PBD Podcast - Trump & Zelenskyy Meet, Putin DEMANDS Donbas & Israeli Cybersecurity Official ARRESTED | PBD Podcast | Ep. 631

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick break down Trump’s face-to-face meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Putin’s demand that Russia keep control of ...the Donbas region as part of any peace deal, and the shocking arrest of Israel’s top cybersecurity official on charges of child sex crimes.------💻 REGISTER FOR PBD'S FREE WEBINAR: "20 THREATS BUSINESSES CAN'T IGNORE IN 2025" | AUGUST 16TH @ 6PM | REGISTER: https://bit.ly/3V0dvSu 🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/40lR90L⁠⁠ 🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:17 My son's right there. I think I've ever said this before. All right, gang. I hope you guys are on time. It is officially 9 o'clock. Poverty podcast. second week of Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Last week was a success.
Starting point is 00:00:34 We got a lot of positive commentary about it. There's a lot to discuss, especially with the visit in Alaska. I don't know if you guys had any chance to go to Alaska this weekend. It was like a big meeting going on between this one guy that runs this country called, you know, Russia. Used to be called USSR and another one that's a pretty powerful guy. Some call him the most powerful guy in the world. Donald Trump. And it was a big meeting.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Zelensky didn't show up. But today they're going to have a meeting. and apparently he's going to be wearing a suit today. Apparently, the EU NATO told him, listen, I think it's a good idea to wear a suit. Like a babysitter. Will he wear a suit or not? Like a child. Don't wear a tie.
Starting point is 00:01:09 They're saying babysitting. There's a lot of back and forth. We haven't even commented on that event that took place. I can't wait. So we'll get into that. A lot to say about that. You know, Hillary Clinton is so cornered now that even she comes out and says if he stops the war,
Starting point is 00:01:22 she's going to have to nominate President Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize, which is pretty interesting. Bill Maher slams zombie lie that Trump is Putin's ally after Alaska summit. I also like with Billmore. There's a couple things with Bill Maher. Billmore got emotional on one of the clips about Trump. Another one he talks about how he could never get Democratic leaders to get on his show. Never.
Starting point is 00:01:43 He could never get him to get on his show. Even with Obama, he had to get like a letter or commission approved for him to get him after eight years. But there's a reason for it. And we'll talk about that. I got some thoughts on that on what happened there. Vladimir Putin takes swipe. at Biden says no war if Trump was president. Now, you know, to me internally, that's one of the things that Trump said, you better say publicly or else. I think I was one of the negotiations
Starting point is 00:02:09 that he had with him and he asked for it. CNN's Harry Enten says Americans vastly prefer Trump's handling of crime over Biden. Nearly 200 arrested as federal agents take over DC police. I'm going to show you a clip that Vinny just showed us of what they're doing in D.C. It's disgusting. You just have to, before you react and cut this clip, watch it first before you react. It's painful to why. I never thought I'd get to that point to say, like, I can't believe that Trump is. Hold your emotions today.
Starting point is 00:02:41 No angry Patriots. It's going to be reasonable patriot today. All right. Newsome leads, California. Newsom leads, California redistricting plans revealed and leaked map. He says, if you're going to take away five seats in Texas, we're going to take away five seats from you. Schwarzenegger opposes Newsom's. Push to Scrap, Redistrict Commission.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Blue States planned new tax hikes on wealthy residents. In response to Trump's federal tax legislation, Israel's cyber director-employed employed arrested in the U.S. suspicion of pedophilia. DHS Secretary Noam temporarily relocates residents over vicious doxing. Christine Noam is living free of charge in Coast Guard Commandments Home. Tom's got some thoughts on that one right there. buying homes, nobody's switching jobs, and America's mobility is stalling.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Dream of U.S. homeownership slips further from view as average mortgage cost. Leap for past median incomes. That's the New York Post. The other one was Wall Street Journal. And I don't know if you got to saw Beyonce's ad with Levi's trying to out
Starting point is 00:03:48 do Sydney Swin. I still haven't seen it. Have you seen it? Rob, you have it, though, right? Let's have that. I think you guys got to see it, folks. There's a couple of clips you guys got to see. And you tell me who did it better. My sons were watching the commercial. And every time they had to close their eyes at one scene because they were getting uncomfortable on how hard they tried to beat Sydney Sweeney. Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. Who knows? Marker Rubio accused a CBS reporter of pushing stupid media narrative in theory clash over
Starting point is 00:04:14 Zelensky. Trump shares First Lady Melania's letter to Putin as he rages over coverage of Alaska Summit, Black Rock Larry Fink, appointed as W.E.F. World Economic Forum. interim co-chair, which makes sense. Larry Fink to have that job. Peace first, Nazi's fire. Wutkoff explains why Trump changes his position on Ukraine. And then we got Kobe, director Comey, ex-director Comey,
Starting point is 00:04:41 try to make this video to seem cool about Taylor Swift. Extremely, extremely awkward, according what the fellas here had to say. Before we get into it, tomorrow night, Rob, if you can go to it, there's a lot of things that's going on right now in the marketplace, tomorrow night, the 19th, Tuesday night, the 19th at 6 p.m., free webinar, 20 threats, 20 threats you cannot ignore in 2025. We do this every year, and it's a new one every single
Starting point is 00:05:11 year that we go through. I highly, highly recommend. If you're somebody that runs a small business, you're an executive with a company, or somebody that's an entrepreneur, you're running, you're running a business, you're planning on doing something for yourself. Whatever you do, do not miss tomorrow night's webinar at 6 p.m. August 19th, again, 6 p.m. Everybody at the end gets the white paper of the 20 threats. Everybody gets the white paper of the 20 threats and a couple other items that will be discussing on that. Rob, the link for this vtwebinar.com. Go to vtwebinar.com to register for the webinar. Again, vtwebinar.com. Having said that, let's get right into it. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:52 So the meeting that took place in Alaska, Trump, Putin, come together for the first time. They both had to travel. When Putin lands, Trump, the walk up, Rob, if you can do any favor and pull up the clip of Trump walks out first, stands waiting for Putin to come, show an authority. He's up there. And then when Putin walks up, all the body language expert YouTubers lose their mind
Starting point is 00:06:20 because this is what you want to see. The first handshake between the two when Putin walks up to shake the president's hand and as he's doing that and they're walking up, Rob, I don't know if you can find it or not, Rob. Just go to X if you're having a hard time finding. It's the most popular clip
Starting point is 00:06:36 out of all of them. So, yeah, gangster. Trump, Putin, handshake. They walk up, not this one. With the B-52 bombers what you're talking about? You can watch this one here. So he's chilling. He's waiting. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Here we come. Hello? Five, four, three, three, two, one. Hey, how much smaller he is. He's like, hi. Hello, little Russian friends. Very good, very good. Very good, very good.
Starting point is 00:07:04 We have fun. And, uh, very good. Yeah. You beat Hillary. All right. Remember you meet Hillary? They said rush collusion. We don't meet it.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Let's do it, boys. Wait for this. So that's that. Now while they're walking, what does Trump decide to do? Talk about timing, by the way. This is not easy to time this. Oh, my God. Watch what they do.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Go ahead, Ryan. Three, two, one. Cue the bombers. Oh, my. Oh. So, wow. He clapped. It's called peace through strength, Vladimir.
Starting point is 00:07:42 That could we acknowledge how gangster you're meeting with the world's largest nuclear power. and he, by the way, he claps and then he leans in and goes, you're good. How gangster is that? Did you just see the voiceovers all weekend? It's like, Vlad, I'm just messing with that. Yeah, he is, but. So why do you think he did that?
Starting point is 00:07:59 I, okay, and I love that you said, the CNN automatically had body language experts. I don't care what your profession is with body language. I don't care what if you despise Trump, the timing and how gangster is it that you see Putin, and the timing of the, you know what that means? The bomb is, like, go, okay, all right, guys, right now. and the moment that he's about to hit that stage
Starting point is 00:08:21 of B-52 bomber which can carry nuclear arsenal with four fighter jets Pat, that goes to show him like, hey, listen, at the end of the day, I'm still the Alf, I'm the boss, period. You think that's the reason why any other take them what Vinnie said, any different things.
Starting point is 00:08:36 No, no, no, I don't disagree with it, but Trump understands the moment and he understands trolling, and trolling can be done in so many different ways. Yeah. So that's that part. Now, as they're going about it, they're having their conversations, you know, everything that's going on, you know, different talks, different talks. Rob, do you have any other clips that you want to show with this one here? There was one. Let me grab it.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I believe this is the one that was in your notes. Which one is this one, Rob? This is the handshake and then a breakdown of the right here. Yeah, I like this one. Watch this breakdown of this one TikToker. I like the way he broke it down. Watch this. His moves by Trump during his meeting with Putin in Alaska were. pure negotiating genius. Air Force One lands, Trump steps out, walks straight to his spot. Putin's plane lands after, Trump's already there, standing firm, adjusts his jacket, little wave, a clap or two.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But he's not moving an inch. He's making Putin come to him. That's not random, that's strategy. That's you want to talk, you walk to me. Same move he pulled on the Chinese leader before. It's a silent message. I'm in charge here. And when Putin finally reaches him, Trump goes for the handshake and pulls him in. The handshake mind games are next level. in the most calculated way. He exudes power. That's a real president. Then, the ultimate move.
Starting point is 00:09:53 B, two stealth bombers, cutting through the sky. This isn't just a military show. It's a statement. Fly the most advanced bomber in the world over your rival's head during a handshake. Putin even glances up at it. Trump doesn't, because he already knows it's there. That's confidence.
Starting point is 00:10:08 That's control. That's the art of the deal. Live and unfiltered. Whether you love him or hate him, this was pure showmanship from a master negotiator. And in that moment, everyone watching knew exactly who was in charge. Jake just messaged me too. He leans in and actually says, that's for you.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Like that's a gift. That's so funny. So, Tom, what got accomplished with this meeting? So what got accomplished at this meeting is the two largest superpowers came together on U.S. soil, not at the Hague, not overseas, not in minks where the Germans got together a couple years ago with him. Not any of that. On our soil, says the Alpha got together with him. And there's a lot of things that Putin wants. This wasn't just about Ukraine. There were some other things that were, Wickhoff was talking about that were discussed. And I think what got accomplished is that the world knows the path to peace in the Ukraine goes through Donald Trump. And whether it's on his desk with the documents or it's the aid that he's pushing back, that's what got accomplished. everybody in the world, including other world leaders, knows all, remember Europe was trying, remember when they had the Zelensky incident in the Oval Office? Pat, do you remember what happened the next week?
Starting point is 00:11:24 Zelensky went on tour of Europe, and they all hugged him one at a time and offered him aid, but turns out the UK aid turned out to be debt against the Ukrainian citizens. Remember all that? Yeah. Well, this is Trump, what got accomplished is Trump has reset the narrative of negotiations on the Russia, Ukraine, peace treaty. And it needs to be a peace treaty, not a ceasefire. Rob, can you do me favor? The one thing, if I'm Trump, one of the biggest outcomes, I believe for him, top five, it could have been top three on his list, my opinion,
Starting point is 00:11:57 is for Putin to say the war would have never happened if Trump was president. You have to know that was on top of Trump's list of a thing that he wanted Putin to say because it was a statement for Putin to validate what Trump kept saying during the election and the debate, if I was the president, the war would have never happen. Everybody's like, who the hell you think you are and all this other stuff?
Starting point is 00:12:22 And guess what the guy who started the war just said? Here's what he had to say. Go ahead, Rob. I'd like to remind you that in 20, 22, during the last contact with the previous administration, I tried to convince my previous American colleague that the situation should not, The situation should not be brought to the point of no return when it would come to hostilities.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And I said it quite directly back then, that it's a big mistake. Today, when President Trump is saying that if he was the president back then, there will be no more. And I'm quite sure that it would indeed be so. I can confirm that. I think that overall, me and President Trump have built a very very very very very very very very good business-like and trustworthy contact and have every reason to believe that moving down this path we can come and as soon it better to the end of the conflict in Ukraine. Okay, so for Putin to say if the president, if Trump was the president, war wouldn't have
Starting point is 00:13:31 happened, that's like a slap in a face for the Democratic Party. It's not just Biden, it's the entire Democratic Party. And so as we're going through this, and Adam, I'm going to come to you next. When you see something like this happening, okay, Putin says what he says, okay? They meet, Trump does the showmanship, conversations are being had. There's a lot of messages that nothing happened. This was a waste of time. You know, a lot of liberal media are saying all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:57 There was even a moment when Rubio goes on Kristen Walker. I don't know which one of this. We'll show that here in a minute, but there's a lot of stuff that was says, where are you at with this? What do you think was accomplished with this meeting? So, you know, you guys were talking about you went to see a movie this weekend? I went to see a movie this week. I never seen movies. But this is very reminiscent of a mafia movie.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And it's almost like the godfell. You got Don Trumpino out here. He's the mafia boss of America. You got Putin. He's the mafia boss of Russia. And then you have Zelensky. He's just sort of low-level street boss that's caught up in the middle of this, almost like a pawn. And he's begging for protection.
Starting point is 00:14:35 you got the EU and NATO they're their own sort of bosses on their end and they're basically not wanting to send their sons to war so they're sending money and they're sending military equipment and they're selling weapons and at the end of the day this is a turf war Trump understands what he's looking for
Starting point is 00:14:53 Trump wants to get a deal done why does Trump want to get a deal done Trump could care less what's going on in Ukraine and Russia Trump wants to pivot to China China is the big big big boss I know you mentioned the two global superpowers I assume you meant by nuclear or weaponry superior powers. But China is where basically U.S. wants to pivot.
Starting point is 00:15:12 The sooner that we can get this deal done in Russia, the sooner we can figure this out, the sooner we can pivot to the big issue of our time, which is China. So we'll see how long this takes. I said on the last show there's a 99% chance. Nothing comes from this. I think Zelensky is going to come to the office? What, this week in a suit?
Starting point is 00:15:30 Is it today? Today they're driving. So he's bringing his whole crew there. you know, UK, France, Germany, he's even bringing the one NATO leader who called Trump Daddy. So Don Trumpino, the end-all-be-all mafia boss, is calling all the cards here. And we'll see what happens. I agree with what you say about China. But let me check you a little bit.
