PBD Podcast - Trump vs Pope Leo + Death Penalty For Pedophiles | PBD #780
Episode Date: April 20, 2026Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, Ilan Srulovicz, and Vincent Oshana cover Donald Trump’s clash with Pope Leo, JD Vance’s Pakistan trip for U.S.-Iran peace negotiations, Idaho’s de...ath penalty law for child sex offenders, and major U.S. crime and school safety incidents including the Louisiana family shooting and Oklahoma school shooting intervention.--------👞 THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbd💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
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Did you ever think you would make it?
I feel I'm supposed to take sweet bit of thud me.
I know this life meant for me.
Adam, what's your point?
The future looks bright.
My handshake is better than anything I ever size.
Right here.
You are a one of one?
My sun's right.
I think I've ever said this before.
All right.
So I don't know if you guys saw this new law that's about to be passed July of this year in Idaho.
Did you hear about this Idaho law?
No.
We have to talk about it.
It's something that I actually want to get your reaction to it.
Some folks are going to like it.
Some folks are going to love it, especially when you hear about the story of what happened with that young girl in the FedEx car with the independent contractor that ended up murdering the girl.
If you remember that story we talked about two weeks ago, wait till you see what Idaho is passing.
I'm telling you, wait until you see what Idaho is passing.
I'm going to get into that talk about it's pretty impressive to see what they got going on.
There's a lot of stuff that's going on, obviously, over the weekend.
I hope everybody had a good weekend.
Trump stands by his remarks against the Pope Leo.
Pope Leo expands calls for peace to perceived war of wards with Trump,
dismissing media narrative of the rift.
Pope Leo says his tyrant's remark were not aimed at Trump.
We'll definitely be talking about that.
While we're talking about this, there was a clip that was going viral,
over X, that even IDF confirmed the picture, which was a soldier, I think it was, what was it?
Knocked on the statue of Jesus and broke it up and knocked down the statue of Jesus and to pieces.
We'll definitely talk about that.
Terrible, terrible thing to see there.
Donald Trump signs Joe Rogan back the executive order expediting psychedelic drug research.
The world watched Joe laugh 50 times behind Trump.
I don't know if he saw when he's standing behind him.
It's just cracking up.
Yeah. Trump is saying, you know, some are telling me the greatest president of all time.
I was able to save it for 40 years. They couldn't do it. That's why they called me the greatest.
1.8 percent. It got lower. And that's something. That's not a lot. But I think it's a lot.
And he's just a funny guy what he was doing. So we'll address that.
Trump announces Monday peace talks in Islamabad accuses Iran of ceasefire violation.
And apparently J.D. Vance is on his way over there to negotiate, even though
IRGC said they're not going to show up.
US is like, no, they're going to show up.
They're still on the way because you saw that clip
with the ship that was going.
They shot the engine like, hey, you better stop it.
And then they went over there and like,
you cannot be doing this.
And this is becoming very clear
that if this oil sits there for too long,
they're going to start losing real money.
It could be problematic for them.
We'll cover that.
Trump warns Iran can't blackmail us
as crisis deepens in Strait of Hormuz.
Iran fully closes straight of Hormuz.
over U.S. blockade and fires on ships will address that. Anchor Babies recently reached nearly
10% of all U.S. spurts, well-tax fever spreading to less wealthy states. And by the way,
how much money you think Newsom spent from his pack to promote his book to make it a bestseller?
Did you hear about this brilliant strategy? Don't you just love it? He spent, he had like a million
and a half dollars spent to buy his books just to help it become a bestseller. We'll address that.
Carville, extremely, you know, bitter human being. He flat out said, I'm proud to be one of those
TDS, unlike these center type of bullshit like Bill Maher and the rest of the folks. I really have
TDS and there's some of us still left. And he reveals what Democrats should do if they win.
I think you ought to pay attention to what he's saying because he's been a heavyweight. And he says,
do it. Don't say you're going to do it. Just do it, which is a big difference, right? Like,
gain the power and do all this stuff, don't promote it.
But we'll address that.
Elhan Omar blames accounting era for claiming she was a multimillionaire.
Oh.
Because we all make that mistake.
I've done it so many times, Pat.
I mean,
you were a $2.8 billion last year.
I was.
But it was an accounting game.
$28,000 net worth.
Yeah, I told the IRS I was basically broke.
They still wanted the money.
Yeah.
Newsom pack, but okay, California Dems bid,
hit $2 billion dollar budget accounting era for months.
Meta's about to cut.
thousand job. Elon Musk proposes universal high income payments to address AI driven job placement.
And then Netflix co-founder Reed Hastings is resigning and stepping down.
Apparently a lot of people are canceling their Netflix subscription because they're again raising
prices. And the one thing I'm privately looking forward to, which I hope this happened,
Barkley makes a revelation about his fractured friendship with Michael Jordan after 14 years
feud. I would love to see a Berkeley and
Jordan conversation, kneecap to kneecap to go through stuff over the years.
We have to talk about the gunmen in Louisiana that killed eight children, including seven of his own.
I don't know if I've ever heard anybody kill seven of their own kids.
This guy did.
Just a complete tragic story.
Wait till you see what the story behind it is.
Cash Patel announced live on Fox News.
Arrests are coming, and I promise you it's coming soon.
There was another story that came out that Cash Patel has a drinking problem, and he may be losing his job.
But apparently the same person that wrote the article, based on what Tom said,
wait to hear about the person that wrote the article in the past,
had to redact.
What did the writer have to do in the past?
And redacted parts of it and retract.
Retract, yeah, parts of it.
So we'll address that.
And then gas prices.
You know, it's interesting.
When you look at these gas prices with the state of California,
the numbers are very weird.
Okay.
The national gas prices right now for diesel are 540.
In national, it's 543.
But in the state of California, 752.
And in the lowest states, 459.
How the hell is California $2 higher than the national average and $3 more than the lowest state?
And, you know, maybe that's the reason why so many people have left the state.
And then we've got a few other things that we'll get into if we get the time.
Maybe the best news of the day, probably.
I mean, listen, there's a lot of stories.
There isn't many stories as important as this one.
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Weird.
They lose a game on the 8th.
Mamdani hugs the mascot, beautiful mascot.
Both of them, two of them.
Mr. and Mrs. Mets.
Matt.
Vinny really like one of the mascots.
And then after the hugs, the Mets have been on a mascot.
an 11 game losing streak.
I'd love it if Mamdani goes to the Mets games every night,
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We want to thank Maldani for his contribution
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Hopefully it'll continue going to the game.
Imagine if the Mets announced Mammani is no longer allowed to talk about.
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That'd be a great story.
All right.
Having said that for those of you that look forward to the Monday morning podcast
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First story I want to talk about, Rob, if you want to pull this up,
is J.D. Vance is still going to Islam about 18 hours.
And word on the street is that IRGC is not going to show up.
U.S. is saying they are going to show up.
And it would be interesting to see what ends up happening here.
Go ahead, Rob.
Hi, Kevin.
So negotiations are back on, despite some back-and-forth reporting
that we had seen earlier on in the day.
White House tells Fox that Vice President J.D. Vance
will be in attendance, and he will be leading the delegation back in Pakistan once again.
And it comes as the clock is ticking to reach a new deal because we know that this current ceasefire deal,
this two-week deal is set to expire on Wednesday. So there's a lot of diplomatic efforts ramping back up once again
to land a new deal before then. After those historic face-to-face talks last weekend, Vice President Vance
will be joined once again by envoy Steve Whitkoff and Jared Kushner. Yesterday, Iran said that it received
new proposals from the U.S.
and the country's deputy foreign minister warned that a framework of understanding must be agreed
to first. President Donald Trump today posted on truth social, writing, quote, we're offering a very
fair and reasonable deal, and I hope they take it because if they don't, the United States
is going to knock out every single power plant, every single bridge in Iran. So the president
facing some quick criticism because of those words this morning, but also over the war in general.
Take a listen.
died. Others are being injured and Americans are paying a dollar more for gas because of President
Trump's war of choice. I think it is very, very... Your pause right here. By the way, while this
is happening, Iran refuses to join latest round of peace talks as Trump sent the top-in envoy to Pakistan.
Rob, I think you got a video on this one as well. Claim U.S. has unrealistic demands. Iranians are
saying unrealistic demands. Tom, what do you think is going to happen here? So I felt like this was
coming all weekend. It's like the shoes.
going to drop, here we go. They're either going to break the ceasefire or they're going to do something.
I was almost certain. I'm just kind of waiting for it. And then I saw, hey, the blockade was serious
because, you know, they radioed to a ship. Hey, you better hang on. You know, you're going to get hit.
And they hit the engine room. They said, now you guys all evacuate, get out of there. So they were
trying to hit the ship, but at the same time, you know, be, and it's hard to use this word in war,
but to be humane about it.
To say, hey, I don't want to kill your sailors,
but that ship's going where it shouldn't be going.
Bang.
And that happens.
You want to play that real quick, Rob?
So this is the clip Thomas talking about.
Go for it.
It's a gangster.
Motor vessel tovostka.
Vacate your engine room.
Vacate your engine room.
We're prepared to subject you to disabling fire.
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Not listening.
Just watch.
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the engine. And then this is
what you're talking about, Tom, that they took
over the ship. Yep. And this
is a five-inch gun. These aren't torpedoes.
They're not trying to sink it and create an environmental disaster.
They're trying to put two right through the hole
into the engine room and disable it.
Sort of like, I warned you, and now they've got to get tugboats
and tow it off someplace. And that's the
when you're in the middle of a blockade, I was reading
about this this weekend. This is
the military technique when you don't
want to have like oil and a huge
environmental crisis on the
shores of maybe innocent countries, not the one on the north, but certainly there are several
in the south that are just sitting there. And so, like I said, I was waiting for the Iran to
break the ceasefire or to refuse or to be difficult, like right at the last minute. They're
playing along, playing along, playing along, bang, and then this on the blockade. So
to me, this kind of happened right on time. This is what I was expecting. At the last minute,
things are going to crack. No, it just brings up something that we've talked about a lot, which is
asymmetrical warfare, that Iran can kind of be reckless, it can push things, it just has to get through
one time, has to have one mind go off, it has to disrupt one thing. Trump has to be 100% right,
100% of the time. And, you know, it's really interesting because it becomes a global issue. So
Trump's not just worried about the United States. Now he has the pressure of the entire world on his
back, which is just such a hard place to be in. So I'm hoping this comes to some kind of conclusion
fast. I'm hoping this doesn't continue to drag on and drag on and drag on. Adam.
So there's talks going on in Islamabad, Pakistan.
Islamabad Pakistan.
Do you think that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan,
with their capital of Islamabad, is being unbiased?
Maybe.
I don't know.
It's actually the United States who chose Islamabad to hold peace talks.
Why?
Because where else you're going to go?
Islamabad basically is
brokering a ceasefire
you know remember Trump's
broke a ceasefire between
Pakistan and India
there's a relationship there
we see what's going on there
but the whole context of this
Trump's war of choice
Trump's war of choice
Trump chose this no
the United States
all their all our presidents
all our leaders
they've been speaking out against this
for almost 50 years
Trump had the balls
to do something about it
the weakness
the effectiveness of the left and the woke Reich is actually alarming.
Rob, do you have that clip of the guy with Kamala Harris?
Kamala Harris, projected potential president,
28, challenge you to run.
I don't know if you can fast forward this clip.
Here's a lifelong Democrat basically saying,
I can no longer vote Democrat because of what?
The hypocrisy.
Here's her basically saying the number one enemy,
the number one threat, geopolitically,
Is Iran? This is Kamala Harris two years ago. I want to know what changed. Can we go to the beginning of that clip, Rob? It's at the very beginning.
She says, I'm a Kamala Harris voter. It's the first sentence. And I thought she would be a great president.
Until very recently when I saw her comments about the war in Iran.
I'm going to play some clips from before the election and from after the war.
He's a Bill's fan.
See what you think.
part of country do you consider to be our
greatest if we play this rob at 60 minutes
I think there's it no okay stop
okay we can't play it no point is
I can't play 60 minutes sorry about that row
the point is she says Iran
so our greatest what did he say enemy
did the greatest geopolitical threat whatever it was
she said Iran what changed guys
I want to know what changed what changed
what changes Trump did something about it
so now the entire identity
of the left is Trump's bad
I wish one thing I wish the left
loved America as much as they hated Trump.
It's crazy. And if I can continue for 10 more seconds,
you know, this flag that I wear everywhere, I gave Tom one today,
you want to know the craziest thing? People come up to me,
and they go, so you're Republican, right? I go, why would you say that?
They go, because you're wearing an American flag. I go,
so what are you saying? The American flag only represents Republicans.
They go, well, you know, like, yeah, Republicans tend to like the flag more.
I go, what a sad state of affairs, buddy.
That the American flag only represents one party.
What a shame.
I wish Democrats were more patriotic.
Well, my thing is there is no way that our government, the president, everybody,
didn't know this is what they were going to get with Iran.
And you said Islamic Republic, these people are on a mission from God.
They don't care about their own citizens' lives.
So I'm shocked why this is a surprise.
If you get into a wrestling match with a pig and you come out and you go,
What the, I'm dirty.
That's not like, it doesn't make sense to me.
They knew it was going to be like this.
They're not going to quit.
They're not going to stop.
And that's why the two main parts of the mission were taking over,
getting rid of the Ayatoll and all those things.
But the uprising, the people, this is not going to stop.
You think the IRGC and these maniacs are going to stop doing it?
This is going to be endless, Adam, because they're, think about it.
If you don't care about your own citizens, you have the army, they're going to keep.
Nope, nope, nope.
Because you know what they want to do?
They want.
Their mission is let Trump bomb all the plants.
Let Trump bomb all the oil plants.
So we'll show the world how messed up these people are.
And watch, because dude, if they put, and by the way, it'd be their fault.
But if they do that, imagine how many people that aren't radicalized there around the world are going to get radicalized
because they're going to go, oh, he is a tyrant.
So this, to Pat's question when we started this segment, did this surprise you with what
Not at all, Tommy?
Not at all.
You're like, how many times do we say we don't negotiate with terrorists?
The, like, the leadership, the Ayatollahs, Tom, they're on a completely different, like, they, they, they, the, when I say mission from God, Tom, that's who they're answering to.
They're saying God is making them.
Rob, can you pull up, can you pull up this clip I just sent you, which is all the presidents are speaking about on Iran?
I just texted to you.
And yeah, this one right here.
If you can play this, go ahead, Rob.
Formerly announcing my intention to cut off all trade and invest.
investment with Iran. Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror from threatening America
or our friends and allies with weapons of mass destruction. Iran aggressively pursues these weapons
and exports terror, while an unelected few repressed the Iranian people's hope for freedom.
I strongly believe that our national security interest now depends upon preventing Iran from
obtaining a nuclear weapon. Well, I can say to you, Iran will never get a nuclear weapon on my watch,
they say. This terrorist regime can never have a nuclear weapon. I'll say it again. They can never
have a nuclear weapon. Yeah, so everybody talked about it. One guy is doing something about it. So you
kind of have to see how, you know, this is another meme that's going viral. Iran took hostages.
