PBD Podcast - Tucker & Ted Cruz, Israel TARGETS Fordow, Ilhan Omar Sparks OUTRAGE w/ Nancy Mace | PBD Podcast | Ep. 604

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth & Vincent Oshana are joined by Representative Nancy Mace break down the explosive showdown between Tucker Carlson and Senator Ted Cruz over U.S. policy on Iran, Israel’s latest military movement targeting Iran’s Fordow nuclear site and what it means for the region, and Congresswoman Ilhan Omar stirs major backlash over her controversial anti-American comments.------👔 THE VT GENTLEMAN'S COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/4kPjSmM🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/41rtEV4⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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I think I've ever said this before Okay folks, so we got a very interesting podcast here today. Guest is going to join us. She landed already, I believe she'll be here within 45 minutes and she'll join us. She asked a very complicated question from Tim Walz, the former VP presidential candidate. And Tim Walz, I mean you don't ask questions like that from the VP. She asked him, Rob, can you play this clip up, Tim Waltz? Just right off the bat, I just wanted to let you know who the guest is that's gonna be here.

Maybe you recognize her, stick around, we're gonna hit some stories before we get to that. Go ahead, Rob. So this is the question she asked, very technical, go ahead. Okay, what is a woman? What is a woman is the question. I'm not sure I understand the question here You can pause it. So I mean, I mean look Can you imagine that we're living in a time that a guy that's?

Asked to be the VP can't answer basic question like he's a knucklehead. No, he said he's not he said it He's a knucklehead. We're gonna have a word is won't he won't answer. Yeah, because he's handcuffed Why all of those people voters that he's beholden to that's a problem by the way if you guys are wondering why Adam is not here Some people are saying he's at an insurance conference some are saying he's hanging out with a pack who the hell knows where he's at But you know Adams out there hanging out with his friends. And hiding phone numbers. Yeah, it is what it is. Okay, yeah, so let me cover with you what stories we're gonna be going through today.

Tucker and Ted Cruz did an incredible podcast. Phenomenal, if you haven't seen it, you gotta watch it. It's fantastic. UFC 404. Thank you, Tom. It was fantastic, it's awesome. I thought it was great, both arguments. It was a good fight, but it was respectful from both sides. Both heavyweights, maybe super heavyweights.

Actually no, it is the super heavyweight matchup. It was great, I really enjoyed watching it. I'm glad Tucker and Ted were willing to have that conversation. We're going to talk about it because a lot of things were said. He asked some questions about what is the population of Iran and then you're taking money from AIPAC, all these things. We'll cover some of that stuff. But a few stories that came out.

Iran will never surrender. Israel made a huge mistake, says country supreme leader Ayatollah al-Khamenei. He says that and then at the same time you see Reza Pahlavi, the exiled prince. He's everywhere. Stories about him going back to Iran. There's even a video of him in Israel going there with the Yamaka against the wall. So they say when that happens, like you're around the corner of getting the job, so we're going to show that.

The betting odds, you got to trust Vegas because Vegas doesn't like to lose money. Betting odds, Iran's leader, Khomeini, is ousted this year, just skyrocketed. So for some of you guys that are gamblers, you may want to watch this one here. We'll get to that here in a minute. Israel, we are hitting Fordow with or without U.S. Bunker busters. That story came out, we'll show you that. Trump privately approved attack plans for Iran, but has withheld final order.

This is a Wall Street Journal story. Trump says Iran's supreme leader is an easy target, saying, hey, if we want to take you out, we can take you out. Relax. We know exactly where you are. Pump the brakes. If you want to negotiate, this is your last chance. That is the position he has.

Did you see what Trump said yesterday after Tucker called him? He claims Tucker called him. Did you see that? Yeah. Did you see it? I didn't see the clip. I didn't. Oh, no, they have to show it to you. It's very interesting what he says. okay, very interesting what he says I I think it's important for everybody see Trump's reaction to this

Trump reveals us knows yeah, we covered that former CNN star slammed for vile jokes about Trump's dead ex-wife I mean you got to realize how nasty you got to get to get to those types of places Massey Democrats move to block us strikes on Iran. That's Politico. Ilan Omar claims US turning into one of the worst countries in the world. Listen, Leave, I would add another word to it, but I wanna be respectful, Leave. There was a famous poet that, I'm trying to remember

his name, he had this song called Move, Get Out the Way. You know what I'm saying? It was like a song. I mean. It was French. It was. Yeah, that like a song. I mean. It's French. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, it's French.

Incredible poet, man. So San Francisco ranked worst run major city in America. Tom's got thoughts on that. US may lose more migrants than its gains for the first time in 50 years. Arnold came out of nowhere on The View. And guess what he defended? He says, you're a guest here to immigrants.

You're a guest here. Act like a guest. Be grateful. And The View is like, whoa, this is too much common sense. But it also came from the guy that just three years ago said, screw your freedom. Screw your freedom. So I don't know if it's maybe he's having a change of heart. Who knows?

BuzzFamily, big news. They sold the Lakers. The Lakers are officially out. They sold the Lakers. The Lakers are officially out. They have new ownership. The ownership they had from 1979, I want to say 46 years ago. They bought it for $64 million. Selling it for, I think they bought it for $64 million.

Selling it for $10 billion. It's going to be a nice payday. Homebuilder sentiment. New year's pandemic low as economic uncertainty plagues consumers. JP Morgan Diamond says Flash's ominous warning about economic downturn. Feds hold interest rates steady for fourth time in a row. Tears on the horizon at CNN as insiders reveal stars who may be cut. Streaming surpasses combined broadcast and

cable viewing for the first time. When you see some of the stuff that's going on there on who wants to go into the podcast game, little interesting, but we'll talk about it. It's official streaming is now the king of TV and then we got a few other stories that we'll get into here. R. Kelly, for some of you guys that were wondering, his mind was telling him no, but his body, his body said a complete different thing. So he is hospitalized after near fatal overdose in prison.

Attorney claims it was plot to kill him. Who it was, we don't know at this point. Some are claiming it's Israel, but who knows at this point who it is. There's a camp that's saying R. Kelly's taking money from Qatar. There's another camp that's saying he's got Israeli money from Qatar. There's another camp that saying he's got Israeli money He's funded by a pack who knows these are claims for some of the people in Twitter You got a but you know, it's who you're so much information It's too much. So I don't know if what really matters is is R Kelly pro-israel or pro-euro

That's a that's what matters more than anything else that's going on Obviously that matters to me for some of you that are literal people, that's a joke. Take it, relax. It's going to be okay. All right, so let me tell you, business folks, here's what we got. A guy named Jamie Hepp texted me yesterday. It's so funny, he literally just texted me right now. Jamie, you texted me at 922 and I'm talking about you right now in the podcast.

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I saw Armin the other day. He posted a video with the Valtieman hat and Future Looks Pride hat. I absolutely freaking love it. Go to VTMarch.com, Rob, to see what the Vitaiment hat and Future Looks Bright hat. I absolutely freaking love it. Go to VTMarch.com Rob to see what the gentleman's collection is so people can see it. What do you mean? What about the prince that you've interviewed twice says in his statement, the future looks bright? God I love the fact that this is becoming real around the world.

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Rob, can you do me a favor? Let's start off with Arnold. Arnold is on the view. Now you guys got to realize, Arnold, he made it at the highest level in Hollywood. He made it at the highest level in, not the highest level in politics, the highest level that an immigrant can make in politics, which he became a governor of now the fourth biggest economy in the world. He's on the view.

And he's talking about all this other stuff. And Rob, I don't know if we need to go through the whole thing on what he says. It's kind of selling the dream about the story. You can start it at the first 30 seconds and then we'll go to the last minute here, but here's him on the view. The moment is a lot of logic there. You realize there's hands being put on him like relax. You can't say that. Go ahead, Rob. You're an immigrant in this country did you have a visceral reaction to what they're doing what ICE is doing when you see the videos of it well I tell you you said that immigrant I'm so proud and happy that I was embraced by the American people like that I mean imagine they came over here with the age of 21 with absolutely nothing and then

to create a career like that. You can go to the second half of here. Okay, no other country can you do that. So he's selling America. Go back 10 seconds before the hand gets on him. Right there, right there, go for it. That day, so it's really a great great celebration this is what this is all about is to celebrate people becoming Americans and coming to America and and order and so I just think the world of the great kind of a history that we have with immigrants in America but the key

thing also is at the same time that we got to do things legal oh that is the important and those people that are doing something like what do you mean The key thing also is at the same time that we got to do things legal. Uh oh. That is the important thing. Uh oh. They don't like that. And those people that are doing illegal things in America. Sonny is like, what do you mean? Watch. Watch the hand coming.

Look at the right. They are not smart. Because when you come to America. Watch this. You're a guest. And you have to behave like a guest. Like when I go to someone's house and I'm a guest, then I will do everything I can to keep things clean and to make my bed

and to do everything that is allowed and to do it rather than committing a crime or being abusive or something like that. So that doesn't really work in this country. So I think the important thing is when you become an immigrant, to think about, okay, I go to America because I want to use America for the great opportunities that America has in education, in jobs, creating

a family, all of those kind of things. Then you have to think about, okay, if I get all of those things from America, then I have to give something back. That's right. You have a responsibility as an immigrant to give back to America and to pay back to America and to go and do something for your community. That's right. You have a responsibility as an immigrant to give back to America and to pay back to America and to go and do something for your community. That's good. Okay, Vinny, your thoughts here.

