PBD Podcast - Trump Threatens Iran, Britain Targets Billionaires & Lesbian Bar Freakout | PBD Podcast #862

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team break down President Donald Trump’s high-stakes meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping, U.S.-China relations, Taiwan, trade, AI, and Iran.Plus, Trump’s UN Ge...neral Assembly showdown over Iran, Harvey Weinstein’s 15-year prison sentence, rising Treasury yields, diesel prices, and more. A special contest winner also joins the Home Team live in studio.👞 GET THE FLB1’s IN CHOCOLATE:https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6👖 SHOP THE FLB TECH PANTS:https://bit.ly/4iO4rNB👞 GET THE NEW BILLIONAIRE SUEDE LOAFER:https://bit.ly/4ym5oRA👕 SHOP THE ICON COLLECTION:https://bit.ly/3TuUU3xⓂ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT:https://bit.ly/4kSVksoⓂ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES:https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING:https://bit.ly/4lzQph2🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE:https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj🇰 KALSHI:http://kalshi.com/pbdSUBSCRIBE TO:@VALUETAINMENThttps://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCIHdDJ0tjn_3j-FS7s_X1kQ@ValuetainmentComedyhttps://studio.youtube.com/channel/UCBhk5IGscWGP53VhaOs8ApgABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of two boys and two girls. He currently resides in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so close like it takes sweet bit of three. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signs. Right here. You are a one of one?
Starting point is 00:00:19 My son's right. I think I've ever said this before. I've never touched a rake. Tom, have you touched a chainsaw? Yes, as a matter of fact, yes. Why you ask? Oh, Matt. As a matter of fact, yes, I hell.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Montana, I almost killed myself. And we're live, guys. Yeah, I know we are. When we had a tornado that came through Dallas, remember that kind of mid-sized one? Yeah. I went out there with a chainsaw, and I helped Claire Parker. There was these two trees went down,
Starting point is 00:00:49 these two guys. We had these three songs. I just want to know if you've used it, Tom. Yeah, no, definitely. You have to use it. Okay, all right. So. You have to know what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Have you? I was in the military. We used everything. Oh. So, of course, yes. Okay. But we have a special guest here. with us. A few months back, we announced a certain contest for people to be able to participate
Starting point is 00:01:06 on the podcast. Today, we have Chris Wagner. But Wagner is the way we say like Honest Wagner. We have Chris Wagner here from Indiana. We've never met until we went to dinner last night, and we found that six weeks ago. This man had his sixth baby. And he's got six kids in seven years with the same woman, not a traditional Catholic, not a Mormon, just a regular guy that wants to make babies. So Chris, it's great to have you on a podcast. Thanks a lot, man. Can't wait. And how did it happen, by the way? You just, you bought March and we called you and we ran a raffle and we ran a raffle. I thought maybe it's real. Yeah, and then, hey, here we are. Let me ask you, have we ever met? No. Until last night. By the time, people are like,
Starting point is 00:01:48 they pick their favorite. Yeah, right. We've never met. This is it. That just kind of happened. And we're about to have you. I was to say, honestly, I thought I was selected maybe because of, you know, the family and stuff, you guys, you know, it's all about family on the podcast. I got six kids, married. So I don't know. Oh, you think. thought that was it because I thought maybe it wasn't random, but I don't know. All right. It was completely random. By the way, when I tell you complete, we don't, they tell me, I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:02:09 They just tell me, here's a raffle, here's who was selected. But it's great to have you for the people that are watching this. If you want to find a way to how to get on the podcast, text the word podcast to 3103401132 again, text award podcast to 3103401132, and we typically tell our community first when we do crazy things like this. But with that being, so we got a lot of weird things going on. My favorite story is the one from Britain. Okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And by the way, as crazy as this story is, watch how many blue states take this idea. Oh, God. Britain announces that they're going to have dedicated IRS agents for every one of their billionaires in Britain. Which, by the way, if you think about it, it's a brilliant idea. You pay the IRS agent, how much money? $60K year.
Starting point is 00:02:53 $60K a year. Go get the money. And go get an additional percent, 2%, 3% on a billionaire, 18 million, 17 million. Dedicated IRS agent for you, Mr. Vinny billionaire. Is he at the house? Is he at the house? He's on every move you made.
Starting point is 00:03:07 What was that? Every move, man. We'll definitely talk about that story. There's a story circulating, Alina Haba, I got to say this. I'm going to keep it very brief. And Vinny's not happy about it. Okay. I mean, we were having an extensive conversation about, you know, rumor has that
Starting point is 00:03:23 Alina Haba is with somebody. It's a new story. Engaged. And anyways, I don't want to get into it. There's a lot of upset men out there. Can we turn off the camera? I don't want people to see Vinnie. Don't zoom in on Vinny.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Anyways, congratulations. Whatever, Vinny wasn't happy. And it's been three years and three months. He hasn't had an alcohol. It's going to start tonight. So it's going to be a very. Chris, you're coming with me, bro. All right, next door.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I'm confused. We haven't seen her in a while. I thought she was working for the British government. It just was assigned to the billionaire. No? She actually met the guy? Did you get it? I got it.
Starting point is 00:03:56 To all the people with. MBAs and PhDs that are laughing. I respect you. That was a joke for people that are part of this community. The pastile of the community, the rest of the people that have never done this. If you don't even know what I'm doing, you're like, what is he? Is he drawn something? Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:04:08 You were going to a next story. Yeah. So next story is Sonny Hosten thought it was a good idea to talk about what she did as a jury back in the days that a lot of people who have been investigating and saying, I think she's even full of shit, but why would you even tell the story? Yeah. It's such a dark story. It's like, hey, let you say that's your mom.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Mom, please don't ever share that story. Ever. Let's say you're a parent. Honey, why would you ever share the story? You're a friend. Hey, don't. You're on the view. You kick him under the table.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Be quiet. Cut the clip. Too late people now know. Crazy. Right? Crazy. And we have to tell this story because, you know, she just, I don't know, she's a wild one. Next, we had the United, is it the United Nations meeting?
Starting point is 00:04:52 And also, Xi, we haven't reacted to either one of them. The president of United States, Trump, up and he calls out Iran and he says, we can annihilate you. I don't know what the word uses, but something like that. I think it is annihilates. He was annihilated. And then the Iranian president comes up and says, look what you did. And then Bibi gets up and gives a speech and half the room leaves. And then a representative from Israel's going around, taking notes and names of every dignitary, the state leaders that left the room. He's like, who are these people? They may have a pageer being sent for them or something like that. Like an old old. Don't open the mail. Check your mail.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Check your mail. Don't check your mail. That's the thing. Actually, do not check your mail. It makes you have three layers of people that are checking your mail. You never know what's going to happen there. And then Xi Jinping comes with his, what is that cartoon character that, Winnie Dupoo?
Starting point is 00:05:39 And the president flies over a, what was it? The bomber. The bomber. And it's so flipping loud. And he's just, you know, looking at him to see if he reacted. He stays like this. And then he goes to a place. He's shown the auto pan.
Starting point is 00:05:54 He just taps him in the back. You got to see how we. that is just a very interesting guy. Andrews and Horowitz launches AI school as college alternative. It would be interesting to see what that is. And I think we are going in that direction. Some of the people that are homeschooling would actually probably entertain it. Boston Globe does their best story in a long time that gets them thousands of new subscribers.
Starting point is 00:06:16 You know what this? You're not going to believe this story. But this is the part about capitalism that you've got to love. So a lesbian communist bar opens up. I'm not kidding with it. Boston is that again? A lesbian communist bar opens up. Those are my favorite bars.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Those are the favorite bars. But these are like legit communist lesbians that can bench two plays. Not the kind of lesbians you like in Miami. So these are different kind of lesbians that are like combine. They can really do 25, 12 times. Hey, don't count me out. Anyways. So the owner, this lady who is poor lady is trying to make the money so she can pay the rent and everything says,
Starting point is 00:06:48 listen, can we once a week allow people to come without the mask one day a week so we can make some profit? Then the lesbian communists that were coming to this bar get pissed off saying you're such a racist. I don't know what they start calling it. How dare you? It's 2026. This is why no matter what you do, if you ever start a business, you will eventually become a capitalist and the communism, socialism will come out of you because you'll see exactly how people treat businesses. Best story, Boston Globe.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Didn't Boston Globe do that one story about Catholic stuff, the church and the movie was made? Was that Boston Globe or who was that? They did a few stories. Let's not talk about that. We're supposed to sweep that under the garage. Spotlight. Spotlight. Was that a Bosn' Glob or who was that with? I think it was the Boston.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I don't know who it was. We'll check it. We'll verify it. Here's another good story for you. You ready? Spotlight. Yeah, but what was it is the Boston Globe. You're right. All right. So it's been a long time since that story. This one got him subscribers. A grandmother who is worried for her grandson doesn't have any money. Phenomenal Future Looks Bright story that Vincent O'Shanna found. This wonderful, I think she's in her 80. 88? 80-something years old. Chris, she decides to learn how to Minecraft, records it on YouTube, doesn't ask anybody for money,
Starting point is 00:08:04 but people learn what she's doing it for, raises $50,000. What an awesome story. What a great story. 81 years old, Pat. I'd love to get her information. If somebody knows, I'd love to call her and make it even a little bit better. Tom this morning's got some bad news for all of you. If you were thinking about buying a house, guess what, stories came out.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And it's real because when, you know, Tom is. He's not happy about it. I'm moving in the mortgage rates, hit the highest levels in 20 months, even if you got a credit score of $750 right now, if you wanted to go by a 30-year loan right now, it's 7.5% today, 7.5%. This morning, my dad's like,
Starting point is 00:08:41 did you hear how many homes are on sale right now? The record-breaking most ever. I said, what is it that? He gives me a number. I Google it. It's 4.3 million homes right now for sale in America. The highest we ever hit was 5 million, and that was in 2008.
Starting point is 00:08:53 And of the 4.3 million homes in America per capita, Guess what's number one state with the most homes for sale? The one you're in right now, state of Florida. Number one. Carolina was three, something like that. But, Pat, it wouldn't be a good time to buy because, I mean, the rates. The only reason why it would be a good time to buy is because the seller is desperate, and he is going from selling to renting. Because a seller to go by another house, it doesn't make any sense right now.
Starting point is 00:09:17 You're leaving the 3.8. You're leaving a 4.7 to go to 7.5. Your mortgage is going to be $2,000 more. It doesn't make mathematical sense. it's only a great time if you're buying from a seller that's about to go to rent. That's the time. Or they're going through a life-changing event, death and a family, kids moved out, divorce, something like that. That's when it makes sense because the motivation needs to be there.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Next story. Starbucks is shutting down 250 stores and Tom thinks that's a great idea with what Brian Nicola is doing. I kind of want to hear what he has to say about it. Social Security, a Michigan Democrat says people that are getting their benefits 100% at 67 years old, I want to bring you down to 60 years old. And I'm sure a lot of boomers are going to be celebrating with this. I think it's a horrible idea. And I think we need to go the other way.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And I'll tell you why I think we need to go the other way. And you can fight me on it and, you know, call me out and say all the other stuff. But we'll have the friendly conversation here together in a minute. There's one story that's going viral that Connor brought it up to us. And I think he was trying to hint why he always brings iced coffee into meetings. And he does want me to get upset at him. Because I'm always like, why does Connor always have iced coffee? This is so brilliant, this historian kid.
Starting point is 00:10:26 So there's a story that's going viral with New York Times, Chris, that employers are furious with Gen Z showing up to a job interview and putting in ice coffee right there because that's disrespectful. Massive argument that you should never show up with an ice coffee
Starting point is 00:10:43 to a job interview. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about that. I mean, listen, Vinnie showed up with a shot of tequila. It was like, at least... It was for Middle Easterns When you have that, it's a different. So that leads me to the next story.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Alcohol consumption is down. Alcohol consumption is now. Last night, we were at Casa DiAngelo and joined ourselves. I think about all of us were hammered. It was very bad. Chris remembers this. Hamered on. Tom was telling you his dirty jokes.
Starting point is 00:11:07 If you can get Tom and you find Tom after three drinks, you're going to have the time of your life. Oh, man. But you've got to get him there. He's hard. He's tough. You've got to like find a way to be creative about it. And alas, but not least,
Starting point is 00:11:21 this 83-year-old Christian grandmother in Canada goes in and I don't know what happens they euthanize her she doesn't she's brother she has like mental like not mental problems but she's older and she has cancer and they basically talked her into like no no you should just end your life and they're euthanizer up so well the family was no the family was like yeah but think about it if you're a little bit off and they're like no no you should do it even though she was like I don't want to do it she was crying to her family that's Canada for Canada
Starting point is 00:11:48 Canada there you go buddy and by the you know what they would have done you know what we've done in the U.S., we would say go play some Minecraft and start a YouTube change. Exactly. That's a difference. Damn right. It's a real American. Yeah, seriously, that's what a real American is.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Start a business, Grandma. You go start a YouTube channel and play Minecraft and raise some money. That's the right way to do it. Heartbreaking story. With that being said, gang, we got some new things to drop to you for those of you guys that like these new tech pants, which you can wear out work. Our CFO, VP of Finance, where's this, is tech pants, incredible quality. Can you pull up the, play the clip here.
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Starting point is 00:13:29 with the UK tax footprint dramatically expanding oversight of the country's richest people per Bloomberg, HMRC, is using its own record, public information and data shared by foreign governments to identify billionaires with UK tax exposure and map their connections to businesses, trust, and other entities. the UK tax authority has assigned a personal compliance manager to every billionaire with its reach as it escalates enforcement on offshore structure and wealth planning zero hedge verdict. Britain is about to discover a part of the laffer curve where a billionaire taxpayer simply gets on a plane and goes somewhere else. The policy is test case for wealth taxation and practice.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Tider compliance may extract more from the ultra bridge or it may shrink the base, it's taxing, and both outcomes will arrive with receipts. By the way, watch how quickly California, Kamala Harris, AOC, Newsom, Mamdani, some of these blue states, watch how quickly they're going to look at this and they're going to say, this is a brilliant idea to go after the billionaires. Tom, how do you process the story yourself? I love it. So, last year, there were 156 billionaires in Britain.
Starting point is 00:14:44 What was the net gain year over year? One. One. And supposedly... What does that mean? One? Only one new billion. They're now 157 billionaires after one year. Supposedly four were created and three departed. Because do you know what the UK doesn't have that Canada has? What's that? An angry departure tax. We've talked to people that are members of the boardroom.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Britain doesn't have an exit tax? Correct. And in Canada, they call it the angry departure tax. And we've talked to a wonderful Canadian people that are members of the boardroom who have talked about, the difficulty. They had to give like 17 to 20% of wealth to Canada to leave. In other words, to turn in your passport in Canada, Vinnie, and permanently live in Florida.