They're evil. They're real threat. They're sponsoring terrorism. They're killing Americans. They're
building nukes. We have to stop them. Okay. You know, it's like, all right, I'll do it. No, you're the
enemy. You're the bad guy. You know, that's doing something like this.
Iran. Yeah, there's certain uncomfortable
realities that Americans have to
accept because Iraq really changed
the sentiment of war in the United States
for a very long time. That was,
you know, it should have been Iran, not Iraq.
But the big
reality here that everyone
has to accept whether they like it or not
is you have a radical Islamist regime
that lied not only about its
nuclear development. It enriched uranium
well past 60%. It's the only
non-nuclear country in the world to do that,
but also lied very clearly about its
ballistic missile range. And those are two very scary things. Even if you're not scared of the
uranium, they've proved to us they lied about the range of the missiles they are developing.
And going from intermediate range ballistic missiles to long range ballistic missiles is not a big
jump. And we do not have any type of blanket missile defense system in the United States.
It makes us very vulnerable. So do you want to, you know, we keep pushing it back,
pushing it back, pushing it back. And people say we've been saying this for decades. Yes,
but there is a breaking point. Like I said earlier, Iran only has to be right once. If that day
comes where they do have long-range ballistic missiles, even just dirty bomb tipped, right?
They don't have to actually be nuclear warheads. That is devastating for the United States.
So again, do you wait? Do you wait? Do you wait? No, Trump did the right thing. But here's my question
to you. I was in the Air Force. He was in the Army. We're not going to sit there and pretend like
we're four-star generals with all the military strategic planning. But, okay, you know what the
leadership. Tom, let's maybe we're in the situation room. Okay, guys, they have that capability.
We bombed, we took out their nuclear capabilities.
Okay, how are you going to win this?
Because every time you kill a leader, there's another one coming in.
They control the arm.
But here's the thing.
I got an idea.
I'm a son of a big pallet full of money.
That's what I'm thinking.
No, Obama, we can't do that.
But my thing is this, how do you achieve victory?
So let's just say, the missiles are gone, the nukes are gone.
The leadership is still there and they're never going to listen to you.
Yeah, so there's, again, an uncomfortable truth.
There's a difference between being able to exert extreux.
and being able to exert internal force.
The idea that we'll be able to win a victory over Iran
where they can no longer push internal, internal force,
is very unlikely. That's the truth.
It's an almost impossible battle.
You have a regime there that's willing to massacre its own people,
but the idea that we can set them back decades
in their ability to hurt externally, sadly, is, again,
it's an uncomfortable idea that you're putting them back
in the Stone Age.
But that is the only way you protect the rest of the world
rest of the world at some point. But now the, remember those people, those millions of people now,
they're sitting there like, wait a minute, uh, hello, what? I really want to address this with you
because I feel like we're going in circles sometimes. I don't think. I love you. No,
hear me out. Yeah. You're focused on the people of Iran. I hear you. On top of, hold on,
hold on, but let me, let me clarify. You want to clarify what about that? On top of the nuclear,
the epic fury, all that, I love that. Okay. But being from Iran, our families from Iran, at the end
the day, all that, thank God they bombed all that stuff. What about the people that were dying
at them that were like, yeah, help us here. And now it's just like, well, the nukes and stuff are gone,
good luck. Help is on the way. Help is here. I mean, Trump has been talking about this since he's
started running for election. We just showed the clip of every single president talking about this.
Trump did something. Yes. Marco Rubio, Trump, they've laid out their agenda. We're going
to take out all their military assets. Their navies in the bottom of the sea. They can't produce new
military weapons. There's rumors that they're putting shadows of planes out there so the U.S. is
bombing shadows because they don't have real planes. Okay, nuclear ambitions, put that aside. You,
Vincent, my brother, are hyper-focused on the people of Iran, as I understand. I think that's great.
Of course we want that. Here's the sad reality, so we don't continue to go and do this.
They're going to have to figure that out on their own. We talk about we don't want boots on the ground,
well which one is it?
Because we can't do regime change
unless we put boots on the ground.
So you can't have your cake and eat it too.
We can do all the heavy lifting.
But if there's going to be actual change in Iran,
the people have to do that.
Now, you might say, how are they going to do that?
I don't know. Pat doesn't know.
We don't know.
What we can do, like Elon said,
the external situations,
the nuclear, the warheads,
the shooting at 2,000 miles to Europe,
that's done.
So now whatever happens internally,
we literally mean, God bless, Allah bless,
figure it out, but we can't do the revolution for you.
Like the United States Revolution when we did this,
we're like, hey guys, the British.
It's like, no, no, you got to do this George Washington.
You got to sign the Declaration Dependence, guys, and that's what we did.
And that's the unfortunate situation.
They're going to have to do that.
We have a lot of support from France.
Our revolution, France gave us, you know, deception and...
But were they blue,
on the ground, were they fighting, or was Americans fighting?
There were French.
You're telling me that the French fight?
They were fighting. Come on now, buddy.
At a minimum, we should provide the Iranian people
with some kind of auxiliary support.
However, we can do that.
We are. Are we not?
But no, the Kurds took the guns and they left.
We tried to help them.
That story kind of came and went.
I'm not even sure.
So did the guns.
But, Pat, let me bring this back to you.
Kurds took them.
I think that you understand.
everything that Trump is doing, from the nuclear ambitions to the military to the warheads of
everything, the blockade, the economic warfare, focus on the people, if that's what video.
What should the people of Iran do at this point? The 10,000, 50,000, whatever the number,
of the greatest people who were fighting against Sergeant Brown being killed, is their sentiment
of fighting on the ground? Are they going to weaponry? Like, what are they going to do from a people
perspective? Yeah. But I want to understand this. Yeah, so a couple things on the
blockade of what's working and what's not.
Every day the blockade is there,
Iran loses $400 million a day.
400 million a day.
Every day, the blockade costs Iran's government,
the IRGC 400 million a day,
$12 to $13 billion a day of them selling oil.
They can only, experts say they can only handle it up to 16 days.
Some are saying two months.
So they're right now like this.
They're getting choked up.
So the idea that they put a pause on it,
kind of helped Iran a little bit.
Now, if they extend this and they have the block it,
and you're saying they're stopping, what was it,
three or four ships, hey, what are you doing?
Turn around. You ain't doing this right now.
You're selling it to nobody.
Get your ass back in a place.
We're serious about this.
Now Iran is sitting there saying,
holy shit, this is becoming real.
Now what am I going to do?
I need the revenue.
I need the money.
I need the income.
So how will Iran react?
Yesterday there was a 60 minutes episode on Iran.
And Rob, were you able to find out about the guy
that's on it or no.
Are you able to find that who it is?
So this is Matthew Bunn, okay, Harvard Kennedy School.
Matthew Bunn, to just kind of give you an idea who he is,
he, Bunn was served as a White House Office of Science and Technology from 94 to 96.
94 to 96, who would that be?
Was that senior as who he was under?
Clinton.
Clinton. Clinton was 92.
All right, so 9496 is Clinton.
So it's not like this is a Trump guy.
he is doing an interview yesterday with 60 minutes
and 60 minutes doesn't know what this guy's going to say
of course we can't play the clip
but we can just show what he says
with the content in the tweet Rob
if you want to go to it I highly recommend
watching this everybody should watch us tomorrow
just don't play the clip Rob
because you know what 60 Minus does so
UN last time UN inspector
were able to verify Iran had 970 pounds
of 60% uranium
enriched uranium
if enriched further the stockpile could produce
10 to 11 nuclear bombs says Matthew
a former White House nuclear advisor who works at the Harvard Kennedy School, Belfour Center.
And then he also says this, which was kind of shocked a lot of people.
Iran has been lying about its nuclear weapon effort for over 20 years now.
He says, a former White House nuclear advisor who works at Harvard Kennedy School.
Remember, this is a Biden, this is a Clinton guy.
If he's a Clinton or a Bush person, he's not a Trump person.
Let's get that clear.
Bushes don't like Trump, Clintons don't like Trumps.
They're on the same page.
So, you know, there is the media market what everybody reacts to and what they say.
Then there is the people that were in there having dealt with Iran and known what these guys are like
and how they lie when they're negotiating.
Iran's in a very bad place.
The challenge with the people is the following.
They don't have somebody there.
And I don't know why the president is not locking on to Resa Palavi.
If he did, his strategy would be different.
So think about it this way.
Did you guys see Maria Corino Machado came up outside in the balcony?
How the Venezuelans reacted to her?
Did you see this clip?
Rob, can you find this clip?
Just type in her name and how she was received.
It was beautiful on how she was received.
What Trump wants to do and what he doesn't want to do?
It's right there.
Watch this, Vinny.
Just watch the reaction how she's being received.
Is this in Venezuela?
Can you go back to the tweet so I can read the details there?
Venezuela, an opposition leader, Maria-Maccato,
Karino Machado, walked out to a sea of thousands of supporters in Madrid.
He got it.
Machado has dedicated a Nobel Prize to,
she is refusing to meet Spain's leftist PM Pedro Sanchez right now.
Instead, meeting with right-wing opposition, right-wingers must rise across Europe.
Okay, so play the clip, Rob.
Play the clip.
Oh, my.
Is that real?
No, this is real.
Holy moly.
This is Spain.
Yeah, that's surprising.
Okay?
Spain loving her.
That's right.
This is Spain.
Now you've got to realize
the Spain's leader
has been also getting
a lot of attention
because Trump and comments he made
he went against him
so he's kind of plain.
But this is kind of where I'm going
with you, Adam,
to answer your question
about the people.
So the difference
between Reza Palavi and her is what?
She got a Nobel Prize.
She went to the White House.
She gave it to Trump.
Everybody thought Trump was going to get behind her
and Trump's like,
no, your people got to vote for you.
So if you look at the pattern
there,
what do Iranians have to do with this guy?
If Iranians really want to play, use a similar type of a playbook,
because this guy is getting audiences that are shown up as well.
But Trump is not going to get behind to say,
we're going to endorse you, the same way he did,
when Maria Carina Machado.
So honestly, it's a, he has to be able to convince the U.S. government
that the military has flipped on them
and is supporting him, and he simply doesn't have that.
You could have the people.
You could have audiences
showing up in Germany.
You could have audiences shown up
all over the place.
And by the way,
they are for this guy.
But you got to get the military to flip.
If the military people are not flipping,
you ain't going to have a lot of a,
you need some of the military,
even if it's 5%, 10%, 20%,
to stand up and say,
hey, this is what we're going to be doing.
It hasn't happened yet.
And so influence-wise,
they've got to find somebody internally.
Iran's market's not going to let that happen
because the internet, you know,
where people cannot communicate,
communicate the message out. It's still kind of tough to be able to do it. So Iran's issue is different.
So the president is probably thinking the idea of a regime change and a regime collapse.
The regime, he can technically say it's changed. Why? Because it's new people hasn't collapsed.
If IRGC is there three months from now, there is no collapse. Yeah. You can say, you know,
Chaminet is not there. His son took over. You can say you kill 50 different people. So as long as IRGC is there,
the Iranian people are going to be screwed
because the way they're going to be treating.
Quick follow up on that to you.
So you're talking about the power, who has the power?
By the way, has anyone even seen the new Ayatollah?
Allegedly he's in a coma?
I know you think he's gay.
Whatever the Kelly's...
I don't know what's going on.
But follow the money here.
If you're saying that they're losing $400 million a day,
okay? How many billions is that going to be this month?
12 to $13 billion a month.
They can't afford to lose that kind of money.
They're choking them out.
Yeah, they are.
And if they can't pay their...
their proxies, which is done, if they can't pay their IRGC,
the people have no money, what's going to happen to the society?
If you choke them out, how do you get rid of the IRGC?
That's the big problem.
So if they're saying, if they're saying, well, you know,
they've agreed to a 15-year suspension on, you know, uranium enrichment and all this other stuff,
what the hell is 15 years?
The problem, like, for example, I don't care if, you know,
certain countries have nuclear enrichment or the power
if they're allies and they're friendly.
Who do you care about not having it?
People who are screaming off the top of their lungs,
death upon America.
Yeah, that's a little bit concerning to give you that.
And say 15 years?
So what makes you think in 15 years?
How old is AOC in 15 years, Rob?
50?
I don't know how old she is right now.
34? 33, 35?
How old is she today?
36.
In 15 years, she's 51.
Say America gets crazy.
Who was Obama doing the whole song and dancing with the kids with Mamdani in a classroom?
I don't know if you guys saw that or not.
So Obama was at first too careful to get too close to an Islamist socialist, semi-communist.
He did.
Now they're doing this.
Optics-wise, go out and play this clip-rop.
What do you think this is?
You can play the clip.
What do you think this is?
Tell me what optics are.
If the number one democratic influencer in the last 30 years gets in front of an,
Is this not a form of endorsement?
Yes.
This is an endorsement.
Well, that's some indoctrination right there.
Shortly after, by the way, his wife was caught with all those crazy comments online.
And Obama's, Obama. So, meaning they're going to.
And by the way, this leads to the follow.
Let me go to the James Carville tweet.
I don't know if you guys saw this or not on the podcast.
James Carvel, who's a big Democratic advisor, said this on the podcast.
We won't play the clip because it's very long, but I'll just read it to you.
James Carville started, joined the podcast, stated on a left-wing Policon podcast that when the Democrats regain power, they plan to.
Ready?
Grant statehood to D.C. and Puerto Rico so the Democrats can unlock four extra seats in the Senate.
You know they're all going to be on the left.
Packed the U.S. Supreme Court with nine justices from nine to 13, adding another four left-wing justices to the court.
It's going to be hard, but that's what they want to do.
Reopen the U.S.-Mexico border and grant mass amnesty to every.
every single alien currently inside the U.S.
And last but not least, don't run on it.
Don't talk about it.
Just do it.
You don't think Democrats are going to get into the White House soon.
You don't think they're going to be in there.
You don't think they're going to have control.
So then what are they going to do?
So then how are they going to negotiate with Iran?
Are they going to be as strong?
Are they going to be as aggressive?
Are they going to unpack?
What is the money supply that's sitting there that they want to release back to Iran?
$20 billion?
Yeah.
And everybody says, oh, no, Trump wants to give them money.
No, that's their funds that we have frozen the accounts so that they can't buy bad things with it at the moment.
Elon.
That's it. It's not a palate, a gift the way Obama did.
I mean, you want to talk about a threat to America that tweet pretty much.
We're so distracted from so many other things that someone can come out and say that and we don't even focus on it, take it seriously.
So I'm very, very worried about our future and our next election.
As for Iran internally, like you were saying, if you put more pressure on the IRGC, if you keep
choke holding them. You would hope that there would be some kind of internal fracture that takes
place eventually that does cause the people to rise up, does cause the people, part of the military
to fracture inside with them. But it's just so ugly and messy in the process that I think a lot of
people don't have the stomach for it. So I don't know. They don't have that much time, by the way.
