PBD Podcast - Trump Declares Israel & Iran ‘COMPLETE CEASEFIRE’ After Qatar & Bahrain Strikes | PBD Podcast | 607

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana and Adam Sosnick react to President Trump’s surprise announcement of a “complete and total ceasefire” between Israel and Iran, how Trump pulled i...t off, and the global implications moving forward. They also analyze reactions from world leaders, Iran’s next move, and whether the ceasefire will hold—or explode. Plus, what this means for oil markets, U.S. elections, and peace in the Middle East.----- 🇺🇸 VT USA COLLECTION - https://bit.ly/4lekYIy🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so pleased that you taste sweet victory You know this life meant for me Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright My handshake is better than anything I ever saw It's right here You are a 101?
Starting point is 00:00:18 My son's right there I think I've ever said this before Alright, I think it's fair to say tensions are very high. President Trump, before we can get started, I want to play this clip for you, Rob, if you're ready. Here's what the president just said a few hours ago when being asked about ceasefire with Iran and Israel. Watch this here. Go for it, Rob. Q The Israeli press says Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. Do you believe that Iran is still committed to the peace? The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Do you believe that Iran is still committed to the peace? The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. Do you believe that Iran is still committed to the peace? The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. Do you believe that Iran is still committed to the peace? The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement.
Starting point is 00:00:53 The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement.
Starting point is 00:01:01 The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says that Iran violated the peace agreement and the ceasefire agreement. The President Trump says we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this morning because the one rocket that
Starting point is 00:01:19 didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land. I'm not happy about that. I didn't want the mandatory. I just wanted seven seconds. It's okay. he's gonna get to it in a minute. I just wanted that one clip at the end. We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Do you understand that? Oh my God. Pause, okay. So that's what's going on there, okay? Tensions are extremely high to the point where, can we check when is the last time a president on a national scale dropped the F-bomb, if you chat GBT right now, when is the last time a president dropped the F-bomb on TV? Not like he got caught doing it.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I'm talking like he knew he was doing it, he knew this was going to get reported on and he did say it flat out. I don't know if I've seen this many, many times. Maybe it's happened. Who knows? Maybe. The last president who dropped the F-bomb was Joe Biden in 2021 with a hot mic. A hot mic.
Starting point is 00:02:12 No, not a hot mic. I'm not asking a hot mic. Oh, Richard Nixon was caught again. Not a hot mic. Off his tapes. I think he's the first one. He's the first to say it live on camera, knowing what's going on. Yep.
Starting point is 00:02:22 First time since 1776 a president dropped the F-bomb. Intentionally knowing what's going on. First time since 1776, the president dropped the F-bomb. Intentionally knowing what's going on. That should tell you where the tensions are right now around the world. We got a lot of things to cover, guys, here on the story. Of course, the Iran-Israel bunch of clips to show with that. The B-2 flights, how it happened, what happened, the conversations, how they threw them off, the regime change tweet that came out from the president, Truth Social was down for an hour and a half after he put out the, what do you want to call it, Truth Social tweet
Starting point is 00:02:51 that there's a ceasefire. The website was down for an hour and a half because of the amount of traffic that was going to the website. That tells you how many people are trying to follow this to see if this is going to turn into anything bigger than it actually is. Iran launches missiles at U.S. military base in Qatar, but doing so, they warn them. They say, hey, we just want to let you know we're about to do this. But the Iranian leaders come out and they say, look, no matter what happens here, we
Starting point is 00:03:13 are still seeking to enrich uranium. We are not slowing down. We are still seeking to enrich uranium as we're going through the process. So it's not like Iran is sitting there saying, okay, we're going to play friendly, we're not going to do anything So it's not like Iran is sitting there saying, okay, we're gonna play friendly, we're not gonna do anything. It's not like Israel is listening. Yesterday when the president put the ceasefire, responded back saying, who's gonna listen to this?
Starting point is 00:03:31 Did Ukraine and Russia listen to a ceasefire? You think Iran's gonna listen? You think Israel's gonna listen? They're not gonna listen to this, but if it does happen, this is a Nobel Peace Prize. We'll talk about that. And then US calls on China to prevent Iran from closing Strait of Hormuz
Starting point is 00:03:44 and disrupting global oil flows. That's a problem for a lot of people, folks. Rubio said Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz would be massive escalation. Iranian government poised to shut Strait of Hormuz, closing off 20% of global oil and gas. This is the same exact reason why I was so vocal and concerned about what was going to happen with Panama Canal. That is a deal we needed to close because long term,
Starting point is 00:04:09 no one's thinking about the Panama Canal right now because the real enemy of ours, the number one enemy of ours is not necessarily Iran or you know Russia or any of these guys. It's China and China has control right now of Panama Canal. Long term protection for us, for you to get your food, your supplies, the things that we need day to day to live our lives. We're going to need Panama Canal. But this Hormuz is, some say important for other reasons that could lead into war. So that's a conversation we'll have as well. World's reaction to U.S. attacks on Iran in the nuclear side.
Starting point is 00:04:40 There's a mayoral race going on right now, Rob. I think it's in New York, it's today if I'm not mistaken, right? It is today. We will cover that. Putin says U.S. strikes on Iran are pushing the world to very dangerous lines. U.S. has Trump's big, beautiful bill get slimmed down in Senate. Wall Street Journal story. Adam's got some thoughts on that. U.S. Army appoints Palantir meta-open AI execs as lieutenant colonels. A little bit strange, but that's the direction I think they may be wanting to go. MAGA Madman blames Tim Walz for his murderous rampage. That story itself doesn't make any sense on what's going on.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Vinny's got some stuff he wants to say about that. Armenian Prime Minister Pashinyan meets Erdogan in Turkey on historical visit. I believe this is the first time that's ever happened. These are not two people that need to be getting along, and now they are getting along, at least having a meeting, which is a good start to have. The Iranian Reza Pahlavi comes out demanding Khomeini to pump the brakes and, hey, I'm willing to forgive you. And I want you to watch this for yourself and see if that sounds � I have an idea
Starting point is 00:05:47 on what I think Iran needs to be looking at this moving forward, if there's an opportunity for regime change, which is what 81% of Iranians would like to see happen in Iran. And I'll show you some of the data that will cover that as well. Two CNN executives both struggling network as anxiety soars over cost cutting after spin-off. Metta tries to buy this company. You ready for this? Ilya Suskevich, 32 billion dollar AI startup, but he wasn't willing to sell, but is now planning to hire its CEO, Metta.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Tom's got a lot of thoughts on that. More than a thousand Americans per day earn millionaire status in 2024. Federal Reserve split starts to split on when to begin cutting U.S. interest rates. Wait till you hear what Tom just shared with us this morning in breakfast that he thinks Scott Besson is suggesting that is absolutely insane and I freaking love the idea. You have to hear what Tom has to say about that. And then, new real estate math, half a million more sellers than buyers, according to Wall Street Journal. We got a few other stories on the addendum that just happened last 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Trump says he expects his Iran fire to last forever. The ceasefire, he believes it can last forever. Mamdani shoots up in a New York City polymarket after surging ahead of Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo, in poll. Supreme Court allows Trump to restart swift deportations of migrants away from their home. Trump slams Russia's Medvedev for claiming countries will give Iran Ukrainian warheads and there's a few other things that we'll cover.
Starting point is 00:07:26 145 people were pricked with syringes at France's music festival. What a weird situation there. 145, that's a Rolling Stones story that's coming out. So with all that said and done, there's a lot of things that we have to cover here today with you, but I've got some good news I want to share with you guys for today when it comes onto merch, especially with all the timing that we have going on. Look, if you ever wonder why we don't do sponsorships, because our own companies are putting us in a position with the customers.
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Starting point is 00:08:11 take money from customers who are buying stuff from you, the loyalty then becomes to them to stay honest to them. That is what our goal is long-term. Eventually we will bring some partnerships in based on criteria that we're creating with them, but until then, we're loving what's happening right now with the podcast, the media company, everything that we're doing. So today, we have some limited merch that just came in today. And talk about the timing of it.
Starting point is 00:08:34 We've been waiting for this for four months. We have these new USA flags that literally just came in. We have the black one that came in here, USA hat. On the back it says Future Looks Bright. We have the other USA one with the stars that are on it with Future Looks Bright on the side and on the back it says Vitaiment. This one is sick for 4th of July. This is the kind of hat you would want to sport on 4th of July. I like the black one and I like this one here.
Starting point is 00:08:59 This one's not going to last a long time. This is black and gold. USA is gold right here. Look at this. USA is gold right here. Limit it? Limited? Look at this. USA is gold right there and it's numbered. Oh snap. This is limited edition out of $250 with the American flag on the side, Valuetainment logo on the side and on the back it says Future Looks Bright. It's out of $250. You know what
Starting point is 00:09:17 happens with these numbered ones? They don't last a long time. I think the last one lasted two hours and 45 minutes. They go in no time. If you like the limited supply stuff that we have, some people buy them and put them on eBay and they flip them, we can't stop them from doing that. So if you don't buy them, you can only get these on eBay. But those of you that love our limited supply material that we have, go buy this. They have a shirt that goes with it as well, Rob. If you can go on the shirt one that we have right there, the gold shirt. Can you click on it real quick so we can zoom in?
Starting point is 00:09:43 Look at that. USA Golden. And on the on it real quick so we can zoom in? Look at that. USA golden. And on the back it says future looks bright. And then go to the hat as well so we can see some of the pictures of the hat, Rob. Do we have a video on this or no? I don't think we have a video on it. Maybe we do, maybe we don't. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:09:56 These are all numbered. Keep going, keep going, keep going. And Rob, look at that stitching, the glitter and everything. This is awesome. Anyways, go to vtmerch.com to place your order. Is that a new shirt as well for 4th of July? This is a new shirt that's coming out. I don't know if we have that on the website or not, but I'm sure when we do, we'll market
Starting point is 00:10:11 that as well. All right. Go to vtmerch.com, place your order. Let's get right into it. Okay. So, a few things here. Last time we did podcast was what? Saturday, we did podcast, emergency podcast, and you have Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:10:27 So right afterwards, the President comes out and says that a discussion about regime change, I don't know if you saw this, Rob, if you have the clip, he starts talking about regime change. There's nothing wrong with regime change. Trump floats Iran's regime change even as the true impact of U.S. strikes is far from clear. Here's what he says. Let me read this to you. And then, Rob, if you can pull up the clip from Reza Pahlavi when he comes out and posts
Starting point is 00:10:58 a video about what he wants to be doing, this is it. It's not politically correct to use the term regime change, but if the current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again, why wouldn't there be a regime change? Mega. Make Iran great again. It doesn't sound as good as MAGA. I'm willing to bet sometimes if you say, YouTube may even flag and give you a strike because it sounds like a different word. So it's MS Mom, IS India, GA, make Iran great again.
Starting point is 00:11:30 While these talks were happening, so now everybody fears. Everyone's saying, oh my God, what's going to be happening? So on one end, Khomeini is sitting there saying, all of a sudden, if I'm older, if I don't know what to do, he puts out a tweet, Rob, if you can go to Twitter if you don't mind, I know I directed you this way, but if you can go to Twitter, go to my Twitter account if you could. There's a tweet that he puts up, go back one if you could, right there. So he tweets out and says, those who know the Iranian people, zooming a little bit specifically on his tweet, zooming a little bit on that one, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Those who know the Iranian people and their history know that the Iranian nation isn't a nation that surrenders. So he's trying to inspire 17.2 million views, exciting stuff, oh my God, we're not going to back them from nobody. And then if you go back one, then, there you go. And then I repeat his tweet and I say, those who know the Iranian people and their history, know that you robbed $95 billion from the people, their network, family network, if you can go validate this in a minute, we will, mass executed 5,000 prisoners in 1988, tortured
Starting point is 00:12:36 whistleblowers, therefore over 81% of Iranians reject your regime. Now a lot of people on the bottom put GROK and say, is this true? So Rob, if you can go down on the bottom on the comment section, just click on the tweet and go on the comment section. Somebody that says, GROK, is this true? Now go on the first one. Okay, go on the first one. GROK will respond.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Can you provide comment? Can you provide comment? So this is not a guy that's supportive of what I'm doing, right? He doesn't like the fact that I'm in business. That indicates 81% of Iranians in Iran reject the regime. The 81% figure likely comes from a 2021 Gammons survey where 81% of 158,000 respondents in Iran rejected the Islamic Republic. Okay?
Starting point is 00:13:21 When you're hearing that. So now Rob, if you can go back, do me a favor. Copy paste that. So that's a yes. That's a yes. Copy paste. Can you go back to my tweet, Rob? No, the one that I put.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Copy paste that and go and put that in Chad GBT if you could. Just go put that in Chad GBT. Is this true? Okay. And type in, is this true? Is this true? Okay. Put that in there.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And let's see what it says here. Statement, mass executions, 1988, true. After a fatwa by Ayatollah Khomeini in 1988, Iranian authorities executed between 2,800 to 5,000 political prisoners, mostly members of the leftist or opposition group, without due legal process. Okay, let's see if the $95 billion is correct. Can you go a little bit lower to see if the $95 billion? The $95 billion figure is estimated, total assets controlled by the Supreme Leader, Network
Starting point is 00:14:14 Sattat, amassed by the family, while many view this misappropriation. This is an article by Reuters, Reuters that said this, and in Chad's GBT it says 81%. So while this is going on, Khomeini comes out and he says, well, we've got to figure out a way for us to have a solution. So what does he do? He's already trying to name his successor. Rob, I don't know if you have that clip for the successor. It's on page 8.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Iran's supreme leader reportedly names potential successors in the event that he dies. Is this the one, Rob? Yes, it's a news clip talking about some of the potential successors in the event that he dies. Is this the one, Rob? Yes, this is a news clip talking about some of the potential successors. Go for it. Play this clip. Iranian leadership is swiftly making preparations for a wide range of outcomes. This comes as US President Donald Trump announced that the country's military carried out attacks on three Iranian nuclear sites.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Reports suggest Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has instructed instructed his nation's assembly of experts, the clerical body responsible for appointing the supreme leader. How long does this video run? Two minutes. Oh, stop it, Rob. We can pause it right there. One of the guys he is talking about is his own son. So if you can go online and type in Khamenei's son, successor.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Khamenei's son, successor. If you type that, you'll see now they want to keep it within the family nepotism, which it's nothing that they don't do in other countries. I'm not going to sit there and say they're the only ones that are doing it, but he's talking about possibly his own son replacing him. Now right there, Chamelei picks possible successor mid-war, son, he names three people, zoom in a little bit, son, Majeddwan not among them. Go a little bit lower Rob if you could.
