PBD Podcast - Trump To Address Nation + Dave Smith Debate | PBD #767

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana break down the Charlie Kirk bullet match controversy, U.S. bunker buster airstrikes on Iran’s Isfahan nuclear facility, Kristi Noem... controversy, and Tiger Woods DUI arrest case.------📕 SLS 2026 OFFICIAL RECORDING: https://bit.ly/3PL6CF0Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!🇰KALSHI: ⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed to take sweet bit of three. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signs. Right here. You are a one of one?
Starting point is 00:00:20 My son's right. I think I've ever said this before. All right. So we are live folks. Obviously everybody knows when we think about what everybody wants to talk about. I mean, I've been tweeted out a million times. Pat, can you please talk about this? Can you please talk about that?
Starting point is 00:00:41 We're finally going to be addressing your time. It's not wearing a tie today. I know it's an issue for a lot of you guys. You're not happy about it. We will talk about that. There are a lot of other things that's on your mind, such as Chicago Bulls, Jaden Ivy, not Nancy Ainsley. This is Jaden Ivy.
Starting point is 00:00:56 We want to say the name's properly, Vinny, because it's like it's important to go through it. And it's important because last Friday, you know, the great Sean Hannity was here. You know, here's a guy that's been doing this for decades, came out, sat down at the podcast. And by the way, it's not easy to do that. Nobody likes to do that. You know why?
Starting point is 00:01:13 Because if I go and host for somebody else, the audience is going, oh, we missed this, we missed that. So, you know, I want to thank Sean here in front of everybody that you came and did that, especially a guy that's a decorated guy in the industry that's been doing great work his entire career. And so thank you, Sean, for the audience that tuned in on Friday. I got a lot of commentary. I'm glad you guys had a good time together. I think the biggest complaint was we didn't talk about Iran enough. So the goal is to go two and a half hours into Iran today. So stay tuned. We're definitely going to be doing that. And Adams committed to bring in and doing a podcast with a significant other hopefully one of these days. We can see that happening. Gas prices are at four bucks. I saw the gas prices. We got to talk about that. Humberto came in today for no reason. I get a call from HR. why am I getting a complaint to HR from Humberto for gas prices hitting $4? What responsibilities does our HR department have over it? I'm like, RJ, I don't know what to tell you.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Humberto, you do one thing, he gets upset him and Justin got into a big fight. This last week in front of everybody at SLS, which was hands down the greatest event ever, which if you were there, you know what I'm talking about. It was hands down the most epic event. We put together at the Trump Doreau, the people at Trump Doreau. Phenomenal experience we had there. we got to talk about Tiger Woods. I mean, Tiger Woods, man, there's a reason.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Like, there's a part of me that thinks the founders of, I'm convinced Vinnie, the founders of Uber and Lyft, I'm convinced they are such diehard fans that they created the company purely with the thought of mind to prevent Tiger from driving. Because they're like, why drive, knowing you get in trouble when you drive, just let us drive you. We'll take it. And we'll give you millions of drivers around the country. It'll take you anywhere you want to go and he's not using it.
Starting point is 00:03:02 So we've got to talk about Tiger. Rumor has it. He's not going to be competing in this week's tournament that's coming up. People are devastated. Some are saying it would have been entertaining if it would have been because, you know, who knows what it would be unpredictable, right? There's an element of it. But who doesn't love Tiger, right?
Starting point is 00:03:15 I'm one of those guys that loves Tiger. There's a lot of stories that came out on conversations, on fights, on ultimatums and all this stuff. Apparently, King Charles is coming to Congress. And we have some people that are curious to know what's going to be happening. Trump's ballroom judge says, nope, time out, we're not doing this. And I think he's going to Supreme, is he going to Supreme, is he going to sit down today to see the exchange of conversation? Yes, he is.
Starting point is 00:03:40 He will be in the audience. President will be sitting down in the audience? Wait, Pat, so you mean a king is coming after we just had a no kings? Well, they, that's up. The no kings protest, I mean, listen, it's important stuff there, Vinny, because we can't have a king here. And then Trump's addressing the nation tonight at 9 o'clock, know what it's about. They're wondering if, you know, was he not happy with some of the trade
Starting point is 00:04:05 deadlines? Was he not happy about some of the thing? No one knows what's going to be talking about. Scott Jennings dropped it a little bit. Some people from the White House apparently leaked some information to the news that they're speculating what he's going to be talking about. We'll address that today. Maloney is apparently not that happy. Dow went up 1100 yesterday. It's up half a point today. Oil is right below $100 based on what time just told me a minute ago. Oracle's about to layoff, you know, they say 12 to 18 percent of workforce. These are rumors that are speculating. They've got 162,000 employees. That's 20 to 30,000 employees, Rob. Can we see what the average salary at Oracle is? We know how it was 379. And then some old clips from the president came out. I got a
Starting point is 00:04:44 clip of Miley Cyrus. I want to show to you guys on what she said, which was very interesting. Professor Jang, do I say Professor Jang or Teacher Jang? Well, I don't know how to say Do I say high school country gang? Comrade. Comrade. I don't know what to say, but anyways, I mean, he, listen, good content creator, good storyteller, he's got good angles. He had a sit down with Mehdi Asan, and out of all the people in the world that I didn't think would have challenged him the way that he did. Kudos to Medi, Madi came up and just guns blazed and asked the question. So some people are claiming you may be tied to the Chinese. Is that true? Is that not? It's a fair question to ask. He addressed, by the way, if you live in Canada, guys are messaging me saying, Pat, on Instagram, we can't
Starting point is 00:05:23 see what Valuetainment does. You know stories. Canada doesn't allow. That is true. We're banned in Canada, but guess what else may be banned in Canada? If you get up on stage and you say something from the Bible that contradicts some people in offense to LGBTQ, that may be considered hate speech. And it's about to become law in the great country of Canada. That's coming soon. Mail and order, there's a story that's coming in with that. And then a few other stories. Hopefully we'll make it through all these stories that we have here. Having said that, a couple of things I do want to tell you guys. We got a lot of messages, Pat, you know, Monday, who do I go to?
Starting point is 00:06:00 If we don't have the podcast, we were expecting, we changed the business podcast. Yesterday I sat down with Lee Strobel for two hours. Great conversation. The author of Case for Christ. Tomorrow we're going to have Richard Werner to talk about the economy, and I'm very excited about talking about it with him because he's got very good angles he goes through. But to those of you guys, that message, thousands of you, that message saying, we miss you, We want to hear the conversations.
Starting point is 00:06:23 We want to hear the exchange, and the podcast keeps climbing. Every time we're doing a podcast, it climbs, and it happens because of you guys. And I'm grateful for you. And for the 51% of you guys that tune in on a weekly basis, we would like to take that down to 25%. 51% of you, 51% of you that watches this, who doesn't subscribe, it would mean the world to us if you do so. We're real close to getting past 3 million.
Starting point is 00:06:46 We'd like to take this thing to 5 million subs and take Viatimim to 10 million subs. like Tim is right now, it's 7.1 million subscribers. And that only happens with your help. So if you don't mind subscribing and subscribing to the channel, that will be wonderful. We're grateful for that. And then next, many of you said, hey, I couldn't make it to the SLS. We have people from 40 plus countries attend sales leadership summit, the greatest event we ever had. And if you're watching this, yourself saying, how do I get the recording?
Starting point is 00:07:12 How do I get what the event was all about? Rob, is this the clip? If you want to play the clip, go forward. This was the SLS. At the end of the meeting, this is the SLS event. that we just had. Go for it, Rob. We just finished the 2026 sales leadership summit at Trump Dorel. People are literally just leaving right now.
Starting point is 00:07:28 The greatest event we ever have. Content I've never spoken on before. And it's 250 page manual. If you want to be won the first to get the recording, it's officially available. Click on a link below. Place your order. The type of content to help you a sales team, go to the next level. All right, there you go.
Starting point is 00:07:46 There's a QR code. Click on a link below as well to purchase the recording. had an event. We had never have we had an event like this, but we had this many companies over $100 million, attend this event. We've never had. We had a guy sitting in the corner of my table at $300 million flew him from Finland. At six guys sitting on this side with $100 million, a guy sitting right across from me, $375 million, EBITA is what he had. Another guy in the corner, toilet paper business doing $220 million a year from Miami. Incredible quality. If you want to find out more about the event, click on a link below, get the recording. It's officially available
Starting point is 00:08:19 before you to get. Having said that, let's get right into it. Opening topic that I want to address with you guys is this. Adam, you're on the Dave Smith, you and Dave Smith did a debate together on, what do you call it, on Pierce Morgan. I think that's the first time you were ever on. Obviously, the market has responded, and they've been, you know, saying their thoughts on how it went, what you did, what was said. Dave has retweeted and said something about, this is the end of Adam funeral. He made some comments. That went viral.
Starting point is 00:08:53 You've responded. You made some videos at him as well. But I just want to kind of get, because a lot of times from the audience, you have to know how this works. The audience sits there and watches and says, I know for a fact Pat prepped him and the team prepped him and this and this and that,
Starting point is 00:09:07 and they don't know what happens. I want you to share with us, because the audience is curious. They're asking me, what is your impression on how you did on the debate with Dave Smith? Well, despite what you think, I haven't listened or watched any of the internet comments. Zero.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Like I don't go on to Twitter. I don't check the comments. It's just not something that I do. Some people are messaging me on my neck. What do you think? I don't know. People are saying stuff. And I'm listening to a song called,
Starting point is 00:09:32 Ain't nothing going to break a must drive. Ain't nothing going to slow me down. And that's how I feel about this. So they told me last minute, hey, you're going to go on Pierce Morgan. Sure. I think Tom was maybe going to do it. Tom wasn't able to do it.
Starting point is 00:09:44 They called me up. I said, sure. I'll debate Dave Smith. Listen, there's no doubt that Dave Smith is smart or wise or well-read. Yeah. The same thing could be said about when you debated a room full of 20 communists on Jubilee. They were all very smart. I was very impressed by all these people.
Starting point is 00:10:02 But just because you're smart doesn't mean you're wise. Now, do I think Dave Smith is smart and capable? Sure. Do I think he's funny? No. Do I think he's right? Definitely not. I'm asking you.
Starting point is 00:10:12 How do you think you did? I think I did fine. My intention wasn't to be. play nice. So I went on Pierce Morgan. I don't really have plans I'm going on Pierce Morgan every single day. That's not my thing. It's a food fight every single day. Respect to Pierce Morgan. I wanted to make some waves. That was my methodology. I could be right. I could be wrong. I don't care. Okay. So the problem is this. You said you don't care? No, meaning like I don't care what the market thinks of me. Yeah. I know what I believe. I know who I am.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I know what I stand for. I stand for what America stands for. Dave Smith, what pissed me off, he continues to say that America is the greatest terrorist regime in the world. So what? And that Israel is the greatest terrorist regime in the Middle East. So what? That's his argument. Sure. That's his argument.
Starting point is 00:10:54 My point was that only 1% of Americans vote for libertarians. He's a hardcore radical libertarian. So when you wrote the book, Choose Your Enemies Wisely, you said, who's your enemy? I said, I don't know who my enemy is. I don't really have a lot of enemies. You know me, Pat. It's a big difference between the Internet and comments in real life. I walk around in real life.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I have zero issues. You don't have issues there. That's not the conversation I'm having. The conversation that I was just basically establishing is that Dave Smith, as potent as he might be on a podcast, or even on Joe Rogan's for that matter, people don't support this guy. I support our troops. I support America. I support our allies. I think Joe's had him on 20, 30 times.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Irrelevant. No, it's not irrelevant. So ask whether you agree with the guy or not. you know, Joe likes Dave, right? So the question you've got to ask yourself is, from my perspective, there is issues, there is approach, there is what's next for you. When I look at everybody in a marketplace, including myself, everybody in a marketplace, including myself, I leave and I say, okay, how am I recreating myself for this next phase? What areas do I have where it's a leak for me? What habits do I have that I need to pay attention to?
Starting point is 00:12:10 When we started building an insurance company, yesterday I had Lee Strobel and we had a great conversation together. One of the guys that would study a lot was Billy Graham. And Billy Graham and his friends in 1948, they came out with something called a Modesto Manifesto. And at that time, there was a lot of pastors that were getting caught up with young girls. And they came up with this thing saying, hey, what are our threats? And they came on with the threats that they had.
Starting point is 00:12:32 It was four things. One of the ones was pastors hooking up with members. Number two was churches taking advantage of the members with money. Number three was the ego of a pastor when you get on stage and you feel like, you know, you are God. Like some pastors actually become Godlike because of how much the church fears them and they like it anyways.
Starting point is 00:12:53 They go through this. I said, okay, how do we want to build this company? It's very hard to. So you got to think about ways to improve. I'm asking you. The argument is one end because I don't know if you focused on making a I've seen you make better arguments with Basim Yosep than you did with Dave Smith. I didn't see you making arguments on Dave Smith.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And the reason why I'm doing this with you openly, and I'm talking to openly with you, is there's an element of also representing where you're coming from, where the expectation is, hey, what do you go and be professionals? That's not how I handle debates. I don't handle debates that way. That's not my MO. So if you're close to me and you're handling it that way, that is not my style. I don't do stuff like that. And Dave and I don't even agree on some of these issues. But if I'm having a conversation, it's about what is this next phase?
