PBD Podcast - Trump's HEATED Call + AOC's Data Center Deep Dive | PBD #804

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, Ilan Srulovicz and Vincent Oshana break down Trump’s heated call with Netanyahu, Reza Pahlavi calling out Trump, Raul Castro’s indictment, SpaceX’s blockbuster IPO, Zuckerberg’s leaked audio, Jeff Bezos blasting Zohran Mamdani, AOC’s attack on AI data centers, and the San Diego mosque shooting.------🧢 FAITH OVER FEAR "HERE AM I, SEND ME" HAT: https://bit.ly/4tLSTw9💬 TEXT US: Text “VAULT” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates on speakers at The Vault Conference 2026!🦁 THE VAULT 2026: AUG 31ST TO SEPT 1ST: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🇰 KALSHI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Guys, a lot of stuff is going on. I don't know if you know this or not or Vinny, but yes, was a busy day. There was this guy who was not happy about what happened yesterday. I'll last couple days. You know how you, like, who do you like to go to a baseball game with? Be honest. Who do you like to go to a baseball game with? People like you that like the team that I'm ruling for, people

that love the game. What game did we go to recently? The world, like we went to... Oh, the World National. Who played who? Dominican Republic against Venezuela? Venezuela. Juan Soto hit a home run, you know, Willa. Guerrero hit a home run. It was just sick, right? Don't you love going to games with people you love? Of course. You know why the last

couple days was bad? Why? Barack Obama can no longer go to baseball games with Raul Castro. What? Oh, no. His buddy? He's definitely because they went to go to games together with communism. And now Raul Castro from Cuba got indicted. Dude.

I don't think that's cool because, listen, there is something special about you going, you know how you're sitting here like a past a hot dog. Yeah. You know, hey, tell me how much you love about taxing everybody, right? And make the shit about his sport. Isn't it great? He loves that. Obama can't do that anymore.

Unfortunately, on behalf of the DOJ and FBI who is going after a baseball game. A ball game, a pack of salemes, talking about imprisoning conservatives, you know? Yeah. And what's he going to do now? That's behind him. So now then, yesterday, a recording leaks from Zuck that is telling the engineers, hey, we want you to keep coding so the AI can learn how good you're coding so we no longer need you, but in return, to be fair, which Tom said it, in return, those people to share their skills with a skill set,

got something that they obviously agreed to because long-term they can make it. a lot of money. I let Tom reveal that to us in a few minutes when we get into it. Yesterday, SpaceX, you know, IPO, there's a South African guy that apparently is, once this thing is done, will be the first official trillionaire in the world, causing Bernie Sanders to change the script. It's no longer millionaires and billionaires. He has to now say billionaires and trillionaires. By the other way, that's coming to a singular hearing near you on what's going to be happening, but we predicted this four and a half years ago that Elon's going to be the first trillionaire in the next two to five years. And we are here now, folks. We have a trillionaire

in the world. I think a lot of other people are behind the corner. Guy named Bezos did an interview. We talked about it a couple days ago, even yesterday with Steve Hilton. I think Bezos, either has gotten so good with the camera. He absolutely crushed this interview with common sense. We can literally watch every single clip, whether how he broke down firing the people out Washington It's a clinic on how a CEO should handle criticism and firing people. The way he went one by one by one by one, fantastic. We'll cover that as well. It's funny.

One trillionaire and the other guy is soon to be one. Maybe soon to be one. He's got some work to do, but he's also doing this thing. He's probably benching three plates at least eight times. What do you think? You think Bezos can bench three plates eight times? I think that TRT is doing it. It's doing really good.

Maybe it's a little bit more than TRT. Maybe there's a little bit of GH. Maybe there's a little bit of Primo Ballin. I think he's doing some stuff there. He's looking good. There was this phone call. And I don't know if I should even show this. It's, it was a podcast done between Bibi and Trump.

Okay, so that's, I don't want to show that. You have to because nobody's, nobody knows that they did it. I'm not showing that. But what I will show, I'm not going to show that. But what I will, and I don't want people to, because it's going to be, it's going to be a lot of stories that's going to be circulating. I'm going to, there was a phone call between Bibi and Trump that things got testy, that Bibi said, now listen, anytime somebody says something like this. I am 50-50 where it's like, look,

if you don't attack first, they're going to attack first. Give me a flipping break. But that's what Bibi said. Bibi said, hey, Trump, if you don't attack first, Iran is going to attack first because our intel's telling us that. So you have two camps

when somebody says something like. The one side is what? Okay, maybe they have Intel, let's attack. What's the other camp? It's like, hey, Vinny, you know what she said about? What? I don't want to say what she said about you. Let me tell you what she said about you.

Was it good or bad? Horrible. What? If she would have said that to my face, I would have slapped her. That's the kind of a phone call. Got it. So now you have to either believe that she did say that or you have to slap her. Like Sean Connery said you.

Sometimes you got to do it, right? Now, next, the Iran war powers vote, okay, where they came out and said, listen, what do you like it or not? We're taking the nuclear uranium enrichment. We're taking that away from you. What do you like it, we're going to take it away from you? And Iran comes back and says, Trump's threat is, you better do something or else. He says Trump's not going to do anything.

That's what Iran is saying. I mean, that's like talking shit right there, right? You're not going to do nothing is the kind of situation they're out there. We'll see what it happened. Soft bank surges 30% open AI. Tom's got some insight on how Japan is now taking control of some of the bigger companies of what they're investing in. We'll talk about that.

Ilhan Omar and Amy Bach, B-O-C-A-Mach, great name. she is facing how many months did you say 512 months or some 500 now why do they say it like that why can't you because is it so you can't say 42 years like you want to scare him I'm going to put you in prison for 3,790 days just say 10 years yeah why don't you just say 42 years 500 months Vinnie is what they got and I'llan Amar had nothing to say about it

Tim Walts was hiding and Nick Shirley a little 22 year old innocent guy that just going out they're asking questions is causing people to resign, quit and get fired and go to prison. Can you imagine that?

But what he does is not effective. No, what he does is not effective. He's not a reporter. He's not a snitch. Not a snitch. But I'm not a snitch. Yeah.

So, okay. And then we got, I don't know if we want to go into the Thomas Massey story. It is what it is. Maybe we will. And then we got Hunter Biden did a podcast with Candice.

There's a clip that he finally Rob admits that the laptop is real, but the cocaine's not. He would never touch cocaine. I'm a crack guy. I'm not, you know, he's not a cocaine guy, right? He says, I don't touch cocaine. I touch crack. We may get into it.

And then Kyle Bush, out of nowhere, we hear the news. One of the most exciting drivers at 41 years old. Are you kidding me? He goes into the hospital. Nobody knows there's a bunch of different speculations. Nothing crazy, nothing out of the ordinary, but just that's it. And Rob has a clip that we have to play on him saying, you never know which one's going to be your last race,

and we literally never know what's our last day of doing anything. It's why we've got to be grateful and do the best for what we have. And then we have to talk about Resopalavi from Iran. Made a comment. A little bit of a shot at the president. A little bit of a shot. It seems like he's getting frustrated because this regime change and regime collapse is not happening, and he's now getting upset at Trump.

And I don't know if that's a good strategy. I don't know if that's a good strategy. But that's a strategy he's taken. He's almost making it very clear that Trump's not going to do it. anything with him, but what I do not like on what they said, a bunch of pansies, FIFA, that they don't allow Iran's flag from back in the days under Mohamed Reza Shah Palavi, the father, the OG, the guy. They're not allowing people from Iran to bring that flag to the match at World Cup. I don't like that move. I don't like that move at all. If I want to bring

that flag, allow me to bring that flag, but they're not allowing that to happen, which I get, you know, you're trying to not make it political. You don't want to create controversy. in chaos, fully get it. They're making responsible decisions. The flag is banned? The flag, the previous flag of Iran that the Shah had, they're not allowing to bring. So how do they get enforced that? They just won't let them. They'll take it away from you. If you put it up

here, give it to me, I want to take it away from you. They're going to bring it, Pat. Well, listen. That's the move, by the way. I'm part of the community of let the boy watch. I'm part of the plums, right? Bring the flag. Right? Bring the flags. Please bring those flags. We'll talk about that. And then we never got into the Jake Paul, Dana White,

Rhonda Rouse, Gina Carano, Netflix, the numbers, record breaking. We have to address that. Elon's going to talk about that. I got some thoughts on that as well. AOC decides to go to data centers, and she is indirectly converting some conservatives into her fans. And I keep talking about it. Hey, don't rule her out as somebody running for president in 2028. And then we, of course, have to talk about the San Diego shooter and a manifesto that they wrote.

What a weird set of stories there. Devastating. You go to a mosque and you shoot in. people, and then you read the manifesto, and it says what they're all about. What a weird set of events that took place there on the things that they're doing. So we'll address that as well. I know Vinny, Ilan, you guys have some insight on that, and then we got a few other stores, God willing, we'll get into it.

It is a Friday, so we'll have some time. But with that being said, we got some special. Let me tell you guys before I turn it over to a guy that you guys all love, according to the survey we did. You guys love him so much, but I don't know if you love them that much yet, and I'll tell you afterwards why, and I've got a challenge for everybody. but I do know you love them a lot. Last time we did a hat that came out,

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What does that mean? What does that mean it gets testy? Rob, I think you got a couple clips on that one there, but I'm going to go to page 8 first. So, and this is not a phone call from the Daily Mail. This is not an article from the Inquirer. This is an article from Wall Street Journal. What do you mean Trump and Netanyahu hold a testy call over Iran? President Trump and BB held a contentious call Tuesday evening.

People familiar with the matter said with Netanyahu Raylink against a pact to end the war with Iran, and Trump defending the diplomatic process, Israel has long expressed skepticism that Iran would abide by any agreement to dismantle its nuclear work and refrain from attacks on regional nations. Netanyahu reiterated those points with Trump in a Tuesday call and an earlier one on Sunday, the people said Trump was unconvinced telling Netanyahu he would continue to pursue an accord that prevents Iran from ever acquiring a nuclear weapon. Trump added that Iran faced fresh strikes if it did not show more flexibility in the talks. Rob, is this the recording?

No, this is actually President Trump being asked about the call. Okay, go for it. Go ahead. What if you said to bring for the prime minister? It's fine. He'll do whatever I want him to do. Very good, man. He'll do whatever I want him to do. And he's a great guy. To me, he's a great guy.

Don't forget, he was a wartime prime minister. And he's not treated right in Israel, in my opinion. I'm right now at 99% in Israel. I could run for prime minister. So maybe after I do this, I'll go to Israel, run from prime minister. I'm 90. I didn't see this. So that's good.

But no, he's a wartime prime minister. I just don't think they treat him well. Okay, so I'll continue here. Speaking to reporters, when Wednesday say, Nadia, well, welcome, Gavala. Asked later when he was close to making a decision on Iran, he replied, it's right on the borderline. We have to get the right answers.

It would have been a complete 100% good answers. They have been a fury of high-level diplomatic. activity this week between mediators, including Pakistan. So anyways, you see something like that, Elon. What do you think about? Number one, I do think if I'm just going to look at this objectively from Netanyahu's standpoint, I do think that he sees this as one of the last ditch attempts to be able to have the United States back them in a heavy, you know, act in Iran. Because after Trump, it's game over for that kind of involvement. I do think that Trump does have a lot of influence over Netanyahu. Regardless of what people say, he's demonstrated his ability

to taper him back when necessary. Trump's in a pretty hard place with this. When this all started, I really, really believed, even selfishly, biasedly that regime change could happen. That was like my dream for this. That's off the table for me in my mind now. And I think Trump sees the reality of the situation. Sometimes you go into a situation wanting one thing,

you come out realizing a victory is something completely different. I think Trump does see that a victory in this situation is something like a long-term limitation on Iran's ability to be nuclear, the destabilization, if you look at the Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Middle East has a totally different... The 20 years, because he said he's open to the 20 years. I don't know if you saw that or not. He's open to a 20 year where they're not dealing with anything with nuclear for 20 years. Well, the question is, will Iran actually abide by anything like that? And the truth is that most likely they won't, but at least there'll be some degree if you can put the measures in place

to be able to monitor. It'll be a much safer Middle East than it is now. I think Trump is playing a very, very, very tightrope balancing act between appearing strong enough to not appear weak, but also not drive us into a full-scale conflict, also while appealing to people who are pro-Israel, but also appealing to isolationist and populace. And then when you say, Elon, you know, because we thought this, we thought regime change. Remember the New York Times article, they said that they were in the room and Beebe and Mossad was on, you know, Zoom or whatever, and that when they left, they said that this is, like, they warned the president, This is what Israel does.

They oversell and underdelivered. So I think he was in there and, you know, he was told it'll be quick. It'll be Venezuela. And he, you know, he believes the people around them, the people that want the best for him. But I think in this situation, Trump, and it's frustrating, Pat, because I think Trump is trying to prevent this thing to keep going and going and going. But Bibi wants more escalation. If you think about it, too, negotiators are getting killed. You know, and Trump's trying to figure out a path for a deal, but here's my thing.

What else is BB.B. I know we were talking about, you know, getting rid of the plutonial or whatever, the uranium, the uranium, whatever that, whatever's going on. But like, what else does BB want? What else? Bro, their navies at the bottom of the sea. Their nuclear capabilities decimated. The infrastructure's hammer. We keep killing all the leadership.

And the only thing that bothers me, Pat, is the relationship that we have with Israel, they're saying, come on, come on, do it. If they do go strike, what do we do? We have to back them. That's what we've all. It's history repeats itself. We keep going. If they do something, we do. back them. So I love the fact that he's obviously arguing and pushing back and saying like,

bro, like, relax. Can we have a freaking peace deal? Because what's the objective? And I love that you said that. There is going to be no regime change. They're killing us on the freaking straight of Hormuz. It's like, bro, we want this thing to wrap up and hurry up and finish. So I disagree a little bit with Vinny on one thing. The advisors are around Trump. I don't think they want what's best for him. I don't think they want at all. I think the warhawks want war and they want what they want for the military industrial complex. I think foreign lobbyists and Israel wants what Israel wanted. And I think a lot of people are in that room and it got pushed. And I don't think he got good advice. I don't think he got good advice at all because all you do is look at it.

