PBD Podcast - Trump vs Canada, Iran Hit with New Sanctions & Florida Cracks Down on SNAP | PBD Podcast #850
Episode Date: August 28, 2026Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team break down three power plays with global consequences. Trump escalates tensions with Canada by proposing a new name for Lake Ontario, Iranian state media releases a... disturbing video targeting Barron Trump, and Meta faces an $18 billion reckoning over allegations that it failed to protect children.🎟️ SECURE YOUR 2026 VAULT TICKETS: https://bit.ly/4xU2SCW👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpwⓂ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVksoⓂ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbdSUBSCRIBE TO:@VALUETAINMENT: https://youtube.com/@VALUETAINMENT@ValuetainmentComedy: https://youtube.com/@ValuetainmentComedyABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of two boys and two girls. He currently resides in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
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Did you ever think you would make it?
I feel I'm supposed to take sweet with the story.
I know this life meant for me.
Adam, what's your point?
The future looks bright.
My handshake is better than anything I ever sides.
Right here.
You are a one of one?
My son's right.
I think I've ever said this before.
I'll get you mad at my friend.
Like that's what's going to happen?
What do you?
Listen, I say this all the time.
out of all the best characters in comedy movies.
What he did in that is my top five.
And I'm telling you all to, and I watch comedy.
That character, he is in the top five of the funniest characters.
I would go back and watch it again.
And again, and again, it's that funny.
Anyway, great to have you on.
Great to have you on.
It's great to have you here.
I miss you guys.
Yeah, you know, by the way, Brian was here at 7.
30 in the morning.
We were all showing up late.
He came and said, guys, where is everybody?
And we're like, our, Brian's here.
I had to get a workout.
We got, you know, we're ready to go.
We got a lot of stories to cover with you guys today.
There's a story about dad brain.
Have you heard about this dad brain concept?
We're going to talk about this dad brain concept.
It's an interesting story that I think you're going to appreciate.
It says what happens to men when they become dads.
There's a few things that happen to us when we become dads.
Last night, we're having dinner with a friend doctor of ours.
And, you know, Tom starts telling us.
The doctor's like, look, can you find a nurse for Vinny?
And then he says, look, you have to know you got looks or you get a doctor.
You don't get both.
Most doctors are not attractive.
I settle for a nurse.
You know a pretty nurse send us this way.
By the way, I'm going to do an exercise.
Stay tuned.
Of anybody you know, because I now know Vinny's clear qualification for what he wants
and a wife, we're going to create a site, add them in there.
And then we'll maybe, listen, maybe you're going to be the person that's going to help
Vinny find his wife and then we'll figure this out.
But I finally figured out what he wants and what he's not into.
The one criterion, I don't know why you said this, I never understood it to it,
but I've never asked it because I don't want to insult you.
It's privacy.
He said, no Somalians.
I don't know what that means.
That was the only thing he said he's not into.
No Somalis.
No Somalis.
No Somalis.
It's not that bad.
They run a good day care centers.
Very good day.
Few stories.
Few stories.
Number one, Iranian sanctions, Iranian sanctions Operation Economic Outcast,
trying to destroy Iran economically.
Rubio said strikes over sanctions.
And the way they're doing it, it's very interesting because Turkey and Pakistan
that are tied to the sanctions just did a new trade deal with Iran.
So the timing's kind of weird.
And I think they're only going after you're like three or four different countries.
They want to suffocate Iran in ways they've never done it.
Cali came out today.
And you guys remember this good-looking guy who was very, you know, Vinny does it really good
when he goes like this, you know, this Newsome guy.
he was first on Cali
he's officially not even second
AOSOF and AOCR now
ahead of him on Cali
Newsom is down to 13%
this is what happens
when you have no clue what you stand for
it's not even the awe
you know what it is
what the hell do you stand for
one minute you're socialist one minute you're this
just say what you're stand for
and go make your arguments
and then Dolly Parton and Jelly Roll
will get into that obviously
may she rest in peace she was an absolute
legend certain people you can use the word
legend and it's qualified legend.
Dolly was a legend.
This past week, Jelly Roll stepped in for Jimmy Campbell.
There was a lot of people that were not happy about some of the jokes.
I thought a couple of the jokes were funny,
but I think something he did on the second day was he probably didn't need to do it.
Why do that?
I mean, why lose that audience?
We'll talk about that.
I'm curious how you guys feel about this.
Trump posts a tweet yesterday as the greatest president of all time.
Did you see this one or no?
And then great and then average and then below average.
And he added a category, but people don't know the story behind it.
We will talk about what the story behind it is.
But again, he's trying to piss a lot of people off.
I got a clip talking about Outcast.
Outcast Andre 3,000, which to me, he's in my top five.
I mean, I can tell you I listen to Outcast's album over and over and over thousands of times.
In a podcast, he explains why men above 45 shouldn't rap.
And the way he breaks it down, have you seen this?
I haven't seen it.
The funniest thing he says, I just want to raw.
I want to see how you're going to react to it.
It's hilarious.
And then we've got a couple other stories here.
We've got to get into Florida.
You guys ready for this?
Very weird.
Very weird.
So they say, hey, snap all of a sudden cuts back that you can't order soda and all this other stuff.
They're changing.
Story comes out yesterday that apparently soda sales is down 12 to 13 percent because of snap.
Wait, snap.
What is snap?
So snap was like the family stamps that there's down.
The ATM cards for food.
So now soda's been impacted because of the changes that you can't just go by anything.
By the way, in Florida, check this out.
Florida's the first state.
This is a little bit of a weird story.
I kept asking, Connor, are you sure this is a real story?
Watch this.
Florida's the first state to prevent folks who get welfare, to use that welfare cash to get tattoos,
vapes, video games, and porn.
Not a terrible idea.
Right?
I mean, am I being...
Radical.
If I'm giving you money, if I'm giving my kid money,
saying don't spend this on porn and video games.
Yeah, I mean, listen, it's a tab.
But think about it's taxpayer money.
Yeah, go get a tattoo viny on taxpayer.
Why not?
Go smoke some, you know, vaping,
and go get some video games and watch some porn on the house
because tax bears...
Just to lower your stress level that you have.
Lindsay Clancy, there's a story of a man that says,
listen, he called off the wedding because the wife was like,
it's not her fault.
So the guy's like, wait, what?
Yeah, you want to have kids with that?
You want me to have kids with you?
I'm calling off the wedding, so it was like the runaway bride,
except it wasn't, what was the girl's name?
Julia Roberts is Ronnie Roberts.
It's a man that's running away.
Hassan Piker came and said something,
which I don't even know if it's a good thing to say,
but it's good for the world to hear.
He said he loves the fact that everything,
what's this character,
Braggs El Saida's faking moderation to scam voters.
He said that.
So I lead a little bit of honesty from,
Sam Piker to say something like that.
Really honest.
Maybe we'll react to that. Jesse Waters talked to, what's his name?
I'll say.
Good looking guys.
A very well-spoken guy.
Football player.
Football player.
Yeah, he's got, you know, he's talking.
And he asked Jesse if he's circumcised.
And Jesse's reaction is like, bro, why are you asking me this private question?
But it's a, we have to play the clip.
I'm curious to know what you guys think.
Canadian tariffs.
So just so you guys know, Tom's, if you notice Tom's a little bit off today and
little bit upset. Just so you know, this is, Tom's been furious with this whole Canadian
tariffs. You know, now Canada's coming back and they're saying they're not going to provide
some electricity and that's their threat Carney and, you know, this guy Ford who's playing
tough guy and yesterday. Like, you know how we have PBS and NPR? They have CBC. You know what
they said yesterday on CBC? Do you hear about this? I think one of them said, kiss my ass.
No, on CBC yesterday, they said we can no longer say that 9-11 was a terrorist attack.
Yesterday under national TV.
That's taxpayer-funded.
It said 9-11 was not a terrorist attack.
What?
Yes, I'll show you the clip.
Mark Cuban says we need to give more equity to employees and companies, which we agree in.
But he says, if you don't do it, we should tax them higher, which that's the conversation.
Josh Shapiro said something to RFK about measles and Vinny lost this shit, so we got to react to that.
And then maybe we'll get into a couple other stories that we'll get into.
But, you know, the good news today is we can go.
for quite some time, so we're going to cover a lot of different stories.
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All right. Having said that, let's get right into it.
The first story I want to start off with,
I kind of like when we're doing.
doing things that's getting people to be healthier.
I like that.
So there's a story that comes out yesterday talking about SNAP.
And we know what SNAP stands for.
Tom, can you tell the rest of us what SNAP stands for?
Snap is Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program,
and it's an EBT card that the government gives to people who are on welfare,
and the government refills it,
and then they can take it into the grocery store and use it.
Yeah.
And so we, taxpayers, provide that opportunity.
for folks who are going through challenging times.
And of course, there's a lot of abuse with it.
There's a lot of money that's spending.
And at the same time, some people said RFK is like,
why don't we not allow people to use SNAP to buy stuff that's not good for them?
And so some business owners that make a lot of money off SNAP, school,
you know, going out there, buying Coke, buying soda, they're like, wait, this is not a good idea.
And why are they saying it's not a good idea?
Well, then the numbers finally came out.
Check this out.
This is a zero hedge article.
They do a great job.
there's soda purchases slumped 13% after SNAP sugary drink restriction.
Soda purchase fell 13%.
After 10 states, restricted sugary drink purchases with SNAP funds in 2026,
per an August National Bureau of Economic Research Study,
not yet peer reviewed, covering about 5,000 snap holders before demand,
the average SNAP household bought about 185 ounces of soda a month,
roughly 15 cans.
the 13% drop equals two fewer cans, notably household with enough cash to bypass the restriction,
still cut soda consumption, 18.5%. When states labeled soda unapproved, it acted as a powerful psychological
signal instead of bypassing the ban with cash. Families reconsidered their habits. The sugar impact
is unclear, but a 2024 study forecast up to 20% of soda decline, but a 7% juice increase,
meaning just a 7% overall cut in the beverage.
Intake SNAP distributed $102.6 billion to 42 million families in fiscal 2025.
As of August 23 states have restriction waivers, the first time the USDA has ever granted them.
This is massive because now we're seeing the direct impact to businesses just based on 10 states.
Imagine this goes to 50 states.
Tom, why is this story so important?
This is important because there is a direct correlation between obesity,
and excess sugar intake, and the sodas are part of that.
So if we're providing SNAP to people who are unfortunately, you know,
in a welfare situation, and you want to help them go in to get, you know, food, fruits,
vegetables and things, you don't want them loading up on soda because it leads directly to diabetes.
It leads directly now to Medicaid costs for insulin.
This is the beginning of where it goes.
And you know what?
companies have
lobbyists, big, big
lobbyists. And they work Washington
Pat, and they work the states to
get their food onto
the SNAP program. Into schools, too,
by the way. And to get this, thank you
very much, correct? They'll give you a big fist bump
there. Oh, see how I do.
It's called seasoning. It's called seasoning.
I give a little seasoning. No, no, no, yeah.
From the husband here of a school teacher
who hates the fact that you can see
Coke machines in schools, because kids will have
a sugar crash right after
lunch and you're trying to teach them.
This is good, Pat. This is
good because it aims toward they're only buying
nutritious stuff and it got to get
in front of big food.
There's also big pharma. There's also
big food and they're out there
trying to get things on to snap.
Candy bars, sodas and all that should
not be. What do you think about that? Same thing.
Look, you've got Oreo that has
the deep fried Oreo just in case
you missed. If the Oreo's
not enough, let's deep fry it.
Now they're coming up with the Oreo
KFC and Oreo did a collab.
I don't know if it's very exciting.
You can eat an Oreo that tastes like an Oreo
and taste like a piece of KFC chicken.
Look at that.
But there's no chicken meat in the cookie.
Is this a joke?
No, this is absolutely...
Listen, I had to look it up.
Are you serious?
I had to look it up, Bob.
This is not a meme.
No, this is not a joke.
This is where the pharmaceutical companies say,
they come and they go, look, we're losing...
Look, we're making a fortune on GLP drugs,
but people aren't as diabetic.
We've got to bring that back up
so we can make some money.
It's all connected.
I'm not saying, but they probably went.
Is GOP profitable?
Do you think?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So do you think maybe some GOP
profits are going to lobbyists
who are actually lobbying for the food side?
I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying when you start losing money on your diabetic,
on your diabetes medication,
maybe you go to the food company and say,
can you come up with something even more addictive and more delicious?
Can you run a poll?
And then the insulin companies are like,
give me one second.
Can you run a poll in the back and ask people how many sodas they drink
per month.
How many sodas they drink per month?
Just ask zero, put one to five,
five to ten, ten plus.
Let's run a poll and see how much people drink
because I'm curious to know.
By the way, just to kind of give you guys some numbers on
what states are already implementing this.
Nebraska started the first of this year.
Soda and energy drinks, first ever waiver
and energy drinks that you can.
Number two. Indiana started January 1st,
soft drinks and candy.
Utah de January for soft drinks only
West Virginia soda and soft drinks
Idaho soda and candy
Oklahoma soft drinks and candy
Louisiana soft drinks energy drinks and candy
Texas sweetened drinks and candy
Florida soda energy drinks candy
and prepared dessert
Arkansas soda drinks under 50% juice
energy unhealthy drinks and candy
These are the states that are coming up
from August 31st and on
South Dakota North Dakota Montana Ohio Virginia
Wyoming Kansas
Missouri and Hawaii are all planning on implementing this plan.
And the only brightly state is Hawaii.
But to your point, too, these are strong lobbies.
And people are going to lose money.
But, you know, this is a very interesting thing.
This is where you say to yourself, this is the one thing government is doing well.
There's not a lot of programs.
But the part is this, like when I was in the military,
I got into a debate with one of my friends 20 years ago, DeVine,
when I was in the military, they would say,
If you're social, the last four, your social starts with the number four, step up.
All right, what are we doing?
Go ahead.
We're going to do a drug test.
And we would go do a drug test.
A guy's watching you.
Boom.
Hey, Jackson, you're smoking weed?
Boom.
Hey, Jones, come up.
You got an article, whatever, article 15.
You're going to be working chow hall or whatever for two weeks.
All right.
So then I asked the guy, my friend, I said, hey, if they give you tax-funded money, snap, welfare,
shouldn't the government be able to drug test you at any time?
No, I think that's unfair.
that's too much privacy.
You're taking people's money.
Yep.
What do you talk to?
So I actually love this policy.
And mind you, just so people understand,
because again, getting in the way of Americans
when they're already used to something,
each soda can of Coca-Cola is 39 grams of sugar,
which is almost 10 teaspoons.
And it did that number on purpose.
They would have gone to the fore.
And sodium, by the way.
And sodium.
And if you think about, guys,
snap food stamps in the United States,
just snap time.
I'm not talking about all the other programs.
It's $100 billion.
And every time, and you nailed, bro,
you're getting in the way of all.
these big companies, bro.
Soto wants a piece of that.
Oh, 100%.
And by the, and that's why RFK, bro, RFK.
And Snickers. And I told him, I know we're going to get
to another story later on with Shapiro.
RFK, to me, is the MVP.
Just silent, bro, switch sides, went from the
Democrats or Republicans, and he's just been
low-key, helping Americans that
are too crazy to be like, no, leave us alone.
We want our sugar. He's trying to, like, what was
it? The food dies and additives,
the chronic disease, the real food reformed,
all the vaccine stuff. This guy's just
kicking butt quietly, quietly,
just all these home runs and nobody's really paying attention to what he's doing.
If you want to talk about actually making an impact that's not sexy, but diabetes, insulin
resistance, that's the real killer of Americans.
It's not terrorism. It's not your food dies.
It's to borrow somebody who said that's like rearranging the furniture on the deck of the Titanic.
The real threat is insulin resistance.
People eat way too much sugar.
And oh, by the way, when I say people, let's actually say what it is.
It's kids.
Kids get hooked on soda.
So if you want to give your kid three, four, five coaks a day
and give a metabolic disease,
which is happening and has been happening for the past, what, 30 years?
By the way, check this out.
So it's July of 2019.
I'm at Breakers hosting a meeting.
We're watching some documentary together.
And Ian, my CFO, I ask him,
because he's a runner, he runs 450 miles time at 46 years old.
At 46?
