PBD Podcast - Tu Lam | PBD Podcast | EP 97

Episode Date: October 22, 2021

During Episode 97 of the PBD Podcast, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Adam Sosnick, Gerard Michaels, and special guest Tu Lam to talk about topics such as America's re-education camps, the shipping crisis, and much more. Watch the full podcast: https://youtu.be/09-BqN0x594 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

We are officially live special show today episode number 97 PVD podcast with Gerard Adam and the one and only Ronin from Call of Duty aka 2 Lam 23 years in a military 20 years special ops. The guys got an incredible story of escaping Vietnam on a boat while living out of refugee camp how Russians came and saved them. I mean literally this is a story out of a movie. Can I wait to share that story with them? I've been following this stuff for a while.

This guy's a badass. Every time his name comes up, everybody has great things to say about him. So it's an honor to have you on here, brother. Truly, it's great to have you on here. I got to, okay. Thanks for coming up. Thanks for having me on. Yes, absolutely.

So, you know, we got a lot of stories we're going to cover. Obviously, I woke up last night I Was doing my business out of few people over and we're sitting on having a conversation until one o'clock in the morning I get this exciting message. I have never seen Adam this excited about Trump opening up a social media site Oh, yeah, and wanted to be a part of it and then I think it's important for us to talk about the traumatic event You had this week. It's a part of it. And then I think it's important for us to talk about the traumatic event you had this week. It's a lot of trauma. A friend lent you a car. Some stuff happened. There is a audience needs to know. And then we'll talk about some serious issues outside of that

on shipping crisis, which you have a lot of experience with. We'll talk Afghanistan. We'll talk about what's going on with the SWAT team quitting. Navy SEALs quitting because they don't want to take the vaccine and we want to get your insights And stats the world you were in for 20 years special apps Barry Weiss had some interesting comments to make to stelter On who told you you are not allowed to cover certain stories and she laid into him We'll talk about America's re-education camp And a few other stories that we may get into car like I made a few comments this week that I think it's a good to cover

Kyosaki was at the birthday party. Yeah, you had a chance to spend some time with the girls. I got a great time He had women flocking to him. I was it woman flocking to him like they were actually attracted to this guy Good lady. He was he was a good looking and we are no it was very hard to get a word in with with with rich rich dad Him. Yeah poor dad much easier to get a word in with with with rich rich dad him yeah poor dad much easier to get a word rich dad not gonna have a lot a lot of people I'm a rich trying to talk to you. We had a good time for you're I'm gonna work with the service that birthday party started at seven. Okay, and we thought you know Maybe like you know the do you can tell people stamina on how it works and who stamina can last right?

You had not had any sleep because the night before you were spending way too much on reading books. And so with your friends. Avid river. Yeah, so it goes. Happy birthday, by the way. Appreciate you. You see the first crew leave, second crew leave,

third crew leave, fourth crew leave, fifth crew leave. By the sixth, seventh, eighth crew, they're not leaving. You gotta kick them out. And so like, listen guys, you gotta go and- That was us. That was us. Four o'clock in the morning before the end not leaving so having said to would you be at the early crew to leave the late crew you stand late for the party what's your what's

your party vibes on the first one to leave thanks I have to use the restroom yeah there were people Oh, Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign.

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Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Irish can't sign. Are you still on only on 10th date? Have you guys had an 11th and a 12th and a 13th or what's the number because so the Irish exit? Well, we Did the subject on that's right. Yeah, well, let's first of all first of all not only did she like him. She was attractive Yeah, wait a minute

Nervous because Gerard Gerard's one of those guys. He just can't wait to get married He wants to have a family. He wants to sell. He's one, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, today, today, appreciate all the love, appreciate all the birthday wishes. Thank you. Today is about two. Two, for the audience that doesn't know, maybe they only know you from Call of Duty. Maybe they've seen a couple of interview stories that you've done, whether it's with the knife, whether it's how to handle the gun,

whether it's how to handle the weapon, which is your specialty. Won't you take a few minutes minutes and share with us your story, your background, how you went from where you were at at the age of two, three, when you, your brother, your mom, the whole story to come into the States. Share your story a little bit with the audience. Yeah, thank you Patrick.

I mean, it's through the struggles that we find our strength. And that's, that's, that's truly what my life is about. I was born in Vietnam, I was born in a coach-C-Met Floor in the basement of Saigon, Ha Saong Muthur shielded my body from incoming auteurifier in my morning, my birth. At this stage of the war, you know American troops have left Vietnam and this left a devastating impact on people itself. I was born on the losing side of war. In the mid 70s, one is this? I was born in 74. 74.

Yeah, so American troops are really left Vietnam. 75 was when Saigon fell to Vietnam. Everybody always talks about Vietnam reminds them of Afghanistan, everything that's going on. And truly, that's what it was, guys, because we were oppressed. We were my uncles that served alongside Americans. They were in prison. They were brought out to the re-education camps.

These were labor camps, torture camps. When I received my uncle in the States, he was in prison for 15 years. When I received him in the States, he had no skin on the bottom of his foot. They skint the bottom of his foot. They broke him as a human being, as an individual. I mean, literally, he laid in the corner of the foot. They skint the bottom of his foot. They broke him as a human being, as an individual. I mean, literally, he laid in the corner of the room. He wouldn't even lay in bed because

he was that, dramatically traumatized. At three years old, we escaped on a wooden fishing boat. You know, this boat probably fits about 45 people. That night, that morning that we escaped, we were fitting over 100 people in that boat. And guys, the trip was to come out of Vietnam and into Malaysia, right? So two day trip. That was rough. On this fishing boat, that was on this fishing boat, right?

So we had to sleep on the bottom deck. I was a little child three years old, but we had to sleep on the bottom deck. I was a little child three years old, but we had to sleep sitting up. So think about like, you don't even feel your limbs anymore, your legs, right? Because everybody's just over stuff. So the poetry was going on during that time. So a lot of bandits, pirates, robbers from surrounding

countries, it was a lucrative business for them to stop the boats, killing the men, rape the women, and torture the children. It was common practicerative business for them. To stop the boats, kill the men, rape the women, and torture the children. It was common practice amongst the fleeing refugees to carry poison within their belongings. And the refugees were poisoned their children if they tripped in for us. As opposed to subjective in life of slavery.

Life of slavery, human trafficking, torture. The bandits were known to torture to show. And we've seen... Just a thought about that. A thought of that is just parents carrying poison to prevent their kids from going through that level of struggle. Right. I mean, that's just trauma-decised level.

Please continue. So we navigate out of Vietnam. My mother said there was a Navy captain. So he knew the tactics, you know, and how to get past the pirates, basically shot off the engines, collided down the motor, and he ex-filled out there at night,

you know, under cover darkness. We went into the shores of Malaysia, and this time the Malaysian coast guard, they shot at us, they stopped us. No more refugees in our country, you know. So basically they hooked and anchors back on with a line to forcefully drug us back out into the South China Sea, shot our motor, cut the line and left us there to die. Now what I want to say is guys, we it was a two day plan trip. So there was hardly any water.

There was hardly any supplies. It was hardly any food. We didn't plan that. So what I'm saying is now we're stranded. Now this is a desperate survival situation in the middle of the South China Sea, you know? So people are dying. My mother said that we drifted roughly a month. We're out of sea.

So people were dying, people were getting thrown overseas, people were getting sick. And my mother, she's contemplating on that poison. Because you're three years old at this time. I was three. Are there other family members of yours with you? Is it your brother? My brother?

My biological father and my mother. And you're three, he's seven, right? If I recall your brother, seven, I think. You're a baby. I mean, like the seven-year-old, at least, kind of knows what's going on. You've got no clue what's going on, I assume, right? You know, I studied a mind later on in life

that means I study how the mind works. And you know, if you suffer from something so traumatic, and if you can really slow down a analytical mindset and get into your subconscious, you know, I do have visions of that trip, you know, it's small little flashes, but long story short, we were drifting out of the ocean. People were dying, people were getting sick, but we were drinking urine. I mean, it was a desperate survival situation.

And my mother said that she she contemplated poison that she woke us up one night and she contemplated poison and we had ulcers growing on our legs. I mean, there's no blood circulation on our legs. Think about how overstuffed that boat was, you know, malnourished and my mother gave us everything she had the water she had the food she had, but now she was down to her last bucket of water. And she contemplated this poison. She said later on, you know, she woke my brother up and made him drink half of the bucket of water and she made me drink. And then she cried, she couldn't do it, she couldn't kill us. You know, so it was a miracle that it's transpired at night because that's the night that we got caught up in a storm. A huge tropical storm, think about like the

South China Sea Patrick, right? Huge tropicals are fishing boat. These waves could easily tip this over. Crazy. Can you pull up the South China Sea for a location reference? Yes, it's crazy just to think about it. And this storm, this storm saved us. See, it washed this into the long coordination of this route where a Russian supply boat was exing out of it. Now, if that's not a god story, I'm going to tell you that's a God story, man.

The South China Sea is a huge ocean, and we were drugged back out into the South China Sea, and then somehow through the coordinates of a lat long, a Russian supply boat intercepted us, and that right there is a million and one. Yeah, that's the type of thing that happens in a movie and you're like, no way. That was the chances that a ship intersects them. Yeah, that's. And somehow if you guys had gone to Cambodia, it would have been even worse for you. I mean, the killing feels Cambodia, God in saying. So the Russian supply boat, well, I want to paint this picture, guys, because the Russian ideology, the social ideologies, what ripped the part of the country, right?

Right, the Marxism. You might share in the story of how the leader at that time came to America for help. They turned them down to bring Westernized philosophy back to his country. Then Russia said yes, then he brought communism down to Vietnam and everything. Can you mind sharing that story? Yeah, so you know the French are trying to call on the Indochina war.

What people don't understand is they think the Vietnam war is only the American involvement. My mother was born in war. You know what's France's mess? Right, the Indochina war. Like by the time the Vietnam war ended for my parents, they've been at war for close to 20 years. Oh, right.

And that's what people all understand. So what Patrick is saying is, Ho Chi Minh came in and they were trying to colonize. He started seeing a divide between his country, right? Vietnam. So you had a South Vietnam, you had to know if it's clearly a divide in ideology, right? So he first, he came to the Americans and he asked for help, but we didn't want any vomit there.

Because we didn't want to go against our French allies, and they did have a point. The French were being brutal with their plantations. As if the French were, they were colonizing America. They were colonizing Vietnam like they they it was still Africa and America centuries before. It was imperialism from the 1800s still going on in the U.N. Yeah, it was still going on in the slave. But what did it understand was the Vietnamese people, their train with the warfare of Sanju, right? That means unconventional as a Green Beret, I'm telling you, right? That means unconventional war, as the Green

Bray, I'm telling you, I'm a master unconventional warfare. We found our independence as Americans in the Revolutionary War under unconventional warfare. So when the French tried to colonize, they were facing an unconventional warfare type of army, a Sanju type of tactics. So they're having a hard time. And Ho Chi Minh went to Americans and asked for help. We didn't have any interest there. He went to Russians. Obviously that communist ideology was embedded into Ho Chi Minh. He only cared about uniting his country under one country again. Right? So communism came. the Russian started supporting the the communist ideology the North Vietnamese grew the armies and they rage

unconventional warfare against a conventional force of Americans how long does guerrilla tactics need to you know be implemented before that actually is conventional warfare like at this at this point there's no Standing armies lining up across the battlefield from each other anymore, right? Like, isn't all unconventional warfare today, or all warfare today, technically unconventional? I mean, yeah, the warfare that I found in is very unconventional because, you know, it's no declared two sides of the army, right? You're not, you know, you're in this uniform, I'm in this uniform, this is the battlefield,

no, it's the battlefield is in the United States. The battlefields in Yemen, Sinai, Iraq, Afghanistan, all these different areas. The battlefield for me was the secret wars. You know, so, and that's what I mean. So when Vietnam fell to that, you know, they started raging on conventional warfare. They knew, they started raging on conventional warfare.