Starting point is 00:15:47 One of the names that was coming up, Zaman al-Rehman, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Khmer, Zaman al-Rehman, Zaman al-Rehman, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Khmer, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Zaman al-Mujtah, Reza Palavi comes out and puts out this video. If you have Reza Palavi's video, here's what he puts out because this is what 7% of
Starting point is 00:16:08 Iranians would like to see him go back to Iran. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob. Reza Palavi says, �I am establishing a formal channel for military, security, and police personnel to reach out directly to me, my team, and our expanding operation. This is a secure platform to efficiently manage the growing volume of inbound... Which speech is this Rob? This is where he calls for the Ayatollah to step down. ...and seeking to join our movement.
Starting point is 00:16:41 For those patriotic members of our armed forces, the time is now to join the nation. If you do, I will make sure your service to Iran is not forgotten and is celebrated. This is not the one, Rob. There's another one where he just straight up gets up there and says can we if you are willing to step up and step down now there's a Me you just have to go to his chair going after How many because you know what that's basically saying hey, I'm gonna open up a channel all you anybody that wants to get away from How many any kernels any anybody in the military whatever? I'm gonna open up a channel, come to me,
Starting point is 00:17:25 which is kind of like dangerous, because who knows who the hell is gonna be coming over there to maybe even sabotage him, which even that statement alone sounded like, you know, somebody else, it sounded very robotic. I thought Fox had a 45 second clip. It's a 45 second clip, I'll find it. Tom, you keep going.
Starting point is 00:17:42 So your thoughts on this, I'm gonna find this clip and send it to Rob,'ll find it. Tom, you keep going. So your thoughts on this, I'm gonna find this clip and send it to Rob. Go for it. Tom. Well, what I think is this is not definitive, right? You're coming out and saying, I think it's time for you to step down. I think it's time for you to step down. It's like my dad saying,
Starting point is 00:17:55 I think it's time for you to clean your room. That's weak. It should be a full-throated response and it says, you have outlasted your evil. You've been able to be here this long. You should be out of here. The people of Iran, the leader, and that leader is me and I'm going to do ABC. It's like Make America Great Again.
Starting point is 00:18:16 They said, what do you mean Make America Great Again? Jobs down here, inflation comes down, jobs come back, economic prosperity goes up. It was very fast. Where is he? You know what I mean, Pat? comes down, jobs come back, economic prosperity goes up. It was very fast. Where is he? You know what I mean, Pat? Normally leaders that, like Trump that came back, have like one, two, three, or one, two. This is what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Here's what he said. And he kind of meanders a little bit on me. Here's what he said. I just want you to watch this and the main thing when you see something like this is, does Khomeini take this seriously? Do Iranians take this seriously? Do Iranians take this seriously? Does the world take this seriously? Go ahead and play this clip Rob. At Desjardins Insurance, we know that when you own a law firm, your bar for everything
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Starting point is 00:19:46 responsive. So today I have a direct message for Ali Khamenei. Step down and if you do you will receive a fair trial and due process of law, which is more than you have ever given any Iranian. Okay. Can I get, Yeah. Me coming from an outback, Oh, my mic just, I don't believe.
Starting point is 00:20:15 We hear you. You understand? I don't believe, like, first of all, if you're speaking to somebody like that, I just directly say like you've planned it. He doesn't look like he even prepared prepared and I don't believe that threat. I don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Yeah, so when you hear that, you see that. Adam, what are your thoughts when you're seeing what's going on right now with Iran, you know, regime change, the president said there's a possibility of regime change. A lot of people are saying, well, this was all planned. They knew this was going to happen. This is exactly what they wanted to do. It's not like it's a picture of a perfect playbook. First you do this, then you do that, then you deflect, then it's regime change.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Then you place someone there who is your candidate to place in Iran to bring back, etc., etc. on you. You might make the second calling of the puppet and all this other stuff. So Rob, I'm going to send you a clip of what Rudy Giuliani said about Reza Pallavi that I want to respond to that as well. But Adam, your thoughts on this before I share some of my thoughts. So everyone's on the internet talking, everyone's talking about what's going on. Let's start with first principles.
Starting point is 00:21:15 What is the most logical explanation of what is happening? First and foremost, I would argue that more than anything, the Iranian people want to be free. So you just gave a stat that, what, 81 percent of people want to do away with the Ayatollah? That might be incredibly low. How many protesters do you see around the world calling for the death of the Iranian regime? Everyone says online, this war is not against the people of Iran, it's against
Starting point is 00:21:45 the IRGC. How many times have you heard those acronyms? In my opinion, this is going to be the second and the final Ayatollah to run Iran. This gentleman is 86 years old, 86 years young. He's almost as old as Tom, whose birthday it is. Joking, Tom. But I don't know how much longer he's gonna be with us. There's no indication that if and when a new supreme leader is called to the catapult, that the Iranian people will accept it. In my opinion, this is the last and final Ayatollah to run Iran. Yeah, they're very interesting to say something like that. Here's what Rudy In my opinion, this is the last and final Ayatollah to run Iran. Yeah, very interesting to say something like that.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Here's what Rudy Giuliani said. Rudy Giuliani yesterday comes out and says the following. Now here's the thing. If you think about it, when is the last time you heard us even say anything about Giuliani? It's been very quiet. It's not been something that we've talked about. It's not been something that, you know, he's not been on the radar for too long. Rob, if you're on his ex, is this the one?
Starting point is 00:22:50 Okay, perfect. Reza Palavi is the son of Dasha who was a brutal, hated dictator. He offers nothing but a return to his father's corrupt dictatorship. For decades to savag, his father's secret police persecuted, tortured and murdered Iranians. Rob, can you go on his ex, please? Exactly what he's saying there, because I want to see the commentary of what people are saying under Rudy Giuliani.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Here's the reality of it. People sit there on the left, right and center are critical of Reza Pallavi's father, of what he did. And you just go to the comments section right there, Rob. I'd like to see what some of the people are saying to this tweet here. critical of Reza Pala, of his father, of what he did. Just go to the comments section right there, Rob. I'd like to see what some of the people are saying to this tweet here. And yet, despite all that, we're still infinitely better than the current regime. True.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Keep going lower. I don't know if this will come, but I've never heard him disavow Savak, which makes me suspicious. Why would we even be commenting on this? The Iranian people should pick who is best to lead them and hopefully they make the right choice. Interesting take, but then who? When the regime falls, it is best replaced with a preferable leader instead of doing
Starting point is 00:23:53 a government project like this in Iraq. He was not hated. Please just stop. You go down to the comments section, a lot of people don't agree with them. The father, King Reza Pahlavi, changed the entire thing in Iran. It was a completely different situation than what he did in Iran. Having said that, this is the one thing I want everybody to be thinking about. If we are talking about a regime change in Iran, let's just say you do want to have a
Starting point is 00:24:16 regime change in Iran. What would work? What would be the right way to go about this? I could come out with a 20-point plan on what we could do to change Iran in a heartbeat, it wouldn't be a challenge. I think the way to look at it, and if the Iranian people are watching this, is the following. Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, the son of Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, is a kind man, is a nice man, is a smart man.
Starting point is 00:24:42 He could be a historian because he knows the history very well. He speaks English, he speaks Farsi fluently, French fluently. He can do an interview in French and fluently have a conversation with anybody that wants to talk to him in French. He has that element in place. However, what the biggest challenge I'm getting hit up left and right from Iranian influentials around the world, and this is what they're asking me. Pat, this is another opportunity. Isn't this great?
Starting point is 00:25:07 It looks like he's going to come back and he's going to do this and he's going to do that. Here's the biggest problem that Iranians have, and you're not going to like me saying this, you know, I'm talking straight to all the Iranian people around the world, that love and support Reza Pallavi as much as I love him and his family and what they did for Iran. This is not a number one person. He's not. It's the same thing I said about DeSantis.
Starting point is 00:25:32 DeSantis is very good for his state. He's a phenomenal governor. We proudly live in Florida. But he's not a Trump. There's Trump, then there's DeSantis. DeSantis later on could develop into something like that, but we need a Trump. Reza Palavi has had 46 years to do something for Iran to go back to being free. Hasn't happened.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Forty-six years. Every five to ten years, Iranians have had a chance to topple the current regime. Hasn't happened. Every five to ten years you've had an opportunity. Hasn't happened. You can't teach tough leadership. If it was all about knowing the history, having the right last name, if it was all about speaking different languages, every day a new professor would be the leader of some kind of a country.
Starting point is 00:26:15 That's not how this works. Tough leadership requires for somebody, when you look at the camera and you deliver a message, for somebody to believe them. People believe Reagan. People believe when Putin speaks. People believe when Trump speaks. People believe when certain leaders speak. You believe them when they speak. There's a certain level of conviction that you want to do.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Your eyes don't lie. The way Iran ought to look at this moving forward is in the following way. Iran needs to cut everything up and be a startup. Look at it as a startup. Bring in new founding fathers who help write a new constitution that Iran has built on. That's what the mindset needs to be. And those individuals, I think he needs to be one of the founding fathers of the new movement of Iran.
Starting point is 00:26:59 That could be Benjamin Rush. If you know the history of Iran, the history of the U.S. founding fathers, Benjamin Rush, a lot of people would say was the man when it came down to becoming one of the founding fathers. The man was brilliant. He knew the history. He had such a strong background. He played a role.
Starting point is 00:27:14 He may have been the smartest guy in the room. A lot of people could have said, never became a president, but you go ask the founding fathers what role he played. He played a very important role. Who became the president? George Washington became the president. What other founding fathers did become president? Tom, if I'm not mistaken, the first three were all founding fathers, right? Thomas Jefferson's number three. I think Adams is two. Washington is one, right? And you start going, you're like,
Starting point is 00:27:37 okay, there's that history there. If Iran's going to go through this, you need brains for economy. You need brains for military. You need brains for history. You need brains for military. You need brains for history. You need brains for law. You need brains on how to write a constitution. You need brains for how to put certain law and order in place where things change. You need brains on how to fix the educational system. You need all of those things to go out there. We need somebody at the top as a leader to make it happen. I know the Iranian people don't want to hear this, and they keep saying things like
Starting point is 00:28:03 this. They'll say the following, Vinny. They'll say stuff like, what's the alternative? What's the alternative? Go find them. Wake them up. Bring somebody from Iran. Wake them up. Bring someone that you support.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Whatever the values and principles are. Maybe it's somebody, when Khomeini was living in France, they went and brought Khomeini from France to Iran. Khomeini wasn't living in Iran. Khomeini wasn't in France for 15 years. They brought him back and they said, we think you're the guy that needs to be the leader here, but there needs to be somebody that can close the deal. Let me explain what I mean by closing the deal.
Starting point is 00:28:35 President Trump, 2024. How many people you think could have handled what they did to him in 2023, E. Jean Carroll, all the, your property is now worth $250 million, it's an $80 million property in Mar-a-Lago that was sold for $20 million like 60 years ago. You know, no, give or take, whatever the timeline is. He had to go through that. Every day he's at court, they're embarrassing him. Letitia James, the other lady that, you know, when they asked the question, did you have
Starting point is 00:29:04 sexual affairs with this woman and what does he say? Let me think about it. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. No. Do you remember that? Every day they're trying to mock him. Who do you think could have closed the deal outside of him?
Starting point is 00:29:16 Who else? You think Reza Pallavi is going to be able to close the deal? Like close the deal. Sweet man, smart man, needs to be part of the transition, needs to be one of the founding fathers, if Iran does go through the next thing. But if he is who he claims he is, he needs to be in a room with 50 other strong influencers to be able to make this happen collectively. That needs to take place.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Some of the people that have connections to many different countries, many different industries, that leadership, that needs to happen. If it doesn't happen, every 10 years you're going to be like, oh, we're making a comeback. Oh, we're making a comeback. Oh, he's 84 years old, it's too late. Now what? Now Khomeini's and Khomeini's have all these decades of being able to control Iran into whatever it is today.
Starting point is 00:29:58 But to me, the biggest thing Iran needs right now is a closer. I'm not convinced he's a closer to close the deal. Stop being so romantic about your candidates. There is these fantasies people have with their candidates. Oh my God, it's going to be so great. RFK, romanticize, because we're going to have another John F. Kennedy. No, but he played a very important role with his job that he has under Trump right now. So I think there's a very important role he plays.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I'm not convinced he's the guy that's going to be closing the deal. So for all the Iranian people that are hoping for regime change, hey, you don't have a lot of time. The window is going to close like this. When do you think there's going to be another opportunity like this? I am 46 years old. I've been outside of Iran since 1989. That's how many years?
Starting point is 00:30:43 36 years. This is the closest Iran's ever gotten since 1989 for regime change. Let me say this again Iranian people, since 1989 when we left Germany, when we left Iran, went to Germany at a refugee camp and we came here November 20, 1990. From that day till today there's never been a time more closer than today for Iranian people who want a regime change. They want the Ruwa Allah Khamenei and others to leave. You've never, ever been closer than you are today.
Starting point is 00:31:14 What you do with it is truly on you. I would love for the people to choose somebody like you're doing all this stuff, but the reality of it is you need a closer. Someone that's going to close a deal. I'm not convinced RP is a closer. Tom, thoughts? I think you're exactly right. In the United States, we romanticize this.
Starting point is 00:31:31 There were people, you know, I used to go to RNC meetings and go, you know, check in on things and then talk to people that had influence, but I always used to select individual leaders that I was going to support and look at it from that way. And everybody was talking themselves into believing Jeb Bush is a guy. Here we are, another Jeb Bush. Oh look, he's got diversity in his family. Look at his wife, look at everything like this. And it was like, wait a minute, this guy's not inspiring, number one.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And number two, what's his plan? What does he passionately want to do? There was nothing there. But man, the Republican Party, this would be a layup. We have all the support of everybody else. How much $140 million they want? $140 million. That's how many people got into the room together and had brown water and talked themselves into believing that Jeb was their guy. This happens all the time in government where the successor is not the guy. And I just think right now they're just, they're just, he's trying to force a little bit.
Starting point is 00:32:29 He doesn't feel like he's at the microphone with his own passion and desire. It feels like he's under a kind of obligation and duty. And if you're just there under obligation and duty, that is not what it's going to take in the middle of what's going on on the world stage. You've got an opportunity. They used to criticize the United States for a thing that they said, oh, you're just out there nation building, but it's really the CIA, the United Fruit Company, terracing around Central America, overthrowing perfectly legitimate democratic governments.