He's running a 450 miles.
Ian was a fricking stunt.
But he was a stuff.
Like this guy was a CFO of Andy Bill.
The guy's a legit stud.
I hope he sees this.
We love you.
And you're phenomenal, Benedict.
And, you know, he says, I said, so what's your diet?
He says, I don't drink soda.
I haven't had it for seven years.
I said, you're, stop it.
I said nothing.
He says nothing.
While he's doing that, my assistant brings me to Coke zeros because that's what I would drink.
I would drink three Coke zeros a day.
I said, you know what?
I'm going to try to see if I can go seven days without Coke zero.
The last time I had soda was July of 2019 until today.
The last time.
simplest thing to cut. It's not something complicated. The simplest thing to cut, and you all of a sudden
see three inches gone here, two inches gone here with a simple thing like that. I actually love this
program. Adam, do you have any final thoughts on this? I like the Florida story. Did we get into that?
You want me to get into that? Let me read the Florida story. Okay. Let's go to the Florida story.
So now this snap thing, which to us, folks, as a taxpayer, you ought to be protective of where your
money goes to. We're paying taxes for the services we should see. Watch this one. The great state of
Florida becomes the first state to block welfare cash to be used for what? Tattoos,
vape, and porn.
It's incredible.
What?
That's outrageous.
People currently use welfare cash for porn.
I have no idea about it.
Dude, I had no idea.
When I saw this story, I'm like, tattoos?
Tattoos, this has to be a fake story.
So Florida is, by the way, this is Fox News reading this article.
Florida becomes the first state to impose sweeping limits on.
welfare cash block and EBT cash assistance from buying tattoos,
theme park tickets, video games, vaping products, pornography,
and even psychic and fortune-telling services.
The Trump administration is urging other states to follow HHS,
deemed Florida's TANF plan complete Thursday,
praising common sense restriction, taxpayer-funded assistance
should help families put food on the table,
keep the lights on, purchase clothing,
provide their children and overcome barriers on the path towards independence,
says DeSantis.
ACF assistant secretary Alex J. Adams,
stress benefits are not cut.
No one loses any of their benefits.
If an individual or family is going to come to the government
to cover their basic needs,
it is the government's expectation that they can be used
for those basic needs.
The average household gets roughly $250 a month.
Florida's Healthy SNAP initiative already barred soda,
energy drinks and candy from food benefits in April.
Adam thought.
Yeah, like the soda is just a small part of,
hey, stop using this money on things that aren't basics.
So to me, soda is like under these other things.
Tattoos, vapes, porn.
I mean, you could be buying drugs on this type of stuff.
To me, it's ridiculous.
But here's my biggest takeaway.
The government assistance is not like your daddy's allowance.
It's not like, here's money. Do whatever you want.
There's restrictions with this.
Like, I don't know if any of you guys have ever been on welfare or snap,
but my first job out of college, I was laid off after my first year.
They gave me unemployment and they gave me food stamps.
Snap.
Oh, damn, I got free food.
And what happens is they give you six months.
And here's what happens.
Three months in, you're chilling.
You're chilling.
And I'm getting free food.
I don't have to work.
You're 22 years old.
It doesn't matter.
After six months, you have to like renew.
You start to kind of come dependent on it.
And that's ultimately what this comes down to because I don't want to basically admonish people
that are using SNAP that actually need it.
And what I realized was this.
There's three camps.
There's the people that just genuinely can't function in society.
and actually need basic help.
It's the whole premise of our social safety net.
That's fine.
I get those people.
The second people are the people that can, but they need help.
That was like me at the time.
Look, I can work, but I got laid off and I need some time.
Cool, you get six months, boom.
Here's the challenge.
I think what we're talking about, these other things.
It's the people that can't, that won't.
They want to work.
They want to game the system.
They want to get free stuff.
And they're basically saying, hey, why are you telling me what to do with
the money you gave me.
So to me, it comes down to this final thing.
Do you want the freedom
or do you want the restrictions that come
with government assistance? To me,
anyone that just relies on government assistance,
it's a doomsday scenario for you in the end.
Well, I mean, what this does is, Brian, I'll come to.
What this does is
42 million people are getting stamped.
Wow, 42 million.
107 billion that we spend just for snap.
42 million.
That's a lot of people.
By the way, the people that are getting 42 million
And most of them are adults.
Like, it's not like it.
42 million are getting snap.
And because remember when the conversation came on who was getting snap,
what ethnicity, which immigrants, and you saw the Somalians,
you saw all that stuff.
And they're like, well, we got to cut snap.
And then there was so many videos going viral saying,
you better not cut snap.
It's going to hurt so many kids.
And then Republicans are like, okay, this is a very sensitive topic.
Yeah, of course.
For us to go directly and say, we're cutting in half to $21 million.
Rather, they went this route.
And so this is one step, then the next step.
Then the next step. By the way, before I come to you, we did the poll, how many sodas do you drink per month?
What percentage you think is at zero?
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Yep, we totally have vehicles to handle that
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Where your flight's delayed, your phone's at 2% and your dinner is,
whatever is open?
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Here for that, too.
Enterprise.
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Oh, our audience.
1%.
Our audience?
Our audience?
3%.
Your audience is business owners.
Your audience is business.
Yeah, we have a high class up.
I'd say, I'd say your audience maybe 25.
You're close.
39% said zero.
Zero in a month?
I am so.
These are motivated people.
Dude, I am so.
impressed by our audience. You're my hero.
Freaking awesome. Good for you. I got to push back.
Give yourself a pan here. Watch this. One to five a month
is 32%. Yeah. Five to ten a month is
9%. Ten plus a month, 20%.
One out of five listeners drink more than ten sodas a month.
That's insane. Brian, thoughts.
Well, look, anytime you have something like this where the government says you're not
allowed to do this, this is a good law. It was the same, I don't know if you remember this, but
It was the same debate when smoking and seatbelts came along.
When seatbelts were mandatory, there was a huge uproar about how the government,
how dare the government make me wear my seatbelt, I'm allowed to die if I want to and stuff like that.
Cigarettes were the same thing.
It was a very contentious idea, which is that you're not allowed to smoke pretty much anywhere,
and secondhand smoke causes all kinds of problems.
And, oh, by the way, we have to take care of you as you die,
just like when you have diabetes, now you have lung cancer.
Those laws looking back on the fact that nobody smokes.
anymore. Nobody smokes anymore. Well, they're all vaping.
What do you mean? They're all vaping, but it's
very true. Just remove the ball. It's very true.
A cigarette smoker, it's like, but vaping doesn't
have that secondhand thing that we were dealing with
and seatbelts are another thing.
So, sometimes there are
some good restrictions, and this is a great
example. But what bothers me is we have
$13.6 billion
a year goes to
illegals that are on welfare.
And I'm tired of this country
constantly about our affordability,
we're in debt. We waste so
money, dude, billions and billions on people that don't belong here. And we try to say, guys,
please get out and don't come here. We're the A-holes. You know what my first thought was when
you just said 13 billion? You know how sick this is? I went like this. I went,
that's a pittance. Our debt is 40 trillion. Yeah, see what I'm saying? Forty trillion. A trillion
seconds, everybody, is 32,000 years. We have 40 of those in debt. And debt. So when you talk about
13 billion, that's adorable. Yeah. Is it a, is it? A, 40,
It's a thousand. A trillion is a thousand billion.
But waiting for this or mine, all the years, of all the years of that 13 billion, 13 billion,
20 billion, 100 billion. That money is, I mean, we're going down in the whole,
but I mean, where you have to start somewhere.
This is the one we were talking about earlier.
And there's something on here.
We're talking about earlier.
I'm going to read it, Tom, I'm going to come to you.
Foot stamps by ethnicity.
Here we go.
Watch this.
Percentage of U.S. households receiving for Afghan 45.6%.
This is from the personal finance.
Wizards. Somalis, 424, Iraqi, Dominican, Caribbean, U.S. native.
Then you got Puerto Rican, Cuban, black, Arab, Cambodian, Asian, Pacific, and then you got
the rest of them. Tom, you were going to say something on this.
This became the topic of the special.
The Somali one, number two. We found out in Minnesota. Doge found it, and Minnesota covered
it up. There were people in Minnesota that were able-bodied working people that had
multiple EBT cards coming to them under the SNAP program. Multiple people that were
So there was fraud in terms of access, getting a card, and you didn't even deserve a card, and now we had all this bad food being purchased.
This freaking program was broken.
On one side, you got lobbyists from big food, making sure that certain foods could be bought with it, and now the states are pushing back.
You know why the states are pushing back because of Medicaid.
Medicaid is where the sick people that are on welfare have to get their health care.
So the state looks at it and says, why am I giving him sugary drinks?
and then on my Medicaid budget, now I've got to give insulin.
I'm not doing that.
So that's right.
And then on the other side of it, Pat, was the fraud of getting access to the program.
It was broken.
There was no auditing on who got access, and it was a revolving door with the lobbyist.
This is an example of your tax dollar at work.
This is why we've got $30,000 of those trillion-dollar, 32,000-year things to make up for.
It's incredible.
Look, we want to focus on the top of the list of basically who's abusing the system,
from what states are basically just giving way money.
But I want to give a shout out to the people at the bottom of the list.
Shout out to the Indians here who aren't accepting anything.
They're taking less than the whites.
Sorry about that.
And the Italian.
So, I mean, we want to admonish people who are doing the bad thing.
But let's give some respect.
I kind of know where you're going.
No, no, guys, let me tell you what he's trying to do.
And he does this every time.
You know what he really wanted to say.
Go to the bottom of the list.
He wanted to say, look at the Israelis.
Are they there?
Where are they?
Right there on the bottom.
You know you wanted to go there.
There is.
No, I didn't even see them there. Indians, 4.4.
Then Italians, then Italians, then Chinese, Filipino,
Nigerians, and Israelis. Get your stuff together, buddy.
The Filipinos are beating you. The Chinese are beating you.
They took the matzabals off the program.
That's why they don't use it.
Exactly, of course.
Let me get to the next.
It always comes back to the Jews.
It always invisible circle of Jews holding strings.
Every concern.
I thought that's where it was going.
I'm trying to give Indians a shout out.
Listen, every day we have to get a commercial about Israel from this guy.
Every day.
We can get a commercial.
about Somalia, but I'm going to the,
hang on, A-PAC wire incoming.
Let me get to the next story.
Let me get to the next story.
So this story, which is, it's getting heavier.
Like, you know, yesterday, the whole Iran sanctions that it's announced.
This is so technical, but this is, like, if you want to find out how bad,
have you, has anybody ever suffocate?
Like, imagine, let's just say, you were once married and you have a house,
and this house later on sells for, like, I don't know, $5 million or something,
like $6 million, and that money was yours.
You worked your ass off for this, right?
And then you have somebody like an ex or a father or a, you know, wife or somebody that's just suffocating all your finances.
That you can't do anything.
Everything, like when we ran the insurance company, every month, we would have some people that would get wages garnished.
Why?
You didn't pay child.
We would learn everybody who's back on child support payment.
That was one of our jobs that we would get, hey, that man's making all this money.
He owns me child support back in this distance.
And then we would work with these husbands,
and most of the time it was husbands.
What U.S. just did to Iran,
they are suffocating a country in ways
it's never been suffocated before.
And that operation they're calling
is Operation Economic Outcast,
nothing to do with the rappers in a bath passed with a seat.
Not a K, this is with a C.
It's very important for you to know this.
So Rubio said we are moving away from strikes
to sanctions.
So what does this mean?
Let me get to the story.
Do we know what page the story's on?
There's like a bunch of them on this.
So I go one by one by one on these stories.
So Rubio tells allies, U.S. shifting away from strikes to sanctions on Iran.
Okay?
And how bad is this thing going to be when Besson broke it down?
Tom, do you want to kind of go through this?
Because this thing gets very, very deep, you know, on what direction they're going with.
Tom, I'll come to you first.
First of all, they're now just like you start with sanctions on oil.
You can't sell oil and we're going to blockage you.
so you can't send your ships to China with the oil.
So we start there.
Then we said, and we're also going to the other oil products
so that you can't send fertilizer to China
because, you know, fertilizer is a compound
that also comes out of oil products.
You can't do that.
And now they're basically saying, you know,
we're going to go off everything.
We're going to go cost of living.
We're going to go after all of the things that are on there
that the people need.
Well, my question is they may be suffocating a country
But do these particular leaders care if the people suffer and is that going to get them to move?
Well, I mean, the part that to me that is very interesting is I think Tom, what they're concerned, right,
yesterday had Ted Cruz here. We did a three-hour podcast together. He came down and we're talking about some of these trades, tariffs, how it works, does it work, does it not work?
If you're doing this and I believe Pakistan and Turkey just signed a trade deal with Iran and you keep here in everything.
Erdog, Erdogan, Erdogan, and there's possibility that Israel may do something with Turkey.
There's a conflict there that's brewing that people are watching very closely.
And then you're going to China and saying, hey, if you choose to do business with Iran, you're not doing any business with us.
You don't have to do it.
It is not a must, but they're almost using Pakistan.
And remember what the negotiation was for the memorandum of it?
It was Pakistan.
They were leading it.
So this is a very weird direction they're going.
They're not just stuff.
They're telling everybody, I swear to God, if you're an ally with Iran and you help them in any way, I'm not your customer.
I'm not your customer.
And even deeper levels to possibly not even doing business with the U.S. dollar, which is kind of a little bit of a risk Besson's taking.
Look, there's nobody that knows this business better than Besson.
People forget who Besson used to work for.
He worked for Soros.
He worked for Soros. He worked for the devil.
I didn't know that.
Oh, you worked for Soros one time nine years.
You didn't know this?
I did not know.
Besson worked for Soros first time for nine years,
second time for five or six years.
Who knows more about currency manipulation than Soros?
Nobody.
Well, I have a question.
But let me wrap to someone.
I'll just come to you.
So to me, the fact that this guy was the chief investment officer for Soros for five years
and prior to that he was with him for nine years from 91 to 2000.
So if they're doing this and Besson's leading it,
guess what we know?
the guy's got a lot of experience
and doing it. So he's going to know how to suffocate Iran.
Now whether it'll work or not, we'll see.
It's going to be tough.
Look, China, 90% of Iran's crude goes to China.
China's not independent.
Now, here's interesting.
There's not a shot.
If we're going to actually do this to China
and starve China of energy,
it ain't happening.
There's going to be,
they're going to figure our way around that.
They need that fertilizer
because they can't grow their own food.
they are dependent on energy.
They're going to get it somewhere.
Now, it's interesting to me that the head of the CIA
has gone to Russia.
What's he doing there?
Quietly.
What's he doing there talking to Putin?
Is this something where they're going,
can you give, is this a way of saying,
you want to sell your oil, Russia?
You can sell it to China because we've got to do this thing
in the straight of our moves.
We've got to block things.
We've got to make it very uncomfortable for Iran.
I don't know.
I'm not a foreign policy.
But it's very interesting.
The timing is very interesting to me.
These things are thought about if you're smart about it.
Don't you think they've thought about it?
Watch the sequencing.
Watch the sequencing.
First you get Venezuela, then you go after Iran.
If you go after Iran, you know how much they're relying on oil.
You then say, hey, Venezuela's going to broker a deal with you.
At a discount, we'll send it to you.
China's still going to get there.
Or they've thought about this stuff.
Let me kind of share with you what the plan looks like.
So the U.S. has mapped Iran's network.
Besson says Treasury has mapped notes, facilitators, and networks Iran uses to sell oil and evade sanctions.
So you know what that means?
This is kind of like, you know, one of the things Anna Paulina Luna is trying to work on right now, which she's doing a very good job,
is she's trying to find that which influencers in America are getting paid by foreign entities and foreign countries.
Good.
So a lot of times people can create a shell to get the money to get paid to a shell,
and then somehow some way money comes to you
and nobody finds out that it came from Qatar or China or whoever.
The government's finding out ways to identify and say,
these influencers are getting paid.
Just tell the world Russia's paying you.
Just tell the world Qatar's paying you,
which the same way Snap is being held accountable for not getting tattoos.
Guess what we want that, right?
This is very important.
Let me read this to you one more time.
Besant says Treasury has mapped the nodes,
facilitators, and networks.