The U.S. doesn't have that much time. Yeah. They have, honestly, like if I were to give you a timeline,
you have 45 days. Do you not think, though, that there is some fracture happening with him?
I do think, absolutely. I think they're making progress. I love the fact that,
the ship stood in front of them and said, hey, guy, turned around, boom, boom, boom,
hey, you're this.
Come on here.
Engine.
That's a statement to the world that, hey, this is not just a threat.
And for him to say, so now imagine if this gets to the point.
So let's kind of play this out.
J.D. Vance goes, and imagine IRGC doesn't show up.
So Tom, that's kind of like I sent Tom to negotiate.
And the other guys all of a sudden punk Tom and they don't show up.
Let me ask you, are they really punking Tom or are they punking me?
Punking you.
They're not punking Tom.
Yeah.
Okay, so how am I going to react?
How is he going to react?
Think that for a second.
So J.D. goes to Islamabad.
Now, we know 90% chance they're showing up because they talk a lot of shit, but they're going to show up.
But say the 10% they don't show up.
Say the 10% they don't show up.
Maybe if the 10% they don't show up, Vinie, what percentage of Iranians is like, yeah, attack our own people?
We want it because we want that story.
If you don't show up, it's your way of saying we want the blood on your hand.
100%.
Do it.
Do it because the world's going to turn against you even more.
Go ahead and do it.
They will sympathize with us, not with you.
Go ahead and attack us.
So run a poll real quick, Rob.
Let's see what the smartest audience in the world, who is very well balanced, will be saying here,
do they believe the IRGC will show up
when J.D. Vance arrives in Islamabad.
Rob, can you run that poll?
I know you listen to two different clips.
What clip is this, Rob, they just pulled up as well?
This is the Iranian foreign minister.
This was late last night where he talks about Iran
participating in the peace deals in Pakistan.
That they are going to show up.
No. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Seems nervous.
First of all, up until this very moment,
we do not have any plans for the next round
of negotiations.
Okay.
Decision.
By the way,
played again for five seconds.
Played again for five seconds.
He doesn't know if he wants to say anything.
First of all, up until this very moment,
we do not have any plans for the next round of negotiations.
He's a target, his house,
is worried.
Yeah, his days are numbered.
He's talking like his days are number.
But the point being the following.
The point being the following.
What happens if they don't show up?
Well, if they don't show up.
Say that on.
Say J.D. lands. He lands. You're there. Withkov, Kushner. They're there. And they don't show up. What does Trump do?
Well, Trump's been shown that he's willing to escalate. That's one thing Trump has... Do you think Iran believes that at this point?
Of course. I agree. But what I will say is this. The world has learned...
The world has learned...
...as like a heart attack.
But you're absolutely right. And what you said is that the world has learned, the worst regimes in the world learned, that the way they can win a war is by the suffering of their own people.
which is a terrible, terrible place to be.
So Iran has the ability to massacre its own people,
use its own people as essentially human shields.
And then when they die, they go,
they know there's tons of world pressure now.
Stop the violence, stop the violence, stop the violence.
Yeah, but it's not going to work.
Well, hold on, Adam.
I tell you why.
Well, because, well, not even a minute,
if Trump goes through with it and bombs the power grid and their oil,
the people are going to die.
Forget about all the older people.
Like, people are going to.
to die and like, I know I heard somebody be like, well, maybe that's going to be the camel that
broke the camel's back, the straw that broke the camel's back and make the people finally revolt.
I'm like, no, they're going to have nothing.
They have nothing.
What are they going to do, throw rocks at their own government?
No, bro, this is a, if that happens, Pat, it's going to be very, very, very bad.
Two clips I want to showing that, Adam, I'm going to come to you.
Number one, here's what the president said.
The president said the following, if, well, I'll just let him say it.
Go ahead.
Excuse me, but in any of it will get it.
Go ahead.
If you don't have a deal by Wednesday when the ceasefire ends, will you extend the ceasefire or will you start at attacks again?
Maybe I won't extend it.
But the blockade is going to remain.
But maybe I won't extend it.
So you have a blockade and unfortunately we'll have to start dropping bombs again.
Thank you very much, everybody.
Thank you.
I think it's going to happen.
What about the UFOs, Mr. President?
I'm saying UFOs, that then?
Yeah.
They're trying.
So that's Trump.
And then Federman.
Rob, do you have the exact time when he's?
says that or no, go forward.
I might be the only Democrat that supports, you know, what's happened through Epic Fury,
but I am the only Democrat, definitely in the Senate and now the only Democrat in Congress,
I think, now to support Epic Fury at this point.
And I'll never understand why my party just can't just see that there's been a lot of good
developments through a lot of these things.
I mean, I don't, you know, to pulverize the Iranian military, every single Democrat has said,
we can never allow Iran to acquire a nuclear bomb.
And now they've been the evil regime.
And I think eliminating their leadership is a strong development too.
And Hezbollah, that's one of their proxies.
And so it's tremendous the way Israel has to neutralize them to the point where now they're begging for a ceasefire now, too.
You can pause all right there.
Look, there's one person in charge of the world right now.
Whether you like him or not, it's Donald Trump.
He's the big baller, shock caller.
Everyone else is just noise.
Trump is the signal.
So do you think Trump can be easily swayed by anybody at this point?
Do you think that Trump is, you know, controlled by Israel,
cares what other people think.
Trump's fighting with one hand behind his back.
Remember the scene in Gladiator when Joaquin Phoenix goes...
Hugs him, embrace me, brother.
And stabs him.
And then he comes down down the world.
And what does Russell Crowell do?
Still wins.
I mean, he obviously died in the end, but he killed the guy.
Trump's fighting the left, one hand behind his back.
He's fighting the media.
He's fighting the globalist.
He's fighting the Islamist.
He's fighting everybody, and he's winning.
Can we address the fact that we're winning?
Trump, 10 years ago, we're going to win so much.
You're going to get sick of winning.
We'd always be like, what does that even mean?
This is what that means.
Show me how.
Wow, it's too early.
The U.S. No, no, I'm saying right now.
Yeah.
Show me how U.S.
losing because you're paying an extra dollar at the pump.
No, not.
Show me how U.S.
is losing.
But Adam,
because you're paying an extra dollar at the pump?
Not extra dollar,
but groceries and hold on.
We talked about,
hold on,
but Adam,
did you hear Carville?
You hooty,
that warning.
If we don't do,
no,
that's the real loss.
Adam,
no, that's,
no,
it's, Adam,
you can't dismiss that.
What is Carville?
Look how serious the
Adam,
Adam,
Adam,
and now we're taking what he says,
like,
it's not just him.
It's the entire left,
and they're gaining,
they're going to gain momentum.
Adam. Because we're winning a war of choice?
Because of all the stuff that's going on, but you can't,
you have to admit,
and I even wrote this down,
Adam,
how serious it is,
if we don't get voter ID and the mass deportation,
which they,
it seems like they just stopped because it didn't look good in Minnesota.
If they don't do the Save Act,
Adam,
we're toast.
You know,
you're conflating all the issues.
Let him say his thought.
I got some thoughts and I want to go to the next board.
They're going to get the,
from if Kalshi and all,
All these predictive markets are right at them.
It's not even a question about the House and the Senate and they're going to go after.
Too early to tell.
Let me tell you this.
Too early to tell you.
Let me tell you one thing you got to be thinking about.
If you could have Iran's on the deal, say we are able to do a regime change.
IRGC is gone.
New regime.
No nuclear.
They're peaceful.
Market opens up.
Sanctions lifted.
Iran becomes open.
Matter of fact, we're going to go to Iran do a podcast two years from now.
Okay, let's just put that as one of them.
Two, voter ID, where everybody now has to go through a voter ID, every single state, every single
this, you get that one.
Three, you get two additional Supreme Court justice seats in there, let's just say, four, you win
midterms and you win 2028 and it continues.
What else you want to add on that list on?
You want to, what other issues that are important?
I'm loving what I'm hearing.
No, but give me, give me what I'm voting for that.
You've got the Supreme Court.
decision on gerrymandering on district.
Perfect, gerrymandering.
What else you want to add on that list?
Here's what I want you to do.
Pick only two of them.
Not you first.
I know where one of yours is going to be.
What are your two out of those five?
Out of those five things I just said, what are your two?
Voter ID is if we don't.
I think for me it's one as well.
Okay, voter ID.
And then midterms, 2008, we have to win Palsworth.
So midterms, 2028 is.
Well, midterm, 2006.
26.
And then you said the presidency in 2020.
your top two? Well, voter ID solves a bunch of the things that are in there. That's right.
You can gerrymandering, you know, you can't gerrymandering with a bunch of illegals in it.
But if you have voter ID, you can't. That's number one for me. So save back voter ID number one for me.
Number two for me is now it's mitigating damage for 26. It's a midterms.
But if theoretically Iran was resolved. So you're okay if Iran doesn't get resolved. It's not your top two, top three.
No, no, no. It's absolutely, that's my given.
But no, the reason why I'm asking this is, I don't think for everybody, it's their top two.
That's kind of where I'm going.
For most Americans, it's for sure you're top two. I'm America first.
Iran, IRGC is gone. No more nuclear threat, okay? Sanctions are lifted. The market opens up.
They become like the new Dubai, new Saudi. You can go back and visit Iran. It's free. It's safe.
that's one of the five.
Yep.
Is that in your top two?
Do you think that's in my top two?
I would say,
I would say it's two, three.
I have it as four.
Okay.
Number one is the Save Act.
I don't know if it's going to happen.
We got to protect America.
I love it.
Look, that's number one to me.
America first.
What's your two?
Okay.
Number two, if that gets done,
midterms,
it's too early to tell about midterms.
I've been around long enough,
though we're going to lose.
It's going to be a red wave.
I'm not there yet, okay?
Try to give a short answer.
Supreme Court.
Supreme Court is important.
But I'm old enough to remember when they were going to pack the court five years ago.
And they didn't do it.
So then.
From a foreign perspective, yes, we're in the middle of Iran right now.
But the average person doesn't wake up and think about what's going on in Hormuz today.
Here's what I want you to think about.
Take that list, and this is on a podcast, take that list and give it to the president.
Would him have an access to all the information?
How do you rank what's on his list?
And that's what matters
because he got elected.
Everybody else talks.
Did you win an election?
Did you become a president?
Did you get shot in the year?
Did you get all that stuff that happened?
Did you go through all the criticism?
Did they go through your wife's drawer?
Did they go through all that?
No, they did it to him.
So guess what happens?
And that's after winning, losing,
and a lot of stuff is coming with 2020 election.
That's not going to be pretty for all those guys
that were playing games on the inside.
And he doesn't give up and comes back and wins again.
Yeah, guess what?
That's how elections were.
You know, when Obama, what was the time when he was given one of the speeches at the house
and somebody booed him and he looks at him and says, elections have consequences.
I'm the one that won.
Guess what?
Obama was right.
And guess what Trump is right?
You know, so we'll see what he wants to do.
But I will tell you, the concept of affordability is not going to be going away.
Let me get into the next story here of what happened with the whole Pope Leo.
So we know what happened with the comments towards Pope Leo said something about war.
He's not supportive of war and what's going on.
Trump responded back and said things about him.
And then another report asked him a question and said, hey, what do you think about the four people that are being executed in Iran?
Would one of them being a woman?
Trump responds back and says, why don't you ask the Pope?
The Pope then responds and says the following.
He says, Pope Leo says his tyrant's remarks were not aimed at Trump.
Trump. Okay. Is that a clip that you have Rob? Yes. Is this it? Yes, sir. Go forward.
It is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants. It is held together by a multitude of supportive brothers and sisters.
They are the descendants of Abraham, as numerous as the stars in the sky and the grains of sand on the seashore.
Let us look into each other's eyes. We are this immense people.
Peace is not something we must invent.
It is something we must embrace by accepting our neighbor as our brother and as our sister.
Rob, nothing in that video was about Trump.
So what do you want me to do with that video?
So the very first portion, that's the comment that they're saying he was making about President Trump.
Pope Leo came out and said he was not calling President Trump.
He said it in this video. Maybe I just wasn't listening.
It's the first thing.
I'm sorry, Rob. My mistake. Can you put that up again?
Sure.
the world is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants
it is held together by a multitude of supportive brothers and sisters
did he say Trump?
No, this is what they used to say that he was talking about Trump.
They're insinuating, yeah.
Is there a clip of him not saying anything about Trump?
Because I thought he said that in the first.
No, he didn't.
So let me know.
So Pope's Saturday remarks made this week
in which the world is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants.
The Pope's an angle of 10-day was prepared for two-week comments
as not accurate on all aspects.
and his speech was prepared two weeks ago
well before the president ever commented on myself of the speech
that I am promoting, he told Reuters,
the news outlets cited that the Pope's saying comments
were not aimed at Trump as it happens.
It was looked as if I was trying to debate the president,
which is not in my interest at all.
So good for him for saying that.
And then Pope Leo comes out and expands call for peace
to perceived war of words with Trump,
which is good, that he's taking that direction,
Rob, is this another clip by him?
This is.
Go for it.
There's been a certain narrative that has not been accurate in all of its aspects,
but because of the political situation created when on the first day of the trip,
President of the United States made some comments about myself.
Much of what has been written since then has been more commentary on commentary
trying to interpret what has been said.
Just one little example.
The talk that I gave at the prayer meeting for peace.
Oh, this is the clip.
A couple days ago, was prepared two weeks ago,
well before the president had ever commented on myself
and on the message of peace that I am promoting.
And yet, as it happens, it was looked at as if I was trying to debate again the president,
which is not my interest at all.
By the way, I don't know by you.
I love the way he communicates both messages.
I absolutely love the way.
And FYI, just so people know my position
because of my respond to Tucker Carlson
when he said he made the comparisons of,
you know, now they're comparing Catholics to Nazis
or whatever that was said.
I expect the Pope to not won war.
Of course.
I expect the Pope to not one.
So to me, a part of it is like,
he's supposed to not want it.
It's not controversial.
By the way, the way he just communicated,
you're seeing, I don't know the guy.
When he first was elected,
because he's a Chicago pro-Republican pro.
And I know Charlie came out and says, look, I don't know where the verdict is still out.
We're not going to know whether this guy's a globalist or not.
The verdict's out, and, you know, everybody was saying, well, let's wait to see what's going to happen with him.
I like the way he communicated.
I like the way the message he just gave.
You know, this is him representing 1.4 billion people.
And my expectation of somebody in a figure a figurehead like this is to say peace.
You're supposed to say that.
It's totally fine.
And try to do your best to stay out of politics.
Didn't the previous Pope do some events with transgender or I don't know what he was doing?
He bust them there and yeah, it was pretty bad.
Yeah.
So and then Trump stands firm on his remark against the Pope.
He hasn't changed his position.
Rob, I don't know if you have a clip on that.
Well, that's on the 16th.
And Pope's comments were on the 18th.
So it's kind of not fair to play that clip because it was a couple days prior to that.
I will tell you this.
The President is planning to join America Reads the Bible initiative amid spat with Pope Leo.
And I don't know when this is going to be happening.
