PBD Podcast - Trump & Xi Meeting + Fauci’s COVID Coverup | PBD #799

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana react to Trump’s meeting with Xi Jinping, explosive allegations surrounding Fauci and the CIA’s role in the COVID coverup narrati...ve, and the arrests tied to alleged CCP espionage operations in the U.S.------🧢 LIMITED EDITION FLB USA 250 HERITAGE WHITE SNAPBACK: https://bit.ly/4dPjWAP

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you ever think you would make it? I said I'm something like it takes sweet with the story. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right? You are one of one? My son's right, there.
Starting point is 00:00:20 I think I've ever said this before. Rob, I gotta tell you, if this continues to happen with Jake defending Vinny every single freaking time he falls off the wagon, I'm gonna have a problem here. Every single time, I come in. It's like, it's okay. Vinny's having a bad. they just give him a break. Every time I have to deal with this, Vinnie, wake your ass up, Vinny. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:00:40 My goodness, every time, Vinny. I'm so sorry, we're late guys. It's getting, it's getting old. Jake, Jake's like your agent defending you every single time, Jake. This is it. I'm sick of it. You know, one I have to deal with him. Then I have to deal with having to repeat myself three times to Tom.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Sorry. And then Adam can't stop doing podcast with Dave Smith. It's like every single time I'm getting out there with these guys are becoming buddies doing stuff and talking about expertise in the comedy industry. But we're figuring this thing out, folks. As a bunch of amateurs, we're trying to see on what's going on here with stories. I'm sorry, Pat. Did you say something?
Starting point is 00:01:16 Yeah, that's right. I have to say three times. But we will figure this thing out, okay, collectively. We're getting better. The surveys making everybody, God willing, get better. And if it doesn't, we'll go back to selling gym memberships at Ballytodafin. Some local gym membership here. But anyways, let's go into some stories, some crazy things happened.
Starting point is 00:01:34 A bunch of important, powerful people went to China. I don't know if you heard or not. This guy who runs the leader of the free world, they call him President Donald J. Trump, took a bunch of billionaires and successful folks to China to negotiate. There was a lot of back and forth that happened. Trump said this is the first time ever
Starting point is 00:01:53 where a relationship has been this long. And then Rubio made comments about Taiwan. Taiwan was like the main topic. You know what China kept saying, Vinnie? Just to kind of give you an idea, it's like, well, you know, their time I will send you 200 Boeing for the first time in 10 years. I think they did a contract to sell potentially China purchase. Did you just have a hiccup?
Starting point is 00:02:12 I have a hit up. Yeah. China's purchasing. China had a lot of root beer last night. China purchased potentially purchasing 200 Boeing aircrafts. But then at the same time, they're thinking about selling 75,000 chips to Alibaba, 10th, buy dance, JD.com, Foxcon, Lenovo to China through Nvidia. And a lot of people like, wait a minute, what are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:02:35 Even though there was a little bit of a bump on the stock market, I know you were watching it closely. Then on top of that, with Xi's warning, multiple times about Taiwan topics, the Taiwan issues the most significant concern in the China-U.S. relations, if addressed properly, stability, inversely and mishandling, it could lead to clashes and conflict. By the way, again, China's red line, the Taiwan issue lies at the heart of China's fundamental interest. And then Rubio turns around and says, well, too bad because the U.S. policy towards Taiwan, unchanged. Do you imagine this guy? It would be a terrible mistake for China to try to take Taiwan by force. And then Taiwan comes on and says, hey, with gratitude, we just want to say, we're expressing gratitude for Washington's long-term support and views, actions,
Starting point is 00:03:18 attributing to regional stability positively. So Taiwan's like, yeah, you guys back this up. So anyways, there's a lot of stuff going there. Then out of all the stories, listen, all these things that's going out, you know what was Tom's top story? Tom's top story that we lost time for about 17 minutes this morning is the playlist. And one of the songs on the playlist when the president arrived, they have this one song. Don't show it yet, Rob,
Starting point is 00:03:39 because I know this is a big hit for Tom. You guys got to see what the song was. And maybe Tom will have to perform it because of how a celebrity, what is celebratory? For him, it was impressive. So we'll let you know what that song is. A couple other stories.
Starting point is 00:03:55 If Drake is making this song that's coming out, taking shots at LeBron, If you haven't read the lyrics, it's crazy. He calls out a bunch of different people. He gives compliments to KD and even a couple other shots. He takes that folks. But one of them was specifically to LeBron. And it's kind of weird because many years ago when LeBron came out,
Starting point is 00:04:15 I think Drake's first song or one of his first songs was about LeBron. I think a lot of the lyrics, right? And we'll talk about that. Tom's got a, you know, he specializes in hip-hop, so we'll go to him for his analysis. Thomas Massey, some interesting things going on with Thomas Massey, Humberto Seles, please talk about it. We will.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Cuban Raul Castro indicted. And, you know, can you imagine Castro's brother, who for what he did in 96, Rob, is being claimed of the plane that was attacked. I think it was bringing humanitarian aid. And now we're going back. So it's very interesting what's going on with the way they're sequencing on how to take over Cuba. And we'll watch that. Karen Bass, you know, if some of you guys know people who lose, you know, who have used. meth and use meth regularly. You know, once you get there, it's very tough to get off.
Starting point is 00:05:03 She comes out and says, these people who use meth don't have teeth, they can't eat. We have to get them teeth to be able to eat. That was one of her campaign. And you know Spencer Pratt's going to jump on top of that one when you say something dumb like that. So we'll address that. And then aside from that, there's a kidnapping story, devastating, four-year-old. Vinny's got thoughts on that story. And then I got a couple other things here. British, this is a very weird story. what's going on in UK. It's 18-year-old kid. I think he's a finance major's going to college.
Starting point is 00:05:35 A 23-year-old guy who apparently is a Sikh comes in with a knife and a ceremonial knife and stabs the kid. Then he says that guy disrespected me and he offended me. Cops come. They put the 18-year-old kid in handcuffs. White guy. Sitting on the side, he bleeds to death. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Yep. In UK. Yep. And you're telling me that's normal. Like you defended it. Oh, that guy offended me by saying some words. We'll address that. I mean, by the way, no one's talking about that.
Starting point is 00:06:05 The mainstream is not going to talk about that because it goes against the narrative. And then this new movie coming out, Odyssey, can imagine it's about the history of, you know, what happened in Greece and Greeks and all this other stuff? Not a single person that was casted for this movie is Greek, not one. And not only that, Sonny Hosten is now trying to tell us
Starting point is 00:06:22 that Helen of Troy was somehow... The African of... You have to see it. I can't even say the words. Tom's got a good point. Tom says maybe she's talking about a Helen from Troy Michigan who is African-American. That's what we need to time around here. Helen Williams is part of the League of Women's voter from Troy Michigan.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And Musk loses it saying what a dumb thing for these guys to do. Eight grades are suddenly not a big deal. Everyone apparently in school is getting ace. I was counting how many aes I got in school. But apparently everyone's getting ace today in school because of Chad GBT. and Tom's wife, who's been a teacher for quite some time, she has a way of tracking who is using Chad, GBT, and who's not. And on top of that, even though A's are climbing,
Starting point is 00:07:07 there is one test score that isn't. Matter of fact, it's declining. And it's important for parents to know this. Tom will give us an insight on this. And then Kamala Harris came out and revealed their hand of what they want to do. And by the way, for some of you guys, that think Kamala will never run again after a devastating 107 days that we all had to listen to that voice. It was very difficult.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I can listen to Obama. for hours, his voice. Bill Clinton, soothing voice when he speaks. Joe Biden's voice. You can listen to the guy's voice. By the way, I can listen to Hillary Clinton's voice. I know. Ten times more than you can hear Kamala Harris. Whenever we play a clip
Starting point is 00:07:41 by Kamala Harris, 60% of viewers quit. And studies have shown about 1% of them have anxiety attacks and panic attacks. 0.1% accidents happen when they watch when Kamala Harris speak. But we're going to play this clip because it's going to reveal what her agenda
Starting point is 00:07:57 is, and I'll last but not least, maybe one of the best clips will play today. Vinny just showed it to me. It could be the best clip. Honestly, is a clip of James Comey. Ladies asking James Comey. So, hey, if the president offered you a pardon, would you have taken it? He says, no. He says, why would you have not taken it? Because the act of taking a pardon or receiving a pardon is saying you're guilty. Then she says, so are you saying the same thing as Fauci and all these other guys that took the pardon? They're guilty? I let him answer for you on what he said because it's an indirect shot at Fauci. And it's important for us to address that.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Now, having said that, you know, for us that are going into the weekend and we're having conversations about the 250 year anniversary that's coming around the corner, we can't wait for that as well as the World Cup. And everyone's saying, Pat, what happened to the next hat? I thought we're doing more limited edition hats, you know. By the way, Rob, can you do me a favor? Go on eBay, if you could, and type in Future Looks Bright. Everything for some of you guys that missed the last hats and you're like, Pat, I can't get it. Just go on eBay. The previous ones, the number, you're going to pay premium because people buy it and put it on here.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So if you go a little bit lower, a lot of these hats are here. They can go order from previous limited editions one. But today, Rob, if you can play the clip, we have a limited edition, one out of 250, USA 250 year anniversary edition, and it's sick. Go ahead, Rob. It started with a belief that bold decisions shape the future. For 250 years, that mindset has defined a nation. Not someday, but now.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Relentless, unapologetic, always moving forward. And the ones who carry on, they don't wait for permission. They build, they risk, they lead. This is for them. Precision in every detail. Purpose in every stitch. A symbol of where you stand. That's sure to sit.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Oh, is that the sweater? Oh, is that the sweater? Oh my god, that white on white? By the way, does a bike come with it? At valutainment, we don't wait for what's next. We define it. The future looks bright. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:36 All right, here's all I'll tell you, folks. I'm telling you, in 30 minutes, this hat's going to be gone. For those of you guys, I want to gift it to somebody, go to vtepmerch.com, place your order, get the shirt, get the sweater. If not for you, get it for somebody else. And for some of the youngans that they buy, they get upset when it goes through, they buy it and they put it on eBay, you know, you can do your thing as well. but go to vteamurch.com, place your order.
Starting point is 00:10:56 This will not last long and sport it. Go to work, go to the gym, put it on, go to church. Others will recognize the brand future looks bright as it's getting bigger. Would that being said, let's get right into the first story? The president and his team visits China, and now the clips are out. The conversations, what was discussed? What was the main issue? China's number one issue, they made it very clear and kept repeating it over and over and over and over again,
Starting point is 00:11:21 and that was Taiwan. So as the conversations are happening with the visit, first things first, if you can go to what the president said, the meaning, the significance of this, the fact that this is the longest standing relationship a president has had with the leader of China. Go ahead, Rob. You and I have known each other now for a long time. In fact, the longest relationship of our two countries that any president and president has had. and that's to me an honor. We've had a fantastic relationship. We've gotten along when there were difficulties.
Starting point is 00:11:58 We worked it out. I would call you and you would call me. And whenever we had a problem, people don't know. Whenever we had a problem, we worked out very quickly. You and I have known each. You can pause right there. So, you know, and then he says, people give me a hard time that I'm being complimentary,
Starting point is 00:12:13 all this other stuff. And then she gets up and he says, look, the president is actually making America great again. Can you imagine? The leader of China officially joined MAGA. Okay, 1.3 billion people that can no longer vote, cannot vote, but officially the leader of that 1.3 billion people is MAGA. Go ahead, Rob. Also, the 250th anniversary of American independence.
Starting point is 00:12:38 The over 300 million American people are reinvigorating the spirit of patriotism, innovation, and enterprise, and ushering in a new journey for the development. of the United States. The people of China and the United States are both great peoples. Achieving the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation and making America great again can go hand in hand.
Starting point is 00:13:04 We can help each other succeed and advance the well-being of the whole world. I got this. I have to stop this. No, we got to be serious. No, I got it. I got it. General Sal. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Extra. No. No, we're not doing this. No, no. We're not going to do this. We're not going to do this. Okay, so anyways, a lot of things was discussed. Tom, I mean, I know you're following this closely. What were the most important issues for you?
Starting point is 00:13:36 Most important issues that you saw them talk about? So, first of all, I think it was strong to walk off the plane with basically, you know, 20% of the GDP of the United States. I mean, I thought that was a boss move to walk in with that. but what came out of it so far seems to be a little thin. I was kind of waiting on Taiwan. I was waiting for Trump to be Trump. You know, he trolls. You know, Xi, Qatar gave me a 747, beautiful, big, beautiful plane, really wonderful.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I think gifts like that should go around. So you know what I'm doing? Celebrate Taiwan, you know, the double 10 festival, October 10th. I'm giving him an aircraft carrier. I thought that would just be nice of me. I was waiting for Trump to, like, say something like that in sort of his Trumpian way. You know what I mean? Just go there.
Starting point is 00:14:24 But they really didn't. They kind of avoided it. But what came out of it on the economic side seems kind of – I was expecting a little more, but I'm glad to see what's there. But I was a little concerned about – we've been talking about not giving advanced chips to China. And now, yesterday, they said Nvidia can sell the H-200, which is a powerful chip, to China. 10 Chinese companies can buy the H-200, and yesterday, NVIDIA's... Up to 75,000 of them.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yeah, and yesterday, Invidia was up $10,000 yesterday, went up 10 immediately, like from 225 to 235. And then Citi, Jane Fraser was there, CEO of City, and she was given permission to do the, get through the regulation in China. And now they're going to operate a big securities business. Boeing got 200 planes. the rumor was they were going to buy 500. And then Besson came out along with Jameson Greer, the U.S. Trade Representative, and said, hey, you know, the Board of Trade looks like a go. I think that's a positive thing to have a discussion, ongoing discussion back and forth about trade and tariffs.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I think that's progress. Do I think China is still going to cheat? Absolutely. Do I think that's progress? Yes, I do. But overall, I give the trip from what I can see on the outside, probably. a solid B, but I want to see the rest of the stuff come out about. I want to see real announcements come out about real agriculture, about real, you know, trade deals with specifics. That's what I
Starting point is 00:15:57 want to see. And I really wanted to see a little bit more on Taiwan, where we draw the line on Taiwan and say, listen. I think we kind of did. I think we did a little bit, what Rubio said. I think the part that gets a little bit of the criticism, Tom, that people were worried. There was a clip where the president is talking to Hannity, right? And he says, we're both spying on each other. And like a jokingly matter, which I get it, but at the same token, it's like, this is something serious. Yeah, so there's a clip what they're saying,
Starting point is 00:16:24 look, they spy on us, we spy on them, which, by the way, he's not lying. He's true, he's right, that they're both spying on each other. For 50 years, he's like jokingly says it. For 50 years, there's a clip of a... I might have sent it to you, Rob, if I didn't. Yeah, so... But the point is, like, when he's saying spying on each other,
Starting point is 00:16:39 we spy on you, you, spying us. One of the talks was that on the criticism side of the president was saying, hey, allowing China to buy more agriculture in America, which, by the way, there's a lot of people like, we don't want these guys to buy in any land here with us. Of course. And we caught some of their spies trying to come over and poison our freaking fields. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Like agricultural freaking terrorism. Right, right. And that happened in different places. Some are seeing that's also what happened in Florida for the orange farms that took a big shot here. last 20 years, you know, down 85, 90%. So, and then the other part, is this at Rob on the spying? Yes, sir. Yeah, go forward. Go forward.