Iran uses to sell oil to what?
to evade sanctions.
So they're telling you,
we know what you're doing to get some of the billionaires
in your country that are doing it so it doesn't look like it's you.
Kind of like what happened with Huawei many years ago
when Huawei's daughter was the CFO
who was in Canada doing a deal with Iran
and all of a sudden Trump said on his first time,
guess what, Huawei, you can never do business
with America and Huawei left.
And this was a $100 billion dollar company.
I don't know if you remember this or not.
This was a massive story eight years ago,
nine-year time.
Do you remember the story?
Totally remember.
With the CFO, that was the daughter of Huawei,
came in. And she was in Canada. She was in Canada when this happened. But Pat, they're not going to be able
to do it. You're not going to be able to. The United States is not going to be able to tell Turkey,
China. You're not going to be able to tell these people what to do. They might say, okay, yeah,
yeah, yeah, we got you. They need their oil. And the oil's flowing. What if you have a different
supply that comes to them from a different place? What if you provide them a different place?
Well, you've got to figure out a way to build a pipeline in a hurry. But the straight of hormones is
still a crucial waterway. And Iran, the thing that they can do with that, the thing that,
tiny drone is all they have to do is hit one ship. And now here's the problem. And it happened yesterday.
The ship can't get insurance. The ship can't get insurance. No company shipping company is going to go,
I'm not putting my ship. This is where US government said, we'll come and do the insurance.
Forget about loads of London. Try that. That's fine. So now we got to escort every ship.
And it's, you can still cause a problem with one tiny drone. And the problem is those,
those companies then say, okay, I have to rely.
on the U.S. military for insurance, I don't think so. Let me just read the sequence and I'm going to
come to you guys. So watch is. Trump called each of the country's leader individually.
So he called them and says, guys, this is what we're doing. I need you to back me up. Number three,
Treasury State U.S. military teams then met with their counterparts. This isn't simply OFAC publishing
sanctions. Interagency teams are approaching foreign governments and telling them specifically
what Washington expected closed. Each country gets its own deadline. Each of them to have
don't set up deadlines or what they need to do.
Iranian bank branches get closed.
Besson gave one example specifically.
Every bank Melly branch must be shuttered.
That's a pretty heavy statement.
This guy's not playing around.
Foreign banks can lose access to dollars.
So Besson explicitly threatened entities facilitating Iran money
would remove from U.S. dollar system.
This is not something that we say commonly.
Secondary sanctions.
Now cover the five additional Iranian sectors,
There's digital asset, technology, gold, aviation, and shipping.
And then they're targeting the entire oil chain, not merely the buyers.
So the producer, the tanker, the shipowner, the ship manager, all of them.
So Treasury immediately hit roughly 60 different targets, assets frozen, and the 50% rule kicks in.
So this is not like they're doing, Tom.
Do you think this is going to work?
Your percentage is what?
10% chance?
I don't think it's too much.
What do you give it?
What percentage do you think this work?
I think it's lip service.
And I think the, I don't know that the, you know.
sanctions that were in place for as long as they had been before that weren't really restrictive
as well. The problem is enforcing this stuff, really hard to enforce it. What do you think is a
likelihood this actually works and causes pain? Five percent. Okay, fair. Tom, where are you at
with this? I'm higher than that. I'll tell you why. You have to go back and take a look at how these
things work. What they're talking about, they're talking about intermediaries. That's people that can
facilitate wires. They're talking about the clearing houses for the banks. They're also talking about
the aviation and shipping companies that are actually shells, and they're talking about the
free trade zones, because there's free trade zones everywhere. There's one in Montreal.
There's free trade zones around the world where it's easy to get in and out because you
don't have certain restrictions because, you know, as long as you're not selling this, this, or this,
you know, goods, services, as long as they're on a list can go through. Pat, you know,
do you remember who was the Mexican drug bank? Who was the drug bank from Mexico? It goes back to like
2015, 2012. It was
HSBC. H-SBC was known as the drug bank.
Cianola cartel was moving a billion
dollars through them. It was ridiculous,
and they got sanctioned heavily
when the U.S. found it. Well, guess what?
As fast as they were moving on HSBC,
regional banks and everything picked up the slack.
So if they get in here, and they can
step on the air hose, and the reason they want to
close that bank is they want to close the wire
and the transfer capability,
That's what they're going after.
If you can track all the wire and transfer and you can say, hey, Citibank, you just moved the billion.
No, we didn't.
Everyone has to be shut down because you're in there.
So the question is, it's going to happen.
This was huge what they did with HSBC.
And I think what they're talking about when I read this and I see clearinghouses, transfer facilitators, that's all of the free trade zoes.
That has to do with the money moving around.
If he's able to step on that, Pat, I give you a greater than 50.
percent chance of succeeding. This working.
Politically, I'm
with Callan politically at 5
percent if you were just talking.
But if they get in there and they step on the
transports, then the money can't move.
Well, we got to finish this war with Canada first.
I agree. I agree. I agree. It's so funny.
Trump is like, I'm renaming
that lake of them. And we're going to go to that. But I want to stay here.
Because this to me, if this
works, by the way, again, I want to reemphasize this,
Besson's the right guy.
Trump's the right guy because he's got the balls.
And Rubio is the right guy because, you know,
he knows how to maneuver and talk to everybody.
So they got the right, you know, personalities going there.
If they pulled this off, because I'll read this story to you and Adam,
I'm going to come to you.
This is from AP.
Ready?
This is from AP.
Iran scrambles to sustain trade as U.S.
threatened sanctions on countries that refuse to break ties.
AP?
AP is a liberal, leftist government.
It's not like it's going to be pro-Trump.
Iran's economy already battered by inflation sanctions and a war debt slash oil revenue
faces more instability as Washington coercive countries into ending financial dealings with Iran.
The UAE's decision last week to suspend trade kickstarted the isolation push.
Those who stand with the United States will reap the rewards of the partnerships at Bessent.
Those who tethered themselves to the Iranian regime should expect to share in the isolation.
So again, they're pushing everybody out.
Success hinges on China.
the main buyer of Iranian oil, which you said earlier,
I don't see China playing ball by any means,
said Chatham House fellow David Lubin.
Iran exchanged $125 billion in goods in 2024,
but the UAE, China, and Turkey supplied nearly three quarters of their imports.
The UAE can be replaced, but the Iranians are openly saying it's not going to happen overnight.
Adam.
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Yeah, I mean, to me it comes down to one question. Like how much do you care about your own
citizens. Because what we can say about America and Trump, Trump cares about his citizens, but he's
basically saying, listen, you might have to pay a little bit more at the pump. That's the worst
situation. You're going to go from comfortable to a little bit of discomfort. The Iranian regime,
you think they care about their own citizens? You think they care that their citizens are
struggling to eat? They'll kill 50,000 of them in a weekend if they're even talking back.
So to me, that's why I'm kind of with Call and I'm like, I don't see these guys.
guys conceding because these sanctions are supposed to breed concessions. All right, bro, we're
going to do this to you. And when we do this, we need you to do this. And here's the reason why.
Unless it hits the people in power, yeah, it's not going to create a change. Okay, so for instance,
all right, in America, gas prices are a little bit more. Unless it starts affecting the people in
power, they're like, all right, so you used to pay $3.50, you're paying $4.5 now, too bad. But in Iran,
I mean, the anguish, the misery, the misery index that we talk about, the inflation, the unemployment,
they're just like, we don't care.
So what's your point, though?
My point is, they don't care about their citizens.
So we're asking them to make concessions on things they don't care about.
Then you and Calinar on the same page.
Are you less than 5% this works?
Well, I think a little bit differently.
I think after midterms, Trump's not going to care that much about gas prices, and he's going to light them up.
So they got about 60 to 90 days to get this thing done.
Don't think he's going to.
I don't think he's going to.
No, he's not going to light him up.
First of all,
why wouldn't he light him up?
Because Iran knows a couple of things.
One is that the Americans do not have an appetite to actually go into Iran.
That'd be the dumbest thing in the world.
Either just Trump, he's not going to do that.
Number two, they can shut the Strait of Hormuz down very easily with a little mischief for a couple grand.
Those two things are huge.
I don't know if you saw the news, not to cut you off.
They just removed all the mines in the street of Hormo.
That's fine.
That's fine.
But now they have a bargaining chip.
Now they can just cut. What I'm saying is that they've got a couple cards.
Yeah, they've got a couple cards.
But at the end of the day, look, Iran has that oil.
The world needs that oil.
The world needs that sulfur.
Yeah.
For how long?
For how long?
Because there's alternative.
Sure.
And they're making alternative.
In 10 years.
In 10 years.
I don't know if it's going to take that long.
I mean, we're seeing what's going on the Red Sea.
Either way.
Either way, I'm telling you right now, if China needs that oil, they're going to get that oil.
Oh, I don't think China is going to make those things.
I think you're talking about sanctions.
Let me play this clip of what Besson said,
threatening China and Iran. Go forward.
...institutional
that facilitate transactions
for Iran.
Chinese banks
have often been talked
about being targeted, but
we don't see any of those
institutions targeted here.
Is that something
that is coming in this campaign,
or is the
very delicate trade truce
with China, something that could
prohibit you from, you know,
that far and taking that very big step.
We want to make clear to hear today that no one is above the reach of U.S. sanctions,
that if they facilitate transactions and are part of the ecosystem that turns Iranian
oil into money, into repression, they will be targeted.
Okay.
So that's that part on what he's saying.
He's making a very clear.
I want you to watch a second one.
Go forward.
And let me be clear, any entity that facilitates money laundering on behalf of Iran will be removed from the U.S. dollar system.
The clock just started ticking.
So you think this is a nothing burger?
I think it's lip-ser.
Really?
You can't do that.
Good luck.
What?
We're going to get into a way.
Are we going to really, you think you can sanction China?
That symbiotic relationship?
I think we're in a different world.
Our symbiotic relationship with China?
Oh, well, let's do that to the economy on top of all this.
other stuff. Enjoy that in the midterms, guys. I mean, are you...
It's not like China would... How much of the oil China gets you think they get from Iran?
I don't know the... I think... I'm asking him.
I looked it up. Was it 20, 30%, percent? I know that Iran's 90% of their crude goes to China.
For sure. But I don't know what the exact... So those are two different concerns, right?
They are. So China only gets 8% of their oil from Iran. Right. So 8% is replaceable. If it was a
bigger number? Yeah. Different story.
How about the sulfur? How about
fertilizer and stuff? Because they have
to grow their own food. And then they're
shipping the raw materials to create
rocket fuel, you know, for
those rockets back. Look, I
really look back to the HSBC
case. They were monitored for five years,
Pat. Five years. At the end of the five
years, nobody was indicted
because they said, too big to jail.
Right? Too big to fail?
Like we did there? No, no, no. That's what they said.
They said too big to jail and they didn't want to destabilize the world banking system.
They're stepping over this now because until Besson nails a large bank and takes them offline,
the market, the stock markets are going to price this as a tax pat.
Do you understand?
Because they're going to say, oh, you're going to get, that bank will get fine, that bank will get fine, they'll get fine.
So they see that as a tax or a cost in the system.
But this is different language.
And this is why I say it's 50% chance is going to work.
This is much different language.
No U.S. representative, Secretary of State, Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of Treasury, President, Vice President, has ever gone to the microphone with this sort of specificity and said, I'm going to take you off the dollar system.
It means I'm shutting down wires, I'm shutting down access.
If they truly close and they're aiming at the Iranian bank pat, if they truly take them offline, then there's something.
But until then, it's going to be treated as a tax by the financial markets.
and you go back to HSBC.
By the way, it was over $7 billion.
By the way, HSBC was the number one mover of money in and out of Mexico,
and they caught the cartels that the teller windows had these square openings
where you could slide boxes through,
and the Cianola cartels' boxes where they would pack their money
were the exact dimensions of the teller windows at HSBC.
The question is, has this tactic ever worked in the past before?
That's the question.
So let me read this to you.
We've never been on that.
In 2012, U.S. essentially told foreign banks and oil buyers
substantially reduce Iranian oil purchases dealings
with sanctioned Iranian banks or risk losing access to the U.S. financial system.
We've done this before.
Treasury contacted more than 120 financial institutions and regulators across 60 countries.
Treasury says the overwhelming majority changed their practices
rather than risk U.S. financial access.
The result were dramatic.
Iranian crude oil exports fell from 2.5 million.
barrels a day to 1.5 million barrels a day. That's a 40% decline. By 2014, it fell to 1.1 million
barrels a day, 60%. Iran's oil revenue took a huge hit. Treasury later estimated that sanctions
cost Iran more than 160 billion dollars in oil revenue in 2012. And here's the part that
relevant to your question. You ready? China participated. Wow. That's the biggest factor. So,
does that change your mind a little bit? This has partly worked in a past before?
My instinct always goes to when I hear Bessent start talking about punitive measures, I go to gun control.
I just go, man, every time you try to say, I'm going to bring the hammer down, people find a way around these things.
And when a country does that, when we start talking geopolitically and we start rattling swords, I always, I'm cynical now because I go, how much is lip service, how much of this is political, how much of this is Trump?
And the administration is desperate because what they realize is that they are in a war.
We're stuck in Iran.
And I don't, I wouldn't know how to get out of it.
This is a problem.
By the way, I don't think you're alone.
I think millions of people think the way you do.
So there is a community.
I'm skeptical.
Very skeptical.
I like, did you have anything?
Well, just to add.
50, my 50 is with you.
Adam said it.
And I think Tom mentioned two, this boots up.
The only way, Brian, and this is not what we want.
The only way to win in Iran is literally boots on.
and then blow them all up.
There's no way.
This was the biggest mistake.
We are where we are.
This isn't going anywhere.
This is going to affect the midterms.
It's going to affect the freaking presidency.
Remember, it was going to be two weeks and we were going to be done?
What happened?
And look where we are.
Because they were six days away from a nuclear weapon.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We've been hearing that for 30 years.
I don't believe none of that.
I hear you.
I think there's two different lanes here.
There's militarily and then there's economically.
And then the overarching is strategically.
But like you said,
if they don't care about the people,
They'll starve and they don't give a damn about the people.
Oh, I agree.
So the only way to do it is to kill everybody.
That's the only way.
Good luck.
Listen.
Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying.
I don't want it, but it's-
What Pat just said was very important,
and he just gave a case example of when it worked.
So let me just frame this in 10 seconds.
Pat wrote a book.
It was called Choose Your enemies wisely.
The opposite of that is what Iran is going to be forced to do,
and the people that are around Iran,
it's going to be, choose your allies wisely.
America is basically saying, oh,
you want to be friends with Iran or us.
There's no in between.
Now, whether that works.
We've done that before, though.
That's what they're saying.
Yeah, we've been doing that for 40 years.
But now they're going to do it economically and strategically.
So you can do financial sanctions.
We did it then too.
You can do trade sanctions.
And they're basically saying,
the longest 10 seconds I've heard.
Well, Brian Callen interrupted me.
So it starts every time he interrupts.
Sorry, buddy, sorry.
But we're going to see what these countries choose as far as the French.
We'll see what happens.
Let's move on to the next story.
Canada, Canadian terrorists.
this war back and forth is not slowing down
and it's getting worse and worse
so tariff refunds contribute to record
setting corporate profit boosts
this is Canadian tariffs that they're talking about
Tom can you go a little bit deeper
on this retaliatory tariff
that's going on with Canada and the U.S.
I'll read one of the stories
and I'll turn it over to you
bully feud erupts between
Trump and Ontario Doug Ford
over China's trade tariffs
I don't know if you guys got a clip on this or not
if you do I'll read this
and then we'll possibly go to a clip in a time I'm coming to you first.
The war awards between U.S. and Canada is heating up alongside the trade world.
Ontario premiered Duck for twice telling President Trump, kiss my ass.
Trump pledged Monday to raise tariffs on Canadian cars, trucks,
auto parts and steel to 50% in January after 50% tariffs on other goods.
Landed Saturday when trade talks collapsed.
Canada has been ripping off the United States for years.
Trump posted, including we do not yet need Canada.
They need us.
Prime Minister Mark Carney suspended negotiations.
Friday over last minute changes.
He called unfair, uneconomic, vowing to retaliate dollar for dollar.
Ford calling Trump a bully said Canada must throw everything in the kitchen sink at him.