So let me see where this is.
President Trump on Friday announced that he will attend a marathon,
reading of the Bible amid his few.
The group Christians engaged listed.
Trump, one of the many participants in the America Reads the Bible event,
which starts Saturday evening and runs for a week.
The president sent a statement that he applauds every citizen,
including every citizen participating in the America Rees the Bible initiative.
Together, we will honor Holy Scripture, renew our faith,
usher in historic resurgence of religion on American shores
and rededicate the United States as one nation under God.
Beautiful.
Elon, your thoughts on this.
Well, I just think it's a reminder of the fundamental difference
between moral authority and political authority.
I'm really happy that the Pope came out
and made that distinction super clear.
And I agree with you entirely.
I think it's nuts that people think the Pope calling for peace,
which is the actual message of the peers.
Yes, message of Christ.
What is the controversy there?
But that's a perfect example of the media trying to create.
Great division as always.
So I like how it ended up, though.
I like that we're about to have that reminder.
So number one, I respect the Pope, specifically this Pope.
By the way, did you catch he's got a kind of a Chicago accident?
I love it. I love it.
The Pope's Chicago.
I love it.
The Bears, bear, stuff, bear, stop, bear's the Pope, the Pope.
He's doing great.
Good for him.
So here's what we also know.
Stay in your lane.
Trump has an agenda.
And what we know about Trump,
if you get in his way,
you could be whoever coming down,
you could be the Pope,
you could be the Ayatollah,
you could be in that.
Rabbi, priest,
don't get in Trump's way.
Like you said earlier,
you wrestle with the pig.
You're both going to get muddy,
but the pig loves it.
Just don't do it.
I respect the Pope.
By the way, if we're going to talk.
The peacemakers and he got attacked.
Yeah, that's not cool.
It was the media that twisted.
So speaking of the media twisting it,
if you're going to talk about tyrants,
name the tyrants then.
Go ahead. If you're going to get involved in politics, whether you're the pump or not,
go ahead and say the tyrant's name.
Trump's on that list, guys.
But Adam, you ask you a question.
She, Putin, Kim Jong-in, whatever Ayatollah is alive at this point.
Maduro is in jail right now.
Lukashenko in Belarus.
There's a whole list of tyrants before Trump's name should even be mentioned.
Last but not least, read the Bible.
That's great.
Good for Trump.
I know you don't think Trump's a Christian or whatever.
He isn't.
Trump represents America.
Trump's trying to put God first in America.
Here's the last point.
You want the left dictating biblical prophecy.
You want the far left talking about God.
They don't believe in God.
Communists literally ban God.
So whatever you think of Trump, at least he's serving the Lord above.
What are you going to say, Elon?
No, I was going to say that, don't you still think it's, I mean, we know how Trump talks,
we know how Trump is, but it's not a good look to go.
You know, you're saying Trump can, we'll go after anyone who goes after.
The Pope is probably one of the few people you should give a little bit of that.
A little bit of lenient.
Can you play this clip, Rob, can you play this clip?
Anton did a poll on Pope Leo and Trump to show popularity,
to show the influence the Pope has.
This is important to know numbers like this and pay attention to it.
Go ahead, Rob.
The American public at large, John.
Look at this.
It is a blow on the net popularity rating.
Pope Leo the 14th at plus 34.
Look at where Donald Trump is.
Nine is 12. It's not even close. It's a nearly 50-point blowout amongst the American public at large.
Pope Leo the 14th absolutely crushing President Trump when it comes to how popular they are, at least as of the last month.
And I will note that Pope Leo was the most popular person tested by NBC News.
I believe the president is making a humongest.
There's a part of this poll when you look at it. It's mathematically impossible for the president's popularity to be hired in Pope Leo's.
mathematically impossible.
So I know this looks like, oh my God, maybe the Pope should run for office.
No, no, it's a different story when they're polling this.
This was the list they made that who was the least disliked person?
What was it?
Was it, you guys remember, was Elon Musk and Beebe or something like that?
And it was UPS, some weird names were on that list.
I don't know what was on that list.
UPS.
No, I don't know what it was.
Tom, your thoughts on this.
So I was really irritated for most of the,
also this thing because number one, there's nothing to be gained in a spat with the Pope.
No.
That's the one guy.
There's just really nothing to be gained.
You got to back off.
And I think, you know, and this may not be popular, I think Trump got baited because I think it was the news media that was trying to create the controversy.
Because remember, anything that can make Trump look bad, you know, they want to pin on him.
Anything that they can create another group being upset, they want to create it.
they want to foam it.
So it's basically the entire left phone.
I'm going to stop calling him the MSM.
I'm going to start calling him the Sololinski gang, right?
Because they're just using the same techniques, you know, of the underground, right, to go and do this.
And so it's like, hey, Mr. President, don't bite on these things on stuff like this.
And I think that's what happened.
And it's, it's annoying.
BPD, can you help me be positive for a second?
this is the first American Pope.
We have a pro-America president.
What can the Pope and Trump do to help unify America?
Because the only way America is ever going to lose anything
is if you manufacture the fracture.
If there's a fracture inside here,
have they met yet in person?
What can they do to bring America together?
What can the Pope and Trump do to work together
to help America win more?
Have you thought about that?
Listen, I don't know.
But let me ask you a question.
if you were a betting person, would you bet that the Trump, that the President Trump and the Pope are going to do something together before the end of the year?
They have to. Yes. What do you think? I think this actually might turn out to be a good public. I know. I know. I actually think they're going to do something together because I think the Pope will. The Pope will do something together. Anything that brings more attention to the Christianity and the fate, you ought to do it. So I think that's going to be taking place. I was not.
never a fan of the picture that was posted. I've never been a fan of stuff like that, ever,
never ever play God. Like there is a, if you ever read the book, 40 laws of power,
you know what law number one is? Never outshine the master. Never, ever. And, and not only that's
the book, and we're Assyrians, we learned the hard way, you know, we're trying to, Vinnie and I
have been trying for 47 years to go back and do vacation at, uh, Syria, the country. We're having
a hard time finding the place. Yeah. It's not on the map. And there's a reason for that. Let me continue.
Let me continue.
Oh, Syria.
All right, let me get to the next story.
Next story I want to get to is maybe a quick story.
Rob, can you pull up this poll?
You just had it.
You had one of the tweets of showing which type of kids, do you know which one I'm talking about,
Rob, which political party deals with the most amount of mental illness?
Have you seen this?
No.
Have you seen this, Vinny?
No.
Check this out.
So make it bigger, Rob, so we can kind of show it to the audience.
Watch this.
percentage of younger people diagnosed with a mental health problem,
whites under the age of 40.
Look at that.
56% of kids under the age of whites under 40 who are strong Democrats.
41% of those that are weak Democrats,
35% of independence, 30% of weak Republicans,
50% of strong.
We found a cure.
We found the cure to mental health.
It is.
How do you process this information, Tom, when you read this?
I like to thank you all for being here today.
We'll be back Wednesday.
I'd like to end on a high note.
How do I process this?
How do you process it?
I'll tell you how I process this.
I'd be process on a processing line and on a logic line.
So logic and emotion.
You could draw the line of logic from strong Republican to a motion on strong Democrat.
You could.
You could draw it that way.
And I also believe you could do processing, willingness to process.
So close-minded.
I think if you do close-minded versus open-minded, you know what I mean, Pat, like willing to debate, willing to process.
Hey, look, I'm open enough minded to listen to your point.
You may not move me, but I'm willing to listen to your point.
Who says that?
Strong Republican or strong Democrat?
No, the strong Republican says that.
Willing to debate, willing to be open.
Strong Democrat says, no, you're wrong.
You should be canceled.
and shut down.
So this lines up with me,
and I think it lines right up with a logic and a motion line,
and it lines right up with a willing to process,
not willing to process.
And guess what?
Unwilling to process, close-minded,
and unwilling to debate,
and you end up in your own anger.
Guess what you have?
You have these screaming middle-aged white women
that we've seen in videos going,
what is her problem and what is going on?
I think there's a major correlation here
between what people use as their identity.
If you looked at strong Democrats, they identify with material things like gender identity,
their sexual orientation, all these things.
You go down the list, you get to strong Republican, and their identity comes from faith.
I've suffered from mental health issues.
I've suffered from all types of stuff.
And faith was the one thing that saved me.
And I guarantee you, if you look at that 15% strong Republican,
the reason that it's so low comparatively is because they have something to root that.
What a great point.
What a great point, Vinnie.
I agree 100%.
And if you think about it, by, you don't get it.
to 56% by accident
when you raise a generation inside of a system
that leads one way from top
to bottom. Think about it. And you mentioned
this multiple times, Pat, the schools, the
colleges, the professors, they're all
pushing that woke agenda
nonsense. It's hate, it's anger
from the media, from all the fears,
from all the crisis, from social media,
from the gender stuff and everything.
Fake news and all
that stuff, that's them.
When I was on peers, Pat, I did that thing about
before and after, these people that have Trump,
the arrangement syndrome, and I tell people
they just had everybody, and Trump
love them or hate them, however you feel
you have to admit what he did
to the system made people go
absolutely nuts.
And I connected a guy yesterday and I told him
there should be a class action lawsuit
and I'm not being funny at all
for what they did to people's brains
because, bro, TDS is an actual thing
where psychiatry, I mean, that's it.
I agree with you, Vinnie.
Like, shouldn't they all get together and say,
hey, you lied?
And mind you, if Trump, Adam,
if Trump is out there,
You think God came out of it, right?
If Trump is out there and he's made, what, I think 60 or 70 million suing, whoever he sued, all these major networks, because they lied, if you've ruined somebody's brain where they turned into a corville and they're like everybody, that, if that has happened to you, I think you should get a class action, get a lawyer and go and sue them.
So that goes to the diagnosed with mental health problems.
That's what it is.
You don't talk to anybody.
You're in your bubble.
You know, your parents are just jamming drugs down your throat.
you don't have any faith in you.
Ritalin.
Ritalin.
What is a woman?
If that's where you're at, this chart is by the data,
is by the U.S. general social survey.
This isn't some rinky dink survey.
This is legitimate.
And I think it's just a testament and example of what these people are just brainwashing
you with when you're falling for it.
I did a study on mass psychosis.
I don't know if you guys know the Ash experiment and Milgram experiment back in the day.
Two very unique experiments to see how people could harm people in their own circle.
One of them was the one where they literally put people into shock people and authorities telling them to.
The other one was about conformity, the Ash Conformity experiment, where you had lines,
and people would literally deny what they saw with their own eyes because everyone else said these lines don't line up.
We're seeing that today with the Democratic Party.
I did a social experiment where I had people come in.
They thought they were on a TV show.
They thought that they were there to cancel somebody.
They had the choice.
There were two other judges.
There were social media influencers.
Everyone was an actor except for them.
They thought it was live TV.
and we had a guy in the other room
who had apparently wrote a book about affirmative action
and was a lawyer
and because of the social pressure,
every single person voted to cancel that person
for his book and ruin his life.
We made it harder because I wanted to see
if humanizing people would work.
We brought people into the room to meet him
accidentally before like in the way to go
and then we came in and we said, oh, you weren't supposed to meet.
But while they were in the room, the lawyer,
the fake lawyer, said my daughter has leukemia
I wrote this book to take care of her.
They still canceled him.
Oh, my God.
When you want to understand, only one person was not willing to cancel him and he had an emotional breakdown.
When you want to understand how deep this is, I sat there watching almost in tears.
As I watched people proudly destroy someone's life whose daughter they believed had leukemia and needed this treatment.
They did not care because he wrote a book on affirmative action.
So this is, you're literally right when you say it's mass psychosis.
I think it is. I truly, truly think it is.
And it all started with Trump's victory.
So you're asking the question, what's the biggest difference between the,
this chart between a far-left Democrat.
It's a regular Republican.
I mean, there's a couple of things at the foundation.
One believes in equality.
One believes in equity, the foundation right there.
One wants control.
One wants freedom.
Liberty, right?
Remember the speech that the new face of the Democratic Party,
Zoran Mamdani gave when he was sworn in?
He says, we're going to replace rugged individualism
with the warmth blank.
of collective as a.k a.k.a. Marxism.
Yeah. AKA communism.
AKA, we're going to seize the means of production.
Manufactured fracture.
Manufactured the fracture.
What's going on here?
Tom hit the nail in the head with emotions.
You know, facts don't care about your feelings.
You talk about not having God, atheism, anti-God.
All of it leads to a point where they're going insane,
and then you have just people with common sense being like,
I don't like what's going on here.
And they say something about it.
I didn't get a chance to say,
remember that video that you just played about
Karina Maria Machado?
And I go, is that in Brazil?
Venezuela goes in Spain.
I don't know if you can pull that up, just the tagline.
They said, all right-wing people
need to realize what's going on.
No.
Common sense people.
Because you don't need to,
people ask you, are you Republican?
I'm a common sense, bro.
If I see the Republicans go off the Richter scale,
I'll go back to the left.
But at this point, here it is right here.
Let me tell you, though.
The left is so insane.
How can you endorse that?
I get it.
But to me, that entire chart, go back to that chart, Rob, and I want to play another
clip that Tom, you're probably not expecting me to play this clip, but I want to get your
reaction to it.
The only difference here is, which one of these guys you think goes to church the most?
The strong Republican?
The strong Republican.
Of course.
Kids who go, dude, we're on a flight.
Like, listen, my boys, their faith, we're in the car in Vinnie.
will say stuff and Dylan will, and that's what happened.
And then Tico Vintan, they go to school and, you know, and they're heavily involved in it.
But I will tell you, we're on the flight.
I wish you were on this flight just to experience this with us.
We're on the flight.
We're traveling.
We're 47 years old.
This is top five worst flight of my lifetime.
The pilot is deciding in terrible weather with strong winds to go around a mountain to a private.
airport that no one has been landing all day, our pilot, okay, cowboy. This guy's like,
okay, we're going to go do it. And me and Vinny are sitting there in the back, playing
cards very calm, but we're not worried about. We're like this, okay. And Dylan is just sitting
there. Tico's talking to us. Senna was playing a joke with Vinny. Vinny, she's like,
hey, see you in heaven and just joke. Not the types of jokes you're supposed to say.
Like they haven't been briefed on it, they got briefed afterwards. And then we land and we're
Talking to Dylan, we're like, Dylan, you weren't scared at all?
No.
Why not?
What's the worst thing that's going to happen?
I'm going to meet Jesus.
Wow.
By the way, he says this, reactional like this.
Reaction like this.
I didn't have that as a kid.
Yeah.
Like this.
Faith plays a massive, massive role in mental health problems.
Because for you, no matter what you're going throughout a conversation late last night
with somebody that just, this is an area they really have a hard time with.
It's a family member.
And I'm on the phone.
I'm like, I said, you've got to figure right away to get close
because everything to you is the end of the world and everything is crisis.
You don't even know it.
Every time you call, I told this person this last night,
every time you call, your name is on the phone.
What feeling you think you provide to the other people that's seeing you when you call them?