Starting point is 00:15:52 99% chance that nothing happens. From that meeting. Before they ever walked in, it reset the global order of who's the alpha and the framework. And then the speech at the podium validates a fabrication and a false, not a fabrication, but a falsehood that the U.S. mainstream media was repeating almost like a synchronized chorus. So where you're- Before we even get to the negotiating table and before Zelensky ever steps foot into Washington where you have all the folks of Europe, 99% chance nothing happened of it, I see a lot as already. So what do you mean by that? So what you're talking about is rhetoric and marketing and bravado? Is the war still going to? on in Ukraine? At the moment. Yeah, exactly. So meaning nothing has changed. The whole goal of this
Starting point is 00:16:39 meeting is to create a ceasefire. Wait, are you saying no ceasefire? What are they going to sign it as you walk off the plane? No, no progress has been made. That's not what I said. I said progress in regards to war. The whole goal. Progress in a regards to. Okay, so, so by the way, just this morning, Russia attacked a Ukraine and apartment, if I'm not mistaken, and a few people were killed, right? Can you look this up to verify that? Because I saw that. I saw that. in the news early this morning with this going on. Vinny, what are you thinking, but what he's saying? Well, yeah, that's the one. Russia drone strike in Ukraine just this morning. So it's just like, right?
Starting point is 00:17:15 They did the same thing. They did the right before. Yeah. 140 drones into Ukraine overnight. So right they did it after the meeting with Trump, thanks for the meeting, thanks for the same thing. Zalenski did the same thing. Guys, because at the end of the day, you're right, it's war.
Starting point is 00:17:31 But this is going to come down to. Zelinsky and the people in his ear going, because guys, it's all about the money. You say follow the money. It's all the defense contractors. It's all he's going to be begging for money. And I don't care if he's wearing a suit. If he has that attitude, it's not going to work.
Starting point is 00:17:44 But what pissing me off, Pat, is the left. Everybody on the left is just, it's almost as if they hope it all goes down. Brian Krasenstein, that really big, tough muscular Krasenstein, who had his shirt off in the beach this weekend. He went online and said this, Pat. He said, they should have snipers in Anchorage, Alaska, ready to take him down as soon as he shrugged.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And look, what do you write at the bottom? Correction, we should poison him instead. What type of ad... Okay, I get it. He's doing it for the clicks, but what type of... First of all, I don't know. Isn't that a... That's illegal?
Starting point is 00:18:15 That's a death threat. Guess what? Under U.S. law, it's illegal to publicly call for the assassination of a foreign leader. The Secret Service and FBI treat those kinds of statements seriously because it could create diplomatic problems. And I get you want to be clicks and you want to be that guy, but Pat, if you think about it,
Starting point is 00:18:30 with that attitude, and this is the left, He, God forbid, they shoot and they hit Putin. What happens? What happens if Putin gets shot and killed? It's over. It's World War III. So I'm getting sick. I hate this is the attitude of the left.
Starting point is 00:18:41 They can't even admit that we're trying. This is, you know, this is, let's move on from this one. Brian, if you're watching this, I'm going to be very fair with you. This is, you can hate Trump and see all that stuff. That's not good. This is irresponsible to make a comment like this. But so let me go to a couple other things. Marco Rubio, to me, has become the.
Starting point is 00:19:02 MVP on this entire exchange with Alaska, Russia, all of that. I am so impressed with Marco Rubio. I can't even describe it to you. The way he handles media, when I watch between him and JD, they have different styles on their games, but just watch this exchange on how he handles it. This is, it's not even, I don't even want to say it's a clinic. You can tell he's so vested. Marco many years ago, 15 years ago when he was running, 12 years ago when he was running, they would say he's not the hardest working senator. That was the reputation he had. He's not the hardest working. He's not the hardest working guy. He's not the hardest working guy. That's the reputation he had super talented, super capable, but he'll never be president because he's not the
Starting point is 00:19:46 most hardworking guy. He just relies on his talent. Whatever has happened and whether it was the 2016, 2020 debate that completely changed his approach, this is a new man. This is a new man. I'm telling you right now, some's happened that public fight against Trump got him to improve himself. Watch the way he handles himself here. Go ahead, Rob. You know there's concern from the Europeans that President Zelensky is going to be bullied into signing something away. That's why you have these European leaders coming as back up tomorrow. Can you?
Starting point is 00:20:19 No, it isn't. That's not why they're coming us back. That's not true. But that's not why? That's not true. They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied. They're not coming. In fact, they're coming here to market.
Starting point is 00:20:29 They're coming here to market. Television cameras where President Zelensky. Do you know how many meetings we've had since then? Oh, no, I know. And I was just up in Alaska watching the one with Vladimir Putin where a red carpet rolls rolled out for the rest of the leader. We've had more meetings. We've had more meetings. We've had one meeting with Putin and like a dozen meetings with Zelensky.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So that's not true. They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied. They're coming here tomorrow because we've been working with the Europeans. We talked to them last week. There were meetings in the UK over the following the previous week. The previous weekend. And they said President Trump was going to demand a ceasefire. As early as Thursday.
Starting point is 00:21:01 But you said that they're coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky for being bullied. They're not coming here tomorrow. This is such a stupid media narrative. They're coming here tomorrow because Trump is going to bully Zelensky into a bad deal. We've been working with these people for weeks, for weeks on this stuff. They're coming here tomorrow because they chose to come here tomorrow. We invited them to come. We invited them to come.
Starting point is 00:21:21 The president invited them to come. But the president told those European leaders last. week that he wanted to ceasefire. The president went on television, said he would walk out of the meeting if Vladimir Putin didn't agree with on. He said there would be severe consequences if he didn't agree to one. He said he'd walk out in two minutes. He spent three hours talking to Vladimir Putin and he did not get one. So there's some mixed messages. Because obviously something, things happened during that meeting. Well, because obviously things, look, our goal here is not to stage some production for the world to say, oh, how dramatic he walked
Starting point is 00:21:49 out. Our goal here is to have a peace agreement, to end this war, okay? And obviously we felt, and I I agreed that there was enough. By the way, he to me, remember how with the tariffs, the MVP became Besson. Yes. Right? With each issue, to me, there's an MVP. Rubio is the MVP. Like when I always say, Tom's the MVP about selling the company. When we sold the company, Tom was the MVP.
Starting point is 00:22:11 How many times have you heard me say that? Hundreds of times, right? Rubio is the MVP in this case. Wow. I'm so impressed by Rubio. For Russia, Ukraine. Oh, I am just so impressed with Rubio. I can't even describe to you.
Starting point is 00:22:24 In this specific project, I'm so impressed with Ruby on the way he's handling himself because there was a meeting this morning with Mario Barteramo, no, yesterday. He did an interview with Maria yesterday. And another one, yeah, so in the interview of Maria, I was like, no, that's not true. Look, the reality of it is, what if nothing happens?
Starting point is 00:22:43 What if this, what if she's asking? It says, what if nothing happens? We're going to have to go back to sanctions and we're going to have to go back to what we had before, which means there is nothing going on for another 15 months, 18 months, year. that's not what Putin wants. If Putin wants to go, then there is no deal. We have to go back to that. And then he says, don't forget, this isn't about us in Russia. This isn't about us in Ukraine. We don't have a war. They have a war. We're simply trying to bring broker a peace deal here. We didn't start this war. This is between them. All we're trying to do is find a way to get this thing knocked out of the way. So then the question becomes NATO. Does NATO want this war to be done? So let's kind of go through the process on why NATO, EU, why are these leaders,
Starting point is 00:23:23 all these folks, Rob, can you pull up who will be joining Zelensky in the meeting with Putin, in the meeting with Trump? So if you look at the list of people that are joining, why are they coming? Is it because Zelensky was out of control last time? Is it because Zelensky was bullied last time? Is it because Zelensky didn't know how to negotiate and diplomacy? He lacks diplomacy because obviously Zelensky is probably the worse than diplomacy between the three. If you think about Zelensky, Trump, and Putin, Putin's willing to sit down. Putin's willing to talk.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Biden was horrible with diplomacy. Zelensky, horrible with diplomacy. Maybe Starmer is coming in because he has diplomacy, which he does. He understands the idea of what's going on there. So do we have the list of people? Yeah, Rob, I sent you a picture of who's coming. French Macron will be there. Ercelain, President of European Commission will be there.
Starting point is 00:24:19 German Chancellor will be there. Italian, Georgia, Meloni will be there. By the way, just so you know, most of you know, most of the government. of these guys have a decent relationship with Trump. So what they're trying to protect them? Is that what they're trying to do? Or are they worried that Zelensi is going to ruin it again and there's more war? Because, you know, the promise that Trump's trying to give Putin,
Starting point is 00:24:36 brokering it through EU, from what I've looked at with what people are saying, is he's trying to make sure Trump knows. Ukraine is not going to join NATO. But if you cross the line again, I'm going to be participating in Article 5. Like, we may be involved in an Article 5 because you're crossing the line. You can't attack Ukraine. So I think some of the ways they're trying to, they're trying to give Russia what he wants, which means Ukraine can join NATO.
Starting point is 00:25:04 But then at the same time, they're also trying to protect Ukraine that if you do attack them, this also is a form of a, what is the one that's on the NATO, that if you cross the line, it is as if you're attacking EU. Article 5. I thought that's Article 5. You attack one, you attack all. We are obligated to help. So then they ask him and they say, well, what about the minerals?
Starting point is 00:25:25 You know, you need so many minerals from them. What about that? And he's like, what about the minerals? You think we can't get him from other place? He says, yeah, of course we like the minerals from Zelensky. Of course we like minerals from Russia. But we have other options as well. I just really like the way Rubio is handling himself.
Starting point is 00:25:40 But to me with the meeting that they're having, that's going to be happening today. One, if Zelensky wears a suit, who wins there? Who gets to win if he wears a suit? No, Trump gets to win. Okay, Trump gets to win. If NATO forces whoever got Zelensky to wear a suit, that's because of that's Trump's ask. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:04 So I guarantee you on a call, Trump and his people talk to all these seven other people and they said, I swear to God if he shows up to the White House without a suit, there's no deal. Okay, so that's one. So guess what? They all are going to force this guy to wear a suit. Will he, will he not?
Starting point is 00:26:19 We'll see. If he doesn't, guess what? You lack diplomacy, okay, to say this is the standard of our house. You come in your damn suit. I don't give you what you want to wear in your house. In our house, you wear a suit. All right, great. So then he has to step up his game. But, you know, regardless of it all, the progress that they're making, if this leads to them stopping, they're asking for, the request that he has is what? They're asking for, Russia's asking for, the two locations, right? Let me go to it, Rob. If you have it, we're trying to pronounce these words. Putin's demanding Ukraine C, Donetsk and Lujansk, in exchange for freezing rest of frontline. Zelensky is saying the Constitution doesn't allow him to do that. Okay?
Starting point is 00:27:07 And then they're going back and forth in that area, but that's something that Putin, a million people have died. I think we played this clip last week, Rob, if I'm not mistaken, or we haven't played this clip. I don't believe we have. Okay, go for it. Watch this. Russia is still unsuccessful in Donetsk region.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Putin has been unable to take it for 12 years. And the constitution of Ukraine makes it impossible, impossible to give up territory or trade land. Since the territorial issue is so important, it should be discussed only by the latest of Ukraine and Russia at the trilateral Ukraine, United States, Russia. So far, Russia gives no science. and that trilateral will happen. And if Russia refuses, then new sanctions must follow. Okay, so he's imposing what he's claiming is going to happen, what can't be done. So ahead of negotiation, Tom, they're saying what they're not willing to give up.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Typically, when there's a big negotiation, here's how it works. Say you're trying to sell your, the two of you are trying to sell us a company. We are trying to buy your company. You need us because you guys are in shit right. now because you guys lost four of your big accounts. You have great technology, great contacts, great product over the years, but you've messed up with four contacts, four client of yours, and you're coming to us, you want to sell.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Okay, there is 10 things on the deal sheet. There's 20 items. Of the 20 items, two of them are things that are most important to you. You don't want me to know those two, but maybe you have to. There's four items that are important to us. We don't want you to don't know what the four items are, Maybe your job is to read what our two are, what our four are. Our job is to identify what your two are.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Zelensky is telling them prior to the negotiation that what? I'm not giving these two properties. Putin's telling you that's what I want. Okay? Putin's, Trump's telling you, you better tell the world what I mean? This war would have never happened. Everybody's making their asks of what's going on. So if Zelensky is saying that in advance, this war is going to continue for a while. And if it does, I did a number yesterday.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Rob, can you pull up how many people have died already? My dad asked me a question. You said, how many people have died? A couple hundred thousand. I said, no, it's a million. Over a million people have that. On both sides, collectively, you're saying? If you go on chat, GBT, how many people have died on Ukraine-Russia war?
Starting point is 00:29:29 It's already over a million. I've seen a million human beings gone. That's a lot. That's insane. We're driving Uber. We talk to people that are Ukrainian or Russia. Hey, family back there, yes, I lost my this. I lost my death.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I lost my desk. Right there. A CSIS report. roughly $950,000,000, okay, $250,000 that you have under Russia forces go lower? Does it show total? There's a number that shows over a million total. Okay, right there. Go up a little bit, Rob.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Go up right there. Russia military, $250,000. Part of over 1 million total military casualties, Ukraine, the military over $100,000 to $350,000,000, $13,000, $8.33. You know, you got anywhere between a half a million to a million people that have died because of this war. that we know about. That we know about. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah. Well, something that nobody ever brings up is that this is literally a civil war, it seems. Because these are the same people. You ever met a Ukrainian person? It's like, no, I'm Russian. Well, I'm Russian. Yeah, I'm Ukrainian. What do you language you see?
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's the same thing. I mean, they're exactly the same. And the biggest part of what's going on with the military and the concessions here is everyone's like, just give up the land, bro. Just give up the land. Do you know what percentage of Ukraine? They're asking them to give up if they do a deal? Do you know what percent?
Starting point is 00:30:45 How much? 20 percent of the country. that'd be like hey america let's figure out this deal you know all right give up florida georgia and everywhere up to virginia north carolina you can have the 80% of the country ukraine's like niet i don't want to give why would you do something like this it's not like oh the donbass we don't know anything about this guys let's be real here we're good donbass mollets we don't know this region we don't know what's going on Putin wants a buffer between nato that's very clear uh Zelensky's caught in the middle pawn. He's just basically not conceding land. You know, if you trust Ukrainian polls whatsoever,
Starting point is 00:31:24 the vast majority of Ukrainians do not want to give up the land. Okay. So it's not like there's Ukrainians being like, come on, Zelensky, give up land, let's have peace. They're like, no, no, no, no, no. We're not giving up 20% of our country. And then why is the EU involved? Check this out. It's called sovereignty and recognition. EU, the European knows it's the biggest war that's been in fault in Europe since World War II. They have a very, very simple rule. We're not recognizing when a attack takes place and a country invades another country. We're not giving them precedent and they can just change borders. The one lady, the blonde lady, I think she's president of the EU. Yeah, there she goes, Ursula, president of the...