First of all, what a mistake on their part. And yes, he has a past. You know this, I'm not a huge fan. The movies I love, but Arnold from the, Screw Your Freedom, doing all that, and then also he has a checkered pass with his housekeeper, all that stuff aside. I didn't have a good sense of him lately. But this is that moment where they interview the wrong person, a guy that came here as a legal immigrant, massive success.

Okay, and this is real bad. You know this Arnold off the cuff, her trying to stop him, no sugar coating. He shut down this freaking circus and I absolutely love it. And it's like, if you want to come here, okay, bring something to the table. All right, contribute, respect the country. All right, that's not, it's not political. It's just common sense. And I love the fact that they're trying to get him like in a gotcha moment to further their crappy view, this agenda.

But I'm so happy. These are one of those moments where you're like, okay, I could disagree with the guy and I don't like the stuff that he said, especially with COVID and the lockdowns and supporting all that stuff, but this is a great moment for him and I love that he said this. Tom, your thoughts. Well, there's two Arnolds that I've seen over the years. One is true conviction and the other one is basically acting Acting....compliant crowd. And, oh, screw your freedom, he was being compliant with the crowd. He was being pushed, like all the Hollywood people, hey, we got to stay with this. This is the talking point.

This is what we got to stay with. And he got compliant. And at some point in time, I'd love to see somebody interview him and say, what was going on? Who was in your ear? Who was pushing you there? Because I think he was compliant. What I think I saw right here,

this is the same man speaking with true conviction that as a young man me in 1984, when I went to a rally at Pierce College and I saw Ronald Reagan speaking on a campaign stump speech, Arnold Schwarzenegger was up there on the dais and said a few things. He had true conviction. So I think we're seeing Arnold many years later, older, but still the fire and true conviction. And I think he's speaking the truth of what he

believes. But then there's this other side where everybody in Hollywood gets compliant and so they say what they're supposed to say. Have you read Total Recall? Have you read his book Total Recall? No. I haven't. It's one of my top 10 favorite books of all time. Really? Oh, let me tell you, it's a ridiculous book. I mean, you know how I judge a book? Is that I can't. It's one of my top ten favorite books of all time. Really? Oh, let me tell you. It's a ridiculous book. I mean, you know how I judge a book? Is that I can't wait for a break to go in the bathroom and get away from everybody to just read or listen to the audio.

That's exactly what I got from this book. Oh, wow. Yeah, no, it's one of the greatest books I've read. It's incredible. And you know what he talks about? He talks about how he screwed up in his marriage. He talks about what he did with his housekeeper. He talks about all the mistakes he made, the properties he bought in Palmdale, the good,

the bad, the ugly, the Hollywood, the Joe Weider. It's phenomenal to read it, right? I grew up reading his Mr. Olympia, the bodybuilding book that he had, the bodybuilding Bible. He had the best bodybuilding Bible out of all of them that anybody in the bodybuilding world read it. You went through it. The way he would do his workout, the push, pull, all this other stuff, the supersets, the way he would work out his chest, he was always known for having the best chest in the bodybuilding world, won seven Mr. Olympias.

Here's the only thing, the part he is one of the most fierce competitors of all time. If you watch Pumping Iron when he went after Lou Freignal and he said, I'm always coming, all this. Yeah, he's an icon in what he did. Up until COVID, when he had that mistake right there and he went after Trump and he said, screw your freedom, and for a moment he forgot, he lost perspective. And you know when sometimes you are so out of touch with making money that you think you're Above people that you can't stop and have a conversation with them And do you realize who I am it was one of those moments like you know who do you think you are go get the vaccine?

We put the mask on who you know screw your freedom And then he lost a lot of people I'm one of them. I went to Santa Monica Community College He went to Santa Monica Community College. He went to Santa Monica Community College. I wanted to be at Mr. Olympia. I went to Mr. Olympia. I wanted to go compete, be Hollywood, you know, marry a Kennedy, be a governor, all that stuff. And then all of a sudden you see things shift.

However, bringing it to where he's at today, he said a couple other things in a couple other podcasts. Of course, it's tough when he followed Trump and he tried to get Prentiss to go and Trump kept taking shots when Arnold was doing apprentice and it failed. First of all, you never, ever go and replace a show that's been number one for 15 years and think you're going to, there is nothing you can do better than what that person did. That's a big mistake that you made. I don't even know why your management allowed you to do that.

If I was your manager and somebody said, Pat, I'm getting the offer to take over Prentice, don't do it. It's a career mistake. He's going to attack you the moment one few people watch it, he's going to come for your throat because no one's more competitive in that space than Donald Trump. He should have gone and done a different kind of a, what do you call it, done a different kind of a reality TV show working with immigrants. He could have done different things, but he chose to go that route.

And there's a level of bitterness of the comparison between him and Trump, because this guy won in Hollywood, Trump won in media, this guy won in business somewhat, he's a half a billion dollar guy, Trump is a billionaire, this guy won in politics, became a governor, Trump became a president. So he is one of those trifectas, We only have a few trifectas out there. He's one of the trifectas. You gotta give him credit for it. And if I have to isolate this one moment

that he had with the view, I thought he did a great job and brought some common sense into people. Can I, so you wanna move on Pat, but did you hear what Whoopi Goldberg said yesterday? Yeah, I did. So Whoopi Goldberg said that black people in America have it just as bad as folks in Iran. You know what I think, honestly?

I think it's a competition that she has with herself. She's like, I'm gonna say something dumber and ignorant than I said yesterday. It's like, what the hell is she talking about? She's thinking of an air-conditioned ABC studio flapping her freaking gums with a bunch of other morons all day. And a gated house where? Where?

Yeah, where? In Beverly Hills, probably. And then she's comparing it to women in Iran who get beaten to death for showing their hair because their hat is wrong and gay people getting thrown off of buildings. I am sick and tired of Whoopi Goldberg. I mean, Rob, this is a long clip of it, but and the audience clapping, like what are you clapping about? I'm tired of the victim shit. It drives me crazy, bro. And it's slow.

But let's just remember too, the Iranians literally throw gay people off of buildings. Exactly. They don't care about basic human rights. Listen, here's the thing. Let's not do that because if we start with that, we have been known in this country to tie gay folks to the car. What? What? Where the Iranian regime is today is nothing compared to the United States. They used to just keep hanging black people. It is not even the same. I couldn't step foot wearing this outfit.

Wait, wait, wait. That's not what you mean to say. It is the same. No, it's not. The year 2025 in the United States is nothing like if I step foot wearing this Young people have been killed for a monster I mean I can't have my hair showing I can't wear a skirt. I can't have my arms out. I'm telling you you can't get raped I literally said it was up to the Iranian people Yes, it is up to them And that's why I am saying Oh God

That it is the same. Murdering someone for their difference is not good, whoever does it. That's an applause break. So that's why I said you weren't saying what I heard was not what you meant. I think it's very different to live in the United States in 2025 than it is to live in Iran. Not if you're black. Not for everybody.

Not if you're black. What is she talking about? She is the main host of the show. Let me tell you about being in this country. This is the greatest country in the world. But yeah, I know that. I know that. And we all know that.

But every day we are worried. Do we have to be worried about our kids are there kids gonna get shot because they're running through somebody's neighbor these are big deals and I don't mean to say they're not big deals because they are not doing well there either multimillionaire saying that that's a problem in America. What a, oh God. By the way, this is why the show Her Take is going to whoop on these guys. I can't wait for a moment.

Wait till 2027-28, guys, when 2027-2028 comes. You know how many people tagged me yesterday on video saying, you know, this is, Pat needs to fire Adam. This is why they're a pro Zionist. Patrick takes money from Israel and all this other stuff. And guess what happened? You know who at the same time was representing a show on us? Anna Kasparian.

Do you realize how many places you can have some? There couldn't be two people more on opposite sides that we are comfortable having on a show called Her Take so people can have a debate and it was a fiery debate. Adam went on there and you know him and I had a conversation about one of the things that he did that an article was just written about but out of all the things that happened with the show the fight was one of the best fights ever. We like entertaining opposing ideas. It was such a great I can't wait for Her Take in 2028 to have the kind of voice where ladies around the world are saying Finally a show that speaks on my behalf and it's four or five different voices

I'm excited about that But when you watch whoopie this language of victimhood mentality like whoopie you don't think this is getting old Like you don't think this is getting old of always like oh my god, but you don't understand what it is If you're black, you don't understand that this, what's the other girl's name that was making the argument? What is the other? What is her name? Farah, is she Iranian?

Her last name sounds Middle Eastern, right Rob? Is she Persian? Farah the View. Where is she from? Alyssa Farah. No, I don't think she's. Political, maybe she's married to a guy. Early born Los Angeles.

Farah is a Persian name, but I don't know if she's Persian Where are parents from Robbie? Oh? Well that that guy looks like an uncle that's her dad Far right Yeah, I don't know he's on Patterson, New Jersey. Where is he? Yeah? Well, why the anyways, I don't know where he's up, but that mustache is a legit Middle Eastern my that's a very Christian strong Fat-off that's a strong go back that mustache. I just want to see it one more time. Look at that snash. Get in there. That's a Tom Selleck, homie. Legit. You can hide money in there, by the way. So no, but listen, when I hear that language of

victim mentality, it just gets super, super old to keep hearing things like that. Tom, economy, okay? Let's go into economy with some of the stories that we got here on business. Let me see which one I wanna go to. Let's go to this one first. I'm gonna go to this one first. Fed holds interest rates steady for fourth time in a row.

