PBD Podcast - Trump Mail-In Ballot BAN, Joy Reid RACIST Take, Ketamine Queen GUILTY & Digital Guilt TIPPING | PBD Podcast | Ep. 633

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover Trump’s push to ban mail-in ballots, Joy Reid’s racially charged attack on Trump, the “Ketamine Queen” pleading guilty ...in Matthew Perry’s overdose case, and how digital guilt tipping is reshaping culture.------💻 REGISTER FOR THE VAULT 2025 NETWORKING EVENT ON AUGUST 27TH: https://bit.ly/3JbJYSZ🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/40lR90L 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4kJ71lc 📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you ever think you would make it? I still am supposed to take sweet. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signs. Right here. You are a 101?
Starting point is 00:00:18 My son's right there. I think I've ever said this before. I think it's a parodian. Welcome, everybody. Let me tell you, folks. and we're talking parodie. Yeah, what you missed today prior to this was eight men standing here
Starting point is 00:00:36 watching Colin Farrell perform a song called Crazy Heart in this movie called, you know, You're all going to lose. You know, yeah, Colin Farrell. And everybody for a second forgot about it, and I said, no, we're getting started at 859,
Starting point is 00:00:54 and we got started on time. I said, get out. And everybody ran out, and Adam went out there, finished the song. Colin Farrell came back in because he wanted to hear what he had to say. Colin Farrell, 20 years ago, something like that, I'm at a spa in Melrose called Voda, and I would go.
Starting point is 00:01:09 There was a great Russian spa that I would take my guys to. I'm sitting there. That's the one, right? That's it. Yeah, they would have good, what do you call it, caviar, and they would make good borsh. Believe it or not. Phenomenal borsh. If I remember it correctly.
Starting point is 00:01:24 And I took him there. I didn't take him down there. and these guy starts talking to me to my left with an accent. I'm like, who is this guy? I'm like, oh, shit. That's you. Are you who I think? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:34 So we did a survey this morning. If anybody remembers his first movie, first big movie that he was a star, nobody could get it. But some of you guys, if you can get it without Google in a comment in a comment section, no chat, GBT, no Google, no perplexity, no Grock, nothing. See if you can get it. Anyways, we're going to continue. Stories we got today. Okay. Stories we got today.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Ketamine Queen. Takes plea deal in case that shock Hollywood. Tom's got a lot to say about this one. Trump tells Fox News he believes Xi won't act on Taiwan. Trump pushes for eliminating use of mail-in-balloting and voting machines, and let me tell you, Newsom and others have lost their mind. Michigan City Councilman caught on camera stuffing election dropbox with absentee ballots days before primary.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Chris Pratt comes out and says, be reasonable. roast anti-Trump Americans, so myridden hatred, they reject his success. After White House talks on Ukraine, Trump says he plans to set up a Zelensky-Putin meeting. Zelensky funding Ukraine military with $90 billion weapons package. Security guarantees discussed, which, by the way, the way he did it is actually very interesting. He got the EU to buy $90 billion of weapons to give to Zelensky. finally somebody is negotiating on the behalf of
Starting point is 00:02:56 American people which is great to see that I think moving forward nobody should be able to become a president without being a good negotiator like you know how you think about what values you want the president to have they better know how to negotiate Tom don't you think absolutely and we're seeing it
Starting point is 00:03:11 we need bureaucrats out and a businessman in and guess what look at the results America we need more than sniffers to become presidents we need the ability to yeah that's right So Democratic Texas lawmakers spend the night on state house floor after refusing GOP demand for law enforcement escort. That's an exciting story. Workers are now job hugging or clinging to their positions for dear life. You could have said workers are now job spooning. They don't want their jobs to go away.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Adam does this every day before podcast I tell them to move away. America's tipping culture spirals from 15% to 30% as digital. digital guilt trip kicks in. You know how you go to a regular store? They sell shoes. You buy the shoe. Would you like to tip 22%? I just bought a shoe, buddy.
Starting point is 00:03:59 You didn't bring me in Arnold Palmer. I didn't get balsamic glaze. I didn't get anything else. You want me to tip you for 30? And Vinny loves doing it. Vinny says, why only 22? Can we go 30 or 40? It's just Vinny's culture.
Starting point is 00:04:11 It's a Middle Eastern side of it. It is what it is. Undintended consequence of technology. Housing starts climbed unexpectedly in July, Wall Street Journal's story. Young adults say friendship is getting too expensive. Folks, we can't be friends. I lost three people today.
Starting point is 00:04:26 New survey finds 44% skip major events due to cost. So that old song, remember, why can't we be friends? Because I'm broke. Can't we be friends. Costs too much. That's it. That's it. You can't do it anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Cost too much. A Christian revival. Believe in God triples amongst 18 to 24-year-olds and a 45-year-old, allegedly is going to Christian I'm sorry Christian revival and belief in God triples amongst 18 to 24 year old Britons I thought there was like a Jewish guy
Starting point is 00:04:59 that was going to go to Christian church MSNBC changed the name folks I don't know if you saw that or not unbelievable change Is that official? It looks like they went to Hillary Clinton's marketing team with a new name I mean you just got to see how it looks MSNBC to change the name to MS now so they could have said MS 13 now I don't think they marketing is that smart it would fit
Starting point is 00:05:18 You know what it is? All of a sudden, Mara Savatrucha, ratings went up. Oh, yeah. What channel do you? Hey, Vato, what do you watch? M.S. now, fool? I watched MS now, say, Mara Savatrucha now. They're sticking up for illegals, fool.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Train de Agua next. In upcoming Comcast spinoff deal. All right, Joy Reed is upset at Elvis. And listen, I'm going to play a clip. If people forgot the greatness of Elvis, I'm going to show you something that maybe 95% of you haven't seen. You're going to get the chills all over your body. and if you do get the chills all over your body, just go say something to Joe and say, Joey,
Starting point is 00:05:53 go do your podcast and go after other singers. Leave Elvis alone, but Joey Reed launches finger-jabbing rant against Elvis and says, nicknaming him the king was racist. So now it's racist to call Elvis the king. By the way, did you ever hear what Elvis said when they asked him about politics, his answer?
Starting point is 00:06:13 It's beautiful. Rob, let's find that is what's an awesome, awesome answer. What did he say? Brandon and Alisa have it. He said it's all Jews fault. He just went straight to Mossad. He says, I don't have strong opinions, but he went away from it. So we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Ashley St. Clair. I don't know if you guys know about this girl. Ashley St. Clair. Claims she's broke and facing eviction from New York City apartment. I don't know how, did she ever end up getting money from Elon or no, Rob? I don't know if she ever got the money from Elon. According to reports, it was a, there was a large upfront settlement. and I forget how much, but it was, I believe, in the millions,
Starting point is 00:06:49 and then it was $500,000 a year annually for the child. Oh, so she's trolling is what she's doing. She may be trolling. Okay. Andrew Tate sues TikTok and meta, apparently $100 million. He said $400 million in a video, but apparently $100 million, alleging the platforming collusion. Apple expands iPhone production in India for U.S.-bound new models,
Starting point is 00:07:12 which we'll see what's going to happen there. I think I have a theory of what happened with that $600 billion. that Apple raised from 500 to 600. Tom brought up a story about Target versus Walmart. Tom, I knew you just show me that. It's not in the stories. We have to talk about that. We absolutely have to talk about.
Starting point is 00:07:27 That's a brilliant story. I'm going to come to you. It may even be one of the first three stories I'll come to you with. Bad leadership has consequences. That's right. Carney left out a White House meeting with Trump Zelensky and European leaders.
Starting point is 00:07:37 It was illegal trucker behind fatal U-turn failed English language says. Oh, that video that everybody sees. Yeah, we can show it because it's not... Russia open to bilateral or trilateral talks with Trump and Zelensky Putin, foreign minister. Amanda Seals takes on 20 black conservatives and a debate bound to make your blood boil. Anthony Weiner predicts Zoran Mamdani will secure democratic endorsement in New York City race. Well, you know what I mean if Anthony Weiner says it, it's done. Okay, so I don't know about Koran.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He is reading Eric Adams slams, Zoran Mamdani over prostitution stands. Questions religious values. Okay, so we'll see what it happened there. Now, today, a couple things I want to share with you guys. One, do you guys know what day today's? Does anybody know what day today's? Today happens to be the National Lemonade Day, okay? Today, it's actually the National Lemonade Day, okay?
Starting point is 00:08:33 So when you think about the National Lemonade Day, we launched this campaign a few months ago. If you remember, Rob, if you can go to it, it was the zested forward lemon box, which ended up becoming a hit. and we got so many awesome stories and testimonies. The other day I was reading all the reviews at the bottom of what stories people were saying
Starting point is 00:08:52 and the reaction they got from folks. It's absolutely awesome. I'm going to read this to you. Imagine someone's having a bad day. Things are not going the way they wanted. This box shows up, value taming. They open it up and there's a message there, an inspirational message there that they hear.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And then outside of the inspirational message, there's a few items. A zested forward hat, future looks bright hat, a few other items. and it's a way, what is that audio, Rob? Is that Adam, you? Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:21 So I want to read some of these stories to you of people who use this and send it to others and what their experience was from the people that received it. So here's one, hello. Yes, yes, yes. Amazingly, Zest, help me surprise. Help me to surprise gentlemen
Starting point is 00:09:38 who has everything and more for his 98th birthday. That's awesome. He was looking and listening to Patrick, never seen anything like that, whispered. Great idea. Touch the heart. Me too. Thank you. My appreciation is going out to you, Lillia. Okay. So that's one right there. Next one. My sister-in-law is going through chemotherapy. She was very surprised and blessed by the gift. Thank you for thinking of such a lovely gesture.
Starting point is 00:10:03 God bless you. Here's another one from Eric Stewart. My customer is going through some hard times with business and family. The VT Lemon Box put a smile on his face with a heartfelt thank you. guys. I can go on and on and on with these stories. Folks, if you know a friend or family that's going through challenging times, go to vtemerch.com, place the order, zest it forward to somebody, make someone's day. Sometimes the best feeling in the world isn't receiving the gift. Sometimes best feeling in the world isn't you getting the promotion, isn't you getting all of that. Sometimes it's just doing it for somebody else. So if you want to start your day, you know, for me, anytime I was having a bad day in sales the last 25 years, the first thing I would do when I would
Starting point is 00:10:42 go through a lot of rejections, I would call five of my clients or five of my clients or five of my guys, and I would tell them how amazing that I would find a way to make somebody else's day, then my spirits would come up, then I would perform and go out there and, you know, make my calls and meet with my clients that I needed to. So if you want to be able to do that for somebody else, send us to someone. Not only will you bless someone's day, but it's going to come back and do the same thing to you. So that's one. Number two, August 27th, I want to remind you guys of what's happening here on the campus. August 27th, we're given private tours of the entire campus. Right now we're building a soccer field here, literally
Starting point is 00:11:15 We're building a footsall field here. One of the biggest futsal fields in all of state of Florida that's being built right behind me as we speak. Every time people come and see our campus, they're like, we had no idea. You guys had nearly 200 employees and you guys are doing all this stuff. Yes, this is what we do. Really? Yes. So if you're somebody that wants to come and get a private tour of what we're doing here,
Starting point is 00:11:34 add value tainment, line holding, all you need to do is have a ticket that you bought to go to the vault conference. So if you're somebody that's going to the wall conference, if you get a general ticket, you can come here to network in the hangar. There'll be a lot of surprises there. But if you're somebody that gets a platinum-orne executive, our guys will give you a tour of the entire operation. Obviously, no cameras when you come to the executive floor. And if you get a founder and a CEO ticket sold out,
Starting point is 00:11:58 but if you get a founder ticket, and even if you're an existing CEO-ticket holder, you come through, I'm going to give you the tour of the entire property multiple times with all the other people that are coming down. We've already had hundreds of people that have registered. This is limited to a certain amount of people because we're going to have security all over the place. If you want to go out there and get registered, get yourself a ticket, Rob, how does somebody register to put their names on the list?
Starting point is 00:12:19 I'm putting the link in the description right now and it'll also be pinned in the chat. Okay, perfect. So he's going to put in the link in the description and it'll be in the chat. So those two things. Either make someone's day or get yourself a ticket to go to the ball conference, come and get it toward the office here and network with nearly 400 other people that will be here as well. It'll be a fun time. Having said that, let's get right into the story.
Starting point is 00:12:39 All right. So have we, what part of the stories, Rob, have we? we not covered with what happened. Monday, the meeting that they have, we've not covered any of it, right? We're talking about Alaska, the summit in Ukraine and Russia. We just had, I mean, the flyover we talked about with the B-2 bombers. It was pretty gangster. But the Europe, Zelensky, that meetings, that conversation we haven't had yet. So let's go through that. So at first, you see Zelensky posts a video of a meeting some of the guys of what he was going to wear. And everyone's like, dude, this guy's not going to show up with it. Are you freaking, I was, I was myself.
Starting point is 00:13:12 annoyed, saying, are you kidding me what a terrible diplomat this guy is if he's not showing up with a suit? He showed up like this at first. Look at this. The pre-meeting. The pre-meeting. The t-shirt, all this stuff walking around. Still disrespectful. For sure. Everybody's dressing. It was like the rehearsal. But this is the rehearsal. He's meeting everybody and still got a t-shirt on. So then all of a sudden, Trump is doing his waiting to see what the guy is wearing when he gets out of the car. And here's what it looks like when Zelensky shows up. Okay, show this clip. Watch this one here. Go ahead. Rob.