They knew, look guys, warfare is expensive. We know that, right, after again, a stand-eye rack. Warfare is expensive. So the Chinese, if you study their tactics under Sun Zhu, warfare is expensive. They'll never employ soldiers to put a footprint there for too long. Americans do, and that's our mistake. Right, so we employ Americans overseas,

we're funding Americans to fight these wars, right, overseas. How expensive is it to keep Americans overseas? How expensive is the Ford? Ammonitions, supplies, weapons, the assets, like the drones. Potentially, intentionally so though, I mean, the industrial and military complex

has made a lot of people mega wealthy and they've never had to step foot outside of DC. So when the country fell to to communism, eventually it failed to communism and Americans bought out because it was expensive for it was an unpopular war. It was an unpopular war because up and to then the media censored everything. So do you think about war two? I think about war two, war one, the Philippines, all these different words.

You watch that, the media censors everything. It wasn't to the Vietnam War, was when they allow reporters to come in. And unfortunately, guys, hey, look, when you see women and children dying in warfare, and you see the true realities of war is, it's ugly, and it smells, and it stinks. So when America is getting a snapshot of, I don't know, a American killing a civilian, is it a civilian? Because I've been in countries where rebels will come in and wipe out a whole village and have a eight

year old, is he now a militant or is he still a child because he just killed his parents? You see it's a different world, what's why I'm saying to you? So you know when Vietnam fell to that and the Americans they could not sustain this unpopular, very expensive war that's unconventional. They're not used in fact the Green Brayes and the Special Forces were developed to combat, you know, this insurgency. You know, that's where it came from. So when that country fell to it,

Ho Chi Minh was able to stow some more comments to regime, and his main concern, once he took over to country, South Vietnam, was to make sure that our leaders would never rise up the power again like Afghanistan. Think about like anybody who hold position of power, they're murdered. They're killed, right? So the same with the Vietnamese, if anybody holds position power like my uncles had, they were officers, they were drug-doubted camps and tortured. You know, we were oppressed.

Simply for what? Opposing ideas, ideas that they did not agree with, ideas that contradict to what they believed in. Well, like, you know, Sarajevo Bosnia, you know, people, different ideologies, they'll wipe out a hole. This is, like, don't believe what they believe. Yeah, and, and dissension, you know, disagreement seen as dissension. It's not seen as civil discourse. One of the great things about the way our country was founded, it was founded on civil discourse. Let's have this disagreement.

Let's have the two houses argue it out. And then let's have it, you know, then let's, you know, have a law, as opposed to the top down, you know, decree mandate from the king, right? So, but I want to say this because when I came over to America, right, you know, because I lived in like,

I lived in a refugee camp, year and a half, guys. You know, in Indonesia, and it was a grass hut in the middle of the jungle, you have to survive, you have to live off the land, they don't give you anything. Hipsters do that for vacation now, too. They do. Yeah, they're very spiritual. It's very spiritual because you know what's really weird is that we are all successful men. We value certain things,

but I tell you man, when I went into these thermal countries and these villages where there was nothing, they were happy. So what are we doing wrong? We're looking at the externals to be happy. You know, it goes underneath samurai teachings, it goes underneath a print, but we look for the externals to make ourselves happy these days, right? So I think that's what's wrong with America, what's wrong with a modern-day society.

If you go to these sterile countries, they are happy because they're around their families and they're around their friends. Let me ask a couple of questions. Based on what you just went right now because we just want to complete it from place which is good. It opens it up. So, I'm watching your body language as you're telling your story.

I get two sides here. I see a side, if I didn't know you and I met you for the first time and I saw you at a restaurant. I'd say this guy's a gentle, sweet, the way you talk, calm, all that stuff, on the way you speak. I don't know if you guys get that feeling, that's the feeling I get. I get a very sweet gentle side, right?

How are you hiding that rage inside? How did you do that? Because there's no way in the flipping World that you are gonna be able to live that kind of a life have that kind of trauma have that kind of animosity On what was done where nobody can describe that to you. This is your life. This is not a movie. This is not a book. This is not a article we're reading How are you managing that? Because the same way as your gentle, on the other side, special ops, I know what it is, in the special ops,

I hung out with those guys, whether it was Delta, I was about to become 18, 18 Delta with fifth, four Campbell Kentucky. I went and interviewed a lot of guys, like you and I said, I'm gonna go a different direction,

I got out of the military. How do you manage that gentle side and the rage side? You know, Patrick, I'm gonna put you in my worst day. You know, and through the struggles, right? When I said no, I'm gonna put you through this day. You know, I was, I was eight years old. And people always ask me, too, what's your first memories of America? I'll tell you. My mother took me to a grocery store and she she balled this food and look now I don't mean anything to you guys but

I'm telling you when you starve and you're in the ref you can't for a year and a half that means everything and then she was so happy and she took she took me out with mother and son day you know we were loading the groceries into the car and this man came up to me and he spit on my face and he flicked my mom off and he told me to go home. He called me Chink. This is in America. Eight years old Carolina. That was my first memories of America. Unpopular Vietnam War and I was the image of a unpopular Vietnam War. And when I was eight, I went to school.

It was very poor. I had holes on my clothes. You know, we lived in a poor part of town. I was reminded how poor I was every day. And we went in school. It was Sub-2 Teacher Day. And my name is pronounced Dutten Lomb in Denimese, right? But I say too loud, so you guys don't mess up my Denimese name. So it was Sub-2 Teacher Day. He He called my name and obviously he said it wrong and everybody made fun of me. Everybody's throwing papers at me. Remind me how poor I was.

And it was his bully. He made fun of me. He made his slanted eyes. And we both got in trouble, right? I don't know how I got in trouble. I got in trouble. I know he went down to the principal's office and the principal's saddest day. He told our parents need to come pick us up. My mom didn't drive it at times, so I knew I was gonna be there for a while. And then the bully's mother came in first, and she demanded Noah's wrong. The principal stood up and he looked over,

and he goes, your son caught that boy right there, a chink. I sat back down. The mother went in the corner, she picked up her son, walked over to me, and you know, had somebody stand there, you have to look up, because I was looking at the ground, she picked up her son, walked over to me and you know how somebody stands there You have to look up because I was looking at the grouse ready to feed it I looked up and she said my son is right You don't belong here and you need to go back home to your country

You're eight years old, but they try so hard. I hyperventilated and principal say boy boy, you're going to cry like that and you're going to go to home. And that night I came home. I didn't even talk to my mom of so upset. And my mother came in. I didn't even eat dinner. She came in. She sat down next to me.

She said, son, there will be the bad days. But what do you learn from it? Never asked me what everything that happened or anything's wrong. I knew at that point That I got tired of being this huge weak human being, you know I was escaped from war. I found you know a face deaf of face, you know, the refugee camps and I got tired being this weak human being So I made a promise to myself that day I was going to be stronger than hate, but what's that even look like look like right so what what what would you see in me Patrick is I have rage It's there and I can switch it on and off at any second

But it's like a weapon is I can safety that gun Right because I drive as a warrior I drive off a compassion So so let's let's go through this. Okay, when you said that, I'm trying to see how that trauma affected me. I'm a kid I come to the States. When I came here was seventh grade. So whatever seventh grade is, I'm 12 years old

and I'm coming here, and my English sucked. So for me, they would, I had a hard time pronouncing a government, I would say government, I had a hard time pronouncing Wednesday, I would say government. I had a hard time pronouncing Wednesday. I would say Wednesday because of that, and that's there, it really screws the whole thing up. Whoever came up with that name, they need to be fired as a, you know, right now.

There was a show called Gilligan's Island. I was a Gilligan's Island because that S is there. Why the hell would you put an S there? What's the problem with these guys here, right? I'm sure you struggled with lasagna. Lasagna, that was easy because my mother made lasagna. But fresh off the boat, you know, hey, you're fresh, you're full, you're fresh off the boat.

I'm like, I'm gonna buy the damn boat one day, you guys have to pass me out, right? But that rage was either going into humor to lighten the load, because you have to be like, hey, funny all this other stuff, you know, it's the humor side to kind of calm you down. A lot of times, comedians have lived a very difficult life. What did you do with it?

Like did you put it in martial arts? Did you put it at 13, 14 years old in sports? Did you put it in fighting kids? Like, we're a heated guy, we had a guy in school, then it was Andy, Asian guy. And this guy would walk so calm. One time a guy called them something. A good friend of mine.

He didn't just beat the guy. He almost killed the guy. We had to pick him up. We couldn't even pick this guy up. He was like, gonna kill this kid if we didn't stop him. And he went from a calm, sweet kid to a guy capable of killing somebody. Where did you release your tension and anger into? What was that for you as a young teenager?

You know, I was raised, my stuff, I was a special force. It was my own coach, special force. And so I was raised, my stuff, I was a special forces, my own coach, special forces. So I was raised in Fayetteville, outside for Bragg, the biggest special operations. Maybe second, right? More commandos walk there than anywhere in the United States. I was raised around that.

But when you asked me what my outlet was, you know, Patrick, I was beaten. I was bullied. My whole, my whole auto all the way to high school. My Outlet was, you know, my spending time with my father the special forces, but I knew, let me bring you this day. So I was being picked on, would spit on,

close, you know, being ripped off me, just remind how poor I was in my uncle, special forces. American Spanner, he was the one who found that our paperwork to get us to United States. American Special Forces, he was an officer, his G-Base guy over and vet knob, he got stabbed by SKS, he backed out. This guy's, he's an amazing American,

and my uncle picked me up, right? And he drove me in. He must have sent something wrong with me that day, because he said something. I just out of blue. He said, you know, too, there'll be days that people are going to spit on you and they're going to judge. You're going to flick you off

and they're going to say, you don't belong here. You need to ask yourself, do you want to be a fucking commando today? You know when you're bone's egg and you found all your injuries and you just want to quit on life You need to ask yourself do you want to be a fucking commando? They went as cold outside as raining and you know the right thing to do is to get up and Exercise your body because you're this weapon that America needs you ask yourself, you're from the fucking commando today.

God, I love that. And I was 11. Can you imagine the impact I meant, commando, life of discipline, when I'm so weak and being picked on? I don't think you were weak though, because I would have broken a lot of people. Yeah, you weren't weak. You were just, you didn't know how to take control yet. You didn't know how to set boundaries.

You didn't, you were not weak. And not to disagree with your life story, forgive me. But, you know, that would have broken a lot, a lot, a lot of people, man. And, you know, Jordan Peterson has a great saying that only the violent are capable of peace. Because if you're not capable of violence, you're incapable of peace, you're obedient,

you're subservient. Only people capable of violence can choose to be peaceful. You know, everybody else, it's not your choice. So I mean, in that regard, it sounds like, you know, the light went off where you were like, I need to become capable of violence in order to gain the respect I need. And then, you know, scale light went off where you were like, I need to become capable of violence in order to gain the respect I need and then, you know, scale it back from there

and know when to use it and when not to use it. The light went off when a year after my father left me, my biological father left me and I haven't heard from him and I was being spit on, picked on. I was now indoctrinated to a very strict military upbringing because my stepfather was a drill sergeant and special forces.