Some were saying maybe we get a quarter, maybe we don't get a quarter. You even said possibly, but you were more leaning towards nothing's going to happen and nothing happened. As usual, Tom is right on these types of issues that's coming up. This is Jerome Powell getting up there to give the announcement that nobody wants to hear but I think he's doing the right thing. Go ahead Rob.

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He didn't wait. No. No filibuster. Despite elevators and certain economies in a solid position. Oh my God. The unemployment rate remains low and the labor market is at or near maximum employment. Inflation has come down a great deal but has been running somewhat above our 2% longer run objective. In support of our goals today

the Federal Open Market Committee decided to leave our policy interest rate unchanged. You can pause it right there. And that's it. By the way, it took three seconds for us to know that he's not changing anything. Tom, thoughts, what's going on here? So here's what's going on with the Fed and I hate to say it this way they don't have enough stats that are bad enough and he just said we're at near full employment yeah we're only at 4.12 to 4.5 depending how you measure it unemployment that's low means a lot of people there and you've got housing isn't moving, and so we need the interest rate to move housing,

but does the stock market need the interest rate right now? Well, would companies take advantage of lower interest rates and go get loans for factories and machines and all that stuff and property? Sure they would, but do you need to do it right now? Look, there's part of me that says, I wish he would have done it, because I think that

will stay ahead of what's going on in housing and that because housing's got a tough moment right now and I really think housing needs that. But if you look at the Fed dot plot up here and the Fed dot plot is all the Fed Board of Governors saying where they believe it's going to go. So they're allowed Pat to anonymously vote in a dot pot. This is all the fed board of governors and you can see the projection is one half of a percent below where we are now. So for year end they're thinking two quarter point cuts and that's what the wall street journalist chart comes from there is saying and they're saying it's a 25 chance the dot plot says the cut comes in July and a 65% chance

That the cut comes in September September back to school and the third quarter So what's going on right now is the Fed is letting the economy settle? But there's something that was in there that he said deeper into his Bedtime reading because if you listen to him speak about this you can fall asleep into his bedtime reading. Cause if you listen to him speak about this, you can fall asleep. It's like, I almost did. And did you notice that the, that the very few people cover the fed there's like, there's like nine media people in there and you can hear they don't make a lot of noise, but he says, we haven't been able to feel like we've learned a great deal yet. And we haven't been through a situation like this,

and I have to be humble, here it is Pat, be humble about our ability to forecast it, which we don't have, so we need to see actual data. So what he's saying is, I'm not putting a streetlight at the intersection, I'm gonna wait till there's a crash, now I have data, and then I'll put a streetlight at the intersection That's what the Fed is saying right now and the housing market needs some help I reached out to Bill Pulte who's in the president's administration and he's pointing out as

He has in lockstep with the president. We need interest rates to come down and We've done our job on inflation inflation is down employment is there So why not give a quarter point cut? Ahead of maybe any slowing of the economy or anything coming in the second half So I I agree with bill on that and so I wish we could have had a cut but I understand why we didn't I'm, okay with it. Is this the President Trump? Did you see what Trump said about Powell and how he feels about him? I know he's probably going to be happy about it.

You're going to like it. You're going to like it. Go ahead, Rob. And I think this was also he was asked about. Tom, I can't hear it. Go ahead, Rob. Go back. Go for it.

Can't hear it. I can't hear Rob. Now we have a man that just refuses to lower the fed rate, just refuses to do it. And he's not a smart person. I don't even think he's that political. I think he hates me, but that's okay. You know, he should. He should.

I call him every name in the book trying to get him to do something. I've been nice to him. I do it always. I don't know how to sell. I've been so nice to him, fellas, you wouldn't believe. Let's have dinner. Too late.

I'd call him too late. Come on, too late. Let's have dinner. I do it every way in the book. I'm nasty. I'm nice nothing works Trump is the only one that can praise you and shit on you in the same sense You think he's a good guy and I hate his guts and I'm telling you I'm telling you Trump is not wrong

Trust me. Trump is not wrong, but I'm okay with one more month. We. And I'm telling you, I'm telling you, Trump is not wrong. Trust me, Trump is not wrong, but I'm okay with one more month. We wait. I'm okay. You think it will change in a month? Yeah, yeah. It will. Oh, for sure it will.

For sure it will. In the next 60 to 90 days, they're lowering the rates. For sure they're doing that. And right now, you know, I think they needed this good news because they need some kind of good news to be given. This was desperately needed. The market needed it. His administration needed it.

It could have been a good positive distraction that they needed it, but Powell is Powell. Powell is the guy that is not motivated by a lot of different things. By the way, what did Powell do before? What company was he? What was his career before? Rob, can you pull up Jerome Powell? What was Jerome Powell's first job? I actually want to know this guy's background.

Jerome Powell, what did he do before? So DC, Powell, Princeton, George Washington, lawyer, working on 35ers, switching investment back in the mid-80s. And who was he with in investment banking? Carlisle Group. So he worked with Rubenstein because we had him on the podcast. Rubenstein was on the podcast. He runs a very good podcast. 1990 Powell briefly served on the financial finance at George Bush. Powell left Carlisle

Group in 2005, founded Severn Capital Partners, a private investment company that was a visiting scholar and bipartisan policymaker. Okay, so he became a Federal Reserve Board of Governors after being nominated by the post of President Obama in 2012 He was subsequently elevated to chairman by President Trump Succeeding Janet in a renominated submission by Joe Biden Powell built his reputation watching DC during Obama administration as a consensus Builder and problem solver. Okay. All right, so let's see what happens here But I'm telling you I'm very comfortable with it and I know why President Trump would not be happy about it I wouldn't be either if I was a president president but I don't think it's a bad thing. But with

that being said, we have a special guest in the house that asks technical questions. I don't know why she does it. If we can please bring her in here. Nancy, are you here? Nancy, how are you? Come on in. You are right here. Let me stand up and welcome you. Great to meet you, Nancy. How are you? Great to meet you. He's the troublemaker here. I'm sorry.

Oh no, we know you are. We know you are. But it's great to have you. So I got a to have you. So I got a question for you. We want you to see how much ruckus and chaos you create sometimes. Why do you ask such a technical question from the former VP candidate, Tim Walz? I want to start off with this if you don't mind because this is an offensive question.

You can ask some subtle questions, but Rob, if you can play this, the audience is deeply concerned about your question. Go ahead, Rob. What is a woman? What is a woman is the question. I'm not sure I understand the question here. That? Okay.

What do you want me to say? I want you to say that a woman like me is an adult human female that men can't become women You guys are the party of violence and you're the party erasing women. You don't respect us. You're a bigot You're a misogynist. You're a sexist. Mr. Chairman. I yield back You know, I was trying to listen carefully and I had played it back a couple times but you sounded upset What happened if I sound a pissed off is because I was no it's just like I just he just ended his presidential career I mean there is no 2028 for Tim Walls. I buried him that day No, you have all these witnesses these people that come to these big committees before Congress, they testify under oath, it's very, very public, and they spend millions of dollars, millions of dollars to prepare for these hearings for the toughest questions.

What they're not ready for are for the dumbest questions, the most simple, most common sense questions. And so this is just a thing I've taken up on. I just ask Democrats when they come before me, what's a woman? And they just cannot answer a question. Who have you noticed that is actually willing to be reasonable and give the answer?

Nobody. Are you serious? No, I'm dead serious. And so he sat there and I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Like he just deer in the headlights. You were a heartbeat away for becoming the vice president of the United States of America. That's scary.

And you can't define a woman. If you can't define a woman, then you definitely can't define our rights as women. You definitely can't protect us as women. You can't protect our daughters. You can't protect me. I have no faith or confidence in you." And so for me, like looking forward to 2028 and the next, you know, what's post Trump, which I think is going to continue to be MAGA, but like the common sense that Trump brings to the table, we are showcasing these people for being

crazy. But here's this guy, I emasculated him so badly over the question. He's like, what do you want me to say? Did he talk to you afterwards? Like was there a moment where you guys talked afterwards or no? No, no, I mean I embarrassed him. Was there, you know, like he got completely emasculated. Something I enjoy doing by the way. I'll try not to do it here today. You enjoy doing that?

I love it, yeah. I just, because they're just, they're not ready for the common sense question. They're not ready for the simple questions. And when he just sat there when he had no answer and then he didn't understand the question and then he said, what do you want me to say? And I'm like, oh my God, you're never gonna be president.

You will not be running in 2028, you're done. Well, I don't know whether it was because of that question or not, if he would ever be president because the way he handled himself in the debate with JD Vance, that was one of the, that's probably the worst debate performance I've ever seen aside from Joe Biden's debate with the president. The first one where within the first 30 seconds, you're like, this is not good. Remember how uncomfortable it was? He said he's a knucklehead.

No, no, I'm not even talking about Tim Walz. I'm talking about Joe Biden against Trump in the first debate. It was disturbing to watch it. The summer. So Nancy, question for you. High school, who were you in high school? Were you always feisty? Were you always like this? I would say I was a pretty normal kid.

