PBD Podcast - Trump EXTENDS Iran Deadline + Nuclear Suicide Vests? w/ Sean Hannity | PBD #766

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

Sean Hannity, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down Donald Trump extending the Iran war deadline amid nuclear negotiations, JD Vance warns of Iranian terrorists using Nuclear suicide vests, and the Sheridan Gorman murder case and its impact on immigration and border security policy.------👍 LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE!🎧 HANG OUT WITH HANNITY: https://bit.ly/4dMeEaBⓂ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: TEXT “PODCAST” TO 310-340-1132 TO GET THE LATEST UPDATES IN REAL-TIME!ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed to taste sweet with the truth. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed. Right here. You are a one of one?

My son's right. I don't think I've ever said this before. We're live. Oh, wow. All right, for everybody at home, don't panic. Don't freak out. Don't get mad. I'm only here for one day, two hours.

That's all I ask. It's not a lot. What an honor to be here, hanging out with three of my favorite people, and I'm not patronizing you guys. I watch podcasts, but this is my top podcast. This is my favorite.

When I was a guest, the only thing I didn't like is my friend over there, Thomas, did a better Clinton than I did. Oh, no. That was not cool. We might have a Clinton off today

at some point, John. We have to. That could get messy. It's Patrick Beth Davis podcast. What an honor to sit in his chair. What a great entrepreneur. By the way, the new digs. Yeah.

How awesome. Oh, they're not done yet. They got more to put up. What are you going to do with all the signed lockers? It's over there right now. People can come over if they come to visit the, you know, our clients will come in. We take them in there. We've set the set there.

They take pictures of it. It's really cool. We love the fan and the client response to it. But you're right. Like when they were placing it, Stadium or they get a new basketball court someplace and they cut the little pieces up, maybe we should like auction for

charity or something. It's kind of like Yankee Stadium when they closed it down, they were selling the all the old chairs. All the old chairs. We have to come clean. I've been selling pieces of the set. Because I'm not going to lie to you. No, I'm joking. But yeah. No, but it's a lot. It's an honor to have you here.

By the way, PBD and our team from Bed David Consulting they're down at the Trump Doral. Yeah, they were The SLS. The SLS. So we appreciate you filling in for our CEO today. First of all, what I love, in the intro that you have, the new intro to this new studio, which I think is spectacular, I really love it.

I love studios. I just started a podcast. And I got a lot to learn from all of you. And I have a lot of questions. I don't know what the hell an algorithm is. I don't know how to tap into the algorithm. So I'll hopefully learn a lot from you guys. But honestly, to sit here with all you guys, the fact that I get to,

spend a day with you is an honor for me. For those of you at home, you're only putting up with me two hours. Patrick, Bet David, we'll be back next week. Unless you crush it and he might just say that way. Hey, never know. You know, you're welcome to the show. Rob's the producer. He may called the shot there. Do I have to introduce Adam, Thomas and Vinny. I think everybody knows. They know. And Robert over there at the controls, he's going to put up all the information for everybody. I want, you know, Patrick said something in your last podcast, which caught my attention. Because one of the things that's important on a podcast, you've got to get people to subscribe. Those of you at home, by the way, good morning.

I'm not a morning person. I go to bed at 4 o'clock. But hit the subscribe button. And this is the best podcast out there. And I'm going to tell you why. And I'm not, you've got anything I'm patronizing because I'm here. I don't need to patronize. I'm just, I'm shooting straight.

You were one of the funniest guys I've ever met. Thank you so much. And I hope you crush it today. Thank you. And we set you up. I have no idea. That's coming up later in the podcast. I'm used to it.

I roll with the punches. Okay. CEO, C-O, 1.5 billion in assets that you have managed, and all these businesses that Thomas has been involved in, unbelievable. Adam is an entrepreneur that teaches people how to manage money and accumulate wealth. Yeah. All right. All of that, this is what I love about Patrick.

He put together a smart team, an ensemble cast. You guys have great chemistry. When I had the honor of just being a guest here, it was really an honor for me. And then I got to see how you all interact together. You were pushing me the hardest. Just so you know, you wanted to grab a controversial statement out of me so bad. Extract all your wisdom and- Adam did that?

Wait, what? I always play nice. Oh, man. But, all right, so it's an honor. Call to action. Please subscribe. This is a great show. If you're looking, there's a lot of stuff going on in the podcast world, right?

Okay, in the podcast world, you have people basically talking to each other, yelling at each other, coming up with conspiracy theories. No, this is a show for smart, educated people that want real information about the world around them, and you guys deliver that in, you know, every single show. So we're going to get to some of the topics here. One thing, I did start in the podcast space. I was just going to ask you. We're not.

I did not. I did. I said, don't want to hear about this. about promoting my show, but you guys have been very gracious. You said, so I started a new pod. Yeah. So I do three hours of radio a day, an hour of TV a day. Wow.

Okay? And then now I'm doing two days a week, and some days it goes on two hours, an hour and a half, three hours, whatever it takes. It's so fulfilling. You guys are all coming on. Do you know that? I can't wait. I love it.

I can't wait. It's going to be cool. And we call it hanging out with Hannity. I think we got a, Robert, we got a proper. You got a promo? Can we see this thing? Yeah, let's go. Let's listen. I'm not here to condemn you.

I don't mind. I can handle it. Believe me. I'm going to hurt me now. I'm going to make a pledge to you right now. You run for president? I'm running for president. Oh, boy.

I run. I run. I run. You run. You're talking about running against me? Absolutely. You lose. All right.

You're hanging out with Hannity. Look what I just got. Not only that, autograph. The Matthew Kachachuk. You've really embrace. being a Florida man. All I talk about. It's been great.

And so it's good to see years. No, no, no, no, no. I would always say. No, you harassed. You said you're never moving. You keep threatening. I've owned property down here for 25 years. You did.

No, no, you did. I prefer them in the hoodie. I'm not making a statement. It's comfortable. I can't find good clothes. You don't drink much of my margarita. Yeah, it's very good. No, you should not.

It's excellent. It's excellent. I'm trying to keep my wits about me. That's cool. That's cool. Oh, that's awesome, Sean. That's a great. That's a great studio.

That's going to take me to the next level. This is it. People are going to know who you are now. No, well, they... People have never heard of John Hayd. You can't go anywhere right now. What did Patrick call me when I was here? He goes, you're like an OG.

You've been around forever. I'm like, basically you're saying I'm an old guy. Original gangsters with the OG means, but... So the premise of this, I mean, I... It's kind of like how Bill Maher has his great show real time with Bill Maher. Then he has his club random. Was that sort of the inspiration or what was it? No.

You got the mainstream legacy media fulfillment. Then you have this. You said, this is more fulfilling? I'm going to experiment with a lot of different topics. Believe it or not, I started in radio in 1987. So the plan for this is I'll do monologues, I'll do it solo, I'll do panels, I'll have you guys on, and just really good people. I did one. It hasn't dropped yet with Sage Steel and Billy Bush.

two people that have had to deal with the media. Yep. That's unbelievable. All right, enough about me. I don't want to talk about me. I want to talk about issues. All right, the president, we have Operation Epic Fury. Now the president is giving Iran another 10 days, which I think is promising, sounds promising.

The president discussed this week how, well, they gave me a present, and he teased it, And the president was that he allowed these eight tankers to go through the strata hormones, which I thought was very interesting. Here's my question. And Thomas, if you don't mind, I'll start. Well, you know what? Before I do that, I was watching the other day, you gave a beautiful prayer at the start of the show. I was very impressed. Thank you.

And he didn't even let us know what was going to happen. It was just like, go. You know, because I'm going to stop here and just tell you, nothing in my life is possible without God. Amen. Fundamental for me. Amen. I'm in the same boat. So I'm not going to put you on the spot today. Oh, Adam? You're putting me on the spot with a prayer?

The Jewish guy with the prayer? This is awesome, Sean. Well, go ahead, Adam. Okay. But believe it or not, PBD talked to me probably two years ago, and he goes, listen, the one thing I want for you is to get closer to God. And I'm not the most holistic guy or philosophical guy, but being anchored to the man upstairs will never let you down. He'll give it to us.

Dear Lord, thank you for having us here. Thank you for having a great feeling guest for us today. Thank you for having my friend Vincent and Thomas here. Well, we have PBD being out of the office today. But thank you for looking over us. Thank you for looking over America. Thank you for looking over the free world. And in your name, we pray.

Amen. Amen. Well done. That's my first live prayer. Let's go! He heard you. Fantastic. I love it. How can anyone, and I know I'm getting off track, but I'm kind of stream of consciousness,

how can anyone look at the magnitude and the majesty of creation? We now, through science, know about universes within universes, within universes. Okay, the idea, to be an atheist to me, you have to believe something can come from nothing. Yeah, right. All right. Thomas, I'll let you expand on that.

So, you know, I don't think any fair-minded person could step back and just look at all the coincidence of creation and be an atheist. I don't think it's possible. You know, we see, you know, we see like Indian cave paintings and they were, you know, worshipping the sun and stuff. Where did that come from? Where did that come from? You had living people running around,

and why did they feel this need to worship something? Because I think when you look at names, you're just awed by it and you realize there's got to be something bigger than your than yourself and I don't mean thunder and lightning and all those natural things just looking around and seeing the place and seeing how it works and then asking yourself how did all these different animals show up well it was evolution well wait a minute if squirrels became monkeys became men why do we still have squirrels and monkeys who didn't who who said you know what I'm not evolving

this week you guys go on without me no you can't look at creation and have anything but just an intelligent design point of view. Even if you don't root it in any faith, you just look around and say, how did this all get here? And how are we on the spinning rock circling this big ball of fire and with order to it? There is a sense of order to it.

So I think when you look at the order and diversity of creation, I don't think any fair-minded person can say anything other than, well, I don't know what it is and I'm not ready to get with your religion, but you know what? Something's out there. But a lot of those people too, Sean, I think, a lot of them that are the atheists and stuff, it's very hard to once accept that

because then you have to be accountable for your actions. You actually have to have. There's a consequence to your actions. And a lot of these people, I read a book that Pat told me a case for Christ by Lee Strobel, atheist, wife, Christian. He's like, I'm going to prove you wrong, honey. Went out, talk theologians, everybody,

and he made an actual case for Christ and the order and God in the story. And I was just reading in Isaiah in the Bible. Old Testament. Sean, he's explaining Jesus Christ hundreds of years later that he was going to die for our sins and he was going to be, you know, crucified. It's not, this isn't mumbo-jumbo. It's accepting it and believing it and walking. It's, you know how hard it is, if you're partying and drinking and doing the girls and everything that I used to do, to stop all that, to stop all that and be like, I'm all in. Because there's no, Christianity isn't like a sideline sport where you're like, yeah, I'm going to dip my feet in, but I'm going to go out and drink and do cocaine

and you got to go all in. And I think a lot of those people, Sean, it's hard to be like, I have all this money and all this, all the girls. And I don't want to give it up for what. And have somebody judge me. They don't like that. I'll just say this. You know, if you don't have a belief in a higher power,

something else is going to fill that space. So I went through sort of the, a time in my life where I wasn't sure. I was questioning everything. And I think I was like, agnostic. I'm going to be agnostic. I don't know. If you don't know.

And what happens is you start to, question God and look at what's going on in America. There's a lack of faith, lack of community, lack of family, lack of values. Something's going to fill the space, whether it's wokeism, whether it's transgenzerism, whether it's, you know, any, any ism that just takes the place of a higher power. So everything is binary to me. You know, like I say, I give the option, oh, you might criticize Trump. You want Kamala? So if you stop believing in the man upstairs, something's going to fill the space. And believe me, it's not going to be as virtuous. As God.

