PBD Podcast - Trump DEFENDS Musk, Putin Requests Meeting, Netanyahu To Occupy Gaza & Stern CANCELLED | PBD Podcast | Ep. 626

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Trump defending Elon Musk, Putin requesting a meeting to discuss ending the Ukraine war, Netanyahu’s plan to occupy Gaza..., and the cancellation of The Howard Stern Show.------💻 REGISTER FOR PBD'S FREE WEBINAR: "20 THREATS BUSINESSES CAN'T IGNORE IN 2025" | AUGUST 16TH @ 6PM | REGISTER: https://bit.ly/3V0dvSu ☀️ VT FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT SUMMER COLLECTION: ⁠https://bit.ly/4lcDlwU⁠🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/40lR90L⁠⁠⁠ 📕PRE-ORDER SCOTT'S BOOK "A REVOLUTION OF COMMON SENSE": ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3UzdC73⁠⁠⁠🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/40lR90L ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 we're ready Rob I'm going to send this to you Pat also Putin and Trump meeting I have a video of Putin being asked who called for the meeting and he were Thank you. 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed to taste sweet with dirty. I know this life man for me. All right. So, guys, if you're tuning in with us, episode number of rap, what number are we on right now? 626. 626. Adams made a request for us to move the podcast to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I'm not with them. I can't do it. Last night, we're at the award ceremony. Ph.B, you know, we're at MGM Grand. the places off the charts. Ray Lewis crushed it. Coach K told a story that I have to share with you guys. Shout out to Coach K.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I don't know if you know what story I'm talking about, the bus story. I have to tell that story. And we're there nearly 10. It's probably our second best big event we ever had. The best one I would say was the one with Kobe, the late Kobe, President Bush, you know, all that event that we had. But this is what everybody looked like last night.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Look at this, Rob. Can you pull up this picture? Ladies, be careful. No, look at these studs. Look at the studs in the middle. Dilly boy. He says, Dylan, Dylan's got the look where it's like, ladies, I've graduated. Yes, I now know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Tico looks like he's connected to the mob with his hairdo. By the way, Daddy did that hair. If he can zoom in a little bit. Great hair here, Tico. Look at Tico, bro. That right there. Tom to the right. And then we have who Vinny looking like a sex machine.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Absolutely. And then zoom out and those eyes could talk, zoom out, zoom out, zoom out, zoom out. Don't get me some of that. Look at my tail. Tail and the dark shirts. and Adam looks like he's 15 years away from 60. That's what it looks like. But we had a good time.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And we've got a lot of stories to go through. Some bad news for Howard Stern. I don't know if you guys heard that. The future doesn't look bright for him. No, it's tough. ESPN is inking a deal with NFL to acquire NFL network, Red Zone Channel. And there is equity in exchange. It's a very interesting thing that's going on here on how they're doing it, the 10% deal.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Tom is going to break the whole thing down for you guys. an almost tragic story where a sergeant shoots five soldiers in his unit at Fort Stewart before getting stopped. The five folks got injured, but I don't think anybody died. Correct. Let's hope. Yeah. As of right now, everything seems to be fine, but we'll talk about that. Trump threatens to federalize D.C.
Starting point is 00:03:45 After attack on Doge Staffer. Now, a lot of people don't want that on the liberal side. And you have to realize, D.C. mayor, since 1974, 100% of the United States. all the mayors they've had, have all been Democrats. You've had some 51 years to fix the city. You haven't. The president's finally putting his foot down and saying, we're going to do something about it. So maybe there's going to be an opening there. Adam's guy who used to party with back in the days. It just broke a story yesterday. Hunter Biden claims Epstein. My boy. Was murdered in latest unhinged interview. He's doing a lot of unhinged interviews. I wouldn't be surprised if
Starting point is 00:04:22 Netflix or somebody signs a contract with him to do a podcast because he says some weird stuff and he gets eyeballs. Murdoch to provide health updates in Trump's deal to delay Epstein case deposition. Trump says he will probably not seek a third term. You have to see he gives two names of who he thinks could be president. U.S. trade deficit hits nearly a two-year low in June. Chip gap plunges. New Hampshire first new state.
Starting point is 00:04:48 We didn't talk about that. This time we're going to get into it. The 996 work schedule could be coming to your workplace soon. The 996 is working from 9 to 9, 6 days a week. And some people are worried about it. That's a Forbes story that turns into a liberal magazine nowadays. Used to be a capitalist magazine. Now it's the worst place to go if you're an entrepreneur, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And China's mouthpiece. That's right. We're going to talk about Jack. By the way, the new guy that bought it, he bought 75% of it at $800 million, and he's a billionaire here, so he bought it away from China. So I don't think China owns it anymore like they did before, although they probably have some influence. Indian components found in Russian drones used for Putin's war.
Starting point is 00:05:29 We'll talk about that. Trump moves a nuclear wheel. We didn't react to it last time. Netanyahu believes occupying Gaza is the only way to save the hostages, but it will also start bloodiest phase of the year, yet experts warn. Vinny's favorite story. So we'll definitely go to that. global outbreak
Starting point is 00:05:50 fear search as virus in China prompts quarantines and thousands of new cases are reported and Anthony Fauci may be making a comeback. That last part is not part of the story but who know? You never know. Hawke Hogan's daughter sparks conspiracy theories over her father's death
Starting point is 00:06:07 as friend cries foul play meaning maybe the current wife is involved is what they're saying. Elon Musk is officially the most unpopular figure in America who was the other guy number two? I don't want to say we'll get to it, but he's the most unpopular figure in America, and they ask President Trump about it, and he has actually very nice things to say about it. Trump closes an additional $100 billion with Apple for a total of $600 billion.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Kennedy cancels nearly $500 million in a RNA vaccine contracts. Stress adults, folks, I swear to God, if you're one of these stressed adults that watches this podcast, go home. Go watch something else. I'm begging you. If this story is true, and you're watching this. right now with a SOSCA in your mouth. Some of you guys don't know what SOSCA is.
Starting point is 00:06:53 SOSCA is, if you're Armenian, if you're Russian, please in the comment section, tell everybody what SOSCA means. You know what a SOSCA means. Kaiser SOSCA? No, this is a very different SOSCA. No. Stressed adults rely on pacifiers, aka SOSCas, to soothe themselves, I feel a sense of safety from childhood.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Are you free? Is this like a joke? Rob, I'm like, this is not a Babylon. or an onion story. This is a New York Post story. Adults are going around with soskas. Rob, take your suss got out of your mouth. That is ridiculous. Trump plans to sit down with Putin and Zelensky in the first meeting between leaders since Ukraine war began. Putin was asked, who prompted the meeting? You have to see the answer. Very interesting. And by the way, some sad news for MSNBC and CNN listeners and viewers. They lost 40% of viewers compared to last
Starting point is 00:07:44 year. Heartbreaking. We were concerned about it, but we just kind of wanted to give him a shout out. So I think, you know, some people should go support them. There's nothing wrong with that. You should go out and watch some of that. By the way, I still think when Jennings is on, I want to hear what he has to say. And then Vinny sees a video with these three African-American kids in Dallas, Walgreens, with the way they're behaving. I'm going to show you guys a video from 1986 with their interview on black mothers. And you have to see what the stats was back then.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And this is the whole idea of what bad policies destroyed great communities in a mess. major, major way. We'll show you that clip. I can't wait to share that clip with you because I think it's unbelievable. Anyways, having said that, every year, folks, there's threats. When you're in business, when you're building your business, whatever you're doing. This year, we are releasing our annual Top 20 Threat Report coming up at a free webinar on August 19, 6 p.m. with a white paper that will be given to everybody. These are threats that we personally go through ourselves. We now have grown our business the last couple of years from 20 employees, 30 employees to now 164, full-time employees.
Starting point is 00:08:53 This is not ICs. This is not independent contractors. I'm talking that's on the Valuetainment side. And then on the PHB side, we're dealing with a complete different threats. So we're simply taking all of those threats and we're sharing it with you to be ready with it. Some of it is evergreen threats. Some of it is emerging green. Some of it is black swan threats.
Starting point is 00:09:10 But it's things that you need to know about. So if you haven't yet registered for this, I think I'm saying this for the first time today, but maybe you've seen some of the ads other places. Go to vtwebinar.com. Again, vtwebinar.com, sign up for it. Anybody that's on there at the end of it, we will give the white paper of the 20 threats to all of you. Again, go to vtwebinar.com, register for it,
Starting point is 00:09:37 and we'll share it with you. Tons of great information. Be ready. Tune in. Thank you, Tom. Having said that, let me share with you guys what Coach Kay said last night. I think it's important for everybody to be thinking about this. last night as a consultant I'm giving this message to everybody and I was thinking about the entire time what should I share so I gave 150 pictures over the years of what we've done and I found one of Tom's favorite pictures I'm telling history stuff that we're laughing we're going through it's a great story but one of the things was that all of us in life yesterday we're having breakfast the conversation we have with Adam I don't know if you remember that conversation I do remember that conversation I do remember that conversation
Starting point is 00:10:16 sir yeah incredible conversation we had is how do you measure a man like what is a man if i ask you what is a man not the chromosome man not the funny stuff that we're talking about what is a woman no no i'm not talking about that game i'm talking about what how do you measure a man wouldn't you look at a man and say man that's a man's man's man what does a man's man's need to do to be a man there's levels in life there's levels in wealth there's levels in sports there's levels in greatness there's there's levels in being a man and unfortunately a lot of times, especially nowadays, you know, we are living in an era where the same way women are kind of going through the era of what? I don't need a man. I don't need this. J-Lo just said
Starting point is 00:10:57 something last night. She said after being married five times or whatever, I have decided, I'm choosing me. I'm choosing me. You're choosing you? What are you choosing, bro? How do you? This is it. After four divorces and six different engagements, 56-year-old singer, Jennifer Lopez, that she's done with marriage and she's choosing herself, right? And oh my God, she's so amazing. Good for you for choosing you. Good for you for doing this. There's nothing more unattractive than a single woman in her 50s that's wealthy.
Starting point is 00:11:29 No one's interested. Nobody is. Maybe a 22-year-old that wants to come marry and get half your wealth five years later. But people are not interested. But this is like this new era. I don't need a man. I can do my own thing. And for men, guess what men are going through?
Starting point is 00:11:43 Screw you. You want to do this? I don't want any responsibilities. Don't give me any responsibilities. I'm going to choose me too. So who wins? You know who wins? The enemy wins.
Starting point is 00:11:53 The enemy is another country. The enemy is another denomination. The enemy is another philosophy, ideology that doesn't match with the Western ideology that became the greatest country in the world. It doesn't match with freedom of speech. It doesn't match with freedom of assembly. It doesn't match with freedom of religion.
Starting point is 00:12:09 It just doesn't. So men are sitting there going on a strike. Screw you. I'm choosing me too. Now what? And so neither one of them are right. So the whole idea of men, we measure men based on more responsibilities they carry. What they do for their family, what they do for their kids, what they do for their communities, what they do for their state, for their country, for their church. That's a man's man. There's layers to it, right? So last night I talked about the six levels we all go through. Number one is we're lost. Number two, somebody finds us and believes in us and says, hey, I believe in you. I think you can do X, Y, Z. Maybe you find God. Maybe you find church. Maybe you find a good influence in your life.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Number three, you finally commit. I'm going to choose to change my life. Number four, lifestyle changes. You're living a better lifestyle. You're living a better place. You're living a better place. You're feeling good about yourself. And in phase number five, if you can skip it good for you.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Phase number five is when you get bored, when you get entitled, when you get ungrateful, when you forget about all the people that helped you. Like, no one helped me. I did all this for myself. and finally hopefully go to phase number six which is choosing legacy choosing history choosing to do something big with your life and coach k is speaking on stage
Starting point is 00:13:20 I'm listening to this man walking up you know him and I are talking and I'm you know if you ever see me taking pictures with guy I'm touching his shoulders I'm like holy moly coach kay you got some traps it's like who the hell is this guy like putting his arms all around me all this stuff I'll post the story on the Instagram afterwards he's on stage he says when he was when he was a young man
Starting point is 00:13:39 10 years old or something playing basketball his mom tells him a story and it's the story of bus he says mom i want to go play leave me alone he says no michael specifically said michael not michael michael stay here i have to tell you the story what's that in life you better get on the right bus he says mom which bus are you talking about i got to go play basketball because coach kay ended up playing at one point for bobby bobby bowden no who no bobby knight bobby knight did you know that yeah i think in the military that's right because he was in the Army. Yeah, correct. So he said, what are you talking about with the bus? He says, if you're going to get on someone's bus, you better choose the right bus. And if you're going to be the driver on your bus,
Starting point is 00:14:19 you better choose a lot of people to get on your bus. If you allow the wrong people to get on your bus, life will be destroyed. And if you get on the wrong bus, your life will be destroyed. So for you watching this right now, before we get into all these stories, I don't want to say this at the end. Normally, I would say that at the end, but I just want to open it up with this monologue. it's amazing what can happen to anyone one of our lives if you choose to have the right people in your ear and if you choose to raise your standards. It's one of the hardest things to do as young men.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Men nowadays are afraid of responsibilities. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 1.59 child birth per woman. No, no, no, I don't want any responsibilities. But that's not what a leader does. That's not what a man's man does. That's not what a man that wants to be looked back later on when they come to your funeral, they're looking at you saying, Molly, this man changed my life. This is my father. Men are sitting there. Women are sitting
Starting point is 00:15:09 at your funeral saying, I am so proud to have had a relationship with this person. And that kind of a person only happens when you choose to make a decision in your life. And it's not easy to do. It's very hard to do. But I just want to open up with that. Do whatever you want with the story. Last night was just a very special night for me. I've been in this business for 25 years in the financial insurance business. Most of you guys only know me as a podcast or you don't know what I do on the business side, I'm meeting with all these CEOs that are running multibillion-dollar insurance companies, all these different conversations, the industry changed our lives. But if it's the right person watching this, if this message resonated with you, graduate
Starting point is 00:15:44 from loss to found to commit it, and then try to skip the entitled, the board, the no one helped me out, I did it all myself, the lack of gratitude phase, and pursue legacy and history, because great things are around the corner. I do believe the future looks bright. I'm convinced the future looks bright Every time I say the future looks bright It's amazing half the people in the world Want to convince me that it doesn't look bright
Starting point is 00:16:06 But it's unfair you don't know You're only saying that's because you have money I said that when I was broke $49,000 in debt and I had nothing And I said the future looks bright I don't know why I said the future looks bright It's a mentality, it's a mindset that every one of us can have That's what we believe in
Starting point is 00:16:23 That's what our brand's all about Yesterday a guy comes up to me one of these insurance executive I saw your son selling a shoe that says future looks bright I said yeah so what are you going to sell next I said what do you mean what am I going to say you're saying it as if it's bad to sell something and he kind of got checked real quick
Starting point is 00:16:40 I'm like you sell life insurance bro I've been proud to sell life insurance my entire life but I respect anybody that sells anything we're at a podcast that they sold us this place and guess what they have so many people working here it's like over preparation for us I typically I'm like trying to get focused on what I'm doing. Do you guys need this? Do you guys need that?
Starting point is 00:16:59 Like, holy shit. Like unreasonable hospitality. These guys are on steroids here. But they're selling themselves. I freaking love it. This is what business and life is all about. You ought to be proud of it. Whatever you're doing, if you're going to be industrious, be proud of what you're doing. Anyways, I don't want to go on a rant because I want to go into the stories. But last night was a very, very special night. For anybody that was there, love you guys. What a historic night. I'm going to post some of the pictures. We got so many great stories from last night. crushed it, and congratulations to Chris and Vesina Hart. I'm just going to mention that.
Starting point is 00:17:32 They were on fire. You got to give a shout-out to the heart. Can I ask you just one quick follow up on this? By the way, what a family. Amazing night. Shout out to Ph.P. Shout out to Integrity. Shout out to Chris Hart,
Starting point is 00:17:41 who won the MVP, I believe. Shout out to Zapala. Burgas is earned. Here's my question for you on these six phases that we all go through. We've all been lost. We all found. We get some place where we're going. We get committed.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Then you get the lifestyle. And lifestyle creep sets in. all right, I get a nicer car, I get a nicer clothes. To me, the biggest challenge is... Some people get nicer cars. That's true. Maybe you get a nicer Uber, black, Uber black. Yeah, but go ahead.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Better Uber's. They get a driver's license, then they get... Better friends. Yes. But to me, phase five is where reality sets it. And where it's like, all right, I've made some money. I've done some things. Yep.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And it's natural, maybe a week or two, a month. All right. Yep. How do you avoid going into, you know, I'm the man kind of vibe now, and get back to work? You know, who's the first people you don't want to be around when you're going through that phase of boredom, ungrateful, entitled, arrogant, rebellion, like, everything's about you. You know who the people you hate the most in those seasons?
Starting point is 00:18:36 You know who are the people you hate the most? Tell me. The people that will tell you the truth. The people that are checking you in the heart. You cannot stand the high standard people. All you want to do is be surrounded by people that I want to flatter you. And flattery is one of the worst drugs in the world. It's deception.
Starting point is 00:18:51 It's manipulation. It's gamingification. It's finding a way to divide between you and high standards. whether it's your wife who doesn't want you to work too hard, whether it's your girlfriend, whether it's your brother, whether it's your sibling, whether it's your best friend that still wants you to party, he doesn't want you to go and become a family, man,
Starting point is 00:19:06 because he's going to lose you at the nightclub. I'll never forget a friend of mine, Devin. I absolutely love Devin. Until today, I think about that guy. I can tell you his phone number, I can tell you his birthday. The only guy that when I was in the army, the only guy, when I came back, I stayed with him for 18 days. I lived at his place for 18 days.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Baharians, Devin, whoever sends you this video, I love you. I work with this guy at Burger King 30 years ago. 30 years ago, yeah, no, maybe 31 years ago. I worked with my Burger King, me, Devin and Kogan.