Okay, the plan for the war, what happens? Step one, step two, step three. What actually happened? So either the advisors were wrong or we got beat. I don't think we got beat. I think the advisors were wrong. Second, you know, the one thing that I look at is, if all the things we talk about are true, oh, we've decimated this, they're navies at the bottom of the sea, they'll end up, well, then why isn't there a deal? If we've really got them all the way by the throat,

down on the floor, why didn't they tap out? Why didn't they take a deal? And now we've entered the world of a world I don't like. Well, at least, put that in quotes and look at how many times that's going to be said over the next three weeks. Well, at least they don't have it for 20 years.

Well, at least they give up, you know, maybe the rocket boosters. Well, at least China's no longer giving them rocket fuel. You just wait. That's what we're going to get because that is a sign of backing off on where this is going to be. And the thing that bugs me is how this shifted. First we said, hey, I see you there. Don't hang those three boys.

Don't do it. That's a red line for me. And help is on the way. Then it was, well, they have nuclear ambitions. And within a couple weeks, they could have a nuclear weapon. and we don't want that, and it shifted. So there was a speech about the people. Then we shifted there.

And now I sit back, who's talking about the people? Nope. Nobody's talking about it. The IRGC is going to commit political genocide. They are going to go for their enemies. They're going to imprison them. People are going to die. And tell me that these people waited 47 years for this.

Yeah. That disappoints me terribly. And Pat, not to, may I? And I'm not saying, Tom, the advisors that I was talking about, was Pete Hickset was in there, General Kane, Rubio and John Rackcliffe had a CIA. We're trying to tell him like, hey, listen, you know, weigh your options, but we still did it. Those are the advisors that I was talking about. Did all of those say this?

And the New York Times article said that they did? All of those ones you just listed. Yes, I could. Rubio and Hegseth both said, you know, be careful about this. Maybe we don't want to do this? Yes, and General Cain said something as well. I'll find out of direct quotes. So here's what I've read and heard about this.

in a situation like this, guys, let's face it. It's not everybody saying, let's go to war and everybody saying don't go to war. We're sitting here talking about issues and we don't agree on all issues. So, hey, what do you think we should do? And then you make the decision. He made the decision.

The president made the decision based on the information that he had. So the onus is on the leader that made the decision and he has no problem with it. He'll live with the decision. And don't forget what word he used as everything was taking place.

What is the most important word he used in war or any of the issue? other issues. It's a word that starts with the letter F. He says, we're going to stay fluid. Very, very simple. Everything's going to be fluid. Maybe we'll do it this way on this one. Maybe we'll do it this way on this one. And by the way, sometimes you attack, and then things are not what you expect it to be. And then you have to adjust and pivot. That's what leaders have to do in life. It's not like every time it's going to be the same thing. Hey, here's how I'm going to handle this situation. So I don't know. But what I do know is, if you notice the way he talked, he's so good

doing this, where he say, yeah, he's going to do whatever I tell him to do, whatever I tell him to that he's going to do. But at the same time, guess what he's a great guy? Remember, he's a wartime leader, but he's going to do whatever I tell. Matter of fact, if I'm done him with us, if I go to Israel and I run, I would become the prime minister. Look at the way he makes sure the world knows I'm the charge, you know, head, you know what, in charge. I'm the guy that's running this. I'm the guy that's running the show here. Go ahead, Adam. Bingo. You know, I have not been following all the nuance of the day-to-day, the whomews. I mean, you'll drive yourself crazy with that.

But the last thing you said is exactly where I would have started. The first thing you said, it goes, he'll do whatever I want. Straight up. I laughed out loud because I saw the humor in it. I saw the realness in it. I saw the chiding the, oh, no, yeah, you think BB owns me. Are you kidding me? Kind of flex.

And, yeah, I'll do whatever I want. Now, granted, Israel and U.S. are on the same team. They're allies, correct? Is that a controversial statement these days? Their allies, they have different interests in the region. Don't forget, American wants to get in and out of this asshole country. Forgive me, and move on to China. China pivot.

Hello, we know that. He just literally went to China. But Israel has to stay in that region. UAE has to stay in that region. Saudi has to stay in the region. All these neighbors, Kuwait, they're the ones. telling, asking Trump, don't start doing epic fury, keep the economic fury. But here's where I want to go big picture and I'll go super quick.

Bibi gave an interview about a week ago. I don't know if we addressed that on the podcast. An hour and a half real interview. And here's what I took from it. So for all the Israel haters, like what's the number one thing you hear? We've got to stop funding Israel. We have to stop funding. Bibi goes, yeah, sure, let's do it.

Yeah, 10-year plan. Deal. Because it's $3.8 billion a year that, and I'm not going to get too nuanced here, about... 80% you buy back, weapons for Moz. It's weapon buyback, guys. That's all it is. He said, sure, we don't mean it anymore.

By the way, he also said, whether you like it or not now, since October 7th, praise for impact. Israel is the now most powerful, richest country per capita in the Middle East, and it's not even close. The innovation, the tech, the defense, the entrepreneurism, the startup culture.

It's crazy what they've done there. I mean, juxtapose that whatever's going on with countries that only have oil or don't even have anything, including oil. But the last thing I'll say is this, Trump is in no rush to do a deal. And this is where you and I sort of disagreed. You said June 14th, I said probably after July three months, it's not a big disagreement. But I think Trump, at the end of the day, you've used this term before, he's kind of floating at this point. He's kind of like, he knows what he's doing, he's been doing this 10 years. he's not going to get caught up in the headlines

and he knows exactly where he stands. Rob, is this the clip on him talking about Iran cannot have enriched uranium? Go ahead, Rob. Can they keep their highly enriched uranium? No, no, we get the highly enriched. We will get it. We don't need it. We don't want it. We'll probably destroy it after we get it,

but we're not going to let them have it. Yeah, there you go. So that's kind of what his position is there. And by the way, while this has taken place, Reza-Pal-Levi, who's been sitting on the sidelines, waiting for a regime change or regime collapse so he can come in and be the transitional leader. And I've never seen him talk like this about the president, but he showed a little bit of emotions here and running out of patience.

Go ahead, Rob, if you want to play this clip. I can not send mixed signals on the one hand said people need to rise and at the same time say, wait, we are negotiating. It's confusing the head out of everyone. Do you want to see U.S. boots on the ground at this point? I think that the best way to articulate this is to say that, and that's something that we have said, that the boots on the ground in Iran are the Iranian people themselves.

We don't need to have foreign troops doing the job for us. But in order for people to be emboldened and have a fair fighting chance, unlike what happened in January 8th and 9th when they were massacred to the tune of over 40,000 people in less than 48 hours, how could you expect the people to be the elements on the ground if they don't get the appropriate protection? or cover. We can only call to this action by people being on the streets again when they have that level of an equal fighting chance, not by the regime can deploy their thugs to murder people on the streets. That's why we needed to have the air campaign. That's why we needed to have the aerial protection. And I think that's where it can generate the element on the grounds that will not require the useful part.

So here's the question. You can pause it right there. You can't say, you know, go back to it again, Rob. Go back to the first part. first part of what he said, exactly the first part on what he said. If you have the clip, you can play the first 10 seconds. Go ahead. Send mixed signals. On the one hand, said, people need to rise and at the same time say, wait, we are negotiating. It's confusing the hell out of everyone. Okay, pause it right there. It's confusing the hell out of everyone. Who are you talking to? You're talking to Trump. Okay. What authority do you have? What authority do you have?

You know, I've sat on the sidelines hoping for you, and I've not been critical. I've sat on the sidelines to see what's going to happen. How come no military leaders are, you know, choosing to side with you? Why not? So you say you don't need U.S. Because the boots on the ground are the Iranian people who are getting slaughtered. And the Internet's been out. What did Wall Street Journal say yesterday?

More than any other country. Yeah. Longest in the history where the Internet's been out. Where is it at? Longest in history. So can you go to that story? Longest internet blackout in the history crippling Iran's economy. Why can't you call Elon and ask for Starlink?

Why can't you? Where's your diplomacy? Maybe you're not good at building relationships with people. Maybe you are. I don't know. How connected are you? Are the military guys looking at you and saying, that's our leader? We don't need Trump.

I will convert. And I'm going to go help resop palavi. How come that's not happening? How long have you had so far? How long? I don't know. So to me, when you say mixed signals with the president, what he's doing, the audience who is supporting you, what mixed signals are you given?

You keep saying you've got military people on your side. Where are they? Where are they? Go ahead. People come into streets are like, well, you know, is there any way you can unite and back him up? I'm like, I've been quiet. I just want him to go do his thing. Listen, I'll celebrate it and say,

kudos to you. And we'll put a nice picture and say, hey, he's the guy that got the job done. But where is your military guys showing up for you? Why not? Why are they not shown up for you? I thought you were connected. 47 years you've had.

Every few years, this is the closest you've ever been. Do it without the president. Do without the president. You claim you don't need the president's help. Go ahead. Do it. We're all waiting. Go ahead.

We'll root for you. How come it's not happening? So what do you mean? You can, it's confusing as hell. It's confusing as hell to your audience. Who are you to say it's confusing as hell with the president? What the hell are you doing? So no, I'm not a fan of saying it's confusing as hell.

Your audience should be confused as hell on all the promises you made. Go on the streets. Now go back home. Go on the streets again. Now go back home. Go on the streets. We have military defectors that are turning and they're going to come in. Where are they?

Where are the defectors? Show me. Show me the baby. Where are the defectors? Okay? Your story. Your confidence, you're going out there to media saying they're going to do this. We don't need the president and all this other stuff.

Fantastic. Because this becomes two different things. What Trump is doing is what's best for America. That's his job. That's his duty. His job isn't what's best for you. His job isn't what's best for any other person. people than America first. He's trying to do what's best for America. Now, the secondary is

what? Of course, he doesn't want issues in the Middle East. He will like there to not have that kind of an issue that they're dealing with. But 90% of the onus is on you now. We've been following. People are, Pat, just leave this one alone. Leave this one alone. Let we know what we're doing. Where is it? Where is it? Go ahead. Well, you know, you've got to be more patient. The Iranian people that follow Resa Pahlavi have got to be the most patient people in the world. You've been waiting for 47 years. I don't have that kind of patience. Good for you.

No, no, he's the guy. He's this, he's that. Where is the doing? The doing. Not the talking, the doing. So yes, these are two different separate issues. Trump's got to do what's best for America first. You claim you want to do what's best for Iran first.

Well, then go do it. We're waiting. We're rooting for you. We were like, come on. Watch your interviews, you know, beautiful interviews and French and all these other languages that you speak and very eloquent on the way you deliver your message. But you know when somebody says, what did you say?

Let me call my cousin. You're not going to like you when my cousin shows up. And then cousin doesn't show up for one week, two weeks, three weeks, four weeks. Your cousin doesn't have your back. And then another person says, what did you say? What to my cousin shows up? 30 seconds later cousin shows up. You're like, dude, I'm sorry, man.

I never want to say anything. I fought both types of people. And the one that the cousin shows up, you always respect. Where are your cousins? Who are your cousins? Why are they not showing up? In the streets of Iran to help these 40-something people

that were massacred. That's on Trump or is on you? It's kind of on you. I want to be the transitional leader. It's on you. And by the way, this leads me to many Iranians want to bring the previous flag of Iran. Pre-revolution.

They do. And, Rob, do you see that story where now FIFA World Cup is saying you can't. You can't bring the flag. You know, you can't sport that flag. What do you mean you can't sport the flag? Well, they just announced it.

And what pages this, Rob, 30-something? Pre-revolution Iran flags banned from the World Cup. That right there. Let me give you a guarantee of how Iranian people are. Let me tell you how Iranian people are. They're going to show up no matter what.

They're going to show up no matter what. Don't get me wrong. Security is going to, you can hide the flag in your underwear. You can hide the flag. They're going to try to bring, it's going to be a very small flag if you hide it in your underwear, right? Because if you got like stacked, like they're going to be like, hey, this guy in the adult entertainment business, they're going to check you out. And we know how those Iranian guys are built. Stacked. They're stacked. But let me tell you, flags from pre-revolution Iran will not be permitted at the upcoming World Cup events this summer.

While the pre-revolution Iran flag share the same colors as the current Islamic flag, the original flag, beloved by Iranian dissidents and refugees prominently features a live. and his son and the center following the 1979 Iranian Revolution, according to the athletic, a source close to FIFA confirmed they will prohibit the presence of the pre-revolutionary flag at its venues this summer. Elon, your thoughts on both the Reza-Palabhi story and the flag? Okay, so the Reza-A-Palavi story,

I think you nailed it perfectly when you said that Donald Trump has an obligation to the United States to touch on what you both said earlier, Tom and Vinny, is that the United States has limited the danger that Iran poses to us directly. The 60% enriched uranium could create a dirty bomb, and they demonstrated that they have longer-range ballistic missiles than we previously thought.

So there was a existential threat to the United States. That's greatly limited. Now, Reza Pahlavi has an obligation to his own people if he wants to see change. You're right. You can't depend on another country. And by the way, to say that Trump has been unclear, Trump has taken more action than any president would be willing to take in Iran

to help create an environment where regime change could rise up and actually happen. So he did create the circumstances in the country for that time. As for this right now, the Iranian flag being banned from FIFA. I understand the dangers of, you know, kind of uprising tension in a FIFA game,

which could result in chaos and then people getting hurt and all that kind of stuff. They're trying to limit that. They're trying to keep it safe. But I do think knowing Iranian people that they will show up with their flags, like you said anyway, they'll show up in big numbers. And what are you going to do?

They're going to kick out thousands of people. of people from the stadium. You're going to just start. That's going to create a problem in itself. So they're going to be in a position where if enough people show up with flags, there's going to be nothing they can do. And maybe that'll be a bigger statement overall. The fact that it was banned, people show up, hold it,

and they can't get rid of them than Adam. Yeah. Persian fans out there, bring your flags. If they can bring the Palestinian terrorist flag anywhere they want and do marches in streets of every city, every single day, go ahead and bring your line. and the sun, major respect. The patience things, the flexible thing,

and Pat, I'm going to ask you a question. It's been over 40 years in the last four months, not even. They've killed over 40,000 of their own people. Yeah, this regime has a stranglehold on the people. The foot, future does not look bright on their neck, and you want justice, and you want this overturned in three months, guys?