So something Thomas said, as profound and deep, the magnitude of it all, I don't think we as human beings are designed to fully grasp it. And then it creates the mystery. And then if you, like I believe in Judeo-Christian principles that founded this country. And, you know, there's certain things in the Bible that just make you wonder, ponder, give you hope. The eye has not seen. ear has not heard, nor is it entered into the hearts of man, what God has in store for those

that love the truth. That crazy. You know, Jesus on the cross saying, this day you will be with me in paradise, right? I mean, deep, the very hairs of your head, even the white ones on my head. Great head of hair. Are counted. Great head of hair. I mean, it's pretty deep, profound.

And then you hear all the stories of the life after life. Have you read all those books? I haven't. Have you read any of those? Yep. You know, and it's amazing. You take a bunch of people that have never met each other that all talk about this experience, right?

Hearing loved ones and a, you know, some sort of white tunnel. And you take all these people who don't know each other, over here, over here, over here, over here. And they're all coming back with the same relative story. Why is that? Why is that? And I think it's because they're given glimpses, as far as God wants to allow you to get a glimpse, right? Because it's also a faith-based. And, you know, if he gives you the answer to the whole thing, do you need faith anymore?

It's because it's two cool books, 90 minutes in heaven. I read that book. Heaven is real. That was also turned into a movie. I like that too. Which actually can dovetail into our first topic. And that is the whole premise of Operation, well, first Midnight Hammer, you know, that the Iranians are evil, that they chant death to America. They chant death to Israel. They have been the number one state sponsor of terror. They are, to me, an existential threat. I don't even have the patience to deal with stupid people that don't understand evil in our time. And I think, I see President Trump is learning three historical lessons, and I'd love for all three of you to weigh in on this. One, he learned from Reagan peace through strength. Two, he learned the last hundred years of human history,

which proved that there was evil, and that's Mao and China, Stalin and Russia, that's Hitler in Germany, that's Mussolini and Fascism, that's Tojo, Japan. That would include Pol Pot and in the killing fields, right? And over a hundred million souls, Thomas, dead. They're gone. And the third lesson I think he learned is no quagmires. We can't send our national treasure on the ground for extended periods of time, you know, in these conflicts. And with military, with the next generation of weaponry, it's now possible. But the premise here is, Thomas, I'll ask you this, this regime is evil. I'm never going to convince those that don't believe that,

but I believe they are, and President Trump was smart enough to take this threat away from our children and grandchildren. Thoughts. Yeah, it was somewhere between, you know, I didn't vote for new wars. You don't have to vote for new wars. Nobody voted for, you know, disease either, right? And things happen in life. This was necessary.

I think everybody has been called to account. All the people that want to deny, all the things you just said, which are all very, very correct. When they launch a rocket that is now capable of going 4,000 miles, you just ask yourself, okay, what are they put on top of that rocket? And who, who exactly are they going to put it on? And once they have that, you know, now you're going to have to constantly manage them. This is what happened when nobody took North Korea seriously. In Japan's sitting there, you know, they launched another rocket. It's a little bit closer now.

And they were dropping them in the ocean without warheads, showing that, hey, we're getting better and better and longer and more precise. And all of a sudden, oh, damn, they've enriched uranium too. So now not only do they have, you know, nuclear capability in North Korea, now they have built a rocket. and they built and built and built with the technology to get there. So you sit there and say, okay, North Korea can be managed. He could be managed. Even a Kim Jong-il, Kim Jong-sun, those guys were at least manageable. You know what I mean, Sean?

You get to this regime, it's not manageable. North Korea doesn't say, you know, hey, death to America, and I'm willing to die for it, and we're all going to die for it, and we're going to set up suicide squads and all that. No, North Carolina is insane. But they're not insane on like, you know, an embroiled faith that every, that the, end result is death, death, death, death, death. It's like you can't negotiate with it.

And you look at it. So you can't let it be capable. And people say, no, no new wars, you shouldn't have done this. I don't want new wars. I don't want $200 billion that needs to go for other things to go for this. I'm as American as anybody else. I don't want that. I said, but when you look at what's going on there, now you see the rocket and say,

okay, all right, all you people demonstrating in London, do you see that if you draw a line from Diego Garcia, oh, that same line would breach London? How do you sleep? And when they tell you, now they want to do this and now they want to do that, wait, what do you do? When they tell you they don't like that you're persecuting rape gangs in the UK or we're going to bomb you. What do you say then? What do you say when the bully is fully armed with? the ability to deliver the bomb and the bomb. And I think Trump has learned all this. I take a lot of heat.

They say, oh, there's no new wars and you're just a simple form. No, no, no, I'm not. You know, my president is not perfect. But I think that this one we got right. Do we wish it it was easy and as quick as Maduro? Sure we do. Sure we do.

But it doesn't mean that somebody's got to stand up for this and somebody's got to pull it back. Let me ask you. Let me follow up. Because I think that a lot of people don't get the Trump doctrine. Yes, it's no forever wars, but that doesn't mean that we're not going to use the might and power of the U.S. military. Let's go back. He wiped out ISIS. He took out Soleimani, Baghdadi, dropped the mother of all bombs on Afghanistan, and Midnight Hammer. 14 bunker buster bombs knocked out their ability to enrich uranium.

So that is not, it's not a forever war, but it is strategically smart for our long-term security. I agree with that. And I realized multiple things can exist at the same time. The regime, evil, 1,000%. We spoke about this before the podcast started. If somebody had a gun to your head and the people, Sean, you're going to represent the Iranian people. If somebody has a gun to your head and they're going to kill you, Do you care who kills the gunmen?

Do you care if they're Jewish, Christian, America, tall, short, transgender? I don't care. I want you to help me kill the person that has a gun to my head. The Iranian people need this, okay? That exists. Does America and Israel and all these different people that are involved, they have their own agendas? Absolutely, absolutely. I think the one thing, Sean, which people are going to be weary of, is, number one,

the trust in the government has been at an all time low. When they see wars like when I was in, after 9-11, we went to Iraq, when they were lied to about weapons of mass destruction. They lied every day, weapons of mass destruction. Then we showed up and there was no weapons of mass destruction. That's one of the reasons I left the military. We're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

You guys lied about they had these weapons of mass destruction? A million people are dead. Thousands of American soldiers are dead. The lie. So I can see the skepticism of people and the weariness of, wait a minute. We've heard this before. We've seen it before. But on the twist side of this, Sean, I have to go everywhere. I trust President Trump. Me personally, I have clip after clip of 80s. He loves America. He always talked crap about China. He's always been about America. And I fall victim to this, Sean. All we do, like we talked about, who's saying this and who's saying that? Like, we're in those meetings. Like, we're in the situation room. I'm not. I don't know. I'm not in the transport. looking, they are. I trust him. He loves this country. And at the end of the Sean, we have to wait. We're how many weeks into it? I think they say that we have a couple weeks left. Let them,

just like with the tariffs. Let's see what they have to do. I can't jump the gun and be like, oh, this or that. Give him some time. I said this a couple of months ago. Let him cook with the tariffs. He did a fantastic job until the Supreme Court freaking cut his legs out from underneath them. Give them time, but we have to understand that a lot of trust when it comes to military and government, you have to understand a little bit of the weariness of the American people. I don't want to overcomplicate this. So to me, it comes down to this one thing. How long do you negotiate with terrorists? We've been negotiating with this terror regime for 47 years, and Trump, love them or dislike them, had the balls to be like, no, we're done with these people.

Because at what point, does negotiation just become normal? Yeah, we're just negotiating again for the last five decades. And then what happens when you're negotiating and their behavior doesn't change? So you need to have some accountability for your bad behavior. So this endless negotiation, oh, we did this, we did this, we did the Iran deal,

the JCPA are not going to do this, but their behavior hasn't changed. They're still funding proxies. They're still basically shouting death to America. And Trump, he's not playing that game. So two more points. Trump's the art of the deal. You know, I reread the art of the deal.

Some of the biggest lessons you were eight was create leverage and negotiate through strength. Trump created leverage, took out, you know, 80% of their military capabilities. He's negotiating through strength. He took out how many of their top leaders? So what I think is you brought up peace through strength. I think, and I'm going to own this, I think we need to rephrase peace through strength. I think we need to start calling it stability through strength. because the world's never going to have world peace

and we're running around fighting wars thinking that we're going to have peace what we're solving for is stability so what stability? Stability needs to be enforced right and if you don't have consequences to your bad actions then what happens? So to me Trump is running around the world doing what

ending hostile regimes to America creating stability do we have stability with Venezuela now I think so Are we potentially looking at stability with Cuba? I think that's next. Are we trying to have stability with Russian Ukraine? Remains to be seen.

Trump is doing his stability through strength mantra in Iran. So you want to replace Reagan? No one's going to replace Reagan ever. But it's just sort of updated. I want to ask you a question, though. I have a question, right? Go, please go ahead. What's your point?

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That's what we're doing. Different hosts. Thank you. Same line. We'll see your Monday. Perfect timing. But let me ask you a question. And Sean, you guys, I want to ask all of you guys.

When Midnight Hammer was the first mission, we, like, just put yourself in the American public's eye. We went in, we stopped their nuclear capabilities. We, okay, that was it. It was clean in and out, done. You have to at least see the, like, the regular average Joe American has going to work going, wait, wait, wait. You guys said we knocked that out during the summer. now what changed? Now they have in retreating somewhere else.

Because at the end of the day, Sean, this is where I know people are upset. This was sold as we're doing it for the Iranian people. And I'm really putting myself there because I know people from Iran. My mom who's sitting there, Sean, that you met, she's from Iran. All the people that would have been massacred in the streets that were fighting, that Trump said, guys, go and fight and do it. And I love them for them. And God rest, all their souls, arrestor they hanged last week for freaking protesting.

doing what he was doing, and God bless him for doing it. Like, you have to understand, Adam, the people are like, well, okay, we haven't heard from the people, because they have no internet. Now we're saying, oh, they have uranium and all that stuff. You have to understand that the people are like, I thought we took all that out in the summer. Because if it's for the people, I haven't heard, because Sean, are we going to put in a leader that we're going to pick that's going to run them? Do you think their military is going to go, oh, you guys, oh, America's putting this guy in?

Yeah, we're going to follow him. You understand how difficult? I think that, I don't think anybody's thinking about that part. So let me take it to the next level. So the president extended out negotiations for 10 more days. For me, the best interview that was the most revealing in terms of what imminent threat or defining imminent threat, I had the Mideaston boy, Steve Whitkoff. He was in the room.

He negotiated with the Iranians. I think we have a clip of it. I want to play it. And this is where he affirmed they had 460 kilograms of 60% enriched uranium, which means that you could very quickly enrich it from 60 to 90%, which is weapons grade. You can do that in anywhere from 7 or 12 days. Now, that would be the equivalent of 11 bombs. Thomas mentioned earlier. We now know their ballistic missile capability range is way further than we thought.

By the way, you know what that means? Paris, London, you know, targets that nobody thought they would have had. But let me play this. And then I want to ask on the other side of it, as you listen to this, if the president negotiates a deal or if he has to leave, what are the things that must be accomplished before we say mission accomplished? Okay. All right, this is Steve Wickoff.

...up with telling us that they had the inalienable right to enrich, to which we responded that from President Trump that we had the inalienable right to stop them from enriching. So, but they opened up by challenging us. Their next statement to us was

that they had 460 kilograms of 60 percent enriched uranium. 60 percent enriched uranium would take a week, maybe 10 days at the outside, to bring up to 90 percent weapons grade. So it was a

clear threat. They were boasting about having it. And they said that that was going to be something that was going to be very valuable. At the same time that they were attesting to wanting nuclear for civil purposes, there is no reason whatsoever to be enriching past 20% unless you're going for a weapon. And then finally, and this was all in the beginning meeting, in the beginning meeting, they said to us, and this was some challenge, you're not going to get from us diplomatically what you could not achieve militarily. Now, yes, we had destroyed their three main enrichment

and conversion centers, Natanz, Esfahan, and Fordo. That was clear. They, of course, didn't want to admit it. But think about the notion of beginning a negotiation by saying that we would not be able to get diplomatically what we couldn't achieve militarily. We did achieve militarily, but they were basically saying that we didn't,

and they weren't going to give it to us anyway. All right, Thomas, let me throw that to you, with this question framed this way. Now, either they're going to negotiate out, maybe they learned something. The president begged them for peace twice, before Midnight Hammer, before Epic Fury. He's now giving them another lifeline.