It was 4'30 in the morning. I would raise the flag, put the handle on my heart. I would do physical training before I even start school, dress code. I was, what I'm saying was I had a hard time with a discipline. And my mother came to me with this box. And she said, you know, son, this is from your father. And you know, and I set the box across the room because

I was so disappointed in my father because he didn't hear from him. So finally I had to curse, open up this box and I opened up the box and inside this box was four contents. It was these VHS tapes that were dubbed, right? And they were written in Vietnamese. I didn't know how to read Vietnamese. I said, Ramley picked up tape. I threw it in the VCR. It was the art of Budo. If you don't know what that means,

it's the martial art side being samurai. The way, Bushito. You know, I was very defeated at that moment and then this image of samurai, this image of a higher mobile way, more away living, a moral values to dedicate your life to being aware, to help others others compassion. You know, that's the Bushido Code, right? So, if you ask me, Patrick, that was my escape education. Bushido, a lawyer's upbringing, we are in the samurai culture to call Bushi, the study of being aware samurai. So, at 16, you know, I tried out for, you know,

a lot of the intensive training, the physical training that I know I needed for special ops. And at 18, there was no direct hire into special forces back then. So I went to the 82nd paratroopers. I went to the Long Ranger Constance and the Abyssal Constance teams. And then I made to special forces in 21.

Two, what was the first fight you ever got into? Like, where you beat somebody up? How old were you in the first fight you got into? Oh, I was beaten almost every day in elementary school in junior high. I wouldn't say it was more of me fighting. It was them beating me. When did that stop?

When was the first time what they said? You know what, I just probably not a good idea to mess with two anymore. This guy. I remember that I started studying martial arts when I was eight. More of the discipline. My stepfather was, he taught me the dream beret side of combatos, you know, special forces, hand-to-hand combat. So there was this bully picked on me and I smashed his nose in, you know, special forces, hand-to-hand combat. So there was this bully picked on me,

and I smashed his nose in, you know, unfortunately, he shatters whole nose. Eight years old? No, I was thinking I was 12 at that time. I had enough. By middle school, you were ready to? Yeah, I was that kid that, you know, when you go back, when you're wall-locker,

and you have post-east stickers like chink and and go back home like those were normal for me, right? And I got tired of it and I smashed in this kid's face. And, oh man, I was in trouble, you know, not only in school, but at home because my father was teaching me these moves. And here I am employing them in a very lethal way because did this happen consistently or no? You're the guy that got into a lot of fights or no? No. Okay. You know I believe in the martial arts, I believe in if we can not fight, don't fight. So here's the story of not fighting. So my father didn't want me to fight right. He said you're not doing it. You're going to go to school.

You're going to be this gift of kid, AP class, that you're going to do to this, right? He told you not to fight back. Yeah. Yeah, because so many movies were killing movies. Because you knew the moves, but he didn't want you to use them. Yeah, even for the choice. Destroy these kids.

Yeah, you know. I mean, the moves that we were taught is to blow out some of these ear drums by cupping your hands to put your fingers through some of these eyes to just shash it to smash in their face and nose to break their neck that we need to. But these are moves that were taught to him in the Special Forces and moves that was given to me, but in a very secret manner. Yes, it's not breaking Balsa wood to get your yellow belt type of stuff. that was given to me, but in a very secret manner.

This is not breaking Balsa wood to get your yellow belt type of stuff. Exactly. This is true, actual Depto. It's true, the Ardibudo, which is the combat side of being a whir. So I knew all that, and I was being picked on, but this is where strategy came and played, because I was a student of Ninja Zoo and Samurai. And I was studying, when I say student, I would study, right? Their history and the arts and the ninjas are always about what? About us, Martin, you're a opponent, right? Because they were employees of spies, right?

Conniscence. So I realized that and I knew DeBully schedule. So I would write down his timeline, his schedule. And I would look at his pattern of life. And then I knew his pattern of life and his schedule. So I would avoid his pattern of life and the schedule. Now, you seem to have been very, very alone in Europe bringing a lot of the Viet community down south. And my time, Biloxi, Mississippi, some other places out and out by Dallas, they come in groups. There's entire families that come and they resettle, you know,

from the refugee camps. Were you and your mother and your brothers, you know, alone in favor? No. So, favor, I want to say, is a mixed town because of the military population, right? So a lot of military, marriage, foreigners, very mixed town. But when you're saying to Vietnamese refugees, I wanted to bring this because this is another incident that led me to who I am today. It's when I was 11.

First, my uncle, right, he gave me that speech. And later on that year, my mother would drive across town and we would drive hours. Hours, she would drive to drop off food to these refugees, right? And I told my mom, so I asked my mom, like, Mom, why do you do this? Why do we waste all day driving across town to give food to people that don't even care? They didn't even say thank you. My mother, she stopped the car, she grabbed me,

and she said, look at me. She said, you know, son, it doesn't matter conditions or circumstances if we can, we must help others. And in doing so, we create a better world. You see, that's Confucianism. That's Confucius, right? If you want to make a better world, it starts with in.

And I realized that, and I knew like the special forces had the ability to enter countries in the freedom of suppress, in the freedom of slaves, and the fight for the people that were my family. What's really very, very fascinating to me about your story is the juxtaposition with socialism that you talked about earlier. The CCP in particular uses those confusion origins to spread socialism.

They said socialism is just the logical, economic implementation of Confucianism. And you are in that upbringing, in that environment, where you're getting picked on constantly, the upper class, the reminding you of how poor you are, you're feeling very, very helpless in that moment. You are ripe for the picking, for, you know, extremist, communist, socialist ideology.

You are their top target. And yet you, from what I know about you, you're pretty staunch anti-socialist. How did those two things come about? With socialisms, when I'm prisoned my family, socialisms, what murdered my family, I saw the genocide, I saw the oppression from it. So I felt that energy. It's not like I'm reading a socialist ideology. I've seen it firsthand. I've seen it around the world.

I've seen communist countries. You know, I've been to 20 some countries. Communism was our primary enemy when I first came in. We would study the sounds of helicopters and vehicles of Russian tanks, Russian helicopters, and we would close our eyes and hear Russian helicopters on a headset, and we had to write down what we're hearing and the distance we're hearing from and the directions coming from. So what I'm saying to you is we study Russian doctrine because that was our enemy. It's always been our enemy.

We took our eyes off the ball. I have a question for you regarding patriotism, right? So I totally understand why you would have no love for communism or socialism. That's literally what killed your family and friends back in Vietnam. But to use Gerard's example, juxtapose that with coming to America, this capitalism, a home of capitalism, and there you are, eight years old, getting spit on, called the chink, beat up, you know, left for dead,

so to speak. Where does the patriotism come from that you say, all right, I got a fight for this country. It's like, you're almost like a man without a home where it's like you're getting kicked out of your country. You come to America, they're literally telling you, chink, go back home. How do you become a American patriot?

Like, where does that come from? I was raised by warriors. I was raised by green braze. I was raised by patriots. I was raised by my grandfather who fought in the Second World War and you know the Korean wars. I was raised by my father who fought in wars and defended our countries and our freedoms. I had no freedom in this country so I know what it means to not be American. Right, I wasn't given a status of freedom. I didn't have even a country.

So when people say go back to your country, we had no country. We had nothing. So why the patriotism? Because America gave me a home when no other country didn't. So no matter how unfairly or unjustly you're being treated, you still loved America, is that fair to say?

Do you believe that one person that's racist towards you reflects all of Americans? That's a good example. Do you believe in, you know, because I served in United States Army and I felt racism all through the, all the way to the top tier, the national asset of America? Do you, do you, stereotype everybody because of one or two?

You know, so the thing is this, I'm stronger than hate. I said that one, oh, it's eight. So I'm stronger than racism. I'm stronger than oppression. I'm stronger than all these things. Did you have friends in school that said, come on too, like you're my guy, man, like just,

let's forget about that asshole over there, like let's hang out and go, like, it's cool. I was ostracized, I was, you know, any friend. The kid that was poor, the stink, that smelled like fish, I was that. That's still make your blood boil? No, because it's through the struggles you find your strength.

So I realized that unless I face that at a young age, I wouldn't have the strength I needed to fight for the oppressed. I wouldn't understand what it means to be that. So when I go into a village in Afgar in the Philippines and I'm fighting in Zamawanga and these children lost their freedoms, I can understand at a deeper level than anybody else. So, how do you feel taking that to today? How do you feel when you see, you know,

so many incredibly wealthy, like John Stuart, so many of them, I'm a fan of as a comedian, do a segment on the problem with freedom. Or you see incredibly wealth-head fed, wealthy Ivy League students, championing socialism and telling people to give up their freedom of speech. You know, you're coming from a place of, of, like you said before, this isn't reading philosophy. You're not reading DOS copentile, you've lived it.

So now you see these people, and do you pity them? Do you say they just don't know what they know, or what are your thoughts on this moment? It's hard to see America at this moment because we're so divided in our ideals and the greatest country, you know? I mean, any patriot loves our country, right? We all love our country.

Yeah, it hurts me to divide it, but the thing that I realized this after the war was, you have to know what you can change and what you can't, and you have to put focus on what you can change and what you cannot. So if America is so divided, I as a patron, I as an American, as a refugee that made into this country. And you tell me, man, what other country can you come here as a refugee and be who you

are to be an entrepreneur and to be who you are, to be this leader in America when you came from absolutely nothing. You know, I slept on the dirt floor, rats in the jungle. And here I am this entrepreneur now, a leader in America. Where else can a system, a country allow you to do something like that? Let me ask you this, if we can't go back, because I want to get into some of your thoughts, some current events right now and what's going on. But so you're at Fort Bragg, you choose to go special ops. 23 years you're in, so I'm assuming first three years,

you do bootcamp, AIT, all the things, you do three years later, you join special ops. So how would happen? I went to basic airborne, I went to Ranger training. So all of the advanced infantry training, and then when I went to special operations, then that's, you know. Did you do special forces?

Special forces. Okay, and what was your, what were you in 18 delta? I was 18 bravo, started 18 Fox and then Zulu. Got it. Did you, were you a part of special ops with delta, or was it more special forces? I was in the unit for eight years.

You were in the unit for eight years, was a direct support asset to the unit, conducting the low-visor condensance. So basically, I was the guy who would go around work with DCIA. Yup, the embassies, we'll go and we'll find fix and finish the enemy abroad. What were some places you were deployed? Yemen, southern Thailand, Libya, Niger,

you name it. I mean, you know, we were everywhere during the global war. What's the craziest situation you were in, what you were in the military day can talk about? You know, every mission's crazy, Patrick, right? You know, I always lead a gunfight, they're always crazy, but that gets played out almost every day, you know, in a war zone. I want to talk about, like, okay, Celevia, Gaddafi, dictator, right?

So he brainwashed his people. You couldn't even have a Western education. And there was this, we call them sources, people that work for the Americans that provide intelligence. And he was working for us and he was a proud father. He had a beautiful daughter, she was very smart. And she wanted a Western education.

So he would secretly get her these books and have a read. And then one day the government came to their door and drugged their family out in the street, put them down in their knees. And they burned out her eyes. So those are some things that we see overseas, you know, that people will never understand. So those are crazy things that we see is that people get tortured, you know, in today's society.

