PBD Podcast - Trump’s Iran Deal, Oil Drops Hard, New Epstein Report | PBD #818

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

John Morgan joins Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Adam Sosnick, and Vincent Oshana to break down Trump’s 60 million UFC Freedom 250 event at the White House, the foiled drone and sniper plot, and ...how Trump’s new Iran deal is already shaking oil, gas, and geopolitics.------🧑‍🧑‍🧒‍🧒 HOW TO RAISE STRONG KIDS: FREE LIVE WEBINAR: https://bit.ly/4fRBuik 🦁 THE VAULT 2026: AUG 31ST TO SEPT 1ST: https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD😆 CHECK OUT VENTING WITH VINNIE: https://youtube.com/live/XTIx7FCjl_8🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpwⓂ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj🇰 KALSHI: ⁠http://kalshi.com/pbd⁠SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT   @ValuetainmentComedy ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Did you ever think you would make you it? I feel I'm so much like it takes sweet with a story. I know this life's meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signs. Right here. You are a one of one?
Starting point is 00:00:19 My son's right there. I think I've ever said this before. We got the special John Morgan in the house. Pac-A-D-Jon, John. How are you? Good to be back. Great to have you back on. We have his new book that just came out. Life is luck. If you haven't ordered it yet, put the link below.
Starting point is 00:00:38 We're going to learn a lot about John. We got a lot of stories to talk about. Gas prices. Tom, oil prices, what right now? 76. Down to 76, which is good. The Iran deal signed June 14th. Somebody hinted it was going to be on June 14th. I know that guy.
Starting point is 00:00:53 And so that's done. New York Times comes out with a second edition of the Epstein story, which we'll get into. Gavin Newsom's wife, Vinnie, Jennifer, I think, was tied into something. Newsom is saying he's coming after. I want to know what John you think about that. We'll get into that as well. The president said Israel wouldn't exist without the U.S. Mike Huckabee comes back and says U.S. wouldn't exist without Israel.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Thoughts on that. Pride night. Vinny's been celebrating for the entire month. He's kind of disappointed the month's coming to an end. Yes. But MLB, MLB has said that you can't even put certain scripture on your hat right now. So I know you're not too happy about that. Those who follow Messi.
Starting point is 00:01:27 He had a hat trick yesterday. Incredible. First time ever. He had a hat trick in the World Cup. Against Zed Don. bunch of records himself against Zidon, son as the goalie of Algeria. And Boppe had two goals. I think Holland had two goals.
Starting point is 00:01:40 He crushed for Norway. It looked very good. And then aside from that couple other stories that we've got to get into as well is, you know how Chick-fil-A was always known for the best, you know, you work there, they give you the best customer service. It's no longer Chick-fil-A. Somebody took over Chick-flay. They're furious.
Starting point is 00:01:55 They're so furious. They're thinking about opening back up on Sundays. What? Because, you know, they're always closed on Sunday. I don't think they're going to do it. That's my speculation. but somebody took over and the first name of that restaurant starts with Jersey. And the last one is a guy named Mike.
Starting point is 00:02:09 So combine it together. Let's agree with that or not. SpaceX, Michael Burry wants to short SpaceX, although the stock's been going up left and right. And then last but not least, finally, Russell Crowe comes out and makes comments about gladiator. I don't know if you had a chance to watch gladiator two or not.
Starting point is 00:02:28 He had different thoughts. We got to talk about it. I'm a big gladiator guy. I'm not too happy about. what they did with this one. And aside from that, we may have a couple other stories. Now, for those guys that are watching, for the great fathers, your boxes are coming to you this week.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I can't wait for you guys to you. We sold out. 500 boxes went out, so someone's getting it. Very happy about that. However, I'm hosting a free webinar specifically for those who are fathers, and I want you to watch this video to find out when the dates are. Go ahead, Jake. Can't hear the audio, guys.
Starting point is 00:03:02 We can't hear it. Can you go back to the video and put the audio? I want to set that up. We are standing by, but we're right. We're not going anywhere. We're here. You're going to go back and start from the beginning. Do it again.
Starting point is 00:03:28 You might want to set it up, Pat. All right, let me just do it from the beginning. Guys, hang on a second. If you are a father and you want to find out how to raise strong kids in this crazy time that we're living in, I'm hosting a free webinar again. Watch this video. Go for it.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Father, one of the most powerful quotes I ever heard was the following. Your ceiling is your kid's floor. Let me say it one more time. Your ceiling is your kid's floor. The more we raise the standards on the way we lead, on the way we live, on the way we make money, on the way we take care of our kids, that becomes the floor for them to go above it. So if you're watching us, I know deep down the side, we all want to be great fathers.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Legacy matters to you, you want to raise them well, you want to look at them, do great things bigger than you and I did in our lives, right? If that's important to you, because I know it is, July 1st, 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. I'm doing a free webinar to share with you what's worked for me and what hasn't. If you want to be a part of it, click on a link above or below. Register. I'll look forward to seeing you there. Do we know what website is to go register for, Humberto? Do we know the site on where to go to?
Starting point is 00:04:34 We're going to put the link below or above. Is there a site? Because there's a site that we typically use. what is the site what's the site the domain Alicia doesn't have it written here if we have the domain to give it out
Starting point is 00:04:47 that'd be great can I give a little respect to whoever put this thing together I can't wait for it looks great I can't wait for it but there's a site that we drive it to Humberton can't hear you guys
Starting point is 00:05:00 VTWebinar.com so typically when we do this kind of stuff for the team in the back for the Spotify guys it's good to give the domain as well. Go to vtwebinar.com to register. Go to vtwebinar.com to register. Everybody at the end will get the notes to be given.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Ten conversations you should have with your sons, a bunch of different things, six different types of fathers. If you haven't registered for, go to VTWebinar.com. Register, we look forward to seeing you there. With that being said, let's get right into it. The first topic I want to talk about is the Iran deal. So, Tom, your first reaction, we're in D.C.,
Starting point is 00:05:36 we're at the White House event, We're having an incredible time. Jets are flying over, right? All this crazy shit's going down with the jets flying over. The fight, Tuporia, nobody thought Tuporia was going to lose to Justin Gagy. You have all this other stuff with Ghania takes out the giant, right? What's his name? What's the guy that he beat, Pereira, right?
Starting point is 00:05:57 All this stuff that has taken place. But then on that day, on his birthday, he does the Iran deal. Initial reaction to Tom, what are your thoughts? Well, the initial reaction was, wow, what are the points? What are the points there? Are they going to give up the uranium? That was one of the reasons we were there, you know, bombing and trying to bring them to their knees. When is the oil going to be released?
Starting point is 00:06:19 But what was really amazing was that they got to a milestone, and I'm thinking, okay, are we going to go back? Are we just going to find out tomorrow? Oh, they didn't do it. And they were bombing again. They didn't do it. But then we see things from, what was it, Pat? The Pakistani Istanbul? The Pakistanis are saying, no.
Starting point is 00:06:35 this is real. We helped with some of the intermediation. No, this is real. And started hearing it was real. So the first reaction was, wow, thank goodness, this is coming to an end. Now, where's the fine print? Do we get what we want? Do we get there? But the reaction that I was having at that time to the initial headlines was, hey, this looks real. This looks like it's happening. So it felt good about that. The 14 points come out, and there was a lot of diplomatic stuff in them. And it's like 60 days. It's just a memo of understanding. like, uh-oh, is this like a ceasefire that could go sideways? But they got it done on the 14th. And the key things that were in there was the straits going to be open, oil's going to get through. Within 30 days, one of the points in the 14 points that was released by Reuters today, was that within 30 days, the number of tankers and the millions of barrels of oil per day needs to be at the level it was back on February 20th before the war. started. We want to get back there. So 30 days, we want to get back to the February 20th, open, lots of ships going back and forth. There was that, and then it was this weird point that said,
Starting point is 00:07:45 we want the status quo on the uranium, uranium, and then we'll negotiate over the next 60 days. So that one was, I wanted to see something more definitive, but the point today simply says there will be status quo on where uranium is. So I'm optimistic at this time. The markets are reacting well. I'm glad we're here. I'm crossing my fingers. This isn't a ceasefire that at the end of these 60 days, we have a hard agreement and we have things moving forward. And I was very glad to see Lebanon's part of it. Adam. Look, a good friend of mine called it. June 14th. I don't know if we want to play that or anything like that. But I have a good friend of mine who I doubted maybe 2%. I was like, I don't know, Pat. Two percent. It was not 2%. You were like it's going to take me, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:33 I'm not really in a hurry how long it's going to take. The deal is going to take until the end of the year. We have the great John Morgan here. Don't say 2%. Come on. I believed in it, but I doubted it. But here's the, I'm with you. Here's the dirty little secret.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Here's the deal. Trump is the greatest showman and marketer we've ever seen maybe in America, certainly as the president. He's working on this big deal. He's not letting anything, friends, allies, enemies, get in the way of, on his birthday, UFC, 250, we got a deal. Here's the dirty little secret. They don't really have a deal.
Starting point is 00:09:13 They have a memorandum of understanding. And what are the chances there's going to be a little misunderstanding in the next 60 days? I think there will be. This isn't really a peace deal. So you know how we always say short-term pain for the long-term game? This deal is kind of like short-term gain for long-term pain.
Starting point is 00:09:33 because in my prediction, Trump is basically saying, listen, we got to get stuff done before Labor Day, right? Because that's basically when election season kicks off. So let me just smooth this over for 60 days. And honestly, I could see Trump flipping this, winning the midterms, and you know what might happen after the midterms? Don't tell Iran, well, he might bond them again.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Because what's the chances you trust Iran and the IRGC? And I'll just end with this. There's some winners and losers of this potential deal. Number one, it's Trump, big winner here. right the irgc big winner here if they can stay in power are you kidding me um big loser here unfortunately will be the iranian people whatever way you cut it they will not be free we'll see what ends up happening in the deal there's a lot of people complaining i'm grateful no matter what that trump is the president and nobody else let me come to you viny but before i do let me kind
Starting point is 00:10:25 of give you an idea what these 14 points they're talking about immediate ceasefire of hostilities number to end of fighting in Lebanon involving Iran-backed groups, reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, free commercial shipping through Hormuz, U.S. Navy blockade on Iranian ports lifted, no new U.S. sanctions during negotiations, waivers allowing Iranian oil exports, release of frozen Iranian assets, roughly $24 to $25 billion,
Starting point is 00:10:51 roadmap to lift U.S. and possibly U.N. sanctions. Iran pledges not to build nuclear weapons. Iran freezes expansion of enrichment of nuclear facility, the 60-day negotiation period for a final nuclear agreement. U.S.-backed reconstruction development fund for Iran reports range $300 billion, discussion of broader regional security arrangements and troop reductions, withdraw if a final agreement is reached. Vinnie?
Starting point is 00:11:17 Well, Adam, Adam's less, not, I want to say less optimistic. I'm a little bit more optimistic. I mean, like you said, Adam. I didn't see that one coming. 80 years old, 80 years old birthday. UFC fight on the people's lawn. Am I right time?
Starting point is 00:11:32 He called it the people's lawn. At some point, he reminded everybody that the White House is the peoples. Yeah, and our good friend, Patrick McDavid, David, said it was going to be done by his birthday. I'm more optimistic because, bro, and I said this yesterday that America is back. He's right now...
Starting point is 00:11:46 And, buddy, when it was all over, he got on a plane at 3 o'clock in the morning and flew to Canada for a G-7 summit. No, France. France. Oh, France. And then he walked in... Canada would have been a hour flight.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Flewley. They got drive to McDonald's and Canada. Canada on the way there. And then he walks in and what does he say when he gets to that round table? He goes, I'm the boss because he is. Okay? It's been a couple days.
Starting point is 00:12:07 There is no bombing. Everybody's calm down. But I mean, just give him. I'm more optimistic at him because this guy and a lot of people are like, he's not calling the shots. He's controlled. Let me explain some to you.
Starting point is 00:12:18 He has people in his ear. I think people are trying to persuade him. At the end of the day, nobody tells President Trump what to do. He calls the shots at the end of the end. of the day and I don't care which way you try to sway. By the way, Pat makes all the decisions. You don't think I give Pat some advice?
Starting point is 00:12:34 I go, Pat, maybe this. You give him Adam different advice. Tom gives him different advice. Right now, if he asks him about the topic, Mr. Morgan's going to give him different advice. At the end of the day, he's making all the decisions and he's calling the shots. And I think that's what Trump is doing. Period. Adam said something. He said, hey, you know, they don't have a deal.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And the only thing I like to say is the U.S. says that they've got a deal. Iran even said they have a deal. How many times did we have the ceasefire and Iran said, I didn't really agree to any. I really haven't agreed anything. That's not happening now. Both sides are saying, yep, this is our MOU. We're going to sign it this week. Pakistanis are saying, yep, I'm in the middle of this too. That's the first time everybody's been around the table all saying, you know, I think we have something of an agreement here. Great. John, your thoughts on this. Are you optimistic? You think something good is happening? Here's what I think. And it's going to be a different
Starting point is 00:13:21 take than everybody else's when you said he's 80 years old. Look, he became president talking about no more wars. You know, he blasted no more wars. But he got here and he's 80 years old. And he's looking to the future. The future to him is like mine shorter than your future and your future just by age. But yet he's made a decision to do this. This whole thing is driven by nuclear holocaust from Iran. He could have kicked the can, but he didn't. He decided it to do this. And when he did it, he knew what was going to happen. He knew that gas prices would go up.
Starting point is 00:14:07 He knew affordability was the issue he got elected on. He knew that was the issue that would drive his poll numbers down. And guess what? His poll numbers have been driven down as a result of this. But here's where I think that Trump's going to be rewarded. When he said he doesn't care about the midterms, he does very much. That's why they're trying to change districts all over the country. When he says he doesn't care about inflation, he does.