Starting point is 00:17:16 He goes for the Department of Justice. It's the bureaucrats inside. Here we go. What? I said, we spy on them too, I guess, you know. So some people thought that was cute. Other people said, you don't have to say that. They said, I sort of do.
Starting point is 00:17:31 No, we have, we do things and they do things, and that's the way it is. Now, with that being said, I spoke to. him very strongly about them, and I'd like to see it taken care of. But they've been doing that for 50 years. We see a change. In other words, will there be an improvement with trade? Fentanyl is way down coming into the country. For two reasons, the border is strong, but it's also down because they're sending less.
Starting point is 00:17:59 You know, we tax them. I gave them a 20% tariff because of fentanyl. It was like a penalty. Nobody ever did that. You didn't know that, probably. I gave them a 20% tariff because they're sending Fenta. It's a huge amount of money. Vin, your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Your thoughts on this. You know the saying, you know, keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. I could see with that type of tactic. Tom made a really good point at the beginning, Pat, about how much money did you say, Tom? What was the amount? It was $12 trillion worth of companies and people there.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Elon Musk of Tesla, Tim Cook of Apple, Jensen Heng from NVIDIA, Larry Fink, BlackRock, Jane Frazier City Group, Larry Colp from GE Aerospace, and then Kelly Audenberg from Boeing, and then Pat, they have executives from Meta, MasterCard, Visa, Alumina, Goldman Sachs, and Coherent. So, dude, they had serious, serious thing there. I think a huge, I think a deal time, a big deal is on the horizon. But the same time, the last time that the president visited Beijing was November 2017, 9 years ago. And right after that, what happened?
Starting point is 00:19:07 trade deal and then a couple years later, COVID. The biggest freaking pandemic we've had and God knows how long. So again, Pat, people call it an adversary. I think there's still our enemy because of what they did. But think about it. He's over there. I don't think anything with COVID came up. When we're talking about the spying, we just found out another mayor.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Another mayor has been a spy for how long. I know he's saying that we're spying there. Arcadia. Arcadia, California. Suburb of L.A. If our spies are getting caught over there, they're getting, killed, okay, because we don't hear nothing about them. But think about the history, Tom, spy balloons during Biden's administration and nobody said anything. They're buying farmland
Starting point is 00:19:45 next to our military bases by mounts from Air Force Base where I was stationed. Remember, I forgot what year was? Many of them. Many of them. And then they had a secret Chinese police department in Chinatown in Manhattan. And it's just, you know, I'm just very weary because, you know, this is, again, our adversary. They are our enemy. I understand doing business. And I I want to, you know, build a relationship, but then they're going to Trump approved what? Trump's saying that they can bring 500 foreign students here. 500,000. 500,000, I apologize.
Starting point is 00:20:17 To buy land, patent take away from America. And I understand, I get, I'm not going to try to act like I'm a geopolitical professional. I don't trust China at all, period. And the one thing I wish he could have asked Xi in front of his face is, hey, COVID, we know, we don't think. We know. We've proved it came out of a freaking lab in your country in Wuhan. where Dr. Fauci is implicated. What's up with that?
Starting point is 00:20:40 Any investigations, nothing. So I wish you would have got a little bit harder with that part. Your thoughts? Well, China was supposed to replace us as the number one country in the world in 2025, I believe. Made in China, 2025. Exactly. And they failed miserably. So let me just be super clear.
Starting point is 00:20:58 China's not in America's League. We were sold because a lot of our manufacturing went there and basically our politicians basically bowed to China. Because of Trump, America is by far the number one country in the world, and it's not even close. We were told that China was supposed to surpass us. Let me just give you some quick stats. What is our GDP versus theirs? Do you know it off the top of your head?
Starting point is 00:21:23 Do you know it? 30 trillion to 19 trillion. So China would need Germany, Japan, and Saudi Arabia's economy to somewhat equal United States. We have the number one economy in the world. GDP per capita, do you know what it is in America versus China? $90,000 in America, GDP per capita. You know what is in China? $14,000 per person.
Starting point is 00:21:48 That means you make $14,000 per person in China, $90K United States. Like Drake says, like Kendrick Lamar, they ain't like us. Okay, we have the number one world's economy, number one military, number one innovation, number one energy now. Who needs who more? I would argue China is not in our league. They need this meeting way more than us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:11 So again, they do for sure. And Trump went in in a way where just visualize if Kamala would have gone. Who would she have taken? Probably six transgender. She would have probably taken Dillem, Albany. And they would have sat there trying to negotiate and they would have sold everything we have to them instead of the ceremony that happened here.
Starting point is 00:22:29 She would have the CEO of Smyranoff get off of her. Yeah. So if you see the ceremonial events that they put together for him coming there. They know what this is. They know who's the ball. Yeah. And they know she knows that he loved.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Look how happy Trump is because there's people that are like, and they're trying to make him happy to the point where. They're all going to go to a factory after. They wanted to make a song. Like they knew what his playlist was, paying attention to details. Tom, do you want to talk about what it was on that one menu of songs that they were going to play? Yeah. They had the equivalent of a state dinner and we can see the here.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And during the state dinner. dinner, they said they're a play of place. I mean, look at this. It's very elegant brochure. They got the White House there. They've got Beijing right there, Beijing Palace right there. Very, very elegant that the official seals up in the corner. And they have the music program. And it's like China in the glow of lights, Edelweiss, the butterfly lovers. We are the world, a wish-ful owed to the pear blossom. And the last one, YMCA. It's a state dinner lineup very, very Very elegant. John Phillips Sousa. They have a Sousa March.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Very elegant. You know, a orchestral band playing there. Look at the detail and look at the silverware and the chopstick holder. I mean, this was elegant. This was very elegant and put together. And right there at the bottom of the playlist, Pat. Why? You wouldn't see it.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Hang on a second. I'm getting a text. I have a text. Hang on. Melania. Melania. Please, Sir, Dad. Melania.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Melania, please stop singing. that. You paid attention to the poll on entertainment? Melania called it the gay national anthem. No, I wasn't. Melania said what? Melania calls that song the gay national anthem. Is that what he says it? She called it the gay national anthem. She didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:24:20 He said that she calls it. She calls it the gay national anthem. And he said that she said that's a gay national anthem. Okay. So, but let me, let me continue with this on. Go ahead. It's when I dance two at the end to. She hates when I dance to what sometimes referred to as the gay national anthem.
Starting point is 00:24:42 You know that? She hates it. You know, that song was number five, 32 years ago. And it went to number one 32 years later. There's never been in the life. It never hit number one. It was number five, 32 years ago, and it went to number one for months during the last months that they came.
Starting point is 00:24:58 We love that song. We love that song. But she goes, darling, please. You know, she's a very elegant woman. She goes, darling, please don't dance. It's not presidential. I said it may not be presidential, but I'm leading by 20 points in the polls. Oh, my God, it's so fun.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah, so you have that part. Now, going back to fun, everything here, we're glad we're having a president. So, Xi did to Trump what Newsom did to Xi when she went to California. Just to put in perspective. Yes. She did to Trump above and beyond what Newsom did to Xi when she went to San Francisco, and they kind of opened it up. So they're kind of showing the best, and hey, we want to make sure.
Starting point is 00:25:36 sure you feel good about it. Now, the part about Taiwan, Tom, that a lot of people are saying, like even you said, I don't know if it's going to happen, it's not going to happen. So this is the part, messaging from everybody. Yes, we saw the chips with Nvidia, $75,000 chips to each of those company, Alibaba, Tenssen, Bightense, JD.com, Foxcon, all that. Yes, the 200 jets confirmed Boeing being sold at a price of $21 to $24 billion, estimated value. Yes, you know, they were supposed to the 500, but when it came down to Taiwan, Xi was not changing. And even there was a moment where they asked about the topic of Taiwan to Trump and Xi. And it was an awkward moment. Rob, do you have that clip? The watch this moment here on when they ask about Taiwan. Neither
Starting point is 00:26:23 one of them want to comment on it. Go ahead, Rob. It's great. Great place. Incredible. China's beautiful. China's beautiful. Right. China's beautiful. Right? China's beautiful. Now, Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one here first. Xi warned, okay? This is a Xi to Trump private sessions, Chinese FM readout, May 13th. The Taiwan issue is the most significant concern in the China-U.S. relation, if addressed properly, stability. Conversely, mishandling could lead to clashes and conflicts. This is Xi, privately, okay? Taiwan's red line, China's red line. The Taiwan issue lies at the heart of China's fundamental interest. Foreign Minister Lin Jian,
Starting point is 00:27:08 okay, Xi pressed Trump to publicly oppose Taiwan independence. Xi pressed Trump to say, hey, leave these guys alone. Then Rubio's counter, Rob, if you have the clip with Rubio, Rubio was like, no, this is not what we're doing, because, you know, the whole part of why this is creating the conflict is because Trump was about to sell $11 billion of arms package to them, and they authorized the largest ever Taiwan arms deal but has not begun fulfilling.
Starting point is 00:27:35 fulfilling. China demanded Washington honor its commitments. And this is in December 20, 25. So here's what Ruby had to say. Go ahead, Rob. Yeah, U.S. policy on the issue of Taiwan is unchanged as of today and as of the meeting that we had here today. It was raised. They always raise it on their side. We always make clear our position and we move on to the other topics. We know where they stand. And I think they know where we stand. Yeah, US policy. Straight up. Okay, for him to have that conversation. And by the way, Taiwan said thank you, you know, express gratitude for Washington's long-term support and views actions contributing to regional stability positively.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Xi is saying, hey, halt the $11 billion weapon sale to Taiwan. So you have to realize this is an interesting place because China can, like, wait a minute, you want me to be okay with you selling to Taiwan, but you don't want me to sell and help out Iran? Why not? This is a double standard. So they're probably going to use that in the negotiation tactics to see who has, what, leverage, Tom. What do you stand with this? Where I stand is this, don't sell that stuff to them.
Starting point is 00:28:32 To Taiwan? Yeah. So when they say that, stop, don't do this. What they're really saying is we're going to take it. We're going to take it. And if you're selling this, you're going to make it more bloody. Because if we don't jump in or Japan offers support or even Australia offers support, you know, naval support, Japan, Australia, they can get there very quickly.
Starting point is 00:28:58 They can be part of a blockade. If no one jumps in, they're just going to take it. That's what they're telling you. And when they say don't sell that stuff and they make that the lead argument, Pat, they're telling you, they're telling you that they're going to do it. And they're planning to do it sooner than later. And they don't want a heavier armed Taiwan. They want to do to Taiwan exactly what we did in Venezuela. We didn't take over Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:29:23 We came in and we had the U.S. Special Forces give special Uber services for Maduro, right? We're going to give you a ride. Ride to New York. I don't want to go to New York. Not too bad. Get in. Now, here's your track suit. So it's like, and we took them.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So that's what's going on. China is very, very clear. They are going to do this. And I think it's, you can do it with an overwhelming military threatening force without bloodshed. And I think that's exactly what China has in mind. And they do not want Taiwan to have significant new weapons to fight back because now it becomes bloody. And now it becomes big. Yeah, and by the way, while this is going on with the Taiwan, I think that's a massive issue because I think the Taiwan issue, China is going to say the same with Iran, which is interesting how they'll handle that.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Then Xi is also bringing up and talking about the fact that this whole thing with Iran is lowering the amount of transactions and business that's being done. So, hey, we got to kind of figure this out as well because, you know, we got to figure out straight of Hormuz fairly fast because it's impacting business. It's impacting business. So then Besson comes out and says, hey, this is why China has a significantly greater interest in reopening the Strait of Hormuz compared to the U.S. And he's right. He's right.
Starting point is 00:30:42 So Trump's like, yeah, whatever. But they're like, yeah, maybe whatever to you, but we're being impacted by it. Rob, I don't know if you have that clip by Bessent on Besson making comments in regards to this. Is that it, Rob, or is it a different clip? I believe this is a different clip. This is him talking about the bilateral board of trains.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Well, it kind of goes with it. I put this one, kind of goes with it. Vice Premier and I, who have a very good working relationship, I think we've seen each other. This was either our eighth or ninth meeting. Worked on the agenda for today's meeting in terms of the economics, the deliverables. And so we talked about purchases. We talked about some issues that the Chinese side had. And we're going to talk about forming a board.
Starting point is 00:31:31 board of trade for the bilateral trade between the U.S. and China, and we're going to talk about a board of investment that will be responsible for investment in non-sensitive areas. Yeah, so, okay, so there's Besson talking about that. You know, he's kind of bringing up on the economy side because he's dealing with a different issue. And in the meantime, you know who people are talking about that's missing? the guy named J.D. Vance that wasn't on the trip. Now, you know, Tom made a very clear yesterday
Starting point is 00:32:05 why J.D. and the president didn't travel together. Tom, if you want to make that clear for the audience, why the president and the VP don't travel together. The president of VP don't travel on the same plane together at all. That's just for safety. I mean, they could be going to Nebraska. You just don't want to have something happen and have them both lost.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Yeah, so that's something that's been historic. It's not like it's a big deal. However, they don't send J.D. on a plane over the China either. They don't want both men on full. foreign, both people, the president could be a female in the future, vice president could be a female. They do not want both individuals on the same foreign soil away. And same thing.
Starting point is 00:32:40 You already said that. So it's the same thing, that they don't want the same person to go on the same place and the same plane. So here's JD, making fun about it, joking about the fact that why he wasn't there. Go ahead, Rob. You know, the president just landed in China a few hours ago. I always, you know, you may know that because of Secret Service protocols that I don't travel outside of the country with the president of the United States. So on days today, I sometimes feel
Starting point is 00:33:03 like McCauley Calkin and home alone. I walk into the White House and it's very quiet and no one's there. And it takes me a second to realize exactly what's going on. But we've got a very big announcement today, actually, a number of big announcements. So JD wasn't there. And so, you know, why isn't J.D. there? Why is he taking Ruby or why is Ruby, you know, negotiate and J.D.'s not going, that was the reason. In this specific moment, it's not like one side or the other. However, Is there anything else, Rob, with China that we got to address before we get into the next story, China or Taiwan? It was one funny clip, Pat, that we didn't play when he goes, how'd you feel meeting him on Hannity? And he goes, he's very tall for a Chinese man.