What do we doing? It's going to take time. Like in any other situation in life when you make an investment in the war. But then last thing, Pat, you just went in, sir. I mean, respectfully, you went. I've never seen you go that hard on the individual, but fair. I actually don't think I went hard. I think it's very honest. I think you claim you have people in a military flipping.

Yeah. Show me the baby. Show me the money. I'm not going to question. That's what I want to. If I tell you, if I threaten you or if I threaten you or, If I give you a lead that I'm going to do something and you're like, let me tell you. Like, imagine if something, oh, I am so connected. I'm going to be able to introduce you to this, introduce you to that.

Oh, really? All right. Eventually, you're like, where are your connections? Where are your contact? Oh, I got money people. Really, where are they? Oh, I am so, you hire somebody and they're like, oh, I can bring good engineers. You're later.

Like, I thought you had all these contacts. We're all your contacts. No, so to me, he is beloved. I mean, don't get it wrong. The guy is beloved by his people. they love him because they have a fantasy. The love towards him isn't towards him. The love towards him is because of the love they have for his father, not for him.

And they are romanticizing with this. And at the end of the day, he has to either show that he is well connected and military folks are out there, great or not. And if you're not, great. Don't get out there and say, you're confusing a hell out of everyone. You're confusing a hell out of everyone. your job is Iran first. You claim. His job is America first.

Are you deliver on your promises? I don't know. Tom, do you have any thoughts on this? This is not on this specifically, but I'll tell you. You know, Nicaragua and baseball players hated the fact that there was the alternative flag. They have the beautiful blue and white flag for Nicaragua, but then there's the black and red Sandinista flag. And when they were at the World Baseball Classic, remember, Nicaragua qualified World Baseball Classic for the first time ever in 23. I think it was first time ever.

And then they came back in 26 with the team. They love that flag that's on the left. And then you see the FSLN. That's the Sandinista. And it represents a time of pain and everything. So this is not the first time that you've had a country trouble who's had two flags going. And you know what? I see what they're trying to do for the World Cup.

They don't want to feel like there's going to be tension in the stands. Just like people that see that FSLN, they think about the Sandinista. and they think about bloodshed and they don't like it. I just want to give you a chance to give the final word on this. Where I want to ask you is the shadow that he's living in under his father. I understand the romanticizing. I understand that he seems like a nice guy. He just has not backed it up with actions.

And I just want to understand from a father, from a leader, some of the respects to father, maybe just encapsulate where he could have done better, where he failed, what his position is, because I don't know this guy like you do and really where he could help at this point because I think you guys all want to get on the same page and free the Iranian people. Yeah, and by the way, I don't want to act like I know this guy.

So I don't know the guy. I've spent 15 hours with him, 18 hours with him. He's had dinner at our house, lunch at our house. I went and visited him in D.C. We had lunch together, a nice Italian restaurant. He's always been very respectful, always. We've had very good conversations together. And then we've done the couple podcasts together.

I've spoken to his team over the U.S. years. I've been working behind closed doors for 12 years to help them. So it's not like I haven't been working behind. There's a lot of things people don't know that I've tried to help this guy out in a major way. I want to see him succeed. I want to see him succeed. I don't want to see him fail. Why the hell would I want to see him fail? Why would I want to my only first cousin in the world lives in Iran? Armenian guy. You don't think I want to, I have one first cousin in the world, one, and he lives in Iran. You don't think I want to see this guy succeed. Of course I I want to see him succeed. But eventually you get to a point where it's like, stop talking.

shit, deliver. It's very simple to me. If you're going to say you're going to deliver, go deliver. And stop now putting the onus because now you know what happens and I want to tell you what his next move could be. Now it's kind of like, oh, say nothing happens with the Iranian revolution and Iranian regime change or regime collapse. Guess who he's going to blame? Trump. Oh, you'll see. You'll see. And that will be completely unfair. That'll be a coward's move. But watch him. He'll be cornered because it's either his fault or Trump's fault. He's always going to be the guy that's not my fault. It's not my fault. It's that person. So it's not my fault. I hope he doesn't take that route. But if he's going out there saying you're confusing a hell out of

everybody, I already see the next few moves coming from. If he did that and I don't have any ill will towards him, I would be, that would be very disrespect to call it. Well, he's already starting in a very subtle way with that message he gave two days ago. So I want to get to the next story. I want to get to next door. We got a lot of other stores to get through. This is one of them that we had. Okay. Next story I want to get to is the following. So Raul Castro, okay, Raul Castro, one of Obama's best friends who they go to baseball games together, and, you know, he would go to Cuba and watch and play. Really enjoyed having, you know, peanuts and hot dogs and just common communism

and, you know, how conservatives and capitalist sucks and all that. They have a lot of things like that in common. Raul Castro officially is being indicted. And, Rob, what page is that story on? There you go. Trump, Castro indicted. Very big moment for Cuban Americans. President Donald Trump called the indictment of former Cuban,

Raul Castro, a very big moment for Cuban Americans who believe. He believes appreciate the indictment. Trump spoke to reporters on the tarmac of joint base Andrews shortly after the acting attorney general, Todd Blanche, announced the indictment. Rob, I don't know if you have that or not. If you want to pull that up, he said, I think the Cuban population, is this Todd Blanche or the president?

This Todd Blanche. Go for it. There's a reason why myself and the senator and other leadership are here and not in Washington, D.C. to announce this indictment. The community here, you all, understands the history of the Cuban regime better than anyone in America. Many families here know the cost of oppression. I've heard stories over the past week and past months.

Every one of them heartbreaking. Rob, is this just kind of giving a story and stuff like this? Yes, I also have the president. No, I want to hear the president, not Todd Lynch. I want to hear what the president has to say in this one. Go forward. Appreciate what the attorney general just. did today and we're just doing now. It's just watching it.

So we have Cuba on our mind. Very important. A lot of problem for a lot of years. This was a big, I think it was a very big moment for people that, not only Cuban Americans, but people that came from Cuba that want to go back to Cuba, people that want to see their family in Cuba, I think there's a very big day, very important day. Now, can we do this, Rob? Who is Raoul Castro? What do we know about Raul Castro?

That is Fidel's brother. That is Fidel's brother. But what did Raul Castro do in 1996? A model of things. The planes. The planes, yeah. There was a humanitarian plane, okay? And who decided to shoot down the planes

that were the humanitarian plane in 1996? The shoot down of the brothers to the rescue aircraft when a Cuban Air Force shot down two unarmed Cessna 337 Skymaster aircraft operated by brothers. to the rescue an organization opposed to Cuban government killing four men on the 24th

February of 1996. The indictment was unsealed and announced by the acting U.S. General, Todd Blanche, May 20, 2020, 26. Now here's a question. Did Obama know this event? 100%. 100%.

No question. Barack Obama knows this event 100%. What is he doing going to a baseball game with Raul Castro? How do you argue that, you know, to go, this is him and Obama right there, sitting right next to each It's not like they're sitting in the same section.

Oh, and also the current president of Cuba in the blue hat right there. Yeah, they're sitting there. Do you not know what that guy did? I don't know. Do you not know what's going on there? Look at the friendly conversations that they're having there, the smiles. You know, hey, this is a guy that literally shot down humanitarian planes. So why would they be this friendly with each other, Elon?

By the way, go back to that picture right there. Do you know what this picture was from? I know what happens when you aim your hand that. low like that. Okay. Hi. Understand this. Barack Obama, this is for you, sir.

Allegedly, you can fact check this. He didn't want to shake his hand on camera. So Raul went to shake his hand because there's a different sitting there versus that picture. You know what I'm saying? That picture?

So he went to like, and oh, there it is. And then he did it. But that's why he did that picture. I'm telling you. That might be a. We've seen Obama. Yeah, we've seen Obama align himself with figures that I would consider extremists from a very young age.

What was it? Dinesh D'Souza's documentary on him showed all those connections back in the day. I mean, this is unsurprising to me. This is not some major breakthrough. Translated Marxist socialist. Yes, essentially. But if we're looking at the bigger story here, I think it's interesting that Trump is trying to isolate Cuba. It seems like he's starting to push for soft regime evolution.

and he does seem to want to make it a more strategic location and look at the effects. Obviously, if you look at the strategic impact, the influence that Russia and China have through Cuba, I think that's his goal there. Tom, what do you think with this story? This is a big story with Raoul Castro. Is it like sequencing we get them first and then we free Cuba? I think this is a very big story and I think it's very big sequencing because right now Cuba, all these pictures of baseball games, everything with Raul, they are, that is, these are history.

and let Americans know what's going on right now. These people are in blackout. They don't have running water in many places because they've run out of generator fuel. So you have a power grid that was powering pumping plants for water. That means water comes out of the faucet and water leaves through the toilet. So basically you have the basics of life. Not great, but at least you have that. Many areas in Cuba right now haven't had that for weeks.

They're carrying jugs of waters from relief stations. Number one. Number two, they have no power. Number three, if you don't have generators at certain government buildings, and that's where our guys went to visit them, it's there. So number one, you could take Rao Castro. Number two, you just wait for this thing to just collapse, and it's about to collapse. It's not big and complex like Iran. This community could absolutely collapse.

And then you can just step in and, you know, elicit leadership change the same way that has been done in Venezuela. I think the next step is here. And I think we're on the edge of a new, we are closer to being on the edge of a new Cuba than we ever were to being on the edge of a new Iran. Yeah, Vinny. I just want to give, first of all, to Todd Blanche, Pat. Like, say what you want. This guy came in.

He's the acting attorney general. He is not stopping. Compare him to freaking Pam Bondi, right, who did absolutely nothing. And you got to give, you know, that's, I'm not going to judge him. Obama likes hanging out with people that murder. people. And he also like sending airplanes of cash hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to countries that say death to America. That's just the kind of people that he likes to hang around. And to me, he doesn't like America. And that's that's a type of action from people that don't

give a damn about us. And I never think that Obama cared about this African country, period. Agree with some of what you said. Some of what you said that we can make the case that Trump will go to North Korea and meet with bad guys. And that's kind of diplomacy. To do what, though, to have to try to make peace. Yeah. But if you're going to go to a baseball game with a guy that kills people, let's a hold... And he was poking him constantly. Little Rocket Man's going to listen.

Yeah. We're going to figure this out. It's not good that he is launching things into the ocean near Japan. There's a little bit different the way Trump talked about North Korea than... Yeah, the intention is... ...obata talked about anybody. I agree, guys. I'm just saying that presidents go to foreign countries that are enemies of ours and they try to do diplomacy.

Yeah, but sending cash and doing... That's a whole different. situation descending. I agree with you. All right. I want to make sure. Guys, I'm just saying, I'm taking crazy bills.

I'm just saying presidents meet with bad people. We'll get a photo off in a pack of Salem. Holy moly around here. All right. But if I'm Cuba, oh yeah, me, he ain't there's one bad thing I just heard. And it's the reason

Trump goes, yeah, Pat goes, yeah, I don't want to hear what Todd Blanchard would say. What does Trump have to say? And what did he say? Cuba? Cuba's on our mind. And if you're a bad guy these days,

and you're on Trump's mind, that's no glue, as the Cuban say. Because who's their best friend right down the street, Venezuela, ask Maduro how he's doing these days, or their other friend, the Ayatollah, how's he doing these days? So the Cubans, the Marxist, the guys who are still doing the revolution somehow, we're still doing the revolution in Cuba. That's what he keeps talking.

The revolution survived. Okay, your people are desolate and poor, have no money, and that leads to Obama. this whole socialist, Marxist, communist, gang, gang is just becoming just so obvious. This is why we have democratic socialist campaigning. Vote for the socialist, guys. This is what America is now? Yeah, on the left.

They're just socialist? The left is openly Marxist. This is what's going on here? To me, that's the bigger story. Why are we cozying up to socialism again as if we don't know where this ends? Yeah, but that's not new. That seems to be a consistent. issue on the left is their love affair with socialism and Marxism and it's just becoming more and more

more scary, more normalized. I agree. Openly normalized where it used to be controversial even on the left. On a touch point on Tom saying that they're waiting for collapse, I think that's a dangerous game just due to the sheer instability that you could cause in the region compared to what I think Trump might be trying to do, which is a little bit more isolation and a slower soft regime change. I think that's one of the options they have. I don't think it's the best option at all. I think the best option is Raoul gets and an Uber, courtesy of the U.S. Navy Seals, and finds his ass in New York in front of a judge magistrate in the international court, and that we figure out how to put in temporary leadership or, you know, a stability leadership,

the way we did in Venezuela. I think that's the best outcome that gets, and that we immediately get fuel supplies for those people. I mean, if you don't think we're thinking about it, why is the USS Nimitz, which is almost larger than Cuba itself, sitting in the Caribbean? Why is it sitting there? What sort of message does that send? Well, but I'm with you. I don't want to just wait for it to collapse

and all the plight and all those people and then have to go clean up mess A, what just collapsed, mess B, you know, humanitarian and get the people back on their... What does Calci say on Cuba wrap? What is Calci saying on how long it's going to take for Cuba to be done? What position, what are people saying about Calci,

about Cuba on Calci? I'm curious. Is there a Calci up there? About Cuba? There has to be. Yeah, of course there is. Just go to Calcian and type in Cuba. Let's see what comes up. Leaves Office. Not the Leaves Office.

Will they announce a trade deal? No, what countries? Marker will be a visit this year? Which countries? Will Mexico? No, it doesn't have anything. There has to be something there are on Cuba. I'm surprised as well.

Just one moment of clarity. Raul Casho is not, and I correct me of wrong, he's not the sitting president. No, no, no, no. It's the symbolic. Miguel Diaz-Kinell guy. Yeah. that he's still doing the revolution.

So I think, fact check this. I think Raul Castro was like 175 years. 94, yeah. Okay. I mean, this guy ain't going anywhere. But I told you already, Trump targets people above 85. Trump likes people that are older than him. He doesn't like him that he's older than him.