Starting point is 00:13:43 For the camera's watch. Yeah, there you go. He's like, I dare you not to wear a suit. Okay. Dude, if he walked out with T-shirt and shorts, Trump would have slapped him right in the face. We love them.
Starting point is 00:14:00 We love them. Oh, well. So, that's the visit. Good. They go in. All that looks like, Johnny. That looks like me standing on the porch waiting for a guy to come take one of my
Starting point is 00:14:16 daughters out, you know, and you just stand on the porch, you wait there, he walks up there and you compliment the kid, and he's like this tall. Taps him a little bit of it. You know, it's just like, because who was the alpha there? That was Trump's body language, everything sitting there. Trump didn't move an inch. Zolenski had
Starting point is 00:14:32 to move out of the car toward him. Pat, if you were there standing and some young man came to pick up Sena, you'd probably have a gun, or what would you have? I don't even want to go there. I mean, I've been having such great conversations. I'm going to be in the bushes. I'm going to be hiding in the bushes.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Make the move, buddy. Let me show you guys this. Let's stay on this. Let's stay on this topic. Let's not get distracted. Rob, can you do me favor? I just want to show you guys what it was like the last time they had a meeting. I want to remind you, Rob, if you can show this clip here, this is a clip of how heated it got last time.
Starting point is 00:15:03 In the Oval Office. In the Oval Office. And by the way, I'm telling you, we've not even reacted to this clip. We've not seen this clip. This is a very different clip. No, we've not even reacted to this couple months ago. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I want you to see how he did it got the last time, where Trump pushed him in ways where you can really tell he was not happy. And you can tell diplomacy lacked from the other side, being entitled, coming in with what America's done for him. So just listen to the exchange. This is the last time, folks. This is not just a couple days ago. Go ahead, Rob. I don't want to cease fire. I don't want to cease fire.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I want to go. and I wanted this, look, if you could get a ceasefire right now, I tell you, you take it, so the bullets stop flying and you meant stop getting killed. Of course, we want to stop the war. But you're saying you don't want a ceasefire. I want a ceasefire. I want a ceasefire, because you'll get a ceasefire faster than an agreement. Ask how old people about ceasefire.
Starting point is 00:15:58 What they think? It doesn't matter for you. That wasn't with me. That was with a guy named Biden, who was not a smart person. That was your, that was with Obama. It was your president. Excuse me. That was with Obama, who gave you sheets, and I gave you javelins.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I gave you the javelins to take out all those tanks. Obama gave you sheets. In fact, the statement is, Obama gave sheets, and Trump gave javelins. You've got to be more thankful. She's asking, what if Russia breaks the ceasefire? What if anything? What if the bomb drops on your head right now? Okay?
Starting point is 00:16:35 What if they broke it? I don't know. They broke it with Biden, because Biden, it isn't. didn't respect him. They didn't respect Obama. They respect me. All I can say is this. He might have broken deals with Obama and Bush. And he might have broken him with Biden. He did, maybe. Maybe he didn't. I don't know what happened. But he didn't break him with me. He wants to make a deal. I don't know if you can make a deal. The problem is, I've empowered you to be a tough guy. I don't think he'd be a tough guy without the United States. Yeah, that's what I'm saying to you.
Starting point is 00:17:07 No. We saw that you don't have the cards. You're out. And if we're out, you'll fight it out. I don't think it's going to be pretty, but you'll fight it out. I mean, that is by... You don't have the cards. Okay, so we heard this one. Pause it right there, Rob. It's like yelling at your time.
Starting point is 00:17:22 You don't have the cards. So just want to put this, that's the last meeting. We only got a clip of us. That's the last meeting, guys. You want to know how this meeting goes? Rob, if you can go to the clip of what happens with this meeting, right, when they're together. This time around, he's got everybody sitting in front of us. his desk. He's got all the guys
Starting point is 00:17:39 there. That's him. Macron's sitting in front of him. Everybody's sitting there. Go ahead and play the clip round. This is actually an interview that he did with Fox News where it confirms that the U.S. will provide air support for Ukraine if they come to a peace deal. Go for it. When it comes to security, they're willing to put people on the ground.
Starting point is 00:17:55 We're willing to help them with things, especially probably if you talk about by air because there's nobody has the kind of stuff we have. Really, they don't have. But I don't think it's going to be a problem. I think of a deal is made. You know, famous last words, right? But I think if a deal is made, I think Russia's had it. They've all had it. And for a very extended period of time, I don't think there'll be a problem.
Starting point is 00:18:17 But there'll be some form of security. It can't be NATO because that was a, that's just not something that would ever, ever happen. They couldn't do that. Who would want that? I mean, if you were Russia, who would want to have your enemy, your opponent sitting on your line? You don't do that. So it was always thought that Ukraine was sort of a buffer between Russia and the rest of Europe. And it was. It was a big, wide buffer. Everything worked out well until Biden got involved. Okay. So, Tom, your thoughts on this meeting, the visit, the videos, the clips. What are you thinking? Well, I love the fact how the meeting ended. And it ended without any of the Europeans going to the newspaper and saying stuff. You remember when the fight happened. You remember when the fight
Starting point is 00:19:04 happened in the Oval Office, what you were showing there. And remember what happened? Starmer popped off to the newspapers and the first place that Zelensky went. Remember this, Vinny? Zelensky is now shaking hands going around Europe with a pat on the head tour. That didn't happen. I love point one. I love the fact that didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Zelensky says no to the American media, specifically Fox. He said, nope, I'm going home. I'm not going to do any interviews. Thank you very much. So everybody left the negotiation table, not leaking or popping off. They went back to their respective corners. That tells me that the moderation that Trump provided got people to talk and then not leak and go home. Point one. Point two, it says, you suddenly had Putin from afar saying something halfway positive about coming together to talk. So guess what? Whatever you did, Putin is suddenly not over there.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Oh, we'll never do this. Forget it. Never mind. No, no, you didn't get that from Putin. So what I'm seeing, the word trilateral is working, and people are going to understand what this means. Trilateral. I am here, and I will try, and the triangle is the two people that are fighting. And I believe this is a masterclass in negotiation. He got everybody in the room. He got Zelensky there.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Nobody leaked. They all went back to their corners. And then Putin speaks up and says, well, maybe in the next step, we will get together. We will have the meeting, which is what Trump said he thought would have. happened after he met with Putin. So it's coming true and it's not falling apart. The thing that I don't like is the way the American media is trying to kill it. I feel the American media MSM is like actively trying to kill. What about this? And what about that? And this didn't happen. And that didn't happen. And it's like, and you've got people like Rubio who are speaking back, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:20:54 you don't know what happened. You don't know, you know this. But you don't know the other five things we did. That's what I think. Yeah. And it's funny because when you're talking about media, The fact that Zelensky is like, I'm not going to Fox. I'm not doing any interviews. I wonder how much of that is Trump saying, don't even do any interviews with anybody. I don't want anybody to talk about it. Go home. I'm going to call Putin.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I have one request from all of you guys. Don't talk to media. Go home. Let me call Putin and handle this. And then I'll follow up with you guys and tell you what's happening next. I don't know whether that was the exchange or not, but that's the vibe I got. And now the conversation becomes... Would you have said that?
Starting point is 00:21:29 I would have said that. I would have said that. I would have said that. I would have said that. I would have said that. I would have said that. I would have said that. But, you know, mainstream media talking about,
Starting point is 00:21:37 well, I can't believe it was like a friendly thing. And then clips came up. President Bush invited Putin to go with his older son to go fishing together. Clintons met with them laughing. Obama, there's all these meetings with other people that they had these. You know, Obama went and sat down with a communist at a baseball game for a couple days. And they're laughing. And the media of celebrating, oh, look what's going on over here.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But no, no, no. If this guy wants to come in and create a peace deal, no. He is a guy that's, you know, totally owned by Putin and all the other guys. But this is the part where I'm at. I don't think it works anymore. He's destroyed mainstream media so bad that MSNBCs officially changed their name to Mara Svatruc now. It is officially MS now. Did you see this?
Starting point is 00:22:19 Can you imagine MS, they're so afraid of MS-13 that they changed their name to MS-13 now? I thought it was multiple sclerosis now. The only thing it's missing is the 13 in the middle. If I was Mar-Sav-A-Truccia, I would actually sue them for using our name. This is like, you know, what do you call it? but patent law. You should go out and say, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:22:36 Usen our organization. Use it a copyright. Yeah. Where is that trademark on the bottom right? What's this one here, Rob? I'm waiting for Rachel Maddow. We'll come back to this.
Starting point is 00:22:45 As if MSNBC thinks that that's going to change it. Like the people are going to go, oh, this is a new network. Nobody's going to forget. The numbers are all time low on the path. In regard to Russia, well, people don't understand
Starting point is 00:23:00 all these morons on the left with the media, Bush in 2008 That's during Bush Russia went to Georgia Right invaded Georgia Obama in 2014 That's when Russia sees Crimea And then Biden in 2022
Starting point is 00:23:13 None of this has to do with Trump He's trying to fix it And that first meeting was like the Like the arrogant kid time That spoiled that comes in And the father who's been away It's like hey listen We're not playing that crap anymore
Starting point is 00:23:24 The old guy who doesn't even know What the hell day it is or what his name is Or who his son is He's out and I'm the new guy And this is a great example of a freaking alpha he's back he's back in charge and that's that's that's what the hell we need and that's what we've been lacking and as much as they can say pat it's not going to do anything it's not going to change anything change your name of your network yeah and by the way a part of this
Starting point is 00:23:45 a part of this was the fact that he agreed to sell 90 billion dollars of a weapons package and the way apparently brokered this deal which is brilliant rob i think you got a clip on this the way he brokered this deal is he got i believe eU to buy nine $90 billion of weapons from U.S. to send it to them. So guess what taxpayers? You didn't pay for it. EU paid for it the way they structured this deal. So yes, he's getting the weapons, but now it's like, hey, EU,
Starting point is 00:24:14 if you guys want me to keep sending stuff, you guys want the war to end? Well, guess what? Spend your money. No, no, no. We don't want to spend anymore. Well, then let's walk. Let's get a piece deal here. Yeah, we do want a piece deal.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Then great. Because you don't mind spending our money. Everybody spent some money, but he's now putting more the on us on them. Adam, your thoughts on this. There's a lot to cover. but Zelensky dressed up in a suit for one person and one person only, it's Trump. If Trump didn't want to, if Trump didn't have an issue with the suit, the guy would have showed up in a t-shirt. We all know that.
Starting point is 00:24:42 As far as MSNBC, one of the main reasons they probably changed their name is because it, how many times does Trump go with MSDNC? All right, we don't like that. They're very sensitive over there. The snowflake mentality. That's worse now. That's true. MS. MS now.
Starting point is 00:24:57 As far as Vinny goes, you said that, you know, I'm not trying to pick on you or anything like that. You said that, you know, Trump had nothing to do with Ukraine, what have you. However, he was impeached over Ukraine. It was a perfect call, I swear to God. It was, you know, there was an impeachment. It was all BS. Exactly. It was all BS.
Starting point is 00:25:13 But my point is he was almost impeached over it. It technically was. Quid pro quo, that's why I learned that I'm not getting into all that. I'm just letting you know there is some history with that. But probably the most important thing that Trump said, and this is a global thing, not just Russia and Ukraine. He goes, why would you want an enemy? at your gates, basically. You need to have a buffer talking about almost putting yourself in Russia's position when it comes to NATO.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And that is very true. You don't want an enemy at your gate. Why do you think we want a wall put up between the border of United States and Mexico? Why is the DMZ between North Korea and South Karina? Why does India and Pakistan find over the little piece of land right there? Why is this land in Israel and Gaza need to have a buffer between... Sinai after the war with Egypt. Exactly. So when you have enemies at the gate, you better have a fricking buffer, whether it's a wall, whether it's a DMZ zone, whatever it is. So Trump is
Starting point is 00:26:08 absolutely like putting yourself in Putin's position. I totally understand why you wouldn't not, what you wouldn't want Ukraine as a part of NATO. So last point, could you imagine if Kamala was negotiating this deal right now? Could you just picture Kamala in the Oval Office meeting with Putin, with world leaders Zelensky Kirstarmer McCrone Georgia Maloney
Starting point is 00:26:33 how much would should fumble the bag if Kamala was in office thank God we have to help go ahead Vinnie well I just want to say that that fake impeachment with Vindman and all that
Starting point is 00:26:44 that has nothing to do with them going to war it was a by the way it was someone who heard from someone else that they heard him on the call saying something it was all BS
Starting point is 00:26:53 and they even released the transcript that it was a perfect call. So I don't know how you're correlating that with an actual invasion and Joe Biden saying yeah, they could do a minor incursion. He was inviting them to attack.
Starting point is 00:27:06 So that's what I'm saying. You weren't picking on me because it doesn't correlate. My point is that's why I gave you the disclaimer. I'm not, I'm just saying he did have something to Ukraine. He got impeached over Ukraine. Yeah, but Adam, that's my point. Whether it was a perfect call or horrible call. He got impeached. It's all bullshit. Everything with that is BS.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Correct. We're not disagreeing here. Everything is BS. Well, and with his impeachment. Also BS is all this stuff BS. Oh, no, that's not. No, that's not. Don't get him started on that. No, what I'm going is I had Michael Wolfe on a couple days ago, and I spoke to him. And I was expecting him to go hardcore Trump, all this other stuff. He actually didn't.
Starting point is 00:27:42 This is the first time I saw him where he wasn't fully, it's all his fault. What he did say is he says they were friends in the 90s and whatever, 2000s. They had a 15-year friendship because they would spend some time together. But I was expecting more to come from Michael. Instead, a lot of other things came up about other folks. But let me stay back on this because I went off a little bit. The point you were making here, Vinny, is on what happened there, it's true when you're thinking about the timing back then. But today, now, if they hold this meeting with everybody, where did they do it?