What are the conditions? What do they have to guarantee? No nukes. That enriched uranium, there's no way we can risk that uranium being in the wrong hands. Now, we're reading that Marines have arrived and more are going. I don't know how to interpret that. I don't know if that has to do with Carg Island. I don't know if that has to do with enriched uranium.

I wouldn't know. But what are the conditions in your head that either a negotiated cell, or a military victory? What would it take? I think it's going to take a negotiated settlement at the end of a barrel of a gun, because I think that's all they understand. And so I think the military destroying the things that are destroyed and then saying, okay, so now are we going to do this? And if you look at the, you know, the multi-point plan, really like the first six, seven points was all about, you know, no nuclear, right?

You give back this stuff. You don't enrich this. You don't do this. You don't do this. And someone needs to maybe educate me. Maybe I missed a beat on why they would need enriched uranium for industrial purposes. I don't think they run on nuclear power over there. I'm pretty sure they have more enough fossil fuel to run all their power plants and desalination and do everything they need to do.

But the first section was all about nuclear. The second section was about funding all the Hs, the Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah, funding them. Then the third section went back to stability. So if you really look at it, it was a 15-point plan, but there was really only three asks. Nukes, no funding these other folks, and then, you know, recognition and create some sort of an inspection and peacekeeping force and whatnot. And that's it. And what they're saying is you're not going to get through negotiation, which you can. couldn't get militarily. You're basically telling us, okay, kill me. You know, okay, run me over,

which is horrifying. It's like, really? You know, and the Marines in the area, the USS Tripoli sailed. We called this two weeks ago, remember that? I said, listen, the only reason the U.S. Tripoli is going there, if you know anything about military structure and what the purpose of that ship is, 2,500 Marines, F-35s, aircraft carriers stay way over here and are protected by submarines and very very strong partnerships. Well, guess what? If you're going to go in, you need the USS Tripoli or need the USS Boxer. And the USS Boxer sailed on the 18th, I believe, out of San Diego with another thousand Marines

and the 11th Marine Expeditionary Force. And the Tripoli sailed over there with the 35th Marine Expeditionary Force with 2,500 Marines on there. And so whether they take Carg Island or they take... And I don't know, I can't pronounce it. You can help me. The queue. No, no, no. The island that is in the straight, in the hook, as they call it,

there's a long lateral island begins with a queue. And they say, if you take that, it eliminates a lot of these small rockets and the pestering attacks that they fire into the street to stop the ships. If you look at a map there, I don't know what the name is. Anyway, the point is, you need the USS Tripoli, the USS Boxer. There it is. What's that? begin with a Q, Q, Keshem?

Yeah. Keshim. That's... We're going to meet you on this. Yeah. Zoom back on it. See that there? Yeah. So you take that island, and this is what, you know, the military is saying, that Keshem.

Take Keshem Island, and you're going to have to do that Marines on the ground. I don't want to see Marines on a ground. But... Well, you don't want to see it, but they're going. They're going. They're on their way. But Sean, let me ask you guys a question. When you're dealing with the regime, and I'm genuinely being inquisitive right now, you're dealing with

the regime that kills its own people, that beats women, throws gays off the building. They're freaking funding proxies and terrorists. I thought we don't negotiate technically with terrorists, but here's my question. They finally, we're negotiating with them and they say, okay, we're not going to enrich and we're going to stop. Are we still going to leave in the Ayatollahs and these Mullahs and everything? Like, what are we doing? Because it has to be, their government has to change.

The regime collapse. The regime collapsed. And that's again, Sean, I'm going to keep going back to it. I hope that they have, without telling us, whatever, they have to keep it secret, a shadow government, so to speak, being formed in Iran. Because, like I said, John, how can you, do you think there are, let's say, what, 800,000 soldiers, Iranian soldiers, once we do a regime change, they're going to just willingly be like, okay, whoever the United States and Israel put in,

we're going to, I don't, I don't see that happening. So when I, you got to take, like, do we have to take all of them out? That's a crazy operation because it's, again, What about arming the people? I had that conversation with one of my friends, but he goes, Vinnie, you start giving those, just everybody weapons? He's like, then other factions are going to start rising up, and people, he said it'd be a very, very, very... But this is what makes, I think, Operation Epic Fury so historical. I mean, I would argue from an intelligence standpoint, military standpoint, this operation to this point, we don't know the final outcome yet, and it's going to get complicated.

and I agree with what Thomas was saying. But so far, it's the greatest military operation in the history of warfare as of today. Now, how it concludes, I want to go back to what Thomas was saying and get your thoughts and Adam, your thoughts, because to me, one way or the other, certain conditions have to be met

or we don't ever want to go back, right? So what does that mean? They cannot have nukes. We didn't expect that their ballistic missiles would be able to have the range that they have. As always, international inspectors suck, and they got it wrong. Okay. But they can't keep 60% enriched uranium that they can turn into weapons grade in seven or 12 days.

That has to be part of the deal. The straits has to be open. That's part of the deal. I hate to tell you one other thing. I've known Donald Trump for 30 some odd years. There's no way in hell he's leaving there unless they're agreeing to pay us back for all the money we had to spend to liberate that country. from being in a nuclear threat. Oh, you really think he's going to be that guy?

100%. Oh, wow. Remember, he got the oil from Venezuela. We took Maduro. We helped them set up whatever is set up there in terms of government. And then the first so many barrels of oil, when they fully opened the pipelines, because remember, if you look at a map of Venezuela, the oil's like in a central valley. And these pipelines have to get it to the ports.

And the pipelines were running at lower capacity. Why? Well, guess what? There was embargoes. and they were having to ship contraband oil. So when we got there, we said, okay, not only are the pipelines back open, and you guys, heavy crude is what comes out of the ground there, and heavy crude refineries is what's needed.

Oh, and guess what? That's what's built in Houston and Galveston. So tell you what, the first $500 million, whatever it is of oil, we're going to take, and we're going to take that back for all the crap that you've done, and to pay for this. So we got Maduro, the oil is going to flow, your people are going to get the money, but we're also going to get paid for this. I look at that deal in Venezuela, and I'm like, this is brilliant.

Also, I can't say who and I can't say what. But Pat and I were in Washington. We were at the Department of War, and we sat with an analyst. This wasn't Heggs-Suss, but we sat with an analyst that said that our risk report was estimated that we would lose 10. The risk report was that it would be 10 servicemen lost in the assault to take Maduro. It was zero, and we had that one crew. critically injured pilot.

God bless him, who stood there at the State of Union address and was recognized for his bravery standing there, you know, with Keynes holding himself up because he hasn't fully recovered, and we lost zero. And we've lost 13 here. So I like what I'm seeing. I don't like loss of life. And there are 13 families that are mourning the loss of servicemen that serve bravely and honorably.

But I look at Venezuela, and I believe Sean's right. There's going to be a deal back there that also comes back to pay for this stuff. I'm asking you to look into a crystal ball. Will they negotiate that deal or will they resist again? They had time. They had an opportunity for peace before Midnight Hammer. They had an opportunity for peace before Epic Fury. They chose to pass.

Now, we're now at the fourth or fifth tier layer of leadership. We don't even know who the hell is in charge. Although they did give Trump the big president, which is they let those eight tankers through, which I think was a sign that we do have power. So will they agree to give up the 60% enriched uranium? Adam, I want to get your thoughts on that. Look, we were asking the nuclear question, right?

So I'm going to try to weave. It's called the weave. So I'm in a serious relationship these days. You know, shout out to my girl. Okay, let's change topics. There we go. And you know what happens when you're in a relationship? I saw your lovely significant other.

You start watching a lot of movies TV. You stop going out. Romantic comedies. You're doing the comedies. Rom-coms. It gets bad when you have to watch the real housewives. I don't do it. I won't do it or refuse to do it. Unless it's the real households. Okay, you're giving advice on this topic. Yes, here we go. This is really happening. So the, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, the, a movie that we recently watched, because

we like comedies, we like Sasha Baroncone. We like Borat. We like this. It's great. Was the dictator. Have you seen this movie, the dictator? I haven't seen it. No. Oh my God. Sasha Barron cone plays a middle- and dictator who's enriching nuclear weapons. And his famous line, he goes, we are having nuclear capabilities for peaceful purposes. For peaceful purposes. He can't get it out because it's such a joke.

You're not enriching nuclear capabilities to 60%, which is almost weaponry for peaceful purposes. Let me add one thing. That interview with Wyckoff, and this is where I think, For me, it was the defining moment. When I did that interview, I knew it was game over. The decision had been made.

But he also added, the U.S. offered Iran low-riched uranium for civilian purposes for free in perpetuity. Said that in that interview. A peaceful purpose. And what they said. They said no. And then, Rob, do you have that chart that I sent you last week? And it's a very rudimentary chart of basically how nuclear weapons work. None of us knew this, I guess.

But three to five percent out of 100 percent is for energy or for peaceful purposes. 20 percent research. In the history of the world, nobody's gone to 60 percent without getting to a weapon. So, like, now we're just going to trust a theocratic, thug-like jihadi regime to be like, peaceful purposes. Listen, as much as I like watching movies, the world isn't a Disney movie. Like, things are going to get real ugly unless you have someone step up and say, no, no, no. you know, speaking, I spoke with another, two buddies of mine, Navy SEALs.

One is a U.S. Navy SEAL, shout out to my boy, Kaj. And his partner, his friend and a business partner, is a Israeli Navy SEAL. And they start talking about terrorism and deterrence of terrorists. And the Israeli guy with the thick accents. He's like, you have to have the terrorists, the terrorists, the tolerance for the terrorists. And then it got so convoluted. You're saying the same word. It's like the terrorists, the turrets, the turrets of the terrorists.

And he goes, that's what it comes down to. They only understand strength. Unless you're not hit them hard, they're not going to stop. So Israel's on the front lines of Western civilization. That's what it comes down to. We are so lucky to be in America debating. What should we do? What should we do with Iran?

I don't know, but I'm going to go to dinner tonight. I have friends in Israel that are living in bunkers and have to hide in bunkers. imagine just for a second forget if you're pro-Israel not imagine you're in new york you're in l a you're in miami in chicago every two hours of your life you have to run into a bunker a bomb shelter because iran the rrc is trying to bomb civilians one thing i know that israel is great at is taking out terrorists pinpointing u.s taking out irgc they're just trying to take out everybody they can getting ready for a game means being ready for anything

Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why I remember, 988, Canada's suicide crisis helpline. It's good to know, just in case. Anyone can call or text for free confidential support from a train responder any time. 988 suicide crisis helpline is funded by the government in Canada. In a blaze of glory. Okay, let me ask you this specific question, because this infuriates me.

We've been witnessing the rise of anti-Semitism worldwide. We see it in the halls of Congress. We see it on college campuses. We see it in the podcast space. And it's loud, and it gets louder. Here's my question for anybody that is angry. For example, all these people that were protesting, you know, Gaza and what happens to the people in Gaza?

Excuse me, they're the ones that voted in Hamas in the first place. But here's my point. Israel has a population of under 10 million people. What do we have? 365 million Americans around that of our population. So extrapolate out their population versus ours. Compare it to October 7th. That's the equivalent of over 40,000 dead Americans in a day.