Starting point is 00:19:35 And Devine was the drive-thru guy, legendary drive-thru guy. He was a good drive-thru man. He was fast. What do you mean, the drive-thru? He was driving. The guy you would come and buy something. If you work at Burger King,
Starting point is 00:19:45 your drive-thru, that's a promotion. Wow. Eddie, who was our manager, never gave me the drive-thru job. I said, Eddie, he says, you're just a chef. You're the CEO of burger flipping. I would do whopper, no onion.
Starting point is 00:19:57 That was me, right? So let me be a cashier. He says, you talk to people too much. I was the biggest chef they had an intention to call myself chef. Yes. I was a chef. Chef David at Burger King, right? Every one day calls me, he used to party a lot together.
Starting point is 00:20:12 He calls me. He says, hey, Pat, I said, what's up? He says, hey, man, you ain't coming to the clubs anymore. I says, yeah, bro, I'm done. He says, what are you doing right now? I said, I'm studying stocks. It's Saturday night. I'm sorry, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:20:24 I'm studying stocks, trying to see what to do. I'm trying to get my securities, all this other stuff. He says, Pat, we're going to the club tonight. Come with us. I says, I have no interest. He says, Pat, let's go to the club. We're going to have a good time. I said, Devin, I'm not coming to the club. We had gone to a party with one of my friends, Armin, bless his sore, and another guy named Messrop. He'll remember this.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Messrop, Armin, and Devin should remember this. We're at a club. We went to see a girl. She was there. We said hi. Some stupid things happened there. Again, this is not the club. This is the party in Burbank.
Starting point is 00:20:52 up in Angelino. I don't know of some of the people from their notes. Close to the what is the spot at top of Burbank, Tom,
Starting point is 00:20:58 that place that was the makeout place. Cast away. No, no, say it. Cast away. Yeah, Cassaway. Tom. Glenndale.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Tom, what was it? I don't know. I was always up at the top. Were you necking on the bag? I told Devine. Getting a parking ticket. Something happened that night.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I said, I'm done. I have no desire to be here. I moved on. Devin calls me. He says, I miss the old pat. I will never forget that phone call. When he says,
Starting point is 00:21:22 Pat, I missed the old pat. The fat they used to party. Yes. And for a split second, I was like, damn, that hurt. And then I was shell-shocked. And if he remembers this, he's probably going to text me. If he remembers this, I said, I don't miss the old pan. That's what matters.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I am done. Period. Until you're not too, this doesn't mean we can't reminisce. This doesn't mean we can't laugh. This doesn't mean we can't sit there and talk about the stories. But I didn't miss the old pan. I had seen my dad that almost died. Life was changing quickly.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Chaos everywhere. I have not a single penny to my name. And you want me to go and party to do what? With people that just want to do ecstasy, roll, drink water at 2 o'clock. We go to naked, then we go to this other club. I'm out. I was done. And life change.
Starting point is 00:22:08 So for you, when you're going through that phase, the hardest thing about going through the ungrateful board entitled phase is having people around you that tell you what you want to hear versus what you need to hear. The people that are around you that tell you what you need to are the most annoying people in the world are the most annoying people in the world. There's scripture tells us, Tom,
Starting point is 00:22:26 I'm going to paraphrase this, that a kiss from an enemy versus the truth from a friend. You can find this, Rob. There is, faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful. And the wounds of a friend are sharp words of truth.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yes. So guess what? you want that that's tough that that is so hard and unfortunately i've been that guy for a lot of people and most of the time they don't like it but it's not changing because we got a big vision of what we want to do very simple this is why so many athletes get those possees which is old friends and everybody and their new contract and it all ends in tears because they get wiped out they're buying stuff no one's there to help them build structure and if they get a good coach. They talk about Dean Smith. They talk about coach Sheshefsky. How many players have talked about the influence of that college coach. Change my life. Changed this. That's right. In a big way.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Okay. So, are you going to say? I was just going to say like just really fast. When I was sitting there yesterday with Adam and I'm looking at this list because everything in my head, I'm like, how does this apply to me? And then when I saw loss, I go, huh, lost, L.A. Friends passed away. COVID. Life was going down. Found. I found you. I found you on. I saw the picture of you. And I saw David, I go, who the, my cousin's, Mike's name is David, click, boom, found. And then came here, lifestyle change, gave myself to Christ, stop drinking. I'm, and by the way, I was nervous because I was like, am I bored and entitled? I go, no, I'm not in the board entitled, but now it's the legacy.
Starting point is 00:24:00 You can graduate that. You can graduate that, you can never even hit it. That's what I'm saying is. In my mind, I'm like, wait, meaning I was bored of who I, like, I wanted to recreate myself, but I'm like, I wasn't entitled to anything. So when I saw it, I was like, holy crap, that's for, everybody has to go through. it. Yeah, no, I mean, listen. That's what I'm saying. Your commitment stage is one of the most inspiring things
Starting point is 00:24:19 I ever seen. My oldest son is on the other side and Tico, wherever you are, I think you're somewhere here with us. He loves bow ties. He's in the back. He's trying to get a job over here. He kind of likes these guys a lot. There's Tico back there. Putting no ties in a shredder. Yesterday, they're coming back and it's 12 o'clock and, you know, they left a little bit or 11 o'clock. You guys are leaving.
Starting point is 00:24:37 What did Tico tell you? We're in the car. Rod. Can you put up that picture with him in the bowtie? Watch this. So I'm putting up the bowtie and he's like sick and I told him, Tico, I'm doing this tight. Tell me, this is a story only him and Dillon. I said, Tico, I'm doing a bowtie tight. Look how sick it is. No, it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I said, as your voice changed? And he goes like this, it's not tight. I said, you sure it's not tight? And what does he say last night? We're in the car going back, me, Jen, and Rob, and then I'm like, man, I got to get to the room. I got to prep for the podcast and pack because we're leaving. And then Tico goes, just like this.
Starting point is 00:25:09 He goes, I'm going to get back to the room. I'm going to take off this bow tie, and I'm going to set it on fire. He hates bowtimes. Dude, I asked him if he likes bowtize. He said he does. Hang on, Tico. It's a non-small. Look at that face.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Make it look good. Tico, man. I will tell you, I'm proud of that guy, man. Yeah. Well, listen. I'm proud of that guy. He's an inch away from being Tom's height at 13 years old.
Starting point is 00:25:34 He's going places. And possibly smarter than Tom. Yeah, well, that's a bit. That's a big leap. It's a little just taller than me. Yeah. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:41 So let's get into some of the stories. And one story I want to get into is, Howard Stern. We are going to get into the story with D.C. right after this one, but let me start off with Howard Stern. Howard Stern's show, to be canceled after nearly 20 years on Series XM as $100 million contract is up this year. Okay. So let me read this story. Is this Trump's reaction to it? Yes. He was asked about this at the White House yesterday. Go for it. Play it. I've got an entertainment-based question for you. A few weeks ago, Stephen Colbert announced that he was leaving his show.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Howard Stern announced that he had been in serious XM radio or parting ways. Do you think the hate Trump business model that's been in the entertainment business is going out of business because it's not popular with the American people? Well, it hasn't worked, and it hasn't worked really for a long time.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And I would say pretty much from the beginning, Colbert has no talent. I mean, I could take anybody here, I could go outside and the beautiful streets and pick a couple of people that do, just as well or better. They get higher ratings than he did. He's got no talent. Fallon has no talent. Kimmel has no talent. They're next. They're going to be going. I hear they're going to be going. I don't know, but I would imagine because they'd get, you know, Colbert has better ratings
Starting point is 00:26:55 than Kimmel or Fallon. You know that. Howard Stern, it's the name I haven't heard. I used to do a show. We used to have fun, but I haven't heard that name in a long time. What happened? He got terminated. Yeah, they're in a separate way because I think what they're off from salary-wise is real low than what he's getting down. You know when he went down? whenever you want you know when he went down no before when he endorsed Hillary Clinton he lost his audience people said give me a break he went down when he endorsed Hillary Clinton Mr. President so let me give you numbers here Tom I'm going to come to you sources telling the U.S. son that Howard Stern latest five-year contract valued at $8,200 million
Starting point is 00:27:34 annually up in the fall and Series XM does not intend to meet his salary demands series and Stern are never going to meet on the money he is going to want it's no longer worth the investment one insider said though they expect series to strike a deal for stern's catalog upon his exit the decision follows financial concerns with another source referencing the high cost after what happened with stephen cobert 71 years old they're moving on tom what's going on here well you know once again this is fun with headlines right pat and it's so it's set to be canceled they didn't say they're counseling it The Sun headline is it's set to be canceled.
Starting point is 00:28:11 What do they mean? The contract is expiring. That's it. And so that's it. The guy is 71 years old? That's right. So there's three things. Actually, there's four things going on.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Number one, he's 71 years old, and he's increasingly out of touch with the audience that's there. Second, he is a hard left liberal and hard left shows have not done well. Moderate and conservative shows do better than hard left. That's just a fact. Third, serious, like many of the other. platforms out there and three-letter platforms like CNN that have been trimming people's contact we saw all this stuff yeah right people getting contracts canceled getting you know escorted off the air and and said well you know it's not really audience no it is and colbert
Starting point is 00:28:55 losing 40 million dollars so reason number three old media platforms can't afford the contracts they put in if anybody knows about the a rod contract and how it went from Seattle to Texas to New York. A. Rod was a gifted athlete, but the contract that was made at the time ended up being too rich for the economics of the game. That's the economics of the game. And number four, the fourth thing is that Stern still thinks that he's worth this in his head. So it's hard for people, the talent gets in denial because your contract is the validation of your persona. And taking a lower value contract is really difficult for a lot of athletes and a lot of celebrities, which leads to the statement at the bottom that Sirius may say, okay, well, we'll
Starting point is 00:29:43 just buy your catalog. How many times have we seen music labels buying the entire Michael Jackson or the Beatles catalog? And then they work with the big three, Sirius, Apple Music, and Pandora, and then they just cultivate that catalog forever. So that's what's going on with Howard Stern. He's not going to be canceled. It's more like it's going to be a non-renewal for the money he wants, and it's a sign of old
Starting point is 00:30:07 big contracts just are not happening again in the media landscape. The new media landscape is the podcast. It's not the linear and serious. It's got serious issues economically because it's kind of a walled garden. Yeah. Vinny, your thought. Yeah. And listen, it's just really sad because, I mean, if you guys remember, Howard Sternwell, this guy was a pioneer and Rob could attest because Rob was in radio. Pioneer and radio, he'd be doing
Starting point is 00:30:31 sketches live and yeah, he did some crazy stuff. He did blackface. He did some really racist stuff where a lot of people, you know, got to away with this, especially if you were on the left. But it's like, I'm truly happy that all of these leftist, unfunny Democrats are all get, their political hacks to me, they're all getting canned from, from, you know, he's going by-bye, Howard Stern, Jim Acosta, you know, Joy Reid, Stephen Colbert, Wuppie and all them are taking this break. But it's like they've mocked Americans for how long.
Starting point is 00:30:58 They've pushed propaganda and now they're getting flushed out one at a time. And let's not forget who Howard Stern was. Rob, you have these two clips of what he said. This is for all the people out there that are supporting Trump You just leaned one way politically This is what he had to say about all the people That voted for Trump Don't agree with Trump politically
Starting point is 00:31:15 I don't think he should be anywhere near the White House I don't hate the guy I hate the people who vote for him I think you're stupid I don't think I do I'll be honest with you I have no respect for you And guess what
Starting point is 00:31:24 That type of rhetoric And I imagine remember you said about the bad policies Pat this whole attitude This resentment this hey You're gonna alienate Half of the freaking country You hate us You don't even hate Trump
Starting point is 00:31:35 You hate us for what? Because we don't want to think like the status quo. And then what about the vaccine? Remember what he said about vaccine? Rob, play this clip about what he said about people that aren't vaccinated. Anyone unvaccinated would not be admitted to a hospital. At this point, they've been given
Starting point is 00:31:50 plenty of opportunity to get the vaccine. They don't trust our government. They think that there's some conspiracy to turn them into a magnet or something like this. Now, if you don't get it, in my America, all hospitals would be close to you. You're going to go
Starting point is 00:32:06 home and die. Okay. And that, and guess what? That type of attitude, guys, after a while, Adam, Tom, it starts to catch up with your people. And by the way, serious X-Men, with all the numbers and stuff that you did, though, Tom, it's over. All this nonsense of talking to us like that, like, how is it cool to have that attitude you think you're going to still have followers? And that comment, I'll flip this right back to you. That comment there, does that sound kind of authoritarian? And they're saying Trump's authoritarian, oh, I'm going to close the hospitals. You can't even go in. Seriously? Yeah. Goes back to the liberal technique. Accus the other side of what you're already doing.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Adam. So the hating Trump business model is officially closed. That was the initial question. He says, the people that hate you, how does that business model work? He's like, they're all getting done. So Howard Stern, Stephen Colbert, Fallon, Kim, all these names. I think Trump was wrong. I think all these people that he claimed have no talent are actually incredibly talented. Jimmy Fallon, incredibly talented. Howard Stern. very talented guy. Colbert, very talented. Where they're not talented is reading the room, understanding, hey, we have a huge pizza pie that we could all carve up. And they basically said, nope, throw the other half in the garbage, all these people. The plurables. We don't want
Starting point is 00:33:24 any of that. We're going to focus right here. And then you're just carving up whatever's left and they're basically sharing. So you're saying they have talent, but they have no audience, which means they have no brains. That's a different story. There's part of that. Think about this. Bill Maher said the exact opposite thing that Howard Stern said. He goes, I hate Trump, but I don't hate the people that voted for him. Howard Stern says, I don't hate Trump, but I hate the people that voted for him. Have the two careers gone two separate ways?
Starting point is 00:33:56 Bill Maher, one of the more credible voices in media these days, why? Because he's at least willing to say, I'll meet with Trump. I was wrong. And he did. Here's what's going on. And look at where his career. has gone versus Howard Stern might be out of a job. It's such a great point because, you know, it's easy to say, well, Howard Stern is 71
Starting point is 00:34:14 years old. Bill Maher is 69. It's not like Bill Maher's 55. And Bill Maher, some would say, is got an audience that's very confused because it's kind of like the right likes him one week, the left. So everybody is talking to the guy. And he'll get Sean Penn that'll come and say, I don't think there's any point to going to meeting with the president.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Says the guy that went and met with Castro So he'll say stuff like that And you got to love it I want to Trump I'm not going to lie to you He's funny He's funny I liked it I know you don't want to hear it
Starting point is 00:34:46 So and Howard Stern With this business model where it's going The beautiful thing about capitalism is Capitalism is going to expose you And if you don't show A way of being able to speak to both your audiences You're going to get your ass handed to you And that's happening right now to a lot of guys
Starting point is 00:35:00 Him question now becomes Who's next? That's really the list Who's next What's the model going to be with Camel? What's the model going to be with Fallon? What's the model going to be? Did you notice the other day who Stephen Colbert brought to his show?
Starting point is 00:35:15 Do you know who he brought to the show? The Republican, the conservative from the view, who hates Trump. Oh, the girl who's technically, she's a dumb. But guess what? It's kind of like, oh, we see the stats that we don't bring any conservatives. Bring the safe conservative view, right? Too late. Yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:35:30 Stephen Colbert, I dare you to do the following. Stephen Colbert, I dare you. Do you want to have your biggest show of the year? I dare you, Stephen Colbert, invite Tucker Carlson, invite Charlie Kirk, invite Trump. Invite Trump. Forget Trump. I'm not even talking about Trump. He can't get Trump.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Trump's not going to go on Colbert right now. I dare Stephen Colbert and the producers, if you're watching this. I dare you to test a Kirk. I dare you to test a, you know, Tucker. I dare you to test any of the conservative guys that have a voice, I dare you to bring them on. I dare you to bring J.D. Vanson. I dare you to bring Howard Lutnik on.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I dare you. You will not do it. You know why you will not do it? Because it's going to be your most viewed show of the year. And that's going to scare the shit out of you. By the fact, hey, who won't Stephen Colbert show? Who is it? Is it CBS?
Starting point is 00:36:25 CBS at the top. You really want to see if you're capitalist? Hey, capitalist. Put your money where your mouth is. You called the shots. called the producer and the booker and say, I want you to invite J.D. Vans. I want you to invite Charlie Kirk.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I want you to invite Tucker Carlson, even though right now we see what's going on the Republican side. They may not even be on the side. I want you to invite Megan Kelly. I want you to invite some of these guys. See what happens to the show. You know why they're scared? CBS, you shouldn't be scared.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Colbert shouldn't be able to say no to it. You should be able to say, we're paying you. These are the guests that are coming on. See what happens. You know why? Because if you're going to bring somebody else to replace Colbert, the audience is wanting to hear everybody.
Starting point is 00:37:06 FYI, I don't want to show that they only bring Republicans. If Stephen Colbert only brought Republicans, that's a boring show. Bring me other people, but I want to see you bring both. And if you fight and you disagree, I don't care. I respect it, but as long as you bring them.
Starting point is 00:37:22 However, what are the chances they're going to do that? Very little. Zero. Very little. They are so scared. They are so scared because they know the eyeballs will show up. They are so scared because they know it will go viral. They are so scared because they know to go training all over X. They are, you are
Starting point is 00:37:38 pansies. You won't do it. You're scared. Shitless. You are so scared. F.I. What if you guys choose to replace a camel and a Fallon with somebody on a center right? What if you bring a funny person that's got a personality that can push the envelope, that can
Starting point is 00:37:54 challenge people, but they're center right willing to talk to everybody. Sports, politics, movies, shows, bring somebody late night. Put him there. Have them bring everybody. Bring a bunch of, bring 60% liberal guests. See what happens to your show. This model shouldn't fail.
