PBD Podcast - Trump vs Biden Debate Watch Party | PBD Podcast | Ep. 431

Episode Date: June 28, 2024

Patrick Bet-David, Vincent Oshana and Adam Sosnick host a watch party of the first 2024 Presidential Debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump! Register for PBD's FREE Webinar - AI Revolution: Ad...apt, Innovate, Dominate - Tuesday, July 30th @ 6PM ET: https://bit.ly/3VZpsZL Purchase the limited edition Stars & Stripes VT Collection: https://bit.ly/3z6VaLM Purchase the new "Angry Patriot" t-shirt for $34.99 at VTMerch.com: https://bit.ly/4c3WsW2 Purchase tickets to The Vault Conference 2024 featuring Patrick Bet-David & Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson: https://bit.ly/3X1JBzm0h Connect one-on-one with the right expert for you on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3MC9IXE Connect with Patrick Bet-David on Minnect: https://bit.ly/3OoiGIC Connect with Vincent Oshana on Minnect: https://bit.ly/47TFCXq Connect with Adam Sosnick on Minnect: https://bit.ly/42mnnc4 Connect with Rob Garguilo on Minnect: https://bit.ly/426IG0R Purchase Patrick's new book "Choose Your Enemies Wisely": https://bit.ly/41bTtGD Register to win a Valuetainment Boss Set (valued at over $350): https://bit.ly/41PrSLW Get best-in-class business advice with Bet-David Consulting: https://bit.ly/40oUafz Visit VT.com for the latest news and insights from the world of politics, business and entertainment: https://bit.ly/472R3Mz Visit Valuetainment University for the best courses online for entrepreneurs: https://bit.ly/47gKVA0 Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time! Get PBD's Intro Song "Sweet Victory" by R-Mean: https://bit.ly/3T6HPdY SUBSCRIBE TO: https://www.youtube.com/VALUETAINMENT https://www.youtube.com/vtsoscast https://www.youtube.com/ValuetainmentComedy https://www.youtube.com/bizdocpodcast https://www.youtube.com/theunusualsuspectspodcast Want to be clear on your next 5 business moves? https://bit.ly/3Qzrj3m Join the channel to get exclusive access to perks: https://bit.ly/3Q9rSQL Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3sFAW4N Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:01:14 Ok, so tell me, are we live or no? Is this officially live? Yes, no, yes? Ok We got a crowd here in the house, make some noise Awesome the house make some noise. Awesome. So we did it slightly different today. We said we're not going to sell tickets but it's only 25 people that bought merch. We're able to bring a friend with them today which is great to have you here today. We got some friends from the VT team that are also here. And then obviously tonight's the heavyweight matchup between two guys, right?
Starting point is 00:01:47 One guy whose name is Joseph Biden, he's gonna be going up against a guy named Donald J. Trump. Which we got on. That's tonight? That's tonight. It's gonna happen in an hour. It's filled with a ton of people in audience. Really, they got nobody, right?
Starting point is 00:02:03 Zero. One person is gonna be able to click, if you see your light go off, they can't hear you anymore. There's a bunch of rules they created, we'll talk about here in a minute, but there's a matter of fact, why don't we do this Rob? Can you show us the rules on what they're gonna be doing tonight during the debate, which showing the button, you're quiet, do all this stuff, watch this clip here,
Starting point is 00:02:27 tell me how you feel about this, go ahead. When they're on, they signal to the candidate his microphone is on. When the green lights are off, they signal to the candidate his microphone is off. Now I wanna give you a sense of what it will look like for viewers at home if a candidate whose microphone is off interrupts a candidate whose microphone is on. So I'm standing at one podium and I'll ask Phil to come in and take the other podium.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And so let's say I'm answering a question. My light is green and I'm speaking. Phil's microphone is off and his green lights are not illuminated. He's going to interrupt me as I'm speaking and this is what it will sound like. My volume remains constant while Phil's interruption can be difficult to understand. Seems like an airline- Let's try the opposite. My microphone is now on.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Victor's microphone is off and he's going to interrupt me. My volume remains constant while Victor's interruption can be difficult to understand. The Scenics Production team has shared this demonstration with the campaigns earlier today we're sharing it with you our viewers so everyone fully understands how tomorrow night will work now we should know by agreeing to participate in this debate both campaigns and candidates have also agreed to abide by these rules the cnm presidential debate
Starting point is 00:03:39 airs live tomorrow night at nine p m east what do you think about this how do you feel about it without tell me why you think it's lame. Why do you think it's lame? Free speech? So what's what's wrong if they want to turn it off and you don't speak to be able to interrupt each other? Is that a bad thing? Is that a good thing? Actually say it, I'm curious. What do you think? Who actually thinks it can be good the fact that they're muted? Tell me Who actually thinks it can be good, the fact that they're muted? Tell me why you think it can be good. I think that everyone needs a chance to express their opinion, and I think Donald Trump may
Starting point is 00:04:13 be a little too pushy. Too pushy is what you're saying. Okay, what would you say back there? I think it's going to help Trump because he's going to isolate Biden by himself to speak, and he's going to embarrass himself. Okay. So then this is the question. going to isolate Biden by himself to speak, and he's going to embarrass himself. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:29 So then this is a question for you guys to be asking yourselves, is how many of you buy into the idea that this was created with these guidelines by the Biden administration, speaking with CNN, to bring this guideline and this set up to Trump, knowing he was going to say no, to say that Trump's avoiding a debate. Who thinks that could have been the reason? Who actually believes that? Do you actually believe that? Okay. So you guys think this happened because they thought Trump was going to be so pissed, that he was going to say there's no way I'm doing this and they're going to say this guy's bailing, he doesn't want to debate Trump, and then he didn't fall for the, that's kind of what you guys are thinking. What do you think Vinny?
Starting point is 00:05:14 What do you think Adam? Well first of all, I want you guys to know that for this entire week, have you ever heard this before? The President of the United States has not been Presidenting, he's been, at Camp David, practicing for this one thing, to be the president. And I think when it comes down to this, history has shown I want to see,
Starting point is 00:05:30 if especially if it's a one-on-one, I think it shows you can argue, you can combat. Because think about it, presidents are in rooms with leaders and Xi Jinping or Putin. You want some quiet mic, there's no mic shutting off. There's no hey, I talk, hey, you talk some quiet mic, there's no mic shutting off, there's no hey I talk, hey you talk. I want them to go at it because guess what? I wanna hear, I wanna see the gloves come off
Starting point is 00:05:50 because at the end of the day, this is a fight. We've seen four years of Trump, we've seen four years, almost four years of Biden, I wanna hear it, because if they're moderating and they're gonna be shutting off, I don't think it's gonna be a fair fight. I don't, I genuinely, I don't. And who knows what drugs, and people, guys,
Starting point is 00:06:04 and people always say they set the bar low Who knows what they're gonna be pumping in the to bite in cuz guess what if you drug them up you give them Adderall You give them whatever be 12 shot Whatever the hell they're on and he's good for the debate and Adam you I know you're gonna say cuz you want you're like give Them the drug. Yeah. Yeah, which is which is Which is fun, it's what's every give him the Adderall. Which is fun. Every day, not just today. But hear me out, it's fun, and we laugh or whatever, but if that's what you need to just
Starting point is 00:06:31 make it for 90 minutes, you have no business being the president of the United States. Have you ever been to Miami? No, I have been to Miami. Half the people in Miami need that every single day just to survive. But think about it, if he can't do it for 90 minutes, say what you want about Trump, say what you want about Trump, all of us have been seeing. This guy travels the freaking country and stands up there, he just did a thing in Philly, I want to say a week ago, he was up there for 90 minutes just free ball, like spitting, just talking to people and doing his thing, and I think this country, guys, we're not
Starting point is 00:07:01 dumb, we've, like whoever you are, whoever you're voting for, you guys don't feel and see what's been, like you don't see it, like enough of the We've, like whoever you are, whoever you're voting for, you guys don't feel and see what's been, like you don't see it. Like enough of the playing games, he can do it. Oh, he's an old man. Oh, his son, it's a love for his son. No, no, it's a shit show. We have to say it for what it is.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And I would, listen, put Trump 1000%. That's it, I'm going Trump. Well, we know that, Vinny. No, I'm saying even the debate, the debate tonight, who do you think's gonna win? Who do you think's gonna win? It's not who's debate tonight, who do you think is going to win? Who do you think is going to win? It's not who's going to win or who you want to win.
Starting point is 00:07:29 The name of the game tonight is Don't Lose. So if you're Biden, look somewhat alive. Oh shit, he made it. He did it. He spoke. He was there. He did it. Don't literally fall down the stairs. Don't stumble. Don't't just put isn't that said the bar low just the bar is already so low he made it and well no the bar is not low for trump because he's the dude what are you talking about look at all the shit that he's gone through
Starting point is 00:07:54 from 2016 to get to where he's at right now on the stage there all their tactics failed how many felonies and this and collusion all that bullshit we are here now he made it he survived to say that hey at least you know Biden looked alive tonight what the hell I don't want my leader to just be like oh one night he looked good when 364 days he looks like shit yeah obviously the audience agree with that okay I understand that's why there's a lot of people who are politically homeless these days. So this is, people know this, but let me just state the obvious. This is now beginning what is called the kickoff of the general election, right?
Starting point is 00:08:36 So up until literally today, it's been primary season. And how do primaries work? You play to your base. So Trump is rallying up the base, he's going to the rallies, he's doing his thing, he's having parades, he's signing chicks' tits. It does his thing, okay? And God bless him for that. Biden's out there, you know, looking,
Starting point is 00:08:53 you know, doing the robots, standing, standing still, he's break dancing, like, you're playing to your base, he's telling girls, you know, we're gonna support you, abortion rovers wait, but this is the beginning of when you have to pivot and move to the middle and begin what your election, your general election strategy will be. We all know that 40 plus percent of America
Starting point is 00:09:13 is already in Trump's camp. We know that. And we already know that somehow, 40 plus percent of America is in Biden's camp. Do the math. There's actually something called the double haters. This is the election where more people hate their two options than any election in modern history. People are not happy with their
Starting point is 00:09:32 options. This is what we got America. I've been betting everybody left and right that Biden will be there on stage and here he is. People are going to have to pay. But what's the point? At this point, you're going to have to what's called move the movable middle. There's how many people voted in the last election? I think 81 million for Biden, 76 million for Trump. There's a lot of dead people too. A lot of deceased people go to the ballot. This time around, people are not excited for this election.
Starting point is 00:10:03 So what we know is that there's six swing states. You don't have to win millions of people's votes now. Listen, bro, you got to move a hundred thousand different people in six different swing states. Okay. So people in Pennsylvania, people in Michigan, people in Wisconsin, people in Georgia, people in Nevada, you know what's up. By the way, those people, there's going to be hundreds, follow the money, hundreds of millions of dollars of ads playing both sides the greatest hits. January 6th, Trump's a criminal. Those people are going to be inundated with indoctrination if they'd already know it. And then there's also Trump's going to do the same and just show Biden losing to a staircase again or Biden losing to a bicycle.
Starting point is 00:10:43 But let me ask you a question. Okay, so we already know that the gameplay of, the tactic of Joe Biden's gonna be January 6th, insurrection, what's another one? Abortion. No, abortion, but then what? Democracy. Convicted felon. But Joe Biden, what is Joe Biden going to say
Starting point is 00:10:58 that he has achieved? What has this administration accomplished? If it's letting illegals come in from all walks of life to raise up crime, to literally, this is in the news, every single day I see this, every single day, I know you guys do too, under girls, 13, 14, 12, being raped and murdered by illegals and nobody says shit, how many times is Alejandro Mayorkas gonna go to Congress
Starting point is 00:11:23 and they're gonna sit there and be like, you did this, you did this. Zero answers, questions answered and nothing happens. Let's play devil's advocate. Adam, you're Joe Biden's camp. What are you telling him to tout that he's done that's positive? No, no, leave Trump out of that. I don't want to hear anything about Trump, COVID, economy, nothing. What has he done?
Starting point is 00:11:42 Well, there's a phrase in politics that if you have to sell what you've done, you probably haven't done a good job. So it's pure emotion at this point. So people, if you ask the average person out there, what's inflation in America? People are like, bro, inflation is like 25%. It's actually three and a half percent. Did you know that? The stock market, how's it? The stock market is public. Well, the stock market is actually up 25%. So people don't feel that it's actually, the stock market is public. Well, the stock market is actually up 25%. So people don't feel that it's actually going the right way in America. People don't actually feel that things are actually improving in America. But if you look at the data, things are doing okay.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Unemployment is at 4%. Stock market is doing all right. But they also say there's a difference between Wall Street and Main Street. And Main Street just ain't feeling what Joe Biden is doing with Bidenomics. And I see what you're saying. And I get that for, and this is my opinion, that's people that are making the money. The average person, the people that I know, the people that I talk to, they are struggling. When their groceries are four times as much. I know you guys saw this video that was going viral yesterday. This dude filled up a cart at a shopping, like a Publix or something at his house and he
Starting point is 00:12:46 didn't buy it. He went back at him. It's been almost three and a half years and he went to go click. He's like, oh, there's still stuff in that in that cart. It was four times what it was and he obviously didn't buy it. But nothing, dude, nothing is going right here. Now you're walking to kind of what I do for a living, which is follow the money and personal finance following it. I'll tell you one thing. Now you're walking to kind of what I do for a living, which is follow the money and personal finance.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Following it. I'll tell you one thing. That guy, he wasn't just rich and life was great four years ago. No, he wasn't. Now he's broke. No. Two thirds of America lives paycheck to paycheck for the last 50 years. So yeah, he cannot afford groceries today, but I guarantee you it wasn't exactly balling
Starting point is 00:13:19 out at Whole Foods four years ago. So he's complaining where he is today, but he wants to blame the president. He wants to blame, people want to blame Trump, people want to blame Biden. Don't worry about what's going on the White House, worry about what's going on your house. Control the controllable. And that guy right there is complaining about what's going on in America but what did he do with this? So let me ask you a question Adam. You were, and let's just really quick, we're gonna pull back the clock. You voted and I'm not talking crap or judging, I'm just trying to figure like, you know, you were anti-Trump, you voted for Hillary, you voted, and by the way, I'm not talking crap or judging, I'm just trying to figure like, you know, you were anti-Trump, you voted for Hillary, you voted for Biden, but where you are,
Starting point is 00:13:49 Adam, right now, is your life better today than it was when Trump was in before COVID? Bro, my life was great under Obama, my life was great under Trump, my life was great under Biden, and my life will be great regardless of who's the president. And that's what people have to understand. It's called personal development, it understand. It's not it's called personal development. It's called personal finance. It's got personal responsibility. It's called self-esteem. If you think Joe Biden or Donald Trump or Barack Obama or Hillary
Starting point is 00:14:13 Clinton is going to change your life, you're dead wrong. Change your own life. Not that at the same time, I can recognize that if you take the four years of what Biden has done compared with the four years of what Trump has done, it's a no brainer. Yeah, like Biden has failed the American people yes but but I'm not relying on Trump to come in to start having success you got to do it on your own well I mean he was speaking of success PBDs back how you doing so I want to show you guys a video how many guys remember when Zidane
Starting point is 00:14:43 who knows who Zidane is anybody knows the soccer player so who is Zidane, who knows who Zidane is? Anybody knows who Zidane is? The soccer player? So who is Zidane? The headbutt guy. What do you know about Zidane? Who knows? Okay, so what's the famous moment with Zidane? What's the famous moment with Zidane?
Starting point is 00:14:55 When he headbutted the guy's chest? He headbutted a guy that apparently said something about his family. Do you guys know that? Anybody knows? In the World Cup, after they beat Brazil, he headbutts a guy in the championship final and it ends up costing them the World Cup to France. Does anybody know why this guy headbutts the other guy? Do you know it?
Starting point is 00:15:19 So don't say it. You know the story. Does anybody else know the story why he did? Okay, I want you to watch this video, Rob, I send it to you. And you're going to see what I'm going to bring up with this and the debate tonight. Rob, I just texted you the video, if you do have it, if it's ready, watch this. And it is emotional at the end, but there's a lesson in it as well, and I never knew this until about a week ago.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Go ahead and play this clip. So they use the most ridiculous. Back a little bit. Rock go back a little bit. They couldn't stop him. So they use the most ridiculous ploy in football history. How could they stop a man who had destroyed a top Brazilian team before the final? The entire Brazilian team declared we didn't play against
Starting point is 00:16:02 France. We played against Zidane. How could they stop a man who had scored a penalty against the best bouffant with a panenka in the World Cup final? Their coach asked Madarazzi to mark him throughout the match, but he couldn't stop him. He knew there was only one way to stop him. In the 110th minute, Madarazzi grabbed Zidane's jersey with his hand. Zidane said to him,
Starting point is 00:16:25 Do you want my jersey? He was just joking with him, but Madarazzi insulted his sick sister, who was in the hospital at that moment. Zidane couldn't control himself. He headbutted him and was sent off with a red card. Sure, Italy won the match, but with Zidane, they couldn't have won that World Cup. But he chose to be a legend who defended his family's honor. So what do you think?
Starting point is 00:16:52 Wow. Did you know that story? I thought it was something about religion, but who's taking the... You knew that? You knew that story. So his sister's in a hospital and he says, you want my shirt. Apparently the guy says, no, I want your sister. Oh my God. Okay. So how many guys are men here who has a sister? Who's got a sister? Who's
Starting point is 00:17:10 watching this and you got a sister? What do you do if somebody like this says something about your sister? I'm punching him. How many of you guys just right now your temperature. I'm turning red. I'm punching his face. Your temperature goes up you're like oh, oh, where is this guy? I want to find him right now, let alone if he's in a hospital. So my guess is when they asked Biden, coin toss, you want to be on the left side or the right side, he went right side. And then when they said Trump, you get to pick and choose who goes first, who goes last, Trump picks what? Last. Now, do you really think Biden cares whether he's standing on the right side or the left side? He's just happy to be standing. Do you really think anybody cares if he's on the left side or the right side?
Starting point is 00:17:54 Us? No. The public? No. Who cares which side you're like, do you have an edge? Like, you know, sometimes like some women, they're like, no, it's my better side. It's my this side. When you're a guy, you're screwed up. So you're like, whatever side you want, I'll take a picture with you, right? But this is not like Biden's like, I'm 81 years old. My better side is the right side.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I'm convinced they did that. So Trump would pick. They know what Trump's going to pick, not going first. Trump's a counterpuncher, so they're going to pick. Trump's going to go last to do what? To do exactly what they did to Zidane, to get under skin. So then the question becomes a following. I just ran a poll a minute ago, and this is the question I asked. And I'm curious to know what you guys are going to
Starting point is 00:18:34 be saying. The poll I ran, if you can pull up the poll, Rob, so everybody in the audience can see this. I ran a poll saying how many times do you think President Biden is going to use the phrase convicted felon tonight? Not once, three times, four to six times, above six times. What do you guys think? Who here says zero to three times? Like some around one or three times.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Who says four to six times here, okay? Who says six plus times tonight? Okay. So Rob, just click on one of those to see. 76% agree with you on how many times he's going to use it. I think the only strategy that they have tonight, if they want to beat Trump, is to try to find a way to get under his skin. If they do and Trump gets caught up in the emotion and reacts the way that he does, then there's gonna be ways of... See? See what happened? Because historically... I mean, you guys here watch debates of previous years. Who actually watches debates of previous
Starting point is 00:19:41 years? Okay, my son is sitting there, right? And my son and I, we like to watch older debates. And we'll kind of sit there and we'll go through it. In every debate, there is a fumble. Brandon and I, I don't know where Brandon's at, Brandon and I, we're just talking about this right now, about the fumble. Can anybody tell us what was the fumble with Kennedy and Nixon debate? I can tell you.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Go ahead. There was the first presidential debate Kennedy and Nixon debate? I can tell you. Go ahead. There was the first presidential debate that was televised. That's right. The revolution will be televised. And if you were watching on TV, you thought that JFK won because he was good looking and Nixon was sweating a little bit. Right. He had a little stubble, five o'clock shadow.