Starting point is 00:33:40 He was, I'm dead serious. Rob, can you play it? Brad, he goes, he's very tall, central casting. He had to, he had to, because he is tall, Pat. Yeah, he's a giant. When you look for a leader of China to play a role in a movie, Central casting. He's central casting.
Starting point is 00:33:57 You couldn't find a guy like him. Even his physical features, you know, he's tall, very tall. And especially for this country, they tend to be a little bit shorter. You look at the military. I mean, the military today was incredible. That military marching was incredible. He basically, I mean...
Starting point is 00:34:17 If you went to Hollywood... He's saying he's tall. He's the big guy. That's not common. Who's the tallest Chinese basketball? basketball player that they had? Yau Ming? Yao Ming.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Yeah, Yal Ming was 7-4. And the story of Yomeng is, to the tallest parents, I think Yal-Ming was 7-4. Can you type in Yal-Meng, watch him be 7-6? You might be right. I think Yal-Ming was 7-4. But let's just check. Y'all, 7-6. You know basketball more than me, Pat.
Starting point is 00:34:44 What I want? This one you got. Okay, now do Murosan and Manut-Bol. George, that's 7-7. You don't like when I tell stories. I've got a great. Muris-on, some reports say he's 7-8. Go ahead. George Miroson.
Starting point is 00:34:56 George Murison. How tall was George Murison? George Murison was not in Yomerson. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Good one. Myrason was 7-7.
Starting point is 00:35:02 7. 7. Okay. Do me favor. Ask the question on chat, GBT. Can you do me if ever ask the question on chat, GBT? Manute bowl was what? How tall was?
Starting point is 00:35:12 7-7 as well, sir. Manute ball was 7-7. Maybe 7-6. I thought he was 7-6. I got drunk with me-Bull. I got to give you. Mine not bowl. 7-7-7.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Yeah. Tom. So going back. You're so funny. Yao Meng, being the fact that he's 7-4, the internet got it wrong. Thanks for the set. Yao Ming, you know the story with who his parents were? Two of the best athletes in China,
Starting point is 00:35:35 they said you guys got to make a baby together. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like an arranged marriage? Go type in Yao Ming's parents. Yao Ming's parents are 6-3 and 6-7. They're like, you, you, make a baby. And they made y'am-a-bri-bye. By the way, they had a one-child policy.
Starting point is 00:35:50 They knocked it out of the park. Wow, that's crazy. And they did three children because of the height. Like they counted the Almingas three kids. You know, in population, he counts us three people in the population because of the high. But anyways, that's a little rascal. So going back to this. So look, so there was like four or five inappropriate jokes made that I think four of them they miss, which is good.
Starting point is 00:36:09 We'll skip to the next part. Let's go to the next story that we have. So this is the part about the 500,000 Chinese students in U.S. universities. Rob, if you want to play this clip, Tom, I'm going to come to you on this one first because I know you're a big fan of it. Go ahead, Rob. It's 500,000 students they come, good students. I could tell them, I don't want any students is a very insulting thing to say to a country. They would then immediately go out and start building universities all over China.
Starting point is 00:36:38 But if you don't have those students, good students, by the way. If you don't, and we do another thing, you know, if they're good and they want to stay in America, we won't give them a green card and things like that. You know, and that's not only them but other countries, but if you want to see a, university system die, take a half a million people out of it. It's five. But Pat, the same token, like, okay, like, again, I'm not going to act like I know everything. I wasn't in any of these meetings, obviously, but you can't on one hand say they spy on us
Starting point is 00:37:09 and we spy on them. If you don't think the CCP is talking to every single one of those students and maybe, let's just say conservatively, Tom, ready for, hey, numbers talk. Are you ready, Tom? Out of 500,000, let's say 5% are spies. Or 5% are, what is that? A 500,000 command? How many are spies?
Starting point is 00:37:29 Probably 501,000. So five, no, I'm asking you the numbers. It's a 2,500. 2,500. We don't trust. And then on the same, and then the flip side. 25,000, 25,000 students that could potentially could be spies. And then you're going to say, well, they're probably good students.
Starting point is 00:37:46 No, I'm sorry, Pat. You can't trust them. Are we sending our students? Yeah, because this goes to the story of Arcadia, Rob. If you want to go to it, a mayor, in Arcadia, who did all her campaigns in Chinese. And then eventually she comes out and she says what? I'm a spy.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Check this. Is this the one, Rob? Yes, sir. Eileen Wang? Go ahead, Rob. Now at 11 from secret messages to pro-China propaganda. The SoCal mayor accused of acting as an illegal covert agent for Beijing for years. Good evening.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I'm Micah Olman. And I'm Cher, Calvin. The mayor of Arcadia has now resigned and taken a plea deal after the FBI says, as she admitted to secretly serving the interests of the Chinese government. Carlos Sonsanto, live in Arcadia for us tonight, Carlos. It looks like a real-life anchorment. My good share, the city of Arcadia is without a mayor tonight after Eileen Wang stepped down following these federal charges. Now, she's accused of acting as a foreign agent for the Chinese government, and tonight, the Trump administration is weighing in.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Arquivia, the third century. That's Eileen Wang, in 2020. campaign video when she was running for Arcadia City Council. So this is she, did they not see that one coming? Where is like speaking? Like, she is like speaking like complete China. Well, apparently, and this is allegedly, Eric Swalwell wanted to spy on her. Really? And he, yeah, because that's his type and they couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:39:14 She doesn't think, but the point is, so this is the part, it's a real issue that a lot of Americans are worried saying, hey, wait a minute. I thought it's America first. I thought it's about us first And it's like, no, it's really the education And Humberto made a very good point about You know, you come here, you learn the system And then you take the stuff back And you're doing what you're doing over there.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And so, and then also at the same time, it's like if the U.S. educational system is not performing And it's losing And it's going in a direction what we're seeing What results it is. Well, maybe some of them got to go out of business. This is 500,000 customers you're bringing to some of the guys. So that's the criticism
Starting point is 00:39:50 of the educational system. Rob, you're so funny. You pull up this clip right now to go to it. But yeah, I'm already laughing, playing this. This is our, by the way, this is our current educational system on how well our students read in some of the markets. Where is this, Rob? Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:40:05 This is Philadelphia. Go ahead, Rob. Read the Indiescar family. She were a suit clothes that were... Are you serious? Who's this for? Oh, my. This is Joe.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Ordinary but somewhat Gertcher? No, explain what that mean? I don't know. She were a Sahalot of clothes that were extra during me, whatever, bro. But somewhat, what does that mean? She wore a lot, wait, she were, bro, I don't know, bro. If you take the cart back, please. She wore a...
Starting point is 00:40:45 Oh, baby. She wear a silhouette of... What is this, right? clothes that were... Is this a joke? No, no. This is a hard time saying silhouettes. I don't even know how to be.
Starting point is 00:40:55 I don't know how to be. She wore a silhouette of clothes that were extraordinary. Go to the, is there the last one, Rob? Is there something at the end? Oh, this is the one that he gets, keep going, Rob, keep going, Rob. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Now, what does that mean? I have a lot of it. Yeah. She were. This is the one. The kid, this is. I don't know what this is saying. I don't know what this is saying.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I don't know what this is saying. I don't know what this is saying. By the way, we're laughing at these kids. But what's funny is that it's not even funny. It's our educational system is letting down these kids. Standards, you don't know how to say the word silhouette. Now, listen, when I first came to the States, I don't know how to say Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Because we would watch a show called Gilligan's Island. Yes. I don't know if you guys remember Gilligan's Iceland, right? You would eat Lazagna? Yeah, Lazagna, right? We didn't know how to, I don't know how to, but I was fresh off the boat. You know, we just got off, I swam across,
Starting point is 00:41:49 and it was like we came and went to school. It was a different scenario. If you were born and raised here and you have a hard time with some of these words, our educational systems got a bit of a fixing to do. So Tom, let me ask you, is Jensen Wong celebrating right now to coming back from China?
Starting point is 00:42:05 Who's the biggest winner? Who are the biggest losers coming back from China? So I think the biggest winner is still in China, and it's those companies that now are going to be able to buy more powerful chips. and Jensen may be a winner. Let's go take a look today, see what the market thinks on the flatback. Oh, down 10 bucks.
Starting point is 00:42:27 So they gave back the gain that they had yesterday. Wow, that's interesting. Okay, right? So they march up the mountain, they march down the mountain. That's interesting. Look at that. Up, you know, up a day ago, 10 bucks, and now down. Winners and losers.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Are there any clear winners and losers with this? I think Nvidia is a clear winner. I think all those companies in China that got the more powerful chips are clear winners. I think Citibank is a clear winner. They've wanted to have kind of the equivalent of RIA for wealthy Chinese over there. Now they get that opportunity. So I think that was a clear winner. And I'm going to wait and see if there's any other trade deals that get announced.
Starting point is 00:43:07 But those, I think, are the clear winners right now. And what's also very interesting, how many times did Scott Besson say he's been, you know, engaged and over there and talking to people? nine times, right? Did you know that that was one cabinet member we've had talked nine times? I went back and looked it up and apparently under Biden, it wasn't until 23 or 24
Starting point is 00:43:28 right before the election where Lloyd Austin went over there, John Kerry went over there, but they only had like six visits among four cabinet members. So this is Trump also. I think there is a winner. You're going to think this is odd,
Starting point is 00:43:45 but I think it's a winner for the dialogue, that there is a dialogue that is happening with China, and it's active. We may not like everything that's coming out of it. I know I don't, but I think the winner is that we're talking because when people talk usually temperature of certain things goes down and other things tend to get done. So for that respect, I think it's a winner that we're talking, not yelling at each other across media from half a world away. Yeah, Adam, your thoughts? I think United States is the big winner because we are the big winner. I agree with Tom's point.
Starting point is 00:44:17 They used some term when they left the meeting. They said the whole point of this is to have a constructive, strategic stability. You know, I said I think the United States should replace peace through strength through stability through strength because we're not going to have peace with all our enemies. We're not going to have peace with Iran necessarily or necessarily not be competitors or rivals with China, but we can't speak. the last time the United States had a country that was coming for the number one spot
Starting point is 00:44:49 for the hegemony was the USSR. Now, if you compare what's going on with China versus the USSR in the 80s, 70s and 80s, it's not even close. Why? We weren't even speaking with Russia at the time, right? The Cold War. We saw the movie with Reagan and Dennis Quaid. We had no business relationship with the USSR.
Starting point is 00:45:08 It was complete capitalism on one side of the world and communism on the other side of the world. The state of the world these days is we actually have a relationship with them. They describe it as potential strategic stability type relationship. The reality is this. We use them for certain things. They use those for certain things. But they're never going to beat us.
Starting point is 00:45:28 And this is why they have to lie, cheat, and steal and have fake mayors spying on all of us. Because China's never going to beat America if all things are considered equal. Yeah. Now, while we're talking about this, you know, and we're kind of going through what's going on here the conversations that people are having. JD and Rubios, like, hey, who's going to be the VP? And there is a moment here where Trump jokes, Trump jokes with J.D. Vance about assassination at him as he touts,
Starting point is 00:45:58 support for his 2028 successor, and then Vance jokes at Trump, you've got to see this. This is purely made for TV. Go ahead, Rob. I want to thank also a friend of mine, Secret Service Director, Sean Curran. I see you back there, Sean. Thank you very much. And I thought you did a great job two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:46:18 You know why? Because I'm here, okay? We consider being here a success. And I'll tell you what, your people are all over the place. You know, you got a little, no matter how well you do, are they going to find fault? But I will be the one to find fault if I think there was fault. They had great professional people.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And they came out, and within seconds, I saw them take J.D. by the shoulders and lift them up like he was a little boy. I said, how come they didn't lift me up so fast? They lifted J.D. got ripped out of the chair. That was a view of the week. But they did the job, J.D., right? I think so. Well, J.D. comes out, and he says the following about who's going to be the president, 2028. This is what he had to say. Go ahead, Rob.
Starting point is 00:47:08 It's not us who are bringing this up a couple days ago. Trump made this statement to people in the Rose Garden. Why do you think he does that? Do you think it's a little bit of toying with you both over your succession? Why do you think he brings that up, just number one? Well, I just don't think it sounds like the President of the United States to have a televised competition for who would succeed him as his approach. I just think that's not at all what you would expect the President to do.
Starting point is 00:47:35 That was good. But, no, look, I think the President, he's always been fascinated by politics. If you talk to him, he was fascinated by politics 30 years before we ever ran for office. So I think it's natural for him to joke around with us a little bit, to play around with the idea. But I can tell you the president is as focused as any of us on making sure we do as good of a job now for the American people. Yeah, so, hey, he's kind of playing with Apprentice and here, Rubio, Trump, all this other stuff. That was good. That was good. That was good that's happened in the exchange. Vinnie, where are you at with this, with the whole Rubio and Van stuff?
Starting point is 00:48:06 I think it's, I mean, I think it's too early for like the fireworks. If you think about it, once we get to, you know, a year out, a year out, then it's going to be they're going to have to be going after each other. It's inevitable. And I think the split is going to be, depending on the Iran war, Rubio is going to be the, you know, the Republicans' choice, you know, strength, war and all that stuff. And Jady, and remember, remember building up, Tom. He was in those meetings.
Starting point is 00:48:34 and the president said he was, I quote, less enthusiastic about the war and all that stuff. And then all this joking and stuff, Pat, is going to be a one day you're going to see, boom, shots fired, no pun intended. It's going to be going after his throat, going after his throat, and then the whole movement is going to split.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And it's going to be the people's choice. And I don't see a real outsider, whoever the outsider is going to be, it's wherever the money is going to be put in, Pat. Because, you know, we did the stat of however, whoever has the most money, what was the percentage, Robbie? remember, wins the election or wins the nomination. So I think it's a little too early, but depending
Starting point is 00:49:10 on the Iran war goes, I think it's going to be, it's going to be neck and neck. Yeah. Let's go to the next story. Tom, next story I'm going to go into is this story about what happened in Cuba, where Cuba's got some interesting thing going on there. A story comes out about U.S. take steps to indict former Cuban leader Raul Castro because of what happened with, you know, him over the 1996 plane shoot down. If you want to go a little bit lower, there was a humanitarian plane that allegedly was going down there. Possible charges related to a 30-year-old case that involved Cuban government shooting down two planes operated by a humanitarian group in 1996 sources that any indictment would have to be issued by a grand jury after being presented with evidence in the case. News that the
Starting point is 00:49:53 United States was looking to indict Castro came hours after CIA director Ratcliffe led a delegation to Havana on May 14 to deliver a message from the president to Cuban officials and Raul Guillermo Rodriguez Castro, who's the elder Castro's grandson, if you want to go a little bit lower, the potential indictment for the Cuban leader, Arwood Castro, now 94, and the charges were reported by CBS News. I mean, this administration likes to go after people above 85 years old. You've got dominate, man, these guys are like targeting the elderly.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Well, they don't run fast. They don't run fast. The 1996, that was funny. The 1996 shootdown of two civilian planes operated by the exile group brothers to the rescue. remains one of the most politically charged episodes in modern U.S.-Cuba relations and one in which the U.S. officials are pressing.