Starting point is 00:32:07 Ovalian. Yeah. She says, Ukraine is still porcupine undigestable to invaders. I don't even know if she has Ukrainian an accident, I just threw that thing in there. However, the EU is coming there and basically saying, if you do this, if you give up land, it sets a precedent that anytime someone attacks, that you can just redo borders. And correct me if I'm wrong, when Europeans just start, you know, drawing lines on a map, that usually ends up pretty ugly, i.e. Middle East, i.e. India, Pakistan, it gets very ugly when you just start redrawing borders. I don't remember when that's what they're... The Indian drew up India, Pakistan, but go on.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Who owned India and Pakistan before that? Wasn't it the British? There's a couple things going on here. Wasn't it the British? The British trading company, like back? Didn't bizarre years ago? Didn't Britain colonize India? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:03 We're not talking to... You're bringing things up, and you're trying to connect them to Ukraine here. And you're talking about... It's a metaphor. Now, let me point out a couple things. Are you trying to say that India did not carve up? No, I'm not doing that. Don't, come on, don't be petty.
Starting point is 00:33:20 You're restrating it. Well, wait a minute. You're saying what? This is what? The borders between India and Pakistan were drawn in 1947 at the time of partition of British India. Key figures of maim of borders were drawn. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah, the partition of the British India. Right, I got it. Tom, let's stay on topic here. So going back, you wanted to say something about that Ukraine won't give up land that Russia doesn't already occupy. Zelensky says. What are your thoughts on that? So basically,
Starting point is 00:33:48 Russia occupies certain things because, you know, war comes and the front's move, the front lines move. And even that's what Putin was just saying, I will freeze the front line. When you hear that phrase, that's like the line of the war. And so, and what's complicating this, I think, that nobody's talking about it is in 2022, Boris Johnson screwed up the whole thing telling Zelensky to back off any sort of instant peace. That is the point where Trump would have been in there. Get that drunk-blung guy out of here. I will handle this. That's what would have happened. So at that time, Ukraine signed a decree. They signed a decree of their own that said they will not negotiate with Russia.
Starting point is 00:34:30 And the problem that I see right here is that with that decree in place, this is why Trump is navigating it this way. As recently as March of this year, Dmitri Peskov said, hey, we can't negotiate him with them with that decree in place because Zelensky was using that decree. I happen to think that the Europeans are in there as well because Ukraine is the breadbasket of Europe. And with Ukraine economically impacted, this actually benefits Germany, Austria, and France big farmers of Europe because they're able to grow grain and they're able to increase it. So I think there's a lot heading below the surface here. that goes back to that 2022 decree about them not being able.
Starting point is 00:35:16 So he said, the Constitution won't let me do it. Oh, please. We amend constitutions all the time. And so when he says, we're not giving anything to Russia, they don't already occupy, he's talking about the front line. And Russia wants to say, but if you move over a little bit this way, and we have to remember the USSR got carved up. That's where this is here.
Starting point is 00:35:36 That's recent. Yeah, but this is the question I got for you, Tom. What is the likelihood that the leaders from EU, are coming in because they don't want to happen because their worry is, well, he's going to go after Poland next and he's going after this next and he's going to go after that next. Do you think the EU leaders want that area to be given up to Putin?
Starting point is 00:35:58 I think that there are cool heads in that room that understand what has to happen. Okay, so how many of the people that are flying in, Rob, can you pull up those faces? How many the people that are flying in do you think are open to the idea of Zelensky giving that up? Every, isn't every single one of these on here, uh, NATO? They're all NATO. Every one of them is NATO.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Okay. So they're protected, right? Attack one, attack all, right? They're, they're all protected. There is, there is, I think if you ask them, are you concerned about Poland? No. Are you concerned about this? No. I think because of the, the NATO checkmate that happens there. And we have to remember right now, this is, this is not a, a weapon war now. This is a manpower war. So I think the reason they're coming together, I believe that some of these people, like Georgia Maloney and Starmer, I think they actually want to get this thing over with. I believe it. Do I think some of the others on there are kind of playing a little bit? And do I think that they don't want, you know, a certain end without their economic interest? Yeah, I think they're there to represent themselves. I think they're there representing European economics because, you know, Some of them don't want the war to credit. I mean, look at Starmor. Starmor, they were asking, Ukraine was asking him for aid. He says, I can't give you the aid, but I can give you a part of it in debt. What does that say?
Starting point is 00:37:23 They didn't have our unlimited resources just to keep pumping money at the problem. Are you saying that Poland doesn't have concerns that Russia would invade? For Poland is right now, you go after Poland and everybody's in full response. going to sit there, oh, my gosh, it's another Ukraine. No, you're going to have a full response. So, Pat, you asked the question, which one of these leaders would agree to Ukraine giving up land, basically? None of them. Zero of them. There's only one country that has actually agreed to that's Slovenia. Slovakia, sorry, I get my Slavs confused. Yeah, the Slovakia said they would advocate Ukraine and give up land at the end of the war. Every other country has said the following.
Starting point is 00:38:10 we firmly reject any forced land concessions. Trump is basically the one drawn to do a land deal. If you know anything about Trump, deal, deal, deal, the art of the land deal. Not my fight. This is not my thing. But if you ask any one of these leaders,
Starting point is 00:38:24 they've been on the record, they firmly reject that Ukraine give up land. I don't know. What do you think, Tom? Yeah. All weekend long, they're talking about forced land deals. Nobody's talking about negotiating settlements in the same voice. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:38:38 Well, a forced land deal, It means everybody puts a gun to Zelensky's head and says, okay, the aid stops now, everybody stops now, your economy stops now, we're backing off unless you give this to him. You're going to die. That's a forced land deal. Okay, so now let's fast forward to you. Which has happened in history.
Starting point is 00:38:55 The trilateral meeting, which is Trump, Zelensky, and Putin, of which Putin has suggested he wants the meeting to be in Russia. He wants it to be in Moscow, right? Which would be... That's pretty tough if it shows up there, which means Zelensky has to go to Moscow. In enemy territory. They might even bring Tucker Carlson to kind of just smooth things over there.
Starting point is 00:39:15 That was a joke, by the way, is what he's doing. But they're saying that this event may, you know, Putin wants it there. Trump is not a guy that has a problem going everywhere. It's so funny. Guys, Trump flies back from, what do you call it? From Alaska, gets four hours rest, 12 o'clock tea time, goes on golf on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:39:34 That's literally what the guy did. I don't get it. At 79 years old, he's on the golf. course. Not I need some rest. I need some this. You know, Rubio talked about while they're on the plane at 1 o'clock in the morning. He's having calls with the people in, you know, UK to tell him how the meeting went in Alaska. That's your president, folks. That's who you pay your tax, 400,000, $450,000 all your salary to. He's getting paid under minimum wage, just so everybody knows it. The amount of hours he's working. He's not even making minimum wage right now. He's not even
Starting point is 00:40:03 taking the money. Guys, let's take some donations for Donald Trump right now. Okay, go ahead, Rob. Play this clip. I'd like to thank you very much, and we'll speak to you very soon and probably see you again very soon. Thank you very much, Vladimir. Next time in Moscow. Oh, that's an interesting one. I'll get a little heat on that one, but I can see it possibly happy. Thank you very much, Vladimir.
Starting point is 00:40:28 And thank you all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. If the deal was to be brokered and everybody offline agreed, that a peace deal is coming. You think Trump would do it in Moscow? Yes, 100%.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Trump? What do you think, Tom? Yes. I think he's going to break out that little desk that there was in Washington. No, no. The little wooden one. No, no, that's a historical piece. It comes from Sonia where they sign on that.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Yeah, it just looks funny because he's huge. You think he's going to want it here? He wouldn't go to Moscow? I think he'd do it right here. You think he'd do it right here? You think it's going to get done in the next 90 days before the end of the year? Do you think a peace deal is done before the end of the year? Yeah, I think it's a peace deal now, not a piece deal now.
Starting point is 00:41:09 ceasefire. Seasfire allows people to break it. Ceasfires don't work historically. Peace deals do. I love what, again, going back to the MVP of this deal, which is who? Margo Rubio. You know what he said? He says, we're not interested in another one of these deals that you go back on your deal. We're not doing that. We need this thing to be something that six months, 12 months, 18 months from now. We're not looking back again and saying we're back at it again. We don't want that. We want it to be something that everybody in the party commits to it. So again, it'll be interesting to see what happens. We'll watch
Starting point is 00:41:43 the story close to Vinnie. And so Pooin came here to Alaska and a B-2 bomber flies over. If Trump goes to Moscow, what does Poo are going to do? Have like a bear on a tricycle. They're going to have Kazachia performance. Nuclear weapons. Yeah. One thing
Starting point is 00:41:59 about Rubio that I want to give a credit to almost like what you talk about at the SLS, the sales leadership summit, when you're a senator, you don't do that much. Let's get real here. He's secretary of state now. And he's with Trump every single day. And he's watching Trump work. And Trump's the type of guy who's like, you're going to use my work ethic and utilize my skill set and adapt to me or you're out. So don't, don't forget. This is not like an elected position. You
Starting point is 00:42:24 have to be confirmed. And like you said, Pat, Rubio's up to the challenge. Yeah. Okay. I'm glad you had to throw your thought in as the last thing for us to be ready to go to the next time. Oh, I'm so sorry. Thank you for that. Thank you for that. It'll come again. As the closing, because you didn't want Vinny to be the last one. No, Vinny's not a very unique moment. Not a closer. All right, let's go to the next door here with D.C. With everything that's going on in D.C. right now, Harry Anton, from CNN,
Starting point is 00:42:50 do we get somebody that's going to protect D.C. or not? What do we do with National Guard, right? Watch this here. So CNN, Harry Anton says Americans vastly prefer Trump in handling of crime over Biden. Is anybody surprised of this? Go ahead, Rob. Compare Trump to Biden in handling of crime, please. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I think this sort of gives the game away here because Donald Trump is like Eric Jordan towering over Joe Biden when it comes to their handling a crime. Look, in 2024, look at where Biden's net approval was on crime. Way under water there at minus 26 points. It was one of Biden's worst issues. Granted pretty much every issue was one of Biden's worst issues. And again, look at where Donald Trump is. Way, way, way above Joe Biden. Harry, watch your language.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Henry. About to give fire. So Americans desperately prefer Donald Trump's approach to crime than they did to Joe Biden's. And again, I think it gets back to the point that Americans are far more hawkish on crime than a lot of Democrats. She looked at it. Americans at large, how does it break down by party? Yeah, okay. So I think that this is, you know, we're talking about Donald Trump here, right? So I think it's very important to know that this isn't just about Donald's colors.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Donald Trump. It's about Republicans versus Democrats, right? And that, of course, is a key question going into next year's midterm election. I think the party closest to your views on crime. Look, in 2023, Republicans were favored by 13 points. Look at where they were in May of this year. Republicans were actually favored by 60 points. They actually gained ground on crime.
Starting point is 00:44:19 They were maintaining their edge and actually added a little bit to it. So Republicans in the House, Republicans in the Senate, they absolutely want to be talking about crime. The more they feel that we're talking about crime, the better they feel that the electoral landscape is for them. Okay. It's good to see you. Thank you. It's not good to see you.
Starting point is 00:44:36 You're not that happy to see him. Be honest. The body language says, get him the hell out of here. Get a hell out of here. Who does he remind you of, by the way? He reminds me of the, what's his name? The guy that would do all the general manager of the 76ers when he would negotiate all the deals
Starting point is 00:44:53 and would break down all the collective bargaining agreement. Tom Penn, I think his name was. Tom Penn, yeah. I think it was Portland. I think he was. Let's see, who was he with? Was he ever with the 76ers, Rob? Go to his profile?
Starting point is 00:45:06 Go to his profile. Let's see if he, who was he with? F.C., who was he with the NBA? 76 is right there. Manager, gentleman. The guy that's, and he was also at Portland. Okay, exactly. But the guy that says he knows more than the amateur NBA guy that part-time spends two minutes a week.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I would run circles around you in the NBA. Run circles. If you want to talk about Iranian soccer. Can I tell you who he runs? Reminds me up? Stop, let me go to this. Tell us what you're going to say. Vince Vaughn, what are you going to tell us?
Starting point is 00:45:33 No, you ever see Dick Tracy and like the bad guy? I'm like, yeah. How you doing? I didn't do nothing. I'm not doing. I'm not selling. Yeah, you see? Yeah, you see?
Starting point is 00:45:41 That's him right there. And every time he goes on scene and he's like, listen here, your wife is ugly. His wife is hot. Your wife is ugly. His wife is hot. Nobody's watched. If you won't know what Dick Tracy is, listen, you're part of the generation that he no longer dates. I mean, it's a, it's a big, Tracy.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Of course I know Dick Tracy. I have to sit here and pretend I know famous Persian singers and do this. Nearly 200 arrested. Nearly 200 arrested as federal agents take over D.C. police force. Rob, this clip, okay, go for it. Go ahead, Rob. The numbers are breathtaking here. Since President Trump asserted federal control over our nation's capital in Washington, D.C.,
Starting point is 00:46:23 we have seen a record number of violent offenders, bad guys, gang members, and all kinds of threats of public safety removed off the street, as well as their illegal weapons that they've been using to terrorize the citizens of this city. Additionally, we have seen over 70 homeless encampments that have scarred and disfigured the public streets of this city dismantled and thrown away and the homeless cleared from those encampments. At the same time, we have the National Park Service
Starting point is 00:46:54 going around and getting rid of the gang graffiti that has been left untouched by this city for decades. Since I've lived here, I moved to Washington, D.C. 20 years ago, and I've seen graffiti in some of our landmarks that has gone unremove for decades that is now being cleared away. You have gang members that are being taken off the streets. You have druggies that are being taken off the streets. You have our parks being made safe again, our transit being made safe again. Last night, I had the honor and privilege of being at roll call for all of the federal and state officers
Starting point is 00:47:27 that are going out in these task force. They are thrilled to be here. They are thrilled. at the local level and at the federal level to be able to have this assignment on behalf of President Trump to make our nation's capital safe and clean again. It really is liberation for Washington, D.C., Griff. Okay, so now, all over online, you'll hear people talking about. I cannot believe they're calling National Guard on the people and all this other stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:53 This is such inhumane, you know, Newsom, all these... Mar-a-L-L-Lam-Bast. Why would you ever do such a thing? However, Vinnie, what else, you know, There's a clip that you have of what happened in D.C. Would you mind showing the D.C. clip. I'm going to show it, Rock, and I'm all for, listen, the people, you know, the crime is up and everything. But sending a National Guard like this in neighborhoods in Washington is absolutely ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I think it's overusing his power. I think it's almost like martial law. Like, Rob, you play this clip. How dare he? How dare. Look at this. That's a military Hummer. Tom, that's a Hummer.