Whether you know it or not, whoever you call and whoever calls, you produce a feeling when you see their name on the phone.
Oh, yeah.
I said, you know what feeling you provide when you call?
What?
This person said what?
I said, anxiety.
Oh, man.
Every single time.
I say, you do that to everybody.
You don't even know it.
You don't even know it.
Every time your name is on the phone is anxiety.
I know 50% of bad news is going to be delivered.
Why?
Faith is not in that person's life.
They're not going in thinking that the few.
looks bright because the whole, what's the whole kind, like, what is the backbone of future
looks bright? Like, we talk about future looks bright. They're just selling hats and shirts
and all this stuff. Do you really want to know the, why do you think, why do you think the whole
FLB brand can sell a hat that says faith over fear? Why? Because future looks bright,
looks bright because we have faith over fear. Like the whole concept is faith. If you don't have
faith. How do you know the future looks bright? You tell me where the concept of future looks bright
comes from if you don't have faith. How do you know? You don't know. Well, why are you so optimistic?
I just got faith. What am I going to tell you? I just feel everything's going to work out.
So I do believe that, you know, as you look at that chart and Jonathan Hyatt, if you haven't
yet read his book, Anxious Generation, I've been recommended this book for two years. Parents,
do yourself a favor and go look at it. I want to play another clip here.
This other clip I want to play you is a story of, let me find this clip.
Rob, did I text it to you or not?
I may or may not text it to you.
If I didn't, let me send it over your way.
Here's a man who he's being interviewed to talk about what technology has done to our kids
and what the role of technology has been historically every single time we introduce new technology to kids.
Rob, I want you to play the one from X.
because it's a lot cleaner without the start.
So here's Dr. Jared Cooney Horvath, okay?
Let's forget about his middle name,
but Dr. Jared Horvath is giving this message.
And I want to, can you go all the way to the top, Rob, for me to read some of the quote?
Okay, he breaks down, delivered the brutal truth parents and educators need to face.
His core warning, Gen Z is the first modern generation to be, well, I'll let him say it.
Rob, played a clip. It is so powerful. How long is it? Man, we can't watch the whole thing, but we'll watch the first two minutes. Go ahead, Rob.
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My name is Dr. Jared Cooney-Horbath.
I'm a former teacher turned cognitive neuroscientist who focuses on human learning.
And I do not receive funding, nor have I ever from Big Tech.
So a sad fact our generation has to face is this.
Our kids are less cognitively capable than we were at their age.
Since we've been standardizing and measuring cognitive development since the late 1800s,
every generation has outperformed their parents.
And that's exactly what we want.
We want sharper kids.
And the reason for this largely has been school.
Each generation spends more time in school.
We use school to develop our cognition.
Congratulations, you see your correlation.
Until Gen Z,
Gen Z is the first generation of modern history
to underperform us on basically every cognitive measure we have.
From basic attention to memory, to literacy, to numeracy,
to executive functioning, to even general IQ,
even though they go to more school than we did.
So why?
Even though they go to more school than we did.
Listen.
That decoupled schooling from cognitive development.
It can't be school.
Schools basically look the same.
It can't be biology.
this hasn't enough time to change.
The answer appears to be the tools we are using within schools to drive that learning.
Across 80 countries, as Jean was just saying,
if you look at the data once countries adopt digital technology widely in schools,
performance goes down significantly,
to the point where kids who use computers about five hours per day in school for learning purposes
will score over two-thirds of a standard deviation less than kids who rarely or never touch tech at school.
And that's across 80 countries.
Bring it home to the U.S. Let's go to the U.S.
We have our N-A-E-P.
That's our big data.
Take any state, and here's a fun experiment, you can try.
take any state NAEP data.
Compare that to win that state adopted one-to-one technology widely,
and watch what happens.
The NAEP data will plateau and then start to drop.
Now, as Gene said, of course, this is all correlative.
What we really want is causative.
To get causation, what you need is academic research
and you need mechanisms, explanations for why we're seeing what we're seeing.
Luckily, we have academic research stretching back to 1962
that shows the exact same story for 60 years.
When tech enters education, learning goes down.
In fact, one of the biggest ed psychologist right now,
Dylan William out of the UK,
He recently said, Ed Tech is a revolution that's been coming for 60 years,
and we're going to have to wait another 60 because it ain't doing anything.
Now, that's research, but now we need mechanisms.
Luckily, over the last about two decades,
we've been doing a lot of work in what we call the science of learning.
How do human beings learn?
And we now have the clear understanding of why tech does not work for learning,
and it is all biological.
It's not that the tech isn't being used well enough.
We haven't been trained enough.
We need better programs.
It's we have evolved biologically to learn from other human beings,
not from screens.
And screens circumvent that process.
I won't go too deeply into the mechanisms they can get boring, but just know they're there if you want to talk about them.
So that leaves us with two options.
Option one, when you know something is wrong, do better.
So we could just say, hey, may a colpa get some of this tech out of schools, go back to what we know work, some analog methods?
Cool.
Or two, we could redefine our terms.
We could redefine what it means to be an effective learner.
I want to end with one quick story here.
Think back to your childhood, to your schooling.
I guarantee all of us at one point took a test on reading comprehension.
And the way it looked is this.
Here's a passage of about 750 words.
Here are 10 to 12 questions about that passage.
Most of them are inferential, not factual.
They're asking you to go beyond what you just read to see what you understood.
Cool.
Last year, the SATs had a reading comprehension section.
Here's what it looked like.
Here is a single sentence of 75 words.
Here is one question fact-based about that sentence.
Next.
Here is another sentence of 75 words.
Here is one question about that sentence.
Next.
Last year, they redefined reading comprehension
to mean 54 short sentences with one question about each.
That is skimming.
That's not reading.
Why would we ever do that?
Because what do kids do on computers?
They skim.
So rather than determining what do we want our children to do and gearing education towards that, we are redefining education to better suit the tool.
That's not progress.
Exactly.
Exactly.
What a powerful thing that this fellow is talking about.
Tom, your thoughts on this?
So married to a teacher, I'll tell you a very, very interesting story here.
They've done tests with live human teachers.
And what they did, they took a group of kids, and they told the kids.
And Dennis Waitley, the psychology of winning.
He talked about this in a, I saw him give a talk.
This goes way back.
I think he passed away a couple years ago.
No, he wrote one of the best motivational books of all time that athletes read,
business owners read, business salespeople, it's a phenomenal book.
Yep.
And so what do you talk about?
A teacher goes into a class.
An average public high school that's in a marginal area of town, not downtown, not uptown,
just average.
And what they did, it was like fifth grade, they said, by the way, all of the students in this class, according to the tests that we've been taking are high achieving students.
Congratulate yourselves.
You're all high achieving students.
And so what they did, they kept reinforcing that.
And they reinforce it, reinforce it.
And Kim can tell you about this.
Guess what happens?
The test scores there were better than the previous year's class of students.
student. Why? Because what did they put in the kids' head? The assumption that we're going to do well,
and it was human teaching, looking at them, and directly complimenting them. Wow, Elon, that's
really, really good. This is why you're all in here this class with us, where we're all going to do
very well together, where we're all very good at this. And so what happens is it goes right into the,
here we go, the subtle what of what?
You know?
Low expectations.
Correct.
That's exactly what it is.
So human teaching and connecting with human and instilling, you know, quality impressions,
and then teaching human to human works best.
Now, can you read a book?
Can the textbook be on, you know, an e-book?
Sure it can.
And if you're going to read and read and read, it can.
But this is absolutely correct.
that digital leads to skimming and skimming leads to lower comprehension.
And now even the SAT has completely taken a left turn.
If the SAT or the Stanford 9 will go back to taking the large blocks and then test inferential,
we would be, there would be a parental uprising in America.
But against who?
The teachers unions in every town.
And we can't have that.
Do you actually think it's better to take the technologies out, Tom?
I think if the technology is only used to like, so you don't have to print the book, I like that.
I want human connection.
You know what happened yesterday?
I'm having a conversation with one of the younger boys in our family.
Okay?
I'm going to try to say this in a way that, you know, we can't figure out who it is.
Love this kid.
It's phenomenal.
Very, very good kids.
So a week ago, I bought him a book.
Okay. And I gave him this book nine days ago. And while he's with me, I ask him a question. I say, by when will you finish this book? Now, he's not a reader. So he doesn't read books. And school grades is okay. But he's not like a straight-A kid that, you know, ACEs everything. That's not him. His strength is in a different place. He's got a high EQ, okay? Not on this side. So he's got a very, very high EQ like, so anyways.
I said, when will you finish this book?
He says to me, by next Friday,
meaning two days ago, three days ago,
I said, I'm going to ask you to you one more time
because whatever you tell me, I'm going to hold you to it.
When will you finish this book?
He said, no, I'm telling you by next Friday.
So, okay, no, I'm the wrong guy to make a commitment
and say and not do it.
Oh, yeah.
He says, no, I'm telling you.
That's what's going to happen.
That's great.
Friday, he texts me.
I said, where are you at?
He said, I'm at page 50.
I haven't finished the book.
I said, yeah, listen, I'm not interested in this kind of stuff that you're doing with me.
If you want me to work with you, and then I asked the parents, how much leeway are you given me to challenge your kid?
I specifically ask him, I said, I want to be aligned because I don't want you to come back and see you're pushing too hard.
And they said, we're on the same page.
We're aligned.
Fantastic.
I'm going to push them.
And if you're okay with it, I'm going to go hard.
No problem.
Text me.
I'm not responding back because you didn't respond.
respond back to my commitments. Great.
Calls me yesterday, sends me a report,
finish the book, cover to cover, and
late at night, 8, 8.30, whatever time it is,
he says, hey, when can we talk? All the day he's texted me,
what can we talk, when can we talk? I said, when I get a time, I'll call you.
So I call him. And he said, go ahead. What did you take away from the book?
He starts telling me what it took away from the book. Tom.
I even it was as if he saw a new world
because he's never read a business book
he doesn't read books like this
and by the way it's a phenomenal book
that every parent who has a kid playing sports
you have to have your kids read this book
we probably sold 5,000 copies of books today
and we're not even as none of these books are ours
we're terrible at selling but so
he's like well and he said this
and then he was telling the story about this girl
and he said this.
And then this one girl that was playing tennis
and he said this, you could see the shine
versus, you know, when the phone is,
he's always like this.
Because it's always, it drives me insane.
You know our kids, my oldest son is 14 years old.
He still has no social media.
He's the only kid that has no social media.
Zero.
He has nothing.
His phone, it's only because he goes running
and mom's trying to get a hold of him.
Dylan's like that.
When can I get a phone?
All my friends.
sent us nine years old.
Her friends at eight years old had cell phone and social media.
The kids have nothing.
It's so hard to keep it apart for this long.
By the way, can we recommend the book, Rock?
Can you pull up the book?
It's called The Game of Tennis.
I think it's a green book, Rob.
If you can pull this up, it's got nothing to do with tennis.
The Intergame of Tennis.
It's the inner game of tennis of mentally developing the mindset
that a ton of professional quarterbacks, athletes,
have read this book.
Coaches have been recommended this book.
It's an incredible book to read,
the inner game of tennis by Timothy Galway.
Look at the number of reviews, by the way.
9,872 reviews written in 1997, and the foreword is Pete Carroll.
You kind of see this.
The coach.
Yeah, Pete Carroll.
So what are your thoughts about what he said in the video?
I think that human nature strives for efficiency.
Sometimes that's extremely good.
Sometimes it leads to, I think, what we're seeing now, which is the, in many ways,
not to sound like weird, but like the death of the human spirit.
because what you were just talking about, you know, reading a book
where your mind has to work to create the imagery,
your mind has to understand.
We're going more and more and more efficient.
I don't even think we're touching the start of what this will lead to
because with AI, the tools become exponentially more efficient.
It's not like a regular linear curve.
This will exponentially increase to the point where all information,
every task, everything is done for humans.
It's like the movie Wally back in the day.
Humans are not intended, we're intended to struggle.
So we're reaching a point where we're going to have to create our own struggle.
I think it's Pandora's box.
It's out of the box at this point.
We're not going to go back to before this.
The question is, how do we deal with it now that it's here?
How do we get people to understand that this isn't necessarily a good thing?
And, yeah, I'm very, very worried about what this looks like in the future.
I've been looking at AI for a very long time.
And I get to see it in real time because when we're out or we're at a dinner and there's four kids,
none of them are on a phone.
They don't have a phone.
When I tell you the conversations at Tom, you're there all the time, Pat, it's a, bro, we're sitting all around each other, and I have a 14-year-old that will not stop talking to me about God, about Jesus, about politics, about, did you see this?
Do you see that?
As he's still talking, Dylan is talking about Uncle Vinny, sports, what about this?
What about that?
Senna's talking, it's, bro, you're immersed in conversation, nobody.
And then me and Humberto, yesterday we're at Cheesecake Factory, very, very, very big.
big menu. I highly recommend you do research before you go. There's the
especially if you know,
umberto. The menu, no joke is like this. Umberto like
it was it, we were arguing over. That's a reading and get a bird in itself. That's a
book in itself. Yeah. Shout out the cheesecake factory author. But uh,
we're sitting there. We're sitting there and Huberto can vouch you back. I'm sitting
up. It's a parent, uh, husband, wife, one more friend. The kids for one hour.
I, not even joking. We're like this. And the kid has big,
Glock goggles because he's like this, he can't see.
And not one peep from any of the kids until they left.
And then as they're walking away, the kid can't even put it down.
And the parent had to grab it.
I'm telling you right now, it's an uncomfortable conversation because I see it.
The kids are like, well, these people have it.
These people have it.
They don't understand the great thing that you're giving them because at some point, it's inevitable, bro.
They're going to be 16.
They're going to be 18.
They're going to have it.
But this development stage, you have to have.
have it because, bro, you could go on a road trip
with Tico, he shuts the music off. He goes, I want to just talk
to you, Uncle Vinny. I'm like, we can put whatever
you want. He's like, no, I want to talk.
For an hour in the car, he just
wants to have a conversation. I think that's what you
have to do is that uncomfortable moment because
guess what? Everybody else has one.
You're not going to have one. And I think
that's a hard conversation to have.
Look, I think this is probably the most important
conversation in America today.
What are kids are
learning and reading and using tech
and when they should be able to use tech?
So Tico's 14 hasn't had a cell phone yet.
My nephew's 13 has no cell phone.
He wanted to get one for his bar mitzah.
We said, nah-uh, buddy, wait until you're 16.
That's a whole conversation.
Why?
That story you just told about whoever that was,
how old he doesn't read books,
but he didn't have the highest IQ,
had a high EQ.
That was me.
I remember in high school,
look, I did not want to read books.
I would get good grades just because I knew stuff I would study.
But if you give me a 200-page book,
I'd be like, can we get some cliff notes over here?
Remember when cliff notes were a thing?
Yeah.
Think about this now.
Cliff notes, you have to go buy it.
It was still 50 pages.
You can do a chat GPT.
Give me the book summary of any book you want.
Bingo.
So, you know, someone said to me that it goes,
if you put the work in, it'll work out.