I mean, I struggled with things. I failed biology one time, but I actually dropped out of high school. So when I was a junior, my third year, I dropped out of high school. My dad's a retired general my mom was my one of my school teachers at my high school and They said if you're gonna stop going to school, you got to start going to work So I picked up a job as a waitress at a Waffle House on the side of the interstate back in 1995 That's where I got my start. This is in Carolina, South Carolina Wow. I lived in Columbia for start. This is in Carolina? South Carolina. Wow, I lived in Columbia for nine months when I was at Fort Jackson. First time I went to a Waffle House was in South Carolina. They hadn't seen people

who look like me in South Carolina. They serve everybody and it's the best cup of coffee you can get for two bucks. Yeah. There was no inflation at Waffle House. We went hundreds of times. So Waffle House, so General, did Dad teach the toughness when you were raised by General? The visualization of a father like that is everything's organized, top notch, high pressure, high expectation. I would say he was tough as nails and that's probably where I get my attitude from and I just don't give a you-know-what. But when I eventually would get my high school diploma, I would to the Citadel that place toughened me up I mean when you're

getting a face full of mud and they're telling you to do a hundred push-ups more I mean you just don't care if you have friends in Washington or not when you're sitting in the barber's chair and they're cutting your hair to where you have like an inch on top getting screamed at and everything you just there's you know nothing else to lose. Like that's what has hardened me for Congress because Congress is not for the weary. If you want to be effective,

running for office these days, you might get shot. So it's a very sort of very violent environment right now. And I mean, people are always throwing phones in your faces, recording you, cursing you out, yelling at you a lot of times. And so it's, there's, and when you have very powerful people who've come after you, come after me, spending millions of dollars to try to get me unelected

and I win by record numbers, you gotta be tough for that, be able to do that. When, when are you planning on being a little bit more competitive? You know, like when do you think that fire is gonna show up? Because we've been waiting for it. You've been waiting for it. You've been waiting for it? We've been waiting for it.

I was born, I came out of the womb breathing fire, walking on coals. I kind of see it, I believe it. So let's go to this other one. You had a clip here, because there is the Nancy Maze, you know, the greatest hits. Rob, there's one where, you know, you wanted to say this word over and over and over and over again. Watch this one here. Just a beautiful setting here, folks. Watch this.

Go for it. The gentlelady has used a phrase that is considered a slur in the LGBTQ community and the transgender community. Let me please finish without interruption. Tranny, tranny, tranny. I don't really care You want penises in women's bathrooms and i'm not going to have it. Okay. No, thank you Let the uh gentleman state his parliamentary inquiry

How does a basic common sense issue like this, how do they keep fighting this like don't they realize Most of america including democrats are not for this, but they keep pushing it. They're tripling down for one half of one percent, which if you just read yesterday, the Democrat National Committee is broke and they are losing donors left and right. And I think it's because they are doubling down on issues that average people, average Americans, average Democrats don't agree with. I don't know anyone in their right mind

that would allow a well fully intacted male to undress next to their 12 year old daughter in a locker room or shower next to her. That is just not a normal thing. And that's what the tranny movement, that's what this has become. It's like grooming, it's sexual, it's a fetish. And they are the party of violence

and their party of pedophiles, the party of grooming and all those things and it's now mainstream and it's you know, I'm a girl mom and I'm a woman and you know, I'm very supportive I voted for gay marriage and I would do it again I believe in freedom like as a Republican as a conservative the government shouldn't tell you who to marry, right? I don't want them in your boardroom or in your bedroom. That's the libertarian in me But now this thing has gotten so far You know that our rights are being erased women's rights

I think gay rights to the trainees have taken over and and for what your mental illness like I'm not participating in your Mental health crisis go talk to a therapist and don't find yourself in my private space because you're gonna be quickly Escorted or dragged on out how in in in the world private space because you're going to be quickly escorted or dragged on out. How, in the world of, the world you're in, Congress, like I, you know, when you're in financial services, you're selling, you use your charm, your charisma, your looks, whatever you have, you use to try to get things done, right? How, how often is it folks on the opposite side that disagree with you are super flirtatious with you?

How often is it when there's policies going on and they come back and they try to, where you're able to win them over with looks, with charm and charisma? How often does that happen? I mean, not often. I mean, it happens occasionally, but not often. I mean, we're like, we're dug, we've dug our heels in. It's very partisan right now. It's more partisan than it's ever been.

And you know, I've done a lot of nonpartisan stuff particularly like technology and cybersecurity and everything where I get all Democrats and all Republicans To vote for it, but I've never seen it the way that it is right now I mean, it's really been in I'm four years. I mean it's gotten worse Even in four years. Yeah, I mean Jasmine Crockett Wow like that lady That woman's off the rails don't hang out on the weekends. Oh hell no. I mean Jasmine Crockett, wow, like that lady, that woman's off the rails. You guys don't hang out on the weekends? Oh, hell no. I mean, no, that would not be a good situation. We'll just put it that way.

You guys run into each other when you do, is there any conversation or nothing? Not with her. I mean, when I first came in, I tried to give people the benefit of the doubt and talk to them, but they've just gone so far off the rails. I won't have a conversation with AOC. I won't talk to them but they've just gone so far off the rails I won't have a conversation with AOC I won't talk to Rashida Tlaib I won't talk

to Jasmine Crockett and I will not be friends unless she can get her shit together and be a normal human the last time I really heard from her in a hearing she was telling me as a rape survivor that my fear was fake that I that I shouldn't have fear of men in private spaces as a rape survivor and I lost my shit and I told her we would take it outside that's how angry it made me. So I have very little patience for any kind of BS right now just none zero because our country is on the brink precipice really of going one direction or the other and I'm following

Donald Trump to the end of the earth to make sure we get back to where our country used to be What clip is this Rob? They got that's that one. That is let's see this one Right now so she gonna keep saying trans trans trans so that people will feel threatened and child listen Call me a child It's a broken playbook that does that the consequence of the end of the playbook is Increased lunacy and partisanship because the place book is simple from the Democrat side step one find a victim or invent one Step two be seen as the voice of the victim and then try to win the empathy voters of everybody that says, look how noble those Democrats are,

what they're doing for this victim. But they're inventing a victim. And then what they have to do is once you've invented the victim, you have to actually construct something of an argument that gets more loony the deeper you go into victims that aren't victims in what you've invented. To the point where you look and then CNN, you see Harry Antony on CNN, he reads all the stats,

he even says, he says, look, Hispanics have gone this way and the African Americans have gone this way. They're losing their grip on yesterday's victims, so they have to invent tomorrow's victims, and then you have to go with down home language like that and be actually not very, you know, she didn't look very mature Crockett does to just make an elegant point in the halls of the legislature. And so it looks more loony and guess what? Then tomorrow, now we got to find a different victim and we got to even go weirder and we go wider. Let's add one more step to that because now in the last two weeks it's get arrested and get elected.

That's what they're doing. That's what Democrats are doing. Old school. We'll be seen as the voice of the victim and now get arrested for it. Assault people get arrested and get out of jail free card and that'll get them elected. I think this is a failing plan.

People see it, it's crazy. They're lunatics. Tami, just to make sure we get on the record, you're saying you're not gonna support Jasmine Crockett in 2028. That's what you're saying. I just wanna make sure. get on the record you're saying you're not gonna support Jasmine Crockett in 2028. That's what you're saying. I just want to make sure. She does not have your vote.

You know I'm at 22.6% and dropping by the minute. Right, okay got it. So I want to reach your story with Ilhan Omar. I'm sorry, so that was negative 22. So we got Ilhan Omar who is you know somebody you hang out with a lot in the building. Her office is next door to mine. Is it literally? Is it literally is it literally? I have to each other regular. I walk by it every day when I'm up there Wow

So Ilhan Omar claims us is turning into one of the worst countries in the world I don't know if you heard about this or not so far left representative Ilhan Omar Stated in an interview on democracy now YouTube page published Friday I mean I grew up in a dictatorship and I don't even remember ever witnessing anything like that to have a democracy beacon of hope for the world to now be turned into one of the, you know, one of the worst countries where the military are now in the streets without any regard to the people's constitutional rights. So is this the clip rap?

Yes sir. Go ahead and play the clip on what she's talking about. To be coming out of our country, I mean, I grew up in a dictatorship. And I don't even remember ever witnessing anything like that. To have a democracy, a beacon of hope for the world to now be turned into one of the, you know, one of the worst countries where the military are in our streets without any regard for people's constitutional rights, while our president is spending millions of dollars prompting himself up like a failed dictator with a military parade. It is really shocking, and it should be a wake-up call for all Americans to say this is not

the country we were born in, this is not the country we believe in, this is not the country our founding fathers imagined, and this is not the country that is supported by our constitution, our ideals, our values. And we should all come to it. We can pause it right there. There should be a limit for her. So what do you think about what she just said? Well, I mean, this isn't the country she was born in. As my first thought, she just talked about that,

but what she's saying, she's saying she hates, it's the fact, it's the fact, she's saying she hates the military. So to our men and women in uniform, number one, I want to say, that's just un-American. We support a military. The parade was one of the greatest things I've seen in my lifetime. But quite frankly, I'm fine with putting on our one-way

flight back to Somalia. You don't like it here? You think it's so bad? You have a dictator as a president who, by the way, loves freedom and loves the Constitution, loves democracy, and he's protecting it every single day. She can just go back to Somalia. Don't forget her brother. They're particularly well-off. Well, they can go together. Well, I'm going with that as- And the new husband. How much do you how much is there a conversation behind closed doors?