People think that, you know, we live in America where everything is good and damn near, bringing us nice, but in today's world is still savage. You know, and if you don't have no law or an order and government system that's set in place like what our country is, which is the greatest country, then we will, too, be doubt. So you know, Patrick, I have a lot. You know, I just, you know, it's so, there's so much emotions tied to some of these, man. You know, when my friend got out,

he was in special apps and not only was he special apps, he was also Delta Unit 4, 8 years, same as you, and he went all over. And my orders at the time was to go to Vichenza, Italy. I was gonna go to Sears School. I was already aerosol, I was gonna air-born. I was gonna go DLI to tighten up my language because I spoke five languages at the time.

And I was gonna go Vicenza and then from there, you know, light it up and eventually go to, you know, choose to go Delta. I went a different direction. He chose that route, he took the orders, he went in. When he retired after 20 years, I said, let's meet up. We hadn't seen each other for like 15 years. I thought he was dead quite frankly. I was trying to find him everywhere.

I couldn't find him anywhere. We hadn't seen each other for like 15 years. I thought he was dead quite frankly I was trying to find him everywhere. I couldn't find him anywhere not on Facebook not on social No, where you peered out of nowhere on social we got connected and this is my guy This is the guy that you hung out with every day for two and a half years. So I said let's meet up. So we meet up in Madrid Cisco watch, you know, you will go to El classical and Ronaldo was playing messy as I let's meet up in Madrid He didn't come to the game. But he met me at Madrid. I said how you doing? And uh uh very traumatic. This guy was in this kind of a traumatic guy. He was a fun guy to be around. He was not in a good place at all. For what? I said what happened? What have

you saying can't talk about it? Would he had a drink? Then he had a second drink, three drinks. He still won't talk about it, some of the stuff that he had seen. But he was very, very emotional. He would call me regularity, same path. I don't know how to deal with this stuff right now. Took about a couple years for him to disconnect from that life. How long did it take you after your 23-year stint that you had to live a normal life? I know, you're still married, I think, right?

20 plus years, you guys were married. Yes, yes. It's pretty crazy to know that you live that life and you're still married for 20 plus years How long do they take you after that life to actually accept a civilian life? Three years that I realized I don't have to have my my bags packed in watching the news three years Three years in me now having to watch current events and worry about me being deployed.

Six years before I found calmness of the mind. Six years. Do you ever itch the desire, you know how athletes retired, they want to go back, you know how the movie Hurt Locker, he got out, he couldn't wait to get back. These stories were like, man, I Kyle, I got to get back. But I don't feel like civilian life is for me. And the wife is trying to tell you, listen, relax. Let's enjoy it.

Let's have a life together. Do you have that itch like, dude, I want to go to this freaking place because I know I can bring some value. Is that itch there to want to get deployed and get into the mixer? No. I always want to help people. And I guess that's why Palfas are rolling.

Now is I help people. And I guess that's why Paffet's a Ronin. Now I help people. My time overseas helping people, it's staying in villages and all that. I just can't physically do that anymore, you know? But I always want to help people. Was it hard to let go with the gun fights and all that? The adrenaline is, there's no drug out there. Like the adrenaline like that,

at that low of a gun fight, right? So people have a hard time disconnecting. For me, I worked hard after my time of service to disconnect and I do it through meditation and everything else. So I purposely walked down a path of peace, you know, when I got out, not a path of peace. You know, when I got out, not a lot of people do that. No, no, especially not in your world, because it's typically drugs, alcohol,

some crazy shit that they end up doing when they've seen that kind of life. Because as much as you're glad you're out, somehow your body's, that's your norm, that's your normal life that you've had. So it's very hard to adjust from that pacing to this thing being, this slow. It's going to drive you insane. Most people it's going to drive them insane. Yeah, you know, it's real funny, Patrick, when I got out, I went into the entertainment kind of a world really fat. They found me really fast because you know, I'm a knife out

of martial arts, I'm a gun fighter. So it appeals to Hollywood, you know? So they reached out to me, they wanted me to be on shows, I'll call a duty now. So it's really like a different mindset now. You know what I mean? I have to let it go sometimes. You know, like sometimes when I walk in, I'm like, okay, this is a pool door, this is a solid core door, this is my ex-errelle.

This is how many peace, I had to let those things go. Are you able to take orders from people that are not, you know, I mean, imagine taking a direction from somebody that's like, you know, 35 years old, 120 pounds and they're telling you what to do and you're just sitting there like, man, I can take your eyeballs with my pinky. No, I don't think that way. I don't think that way when I look at people. He's asking it because he's struggling. He wants to. Yeah, that's not how my brain works.

You know guys, how my brain works. How my brain works is 4.30 in the morning. I'm embracing God. I'm showing gratitude of life and the day. That's who I am today. You know, I never wanted that to be that violent in you know, in my career. I did it for compassion. I did it to free it enslaved. And as soon as that was over for me, it was my next purpose.

My next purpose is to mold Americans to, you know, law enforcement is having a hard time right now. You know, their image and their tactics. And that's why I'm teaching. I'm teaching law and buying seasons to protect themselves, you know, across America. So along with that, I had to let go of that hate. You can't be who you are if you hold on to hate, right? I don't think it's about holding on to hate.

I think it's maybe more addiction to power. When you're talking about guys that come out and they're getting violent, it's because they can, because somebody tells them something that they don't want to hear and they're like, you don't get to tell me, you know, you don't now rake me, I'm gonna show you. And 20 years of imposing your will on other people, you don't just get to turn that off.

No, and like I say, three years, it was talking to one of my friends is when you're in this special forces, when I kick open that door, when I come in, I have, you're going to feel an energy. Right. I have, you're gonna feel an energy. Right, so I don't want that energy when I live in Savannah life, right? So I have to cut it off. And a lot of guys can't cut it off when you're there. Yeah, so, so, Romanan, how did that happen

with Call of Duty? I mean, you know, how does it even feel knowing you're in a video game? Oh man, so, you know, I, at first I was in History Channel where I was filming there. So, yeah. That was a big Goldberg. Yeah, what's Bill Goldberg like?

Is he cool? Oh man. He's so cool. He's one of my friends. Goldberg Goldberg? Goldberg, the wrestler. Goldberg. Yeah, so Bill and I were two.

We were friends. The third best Jewish athlete of all time behind Sandy Kofex and Adam Sausnik. Oh, there he is. There he is. Wow. is, yeah. Wow. Yeah, so that was my first time being on the set, like, literally, that day was my first day. That's rookie day. Yeah, that's day one.

That was the second season. So we did three seasons, really popular. It got really, so it was broadcast in like 12 different countries. This is what show? Knife or death? Being the hell out of ice with knives. Robes don't stand a chance, yeah. So you're a big dude, man.

The Goldberg must be six, six. How big is this guy? He was 260 there. Yeah, he was, I mean, that guy's massive. He's like six, four. Okay. He was a defensive man in the NFL before he was arrested. That guy don't play.

But he's so intense, you know, I won't bring you to this day. So I'm here, right? So I have my notes. He's intense. I have my notes. You're literally the most intense person I've ever met in my life. And you're calling him intense. So I have my notes.

And I was seeing it. It was like 115 degrees in that hangar because they had these fire barrels. It's in the middle of the summer in Atlanta, right? So I had these fire. So I'm sitting there. I'm going to get hotter during the day, people don't know the lights that are on.

You get hotter and hotter and hotter. Bill comes in with his shirt off, his cowboy boots, you know, and he's like, it's so fucking hot in here. And he goes, I need a cooling tent, and this and that. And I'm like, I don't even know what a cooling tent is. So then he, typical Hollywood star, love me, that's what he looks at me. And he was reading his note, and then he looks at star. Love that. And he looks at me. And he was reading his note and then he looks at me.

He goes, are you fucking meditating? Because I was sitting there like this. And I said, I'm slowing down my heart rate. Not anymore bill. Right. I'm slowing down my heart rate because then it cools down my body. So I won't, you know, sweat. Right.

And so here's Bill trying to meditate. He's so funny, though. You know, that was one of my first days. He tried to meditate, you got Bill Goldberg to try to meditate with me. He tries to meditate, he's pretty cool, dude. Right, so he has his spiritual side of him. What would you see?

He is high energy. But getting back to all duty. So we are doing close quarters training in San Francisco, right? And in any word, they follow us, you know, on social media, on YouTube. So I post where I am and I post like what I'm doing, right, training. And I was training close quarters battle. And if any ward emails us and say, hey, can you fly out to LA, you know, so here we are

we're toting our guns or a quick. Can you pull that up, type in Call of duty to lamb? And then we go out there It was my wife and I and we're standing out there and we met the president right so first we met the teams and They're broken and man they're so profession. They're broken up so creative and then the president comes out and he was a fan and he Said hey man big big fan. Thank you for everything you do and goes, he talked to us for a good three minutes and he's like, how can I get you on a game? You know, I'm so, excuse me. And he goes, how can I get you on a game?

My wife is standing there. And she goes, well, if you want Ronin, he has come in as Ronin. And he goes, OK, what else? And we run our own gear. Yeah, we design. And then she's like, well, you know, if you want that, then, you know, he run our own gear. Yeah, we designed yeah, and then she's like well, you know You want that then you know he wears his own gear. He goes okay done deal. Is that your gear? That's your Basically what they do is they pluck me out just threw me in a game literally, you know, it's special force

All that right and I did a motion capture So you see there and motion capture in the studios with them You know we we recently did motion capture in the studios with them. You know, we recently did motion capture all the gun scenes and everything with them. So it's been really amazing journey. And you know what, what I take from this is that, man, you know a bunch of kids are playing my character now.

Right? That'd be wild. A bunch of kids, but you know what? You know, Bruce Lee, when he was an actor, right? He used his platform to spread about equality, right? About martial arts, educating people. And I did that the same, you know, I'm not Bruce Lee obviously, but I used my platform

to spread the word about compassion, love, you know, leadership, right? So I used that. I'm giving the tools to all these youth, right? They're such a multiple age right now and they're playing my character. So why not give them a word? Where does the character or your alter ego, Ronan, where does that come from? Because that's, what is that, the basis of that? So you know, I lived the life of Bushido, I lived the life of the way, the warrior, right?

So Bushido in Japanese is broken down, bull means to intercept the spirit, to go to war. She is the one who chooses to walk the path, the one who's strong enough to walk the path, the way, where. And dole is to take your whole life experience and to give back for the sake of humanity. Poshido, right? So I walked the path of Poshido. So let me explain what Ronin means. So back into Fruto-Stating Pears of Japan,

war-Stating Pears of Japan, you had Samurai who served the Dimeos, right? So if you were fired, you'd become Ronan the masterless. So it was very shameful, this honorable, to be the Ronan back in war-staying appears in Japan. But there were Ronans that were famous, like Miyamoto Musashi, 47 Ronans. There were stories of these Ronans that were amazing.

So where did Ronan come from? After I got out of the army, I was heavily addicted to painkillers. You know, and Patrick would tell you, man, that's a normal thing in our world. He had a similar problem. Did you know? No. Okay. Don't blame me, you know.

It was something else. It wasn't painkillers. Okay. But Patrick would tell you, like, in this yours. Okay, but, but, Patrick would tell you like, in this special operations world, we, how do you have that? Dude, we mass our pain, man. It's such a intense world, you know, that world.