Starting point is 00:13:42 And by the way, the reason why I'm having this direct feedback with you publicly is for the following reason. This is how I roll at them. I will give you private feedback and have your back 100%. I've always been like that. This is why my guys like working with me. And they know how tough it is at that time because I'm always challenging them. But if my private feedback that I'm giving doesn't land, and it feels like you have immunity to go run around and say whatever you want to keep saying,
Starting point is 00:14:11 I don't give a shit what people say. I do. There's an approach to take about this game. I don't care that we have differences in debates. We push each other here and we have arguments and, you know, comment, I side with Vinny today. You know what? Today, actually, I side with Adam.
Starting point is 00:14:25 You know, there was a couple moments where you had a couple clips of like, they sided with you. I think Adam's the point today. And I'm like, oh, okay, Adam had to be. a point. And then, hey, Tom, no, I'm siding with Tom today. Pat, you were off today. No problem. But it's recreating for the next phase of what is that next phase for you. And that's a very important thing for you to be thinking about. I've had that conversation with him, recreating himself. I've had the conversation with him, recreating himself. I have the conversation openly with me
Starting point is 00:14:53 on what I need to recreate. But for me, when I saw that, I'm like, you know, you brought up another guy from the past that beat Dave. Great. You know, you brought up a, no, there needs to be the, the Adam that I've seen debate that is prepared, he actually would have made some real good points there. And you, by the way, you've been a moderator for zero hedge with Dave Smith and, and what do you call it, Laura Lumer, if I'm not mistaken. Is that what you did? Didn't you moderate? Yeah. And I was a pretty good job you did as a moderator. So, I don't know. I'm saying this publicly to say this next phase requires all of us to create ourselves, and that includes you in a big way.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And I've said this privately eight weeks ago, nine weeks who had that dinner place we went to and I was very direct with you. But you're cornering me to have to say this publicly to you right now. And you have to make a decision on what you want to do with this next phase. You've got to recreate yourself. It's a very important thing. I'm being very respectful to you. And you had no idea that I'm going to go here this morning.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You had no club going. And by the way, I intentionally changed today's business podcast to do this because Obviously, Monday I couldn't be here. We had certain things that was going on. This weekend I had, what do you call it? SLS. SLS. Sean Haddon, he did it last Friday, so I changed everything. And Rob and I, we had to talk about it yesterday and calendar to do it this way. But for me, sometimes, you know, when people say, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't care. And sometimes this is like the Trump effect. Well, Trump doesn't care. Well, Trump doesn't give a shit. Well, Trump doesn't do this. Well, contrary to a popular belief, Trump looks at every poll. Trump listens to every comment. Trump listens to every criticism. So what you think that Trump does, I'm not telling you go read the comments the next day
Starting point is 00:16:37 and go through all chat. I don't recommend that at all. But I do believe a little bit of criticism to see, well, maybe there's a little bit of credibility there. There's a little bit of value there for me to receive. How can I receive this and recreate myself? Because if you're not too careful, Adam, and I'll open it up to you guys if you want to say anything.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I'll give you the final thoughts, and then I want to get on the next story, but I wanted to open up with us get right into it. is the following. There is no April Fool's jokes today. I don't have one. Okay? So if you guys are expecting an April Fool's joke, I don't have one. This is not April Fool's joke. I know what day today is. This is not, you know, I've had certain friends of mine that are very good, I used to be very good at the April Fool stuff. I don't have one today. Maybe I'll have one for you next year when I'm in a different mood. But this is the part I want you to be thinking about is
Starting point is 00:17:19 the market is going to criticize you. There's a very big difference between the bots. I read a comment yesterday, made the most disrespectful comment to me. And the first thing I did, I went to the account. It got started in February of 2026. It has two followers follow 6,000 accounts. That's a bot of somebody that created to say it. Forget about the bots. There are some people that are given real feedback
Starting point is 00:17:49 that we have to pay close attention to because, you know, we can disagree. You know, even with the Dave Smith part. Dave Smith's issues, we can sit down and have a debate over the number, and I can still do it respectfully. You know, even when I went to Jubilee, they disrespected me. I didn't disrespect the kids when I spoke to them. Our position has to be a different position. And even when Trump calls out, he still is very paying attention to the likeability score that he has.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Love them or hate him, people like him. I'll pause. Vinny, any thoughts you had? Of course, absolutely. So I'll just break this down real quick. We didn't have this discussion prior. You just kind of preemptively brought this up, and I'm totally okay with it.
Starting point is 00:18:31 If I wanted to have an ideological debate with Dave, I would probably rephrase it that the world is a dangerous place, and he wants to pretend that he's an ostrich and not engage with anybody. So, you know, to use an analogy, if this guy was a dating coach, he would say, just sit at home all day and wait for women to knock on your door, and that's when you can respond to women. The world doesn't work that way. If you're a sales coach or if you're a sales manager,
Starting point is 00:18:53 that's like saying just stay by the phones. What do you think is the outcome of a debate? But the outcome of a debate. Forget Dave Smith. This isn't a Dave Smith conversation. That could have been John Doe. I'm not talking to. The point is that I'm trying to make with ideologically, we're not aligned.
Starting point is 00:19:07 What is the purpose of a debate? To find the truth. The purpose, it's the clash of ideas. So somebody can watch and say, wow, good point. Never thought about it that way. Let me go back and look at it, right? That is the purpose of a debate. The purpose of a debate is for me to look at something
Starting point is 00:19:26 when like the moment where Hillary Clinton and Trump are going at it and Hillary says, you know, you know, him and all his, he didn't pay any taxes and he didn't do this and he didn't do that. And then the moderator asked Trump a question and says, is it true that you pay this? He says, yes, I will use every single tax code that you have just like all her donors do. And by the way, you've been there for 36 years.
Starting point is 00:19:48 How come you've never changed it? So me as the voter sits there and says, that's a very good point. You've been to 40. That's the debate. it gets people thinking. Sure. So if I'm going into a debate
Starting point is 00:19:58 and I didn't make anybody think, what was the purpose of debate? Sure. Well, now, fair point. The point that I was trying to make is that ideologically we're not aligned here. I'm supporting Trump. Was I supporting Trump for it?
Starting point is 00:20:09 Five, ten years? No, you were not. So I'm all behind Trump. Everybody wants to criticize Trump right now. The thing that I'm basically establishing is the fact that this guy has a luxury of living in America and wants to criticize the heck out of Trump
Starting point is 00:20:20 when I'm defending Trump in our troops. The point that I was saying is, I'm defending Trump. Dave's the type of person. and that'll root for the bad guy in the bad movie. So that's who Dave is. Aside from that, other than that, I understand what you're talking about. The reason that I brought up the Coleman Hughes,
Starting point is 00:20:33 and I encourage people to go watch it. This was the sort of like the Swan Song event. Imagine you can hype up this event. Here's what's going. The SLS has come this weekend. Here's what's going on. And this debate takes place, and it was a 12-0 drubbing. So that's my point.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Should I have conveyed it a little bit better? Sure. Should I have not brought up someone else's debate in my debate? Maybe I'll learn that for the next time. That's fine. But the reality is this, he got whooped and I called him out on it. That's all it was. Yeah, but it was your fight and his.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Sure. For the next time, I'll debate him just heads on. I brought up something from the past. But my feedback isn't actually that. My feedback is it's okay to pay attention to the pulse of the market. Every once in a while, good feedback's being given. Not 80% of people, not 90% of people, but there are reasonable people that will give you good feedback.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Sure. And none of us, there's not a single human being in the world that actually likes to be given feedback that we get excited about it. So it's not like anybody likes it. But it's in those moments where your character is being tested to say, you know what, let me receive some of this and see if there's some good feedback and I'm processing it.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I'm going to turn us over to Vinny. I'll just say one thing. You know what Vinny and I do when you're not around? What's that? We say, hey, what feedback do you have for me? What feedback for me? We actually talk. We actually convey.
Starting point is 00:21:53 How many times have we done stuff like that? The difference is, you know what the difference is? What's it? Here's a difference. So this event at SLS, I asked the question because I used to always look at my guys and judge them on how hard they work, how great they're on scripts, how many books they read and all this stuff. Eventually, I'm like, let me look at it in a different way.
Starting point is 00:22:13 It was, how much information does this guy retain from what I teach? So you teach something, this guy retains 10%, that guy retains 20%, this guy, retains 30%. Then the next thing is, okay, so he's winning on retaining information. He's smarter than you, let's just say, hypothetically, right? Okay. Now the next part is what? What's after retention? Implementation. Execution. So he only implements of the 30% he retained 5%. He retained 20%, but he executes 20%. You retain 10%, but you implement 50%. Then it comes to coachability. Then it becomes the speed of implementation, then all of that stuff. feedback is feedback. It's receiving and implementing that matters. That score of coachability
Starting point is 00:22:58 high, low is a difference between you and Vinny. And that's the coachability market. That I want you to be internalizing for yourself. So Vinny, again, I don't want to be on this too long. I want to move on. This will take me two minutes. From a debate point of view, because I'll give both sides, he's never been in this environment, meaning when they send a van, when I go and do these debates with a panel of six, everybody's yelling, talking over each other, people don't realize you're in a van you're sitting in the sun in Florida I'm red I know you were hot
Starting point is 00:23:27 even what's his name was in there Jayden was in there people are like he's on cocaine I read the comments because I want to know what the temperature is the the negatives were obviously you refer to another debate which nobody wants to do you were a little off I felt
Starting point is 00:23:40 because I know you as a brother I know that you were nervous this is what bothered me Adam we are in here and I know it's going to happen today on this podcast we're going to Israel's going to be brought up and we're going to go into it You are amazing at that debate. And I was disappointed because, you know, you're in the moment and you refer to whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:57 You have the arsenal. You had the ammunition. You had this big ass arsenal and you just used a pistol. You were just like kind of going after and doing personal. And I was disappointed because I was like, yo, you have it. You have it. You didn't use it.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And this is my attitude. When I was young and I'd get my ass who up, my mom would be like, you're going to go outside and you're going to fight that guy. Right now, you're not going to sit here and let it fester. I know that you're going to do it. You have to debate them again. You have to do it again.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Okay. All right, Tom, you don't look like you have anything to say. It's all good. I don't have anything to that. Tom, it's all your fault. You're on an interview. No, no, no, no, no. Pat was very articulate about it. He's got standards. We get feedback. We try to meet those standards. We want to represent well wherever we are. Okay. All right. All good. Thank you, Tom. Let's go to the next topic I want to get into. So, Rob, do we want to get into what the president's going to talk about tonight? Sure. Nine o'clock. So there is, there was an announcement made that tonight, the president,
Starting point is 00:24:49 at 9 o'clock will be addressing, be given and addressed to the nation to provide important update on Iran. A lot of people are speculating what this could be about. Why would there be an emergency? Scott Jennings yesterday, I think on CNN or something kind of alluded to two to three weeks. The war is going to be over. There's a bunch of different. Is this at Rob? Yes, sir. Go ahead and play this clip. I think tomorrow night, based on what I'm hearing, we're going to get a couple of things from the president, probably a recitation of how he sees the last four or five weeks. the military successes we've had, the fact that we've obliterated their Navy, we've obliterated most of their missile and drone capacity, and the fact that we did take out the previous regime,
Starting point is 00:25:29 and now we're talking to new people that I think the president and the administration believe are somewhat more willing to have a reasonable conversation. I also believe we're probably going to hear how he sees the next two to three weeks when we will wrap up what he sees as our military objectives, and hopefully, you know, bring our large-scale operations to a conclusion in a way that meets all the objectives, the nuclear stuff, the missiles, the Navy, the exporting. Tom, what do you think it's going to be about tonight? I think Scott Jennings is right.
Starting point is 00:25:59 There's also been supposedly leaks to major news. It was a journal. I don't have confirmation on those, but the journal apparently had the same thing, was that the president's going to say, we have a plan, it's two to three weeks. And yesterday, the market bounced a thousand points on the voice of the president, just saying, hey, you know what? I think we got to wrap this thing up. He said some things that kind of shock people where he's like, well, you know, it may wrap up and the Straits of Hormuz may not be exactly open yet. We may have to negotiate that afterwards.
Starting point is 00:26:31 But we're going to be leaving very soon. The market loved that and it jumped on it. So it sounds like we're going to hear that. And hopefully, Pat, we hear some definitive this to it. And Scott Jennings said it best. We hope that the objectives have been met. So we didn't just go in, have a mess, leave the regime in place. And now those regime are going to bust heads of the poor people who just want a free Iran in the future.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And the rest of us that want a free Iran without nukes. Adam. So Trump is sort of doing an impromptu state of the union today. We were at the state of the union. How long ago? When was that? That was about a month ago. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:27:07 So this is sort of an updated thesis about what's going on the state of? Senate Union. I think he's going to say three things. I don't think this is just going to be about Iran. I think the three things are this. America's back. We have strength, not weakness in the Joe Biden administration. How many times do you think he's going to bring up Biden? I guarantee you it'll be a handful of times talking about how weak and inept he was and basically not even running the show over there. That the world respects the United States again. And we've had that conversation about respect over being liked. I'm sure Trump would like to be liked, but he'd rather be respected. He'd rather be both. But, but, you know, we've had that conversation about respect. but I think the world respects us again, even if they don't like us. That's number one. Number two, he's going to talk about the border because that's basically what he ran on, not Epstein, not any of this other sort of nonsense, that's peripheral.