For all those people that said, oh, Israel shouldn't fight back, what would you want America to do if America had the equivalent of 40,000 dead Americans? My answer? Obliterate the living daylights out of them. them and Israel goes to do it and then anti-Semitism rises. Explain that. Well, anti-Semitism is not a new thing. Jews, I'm Jewish. We've been dealing with it. Not like this. This is bad. Of course. So the great Thomas Sol had the quote, you know, what's your cure for anti-Semitism? He had this interview and he goes, yeah, it's pretty simple. Lose, fail. You know, because here's the reality.

losers hate winners in any capacity. Why do people all around the world hate America? Because we're winners, maybe. Why do the Middle Eastern countries, not the Gulf states, you see UAE defending, you see Bahrain defending Israel and America. Why do the

terrorists around them is because they're losers? They've been praying to, in my opinion, a false profit, no offense, and they've been saying, when are you going to bring me the success that I want in life? When are you going to bring me? everything that I've been praying for.

Look at Israel. They've been around for how long? 75 years. Why do they have all this money? Ah, there must be, they must be. They run the rule. Of course what's going to. So losers.

Doesn't that piss you off what he just said? Because people do believe that. It terribly pisses me off. I mean, you have people out there that say, oh, you know, Israel's lobbying and manipulating and APAC has, you know, lobbyists assigned to every senator. Well, so does pharmaceuticals. industry and I think they're probably funded better than APEC. I look at it and I see this and

I'm stunned and I'm pissed off when I see the students, you know, just walking across campus and being harassed and these, you know, protests that were going on against them that were, you know, you talk about the liberalism on college campus, oh, we don't want racism, we don't want racism and then you you basically you act as racist yourself against these students are walking out there and it infuriates me and when you had the um the three schools that were in the um the hearing Harvard Columbia MIT I believe MIT and they're all there what are you doing about it they wouldn't say it they wouldn't say it they wouldn't see anti-Semitism they wouldn't answer the question and I think two of the three presidents lost their job and one of them was like

reassigned or something she went back to run the law school. And I look at that and I'm like, are we out of our mind? Are we literally out of mind? Regardless of what you feel about Israel, whether they are or aren't, you know, lobbying and just set that aside for a second and look at the people around the world and look what's going on. Ask yourself a question, where's this coming from and why is this here? And these Jewish students can't walk across campus without being harassed or physically accosted or worse. Really? And the schools just let it happen, that's the issue for me. Why do they sit back and just let that happen? And I don't get it. You said something that I think dovetails right into what you're suggesting.

What culture teaches their children to strap on bombs and that if you go kill innocent men, women, and children, that Allah is going to reward you with 72 virgins? I'm sorry. I'm not putting a bomb on my kids and saying, go kill innocent men, women, and children. But what a sales pitch? I want to respond to what you were talking about earlier. What a pitch to sell to someone if you kill you, kill everybody else,

virgins in heaven. I can't wrap my mind about somebody going, oh, okay, I'm all in. But when we're talking about the racism, Sean, I genuinely and truly believe in my heart of hearts. Racism in any form, any form against Jews, Blacks, Assyrian, Middle Eastern, white, anybody. It comes from ignorance and not having Jesus Christ in your life.

Plain and simple. God taught us the two main things, love me with all your mind, heart, soul, and spirit, and love your neighbor. Stop right there. Everybody's life in this entire world would be so much better if people live by those two principles. On the same side, I'll flip the coin. When it comes to the anti-Semitism and the rise of it,

I think a big part of it comes from, Sean, is my opinion, When Israel, obviously, in time you mentioned, Israel has influence. Okay, check, they got it. Bibi Nanyahu comes to the White House seven times more than any president ever in less than a year. Check, yes, I understand that. Let's put that to the side. If you're not able to criticize the government, which, by the way, Sean, we're sitting here criticizing the government. I do it all the time.

I left the military because of our actions post-9-11. I think it's when you can't criticize the government of Israel, that's when people get pissed off, and then they just lump all that hate on into, it's the Jews, okay? I think people should be allowed to be like, hey, you know what? Israel did that, and Israel should come clean. And be like, yeah, we did it.

Like you mentioned Israel earlier, Gaza, 70,000 people dead, 20,000 children, women and children. You should at least be like, okay, it was bad, but it's just, nope, Hamas is everywhere. If you look at a photo right now of Gaza, it is flat. There is nothing. There is nothing. Because we were told Hamas was underneath there.

Okay, and I understand that. I think there's that people, there's that line, Sean, where people go, you know, okay, Israel's doing this. And then it bleeds into it's all Jews and hate all Jews. I am anti-any student trying to go to a class and you get harassed or punch by somebody because you're Jewish, you belong in prison. Period. I've been in those terror tunnels. I've been in a, I was in, I've been Israel a number of times. I've known Bibi for 30 years too.

And there's a border town called Storot. And it's, you can see Gaza with the naked eye. And when you go to that town, I went to the local police station and they had recovered over 10,000 rockets fired into one town in a 10-year period of time. Kids can't play outside. They can't get vitamin D. I like to play outside. I like to get some sun, right?

We all like some sun. It's good for your kids. No, they play in underground bunker playgrounds. It's not just tunnels. It was all the money that was given to the people in Gaza, the Palestinians, for schools and hospitals and infrastructure, was spent to build out terror to kill the Jews. Look, let's get real here.

Nobody wants war. Nobody wakes up, has their breakfast, their cereal, their coffee, and that's like, let's go kill people today. Well, actually, there's something to do. Exactly. I'm saying in our minds. In that world, that's rewarded. That's where you find paradise.

And I don't want to spend a lot of time on Gaza. What happened in Gaza is obviously ugly and messy and it sucks. But I'm also old enough to remember when they were calling a genocide on the second day when 100 people, 100 terrorists were killed. They've been calling genocide since October 9th. So, you know, you want to talk about criticism. 100 people that genocide. The Iran regime just murdered 30 to 50,000 of their people. Be quiet. Don't let anybody know.

Let's keep that under wraps. But God forbid it happens in Gaza. Obviously, no Jews, no dues. But I want to address one thing when you said that criticizing Israel. You know who criticizes Israel the most? Israelis. Because it's a democracy. And we have sort of a rudimentary thought of.

You can't criticize Israel. You can't criticize Israel. American should take a book out of Israeli's book. because half of Israelis hate BB, just like half of Americans hate Trump. So we have to understand in America, anti-Semitism is real. I don't even like the word anti-Semitism.

Jew hate. People, it's ingrained. There's 50 Arab Muslim countries in the world. There's one Jewish state. Why does the Jews get the state? Why do you get 50 states? There's how many Christian countries? So I'm not, I think the bottom line for me is this, what I've learned as a Jewish person

who's 80% of my friends or Christian, or, you know, not Jewish, I think Israel, in my humble opinion, is done trying to be liked and trying to be the country in the nice PG-13 movie. Hey, guys, let's be friends. That's all, let's all begin. No, they want respect. And if they're going to, you're going to learn the one way or another,

you're going to respect the winner. And look what they're doing now. They're winning everything. Don't you see that it's Christians. They're the biggest supporters. of Israel. Yeah, of course. Okay. The best people I meet are Christians.

A lot of evangelical Christians are 100%. Like, by the way, like Lindsey Graham, Lindsay Graham is, is he, hold on, is Lindsay Graham? So is Vinny and so is Sean Hannity and shows Thomas. Yeah. I mean, yeah, but what I'm saying is like evangelical Christians are 100% all in for Israel.

To my opinion, there's two reasons for this. There's the biblical prophecy. I get that. I'm not even going there. I'm just looking at the reality on the ground. One country is basically saying, we love America. We're your friend. We're your ally. We're here for you. Maybe we negotiate a little bit stronger than you would like us to, because if you've ever been to the Middle East, it's a negotiation. The other side is shouting death to America. They're burning the flag.

They're fighting wars against you. You take your pick. Are you scared that Zionism is taken over America or radical Islam taken over America? If you trust one poll from Turning Point, they said, what's the number one threat to America? Radical Islam. You know, Rabbi Mordecai isn't coming in to your house to gun you down or blow up a bomb. Last point, you see what J.D. Vance just said? J.D. Vance just said that he fears not a suicide bomb, a nuclear suicide bomb. Do we have that clip? Yep. Here it is.

Thank you. When I say options, I think it's important the American people know, options for what? And it's options to ensure that Iran never has a nuclear weapon. You talk about people who walk into a crowd of the people. supermarket and have a vest on and they blow up the vest and a couple of people get killed and that's a terrible tragedy. What happens when what's on the vest is not something that can kill a couple of people but can kill many, many tens of thousands of people. That is the most important American national security objective that exists for any administration at any time

is you don't want the worst people in the world to have a nuclear weapon. That's why the president is doing this. That's why the president cares so much about this particular issue. And Americans aren't stupid. I'll give you three different options you let me. Some of them, Adam. Some are. Some are useful. You are pretty dangerous. You hear in a crowded room. My neighbor. You hear 80. I'm sorry. You hear someone. Which neighbor are you talking about?

Don't talk about Tom like that. You're in a crowded room. You're in a crowded park. You hear someone yell, Jesus is king. What do you do? You're running towards them and I'm going to hug you. Hey, how you doing? You hear someone yell, Baruch Hashem. Bless the Lord. I'm going to give him a napkin. Hey, how you sneezed? You hear someone yell, Allah al-A-L Akbar. I'm running. You're hitting the deck, buddy. That's the difference.

And I'm not saying that all Muslims are terrorists at all. But there is a little bit of a coincidence that most terrorists are Islamists. I didn't think we'd spend as much time on the topic. And you probably want to move on. But I want to bring up one other point if it's acceptable for you guys. It's your show, Sean Hannity Show. No, this is PBD. It's PBD.

He's back. I'll never be here again. I promise you. No, no, don't say that. No, no, don't say that. Well, first of all, I mean, thank you. I'm really enjoying this. You guys are so wickedly smart.

It's fun to talk to you all. And these are important discussions for the country. They really are. And we got to get these things right. You talked about, you know, we lost 13 guys. We had 300 injured. I don't want any American hurt. I want zero, but that's small compared to what's going on.

Even Brett Stevens in the New York Times, who hates my guts and hates, you know, oh, my, hates Trump. I mean, he has. I had a really good column this week. I don't know if you read it. New York Times? New York Times. You think I'm reading the New York.

Failing Times? I don't. But the point of it. I do like Brett Stevens. I think he's pretty. So I went with the president on the Gulf Trail. We went to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. I wouldn't move there.

Went to Qatar or Qatar to prefer how you pronounce it. Wouldn't move there either. You wouldn't buy a house there because you're American? Oh, I'm American. Hey, hey, that's a low blow, Tom. That's my job. It took me a second. Yep.

I have no interest. We're not going there. Honestly, but it's very different. But it was also interesting. I learned a lot when I was there, met the people, no issues. Here, there's something happening that the people in the Mideast, they were as happy as the Israelis because what happened in Trump's first term never got discussed a lot, which was he had, built a coalition of nations, U.S., Israel, Saudis, Egyptians, Jordanians.

We all came to, they were all intelligence sharing. It didn't get a lot of press. So taking it to the next level and being on Air Force One and being with the president, I'm not dropping names. I was invited to be a guest. I went, I covered it. It was great. It was a wonderful life opportunity.

I'm never going back to any one of those countries. Not now. Not now, probably. But here's my point. Those relationships are solidifying. Now, if I had to write the perfect ending to Epic Fury, it's going to be that the Abraham Accords, on steroids, the Saudis recognize Israel, all of those Gulf nations

and mid-eastern countries all come to peace in the region, and we have a piece we haven't seen in a thousand years. simultaneously, I'm looking at Great Britain. I'm looking at France. I'm looking at Spain. I'm looking at NATO. And what do I see? They've had unfettered immigration without assimilation for decades.