Starting point is 00:28:12 Because some places, if he travels to, those countries can arrest them on crime, what do you call it? Crimes against humanity. I don't think he can go to Germany. I don't think Putin you're talking about. I think Putin cannot have the meetings on certain places. They're talking about, you know, I think Putin wants UAE or Russia. They're talking about back to Alaska again. I think there was a Budapest, Geneva, Switzerland came up.
Starting point is 00:28:37 So this next meeting for them to be had, you know, could be a lot of different places. But there's a few other things in the visit. Rob, can you pull up the clip of when they're standing there? And he says, wow, look at that picture right there. Yeah. Bad day. Bad day. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah. That's a bad day. You know which one I'm talking about? You didn't see this? Oh, you see this? Oh, this is a great clip. So watch this, what he does. He's pointing to the butler painting.
Starting point is 00:29:01 So watch this. Go back a little bit right. Watch this. That was not a great day. I got shot in the ear. It was not my finest moment. By the way, let me tell you, that moment was 12 seconds.
Starting point is 00:29:22 That probably got 50 million, 100 million online views, right? He understands that's 12 seconds. That's what you call a brilliant marketer and a negotiator in one. Okay? That's what he's got for everybody looks at and like, ah, shit.
Starting point is 00:29:38 You know, it's a good day for a lot of us. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's interesting when he's playing all of those things and then afterwards there was the hot mic moment that was released on both sides. Did you hear this hot mic moment? Hot mic.
Starting point is 00:29:50 So there was two hot, no, hot rot. Hot rout. Hot rout. There was a couple hot mic moments that took place. One of them was with European leaders. The other one was with Trump. Which one do you have, Rob? This is where the European leaders praise Trump for dealing with the press.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Okay. Go ahead. That's all we ask for is fairness with the media. Thank you all very much. We appreciate it. Thank you very much. Where's the hot microphone? Right here. Oh, thank you for being so far.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Thank you. Watch this. But he loves it. He loves it. He loves it. Who's saying that, Georgia Maloney? Ah, the moment she says and you speak. This guy, go back a little bit.
Starting point is 00:30:50 You speak Italian now? I never want to speak with my friends. He's a very good point of God for you, man. Yeah, I know. He went to Cali. I never wanted to speak to my press. She doesn't. That was Georgia Maloney.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah, because they see the issues with the press, right? But then there's another hot mic moment, Rob, right? Where, you know, Trump is talking? Is this the one? Go ahead, Rob. Go ahead. He wants to make a deal I think he wants to make a deal
Starting point is 00:31:32 You understand that it's crazy as it sounds Sit down Sit down everybody He wants to make a deal with me Tri-lateral Yeah He wants to make a deal with me Can you a question about
Starting point is 00:31:41 Honestly How much of a percentage do you think Because I think he'd be safe Poulin's not stupid Okay Trump going to meet him in Moscow How much of a statement would that be Like listen
Starting point is 00:31:53 The guy is cool he's going to treat me with respect I came to Alaska I'm going to go there and show everybody like this is this is this is the respect that he's going to show me and I'm going to show him what do you think Matt? Listen To go into the belly of the beast
Starting point is 00:32:08 Yeah so so when you think about that there's a couple things in negotiation you want the other person to come to you yes that's a power you know sign of strength and the part here that Trump doesn't have to think about that he still may they all came to you Putin came to Alaska, came to you.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Zelensky and the leaders came to you. I think it would be wild if this was done in Russia. I think that would be epic if it was done in Russia. I don't think the EU leaders would agree. And I don't think Zelensky would agree. Because the same way Putin wouldn't go to Germany,
Starting point is 00:32:46 Zelensky wouldn't feel safe going into Russia. He wouldn't want that. But if I'm Trump for optics, dude, I'd love this thing to be in Russia. It usually happens like at a new neutral foreign site. Yeah, exactly. The Camp David Peace Accords gave a place for Egypt and Amar Sadd and the Hakken Began to come together.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And then the Helsinki Accords. Yeah. And then Requevac, where the U.S. and Reagan and Gorbachev met to talk about salt and salt too. I think it was called. So it's pretty traditional to pick a place that's sort of like a neutral field. Go play the Super Bowl in a separate city where nobody has. their own fans there, and nobody claims favoritism or power modes. Well, Reagan was West Berlin, right?
Starting point is 00:33:30 When he announced, tear down that wall. Oh, yeah, that was a speech he made there, but it was in Reykjavik, when he said to Gorbachev, Gorbz, what did you want me to say? And he turns to him, and he said, you should have said yes. That's right. That's right. Pat, you're absolutely right. Don't forget, who's the big boss right now?
Starting point is 00:33:50 It's Trump, and it ain't even close. Every world leader is coming to the United States. United States, whether it's D.C., whether it's Alaska, to meet with Trump. U.S. is still the world's number one superpower. And you know who's conveniently just like not involved in this whatsoever? Canada? It's China. I mean, they're not invited. We don't need them around. They're not involved in the war. The whole world is trying to figure out this peace deal between Russia and Ukraine and China's over there sort of excommunicated doing their own communist thing over there. Let's leave them be. Yeah. And by the way, there's a
Starting point is 00:34:23 reason. But I promise you, you know, I had Ray Lewis here yesterday. We did a couple of our podcast. And he was telling me when one time, you know, Bernie Sanders, the running back, okay, obviously Barry Sanders. I said Bernie Sanders because that lady on ESPN didn't even know when Drusky was wearing a Barry Sanders jersey. And she claims Chador Sanders. Yes. I'm just, so he tells me one time that Barry Sanders is coming in at a game where he's fighting for a record or whatever. He says, listen, we watched him. We know he was coming. You know what we did? We said, to the team, nothing's going to happen. And the guy ran for 41 yards. 2.2 yards of carry. He's telling the story, right?
Starting point is 00:34:59 You know who's watching the every single clip as if a team that's sitting on the sidelines that they're about to, they have a buy week because they got another game coming up next week, but they're studying the tapes. China's watching everything. China's watching every. They've watched that thing, the mic, what do you call it, the hot mic? They've watched that probably 600 times. And they have. have probably used AI technology to hear other conversations from 20 other people with 60 different screen study and everybody's body language, how people reacted. That's probably how in depth they've gone. That's my assumption because, you know, they have a target on what they need to go after
Starting point is 00:35:39 and that's Taiwan. And they almost need to do that because, you know, what you see with the numbers that are coming up with China that they really were affected by tariffs. And now the story comes about with Apple, you know, moving their, expanding their production to India, that's 60 million iPhones per year, away from China to India? What? That's a lot of phones. That's a lot of jobs. China's losing a big account of a $3, $4 trillion company that's going away from them. What if people all of a sudden realize that we no longer need to go to those guys? If Apple's leaving, who else is leaving? Who else is watching? And so when you got Taiwan, that's got 61% of the, semiconductor chips with TSM, which it stands for Taiwan semi-conductor chips,
Starting point is 00:36:25 they know there's a monopoly there, not a monopoly, but they have a lynch, they got control, you've got to go through it. China's not happy about it, but Tom, I'm going to come to you with a story from Bloomberg is Apple expands iPhone production in India with U.S. brands, U.S.-bound new models, okay? And there was some issue with U.S. and India as well, but this is a complete separate issue. Apple is expanding iPhone production in India at five factories, including two recently open plans to reduce reliance on China-on-U.S.-bound models with operations scaling up to produce all four iPhone 17 models.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Ahead of their September debut, this marks the first time all-new variations, including pro-level versions, will ship from India from the outset per people with knowledge of the matter. The more move aligns with Apple strategy to diversify its supply chain amid U.S. China trade attentions with India now accounting for 10% of global iPhone production per Reuters. Tom, what's the story here? So what's been going on is Apple has been preparing for the China situation for about five years. Apple has sensed very clearly discontent from the GOP side for years.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And they have also been, remember, the last thing you just said, 10% of iPhone production. So it's not everything. Moving 10%. So they went to India so that they could get cheap labor rates in a country that got them less heat. And that's politically. And, you know, logistically, now if something does happen in China, like what if China
Starting point is 00:38:04 attacks Taiwan and we put the hammer down and say, okay, embargo, no ships to any ports coming from China right now, no exports. We would do that. Like if they invaded China, if they invaded Taiwan and just went there, in addition, we'd be worried about chips, but we'd put the hammer down and say, economic embargo right now, nothing moves. And then Apple would be like, oh, crap, I can't get phones. So they had a political side of it and then a practical side. The practical side was, it's never good to have all your manufacturing in one place. Something happens.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Could be the environment. Could be a war. Could be all these things we're talking about. And so they were already doing that. The punchline was Tim Cook. telling Trump, well, we've been planning to move stuff out of China for a while, and we're moving stuff to India, and expecting Trump to be happy because it's hurting China, but Trump moved your next five moves straight down.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Why don't you build them here? Bring him here. Why don't you bring it here to USA? I appreciate that you're helping me. That helps me with China. Thank you. He didn't say it like that, Tom. He wasn't friendly about it.
Starting point is 00:39:08 No, he wasn't. He says, I'm not happy. His keywords were, I'm not happy that you're moving. moving them to India, what does that mean to me in states? And I think that's the reason why he raised it from $500 billion to $600 billion, that additional $100 billion. Apple thought that, okay, enemy of my enemy is my friend. So Apple thought, hey, I'm moving some stuff out of China.
Starting point is 00:39:28 It gives you, it's going to help the bargaining chip. And he get the response from him. No, that's, you know, one side that may be okay. But you know what? Where is it here? You know, I'll be right back. You know, printer is moving and everything. The next day, Tim Cook.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Oh, this just in, $500 billion. I mean, $600 billion, I'll be building chips, I'll be building all the things here. And that just shows you, again, the power of negotiation because, by the way, moving to India does help Trump, but he's not going to give that to Apple. He's going to say, no, no, no, I want the next steps. I want it here.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Let me tell you this. Moving to India may help Trump, but don't forget this. Here's what you never forget. And people tend to consistently forget, My opinion. So how many years ago did U.S. not worry about China's power and they were worried about Japan, right?
Starting point is 00:40:20 You go to the... 1980s, basically. 1980s with the auto industry. The ping pong, the Jijing Ping, or, you know, the... Well, not Jijing Ping. What was the guy's name? Ping pong diplomacy? Pink pong diplomacy, but what was the guy's name that did the whole thing?
Starting point is 00:40:34 You brought this up in California the other day. So when you think about... What was his name? What was his buddy's name? Anyways, you really got to practice your Mandarin. But let me go with this. The part to be thinking about here is nobody, Nixon didn't think China was going to end up being this powerful and this ambitious to want to beat America when he did the deal.
Starting point is 00:40:55 That was in 1972, 71, when he brokered the deal with China, the ping pong diplomacy. Everything that Kissinger talked about was like low-cost manufacturing. And Japan taught China how to have 5,000 banks with 35 loan officers each, with 35 locations. you know, taking 5.25 loans, all this stuff that they had in place, that was at a time where China was not well respected. And then all of a sudden, they're number two about to be number one. So you know what India's at right now? Number four. They're about to pass up and be number three. India's about to be number three. And guess what happens if you keep strengthening India? India becomes China 2.0. Now, they will say India is not one that wants to do war and
Starting point is 00:41:39 India gets along with all their enemies. They get along with China and U.S. and Russia and everybody. They don't want to have a war with anybody. That's India's, what do you call it, identity. Except Pakistan. Except until when you all of a sudden get a new leader in that maybe is not Modi and realizes that, hey, maybe we can beat China and U.S., let's go for everything, and then India starts using the leverage.
Starting point is 00:42:04 So the way to fix it long term is to make sure you don't have 100% of your iPhone production being in China and India. Why don't you bring 30% of it in U.S.? Why don't you bring 30% of it in U.S. and allow some people in America, guess what? What if we did this? What if Apple did this? How do you think this would work out? Just a thought. What if Apple decided to sell 25% of their iPhones in America numbered that says made in America? You think people would pay $500 more for it? I would do it. Believe it or not, I actually think there are Americans that would pay the premium
Starting point is 00:42:41 to get a Made in America phone and they would brag about it and that would be a test so what if you go do a small number of tests you don't need to do a big one do 5% do 10% go do a small production of your phones made in America pass the cost down to some American buy
Starting point is 00:42:57 see if they'll buy it maybe they will maybe they won't but I think that's what Trump is trying to say I didn't tell you to take this stuff to India I told you to bring this stuff to America Tim Cook why are you moving to India I'm not going to feel it So that's what I see happening here. But, you know, there's still some feud going on with India in America. Adam, do you have thoughts on the story?
Starting point is 00:43:16 Well, as far as India goes, as far as Apple goes, as far as China goes, there's plenty of companies America that operate out of China. I think Apple's the number one company. McDonald's is expanding. Young brands, that's KFC. Starbucks operates there. It'll be interesting to see how many of these companies basically maybe stop trying to make their way in the Chinese market right there.
Starting point is 00:43:37 As far as India goes, as far as India versus Pakistan goes, I'm on team India. But at the same time, India is two-faced. They're friends with everybody. Oh, we'll be friends with Russia. We'll buy this. Yeah, we're friends with America. They're, you know, Modi is India first. He's trying to make India great again.
Starting point is 00:43:54 They're trying to basically compete with China. They're kind of like your friend that you don't trust. That's your friend, but they're kind of a fake friend. They're not a friend of me. India is an interesting, interesting country, but I'd rather be, seeing American operations operate in India, not China, that's for sure. Yeah, I get that. By the way, you just ran the poll, Rob.