I have a lot of real estate on my ass, and so he has a lot of room to kiss my ass.
Fort, is this Ford talking?
Played a clip.
I kind of like it.
This guy looks like Brock Lesnar.
He does.
With Trump, you know, I'm not going to, I'm just not going to take the bait.
This guy's a loser.
He's going to be a loser, and as simple as that.
We're going to fight with everything we have.
And, you know something?
I have more courage, more brains of my baby toe than he has in his whole body.
So there you go.
And I have a lot of real estate on my ass, so he has a lot of room to get my ass.
If you're getting Canadians to talk this way.
If you're getting Canadians to start talking about this way,
Canadians are the most polite people on the planet,
and they got Brock Lesnar's twin out there.
You got a problem.
You better back it up when you're talking like this.
better back it up.
Tom, your thoughts on this.
Okay.
So when Trump says Canada's been ripping us off for years,
what he's talking about is two key disputes that go back literally 20 years.
Canada has been throwing disadvantages at American farmers and American lumber industry for years.
Canada's got a lot of cows in Alberta.
They got a lot of grassland up there, and they have a lot of lumber.
And what they've done is they've done a thing called stumpage fees.
stumpage fees basically creates an advantage and a subsidy to their own lumber people who then ship plywood and building products to United States and disadvantage the U.S. suppliers.
So this has been going to make that sense, Pat. So that's been going on for a long time.
Also, dairy has been going on. Guess what? There's the cows. That's been going on for a long time.
So Trump got into this on the good side that, hey, man, there's been a couple areas where you guys have really kind of been messing with us.
and we really want to straighten these out.
And Canada's like, no, no, no, we don't want to touch those.
And it said, no, you've been ripping us off for a lot of time.
That's what Trump is talking about.
I don't know if ripoff is the word, but those have been things that have been unresolved.
That's what Trump was pissed off about.
Now, who's Doug Ford?
Doug Ford is the governor of Ontario.
Governor of Ontario.
So he's basically the Gavin Newsom of Canada.
He goes to the microphone.
He's unafraid to say stuff like this.
This is what it's all about.
Meanwhile, Mark Carney is playing because the EU has told Mark Carney that they're giving him green light to go up against Trump.
We're going to help you out.
We're going to do this.
We'll trade with you.
There's things we'll do.
So Canada, with a GDP, one-tenth of the U.S., 31 versus $1.3 trillion, they are sitting there, you know, 3.1, 31% 3.1, pushing it.
So that's what's going on.
mean now all of a sudden you've got Trump elevating it saying Trump things you know you guys are idiots you're the worst it's ever
renaming a lake where Trump started in a good point that we needed to level the playing field for the lumber industries dairy and others digital services too
and now it escalated into this where they're screaming each other we're renaming a lake I want to I want to play this clip for you so this is president
Trump on Glembach talking about what it's like to do business with Canada. Go for it.
They are one of the worst countries in the world to deal with.
And this has gone on for many years.
Wait, wait, wait. Can we say this? I love Canadians and Canada. I do not like their administration.
Okay. Well, the administration and the previous administration too is terrible.
Yes, yes, yes, yes. But they have taken advantage of the United States for many decades, actually.
They charge tariffs that are unbelievable, like on milk, 400%.
And I just said, we're taking them on.
And I took them on at the beginning, but we had so many other things to do
because the country is a mess.
But I said, we're going to take them on, we're going to stop it.
And you saw the Lake Ontario.
You know, people thought I was kidding.
Maybe I wasn't.
Because the last one you saw was the Gulf of Mexico,
Gulf of America.
He's so funny.
Now we have a golf and we have a lake, okay?
You know, it's very simple.
But look, I don't want to go to great detail
because it may be boring to people,
but to me it's some point.
They charge tariffs.
They take advantage of us
as though they were a state
and they're not a state.
And they've taken our car industry
and they've taken our agriculture industry.
You know, the farmers can't sell anything in there
because the tariffs are so enormous.
And yet they want to sell
in us without any case.
Tom, what do you think about what he said? You can pause it right there.
What do you think about what he? He's right. This is what I was talking about. He didn't mention lumber,
but lumber and dairy, you know, and he's talking about milk. Those have been two areas
that have been going on for a long time, have been unresolved. And they've been giving benefit to Canada.
Here's where you have to be careful with the auto industry. The U.S. sends aluminum to Canada.
Canada makes parts out of it, and then they sell the parts back to Ford. We use materials,
it into parts and send it to them.
So when the car is built in America, there's what's called the circle.
So labor may live in Canada because the workers are putting it together.
Canada may have made the parts.
We designed the car and we made all of these parts.
So Ford a long ago had what's called the 351 Windsor.
It was a classic engine, phenomenal engine.
You know, you take one of those.
You put the aluminum heads on it, a little bit of aftermarket.
I had a Ford Bronco with one.
And they're bulletproof.
Oh, yeah.
The engine will last longer than the car.
And it's tremendous.
Well, you know where Windsor is?
Windsor locks is directly.
It's a trivia.
It's above Detroit, right?
South of Detroit.
Windsor, Canada is the only place that you can go south from the United States and get into Canada.
Every other place you have to go north.
You can go south because it goes this one.
South Windsor, yeah.
And so the Windsor factory was named there.
So the auto industry, Pat, we've had good symbiotic relationships that help people, working moms and dads that were working in the auto industry.
Who has leverage here?
Supplier companies.
We have the leverage.
Go, light them up.
Do we have the leverage?
Why do we not have the leverage?
I just worry that, you know, first of all,
talk about the funniest president of all time.
I'm sorry, if you hate him,
but to name, rename the lake,
just despite, it's like, you want to divorce me?
I'm going to pee in every corner of the house.
See ya.
To me, he makes me laugh so hard.
That's just so silly.
But I just wonder if 50% tariffs,
which obviously he probably won't stand with.
He just usually goes crazy,
and then we scale back from there.
But is this good right now for the economy?
Is this timing beneficial?
Do we have the leverage?
He took the tariff off of beef itself.
Okay.
But beef so that we can get cows and beef from Alberta.
So he took that off.
If you go look at that.
So the price of meat, don't mess with my steak?
Well, he's trying to help the American barbecue because right now ground beef is six bucks.
Okay.
And seven years ago, it was three bucks.
Wow.
Yeah, by the way, when you're talking about this, and I'll come to you, you're worried about this, like Lake America, whatever you're changing.
Let me tell you what's an insult.
You know what's coming up in a couple weeks?
Do 25-year anniversary of 9-11, okay?
So then imagine, this is a country that wants to be partners with America.
And two weeks before the 25-year anniversary of 9-11, CBC would be a country.
which is the PBS of Canada sends an email to tell their journalists not to call 9-11 terrorist attack
in internal guidance.
They know they're doing this two weeks before 9-11.
Can you go back to the email so we can read the email what it looks like?
That's so outrageous.
That is so outrageous.
Look at this year.
Do not refer to September 11 attacks as terrorist attacks.
The hijackings led to passenger jet crashes in D.C., Pennsylvania and Manhattan.
The World Trade Center was destroyed.
September 11, Digital Archive is an excellent resource for details about the tax.
It was created by several U.S. universities, historical societies, and foundations.
If you have any specific questions about the 9-11 anniversary coverage you are working on,
please reach out to your editorial leader or JSP office. Thanks and take care.
What?
Scumbacks.
So you're worried about me changing the names to a damn lake,
and you want to go out there on the worst event that's happened in America the last 25 years,
that the 25-year anniversary is coming up,
you have the audacity to say this is not a terrorist attack?
What was it then?
No problem.
No problem.
By the way, this is the part that you have to realize,
this is not the CNN of Canada.
This is not the ABC of Canada.
This is not a blogger.
This is not the bribeard or Daily Wire or Midas Touch.
This is the government-funded CBC News sending an email to their people saying,
9-11 was in the terrorist act.
That's incredible.
Does that sound like a partner to you?
Incredible.
Does that sound like a partner to you?
Is that an insult that spit in your face?
I'm so glad he's pushing back.
I really am so glad he's pushing back.
And unless somebody from the government comes up and says,
that email is not how we feel about it.
If Carney and other leaders start spewing that same rhetoric saying,
yeah, you know what, 9-11 wasn't a terrorist attack,
we're not dealing with a partner here.
We're just not.
It's almost so crazy.
I want to think I'm being had.
Like, it feels like an.
April Fool's joke. And it's not. It's
legit. I want to see what
Carney says in response
to this. I got to see what they say.
Canada's got to make a statement. Well, I'll tell you what
Carney said about this. They get 1.5
billion. So CBC operates
on a budget of about $1.5 billion
a year. Apparently, 450
million of that is from
advertising. They raise advertising revenue
just like any media company. You paid to put
an ad on. The rest comes
from the government of Canada
and Mark Carney just gave them a 10% increase.
So there you go.
He probably did that beforehand, I'm hoping.
So what I'm doing?
What's the date on that email?
Can you tell me exactly when the date on that email is that they sent?
Can you go back to the Fox article that you have
and see if it tells you what is the date of that email?
Canadian-Brockson was on Thursday.
On Thursday, yesterday.
Yesterday.
This memo is yesterday.
And they defended it.
And they defended it.
And they defended it.
Politically, because they were politically and emotionally loaded.
You mean the truth.
The truth is politically and emotionally loaded.
Yeah, so is killing over 3,000 of my citizens.
That is pretty wild.
By the way, you know, 4.9% of Canada is a Muslim population, 1.8 million and climbing.
So who knows if there was any motive there, but this is pretty wild.
Cowards.
I look at this as purely political, because I'm trying to,
What I would do in this situation is put myself in Canada shoes.
Because obviously we're thinking as Americans, like,
who the hell are these guys, a piece of crap, how dare you?
Which that sentiment is downright, accurate, and if not, more disgusting than that.
But I'm putting myself in Canada's shoes.
So Trump is hugely unpopular in Canada.
I like what Glenn Banks said when he goes, listen, I love the Canadian people.
The government is what I got a problem with.
And that's why I want to focus here.
So Tom talked about Windsor.
my dad's from Detroit.
I would go to Windsor in a half hour.
So talk about intertwining.
And by the way, we're talking about midterms,
because Canada's basically saying we've got two, three months.
We think that Trump is going to lose the house.
So at that point, we'll have more leverage, boom.
And then what is the state that's up for grabs that's right on the Canadian border?
Michigan, this guy, Al-Sayed.
So they're basically saying, what kind of pain can we sustain?
You know, we talk about short-term pain for long-term game.
They're saying, we'll pay the price.
economically. Our citizens
are going to have to pay more money. We're going to deal
with it in tariffs. But we're going to
hopefully have Trump lose
politically. And that's why this guy Doug Ford
is talking tough, kiss my ass.
He's the bad cop. He's just a governor, but
he's the bad cop at the microphone. At the end of
the day, they're betting that Trump's going to lose
the midterms, that they're going to come out
with more leverage in
two to three months. That's why they're talking tough.
They're not actually tough. They're talking tough.
And they're basically saying, mess with
us. We're going to do our best to make sure you lose
Michigan. So Canada ain't stupid. The government's woke, but they're not stupid. Oh, but for you to,
for you to come out and have the audacity to say 9-11 wasn't a terrorist attack? Yeah. Now,
I think Americans need to turn that into a bigger deal. Americans need to turn that into a bigger deal.
That's not a smart left, right center. I don't care where you lie, you have to turn that into a
bigger deal. The 25 years coming up, that's not acceptable. Why do you think they would do something?
Oh, you know what I would do? I would call. I would call, I would call. I would call. I would call. I
I would call Carney and have my team call out to them and said,
if this apology doesn't come from the top and you don't clarify,
we don't even want to talk to you, nothing.
If from the top you don't come out and say the comments of CBC is not the comments of us
and clarify and make that phone call and they change their position.
Right.
And I want that today.
We have a very, we have a very big problem.
So I like how he's pushing the ammolo.
All right, let me get to the next story.
Next story, we got a bunch of other stories to get into.
The next story I want to get into is Lindsay Clancy's latest story.
I don't know if you guys are following what's going on with this,
but the latest story is, you know, husband speaks out.
I think it's Patrick Clancy comes out, great first name,
and he's talking about he breaks silence on the conspiracy theories surrounding children's death.
This is a story written by Daily Wire.
Patrick Clancy breaks silence.
And there was a guy that was about to get married to a girl calls off the wedding
because his girl, soon-to-be wife, was supportive.
We'll get to that as well, but let me read this to you.
Patrick Clancy responded Tuesday to online conspiracy theories,
tying him to the murders of his three children,
even though his ex-wife, Lindsay Clancy,
acknowledged committing the crimes.
The facts are indisputable.
Patrick Clancy has suffered an unspeakable and unimaginable loss.
Attorney Howard Cooper said in the statement,
warning that those spreading false theories from minor influencers
to major celebrities should be on notice
that their false defamatory statements have caused real-life consequences,
hundreds of TikTokers,
videos with millions of views,
link Patrick to killing one claims without evidence he was the male voice Lindsay heard.
Actress Lisa Rina posted a video claiming her therapist agreed Patrick did it. Patrick did it
because, you know, I also heard that women typically don't strangle. Lindsay Clancy has pleaded
not guilty to murdering Cora, five-year-old, Dawson, three-year-old, and Callan, eight months,
but her defense concedes she strangled them arguing insanity. Vinnie.
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It's unbelievable. First of all, that yesterday was the closing arguments, and I found out 75% of the jurors are women.
So you can already imagine where this is going to go.
But the prosecution said that Lindsay, this is the gist of the case.
She knew what she was doing, and they pointed out her behavior before the killing is evidence that she was thinking clearly and making rational decisions.
The defense is saying, obviously, severe mental problems and not responsible.
But then a forensic psychiatrist Pat testified and said,
There was two of them.
One of them said it's very unusual that the voice that she's claiming that she was hearing
stop after she strangled the youngest son, okay, Callet.
The voice supposedly told her to kill the children, and then once they were dead, the voice stopped.
Okay, so think about that.
And I keep asking myself, but I want to know what you guys think, if a father did this, guys, okay, would people, a male,
would they be bending over backwards turning him into the freaking victim?
Would thousands of men be lining up at him?
And I love that.
I know, because we have this conversation.
standing outside the courtroom screaming,
it's because it's his testosterone or he was in the military.
He has PTSD.
Give him a break.
The hell with, oh, it was the wife.
It was the wife.
Absolutely not.
When a guy kills his freaking family, nobody's outside wearing blue shirts praising him.
Do you guys remember, I just remember this.
Chris Benoit, the WWF when it was WF.
This guy killed his wife, his seven-year-old son, and then killed himself, okay, afterwards.
And then they found out with the investigation.
He had major brain damage CTE.
He had millions of fans.
Guess how many of them were lining up anywhere praising?
Zero.
Right.
Zero.
He killed his freaking family.
End of story.
All right.
And we talked about this earlier today.
What bothers me about this entire thing.
And Connor, if you can please have the photo already with this case.
Brian is, no, not, I don't want none of that.
Somewhere along this conversation became all about her mental health, her medication,
Lindsay this, Lindsay's suffering.
This is what I want people to understand, okay?
This, nobody's talking about them.
Cora's the five-year-old, Dawson's a three-year-old, and Cal is an eight-month-old.
Okay, and while this disgusting demon was killing the girl, the three-year-old, this one, was running, trying to avoid her and get away from her.
Okay, and then when she strangled that eight-month-old, it didn't die in the house, okay?
It died at the hospital two days later.
Its brainstem was bulging out of its back, okay, out of its neck, okay?
She sent the father out to go do shopping or whatever the hell so she could kill him and then try to kill herself which she couldn't do because she's a coward.
Okay.
And God's making her live so she can face the music.
All right.
These are the victims.
These three kids don't get to go to school.
They don't get to freaking go to, they don't get to do nothing because of her.
So stop this nonsense.
It was the father and all that stuff.
It's her.
All right?
And I just hope, regardless of these 75 women percent women, Brian, they see what's going on and they can look through it.
because they're all trying to divert the attention from her
and go to the freaking father.
The father did it.
This is a, like, literally, what is the word?
It is the ultimate crime.
It's Medea.
It's Medea.
It's the mother killing her children, right?
So all of us have this outrage.
Was it psychosis?