Starting point is 00:38:10 It is a failed model today, not because people don't want it. It is only a failed model because you said this to people on the complete opposite side. Not because it doesn't work. People do want to sit there late 9 and hear somebody talk that's going to laugh their asses out. I still go and watch Johnny Carson from back in a day. I still watch Johnny Carson from back in the days. I am so sick of today's Fallon and Kemmel and Colbert that I go on watch. 40 years ago from Carson, when I was in Iran, I was never even here to watch Johnny Carson.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I never lived in America under Johnny Carson. I lived here under the Letterman and the Leno days. Let's go back and watch it. So it's not a failed model. It's only a failed model if you don't invite anybody from the other side. Let's go to the next story. NFL. Here's what NFL just decided to do.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Let me go to the story on Tom. I'm coming to you with this one as well. Ready. ESPN Inc. Deal with NFL to acquire NFL Network and Red Zone Channel, which has a lot of people. talking. So what does this really mean? Okay. So ESPN, a Disney own sports media company has reached to deal with NFL to acquire NFL network and certain other media assets, including NFL's
Starting point is 00:39:13 linear redstone channel and NFL fantasy in exchange for 10% equity stake in ESPN. 10% equity in ESPN. Yes, 10% equity in ESPN. Rob, go on play this clip on a reaction on this decision. The NFL has had essentially a struggling media property in NFL network. It's never become what they thought it was going to be. They created Thursday night football as a way to prop up NFL network. It debuted in 2006 as a back half of the season Thursday night package to give NFL network something that would make cable providers want it. It still never really took off. And they've been trying for years to unload it, Dan. I mean, like 10 years they've been trying to get rid of this. And they've tied to different things. NBC was in the conversation at one point.
Starting point is 00:39:59 and now they get 10% equity in ESPN for these failing properties. And, yeah, I don't know that the consumer was the main reason for this. And now the question becomes, how do we make this seamless for the consumer? You know, for example, ESPN did a deal as part of this to continue to televise the draft for the next five years. Well, when you turn on NFL network for the draft, are you going to see Rich Eisen now? Are you going to see Mike Greenberg? Who's it going to be? And I think it's important for them to keep things normal from the perspective of the consumer.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Because I think most people are afraid, number one, things are going to change. And number two, we're going to get screwed. I just think that's the natural reaction to this news that these two behemots have come together. So Mike Floreau has hit something on the head. Where is Red Zone and NFL fantasy? And by the way, it's interesting. these have been out there for 10 years, and they have been like the short clips of the NFL. If you tuned in, NFL Fantasy would quickly take you through wide receivers and quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:41:05 and plays scored, oh, you know, Chase, 22-yard pass, two points for Chase on fantasy, NFL fantasy, and they bounced around. And then Red Zone was really great because Andrew Siciliano, you know, the guy with the Big Errors, really knowledgeable guy, fun guy to watch, a really great commentator, a lot of respect. I loved watching him because you could sit there if the radio, Raiders really stunk, and you were a Raider fan, like me, you would sit there and tune into Red Zone. So every time somebody's across the 20-yard line, boom, you get to watch scoring plays or
Starting point is 00:41:37 the drive stalling or whatever it is. So this was a short clip that I think was before its time, because now we know how powerful short clips are to the podcast in the media world. Well, now let's talk about exclusivity. ESPN is now getting an asset. Remember, the NFL bet on exclusivity when they did the DirecTV deal back at the dawn of DirecTV in 1994. I was there. I was part of a company that made components for DirecTV for the outdoor, outdoor dish.
Starting point is 00:42:10 And what was very interesting there, everybody said, what are they doing? Direct TV was getting sales just on Green Bay Packer fans that lived in New Orleans, just on Raider fans that lived in in Florida or Dallas, like me. And so that really worked. That exclusivity worked. Now ESPN says, listen, Cable is dying, and I'm having trouble getting take rate on my channels. But Tom, this is a desperate deal, though. This is not like a, this is, if I'm an outsider wanted to compete, Rob, you okay with posting that guy's picture of?
Starting point is 00:42:42 I mean, we know who he is. Every time you post this picture, it's like, no, no, the audience needs to see what we just looked at. He can't do that. He doesn't a nude photo. It's the goat. He uses nine Q tips. But let me go back to this. So when I look at a deal like this from an outsider, all I see is desperation.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I see worry. I see what's going to be happening. I see a, let's try to find a way to protect ourselves. Giving up 10%, Tom. That's a lot. Both of them are desperate. The NFL wanted to get it off cable and satellite because cable and satellite are dying. Dish Network, where's Dish Network?
Starting point is 00:43:11 Direct TV, where's DirecTV? Who won here? Who won here? I believe the NFL won here because they were able to get the assets that they were having trouble getting viewership on cable and satellite. they get 10% of ESPN, but ESPN was equally desperate. They've been cutting salaries of commentators. They've been trying to hone their message.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And they've been, look at all the big contracts that they've been doing for sports, like college conferences, and the big contracts they're not doing for commentators. Look at all the retired jocks. How many retired jocks have we seen not renewed on ESPN? A ton of them. Stephen A is the exception contract. They did the Stephen A contract. However, everybody else are trying to reduce.
Starting point is 00:43:51 the cost of the commentators and spend big on the sports property. And this is ESPN saying, I will take this for NFL that gives me another something to show the viewer and I'll give up 10% of ESPN. That shows you how desperate ESPN is for content. So the NFL won and something, I love that word, Pat. Both sides were desperate, but the NFL won. Yeah. And to me, so did ESPN give 10% to the NFL?
Starting point is 00:44:19 Yeah. NFL in that has 10% of what's not worth. This isn't, okay, so it looks like you might be referencing to the recent deal, but to clarify, this isn't a 10% financial return, like dividends or investment yields. Instead, it's just about ownership exchange. The NFL entered into an agreement to acquire 10% equity in investment, meaning they now own 10% in exchange for media assets. Okay, so let me tell you what I'm very uncomfortable with.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Let me tell what I'm very uncomfortable with. I'm very uncomfortable with the government owning 20% of CNN. I'm very uncomfortable if the government bought 20% of Fox. I'm very uncomfortable with anything owning a percentage of a company that's going to be forced to say good things about them. When it comes down to an institution, because NFL is essentially a form of a government, you know, for the sport. They own the NFL. So I just looked up right now, what access does NFL own? Rob, if you can ask this question, what companies does the NFL own?
Starting point is 00:45:15 they own NFL films, NFL network, NFL.com, NFL mobile, Red Zone, NFL Plus, NFL films, all these things that they own NFL ventures, right? And now you own ESPN 10%. Isn't that an arm in a way where ESPN can no longer do a negative story on concussions? Isn't that, I actually don't like the deal. It makes me feel very uncomfortable because the ESPN officially is not going to be criticizing the NFL because it's a product of theirs. I am very uncomfortable with the NFL owning 10% of ESPN.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I'm just extremely uncomfortable. I'm not uncomfortable with an owner owning it because still the regulatory arm would be who? The NFL coming and saying, hey, you can't just say good things about the Washington Redskins. I'm still going to call them Redskins. You can't say anything good about the Miami Dolphins. You can't, hey, why are you doing that?
Starting point is 00:46:05 No, no. You can't do that. You can't. So, but NFL owns 10% of ESPN, I am super uncomfortable with it. I think you've hit something there because I'll take to some reality. ESPN ended up with through ABC Monday night football. Yeah. And they, and when they
Starting point is 00:46:22 said things that were a little off, they got hit for it. They absolutely got hit for it. And they got pulled back. Hey, if you're going to do this, you can't do that. Lay off the refs. Remember, the refs work for the NFL. Oh, the reps are terrible. This suck. The NFL's not even ensuring that its games are fair because the reps are so bad. Joe Burrow got screwed on that. They're like, hey, can you knock that off, please?
Starting point is 00:46:44 That's already been happening. This takes that up a notch. And I also think ESPN Plus and Disney Plus are the streaming side of it. I bet you watch there's going to be an NFL package only available on ESPN Plus, and they're going to attach part of ESPN Plus to Hulu, so you have to buy Hulu and ESPN Plus. There's also a corporate side of it there. So you're absolutely correct. The reporting side of ESPN suddenly has to fall in line behind the storylines of the NFL.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I don't at all like it. I don't at all want the ESPN. NFL owning the ESPN. So the match you guys, your question. So if you own, if the NFL owns 10% of ESPN and the NFL, let's just say, is like, listen, we're going to go with this woke kneeling for the anthem and racism and all that stuff. You guys have to talk positive about it?
Starting point is 00:47:28 Hell no. Yes. Hell no. Why would you say anything negative? That's what I'm saying. Why would you say anything negative? You own like, it's a, it's a, nope. So it's kind of like, you know how, what is the whole thing that AOC is trying to get the insider
Starting point is 00:47:39 trading with and Nancy Pelosi and all these guys that both of them are doing it? Last year, Pelosi made 78% return or whatever the number was documented. She's killing it. Network between $200 million to $430 million that we keep reading about. Why are you uncomfortable with that? Because the U.S. government has access to certain information that other people don't. So they're going to protect it. I'm not comfortable with the NFL, the NBA, the MLB, the NHL,
Starting point is 00:48:03 owning a percentage of a massive network like ESPN. It's the biggest arm for sports. Criticism is gone. So there is no more criticism. criticizing because you can't. What are you going to criticize? The element of criticizing this, that's your job. That's the company that owns you.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I don't think it's good for the market. Adam, real quick before we go to the next story. Well, as much as you don't like it, I see this being part of the cultural narrative. America is obsessed with football. So remember, baseball was America's past time. It's in the past. By far and away, football is the most watched sport. It's not even close.
Starting point is 00:48:40 And by the way, if you look at the schedule, Thursday, 9th, is college football, Friday night is more college football, Saturday more college, Sunday NFL, Sunday night NFL, Monday NFL, Tuesday, Wednesday, you get enough. Thursday, you're starting again. By the way, starting Friday night lights, all of a sudden fantasy football, it will take over your life. That's not the point. My point is this. The business model is that they're they're shoving this down our throat because why, follow the money. I'm not shocked that they're cutting these side deals to basically engage in more football. If you look at the names of who's running these deals. Bob Eiger, Disney, ESPN, NFL
Starting point is 00:49:16 Red Zone, 10% equity stake. It's just money, money, money, money, money. You miss my entire point. No, I got your point. You miss my entire point. My point isn't. By the way, if I'm NFL and the government body allows me to buy ESPN, I'm buying it to ESPN. What do you like? This is a victory for NFL. That's good for them. It's like, you know, the U.S. government just bought CNN. The U.S. government just bought CNN and Fox. Okay, good. You know, hey, listen, you better or else, yeah, I get it. Well, what would the other way Tommy Lauren on the podcast, right?
Starting point is 00:49:48 When I asked a question about Epstein letter and nothing, I can't comment on that. Of course you can. Okay. Hey, you want to comment on concussions? I can't comment on that. Why? Because the NFL owns 10% of us. And we're not going to hear about that and we're not going to get better at that.
Starting point is 00:50:00 No, there's a part of me that's very uncomfortable with it. It's controlled is what it comes down to. Especially of the body. I'm more comfortable owners owning it because the body, which is the NFL can regulate. I'm not comfortable with the body, NFL only 10%. I'm not. There has to be a form of where the NFL is a government, is a body. I understand it's a business, but it's a body.
Starting point is 00:50:22 It's a very different way to view it than the rest, Tom. Yeah, and I'll tell you, this has happened before, and there's been uproars. In 1994, a commentator named Gary McCord was covering the Masters, and he was on, I think, the 17th green, and he said, wow these greens are so smooth and so fast it's like they they bikini waxed them and he said and there's body bags behind the 17th green for some of these players what he meant was the greens were so slick and he meant was some of these players have such trouble on the 17th green that it ruins around and you end up in a body bag you know hey the 17th hole really killed that guy yeah do you know what augusta said they called CBS that night and said take that guy off the air he is disrespecting
Starting point is 00:51:07 the prestige of Augusta. There wasn't disrespecting it. He was making a comment and it was playful and it was interesting in the stodginess of the old golf. I have a problem with that. I have a problem with that. And they did it. They did it. And it was an uproar
Starting point is 00:51:21 and it kind of backfired against Augusta because all of us at home said, you called the network that gave you millions and millions of dollars to broadcast your tournament and he was making it interesting and making a point that anyone that's ever held a golf club would understand,
Starting point is 00:51:36 even an amateur. That, guess what? This goes up on steroids when you add ownership to it. Got it. Okay, yeah, good point. Let's go to the next one. Trump threatens to federalize D.C.
Starting point is 00:51:46 After attack on Doge Stafford, that's a guardian story. So he is threatening to strip its local governors citing rampant youth crime after an alleged assault on Edward Koresstein, a 19-year-old former staffer of the Department of Government Efficiency,
Starting point is 00:52:05 who was severely beaten to the point of concussion while defending a woman from assault near DuPont Circle crime in D.C., and here's where he's talking about it. Trump threats to federalized backed by Elon Musk, the Salt and Doge team members, we're going to see what's going to happen here.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And in 2000, Lafayette scored, though fully suspending D.C.'s home rule established in 1973, would likely require congressional legislation. And we'll see if that had happened or not. Rob, is that a tweet of his? I have a tweet and video.
Starting point is 00:52:34 So let's watch the video, and then I'll read the tweet. go for it. By the way, I have to say that somebody from Doge was very badly hurt last night. You saw that a young man who was beat up by a bunch of thugs in D.C. And either they're going to straighten their act out in terms of government and in terms of protection and we're going to have to federalize and run it the way it's supposed to be run. Can you go to this tweet, Rob, and we'll break this down? So crime in D.C. is out of control. Local youth gang members, some only 14, 15, 16-year-olds are randomly attacking mugging and miming and shooting
Starting point is 00:53:06 innocent citizens at the same time, knowing that they will be almost immediately released. They are not afraid of law enforcement because they know nothing ever happens to them, but it's going to happen now. The law in D.C. must be changed to prosecute these minors as adults and lock them up for a long time, starting at the age of 14. The most recent victim was beaten mercilessly by local thugs. DC must be safe, clean, and beautiful for all Americans, and importantly for the world to see, if D.C. doesn't get its act to get in quickly, we'll have no choice, and then he goes into
Starting point is 00:53:34 the messaging there. So now, Tom, what does it mean to federalize? Does that mean the government now starts controlling it over? By the way, is that Elon tweeting? Yes, he tweeted to Trump's tweet. Okay, so a few days ago, Gangava, about a dozen young men tried to assault a woman in her car at night in DC. A Doge team members saw that what happened and ran to defend her and was severely beaten, beaten to the point of concussion. But he saved her.
Starting point is 00:53:58 It is time to federalize D.C. So they're on the same page together on this thing here. What does this mean, Tom, and who's going to be against? against it. Okay. Federalizing, so D.C. is a city. Cities normally are part of counties and counties are part of states. So you usually have a governor, county laws, like sheriffs, and then the city. Is that the kid, by the way, Rob? Yes, sir. That's him. So that's the kid after protecting the lady. Yep. That's what they did to him. Yep. Are you serious? That's serious. So can we find out about this 19-year-old kid? He's, you know, he's, you know, he's, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:33 I know. I want to know who he is. Can you pull up his name and just go, is this Edward Big Balls Corrinstein? Yes. This is the guy. That's him. Great name. Edward. Yeah, let's see who he is. That's him. But I want to know who he is. Like, I actually want to read, who is this guy. Okay. So he was known as Online Elias Big Balls. He's an American College on a program of formerly pointed about Doge and made a permanent federal employee with the title of Senior Advisor to the highest paid grade GS-15. And the general service administration at the end of May 2025, he was resigned. later in June before taking a job with Social Security Administration. Born, the father was a seal of lesser evil. The maternal grandfather, Valerie, was a KGB lieutenant colonel executed by Soviet Union as a double agent. After his execution, his widow moved for her children in the United States.
Starting point is 00:55:18 According to LinkedIn, he graduated from Rye County and attends Norton University. He enrolled in Norton Institute, Mechanical, and he expected your graduation. School friends described them as intelligent and driven while Ilan Musk being a hero. Corson is a registered Republican. Interesting. Interesting. So Tom, so this guy gets beat up. That picture is tough to watch, by the way, with what happened to him. So good for him for being a hero. So Tom, who would be against it? Who doesn't want this thing to happen? The Democrats aren't going to want federalization. So all federalization means is that the city of Washington, D.C. is not under any state.
Starting point is 00:55:54 It's in the District of Columbia, which means it does not have a state mechanism around it. Let's say there is a failure of a city in Florida. Let's use a fictitious example. The mayor of Fort Myers in the surrounding area has his family and his home washed out by a hurricane. The mayor can't perform, needs help. Governor DeSantis is down there with the Florida resources to help the mayor. Make sense? The state helps the city.
Starting point is 00:56:25 The city governs the city with police. City, police can't get the job done. county sheriffs, sheriff in the county, come out to assist. D.C. is just a city, but it's a failed city that doesn't have second-level control. Federalization would mean that the federal government would act as the state, like the DeSantis helping a city that's been hit by a hurricane or civil unrest. That's what they're talking about. Now, the Democrats are going to say, no, no, no, no, no, leave them be, leave them be, because
Starting point is 00:56:55 they use D.C. The Democrats use D.C. for its little electoral vote. they use DC and it's never been anything but blue and the poverty and everything that's there is horrible. How's that working out for you, citizens of DC? How's that working out? But the Dems are going to be against it because they'd rather have victims at the voting booth than actually move things forward and have people look around and maybe move toward independent status. Pat, those are the people that don't want it. But DC clearly needs something like a state to help govern it, and that's what federalization would do because D.C. is not in a state. It's just a district of
Starting point is 00:57:34 Columbia and a city. Penny, what do you think about this? Well, again, you know, Adam always say, you say follow the money. Who's the mayor? Who's the mayor? Muriel Bowser, okay? She's been there since 2015, and we always talk about people that are voting these people in and doing all that said. There's three terms that have been happening with her. Okay, the city's got more dangerous, more expensive, and more out of touch. And just a little background history in her. Oh, my God. She backed the criminal code to overhaul
Starting point is 00:57:58 slash penalties for violent crimes. So she lowered sentences for carjacking robberies and gun crimes. Number one, she pushed to defund the police. A mayor of a city was pushing to defund the police in 2020. She supported soft-on-crime prosecutors, okay, and all this stuff. It's not like D.C. got bad overnight. I'm not pulling all on her, but it's policies like hers that rot from the inside. And again, keep voting for these people, and you're going to keep getting it.