Starting point is 00:44:14 A thousand people voted. Watch this. Would you pay 500 extra for a made-on-America phone? Look at what it is. By the way, that means yes. Yes. That means yes. People would.
Starting point is 00:44:25 That means I would pay for it. I do believe that's how you sell it. You literally, here's what Apple does. Think about the Apple box that's got American flag on it. Oh, man. Okay? And it's only made for America. You only got to do 5% of it just to test it. There is a market of people. You know what would happen? Let me tell you what would happen. There would be thousands and thousands of influencers that would buy the Made in America phone and post it all over social. You wouldn't need to spend a single penny of doing a commercial
Starting point is 00:44:58 on it. You would gain a loyalist customer coming to Apple that 2,000 votes. It's still at 5347. They're saying, yes, I would pay that additional 500 bucks. We're up to something here, guys. I would pay it. Because guess what? I'm saying, we're supporting American jobs, American workers, Vinnie. Would you rather do it that way by paying more for an iPhone?
Starting point is 00:45:22 Or would you rather wait for the government to tax you and eventually give somebody a nickel? What year did Nixon go to? 71, 72. So we're talking. How close was that to Mao's Greek leap forward in the cultural revolution? It was right around that time, right? Where are you going with this? No, I'm just wondering.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I mean, it's interesting how China and America at this point are competitors. Some might call them enemies. We conveniently forget that 25 to 40 to 50 million people, million people just died in China. How they die. He killed them. I mean, there was famines. There was communism. We forget about all the deaths in communism.
Starting point is 00:46:04 But, you know, we get cheap iPhones. So let's see what we can do with that. Okay, so Trump tells Fox News. He believes Xi won't act on Taiwan. Rob, if you got this clip here, on a Fox interview, news interview at a summit, Russian accident, Vladimir Putin, President Vladimir Putin, C's 5th, told him he would not move on Taiwan as long as Trump remained in office.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Trump argued that world leaders, including Xi, would not attempt. Is this the one, Rob? Yes, sir. Go for it. You know, you have a very similar thing with President Xi. China and Taiwan. But I don't believe there's any way it's going to happen as long as I'm here. We'll see. He told me, I will never do it as long as you're president. That's president. She told me that. And I said, well, I appreciate that. But he also said,
Starting point is 00:46:54 but I am very patient. And China is very patient. say, well, that's up to you, but it better not happen now. Okay, Tom, Adam, thoughts on this. Well, deterrence is a hell of a viable option. You mentioned earlier, you don't think China's looking at exactly what's happening going on with the EU leaders and Ukraine. If we let Russia invade Ukraine, what kind of signal would that deploy into China's mentality? Do you think that if we didn't do anything, if we didn't fund Ukraine, if we didn't basically help our allies, whether it's Israel, whether it's Ukraine, whether it's whatever allies around the
Starting point is 00:47:32 world, whether it's NATO. You don't think that's a telltale sign to China? All right, now's the time. So things are heating up under Biden. How much do we hear about Taiwan under Biden? We don't really hear much about Taiwan under Trump right now. Here's a perfect reason why, because Trump is basically like, not on my watch. Yeah. Again, these are more things that when you see, you think about and say this is why they're watching it. But guess what he just said? If what the president is saying is true, and he's not adding 20% of what he calls. Hyperbole, which he probably is. If he says, I mean, that's a campaign for the third term.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Somebody can listen to that and say that's a third term type of a campaign, which there's a lot of Americans that wouldn't mind having a third term with him. Constitution doesn't allow, but a lot of people wouldn't mind having them for third term. But if he says that, and it's true, and China's patient, that means eventually they're going to go there. you're one week leader away from that happening. One week leader away from that happening, assuming she passes away,
Starting point is 00:48:34 you don't think whoever takes over the leadership is going to be having the same level of ambition to go out there and take over Taiwan. You think that's ever going to go away, time with the ambitions and want them to go and attack Taiwan? No, there isn't, and I have something to add really quick. This is buying time for the semiconductor companies to be building their fabs in the United States.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Check this out. TSM is building a fab in Arizona that's equal to 25% of what they have in Taiwan. Intel is building in Arizona, Ohio, New Mexico, expanding their fabs. Samsung is expanding. These are all things that have started since 23, Pat, that are going to be done by 27. Texas Instrument, 30 billion fabrication, 30 billion factory in Sherman, Texas. Micron is in New York, but a large memory fab. And Bosch is in Roseville, California, which is outside.
Starting point is 00:49:26 of Sacramento, and there is an article that was in Satista, but I couldn't find the link to send it to Robin Time, but it talks about this, this map that they've got, Vinny, look at that map. They're building everywhere. So, if Trump serves the 28 and then hell freezes over and a dem is elected, it changes the Taiwan dynamic because we've got the fabs, in place here to build the chips so because it'll still hurt it'll still hurt but we're bringing chips back here to mitigate the risk of China and Taiwan in future administrations that they don't happen to have the same policies as Donald Trump and Pat your conversation was interesting in your conversation with Andrew Bistamante the CIA guy it's interesting when you go multiple
Starting point is 00:50:20 layers deep to figure out what happens if you don't make certain moves so for instance who is the access of evil, the accents of resistance that they talk about right now? Well, there's like five countries. It's China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, and maybe you want to throw Venezuela in there. I mean, they're a little bit different. But all those countries are certainly trading together. They're operating together, and then it's obviously the rest of the world, the democratic world. When one thing happens, so for instance, Russia isn't broiled in a conflict of war with Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:50:51 When Iran is trying to do their thing and they go, hey, Russia, we need some drones, we need some warheads. They go, sorry, bro, we're preoccupied. Iran goes, and then what happens to Iran, they fall. And then all of a sudden Syria, who was backed by Iran, when they're getting taken over by terrorists, they go, hey, Russia, Iran, can we have your back? Sorry, we're at war with Israel right now. So all these things have ramifications.
Starting point is 00:51:12 It's a domino effect. So it's one, you know, people are like, why are we funding Ukraine? What are we fund of Ukraine? It's more than just funding Ukraine because there's multiple layers deep because Ukraine is embroiled with Russia. Now China has to basically step in. They don't want to do that because they don't want to do that. because they don't want to help invade Taiwan
Starting point is 00:51:28 without knowing that all these multiple layers basically happen because we're doing one thing. You know what's been really quiet? Like North Korea, have you even heard of anything from Kim Jong-un? I haven't heard any. He hasn't had electricity for a lot. I don't have power.
Starting point is 00:51:42 That's what it's been. I haven't heard a peep from that one guy. They're trying to get their power back on. Oh, wow. I mean sarcastic. He has been no testing nukes, no, he's quiet. And there was some news that health-wise, he wasn't doing the best, but that news
Starting point is 00:51:57 comes along a lot. I mean, can we say it? He looks like a healthy guy. His barber is like the guy that cuts your hair. He definitely doesn't look overweight. He's good. Look at, but he has a feed. Look how, I mean, the bottom one is a little weird, but he has some clean faith.
Starting point is 00:52:10 No, that's my favorite, though. Click on that one, Rob. What do you mean that? That's the best. Well, page, yeah, he's at a long day here. No, no, no, you go to the nightclub. That's the night club. No, no, no. It's called the Moses. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Can you imagine his barber, though, Pat, him and, uh, like him and Andrew Shultz's He's got that same barber. Oh, my God. Oh, God. Is that wrong? I'm not going to my. Do you know the lies that he tells his people?
Starting point is 00:52:34 I mean, he's like I, I played golf. I shot an 18. I did a whole one. Yeah, that's right. His dad did. His dad published the article. Every single time. Let's go to the next story.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Respect to you. Perfect score of 18. Let's go to the next. He's the best looking guy in North Korea. I want to go to the next story. The next story I want to go to is the story with Trump of. pushing to eliminate mail-in ballots and voting machines, okay? Rob, if we can go to this one here.
Starting point is 00:53:00 And this is obviously not popular for a lot of people. He announces on truth social that he will lead a movement to eliminate mail-in-balance and voting machines stating, Rob, if you have the tweet, I am going to lead a movement to get rid of mail-in ballots, seriously controversial voting machines. If he can zoom in a little bit, which costs 10 times more than accurate and sophisticated watermark. By the way, can you tell Matteo to just have one of my glasses here? We're there, guys. I'm 46, and I need glasses.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Oh, wow. Ten times a voting on a sophisticated paper, which is faster and leaves no doubt. At the end of the evening, as to who won and who lost the election, we are now the only country in the world that uses mail-in voting. All others gave it up because of massive voter fraud encounter. We will begin this effort, which will be strongly opposed by Democrats because they cheat at levels never seen before. By sending an executive order to help earn honesty to the 20-26 midterm elections, remember the states are merely an agent for the federal government and counting. tabulating the votes. They must do what the federal government as represented by the President of the United States tells them for the good
Starting point is 00:54:01 of the country to do with their horrible radical left policies like open borders, men playing and women, sports, transgender, and woke for everyone. And so much more, Democrats are virtually unelectable without using the completely disproven mail-in scam. Elections can never be honest with mail-in ballots voting, and everybody in particular, the Democrats know this. I and the Republican Party will fight like hell to bring honesty and integrity back to our elections. the mail-in-ballot's hoax, using voting machines that are complete and total disaster must end.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Now remember, without fair and honest elections and strong and powerful borders, you don't have a semblance of a country. Thank you for your attention to this matter, Donald J. Trump. Tom, your thoughts on this story. Well, you know what? He's right. And there's been people have been talking about it. In the back rooms of discussions of Bitcoin, there's also discussions of blockchain. And blockchain technology would make one person, one vote, you've got to be alive, all those things set up, and guess what?
Starting point is 00:54:58 It would also increase turnout. So, all of the, Bobby, there's a guy in Michigan that was just caught. I have a move stuff in balance. I have the story, yeah, just caught. And it keeps going on. So although the elections were 99.8 percent, you know, correct? No, they weren't. They're not.
Starting point is 00:55:14 The media's covering that up. It's been covering it up. We've seen it. We've seen pictures. Now we've got councilmen coming in there, stuff in the ballot box. Trump is right. The current system is broken. And the only people that don't want to fix it is the people that benefit from it being broken. That's it. The Democrats. Correct. And so he's what he's saying is correct. But what I'm pointing out to people is if you also, and Peter Thiel talks about it in the big, oh no, not Palantir, not Thiel, not those guys. No, no, no, no, no. Block chain technology across the board. If you used it for our elections, you would. basically one person, one vote. That's it. And turnout would go up. And Trump is right. You get rid of this. You get rid of, remember, when you ever announced to get rid of something, the louder
Starting point is 00:56:01 they scream, the more you're right. Exactly. And listen, I get, what was the, what was the settlement with Dominion? Oh, there was the big one, and then there was the one. It was just like $9,000 million. And at the end of the day, any, who was the guy that was on the show, Rob, that said any computer can be hacked. Any computer. Harry Hurstie. Harry Hurstie. Okay. So in that sense, I mean, you're right. COVID's done. There's no excuse for everybody to just sit home and do it. Get your ass up. Go stand in line and vote. That's the American way. And that's how we do. I know with instances of people that are abroad or whatever, that's a different case. But for the majority of it, it's always going to be the Democrats. It's always going to be places like California that have made it illegal to even ask for identification to vote.
Starting point is 00:56:48 what is that saying? What is that saying to you? You don't need an ID. Don't even ask for it. Okay? Bring your, just like we did. And California will give driver's licenses to illegal aliens. Oh, yeah, we're going to get it.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Like the nice man that made you turn in a truck. Yeah, it's, I love it. I absolutely love that he's doing this. And guess what? Play fair. Level the playing field and we'll see going. They're panicking, Tom. They are panicking because they know what this freaking momentum that Trump is doing,
Starting point is 00:57:15 it's a rap. Republicans are going to be in there for a while, bro, unless something crazy happens. Yeah, I think we need a doge for our voting systems in America right now. It's crazy that we can do anything on our phone right now. I can open up my iPhone right here and get access to the entire world. I can't vote on my phone. What's going on here?
Starting point is 00:57:30 So if we learned anything from Doge, you know, dealing with waste, fraud, and abuse, how much, how many terms did we learn during COVID? Absentee ballots, mail-in ballots, ballot fraud, ballot stuffing, ballot harvesting, dead people voting, voter IDs, what states you have to have IDs, what states you don't. I fully agree with Trump about bringing back honesty and integrity to our voting systems right now. We saw what happened with Dominion and that lawsuit and Tucker Carlson and his not so nice words about Trump. But at the same time, let me give credit to America. Do you know what percentage of the world has free and fair elections?