Special operations world. You come back from a rotation, a combat rotation, you can't even talk to anybody about what happens. You're driving defensively on the road, and you don't even know why you're doing it because your brain is switching to that level. So I was really messed up, right? And I got out. And I was sitting in the dark room one day.

Defeated. Defeated my wife was working on the dinner. I was defeated. Caught up in painkillers. When I quit, then the voice told me get up. I got up, I had this blanket and walked around in dark house and somehow ended up in my library and I opened up this bookcase and I have books from since I was, gosh, I started reading since I was 11. I have books all around the world, too, right? And somehow I just reached in, I grabbed the book,

didn't even look, it was the book of five rings, by Mio Mottomassashi, a Ronin that was born in the late 1500s and died in 1645, after writing a book of five rings, now I'm holding in my hand. He wrote it in the Buddhist cave after meditating for three years finding his peace. And here I am holding this book in my hands and the pastor said all your love, all your emotion, everything exists, everything exists, look nowhere else but within. So legendary book by the way, it's like art of war, five rings, 40 lots of power I think talks about five rings. Yeah, it's a 33 strategies award book. Also spends a lot of time talking about that. Fascinating stuff. Would you mind

if we get some of your thoughts on what's going on? I want to kind of hear your thoughts on what's going on. So number one, let's go to page five, shipping crisis in America today. So there's a lot of talk about shipping crisis and people have different opinions on what's going on. America isn't running out of everything just because of a supply chain crisis. America's running out of everything because Americans are buying so much stuff.

This is an insider story and this story's coming from Warren's, that National Retail Federation. So Americans aren't buying everything, they can get their hands on, and they'll be buying even more of it if it weren't for those pesky supply chains, snarles, the National Retail Federation set. Those shortages seem so,

you say that word right there for a big US. A big US. You big US. You big US. That the you big US that the term Everything shortage is now being used Liberally to describe consumers frustration as they try to get goods of all sorts paper towels milk toys and more to understand the situation Consider the countries in inventory to sales ratio them this metrics track by the US Census Bureau compares How much stuff sellers have on hand compares how much stuff sellers have,

on-hand, on how much stuff consumers are buying. The ratio is at a 10-year low, which indicates that we're low on stuff. It's low because sales have gone completely nuts in the first nine months of 2021 retail sales. We're up 14.5% over the same period in 2020. And today, we have 100 ships waiting offshore at LA ports with cargo which is an examiner's story. 23 of the waiting ships are mega containers meaning they are the largest shipping vessels in the world that can hold more than a hundred or more than 10,000 20 foot containers ships must abide by a set of rules which when picking up a spot such as standby ship lanes and anchoring at two miles out from ship all this other stuff So anyways, we hear all these stories about shipping shortages You have some experience with this. What do you think is really going on here? Is it really a

Supply chain crisis or we just buying too much stuff? I definitely think it's both like you we've been doing this to ourselves for many years outsourcing Right manufacturing right bring in imports instead of pushing out esports We've been doing this to ourselves for many years, outsourcing, manufacturing, bringing in imports instead of pushing out exports. So we're relying so much on other countries. Think about what we're doing with all the products, manufacturing in China, manufacturing in South America. All of these are cheaper labor.

So businessmen is going to want to go and get. So we've been doing this for years growing a wealthy America, right independent business owners are getting more wealthy by outsourcing to Ford. So we've been doing this And this became a norm in America. We've been building this infrastructure for years relying on external imports Sure, it's trying to build that empire off a slave labor Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So So now with us relying on other countries, with COVID hitting, right? COVID obviously shut down the whole world. So now we're that backlog.

What you're saying now Patrick, is that do you think that America's overspending? Yes, I do think that too. Because we do not, I feel there's a percentage of America, a large percentage America that does not trust the administration right now. Does not trust the future of America or safety of America. So that's why they're going to stock up. They're going to stock up on water. They're going to stock up on water. What's causing the lack of trust though? What is causing the lack of trust?

I hear many different things. I'm curious what you think. Well, you know, like how, you know, deceitful the media is on certain things. Like they're saying there's no shortage, but then we go into a grocery store. They're saying there's no shortage, but then it takes us forever to buy something online.

Get against stake these days, right? So what I'm saying to you, there is a shortage. And I feel like the administration too, is kind of playing it off. As in, we heard about the imports of goods and they made a common administration, made a comment about what the reclining chairs. So you want to have a dishwasher.

Right, right. So they're kind of like pushing it out off, but America is kind of overspending. They're being kind of sending about a little bit, right? Right, so, but that's why America is overspending because they do not trust the media. But there's also a lie too, because if the reason why there aren't things to buy is because we're buying so much stuff

Then why is the economy booming? The economy's tanking so we're overspending. Why is the economy tanking? I feel that economy is tanking because we're mass reducing the American dollar, right? So inflation is going through to roof right now unemployment is going through to roof. You know, I mean We're supporting the non-working class, so that's not gonna bring back our economy. Do you guys see the county and the Central Coast County

California, can you pull that up? Central Coast County, California gas prices, I posted this yesterday, ABC, I witness news, Kyle, Texas to you, California gas prices in this county hit no. This is not an exaggeration $7.59 a gallon $7.59 a gallon premium is nearly 850 I predicted $10 gas prices are coming. I'm $2 away at this point.

That's time for anybody to just bought a Ferrari premiums through the roof. Shhh, that's right. I away at this point. That's time for anybody to just bought a Ferrari. Prains, through the rules. Shhh, that's probably about it. I walked you this morning, took me seven hours. I walked you home. I was thinking about getting a car, but not anymore. Well, that's definitely not gonna happen. Well, you brought up, there's two sides of this, because you know, you brought up the supply chain issue.

We talked about that on the last podcast. Phil Heath, do I believe you know. He said his mom worked in the supply chain. He had a good personal story, but I also think there's another side to this, which you touched on, is that in America, we buy a lot of shit, like a lot of shit. And you said that some of the happiest people you've ever seen in your day have just been the poorest people that didn't have a lot of stuff going on their life. And I think that, what I've seen is that Americans consume a lot of stuff.

I'm not saying I'm a minimalist, but I definitely gravitate towards being a minimalist, not needing the fancy stuff to fulfill your light. Like it's actually a scientifically proven to be a sugar high. Oh, I wanna get this, I wanna get this. And three days later, you're super excited to get a new pair of shoes or a new bag or new whatever. And three days later, you're super excited to get a new pair of shoes or a new bag or new whatever, and three days later scientifically your emotions or morphins.

That's why I'm going down. That's why we look at the, like Bushito, right? Masashi said, we look at the externals to allow us to feel something internally, right? And wealth is one of them, right? Materialistic items is another one. Look, that's American thing. Exactly. Okay, that's an American thing.

We're not gonna change that, okay? Well, we're not gonna, I don't know if we're gonna change the entire culture, but this is where you have to look inside yourself and look in the mirror and say, do I really need this? Is buying more stuff, really what I'm looking for in life? I get it, people need the basics, people need milk, people need gas in this case.

But all the concern is, but also the shortage is because the gas prices are going through the roof, the shortage on truck workers and the mandates. So I feel like that's, that's closing down to supply chain as well. These are two different issues here. What should you or should you say? Okay. So let's just say what you're saying is save that money. Fine. Well, I'm just saying that there's a flip side to the supply

chain stuff. It's that how much stuff do you need? We talk about their canceling Christmas. But so you're not getting 20 Christmas presents. Holy get them. That's a question to say. How rich is good? How rich is rich? Like so, so if you live in America, the reason why you love America is because a person has a freedom to choose. America was founded on four different things. Freedom to choose, freedom to buy, freedom to sell, freedom to fail, freedom to try. Buy, sell, try, fail. Go for it's capitalism. Do what you got. Do you want to buy it? Buy it. You don't want to buy it. Don't buy it. It's totally up to you? Go for its capitalism. Do what you got to do. You want to buy it? Buy it. You don't want to buy it? Don't buy it. It's totally up to you. This is not a philosophical conversation here about this.

This is about why the hell do we have this shortage? One is saying we're buying too much. The other is saying, oh, it's because the hundred ships are sitting out that we can't get it off. People don't want to come in here and work and take that stuff off. 10,000 containers that you're talking about, the biggest one. They got 23 of these ships, sort of, the biggest ships. And then you got Jen Sacky, who comes out yesterday, saying,

when asked about Biden's supply chain crisis, Sacky cracks the joke at the expense of Americans, this is a post-millennial story. She says, it was clear March of 2020 when COVID hit that the supply chain across the world had been disrupted, even as a sort of work to fight back against COVID-19 to people, it was crystal clear that the things were not improving on supply chain. People couldn't get dishwashers and furniture and treadmills delivered on time,

not to mention all sorts of other things. So why did the tragedy of the treadmills that's delayed? She talks about it and joking about it. During the pandemic, many gyms were closed, et cetera, et cetera. So, you know, this is about Discism is people are not going to get stuff on time and they're preparing everybody don't expect you give to show up on time Why is this happening? America's not going to change their habits overnight. That takes a generation or two to do

But this concern here you got a capitalistic was it custom to getting products being delivered on time? Now they're not. Yeah, this is a philosophy. This is what's management. You know, philosophically, you want to talk about minimalism, it's a different conversation. But this is what's management. Yeah, like this is, you know, this is just America. This is a global supply issue. It's not like this is immune to America. Only in America. I know having this crazy. It's almost like the entire world. I know it's crazy. It's almost like, we'll run nothing and be

happy because the entire world's been dealing with a pandemic. No, but yeah, Portland too. So listen, the LA LA in particular, there's the regulations are what are shutting down the LA right now. It's government that's causing a six-month backlog. It's not the pandemic. It's the government response to the pandemic. It's also a lack of workers we discuss, which is due to the government response to the pandemic. You know, this is, it's, it's, it's very, very, very clear. There's not a backlog in Jacksonville right now. One of the biggest ports on the East Coast is there is six month backlog. Is the supply chain broken? And in the, and it's on Gavin Newsom. It's on Gavin Newsom. It's on Bill de Blasio.

It's on Andrew Cuomo. It's on people that are in control. How is New York affecting LA? The Blasio. This is a literal nationwide logistics problem. That one. We just said it was, it's so fun.

LA is the problem. Jacksonville is fine. You can look at where the backlog is. There's a backlog in New York Harbor. There's a backlog in Elizabeth. There's a backlog. The L.A. backlog is as-9. It's like six months behind right now.

It's actually cheaper for a lot of these ships to redirect from the Pacific, go through the freaking Panama Canal and come to the East Coast. They will unload quicker than waiting in port in L.A. You know, so, freedom to try. Freedom to try, man. Listen, this is logistics. I just, this morning, there's a guy I had breakfast with

at my condo, man. The guy sells peppered farm cookies. It's incredible how much money there's in cookies, man. 398 was where the cookies started this year. They're up to 417. He sells them wholesaler. He said, it'll be $5 money in the end of the year. I mean, that doesn't seem like much. That's a 33% increase in one year, just off of shipping. 33% on cookies.

What's milk? What's things that need to be refrigerated? Cookies can stay on the shelf for two years. What are things that are perishable? I mean, it's going to go through the roof, man. We've only just begun to feel the pain. Now, I look, I'm with you. Clearly, we need our stuff in America, especially if it's staple industry, but we talked about it takes generations to fix. Well, I'll flip it on you. There's somebody named Marie Kondo, you know who that is?