Starting point is 00:27:52 You ran on the border and he shut it down. Ice could have gone better, but he's not going to probably throw ice under the bus. And he's going to talk about that the Dems represent chaos and he represents law and order. Obviously, there was just a no king's protest this week. Ridiculous. Trump's not a king.
Starting point is 00:28:06 So, and the last but not least, I think he's going to bring up what's going on, obviously, in the Islamic Republic of Iran. I'm done referring to them as Iran. They're the Islamic Republic of Iran that took over greater Persia in Iran. And he's going to talk about stability through strength. I talked about this in the last podcast. I'm also done sort of using the Reagan doctrine, peace through strength.
Starting point is 00:28:25 We're never going to have peace. Peace is done. All right? You want a piece of you here, a piece of you there? That's what's going to happen when you negotiate with these terrorists. Stability through strength, we just need to have some regional calmness. so the world isn't going chaotic. And then that's what I think he's going to do.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And last but not least, I think he's going to sprinkle a little bit out the midterms because I don't think it's trending in the right direction. But we saw what happened last year when there was supposed to be a red wave and that never happened. So we'll see what happens this time. Vinnie. I think Iran's going to be on the top of it.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I saw a poll yesterday that the majority of Americans are not happy with it, which whatever, it's a war. It's not going to be clean. And everybody's going to be like, oh, yeah, I love it. And I saw another thing that the Democrats, Apparently, there's a 43% chance that the Democrats are going to sweep the presidency, the House, and the Senate, which is the first time I think in the history that's going to happen. I think sometimes when, you know, people are talking everything, the president, the leader of the free world,
Starting point is 00:29:21 needs to come up and just say what he has to say. Plain and simple. Come out and say, Adam, you said something about peace. And I've been thinking about this a lot. Peace in that region, the only way you are ever, I hate when I hear. Peace in the Middle East. It's not going to happen. unless everybody there comes to Christ. I'm being dead serious.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Everybody in that Jew, Muslim, everybody becomes, comes to Christ, you're never going to have peace. Because Christ is about what? Loving him and loving your neighbor. All those neighbors, it'll never happen. Nobody wants to talk about that. All of them have to come to Jesus Christ. And I don't want to sound like a preacher up there on a stage.
Starting point is 00:29:57 That's the only way. So it's a fallacy to think that they're ever going to get, oh, we're going to love and shake hands. It's faith. But I think he does have. have to pet. He has to come out today and go, hey, guys, listen, everything that's going on, this is what I want, this is what's going to happen, and this is what's going to do. And again, whatever words come out of his mouth, we have to see action, and I get it. I'm one of these people
Starting point is 00:30:17 pat that falls for the, I'm very impatient. Ask anybody that knows me, when I say I'm going to do something I do it. When somebody says I'm going to do, I want it like this. And I'm just impatient. I need to teach myself, calm down. He's only been in, he's been in for a year. This war is a couple of weeks in. I don't want it to continue any further. I put boots on the ground, which I know we're going to talk about that. But I trust him. I've said this many times. I trust a guy that since the 80s guys.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I know we'll get there. 80s has set. Played a clip rap. Yeah, go for it. This guy, and I've, especially during 2016, and he loves this country. He's warned us about China. And in this clip, he warned about Iran. There's no BB.
Starting point is 00:30:55 BB's alive, but there's no BB Netanyahu in this moment for everybody that just, it was just so brainwashed. Listen to this clip. Because I'm running for the presidency. I'm here because I'm here because I'm. I'm personally tired of seeing this great country of ours being ripped off. But as far as Trump is concerned, our allies are only part of the problem. The real culprit is Iran.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Why couldn't we go in and take over some of their oil, which is along the sea? How would you do that? Would you send in the Marines? Would you take a chance in a war? Let them have Iran. You take their oil. That's what I do. How? How? I mean, do we want a war? What do we take their oil? You go in. How do we go in? You're going to have a war by being weak. Okay. How do we? Go in. What do we do? Excuse me. You're going to have a war. And it's going to start in the Middle East. What if the Soviet Union said you do this to Iran? We're going to come in. I don't believe they'd do it. The next time Iran attacks this country, go in and grab one of their big oil installations.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And I mean, grab it and keep it. And get back your losses because this country has lost plenty because of Iran. Let me tell you something. What year was that? What was that? He was talking about 40 years. I might be running for president. Just so you know. 39 years ago. I was seven years old. So, I mean, are you kidding me? If the people that are basically saying that Trump has compromised, this is the one clip that they didn't want coming out. Because he's been sort of piecemailing, listen, Iran's never going to have a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 00:32:16 We're being held hostage by this regime. This is almost 40 years ago. He's basically saying, I'd go in and do exactly what he's doing now. This hurts everybody's credibility that's basically trying to compromise Donald Trump. I actually wish that he ran for president then, because he wouldn't be dealing with this 40 years later. Because right now he's basically cleaning up the mess that every single president and every single year would not do with.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I think no matter when you run, I'm convinced this argument's not going to be away. I think there's always going to be a community that's going to come and say, you guys are owned by Israel, you're a puppet, you're this, you're that, you know, BB tells you what to do his, I think that's going to happen. I think no matter when you run, they're going to say, because in Iran when you run, they would call the Shah that he is a, his puppet masters are the presidents of, he's a puppet of people in the U.S., you know,
Starting point is 00:33:03 and then there's always going to, be the Elizabeth Warrens that are going to say these rich people are too rich and we got to tax them. There's always going to be the people that want to go to war. There's all, certain players are always going to be there no matter when you run for office. I think one thing that the president's probably thinking about tonight, Rob, if you got that clip of him being asked about Iran has threatened to hit some companies and do this and his answer, maybe one of his best answers I've heard because apparently folks, Iran has access to certain weapons. Like I just want you guys to know when he explain that some of you guys are going to be concerned with this, and you need to be. This is very
Starting point is 00:33:37 scary because President Trump just leaked what weapons Iran has. I'm not a fan. That is, go ahead. Go ahead, Rob. I threatened a bunch of U.S. companies today in the region, including Google, Apple. With what? What are they threatened them with? P.B. guns? They don't have much left to threaten. My question for you is, are you? I don't know. I mean, what are they, you made a same, what are they threaten them with, I don't know. Tell me, how did they threaten them? All I know was that they threatened them, sir. What does that mean? Fair enough? He said something nasty. Is the government in touch with these companies? Are you helping to backstop them? You don't even know what the threat was. What was the threat? I haven't
Starting point is 00:34:19 heard it. What was the threat? Did they say they're going to blow them up? They're going to hit them. You know what they're not going to do? They're not going to hit them with a nuclear weapon. Bingo. Is it something you're concerned about, sir? No. Iran's IRGC issues in warning that they will target 18 U.S. technology companies if the U.S. continues targeted assassinations of Iranian leaders beginning one unable first. Those companies. Oh, really? Okay. Most of those people are dead already. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, I think a part of tonight, if you think about it, there's a few things that's going on that he has to find a way to accelerate getting this war done with. I think he has to do that. I don't think he has the people like he thinks he has to extend this. I think if he continues, you know, at the beginning when they started, everybody was like, three to four weeks. I'm like, nah, it's probably three to six months.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Where are we at now, by the way? What day are we at right now, Rob? What's the exact date? I want to say it's been a month, 40. What's the day? I don't know the exact day. Did we go on the first? Exactly one month.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Is it exactly one month? Feels like 12 years. Yeah. So what day did it start? Day 32, okay? Is that what it says, Rob? Is that today's day 32. So day 32, I said three to six months.
Starting point is 00:35:28 They have to get it. wrapped up. If he gets it wrapped up, here's what could end up happening. There's going to be the far, woke right, the left that are going to say, you know, but it costs you this and it did this and who cares. Compared to Afghanistan and Iraq, it was still a bad, well, we should have never gone and done. Okay, the one person that you're not going to win, set those aside because that's noise, that's going to be there, no problem. Then there's going to be the guys that no matter what he does, he can't do anything wrong in. I do think if this thing goes past three to six months, I don't think it's going to be a favorable thing for them at all. I think if it goes
Starting point is 00:36:02 anywhere near midterms, it'll be destruction. It'll be the kind of loss they haven't seen in a long time. And that's going to be on his resume if that happens. So I do think he understands. I see, this is the part about Trump that most people don't give me enough credit for. He does this. He does this. He is checking. It's something everybody has to be doing. He does this. He's checking a pulse. And he asks, what is the market saying? What are our people saying, who's not happy, who said what? What's going on? What's trending? He wants to hear from everybody on what's going on. One of the things he realizes, do you really want to go into the World Cup having a war going on? I don't think so. You said it's not going to be a long one.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I think one of the main concerns he has is he's got to get this thing wrapped up fairly quickly rather than longer, but he also learned something because what did Maloney come out and say, Rob? What's the thing that Maloney came out and said? Do you have that clip? Maloney apparently came out and, you know, everybody remembers when Maloney was running, was like, oh my God, she's so great. Italy. She's conservative. She's going to be able to do this to Italy.
Starting point is 00:37:04 We need somebody like this. And then apparently Maloney came out a little bit criticizing. You know, Iran, Italy refuses U.S. aircraft use of Sicily's base for Middle East operations sources say. This is yesterday. Okay. This is yesterday. So he also learned with NATO.
Starting point is 00:37:21 NATO wanted U.S. to fund the hell out of Ukraine and health. him out, and that's not even our war, but now when U.S. comes out with a decision on something they want to do, NATO says no. So I think some of these relationships, they're going to be tricky moving forward. I think he learned a lot about all his enemies. I think Rubio learned a lot about a lot of his enemies. I think Rubio is going to be seeing what's going to happen in 2028 when he's running to campaign. This led to a number coming up, Rob, of where, you know, J.D. Vance is at versus Rubio. I don't know if you guys saw the recent reports of how big of a climate. Do we We have that article here as well, Rob, where, you know, numbers came up with J.D. going lower,
Starting point is 00:38:00 Rubio going higher. I just think there's a lot of stuff that's going on that Trump needs to know. He knows that if he continues, is this it, Rob, the plus minus? Yes, sir. Yeah, watch this, folks. I want you to watch the plus minus. Forget that there's nothing that matters more than the plus minus. Go ahead, Rob.
Starting point is 00:38:20 J.D. down 8. moving up. Look at Rubio. Plus 33. DeSantis down five. I think he'll be there. Junior two, Cruz, Hexsett. There's a couple names that are not here that will be there next year as well in
Starting point is 00:38:37 2027, 2028 when they run. I think there's a lot of things going on. I think the president, you can pause it right there. I think the president won this thing to be over and move on. And there's going to be a lot of criticism to say that we finish Did it end? Did you finish the job? Was it a regime change? He said the other day, he says, the regime change already happened three times since we started a war because he's saying they killed the first guy. They killed the next layer. So he said, we've done three regime changes already
Starting point is 00:39:06 in a month. I mean, he's being factual. He's being factual about saying something like that, but the regime collapse hasn't happened yet. Tom, I'm going to come to you. This whole thing with Pentagon and, you know, sending troops and Iran is just lining up ready for that with the update of USS Tripoli. We saw the video with all the ships how close they're getting. What is the latest with that, Tom? Well, the U.S. has dispatched another aircraft carrier from Newport. They've dispatched the Nimitz to go to the Mediterranean and support that left Virginia, I believe it is. And so all the show of force and all the resources are there. The Tripoli's there. The boxer is right behind it now, which is another assault carrier.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And so everything is being set up. All the chess pieces are there for whatever final onslaught they want to make. Karg Island, I'm going to pronounce it terribly, Coestra Corar Island, which is the Long Island, which is right at the hook of the Strait of Hormuz. So either one of those. So all the military assets, Pat, are there to take advantage of it. And then as you properly pointed out, you know, you have NATO flip-flopping. They're reacting to energy prices. They're reacting to their own polling at home.
Starting point is 00:40:23 So what do they do? Oh, well, we're not completely with them. Spain says, we'll close the airspace. Oh, we'll close the airspace, says France. Oh, you can't use, you know, Sicily says Italy. So it's like, come on. You know, you guys got to either are going to be allies or not going to be allies. But right now, all of the assets are there.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I'm anxious to hear what he says tonight. But everything is there. If they want to take Carg Island or they want to get hot. everything is there as well as what people, we have moved over there a ton of A10 ward hogs. And the A10 wardhog is a massive Gatling cannon with an airplane attached. And so we have everything we need over there. And then this weekend, Pat, we're hearing that B-52s,
Starting point is 00:41:08 which is a 70-year-old platform, are flying bombing missions unmolested. So the surface-to-air missiles, Vinny, all those things. that you would come up against are not happening. So it's like we need to get on to the surrender or whatever it is, Pat. And I think we got all the assets in position. Vinny. Well, when they say, you know, boots on the ground, which you've been hearing since this started.