Starting point is 00:14:34 But it turns out that this guy would rather leave us, the world, not us, the world, in a safer position because nuclear weapons in the hands of those maniacs is the most dangerous thing facing us and our children. and Israel's not happy about it because I don't know if the uranium's ever going to be taken, the dust or whatever they call it. But I think the secret message, and if I was the Trump, if I was Susie Wiles and James Blair, what I'd be talking about is he's putting his own personal popularity over his present popularity for the rest of us. And a nuclear Iran is a danger to the world, the most dangerous in the whole world.
Starting point is 00:15:23 because they think that when they die, they go to seven black-eyed virgins. So they're okay with nuclear holocaust, you know. Seven, seven black-guide? Oh, black-eyed. 72 black-eyed. You're going to say seven black guy virgins. That's like a, that's very rare. That's an oxymoron.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And where the hell would you find that? That's an oxymoron. confusing. But yeah, so I think, I think, and look, and by the way, while he's at it, he's jerking Hugo, or he's jerking the Venezuelan guy out of his bed. He's got the Castro's under the couch. He is doing some serious, serious house cleaning for the world on his 80th birthday. And I think that's going to be a secret story that'll be told later to his benefit.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Can I add one thing? Sure. Not even about Iran about what he's doing for the world. I found it a little ironic because he flew out to the G7. And to see the leaders of the world, Macron, Italy, Kirstormer, Georgia Maloney, all these people, line up like school children to take pictures with the guy that's in charge of the world. And here's what I know. Trump's the leader of the free world.
Starting point is 00:16:44 He knows it. And more importantly, they know it. So the message for all the Democrats out there, for the people who hate Trump, world leaders are lining up in line like it's seeing Michael Jordan to take a selfie. So if the world leaders are getting behind Trump saying this guy's in charge of the free world, maybe you should consider what they're doing. I'll just want to add that because he's in charge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:04 And by the way, while this is happening, Humerto, is this the clip you guys got here? Let's play the clip. Everybody kept saying, why are you June 14, June 14th? Go on play this clip here. Go forward. Great suit. By what date does it need to turn around before it's over for the midterms? What, give me a date, Tom?
Starting point is 00:17:24 Pre-world cup. Pre-world cup. My date for him is June 14th. Bingo. My date is June 14th. Yeah. I've said it June 14 is a June 13, June 14 is a day to get a wrapped up. And you know what they said yesterday?
Starting point is 00:17:34 It's as if they're watching a podcast. You know what they said? They said Trump's day to get this thing done is June 14th. A lot of people, if you go to Calci, oh, this thing's not going to get down till next year. It's not going to get down until September. It's not going to get down until July. I said it's going to get done before June 14th. What do you think our deadline is?
Starting point is 00:17:52 June 14th is our deadline. Why is that specific number? World Cup starts. It's Trump's birthday. Everybody will forget about Iran come August, September, and we'll be moving on with interest rates going lower, gas prices going lower. Economy coming back up.
Starting point is 00:18:04 We're going to be looking at World Cup, Fourth of July celebration, 250 years. But U.S. has a deadline. U.S.'s deadline is June 14. Can you imagine this guy gets him done on his birthday? And he's going into, FYI. UFC's going on, he's shaking hands, then he's flying to Paris to go meet with Macron. When he pulls up to the desk, I don't know if you guys have that clip.
Starting point is 00:18:21 He pulls up there, he says, hey, the boss is here, right? He's talking to Macron. Then there's conversations that I don't know if you guys have that clip in the back of the boss is here. Connor or Humberto, if you guys do if you want to pull that up. If not, he pulls up there. He has that meeting. He is talking to them. They're asking about Dana.
Starting point is 00:18:38 He says, Dana's great. Dana's great. He put the UFC fight. Yeah, this is the clip right here. Watch this, folks. He pulls up telling anybody he's the. boss. I'm the boss.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yes, he is. Was he like joking when he said that? He told him joking, but they know he's the boss. But he is. That's the whole point. Kier Starmer doesn't show up. Macron says, let's get started anyways without Ikear Starmer. So you got to realize at this point of the game, you can say whatever you want about
Starting point is 00:19:03 him. He has gained credibility amongst who, his peers, his enemies, his allies. They're sitting there saying, damn it, this was a guy that we thought he was a TV show guy, but apparently he is a lot more than that. And one of the conversations that was had guys in the back, if you want to prepare this, is when he said, you know, the reporter asked a question, what do you think about Israel if they go out there and attack and they hit another Hezbollah? I want to leave it to the Syrians.
Starting point is 00:19:30 You'd realize if it wasn't for U.S., Israel wouldn't exist. That whole exchange, there's two clips. If you can find that clip, and then after that clip, I want to go to Mike Cuccobee, because I want to get your thoughts on this. I love it when I see the president, putting his, position out there. Now, you've got to keep in mind. These comments that he makes here, a lot of Iranians are not happy about this comment. And you see which one I'm talking about. There's a comment that he makes. Guys, do you know which clip I'm talking about in the back
Starting point is 00:19:57 Conor and Humberto if you guys are looking for it? There is a very, very interesting moment. This is it. I think this is it. Go forward. Israel's fighting Islam. Too long and too many people are being killed. And you don't have to knock down an apartment house every time you're looking for something. somebody because there are a lot of people in those apartment houses and they're not all Hezbollah that I can tell you and I suggested to Israel to let Syria take care of Hezbollah because to be honest with you I think they'd do a better job of doing it and I didn't like Syria I didn't like where two hours before we're signing the agreement that there
Starting point is 00:20:41 There was an attack in Lebanon, in Beirut. It wasn't like in the southern side, you know, it was in Beirut. I did not like that. I let them know that. I love that he's saying this problem. I didn't like it, not at all. But I think that Syria, you know, he's pulled that country together amazingly quickly. He's very capable.
Starting point is 00:21:01 And he's been very good for me. He's protected everything that I've asked for. He's done. And you missed the one part of you. He can't do the job without killing everyone. else. There was, this wasn't a clip. There was another clip where he says Israel wouldn't exist without the U.S. and in Huckabry response to, this is the clip I was looking for. Go forward. But you wouldn't have, if it weren't for the United States of America, with me, because
Starting point is 00:21:27 Obama was the opposite, Israel would not exist right now. Israel would have been blown off the face of the earth, 100%. And every smart person in Israel knows that. Okay. Okay, so then go to Huckabee's clip. Go to Huckabee's clip on what Huckabee says, because Huckabee responds in a complete different one. By the way, first time I saw the Huckabee clip, you know what's the first thing I thought about? I said, this has to be a year old.
Starting point is 00:21:52 This has to be 18 months old. This can't be new. This cannot be a reaction to what the president said. Go forward. It's also my job to represent the importance of Israel to the United States. This is just another reminder that it is your heritage without a doubt.
Starting point is 00:22:13 But minister, it is also the heritage of the United States. Without Israel, without the Jewish Foundation, there would not be an America. We owe our very existence for what happened in this land. Tom, what problem do you have? Is there anything wrong with what he just said? Or is there an issue here? Well, you have to dive down pretty deep. but I think Mike Huckabee did a very poor job communicating that.
Starting point is 00:22:41 He should be talking about, listen, the pages of history, the hinge of history, are very dating system, BC before Christ, AD, A.D. A. A. D. Anodominee. Well, wait a minute. What he's saying is Israel was the, where Western civilization starts after Israel falls, after Christ ascends, after then, you know, Catholicism emerges in Europe. Yeah, if you want to go back there, you know, you can do that. But what he's doing at a, you know, at a pro, is he said it is my job. I'd like to know who he's lobbying for.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And I just think it was poorly stated. He can say, listen, Western civilization dates back to my heritage, Christ and then Israel and then all of the, you know, the countries that were back in those days. He could say that. But when you say it that way, you're making it sound like we're in post-World War II, helping people get back over the right boundaries of their country. I think it was poorly stated. John, do you have a problem with that?
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Starting point is 00:24:15 They were given a sliver of really a bullshit piece of land They turned it into this oasis And now people want the oasis After they turned it into what they turned it into And Iran Wants to wipe them off the face of the earth I mean, imagine living next door to neighbors who you could see in their house and they're moving around with weapons. And so it's self-preservation for, I don't get into all the biblical stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I get into, you know, Hitler, the relocation of the Jews. They set it up. And look, they had to fight because, you know, the war, whatever the war was in the 60s, I mean, people have been trying to take their land forever and ever and ever and ever. what other options do they have? So Mike Huckabah with all that, you know, I agree with you, going back to before Christ and all that is I go from right after Hitler. Benny. I mean, Mike Huckabee, you know, what's his job? He's the ambassador. And again, I agree with Tom. He's in front of an audience. He's going old school, old school. We wouldn't be here because of Israel from the Bible. But I mean, you're like,
Starting point is 00:25:30 where is he? Was he in Israel or was he here making that speech? So he's obviously pandering to their crowd. That's what he's asked to do. No question. Oh, me? Look, they're both right. This isn't a lowest common denominator. I mean, America wouldn't exist without the biblical prophecy of essentially the old Hebrews. When the pilgrims came to America, why would they call the pilgrims? Because they were making pilgrimage, and they viewed, they're leaving the old world as an exodus to the new world, where they set up. They set up Salem, you know, the Salem witch trials. Why was it called Salem?
Starting point is 00:26:06 Like Jerusalem. So to try to separate the branch of Christianity, which led to America from the tree, I think, is a fruitless endeavor. I think there's a shared common values of the Judeo-Christian values of the Bible of Moses. I told you the story when I met with Mike Johnson, and we looked in the House of Representatives, and he said, listen, there's two things I want you to focus on in this entire room. In the entire room, he said, in God we trust and turn right around, there's Moses giving us the Ten Commandments. This doesn't have to be a bipartisan or a lowest common denominator thing. They're shared values, and they're both right.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And by the way, Trump is absolutely right. Trump has reshaped Israel to be what they are today. And for anyone that is pro-Israel that is not grateful for Trump, shut up. You're not going to get what you want with everything. By the way, that goes for the MAGA people who are basically like, I'm not a fan of Trump anymore because he attacked Iran. So you're going to leave the guy that got you to the dance because you don't agree with one thing to the Trump haters
Starting point is 00:27:09 and the Trump lovers appreciate what we got and stop focusing on the negatives. Tom, you look like you want to react. Yeah, there's something else that was in what Trump said. I agreed. What Trump said was correct. If it wasn't for us, there wouldn't be Israel. But who did he call on and support when he was talking about the region? Syria.
Starting point is 00:27:26 We have to remember what happened when Bashar al-Hazad fell. That was a full regime. change and Ahmed al-Shara is the new leader of Syria. What did he do? He went out and said, we can't have this ISIS crap. We Syria hereby joins the anti-ISIS coalition. First, second, they went and they made peace with Turkey and Turkey committed to provide military support and defense to Syria. And then Syria joined with U.S. and others saying, we have to stop Iranian funding of Hezbollah that's right across our border here in Lebanon. So Trump is also saying something that I think we need to back up and realize Syria has flipped.
Starting point is 00:28:15 We're talking about regime change in the Middle East. Syria turned and is now in a position to do exactly what he talked about. So I think he was right on Israel, but also we should pay attention to what he said about Syria. Yeah, I just have a response on the Syria thing. if there's one thing that I'm like, yeah, I don't know about that, President Trump. It's this whole breakdown of what he thinks Syria is. Syria is a fallen state that is being run by this guy, Jalani, who's literally a former Al-Qaeda terrorist. That's probably responsible for a lot of our allies and American deaths.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Let's get real here. And the fact that Trump was like, listen, let's just have Syria take care of Lebanon. You know what? Go right ahead. leave Israel out of it. What could go wrong when Sunni militants from Al-Qaeda clash with Shi'i militants from Hasbola? What could go wrong? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:07 A million people dead from the Syrian Civil War not too long ago. So I would pump the brakes on trusting in Al-Qaeda terrorists to bring peace to the region. One thing you got to remember about Trump. I'm saying that. I'm not saying you saying that. I'm saying that. About Trump is, I think one of his philosophies is you should take care of your I mean, when he looked at NATO, he was like, you all need to do more to take care of yourself.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Now, there's some risk in that because Germany becomes reconstituted because they're not stupid people, but you should take care of yourself. He pulls the Venezuelan president out. He tells the woman, I can pull you out next unless you get in line. Guess what? She's in line. She's in line. You guys are smart.
Starting point is 00:29:55 You all know more than the national press. And so, you know, and his whole concept is when he talks about America first, I think, is we'll take care of you if we have to. But generally speaking, you take care of yourself. And I think that's why he's saying to Syria, you take care of yourself. I'm never worried about Israel. Israel will always take care of themselves. Can I give him credit? I think this deal is the most America First deal possible.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah. Why? Israel's a little upset. Bebe Netanyahu ain't happy. Right, right. He wasn't even in the negotiations. That's right. The Iranian people aren't exactly thrilled to hear that the IRGC is going to stay in power. There's a lot of people that are unhappy.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And you know who should be a little bit more happy and grateful? All the America first Trump haters who were criticizing him, he basically sold out Israel. and by the way as a pro-Israel person I'm not complaining because I'm more grateful for Trump than I am complaining about things that I'm listening. This is what I love because every
Starting point is 00:31:01 contradiction got exposed in a two-minute clip. One, who does Huckabee work for? United States. So what does you have to defend? United States. Why are you reacting to what the president said? I don't like that. By the way, if you worked for me and you did that, I wouldn't be happy about
Starting point is 00:31:18 that. I would say, what are you doing? What are you doing? Reacting to me? me in another country, I gave you the job. What are you doing reacting like that? You're not validating my point. You're undermining me. I'm not okay with that. I actually didn't like that. And I'm a big fan of Huckabee. I think Huckabee's actually a good man. I don't like what he did right there. So number two, a lot of Iranians are not happy. A lot of Iranians, there was a clip with J.D. Vance, I believe was with Megan Kelly. If you guys can find this, where J.D. Vand says, you think this was positioned up to put Reza Pahlavi? If you just type in J.D. Vanz, Rezaa,
Starting point is 00:31:51 Megan Kelly on X, it'll come up. So a lot of Iranians are like, and by the way, to Iranians, I actually understand when they say, you said regime change. You said Iranian people stay out there. You said regime collapse. You said IRG says it's going to be gone. So he did say that. He did make that point. So the Iranians are like, what happened to it? But maybe because they didn't find a replacement. In the recording when he says, I placed them there when he said Syria. I placed them there. What does I place them there mean? Him and Erdogan kind of helped. But what is he saying?