Starting point is 00:15:26 And we've talked to guys at the boardroom doing to this. So back there, there is no such thing in the UK. And would you like to know the number one place that they go, the number one destination is places like Monaco. They go to Monaco.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And then they go to Dubai. And they just recreate residency, but the number one of all, I give you number two and number three, is the UAE specifically. And they just go get themselves a place there, and they reestablish residency. And so what do I think? I think if you wanted to push all these people out where you have no departure tax and you already are not really making more billionaires, Pat, because there's this migration out happening right now. So you're going to take 156 unemployed people, assign them each a billionaire,
Starting point is 00:16:21 and then they're going to be unemployed again because these people are going to leave. All they're going to do is reestablish residency in Monaco or Dubai. What's the likelihood that Britain's going to have an exit tax? Have they ever talked about it? I don't know. The scariest taxes the country could have, by the way. There's probably 156 people pissed off. How does that word it up?
Starting point is 00:16:39 An exit tax. Once you leave, they can retroactively go after your money for how many years? I mean, listen, there's clients we have at the cigar lounge, at the boardroom, which, by the way, if you're local and you want to learn more about it, go to the boardroom cigar lounge for Lauderdale. Can you pull up the website too, please? Guys are sitting there. They have $10, $20 million still sitting in Canada because they want to find a different way to move the money out. So you may have to pay a percentage. Can you pull up what the exit tax is in Canada?
Starting point is 00:17:06 But it's like literally in California, they saw what was going in Canada. They said, we're going to be doing this. And when they started flirting on this, in California, that's when I left. Literally, it was one of the main thing. You saw it coming. Oh, are you kidding me? That's when you wrote your love letter? For every $1 million you make in California, you pay roughly $133,000 that you could keep.
Starting point is 00:17:26 $10 million, $1.33. $100 million, $13.33 million. They keep it. Letter on, they're sitting there saying, what if we get an exit tax? So the one on Canada's calculated based on Deems deposition of your global assets, the rate you must declare any growth capital gains your assets made while you lived in Canada. Usually 50% those capital gains are added to your annual normal income for the fiscal year and then taxed at your standard personal marginal tax. Exemption, many major assets are exempt from this exit tax, including your Canadian real estate, RRSP, TFSA,
Starting point is 00:18:01 and standard personal items like your car or clothing. The $25,000, if the fair market value of all the properties you own, upon leaving exceeds $25,000, you are required. legally to report them to the CRA using the form or face penalties. So if Britain doesn't have that, it's a very dumb sequencing, Tom. If you're going to do it, you first put the exit tax, then you assign the IRS agents to each billionaire, right? At least if you're going to think like a liberal socialist, communist, communists, do it better than this.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Come on, Britain, socialist and communist. Do better. Chris, do you have any thoughts on this story? On the Canadian tax? On the UK, the fact that they're assigning an IRS agent per billionaire to, to collect more money from that. Obviously, it's a terrible idea. Like Tom said, I mean, they're just going to leave.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I mean, take it to move. Why would you stay? Think about it. Why would you? It's almost like they're saying, listen, take your money, take your business, take everything, and get out of here. Why would you do that? I wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Absolutely not. Yeah. You have any unique thoughts on this? Yeah, I do with your brilliant. Well, you know, we always say, all my billionaire friends out there and moving to Miami, you should. You know, they say, follow the money. The UK has literally basically said, let's follow the money.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Literally, let's get a enforcement. government enforcement, surveillance state like you're in China, and you get your very own personal money bodyguard that comes and basically checks your bank account every single day. So billionaires, there's two different options here. Billionaires are the most taxed, but they're also the most mobile people on earth. You could just move.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And we've seen this before. It's not like you said this, I think a few months ago, it's not like the old days where you have a factory and you can tax the factory. wealth is in stocks, it's in crypto, it's in different assets. You know who got me thinking about that? You can move anywhere. You know who got me thinking about that? CZ, the billionaire, a $110 billion guy. Look at him. He said he has 5,000 employees in 40 plus countries. I said, where's your headquarters? We don't have one. Exactly. So what do you mean you don't have one? He says, we don't have a headquarters.
Starting point is 00:19:56 So what do you put your employees in? Wherever's the lowest regulation, lowest tax? They want to go. Whatever you want to go? So this is a, this is the worst time to tax the wealth idea by these folks. Like literally, it's one of the dumbest, ideas to do it in 2026. This would have been a great socialist communist idea to come up with 40 years ago. 30 years ago, not in 2026. Double dumb. Not on a global marketplace. And then can I just add to this guys?
Starting point is 00:20:21 Can you pull up that chart that I sent you? So there's going to people out there, they're going to be like, well, I'm not a billionaire. What would I care? Well, I would assume that you want to become a millionaire. Why are you working? Why are you saving while you're investing? Look at this chart right here. The millionaire migration. What country have the most millionaires
Starting point is 00:20:37 left? It's not even close. It's the UK. You see at the bottom of the list, they're gone. And where are they moving, like Tom said, they're moving to the UAE and they're moving to the USA. So whether it's billionaires or millionaires, you can just flee. Wait, this is a very important chart. If you can zoom in to the bottom, the net, meaning net loss of millionaires, is there a way to zoom in or you can't? It's okay. The lowest one is UK. You don't see it. I need glasses to see what the minus is. What is a minus A? Minus 7.8. Can you get off of it? Yeah. What is the same? right there's 16,000.
Starting point is 00:21:10 16,000 citizens or millions. 100 millionaires in 2020. That's just in one year. In 2025 and who gained it? UAE gained 9800. US gained 7500. Italy gained 3,600. Switzerland 3,000, Saudi 2400. Singapore is 1,600.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Who's losing it? Sweden, Philippines, Turkey, Taiwan, Ireland, Argentina, Pakistan, Norway, Mexico, Colombia, Iran, Nigeria, Indonesia, South Africa, Vietnam. Israel is losing millionaires. Uh-oh. They're losing their millionaires. Germany, Spain, France, Brazil, Russia.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Russia's losing its millionaire. Makes sense. South Korea, India and China. China can't afford to lose some of their millionaires. The biggest thing here is the UK is running laps around the world. It's not like it's that big of a country. And Pat, you know, I'm curious, too? You know that agent that's assigned to you?
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah. Do you think that there's some incentives to him? like, hey, listen, the more you find out, the more you get from this billionaire, the bigger the bonus that you're going to get. Are they playing that game with this person? That's a brilliant idea. I mean, why?
Starting point is 00:22:15 Oh, my God. Like, hey, listen, get as much as you can from him. Right, Adam, get me another 3% off of him. I'm going to give you a raise of $50,000. That means that agent is going to be in the bushes outside of your house like this. You just described the practice of the U.S. IRS audit. That's it, right, Tom?
Starting point is 00:22:31 Keep looking until you find something. There you go. Remember when Biden decided to audit. hired like 80,000 IRS agents, any to something like that? Is that correct in that number? Yeah, I think so. Some crazy amount of number that...
Starting point is 00:22:42 No, that's about right what the number is. I got a question, though. Do you think that these billionaires, like, you really think that they're trying to cheat taxes and stuff like that? I just don't believe it. I just don't think billionaires cheat on taxes? I just don't... I mean, sure, some do, but I just doubt it.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I mean, why? I mean, as far as, like, what are they looking for? I think what they're going to do is, I don't know if the word... is cheat. Some people would say they do, and don't get me wrong, there's probably people that cheat on their taxes. But I think what they do is, they go in higher and spend more money to bring in the right accountants that knows exactly what write-offs they could get. And like in that conversation in the debate with Hillary and Trump, where he says, you know, he didn't pay zero on taxes and
Starting point is 00:23:26 ta-da-da-da-da. He says, you know what? I use the same exact tax code that your billionaire donors use. And if you want to like it, you've been there for 36 years. Why don't you do something about it? But you haven't. So don't bullshit me about what, you know, tax exemptions I'm using. You could do something about it. You haven't. So that's actually a very good question you're asking.
Starting point is 00:23:45 But let's go to the next one. Next topic I want to go to is this story with Patrick Clancy, which I'm going to first go to Sonny Hosten, then I'm going to go to the Patrick Clancy story. They just kind of give you an idea. So Sonny Hosten thought it was a good idea to share and brag about a time what she did to prevent the butcher of Thompson. If you can play, folks, I just want you to think as if this is your friend, your sister,
Starting point is 00:24:12 your mom, your coworker. What would you advise her? Would you say share this story with others or would you say be quiet? At least, think about the story. Go for it. The insanity defense has been around in Massachusetts for 182 years. So I think it's well established. And I thought absolutely that she was not criminally responsible by reason of,
Starting point is 00:24:32 of insanity. And the reason I felt that I feel so strongly about this holdout juror is because I was a holdout juror in a case. In the Daniel Rackowitz case, I don't know if people remember it, the butcher of Tompkins Square Park. It was in 1990. The guy who ate the victims? Yes. You were on that jury? Yes, I was. Yes, I was. And when I... We're going to need to explain more Yes, yes, I was. And when I went to law already. I was, it was before I went to law Oh, because I would have never put you on this. And when I brought it up at the Hot Topics Media, I don't think everyone believed me.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And then my producer looked it up, and I'm in the New York Times. And apparently, several jurors questioned afterwards said one holdout juror was principally responsible. A soncian. Preventing them from returning a guilty verdict. That was me. And it was because I saw clearly that he was psychotic. Of course.
Starting point is 00:25:20 He was in a psychosis. he did not mean to kill her. And once he killed her, he panicked, he chopped up her body parts. Yes, boiled her body parts, tried to commit the perfect crime. And then- He got this guy off? Yeah, yeah, you got him off.
Starting point is 00:25:37 But he fed, that's how much I believe in the insanity defense. And he fed her body parts to the unhoused. Excuse me, can I move over? The unhoused. But all that being said, it was so clear to me in the jury room, and we were sequestered her for nine days, One juror threw a chair at me. They were so angry with me, but one by one, I picked them off and said,
Starting point is 00:25:58 what about this, what about that? And we ended up all 12 unanimously voting that he was not criminally responsible by reason of insanity. But he is still in a mental institution being treated. I don't even know what to say to this right now. Guys, I mean, look, first, how crazy is that? Our team in the back is losing their mind. So you know who cares?
Starting point is 00:26:24 Monica Burling, the girl that was murdered in 1989, what do you think her family feels or thinks about you? Pat, this guy beat her girlfriend to death, chopped her up, boiled her head, boiled the rest of her body parts, got rid of some of the remains in different occasions, and then he cooked some of the flesh into a soup and fed it to the homeless in Tompkins Square Park. Like that, it's unbelievable that she's like,
Starting point is 00:26:50 yeah, he did all. that stuff, but she's proud of this, okay? I don't care what you say. That type of, like, person does not need to be alive. I'm sorry. That's why we have the freaking death penalty. And just look at the, guys, look, I'm not surprised. Look at what Sonny Hosten has proved to us over the years. Okay, her husband, remember, he was named in a massive civil insurance lawsuit. Her son was just arrested the other, what, a month ago, two months ago, for trespassing. She was over there. She's always playing the victim. She's like slaves and this. Remember on that show, Finding Your Roots?
Starting point is 00:27:24 She learned that her family owns slaves. So it's like, I'm tired of, besides the view, just Sonny Hassan every single time, this walking, talking hypocrite contradicted. That's all she does. She's like walking, talking contradiction of everything. And I don't know if she, was she a prosecutor, Tom, or defense lawyer? I would hate to have her as my freaking, as my lead counsel. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Unbelievable. I'm shocked. first of all, I am embarrassed for them that on the view, they're talking about this level of tragedy, and if they really care about this guy and his insanity and being behind bars, why aren't they talking about the cost of the taxpayer? And they're sitting there, you know, are they thinking about the friends or the family that may have known this victim that are watching the view kind of be giddily talking about it? And oh my gosh, it was such a crazy day. I was this holdout juror.
Starting point is 00:28:20 It is a privilege to be on jury duty in America. It is your obligation. You register to vote. You're registering to be part of a jury, to be part of a group of peers to let our system do what it's supposed to do. And you don't come back later laughing about the fact that, you know, oh, you know, it was such a crazy day for this guy. I don't find it funny.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I don't find it humorous. And I find it really, really vener. that she sits there and speaks like this as if it's some, you know, just, you know, speeding ticket, you know, cop's word against the motorist word, you know, this is a horrifying, horrifying crime that they just made light of in this here. And I just don't get it. I don't get it. How can your heart be so deep that you can just conduct yourself like this? All this for viewable TV? I guess so. And by the way, the story when you look at this.
Starting point is 00:29:20 This was a, in 1991 newspaper, covered this, because a lot of people are saying, was she the one that caused it? Hosten's legal name at the time was Assumcione Cummings. Okay, so the New York Times article, contemporary 1991 newspaper coverage quotes, Assumption Cummings as a juror in the case. So she was a part of it. And then when she says,
Starting point is 00:29:41 I was the holdout juror in the Daniel Rockowitz case, that's when things get complicated. contemporary New York Daily News and Associated Press reported on this February of 1991 described the principal hold that as an unemployed man
Starting point is 00:29:59 juror Valerie Holmes reportedly said that the man enjoyed receiving the $15 a day jury payment and was willing to deliberate to keep deliberating because he kept making the $15 a day that was being paid at that time
Starting point is 00:30:16 and then another report Newsday apparently said that there were two holdout jurors so she could have been one of the two. I just think it's a weird story to brag about the fact that this guy went out there and did this and you're bragging that, oh, he didn't know what he was doing. He was mentally ill. He was, man, this is what we're living today. Yeah, that's who she is. And, back, remember the clip that I told you before we came in here?
Starting point is 00:30:34 In 2014, I guess she was on Anderson Cooper. And she left, she admits she left her 14-month-old in the car because she was defending another guy, Tom, that left his baby in the car for seven hours strapped to a car scene and he died. Did you play this clip? Tragic. What do you make of this? I mean, clearly there seems to be details. We don't yet know more about this guy's history, about his attitudes.
Starting point is 00:30:57 There's a lot we still don't know. I think that's right. I mean, certainly it's a tragedy, and we can all agree about that. But we don't know some facts. I mean, I want to know, was there a history of abuse? Was there some sort of bitter divorce or custody battle going on? What was his typical schedule? So I think there are just a lot of unanswered questions.
Starting point is 00:31:19 But you say, I mean, I read something that you wrote, I think, on CNN.com about that you have done this. I mean, a lot of parents do this. Yeah, and this story became very personal for me because I did write an opinion piece on CNN. I left my daughter when she was 14 months old in the back of our car. And I was with my husband. And it was a hot July day. And literally, Anderson, my husband left her in the car. I left her in the car.
Starting point is 00:31:45 we went to get a shopping car we took the shopping car past the car went into Home Depot I went into the garden center and it was only after about five minutes that my husband came to me and said oh my god we left Paloma in the car and she was fine but I will tell you I'm still ashamed about it I'm embarrassed I'm horrified
Starting point is 00:32:03 and I can see how someone could do this had you asked me these questions prior to when I did this this horrible thing and guess what you'll pause it and guess what God forbid your kid died you should be in jail. You shouldn't have somebody trying to be like, well, where was their mind at?