He's like, listen, you're how old? You made the fact. You know, Chauvinay was 86. He went after Chauminade. And then Biden was older than him. And then now he wants to go after him. Trump doesn't like seniors. Hey, man.

He is like, he is a little bit. He's going to be 80 in a month, guys. Well, listen, it's his way of saying, look, I'm going to be the oldest guy in charge. All the rest of the world. Get out. Everyone's got to be younger than me. So she is safe. Putin's safe.

Anybody that's younger than Trump is safe. Anybody older than Trump, you better watch out. Watch out. Watch out of him. Adam, Adam. Tomorrow morning. Bernie. Go to the next story.

I'm going to go to next story. Okay. All right. Tom, did you want to tell your joke or you want to, you know, it was going to land? I'm going to give you that opportunity. I want to go to SpaceX. I want to SpaceX. I want to go to SpaceX.

SpaceX. SpaceX page 24. So the biggest revelations from the SpaceX S-1 filing, folks, if you're not, listen, some people are trying to run a business that does a million dollars a year. Some run a business doing 10 million here. Some get to 100 million, which is like, my God, I can't believe we build a 100 million out of your business. This guy doesn't build billion dollar companies.

This guy's built multiple trillion dollar companies. Let me say this again. He's built multiple companies that are not worth. multi-billion dollars, multi-trillion dollars, and now SpaceX, which was just an idea, now all of a sudden, you know, the single biggest IPO, so let me read a couple things to it, Musk's initiative to build a human colony, making life multi-planetary is at the forefront of SpaceX mission, number one, number two, Musk's pay package could be worth up to $737 billion based on the implied share count defilings,

must two performance awards could be worth $737 billion. So what's your bonus this year, folks? His is $737 billion if he's able to get this done, okay? And that is if a $1 billion share award that vests, if SpaceX reaches a valuation of $7.5 trillion, which, by the way, Tom's going to tell you a number that's $28.5 trillion here in a minute, but he'll get to it.

Anthropic is paying a lot for SpaceX compute. Anthropics paying SpaceX $1.25 billion a month through May of 2029 for access to the rocket company's compute capacity. That's a pretty good customer right there. Musk has massive voting power. You ready for the voting power? Let me read it to you. Voting rights and stock means each share-owned gives the shareholders one vote on eligible matters, except the S-1 revealed that Musk, who serves as a company's chief executive, CTO, and chairman of the board. Oh, my God.

holds 85.1% of combined voting power, which you know what it means? Nobody gets to say shit. What he says is going to happen. And Grok's cap X was higher than starships. The S-1 laid out capital expenditure by division for the three-month ending, March 31st, $1 billion on space, $1.3 billion on connectivity, $7.7 billion on AI. That means spending on XAI projects like Grok was higher than SpaceX's Rocket division spending, which includes the super heavy starship rockets. The company poured money into

AI last year, too, for 2025 space segments spent $3.8 billion, and the AI segment spent $12.7 billion. Tom, how big of a deal is this? This is huge. This is really big. And everybody is coming out today. There is an analyst. I won't give his name from the information that came out and said, SpaceX is worth $700 billion, not $1.75. And he did all present value on things. People are doing that, I'm like, wait a minute, it's not present value, it's future value. And to talk about in life in S-1s, there's what's called Tam and Sam. Tam is total available market. Like, let's say Vinny, the merchandise.

Let's say merchandise in the United States was a total available market of $10 billion. And then you go to Sam, served market. But the faith-based market would be $400 million. Make sense? So you always look at it that way. And big TAMs, total available markets, big market opportunities make IPOs go. Well, let's check this out. The total addressable market in the S-1, they said, is $28.5 trillion, which the company claimed, quote,

this is the largest actionable total addressable market in human history, with AI making up 93% of the opportunity. So here's SpaceX. What's inside SpaceX? AI is 26 trillion of it, the total market. connectivity Starlink is 1.6 trillion. So, oh, little Starlink, it's $1.6 trillion. Yeah, that's enormous. You know, it's huge.

It'll be like the number seven, number five, six or seven company at the end of this year. The space segment, space enabled solutions, you know, launching stuff for other people, only $370 billion. But check this out. AI from enterprise applications, a tam of $22.7 trillion. So what they're really saying is it's all about getting the data centers in space where you don't have the cooling, you don't have the water to worry about, because facing the sun, it's ridiculously hot, but eight inches away facing space, it's ridiculously cold,

which is which, guess what, chips love that. And so this would be if he gets the data centers up orbiting there, then guess what? He has a massive cost advantage after he gets him up there. And so what you see here, Pat, is just stunning. This is, you called it. I don't know if we have that clip there,

but a couple years ago, Pat called it on where Musk would be going. Rob, do we have that? This is what? This is... May 7, 22. Play it? I had a mustache that day. Yeah. Should I invest in Twitter today?

If you can get it, the rounds are 100 million. Where do I say that if you can get in there? Right here. You want to go to specific part where I say he'll be a trillionaire. Yep, right here. Okay, go for it. There's not a lot of people that are sitting on $100 million of cash. That's the challenge. Market cap, $38 billion.

Okay, here's what I'll tell you. Twitter. A rollout is a really giant. It is what it is. Okay. But we called it there and now you have... He'll be a trillion. We don't need to play this clip.

But he'll be a trillionaire in no time. This was four and a half years ago. He's the first self-made. Yeah. People say, oh, there's other trillionaires on on earth, stop. You're talking about sovereigns that are running countries that own the oil under the

land. None of them. They were born into it and the oil was put there by God. I have to, after Tom came to me, Tom, I concur with your monetary assessment. Your analysis demonstrates a sophisticated understanding of the economic reality of what's going up. I just had to tell him that.

I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. Elon, how big of the deal is this? How big of the deal is? I think number one, one of the main things we're seeing that Tom touched on is the importance and the future of our world literally depends on our data centers. That's the big upcoming war. But I think in terms of Elon Musk, we're getting to the point where individuals, like an individual like Elon Musk can hold more power and more influence than countries, than entire country. He's building civilization scale infrastructure. This isn't like,

this is like back in the day they built the railroads. He's building this to outer space. So it's an entire different mindset. And he's not only revolutionized multiple industries, he's created multiple industries. Everything he went into, people said was an impossible place to go into. When we looked at electric cars, he created that entire industry. People said it wasn't viable. When we look at privatized space travel, people said that wasn't viable. He has taken every single thing he's done and turned it into a mega corporation. I think people failed to realize that the future of our world is going to be heavily influenced by people like this. And again, it all comes down to the data centers. Our ability to compute things is going to be the future.

And that's where everyone should be putting their focus. Adam. You gave that date, what was it, May of 2022? Yeah, 2020. Where do you think his net worth was at that point? 250 billion. Okay, you want to see something crazy? Rob, I sent you a picture.

Where do you think his wealth was in 2020 right after COVID? Right after COVID? Like, you know, a few months after COVID. Rob, don't show that. 88 billion. Okay, you're absolutely right. Look, Rob, the other picture. This is in October of 2020.

Yep. I'm doing board episodes. and my favorite place in the world. Addison, look where Elon Musk is on that list. 96 billion. He's the fourth, sorry, fifth richest person. I had to write that whole thing. That was ridiculous.

Worth 96 billion. And so less than a little over five years later, he's going to be a trillionaire. And wow, let's just stop right there. But you called it, respect to you. I think this is going to get it real ugly for the guy. And by the way, I'm going to say two different things right here.

We need to stop in America, the socialist Marxists, stop villainizing the greatest creators, these billionaires, the people are changing life as we know it, and villainizing them from becoming billionaires or trillionaires. It's like, what do you want to pay them with? Cookies and ice cream? Like, how, when you do good things, what can we give them?

Well, they do it for money and wealth so they can do it and buy and build more businesses. Clearly this guy wants to do is like, I don't understand the Marxists that want to come after their money. It's like, that's how they're funding your city. Yeah, but look, I mean, that's great to see this on what the guy is doing. What I will say is how does this apply to you? Okay. How does this apply to you? That's where I was going.

That's where I was going. Okay, sorry. So what I will say is there is there ever a case, maybe in the history of the world, Pat? Yeah. of signal over noise than Elon Musk. This guy is in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. Other than Trump, probably one of the most hated men in America, if not in the world. And all he's doing is changing the world.

From the baby mama drama, the Trump-Ebstein tweet, six months later he's on a plane with Trump to China, the way that he's tuned out all the noise and built some of the world's greatest companies. In fact, since COVID, he's on a plane. the list of the top 10 companies that have had the biggest profit margins since 2020. Yeah, yeah. And he's done all this with basically creating drama everywhere he goes. He just did a lawsuit. I think he was found guilty or whatever it was with Sam Altman or he lost that case. Yeah. So there's so much noise going on this guy. Nobody was telling him.

I want to show this, Rob. If you want to pull this up, Rob, how does this apply to you? Folks, if you're not somebody that's following exactly what's going on, this is not a sponsorship. Okay. Autopilot. What they do. is they track what everyone's portfolio is that you can match them. They just released recently, Trump's administration committed $2 billion to quantum computing companies in exchange for equity stakes. And these were a handful of companies they looked at. That's surging right now. Okay, just look at that. Infliction, de-wave quantum, rigity, global boundaries, and IBM because they got the deals. So if you haven't gone and downloaded the app

Autopilot, do yourself a favor and go do that. You can have any of the portfolios that they're following and you're like not somebody that's a day trader, they do it for you, Rob. Can you go to the other image I sent you? I sent you two of them. This is one of them and I sent you the other one to pull up. So if you go to their account right now,

one of their top performing ones by the unusual whales is White House asset management. You literally track what they're investing their money into. So there's going to be a lot of wealth being made the next few years. You may as well write it. You may as well write it. If you can't afford to put a lot into it, test something out for yourself that you can afford. But get into mix.

This is going to be the amount of, like Anthropics CEO said this, this is very important for people to be aware of. He said GDP is going to go to the, it's going to skyrocket, but so is unemployment is going to go to 10%. During this time when it happens, make sure you're paying attention. to your investments. Make sure you're paying attention to what's going to happen to your own investments. The difference could be if you're sitting on $88,000 today, in the next five years, that $88,000 could be $372,000, or it could be $38,000, or it could be $694,000, or it could be in the millions. But if you're just somebody that's not paying attention to what's going on in the market, your family is going to be impacted by as well. You love or hate what's going on with AI. You can hate it as much

as you want, make sure at least the investment side, work in your favor and you have the tools. Autopilot may be one of the best ones for you to look at at what they're doing today. 40 average person, Tom introduced me to this. We made the phone call. I was so impressed by these guys. I got involved myself in the company on wanting to contribute to them. And then I open up an account. I put my own money in it as well, and I'm watching what's going on.

I got a lot of different investment portfolios, but it is something where the average person, even somebody, 39% of our audience are business owners. You guys did the survey. 39% of your audience or business owners, you may want to check these guys out. Okay, let's go into the next story. Next story I want to get to is what happened with Zuck. So Zuck with the 7,000 layoffs because of AI that took place.

The one thing that people are missing is anytime some like this happens, automatically everything is Mark Zuckerberg, you know, address a staff ahead of mass AI layoffs. And by the way, was this leaked intentionally or was this accidental? I don't know, but it was on a all-hands meeting on April 30th where he just told them that, you know, the training AI on them ahead of mass layoffs. Okay, so this is a conversation that's being taking place.

Mass layoffs are around the corner. Wednesday, they did the layoffs two days ago. They asked everybody to stay home for no one to come to the office. A bunch of employees who were worried about getting fired were taking batteries, chargers, they were taking whatever the supplies that Facebook allows you to have. And remember, you know what the average employee makes at Facebook? I don't know if you know the average salary. The average employee at Meta makes between $350,000 to $380,000 a year.

It's not like they're getting rid of 62,000. There you go, 379 a year, is what the average salary, the median total salary is admitted. So when they're letting go of people, 7,000 of them, it's a lot of money. But if you want to play this clip, Vinny, I'm going to come to you first, and Tom, I'm coming to you right afterwards. Go ahead. In other news, I know layouts are top of mind, but there were also some updates this week around, and a question around employee device tracking.

So can you share more on employee device tracking? I think the way that it was announced left folks with some. Yeah, yeah. So, okay, let's talk about what we're doing. You know, like Alex just said, going into what makes these AI models great, right? There's basically a few key ingredients. There's getting the research and the architecture good. There's having good infrastructure, which is both the quantity of compute.

But like as important, if not more, is also just like how efficiently can you use it, How reliable is it? What is the quality of that? It's a six minute clip. And then what, 44, I think 44. 44 seconds, Rob. I don't know. I think he did.

I already said the AI part. Which he says what? He said the AI models learn from watching really smart people do things. That's what he's, that's what he's, that's the goal of what this leaked audio was about. So meaning you keep coding so the AI models are watching what they're doing so they get smarter. Yes. Okay. So and that, that's here, by the way.

And all the back in the days, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, Luke Gorman was showing this of where Anthropic CEO talking about, you know that part with which jobs are going to be replaced by AI the most? Did you see this thing? This is a chart that was going viral all over X. It's very important to see this and scary at the same time. Parents,

if you haven't seen this, talk about this with your kids. Right there, Rob. If you can click on that, watch this, folks. So this is, go to the top, Rob, so we can see what the top headline says. Andregi Carpati, who was at Open AI, he left to go to Anthropic, just just dropped the job risk map for the

AI era. By the way, this guy's a heavy, heavy, heavy weight. Respected by everybody on the AI space. Can you zoom in a little bit, Rob, if you could? This is what he's saying the risk is at. Red is risky, green is fine. Look at red. General office clerks. Okay, secretaries and admin. Makes sense. Customer service representatives. Totally makes sense. Bookkeeping on the bottom left. But Rennie, go to the fourth chart. Bottom. Do you see software developers? Yes. They're going to lose their jobs. 100%. Like, kids go to school to become software developers. Guess what? No one care. cashiers gone, heavy and tractor operators, accountants, management, project management, purchasing, human resources, market research, lawyers.