Starting point is 00:32:59 But there was other people that talked about nation building. Nation building was about enabling, enabling was supporting nation building. So this is an opportunity for Iran to come back in a democratic way. Not that there's not words there, not that there's not things going on there. This is an opportunity for Iran to come back. And just just something to go for. Tommy said something yesterday that was very important. You ever seen a movie, Alexander the Great with Angelina, is Angelina Jolie in that movie?
Starting point is 00:33:27 Who's the mother? Who, no. Colin Farrell's in it? Colin Farrell, but who's the mother of Angelina Jolie? Who's the mother of Angelina Jolie? In that movie, Alexander Raab. Is it, is it? Yeah, Angelina Jolie was the mother of Alexander the Great.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I was right. So, so there is this fantasy with a son to outdo, like, you know, yeah, but in this case, Angelina Jo, the mother, Olympias, you know, had a fall on out with Alexander's father, right? There was a big fall on out there. So she wanted her son to do what? To outdo the father. Because now she's like, I've divorced your father, I have nothing to do with him. The best revenge would be you with my blood on my side of the family to outdo him.
Starting point is 00:34:07 That's right. Mothers want their sons to do very well and there's an element of mothers that if the father and the son had a feud that I don't believe in, you get your act together, get serious. Mothers want the son to prove a point to the father that the son was better. Not in a bad way. It's in a very natural, loving way, right? But sometimes the son privately is like, Mom, don't give me that pressure. I don't want
Starting point is 00:34:29 this job. Who are the only two athletes you said in baseball that did better than their fathers? Oh, that loved the game and set world-breaking statistics? Ken Griffey Jr. and Barry Bonds. You know what both of them had in common? Love of the game. They love the game. I don't know if there's a love of the game here. Go ahead. And like, I don't, I'm not that versed on all this, but I mean, we've met the guy, we've hung out with the guy with something like this as a leader. You cannot be on the fence. You have to not
Starting point is 00:34:55 only want to do it, Pat, it's, it's a must do it. And I just don't feel that vibe because then you mentioned something about time wise. How long do you think the United States and Israel is gonna give them because if you think about it their Khomeini could easily with Mossad and us and our intelligence he could have been dead a while ago when Trump made that post where he's like hey we know where you are and we could take you out one out they're giving the Iranian people grace to figure this out but the clock is ticking I just don't think my Vincent O'Shaughnessy opinion, that's not the guy. But the Iranian people, they got to step up because Adam, what did you guys say?
Starting point is 00:35:31 81% of the people are pro the regime change, but 20% doesn't. That's of 92 million. That's almost 20 million. That's 18.4 million people are still like, no, this guy, this Khomeini guy is who we want. But it has to happen like, they got to step up. So, while this is going on, the president comes out and says he's brokered a deal of ceasefire. Rob, if you can go to the tweet.
Starting point is 00:35:55 So, he puts out a tweet saying, we have brokered a ceasefire. Congratulations to everyone. It has been fully agreed by and between Iran and Israel, and there will be a complete and total ceasefire in approximately six hours from now when Israel and Iran have wound down and completed their in progress final missions for 12 hours, at which point the war will be considered ended. Officially Iran will start the ceasefire and upon the 12th hour Israel will start the ceasefire and upon the 24th hour an official end to the twenty-fourth war, twelve day war will be saluted by the
Starting point is 00:36:29 world during which ceasefire the other side, he writes some wrong tweets by the way, remain peaceful and respectful, on the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will, I would like to congratulate both countries, Iran and Israel, on having the stamina, courage and intelligence to end what should be called the 12-day war. This is a war that would have gone on for years and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn't and never will. God bless Israel. I don't think there's a period.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Oh, there is. There's an exclamation. God bless Israel. God bless Iran. God bless the Middle East and God bless the United States of America and God bless the Middle East, and God bless the United States of America, and God bless the world. Rob, can you go to my Twitter account? So I retweet this and this is what I put up there. I put up right at the top of it, I say, which side actually believes the other side will
Starting point is 00:37:18 honor the ceasefire? Did Ukraine or Russia ever stick to theirs? No. If both Iran and Israel fully honor this deal, Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. But the key word is what? If. So that's that. Then all of a sudden what do we hear?
Starting point is 00:37:32 Bombing from both sides. Then what happens, Rob, if you go up, this is the President's most recent tweet with the video that comes out. Just go to the short. This is a conversation that's being had about neither side keeping the commitment that President Trump, for the first time in the history of America, a president intentionally, while on live TV, not it was caught, not a hot mic, drops an F-bomb. It happened today. Imagine how pissed off a president has to be to drop an F-bomb, but that's exactly what the president did today. Go for it, Rob. Whether it's a family member, friend, or furry companion joining
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Starting point is 00:40:11 talking about ending this war he's talking about America's involvement in this war in his tweet it was very interesting he said I brokered a deal between Israel and Iran does anybody out there believe that Iran wants to stop globalizing the intifada? At the same time, does anybody believe that Bibi Netanyahu, at this point, when Iran is on the brink of disaster, at the brink of falling apart, wants to take his foot off their throat? I don't even know what the terms of this peace agreement were, but if I'm a betting man, I don't think this holds major respect to Trump for eliminating the nuclear sites.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I just don't know if this peace agreement is going to last 12 more hours. Well, Pat, can I say one thing though? For Trump to go out there on the White House lawn before 8 a.m. and say that these two, Iran and Israel, don't know what the F they're doing. He's trying to make that peace, he's trying to make it stop. And the analogy is, Iran and Israel, after he's talked about this, he tweeted it, are like two kids where you say, all right guys, as of noon, lunchtime, no more fighting. But at 11.59, you both start punching each other in the face as much as you can because you know
Starting point is 00:41:26 You have a little bit window. It's childish. Okay, it's childish when you have a freaking deal Both of them need to stop both people need to stop Israel's that fault and Iran's that fault Especially when the guy's trying to end it when he's trying to end it So they're both at fault and I don't mean you make a good point. They both obviously want, you know, to keep it going. That's what you do. One bombs one. The other one fights back. But there are reports as well, by the way, I looked it up like there's actually no real public evidence that the U.S.
Starting point is 00:41:55 strike like actually did the damage, Tom, on these all the time. How much time, how much money was the operation and all the bombs that were dropped? Well, they say it was two billion dollars of transport and bombs, something like that. Yeah, and there were satellite image of days before of because I mean, we warned that we gave him a heads up a bunch of trucks and a bunch of convoys showing up doing whatever grabbing whatever and then leaving and that these Buster Bunkers didn't even actually hit what they were supposed to hit. So that's another.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Can I add one more thing? And then, Pat, I want to ask you a question. You can tell a lot about a regime or leadership, not by the way they treat other countries, but by the way that they treat their own people and the approval ratings within their own country. Every country has war with another country, Russia and Ukraine, Pakistan, India, China, Japan. Every country's gonna have enemies. Every country's gonna have war.
Starting point is 00:42:49 But how do you treat your own people? I would argue that the Israeli people have never been so happy with Bibi Netanyahu than the day that he took out these nuclear threats from Iran, especially when America got involved. Now, Bibi Netanyahu, don't forget this. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. His approval ratings, which you can actually track,
Starting point is 00:43:13 are somewhere in the 30 to 40%. In the last week, they've skyrocketed like a missile out of Gaza into the 70, 80%. That's how excited the people of Israel are with what Netanyahu is doing. At the same time, we just talked about on the low end, the people of Iran view the Ayatollah
Starting point is 00:43:33 with 80 percent dislike and disdain. So if there's anybody in Israel advocating to step on Iran's throat, it's the people of Israel. At the same throat, it's the people of Israel. At the same time, it's the people of Iran also cheering on Bibi Netanyahu, also cheering on the IDF to bring down the IRGC. There's a big difference between how the people domestically view their leaders and it ain't close. Yeah, and by the way, while you're saying there, there's a number comes out, story comes
Starting point is 00:44:08 out yesterday about Tel Aviv shares hit record highs after US strikes Iran nuclear sites. If you go look at the stock market in Israel, it's on fire on what it's doing. There's also stories about, Adam, what you just said right there about Iranians on the streets with American flags. Rob, I don't know if you have this video or not, there's video of Iranian protesters waving down with the USA flags on streets of Tehran as President joins in. Do you have that clip, Rob? It's on page 7.
Starting point is 00:44:39 There's a clip about this. Let me read the story while Rob pulls this up. There you go. Iranians waving American flags with legitimate slogans that have taken to the streets. There's multiple of them that you can find. So a lot of Iranians that want this thing to be taking place, the regime change to be taking place. But I'll say this to you, Adam, on this whole ceasefire, between the two.
Starting point is 00:45:00 In this case, Iran and Israel, who is more to blame for not following the ceasefire? If you ask me, my opinion, it's Israel. Why? We're not doing a favor for Iran. You came asking President. President is in a tough situation. He knows the political party that got him elected, there's an element of it that you can call
Starting point is 00:45:25 a woke right and all this stuff that a lot of these folks now are in the same room agreeing with Ilhan Omar. They're now in the same room agreeing with people that � what was that Rob? Okay, no, no, you can pause it. There's these people that are agreeing with those folks, but they're kind of like, how did I end up in a room like this where I'm agreeing with these people? I would have never agreed with these types of people, right? But in this case, with all the pressures being, Netanyahu makes the call because he knows
Starting point is 00:45:54 he can't get the job done and they know if they want to do anything with those three nuclear sites, you need U.S.'s help. The president agrees to do it knowing there's going to be a lot of backlash, but he focuses on signal and says, �Okay, Israel, you're a bigger ally to us than Iran.� Then they do it, and then you do this, and you don't listen to the ceasefire? I mean, I don't blame him for losing his shit and straight up calling him out on what they're doing. I think there's even another clip here.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Who is he calling this out in this video, Rob? I believe he's calling out CNN in this clip. Yeah, this is a different clip on the same exact setting when he's having an interview where he drops the F-bomb. This is him talking to CNN. Go for it. That place is demolished. The B-2 pilots did their job.
Starting point is 00:46:36 They did it better than anybody could even imagine. They hit late in the evening. It was dark with no moon, and they hit that target with every one of those things. And that place is gone. But when I see CNN all night long, they're trying to say, well, maybe it wasn't really as demolished as we thought. It was demolished.
Starting point is 00:46:56 You take a look at the pinpricks and you see that place is gone. And I will say, I think CNN ought to apologize to the pilots of the B-2s. I think that MSDNC ought to apologize. I think these guys really, these networks and these cable networks are real losers. You really are. You're real losers. The Press. It is real sad that they violated the B-2s.
Starting point is 00:47:22 You're gutless losers. I say that to CNN because I watch it. I have no choice. I got to watch that garbage. It's all garbage. It's all fake news. But I think CNN is a gutless group of people. And the people that run it, nobody even knows it's been sold so many times. But the people that run it ought to be ashamed.
Starting point is 00:47:40 MSDNC, a guy named Brian Roberts, he heads it. He's a disgrace. He's a weak, pathetic disgrace. He was on fire today. Well, he's sick of it because to him, here's the part that he's in, okay? There are people right now that see this as an opportunity to, guy asked me a question this morning, okay? He booked a call, we're having a 15 minute call together on Manect.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I don't know when it is, but he booked a call. And I've been having the weirdest Manects. By the way, for those of you guys that know what's going on with Manect, we're doing our annual contest on Manect where we're going to dinner at Casa de Angel. It's a contest that started from June 1st that goes until July 31st. And there's different categories for contests. I'm going to tell you what this phone call is and what this conversation was about. You have to really hear about it.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Because I think everybody watching this, you have to hear this. So this is the contest we ran to go. You come down to Florida. We take you out to Casa D'Angelo. Afterwards we go. We have dinner together, conversations. I'm going to be there. Tom's going to be there.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Vinny's going to be there. Adam's going to be there. And then we go afterwards to the cigar lounge and we stay until midnight talking about ideas, future, politics. It's the best podcast. It's the best because we all sit there and just talk. Such a great experience when we do this. Phenomenal experience when we do this.
Starting point is 00:48:52 And if you want to find out more about the contest, put the link below, Rob, in the comments section as well in the description. You go to Monek.com, then go to the top and type in Leaders Bulletin. The video is there. Criteria, as you know, can we see where people are at for the competition, where their rankings are by categories. Tomy Robinson. Tomy Robinson is number one at 300, he's complete at 123 minutes.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Dean Mason, good for Dean Mason, Constantine Korbov, third place. So if the contest ended today, it would be those three names that would be coming down to have dinner and go to the cigar lounge. Patricia would be placed and it's Mary, Scott Woolley, John Carlo, John Carlo, got a shout out today. I love John Carlo. I see you. I play Scott Storch, James O'Keefe. And then if you go to middleweight,
Starting point is 00:49:32 let's see where middleweight's at, John Mason's at the top, then it's Larry Broughton, DJ Shipley, DJ Shipley, wow, holy shit, DJ Shipley in ABCL Team 10. James Murphy, former F15 pilot, then you got a few other names there, Amy, Brad Lee's on that list, Terrence Howard's on that list. Go to the heavyweight one, let's see where heavyweight's at.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Sepala's at the top, then it's Daniel, Cap, Michael Mara, few other names, let's see the super heavyweight. Look at the super heavyweight, Vinny is about to break a record, 362 complete him in X. Timothy Ryan, Lindy Lee. I wouldn't even make the contest if it ended today. Holy shit, I would be outside knocking on the door somebody Let me in but we'll show up and buy it
Starting point is 00:50:08 It's myself Tom Adam other people that are on that category and if you go to users Bob Can you go to users because users get to compete as well on where they're at? Look at the for new we got Zack can't see it from there Rob the last time Abraham Zack their look care look Abraham Peretta Tariq Chad, Andy Hillo, and then go to heavyweights to see where the heavyweights are existing. It's the, oh, Dorothy took over. Wow. There's my girl.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Oh wow. Timothy Ryan, Constantine, Eric Branch. Anyways, those are you guys that are not experts. If you're an expert, compete. We're going to have a good time. If you're not an expert, for every 10 Manecks, you ask someone. You ask the question. We will do a raffle and we'll pick up one or two names, so come join us as well.