Starting point is 00:41:32 While you were saying, I play that clip about the reporter trying to do a gotcha with Pete Hexett of boots on the ground, Rob. You've been going to play that clip, and Vinny, I'll come to you. Go forward. There's a lot of media coverage that suggested a ground invasion is imminent. What other purposes might the soldiers and the Marines to have been deployed over to the Middle East serve in this conflict? Well, just like the previous question, it's sort of military 101.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Don't tell your enemy what you're willing to do or not do, and don't tell your enemy when you're willing to stop, especially an enemy that likes to hide in bunkers and try to hoard their missiles and hope you'll wait you out. So that's not a question I'm going to answer, or the president has said definitively, we have our own goals and guidance and things were military objectives that we're moving toward and things that we look at.
Starting point is 00:42:19 And has he's articulated, you know, he said four to six weeks, six to eight weeks, three, it could be any particular number, but we would never reveal precisely what it is because our goal is to finish those objectives. And we're well on our way. And the chairman and I look at this every single day. It will be the president's determination and the president's determination alone. I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm, you know, a military strategist, but, I mean, he's a department of war.
Starting point is 00:42:46 He's the leader. He makes fantastic points. You don't tell the enemy. But if this does, because they're saying that they want to send ground troops, that's where it gets dangerous. The moment boots hit the ground. You have to think about this, Pat. Iranian drones, the missiles, ground fire, explosives, mines, all that.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And I have to be honest, I'm with you in the three to six. But now with ground troops, I think it goes a little bit past six months, potentially a year. Because think about it. You can go six to 12 months. I think it goes. If it goes six to 12 months, it's going to be a bloodbathes. I agree. But, okay, so let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Let me ask you question. Here's a question for you, for all of you, Tom. So let's just say it goes, one, say they go, regime collapse, they go in similar to Venezuela, they take over, IRGC is done. One. Two, they say they got rid of all the nuclear weapons, all the nuclear capabilities, everything, that's the next case, two. Three, they just get out and they do a PR messaging.
Starting point is 00:43:46 We got the job done. We did what we went there, what we were supposed to do. But everybody was like, wait a minute, messaging was off. You said he's going to do this. You say you're going to do that. You said he's going to do this. But none of that stuff happened, right? Which one, which event that happens between now and the midterms
Starting point is 00:44:02 is going to help Republicans the most? Which event? I think option two. Which is what? We went in there. We took out all their enrichment uranium and all that stuff. And now we're going to help them, I guess, with leadership or something, like with Reza Palavia, who said,
Starting point is 00:44:20 I'm going to wait for all this craziness to stop, and then I'm going to come in and help them leave. Is there anything they can do with Iran for it to be favorable for Republicans during midterm? Give me the most favorable situation for it to happen, for the market to be like, oh, my God, he did it again. They're going to sweep. Midterms is going to be insane. What is that one event that could happen with Iran?
Starting point is 00:44:43 The most favorable is because BB just came up. I told Rob, I sent this to Rob, you don't have to pull up. Bibi Nanyahu has declared that Iran is no longer poses an existential threat to Israel. That means all the weapons to hit Israel is gone, which is great news, okay? The only way pat that this, like the best news is, guys, all the uranium, all the missiles are gone. And by the way, we've been kind of on the side having leadership, like having a government where the people want this guy, they want Reza and this guy. and guys, they're going to start taking over, which we don't have to put no regime change or nothing,
Starting point is 00:45:19 the people have chosen. That's the only way people are going to be like, okay, you guys kept the kind of secret, but okay, good for you. Adam. I'm actually very glad that you're asking this question because this is the number one question. All I've been focusing on is the signal through the noise
Starting point is 00:45:32 of what's going on here. So Rubio came out and said it. Here it is. He says, you want to know what the objectives of the war? Here they are. Actually played that clip. That's what I want to go over. Yeah, play the clip of what Rubio said.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And then Adam, I'll come back to you. But go ahead. I think this is it. What are you saying? People are asking what the objective of this is. Yeah, I didn't see this, but I saw another clip. Go ahead. Many Americans are asking, why did the United States have to attack Iran now?
Starting point is 00:45:56 Well, let me explain. Iran wants to have nuclear weapons. Of that, there is zero doubt. If what they truly wanted, which is what they claim is nuclear energy, well, they could have nuclear energy, like all the other countries in the world have it. And that is, you import the fuel and you build reactors above ground. That's not what Iran has done. They build their reactors and their facilities deep in mountains, away from the public glare,
Starting point is 00:46:20 and they want to enrich that material. The same equipment that they could use to enrich material for energy, they could use to quickly enrich it to weapons grade. So it is clear that they've been offered every opportunity to have a nuclear program that allows them to have energy, not weapons, and every single time they have turned it down. But why the attack now? Well, what was Iran trying to do?
Starting point is 00:46:41 Iran was trying to build a conventional shield, in essence, have so many missiles, have so many drones that no one could attack them. And they were well on their way. We were on the verge of an Iran that had so many missiles and so many drones that no one could do anything about their nuclear weapons program in the future. That was an intolerable risk. Under no circumstances can a country run by radical Shia clerics with an apocalyptic vision of the future ever-possessed nuclear weapons? and under no circumstances can they be allowed to hide and protect that program and their ambitions behind a shield of missiles and drones that no one can do anything about. This was our last best chance to eliminate that conventional threat,
Starting point is 00:47:23 that conventional shield that they were trying to build, and the president made the right decision to wipe it out now. That is the goal of this operation, to destroy their conventional missiles and their drone program, so they can't hide behind it and finally have to deal with the world seriously about, never ever having nuclear. Yeah, I mean, listen, sometimes you don't need to debate a million different things
Starting point is 00:47:44 when someone comes out and tells you. Now, here's the question I'll ask. Do you believe Rubio? Because for me, when I see Rubio, I have a very calm presence. I know he's not going to say anything bombastic. I know he's not going to try to antagonize people. I actually think that Rubio is a very stabilizing voice in the Trump administration. And the poll that we just showed proves it, did it not?
Starting point is 00:48:03 Plus 33, yeah. So to me, this is how I process this. This is a moral and just war that needed to get done. Trump is the man of the hour, and he needed to be the person to do this. 1987, he talked about this. How many presidents have we had since then? Ten different presidents, whatever it's been, nobody's done anything. Or they haven't done anything enough to basically mitigate this threat from Iran.
Starting point is 00:48:26 So Rubio come out there and says, listen, guys, there's three very clear objectives. Number one, we're going to completely destroy their military. All their capabilities, their Air Force, their Navy, their ballistic missiles. Why? because they have this shield. How many times did he mention shield in that little two-minute speech, at least three times? It's basically shielding their nuclear ambitions.
Starting point is 00:48:45 And yes, they have nuclear ambitions. That's not even a doubt. Last but not least, we're going to defeat their terror network, which they've done with their allies, Israel, namely. And so they can't basically fly their planes, which we just took out their air force, so they can't fly their planes to drop off weapons to Hezbollah or to Mahas or the Houthis. So to me, this is stability through strength.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Iran is never... Listen, I know you've talked about being sort of like the doomsday approach. We've got to take them all out. In my approach, this is it. We're completely defanging these people. They use that term. You guys want to be radicals. You want to be Shiite, radical Muslims.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Go right ahead. You want to kill your own people. Do you, buddy? We think you're disgusting. We don't agree with you. If you want to do this thing in your neck of the woods, that's all you. But you're not going to hold the rest of the world hostage
Starting point is 00:49:35 like North Korea. And I'm so glad that Trump and Rubio have this moral clarity to mitigate this cancer now. You know what you just made me think about what the president could announce tonight? Let me tell you what he could announce tonight. You know what would be a massive announcement tonight? How much has the war cost so far? Is it 33 billion, 35 billion, 40 billion? What's a number, Rob? How much has the war cost us so far? What's the number? No, it's a higher number than that. I saw $25 billion. Okay, let's just say, let's say $25 to $35 billion.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And then they ask for an extra, I think, $200 billion. $200 billion. With a B. Hickson, ask for $200 billion. But let's say so far it's cost $25 to $35 billion. Okay. Imagine he comes out tonight and he says, hey, big announcement. we just officially finalized a deal that UAE, MBS, Qatar, and the Gulf states have decided to fund the war against Iran.
Starting point is 00:50:41 You won't be paying for it. They have decided, and here's what the message is from them, now what do they say? So imagine, so the argument of finances and taxes, that goes away. He says, imagine how much the people who are against. against this war, they said finances first. Imagine how important this has to be to the Gulf states where they're sitting there saying, we don't want any of this.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I want to play you two clips. We don't want any of this so much that, guess what? We're willing to pay for it. You know how you got $18 trillion of companies that commit in countries that committed to investing here? What is it to couple of these Gulf states to say, I'll give me $200 billion. We'll fund it.
Starting point is 00:51:19 We'll pay for it. If that announcement is made tonight, but let me tell you, it shuts a lot of people up. Let me tell you why I think that's a possibility. Rob, do you have that clip from MBS explaining what his thoughts were? I think I send that. You should have it somewhere where he's talking about Iran.
Starting point is 00:51:39 And then after that, I want you to go to one other clip. And then I want to go to the other stories. If you don't have it, I can text it to you. It was in my notes, by the way. Let me just send this over here. It's in my notes. I'll just text it to you, Rob. I'll make it easier for you.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Rob and I, you know, listen, we text 50, 100 times during the podcast that nobody knows. Rob, we're on texting mode at this point. Rob, if you want to go to, I just text it to you. Right there. I want you to watch this. MBS. Who is MBS? The king.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Pretty heavy-duty guy, right? Play this clip. Play this clip. Go ahead, Rob. Read. Most of the destructive projects are currently founded in the Middle East. And right next to us in the Kingdom of Saudi, there's an Iranian regime that we all know has a purely ideological goal. Its aim is not to serve the interests of Iran or the Iranian.
Starting point is 00:52:27 people, but rather to serve the Iranian ideological interest. There has been plenty of evidence over the past 30 years, the most recent being when they received $150 billion, and didn't even build a single street housing complex, their goal is clear that they only spend that money on launching missiles at Saudi and supporting terrorist organization in many parts of the world. Furthermore, the Iranian regime's work is supporting terrorism is not limited to Hezbollah or Houthis. We find today that many of the Uttis'I and these people, we find today that many of the
Starting point is 00:52:57 al-Qaeda's leaderships are based in Iran, including the son of Osama bin Laden, who was nurtured and raised in Iran, and now is trying to become the next leader of al-Qaeda. We are all aware of the risks, and we are communicating on how to deal with them, to ensure that the entire world is safe and secure whether in the Middle East Europe or anywhere else, from these destructive ideologies. Okay, so you watch this. And who knows their neighbors better than a guy that lives in that community? Nobody.
Starting point is 00:53:33 So if I was to ask you right now, you live in a community, and imagine I'm telling you what your neighborhood is like. You don't know them. And you live there for 20 years, but you're like, what are you talking about? It's not like that. I live there. Okay. Do you know in Saudi if you go around committing crime, would they do to you in Saudi? You know what the tolerance is?
Starting point is 00:53:47 Oh, you're finished. If you steal, do they still chop your hand off? Do you know what the tolerance they have there for crime? Do you know what they'll do to you if you go speak radical languages? Now, I want you to see support. of IRGC in the streets, how they're speaking. I want you to watch how this woman speaks. And tell me if you think in their hearts where they're at.
Starting point is 00:54:06 These are civilians. These are not leaders. These are civilians giving a message to the president. Go ahead, Rob. To Trump, we're not scared. You can't scare us. We are Iranians. We're not scared.
Starting point is 00:54:19 We're not scared of your bombs. You lack what we don't. You lack faith, what we don't. We have our faith. Listen. We have our faith on our soil, on our country, on our leadership, what you don't. You don't have courage we have. You lack your soldiers lack courage.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Your soldiers like courage. Our soldiers don't lack courage. So remember that you're the loser. You're the loser in this war. That's for sure. You already have lost and you know that. Listen. Look at her.
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Starting point is 00:55:04 Daparer. Do they're Tohose back Back again? This is to Yeah. So just letting you know on where they're at, right? I live with these people.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I live with them. There was two channels That they're repeating things over and over and over again. I want to give credit to peers. Peers had one of the spokesperson on and the guy almost walked out. I don't know if you guys have seen this clip or not. Where he pushes back, he says, respectfully,
Starting point is 00:55:29 there's a big difference between you guys and us. Is this it, Rob? Go, click on this one. I'll let you know if it's just the one or not. I'll tell you what, we'll end it like this. I've had you on my show many, many times, right? When do I get invited on Iranian state television? Oh, you've gone. I invited you to Iran, Pierce.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I invited you to Iran. I'll do it like you do. I'll do it like you do. Very good part. On the barrel of a camera, you put me on Iranian state television and let me say what I think about Iranian state television in the way that I let you come on my show and criticize my country and the United States and the West. Fair's fair, right, Professor? Because you've got freedom of speech in Iran. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:13 No problem. In me, Piers Morgan, going on Iranian state television and hammering your regime. Only, you won't let that happen and the regime won't let it happen because of it. amongst the many things that you repress, the biggest thing you repress is freedom of speech. That's why you can't talk out against your regime and that's why you wouldn't let me
Starting point is 00:56:33 go on state TV in Iran and talk out against your regime. And that is the difference between us. So you can try and take the high moral ground but the reality is that is the difference. The best I've seen Pierce Morgan do. By far. But it's a point to understand
Starting point is 00:56:49 what that climate is. So if tonight the president gets up, and announces that the Gulf states have agreed to fund everything that we're spending, the market is going to be confused on what angle to take with this. And they're going to be like, yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah, but. So at least one of the issues with money's been addressed. So the other issues that he has to address as well, which is the bigger one. What's the other one?