Starting point is 00:58:24 So I'm pro-Trump doing what he's going to do. Like, enough is enough. This lady won against Vincent Gray, Democratic primary, and he was incumbent, and won the general election against three independent and two minor candidates with 55% of vote. In 2018, that was on 14. 2018, she won her second term with 76.4% of the vote. In 2022, on her third term, she won 74.6% of the vote, Vinny. 74. Go a little bit lower up on that to see what it says on the bottom.
Starting point is 00:58:57 youngest of six children. Her father was a D.C.-based public advocate who worked with a public servant and employee in D.C. area. Born in D.C., grew up in North Michigan. Very interesting. What school did she go to? Can we see what school she went to something, university?
Starting point is 00:59:09 She went to Chatham University, Chatham College in Pittsburgh. Adam, your thoughts on this? Yeah, I think Trump should follow through with federalizing D.C. So, you know, we're all, in America, we understand what a monopoly is. And antitrust laws are put in place
Starting point is 00:59:22 to prevent companies from dominating industries. We always hear that. Amazon is dominating the industry. Microsoft, Apple, dominating the industry. What about politically? What about ideologically? Has D.C. ever had a conservative Republican mayor ever? A lot of these cities out there, they're ideologically dominated by one party. And we wonder why D.C., L.A. Philly, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Chicago, the list goes on and on and on. Don't improve. And I used to always advocate. These are the best cities in America. The biggest cities in America. the biggest cities in America, but there's a big difference between the biggest and the best.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Washington, D.C., I love D.C., but D.C. is a city of complete paradox and contrasts. It's basically suits by day and sirens by night. You're just walking around. You love it. It's history on every corner. As soon as night falls, it's like, run for shelter. You don't know what's coming around the next corner. Hide your kids, hide your wives. it is the most American city
Starting point is 01:00:26 flags everywhere patriotism everywhere but then it's also the most liberal city the most liberal cities in the country by far and away Washington D.C., San Francisco, Berkeley area
Starting point is 01:00:39 and then Boston, Cambridge. It's the elite ivory coast university cities that basically have zero tolerance for an ideological difference. So the monopoly that they have on D.C. I'd love to see it come to an end.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I've never understood the voters. Marion Barry was elected mayor. Then he ends up in- Do a crack. In jail. That's right. Crack and with Hunter Biden. And allegedly also using city funds allegedly
Starting point is 01:01:09 to pay for hookers, making him known as the bedducation president. Yes. I mean, the bed-ducation mayor. And then his campaign slogan was, I will get the drugs off the street and into my nose. And then after, after he goes to jail, the people reelected him.
Starting point is 01:01:27 It's like, what are you doing? It's just name recognition and looking back to that. So there is also this thing, it's like you get what you vote for. And then they all look back and say, now you've had two generations of failed schools, poverty, and all the problems go with it. How's it working out for you? When are the voters going to wake them? By the way, with this whole conversation started with the kid that got beat up from Doge and Elon Musk kind of waited. Sirens at night, as you said.
Starting point is 01:01:53 sirens at night. I mean, this is very common. By the way, did you see the stats about Elon Musk's favorability? Yeah. Have you seen these numbers? We're going to get to that. Okay, got you. We're going to get to that. We'll get to that story. So where I want to go to after this on DC is the following. Vinny tells me a video about three kids in Dallas at a Walgreens at a Walgreens. Okay. Vinny, you want to tell us what happened? Have you? I haven't seen this clip at all. Okay. So there's three kids. They're robbing, stealing from a Walgreens in Dallas. They get locked inside. Okay. And instead of being scared and bare. I'm going to show you the attitude of them screaming, clowning the robbers, and threatening to attack them, okay? And then you got, just, and I'm, as a parent, you guys are parents, Rob, please tell me how you would feel, and I'm going to get into what I think the parents and all that stuff,
Starting point is 01:02:39 but they just got caught, and they're locking them inside of Walgreens. Go for it. You got, like, 10 takes stabbing up the door. I swear to God, I'm going to break the door. I'm going to break the door. 10 seconds. Come downstairs. That's it.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Get up. You know how to come out of the ass. You can open the door. Look at the door. Look at the door. Look at the door. I'm not talking to go. You're open it.
Starting point is 01:03:08 I'm not playing it. You know how to count. You have hand. Open the door. We break this bitch. Look at that, dude. I'm going to break some up in his bitch. I'm God.
Starting point is 01:03:18 You are. Look, look. He wants to go hit her. I would like that for a tin control. You not play that. No kid is born this way. No, hell no. That's right.
Starting point is 01:03:27 These kids remain. No kid is born this way. Look at that. I will trash this off. I'm closed. All right. Who's talking? Here's my question.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Is that the only clip, right? There's a, God, Rob. This is then afterwards with the sister. She's going online because she's like, people are talking crap about them. Let me post a video, which doesn't help the case at all. Rob, play this one. This is the sister. Since she makes more money to you, she got our own house.
Starting point is 01:03:51 She paid our own bills. She got more. shit of you, you broke, you ain't get no emotion. And that was not food inside the bag, that was snacks and toys. And if it was, yeah, that's what child, y'all, like, the fuck. Matter of fact, everybody steals. Matter of fact, everybody steals.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Everybody that knows, no, y'all got food. Y'all grown people. And by the, she posts multiple videos of this. By the way, this drove me crazy. Because, okay, let's just, I'm just going to assume who was outside waiting from them to drive them away. It wasn't the sister. Maybe the mom,
Starting point is 01:04:18 if she's still in the picture. Yeah. Okay. And like, and if I had to assume, like you guys nailed it. How the hell do you get to that? How do we get to that behavior? You're taught. You're taught. Where's the father? And you watch.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Yeah, I'm going to assume there's no father in the picture. Okay, this is, and this is an exact result of tearing down the nuclear family that we talked about last week and pretending it doesn't matter. That type of attitude. And then this will boil over into that situation where that guy that we saw, they got pulled over, Pat. They got pulled over and that attitude, that resentment, that at a time, that close the door, close the window, smash in the window, not listening to the police. What do you think these kids are going to turn into?
Starting point is 01:04:54 I'm cooperating. I'm cooperating. No, you're not. You're just sitting with your hands up in a dash cam. With this attitude, what are these poor kids? And I feel bad for them. What are they going to turn into? What are they going to?
Starting point is 01:05:05 It's that culture that's happening right now that's out of freaking control. And if you say anything, you should see all the hate I got on Instagram because of the freaking guy that was pulled over and wasn't listening to the cops. Man, you don't know nothing. You race this way until I see you. It's like, okay, whatever. What are those kids? What's the future of those kids?
Starting point is 01:05:22 I'm going to turn into. They're already 80% of the way there. I want to show you something. I found this video a couple weeks ago. This is in 1986. You're talking 40 years ago, okay? They're interviewing a bunch of single mothers. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:34 And look how they're speaking. Go ahead, Rob. Raise your hand if you're married. None of you're married. Raise your hand if you would like to be married to your baby's father. One. The rest of you who don't plan to get married, why don't you plan to get married? I'd like to know that.
Starting point is 01:05:58 You already have your child to think about, and then a whole family to care for. You know, it's a lot of responsibility. And then you don't want the commitments. I wouldn't want no man holding me down because I think I can make it as a single parent. But don't you think you might need help in raising that baby from a man? Not really. I didn't have a father. My father wasn't in the home.
Starting point is 01:06:25 There you go. You know, it really, male figures are not substantially important in the family. Wow. Though you would not have heard such things said so freely because they were not embraced so widely. The strong family was still the backbone of black America. And three out of four children had both parents at home. That is true no longer. Most black children are now growing up without their fathers.
Starting point is 01:06:52 The result is a world turned upside down, as children copy what they see and repeat what they learn. LaDan said she didn't have a father in her home and doesn't think her children need one. She's not unusual. Half the black families today are headed only by a woman. That's 86. She said she could make it on her own as a single parent. She has never been married and is raising her daughter without a man's help. She's not unusual.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Today, nearly 60% of all black children are born. out of wetlock. Unbelievable. That's 86, and it's not gotten better. So now what do you do? So now what do you do? So the same people they voted for came up with these policies that destroyed the incredibly conservative, strong disciplined, African-American families that wore suits and ties, the way they dressed, hey, boy, stand up, carry yourself. I remember I met some of the, when I was in the military, some of these, you know, folks I would meet the level of discipline. Now you hear some of the stories because for every story like this you hear, you also hear stories about, you know, who the CEO of Lowe's is. Go to the C. of Lowe's CEO is a man named Marvin Ellison, okay? He's been with them now for six or seven years, if I'm not mistaken. This is a Fortune 100 company ran by Marvin Ellison.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Do you know who his brother is? Can you type in who Marvin Ellison's brother? I assume it's not Larry Ellison. No, it's not Larry Ellison. But Marvin Ellison's brother, you would know who he is. Marvin Ellison's brother is somebody, not this one. They have a couple of them. Oh, Keith Ellison?
Starting point is 01:08:28 We had him on the podcast. If you remember. Keith Ellison? Not Keith Ellison. Is it Vincent? Can you type in, Rob, if I'm not Vince Ellison, yes. Do you guys remember when we had him on the podcast? Election night.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Election night. Yeah, incredible. That's his brother. Guys, no, what I'm trying to tell you. Talk about good parenting. And by the way, they were raised by incredible parents. Yes, he's awesome. Incredible parents.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Right values. You see where one of them is at the top. Fortune 100 CEO of a company since 2018. So this is the stark difference between the two. But when you come up with bad policies, you're like, well, you know, Planned Parenthood. It's what we got. It says you're unfair. You have freedom of choice.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Oh, really? The whole purpose of plan. parenthood was to eliminate African-Americans. That's what the founder wanted. She wasn't there because she was so sentimental about the African-American community. What percentage of abortions do you think happens from that? What percentage of abortions that Planned Parenthood does is African-Americans? What is the number? Over 40 percent. Over 40 percent, guys. Over 40 percent of the customers. Yes. Then what do you do. Over 40% of the customers. Add drugs. Add taking entitlement value. Add giving, you know, money for having kids out of wedlock. Add all this stuff. And then what do you do? You destroy an
Starting point is 01:09:52 entire community of people who are being raised by that. I'm not saying everybody. Look at that number right there. Non-Hispanic black woman, 41% of the abortions. Yeah. And they're only 7% of the country. They're only, no, they're not African-Americans. They're, you mean the one. African-American women. 13% of the country. Exactly. Yes, yes. Meaning it's their... I know. I'm outkicking their coverage.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I understand. I understand. But 41 and a half percent of all the abortions is by black women. Then it's white women. Then it's Hispanic women. Then it's all the other races. How do we get here? How did this happen?
Starting point is 01:10:25 Yeah, and these videos that you see with kids talk like that. Like, wait, last night I'm talking to Luke and Preston, right? Two boys coming up to me, how respectful they are. Right? And you see these guys that are playing baseball, parents, you know, incredible people. And then you have Kristen Vasina Hart. I see their kids. CJ, who's a boxer. They see crossing the stage. They're on the stage on all the stuff that they're saying. Man, I mean, this is a very different way of raising. And this is a real issue.
Starting point is 01:10:54 So when you show me clips like this, and I'm so, well, you know, it's racist. It's this, it's that. No, it's called a representation. I'm Armenian. Go to Glendale. In Glendell, look how much medical fraud you'll hear on the insurance side with Armenians. Some of it is right of what happened. How many people took advantage of it? It's true. Those stereotypes come because some of it is true. You go look at folks that are, you know, terrorists, blowing things up. What are they? Are they Mormons? Are they Jews? Are they Christians? What are they when you hear that phrase? Muslim extremist. These stereotypes that you go and look like, hey man, pull your pants up. Walk up straight.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Talk, stop using the slang words. It's not the kid's fault. That's how he heard everybody talk. You know, gangster rap when you listen to, you speak a certain language, who become your heroes. So to me, when I see videos like that, Vinny, it's very disturbing. Because it's not the kid's fault, man. It's the parents. The parents did that.
Starting point is 01:11:53 They learned that. That's a learned habit. Yeah. And you want to piggyback. Because you said, how and why? Like, to me, and please tell me, if you're kind of following me, it's as if the government, that's the plan. They want to remove the father. that's why they always push this single you could do a girl do it by yourself they create confusion okay and then the state steps in as your daddy so then they go to school they learn you know the school the media and the government they become the authority and that's how you build a society that listen to the politicians instead of listening to their own blood am i i appreciate you use the word society because there's two things that have absolutely destroyed the african-american community now they will read i'm going to first go to something they will read talking points oh it was you know
Starting point is 01:12:37 Companies pulled money out of Cleveland, pulled money out of Pittsburgh, out of downtown, and it left no jobs. No, the great society under Lyndon Johnson and Planned Parenthood are the two greatest impacts on the African American community that was assimilating, getting through Civil Rights Chapter of America, and moving forward, as Pat pointed out, dressed in suits, going to church. you know they were very respectful with everybody people were respectful with them and those two things the great society under linda johnson which was a lie below the surface and planned parenthood have taken it here everything else that we're seeing downstream is now an artifact of that but they're responsible to it it may not be your fault but it is your reality is what every person has to face look at look at Gabe, a man, I love and respect. It wasn't his fault that the country and the government was shifting in Iran, but it was his
Starting point is 01:13:37 reality, and he had to go do something and make hard choices and get himself out of it because he said, I'm not going to continue here. All of us have faced that, some deeper than others, but what you're talking about is exactly right. It's exactly right. I want to go to the next story here. Elon Musk, story comes out, and Adam, I'm coming to you first on this one. Elon Mark is officially the most unpopular public figure in America.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Okay, if you want to go to a drop on, do you have a video on that or no? I do. I think you have a video on that. Let me read the story and then we'll go to the video. So Elon Musk, richest man in a world, a gallopold conductor between July 7th and July 21st found that Tesla is CEO. Elon Musk is the most unpopular public figure in America with 61% of respondents holding an unfavorable opinion, 6% have a no opinion, and only 33% reporting a positive view, marking a decline from his net favorability. rating of minus 4% in January, minus 28% now.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Dan, that's a plus minus of 24. Musk's unpopularity surpasses even Israelis Prime Minister Betten. Wow. He's ahead of Netanyahu? Where do you see that? Right down here at the bottom. And Marco Rubio is ahead of Trump? How?
Starting point is 01:14:43 What the heck of that? Then as Pete Heck said, Newsom, J.D. Vance, Joe Biden, RFK, AOC, Macron, Bernie Zelensky, Pope, Leo. Very interesting when you see a list like this. And then some of the prime, Prime, Democrats, That's given him a minus 86 net favorability to return to alignment with president from his role as a special government employee heading Doge. So, Adam, why do you think his net favorability is worse than BB than Rubio than Trump? Well, be careful when you get into politics.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Elon Musk a few short years ago, he went from being Iron Man to basically being internet troll to politically politically disobedient to basically out of the White House. Elon Musk was the darling of the left. Think about what he's built. EVs, green, technology, Silicon Valley. He moved out of California into Dallas, got into the political limelight. Okay, Austin, I apologize. Moved into political limelight. Combined with Trump, dark maga, and these are the ramifications of basically getting involved in politics.
Starting point is 01:15:49 You say, you know, Pat, you always talk about, you know, no matter what you do, no matter business, what you're in, you're in politics. Yes. behind the scenes, you're in politics. When you step into the limelight and you're involved in politics and you make an endorsement like this, you know who the most vicious, vicious people are? The hardcore left. They're the most unforgiving cancel culture.
Starting point is 01:16:11 If you do them wrong, they will never forgive you. Yeah, don't step out of line. Exactly. The hardcore right, they might say they disagree with you, they want nothing to do with you, but they're not going to just be trolling you all day. Elon Musk, have you heard of anything from Elon the last month? Only talking about rockets, only rockets and marredibly quiet politically, and he's been focused on business.
Starting point is 01:16:33 In my opinion, I think stakeholders, shareholders, board of directors, they're all saying, listen, guy, you're the richest man in the world. Do you want to stay the richest man in the world? Do you want your companies to be the richest companies in the world? Get out of politics. So Elon is now facing the music. Two to one. Two to one is unfavorability ratings, meaning two people hate him. him for every one person that likes him.
Starting point is 01:16:54 That's not a good look for you. But I mean, but at the end of the day, though, you have to admit, though, that this guy played a huge, huge role in getting this guy, Donald Trump, into the White House. $250 million. Dude, that's not, by the way, that is not Trump change, Adam. That's ridiculous, bro. Listen, $2,500 million. Yeah, whatever be.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Yeah, exactly. But my point is, like, I can understand why, why, how do you get to that level, okay? Everybody was loving him, except obviously the left because they, they got in, Hitler. You know what I mean? Trump was Hitler. And then, I mean, they just went after him. Any movement that he did, they're like, oh, that's a Nazi salute. That's that. So you can see it's manufactured, but the same token, when you give $250 million and you help somebody get in, then that person gets in at him and doesn't do what you say, and then you get into a fight
Starting point is 01:17:41 allegedly in the White House, you get punched in the face and you have a black eye. And the fallout is that guy who's the most popular president, I think, in the history of the world, of America. That guy turns on you, of course it's going to look bad for you, bro. They made, they made Tesla's how many months where Tesla's getting firebombed and cyber trucks? Cyber trucks. It's still happening, by the way. It's still happening because
Starting point is 01:18:02 they made everybody hate this guy and love them or hate him, bro. This guy saved us from a Kamala, Joe Biden, whatever the hell you want to talk about it. Say what you want. They want to hate him. Do not forget this guy put his money where his mouth is and saved us. For that moment in history, that guy saved us.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Also allowed freedom of speech on Twitter. So I can't, I don't. I don't understand how could he be hated more than some of these other's names that, Pat Tom, where are you at? Well, you know, in politics no good deed will go unpunished. And he certainly was huge in the election helping.