I said, oh, I like that.
The problem is easy.
You don't have to put any work in.
Life is so easy.
You can get it, whatever you want, snap of a finger,
press of a button.
And then what happens?
They get anxious.
They get depressed because we're making up problems in America today.
What's the book?
Anxious Generation.
Amazing.
John and Height, they're making up things to get depressed about and anxious about because of this.
Yeah.
This is the greatest tool or greatest weapon, depending on how you look at it.
Parents, parents, it's on you, though, parents.
It's totally on you.
It's not easy.
I get it.
People will meneck.
And trust me, as a parent, I screw up all.
All the flipping time parenting.
You make mistakes.
All the flipping time.
You ain't going to do it right.
Like, you know, all of us are like, you ever go out to dinner
and a husband and wife are there and it's like,
oh my God, we just celebrate our anniversary?
And then, so what did your husband do?
And a wife starts explaining what the husband did.
And you're like, can you already just shut up?
Everything was so perfect.
And your wife is sitting there and it's like,
why can't she do something like that for me?
You know, it's like all this stuff.
I'm like, oh, my God.
And then you're like, okay, all right, I want to go to dinner with husbands.
Like, honestly, I forgot the.
That's my kind of like, right?
Right there.
I like this guy.
You made all of us, you know, and so this is a good guy.
He's going places.
Protect that, man.
Right.
But the point is this is you're going to fail.
You're going to screw up.
You're going to make mistakes as a parent.
All of us are.
None of us are walking on water as parenting.
You're going to screw this thing up.
But, man, there's a handful of places do not screw up with
because we're about to lose Tom right now.
There's a handful of places do not screw up.
Giggedy.
Don't become the parent that says,
but let him just play for a little bit.
It's easy. Let him just have a little bit.
Saturday, Sunday, fine.
Monday through Friday, lock it up.
And then for Saturday and Sunday,
give a certain time that they can do if they don't.
Like, you know, our guys,
our girls have to do leg races, okay?
Brooklyn will literally have to do 50 leg raises.
Steps on the table.
comes down right and left and then Senna has to do 50 she likes and Dylan has to do his training but
create something for them to get it it's not easy I understand Tom I think you wanted to say something
before we go to the next door yeah I just give a how to we all often talk about things we don't give
a how to here number one no social media number two when the kid comes home put the phone in a
charger in the kitchen the phone is there for communication and safety because I know many
parents want their kids have that phone at school but the other thing is get them a regular
Kindle? The Kindle that just
have the books on it. Now you can put all the
books on the Kindle, they can highlight it,
and you're reading. And you're not distracted
by any notifications or anything
that, oh, I'll put the Kindle app on the phone.
No. It's $100.
You can get a Kindle for $109
or something right now.
Those little thin Kindles are about the size of
a book because you want the kids
to read a book. That way they're immersed without
distraction. So those are the only two
how-toes I'll get is, and I'm not
trying to be proponent for Kindle, but it's a last man
standing after Nook and Sony Reader and all those.
Tom, just put your, Rob, put his
link for his paper, put us the
affiliate link.
No, because I'll be gooder than you.
Tom just made $100,000.
But they have that paperless
thing on it, which is really good also.
It's not using blue light. It's excellent.
Yeah, correct. And Bailey, I'll give you
a fast, fast story. She reads
this book, all quiet on the Western Front.
And she's reading it, classic book.
She's reading it in paper format.
And every now and then I see a little
pencil notes in there. And I'm like, she wasn't asked to highlight anything, but she made little
pencil notes. And on the very last page, because you know what happens at the end, Paul dies.
Yeah, of course. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. All of us, this is 19-18 World War I. All of his
friends die in the book. He looks like he's going to make it. And on the last page, last book,
it says, today's report, all quiet on the Western's front. But Paul has been shot. And he dies.
underneath in capital letters.
No!
Because it's almost the end of the book
and you're thinking there it's going to go there.
And we had a great conversation about the book.
And there's the second point.
Talk to your kids about the books.
Just like Pat did.
I can't believe you're going to tell me that.
Next thing you're going to tell me that blue died in old school.
You realize as he was telling that story,
somebody that's listening to this right now bought the book
and then they're like, damn, you.
They bought it right if they brought it up.
Let me go to the next door.
It was a movie.
It's like the thing with Obama or Trump won.
Hey, quick shout out to Alan Yesamete, who just bought 10 PBD podcast gift memberships.
I don't know if I've done the last shot out for three years.
I'm just giving a shout out to that guy, wherever you are, whoever you are, you're the man.
All right, let me get to this next part.
So story comes out of Idaho, okay?
Idaho.
Idaho governor signs into law, child sex abuse.
death penalty bill despite U.S. Supreme Court ruling.
Nice.
So widely supporting the Idaho legislator, the bill is likely to face constitutional challenges.
Lawmakers acknowledge, but they are hopeful law will prevail.
Now look at the date there.
If you look at the date, what's the date?
March 27.
So let me read this to you on what this is really all about and what it means and how
different this is than everywhere else.
Okay.
So this is called the House Bill 380, Governor Brandt,
little, okay, in regards to death penalty for a new offense called aggravated lewd conduct
with a child age 12 years or younger. This covers certain severe sexual abuse cases against very
young children under 12, but only if the case meets at least three of the 17 specific aggravated
factors, okay, multiple incidents, use of force, causing injury, transmitting a disease, etc., etc.
If that happens, Idaho made, you ready for this?
Firing Squad.
Oh, my God.
The state's primary method of execution, effective around mid-2020s,
replacing the lethal injection as the default due to drug shortages.
Firing Squad.
Okay, Vinny, Firing Squad.
The lawmaking firing squad permit method takes into effect July 1st of 2026.
Before that day, the state cannot use it as a default.
And executions overall have been paused while the prison builds and prepares a new firing squad facility.
They're building a firing squad facility for folks like the construction and training are still underway.
What kind of training are you going to need for this?
You know, what is the training?
The aim or the front side is.
Idaho has not carried out any execution by any method since June of 2012.
The last attempt was in 2024 on Thomas Creech, failed.
due to inability to establish lines for lethal injection.
There are currently about eight or nine people on Idaho's death row,
all sentenced under the new old rules,
primarily for aggravated first degree murder,
no new death sentences.
And the 2025 child sex accused,
HB law 380 have resulted in an execution yet,
and none could because, you know, it's going through it.
But can you imagine if all of a sudden,
once this passes, July,
somebody does something in Idaho,
public execution?
Rob, when is the last time America even had a public execution?
Was it 70s, early 80s?
No, I don't think it's been public.
I think executions have been closed.
These guys are talking about public execution.
So, Tom, I'm going to come to you first.
What are your thoughts on this?
Because we've been reading, by the way, I saw a story.
I don't even want to read the story to it's so disturbing.
Honestly, parents, if you're watching this,
I'm just going to tell you, do me a favor.
and don't take a pause on this side to not show it.
Did you see about the girl on Snapchat what she was willing to do with her daughter?
Did you see what happened to this lady?
Rob, do you have that clip?
I do.
I'm telling you right now to parents, don't have your kids watch this next section.
Let me just read this, Rob.
Oh, it's a clip that you have played a clip, Rob.
Play the clip.
And then I'll read the news.
Watch this.
You don't have audio?
Okay, they're just showing the clip of who she is.
Okay. So here.
Here's a lady.
They have the message.
Now let me read them.
Let me read the message, Rob.
Okay.
Indiana mom of seven accused of Rob, I can't see the top.
Offering her seven-month-old daughter for sex to a man on Snapchat and exchange for $400.
Unbelievable.
32-year-old Morgan staff denied sending the message, but police said it was sent from her phone at her home.
Stap reported sent three photos of her infant daughter with the message.
You can.
For $400.
Half now rest later.
I'll send my address.
I do live alone.
And her dad is not in the picture.
Snapchat flagged the message, send it to the authorities, 10 days that the FBI agents arrived at her home.
She was booked into Marion County jail on July 8th, held for a hundred thousand dollar bail.
What should happen to this person?
You're still not believing this, Rob.
Can you, can you, while we're doing this, can you, because I went to look at Grom to see other people saying this is this a true story?
And at the bottom, you find it.
You see, look at this.
This is People magazine.
Mom of Seven arrested.
What should happen to somebody like this?
I mean, Pat, the fact that, first of all, I want everybody to...
Facing 10 to 30 years in prison, if convicted of the level to felony.
I want people to understand, like, seven-month old.
And this is the part that should really, really bother everybody.
Do you think this was the first time she did it?
Do you think this was her first time that she's had somebody come?
I really pray to God.
Well, what I'm saying is that's God, like, this is when you catch the people.
And like, you know how I feel with anything that has to do with children.
You know, Matthew, I always bring up Matthew chapter 18 verse 6.
It's one of the worst things that God says if you cause any of these young ones to stumble.
Besides, go take a millstone around your neck and thrown into the deepest part of the ocean.
This is horrible.
Hartman also found 7,000 messages had been sent in October 29th and November 1st, 7,03 days,
said the affidavit, including 81 that said,
would you be interested in buying my nude so I can get baby diapers?
Okay?
So now go back to the public execution, Tom, in Idaho,
and what they're going with this.
How do you, just look at Tom's face right now,
how annoyed he is with the story.
Go ahead, Tom.
What's on your mind?
Well, let's break this thing into two parts.
I have no problem with due process
and legal precedent being put forth to put on the books,
the law that says that these types of crimes
would be subject to capital punishment.
Guess what?
The states have state's rights.
And so Idaho says, okay, we find this crime to be so horrible
that we're going to put it in this category
and it's going to be public execution.
You know what?
I'm in favor of it because I believe they're need.
needs to be for certain things, there needs to be a deterrent above deterrence.
There has to be something that is so deterrent that it is so above that causes people to think twice.
We've talked about what happens in the Middle East with when you commit a crime that cut off a finger or even a hand.
If the theft is heavy enough, you take out of a hand.
So now your brother walks around town with one hand.
He says, yeah, was that pre-snickers, worth it?
No, no, right?
We're not joking here.
That's the way they do it.
But guess what happened to petty theft and things?
The Middle East, it goes down.
Yeah.
Because the deterrence is there.
I'm fine with going through the process, let the voters put it on there,
test it and put it on his law, and I'm fine about it.
Now, public execution, I think that's a little morbid.
But because normally the executions have been, you know, careful.
very carefully managed things.
Prisoner comes in, he's put on the bed, the doctors come there, they inspect.
There's a lot of things we do to do things quickly and humanely.
I don't know how a grandstand, you know, for public inspection, I think there's a little morbidity to that,
and I think kind of sometimes the wrong people would be there.
But what I want the execution to be available for public review,
in a certain way? Yes, I would. I have no issue with it. Now, this woman, she's doing all this for money.
Is she destitute? Is she an addict? What is going on here? Because we have to save the kids from her.
And now we have to find a way to get this child, get the child either put up for adoption, put in foster care in a safe, loving, you know, encouraging and learning environment.
because this woman is defective.
And by the way, what's lost in here he didn't talk about,
thank you to whatever was going on Snapchat,
that they actually had a filter in place
because a lot of criticisms on social media is like,
oh, it's not our responsibility, not our thing.
Something happened there at Snapchat, so that's a footnote.
That's just a footnote.
By the way, the last time we had a public execution in U.S.
was August 14th, 1936.
in Owensboro, Kentucky was a public hanging.
Yeah.
Attended by thousands of spectators.
Attended by thousands of spectators.
After that event, states rapidly moved executions behind prison walls due to backlash
and concerns about spectacle and disorder.
Yeah.
So I'm on that page.
You know what I will say about what you were talking about at different?
I think you do.
I mean, this is a difficult one because I'm one of those people when it comes to things like
this.
I'm like anything.
I'm okay if the family gets to do whatever they want to the person and, like, keep them.
Like, I have really, you talk about morbid.
I'm not, like, I'm okay with virtually anything.
Like, my brain just says, listen, if that was my kid and someone did something to my kid or that was someone I love deeply and there's no limit.
I'm in favor of victim witnesses.
Yes.
Yes, but 10,000 people in a spectacle, no.
I'll tell you why.
Because shame and the deterrent you're talking about, it needs to almost be seen by everyone.
It needs to be, like, this could be you if you're one of these people's thinking about doing this.
And if they see it, it's a lot different than being told, we'll do this to you.
You know, there's the visual imagery of it happening in the, because there is, like, there's a certain degree of, like, I would imagine shame from just being publicly there and being executed.
Someone watching this would be like, I don't want to have that happen to me.
I don't know.
I can't say I'm against it.
Adam.
This is a tough one, because emotionally, if something happened to you or anyone,
you know, I'm right there with you, bro.
But I think what Tom's talking about the eye for eye was called Homorabi's Code.
I think that actually took place in your neck of the woods in Babylon or Babylonia or Syria.
But there's a reason that we have the U.S. justice system, the legal system and law and order.
And there must be a reason that we haven't had public executions since what year?
1930 something?
1936.
Okay.
So it's almost 100 years since we do that.
So the emotional side of me is like, strutely.
Bring them up.
Yeah.
Like in the old West.
But the legal framework America, you know, the foundation, it's probably like,
maybe we pump the brakes on this a little bit.
Now, in America, I want to say you can fact check this.
There's no death penalty.
You're talking about public execution.
No death penalty for non-death crimes, for non-homicide crimes.
So you do these sexual things, horrible, disgusting.
There's no death penalty for that, according to the,
U.S. law, you can fact-check that. However, if you're not going to do that publicly,
let's cut something off publicly. We don't, I'm not going to kill them publicly.
But okay. That's a good alternative. Let's sit them out there in public. Oh, you want to rape little
kids. Okay. We can't kill you. But we're going to bring you out in public.
Cut his anger. And we're going to chop it off. We're going to guillotine that thing.
Well, let me let's find the middle ground here. So let me show you this one here. David P. Phillips
examined 22 highly publicized executions on London 1858 to 1921 and reported that homicides dropped roughly 35% in the two weeks after each execution.
There you go.
And another study titled Execution Publicity and Homicide in South Carolina similarly reported that months with publicized executions had a 17 and a half percent fewer homicides than months without publicized executions.
So it is a huge deterrent.
And there was a book written by someone that explained one.
city went extreme. The other city didn't. And the other city that there's a very, this is a very,
very heavy debated topic that goes back and forth, that some people think grace is necessary,
that's second chances, third chances. But to me, when you get to this point, something like this,
what did they do in Idaho? They said, was it a three strike rule? No, it had to be three out of the
17. It had to be three out of the 17. If it's like you transferred sexually transmitted disease,
I think the other one was multiple incidents, use of force, causing injury.
There's multiple factors.
If you have at least three of the 17, then they're saying that could lead to a public execution if the child is 12 years or younger.
I like that.
But by the way, is this three strikes you're out or three of 17 the first time?
No, it could be three of 17.
Again, multiple incidents to them considers as one of the 17 factors.
It's kind of how they look at it.
It's kind of how they look at it.
Was it premeditated?
Was it a revenge?
Was it lay in weight?