Starting point is 00:32:20 Was she worried about something else? No, you made, you did the crime, you have to do the time. So this, I love this because this just shows a history of this nonsense. And it doesn't surprise me that she'd be lying about being a holdout juror. She's, she's one of the worst that we have out there. And I love what Tom said about being ashamed, that the view should be ashamed of this, hellspat,
Starting point is 00:32:40 that they have something like this on the show. Adam. Seriously. Look, I don't, I literally never watch. the views. The only time I see clips of the view is when we show them on this show. But I'll tell you this. I'm, I love women. I'm starting to really worry about women in society today, especially in America. Because we talk about men needing better role models. Who are the female role models these days? Like, where are they getting their news? Where are they getting women getting their information?
Starting point is 00:33:06 And again, love you women out there. But you're getting your news and your information. and the most watch shows are The View. Rachel Maddow, call her daddy. You're listening to Candace Owens. You're listening to Scooby-Doo murder mysteries. And you're watching Dommer on Netflix. And this is where you're getting your information,
Starting point is 00:33:25 ladies, liberal ladies. I think women need to take a step back and say, wow, what am I actually consuming in my life? Because if every day you're waking up and watching The View, or you're watching Candace, or you're watching Call Her Daddy, tell me how your life is improving from this. you're polluting your brain
Starting point is 00:33:43 and next thing you know you're defending Lindsay Clancy publicly basically saying that she's a great person this is the modern woman I would clarify that it's not the majority but a lot of liberal women they have nothing to do they sit home all day and they have to
Starting point is 00:33:59 come up with stuff to be like they latch on to all these movements I think you're right I wish it was just liberal women I think it's just women in general well I would say a lot of these liberal women because well who do you think the view if they if the views camera turned around and showed the audience.
Starting point is 00:34:13 What kind of people you think are in there? It isn't Republican women because of either at home raising the family or they're at work. That's what the hell is going on. That's the truth. Yeah. Crazy story. Chris, do you have any thoughts on this?
Starting point is 00:34:24 No, not really. I mean... These guys got six kids. I mean, you know, what does your wife think about the story? Lindsay,
Starting point is 00:34:30 she, well, obviously, totally disagrees with, you know, her being insane. I mean, it's, I mean, obviously she's insane. I mean, she killed three of her kids.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I mean, as far as the insanity goes for any case for me, I think it should not even be a part of it, really. I mean, obviously you're crazy. If you're going to kill somebody, kill kids. I mean, you know, leaving the kid in the car. I mean, I've seen videos of people maybe, you know, I mean, maybe it could happen, but I just, I just, I can't see how. I mean, you know, I saw a video one time of a grandmother and she actually was watching one. She had two grandkids. She was watching one. He drowned on her watch. He was like two years old. And then a year later, the daughter, you know, had her watch another one of her kids, left her in the car.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Killed two of her grandkids. Craziest thing ever. But like I said, the older lady, I mean, I think she just forgot, you know, but so what? You know, life has consequences. Yeah, that's rough. I saw that. Have you seen that? Yeah, I saw it.
Starting point is 00:35:29 It was crazy, man. I heard the 911 call. Yeah. That's what I heard. And they were like, what? One day, Jennifer calls me. And she's crying. I said, what's going on, babe?
Starting point is 00:35:39 She was at the funeral of a mother who left the kitchen door open and their toddler, whatever, you know, 16 months, 17 months, went out, fell in the pool, she goes out five minutes, dead. Oh, my God. The toddler. The toddler. At the funeral. They get a divorce, by the way.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Dylan was feeling so bad because I think he had a sister. and every day he would walk her from class to class because he felt so bad for what was going on and he would pray for them every. Dylan, you're Dylan? My daughter. So this is like a real story? This is a real story. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Jen calls me, she says, babe, I can't be at this funeral. I hear the mother in the background. This is like eight years ago. It says eight years ago. We were in Dallas, so it's got to be six years ago. I heard the mother in the back, seven years ago, mother in the background screaming of pain because she took the blood. blame. Like it's my fault. I did this, right? I mean, these are some painful. Like, we have a few friends that moved here and I said to them, I said, whatever you do, whatever you do, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:52 the doors being left open, all that other stuff, whatever you do, teach your young kids how to swim very, very, very early. There's a program called ISR or whatever it is, and that's what we did. It was they would throw the kid in the pool and a video got 110 million views and we started taking every one of the kids. Every one of our kids learn how to swim between 15 to 20 months old. Oh, really? That young is all. Every one of our kids. Every one of our kids. They teach them to turn over. This is not something that's at all to take lightly. As a parent, you have to take this. I've heard people cry. There's different types of crying. That was the most difficult cry for me to listen to because you felt the guilt that I could have pretext.
Starting point is 00:37:39 event at this. Oh my God. So when you're telling me that thing, you know, I mean, this is going on. By the way, you guys have the clip with Patrick Clancy who is doing an interview with 60 minutes. And in the interview, they're asking him, hey, do you have any dreams? Do you have any dreams? And look at the way he's answering this. And if he still sees, you know, the kids in the dreams, just watch the way he's speaking about
Starting point is 00:38:04 the story he's telling. Go for it. Do you dream about them? Yeah. All the time. Tell me a good dream. I remember early on having a dream, maybe six months or a year after.
Starting point is 00:38:21 And I'm in the kitchen at the house, and Coral walks in. And I just look at her, and it was like, I basically just said, where have you been? And she comes up to me and gives me a big hug. Those dreams are so real. Lucid.
Starting point is 00:38:38 It's like I'm, lucid in those dreams. And by the way, you know, this is a guy, his profile, that looks like a guy that doesn't even want to be on camera. Yeah. Don't talk to me. Not in a bad way. Like, did I just want to live my regular life?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Word just came out. They announced, obviously, this was many, many years ago when this incident happened. He met a girl a little over a year later. They ended up getting married, and they're expecting a baby. They just announced they're expecting a baby, and he specifically said he looks forward to telling their child about Cora Dawson and Callan, his three children who died in 2023, referring to them as the child's older brothers and sisters. My goodness. That's the first time I've heard him speak. Have you heard him speak before? Well, in the 60 Minutes interview, there's a lot more stuff to it, what he says.
Starting point is 00:39:37 but you you now he's the villain they make him the villain and she's the innocent one that didn't do this is this is a little too much much money did they raise for her i think over a million dollars i don't know i don't know if it was a million but it was a lot but what what drives me crazy is the people out there that are like no he like he had to he had to have something to do with it because look how he's acting afterwards okay and mind you i don't have any kids i don't i don't know i can't even imagine the loss that's the number one that the worst emotion that a human being could go through is losing your child. That's statistically, that's what they say, right?
Starting point is 00:40:12 How is he supposed to act? Is he supposed to be in a basement in the dark and wanting to kill himself? By the way, this happened years ago, right? He has to... The last thing I think this guy wants to do is sit there all day and think about it, sit in that house, do this. Of course he's going to sell the house. Of course he's going to try to move on because you have to think of other things.
Starting point is 00:40:31 But again, Adam, you talked about those freaking liberal women that are sitting home that are like, nope, the pink hair, pink shirts, out there. No, she's the victim. Not the babies, not the babies, not the husband that came home screaming, screaming, and having to be in the hospital and being there with the eight-month-old that's freaking dying in his freaking arms. He's not the victim. It's her. It's Lindsay, who's never, didn't want to show her face of the camera. And in the courtroom, when she does, you saw, I saw evil in her, okay? And I love that you said that, bro. I love that you said that Chris about they're crazy. Of course you're crazy. To make him leave, to kill him.
Starting point is 00:41:07 all of them and then try to jump out the window. Now all these other women are trying to copycat. Give me a freaking break, bro. Buy me a river. What's this right here? This Musgrove Family Fund. Is this the GoFundMe for Lindsay Clancy? Is that what this guy? Apparently, the, um, my two million. One point two, four, five million. And originally the goal was a million. And they just raised it to three million as the goal. I don't know if she's going to raise it. And Patrick Clancy within a week of the incident that happened in 2023, 15,000 donors helped raise a million dollars for Patrick Clancy. So Patrick got it within a week when it happened for both of them raised over a million dollars. It's a, you know, and I even think
Starting point is 00:41:50 about now the conversation with the new wife. He married a lady who's a doctor, the new wife, Dr. Rachel Dannis. What do you think that conversation sounds like? Oh, my God. Can't even imagine what they're talking about. Imagine the 101 questions to ask before you get engaged. What are you asking her? Hey, would you do me a favor? And when we have a kid, not hurt them? I'm being dead. I'm being, and you know sometimes in life, certain events happen that changes, you know, like when you hire somebody that comes and takes advantage of you, and it's a bad employee.
Starting point is 00:42:21 What do you do? You always add a new question that you're asking interviews, okay? Or you had a bad employer. You always ask an additional question when you have a, you know, when you go into the company, certain things that's important to you, right? Okay. This event is such a big event in this lifetime right now while young single men are going through it. This event added one question every man now asks a girl before they give him the ring. What do you think about this case?
Starting point is 00:42:48 That's all it is. Not even who do you sidewood. What do you think about the case? What do you think? It's all you got to ask. Because say you're dating a girl and you ask you the question. She doesn't give you an answer like you. You're going to come.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Let's just say we're friends and you come and say, Pat, hey, this girl I talk to, she said this. What do you think? I'm like, Vinny, you're serious? Yeah. What do you think about it? I don't think I can do it. Have you told her yet? No, I think I'm telling them.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I'm breaking it off this week. This became one of those moments where every single man who is single about to propose must ask this question before you get married. Because when you're, imagine you're at work and your girl said, I think she's innocent. And she's with the kids at home. What are you thinking about all day? Oh, man. No way. Hey, yeah, I'm going to be taking care of him.
Starting point is 00:43:31 You know what? I'm really having some thoughts. What do you mean you're having some thoughts? This has messed some people up. This has messed some people up. So anyways, our prayers are with Patrick Clancy. And, man, this is just a very, yeah. I mean, it's not.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I got a question for you, Pat, though. You say it on me on video, like, what's the reasoning to even do the interview? I mean, why even go out there? Him? Yeah. I mean, just. You're asking a fair question. I mean, I don't think I would ever want to do that.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Is it from, I mean, what's the? I mean, maybe to help other people, but man. I think that's what people say. Like, when I think about why people talk, I think what the reporter says is, look, I know this is the last thing you want to do, but you're actually being an example for others that are going through this because they want to hear your side of the store. Like, when we were selling life insurance and we would have death benefits that would happen
Starting point is 00:44:29 that somebody's relative would die, they never wanted to go on stage and tell the story. But I would always say, listen, If you don't, you don't have to. I totally get it. If you do, it just shows how powerful it is what we do for families. It says a life-changing industry. Most people don't think about it.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I've been in a lot of different rooms where you're delivering checks to families who bought a life insurance policy. And it allows them to mourn. It gives them dignity to not have to make an emotional decision. And I saw sometime where a man was like, no, I don't need it. And then the woman was forced to marry a regular guy and, you know, abusive man that you be with because he was a jerk. but he left him no money and she was the homemaker.
Starting point is 00:45:06 So to me, I think that's the story that a reporter would say to get the individual to want to talk. Because you can obviously tell he doesn't want to do this. No, definitely. What fame does he get? Does he go out and say, follow me on Instagram for more? No, no. He's not doing this. I mean, you think they're paying him?
Starting point is 00:45:19 I'm just curious. No. No. No. I think at this point, it's just, no. I don't think he's getting it. By the way, I've heard many of those types of discussions after the fact where it, and they said it's the best thing that's ever happened to me.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Thank God my husband or thank God so-and-so. left me this life insurance policy. But if I had to put myself in Patrick Clancy's shoes, if you don't tell your story, the world or the people that hate you are going to tell your story. So you have to speak. As much as it's painful and as much as it's something you don't generally want to be doing on camera, you have to tell your side of the story.
Starting point is 00:45:51 By the way, same for the juror, the Michael guy, the black guy, the conservative guy. He's starting to speak now because the world's been telling his story. He goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Has he been speaking, though? He's been speaking a little bit. It's coming out. I've not seen. I've seen his brother speak on his behalf and other representatives.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And to answer you, Chris, maybe, because I think I read that he's a Catholic, he's a Christian. Maybe he wants other people to see that even going through this unimaginable tragedy from his wife, that he still hasn't lost faith in God. And that if somebody else is going through it, you're going to go through it. But you can tell he doesn't want it. He's broken. He looks like exactly what happened to him. And he's just maybe just to tell people like, listen, I went through it.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I still haven't lost faith and I'm still here. And imagine how much he wants to be a father to go through that, to have your three kids killed, to say, you know what? I want to be a father that bad that I want to try again. I don't know. Okay, let's go to next story. Let's go to next story. Next door I'm going to get to is Tom this morning says 30-year mortgage rates are at 7.5,
Starting point is 00:46:53 even if you got a 750 score. I said, what did you say, Tom? He says, yes, that's right. 30-year mortgage rates right now are 7.5, even if you got a 750 credit score in some markets. And so, Tom, I'll read the store and I'll come to you. Mortgage rates hit highest in 20 months, okay? 20 months. The average rate on 30-year fixed right now is 7.03, the highest in 20 months and up more than a percentage point since the Iran war began late February. Freddie Mac shows data rates last top 7% in January 2025. Each percentage point rise adds thousands, two tens of thousands
Starting point is 00:47:27 of dollars in annual borrowing costs depending on the home price. And the climb tracks the surge in oil prices and treasury yields with a key treasury rate hitting its highest level in years and amid inflation fears. The timing is brutal for the administration housing affordability, was already the country's source spot and the war-driven rate spike is pricing out exactly the first-time homebuyers. Both parties claim to champion with the midterms weeks away, the 7% print turns the affordability crisis from a talking point into a monthly payment, Tom. So the 30-year mortgage Whenever you see, you know, the tenure and you see them talking about the tenure. And let me look at the gap here.
Starting point is 00:48:08 The gap right now on the 10-year treasury, take two percentage points. So, Vinnie, whenever you see a headline that says 10-year treasury suddenly at five in a quarter, just say to yourself, wow, that means mortgages are at least seven in a quarter. Oh, damn. You just add two points to it. Yep. They're lined up together. And so right now, it's even more difficult. What you have, we also mentioned that Florida had the most number of homes for sale.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Well, one of the reason the most number of homes for sale is the people willing to sell them, have them on the market, but people can't afford to buy them. And also, Florida also still has a bit of an insurance crisis on homeowners insurance. So headline, Florida's got more homes for sale anybody else. Well, you have to go look around Orlando and Lakeland, and they overbuilt that area. And with people conserving on spending and going to Disneyland, Disney World, some of the jobs that were in Orlando a little bit constrained. And so you don't have as many houses for sale.