Starting point is 00:20:20 But if you were listening on radio like half of America was, they actually thought that Nixon won the debate. So that was the biggest thing right there. In other words, you would look very good today if you were debating. But you got a five o'clock shadow, and you're okay with it. I'm a little bit of a Nixon, but I'm a JFK Democrat.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So what was the moment with Bush, Senior, and Dukakis? Oh, Bush, Senior, and Dukakis. There was a couple of them. Oh, that was the commercial, Dukakis? Yeah, no Senior and Dukakis. There was a couple of them. Oh, that was the commercial Dukakis? Yeah, no, not the, he did in the debate, they asked him a question about death penalty and his wife. You remember that moment? What'd he ask him?
Starting point is 00:20:56 This is the President Dukakis, if there's a death penalty and you know, your wife is kind of caught up and she is guilty and she's gonna get the death penalty, he gave the logical cold answer. And women are like, wait a minute, if this guy was my husband, he would kill me. He said he's gonna kill his wife. He would be.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Yeah, because he had to be politically. I gotta kill my wife. I'm sorry guys. I mean, I got to do what's right. Then we had Bush against Clinton. Senior against Clinton. Does anybody know what the fumble was there? Bush senior versus Clinton.
Starting point is 00:21:24 What was the fumble? Do you remember? Yeah, that he allowed Ross Perot on stage? No, the fumble was when he checked, when he did this. He checked his watch? When the lady, the African American lady, asked a question about national debt and he says, you don't think I feel the debt, Rob, is this the one? No, this isn't the one, that's Dukakis.
Starting point is 00:21:38 That's a death penalty, Clint. Oh, can you play this? Oh, by the way, it's three minutes and 21 seconds. Can you find where it's at? Because this answer is so cold it's insane. So anyway, Bush Senior goes like this. Cold blooded. While the lady's asking a question, he goes like this.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And they're like, wait a minute, you don't have time for a voter to kind of tell them your situation, your position? He says, you don't think I feel what the national debt is? You don't think I feel the problem? And then you have Ford versus Carter is when Ford says Soviet Union will never have domination over Eastern Europe and the moderators like President for you sure you're saying that the Soviet Union doesn't have any control over Eastern Europe. What do you what are you talking about? Right? Okay, that's game over
Starting point is 00:22:20 Al Gore against Bush does anybody remember Al Gore against Bush when Al Gore comes and stands over Bush and he's kind of trying to bully him and Bush does this one look he looks at his feet and he goes back to the debate yeah right and then what's the Clinton Trump one what was the highlight of the Clinton Trump this is an easy one what was you'd be in jail the best one and that was it that night it's My dry drop. It's over. By the way, tonight, that moment can't happen. Because tonight, he can't do because you'd be in jail.
Starting point is 00:22:52 None of that stuff works because he's muted. Anyways, we can get a couple of these other guys. My only feedback would be if Trump stays on four years to four years, he's going to do his counterpunch stuff and entertains and is kinda in the playful mode that he's in right now, I think it's gonna be slam dunk tonight if he doesn't let Joe Biden get under his skin tonight. And pal, let me ask you a question,
Starting point is 00:23:14 how much of what happens tonight, cause you know, I don't think it's gonna be that, unless Joe Biden literally falls apart, and I think, I don't know, either they're hoping for it, I mean, we saw Gavin Newsom was in the building, at least. We saw him on X showing up to the building. How much of tonight, and the success of what happens tonight, is actually gonna make voters go, you know what?
Starting point is 00:23:34 I'm still gonna go, regardless of everything that's happening and the country's falling apart, the fact that Joe Biden survived and did well, I'm gonna vote for him. Like, how much you think that's gonna actually change their vote on what's happening with the country? So meaning like even if he shows up and he crushes it, is he still gonna win the vote or not?
Starting point is 00:23:51 Yeah, well yeah, yeah. He's not gonna win your vote. Honestly, there's a, and by the way, Dukakis, let me correct myself. On Dukakis, Dukakis was so anti-death penalty that they said, what if a man rapes your wife? What would you want? He's like, no, I'm anti-death penalty.
Starting point is 00:24:08 That's the position. Oh, got you. He didn't want to kill his wife. Yeah, he was kind of like, you know. He wouldn't want to kill the guy that raped his wife. No, no, no. I get it. It was more that.
Starting point is 00:24:16 So, correction, I wanted to put that out there. But you know, there's a part of people that are saying what tonight is all about is the fact that this is a, like a tryout for Biden to see if he's gonna stay in it or not. Like meaning if he, because you know who all showed up tonight to the debate? Did they show you the video yet or no? Slick, the slick, snake in the grass? Show him the clip Rob, who showed up to the debate tonight. He was like, if you...
Starting point is 00:24:38 Here's who's in the debate tonight. Vinnie showed this to us on the back, Rob, if you got it. This guy was at the debate tonight. Look at this little snake in the background if you got it. This guy was at the debate tonight. Look at this little snake in the grass. Look at him. Look at him. Like the snake that he is. Look at him. That's the future guy. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Vinny. So he's there tonight. So what is he doing there tonight? Tonight was a draft pick. By the way, Bronny James is going to the Lakers. Yeah. LeBron James. Second round. And Bronny will be playing together. Total coincidence. Not planned. Who would haveakers. Yeah. LeBron James second round. We'll be playing total coincidence. Not LeBron had no
Starting point is 00:25:08 say in this matter. So she didn't even know they were drafting. That's right. He wasn't even watching. Yeah. So then the question becomes maybe the backup center showed up tonight. No one if he doesn't make it the next first round draft pick is there ready to to go, light it up. Opening statement. I feel President Biden's been one of the greatest presidents we've ever had to overcome the challenges that we had the last few years after COVID with the travesty the previous president did. And I've been loyal to him. He's been such a great loyal man. And he called me
Starting point is 00:25:41 and he asked me if I would be willing to this. I said, anything for you, Mr. President. And I've never even thought about becoming a president. And I love being the governor of the state of California, but if you ask me to have kind of a responsibility, even though my wife and I, we talked about it, we really didn't want to do this because we got a great life in California, but anything for the country of you, Mr. Biden.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And yes, I will gladly be the nominee for the Democrat. Can you visualize that script actually happening, right? So I was actually getting mad at you because I pictured him. I'm like, I hate him. And you know what he's going to say? I guarantee he's going to say, I don't want to run for president. I have to.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Yeah. And then his tongue's going to come out like a snake and go back in his mouth. But here's the question, though. Here's the question. Let me give you my weird side. I am hoping Biden does good tonight. Why?
Starting point is 00:26:27 Because if he does good tonight, I would much rather go get... You want the face off to be against Biden. That's what you want history to be. I hope Biden does good tonight. I hope... I don't know. People are speculating he's going to be on DECA, DBAL, TRT, HRT, Glenn Buterall, on Adderall, on whatever he's going...
Starting point is 00:26:44 Whether he is or not, we're not. H.R.T. Glenn Buterall and Adderall and whatever he's going to be. Whether he is or not, we're not. This is no drug testing and this is the NFL or all these other sports. But I hope he has maybe a nice cup of coffee and whatever else he does in it and I hope it's a good show. I mean, Pat, they found cocaine in the White House. What makes you think that's his or his son? Why would you assume automatically maybe someone left it there?
Starting point is 00:27:08 You actually make, you know what? You're right, cause none of the cameras were on. How naive could you be? Yeah, you're right. Why would you be so spec, you're like naive and just jump into conclusion? I sit here corrected. You're missing the ball here, man.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah, seriously. 100 Biden doesn't do cocaine. Guys, forgive me for Vinny taking that position right there. It's so offensive sometimes. I'm sorry, I just- I don't know why you do that. You missed the ball on that position right there it's so offensive sometimes I'm sorry I just why you do that hold it together hunter Biden would never do cocaine he's a crack guy you're doing it's not his thing bro point of a little respect devil point but somebody sent me somebody sent me all the images I don't I didn't want it they just I'm
Starting point is 00:27:39 just a vessel they just sent me stuff I saw the contents of the Hunter Biden laptop and Adam, you're wrong. There was cocaine everywhere. It was bad. He was cooking. No, it was turn into. Yeah, I think, um, you know, if you watch a beauty podcast, you know that I've been vocal that I do not think that there's going to be a great switch. I don't think that there's two Joe Biden'sens. I think that they are riding with Biden.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Whether they lose or win, they're going with this guy. And if you go down the rabbit hole and if you think that this is one big bait and switch, I can see why that would be. And it's actually a... makes him an even weaker candidate, the fact that there's still this ongoing conversation of what this switch will be. But if you ask anybody on the inside, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:22 the calls coming from inside the house, everybody in the White House is like, the calls coming from inside the house, everybody in the White House is like, no, that's our guy. Like, stop talking about this. This is our guy. So I do agree that there's going to be a great test today. And it's not just so easy. Like, hey, Biden, you're out.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Can we get the right-handed pitcher Gavin Newsom? You're in here, there's something called delegates or something called superdelegates. They actually got to go through the states. It's not as easy as just, like, bringing the backup pitcher. It doesn't... It'd be easier for the Democrats to do that. You gotta go through the states. It's not as easy as just bringing the backup picture. It'd be easier for the Democrats to do that. I also agree with you that Trump,
Starting point is 00:28:52 based on approval ratings, net approval ratings, has actually surpassed Biden at this point. Not a good look for Biden. There are people are saying, people are saying, that these are the only two candidates that each other could beat. Meaning if Joe Biden ran against DeSantis or Vivek, the age and the energy would be so palpable to see.
Starting point is 00:29:14 They're like, oh my God, we can't vote for the old guy. All right, let's keep Trump in there. Like there's Democrat strategists who have basically said, no, no, we want Trump. And there's clearly Republican strategists that are like, nah, we don't want Gavin. We don't want Michelle Obama. We want the old decrepit guy.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So that's why they call it the double-hater election, that these are the only guys each other's can actually beat. This is what we got. How hard would it be, let's just say, how hard, we see what he does tonight. Let's say he falls apart, and the Democrats are just like,
Starting point is 00:29:39 he's not the guy. How hard would it be to release something from the laptop or something and be like, yo, he actually has done illegal stuff. And they, they put a charge on Biden, they impeached him and they're like, yo, we're moving on. It's not that hard. You make it as if the bait and switch is like, Oh, look over here. Look at Gavin. Gavin Newsom is at the bait. Vincenzo, it's not hard to do what? The bait and switch. It's not hard to say, oh, by the way, it's the Hunter Biden laptop, which now they have said for a fact, is real. It's not hard to say, oh, by the way, the Hunter Biden laptop, which now they have said, for a fact, is real.
Starting point is 00:30:06 It's taken them seven, eight years. Why do you gotta bring Israel into this, bro? Did I say Israel? But what I'm saying is how hard is it? Oh, you said it's real? It's real. How hard is it for them now to be like- My juice sense is just what?
Starting point is 00:30:17 Adam, in a month, in a month, whatever that happens on this debate, in a month, they go, oh my God, look what we found on the laptop. He did all this stuff with- It's fun to speculate, but I try to be a pragmatist and actually face reality in the face. Well what do you mean? Oh boy he's debating tonight we're about to see in an hour how he does. Less than an hour.
Starting point is 00:30:33 And by the way it could be as simple as him being in the audience just like Trump said the VP nominee will be in the audience today. So Trump's got about 82 people in the audience to throw everybody off. Can you imagine? It's one of the 82, you know? And it's like, which one is this gonna be in regards to being the VP?
Starting point is 00:30:53 Do you have any kind of thoughts on who the VP is? Obviously I know. I know it's gonna be a guy. You think so? So Stefanik is out, Tulsi is out. But mind you though, I wanted, I don't want Stefanik, I wanted Tulsi Gabbard. If I had to guess, and it's a very strong guess, I would guess, and I know Adam's guy
Starting point is 00:31:12 is the Burnham, Doug? Say his name right, buddy. Doug Burgum. I'm going to say Vivek Ramaswamy is going to be his VP pick. Take it to the bank. What do you think? Look at those odds real quick. Tim Scott is at the top. Doug Burgum is second.
Starting point is 00:31:30 This is Vegas. JD Vance is third. Rubio, then Carson, then Huckabee, then Tulsi, then Elise. Stefanik Vivek is 25 to one. I'm taking that bet. Yeah. I'm taking that bet. I'm taking it, PP.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Why am I going to go with... I'll tell you why it doesn't matter. I don't think it matters who Trump VP is, because Trump, more than anybody, does not get into the identity politics game. Trump could be like, you, Chick, hot chick, you're my new running mate. Like, hey, buddy, what's your name?
Starting point is 00:31:55 It's Trump, it's Trump, it's Trump. Whoever he selects, whether it's Sleepy Ben Carson, or Excitable Vivek, or my guy Doug Bergen, who got his ankle broke to playing basketball in the presidential elections and was out there with one leg up like he's in doing a dance in Miami. He doesn't care. He'll run with Pence, he'll run with any single person
Starting point is 00:32:14 on this thing with the exception of Nikki Haley. I don't think he's picking her. So I do think it's gonna be this guy Burgum. I don't think he cares if it's a man or a woman. I think he wants someone who's loyal and down for the cause and is gonna be a flag carrier for the Trump 2024 campaign. On the flip side, we know that Biden plays identity politics. He basically said, I don't even want the best man for the job.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I don't want the best woman for the job. I am picking a African-American female who checks the DEI woke checklist, and commonly, if you talk shit about me on stage, you're my gal. So it's just totally different. Trump doesn't really play identity politics.. So it's just totally different. Trump doesn't really play identity politics.
Starting point is 00:32:47 However, it's ironic that he's labeled the racist. He's labeled the sexist. It's kind of interesting to see what the media has done to disparage Trump, even though he's not the one doing what they say he is doing. As a diehard Donald Trump supporter, how does that make you feel? Diehard.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I mean, look. You know, Pat, I've been red-pilled. does that make you feel? Diehard. I mean, look. You know, Pat, I've been red-pilled. What do you want from me, buddy? I mean, come on now. Come on. Yeah! Not that kind of red-pilled, guys. But can I show you something?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah. This might be a good time. Here we go. You know that there's no props. Get married. Yes. Get married, guys. Sir, would you come?
Starting point is 00:33:24 You know there's no props in the debate tonight. Is his future wife in the room? No. He's getting married. He's getting married, guys. Sir, sir, would you come? How did he get married? There's no props in the debate tonight. Is his future wife in the room? No. Let me see. Is there somebody here who's finally going to meet this girl? No. No.
Starting point is 00:33:32 This is actually, it's a pretty big deal. I brought you something, people. They said there's no props. Vinny, you don't know how to read, do you? No. OK. So I'm going to have to have a look. Are there pictures in it?
Starting point is 00:33:43 This is something. This is my voter identification card. I want you to see this, because I think it's a testament to where we're at in America today. You want to read it? You want to read it? You all give it the pat. What's my party affiliation?
Starting point is 00:33:56 I know what it is. No, but it's different between seeing and believing. And what year did I register for that? National Socialist Party of America. Yep, there it is. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. We knew it. You caught me.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Oh, three. Socialist, is that what you want me to say? Yes. If you want to zoom in, you want me to come zoom in to see the Socialist Party? Let's see it. But it's got your social on there. I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:34:20 But anyway, so what do you want them to... Just read it. From the fact you're part of the Socialist Party. What do you want me to do with that? You're funny. You're funny. Who actually believes fact you're part of the Socialist Party? What do you want me to do with that? You're funny. You're funny. Who actually believes this guy was a part of Socialist Party? He's a good actor.
Starting point is 00:34:30 See, even they're believing it. Now listen, correction. There's one guy with good teeth that smiled. Independent Party. And a guy who doesn't know what's left from his right over there. Independent Party of Florida as of 03. Yes. So, I think it's, by the way.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Rob, can you get a dozen, maybe like a couple of cookies from the back. Yes. That's OK with you. Maybe this guy is looking for a good. Now, here's a question, though. How many times? How many times have you voted for an independent president or Republican president? What do you mean an independent president? Exactly what I said. You're part of the independent party.
Starting point is 00:35:02 You're part of the independent party. PBD, I see what you're doing. And you're walking right Independent Party. You're part of the Independent Party. PBD, I see what you're doing. And you're walking right into my trap. You walked right into it. Do it. You did it. Go ahead and do it. Because you're saying how many times have you actually
Starting point is 00:35:13 voted for a Republican. Yes, President. You know the answer. How many times? The answer is zero. Okay. But things have changed. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:23 You know, the most powerful things in the world you could say. You gotta be careful who you're hanging out with because they can have influence over you. Be careful. It's true. By the way, I keep my voter registration card, Independent Party of Florida, in my Declaration of Independence, Vinny.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Here we go. Read this. Give it to Trump. United States Constitution. Yeah, that's right. The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, there it is right there. But I think it's a sign of the times, PVD, that there's a lot of people who have seen what's happened to the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Like, RFK, I would love to see this guy on stage tonight. Would love to see, how many of you guys would want to see RFK on stage tonight to talk to both candidates? No, all right, all right. Somebody's forgot how to clap out there, I get it. But I think there's a lot of people in America who were JFK Democrats or even Clinton Democrats who are like, what the...
Starting point is 00:36:07 is this party all about these days? Like, you're more concerned about abortion, chicks with dicks, and DEI than the economy and immigration and actually getting our country together. And I think that's the problem with the Democratic Party. Kids here, and you're talking about earmuffs. I didn't realize we were having kids here.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Earmuffs, sorry, earmuffs. Seriously, are you just as offended as I am? I'm so mad at him. Tico. Tico, did you hear the bad words? Earmuffs. Tico's one of the smartest kids I know. I'm super proud of your son Tico. But I think there's a lot of people like me who were not exactly excited about Biden in 2020,
Starting point is 00:36:44 but they're like, ah, there's so many people who are just over Trump. But I think what we've realized if you can remove emotion from it and actually act like a stoic and be like, yeah, Trump talks so much shit and he's annoying. I love it. But the policies is kind of where you got to focus. Well, and if you look at Biden's policies, there's three wars going all around the world, potentially something else going on, whether you want to talk inflation, we're going to talk economy, the border is an absolute mess, but they're worried about democracy. And I think there's a lot of people that are like, yeah, don't believe your lying eyes. We're not. There's a lot of people who are whether they're independents or Democrats. If you want to just say it, if you want the
Starting point is 00:37:19 press secretary job, just look at the camera and say President Trump, I think I would be one hell of a press secretary for you. My name is Adam Sosnick. Which camera? Which camera I got? Pick out any one of them. Donald Trump, if you're never able to make it to the stage that one day, I'm here for you, buddy. I think there's a lot of people that are waking up to this. So, Adam, if the vote happened today, Biden or Trump, who are you voting for? I'm being dead serious.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I would vote for Trump. Yes, Adam! And you know what? And you might tell them... What is the vote? I'm not voting for Trump. who you voting for? I'm being dead serious. I would vote for Trump. Yes, Adam! And you know what? What is this, a fraternity hazing party? Like, okay, you got me guys. It's cool. I get it. And to all the Democrats, to all the leftists. We're doing the elephant walk in the back of the club, guys.