Starting point is 00:58:16 40% of the world. 40% of the world has democratic, fair, and free elections. Yes, there's problems, waste, fraud, and abuse. United States, Canada, the EU, Japan, South Korea, certain countries, democratic elected countries, 40%. Another 40% of the world has what is called flawed elections, or fraud elections. Turkey, Mexico, India. You don't even know what's going on over there.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Who won, who didn't win? But then there's 10 to 15% of the world where it's just complete. sham fraudulent elections or there's no elections whatsoever russia iran venezuela sham elections and then you have countries like saudi or monarchies uh ea u and all that that it's just there's zero elections right there so as much as our election system does need to be held accountable for the for the uh infractions that definitely happened during voting let's not forget living in america you still have a voice much like unlike other country yeah but we got to we got to fix it you know that argument that says, oh, it's so bad all these other things here, that's kind of like
Starting point is 00:59:17 the mainstream media. Oh, it could be so worse. It could be like this. Could be like they just declare the results in North Korea. He wins again. No, I want to fix the one we got. And if we're the greatest country in the world, we got the technology to do it, let's fix what we got. Hey, Tom, I agree with you. I feel like that we just went through COVID. During COVID, we found out all the different ways that elections can be flawed and ballots can be stolen and stuffed in this country. It's like the, it's like the Center of Disease Control saying, let me tell you about the nine new cancers we just found. But by the way, everybody's healthy. And that's baloney. That's got a way I feel about it. During COVID, we found out all these ways. Ballot Harvesting. What's that? I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I agree with you, Tom. If we've identified all these ways, why don't we go fix it? So here's the part. And that's what he's trying to do. I think that's what he's trying to do. Of course. I'm with him. But the part with this, that's super scary. If he does pull this off, do you know what the America could finally see I don't know if you notice there was a story that came out from maybe it's MSNBC
Starting point is 01:00:19 I think it's MSNBC MS now forgive me Mara Sabatrucha this came out from Mara Sabatrucha now it stands for more so when it came out what they talked about is Rob if you can pull up the story it was a picture of AOC
Starting point is 01:00:34 Newsom the new way of attacking just go to their YouTube channel if you could Go to their YouTube channel, MSNBC. You'll see this. They're trying to say that everybody is going to the way that Trump campaigned. Go to videos, if you could, Rob. Just go to videos and go down.
Starting point is 01:00:51 You'll see the tie right there all the way to the right. Don't play it. Just go to the zoom in a little bit. Zoom in a little bit. Look at what it says. Democrats are getting a maga-like makeover to take on Trump. This is an Axios clip, right? And you're seeing Newsom attacking.
Starting point is 01:01:05 You're seeing Mamdani attacking. You're seeing AOC, attacking. They're planning on 2028, right? Obviously, Mamdani is not going to be a part of that. AOC could be a part of 2028, so could Newsome. But the reality of it is, if Trump is able to do this with mail-in ballots, and Americans are witnessing how embarrassing the Democratic Party is, this is either going to be a dominant next decade of the Republican Party
Starting point is 01:01:33 or the best opportunity ever for third party, ever for third party. ever for third party that we've had. It's truly one of those two things. It's not like they're sitting around saying things that makes no sense. If you go to, go to Newsom's Twitter account if you could. This is Newsom's Twitter account. You know, he recently, he's saying this, is this you? I don't know if you guys see this.
Starting point is 01:02:00 So go to go to his account, his personal one, Rob. And he says, this you? Yeah, this you. Okay, this is how long ago? this is how long ago if you can go to it that was uh this morning 155 a m okay so 155 a m he tweets this matter of fact i'm about to tweet something right back at him right now as we speak and i'm going to say this you rob can you type in newsome favorable unfavorable ratings you can you can tweet it anywhere on you know x or chat gbt or any of that let's look at the
Starting point is 01:02:31 numbers as of yesterday okay just go as of yesterday if you can type that somewhere. Okay. Watch this. What everybody is telling us. Okay. According to one from yesterday, that's June 10. I went from yesterday, Rob. Just go to Google. Just go to Google. Yeah. It's, I think it's LaSourcePath as leading report by UGov. Okay. If you look at this, I have it right here. If you can't find it, Rob, I'm just going to air drop it to you. So you have it. And you'll see what it says. His approval rating right now is in shambles. Yep. Okay. Numbers just came that shows Newsom has a 27% favorability rating based on 30 polls. Let me say that one more time, folks.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Yes. 27% favorability rating on how many polls? 27, 30 polls. Great. That's unfavorable. Great. Horrible. That is so underwater.
Starting point is 01:03:31 No, no. Adam. Great. Tom, you guys followed this stuff closely. Tom, can you tell me how horrible this is. is. This is bad, as in very bad. And this is why I keep trying to point out to people, I believe Pritzker is the choice of the DNC. He may not have the power on a national stage, but I think he's the choice of the DNC, the establishment deep down underneath because of this. This is like
Starting point is 01:03:55 legendary. Now, you'll find other politicians at times when, you know, that they may see this, but for right now, this is bad. And I believe it's because the average voter sees behind and sees all the things going on in California and how can they not now you ask yourself a question pat why are they so unfavorable well guess what you go all you have to do is go look at them you can go look at the fires you can go look at what's going on you look at the homeless you can look at the unemployment you look at the drugs in the street crime everything happening rational people see this and go that guy's not a very good leader and they don't have to live in california and you end up 27 percent yeah so where i'm going with this with the polls and
Starting point is 01:04:31 i'm sorry i'm going to go no no go go the point i'm trying to make is if he does this mail-in ballot and is gone. Guys, this could be like the biggest expose of the Democratic Party ever that most of Americans didn't agree with you on your policies. You just had a massive monopoly and control in so many different states.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Rob, how many states in America do I not need an ID to vote in? Remember when we go through this number? Oh, blue ones. How many didn't need to have a state? There was dozens of states. Dozens of states that I don't even need to show an ID. What do you mean I don't need to show
Starting point is 01:05:06 ID. Some states it wasn't even a photo ID. I think it's only 16 states that you actually require a, what do you mean? I can't provide a voting. Of course you can provide it. Provider in the past before. Chad, UPT is now saying he can't provide it. Yeah, go to another one and ask him. I think it's only 16 states you don't. So my point here with this is Vinnie, if this happens and they get demolished and he goes back to common sense, what the hell is the Democratic Party going to be doing next? That's a great. I have no. Can I. Can I? There it is. There it is. Back up, back up, back up. Back up. Back up. Back up. The gray, Pat, is no ID required. Weird. Weird. What is the, what is the orange? Scroll-ups, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Orange is non-photo ID. Which one is photos required? The purple. Okay, so let's count how many blue it is. 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 19, 20, around 23 of 15, 15, 15, 15, 14, more importantly, New York, Illinois, and California, which is a mass stock of... 11-10, 11-1-1-4-5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. Over 13 states, you don't even need an ID to go vote.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Are you kidding me? In what country? A third world country? No, in the greatest country in the world. So if he pushes this and this leads to, Rob, just save this one because we're always going to come back to this. Rob, put it in your safe stuff. If he goes to the common sense route, it's just going to be a bad next couple decades for Democrats. And I hope so because at the end of the day, guys, we have to understand like people like Gavin.
Starting point is 01:06:41 And I know a lot of people are like, whoa, he has a family. They look, help. Okay, family aside, he is the enemy. That type of attitude, that type of leadership, that type of the transgender stuff in the schools. The way that he's, by the way, his resume, Gavin Newsom's resume, is California. Look no further Americans. And people are like, yeah, but he knows how to speak and he's tall. And he's like, I don't give a damn about any of that crap.
Starting point is 01:07:04 And the biggest problem that he has, Tom, is him and AOC and they need to fight MAGA. what are you talking about or fight Donald Trump? You're not going up against Donald Trump 2006, 2008, it's not about Trump. It's about you. What is your message? And I'm telling you right now, Tom, they don't have anything
Starting point is 01:07:23 Adam. It's zero. And you know who's going to be the runners? The Rubio's, the J.D. Vance. And then all of a sudden you're going to be fighting this way, Orange Man, Bad, Hitler, and then you turn, and it's J.D. Vance. And it's Marco Rubio. Such a good point, who are going to tear your ass apart because those guys are locked
Starting point is 01:07:39 in and they're waiting for you. They're in the bushes like a lion. They're just sitting there waiting while he's up there. And it's like, give me, name me one thing, Adam. And I know we can't. Name one thing that he's doing positive, Tommy. Give me, give me one thing where you go, I'm proud to be in California. Yeah, give me a freaking break.
Starting point is 01:07:55 And you nailed it, Pat. Once that happens, it's a rat. Can I tell you how bad Newsom's approval ratings are, how much they're underwater? And Tom destroyed him. And Tom was actually even being too nice to him. On Trump's worst days, lowest approval ratings, ever. Charlottesville, find people of both sides that was misconstrued.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Russia, Russia, Russia, all the impeachment stuff. COVID, George Floyd. Gavin Newsom's approval ratings are still worse than Trump's worst days. That's how much Gavin Newsom is underwater with his approval ratings. So you mean the podcast didn't help?
Starting point is 01:08:29 I don't even know if he's doing the podcast anymore. You know, he did it like two or three times, and that was it because people are tired of it. And the way that he, and again, we give credit where credit is due, The BSing and the professional, lying, like, character politician that he is and Trump and it's Trump and it's doing this and he's always, it's not work. Bro, none of these people, and I don't care what they're doing the shift, change your title to MS now when people are to. By the way, if you take a bag of poop and you just put it in another bag of poop and just label it different, it's still a bag of poop. And that's what they are.
Starting point is 01:09:04 That whole thing party, by the Democratic Party is finished. It's done. Let's not forget, we covered this a couple weeks ago. This is the lowest, the Democratic Party has been in our lifetime. And, wow. I hope they improve because we need two parties that actually are doing something for the American people. I do agree with that. Other than just complaining about how bad.
Starting point is 01:09:26 I do agree with that. They need to get their craft together. But unless they do major shifts and change the gender ideology or the IDs or the open border. Because at the end of the day, Adam, what scares the hell out of me is when I call him the enemy and, you know, choose your enemies wisely, I'm being dead serious. Gavin Newsom is the enemy, because the moment he gets in, the border's going to be open. Who's to stop him? The border's going to be open.
Starting point is 01:09:48 You think he's going to have conversations with Putin and all these people? Hell no. They want war. When she comes, he'll clean up the streets. Oh, yeah, exactly. And don't forget what Pat always brings up. They're taking the 20% on the 80% issues. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:00 80, 20 issues. I agree. They reap what they sow. And by the way, what was, we were complimentary when Newsom was trying to go to the center. If you remember this. Everybody here was complimentary. But guess what happened? He went back.
Starting point is 01:10:14 He can't help himself. Well, no, he can't help himself. He's in California. He's owned. And it's not even that. He's owned by them. So he still campaigns as if he's running for California instead of running for the States.
Starting point is 01:10:24 And it's actually great because the country. It's actually great because the world, everybody is seeing what the guy's all about. Fantastic. But numbers don't lie. Just like when he likes to go after Trump, unfavorable ratings as bad as it is today, it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad when you're looking at those numbers. But let's continue.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Let's continue with a couple of the stories that we got going on here. I want to go to the story of Joy Reed and Elvis Presley. This one just really is, I don't understand it. I don't understand, you know, to go after something like this. It's almost like she wakes up in the morning saying, how can I be viral for the dumbest idea ever and thinking, guess what? I'm relevant. They're talking about me and not realizing this.
Starting point is 01:11:08 is definitely not the way of doing it, but maybe she thinks she is. So Joy Reid launches finger jabbing rant against Elvis and says nickname Kim the King was racist. I don't even want to go through this. Rob, do you want to just play this clip and let the audience see it? Go for it. They can't fix the history they did. Their ancestors made this country into a slave, a slave hell. But they can clean it up now because they got the Smithsonian. They can get rid of all the slavery stuff. They got Prager U that can lie about the history to the children. They can't originally invent anything more than they ever were able to invent good music. We black folk gave y'all country music, hip-hop, R&B, jazz, rock and roll. They couldn't even invent that, but they
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Starting point is 01:12:26 or to match with a TD small business banking account manager. Oh, her? Look at her hat Just look at her hat The fact that her true colors Remember she was on MS now I'm sorry it was MSNBC It's going to change soon
Starting point is 01:12:45 The FDT hat It's like that's your true colors That's a political activist talking her crap And like I don't understand Like how you nailed it How do you wake up in the morning And that's what you're talking about That's what it's talking about
Starting point is 01:13:00 Mind you it's 2025 And people like Joy Reid Pat that's all they want to keep bringing up is racism and slavery and guys we're not trying to erase history it's history it happened okay what year was it Adam what was the height of what
Starting point is 01:13:16 of slavery I mean the Civil War was 1861 60s and then guess what like think about it when slavery was abolished when yeah when Abraham Lincoln and the North won 1865 it happened so when you hear it happened
Starting point is 01:13:31 but when you hear people like this it's almost as if when you hear white supremacy and white this and racism and slavery it's as if it was yesterday okay it's been done for a long time we're nowhere near where the hell we used to be okay I hate that attitude it's divisive it makes people want to hate it just keeps reminding you of of of shit that happened in the past I'm not saying forget it but can we move on did you guys see the Jillian Michaels clip on CNN how's our girl doing when she said 2% oh they lost their You've seen this?
Starting point is 01:14:01 Rob, can you go to this clip with Gillian Michaels? Gillian Michaels, again, same thing. She's on there. They're talking about what percentage of Americans own slaves. Watch this. And they've been trying to target her since that day till today. Go ahead, Rob. So we're now literally reviewing parts of American history and parts of American culture
Starting point is 01:14:21 to make sure it comports with dear leader and what the MAGA organization wants. Can we address some of those things that are in there? Because have you looked at some of the things that are being reviewed? Yeah, slavery was about. thing that was to talk about, like, he's not whitewashing slavery. So he's not. He's not. No, he's not. And you cannot tie imperialism and racism and slavery to just one race, which is pretty much what every single exhibit does. Well, let's talk about the fact that when you can't tie slavery, let's talk about the fact. Slavery in America was
Starting point is 01:14:51 Do you realize that only less than 2% of white Americans owned slaves? But it was a system of white supremacy. Do you realize that slavery is thousands of the years old? Do you know who is the first race I didn't realize this is controversial? I'm sorry, Jillis. I'm very surprised that you're trying to litigate. You can't stand that. I'm really surprised. Jillian, I'm surprised that you're trying to litigate who was the beneficiary of slavery and who was not.