Who basically said, you know, goes to people's houses and says, is this spark joy to you? And if not, get out, get rid of it. Sure. No matter what's going on with supply chain and macroeconomics and tariffs and whatever, at the end of the day this comes down to how many fucking cookies do you actually need?

How much extra stuff do you need? I got out of my mind. I'll put you on front street then. Why do you live in Boca Raton for three times the amount of money you would cost you to go live out in Coral Springs? Right? You can go west in the swamps and live for $500 if it's about efficiency. How can you not live out there? You can can like where I live? Yeah, that's

That would be exactly That would be seen as excessive that would be that's excessive how dare you I live It's it's excessive as compared to buying a single wide out in the swamps, right? Like I mean if everything is about efficiency of everything if materials Yeah, but if the world crumbled and I had to go live in a smaller place and have any money, I'd still be happy. Like, I get it, like, I'm not going to, oh my god, I have to go and move into a smaller unit. Buddy, I lived in a little shack in Dallas just to be a minimalist.

But you loved it. Not really. But I did it because I wanted to be a part of value-taming, and that's what I was willing to do, to go through the struggle in this case, I mean, not that big of a deal, but that's what I was willing to do. But a part of me, I understand, are supply chain, I get it, but crime or river, if your cookies are a dollar more, bro.

Let me ask you a question, Kai, pull up a larger, bro. Pull up the top 10 ports in the US. Pull up the top 10 ports in the USS. Pull up the top 10 ports in U.S. Top 10 ports in U.S. Yeah, so let's go through. So number one is what? You got LA is one. Okay, long, okay, got it.

So I think let me see the numbers right there. 7,500 acres, 11,000, 18,000 of vessels, 170 MLTX revenues, tons, $276 billion of value, leading trading partners, China, Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, 1.6 million. value, leading trading partners, China, Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, 1.6 million. They're okay, keep going to the next one. It's our gate to the West. Yep, Long Beach. Long Beach is next, 370,

that's okay, go to next, New York and New Jersey is third. Got it, that's also China, India, Germany, then it's Georgia, ports of Ann and Brussels, okay. Well, we'll just so you know guys, the number three, New York and New Jersey, that's actually three separate ports. There's port Newark, port Elizabeth, and then there's port of Manhattan, okay? The New York Naval Art, which is actually in Brooklyn. Got it. So you got Georgia ports, Seattle to coma ports, Georgia Gets, automobiles, heavy machinery, agricultural products,

Deepwater terminals, gardeners, okay, got it. So that's coming from where? Seminoids, okay. So then we have Seattle Tacoma ports, oil seats, grains, machinery, computers. Then you got six port metro Vancouver, go to the next one. It's basically Seattle. Yep, Virginia is next.

Then we have Houston is eighth, go to nine and 10, South Carolina, Oakland. Oakland is willing to help LA, by the way, because right now, apparently, Oakland is not that busy. So, Oakland's sending their workers right now to LA to help out with the shortage that's going on. Yeah. So listen, there's two conversations here with what you're saying versus what's going

on. One, the issue at hand is what? We have all these ships and they're waiting. And we're going to get that car go out because people are running businesses and if they don't get it, and some of the stuff that we talk about sits there, you may not even be perishable, can you sell it,

can you not sell it, that's a big problem, right? Two is a mindset about saving money, which that goes to a conversation of America being one of the worst savers in the world. You know, we're overspenders, we're constantly financing everything, which I don't disagree there either. We want one time to, I was at an island, I don't know where this was, Barbados, I think I was at.

So, the drivers taken me and we got 40 people in this bus. He's driving me. I said, so what do you do for him? And he says, I'm the mayor. I said, you know, they call you the mayor, that's your nickname. He says, no, I'm the mayor. I said, no, I'm serious. He says, I'm the mayor of this town. You're not the mayor of this town. It you to me. That's your nickname. He says, no, I'm the mayor. I said, I'm serious. He says, I'm the mayor of this town.

You're not the mayor of this town. He said, Google me. He says, because I'm like, say, I'm like, come up, right? You, I said, let me see your license as a driver. He gives me like, Google, I'm like, mayor of this city. So you the frickin mayor? He said, I'm the mayor. He says, that's frickin sick.

Good for you, mayor. So we're driving. We're having a good time. He's telling these stories. I said, so tell me how economy works here If you want to buy a house he says you see that house right there. That was my house I said what'd you pay for that? He said I paid 80,000 dollars for that house some small number not a big number I said so when he when it comes on to financing how do you finance that thing? He says oh there's one thing

We don't do you we don't do finance and care. I just how do you buy that house? He says you have to have cash If you don't have cash you don't buy that house cure. I said, how do you buy that house? He said, you have to have cash. If you don't have cash, you don't buy that house. What city is this? This is Barbados. Some weird place. I was out with it. Something Dave Ramsey fantasy land.

No, yeah, but so I said, Jen would remember this. So I said, okay. So I said, so you need to tell me anybody that buys a house, your buys cash, you said, anybody that buys a house here, you buy cash. If you rent, you rent, if you buy, you buy. So that's the extreme of the complete opposite side. You have to have a, you want to buy a million dollar house?, you buy a cash. If you rent, you rent, if you buy, you buy. So that's the extreme of the complete opposite side.

You have to have a, you wanna buy a million dollar house? You got a buy cash. You wanna buy 600,000 dollar house? You got a buy cash. So now you're not happy about that part because to you it's like, wait a minute, we need financing, right? Well, to that country, financing and being able to go

finance to a million dollar loan and only put 10% down, which is 100 grand. And you live in a million dollar home where you're financing nine hundred thousand dollars making a fifty two hundred dollar mortgage payment per month You're being lit aggressive. I think that part needs to be a balance when the no income no asset loans We had and people were financing a hundred percent we finance 98 percent that was aggressive So I'm kind of with you on a little bit more of putting up cash to buy a house, a little bit more of less credit cards, everything being debt, more buying stuff that you can afford with your cash. But at the same time, that's philosophy.

This is reality that's going on today. And they got addresses. They don't have a lot of time to address this. That's a long-term fix. We need a quick short-term fix right now. Being positive, don't you think that's something that will get fixed over time? I get it, that's an issue right now today, but don't you think they're active,

I'm not even being political here. Don't you think that the people in charge are actually trying to figure it out? I don't know if that's true. Do you think they're trying to part of the sabotage it? Part of the build back better agenda is, yeah. There's some odd, there's some odd sabotage. So they want sabotage.

No, yes. I'll just say yes. Who wants to sabotage? It's a time. I think there's a global community. I think that there is a push. So we minimize our wealth. And it's a wealth distribution.

I don't disagree with that. So if they're able to control the supply chain, we can't buy and continue to, you know, and they're trying to save the earth, right, with the climate change. By keeping these ships out that burn, really is a gallons of diesel. Well, not making, not running these factories

to keep on producing our materialistic goods, right? I think that there's a lot of, a lot of what we've dealt with in the pandemic is some sort of long play into climate change agenda. Well, I want to talk about this because my grandfather, right, fought over two years. So he always told me, hey, you can't buy, you can't buy it. Unless you could pay cash for it like that kind of attitude.

Yeah, mine too. So where did that mindset change? Because if you look at the Americans that came out of the depression, that error, that they grew up in that error, they're all about minimal, right, living. So I think that once America goes through this, just a tip of iceberg, we're going to go back to that same methodology. I can actually answer that question when it changed.

1978, the Community Reinvestment Act, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, started student loans, government backed housing. That's what started the free credit spigot and it's only gotten worse in there. All right. Well credit cards, it came before that. Well diners card, diners clubs. All diners clubs.

Exactly. But what you had to do to get a credit card back in the day was insane. The credit, you want to talk about income inequality in the world, credit score. Nobody ever talks about this ever. You've never seen anybody march against credit, right? Isn't that crazy? Nobody's ever marched against Visa. Nobody nobody ever talks about this ever. You've never seen anybody march against credit, right?

Isn't that crazy? Nobody's ever marched against Visa. Nobody's ever marched against Mastercard. There's never been a occupied discover. Credit score is the largest wealth disparity in the world. The wealthier you are, the more access the funds you have. If you're not wealthier, if you've struggled and you need the money, they won't give it to you.

But, you know, listen, part of that also, it's really, really genius. It's really genius why they went to education first, especially when you look at the fact that they got rid of scores to get into higher education. Now that there's no testing, and a lot of high schools are getting rid of the SAT, higher education is not about intellect anymore. It's 100% about obedience.

And the longer you go in education, the more you're willing to put up with. The it's more of an obedience test. If you get your PhD with a state school, you may not have ever been in the top echelon of your class. You just stayed in school. Now think of the brilliance of that. The brilliance of having people literally pay to do work Instead of getting paid to do work for 10 years and our society looks at them as if they're the valiant

Our society looks at a trucker a CDL about to make 250 grand this year as if he gave up on life He looks at somebody that enlisted in military is like last ditch, right? But somebody that doesn't earn anything that pays money to do work, there's somebody noble. They get a name, they're a doctor, they're a piano. Well, there's a flip side to the story is that they actually have to enter the working world at age 35 and then they get paid hopefully a quarter million dollars, half a million dollars. How's that working out because they- How's that working out because- people with masters and basket weaving? Well, obviously some people don't think ahead of the ROI of what you're going to go to school for. Clearly. But there's, I believe there's a longer strategy in place.

I think there's two things. I think there's two things. I think there's those who maybe are evil motivations that they have. Let's just say there's a group like that. I think it's a very small community. I don't think so. It's a big of a community. It's a small community, but they got a lot of power.

Yeah, you know, I'm not disagreeing. I'm just telling you, it's a very small community that is actually trying to do that, to ruin the Western, Westernized philosophy, capitalism, the rich, all that other stuff. I think there's a flip side of it, where sometimes you do something in your life, and you didn't count all the possibilities

of negative things that could happen to you, you're gonna pay some consequences, suffer some consequences. And that's what's happening right now. Today's a byproduct of bad policies. Today's a bad, bad, uh, byproduct of, uh, you know, falling for the trap of let's keep giving people free money. Today's a byproduct of getting people not to go to work and say, no, they need three more

months, they need six more months, keep sending them money, keep sending them money. We're talking about this right now and our transportation is our at home. Yeah, two two month, uh, uh, paternity leave, paternity leave, two month paternity leave, uh, which, which, anyways, two month paternity leave, uh, is what they're going through. While we're just having babies, you take paternity leave, then the day I had it, I was waking. So, but that's a different story. I don't have the luxury being an educated smart guy like Pete, you know, I, I don't have the fancy degree. Yeah, it's very, very, very, I don't have the luxury being an educated smart guy like Pete, you know, I don't have the fancy degree. Sure.

I'm very sure. I don't have that luxury. Anyways, going back to it, byproduct, bad policies, manipulators beyond closed doors, sure, small community. Bad policies would produce this kind of a environment that we currently have. I don't hate the manipulators, Pat. I gotta be honest. That's their job. That's what they want to do, right? This is they want to take over the world. They want fair. Okay. That's what they wanna do, right? This is, they wanna take over the world, they want fair. Okay, that's what they want.