Starting point is 00:37:58 To all the liberals out there, that they're crying and they're screaming and they're so mad, PBD, that Trump, he can come, he gonna win again and he's he's Hiller if they didn't cheat and they didn't mess with them and they didn't do all the shit that he did that they did he'd be leaving in November you would have been done you never would have heard from Trump again but now it's it's payback time because now it's now everybody's watching and thank God for Elon Musk if it wasn't for Elon Musk you wouldn't be able to see videos of like a Gavin Newsom show him up or videos of them if they're going to do any cheating or anything.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Because now we have that platform and now we could see it. Here's a clip of what Newsom had to say when he was asked about why he's there. Go ahead, Rob. Look at that hair. Perfect. He's got great hair. ...understand the context of that. This is the President of the United States
Starting point is 00:38:41 running for reelection. He's our guy. And that's part of the diversion tactic, the right to continue to sort of muddy the waters on all that nonsensical speculation. It's just like the absurdity of who's gonna get an injection shot. I mean, this is farcical. It's serious stuff. Democracy, freedom, liberty, rights, and to see it trivialized as we're trivializing it, even having these
Starting point is 00:39:06 conversations is really distressing to me as an American citizen, not just as a Democrat. How good of a poker player do you think he is? It's so good. How good of a poker player, like, to be able to look at you as good as he does and it's like, this is serious stuff with him. How do you not realize this is serious stuff? You're asking me silly questions like that? How would you ask me a question like that?
Starting point is 00:39:31 But yeah, I mean, listen, who knows? Everything is about speculation. Tonight we're gonna find out if, I guess one of the main questions is, do you remember Megan Kelly opening question? Okay, Rob, can you pull this up? This was like a mic drop moment, okay,
Starting point is 00:39:52 where he kinda goes like this. And you know, when he's doing this, you know everybody's got a tail? He's loading up the guns. When somebody's like, your hand goes like this, they're about to snap. When he goes like this, I mean, it's coming, right? Watch his shoulders tonight when he goes like this. He wants to say something, right?
Starting point is 00:40:05 That's Trump's tail, right? But the question was asked, Rob, can you? You've called women dogs, pigs, this, that, the other. And then he's like, only Rosie O'Donnell. Rob, do you have it or you can't find it? I'm looking right now. Okay. It should be somewhere around there.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I think this is it, Rob. Is this it? I think so. Okay, go ahead and play around there. I think this is it Rob. This is it? I think so. Okay, go ahead and play this clip. I mean, this is obviously greatest hits. Go ahead One of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don't use a politician's filter However, that is not without its downsides in particular when it comes to women You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. Your Twitter account is several... Only Rosie O'Donnell.
Starting point is 00:40:54 No, it wasn't. He just won the election right there. Yeah, so again, but guess what? Today, that can't happen. Which I don't like. I want that. By the way, and here's the part though. Here's the part.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Okay, I want you to think about, you know, they know they're professionals. They know most people are not going to watch the entire debate. They're not. Most people are going to watch the first 15, 30're not. Most people are gonna watch the first 15, 30 minutes, like a video you make, the first 10 minutes, 15 minutes they'll watch, or even a shorter video, the first eight seconds they'll watch, and then they're gone, right?
Starting point is 00:41:35 So if you really wanna embarrass the guy, what question do you ask Trump? As the moderator is the first question? I want you to, I already got it. I want you to put a, be the devil, I know it's gonna be hard for you to do, but be the devil's advocate and think about the ugliest question to ask Trump
Starting point is 00:41:53 as the first question to get under his skin. Your name is Jake Tapper or Dana. What question do you start off with? You wanna go first? No, go ahead. I'm thinking, no. I think Adam's got this, let's see what he's gonna say. Yeah, President Trump, we're so grateful that you were able to make it here today. We know that there was a good chance Do you want to go first? No, go ahead. I'm thinking, no. I think Adam's got this. Let's see what he's going to say.
Starting point is 00:42:05 President Trump, we're so grateful that you were able to make it here today. We know that there was a good chance that you could be in jail right now. We all know that you've been convicted of 34 felonies in the state of New York. So how does it feel to be here on stage in this wonderful auditorium with no crowd, able to debate for the presidency? By the way, what happened on January 6th? We'll come back to that later. Anyway, explain yourself.
Starting point is 00:42:26 There just might go right there immediately. What do you think? I don't know about that. Vinny, what do you think? I mean, if the moderator wants to crap on him 100%... Not crap on him. Immediately, you want to get under his skin right off the bat as a question because you know it's going to
Starting point is 00:42:45 be only the first 15 minutes so you got to get him in the first 15 minutes. What do you ask? So President Trump going back some some say that you were you know colluding with Russian you're a Russian asset the January up to the January 6th insurrection a book came out where it was known fact that you cheated on your wife this is in the book you cheated on your wife. This is in the book. You cheated on your wife. Again, you did hush money with Stormy Daniels. Okay? I'd list all those things and I'd say, if you do win, what's to say that you're not going to do that again when you win the presidency? Because if you want to get under his skin, you bring up all the dirt about his personal life and then you just give it to him.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I actually think he would overcome each of those one by one by one and I think he would welcome that. I actually think he would welcome that question. I think you have to be more creative than that to hit him somewhere that's gonna really piss him off. You have one in mind? No, I... You're onto something. No, no, I'm nowhere.
Starting point is 00:43:42 I'm just kind of like, we're being creative right now. This is how our meetings go, by the way. Don't sell yourself short, because I'll tell you why you are right. In news, in journalism, in broadcasting, there's something called don't bury the lead. So they're not gonna bury the lead if they're asking Trump the first question.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Adam went to Columbia School of Study Journalism. Just so you guys know. I was at Columbia. That's a joke, I'm kidding with you. One guy bought it, he believes you. Florida State, Florida State, okay? Football, nearby football. They're not gonna, if they're gonna,
Starting point is 00:44:10 the first question, Trump, they're not gonna bury the lead. They're gonna ask a very poignant, direct question because they know that that is gonna be the most watched part of the debate. So you are onto something, I just don't know what that question's gonna be. Yeah, but I do think strategically, if you're thinking about your enemy, what your enemy's gonna
Starting point is 00:44:27 try to do, how many hours you think they sat in the room, Tapper, Dana, with their crew saying, and all the liberal students that just got out of Columbia, that just got out of all these schools, that hates Trump at the highest level, right? Can't stand this guy. Come up with the top five question. I'll give you a thousand dollar bonus, whoever comes up with the best question, to ask as the opening question to get a piss them off right off the bat. What would that question be? If we use your question, it's a thousand dollar bonus. We give you whatever the number
Starting point is 00:45:00 they give them, right? You come up with that question. And then in that room, they sit there and say, I actually really like that question. What's your name? Mary. How long you been with us? I'm an intern. Who do you work with? Okay, write that question down.
Starting point is 00:45:11 What do you have? What do you have? What do you have? I think you got to start off right off the bat rattling him. And then from there, you know, you see where he takes it. You got to find, and I'm sure they're dark enough and deceptive enough, have enough access to resources to know what question to pose.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Question becomes is it gonna work or not. See, the one thing I see about how Trump is lately, you guys ever seen somebody when you get out of phase and when anything that happens, they're always pissed. Have you ever been in that phase before? I know I have been. Have you ever been in a phase where almost it takes this much to piss you off? Have you ever been there before?
Starting point is 00:45:55 Oh, we got a bunch of saints here. Guys, can you please pray for me afterwards? I mean, I'd love to be a saint like you. But have you also ever been at a phase of your life where nothing can get under your skin, where you're just like, okay, high as a kite. That's where I'm at right now. Are you really?
Starting point is 00:46:13 High as a kite. Oh, you're saying under your skin? Because you were smoking weed and the garlic. You can't get under the skin. But, and then a cop pulls you over and he's like, do you know why I pulled you over? Yes, officer. Why'd I pull you over?
Starting point is 00:46:26 I was going 120. It's a 65. I was going fast. I deserve a ticket. Excuse me? You should give me a ticket. Go ahead. You need my license and registration?
Starting point is 00:46:37 Is everything okay? I just had a daughter, bro. I don't give a shit. Give me a ticket. I'm so happy right now. And the cops are like, oh, you know those moments that we have, right? Trump is flowing right now.
Starting point is 00:46:49 So that's the thing. So what I mean is, I don't think anything's gonna work. Because he, to me, he has the mojo that he had in 2015, 2016, he did not have in 2020. In 2020, I think he lost the mojo. He was angry and it didn't work well. It didn't work well. I think right now he's dancing. He's having fun. He's enjoying this. So I actually don't think there's anything they can ask that's going to get under his skin. If I was an intern in there, I would say, I'm so sorry. I didn't go to Columbia. I went to
Starting point is 00:47:22 Glendale Community College and maybe my opinion has no credence here. I actually think you guys wanna make sure the first 15 minutes is as boring as possible so people switch, because if it's not boring and they watch the whole thing and Trump kills it, you guys are dummies and you will lose. So ask the stupidest questions the first 15 minutes so you lose the audience and they walk away.
Starting point is 00:47:45 That's what I would do if I were you. And so that's the part, because I think he's dancing right now. He's having way too much fun right now. I actually agree with you and I'll tell you why. Trump relishes- We got 10 minutes, we got 10 minutes till the debate. I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Trump relishes being the underdog. So in 2016, he was the underdog. I mean, nobody thought Trump was even gonna be the candidate. Not one poll head up ahead. I mean, he came up there in 2015 and 2016 when he was campaigning and in the Republican primaries and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, low energy Jeb, you're done, okay?
Starting point is 00:48:18 Little Marco, boom, you're done. Left and right, they're out of there. 2020, he was the president. It's kind of hard to be the underdog when you're the incumbent president. And he also had COVID, so kind of, you know, something to deal with at that time. Right now, even though he's kind of favored
Starting point is 00:48:33 in the polls right now, he can still play the underdog. They're trying to lock me up, they're trying to go after my freedom, they're trying to take your freedom away. I'm your fighter. I can do this, I'm representing you. So he can kind of play that card And I think he does well being that guy other than being the incumbent president, so I think you're absolutely right on that
Starting point is 00:48:53 Vinny Vinny, please be skeptical and disagree because this is getting boring Okay, I like a good fight. I well I call it out say you guys are wrong. I disagree Listen, they're gonna come after enjoy being the guy that disagrees once in a while There go Vinny enjoy this rumble down. Yes according to I just saw Steven Crowder tweeted that he's leaving rumble to go on you Now the record down to YouTube because rumble is down correct down detector comm has them down And if you take a look at the screen right here as I refresh it's not loading Wow so either they had so much traffic coming in or Somebody wants to enter skepticism
Starting point is 00:49:34 Agree who disagrees with what I said you're like, no, I don't think that's what it is. Okay you think that that what that That, that what? That... You think so? Who's that? You're talking about Rumble. Oh, you think Soros is behind Rumble being down? You fully believe that?
Starting point is 00:49:53 Can Rumble... You're not a fan of Jorge. You don't think he's a sweet, noble, gentle man? You think they're going to take Biden off the field tonight? Yeah. Okay, so let me ask you this. Go back to what I said. That they're actually maybe even the first 15 minutes, by the way, this is one of the ways to get under his skin.
Starting point is 00:50:25 You ready? Thank you so much for being on the stage, President Biden. And Mr. Trump, thank you so much for being on the stage. Did you catch that too? Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump. That's right. That's the one way to do it.
Starting point is 00:50:37 A little disrespect sprinkled in. President Biden, great to have you here. Mr. Trump, it's great to have you here. If they do that, that's actually such a dirty way of taking it that can actually backfire. It's actually, I don't know if it's a good idea. Yeah, because it shows how. By the way, if they do it, it's a bad look on CNN. 1000%.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Now again, you can never be surprised. You always got to be kind of like ready on what the enemy could do. Can I flip it on you? You can flip it all you want. I think CNN, just how, you know, what I've learned from PBD after every single debate, you give scores for everybody, not just Trump, not just Biden. You give scores for the commentators, you give scores to the hosts, you give scores to the networks, you give score to the VPs, CNN has a unique chance tonight to turn the
Starting point is 00:51:21 tide of people being like, yeah, they're just clearly leftist stooges in the Democratic Party's camp. Meaning, meaning, if they actually do a good job, if Jake Tapper and Dana Bash are actually legit down the middle and are even to both sides, that would help credibility a little bit. If they really wanted to do that, they would have allowed the press secretary,
Starting point is 00:51:43 the spokesperson for Trump the other day, when she said Jake Tapper compared Trump to Hitler and they cut her off, that would have been a good start. Yeah, but that's not, that's, who was that? Casey Hunter, Alison Camarado, whoever was doing that. You're representing the brand. No, no, no. But that's not on the world stage, PBD. Now we're going to disagree.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Now we're going to disagree. That's the brand. That's the brand. You're representing the brand and you're saying that. But that's different from during the presidential debate versus a random air you want to choose today. So let me ask you a different question. Let me ask you a different question.
Starting point is 00:52:12 America, what American voters want. Rob, was there one of the slides of what the topics was? I think one of the stories that we had on what the stories people wanted to talk about. Okay, so there was one thing about it. Okay, so immigration. Immigration. Is that question, will that be asked in the first 15 minutes? Probably not because it's gonna hurt my... It shouldn't be if you're CNN. When should you ask immigration question? At the end. In the last 30 minutes. If you're so... Again, think about all these things. What will they ask in the first 30 minutes. If you're so, again, think about all these things.
Starting point is 00:52:45 What will they ask in the first 15 minutes? Abortion. Okay. Roe versus Wade. Okay, so now you're talking about energy. Now we're flowing. What are the chances of the first 15 minutes gonna be Roe versus Wade, abortion?
Starting point is 00:52:59 First 15 minutes. First 30 minutes. If they have an agenda, very high. Okay, so we're gonna see this here collectively together. Okay, what are the topic you think, we got five minutes, what are the topic you think will be brought up in the first 15, 30 minutes? January 6th, insurrection 1000%.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Okay, so let's go through it. 100,000%. Abortion, what else? Convicted felon. Convicted felon. Convicted felon. APAC? Payback. COVID, COVID handling.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Payback. We found a guy with a more conspiratorial nature than you, buddy. So now let's do this. What do you think will be talked about the last 30 minutes? We said immigration last 30 minutes. Immigration, the economy. What was that? Climate.
Starting point is 00:53:42 You think climate change is last 30 minutes? Or earlier? I think climate change could be in the first 30 minutes. You have called climate change a hoax. Mr. Trump. Boom. In the beginning, yeah. 728 scientists have said, right?
Starting point is 00:54:00 So okay, so climate change, what else do you think will be the last 30 minutes? Like this is when people are going to sleep, they're done. What about LGBTQ? I think you got to bring that. Yeah, I think you got to bring anything that's a bad look on Trump, you got to bring in the first 30 minutes. That's what they're going to do. So that's what you have to watch out for because, you that's that's the that's the strategic
Starting point is 00:54:25 move it's called strategic strategic but you but you didn't you didn't you made a great point pack and I know we're wrapping up you made a great point he's loose he's dancing because now he has ammunition now he's had now he's gonna say you guys have seen four years you saw my four years what do you want I'm gonna choose you choose what you want any predictions any predictions you want to make Joe Biden walks over and punches him and loses The mind and they kick him off. No, that's that's not a prediction. That's that's an ideal situation for a comedian That's what you would want
Starting point is 00:54:54 Joe Biden just comes in I think the least crazy candidate Should win will win like present yourself as the least crazy. I think the candidate should win, will win. Like, present yourself as the least crazy. I think Trump is gonna have a lot of ammunition to call out Biden's record. Listen, you know, you might say, I mean tweets. How you like those orange, you miss those orange tweets now kind of a thing.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Look at what's going on in the world. He's a lot of ammunition. I think Biden has very little ammunition. I think he's gonna go to the criminal thing. I think he's gonna go to the January 6th thing. And I think he's gonna use this one term that I've been researching. By the way, I told you I brought props. Here's another thing.
Starting point is 00:55:30 A practical guide to defeating MAGA. Did you write that? No, I didn't write it. I co-authored it. You co-authored it. This is actually online right now. And do you know the only term in terms of the Republican Party that has a lower approval rating to Democrats than Donald Trump, MAGA.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Donald Trump's approval rating within Democrats is in the 20s or 30s, but MAGA is actually lower than that. So look out for this. How many times they say MAGA extremists, right-wing MAGA extremists, just so you know that, guys. Trump has a higher approval rating than MAGA extremists, right wing MAGA extremists. Just so you know that guys, Trump has a higher approval rating than MAGA. Just keep that in mind.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah, and wait, threat to democracy, you're gonna hear at least 10 times for sure. What other predictions you got? What other predictions you got? What else do you think is gonna happen? I predict that Joe Biden is actually going to be there, finish the debate, be the nominee, and most likely lose to Donald Trump in the general election.
Starting point is 00:56:30 But he will be the candidate. That is my prediction. I think Donald Trump mops the floor with him in this. Even though they have the buttons and all that, you can't compare, again, you cannot compare four years ago to right now. The people aren't stupid. And that middle that he's talking about, those middle people are gonna see right through the BS,
Starting point is 00:56:47 1,000%. What do you think, Vividine? Predictions? I think you have to, the editors that are on Trump's team are creative editors, where they can make good clips and get it out there as soon as possible and he's gonna have moments and and Trump Trump doesn't need somebody to write like here's seven lines to use as come back. Yeah, Trump's not rapper
Starting point is 00:57:17 You know, he's a rapper. He's a rapper. Trump could have been a rapper Yeah, Trump was a you know, a poor father away from being a rapper. Okay? Uh, uh. Uh. What are you? Yo, what? He would have been the first M&M.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Before there was M&M there was- You gotta find the Drake hotline bling Trump video problem. Yeah, so I don't think Trump's lacking. Like, you know, to me, when you're so confident in your ability to be witty and debate, like you're feening this moment. I feel like he's been waiting. Like, you know how it's like you're eight years old
Starting point is 00:57:54 and it's Christmas and you can't say, I don't wanna wake up, it's a gift time. I wanna wait for this. I feel like he's like, dude, let's go. I wanna do this already. I feel like he's there right now. I'm telling you, when you're in flow, he's in flow. It's very interesting because when it was against Biden, he wasn't in flow.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I'm gonna give you one quick stat. Unfair, this is unfair, this is unfair. This is like, no, no, now you got what you wanted. You saw four of mine, you got four of his, how you like me now? That's really what it is. Again, he's a rapper. So Rob, if we're ready, and by the way,
Starting point is 00:58:22 with your permission, CNN, we're gonna watch you, but you can do whatever you're doing. We're gonna watch with our crowd here and we'll be reacting to the debate. Rob, if it's up, you wanna put it up, and the audience out there while you're watching this, I think it's 90 minutes. There will be two... Five minute breaks? Five minute breaks and then at the end
Starting point is 00:58:47 we'll come back and we'll react to it the last 30 minutes to an hour and then we'll bid you a good evening. Now we're hoping there's some fireworks tonight when this thing gets started but we'll see. By the way, wasn't there an event where Biden was late 15, 20 minutes? The State of the Union. He was late. He was late 45 minutes because of traffic. The protesters and he was dapping up everybody in between. Can I give you one little piece of data real quick? By the way, Tom, if you're watching, shout out to the biz.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Kelly, we'll keep going until this thing, they're on the stage. We'll go. So Adam, keep going. By the way, Tom is somewhere in the way, Tommy's somewhere in the world. He's somewhere in the world. Tommy, can everybody say Tommy, we love you? We love you, Thomas! And by the way, Tommy, we truly love you, and he knows it.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Go ahead, Adam. Well, Tom, this one's for you, Tom, because everybody knows that- Princess, yes, go ahead. Words talk. I have to say it on behalf of Tom, for sure. I know it upsets you a lot. It rolls off my back.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I know it upsets you. It's thick skin at this point, Pat. Shout out to Tom, wherever he is in the world right now with his family, but he always says, words talk, numbers scream, right Brandon? I got it right this time. You talk about Trump flowing, doing his thing. Here's some numbers for you. Stats for Tom out there.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Joe Biden, this is going to mark his 30th national debate. 30th. I'm talking he ran for president in the 80s, 90s, 2000s. This is his 30th. It's more than anybody. But by the way, Donald Trump, this is his 15th Gangster presidential debate. So they both have more than anybody in particular categories right now So these are guys are not lightweights inexperienced. There's 50 years of government and 50 years of business. Let's see what we got lighting go go Is that the moderator's desire? When it's time for a candidate to speak, his microphone will be turned on, and his opponent's microphone will be turned off.