And that resulted in, what, there's 85, 87 Sharia courts in Great Britain. That has resulted in no-go zones in France and other European countries. That has resulted, they've adopted climate alarmism. they've adopted socialism, they have neglected building up their national security, they have failed spectacularly. NATO's nothing without us. You know, we pay more than all of those countries combined, and what we realized and learned here is I think we have more support

from Gulf nations, Middle Eastern countries, than we ever had, and so little support from the people that was supposed to be there that we thought would be there, that we were relying on being there. And that, you know, I used the term earlier with Thomas, that infuriates me. Because as far as I'm concerned, if they didn't come and they wouldn't, they get more oil from the straight of Hormuz than we do. They couldn't send some Navy blockade support. Wow. With friends like these, right?

All right. So how does that play out? I would not be surprised if Donald Trump told them to go pound sand, meaning NATO. Yeah, so what do you think is going to happen with that? You were in Air Force One. What was the conversation like? No, what I saw was all of these Gulf nations. When Donald Trump left there, I think there was something between $6 and $8 trillion in manufacturing monies committed to this country.

Because they like Trump. They did not want a nuclear armed Iran. They did not want Iranian hegemony in the region. Of course. So, Thomas, I see your brain is swore. rolling over there. No, you're so correct. And my favorite NATO moment this year was actually at Davos. And it was the guy from Finland. And he says, oh, no, no, I'm a stub, right? Yeah, it says, I misspoke. We actually need the Americans in NATO because he had said moments before, a few

minutes before, and this conversation came back around him. It was, oh, you know, I don't know if you need Americans, or I don't know if you need Americans. And then you look at the position. of Finland up north there, very close to Russia, like next door. And then he comes just minutes later and said, no, no, I didn't say that. We need America. So you see it there. And when we just asked them to pay their fair share, if they didn't want any support, they didn't want any, you know, security out of it, they would say, well, okay, if you're not going to pay for it, I guess I won't do it. No, that's not what they said. They said, we're going to figure out how to pay for it. And you had the rise in Germany of, what's the party, AFD, the rise of AFD party, where conservatives are saying, wait a minute, immigration for skilled labor of people that want to work here under controlled immigration is okay.

All of this people that have come in here, this is lunacy, leaving NATO or not paying your fair share and being vulnerable, that's lunacy. So you're starting to see inside these countries things come up. And that's encouraging to me. Finland was encouraging me to Davos, even though he embarrassed himself, and AFD party's been encouraging to me. What's not encouraging to me, was it France that turned on and off airspace last week, couldn't fly in the airspace? Well, Starmer is like Neville Chamberlain to me.

McCrone is weak and pathetic to me. Spain was absolutely despicable to us in this process. Now, they came in late, but too little too late. They didn't come in when it mattered. and how do we have an alliance with people that are not reliable? I agree with that. I mean, and what I'm encouraged by is, look, they won't look at history. They won't look at what happened in Greece.

Was it 17, 18 years ago, the austerity? Hey, you don't get to retire at age 62. You have to retire at age 67. And by the way, you don't get this much retirement benefits. You get this much retirement benefits. and the riots and protests broke out. People flipped out, but that was showing that socialism didn't work, and Greece had reached the end of the budget.

I'm hoping that this next generation that we are seeing coming up in these countries is coming up with some common sense. But I don't count on it, but I see AFD in things, and my hope remains high. Meanwhile, today we need their leaders to drive, and what I fear is happening, but I'm glad at some of the outcome is they do this first, and I think behind the scenes,

Trump and Whitkoff and Rubio are getting it done because they come back around on it a little bit. Not enthusiastically, and I can't depend on them on day one, but I feel like we're negotiating them that at least come around sensibly. But I wish it was like a fire extinguisher that you grab it off the wall and it works. What do we do?

They've neglected defense. you have no-go zones in parts of Europe. You have Sharia quartz in Great Britain. Their culture has shifted dramatically. They've neglected defense. Socialism for decades, climate alarmism for decades. I don't know. I think they're on a spiral.

I think there's a simple explanation for this, and it's that age-old parable that, you know, hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. times and good times create weak men. We're living in the weak men of Europe phase. And, you know, tale of two cities, Europe being incredibly weak right now. But on the flip side, look how strong some of these Gulf states are.

Yeah. Right. So I was reading this. Someone said, who do you think wrote this? Who do you think said this? I said, all right, whatever. He goes, we further condemn the destabiling acts and activities of the Iranian regime, planned by these sleeper cells loyal to Iran and terrorist organizations like

Hezbollah. we praise our brave armed forces confronting these attacks. We will stay vigilant. We will preserve safety in the nations of our region and apprehend the agent terror cells exposing these malicious plots. Who do you think wrote that? You would assume Israel, obviously, no. There was a joint statement by the UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia.

So the Middle East gets it. Because here's the final point. And this was a, I learned us from the raging Cajun, James Carville. He goes, what do you know? you lack about the Clinton years, the peace of the prosperity. So now that guy's completely lost his mind. That's a whole other topic. By the way, how great has the clips of James Carver?

He's been insane. Come on. He's been absolutely insane. But he's right about one thing. Most countries want those two things, peace and prosperity. Most people want, you know, wealth and happiness, peace and prosperity. That's not what Iran wants. Iran wants, you know,

they're, to meet Allah and that's just who they are. And how do you talk someone out of that? Well, Sean, because the strength that's coming from the Gulf states is admirable and the weakness that's coming from the EU is indefensible. How this plays out, I think it's going to be interesting. Yeah, Sean, I want to play a clip. There's a, like, when people tell you who they are, believe them the first,

the Maya Angelou said the quote, I don't know it exactly. This is an Islamic iman, and he's explaining how they want to take over. Yeah, Sean, I definitely want you to put, you have to hear this. I got to hear this. How they're going to take over America? Rob, you could play that like 1.25. This is just, listen, we have to hold everybody accountable with anything. It's going to take me a minute.

No, it's all good. Don't walk up, Sean. Yeah, that's it. Sean doesn't want to see the Muslim guy taking their, they're going to take over America. They're going to hot in the wheel. This guy is saying that there's going to be a big change coming to America, and I just want you to know what the plan is. And, Rob, can you please play this clip?

One day you're going to be the president of the United States of America. No one, go to my God, Ali, who can stop you from becoming a president. Dream big. Have a vision. Because if Barack. Barack Hussein Obama can be a president. Soheb Jowat cannot be a president? Muslim guy?

He's going to be a president. He's talking about that the Muslims will take over Makkah. They used to laugh at it. What happened? What is Makkah now? It's coming. Change is coming to America. And what is Allah telling us,

Kuntum Khaira'ah ummatin. You are the best of nations. You're better than everybody else. That's what I was saying. Let's work towards that. Let's work towards a Muslim mayor. Next election that comes in, nominate people for the School Board of Education.

Next election that comes here, nominate people. people for the local township. We gave the demographic change. People converted. There's a big, huge conversion going on in this time. Where are the converts? They just convert and they're gone in the wilderness.

The other thing, children. Muslims have the highest population. Average, Pew Foundation did a research study, Pew Foundation. And they said that Muslim household average is 3.4 child per family. The white American has one child per family. We're already beating the march. Because these are voters. These are voters.

These are not just babies being born in hospital. These are voters. That's the way a politician looks at it. We have to change the framework. Start looking at things from a different lens, different angle for future. You're not going to change society today in your lifetime, but you think about your grand...

So think about what he's saying. Mayor, Muslim, happening in New York, kicking out all the people that are making money and shit and they're going to start importing his own people. And then think about it. The pressure, the kids. They're laying it out in front of your face and Pat made a really, really good point.

It's not going to happen overnight, Sean. It's not going to be my kids. It's not going to be Adams kids. but their kids, kids, it's going to be happening. Like you said, what's happening in Europe? Sean, they're done over there. Europe is cooked. I hate to tell you, I came to the same conclusion.

I think they're done. They're done. And by the way, they don't want to say anything negative about the Muslim community. Think about the Pakistani rape gangs, Sean. They were raping all these young girls. They basically ruled that they don't even want to give them airtime. They don't want to pursue it because they're going to think

like racism is going to come on the ride. Islamophobia is going to come on the rise in UK. Wait, what? What? So you mean to tell me all these girls, all these victims that were raped by all these men, they're not going to pursue it because Muslims are going to get a bad look in the UK. Think about that mentality if, God forbid, your daughter was one of these victims, and the government saying, no, we're not going to go out. We believe in this country was founded on the idea of the notion, freedom of religion.

I'm all for it, do it, do whatever you want. Here's the problem. I look at Memdani. I look at what his wife has said. I look at the things he said. I look at the people that he's hired and the people that they've said. Yep.

And wow, you can hardly say anything about it. And so many people just overlooked it. Yep. That's a little frightening. 100%. To me, I'm sorry. Yeah, go ahead. Look, this is going to be something

that we're going to be dealing with for a while. And it sounds like we're being so completely anti-Muslim. No, we're not. No, I'm not being racist. I'm telling you exactly what the guy just said on camera. Don't attack me. Some of my closest friends are Arabs. Go ahead, tell them.

What's your point? What's your point? Some of my closest friends are Arab. Robert loves that. Saudi's, okay? Qataris. I get along with these guys. Here's what I would say.

Bring your culture here. I love it. I have some halal. I have some food. One of my favorite nighttime spots in Miami is a Middle Eastern Arab place. I love it. You smoke the hook? I love the culture.

By the way, when I go to Israel, 20% of the citizens in Israel are Muslim. They're Arabs. You can coexist. Here's the catch, though. You can bring your culture. You can bring religion. You cannot bring your politics to United States.

And I'll tell you why. Because you can't even bring your politics to the Middle East. What countries in the Middle East can you vote? Zero. It's either a theocracy or a horticocracy. But there is some modernization. A little bit. You can't vote.

when there's a king. But here's my point. You can't go to one of those places and be a Christian mayor or whatever that hell that they have. Imagine this guy saying, dream big. Good for you. You should. You live in America. Anyone can become whatever they want.

No Christian goes to Qatar and goes, dream big. One day you're going to be the emperor of Qatar. It's not happening. No. So bring your culture. Be our friends. Be here.

Assimulate. Political Sharia law is not happening in America. It might happen in Europe. Wait. It's not happening. But we got going. To hope, Adam, but listen, and, Sean, this is my opinion. As a Christian nation, there shouldn't be a Muslim mayor.

They shouldn't be a Muslim president. I'm sorry. You notice, hold on. He said it. I didn't say it. When he said, we've already had Barack Hussein Obama. He's basically saying proudly that they've already had a Muslim president. Is that what he meant?

Why would he say Barack Hussein Obama was- But in fairness, I spent a lot of time investigating Obama. Okay. He did go to the church of Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Yeah. The Sunday after 9-11, no, no, no. Not God Bless America. G.D. America.

It's in the Bible. G.D. America. Really? The Sunday after 9-11. So you said that? Jeremy Wright? In Chicago? Who's the pastor of Barack Obama.

Come on. And he said after 9-11? The Sunday after 9-11. 2,97 dead Americans, many more since 9-11-related illness. He said, no, no, no. Not God bless America. G.D.

America. It's in the Bible. You don't remember? Can you pull that, Robert, could you find that and pull that up? But this is a Christian church? Christian church. So I, back in the, so I did an whole investigation in the Obama and radical associations. Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dorn, Weather Underground,

Alinsky, community organizing, Frank Marshall Davis. Thomas is not in his head, obviously. If you can find the G.D. America. I remember you covering this literally on Foxx. Everyone in 2007. 2007, 2008.

American sermon to justify 9-11. I saw, I don't know where it is in the clip. But, like, I mean, are you surprised? And again, I'm not judging him. I don't care in the sense that he could practice whatever he wants, but I've never met a Barack Hussein Obama. That's a Christian. Come on.