Starting point is 00:48:29 And then look at this crap. This is in D.C. Look at, what the, like, come on, man. They're walking the street of a neighborhood. What do you guys? Give your health now. Look at the, what the hell is going on? This is National Guard.
Starting point is 00:48:44 National Guard. Wait, Vinny. Wait, Adam. And then look, she's filming. Oh, my God, did he shoot her? Dude, what country do we live in, guys? What country do we live in? Get in, get in.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah, what the hell is going on? If it's in the suburbs. This is not D.C. Where is it, Pat? This is Tim Walts. That's all. That's many else. Oh, that's during, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:49:05 George Floyd. That's during the George Floyd process. No, that's not actually it. Wait a minute. That's not COVID. It's actually, you got me, bro. Wait a minute. That's a blue state calling the National Guard to restore order.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Yeah, in a state that, by the way, because they know that they can do whatever they want because the proteach, listen, remember, you could protest peacefully in Minneapolis. You could protest peacefully, no mask. It's trying to be nuts. So your point is. I thought Minnesota was the nice state. Oh, yeah. So you're saying what they're doing in D.C. is already what the Democrats were doing in Minnesota?
Starting point is 00:49:34 So, yeah, so he's just basically copycaddy. But you know what drives me crazy? Rob, I send you another thing from, guys, and I, mind you, I can't believe it. I watched the news all weekend, NBC, CBS, ABC. He's being interrupted. And I was getting messages. I was getting messages on Meneck of a guy.
Starting point is 00:49:49 He's actually awesome. It's one of my best Menectors we go back and forth. He's like, Vinny, but who's to say he's going to do it here? And martial law, I go, bro, just like with the tariffs, relax. It's 30 days. The numbers don't lie. And Pat, this is the dude. in Chicago running up to the camera.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Look what he says for Trump to do. This is in Shytown. Go ahead. Hey, Trump. Trump, you need to bring the National Guards to Chicago, man. You got kids killing kids, man. That's not good, man. Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:50:18 There's not much going on compared to Chicago, man. I'm running. It's all happening right now. He's running to get the hell out of... Hey, hey, look, man. Look on the news. Go on the news. Or go on Google type Chicago.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I'm going back home to Africa, man. I can't, I can't. The guy's going back to... The guy's like, I'm out of here, though. The guy's like, I'm going back to Africa. I can't do Chicago. And it's like no, and again, and I told this guy on my neck, I go, guys, if... This guy right here on my neck with you?
Starting point is 00:50:49 No, not this guy. He's like, hey, Vincent, you want to come with me? I heard it's bad in Florida. But my thing is this, if these Democratic leaders got their crap together and actually protect it, because you know what it is, too, Pat, Pat, everybody wants to talk tough. and crime, nobody wants to get their hands dirty, okay? Because the people, and there's another video I saw of a girl, she was in D.C. at night, a black girl, windows down at a red light,
Starting point is 00:51:12 and she goes, thank you, Trump. I get to be at a red light with my windows down and not afraid that I'm going to get mugged their shut. This is it. Finally able to chill at a red light with my window down, not worried about if one of them young niggas come in. Right through the city. You know, you can pause that.
Starting point is 00:51:33 You can pause that as simple as it is. Sometimes, you know, it's the simple things in life that you don't think about when you don't have security. Exactly. When you have security, you don't even know you have it. When you don't have it, you realize the value of just putting your window down driving. Is that wild? Yeah, no, no, it's for sure. Security is number one.
Starting point is 00:51:57 And what he's doing right now with D.C. It's telling you, left, right center. It doesn't matter what part you are. people want this. Tom, your thoughts on the story of what's going on with D.C. What's going on in D.C.? Two things. First of all, the mainstream media always turn it into a referendum
Starting point is 00:52:13 on Trump. They want to get rid of Trump, so they're going to mention Trump and authoritarianism. Those are the words they use. They don't talk about any of the numbers. Stephen Miller just dropped the numbers. If those numbers are correct for one weekend, what does that look like after a month? If those numbers are correct for a weekend, what does that look like just here as summer comes down, it gets colder in D.C.
Starting point is 00:52:36 And supposedly when it gets cold in D.C., some of the stuff goes down because the people, you know, the homeless, you know, migrate a little bit because it's so cold. So my question is, why don't you guys want to talk about numbers? The answer is it's get rid of Trump at all cost and the Dems are sacrificing people in terms of narrative because guess what? everybody benefits from this you've got people of color that are asking for protection that want their they don't want to be a voting block that's pandered to they want safety in their neighborhood just like everybody else and this guy from africa that came to the united states don't know much about his background but you hear his accent he appears to be you know believable and he's like i'm going to leave and go back to africa from chicago so you look at
Starting point is 00:53:23 what's happening in these cities and i think trump is doing exactly the right thing, because remember, he is not crossing over the authority and sovereignty of a state. It's the District of Columbia, and it was Christmas back in 1973, that they got the self-rule document, and it says, if you can't do it yourself, Congress and the government will do it for you. And that's what he's doing. That's what he's doing. And by the way, I don't know if you I saw this, Spike Lee was on a podcast or whatever, talking about. Trump better think twice before doing a federal takeover in New York City. Meanwhile, there was a mass shooting yesterday.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Three people were shot in Brooklyn. Nine others were injured. And a week before, another maniac, another maniac opened fire in downtown midtime skyscraper and shot four innocent people and then shot himself. This attitude of Trump is trying to be this authoritarian. How about tell your leadership, clean up the street? And guess what, New York? mom dani who looks 90% he's going to win wait to see what happens when he takes police defund the police and put social workers think about this mentality pat there's going to be
Starting point is 00:54:32 stabbing and shooting somebody's going to show up and be like how how are you feeling right now while he's stabbing and shooting people and that's not a joke i feel like uh by that's that's that's that's a future but what about right now talk about hokel holkel could ask national guard from her state to go to to new york yes and help you could do it help but guess what She won't do it because that means she has to admit that maybe her leadership didn't work. Maybe leadership in New York didn't work. Oh, and they're all Dems. They're never going to pick on themselves.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And so those are the people they're sacrificing because they have the ability and the authority to do something about it right now. Yep. Okay, you said Spike Lee, by the way. A couple things about Spike Lee. Spike Lee just announced with ESPN that they're no longer doing Kaepernick's documentary. I love it. Yes. And when they asked him, why are you not doing it?
Starting point is 00:55:17 He says, I sign a non-disclosure agreement or non-whatever it is that he can't discuss it. But also, you know, this weekend, I had a chance to go watch the latest movie that came up with Denzel and Spike Lee, I think it's called Highest to Lowest. The two of them have done a bunch of different things together. I think Spike and Denzel did, what movie did they do together? They did Malcolm X together. Yes. And they did one other one, four movies together. I think this is the fifth one.
Starting point is 00:55:46 This is probably Denzel's worst movie I've ever seen in my life. it was absolutely horrible there was it was so annoying watching the movie there was the end part of it there's a scene that's a very good scene
Starting point is 00:56:00 between him and the rapper where they're sitting in the studio they're going back and forward that five minute clip was great but this is probably Denzel's worst movie I've seen in my life
Starting point is 00:56:09 with Spike Lee that took place I actually don't think it was Denzel's typical personality for him to act in a movie like this he's showing
Starting point is 00:56:20 range, but it was hands down the worst movie I've ever seen Denzel do, ever, do. And so funny, this is one of them, and the previous to this one was what, the movie with Gladiator 2? Gladiator 2, which was absolutely ridiculous. I couldn't wait to walk out of that one.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And what's funny with Danzel is, American gangster, God knows how many times I've seen it. John Q, I can't tell many times I've seen it. Man on Fire, I can't tell him in times I've seen it. I'll go to a lot of different Thanks. Training Day. Horrible. Absolutely horrible, horrible movie. Wait till it comes to VHS before you watch it. And you know, you know, them can't, them not wanting to show it,
Starting point is 00:57:04 because he said creative differences with ESPN. Yeah, Kaepernick. And because, you know, yeah, they were going to focus on, they wanted him just to focus on Kaepernick, but he was going to expand it into race and politics. Either way, America is tired of that racial, race-baiting BS that's trying to divide us. It's like people have moved on. It's over. Okay. And I'm happy that it's not going to air. And Kaepernick, it's like almost like every six months when every Kaepernick wants to sell something, he has to come back out and be like, hey, man, this country's racist. Okay, get the hell out. Get out. I'm tired of it. I'm so happy it's not airing. Gosh, I wonder if creative differences has anything to do at all with the NFL owning 10% of ESPN. Maybe they
Starting point is 00:57:43 didn't want their part of the film portrayed in a certain way. Great point. Just a just a wild If you go back to it, and that's what I said. Wow. That's what I said. However, having said that, maybe it's also saying we got to get away from all this racist stuff that we keep insinuating. The market just doesn't want to see it anymore. And there's nobody that caused more chaos in sports than this guy. You got so much attention for it, but I'm kind of glad this project's not getting done.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Adam. Well, black people love Donald Trump. I wouldn't have said that 10 years ago. and what we're starting to see is Trump doesn't care what you call him at this point. He's immune to criticism. You know, they call him the Teflon Don. Real racist. You're a prejudiced. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:58:27 I love my blacks. And we're starting to see everything change. How many black people do you see online? Thank you, Donald Trump. Clean it up, D.C. Come to Chicago. Help us clean it up. How many Latinos do we see?
Starting point is 00:58:41 Yes. Get some of these illegal people out of this country. How often do we see people in California who's the most liberal state saying, we need more conservative policies. How many gay people do we see all the time being like, dude, this T-thing, this trans thing is out of control. So we're going to see more of these people who you would typically never hear give Trump compliments,
Starting point is 00:59:00 just to say, that's my guy. And just really fast guys, because I saw this, Rob, you might want to look it up. The NFL is continuing to feature anti-racism and inspirational messages in the end zones for 2025. Each of the 32 teams will display one of the four approved messages at their home games, which is end racism, stop hate, choose love, or inspire change. Well, I got to tell you, Vinny, great point. I was super racist before I started reading those signs.
Starting point is 00:59:28 You have no idea. And then they told me and racism, I said, I had an idea. And on top of that, the NFL this year added male cheerleaders. I saw that. Minnesota Vikings and Patriots. Patriots. A bunch of them added. Adam's trying out at lunch.
Starting point is 00:59:41 No, I already made it. I'm on the dolphin. So come. Check me out. NFL teams face backlash. In Minnesota. Zoom in a little bit. Tap on Tim. Can you go to the next page?
Starting point is 00:59:50 So that's one. Yes. Falcons, another one. Keep going, Rob. Just cheers. So they're kind of doing what they're doing. And he comes in out of the word. Don't tell me he's coming in.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Oh, my God. Look at him. Look at Adam. Give me a D. Yeah. Give me an eye. You know, every time you think the NFL is going back to normality, they do something like this.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Every single time. What's her deal? They go back. it is, you think people are coming to the NFL to watch men, male cheerleaders? No, no. That's why I go back. Do you think men who like other men are diehard fans of the NFL? Do you think they're coming and I want to see Mel? And if that's the case and you're targeting a 1%, what are you going to be doing next? Who knows? Look, there are some guys that you see that like NFL, but at the same time, that's not the core. What is this right here? Oh,
Starting point is 01:00:42 this is another one of... No, he's a trans. He's a trans. Bro, if you ever go to... Look at his crotch. It's hanging out. Like, what are we talking about? That thing is hanging out.
Starting point is 01:00:51 He could be playing. You ever go to college football games? PPD. Yeah. You ever go to college football games? You can do a ten and out. I have. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:00 So in college football games, they're actually male cheerleaders. Yeah. But here's the difference. They're actually big, you know, strong men. And they're throwing girls up in the air and they're catching them. They don't pretend to be the girls with the pompos. No, we've had executives, by the way, we've had executives and have executives who were male cheerleaders that hold the girls and do all that stuff. They don't hold the bomb bomb stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:23 To go to this direction, to me, my opinion, I don't know, man. Anyway, I just, I don't know. I just bought season tickets to the Vikings. Well, it makes sense. But so let's go to the next story here with what, I want to go through what happened with, can you pull up Bill Mars clip? of the one where he says, why don't these liberals come on my show? Okay, if you can go on that.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Is this the one, Rob? Yes, sir. Okay, go for it. You ask me all the time. Why haven't you ever had Hillary or Bill Clinton on? Why didn't you have Kamala on during the last campaign? You think we don't ask? We ask these people every week.
Starting point is 01:02:07 They say no. It took eight years and a petition to get Obama on. And these are people, all people, I voted for. Think about that. They're afraid to come on the show of a guy who voted for them. The Republicans, they show up. And when they do, they take their beating like a man. What's a man?
Starting point is 01:02:28 Yeah. So, you know, why they don't show up, Bill? Ask the question, why they don't show up. Maybe because they feel like they own you. You know, maybe because they feel like your audience is theirs. Like they work for them. Maybe because they feel like you'd never vote Republican. You'd never vote for Republican.
Starting point is 01:02:48 You'd never vote Republican in 2020. You know that. You work for them. And it's for free. You're going to constantly, you go as close as agreeing with Trump, but then I'm voting for Kamala. You go as close to saying, I can't believe what they did with vaccine, but I'm taking it. You'd go as close to you're going to go over here. That's why they know what you're going to be doing.