Starting point is 01:00:50 If the candidate interrupts when his microphone is muted, he will be difficult to understand for viewers at home. At the end of the debate, each candidate will get two minutes for closing statements. There is no studio audience tonight. Pre-written notes, talks, or contacts with campaign staff are not permitted during the debate. By accepting our invitation to debate, both candidates and their campaign agreed to accept the rule. Now please welcome the 46th President of the United States, Joe Biden. his hands. Boo. Joe. Hey, hey, hey. It's a bunch of. Oh my God. It looks very pale. They didn't give him that much drugs. Very pale. Uh oh. Look at the man. Look at that tie. Boss. Yeah, don't even look at them. Don't even look at them.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Economy. Here it is. Inflation has slowed, but prices remain high. Since you took office, the price of essentials has increased. For example, a basket of groceries that cost $100 then now cost more than $100. Good for them to start with this. And typical home prices have jumped more than 30%. What do you say to voters who feel they are worth off under your presidency?
Starting point is 01:02:20 Oh, God. Uh-oh. Oh, God. Mr. Trump, are you kidding? Oh, my God. That is does not look good. His voice. Did he cough within the first seven seconds? He's not drugged.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Look at his chin. I'm going to turn this volume up a little bit. Look at his hands. Wow. They didn't drug him. No drug. Can you guys understand what he's saying? It's over. Look. He's coming.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Oh, my God. Oh no they didn't give him drugs. Done done. We have never done it so well. I think everybody was amazed by it. All the countries were proud of us. We got hit with COVID. And when we did, we spent the money necessary so we wouldn't end up in a great depression unless we had a 1929. By the time we finished, we'd been great.
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Starting point is 01:05:12 and no wars, and so many other things. Everything is not for you. But the thing you never got the credit for and you should have is getting inside of that COVID mess. He created mandates that was a disaster for our country, but other than that, we had given him back and a and the or
Starting point is 01:06:01 said That's insane. His family, he was awarded the award for the Lord of the Sex, the Lord of the Mystic, the King of the Hells. He was the death of the largest president any president has in any one term. He's the only president other
Starting point is 01:06:13 than Herbert Hoover who's lost more jobs than he had when he began. Unbelievable. Since Herbert Hoover. Talk about Herbert Hoover. And I think he did something that was significant in the
Starting point is 01:06:22 military. You know, when he was president there were still killing people in Afghanistan. He didn't do anything about that. When he was president, we were still finding ourselves in a position where you had a notion that we were this safe country. The truth is, I'm the only president this century that doesn't have any, this decade, that doesn't have any troops dying anywhere in the world like he did. President Trump, I want to follow up if I can. Am I allowed to respond to him?
Starting point is 01:06:50 Well, I'm going to ask you a follow up. You can do whatever you want with the minute that we give you. I want to follow up. You want to impose a 10 percent tariff on all goods coming into the U.S. How will you ensure that that doesn't drive prices even higher? It's not going to drive them higher. It's just going to cause countries that have been ripping us off for years, like China and many others in all fairness to China, it's going to just force them to pay us a
Starting point is 01:07:11 lot of money, reduce our deficit tremendously, and give us a lot of power for other things. But he made a statement. The only thing he was right about is I gave you the largest tax cut in history. I also gave you the largest regulation cut in history. That's why we had all the jobs. And the jobs went down and then they bounced back and he's taking credit for bounced back jobs. You can't do that.
Starting point is 01:07:31 He also said he inherited 9% inflation. No, he inherited almost no inflation and it stayed that way for 14 months. And then it blew up under his leadership because they spent money like a bunch of people that didn't know what they were doing and they don't know what they were doing. It was probably the worst administration in history. There's never been and as far as Afghanistan is
Starting point is 01:07:51 concerned I was getting out of Afghanistan but we were getting out with dignity, with strength, with power. He got out. It was the most embarrassing day in the history of our country's life. President Trump, over the last eight years, under both of your administrations, the national debt soared to record highs. And according to a new nonpartisan analysis, President Trump, your administration approved $8.4 trillion in new debt,
Starting point is 01:08:15 while so far, President Biden, you've approved $4.3 trillion in new debt. So, former President Trump, many of the tax cuts that you signed into law are set to expire next year. You want to extend them and go even further, you say. With the U.S. facing trillion-dollar deficits and record debt, why should top earners and corporations pay even less in taxes than they do now? Because the tax cuts spurred the greatest economy that we've ever seen just prior to
Starting point is 01:08:41 COVID and even after COVID. It was so strong that we were able to get through COVID much better than just about any other country. But we spurred, that tax spurred. Now, when we cut the taxes, as an example, the corporate tax was cut down to 21 percent from 39 percent, plus beyond that, we took in more revenue with much less tax, and companies were bringing back trillions of dollars back into our country. The country was going like never before. And we were ready to start paying down debt. We're ready to start using the liquid gold right under our feet, the oil and gas right under our feet.
Starting point is 01:09:14 We were going to have something that nobody else has had. We got hit with COVID. We did a lot to fix it. I gave him an unbelievable situation with all of the therapeutics and all of the things that we came up with. We gave him something great. Remember, more people died under his administration, even though we had largely fixed it. More people died under his administration than our administration, and we were right in the middle of it. Something which a lot of people don't like to talk about. But he had far more people dying in his administration. And he did a very poor job, just a very poor job. And I will tell you, not only poor there, but
Starting point is 01:09:46 throughout the entire world, we're no longer respected as a country. They don't respect our leadership. They don't respect the United States anymore. We're like a third of the world. We're like a third of the world. And we're not respected as a country. We're not respected as a country.
Starting point is 01:10:01 We're not respected as a country. We're not respected as a country. We're not respected as a. We're no longer respected as a country. They don't respect our leadership They don't respect the United States anymore. We're like a third world nation between Weaponization of his election trying to go after his political opponent all of the things he's done We've become like a third world nation and it's a shame the damage He's done to our country and I'd love to ask him and Will why he allowed millions of people to come in here from prisons, jails, and mental institutions to come into our country and destroy our country.
Starting point is 01:10:33 President Trump, we will get to immigration later in this block. President Biden, I want to give you an opportunity to respond to this question about the national debt. He had the largest national debt of any president in a four-year period, number one. Number two, he got a $2 trillion tax cut and benefited the very wealthy. What I'm going to do is fix the tax system. For example, we have a thousand billionaires in America. I mean billionaires in America. And what's happening? They're in a situation
Starting point is 01:10:59 where they in fact pay 8.2 percent in taxes. If they just paid 24%, 25%, either one of those numbers, they'd raise $500 million, billion dollars, I should say, in a 10-year period. We'd be able to right-wipe out his debt, we'd be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do, childcare, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our healthcare system, making sure that we're able
Starting point is 01:11:24 to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID, excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with... This is really bad. Wait, what's he doing? Brain fire! He finally beat Medicare. Thank you, President Biden, President Trump. What the hell was that? He's right, he did beat Medicare. Thank you, President Biden, President Trump. What the hell was that? He's right, he did beat Medicare.
Starting point is 01:11:47 What the hell was that? He's destroying Medicare because all of these people are coming in. They're putting them on Medicare. They're putting them on Social Security. They're going to destroy Social Security. This man is going to single-handedly destroy Social Security. These millions and millions of people coming in, they're trying to put them on Social Security. He will wipe out Social Security. and he's going to go to the United States and he's going to go to the United States and he is going to go to the United States and he's going to
Starting point is 01:12:08 unilaterally destroy Social Security. These millions and millions of people coming in, they're trying to put them on Social Security. He will wipe out Social Security. He will wipe out Medicare. So he was right in the way he
Starting point is 01:12:22 finished that sentence. And it's a shame. What's happened to the United States of America. We're no longer respected. They don't like us. We give them everything they want and they think we're stupid. They think we're very stupid people. What we're doing for other countries and they do nothing for us. What this man has done is absolutely criminal.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Thank you, President Trump. Dana? This is the first presidential election since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. This morning, the court ruled on yet another abortion case, temporarily allowing emergency abortions to continue in Idaho, despite that state's restrictive ban. Former President Trump, you take credit for the decision to overturn Roe v. Wade which returned the issue of abortion to the states.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Correct. However, the federal government still plays a role in whether or not women have access to abortion pills. They're used in about two-thirds of all abortions. As president, would you block abortion medication? First of all, the Supreme Court just approved the abortion bill, and I agree with their decision to have done that, and I will not block it. And if you look at this whole question that you're asking, a complex but not really complex, 51 years ago, you had Roe v. Wade and everybody wanted to get it back to the states, everybody, without
Starting point is 01:13:45 exception, Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, everybody wanted it back, religious leaders. And what I did is I put three great Supreme Court justices on the court and they happened to vote in favor of killing Roe v. Wade and moving it back to the states. This is something that everybody wanted. Now, 10 years ago or so, they started talking about how many weeks and how many this, getting into other things.
Starting point is 01:14:09 But every legal scholar throughout the world, the most respected, wanted it brought back to the states. I did that. Now the states are working it out. If you look at Ohio, it was a decision that was, it was an end result that was a little bit more liberal than you would have thought. Kansas, I would say the same thing. Some people don't believe in that.
Starting point is 01:14:26 But I believe in the exceptions for rape, indecency, and sexual assault. And I think that's a very important decision. I think that's a very important decision. I think that's a very important decision. I think that's a very important decision. I think that's a very important decision. I think that's a very important decision.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I think that's a very important decision. I think that's a very important decision. I think it's important to believe in the exceptions. Some people, you have to follow your heart. Some people don't believe in that. But I believe in the exceptions for rape incest and the life of the mother. I think it's very important. Some people don't. Follow your heart. But you have to get elected also. And because that has to do with other things. You got to get elected. The problem they have is they're radical because they will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month, and even after birth. After birth, if you look at the former
Starting point is 01:15:10 governor of Virginia, he was willing to do this. He said, we'll put the baby aside and we'll determine what we do with the baby, meaning we'll kill the baby. What happened is we brought it back to the states and the country is now coming together on this issue. It's been a great thing. Beautiful. President Biden. It's been a terrible thing what you've done. The fact is that the vast majority of scholars supported Roe when it was decided. Support it Roe. And that was that's this idea that they were all against it is just ridiculous. And this is the guy who says the state should be able to have it. We're a state where in six weeks You don't even know whether you're pregnant or not
Starting point is 01:15:47 But you cannot see a doctor have your and have him decide on what your circumstances are whether you need help The idea that states are able to do this is a little like saying we're gonna turn civil rights back to the states What each state have a different rule? look, there's so many young women who have been, including a young woman who just was murdered, and he went to the funeral, and the idea that she was murdered by an immigrant coming in to talk about that, but here's the deal. There's a lot of young women to be raped by their in-laws,
Starting point is 01:16:21 by their spouses, brothers and sisters. By, it's just ridiculous. And they can do nothing about it. And they try to arrest them on the cross-state line. Thank you. Yep. There have been many young women murdered by the same people he allows to come across our border.
Starting point is 01:16:38 We have a border that's the most dangerous place anywhere in the world. Consider the most dangerous place anywhere in the world. And he opened it up, and these killers are coming into our country and they are raping and killing women. And it's a terrible thing. As far as the abortion is concerned, it is now back with the states. The states are voting. In many cases, it's frankly a very liberal decision. In many cases, it's the opposite. But they're voting and it's bringing it back to the vote of
Starting point is 01:17:04 the people, which is what everybody wanted, including the founders if they knew about this issue, which frankly they didn't. But they would have, everybody wanted brought back, Ronald Reagan wanted it brought back, he wasn't able to get it. Everybody wanted it brought back and many presidents had tried to get it back. I was the one to do it. And again, this gives it the vote of the people, and that's where they wanted it. Every legal scholar wanted it that way.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Staying on the topic of abortion, President Biden, seven states, I'll let you do that, this is the same topic, seven states have no legal restrictions on how far into a pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion. Do you support any legal limits on how late a woman should be terminated a woman can obtain an abortion. Do you support any legal limits on how late a woman should be terminated pregnancy? I support Roe v. Wade, which had three trimesters. The first time is between the woman and the doctor.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Second time is between the doctor and an extreme situation. The third time is between the doctor, I mean, between the woman and the state. The idea that the politicians, that the founders want the politicians to be the ones making decisions about women's health is ridiculous. That's the last, no politician should be making that decision. A doctor should be making those decisions. That's how it should be run. That's what you're going to do.
Starting point is 01:18:21 And if I'm elected, I'm going to restore Roe v. Wade. If I'm elected, you're going to do. And if I'm elected, I'm going to restore Roe v. Wade. If I'm elected, you're already over there. So that means he can take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth, because some states, Democrat-run, take it after birth. Again, the governor, former governor of Virginia, put the baby down, then we decide what to do with it. So he's willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month
Starting point is 01:18:43 and kill the baby. Nobody wants that to happen, Democrat or Republican. Nobody wants it to happen. I'm going to lie. That is simply not true. The Roe v. Wade does not provide for that. That's not the circumstance. Only if a woman's life is in danger, she's going to die.
Starting point is 01:18:59 That's the only circumstance in which that can happen. But we are not for late-term abortion, period. Period, period. Under Roe v. we are not for late-term abortion, period. Under Roe v. Wade, you have late-term abortion. You can do whatever you want, depending on the state. You can do whatever you want. We don't think that's a good thing. We think it's a radical thing.
Starting point is 01:19:15 We think the Democrats are the radicals, not the Republicans. For 51 years, that was the law. 51 years, Constance of Scholarship said it was the right way to go. 51 years, and it was taken away because this guy put very conservative members on the Supreme Court. He takes credit for taking it away. What's he going to do? What's he going to do in fact if the if the MAGA Republicans, he gets elected and the MAGA Republicans control the Congress and they pass on the universal ban on abortion period across the board at six weeks or seven or
Starting point is 01:19:45 eight or ten weeks, something very, very conservative. Is he going to sign that bill? I'll veto it. He'll sign it. Thank you. Let's turn now to the issue of immigration and border security. President Biden, a record number of migrants have illegally crossed the southern border on your watch, overwhelming border states and overburdening cities such as New York
Starting point is 01:20:04 and Chicago, and in some cases causing real safety and security concerns. Given that, why should voters trust you to solve this crisis? Because we worked very hard to get a bipartisan agreement that not only changed all of that, made sure that we are in a situation where you had no circumstance where they could come across the border with the number of border police there are now. We significantly increased the number of asylum officers. Significantly, by the way, the border patrol endorsed me, endorsed my position.
Starting point is 01:20:34 In addition to that, we found ourselves in a situation where when he was president, he was taking, separating babies from their mothers, putting them in cages, making sure the families were separated. That's not the right way to go. What I've done since I've changed the law, what's happened? I've changed it in a way that now you're in a situation where there are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally, that's better than when he left office.
Starting point is 01:20:59 And I'm going to continue to move until we get the total ban on the total initiative relative to what we can do with more border patrol and more asylum officers. President Trump? I really don't know what he said at the end of his speech. We have the safest border in the history of our country. All he had to do was leave it. He decided to open up our border, open up our country.
Starting point is 01:21:26 What's he saying? What's he saying? People that are from prisons, people that are from mental institutions, insane asylum, terrorists. That was the moment. The largest number of terrorists coming into our country right now. Let's hear what he's saying.
Starting point is 01:21:38 All over the world, not just in South America, all over the world they come from the Middle East everywhere. All over the world they're pouring in. And this guy just left it open. They come from the Middle East, everywhere. All over the world, they're pouring in. And this guy just left it open. And he didn't need legislation, because I didn't have legislation. I said, close the border. We had the safest border in history.
Starting point is 01:21:53 In that final couple of months of my presidency, we had, according to Border Patrol, who is great, and by the way, who endorsed me for president, but I won't say that, but who endorsed me for president. Brandon, just speak to him. But, look, we had this... Brandon, just keep going!
Starting point is 01:22:09 Now we have the worst border issue. He called him Brandon. There's never been anything like it. And people are dying all over the place, including the people that are coming up in caravans. Thank you, President Trump. President Biden? The only terrorist who's done anything across the border
Starting point is 01:22:22 is one who came along and killed three under his administration killed an al-qaeda person come in and his administration kill three American soldiers this is the worst debate performance I've ever seen. They're giving up on him. They didn't drug him up. It's simply not true there's no data to support what he said. Once again, he's exaggerating. He's lying. President Trump, staying on the topic of immigration, you've said that you're going to carry out, quote, the largest domestic deportation operation in American history, unquote. Does that mean that you will deport every undocumented immigrant in America, including
Starting point is 01:23:00 those who have jobs, including those whose spouses are citizens, and including those who have lived here for decades. And if so, how will you do it? Just one second. He said we killed three people. The people we killed are Al Baghdadi and Salamani, the two greatest terrorists, biggest terrorists anywhere in the world. And it had a huge impact on everything, not just border, on everything.
Starting point is 01:23:23 He's the one that killed people with the bad water, including hundreds of thousands of people dying and also killing our citizens when they come in. We are living right now in a rat's nest. They're killing our people in New York, in California, in every state in the union, because we don't have borders anymore. Every state is now a border.
Starting point is 01:23:44 And because of his ridiculous, insane and very stupid policies, people are coming in and they're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen. We call it migrant crime. I call it Biden migrant crime. They're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen before. And you're reading it like these three incredible young girls over the last few days. One of them, I just spoke to the mother, and he just had the funeral for this girl, 12 years old. This is horrible what's taking place.
Starting point is 01:24:14 What's taking place in our country. We're literally an uncivilized country now. He doesn't want it to be. He just doesn't know. He opened the borders. Nobody's ever seen anything like. And we have to get a lot of these people out, and we have to get them out fast, because they're going to destroy our country.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Just take a look at where they're living. They're living in luxury hotels in New York City and other places. Our veterans are on the street. They're dying because he doesn't care about our veterans. He doesn't care. He doesn't like the military at all. And he doesn't care about our veterans. Nobody been worse. I had the highest approval rating for veterans taking care of the VA. He has the worst. He's gotten rid of all the things that I approved. Choice, that I got through Congress, all of the different things I approved. They abandoned. We had by far the highest and now it's down in less than half because he's done all these great things that we did.
Starting point is 01:25:05 And I think he did it just because I approved it, which is crazy. But he has killed so many people at our border by allowing all of these people to come in. It's a very sad day in America. President Biden, you have the mic. Every single thing he said is a lie. Every single one. For example, veterans are a hell of a lot better off since I passed the PACDAQ. One million of them now have insurance
Starting point is 01:25:25 and their families have it. Their families have it because what happened, whether it was Agent Orange or burn pits, they're all being covered now. And he opposed, his group opposed that. We're also in a situation where we have great respect for veterans. My son spent a year in Iraq,
Starting point is 01:25:41 leaving one of the next one of those burn pits, came back with stage four glioblastoma. I was recently in France for D-Day, and I spoke to all about those heroes that died. I went to the World War II cemetery, World War I cemetery he refused to go to. He was standing with his four-star general, and he told me, he said,
Starting point is 01:26:01 I don't want to go in there because there are a bunch of losers and suckers. My son was not a loser, he was not a sucker. You're the sucker. You're the loser. President Trump? Wow. First of all, that was a made up quote, suckers and losers.