Starting point is 00:57:14 When it's over. When it's over are troops on the ground, like, is that going to happen? So how they're going to address that? Nobody knows. You know, Hex, that said three weeks ago. That's president's decision. If he wants to do it, he has a choice to do it. But I guarantee you he is thinking about every single one of these things.
Starting point is 00:57:30 That's it. The Pentagon prepares for weeks of ground invasion. Vinny, I'll come to you and I want to go to next time. Okay, and I'll do a fact. And the only thing that bothers me, A, ground troops, because it's our soldiers. I don't want any of our men, women dying. The only thing that bothers me, Pat, because Adam, you brought up Israel for a second. They're saying that they're not going to send any ground troops.
Starting point is 00:57:49 No, you did earlier. No, you did earlier. You did. And you're talking about the people over your own, but I'll get to. that too. Israel's not going to send any ground troops because it does not have the logistics to sustain the forces that far from home. But
Starting point is 00:58:00 the one thing that pisses me off is, like, right now, they have boots in the ground in Lebanon, and they're actually seizing land. They're creating a buffer zone. Whose boots? Israeli boots. No, no, that's what I'm saying. And Tom, and Adam, I want to hear your opinion on this.
Starting point is 00:58:16 They have boots on the ground. They're seizing land. So, you're not going to put boots in the ground in Iran, which by the war is for both of us, allegedly more for Israel than us, but then you have people there, you have your boots on the ground, 600,000 of those Lebanese people have to move out.
Starting point is 00:58:33 They say that they're going to be able to come back. And that's what, like, that tells me clearly that the logistics is for them when it serves their objectives. And I said this on the first podcast we did on the stage in the other building. If we send a thousand of our American troops, I want 1,000 Israeli boots on the ground as well. But from what I'm hearing at them, from what they're saying, it's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Okay? And like, what do we, like, I disagree with that 1,000 percent. And earlier you said something about, hey, if they want to kill each other and whatever, the people, whatever, this whole thing started. My, from what I recall, is for the Iranian people. The Iran, by the way, who we haven't heard a people from. I have your back. I have your back.
Starting point is 00:59:14 And I haven't heard one. This guy that we just saw, he has Wi-Fi. He's sitting in a room. He's talking to Pierce Morgan. what happened to the people? I haven't heard anything. I haven't heard any updates. And that's what I care about.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Because to me, besides the missiles in your uranium, what about the thousands that were in the street fighting and dying and pushing out their voices and the wrestlers that were being hanged in the middle of the street? That's what this comes down to. And I'm very disappointed that Israel's attitude is, nah, we're not going to put troops.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Meanwhile, we're trying to expand somewhere else. And then when you bring up the Greater Israel Project, people are like, you're crazy. By the way, that's a very valid question. If very valid question, if I'm sending my guys, you've got to send your guys. If you don't send your guys, I'm sending my guys. Even the most logical player cannot sit there and say, what are you talking about? Even the most logical player.
Starting point is 01:00:07 And by the way, even more from your end, I don't even want it to be one for one. I don't even want it to be one for one. It's got to be two for one, three for one. Because this benefits you more than it benefits me. I know we're partners, but it's got to be a two to one or three. to one situation when that's taking place. And then what does that say, Pat? What does that say about your ally that they're like, no, we're good, but you're over
Starting point is 01:00:28 here, you're expanding? Like, wait a minute, time out. This is the situation we're at- The expanding part of Lebanon is your concern. But walk me through it. How is that a concern of you? Why is that a concern of you? Because right now, right now, the focus should be this war.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Not if you're defending- That's not how this works, though. No, that's not how this works. And let me tell you what I mean by that's not how it works. So a lot of times when you're in a very, very chaotic situation, like when the, okay, let me put it to you this way. Remember when COVID happened? How many banks were getting killed and crushed? Remember, Tom, when COVID happened, how bad was it for some banks?
Starting point is 01:01:09 It was scary for a lot of guys. Very scary. Okay, so who capitalized off that crisis? Go ahead. No, no, watch this. Jamie Diamond. How many times? multiple. Multiple times. You know why? Because he had all the dry powder to absorb the banks because he
Starting point is 01:01:25 understood that what was coming. So let me ask you a question. Would you call Jimmy Diamond an expansionist? Of course. It's not even hesitation. I call him a business guy. I know. But what I'm saying is in this reference, he's an expansionist. You're expanding and he bought up other banks that couldn't handle it. You don't think in this situation, hey, Netanyahu's going to be an opportunistic guy and saying, hey, let's take this. Let's take that, let's take this. Of course he is. Trump would do that. If Trump, you don't think Trump's going to be taken over Cuba? What do you call that? I think, you don't think if Trump gets a chance to take over Greenland, he will? You don't think if Trump gets a chance to take over, he will? Of course. So, okay. So the part, the part where I'm going with this is the following.
Starting point is 01:02:10 You can watch a guy and criticize him on a few different things, but also be able to sit there and say, I understand he's being opportunistic and taking advantage of what's going out right now, and he's getting everything he can at this point. Trump does that, he does that. I get that. I, if I'm on the phone with him and I say, wait, you want me to send how many? I'm going to send this, but here's a deal. For every one I send, you send three. For every one I send you sent two. Because if you're getting out there saying, we're not going to have any boots on the ground, guess what? Yeah. Why am I sending my boots on the ground? Yeah, that's my problem. So then if I'm sending my boots on the ground, guess what I have to get from you?
Starting point is 01:02:46 No, not boots. You don't think if I'm sending my boots on the ground behind closed doors, I have to negotiate a strong deal to get more things out of you? Oh, of course. I think so. That we don't know. Yes. I don't know that part. So that's the conversation. I don't know. Yeah. There was a rumor that came out. I don't know if you guys saw this, that JD Vance called Netanyahu. Did you guys hear about the story? No. Did you hear that one rob or no? I did not. Yeah, that JD called Netanyahu and it's like, hey, you know, why are you making us going to this war? And allegedly this happened, you know, angry phone call with, which news is that? J.D. Vams rips into Netanyahu on a phone call over
Starting point is 01:03:21 Iran report, allegedly. Nobody knows us for a fact. Go a little bit lower. And Van Smojovran during the phone call, Van Gogh, that his predictions about the war, which he told Trump about had not come true. Netanyahu allegedly told Trump that the Iran war would be quick. As of now, the White House is considering sending more troops before the war, Bibi really sold it to the president as being easy as regime change, being a lot likelier than we. what it was, one source told Axios, and a VP was clear-eyed about some of those statements. Go a little bit lower. What's so different about the Jesse is that the president has clearly identified about this, Jesse, is that the president has clearly identified what he wants to
Starting point is 01:04:01 accomplish, and there's just no way Vance said during an interview. So here's the, here's the thing also with Vance on what he's doing. Okay. It's funny. Like when I, when I watch Vance versus I watch Rubio. This is the vibe I get. I get a vibe of a guy that is making all his moves so calculated for career advancement versus a guy that's doing what he thinks is the right thing to do because he believes it. So let me give you the difference. I've worked with a lot of guys from both ends. I don't know if you understand what I'm saying, Tom. I know exactly what you're saying, and I'm with you. One guy is doing his job and he believes it. The other guy is positioning. He's imagining.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Yes. So I think JD right now is, you know, this phone call that was made is like, hey, make the phone call, leak it to the press. Yeah. Leak it to the press. Why? Because he wants the non-interventionist, those guys who say, oh, wow, that's my guy that did this. Where Rubio, honestly, like, who do you think is more resolved on what he or she is doing that can handle the criticism?
Starting point is 01:05:10 Marker Rubio. It's not even close. Of course. He's like, no, this is what I believe and this is what I'm doing. Here's what we're going. And I've been saying this for a while. I want to be documented saying this in 2015, 11 years ago. So to me, these types of calls that are happening, it's more a positioning call than it is a, you know, tell them how hard I was on BB.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Tell them how hard and how much I pushed them. Use these words. Oh, my God. Look at the backbone and all this other stuff. Now, this could be a true story. and maybe I'm pushing it too much. But I'm just telling you, I see some of the stuff that's happening that's too opportunistic.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I think you're right. Vinnie, picture the primaries in 28. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Who picked up the phone and called BB and said, how could you? I did. I see that. Who said I was less enthusiastic?
Starting point is 01:05:59 I see that, Tom. And I see that. Remember the president said, because Trump said this about J.D. Vance, he's less enthusiastic about the war. And what's the script? The script is going to be, not going to lie to you. I was conflicted.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Yes. I was conflicted. But in say anything, and I supported the commander-in-chief. Oh, yeah. I was conflicted, so we'll see. Adam. Yeah, I don't know what J.D. Vance's strategy is. I would give him one piece of advice.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Don't cross Trump. It's not going to work out well for you. But I'm just going to go rapid fire here because we covered a lot of things. Number one, Trump and MBS, you talked about him. They have a bromance. It's not even close at this point. They are genuinely friends and they're cool. I wouldn't even say that BB and Trump have a bromance.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I think there's just strategic allies that negotiate. and are on the same page, maybe 80% of the time. But they're not fully, fully, fully aligned, nor should they be. Everyone has their own interest in there. But Trump and MBS do have a special relationship. And yes, I think the Gulf states, and yes, I think the regional actors should pay the price. We're protecting your ass, Saudi, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Oman. Who's attacking you?
Starting point is 01:07:06 Not Israel. Not U.S. It's Iran. we know the threats there. So yes, pay up. Just like NATO has to pay up. Just like he's made them go from 2% to 4% to possibly 5%. As far as Israel boots on the ground, I don't know anything about this, but I'll give my assessment. Do you how many wars they're fighting? Do you know Israel's the size of the state of New Jersey? Do me a favor. Pull up the map of the Middle East. We'll talk about expansionism for a second. Israel's this tiny. How many people do you think I have in their military? They have wars going
Starting point is 01:07:36 on in Hezbollah on their north. They have Gaza and the West Bank on. their east and their west, they get the Houthis on their south, and we need to take our small, little mighty military and export it outside the world. We literally just don't have the manpower. So as far as expansionism... That's not the point, though. But hold on, let me finish my point.
Starting point is 01:07:54 As far as expansionism, but, okay, you want to talk about boots on the ground? Israel has 1 million percent more boots on the ground right now. You know what they're called? Mossad. You know how many people of Mossad that are in... That negotiation doesn't work with me. No, that negotiation... Okay, but it doesn't matter what it works with this, sir.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Let me explain to you. It matters what works with our president. Let me explain to you. Can I finish my point? No, you can't. Let me explain to you on this specific and then you can finish your thought. For me is that is a very cold argument to make to somebody who has lost a family member to a war that they didn't support.
Starting point is 01:08:29 That's exactly the point why so many people hate these effing wars because they lost a child. They lost a brother. They lost the son. Go talk to those guys that have a job in a military that have to go explain to the mom and dad. Your son just got killed. And for the rest of that person's life, that parent's life, go tell them, hey, support this thing here. No. To me, Mossad is Mossad.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Go do what you're doing with Mossad. If I'm putting our kids' lives on the line, where are you with it? Who? If U.S. is going to send troops and our Marines, the best of the best of the world, if they're going to go. And our guys are going to be there, I expect you to be there as well. Who's you? You be in Israel. But why are we only talking about Israel?
Starting point is 01:09:11 Didn't we just talk about Saudi? Because they were the ones that were talking about Israel. Are we not sending any other troops? Are we not sending Qatari troops? Are we not sending Saudi troops? This is the war. Mainly, but you just said, are they going to financially support? When the war got started, what was the war?
Starting point is 01:09:26 Rob posted it. First podcast we did. You know what Rob posted the title? The Israel-U.S. attack on Iran. Bingo. That's what is. When the war first started? It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:09:38 and now other people are coming and saying we're involved. No, no. This is the latest iteration of this. No, if there is, is Saudi known for having a strong military? Is that what they're known for? No, neither is Iran. Who is known for having a great intelligence,
Starting point is 01:09:54 great military, great air force? United States. Who else? Israel. Exactly. Yeah. So if... Okay.
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Starting point is 01:10:51 Learn more at aboutamazon.ca. If I'm putting troops on the ground, I expect you to put troops on the ground as well. Sure, I'm with you on that. Let's not pretend that Israel isn't already fighting a war hardcore for the last three years. Yeah, but United States. But guys, I'm an American. Well, hold on.
Starting point is 01:11:11 I don't want to see our American troops over there. I don't want troops over there. But Adam, I'm not condoning that. If we're in this... It's to pretend that Israel isn't already fighting wars. Hold on that. And defeating their enemies would be naive at best. You can't say this room.
Starting point is 01:11:22 You can't sit in this room all of us right now. And we're going to plan that we're going to go in that room and beat the crap out of everybody in the studio room. And then when it's time to go, you're like, no, no, I got other fights to fight. No, no, hold on. I'm not assuming. That's not what's actually happening. Israel said it. Israel said it.