Starting point is 01:15:16 What I'm trying to tell you is that... In the context of American history, in the context of American history, what are you saying is incorrect by saying that it was white people oppressing black people? Every single thing is like, oh, no, no, no, this is all because white people. bad and that's just not the truth like for example every single exhibit i have a list of every single one like people migrated from cuba because white people bad not because of past yes no it's in there that's one saying you don't actually know what's in there do you know that when you walk in the front door what exactly the first thing you have a gay flag you have a lot of stuff yeah i do because i don't because here's the thing are you talking about okay i'll give you an example
Starting point is 01:15:57 yeah there's one called change your game right this this has been an installation there is gender testing fair in sports does that and then it goes on to talk about how it's complex to do gender testing in sports it's not complex it's basic science that's untrue it's xx chromosome xy chromosome that's sports is it fair to have biological men competing against biological women in sports no but why is this in the smithsonian So it's, look, it's, it's been completely captured. First of all, and it's totally part, first of all, and if you notice, I'm kind of the part I'm surprised with is when she's going through it.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Scott Jennings is sitting there hasn't. By the way, I don't know if you know or not. Scott's sitting right across from him. He's quiet. He hasn't said a single thing. He's letting her go. He's letting her go. Can you keep going, Rob, to see if he says anything at all,
Starting point is 01:16:45 or he's letting go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, keep going, keep going, keep going. I'm surprised Scott didn't say anything because normally in a situation like this, he would have jumped in and maybe he's waiting for them to come to her and he's just kind of giving her the floor. But the reality of it is when they broke down the numbers and you keep calling, she opened up the Pandora's box. I love it.
Starting point is 01:17:06 She opened up the Pandora's and they're losing their absolute mind when she opened us up. Wait, don't say that only 2% of whites on slaves. All whites were slaves back in it. That's what they want people to believe. But no, it's not. Tom, you look like you want to say something. Yeah, as a matter of fact, this is why people will start to freak out when you bring numbers
Starting point is 01:17:28 scream to this. I'm so glad she's doing it. To it. Because it's the step they don't want to talk about. And you know what that step is? What's that? It's a boat trip back to Northern Africa when the tribes enslaved each other and they sold their prisoners for profit. Slavery started with blacks enslaving and imprisoning blacks tribe by tribe in northern Africa and selling them to people that then traded them elsewhere. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't mean we didn't need A. Blinken, we didn't need 1864, 1865 in legislation. We needed that.
Starting point is 01:18:09 That doesn't mean we didn't need civil rights in 1968. We needed that. But it also means no one wants to talk about, the scope of the problem because it's their blankie. Of course. And they can use that to keep doing things and to keep pushing things and to keep punishing and going back in retribution because their feeling is, it says reparations and retribution is forever. I want that forever. And I want to use it forever.
Starting point is 01:18:37 And I want to beat you with it forever. And I want to get stuff forever. We're not going to let it die. It should never die in the pages of history. incorrect or edited or change ever but we need to have the full story there was a there is a very famous video that was a uh a british teacher going after uh in uh i think it was bbc absolutely going after newscast and saying you know slavery started in northern africa when tribes and slave tribes after wars and they deliberately didn't kill their prisoners so they could sell them for a
Starting point is 01:19:13 profit of course this is their history not our history it's what they wrote yeah and It's what there was there. And so it's like, no, no, no, you're not changing history. No, we're not. That's the record of what was there. They kept records of it. They were proud of it because they conquered other people. They were proud of conquering.
Starting point is 01:19:27 And then they sold them to, you know, to explorers and traders. Yeah. And so nobody wants to talk about that. Nobody. They want to take, remember, take a small percent, give them victimhood, make them a voting block, and then make them see bigger than everything else. That's trans. That's all the things you see.
Starting point is 01:19:45 That's the Democrat playbook. We should never, ever walk away from the horrors of slavery or the need for it to be changed or the brave people or the fact that it was the Southern Republicans that had to get it through because the Southern Democrats wouldn't work for it. That history has been changed, ladies and gentlemen. We should never forget what happened and how it changed for the good, but to go back the way Abby and those are trying to do it now and getting in Gillian's face when Gillian is bringing receipts. And, Tom, do you want me to do this? I'm going to come to you.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Meanwhile, Rob, can you go up on chat, GBT, and type in the following question, okay? I'm going to text it to you if you can just literally type this in exact question, and I'm going to give you follow up on it. It says, Jillian Michaels recently talked about only 2% of whites were slave owners. Can you show where most of the white slave owners were, what percentage was part of the South versus the North? If you can just take that copy, put it in there, and we'll go through it. Go ahead. And Tom, I love that you're saying that.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Nobody is saying that. I'm saying they're acting as if we're going to forget. Nobody forgets it was a horrible part of our history, but it is our history. But it drives me crazy as people like that with the attitude that America was built on slavery, okay? The truth of the matter is America took a very small percentage when it came down to it, okay? Out of the 12 million Africans that were shipped across the Atlantic, guess how many came to the United States? Less than 400,000. Okay, you know where the majority went to?
Starting point is 01:21:11 4 to 5 million went to the Brazil and the Caribbean. Islands, okay? Correct. So to act like, you talk about numbers, scream, how much more screaming? And again, horrible, horror history part, but that victim, that whole, like, like it's happening, still happening, that white supremacy, that slavery, it's like, move on. My favorite, my favorite interview, Pat, was with Don Lamon, and he was with Morgan Freeman. And he goes, so you mean to tell me that slave? He goes, how do you fix it? He goes, stop talking about it. He goes, you're a black man, I'm a black man. Look at us right now. Look at where we're. where are. He goes, who's holding you back? He goes, you find that thing that you want and you go get it. That's that non-victimhood mentality. Rob, you have that one little clip? Yes. It's like, it was such a beautiful moment. He's like, what excuse. Yeah, this is it. Can you play it? He's a part in wealth distribution or either a mindset that you can't. Today? Yeah. No. You don't. No. I don't. I don't. Hey, you and I, we're proof. Why would race have anything to do with it? Put your mind to what you want to do and go for that.
Starting point is 01:22:11 It's kind of like religion to me. It's a good excuse for not getting there. You know, I said it's probably getting me in trouble, but I said to some of my colleagues recently said, I know that it's an issue. But I've been, it seems like every single day on television, I'm talking about race, and it's because of the news cycle, it's in the news, but sometimes I get so tired of talking about it.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Oh, no, he doesn't. I want to just go, this is over, can we move over? And if you talk about it, it exists. Right. It's not like it exists And we didn't refuse to talk about it So let's come back to this You can pause that, Rob. Can you do me
Starting point is 01:22:46 Go to that, Chad, GBT, what the question answer? Okay, so here we go. Good question. Julie Micros collect that only small minor Americans own slaves about 1.5 to 2% of population in 1860 And then if you go a little bit lower, the U.S. population 31, enslaved people 4 million, white slaveholders 385, 8 million families
Starting point is 01:23:02 that's 1.5 to 2% overall. Okay, so that part's accurate. Now let's continue. South versus North, almost all slave owners, holders were concentrated in the South, about 25 to 33% of white families in the South own slaves. This varied by state, Mississippi, South Carolina, Georgia. Ownership was highly unequal. Northern states by 1804, all northern states had enacted gradual emancipational laws by 1804.
Starting point is 01:23:25 By 1860, slavery was virtually extinct in the North, not the South. Okay, so now here's the next question I want you to ask. I want you to ask, were most of the South Democrats? That's all I want you to ask. were most of the South Democrats, okay? We're most, yes. This is Chad GBT. This isn't GROC, owned by X.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Weird. Elon, this is Chad GBT. Let me read it to you. Go ahead. Yes, the South in the 1800s was overwhelmingly Democrat. Southern politics before and during Civil War, the Democratic Party was dominant across the side.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Democrats on the South were the party of slavery and state rights. They defended the institution of slavery as essential to their agriculture, By contrast, the Republican Party founded in 1854 was based in the north and opposed the expansion of slavery into new territories. The opposition has triggered southern succession after Lincoln, a Republican was elected in 1860 in the 1860 election. Abraham Lincoln got almost no votes in the South. Southern states mostly voted for Southern Democrats, John C. Breckenridge or constitutional unionist John Bell.
Starting point is 01:24:34 After the Civil War during the Reconstruction, Republicans briefly gained. influence in the South, thanks to the freedom of Norton, carpetbaggers. But this ended by the 1870s. The South then became the solid South, voting almost exclusively Democrat for the next 80 years. The Democratic Party in the South was deeply tied to segregation and Jim Crowe law. So, I mean, this is the part where Gillian kind of goes in, not on Fox, on CNN, boom, drops a bomb. And then what happens? By the way, you want to talk about the amount of hit pieces she's going to get? just the beginning. She's going to get so many more hit pieces of people coming after her trying to defame her, say whatever they want to say about her. But good for her for doing that
Starting point is 01:25:17 and then showing the receipts afterwards. Because even a Chad GBT that some would say is more left-leaning defended the argument of what Gillian presented, Adam. Yeah, I used to be obsessed with the Civil War. If you looked at, when I was a kid, I saw a movie called Glory. And if you've never seen the movie Glory, oh my God, you talked about Morgan Freeman. He was actually in that movie. Denzel Washington, Matthew Broderick, Kerry Ellis. What a freaking movie. I watched this movie. I think I was like nine or ten years old. I was like, what is this all about in America? Yeah. Right? And it was just so shocking and so crazy and just such an emotional roller coaster. And you're like, this happened here in America? Oh my, I'm a kid. And it was so interesting.
Starting point is 01:26:02 If you came into my bedroom when I was a kid, I had Pamela Anderson posters, a life size cut out of Isaiah Thomas basketball. and the glory poster talking about the North versus South Civil War. Very weird sort of dichotomy going on there. But here's what I understood about the Civil War. You know, racism, America, what's going on here? Jillian Michaels, great point about only 2% of Americans or even the Confederacy owned slaves. Flip it. Do you know how many union soldiers fought to free the slaves?
Starting point is 01:26:34 Two million soldiers. Do you know how many union soldiers died? white people died to free the African American slaves 400 to 500,000 deaths to free the slaves. So Joy Reid, spare the racist drama because it was white people that died to free black people from crappy white people that wanted to run and operate their business in the South. So it's so easy to be like, slavery, racist. You know, you know the least, the word that has the least meaning to it today's is racism. Yeah, it's true. You're racist, you're racist.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Okay, now what? I'm racist. Okay, now what? Can you show the poll? Can you show the last three polls? Can you show all three polls or no when you run on the podcast? Or does it just show the recent one? It'll just show the recent one.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Okay, so go to the recent one. Think about how our audiences today. Before you pull it up, Rob, I hope they don't see. Don't look, guys. Don't look. Okay. Tom, don't look, Tom. So the poll is, is, is just, you.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Joy Reid right that whites calling Elvis King is racist. What percentage of our audience you think said yes? 35. Of our audience? No, our audience, 10% at the most. I swear to God it, not. Okay. Tom, what do you think it is?
Starting point is 01:27:51 You didn't put it up. I think it would be like 17, 20%. 10% said. And we would look at that and say, oh, my God. So Adam's right again, Tom. 10% said that he is racist, right? With the poem. By the way, 5,000 people voted for this.
Starting point is 01:28:04 By the way, he didn't call him. self the king. People called him the king. Oh, by the way, James Brown is the godfather and soul. Oh, now we're racist because he's a godfather. But I want to do this, guys. Guys, if there's a clip that I'll be with my kids, Vinny, I've showed it to you as well. If I've showed, Rob, do you have this clip or not with Elvis? If there's a clip, I'll send you the last performance, specifically the one I like. Yeah, this one right here. So this is a couple months before he dies. This is the first time ever he performs Unchained Melody publicly. The world hasn't seen this song. It's coming out in two weeks. He, you can tell he's either inebriated, he's either on drugs.
Starting point is 01:28:40 He is not doing well until he opens his mouth. And you realize the magic of this guy, no matter how drunk he was, no matter what was in his body, he still, just watch this. And you tell me if you would call this guy King or not. Go ahead, Rob. This is a song that I just recorded. It's an old song called Unchain Melody. I had to play the piano, so it'll take you a second. I don't know all the chorus. Breathing heavy. If you hear me, I'll give my fingers caught in the keys back here.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Not doing what. Look how big he was. Wow. Son. Son. Son, you're going to make it your mind, son. You know, hold the microphone, put a scarf on, hold up the ring. Show me the right keys.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Got it? Breathing heavy. Yeah. Well, watch. There's a reason why you call him king. And never performed internationally because of his manager. Yeah, that's right. I just recorded in it, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:37 That's the way he talks. Is it out? Two weeks. Two weeks to be out. This song's been in so many movies. Ghosts, brace for impact. Sit down. You'll see why.
Starting point is 01:29:50 It's going to make you sit down. I'm telling you, you're going to have the chills all of your body. I'm going to stay quiet and just listen. How you like it so far? How you like it so far? Listen. Listen. Listen.
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Starting point is 01:32:01 I love My darling I'll hunger for you Oh Glory You can pause right there right Listen I can listen to this The ending though
Starting point is 01:32:21 When he goes He goes all in Yeah I mean listen There's a reason Why they call this guy The King He was asked about his political views
Starting point is 01:32:29 Look what he said This is what he had to say when they ask them about his political views. Go ahead, Rob. Mr. Presley, what is your opinion of war protesters? And would you today refuse to be drafted? I just seem to keep my own personal views about that to myself. I'm just an entertainer, and I really not say it.