You know, my thing is always this.
The big conversation was postpartum depression, okay?
and that can cause people,
and you guys don't really understand
what people go through.
That's fine.
Now, you're not going to kill three kids.
We've got to stop everything.
It's called the stop everything button.
Here's the bigger story, though.
I will say that whether she goes to a hospital
for the insane or a jail,
I'm actually not concerned with that.
We all want punishment.
These children tragically are gone.
This woman is going to have to live in her own health,
blah, blah, blah.
Take a look at how many medications she was on.
Did you look at this list?
13?
But at the time, at the time,
Six and yesterday I saw some reports though that they the the amount that she was on that when they tested her blood isn't I don't know I don't but but it wasn't she at the time she wasn't at the limit and and they broke it down through.
Correct.
I'm sorry the the the prosecution was saying from doctors, because a bunch of doctors were on the stand that at the time when they tested her blood it wasn't at level to make her go crate and I understand bro years and the postpartum and all that stuff but this is and I love.
that you said that Brian. The stop, the time out. She killed them, ran around, chased them.
A psychiatrist is saying this voice in the head and then it stops happening.
Blame, put everything, blaming on everybody else except for her. And I don't know about you guys.
The face that she made when she looked at the jury and she gave them this freaking look, bro,
I put myself in the kids looking at the mom going, oh my God, mommy is killing us.
It's killing my brother and killing my sister and I'm next.
It's the ultimate crime. I mean, I don't know what to say, but it's.
It's the ultimate horror.
But would it bother you, though, Brian?
We all want accountability.
We're huge, especially you hear about accountability.
Would you be comfortable if she does this insanity, whatever,
goes into a clinic for two, three years, and then she's out?
No, no, no, I would not be.
No, I'm not okay with that.
Well, that's a big possibility.
My thing, my thing about this is that psychosis is real.
And there are people, I have a friend who's kind of well-known guy.
his his wife's mother was a wonderful lady started taking uh uh that's her eyes
dude she killed the nine-year-old nephew her husband and herself and she was 80 she just lost her mind
they came home and it was a it was a massacre um so we know these things happen again i do believe
she was clearly whether she's evil or not a whole different i believe in good and evil but this was somebody
out of their mind to do this, out of their mind?
I don't think you can be let out.
I know the worry is like, oh, well, three years now I'm healed.
No, sorry.
You think she deserves a death penalty?
Retribution.
Pat, let me explain something to you.
Yep.
If you don't make an example out of this?
Then guess what this is going to do, Brian?
This is going to set the precedent for any woman that's home right now that's taking
some pills that just goes, hey, they'll refer to the.
I don't think women are going to.
I was crazy.
I don't think women are going to get to have kids more.
You break down the facts. What are the facts? The facts, as we've said it, postpartum depression is very real and needs to be diagnosed properly and treated. Fact. Fact. She was doctor shopping for medications. That's a fact. We found it. Fact. She was over-prescribed SSRIs. Fact. Next fact. Fact. What was in her system, as they said, Rick James may have been a junkie, but he wasn't high as a kite when he died. Right? You know what I'm saying?
Both can be true.
Yeah.
Okay.
And I take you back to the world of funk.
So she may have been in possession of multiple scripts, doctor shopping, and overprescribed.
She was not under the influence at that level when this happened.
So now we get to number four.
Fact.
She's in a U.S. court of law and we're all waiting to see.
Will a jury see a guilty person trying to use postpartum depression and medications as her alibi?
in her defense. And is that going to win? Or are we going to say, sorry, you may have had these things
here, but you are responsible for the death and you are going to suffer these consequences.
People are outside there, and I'm going to take heat from about to say, people out there are
defending her in the name of postpartum depression when they should be calling attention to
postpartum depression so we can get proper treatment for people. They're calling her innocence.
They don't even care about the kids. They don't really care about her, meaning they don't really
know them. They don't know them, but they're
out there in the name of postpartum depression.
It's like the people that were at the Floyd
riots that didn't even know who George Floyd
was, taking advantage of the
situation and levering up. This
is how I see it. I just don't know
how much we know about the human brain.
I don't know. For me, I'm like,
look, I believe in punishment. Whether she
should be in a hospital or jail, I don't know.
That'll be decided.
I just don't think we have the expertise to
really know. I think we're going to find in
20 years, 30 years that we know about the brain,
people have psychotic breaks and we would say, oh, man, she had, she had that thing that we can now
isolate maybe, maybe, which will throw punishment into a whole new realm. I don't know, man.
Well, we've done research on things like CTE and now we know what football players are suffering with.
Adam, go for it. Look, at the end of the day, I just think that people are responsible for their
own actions. There's a lot of people that are going to make excuses. Well, well, it's like,
can we show that picture of the three kids again? Yeah. This mother, murder.
murdered her three kids, indisputable.
Why it happened, where the what happened.
Those were her actions, and she's going to pay the price for that.
And what I'm seeing right now is, and I brought up this book before,
Meta from Mars, Winner for Venus.
You wrote a book about having logic, but also having emotion.
You need both.
But at the end of the day, emotion is all, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel.
like this. You know what's going to happen? The court who's going to use evidence, there's no
feeling. Right. They're going to come in and say, boom, guilty. And then here's my opinion.
All the people who are living in a bizarre world with their feelings, here's what's going to happen.
Luigi Manjone, not a hero. Guilty. Lindsay Clancy, uh, not a nice person. Guilty. Oh,
who killed Charlie Kirk? Yeah, it was actually Tyler Robinson. It wasn't BB.
It wasn't Erica Kirk exposed.
All these ridiculous, I feel, theories are going to get boom, boom, boom, boom, exposed.
That's my opinion.
Yeah.
So to me, this is disturbing to watch.
I cannot even tell you how disturbing this is for me to watch.
I think she deserves a death penalty.
It's not even a question about it.
You know, sometimes you need to make an example of it.
And, you know, some people can call me extreme.
I really couldn't care less what you think if this is extreme.
You do anything to these kids?
they don't deserve something like this.
We got to make an example.
Number two, this guy here, folks, it's so important who you marry.
It is so important who you marry.
Yesterday, Tony Robbins was here a couple days ago.
And Tony and I, you know, Anthony, who does a great job with VT Gen Z,
he chooses the questions.
We never know what questions this guy's going to ask us.
Just so you know, there is no prep.
He just asks you to question.
I'm sure he's going to do something with you afterwards.
You'll see what happens.
What the experience is like.
This story right here has gone viral.
My brother whom gets.
married in two weeks, sent the entire family and hers a group chat saying he is calling off the
wedding because his fiance says she supported Lindsay Clancy on Friday. And if you look at the
tweet, if you want to pull up the tweet, so you're really breaking up with me over an effing opinion,
I'm not breaking up with you over an opinion. I'm breaking up with you because that opinion
showed me a fundamental difference in our values. I can have compassion for someone struggling
mentally without excusing what happened to those children. If I'm choosing someone to potentially be the
mother of my kids, I need to trust their judgment completely, especially when it comes down to
protecting them. What you said created a doubt in me that I can't ignore or gamble my future
I like this dude, bro. Hey, listen, he's just, listen, he's facing the music now because he's going to
face the music later on when half his wealth is on the line. This is, I always say to young people,
man, be ruthless about who you choose as a mate. It's going to make all the difference.
Yeah, we were just talking about the most important decision of your life.
wife when you guys were at the house and we were hanging out what a beautiful great soul chill
understands your personality it was amazing you know when you see somebody marrying the right person
you're just like good for you one the greatest gift she was solid like the one thing about my wife
smart and solid just like her feet were on the ground just grounded human being and psychological by
the way you feel that yes you feel sometimes you meet a guy with going to look oh my I'm going to
wedding one time. And at this wedding, they were doing the, what do you call it? The horror? No,
you know how they stand back to back? Who's the better cook? Who's the better dancer? Who's the better
this? And Jen and I are at this wedding. And it's who wears the pants in the house?
She raised her hands. The lady. And I know this guy's an alpha. Yeah. Cooked. And all I did is I just
looked at his face. My wife would never do that to me. I looked at his face. And you know,
what I saw, I'm like, wow.
Yeah.
He is embarrassed.
He is pissed off.
He is annoyed, but he's acting like he's okay because it's funny and it's not.
Nah.
I got into car, I said, there's no way this is going to work out.
This guy's a man's man.
And he's compromising himself and he knows he's not happy.
By the way, the guy remarried to a beautiful, beautiful girl.
He is so happy.
He's on cloud nine to have a beautiful family.
I hope they have 10 kids together.
Right.
But the wrong girl can destroy.
your life and men have to nowadays, you actually have to, like when you're going through the
interview process of who you marry, believe it or not, if I'm dating a girl today, I would
ask and say, what do you think about this?
Oh, yeah.
These are the case study types of kind of, like, you know, when I'm interviewing guys for
certain jobs, you know what kind of questions I ask?
I ask case study questions.
Let's just say X, Y, you were to happen.
What would you do?
Like, we had a whole COVID, at the beginning of COVID, we had some HR girl.
That was chaotic with the way she would handle it.
It was everything was 10.
Everything that would happen, she would go to 10.
We have to shut down the department.
Everybody go home.
I'm like, bro, relax, buddy.
Relax, buddy.
So then, you know, we started replacing and looking for another HR person.
You know how I would interview?
So, John, let's just say, and employing one of the departments is coughing,
goes and gets tested positive for COVID.
What do you do?
What are your next five moves?
Oh, send everybody home.
Okay, cool.
That's what you would do.
That's the responsible thing to do.
All right, fantastic.
We're not hiring you.
No.
You're too extreme.
What would you do?
Let everybody go back to work and have them come back and work.
You're also extreme.
What do you think we should do?
Well, number one, I would ask that person to not come to the office, take a week out.
This is at the peak of COVID.
Then I would go tell the departments that are there with them,
and I would let them know to go take the test right now.
If they test positive, stay home.
Then I would go to all the other employees one by one by one if they were at all in interaction
with this person during lunch or anything I would say,
if you were, please go take the test.
And then we would go back to business.
That's what I would do.
Thank you for that reasonable answer.
Boys, men, ask these types of questions.
Ladies, you also got to ask some of these types of questions.
Well, the questions are going to come up.
Yeah.
Eventually, you're going to have to face the music.
But if you say she's beautiful, but I love her, Brian.
Oh, God.
But I love her, Brian.
She's so awesome.
She's got a beautiful butt.
I just love the body.
She's got a beautiful face.
Rogan called it.
Rogan called it voodoo panani.
All right, let me get to the next story.
I'm going to go to the next story on what we have here.
Next one to get into is Dolly Parton and Jelly Roll.
Both A-listers, two different approaches, and I want to show you both them.
Let's start off with Dolly Parton.
Obviously, legend lost her.
I remember listening to Jolene in Iran.
I don't know if you guys remember the Jolene in Iran.
One of the greatest songs.
I played it for the kids yesterday.
Covered by the white stripes, too.
Was it really?
Oh, yeah.
I didn't know that.
Amazing.
Jack White.
Jack White sings that song.
I didn't know that.
His best song has ever sung.
So anyway, so.
Dolly Parton, everybody's like, well, she was this and she was that and she was that.
I just want to show you a clip.
This is when Dolly Parton was asked about Donald Trump to criticize, the media was trying to get her to criticize,
and look at the way she handled herself.
Go for it.
I just don't get into that.
And so if you are deciding you may want to ask me something more serious, don't because I'm not going to answer it.
Smart.
You have a president of the United States who said those things on that bus.
I'm not addressing that.
I do not get into that.
Of course I have my opinion about everybody and everything.
But I learned a long time ago,
keep your damn mouth shut if you want to stay in show business.
I'm not in politics.
I'm in telling her.
She is disciplined.
Yes, I am.
That's why I don't talk about people.
She was all, she was, you know how prolific songwriter she was?
Do you know how special an artist this human being was?
She wrote songs, any musician will tell you,
they are in awe of her ability to write songs.
She's been writing songs since she came up so poor.
I think she came up in the coal mines.
I mean, they had no money.
None of them did.
And she, I think she came from a family of, see how many kids were in her family, seven.
I think.
But this gal from such an early age literally said, I'm going to be a songwriter.
I'm going to be a singer.
And she is a special talent.
Like I'm talking, Patrick, I'm talking about the kind of songwriter.
11.
11.
11 kids.
Six brothers, five sisters.
Came from nothing.
All they had was Jesus.
I love that.
They had Jesus.
And they had...
Are you joking or are you being serious?
I'm not joking.
They had Jesus. They had a small church that they would go to.
And that's how she came up with those iron fast values.
And all she said is, I'm going to create my way out of this problem.
She became one of the great American songwriters that so many other artists cover.
Take a look at all the other songs.
She's written for other artists.
It's astonishing.
And kept her class.
Donald Trump said the greatest thing.
Total Trumpian answer.
He goes, she liked me.
That was his eulogy.
Yeah, she liked me.
But she was a special soul man.
I saw something on social yesterday.
You prompted this thought about the song,
I will always love you.
So check this out.
One of the greatest business decision in music history ever,
and the song was, I will always love you.
Dolly Parton wrote in 1973, Vinny.
To disvalidates what he's saying.
As a farewell to her longtime music partner mentor, Porter Wagner,
she wasn't writing a romantic breakup.
She was telling Wagner, essentially, I love and appreciate you,
but I need to leave and build my own career.
Her recording reached number one in the country in 1974.
Then Elvis reaches out and wanted to record it.
Dolly was ecstatic.
This is Elvis.
It's 1973.
Elvis had apparently already worked up his version,
and Dolly was invited to attend the recording session, Vinnie.
But the day before the session, Elvis's manager, you know, the famous Colonel Tom Parker, yeah.
Call Dolly with a condition. Elvis generally wouldn't record a song unless his side received publishing rights.
And in this case, at least 50% of the publishing.
Dolly refused.
That was incredibly difficult because having Elvis record your song in the 70s could transform a songwriter's career.
Dolly later said, she cried all night because she desperately wanted to hear Elvis.
always sing it.
Wow.
What a, what a, what a, what a business mind.
That's right.
The long-term thinking.
Considered the song, one of the most valuable copyrights in her publishing company and
wanted to preserve it for herself.
And then comes the incredible payoff.
20 years later, Whitney Houston in the movie Bodyguard in 1999.
Crushed it.
Her version became an absolute amount.
14 weeks at number one on Billboard Hot 100.
It eventually sold 20 million copies.
What?
Oh, that's so much.
one of the most successful singles ever recorded by female artists. Dali still owned the publishing
rights till the day. Think about how amazing she had. That was so unheard of back then?
Wow. So for a female, for a female. And by the way, 1973, how old is she in 73? That's 53 years, right? Yeah. So she died at 80.
She died, 27 years old. Wow. By the way, Elvis died a year later. I think Elvis died in 74.
Yeah, he did. What year did? What year?
Is it 74? Or was it 77?
Can you type what your Elvis died?
I think it was 1970.
77. You're right. He died 77. Yeah, pretty wild.
So to piggyback of Bride, so 14 people in the family lived in a one-roon cabin in Smoky Mountains.
The cabin had no electricity, no indoor plumbing.
For her childhood, they had to use the outhouse. They drew water.
All the children shared beds.
And she told stories about the family sometimes paying doctors with food, including a sack of cornmeal after her birth.
Her mother had the first child at 15 years old.
she tells a great story about her mother crying because she couldn't get she she had to give all the
they had little grab bags at church during Christmas and her mom didn't get one and she saw her mom
crying and she said I'll give you my mommy she her mother just suffered long suffering woman but she loved
her mother so much she's telling a story and crying over it I love her by the way she's gorgeous
she's beautiful she's as America is apple pie look at her and she's the best America has to offer
it that's you want to talk about a story about potential it's beautiful
Yeah, seriously, look at that picture right there, Vinnie.
It's like Anna Nicole Smith without all the, she's gorgeous.
With a sense of humor, too.
With a sense of humor and personality.
Let me tell you something about Dali Pardon.
I think she's the last of her kind.
And I, because I think the political landscape has changed so much.
A lot of what we're talking about is that she was apolitical.
You know that she turned down the Medal of Freedom three times?
She goes, I don't even want to go to the White House.
I don't even want to deal with this.