AI is going to replace lawyers. Now look at the green, Vinnie. Look what the jobs are green. Construction labors, janitors, child care, okay? Preschool teachers, barbers, Drew and Michael Rapitone are safe, nurses, home health care, hand laborers, retail sales workers. delivery truck drivers, farmers, cooks, food and beverage sales, waiters and waitresses, electricians, plumbers, they're safe. This is changing.

This is real. And so Facebook, Zuck is saying this to his engineers on the back-end time. I think it's very important to know that Zuck knows that, like, imagine, like, imagine you're an engineer, you went to school, you won the best engineers, I know that you know your job's about to be replaced by this AI software. We both know. So my concern is, I want the best from you. What can I do to get the best from you so you don't get distracted and go to a different place?

Tom, can you unpack what Facebook did, what Meta did to these guys that are helping of the AI getting smarter when it comes onto coding? Exactly. Right now, when Meta hires, by the way, in midst of all these layoffs, meta is still hiring brilliant engineers to come in, work on AI and other projects. And right now, they are still at half a million, a million dollar science. bonuses. There were, there was headlines and an elite engineer received a hundred million dollar signing bonus. And Pat, what they were talking about, they gave a bunch of stock options that person that if they go over time and Facebook keeps growing, it's $100 million. But right now, this is, this is where they're at right now. Level E6 is

what they call a staff engineer. That's a staff engineer at Facebook. And their salary 300, their stock matches it every year 300. You make 700 a year plus plus plus for an E6, E7 is 1.1 million, E8 is 2.72, E9 is 3.85. So from level E6, staff engineer going all the way up, now you're on million dollar packages, C-level CFOs at mid-sized companies in America don't make $2.1 million a year. And so, and Facebook is saying, okay, well, you're just an E7, a senior staff engineer, and you're going to make $1.5 million. So there may be a lot of layoffs.

They may have gotten rid of the metaverse. They may have called Reality Labs. They may have done that. And they may be eliminating jobs for AI, but the people that are staying are very well compensated. And it's not like stick around for and then show AI how to do the coding and then you're out of here. It may be, but along the way, you're being paid handsomely to do that job. Let me tell you, E7 makes $1.469 million. Rob, can you pull out what an E7 makes in the Army?

Yeah, go ahead. shit, when you say I was in E5, homer. I'd go back in the Army, E7. Y'all get ready for ballers. E-7s make $3,932. Folks, don't get it twisted. This is E-7 as an engineer. Not E-7 in the Army.

You make chump change. But you know what I do things are going to happen, Vinnie? And Tom, I think here's what's going to happen. I think employees are going to shrink at a lot of these companies, but they're going to make a lot of money. So if you're there, so if you were making, 379, you're going to make, you know, one and a half. If you were making one and a half, you're going to make 3.2. If you were making 3.2, you're going to make 7.8. I think it's going

to be the other way around to keep those guys, but it is something that a lot of people are thinking about and worried about. I just think that the entire way we view our economic structure is almost prehistoric compared to what's coming. I think that's the problem. I think there's two simultaneous things happening. You looked at that chart. That's the influence of AI. It doesn't look at the influence of just robotics and automation. which will accelerate at an exponential rate once AI gets better. We're starting to see robots that are made much cheaper. I mean, Elon Musk's working on it.

So there's going to be two hits to the economy. And what does a capitalist society look like when labor isn't as meaningful? And I think we're headed in that direction. We have to start thinking about this more existentially than literally. The value of money, the way we perceive wealth, the way we perceive taking care of people in society, all has to shift to accommodate for AI. A lot of people are looking at AI, and they're saying,

Don't worry, new jobs will be created to compensate like in the past. I don't believe that AI is not only doing the physical kind of aspect that used to be compensated for. It is doing the actual thinking. And what do we see most affected here? The highest level of thinking is what's most affected. So meaning I thought AI would come out and it wouldn't change art. It wouldn't change film. That was the first thing it hit.

It is incredible at doing the high level stuff. So once it can break itself down through automation and robotics to do the low level stuff, I think every industry is impacted. And I just don't see how we replace it. I'm terrified of AI. That's my honest opinion on. Yeah, I don't think it's going to be every industry. I think it'll be quite a lot of them.

But I do think, you know, sometimes, sometimes like, listen, you know, it's my favorite day of the week? Saturday when you put your phone away. Saturday night, six to nine, when this is not in our hands. And it's my favorite day of the week. This thing's away, right? As much as I love technology and how it's changed our lives. I dislike it just as much because it's stealing time away

from our loved ones and who we like to sit down and talk to. I do think we're going to go that route, but I do think Team Human is going to make a comeback. We're going to miss each other. We're going to miss... I remember I told the story a few weeks ago where me and this guy from Armenian Power

got into a fight once at Glenda Community College and it was just a group of us. Stupid fight for no reason. Massa fight. A few months later, I'm in the Army at PX. And you know what the PX is? You're going to PX to shop. It's like the Walmart of the Army.

Tax-free. And it's a smaller to PX at Fort Jackson, okay, 2-28, right across the street from the 2-2-8 unit. The smallest PX, not the big PX. And this guy, we're both bald. He keeps mad-dogging. I'm mad-dog. I'm both have crooked noses.

When you've got a crooked nose, right, the Italian or Middle Eastern, right? Yeah. So he's looking at me, I'm looking at it. And we get closer, closer, closer. We hug each other and we're crying. Wow. So just a few months ago, we're fighting. A few months later, his name was Sleepy, I believe,

if I'm down to say, you had a brother, both of them joined the military. Great guy. We ended up becoming good friends. So I think the friction is going to bring us back to team human, but I do think some industry is going to be disrupted, and a lot of industry is going to be disrupted, and I do think people need to be aware and have to talk to their kids about this. You can't sit there and not have the conversation. You have to sit there and have this conversation with your kids

because it's coming to a city near you. Whether you like it or not, it's coming to a city near you. I agree 100%. And just, I mean, if we go back to the Zuckerberg story, and I trust me, I understand 100% as a CEO. It's the company. And that's what he does. But using your employees for training data specifically for the purpose of replacing them later is pretty freaking cold-hearted. And I get the fight that he's going to pay them Tom and do that for the future.

But I think the bigger. Respectfully, you just, you just mentioned every company in America. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. But training them and saying that they're watching. I'm no defender of Mark Zuckerberg. When you can say that and that's kind of cold-hearted, you're not just talking about Mark. You're talking about every company that is building an LOM.

I don't know. I don't know, guys. I don't know, guys. Because let me tell you how this works. Okay. Whose job is it to make sure your kids, your wife, your family is positioned the right way? Whose job and duty is that? Husband.

Yours. Yeah. Whose job is it to make sure if you're an entertainer or a comedian to stay funny? Whose job is it? A.I.'s job or your job? Your job. job. Whose job is it if you're a model to make sure you don't have belly fat so when pictures are taken, you look good and your chin looks like yours?

Whose job is it if you're an actor to make sure you stay sharp, you stay marketable? Your job. So for me, if you have a job anywhere you're working, you can either sit there and say, well, F this company, all they want to do is be able to replace me anyways and da-da-da-da-da-da. What a negative place to come from. What a negative place to come from. For me, it's more sit there and say, you know, what can I do to be multifaceted to the company? So I got more value that I'm bringing to the company. Because for me, guess what I have? What fear do you think I have?

Let's flip it. Can you imagine how to F everybody? Everybody you train them and they leave and start their own business. What do I have to say? Make the opportunity better. Make the environment better. Make the climate better where people work better together. We had a staff meeting the other day.

Have you ever seen a staff meeting this big double that we have? 200 people. It was insane. We had 17 new people we onboarded just last week on Monday. I've never seen this many employees in our company. We're hiring like gangbusters left and right. And then guess what we do? We create the company away. How do we give equity, Vinnie? People that have equity in a company, Rob, what equity do you have in a company? Which businesses do you have equity in? Stock options in. All of them. Name me the businesses that you have stock options in. Manect, VT merch, VT events, value taming.

Bet David Consulting, the boardroom cigar lounge, higher metrics. You heard what he just said. So guess what? You create the opportunity in a better way, so everybody's working collaboratively. So how do people work together? They're like, I don't know studio does that. I don't know merch does that. I don't know hire metrics does that.

I don't know Meneck does that. I don't know engineers do that. So I think it's on the business owners to make it better and the individuals. If you sit there and say, all women want to do is take advantage of the money on da-da-da-da-da. All men want to do is, take on jail, okay, yes, let's make ourselves more valuable, more marketable. I do think, I do think in a big way, this is actually honest. I think it's the most honest way of saying, hey, Vinnie, this is what we're doing,

AI is here, this is how it's replacing themselves. My suggestion for you the next six months, I'd like to see you go take this executive course, pay attention to what's going on here, because we need helping the company in these three areas. And so while you're helping aside with this transition, in the next 6, 12, 18 months, I would like to see you take this position of XYZ. And you're like, oh, wow, that's cool. And that's called career planning. Like one of the things with higher metrics we do, which is my favorite part of higher metrics. We do the calibration. You're part of the calibration that we do quarterly,

and you know how we do calibrations. Okay. So the part of the calibration that we added this year, which is magical, it was a massive disruption and uncomfortable for everybody. You know what it was? Here's what it was. Typically, calibration, who do you calibrate? Employees. Employees. Well, you know, exceeds expectation, meets expectation, does not meet expectation, needs improvement, right? Outstanding.

You know what do we did this time? We send calibration on all of our managers. So if you got nine people that report to you, we send an email to everybody to answer questions, 10 questions, on how well of a job your manager does sitting with you to help you with your career planning. And then scores came back. And then some department scored 4.3. Some departments scored 2.3. And then you're like, hey, do you ever talk about career with the guys?

No, and I don't enough. We need to. Hey, how do you talk about your career with the guys? Here's how I do it. So I think whatever is going on, companies have to get better, individual performers have to get better, managers have to get better, and leaders have to get better. If we don't do that, Vinny, you are right.

Everybody, everybody could be replaced. if we don't collectively get better. And then guess what happens, which is a scary thing that we talked about. And me and Humberto, we're talking about this the other day, Pat in the car. Like the middle class and the lower class that are probably going to be losing some of those jobs, they're used to being once in a while poor. They've struggled. They've been there.

Guess what? These people that were making 500, 700,000, Pat, that are going to lose their job and they're not ready. They don't know how to be broke. They don't know how to be poor. So then you're going to take people that own all this house and all this stuff, and they're going to basically be struggling. Then what happens to society? Because you know what I love that you.

You said, Pat, the people that use their hands, they're chilling. All the people that are using their hands that society normally looks down upon, they're right now like this. You ready? I'm doing great. You're ready? Tom, question for you. Watch this, Vinnie.

Yeah. How many industries have you worked in that have nothing to do with each other? Watch this. You've made tens of millions of dollars in your career. How many industries have you been involved in that have nothing to do with each other? I can probably name five right now. Okay. So why does the market keep looking for guys like,

you. Why are you never worried about what happens with you in your career? I'm an operator and I'm adaptable. Exactly. So you know the people that are making the $500,000 year, you know what you're not asking, Vinnie? What did they do to get to a half a million dollars? What did they do to get to a half a million dollars is transferable to every industry? Got it. Do you understand what I'm saying? Don't worry about them. Yes. They find ways. They're resourceful. They'll find a way to win. The problem is to people that are like, oh my God, you know, what's going to happen? We're all going to be replaced. What about this?

What about that? No, use that energy to find a way to become irreplaceable. Use that energy to find a way to become so valuable for the company. Use that energy to, you know, improve yourself and sit there and say, what if we do this and what if we do that? That opportunity is on the individual to improve. That's my opinion. I've got some major thoughts on this. Try to keep it short because I want to go to next one.

I know. I'm going to go super fast. I just don't want to get caught off because I've been very silent on this. I've never been more convinced that the future looks right. Ever! I think everything you said is so accurate about there's going to be returned. You said humans are going to make a comeback. You know, it's kind of like, don't call it a comeback.

We've been here for years. LL.L. Cool, J. Shout out. I think there's going to be returned to normalcy. I think a couple different things are going to happen. Feminism is going to have to be rewritten. What it means to be a man needs to be rewritten. And what it needs to be a young person in America trying to make that money and save that money

means to be rewritten. I'll just break those three down. I think for a man, you have two paths at this point in the future. You can go the STEM route, the tech route, get awesome at that, or the I'm a human and society route and I'm not behind a computer per se, and I'm working my hands, I'm a laborer, I'm a construction, or I do sales, I manage relationships.

People helping people, no pun intended, people being around humans is never going to go away. even as we get more data inefficient and more what I call geek squad. Those are the two opportunities for men. And obviously, in any point, you want to start a family, you're going, your game is changing, ladies. Because going to college for all these useless degrees and getting saddled with debt,

and by the time that you figure out what you're going to do with your life, you're 34, and nobody necessarily wants to settle down because you've been a career and a boss babe, that's all going away, ladies. And let me tell you, that's going to be a great thing for society. because notice all the jobs that the ladies are going to do in the future. It's all baby-making and baby taking care of. It's nurses, it's teachers, it's babysitters.

There are no more paralegals. There's no more random office jobs. So ladies, and for PBD, you know what this is going to mean? There's going to be making a whole lot more babies. That's your dream, is it not? No, listen. I think men are going to be laboring, laying pipe, literally, figuratively, and I think women are going to be taking care of kids.

And the last thing for the young people, one thing is universal. I've never been so convinced of this. Skills pay the bills, degrees pay fees. Straight up. I always say keep your costs low, your flexibility high. You don't know where you're going to be moving these days. With AI, with unemployment,

if you get good at your job and you know what you're doing and you're laying pipe, you know, necessarily, I think the future looks bright, Penn. Okay, fantastic. All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is Bezos. I want to show a couple clips of Bezos, Rob, if you want to pull those up. So one by one by one, you know, he is just, you know, making point after point after point with this interview with, is it Sorkin?

Aaron Sorkin. Am I saying? Andrew Ross, Sorkin. Right. That's Tom's boy. Aaron Sorkin was doing a great job. Which clip is this, Rob? Is this the one about the 1% and the bottom 50%?