Starting point is 01:03:09 You're fairly consistent. You're consistently voting. for them. They don't need to come on your show. They don't need to come talk to your audience. They already own your audience. And unfortunately, what this also does say, though, is the following. Okay. What place is, let's actually go through and see the criticism of some of the politicians in 2024 election last year. 2023, 2024. Who got criticized for not going on all podcast last year? Kamala. No, on the Republican side. Who got criticized for not going? DeSantis? DeSantis? Probably the biggest one.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Ron. Like, we had to make five videos of saying, what the hell are you doing for finally? Be like, okay, I'll come over here and finally comes on. By the way, apparently Michael Wolf, I was talking to him this Saturday. You know the Fire and Fury guy? Apparently in his last book, he talked about us in his book with the DeSantis thing. He says, you know you were in my last book? I said, which part? And Humberto says, yeah, the whole part of DeSantis was in Michael, you know who Michael Wolf, Fire and Fury?
Starting point is 01:04:08 Of course. Out of all the episodes that made it, DeSantis, you were even, Even in Michael Fury's book, you know, but Michael Wolfe's book, yeah. But if you think about it, and not this one, his latest book. So if you think about it, Nikki Haley, she didn't go on podcast. No. Okay, Chris Christie, didn't go on a lot of podcasts. Nope. Okay. Vivek.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Everywhere. Everywhere. He was here twice. Everywhere. Okay. You go talk to Trump, anywhere, anyplace. Democrats? No.
Starting point is 01:04:39 You know what that shows, Bill? Maybe they're scared. maybe they're scared because their policies have holes in them maybe they're scared because you know there has to be gamification maybe they're scared because it's the same old way of doing business maybe they're scared because their policies haven't necessarily been proven right too often
Starting point is 01:04:59 where they're kind of like wanting to sit on the sidelines maybe maybe they're still old school will they feel like you know questions have to be given to them and a guy like you maybe doesn't want to give the questions I don't know maybe you would give the questions I don't think you would Because while I'm watching Bill Here's another take on Bill
Starting point is 01:05:15 Okay, Bill on Trump Rob, do you have that one on him on Trump He almost gets emotional here Watch Bill, to be fair with Bill Because I think he's played a very important role The last couple of years Watch us clip here, go forward Look, I'll say this for Trump
Starting point is 01:05:28 He's got this idea That America is still the biggest swinging dick in the world And we have not used our power As much as we should That's what the tariffs are about We have the power to change of these people's other nations trading practices with us, some of which were out of line. I'm surprised that people went along with it as much as they did,
Starting point is 01:05:51 so he wasn't completely wrong about that. He said, look, NATO hasn't been paying their fair share. I'm going to make them do that. He wasn't wrong about that. And I'll tell you this, one thing about him, that I know, I'm not going to tell you how I know, but a lot of people have seen the same thing. He really does hate war. But he really does not like it when people die in war.
Starting point is 01:06:13 There's four different wars. It's almost like Bill. It's like genuinely for him to say that. That's right. Wow. So you know what, you know what, you know what it is with Bill? They hate people like Bill. Of course.
Starting point is 01:06:26 The left. He's thinking. You know why? Because there's too much reason. Yeah. There's too much reason. He is willing. Go to the power versus four.
Starting point is 01:06:36 For, Rob, if you could, the chart. When he go to the power versus. versus force, Bill Maher is willing and is accepting and is able to reason. They, those are all the qualities they hate. Look at courage level 200. Don't go neutrality. Then go willingness. He's willing to go visit Trump.
Starting point is 01:06:53 He is accepting that he won. He is willing to reason. And I actually think Bill Maher loves America. Wow, he's up there. I actually think Bill Mar loves America. I wouldn't go that far. I don't know. I believe Bill loves America.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Of course. I believe Bill loves America. I believe he's. So what's the point of where it's going to today on original statement with Bill? Well, you know, it's, you know, they're not coming here. They're not coming. There is a reason. There is a reason. Why would somebody? I went and sat down in front of 20 anti-capitalists, a socialist in L.A. knowing the fact that these guys are in college right now, they're being fed everything by the professors on the left. They have every history story. I'm not reading history books like the way they're reading right now. They're in school.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I knew what was going to happen. I'll sit down. and talk to you. Let's talk. What do you want to talk about? These topics, these issues? Let's sit down and talk about it. The people on this side, they're willing to entertain ideas that they have knowledge on, that they're willing to go. The only reason you don't want to go sit down and have a debate with a topic is what? It's not a topic I'm knowledgeable on. Hey, Vinnie, we want you to come and debate why tariffs suck. Guess what? If you do it, you're... I have one or two good points, but I'm not going to... But if they want to debate Tom on tariffs, guess what? Tom should do it. He would do it, right? So the reality of it is, like, this part when even Bill is starting to say something like that, no one is surprised. It's to the point that right now he's giving credits on the tariffs. Do you know China, what China just said? China just admitted that Trump's tariffs are taking a toll on their economy.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Think about that, that they have to finally admit that it's taking a toll on their economy. Let me read this to you. China's economy weakened in July with Beijing acknowledging the impact. of U.S. tariffs, as stated by fooling you, spokesman and chief economists of China's National Bureau of Statistics, which Tom's got a very good point to say about that, who noted the international environment in July was complex and severe with the continued impact of trade protectionism and unilateralism. Official data showed industrial output rose 5.7% euro-over-year, down from 6.8% in June. Retail sales growth slowed to 3.7% the lowest in 2025, and unemployment
Starting point is 01:09:08 and rose to 5.2 with millions of college students struggling to find work. Chinese exports to the U.S. fell 22% in July compared to the previous year amid ongoing trade negotiations with the Trump administration. The U.S. and China extended a temporary trade truce in May for another 90 days on Monday, keeping U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods at 30% higher than during the Biden administration, but lower than the 100% rates in April with Trump administration also closing tariff loopholes like the de minimis exemption and transshipment
Starting point is 01:09:40 through third countries. They're feeling the pain. Oh, tariffs are not going to do anything to China. We're going to pay price for it. Really? That's not what China is saying. Tom thoughts. I'll tell you, I have a few thoughts here.
Starting point is 01:09:53 China was, how many of you out there, and I'm sure there's people out there. Think about this, Vinny. Let's say you have a company and you have one big customer and you really rely on that customer. And they go from 20,000, 20% of your business, 1 third of your business, 40% of your business.
Starting point is 01:10:12 It's like we used to talk to my dad about. It says, remember, in business, if you owe the bank $10 million, you're in trouble. If you owe them a billion dollars, they're in trouble. And so you take a look at this. You have this one giant customer. And then that customer says, hey, we're really having a tough time. We might go into a recession. Who panics?
Starting point is 01:10:32 You're like, oh, my gosh, 40% of my business is relying on this. this customer. Now this customer is in trouble. That's exactly what's happened to China, because underneath China, they had a poor labor market, they have poor opportunities for the next generation. They have a completely mismanaged real estate industry throughout the, you see them tearing down apartment buildings that were built to make mini cities in the wrong areas, and there was no one to live there, and so they're tearing them down. So behind, guess what, was a big band-aid on top of it? Another $10 billion of trade with the U.S. It was a big band-aid. And what did Trump do?
Starting point is 01:11:08 Daddy's home. And all of a sudden, the U.S. exports fell one-fifth this July versus last July. So people want to know, whoa, you haven't got a trade deal with China yet. You haven't got a trade deal with China yet. They'll be here. Yeah. They'll be here. This puts us closer and closer to a deal.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Adam. Yeah, Tom's absolutely right. If you see what's going on, there's slow growth. There's exports have dropped significantly. They have empty ships without cargo. factories are laying off work. I think they actually just played like, let's make a deal to try to inflate these ghost cities with real estate.
Starting point is 01:11:44 They're basically saying, listen, guys, we're going to give you a half off. We're going to give you subsidies. Buy some of these apartments because there's nobody living there. So imagine building apartments all around Nebraska, Omaha, Iowa. You're doing all these cities. And then nobody's moving there. And now they're like, we'll give you a half off. Come work at the factory.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Free apartment. Please. So free, free, free. Where have I heard that before? Communism. So, yeah, Tom's absolutely right. China's going to feel the heat. I don't think they've, like, succumb to the full deal yet, but it'll happen.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Tom, great point. If, you know, 25, 50% of your deals have come through one, what do you call it? One customer. You have a major problem if that customer stops buying. Trump, while this is taking place, says no eminent plan to penalize China for buying Russia oil. Rob, I think you have a clip on this one here. he says that while saying at the same time
Starting point is 01:12:39 semi-conductor tariffs are coming soon and you know how high they could reach according to Bloomberg? 300%. 300%. So what is he doing? Here's him and Bill and Brett Baer. Go ahead, Rob. That Putin comes to this table
Starting point is 01:12:55 maybe in an economic pinch and that maybe the things you've already done have put him in an economic pitch. Is there an economic side to this? as Russia hoping to open up to the world. Well, he lost an oil client, so to speak, which is India, which was doing about 40% of the oil. China, as you know, is doing a lot.
Starting point is 01:13:21 And others, I haven't known there are few countries. And if I did what's called a secondary sanction or a secondary tariff, it would be, you know, very devastating from their standpoint. If I have to do it, I'll do it. Maybe I won't have to do it. Typical Trump, maybe I'll do it, maybe I won't, maybe I'll have to do it, I won't do it. Yeah, maybe I'll do it, maybe I won't do it.
Starting point is 01:13:40 But the reality of it is, this is also leading to once Russia-Ukraine is solved, then tariff is solved. Semiconductors are part of the tariff issue because, you know, that's also him trying to negotiate a future peace deal between China and Taiwan, which China is watching very closely on everything that's going on between Russia and Ukraine. Because China knows their Ukraine is Taiwan, and they're watching that in a way to see what they're going to be doing next. All eyes on Russia, Ukraine, Zelensky, Putin, all of that going on from China's perspective. Tom, your thoughts. Final thought on semiconductors. Make it real quick. Trump cleared the boards of regulation and to allow semiconductors come back to the United States.
Starting point is 01:14:26 They want TMSC, Taiwan, a semiconductor company. They want to be here. A factory was started in Arizona under Biden, as a matter of fact. the Chips Act. But now what Trump is saying, you know what Trump is also saying, he's putting the American semiconductor industry on the clock saying, you said you were going to build your factories here, get on with it. Build, build, build, build, build, build, because as soon as he puts the tariffs over there, it's expensive, unless they're made here. That's right. Now, you know, part of this is also, you know, Apple, 600 billion, all these other companies that made the promises,
Starting point is 01:14:59 pressures on a lot of people because he's moving faster than businesses are. And businesses are not accustomed to the government, you know, White House moving faster than them, but there happens to be an entrepreneur in the White House who's accustomed to moving fast, and they're not fans of that. But let's go to the next door here. Redistricting. Okay. So Democrats released proposed new California congressional map.
Starting point is 01:15:24 And while this is going on because Newsom said, you know, he's going to finish him. That's Newsom's claim. He's going to finish him. So Newsome leads California redistrict plans. revealed in a leaked map. Rob, I don't know if you have that or not. If you want to pull that up, I'll read the story. So, and then Schwarzenegger had to say something. So here we go. Democrats, led by Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, submitted a proposed California congressional map to counter-Republican-led redistricting in Texas. Earlier today,
Starting point is 01:15:55 the DCCC submitted a proposed congressional map to legislative public portal with collaborative input from stakeholders and legislation. We anticipate this proposal will have widespread support both among California office holders and various stakeholders across the state. The map targets five Republican incumbents, which is Kevin Kiley, Doug Lamalfa, Darrell Issa, which we showed this last week, Ken Calvert and David Vallado to create five blue-leaning districts aiming to neutralize Texas plan to gain the five GOP seats. Gavin Newsom pushing for November special action set. do five seats, we can do five seats. Framing it as a response to President Trump's Texas strategy,
Starting point is 01:16:37 Rob, go ahead. Is this a clip or an image that you're showing? Sorry, this is the map that they was leaked over the course of the weekend of the redistricting. Got it. And can you show what it looked like before? Yeah. Is there a way to put them right next to each other to just kind of see what areas they're focusing? Tom, while this is happening, Tom, is that the one? Are you able to put those two together? Is that it? So if you watch Clow... Oh, this is massive if they're doing this.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Yeah, you have to look up by Reno. You see Reno where the Nevada bends up there? Take a look at what just happened. So that's real redistricting taking place. Yep. Yeah, they literally are taking a pencil and going through it. There it is. There's something about it.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Is that salamander, Pat, you were showing us, that gerrymandered. By Vegas. See, they're making it bigger and closer to Sacramento and taking out all of the red farmers, along the Assyras. Yeah, so that's going to replace five. 545 because California knows they have the power to do so. While they're doing this,
Starting point is 01:17:40 a former somewhat rhino Republican governor named Arnold comes out and is mobilizing to oppose Newsom's push to temporarily scrap the state's nonpartisan redistricting commission stating in a social media post, I'm getting ready for the gerrymandering battle while wearing a t-shirt saying terminate gerrymandering Schwarzenegger, who championed the commission's creation through constitutional amendment in 2008 and 2010
Starting point is 01:18:08 opposes both Newsom's plan and similar Republican-led efforts in Texas with his spokesperson, Daniel Ketchell, telling political, he calls gerrymandering evil, and he means that. He thinks it's truly evil for politicians to take power from people. He's opposed to what Texas is doing, and he's opposed to the idea that California would race to the bottom to do the same thing. The commission popular among California Republicans,
Starting point is 01:18:29 opinion, polling was designed to remove political manipulation from redistricting, but this is going to be taking place. Tom, your thoughts on this? Once upon a time in 2008 and 2010, the Terminator was there. And you know what he was trying to do? I did some research on this. This was very similar to the Florida plan that congressional districts have to be around cities and be districts that are drawn in a rational way around cities and population groups. That's what he was trying to do. And This was a nonpartisan redistricting commission that Newsom wants to scrap. I wonder why. So think about those two points, Vinny.
Starting point is 01:19:08 You have a guy that said, hey, Florida's doing it right. That's not exactly what Arnold said. But Arnold said this plan was right. It happens to be what Florida does. Let's have a nonpartisan commission. So if anybody wants to do this, you know, we keep it sane so that the representation is around the people. And that's what Arnold did in 2008, 2010. So he's got the moral authority to speak up and say,
Starting point is 01:19:31 I tried to create a commission on this. Don't do it. This is crazy. And he's buddy. You know, he's losing the battle. Who he's losing. Gavin, the political Citron Center survey found that 64% of California voters want the dependent redistricting commission to remain in charge,
Starting point is 01:19:46 while 36% want to return the authority to legislative control by Newsom and the Democrats. And listen, I know you want to go to Adam. We've got to give credit. We're all about competition in first place. We've got to give it up to Gavin Newsom. California, as of this weekend, leads the nation in unemployment and homelessness. So you've got to just give it to Mr. Both?