Starting point is 01:18:34 The Dems already hated him. Of course. The Dems already hated him. They were enduge and everything about it. They were already all over Tesla. But then what happened? So now let's go to the poll. What's in the poll? Words talk, number, scream. Screw the headlines. Let's dive into the numbers.
Starting point is 01:18:50 You are already going to have a negative polling difference, you know, on the people that disapprove versus approve, you're being negative with the Dems. And then when you go up against Trump, what happened with one-third to one-half of the Republican voters? They went negative. Exactly. And so guess what? Two negative, and then one negative is three negative.
Starting point is 01:19:15 And congratulations. You have a minus 28. The numbers are very simple. he went up against the hero of most of the Republican parties who wanted him in the White House, who wanted the change, this is what I voted for, including this man. That's what I was saying in April. I didn't give a very good grade based on execution, but I said, this is what I voted for. Close border is what I voted for.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Driving international trade and being not America only, but America first, that's what I voted for. Was it messy? Yes. And guess what? Elon went up against some of that. So now the numbers show that he's highly negative. Yeah. So to me, I think there's a complete different side of it as well when you're going through this.
Starting point is 01:20:00 By the way, just so you know, if you're on this list, at least you're on this list, period. Okay. So folks, your name's not on this list for a reason. Most people's names are not in this literal reason. This list also says influence. If you're on this list, loved or hated, favorable or unfavorable, the one score that they're not putting, it's also saying that these are some of the most influential people in the world. That's also what this says.
Starting point is 01:20:30 This is influence. That comes with it. You're going to fumble, you're going to screw up, you're going to go through your mistakes. At times, you know, you can also go through a certain thing. Remember lost. Elon found, got a cause. He committed. Lifestyle, graduate lifestyle. Then it's too much. No, it's me. I don't. I'm just saying we all, you know, so then maybe you think you're bigger than Trump and you're not. And the market said, look, we, you're very important. Very. You know, maybe he doesn't want without you. I would say that. He played a very important role. It definitely doesn't happen if he doesn't buy X. Because if he doesn't buy X and doesn't bring back Alex Jones, the Tate's, the bunch of other people who are loud, who are finally back on X,
Starting point is 01:21:25 they got their voice back, and it's still being ran by the old guy, not Dorsey, the other Indian guy, I don't remember his name, but you know what I'm talking about. And there's still Twitter files going on. And then Facebook's forced to open up Trump. Instagram opens up Trump. YouTube no longer flags a lot of the stuff that we're saying. That doesn't happen without Ilan. I agree.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Very, very, and the day Elon was buying Twitter, I called every single bank to try to give $10 million to go in because I'm in on this guy being a great operator. And I don't even remember. You guys, I talked about it on the podcast, October of 2022. I'm calling everybody, if you know, I want to give you $10 million. And the only person that was doing it was Kathy, what was the girl's name? Kathy Wood from Arc.
Starting point is 01:22:02 The way you were buying, it was very weird, and I didn't want to get involved in that. So I'm a supporter and a believer in what he's doing as an operator. but at the same time one man took bullets and almost died and one man at the age of 79 years old campaigned nonstop
Starting point is 01:22:21 after going through everything that he went through since 2016 when Elon didn't support him when Elon did say a lot of different things and he fought and they finally flipped so it's very important to realize today it's his season we're backstage yesterday with
Starting point is 01:22:37 Swazzo Ellis and Okafor and Hart and I'm like so what do you think about the event he says I believe this is the we're back I said we're back to what
Starting point is 01:22:48 he says this reminds me of 2019 when the late Kobe was there and you know Bush and all this other stuff I said who was number one in 2019 they started giving me the names I say who are the top five today not them I said what happened
Starting point is 01:23:00 it's not their show today it's your show today right they were hosting the event last stand in front of everybody today it's Trump's show not yours it doesn't mean it's going to be Trump show in 2028
Starting point is 01:23:13 but today's Trump show it doesn't mean that Trump's going to be more influential in 2029 than Elon Elon could be more influential than Elon and then Trump in 2029 but today it's not your term and turn
Starting point is 01:23:30 it's not Rubio understood that JD is understanding that the Santas absolutely didn't understand that because he crushed it at the best state thinking he's bigger than Trump and he was destroyed
Starting point is 01:23:46 destroyed where he you know people are like dude I don't like the way you're handling yourself Floridians love the guy but at the national level no so sometimes when you're in your own community and people tell you how amazing you are you start thinking you're big and you're not
Starting point is 01:24:01 Trump is the alpha amongst alphas today he won't be forever but it's his season today. And I'm not surprised that its unfavorability is here, although I don't think it's going to stay there forever because when he made a tweet about he's on the Epstein list, Trump, wait till this gets dropped. Trump was asked about Elon. And Rob, do you have the clip of Trump's being asked about Elon? This is it. And he says, so what do you think about Elon Musk and what happened here? Look at the graceful answer that Trump gives. Go forward. Yeah, please.
Starting point is 01:24:38 I'm wondering, do you miss having him around the White House, or does that fall accurate? I don't know if that falls accurate. I think he's a good person. I think he had a bad moment, really bad moment. But he's a good person. I believe that. That is such a non-what-we're used to, Trump answer. Think about how much more improved and how measured to use the word grace Trump is.
Starting point is 01:25:02 The old Trump would have been like, loser, get him out of here, get out of here, little rocket boy. you got to give Trump a little respect for the way he is handling in a situation. This situation. Musk said that he was on the Epstein list, gave a peace sign, walked out the door, and Trump has the greatest... In the history
Starting point is 01:25:21 of mankind, there has never been a more battle tested politically with limelight than him. I'm not talking war. You could say Patton. You could say Mattis. You could say a lot of different guys. You're saying limelight. When it comes down to a limelight in the history of mankind, Let me say this to you.
Starting point is 01:25:39 When it comes to the history of mankind under limelight, not a single soul has been more battle tested than Trump. Nobody, not a soul. Give me a name. I want you to actually think about top five. You cannot. Give me a name. Give me who's a top five.
Starting point is 01:25:55 Bush, no. Obama, no. Obama never had a career before. Nobody knew who he was until a speech in 2004 at the DNC. Nobody has experienced more of people targeting. getting Kim. Yes. Then Donald Trump, he is so battle tested. So to him, a question like this is like a regular Tuesday. What do you? Okay, yeah. Well, I think it was a bad day that he had. I think he's a good guy. I think he's a good guy. Next. Seven second answer. But even though he has been
Starting point is 01:26:20 battle tested, that's undisputable. Yeah. The grace that he's showing now. The Trump 2.0 is such a better presidency than Trump 1.0. But because he doesn't have to get reelected. Yeah. Well, that's even done. But that is the most important thing, though. Because think about it. If you had to be re-elected, that's when you would say, you know what? Let me have a little grace and be a little more distinguished. The fact that he doesn't have to be that way is why I respect. Let's go through the whole thing from the day the president chose to run. Lost, 2015, you mean?
Starting point is 01:26:51 Found, committed, he's running. Lifestyle, he wins. He's everywhere. Then, entitled, bored, it's me, rebellion. It's unfair, it's unfair, it's unfair. then he gets the break what's the best job you ever had I've never had a better job of being a president
Starting point is 01:27:10 legacy then he comes back it's a legacy in history he is all about legacy and history and a part of being legacy in history is to learn how to manage team of rivals and he's doing it and you got a problem on the power versus force chart I was trying to think when you started talking about him where would you put Trump right now
Starting point is 01:27:26 in the chart and Rob if you can bro but the power versus oh great question Vincent well I could think about we talk about it and I know we talked about us about two three weeks ago Pat I want you I want to know Trump right now with the battle tested with everything that he's been going through from the hate, from destroying him with his money, from the lawfare, from the bullet to his head to where he's at right now, even talking kindly about a guy that basically called him a pedophile.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Where are you on this list? On any given day, he can go up to willing. I think that's it. Huh. No. I would maybe go acceptance, reason on some things. but I'm just floating on acceptance and reasons
Starting point is 01:28:06 I think he's between willing and reason I gotta tell you I think he's somewhere sometimes between the love and joy I don't think he's got peace I think he's running and gunning
Starting point is 01:28:15 I don't think he said I love the word love I love tariffs more he loves tariffs I don't think he's there yet I don't think he's there really I don't think he's that high I don't think he's there yet
Starting point is 01:28:23 because in his mind when you're still in like right now we had a call yesterday it was an intense call yesterday first thing in the morning was it yesterday or a day before yesterday morning Yesterday morning.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Tough morning because we had to overcome a one of the 20 crisis. Literally it was one of the 20 crises you experienced in business. And I'm probably going to share it with you guys on the webinar that I do. And by the way, if you're not registered for it, I want to give you this white paper. If you're running a business, you have to know these 20 threats because it's going to affect your business. And it costs us a lot of money every time we – a lot of money every time we go through it. Well, we have this call and we're going through it, right? And I said something to my guys.
Starting point is 01:29:01 I said, can I ask you a question? I said, so we've known about this since Friday. You haven't called me? Yes. Why is that? Are you not calling me because you don't want to bother me because I'm running it with my insurance company? I said, there's one person in the company,
Starting point is 01:29:14 and it's only one person, that you get to call him if there's a problem, a tier one problem on his birthday, on his anniversary, on vacation, on a company trip. He's in Italy. He's in Monaco. He's in Australia. There's only one person because my guys were like,
Starting point is 01:29:28 I was very surprised. You never called me when I was on PTO and I was on vacation. I said, yes, I don't want to call you. because I want you to enjoy your PTO. If a tier one crisis happen, I will call you. But I'm not the guy that calls you, if not tier one crisis. I'm a leader. We'll handle it, right?
Starting point is 01:29:41 But for you, you don't get to treat me that way. I'm the flippin founder. You got to get those calls me. You call me. Don't feel sorry for me. Don't feel, I chose this job because I freaking love it. He's still in the grind. There's still 90% of stuff that's not done yet.
Starting point is 01:29:56 He still has to be an asshole at times. He still has to push the envelope at times. He still has to push people around at times. He still has to do that. That's why he's not there yet. Once he gets to the point that he knows some of these tariffs, the Panama Canal, some of these things are done, the peace is coming.
Starting point is 01:30:11 I think you are going there. I don't think he's fully there yet. That's why he still can't show too much love and joy. You can't. You still have to show unpredictability. You're dealing with a guy named Putin. The other day, Putin and them are talking to each other. And it's like, hey, you know, who called who?
Starting point is 01:30:28 Because this whole story about Putin and Trump envoy hold. productive meeting on Ukraine as U.S. deadline nears. He still hasn't finished. So you want him to show joy and peace? You can't show that. You can have it internally, but you've got to keep it to yourself. When you're raising your kids and you have boys, you've got to still show toughness. So this story comes out that
Starting point is 01:30:47 you know, Russia issues nuclear weapons warning no limits. And then Putin has asked the question on this meeting that they're going to be having. I'll read it to you and I want Rob if you can find a clip. So President Putin met with Trump's Special Envoy Steve Whitcock. in Moscow on Wednesday
Starting point is 01:31:04 when Putin's foreign policy advisor Yuri Ushikov stated Russia Russia had conveyed signals to the American side on the Ukraine issue and received corresponding signals from Trump describing the three-hour meeting as
Starting point is 01:31:20 productive. The meeting also attended by senior Russian officials Kiro Dimitrov focused on Ukraine and prospects for Russia-U.S. Strategic Cooperation as Washington presses for a ceasefire before Trump's Friday deadline, despite the talks, Trump imposed an additional 25% tariff on India for buying Russian oil, citing their fueling the Russian war machine.
Starting point is 01:31:43 So, Rob, if you can play the clip that you have, this is President Putin being asked about the meeting. Go for it. Thank you, thank you, Mr. President of all right of God, excuse me, that I'm in the world. about what you're going to say, with Trump, what's not. What was not. Who was the initiator of this summit? The interest was
Starting point is 01:32:03 been on both of their side. What there was, what he said? At first, it's not much than that. You can't tell me? You know, Mr. Hosek, if you're going to be the next year, or where, maybe,
Starting point is 01:32:16 maybe to make the place? We have many who are going to help to organize, of a project of a sort of one of the President of Abduen of Arab's Emirates. I think that we're going to be, but it would be one of the one of the most of the most of the most of the United States. What's the President?
Starting point is 01:32:42 I've already said, I've never-kraten, that I'm in the in general, it's possible, but for this, you can pause it right there so you know when i had the president on the podcast i played a clip where i said mr president here's the only time i've ever seen to get emotional do you remember that rob in the in the podcast when i showed it on yes and i'm showing him the clip i don't know if you remember i ever loved that i love that i love that clip yeah i showed him the clip and i noticed that uh rob is there a way you can find i'm going to find it right now i'm showing him the clip and I'm like it looks like you're getting emotional because you're speechless on the way the
Starting point is 01:33:25 audience is reacting to you and I said can you please watch this so he watches this and you see him go like this he crosses his arms and he's watching it you can tell you can tell he's holding back okay you can tell he's holding him back as he's getting emotional when I'm showing this clip what did you ask him at that point I wanted to see if there was going to be an element of him showing the vulnerable side of him for America to fall in love with the fact that this man also has feelings and emotion as life is also hard. It's when I talked about the fact that a father goes through three, yeah, this is it. Can you back up a little bit, Rob?
Starting point is 01:34:08 Yep. You're so good at this stuff, Rob. Go back a little bit. This is, I love this. Watch this. And I just want you to see his body language. Can you go back when I start saying it. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Watch this. to you and I said wow okay this is South Dakota so this is Rapid City South Dakota you're speaking and all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:34:28 you have this moment if you can play this clip I want to get a reaction to this go for it Rob and help build America into the greatest nation in the history of the world that music
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Starting point is 01:35:37 FX's Alien Earth, an original series streaming August 12th on Disney Plus. Sign up today. 18 plus subscription required TNCs apply. That music will get you, man. Like he's really like, damn. You see it? Reflecting. Emotional.
Starting point is 01:36:02 What he's done from the country. Some people would be crying right now. No, he is crying. You just don't see it. Exactly. No, let it keep going. Look at his arms crossed. Look at his arms.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Well, let me explain. So I think I'm the only politician that ever spoke to music before. And I do that sometimes at the end of some of the rallies. I wish we could show the video while he's watching himself because his arms weren't crossed. He's holding himself back. And he knows he can't show it. You know why he can't show it? Let me explain to you why.
Starting point is 01:36:47 he's in a again this is my analysis so it could be fully off in that mode he knows deep down inside it's love and joy and he wants to show emotion but he knows he can't show to his enemies you cannot show that you have that they can only see the psycho side of you you cannot show love
Starting point is 01:37:11 you have to sometimes show a little bit of anger and pride you have to that's used every once in a while for them to know you're crazy. You ever seen that scene with Christopher Walking and the line when he's telling that story?
Starting point is 01:37:22 Oh, I love it. Have you ever seen? Rob, type in Christopher Walkin, Lion. Oh. You ever seen this? Oh, Adam's going to love.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Let me tell you, Rob. If you just go on, if you go on. So this is the part about Lion. That's the one, Rob. Let the commercial go. No.
Starting point is 01:37:39 This validates what he had to do. Is that the... Is that the... Is it this part? is that to see oh listen the audience has to has to see the line speech this is in the movie the pool movie
Starting point is 01:37:56 Rob I just seconded to you you're talking about from the one on X Rob just make sure I'm almost positive that's it You know she's not just another notch on you Yeah Robbie that's it That's not the one terrible timing out of this is a different Watch this one here
Starting point is 01:38:10 This one watch this one here Watch this one here This is This is it Watch this. Whole junkies. Look at this lion. He's the king of the jungle.
Starting point is 01:38:22 Huge main out there. He's laying down under a tree in the middle of Africa. He's so big. He's so hot. He doesn't want to move. Now, the little lion comes. They start messing with him. Biting his tail, biting his ears.
Starting point is 01:38:43 He doesn't do anything. The lioness. She starts messing with them, coming over, making trouble. Still, nothing. Now, the other animals, they notice this. And they start to move in. The jackals. Hyenas.
Starting point is 01:39:03 They're barking at him, laughing at him. They nip his toes and eat the food that's in his domain. They do this. And they get closer and closer and boulder and boulder. Until one day, that lion gets up and tears the ship everybody, runs like the wind, eats everything in his path. Because every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals. Who he is?
Starting point is 01:39:37 Wow. Wow. Pause it. What a freaking scene. You can't. So as much is. You as a leader are going through a love and joy mode, your enemies can't see it. If they see it, they will exploit it.
Starting point is 01:39:52 So as much as he may be internally there, you have to stay in psycho mode right now. He cannot show any of that. And I think he is so aware of it. I think he is so aware of it. And when he snapped at Elon, he knew he had to show everybody. Hey, guys, I know you're thinking you're the reason why I got elected. I'm the one that took the freaking three bullets.
Starting point is 01:40:14 I'm the lion. I'm the one that the bullets was shot at me. I'm the one that three times on my life. Not you. I'm the one that at 70 years old I decided a campaign. None of you guys were supporting me. You guys are all standing here. I'm the one that Tulsi was against.
Starting point is 01:40:26 J.D. was against. Rubio was against. R.F.K. was against. Elon was against. I'm that guy. And then you guys have joined my team. I'm the lion. He can't show that.
Starting point is 01:40:38 He has to show anger at times. He has to show pride at times. He has to be unpredictable at times. And he gets it. He understands this. So when they're having this whole thing with Putin, they're going back and forth. Because Putin's a lying as well. He is.