Starting point is 00:32:24 I placed them there. I put him there. Okay. I'm in charge of him. So if he says I placed them there, does that mean he has the ability to place people in places? Yes. Or remove them. Or remove them. But I placed them there is you can do it again with somebody else.
Starting point is 00:32:37 But here's J.D. Vanceau Megan Kelly. Go forward. Of 95 billion people wearing in. Guys, let's clip plain in the background. Can you turn off the other clip on the background? This happens, everyone. in a while. You got another clip that's playing another place in the background.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Did you guys find it? Go for it. Of 95. I still hear of the president. So anyways, there's this clip that happens where he says JD band says, you know, we could have easily, like, you think the president was going to place Resa Palo be there? Well, guess what? A lot of people thought he was. A lot of people
Starting point is 00:33:14 thought this was going to happen. I'll just play it off my phone so you guys can't go forward. Of 95 million people where again, the president of the United States never said that his goal was to install Reza Pavlovi to become the new leader of Iran. What he said is if the Iranian people want to rise up, great. That's their business. That's between them and their government. What we want is a cessation of their nuclear program, either through diplomatic means or through military means as he ultimately went down that pathway.
Starting point is 00:33:43 So great J.D. Vance, the great communicator, he can communicate this message to Megan Kelly. if Trump really wanted to place Reza Pahlavi, could he have done it? If he wanted to. Why didn't he do it? He said he wasn't a strong leader. He saw it through him and he was like... He said he was a nice guy. He said he was a nice guy and that was it.
Starting point is 00:33:58 So now the Iranian people are furious because that didn't happen. Okay, so one, he calls that BB publicly, which I thought he was his puppet. No, Israel's not happy. The Iranian people are not happy. The people that were saying, hey, I thought you were non-interventionist. want any wars, any of that stuff. He's pulling out. He could have stayed there for a while. The, what do you call it, the uranium is out. The only thing that becomes problematic here where it so is that the negotiation was lost to following. The part I'm not happy about is the
Starting point is 00:34:32 $300 billion. It's the part I'm not happy about it, because that is a form of I'm giving you the money. Now, if you go read the book, Economic Hitman, this is a business model where you come in and you put your people in. I don't know if that makes sense or not. So if you come in and you build $300 billion in a country and I'm building those in, I'm officially slowly crawling into your system. So I slowly have access to what's going to be happening
Starting point is 00:34:57 in the next decade or two. The difference is it's going to be under a different president, so who knows what is going to happen. But there's no question that this man just proved he's America first. No question. He made a lot of enemies with this deal. And he's saying, no, this is what we're doing. We're moving on.
Starting point is 00:35:11 And he's validating the fact that, Hey, do you think if Iran was easier to take over today would have been a regime change or a regime collapse? Oh, yeah. Okay. So which means we learned what? It's hard to do. Iran is a lot harder than Venezuela. Iran is not Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:35:26 It's because Iran will kill themselves, kill their own people before they cut a deal to the enemy. Sure. But the point is, you have to also sit there and say, is this worth the Jews? Is it worth the what, sir? Is it worth the juice of us going there? J-U-I-C-E-W-S-E. I said, what did you say, sir? So is it worth the Jews?
Starting point is 00:35:46 And he's sitting there saying, no, I'm going to come back and do it this way, and here's what we're going to be doing. And the market is like, people were so confused. But just yesterday at the Iran game, guys, I don't know if you have these clips or not. I'll send you some of these clips. I don't know if you guys saw this or not. Did you see any of the stuff that was going on in the game? I saw afterwards of them fighting and say, hey, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:08 I'll send you this one here to show fights after fights after fights. fights with people that are wearing the two different colored, two different colored, what do you call it? At the Iran gang, the Iran flag? If you play the one I sent you, because there's a lot of them, I like the one that I just sent you. There's quite a few of them to pick from. That's one of them I like the games going on. Iran's playing. Iranians are outside.
Starting point is 00:36:32 This is in L.A. by the way, right? This is, I think it's in L.A. at Soapy Stadium. And you're seeing them screaming at each other in Farsi. If you don't speak Farsi, you want to understand what they're saying. press that audio button on the bottom right guys before you press play thank you go for it so she's wearing the irgc flag yeah this lady's wearing the irggyc flag this lady of course of course she's got her hair covered yeah it's not very ladylike but the other ones are this one they're wearing the shahan shahi the shahs flag and they're call them terrorists he's saying
Starting point is 00:37:08 shame on you yes shame shame shame Like in Lord of the Ring Game of Thrones. Gosh, yeah, you're Shama. By the way, this is FY, you can pause it right there. You can literally find thousands of clips like this. Yeah. Of what happened at the game. John.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I don't know why she wore the flag. I mean, you're looking for you walking into a bullring with a red cape around your back. I mean, she's looking for trouble. In L.A.? Yeah. And so that's the part where Iranians are sitting there saying, you promise this, this, you promise us that. And if they have to choose between blaming Trump or blaming the son,
Starting point is 00:37:58 nine out of ten times, they're going to blame Trump. He's going to be a lot of easier person to blame than to blame Reza Palavi. But that's kind of where they're at. If the president really wanted to place Rezaa Pahlavi, he could have done it. Why didn't he do it? You got to answer the question. You, the Iranian people that are pro-Palabia, why didn't he do that? But it might be harder than anybody thought,
Starting point is 00:38:20 look, what have we learned in these new wars? When they start wargaming the new wars, look at Ukraine. I gave them like two months. We're going up on five years. Iran would have been a lot harder to take all the way down because the regime, if they lose, they're taking out into the streets and skinned alive. They're going to fight till the end.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And so I think the lessons from these two wars, Ukraine and Iran is it's not the same wars that we used to think about. And now you've got these drones and you got these, you know, hoodies and Hamas and Hezbollah, all with H's. I don't know why all H's, but it's a whole new game for warfare in the world. And now we're going to add AI onto that, which will be a whole other concert. Does that benefit us or them to be able to, because, you know, Spying is going to go to a whole different level with the next five to 10 years. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Does spying benefit us? Like, will we be able to spy on them better than them on us? I'm talking specifically, Ron. Well, first of all, if I'm going to bet on spying, I'm always betting on Israel. I mean, I mean, I just want to be. Am I? No. They're the ghosts and spy.
Starting point is 00:39:41 They are the ghosts. There's college, there's pro, and there's Super Bowl. There's the gold. And there, there. So as long as we got, as long as we're in on their eaves dropping, we're in pretty good shape. I just got to say, I've agreed with pretty much everything Mr. Morgan has said today. Probably the most important thing he said was, we have no idea how big and hard this deal is to even get done. Those two people who went to the Iran game were both rooting for Iran to win the game.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Do you think there's any compromise with those two people on how they see the different flags of their country? one with the IRGC flag one with the rising lion those people hate each other now multiply that to every other country in the region trying to get a deal done multiply that with Qatar with Israel with Turkey all these different
Starting point is 00:40:29 interests in America Republicans Democrats those two people both Iranian both Persian hate each other calling him a traitor calling him shame and they're rooting for the same team they are but it's a different idea I agree just like Republicans of a different ideology than the far leftists.
Starting point is 00:40:47 This is even bigger than that. I agree with you. This is even bigger than that. I was just saying the real, if you listen to him every time he ends, the real thing that President Trump wanted is the, he calls it the dust, the uranium. The nuclear dust. That's what it's all about. And the question is going to be, the $300 billion question is going to be,
Starting point is 00:41:11 do we get the dust for the dough? And if we don't get the dust for the dough, I think it's a bust. I'll tell you one thing I know about Trump. You know how they say Hollywood? It's not show friends. It's show business. Trump's all about business. He wants to deal with us.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Adam, let's go to the next story. I got you. You're excited today. Let's go to the next story. This is good. John Morgan here. I love it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:33 So meanwhile, Iran's holding the funeral for Ayatollah Ali Chalmane. And guess when they're doing it? Fourth of July. Yeah. That's when they're doing it? You think it's accidental? No, when is fourth of July? What days it on?
Starting point is 00:41:45 When is 4th of July? It's on a Friday. It's a weekend now. Is it? It's a weekend. So maybe it's a coincidence. Maybe it's like an accidental. By the way, he was killed.
Starting point is 00:41:55 90 days ago? How long did he killed ago? Yeah. He's been on ice. I mean, how long did he go to? Yeah, but they needed safety to be able to do the ceremony, the way they're going to do it. They're probably going to do it pretty big. Can you guys do me a favor?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Can you pull up the clip of what Vance said denies that Iran will receive billions of dollars of assets in the deal? because that's the kicker right there, right? Is it going to be just the frozen assets? The $300 billion is the real thing. And even though U.S. is brokering the deal, if I'm not mistaken, it's not $300 billion that taxpayers will be paying.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I think it's an element of multiple different countries that are involved in that. Is this it? Guys about the money? Yeah, and releasing frozen bills. Okay, go for it. Go for it. People say that billions of dollars of assets will be released. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:42:41 What is true is that. Iran will have a much better and much more prosperous future if they meet the obligations they make in this agreement. We'll, of course, see, that's one of the things we're going to work out in the technical talks that will follow the official signing on Friday. Mr. Vice President, it's Ed O'Keefe, and we're so glad you're here in part because as Republican Senator Lindsey Graham said yesterday, you are the architect of this deal, so let's walk through some of this. The Iranians are saying that they're going to have access to a $300 billion reconstruction fund. True or false? Well, Ed, that's the sort of thing they could have access to, funded by the Gulf Coast Coalition, so long as they honor their end of the obligation.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I think that one of the things you're going to see, Ed, and people have to be skeptical of this, is that the hardliners in the Iranian system will over-emphasize the benefits that Iran gets, while under-emphasizing all the things that they have to concede and all the things they have to provide in order to get these benefits. So we absolutely are open to the Gulf Coast countries investing in the reconstruction of Iran, but only if Iran ends their nuclear program, ends their enriched stockpile of material, and it was really open to an inspections and enforcement regime that gives the American people confidence they're never going to have a nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 00:43:57 So I think the dance you're going to see, Ed, which is going to be interesting, is the Iranian media, especially the hardline media, they're going to talk a lot about what they get without talking about. about what they give. It's important for all of us to correct that record. Well, pretty interesting. Well, listen, one thing, one thing he didn't want to hear is you are the architect.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Yeah, exactly. I mean, that is like, you know, this is. Lawyer talk. Lawyer talk. This is presidential election talk, 2008. He's setting J.D. Vance up for somebody is for a big win or a big fall. Yeah. So this $300 billion is not reparations, just so you know.
Starting point is 00:44:37 It's not a guarantee. Everybody wants to know who controls the money. You're right. It's a lot of release of frozen funds. Apparently golf states are going to be involved. Private investors are going to be involved. U.S. is going to be involved. It's not a check wire. We're handing it to you. Go do whatever you want to do. There are certain things that they could do to screw up even getting the money. But, Tom, your thoughts. What else do you know about this $300 billion? I love the line that's in the 14 points. while ensuring a financing of at least $300 billion agreed upon by both parties for the rehabilitation and economic development of the Islamic Republican of Iran together with regional partners to create a comprehensive plan that will be formulated within 60 days.
Starting point is 00:45:21 They're saying financing. They're not saying that this is more pallets like Obama sent over there. They're talking about Gulf states. So let me just make it really simple. Do you remember everybody was upset when Dick Cheney, I mean the United States arranged for Halliburton to go back and rebuild Iraq? Weird. Well, now it's all the little Halliburton's that are in the Gulf states. They're all going to get their piece of the pie.
Starting point is 00:45:45 And guess what? Iran can pay for it with oil. And so they're saying, Pat, it's a $300 million financing. A lot of other countries would be involved. And so it's not pallets of cash the way Obama did. And what you hope, what you hope, since Trump is a construction guy, the way you build buildings is you meet certain thresholds and then you get certain draws. You don't just get the money up front if you want to be bonded. You got to, you meet certain thresholds and then you get a draw
Starting point is 00:46:18 and then a draw and a draw. You know, you know that's how it's going to be. I would think, listen, Trump, Trump is a construction. That's his business. And so what I, and he's, he's used construction throughout his presidency, and I can't imagine him rebuilding anything without certain thresholds and construction like draws. And I think one of those draws is going to be the dust. Yeah, and by the way, the key in there is, you don't get any of the, so one, the Hormuz has to stay open, you cannot do anything, you have to agree to the terms, and if you don't release the enriched uranium that Trump said U.S. needs to see it. I don't want to have another country. see it. I want to see it. If that doesn't happen, you're not getting that set up in place to
Starting point is 00:47:04 be able to help you out. None of that's going to be taking place, Adam. Hopefully. Hopefully. I agree. My opinion, they're never going to see that 300 billion. They could have called it 18 trillion gazillion. They're never going to see that money. Why? Because it's all predicated on how, if they change their behavior or not. Remember in 2016, we all learned the word quit pro quo? It's a pay. It's a quit pro quo. This entire deal is based on the premise that they're going to be rewarded for good behavior. So Iran, the biggest terrorist regime in the world, the smelly kid in the playground is just going to overnight be like, we want to be friends with everybody. There's no chance that's going to happen. So whether this is
Starting point is 00:47:44 $300 billion or $300 gazillion, they're never going to see this money because they're not going to change the behavior. It's great for marketing. Trump did an amazing job on his birthday, cutting this deal. We all know that once midterms is done, I don't think Iran is going anywhere. will probably be re-engaged with Iran after mid-term. Vinnie, I'm coming to you about UFC. What is the whole thing about plotting FBI that were trying to attack the drone? What happened there with that story? So apparently the FBI said, and they caught, I think, a dozen and a couple more that were plotting against it.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I think they were out of California. They stopped the major planned terror attack targeting the UFC freedom event at the White House. According to reports, investigators uncovered a plot involving explosive drones, snipers, and even a planned breach of the White House gates during the chaos, Pat. And I'm going to have them show this clip. They wanted to start the chaos outside, funnel everybody into a designated area, and they were going to have snipers shooting at all the people running out. This is the Fox clip right here.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Officials telling Fox, a network of nearly two dozen potential plotters were identified with at least five people in custody right now. The suspects allegedly traveled to Fredericksburg, Virginia, to make final preparations for the attack. And the alleged plan allegedly included, explosive-packed drones hitting buildings near the event, forcing a mass evacuation, and then steering crowds. Get this, toward a pre-staged sniper team.