Starting point is 01:11:36 So then the United States should say this. Hold on. So the United States, my country should say this. well if you don't send anybody we're not sending anybody we have the hold on hold on isn't how we negotiate it works and if they go oh okay let me think Adam in 2003 the iraq are we walking around us you've got united states it just comes because bbbi nett yahu let me finish baby nat and yahu let me finish bb nat and yahu why does he have to finish because i want to make a point in two come on guy beby adam come on so for me this these are
Starting point is 01:12:03 two things you said if they do so why are they sending it without them committed to it. You're saying this. U.S. The argument here isn't that. The argument is the people in America, again, pulse. The people in America, when you get their pulse, you know what they're asking themselves? Today's
Starting point is 01:12:24 social media is a very different climate we're living in. Take the 51% of bots that do a great job and it confuse the hell out of everybody. But take some of the reasonable players that come out. And a lot of these reasonable players are former vets. I put them as reasonable. You were maybe Ranger, you were maybe a paratrooper, you were maybe a seal, or you've actually gone and seen this kind of stuff, and you've asked yourself, he was in the military, I was in a military, and you see the level of frustration, why did I do this?
Starting point is 01:12:52 This was a waste of time. And a big part of it is, I lost a friend, I lost a brother, I lost a cousin, I don't want to do it if you're not in on it as well. By the way, you said, how do we know? We don't know. You're right, we don't know. none of us know maybe they are but bi bi said they're not going to put a single you know thank you so much a single boot on the ground if you're not and we do
Starting point is 01:13:13 that is going to be a very big problem with a lot of americans i don't know who came out and said that and i'd like to validate but i would like to understand why because it's so easy to be like oh they're not doing it so obviously they're just expecting them to fight their wars that is naive at best that is the american isolationist default position how about asking peeling the onion and say well why would they say that
Starting point is 01:13:33 Why would they not want to commit boots on the crown? Are they saying that? Or are they playing strategic games here? Why are they doing that? Adam, they said, they said, why is America committed to that? Because it does not have the logistics to sustain forces that far from home. Adam, Bibi Net and Yahoo went to Congress. How many times and said Iraq, Iraq?
Starting point is 01:13:50 How many soldiers were deployed in 2003 from Israel? You fell for that? You fell for that also. I fell for what? Hold on. How many Israel? Why did we go to Iraq? I'm going to wait. Pat, tell me when I did we go to Iraq.
Starting point is 01:14:01 What do you mean? Why did we go to Iraq? Why did we go? He said, we all said they had weapons of mass destruction we're like to. How many troops? Bibi said it and we believed it. We got it. Hold on one second.
Starting point is 01:14:11 So BB runs all United States. Got it. Adam, respect. You just yelled at me and told me to let you finish. Go ahead. Let you finish. Go ahead. You're not even letting him.
Starting point is 01:14:19 No. How many Israeli troops were deployed in 2023 for Iraq or in Afghanistan? What do you mean? How many? Zero. Zero. This is supposed to be a team effort. So if we go, you go.
Starting point is 01:14:31 And they're not. So ultimately, what's your. point. What do you want to do with Israel? Adam, my point is, give you a recommendation. Guess what? What do you want to do? Put boots on the ground. Okay. If you're going to talk all this shit and bring us into war, put your boots on the ground. I'm saying it for how long. What do you think the IDF
Starting point is 01:14:44 has been doing fighting wars all over the Middle East? So Adam, soldiers, Marines, let's go. Okay, so we're going, you don't think that Pete Higgs and Benny Gans, whoever's running the IDF are discussing this? Israel's not going to put any. To me, this is so stupid. Adam, how's it's it? To pretend that they're just they're not going to do it, bro. If they do it, Alicia, you're fine. So I'm going to get
Starting point is 01:15:02 to the next story. But by the way, notice what happened with the tension here, and this is just the four of us? Thank you so much. Notice what happened with the tension here, and it's just the four of us. This is one of the issues in America to date that is truly a conversation people are having. This is a real conversation that's being had. And by the way, where do you put me? You think I'm an isolationist? What do you think I am? I think since we've invaded Iran, you're probably more on the pro- ally side at this point, not isolationists. Pro what? Pro-ally with who? With what America's military's might?
Starting point is 01:15:34 I'm not an isolationist. I'm not. I'm not, I'm not that. No, no, I'm not. Because to me, that mindset doesn't work. Because my experience in business and my experience of being in a military and having lived in a country with war, you can't be an isolationist for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Eventually, a guy's going to come and knock on your door and say, hey, you're so weak, come here, give me everything you got. You can't. You have to show strength. People have to know you can push your weight around. And every once in a while, you know, there needs to be a statement, hey, Fafo, there needs to be that reputation.
Starting point is 01:16:06 I am that guy. I'm the guy that you need to set the tone in a marketplace that they know. But at the same time, if I'm going to be on the phone with you and you're a world leader and you're asking certain requests, I'm going to say, here's how I'll do it with you. This is more important to me. I need you to show up with the following. If I'm going to put my guys on the line, I need you to put two times as many.
Starting point is 01:16:26 So can we roll play for a second? I know you want to move on. Who do you want to be? You want to be Trump? You want to be BB. What do you want to do this? Whatever. I'll be BB. Okay, go.
Starting point is 01:16:35 You go, you're Trump. You're who. Hegg Seth? Whoever you want to do. I'm Trump. Let him be Dave Smith. Hey, listen, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I don't have a problem helping you out because I think we benefit from this as well. Sure.
Starting point is 01:16:47 I want to be able to do this as well. But if I'm going to send my troops, you got to send yours as well. Okay. Let's talk about what the plan is. Okay. We obviously want to defeat terrorism. That's the number one threat. You said it yourself.
Starting point is 01:16:56 you wanted to take out the nuclear ambitions here. We've seen them kill 30 to 50,000 of their own people. They have their proxies attacking us. We've created the Iron Dome, which are basically helping you create. What is this? What are you doing right now? So what I'm just giving you doing. So what I'm saying to you is, what do you want us to do now?
Starting point is 01:17:12 No, what I'm asking you is if I'm going to send troops. I need you to send troops. Okay. How many troops do you want? Two to one. If I send 1,000, you've got to send 2,000. No, we're not, we don't have those capabilities right now. What capabilities do you have?
Starting point is 01:17:22 We need to defend because we're basically being attacked by this one. Do it by yourself. Then perfect. You just prove me right. Then don't send them. That's my point. So he says, hey, listen. Trust me, that's where we are.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Exactly. Yeah. So the United States sends troops, which I don't want them to, but they do it. But BB goes, listen, we can't send troops. That's on Trump. That's on Pete Hexette. That's on Trump and Hexed. If we're negotiated.
Starting point is 01:17:46 If they made the decision? Yes. I know. I agree. Okay. No, no, but this is not okay. If we're negotiating and you said, Adam, I need you to do this. And I can't do that.
Starting point is 01:17:55 And you go, listen, I need you to do it. If I'm negotiating, I'm not doing it without you sending troops. That's fine. You have to have skin in a game. Sure. If you got skin in a game, let's roll. You just said the keyword, skin in the game. I do.
Starting point is 01:18:06 But define skin in the game. There might be different. I got to see eye as well. You got to do more than Assad for me. You got to do more than Assad for me. So here's the skin. Here's the big question. It's death.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Here's the number one question. Do you not think that conversation is taking place? I don't know. I don't think that conversation is taking place. Come up, I don't know. I don't know about the troops at him. I am. You think they're just lolly gagging and blindly walking into this.
Starting point is 01:18:28 You have to know where I'm at with this. I guarantee you that conversation from the place and said, you do this. I'm going to do this. Let's figure this out. I'll go here. My position's been very clear. I go right. And we meet in the middle.
Starting point is 01:18:38 My position's been very clear. I study patterns. And when I get somebody, like if Moral goes and negotiates on my behalf with a carrier and I'm not in the room, I don't care. I trust her. I don't care. I trust her. If Tom is handling a massive crisis, that somebody needs to use the right words when talking to somebody,
Starting point is 01:18:58 we just did one last week. I don't care. I trust him. I voted for this guy three times. Trump. I trust that he's doing the right thing. I agree. What I'm saying to you is if this conversation comes up,
Starting point is 01:19:11 the American people are going to ask, is it one for one? They're going to ask. And if he chooses not to go, he's going to get the criticism. If he's okay with that great. Ultimately, we're saying the same thing. We trust Trump in these deals. I know, but what I'm saying to you is, the way I'm negotiating is I'm going to have you have some skin in the game.
Starting point is 01:19:29 It's the way I'm negotiating. That's all I'm saying. And that's how it should be. Guys, I got 45 minutes. I got a bunch of other stories to get into. So let me get into it. All right, let's go to the next story. Professor Jang, who was one of the guys that talked about, you know, he made the prediction on what was it, July of 2024. He said President Trump's going to win.
Starting point is 01:19:46 They're going to go to war to Iran and they're going to lose. That's the prediction that he made. And then Sagar and them had him on the podcast. when they had them on the podcast, I messaged, what is their podcast called? They actually do a very good job. Breaking points? I messaged breaking points immediately,
Starting point is 01:20:03 and I said, great conversation. The world needs to hear this conversation. Matter of fact, let me tell you, when I DM'd breaking points and told them great job interviewing this Jang guy, because guess what we need in America? We need different points. My message to him, Vinny,
Starting point is 01:20:22 Can you tell them when this message was sent? What's the date on that? Wednesday, March 4th. And what did I say in the text to them? Great work with the recent interview. Yeah, and that was the interview with Jenk. Okay. So then we invite to have a conversation with him.
Starting point is 01:20:36 He's on a conversation with another guy who, you know, he's been mouthing off a lot lately and he's doing his own thing. You know, we had a conversation with him. I don't want to talk about the individual's name. And all of a sudden he's like, well, the reason because I thought this was going to be hit piece. That's why I didn't want to go on PPD podcast They were trying to do hit piece, hit piece Having a conversation with you
Starting point is 01:20:55 That's what this guy Zhang said That's what the guy said on camera He says yeah, what was the word he was Rob? I think they were trying to set it was a setup It was a setup And I'm like I want to hear your thoughts and your angles On where he came with this conclusion
Starting point is 01:21:08 And then the person he probably least worried about You know taking a shot on Maddie Asan Kudos to Medi On this interview good for you, Metti Play this clip Rob, go for it English lit graduate And you're not a professor. I know it's your YouTube monica, but you're a high school teacher.
Starting point is 01:21:24 You're not actually a professor. Right. Um, yeah. And I'm not a professor. I'm not a professor. But I never said I was professor. It's the internet who called me a professor. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Hi, YouTube. This is Professor Jiang. Hi, YouTube. This is Professor Jiang. Professor Jiang here. Professor Jiang here. Professor Jiang here. Professor Jiang here.
Starting point is 01:21:46 You do call yourself Professor Jag, and you're not a professor. Look, look, there's a guy on the internet who calls himself the god. I'm good friends with a radio host called Charlemagne the god, but no one actually thinks he's a god. People actually think you're a professor. Professor Jiang here. So this is the part when you come out and you represent yourself of somebody who you're not. The market's eventually going to expose you. And you're going to get out.
Starting point is 01:22:12 And by the way, you know what else, Maddie asked me? So a lot of people are thinking you're with China. And you're maybe, you know, somebody that is actually. doing this to kind of hurt America because your motives are more supporting for the Chinese regime and all this other stuff. And that also came up. And he says, that's a very fair criticism.
Starting point is 01:22:30 That's a very good communicator. You've got to give them credit. It is possible that I'm a useful idiot and I suspect that there are many entities around the world who would like to amplify my message. Surely you'll understand why a lot of people think at best you're trafficking in pretty anti-Semitic tropes and at worst you're a card-carrying anti-Semite
Starting point is 01:22:48 when they see that. stuff. Medi said this. Mani said this. Spoken from a pot calling the kettle black. Yeah. So anyways, you know, when you hear this, Vinny, how do you process this? Tom, I'll come to you. How do you process this from a guy who actually was a professor at
Starting point is 01:23:03 adjunct professor? Tom was a adjunct professor at Biola and Pepperdine. How do you process that? By the way, is it really a big deal if somebody calls himself a professor and they're not? The way he was representing it, I think it is, because it gives a it gives yourself some gravitas.
Starting point is 01:23:20 And as an adjunct, I never let them call me doctor. Doctor is a PhD, doctorate. And so I always had them call me Tom, because these were MBA students. Well, wait, you like being called biz doc. He's a doctor. But he's not a doctor. But he's not a doctor. I never said PhD.
Starting point is 01:23:38 But you never say Professor Ellsworth. Can we call you Professor Ellsworth? You can call me whatever you want to call me. Would that be legal term? We could call you Professor Ellsworth? I would prefer not because I've got great respect for people that go and get a PhD. All right. So, guys, don't menect them and say, Professor Ellsworth.
Starting point is 01:23:53 I got a question for you. But if you want to take a risk and menect him and say Dr. Ellsworth or Professor Ellsworth, he may respond back to you. Go ahead, Tom. I may. So 94.7% of time, everybody gets an answer on correct. So I think this guy was holding himself out with professor to create gravitas, and he's made these predictions. He was correct. And he kind of messed it up.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Why did you do that? Why did you leave the door open? I just don't, I don't think you should have the door open like that. He says, hi, this is Jang. Some people may call me Professor Jang. I'm a high school teacher. And here's what I think about the future. That's all you have to say.