Give me a break. Great job, Robert. God does not lie. Where governments change, God does not change. And I'm through now. But let me leave you with one more thing. governments fail I don't think this is

2001 that's 2003 but he said it and this was the church that Obama would go to because obviously Obama you know run for president

2008 however you're saying these are comments you made if if W had these associations what do you think the news media would have said about it

if W had these associations my gosh white supremacy and instead they they they cover it because the globalist and the reordering of America was at the top of the agenda for the liberals that were running liberal media and the liberals that were part of it.

And so they went with it. Well, Solensky is okay because, you know, overthrow the man. This guy's okay. And you look at the, basically, you can tell Obama's position by his college curriculum. And you just go, look at these professors that were his, mentors. And then you ask yourself a question, are you surprised that Woody took action on, what he took inaction on? Are you surprised? Yep, I'm not. I have a question. Did we find that clip? I have a question for Hannity. So you've been in the media since 87. 400 years? 400 years old,

still got great hair. I've seen one thing that I don't recognize, you know, in my 40 plus years on life. I don't remember candidates, especially specifically on the left, running as straight up socialists. Straight up. I'm running as a socialist. Get behind me. It used to be a thing, hey, don't tell anybody. I'm actually a communist socialist.

Let's keep it on the download. Now they're running on that platform. Was that going on 50 years ago, 40 years ago? You go through cycles. It's kind of like they got to learn their lesson. You go through Walter Mondale. Then you go to Bill Clinton, who took a more middle-of-the-road approach. And then after Hillary Carefeld, he followed Dick Morris's advice, and he triangulated.

And remember he said famously, the era of big government is over, the end of welfare, as we know, and all of those things. But we got to understand one other thing, and maybe this is a good way to kind of dovetail on to another topic. Legacy media is corrupt. You want to know why PBD is so successful, and all these podcasts are successful, and talk radio, in spite of people proclaiming it's dead, not even close. I'm on 760 stations every day and Sirius XM, and I'm on Fox, and Fox is crushing it. I'm honored to be there. I love being there, and now I'm doing this podcast. Why are people turning off legacy media?

because I'll give you three examples. I brought them with me. This is the economist. This is their cover. Advantage Iran. At this point in time. Okay. Then you've got foreign policy saying

why U.S. victory in Iran would be bad for Washington and bad for the world. Then you have Politico. Thought Iraq was a blunder. Iran is far worse. Why do they root against our country? Whether you agreed that with

Operation Midnight Hammer, this epic fury or not. When American treasures in arms way, for crying out loud, can you just hope, even if you disagree that it works? It's almost as if, like, cheering against America has gotten cool. And I really do think, Sean, Donald Trump came in and ruined their, he ruined their brain. Something happened. It's beyond TDS where it was like, you know what? To hell with him, and I'm going to turn it, and burning the flag is cool. And talking crap about our soldiers is cool.

And the hell with the system and trying to burn down the system. It made it trending to hate the greatest country in the history of the world. I'm talking about, John, Rome and all that, and this greatness in Assyria, the empire, 700 years. Nothing beats this country. Talk as much as you want. Talk about all the influences. talk about everything. Name me a better place.

Go ahead. Go ahead. You can pick up this phone right now. I could order food, plane tickets, this, do a homework paper, everything, and this is the greatest place. And it all started here. And it's all in this country.

It's cool. It's like, hey, like F America. Yeah, man. And they get together in these groups and they think it's cool. They think going on these campuses and bashing this country, yes. You could criticize, which I said earlier.

Criticize, yes. And this is the thing to when it comes to politics, Sean, they think everything has to be perfect. They expect this guy, they expect the president to be absolutely perfect. Perfect. One mistake. And it's turned on him. What was the first one you said?

Advantage Iran. What are you talking about? Advantage what? They're hanging on by a threat. They're corrupt. You brought up the media. Yeah. I think you're the perfect person to have this question.

I'm not them. I hope. No, you're not. But to me it comes down to a couple different things. Why does the mainstream media essentially root against America? Here's my philosophy. Number one, a lot of these people are detached. They're in their ivory towers, whether in the New York, whether they're in Boston,

whether in L.A., San Francisco. And they're not flyover country. They don't have family or friends that are serving in the military. They don't know, so they can just sort of like pontificate from their soapbox. That's number one. Number two, undeniably, patriotism is almost at an all-time. low right now. Rob, I don't know if you have that hold our shared values

are at all time low, whether it's family, whether it's community, patriotism all time low. I go around with an American flag everywhere I go. Vinnie says to me a day, he goes, wow. Like, you just got out to shower with the American flag. I don't mess around, bro. I wear it every night. Exactly. And then here's the kicker. We all know

this. Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing. It's a real thing. People hate Trump. much. If Trump goes, hey, I got you, I want you guys to save money. People would go, oh, you want me to save that money? Here's my wallet. I'm going to burn it on fire. Don't tell me what to do. Think you're cancer. Wait, would you guys remember when he was telling,

like, they came out and said, RFK said, if you're pregnant, don't take Tylenol. They're like, oh, yeah. All they're pregnant. Tiling off for dinner, buddy. Yeah, oh, my God. At the end of the day, we have it so good here in America. We do. We have it so good. You said you traveled to the other side of the world. You have no interest in going back there. I've traveled, you've traveled, traveled. People go, where are you doing this summer? I go, I'm staying in Miami.

No place else I want to go. I've been around the world. There's nothing like America or Miami. But we have it so good here. Miami's getting too cluttered. Just saying. It is. Because Adam's invited people here.

Come on down. No, don't come down. But we have it so good here. When you have it so good, you look for things to complain about. Yeah. I remember I had a conversation with this, this would be a real quick story, with this Indian kid on my neck.

And he goes, what is depression? I was like, why? He goes, I hear that American kids, they all have anxiety and depression. I don't know what depression is. I said, what do you mean? You never been depressed?

He goes, no, I don't know what this word means. What does it mean? I'm like, you know, when you're like so sad and upset about you don't have anything going on in his life, he's like, yeah, that is India. You have to figure it out. He's like, why are they so depressed in America? I love you, Camage.

And it was incredible. It made me realize we have it so good here that we have the luxury of being depressed. You know, Tom, we were talking earlier. Your dad fought in World War II. His dad did. My dad's father. Your dad's father, okay.

My dad fought in World War II. Four years in the Pacific. I died 30 years ago, my father. And that was the greatest generation. Yeah. And I think you're raising a lot of good points here. because I think of my grandparents all came from Ireland. I took one of those ancestry tests.

Oh, really? Yeah, I'm like the only person that came back 100%. Oh, really? You're Irish. 100% Irish. All four of my grandparents came from Ireland. Hannity. And they told me that.

How's Shawna Hannity? Shano Hannity. Ah, I like that guy. I'm like some Irish Spring after this. Try the Irish Spring five and one. It's actually really good. I use it. You're going to start showering now, Vincent.

Yes, Melody. We should have that as a sponsor. You know, we have product placement here. I got Starbucks, I got Celsius. Where are all the advertising? So 100% Irish. So 100%. But I think they came here, and this is the quintessential American story. It's not the Sean Hannity story. And they had nothing. Broke, poor. They faced their discrimination. Irish Catholic need not apply at the time. Every group that's come here, I'm not, you can't compare anybody to what happen to African-Americans, separate and apart.

But they did it because they wanted a better life, courageous people. They were thinking about future generations, and they were willing to sacrifice their life. And then my parents stood on their shoulders. And I stand on my parents' shoulders. I refuse to, you teach people how to get wealthier. Adam, this guy's run CEO, Fortune 500 companies. Next level, right there. Next level, okay.

And I'm just telling you, all those things. we owe it to our kids to teach them what freedom is. The blessings of liberty and freedom and the high cost of liberty and freedom. That's why you're right, Tom, you said it earlier. I don't want these kids to die. However, you have to weigh that against, well, do we want to leave this country to our kids and grandkids with a nuclear armed Iran? the number one state sponsor of terror

and then risk a Holocaust potentially down the line. Did we learn, if we could take Hitler out before the Holocaust, did you take them out? I'm killing baby Hitler. I'm straight up doing it. Straight up doing it. Yeah. Well, isn't that what we're doing here? Yeah, that's what it is. And I hate Hitler analogies. Yeah, I'm not saying. I'm going to come out and say it. I'm going to stay.

So do I, because I feel like it's a form of name calling that somehow moderates history. because if you're going to call somebody a liar, okay, they lied, you proved it, they are a liar in that instance. But when people use Hitler's name as a name call, it's like, wait a minute, the comparison is you can't compare it.

How dare you use that to create, you know, just all you want to do is create the boogeyman effect and the angst across the aisle and push the votes the other way through just the slaughter of reputations. And I agree with you on that because I feel that Hitler has his own tragic, horrible place, and I don't want it watered down or used in any way. I want to have almost a sense of just horror that sticks to it,

that you can't talk about it unless you look into the eyes of it and see the pure evil that it was, and it disgust you so deeply at that moment that you say to yourself, There is no comparison so that it's almost like, it says, you know, it's almost like a word, a word that you can never use. And it just disgust me. Well, Thomas, let me ask you, though, because you're raising a great point. I argued the same way you just did, but not as articulately. But here's my point. The regime in Iran, if they're that evil, and we really believe if they had nuclear weapons, we are risking for our children and grandchildren, a potential nuclear Holocaust. Is it not like Neville Chamberlain and Churchill? Can we take that basic lesson from history?

Absolutely. You know, oh, the appeasement strategy? Hey, but that's, it didn't work. Who sent pallets of appeasement? I'm sorry, dollars over there. I wish I thought of that when I was fighting Gavin Newsom this week. Who sent the pallets of appeasement over there? This was Barack Obama with the Neville Chamberlain playbook.

let's assume. And what they assume is that because they're for sale, that guy's for sale. And they apply the same standard to say, well, look, you know, we've been bribing the poor for their vote by giving them welfare programs. Let's just bribe these guys. Because they apply that same standard

of human manipulation that works for their voting blocks over there. But they're dealing with bloodthirsty genocidal dictators. And that's what I call them. to say blood, and this is where somewhere and culture is smiling, because I said it that way, they are bloodthirsty. There's a bloodlust for the complete termination

and destruction of the other side. That is not a person that you can just bribe with pallets full of cash because they're going to take the cash and they'll say, boy, that guy was dumb. Look at all this money we have to keep doing what we're doing. Just keep it down, keep it down. Don't be too loud about it. To what Sean said.

By the way, thank you for taking it. a hard stance on Hitler because when I go on X, he's the coolest guy in the world, so thank you for that. But you brought up that you're 100% Irish. You know, my grandfather, he fought in World War II. You know, you said you're a grandfather as well. I remember a time

where, you know, I'm a student of history. We've seen the movies. We've seen what happened. Whether it's the Irish, whether it's the Italians, whether it's the Jews, whether it's the Polish, whether it's the Asians, whether it's Indians, they come, and you know what they give you? Nothing. Nothing. Welcome to

you get the golden ticket, here you go. And now, a couple generations later, these newcomers come on in. Here's a hotel. Here's a debit card. Here's some free health care. You know what? Rip off the system.

Why, if you don't want, start a little Medicare fraud. Start a little leering center in Minneapolis, Somalians. And then this is what happens. And they become entitled. And then here's the biggest hypocrisy of all. They're here. They get this welfare. and then they started hating America.

To me, it's like, what is going on here right now? Then, of course, then Americans, I think, now we could switch topics a little bit, because you brought immigration. Most preventable national security disaster in our history, and I actually wrote down somewhere here, I don't remember, because this is so outrageous to me when you look at what has happened and all.

I said after the joint session speech when President Trump got elected the second time, and they wouldn't stand for Lake and Riley's family, they wouldn't stand for Jocelyn, Nungary's family. That young man, Daniel, he'd beaten cancer. Sean Kern gives him the secrets. The little, in the police officer uniform? Incredible kids. It was such a cool moment. Democrats sat on their backsides.