Starting point is 00:50:39 You know what it almost feels like, Tom? It almost feels like they're sitting there and you know how we sit in a room and we'll say, okay, how do we take over Cuba? Step number one, this is one way. Number two, number one is by force. Number two is by getting the people revolt. Number three is prevent oil from going there
Starting point is 00:51:03 Number four is regime change regime change Number five is Let's go arrest Raul Castro Okay I almost feel like they sit in a room And have these things that they write
Starting point is 00:51:14 With their phones being out What is that the room That's the room that they're making all the big decisions Situation room Situation room And lawyers say Well we can go And use a grand jury
Starting point is 00:51:26 To go after this And then we go and do this What is the likelihood That you think things like this are taking place in the situation room? I think that's like 85% likely in my book. I think they're looking at it and they're saying exactly what you say. And one of the things is, hey, you know what?
Starting point is 00:51:42 We need the public sentiment. We can't be looking like a bully and everything. Hey, wait a minute. What about the humanitarian airplane that came down? What about that? We'll put that out there. We'll get that there. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:51:53 We can be strangling them for energy. And then we'll make sure the media. Who do we have in the media? CBS. Call CBS. We know her. She'll help us. Great.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And so I think there's a lot of PR. that goes into it, Pat. And I think there's a lot of story that they push for coverage on. I mean, it is true right now that the situation in Cuba factually, getting away from any jokes or humor, it's bad. There's a humanitarian situation that's getting worse in Cuba. It's deteriorating. They're running out of fuel reserves.
Starting point is 00:52:21 They have generators that run the water pumping plants, Pat. They're low on not only electricity, because if there's a blackout, then the power doesn't come to the water pumping plant. plant, but if they also are a shortage of fuel, they can't run the backup generators at the water pumping plant, which means no water. So there's water shortages, there's power blackouts, and they, in the middle, in the middle of the trip to China, you know who they sent to Cuba? John Ratcliffe, the CIA, you know, and what is he going to do, Vinny? Well, guys, have you had enough? Yeah, exactly. What is the CIA? CIA is not on humanitarian mission. Hey, I got all this food
Starting point is 00:53:02 for you. No, no, that's UNICEF. That's a Red Cross. I'd like to know if you've had enough. And I think that that's what's going on down there. And I think the situation room, you characterize it well. There's multiple levels to going after this, and you need to have public opinion. You need to have public awareness that Cuba is down on, you know, not treating its own people well. I think it all comes together as a package that gives you the excuse to say, okay, we did the Uber from Maduro. load them up and let's go change it. That's a good point. And, Rob, if you want to pull up the Radcliffe picture that he's sitting there in Cuba,
Starting point is 00:53:39 by the way, this just happened either yesterday or day before. Everybody's focused on China. Correct. But they're in Cuba doing these meetings. They're in Cuba having these negotiations. So, again, this is so impressive for them. They are hitting multiple different projects simultaneously at the same time. I'll send it to you, Rob.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Adam, your thoughts on this with Cuba? I would love to see Cuba be freed. I mean, they've been in a relevant... Yeah, I'm just showing a picture. That's the meeting that they're having. Gotcha. You would like to see Cuba be free. Yeah, I mean, look, Cuba has been an irrelevant country since the USSR fell.
Starting point is 00:54:14 They've been a communist outpost that's basically, you know, we know about the Bay of Pigs of Invasion. We know about JFK. We know about the Cold War. But since the USSR fell, they've aligned with the communists that are basically in the western hemisphere, the Venezuela's of the world. But since Trump took out Maduro and, you know, implement. his Don Roe doctrine, as you like to call it. Cuba's been relegated to an island that makes cigars that's 90 miles off the coast of Florida and just basically subjugates their people and they have an economy that's crumbling because
Starting point is 00:54:46 now they don't get oil from Venezuela. You ask the average American what they think about Cuba that are like, Deirao, it's so irrelevant to me. But it means the world to people in Miami and certain people in Florida. I'll give you one shining light. It's always interesting when I see, you know, enemy countries that love America. You know, they said that when USSR fell, it wasn't because of any shots were fired. It was because of our culture took over the USSR.
Starting point is 00:55:18 They wanted to drive American cars. They wanted to buy blue jeans. And I'll tell you this. You know those some of the most common names that come out of Cuba? They all start with U.S. You ever heard this, Pat? Tell me. So because of our ships that out there that say U.S. Navy, there's so many Cubans that are called Yus Navi.
Starting point is 00:55:40 U.S. N.A.V.I. This is a true story, by the. There's thousands of people named U.S. male. There's tons of people that are called women that are called U.S. lady because you're a U.S. lady. They look at. He's being dead serious, by the way. I actually looked it up because I actually looked it up because I'm not. I didn't believe him. They look at America. Oh yeah, what about so?
Starting point is 00:56:06 U.S.S. Navy. They look at America off their coast. They have nothing going on. They're sailing rafts. No, no, no. He's dead serious. Is this serious? No, no, U.S. N-A-V-I.
Starting point is 00:56:15 U.S. No, no, just put it together, Rob. Put it all together. Come on, Ro. I mean, you're looking at images. Is this because comedian told a sketch on this and you guys know? No.
Starting point is 00:56:24 It's not. There's ships that sail across the ocean. while they're trying to build rafts, we have these massive Navy ships, and Cubans look at America like, oh my God, look at the power. They're in awe. Look at the prestige, look at the awe.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And they name their kids after our boats. Use Navy, use mail, use lady, because they have nothing going on. There it is right there. So talk about our perceived enemies who want nothing more to be American. Respect to me, Hente, and Cuba. Guys, I'm shell-shock right now.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Just so you know. because I thought I gave a creative name to our daughter, Sena. No. Named after Arta Senaena's last name. That's a great name. But to say Yosnavi. Yes, Navi. It's a Yusnavi.
Starting point is 00:57:10 It's a second. Yusnavi. It's not a bad name, Vinny. Yus Navi. Look at. Yeah, Yusnavi. Yeah, Uisnavi. The part about Cuba, for whatever reason,
Starting point is 00:57:21 it'd be a beautiful story. Because Cuba and Iran, it was the same time. You know, with Jimmy Carter, with the whole Muriel boat lift that happened and Iran. Happen under Carter. This guy Carter, you know. And by the way, this is Cuba right now.
Starting point is 00:57:36 It's not like they have a little bit of oil. They have zero oil. Folks, watch this. They literally are running on zero. 20 hours of daily blackouts. This is the protest right now in Cuba. Go ahead, Rob. That's correct.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Like, dude, I feel so bad. We are demanding the right to have electricity. We have gone more than 40 hours without electricity. I live in a community where there are There are many elderly people, many of them bedridden. There are many children. Food is going bad inside the refrigerators, the little food that can be obtained. The country's situation is well known, and well, it gave us the motivation to come out to see
Starting point is 00:58:15 if even by banging a pot, they will give us at least three hours of electricity. But this is... They need help. Good for them. for them if we're able to build these guys out and get them to be free, it'll be a place, it's a beautiful place to get a lot of tourism. Tourism could be a
Starting point is 00:58:35 big business for them if they're able to free this place. They get a lot of tourism around the world, just not the United States because of our blockade on our embargo, but, you know, in Miami, I can't tell you how many times I've heard pots and pans in the streets like when Fidel died. When Fidel Castro died was arguably the greatest
Starting point is 00:58:51 day I've ever seen in Miami history. I don't know if you can find in these clips. The pots, the pans, the spatulas, everything out there, they were going insane. When their communist leader died, how many more examples do we need to see of communism and Marxism failing? No, I say we tried one more time. One more time. The dude in New York.
Starting point is 00:59:14 It sounds like the Islamism that they're doing right there isn't working 50,000 times is the charm. And by way, they need it. If they could get this turned around, well, most people don't realize that the ground in Cuba is incredible. incredibly fertile. They could be a major, major, major, major, Western Hemisphere supplier of sugar, coffee, and tobacco, number one. They also have massive mineral. There's this one part of Cuba that whatever it is, it comes out of the bottom of the ocean, fills into these mountains, and it's full of cobalt and nickel, more than almost 92% of the rest of the world, so they could have that.
Starting point is 00:59:50 They could be self-sufficient. It would take 10 years, but they could have a working, you know, partly industrial, partly agricultural, partly aggregation. cultural economy bolstered by tourism. Cuba could work. But it just needs the leadership. More importantly, it needs to be free. But right now, it's a humanitarian crisis. And I hope that can we help them make up their mind about shifting pat and just get enough energy to run the water pumps? Because without the water pumps running, they can't flush the toilets and they can't have drinking water. That one move getting those pumps running so they could have running water, that just breaks my heart because you've got infants and you've got people that are there that are just in a room.
Starting point is 01:00:30 This is it? This is it. Crowd celebrating when Fidel Castro died, Rob played? This is a little Havana. At least four to five hours, a crowd believed to be at least a thousand people are more, stood here in celebration. So this is the part. This is the part where you realize some people go back and remember where they were born
Starting point is 01:00:51 and they want to see that place be free again. And I relate to this. I understand the Cuban people. that are going to do this. Let me get to the next story. Next story I want to get to is, let's go a complete different direction next. I want to get into the story about,
Starting point is 01:01:05 I'll go to this one here, UK Rob. What a weird story, folks. What a weird, disturbing story. So if you're driving, if you're a truck driver driving and you're watching this, it's a disturbing story. If you're a mother right now driving to the shop
Starting point is 01:01:19 or maybe you're watching this on a podcast at work and you're sitting down and doing your thing, listen to this weird story. Sikh man stabbed 18-year-old university student to death with an 8-inch ceremonial knife after claiming he'd been racially abused, court here. So now if you look at this main tagline, you're like, okay, maybe he was saying something. But watch what happens here. University student died after being repeatedly stabbed by a man,
Starting point is 01:01:44 armed with a Sikh ceremonial sword, financed student Henry Noak, 18 years old, was on his way home from a night out when he was allegedly attacked by stranger Vikram Digwa, 23 years over an 8-inch, Shastard Blade. Vigal was caught on camera saying, I am a bad man. Before the fatal attack, jurors were told, Rob, can you go a little bit lower?
Starting point is 01:02:04 And he continues. He is now on trial, accused of murder alongside with his mother, 53, who was accused of assisting an offender. The prosecutor said she went on the scene before running home with a knife to stash it among an arsenal of weapons there. They both denied the charges.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Southampton Crown Court, heard Mr. Noak was in the first term of studying accountancy and finance at Southampton University when he went for a night out in the city on December 3rd, 2023 with friends. The teenager went home out around 11 p.m. And having drunk less than the legal to drive, juror were told he was speaking of friends on Snapchat
Starting point is 01:02:38 when he was dug across Digwa. When he came across Digwa after he was stabbed, Mr. Noak tried to climb a fence to escape, but Digwa was aggressively pursuing him, leaving a trail of blood. The corridor, police were called to the scene but arrested Mr. Nowak. After Degwa claimed he had been racially abused, Mr. Novak was in handcuffed before passing out.
Starting point is 01:02:59 And dying in the street a short time later. Prosecutor Nicholas Lonomber, KC said, put simply, Henry drowned in his own blood with his lung having been cut by the knife going eight centimeters into him. Deguah raises the defense of self-defense. He persisted that Henry perpetrated a drunken racist attack. He says that he doesn't recall exactly how to fatal wound came to be inflicted if you want to go a little bit low. that's the student, okay, that died. Go a little bit low, Rob. Is there any more in the opening capture?
Starting point is 01:03:31 I don't know if he was captured. It was a moment he met Digwell was carrying an extremely large knife at a half past midnight. Noak was dead. Vinny, when you hear a story like this, what do you think about? And where was this taken? Where does this happen? This is in...
Starting point is 01:03:45 United Kingdom. Yeah, it's in UK, but the city is... I mean, he's going to South Hampton, so choose what city that's going to be in. And I saw somebody yesterday in some panels. I don't know if it was an older clip of Bill Maher and this lady's talking to a panelist She's like everything you guys are talking about
Starting point is 01:03:59 about England and it's all fake It's all fake news and Bill Maher was like Really? Really? Look at this case. Look at this is exactly it And the fact that you're handcuffing the person Bleeding out. That should tell you Everything you need to know about what's the priority to these people and I can't tell you
Starting point is 01:04:18 How many clips I see online All the time of these soft cops when they show up at they're always going after the white person. Like when it's this type of situation, this ma'am, they're like, you shouldn't be saying this and you shouldn't be saying that. And mind you, it's a massive group over there that's coming after the one person. Okay, it's unbelievable. It's un, and it's because of people like that.
Starting point is 01:04:37 It's because of people like Kirstarmer, and the fact that Pat, they've let so many people in, just like the rape gangs, the Pakistani rape gangs, they let them all, they're like, we can't, we have to let them go because we don't want to look like we're racist. This is unbelievable, and this is why this, I'm telling you, the UK has fallen, Pat, and there's no way coming back for them. It's over.
Starting point is 01:04:56 They've opened the gates and the people have come in and it's over. It's over. And as a police officer, Pat, you should know. As a police officer, you show up to the scene. You were a police officer. You were military police. Somebody's bleeding out. The hell would they call the paramedics.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Get the paramedics there ASAP and why you hang? Time out. I'm bleeding out. You're going to handcuff me. Meanwhile, the guy that did the stabbing is standing there and nothing happens to him. That's unbelievable. And I hope that they sue them. I hope that they sue the freaking government.
Starting point is 01:05:27 But good luck with that. Good luck with suing them because they don't want to look racist or get the other guy in trouble. Unbelievable. Thoughts. You know, when you are out there with ceremonial blades and you are, in the words of people there, you know, incapacitated in some way, he says he doesn't remember who was drunk, both were drunk. You know, it's terrible. My opinion of this is that when you basically are poorly patrolled and do not have adequate deterrence,
Starting point is 01:06:03 instead you have people that are defending by default, hang on, don't say anything bad about him just because he's not from around here in terms of historical England. Don't say anything. When you first are doubting your own citizens and protecting those other people, I get that we don't want to have, you know, racial, have immigrants come to any country and be the subject of racial persecution. But when you're defending them by default and assuming that your own people are at fault, you've lost it. And England has lost it. And people are going to get on the chat and say, oh, you're not over here. You haven't been over here?