Starting point is 01:20:06 Both. I mean, he might win the triple crown this year. Homelessness, number one? Unemployment this weekend, he's number one. Go ahead, Adam. I just want to give him credit. Well, I actually have a question for Pat. Well, the one person who does show up, I know we were talking about how Bill Maher was calling
Starting point is 01:20:18 the Democrats sort of weak and woke and they won't show up. The one guy that will show up, unfortunately for most people, is Gavin Newsom. Gavin with the good hair will show up. and he'll just spew his nonsense and slap people around Vinny's mockery that he does of Gavin, but he'll show up and he'll just spew his lies. What I want to understand from you, Pat, and even both you guys, you guys spent a lot of time in California. I think you were there how many years, Pat, 20-something years?
Starting point is 01:20:45 What are you hearing from people left, right, and center about this whole redistricting thing? You know, I don't spend a lot of time in California. We were just there, so I don't have a lot of boots on the ground. What are you hearing from average folks in California? about this registration thing plan. Honestly, it's irrelevant what I'm hearing from the people because, you know, it's what he can do and what he cannot do, okay?
Starting point is 01:21:09 So whether people want, of course people don't want this. You think liberals want this? They don't want this. They're already 43-9. By the time Gavin's going to be done, it could end up being 48 to 4. Do you know what that means? 48 to 4, I think it would put him number one above everybody, okay?
Starting point is 01:21:31 If not number one, it'd be number two, but it's going to be up there. Representative. As a big state dominating everybody else, he'd be ahead of Illinois. 48 to 4. Do you know what 48 to 4 means? Let me talk to my good friends in California, the Armenians and the Syrians that will be soon moving to Boko Ritone. But let me talk to you guys real quick, okay? You know what that means to those of you guys that go to sleep every night, praying for California to be a red state,
Starting point is 01:21:56 During your lifetime, well, you're not taking advantage of Social Security, meaning you're not going to be in your 70s. And you're 40 watching this year. You're saying, oh, you're going to turn red. Maybe it may. What this says is, if they go 484, how are you going to do it? How are you going to do it? How are you going to do it?
Starting point is 01:22:14 They're going to do everything in their power to change the state. They got destroyed in 2024 election. every county in California voted more Republican than Democrat in 2024 election according to charts that we've seen many, many different times, right? Every county, they got destroyed. It is the most embarrassing. Look at that, 2020 to 2024. It is the most embarrassing moment during, who was the governor in 2020 in California?
Starting point is 01:22:41 Wasn't it a guy named Gavin Newsom? Who was the governor in the state of California in 2024? Wasn't it a guy named Gavin Newsom? And then he's out there while this is taking him. place. Play the clip of him talking about on this one podcast, but watch this clip here. Nobel Peace Prize. Look what rhetoric he's doing. You just
Starting point is 01:22:58 go to my ex-account, Rob. That's all you got to do. You'll see it as the third clip. You watch this guy. He's a pro. Trump broke these guys. Watch this real quick. Go ahead. It is about the United States of America. He doesn't believe in that. He believes in the Red States. He's going after. He's a war. He's a
Starting point is 01:23:14 wartime president. He's the head of a war party. War on women. War on voting rights. War on Hispanics. This doesn't work anymore. A war on this state. War in institutions, iron war, war in history. I mean, this is serious. This guy's trying to get a Nobel Peace Prize.
Starting point is 01:23:27 This is serious. That's what he's going to try to say tomorrow in Alaska. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the big guy trying to find peace, really? When he's bringing war to the American people, he put military in the streets, not a Baghdad. He didn't send the military in his first administration anywhere in the world. He sent the United States Marines into the United States of America in one of the bluest cities in this country in Los Angeles. one of the great cities, American cities.
Starting point is 01:23:51 That's what Donald Trump did. Look at them. That's all the various. Wait, but keep this in mind while he's doing this. Rob, can you go to the tweet? I said the following. I said they go up a little bit if you could. There you go.
Starting point is 01:24:04 Right there, Rob, just right there, zoom in a little bit. Fear poor no longer works. It may work in California, but not nationally. Trump broke the party, Newsom. You even try to move to the Senate, but your party has a leash on you. Unfortunately, they seem to own you. Good luck.
Starting point is 01:24:19 So this approach, you know how people say, well, it's going to be running for 20, 20, 20, and all this other stuff. This is not going to work in America in 2028. No. It's just not. Because you're in the space. If I, who knows more about basketball than this guy, if I watch stats, if I watch stats, if I follow, if I'm in the game of giving feedback on sports and games and trades and all this stuff,
Starting point is 01:24:44 and I don't follow the most important stats that out there, if I don't follow it, What else am I following? Newsom, your world, the stat is polls and polls from CNN, not Fox polls. CNN polls disagree with you. How many lies did you just make right there? Okay. When you go to National Guard, Tim Waltz pulled National Guard on George Floyd during COVID, going around with, you know, pellet or what was it?
Starting point is 01:25:13 Paintballs. Paintballs shooting up people that were coming out. Your guy did that, Tim Walt. Okay. You, you guys at that. Fear porn on war and the different claims that you're making, it's not going to work. So these guys, this is going to work, California, 48 to 4, to all the Californians that are watching is that your governor. And I'm getting a bunch of messages. This person's going to run. That person's going to run. This person's going to run. This person's going to run. This is your last shot, California. Whatever you do, you best be involved in this next election.
Starting point is 01:25:45 you all best go knocking on doors for your candidate that may be flipping the state you best go out there and get to work you best do your part because if you don't this becomes 48 to 4 guess what Nevada is an option you got Texas is an option and Boca Raton for the Armenians and Assyrians is an option you'll see how many Armenians every week I see so many people that come and say hey Pat I moved you I watch a video hey Pat I move you I'll watch you Hey man, I just want to let you know. No, I didn't move here because of your video, but I moved to Florida. You know, so I'm done.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Hey, man. Awesome. Our cigar lounge, boardroom. Shout out to the boardroom cigar lines. Sick. The new platinum lounge is insane. Our members, like, immediately, our membership was a Rob. Can you go to a boardroom, cigar lounge?
Starting point is 01:26:33 You know how many people are in there that are just business people that want to be free? Who are what? Who are people that are robbed? Just go to the page, home page, where you were at. Yeah. You know how many people that are just. just coming there. They're like, I just got out of California. I left this. I left the blues. I left New York. I left that. People are coming here. And they're talking to one another. But you're going to
Starting point is 01:26:54 see, if this guy goes and gets the 48 to 4, it's going to be very, very problematic for California for a minute. So California for a minute. You best do everything in your power to go up against this guy. Tom. So words talk number scream. I got nothing to add to that except the numbers. If it's 48 to 4, California. That means your Republicans have 8.3% representation. And that's what he said he was going to do, 17 to 8%.
Starting point is 01:27:22 And in the last election, it was 39.6%. So there's almost 40% of you voted in the election and Gavin Newsom is going to screw you down to 8.3% representation in Congress. You know what?
Starting point is 01:27:41 I think we'll see another way of people leaving California. Because you want to talk about authoritarian dictatorship. That is the numbers of authoritarian dictatorship. The right comparison with the 8% would be 17%. Because right now the House, Republicans have 17% of the House. He's going to move it to 8%. The 39.6 is what they voted on the election of the Republicans.
Starting point is 01:28:03 But it's getting more. So let's just say you vote 39.6 for the president or whoever. And you're underrepresented by Congressman. Who cares? Who cares, right? Go ahead. Vote for a Republican president. Vote for a Republican governor. It's irrelevant.
Starting point is 01:28:19 You know the laws for gerrymandering in the state of California? I think in California you can change it once a decade. And once it's changed, once a decade. You know how long you have to wait? A decade. So the next time you want to change a gerrymandering to refix it, if this goes through, which it most likely will, 2035.
Starting point is 01:28:37 So between now in 2035, the part I love about California, they're so patient. They are some of the most patient people I've met in my life. Good for them. No, seriously. Yeah. You know, when your nobility and patience goes together. You want to meet a patient, noble man, go to California.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Go to California meet a Republican conservative family that's extremely patient that they believe it's going to be fine. So one day Ronald Reagan's going to resurrect and he's going to run again in the state of California. He's coming. He comes soon to California. I met a couple. They didn't seem patient.
Starting point is 01:29:08 They were very busy packing moving boxes. Yeah. Patiently. You got that one, Tom. A little offensive, but that's a different story. Go ahead. P.B.D, since you want to test my basketball knowledge, you know who Gavin Newsom is at this point, he's the Lakers between 92 and 96.
Starting point is 01:29:25 He's Sadell Threat, your boy. He's Nick Van Exx. Don't talk like you know who said El-Trie. Don't talk to me. Don't talk like you know, NBA, Tony Smith, Cedric Sabalas. Don't talk to me like you know Eddie Jones. He's Cibon.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Don't talk about Florida State. He's the best player on the world. team on a proud franchise. If you ever say anything about Saddle Treat, I swear to God. Say something. Say something. Guys, guys, there's kids watching. Saddle three will never be.
Starting point is 01:29:53 By the way, Rob, can you pull up the tweet that's been going on about Newsom and J.D. Vance? Just go to Newsom's tweet, Twitter account. Click on that right there, Rob, that says Newsom, the handle right there. Watch this. He reposts on saying, I missed that scarf. Go a little bit lower. Keep going, keep going, keep going.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Right there. So click on that tweet. Yeah, so that's Gavin Newsom in high school versus J.D. Vans. What a douche. Okay. So that's Gavin Newsom in high school with the scarf, right? He's got the hair. He's got the look.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Oh, yeah. By himself. Versus J.D. Do you know what this picture is going to be? It's going to be everywhere. Because what they're saying is 2028 is these guys going up against each other. And Newsom retweets it. And what does he say when he retweets it?
Starting point is 01:30:37 He says, I miss that scarf. Okay. And it gets 10 million views, 150,000 likes. And it was just 10 hours ago, which means the Dems, Pritzker's not going to get this many retweets and likes. Go back on the tweet on and let's read what the comment section says, by the way. Because that's J.D. Vance. Go a little bit lower. See what it says. I love infinite third world immigration. Now, great point. Vance has a kid named Vivek. Okay. So Gavin's two marriages, one divorce, self-confense, adulterer, J.D. one stable marriage.
Starting point is 01:31:06 J.D. served four years as a corporal and U.S. Marines. Iraq, two medals. Gavin's zero military service. Gavin, under a undergrad degree only, J.D., master's degree from Yale. J.D., number one New York time bestseller, author Hillbilly clergy, mooched. Became Oscar award-winning film, has made a self-made millionaire. Gavin, no talent, mooched his millions from Getty and donors. JD, this disciple of Christ, honest man, Gavin worships abortion, Satan liar. By the way, what I'm trying to show you this is to know that's what's going to be on the news
Starting point is 01:31:40 in two years from 27, 2020. Go a little bit lower. You're in spit, in what would, in spit, little musing about choosing Jayden's a pile of horseshit that deserves to be torched fury. Of course, I'd pick J.D. Vance. You insufferable, kale sucking elite. Okay, go down. That guy's really angry.
Starting point is 01:31:57 I love that guy. He's my kind of guy. And he gets angry. My kind of guy. Send that guy a free angry patriot shirt. Which he's never been able to disooged in this lodge in liberal elite Marin County, California. the other, born into poverty to an addicted mother, worked hard, served our country, and achieved the American dream.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Thank you, J.D. Vance. Be ready for this, but I'm telling you, a wild car is going to be Marco Rubio. It's going to be the wild car. Can we go back to that picture for a second? A wild car is going to be Mark Rubio. Go to the top. I mean, obviously, I don't want to stay at not. You guys are focused on the scarf.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Good for Gavin. Let's focus on the chicks. Was it a bathtub? Let's focus on the chicks with, you know, fill in the blank who are using the urinal. This is the poster child for what's going on in California. the trans women who are basically going to the men's bathroom. Disgusting. The irony here, this is a joke.
Starting point is 01:32:45 This JD, I assume, being funny, ha ha, chicks are using urinals. This is literally what's happening in California, not in Ohio. But the point here is, guys, this is what's going to be everywhere in 2020. This picture you're saying? This is going to be everywhere in 2027, 2020. But you think that'll affect JD? No, I'm just telling you what's going to be there and what they're going to be used. Awesome. They're going to be showing this 2027, 2028 all over the place. Everywhere, you're going
Starting point is 01:33:16 to be seeing this. This is before social media. So, you know, that's when you could do whatever you want to do with that. Meanwhile, let's go to this next story. I want to go to this next story we got with nobody's buying homes, nobody's switching jobs, and America's mobility is stalling. So economy, this is a Wall Street Journal story. So let me get to this real quick. Page 13. Here we go. Americans are moving to new homes and cities at the lowest rate on record with only 7.8% Americans relocating 2023, down from 9.8 in 2019, 20% and 19, wow. In the 50s and 60s, 20% of Americans were relocating to different areas, okay, driven by high housing cost and stagnant job market.
Starting point is 01:33:59 The frozen housing market prevents grown families like Brandon and Catherine, who bought an 1100-square-foot home in Summit, New Jersey, from upgrading due to scarce, large homes and doubled mortgage payments at current rates, with Brandon stating the plan was to stay five to seven years, and then we'd upgrade to our family grew economists, including Chang Tai Singh. Man, I totally butcher that, but from the University of Chicago, note that this immobility link to expensive housing weighs on U.S. gross domestic product as a limit job opportunities and earnings. The job market has slowed with hiring quits and layoffs activity in white-collar industries drop into the lowest level since 2009, and the probability of workers switching employers
Starting point is 01:34:43 falling from 2.8% monthly in 1990 to 2.3% 2020s, according to Philadelphia Fed Data. This is pretty wild. So Massachusetts is due to insufficient relocation, assisted in high-cost living stating, this is an engineering grad from University Penn. Moving to Massachusetts, but almost no money is very difficult. and instead found a job in Fort Worth, Texas. Tom, what's going on here? What's going on is there's a couple things.
Starting point is 01:35:09 First of all, we need to be building more. We need to be building more houses, but we need to be building them around areas where we get jobs. Where jobs? Well, how about Arizona? We build a giant semiconductor factory. And so that's what we need.