Starting point is 00:50:50 But you can go to the contest to visit it. And by the way, here's something I wanted to put for you guys today. It's Tom's birthday today. So if you kind of love Tom, it was yesterday. If you kind of love Tom Ellsworth, send him a birthday wish right there on the Mannequin. Wish him a happy birthday. And Vinny is on track for breaking his record. Send him a Manek. And Adam is looking forward to a lot of love from
Starting point is 00:51:12 folks from the Islamic community, Muslim community. If you guys want to befriend him, send him some messages there as well. But this is where I was going. Guy asked me a question. Adam- I love you guys. Yvonne- By the way, when he says that, he sincerely says that. He's not joking with you guys. He actually gets along with everybody. When you're out there with Adam, Adam doesn't have a hard time getting along with people. But here's what I wanted to tell you. Question becomes on my neck.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Taylor DeGrant asked me a question. Who do you listen to? Who do you believe? Where do you go to? Who's right? Who's wrong? What is the real way of who to listen to in a market like this, Vinny? Think about that.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Great question. Adam, who do you listen to? Tom, who does the average person listen to? And for me, it really put me in a position to want to answer the question. This is where I go to. I put all the names across the board because this is how I led when we were building an insurance company. Everybody would call me and bitch about somebody.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Do you know what he just did? Do you know what she just did? Do you know what they did? And it's going, okay, great. Then when there would be a crisis in the company, people would come to my office and they would say, do you know what this person said? Do you know what that person said? Do you know what this person said?
Starting point is 00:52:17 There's a crisis. There's a problem. There's this. There's that. For me it was very simple. It came down to the following. I watched you on your bias. I put everybody on it. That person's bias is this, because they had a fallout with that company.
Starting point is 00:52:30 That person's bias is this, because they got a bad business deal. That person's bias is this, that guy's from Iran. That person's bias, he's from Israel, he's Jewish. That person's bias is this. So I put the biases there. And that person's America first, that person's America only. I put all the biases there. Then I don't try to change your bias. I understand your bias. Why would I try to change your bias? You've lived your life.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Who the hell am I to try to like, when you see people on Twitter, you're wrong. Yeah, people have a bias. Everybody. Trump has a bias. Trump has bias. Netanyahu has bias. Khomeini is biased. Everyone is biased. Hello.
Starting point is 00:53:07 We all are, including you. We think you walk on water. Some of the people that, you know what's the second thing I look at? Track record of being able to reason different issues and being fair. So I look at your bias, set it aside, I don't try to change it. Track record of being able to reason, second, to see who I'm listening to. Three, do you have a track record of being fair? Four, how often have you been right?
Starting point is 00:53:34 That's the process I go through. So today, when you watch the President, imagine how much shit he's hearing and he still says, no, we're attacking, nope, this is what we're doing, nope, that's what I'm going to be doing, nope, and quite frankly, I don't give a shit if you agree or disagree and you threaten to leave the party and tell everybody to impeach and all that. I don't care. This is what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Fortunately and unfortunately, I'll give you both sides. Most people don't have a backbone like that. Most people will break. Trust me. Most people would break under similar circumstances. This man didn't. He led. And he's going around pushing his agenda that he had in place of America first.
Starting point is 00:54:18 And if you have a problem with that, totally get it. You have biases though. For me, when people say, �Why is Patrick so much�, �Do you know the honor of the war from 1941 to 1977?� �Really?� Let me tell you, a guy asked me a question, a Muslim guy asked me a question on my neck. Okay, Rob, I'm going to text this to you, and folks, do me a favor and please go copy paste this and ask this on Grok, ask this on on, what do you call it, what's the other one?
Starting point is 00:54:48 Ask this on GROK. Ask this on ChatGBT. Ask this on every single platform you can to verify it. Rob, I just texted it to you, put it up there, and do me a favor, put it in chat. Don't even put it in chat. Actually, you can put it in chat. Actually you can put it in chat. I want everybody to go copy paste this and go to ChachiBitinGrok and read it for yourself. We're living in Iran, Iran is doing its thing. You can be a Christian, Muslim, Shias, whatever you want to be.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Communists, do whatever you want to be. My mother's family were Communists. They were happily living in Iran. They were Communists. Two day party. Wasn't Iran. Okay? All of these things that was taking place, and then all of a sudden a man named Khomeini
Starting point is 00:55:33 comes back to Iran and things change. Now whatever religion you are, when you type in on chat.gbt or Google, or Grog, who are the top five, ten most influential figures in the Islamic religion? You know you will always find one name in that community that's one of the top ten most influential. His name is Khomeini. Okay? Khomeini comes and takes over.
Starting point is 00:56:00 A lot of people mess up, even yesterday I'm talking to my wife, what's the difference between Khomeini and Khomeini? One letter. One is Khomeini, the other one between Khomeini and Khomeini? One letter. One is Khomeini, the other one is Khomeini. It's like Johnson and Jensen. Why would you do Johnson and Jensen? It's Khomeini Khomeini. And it's a very easy name to pronounce.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Khomeini Khomeini. Like when you pronounce it, you have a sore throat afterwards. That's what happens to many of us Iranians. Our throat is stronger than many of the average Americans. So watch this here. Top influential leaders, Islamists. What do you see on number three? Khomeini.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Let the 1979 Iranian revolution establish first modern Islamic theocracy. Here's a book that he wrote in the 60s. You wonder why so many family people who have kids, who have a hard time, who want that structure to change? I sent this copy paste to Rob. Can I ask, can I read the question to everybody that I sent to you? Go to ChadGBT, this is the question. I want everybody that's watching this, go fact check this.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Did Ayatollah Ruolo Khomeini write a religious legal manual in the 1960s called the Ta'arir al-Wasilah, often offered to in the West as the Little Green Book. Did he say in that book a man can marry a girl younger than nine years old, however he is not permitted to have vaginal intercourse with her until she reaches nine, but other sexual pleasures such as touching with lust, embracing and placing the penis between the thighs are not forbidden." You go put that in there and verify that. Look what it says. Yes, Ayatollah Khomeini did write a religious book this, and what's in it?
Starting point is 00:57:35 It is a manual of Islamic covering topics on personal conduct, rituals and politics, etc., etc. Go a little bit lower to see the controversial quote. The quote that's widely cited passage from the book generally translated, �A man can marry a girl younger than nine years old, however, is not to have vaginal intercourse with her until she reaches age nine, but other sexual pleasures such as touching with lust and race�, this passage does appear in the book. Go a little bit lower Rob, it does appear in the book.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Now, you can go back, go check it, read all of it. Please bring the camera back to me. So for some of you that say, you are a puppet of this, you are a puppet of that, you are a Mossad Zionist, all this stuff that people make the claims that they do. No, no. I am against a man marrying a girl under the age of nine. I am against talking about it's okay to have vaginal intercourse with a kid at nine years old.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I'm against that. And by the way, something tells me you are as well. Something tells me you are as well that's watching this. So for some reason, well that's not, I just told you, he is one of the top five, ten most influential people in the world in Iran. You say something like that? Do you not think the average person that's not even religious, what percentage of people do you know that are not even religious? They're just trying to live a good life.
Starting point is 00:58:54 So forget about it for a second. I don't believe in God, let's just say. I had a problem with God. Imagine one of the faces of that religion just wrote that in a book. Why would you read that book? What would you say? Would you go like, oh, like meditation? Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:05 So I can marry somebody under the age of nine, put the penis under the thighs. Oh, very normal. Let me go to the next chapter. That's weird. No matter what you believe in. You know who says this is weird? Parents, fathers, mothers, siblings. I read this to my sons yesterday.
Starting point is 00:59:24 They're like, what is he talking about? My sister just turned nine. Exactly. Do you realize why the average Iranian is sitting there saying, I just want this religion out of the freaking picture? And I say, but that's not everybody. Doesn't need to be everybody. Most Muslims I've met, I'm good with, but I've met some extremists, let me tell you,
Starting point is 00:59:43 in Iran, in Germany, here, in the military, I've met them many, many different places. The reason why a lot of people want that to change is because Khomeini follows Khomeini's guidelines. And Khomeini was more influential than Khomeini. This is why a lot of Iranians want that to change and a lot of people around the world who are having these people. Right now there's a story that came out that there's 1,500 to 2,000 Iranians that came to the U.S. illegally.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Did you guys see this? Did you see this report, Rob? Tom, did you see this story? There's about 1,500 to 2,000 Iranians that may have crossed the border illegally that made it out here. Guess what? A lot of people are worried. I'll find this link and send it over to you.
Starting point is 01:00:21 A lot of people are worried about what's going on. That's just not the way the average person wants to live their lives. Vinny, your thoughts. Can I say one thing? Yeah, please. You know what the saddest thing is, Tom? That's not shocking. Because where do you think Khomeini got that from, that type of attitude and that type
Starting point is 01:00:37 of mentality, is their prophet, Muhammad. Let's just call it for what it is. He got married to Aisha Okay, when she was six and then they consummated the marriage which it became physical at nine This isn't like he came out of it from nowhere You should see the freaking arguments and the I'm talking about back and forth for days about people going yeah But this was the time this was and I go listen to me There's a difference between by God my Jesus Christ and your God never I don't care what time it is
Starting point is 01:01:08 I don't give a damn what period of time Doing something with a six or a nine year old you're gonna convince me Vincent Oshana that it is right There's no time frame. There's no well everybody was doing it. It's a bullshit Argument, okay, and that's just one side of it, okay? And then there's the extremists. We're killing innocent people for your God, means you're gonna go somewhere with 72 virgins and that's your price for, your reward for martyrdom.
Starting point is 01:01:39 No, no, it's a shitty, shitty argument. By the way, I criticize the other side, and Adam, everybody knows this, I could criticize Israel. I. By the way, I criticize the other side, and Adam, everybody knows this, I could criticize Israel, I could criticize the leadership, but that type of doctrine, that child, and everybody knows this, Pat, remember we talk about the sword that I'll die on. You know we're on that, especially with this. I don't give a shit if it's here, I don't give a shit if it's there, it's wrong. And you cannot convince me that that's good, I don't care what time, and that's the attitude of the leader of this country
Starting point is 01:02:06 That's how he thinks period. I don't agree with it at all. Yeah, so obviously this is a very Adam You look like you want to say something. Yeah. Well, I think Ironically, it's gonna be the one Jewish guy that kind of gives a little sense of nuance here because as much as I agree with What you're saying, I think we just need to understand there's a big difference between being a Muslim and being an Islamist, just like there's a big difference between being a Persian and being a Iranian IRGC advocate, or being a Christian and a televangelist, or being Jewish and a Zionist. But what you're saying makes a lot of sense and it makes me wonder,
Starting point is 01:02:47 what are the gays of Gaza movement? What are these progressive jihadists? Have they heard any of this? Because if they've heard this, that means they're willfully and vocally advocating for everything you just read. So we talk about the gays and the grooming. I always will come back to
Starting point is 01:03:06 This whole gaze for Gaza progressive jihadist Inconvenient marriage makes no sense to me, but now it makes a little bit more sense Especially if you're able to groom kids based on a doctrine very weird and not everybody signs up for this So be careful what you're purchasing. That's my only thoughts. Yeah, and by the way, what you just said, a lot of people said that was the time. That was 600 years, whatever the time. What Khomeini wrote was only 60 years ago.
Starting point is 01:03:33 60. 60 years ago. You're not talking about 400 years ago. That's 1960s. He's not changing. At all. No, no, no, this is not a new thing. So.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And it's not like it ended when he wrote the book. There's still living. Yeah. So let's go to the next one here. This has to do with business and Tom, I'm coming to you with this one here. US calls on China to prevent Iran from closing straight of Hormuz and disrupting global oil flows. Now Iran government poised to shut it down, closing off 20% of global oil and gas.
Starting point is 01:04:07 And this is what Rubio had to say about the Skofort wrap. No way we were leaving that for future generations. Secretary, final question here. Do you expect Iran to move to close the Strait of Hormuz to try to disrupt oil transportation across the world? Well, I encourage the Chinese government in Beijing to call them about that because they heavily depend on the straights or hormones for their oil. If they do that it will be another terrible mistake. It's economic suicide
Starting point is 01:04:34 for them if they do it and we retain options to deal with that but other countries should be looking at that as well. It would hurt other countries' economies a lot worse than ours. It would be, I think, a massive escalation that would merit a response, not just by us, but from others. So, look, they're going to say what they need to say. You know, these are the things that need to happen for their own internal politics and so forth. But in the end, we're going to judge them by the actions that they take moving forward. We had three objectives. We struck those three objectives with decisive force.
Starting point is 01:05:06 And that was the point of this mission. And that's what we achieved. What happens next will depend on what they do. They want to negotiate, we're ready to negotiate. They want to get cute and do things that are dangerous. We have responses available that are devastating. Secretary, was China complicit? We know that jets flew into Iran. We don't know what were on those jets." Get to Toronto's main venues like Budweiser Stage and the new Rogers Stadium with Go Transit. Thanks to Go Transit's special online e-ticket fairs, a $10 one-day weekend pass offers unlimited travel on any weekend day or holiday, anywhere along the Go network. And the weekday group passes offer the same weekday travel flexibility across the network,
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Starting point is 01:06:07 Shop now at NoFrails.ca. We don't have any evidence that the Chinese were involved in it. Tom, thoughts on this? Well, Iran's largest trading partner is China on an import-export basis. They go back and forth and China has been trying to develop this relationship because for China's got a lot of people and a lot of land, but not a lot of energy resources and they need energy partners, which is why they turned to the North, to Russian for natural gas and this is why they were with Iran trying to build this and they have a very intricate economic relationship and Rubio very astutely says hey, it's not like we're calling China
Starting point is 01:06:51 Hey, buddy, you're a big country in the world, too. Could you call Iran and just let them know? No, it's like hey China You know you need their energy you need stuff like this when they close that port You the the first country that gets impacted outside of Iran themselves who stops getting economic, you need stuff like this. When they close that port, the first country that gets impacted outside of Iran themselves, who stops getting economic, you know, stops getting money, stops part of their own economy, is you, dude. So why don't you call them? And it says, you're calling me while you're negotiating with me and you're kicking me in the balls and you're trying to get us to do this deal, trade deal. Hey, dude, what we talk with you is what we talk with you about. I'm saying it's in your best interest to call Iran and tell them not to close the
Starting point is 01:07:30 Straits here because you need the oil too. And so Rubio is very astutely pointing out that, you know, suddenly there's a question that has to be asked of China, which is, you know what? This hurts you. What are you going to do about it it because this is a global problem. This is not a Middle East problem So, you know what this does though Tom what do you have you rob with JD Vance? This is also JD Vance speaking about the Strait of Hormuz closure and the effects go for it Shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, which of course handles about a quarter of the world's
Starting point is 01:08:05 oil trade. Would that be a red line for the United States, Mr. Vice President? Well, Kristen, I think our biggest red line is the Iranian nuclear weapons program. That is really what the president has said we need to get rid of. But what about the Strait of Hormuz? He steps towards doing that last night. Well, I think that would be suicidal, Kristen, for the Iranians themselves. I mean, their entire economy runs through the straight of Hormuz. If they
Starting point is 01:08:29 want to destroy their own economy and cause disruptions in the world, I think that would be their decision. But why would they do that? I don't think it makes any sense. I don't think that it makes sense for them or for anybody else. What would make sense is for them to come to the negotiating table to actually give up their nuclear weapons program over the long term. And again, if they're willing to do that, they're going to find a willing partner in the United States of America. Yeah. So you know, you know what this this brings to a conversation of Adam, were you going to say something about this? Yeah. You know, when you talk about economic suicide during this, does anybody believe Iran at all at this point? You know when you know Iran is lying?