Starting point is 01:26:12 They made it up. It was in a third rate magazine that's failing like many of these magazines. He made that up. He put it in commercials. We've notified him. We had 19 people that said I didn't say it. And think of this, who would say I'm at a cemetery or I'm talking about our veterans, because nobody's taking better care?
Starting point is 01:26:29 I'm so glad this came up and he brought it up. There's nobody that's taken better care of our soldiers than I have. Look at Biden's face. To think that I would, in front of generals and others, say, suckers and losers. We have 19 people that said, it was never said by me. It was made up by him just like Russia Russia Russia was made up just like the 51 intelligence agents are made up just like the new thing with the 16 economists are talking it's the same thing 51 intelligence agents said that the laptop
Starting point is 01:27:00 was Russia disinformation it wasn't That came from his son Hunter. It wasn't Russia disinformation. He made up the suckers and losers story. He should apologize to me right now. Four star general stands your side who was on your staff who said you said it, period. That's number one. And number two, the idea, the idea that I have to apologize to you for anything along the line.
Starting point is 01:27:24 We've done more for veterans than any president has in American history. American history. And they now are in their family. The only sacred obligation we have as a country is to care for our veterans when they come home and their families and equip them when they go to war. That's what we're doing. That's what the VA is doing now. They're doing more for veterans than ever before in our history.
Starting point is 01:27:43 No, they're not. No, they're not. All right. Thank you so much. Let's move to the topic of foreign policy. I want to begin with Russia's war against Ukraine, which is now in its third year. What the hell was that? Former President Trump, Russian President Vladimir Putin says he'll only end this war if Russia keeps the Ukrainian territory it has already claimed, and Ukraine abandons its bid to join NATO. Are Putin's terms acceptable to you?
Starting point is 01:28:10 First of all, our veterans and our soldiers can't stand this guy. They can't stand him. They think he's the worst commander in chief, if that's what you call him, that we've ever had. They can't stand him. So let's get that straight. And they like me more than just about any of them. And that's based on every single bit of information.
Starting point is 01:28:30 As far as Russia and Ukraine, if we had a real president, the president that knew, that was respected by Putin, he would have never, he would have never invaded Ukraine. A lot of people are dead right now, much more than people know. You know, they talk about numbers. You can double those numbers, maybe triple those numbers. He did nothing to stop it.
Starting point is 01:28:49 In fact, I think he encouraged Russia from going in. I'll tell you what happened. He was so bad with Afghanistan. It was such a horrible embarrassment, most embarrassing moment in the history of our country that when Putin watched that and he saw the incompetence that he should have fired those generals like I fired the one that you mentioned mentioned, so he's got no love lost, but he should have fired those generals. No general got fired for the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, Afghanistan,
Starting point is 01:29:16 where we left billions of dollars of equipment behind. We lost 13 beautiful soldiers and 38 soldiers were obliterated. And by the way, we left people behind too. We left American citizens behind. When Putin saw that, he said, you know what? I think we're going to go in and maybe take my, this was his dream. I talked to him about it, his dream.
Starting point is 01:29:36 The difference is he never would have invaded Ukraine. Never, just like Israel would have never been invaded in a million years by Hamas. You know why? Because Iran was broke with me. I wouldn't let anybody do business with them. They ran out of money. They were broke.
Starting point is 01:29:54 They had no money for Hamas. They had no money for anything. No money for terror. That's why you had no terror at all during my administration. This place, the whole world is blowing up under him. President Biden. I've never heard so much malarkey in my whole life. Look, the fact of the matter is that we're in a situation where, let's take the last point first.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Iran attacked American troops, killed, caused brain damage for a number of these troops. And he did nothing about it. Recently, not when he was president, they attacked. He he said they're just having headaches that's all it is he didn't do a thing when the attack took place number one number two we got over a hundred thousand Americans and others out of Afghanistan during that never brought that up three no found ourselves in a situation where if you take a look at what Trump did
Starting point is 01:30:45 in Ukraine, this guy told Trump, do whatever you want and do whatever you want. And that's exactly what Trump did to Putin, encourage him, do whatever you want. And he went in. Listen to what he said when he went in. He was going to take Kiev in five days, remember? Because it's part of the old Soviet Union. That's what he wanted to reestablish, Kiev. And he in fact didn't do it at all.
Starting point is 01:31:09 He didn't, wasn't able to get it done. And they've lost over, they've lost thousands and thousands of troops. Dude, this is all on purpose. 500,000 troops. Thank you. Yeah. President Trump, if I could come back to you for one minute. I just want to go back to my original question, which is, are Putin's terms acceptable to
Starting point is 01:31:24 you? Keeping the territory in Ukraine. No are Putin's terms acceptable to you, keeping the territory in Ukraine? No, they're not acceptable. No, they're not acceptable. But look, this is a war that never should have started. If we had a leader in this war, he led everybody along. He's given $200 billion now or more to Ukraine. He's given $200 billion.
Starting point is 01:31:41 That's a lot of money. I don't think there's ever been anything like it. Every time that Zelensky comes to this country, he walks away with $60 billion, that's a lot of money. I don't think there's ever been anything like it. Every time that Zelensky comes to this country, walks away with $60 billion, he's the greatest salesman ever. And I'm not knocking him, I'm not knocking anything. I'm only saying the money that we're spending on this war, and we shouldn't be spending, it should have never happened. I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelensky as president-elect before I
Starting point is 01:32:06 take office on January 20th. I'll have that war settled. People being killed so needlessly, so stupidly, and I will get it settled and I'll get it settled fast before I take office. You know, the fact is that Putin is a war criminal. He's killed thousands and thousands of people. And he has made one thing clear. He wants to reestablish what was part of the Soviet empire, not just a piece that wants all of Ukraine. That's what he wants. And then you think he'll stop there?
Starting point is 01:32:38 Do you think he'll stop when he, if he takes Ukraine? What do you think happens to the Pol? What do you think of Belarus? What do you think happens to those NATO? What do you think of Belarus? What do you think happens to those NATO countries? And so if you want a war, you ought to find out what he's going to do, because if in fact he does what he says and walks away,
Starting point is 01:32:54 by the way, all that money we give Ukraine and from weapons we make here in the United States, we give them the weapons, not the money at this point. And our NATO allies have produced as much funding for Ukraine as we have. That's why we're strong. Thank you. Moving on to the Middle East. In October, Hamas attacked Israel, killing more than 1,000 people and taking hundreds
Starting point is 01:33:18 of hostages. Among those held and thought to still be alive are five Americans. Israel's response has killed thousands of Palestinians and created a humanitarian crisis in Gaza. President Biden, you've put forward a proposal to resolve this conflict. But so far, Hamas has not released the remaining hostages, and Israel is continuing its military offensive in Gaza. So what additional leverage will you use to get Hamas and Israel to end the war? You have two minutes.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Number one, everyone from the United Nations Security Council straight through to the G7 to the Israelis and Netanyahu himself have endorsed the plan I put forward, endorsed the plan I put forward, Which has three stages to it. The first stage is to trade the hostages for a ceasefire. Second phase is a ceasefire with additional conditions. The third phase is the end of the war. The only one who wants the war to continue is Hamas,
Starting point is 01:34:20 number one. They're the only ones standing out. We're still pushing hard to get get them to accept in the meantime What's happened in Israel? We're finding the only thing I've denied Israel was 2,000 pound bombs. They don't work very well in populated areas They kill a lot of innocent people who are providing Israel with all the weapons they need and when they need them And by the way, I'm the guy that organized the world against Iran when they had a full blown intercontinental ballistic missile attack on Israel.
Starting point is 01:34:50 No one was hurt. One Israeli was accidentally killed and it stopped. We saved Israel. We are the biggest producer of support for Israel of any one in the world. And so that's two different things. Mosque cannot be allowed to be continued. We continue to send our experts and our intelligence people to how they can get to Mosque like we did in Bin Laden. You don't have to do it.
Starting point is 01:35:15 And by the way, they've been greatly weakened to Mosque, greatly weakened and they should be. They should be eliminated. But you've got to be careful for what using certain weapons among population centers. Just going back to Ukraine for one second. We have an ocean separating us.
Starting point is 01:35:33 The European nations together have spent a hundred billion or maybe more than that, less than us. Why doesn't he call them, say, you got to put up your money like I did with NATO? I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars. The secretary general of NATO said, Trump did the most incredible job I've ever seen. They wouldn't have any — they were going out of business. We were spending almost 100 percent of the money was paid by us. He didn't do that.
Starting point is 01:36:00 He's getting all — you've got to ask these people to put up the money. We're over $100 billion more spent spent and it has a bigger impact on them because of location, because we have a notion in between. You got to ask them. As far as Israel and Hamas, Israel's the one that wants to go. He said the only one who wants to keep going is Hamas. Actually, Israel is the one and you should let him go and let him finish the job. He doesn't want to do it. He's become like a Palestinian, but they don't like him because he's a very bad Palestinian. He's a weak one.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Holy shit. President Biden, do you have a minute? I've never heard so much foolishness. This is a guy who wants to get out of NATO. Unbelievable. He's going to pull out of NATO. The idea that we have our strength lies in our alliances as well. It may be a big ocean, but we're able to avoid a war in Europe, a major war in Europe. We have a strong alliance with the United States. The idea that we have our strength lies in our
Starting point is 01:36:45 alliances as well. It may be a big ocean but we are able to avoid a war in Europe, a major war in Europe. What happens if in fact you have Putin continue to go into NATO? We have an Article 5 agreement, attack on one is attack on all. You want to start the nuclear war he keeps
Starting point is 01:37:04 talking about, go ahead, let Putin go in and control Ukraine and then move on to Poland and other places. We'll see what happens then. He has no idea what the hell he's talking about. And by the way, I got 50 other nations around the world to support Ukraine, including Japan and South Korea, because they understand that this kind of dislocation has a serious threat to the whole world peace. No major war in Europe has ever been able
Starting point is 01:37:25 to be contained just to Europe. President Trump, just to follow up, would you support the creation of an independent Palestinian state in order to achieve peace in the region? I'd have to see, but before we do that, the problem we have is that we spend all the money. So they kill us on trade.
Starting point is 01:37:41 I made great trade deals with the European nations. Because if you add them up, they're about the same size economically. Their economy is about the same size as the United States. And they were written, no cars, no. They don't want anything that we have. But we're supposed to take their cars, their food, their everything, their agriculture. I changed that. But the big thing I changed is they don't want to pay. And the only reason that he can play games with NATO is because I got them to put up
Starting point is 01:38:09 hundreds of billions of dollars. I said, and he's right about this, I said, no, I'm not going to support NATO if you don't pay. They asked me that question, would you guard us against Russia at a very secret meeting of the 28 states at that time, nations at that time. And I said, no, if you don't pay, I won't do that. And you know what happened? Billions and billions of dollars came flowing in
Starting point is 01:38:32 the next day and the next months. But now we're in the same position. We're paying everybody's bills. Let's turn to the issue of democracy. Former President Trump, I want to ask you about January 6th, 2021. After you rallied your supporters that day, some of them stormed the Capitol to stop the constitutionally mandated counting of electoral votes.
Starting point is 01:38:52 As president, you swore an oath to, quote, preserve, protect, and defend, unquote, the Constitution. What do you say to voters who believe that you violated that oath through your actions and inaction on January 6 and worried that you'll do it again. Well, I don't think too many believe that. And let me tell you about January 6th. On January 6th, we had a great border. Nobody coming through, very few.
Starting point is 01:39:14 On January 6th, we were energy independent. On January 6th, we had the lowest taxes ever. We had the lowest regulations ever. On January 6th, we were respected all over the world. All over the world, we were respected. over the world. All over the world we were respected. And then he comes in and we're now left at. We're like a bunch of stupid people. That what happened to the United States' reputation under this man's leadership is horrible. Including weaponization, which I'm sure at some point you'll be talking about, where he goes after his political
Starting point is 01:39:43 opponent because he can't beat him fair and square. Yes. You have 80 seconds left. My question was, what do you say to those voters who believe that you violated your constitutional oath through your actions and inaction on January 6, 2021, and worry that you'll do it again? Well, I didn't say that to anybody.
Starting point is 01:40:00 I said peacefully and patriotically. And Nancy Pelosi, if you just watched the news from two days ago, on tape to her daughter, who's a documentary filmmaker, as they say, but she's saying, oh no, it's my responsibility, I was responsible for this, because I offered her 10,000 soldiers or National Guard. Yep. And she turned them down. And the mayor of, in writing, by the way, the mayor, in writing turned it down, the mayor of DC. They turned them down. And the mayor of, in writing, by the way, the mayor, in writing, turned it down, the mayor of DC.
Starting point is 01:40:27 They turned it down. I offered $10,000 because I could see, I had virtually nothing to do. They asked me to go make a speech. I could see what was happening. Everybody was saying they're going to be there on January 6th. They're going to be there. And I said, you know what? There's a lot of people coming.
Starting point is 01:40:41 You could feel it. You could feel it too. And you could feel it. And I said, they ought to have some national guard or whatever, and I offered it to her. And she now admits that she turned it down. And it was the same day she was, I don't know, he can't be very happy with her daughter because it made her into a liar.
Starting point is 01:40:59 She said, I take full responsibility for January 6th. President Biden? Here he goes. He encouraged those folks to go up to Capitol Hill, number one. I sat in the dining room off the Oval Office. He sat there for three hours, three hours watching, begging, being begged by his Vice President and a number of his colleagues on the Republican side as well to do something, to call for a stop, to end it. Instead, they've talked about these people being patriots
Starting point is 01:41:27 and great patrons of America. In fact, he says he'll now forgive them for what they've done. They've been convicted. He says he wants to commute their sentences and say that no. He went to every single court in the nation. I don't know how many cases, scores of cases, including the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 01:41:47 And they said, they said, no, no, this guy, this guy is responsible for doing what is being, what was done. He did do a damn thing. And these people should be in jail. And they should be the ones who are being held accountable. And he wants to let them all out. And now he says if he loses again, such a whiner that he is, that there could be a bloodbath.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Thank you, President Biden. President Trump? What they've done to some people that are so innocent, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. What you have done, how you've destroyed the lives of so many people. When they ripped down Portland,
Starting point is 01:42:21 when they ripped down many other cities, you go to Minnesota, Minneapolis, what they've down Portland, when they rip down many other cities, you go to Minnesota, Minneapolis, what they've done there with the fires all over the city. If I didn't bring in the National Guard, that city would have been destroyed. When you look at all of the — they took over big chunks of Seattle. I was all set to bring in the National Guard. They heard that. They saw them coming and they left immediately.
Starting point is 01:42:43 What he said about this whole subject is so off, peacefully patriotic. One other thing, the unselected committee, which is basically two horrible Republicans that are all gone now out of office, and Democrats, all Democrats, they destroyed and deleted all of the information they found because they found out we were right. We were right. And they deleted and destroyed all of the information they found because they found out we were right. We were right. And they deleted and destroyed all of the information. They should go to jail for that. If a Republican did that, they'd go to jail.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Thank you, President Trump. President Biden, I want to give you a minute. The only person on this stage is a convicted felon is the man I'm looking at right now. And the fact of the matter is, he isn't, what he's telling you is simply not true. The fact is that there was no effort on his part to stop what was going on up in Capitol Hill. And all those people, every one of those who were convicted deserves to be convicted. The idea that they didn't kill somebody,
Starting point is 01:43:37 just went in and broke down doors, broke the windows, occupied offices, turned over desks, turned them over statues. The idea that those people are patriots, come on. When I asked him the first two debates we had, the debates we had the first time around, I said, will you denounce the Proud Boys? He said, no, I'll tell them to stand by.
Starting point is 01:43:56 The idea he's refusing to, will you denounce these guys? Will you denounce the people we're talking about now? Will you denounce the people who attacked that Capitol? What are you going to do? I said, we denounce the people we're talking about now, we denounce the people who attacked that Capitol. What are you gonna do? I'm gonna give you a minute, President Trump,
Starting point is 01:44:14 for a follow-up question I have. Ignore them, go. After a jury- The moderators are confused. Of 34 felonies last month, you said if re-elected, you would, quote, have every right to go after, unquote, your political opponents. You just talked about members of the select committee on January 6th going to jail. Your main political opponent is standing on stage with you tonight.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Can you clarify exactly what it means about you feeling you have every right to go after your political opponents? Well, I said my retribution is going to be success. We're going to make this country successful again because right now it's a failing nation. My retribution is going to be a success. But when he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon at a very high level. His son is convicted, going to be convicted probably numerous other times.
Starting point is 01:44:56 Should have been convicted before, but his Justice Department let the statute of limitations lapse on the most important things. But he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office. Joe could be a convicted felon with all of the things that he's done. He's done horrible things. All of the death caused at the border, telling the Ukrainian people that we're going to want a billion dollars or you change the prosecutor, otherwise you're not getting a billion dollars. Have I ever said that?
Starting point is 01:45:22 That's quid pro quo. That we're not going to do anything. We're not going to give you a billion dollars unless If I ever said that, that's quid pro quo. That we're not going to do anything. We're not going to give you a billion dollars unless you change your prosecutor having to do with the son. This man is a criminal. This man, you're lucky. You're lucky. I did nothing wrong. We'd have a system that was rigged and disgusting. I did nothing wrong. Thank you, President Trump. President Biden, you have said, I'm coming right to you, sir. You, well, You want to respond?
Starting point is 01:45:45 Go ahead, I'll give you a minute to respond. The idea that I did anything wrong relative to what you're talking about is outrageous. It's simply a lie, number one. Number two, the idea that you have a right to seek retribution against any American just because you're president is wrong. It's simply wrong. No president's ever spoken like that before. No president in our history has spoken like that before. Number three, the crimes that
Starting point is 01:46:09 you are still charged with, and think of all the civil penalties you have. How many billions of dollars do you owe in civil penalties for molesting a woman in public, for doing a whole range of things? This is shameful. Of having sex with a porn star on the night while your wife was pregnant. I told you. What are you talking about? You have the morals of an alley cat.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Give me a minute, sir. I didn't have sex with a porn star, number one. Number two, that was a case that was started and moved. They moved a high-ranking official, a DOJ, into the Manhattan DA's office to start that case. That case is going to be appealed and won. We had a very terrible judge, a horrible judge, Democrat. The prosecutor, we're all high ranking Democrats, appointed people, and both the civil and the criminal.
Starting point is 01:46:59 He basically went after his political opponent because he thought it was going to damage me. But when the public found out about these cases, because they understand it better than he does, he has no idea what these cases are. But when he when they found out about these cases, you know what they did? My poll numbers went up way up. You know that because you're reporting it. And we took in more money in the last two weeks than we've ever taken in in the history
Starting point is 01:47:20 of any campaign. I don't think any campaign has ever taken. Hundreds of millions of dollars came pouring in because the public knows it's a scam and it's a guy that's after his political opponent because he can't win fair and square. Thank you, President Trump. President Biden, you have said, quote, Donald Trump and his MAGA Republicans
Starting point is 01:47:38 are determined to destroy American democracy. Do you believe that the tens of millions of Americans who are likely to vote for President Trump will be voting against American democracy. Do you believe that the tens of millions of Americans who are likely to vote for President Trump will be voting against American democracy? The more they know about what he's done, yes. The more they know about what he's done. And there's a lot more coming. He's got a lot of cases down the road coming around. He's got a whole range of issues he has to face. I don't know what the juries will do, but I do know he has a real problem. And so the fact that...