Starting point is 01:35:23 We need this. This is the hangover from the Biden administration for years where nothing started. This is just a terrible hangover from that. And what you have here, and when they were telling us that they were jobs being made, but Vinny, remember that? They were recounting all the restaurant and amusement park and all the hospitality workers that went back to work after COVID.
Starting point is 01:35:47 And they said, oh, look, I created all these jobs. Oh, and then we found out all the jobs numbers were suspect, and then Trump fired the head of the fake job numbers. Okay. So what we have right now is we have an economy where, where people are looking for jobs and are looking for places to buy. Which really interesting right now, if you take 100 people that bought homes,
Starting point is 01:36:11 take a wild guess, what percent of those you think is a first-time buyer? Say it one more time. 100 people buy a home. How many are a first-time buyer? Oh, no. 90 percent? No, it's 24. It's 24.
Starting point is 01:36:27 Oh, no. 24 percent. No, 90. No, no, no, no, no. 24%. Why do you do this every time? Hey, Vinnie, one plus one. Yes, why did you do this?
Starting point is 01:36:40 Kentucky. No, but it was 30. Go wild cats. It was 38%. You go back to the late 90s. It was 38%. Now it's only 24%. So, and there's four things.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Late 90s was 38% to now 24%. Correct. Damn. So here's the four factors. Number one, the cost of the house. and interest rates going lower, helps people be more affordable. But number two, if the house is more expensive, you have to check, that leads to higher property taxes
Starting point is 01:37:15 and higher insurance. And insurance is being adjusted up because they're changing risk in places like coastal Florida, like, sorry, your homeowners insurance is going to be a little bit higher because of the hurricanes. If you take a look at it, ready for this? In Florida, they collected 50% more property taxes than four years ago. And in Dallas, just in Dallas, they collected 33% more property taxes.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Now, the headlines will say they raised property taxes. No, they didn't. The houses became more expensive. And then when you buy a house, you pay the property tax based on the price you paid for the house. So what does America need right now? Bill Pulte is right. We need interest rates to go. go low. And it looks like we're going to get 3.25 rates, uh, cuts in a row starting on the 16th
Starting point is 01:38:05 of September. Then the next fed, next fed, so get three quarters of point to now and the other cut. That's good. But we also need job creation like factories coming back to America, which is exactly what Trump's trying to get. And then we need homes, affordable starter homes to be built in those areas. So we need supply. So we need supply and we need a job growth. And both of those things Trump can't do overnight, but he's putting things in place, and he's pushing really hard. But until then, it's a tough job market, and it's tough for people to find starter homes.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Adam. Guys, go buy a home. It's expensive. Interest rates are high. You'll pay taxes, you know, mortgage rates, your maintenance, your HOA. Who cares? You also don't have any money for a down payment. Go buy a home.
Starting point is 01:38:54 It's the best investment you'll ever make. Go do that. Adam, maybe you're here. Some sarcasm from the guy who's been yelling from the rooftops, don't buy a home. If you don't have a family or you're not permanently living in a city, it is at this point the worst investment you can possibly make. And again, I'm sure I'll hear it from the realtor crowd. There was a book that I read back in the day. It was called Who Move My Cheese?
Starting point is 01:39:20 You guys ever read this? Yes. What was the basic premise of the book? Tell us. Success goes to those who adapt. You're ready for it? adapt or die you don't have money for a home buddy you don't have a job that pays you enough for a home the one constant in life is change what the world is telling you is maybe it's not my time to buy a house
Starting point is 01:39:40 wait till interest rates drop wait to have a better job move to a different city stay flexible if you have the money go for it if you're just trying to figure it out like viny it is save that money and rent okay so again to the community that's uh 46 years old, drives an Uber, and is single. Doesn't want kids is just kind of chill and relax. I'm not 46, bad. 45 years, I just want to let you know, phenomenal advice. No, but also if you're 26.
Starting point is 01:40:11 If you're 26, it's also great advice. And if you're 36. I don't know about that. I don't know if this applies to 100% of people. When did I ever say 100%? No, but when we say 36, it doesn't apply to everybody. Because to me, I've never lost money on a house I bought. never but i made way more money taking my money and putting into my business thank you not even
Starting point is 01:40:31 close but the average person isn't that the average person doesn't have uh you know half a million dollars to put into a business and 13 years later the average person doesn't have any money right now the average person that doesn't have any money right now but there are people that are working that have a wife have kids and they would like to own a home to those to those who are in that position and your trajectory isn't one that's going to go from a $63,000 your job to a $200,000 your job. Your $63,000 and 10 years could be 92. I'll let you say in 10 years it could be 101 and then 10 years later it's going to be 173 in 20 years. Let's say that's the trajectory. You're going to be better off going to a community that's an up-and-coming community that is,
Starting point is 01:41:23 going to be lower price place for you to buy. That's what it's really going to come down. So you have two choices. Have a smaller family, or if you want to have a bigger family, go to an area where cost of living is less. That's really the choices you got. A lot of people in Dallas, Rob, can you type in average value of home in Frisco in 1995?
Starting point is 01:41:43 Average value of home in Friscoe, 1995. $248,000. No, I think it's going to be lower than that in 1995. It's going to be probably $85,000. Okay. There you go. Median home, 1990. That was 114,000. Damn. Okay. How much is it today? What is the average? What is the average? Same exact question, except in 2025. In Frisco? In Frisco. I don't think it's 700. But I think it's going to be
Starting point is 01:42:07 375. I'm going to way. So it's going to be six. I seven. Seven. In Frisco? Exactly. So by the way, check this out. If you would have bought a house in Friscoe in 95, 30 years later, you have $560,000 of equity. That's where this argument loses. No, because I'll tell you where, if you were to put that into your stock market or 401k, you'd have over a million dollars. No, you would not. Yes, you would. So let me finish with the statement.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Yes, sir. You're using it purely at a 12%. The part with this house argument, and I'm not a realtor, I can't believe I'm defending realtors because of your ludicrous argument that you're making. No, I'm a sound judgment. I'm a finance guy. What I'm trying to tell you is notice that even the arrogant financial guru here said that the 114 in Frisco is going to be $320,000. His reaction to what it is today's 672.
Starting point is 01:43:05 So now let's do the math. What do you think is going to be in 30 years on Friscoe? You think it's going to have the same kind of growth that it had last 30 years? No, it's not. So I'm not telling you move to Frisco. What I'm saying to you is what is the next Friscoe? What is the next city that's being built that you can go in? because your value today and the income you make
Starting point is 01:43:23 doesn't allow you to go buy a house this big. Look at Fort Lauderdale. Five years ago, 2019. You know what the median sale price of a home was in Fort Lauderdale five years ago? Go to 2019. Pull up the same exact argument, Rob, if you could. Five years ago, 2019.
Starting point is 01:43:42 In 2019, it was three, that's the marginal income from Florida. The medium investment, that's not right. Yeah, that's what it was. In 2019, it was 365. Today it's what? Today it's going to be $700,000. Let me see what the numbers, if you pull it up for today.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Today it's going to be $6802,000. So it's doubled in six years. If something doubles in six years, you're getting 12% rate of return. Are you going to get that every six years in Fort Lauderdale? You're not, okay? But in Florida, the challenge with Florida is the fact that people are moving here from blue states
Starting point is 01:44:18 like New York and Illinois, you can be strategic about it. That's all I'm saying to you right now. So if you're somebody that has the ability to buy, be strategic about it. Don't be reckless about it. But if you're somebody that 90% of your savings is going to go into a down payment of a house
Starting point is 01:44:36 and that's it, you're going to be stressed out. Do not do it. Don't do it. It's not for everybody. Don't take your entire down payment to buy anything if it's the savings that you have in a bank. So there is a part of the argument that for a 26-year-old or a 45-year-old who is an Uber guy,
Starting point is 01:44:54 no wife, no kids, relaxed, chilling, and join fun, very minimalistic mindset, yeah, that also makes sense. But if you're planning having a wife and kids and you want to find a way to increase your network the next 5, 10, 15 years, no one philosophy applies to everybody. Just be a little bit more strategic about it. Go ahead out of. Well, thank you for the personal reveals.
Starting point is 01:45:17 However, what percentage of- Reveals, the world knows the reviews. Okay, good. Well, thank you for reminding them. Yeah, go ahead. I appreciate that. You know, you're married, four kids, respect. I'm trying to help you.
Starting point is 01:45:26 I'm trying to help you as a bachelor. You want to be my realtor? Is that what you're saying? I would never. I will hire you as my realtor, Adam. I've had so many. I did five minutes with Pat, 48 minutes later.
Starting point is 01:45:38 If you're Adam's realtor, holy shit, you better have a therapist with you. Guys, don't ever ask a follow-up question in a meeting with Pat because the five minutes goes to 45 minutes, and you're labeled an overtalker. What percentage of people who wear it well? What percentage of people? Tom, should follow my advice versus your advice at this point.
Starting point is 01:45:59 I'm saying for the average person, do not buy houses are... It's not your advice, Adam. This is an advice that I've been given for 20 years, that if you're an entrepreneur and you have something that can have a higher rate of return than a house, don't buy a house. I've been saying this for 25 years, and I've lived it. Okay. So my idea is I've lived that life.
Starting point is 01:46:21 I agree. Right? Okay. But for the person that is not, and they're in their career that you may be moving, don't lock yourself into something for five to seven years because you may move. If you move, you buy a house. You're locked in to that area. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:37 But for everybody else, if your resources allows, you ought to entertain it. Not for everybody. What percentage of people, though? I don't think this, as a guy that's done and has sold. 750,000 life insurance policies in the last 20-something years and has had tens of thousands of clients that we've sat down with. No two cases are the same. It varies. Age of kids. The temperament of the marriage. Are the husband and wife pretty good together? Do they think they're going to be together? Is it constant chaos the last two years? If it isn't, you both know that this is not going
Starting point is 01:47:11 to be working out. You may not want to buy anything together, right? And I try to work on your marriage. Is she getting demoted? Is her job going to Wait, does she have a job that asks? There is no black and white answer to this. It's such a complicated answer. The only thing I'm telling you is there is no 100% black and white answer to complicated case like that today.
Starting point is 01:47:30 I agree with you. I've never said that it's black and white or 100%. What percentage of single people, you're not married, you don't have kids, different lenses, I totally get that. What percentage of single people should go out there and buy a house today? What do they do for a living? They make $80,000 a year. How much cash do they have in place?
Starting point is 01:47:49 38 grand in the bank. Yeah, I'm not buying anything. Okay, I agree. Yeah. Why not? Because 38, you know, if you buy anything with the average price is $500,000, you need to put 20% down. Let's just say you put 10%.
Starting point is 01:48:03 You can't even afford to buy house. Now, what percentage of Americans do you think fall into that category? You're single, you're 30, you make 80 grand, and you have 50 grand to your name. But you're asking a question of like this, Vinnie. If you're 47 years old, handsome, you take care of your body, you're funny, should you marry an 87-year-old who's single? I mean, what does she do for a living there? That's how Adam's asking this question. No, that's so unfair.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Palm Beach is what we're going. So should Vinnie buy a place right now? I don't want to do 20 minutes on the story. If it's no pre-in-up, I'll go. All I'm telling you is no two stories is for everybody. Who said that? Let's move on to the next. I'm going to go to a Vinny's story.
Starting point is 01:48:50 I don't want to stay right here. Vinny. Yes, sir. Israel cyber directorate. Oh, timing. Employee arrested in U.S. on suspicion of pedophilia. Yes. Let me read this and I'm going to come to you.
Starting point is 01:49:03 I actually really want, I really want Adam's opinion on this story. If you show a picture of me right now, I'm very upset. No. Tom Ardiam. Alexander. 38, a senior employee of Israel's National Cyber Security of the Court was among eight men arrested in Vegas and FBI joint operation
Starting point is 01:49:19 targeting online sexual exploitation of minors with police stating we would like to remind parents to discuss with their children the dangers of engaging with strangers online Alexandria charged with felony counts of luring a child with a computer for sex acts was booked
Starting point is 01:49:34 at the Henderson detention center and released on $10,000 bail returning to Israel and placed on leave as a cyber director noted the employee updated the director that during his trip to the United States he was questioned by the U.S. authorities on matters unrelated to his work
Starting point is 01:49:50 and he returned to Israel at the planned time of return to the operation conducted after two weeks also arrested David and a few other guys, all these other names. Go ahead, Vinnie. So, okay, so, by the way, this isn't just some low-level tech nerd.
Starting point is 01:50:04 This is the acting head of data and AI for Israel's national cyber directory. He works directly under BB Netanyahu, okay? And that arrest, Pat, that's sting operation which was the FBI, Homeland Security, and Nevada police. They targeted these sex predators. He was in town.
Starting point is 01:50:21 Remember that time we were in Vegas? They were doing that hacker, a black hat. Hacker, it's the biggest hacker conference in the world. He was there. He's a part of AI. He was booked at Henderson Detention Center in charge with a felony for luring a child online for sex.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Okay, that normally goes from one year to 20 years in prison. But the next day, and just like, I think a couple of the guys as well, because there's eight of them, posted a $10 dollar bond. And despite he has zero diplomatic immunity, he got to go back to Israel. Netanyahu's office put on a statement saying that he was not arrested.
Starting point is 01:50:54 He was only questioned, but multiple sources. Guys, The Guardian, Jerusalem Post, Israel, Times of Israel, and all confirmed everybody, including the Henderson County. Rob, you have the police actual arrest that I put? That's him, okay? He was really booked. This is no BS hearsay. He wasn't the only one caught.
Starting point is 01:51:16 Among the other suspects was Pastor Neil Harrison Creasy of Redemption Church in Las Vegas. Weird. He was also arrested in this thing. He resigned from his church shortly after being released from the same 10,000 Arban. Here's my only problem, guys. If you're a foreign national and you're trying to lure a child in America to have sex, you don't post bail and leave. Normally, Pat, because I did a lot of research, your passport is seized, your travel is restricted, and you're considered a flight risk, okay?
Starting point is 01:51:47 The fact that he was let to go back to Israel within 24 hours means somebody, federal government, I don't know, Rob, can we try to find out who is the district attorney of Henderson County? And that's actually a really good question in Las Vegas. It's just weird, Pat, you can't. None of those other guys, even if they posted bail, you can't leave the country. Because who's to say that you're not going to be able to come back? You can't just leave. They're supposed to take your time. Do you know, like, you're supposed to take your passport.