You know all those things that they do that says if you check the boxes, then it becomes a capital punishment case.
That's what they're doing.
It's so rare for these offenses to be a one-time thing anyway.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And by the way, let me get to this one.
By the way, you know, I feel like we're on a bunch of stories like that I'm going to get off this.
Let me just do this last one here and then we'll move on.
Louisiana gunman killed eight children, including seven of his own.
Police say in deadliest mass shooting since 2024.
Rob, I think you got a clip on this one here.
Go for it.
Go ahead.
The suspect in these eight homicides is Shamar Elkins.
He is believed to be the man responsible for this heinous act.
I can tell you that seven of the eight children that were killed are believed to be his children.
We are still working to determine a complete motive and understanding as to why this happened,
but it is domestic in nature.
The mother of the children was also shot and had very serious injuries, although we are hopeful she will recover.
there's another female that was in this resident residence that has life-threatening injuries.
We are hopeful that she will pull through.
Yeah, so ages 3 to 11, ages 3 to 11, and a 13-year-boy was injured after fleeing from a home and jumping from the roof,
Bordland told KSLA he sustained a few broken bones but is expected to recover.
So, Vinny, your thoughts on this story.
I mean, when I saw it yesterday, I literally was in disbelief because I'm like, there's no way that this.
Is that the picture?
Is that the picture of the kid?
That's him with his family.
And it's like, listen, you have a problem with her.
Okay, I understand it.
But deal with her.
If that's the problem, deal with her.
I'm not saying kill her.
Don't, you know, I don't want people to take that out of context.
But you shoot and kill seven of your own kids and they're your blood.
But hey, that's not anger.
That is complete evil.
Those kids didn't do anything.
And yeah, the one kid is trying to go on the roof,
and apparently he was like a cousin or a nephew or something,
and he shot him.
Like, they didn't cause your relationship problems, okay?
They didn't ask you to do this entire mess and argue.
Instead of protecting them, you wipe them out.
And that's what happens when you have zero control, zero discipline,
and zero fear of God.
In regard to the execution and stuff like that,
but I believe, I might be wrong time.
You can fact check me.
Romans chapter 13, like one of the first,
for chapter Roman 13 chapter 4 I think it says something about you know the capital punishment
and the letting the authorities deal with stuff that's horrific crime because a lot of what is it
government rulers where they acknowledge if not serve with that purpose keeping pro does not bear
the sword in vain okay so it's basically saying government authorities are are god's servant
designed for individuals good punishing wrongdoers I know a lot of people go well you're a Christian
you guys are supposed to but you have to like there has to be punishment or else bro
people are going to keep doing it if that law and I
Idaho came out. How many of these disgusting, pedophile, perverted, murderous? I mean, this guy
obviously had an agent. Once he was done, it was going to be over. But you have to pump fear
into these people or else they're going to keep doing it. They're going to keep doing it, bro.
In this case, I mean, what happens to, like, and I tell people this all the time, you,
and they always do this, Elon, they go, he's out of his mind. No, no. That's when the, when Satan,
when the devil gets in you, bro, it happens like that. And it's over.
Let me, you know, you hear this because in the past there was a story like this that happened.
And it was a story of Ronald Gene Simmons, not the Gene Simmons from Kiss, but Ronald Gene Simmons was an American spree killer who committed the deadliest family side, is what they call it, in U.S. history.
In December of 1987, over the course of one week in rural Arkansas, he murdered 14 members of his own family, including seven of his own kids, his wife, grandchildren, and in-laws, plus two form.
were co-workers, total 16 killed, and the aftermath was he was convicted in two separate
trials, waived all appeals, and was executed by lethal injection. Three years later in 1990,
just 16 months after his second conviction, one of the quickest executions in modern
U.S. history, and we haven't had one since 1987. Okay, so think about when you get stories like this,
you know, when this takes place. Now, let me give the other side of the story. Yeah, that's Ronald
Gene Simmons, he looks like somebody that would kill his own family, if you look at that, right?
But on the flip side of it, let me tell you how many heroes are out there as well that we don't
recognize enough. And Vinny, I'm going to come to you with this one.
So last week, it could have been last week or a week ago.
It was last week.
It was last week.
So, Vin, matter of fact, I'll just let you tell the story of this, of a great story of Kirkmore
and what happened to him when he showed up to, what did he call it?
What did he show up to?
He was in school.
He showed up to prom.
He showed up to prom.
But show the first clip first route.
Go to the first one first.
So can I set it up?
Really fast fast.
And I love that you said that with all the, we always hear bad news, bad news, bad news,
fighting, killing, you know, the mother that's doing what she's doing.
This is a principal, Kirk Moore, from Paul's Valley High School.
He stopped a mass shooting.
So a 20-year-old former student named Victor Hawkins, he walks in and he's saying he wanted
to shoot up the school like Columbine shooters did.
This guy, Kirk Moore, ran straight out.
He comes out of nowhere.
If you guys look towards the back, he comes out of nowhere,
tackles the guy, get shot in the leg,
and saves this guy from,
he had two clips to go and shooting everybody.
He didn't do what we saw in Yuvaldi where those security or cops.
They all ran, they all hit.
They didn't strong the, it's in the ground.
This guy acted, okay?
And I don't know how this was in the top story.
But Rob, go ahead and play the clip.
So this is the shooter coming in.
Brother, there's a kid right there on the right, our left.
The gun jams.
And then look, principal, boom.
Bam.
And then right now he gets shot, he gets shot in the leg.
How, how crazy is that, bro?
The other kids out, stop some.
This other guy comes out.
That guy takes the gun.
Yep.
Takes the magazine out.
How crazy is that?
Look at that.
Dude, the guns out.
The other teacher grabs the gun.
Call the cops.
Yep, and that's it.
How, how, how crap?
It's insane.
And by the way, show what happened when he showed up to prom.
This is what happened when he showed up to prom.
He showed up to prom and guess what?
They crown him the prom king at the freaking high.
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It's a bull-
Look at this guy
It's amazing
Good for him, but a bunch more
He deserves everything
Yeah, look at this freaking stud, bro
Dude, look how happy they are
Saved a bunch of them they don't even, like they know it
This guy's a gangster, bro
Isn't that great?
I love that.
Isn't that great? You get emotional just watching it like that. This is in you. Go ahead, Elon.
No, it's just such a polar opposite of this is what masculinity should be.
Yes. Yep.
This is a protector. This is, and by the way, you watch that video as someone who has worked with people in like stress responses, training people, all this stuff.
You never know how you will react in a high stress situation. To see someone take action, it's easy to watch it and say, I would do the same thing.
Nine out of ten people don't. Yep. They freeze. They run. Those are the two most common.
So for him to go do that, put his life on the line.
The guys that are here, I think people like this should be nationally celebrated.
By the way, if anybody's watching this, if you're from that area, or if you know the family,
if you know anything about Kirk Moore, what he's like, what he's interested in, what his passions are,
can you manak me?
Let's find a way collectively you and I to do something special for him and his family.
Oh, that's awesome.
Can you do that?
Let's do something very, very, very special for him and tournamental hero.
Where is he based out of?
I love this.
Oklahoma?
The Cardboard High School Valley.
Oklahoma City?
Oklahoma.
Beautiful.
If you know anything, Maneck me, I want to do something special for this man.
We need to recognize heroes like this.
Tom.
This is exactly, you know, we're celebrating this.
We're celebrating him and we should, but it's just sad and it worries me.
I mean, Kim is a teacher at a really good school, but I worry about stuff like this.
It only takes one person to kind of flip the bit.
But I celebrate this guy.
I thank you for all the training and everything that law enforcement does
are schools now.
We have so many ways to protect our schools and more techniques
and more devices that are on doors and procedures.
But really, what it gets back to, man, we need big brothers and big sisters,
and we need Sunday school that brings faith to these people
so that we can catch it early
so that they can be valuable members of society.
All the protections and everything that I'm praising protects.
But go upstream.
We've got to go all the way upstream,
as I'm very fond of saying when I talk about,
don't build a $1 trillion filter in the pond.
Go upstream and find out what's getting into the pond.
And stop that.
And let me tell you, folks, it's faith.
And it's being willing to read it.
reach out your community and to be a big, a big brother or a big sister or to help a single mom.
And we need that spirit of community back in the U.S. to reach out and help.
Because you're going to prevent this and not even know it.
Yeah, you'll never know the person you stopped from doing the terrible.
And you make a, I love that you took it there.
We spend billions, besides all the fraud, we spend billions of dollars protecting other countries.
yet our schools and our children aren't safe.
It seems like every month there's a mass shooting.
And the fact that heroism is the last line of defense
tells you that there's something wrong with the people in charge
and their priorities are not straight, bro.
These are the most vulnerable.
We just heard how many stories about these children
and they're the most not looked after, like neglected.
It's like, bro, if we could spend billions everywhere,
put a freaking cop, put a metal detector in the front.
That kid just strolled in, Pat.
if that gun was active, okay, and he walked into a classroom,
it's a whole different story that we're hearing.
Kirk Moore, God bless his soul, it's a whole different situation
because he's shooting, shooting, shooting, clip, and then it's you.
There's something weird going on in society.
I saw video, I opened Instagram, and this is what I'm exposed to.
I see a kid playing in a school yard.
He gets in a fight with some other kids.
It's like a basketball court.
And the kids start punching him in the face.
He's 15 years old.
And then one hits him in the face as he's trying to go away.
The other one pulls out a firearm, shoots him in the chest, kills him.
and this is on Instagram
and I'm exposed to something
I'm a 44 year old man exposed to
there's young kids seeing this
the amount of nihilism and dehumanization
that's taking place online
is very scary
and you talk about going upstream
I think it all leads to nihilism
it leads to it. Sorry, go ahead.
Great point and you remember the whole
conversation that we had if it bleeds it leads
that was on the general news
but there was a
corridor where the producer
said listen we can't go that far
now with the dissemination of
social media, anything can be put out there.
And there's no selectivity to what you see out there.
Look, and I'll continue to harp on this.
The only way America could lose in the global stage is if we're divisive.
And if we're dividing each other, we have internal decay.
So the whole, if it bleeds, it leads.
There's two stories that we just covered.
One, this heroic teacher that's saving lives.
The other one, I learned a new word, family side.
Yeah.
Not a homicide.
Not a suicide.
you're taking out your own family, bro?
So I know we're talking about...
We shouldn't know that word exists.
That word should not exist.
That should not exist.
We talk about have more kids,
have more kids, have more kids.
This guy had a lot of kids.
So what happens when you're bringing all these kids in this world?
And then you can take them out like my mom used to say,
you know, I brought you in this world.
I'll take you out of it.
I never took that literally.
Yeah.
But it's so sad.
She was pretty serious.
I know.
I know.
I know, I love you, Mom.
I know.
I know.
But it just,
shows there's so many good stories we can focus on. Let's stop focusing on the bad and what
bleak. That's the thing about this world, though. You know, you got to talk about the good, the bad,
and the ugly, but we want to make sure, again, if you know Kirk Moore and stuff about him,
reach out to me. I want to do something very, very, very special for this man. I want to do
something very special for this man and recognize him. That involves the students, that involves
a school, that involves the kids there. I want to do something really special for him.
All right. Let's go to the next story here. This story, when Vibeye,
viral all over X. Here's a story from Al Jazeer. Outrage after photo shows Israeli soldiers
smashing Jesus statue in Lebanon. If you pull this up, a viral photo, it was like,
has sparked outrage. And a statement on Monday, the IDF confirmed the authenticity of the image.
So it's not like they're like, no, this is not real. They came out. Their Twitter account came
out and said this was real. And an image that was widely shared online. Five.
million views on one of the accounts. It said that the following, an initial review was determined
that the photograph showed an Israeli soldier operating in southern Lebanon where Israeli last month
launched a ground invasion in conjunction with aerial bombardment amid its joint war with the U.S.
The military added an investigation had been opened that appropriate measures will be taken
against those involved in accordance with the findings commenting on social media.
Iman Odeh, a Palestinian member, the Israeli parliament wrote pointedly, will wait to hear
the police spokesman claimed that the soldier felt threatened by Jesus.
Ahmed Taibi, another Palestinian member, Knesset, commented as well.
Perhaps these races have also learned that Donald Trump,
so just both I refer to U.S. President's controversy, including the –
So this is the clip that we're talking about, right here.
That's the soldier to the right.
And IDF – can you go to the IDF tweet?
Rob, I think you just had it a minute ago if you don't.
That's not it, Rob.
Yeah, there was one out there that's confirming that this.
And Benjamin Nanyahu said something today, too.
Yeah, he said it's tragic.
Yeah.
Go a little bit lower four hours.
You're going to have to go a lot more because they're tweeting a lot.
Go a little bit lower, faster.
Okay, they're right there.
Right there, right there, right there.
Okay.
So IDF following the completion of an initial examination,
the referendum of the IDF soldier,
Christian symbol, it was determined that the photograph depicts an IDF soldier
operating in southern Lebanon.
The idea for use the incident in the great severity and emphasized that the soldiers' conduct
is a wholly inconsistent with the values expected of its troop.
incident is being investigated by Northern Command and is currently being addressed through
the chain of command. Appropriate measures will be taken against those involved in accordance
with the findings. Furthermore, the idea if it's working and assisting community and restoring
the statue in its place, the idea if it's operating to dismantle terrorist infrastructure established
by Hezbole on southern Lebanon has no intention of harming civil civilian infrastructure,
including religious buildings or religious symbols. Vinnie.
I mean, horrible, horrible look. And by that, this happened in the village called Debel
near the Israeli border
in the bin Jabil district,
which is one of the oldest, just FYI,
I know where it's located in Lebanon,
but the oldest Christian populations on earth,
it belonged to a Catholic church,
and the actual people of that neighborhood
posted the photo of the statue
when it was standing still,
and they quoted scripture from Gospel of Luke 2334,
and they said in that, in Arabic,
it says, Father, forgive them,
for they know not what they do.
Now I want to say this.
Obviously, this doesn't reflect,
because I know what people are going to do.
Oh, all the soldiers, this doesn't reflect all the soldiers.
It doesn't respect all of Israel and how they feel.
But this isn't an isolated incident.
In 2024, the IDF destroyed the church of Durgaia that killed eight people.
There was another incident in 2024.
Yeah, that's the church.
And then, Rob, can you show me the bulldoze one?
I think that's the church.
Killed eight people.
okay in 2024 the IDF in a town near yaroon where a St. George statue was reportedly bulldozed
during operations in that same region.
I think I sent it to you Rob.
Oh, but by the way, and just FYI, Pat, just for people to know, this is, can you show that
video on the top?
Yeah, that's the bulldoze.
That's them bulldozing St. George, which, by the way, if you guys know St. George,
he stands for faith and love and all that stuff.
And then just go back, Rob, just really, really quick show that.
Guys, this is, this isn't Gaza.
This is southern Lebanon.
And I understand the argument.
There's Hezbollah there.
But this is complete annihilation.
And let's just get to the point, okay?
Israel is in Lebanon for what?
For what?