Starting point is 01:09:09 Or when the Ayatollah is lying or the IRG is lying? When their lips are moving. At what point are their words and their threats gonna be taken seriously? Oh, tomorrow's the day. You wait and see, everyone's gonna get it. I swear, nothing, nothing comes from these people. All they do is talk.
Starting point is 01:09:29 They can't even fight their own wars. Everything they do is a proxy. These people have been talking about death to America, death to Israel, death to the great Satan. They're crumbling. They have no credibility at this point. So now they're gonna turn off their own economic lifeline to do what it makes no sense to me They're a backwards way of thinking and none of their threats come to fruition
Starting point is 01:09:54 So and you're also seeing China Didn't didn't China call Islam or Islam extremism a mental disorder? Correct me if I'm wrong. Did the CCP not say that? They shut down a bunch, they closed on a bunch of mosques too, didn't they Adam, in China? Number two, you're starting to see Russia turn its back on Iran. One of the main stories in the Wall Street Journal
Starting point is 01:10:18 is how Putin has now turned a cold shoulder onto Iran. Quote unquote, Russia is not as good of a friend or ally as it pretends to be with Iran. Putin often turns his back on his autocratic friends when they need him. So with friends like these who needs enemies, I don't see anybody coming to Iran's defense, including Qatar, who's number two on the list of state-sponsored terrorism or terrorism advocacy. Iran does nothing but make threats. Even when they bombed the military site in Qatar, they gave them a heads up only to save face. They're basically like, look, I know you kicked the living crap out of me, but I at least got to show some resolve and
Starting point is 01:11:05 some strength. So move all your assets out of there, Qatar, while I bomb and give you a heads up while I'm doing it. Does anybody think the people that are running the country of Iran have any credibility at this point? So my answer is no. Rob, can you chaggity this real quick, what Adam just said, that China called Islam a mental disorder?
Starting point is 01:11:24 I want to make sure we address that because we've heard it on many different stories that Rob, can you chat GBT this real quick what Adam just said, the China call Islam a mental disorder? I want to make sure we address that because we've heard it on many different stories that we have read about, but I just want to fact check this here because that's a big statement. Zoom in a little bit if you could, Rob. Let's see what it says. I'm looking at something. Oh, I'm sorry. Check and check.
Starting point is 01:11:42 I don't like these statements. I'm sure. What kind of research is this? And also Google has re-education camps. I've not seen a research like that, that is coming up. That's very weird what Chad GPT is doing. Maybe you just offend the Chad GPT. Rob, today you may want to be careful when you drive home to see because it's not happy
Starting point is 01:12:00 with you. I ask the question here. But it's no secret what's going on with the Uyghurs in China. That's not a secret. They're all in re-education camps curing them from Islam. Okay, here we go. Yes, the Chinese government has in fact portrayed Islam, especially amongst Uyghurs in Xinjiang, not merely as a religion but as a form of mental illness or ideological disease that
Starting point is 01:12:23 requires treatment or cure. The Chinese really said that. According to Al Jazeera, Beijing has described Islam as a mental illness that needs to be cured with its re-education camp aimed at Uyghur Muslims. Atlantic reports that Chinese authorities liken their camps to hospitals, treaty religions, extremism as a psychological condition to be remedied. Detail summary in New York Magazine, Intelligencer, explains that Islam was officially framed by Chinese officials as infectious ideological illness cleansed from their brain. Additional human rights, wow, pretty
Starting point is 01:12:53 pretty... And just to add to that... This is the biggest backer of Iran, correct me if I'm wrong, the CCP is the biggest funder of the IRGC and Ayatollah. And Adam, I just... Fork all that square for me, how when they call your entire religion doctrine a mental disorder, yet you're following their lead? Make that make sense to me. And Adam, I had to fact check myself because I said that they destroyed, China destroyed mosque.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Yes, the Chinese government has destroyed or repurposed hundreds of mosques, especially in Xinjiang, where the majority of the Uyghur Muslim population lives. In 2019, the Guardian and Bellicat revealed that over 30% of mosques in Xinjiang were damaged or destroyed. And they're saying why? It's because Chinese campaign of religious and cultural suppression particularly targeted Muslims under the guise of counterterrorism and anti-extremism. So that's what China is doing. By the way, you know what this makes me think about? Here's what it makes me think about.
Starting point is 01:13:53 I watch everyone's argument and I try to see how deep the argument can go because this is how arguments and ideas work. You first pitch an idea or you make an argument and if you're very convincing, what does the other side do? Maybe they believe you because of how convincing you deliver your message. You're convinced. Conviction is needed. So you're like, okay, you're a good salesperson, I got it.
Starting point is 01:14:14 But then you watch somebody push you back on your idea and then that person makes an argument and you're like, okay, let's see what you're going to say now. And then you make an argument, oh my God, that was actually pretty good. And then all of a sudden, boom, your argument starts breaking and breaking and breaking and breaking. The argument of American only versus America first, kind of what we were talking about yesterday, right? America only versus America first.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Do you know why that argument eventually loses the America only? If you're America only, you can't get involved in straight of hormones. You have to try to generate that on your own. Because now if there's a war there, you're like, no, no, no, we're America only, we're not going to get involved. You kind of have to because your people are relying on you to make good decisions to get the oil that we need, whatever the... yeah, if you're America only, if you don't have like, for me, I think we have 800 military bases around the world.
Starting point is 01:15:14 That's a lot that we have. Now if you don't do it, the enemy will do it. If the enemy does it and the enemy gets more influence, then when it comes down to having leverage and time to do the things you want to do, then all of a sudden what happens? You don't have any control. If you're America only, the people that say America only, there's an element of them that they're solopreneurs, Tom. You know what I mean by solopreneur?
Starting point is 01:15:39 Tom Hanks Totally. You talk to a solopreneur, like in PHP I had insurance agents that were just producers and they couldn't stand building an agency. You know why? Because what does building an agency require you to be able to do? Focus, work, determination, follow the playbook, stay with the program. What is the most annoying thing about building an agency? Having to lose people and recruit people at the same time. What is the most annoying thing about getting married and having kids?
Starting point is 01:16:08 What's the most annoying thing about building a company? What is the most annoying thing about building a team? What is the most annoying thing about playing football where you're dealing with 52 players versus being a tennis player? It's people in relationships. That's not turnkey. Number one, human beings are annoying. By the way, all of us are annoying to some, I guarantee you, I'm annoying to a lot of
Starting point is 01:16:33 people. I guarantee you Vinny, as funny as you are, I guarantee you're annoying. The only person on this set that is not annoying to anybody is Adam. Adam doesn't annoy anybody. He's the only guy that you look at the comment section. But you know what it is? It's hard being perfect, PBD, I get it. Listen, most of us don't walk on water like you.
Starting point is 01:16:51 But you're getting used to it. But you know, the whole thing about America only versus America first, a solopreneur is sick and tired of managing employees because it's hard. It sucks. A solopreneur that they try to run a business like Bill Maher, $15 million raised to us, we're going to build a podcast agency. Then they do it. Oh, I hate this shit.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Why? Drama, drama, drama, my producer doesn't work. Where are the notes? How come you don't have this? They do it better. They do this and they do that. Shut the whole thing down. This thing sucks.
Starting point is 01:17:23 I don't want to work with anybody. No shit. This thing sucks. I don't want to work with anybody. No shit. It's hard. So that's why it's like, podcaster only. Solo-preneur. I'm just going to do myself. It's not possible for you to have an America-only mindset. You know what's the best story about the America-only argument?
Starting point is 01:17:38 Check this out. One of the most important business meetings in the last hundred years in America This is probably got to be in the top ten meetings in the last hundred years and Tom Let me see if you're gonna see where I'm going with this. You ready? Who are Two of the most influential founders in the history of business the last 50 years Gates and jobs to be on my list. Gates and Jobs.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Do you know who was more competitive between the two? Some will say Jobs. Gates was pretty competitive. But do you know what ends up happening? One day, Apple is about to go out of business. And Steve Jobs holds a meeting. And if you've never seen this, it's so powerful. Rob, if you can find it, it's awesome to watch.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Jobs gets up on stage, who is Apple only? Of course. He hates Microsoft, passionately. He gets up on stage and he says, for the longest time, at Apple, we thought in order for Apple to win, Microsoft must lose. And he says, but the reality of it is, that's not the right way of thinking. When Apple's about to go out of business, guess who gives Apple money? Microsoft?
Starting point is 01:18:50 How much money do they give them? I think it's like $300 million, give or take. Real money. Real money. Microsoft gives Steve Jobs $300 million. Just to have a competitor? Apple is about to shut it down. They were going through a terrible season the computers weren't selling
Starting point is 01:19:06 They're going through a very rough time so an Apple only company mindset the sites to team up with the enemy. Yeah, they raised the money You know what Microsoft wore today. You know what Apple is worth today. I think both of them are worth I guess though, I think both Apple and Microsoft are worth $3 trillion today. People that worked at Apple made millions of dollars, some made billions of dollars. Tim Cook is officially a billionaire. A lot of people that worked at Microsoft, many made millions, many made billions.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Balmer now is as rich as Steve Jobs, as rich as, what do you call it? Gates? Gates is. The mindset of America only is limited. It's just hard to do when your country is this big. It's very hard to do. Look at this Markey cap, which one Rob? This is Microsoft.
Starting point is 01:19:57 $3.63 trillion dollars. And what was Apple? $3 trillion dollars. $3 trillion dollars. The idea of being able to work together, they brought $6.5 trillion of money to American people, people around the world. That's why American only is limited on the argument. It hits a wall eventually.
Starting point is 01:20:17 If that concept doesn't work in marriage, if that concept doesn't work, we're going to do it ourselves, we don't need anybody's help. Dude, then you're not going to have date nights. You need a babysitter. No, we don't need nobody's help. You do. No, we're going to do it ourselves. We don't need anybody's help. Dude, then you're not going to have date nights. You need a babysitter. No, we don't need nobody's help. You do. No, we're going to do this company by ourselves. You need to hire people.
Starting point is 01:20:30 You can't do it all by yourself. So every time you see like Strait of Hormuz, all this, we need to negotiate, we need to negotiate that, it shows. Do you think America needs Iran to be working with them on Strait of Hormuz to not shut it down and destroy it? Of course. Who else needs them? China?
Starting point is 01:20:43 Russia? Everybody. That instance right there tells you America only is out. It's America first that works, not America only. My opinion. My opinion. OK, let's go to the next story here. New York today. Can I say why I agree with you just real quick? Go ahead, Adam. Because you know they say what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. No, not necessarily. And by the way, what happens in the Middle East does not stay in the Middle East.
Starting point is 01:21:07 We're now in a global economic contingency where everything is integrated. So oil, you know, for everyone who thinks that the oil is going to be basically dead, yeah, tell that to Saudi Aramco that I think has a $2 trillion market cap. Only company in the world in the top 10 that's not United States. Global shipping, trade, supply chain, oil, oil, oil, oil, everything is going to affect the American markets, everything. So for the people that want to live like an ostrich and pretend, oh, no, let's not get involved.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Let's not get involved. Be the libertarians of America. Where's Dave Smith's argument at this point? It's very limited in scope. Because anybody that's a true actor realizes America has to lead. Because if we get out of the Middle East, if we get out of Taiwan, who's going to fill that vacuum? I'll ask you.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Russia's going to step in, China's going to step in, and all these bad actors are going to fill that vacuum. I'd rather have American hegemony over the rest of the world than China or Russia or Iran any day. So fully agree with you on the America first versus America only DVD. Yeah, it's limited. It's a noble argument. Trust me, it's a very noble argument.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Everybody that's saying it, I understand they're coming from a very, very noble place. Let me take care of my family, my job. Michael Jackson's song is what? If you want to make the world a better place, what does look at yourself and make a change. I get it. I understand that. I understand that. Yeah, I mean right there. But at the same time, unfortunately, if you want to make a change, pass the propofol. Yeah, we're going gonna go. When a plane is falling, you don't put on the air mask first and only, you put it on first and then. Oh, thank you so much Adam for your help with that
Starting point is 01:22:51 because I love it. This is why we need Adam in our lives to give us input like that. You're amazing Adam. Listen, some of us don't fly private PBDs so we gotta remember those instructions. Listen, with all the APAC money you're getting from Israel, we all know how you travel. You travel. Yeah, yeah. We the great those instructions. Listen, with all the APAC money you're getting from Israel, we all know how you travel.
Starting point is 01:23:05 You travel. Yeah, yeah. We the great home money. Send it to my house, APAC. Right now I've received zero checks. Maybe you're sending it to the office. But I'll take the money all day, every day. I just haven't received any.
Starting point is 01:23:17 According to some people, Adam's got some real money we don't know about. I wish I did, guys. Admit it on camera. Yeah. All right, okay, so let's go to, let's go to what's going on in New York today. New York, folks, is a bit of a shit show right now
Starting point is 01:23:31 with this election that they got going on for the mayoral. Yeah, it is so wild. Rob, do you have the video? This is, I wanna read this to you before I go to this. What page is the candidate on about New York's mayoral candidate? Rob, if you can't give it to me, I'll go to it. I don't know why I can't find it.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. That is under? I know I marked it off. Oh, you know what? That's addendum. I'm sorry. I'll go to addendum. All right.
Starting point is 01:23:54 So check this out, folks. So, Mam Donnie shoots up a New York City polymarket odds after surging ahead of Andrew Cuomo in poll, this is USA Today. I'm going to read this and I want you to watch a clip of him. Zohran Mamdani, a 33 year old second-term assembly member, briefly surpassed former New York governor Andrew Cuomo as a front runner New York City Democratic mayoral primary on June 23rd according to Polymarket, a cryptocurrency based prediction market headquartered in New York City. The June 23rd Emerson College Polling Market Headquartered in New York City.