Starting point is 00:49:10 But right now, Pat, this is tough times. We have 4.3 million homes right now on the market, okay? 2008, when the crash hit, and we all saw the video of what was going on in Riverside County with 64% of homes were, you know, empty. And it was just a very, we saw the movie, and what was a movie called? The big short, right? The big short. And of the 4.3 million per capita, the state that has the most homes right now for sale is the state of Florida.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I think Carolina's top five. But Florida is one of them. I think Florida has one of the biggest plus minuses on value going up the last five, five and a half years since COVID. And so. But there's three Florida's Panhandle. There's for sale. Central Florida, there's a boatload for sale in Orlando. And then you get down to Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade County known as the Gold Coast.
Starting point is 00:49:59 and the for sale rates are consistent where they were before COVID. So it's really a tale of three cities in Florida, but there's a ton for sale. Why do you think Orlando is getting hit the most? Orlando, they reacted and they gave fast permits, and they hyper-reacted to what they believed was going to be job growth up there, and there has not met as much job growth up there. And the people moving to Florida are moving down to Palm Beach, Broward, and South Florida, the people moving with jobs.
Starting point is 00:50:28 The people without jobs tend right now go to more to Tampa. Tampa insurance is crazy because the insurance rates went up after those two hurricanes over the last four years. So Central Florida, they overbuilt. The jobs didn't show up there. So you're getting discounts in Central Florida a lot for sale if you can afford the 7.5%. And South Florida, prices are down a little bit, but not bad. In Miami right now, there are 12-month supply of condos for sale today, 12.7. If you're going to go down by a condo at today's sale rates, there's 12.7 months of supply.
Starting point is 00:51:03 For where? This is Miami? Yep, Dade County condos. Tell me what that means, 12.7 months. Means if you took the number of condos sold this month, it would take 12 months like that to sell everyone that's for sale right now. How did they calculate that? They basically look at the number that are being sold right now per month, and they look at the total that are for sale, and they divide it. So if there's $1,200 for sale and you're selling $100 a month, that means they'll take 12 months to sell about. But this is not a bad time to buy a penthouse in Miami.
Starting point is 00:51:34 You could get a good discount on a penthouse in Miami. As long as you're in one of the better buildings that's been inspected and your HOA isn't way up because they're anticipating maintenance. As long as the balconies are locked and all like that's what I'm saying. That's a good risk is going to be on. I don't worry you out with this. Yeah. Well, look, buying a house right now isn't that expensive. the money that you need for a mortgage is expensive.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Does it a difference. So I have a little checklist that I've used before, and I recommend that most, especially young men out there who are considering buying a house, factor this in. Do you want a house or do you need a house? I speak to a lot of guys out there like, I really want a house, I really want to buy a house.
Starting point is 00:52:14 It's like, yeah, I know that you want that you want that, but is that actually something you need and can you actually even afford that? So what I recommend, and I would highly recommend, recommend this, is rent, save that money, save the difference, invest over the next three to five years so your wealth can accumulate, so you can save up for a down payment. And when rates go down or there's a buyer's market at that point, then you can buy. I always just say this, unless you absolutely need to buy the house, just rent, save the difference, and circle back.
Starting point is 00:52:42 That's my advice. Yeah, if you do the math per percent, Tom, per percent of rates going up on a million dollars is what per percent a thousand dollars give or take something like that yeah a month so per percent if you take give or take it could be 1200 but everything included so you know if you're if you're looking at a million dollar home at 3 percent you're looking at 3,000 dollars a month 4 percent 4K month 5 percent 5K month 6 percent 6K month 7 percent 7 K month 7 and a half percent for million dollars 7500 dollars a month that's crazy just so you know we still got taxes and everything too on top of that. And maintenance and insurance.
Starting point is 00:53:21 And the $7,500 a month is after-tax money, which pre-tax money to have $7,500, you've got to divide times 0.3. So if you take $7,500 a month right now, divided by $3 is what? Point three. To make... $500? No, no, it's divided. So it ends up becoming...
Starting point is 00:53:39 So you're looking at around $10,000 a month you need to make. Let's just say $30,000 taxes you're paying, $10,800 a month you need to make. To have the net $7,500, to make that more... mortgage payment. So it is a weird time. I will tell you, if I was a buyer right now, I would use that as leverage, and I would ask better questions from the realtor. So I would ask the realtor, my realtor, I would say, hey, can you ask the sellers, how motivated are there? And are the, sellers moving to another house? Are they going to rent? What is the life change? Like, when I walked into the house we bought, I know this is going to sound weird. The first thing I did is I went
Starting point is 00:54:11 into the master bedroom because they were still, they're still living there, and I went to the closets. And one side of the closet, all the, you know, women's shoes were there. The other side of the closet, there was no man's shoes. Oh, gotcha. I'm just saying, this was a house I'm looking at in Dallas, and I'm like, hey, if one side of the closet, it's only women's shoes, all this stuff with the guy wasn't there, and it's an open closet. You can't have an idea. This is a lot. So that is a, and as much as it's, because we, you know, you can be on both sides as you're going through it. As a seller, you don't want the buyer to know that that's what's going on. So the buyer today has to have a better lens to look at. If you got a better lens, I actually think there's opportunities today.
Starting point is 00:54:52 I actually think there's opportunities today. Because unfortunately, what happens when there's financial stress? People sell. Why do that? What happens when people have financial stress? Life change events happen. Typically what gets affected first? Their marriage. And if the marriage gets affected, what is the wife asking for? Money. And where's most of people's money tied to? In their house. So guess what he has to do? And if he sells it, guess where he has to do? And if he sells it, guess where he has to move to. He has to move to an apartment. Because the 80% of people, when they're going through this, they don't have the livelihood to go just buy another house. At that time, all they're thinking about is, I just need an apartment. I want to get this thing over with. That's the mentality. I want
Starting point is 00:55:29 to get this thing over with. I'm going to get, it's like the scene from wedding crashers. Listen, we want to throw some miles our way. But unfortunately, when it happens, the person that's going through it, the main thing on their mind, guess what they're saying? The line is, I just want this to be overweight. They can just break even a lot of times. That's right.
Starting point is 00:55:51 So in those moments, unfortunately, like there's a lot of people that are buyers of companies. Guess what kind of companies they buy? Distressed. The stress companies.
Starting point is 00:55:59 That's their specialty. They come in and they build it up. That's a massive business model. It's like I have a buddy of mine is very big in real estate in Miami and he goes, I don't buy real estate. I rob real estate. All I do is look at the foreclosure.
Starting point is 00:56:11 That's a different story. He's going to go, hanging, spend some time with... He gets distressed assets and he sells them, but you actually motivated me. I'm going to go looking in houses as a prospective buyer. I'm going to go into the closet. You will never look at the house the same way. And I'm going to go into the guy's closet and I'm going to go get some new clothes out there.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Maybe that's a nice little come-up out there. But you'll see when you go in, unfortunately, the seller's job is not to tell you anything. Yeah, yeah. And the buyer's job is to not say any motivation to him that you like them. Like when you go to the house and if I take my kids, oh my God, I love this house. Can we move here?
Starting point is 00:56:49 I'm like, I just told this room. Be quiet. I have to buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. You don't take your kids. We want to look at one of the houses. Oh, yeah. Pat's like, bad's like, go chuckle. I walked by something like the theater.
Starting point is 00:57:00 It was amazing. And the guys like, huh? And I'm like this. I just walked out. I just walked out. You know who else doesn't know how to do that? Malva doesn't know how to do that. I'm like, Daddy look at this.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Daddy look. And kids don't know how to do it. This is great. Is it going to be my room? You could be looking at a high-end house and a nice community. You got the poker face. And then you look in the backyard and two of your three kids are in the pool. In the swimming pool fully clothed.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Been there. Never happens. They seem to like the backyard. We looked at a house in Stonebriar, which was in Frisco. Where, you know, a guy named Donnie Nelson was telling me, hey, you may want to come and look at this place. The son of the coach. And so we go look at this community.
Starting point is 00:57:42 And we look at one house that had a lazy liver in the backyard. A lazy liver? Lazy river. So I'm sitting. I like lazy livers as well. But so I go, I'm Middle Eastern, but so we go there and I tell Tico and Dillon in the car, hey, listen to me, guys, I'm telling you right now, you cannot jump this house as a lazy river. I want to be able to trust that I'm bringing you here.
Starting point is 00:58:04 You guys can't jump in. Know that. Why would we jump in? I said, great. Because if you jump in, there's pop-out. I'm not going to jump in. And we know we don't want no pow-pows. So we go, and they see the lazy river,
Starting point is 00:58:17 and all you see is their eyes get this big. And they're looking at me. I'm like, Deli, Tico, I told you. And you know who starts it? You know who gets the other one to do it? I bet you can't guess which one gets the other one to do it. Tico told you talk to do it. So here's what happens.
Starting point is 00:58:31 So then I'm like, guys, just go over there to shoot a basketball, go over there, you know, look at some of those streets. So we go inside the house. And I'm on the second floor master bedroom. They're showing me that, what do you call it? the balcony. I'm outside. All I see is Tico and Dillon Dillon and the lazy river going around and we didn't bring towels.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Oh, my God. And you're going to go into the escalate. I'm like, these freaking kids, I'm like, what are you doing? Dad, this is great. This is awesome. I'm like, these kids, man. So I don't know where they get it from, but they're a little rebellious. All right, let's go to the next door.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Can't even imagine where they get that from. I mean, you know, it is what it is. So let's go to the next story. Next door I want to get to is, let's actually go ahead at the, what do you call it, the UN stories, and I want to get into this Boston Globe, but before we do so, for those of you that love the color chocolate, as much as I do, which I love, if you want to
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Starting point is 01:00:39 Go to FLB.com. Place your order. That's all I'm wearing right now myself. Let's get to the next door. Next door I want to get to is the UN. President gets up, a few moments that we need to get into, President gets up, and he looks at the President of Iran Pasechkian, who is there. And he tells him, listen, I can annihilate Iran, but I choose not to, okay? He's trying to tell him, I'm a noble man if you got the clip, and he's looking at everybody while he's saying this, and he's calling everybody out.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Everybody out. Go forward. that lets them rebuild and create a far greater country than it ever was before, maybe one of the greatest in the Middle East or even the world. Or do I annihilate the Islamic Republic and do it quickly, never giving them a chance to kill and destroy people and countries again? Do I drive them into hell with no chance of survival and no hope of future greatness or generation? But I believe we'll make a deal right after the election, because it doesn't make sense for them not to. They're waiting to see how I do in the midterm election.
Starting point is 01:01:58 What they don't realize is that I'm not running. I did that already, and won in a landslide. We won in a giant landslide, and I'll be here for two and a half years. The Republican Party is running, and I'll be helping them. but I am not running. I gave absolutely no credence and will not give credence to the election
Starting point is 01:02:21 when it comes to Iran. It doesn't even enter my mind. The only thing that does is that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. So this is the speech he's given out. The cowards and traitors. Look at the clapping, by the way.
Starting point is 01:02:38 So they're agreeing with what he has to say, the cowards and traitors. Then Pezeshkin comes up and he's given the speech. And here's what Pazitschkin has to say. I don't know if you have the Pazitschkin clip or not when he hits the state. This is what he has to say. Go forward. To present to you yesterday, the United States president described us as terrorists. We have been the victims of terrorism. Yeah. I come from an Iran in which our esteemed supreme leader was assassinated without any legal framework or reason.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I come from an Iran where in truth, they bombed a school. You see these children? These children perished under bombs. With weapons used by the United States and Israel, they were innocent, had committed no crimes. Lamert, one of the small... Okay, so that's the speech that he gives.
Starting point is 01:03:59 He conveniently left out the fact that his regime killed tens of thousands of their own people. Let's just brush that aside and talk about what Trump did. Go ahead. Yeah. He's the terrorist. The reality of it is the allies that they have. Marco Rubio, I sent a clip yesterday about what Marco Rubio said. And Besson, there's two clips.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I don't know if we have it or not. I don't know if you guys got it or not. I don't bring it up this morning. So if you got it, you pull it up. Great. If you don't, I get it as well. where he says, look, here's what's going on. And this is why I like Marco Rubio.
Starting point is 01:04:28 He gives a very complicated story in a way that you need to, it's chewable, but it's tough to, matter of fact, I want you to watch this one here. Besson, watch this one what Besson says. Do you have the Bessent one? This is the Bessent one if you have that. Play this one first. Okay, Besson explains what they're doing to Iran. A lot of people are not getting on the back end how it's.
Starting point is 01:04:54 challenging it is. And I'm going to come to you guys for you guys to share your thoughts. And I'm going to go to the next clip on what happened you went. Because the BD1 is very interesting. But if you can pull up this clip, this is Besson. On the types of pain they're bringing to Iran right now. Okay, if you have it, pull it up. I just send it to you guys. It should be fairly easy. There you go. Watch this. Watch what he says here. Go ahead. Can you start from the beginning and turn on the audio so we can listen to? Because guys, you're on it with the mouse. If you can just, okay, go back, go for it. Just so you know, we know the where in the British Virgin Islands, your accounts are, at these trust companies, we know the $100 million houses you have around the world, and we are going to freeze those.
Starting point is 01:05:42 We are going to, our partners, we are going to close all of that down. So we are going to go after the regime's illegitimate assets that they have stolen from the Iranian people, and those can go back to the Iranian people, or they can go to the Iranian people, or they can go to the, victims of terror, like the families of the soldiers who are on the USS Coal or in the Lebanese barracks, but we will stop this regime's ability to have a nuclear weapon, to have their current highly enriched uranium, to project terrorist power through their proxy networks, and to terrorize the Gulf. So after 47 years, it is over. By the way, you can pause right there are two people in the administration that you know when they talk, they don't play games.
Starting point is 01:06:35 One is Bessant. He will punch you, even if you're the richest fan of the world. He doesn't hold back. Allegedly he will. Yeah, he will. I'm just saying. I'm just saying like if he is that guy. And number two is Marco Rubio.
Starting point is 01:06:46 They're literal people. They're not thinking about campaign and presidential 2028 and let me go lose some weight on all this. I'm not saying anybody else. I'm just saying they're thinking about what in general. Like it's not bad to lose. I've lost 30 pounds. this year. You look great. I've lost, I've literally lost them. I won from 259 to 229. He's a biker. Go ahead. And every morning, you want to find me, I'm biking. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 01:07:06 so when they're talking about this and the president's given that message, Tom, to Iran, Pazetka is sitting there. One, how close you think it is? And do you think anybody's listened to Pazchkaan and saying, oh, poor guy, look what happened to him? Do you think the world is looking at Peschkaan and sympathizing with what happened to their people? The world does not, but you have people like, um, Christine Lagarde in the EU, which oddly, strangely, you know, anti-capitalist and also, you know, somehow finds victimhood in those that would, you know, commit violence. So I think there's a few.