Starting point is 01:48:06 Could you ever think you heard any president say that I'm going to seek retribution? Did you ever hear any president say that I thought Hitler had some good ideas? What got me involved to run the first place after my son had died, I decided, in Iraq, because of Iraq, I said I wasn't going to run again. Until I saw what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia.
Starting point is 01:48:24 People coming out of the woods carrying swastikas on torches and singing the same anastomatic bile they sang back in Germany. And the young woman got killed. What the hell? I spoke to her mother and they asked him, they said, what do you think of those people? The people who got killed, the one who tried to stop it? And the one they said, what do you think of those people? The people who, the ones who got killed, the one who tried to stop it, and the ones he said,
Starting point is 01:48:47 I think they're fine people on both sides. What American president would ever say, Nazis coming out of fields carrying torches, singing the same nanosemitic vile, carrying swastikas, or fine people? This is the guy who says Hitler's done some good things. I'd like to know what they are. What? The good things Hitler's done.
Starting point is 01:49:08 That's what he said. The fuck? This guy has no sense of American democracy. President Trump. Jake, both of you know that story has been totally wiped out because when you see the sentence it said 100 percent exoneration on this. So he just keeps it going. He says he ran because of Charlottesville.
Starting point is 01:49:24 He didn't run because of Charlottesville. He ran because it was his last chance. He's not equipped to be president. You know it and I know it. It's ridiculous. We have a debate. We're trying to justify his presidency. His presidency, he's without question, the worst president, the worst presidency in the history of our country. We shouldn't be having a debate about it. There's nothing to debate. He made up the Charlottesville story. And you'll see it's debunked all over the place.
Starting point is 01:49:51 Every anchor has debunked it. Every reasonable anchor has debunked it. And just the other day, it came out where it was fully debunked. It's a nonsense story. He knows that. And he didn't run because of Charlottesville. He used that as an excuse to run.
Starting point is 01:50:05 President Biden? And debunked. It happened. All you have to do is listen to what was said at the time. And the idea that somehow that's the only reason I ran. I ran because I was worried a guy like this guy could get elected. If he thought they were good people coming out of that forest, carrying those woods, carrying those torches, then he didn't deserve to
Starting point is 01:50:25 be president, didn't deserve to be president at all. And the idea that he's talking about all this being fabricated, we saw with our own eyes, we saw what happened on January 7th, we saw the people breaking through the windows, we saw people occupying his own vice president. Look, there's a reason why 40 of his 44 top cabinet officers refused to endorse him this time. His vice president hasn't endorsed him this time. So why? Why? They know him well. They serve with him. Why are they not endorsing him? Thank you, President Biden. We're going to be right back with more from the CNN presidential debate. Are we going to discuss this right now?
Starting point is 01:51:03 Rob, do me a favor, Rob. Go me a favor Rob, go to my Twitter account. Go to my Twitter account. You're standing up in the middle of the camera guys, be careful. No, no, they can, you're fine guys. Go to the bathroom. We're here, if you do need to, I'm gonna show you right now. Yeah. Rob, go to my last tweet.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Guys, if you can do me a favor, you can walk around but don't make a lot of noise. Yeah, not too much noise guys. Guys, if you can, you guys can go to the walk around but don't make a lot of noise. Yeah, not too much noise, guys. Guys, you guys can go to the bathroom, just keep it down so the audience can hear us. This is because you'd be in jail moment and it's over after this. Go ahead, Rob. This is it. This is what it was done with. The total initiative relative to what we're going to do with more border patrol and more
Starting point is 01:51:46 asylum officers. President Trump? I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. Yeah. I don't think he knows what he said either. It's done. By the way, this is, I don't even know what word to use. This is done. This is embarrassing. And the most important question every voter has to answer is the following. Yeah. Okay? What is the likelihood that China, Russia and Iran is watching this right now? 100%.
Starting point is 01:52:12 Let me ask you a question. If they could somehow, someway participate to manipulate our election, which one of those two do you think they would prefer winning the election? Joe Biden. Not even close. Joe Biden. period, done. That's the only thing, if the only way you vote, if you're trying to make sure the country is safe
Starting point is 01:52:32 for you, your wife, your husband, your kids, ask the question, do you believe China, Russia, and Iran hate America? If they do, do you believe they would prefer to go up against a Trump or a Biden? Based on whatever your answer is, vote accordingly. Wow, and I genuinely think, because we all, everybody here knows what they just saw.
Starting point is 01:52:54 That's them not giving him the drugs. It's embarrassing. That's them shifting off of him, Pat. This is proof from the state of the union to right now, that's exactly what they wanted. That's why Gavin Newsom's ass is at the debate. I'm telling you guys right now, this is everybody shifting off of Adam. That moment, that switch and bait and whatever you called it, that is it.
Starting point is 01:53:15 And his voice is rasped because for a week they've been making him practice and yell and scream and whatever and this is the result. I don't know what you're talking about. I thought he looked great. Yeah. Yeah. No, I thought Biden looked sharp. I thought he looked on point.
Starting point is 01:53:30 I thought. Would you agree though? Cause what happened to the drugged up, you know, giving him the stuff? That's not the same guy. Meaning figuratively enough, whatever. That's not the same guy that was at the State of the Union. That is the most embarrassing shit I've seen.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Yeah, I'll actually be serious right now. This is a watershed moment in American history. I've watched every single debate, every single presidential debate since 1992 because Bill Clinton was my guy. And this is literally the worst debate performance I've ever seen. This is embarrassing the worst debate performance I've ever seen. This is embarrassing for America.
Starting point is 01:54:08 This is embarrassing for the Democratic Party. This is embarrassing for Joe Biden, if he even stills to know what's happening right now. It's not a good look. And they're going to have to go back to the drawing board literally after this bathroom break and say, what the hell are we going to do for now? They spent a week prepping for this. This is what you got? With 16 people. They supposedly were going to give him drugs and drug them up. Why didn't you do it, guys? I said at the beginning of this podcast, the goal of Joe Biden should not be to win. The debate it was to not lose.
Starting point is 01:54:45 You showed... Dude, do a C. Pass the test. This is an F-minus. He's failed. It's embarrassing. I'll tell you this. He used the convicted felon line twice. You know, with the over-under was three. I'd rather have a convicted felon
Starting point is 01:55:02 than a certified vegetable. A certified vegetable in the White House. How can... Here's a message to any Democratic friends of mine that are watching this, and to the Blue No Matter Who crowd. How can you possibly vote for this? Put away all your feelings about Trump, all the, you know, both sides, all the stuff, gender sex.
Starting point is 01:55:22 How in the world can you say, yeah, he's got my vote? It's embarrassing. And I mean this sincerely. All the, you know, both sides, all the stuff, gender-sex, how in the world can you say, yeah, he's got my vote? It's embarrassing. And I mean this sincerely, Joe Biden, thank you for your 50 years of contribution to America. Exit stage left, it's over. Black families still earn far less than white families.
Starting point is 01:55:42 Black mothers are still three times more likely to die for pregnancy-related causes. And black Americans are in prison at five times the rate of white Americans. What do you say to black voters who are disappointed that you haven't made more progress? I acknowledge they made a lot of progress, number one. The fact of the matter is there are more small black businesses that have been started at any time in history.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Number two, the wages of black, black unemployment is the lowest in the country. The fact of the matter is there are more small black businesses that have been started at any time in history. Number two, the wages of black, black unemployment is the lowest level of spending in a long, long time. Number three, we find them providing housing for black Americans and dealing with segregation that exists among these corporate, these corporate corporations that collude. Just cut it early to keep people out of their houses. In addition to that, we find that the impact of
Starting point is 01:56:32 on the choice that black families have to make relative to child care is incredibly difficult. When we did the first major piece of legislation in the past, I was able to reduce black childcare costs. I cut them in half, in half.
Starting point is 01:56:51 We got to make sure we provide for childcare costs. We got to make sure because when you provide that childcare protections, you increase economic growth because more people can be in the job market. So there's more to be done, considerably more to be done. But we've done a great deal so far and I'm not letting up and they know it. You have 49 seconds left.
Starting point is 01:57:12 What do you say to black voters who are disappointed with the progress so far? I say I don't blame them for being disappointed. Inflation is still hurting them badly. For example, I provided for the idea that any black family, first time homebuyers should get a $10,000 tax credit to be able to buy their first home so they can get started.
Starting point is 01:57:32 I made sure that we're in a situation where all those black families and those black individuals who provided, had to take out student loans that were baloney, that if they were engaged in nursing. Did he say baloney? Did he just say baloney? Anything having to do with volunteers. Black families baloneyed, that if they were engaged in nursing, anything having to do with volunteers, if they paid their bills for 10 years, their student debt, all the rest is forgiven after 10 years. We're going to do a whole lot more to black families.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Thank you, President Trump. And he caused the inflation. He's blaming inflation. Wow. And he's right, it's been very bad. He caused the inflation, and it's killing black families and Hispanic families and just about everybody. It's killing people. They can't buy groceries anymore.
Starting point is 01:58:15 They can't... You look at the cost of food, where it's doubled and tripled and quadrupled. They can't live. They're not living anymore. He caused this inflation. I gave him a country with essentially no inflation. It was perfect. It was so good. All he had to do was leave it alone.
Starting point is 01:58:33 He destroyed it with his Green New scam and all of the other, all this money that's being thrown out the window. He caused inflation. As sure as you're sitting there, the fact is that his big kill on the black people is the millions of people that he's allowed to come in through the border. They're taking black jobs now. And it could be 18, it could be 19, and even 20 million people. They're taking black jobs and they're taking Hispanic jobs. And you haven't seen it yet, but you're going to see something that's going to be the worst in our history.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Thank you. President Biden? There was no inflation when I became president. You know why? The economy was flat on its back. Fifty percent unemployment. He decimated the economy. Absolutely decimated the economy.
Starting point is 01:59:17 That's why there was no inflation at the time. There were no jobs. We provided thousands of millions of jobs for individuals who were in bald communities, including minority communities. We made sure that they have health insurance. We have covered, if the ACA has increased, I made sure that there are $8,000 per person in the family to get written off for the healthcare. But this guy wants to eliminate that.
Starting point is 01:59:40 They tried 50 times. He wants to get rid of the ACA again. And they're going to try again if they win. You find ourselves in a position where the idea that we're not doing any, I put more, we put more police on the street than any administration has. He wants to cut the cops. We're providing for equity, equity in making sure
Starting point is 01:59:59 people have a shot to make it. There's a lot going on, but in inflation, he caused it by his tremendous malfeasance in the way he handled the pandemic. Thank you. Another persistent challenge is the climate crisis. 2023 was the hottest year in recorded history, and communities across the country are confronting the devastating effects of extreme heat, intens wildfires stronger hurricanes and rising sea levels
Starting point is 02:00:28 Former President Trump you've vowed to end your opponents climate initiatives But will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis? Let me just go back to what he said about the police How close the police are to him almost every police group in the nation from every state is supporting Donald J. Trump. Almost every police group. And what he's done to the black population is horrible, including the fact that for 10 years he called them super predators. In the 1990s, we can't forget that.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Super predators was his name. And he called it to them. And they've taken great offense at it. And now they see it happening. But when they see what I did for criminal justice reform and for the historically black colleges and universities, where I funded them and got them all funded, and the Opportunity Zones with Tim, as you know,
Starting point is 02:01:20 Tim Scott was incredible. He did a great job. Great senator from South Carolina. He came to me with the idea, and it was a great idea. It's one of the most successful economic development acts ever in the country. Opportunity zones. And the biggest beneficiary are blacks.
Starting point is 02:01:35 And that's why we have the best numbers with them. And maybe ever, they're saying ever. I read this morning, wherever, the best numbers. He's lost much of the black population because he's done a horrible job for black people. He's also done a horrible job for Hispanics. But wait till you see these millions of people pouring into our country and they're going to take the jobs and it's already started and you haven't seen anything yet. It's a disaster.
Starting point is 02:02:01 You have 38 seconds left, President Trump. Will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis? So I want absolutely immaculate, clean water, and I want absolutely clean air. And we had it. We had H2O. We had the best numbers ever. And we did. We were using all forms of energy, all forms, everything. And yet, during my four years, I had the best environmental numbers ever.
Starting point is 02:02:31 And my top environmental people gave me that statistic just before I walked on the stage, actually. I don't know where the hell he's been. The idea, the day that he said is true. I passed the most extensive climate change legislation in history. We find ourselves, and by the way, black colleges, I came up with $15 billion for HBCUs, historic black universities and colleges, because they don't have the kind of contributors that they have to build these laboratories
Starting point is 02:03:05 and the like. Any black student is capable in college of doing what any white student can do. They just have the money, but now they'll be able to get those jobs in high tech. We're in a situation where the idea that he is claiming to have done something that had the cleanest water, the cleanest water, He hadn't done a damn thing with the environment. He pulled out of the Paris Peace Accord, Climate Accord, I immediately joined him because if we reach 1.5 degrees Celsius at any one point,
Starting point is 02:03:34 there's no way back. The only existential threat to humanity is climate change. And he didn't do a damn thing about it. He must undo all that I've done. The Paris Accord was gonna cost us a trillion dollars, and China nothing, and Russia nothing, and India nothing. It was a rip-off of the United States. And I ended it because I didn't wanna waste that money
Starting point is 02:03:56 because they treated us horribly. We were the only ones who was costing us money. Nobody else was paying into it. And it was a disaster. But everything that he said just now, I'll give you an example. I heard him say before, insulin. I'm the one that got the insulin down for the seniors.
Starting point is 02:04:10 I took care of the seniors. What he's doing is destroying all of our medical programs because the migrants coming in, they want everybody. And look, I have the biggest heart on the stage, I guarantee you that. And I wanna take care of people. But we're destroying our country. They're taking over our schools, our hospitals, and they're going to be taking over Social Security.
Starting point is 02:04:29 He is destroying Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. The idea is that we, in fact, we were the only ones of consequence. We're not, we're not members of the Paris Accord. How can we do anything? We've not had the United States can't get this under control. One of the largest polluters in the world, number one, we're making significant progress.
Starting point is 02:04:56 By 2035, we will have pollution in half. We have made significant progress and we're continuing to make progress. We set up a climate core for thousands of young people will learn how to deal with climate, just like the Peace Corps. And we're moving in directions that are gonna significantly change
Starting point is 02:05:14 the elements of cause of pollution. But the idea that he claims that he has the biggest heart up here and he's really concerned about pollution and about climate, I've not seen any indication of that. And by the way, with regard to prescription drugs, one company agreed that they would reduce the price to $35, which I was calling for, one, voluntarily.
Starting point is 02:05:39 I made sure every company in the world, every pharmaceutical company, cannot have to pay me. And by the way. Cut them off. So every day, millions of Americans struggle just to make ends meet. For many older Americans, Social Security provides a critical lifeline. President Biden, if nothing is done to Social Security,
Starting point is 02:05:58 seniors will see their benefits cut in just over 10 years. Will you name tonight one specific step that you're willing to take to keep Social Security solvent? Yes, make the very wealthy begin to pay their fair share. Right now, everybody making under $170,000 pays 6% of their income of their paycheck every single time they get a paycheck from the time the first one they get when they're 18 years old. The idea that they're going to, I'm not going to either proposing that everybody they pay, the millionaires pay 1%, 1%. So no one after, I would not raise the cost of social security for anybody under
Starting point is 02:06:37 $400,000 after that, I began to make the wealthy, began to pay their fair share by increasing from 1% beyond to be able to guarantee the program for life. So you still have 82 seconds left. Are there any other measures that you think that would be able to help keep Social Security solvent, or is that one enough? Well, that one enough will keep it solvent, but the biggest thing I'll do if we defeat this man
Starting point is 02:07:00 because he wants to get rid of Social Security. He thinks there's plenty to cut in Social Security. He's wanting to cut Social Security and Medicare both times. And if you look at the program put forward by the House Republican caucus that he supports, is in fact want to cut it as well. The idea that we don't need to protect our seniors is ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:07:23 And by the way, American public has greater healthcare coverage today than ever before. And on the ACA, as I said, you're in a circumstance where 400,000 people, I mean, 40 million people would not have insurance because they have a preexisting condition. Only allows them to have that insurance
Starting point is 02:07:42 is the fact that they in fact are part of the ACA. And by the way, the other thing is, we're in a situation where we talk about education for black communities. I've raised the number, the amount of money for Pell grants, another $8,000. So anybody making under $70,000 a year is going to be able to get $15,000 toward their tuition. It's, he just doesn't know what he's talking about. Thank you, President Biden.
Starting point is 02:08:07 President Trump. So I've dealt with politicians all my life. I've been on this side of the equation for the last eight years. I've never seen anybody lie like this guy. He lies. I've never seen that he can look you in the face. About so many other things, too. And we mentioned the laptop. We mentioned Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine,
Starting point is 02:08:28 Ukraine. Everything he does is a lie. It's misinformation and disinformation. The losers and suckers story that he made up is a total lie on the military. It's a disgrace. But Social Security, he's destroying it, because millions of people are pouring into our country
Starting point is 02:08:46 and they're putting them onto Social Security. They're putting them onto Medicare, Medicaid. They're putting them in our hospitals. They're taking the place of our citizens. What they're doing to the VA, to our veterans, is unbelievable. Our veterans are living in the street and these people are living in luxury hotels. He doesn't know what he's doing. And it's really coming back.
Starting point is 02:09:06 I've never seen such anger in our country before. President Biden? The idea that veterans are not being taken care of, I told you before. By the way, when I said suckers and losers, he said he acknowledged after that he fired that general. That general got fired because he's the one that acknowledged that that's what he said. He was the one standing with Trump when he said it. Number one. Number two, the idea that we're going to be in a situation
Starting point is 02:09:31 where all these millions and millions of way he talks about it, illegal aliens are coming into the country and taking away our jobs. There's a reason why we have the fastest growing economy in the world. The reason why we had the most successful economy in the world. The reason why we have the most successful economy in the world.
Starting point is 02:09:46 We're doing better than any other nation in the world. And by the way, those 15 Nobel laureates he talked about being phony, those 15 Nobel laureates, economists, they all said that if Trump is reelected, we're elected to have a recession and inflation is gonna increasingly go up. And by the way, worst president in history,
Starting point is 02:10:04 159 presidential scholars voted him the worst president in the history of the United States of America. President Biden, thank you so much. Let's turn to the cost of childcare, which many American families struggle to afford. President Trump, both you and President Biden have tried to address this issue, but the average cost of childcare in this country
Starting point is 02:10:22 has risen to more than $11,000 a year per child for many families. The cost of child care for two children is more than their rent. In your second term, what would you do to make child care more affordable? Just to go back, the general got fired because he was no good. And if he said that, that's why he made it up. But we have 19 people that said I didn't say it, and they're very highly respected, much more so than him. The other thing is, he doesn't fire people. He never fired people.
Starting point is 02:10:52 I've never seen him fire anybody. I did fire a lot. I fired Comey because he was no good. I fired a lot of the top people at the FBI, drained the swamp. They were no good. Not easy to fire people. You'd pay a price for it, but they were no good. I inherited these people. I didn't put them there. I didn't put Comey there. He was no good. Not easy to fire people. You'd pay a price for it. But they were no good. I inherited these people. I didn't put them. They didn't put Comey there. He was no good. I fired him. This guy hasn't fired anybody. He never fires. He should have fired every military man that was involved
Starting point is 02:11:14 with that Afghan, the Afghanistan horror show, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. He didn't fire. Did you fire anybody? Did you fire anybody that's on the border? That's allowed us to have the worst border in the history of the world? Did anybody get fired for allowing 18 million people, many from prisons, many from mental institutions? Did you fire anybody that allowed
Starting point is 02:11:38 our country to be destroyed? Joe, our country is being destroyed as you and I sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate. This shouldn't be a debate. He is the worst president. He just said it about me because I said it.