One of my favorite quotes that she said, she goes,
listen, I made a lot of money, but I don't count my money.
I count my blessings.
And I praise the Lord above.
I was like, where you go, Dolly?
With your bad self.
But let me tell you.
She's stay close to God, bro.
Of course.
Like for real.
Let me tell you who the exact opposite of Dolly Pardon is.
And I'll give you a reason why.
Is this guy Jelly Roll?
Now you can make the argument that it's literally Taylor Swift,
who's basically a band at her country base to go pop culture.
But this guy Jelly Roll.
He's the best.
He's my friend.
Well, now he's about to be the worst homeboy.
No, dude.
He's awesome.
Let me give you my theory.
Go on.
And let me tell you why.
Did you see him on Kimmel?
Yes, so what?
He made some jokes about President Trump.
Okay.
If you can't criticize your president, you're not an American.
You can criticize Trump all you want, but let me tell you something, buddy.
Let me tell you, Dolly Parton, I'm going to use a drink joke right here.
You could use this in your set.
Dolly Parton aged like a fine.
Tonight, Miami, Improv.
Tomorrow, Miami, Brian.
Sunday, Miami, and Brown.
Adams jokes going through Brian.
Stick my jokes.
Dolly Parton.
You know, it's great that Adam.
thinks very highly of himself with his ability with jokes.
You have to respect.
This isn't a joke.
It's truth.
I love that.
Here's what I want to say about Dolly and your boy, Jelly Roll.
I don't know Jelly Roll like that.
I don't know.
I guess he's got some songs, whatever, but I've done some research.
Dolly Harton aged like a fine wine, gracefully, beautiful, likable.
This guy, Jelly Roll, he is the country version of Bud Light.
You're out of your mind.
What do I mean?
He's abandoned his fans.
and his bass and the country music that loves Trump
to appease the Jimmy Kimmel audience?
Did we not learn the lesson from Bud Light?
Adam, he's joking. He's making a joke.
Okay. You know what I'm saying?
No, no, I don't think he's...
Hang on. Play the clip. So here's what it is.
And folks, let's run a poll. Hang on.
Let's run a poll and say,
when too far, everything's on the line.
Nothing wrong with his joke. Just simple. Those two. Go for it.
Well, Mr. President, from one fat pig to another,
take it from me that physical fitness is very important.
And trust me, you'll be happy to see your penis again.
You think that's a good joke, Brian?
I do.
Look, your cop.
Let's see what the audience says.
Let's let him finish.
You know, the first time I've seen mine recently,
I was surprised at how cute it was.
It kind of looked like a little Laboo doll.
First of all, somebody wrote that for him.
You should not laugh that hard with my penis.
So you, wait, wait, hold on.
So a couple things about jelly roll.
Have the other clip the next day.
We'll come to it.
And somebody who knows him and I know a lot of people that spend a lot of time on them.
There's no better person.
He's the nicest human being.
I mean, just look at him.
He looks like a great guy.
He's so talented.
Adam, Adam, you're so off on this.
I can't tell you.
You couldn't be more off.
The last guy you want to go about on his jelly roll,
he is such a generous, incredible human being.
So talented.
And he was that way before he was famous.
And he's that way now.
I'm just telling you, somebody who knows him, I can't defend him more.
He made one joke about Donald Trump.
He said, as one fat big to another.
So he's being self-deprecating.
You're that sensitive about Donald Trump.
You're protecting Donald Trump?
I'm actually not protecting Donald Trump at all.
I'm calling Jelly Roll the Bud Light.
I'm not criticized.
I haven't criticized him once.
I'm criticizing his decisions.
I don't know anything about it.
Let me do this.
Hang on.
Let me play the clip and then go.
So this is the next day, because he did it twice.
So he got all this pushback from MAGA voters
who were not happy about his joke
and then here's what he said the next day.
Go for it.
What a turn of events.
Who would have guessed I'd get in more trouble
with the president of Rosie O'Donnell?
I love you, Rosie.
Thanks for having my back today, baby.
Some folks online were upset
that I didn't treat the president
with reverence and dignity.
But I want to remind y'all
that I go by the name, Jelly Roll.
I don't even treat myself with reverence and dignity.
One day I looked in the mirror and said,
You, my friend, are a pastry.
Frankly, I think most people were just surprised that I had any opinions at all.
They see a guy that looks like me and assume the only opinion I have is whether I prefer my meth crystal or classic.
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Note about him for a second.
Did he make the comment about, I don't really care what you think?
Now, let's be honest for a second.
Any U.S. president should be able to handle a few jokes, right?
Yes.
They should also be able to handle gas prices, health care, and the occasional international conflict.
y'all, I get it that some people are mad at me for goofing on Trump.
But if you wanted me to make jokes about Kamala Harris, you should have voted for.
Not about jokes.
I think you're blinded by your friendship with him.
I don't know him at all.
And I'm just being hit-ass on it.
Hold on, hold on.
How well do you know him?
I know him well enough.
I've known him for years.
But the average person doesn't know him at all.
So your personal opinion, frankly, my friend.
So where are you at, though?
Tell me what?
Because your tiebreaker is going to be Vinny.
Okay, in a minute.
So Vinny, a lot of pressure on you, and I hope you stick to your bones.
One caveat.
One caveat.
Oh, I'm already right.
He loves stand-up.
So Jelly's always loved stand-up.
So he would come to stand-up like when I was.
I'm sure he's a great guy.
The bottom lies, he loves stand-up.
So he's probably nervous.
Somebody wrote these jokes.
He's trying to do stuff.
All I see is a guy actually making good jokes,
making fun of himself, saying something that is not at all politically charged,
even a little bit. I love that he's making fun of Trump.
I love that comedians make fun of comedians.
This makes me want to make, yeah.
So this is the part. This is the part I want you to listen to. Go forward.
Those who threatened to stop listening to my music based on my comments last night,
I just want to say with conviction, go right ahead, because I'm going to keep speaking my truth
or my name isn't Post Malone.
All right, go ahead.
It's great.
I'll give the disclaimer.
I'm sure he's been through some stuff.
Seems like a great guy, lost a lot of weight.
This is zero personal.
I'm calculating the business decision.
You went on Jimmy Kimmel.
You're saying it's a bad decision.
Horrible business decision.
I'm with horrible business decision.
And let me explain why,
because you think that I'm attacking him.
I'm attacking his decisions.
And this is the reason that I call Jelly Roll,
the bud light of country music,
is because he's abandoned his base.
What percent of his base do you think is country,
uh, literally country, country music, Trump, MAGA.
I would say,
80, 90% for a Jimmy Kimmel woke audience.
And it wasn't just the bad that Jimmy Kimmel took a night off.
They had Rosie Frickin O'Donnell the night before.
So you're basically saying, I'm going to make a business decision.
I'm going to abandon my country base and I'm going to go after Kimmel's audience.
And just like Bud Light, your base is going to be like, you know what, jelly roll?
And that's what's going to happen.
And you know what?
I think you're speaking.
All of a sudden.
All of a sudden.
I think if you were his agent, I'd be listening to you.
Yeah, that's my point.
And that's the case.
Like, see, and this is, this is why you know him from personal experience.
And I've seen clips of him and how he treats fans.
And I think it's awesome.
But the, oh, yeah, and I don't doubt that at all.
I don't even think he's political either.
I don't think so because, by the thing, he's met and hung up and talked with Trump at the, when the UFC fights.
I know he's recently divorced and all that and, you know, put all that aside.
But as a business decision, I think he's right because why would anybody, like, think about the Jimmy Kimmel show.
Jimmy Kimmel is one of the most tedious gone people.
me, behind every
liberal Trump hating man
is a liberal wife because he's a
beta and she's in charge. You know who's the head
writer of his show? Who? Jimmy Kimmel's
wife. Is that true? She's the writer.
Google. Connor, look up, who's the head writer?
I think what you're saying, and it makes sense, what you're
saying is that if you're going to go on
a show like Jimmy Kimmel
who clearly has deep animosity
to Trump and is very
Hollywood, and we watched
him go from being a bro and actually funny
to be in this thing that it's like,
Because think about this,
but like, go woke, go broke,
Molly, he went woke.
Molly McNerney is the Cole head writer, bro.
That's why the show is losing.
And I just feel like, and like you said,
as an agent, as a decision,
it went from Jimmy Kimmel to Rosie O'Donnell.
Why would they even let somebody come up there?
It's not, it's not going to do anything
but hurt your career because your country,
the country loves the majority of these people
are Trump people.
Why would you go on there?
And it's a joke.
I'm a comedian.
It's a joke.
I get it.
Why would you,
why would you as an agent,
let him go on there and crap his fan base?
Because when you get to Hollywood,
it is a very seductive thing.
Here it is.
And this is what it is.
And there's money and there's about to lose money.
He's been struggling his whole life.
Like, like,
there's a lot that goes on.
And I think...
He sold out.
Just say he sold out.
Well, I think what he did was,
I don't even think he thinks that way.
I think he's just a guy who wants to make everybody happy.
He's just such a good...
I think to your point, though, as his agent, I think you'd be like, I think, I think the agent,
Brian, if they had James Carville, like, hey, I hate Trump, okay, good job, another
I know we want to move on, I'm an agent.
Someone should have been like, what you just said.
Thank you.
I'm now, I'm now.
Thank you.
As his business manager, I'm going, hey, hey, hey, I think we choose another show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go host Conan.
Let me go to the next.
By the way, real quick, who do you think he voted for, Trump or Kamala?
Jellyball?
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Trump, but I don't think he voted for Trump.
Yeah.
That's my point.
I'm speculating that he probably voted for Trump.
He's going to lose money.
For Hollywood fame, he just abandoned.
Let's go, bro. Let's go.
It's not that important.
Okay.
You made a joke, great jelly roll.
Go do your thing and, you know, just be aware that you also have a lot of loyal people on the other side.
I think he did an interview with somebody that afterwards you're like, you just fell in love with the guy.
Like I message him.
I'm like, what a freaking great interview you did in any message back in.
Such a card.
But, you know, listen, you have to be careful.
This is a very weird space that you're maneuvering through.
Like, I remember one time the Rock did that one video,
where are you?
Where are you?
And he was voting for Biden, and he was calling out Trump.
And I'm like, that's a weird video.
And then he's like, dude, I'm not doing any of this political bullshit again, moving forward.
He learned from his mistake, and he stepped away.
And by the way, Rock is probably, you know what I'm saying?
He's probably a conservative.
He's straight.
Let's just leave it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I'm just saying he's probably straight.
All right, let's go to the next story.
Next one I'm going to get into is a story about dad brain.
And then I'm going to go to the presidential ranking of Trump, Piker, Cuban, Kalshi,
and we'll do the outcast video, which you guys got to see.
But let me go to this dad brain story, which I read the other day.
I'm like, it's actually a very interesting story.
This is a story of what happens to men when they become fathers, okay?
What happens to men when they become fathers?
I mean, obviously none of that is happening right now.
There are three fathers, see, and two that are probably eventually going to be one, God willing.
But here's what this book says.
Dad brain, new science of fatherhood, and how it shapens men's lives by Kevin McGuire.
He says, number one, male brain changes with fatherhood.
Men experience measurable neurological changes when they become actively involved fathers.
Brain systems associated with empathy, vigilance, attachment, planning, and caregiving become more engaged.
In other words, nurturing isn't exclusively a maternal biology.
Fathers, men become nurturing and protected.
Number two, hormones change.
Fatherhood can alter testosterone, oxycodone, crystal, cortisol, and other hormones.
Testosterone often declined somewhat highly involved fathers while bonding-related systems become more active.
these changes may shift men from competition and mating toward protection and caregiving.
Huh.
All right.
Three, involvement matters.
Simply having a child isn't a whole story.
The more time a father spends holding, feeding, comforting, playing with teaching and caring for the child,
the more those caregiving systems are reinforced.
Fatherhood is partly biological, but it's also somewhat meant protecting practice themselves into.
Children change fathers, and fathers change children.
The relationship works in both direction.
Children influence their fathers' brains and behavior while engaged fathers
can influence children's emotional regulation confidence, social development risk-taking.
Number five, fatherhood reshapes identity.
Many men experience a profound transition from thinking primarily about themselves
and their ambitions to thinking about legacy responsibility protection.
And meaning six, fathers struggle two.
New fathers can experience anxiety.
Depression, isolation, relationship stress, sleep deprivation, and feeling up inadequacy.
And alas, but at least, there isn't one correct way to father.
The science challenges the stereotype that fathers must behave like mothers to be valuable.
Fathers can bring different form of play, challenge, exploration, discipline, humor and calculated risk that can complement maternal parenting.
Tom, do you agree with this?
Well, he's claiming he's got a study.
He's claiming he's really dove into it.
So I don't want to challenge his data, and I'm not going to it, but I will say this.
You know, once you have kids, there is a sense of protection.
You're more aware, I think, of the things that are going on in the world, especially with girls.
And so is that a chemical change in my brain or is that a natural, just in the natural response to me going from being a guy to being a husband to being a father biologically to being a dad in all senses of the word?
and so being protected.
In motorsports, it's really classy.
It's classic.
They will say that when a guy loses a couple tents or he loses a little guts,
they'll say, well, the phone rang.
He's a dad now.
He's not racing the way he did when he was 28 before his kids were born.
Formula One drivers have said that about each other and says,
I can take a little bit of different chance here, not suicidal, but I don't think he will
because now that he's got kids, he's become a slight,
different driver. And so I see it through those lenses because I'm familiar with that sport quite a lot.
And I have seen it. And the drivers deny it. I'm the same guy I was. I'm just a competitive I want.
And people say in certain circumstances, maybe, maybe not. But I think there is a change.
Can I validate that it's a chemical change and everything that happened to me? I don't think so.
But I'm more protective, aware, and I wanted to be a great dad and make sure that I was there
and provided education. And so there's different things I was thinking.
about that I never even considered when I was merely a husband or even before before I was married,
but I was an uncle. Yeah. And by the way, the story you're talking about is of Alonzo was going
up against Schumacher and he said, I knew I would overtake him. I knew he would break because he
has a wife and two kids at home. Damn. That's true though. Because what happens is when you have
children, I got four kids, your provider protector, part of your brain takes over all the other
stuff. So I was with a bunch of guys, just
guys who were kind of single,
40, and just talking
about all the, just the life.
And I thought to myself, there's none of that in my
brain. All I'm constantly thinking about is
I got the 2 year old, 4 year old, I got
the 15 year old, got the 18 year old in college.
So I'm so consumed
with all of that stuff.
I got to make sure they're okay.
That's a lot of planning.
It just dawned on me that I don't even think about
that stuff anymore. I lost all my
mojo, but I'm happy I did.
In a way, I think there's something beautiful and very, very, the best thing in a lot of ways,
I never thought I'd say this, is that when you're a father, you are 100% in a position of service.
If you're a husband and a wife, I mean, I'm sorry, if you're a father and a husband,
you're basically, it's all about service.
But that takes a lot of pressure off you in a weird way.
Adam, thoughts.
Look, I don't have dad brain.
I'm just trying to avoid dad bod at this point, but one day, maybe.
Let's just say I'm taking notes.
Adam's got this town locked down.
He's never come to my show where he didn't have.
There was a very colorful group of people and they were all very fun to look at,
almost all female.
So whatever he's doing is.
Oh, no, I think it's interesting.
I mean, I know how I am just around my nieces and my nephews and that feeling of,
like, I don't know because I'm not a father, but I feel that sense of urgency,
the protection, even when I'm around Pat's kids or Tom's kids.
You're great with kids.
It's like, oh, I love them.
And I love them.
And because I, I, you know, see them and I see the beauty and I see God and all of them because they're so freaking amazing.
They haven't been corrupted by anything yet.
It's just play.
And they have that light.
And they're literally angels.
So that's what, you know, when I hear stories about Clancy, which drive me crazy.
But I, I could see how it turns from like, you're that guy, the 40-year-old guy to like, oh, my God, everything now is focused on this.
Do you remember Magnolia, that movie?
Tom Paul Thomas Sanderson.
Yes.
And what's his name?
The character says,
it is not a mistake to confuse angels with children.
Was it Phillips?
It's so beautiful.
No,
it was the other guy.
I know you're talking.
The guy on whatever it's called,
but it was such a powerful move.
It's like, it's true.