Starting point is 01:07:45 But what the world heard, and Trump was very careful in speech, he wanted to make sure that they heard, is this going to happen after the election because these guys are trying to wait me out. I don't care. We'll get the deal done and you guys are going to wait until after the election. That's them. So he's sort of putting the world on notice saying, hey, we would deal with these guys, but they won't deal. So number one. And number two, when Peskin comes up there, it's like, wait a minute. Okay, a school was bombed. And it looks like these innocent kids died. that's a tragedy, but that's a tragedy of war. And it's a tragedy of war that started, not in February with the first bombs, but that started
Starting point is 01:08:34 with these proxy networks and the undermining and the creating of war by Iran. So it may have been the latest round that started in February. But you know what? I'll tell you, this started before that. And I think that when he stands there, people say that is a tragedy of war that shouldn't happen. That's terrible. On one hand. On the other hand, you sit there and say, this thing didn't start in February, dude.
Starting point is 01:09:01 You guys started it way back, and you've been doing it for 47 years. Don't act innocent. Don't act innocent of what you're doing. You killed your own people. So think about it. If you want to make the claim that America killed other people, which, by the way, what they did is that property that they were in, allegedly was a former military property. So on the maps when they were given the intel, it wasn't updated.
Starting point is 01:09:22 So they used a military property to make it a school, and they hit it and use it. So some people are even saying they knew this could happen, but they needed a story to get the world to sympathize with them. They've hidden behind their own citizens for decades. Yeah, it's a tragic, tragic story. But that's the enemy doing it. Exactly. When you kill your own people, then what is that? Adam, your thoughts on that, by the way, on that point?
Starting point is 01:09:45 And you turn off the internet so your own people, can't communicate to the media and the press. It's a noble community people. Correct. You shut the internet off and start slaughtering the dissidents. Adam. Look, I think the overreaching story is that the UN has become a complete joke.
Starting point is 01:10:03 You know, anyone that's been following the UN, you know, appreciates at least what the UN was supposed to be doing. You know, I think it was formed in 1945 right during the end of the World War II. And it was to, number one, prevent another World War from happening.
Starting point is 01:10:18 But also to just bring in people to talk around a big conference table to avoid any issues. Now, in 2026, you have dictators, autocrats, supreme leaders, thugs coming in, standing at the podium, and lecturing democracies about how they should be operating. So the UN has completely lost its way. It's become a banana republic at this point where you have actual thugs who have never faced zero election, basically control their people. There's no freedom of press. There's no freedom of human rights. And they come in and say, this is how you need to act everybody.
Starting point is 01:10:57 This is how you need to operate everybody. It's like, didn't you just kill your own people, buddy? Haven't you been jailing any journalist in your country that is a dissident? Hey, Putin, you know, somehow people are conveniently thrown out windows just magically. But you want to lecture democracies and free people how to operate. You know, one of the things that I've learned since being here, I never really understood this term, this globalist term. Oh, he's a globalist. He's a globalist. At this point, I don't want America abiding by anybody's rules other than America. So another thing that I want to bring out, you know, Trump basically said a couple of major things.
Starting point is 01:11:41 He said, as far as Iran, he said the following. I have no interest in leaving the deal. dangers that grow from Iran to grow and fester for another day. I do not believe in letting problems fester. They only become harder to solve. So while others have talked, I have acted. That's Trump's words. So basically saying, I'm not going to wait for the next administration to deal with Iran. I'm going to go ahead and take the lead here. He said, I believe in no global government at all. I think the ICC, the international criminal court is a rogue institution. And it should be, everyone should resign. Basically, he came. up there and gave a speech and said,
Starting point is 01:12:19 you suck, you suck, you suck, you're cool, let's go, let's get out of here. And then you have Posseschian come up there and basically try to flip the entire narrative and pretend that he's the good guy. You left out skimming foreign aid dollars that these thugs also do. And the last thing I'll say about,
Starting point is 01:12:35 and I'll just say this, I've never met or seen another country organization that pretends to almost negotiate and maybe we'll do a meeting and eventually maybe we'll have a discussion. There's no deal happening with these people in Iran. There's plenty of them out there. There's plenty of them. They're not. How do you mean?
Starting point is 01:12:56 You've never met another country that says they want to negotiate, but they don't get anything done. It's all talk. This is the number. This is the leader. There is plenty of countries that do that. That's the part of the game. They just wait too. If I'm the enemy, guess what I say? These are Americans. You got four more years. Stop. You're not that tough.
Starting point is 01:13:13 You got two more. I'll outlive you. You're going to be gone. I got control. you have what I don't have. I got 20 years to go make change. You only got four years. And if you're lucky, you got two years because your midterms, you don't have as long as you got American system. You don't have as long as you think you have. I fully agree with you. The only thing that I'll say is the differences. Everyone else acts in their own rational best interest, whether it's China, whether it's Russia. That part I agree. These people are such ideologues that there's no negotiating. They're waiting for the world to end for their 12th Shia imam to show up. And listen, I'm anti-war. I hate war. I was in the United States Air Force. 9-11 happened. They lied to us. Weapons of mass destruction. People went over there. My brother was deployed. I hate it. And I wish to God that we lived in a perfect world where none of the war happens. But guess what? It sucks and it does happen. And what drives me crazy, Pat, is when it comes to Iran, guys, a lot of people just whatever your algorithm is and you get upset about you haven't lived it, okay?
Starting point is 01:14:16 People, they don't, they've never been there, they don't even know people that are there, let alone find it on a map. You haven't experienced it. We're sitting in a room with a guy who's lived it as a child and saw people die and saw the regime, saw the IRGC,
Starting point is 01:14:30 and had to flee with this freaking father and go to a freaking refugee camp with his family. You guys, you haven't lived there. My parents left, okay? We've understood it. We've experienced it. So the people that haven't, give me a break.
Starting point is 01:14:43 when you talk about killing your own people, it didn't just start there. Protesters, professional wrestlers that open their mouth, they execute them. Do you understand what I'm talking about? Like we're over here talking about, you know, Patrick Clancy, Lindsay Clancy's wife and now she should die and all that stuff. These people are just opening their mouths and gay people out there that are supporting all these Islamic Islam regimes. Take your ass there and see what happens to you. They will kill your ass, okay? And again, anti-war, but say what you want.
Starting point is 01:15:11 There's footage of Donald Trump talking to. trash about China and Iran, Iran way before he tried to run for president. And I was getting a haircut the other day pen. I'm talking to my, uh, Barbara Josh. And he's like, you know what, Vinny? I don't give a day. He bothers, dude from New York, from Brooklyn. He's like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:15:29 Trump is the only one. Mother, there's people that were sitting ready to get a haircut talking, like going against us. And he was like, Trump is the only one that actually did something. Everybody's talking to trash and kicking the can down the road. These people say, guys, Death to America. So imagine we're sitting here right now, Chris. Towns over, people miles away, their attitude is death to you, die.
Starting point is 01:15:51 I hope all your women, children, everybody dies. How long do you let that slide? How long? Because it's not just, you know, BS, you know, table talk. Ah, they're just talking stuff in a little water cooler talk. They want us dead, guys. Do you understand that? They want you dead and it sucks and I wish it didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:16:08 But in a world where people want you dead, okay, and evil is out there, you got to fight fire with fire. I'm sorry. It's the truth, Pat. Don't apologize, Vinnie. Well, I'm just saying, I wish it was all loves and they want to kill us. You understand what I'm saying? Death to America, what does that mean to you, Pat? By the way, let me tell you, the best breakdown I heard of this was from John Morgan,
Starting point is 01:16:33 who said it on the podcast a few months back. He's not a Trump guy. He's a liberal. He's best friends with Bill Clinton. This is not a guy that's a Trump guy. he says for a guy like him, Morgan's saying this. I'm paraphrasing what he said. To decide to, this is not the most popular thing to do,
Starting point is 01:16:50 but to do it because he's making a decision long term to protect America, you've got to plot him for it. Look what he's done. Do you have the Marco Rubio clip, by the way? Do you have that Marco Rubio clip, if you want to play that real quick? This is a guy that, go for it. I think the Iranians are under this illusion that Democrats are going to win in November,
Starting point is 01:17:09 and the president will know long to be able to do things against I just don't think they understand our system very well. Other countries do, but they don't seem to. In our system of government, obviously Congress, the legislative branch is a very important branch of government. I served in it for 14 years, so I understand its powers, but I also understand its limitations. When it comes to the national security of our country,
Starting point is 01:17:27 when it comes to the imposition of both sanctions and the use of military force, the President has extraordinary powers. Every President does. He's the Commander-in-Chief, both constitutional and otherwise, to be able to carry out those functions. So I think that Iranians are fundamentally misreaded. are fundamentally misreading our political system. And I think the president made it very clear yesterday. For him, the Iranian issue is not a political issue.
Starting point is 01:17:47 It is the fact that for generations now, for almost 50 years, every American president, and frankly, every country in the world, for the most part, agrees that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon. But ultimately, no one ever does anything about it. And he's going to do something about it. And he's doing something about it. And it comes out of price and at a cost, there's no doubt about it.
Starting point is 01:18:06 But the cost of not doing something about it is substantially higher, especially for future. Just listen to the way how he landed that message. Listen to the way how he landed that message. That's Marco Rubio. Okay. And Marco, whatever you do, 2028, you got to be in the arena. That's what I'm saying to you.
Starting point is 01:18:26 You got to be in the arena, okay? You got to be in the arena. And he's right, by this Democratic Party thing that he's talking about, I want people to understand. This DSA move in, all these Islamists that are running for freaking Congress and running, like, I don't know if you guys saw him, we don't have to see it because the clip is long. There's a young Iranian American in Michigan. He stands up and he's saying to Abdul Syed's face.
Starting point is 01:18:47 He's like, we're dying. They were killing us. And you know, he wouldn't condemn the IRGC. And he's like, listen, I have to be careful for you. Careful of what? They're not, you think what they're going to come after you? He wouldn't condemn them. It's almost like Abdul al-Sayat is a fan of the Ayatollah.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Weird. Almost against America. And I'm telling you. Shout out to you guys in Michigan voting for him. And those guys, those are the guys. Those are the guys. He's talking about the Democratic Party. They're pro them.
Starting point is 01:19:14 They're pro-IRG-C. I'm telling you. They-them. They them. She, them. Terrorism. You got to study the history of Ford being the reason why the first mosque was built in America. Ford the car company.
Starting point is 01:19:27 The founder of Ford. So can you explain that? Yeah. I just told my grandpa this morning about that. We had the last time. Yeah. So here's what happened. So if you go back, Ford hated.
Starting point is 01:19:39 he had issues with Jews and people, when they sit there and say, why did he have issues with Jews? First of all, Dodge Brothers. The Dodge, this is Dodge's first logo. Are you serious? You guys are to know this? So this is Dodge's first logo.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I mean, do you see how obvious it is? How many anti-Sadmites are in their car? I go, what? I'm going to the Dodge Brothers. Pull over. The Dodge brothers are direct competitors, and he is furious with them. Then the union is a problem.
Starting point is 01:20:09 And so he's not having. with the union what's going on. So he starts realizing he can recruit people from Yemen, from Lebanon, and from Syria, and the people that came from there, they did not want to be part of union. So he was saving money on union by bringing people from Yemen, Syria, and Lebanon. Eventually, I think in 1912 or something like that, he brings the first Imam. When he brings him to Michigan, thinking these are great workers, man, I'm not paying any union, they're great. All he's thinking about is the fact that he's not going to pay any union. You know, they're not going to get bigger.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Well, the first imam comes, and they build the first, I think, mosque in Michigan. It's in Highland, if I'm not mistaken. And so Henry Ford is the reason why Michigan became what it became today. And from there on, because remember, as Armenians, we would move where? To Glendell, California. Damn right. Why? Because many, many years ago, a very influential Armenian moved to Glendell,
Starting point is 01:21:07 and everybody would say, where did John go? He went to Glendell. Menkeletan, El-Glendel. Menkeletan, Glendell. So then Armenians, if you go, Assyrians, Torlock, Chicago. Yes. If you look at Jews,
Starting point is 01:21:17 if you look at Italians, New York. And so you go because of influential, so thank you, Henry Ford, for doing what you did to the state of Michigan. He caused this. And his charity that he put money into
Starting point is 01:21:30 to help a bunch of people out. Eventually, he gave the board up to others. The board flipped against him. And guess what things the board of Ford gives money to right now nowadays? If you went and looked at what things they give money to right now, you wouldn't believe it. So everything he did was positive. He was thinking it was positive.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Am I doing it? Right there, right there, there you go. You almost got that. It's built Ford tough. Wow, so far. But I have a Ford, Pat. So because of the... I have a Ford, too.
Starting point is 01:21:55 I love Ford. I love it, too. He has a tattoo on it. But he actually does. Chris actually does have a tattoo. Yesterday at dinner, we're sitting and we're like, what is this guy doing? He takes his entire shirt off. Girls are going crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:06 At Casa DiAngelo. We're like, you're a fan. Put your shirt on. Adam couldn't see the fort tattoo, but it is what it is. All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I'm going to get into is Bibi gets up, gives a message. Half the room walks out. That's not the main highlight of the story, okay?
Starting point is 01:22:23 You have this clip. After B.B. walks out, after B.B. gives a speech and just tries to call everybody out, okay? This is what one of his workers did. You have to show the walkout first, the right sequence, guys. Have to show the walkout of people. walking on when he got up on stage and he spoke. So when he's up, he's giving his message saying all this stuff and he says, one by one by one, all these people are walking out and they're clapping and they're clapping.
Starting point is 01:22:50 So he's kind of doing his thing. And then all of a sudden, while that's going on, this guy walks in and one by one, do you guys have the clip or no? It's all over the place, guys. Yeah, there you go. Watch this. Damn. Audio? Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:23:51 So everybody's walking out. Now, watch this. Now watch was one of his representatives does. That's the one I'm really interested. This is scary. Look at this. Like the people that are in trouble. Who's present?
Starting point is 01:24:04 Get their names. Who walked out? You're getting a pager. You're going to get a hager. You're going to get a job. a pager. You've got a tunnel under your house. Good. What do you think he's actually doing? Do you actually think he's getting the name? He wants to document every single person that got on walked out because you know what?
Starting point is 01:24:25 What if one of them wants a favor or they need something or whatever? They're going to say, oh, really? You walked out during the speech of the prime minister. That's crazy. Thoughts on this? Well, I think every leader in the free world and those that are in the not-so-free world especially, have a naughty and nice list. They know who's with them, they know who's not with them. And they know who's with them and not with them publicly and privately. And I think this is probably nothing more than the roll call. And at some point in time, you know, you look where they're positioned.
Starting point is 01:25:01 You look where they are. And you forget about the technology that is there. Startup Nation, a great book about the companies that are in Israel. People are going to need something. It's not universal. And in the Middle East, when they need things to calm down, they come to Israel and they work with them. So I think, you know, Israel is no saint. But I think that's a naughty and nice list, and I think they're keeping score.