Because if anybody would know you guys would know did she really marry her brother there is yes No, it's all these things. I wasn't in Congress when that went down. I am not sure But I know it's I know it's the rumor out there, but I've never weighed in I just saw just recently the marriage certificate was online and it says his name, but people are like, yeah, but that's not her brother, but it kind of looks like it allegedly would be her brother. On a marriage certificate. It's kind of weird, but you know what they call it?

She's in Minnesota's what, fifth district in Minnesota? Like, can anything, is anything positive coming out of there from the Tim Walls to her brother? They call it little Mogadishu. They call like the amount of people that have been in trouble on the terror watchlist in that area that's not pro-american trust me and if she had it her way it'd be freaking sure they call it sharia Ville that's what they call that if you let people like that take over and run the show that's what the

shit is gonna become and if you don't like this place it is so easy all you have to do you could go to orbits get a flight and get the out of here i've seen parades in her district and they don't have the american flag no they're simalian the simalian flags yeah it's not you say they don't have american flags when they have parades and do all their stuff protests i don't think they would have a lot of america not in her district no they're all flying the simalian flag and this not simalia this is the united states of america you don't like it you can bingo. Yeah, and here's a question though, that I got for you. So, you know how California or New York or Illinois, these guys try to turn Texas blue, right?

So they would send people there to start working on a plan to turn Texas blue. They're long-term thinkers. It'll be a 10, 20. Like the Chinese. Exactly. CCP. So they're like, let's turn Texas blue. Let's turn Florida blue. Florida turn more Republican because of everything that happened during COVID.

Is there any suspicion of how long-term they're thinking where, you know, there's this discussion about the guy, whether he was from ISIS or one of these Hezbollah's where he said, the difference between us and you is, you guys have expensive watches where you can, you know, you brag about how much, you know, your watch is. We have all the time in the world. We will wait 10, 20, 30 years to seek vengeance on you, right? Do you guys amongst the community when you talk to each other sense that there's a strategy

to move different Ilhan Omar's in different cities to go into political, you know, become congressmen to have more control in cities so they can gradually spread this ideology amongst different cities and states? It's not at the congressional level. It's definitely at the local level. Look at that guy's running from, yeah, local mayoral races, school board races, municipal races, city council races, and where those, where they are turning those city councils like neon blue, they're trying to get illegals to vote in their elections. Look at the guy who's running for mayor in New York, I can't say his name, but that socialist guy or whatever that AOC is supporting, but they're, they're, they do it differently. We're always

top down as Republicans thinking about the biggest office and then on down, but we have forgotten bottom up, which is where they have succeeded and they've put these commies, these socialists, these people that are crazy and un-American at the lower level of offices that have more control over the people. Because the government closest to the people is the one with the most control,

which is the scariest part. And by the way, it's a phenomenal strategy. If you doing it, you know, they're doing it the right way. They'll start cuz that's shaking hands That's where you're in shaking hands versus you're talking you're talking neighbor. That's right. So you're shaking hands You're doing it. So long term if this continues What is your biggest concern with folks like Ilhan Amar or so Ron? Mom Donnie or others that are climbing the ladder and you know working their way up. What's your concern long term?

10, 20, 30 years on what America could look like if they continue doing this? Yeah, well it's the importation of these people with this ideology and it goes beyond Ilhan Ammar and AOC. It's like we're importing this ideology into our country by having the free wide open borders that we've had for the last four years and it's bad because Just last week in South Carolina Conway, South Carolina small town, South Carolina A kid was just arrested because he affiliated with ISIS as we're planning a terrorist attack this kid Look, I don't know. There he is

You know young guy filled with ISIS planning a terrorist attack in small town South Carolina. So the importation of this ideology, which I believe is coming from illegal immigration largely, and then spreading with the Democrat party, they're being brainwashed into this thing. And this is like a, this is like, this is a cancer and we cannot let it metastasize. Well, you got to have law and order. You got to have people who are pushing back hard the way that Trump has.

You're not here legally, get the hell out. And just with everything, pushing back on all the crazy Democrat policies that have allowed this thing to fester, especially with the trans issues too. They've allowed that to become so mainstream. We're literally gonna have to push people back with our words, people are gonna have to get arrested, you have to draw a line in the sand,

and you've gotta carry that line, you can't pull it back. You're in this world, so question for you, you're seeing what's going on in UK, right? To the point where they've lost control, London top name, kid name is Mohammed in a country like UK, and you're now at a point where it's a tipping point, where we've lost control. There's nothing at this point that they can do about it minus chaos, which will be, you

know, they will be scared shitless to do that because of the amount of media attention it's going to bring. When you watch what's going on there and then watch what's going on here, our constitution, we have freedom of speech, you have, you know, Second Amendment, you know, arms, you got freedom of assembly, you got, you know, religion that I can have, whatever faith I wanna have, you can't put a stop to it. Even in Plano, when they were building that facility,

the big facility that Greg Gabbard came out and said, well, they don't even have the permits and they don't have this, so what? They're eventually gonna get the permits. It's gonna take a year, two years, three years, they're gonna get it. As what? They're eventually going to get the permits. It's going to take a year, two years, three years, they're going to get it. As ambitious and competitive as they are, they're coming to a city near you. It's going to happen.

There's a guy that was on TV explaining the fact that any church in Florida that's shutting down, they're buying it and they're turning into a... Oh yeah, in Texas too. Oh Rob, play this clip here Rob. I saw the thing in Texas... Oh yeah, in Texas too. Oh Rob, play this clip here Rob. I saw the thing in Texas. Oh no, you gotta see this clip here because they're building, the Epic Center is one thing,

but the part that matters the most is the ones that they're doing it locally. Watch this one here, go for it. No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC Optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca.

We are buying these churches. This is Florida. We bought three churches so far, converted them to message. And now we have one we are buying with a school to make it because we have to serve the same people. The people who were part of that community one day they will be Muslims. So we'll make it into a masjid and an Islamic school for our children and their children inshallah. 100 years ago they invaded the Muslim world and they built missionary schools

and destroyed Islamic schools and masjids. Today, we bring the favor back, turn their churches into masjids and their schools into Islamic schools. Bring the light of Islam to here. we're able to buy ready to go Institutions that have been there for a long time, but they emptied out and now it's time to be filled Robbie composite so for a man who's a Christian myself I got four kids, you know, I'm a Christian but also in America the way the Constitution is written

They're not doing anything illegal. So you could say the religion of Islam doesn't work with Western ideology, which is true. Many people would agree with that. It does not, the way they have Sharia law and what they'd like to see if they have more control. But there's nothing you can do about it. So if it's math, like you look at the number one Warren Buffett. You can ban Sharia law and make sure

that they're not doing that on their property. Not if they eventually have more. Because, okay, so compound interest, this is how compound interest works. Warren Buffett is today worth $160 billion, okay? Do you know what he was worth at 52 years old? 336. He was only worth $336 million.

That's a lot of money, but $336 million. But from 336 to $160 billion compound interest, he probably didn't think. That's his net worth. That's what happened to him, if you look at that. Look how small it was and then boom, skyrocketing, right? You take this chart and you put this in America and say what's going to happen with how much you're going to grow. If they grow, and then next thing you know, they got 150 people in Congress in the next 30-40 years, America's

no longer America. So how many people are sitting here being intentional about what this could look like in the next 20, 30, 40 years? We're not. We're not. We're not at all. Not at all. And that's why you've got to push back. I mean, that's what Little Mo' Goodie Show, what's going on in Minnesota, They've allowed that to happen. I can tell you in South Carolina if I'm alive that ain't never happening in my state ever Like I would never I would go in there and make sure that they're not Brainwashing people that they're not how would you make sure I take the law in their law enforcement onto the property make sure that they're not Doing Sharia law that would not be a thing. But they won't do it though. They won't, the only time they can do Sharia law is once they're in charge.

So I don't think they worry about somebody like you. I think it happens in the shadows. And I think once you get people who've witnessed it or can report it and be anonymous, you go in that way and do it. That's the only way you can do it right now is making sure you ban Sharia law and make sure that it's not a thing in that community and you arrest those who are breaking the law. That is the only way you do it, but you have to have people with a backbone. You have to have a legislature who will say no Sharia law, that it's illegal. You got to have that law

on the books either in your state constitution or in statute. And then you've got to have enough law enforcement to be able to make sure the law is being enforced. Because there is an effort in South Carolina near the Charlotte area to do something like this too. That worries me. That's been going on for over a decade. So we are seeing it even in smaller states. If they're doing it all legally, there's nothing you can do about it.

If it's all legal, they have more kids than you. If they have more partners than you. I'd like to have 20 kids, I got four of them. My wife is done. She's like, baby, you gotta find another person. I'm like, Liv, if we were in the Middle East, I would have four or five. Maybe we gotta move to Minnesota is what I'm thinking.

What do you think? We go over there and we're like, hey, let's have those 20 kids. No laws in Minnesota. Yeah, exactly. There are Utah, but it depends on what strategy you wanna take, but when you see this, they're doing everything the right way, they're not breaking the law, they're not doing anything that they can't do, they're making more kids, they're converting

people, they're being fanatical loud about it so they're marketing and selling, hey come, this is what we're going to do if you come with us, we're going to give you backing. And you're sitting there being tolerant about it and you're following the Constitution. Nancy, I hate to say this, I don't think there's anything you can do if they keep growing legally. I think it is a matter of time purely due to compound interest unless if somebody steps up and does something real about it, I don't think the current Constitution allows you. What was something real about it? How would you define real?