Starting point is 00:49:13 A second wave was then planned to storm the White House gate. The FBI first learned of the threat on June 10th and worked with law enforcement across multiple states to stop it. And you can pause. So the FBI has arrested Ohio man Tyson proper for allegedly plotting a terrorist attack, targeting the UFC event. Investigators say he planned to use the explosive laden drones, nearby buildings, and multiple additional suspects have been arrested.
Starting point is 00:49:38 So, I mean, thinking about it, guys, it's an America event, America's back. You've got to have a little bit of terrorism. Isn't that crazy that this is not even a top 10 story? It's not. It's not. Is that not crazy that it's not even, did you even know about this, John? I know about it, but I tell you, when I saw the plotters, it looked like Doug Donis, he was trying to, you know, attack the White House.
Starting point is 00:49:57 You were not impressed. I just wasn't. Show it. Show the duck. I mean, I'm like, can you show their faces? Yeah, I mean, it was like, when I saw the faces, I'm like, these guys can't. Those are two of them and there's another gang who can't shoot straight. These guys. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Respectfully, these guys look like tough guys. They do. Calling a Jimmy Breslin book out of the shelf there. Yeah, but Vinny, you had another picture of a couple. These are two of the guys. Show the main one. Yeah, the other guy's name is T-Y-C-C-A. That's who you got to show because that.
Starting point is 00:50:28 B-Y-C-E-N? When I saw him, that guy's like Barney Fife. He can't, you know, they can give him one bullet. That guy does not look like Ahmed al-Kaboon. No. No, exactly. That's the guy. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I'm not worried about him. Apparently, the story was they wanted to take out Trump, J-D, or B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B- was going to be at the fight. Yeah. There's good intelligence there. Yeah. By the way, watch this. Three-minute story.
Starting point is 00:50:53 We're moving along to the next story. How crazy is it that? This is not a main story. All right, so let me get to the next story. want to get to is, do we want to go to Newsom's wife? Yeah, let's go to Newsom's wife. So Gavin Newsom comes out, post the video, guys, if you want to pull up the video while I'm reading the addendum story, and all of a sudden, you're like, you're almost watching Kim, it's as if he's using the playbook copying every single thing that the president did. They're coming after
Starting point is 00:51:23 me, you know, he is literally copying every single page of the playbook that the Trump used, except they did that to him. Here, he's using a playbook. Let me read it to you. Gavin Newsom says DOJ is investigating him and his wife, and Newsom, a Democrat, did not specify exactly what the Department of Justice was allegedly investigating for. But play the clip. Which clip do you want to play first?
Starting point is 00:51:46 Him or the other one? Guys, this is four minutes and 42 seconds. Just play the first 60 seconds. Go ahead. In recent days, federal agents have not. knocked on the doors of family friends and former employees, not because they found a crime, because they're simply trying to find one.
Starting point is 00:52:01 They're demanding records. They're abusing the grand jury process, digging through years and years of random documents. Donald Trump isn't just coming after me because of my mean tweets. He's coming after me because I'm considering running for president. Considering, yeah. Yeah. Consistently called him out over and over again for his lies
Starting point is 00:52:23 and deceit. Donald Trump is simply the most corrupt president in American history. He's turned the levers of government into his own personal power ministries to reward cronies and to try to jail his opponents. His personal attorney now runs the Department of Justice, which has repeatedly gone after his political enemies. Ask Jerome Powell. Sent them after James Comey. James Adam Schiff. He sent them after Tim Waltz and a woman that a jury found Donald Trump had sexually abused. One by one, anyone who has challenged Donald Trump has ended up on his hit list. And today, I proudly joined that list.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Okay. I can pause that right, DeVinny. What's going on here? So stop complaining about it. It's such, it's so funny to hear the left talking about weaponization of the government, as if they're just coming out of this from nowhere. So one of the biggest questions raised, guys, is Jennifer Neufeld. Newsom's nonprofit, the representation project, reports an IRS filing show that she allegedly
Starting point is 00:53:29 paid herself $1.8 million in salary, while another $2.1 million report went to her production company. It's called Girls Club Entertainment through non-profit funding tied to donors connected to Gavin Newsom's political world. That's almost $4 million flowing back into her own ecosystem while California lectures, taxpayers about equity and compassion. Now, this is days, Pat, literally the day after that this news broke, the federal investigation. Gavin Newsom agreed to pay $31,500 ethics fine for California's
Starting point is 00:53:59 own political watchdog found he failed to properly disclose over $5.5 million in donor payments. He personally solicited tied to corporations, foundations, and wildfire funding, relief funding. And now, by the way, this just comes, remember in May? We talked about that free diaper newborn tax situation that they did, Tom. Remember, Pat, they were cheating the system. And then this is what I think it happened. Five times more expensive than Costco. Yeah, weird.
Starting point is 00:54:23 by that the chickens have come home to roost because let's not forget I think this is my opinion pat Dana Williamson his former gavin newsman's former chief of staff she pled guilty in may to bank and wire fraud false tax returns and line to federal agents and the penalty is over 30 years in prison think think about that that's to me maybe she's talking maybe she's blowing the whistle and just for everybody that's like maybe she wants 30 to go down exactly to maybe go to 10 to 15 but let's just clear the air this investigation began under Joseph Biden, not Donald Trump. So all this, everybody's coming after me is nonsense. And let's let's just be obvious. This is the same guy, Pat, in the same state that spent $24 billion.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I'm going to say that number again, 24B with the billion to get rid of homelessness. Mr. Morgan and what happened? It multiplied. It's as if the money went to make them more drugged out and more strung out to put them on the street. At least he got the speed railroad done. At least he got that done. He didn't. He didn't. He didn't. And at least it wasn't. that big of a budget. It was only a $31 billion budget and they hit it. But it ended up being now $120-something billion to get it done. Okay, so that also didn't get done. That didn't get done. By the way, check this out. When you're saying to $1.8 million, reports indicate that at least one investigation centers on Jennifer's taxes and finances, including her
Starting point is 00:55:39 nonprofit, which you talk about, $1.8 million, and a $1.64 million to her company since 2012. Yes. To 2012, who's president? Obama's president, right? We're going back 2012. for services totaling around 3.7 million over a decade, conservatives have questioned these. Other describe them as standards for such roles, which this is what the argument they're going to need to make. John, you're here as a lawyer. If you were representing Newsom's,
Starting point is 00:56:03 you would represent a different way, if you represent the government trying to investigate them. I'm going to come to you for the question on how would you do it with both. But here's a part. A separate probe relates to Newsom's former chief of staff, Dana Williamson. If you want to bring this up, because we talked about her, about four or five weeks ago, who pleaded guilty in a 2025 corruption case involving a dormant campaign account not directly implicating Newsom.
Starting point is 00:56:30 So she took the blame for it. So, John, you're a lawyer. You're one of the most famous lawyers in America. You run Morgan and Morgan. You spend $350 to a half a billion dollars of advertising per year. Some of the biggest lawyers in America worked for you. Bobby Kennedy before he became who he is today. I don't know if people know this or not.
Starting point is 00:56:46 he was working for John and the numbers are public. He made $9 to $10 million working for you as well as a lot of other big lawyers. Your family guy, you're very successful billionaire. You've done all this other stuff for yourself. John, give me both perspective. The government comes they hire you. What do we do here?
Starting point is 00:57:03 Newsom family hires you. What do you look for? The first thing we've got to say is, look, one of the reasons that Donald Trump won in a landslide was that he was prosecuted multiple times. So Newsom saw that, and it worked for him. The difference is Trump actually sat in a courtroom, freezing his ass off, and he sat there like a bull every day.
Starting point is 00:57:29 That's a whole lot different than people rattling your cage. The other thing that Newsom saw is that he tweets out these mean tweets, and he's trying to emulate that, and it's really not working for him. So he's taking the Trump playbook and going that way. The problem for all of them is, look, Donald Trump, after he went through what he went through, his promise was retribution, and he's coming back through here turning every stone. And you're right, these stones were already turned before here. I've always been amazed at the whole Gavin Newsom, who his wife was,
Starting point is 00:58:08 and then who Donald Jr. was with. I mean, the whole thing. Yeah. You wouldn't believe it if it was a movie that his old wife, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who was Don Jr.'s a party circle. Yeah, and party circle. And then now she's in Greece. And so that's always got me, you know, it's like the Biden's marrying each other's wives.
Starting point is 00:58:32 But the last thing I'll just say about her that's going to be the little secret thing is, you know, when Harvey Weinstein stood trial for sexual. harassment. She was one of the people that said he harassed her. And guess what the jury found? No, he didn't. Consensual. No, I'm not going to say consensual. I'm just going to say they did not find against Harvey Weinstein on her case. But then to me, the average person may say, well, then you, it was a consensual. We don't believe you. Exactly. Yeah, we don't believe. Which could me to speculating that it was consensual that he didn't force himself upon you. You're not saying that. I'm saying that. Right. Okay. I got it. Okay, fair enough. Because, because I'm a lawyer and you're not.
Starting point is 00:59:24 And so allegedly, one, allegedly, always, my lawyer advice to you today, always add the word. Well, let me. I'm so much. Folks, let me do this. Can you guys in the back, go to vtmerch.com. So I'm in the insurance business. I've been in the insurance business my entire life. We wanted to make sure that people were protected. So if you just type in the word allegedly, we actually have a collection called allegedly to protect people. Anywhere they go to work, where I had, everything is allegedly.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Exactly. So can you do me if everyone put this link before? Go wear it. See what reaction you get from people. It is one of the funniest shirts you'll ever wear because on the front, it says allegedly, on the back it says future looks bright. And everybody cracks up when you put it. with us on.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Please, please, please, please, please send me an Excel. And, and also, I'm going to rename the show after the July 14th or the June 14th. June 14th. I'm going to start calling you Patrick Damos. It's not PBD show. Patrick Domas. Allegedly. Allegedly.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Let's get him one of those shirts, ladies and gentlemen. Actually make a note, send it to Mattie. Let's get them in Excel and a half. Let's get the whole thing. We will definitely do that. Can we wrap on Newsom? Yeah, go for it. Some interesting things.
Starting point is 01:00:42 There's a Calci up on this. $128 million has been placed on Calci. Gavin Newsom has not been able to get over 24% on Calci. And there has never been a Democrat candidate at this point, two years in that didn't have 24% in the polls, the speculative polls before the primaries, that was ever nominated. And the big money packs, some of them are kind of backing away. Would you like to know who is tied AOC, John Ossoff, senior senator Democrat from Georgia, seen as being a very neutral and strong candidate.
Starting point is 01:01:21 He has this presidential exploratory committee apparently, allegedly. And you know what he's raised this year? Well, first of all, let's go this. AOC has raised $3.9 million this year. She doesn't need a big war chest to win re-election in her district. Newsom is only disclosed in California filings, 13.4 million. John Ossoff has raised this year already $60.4 million. He is developing a huge war chest.
Starting point is 01:01:48 I happen to believe that the DNC and big money packs, I initially was not Nostra Thomas because I was talking about J.B. Pritzker. I'm not talking about him anymore, but I will say this. I believe the DNC is backing away from Newsom. Newsom, because he's such, right now we say, problematic. The dog has fleas, as they would say. And I think these fleas are going to be hard to exterminate before they get into there. So would they rather take,
Starting point is 01:02:16 are they going to win California with or without Newsom? Yes. Are they going to win New York with or without AOC? Yes. What are those seven states? Ohio, Pennsylvania, Georgia. And Ossoff would bring Georgia. That's a good point. And the other thing is I took Joe Scarborough and Mika to the Derby with me this year. Sorry about that, because we'll get you next year.
Starting point is 01:02:41 We go every year. This is actually the year we didn't go. I know. John, that's a real contract, sir. Come on. Can you imagine him at the Derby how much fun he would be? Oh, my God. But, you know, they were talking, and I think they're right.
Starting point is 01:02:52 One way or the other, if Allsoft wins his reelection, he's on the ticket. He might not be the president, but he's not. 39 years old and this guy is a rock star a debater he's a salons yeah and and so he just needs to go tanning a little bit he's a little too white well i have a i have a saying i have a saying about tanning brown fat looks better than white fat so i'm always for you look great and if you can't tone it tan it but that's kind of important way approach yeah exactly i'm going to disagree with our dear friends here and I don't want to do this. It gives me no pain or pleasure.