Starting point is 01:24:29 The June 23rd survey showed Cuomo with 35% support in the first round followed by Mabdani 32%, with Mabdani now with 52% to 48% after eight rounds of ranked choice voting. The Emerson poll conducted June 18-20 with over 830 likely early voters had a 3.3% margin of error, marked a significant shift as the most previous polls show Cuomo leading by 10 points. Rob, here's a clip. Oh, that's the polling market? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Whoa. Yahtzee. Cuomo had a massive lead and then all of a sudden, boom. How much of that do you think the end has to do with Israel-Iran war right now that's taking place? Obviously, that's the only thing that would make that dramatic of a shift. Can you play a clip of this guy to see how he views the economy? I think there's a video of him breaking down what he would do to the supermarkets in New
Starting point is 01:25:15 York and tell me if you recognize this, other countries that have tried this and if it's worked or not. Go ahead, Rob. Most free prices are out of control. The cost of eggs and milk has skyrocketed. Some stores are even using dynamic pricing, jacking up the cost over the course of a day, depending on what they can get away with.
Starting point is 01:25:30 It doesn't need to be this way. I'm Zahram Nandani, and as mayor, I will create a network of city-owned grocery stores. It's like a public option for produce. We will redirect city funds from corporate supermarkets to city-owned grocery stores, whose mission is lower prices, not price gouging. These stores will operate without a profit motive or having to pay property taxes or rent and will pass on those savings
Starting point is 01:25:53 to you. Okay so Tom economically does that make any sense to you? No and what's happening over with Zoran and by the the way, you know, he is so easy. The unfortunate thing about his last name is it quickly becomes Madman Madman. So we have this mad many. And he is basically saying all saying socialist in the space of three weeks. He said no GPAs. Yeah, I'm going to change public high schools. We're going to own grocery stores and we're going to fill them.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Ask the people in the Soviet Union how that worked out. The shelves were never full. Things didn't work. The five year plan for crops didn't work. It didn't work. Now he wants to bring that New York. Oh, so we're going to run state owned city owned supermarkets. That's going to change the price of an apple that's being sold by the farmer. No, it doesn't. Inflation changes that. Diesel fuel to ship for that truck to drive the apples around changes that.
Starting point is 01:26:54 So he's doing that and he keeps going down the list. But guess what? There's a bunch of people who are behind it. And so New Yorkers have to decide what they want. And by the way, the reason Cuomo looks so good, it's like if you ever watch the Miss USA and they bring out the women in alphabetical order and for 31 seconds Miss Afghanistan is the most beautiful woman on the stage because she's the only woman on the stage. And that's what happened to Cuomo. He was the only woman on the stage. And now there's an alternative out there
Starting point is 01:27:25 and New Yorkers are actually, some of them are choosing a psychopathic, liberal, spouting socialist, Marxist ideology on one side. And on the other side, they're rejecting a politician returning to the ring with some baggage, with some COVID baggage. You gotta say it, it's there. And choosing to get back in the ring as mayor of New York, but with people surveyed believing he doesn't want to be mayor long-term, he really has
Starting point is 01:27:54 other aspirations, he wants to get back in the bigger ring, and so that's what's going on here, but Zoran Madman, this is good lord New Yorkers, you, you, you, in the last election you shifted more than you ever have And now you're turning back to this free stuff take away merit-based high schools take away GPAs State-run stores none of that ends well And we've got 65 years of socialist Marxist experiments around the world to see it But you know what if they vote for it, I guess they deserve it. Any thoughts?
Starting point is 01:28:27 Well, I mean, first of all, could we just take a second? Besides Los Angeles, Tom, New York, what can we just point out that this is the democratic leadership? Like they cannot, they don't have the pool of people for them to vote on is absolutely ridiculous, okay? First, like you said, Tom, a disgraced ex-governor who wiped out, almost wiped out single-handedly the nursing home population in New York during COVID. I'm not afraid to say it, Tom, I'll say it. You got Eric Adams who begged, remember?
Starting point is 01:28:58 Begged for illegals to come there, make it a sanctuary city, and then he cropped foul when they showed up. And then all of a sudden he's flipping and now he sounds more Republican than everything and he's on their investigation from the FBI. So New York just from the jump is good. You make a good point about they don't usually don't have a lot of choices. They have usually it's usually like a scale.
Starting point is 01:29:16 It goes from guano to fertilizer to manure to horse shit, all of it wrapped in bullshit. Yeah, exactly. And ladies and gentlemen, the Democrat primary. Yeah. But here's my question, Tom. I don't want to laugh about it. When are they going to wake up? When are you going to get it? And like this guy's a radical Marxist. Okay, he has Islamic like supremacist background. All right. And imagine telling the families of 9-11, 24 years later, that this guy, this like jihadi-backed freaking Marxist is going to get, it looks like he's going to get elected.
Starting point is 01:29:49 And there's a guy named Trevor Loudon. He's an expert on Marxist and terrorist groups. He said that Mamdani is a Marxist member of the Democratic Socialists of America, DSA. He's a 12-er Shia Muslim, which Adam, you'll love this. Same sect as Iran's ruling regime right now, and you know what they're about. His father supports Hamas and called Israelis Nazis. And Tom, you'll know this, the last time New York City had a Marxist mayor from the DSA,
Starting point is 01:30:16 do you know who it was? David Dinkins in the 1990s. And guess what happened? Crime skyrocketed, drugs were flooded into the streets, businesses shut down, Times Square became a freaking cesspool and tourism collapsed, okay? And then the city nearly died, but Giuliani had to rescue New York from the wreckage. Now it's happening again, but this time with a Marxist, with Islamic supremacy tied in. I'm telling you right now, if they win, this is just look at London, look at Europe, look at France
Starting point is 01:30:49 and just to see what's going to happen. OK, crime is going to explode. Terror is going to become normalized and the city is going to turn into a third world zone. You'll see it. And their tax base is already changing right before their eyes as wealthy people and businesses move out of the city proper, meaning the five boroughs. Keep this in mind. AOC totally supports him. This is this is him out there on the city proper, meaning the five boroughs. By the way, keep this in mind. AOC totally supports him.
Starting point is 01:31:07 This is him out there on the streets. Watch this one here, folks. This is him. Go for it. Very friendly. Did you hear what he said? He's screaming at Tom Homan. Do you believe in the First Amendment?
Starting point is 01:31:27 So this guy is definitely not about securing the border. So you already know if you do something with this guy, you're going to get the de Blasio 2.0. And by the way, go to AOC, Rob, what I just sent you, two things, New York Times, AOC endorses him, and also they're out there in the video, the video I sent you, I don't know if you see the video, of them protesting together, not protesting together, marching together. She's got the Puerto Rico, is this, yeah that's the one right there Rob, watch this, Vinny,
Starting point is 01:31:53 you will love this. That's AOC in the red with Mamdani. Okay? So I mean they're doing their part too. They're doing their part but New York City's got to step up and do something about this. Adam, do you have any thoughts on this? Yeah, well, let me look on the bright side. You know, you always say this, elections have consequences.
Starting point is 01:32:17 So New York City, get ready for the consequences. You know, I will give this guy credit. Authenticity matters. I believe he stands for what he says. You know, when someone tells you who they are, believe them, he tells you, I'm a democratic socialist. I am a pro-Palestine, anti-Israel democratic socialist. I'm with the squad. I'm with Bernie. I'm with AOC. This is who I am. I co-founded the Justice for Palestine. Why are we surprised by any of this? This is eerily reminiscent, these odds on the polymarket,
Starting point is 01:32:55 of exactly what happened in Canada just a few months ago. Pierre Pauliier was 90% likely to win. Couple of weeks before the election. Mark Carney surges in the polls, Justin Trudeau's out, and now Canada is run by another leftist. So, New York, your time to shine is either over or it's just starting. So, one of the interviews that you did,
Starting point is 01:33:24 recently, BBD, that I've watched, not once, not twice, three times, is Tommy Robinson. He's warned us. It's coming for you. It's probably too late for what's happened in London. It's probably too late for what's happened in Paris. It's probably too late for what's happened in cities all around Europe. New York, you're about to have potentially a democratic socialist
Starting point is 01:33:46 progressive jihadist mayor. This is a far throw from what Rudy Giuliani was when he cleaned up the streets in New York. Best of luck. It's not good, Pat. And Pat, can I just really, really fast? Yeah, of course. Because AOC and all them are talking shit. What's her name? Jasmine Crockett, everything, because they're trying to impeach Trump for what he's doing Especially in the Middle East with what happened because just just to really really fast just to FYI for everybody out there That's talking shit about Trump about the bombings guess how many bombs Barack Obama dropped in his last year of his presidency We'll take a wild guess 26,172 he dropped almost 12,200 on Syria, 12,000 in Iraq, almost 500 in Libya, Yemen, Somalia,
Starting point is 01:34:31 and Pakistan. So for everybody out there that's talking shit about Trump, agree or disagree, for them to be out there, and Trump just tweeted at AOC, I'm not going to read it, Pat, it's long as hell. I just sent it to Rob. I'll just give you the beginning of it, Robbie. He says, and you guys will love it, stupid AOC, Alexandre Cortez, one of the dumbest people in Congress, is now calling for my impeachment despite the fact that crooked and corrupt Democrats have
Starting point is 01:34:54 already done that twice before. It's just like, it's such a, what is it when you select, like what you want to be argued about, Tom, but the other side's been doing it forever? like what you want to be argue about Tom, but the other side's been doing it forever. Yeah, the, you know, the Democrat actually it comes out of the sixties, but it's like accuse the, the incumbent opponent of doing exactly what you are already doing. Yeah, exactly. And they've been doing it for freaking how long? Get ready for prices in Miami and in Florida to start surging because I feel like a lot of millionaires and billionaires and job creators, people who are not a fan of not only his ideology but just straight up socialism are going to get the hell out of there just like they left during the pandemic.
Starting point is 01:35:35 It's funny you're saying this. It's like wave 2.0. Yeah, if you go to DeSantis' tweet, he's just saying what DeSantis said two days ago. If you go to DeSantis' tweet, you'll see what DeSantis said. And Adam is right. Check this out. DeSantis said two days ago, go a little bit higher. I think it's that one right there.
Starting point is 01:35:53 Zoom in right there, right at the top. Just when you thought Palm Beach Real Estate couldn't go any higher. You know what he's saying. By the way, look how many people retweeted that and liked that post. Go a little bit lower. It's one of his most, 3.2 million right there, 14 on the comment. There's, okay, so nothing's going to be changing with New York. Guess what I'm doing?
Starting point is 01:36:10 I'm moving to Florida. This is another, however many years you got to deal with. You know they say the canary in the coal mine, you've heard that term? This might be it for America. But I'm going gonna tell you guys, these two are not in the same league. Not at all. They're not in the same league. Andrew Cuomo knows how to govern and he's being a mayor. He had a massive, massive catastrophic mistake. Don't make any you know ifs and up bones. He made a massive, massive mistake but they're not in the same league.
Starting point is 01:36:44 And one hour ago Cuomo was leading him by 14 points in the survey. One hour ago? Yeah, one hour ago. So we'll see what's going to happen here. I think at the end of the day, they're going to just settle down and go with Andrew Cuomo and he'll be the mayor of New York City. He's got to turn up his campaign because right now he's kind of vanilla. Yeah, let's go to the next one.
Starting point is 01:37:02 US-Trump big, beautiful bill gets slimmed down in Senate. Adam, I'm going to come to you with this one here. President Trump's tax and spending mega bill described as a big beautiful bill is being scaled back in the Senate after Senate by a parliamentarian. Elizabeth McDowell ruled several provisions eligible in the budget reconciliation process which requires measures to be primarily budget budget related to a simple majority vote. Chuck Schumer praised the decision and a few others. McDonough's ruling removed provisions like the one requiring the state to pay part of
Starting point is 01:37:36 the food benefits based on payments projected to save $128 billion over a decade and a few other things. Adam, your thoughts on this? Adam Fossum Well, anyone that's interested in knowing how a bill becomes a law, I encourage you to watch the video that they made us watch when we were in eighth grade. Everyone freaks out when something passes in the house. Oh my god, it's gonna raise the debt ceiling. Oh my god, we're gonna spend so much money. Oh my god. Relax, the Senate has been called the cooling saucer
Starting point is 01:38:06 for when the House heats up the agenda. So what happens is the Senate will come in and be like, I don't know about all this. You know who looks very, very bad right now? Is Elon Musk. Because Elon Musk was calling for dismantling this bill and saying that it basically led to their complete, just destroying their relationship.
Starting point is 01:38:31 I haven't heard much of it since a week ago, since his Iran thing. But in my opinion, Elon spoke way too soon. He started basically criticizing everything to anybody that's been following any time a bill becomes a law. It doesn't just get approved immediately. It's just like the debt ceiling. Tom would know this better than anybody. How many times are they saying,
Starting point is 01:38:53 Oh my God, we're going over the edge. It's over. And then all of a sudden they save the day and pass a continuing resolution to make sure that we actually have enough money to fund the government every October government works. This is how the United States government works. We get to see how the sausage is made. It's not pretty. But that's what it's like being in America. You get to eliminate what you don't want. And hopefully they're eliminating all the pork, and basically the items that will drive up the debt. So we'll see what happens here, but it's not approved yet.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Tom thoughts. So whenever things go to the Senate, that's where the real big things happen. Why is that? Because senators have longer terms in office and much bigger, more expensive campaigns and much bigger interest. They say companies elect congressmen, representatives, industries elect senators. And so the Senate is coming and making bigger cuts on this. And you look at what's going on in there, what they talked about and that they want to eliminate. And they want to. So you got to post bonds for injunctions against the government and proposals defund the Consumer
Starting point is 01:40:16 Financial Protection Bureau and move emerge the public company accounting oversight board in the Securities Exchange Commission. Those were refinements that were coming out of Congress. And now the Senate is looking at, well, not so fast. Let's not, you know, because I got everybody in the energy sector doesn't want to see you suddenly have a consolidation of regulatory authority. You see how that works, Pat? So you got everybody behind Senator Blouhard, you know, and saying, hey, man, you know, you better take this out of this bill, man, because we don't want this. Who doesn't want it? Well, I'm standing here representing Exxon and Chevron. I know who the hell you are. I know you represent the entire petroleum industry. But that's what's going on right now is the big beautiful bill. Some of the more restrictive things get restricted because industries use their
Starting point is 01:41:05 power over say five congressmen which is five percent of the total votes that you need to get something of the Senate but ten percent of the votes to get it passed so if you and I were the energy sector Pat remember we only have to get to five congressmen to have ten percent of what we need on the 51 percent passage what's the chances that Elon read the entire bill? The chances that Elon read the bill I think it's very very low but did he get summaries from Grok and go through things like that? I believe he did. Okay so what's the chances that when he's reading the bill what do you think are the top three things he's looking for in
Starting point is 01:41:41 the bill that got him to pop off? Well, I think we can safely say that the 70... Look, he's the number one market shareholder of EVs. So when $7,500 credit for anyone buying a new EV in the industry, he can say that benefits the whole EV industry. And I think that got him to pop off. He was also very upset about NASA funding and what he wanted was a hard integration of SpaceX and the Dragon capsule that went up and ultimately offered to save the astronauts who were stuck in a space station So I think there was NASA and I also think there were things for the EV industry like that $7,500 credit that he says oh, that's not only about Tesla. Give me a break.