Destroying who?
Hezbollah.
Okay?
That's the mission.
That's the threat.
You've already seized almost 20% in the land for the buffer zone.
What are you smashing a statue of Jesus?
Okay.
Has nothing to do with the mission.
I know the soldier, again, does not represent all of Israel,
but that's discussing, I'm curious
why they hate shit towards Christians,
okay? I'm just curious.
With Islam, with Islam, I can see
that there's a clear reason.
It's Islam, okay? I get it, they hate them.
But with Christians, where's the justification?
What were you going to say?
I just think that the history of Lebanon
is very important to discuss it.
What used to be a majority Christian nation?
A lot of them were.
Yeah, well, Lebanon used to be the Paris of the Middle East.
It was a beautiful place.
And when the PLO came in
after Black September,
stabilized it, caused a civil war, many of the Christians left. And then you have the rise of
Hezbollah, which is essentially an Iranian proxy. And there's just, this is the sad reality of,
you're taking 18 to 21 year old guys, you're putting them in a war zone, and you see
stupid behavior like this, and worse, you know, sadly in any army, any war zone, what I care
about is accountability. Israel has to take swift, strict action against this. They already have a bad
image problem. And there's already a lot of people trying to push division between Christians and Jews.
And I think it's just, it's an unnecessary division.
When I look at southern Lebanon, you're talking about Hezbollah, why are they doing this?
There's been Christian leaders in southern Lebanon who've come out and said Hezbollah is embedding itself in our villages, in our homes.
And that's more true.
I mean, this is a terrible, terrible look and disgusting and bothers me.
And like I said, one thing I will say is everywhere online that I saw Israelis and Jews, they were speaking out against it and saying, I condemn this act, I condemn this act.
That's what I care about the accountability.
But again, I would also like to see accountability
for the suffering of the Christians in southern Lebanon
because of Hezbollah, because of the actions that have taken over the years.
I want to see a resolution to this.
The longer wars go on, the longer the civilians will suffer,
the longer we'll see people do stupid things like this
that are just absolutely disgusting and indefensible.
And so I don't think there's an intentional targeting of Christians.
I think that there's an idiotic group of young 18 to 21-year-old guys
who are in the IDF.
you have a population there that's under extreme stress
and some of them do hate Christians, obviously,
if you do something like this, you're just an idiot.
But I don't think it's reflected by the majority.
Adam.
I don't think many Jews would agree with anything this guy just did.
I don't think any normal person would agree with this guy just did.
I think you should condemn this.
And I think taking down any religious symbol
and making a mockery of it, I'm not a fan of.
So with that being said, you know,
we just talked about good news and bad news.
I can give you countless stories.
of Christians who are saved
Druze, who are saved
by the IDF.
I'll give you one story.
I'll give a shout out to my friend
Rudy Rockman who served in the IDF.
He would be in Gaza.
He would find Qurans
that were victims of what's going on there.
He would take the Quran
and bring it and bring a pile
and save them because he respected
religious artifacts.
That's the same person
in the same conflict
doing different things.
So if we're going to label
anybody anything let's label this one person an idiot but while we're processing labeling the selective
outrage and the selective hypocrisy i mean stop it okay so you've seen a video of like a religious orthodox
guy spitting on someone or someone uh what what this guy did smashing a symbol of jesus okay
the christian people are the most persecuted people on earth they're killed they're kidnapped their
churches are bombed by who? Say the name. Islamic terrorists. Let's focus on that. What happens
when you convert from Islam to Christianity in any Islamic country? A death sentence. I've been to
Israel. I've seen Christians in Israel, in Jerusalem, preaching about Jesus. I said, hey, nice to meet you.
Protected. Protected. You can go through countries in the Middle East, Yemen, Iran, Sudan, Pakistan,
Nigeria, Nigerian Christians.
So let's chill with the selective outrage.
How dare you smash a photo?
Horrible.
But you have to realize.
No, but there is a double standard.
Look, there is an openly double standard.
But you have to accept that there's a double standard.
But what's a double standard?
Well, that obviously when an IDF soldier or Jew does something,
like I've seen a million people online look at Epstein and say all Jews are like this.
You see that with any time a Jew does something,
it's held to the standard of all Jews,
even though there's 15 million in the world.
the Orthodox Jews spinning on the Christians.
I cannot tell you how many times I explained to people,
those were a sect of 200 religious Jews in Israel.
They were arrested by the Israeli authorities,
and this is an isolated incident.
But it doesn't matter.
You have to accept that you are held to a higher standard
and do something about it.
Live to the higher standard.
Don't use that as an excuse to say, well, this happened.
So I'm in agreement with you.
There is a double standard, but it's such a bad look,
and the world will take advantage the worst players of this type of...
Can I say one thing, I completely disagree with something?
collective outrage. It's something that we were seeing. People were denying it. We're seeing it.
It's not an isolated incident because I can go back and show you. And those same people in Lebanon
I saw that's a lot of them were saying, no, no, this place and these are medical people trying
to help that aren't. Hesbola, they're saying, no, Hesbola is not here. We're telling you we're not here.
And that statue, if Hesbola's everywhere, why was it still standing while Hesbola was there?
And apparently all overrun by terrorists. But then the IDF comes in and they have.
a problem with the statue of Jesus Christ. I'm not selective. This is a story. It's bothering me.
You're bulldozing statues of St. George. You're blowing up churches. And I'm not saying it's an
excuse. But what's to stop an army from saying, hey, we're going to bomb there and bomb there
and bob churches because we say, and you have to believe our intelligence, that there's
terrorists there. Again. If you think about it, Elon, and that, hold on, that mindset,
that attitude, tell me how you can tell that person to stop.
And that's, I actually want to hear what bothers you more?
No, no, nothing about this or are thousands of Christians being killed in night?
No, but Vinny, can I, can I say, Adam, each has its own thing.
That bothers me.
I agree with you.
No, no, let me.
Obviously, Adam, you're not going to get me to got you moment.
Of course it's thousands of people getting killed.
So this isn't it got you.
You can't address this story.
This is a messed up story.
So what I'm not.
You're treating it's the same.
You're treating thousands of people being murdered.
Adam, you're putting, you're telling me how I'm a idiot.
Are you telling me how I feel?
Statute.
Are you telling me how I feel?
Jesus Christ.
Statue of Jesus Christ.
Here's what I want to say.
I want to say you have to look at the larger picture
of what the intention of the nation is.
So in Israel, 20% of the country is not Jewish.
They have the only growing Christian population
in the entire Middle East.
It's a small population,
but it's the only growing Christian population
in the entire Middle East.
Anyone can go researches.
It's the only country in the Middle East
that has equal rights for Christians
and protections for Christians across the board.
they can even proselytize as much as people say they can't.
That's a myth.
You can't go undercover into schools, pretend to be a Jew, and proselytize to children secretly.
But that was protected for any religion.
There's proselytizing prohibitions for 1,000 miles around Israel, but not in Israel.
Not in Israel.
Exactly.
And so when Adam's talking about selective outrage, there's a reality that you're looking at the one country in the Middle East with a growing Christian population that has major protections within its country for Christians.
and you're saying, look at what they did here.
It's terrible, it's terrible, it's terrible.
And objectively, it gets more views, more attention, and more anything.
Then the massacre of Christians in Nigeria, then the massacre.
There's bombs in churches in Syria where people were inside praying suicide bombers went in.
Nobody talked about it.
Zero story.
There is a certain reality to the double standard we talked about.
That does not mean that you should not be pissed off about this.
Of course.
You are 100% right for being pissed off about this.
But also understand that this is something that,
the leader of the country immediately came out and condemned and said he is sad and but which is good he
has value and so fix we should fix the problems hold israel accountable i got two more stories to get
sorry okay i'll stop talking so tom were you going to say anything or no no okay did you see the
picture that it was on lebanese tv just to give a little optimism bright side have robbie you could
play this this is the first time on lebanese tv recently he died so i can't see anything well glenbeck
was talking about this where a lebanese official tv
showed the star of David, the Israeli flag, and said,
the people of Lebanon and the people of Israel, we want peace.
Okay, so let's understand Hezbollah is a terrorist organization
that has hijacked Lebanon, and the 80%, just like in Iran,
want Hezbollah out of it.
Here's a reality.
That's what's going on.
Here's the reality of it.
If in your core you have something against Israel,
your behavior on what you share will reveal who you are.
If in your core you have an issue with Catholics, it's going to reveal itself.
If in your core you have something against Christians, it's going to reveal itself.
And social media right now is going to use this to divide.
Muslims are celebrating with something like this.
Celebrating because what is it doing?
More division, more division, more division, more division.
They're salivating for stories like this and want more of it.
And if your automatic reaction is this level, then Christians getting killed
in Nigeria is this level,
then you've been manipulated.
You've been brainwashed.
You're part of the camp that's been ban on you.
If the reaction here is not this,
and oh my God, look at this, on any story,
on any story that you have,
like even today, when we're going through the stories
we're shown with Trump and Pope Paupleo.
And then Humberto, the only date of Hombardo
only sends me is always one-sided.
So I know where Humberto's stuff it will come from.
So he sends me, but look at this, but look at this.
But guess what?
One of the ones he sent was right. Let me show it to you.
Yeah.
This is where America's against it, right?
The problem is when people are not able to see both.
Like if you're selective searching and selective looking for everything,
you're going to find plenty of stats to use to validate your, you know, animosity towards the community.
I'm moving on.
Two other stories I want to do before we wrap up.
Let me see what time I got.
1124.
This one has to be very short, and I'm only going to one of you guys.
Maybe two of you on this one here.
Vinny, maybe, you know, one the most.
important stories. You know this.
Okay. On April 8th, the New York Mets.
On April 9th, the New York Mets had the mayor of New York City,
Mamdani visit and hug the mascot.
And video went viral.
I saw the video on the bottom of it. I typed in,
Go Yankees. Okay, I wonder to make sure everybody knows this.
Do you know, from the 9th till today,
Mets had lost the game on the 8th, but from the 9th till
today, they have lost 10 consecutive games.
It's now 11 if you can count the 8th.
My only request to the mayor of the Mets is for every single week,
please pay a visit to the Mets just once.
If you can continue doing this, it'll be a beautiful thing on behalf of the Yankees fans.
We want to thank Mayor Mammani for visiting the Mets games and the mascots.
Vinnie, I think you wanted to say a couple words about this as well.
Do you guys remember, Tom, the curse of the Bambino?
In 1919 or the Boston Red Sox sold Babe Ruth to the New York Yankees.
And that move flipped everything.
The Yankees turned into, you know, what the Yankees turned into.
How many championships, Pat, do we have?
27.
27.
27.
But not one since 09.
Oh, and I don't want to even talk about that because it's been depressing.
But, and then Mom Dhani shows up and say, bro, you can't, it's almost like the, what is the,
is it the Drake, Adam?
Drake's curse.
Oh, yeah.
Or whoever Drake bets on or big names or Super Bowl.
or everything, it always goes the opposite way.
But I mean, listen, the proof is in the pudding.
He showed up.
If I have to recommend, not recommend, if I have to do a predictive thing,
I think it's going to go to 15, 15 game losing streets,
maybe even more because the guy is just literally everything he touches
is going to go to trash.
And you guys are going to say that.
Well, I think what you're saying is anything socialism touches.
Well, he turns to trash.
And he has socialism and Islamism in New York City.
But he looks like a guy that would be a Mets fan.
100%.
He looks like a Mets fan,
more than a Yankees.
He just gives me the vibe.
Yeah, he gives the vibe.
Yeah.
He looks like the guy
doesn't know the first thing about sports.
Well, he has a ring here.
I don't trust anybody,
a dude that has a ring on your index finger.
You can't trust that.
The good news is he was hanging out with Obama recently.
Yeah.
And I'm sure that's going to turn out well.
You have that picture?
Let me give a shout out to this one place this weekend that I went to,
and I'm texting, Jen.
Let me just call it real quick.
We went to this.
Have I taken it to this place with,
by the way,
the service here.
is fantastic. Are you guys noticing how amazing the service years? I love it. You're calling
General. Middle opponent? Yeah. So we went to this one deli down the street somewhere here and I want to
shout out to a deli. Shout out to Delhi with a P. It starts with a Pee. Delhi? Yeah. It's a
deli locally here. We went to I wish I did. Is it Pomperdale? That's the one. Pumperdale.
I've been there. It is good. It is good. Bob, yeah? Is the place you're named Pomperdale
babe? I'm going. New York famous deli.
with you, Vinny.
Oh, that looks good.
Yeah, so we went to Pomperdale, and let me tell you, babe,
the owner's name was Rick, right?
Am I saying it correctly?
Rick.
So, okay, thanks, babe.
All right, bye.
So we went there, and I had this one,
it's called a New Yorker, roast beef.
I'm not even a roast beef guy,
and they had this dressing,
and they had this mustard.
What I think the daughter's faces on the mustard.
I'm going.
I put this mustard on there.
By the way, they didn't sponsor this message.
This is just flat out,
I went and ate this roast beef and I took a bite out of it.
I'm not even kidding with you.
Even when my torn ACL, I ran a 430.
It was like, I became he-man.
All of a sudden, I felt like I was a whole different human being.
But guess what?
Big Yankees guy, 1967 or 1969, he went to his first Yankees game.
And guess who hit a foul ball to him?
Guess who, Tom?
Mickey Mantle.
Mickey Mantle.
Forget about it.
Forget about it.
And he's got the ball till today.
I said, who's your second favorite Yankee of all time?
He says, you know, Maddingley's got the manningley.
I came into the trade.
Donnie baseball with Merrill Monroe.
But anyways.
Keep Mom Donnie away from that deli.
There's something about New York Yankees, man.
I don't know what to tell you.
The pinstripes.
Even though the Dodgers are looking very, very good this year.
Very, very good.
How's your boy Juan Soto doing?
Yeah.
Well, he's at the Mets.
What's saying?
How's he doing?
Obviously not good.
game win streak. But let me tell you, he was pretty fun to watch in the World Series.
What do you call it?
In Venezuela.
The national game.
Dominican Republic.
Dominican Republic.
Anyways.
Go Yankees.
To all the Yankees out there doing your thing, man, we got a couple wins here that we got
like three or four win streak, which is exciting.
And Mamdani, keep showing up to the Mets.
You're amazing.
And on top of that, for hot cakes and hot takes, we have a special episode that's about to go out
right now.
Vinny, who is this?
Tristan Tate is going live right now, 1130.
Go yeah, please support.
I think the lower third is on there.
Just go to QR code and support it.
Can I give a really fast, quick shout out to everybody that bought the Faith Over Fear White Hat?
That thing went that day and we're going to try to replenish.
We're going to try to get more white.
Thank you.
And I love you guys for wearing it.
It was unbelievable how quickly it went.
Take care, everybody.
We got a special podcast we'll do today.
Maybe it'll go out tomorrow.
It's probably one of the most exciting guys on social media today that likes to fight.
But anyways, I'll tell you about it afterwards.
God bless everybody.
Take care.
Bye bye, bye, bye, bye.