Well, that's your world. That's why I have you here. I'm a regular guy. I'm just an innocent guy that's a business guy. I support churches. I support my church, which is planting churches. So it's the same kind of thing. We as Christians in our faith, we plant churches not just here in the United States, but all

around the world. So for people of faith like you, Jewish faith, Christian faith, whatever that faith is, planting churches, planting synagogues, we have to do the same thing too. And we've been doing it for thousands of years and have to continue doing it. I'm a big fan of our church and the church plantings. Our church, Seacoast Church in South Carolina has planted over a thousand churches worldwide.

So we have to continue to spread the faith, our faith, our Christian faith. We're not having enough kids though. Oh, we're not, we're definitely, I have two. You gotta get one more. That's all I got. I know, I'm almost 50 though. So I think I'm almost 50 though, so

Juice characters in the Bible that were having kids in their 80s and 90. I tell that to my wife doesn't work But you know what I'm you know what I'm asking. I mean to me I Think about time are you processing what I'm saying on how you know I think we talked about this in Kentucky a couple weeks ago. Where did you end up with this? Well where I end up with it is, you know, you have two choices, and it's a very binary choice. You have the battle of battles in the United States to stand up and say, we have freedom of religion, but this one, long term, is a non-starter. That is the battle of battles, and that's where it is and otherwise, they'll use the law and

They will very legally Expand their numbers and then go see what happens you think it little mogadishu is an issue wait until there's 50 of those Individuals and there's Congress and suddenly that whole wing of Congress. Well, there's a of those individuals in Congress. And suddenly that whole wing of Congress, well there's little Mogadishu, the whole Congress. So the battle of battles is to stand up and say, hang on, we do have freedom of religion. That was built at a time that this, this, this, this, this was happening for Christianity, for our faith and for pilgrims. And remember, you know, they'll say, hey, the Muslims

are religious zealots with guns. Well, who are the pilgrims? They weren't exactly unarmed peasants. And so that's where it is. It's turning the page and saying, this doesn't fly. And we have to create frameworks and legislation, because otherwise, the long-term outcome of it is immigration, procreation, assimilation, and finally, then you get conflict on the legal forums and say, wait, why did

we let this happen? Because the weeds grew in the field and you didn't make a decision back then. So check this out. Here's something that Tom just prompted that it made me think about. There's an insurance company out there called Thrivent. Thrivent is a fraternal insurance company. It's a Christian benefit society. The way you get an insurance policy with them is you have to admit you're a Christian. So if you don't and you have to read something out to them or else you don't get it. We were almost about to get a contract with them.

The moment said you have to say this. We're like, so not only is life insurance already so hard to sell, at the end of it, I would say, okay, you wanna, here, let's hold hands and let's pray real quick before you get qualified for this. It's tough to do that, right? But in countries that are Muslim-driven countries, I don't know how many Christians can move up politically.

I don't know if I have to have a certain denomination. I think if somebody is coming in, like you know, hey, you're in America, you want to become a citizen, you've got to be able to answer these certain questions that you go through whatever the 10, 20 questions they are. You know, who's this, who's the vice president, what is this, legislative, what are the three branches, okay, great. Maybe not for citizenship, but if you're going to go run for office, Congress, Senate, all that stuff, these are the values that we have.

I know this is going to scare the crap out of everybody because they're like, well, Thomas Jefferson was an atheist and this one, well, he was really technically this. I get it. I do think there needs to be something in place where an ideology that just straight up doesn't work with America, you can't come and create laws. Period. You cannot come and create laws. And if we create that locally, state level, I'm going to get so much aid for saying this.

I'm going to get so much aid for saying this. But to me, if somebody sits there and says, I don't think it's that big of a deal. It's just we're gonna go out there and focus on the issues today. I'm a long-term thinker. I think this is gonna be a top five issue in the next 30 years. I think it'll be a top five issue in the next 30 years.

And everyone's gonna say, what do we do about it? Now, you know what you can do about it at that time? Nothing. You can't do shit about it. It's too late. Because the decisions weren't made today. And too often, all we think about is, yeah, I'm paying my bills, I got my life,

everything is good, everything is groovy, I'm straight. Okay, boom. Fast forward, you'll be 30 years gonna come like this. I didn't think I was gonna be 46 this quickly. I thought I was gonna be 46, maybe a little longer than 46 years, right? I thought it was gonna take about eight years to be 46 years old.

But time goes by fast. So anyways, I was just curious to know what you were gonna say about this. Nancy, you got a clip on YouTube that didn't get three million views, four million views, five million. You got a clip, I don't know if you know this or not. It's got 61 million views.

Is this the Twitter? No, this is this one. Oh, Hunter Biden? But play this clip on. 16 million? No, no, not 16 million. 61 million views. The Hunter Biden one?

Rob, can you go back and show her, she needs to see this. I thought it was the vaccine one. Can you just go back and put this on there to see this? This clip went off the charts. I don't give a fuck what you think. Not that one, Rob. Rob is listening to hip hop. There's a part of Rob that's hardcore gangster

that we're trying to get it out of him. Let's listen to this first and then we'll find it. Go for it, Rob. Where did you go to medical school? I did not go to medical school. Oh, this is Twitter one. I'm sorry? I did not go to medical school. That's what I thought. Why do you think you or anyone else at Twitter have the medical expertise to censor a doctor's

expert opinion? Our policies regarding COVID were designed to protect individuals. We were seeing you guys censored Harvard educated doctors, Stanford educated doctors, doctors that are educated in the best places in the world. And you silenced those voices. Did the US government ever contact you or anyone at Twitter to pressure Twitter to moderate or censor certain tweets?

Yes or no? Receive legal demands to remove content from the platform from the US government and governments all over the world. Thank God for Matt Taibbi, thank God for Elon Musk for allowing to show us the world that Twitter was basically a subsidiary of the FBI. Pause that Rob. So when are you running for governor?

I have to make the decision. Are you gonna make the decision? Yeah, I can't say I'm a candidate because then I have to declare so we're thinking about it. Okay. And I'm getting serious about it. I just, you know, we're a red state and it's supposed to be law and order and conservative, but it's not. I mean, I just found a couple weeks ago Clemson University had 15 genders on a form on their website. I did a video on X. I called the president of the college three hours later. They took it down. I've had two other colleges have the same sort of thing.

This gender-bending ideology is everywhere. States have funded it and allowed this woke DEI tranny stuff to happen. We had a sanctuary sheriff in South Carolina for the last four years and she wasn't working with ICE and I found out she was letting hundreds of illegals out on the streets who are murderers, rapists and pedophiles. No one who was in statewide office said a damn thing. They could have impeached her and then the voters could have elected a new one. But I just said, you know, this is, we don't have law and order and there's a lot of corruption and I've been through the system as a survivor and I see all the corruption between our solicitors,

the lawyers that fund the solicitors' campaigns, the corruption with our AG. Our AG had a case that he prosecuted with 1,900 photos that this pedophile had, convicted pedophile, of toddlers as young as three being raped by animals. He had six indictments. Our Attorney General, Alan Wilson, pled him down to one. And his sentence, guess what? Guess how many days he served in jail. Anybody wanna guess? Zero.

Two years. How many days did he serve in jail? Less than a week. One. One day. We have 353 murder cases in Charleston County in South Carolina. We've got a case in Mer-

Are you serious about this? Yeah, on the docket. Are those the ones that are sitting? What is the name of this? I read about this. Are you serious about this? Yeah, on the docket. Are those the ones that are sitting? What is the name of this? I read about this. They're idle murder cases. 353 in just one county, in a rural county in South Carolina, it's Sumter, kind of near

Charlotte Upstate. They have 60 cases. Again, there's a case in Mertle Beach that the Wall Street Journal has covered. Scott Spivey's name. I just met with the family in Loris on Tuesday. They chased him down the road nine miles. They shot him 17 times as he was facing away, got killed by a shot in the back. The AG wouldn't prosecute, governor wouldn't do anything, solicitor buried the head in sand. Come to find out with the tapes later,

the shooter knew the guy was terrified, admitted he chased him down the road. I just, no prosecution. So like I'm actually trying to talk to the feds to get them to come in, not just in cases that I'm working on, but like the entire state, like how does this happen? We have more pedophiles out on the streets than we have in jail. Murderers are out running free rapists, running wild. Try to get a rapist convicted in my state. You can't. And so it's just, if I do it, I'm gonna be the drop the hammer law and order, Trump in high heels,

I'm coming for you. And if you're a pedophile, you ain't voting for me. You're voting for the pedophile protector, Attorney General Allen Wilson. Like, I'm gonna come for the criminals. I'm gonna make sure our state is safe. Florida's done a great job under Governor DeSantis. Trump's doing a phenomenal job, Governor DeSantis. Trump's doing

a phenomenal job and I want to bring his America First policies. How is McMaster doing? This has happened. He's a Republican Governor. I like him personally. He's a Republican Governor, but this has happened while he's been in office. And I'm a fighter and I just, I would never allow like a daughter going to college to allow men to share dormitories and showers with him. I mean, that's just the kind of thing that's been going on in South Carolina. And

everyone is just buried their heads in the sand. And that is not America first. That is not part of the Trump doctrine. Is he fighting it? Is he talking to you guys? Is he coming to say, what do we know? No, no. And I love him personally. He's a great guy, great family, nothing. Neither is my lieutenant governor, my attorney general, nothing. They're doing nothing about any of this. And I'm the one who's exposing it. The pedophile I mentioned, Donald Gresh, just got arrested for the second time.