Starting point is 01:25:26 And there will be days when people will come and need to work with Israel on something to cooperate on broader, you know, initiatives. And I think they're going to remind them. Let me give you the names of the country. So 77 delegations walked out. They said 77 countries, but it's delegation. So it could be combination. So in a Middle East region, it was Palestine, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, Kuwait, Syria, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Maldives, Brunei, Turkey-Minnistan, Uzbekistan, those guys walked out.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Now, delegations from Europe, Spain, Ireland, Slovenia, Bosnia, Bosnia, and, and, Bosnia, all walked out. But those countries, all the other guys stayed in. Latin America, Caribbean, Brazil, because remember, that's Alula, Chile, Colombia, Peru, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Panama, Guyana, Belize, Cuba, Bahamas, Barbados,
Starting point is 01:26:27 those guys walked out. Africa, South Africa, Angola, Chad, Central African Republic, Republic of Congo, and a few others, they walked out. Asia, North Korea walked out. Wow, very surprising. May Namar, Tonga.
Starting point is 01:26:42 And in a couple of political significant details, Pakistan reportedly walked out, but then listened from the sidelines. Bahrain and UAE remained in the chamber, despite being Arab states with diplomatic relations with Israel. China also reportedly stayed. The Palestinian mission actively encouraged the coordinator walkout, asked delegations to enter the chamber, then leave collectively when Netanyahu was announced. So this was kind of planned. Adam, your thoughts? Well, this is the UN for you. and I'm not going to, I'm just going to be very direct.
Starting point is 01:27:14 This is why the UN is a sham organization. So, you know, in the UN, it's called the UNGA, the United Nations General Assembly. I'm going to read some stats for you, and I'm going to be completely unbiased. You let me know what you think is going on here. So there's called condemnations, where a country can basically say,
Starting point is 01:27:35 oh, that country is doing bad things, that country is doing bad things, right? So here's the list right now. Israel is leading the world in UN condemnations. They have 188. This is in the last 10 years from 2015 to 2025. 188. So if you're playing a basketball game, let's just go, you know, we like playing basketball here.
Starting point is 01:27:58 How many fouls you get? Israel has 188 condemnations. Second on that list is Russia with 35. Okay, so that is what, 5x? So Israel is 5x worse than Russia. Here's where it gets interesting. United States has 13. Okay, so way low.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Syria, that almost a million people died in a civil war, 12. Iran, condemnations that killed allegedly 40 to 50,000 of their own people. 11 condemnations. North Korea, arguably the worst country to live in the world. 11 condemnations. Afghanistan. One. How many do you think
Starting point is 01:28:42 China condemnations have had at the UN General Assembly? Zero. Zero. Weird. Okay? Turkey, zero. Cuba, zero. Haiti, zero. So at some point you need to ask yourself a question. Is Israel
Starting point is 01:28:55 literally the worst country in the world, the only democracy in the Middle East, or maybe the game is a little rigged? So if it's a basketball game and it's like, So you didn't call any fouls on Draymond Green, on Bill Lambier, on Dennis Rodman, none of them. People who are doing obviously the worst things. But LeBron James got 188 different fouls.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Something may be going on here. So to me, this is why the United Nations is a complete sham. Because if it was like, look, Iran has some, Russia has some, Cuba has some, Afghanistan has some, Israel has some. okay, cool, it's equitable. When the world collectively doesn't have as many condemnations as Israel have, that's pretty much evidence that it's complete sham. What I think is funny, you look at this map, and there's a few things I noticed. You draw a line.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Everything below, everything above the line, like if you drew a line across the red ones, just diagonal line across there. Everything above the line knows how to run a business, but they can't dance. Everything below the line goes the other way. Everything below the line in red is consuming dollars from all the ones that didn't walk out. I'm looking it down here and I'm looking at foreign aid, except the Saudis and certain things over there. Everybody that walked out is like consuming foreign aid from the ones that stayed. So it's like the ones that are walking out, it's like leave already.
Starting point is 01:30:25 You know, we're sending you dollars. We're giving you all this stuff. It's just shocking to me when I look at it. I think BB in his speech also brought up, he brought up, Sam Piker in his speech. Did he really? Yeah, he brought I know he said he went he mentioned he he went after he went after Mondani, New York, he said a lot of different things, yeah he did he did how much you how much of this do you think though because B.B on and off
Starting point is 01:30:47 has run you know been prime minister three times he's been in there for 19 years like at some point it's like bro you got to move on because you're you're the face of everything ups downs left right you know Gaza you know October 7th you're the guy I think at some point even President Trump after two terms you know you're getting to point where people are like enough and it's not just the world it's Israelis are over this guy I think gaddy is actually ahead right now because October is their election and he's kind bbis in second right now and maybe maybe they need a different person we're gonna see I mean I always compare bb to trump but double it because Trump has won two possibly three elections we'll see but if the american
Starting point is 01:31:30 people continue to vote for Trump year after year after year, so be it. So this is probably going to be the most contested election for BB. We'll see. The guy that is running against him is not like he's some innocent peace dove guy. He's from the IDF.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Of course. So the biggest difference that I just want to say is this. Countries have elections and their democracies and the rest of these countries have autocrats, dictators, and kings telling people what to do. I'll always Let me read this story to you. This may be the hottest story right now online, and it's a very, very heated debate. And you know what it's about? Bring an iced coffee to your interview that New York Times had to write about it. And it's gone viral bonkers. People are arguing over it. I cannot believe. If you bring this to a job interview, you are irresponsible. I'm trying to find this story. Is it on the addendum? Or is it on the, would you bring iced coffee to a job interview? The internet is divided. Some Gen C job seekers say it's not a bit.
Starting point is 01:32:30 big deal. Others find it as a big deal. I put page 8. Do you know what page it's on? Can you guys see what page? Ice coffee? Is it on addendum? Okay, there it is. I found it. All right. Here we go. Let me read it to you. 25, sir. So, Caitlin, I won't read her last name. President of Florida recruitment agency posted what she thought was an inocuous TikTok tip. Gen Z candidate shouldn't bring ice coffee to job interviews because it can signal the interview is just a stop on your list. of errands of the day. Over two days, the videos grew 20 different legs and runoff into so many different reactions. She said angry responses, strong agreements, parodies, critics also called ice coffee. Is this the video, by the way, of what she said? Okay, watch this video, what she said,
Starting point is 01:33:16 if that's the video. The Times treats the debate as a generational workplace and Rorschach test whether professionalism is a set of universal signals or an outdated dress code enforced by people who already have jobs, that's a disposable cup, can cleave. The Internet says less about coffee than about the little, the generations agree on what's showing up, prepared even looks like. Tom, do you really care if somebody comes to a job interview with an ice coffee? No, I care if you show up. Prepared, polite, professional, presentable, ready to answer questions, took the time to learn
Starting point is 01:33:51 more about the company that when you walked in, even made a comment to me, I've looked you up, sir, this is your background. Why do you, why did you come to this company? Curiosity. I love all of that. Whether you have a Starbucks cup or you have a Yeti. Now, I think you'd be ridiculous. Don't bring in a great big jug that tells everybody you're on one of those gallon a day diets. But if you walk in with a beverage and you sit there quietly, I have no problem with that. I'm probably going to offer you. Would you like some water or a cup of coffee before we start? Just to be polite. That's what I'm looking for. I'm not psychoanalyzing your. your beverage unless it's over the top.
Starting point is 01:34:29 That's what I think. Who has an opposite position for Tom's? Go ahead. And by the way, he's hired tens of thousands of more people than me. I just, for me, thank you, sir. Thank you. You're done. You're done. And this is so something not a hill I'm going to die on.
Starting point is 01:34:45 But if you're showing up for a job interview and you're, hey, what's going on? Like, well, put the coffee down, get prepared. A reasonable job opportunity might say, can I get you? water, can I get you anything, showing up, whether it's an ice coffee, a hot copy, a tea, a latte, whatever, it's like, how casual are you at this job interview? And then, you know, like, you tell a story about a guy doing a job interview. He's sitting like, he's just kind of relaxed because he was confident. But if you're just like a rookie showing up like that, I don't get it. I'm with that. But I do want to give you a shout out because not only one,
Starting point is 01:35:21 but two words you pronounce correctly. You, inoxone. Wow. And then you hit Roershack? I'm impressed. Is that weird? Is that where your brain? That's where I went. No, well, you know, sometimes he doesn't get desalination. That's a perfect transition. This segment's brought to you by Hooked on Fonnet. I'm working on my English. I got to give you credit. No, but listen, I'm honestly with Adam, like, when I go to any, anything where I'm like, even if it's not an interview, you go in there to meet with somebody that's trying to bring you in it. It's professional. It's really a big old wet Because, you know, those drinks are wet.
Starting point is 01:35:58 There's stuff leaking off of it. It's sweating the whole time. Tom, come in with a burrito from Chabot. You're saying, don't do it. I'm saying, don't come. Basic beverage. Wow. Don't bring your thermos for.
Starting point is 01:36:08 But they're saying ice. They're saying an ice coffee. For everybody out of that knows, that, you know what that's saying? Tom, you're walking. Is it really, though? To me, it's a pat. It's a little too coldies are wet and they're dripping in your leaving water. How do you feel about it if you're watching this?
Starting point is 01:36:22 Yeah, ice coffee. Run a pole with ice coffee is just too. options. Like maybe put, don't bring it. Don't bring it. It's okay. And then put, I don't give a shit. Like, just run the pole with those three different options. Pat, what if I will leave Tom is the one that's basically cool with that. You know what? Why did you go into the list I gave? Hey, you know what makes professional, polite, prepared, curious, engaged. And a lot. But Tom, you're a neat freak like me. You know how much water is going to be on your desk? Because freaking Freddie brought in a desk. But why not, why not bring some chips and salsa and just
Starting point is 01:36:53 starts sitting there going, hey, listen, I didn't eat lunch. I know I'm very smart, but you mind if I use a napkin? I think you should just go in there. Now, if you said, I studied your favorite salsa, and I have it here. That's a different story. Can we eat the salsa or this honey? This manuka honey that you have. It's an expensive honey. Right? It's a good honey. What are your thoughts? Tom, go out. Tom got me hook on it in my mouth. You have to realize. Like, we get hit up by sponsors that are like, hey, we'd like to make a custom coffee, you know, product for PPD podcast and what's, I said, dude, you must not really know, you know, that I haven't had coffee
Starting point is 01:37:26 since I was 25 years old. Yesterday had Big Mac for the first time in 29 years. Can you guys understand that? September of 2020. Please tell that story. But to be fair, tell them the, tell them the context of it. It was like you ran out. I finished boot camp and AIT. And then after I finished boot camp in AIT, I haven't had any fast food, any soda, any anything. I went and ate Big Mac. I threw up. I'm like, I can't eat the stuff. Last time I had Big Mac was September of 1997, which I finished AIT and I showed up to Fort Campbell, Kentucky. One of our clients, Mark Parrish, who runs a 22 McDonald's. Mark.
Starting point is 01:38:01 He's consulting with us for quite some time. He comes in and he says, Pat, I'm going to be the first that's going to bring you a Big Mac. And I joked with them. He wasn't joking. He brought me Big Mac yesterday. Played a clip here. Go for it. Makes me want one.
Starting point is 01:38:13 September of 1997 when I graduated AITM. Skinny, you look. And the only reason I'm doing this is a good man, Mark. He owns 22 McDonald's franchise as he's closed me on this. Here we go. Oh, but everybody knows the rules. Oh, man. Oh.
Starting point is 01:38:31 You know it's so good, bro. Oh, my God. Your body's like, it's a great sandwich. Burger. They know what they're doing. I don't want to leave it. It's that way. That's special songs.
Starting point is 01:38:43 What is that in the tickle sedentation? Oh. You're supposed to do one by the body. Everybody commented on the end of it. Listen. Please don't tell anybody. Watch, watch it.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Yeah, leave it a secret. No, leave it, leave it. So you love the taste, but it just didn't sit well with your stomach? Even last night. Even when I told you, I'm like, I'm feeling bad. I told Carson, I'm like, hey, guys, I'm not feeling good. I'm telling Jen, I got to go. I had to go out and bike a few miles.
Starting point is 01:39:14 You think that's from the big. Obviously. Yeah, for sure. My body doesn't know how to take it. So, but what story are we on right now? We're on the ice coffee story. And while you're doing that, while you're thinking, Pat, I'm going to, our audience, I'm almost positive, almost 80% is going to say, you don't bring a sweaty cup. You know what that says to me as a person?
Starting point is 01:39:34 Yeah, you don't really, who gives the damn? It's a wettie, sweaty. You're going to leave your bark. It actually would bother me if they came in there, like, shaking it, making noises. Like, come in there, do your interview, get the hell out of it. I wouldn't like the, I wouldn't like the, that's the noise that it's going to make. Yeah, I don't know. Were you at, Pat?
Starting point is 01:39:50 Yeah, I'm going to say. So you have to know, what I'm trying to say is if you were in my sales office, and these guys know, the OG ones, I didn't allow coffee in my office for 10 years. I couldn't stand coffee because if you, stains is the main reason. Guys will bring coffee, they would spill it in their stains. So I'm like, leave your coffee outside. So in our office, you would see seven cups of coffee outside, and they would all name it. You would have to go out because I put videos.
Starting point is 01:40:16 You would go outside, drink the coffee, and come back in. If you brought a coffee and had a problem with you, And my guys could tell you this. That was crystal clear. It was known with me. Now you can say whatever you want. That's my wiring. That's who I was.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Eventually, my wife, who loves coffee, and then they teamed up against me. I wasn't happy about it. They said, we have to figure right away to get Pat to allow coffee. And I said, if we get an office that the floor is cement, I'm open to it. So Glendell office, you've never been to a time. Did you ever get to the Glendal office? The purple cement. It was all cement.
Starting point is 01:40:47 So then I poured coffee on the floor. I said, now I'm okay with it. if you guys are able to place 400 insurance policies in a month, that was a number, not submitted place. So they had to work to get a place. We hit 403. It was a celebration. I bought everybody.
Starting point is 01:41:01 People are spraying coffee like a champagne. I don't know, everybody's. I just want to raise. The part you got to think about is there's levels of sensitivities with everybody that you're going to a job with. You want to be able to minimize as many things that they're going to be thinking about you in the interview. So you're probably better off not bringing it to just not.
Starting point is 01:41:18 or bring two one for you get the person to uh yeah i mean two of them if you do something like that i like you know i'm applying for this job i always like it when people send an email when we have a job opening like we got right now 35 job openings by the way can you go to vt dot com forward slash careers go to vt com forward slash careers careers yeah there you go if you go to the bottom you'll see how many job openings we got go all the way to the bottom on how many job people will send me an email or they'll send me a dm or they'll send me a meneck and they'll say hey pat i'm applying for this job I will forward that message to HR. Wow.