Starting point is 01:24:28 How do you, how can you just not say that? Because you leave the door open and the doors open. I concur with Professor E. But the one thing is I did, pal, was in the gym playing basketball and I sprained my ankle. And Tom, remember it was me and Adam? And Tom ran up and he was like, is it your EBITA? I'm like, it's not, that's not even a part of the body. But then he tried to give your ankle mouth to mouth.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Yeah, which was very, very weird. He told me to take my pants off. Anyway, but no, my thing is this bad. Like, it's funny because now this guy was all over my algorithm. It was just random. This professor just popped up. And I mean, flooded. I never looked at one video.
Starting point is 01:25:01 I never, and he just, he was everywhere. And then, like, you got, Adam, you talk about peeling back the onion. And you always have to take a step back when you're getting it. Sometimes, like you said, great communicator. And he made some points where I had the fact check. And I'm like, okay, let me see where this guy's at. But who are you actually working for? Why are you here?
Starting point is 01:25:17 What are you doing? And what is your modem? What is your objective? And the fact that he's saying kind of like that, he's like, well, yeah, I could be a useful idiot. He's telling you who he is. He's telling you exactly who he is. So if you take him at face value.
Starting point is 01:25:28 I think what's going on in America today is we're starving for one thing. And that's the truth. And there's so much misinformation and disinformation online. And it's so easy to just pop on your camera and say, hey, Professor Jang here. You know, don't worry about my credentials. And by the way, even if I did have credentials,
Starting point is 01:25:47 how much respect do we have for professors these days, especially in these higher institutions of learning that are 13 to one more liberal than conservative in Colombia and Harvard and such? And now we're going to put a stock in professor. So then it takes a known anti-American sentiment, Medi Hassan, to expose an alleged commie comrade
Starting point is 01:26:07 who's allegedly China first to expose his metrics. What I know is that they're always going to eat each other because the communists and the Islamists, they'll team up and try to figure something out. But at the end, the Islamists are always going to take down the communists and then the good guys got to take out the bad guys. There's a similar theme here. And here today, gone tomorrow, professor, quote-unquote, Jay. Yeah, let's go to the next one.
Starting point is 01:26:33 So Chicago Bulls, Jaden Ivy, made a couple of comments about his faith and how uncomfortable he was with the NBA being pro-LGBQ, Pride Month, all this other stuff. And he was actually a superstar. He was a star playing with the Pistons on the back court with this other guy who's a, you know, some of the NBA players would say he's a superstar. Who's a back court? Kate Cunningham?
Starting point is 01:26:56 Yeah. But this guy's on the Bulls. No, no. He was on the Pistons in the back court. Average 17 points a game. Four assists, four rebounds. This is why I tell you, I follow this stuff closer than you do. Way better than you had a lot.
Starting point is 01:27:06 He doesn't this guy think like he's sports. Anyways, Jaden comes up, says the following when he's driving. And I like the fact that at least he put the phone on his lap because he didn't want to get a ticket. Exactly. Because a camera's angle is focus on his nostrils, but try to focus on the message while he's doing this. He's simply sharing his faith and the Chicago Bulls let him go simply because of this comment and this video that he made. Go ahead, Rob. The world can proclaim LGBTQ, right?
Starting point is 01:27:42 They have, they have, they proclaim Pride Month and the NBA. They proclaim it. They show it to the world. They say come, come join us for pride, for pride month to celebrate unrighteousness. They proclaim it. They proclaim it on the billboards. They proclaim it in the streets. Unrighteousness.
Starting point is 01:28:22 So how is it that one can't speak righteousness? How is it one that, how are they to say that, you, man, this man is crazy? I'm not, I'm not the J.I. used to be. But the old J.S. dead. I'm alive in Christ. No matter what the basketball setting is, you know, I'm born again, the Holy Spirit. You know, I've been saved by Jesus Christ. Powerful.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Vinny your thoughts? I absolutely love that. So I think just Christians in the world, I hope you guys are waking up and seeing what's going on, the NBA can wave whatever flag that they want. But the moment, the moment, he talks about Christ and says anything like that, you know what they actually said? They said he's detrimental to the team because he's speaking about Bible. Guys, this isn't about inclusion. It's about submission.
Starting point is 01:29:17 My question is this, Tom, detrimental to whom? Is it the locker room, the front office, the sponsors, or the image that they sell every June because the issue is that he said Pride Month celebrates unrighteousness and then they say that instead of hiding behind corporate language, this is who he is. Okay. And as Christians out there, and we have another story coming later on about Christians and them getting slaughtered and murdered, this shouldn't surprise anybody. Jesus said what, Tom, the world would hate his followers because it hated him first. Okay. So what he's talking about, by the way, do you not see the Holy Spirit in this guy? Did you see that moment, Tom, where he goes, I'm not the same Jaden. That old Jaden is
Starting point is 01:29:55 dead. He's talking about repentance, salvation, in the kingdom of God, and getting punished for it. Mind you, he's not saying hate gay people. He's not saying any of that stuff, okay? And I guarantee you his attitude is love them. Pray for them and hope that they can come to Christ. Because guess what? The end of the day, you can be
Starting point is 01:30:11 gay. Doesn't mean you have to practice in that lifestyle. Watching porn, giving into just sex and doing all that stuff. You don't have to live that life. You're supposed to try to change. I'm not saying don't be gay, but you don't have to practice in it. And I feel for these people, Pat, and I pray for them. I swear to you.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Are you good? No. Vinny. What? The way you went into. No, I'm good. I'm saying you have to pray for them. Vinny.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Yes. Why are you gay? I'm trying to be serious. And by the word pride in this whole thing matters as well. Okay? And what does the Bible say, Tom, about pride? Pride comes before the fall. Before the fall.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Okay, it's not just a phrase. It's scripture. So when an entire league turns into a freaking banner that he can't say what he wants to say, I think it's ridiculous. And I think the bigger message, It's not about basketball. It's a reminder that you stand for Christ and the way his teachings and the scripture, public, this is what's going to happen to you.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Plain and simple. Adam. Look, I think this was a stupid decision on his part, and I'll say why. Do I agree with him on what he said? I actually do. I don't like that there's this much gay pride everywhere you go. There's LGBT everywhere you go. I don't like that there's how many different holidays that's something.
Starting point is 01:31:25 celebrate the gay uncle day and the furry day and it was just a transvisibility day. There's no doubt that there's a problem with all this. But pick and choose your spots, my friend. You've been in the league how long, three years, four years, which means what? You're about to come up on your next contract, which is potentially your next big deal. So if you're the agent, you're the advisor, you're the manager, you say, hey, listen, buddy, before you start taking a stance on these things that you're not known for. this isn't like a reverend or a pastor or a rabbi coming out and saying you're an NBA player buddy stay in your lane
Starting point is 01:32:00 keep your beliefs private and by the way you can have any belief you want but you're about 12 months away from signing a $100 million deal now you got zero so this is basically something doesn't that even give them more credibility I was just going to say you know you know what I'm not questioning his belief right because you know sometimes people you'll hear testimonies and hey at a bad place in your life, you give your life to Christ. But imagine you're at a great point in your life and you just made it. Wow. Got $100 million coming your way and you do it then?
Starting point is 01:32:31 Well, I mean, it's, your position is a very logical, reasonable agent positions. To him is like, no, this is my faith. And, Rob, what is this clip that you have here? Is this a... This is him yesterday. I believe it was yesterday talking about the backlash that he's received from his family and his wife. Let's play this and I'm going to come to you. Go forward.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Those who are around me, those are my family members. He says his own wife is not texting him back. Because of what I spoke. The truth. Saying that I'm losing my mind. Saying that I'm crazy. These are my own family members. My blood.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Man, he's psycho. He's this. He's that. Those are my own household. That's why my wife in here and she's not even texting me. Okay. Adam, keep going. So, look, my advice is get off the
Starting point is 01:33:24 internet, buddy. Because I understand if you just gave your life to Christ, that's amazing, you're excited, you want to share it the world. That's amazing, of course. But not every news needs to be shared. You just, you started up the podcast that basically said, hey, listen, I'm going to call you out publicly. Why? Because you represent me and you represent the brand. And I hear that. But this guy represents more than himself. He represents the Chicago Bulls. He represents the NBA, and he represents the overall league. And he's going rogue and basically saying, my beliefs What I believe is more important than my team, my teammates, the league that I stand for, and the logo.
Starting point is 01:34:01 By the way, I agree with some of the stuff you're staying. But time and place, because if we're going to talk about representing the brand, representing the league, you're representing the Chicago Bulls. You just went from the goat of MJ to now your brand is being known as gay bashing. I'm not saying that he's doing that, but that's what your brand is known for. Adam, he horrible timing, but with the right, you know what? You know what? You said the news that should never. ever be shared. He is sharing the
Starting point is 01:34:26 word of Jesus Christ and I commend him and I love that you said that Pat in a moment where he has everything but he is touched by the Holy Spirit and I dude I can't give him enough credit for having the gall to do Adam because you know what
Starting point is 01:34:42 if you're in the league and for a month they're representing the gay flag it's all over the place you're in on it and let's like the Pride Month LGBTQ they're pushing that T stuff that you always talk about on children. He doesn't want to be any part of it. And if you think about Adam, he's not budging to hell with the timing. His morals and his principles. And you know,
Starting point is 01:35:04 you said about, who's he making happy? If Jesus Christ is happy, you win. I don't care about your wife. I don't care about your family. I don't care about his boys going, yo, dog, we're about to come up. No, no, Adam. Let me flip it on you. But let me finish. Adam, and I love you. I know you're not a Christian. I'm telling you right now, I'm the original. The one person, the one being that is happy about this guy, but besides everybody else, is the man upstairs. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:30 But, like, you don't think he's already rich? Do you not think, hold on. No, he's not. Three years he's been in the league, he doesn't have any money? That's not major money. He's made already $26 million, and the Pistons owe him another $10 to $11 million guaranteed for your $40 million. He would have had $100 million.
Starting point is 01:35:47 You're right about the $100 million. But he's making a different point. But let me make a point to you. Okay. Adam, as a, I'm telling you right now, Adam, something changed in my life. The moment, the moment, it wasn't about me and the money and the girls and everything.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Christ, you're in a completely different path. I see it in his face. I see me and him, and he doesn't care. 20 million. Adam, I think he'd be happy with $100,000. He's been touched and it's over. And hold on, let me ask you, and I'll let you go. Do you not think another team's going to pick him up?
Starting point is 01:36:16 The NBA's done with him. The Bulls waived him. I think he's finished. I think he's going to be great for the rest of it. his life. Go ahead. So you think another team's going to pick him up? I don't see this being... You think another team's going to pick him up. No. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Is it possible? Let me ask you question. Do you think Adam Silver likes what he said? Oh, absolutely not. Okay. What happened to the Orlando Magic player? Jonathan who is he with today? Jonathan, he's still with Orlando Magic. He gets a little bit of blaming time, but he... Guess where he could go.
Starting point is 01:36:45 He could go to Orlando Magic. Do you know why? Isaac. Because he can go to Orlando Magic. He can go to Orlando Magic because the Orlando Magic owner is the DeVos family. The DeVos family, Betsy DeVos is, you know, the DeVos family devout, devout Christian, give to the biggest foundations. I think he can potentially end up with the magic, Tom. Look, you don't have to like this, and I'm going to say something here, people probably aren't going to like. And that is, you know, he has this deep faith that he's sharing on a Christian standpoint. I find it amazing that he was
Starting point is 01:37:21 boldly sharing and I understand his feeling, his faith, everything that goes with it, totally understand it. The reality in America is, and I look back at, do you remember there's a Marine named Jacobi Williamson and he got fired because he said another racist man, Charlie Kirk, was popped. The reason he got fired is popped, made it sound like he was celebrating his death. But if he was to say, I found Charlie to be racist, a lot of people are upset by it, who knows what happened here. If he says it like that, he's still employed. However, he was a recruiter, and he said popped like he was happy about it. And what the NBA, the way it works is free speech has consequences. You're guaranteed free speech of the Constitution, but you're not
Starting point is 01:38:14 guaranteed free speech without consequences in certain circumstances. In terms of employment, you're only guaranteed that you're not going to be fired because of your race, religion, nation of origin, or sexual orientation, or other discriminatory factors, who you are. But if you say something that they think your employer thinks is offensive or your employer thinks is against their foundations, you can expect consequences. And the league feels this way. We push Pride Month. We do these things. So you need, if you're going to play here, this is who we are.
Starting point is 01:38:49 Don't be critical. Don't disparage the league. And unfortunately, he, in his free speech, the consequences is that he loses his job. I hate that he did. I'm sad that he did. But this is the way free speech works in America. I want to see Adam Silver do the same thing. If there's a Muslim player that says something about Christianity or Christian players,
Starting point is 01:39:14 I want to see Adam Silver. I want to see him do the same thing. But right now, what this guy did, he exercised free speech. I hate the consequence. But this is the consequence because the league says, we own the teams. You're an employee of the teams. I want to move on. I want to move on with this.