He violated, I think, a sex registry thing or something, but the only reason he got re-arrested is because I'd been talking about it on air. And so it's like, I'm not even governor yet. And I have forced these universities to stop putting trannies on their gender forms on their applications for college. I've stopped one university from promoting

cross-dressing on their website. I have exposed what's going on in our justice system or injustice system, and I don't even hold state office. So that just says to me, I'm the only one screaming about it that we need new leadership who's going to... What's this, Rob? What's this? This was from two days ago.

This was about the attorney general that was mentioned earlier, Alan Wilson. So can we look into Alan Wilson? Can you go a little bit deeper? Can you go to his profile? I just want to see what his background is. So Alan Wilson, an original member of South Carolina National Guard, National Guard 51st general South Carolina member of the Republican Party? So this guy's a Republican Wilson has litigated by a block same-sex marriage and valid for the care act challenge Okay, Wilson was born boom boom boom go a little bit to the right to see what we see an epo baby

He's the son of Congressman Joe Wilson He's been in office for 16 years and this shit's been going on with him as attorney general. He likes to put out the press release, hey we arrested this pedophile, but he will not put out the press release of what the conviction was, if they get convicted at all. That's how bad it is. I need the feds to come in and take over our state because what happens is you know we have a legislature filled of lawyers, they elect the judges and then the lawyer legislators and other lawyers,

they fund the campaigns for the attorney general. They fund the campaigns for the solicitors. In fact, the solicitor working on a case that I am the key witness in right now, her last big fundraiser was headlined by the attorney for two predators who are being investigated by law enforcement. Evidence has been leaked to these guys.

You know, and so the system is just so corrupt. There's I don't think anything going. You can't go back. I need the feds to come in and take over the state. That's what needs to happen. You just made an incredible case was why the people of South Carolina need a different governor. Yes. And there was a leak on the 17th two days ago that Alan Wilson's rally and formal announcement will be on Monday Monday the 23rd coming up on Monday He is announcing he's had exploratory going going for a while Okay, so he's in and he's in with money Monday the 23rd coming up says when will the people of South Carolina hear from you? About exploratory committee or definitive announcement. I don't do it just made a whole new case

Yeah, I don't do exploratory once. I'm in I'm all in 100% There's just all in I don't like the idea of exploratory I am still in session in DC. I'm still talking to family. I'm getting around the state listening to people and hearing where they are I'm not in a rush every poll that's out there I'm ahead in every poll which is not where you want to be when you're starting out running one or two And you want to be two or three? But I know that if I decide to do it, my sense is the people are going to be with me. I had a town hall last night. Democrats will tell you I never

have town halls. We had a town hall last night. We had 300, 300 people at least RSVP last night for this thing in kind of a remote part of Mount Pleasant, South Carolina. Everywhere we go, hundreds of people show up. They don't have that and I'm just making sure that I get my ducks in there With my family. I've got two kids I've got parents to think of and I'm spending some time with my children over the next couple weeks and we'll decide by the end of summer So I want to make sure when I if I do it I do it the right way. I run my own races I don't play by anyone's playbook. I don't care that he's announcing on Monday. I think it's a terrible time

He leaked that he was announcing two days ago on the 10 year anniversary of mother Emmanuel where nine black church members were murdered while they were reading scripture So I just the timing of it tone deafness I'm not in a rush because he's not gonna win but him getting in might force me to run because he cannot be governor I think you indirectly announced you run Take it as an indirect announcement. When I run, it was an indirect announcement that was made. But here's a question for you.

When you're as tough and strong and calling out and talking shit like you are, they're gonna come after you. They are. Okay, so what methods have they already taken to come after you and target you? Oh, they leak stories, they use quote anonymous sources, they try to get you investigated by the Ethics Committee, they make things up. In fact I can't I can't tell you how many times I've talked

to reporter, okay they're accusing you of doing this and I with seven anonymous sources and they're all disgruntled former employees because I fire people. I'm like Trump, if I don't think you're doing a good job or you're unethical you're gone. And so well we don't have the paperwork, we don't have a recording, we don't have a text, we don't have a receipts. They just said you did this. I'm like, well, show me the receipt. There was even a guy, and I'm getting ready to file a lawsuit on this today or tomorrow

or by Monday, who lied in a deposition to say I blackmailed somebody. And I literally have all the receipts I'm like, no, we didn't meet when you said we meet met No, that trip didn't happen the way you said it did. Nope I didn't wait to withhold evidence from law enforcement for a year and no I didn't hurt I didn't blackmail anybody. In fact, the guy that's alleging blackmail actually Allegedly attempted to black me me last year. Politics in South Carolina is a very dirty business. So these guys will do fake depositions

with fake subpoenas. In fact, this lawsuit they filed a fake fictitious company to file a fictitious lawsuit with fictitious defendants knowing they were targeting me and then had a guy lie under oath and subpoenaed that a subpoena that the judge never even approved and violated my civil rights but like I'm like I literally have to sue them now all of them and I'm doing that today or tomorrow to say here are the receipts buddy and here's where you lied but in South Carolina if you perjure yourself do you think that they go after you for perjury? If they're not going after pedophiles that are having three year olds have sex with animals it's like what the hell are we talking about?

So it's gonna be in public and all that but like that's why like I fight back and I'm like I'm suing people who need to be sued and I'm holding them accountable and I will talk about it in the most public place possible to hold people accountable because it might be the only justice and the only truth that I get which is why I am a fighter, like I don't wilt, I don't flee, I also have post-traumatic stress disorder, which is why sometimes I go off in those videos because I feel like when you're being attacked with you have PTSD, you either fight or you flee.

And I sure as hell am getting out of there alive. I'm the only one coming out alive, so I fight back. So that's what I'm doing. What is the story that says they, Nancy Mae shows nude photos of herself in house hearing as she says she was recorded without consent. Yeah, I did that in May, May 20th of this year. So about a year and a half ago I uncovered some things that were very disturbing including videos of me being recorded without my knowledge, without my permission, without my consent. I also identified other women that were recorded on this camera without their knowledge, without their permission, without their consent. And today, at a year and a half later, since I came forward to law enforcement with all this evidence, including metadata, photos, some video, and other evidence, no one's been arrested. And if that could happen to a member of Congress

and nobody lifts a finger, because this is against the law. What is this? This is a hearing I had an oversight about surveillance in private spaces and that's my body. You can see the silhouette. I mean, it's pretty tame. It's the silhouette.

You can tell that it's me and my long hair and everything. But to date, year and a half later, no one's been arrested. And to have to say as a woman, we want to be believed, we want people who've violated us. When this happens to you, and there were lots of videos and photos, I can't unsee what I've seen. When this happens to you, it feels like you're physically being raped. I have post-traumatic stress disorder of what I saw of myself that I had no idea was recorded and it's humiliating and I don't know was this

sold on the dark web? Was this going to be used to blackmail me in the future? I have no idea why this individual did this to me and he did this for years and I undercover my former fiance. Someone I was engaged to, someone I trusted, I gave him my life savings, I owned property with him. I found evidence going back a decade of upskirt photos, and I showed some of those in this hearing. And so, you know, I'm a key witness in investigation, I'm a key witness in a now a civil suit. One of the victims was allegedly sexually assaulted.

It was filmed, and I found it on his phone. And so I just, I'm- Is your ex-fiance conservative or is he, I'm assuming he's a conservative. I don't know what he is. I mean, I'm not gonna comment on him. The only reason I'm saying that is because to see if it's something that the opposition is using to,

cause they're gonna come after you, you're loud. You're loud, you're nonstop loud. And it's not like you're coming in like, hey, let me kind of relax and get to know everybody Like no, I'm here. Boom. You're full of shit. You're full of shit. I'm not gonna do this tranny tranny tranny. Hey What is a woman? Yeah always but the solicitor is very good friends with one of his attorneys who's representing two of the four people that I talked About in my floor speech in February, but you know, I have evident I have knowledge of our solicitor obstructing justice for me

and other women who are victims, either rape victims, allegedly, or victims of voyeurism in this thing. There's been evidence that's been leaked, and I believe it was the solicitor that leaked evidence to people who shouldn't have had it. And her, the solicitor, Scarlett Wilson, is her name. Her last big fundraiser, last year before her re-election, was headlined by attorney Jerry Theos. Jerry Theos is the attorney for two of the four predators who are being investigated

today. I have the invitation. I haven't made it public yet, but he reps my ex and one of his business partners in these cases. And so they're leaking stuff and leaking information, I believe. And I believe she's deserve justice. I just want you to do your job, follow the law, and put people in jail who've broken it. And you just can't, she doesn't want to prosecute rape cases, and there's a history of that in her office. She doesn't believe the victims.