Starting point is 01:06:43 No, I haven't. But I can read and I can see, and I can see Kirstarmer today saying, oh, don't protest. We want peace. don't go out and protest and it's just it's sick it's sick you've lost you've lost the plot look I don't want to overinflate this but I know a lot of Sikh people do you know a lot of Sikhs they're different from Indians they're certainly different from Islamists they actually practice something that it's almost like libertarianism they believe in peace first and force only if necessary so I don't know what this is
Starting point is 01:07:20 individual situation here. I'm not going to comment on what the kid said, and I'm not just going to defend the white kid. But I know that many Sikhs are very peaceful. I'm not going to say pacifists, but don't push them. I mean, I don't know what happened here. So I'm not at any way, shape, or form going after any certain community, certainly not the Sikh community. What I will say, there's something going on in the UK. And it seems to be systemic. When you import the third world, and a lot of them are Islamists that have come from Afghanistan or Syria or Pakistan. and you want to turn a blind eye to whatever's happening there. And then what's the whole thing with Leslie Nielsen and the naked gun when the house is burning down, Vinnie? And he's like, nothing to see you here, guys. You know, the Pakistani rape game, nothing to see you here. Hey, Tommy Robinson wants to do a rally in our friend, what's our Polish friend's name? Dominic Targinski is not allowed in because of his views.
Starting point is 01:08:14 When people are censored over or arrested for social media posts, there's something a slippery slope going on in the UK and if you say something about it, you're deemed racist. To me, we're seeing what's going on in the UK and in London and in Southampton and in Binghamton and all these cities right there. And it's basically saying, guys, we're probably 10 years away if we don't do something about this.
Starting point is 01:08:38 And I'll just give one last point. Thank God we have Trump. Because if we had another administration that was like Biden and like Kamala, I can't even imagine what this country would look like. like, so thank you President Trump for standing up for American Western values. You know what my main challenges here, Adam? My main challenge with this isn't if it's a Sikh or a Muslim or whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 01:09:01 My main challenge is, while the other guy is bleeding, what are you doing not going to him to attend to him just because the other guy said I'm offended? If that story is what happened, and that's what it's in the reports, your first job, it doesn't matter if somebody's getting, say the other guy is the killer or the other guy's the victim, if that guy just got shot and he's getting killed, you're supposed to tend to him as well to make sure he makes it. It's not like, well, you know, he's a secondhand citizen. Let's just go to the other person.
Starting point is 01:09:25 In this case, they're treating the kid that was going to school, middle of the night, secondhand citizen. Yeah, let him die out because he offended you. Oh, my God, we can't say anything like that. That's a part that becomes slippery slope where you have to make sure your citizens feel safe. If your citizens don't feel safe, then what happens? So now how many parents are now saying, well, honey, like imagine if your kids are, You get this report comes out and your kids going to Southampton University.
Starting point is 01:09:50 What are you doing? What's the first thing you tell on your kid? Hey, don't go out. Stay home. Stay on the campus. Let's take the kids out of school. These are thoughts people shouldn't be having, you know, as you're going through this. Vinny, you look like you want to say something.
Starting point is 01:10:05 And I don't think about it. White kid walking home. Other kid stabs him. Says whatever he said, Rob, like, I got one or whatever he says. the mother shows up, gets rid of the weapon, and they have an arsenal of weapons. That is a huge problem. Gee.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Yeah, and the government can't say anything, Adam, because they know that this is the result. These are the consequences of their policies letting all these people in, okay, for whatever reason they want, votes or whatever, or to destroy the nation because that's what they want to do. This is the George Floyd moment, like Homberto said,
Starting point is 01:10:41 of their time. That's it. He's walking home. Adam, there's no words. that could come out of your mouth. I know Pat, we have the Chud, the builder story after, too. There's no words that could come out of your mouth right now, that a stabbing, and then when the cops show up,
Starting point is 01:10:55 they handcuff you and you're bleeding out. And the other kid goes, hey, I know I have blood on my hands, because he definitely had blood on his hands. That guy called me a terrorist or a Muslimist or Islamist, whatever. No, no, there's no excuse. There's no excuse. And the saddest thing is Pat made the point, is if the government, the police and everybody are like,
Starting point is 01:11:12 hey, what happened? Oh, you're dying? He called me racist. Oh, to hell with that. guy handcuff him. What? This is the same nation, Adam, that if you are on social media, there was a gang raping in Germany. They went into this park and they raped it. 11 people showed up. They were texting each other. Show up and let's rape this girl. They went to court. Guess who did the most jail time? A woman who found his WhatsApp and message him and said,
Starting point is 01:11:36 hey, you're a rapist, you're a pervert. She did more time. That is the freaking government. The government is protecting these people and it's disgusting. it's disgusting. I mean, look, there was a story similar to this. I want to say in an anti-Islam protest where a kid is saying some things, this guy comes to attack him. I don't know if you have this one, Rob, or not. And this happened in the States. Let me see this one here. What was this at? Tragical in Mannheim attack or Manhattan attack and Afghan attacks and anti-Islam rally. An on-site police officer rushes in and pins to the ground, an anti-Islam activist, the police officer is then stabbed to death in the throat by the terrorist whom he
Starting point is 01:12:20 has turned his back on. Watch the picture go a little bit lower. That's how he died. Of course, you're blurring the whole thing out. So this is stuff that you just got to be aware of, that this doesn't show up here. Safety is super, super critical. We can't lose our common sense. Let me get to the next story. Next story I want to talk about is another one of these interesting story. So James Comey is being asked by the interview. I actually thought it was a great sequencing of question saying, why did you not accept a pardon? If President Trump was to give you a pardon back in 2018, would you have accepted it? He said no. She says why. He goes on to teach her the history of pardons and what it means if you accept a pardon. Watch this year. Go ahead, Rob.
Starting point is 01:13:11 President Biden for a preemptive pardon as Trump was coming back into office. Never. Go back, Rock. Do you think you would have given you on if he asked? Did you ever think about asking President Biden for a preemptive pardon as Trump was coming back into office? Never. Do you think you would have given you one if you'd asked? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:28 I wouldn't have accepted it. Supreme Court said in 1914 that the acceptance of a pardon is it admission of guilt. It's what consoled Gerald Ford when he pardoned Richard Nixon. He carried a quote from the case in his wallet until the day he died because it meant Nixon had admitted guilt. And so I'm not guilty. I am innocent. so I wouldn't be accepting any pardons.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Do you think the people that Biden did preemptively pardon or guilty of crimes? Well, I'm just telling you what the Supreme Court said. By accepting a pardon, it's an admission of guilt. And so I hope they thought about it carefully. Did you ever think about... So now Fauci accepted a pardon. Asked for clemency and then got a pardon. Yeah, so let me ask you, Comey.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Is he guilty? Based on your assessment, he's guilty, right? And then so a whistleblower comes out that was working with Fauci and the video clip shows that this person, person claimant, Rob, do you have the clip with where this fellow comes out talking about that he worked with Fauci and, this is it. James Erdman the third. Watch this folks. Watch this. Go ahead. Public health policy would have been very different. Had the American public been made aware that a virus from a lab in China was going to serve as the foundation for an emergency use authorization MRNA products.
Starting point is 01:14:43 being mandated by the former administration. Dr. Fauci's role in the cover-up was intentional. Dr. Fauci influenced the analytical process and findings by leveraging his position to ensure the IC consulted with a conflicted list of curated subject matter experts, public health officials, and scientists. This included some of the authors of the paper,
Starting point is 01:15:15 the proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2, and other public health experts who have been in his orbit for the last 20 plus years. Vinny, thoughts? I mean, so this is why Americans, and I know the majority of the people out there, Pat, that are listening, that are dealing with this,
Starting point is 01:15:33 are furious, okay? And it's almost as if it was 20 years ago some people were acting like it. This was a couple years ago. Businesses shut down. People lost jobs. Careers destroyed. Families divided.
Starting point is 01:15:47 loss of friends, loss of family members, people dealing with all these sicknesses and all this turbo cancer and everything in Alpa, and people are asking, why, why, the main question, why did Fauci push so hard to steer everybody away for the lab leak theory? That's the main thing, Pat. Why? Was it because the NIH funding connected the gain of function research, ended up in Wuhan with EcoHealk Alliance that we owned? We owned that thing. It was open during Obama. You know what I mean? Or was it because admitting the lab league would expose the years of all the funding, the relationships, the careers, the connections. And then some people are going darker, Pat.
Starting point is 01:16:23 A lot of people out there believe that this leak might have been deliberate. Okay? Look at the funding. Look at the pharmaceutical profits. Pat, they made a trillion dollars on all this stuff. The speed of the vaccine rollout. And then the billions made during the pandemic. And people believe that powerful people protected each other while the public suffered.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Okay? And then you find out that he was begging for clemency. He gets a preemptive pardon. Okay? And like you show the the James Comey thing. It's just like what do we do, Pat? As the American public, what do we do with someone like Fauci? I'm not saying doing anything physical, anything stupid like that.
Starting point is 01:17:00 But think about this. People, for the people out there that lost a mother, Pat, that couldn't go even see her because of his made up draconian laws that they made during the pandemic. Or if you're out there and you have a child that, God forbid, was playing a sport and they collapsed and their heart stopped. Or right now you have children that are suffering from myocarditis, which I did the research, they don't live that long, okay? They don't live that long. So what do people do about this time?
Starting point is 01:17:25 Because it's clearly, it's blatantly obvious. These people at the top are protected at the highest level. Preemptive pardon. And listen, I am not a fan of Comey by the least, okay? I know he's one of these deep state actors, all the Russia collusion and everything. He is not good for the country. but at least in this moment, he's being honest. If you're innocent, you don't need a pardon.
Starting point is 01:17:49 But to beg the president for clemency and then you get the preemptive point, you're a doctor Fauci, okay? This is Chris Cuomo's buddy, his pal, okay? The amount of destruction and death that he did pat, something has to happen to this guy. I don't know if in the courts or find a way because he's walking around Scott Free
Starting point is 01:18:09 for the rest of his life, okay? He needs to pay for all the same. suffering and all the pain that's happened to these people. Because if the public stops paying attention to this type of stuff, and we let it go, nothing's ever going to change, ever. What's to stop them again? What's to stop them from this hanta virus blowing up, and they do the same exact thing? So I'm sorry, it just drives me crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Tom, thoughts. So I have a couple thoughts here. Before I come to you, here's a DOJ, by the way. I'm going to come to because I want to go what Vinny said on what the DOJ is thinking about doing right now. They're weighing. They're weighing new criminal case against Fauci, despite Biden's auto pen partner and statute of limitations.
Starting point is 01:18:43 is running out. So this just, do you have a Fox News clip on this, Rob? It's quick, but here it. Go for it. Please. Fouchy might be swimming in the same pool. One of his top guys was indicted for a COVID cover-up. Now the DOJ is eyeing a new criminal case against Anthony, even though Autopenn gave him a pardon. Hope you got your floaties, Doc. And this just in, a COVID-19 whistleblower, an active CIA employee, will be testifying tomorrow. So they're already thinking about different ways of getting him. If they do or not, that James Comey clip is so beautiful and so annoying for so many people at the right. And you think when he was saying that he was thinking, he was thinking about Fauci?
Starting point is 01:19:24 And by the way, that girl that asked the question, who do you think he's talking about? She has to know. No, who do you think Comey was talking about in that interview when he says, yeah, I didn't accept it because I'm not guilty? So who was the first person he was trying to make a claim that's not guilty himself? Of course. But who else is he talking about? He's talking about Hunter, because remember he injected.
Starting point is 01:19:43 himself quite about, I think you think about a lot of people. But I think one of them he's thinking about it's got to be Hunter. That was because you listened to all the leaks and everything to come out. They, even the people around Biden were like, my gosh, you know, this is such a, you know, here we go again, because Hunter wasn't political. They couldn't do anything with him. He wasn't, he wasn't FDA. He wasn't anything.
Starting point is 01:20:06 He was this pain in the neck thing that kept generating headlines and discussed. And so I think he was thinking about people like that saying, you want all this time selling, oh, I was just a consultant for energy company. Then you took the pardon. I think there's some coding coming there because I don't think Comey was 100% Biden. He was 100% Comey. Who do you think, Pat? Who do you think he was talking about? Because, I mean, the whole family was pardoned for all their dealings.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I think it's subtle reminders to say, watch who Trump's going to pardon. Because remember, Trump said on 250 year anniversary he's going to pardon $2.50 year anniversary, he's going to pardon. 250 people. Yeah. Do you remember when he said this? Rob, can you pull this up? I think the president, didn't he say that? I thought he said that.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Maybe he didn't say that. The president allegedly said, yeah, Trump says, explores 250 pardons on America's 250-year birthday. So why is Comey saying it now? So to me, I think Comey was saying that to get ahead of the fact that the president's going to pardon 250 people, and the reporter asked the question Comey was not expecting. And that's when Comey immediately's like, I don't know about that. All I can tell you is the fact that in 9,
Starting point is 01:21:12 This is why they did the pardon that, you know, Gerald Ford would go around in his wallet because he knew that Nixon was guilty. So he's comparing Nixon to who? To Trump. And then the reporter asked the right question, even though she didn't want to ask the question. You know she didn't want to ask the question. You know she didn't want to ask the question. Well, how about the other people? And then it's like, oh, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:21:31 But I know about Trump. So I think that's kind of where he's going. So if they end up finding, if the presidents, if they end up finding a way to go and investigate what happened with Fauci, I cannot tell you how much the trust in the DOJ and the FBI is going to go up for finally doing their job. If you want to increase credibility and people trusting the DOJ and the FBI again, go tell us what happened during COVID. Tom. So I think what's remarkable about and all this, first of all, people that were so terribly persecuted, the doctor we had on, I just blanked on him real quick. Robert Malone.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Malone. Yep, Robert Malone. Yeah, go ahead. And people like Mary Talley, Mary Talley Bowden, who is in Houston, and she just wrote a book, Dangerous Misinformation. She was down there in Texas in a red state getting absolutely pilloried, you know, for her position. So these people are able to come back in the light of day and say, I was right, first of all. Second of all, we now, everyone knows it started in the Wuhan lab. It leaked out from there, whether it was intentional or not, is Chapman.
Starting point is 01:22:40 We know that all the data was manipulated now. Now we know that. And we know that that Fauci actually funded and at least knew memorandums with his name on him about gain of function research. So now we know all that. And then guess what? The thing that really bugs me right now is with all of that, the mainstream media is seeing this as an us versus them. And they don't want to give anybody the W. And so the mainstream media is playing the game.