Starting point is 01:41:51 I will forward that message to HR. So that's great, go apply for it. And typically the people that do the AI interview there go even higher because we get a scoring system on it on the back end. I like that part. And then after the interview, when somebody sends a message and says, hey, I really enjoyed the time with you. I'd love to be able to consider for this position.
Starting point is 01:42:08 And then sometime when a guy comes to an interview and in the conversation, something's brought up, a book is brought up, something's brought up, and you lead. Your goal is to be memorable when you leave. Send me back a book. Send me back a conversation. Hey, in the conversation, we talked about this, send me something.
Starting point is 01:42:24 I just got something really nice from Daniela. Was they sent out one of these, what do you call it? I don't know, these toys that the head, the biggest. Bobblehead. It's not Bobblehead. It's a different thing that kids collect. And it was a former employee of ours. I love Daniela.
Starting point is 01:42:37 She sent me something nice. These are small little things that you ought to do, you know? Yesterday we had one of our guys, RJ came here. We got two nice bottles of wine because I said, hey, man, I got a lot of respect for you. I think these are small little things that you can do that people are paying attention to. But, you know, maybe there's an argument for minimize additional reasons why somebody else is going to judge you because everybody's being judged.
Starting point is 01:43:00 We get judge all the time. You're going to be judged. Maybe it's a good idea to not bring the. What was the poll? I don't know what the poll is. Can you send the poll? Do we see it? Or were the results?
Starting point is 01:43:09 Let me see if they send the poll or not. He's coffee. Then we got a text. 76% don't bring it. There you go. 5% said bring it. said 80. 19% said they don't give a shit.
Starting point is 01:43:20 Right. 19 and like, Tom, I agree with that. It's probably a better idea not to bring it. But if you bring it in front of me and if not as you're over the top,
Starting point is 01:43:28 I care about who you want. They converted you, Tom. I respect it. They converted you. But don't go back on your answer, Tom, you're better than that. You're fine.
Starting point is 01:43:35 You're fine. I think you got. You know what, Tom? I'm going to buy you a coffee. Chris brings chains sauce to his podcast. Coffee's on me. All right. Well, I think since Tom is converting to that,
Starting point is 01:43:46 let me go into a story. That's a best. transition for this. Alcohol consumption has declined, Tom. For the first time since COVID-19, this is a CNN story, okay? Alcohol consumption has declined. And let me go to this story here with you guys. All right, so here we go. Nearly seven years after the pandemic began, alcohol use rates have finally began to drop, according to study, in the annals of internal medicine by Dr. Brian P. Lee, hepatologist and liver transplant specialist at Keck Medicine USC. The pandemic brought a surgeon drinking in 2020 that hadn't declined for two years.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Lee watches waiting rooms filled with liver disease patients, even people in their 20s needing, damn, transplants from alcohol use something he hadn't seen before the pandemic. Seeing the first decline gives you something to hope for as a doctor, but you have to be appropriately cautious too because one change doesn't necessarily mean a sustained trend Lee said the study found declines in alc and any alcohol use including heavy drinking whether it's a turning point or a blip will make more years of data to know Tom will take more years of data to know what what do you think is going on here with alcohol do you think that's a real thing no I think it's a an expense and hospitality blip because right now we see what's
Starting point is 01:45:04 happening with restaurants we see what's happening with hospitality spending on Americans' budget. And I think rather than get gassed, they'd rather buy gasoline. And I think that's what's going on. And so I think this is a sign of people that are cutting their drinking budget. Now, among that, I do think that the generations coming up are drinking less, and that was before COVID. However, the greater everyone else, Pat, I think it's a blip for everyone else, but I think the young generations are, in fact, drinking less. Yeah, they're drinking nice coffee instead. No, the data shows it.
Starting point is 01:45:42 Before COVID, the upcoming generations were drinking less alcohol. During COVID, everybody sat home and drank. After COVID, with affordability, you have people are going to restaurants less, and they're going out less, and what's the most expensive thing when you go to a restaurant? You know, an $8 beer standing next to a $16, you know, restaurant, you know, you know, chicken dinner or whatever it is. And so what you are seeing now, the data shows that people are going out less, that restaurants are having a tough time,
Starting point is 01:46:13 and therefore alcohol consumption out is less. But the young generation, the data shows they've been drinking less since before COVID. Adam. Yeah, I think alcohol is down, but that doesn't mean that people stop doing other things that are maybe possibly bad for them because, you know, just like the truth campaigns, people stop smoking cigarettes and now everyone's vaping. So there's going to be a replacement. So, you know, as one of the few guys that it's, quote, unquote, out and about,
Starting point is 01:46:39 I can't tell you how many people are smoking weed, THC, CBD, gummies, Kava. At the same time, there's a bigger wellness uptick that people do want to get healthier. And they realize that, look, alcohol, at a certain point in your life, are you guys good over here? Okay, gotcha. certain point of your life, the hangover is not worth the fun. By the way, I see a number here. It says the most striking number is Gallup. In 2026, only 54% of U.S. adults say they drink alcohol tied with 2025,
Starting point is 01:47:14 for the lowest level Gallup has had in recording since. You ready? 1939. It's a long time, Vinnie. For comparison, it was 67% as recent as 2022. Can you ask a question in the poll and say, have you drank alcohol? in the last 30 days. I don't care how many it is.
Starting point is 01:47:32 Have you had any kind of alcohol last 30 days? Yes, no. Simple poll. Have you had any alcohol last 30 days? Any in the last 30 days? Any in the beer, tequila, whiskey, whatever. 80%. I don't care what it is.
Starting point is 01:47:43 I don't think it's going to be 80%. I think so. I don't think it's going to be 80%? 30 days, no. Last 30 days? I think it's going to be 65% to 60%. Don't you think when people stop drinking alcohol, they replace it. Watch this.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Watch this. Watch this. Let me just finish this. Okay. Actual sale. consumption data tells a similar story. According to IWSR, U.S. beverage alcohol volume fell 5% in 2025 alone to breakdown. Beer is down 6%.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Not last night, but beer is down. Shout out to Chris. Wine is down. One beers. Wasted. Spirits is down, 4%. Ready to drink. What is that, by the way?
Starting point is 01:48:22 Ready to drink. Is that the cans? Like the barreda mix? You just poured over ice. Ready to drink is down 1%. non-alcoholic beverage is up 15% and alcohol volumes declined out of 50 states. How many of them you think declined? Out of 50.
Starting point is 01:48:40 49 out of 50. What do you think is the one state that didn't decline? Drinking? That gay bar in Boston. And we're going to go to that. But what do you think is the state that didn't decline in drinking? Didn't decline. That's kind of weird.
Starting point is 01:48:52 You should be able to get it. Kentucky. Drinking? Alcohol. Alabama? No, it's Nevada. Oh, yeah. Vegas.
Starting point is 01:48:58 Vegas. Yeah, Vegas. Yeah, Vegas. Nevada didn't decline. Because they give you free drinks when you're getting away. But I'm going to tell you what's going on here. I'm going to tell you what's going on here. And I wonder if you got the poll, send it to me because I want to know what the poll shows with our audience, where our audience is would say a lot, is these health podcasts.
Starting point is 01:49:15 I had Chip Wilson on, founder of Lulu Lemon. Guys worth $6 billion. I had him on the podcast eight years ago. Great conversation. And he said, very soon we're going to have something called smart clothes. And he says in 20 years, so many people are going to be in shape that it's not going to be a big deal if you're in shape. Most people will be in shape, he said, in 20 years.
Starting point is 01:49:36 So he said this eight years ago, so we're going to go to 2018. By 2038, most people will be in shape. And I said, why? He says, just the data, and now people are realizing you're killing yourself. If you're eating this food, you're drinking this alcohol, you're killing yourself. Are you okay with it? Because the data is going to be in your face. 44% said yes they drank,
Starting point is 01:49:56 56% said they haven't drank anything. Good for you guys. 30 days. You're smart. Good for you, okay? Good for you. Because last night, we would have disappointed you. We were hammered.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Done. Right? Done. On Camel Mill T. I'm rolling, Doug. Yeah, but he didn't anticipate all these GLP drugs out here. He thought that'd be smart clothes. But where it's going today, I do think the health podcast are getting people
Starting point is 01:50:22 to think about their health more than ever before. I think one of the worst things that happened to, alcohol, is all these major health podcasters that are doing what they're doing, talking about the consequences. Podcasting destroyed the alcohol and beverage business. Podcasting in a massive percentage, purely through education. I fully agree with you. And my only question would be, as much of those numbers are down.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Get him up here, guys. He wants something. I'll take one. A bud light. Touch it. Yeah. My only question is, how much has other things gone up? How much has weed consumption gone up?
Starting point is 01:50:58 Kava, THC, smoking? How much of other things increase while alcohol has decreased? But you can't. Those are two different things. This is drink. You could. No, I get it. But it's more like, hey, can I?
Starting point is 01:51:11 No, no, no. Drink consumption is a very few people can just do what Vinnie does. Go out and be completely sober and do nothing wrong. But I'm telling you, I think a lot of people are doing it. I think a lot of people are doing it. I agree with you, but I also think there's smoking cigars, they're vaping. Have you ever gone to the doctor and done a cat scan and something shows up in your health where you kind of like all of a sudden get uncomfortable? Has that ever happened?
Starting point is 01:51:32 Oh, yeah. All the time. They're like, what the hell is that? So then when the doctor says, this is not good. And you're like, what's not good? Well, you know, these cholesterol levels. You got to get on Lipitor, homie. You got to get on stent.
Starting point is 01:51:47 You got to get on stature. You got to get on lipator. You got to get on this. The moment that conversation. has, people are so now imagine all of those videos that are going viral saying, if you drink alcohol, this is what happens to your body. You are literally killing yourself when you drink. I'm, oh my God, let me stop drinking. So the fear aspect of health is truly making an impact. I think a lot more people are like Vinnie quitting alcohol purely. And I love it. And I love it.
Starting point is 01:52:12 And I've said this before. I think we talked about this yesterday where I go, if you eat too much food, if you sit there and just, you know what they say? Oh, man, I'm full. When you drink too much alcohol. It's called alcohol poisoning. It's literally when we walk around, we see somebody like this, we're like, ah, look at him. He's buzzed. No, no, no. He's poisoned, but he's not poisoned to the point where he's going to die. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:52:36 Because your liver, you know, it rejuvenates itself, which is, you know, I guess if livers didn't do that, there'd be a lot of less people drinking, Pat. But there's an exception because 5% of Gen Z is down from drinking. Chris, Chris, what would need to happen for you to quit drinking? I have no idea. I mean, I don't drink a lot. You know what I mean? I don't get drunk. So, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:52:56 The truth was happened last time. No, yeah, right. Let me defend, Mike. You were in Miami? I tried to take him out with me last night. You wouldn't go out. I had, I've had problems with drinking. Like, Vinny, I swear, like, just growing up, like, drink all the time.
Starting point is 01:53:08 You know, high school parties and stuff like that. And, you know, a couple times throughout my marriage, you know, I've gotten too drunk. I mean, I've done anything stupid, but, you know, so I can go to sleep. Like, you feel like an idiot. But, I don't know. I mean, we consider it all the time. Me and my wife, we talk about all the time. Would you, would you consider it?
Starting point is 01:53:23 Yeah, I consider it all. the time. I think what do you... Just because of my kids. It's like, you know what I mean... What would get you to say, I wonder, like, what the process of person goes through? What would get somebody to say, I would quit drinking? I think, for me, like I said, I mean, my wife will tell you, it's like, you know, I mean, I used to get party and stuff like that, and, you know, you always have a little bit of taste of it, but for me, I think it's like, I mean, there's people in my family, like, oh,
Starting point is 01:53:49 you don't drink, but it's like, dude, you're on every pill from the doctor there is. I mean, I'm on no medication, right? Yeah, I like to have two or three beers every now and again. So what? I mean, to me, that's how I, maybe that's how I convince myself in my mind, but I'm not saying I'm right. Yeah. You know, everybody's on, you know, whatever else. Adderall, I mean, whatever else.
Starting point is 01:54:05 If you have to choose. Yeah, you're right. I grew up in high school, like the time. It's like, everybody was on Adderall. Like, you can literally just go get it. And here's another thing about Adderall. I'll just tell you. My buddy's an Air Force recruiter.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Yep. And he told me that 90%, this is what he told me. and this is in India that have high school graduates are automatically disqualified because they're on some sort of Adderall or SSR, because you have to be off T-T. Don't quote me, but something you'd be off of medication, I want to say,
Starting point is 01:54:33 for at least one year before you could join. I wonder why the freaking recruitment numbers were freaking down for all that time. Everybody's on Adderall. I used going, and I was like, yeah, I can't focus. Like,
Starting point is 01:54:42 my bodies would get it's a party drug. What do you see? So here's what I see. I like looking back at pictures like the 1940s and 50s. Just look at the streets in New York after a baseball game, a parade, in shape, skinny. Exactly. You don't see the level of obesity and the number of people fighting that. And it's because of two things in America. One is fats and the other is sugar. Sugar and cereal. Sugar and cereal. The excess sugar. We know about it. Well, guess what else has a lot of excess sugar? Beer. Yep, alcohol.
Starting point is 01:55:11 Tequila. I mean, more of that's Jameson. Sugar. And so now you've got people aware of the effects of alcohol, aware of what's happening with sugar and soda. and going to get GOP. And so if you want the GLP to work, you have to, you can't fight it with sugar. And people that go on the GOP, they see a double. And if you read about people saying, hey, remember, remember the sugar, you know, back off the sugar. Well, that time, you just made very good point. So let me just kind of go through what has the least amount of sugar and what has the highs. And don't let this inspire you.
Starting point is 01:55:46 Yeah, yeah. So vodka, tequila, whiskey, gin, rum, straight, zero sugar. Huh? A person could use that. That's why I only drink. I only drink gin, brother. I hate whiskey. Hard celtzer, unsweetened, got zero to two grams.
Starting point is 01:56:00 Dry red wine, one gram. Dry white wine, one or two grams. Regular beer, 10 to 15 grams. Total carbs and usually very low sugar, but it's got the carbs. Champagne 1 or 3 grams. Sweet wine, 8 to 20 grams. Rum and Coke, 25 to 40 grams. mohito 15 to 30 grams of sugar
Starting point is 01:56:23 margarita did I pronounce that right yeah one margarita I eat that 15 to 35 grams of sugar pinacolada 25 to 50 grams of sugar frozen daffory sweet for like this is the adams drink frozen daffery loves it 30 to 60 grams what about a shirley and by way when people are out I don't see people with shots I don't see people
Starting point is 01:56:45 on the rocks I see people drinks it's the other stuff that's in it It's the sugar in the factory, the sugar in the And so people are backing off. People with GOP, you'll see comments back and forth. It says, hey, remember, you got to go easy on this. You got to go easy on sugar. Don't, because you're paying for these injections, don't fight it the other way.