Starting point is 01:40:51 With zero emotionally. He is. He is. He totally is. But I'm telling you, I'm convinced also Putin's at a level right now where the level of mutual respect is there. There's no question about it. And the only thing that Putin has an edge over Trump is one thing. He knows Trump's got three and a half years.
Starting point is 01:41:09 Yeah, exactly. And Putin does not. Putin knows what's going on with election. Rob, what is this one here? This is Peter Ducey explaining. how the Russian the Trump-Pooten meeting came about yesterday at the White House.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Earlier today in Moscow, Steve Whitkoff was told by Vladimir Putin that Putin wants to meet at some point with Trump. Whitkoff then relayed that message to the president who is open to it, the possibility of a meeting as soon as next week, if the result of that meeting will be an end to the war in Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:41:40 We know that President Trump was on a phone call with Vladimir Zelensky and some European leaders. He shared this with all of them. We don't know exactly where in the world it would be. It could be anywhere, could be at the White House, could be in a neutral country like Qatar or Switzerland or something, the people that normally host things like this. And I have a statement from Caroline Levitt, hot off the presses, haven't seen this anywhere. It says, as President Trump said earlier today on Truth Social, great progress was made during Special Envoy Whitkoff's meeting with President Putin. The Russians expressed their desire
Starting point is 01:42:14 to meet with President Trump, and the President is open to meeting with both President Putin and President Zelensky. President Trump wants this brutal war to end. And so the emphasis there is on the Russians making this request, but President Trump obviously being open enough to it that there could be a global summit between Putin, Trump, and Zelenskyy as soon as next week. But there's also a possibility that it slides, and there's also a possibility that it never happens. Okay. So what do you think? You think any progress is going to be made to? Because just last week, what did President Trump do? Oh, you're going to be doing this? No problem. I'm pulling up two my nuclear subs to be right by you. Yeah, you have that. Go on and play this clip.
Starting point is 01:42:56 No, Dave. Nuclear submarine. Oh, yeah. Well, we had to do that. We just have to be careful. And a threat was made, and we didn't think it was appropriate. So I have to be very careful. So I do that on the basis of safety for our people. A threat was made. by a former president of Russia, and we're going to protect our people. Good. That's how you react to. Tom, your thoughts. Well, first of all, I love how the president speaks. He used the word careful twice. He used the word threat three times. So it was not brash saying, they're not coming to the negotiating table. I got to let him know who's in charge. That's not what he said. A threat was made. We didn't
Starting point is 01:43:35 think it was appropriate. We need to be careful. So in the news, the headlines from the liberal left, what have you believe this is an unhinged president and here he goes again but what really is happening is he's taking a very measured thoughtful step-by-step approach to what's going on and what happens four days after the subs move what happened after we just saw the clip you know maybe we'll meet here maybe we'll meet and by way from peter ducy says cutter half the media says cutter the other half says car yeah right so lazy so it's um well there there was an ambassador during the gulf war that corrected the American media and said it's pronounced Cutter. And so most of the old school media says Cutter.
Starting point is 01:44:17 So when you hear that, it's people that are reacting to that. But I thought it was very measured. I really like the leadership that it shows. And will anything happen? That's the question. Will anything happen here? So I'll go to that. I think we're going to get a summit.
Starting point is 01:44:33 I think we're going to get a summit because, look, conscription is happening. both Zelensky, Ukraine, and Russia are losing the hearts of their people because of conscription, the people that they're having to haul off in the vans. And they have the issues that America had in 1969 with the draft, right? And people protesting to draft in the Kent State, the four students that were shot by the National Guard in Kent State. So they have issues and reasons, both economic, local politics, to come together. And I think that all of the wins that Trump has been having, Pat, is making him stronger on the world's stage. All of these trade wins. Trade wins are made
Starting point is 01:45:19 with governments. He's winning with governments. And so I believe the body language, everything I'm seeing here, my opinion, I think we're going to get a summit. And I think Trump is going to be the arbiter in the middle of that summit. But Tom, here's my question too, and Adam, sorry to cut you off. But Tom, and I know where Pat's going, it's do you think, okay, they're in the room. It's Trump, it's Zelensky, it's Putin. What has to be, because I personally don't feel Putin's going to budge at all. Putin's that guy. His attitude is going to be, listen, I told you guys, stop pushing NATO.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Don't push the, you guys said you weren't going to move an inch. You guys are keep doing this. Everybody's kind of teaming up against us, and I warned you. I told you guys not to do it. You guys forced my hand. So what's, I think Zelensky's going to have to bow down and give it. I agree with that. Do you think Zelensky's gaining or losing energy and power right now?
Starting point is 01:46:07 He's losing not only support, he's losing the energy. I think it's over because especially with Trump and now, Zelensky's not this, you know, this, like, forced, this, like, remember, they were showing him out the Oscars. Gozzylinsky to be replaced. There's been factions in the government there that are talking about forcing a replacement of Zelensky. So he has got little stories that are leaking out now from his own government about it.
Starting point is 01:46:33 And I agree with you. I don't think Putin backs down. At all. I think Putin will accommodate, but he's got to keep his strong man persona because he's never going to give that up. And I think Zelensky is the one that backs down, but he doesn't like just came. They want to see a... Yeah, let me tell you.
Starting point is 01:46:49 If I'm Putin and Zelensky comes and pulls off and act the way that he did, Putin's not going to take it the same way Trump's going to take it. I mean, it's just not going to happen that way. If he comes up and he behaves the way that he did, and he gives all the attitude and acts like a diva, not dressed in a suit, all the bullshit stuff that he does, I'm at a point that Trump's camp is talking to Zelensky to say, you better get your act together
Starting point is 01:47:26 or else I'm going to put a 50% tariff on you. And you better put on a suit, you better look sharp, you better come ready or else I swear to God if you pull off an escapade the way you did with us at the White House I'm going to destroy you I have a feeling that message needs to be given to Zelensky if Zelensky doesn't hear that and he comes and does that to Putin's going to be like I don't trust Trump anymore you don't care you can you can't get your guy in check I think there needs to be something like that happening and I think that'll that'll prevent Putin from wanting to be a part of it I agree with that and I think all Putin
Starting point is 01:48:02 needs is a wink from the West and he will go do what he's wanted to do. Do you think he can't take Zelensky out on any given Tuesday? For sure. Exactly. All right, let's go to the next story. You want to see, just real quick? You want to see liberals lose their mind? Have
Starting point is 01:48:18 Trump work out a peace deal with Russia and Ukraine and win a Nobel Peace Prize? They will lose their mind. Because most of the liberals out there, and especially the establishment, is obviously pro-Ukraine, pro-rooting for Zelensky. imagine if Trump brokers this deal he's already been nominated for a
Starting point is 01:48:35 Nobel Peace Prize by Netanyahu by the way Cambodia and Thailand they were just about to go to war he ended that real quick we almost forgot there was a nuclear war between India and Pakistan Trump ended that real quick no Nobel Peace Prize
Starting point is 01:48:51 Obama got one within his first year for being what a cool black guy from making speech in Berlin exactly a million people so if he can pull this off and get a Nobel Proof Prize and say, you think he is? Oh, he's going to get it.
Starting point is 01:49:04 Let me tell you, man. You're acting like it's a guarantee. No, no, I'm saying that because if you don't, it is such a humiliating look on them to not wrecking. They don't have a choice but to have to give it to them,
Starting point is 01:49:21 to gain some credibility. If you don't, it is absolutely embarrassing if they don't do that. Well, what did we learn from Stephen Colbert or CBS? Sometimes I'll just double down on what their side won't. The market speaks and the market's at a point right now where dumb ideas and terrible approach to business is getting exposed. You better get track to it.
Starting point is 01:49:41 I'm going to get to the next story here. All right. So next story we got is President Trump is asking about a third term. I want this thing to be a two-in-a-story, guys. I don't want everyone's reaction. We just want a couple people. I just want to show this. He's been asked about a second term, third term.
Starting point is 01:49:53 And, well, you know, Trump 2028, here's his response. But he gives credit to two names. and one of them he's never said before. Go ahead, Rob. Unless I run again. Are you going to run again? No, probably not. Okay.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Probably not. And you're not going to fire Jay Powell. We'll go talk about all the stuff that... Hey, Becky, I'd like to run. I have the best poll numbers I've ever had. You know why? Because people love the tariffs. And they love the trade deal.
Starting point is 01:50:23 And they love that countries, and they love that foreign countries aren't ripping us off anymore. For years, they ripped us off, friend and vote. What's the one that he says, the two names, Rob? Right, that's it. Yep. So there's one where he gives two names. Right here. Different speech, but yes.
Starting point is 01:50:38 Go ahead. He got off the roof, all right? Yeah, yeah. You said this morning that you probably won't be running for a third term. This weekend, Secretary of State Rubio said that he thought J.D. Vance would be a great nominee. You could clear the entire Republican field right now. Do you agree that the heir apparent to MAGA is J.D. Vance? Well, I think most likely, in all fairness, he's the vice president.
Starting point is 01:51:04 I think Marco is also somebody that maybe would get together with J.D. in some form. I also think we have incredible people, some of the people on the stage right here. So it's too early, obviously, to talk about it. But certainly he's doing a great job, and he would be probably favored at this point. J.D. gives a shout out to J.D. finally says rubio can get in there somehow so he's saying a jd rubio combo right there rubeo ticket 202 powerful it's pretty powerful now i mean not as powerful as a newsome jb pritzker or whatever his name is but uh help us bro yeah so anyways who knows but that's the first time i
Starting point is 01:51:43 think he's acknowledged jd jd's bands being the guy it's the first time because he was asked about an endorsement it was an observation the first time he goes it's too early but he said no he said no and he goes, it's too early. It is too early. Listen, just the fact that he's talking about. It's something to be thinking about. Let's go to a couple things. So, Jaguar and Porsche.
Starting point is 01:52:00 Business stories, guys. This is business case studies of what to do and what not to do. So Jaguar, CEO steps down after woke rebrand sparked massive social media firestorm, forcing them to move on. This legendary ad here that they put up. And everybody's like, ah, not interested, man. And this is not the Jaguar I think about. So the guy had to step down.
Starting point is 01:52:24 Now, on the flip side, poor CEO seeks fresh cost cuts, warning business model no longer works in the post-Trump, New China world. So the CEO Oliver Blurne, Bloom, warned the 36,700 strong German workforce about further cost cuts planning to negotiate with the IG metal trade union for second package to protect profit margins. The company aims to eliminate more than a tent of its staff. It's 3,600 jobs. By 2029, reducing its cost base to reflect a world where it sells only 250,000 cars annually, down from 311,000 cars. That's 60,000 fewer cars.
Starting point is 01:53:09 He stated our business model that sustain us over many decades, no longer functioning today in its current form. Business conditions have deteriorated massively within a short period of. time, he highlighted a 28% plunge in China's first half vehicle sales to the lowest in 11 years impacting Porsche's EVs as the expected 80% EV sales shares by 2030 is no longer realistic. He noted on that one end, we need EVs to fulfill regional CO2 regulations, but on the other hand, the profit margins are far below those of our combustion engine cars, the decline coupled with investments in EVs like the EV EV McCann,
Starting point is 01:53:49 strains, Porsche, and its suppliers. Tom, what's going on with these automakers? Specifically, Porsche. Okay, Porsche and Jaguar. We'll start with Porsche. Europe threw a bunch of environmental laws in there, and the automakers were expecting 80% EV sales by 2030. The people that make
Starting point is 01:54:05 the laws don't know about lithium. They don't know about rare earth minerals. I shouldn't say they don't know. They are uninformed of the big turn, big left turn, that you're forcing everybody to make. So they throw these CO2 regulations of our mental laws. That's green Europe.
Starting point is 01:54:22 That is what happens. And so Porsche says, okay, we're with you. 80% EV sales by 2030. But the profit margin on an EV car without a subsidy because of the expensive rare earth metals is less than it is the classic Porsche's that run on the blood of dead dinosaurs, oil. So you go back and look at this. what happened was socialist laws impacted capitalist companies.
Starting point is 01:54:50 Capitalist companies are now sitting back and saying, oh, my gosh, we're screwed. We're not going to be 80% EVs. They're more expensive. So guess what we have to do? We have to cut. Now, you know why they have to cut? You know why I have to do it? Because they don't have a President Trump that rolled back some of this green BS here in the United States.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Trump rolled back green things in the United States. and so now the Porsche guy is still stuck. He doesn't have a President Trump. Germany, if it had a President Trump, like a helmet coal or a Merkel 1.0, wouldn't be cowtowing to all these EV targets and CO2 regulations of the Green Lobby, and they'd be able to operate. Now, Porsche is saying, I can't sell that many electric cars, and I don't make as much profit on them as I do on the regular cars.
Starting point is 01:55:36 It's a Porsche! It's meant to be a sports car. It's meant to be what it is. Now, Jaguar did the same thing. The Jaguar CEO was a 30-year CEO, 30 years in the chair. He got bit, too, because he had to make a bet on the same European environmental laws, meaning, well, the laws are this, so I guess I got to go make the bet on the EVs like this. He got screwed, and then something else did. Jaguar got deeply in bed with the green lobby, which lives right next door in the same apartment.
Starting point is 01:56:10 to the DEI lobby. Great. And he bowed down to both the green and the DEI, and he allowed his marketing to go nuts with the rebranding on DEI. And so Jaguar's CEO, after 30 years at the helm, 30 years, he has the worst year on record. He crushes his sales by 97% and he's out. But the core of it crushes.
Starting point is 01:56:35 Crushes means good. His sales drop 97%. Yeah. Not bad meaning, bad, but bad meaning good. But to the core of it, Pat, the government regulations hit both companies, and they don't have a President Trump that came in and said, not only we're going to make cars in America, but all these green regulations that are straining people, goodbye. Yeah, yeah, Adam. I have a question for Mr. Bed-David. I've seen you in many cars, sir, many different cars, but the car of choice these days is your Porsche.
Starting point is 01:57:04 Yeah. Why did you select that car? I've had many different Ferraris. I've had Lambos. I've had Bentley. I've had not Bentley. I've had Rose Roy's. The Porsche 9-11 TurboS is the most, the perfect car I've ever won in my life.
Starting point is 01:57:21 Really? Wow. I'm 6'4-245. I fit in it comfortably. The kids can sit there with me while we're going places. Rob, can you pull up the Porsche one? What were you, watch a show? And it's a phenomenal car.
Starting point is 01:57:34 it's a 2.1 second 0 to 60. Yeah, I felt it's just the back of my head. It's a beautiful, it's literally a beautiful car. I hope Porsche gets it together. But I also understand sometimes when regulators or regulators get involved and they're forcing a company to run it based on certain regulations that they want to create and they don't understand how capitalism works, they get in the way. Get the hell out of my way.
Starting point is 01:57:58 Let me produce a great product. What are you doing to me? Why are you trying to make this thing tougher? You know what I mean? Even some of the California were like, by 2035, you know, when Biden got up and said, Newsom said, by 2035, 50% of all cars in the state of California. I don't know what the number was. You must.
Starting point is 01:58:13 You must. Or else. And it's like, no, we're going to change it. No, we're going to change it. No, we're going to change it. No, we're going to change it. Yes, sir. Rob, if you can make this.
Starting point is 01:58:22 And by the way, this is a friend of ours, Brandon. And she had something to say here, Rob. I don't know if I want to show this one or the other one, but she likes a Porsche as well. She was driving my Porsche a couple days ago. I don't like to wish she drove it. Rob, play this clip. Go ahead. This episode is brought to you by Square. You're not just running a restaurant.
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Starting point is 01:59:01 because when you're doing big things, your tools should to. Visit square.ca to get started. Who gave permission for her to take my Porsche? She can take my house. Jen's going to be pissed. She is. What is it? What are you doing, lady? Jake, what are you doing, Jake?
Starting point is 01:59:31 Joe, did they really burn out your car like that? Oh, wow. Rob, do you have the other one? Play the other one, but there is another hangout one. Yeah, do me fair. Play the one, and by the way, that's the portion. They showed me that clip. I'm like, hey, she's kind of not that one, Rob.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Go to that one right there. To quote an Arnold movie. The other one, the other one. Be careful, you're going to avoid the one to. Watch this one. Watch this one. Watch this one. Watch this one.
Starting point is 01:59:55 And her manager, Brandon, was, everyone wants to win. Watch this. But most don't. in sports it's called the clutch gene that's your life the winning gene losers crave comfort make excuses talk big but freeze when it counts winners uncertainty excites them that's what gets me excited the winner gene that's why i'm going to the ball conference oh wow she's smart By the way, she's got a great personality for sure.
Starting point is 02:00:27 Rob, are you? Are those real? Are they fake? Real? Is that the same shirt she was wearing? Can we get to rock first? Wait, out. Guys, go to the VaultConference.com.
Starting point is 02:00:35 Get your tickets. Literally while I'm sitting here, a ton of CO tickets were just sold one by one by one. I wonder why. No, I'm not previous today. Let me take one guest, BBD. But yes, but the point going back to it, folks, if you are somebody that's, running a business, I'm telling you, or you want to be in a room with people that
Starting point is 02:00:56 are getting in a right bus, with people that are in your ear, don't want to do bigger things for themselves, get to the vault conference. Bring yourself and your spouse, come there to the vault conference, go to the wallconference.com, buy your ticket. If you can afford to get the CEO, that's the right ticket to get. But if you can't, even if it's
Starting point is 02:01:12 general, get in the room. All of us will be there as well. September 8th through 11. Gaylord, Orlando, in Orlando, Florida. Be there or be left in the dust. Cannot wait for it. So that, that's the Porsche story for us, but let's get to the next story. Let's get to the next story. Let's get to the next story. All right. So, um, I'm going to go with this one here. The 996 work schedule could be coming to your workplace soon. What is 996? Let me tell you what 996 means. The 996 isn't
Starting point is 02:01:42 the old Porsche where we just talk about Porsche. We're not talking about that Porsche. The 996 is working nine to nine six days a week. Some people are worried that's coming to a city near you. Okay. So let's read this great story here. AI startups are adopting the 996 work schedule where employees work 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. 6 days a week, Monday through Saturday to outpace Chinese rivals in the AI race. But Tekkinder Parmar, writing in the ink, warns that this grueling schedule could hurt instead of help productivity. Rob, please find out who this person is. Tekendra Parmar, another journalist that wants to tell us how to build.