Starting point is 01:23:10 of, well, if we knew then what we know now. It's like, no, you don't get to do that. You don't get to do that because at the time there was ample information that was out there. They could have raised the seeds of doubt. Did you have perfect information? No, but you didn't have perfect information, and you were slaughtering people and impugning their careers, and people were getting, you know, discharged from the military, serving honorably and getting no pensions, all of this stuff
Starting point is 01:23:39 happened. You had enough information to stop that from happening while saying, hey, we don't know everything but we don't think service people should be dishonorably discharged and lose their pension over this for crying out loud. There was more than enough to know that. And so right now I see this. I
Starting point is 01:23:55 hope for the sake of history that they find a way to persecute the guilty here. I hope they find a way to do that, Pat. That's my opinion because the news media is just sitting there, oh, if we knew then, what we knew now, I think is really disingenuous, and now we've seen all the things I just mentioned that turned out to be correct. And it drives me crazy,
Starting point is 01:24:18 Tom, when you have people like Josh Hawley and all, then they come out of these hearings that the CIA whistleblower comes out, it's all credible, all checks out, and they're like, yeah, man, he did this and he did that. Okay, now what? Now what? Besides the pardon, they have to find the way, Tom, because think about it, his two crimes, fraudulent concealment, he lied, he knew, he was lying from the beginning and he hindered the discovery of where this came from. He testified to Congress about it that he did not participate in. He did not know and he did not fund gain of function research. And now we know
Starting point is 01:24:49 that the only thing that we're not 100% sure of is did he know. But he funded it and his name is on memorandum. So let's say two out of three. You were involved in gain of function research. Tom, for sure, and lied the entire time. And then Tom, you know what the biggest one is? Mass, negligent homicide. How many people? people died because you lied. You're a liar. And then you promoted knowingly pushed unsaved vaccines on people and was in the president's ear like, hey, listen, we could do this, we could do a lesson here. Come on, you'll look good. And of course the president's going to listen
Starting point is 01:25:21 to him. Of course you want to watch. The subsequent fallout was criminally prosecutable. Yes. It hasn't been. And Tom, we, and all, oh my God, the died suddenly, the people falling and what they're discovering in Americans about people around the world, it's disgusting. And Pat, can you imagine walking around and you know that your family, you've lost family members because of the lies and the decisions that this one man made? Again, I do think this is all progress on what's happening. And Comey is the president, the assistant to the president needs to show that to the president and say, Mr. President, did you see this video? And the president will come and comment about it and say, hey, he said this.
Starting point is 01:26:05 If he's saying this, well, what are he saying with this? Because it is a form of taking a shot at the president. President, his team's going to bring this information to him. Adam, do you have any thoughts on it? Yeah, I'll just be real quick. I'm with Vinny on this, especially on why you're passionate about it. I'll explain why. Because the one word that we go back to is accountability.
Starting point is 01:26:22 And when there's no accountability and you're not held responsible for your actions, if you did something wrong, then there's a collapse of trust. We know how important trust is. trust as a currency. And if you did something wrong and there's no consequences to your actions and there's no justice and there's perceived or actual abuse of power and you get away with doing something wrong, what's going to happen is this, people are going to get really freaking frustrated like you are. I am. And I understand your frustration. And again, I'm not saying that he did or didn't do anything wrong either one of them. He's a felony to lie in Congress and he lied. I'm with you. I'm
Starting point is 01:27:00 just saying in general, why some, why people, why you, why us are upset is for that lack of accountability. When you think someone did something wrong and it's so blatant and out in the open and you're like, are you kidding me? You're just going to drive you crazy. It drives you crazy. And I understand that. I empathize with you on that. All right, let me get to the next story. Next story I want to get to has to do with a movie that's coming out called Odyssey. I don't if you guys been seeing this or not. So this movie Odyssey, okay, that's coming out. And if you go to the cast, the criticism that he got, it even got the attention of Elon Musk that's like, what the hell of these guys doing? Go a little bit lower, Rob to the cast to see who's in it.
Starting point is 01:27:38 How stacked this is. Matt Damon, Tom Holland, Ann Hathaway, Robert Pattinson, Lupita Nongo, okay, Zendaya, Charlize Theron, John Bernthal, the great John Thorne, and then he have Elliot Page, right? And Rob, the critic, and by the way, John Leguizamo, I mean, it's kind of like it's loaded with the people that are in this flick, loaded. And biggest criticism came. What is this story really all about? Tom, what's the Odyssey about? The movie?
Starting point is 01:28:13 What they made it about? No, no. What is the original story of the audio? It's what area of the world? It's about the emergence in Greece. Okay. Can you imagine you make a movie about the emergence of Greece and not a single person you cast as Greek?
Starting point is 01:28:27 But wait a minute, what are we talking about here? So what's more important on who to cast? Then on top of that, Rob, who is allegedly going to be playing? Can you go to it? Who is playing? Is that the Elliott Page one? Helen, oh, there's rumors that she's going to play. Well, he, she, whatever, whatever's happening in her, his life is going to play Achilles.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Elliot Page is going to play Achilles. Elliot Page, there's rumors that she, he, is going to play Achilles. Who played Achilles? in Troy? Brad Pitt. How did Achilles look? How did Brad Pitt look
Starting point is 01:29:01 in Troy? Like a freaking absolute warrior. Can you put that up? Question their sexuality, Patrick. That's right.
Starting point is 01:29:06 I converted to that guy. One year after that movie. Look at this. That's Brad Pitt. Does he look like somebody you would depict as being Troy? Being Achilles?
Starting point is 01:29:15 Yes. Okay. Now can you go to to the other fellow or girl or, you know, whatever's that. Liquid, what did it call it?
Starting point is 01:29:22 All this stuff. So this is who's supposed to play. That's who's supposed to play. She's got. He's got great apps. Yeah. So, and then Elon Musk commented on this, Rob. What did Elon must say about this in this movie?
Starting point is 01:29:34 What was Elon's comments on the bottom? Look at this. Why is Christopher Nolan, like many other directors, so keen to race swap white characters, quotas and rewards, right? And if you look at the right there, 2024, yes, starting with the 96 Academy Awards, there's a mandatory diversity requirement
Starting point is 01:29:49 for films to be eligible for Best Picture category. Films must meet two of four new representation and inclusion standards covering on-screen representation, creative leadership industry, actress or audience development. Elon Musk on the bottom, he wants awards. He wants the awards, and that's it. So when you see this, where do you go with this, Adam? Look, you know, I'm the least movie guy.
Starting point is 01:30:09 It's funny that you're coming to me now, but this whole revisionist history of The Little Mermaid's Now Black and Snow White, as Tom Lacks is say, is now, next thing you know, they're going to cast MLK and Matt Damon's going to be playing MLK. This revisionist history, of actual white people, listen, you want to move the needle a little bit. You want to be controversial.
Starting point is 01:30:35 You want to shake things up. That's cool. But when you're as, what did Elon Musk say? What did you say about white people? Was the term he used exactly? Race swapping. Race swapping. It just becomes like at some point, and look, I'm not the guy that's going to go crazy by movies.
Starting point is 01:30:51 At some point, we're like, okay. So all the Greek people. Can you ask the question? Brad Pitt. Anybody go watch this movie? Just ask, will you go watch the movie? Let's see what the audience is going to say. I think 10 or 20% will go watch the movie.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Well, I think the cast is ridiculous, and much like anything, you want to do something. Like, if you're, let, by the way, find out what other movies, Chris and Nolan has done. No, no, no, no. No one is a legend. Don't even. No one is loaded.
Starting point is 01:31:20 You're coming after me because I want to find out the movies. No, no, no, no, he is. He's done some incredible movies. But he's shifting with. the Times. He's basically saying, oh, I need a trans person to, in order to win an award, let's get a trans person. I think what people are upset about is that you're replacing freaking Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt with this dude. I was right. Did you see the clip of the...
Starting point is 01:31:42 88% said they'll go watch the movie. Really? 12% said no. And in the comment section, a bunch of people said, hell not. Hell no. Didn't you say it would be flipped a little bit? 88% said they will not go watch the movie. By the way, is this some AI of Ellen Page being Brad Pitt here. Yeah, that's what we're. Is this AI? This is AI.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Is there a video? Let me see it. How bad is it inappropriate? No, I mean, she's gonna get slaughtered right now. Can we even play this? If it's AI, I think we're up. Okay. Well, this guy's not a yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:14 I remember this scene. I remember this scene. He comes running at him. Come on out, you got this. She's, yeah. He goes right past his head, foo foof. Yeah. Oh, man, there it is.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Directed by Michael. bank. But you remember that scene in the movie with Brad Pitt? He broke his, you know, do you know a fun fact? In that scene where Brad Pitt jumps and stabs that guy in the neck, he breaks his ankle and they have to stop shooting for months. Brad Pitt broke his ankle. Google, you're telling me that he tore his Achilles. Are you kidding me? Actually breaks his ankle in that scene. And Rob, yeah, Rob, I think that's why people are upset is because you're going to. Yeah, while filming Brad Pitt injured his Achilles tendon. I'm sorry. Not his ankle, his Achilles tendon. So.
Starting point is 01:32:56 That's when life imitates art or art. Are you going to go see this movie? You're going to see this movie, Ben? I'll watch it when it comes on Netflix or something. You're going to walk out when Ellen Page comes up to me. But here's my thing. He's getting hammered because he casted Lupida Njango as Helen of Troy. Okay?
Starting point is 01:33:13 And what they're saying is he wants to, like, Christopher Nolan is one of my favorites. He's in the top five of all time. But they're bringing it up and I'm happy you brought up that tweet, Pat, the Academy's diversity requirements. For Best Picture, you have to have, you know, standards of, you know, certain races, gender, sexuality, disability, underrepresented groups. It's like, leave it historically alone, okay? And let's just be clear.
Starting point is 01:33:36 I think Lepida Pat, it's like a model, she's a beautiful human being, okay? She's talented. She's a great actress, okay? The issue is accuracy. If Hollywood casted Ryan Gosling as Shaka Zulu, they would burn down the studio before the trailer even aired. But when it happens to Greek and European figures, suddenly the accuracy becomes problematic.
Starting point is 01:34:00 And can we show, Pat, Sonny Hosten, which, from the view, who, by the way, just a little backstory, you guys remember, she found out last year that she is a descendant of slave owners. Let me just remind everybody that. Look at how she's defending by casting Lupita, and she brings up Black Athena, a book, and says that Helena Troy could have been Black.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Go ahead, Rob. This idea was also explored in a book called Black Athena. I think people should read it, which argues that classical Greek culture is heavily indebted to Afro-Asiatic and near-eastern roots. I actually taught Greek mythology to eighth graders.
Starting point is 01:34:37 And so I covered this. So people that are saying that Helen of Troy could not possibly be played by a black woman don't know history. But by the way, those eighth graders that she taught are probably adults now and they're walking around thinking
Starting point is 01:34:52 Medusa was a Puerto Rican and worked at a nail salon in the Bronx. They're gone. And she's here on the view, still spewing mythology. And here's the thing. So I want to say something with Christopher Nolan. Christopher Nolan. Pat and I, one of the most favorite movies that we've seen. We love historical that we've done.
Starting point is 01:35:12 But 10 years ago, we saw Dunkirk. And Dunkirk, Christopher Nolan, cast people that look like British people, people that look like Germans, people that. people that look like the French. Dunkirk was brilliantly done. The storylines that were threaded through it. It was magnificent. 2017.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Now here we are, 2006, almost 2027, and look what he had to do. He willingly did it. And Christopher, if you're listening, come on, man. You just went with the program that to be in line to get Academy Awards, you had to check these boxes.
Starting point is 01:35:48 And so that's what you did to make your movie. And by the way, that may have been, what the studio or the distributor said, hey, make sure you do these things because we want to get the Academy Award and we want to get this too. So, Chris, the movie's got to be like this. So unless he's a private billionaire funding it all on his own, this is what it is. But what kills me is the fact that look at those two things. Dunker, our historical book, and this is about Odyssey, about the guy goes on the 10-year journey, the emergence of Greek after the Trojan War, and his wife and the kid have to fight off things?
Starting point is 01:36:22 I thought out of all the stories. This is the one that was going to piss Tom off. Piss Tom off. I would have never guessed it. Because, you know, they were racing white people. They were racing white men. That's not it. If you're going to make historical thematic. This is serious stuff, Tom.
Starting point is 01:36:35 I mean, if Ellen Page plays Tom Ellsworth in the movie, we're going to have a major problem. And if you think about it, Pat, Helen of Troy was a Greek figure from where, Tom? Sparta. Troy. The Sparta, described by Greek writers as the idea of Greek beauty. And by the way, for Sonny Hossin, ancient, she's a freaking Greek mythology major, ancient Greek art and literature consistently portrayed noble Greek women with fair skin,
Starting point is 01:37:02 Mediterranean European features, and often lighter hair. Okay, I taught eighth graders. Stop. Well, you said all these things. Let's move on to a fun fact story, which ended up bad. This is one of the most interesting things in the history of movies for me. You know the movie, Gladiator? One of my favorites.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Okay, you know the guy Oliver Reed who played Proximo? I love you. You know who he's. One of the best. Do you know what happened to him? His mentor. Do you know what happened to him? No.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Do you know the story? Seriously, you guys don't know what happened to him? It's such an interesting. So Oliver Reed won the greatest actors of all time plays Proximo in Gladiator. Go to the picture of him playing the proximo. Great actor. While they were shooting the movie, the movie is not done yet.
Starting point is 01:37:44 He goes to a local pub. He competes with these Brits to see who can drink more. He ends up. beating them, but dies trying to be done. No way. He died. Like alcohol poisoning? You don't know this?
Starting point is 01:37:55 No, alcohol poisoning? The guy drank so much, ends up having a heart attack, and he dies. And the movie that was being made, this was pre all the scenes being shot, the producer had to go back, Ridley Scott, the director had to go back and use CGI to have the movie be done, the story of Oliver Reed. By the way, how phenomenal of a job did he do in this movie? I want everybody out there that's go on YouTube and find the scene when he's talking to Russell Crow and he's like he's like when you get the crowd He's like their screams. He's like it's like a storm. He is such a phenomenal actor when your freedom
Starting point is 01:38:32 Marcus Aurelius touch me. Oh You knew Marcus Aurelius he goes no I didn't say that Yeah, I said he touched me on the shoulder once look at what he drank guys knew me he challenged a group of sailors Downed eight pints of beer 12 shots of rum half of bottle of whiskey and shots of cognate. That's like Tom's Friday night. But listen, shortly after he collapsed. I don't drink cognate. Everything else is acting.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Pretty interesting. Plus the bonnet. Listen, he allegedly had a drinking issues his entire life, but this happened in Malta. Wow. And if there was one guy that you, and by the way, what's interesting, no one talked about it publicly. It's like, you didn't know this story.
Starting point is 01:39:10 How many times have you seen Gladiator? A hundred times. Yeah. So, so, you're opening scenes. Yeah, I think. Well, number one, this is tragic, and I mean, it's been such a long time. I think we can make an inappropriate joke. He tried to win the crowd. He lost his freedom. I mean, you're not doing that unless you're trying to look cool. I mean, and that's why you're not a comedian also, okay? And we're all amateur comedians. You, all of us on this thing, there's only one person here that's a
Starting point is 01:39:39 comedian that gets paid for him. Tom Ellsworth. And that's Vincent O'Shaun, okay? The rest of us are That wasn't supposed to be. That wasn't supposed to be funny. Rob is a funny? Listen. No pants. There's in the house, in the house, when you become a father and you have kids and you tell jokes, there's not a worse crowd than your kids.