Starting point is 01:42:28 You're 70% of the charging stations and you're 44% of the market share. Of course that one benefits you more than anybody else. And you can sound noble and say, well, it's about EVs everywhere. But I think those kind of things is what really got him going. Yeah, makes sense. So to me, I think the main things he's looking at is stuff that he's going to be connected with financially. Tesla, but I think EV is going to be at the top, right?
Starting point is 01:42:51 And when you see something that's going to all of a sudden trigger your business, suddenly you go zero to nuclear the way that he did and it's over with. And if you notice a couple things that we talked about last, on Saturday, the emergency meeting of who is in the inner, inner, inner circle. If this is the inner circle of Trump, and let's just say five people are in here, this is 20 people, this is 50 people. Where is Ilan at right now? Oh, he's on the outside. Oh yeah, he's outside the third ring.
Starting point is 01:43:22 He's outside the third ring. I think so as well. And by the way, there's a part of me that thinks he's also happy and he's done and he's doing what Larry Ellison is doing to not want to have as much to do with politics because he really went off last year, 2024, going in all in, fully driving, doing all the stuff that he did and then all of a sudden notice what happened with business, issues, results, headaches, because I'm out of it. I don't know if I want to mess with it anymore. All right, let's go on to the next one.
Starting point is 01:43:51 We'll see about it. We don't know yet. We'll see if he's not going to, maybe he's going to make a comeback and we don't know anything about what's going on here with him. Next story I want to get into, and Tom, I'm coming to you here. Very, very interesting, folks. This is worth you listening to, especially if you want to buy a house, sell a house, whatever you're going through.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Story comes out that says, new real estate math, half a million more sellers than buyers, Wall Street Journal. While that story's out there, the other story, Financial Times, says, federal reserve starts to split on when to begin cutting U.S. interest rates. Huh. What do they mean by this? I can't wait for Tom to tell you guys what Scott Besson's idea is here. Okay, so let me read this to you.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Christopher Waller, no relation to Christopher Walken, federal governor, potential successor to Federal Reserve System Chair Jay Powell advocated for a rate cut as early as next month, stating in a CNBC interview, we've been on pause for six months thinking they're going to be a big turn of shock to inflation. We haven't seen it. We should be basing policy on the data. This contrasts with Fed's unanimous decision yesterday, Wednesday, to maintain rates at four and a quarter to four and a half. Despite President Trump pushing to cut rates to 3.5 points, Trump criticized Powell on
Starting point is 01:45:07 Truth Social Friday saying, I don't know why the board doesn't override this total and complete moron. Maybe just maybe I have to change my mind about firing him, but regardless, his term ends shortly. Powell, whose term ends in May 2026, acknowledged Wednesday, there was a pretty healthy diversity of views on the committee, but noted with uncertainty as elevated as it is, no one holds these rate paths with a lot of conviction.
Starting point is 01:45:33 Tom, what idea does Besant have that you wanna share with the rest of us? The Fed likes to say that it's neutral, right? They always like to say, well, we're neutral. We're not political, right? They say that all the time. But ladies and gentlemen, it's election season at the Fed. Christopher Waller is a potential successor to Federal Reserve Chairman Jay Powell. So who is in
Starting point is 01:45:57 charge of selecting the candidate? Trump. So guess what? It is 10 months to a new Fed chair. We are coming up coming up on Ted month. So isn't it interesting that Christopher Waller doesn't slam Mr. Powell, but he certainly says, I think it I'm on the dot chart. And I think maybe it's time to cut. Remember, European Central Bank right now. It's 2.1 to 2.4. That's where the European Central Bank is. And we're still at four. So we're two percentage points ahead, I mean,
Starting point is 01:46:31 above the European Central Bank. Well, check this out. Why would Christopher Waller be saying something like this? Well, there's also other things going on. Do you know what Scott Besson, in addition to being in favor of nukes, which is a good thing in my book, in addition to being pro crypto, which is a good thing in my book, and in addition to being in favor of cutting rates to help businesses borrow more cheaply, not at zero, but more cheaply, and to help homeowners stimulate the biggest asset
Starting point is 01:47:01 that most people have, Besson's in favor of all of that. But you also know what else he's in favor of Hmm. He's in favor of this little proposal. This is hey Maybe we should nominate because the Fed is such a big deal and there's so much impact on the stock market What will the Fed do look at all the interest we have at Vinny? You see it like countdown to it's a three days, two days, one days, Powell's going to the microphone.
Starting point is 01:47:26 What will he say? It's a big deal, right? And it moves the stock market. Well, Besson has said, Hey, you know what? What if we nominate the Fed replacement now? What if Trump nominates him now? We get them confirmed now. And then the markets know what's going on because we're only 10
Starting point is 01:47:45 months away from a new Fed chairman and you know who whose name is getting floated by some of his friends Scott Besson's so Scott Besson is saying you know what maybe we should do this and as a matter of fact I'd like that job and so let's make a new Fed chairman because guess what happens the minute if they did that even though it's a year before you go into office, it's just like what happens to our president between November and January. Had Biden been, you know, God bless him, a full able bodied president. How much does even the best president get done between November the day after the election and the inauguration? Nothing.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Because it's called the lame duck period this would effectively Make Powell a lame duck and you would have Scott Besson known to be the next Fed coming in So he would be speaking to the markets and I found this whole parlor game interesting and Christopher Waller no surprise He wants to be a candidate too. And now he's come out and says, you know, maybe it is time to come great. You know what I'll say. Okay, so I think first of all it's a brilliant idea because it's representing a person. Like if Besant comes out and tells Trump, let's appoint somebody automatically from now that's gonna be the person in 2026. And get him confirmed. Yeah. There's a part of me that likes the idea, there's a part of me that thinks Trump won't do that because it's not his personality
Starting point is 01:49:07 because Trump wants people to compete for it to last minute. He doesn't want them to get too comfortable. And if he appoints and confirms, and then all of a sudden this guy and Jay Powell both agree, then he looks horrible. So confirming too early is a little bit also risky for me. I don't know if I would do that. And what if they both want to hold breaks? That is exactly the problem.
Starting point is 01:49:25 So I would pump the breaks on that. However, I will tell you this. The other thing you gotta study on the profile of Jerome Powell, I don't think Jerome Powell gives a shit. I don't think he cares, he's intimidated, he's threatened by his job. He does not give me the vibe of being that guy. I seriously don't think, he gives me the vibe of being so confident.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Who were his parents, by the way? Can we find that? Rob, can you tap on who were Jerome Powell's parents? I want to know whose parents were. Children he's got three, spouse Alyssa Leonard. Who's her pound? Parents have six children. To Patricia Hayden, a Jerome Powell Senior, lawyer in private practice.
Starting point is 01:50:06 His maternal grandfather, James Hayden, was the Dean of Columbus School of Law at Catholic University and later lecturer of Georgetown Law. He has five siblings. This guy was raised properly. Let me tell you, this guy was raised properly. To be that step poised. What's his faith? What's his denomination?
Starting point is 01:50:29 What does he believe in? What's his religion? What is... I think he's Catholic. He went to a Jesuit high school. Did he go to Jesuit University? Georgetown University. So wow.
Starting point is 01:50:41 I mean, if you read Jesuit Leadership, that book on how disciplined Jesuits are, Shon Paul, George Ann University, Catholic University of America, he has supported the Church of Charitable Efforts in D.C. Very interesting the way he is. He's a very, very interesting guy to be this strong in his. So while he has Catholic roots, he appears to be non-practicing. I don't know. I don't think he wakes up in the morning worried about this. Adam, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:51:10 Well, the best way to describe the relationship between Trump and Jerome Powell is if, picture a car. Trump is the gas and Powell is the brakes. And Trump's trying to go faster, he's trying to speed things up, and Powell's just like, relax, buddy. I got this. How many threats, how many broken promises has Trump made about Powell? This is one thing I will say about Trump where he's been dead wrong on. He's done zero to sway Powell's influence or his judgment.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Trump is crushing it right now, I believe, especially with foreign policy this week, but anything with Powell he's not doing well on. But if you take a look at the numbers, here's what's interesting about the United States right now. Inflation, United States versus the rest of the world. We're killing it. We're doing great. Our core consumer price index, I think, has it set like 2.4%. The rest of the world is in the mid-4s, 4.3%, 4.4%. Unemployment, because obviously the Fed is responsible for cooling inflation, but also keeping employment right up, right? So employment, I think America's somewhere around 4%, whereas the rest of the world is, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:52:26 in the fives, possibly even higher in some countries. The Fed fund rate, I think, is currently at 7.5%. I'm sorry, 4.5%. So the prime rate is 7.5%. United States is sitting really, really pretty compared to the rest of the world. You know where the rest of the world is doing better, at the very least? Take a look at what mortgage rates are in the United States versus the rest of the world. Take a look at what the United States' mortgage rates are
Starting point is 01:52:54 versus Canada or in countries in Europe. They're almost double in the United States versus the rest of the world. I don't know why that is. Our prime rate is obviously tethered very closely to the mortgage rates, but mortgage rates are a lot lower in the rest of the world. So we'll see what happens with the real estate market, but everything else in the market, inflation, employment, consumer price index is all in the United States favor right now. I let's just a story to CNN executives both struggling Network has anxiety soars over cost cutting after spin-off. Okay, and if we were in a different place and we would we would go go pick that brand up and just Easily right now we wouldn't flip it we We would flip it on its head and drive it.
Starting point is 01:53:46 Okay, Laura, Baron Bernardini, Vice President of Domestic News and Jack Smith, Vice President of Digital Video are leaving CNN with Bernardini having served 28 years and spent 17 years per Oliver Darcy status newsletter CNN, plans to tighten expense accounts starting July 1st, requiring receipts for travel and source meetings amid anxiety over corporate spinoff from Warner Brothers, Discovery, WBD and Global Networks led by WBD CFO Gunnar Weidenfalz who told staffers in a memo, I'm a deep admirer of CNN and consumerist content. Around the clock, CNN staffers expressed unease after the spin-off at one telling Darcy, everyone is weary and tired and there's so much change that we don't understand what direction the
Starting point is 01:54:36 company is going in. And another noting, there are people who think CNN won't exist at some point, hard to believe what will happen, but there are people who feel that way. Tom, thoughts on this? How bad is it? It's very bad. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. And these are just people that are reacting to the spinoff because the spinoff has said
Starting point is 01:54:52 one word, profitability. We have to operate profitable. So we're being spinoffed with a lot of the cable assets into a tracking stock. That stock will act like its own little company. And that's what Zaz, who's the ultimate CEO of Warren Brothers Discovery, is calling the shot here, has decided. He's going to take the streaming and the big stuff. He's going to continue to be CFO. And the CFO is going to run the other side of it.
Starting point is 01:55:20 And what's going on right now, everybody is freaking out because all eyes are on CNN. Why? Because even the people that run CNN and even the people that run the spin-off, they see that CNN can and should be more profitable. So guess what? They've been cutting contracts, they've been cutting people and they've been making changes for a year now coming up to this and now it's really happening and you got people that were there 28 years and 17 years. The party is over. They know the party's over. They don't have automatic positions, automatic. And these people were upset. They actually leaked out to Oliver Darcy. And Oliver Darcy is a very good source of media gossip from inside. And they leaked to Oliver Darcy. Oh man, it's going to be bad. They're tightening up our expense reports and he receipts for everything.
Starting point is 01:56:09 Well, guess what? There is another part of that two hour lunches and people were spending excessive amounts on a company credit card for lunch. In other words, hey, we're CNN. We get to do everything and the cuts are coming and it's you know what? Anderson Cooper salary is going to get closer to Caitlin Collins not the other way around they're all getting squeezed down because it has to be profitable and now you're finding
Starting point is 01:56:33 layers of management or self selecting out and when I see things like this where the leadership knows exactly what they're doing, Pat. You ran a very large insurance organization. You knew exactly what an incentive program or controls, or maybe it was an incentive program with some specific rules of performance. You knew who was going to say, oh man, I'm out before it even starts, and you knew who was in, right?
Starting point is 01:57:01 You absolutely know that as a leader. Well, that's what's going on here, and I think what they're doing is they're putting on these controls because they want some of this dead dinosaur flesh to just leave the organization but CNN you know what these are just small what is the mark what is that Rob can you can you tap in CNN top line revenue CNN top line revenue if it's public and I think it's cloaked within what they used to know
Starting point is 01:57:24 it is let's to call cable ops. One point series based on CNN Top Line Revenue based on available data, 1.8 billion, 2023. What is it in 2024? Can you tap in 2024? It ain't 1.8 anymore. No, for sure, but what is 2024? CNN Top Line Revenue.
Starting point is 01:57:40 Every year it's been going down. The search results indicate that CNN's annual revenue 2020 for 1.8 billion based on financial metrics, I don't think it's 1.8 billion. And can you, well they're not gonna show it, their EBITDA, that's, I mean the brand is a strong brand for the right, but it is gonna be such a massive, massive headache to manage to move forward with it.
Starting point is 01:58:03 But imagine the inventory of video content stuff that they have. And the infrastructure, but it's almost as if I wish I could. And it's almost like the leadership when we talk about the Democrats and Los Angeles and New York. It's like I wish I could just address their leadership and say, do your damn job. All these numbers, Tom, all the money, everything that is failing, is let them know you're supposed to run a news network, not a propaganda mill. Comma profitably.