He had braces on.
I know you're talking about.
Angels and children are kind of the same thing.
By the way, you know, it is very true.
But I want to show you this clip because go for,
play this clip.
This is the moment.
Driver in F1.
And in 2005, he would say something that is still remembered to this day.
And you won't believe what it was about.
It was 20 years ago at the Japanese Grand Prix, where Alonzo started 16th and had 59 laps to get into the points to secure Renault the Constructors' Championship title.
In lap 18, he was behind the Ferrari of Michael Schumacher, and he had his eyes on the seven-time world champion.
At the apex Alonzo's Renaultz R-25 reached 340 kilometers an hour.
And Schumacher, the biggest bully on the goal.
grid at the time was slaughtered by a young
driver. After the race, Alonzo was
asked about how he managed to overtake
Schumacher and all he said was, I knew
he would break because he has a wife and two
kids at home. Damn.
So true.
By the way, that's at the track called Suzuki
and it's the 130R corner
which is one of the most
ferocious corners in F1
history. Yeah, so this is like to be able to do that
at that moment, he's not going to take that kind of risk. Oh, no.
He's already got the seven championships and all that other
stuff. But I think, you know,
When my dad would say, you've changed, you've changed.
So what do you mean I've changed?
Kids are changing you, you've changed, you've changed.
They are literally going to change you.
And people are going to see you.
And boys change you in a different way than girls change you.
I got two boys, two girls.
They're going to change you.
And it's a beautiful thing that happens.
And it's a show for everybody around you that they see you go through it.
It's entertainment for the people around you that witnessed this reality,
taking place. All right, let me get to the next story. By the way, how do the boys change you
versus the girls change you? Listen, you know, I'm writing a book right now on fatherhood.
You know, we don't know when it's going to come out next year, two years, three years,
but one of the things is that every one of us, men especially, as you age, you're trying
to be a man, but you're a 46-year-old still acting like a little boy, and you don't even know it.
your selfish score is super high.
You're 32 years old and you're still thinking about it,
but I don't want to give up the party,
but I don't want to give up this.
And you're still the boy of Dutch knock,
you better to you.
You still have all this boy tendencies.
Let me tell you, when you have a boy,
they're either gonna force it out of you
or you will be exposed.
You don't have a choice.
You will be exposed.
People are going to see that you're either going to become a man.
So imagine like you were a 16-year-old boy,
you're a 27-year-old boy, man, you're a 35-year-old man,
but maybe at 17-year-old you were 90% boy, 10% man.
Maybe at 28 years old, you're 70% boy, 30% man.
Maybe at 36-year-old, at 40% boy, 60% man.
But even that 40%, it'll be forced out of you.
Because you're like, you're giving kids advice on what to do
and you're not even listen to yourself.
You're like, wait a minute.
How are you trying to shape somebody else when you're hypocrite?
So you're constantly going to be pressured with hypocrisy of your own self.
And that's like, yeah, but I'm different, but let me tell you.
But he's got to learn from the mistakes.
And I'm not accountable to it, but it's for him because I want him.
But I can get away with these.
No, you can, bro.
It is going to, it is going to just go bam, bam, bam, bam.
And you're either going to say, you know what?
I don't want to give up being a boy or no, man, I want to be a man.
You're going to go through it.
None of us are free from it.
How did the girl change you?
Oh, it's like glass.
It's like crystal.
It's like weight, delicate.
Like we went to a restaurant the other day,
and I said this story a little bit.
Senna says, that man is looking at me to mom.
Mom whispers it to me that when she went to the bathroom,
a guy was looking at it.
I said, wait, what, babe?
She's 10 years old.
Who was it?
But babe, don't do anything, but it's that guy right there.
So all of a sudden, me, Moral, Tekron, and Vinny,
we're all looking at him like this.
The Assyrian mafia.
This guy looks at us and he's like,
why are these guys looking at me like that?
And we're just like this.
Everybody, for like, when I tell you
we're looking at him like this for a good minute,
he's sitting there.
And the people he's sitting across,
probably 55 years old, they start looking at us.
And I'm trying to get a, and he was a sketchy guy.
How far away are they from you?
10 yards.
Sketchy guy.
And I'm looking at him.
And then sent him.
comes to me and says,
Dad, it's probably nothing.
He's probably just a fan.
And, you know, he's probably just, I said,
no, no, babe, no,
no 25-year-old looks at a 10-year-old for that long.
So the entire time, every move the girl's made,
going to the bathroom, so Vinny's going with them.
And we're always strapped, like we're ready if something happens.
But, you know, you become overly, overly protected.
Interesting.
Over.
You think you have imagination?
Until you have a daughter.
when you have a daughter
your imagination of what
you can do to a man that harms your daughter
you will realize how creative we are
and by the way when they turn
teenagers they want to get away from you
they hate you
you're just like what I do
what about like the positive attributes of that
like you'll kill somebody
you're gonna be
you realize how gentle
you have to be with these people
it's gonna it's gonna force you
to become gentle and
But also you just have to realize, you know, what you did to some girls, other boys are going to do to your girls too.
That's it, dude.
I got to go.
That's it.
Bro.
And you know.
So it's like, boys are easier because you can, my joke, but it's true is like, boys are easier because I can, I can keep them in line because I can threaten them with violence.
It's like, you don't want to do that.
How about, would you rather die?
He's right.
I can't do that with my daughter.
As much as he's joking.
It's real.
My daughter, six years old, game the system.
She knew I couldn't do it.
She knew I'd be like,
And she'd be like, no.
And I'm like, I'd go to her mother.
I'd be like, you deal with it.
I can't freak out.
If you can't hit her.
You freak out.
I would just, there's nothing you can do.
You got to just figure out.
You got to manipulate.
You got to figure it out.
Boys, they're afraid of you.
My daughter wasn't afraid of me.
She was like, there you go.
Well, listen, one day, if it ever happens, you, you will tell us how you're changing
and we'll watch it.
All right.
Next story I want to get to is the president yesterday decides to post a tweet of the greatest presidents
of all time.
And a market loses their shit.
He's so hilarious, man.
He puts himself as the greatest at the top.
Of course.
Can he zoom in a little bit?
Look at his face.
And then he puts great.
He puts great as Lincoln go a little bit.
Can you, oh, you can't zoom.
Okay.
Great.
He puts Lincoln, Washington, FDR, and all these other, you know, Wilson, Jefferson, whatever.
Okay.
So then average.
Jackson, Jackson.
He puts Bill Clinton.
He puts all these other guys.
And then below average, he puts all these other guys.
and then failures.
Biden, Obama,
I think Carter's got to be somewhere there at the end.
He is, he is.
He's right there.
Grant and all these other guys that's failures.
Ulysses S. Grant.
Ulysses S. Graham was not a good president.
He was a good general, but he was VP of Lincoln.
I think he was the replacement that came two terms after Lincoln because he fought for him.
He went and won the war for him.
Amazing.
So now everybody watches.
They're like, wait a minute.
You're missing Reagan.
Where is Reagan?
So is Reagan average?
Is Reagan average?
It's enough. Is he this? Is he that? And people don't realize this is actually an article that was from 1948, okay, that he took and he put great, near great, average failures.
But he took that additional failures and he added Obama and Biden and Carter. Carter. So good. But the funny thing is, Mr. President, how do you not add Reagan as great? Come on all.
You messed up on that. How do you not add Reagan as great?
And I know one time he was, I don't know which press conference it was.
He says, listen, nude, a lot of people say, you know, greatest.
Says, no, Mr. President, you're not yet the greatest.
I don't know if you guys ever seen this exchange.
Have you seen it?
No.
With Newt Gingrich?
It's phenomenal.
I don't know.
You got to look for it.
You got to find it.
You got to find it.
And what were they talking about?
They're literally on stage.
And it's like a press conference.
It's Newton and Trump or Newt?
Newt Gingrich and Trump.
This is like two years ago.
Oh, this is recent.
This is recent.
18 months ago.
It says, no, sir, you're not the greatest.
But, you know, you could get there.
It's like, I don't know.
I don't know if I agree with them.
So it's such a funny exchange.
Come on, guys.
This is so important to him.
So how do you process this?
How do you process when he's needed?
Well, first of all, who brought this to him?
Because that means, yeah, he's probably sitting around going, I'm the best.
And somebody goes, you know what, Mr. President?
There was a historians rate that they rated the U.S. presidents.
Because then if you think about it, too, because of everything,
where would you put Reagan?
I don't think it would fit inside.
I think he would be great.
Yeah, but what I'm saying?
Leaving him out was probably on purpose.
Look, this guy, people have a lot of criticisms.
There is a certain genius to Trump.
One is his ability to distract people from what's really going on.
And two, he's just funny, man.
He just comes up with funny stuff.
Say what you will.
But as far as being a politician and being somebody who can gobble up all the airtime,
all of it.
Well, guys, can we go back to the new list, not the 1948 list?
There you go.
How many did he add other than himself?
Just three at the bottom.
So funny.
Oh, and Clinton.
Yeah.
So there's a story here.
He actually respects Clinton.
He does.
Yeah, I mean, he's basically saying, listen, you're not the worst.
He often says there's a president that calls me and we talk a lot.
And he's talking about Clinton.
I think there's a respect for Clinton.
Now, don't get me started on when he brought the three sexual harassment lady charges,
The debate, Bill Clinton looked like he saw a ghost.
But Obama, Biden, and of course he puts your boy Jimmy Carter in there.
A lot of this is what we're dealing with in Iran, let's be frank, is because of Jimmy Carter's
fecklessness and his weak approach to Iran.
So Trump is in basically dealing with Jimmy Carter's mess right now.
That's my say on this.
Yeah, by the way, I found a clip, but it's it's an hour that we have to go through.
But we got the time, people.
No, no, we don't have the time.
But it's a very, very funny clip.
Cancel your show.
Of them having a conversation about it.
All right, let me get to the next story.
Next story is, what's this guy that was on Jesse Waters?
I keep messing up his name.
I'm not doing it on purpose.
Abdul Al-Salai-F.
Abdul-A-Sayef or Al-Sayette.
He said, don't say my name if you don't know my last.
He is on Jesse Waters, and they're having a cordial conversation
until all of a sudden he asks if Jesse Waters is circumcised,
which is kind of weird.
We don't ask that question every day.
You know, it's not, we go around St. Vinio, you just don't do that.
But it happened here.
Thursday.
Watch this clip. Go for it.
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Look, you know, I remember having great conversations with my conservative friends about right to try legislation.
The idea that the government shouldn't tell you what kind of health care you should have.
I just think the government shouldn't tell you what kind of health care you should have.
And if you're a minor, it's between you, your doctor and your parents.
Now, if you disagree with that, if you disagree with that, if you disagree that, if you disagree that health care decisions need to be made by a doctor and their parents and a patient, then I just think we agree to disagree.
But, you know, you want to put government inside a clinic or a hospital, selectively.
I am.
So you think it's okay for a parent to slashes kids stinging off?
You think that's okay?
I mean, do you, so do you really want to have this conversation? Are you circumcised?
Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, that's a personal question. Okay. Doctor. So you probably should want to move on. You probably should want to move on.
It's circumcision's different than castration. I think it's a problem. It's a problem that you think that you get to decide what happens between a parent, a doctor, and a patient. And I'm just saying that, yes, circumcision is surgery on a kid's dinghling. So you really want to bring that up. You can.
Watch the whole thing.
I think it's all this.
It was all this.
I feel dumber after that conversation.
So how do you feel about it?
I'll come to you first.
How do you feel about it?
I mean, do I think that minors should have life-altering sexual surgery?
Absolutely not.
Do I think it's actually evil?
I do.
I feel that strongly about it.
Do I think, do I, if somebody wants to be transgender as an adult?
Yeah, you want me to call you something?
Sure, if you're great at your job, I'll probably hire you.
But children, like, hey, hey, listen now.
Children's brains are changed.
question. What do you think are the chances that he 100% believe that does not, you know,
that there's no way a young child should be able to transition. What is core to the core?
You know what I think about this guy? What? I'll say it. I actually think, I think he's Syrian.
I think he's, I think he's a cap. I think he's a capitalist. I think he's made a lot of money
in the marketplace. I think at the end of the day, he's probably way more moderate than people think.
but if you're going to get the base,
you've got to dance around these issues
that the hardcore left
with all that energy supports.
So when you're in politics,
he's stuck in this thing.
I guarantee the guy, if you ask him,
I guarantee him private.
He's like, what?
Surgery for minors?
No, he feels very actually normal to me,
but he's being cast as this far left socialist.
He even said, he goes, I'm a capitalist.
Hassam Piker said that he,
this guy right here.
It's faking moderation
just to manipulate people.
This is Asam Piker.
I don't know if you have this story or not.
And by the way, him and Piker
have taken selfies together, pictures together.
They're actually friends.
So it's not like it's an enemy.
But is this the one?
Go ahead.
Go forward.
There are going to be a lot of people
who are already questioning
Abdel al-Sayed's
sincerity on these issues
that will then turn around
and say, oh, he's, you know,
he's moderating his position on Israel, all the stuff.
I don't think he is.
Okay?
I will say this.
I am literally the person that is being dangled.
And I'm going to tell you once again,
he's not moderating on his perspective on Israel or anything like that.
Okay?
His reaction to this is always very good,
which is, look, I deal with people that I don't fully agree with
and don't fully subscribe to on a daily basis.
This is politics.
Politics is about addition, not subtract.
at a point where he says that?
It's smart.
It's the right way to deal with it
and then deflect back to the issues
because they are the ones
who are engaging in the deflection.
Okay.
Okay, so you're saying he said in the beginning
that he's just deflecting.
Is that what you're saying?
Is that kind of how you guys process this?
He is saying that he's deflecting.
He's saying he's there.
And what pages that story on?
I'm going to see 12 and 13,
page 12 and 13 where he says,
Assam Piker Bragg.
So this is Daily Wire.
That is faking moderation.
to scam voters. Okay, so maybe they're exaggerating the words and what he said.
Twitter's streaming. I'm like this. I'm the only person. I'm literally the person that is
being dangled. And I'm going to tell you once again, he's not moderating on his perspective.
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Schulton said. El Cite.
shoot a statement that nobody speaks for his campaign beside me, but refuse to drop Piker,
calling his infamous America, deserve 9-11 remark, just a dumb statement.
Republican Mike Rogers, Abdul attempt at distancing himself from the violent and hateful rhetoric
is the epitome of what a conman does. Tom, where are you at with this?
I'd say where I'm at.
And you said something.
You said he was appealing to the base.
I agree with you, but I like to change the word, the block.
The block.
Because the big tent has got a bunch of voting blocks in it.
And this shows you how the law.
liberal Democrat big tent makes you look so crazy because you go on interviews and you say things
because you're trying to pander or protect each of the voting blocks you've got.
And you've got a bunch of voting blocks that are that are in the same cardboard box, right?
So let's see.
We'll put a pit bull puppy in with a couple kittens.
Probably going to be fine.
That's what's happening.
And I actually believe what Hassan Piker is saying.
he's saying, yeah, he's moderating himself to do this or that.
I think he's right.
I don't think this, El Sayed, I don't think he's sincere.
I do not think we saw that.
It was a weird, look how kind of cumbersome the interview was with Jesse.
I'm not buying it, Pat.
I'm not buying it at all.
I think he was pandering to individual blocks,
and he is who he has previously said he is,
and it shows you the lunacy of the big tent.
Because when you're in the big tent,
And you're the, you can't go in and say, I believe in liberty, capitalism, freedom.
I'm a Christian, and I believe that life is precious, and that's the foundation of which I stand.
You can find all of my feelings about taxes, about federalism, everything growing out of that platform.
You can't.
When you're in the big tent, you put all these, I've got cactus flowers, rocks, and grass.
It's like, it doesn't work.
It doesn't work at all, and I think that's what we're seeing here.
we're even having trouble decoding it.
Imagine how they feel back with.
How do you do?
Well, you hit these talking points, but not those talking points.
Pat, can you see how troubling this would be?
How would you, as a Democrat strategist, coach him, say, yeah, that's great.
Do the same thing tomorrow on Rogan.
So you're saying this dude, he's Abdul al-Sayyad, he's a Muslim dude.
So you mean to tell me he's concealing or denying stuff that he actually believes in?