Starting point is 01:39:59 If you can make your kids laugh, you're winning. Tom knows how to make my kids laugh. When Tom tells jokes, his daughters are like dad. I've heard that 1,700 times. Let's go to next story. Let's go to next story. Then there's such thing as I'm trying to say, do I go into this or not?
Starting point is 01:40:15 Let's go into this next. Let's talk about and it's like everybody's taking shots at Daily Wire. It's like every other day it's a new story in time. You circle that you wanted to talk about this. And Vinny, I know you got a lot of thoughts on this. And Adam, you too. Why Ben Shapiro's media empire is collapsing. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:32 So now, to be fair, this is from who, Rob. This is from New York. New York Magazine. It's fair to say that they are not fans of Ben Wier. Ben Wier. Liberal Fins Shapiro and the Daily Wire. So let's read what's in this year and what they're talking about.
Starting point is 01:40:47 There was a time not long ago that Ben Shapiro could reasonably call himself the king of all conservative media. Shapiro himself was ubiquitous, a right-wing star who had risen to fame before Donald Trump and seamlessly adopted the MAGA takeover Republicans. He was a digital battering ram against the Democrats
Starting point is 01:41:04 on the progressive left. That's all over. The Daily Wires instituting significant layoffs. It's website. There are DailyWire YouTube videos now that are fewer, few days online and have less than 10,000 views, a catastrophically small number for a channel with more than 3 million subscribers. If a variety of poor business decisions can be blamed in part for Daily Wire's downfall, ill-fatted investment in feature films, an epic fantasy series, a peculiar merchandise, the greater stories, the collapse of Shapiro's constituency. The constituency among the young silhouette. Among the young American consumers who once fueled the daily wire.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Listen, my English is getting better daily. Shapiro, who's an orthodox Jew, is fiercely pro-ish-Rill. Ben Shapiro's Jewish? Yes, yeah. Stop it. His support. No idea. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:58 So here's what they're saying about daily wire. And by the way, you know, sometimes when you are the best at what you do and then you fall, they love attacking you. And it's just something that comes with the territory. We all remember all the videos. Every video would go how. This is how the titles of Ben Shapiro's videos were. You ready? Ben Shapiro destroys.
Starting point is 01:42:18 Yes. If you type in Ben Shapiro destroys on YouTube, how many videos will you see? God knows how many videos are going to say, Ben Shapiro destroys. Ben Shapiro destroys. So, Tom, is there a complete, I have one thought that I want to share with this. But what are your thoughts on what's happening with these guys? And can they recover? Well, first of all, New York Magazine needs to write about something.
Starting point is 01:42:38 and to go after a conservative, that's at the top of the list at their editorial meeting when they hand out their assignments and what people are going to do. So you don't get surprised by this, that there's conservative media, if those two words are connected you in some way, New York Magazine and the liberal fish wrap that it is are going to come after you. Okay, great. Well, what's going on here is they're tempting to admit what I got a little triggered in the story was in the midst of this. you know, recycle of, yeah, okay, you know, Daily Wires had allegedly some subscriber issues and are laying off some people. That's been well covered. And then in the middle of it, they say, oh, this could be bad news for conservative media.
Starting point is 01:43:21 They are trying to get themselves all up in a cheering mode, Pat, to say, could this be a sign that we've jumped the shark, you know, the old statement about ratings on TV and media referring to when, the ancient comedy series Happy Days where Fonzie jumps the shark, you know, and that the ratings moved and shifted after that. So they are actively hoping that this is a jump the shark moment for conservative media and that the other crowd of, quote, anti-Semitic groipers led by Fuentes are seemingly in ascendance. And Candice Owen, who worked once with Shapiro, now both to YouTube channel larger than his, they're actively hoping that we're all self-destructing.
Starting point is 01:44:13 But what they're missing, what they're missing is that liberals don't have a product worth buying and that conservatives that are out here processing things, people are watching. And whether you're on one side or the other, and I don't deny, and it's out there to see that there are two sides in conservative media. There is the pro-Israel ones, and those are ones a hard anti-Israel. And then there's people in the middle like us that are trying to process and trying to get people to think about things in these norms. So that's what got me on this story, Pat, about New York Magazine is I think what the cheering that you see in it is, is this a tipping point for all conservative media? And the answer is, no, it's not.
Starting point is 01:44:57 And you know what? You want to go look at the number of shows are conservative, where they're ranked and where you're ranked? You know, come on. This isn't what's happening. Vinny. Listen, I used to be a huge fan of Ben Shapiro, if you guys recall, when he was sitting in front of Pierce Morgan, and it was the, I forgot which school's shooting. And he brings out, you know, he goes, I think you're standing on the dead graves of the children. And he put the freaking constitution.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Like, those were moments. And Pierce thought looked like he was going to have a heart attack. But that was the old Ben, Pat, debating, going in front of, like, he was doing what Charlie was doing. You know, facts don't care about your feelings. Everybody that uses that quote today, it's because of Ben. Ben Shapiro was a guy. He was there. He was fire. He was doing it. And then, you know, October 7 happens.
Starting point is 01:45:40 And let's just be honest with each other. This shit, it was just, if you don't agree with Israel and my thoughts, then guess what? You're an idiot. And you're dumb. And people don't like to be lectured to. Mind you, this is his audience. This is his audience. The subscribers are dropping like crazy, social media, everything.
Starting point is 01:45:58 And then you fire one of your biggest stars because she disagrees with your point. And, by you, facts don't care about your feeling. and debate, and then you fire her. Like publicly, and it's ugly. And then Brett Cooper, your number two, she leaves, and she does her own thing. And then you have people inside, you know, producers trying to create stuff, and I get that. And, you know, you have Matt Walsh, and you have Michael Nolz do their thing, and, you know, success with the documentaries and stuff.
Starting point is 01:46:24 But, you know, people don't like that. People don't like, like, Americans don't like to be lectured to. And then when you have your opinion or you don't agree, they're stupid. You're dumb. You don't know what you're talking about. unattractive, okay? And can I just say one last thing back? You can always, we talk about this how many times recreating yourself. We did the survey. There's certain points that I already know and I'm already working on it to be more clear or to do this or to do that. You have to recreate yourself.
Starting point is 01:46:51 Go back to being the old Ben. That's what people want. People like that. Maybe even Pat, I trim my eyebrows because I'm middle eastern, trim them up. Do like a sexy thing. It's because the eyebrow. I'm telling you right now. If he does like a sexy, it's his eyebrows. If his eyebrows get trimmed and I know a guy that could edge him up. I'm just saying. It's not a, not, you're not lying. I mean, they're very bushy. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Yeah. There was some ridiculous eyebrow people in Glendell. Oh my God, I know. I saw one guy, I can refer him to. There's like a gay guy named Bijan who was great with eyebrows. Like we, there are referrals. Go ahead, Adam. Your thoughts.
Starting point is 01:47:29 Well, Ben's had those eyebrows. Bejan, send a DM to him. Ben Shapiro. look as since October 7th and since Ben defended Israel and his ratings
Starting point is 01:47:46 and his favorability have plummeted there's a direct correlation between people that defend Israel and their views straight up there's also a direct correlation with people that are anti-Israel and the more they talk about Israel their views go up i.e. Tucker i.e. Candice
Starting point is 01:48:01 Now if you ever watch Ben's show Ben has not changed at all. You talk about reinventing yourself. Ben hasn't shifted one belief, one ideology. Everything he's saying today is everything that he stood for before. But I do have an idea for Ben. I believe the Tucker ship has sailed. I don't think Tucker in a million years would sit down with Ben.
Starting point is 01:48:25 I think Ben would run circles around Tucker. I think he looks at Candace as almost like a joke at this point. but here's my idea for Ben. Debate Nick Fuentes. Because Nick's been trying to knock down your door, Nick's career has basically ascended because of you. You sort of alluded to this recently. I think he owes it to himself.
Starting point is 01:48:48 I think he owes it to the audience to give this kid that as obnoxious as you think the kid is, he's talented guy. Stephen Crowder, who have immense respect for us, sat down with Nick Fuentes twice. I've sat down with Nick Fuentes. you've sat down with Nick Fuentes. Now, if Ben doesn't want to do it,
Starting point is 01:49:06 Nick debate a guy named Shabbas Castlebaum. Okay? Because they say that he's the new Ben Shapiro and he's super talented. It seems to me, Ben, for whatever reason, is avoiding Nick. Honestly, it's probably because he thinks it's beneath him. And he thinks that he's been punching down, and I understand that.
Starting point is 01:49:24 You think that? But Nick is also avoiding. Rob is like trying to find how to suppose Shabas Kessel. I'm just laughing at Rob. B-A-U-M, B-A-A-U-S-s. By the way, super talented guy. But I also think Nick is avoiding Shabbas Castlebaum. So there's a lot of people avoiding people.
Starting point is 01:49:42 I think, you know, they say that disinfected is the greatest sunlight, basically get the debates out in the open. Right now, shifting gears from, I'll just address Daily Wire. I think none of them have changed at all. Michael Noah's, Matt Walsh, God, I don't know what's going on with Jordan Peterson. That whole crew, they stand for exactly. what they stood for and they have not followed the clicks and the views by going anti-Israel. By the way, Matt Walsh, I think he's Catholic.
Starting point is 01:50:08 No, sorry, Michael Knowles is Catholic. They have fierce debates amongst each other. So to act like there are some sort of like unilateral one-size-fits-all type organization would be far from the truth. But I do think, you know, you say Ben needs to reinvent himself. I don't think someone like Ben reinvents himself. He is who he is. You know, you said that he's not that funny.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Stop trying to be funny. I get it. I think he's the smartest guy in the room. and that's who he is, own it. Like if you try to tell me Tom, whose numbers and stats, try to be the coolest guy in the room and the most entertaining, that probably won't be the case, although we have an audience that thinks that.
Starting point is 01:50:42 Now, last point, the reality is Ben is who he is. The market, the media landscape has changed. It is what it is. But do you think Ben's going to stop being a constitutional conservative? No. Do you think he's going to stop defending Israel's right to exist? No. You think he's going to basically whore out for the clicks and the views like Candace and Tucker and Megan Kelly up?
Starting point is 01:51:06 He's just not going to do that. And he said that day one when he got into the, did a speech at Turning Point. Ben is who he is. But I also encourage him if he's going to change and evolve, go ahead and debate the person that's basically the head of the snake. Now, this Groyper thing, I think, look, I've hung out with Nick. I shut basketball with Nick. I disagree with his entire premise. but the kid is talented.
Starting point is 01:51:30 I'll give him that. I watch Nick. I text Nick here and there. But I think that's something needs to be addressed. Now, I will say the Groyper movement is going absolutely nowhere because Nick's fighting with Candice
Starting point is 01:51:44 and Candice is fighting with Nick. Nick's fighting with Dan Bolzerian. Dan Bolzarian is apparently 12% Jewish, so that excommunicates him for everything. He's trying to run against Andy Fine. You can't build a coalition on hate. And that's just the reality of it. You can be talented.
Starting point is 01:51:58 you could be opinionated, you can be an amazing personality, but that Groyper movement that Ben Shapiro does not want to basically ingest, is a, it's all they do is destroy. They can't build up. But I want to ask, from everything that you just said, I want to ask the businessman CEO, everything he's saying, he's not going to change, he's not going to change. As the CEO, you daily wire, what's going to happen?
Starting point is 01:52:23 If you don't, what's going to happen to daily wire? With the attitude of, He is what he is. He's going to do what he's going to do. The guys that gave the money to them. They're oil folks. I think there are $2.8, $2.9 billion out of folks that invest in DailyWire. Qatar?
Starting point is 01:52:38 Rob, if you want to know, no, daily wire, their oil. I want to say fracking. I don't know what business they're in. Oil barren? I want to say, yeah, that's the brothers that put money into it. What is their background? Harris and Dan Wilkes. Yeah, Texas.
Starting point is 01:52:51 Ferris and Dan Wilkes. These are the guys that funded Daily Wire. Okay, when you hear about the story, it's them. And, yeah, fracking business, I was right. So they're in the fracking business. And so can you pull up their network product product? What is Ferris and Dan? I think they also did Prager, I see it here.
Starting point is 01:53:05 And I think they also bought Gibson guitar. Yeah, that's funny, Gibson guitar. We're familiar with that. So, yeah, $2.4 billion. Okay. So $3.5 billion. Yeah, so these are money people that have funded it. So here's how it works.
Starting point is 01:53:18 When you have money that you deploy, Vinny, you put money in a couple different ways. you either deploy because of what you believe in, meaning I'm willing to put all the money to support any conservative causes and media companies because we need that message to grow. Perfect, no problem. So when your intention is only that, you're not necessarily looking at making money. You're looking at cause-driven.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Let's protect the Jewish agenda. Let's protect the Christian. And I think these guys are Jews for Jesus, if I'm not mistaken. I don't think they're even Jewish. I think they're Jews for Jesus. Can you go pull up? their Wikipedia. Again, everything I'm saying in this part could be wrong. I haven't looked at this for a couple years. Some of the Bible, some of the Jewishizing, no Testament, you know,
Starting point is 01:54:02 Jesus Messiah. Do they believe in Christ? No, there it is right there. Yeah, they are not officially affiliated with the organization Jews for Jesus, but the pastor of the Assembly of Yahweh, Seventh-day is a congregation that adheres to Judaizing form of Christianity. Okay, so it's like Jews for Jesus. So that's kind of where they're, so they're putting the money. Now, let's flip. regardless if even if it's for values and principles, if you put money into a business and you invest and you're not getting a rate of return, nobody runs a charity.
Starting point is 01:54:33 So then at the end of the day, you have to find a way to recreate the brand and the business. This isn't the first time. Best Buy was going through issues. They brought a new guy and he fixed it. Best Buy people were no longer coming in. The Best Buy CEO is like, look, instead of trying to do it the old way,
Starting point is 01:54:49 let's partner with Apple, Samsung, and give them a booth in a section. So Apple's pushing people to come to our store. Best Buy grew at a certain period when the SMP 500 grew by 111%. I think they grew by 300 plus percent. And that's Best Buy. Wow. Because Kmart didn't make it. Some of these guys didn't make it.
Starting point is 01:55:05 So they need to go make a really good hire of a CO to see what direction to go with this. And then a part of the onus has got to be on him on what he wants to do. And by the way, you could say the following. Here's a thing. I'm not changing my values and principles. What do you think will take for somebody to change my values and principles? I believe in in capitalism.
Starting point is 01:55:26 It's not going to happen. Okay. It's not going to happen. But guess what? Can somebody give me feedback on my approach? Can somebody give me feedback on strategy? Can somebody come in? Yes, 100%.