Starting point is 01:32:47 You think other entertainers should also keep their views to themselves? No. That's their business. Remember, he joined the military. He served in the U.S. arms. When his career was taken off, he was like, I'm going to go serve. America. Yeah, he did. Let me tell you. He loved America. And guess what? If they called him the king and a market wanted to call him a king, good for him. And the man want to be called
Starting point is 01:33:09 king. Want to be called King? We're going to call Clay. So anyways, by the way, just how you're saying that Elvis loved America, I don't think this is a shocking statement. I actually don't think that Joy Reed loves America. I think she actually hates America. She can go back to wherever. Her family came from. I don't think you're wrong. But you know what she is doing? She's tried to job hug and she lost her job. Oh, yeah. So workers are job hugging or clinging to their positions for dear life. This is according to New York Post.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Folks, let's read this story. Okay. So the quits are among U.S. workers dropped to 2% in June. 3.14 million people quitting compared to 4.5 million in November of 2021, reflecting a shift from the great resignation to job hugging. As consultants at Corn Ferry Road, employees are holding on to job. jobs for Dear Life, Ultra Ulrich, Laura Ulrich, a director for economic research at Indeed, there is the stagnation in the labor market where the hires, quits, and layoffs, rates are low.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Job growth has slowed with the hiring rates at its lowest in over a decade, excluding early pandemic days, according to Bureau Labor Statistics. Matt Bowen and executive search consultant at Corn Ferry said there's quite a bit of uncertainty in the world, economic, and political, global. and I think uncertainty causes people for to naturally remain in a holding pattern comparing workers to skittish investors, a conference board, poll found 34% of CEOs
Starting point is 01:34:38 plan to shrink their workforce in the next 12 months versus 27% planning to hire the first such imbalance since 2020, Tom. Thoughts on the story? You know what I, the word that comes to mind, appreciation. So now we're not printing money.
Starting point is 01:34:54 We're not just giving you stimulus checks and there were some bad things that happened there and some people needed those checks. I get it. But you know what we have now? We have people looking around and they can't just on a whim flip off their employer and go across the street at lunch and say, and I want 20% more
Starting point is 01:35:14 and I want to bring my dog to work and never mind, my work will be my living room. I want to bring my dog to work. I'm going to work from home. And all of this went over where, you know, you know, there was a certain arrogance in the American workforce about it and now people are appreciating what they got and now maybe AI taking jobs maybe not and maybe it's just we're coming to an adjustment in the economy or maybe not or maybe people are just and take a look at the stock market there's profits so evidently CEOs are making good decisions because people's
Starting point is 01:35:45 retirement funds are doing well and they're saying well main streets different tom yeah i think what we have here is people are realizing that it's not not easy or automatic. Great people can go. Vinnie, think about it. Who do you know that's really great at their job that couldn't go find another job right now? That's really great.
Starting point is 01:36:06 That can't? Nobody. Whoever is kicking butt at their job anywhere can go get a job somewhere. They never struggle with finding a job if you create out what you do. That's exactly right. And go look at Indeed.
Starting point is 01:36:17 And go look at ZipRecruiter and go look at LinkedIn. There's tons of jobs that are out there. But for the people that are on the edge that maybe have a little, bit of attitude. Now, I disagree with this. Oh, they're hanging on to their job for dear life. Wait a minute. I'm hanging on to my wife for dear life. I don't want to lose that. I don't to lose my kids. I don't want to lose a great job. I don't want to lose a great opportunity.
Starting point is 01:36:39 So why is that so bad? I think that what we're seeing is appreciation and it's harder for people on a whim to trade jobs right now. And so they're not. That's the headline. It is harder to change jobs on a whim. So some people are not changing jobs, but great people that reach milestones in their careers are able to find that next job because there's tons of jobs that are available. And I love these headlines that are just made to create clicks and the underlying messages. The economy is just fine and great people that invest to themselves with great attitudes and great skills are finding good careers, and maybe people that are on the edge of that have to keep the job they got and maybe appreciate what they got?
Starting point is 01:37:27 By the way, you know what's the one thing about this story, Tom? Who are the two people that they quote from what company? Corn Ferry. Corn Ferry. What does Corn Ferry not like? Jobhuggers. You know why? Because Corn Ferry wants you to quit your job and go elsewhere once every other year.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Because the more you quit your job and go elsewhere, it's a new 25% commission they're making. And they want you to go and stay out of company for one year, so they get 100% of commission. two years later they want you to quit to move you to another company again because that's how they make their money. They can have one executive that changes jobs five times and they get paid five times on the same exact employee. That's their business model. I don't know if you understand what I just said to you.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Their job is to call you to be open-minded so they can move you five times. They don't care about your, let me stay there and, you know, what do you call it? Stay with a company for 20, 30 years. If people stay at companies for 20, 30 years, cornfury doesn't exist. Just so you know that. They don't want that business model. they sell moving so during COVID when I was like dude they don't appreciate you you should do this that was the script that would call and say do you ever feel like you're not appreciated with
Starting point is 01:38:31 underappreciated overworked look I mean I don't know a lot about the company but Vinny you know there's just it's it's becoming where I'm not trying to say these companies are becoming they take their employees for granted yeah they take their employees for granted and look if you were ever open I have three qualified jobs that they're willing to pay you bonus, that they're willing to do this, and they're willing to do this. And I know these guys. They would appreciate you. And let me know if you're open to it. Maybe simmer on it. Let's you and I talk on Monday.
Starting point is 01:39:01 I know you're at work right now. That's the script. By way, now watch this. You want to see part two? Part two. So that's Pat from Corn Ferry gets you to move value team. And let's present Adam's the CEO. Hi Adam. This is Tom from Corn Ferry. I understand that you've got some job openings. I'd love to help you find some people.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Go right at it. Corn Ferry makes a double. Double dip in corn fairy. Yeah. Did you get it? Then they move you. By the way, they're not bad people. It's a multi-billion-dollar company.
Starting point is 01:39:30 It's their economy. They're very good at what they do, by the way. They're very, very good at what they do. But that's the business model. How does a divorce attorney make money? Divorce. You think, imagine a statistic came up and said, 99% of marriages are living, staying together 30-plus years.
Starting point is 01:39:46 There is no divorce attorneys. No, they're done. Divorce attorney has got to be. like, hey, I'll throw a couple of sky miles. You're away. Well, you seem really nice. You seem really nice. Maybe he doesn't appreciate you. So,
Starting point is 01:39:59 you bring up the word appreciation. I think there's another word that comes down when you're talking about employees and employers, and it's loyalty. I've been with the company I worked welcome funds. 18 years. I'm a pretty loyal person. Every time I would go to Nalba, I would get recruited by some insurance company, some carry. I said,
Starting point is 01:40:16 listen, they treat me fairly. The compents and say me well, I'm staying here. It always weirds me out when I hear people, I said, are you friends with anybody from high school? Nah, I don't talk to anybody from high school. What about from college? I don't talk to those people. I'm still friends with people from elementary, middle, high school.
Starting point is 01:40:30 I'm loyal to a fault. I have friends for 20, 30, 40 years. Do you know how hard it is to stay a job for over a decade? The average person in America, do you know how many jobs they have in their lifetime? A dozen. A dozen. I've been at the same job 18 years. And if Pat will have me, I'll be here another 18 years.
Starting point is 01:40:48 Sorry, guys out there. they tried to fire me the other day. I showed up the other day. I said, I don't even work here, guys. That's what makes this thing so difficult. Shout at the Seinfeld. But if you're compensated fairly and you're treated well, it's a two-way street and appreciate the opportunity and also appreciate the employee. All right. Let's go to the next one here. This next one, Vinnie, I'm coming to you first. A tip. I'm going to give you a quick tip here. Oh, corn fairy. America's tipping culture spirals from 15% to 30%. As digital guilt. trips kick in. Rob, can you run a poll? Is this about Moyles? How people actually treat these things? Because I see it now every, I'm buying clothes. They're asking for tips. I'm like, I just
Starting point is 01:41:29 bought clothes. Yes. To the traditional U.S. tipping went from the norm of 15 to 20% for goods of service has escalated from 25 to 28 and 30% driven by point of sales systems like square clover toast, which flash preset tip buttons. The rationale behind this is the most people emotionally don't want to feel cheap so they won't pick the lowest option. These systems, them often hide the custom option, creating pressure as the person who just rang up, flips a screen around and stands there watching while you make your choice. This shift term guilt tipping is fueled by technology, inflation and pandemic era habits, pushing consumers to tip out out of shame rather than appreciation. Vinny, your thoughts on this? Well, it's crazy that this story came up yesterday because
Starting point is 01:42:11 right before the podcast prep meeting, I was at Starbucks and I'm not even joking. I just went in for a muffin, the girl went a muffin, a banana, banana. Right there, Tom, grabbed it, gave it to me, swung the thing around, and the options were 25, 28, and 30, and I was like, are you, and they're looking at you like, like a puppy, and I was like, listen, you didn't do any,
Starting point is 01:42:35 if you grabbed the muffin, because I like it warmed up, if you grabbed it and you threw it to some other barista, like, you know, the fish vendors, and you grab it, and they slanded the microwave, I'll give you 25%. but 30% it's absolutely ridiculous and you know what it makes me feel like like you know that awkward uncomfortable moment
Starting point is 01:42:52 Rob have you guys been to Publix in like the past couple months where you're standing there checking out again your groceries and then loud as hell the girl that's running it goes would you like to donate to the children's hospital and it's just a moment because everybody looks at you and you're standing there with ice cream and lottery tickets
Starting point is 01:43:08 you're like I can't I can't afford it It's just that I hate you But it's just putting me in that awkward situation If I want to tip, I'm going to tip, but you have to do something for it. You literally can't grab something. You got to dance. You got to do something. You know somebody told me the other day, too?
Starting point is 01:43:22 They went to go strawberry picking in California. I'm not joking. You know, when they go to checkout the thing, it was 25. I think it was somewhere like Bakersfield. 25, 30, 35 percent on the thing to tip for you going to pick your own strawberries. I went into the field here. I picked my own berries. No, Tom, but listen, but I was sitting here watching you,
Starting point is 01:43:40 giving you that good positive energy for you to pick the right ones. Remember when I told you, no. Stay to the right. Stay to the right. That's 30%. It's unbelievable. Adam, your thoughts on this tip of thing. Yeah, well, you ever go to a store and you order Starbucks, whatever it is, and they flip the thing around?
Starting point is 01:43:57 Yeah. And then it's just like you feel like Clint Eastwood and the good, bad, they're like, it's awkward. 10, 20 or 30%. I'm like, dude, all you did was hand me a sandwich. You provided no value. You turned around and did this. I'm not tipping you $7 because you gave me a sandwich.
Starting point is 01:44:15 sandwich. It's not happening right here. So I feel you on this. It's making things very awkward. You know, Trump talks about no tax on tips. We're not going to have any tax on tips. How about no tips for no value? If all you did was flip this, I'm not going to do a Russian roulette standoff with you right now to give you $7 for handing me a sandwich. Save that money. So, I mean, you Uber, you Uber, that's something like the guy's driving me somewhere safe. You know what I mean? You tip, correct? safe careful out there buddy
Starting point is 01:44:46 but you know what I'm saying like you're like what are the top so Uber drivers performing a service number one and there's a fee for the service and you know that the service fee goes mostly to Uber and there's a part for him but when you get in an Uber and they say is the temperature okay for you
Starting point is 01:45:01 like this? Yes he's giving me a service would you like music on I've got and there's sometimes serious satellite radio and they'll say would you like and I'll say no thank you you can I'm going to make a call and everything but they're being very nice and they're polite, and there's a bottle of water, and then there's...
Starting point is 01:45:16 The mince. And it's clean. Yes. I appreciate that. Yeah. This guy's working, and so now he's going to drive 30 minutes from the airport for me. You know what?
Starting point is 01:45:26 I'm going to give him a tip. Yeah. Especially if he's a safe driver and it's a safe ride and it was clean and everything. Now you're tipping for experience and effort above neutral. Yeah. The only time I give a tip when I'm doing an Uber in Miami is if they speak English because no drivers speak English in Miami, zero, none. If you speak English and you're driving Uber,
Starting point is 01:45:47 no offense, you need to find a better profession because you get paid on the amount of value that you can provide. Why do they not pay maids a lot of money? Because anybody can clean a floor. Anybody can drive a car. And I know that I'm coming at the English-speaking Mijente out there, but anybody can drive an Uber. I don't even know how these people,
Starting point is 01:46:05 these people are probably not documented. If I needed to, I would like to see what Uber's doing in their hiring process. Not one Uber driver in Miami. Ablaz Inglis. Well, they say, Ablaz Españo, which I do. How do we go from tipping to racial profile? I'm just letting you know.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Adam, what's your point? I'm just letting you know, Tom. You've probably been in an Uber twice in your life. Let the expert handle this. They need to handle. Actually, how many times do you think you've been in an Uber or a live? Oh, I mean, I can give you the number. Thousands and thousands and thousands of times.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Give me a number. Like, what is it? 5,000 times. Oh, okay, got it. It's 5,000 times. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's a, so 5,000, the average amount is what?
Starting point is 01:46:38 10 bucks 20 bucks 30 bucks no for me yeah i live in miami pat i don't you know just say the average what's average 40 bucks okay so 200 grand on 5 000 uh so 200 grand spending how long 10 years it's been about 10 years pat 10 long years so if you had an 800 dollar monthly payment so it's cheaper to own a car than uber 100% well here's the interesting 100% this guy could have bought a bentley i could buy it with a chauffeur with a chauffeur with a chauffeur Oh, oh, oh, what does a car run on? Gas? Don't you need insurance?