Starting point is 01:03:31 But if you tell me that you think John Ossoff, a Jewish guy from Georgia is going to win the Democratic, Democratic nomination, you're smoking something or maybe taking a month. I said vice president. I'm talking to our friend Tom here, and I want to be respectful. Because I think of the guy is a talented guy,
Starting point is 01:03:51 him and Raphael Warnock in Georgia. There ain't no chance that the Democratic Party is nominating a Jewish guy. I'm sorry. There's ain't no party. Nobody's doing that at this point. Gavin Newsom right now is the guy. This guy, John Ossoff, better work his off if he thinks he's going to take out Gavin Newsom. By the way, Gavin Newsom is the most skilled politician in America.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Has someone done more with nothing than Gavin Newsom? Name any accomplishment. Go. What he's done more than anything is this look-maxing thing? Oh, he's looks-maxing. No doubt. Karen Bass in L.A. is woke maxing, San Francisco, which I'm sure we'll get into,
Starting point is 01:04:30 is LGBTQ maxing out there. The bottom line is this, do not California, my America. You know that phrase you heard, don't California, my Texas. There's no chance in America today, unless we've gone completely insane, that we're going to nominate a radical, progressive California Democrat to run America unless America completely wants to be removed. I think Gavin's problem,
Starting point is 01:04:53 I think Gavin Newsom's big, big problem. it was his his tactic for this past four years is Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Hitler Trump Gestapo Trump eyes but me camera camera camera yeah but that's every Democrat no but for him if there's nothing different run if you want to be the frontrunner if you want to be the frontrunner everybody at them at the end of the day there's there's no amount of gel or a smile is going to take away from the fact from your resume because that's going to be that's going to be front and center besides the corruption besides your wife besides everything you can't tom nailed it that dog has
Starting point is 01:05:26 so many fleas at him. Once he's on the limelight, every debater, I don't care. Bro, Tico could come in there and debate him and Tico could go down every problem with California. America's not that done. Because Adam, at the end of the day, he's not going against Trump. We don't even know who's he going to go up. J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, they will all wipe the floor with him. Because at the end of the day, I understand the, if it was somebody going against Trump, Kamala, somebody, it's not Trump. People have to understand. In 2008, it ain't Trump. So for the four years, you've been, Trump Trump Trump the smoke is going to clear Guess what? Trump's bye-bye
Starting point is 01:05:58 He's going to be gone And whoever he's going to put up Is going to be the one that's going on. And one other thing about him Don't forget before he was against transgender swimmers competing He was also for a In California, $350,000 per person
Starting point is 01:06:12 Reparation He was Reparation He'll get up there on the debate stage Well he's now he's now Look everybody learned from Mitt Romney's Etchish sketch Remember that?
Starting point is 01:06:25 He said just you win the primary and then it's an etch of sketch, you shake it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So everybody's got that playbook. But there's that 350 was like, and where are you going to pay for it? So those are those are his things on the record. I'm excited about 2028. I'm excited about 2028. It's like, you know, in baseball, trade deadlines are coming up in baseball, right?
Starting point is 01:06:45 And July. End of July. And Tom gets all excited. Honestly, Tom literally gets excited. Who's a Republican nominee going on? Yeah, I want to hear this. Why does that? I say Rubio.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Me too. Because the architect of Iran is J.D. Vance. J.D. Vance, might be thrown under the bus. Yeah, a good label they put on there. By the way, you have to realize. And I believe Marco will get Cuba before this terms over. I think there's a big difference between Marco and J.D. And here's the difference.
Starting point is 01:07:14 You know what the difference is, Vinny? What do you think between the two? Between J.D. and Marco. Well, Rubio's been in this game for a minute. Yeah. JD came out of... Who do you do, too, do you like? Rubio, absolutely. You know what I think, is the difference?
Starting point is 01:07:28 You know the difference is? I'm going to jump in, Notre Dameus. Rubio believes what he's saying. J.D. Vance called Trump Hitler. Two different people. Two different ways. Now, did you see him on the view? Right after he was done with the view during the break,
Starting point is 01:07:49 he says, Joy said to me, look, we like you for a Republican. They actually like him. You have to realize, I don't know if they're going to like Rubio, but they do like him, okay? Here's the difference in my opinion between J.D. and Marco. Vinnie, how much, I'll ask you guys, Tom, you know, Adam, we're around Vinny all the time.
Starting point is 01:08:09 How much effort does Vinny have to put to be funny? Zero. It's inherent. He's real. You see how that works? Yeah. This is how much effort the guy has to put to be funny. Okay. versus some of us have to make an effort to tell dad jokes. Some of us filled comedians have to say we were comedians and we hire comedians.
Starting point is 01:08:32 And some of us try to be funny, but it's a 50-50 hit and miss, right? But this guy never has to try. To me, Marco's not trying. Marco's being. I think JD is trying. I think that's the difference. I think JD's going to be the one that he, he reminds me of a guy. know. He reminds me of a guy that since he was 18 years old, he wanted to be a president.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I think you're going to have to beg Marco to run for office. I don't think you have to beg J.D. to run for office. I think that's the difference. You know what I'm saying for president? Yeah, but I'll tell you, everybody needs to read a book called the 48 rules of power. 48 laws of power. Robert Green. Yes. And look, they all play a different game. And they're all playing a different game. And Marco, I think, is kind of the Paul Ryan game, reluctant, the reluctant one. I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, but I really care. And so, you know, there's the book. What's it called?
Starting point is 01:09:26 Forty Laws of Power. Forty-eight Laws of Power. Very good book. Listen, that needs to be right behind your Bible right there. But all these guys. Probably he is for a lot of people. Oh, yeah. But Marco is, I think, playing the best game of 48 laws of power. And I think J.D.'s playing the worst game.
Starting point is 01:09:44 And I think throwing him into the architecture. of Iran is like when they threw Kamala into control the border control the border yeah I mean that was like if you want if you want to funny if you want to kill somebody so who are so welcome to the border to drink minimum yeah yeah so who oh yeah so I say rubio you said rubio who's the nominee rubio yeah I don't like to speculate that early but if I had to put all my money on one horse it'd be rubio I had the pleasure of hanging out with rubio and heggseth and a lot of the staff at the UFC. It was great thing everybody at the UFC fun. What a great time talking about everybody. We had a great time. Wonderful. I know you were over on the other side. I was on the side with
Starting point is 01:10:25 Rubio. Yeah. And I said, I did a video. You can see it. I said, I think I'm standing here with the next president. He goes, you're running for president? I go, yeah. So I was thinking Rubio 2028. That's right. He's humble and he's cool. And the most important thing to me, he threw up a 305. By the way, you know, his son plays football for his son's like a total stud. Yeah. Michael Irvin was sitting right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Imagine if we have Mar-a-Lago presidency down to a 305 presidency. Let me get to the next story.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Let me get to the next story. Let me get to the next story. Because, you know, every time we do a podcast, Adam's got to give a shout-outs. I mean, we have to. Yeah, okay, let me get to. Here's the next door I want to get to. Will this be one of the stories that will be up there?
Starting point is 01:11:03 Okay. So Elon Musk, as of right now, is worth around $1.3 to $1.4 trillion as of right now, okay? Numbers came up. It's so funny. I saw a meme that said the richest men in the world ended at Il-A-Mas number one
Starting point is 01:11:19 number two it had Khome and A because of $300 billion. With an asterisk With an asterisk With an asterisk next to it Very bone. It was so hilarious that he was on there But Elon Musk is 1.3
Starting point is 01:11:34 You called it, buddy, can I give you another? Oh, Pastor Damasis, is that what you call it? Patra Damos? You called the billionaire thing for Elon Musk a couple months of year ago? Yeah. But let me say, I also told, I also told, you know, I don't know who, Adam Kins, I don't know who was a guy that responded. I said, there's going to be two to five more trillionaires.
Starting point is 01:11:52 There's going to be five more trillionaires than next two to five years. I think that's going to happen like this in no time. But let's stay on this. He becomes a trillionaire. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, furious, okay? How dare you become a trillionaire? Does a person really need that much well, right, to become a trillionaire? And they commented on this.
Starting point is 01:12:08 And, guys, I think we got the clip on both of them. If we play this clip, I want to go to this. Because on SpaceX, the stock's gone up. It's not slowing down. It's the valuation hasn't slowed down. Where's SpaceX stock right now, Tom? 1, 195,000. $195,000.
Starting point is 01:12:23 $195. So, you know, the people that made all the money, the 4,300, 4,400 people that became millionaires, the 33 non-executives that made $2 to $400 million. Now that's $3 to $600 million. Here's Elizabeth Warren reacting to it. And then as well as Bernie Sanders, and I want to kind of open it up because there's a couchy that came up,
Starting point is 01:12:41 which I'll go after this, guys, if you want to find that as well, the calcium of whether the wealth tax will be on the ballot in California, it's dropped like from 86% to 34%. Here's Elizabeth Warren. Go for it. Hey, y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder, what if?
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Starting point is 01:13:12 think about that. We're living at a time when more and more people are just hanging on by their fingernails to survive in this economy. And Elon Musk has more money and more wealth than anyone in human history. I want to be clear. This is not just some fluke. It is a feature of a rigged economy. Elon Musk is official. It's a rigged economy. So that that's her saying a rigged economy. Bernie Sanders comes out and says, He'll almost rise to trillionaire status is not a time to celebrate. It's a call to action to take on the unprecedented income and wealth and equality that now exists and the greed and power of a ruling class that is destroying the social fabric of America. Our democracy cannot survive when one man who has contributed
Starting point is 01:13:56 $290 million to get Trump elected become $700 billion richer since he got elected. Our economy cannot sustain itself when one man owns more wealth than the bottom half of our society when 60% of our people have paycheck to paycheck when we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major nation, and when our kids have a lower standard of living than their parents,
Starting point is 01:14:18 this is not about wealth, that's about power, Musk, and his fellow oligarchs, one at all. Together, we must fight back. We can and must create an economy and government that works for all of us, not just Elon Musk and his fellow billionaire. So as a billionaire, John, how do you react to this? In my soon-to-be best-selling book, Life is Luck, I write.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Oh, it's here. Surprise. Hey, we have one. Oh, I'm so surprised. I write about Elon Musk. Does everybody at this table know about a concept called first principle thinking? No. Yes, first principles, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:57 First principle thinking. It was originated by Aristotle. And basically what Elon Musk is is a first principle thinker. Here's how first principle thinking works. there are assumptions that we've all made for a long, long time. And those assumptions stop us from doing a lot of things because we believe those assumptions to be true. What first principle thinking does and what Aristotle taught Elon Musk is you take those assumptions and you deconstruct them. And then you say, let's see how we can do it another way.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Most of Elon Musk businesses are based on first principle thinking. Here's how. SpaceX. They said the rockets were too expensive. The rockets cost X. Guess what? Elon Muskid. He deconstructed that, and he said,
Starting point is 01:15:55 what about this? What about if I build my own rockets? And instead of being 10x, it's X. That's why it works. That's first principle thing. With the Tesla cars, It was impossible for a lot of reasons, but mainly batteries. And I think that's why we want Greenland to get minerals to run these batteries.
Starting point is 01:16:20 And he said, you know what? And charging stations. So all the big guys said it won't work. Elon Musk, with his first principle thinking, deconstructed all those assumptions and said, you know what? I'm going to do it this way. What are his other first principle thinking? these tubes between cities, Las Vegas and Los Angeles.
Starting point is 01:16:43 And then his ultimate first principal thought is life on Mars. The reason Elon Musk deserves it is because with first principle thinking, he took the impossible that the smartest people in the world agreed was impossible and then made it possible. And when you start trying to take away incentives to do big things, you are taking away the concept of the American dream. So what do you say to Warren and to Bernie and them saying, you know, I cannot believe how much wealthy has, this is not good,
Starting point is 01:17:19 we shouldn't see something like this. I'd say to them, what do you want him to do? Do you want him to stop? Do you want autonomous vehicles or not? Do you want us to be first in space? Do you want us to have colonies to go to? Do you want driverless car? Look, autonomous vehicles put me out of business in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 01:17:38 but guess what? 43,000 people aren't killed a year if he gets his way. So look, here's the thing that I think is driving most of it. It's a phrase you all have heard many times. Comparison is the thief of joy. And I believe what drives a lot of this is just pure, unadulterated envy. For a guy who, look, the guy's off. He's somewhere on a spectrum.
Starting point is 01:18:06 We don't know. he stays high half of the day, but he's a genius and he's a first principal thinker. So I think they're off base. Great teaching. By the way, very, very good teaching. And folks, if you're watching this, this is why I love talking to John, if you truly want to experience what it is to go become wealthy, have a good family, enjoy yourself. This guy has a lot of fun as well.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Go support his book. Life is luck. Tom, your thoughts on the story with, and by the way, let's put the link below guys in the description, in the comment, please, to make sure people can go support it. Tom, your thoughts on the story would must be coming a trillion in, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren going after him. I don't understand it because I look at the, and I'll tell you why I don't understand. I think it is, I think John's correct about the jealousy and about the envy.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Because think of the things he's accomplished. Are the Dems not in favor of green energy and solar? And so the guy that has invented these battery packs that go in your house to store energy made at a lower cost and then Tesla's, which, do not use internal combustion. Starlink, Starlink. And by the way, he's running a space program based on not by dropping crap into the ocean after you launch a rocket, which is the only way NASA and the Soviets and the French have done it for,
Starting point is 01:19:24 and the Chinese have done it for decades. He's like, no, maybe, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What if we just reuse the rocket and I catch it with this large stand with these big metal chopsticks? and I'll keep reusing it rather than dump it in the ocean. So why aren't the Democrats praising all of this list of things, which brings a green angle and not more, and by the way, let's not talk about the chemicals that are inside those rockets when he get dropped in the engine,
Starting point is 01:19:50 dropped in the ocean by NASA, Russia, China, everybody else. There's a lot of stuff in there at the bottom of the ocean. And so here he is in many ways green, and wouldn't that play to them? Wouldn't they be praising this? because this is the kind of things they want? No. Instead, it goes the other way. And the other part is they don't have anything else to talk about.
Starting point is 01:20:14 I once had a college professor that said, hey, on the essays, write me a one-sentence note if you really don't understand it. Because if you have nothing to say, be brief, and I will credit the fact that you didn't waste my time having to read BS. And so I think they don't have anything to say. what do they have to sell the American people on vision and future on product? No, they have to sell fear. They have to sell you got left out.
Starting point is 01:20:44 They have to sell. The system is rigged. That's what they have to sell. They can't go off message. And so they have to use this on message. And it's old, it's stale. And to people who are seeing a little bit of light, a little bit of opportunity, you know, I don't think this message is going to play well in the middle.
Starting point is 01:21:06 I think it will at the bottom. Okay, Adam. I agree with my rich, smart friends to my right of me. Listen, Elon Musk, I think he famously quoted. He said you get paid in direct proportion to the difficulty of the size of the problems you solve. Has anybody solved bigger problems than Elon Musk? This guy's making autonomous vehicles. Chips in your brain that you can think about what you,
Starting point is 01:21:30 want to do rockets to space and what do the Bernie Sanders of the world, the Elizabeth Warrens of the world, they want to hate on this. They don't want innovation. All they want to do, and it's such an attractive message. If you're just talking about first principles, if you just don't know anything and you're like, he's a trillioner, we should take his money. All they want to do is seize, tax, blame, shift blame. Don't look at all the corruption we're doing. He's a trillionaire. and the average person goes, trillionaire, I'm barely a thousandaire, barely a millionaire, a billionaire, trillionaire, take his money.