Starting point is 01:55:36 So I'm not in the part where I'm at, and I'll wrap it up with the last story. If we got time to do to Drake, let me see what my next meeting is. If Mattel's already texted me or not. You know, I'm more on the part about, you know, the market is going to clear itself out. You went back 10 years ago, entrepreneurial content. There were people that were the faces of entrepreneurship. They disappeared.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Poof, they're gone. And they're no longer around. Whoever is the biggest noise today in 10 years, they're going to disappear. And it's only going to be 10 to 20% of them. Who is the 10 to 20%? Do you have no idea? It's very hard to stay in the arena. You know, an article came out saying that YouTube today,
Starting point is 01:56:19 interesting thing about algorithms with YouTube, Mr. B's viewership, they said, has dropped 50%. Why has it dropped 50%. He used to get these videos, 900 million views, 500 million views, 400 million views. Now it's 60 to 120 million views. Now somebody said, well, listen, give me a 60 to 120 million views. It doesn't mean it's being impacted. What did YouTube do?
Starting point is 01:56:39 YouTube on the back end controls what? Controls. Go look at any of the top 50 podcasts that we follow. and go to their YouTube channel, you'll notice, why is this guy down to 600,000 views, 200,000 views, 800,000, he used to get 4.8 million views, 3. Why is that guy that used to do 600,000 views down to 300,000 views, 150,000 views? What you will notice is the following one.
Starting point is 01:57:03 Rogan is number one podcast in 94 countries on Spotify. But on YouTube, it's who? Someone else, might as touch. But why is that? Why is YouTube putting this? Because YouTube came out and said, they used to favor because they control recommendations
Starting point is 01:57:20 the algorithms of YouTube they control recommendations like do you remember during COVID during COVID they're like if you use the word there was certain word you used on the title it would just drop off okay whatever the words were during COVID there was like 50 words that didn't like if you used it
Starting point is 01:57:35 it would automatically drop off so don't use the word all right so people didn't use the word YouTube in insurance I'll never forget this in insurance because in the insurance industry we used to there used to be this company called Aviva. Rob, can you pull up Aviva? Aviva ended up being bought by something.
Starting point is 01:57:51 I don't know what the company's new name is, but it used to be called Aviva insurance. Go to images, Rob. Go to images. Aviva, yeah. Oh, I remember these things. Yeah, so but this used to be a different logo. Can you tap in Aviva's old logo?
Starting point is 01:58:03 Old logo. Old logo was a different color. Anyways, so Aviva, one year they're selling index annuities. Let me put the word allegedly in there because I wasn't on the inside. they all of a sudden get $2 billion of annuities that comes in. And every time you sell annuities, you lose money because you have to pay up 8 to 12% in commissions.
Starting point is 01:58:28 So if I take a million dollars of new annuity money, I'm paying $120,000 to agents. So how much money have I made getting to new money? Nothing. So one year, they get $2 billion of indexed annuities. If you get $2 billion of index annuities, how much are you having to pay commissioners? up front. What's 12% of $2 billion? $2 billion. $240 million of commissions you have to pay.
Starting point is 01:58:50 So if your bank account is at, say, half a billion dollars of money you've raised, you sell $2 billion of annuities, you just depleted half your money. You're not going to make your money on annuities for seven to 10 years. So then all of a sudden everybody's like, wait a minute, why is Aviva no longer accepting the amount of annuities that they did? Why are they no longer accepting the amount of IULs as they did? Because every time they sold index annuities or index universal life, they were losing money. It takes seven to 10 years to make money. Who controls the knob? Aviva controlled the knob. Guess who controls the knob on YouTube viewership right now? YouTube does. You know what YouTube did? YouTube controlled
Starting point is 01:59:27 the knob and it was long form suggestion and YouTube went like this and said short form. We don't want any more long form recommendation. Guess what YouTube announced last year. Going back to long form. YouTube last year announced as of July 15th, if it's a faceless, you YouTube channel, we're no longer paying you ads. What do you mean? So whoever controls the knob controls the viewership. So there is an element of the media changing on what they're favoring now. It's purely YouTube algorithm and Chris, watch this.
Starting point is 01:59:59 Mid-2020s, they just made the announcement. YouTube's algorithm is increasingly favoring smaller emerging channels by prioritizing high retention content over subscriber count. So what is YouTube doing that? they want more new people. Because imagine YouTube sitting in a meeting and they're saying, man, we're not having as many new content creators.
Starting point is 02:00:18 I don't know if this makes sense. Like if you go look at last week, Instagram did a massive purge of followership. Rob, can you go to Instagram purge last week? I want to say Kylie General lost 14 million people on followership in a single day. Can you type in purge? What happened last week?
Starting point is 02:00:35 Brands of lost millions. Look at this, Vinny. Welcome to the greatest bot purge of 2026. Go a little bit lower May 8th. exactly a week ago. Can you go to the names of people that lost, the amount of people they lost, because they're right there.
Starting point is 02:00:47 Okay, so Kim Kardashian, Kylie Jenner, what you sort of account? Losing 15.2 million. Kim Cardi-Criano Ronaldo lost 15 million followers in one day. Kardashian lost 9.19. Kylie General lost 7.12. Taylor's footballer 7.2.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Nike alone lost 5.9 million followers in one day, Perge, right? So if you look at somebody whose followership gets to a point and it doesn't change anymore, It's because you found your audience that's interested in you. They're no longer like, now you have to either make a change or a shift or get a new audience to get the new audience.
Starting point is 02:01:20 So YouTube hit a mark where they're like, we already have so many people that are content creators. We're everywhere in the world. What do we do? Then they said, stop recommending the big popular podcast. Start recommending the smaller podcast. Why do you want to recommend a smaller podcast? Why do you want to recommend a small?
Starting point is 02:01:36 In demand, you want young people to believe in themselves? Because you don't think the bigger podcasts are going to stop. except you're going to inspire the smaller podcast to climb up. Like, you know how you'll come and he said, I don't know what's going on, but I think YouTube's on my side right now. I'll say, hey, don't mess with that. Yeah. Because whenever the algorithms are on noise, so this is the part that you have to pivot.
Starting point is 02:01:53 You have to adjust as a content creator and find that if they want to build a media company. You're seeing the big foxes and these companies that are now bringing talent and saying, hey, do a podcast. Hey, we'll support you doing this. Everyone has to pivot. But the reality, what the world is learning is whoever controls the the knob controls the future content creators. Okay, is Nick Fuentes on YouTube? No. Why is he not?
Starting point is 02:02:18 Because of who controls the knob? Of course. Okay. So where is he back on? X. Why? Because of who controls the knob? Where is he at? He's at rumble. Why? Because of who controls the knob. So you just got to keep in mind whenever somebody, whenever these companies want to elevate somebody or destroy somebody, they can't because they control the knob. This is a nasty part of the story. Now, this doesn't I mean that's the main reason and the only reason that, you know, they're having a hard time with it. No. Do the bots play a little bit of game? Probably, but not that much.
Starting point is 02:02:50 Is it YouTube controlling the knob? And that's why I'm being Shadow Man. I've never liked when people said, I'm being Shadow Man. No, just improve your content. Make it better. This is a brutal, brutal business to be in. The moment you take a camera and you go, I believe such and such, you are going to get attacked. 100%.
Starting point is 02:03:11 So if you don't like it, don't use the words. In my opinion, I believe, just be quiet. But if you do say I believe in my opinion, expect people to come and hate on you as part of the territory, period. And they're going to get it right now. But trust me, in six months, going to be somebody else.
Starting point is 02:03:29 And a year it's going to be, then they're going to say, whoa, let me tell what's going on with PPD pile. Let me tell what's going to. You're in the arena. Expect the heat that's going to come with it. But you can also be like, I don't really give a shit what people say about me.
Starting point is 02:03:37 You're an idiot when you say stuff like that. You're a clown. You're an arrogant entitled person when you say, I don't give a show what people think about me. If that award has ever come out of your mouth on the idea that I don't need to improve, you're a has-been and the market's going to destroy you. I don't care who you are.
Starting point is 02:03:54 If my kids come up to me and let you say, Dylan starts scoring a bunch of goals, he becomes the best player, and he's in the car and says, I don't care what the new court says about me? I'm like, I'm sorry, what? No, what did the coach say? He says, well, I'm not running as much as I used to. He's right. What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:04:09 Yeah, take his feedback. What I mean you're not running? Well, I don't care what he says. No, no, no. That's not how life flies. You got to make sure you go out there and take that feedback. So we'll see what to happen here. I'm optimistic long term.
Starting point is 02:04:20 I think he's still young. There's going to be a lot of highs, a lot of lows. And at the end of the in 20 years, 2046 will look back and see where this thing takes us. Adam, I'll have one more story I want to get to. But you're raising your hand. I'm just saying wait until 2028 because that's where I think the views are going to come. So we'll see.
Starting point is 02:04:36 Okay, let's go to the next one. All right, Drake and LeBron. Rob, do you have this? want to make this very brief. And Adam, I'm coming to you first. Me. I'm coming to you next. And Tom, I'm not coming to you. So if you want to pull up the Drake, so allegedly, is this, is this the lyrics, Rob? Is this? Yes, this is a song. So Drake, rumor has it, is taking shots at LeBron. It's a while time. And, and it's pretty, it's pretty tough. Rob, if you want to play this, can we even play it or no, Rob?
Starting point is 02:05:05 Yes, we can play it. Are you sure? Yes, we'll fight it in post. It's covered under fair use. Go for it. I want to go. Please stop asking about what's going on with 23 and me. I'm a real nigga and he's not. It's in my DNA. I could have felt back like the merry rapper, but we engage. I told y'all I'm settled in my evil ways.
Starting point is 02:05:25 These niggas thinking that the spot is up for grabs they'll never see today. To be the number one, you got to leave. Okay. So what happened with 23 and me? Who's he talking about? This guy named LeBron James. Okay. And by the way, the lines continue.
Starting point is 02:05:40 you on what he says about all this stuff. I shouldn't even be shocked to see you in the arena because you always made your career for switching teams up. Please stop asking what's going on with 23 and me. I'm a real, you know what, and he's not. It's in my name. Drake 39, James 41,
Starting point is 02:05:58 they seem to be having tension, and it's interesting with this tension because at the beginning, they used to be like an item. I think one of the main songs was him. What was the song that he had, greatness? You know, there was a song that he made that was in LeBron's, what do you call it, videos that he would make, it would mainly be this song.
Starting point is 02:06:21 So, Adam, how much are you following this story between the feud of these two guys? Zero percent, but that doesn't mean I don't know anything about LeBron. I don't know about Drake. I know they spent a lot of time when Drake was coming up in the early 2010s. When LeBron was playing for the heat, they definitely had a relationship. But I don't know the, literally, I didn't even. know the story popped up, but what I will say is this, and I'm just connecting dots here. Hey guys, I'm just asking questions.
Starting point is 02:06:48 Toronto Raptors won a championship in, what, 2019? Okay. LeBron was still on Cleveland then, so there was some, there was some beef at that point. He had just left Cleveland. But also, what's the city that, and by the way, Drake is from Toronto, what's the city, this connecting gods? I don't know. What's the city, the one NBA city that LeBron criticized recently?
Starting point is 02:07:10 Oh, I don't know. Memphis. Memphis. Where's Drake from? Canada. That's where his mom's from. Where's his dad from? Memphis.
Starting point is 02:07:20 Memphis. So there's some stuff going on behind the scenes here, but I know this. I don't think that's what it is. I'm just connecting dots here, but I know this. I don't know what happened here. They both got some dirt on one another. They both been in some secret rooms, parties. I'm not saying dating parties, whatever.
Starting point is 02:07:36 They know some stuff. But let me tell you something. Drake, run into LeBron by yourself without your crew and then talk shit. I don't think you're going to say one word to LeBron. So there's a difference between Yappen, and it's funny thing is Drake made his career on saying that Twitter fingers turned into trigger fingers turn into Twitter fingers,
Starting point is 02:07:56 basically saying that everybody's not tough. You talk tough online, but not in real life. Let's see if Drake does anything to LeBron in real life, because I guarantee you, if you're going to come for the king, you better not miss. So LeBron, better luck next time in the playoffs. I think Luca Donchik's is coming back for the next series. I want to say this.
Starting point is 02:08:15 I think one of the reasons was because do you remember we were watching the Super Bowl and LeBron was dancing to Kendrick Lamar? That's it. And so that's what I think is, right? Because I'm reading these lines on what he said. I'm like, what was last name ever, first name? Great is. Greatest.
Starting point is 02:08:34 And he was nothing to play with. Yeah, that was about LeBron Jane. Was it? Yeah, that was about LeBron James. So that song, you know, when you think about it. So these guys have been buddies for a while. And now all of a sudden it's like, hey, I saw bro at the pop out with them. Key lines pop out with them.
Starting point is 02:08:51 Who's them? Kendrick Lamar, you switched on the guys and supported a hater. Like, what are you doing going from me to him? And, you know, Kendrick did the not like us, which blew up massive, huge. And that I think, I think, Adam, that's the connecting the dots. Is that because the Kendrick Lamar Drake beef was Kendrick in the lyrics saying something about pedophilia or something? Do you remember that beef where he was saying? Oh, yeah, you like them young.
Starting point is 02:09:17 Yeah, you like them young. So then think about this. You're friends with, I know Tom's following. Guys, look at Tom. Tom knows that LeBron and Drake were like this. Tom's going to make you laugh now and cry later, buddy. They were like this. Tom's going to freestyle out of this.
Starting point is 02:09:32 They were friends. And then Kendrick Lamar, LeBron is chilling with Kendrick Lamar and bumping his music. music and hanging out with them. And Drake was like, nope, especially after, bro, you hang out with somebody that's calling me a pedophile in the lyrics. I'm not going to be cool with you. So I think that's what Pat made a great, great point. I don't know. I like it. I think it's I like it that it's happening. Why did you want to cover the story? This is so not up our alley typically. And that's why it's the last story. And so the audience have not interested. Go ahead and do your thing. But this is, this is, look, as a kid, I was a hip hop guy.
Starting point is 02:10:01 I was a hip hop and an R&B guy. You were a two-thous-2003. Till 2003. After that, I turned off the radio and I just let like this morning I just texted something to Spencer Brad right now encouraging him I send him two pages from a book to read and this was an audio book that I played in the car 24-7 for two years this is the only audio book that played in the car and I stopped listening to hip-hop but the thing with hip-hop and the wars internally the games interest selling it now oh my God I got to see what's in the album this is how you do it this is how you sell an album this is a marketer that you get the the right eyeballs and see what happens to it. Anyways, gang, great spending time with you guys as
Starting point is 02:10:42 usual on Friday. Rob, do we have anything going on this weekend or no? No, we have an interview going out next Tuesday. And that's what? With Paul Saladino, probably one of the funniest interviews I've done a long time. You're going to laugh your ass up. But with that being said, have a great weekend, everybody. God bless. We'll do it again next Monday. Take care. Bye bye, bye, bye.

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