Starting point is 02:11:51 But look, he's the worst president in the history of our country. He's destroyed our country. Now all of a sudden he's trying to get a little tough on the border. He came out with a nothing deal and it reduced it a little bit, a little bit, like this much. It's insignificant. He wants open borders. He wants our country to either be destroyed or he wants to pick up those people as voters. And I don't think we just can't let it happen.
Starting point is 02:12:17 If he wins this election, our country doesn't have a chance, not even a chance, of coming out of this rut. We probably won't have a country left anymore. That's how bad it is. He is the worst in history by far. Thank you President Trump. President Biden? We are the most admired country in the world. We're the United States of America. There's nothing beyond our capacity. We have the finest military in the history of the world. The finest in the history of the world. No one thinks we're weak. No one wants to screw around with us.
Starting point is 02:12:47 Nobody. They think you're weak. Number one. Number two, the idea that we're talking about worst presidents. I wasn't joking. Look it up. Go online. 159 or 58, don't hold me to the exact number, presidential historians, they've had meetings
Starting point is 02:13:01 and they voted who's the worst president in American history. One best to worst. They said he was the worst in all of American history. That's a fact. That's not conjecture. He can argue the wrong, but that's what they voted. The idea that he is doing anything to deal with child care, he did very, for virtually nothing to child care.
Starting point is 02:13:23 We should significantly increase the child care tax credit. We should significantly increase the availability of women and men or single parents to be able to go back to work. And we should encourage businesses to hold to have child care affordable. President Trump, the question was about what would you do to make child care more affordable if you want to take your minute. Just so you understand, we have polling, we have other things that they rate them the I'm not going to be able to get you to the next level. I'm going to be able to get you to the next level.
Starting point is 02:13:48 I'm going to be able to get you to the next level. I'm going to be able to get you to the next level. I'm going to be able to get you to the next level. I'm going to be able to get you to the next level.
Starting point is 02:14:04 I'm going to be able to get you to the next level. ever created an economy like us, nobody ever cut taxes like us. He's the only one I know. He wants to raise your taxes by four times. He wants to raise everybody's taxes by four times. He wants the Trump tax cuts to expire so everybody, including the two of you, are going to pay four to five times. Nobody wants to do that. Yeah, because they're rich. All my life I'd grow up and I'd see politicians talking about cutting taxes.
Starting point is 02:14:23 When we cut taxes, as I said, we did more business. Apple and all these companies, they were bringing money back into our country. The worst president in history by far, and everybody knows it. President Biden? Look, the fact of the matter is that he's dead wrong about, he's increased the tar, he's increased, he will increase the taxes on middle class people. I said I'd never raise the tax on anybody making less than $400,000. I didn't.
Starting point is 02:14:50 But this tariff is 10% tariffs. Everything coming into the country, you know what the economists say? That's going to cost the average American $2,500 a year more because they're going to have to pay the difference in food and all the things that are very important. This is bad. Number two, he's in a situation where he talks about how he is not raised. This is bad. He's somehow helped the middle class.
Starting point is 02:15:13 This is all on purpose, 100%. The middle class have been devastated by you. Now you want a new tax cut of $5 trillion over the next 10 years, which is going to fundamentally bankrupt the country. You have the largest deficit of any President of American history, number one. Number two, you have not in fact made any contact, any progress with China. We are the lowest trade deficit with China since 2010. Thank you, President Biden.
Starting point is 02:15:40 Thank you, President Biden. Let's discuss an epidemic impacting millions of Americans, that both of you have made a top priority in your first term, the opioid crisis. And for both of you, the number of overdose deaths in this country has gone up. Under your term, it went up. Under your term, it has gone up. Former President Trump, despite the efforts that both of you have made, more than 100,000 Americans are dying from overdoses every year, primarily from fentanyl and other opioids.
Starting point is 02:16:08 What will you do to help Americans right now in the throes of addiction who are struggling to get the treatment they need? To finish up, we now have the largest deficit in the history of our country under this guy. We have the largest deficit with China. He gets paid by China. He's a Manchurian China. He gets paid by China. He's a Manchurian candidate. He gets money from China. So I think he's afraid to deal with them or something. But do you notice he never took out my tariffs because we bring in so much money with the
Starting point is 02:16:34 tariffs that I imposed on China. He never took them away. He can't because it's too much money. It's tremendous. And we saved our steel industries and there was more to come but he hasn't done that. But he hasn't cut the tariffs because he can't because it's too much money but he's got the largest deficit in the history of our country and he's got the worst the worst situation with China China is gonna own us if you keep allowing them to do what they're doing to us as a country they are killing us as a country Joe and you can't let that happen. You're destroying our country. So President Trump, you have 67 seconds left. The question was, what are you going to do
Starting point is 02:17:11 to help Americans in the throes of addiction right now who are struggling to get the treatment they need? Jake, we were doing very well at addiction until the COVID came along. We had the two and a half, almost three years of like nobody nobody's ever had before, any country, in every way. And then we had to get tough. And it was the drugs pouring across the border where it started to increase. We got great equipment.
Starting point is 02:17:34 We bought the certain dog that's the most incredible thing that you've ever seen, the way they can spot it. We did a lot. And we were getting very low numbers, very, very low numbers. Then he came along. The numbers, very, very low numbers. Then he came along. The numbers, have you seen the numbers now?
Starting point is 02:17:48 It's not only the 18 million people that I believe is even low because they got a ways. They don't even talk about got a ways. But the numbers of the amount of drugs and human trafficking in women coming across our border, the worst thing I've ever seen, at numbers that nobody's ever seen, under him, because the border's so bad, but the number of drugs coming across our border now is the largest we've ever had by far. President Trump, thank you. President Biden?
Starting point is 02:18:16 Fentanyl and the byproducts of fentanyl went down for a while. And I wanted to make sure we used the machinery that can detect fentanyl, these big machines that roll over everything that comes across the border. And it costs a lot of money. That was part of this deal we put together, this bipartisan deal. More fentanyl machines, more be able to detect drugs, more numbers of agents, more numbers of all the people at the border.
Starting point is 02:18:43 And when we had that deal done, he called his Republican colleagues and said, don't do it. It's going to hurt me politically. He never argued it's not a good bill. It's a really good bill. We need those machines. We need those machines. And we're coming down very hard in every country in Asia in terms of precursors for fentanyl.
Starting point is 02:19:02 And Mexico is working with us to make sure they don't have the technology to be able to put it together. That's what we have to do. We need those machines. Thank you, President Biden. Now, President Trump, and again, the question is about Americans and the throes of addiction right now
Starting point is 02:19:16 struggling to get the treatment they need. Well, this is because this does pertain to it. He ended Remain in Mexico. He ended Catch and Release. I made it Catch and Release in Mexico, not Catch and Release here. We had so many things that we had done, hard negotiations with Mexico,
Starting point is 02:19:31 and I got it all for nothing. It's just like when you have a hostage. We always pay $6 billion for a ho- every time we say there's a hostage. Now we have a hostage, a Wall Street Journal reporter. I think a good guy. And he's over there because Putin is laughing at this guy,
Starting point is 02:19:47 probably asking for billions of dollars for the reporter. I will have him out very quickly, as soon as I take office, before I take office. I said by literally, as soon as I win the election, I will have that reporter out. He should have had him out a long time ago, but Putin's probably asking for billions and billions of dollars because this guy pays it every time. We had two cases where he paid $6 billion for five people. I got 58 people out
Starting point is 02:20:14 and I paid essentially nothing. Thank you, President Trump. Dana? Let's turn to concerns that voters have about each of you. President Biden, you would be 86 at the end of your second term. How do you address concerns about your capability to handle the toughest job in the world well into your 80s? First of all, I spent half my career being criticized being the youngest person in politics. I was the second youngest person ever elected to the United States Senate. No, nobody.
Starting point is 02:20:47 And now I'm the oldest. This guy's three years younger and a lot less competent. I think that just look at the record, look at what I've done. Look, I've turned around the horrible situation he left me. As I said, 50 million new jobs, 800,000 manufacturing jobs, more investment in America, over millions, billions of dollars in private investment in enterprises that we are growing. By the way, we brought an awful lot of people, the whole idea of computer chips, we have 40% of the market, we invented those chips and we lost it because he was sending people to find the cheapest jobs overseas and then bring home a product. So I went to South Korea.
Starting point is 02:21:27 I convinced Samsung to invest billions of dollars here in the United States. And they're, guess what? Those fabs they call them, to build these chips, those fabs pay over $100,000. You don't need a college degree for them. And there's billions, about $40 billion already being invested and being built right now in the United States, creating significant jobs for Americans from all over the world. President Biden, you have 40 seconds left. Would you like to add anything?
Starting point is 02:21:56 Yeah, I would. The idea that somehow we are this failing country. I never heard a president talk like this before. We're the envy of the world. Name me a single major country president who wouldn't trade places with the United States of America for all our problems and all our opportunities. We're the most progressive country in the world in getting things done.
Starting point is 02:22:17 We're the strongest country in the world. We're a country in the world who keeps our word and everybody trusts us, all of our allies. And our, and our, and our, those who he coddles up to from Kim Jong-un, he sends love letters to Putin, etc. They don't want to screw around with us. Thank you. Former President Trump, to follow up, you would be 82 at the end of your second term.
Starting point is 02:22:41 What do you say to voters who have concerns about your capabilities to serve? Well, I took two tests, cognitive tests. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to answer that question because you're not going to be able to answer it. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will.
Starting point is 02:22:52 I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will.
Starting point is 02:23:00 I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. exams every year and you know we knock on wood wherever we may have wood that I'm in very good health I just won two club championships not even senior two club championships to do that you have to be quite smart and you have to be able to hit the ball a long way and I do it
Starting point is 02:23:16 he doesn't do it he can't hit a ball 50 yards he challenged me to a golf match he can't hit a ball 50 yards I think I'm in very good shape I feel that I'm as in good shape as I was 25, 30 years ago. Actually, I'm probably a little bit lighter, but I'm as good a shape as I was years ago. I feel very good. I feel the same. But I was willing to take a cognitive test. And you know what?
Starting point is 02:23:38 If I didn't do well, I aced him. Dr. Ronny Jackson, who's a great guy, when he was White House doctor. And then I took White House, and I was in the White House, and I was in the White House, and I was in the White House, and I was in the White House, and I was in the White House, and I was in the White House, and I was in the White House, and
Starting point is 02:23:54 I was in the White House, and I was in the White House, and I was in the White House, and I was in the White House, and I was in the White House, and I was in the White House, and I what you're... Anyway, just take a look at what he says he is and take a look at what he is. Look, I'd be happy to have a driving contest with him. I got my handicap, which when I was vice president, down to a six.
Starting point is 02:24:15 And, by the way, I told you before I'm happy to play golf, you can carry your own bag. Think you can do it? He's the sixth handicap of all. I was an eight handicapped. Now they're arguing about golf. Golf fight. I see your swing. I know your swing. Let's not act like children. To a specific concern that voters have about you.
Starting point is 02:24:38 Will you pledge tonight that once all legal challenges have been exhausted, that you will accept the challenges that you have I'm going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to
Starting point is 02:24:58 say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm not going to be the first to say that I'm of course I believe that. It's totally unacceptable. And if you would see my statements that I made on Twitter at the time, and also my statement that I made in the Rose Garden, you would say it's one of the strongest statements you've ever seen. In addition to the speech I made, in front of,
Starting point is 02:25:14 I believe, the largest crowd I've ever spoken to, and I will tell you, nobody ever talks about that. They talk about a relatively small number of people that went to the Capitol, and in many cases, were ushered in by the police. And as Nancy Pelosi said, it was her responsibility, not mine. She said that loud and clear. But the answer is, if the election is fair, free, and I want that more than anybody.
Starting point is 02:25:37 And I'll tell you something. I wish he was a great president because I wouldn't be here right now. I'd be at one of my many places enjoying myself. I wouldn't be under indictment because I wouldn't have been his political opponent because he indicted me because I was his opponent. I wish he was a great president. I would rather have that.
Starting point is 02:25:58 I wouldn't be here. I don't mind being here. But the only reason I'm here is he's so bad as a president that I'm gonna make America great again I'm going to make America great again. We're going to make America great again. We're a failing nation right now. We're a seriously failing nation. And we're a failing nation because of him.
Starting point is 02:26:13 His policies are so bad. His military policies are insane. They're insane. These are wars that will never end with him. He will drive us into World War III. And we're closer to World War III than anybody can imagine. We are very, very close to World War III. And he's driving us there.
Starting point is 02:26:33 And Kim Jong-un and President Xi of China, Kim Jong-un of North Korea, all of these are Putin. They don't respect him. They don't fear him. They have nothing going with this gentleman, and he's going to drive us into World War III. You want a World War III, let him follow and win and let Putin say, do what you want, NATO.
Starting point is 02:26:55 Just do what you want. There's a thing called Article 5. An attack on one is an attack on all, a required response. The idea, the idea. I can't think of a single major leader in the world who wouldn't trade places with what job I've done and what they've done. Because we are a powerful nation. We have wonderful people. It's because of the people, not me. It's because of the American people. They're capable of anything and they step up
Starting point is 02:27:19 when they're needed. And right now we're needed. We're needed to protect the world because our own safety is at stake. And again, you want to have a war, just let Putin go ahead and take Kiev, make sure they move on, see what happens in Poland, Hungary, and other places along that border. Then you have a war. President Trump, as I come back to you for a follow-up, the question was, will you accept the results of this election, regardless of who wins? I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question.
Starting point is 02:27:50 I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going knew not to do it. Not going to play games with me. He knew that.
Starting point is 02:28:05 I got along with him very well, but he knew not to play games. He took nothing from me. But now he's going to take the whole thing from this man right here. That's a war that should have never started. It would have never started ever with me. And he's going to take Ukraine. And you know, you asked me a question before, would you do this with... He's got us in such a bad position right now
Starting point is 02:28:27 with Ukraine and Russia. Because Ukraine's not winning that war. He said, I will never settle until such time. They're running out of people, they're running out of soldiers, they've lost so many people. It's so sad. They've lost so many people, and they've lost those gorgeous cities
Starting point is 02:28:43 with the golden domes that are a thousand years old all because of him and stupid decisions. Russia would have never attacked if I were president. President Trump, the question was, will you accept the results of the election regardless of who wins? Yes or no, please. If it's a fair and legal and good election, absolutely. I would have much rather accepted these, but the fraud and everything else was ridiculous. And if you want, we'll have a news conference on it in a week. Or
Starting point is 02:29:12 we'll have another one of these in a week. But I will absolutely, there's nothing I'd rather do. It would be much easier for me to do that than I'm running again. I wasn't really going to run until I saw the horrible job he did. He's destroying our country. I would be very happy to be someplace else, in a nice location someplace. And again, no indictments, no political opponents stuff, because it's the only way he thinks he can win. But unfortunately, it's driven up my numbers and driven them up to a very high level because
Starting point is 02:29:44 the people understand it. Let's see what your numbers are when this election is over. Let's see. Oh, wow. You're a whiner. When you lost the first time, you continued, you appealed and appealed to courts all across the country. Not one single court in America said any of your claims had any merit, state or local, none. But you continue
Starting point is 02:30:07 to provoke this lie about somehow there's all this misrepresentation, all this stealing. There is no evidence of that at all. And I tell you what, I doubt whether you'll accept it because you're such a whiner. The idea if you lose again, you accepted anything, you can't stand the loss. Something snapped in you and you lost the last time. We'll be right back with more from the CNN presidential debate, live from Georgia. Rob, how long is this debate? Is it an hour and a half or two hours?
Starting point is 02:30:37 I thought it was only an hour and a half. They're gonna keep you through, they wanna sell a little ad time, commercial time. All right. They're gonna come back and say, all right, Rapop. I want to ask you guys a question. I want to ask you guys a question. If I can get your attention, please. Can you go on Twitter real quick?
Starting point is 02:30:52 Let me tell you guys what's the weirdest thing I just wrote down here that I'm a little bit confused with, if you can please. So, a few things. Go back to how many of the debates we've done in the past, right? Especially with Trump. How often did moderators interrupt Trump every time? How often did moderators debate on behalf of his opponent every time? How often did moderators correct Trump on something he said? Every single time.
Starting point is 02:31:27 Why did tonight's moderators start off with inflation? Why did they start off with economy first? Well, that's the main pressure point. You should not be covering that first. Why has Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, why have they been so fair tonight? Why? Do you think they're sitting there like, yeah, you know, this is great. They're almost acting like they work for Fox News. They almost act like they're Republicans, like they're going to vote for Trump. So we know that's not the case. So what else could it be?
Starting point is 02:31:58 Is it the fact that they're embarrassed? Like they've already accepted the law, saying, I can't wait to get the hell out of here. Please hurry up, sell the effing ad time so I can get the hell out of here because this is simply embarrassing. Or maybe they know something we don't know. Maybe behind closed doors, this is what I would do. If you're my candidate and I want your people working for you, I want your campaign guys, I'm a heavyweight decision maker on the political party, I'd come right before, I'm like, where is he?
Starting point is 02:32:30 He's in the room. I want to talk to him privately. He's right there. Okay, let me go talk to him. Joe, how you doing? Joe, how you doing, Joe? Joe, how you feeling, Joe? No, no, no, hang on.
Starting point is 02:32:46 Because we know, I'm actually not trying to be funny. There's bosses of bosses. They're not going out and say, guys, it's done. Where's Gavin? Let me talk to him. Let's go to the back. Take him to the cigar lounge. I'm sitting there saying, all right, Plan B is here.
Starting point is 02:33:00 We're going to know within the first 30 seconds in 1986 Mike Tyson had his fastest knockout ever 30 seconds the guy name was Marvin Frazier Donald Trump broke that record from 1986 tonight it's over so if you and I as a competitor myself who is not oblivious to think that the opponent is gonna just sit there and say nah let him win this one. It's okay. They know what's going to happen if he gets in there. He's going to fire everybody.
Starting point is 02:33:31 The one point he made, who have you fired, Joe? How come you've never fired? What a point to make who have you not fired, right? So I think behind closed doors, if you're somebody that thinks the Democratic community, the establishment is super competitive, which I believe they're formidable opponents, there's no way in the world they're going to let Jake Tapper and Dana Bash sit there and act like they're Republicans. I've never seen anything like this before. There's something going on we don't know about behind closed doors, or they've simply thrown
Starting point is 02:34:01 in the towel, and I simply don't buy the fact that they've thrown in the towel. I just don't. By the way, that's the knockout, if you're wondering. Go ahead and play this. They're back for closing. The back of the base. Oh, yeah, they're back. Let's go back.
Starting point is 02:34:12 By a coin toss, we're gonna begin with you, President. What is this, the final poll? The final poll's up. Just wrapping up. Okay. They kept you through a commercial break, and they're wrapping up. We've made significant progress.
Starting point is 02:34:22 Here we go. From the debacle that was left by President Trump in last term. We find ourselves in a situation where number one, we have to make sure that we have a fairer tax system. I ask anyone out there in the audience, or anyone out watching this debate, do you think the tax system is fair? The fact is that I said nobody been making under $400,000 had a single penny increase in their taxes and will not and if I'm reelected that will be the case again. But this guy is has increased your taxes because of the deficit. Number one, he's increased inflation because of the block he left after where he handled the pandemic.