Starting point is 01:52:17 Yeah, there's flight risk. Bail is directly related to flight rest. Like Diddy, they said he's got all these private planes. He could go to Belize. He could go to somewhere. Remember that? Yeah. Now, he was acquitted of many of the charges and are some of the smaller ones that he was guilty of.
Starting point is 01:52:31 But the whole discussion about Diddy's bail was flight risk. Yeah, we don't want you to leave the country. And it's just. More importantly, we want you to do. to show up at the appointed time for your trial. Yeah, and exactly, because who's to say, like, and I don't they have, there's a watch group called the Jewish Community Watch,
Starting point is 01:52:47 which is tracked over 60 people who are accused of sex abuse, who fled back to Israel. The activists have said the real numbers, like around 100 with rabbis and teachers and all that stuff. There's a case of Malca Leifer, L-E-I-F-E-R, who fled to Australia in 2008 after, to fled Australia after was abusing more than 70 girls, Okay, 70 girls, and this just shows you that Israel can drag out the extradition, because
Starting point is 01:53:14 we have an extradition treaty, but sometimes they're like, now we'll deal with it here. She wasn't sent back until 2021, and only in 2023 she was finally convicted. So here's my thing. Who gives the okay for someone who was arrested for that? Say the other story you said about Australia. So, okay, so Malca Leifer fled Australia in 2008. She was alleged for abusing 70 girls She went to Israel
Starting point is 01:53:40 She was an Israeli citizen And they kept her there And she didn't come back to face Authorities in Australia Till 223 I mean Israel didn't release him Israel was like They kept them
Starting point is 01:53:53 They kept them there So your argument here is How do you leave? Why did they release Where is he at now? He's in Israel Now where is he today? Tom Alexander In Israel They let him go back to Israel
Starting point is 01:54:04 And he's on leave There's an alluring child. He was going to release custody, has a return to Israel. Okay. He's on leave, but he's not arrested. Adam, what's your thoughts on this story? First, I'm hearing it. But what's your point?
Starting point is 01:54:15 My point is how when anybody charge a foreign national, anybody, if right now, God forbid, one of us got in trouble for something like this, which I'm just being, you know, I'm just playing devil's advocate. Your passport and everything is, every single one of those eight guys, your passport has to be taken at him because right now you're charged for trying to have sex with an underage. kid, which, by the way, that, that, what they were trying to do was 16 or under, actually it was under 16? You can't, you could, what's to stop you from leaving the country and never coming here to face the charges? Because these are serious. I'm, this is a serious felony
Starting point is 01:54:48 charge, especially as the freaking number one hacker guy, which horrible at his freaking job for covering his tracks. How was he allowed to leave the country in his passport not frozen? What do you have thoughts on this? I, I, I, a couple things. You said a couple words here. We always, we always are very careful to be very fair. Of course. So right now these, he his questions, and these are allegation pending charges, but he wasn't charged. So it appears that somebody that works for an Israeli government agency gets into some, you know, alleged trouble over here and gets detained for questioning, also known as arrested, regarding sex, you know, and solicitation of sex trafficking with minors. Yes. He does not get indicted.
Starting point is 01:55:35 And he just goes back to Israel at the appointed time. And the outrage that you're feeling that I see is, wait a minute, did the Israeli government have a guy working for one of their departments that gets into some allegations and some hot water here, and they just get him back to Israel and say, look, he's not going to be charged, let's get this guy out of here. That's what it looks like to me. He'll be careful with charge.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Okay, I just want to read you this. According to the Guardian, okay, felony charges confirmed, Nevada authorities have officially charged him with a felony, lowering a child with a computer for sex act, a serious offense under Nevada law. Yes. His case was detailed on official court documents and report by reputable news outlets. His biography confirms he was charged in a $10,000. Okay.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Perfect. Then we were correct this article from Jerusalem Post. I'm glad you're doing that, Tom. I'm glad you're doing this for sure. But the question becomes this. if it's charged so Nevada releases him
Starting point is 01:56:36 on $10,000 bail which is not a lot of money so he's trying to lure a child and nothing has happened that they've caught no mind you
Starting point is 01:56:47 this was a sting operation that they've been trying to get these guys eight of them for FBI Homeland Security so it's a sting operation he thought that he was going to hook up
Starting point is 01:56:58 with an underage child so they catch them in this thing they arrest them them they charge them because of this report we've seen those things and the guy like 10 guys come jumping out of the apartment and yeah pin you down and yeah and mad you i tried looking up what the other six did pat none of their job i wanted to put everybody on blatz rob could you grab the all of them so we can show all eight of them show all eight of the guys one of them like i said is a pastor he's been he's been fired so now these are all the other ones are american so they're
Starting point is 01:57:26 here you post the bond you have a court date just like i'm pretty sure this tom guy has a court date but he's back in Israel, okay? You shouldn't be able to leave this country with a serious felony charge like that period unless somebody was like, hey, listen, this guy works for our government, he works under, you know,
Starting point is 01:57:45 Bibi Netanyahu, we got to get him, we got to get him back. Why did they let him go? You tell me, Adam. That's my only question. So, um, I do have feelings on this now because it,
Starting point is 01:57:54 it's, I hear what you're saying. I know how passion you are about pedophilia. If this guy allegedly did what he did, throw this scumbaggy. jail. I know. But here's also the problem that I have. It's Israeli cyber director headline. Here we go. Oh, by the way, there were seven other scumbags that were arrested again. One was a little bit of pastor. Seven other guys. We don't need to talk about them. Let's talk about the Israeli guy. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Okay. Because no, I'm just saying like, it's not it. It is it. No, Adam, because you know what? Those other seven are booked, charged, and they have to go to court and they're going to probably go to jail. Okay. So maybe you become an international lawyer. and figure out what the relationship is with Israel and Nevada. I don't know. What I'm saying is this. Multiple people were booked. Multiple people allegedly did this.
Starting point is 01:58:41 And the only one we're talking about is the Israeli guy. And if we want to go down the rabbit hole of who the goat of pedophilia is, look no further than the Catholic Church. So I'm not sure what game you're playing right now. Okay. But if you're trying to make it out like. I'm happy you went there because this is the problem. This is the problem that you can't address is.
Starting point is 01:59:01 I addressed the problem. He's a scumbag. You said, no, no, but you said, you said, everybody. But you fell for the headline. No, no, no. And Adam, you're getting emotional because you're making this. No, no, because Adam, I'm responding to a freaking headline that was all over the news on the weekend that I saw on my own. I saw it all over.
Starting point is 01:59:18 Who wrote the headline? Who wrote the headline? There was a bunch of different outlets, the Guardian. This one that you're reading. The Jerusalem Post. Exactly. The Jerusalem Post is actually. Adam, why is it?
Starting point is 01:59:29 Calling a crime out where it should be. No, it didn't. The Jerusalem Post said, oh, he was only held for questioning. This was came from BB's office saying he was only questions. The article you just read. Okay, guys, let's do this. I'm not trying to make a five-minute story, a 20-minute story. Let me tell you where I'm out with this here. It's very simple for me.
Starting point is 01:59:50 Okay, and by the way, I'm the guy that interviewed the new owners of Pornhop and called them out, and it was one of the worst PR stunts that they did here, and it was a terrible look. and I brought the other lady, Micklewaite, right after that interview, and she went after them. So I have no tolerance for stuff like this with kids whatsoever. Both things could be right. If this guy did this and the other guys,
Starting point is 02:00:13 because I pulled it up right now, so what is that crime in the state of Nevada? Okay. In Nevada, what happens if you do similar crime to what Tom Alexandrovich did? Loring a child with a computer for sex set falls under Nevada revised statutes of 201, 560. 201-570. Here's how it works.
Starting point is 02:00:31 It's illegal for any adult to use the internet, text messaging to other technology to lower attempt, persuade a minor to engage sexuality. Category B, if convicted using a computer network to lower child sex sex at classified category B, one to ten years in prison, up to $10,000 is fine. A conviction generally requires mandatory registration as a
Starting point is 02:00:47 sex offender. Da-da-da-da-da-da. Okay. So that's that part. Now, why did they release him? Of course, we're naive if we say it's not because he's tied to the government of Israel. If you are that delusional that you can't say there could be
Starting point is 02:01:03 the influence that BB made a phone call and said, no, he's getting out of here, he's coming to us, and he's going to be judged here. True, that's that. Three, you think BB is happy the fact that he behaved this way? You think BB needs another story like this? No. So you think he's just going to go back there
Starting point is 02:01:15 and say, good job, buddy, keep doing it. No. That's also not the case. So all of those three could be right, but a part of what Adam is also saying is right, because there is a community that all day, there was a comedian that did something that I was looking at, a Persian guy,
Starting point is 02:01:30 I don't know who he is. He did this, which was very funny. He's showing a guy that's preparing for a podcast and he's looking for stories. And he tells a story, what's the story? Well, what country has committed the most crime? Well, Syria, well, Egypt, where this, or that? No, no, what other country?
Starting point is 02:01:45 Well, this, what? Well, there was an Armenian that got hurt in Israel. That's the story we have to talk about. Put that at the top of the story. So there is also this thing where the community that has completely been sabotaged, that the only thing they search for is, what can I do to talk shit about Israel?
Starting point is 02:02:03 That's also there. And by the way, I have no problem with that. If that's the story that person wants to die on, go at it, make your search engine to just show you stuff that's bad about Israel. I can sit there and also do the same for a lot of different people, but that's why I'm still reading the story
Starting point is 02:02:18 because I want the audience to say, this is what you want to know more about. You ought to know it. If he did that, the guy belongs in jail, and make sure everybody in prison knows what he was trying to do so they can do to him what he was trying to do to another minor. I'm supportive of that.
Starting point is 02:02:33 Let's go to another story and then we'll wrap up. Any story that you guys really want me to come to you that we haven't covered yet. If not, I'm finishing the podcast. Rob, let me see what I had in my notes. I thought I had something, Rob, that I wanted to show from the videos. Did you see which one it was that I wanted to cover, Rob? Let me just go to it, guys.
Starting point is 02:02:52 Give me one second here. While you're looking at Pat, did you see the guy, The Abu Mosa, the belt mallet dropping. Give me once. I want to show this one thing, which I freaking love. And the reason I want to show this is because this is two things I want to show. Rob, I want you to have this one. Oh, shit, I got a facilities meeting.
Starting point is 02:03:12 There's two things I want to show. Rob, show this one. Who's your favorite guy? Freed Zakaria. Okay. So watch this Fried Zakaria, what he does to Rahm Emanuel. Just watch this, folks. Go ahead, Laigrant, too.
Starting point is 02:03:25 To be fair, this is actually... I was being fair. No, no, this is a huge Democratic Party problem. If you look at Democratic cities, they are terribly run. They have incredibly high taxes. Former mayor of Chicago. It is impossible to build sort of the cost of housing. Let me finish.
Starting point is 02:03:41 Let me finish. Cost of housing is crazy in places like New York and Chicago. If you look at Democratic states, you know, look, you go to look at New York versus Florida, okay? Roughly the same population. The budget of New York State is twice that of Florida. What do they have? The streets paved with gold? I live in New York.
Starting point is 02:04:02 I pay the highest taxes in New York. You get nothing for it. And I think that is the image people have of the Democratic Party. Lots of taxes, lots of regulation, but nothing gets done. Hey, I live in L.A. I live in L.A. And I think, you know, listen, if the Democrats have to own this and realize the answer,
Starting point is 02:04:23 to do everything is not more tax, with more regulation. People are at least for better. They feel that it isn't working. The Democrat. How uncomfortable was. Very. Did Rom Manuel? Did Rom respond?
Starting point is 02:04:34 Well, you go watch the whole show. I just have the clip. But the point is, it's getting to the point that there are those reasonable Democrats like him. And I know, Adam, this is your guy. So I wanted to kind of tee up if you wanted to say something on this, that he is sitting with the former mayor of Chicago, whose brother runs, you know, Ari Emanuel.
Starting point is 02:04:52 they made a whole show about this guy saying it to his face on billmore adam i mean facts don't care about your feelings everything he's saying is accurate it sucks uh the best cities in america are blue the best cities historically in america are blue new york l a san francisco chicago every major city is blue but as we're seeing the the woke get woker and weirder and all these policies high taxes crime homelessness every cost of living cost of housing all of a sudden people are going to be moving out of these cities and go into red states where's the most migration happened to florida texas nevada to an extent tennessee at some point if you can get up and move you don't have to buy a house you can rent
Starting point is 02:05:39 you're not going to sit and just sustain all the trauma and drama that a blue city provides you it's not fun okay i want to give one last shout out to harle canard okay if i'm saying your name correctly brother i want to give that shout out so here's harle can art can you go to a story please go to a story and let's just kind of keep going through some of these stories he's going to be so surprised we're doing this you don't know if it's victoria you're probably wondering what i'm doing next story and then stay right here watch this 18 hours of driving of listening to pbd podcast on binge we need an Aussie version of this show look at this whole look where he drove to where and he's watching this podcast from Australia, okay?
Starting point is 02:06:23 I don't know who's watched it longer and listened to it longer. I don't know if I can listen to myself for 18 hours, but I just want to give you a shout out to our friend here who listened to it for as long as he did in Australia. That's awesome. Just so you know folks that watch the podcast, whenever you post the stuff on stories, whenever you wear the future looks bright hat, the shirts, whenever you tag us, any of that stuff when you posted in the pictures, we see you, we just wanted to give a shout out to you. tell you much love from Fort Lauderdale
Starting point is 02:06:53 all the way out to Sydney, okay? And I don't even know what the time zone is. Just want to give you a shout out. Go ahead, Adam. Well, I've actually made that drive before. I've driven from Sydney to the Gold Coast. There ain't much going on there. Byron Bay, Brisbane, everything out there.
Starting point is 02:07:08 Made that drive. So shout out to you. What's his name? Harley. Harley, shout out to you. I assume he's moving to a less woke, less expensive city. Go back to see him. I want to get his name right.
Starting point is 02:07:20 or Harley? Harley. Harley. Fantastic. By the way, we're starting to see all these cities crumble. By the way, Australia is number two on Meneck. I don't know why. But Australia is number two. It is for whatever reason. I get a ton of Mnakes from Australia. Really? Guys, God bless. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. We will do it again. And remember, VTWebinar.com, register for the webinar 4 tomorrow 6 p.m. Don't miss this. The 20 threats businesses can't ignore in 2025.
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