Starting point is 02:02:22 businesses, while he uses Apple iPhone, ran by two founders, that seven is how they work, experts call this culture corporate abuse with Caitlin Collins, organizational psychologist and program strategy director at BetterWorks, stating the notion that working nine to nine, six days a week drives innovation, is deeply misleading. As research shows, sustained overwork leads to burnout, cognitive fatigue, and disengagement. A British study indicates employees working over 11-hour days are 67% more likely to have a heart attack and over 54 hours a week
Starting point is 02:02:56 increases the risk of Karoshi the Japanese term for death from overwork. Oh, God, all these things are adding. Tom, what are your thoughts on the story here? First of all, they're conflating two things that they don't understand and I will say that by the right, I don't know this right.
Starting point is 02:03:11 This is the person? We're supposed to take it. So what is this guy done? That's what my head was like in the morning. No, no. That's the middle of the morning. What is this person done? What have they built?
Starting point is 02:03:21 I want to know what this guy's built. If he's built companies and sold them, I'm going to give him so much respect. No, no, he says he's worked at seven magazines. I'm an editor who's worked at these places. I'm a business insider's tech theater where I commissioned deeply wrote. I'm currently an adored consultant available to running this magazine. I'm also available for select writing projects for a nation, fortune businesses.
Starting point is 02:03:43 A writer, a journalist, talking to doers of what to do. Makes a lot of sense. Go ahead, Tom. Tell us. So I don't know this gentleman at all, and so I'm not judging him personally. I'm going to judge him. You don't need to do it. But no, no, but I can judge his written word.
Starting point is 02:04:00 And his written word... I'm just telling you. His written word is actually, although I'm a fan of his haircut, and I once fell in love with someone that had a haircut like that. Matter of fact, guys, he's here. What was his name? He is here sitting right next to me. He is officially here.
Starting point is 02:04:16 I love it. Oh, my God. You see in the house. Hang on a second. This is called incredible technology. Whatever the hell it is. Oh, my goodness. Don't work nine.
Starting point is 02:04:28 What the hell are you guys talking about? I'm a writer. Thank you. I'm a podcaster. Wow. So now I'm going to narrow up. Their cousins. After that levity, let me narrow up the answer after this point of levity, which I enjoyed.
Starting point is 02:04:44 You're about this writer. Get to the point, Tom. This writer, yeah. Tom, get to the point. So there are part timers or full timers who are all the timers, and all the timers are usually entrepreneurs that are operating with passion. People that have a J.O.B often don't understand the all the timers. And the all the timers, what we're talking about here, is 996. It's not 996. It's 24-7 because you're living, you're breathing it.
Starting point is 02:05:09 And that's what it's all about. And there are people that want to win, that want to conquer, they want to be the Black Swan. That's the 996 work culture. It's not an enforced culture. It's not a labor camp. If you don't want that, you have the freedom to go work somewhere else. Now, when they're talking about the Japanese karoshi, they're mostly talking about, you can go look at it from the 80s and 90s where there was overwork and there was a Japanese culture that was in force of overwork and guys were having heart attacks at their desk. Yes, that happened.
Starting point is 02:05:40 But this over here, what we're talking about, 996, no, these are people with passion building new companies that say, I want to be the black swan, and I'm willing to pay the price to be the black swan because I need to be sharper, better, more informed, more ahead, and more paranoid in the words of Andy Grove to get there. I stand corrected then. I'm for him then. I don't understand. You change my mind. Tom, how can you stand there and deliver a passion business speech when this guy's looking at your face right next to him? I'm telling you right now he changed my mind.
Starting point is 02:06:12 Now I'm pro. You know what? Get your butts to work. Because this is commentary, and this is Vinny giving what I call intelligent commentary. Really? Even though he looks like Cousin It from that in his family. Okay. For anybody that remembers that.
Starting point is 02:06:28 Listen, listen, because I'm, listen, I know we're on a podcast. This is a serious thing. Never take advice from anybody that looks like this. Okay, I'm just telling you guys right now. This doesn't know what the hell they're talking. If you're just a writer. I'm waiting for Pat to weigh in. All the timers, entrepreneurs are passionate.
Starting point is 02:06:44 Let me give you an answer here. giving it to you. There is a lady once that said to Arnold. I don't know if you've heard the story or not. She says to Arnold, she says, I would never marry a man like you. She says, don't worry, you never will. Okay. You know, if a man ever look like you, I would never be with them. It says, don't worry, you never will, because they're not going to look like me. If a person wants to build a startup, they don't understand what 996 is. The startup guys are not even like, I'm going to work from 9 to 9 to 9, 6 days a week. When you go from an element of flirting with something, then being interested in something, then being committed to something, then being obsessed, you can't get somebody that's obsessed to get something out of their mind.
Starting point is 02:07:34 I agree. My oldest son, Vinny, if you're around him, what is he going to talk about? Tico? Yes. Tico, we're talking about, please. Watch this. Watch this. We're talking politics.
Starting point is 02:07:46 Yes. We're talking like literally policies, world stuff. We're talking about movie characters. Movie characters. He's going to places that are just like, if this character did this, and he's, by the way, his brain is going movies, upset, politics, stuff that's happening in the world. It's everywhere. It's in a positive way.
Starting point is 02:08:03 So, by the way, don't worry. No one's going to force you to work 996 days a week. These guys are not going and telling people you better work 996 days a week. These people are saying if you're going to be here, we're all the time. but you're going to get equity, so you're going to own a piece of the company. And if we build this into a multi-billion-dollar company, you're going to get a few million dollars of exit. And that's going to be life-changing money for you. But if you want to go, it's 9 to 9, 9, 6 days a week.
Starting point is 02:08:25 No, I don't think that's healthy for you. Don't worry, you're not making that decision. What do you think it's like when you're at war? What do you think happens to the people that are deployed there in Afghanistan? What do you think life looks like in a military when you're going there? What do you think happens there? What do you think happens to people that are, you know, playing sports at the highest-level competitiveness, training, doing all.
Starting point is 02:08:45 What do you think coaches do? Football coaches getting up 3 o'clock in the morning to come to the office, to look at the plays, to prepare for the training. Maybe players get rest. You think coaches get rest? You think football coaches get rest. I'm with Coach Kay yesterday, and he's talking about the fact that he got three stents in his heart, two surgeries on his knees, all this other stuff, won all these championships,
Starting point is 02:09:04 won three gold medals, one the greatest college football coach basketball coaches of all time. These guys in all the time, he's 70-some years old, up on stage on fire, says, I haven't been in an arena with this many people in front of me for three years. He wasn't speaking to 11 o'clock. He was at 845 talking to everybody watching all these videos. He didn't have to do that. That's not part of the contract. We didn't pay him for him to be prepared. That's him. That's who he is. If somebody is an all-the-timer, you're not going to change them. And if somebody is lazy, maybe you can get him from a little bit to a five or a six. One of my favorite quotes
Starting point is 02:09:40 on my affirmation list that I had is sometimes on a way to a dream you get lost and find a bigger one sometimes on a way to a dream you get lost and find a bigger one when something catches your heart you will never for the rest of your life meet a person like that ever again never and with Hart we're talking about a quote for many years ago that we would constantly talk about it was I'm confident in my preparation
Starting point is 02:10:02 humble in victory and loss cocky in my predictions let me say that one more time confident in my preparation, humble in victory or loss, and cocky with my predictions. You know whose quote that is? Connor McGregor, back in the days, when he was confident in preparation,
Starting point is 02:10:25 humble and victory and loss, and in cocky in prediction. That was him when nobody wanted to face him. Back in the days, when he was training and taking it seriously, I'd love for him to do that again, because I'd love to see him fight at the White House next to against him.
Starting point is 02:10:38 or that'd be a great fight to watch. But nobody goes and builds an Apple company because somebody told them to build a $3, $4 trillion company, Steve and Steve, you guys got to work 9 to 9, 6 days a week. They're like, what? We're not working 9 to 9 to 9. We're working all day, 7 days a week for 5, 10 years
Starting point is 02:10:53 because we're going to kill everybody. I want to compete. They don't read an article like this from some guy like this with a beautiful hairdo and say, I'm going to go out there and do that. Go ahead, Adam. Yeah, well, some people are just allergic to hard works. Some people in America are just allergic to work.
Starting point is 02:11:06 You know, we had a conversation at breakfast yesterday, and I said, Pat, you talked about responsibilities and what it takes to be a man. I said, Pat, I don't know anybody that works as hard as you. I just don't. And then I asked you, how many people do you know, like actual names that work as hard as you? And there weren't many names that came to mind. Obviously, there's billionaires that have built ridiculous companies that you're not necessarily friends with or in touch with.
Starting point is 02:11:36 but Tom said So there's part timers There's full timers There's all the timers And then there's just What I would classify as Obsessed I'd put you in that obsessed category
Starting point is 02:11:47 How do you get to that category You weren't always obsessed were you Hey how you doing? I got a time sitting Okay Was I always obsessed? Were you always obsessed? No
Starting point is 02:11:56 I was not always obsessed with Some like this You know So you You're never going to meet That next version of you until something catches your heart and it's like a flame, boom,
Starting point is 02:12:10 I can't get it out of me. I got obsessed with politics very early on in 0809 when I went to a speech with George Will, but I held it back on creating content and talking about it. I just wanted to talk business. And then COVID happened,
Starting point is 02:12:25 and I saw what was going on with some of the stuff they were pushing. I'm like, I can't stop. I'm going to start talking about it. And everybody told me you're making a mistake because you haven't sold your insurance company yet. And half your company, people are not Republicans. They're not conservatives. They're not capitalist. Be very careful. I'm like, I'm a, you know, at the time, libertarian, capitalist, pro-family. These were my values. But I don't, you know, our company was 24% African-American, 54% Hispanic. You can't talk about this. I'll say, I'm going to talk about that stuff. Why? It was obsessed. I was not going to let kids, you know, convincing parents that puberty blockers for 90-year-olds a good thing. That all these things that, hey, take the vaccine, whatever. Why can't I do investigation and take my time? You better take it.
Starting point is 02:13:05 Why? Why are you in such a hurry? Let me take my time. Let me do some. No, no, no, no, you got to. No, I don't got to. I want to do a little recent. No, you can't. Strike, strike, strike. Strike, strike. Strike this. Everything was. So until you get to that point where somebody pisses you off, where you finally are like, I'm not going to live this life, it's not going to change. Or a dream. Something inspires you. We're kind of like, I think I can do X, XYZ. I feel like we're on our way to do something big with a group that I'm a part of. It's a very, magical feeling. When you have it, you know it. You can only explain it to other people who have
Starting point is 02:13:41 had it before. Let's hit the last story and wrap up. Let's set the last story and wrap up. And I'm trying to see, let's hit the Netanyahu's story. Netanyahu believes occupying Gaza is the only way to save the hostages, but it will also start bloodiest phase of the war, yet experts warn. Rob, I think you got a clip on this one here. I have two. I have ABC News report, and then I have President Trump being asked about it. Go for it. Sources telling ABC News, Prime Minister Netanyahu wants to expand the war and occupy all of Gaza and get the hostages home.
Starting point is 02:14:15 At least that is what's been leaked to the press. If it happens, it would be a really radical departure from the negotiations that have been broken by the U.S. and Arab countries who have effectively been trying unsuccessfully to agree another ceasefire and the release of those still being held. Video showing two hostages looking emaciated have shocked this country and put more pressure on Netanyahu. We had Steve Wickoff, President Trump's special envoy, telling hostage families just a couple of days ago
Starting point is 02:14:45 we were very, very close to a solution to end this war and that all hostages will be released at once rather than in stages. But honestly, Diane, there's no sense of how this will happen. Intense bombing and mass starvation have failed to force Hamas to relent. The militants calling Israel's latest threats, repetitive, worthless and without influence. Families fear a military operation in the areas. There's families that are those still being held. Fear that any expanded military operation, especially into the areas where they think their loved ones are being held, will risk their lives.
Starting point is 02:15:22 The brother of one of the hostages looking painfully thin in that video telling me that Hamas is using his brother, the other hostages, and the people of Gaza as bargaining. Let's see what Trump says here. Let's see what Trump says here about the same exact thing. Call for it. Would you support Israel reoccupying all of Gaza has been suggested by some Israeli officials? Well, I don't know what the suggestion is.
Starting point is 02:15:48 I know that we are there now trying to get people fed. As you know, $60 million was given by the United States fairly recently to supply food and a lot of food, frankly, for the people of Gaza that are obviously not doing too well with the food. And I know Israel is going to help us with that in terms of distribution and also money. We also have the Arab states are going to help us with that in terms of the money and possibly distribution. So that's what I'm focused on. As far as the rest of it, I really can't say that's going to be pretty much up to Israel.
Starting point is 02:16:23 Yeah. Tom. So, you know, when you look at this and what's going on, first of all, there's a humanitarian crisis that is going on with citizens in Gaza, the people of Gaza, they're there and they're caught in the middle. Hamas hides behind them, and you feel for them. There's also people there that voted for this and ended up with it. And so, which sucks. And so I think that what's going on right now is we're trying to get aid in, as the president said, to help the people that are there who are basically refugees. And on the other hand, Netanyahu is basically saying, and let me see if I can translate for BB. And I'm not speaking for him, but he's saying occupation is how we're going to get it. Or, man, the deep hidden tunnels and terrorists still exist.
Starting point is 02:17:21 and it may be messy, but we may have to go in there with an even deeper occupying presence to solve this and to solve it for good. And people are going to say, oh, well, BB's, you know, he's committing genocide with his, no, that's not what he's saying. So I think he's saying is it might be really messy to get in and to do what we have to do to take this to its final phase. And Trump is saying, along the way, we're trying to get. you know, refugee
Starting point is 02:17:53 support to the people of Gaza, to the citizens. Benny. I mean, deadlier and crazier than what is, if it's going to get deadlier and bloodier than what has already happened, then dude, I have, I'm just going to pray for those people because it's
Starting point is 02:18:09 how much worse can it get? A couple last week, it was the deadliest yet for aid seekers, 21 months of war. 85 Palestinians were killed trying to get food. Not Hamas holding them or any of that of stuff, Tommy. It was just saying, this is the UN saying more than 400 Palestinians were killed. There's IDF soldiers that told Herr, it's H-A-A-A-R-E-T-Z, which is an Israeli newspaper,
Starting point is 02:18:31 that they're ordered to fire at unarmed crowds near food distribution sites, even when no threats are present. Okay, then you have Israeli's Minister Ben Gavir calling Netanyahu morally bankrupt for even allowing aid into Gaza. He said the starvation of Palestinians should continue. His words were the only thing to send into Gaza is shells. Okay? And then Republican Congressman Randy Fine recently said it could have been in May Rob, I don't know the
Starting point is 02:18:59 exact date. He says, and Rob, do you have that clip? I'll have him say back. He says we nuked the Japanese twice in order to get unconditional surrender. This is it right here. Listen to what he says. We nuked the Japanese twice in order to get unconditional surrender. That needs to be the same here.
Starting point is 02:19:15 There's something deeply, deeply wrong with this culture and it needs to be defeated. We heard in Brooks. Okay, so I mean, nuke, nuking the entire place, and I get it, and a lot of people are saying, and I think, who do we see yesterday? Megan Kelly and even
Starting point is 02:19:31 Charlie Kirk were mentioning, it's like, guys, you can be critical about, because people are going after them because they're not going all in on everything that the government of Israel is doing, but I think these type of things have to be addressed. How is it going to get bloodier when the death tolls already, 60,000 people have already died in the conflict,
Starting point is 02:19:49 a thousand have died at distribution sites. Journalists, and here's the thing that bothers me, Pat, journalists aren't allowed, they're banned from entering Gaza to report what is happening. When's the last time you saw, we just saw a couple of soldiers shooting, I don't know what year that's from, you can't see what's happening. And I get the fact that there's hostages. I understand that, but what we know as American government,
Starting point is 02:20:13 as the American stance on terrorism is what? We do not negotiate with terrorists. Okay, whatever you're going to do, you should have been doing it already. If they're so tactically, Pat, Israel, we saw in this last operation, what were they doing in Iran? They had, they blew up a part of a building where just the apartment of where the guy was blown up happened. And we got to this point because of what. Adam, we're talking about this in the hotel room yesterday, October 7th. And now we're hearing from Israeli soldiers, Pat, IDF soldiers in their Congress, and I sent Rob the video,
Starting point is 02:20:47 they're saying that they got on October 7, stand-down orders in the hours of when this attack happened. And then Michael Flynn was on a podcast yesterday saying that he was talking to people as well. Is this it, Rob? I mean, it's really long, Rob. Yeah, it's wrong. I'll just tell you guys what he said. He was saying from people that they were getting stand-down orders, and these are IDF soldiers. And I wouldn't even play that clip too, which always got back to who was the guy, Pat, that we talked about, that said, now is not the time.
Starting point is 02:21:14 It was two weeks after October 7. John Kirby. John Kirby said, now is not the time. It's been this far along, where we are right now, they had warnings. Egypt even warned Benjamin Nanyahu about this day. It happened. Now you're hearing all this stuff, and I'm like, you want to get bloodier? Can we fix the problem that's happening right now?
Starting point is 02:21:33 And it's the starving people and the people trying to get food that are getting shot at. Isn't Trump trying to get the money in there, number one? Trump's trying to get the money in there. Isn't there two issues? Is where we are right now. and then did FDR know that the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor? And is that why he took the aircraft carriers out? We have these conspiracies that have gone back and forth about countries getting into war.