Starting point is 01:22:09 What they don't want to focus on is all the benefits that the billionaires have done for society. The funniest things to me is sometimes you'll see, like, somebody working on their computer with their cell phone, with the Starbucks saying like socialism rocks. It's like all the products you're using were built by capitalists. But it's cognitive dissonance and they just want to... And one of the reasons I was going to tell you that I write in there is this,
Starting point is 01:22:33 I spent some time studying lotteries. And you cannot believe the amount of money spent on lotteries in America. It's like an average person spends like $440 a year. Stop it. A year. Why? They want to be rich. They're trying to hit the powerball.
Starting point is 01:22:56 There's a, you know, gambler's a number. anonymous because people, everybody wants out. And when they don't get out, they get mad. And when they get mad, they get jealous. And then they say, if not them, you know, give me a lottery. Somebody else's fault. And then the interesting part that I write about about lotteries in that book is once they get the money, you ought to follow the lives of lottery winners after.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Horrible. I mean, they all fuck it up. It's all gone in five years. They all fuck it up. By the way, the best part about this book, the picture is the one on the back. Can you zoom in? This is the best part about the picture. Okay?
Starting point is 01:23:37 It's my crowd. Look how awesome this is. The whole family on the back. Nothing matters more than this. I wish this wasn't a front, but life is. So let me tell you what direction I go with this. So for me, do you know what percentage of R&D? Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Does the private sector spend every year now private, to the government. What percentage R&D of the total money spent is private versus the federal government? I'd say 90% is private. 8020 is private. Here's a tricky part. Do you know when it was equal? 1980. In 1980, it was the same. So whatever private sector spent on R&D, R&D, research and development was the same as the federal government was. By 2020, the private sector was beating them 3.6 times the amount. Okay. Laptum. So then you go and see the patents, the number of inventions that come out, okay? Patent ownership, U.S. businesses receive 85 to 86% of USPTO utility patents assigned to domestic owners. The government sector, less than 1%.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Government funded patents, which is what a lot of people will say, well, you know what, SpaceX, the government kind of supported it, and they were involved, et cetera, et cetera. Only 2% of U.S. patents are publicly funded by privately owned, yet they account for 20% of medium-term fluctuations in productivity and GDP growth. When you continue with the patents, patent volume by sector. Businesses, 85% of patents. Individuals, 9%. Vinny, watch this. Out of all the patents they submit, 85% businesses, 9% individuals, 4% academia, which is what? Universities, I'm working for Yale. One percent is the U.S. government. So guess who is creating? So what do you want to do, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders? You guys going to invent the next big
Starting point is 01:25:23 thing? Seriously? And you know where some of our greatest inventions came from? Where is that? NASA. some of the greatest inventions. And you know who stopped funding for NASA? Yeah, and guess who the new NASA is? Elon Musk. Right. But by the way, do you know who stopped funding for NASA? Can you pull up on Chad, GBT?
Starting point is 01:25:43 Who was the main guy that stopped funding money for NASA? If I'm not mistaken, this was around the Obama era where Obama said there's not a lot of benefit for us investing money into NASA. Fact check me on this, on the story. If I'm not mistaken, it was about 15 years ago. 2012, 2013, 2014, when they were kind of getting away from it, well, am I correct, I could be wrong. You are right. In 2011, the Obama administration requested to completely cancel
Starting point is 01:26:11 the NASA Constellation Program was a $9 billion effort to return astronauts to the moon to look for minerals. It's not worth us doing it. You're encyclopedic. Yeah, it's not where, well, we just... Nostradamus. We talk to each other so much. We make ourselves smarter.
Starting point is 01:26:27 But when you think about that, so one of the... So one guy's like, forget about seeing what's out there. The other guy's like, look, if you're not going to do it, I'm going to do it. That's Blue Ocean Strategy. I see an opportunity that I go with it. So I hope kids see this. The world's a better place if a million kids watch and saying, I want to be the next Elon Musk, and you fail miserably and you just become a billionaire, okay, and you don't become a trillioner.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Because somebody is sitting out there. I'm having this conversation. Who am I talking to this weekend that's also, okay, yeah, we're on a flight with a very well-known lawyer, and we're going out there and the conversation came about a few different. This guy represents everybody. I don't want to say anything. I don't want anything to come out on what this conversation was about.
Starting point is 01:27:06 And he says, Elon Musk issues with father. Jeff Bezos adopted. Steve Jobs, adopted by an Armenian lady that adopted Steve Jobs, by the way, I don't know if you know this or not. I remember. All of these pains that they went through and then they eventually become what?
Starting point is 01:27:22 Imagine all that pain you must go through as a kid to be able to handle building such big things. And behind closed doors, Vinnie, like, you know what's the hardest part about doing something big that some of these guys are doing? Being able to handle the constant scrutiny. So imagine how many people could on Elon Musk that they were working hard for him. Imagine he's like, no, guys, we got to work hard.
Starting point is 01:27:44 We're going to go out of his freaking mind. So imagine the first Falcon fails. The second one fails. The third one fails. The fourth one fails. Imagine you're in front of your staff. and you just lost 200 of your employees. And they're all talking shit to convince the other 400 to quit.
Starting point is 01:28:01 The other 800 to quit. And they're saying, dude, this guy's not going to be able to pull this off. If the U.S. government stopped funding NASA, why do you think that is? They know something he doesn't know. You're banking on a guy more than you're banking on NASA, and the guys are stuck around, guess what they said? Yes, we are. We're doing that. That's exactly what we're doing.
Starting point is 01:28:18 And then their lives change. By the way, there's an old TED Talks video where the guy gets up. Have you guys ever seen this guy when the first guy starts dancing? Humberto, I know for a fact, as a guy that knows all the videos on YouTube, I know for a fact, you know that video. It's a video of a guy that's at a park and he starts dancing in the field, and he's dancing by himself and you know the types of people that don't know how to dance and they're just kind of dancing like this, and he's doing one of these things.
Starting point is 01:28:44 And then all of a sudden, yeah, everybody started. And then all of a sudden, one guy joins him, joins him. And the one guy that joins him, and he's like, who the hell is going to dance with that guy? And one guy just starts going out and starts doing it. We're all going to dance with you, Tom. And then within two minutes, there's a hundred people that are, this is it. This is like the famous clip that went viral 20 years ago. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:29:05 Watch this. Sometimes this is you, entrepreneurs. Look at that guy. I don't know if we would qualify that guy as a professional dancer. Can you lower the audio a little bit so we don't get flag for the music? He's just doing his thing. 99% of people watching this guy are saying this guy is high, drunk or crazy, or going to a mental hospital. But the first guy joins him.
Starting point is 01:29:24 There we go. And this guy also doesn't have a clue what he's doing. Maybe he's got a little bit better. He's like, let's go, brother. Let's do this thing. He's the first believer. I believe in this crazy guy. I believe in him.
Starting point is 01:29:33 Do your hands like this. If you can fast forward 30 seconds. Bring in the home team. Fast forward 30 seconds. Watch what happened. Keep going. Keep going. Still nobody.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Look at this. Now we got a third person. Look at that. He's rolling. Now you got a crowd. 10. But you know what's, warning.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Here she comes. You know what the biggest part about this is John. I'm going to come to. know what's the biggest part about this? How long can you go by yourself before that first true believer shows up? Man, it is the hardest thing to do in life. John, final thoughts? Final thoughts? Number one, that clip reminded me when I was a little boy, I'd go to my uncle's farm and we were picking tobacco and I'd see these cows in a field and I'd see one one cow start to trot up the top of the hill, the bull. And then another cow would barely trot up to the hill.
Starting point is 01:30:20 and then all of a sudden they kind of started picking up speed and before it they would all run to the top of the field and then to get the top of the field and they look around they go what the fuck are we running for? What are we doing up here? We have no fucking idea. We just, he started running. I don't know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 01:30:42 And so at the end of the day, at the end of the day, a lot of us are cows. Last thing about the book, I write a chapter about this is Elon Mux. to find luck, the best luck, if you have the balls to make failure your friend, those lessons in failure is what separates Elon Musk from the rest of us. Fail, learn, fail, learn, fail, trillionaire. That's right. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Yeah. I mean, so, I mean, think about the failures that he's had and the people who walked away from him not believe in. And so that's what I would tell Elizabeth Warren. And mind you, Elizabeth Warren and the Bernie Sanders, it's always, by the way, and I think it's all political, obviously. These are the same people that are probably making that tweet from a private jet and going to one of his three million million dollar homes where he's like, no, he's trying to BS. And it's all, and Adam said this a while ago, and he said it multiple times, this is the future, John, of the Democratic Party. It's, hey, the rich, it's the
Starting point is 01:31:50 socialism, it's the communism, it's the rich or too rich, let's take it all and just give it to us. Meanwhile, they're the rich ones. Vinnie, you know how important it is that the guy got this deal done? Let me tell you why. Because oil is what? $76. If we can pull up to see what oil is right now, I don't know, whatever the numbers, guys in the back, if you guys can pull that up to see where it's at. So oil drops of 76. How long will it take for us to see the reflection at the gas station? I don't know, one week, two week, four weeks, six weeks. You're going to see it, right? It's going to take a minute to get it. Well, the dealers will gas. for a while. The dealers will gouge for a while, but just like a hurricane. But just like capitalism,
Starting point is 01:32:25 typically if you ever see a gas station, there's another gas station across the street. All I have to do is 10 cents lower. I'm going to like, hey, I'm making money. Prices are coming down. I used to own shell gas stations. And, you know, when there's a hurricane, you see these people out by the airport, they didn't, they did not lower there. So the people need to watch for the gougers. They're going to be saying, oh, this is still a problem. But I think the gougers are going to lose customers. The gougers, what the, what the customers need to do is look at those numbers That's right. Because you, by law, you've got to post.
Starting point is 01:32:52 John, I'm convinced you're Armenian. I think there's an Armenian. I'm Morganian. I think Jewish because I've always thought I was somehow Jewish. And one day, years ago, I'm asleep, taking a nap, and my daughter shakes me and says, Daddy, wake up. I said, why? She says, you're Jewish.
Starting point is 01:33:13 I said, what do you mean? She's, I'm on Ancestry.com. You're great, great, great, great grandfather. father, his name was Saul Morgan. I go, I'm a Jew. Welcome to the tribe, my friend. Welcome to the tribe. We love having you. I thought you were going to say Saul Rosenberg. Well, I think it was Saul Morgan. I think it was Saul Morganstein when they first came over. That's all you're such a good storyteller. Yes. Storyteller. But you know what is crazy.
Starting point is 01:33:42 As we're talking about all this stuff, to Cal Shee, whether the billionaire wall tax will be on or not, look what happened to it all of a sudden within two days. Did you guys see this? Can you zoom in a little bit? It just dropped from... 40 to 6. There's another one. There's another one that's out there. I think you have another one.
Starting point is 01:33:56 There's another one that's a bigger number than 458. But you can see this one. It dropped dramatically in a big way. So we'll see what I happen there. Let me get to next story. Next story I want to get to is New York Times has a story last week because of a book that's coming out called Regime Change or something like that by these two New York Times writers,
Starting point is 01:34:16 which, by the way, again, a lot of people who put a lot of credibility behind these writers. You have to also know that some of the work they did back in the days, people were giving them criticism, saying that these guys were also behind the Russia collusion. So having said that, last week's story went viral, this is part two of the story of New York Times, which, by the way, if there is a publication that you would never guess, would write an article that would automatically show that the president had nothing to do with Epstein, you tell me what newspaper you think would be number one on that list, Vinny, New York Times. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Do you have a thing? Would it be New York Post? No. Would it be any? The most liberal paper out there in New York Times would be number one. So then this article comes out, the untold story of Jeffrey Epstein's death. So now you go through it. This is part two.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Part one was J.D. Vans, Tucker Carlson, the conversation, Dan Bongino, they told him out Susie Wows. That's what it was. Part two is more about what happened to Epstein. So in this Epstein story that they're going through, they talk about how Bannon and him are communicating. Epstein appeared shocked. He managed to send one last message to Bannon saying, all canceled.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Bannon wrote back immediately, you are not coming in, question mark. There was no reply. The FBI agent drove Epsom to Manhattan. He asked two questions. Is this sex trafficking? Is this about underage? It was. Oh, this is bad.
Starting point is 01:35:34 He said aloud when he was getting booked for federal custody, this is really bad. He's whispering to himself and other FBI agents can hear him while he's talking to himself. And the story continues. On one part here, on page 8, it says, we went to court to win access to document that had been described to as a suicide note written by Epstein in jail before an earlier apparent attempt to take his own life, which was hidden from public and investigators for your... So apparently this guy tried to kill himself multiple times. We obtained about a dozen pages of other notes, handwritten notes by Epstein in jail that were also previously unseen, including some in which he tried and failed to come up with significant information. he might have on Donald Trump to offer to prosecutors, and he couldn't find anything when he continues.
Starting point is 01:36:20 In addition to this, we were told by former cellmate, Epstein had more than once previously unreported attempt to craft the news. Epstein's death and whose account circumstantially supported the conclusion that Epstein died by hanging himself. Even his friends knew that were in prison with him. And then they talk about what happened with the surveillance camera being down, the 24-hour surveillance camera, the unit known as 10 South, had held some of the most violent people ever. We're talking El Chapo.
Starting point is 01:36:49 We're talking mafia hitmen. We're talking terrorists tied to al-Qaeda, Bernie Madoff, during his own pre-trial detention a decade earlier. So this is not like a place that we knew about this already. But there was multiple news. His roommate Tartaglione, a 51-year police officer, was waiting trial on federal charges of killing four men, and one of which he killed by six.