What I, who I actually hate the strong word, who I really blame, I blame the useful idiot. I blame the person that goes along with the manipulators because they just wanna fit in. They don't actually look into anything, they don't look at anything other than a completely superficial understanding of what's happening And they want to tweet something so their favorite celebrity retweets them

They want they want to put social pressure on a nurse that she has to choose a single mother nurse has to choose between Putting something in her body that she doesn't want or losing her job and not being able to feed her kid the people that are Pressuring her right into doing the quote unquote right thing those are the people I can't stand not the manipulators at the top because you're right It's very very very fuelable, but they they they manipulate the masses and to be these Yeah, let's talk about that. What just happened right now with the potential exodus of Navy seals Brings backlash. I want to read this to you especially you being in that world yourself and want to get your thoughts on this so Potential Exodus of Navy SEALS brings backlash on vaccine mandates.

This is a center square story. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced in August that with Biden's approval that all US service members must receive a COVID-19 vaccine shot. The decision came after the Pfizer vaccine received full approval from the US FDA. That mandate though leaves many US troops facing a tough personal decision.

It has been reported that hundreds of Navy SE Navy seals have been told they will not be deployed if they will not receive the vaccine and will no longer be able to serve as the Navy seal. We generally have about 2,500 Navy seals said Robert O'Neill, a former new US Navy seal who claims to have killed the Osama bin Laden. It takes time to get to certain levels. Hundreds are leaving because of this nonsense. And you said this is happening right now with SWAT as well. What are your thoughts about this too?

I mean, the military, unfortunately, when you started to don't align your uncle Sam's, right? So you're gonna have to listen to the orders of your superior officers and these superior officers that you're serving under is gonna listen to the orders that the four star generals that are underneath the politicians. So we don't have those luxuries in the military, but for the special operations guys to be

mandated, look guys, it takes a lot of money to train with us. For me, they spend over a million dollars training with us. In our experience level, it takes a long time to grow one of us. It's not like you graduate to training and you get to the teams, you're proficient, right? You get to the teams eight years into the teams, maybe you're proficient, right? And you get more training as you go.

So what I'm saying to you, if these are senior members of the Navy, of the teams, and when I say Navy SEALs, this is so calm, special operations command all together, right? So they're mandating all of these mandates that you're going to have to get the vaccination. But guys are getting out. They're not re-unless thing, they're getting out, they're turning in their paperwork, they're getting this honorable discharge. Are you hearing these stories because is it just a couple guys writing about it?

Are you hearing about this actually taking place right now, what guys are leaving? Oh, I know some guys that are doing it. I'm into that world, you know, and not just the military. I cross train, I teach SWAT teams, I teach major police departments all through the United States. I've been doing it for six years. And day two are getting out. These major cities, like, come on, Chicago, one of the dangerous cities in the United States.

I have some friends that are getting out. They're taking unpaid leave because they're not gonna do this. And they're all leaving because they don't wanna take the job. They don't wanna take the job. And it blows going to do this. And they're all leaving because they don't want to take the job. They don't want to take the job, and it blows down to this guys. They don't trust the administration. I mean, if there's another maybe administration

that's not so deceiving, maybe to their people, think about Afghanistan, think about all the borders, all this stuff, right? People. Right, so many fronts that we're looking at lies and then you know uh... making fun of you know our supply chain just blowing out so that's why they're building this uh... group of on the americans if don't trust the administration

well you told the story i think you said it on rogan where when you join the army like you had no choice, like you went in... 11 shots. Yeah. They got you. Yeah. But you didn't have a choice in that matter, right? No choice. So, how does it work in the military and the Navy sales when the army that, at some point,

you do get a choice? No. Okay, you don't get it. So, you have to do it. That's why they're getting... That's why, you know, so when we're getting disarming with this charge there, they're not being... They're being punished. That's the part that's... They're getting, that's why, you know, so when we're getting disarmered with discharge, they're not being, they're being punished. That's the part that's, they're being punished.

Disarmerable. That's like you're getting fired. Like you're fired. That's like, you get fired. Don't you want as many, yeah. That's like these seals as possible. Well, you want them. Like don't we want them?

You want as many warriors protecting our country. But, you know, unless you don't want, unless you're not actually trying to protect the country. And you want some highly trained individuals protecting our countries in an unconventional war that's highly trained in unconventional war. So what I'm saying is, we fought these wars overseas to protect our homeland. You know, don't let them throw the mask on saying, oh, we were there to kill this guy. Yeah, that was a mission.

But we were there to stabilize the region because that is a natural resources. That's why airbys trying to flock to the Middle East to control it because he who controls the Middle East, control the natural resources will become a superpower. The gateway to the East, the North, the South. What were thoughts on, obviously, the exit in itself was a disaster leaving Afghanistan. Look, man, look, look. But getting out, look, I'm not going to lie to you know, Afghanistan was a long drawn out war.

America, we dumped trillions, trillions of dollars and just, just not if Afghanistan, but Iraq, the Philippines, the war in Africa, the war in the middle. You know, I mean, you guys are not hearing the wars that were fighting these secret wars, right? So imagine that being dumped. So we needed to get out of there. But man, any military guy would tell you there's a plan withdrawal. Even if an ambush, a raid, anything so simplistic like that.

But imagine you've been fighting a war for 20 years. We owned that region. We militarily owned that region. And when we started collapsing our forces in, did you know that the Taliban took 90% of that country already when they are getting the intelligence and they're saying, oh, we won't collapse. They already knew it's going to collapse. Who do you put that on? Meaning, is it the generals? Is it actually Biden? Was it the

agreement that Trump did with the generals? Is it actually Biden? Was it the agreement that Trump did with the Taliban? You know, earlier, I want to let you know how the the the the rank structure works. Right? The president is the word buck stocks, but he has his military advisors. The military visors advise him on the tactics and to strategy on how to withdraw. It's up to you the president. He will listen to it. You know, so I wasn't there. I don't know what conversations are being held, but I'm telling you when I saw how things unfold on, I don't know, on a public television, right?

I could tell you, I can war game it from there. You should have closed down all the air bases and go down condensed only one air base. We had boggled, we had all these other air bases. Why are you going to, why are you going to condense all your forces in one area? We know that the Taliban's can control that area. So what I'm saying to you is there was a strategy, just like the strategy in war and withdrawal, there was no strategy in this withdrawal and we lost

our footing in one of the most important regions in the world for America, for not only our safety, but for the growth of America. Right? Economically. We left it. And then now we're legitimizing a the terrorists organization. We're about to finance them. We're going to finance. We're legitimize. We're allowing them to enter our country. You know, so for me, look, I'm not a politician, man. Do you feel betrayed at all as a as a service member? When you leave our troops, when you leave our troops to die, when you You know, gosh, man, I've been in these countries. I worked at Singleton's, you know, I couldn't imagine being left overseas, serving my country under the orders that you gave me.

You're going to leave us. And that's not the first time this administration did. We did in Libya. When the annex got attacked and the seals and the CIA guys got drug out in the streets, we left them. We left them. We left them. Right?

Hillary. We left them. So this administration is showing that kind of same lack of support for our military, who's ordered to go and fight for the home, for the safety of the homeland. And what about the border patrol who's ordered to protect our borders is now being scrutinized, right? Judged off of a photo, off of racism,

everything is racism. You're gonna throw it out of your face. You know, you gotta look at the bigger picture here, right? The bigger picture is safety in our country and the growth of our country and how are we going to sustain, you know, to be a superpower. Because I tell you, man, there's a lot of countries in this world that wants to take us down. In our military, there's only one that's fighting overseas to safeguard our country. And that too, you know, is being taken away.

To who would you put at the top when you said there's a lot of countries that want to take us down? Who's at the top? Is China at the top? China's always been at the top. Patrick? Has always been at the top. China, you know, people say you think we're going to go to war, China.

If you all say that to me. China, China, you know, people say, you think we're gonna go over China? If you all said it to me. And said, you know, first of all, what does modern day warfare look like to you? That China's been war. Do you think is propaganda? Yes, do you think that is cyber warfare? Yes, do you think is manipulation social media?

Yes. Try and see. Call me. So we're ready at war. All right. economy. So we're ready at war. Right. So don't judge war as troops on the ground. Right. Hot war. Right. So once you own infrastructure, you own supplies and how can we even go to war? We can't even we can't even fill up our tanks and jets because we're buying our gases and oil from where our enemies. We're all part tanks and jets because we're buying our gases, an oil from where... Russian release, yeah.

Our enemies. We're making our enemies stronger. That's what we're doing. And us losing Afghanistan and now China moving in, you don't think they have the energy supply needs in Northern Afghanistan supply their China? There's interest there. And they'll go to war for it. And let me ask you this, so Taiwan.

That's our allies, right? So we left our allies in Afghanistan, right? We left India now surrounded geographically by the Middle East. Now they're in a state of deficit, right? So now, who's going to protect our borders now? Because we don't have eyes and ears in the Middle East anymore. You know, Afghanistan was a hub that we used to get eyes and ears into Middle East so we can flex where we needed

to, that we can control the region, stabilize the region. Now you have a country that's ran by terrorists and it's known to train terrorists in that country. And now they're the richest, probably one of the richest countries. Kai, can you, there's two things I want to get feedback from you on. That was powerful on the exchange there. One, with the time that we have left,

we've got 18 minutes left. I want to get your thoughts on Barry Weiss to Stelter. We'll cover that. I want to talk about the reeducation camps. And then there's a story that just came up about Joe Manchin. I don't know if you saw Joe Manchin's story that came up. Colin Powell will address that before we wrap up. Matter of fact, let's just do Colin Powell right now. Page eight. And then I'll go to the other two stories. Colin Powell, first Black U.S. Secretary of State, dies of COVID-19 implications, and it can't serve battle.

This is CNN's story, and he was fully vaccinated. First Black U.S. Secretary, leadership and several Republican administrations helped shape American foreign policies, and the last years of the 20th century, and the early years of 21st century has died complications of COVID. It was 84 years old. And Donald Trump wrote to his supporters, wonderful to see Colin Powell, who made big mistakes on Iraq and famously so-called weapons of mass destruction, be treated and death so beautifully by the fake news media. Hope that happens to me someday. He was a classic rhino. If even that, always being the first

to attack other Republicans, he made plenty of mistakes, but anyway, may he rest in peace. President Bush said he was a great public servant starting with his time as a soldier during Vietnam. He was such a favorite of presidents that he earned the presidential medal of freedom twice. Two thoughts. What a great general. What a great American, Lucy, served this country. He rose up to be an amazing general. I didn't serve underneath him.

I was in high school. I read books on, you know, the leadership that he gave to our armed forces. So I think he's a great American. What I think about Trump's statement, you know, man, politics is ugly. It's so ugly. And unfortunately, some people can't control, you know, their emotions online. But do I support that statement? No, obviously, I don't support.

I love what Colin Pollock did for our country. And I don't support that statement? No, obviously I don't support. I love what Colin Pollock did for our country, and I don't support that statement, but I will tell you that wars are very political and lies and deceptions are made for to employ soldiers overseas. So what I'm saying is politics can get ugly, but I do not support that message that Trump said to the general Adam. Yeah, I think Colin Powell is one of those people whether you're on the left or the right. I'm sure that there's going to be people that disagree, but you look at him and just say, wow, like what an admirable man. Sure, he didn't get everything right. And I know that towards the I sure, he didn't get everything right. And I know that towards the end,

he definitely didn't align themselves with the Republican Party, especially Trump. So shocker alert, Trump's talking crap about a dead general. I don't think anyone didn't see that one coming. But as an American, I think you can always look at Colin Powell and say, that's what America is about. He came from a family of immigrants like yourself, like yourself, served in the army, a presidential, a medal of freedom, twice, and may he rest in peace?