Starting point is 01:58:30 Profitably. But you know what it is? People are sick and tired of your bullshit. You've been exposed. Trump exposed you with Jim Acosta when he said you're fake news and you're not adjusting. You have to adjust. Think about the old school people, Pat. Bernard Shaw, Larry King, Ted Turner, Walter Cronkite.
Starting point is 01:58:48 They had class. They had a message. They were doing something good. It's not hard. Stop hiring propaganda freaking activists with teleprompters. Report the news. Yes, have different opinions and have people say their points. But it's like, gee, like you guys aren't journalists anymore.
Starting point is 01:59:04 It's over. And then they're shocked. The world is like, jeez, like, you guys aren't journalists anymore. It's over. And then they're shocked. The world is like, wait, what the? Why are they failing? You guys know why they're failing, because they suck. They suck. That's why people are turning to podcasts, guess what? Like this one, where everybody has different opinions, but we're giving you facts.
Starting point is 01:59:19 We're fact checking in real time. Me and Adam go at it all the time. Tom and Adam go at it. Me and Pat, we don't agree with everything and that's why this shit is taking over and people like CNN are losing and they will not adjust. That's the worst thing. The ship keeps sinking and they're like, bring on another captain. It doesn't matter. Your ship is going down and the market is speaking up and that's it. Yeah, listen, if they can't save Scott Jennings, if right now, I'm being serious, if somebody wanted to destroy CNN, guess what?
Starting point is 01:59:57 Get Scott Jennings to run for office or do something. Scott Jennings leaves CNN. It's over. Somebody would buy them, but if you want a discount, here's how to get the discount. Say the company right now to buy is worth one and a half billion dollars. You ready for the crazy strategy?
Starting point is 02:00:13 One times revenue or something. You ready for the crazy strategy? Here's what I would do. I would, if I take Scott Jennings, give him a five year, $25 million contract to a company. You paid him $25 million. Then CNN's rating is going to drop 25%. Couple of the shows, it's going to drop 25%.
Starting point is 02:00:40 Main show is going to drop 25%. Then that $1.5 billion, now you can buy for 1.2 billion dollars. You pay 25 million dollars to save 275 million dollars. Step number one, get Scott Jennings out of CNN. Step number two, get yourself a 300 million dollar discount. That's how you would do it. Adam, go for it. You know what show on CNN gets a million viewers a night?
Starting point is 02:01:03 Do you know what show? None. None. You're absolutely right. We're the only major network of the three news outlets between Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN that doesn't have one show that gets a million viewers a night. This podcast, this little homegrown podcast
Starting point is 02:01:22 on Peabody Podcasts will likely get a million viewers, but not CNN. Their top ranked show, I believe, is Anderson Cooper. You can fact check this at somewhere around 700,000 viewers. Maybe a little bit more. I think that would be a big night for him during the week, by the way. To put that into perspective, the top shows on Fox News, I think the Five gets almost 4 million viewers.
Starting point is 02:01:46 I want to say Jesse Waters is hovering at 3, 3 1⁄2 viewers, 3 1⁄2 million viewers. Gutfeld also 3 1⁄2 million viewers. Even on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow is getting almost 2 million viewers. Here's the biggest problem with CNN. You got to pick a side. Everyone knows that Fox News is to the right. Everyone knows that.
Starting point is 02:02:10 They claim to be fair and balanced. Okay. Everyone knows that MSNBC is on the left. They don't even hide it. They're just like, if you have Trump derangement syndrome, come visit us here at MSNBC. The problem is news have gone so far from what Walter Cronkite once did and once basically stood for that everything is so tribal now. So CNN is stuck in the middle.
Starting point is 02:02:34 No, we're on, we're fair, we're balanced. No, we're anti-Trump. No, no, no. Now we're covering Trump favorably. They're beyond repair because they're not on one team. The days of being fair and balanced are over. You need to pick a side. And unfortunately, they've already picked their side and no one on the right trust them.
Starting point is 02:02:54 And people on the left don't trust them either anymore. But Adam, there has to be a reason why. Okay, I get the biases and Fox is right and CNN is left. But why is Fox Stripe like number one and kicking ass because yes, we know that they're conservative, but they're reporting facts They'll go back and forth and they'll have their opinions CNN lies CNN is propaganda. Okay, CNN is Been exposed and there's no coming back bro They get mind you think about it Abby Phillips show, people are tuning in
Starting point is 02:03:26 not to see Abby Phillips. Nobody wants, nobody gives a shit what she has to say. It's what Scott Jennings is gonna do to that entire panel of delusional leftists. And that's what it is. Say what people want about Fox. At least they're telling you how it is. And that's a reason that they're number one.
Starting point is 02:03:42 CNN will purposely push them shit like propaganda and they'll have all these activists from Jim Acosta who's doing Substack to Brian Stelter who they fire. And dude, when I tell you they can't get out of their own way, you hire Brian Stelter back. What the hell are you doing? If you fire somebody, bro, let him go.
Starting point is 02:04:02 He's the idiot. You're mostly right, Vinny. You're just not all the way right. To act like Fox doesn't have propagandists or activists. I didn't say that, but are they telling facts? Or ideologues would be indecisive. How are they number one, though? How are they number one?
Starting point is 02:04:16 They're just less worse than CNN. But they all have opinion shows. And in my opinion, any opinion show should say Hannity's opinion, Ingram's opinion, Tucker's opinion, Wolf Litzer's opinion. So people aren't smart enough to basically decipher what's fact and what's opinion. Are you ready for this? Like the Russia collusion thing? CNN not only knew it was fake, they took it and they ran with it and they pushed it.
Starting point is 02:04:44 All the lying with COVID and all that shit. You can't come back from that. We are not going to forget that shit. Putting the death tracker up there like they were proud of it during COVID, it's like, nah, bro, Fox doesn't do that. Fox never took a story like that, that new Hillary Clinton started and pushed that shit to divide us. They're never going to get that back. Again, you're mostly right. We are also going to have a hard time convincing the how much almost a billion dollars that Fox News you're not there yet. One of these days you'll be there.
Starting point is 02:05:12 You know what? I'm going to bust my butt. Pat, I promise you for the new year, I'm going to try to get there. According to Adam, you're not. All right. Let's one of these days. Let's put a period at the end of sentence to move on. And it was this Anderson Cooper makes $18 million a year.
Starting point is 02:05:27 $18 million a year Anderson Cooper makes. And the CFO who's going to be the CEO of all the cable nets. His name is Gunnar Gunnar Viedenfels is looking for ways to cut cost. So they have said apparently they said on the 12th and I missed it, but they spoke to the puck newsletter and they leaked. Well, Anderson and news has an uncertain future at CNN given the $18 million contract cost. So guess what? He's either going to get bought out called take your medicine. Now you give them a payout or they got to negotiate it because is Anderson Cooper at 18 million worth six Caitlin Collins at three? No. Nope. She's
Starting point is 02:06:09 not even worth that. I'm just saying economically speaking and by the way... Why'd he get Tom upset on his birthday? There's rumors in media land that she's not as liberal as she portrays to be that she's like more moderate But she assumed this this political You know position on the number line of liberal versus conservative and it has served her career well But deep inside she's a little bit more moderate So we will see and when I say she's not worth the three, I'm talking about the economics of the
Starting point is 02:06:47 moment. So you're saying she's making money on her show or not. But could she be worth more than that to somebody? Maybe she ain't worth the food stamps. And at death row at CNN, I hear she's getting treated like a boot camp. Gotta follow the sergeant's direction, Tom. get your ass. I'll stop right there guys. We watched straight out of Compton the other day. Let's stay focused guys. Okay. Armenian Prime Minister Pashinyan meets Erdogan in Turkey on historic visit. This is according to France 24 story. Armenian Prime Minister Pashinyan met with Erdogan to recap in Istanbul on Friday
Starting point is 02:07:25 for an in-depth talk lasting over an hour at Dolmabahit Palace discussing the Armenia-Turkey normalization process and a regional peace. Pashinyan's government described the visit as a historic step with both leaders addressing potential steps to be taken with the framework of the normalization process between Turkey and Armenia, per Erdogan's office. Pashinyan posted on X about their in-depth exchange and reaffirmed Armenia's commitment to building peace and stability in our region.
Starting point is 02:07:54 The leaders discussed Armenia's peace negotiations with Azerbaijan, with Erdogan stressing the significance of the consensus reached in those talks according to the office, relations remain strained due to the World War I era mass killings of Armenians which Yerevan calls genocide, a term Turkey rejects and Turkey's support for Azerbaijan in its conflict with Armenia. So this is the part where when you hear a story like this on what's going on with Armenia trying to have the meeting with Turkey, great. So what's step number one? Have the meeting. What's step number two?
Starting point is 02:08:37 How do you handle yourself in that meeting? How do you negotiate? What leverages do you have? What insurance policies do you have? What insurance policies do you have? What ace do you have up your sleeve if it goes wrong? Who has your back? Does Russia have your back? Are you establishing relationships with people in the U.S. to get closer to them?
Starting point is 02:08:55 Or because you are getting so close but everybody there, you're not, you're kind of worried about if you get too close to the U.S., Russia's not going to be happy because you're on the border with them. Erdogan's not going to be happy. You have to kind of get stronger with the bricks. You know, but he's in a very interesting place. There are certain Armenians who watch Pashinyan and another man that's a sweet man. I think he was a journalist before, what he did before he became the PM. And the level of strength to be able to do all the negotiations, the deals that are being
Starting point is 02:09:25 done. When you go to Erdogan, imagine a follow-up, and suddenly Pashinyan comes out and says, well look, in order for us to have peace, we have to all agree that the Armenian genocide never happened. And we have to call it a different word. Do you know what would happen if he does that? So imagine Pashinyan agrees to change the verbiage of a genocide never happened. Now here's the thing, who has leverage in this meeting between Erdogan and Pashinyan?
Starting point is 02:09:47 Erdogan has the leverage, okay? Do you think, Tom, when Erdogan is sitting with Pashinyan, do you think Erdogan sits there and says, hey, what are the chances, Tom, do you think Erdogan would suggest, I think moving forward, you guys got to stop saying genocide, genocide, genocide. War, yes. Mass killings, yes. You got to stop saying genocide. genocide, genocide. War, yes. Mass killings, yes. You got to stop saying genocide. You can't say that anymore. Do you think Erdogan is going to be resolved and strong about that phrase needing to be changed?
Starting point is 02:10:13 RK I think so because they want to basically put that history behind them. they don't want to have like a grand admission of something right now which sort of takes that history and you know it it explodes again. You know if I was president here in the United States, I've told you this before, we would have a Armenian genocide remembrance day on the calendar Armenian genocide remembrance day on the calendar because of the rich history and contributions the Armenian Americans have made to America where America is not a race, is not a language, it's all of us and I would recognize their contributions or recognize that. That tension lives here because Turkey's got
Starting point is 02:11:03 the largest military in the Middle East and like one of the top 10 militaries in the world. And they're strategically significant and they've had US bases. So you've had all these US presidents saying, we probably shouldn't say the, you know, the G word with the Turks because we got all these bases and we needed these bases there, you know, especially the Air Force bases, because it was strategically significant in the Cold War versus Russia because of the geographic location of Turkey. So Erdogan's kind of playing those cards because for decades, they've been able to get US presidents not to push to say the G word.
Starting point is 02:11:40 And because they've been able to play the card, well, there's strategic significance here. Why do you want to kick all my people in the teeth? Why do you want to do this that happened so long ago? So it's so long ago. Can't we get past it? And can we just refer to it as part of the horror of World War One? Can we just say that Turkey and Armenia had a moment World War One? It was just part of the horrors of World War One.
Starting point is 02:12:02 And I think that's what Erdogan was going to want. I don't think he's going to want to accept the word and therefore accept responsibility and therefore accept the narrative. This is going to sound weird. Do you think Pashinyan is as much of a true believer in the history of Armenia as Netanyahu is a true believer in Israel. I don't know enough about him to make an assessment. What do you think? I don't know either, but let me tell you something. If you're a proud Jew from Israel and you're seeing the support for Netanyahu increasing during this tension that they're having.
Starting point is 02:12:48 Do you like a guy that is Israel first? Do you like that Trump is America first? Is Pashinyan Armenia first? Is he Pashinyan first? I don't know what he is first. I don't know. But when you go into these rooms, like if I send you an insurance, we'd give you 20 appointments,
Starting point is 02:13:08 and I would send you into rooms. And you go sit at the kitchen table with the husband and wife, let's just say we knew they were qualified, they were ultra high net, or whatever you wanna call it. I would judge you on if you close the deals or not. I would say, nah, he's not a closer. Then I would try Tom. I'm like, no, Tom closes.
Starting point is 02:13:23 Moving forward, I'm gonna send Tom in those meetings When we send Trump in meetings, do you think time that Trump's a closer? I don't know I don't know if Pashinyan is a closer. Maybe he is maybe he's not we know Erdogan's a closer Oh, yeah, you don't have to like him. You think he's turkey first of he's 100% turkey first So to me, I don't know if Pashinyan has the same swag when he walks in and somebody may say well They're small though though Israel is small Netanyahu acts big he built some strong alliances can Pashinyan do that? Does Armenia need a leader like that? Maybe maybe not anyways gang as usual it's been great hanging out with you guys we will most like but by the way in the room we're in right now the AC works so good
Starting point is 02:14:02 here. It's cool it's's freaking, we're almost freezing. I asked Rob, can you guys grab me a jacket because of how freaking cold it is here. Andres is naked. I don't know, they can't even see. He's not even wearing any clothes. But anyways, guys, it is so cold here that through Zoom, Adam is even cold. That's how cold it is if you look at Adam right there with, that's right, Adam. You're being very decision-sensitive. Adam is even cold. That's how cold is if you look at Adam right there with yes right Adam. Listen I hope you know this how much we appreciate you and we know without you it's just the four of us talking. But you know what's crazy about this? Even if the camera is not on, if you ever see us going to dinner without any
Starting point is 02:14:41 cameras on, we have just as much fun with the camera on versus camera off. It's the same exact energy when we're together. This is just how we are. We're always talking, debating, talking shit, laughing. It's the same culture that we have, but wouldn't happen what we've been able to do here without you. We want you to know whether you agree with us, disagree with us. We get people that get on that can't stand us.
Starting point is 02:15:03 We get people that get on that like what we have to say, and we get people that get on that want to see a different perspective. Either way, we appreciate every single one of you guys. We're grateful for you. God bless. Have a great day. We'll do it again on Thursday. Take care everybody.
Starting point is 02:15:15 Bye bye, bye bye.

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