Starting point is 01:37:10 strangling with a zip tie. So he knew how to create a news. So he had the right roommate that wanted to teach him how to do that. He told us that Epstein returned to their cell from the court that day. He asked abruptly, how do you make a news? He asks his roommate. In the days that followed, Tertiglione said he caught Epstein preparing for suicide twice. Once Tartaglione said, he noticed Epstein tried to tie a sheet to the gate over the cell window. Another time he woke to Epstein standing in the dark looking a little suspicious. and discovered a noose hidden under his mattress. That's what his roommate found.
Starting point is 01:37:45 And it continues. This is big. They listed as he seeded about the former friends who were now publicly distancing themselves from him, like Leslie Wexner, who gave him that $77 million property, biggest private residence in Manhattan for gift, zero, and try to figure out whether he had any leverage to use against former associates like Bill Gates. Once they heard a mutter, I can't do this. Epstein was particularly preoccupied with that he might have on Donald Trump,
Starting point is 01:38:14 who was then serving his first term in office, jotting on a legal pat. He returned to the president again and again trying to dodge, dredge up anything to offer prosecutors. But his scribble said, Trump is a total count artist, smoke and mirror, and never had money. That's all he could find. Nothing to do with him. Nothing to do with him. Let me see what page this is. with girls. So then this continues. These stories keep going and going and going. I can't take
Starting point is 01:38:43 jail. Put me on house arrest. I'm either going to hurt myself or someone else is going to hurt me. Get me out of here. Epstein told one of his lawyers and Tartiglione heard that. Then there's a couple other guys named Reyes in prison with him, Ephraim Reyes. The guard were on eggshells around Epstein. Reyes noticed he was always making demands. Can you imagine Epstein was telling the guards what to get him? And then he would say, if they did not comply, he would make a show up writing their names down, telling them that he would talk to his lawyers. The people were afraid of him because the lawyers were. You don't want to get me some catch up?
Starting point is 01:39:13 Gotcha. Epstein said to him to this one guy named Robert Adams that was decent to him. He says, thank you for treating me with dignity and humanity. This is Robert Adams, who was treating him respectfully. And then once they saw him examining a computer cable, Epstein noticing their attention reassured them that he was too much of a coward to kill himself. Mostly, faithfully, he made an unusual request. He told them he wanted to update his will.
Starting point is 01:39:37 And then Ray has told them, don't try to kill yourself in this cell. I don't want to wake up and find you dead. Anyways, you go through these stories that is out there. One of them was nearly half of the system cameras that were there while working in real-time. We're not recording. So no funding, no staff. The cameras are not recording. As a result, two-the-cumers in the S-HU were recording in the hours before Epstein's body was discovered.
Starting point is 01:39:59 And if you remember that one of the workers there got $5,000 deposit in his bank account, a couple weeks prior to that. Just so you know there's no connections to it, they found that there was zero connections between the two. Noel activated an alarm. Thomas heaved Epstein to the floor, administrate chest compressions, breathe Epstein, breed. Noel recalled him shouting, and then we're going to be in so much trouble, one of the guards said, that we're going to be in trouble. So they knew something was going to happen here.
Starting point is 01:40:27 The FN MCC has one FN job to keep our defendants safe, and they can't even get that right with their famous inmates. So anyways, that goes on. Y'all murdered him. Y'all murdered him while these guys are walking by, the guards, all the inmates and saying, y'all murdered Epstein. So this got nastier and nastier. And obviously, the roommate Reyes didn't make it. He died of COVID in 2020.
Starting point is 01:40:51 This was so New York Times couldn't get to him. But the main premise of this story, and respect to New York Times, they went right to it. You know what it was? The entire time, the guy, Epstein, who knows everything of who was involved. and who wasn't involved. Try to do everything in his power to destroy Trump, found nothing.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Which you know what this New York Times article shows? That Trump had nothing to do with Epstein. Yep. There is not a better article for the president than this year. So June 14th is birthday. So in other words, New York Times birthday president to Donald Trump
Starting point is 01:41:26 is this article here. Yeah. It's a love letter to Trump. That's the gift to the president to say, hey, as much as we hate writing this, He had nothing to do with it. All the other stories, it is what it is. But I'll come to you, John, because you're from President Clinton,
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Starting point is 01:43:01 You're right. It was. She has been his, you know, nemesis for a long time. So that's him with Russia collusion. Starting with Russia. But, and she's smart. She's very smart. But here's what I'd take from it all.
Starting point is 01:43:17 Howard Lutnik said Epstein was a blackmailer. That's what Epstein did. He blackmailed. You know, why was Leslie Wexner paying him 77? million dollars what did leslie wexler do allegedly to pay this guy who has no expertise at all he was trying to shake down bill gates i mean this guy was a blackmailer that's how he got rich he got shit on people got the film if you're facing what he's facing and you're a blackmailer and you're one get out of jail card is donald trump
Starting point is 01:44:02 you're getting out of jail. You're going to go ahead and say it if you have it. I mean, the people in the mafia flip, and they're like, you know, that's a rare thing. But he didn't flip. And I think he didn't flip because he didn't have the goods. Now, what do I believe? I believe that Trump's got friends that are tied into all of this. I mean, if Bill Gates is being, you know, shook down.
Starting point is 01:44:32 who else can be shook down. And the thing about Trump is this. Trump demands loyalty. I mean, if you're not 100%, you're 0%, but he also returns that loyalty. And so I think that there are people that he knows that are in those files, and he don't want to hurt them. But he got away from them.
Starting point is 01:44:55 The whole narrative just got away from them. Vin, for us, we cover this a lot, right? There was a little bit of skepticism with everybody at this table with Epstein when the story was coming out. How do you, as somebody that followed this very clear, you watch all the documentaries, you watch everything, how are you processing this story here? I think it's, which we've known,
Starting point is 01:45:16 it's vindication that as much as everybody on the left and even some people on the right, and we know who they are, they were like, no, he was with underage girls, like, and it's all been nonsense. And I saw them on the view pad with J.D. Vance, and they're like, No, what's her name? Mavarro was like, no, he was best friends with that scene.
Starting point is 01:45:34 No, no. Donald Trump is a billionaire in New York, hanging out with everybody, knew everybody, literally everybody hung out. The moment he found out that this guy was a creep, what did he do? He excommunicated him and he got him out of his, was it Mar-a-Lago? Was he out? Yes, he kicked him out, okay? My problem is- I'm not mistaken, 0-8-ish.
Starting point is 01:45:55 I don't know the exact time. Can you pull up when? When they were finally they were trying to recruit girls. Boy, oh, he went to jail in 2009. So, 08 is what it was. So, oh, wait, the one thing that bothers me, and John, that's one big thing that I have a problem with. I don't think the president was doing anything with underage girls or any of that nonsense. What bothers me is, is the friendship part because I have a, my biggest problem is as a Christian.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Anything that has to do with children, to me, is off limits. I don't care who you're trying to protect. I don't care what the hell. And Adam, we've had this talk before about, you want the whole. system to fall down if there's children? Yes, because I don't think God is sitting there going, yeah, they need to negotiate. Yeah, that girl was raped. Yeah, that little kid was probably raped and then murdered because they don't want any witnesses. I have a big problem with that part of it. And to add to it, when you have a Pam Bondi who came in after Alex Acosta as Attorney General in Florida,
Starting point is 01:46:49 she becomes the main person, the number one law enforcement officer in the country, that's not by accident. And she ruined the whole thing. She bungled this whole Epstein thing. on purpose when you had those freaking influences coming out like yeah we did it as if we want i don't think on purpose no no i don't think so either uh john she didn't do it on purpose she didn't do it on purpose i don't know john has a relationship with bondie one of john's lawyers was a lawyer that he she was in love with back in the days i think you kind of talked about that last time and he he named her the paminator when we do we would always go out drinking with the paminator so here's my question though and then she's caught on the camera in a restaurant saying we have tens of thousands of
Starting point is 01:47:29 of videos of these underage kids, Epstein and the whole crew, and my thing is, why would the government, and I don't put this on Trump, I put this on all these people that work in the government, why are you covering up, why are you editing 30-second videos, why are you doing it?
Starting point is 01:47:43 I know Trump didn't run on the Epstein files, but now that we're here, the lie to us is, hey, we can't release this because of the victims. No, no, no. You can redact, because they love redacting. Take the names of these girls or these young boys, whoever they were doing.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Oh, and I want to know, the Wesley, the Wexner, all the Bill Gates, give us the names of these people so justice can be done. Okay, period. That's it. I want justice to be done because these kids. But you like how Blanche is handling things versus how Bondi was doing. Oh, yeah. But Bondi is saying now that Blanche was handling it all along. If you read her testimony, when she was brought in to testify a few weeks ago, she said, look, Blanche was handling Epstein, not me. John, it sounds like you're defending her a little bit. I'm not defending her. I'm stating the facts. She is saying that she did not handle the Epstein matter. True.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Did you read the first New York Times story that's about Bondi or no? Yes, okay. So the first one puts a lot of the onus on Bondi. And a lot of the friction where Bongino said, if you don't fire her, I'm out of here. And he left and they had to kind of $100,000. They were screaming at each other. Right.
Starting point is 01:48:56 They were screaming at each other. So a part of it is Bondi's the one that came out and said, there's a lot of bad things on those tapes. There's a lot of bad things on this. She kind of said a little bit too much. And then Susie Wiles got pissed off about that. Right. I mean, you remember that?
Starting point is 01:49:09 Right. I do. I do. So, you know, who knows what happened here? Of course, Pam. Pam was not ready for prime time on this issue. I mean, just was not ready. I don't think there's anything malicious.
Starting point is 01:49:23 I'll say that in defense of her. but in I don't think she was ready for this moment. But it almost feels, though, does it almost feel like, out of all people, nobody here, did anybody ever hear of Pambandi before she became? Yeah, of course. Pam Bondi is very powerful in Florida. Pam Bondi.
Starting point is 01:49:41 And Pam Bondi, very well known. And the first, and respected. And by the way, and how did they, and she also had the Trump stakes or the Trump College case, and she dismissed that and took, and he paid a very small fine. So they made friends early on, and she was very loyal to him. But loyal, but to become the number one law enforcement officer in the United States,
Starting point is 01:50:05 and it was very clear. Only after Matt Gates. Yeah. Don't forget him. He thought he was going to be the Attorney General. I have a different opinion as most people. I'll sum up my viewpoint as quick as possible. You know the story regarding Epstein?
Starting point is 01:50:21 You know when someone catches a fish, and the fish was this pig? And then every time you tell the story, no, the fish was this big. No, the fish was this big. It was the biggest fish ever seen. That's what I think happened on the Epstein story. And the fish got bigger and bigger and bigger. And then he died. And then the fish became the biggest fish we've ever seen in the history of the world.
Starting point is 01:50:42 And Jeffrey Epstein was the devil. Here's what I think. Jeffrey Epstein was a world-class creep and blackmailer. I don't know what he was doing. I don't know who he was working for. neither do you. But the story got bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. And then a movie came out and then a docu-series came out
Starting point is 01:51:01 and everyone had their opinion on this and entitled to do so because the weird sex, underage thing on the island, total creep. Here's the part that people don't really want to talk about, though, if you really want to be honest. In any high level of society,
Starting point is 01:51:21 I'm talking the who's who, what's, what's. Who are the people that make that society? It's men. And no matter who you are in life, the richest, most powerful elite men, do you know what they actually like at the end of the day? Hanging out, have a good time with their buddies, and having beautiful women around.
Starting point is 01:51:38 And Jeffrey Epstein knew this. And he knew if I can bring a lot of women around to all these rich elite men who, let's face it, Bill Gates, a lot of weird creeps that are not good around women, presidents, countries, prime ministers that can't be seen in public, they go to this island. It's a safe space. I think most of these people just like that, well having a good time and pretty
Starting point is 01:52:03 women. What Epstein liked was underage girls. And I know there's a lot of weird stories, but for the most part, there were 16-year-old girls and $200 massages, and it's weird and it's creepy, and whatever he gets, he deserved. Allegedly, he was studying how to commit suicide because he knew he was a creep. Bottom line is this. I live in Miami. I've been in the hospitality in the nightlife world my whole life. Do you know how many 19-year-old girls
Starting point is 01:52:29 apply for jobs at clubs? And the club owner has to go, yeah, I mean, I can't have you serving alcohol. You're not 21. Oh, no, I'll be 21 soon. How many women who are 18, 19, 20 that try to get into 21-plus clubs? The reality is we don't want to address the fact
Starting point is 01:52:47 that women in many capacities are a currency. And I don't believe in treating women that way. Hear me out. Epstein did that to women, and some women volunteered to be, you know, part of the show. So it's a double-edged sword. He was a total creep, but he wasn't the devil. And men like women, that's it. But who was not the devil?
Starting point is 01:53:09 Jeffrey Epstein. He was the devil. But like the literal devil? Well, he was a devil. He was a demon. Well, you've never seen the interview? You ever seen the interview? And by the way, you ever seen an interview?
Starting point is 01:53:21 When they asked him, are you the devil? Have you seen the reaction? Yeah, of course. Ban and asked him the question. Yes. Have you ever seen anybody react that way through a question that's simple? You know what it reminded me of?
Starting point is 01:53:32 You ever seen a movie Fallin? Yes. Falling with Denzel Washington. Time is on my side. And he goes like this and he's just moving and he's talking to him, the spirit. This is it.
Starting point is 01:53:45 I just want you to see the body language when he's asked, are you the devil? Watch this. Go ahead. My case. Is your money dirty money? If you live it. I just ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Your money dirty money. No, it's not. So in fact, why is it not dirty money? Because I earned it. How? But you earned it. We went back to this before. You earned it.
Starting point is 01:54:10 You earned it advising the worst people in the world, right, that do enormous bad things. Is that Steve Bannon? Just to make more money. So instead of it, instead of it. asking me the question, should you take the money? Because I think it's a legitimate question. You think it's a legitimate question? Yes, no question.
Starting point is 01:54:29 Because what I, because I think about, I think you have, ethics is always a complicated subject. But I can tell you that with the money I gave to help try to eradicate polio in Pakistan and India. Oh, yeah. Instead of asking me that money was polio, I think it's good, if we told them that the worst, he gets up.
Starting point is 01:54:51 You got to understand. I don't like probable. Do you ask me for my children? Did they know where the money came from? The devil himself said, I think if you told him, I told him the devil. 100%. The devil himself.