Yeah, I don't think a lot of people know his story. Do you talk about dealing with your racism. Nobody talked to him at West Point for four years. He was in West Point, nobody spoke to him for four years. Not a word, not a single word until his graduation. He didn't quit, he didn't turn coat, he didn't say screw this, I would have been out, Listen to hell with this. Nobody spoke to the man.

They didn't look at him for his first year. And he stuck through it. I had lunch with him once in an incredibly powerful, powerful, powerful figure. Disagreed with foreign policy. I hate the Bush doctrine. I don't think we should have been in these places. I think we're just now seeing the fallout of the Bush doctrine. I think it was a post in these places. I think we're just now seeing the fallout of the Bush doctor.

I think it was a post cold war trying that Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, I can write a whole book on how these guys were evil in my eyes. And I think H.L. Mankin said that war is the logical conclusion of politics. And guys like Cheney and Rumsfeld never had to go overseas, but they sent a lot of people over there.

And I can't stand that. Colin Powell said to me, I met him, I was playing with the Nourk Bears at the end of my mindly career and he goes, you know, when you're, when your career is done, you should, you should go into the service. And I was like, man, I don't, I don't know if that's what I'm doing. He goes, that's a shame we can use guys like you. And that was a really, really powerful thing. I, it's to this day, my biggest single regret is that when baseball was already going immediately into the service?

How old are you right now? 35. It's not too late, Rod. I got three years. I don't know if I can run the miles though. That would be the struggle. But hey, look, they keep lowering the standards. I don't know.

Maybe I can identify as a tree and not have to run it all. I don't know. We'll see what happens. May the man rest in peace. And a a chance to meet with them or speak with them or have any interactions with them. And real quick, Pat, before we move on, this should put to rest that whole conversation that we had three podcasts ago about disandist running or not. If that that's not presidential, you know, to attack a guy who served as country. I'm not a fan of that.

I don't know why I mean, that's, I don't know why I mean, that's not presidential. It's like the least breaking news ever. This is very, it's not the point. I'm not a fan of that, but at the flip side, he's right, politics is ugly and dirty. You know, God, when Trump dies, what are things that left's gonna say when he dies?

What do you think are we gonna say? Adam or a man? Yeah, okay, so when that stays place. He's not doing anything to change it. Yeah, no, he's not doing anything to change it, but at the same time, like this comment, McCain comment, these are not comments that are, what part of that comment gets support though?

Like if you're trying to flip anybody, okay, tell me how that flip anybody. It's too petty for they say there's Perfect people right there's two people like that minus a handful of people, but the unborn and the dead Man, just leave those two alone. It's dead. They can't do nothing. They can argue with you The argument is over with move on so anyways, it is what it is made a man rest in peace Let's go to the final couple stories that we have here America's re-education camps. this is a real clear policy story.

We rightly criticize and condemn China for sending more than 1 million eugurs, Muslims, two reeducation camps, but we have our own milder version of reeducation camps that indoctrinate all for a supposed good evolved cause. We call our reeducation camps public schools. Here's one example of it for Evanston right outside of Chicago of what first and second graders are now taught in school. This is not a one-off or a rogue teacher. This is the curriculum endorsed by the superintendent

and school board. This is curriculum. This is the curriculum for teaching seven year olds. It covers more than 7,000 kid and gardeners through eight great attending 15 school. When Evanston and school across the country are doing is unequivocally misguided. It is dangerous.

It is divisive. It hinders not help. Inclusion, healing, progress, community, and self-worth. What do you say about these reeducation camps? You got some thoughts yesterday. I'd love to audience to hear it. You know, guys, look, you know, I know about the reeducation camps, right?

My uncle's was part of the reeducation camps. I interview my uncle, grown up. It's about changing your mind, right? It's about brainwashing you to a whatever ideology they're trying to... So, yes, I do believe in the reeducation camps is our schools, they're targeting our youth, and they're targeting our youth with the critical race theories, right? Blaming a certain race for everything. What do you think is going to happen, man?

When these kids grow up, what do you think it's going to be a more racist world, or do you think it's going to be a more civilized world when we're introducing critical race theories into, you know, education? Well, critical theory comes from the Frankfurt School. It's Marxist and its origins, and it's meant to be divisive. Right. It's an actual, you talked about modern warfare.

This is psychological warfare. This is propaganda. This is indoctrinating and entire generation believing that there are good and evil based on immutable characteristics. Things that you cannot change about yourself. You are born as one of the good guys or you're born one of the bad guys. And the only way to help the good guys if you're a bad guy is to completely seed any personal agency. Yeah. So, anybody who doesn't know about the Frankfurt School and anybody that doesn't know about critical race theory,

I really, really, really encourage you to start reading up as much as you possibly can. And if you wanna see what indoctrination looks like, look up, what was it Kyla I sent you? My China, my life as a Communist Party member. I can't, it's from five years ago, I can't believe this is up. There's two different videos. It's my life as a communist party member? I can't, it's from five years ago, I can't believe this is up. There's two different videos. It's my life as a communist party member.

Look at like two minutes in. And then the other one is, I don't want free media. And it's actual Chinese communist members talking about why you don't need free media. And why life without free thought is actually beneficial to the collective. It's fascinating, fascinating to watch if you guys have ever seen this stuff. And it's, isn't it interesting though that they want public school in our country,

that they want public school to essentially extend into people's mid-twenties now? Public school, free college, free community college, free college. Let's talk about those free colleges. China funds our major universities. They've been doing this for a while. So along with them funding our major universities, don't you think they inject an idea into these universities with the professors? Because they're funding it, right? So they're funding the curriculum. So they have a say in this. So think about it, like 70s, right? So let's say the post-Vietnam war, hippie air, right? Think about that.

So now they're injecting a communist ideology, where are these youth now? There are politicians. There are leaders in America. John Kerry, right? So now they have this communist ideology ideology who has embedded them in college. Now we're just embedding in elementary school at a very vulnerable state in their subconscious mind, because they're gonna take things in the way it is. They don't have that analytical mind

to decide what is right or wrong yet. Build the Blasio's parents, fought and funded the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. And then this guy became mayor of New York City. His parents helped finance, and they were part of the consider like a chagavera type for the communist Sandinistas overthrowing Nicaragua. Now this guy ran the most important city in America.

I mean, it's not what you're saying to people sounds like crazy right-wing conspiracy theory. They're like this is insane. This is the 30 nobody has a 30-year plan There's a 30-year plan is a 50-year plan is playing out in front of people And they they just refuse at any point to to connect very obvious dots You know, and it becomes incredibly frustrating for the other side because at some point like you and I Patrick is the same way You have natural Procluding Patrick always talks about being a synergist bring people together make the argument. I'm kind of at the point where I you know what Sink or swim

You know the information's out there Read it or don't I don't care. I tried Now it's time to move on That's kind of what I'm at I fall more into the catalyst category than the synergist, but I have nothing but respect for the synergist. You guys have the patience that I just don't have. So I don't know, like the information is out there. Well, I want to talk about this before we run our time, Patrick,

because you know, they made the Chinese Rambo. Yeah. Right? So let me explain this to you. When I was young, I had a poster of Rambo You know you're right and I had a poster of Arnold Schwarzenegger, right? And these were my Influence that's what made me who I was today commandos special ops, but right now they made a a Chinese Rambo look guys if you guys view this he's holding the Chinese flag as he's

coming in on a raid, right? It's very propaganda. So what I'm saying to you is this man, that Chinese pride is growing. They have the strongest, they have the strongest present in the last 50 years. China pride is through the roof right now. Look at where we are. We're protesting jokes outside. Go back to that article you were on, the business and set articles. So here's a Chinese propaganda film about the defeat of the US army set to become the country's highest-grossing film ever.

The battle at Lake Changjin has made $769 million in since the release in China on September 30th. In the state-funded movie Outgun Chinese Troops beat their US foes during the Korean War Battle Chinese Box, Tennis Box Offices, the biggest in the world, meaning this film is also the biggest in the world. John Cena probably starred in it. He's probably crying. If you're China, why wouldn't you do this?

Meaning why wouldn't you do a Rambo? Why wouldn't you do a Rocky? Why wouldn't you do the top debate? That's not the debate. The debate is we did that in the 80s, right? Rocky versus Russia. Rocky, I mean Rambo versus Russians of it. No, we did it and what did it build? It built our culture exactly pride in our people. Of course, but what I'm saying to debate is now is that

China is doing that. So what I'm saying is they have You know a present that's very effective right now. They're taking a position or playbook national pride Just going on. So what I'm saying is that country is growing In ideology, right? And it's infectious throughout the world because now they're employing soldiers, right? They have their first soldiers, I read somewhere, China has their first soldiers for deployed now to hold ground in certain regions. Never done. China and Russia... I saw that in the circle of the globe. You saw that, the missiles, right? So, these missiles are so dangerous because they're subsonic missiles that can, dude,

they can hug the terrain of the earth. Let me explain to you what that means. It's almost impossible to pick up radar-wise, right? When we go in on the infiltration, we would, we would, we call it MAPDIR if we get low on the radar and we'll just, you know, basically follow the terrain. It's almost and can't pick us up. What they have is this

capability now. Sub-sonic missiles. You know what I mean? And China has that. And the American military have that too? I don't, you know, I can't talk too much about what the military has, but we have some, but they have some advanced technology now, and they have the technology that made us who we were. Drones. We left it all. There was an episode on Rogan where he had this CIA guy, Mike Baker. It was like right, literally right after you were on, and this is some of the stuff they were discussing.

I don't know if you saw that. We left our weapons in Afghanistan. So now, think about China Owens again, I think, because they're working with the Taliban now, right? They own Pakistan. There's a road from China through Pakistan to in Afghanistan. And now they have a direct route into Kabul, which will open up the corridor into the Middle East where we have no eyes and ears on anymore.

And they're building a supply chain all the way to the tip of Africa. And not to say that Iran with their nuclear weapons and in their hate towards Americans, I mean they openly said it. Two, before I literally go kill myself, Can we maybe get a little silver lining from all this? I mean, you're literally the most intense guy I've ever met. But how do you stay positive? What do you look at? What are your outlets that you say in life's good?

I think instead of wrapping out of that way with the two minutes that we have, because we may, I have a mastermind right now. I have to be right on time with this that we're doing. To this has been great. I wish we had two more hours, really enjoy the conversation. I think we have some conversations we'll have off

the podcast that we can have some follow-up conversations together, your energy, your spirit fits the culture here, what we're doing, man, just love what you stand for, love what you got going on. I think two hours is not enough, but unfortunately, that's the only time that we have here today. Gang, if you enjoyed this podcast, give it a thumbs up.

We are 800 subs away from 100,000 subs. Look at us. This last week's been an explosive week for the podcast. I think it was the biggest week we had in subs, and we will have the hundredth episode that won't be this week but it'll be next week and we will not be yes. I'll answer it real quick, 10 seconds. The silver lining is we got Manuel in the fight. We got these guys. That's the silver lining. It ain't over. And we got a guy that takes Uber brother. It's very feel like it's very very safe. So Adam, everything's going to be all right.

I hope so. I mean, seriously. You don't have anything to worry about as long as Uber and Lyft is here. It's going to be all right. So Gank, thank you for tuning in too. Thank you for tuning in as well. Take care everybody.

We'll see you next Tuesday. Have a great weekend. Bye bye, bye, bye, bye.