This is the Wapo clip. Play the Wapo clip. So watch this. Look at the way. He's being asked where it's like, oh, my God, a gotcha question. Hey, how about all the people you laid off at Wapel? This is basic business, common sense. Go ahead, Rob.

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Register today at fight for brainhealth.ca. I was asking you about the news market. Yeah. Because you own the Washington Post. Yes. And one of the critiques, by the way, and this is maybe the wealth critique and everything else is, you know, we just said the company laid off about 30% of its staff. And there's a lot of people out there who said,

Jeff's super wealthy. He's talked about this being a public trust. It's something that he bought early on. how much you care about that piece of it. Why lay people up? Why fire people? Why are you to subsidize the business? Because the post needs to be a profitable enterprise that stands on its own two feet.

It needs to be a good. Yes. I mean, that's a question. Some people say it should be a trust. And let me tell you why. Okay. Because it's a measure of its relevance. If people won't pay for our product, we're not doing it.

Bingo. It's not good enough. It's a really well thing. It's like, you know, doing, it would be like poetry without rhyming. It's too easy. So we want, it's got to be something that people will pay for because that's a signal. Right. It's a signal that we're providing a relevant service.

Your paper of the New York Times, you guys make a ton of money. You guys are doing very well financially. And you're providing a service that people are willing to pay for. We can do that too. And guess what I told them, you know, when we were planning those layoffs. Right. I didn't pick who was going to lay off or which departments. I said, follow the data.

Follow the data. And I said, there's one exception to this. What's that? Don't follow the data on investigative reporting. The heart of the post is investigative reporting. And guess what? Our newsroom today, even after the layoffs, is still larger than when we did Watergate and the Pentagon Papers.

And so, and we just won the Pulitzer Prize. for public service, the most prestigious pride, but most prestigious politzer for our investigation in a Doge. Tom, so what do you think about the way he's breaking this down, about WAPOM, why he let go of 30% of his people?

Basically what he's pointing out is that there's, you know, there's a fable that's in the middle of the question there. And the question is like, why isn't it a trust? And what that is, that's Sorkin kind of speaking to the New York Times

that bought his business. Remember, Sorkin was an entrepreneur and sold his business for a lot of money, deal book. And so now he's out, well, why isn't the news media a trust? And all of a sudden, he gets the facts back. And I think that this is what every entrepreneur in America understands. If I run a pool cleaning business and I've got a hundred pools that I'm cleaning and I got four guys and I'm losing a little bit of money, then and three of my guys are not that business. And I've got busy, then I got to do it with three guys because I'm protecting the jobs of the three. Nobody looks at what you're protecting or building. They always look at the other side because Sorkin's just trying to find the gotcha. He's trying to find the angle in the interview there.

And that's kind of disappointing to me. Now, should he be asking the question? Sure. But he shouldn't be so surprised that an entrepreneur says, wait a minute. Words Talks number scream. We have a bigger newsroom than we did under Watergate, which is one of the great legacies and great accomplishments and the great history, storied history of the Washington Post. We've got that. Don't judge it by the investigative reporting. We need that. Follow the data on everything else. And it's like, are you contributing value? And then he whips it back around and says, hey, the New York Times, people want to buy that. The New York Times and the Wall Street Journal is kind of interesting. They're both in New York, and they're down the street from each other, and both of them have done

better digitally than any other papers out there. Who's done better digitally on subscription than the time's in that? So what do I think? I think Bezos is speaking the truth. Bezos is speaking like an entrepreneur. And there are stuff for people to learn there. If you're running a T-shirt company in Berlin or a small software company in Nebraska, you have something to learn right there.

If it's profitable and it's making it, you bet on it. And if it's not, you have to look at trimming or doing something else. It's just a fact. and the insiduous angle that says, well, maybe turn it into a trust or something. Bezos is under no obligation to run a nonprofit to build a newsroom simply because you want another liberal voice in America. Sorry. Well, it touches on actually the kind of socialist mentality we were talking about earlier.

What he said is the oldest free market argument in history. And he said it beautiful. If it's not producing, if it's not profitable, that's a sign of its lacking, Or he said if it is profitable, that's a sign of its relevance. That is everything. That's the market feedback you get to know if what you are doing has value. Everything great we created in society. People talk about this with medicine.

They say, like, oh, well, why does this medicine cost us? These companies are incentivized to create these things for us because they can then make money off of it. If there is no profitability there, creation dies. And so he's making the ultimate argument here that if he's making relevant news that people want to pay for, then he knows he's making good news. the argument that you should be losing money means that your entire infrastructure is not functional.

So exactly what Tom said. I mean, it's the capitalist free market argument. Yeah, you have the money. Why don't you do it if you have the money? Why do you need to do this? Why do you need to sell merch? Why do you need to do all this stuff to keep making the money? Why do you...

It's how this thing works. The incentive for people to continue building something, not the other way around. Adam, your thoughts. I've got a different take on this. Not necessarily a WAPO take, but like more of a societal, cultural take. The article that you just read, what was the second article after that?

It said that Zoran Mamdani rebuffs Jeff Bezos, calm out, and rising taxes. So a few years ago, I remember when it was Elon Musk versus Zuck, or Elon Musk versus Bezos. Now it's those guys, Zoran Mamdani, AOC. Shouldn't there be like tens of thousands of Amazon jobs in New York right now that AOC didn't want? God forbid that you want jobs to pay your people? hundreds and thousands of dollars. So I have a message to AOC and to Mom Donnie. Thank you.

As a Miamian, as a Floridian, I generally just want to thank you for bringing all this money and all this wealth and all this opportunity to Florida. PBD, where were you X amount of years ago? California. California, Texas. Came to Florida.

Jeff Bezos, born in red in Miami. He's half Cuban, Miami. Palmetto graduate Miami came to Florida. By the way, where's he doing this interview? It's on the top left corner. Merit Island, Florida. Everything's in Florida. The Google Boys came to Florida.

Zuck bought a property in Florida. Your boy, Messi, moved to Florida. A couple of houses away from you. Ken Griffin, thank you. Mom, Donnie, for what you're doing to Ken Griffin. Go in front of his house again, please. We want all the money. We want all the wealth.

We want all the opportunity. We want all the innovation here in Florida, because we're the best. In New York, you're the worst now. So Miami in the last 10 years, has gone from a party city, and believe me, I know it, to a money city. And we got so much money and wealth and opportunity down here. What's the famous jerky boy thing, Pablo?

Pablo, you're coming home? Come to Florida. Come to Florida, everybody. Welcome. And that's what I think is going on here. Jeff Bezos is basically, choose your enemies wisely, the enemy of an enemy as a friend. The billionaires, the tax guys are like, all right, guys, we might be competing, but these guys want to take all our money away.

Yeah. So let's unite. Let me get to this next story. And by the way, all of this stuff you're saying, it's great. But I'm going to tell you something here, Adam, that the conservatives have to pay very, very close attention to going into 2028. I'll tell you what that is. Is AOC, she is watching the pain Americans are feeling with AI data centers. So what does she do?

She does a new, I want to say, documentary where AOC goes and visits Trump. country where voters embrace her in fight over new data centers. Because you're going to see 2028 issues change. Every election issues change. Immigration, border, you know, transgender, you know, whatever it's going to be technology, technocrats. You're going to see this being one of the topics in 2008, 2027. It'll be a top 10 issue that have come up. Trump supporters in rural Georgia say they need help in their fight against a new data center in their town from an unlikely ally. Ready? AOC. If there's a chance that anything can be done, I feel like she's going to be the one to do it,

says Beverly Morris in a new short documentary put out by More Perfect Union. Rob, do you have the clips of this or is it just AOC speaking on this topic here? This is just AOC, but she shows the water from the wells and what the data centers have done. Go ahead. I have a jar right here. That's disgusting. This is the current drinking water in Morgan County, Georgia, right after a data center was constructed.

The metadata center was constructed. The only difference between the clean water and this was that data center. I have another one as well. So this wasn't just one well. These wasn't just one family's situation. This is what the drinking water now looks like. did it for show. I mean, what are we doing?

Arnold Palmer was the first one. Now we're just trusting AOC? Well, no, we do know there's environmental impact from data. Okay, so let's hold that amount of bounty accountable. That doesn't mean we shouldn't build data centers. These families now have to ship, in a rural area, have to ship water to their house in order to cook. The showmanship here is great. And made themselves.

Now, I'm curious if the EPA plans any investigations on how data centers are affecting water quality and availability. I understand what you said about the rule, but are there going to be any open investigations on this? issue. So as soon as I get back to the office, I will be looking into exactly what you've just talked about because anywhere, whether it is, whatever type of construction it is, it is a priority to ensure the documentary. I'll see if I can find one. Yeah. So, so the point here is, as much as we're talking about all this stuff, would everybody come into Florida, the wealth going to Texas, the wealth going to, I'm a capitalist, 100 percent, I get it. But a society has to also be a good

society for the average kid coming out of college. There was another guy that just gave a college commencement speech, Rob, I don't know if he saw that one. He gave a college commencement speech where he got booed and he doubled down and says, I don't care if you're booing. Let me tell you, it's just the truth. I don't know if you saw that or not. Did you see that, Elon?

Did you see? Rob, did you see it? There was a guy giving a commencement speech and he was just kind of doubling down on being a, there's many words I can use. But just being an asshole. And the kids are like, boo! Look, if a 22-year-old graduate in college, their lives is not better, not that it was a guy, their lives are not better.

They can't afford to get married. Have a house. Have kids. And you just say, well, that's your problem. If we think that way, you're screwed. I think this is the guy, Rob. Go ahead. Streaming rewrote the economics.

Social media rewrote the discovery model. AI is rewriting production as we sit here. I know it. Deal with it. Like I said, it's a tool. Hey, like I said, you can hear me now or you can pay me later. Good one. Yeah.

Hey, then do something about it. Okay? It's a tool. Make it work for you. What's the guy's name? His name is... What's the, Tom? Do you know who this guy's...

Scott Borchetta. Who is he? Great last name. I kind of feel like going to an Italian restaurant. Bruchetta. I feel like eating Bruchetta. What is he doing? Halper? CEO of Big Machine Records.

I believe that was the record label that originally signed Taylor Swift. Okay. So is he a money guy? Is he a money guy? Type in network prop. Let's see where is that? Record executive. Is he a record?

It's like a... You won't find favorable. 450 million. No, so he's not really a money guy. He's kind of on the low end of thing. He's not a money guy. He's doing okay for him. Top 5%.

But I tell you... Unless you're worth a big. Bill, I don't want to hear from you. As you're going through issues that are going on with low and middle income families, if you don't pay attention to the stuff that's going on with AI data centers, if you don't pay attention to the stuff that's going on with affordability, if you don't pay attention to the stuff that's going on with AI replacing jobs and a few kids have, a person like an AOC will come up and say,

this is why the only institution that can go up with these bully technocrats is the government. This is what they're going to say. You need us to go. us to go fight off these technocrat, trillionaires and billionaires, and we're here to save you, and we're not going to let them touch you or do anything to you. That's what I think is coming next. Elon, you're going to know. You nailed it on the head.

You're starting to see a realignment, even of guys from Bezos, who was historically critical of Trump, starting to even realign himself with Trump, you're seeing these weird fracture points that are beyond the traditional left and right. What he's touching on, by the way, is one of those fracture points. It doesn't matter if you're conservative. If you're affected by job loss or you're affected by data centers, polluting your water or affecting your environment in where you live in a small town, you're going to start aligning yourself with the people who are speaking to you.

And if the right doesn't pick up on that, if it doesn't start touching on that and the importance of that and speaking to people who are affected by this and will be far more affected in the future, then someone like AOC will come up. And she's surprisingly charismatic when she's on point. She's dangerous in that sense. So, yeah, I think the talking points have to shift from, traditional left versus right talking points to what are the things really affecting Americans today?

This is a big one. And if you don't talk to Americans, you're going to lose them. Tom. You can look back. You know what? And I'm going to draw a parallel here. You can say what you will about Bernie Sanders. And we've all joked about him. I've joked about him pretty much. It's fun. But what I respected, what I respect about him is not his position, but you have to respect an opponent in the political stage. And what was his message that carried so much? much young vote of this older senator, student loans. Student loans were big. People couldn't feel they could afford them. Even though we say, you bought the car, you got the loan, that's what we said. You bought the education. You got the loan. People were saying, I had no choice. It was expensive.

I got into college. I wanted to study this or study that. They don't see the choices they made in there and the willing choice there. They see expensive student loan that the student loan process and administrators were acting really badly. Guess who surfed that wave? Bernie. Bernie surfed it, and he talked about wiping out student loans and making education free, and that resonated to people in the point of education. Now we have someone even more charismatic, even more dynamic,

going deep into Trump country, into a county he carried by 60 points, and carrying the mantle for data centers. and data centers is the symbol of that, which is more data centers means more AI. More data centers means my expense. You look at polling right now, Pat, you know what the word people associate with data centers? Expensive near me. If those are near me, it's going to be expensive for me. It's going to be expensive to me.

Electricity is what they focus on. But now what they sit back and you say, that's a data center. Now the data center is also about, you know, other problems near me. the environment near me, and most of all, data centers drive AI, AI drives jobs. All these CEOs keep talking about AI and job law. So guess what? She has her populist point. And unless we get on top of this, and unless, and this is what I've been making this statement

now for five months. I look back at the first time I said on the podcast, you need to stand up and say data centers need to pay for their own infrastructure if it affects water and electricity, because that's part of the public good. So you need to get permits for the small nukes, and you need to look at the sounds, because some of them, I found out it's not all of them, some of them that use certain cooling are loud as hell, apparently.

Confirm. We saw the video. And there are others that are not very loud. Okay, well, then we need non-loud data centers that don't bring up the price of electricity so that people are not impacted. But the flip side of it, people are still saying, man, data centers, Pat, that means AI, and AI is taking jobs.

And a populist like AOC becomes very fondable. Yeah, and by the way, if you look at this year, when it says 7 and 10 Americans oppose local construction of AI data centers, it doesn't say 7 and 10 liberal Americans. It's, yeah. It doesn't say 7 and 10 Republican Americans. It says 7 and 10 Americans oppose local. And this is from Gallup, not CNN, not Fox.