Starting point is 01:55:00 The devil himself said, I'm going to exchange some dollars for your child's life. Do you think you're the devil himself? No, but I do have a good mirror. It's a serious question. I'm sorry. Do you think you're the devil yourself? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:55:15 Why would you say that? Starts itching. And then he finishes the meeting right afterwards. So how do you understand? How do you interpret that? Have you ever seen somebody answer a question like that? Oh, I think he knows that he's done a lot of that things. Do you know what George Soros said in an LA Times interview in 2004?
Starting point is 01:55:32 I think it's the 2004 article. Could have been in 98. Can you type in George Soros, LA Times, Godlike? Okay? Where he says, I fancy myself as a God. And he says, and I used to think of that, but now I actually understand what. what it is to be like that. Who answers a question like that?
Starting point is 01:55:55 These are very weird people that answer. People with God complex. What year is this article, by the way? What yours is this article that was written? The God who carries 2004, yeah, oh, four article. So you just got to know, there are some people like this that are comfortable. John Lennon said he was bigger in Jesus Christ. He might have been.
Starting point is 01:56:13 And can I say, can I just say one thing? At the time. And Adam, this is the, this is big. But are we literally arguing that he is the devil? Is that your argument? The devil like. Devil-like. Adam.
Starting point is 01:56:24 Vinny said something about demon, these demons. I said, these are not demons. But let me tell you, if he called Epstein a demon, I would agree with them. There's zero hesitation. Whatever label we want to put on really, really bad people. I think people would be very surprised about are the number of real-life pedophiles in this world. They're just programmed that way. People go to fish in Costa Rica.
Starting point is 01:56:51 and they're fishing for something else. Yeah. People go to Asia, to Thailand, Bangkok, Vietnam, to do what? There is so much of that out there, Argentina to bird hunt. No, it is way bigger the appetite for younger people than you could ever imagine in this world. I mean, there are just a lot of sick fuck. Yeah, we saw the sound of freedom. We get it.
Starting point is 01:57:24 I mean, I fully agree with you. And the rich people have the, they have the ways to go. That's what it is. It's the rich people that have the means to make it not happen. Adam, I love you to death. But it's not just the rich. No, it's not just the rich, but they have the easiest way to go. With anything.
Starting point is 01:57:41 No, with anything. But here's going to go bird hunting in Costa Rica. A lot of weird, I asked one guy, one time I said a guy, he was down there, they were raising a lot of health. And you know what he said? I said, what do you show your wife? Do you show her pig? She says, yeah, we show ourselves out fishing.
Starting point is 01:57:58 What we do is the first day there, we take about five pictures with different shirts on the boat. So this is day one, this is day two, this is day three, and then they go fishing for real. And this is the thing, Adam, and I love you to death. Since the beginning of this, you have downplayed this to just Epstein was a creep. And that's it. Like, it was just a creep. He did creepy thing. You couldn't be more wrong.
Starting point is 01:58:20 I downplayed him. No, no, no, yes, you have. Let me fit. I'll let you talk for freaking five minutes. You've downplayed Jeffrey Epstein situation from day one because it's like a whatever story and you said, people are going to forget about it. It's not just a creep like he's on to catch a predator and they caught him. This is a freaking cob.
Starting point is 01:58:38 Adam, the web that he created and who he worked for. When Alex Accosso said when they tried to try him, he worked for intelligence. Could be CIA, MI6, Mossad, probably all together, Alex. You don't invite people to this island, all these rich, powerful people. You don't put cameras in every crevice to get all of them, so you have dirt on them. And what bothers me at him, when it's people like leaders or billionaires like Bill Gates or Ehud Barak, where these people are shaping the world with their decisions, and you have dirt on them, you change the future of the world.
Starting point is 01:59:10 And it's not just, okay, he was a creep and he was hooking up. He was taking advantage of these girls. He had Galane Maxwell, whose father worked for freaking, who was a huge Massad agent, Assad agent, all these MI6, all the CIA, everybody working together to have dirt on people, I think it was a monumental, it was mountains bigger than just a creep that I'd just like to hook up with underage girls. I don't like the downplaying of it because it's so big Adam, this is the JFK moment of our situation.
Starting point is 01:59:36 We're not going to know anything for years because these powerful people that Mr. Morgan was talking about are so powerful Adam that everything would fail because these disgusting demons that I call them and Packett Co-Sign. These people are okay with Adam, hooking up with underage girls and having sex with them. And Adam, Tom, which Bible verse is it? Hold on, Matthew chapter 18, verse 6.
Starting point is 02:00:01 Adam, and this is where Vincent O'Shanna, and I know me and Pat have this conversation. I pray for these people. I pray for their souls, Adam, because guess what? Hell is hot. And unless they come and have that Christ moment in their heart, Adam, that's another conversation we get into. in their heart, it is over for them.
Starting point is 02:00:18 I want to do one more story before we have up. Because justice is not going to be happening here, but it will in the afternoon. One more story before we wrap up. I'll just respond real quick. Adam, if it's more than 10 seconds, I will cut you off. There's people that downplay Epstein, but there's people that upplay Epstein.
Starting point is 02:00:32 And a lot of people have a simplistic version of life that say, Epstein, Jewish, Gaza, genocide, kill the Jews. No, no, no. There's a lot of people. Okay. So there's, as much as you want to say, people are downplaying it,
Starting point is 02:00:45 people want to upplay Epstein as if he's the devil. Listen, you said this is not even a top 20 issue for you. This is not a top 10 issue for you. You've said that before in the podcast. Very simple. I agree. Okay, great. Yeah, that doesn't mean I have an opinion on it.
Starting point is 02:00:57 No, no, of course. But now it is a big issue that New York Times writes about it a couple times. And the president has vindicated, but it doesn't mean some people that were on the list. Like this, they end up looking good for Lutnik, a couple other people. It looks great for Trump, though, right? It looks very good for him. Why did Lutnik say he was never on the list? the island. Why would he have said that? That's a mistake. I mean, but that's a big mistake. It's a big mistake.
Starting point is 02:01:21 It's a big mistake. It's always the lie. It's a big mistake. All you have to say is you were. Here's what happened. Right. Yeah, yeah. So let me get to next stories. I want to do a couple stories and John, I'll let you choose whichever one of these stories you want to do. I got Chick-fil-A Jersey mics or I got Gladiator to. Which one do you want to go to? Jersey Mike. Okay, let's go to that one. So let me go to that one. So let's order Jersey mics for lunch, guys. Let's go, John Morgan. So let me go through. Thank you for that, Adam. So So let me go through the story. Fast food giant dethroned as customer study crowns America's new favorite restaurant chain.
Starting point is 02:01:55 And this article is written by, you know who? Fox News. So it's not like it's written by anybody else. And so America's fast food chain has been knocked from the top spot and closely watch. Customer Satisfaction Ranking is Chick-fil-A, which topped the annual American Customer Service Index in 2025, felt to second place. Jersey Mike's officially claims first place with an ACSI score of 84 out of 100, edging out Chick-fil-A by, you know what? 83 by one point.
Starting point is 02:02:23 Hello, Jersey Mike, with that original sandwich that they make, the shift marks the first time in over a decade that a new chain has led the ACSI quick service restaurant category. They described Jersey Mike as a new leader among QSR, adding that it was the first time in more than a decade that a new chain led to quick service category, the reported credit Jersey Mike with maintaining high customer satisfaction while rapidly expanding its restaurant footprint. Jersey Mike, ACSI success,
Starting point is 02:02:56 consistent with their business performance, including rapid unit growth, strong customer demand, and a model design around through, put an off-premise convenience from a high digital pickup usage. Jersey Mike founded in Point Pleasantette. Jersey in 1956 has more than,
Starting point is 02:03:12 and 4,000 locations across the U.S. John, your thoughts on the story. First thing I will tell you about Jersey Mikes is my wife Ultima is Jersey Mikes all the way. She loves Jersey Mikes. That's cool. You know what I've been fascinated with, a little bit into money? The new billionaires in this country own a bunch of sub-shops. And you know how they do it?
Starting point is 02:03:40 scaling. Jersey Mike's guy is a billionaire, the guy that did Subway, DeLuca is a billionaire, the fireman from Jacksonville are billionaires, Jimmy Johns is. And then you flip over to the chicken people. Raising Keynes is a billionaire. It has been fascinating to me the wealth that's been made from chicken tenders and subs. And you never would have thought it. And it's all about scaling. Chick-fil-A is the gold standard. I told people back during the COVID,
Starting point is 02:04:22 if we want to get everybody vaccinated in a week, let's just let Chick-fil-A get it done. And we would all have been vaccinated in seven days. COVID would have been ended in about six months. months early. So the next time, if I'm Bobby Kennedy and we have a plague, turn it over to Chick-fil-A, because they'll get that shit done. By the way, here, are you Chick-Filley or Jersey Mike? Can you run a poll real quick to see where people are at? It's which team you are. That's all I care about. Team Jersey Mike or
Starting point is 02:04:56 team Chick-fil-A. I'm actually curious how the audience will react to. Where are you at? I'm a I'm a Jersey-Mite guy. I do absolutely love, though, the Chick-fil-A-C-fil-A-C-fil-A-C-Fes. summer service, whoever their management, Pat, leadership, right. They're, everybody in there is freaking happy. Everybody is freaking having a good time and everybody's really nice. And they're, I mean, I don't have anything bad about Jersey mics. Well, the thing about Chick-fil-A, number one, most franchisees only can have one store.
Starting point is 02:05:24 I mean, I got a friend Billy Fender, has got two in Tennessee. But they make you have one, I mean, they make that be your life. for me the downside to chick filet is the waffle fries so if i'm going to go to chick fillet i'm going to have to go to get my chicken sandwich and then i'm going to drive down the street and get my french fries from mcdonald i got you because i i mean the the the waffle fries now some people are you a waffle fry guy not i'm going to be honest with you john no i'm not i'm not i'm i don't want to lie you john you know who i am not i'm a mcdonald's go inside and i say hey listen because my blood pressure, can you make me fries without the salt?
Starting point is 02:06:04 They'll make you a brand new batch without question. That's a good idea. But John, why don't they open up like a combination restaurant where it's like Chick-fil-A with the McDonald's fries sold in the same place? I mean, what are we talking about? You know how we could really make some money? Let's do it. Let's have public sell us their sub stuff,
Starting point is 02:06:21 and let's go open up public subs because the best subs. Oh, yeah. There's a line in. Public subs, you can't get in. There's a line in there. Yeah. I'm with it. Jersey Mike, Chick-fil-A.
Starting point is 02:06:33 I'm a Jersey-Mike guy. I appreciate, I love the story of the little sub-shop that went big. I love that. I just, I've never had a situation where I felt like, well, I won't go there because it's going to a restaurant where it's not busy, you know, because it's speed. Now, you never go in a restaurant where it's not busy because then you want to look at the letter that's stuck to the front window, see if it's a, maybe it's a C. It'd be like, whoops, maybe I shouldn't eat there.
Starting point is 02:06:59 No, they're always quick. It's always efficient, and I just, I really appreciate it. You know, and I, you know, it's like, Anne, you're going to say something here. I'll order my subs, topless. You know, I'm correct. So what? I want half the bread. I'll say no top on the bread.
Starting point is 02:07:16 Tom is getting dirty on that. Tom getting knicked. Where they cut the top off the bread, so they do it, and then they put the lettuce on top and wrap it. Keep going, Tom. So you can hold the bread on the bottom, eat it like this. Because I only want half the. What just happened right? Tom just got freaky with that sandwich, Tommy.
Starting point is 02:07:30 At least you're being honest about it. Turn off the lights. Remember this about bread. Eat bread look like bread. Wow. Ooh. That's a good point.
Starting point is 02:07:42 Wisdom right there. Eat bread look like. Adam, final thoughts with you. If it's more than 10 seconds, I'm going to make you stunt. My answer is Chick-fil-A. I've never been in a Chick-fil-A until I started working a valutainment. And everyone said, sort of calling our friend Kelly Chick-fil-A-Kelly.
Starting point is 02:07:56 She always said, my pleasure. My pleasure. I said, why did they call her Chick-fil-A-C-fil-C-Elly? they said you've never been to a chick-fil-a. I said, no, I walked in with Chick-fil-A. I've never been more mind-blown in my life on the unreasonable hospitality and customer service. I mean, the best thing I've ever seen in my life. Let me tell you one last Chick-fil-A.
Starting point is 02:08:14 One last Chick-fil-A story. One time the line was so far, we were in the Home Depot parking lot. So I said, you know, it's going to be quicker to go in. So I walk in the Chick-fil-A in Lake Mary, and it's jammed in there. And I'm at the back of the line. And I'm in the back of the line, and this girl comes from around the counter, she says, sir, come with me. Oh, I'm going to the front of the line.
Starting point is 02:08:37 She took me to the front of the line. She put it up there, and I'm thinking, you know, she knows who I am. Oh, yeah. This is fantastic. I'm getting preferential treatment. And I said, I got my stuff. I'm going ahead of everybody. And she said, thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:08:56 And I said, thank you very much for doing this for me. And she said, don't worry about it. it, sir, we do this for all of our seniors. Oh, man. And I'm like, I'm like, fuck me. Brought you down a peg. I'll never go. I will never go.
Starting point is 02:09:18 I will wait in the fucking I for. I'm never going in. The great John Morgan. Oh, my God. I didn't know where that was going. Oh, my God. Dude, I just cramped up with that. You know?
Starting point is 02:09:33 Get the hell away from me. Oh, God, it's so bad. Never inside. Listen, 70-30, our audience chose Chick-fil-A. No matter what with the survey, they're like, nah, I'm going with Chick-fil-A. Let me see what the exact number it is right now. Is it 70?
Starting point is 02:09:47 Yeah, 71-39. 29. Our audience has good taste. Chick-fil-A's got it. Okay, to wrap up, again, gang, if you're watching this, if you enjoyed it, go click on that link, support them. And we have a reputation of being the best at moving books, because when we get folks that are here coming and sharing their wisdom,
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