Starting point is 02:35:03 And he finds himself in a position where he now wants to tax you more by putting a 10% tariff on everything that comes into the United States of America. What I did, when for example, he wants to get rid of the ability of Medicare to, the ability for us to be able to negotiate drug prices with the big pharma companies. Well, guess what?
Starting point is 02:35:27 We got it down to $35 for insulin instead of $400. This is all on purpose. No more than $2,000 for every senior, no matter how much prescription they need. You know what that did? That reduced the federal debt by $160 billion over 10 years because the government doesn't have to pay the exorbitant prices. I'm going to make that available to every senior, all the long-term is happening now, and everybody in America.
Starting point is 02:35:57 He wants to get rid of that. We have, I'm going to make sure that we have childcare. We're going to significantly increase the credit people have for child care. I'm going to make sure we do something about what we're doing on lead pipes and all the things that are causing health problems for people across the country. We're going to continue to fight to bring down inflation and give people a break. Thank you, President Biden. President Trump, you now have two minutes for your closing statement. Like so many politicians, this man is just a complainer. He said, we want to do this, we want to do that, we want to get rid of this tax, that
Starting point is 02:36:30 tax. But he doesn't do anything. He doesn't do, all he does is make our country unsafe by allowing millions and millions of people to pour in. Our military doesn't respect him. We look like fools in Afghanistan. We didn't stop Israel. It was such a horrible thing that would have in Afghanistan. We didn't stop Israel. It was
Starting point is 02:36:45 such a horrible thing that would have never happened. It should have never happened. Iran was broke. Anybody that did business with Iran, including China, they couldn't do business with the United States. They all passed. Iran was broke. They had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah for terror. No money whatsoever. Again, Ukraine should have never happened. He talks about all the stuff, but he didn't do it. For three and a half years, we're living in hell. We have the Palestinians and we have everybody else rioting all over the place. You talk about Charlottesville. This is a hundred times Charlottesville, a thousand times. The whole country is exploding
Starting point is 02:37:18 because of you because they don't respect you and they have to respect their president and they don't respect you throughout the world. What we did was incredible. We rebuilt the military. We got the largest tax cut in history, the largest regulation cut in history. The reason he's got jobs is because I cut the regulations that gave jobs, but he's putting a lot of those regulations back on. All of the things that we've done, nobody's ever seen anything like, even from a medical
Starting point is 02:37:45 standpoint, right to try, where we can try space-age materials instead of going to Asia or going to Europe and trying to get, when you're terminally ill, now you can go and you can get something. You sign a document, they've been trying to get it for 42 years. But you know what we did for the military was incredible choice for our soldiers, where our soldiers, instead of waiting for three months to see a doctor, can go out and get themselves fixed up and readied up and take care of themselves and their living. And that's why I had the highest approval rating in the history of the VA.
Starting point is 02:38:17 So all of these things, we're in a failing nation, but it's not going to be failing anymore. We're going to make it great again. Thank you, former President Trump, President Biden. Stay with us because we have full analysis of this debate. Anderson Cooper and Aaron Burnett starts now on CNN. How much you want to make a bet that they're going to be interviewing Gavin Newsom right now?
Starting point is 02:38:41 How much you guys think? They don't have a choice. They have to. President Biden looked exceptional tonight. He looked like a caring man who loves his country versus a man who all he cares about is himself. That's the script. But guess what? You can't, listen, you can manipulate anybody for an hour. Yeah. Some for a day, some for a month, some for a year. You cannot manipulate majority of the people for three and a half years. And the voting base that you need
Starting point is 02:39:14 for them to vote for you, the ones independent, libertarian, right in the middle, what is the typical quality of an independent and a libertarian? Think about the profile of those who vote in the middle. Not the left, not the right. You got the angry patriots, right? And you got the leftists, LGBTQ, all this other stuff.
Starting point is 02:39:35 Both of them put them aside, right? What do libertarians and dependents have in common? What's the one thing they're capable of doing and why they're always going like this? Why do they always go like this? I'll tell you what it is. What are they willing to do? They have the ability to reason. That's it. That's the only thing. And they have to say, all right, let me, all right, I'll give this guy a chance. Let me think logically. So the libertarian and independent voter is one that doesn't want to be fooled. Right?
Starting point is 02:40:04 So they're kind of like, no, I'm not going to let this guy fool me because they've been fooled before, right? That audience that's watching tonight, they're like, what the f— what is going on tonight? Yes. No, you lost the most important people you needed to win over. Tonight wasn't about you winning Democrats over. Tonight wasn't about winning Republicans over. Tonight was a race of whether Trump or Biden is going to win the independents and libertarians over and Trump won them over
Starting point is 02:40:29 tonight. That's what you can say. Newsom can say whatever he wants to his base. He can say whatever he wants to his base. No one cares. The independents and the libertarians can think for themselves. You're not getting their vote. And Trump, let's be honest, Trump hasn't missed a step. He looks the same that he was seven years ago, same points, same this, same everything. And I'm... This is embarrassing.
Starting point is 02:40:53 But let me ask you a question though. Let's just say, PBD, I think this is exactly what we said, Adam, we had a hundred dollar bet. I wouldn't mind upping it because after seeing this, they're definitely gonna do the switch. Do you, how difficult do you think a debate with a snake like Gavin Newsom's gonna be? Trump has no history with him,
Starting point is 02:41:10 he can't blame him for everything. If Newsom steps up, PBD, how's that debate gonna go? Phenomenal. Like for Trump? No, it's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. It's paper, it's Conor McGregor against Khabib. It's it's it's it's Joe Frazier against Ali. It's you're talking about like Chicago Bulls
Starting point is 02:41:33 against the Pistons the year he beat him. It's the Lakers against the Bulls. It's the Yankees. I mean this is if that happens, if that happens, okay, if it happens, yes. who said Yanks? My man. Absolutely. But here's the thing. You can say snake all you want and you can use all of these things, totally get it.
Starting point is 02:41:56 Trust me, for those who want Trump to win, you want Biden to stay as the candidate. Oh, well, that's what I'm saying. I'm telling you. Yeah. You want to sit there and say, I thought he did a great job. Please. What a phenomenal job he did tonight.
Starting point is 02:42:12 Did you see how exceptional he was? Yeah. Wow, he seemed like such a noble, prolific debater. And did you notice his style? His style was to mumble, to be able to confuse his opponent, and he was gaslighting his opponent. And it's such a creative way, that's called genius. He's the greatest debate of all time. Like you gotta gaslight those people to say, keep this little f***er in there, you know
Starting point is 02:42:33 what I'm saying? Like one of those things. But listen, Obama is one of the most formidable guys in the space of politics, maybe ever, in our lifetime, is there. There is no way a brain like Obama, who's a strategist, who understands what's at stake, he knows this next time around Trump's coming for his last four years, it's gonna be very different than his first four years. Trump's last four years, he doesn't give a shit about getting reelected. See the first term you
Starting point is 02:43:18 have to play a little bit nice. So are we gonna do this? Because you'd be in jail and then you become president like okay we ain't doing that shit in the first term, we're gonna do it on the second because we got to get reelected, right? Then when you go into the second to me like I don't give a shit if you don't vote for me Because this is it for me. Guess what room do it all. Yeah, make sense That's it. It's done. So Let's say that's what he's gonna be doing Guess who's shivering right there saying, dude, whatever we do, we have to delay this
Starting point is 02:43:48 guy for four more years to not win because in four years Trump's going to be 82. He's done then. We can't let this guy into the White House because if there was Twitter files, what if he hires somebody that does the FBI files? What if he brings somebody that's going to be the CIA files? What if he brings somebody that's going to do the IRS files? What if you bring somebody that's going to be the CIA files? What if you bring somebody that's going to do the IRS files? What if he finds paper trail and emails in FBI and says, what if he doesn't? Guys, there's no way we can let this guy win. We got to
Starting point is 02:44:14 bring somebody else in. So unless Barack Obama, the Clintons, have nothing to hide and have nothing to fear, they have nothing to fear. They're gonna let this guy go and be the candidate. But if they did participate in any of this stuff and they fear that a guy like him that's gonna come in, that now he's got all these people that are backing him up, they can't let him in and they can't let this guy stay. This is at the inaugural, when he gave the speech at the inauguration, we did the podcast. I was like, this guy actually did a great job.
Starting point is 02:44:51 Yeah, the state of the union. I'm not, not in our state of the union. It was like how many months ago? Six months ago, eight months ago. We were like, it's actually pretty good. He's like boom. And he was debating with the Republicans when they were like, oh really? But why did you do this? And why did you do that? You're like, oh shit, he actually looks, he actually looked... Coherent in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:45:12 No, bro, this is, you can't mark it. Ari Emanuel, who is maybe the greatest manager, representative agent in the history of Hollywood who could turn a regular guy and sell him as if this guy's gonna be the next big Tom Cruise. Even R.E. Manuel if he chose to be this guy's agent he couldn't even help this guy become a mayor of a small town today. I agree. That's how bad he looked today. Yeah, when he did the State of the Union, the headlines and the tabloids and every single website, every single news outlet was, you know, the old man still got a little fight in him. You know, here we go. He's back kind of a thing. Tonight, it's gonna be very interesting to see
Starting point is 02:45:56 what all the headlines and all the news outlets come out with because there's no way to spin this performance. You were talking about sports and the Bulls and the Yankees and all that. I'll give you a sports analogy. This was a blowout of epic proportion. And it started in the first quarter. If you want to just do a football analogy, dude, by the end of the first quarter, it was 28-zip, okay? By halftime, he snuck in a little.
Starting point is 02:46:19 And you're a convicted criminal. It's 35-3 at halftime. And by the way, if you're a football fan, 35-3 at halftime. And by the way, if you're a football fan, 35-3 at halftime, there's no pep talk in the locker room to get you back from that. By the time that they come out on the field after the third quarter, Trump's still
Starting point is 02:46:34 just throwing the ball around, you know, he's connecting. Biden's just fumbled, turnover, pick six, bingo, bingo. By the end of the game, they're just dancing in the end zone. Final score, 72 to three. It's an embarrassment and it's not even close. And you're talking to somebody who voted for Biden, who actually beat Trump in the debates in four years ago. Trump literally had covid during the debates.
Starting point is 02:46:56 If you remember that one, this like it just as it is, just as look from a I said China. Thank you. It was covid. Forget about who you like. Forget about your like. Just look at this... I said China. Thank you. Because it was COVID. Forget about who you like, forget about who you like, just look at this complete unbiased. This was an embarrassing tragic performance by Joe Biden. Here's where we go from here, by the way.
Starting point is 02:47:15 The RNC is I think mid July, July 15th in Milwaukee. The DNC is mid August in Chicago. And the next debate, here's what actually we have to pay attention to. The next debate is mid September, I think it's September 10th, the day before 9-11. The question will be, will Joe Biden be debated
Starting point is 02:47:42 on the debate stage? Based on this performance, I wouldn't elect Joe Biden dog catcher to do anything at this point. But would you... This was horrible. No, no, what he's telling you is he switched his position. You know, I switched it, but I'm saying, you made a... Didn't you make a bet with Tom?
Starting point is 02:47:54 He did make a bet with Tom, yeah. But every... Vinny, understand something. This is a monumental moment in American history. I agree with that. Our sitting president showed up at the Super Bowl that the playoffs just happened there was show the day before he showed up at the Super Bowl and laid a goose egg this is embarrassing on epic proportions yes
Starting point is 02:48:17 everything changed yes change your position everybody you know the the same people are running the asylum. Get out while you can. And PPD, one of the best, and you guys remember, one of the best things I think, because I wrote it down, what Trump said, he said, which I think just came out of nowhere, he said, I wish Biden was a great president.
Starting point is 02:48:36 He goes, I wouldn't be here. I don't want to be here. Powerful. Oh my God, he said, I have to be here because of how bad he did it. And I'm just, it makes me happy that, like, you talk about those people in the middle, there's no question right now. If you're just floating in the middle and you don't know where to go and you have questions
Starting point is 02:48:54 on why the country has gone to shit, you just saw it firsthand, that's the guy that's running the country. Absolutely. By the way, see this headline? Do you see what Drudge is? Was it? Operation Replaced by the Democrats Scrambled with 130 Degrees. Absolutely. By the way, see this headline? You see what Drudge is? Operation Replaced Biden. Watch Democrats scramble with 130 days to go. See what CNN has to say. See what CNBC, see what MSC, see?
Starting point is 02:49:12 Rob, see if you can see every single website. Rob had something else. Pat, you put something in the chat, right? By the way, Border Patrol, to be clear, we have never, we never have and never will endorse Biden. Border Patrol Union. By the way, that's a union. That's embarrassing. Who do unions typically vote for?
Starting point is 02:49:39 Left. Democrat. That's the Border Control Union saying, nah, I'm good. Guys, this next 130 days is about to get now. What you've been saying this to get ready for this year. It's going to be this guys as of tonight, Mark tonight. Now it's now it's going full force. There's no way they're going to ride in with Biden.
Starting point is 02:49:58 That's it's over. Next. Here's MSNBC left. Biden stumbles Trump caveats election results question. Of course they're going to say you can accept the results. He said yes if it's fair and free election. Fair and legal. Yeah. But at least they're acknowledging the fact that Biden stumbled. Stumbled is a nice way to put what he did tonight. He stumbled, bumbled, fumbled and just fell across. It was a butt fumble, if you remember that thing, from Mark Sanchez. Horrible. So there goes everybody that would question people like us
Starting point is 02:50:30 that we would say, he's not running the country. When he says they, the they are scrambling right now behind the curtains. You know, he said, he said, raise taxes, right? He says he wants you to believe, he wants to raise taxes on all of you, including the two of you. Oh yeah, demand.
Starting point is 02:50:48 And then he says he's going to let the Trump tax cuts expire, right? And then when he talked about the golf game, the sense of humor is like, Oh my God. Yeah, I'm a six handicap. Oh yeah, I've seen your swing, you're a six handicap.
Starting point is 02:51:03 Can't look at the odds. And then, but one of the things that I pulled up here, and Rob, I wanna send this to you, I want you to show this, and I know you guys are gonna think what a weird article to pull up, is, okay, you ready? I wanna send this to you.
Starting point is 02:51:22 Rob, can you pull up, can you just go up and look up the early signs of dementia? You know the saying when they say, you know when they say, what did you say, Adam? You said when age and then it's a sudden decline, right? Yeah, you're fine, everything's okay, and then there's just one slip and boom. You hear this saying when there's a sudden decline. And you're like, yeah, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 02:51:48 I mean, you see them baseball players sometimes, all of a sudden it's like, bam! 307 batting average, 313, 328, 298, 317, 262. What the hell happened? A sudden decline. So memory problems. Look at the second one. Confusion.
Starting point is 02:52:07 He looked confused half the time. Getting confused about time and place and losing your way. Difficulty concentrating. Changes in behavior or personality. Trouble with daily tasks. He had a basic task today to go through. So a part of it here is we can disagree with Obama on policies. We can disagree with Bush on policies.
Starting point is 02:52:30 You can disagree with Clinton on policies. You can disagree with senior, with Reagan, with Carter, with Trump. But let me tell you, there's no way this is a good look for America as a country. Correct. Correct. There's no way like, you know, for the people in America who love America, who are not necessarily left and right, who are very trusted and people actually listen to what they have to say, those people need to have some conversations with everybody
Starting point is 02:53:05 else and say, listen, this is a, if I'm the enemy right now, if my name is Putin, Xi, or you know, who is it right now? Kim Jong-un. Whoever it is, even the guy that replaced Raisi, if I'm any of those guys right now, if you've ever had a chance to capitalize off a weak nation, you got 130 days. Go at it. If you've ever had an opportunity to get what you want now, you know what it's like? It's like this. This is a Louis Vuitton store, okay? You find out the boss and the employees are at lunch for the next hour Nobody's at the shop. They're opening it up till 10 o'clock
Starting point is 02:53:50 The shop is wide open back door. You know, the door is open. It's 9 o'clock in the morning. You have one hour No one's in there go take everything you can This is a way of telling the enemy everything you can. This is a way of telling the enemy, guess what, China, Russia, Iran, whoever else that doesn't like the greatest country in the world and they despise it, you got 130 days. This is your opportunity. Come on, Louis Vuitton, throw a bunch of purses out there for you because this guy's not putting fear into anybody. What do you say? He says, how is it the basic, like the way Trump explains it in sixth grade, or my son here was in sixth grade going into seventh, he says, okay, there's
Starting point is 02:54:32 an ocean, ocean between us and Europe. So you mean to tell me the European countries who are directly affected by what Russia is going to do to Ukraine, they only give $100 billion and we give $200 billion? Why don't you tell them to pay more? Why don't you at least look at them and say pay more? Anybody can understand what the hell he's saying. That is very basic stuff. Why don't you say more? At least I got you to start spending a little bit more money because the NATO thing that
Starting point is 02:54:58 came up, how come you didn't do that? How come you haven't fired anybody? How come you haven't fired a guy that's doing the border? You think he's doing a good job? What do you think about the guy? So this guy's saying, yes, I fire a lot of people. That's what I do if you don't do the job. How come you haven't fired anybody?
Starting point is 02:55:12 Why haven't you fired anybody? Every one of these arguments, the way he makes, it is so simple that the average person can just sit there and say, I don't have to like him, but I get what he's saying, whether you're left or right. So my only concern is I hope this 130 days comes as fast as possible to get somebody else in there because even if they bench him, the person behind him scares me even more than he does. So neither one of them scare anybody. But anyways, there's two sides to me, guys, that I always, and I'm going to wrap this
Starting point is 02:55:42 up because it's 11 o'clock. There's two sides to me, guys, that I always, and I'm gonna wrap this up because it's 11 o'clock, there's two sides that I always have. One side is the overly optimistic guy. We're gonna take over the world. Oh, we're gonna do this. Oh, we're gonna, the future looks bright, baby. Everything is great. And this always is 51%.
Starting point is 02:55:59 It's always a little bit more than this side. But this side is only the paranoid survive. Most Republicans, including Trump, are going to go home tonight and do what? High five. Oh my God! Blah, blah, blah, blah. We crushed it. Pump the brakes. Pump the brakes. You know? It's like guys that close their first $10,000 commission check, they're in the car celebrating, and then they don't know right behind them is New York Life or another company coming in to take that commission away from you, and you're already high-fiving.
Starting point is 02:56:32 Nothing is done until they've done their blood work, until they've done EKG, until you've filled out the paperwork, until you've delivered the policy, until you've explained what the policy is, none of that stuff is done. We still have a lot of work to do. And for me, double down on security, because you know what today did? Here's what tonight did. Tonight increased the chances of people believing he's going to win now. And tonight looked like it's not him winning slightly.
Starting point is 02:56:55 This could be a 40, 43, 45 state type of a situation where it's absolutely embarrassing. This is Reagan Carter type of embarrassing moment. At least Carter could speak. At least Carter was a nice guy. At least Carter was an honest man. At least Carter was a smart guy. He was a terrible president. But today, this is this is this is so embarrassing that the people on your side politically that are gonna vote for you are not even willing to come out to vote for you. They're not gonna vote for Trump. But tonight people are not even willing to come out to vote for you. They're not going to vote for Trump, but tonight people are not even willing to come out because they're embarrassed because they don't believe you're even going to win.
Starting point is 02:57:31 So if that happens, so future looks bright, only the paranoid survive. And my only message to everybody is, let's do both. More here than this, but let's stay paranoid. 130 more days left. God is in charge at the end of the day. Had a great time with everybody here tonight. What is this Rob? This is, oh you're completely throwing me off.
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Starting point is 02:58:13 Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And there's.

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