Starting point is 01:57:04 Let me ask Tom a question. I want to know what your drink is. Like, when you get into the studio about to wrap, about to throw a beat down, you have one cocktail, maybe you pop for a little something. What's your drink of choice? Pat knows. I'll have a glass of red wine.
Starting point is 01:57:19 with the steak rarely. Compared to five years ago, it's rarely. He knows we've been out so many times. It's one, and I'll say to them, hey, bring me the best house penal wall you have, but bring it with my steak. I don't have it before dinner, and I don't woof on bread.
Starting point is 01:57:35 So I'm moderating that, and so I'll enjoy that with the state, rarely. Yeah, and by the most, mostly, you'll see me have, they say, hey, can you bring me a cranberry juice with lime in it, and I'll have one, and then, with no alcohol in it, and then I'm drinking sparkling water I'm going to tell you this. I went from 259 pounds in January with a belly, okay, to 229
Starting point is 01:57:57 this morning, okay? 259 to 229. And you're 6-4. And I'm 6-4. So that means I can handle the weight. I know on the internet you're 5-6. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so funny. So what was cut? July of 2019, I cut soda. The guy yesterday, Mark brought Coca-Cola from McDonald's. I'm not touching that. Did have a big Mac. I did have a big Mac. I did have a big mac and the fries. No coke. When I would go to movies, and I'd go to movies a lot with the kids, I would have slurpy and popcorn, slushy and icy, and the big ones. Guess what? Just cutting that alone was massive. I haven't had one in one, I haven't had one since January of this year, not one.
Starting point is 01:58:37 I could vouch for that. I would go and get the cheese, you know, with the popcorn and cheese. Oh, my God, that cheese to me is that but popcorn with cheese. Oh, yeah. That's a delicacy. A different story. Legend. In Iran. I mean, legendary, right? We got rid of all the cereal in our pantry.
Starting point is 01:58:53 And my cereal, you know what it is? Lucky Charms, Cinnamon Codagh. Co. Cripy. Oh, my God. Put a ball. And you know when Coker Krispies is the best? Cold 10.30 at night.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Oh, no. By yourself. You're just like, this is crazy. Scoop is sugar at night. This is sugar crazy. Killing it, right? And then cut a lot of that stuff,
Starting point is 01:59:14 and I moved my dinner to 430. So unless if I go out and I'm hanging out with people, moving dinner from 8 o'clock at night that some Middle Easterns eat, just move that up to 434-45, night and day for you. Early. I can't condone. Because you have a wake hour. Dinner needs to be. And then when the sun is down. Breakfast, if you can go without breakfast and let your body go through the whole process of, what did it call it?
Starting point is 01:59:40 The fasting that you're going through and the body's getting ready for. Now, that's something I'm open to. A lot of people maintain. Those simple things change my life. And I would say never combine two glasses of wine with an old-fashioned veney. Don't do that. I would highly recommend not drinking like that. Never do that.
Starting point is 02:00:00 Yeah, but you're little fun fat guys, cocaine looks like zero sugar, gluten-free. And guys, can we pull up that video that we just had on the screen? Don't play the audio. We can't play the music. Oh, are you kidding? No music, but just watch Tom. Look at Tom, right. Look at how wet Tom's hair is.
Starting point is 02:00:19 Look how wet Tom's hair. Look at Pat getting it. Shoot everybody, Pat. Yeah, shoot everybody, Pat. Look at it. Get that money out. Get the, uh, uh, uh. By the way, if you go back, Tom almost grab this.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Tom almost grab his junk. Go back to, go back to Tom almost grabbing his watch. He's about to grab his crotch and he doesn't do it. Look at him. The biz doc. Oh, he's grabbing the biz crotch. The biz gung, gang, all right.
Starting point is 02:00:42 There you go. The truth is out. Shout out to the amigos. You don't want to see you. see Tom rapping. He's actually pretty good. Well, your moves, Pat. Look at you move. Let's go to the next story. One of the funniest stories we've done in a while. You're ready for this one? I want to find this story, page on it. So is that the one? Yeah, there it is.
Starting point is 02:00:59 So the best story Boston Globe has done in a while that got them thousands of new paid subscribers. This is the story. You ready for this? You're almost not going to believe it. A Western Massachusetts lesbian bar required to K-N-95 masks. When it changed the rules, all hell broke, lose. Okay, let's go through this story.
Starting point is 02:01:25 Wait, this is the lesbian communist bar? Lesbian communist bar. Is it called the red carpet? Let me read it to you. Okay. So, which is the one to go, okay.
Starting point is 02:01:34 On an August 31st Instagram post from last ditch bar in arts venue, a lesbian bar in Greenfield, Massachusetts teased a new DJ lineup and partway down dropped a sentence that splintered the queer community of the Pioneer Valley. It is with love we inform our, what the hell is that? In love?
Starting point is 02:01:55 No, no. What is it? Immune Compromise, disabled divas. We will be opening Saturday night as mask optional. Patrons had previously been required to wear well-fitted K&N-95 mask or better at all times. The change was not received with love. Just say you're being. complicit in a mass disabling event and get it over with.
Starting point is 02:02:20 One comment to wrote, people like you killed disabled people in the name of your own leisure and convenience, posted another. One hop to venue gets firebombed the globe trade. Wow. The fallout as a case study in COVID-era activist subcultures, while masking became identity and relaxing, it became betrayal five plus years after the pandemic, pandemic's peak.
Starting point is 02:02:46 So apparently this story with the mask, meltdown generated thousands of subscribers in one day for Boston Globe and on pace to shatter all sorts of Boston Globe records. These guys did the Catholic story with the boys, the movie that came out with Tom Hanks, okay, per Max Taney, manage and editor calling it by far our most best performing story of the year, the Globe Peace Chronicle, the Ditch Bar,
Starting point is 02:03:11 and when they put that tweet out there. So the details keeps escalating, rules welcoming poor and unhoused people, a bartender rejecting a Lady Gaga night because Gaga is canceled. Gaga is a Zionist and a September 11 community meeting where owner Jackie Metallion working multiple jobs and living in her car broke down. She's trying to make it work for these communist lesbians who want a mask to be on. I never really wanted this. I don't think I'm doing a very good job.
Starting point is 02:03:40 attendees slammed her tears as incredibly racist and deflecting behavior and objecting that the mediator was a white therapist. Italian owes her landlord $3,900 by months. So Vinnie, what do you think about this crazy story here? Well, by the way, can we see some pictures of what these ladies look like? That'd be great. Look at how hairy her legs are. Zoom in on that.
Starting point is 02:04:03 I want you to zoom in on those legs right there. Is that really hairy? Can you zoom in on that or no? Like right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep going, keep going. So they all have masks? At a bar.
Starting point is 02:04:14 Easing the mask. A bad, like, first of all, can I ask a very weird, like, is this appropriate to ask this question? Go for it. You're a lesbian, you want a mask on? Yeah. Don't go deeper. Don't say anything. We won't go deeper.
Starting point is 02:04:30 No. How are you doing anything? How is anything happening? Isn't that like, like, it's against the world? If I was a lesbian, I would go to places that don't want masks. I have zero math. It shows you who's open-minded. You're damn right.
Starting point is 02:04:42 No pun intended. So I just think that anything... Catastrophic decision here, Tom. Just the fact that you say... I think this is going to lead the Boston Globe covering other things, such as a gay totalitarian bar, free beer, free Tibet. So it's like... And the Boston Globe is going to be running for...
Starting point is 02:05:00 See, this works. So stand by for other stories from the Boston Globe, who they can talk about this or that. But deep inside, they're capitalist and they want to get subscribers. So I'm waiting for a whole list of these stories every Thursday. The fact that this is the biggest story of Boston Globe, that they're reporting saying they gain thousands of subscribers per note from Boston and Western Wallstaff, the lesbian bar story generated 1,000 subscription to the paper.
Starting point is 02:05:24 Yesterday, the global manager editor said, by far the best performing. Insanity. Insanity. So you think they're going to do it again, Pat? What do you know what it does? What I love about the story is when we had Medell-Assana on, and I said, hey, man, isn't it great that you're now a capitalist? I'm not a capitalist.
Starting point is 02:05:40 Of course you're a capitalist. You started your own. And he's going to crush. He's going to do well. He's very, very talented. But the longer you're alive, the longer you eventually become a capitalist, and hopefully you realize, hey, man, we got to make sure we find a way for this lady to make money to pay her rent at $3,900 or else this incredibly lesbian communist club is going to shut down.
Starting point is 02:06:01 And we need this place to be shut down. We need this place to be old. She can't afford razors to shave her legs. But good point. At some point in time, you're going to realize that rent and food takes care. Cash, ain't that a bitch. Yeah, but you know what it is? Because I know you want to go.
Starting point is 02:06:14 This might be the greatest example, Tom. I've seen of people getting eaten alive by the culture they helped create, okay? She's broke, living in her truck. She's working four jobs, drowning in debt. And the people that you're trying to please, they're calling you racist, ableist, because you made mask optionals. Guys, one night a week in 2006. And if we're going to be honest, Tom.
Starting point is 02:06:39 And then you apologize, and then they attacked the apology because it didn't feel like an alternative text. I don't know. Where does she live? Boston, right? Yeah, but where does she live? She's in her truck. Down by the river. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:06:50 In a van. Like, it's insane. Chris, what do you think? I have no clue. It's the best answer to do. Oh, man, you haven't been to a lesbianist. I mean, it's not interested. Because just to wrap your head around this, it's boggles my mind that that, like, listen to all the levels of how insane it is.
Starting point is 02:07:08 And it's, by the way, am I the only one that if you guys are hanging around right now, the other, when was it? Was it yesterday, Chris? We're sitting there. This lady had a mask. Pat, when was it? Was it yesterday the day before? We're sitting there eating in 2026. Guys, COVID, what happened?
Starting point is 02:07:23 COVID? Anybody, did COVID disappear just like the flu when COVID happened? She had a mask on so tight. When I see somebody wearing a mask, that to me is like, you are the most gullible, brainwashed. Like, if God forbid, the zombie, you. apocalypse comes, you're the first ones to get it. Those people, what are you wearing a mask for? This lady was 30 years old, tight, tight mask in a restaurant.
Starting point is 02:07:48 And every time she ate, I'm like, what the hell is going on? I mean, that's another one of those questions. What is wrong with you? If a man goes on a date, a girl still got a mask on. You got to be like, you got to move on. You've just described Islam. You've gone on a date and the person you're dating is sitting there as a as a ninja.
Starting point is 02:08:07 Like, when do you, when do you get to meet? At some, hopefully some point later on that. I got to give Tom credit for that one. Look, this bar is the exact opposite of any bar I've ever been to in South Beach. In South Beach, it's chicks and miniskirts, fake this, fake that, you know, lips inflated. The last thing they have is a mask on. Men and miniskirts. Yeah, literally none of that.
Starting point is 02:08:32 But this to me. No, not on Collins having it. Never. This to me, Tom knows a lot about what's going on in South Beach. Step bar, boys are hip hop writers. This bar is like the Venn diagram of like, pre-Palestine, mask mandate, pro-Linsey, LGBTQIA, identity pronoun, anti-capitalist, communist,
Starting point is 02:08:51 shove them all in a bar. I would just lock the door, now as you can't leave, and let them all figure it out and let the best man win in that. By the way, why don't you just invite them to your bar and make them so nice? There's two stories we got. One of the two stories to get to. Do we want to go to the Gijing Pink, or do we want to go through what just came out?
Starting point is 02:09:07 when Hillary Clinton said, kicking out the free press, and stories came out of Julian Assange, where in an email, she asked, can't we just drone the guy? Did you guys see that? I saw that. Okay, so go to the Hillary Clinton Post. Hillary Clinton posts yesterday,
Starting point is 02:09:20 kicking out free press is what fragile authoritarian do, not American presidents. This is her tweet 24 hours ago, okay? Oh, yeah. So this is what she says, kicking off free press is what fragile authoritarians do, not American president. And she gets a community.
Starting point is 02:09:37 community note. Hillary Clinton literally suggested U.S. should kill a prominent journalist Julian Assange threw a drone. Have you seen this letter? She's a killer. Can you go to the, can you go to the tweet that shows the notes? Look at that go to this. Can't we just, where's it about while June's no, no, but there's actually. There's one that's highlighted. Yeah, that's highlighted in yellow. Can't we. Just drone the guy. This is one frustrated of Hillary Clinton sources said at some point blurted out a controversial query. She said, can't we just drone this guy? Clinton openly inquired, offering a simple remedy to silence Assange and smother WikiLeaks via planned military drone strike, according to State Department sources.
Starting point is 02:10:17 The statement drew laughter from the room, which quickly died off when the secretary kept talking in a terse manner. Sources said Clinton said Assange, after all, was a relatively soft target walking around freely and thumbing his nose without any fear of reprisals from the United States. That's the true Hillary Clinton. All the people out there that are like, I'm with her and everything. She is a legitimate killer gangster.
Starting point is 02:10:44 And you know why the room got quiet? Why? Everybody's going like this. Oh, crap, she's serious. She's serious. Oh, guys. And one of the most, and I talked about this last night at dinner, I'm one of those guys that would sit there pre-COVID,
Starting point is 02:10:56 after COVID, during COVID. I would just watch hearings after hearings from Benghazi to you name it. And her attitude, Hillary, buddy, besides all the mysterious suicide, death, Mark Middleton, people that are connected to her, her husband, or the Clinton Foundation. Guys, her attitude of Chris Stevens and all these American patriots getting killed, she's like, what difference does it make? She doesn't care.
Starting point is 02:11:21 Hillary Clinton, and you nailed it, Pat. She is a legitimate gangster, and I believe her 100%. So the irony of her trying to talk about the free press, you wanted to kill a guy that released footage that he got of American soldiers killing innocent people in that video. What was it called? Collateral damage. Like, give me a freaking break. That's who Hillary Clinton is. Chris, are you a big Hillary fan? Yeah, I voted for. Did you really? No. Oh. He speaks sarcasm. Yes, he does. He speaks I love it. Okay, gang, it's 1130. And it's time. We all got meetings. Some of us have meetings. Some of us have to go drink a couple, you know, couple wine. A couple pinocaladas, Patia colitas.
Starting point is 02:12:01 Paniacolita. A little respect for the peanut. Calano community. Chris, how was the experience last night and today? Great. I mean, it was great. That's all I can say. That's it. There you go.
Starting point is 02:12:10 Most casual guy I've ever met. I love him. I love him. I love him. Whatever, man. By the way, like I said to you earlier, if you want to find a way to be here talking with us and going to dinner, text the word podcast to 310340112. Again, text the word podcast to 3103401132.
Starting point is 02:12:27 We will have other opportunities in the future with us. We got some very strange interviews that have got. going to be shot today that have come next week. Can't wait. I think you're going to enjoy the interviews that's coming here soon. Take care, everybody. God bless.
Starting point is 02:12:38 Bye, bye, bye, bye.

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