Starting point is 01:47:13 Don't you have a L.A.? No, Rob, we got a ticket. Didn't you have a flat tire the other day? I got you, buddy. I got you. You keep doing it. Yeah, but you keep doing it was no way speaking English. I got himself for, you know, listen.
Starting point is 01:47:22 Yeah, so let's go to the next story. I feel like a rich limousine ride, but it's a Toyota Corolla. That's good for you, buddy. You keep doing that. We're proud of you. I appreciate you. Next story I want to go to your sarcasm. This is not sarcasm.
Starting point is 01:47:33 I'm protecting it. I'm actually proud of you that you're, you're staying. Listen, it's a lot safer for me. Ketamine Queen takes plea in case that shook Hollywood. This is actually terrible story, folks. Ketamine Queen. When you think about the story with Matthew Perry, this story was just dropped.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Rob, do you got a clip on this or no? I do. Jasveen Sanga, also known as the Ketamine Queen, accepted a plea deal admitting she supplied ketamine that contributed to her. to Matthew Perry's death in 23, with court documents stating she admitted to maintaining a drug-involved premises, distribution of ketamine and distribution of ketamine resulting in death, and serious bodily injury. Federal agents raided her North Hollywood home in March of 2024, seizing 1,700 grams of methamphetamine pills,
Starting point is 01:48:25 79 vials of liquid ketamine, MDMA, counterfezannics, cocaine, and $5,723 in cash, with prosecutors noting she ran a drug traffic in operation catering to celebrities. Sanga sold 50 vials of ketamine to Perry via Eric Fleming and Kenneth Iwamsa, including ketamine-laced lollipops. Jeez. And after Perry's death on October 2020, 23, instructed Fleming to delete their signal messages per court records. Sanga faces up to 75 years in prison and $2.5 million in fines with a plea requiring forfeiture of C's CECA. and restitution to Perry's estate and other victims,
Starting point is 01:49:06 and she admitted selling ketamine to CM in 2019. Who is CM? What is this C.m? who died from an overdose per court documents. Rob, is this the clip from? Yes, ABC News. Go for it. Tonight, the accused drug dealer known as the ketamine queen
Starting point is 01:49:23 has agreed to plead guilty to charges connected to the death of actor Matthew Perry. Prosecutors say she illegally sold him the drug leading to his fatal overdose. The fifth and final plea in the case. Here's ABC's Trevor Alt. Nearly two years after the fatal overdose of friend star Matthew Perry, the so-called ketamine queen, is now expected to plead guilty
Starting point is 01:49:45 for supplying him with the dose that ultimately killed him. According to court documents, accused drug dealer Jasveen Sengha offered Perry a sample of ketamine through a friend, and within weeks, 50 vials would follow. The actor had been open about his longtime struggle with addiction, speaking with our Diane Sawyer a year before his death. Addiction, the big terrible thing, is far too powerful for anyone to defeat alone. But together one day at a time, we can beat it down.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Your disease is just outside, just in one arm, push-ups just waiting, just waiting for you, waiting to get you alone. Court documents show after Perry's death, Sengha tried to destroy evidence of her involvement. Texting their mutual friend, delete all our messages. Sangha is the fifth and final person charged in Perry's overdose, all of them pleading guilty. In the end, these defendants were more interested in profiting off Mr. Perry than caring for his well-being. Mary Sangha was just weeks away. He paused right there. Vinnie, thoughts on the story.
Starting point is 01:50:49 I mean, due finally justice, justice served. I mean, it was still a horrible thing with him with, you know, we had the addiction part of it. And, you know, a lot of people were going to say, well, if it wasn't her, it was going to be somebody else. and it was only going to be a matter of time. I, you know, before, you know, before I've, God had me find you, Pat, I was, I was in that, not the ketamine in this crowd. By the way, I lived in North Hollywood right next to this girl, apparently. I had no idea in Don't know.
Starting point is 01:51:13 But, you know, hanging out, partying and doing all that Hollywood lifestyle stuff, everybody, especially in the hills, people had, there was dealers that would come to the hill, I'm talking about high-ranking, big, huge A-list celebrities that had these people that would come in the hills and serve them all the time. time and then it was only until you know I lost two friends uh because I don't know like again did he OD or was it accidental or was it too much because like when my friends passed people automatically were like oh they they you know they OD'd and it's that they were poison because the the cocaine that they did they both did one little thing of cocaine both of them
Starting point is 01:51:49 died right there and then one of their uh girlfriend so I mean I think I it's good that he has finally they're coming clean she's admitting what she did I don't know what what so if she was facing 75, if you plea, what does it come down to, that she's not going to spend the rest of her life in prison? I don't know what it is, Rob, probably about 20 years, 20 or 30 years, but I don't know. I'm just happy that finally they came out and they found them. So that's all five people now, so justice is going to be done. How old is the, how old is the girl, the ketamine queen? How old is that girl? I want to say 40, Rob. Where is she? Forty-two years old. And she's from the United Kingdom. So she's not, she wasn't even born here. There were so many guys like this.
Starting point is 01:52:28 man. There were so many guys like this in LA, guys that would buy 100,000 ecstasy pills at the time, guys that, this is a very, very sad story of something like this happening. But you know what Matthew Perry said, which was tough? Wait, because let's just say that's a friend of yours. And like, I'm going to be around them all the time. You have a life. Out of a friend of mine, we had an accountability deal. And I know, so you got to call me because he would take 10, 20, vacations at a time. Jeez. Died taking 50 at a time.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Jeez. And he would call me. And I would call him four or five times a day. And I knew when he was on something because this is how we talked. He got into two or three accidents in a week of him just hitting people.
Starting point is 01:53:13 Driving? Driving hitting people. So eventually I'm like, let him stay in prison for a couple weeks so he can get it out of his system because he has to agree to go to a rehab facility. You can't force somebody to go to it. You can't put somebody in there.
Starting point is 01:53:26 But he said the most magical thing, couldn't wait until he was alone. He couldn't wait until he was alone to manage his temptations while nobody else is around. And the reality of it is, you're eventually going to be alone. And when you're alone, what do you do? Boom. The dark energy shows up and like, hey, man, I'm going to take something. That is the, this leads me to the next story. Unless I found him, you want to say something about this.
Starting point is 01:53:49 I mean, I've literally lost a handful of friends to drug overdoses. I mean, I'm born and raised in Miami. I've been in the nightlife scene. I've owned bars. I've been to clubs. I mean, it's all fun in games until lights out. So speaking of ketamine right here, this ketamine queen lady,
Starting point is 01:54:08 in my experience, there's three different types of tiers of people that end up using the drugs, whether it's ketamine or other drugs. Ketamine specifically, so you know, you're using it. It's trippy. It's euphoric.
Starting point is 01:54:18 You're having a good time. You're in the club. The lights. You're having fun. All right. You're having an out-of-body experience. Okay, that's one option. Second thing is,
Starting point is 01:54:26 is you end up in what's called a K-hole. And you're often another dimension. You disassociate. It's an out-of-body experience. And that can last a long time. And I've seen people in clubs. I've seen people out there in a K-hole. I'm like, what's going on with this?
Starting point is 01:54:41 I'll leave her alone. Let's go. She's okay. And then the third thing is you don't wake up. And you overdose and you're gone. And what happens is you build up a tolerance. Oh, I used to take just one little. thing now it's two now it's saying you said there's a guy who took 50 at a time this is insane so if you
Starting point is 01:55:01 manage it which i don't necessarily recommend you know i think Elon Musk has been on record allegedly saying that he's been prescribed ketamine for whatever uh allegedly but you do too much i mean you're not showing up to work the next day uh here you go Elon right there but it's a sad thing and if you have friends that are doing this just be like i love you man please just relax with that kind of stuff because you never know when they're going to be alone and they hit that thing one time and the cops show up and they drag their body out. This is a business model that people need friends. They need the depth of friends around them and they need the Lord and they need faith.
Starting point is 01:55:40 Because otherwise you add them in these dark places. Who's George Nicopoulos? Dr. Nick, Elvis Presley's doctor, who was put on trial and acquitted lack of sufficient evidence but he was prescribing Elvis Presley. He had this big white haircut and everything. Who's Conrad Robert Murray? Dr. M. Dr. M. Right. Dr. M.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Is that Mike Jackson? Following Michael Jackson around and prescribing to him. And then they all know it. The celebrities and the athletes, they know what's out there. Athletes at least have to pee in the cup and get tested. And it kind of helps keep them in their entourage kind of at bay a little bit. But Nickelback said it in their song, Rockstar. They'll get you everything with that evil.
Starting point is 01:56:22 smile everybody's got their drug dealer on speed dial and I mean now gonna be a rock star yeah and you you hear that and you realize there is a business model that's just praying on these people and she's just the latest you know um leech praying on people there was there was uh the the i'll never forget the interaction because we had another friend who uh i met him and his sister uh when they were 18 19 years old and i went to one of his games he was plain he'll remember this i'm not going to say his name i went to his game because he was using the same thing that the other guy was using and i went to him and i spoke to him and i told him you know i talked to the other guy the guy that was doing because i found out who he was and i
Starting point is 01:57:07 went to spoke to that guy i told this guy said i swear to god if you continue with this stuff it's going to be a bad situation for you two years later that guy stopped and he does very well-known real estate wife kids beautiful sister beautiful family I love that family. I love being around the family. He did some things that I chose to do business with him 18 years ago. Dumbest mistake he made 20 years ago, 18 years ago.
Starting point is 01:57:31 But there are these guys that go around that sell these pills, and they don't know what they're doing, but you're going to destroy someone's life. And that person is someone's son, someone's daughter, someone's family. I've told the story so many times where this one, we'll wrap up on the story.
Starting point is 01:57:48 One of my friends, one time, is on PCP. and he in middle of the street there's a basketball tournament going on he gets out of the car goes up to an innocent kid didn't do anything just punch him in a face with brass knuckles oh man shuts the guy's jaw 30 days he's eating through a straw he took by the way this is a guy that was never a Christian he was like one of the crazy kids that I knew from high school and he says you have no idea what happened to
Starting point is 01:58:20 me. The father of the son shows up to the house. Have I told you this story? The father of the father of the son that he shut the jaw, punched him in the face with a brass knoll shows up to his house, knocks on the door, somebody else opens the door, said, I want to talk to your son. He then comes to the door looking at the fight. He has no clue this man is. He says, yes, hop out. I'm like, uncle, what can I help you with? Says, you know who I am? I have no clue who you are. Shows the son's picture. So this is who I am. you did this to my son. He says, I'm not here to do anything to you.
Starting point is 01:58:56 I just wanted you to see my pain. Wow. Because one day you're going to have kids. And I would never want you to have the pain that I have right now as a father. But I wanted you to remember this face. Jeez. And the father's in tears.
Starting point is 01:59:09 He says, I can't talk to my son for 30 days. Listen, I'm not sitting here telling you I walk on water and the dumb mistakes that I made as a kid and stupid, all this other stuff because some friends are doing you so he kind of want to be part of the cool camp as well. That guy ends up becoming the reason why the guy that stopped and became a Christian.
Starting point is 01:59:30 He's the person that influenced me to go to Bible studies Friday nights from 6 o'clock in the morning to 2 o'clock in the morning and give you other Friday night. Wow. So he cleaned up. Because I never thought he could change. Wow. He was the one guy that I never thought he could change.
Starting point is 01:59:42 And we went to Bible study together for a year and a half. Year and a half later, I'm the guy at Pasadena on Colorado at 25 years old holding up sign John 316, Jesus is coming. And the one guy that I told the story of took, took the 50 Vicodans. Me and that guy invited him to Bible study. He came one day. He cried so loud, most painful. We took him to a restaurant called Shakey's and Glendale.
Starting point is 02:00:05 We just drove past it the other day. And in Shakies, it was when at 1 o'clock in the morning, he steps out to go out to the car to get some Vicodan, and we followed him. And he opens the black Mustang. And he opens it up, and I took it away from him. And I'm like, dude, you can't do this. Pat, don't do this to me.
Starting point is 02:00:21 No, no, it's not that one. It's a different one. They actually just showed by it the other day. We drove by five days. You told the story a week ago. This is the story. That's crazy. That's the story, bro, right across some contrasts that just shut down.
Starting point is 02:00:33 Right where you said that was like the young. Anyways, man, this is, and by the way, this is, this was my, one of my favorite people in the world who died and I miss them every day. So, anyway, sometimes the role that we play as friends is to ask, encourage. challenge push get involved as much as you can but at the end of the day man they got to want to do it as well they got to want to do the good the good solution is just never get involved never just never get involved anyways gang great spending time with you guys again reminder august 27 for those you guys i want to come see the campus you want to see the podcast that you want to see the studio you want to see
Starting point is 02:01:08 the hangars you want to see everything that we got going on here for those you guys that are going to the vault conference go to vaultconference.com again the vaultconference dot com get your ticket myself tony robins martha stew david falk at the event And then if you buy the ticket on August 27, you can come here, get a private tour from us. And Rob's going to put this link at the top for you guys to have. All you got to do is own a ticket. If you're general, you'll be at the networking and it went with 400,500 of other people.
Starting point is 02:01:31 If you're a platinum executive, you'll get a tour. If you're a founder and CEO, I'll give the tour to you. And we'll have some finger foods and networking and all this other stuff there as well. And anybody that, the first, I think it's the first 200 that do buy and register that they'll be attending. You'll be able to bring one guest with you while you come into the event. Anyways, having said that, God bless everybody. We'll do it again on Friday. Take care. Bye-bye, bye-bye.

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