It's just telling you where the American people are out. So you have to check the polls going into 2728. This is a real issue. And then, you know, there could be some decisions you could make. could say it could be 10 miles away from where there's schools. It could be 50 miles. It can be, we got plenty of places to build that the local city will not be disrupted. But there's a lot of conversation. By the way, the typical argument they make Tom, you know what the argument is made? The argument is made, well, it's us or China. Who do you want to win? Right? It's us or China.

And, you know, it's us or, you know, what are we going to do? We're going to lose this battle? We're going to let other people win this battle? Where it's a fair conversation to, you know, it's a fair conversation have. And again, all I'm thinking about a guy that follows the sport of politics is what are the, what are going to be the main things that Steve Hilton, yesterday. Was it yesterday or two days ago? Yesterday, right? He was here yesterday. And I'm just sitting there watching for myself. And I'm like, are you doing this? Are you doing that? What are you guys doing about this? What are you doing about that? And I want to make sure this guy has a chance at winning because you'd love to see California have a different person. Most people don't even know this. Sixty one year.

out of the last 100 years, the governor in California was a Republican. Let me say that one more time. 61 of the last 100 years, the governor of California was Republican. It's been a fairly a Republican state majority of the time until lately. They've had more governors that were Republicans than Democrats. You'd love to see that happen to them. But you have to go and see the pulse. And the pulse today going into 27, 28, this is an issue that people are thinking about.

Adam, your thoughts. I'm with you 100% on the conversation. about data centers. I'll say this. People have every right to question, all right, what's going on here, guys? Because as humans, because we're returning to humans again, normalcy, we fear the unknown, we don't know what's going on.

Like, you go and ask my mom about Bitcoin. Oh my God, they're going to steal my money. But that didn't stop us from having Bitcoin and the internet and the automobile. Like, technology grows our society. The entrepreneurs are going to continue their business as they should. We should be

fearful of China. We should be fearful of these other countries. So we're going to use this as a force for good. Is a gun a good thing or a bad thing? Is the internet a good thing a bad thing? Is the smartphone a good thing or a bad thing? Well, I'm glad we have them. So, you know, they say all politics is local. The local

conversations need to be had over 8 data centers. But on the top 10 issues, if you're talking about these local towns at AOC is just charming over. All right, cool, data centers we may agree on. Let's over the other 10 issues.

Do we see eye to eye on any of them? The open borders, the transport stuff, the godlessness, the Marxist stuff, the wokeness. It's like, no, no, no, no. All right, data center, maybe. So the right better get a hold of this

data center thing so they don't use the affordability and economic conversation during midterms. But all the other issues for your normal Americans, I don't see AOC charming the pants out of that. Oh, okay. You stay there. Other than in Brooklyn, yeah. Yeah, you stay there.

Let me tell you. We still bring up Bernie 10 years ago. No, but let me tell you, you. As if normal Americans are still falling for that. She pissed off Rob right there. The young people are curious. Rob, put your pants on, dude. Right.

So here's what, young people are susceptible. But older people who are not living on social media all day, they know a little bit more normal. Screaming doesn't make your argument right. I was yelling at Rob. I understand that. Let me tell you what I'm saying here. If you get, at the end of the day, men are dangers to society when they don't have what?

Jobs, work, purpose. What else? Women? What else? Okay, can we say those are the top three? Men are dangerous, horrible to society. If they don't have those three things, and I would put hope as well and faith as well in those categories.

But specifically it's what? Purpose. Money, purpose, you know, a family, a woman in their life, friends. Okay. Basically, don't be a loser. So if these disruptions happen, thank you, if these disruptions

happen. It's funny, these batteries get bigger, but they die sooner. How to hell does this happen with technology? The biggest one died, the fastest one's like, I just want to, they're stealing the computer power. Get her ones that would last a long time. So, but if you, if we're not, if we all of a sudden see regular, by the way, when is election? When is, when is presidential election? How long do we have? November of 2028? November 2020. How long do we have till that? Two and a half years. Two and a half years. Okay. So, so here's a question for you. You ready for this question, Tom? I got, I got a question for specifically, Tom. You can give this answer to.

You ready? We are 900 days away from presidential election 2028. If Anthropics Seavini said unemployment could go to 10%, let's go worst case scenario. If AI, by the way, I had a dinner with a guy two nights ago, very, very successful guy financially, him and his wife, beautiful couple, he was in a meeting with Larry Ellison. and Larry Ellison,

guess what Larry Ellison said? He said in around five years, there's going to be more robots around the world than human beings. He said five years. He didn't say 20 years. Larry Ellison said that. And Larry Ellison doesn't just say shit.

The guy's worth anywhere between $200 to $400 billion on any given day. I don't know where he's at today. He's worth $2 to $400 billion. He's $2. He's a top five guy. He's a top five guy, but he may be a top two guy

in voice behind closed doors. Respect. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you mean robots are going to out number, number of people in five years? He's saying this. Okay. Now, that'll never happen. How quickly did language learning models change everything very quickly? All right, Tom, worst case scenario. If AI is going as fast as it is, how advanced you think coding is going to be in two years? How advanced you think coding will be May of 2028? 28? I'm on the camp that I think we're going to see a doubling in the next 24 months of coding capability.

The number of lines written per position or number of lines written per what you want to measure, it'll be 2x a number of overall lines written. So let me ask you. Driven by AI at the top end. Give me the best case scenario where unemployment will be October of 2028. Best case? Best case scenario. For the election?

Yep, October of 2028. I'm thinking 5 to 7. Did you hear best case, Tom is saying five to seven percent. Unemployment? Yes. Right. Best case? Yes.

What is it right now? Four? Yes. I don't know where it's out right now. Rob, we're at three and a half to four and a half percent. I didn't say worst case to Tom. The question I asked Tom is best case. And can we agree that they want to keep it?

4.7 percent today. That's in Florida. No, go to U.S. Rob, not Florida. He didn't type of Florida. And can we agree that? Can we agree the magic number that the Fed would like to keep that is under five percent? Yeah.

So can you go to unemployment? I'm talking about this. Nationally, where's unemployment right now, national? 4.3%. Okay, Adam, what was my question to Tom? How soon? No, where will it be in the year? Best case.

Unemployment, October of 20th. And by the way, this isn't Trump's fault. No, this is natural evolution of the United. Okay, Tom, do me a favor. Give me worst case. Worst case? Yeah. And by this is cataclysmic?

Don't give me cataclysmic. Just give me some hope. Give me an eight. Eight, eight, not a cataclysmic, like an eight worst case. Eight on ten. I'm really concerned that it could touch ten. Okay, perfect. Which is not insane.

It's not, it's not, it is insane. It is insane. Where was it during COVID? No, you can't compare COVID. No, you can't compare COVID. COVID was an artificial. COVID is an event that came and left in six months. I'm just saying, where was it?

It's not. If you go historically, you look at unemployment, look at the last time we had 10%. No, no, don't. don't look at that. That's like when you do steroids, TRT and cycle, and all of a sudden you're like this, look at me, my testosterone levels 1,200. Bro, get off all the shit and where are you at now?

Well, it's really 382. No shit. Like, go ahead. I'm very motivated to take care. Fully agree with you that that was fake, and this is real. But stay. So go to the time where it was a legit 10.

Yeah, that was during the Great Recession. And by the way, but why is that? Because of no income, no asset alone that came in. This is going to affect society more. This is not going to be a drop like that, buddy. No, that's an unsustainable. You mean it's going to be a worse job? Yes.

So you're saying it can go to as much as 20%? Let me make my point. I didn't say 20%. What I am saying to use the following. Per percent of unemployment going up, how many jobs do we lose? Rob, can you pull up per percent of unemployment? Million jobs? No, it's bigger than that.

Per percent of unemployment, it could be a million jobs. It's 150 million people that we have working. So 1.5 million is per percent. I don't know what the number. I'm just estimating. 1.5, 1.6 million. I was kind of close. Yeah, you were kind of close.

So you know what it means if 1.6 million people are unemployed? Rob, can you tell me by how many votes Trump beat Hillary in 2016? By how many votes? Majority went to who? Hillary. Hillary won 65. She won the popular vote. Okay.

So what is per percent? What is per percent? It's 1.6 million votes. How do you think they're going to be voting? And by the way, if it's 2 percent, it's 3.2 million. If it's 3 percent, it's 4.8 million. If it's 4% at 6.4 million, you want to play this game? So where I'm going to from now, Republicans have to really sit there and realize if you think socialism was being sold

where you're like, I think the things I don't ever have to worry about in socialism. Really? Yeah. Okay, bro, you stay that cocky. No, if I'm an advisor to a candidate for 2028, we are not only talking messaging strategies, ideas, ways to do things because we're entering a different era. This is the easiest it's ever been to create wealth, and this is the easiest it's ever been to replace anybody.

Who is the anybody? Who is the anybody? It's the average day today. So when you're talking about the youth, the youth is one. But how about the 57-year-old guy that still needs eight more years to work because he's relying on his 401k cannon dispension? And all of a sudden, that guy who makes $117,000, you're peaceful to society. No problem.

He goes once a month. and eats a cheesecake factory, anniversary. He goes to Hawaii once a year. He's pretty okay. He's happy. That guy loses it? No. Very quickly will people say, look,

I don't know what these guys are doing. They're becoming so rich. They don't even relate to me anymore. They forgot what it is to be a guy like me. I think I'm going to test out socialism for one year. If you think for a second, AOC doesn't stand a chance in 2020 yet. You're delusional.

You're delusional. Well, nobody saw Bernie coming. By the way, nobody saw him coming. But it's the difference. This is the part that people like, okay, do you realize? You see him on the same point. Yeah. What did Rudy Giuliani run on in 2004?

Crime. Crime safety security? What did Rudy Julian? When did Rudy Giuliani run for president? He cleaned up New York City. Do you know why he didn't win? Because it was too local? No, do you know the things he talked about that he didn't win?

You know why Rudy when he ran? He ran a couple times or he ran one time, Rob. It wasn't the main issue at that point. No. What controversy caused Rudy? Giuliani to not have a chance of winning in 08. Oh, in 2008? What do you mean? What controversy? Oh, the Great Recession. He ran for president.

No, he ran for president, but there was a couple controversy that came out preventing from winning on 2008. What was it? The Bernard Carrick scandal. Yeah, we know that. May he rest in peace. The misuse of security funds, contrasting Republican positions, and his same-sex couple marriage. Okay, same-sex couple was one of them. You know when they asked Trump, what he think by gay marriage? You know what Trump's answer was? I'm fine with it. No, he said, well, that's already

you guys have already made a decision. Let's go to the next topic. Giuliani, his policies were 95% identical to Trump. He just ran eight years too early. If Giuliani runs in 2016, say Trump doesn't run. He has a shot at winning. If he had the energy of 2008. What's the point? Bernie Sanders, maybe 10 years ago wasn't popular, 20 years ago wasn't popular. 2008, don't be too arrogant to think and AOC doesn't stand the chance. I have one number Listen, I'm still You know where I'm at

And who I'd like to see Have that nomination It's still too early to tell But you're delusional If you don't count her As a real threat I hear you I'll be real quick

In a weird way when you say this And you continue to say this Pat It's making my blood boil I'm glad I'm glad I'm like I just want to say that I'm glad it is And I get the impede People are not thinking

And I have to be super rub. I'm just like, oh, Pat, no, you're saying that people are fools and people are. No, they're not. And the people are fools. Victim culture. No, I'm not saying people are fools. I'm not saying people are dumb. I just told you, what does a man need before he becomes dangerous?

Give the man money. Give him a family. Give him a purpose. Entertain him. He won't cause chaos. Take those things away from him. He's a menace to society. If for every 1% that a man is not providing for his wife and he has to lay next to his wife and he's not providing,

for every 1% you're creating 1.6 million men who become menace to society. You can't afford to have that. But you're saying that that man who's upset is going to vote for AOC? No, Adam, it's deeper. They're not voting for AOC. Number one, even me, I'm a diehard capitalist, right? I love it. I do see a shifting tide in the way things are going to be happening in the future.

If there's a party in the future, regardless of left versus right, And you're talking about 1.6 million people per job per percent. That doesn't include their families who are affected by it. It doesn't include their friends who see it happening to them. It doesn't include the destabilization of the areas they live in where that's happening. So this affects far more than 1.6 million people per percent. Sure. I am a diehard capitalist and I am worried about where this is going and what my future will look like

and what my family's future will look like. And we all are. Yes, so the person who... But that doesn't mean you're going to vote for the socialism. No, but it does mean... that I will vote for the person who is speaking to me and providing me an option in a situation where I feel like maybe I don't have any. So even if, and you'll see, people will vote irrationally

when they're in a situation that is unstable. You see it all the time, like I said, I made that documentary around mass psychosis. People look for comfort in instability. They will side with whoever is offering it to them, even if it's irrational. And it's a very dangerous place for society to be, and that can allow people who you disagree with a nine out of ten topics

to get your vote because you disagree on. on the 10th because it's satiating that fear. Have better candidates than AOC is what I'm getting. You do it, but not only have better candidates. I'm saying on the right. Have not just better candidates because it's not about candidates. Look, what were the two or three events that caused you to go from being a never-Trump or to voting for Trump? What were the issues? What were you, what were the issues that flipped you for the first time in your life ever to vote for a Republican president? For me? Yeah. Oh, reality. No, it's not reality. It was so many different issues. It was the The left is no longer the left.

They are the far left, progressive, Islamist Marxists. They're not Democrats anymore. If Bill Clinton was running now, I'd be like, let's hear what you got to say, Bill. When AOC is running or Gavin's running, I'm like, no way. By 2028, how many trillionaires will we have in America? By 2028? How many trillionaires will we have in America? Probably just Elon, maybe another one.

Five? I think you're going to have three to five trillionaires. I think, in videos on its way. I think you're going to have three to five trillionaires. So billionaires are the new millionaires and the billionaires. The wealth disparity is becoming like so wider. For the MAG 7, for the guys who have built the best companies of all time in the history. I'm sorry. Anthropic wasn't part of the MAG 7.