Starting point is 01:39:31 I just want to say I agree with Tom on this one. So let's move on with this. Let's move on with this. Because the reality of it is we've been on this thing for 12 minutes. I want to go to the next one. All right, let's go to Tiger Woods. Okay, another sports story. So Tiger Woods, video comes out, back to the muckshot stuff.
Starting point is 01:39:50 At first one that happened, I was like, are people playing jokes with Tiger Woods? What's going on here? Why are they doing this? But story comes out, Rob, do you have that story here? Can you tell me, okay, is this the Tiger Woods? Yes, this is a report on his accident and what he was found in possession of. Okay, go for it. Bill deputies with the Martin County Florida Sheriff's Office reported observing several signs.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Bill deputies with the Martin County Florida Sheriff's Office reported observing several signs of impairment at the crash scene involving Tiger Woods, noting that the golf legend was, quote, sweating profusely and that his movements appeared lethargic and slow, again, that according to an arrest affidavit obtained today by Fox News Digital. Law enforcement also found two white pills inside of Woods's left side pant pocket, later identified as hydrocodone, which, as you may know, is a prescription, opioid. for pain relief. In the meantime Woods' good friend, President Trump continues to show his support for the five-time Masters champ. The two men spoke Friday after the crash. The president telling the New York Post that Tiger lives a life of pain. He has a lot of pain.
Starting point is 01:40:54 He's an amazing guy, an amazing athlete. He does have pain. Woods, for his part, told law enforcement prior to the field sobriety test that he'd undergone seven back surgeries and over 20 operations on his legs, adding that, yes, I take a few prescription medications. As for what happens next, I think probably they're going to work out some sort of disposition that does. When you see that, you hate seeing this happen to him. Yeah, I don't know if you've ever seen the documentary. They did the three-part documentary on him or two-part documentary on him. The guy's story is a fascinating story. Is this him afterwards, Rob? Or is this in...
Starting point is 01:41:30 This is literally four days before the accident where he talks about wanting to get back to playing. Yeah, he wanted to get into the Masters. Yeah. And he says, trust me, I'm trying to. My body's not recovering. I'm no longer my 20s. I'm just trying really hard. I'd love to be it. I'm going to be there. Whether I play, I don't play. I saw that. And then apparently a lot of his people around him that are loving. He just said, I'm stepping away because of the DUI arrest that took place with him. He made that comment, I believe, earlier yesterday, that he's stepping away from the game with what happened. Tom, where are you had with this with Tiger Woods? How do you process? I'm very sad. You know, Kim and I have followed him in golf for so long, just the story,
Starting point is 01:42:06 just like everybody else has done. And I saw him. Kim and I were at the 2008 U.S. Open, and we followed him and Rocco Mediate for a day and a half. And we saw the pain he was in at that time when his knee needed surgery, but he wins the U.S. Open at Torrey Pines on that kind of a tough course in pain.
Starting point is 01:42:31 We saw him. We could hear him grunt. He was right there. And so you know that he had that. And then what bothers me most is that if after all of these things to the body, he's taken opioids and now he has like an addiction, that happens to a lot of people. Russ Limbaugh said he got an addiction after, what was it, back surgery or something,
Starting point is 01:42:51 that he said he started taking the opioids and he said, they caught up with me and my body had. Jordan Peterson went through it. That's exactly right. And so these are not junkies behind 7-Eleven. These are professional people that have pain and the drug of choice. they're given as these opioids, and if they're not careful, the body reacts with an addiction and a reliance on it.
Starting point is 01:43:13 And I just hate this. Now, I don't know what he was feeling when he got in the car or whatever like that. They said he was driving fat. You know, we've all seen all the facts on that. But it just saddens me that this once great, you know, athlete now has got a lot of pain. And, you know, and I'm glad he's just saying straight up, hey, I got to work on this and I got to go away. But that doesn't sound to me like, you know, an alcoholic wife-beater given a speech in the living room. Sounds like a guy that says, these pills that are helping me, I got to go, I got to go do something else.
Starting point is 01:43:47 There's even stories out there that apparently Vanessa Trump told Tiger, she won't wait around like Ellen if he continues with this direction. And he truly wants to make a change. And Don Jr's a little bit worried because his kids are around. Thank God. You know, Vanessa wasn't in the car. Neither was their kids. So conversations there. valid things. You know, you know, when you have a friend or somebody, a family member you love,
Starting point is 01:44:11 who is truly having a hard time with something and the addiction, and everybody is trying to help this person out, but it's like at the end of the day, the only person I can do it is themselves. You can go to as many rehab places and they'll always tell you the same thing. We can't make him quit. It has to be him. Adam, your thoughts on this. I feel bad for Tiger, but you reap what you so. I'm not a golf guy. So the people that are the big golf people, the people that are the Love Tiger, probably not going to like what I'm out to say, but dude, just retire. Because you're doing nothing but ruining your legacy and ruining your brand. What does MJ do these days?
Starting point is 01:44:45 Because the reason I bring up MJ, because he's right behind Vinny, is because we're talking goats. You've interviewed many goats, Pat, right? Why does Trump not, sorry, Trump, why does MJ not do interviews? Why does he not do podcasts? He's been doing more lately, by the way. He started to. Yeah. He did the last dance because he's not trying to ruin the legacy that he could.
Starting point is 01:45:05 created. Tiger Wolf, Tiger Woods, with every swing, with every time he gets in a car, with every time he goes onto the course, he's not helping his legacy. You think people care if he wins another match or wins another round or shoots a par or birdie? People don't care. You've already solidified your legacy. All you're doing is tarnishing at this point. You know, what's the quote that I always talk about with Jack Bogle, the guy that created Vanguard? He said, when I die, I have one wish for my legacy to stay in and Tiger with every swing is ruining his legacy.
Starting point is 01:45:39 Dude, why don't you have a driver? Is this your first time you've had a car incident? Or is this the fifth time we've seen this happen? With cheating on your wife when she's smashing in the car window, with womanizing and basically running away from police, basically dealing with DUIs, getting stopped. Do you know the speed limit on the street that he was going? I know this street.
Starting point is 01:46:01 It's up in Jupiter. 20 miles per hour. How the hell does your car end up flipped? on a 20 mile per hour street. That means you are so messed up, so bloodshot, so gone, and nobody can tell you what to do. Pat, you know, always telling you, I don't want Pat to drive. I don't want Pat to drive. I need to drive.
Starting point is 01:46:16 I need to drive. I need to drive. You don't even drink. You don't take pills, much less this guy. This guy is the- I've been driving. I like driving. Looking great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:25 This guy is the anti-MJ, and he's ruining his legacy, and he's done so much for the game of golf that he's not helping at all right now. All your feedback you said, spot on, fair. It's good feedback. But let me tell you, when something happened this weekend, Tom is aware what happened this weekend. When you're somebody that is a high, intense competitor driver, you know, Jordan just did an interview with this lady,
Starting point is 01:46:56 who's this interview, African-American lady, who's a very well-known interviewer. I don't know what her name is. It's actually a very good interview. Michael Jordan with her. He just did an interview. Type an interview, Ryan. interview.
Starting point is 01:47:08 And he asked him a question, says, are you still competitive? He says yes. He says still, she says still at 63 years old? Yes. She says, why? He says, honestly, at this point, the only thing I can say is, I think I'm cursed. So the curse of competitors is they want that next high, that next masters, that next, you know, what Tiger did, stuff that we've never seen before.
Starting point is 01:47:36 But I think he can't let go then. That's not an easy thing to do, Vinnie. And I agree. Like, think about winning at that level, and he's still trying. And I'm going to be honest with you, Tom, and I know you're going to agree. Because of Tiger Woods, an entire generation started, every race started going, wait, what's, what the hell? What's going on? Adam, I love golf because of Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 01:47:58 And I followed him for his entire career. Some of those shots where he did from, like, the side. Unbelievable. Okay, unbelievable. But I think it's, you know, like, this is a huge, I know he's had a couple, this is a huge wake-up call. God forbid, bro, God forbid Adam, besides the kids in the car and everything, which I'm pretty sure they would have been, had a seatbelt, you know, hopefully.
Starting point is 01:48:21 But what if somebody was just walking in the street? There were kids in the car? No, no, no. I'm saying if they were, I'm pretty sure they would have seatbelts. And again, God forbid, Adam, he hit somebody. He's one of my favorites. If he killed somebody, imagine what that is. So this, to me, is that, like, Adam, sometimes people need a couple.
Starting point is 01:48:38 I'm saying from experience, you need this to be like, hey, listen, this is it. And number one, who's his, Pat, who's talking to him? I was at a poker tournament with him. And Russell Westbrook and Phil Helmute, this was like a celebrity poker thing. Six years ago, seven years, I don't know what it was. And I talked to Tiger and I looked at him, I'm like, this guy's having a hard time. You could tell. He's slurring, all this other stuff.
Starting point is 01:49:02 Anyways, last one before we wrap up, Rob, if you want to... Can I give you a shout out real quick? Tiger, can I give you a little advice, Tiger, if you ever see this? What do you always talk about, Pat? Reinventing yourself? The problem with Tiger, he's never reinvented himself. Are you kidding me? Dude, he's reinventing himself. So you're saying maybe he hasn't in the last 10 years.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Oh, my gosh. That's the time that it matters. I get that. Right now. In 10 years, he has not reinvented himself. You talked about Jordan. Give shout out to Jordan. Jordan's still competitive.
Starting point is 01:49:28 He's still winning. But what is he winning in NASCAR? He's in NASCAR. He just won again. They just won again. Jordan's winning a NASCAR. He's not back on the court saying, I still got it at 60, bro.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Tiger, hang him up, dude. Create something that solidifies your legacy. It does not ruin your legacy. I want to get to the last one here, and I want to wrap up early today. Rob, I saw a clip with Miley Cyrus. If you want to play this clip, it's a very good clip for people to watch.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Go forward, Rob. Miley Cyrus talks about how embarrassed she is on some of the stuff she did that she embarrassed her family. Watch this. Everything because of the choices I was making professionally. I was engaged at the time.
Starting point is 01:50:06 That didn't work out because I was sharing a part of myself that men wanted to be saved for them only. And the fact that I would pose nude or dance in very little clothes or show my body was making them feel like I was taking something away that was meant to be for them. It was really hard for me to go home and see my dad and look him in the eyes and not feel super embarrassed. Seeing my grandparents are just mortifying. There was even a time where my brother and sister didn't want to go to school because of how humiliated they were to be related to me. I lost everything because of the children. choices I was making professionally. Isn't that freaking powerful? I don't want to tell you guys. I'm going to play this. That's a, that's, I mean, not only is that amazing, I was one of those
Starting point is 01:50:42 people, I'll be honest. This is years, years, years ago. I would judge her. I'd be like, you were Hannah Montana. I would go on to the studio set, my friend, my really good friend. I won't even say her name. She was like wardrobe and everything for Hannah Montana. She signed something, right, for my niece to have passed Hannah Montana, and then she shifted. And it was thong and grabbing her stuff. And I was like, I was back. then, and it's not a Christian thing, but I wasn't all in on Christianity. I was judging her. But for her to have that moment where it's like,
Starting point is 01:51:11 oh my goodness, what, what happened? That's recreating yourself. That's growing as a human being. That's freaking amazing and good for her. And not a lot of people come to that moment, Tom, where they're like, oh my God, what, is that me? Is that what I was doing? I've been there? I saw myself on camera.
Starting point is 01:51:27 I'm like, oh my God, am I drunk? And those are the wake-up calls that you need to see one. Reconciliation is one of the most beautiful things on this planet. And Jesus Christ gives us the opportunity to reconcile with him in our eternity. And I hope this huge reconcile with the family. We've all seen all the things. I remember seeing an interview, Pat, with Billy Ray Cyrus.
Starting point is 01:51:46 And he was emotional because he was very hurt because he wondered if his little girl, if she was ever going to maybe get it together and come back in relationship. And I hope that this is a sign that this reconciliation is all seen complete. Yeah. And she was wearing a very covered shirt. Beautiful. I love it.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Why did you want to play this just so I'm curious? there's a lot of women that need to be inspired by people like this to say, hey, I showed everything and I became one of the most famous people in the world and I was wrong. I think that's powerful. I think a lot of people need to go through it themselves before they listen to people's advice. Like you always say more is caught than taught, right? I think there's going to be girls that see this. There's a lot of girls on only fans. There's a lot of girls showing their thongs and doing their everything on Instagram. And until life smacks them in the face, until a guy breaks up with them because he cares about their past more than their future,
Starting point is 01:52:38 more than their past. I think there's a ton of women that need to receive this message, but a lot of times it's going to be too late. By the way, same for men. A lot of men need to go through things, and you say, don't do this, don't do this. Some people need to put their hand on a stove before they learn the lesson.
Starting point is 01:52:51 That's my opinion. All I want to say is good for you, Miley. I hope you go through this mindset. You can really impact many people's lives. Gang, great to be with you guys. We will do it again on tomorrow. We have Richard Wern. to talk about the economy every time he comes,
Starting point is 01:53:07 it's very, very interesting what he asks. He can't wait to be with you guys in. And we'll be back again on Friday. God bless everybody. Bye bye, bye, bye.

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