They wouldn't stand up for them. Then when the president said at this state of the union, stand with us. if you agree, the first role, I'm working you up. No, no, no. This is, there we go. Of course, continue, please, please. Okay, and we have all of these recent examples. I've got, I can go through one after another.

The guy that was thrown onto a subway train, you have this 18-year-old Loyola student is murdered. This person allowed him by Biden, Harris, Mayorkas, and then a month later, after they came in, illegally, didn't respect our laws, board of sovereignty, committed a crime, let the guy out again. Now this girl's 18 and dead. You want to be that family? You want to be that family? You want to be that family? Hell no. Nobody wants that. And it's example after

example. Now, I see. Then you've got this idiot, older woman who made this ridiculous statement, well, she was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Then you have Brandon Johnson's stupid I think we have, I think Robert has that, and we can play it, but... Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson. Oh, Mayor of Brandon Johnson. His actions, because he brought, he literally brings an abolish, she was just killed, she was just murdered, God rest her soul, and he wheels in an abolish ice truck behind it. I know.

Like, what? I thought it was, I thought that was AI. I thought, Bob, can you play this video? To all of the residents who participated in our snowplow naming contest. Look at this. Keep speaking up. in every way and any way that you can. I look forward to meeting with the Chicago ones

who submitted the winning names, and I look forward to seeing our city's pride, our spirit, and even, yes, our humor, represent us again next year. And so with that, you brought me a plug. And then he goes, somebody has the, at least the know-how to say, Mayor, oh, this is it, yeah,

let's guys, listen to the audio that somebody's asking, Sean. Like, you think the scheduling could have, changed because she was killed? Listen to his response. Did you reconsider rescheduling this event given the murder of Sheridan Gorman by an undocumented immigrant? Well, look, as I've said before, my condolences to the family of Sheridan, this is a terrible tragedy. And what I've said from the very beginning, I'm going to continue to use every single tool that's available to me to protect the residents of the city of Chicago.

Jeez. And this tragedy is not going to deter us from our work. In fact, it's going to challenge us all to double down on our efforts to ensure that we are protecting every single individual across neighborhoods. Sean, like, do you guys understand what he's saying? What he's saying is, hey, listen,

I know an illegal just murdered an 18-year-old American citizen But guess what, Chicago? I'm going to still represent the illegals to come into this freaking state and into this country and continue to kill 18-year-old girls. Do you understand how insane that is? And for anybody out there that keeps voting for Democrats, I'm sorry, guys. You've lost the freaking plot. It's over.

Robert, can you pull up Maria Hayden, the older woman? So I had on my radio show, the mother. Cheryl Minter is her name. 41-year-old daughter, Stephanie Minter, murdered by another Biden, Harris, Mayorkas, illegal.

And here's where it gets worse. You know, you have kids, your kids do something wrong, not a big deal. Okay, it's when they lie to you. Then I really get mad. They're going to get punished more for lying than they're going to get for whatever they did.

They lied to us. Two big lies, they told us. Joe was cognitively functioning. That was complete. Adam Schiff. And you like that, right? Very clever. And the other big lie was the borders closed and the border is secure. Over 12 million unvetted Harris-Biden, Mayorkas illegals from over 200 countries. Many were terrorized. We have Americans that have been murdered and murdered and raped and sexual victims of sexual crime, other violent crime, children molested. I'll give you

a statistic and then I'll shut up and get your comments. ICE, in 2025 alone, they arrested over 2,100 convicted or charged illegals of murdering Americans. They arrested over 5,400 charged or convicted. I love that. Maybe mine. John, actually, it doesn't get cool than guy. Guys, I'm sorry. My chopper's landing.

Please continue. Okay. Gangsters, Sean. I love that. It just fell into my lap. I wish I didn't say it. No, I mean, it's really true. I don't know if the people can hear it. There's a loud helicopter. Well, the only way I'm going to be able to get back and do my radio program on time. I still have three hours of radio to do. Listen, I get it, Sean. The helicopter, you're on Air Force.

I'm good, baby. I want the finish. Life's good, Sean. I want to hear this. Please continue. 5,400 people, illegals charged or are convicted of raping, or other violent sexual crimes against Americans. That's 2025 alone.

It is intolerable. Now, I take it one step further. Those mayors and those governors, sanctuary cities, sanctuary states, Biden himself, Harris, Mayorkas, they all have blood on their hands. I blame them. 100%. They are responsible. And this gets into, you were talking about elections earlier. And I'm like, you're right.

You know what drives elections? Peace and prosperity. All right. With a little luck, we're going to get out of Iran and we're going to do it successfully. I pray to God, and maybe we'll have a thousand years apiece. Cuba's going to fall. The Western hemisphere is changing.

Maybe we can thread the needle and maybe Putin will get rid of his stubbornness and come to peace with Zelensky and Ukraine and we can all get along. And then the next most important thing, Donald, Trump has done. He set us up for a good economy. I know it's a little rough now because of gas prices, but this war, I think, will be over within four to five weeks. Done, completely finished with all the goals that we discussed earlier. Then we're going to focus on, and I want to get your thoughts on this, the most important midterm election in our lifetime. I really believe that. The consequences could not be any more significant or severe. Don't they say that about every election, though?

I have said it about many, but I've never felt as strongly about it as I do now. I'm on the same page. I'm on the very same page. And Sean, just to get to your point, besides, I agree that the midterms is going to be insanely important. 2008 is going to come like that. And if you're seeing from the mayors and the attitude of all these potential front runners like Gavin Newsom, they care about illegals more than they care about us. Why?

Because that influx that they led in Majorcas, that's their voting base. Because, Sean, is that why they don't want to say that? Sean, exactly because Sean, when you don't have a policy, when you don't have a message, when you don't have a leader, a leader, that's what you have to resort to. Like people just go, oh, Majorcas and them, they wanted them, they love them. Sean, this is a tactic from the Democratic Party. Let's just really, really fast. Let's break down their just election tactics because they don't have anybody.

From 2016, Trump wins. What do they do? Hillary, Obama, spying, Brennan, Russia collusion. They can't play fair. Then George Floyd's riots, they burn down the whole country with George Soros paying for it. They try to impede Trump with Zelensky with the phone call, which is absolutely nonsense, and he got acquitted. Then you go to COVID, which I believe, Sean. Vincent O'Shaunel believes that China, on purpose, with some of our deep state actors, with Fauci,

and we're finding out Fauci and all of his nonsense is coming out in Congress, which I love. Then think about it. That COVID, Sean, 2020 election, shut down, mail-in ballots, late-night ballot drops. Cheathing evidence keeps coming out with Georgia, Tom. We keep seeing it. January 6th, Fed's direction. Feds all over the place, Sean. They made it seem like all these people died. The only person that was murdered was Ashley Babbitt, a U.S. Air Force veteran.

God rest her soul. They impeach him again. Then for four years they opened the border. Sean, they flood the country the whole time going after Trump, keeping him off the ballots, shooting him in the head. Sean, they have nothing. This is how they operate. When you don't have a person, that's why Sean, I'm being respectful because you know Stephen A.

Smith, and I absolutely love Stephen A. He's going to be on my podcast on Monday, hot cakes and hot takes. I want there to be a Democratic leader. Sean, I truly want somebody on the other side that I could feel comfortable because the pendulum's going to swing saying, Sean, you know what? I trust Stephen A. Smith. I'm not going to, I would even consider voting for that guy. If it's that type of, because I'm not a Democrat Republican,

I'm just a guy that wants the best for the country. Give us somebody. All you have is Gavin Newsome. That's their frontrunner, Sean. Gavin Newsom's all they have, and he's pro-illegal. and I guarantee you, Sean, if he wins, God forbid, he opens the border on day one. I'll put money where my mouth is. Gavin Newsom goes, this country is for, this country is for everybody.

Trump is a Nazi, Hitler, whatever, open the border. Watch, mark my words. First thing you do. That's what else was he going to do? What else is he running on? He's a sanctuary city guy. That's freaking California. That's the fear.

The midterms bleeds into 2028. I have studied Gavin Newsom. I know him. I fight with him a lot. I live rent-free in his head because he's constantly tweeting out against me, which I kind of like, which is pretty cool. Here's, you know, I'm so tempted to just stay,

Thomas and I are on the same page. I want to stay focus on 26. However, it's just too tempting because we all like politics so much to want to think about 28. Yeah. All right, I have to find out where your heads are at. I have the answer.

I already have the answer. What is it? It's already written. It's already done. What? You said that midterms are going to be the most consequential. Most consequential in our life. I don't know.

We're about to find out, but this is going to be the first election in 2028 where Trump's not on the ballot. Correct. Okay. I think the foreign wars are going to be kind of messy, but done by then. There's no way Trump's going to leave the world. It's going to be done before this election. You know, they say it's the economy, stupid. You know, what's the number one, the biggest voting bloc in America outside of white people?

People? Latinos. Oh, I thought you was not. Latino. I know where you're going. I firmly believe, and I'm coming out way in front on this, that the President of the United States, when all is said and done in 2028, is going to be Marco Rubio, and I'll tell you why. Much like J.D. Vance 10 years ago, Rubio ran for president. He wasn't ready. He ran into a buzzsaw named Trump.

Trump had the cachet. He had the marketing, it had the ability. No one was stopping Trump. this time around America, as much as we appreciate Trump, a lot of people are going to be like, can we just have someone chill and not ruffling the feathers so much? And I get it. We need a bull in a China shop right now.

I think what's going to happen. Let's say it's Gavin Newsom or let's say it's whatever, you know, wokester they put out there. You're going to have someone get up on stage, be competent, well-spoken, with a pedigree and a resume like no other, and you're going to see Marco Rubio and then Latinos

shout out to Mijente in Miami because I'll be down there with them they're going to galvanize around this guy Cuba there's a good potential Cuba will be free by then it's going to be free in three months there's going to be memes think about this and I have no disrespect to JD

it's just not your turn okay just not your turn the meme about J.D. Vance where he's like a big grown fat cabbage badge kid you've seen that he's dancing I don't know what that is it's funny I've seen too many memes about me So I'm not

This is the meme about JD But the meme that will not go away About Rubio is he's the president of Venezuela He's the Ayatollah of Iran He's the president of every single country That's not going away So when you have Rubio There you go

There he's the next day Ayatollah I mean Rob you could have had something better for me But this picture of Rubio Dressed as the president as the Ayatola As everything in the world is going to basically go viral. Look at this picture right here. All right. I don't know where he's the president.

Okay. Some leader. But Rubio is going to be the guy. Mark my word. That's a bold prediction. There it is. I can see that possibility for sure. What's my point?

Sean Hannity. He agrees. Okay. Thomas. So I'm worried about the midterms. And everything is pointing right now. All the polling that you see from the good polls, Rasmussmus and guys are really good. Mark over there.

honest pollster, as they say, Atlas Intel, you start to look at the American Insights, which is kind of a new one coming up, and it doesn't look good, for one reason, the economy. The war will get sorted out, and then I think good news is coming on Cuba, a country where, you know, my parents lived for 10 days and understood. You mean they visited? No, no, no, no. My parents understood the Cuban missile crisis. They understood what was going on.

And so they lived through that. And now to see Cuba, the people become free and things that can happen there. And it's going to take some elections and some development and things like that. But that's coming good. Okay. All of that, I believe, is going to be here before summer is. But the big but is, will the economy turn in enough time and see enough good news there that the people will see it and recognize it? because right now Trump has most of his Republican base.

It's the independence that went with him during the election that right now are in the middle, and they're back to the anything but this. Why? They don't like the war. They don't like gas at the pump. Thank goodness this isn't happening in the deep winter because heating oil is a huge expense to the people that live in the Northeast. So thank goodness we're out of that with the price of oil up,

And people are looking at it right now, and the independents are in this, anything but this mode, which is kind of scary because it's showing up in the polling. What do you see? That is the greatest analysis of this moment in time that I've heard. Everything you said is dead on accurate. Now, I'm going to give what has to happen. And we have to add one other thing, I think, and that is historical trends don't work against the party in power for midterm. I think all bets will be off. I have to make certain assumptions.