Starting point is 02:21:54 Okay, that's October 7th. You could debate that another time. What do you think right now Trump trying to get aid in and what Netanyahu's saying now? I think separating it from October 7th and who did or didn't. I think getting to the point where Trump, listen, Trump has a heart. They asked them on Air Force one a couple of weeks ago. I want to say one and a half weeks ago. So the report is like, hey, Malani, he's even said,
Starting point is 02:22:15 Melania is worried about this. He goes, they're starving. He goes, something has to change because us caring about those people, those innocent people, it's not anti-Semitic. I'm not pro-Hamas. I'm just tactically, you could be doing a better job. Because that anti-Semitic, like, then people around the world are judging,
Starting point is 02:22:35 and I don't agree with it, they're hating all, they're labeling all Jewish people. No, no. If you're going to go after the problem, say it exactly. You know? Oh, it's the Jews. No, no, no. It's Bibi Netanyahu's government that's not going about this in the right way. Because when I see starving children, right way according to who? Meaning, like, what do you mean? What is the right way according to? So, for example, they say Trump is not going the right way about all the illegal immigrants we have, according to who? Trump's not going the right way about renegotiating tariffs with companies, according to who? So according to who is Bibi not going the right way? Okay, I'll give my opinion. I can't speak for everybody. I think if the problem is what's happening with Gaza
Starting point is 02:23:16 and there's people trying to get food to eat and they're stopping, not only stopping the food, they're giving orders to shoot at unarmed crowds pat. I have a huge problem with that. Being a veteran as well, that type of stuff, getting orders, you know what orders means? It's coming from the top. Somebody's telling you, listen, if they're getting wild,
Starting point is 02:23:37 shoot them. That right there, that tactical move pat. And again, hostages and all that, that's a whole different... It's, Vinny, when you're saying that, like, we did that. America. Of course we did. It doesn't make it right. No, but it's not about it makes it right or it doesn't make it right.
Starting point is 02:23:51 Iran did that. Middle East. War is nasty. Very, very nasty. Do I support that behavior? No, I was a kid in Iran when Saddam and Iraq was attacking us, and it's scary as hell. And we were frightened moving from Tehran to Karaj to Bandar Palav. to rash. We're just keep moving until finally we're like, let's get the hell out of here.
Starting point is 02:24:13 It was so bad that we went to Germany to be at a refugee camp. I'm not supportive of it, but according to who. So when I hear stories like this with specifically Israel, Netanyahu, he's doing what he's doing. All right. So in America, we'll sit there and, you know, there'll be the guys on the side that are, you know, Jude is, Israel, this, all this, other stuff. I can't believe what they're doing. I can't believe what they're doing with this. All right, cool. There's a faction that Israel can't do nothing right. Then there's a faction that says, Israel can't do nothing wrong. Both of those people have zero credibility with me.
Starting point is 02:24:47 I agree. Okay, zero credibility with me. When you're only looking at that everything Israel, Jews, you lose, I'm not listening to you because you're being unreasonable. And when the people can't do anything wrong, you're also, I don't want to hear what you have to say because you're also full of it, right? But for me, if he's choosing to do this and he goes about it and does it himself, You know, the history, we have in America, every single state that we have.
Starting point is 02:25:12 This is not California. It's Mexico. This is not this. This is, this is, this is a, what do you think we did? Did you live in California? Did we live in a lot of these states? How did you think it happened? You think it was pretty?
Starting point is 02:25:22 You think it was, what are we talking about? Like, we're talking about, like, as if it's going to happen. Like, these types of things are going to happen all over the place. They have to handle it. My problem is, hey, you say you can do it? Can you do it with your money? What do you need? If you want to do by yourself, go do it.
Starting point is 02:25:39 don't support it. I'm not going to get up and great job. We endorse this behavior. And that's exactly what he's doing. He said, hey, my wife has even talked about what are he doing over that. We feeding the guys or not. You don't think behind closed doors, he's talking to BB and saying something like this. Hey, Bibi, let me explain some to you. I swear to God, if the next time I send you food, if it doesn't make it to the people that need to do something, you lose anything you want from me. You're not going to get it. You don't think he says something like that? Does Trump give you the vibe that he's being pushed around by Bibi? Really? Not at all. Let's go talk about this. We talked about this. You and I had dinner.
Starting point is 02:26:09 other night. Well, we read this sushi spot. I don't remember the name of it, but you know which one I'm talking about. Amazing. We're sitting there and it's like, wow, Massad has all these assets on Americans. Okay, hey, let's talk to you. The person that says Masada has assets on Americans, because I believe they do. I actually believe that Mossad did use people like Epstein, Robert Maxwell, and a lot of other people today in the system like the waltzes some of these stores. Of course. I do believe they have assets in America. I believe it to have it on the internal side. But if you and I are presidents, bro, let's say, you. you're a president.
Starting point is 02:26:40 Yeah. And massage shows, Hey, Vinnie, you better fund this, this, this and this. And you're the president or else we're going to do this.
Starting point is 02:26:49 Yeah. Let's say they show a picture from you from 28 years ago. Let's say they have something on what you did from 26 years ago. Me with the underage girl. Whatever it is. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 02:26:58 let's say they have that. Okay. Who becomes a president without having a big ego? Nobody. Of course. What are you going to do if somebody threatens you like that
Starting point is 02:27:06 to publicly humiliate you? And we talked about this? What are you going to do? The moment. that meeting's over. I'm going to my intelligence. And what are you going to do? Get your asses in gear and go find everything on this guy.
Starting point is 02:27:16 I want you to go, money, just do it. Do you think President has dirt on BB right now? Oh, for sure. Do you think President has dirt on a bunch of people in Israel right now? 100%. How do you think this works? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:29 You want to play 3D tests? Let's go. Let's freaking go. You think we're not going to sit here and get assets on you? Of course. You think you walk on flip of water? You think BB's this. perfect looking guy that's getting everything done?
Starting point is 02:27:41 No, there's dirt on him as well. So the only thing I got when I hear stories like this, he's going to do this. President's going to sit there and say, I don't support this behavior. But if he does, what are you going to do it? He has to protect this country. It's part of his job.
Starting point is 02:27:56 If he doesn't do it right, they're going to kill him. If they kill him, he won't be the first leader they do this too. They're going to not support him. He's going to get out. Stuff's going to happen. And by the way, they're not letting any media in. Go get media and Iran. Go ahead. Go get media and China. Go go move Facebook over there. Thank you. Go move on. Where are like what places? This the only there's a reason why America is the greatest country in the world. Israel is not the greatest country in the world. Israel is not the greatest country in the world. Not China. Not Brazil. Not India. America. Number one, greatest country in the world.
Starting point is 02:28:41 And for us to think that these guys are going to come and push us around, dude, come and put intel on me. Guy came up to me with a threat. I'm going to go public with this. I said, I'm going to say it publicly. Don't worry about it. And then I did. Now what are you going to do?
Starting point is 02:28:56 Hey, Ph.P, this is when I was running my insurance company, a couple of my guys came. I'm going to say it from stage. Go ahead and threaten me. Then I get intel on you. You want to play that game with me? You don't think I'm going to do that to you? I don't, I think it's naive when people say Netanyahu, Trump is, what do you call it? Oh, it is such a massive insult to the country.
Starting point is 02:29:19 It's a massive insult for you to go from zero to here. You were just supporting now he's this bad guy. You don't know all the stories behind closed doors. You don't know what's happening. I'm not a pro-Bibi guy. You've never heard me talk complimentary of BB. Have you ever heard me get up there and say, He's the greatest things now.
Starting point is 02:29:38 People can accuse me of talking a complimenter of Putin. Yes, guess what? I have. Guilty. You've never heard me speak complimentary of Zelensky, and you've never heard me speak complimentary of Netanyahu. But at the same time, I understand why Zelensky is protecting Ukraine. I understand why they killed hundreds of thousands of people with Russia.
Starting point is 02:29:57 I understand why Netanyahu is doing what he's doing. That's his agenda. And you and I don't have to agree with his agenda, but it's his agenda. somebody else doesn't like it vote for someone else kick them out you got elections in Israel get the hell out of there and bring somebody else and that's going to do a better job
Starting point is 02:30:12 but till then these kinds of things are not going away Vinny and again I feel behind closed doors Trump is making that call and saying hey you cross the line you don't have my support I don't think he's being bullied around the way people make it seem out to be
Starting point is 02:30:27 Trump specifically yeah see and I'm not thinking about the bullying part of it I'm thinking of the fact that you know well you mentioned Russia, China, and Iran with the media stuff, they're not our ally. They're not our, we don't give them $4 billion a year. When that's the case, and I'm giving Adam a bunch of money, then Adam takes my money under my name and is doing all this type of stuff.
Starting point is 02:30:48 I'm going to say, hey, Adam, wait, time out, bro. I need to see how you're spending my, what are you doing with my money? By the way, let me ask you, so you give me $4 billion a year. Yeah. And I'm Israel. If I give you $4 billion. Let's say you'd give me $4 billion a year. What do you think you're getting in return?
Starting point is 02:31:03 I don't even know. What? Really? Meaning, technically in the Middle East? What do you think you're getting a return if you give me $4 billion? Let's actually negotiate this. Okay. What do you think you get in return if you give me $4 billion here?
Starting point is 02:31:14 Arms purchases, cooperation. It's a big list. Honestly. Intelligence, technology. What do you think if you're giving me, what am I getting in return? You think it's just a handout? No, no. I'm saying if they're strategically set up in the Middle East where we have an ally in the
Starting point is 02:31:28 Middle East and we're giving them, I mean. What do you think you get in return? I honestly don't even know. Really? I swear. So what do you get intel from? Where do we get intel on all the Middle Eastern countries around? Where?
Starting point is 02:31:38 Okay, there. I'm saying $4 billion is a lot of money. No, $4 billion is actually not a lot of money when it comes onto government. It's really not. Literally. A lot of money is, Apple is agreeing to invest $600 billion. That's a lot of money. $4 billion, when you're talking at the government level, it's what $40,000 is to civilians.
Starting point is 02:32:01 that's not a lot of money I'm being very serious with it's not a lot of money but what they're getting in return is certain assets that they want by the way going back and looking at all the terms on how they negotiate stuff with Clinton and all the other guys
Starting point is 02:32:17 historically I've said this on the record Israel's always negotiated favorably whose fault is that politicians fault Israel's always overnegotiated America
Starting point is 02:32:31 And they've owned a bunch of people in America. Aggressively. Yes, on the record. They've done that. No question about it. So to me, my trust goes into a candidate like Trump who is in. If you voted him in, you expect perfection within six months. You should have never voted him.
Starting point is 02:32:51 You're in the wrong business. What he's done in six months, no president's done in two years. Let's see what he's going to do in the next couple years. But I'm not convinced he's going to sit there being pushed around. and I think he's renegotiating a lot of different things. And I actually think a part of it he has, Bibi needing him. Bibi's never faced an unpredictable candidate like Trump, ever. He's never faced an unpredictable candidate like Trump.
Starting point is 02:33:14 So as you go to what B.B. wants, okay? Because this is going to the hostages, right? They want the hostages? I understand that 100%. What's the end? Meaning, how do you think you're going to get them back from terrorists if you're going to go attack? You know, it's the fate of the terrorists. it's not going to be like a negotiation
Starting point is 02:33:30 if you're going to go into war he knows that they're going to they're going to die at that point but I imagine like if you if you're going and you're like okay enough is enough we're going all in those those hostages are going to
Starting point is 02:33:41 what did what did Reagan do when he was negotiating with terrorists the famous line you said earlier we don't negotiate with terror so what do you do like so Reagan said that Reagan's a great president BB says that BB's a bad person what's the difference here
Starting point is 02:33:55 I'm actually curious no I'm just saying I'm saying what is this we say you don't negotiate with terrorists, but another guy says it, oh, no, it's, do we forget Reagan says we don't negotiate with terrorists? Do we forget some of the stuff that we said? Do we not celebrate when the stuff happened with Osam Soleimani? I don't understand the over-sensitivity topic with Israel. I have a very hard time understanding it. I get it. Trust me. They over-negotiate
Starting point is 02:34:18 a lot of deals, but it's like overly, overly, overly-sensitive topic when it comes there, as if they rule the world, and they don't. And Vinnie. Yeah. It's, it's, and by the way. I'm not saying they rule the world. No. I'm just saying when it comes to America, again, I'm America first.
Starting point is 02:34:37 Yeah. Period. I'm not America only. Okay. I'm just saying when I see bad stuff happening, I get it. Pat, I was in during 9-11, which that's a whole other conversation. No, you're not America only. You're not America first.
Starting point is 02:34:48 I'm also America first. Yes. We're both America first. 100%. We're, you know, when we talk about this stuff, to me, I watch the over sensationalism of what's going on with this of turning it into something bigger than it really is. And then I also meet the guys that come that from Israel and they tell me how perfect everything, I'm like, dude, stop, stop. Stop, stop.
Starting point is 02:35:08 Don't do that with me like, oh, my God, everything is perfect. No, I get it. I know what you're doing. I know what your motives are. I fully understand what you're supporting Israel and I respect the fact that you support Israel. I get it. Totally understand.
Starting point is 02:35:20 But I'm banking on the guy that I got on his boss. the example of Coach K, Trump, that he's going to be able to negotiate favorably better than any other president we've ever had before. That doesn't mean on 100% of all issues because that's called impossible. And every commentator on news media podcaster that acts like this is what he should do,
Starting point is 02:35:47 let's put you in there and see what you would do within a second. Go ahead. You go get the job. They make it seem like they would be incredible presidents negotiating everything perfectly. No, this game is hard, and he's the best one we've had so far in the way he's negotiating. Doesn't mean you have to support everything he's doing. Doesn't mean you can't criticize
Starting point is 02:36:03 him. Doesn't mean you can't sit there. I'm the guy that at this panel gave the lowest score after 100 days to Trump. And I get a message from a bunch of liberals telling me, hey, great job on your analysis. I give a C-minus, and a bunch of Trump people are pissed off at me. And you give me A-minus on that. I give me A-minus. I give a C-minus. You know what I got? Messages I got. What a freaking
Starting point is 02:36:21 trade? I'm like, no, this is my position. I'm not trying to win or make friends. I'm telling you where I'm at. You don't like it. Go watch somebody else. they give me an A plus. I'm not that guy. But when it flips, I'll also give that score, Tom. Yeah. In terms of strategy, Vinnie, I have killed all the hostages is usually the last words of an enemy
Starting point is 02:36:41 that's about to be overrun. Because you're being very careful. Why? Because there's hostages. You're trying to be surgical. You're trying to get to the tunnels because there's hostages. You're trying to go door to door and be very precise about who you take out because there's hostages. The minute You take pictures and said, we've killed all the hostages, so there I unleash hell. Yeah, it's a green light.
Starting point is 02:37:04 Right, for sure. So that's not usually the way terrorists operate. At the core of terrorism is cowardice, and I've killed all the hostages is usually an incredibly weak negotiating position that results in horrors. Yeah, and you know what? Honestly, on this topic, I want to hear nothing from Adam here. That's true. That's true. I fully understand why you wouldn't want to hear from me.
Starting point is 02:37:25 Go ahead, Adam. Well, let me be, when it comes to Israel and what's going on in Gaza, let me be completely logical and not emotional because we saw what happened last time when I got emotional and I freaked out, so let me just be completely logical. Number one, the Muslim world does not care about Palestinians. If they did, they would take them in, much like Israel took in people from literally countless countries, dozens of countries after the Holocaust. not one Arab or Muslim country has stepped up to take in Palestinians. Egypt hasn't done it. Jordan hasn't done it. Saudi hasn't done it.
Starting point is 02:38:04 Iran certainly hasn't done it. Lebanon, Syria. The list goes on. You know who has done it? France, UK, the woke world. If I was advising BB Netanyahu, here's what I would tell him. Keep doing what you're doing. Do not listen to one single iota of word from the woke.
Starting point is 02:38:23 They have no clue what it's like to live literally next to terrorists. You know, usually when you lose a war, there's a clear winner and loser. Israel's not allowed to win a war. The best they can do is draw. Why is Israel, which they're doing, responsible for feeding the country they're at war with? Is Russia feeding Ukraine? Is Thailand feeding Cambodia? is Pakistan feeding India?
Starting point is 02:38:55 Zero. Did America feed Afghanistan or feed Iraq? Why is Israel expected to feed the country that is sworn to kill them? Now, you talk about negotiating with terrorists. They're literally negotiating with a terrorist group that is sworn to kill them. And now you want... Okay, so let's go there. Palestine deserves their own state.
Starting point is 02:39:18 Let's give them their own state. Who's running the state? Well, it's Hamas. So now you're going to have a Hamas, the terrorist organization, run the country you want. To me, it's a complete non-starter. Bibi and Trump, what you say goes. That's it. All right.
Starting point is 02:39:33 And on that note, if you guys want to support Adam's APAC campaign, we have a website for you guys to go to. But if you want to message Adam and tell them you agree with them or not, here's this Menect. Vinny broke an all-time record last month in a month. What is our dinner? When is our dinner? It's coming up in a couple weeks. The people that one, they know about it. We're going to have it here soon.
Starting point is 02:39:58 It's going to be fun. It's going to be exciting. Gang, once again, the last thing I'll tell you, the 20 threats webinar that's coming up, Rob. If you can go to the website, go to vtwebinar.com. Register to get that white paper. We're going to do this every single year to give that report to you. Go to vtwebinar.com. Put it into your calendar, August 19th, 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
Starting point is 02:40:17 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. We've got to get out of here to get on a flight. to go to L.A. To L.A. We're coming to you, but we're not coming where you think. No. But we are coming to L.A.
Starting point is 02:40:28 We're going to see some of you guys. Live and die in L.A. I'm going to become trans, Pat, thank you for an awesome Vegas trip, Ph.P event. This was amazing. If you guys are watching a Ph.P, great job.
Starting point is 02:40:37 Integrity, great job. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. Take everybody.
Starting point is 02:40:40 God bless. Bye-bye, bye, bye. Bye. Bye was a must-up thing. Thank you.

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