Dario Modai is going to be one of the joy. But where did they get their money? He's on his way. Where'd they get their money from the big boys upstairs? We're mashing around here. I'm going to answer a question that Pat asked that I think we're all for it. And I want to move on to the next time. Can I answer the question you asked?

Yeah. Yeah. You asked, you said, how many people, 2016, Trump, became president because of 76,000 votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, 76,000. Take that 1.6 million people, the 1% unemployment, that's 4.5% of it. Keep staying cocky. See what happens. Keep staying cocky. I'm, yeah, keep saying cocky. You only need 5% of that 1% unemployment to vote the other way. Keep staying cocky and see what happened. But what do you mean by cocky? And I know you want to move on.

But what do you? Keep thinking that this is not a real threat. Listen, people, People know where I'm at. This isn't about a message of where I'm on a vote. Yeah. This is not about a message of where 90% of conservatives are going to vote. This isn't about you. It's about what the 12% in the middle of the independent libertarian is going to flip to. You're out of your mind.

Like you don't, so if you stay this cocky, Rob, make a note on predictions that we make to come back and check on this. Can you make a note, Humberto, make a file on your notes of predictions that I said this today, let's bring this clip back up in 2028 October. I can't wait for it. I can't wait for it. You know how many times I've talked to my guys I got too cocky and what happened to them? How did this happen? Play the clip of what I told you two years ago. Stop being so flipping cocky. The Republican Party cannot be cocky right now. By the way, this is not Trump's problem. This isn't Trump's problem. Trump's going to come and do his things in two terms. Republicans have

have to think about this is post-Trump problem. Then what are you going to be doing? Sit on the sidelines and don't do anything about this and think it's going to be just a regular thing. Okay, so anyways, let's go to the next story. Next door I'm going to go to is let's talk about the San Diego shooting. Okay, so tragic San Diego shooting of what happened there. Out of nowhere, we're hearing all these stories of what happened. Let me kind of read some of the stuff to you, and then Vinnie and Ilan, I'm going to come to you guys on this. On May 18, 2026, at the Islamic Center of San Diego, the largest mosque in San Diego County,

these two shooters where authorities say they're 17 and 18 years old come in, they kill three victims along with themselves later on in the car, which, by the way, the video is in the car, one guy shoots the other guy, then he shoots himself, and you see the blast that don't go watch the video. It's nasty, right, on what the video is. We're not going to show the clip. Police say they are investigating the shooting as a possible hate crime.

Officers reportedly arrived within about four minutes. after the first emergency calls came in. The first emergency calls came in around 1140, 1145 a.m. time. The two suspects were found dead inside a vehicle, two blocks away from the mosque. Security guard Amin Abdullah was praised as a hero after engaging the shooter and helping trigger lockdown procedures. Roughly 140 children inside the mosque's school were protected during the lockdown. Imagine these parents are sitting there worried about what's happening with their kids.

You're a parent, no matter what your religion is, you're inside, you're worried about. Wait a minute. What just happened? You know, who wants to see that? Nobody does. Another victim, Nader, Awad, reportedly helped draw the shooter away from the children and worshippers. Mosk Elder Mansour Kazia, a longtime community member, was also killed. Investigators say suspects were likely radicalized online communicated through their internet communities.

Focus on extremist content. I can go on talk about what's going on with these guys. Investigators said the suspects appeared inspired by mass attacks, secluding the 2019 Christ Church mosque shooting in New Zealand that took place. Sources say video allegedly showed the attack was posted online. So while this is going on, they find a manifest. I don't know how many pages it is. I think 74 is what I heard.

In the manifesto, in the manifesto, they're not on the left. They're not on the right. They're not, you know, they bash Jews. Their main thing is the number one threat to the world is Jews, right? the number one threat to the world is Jews. Then they talk about Muslims. Then they criticize the LGBTQ community. Then they say the conservatives aren't going far enough.

You become too soft. Then they criticize the liberal agenda of what they're at. And, you know, then they say they want to go take out the vice president. They threaten to want to take out the president and the vice president, a bunch of different names and stuff that they're going after. Extremely, you know, chaotic, traumatic event that obviously took place, Rob. Is this the authorities given the update of what happened? Yes.

Go for it. So I can't confirm there has been a manifesto that's been recovered. I would reiterate it's early on in the investigation. We are dedicating every resource the FBI has to conduct a thorough analysis of that manifesto to try to learn what led to this, but I think also more importantly, how can we stop future attacks? So I know there's a lot of questions related to this on the community. What I would just continue to reiterate is they didn't, they didn't, didn't discriminate on who they hated. It covered a wide aspect of races and religions.

More than just the Islam. You can pause it right there. Vinnie. Just evil, evil, and we've talked about it how many times manifested in two people that I have a bunch of things to talk about, Paph. First and foremost, where they get these guns? Apparently, allegedly, Rob, did they steal them from the parents or the mother or something like that? Problem number one. Problem number two. And I love that you said it. Because I got, people were messaging me, like, how, why aren't you guys condemning it that they shot Muslims and I was like, just should just, and blaming us for our rhetoric about criticizing Islam and Muslims that this is what caused it. These guys hated Jews, blamed Jews for everything, hated

Trump, wanted the left to murder Trump, wanted left to murder J.D. Vance, hated MAGA, hated women, hated gays, hated trans, hated Islam, hated immigrants, hated black people, and there were in cells, okay? And they said Jews were the number one problem and yet they go to a freaking mosque to shoot up. So everybody out there messaging me from Islam, and Muhammad shut to shut up. Okay? And then on top of it, to make things even crazier, the security guard who was murdered actually shared the shooters pro-Nazi ideology. The shooters had SS markings on their stuff.

The security guard posted pro-Hitler killing the Jews memes on social media, which is weird. And then the San Diego, one of the shooters, Pat, walked out of a mental health treatment center the day before the massacre. Okay? So how does this slip through the cracks? Where are the parents? Where are the friends? We're a society looking at these two freaking people

that are obviously open about their blatant hate for everybody and nobody says anything. Nobody. Like I guess two hours before Pat, somebody mentioned something or the mom was like, oh, he's crazy and be careful. Okay? So to blame this on somebody or asking other people

why they're not talking about, these people were that, you know what, crazy. And the ideology of these guys, it just shows the horseshoot theory of politics. very far left, very far right, becoming, you can't even tell them apart. That's it. Staples Preferred Business Membership, built for busy business owners, because you've got bigger things to think about.

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Yeah, I think this is a perfect example of what nihilism leads to and extremism and the type of rhetoric we see online. Just to bring up faith, I mean, this is a society that is losing faith and delving into extremism. Just the idea that all human life has value because it's created by God and is beautiful.

And what you touched on is truly the most tragic part of all. is that the extremist ideology that these guys went online and you can see everywhere. I turn on Instagram. I turn on TikTok. I see Nazi rhetoric everywhere. It's become completely normalized. Dehumanization online is out of control. And the very ideology, because Amin Abdullah, the security guard, who did tragically die.

Not a person soul. Yes, because it is tragic. I don't care what religion you are, but all of it's tragic. But it's so tragic to me that the very ideology he supported comfortably online because he didn't understand the consequence of that kind of extremism, Nazi ideology because he wrote faux show on a post about, do you now understand why Hitler did what he did?

He commented faux show on that, that his friend posted. That very ideology ended up being responsible for ending his life tragically. Extremism never stays isolated to the group you might believe it targets. It's a cancer. It spreads throughout society. I always say the solution to this is to veer away from

every message of identity politics, of extremism, all these things, and lean into God, lean into faith, and we're going to see more and more I open the internet and all I see, and maybe it's my algorithm, is just violence and the acceptance and normalization of violence. Whereas when I was a kid and faces of death came out that documentary... I remember that. It was devastating to watch it.

It was hard to watch it. Now the comments when we see this kind of extremism are, oh, good, another one, or oh, you know, whatever. Just the most negative, disgusting comments. We have to lean into God. We have to, as a society, and you were talking about humans want that connection. Humans want to... That's how we're going to save ourselves. We save ourselves through God.

We save ourselves through society leaning back into that because again, this guy Abnian Abdullah was an extremist in his own ideology and beliefs as well, as tragic as it was. So when you say God, though, some people have different gods. I think it's... Well, you know what my answer to that is. We are a Christian nation period, end of story.

That is the... Just like I won't go to Saudi Arabia and tell them to not be a Muslim country. If you're in America, we're a Christian country. And I don't see how that's controversial. Our foundational beliefs, our ethics and our morals are based on Christianity. I will fight for those ethics.

I will fight for that moral foundation because it is the ultimate solution to the kind of devastating extremism and lack of identity that we see happening right now. Tom. Well, it's been said before, and you've said it, Pat, Professor Galloway, Scott Galloway has said it,

when young men have a hole in their heart and they have economic and relational hollowness and, you know, I'll add everything else that we have to it. You don't have a sense of purpose. in life and what the society around you, and your parents are responsible, they have to be involved, but when the society around you is not, is divided on purpose, and when we go into election season and we're venomous to the point of wishing harm on each other, and that's the backdrop. That's not the cause of it.

That's a backdrop. What do they put in their heart? You know, it's really funny. This isn't funny. I'm saying this is ironic. The Reverend E.V. Hill, who served young men in South Central Los Angeles, pointed out that men at 14 to 17, it was critical for men to feel love, discipline, and respect. And that the broken homes, and he was speaking about African-American homes,

the broken homes in downtown L.A., where there was not a father present, that the gangs provided love, discipline, and respect to these young teenage men in the exact opposite and horribly perverse way. And so people say, how could they join the gangs? They're finding the inverse of what their heart and their soul is crying out for. And this goes back, Evie Hill passed away in 2003. So this is before the waves of social media and everything, but he was right. And now we're seeing it today, these young men, are now able to dive in through online access to all of the other, you know, essences to research the things these guys are researching and become completely antisocial in its completion. And this is, we need foundation of family and faith.

That's it. It's not a long speech from this man talking. Family and faith is a foundation that we need, big brothers, big sisters. That's where we're going to start the path forward. Go forward, Adam. For sure, we need more God in this country. I was just lucky enough to be in D.C. meeting with Speaker Mike Johnson and was all about the main words where the speaker speaks, right where Donald Trump gives his speeches, in God we trust.

And he talked about Christianity in a Christian country and Judeo-Christian values. And as Mike Johnson speaking, he looks right across. And he says, look at all the faces. along the wall. Who's the face in front of all of us right now? Because it's Moses. He gave us the Ten Commandments, which started all this. Old Testament, New Testament.

Mike Johnson, very sharp. He praised Christian, just all about everything American and Christianity. Also does a great Trump impression, by the way. But this conversation about this San Diego church, not a church. I'm sorry, Mosque. Never, I don't think it should be a controversial statement.

you know, let's keep schools, religious organizations, structures, keep the guns and shooting away. But I do find it somewhat ironic that a mosque that has been accused and, if not convicted, of radicalizing their population, has been basically been victimized by radicalism, by just a different type of radicalism. because I don't know how much like this brought attention to the mosque. What is this mosque? People want to focus on these two loser kids that have been racist and rattled cries,

but what's up with this mosque? Because they hate the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews, but they also hit the gays and the fags, but that, blah, blah, blah. But then I'm like, what's going on with this mosque? And this mosque turns out that the 9-11 hijackers, this was their mosque. And it turns out that

the Muslim Brotherhood allegedly hanging out of this mosque, follow the money, right? Turns out that care, not care like hearts, the counselor for American Islamic relations care is basically operating out of here. I'm just asking questions and connecting dots. But this specific mosque has been correlated

with a lot of stuff that we need to look into, and of course as much as recently as justifying terrorism and after October 7th. This mosque, as much as a lot of mosques, unfortunately, have gone from a place of worship, which it should be, to a national security threat. So this is a horrible thing and a tragic thing that happened here. And thank God that innocent victims were not killed.

At the same time, what's actually going on in this mosque? That's what I want to know. Rob, go back to where you were at a minute ago? What were you at a minute ago on that Wikipedia, where you found... That looked like Muhammad Al-Ata, one of the hijackers from... The first hijackers around the United States on San Diego, California, January, somewhere else.

Is there going to do some? Okay, got it. Listen, I'm sure a lot of other things is going to come out as this is happening. The reality of it is, I don't care what side of the extremist it is. I don't want any of it. I don't want any of it, period. And zero, none of it. And God willing, you know, our FBI can get to the bottom of it to see what else we can learn from it

to prevent other events happening in the future. With that being said, we are at the end of the podcast. folks, if you didn't get a chance to go in, pick up your Here Ami gifts for yourself or your loved ones, go to VTemerch.com, place your order before these things sell out, which they will, and support it in your communities. The more we represent, Future Looks Bright, Faith Over Fear, Here Ami, the more it will inspire others to do the follow. Like I told the story, every time I wait Future Looks Bright, people give me a look and they ask, you really believe that? You really believe that? I do. I do. I do believe that. Why? You know, my pastor, it's so funny, Tom. I don't know if you saw this or not. Everyone's texting me saying, you know, Dudley did a video and he said something about you on stage. I'm like, I can't find sermon which one it was. He says, yeah, he did. And so, Rob, let me see if I can send this to you.

He's doing a service at his church. And I'll try to forward this to you to see if we can show it. And he opens up the sermon with this, which was fantastic. I love Dudley. We've got to figure out of way to bring Dudley to. He's such a great guy. I've been trying to get him to come down here to do a sermon at one of the churches. Either Calvary or Presbyterian or a local Fort Lauderdale, Florida Church needs to invite him. We can pack the place out. So this is Dudley. He says this, Rob, if you want to download it and play.

Maybe fast forward to like right in the middle of it. Right in the middle of it. Okay, right there is fine. Press play. Volunteer and the people who lead that choir. It's the greatest pastor in America, in my opinion. Would you thank all those people for me. The greatest.

Pastor in America. He married us, loved this guy. A friend named Patrick Bet David, and he always says the future looks bright. And I truly believe that when God sees these young people on this stage, worshiping the Lord with all of their heart, that nothing makes God as happy as that, except for maybe when somebody comes to faith in Jesus. Amen. There you go.

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