I think this war is going to be over four or five weeks. If that's true, if it ends successfully, then that is a huge win for the president. Cuba Falls, big win for the president, Venezuela, big win for the president, maybe it passed a peace in the Middle East. That's not the issue that's going to win the election, though. The issue that will win the election is the economy.

There's three big things that I think are working in President Trump's favor, you're rightly looking at the clock. Do we have enough time? Okay, very important question. Now, what did the president set up? He set a great foundation for a great economy. Largest tax cuts in history. Let's go back historically. His first term, his tax cuts led to record low unemployment for every demographic in the country, African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, women in the workplace, African American youth unemployment. New record historic low for African Americans. All right, Reagan, 70 to 28 percent, largest tax cut in history at the time.

Okay, longest period of peacetime economic growth in history, 21 million new jobs created. And so that is set. And Democrats voted against it. Part two. Constantly. I was with, I mentioned earlier, I went with the president on the trip to the Gulf States. Your first one? what's your point

Adam come on by the way he told me he gave me a thousand dollars every time I said it so oh we're up to four grand so he doesn't have four grand in the bank of Adam I'm actually feeling bad he made me do it Sean Hannity there's nothing you can do to make me feel bad

have you seen the comments in the chat no how bad is it I'm impervious to this how many people are hating that Patrick's not here today nobody it's not we do miss PED but we're really Oh, we love PBD. I'm here for one day. Just get over it.

I'm leaving. That helicopter might come back. You come back again. You never know. Listen, if you don't have me. Anyway, you're on Air Force One. No, all right. So all the money that he has been able to secure for investment, manufacturing investment.

For example, pharmaceuticals, rare earth is going to happen here. Semiconductor chips. We're going to bring back automobile manufacturing. One other component. for the economy. This is what gives me hope for the six-month period, the window that we really have to turn the ship. It's energy. Right now, you wouldn't make that prediction, right? However, if I'm right, if he can get out of this situation and we can get focused and dialed into that and all those foundational pieces now kick in, which by the way, Scott Bessent was saying,

what happened, I think got a little delayed because of this conflict. I expect that, I expect I expect, put it this way. When Reagan won re-election and he won 49 states, the last quarter leading into his election, GDP was 7.3%. We get to five. Trump will win. We will win the House and the Senate overwhelmingly.

If we don't, if it's 4%, I think we have a good shot. And I'm very optimistic. We'll get there. But your analysis, if that doesn't happen, historical trends will hold. Yeah, exactly. And I see the president, the most important weapon as he has is his pen.

And right now, electricity for the common person on affordability could be shifted very, very quickly, simply, if you're building a data center that's going to hyper-impact the local power grid, and now you've got, what is that, Ecott in Texas and the power companies and the groups, have to raise the rates in response to demand,

I want a subsidy that counteracts at on the construction side. You know, when you, what's really interesting in this country, when you go and you look and you see what Toll Brothers and Pulte homes and Lanier, what they have to do when they build, you know, neighborhoods, they pitch in to help sewer and water lines get built. Why? Because they're going to take all this land and build homes on it, and they need sewer and water lines to get there in electricity

so that they could do that. Who builds the road? Who owns the road? The city does. Who puts the fire department? The fire hydrants there. The city does. Because what?

The home builders have to help. I think the data, what's happening right now with data centers, creating instant demand, which craters the local demand coefficient for electricity. And then the price goes up because there's a shortage of kilowatts. So then the price goes up. If he moves his pen and tells people,

say, listen, this is what we're doing on energy. Data centers are going to be here. AI is going to be here. It's going to be a technological advantage. And while we're building the micro-nukes, which we have had no permits on forever, while we're getting that going and jobs will be created in those power stations, guess what? I'm going to counteract the cost of electricity here. He had kind of a verbal handshake.

Did you see that a month ago with Microsoft? Microsoft agreed that it was going to cover it. You make that a mandate and say, look, we're not controlling. and we're not going to be in the data center business. But we're going to be in the no inflation on electric power because data centers are being built. This country, when we've had industrialization, it's benefited the consumer.

This is an industrialization step that could hurt the consumer because of electric prices. These are one of many things I think he could do it with his pen. He could do it with this pen and people would see it. They would see that they're, hey, our electricity just went down. I know the data centers can be paying part of his fair share. And guess what people would say? Wow, thank you. For example, what is it?

Apple, they're going to spend a trillion dollars in Texas? I mean, the amount of manufacturing. I'm going to press you on one thing. Oh, okay. Because I just can't. I mean, it's a fun question. 28. Who's going to be?

28. I believe that the tide is turning right here and that Marco Rubio's resume is being tremendously improved. And I saw the comment made by Vance, who he kind of, I don't know. know if it's a head fake or what it was last week where he said, well, maybe I won't run. Maybe I need to be more responsive to some family situations. He made that kind of flow. It wasn't a definitive comment. It wasn't a podium comment. You know what I'm talking about?

It was just he kind of floated, well, I may not run. I may have some family consideration. But it was one of those walking to the helicopter talking like this. It wasn't making an announcement at a podium. Before we get any prediction, should the president, or should he allow all the potential candidates to do what he did? There's no annoyance. We're not the Democratic Party. Fight it out. I agree with you.

J.D. Vance, you're not Kamala Harris. I agree 100%. But, Sean, there was an awesome moment in the state of the union. Besides him showing that the Democrats care more about illegals than Americans, there was a moment where he gives Marco Rubio the credit and Marco just sits there, stoic, doesn't need the limelight, doesn't need the pat on the back. And there's a moment, Sean, I'll show it to you after. He gives him like a wink to me that was like the, it's you.

By the way, I've known Marco. Yeah, that is Marco. Marco's a very humble guy. He's an amazing guy. Sean, I think the, I think Marco's number one, depending on how this war pans out in the next, I'll give a month, five weeks. It's going to be a huge thing because I think the JD Vance is are kind of, you notice how

they've stepped back, Sean, so where they could be like, hey, guys, this war is horrible. I was in those meetings saying, you know, the president said that I'm less enthusiastic about, yeah. If you're a Republican never go to. Well, Marco's a good guy, but you're also a good guy. And on behalf of all three of us, we like to say, thank you, thank you, thank you for being here. Oh, yeah. And we're getting the hook. No, no, no, no.

You got to. You're hooked in Hannity. No, no, no. You're hooked in Hannity. It's a second of a gun. You got to go to the parents. No, no, no. We have something for you.

Oh, Sean, this is a small token of a, before you even open it, Sean, we appreciate you, we appreciate you. We love you. This has never happened. And the first person that Pat thinks about is you to come, to bring you here. Thank you for filling in for the PPD podcast. Everybody at Valuetamint loves the work that you do. And as a token of our appreciation, Pat and us, we went to Italy.

Pat came up with a shoe. It's a future looks bright shoe. Sean, you have to open it and look at this. This was 100% made in Italy. It was inspired here in Fort Lauderdale. And it's a gift from us at Valued to you. And look at the bottom. Sean, look at the bottom.

Show that to the camera. So they are, boom. Boom. You know what? Sean, it's comfortable. All the things we talk about. What's that shoe are you, Sean? 11 and a half.

That's going to be fit perfect. Perfect like a glove. Is that going to fit like a glove? Yeah. All the things we talk about and all the things that we criticize and we do justly so that the viewers and people listening can hear and hear our voices

and thank you for bringing that. Despite all that, despite all the stuff that we look at and we process and we cranked through and the injustices and things we have, we believe in our soul that America is built on liberty, freedom, and free enterprise, and we believe the future looks bright. So we never let the reality of what we process every day,

sometimes a little loudly, sometimes with great passion. You look at it loudly at me. Who's that guy? We never let that obscure the clear-eyed view we have of the future, and it's Pat's, you know, a credo that he's instilled in all of us, and it's what he likes to say is the future looks bright. And so from Pat to you, he's not here to say thank you, but we say thank you on behalf of Pat.

So I ran into Pat at a steakhouse and with his wife and kids. I was there, Jean. The recent one? You know the restaurant? Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. I was there, but outside. Okay. And look, all I can say is I'm a fan of this podcast.

There are a lot of shows out there. Everyone has all the choices in the world. And I'm very honored that you guys had me here. It's not false humility. I'm not placating you guys. I'm not patronizing. but I watch and what I love about this podcast is smart. I learn something.

There's great insight. There's good, passionate debate. And, you know, I will tell you, all of you bring such unique gifts and talents to the table. As I get older, one of the things I like to do is I like to learn from other people. I've interviewed, I told you Steve Wynn. I've had dinner with a couple of billionaires. I never thought in my life I've ever met a billionaire.

And I like to sit there and just absorb. How did their story? What is their story? How did it happen? This whole Steve one story. But it's Patrick's story. It's your story, Adam. It's your story, Thomas. Vinny, you set me up. I owe him an apology. No, you don't. You totally set me up. Robert's been working. I don't know how the heck you do this. He's out there. He's like running this computer the whole time. And I'm like, we don't let him leave. He lives in the game. He has a whole wife and kids home. He doesn't even know how to go see his kids.

He sends me. You guys send me the prep to do this thing today. I'm like, okay, if I had to read this every day, I would go crazy. It's amazing. He's the best in the game. And, Sean, we appreciate you more than you know for everything that you've done and you're being here. And I want to say thanks to Patrick. I mean, honestly, to sit in his chair and in this beautiful new studio, love your new digs. It's very cool.

It's an honor to be here. Ouse, I am. Thank you. So, by the way, before we wrap up, what's next? What's next with the hang out with Hannity? I want you guys to come. Honestly, I want to do, I would love to pick up this discussion for four hours and not stop. Let's do it.

But you know what? People ask me, when you do radio, you do TV, and now you're doing a podcast. I said, that's all I want to do. I'll give you a quick story, and then we'll end it. You know, when Rush got sick, he died five years ago. And we all, every one of us that gives opinion owe him a debt of gratitude, because he forged this path for all of us. And to this day, I'm very grateful. And the thing about Rush Limbaugh is when he got sick,

his brother's been my agent my entire career, David Limbaugh. Oh, really? And I'm very close to the family. His niece was my assistant up until recently. She has like four kids now. She's busy. She's busy. She'll be back, though.

And so I'm just close to the family, close to his brother. But here's the beauty of Rush, and I think it's a lesson for all of us, about what you do in life, is when Rush was sick, and he would go when he announced that it was advanced stage four lung cancer he knew it was game over he just wanted to see how long it could last

he would stand this brutal treatment and what was his bucket list we watched the movie the bucket list right Jack Nicholson and Morgan Freeman his bucket list was to get back on the air

he was living his dream every day and I kind of feel the same way And getting to hang out with you guys is just like a cherry on top. God bless you all. Thank you all for having me. God bless you. To everyone at home, subscribe to our podcast, of course. Show Hannity some love for being today.

Subscribe to his podcast. Hang out with Sean. And check out the Hangout with Sean Hannity. Just had Governor Rod on there, ex-Governor Rod. Who's next? Hopefully I want you guys. A done deal. I love it.

It would be cool. And I want to do it. You said you want me to do yours. Oh, you're going to do hot cakes and hot cakes, which comes out on Monday with Stephen A. Smith, but I'm going to do, yeah, whenever you're here. I had Steven. Stephen is one of my best friends.

He's amazing. He's amazing. He's amazing. You got a chopper outside, and we got to go to the SLS. All right. All you, all going? I'm going. I know you're going.

I know you have to leave. All right, we'll let you get out of here. I think I'm taking him here. God bless you. Over and out. Don't worry. Patrick's back next week. Thank you, Sean Hannity.

Thanks, guys. Thank you for this, too.