It sounds like something about the idea.
I know you're being sarcastic.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Because, bro, he's a Muslim.
The first answer should have been no.
Do you believe it's good for underage kids
to get their genitalia cut off or their breast cut off?
It's a simple no.
Because I don't know if you guys know there's...
Most Muslims think no, right?
Overwhelming, bro, if you, like, in the LGBTQ community, bro,
all these guys that are pushing, like the mom don't, Brian,
in the Muslim community, you would get freaking outcasts
if they don't kill you, especially you in the Middle East.
So this whole, yeah, guess what?
You think he'd let his kids be, hold on, any gay kids or chop off their genitalia?
Are you absolutely nuts?
This is a movement, bro, I'm telling you right now, when they are not the majority, they're the minority, it's, yeah, we love gays.
Mom, Doni, gays, bro, Muslims in general, Islam in general, they are not welcoming to this freaking attitude and this behavior.
Are you, don't, don't be fooled.
Okay, they're the minority.
when it's the majority, it's a rat, bro.
And they all love, he's a Sharia law loving.
All these guys, don't sleep on these people, bro.
Don't sleep on them.
He easily could have said no, because it is a no.
Remember what Bill Maher said?
He said, it's phases.
Kids go through phases.
You don't respond to it.
He said, when I was eight years old, you'll like this, Call it.
Bill Maher said, I said I wanted to be a pirate.
I am so glad my parents didn't send me out for eye removal and peg leg surgery.
It's so true.
It's so true.
That's actually
It's a joke
But it's actually very
It's very true
I mean it makes sense
And how do we get to
My question is
And I say this
I say this often
And I'm not going to use evil
Or one side
Bro one side
Is the conservative
Trying to be Christian
They're trying to live
Like Christ
And try to be better people
The other side is anti-God
Nick can you name me one
Outspoken Democrat
That loves Jesus Christ
And loves the Lord
Go ahead
I just I
But see
But about
But I'm asking you. Can you?
But this country was founded on the idea that that's a private matter between a man and his God, right?
I don't mind that.
I'm just saying, I always worry that with politics, you get to go.
I'll say it.
I actually don't know how he thinks or what he's thinking.
My feeling is the way he's been living his life.
He's making money off the capitalist system.
That's his job.
All that stuff.
He played football.
He feels pretty.
But like, watch this.
As a politician, whether you're a Republican or Democrat, if you came out and you said,
Hey, you know what the problem with some minority community is, is fatherlessness and lack of accountability.
Good luck.
Your strategist would be like, you can't tell the truth that way.
Dude, you got to, you got to dance here.
But what does it say about that?
But Brian, what does it say about that side?
Because that side, like, for instance, that side kills people.
Brian, if they don't agree with you.
You know, you know what it is.
This is kind of how I see this.
is Adam Silver, Charles Barkley came out,
and pull up this clip, I'll send it to you.
It's on my Twitter, if you go on my Twitter account,
and I'll make these two make sense to you.
So Charles Barkley is being asked the following question,
guess what?
What do you think Charles Barclays ever said
about lesbians and gays and LGBTQ community?
You know what he's always said?
He has always defended him.
Always.
Because I think he has a relative.
I don't know who it is, but somebody is.
To play this clip and look what he says
about what the WMBF.
is doing and I'm going to bring this to the Democratic Party. Go for it.
I always support the gay community.
I always support the transgender community.
I got love and respect for gay people and transgender people.
But under no circumstances, do I think men should play against women?
Zero.
I'm disappointed in Adam Silver and Kathy, the commissioner.
First of all, you can't let stupid stuff go out to the internet.
which is one of the worst things ever happened to the world.
They should have come out two weeks ago before all this.
The people are looking for attention now.
Including this guy.
But he has a point, though, because Kathy and Adam haven't said, hey,
It's in the title, WNBA.
We're not going to have transgender people in the WNBA,
and we're not going to discuss it again.
That's what Adam and Kathy should have done two or three weeks ago
before they turn it over to the Internet,
and every fool idiot and jackass to have an opinion on.
Adam
Adam should come out
and Kathy
I like both of them a lot
women can
there's no transgender
people going to play
in the NBA
If you don't like it
Kickrod
He's expecting a different answer
And we're not going
And we're not going to discuss it
Okay
He's a Democrat
This is not a guy
That's a
So what he's saying
It's not crazy
That's what I'm saying to you
So check this out
If the WMBA
continues
Bullshitting around
and doing this
I believe they're hiding that men competed in WMB, but that's my opinion.
I believe that is the reason why they're delaying.
That's a heavy.
I've been saying this for the last few months.
Really?
I've been saying this for a minute.
Yes.
I believe men have competed and for them to come out, they have to wait for certain men to retire
or leave so they can do it quietly and not address it.
Because if it's so common sense that you would have already done it six months,
12 months ago, okay?
That's what I believe.
I could be wrong, but that's what I believe.
This simple question that you can't answer, do you believe,
should be able to choose to transition.
If Democrats can't answer that question,
that is going to hurt them in 2028,
general election, not primary in the general election.
Because someone in the debate is going to ask AOC that question,
and what is she going to do?
Is she going to fumble?
Someone's going to ask that question.
How are you going to answer that?
The Republicans are going to say what?
I don't believe men belong in women's sports.
I don't believe any puberty blockers
or gender transition before you were 18 years old,
whatever you do with your body,
when you're an adult, it's up to you.
That's common sense.
We're not saying don't be a transgender, don't be gay.
No, no.
After adult, you're an adult, make your decision.
Vote for wherever you want.
Do your thing.
So I think this is going to hurt the Democratic Party.
But when you're dealing in small little markets like this
that you're competing for, it probably won't.
I think it is in the general side.
Adam, final thoughts, and we'll move on.
I have an opinion on the Democratic Party.
This is why they're moving so far left.
They are refusing to come to the middle on social issues,
and that's why they're going so hard on economic issues.
They're basically saying wealth tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax, tax,
to basically hide the ball, no pun intended,
from the social issues that they are not willing to compromise on.
They are not willing to say that men should not play in women's sports.
They're not willing to do it.
It's the weirdest hill to die on that hill.
And because they're unwilling to move there,
they say, all right, let's go just go further left on the economy.
And let's see how that works.
but to me, this guy El-Sayed, I was speculating this,
and I did some research.
I was like, who are the famous Arab or Muslim Republicans?
And then I was like, why are there none?
That is weird.
Because they seem like they would be more conservative
and more on the Republican side.
Actually, I think a lot of them are.
Am I wrong?
Yes.
That's what I'm saying.
I think El-Sayed feels like he's...
Some guy from Egypt who at least...
advocates for Sharia law doesn't condemn it.
You're telling me, that dude is cool with trans and men playing women sports and the LGBT and the abortion.
Yeah, he feels like a closet conservative.
Yeah, it's almost like when they get her to America, they say, all right, we have to pretend to be something we're not.
And we have to hijack the Democratic Party.
We're going to become part of the DSA.
And we're just going to get the power.
It's almost like this is some sort of plan.
because if you're telling me this guy was in Egypt,
respect to the Arabs, respect to the Muslims,
no disrespect,
I doubt there's a big LGBTQ community going on in Cairo right now.
I don't think that's happening.
I think he grew up in Michigan too.
No, but that's your family roots.
To me, I think they're playing apart
and I just don't see Ilhan Omar doing abortions.
Let's see. Let's see what I'll have you get them.
I'm going to play this last clip and then we'll wrap up.
So here's Andre 3,000 from Outcast, whom I love.
he's being asked about rapping
and does it get to a point where you're too old to rap
and he says something that is so flipping funny
where you're like maybe this guy's got a point
okay go for it
like even now like people think oh man
he's just sitting sitting on raps
or like he's just holding or holding these raps hostage
like I ain't got no raps like that
like it's it actually feels sometimes
it feels inauthentic for me to rap
because I don't have anything to talk about in that way.
Like, I'm 48 years old,
and not to say that age is a thing that dictates what you rap about,
but in a way it does.
And, like, things that happen in my life,
like, what do you talk?
Like, I got to go get a colonoscopy.
Like, what do you mean?
Like, what are you laughing about?
You know what I mean?
Like, my eyesight is going bad.
That's so funny.
He's so great.
And this is so true.
It's so true.
I was, see, I got these, these,
somebody gave me these jeans.
and they had a hole in him.
They were stylish.
I'm too old.
I'm not wearing cold jeans, bro.
I'm wearing regular.
I'm wearing collared shirts now.
But see,
but you know what?
I guarantee you he could make a sick album just on that,
just on fatherhood,
just on the awkwardness.
He's brilliant.
Polonoscopy.
Brilliant.
That would be so,
because he could do it.
There's anybody that could do it,
it would be him.
That's Christ.
Well,
you know who didn't get the memo is Uncle Snoop.
Because Snoop's out there.
Well,
he's still smoking weed.
He hasn't,
he hasn't written a rap song
in 30 years.
He's just doing the same.
But he's still getting out there doing his hits.
Yeah.
By the way, it was just the 30-year anniversary of their first album, A.T. Elions, this one right here,
30 years ago.
I remember listening to that in high school.
Me and you, your mama and your cousins, too, rolling out of the strip on wall,
coming up, slamming Cadillac, don't.
I meant to do it on the way.
But anyway, but I could see he's so talented.
He's so good.
maybe he don't do rap no more.
Do the blues, do some jazz.
Don't just hang him up. You're that good.
I think Big Boy is partner in crime.
I think he's still out there doing his thing.
All right, all right, all right, all right, all right.
I don't know.
Every rapper I've ever worked with, I've worked with some really famous,
you know, I did a movie with Ice Cube.
And the rappers that have been around for a long time,
whether it was like Queen Latifah or Ice Tea or Ice...
They all become actors.
No, not just that.
One of the things, the secret with them,
and by the way, same thing with Lowell,
if you actually, if you're around them, you know that they were all straight A students.
They're all goody two shoes.
They're all super smart, super disciplined.
It's the ones that have a one hit and they get in a jump.
These guys are business.
Well, they're creative off the time.
Oh, yeah.
Do you know how talented you have to be to freestyle and do stuff like that?
Get it.
Forget it.
Anyway.
You know who all said this?
50 said said the same thing as well.
He says, you're not supposed to be the hottest rapper at 60.
You guys see this?
He says, you're not supposed to be the hottest rapper at 60.
I just sent you guys the clip if you want to go to it.
It's a young man's game.
Yeah, but I mean, look, I mean, do you remember when his song was...
You could find me in the club, bottom of the book.
I was in the military.
Like, when that came out, it's like, I don't care where you were.
They were playing.
After being shot nine times, count him.
Nine times.
And said when he's in the back of that cab, by the way, gets in a back of a cab.
to go to the hospital, like a man.
Like a man.
Ambulance, ambulance.
I'm not tipping you.
And he said, I bled out all my fear
in the back of that cat. Have you ever read the book
The 50th Law by Robert Green
and 50 Cent? I've never read that, but I've interviewed
So he explains
that one of the marketing tactics
they did, which was phenomenal.
He's about to drop
an album and he
pays one of his guys to just
come and shoot up the recording
studio, news finds out saying they don't want me to release my album because they know it's very
hard. And that becomes like people were lying up for the album to come out. Yeah. This guy is a genius
and a half. Go for it. Only giving us music as themes and intros. Yeah, I'm not trying to be in the
way. See, look, hip-hop coaches connected to youth culture. You're not supposed to be the hottest in
nothing at 60. Fuck that, man. You can still do your shit. I used to sing.
and that's love music.
It don't never...
It's timeless.
You've never felt like
you still have
one more album in you.
No, I still got love for music.
I'm never going to lose that.
I'm always going to do something.
And those are like entries.
Look, it's me putting a little piece
or tab something in there front of them here
and I still do it.
That I still got it.
But you ain't giving us...
I don't need it.
I can't come...
I know you bust their music is not about me.
My music is not about me.
My music is out.
Everybody and I do the shit from 03
from 03 and fuck them up right now.
From 03.
Right now.
You're at 20 years later.
It's so true, though.
Well, Tom, I know you're in great shape. You're in your 60s.
Does this dissuade you from Wanda to become a professional rapper?
I know you got that.
Good question. I've been quiet here for a while.
This is not just about rap music.
What they're talking about is youth and yearning and having a message and things.
And when you go and you take a look like people like Neil Young, you know, and he was singing about Vietnam and all the things that go with that.
When you go through the arc into the arc of success, it's hard to be the.
credible counterculture poet, whether it's rock and roll or folk and Neil Young and
Joni Mitchell going way back or hip hop.
I mean, you go and you take a look at the Rolling Stones now.
They're 80 years old with organ replacement, still going on tour.
But they can still do it at that.
No, they can do it.
But what are they doing?
They're doing the old stuff.
All the new stuff sounds like old stuff, and there's nothing new about it.
That's the point.
Focus on the hip hop for a second.
I know you got some skills.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not, come on.
By the way, let me say.
One of the greatest openings to his song that can you pull up the clip I just sent you.
I cannot tell you during that time, they made this guy so famous because this reverend that comes out who says we're not against rap.
We're not against rappers.
Bone Thugs and Harmony took this.
Go ahead.
Press play.
We're not against rap.
We're not against rappers.
But we are against those thugs.
Tugs.
Do you know what song is a song?
It's the Tuggest.
It's the Tuggest.
It's the Tuggest.
They started it off.
Go back to the beginning again.
The song starts with this guy.
Can we play the song or no?
We can't play the song.
Go back to it.
No, no, Ophi, you got to hear the whole thing.
Go back to the beginning.
To the beginning.
Who, uh, uh,
we're not against rap.
I didn't realize this is a real.
But we are against us.
They opened the flippin' song with this.
Shout out to busy bone and crazy bone and phone.
The moment we get off, I'm going to play.
How do you not know this song?
I know the song.
I didn't know that that was.
Cleveland, East 99, Eternal.
My bad.
You know your rap, huh?
I'm a hip-hop.
My first job on a college.
NBA and rap is a jazz.
Comedy.
I listen to Yanni all the time.
Don't get him, let him fool you.
He's a Yanni guy, old-school Yon.
He's got a Yonni tattoo on his back.
You know what? I'm going to get you a Garshuk. I got you.
You know, it's just a hip-hop and everything. I mean, I always wonder why we take from our women, where we came from our women, and they hate on their women. I just don't understand that.
Thank you, Tupacupac.
All right, Tom.
The one-
Take from our women and make with our women.
Hey, Tom, I don't know if you know this. The black or the berry, the sweeter the juice.
Oh, damn. I don't know. I'm not.
The one artistic medium that's exempt.
from age is stand-up comedy, ladies and gentlemen.
So that's all I have to say.
And where are you at?
What are you at?
Amy Improv this weekend, baby.
Tonight, tomorrow and Sunday.
Three days?
Tonight, tomorrow and Sunday.
Yeah.
Vinnie, you come by.
You know, I'm going to put the link below.
There he is.
Put the link below for the schedule.
Put it in the chat.
Put it in the description.
Go support the man in town.
Funny as hell.
Like I said at the beginning.
Top five scenes in movies that I will watch over and over again.
He was one of them.
And that's the scene when they go.
to you motherfucker.
You don't remember me, Andy.
I thought this guy was going to eat my dick.
Vinny, look at this.
Realtors and comedians, always using the 10-year-old picture.
I know, dude.
I know.
I got to get better.
I got to get better.
All right, gang.
Have a great weekend.
By the way, we're not doing podcasts on Monday, right?
No podcast on Monday?
We don't have a podcast.
I don't know if we are.
But are we doing it or no?
Thumbs up or thumbs down?
We're not.
No podcast on Monday.
Loafers, man. I want some of these loafers.
We're going to get it for you. We're going to get it for this Monday.
Not No podcast Monday. We will be in Las Vegas and we look forward to seeing all of you guys.
But I do think we come back on Friday. But we do have quite a few interviews.
Senator Ted Cruz is going to come out.
Tony Robbins is going to come up. By the way, this Tony Robbins interview, as good as the first one was, this is 10 times better than the first one.
Then we have Sammy DeBo Grvano. And I think we got a couple other interviews. I forgot that's still coming out, right?
That we have in the hopper.
So anyways, thank you, everybody.
Have a great weekend.
Bye bye, bye, bye.
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