She's got a political bias against me. Unfortunately, I'm the key witness because I found all this stuff, but she's got political bias against me And I believe I believe that we can puncture the seal of qualified immunity and scarlet wilson. I hope you're listening I Believe you can be sued I don't believe you can be protected by qualified immunity because of the way that you have inserted yourself into this investigation and have Obstructed the investigation. And if you get your shit together and do the right thing, there can be a different

conversation, but right now that's what it looks like. Wow. Scarlett A. Wilson. Oh yeah, she's, oh and Jerry Theos, the attorney for these guys in this investigation. How do you spell the last name? T-H-E-O-S. He was the attorney for the pedophile I mentioned, Donald Gresh, earlier. It's just this nasty, corrupt, everyone's scratching everybody's back, nobody wants to go to trial, there are no trials, you just plead down to the least common, least worst indictment, the easiest thing to indict on, nobody serves jail time, everybody gets rich. Either with your campaign or your law firm with your clients who you're defending who aren't going to jail

Are you are you planning on at any time to slow down and not take the approach that you're taking? No Okay, and this is gonna continue. Yeah, this is gonna continue as long as you know it and you know Oh, and they're coming after me. Let me tell you I mean if you're willing to file a Fictitious company to file a fictitious lawsuit and have someone lie under oath What else are you willing to do? But you know lawsuit and have someone lie under oath. What else are you willing to do? But you know I have a great legal team, I have great staff, I have a great platform and all I'm gonna do is tell the truth and the people can decide. But what I will tell you because I've come forward as a victim, as a key

witness in this thing, I'm learning about other cases like Scott Spivey's case. The family came to me. You know, these families are begging for help because there needs to be a trial in that murder case. There was a kid that was just run over with a car by someone who was mentally ill in Sullivan's Island, South Carolina. And the family's not being informed by their victim's rights advocate in South Carolina But when the hearings are for this guy in my case I didn't get a victims rights advocate for 11 months and guess what I had to go through the attorney general's office who denies He knew anything about it

I got my victims rights advocate through his office and one of the rape victims Didn't get her victims rights advocate until the day of my speech like an hour before my speech So it's just you know, and I've got people all over the state, hey, this case happened, this murder, this rape, this pedophile, I went to law enforcement, nothing happened. And when I was also physically assaulted on my way out, I have bruises all over the left side of my body

and I showed it to law enforcement and was told point blank, we're not gonna investigate it. Like if that's happening to me as a prominent member of the community, then what's happening to the little black girl in North Charleston when she comes forward? You know, victims are treated like criminals, criminals are treated like victims.

And that's what's going on. Which like, I'm gonna be begging the feds, I'm working on it, it's a really long letter, it's taken a while, but somebody's gotta take over the state and make right what's been so wrong in South Carolina. Well it sounds like the state's about to get a new governor that's what it sounds like. I hope like hell they are. Well let's see let's see what's going to happen but she's going to make the announcement here soon. All right so a couple

things yesterday Tucker had Ted Cruz on. 92 million I'm just going to say that there are 92 million people in Iran That is hilarious, but no he had Ted Cruz on is this one is this the clip which clip is this Rob? This is the population of Iran. Okay, go for it play this clip play this one by the way I don't know the population at all. No, I don't know the population You don't know the population at all. No, I don't know the population You don't know the population of the country you seek to topple How many people living around 92 million, okay? Yeah, how could you not know that I Don't sit around memorizing population tapes. It's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government Why is it relevant whether it will be because 90 million or 80 million or 100 million? Why is that relevant?

Because if you don't know anything about the country. I didn't say I don't know anything about the country. Okay, what's the ethnic mix of Iran? They are Persians and predominantly Shia. Okay, this is Q. No, you don't know anything about Iran. So actually the country. Okay, I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran.

You're a senator who's calling for the overthrow of the government and you don't know anything about the country. No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump. No, I'm not saying that. Who can't figure out if it was a good idea to kill General Soleimani and you said it was bad.

You don't believe they're trying to murder Trump? Yes, I do. Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. If you really believe that. Okay, we're carrying out military strikes today. You said Israel was. Right, with our help. I said we.

Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them. Well, you're breaking news here because the US government last night denied, the National Security Council spokesman Alex Pfeiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity at all. We're not bombing them. Israel's bombing them. You just said we were. We are supporting Israel. She's high stakes, you're a senator.

If you're saying the United States government is, now we're with Iran right now, people are listening. Your thoughts on this. Well, I learned that there were 92 million people in Iran, and by the way, over 60% of Iranians are Persian, it's 61%, and over 90% are Shia. So after that interview, I went to a table of population

to see what the makeup was. But Ted Cruz is right. There are actually three people, I just looked up their names, three people in federal custody currently for Iran has been trying to assassinate Trump. They had plans to. Asif Marchand, Carl Al Rivera, and Jonathan Loetholt are people that are in federal custody

right now as part of that. And also Iran also attempted to assassinate, they've also tried to assassinate other people. They are a real threat. Former secretaries, etc. have had those threats on their life. But I'm with Trump on this. I'm with Trump on the Iranian-Israel situation. I was in Israel a couple months ago, and I've been briefed on what Iran had and did not have at the time.

And I agree with Trump that I believe that they are close or were close to having a nuclear weapon. I believe, you know, timetables, depending on who would until you talk to, timelines might be slightly different, but everybody knows it's pretty close. And everybody knows where they're getting their sources from and what material Iran was getting from where all of that is known.

And it's been known for a long time. This is the closest they've ever been. And in fact, I was really pleased to see last night or in the middle of the night, Israel bombed Eirik, which is one of, or Iraq Iraq which is one of their nuclear facilities that had heavy water that's used, you get plutonium out of that. And I hope that Israel sees this till the end and that we're going to be there. I actually texted the president two days ago and he texted back and I told him that we

needed to take out their nuclear facilities. This is President Trump. Yeah. And even if we had to give them a 30,000 pound bunker buster to do it in the B2, I think we should do it. We have an opportunity now to put this to bed, and the world will be safer. And the media won't report on it now,

but there are major Gulf states who support Israel's effort. Nobody in their right mind wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. report on it now, but there are major Gulf states who support Israel's effort. Nobody in their right mind wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon. I also don't want our troops in Iran. I don't want no feet on the ground, no soldiers in Iran just like Ukraine. No. But if we need to provide some equipment like we did with Ukraine to Israel to finish the job, I'm okay with that.

But we have allies in the Middle East, large Gulf states who are supportive of this effort Casio, casa question. So um So Nancy and because I'm gonna give you what do you say to the people that have seen for instance? Be being at Yahoo for 40 years saying Iran is two weeks away from nuclear weapon two years later Iran is and now it's gone to the point where the people are questioning the intelligence because for instance if I want by you mind you BB is very very unlike in his own country there was about to be a revolution before October 7 happened what what do you say to the people that are like you know what just like when I was in the United States Air Force during

Bush I trust me one of the reasons I left was because they lied. They did lie. Bibi was one of the main voices saying Saddam Hussein has nuclear weapons and taking out Saddam would cause positive reverberations throughout the region. It did anything but. So what do you say to people that are like, hey listen, Israel, and I get it, he doesn't want anybody to freaking have nuclear weapons, especially Iran that says, you know, they're little Satan and we're big Satan. But what do you say to people that this story seems like it's the same story? That's one question and the second one is What is the plan for the regime change if you're going to go in there and take everybody out? We've talked about this. Is there a plan kind of behind the curtains?

That's like, okay Reza or somebody because if you just take everybody out those 92 million people are gonna be like Who what uh, what about us us so what do you yeah no I was with you on Iraq the whole weapons of mass destruction and what we did to our country taking away our liberties after that spying on Americans and everything and we were lied to the difference here this to me it feels different I have been briefed I have been in a skiff and heard some of the intel that has been acquired. Now, you know, different intelligence agencies

and countries might have a slightly different timeline, but it's all the same. They're very close based on, and that's what Trump said the other day, and I, based on what I've been briefed on, I believe that he is right. Now with regards to regime change, that's up to the Iranian people. Over 80% of the Iranian people do not want the Ayatollah and power. They're not, they don't want the molas, the IRGC, Khamenei, like they're not in on this. And so I have worked a lot of human rights around the world. I've worked a lot with Iranian former political prisoners. And my sense is with the Iranian people, one, they want a regime change.

There's a shadow government of people there that would take over, that want freedom, that want democracy, that want a non-nuclear Iran. You have the former king, as you mentioned, potentially. You have Miriam Rajavi as well. She's in Europe. There are leaders around the world and nearby that would want what the Iranian people want. If we, you know, I urge the president not to do a deal with the mullahs or with the Ayatollah. I just said, give them the bomb, give them the plane,

take out their nukes what we Know that they are doing this we know that they're violating their agreement and they've been doing it for years now They've been inching along but they're closer than they've ever been Because of places like Russia because of the Chinese who want to see this axis of evil and We can't we in Trump has said it for 15 years We can't allow them have a nuclear weapon. so if is your house to do it by hand and march into the mountains at Fordow and do it then do it like whatever it takes and I think naturally the regime will topple and there will be freedom loving

democracy loving Iranians ready to step in over 80% of them don't want here's the thing right if you can play the clip of Trump talking about he got a call from Tucker apologizing and they were going back and forth. Yeah, this is a right here. Watch this here, the exchange. Tucker's a nice guy. He called and apologized the other day because he thought he said things that were a little bit too strong.

And I appreciated that. And Ted Cruz is a nice guy. I mean, he's been with me for a long time. I'd say once the race was over he's been with me ever since right? But very simple. If they think that it's okay for Iran to have a nuclear weapon then they should oppose me but nobody thinks it's okay. People that don't want, I don't want to fight either, I'm not looking to fight, but if it's a choice between fighting and him having a nuclear weapon, you have to do what you have to do.

Maybe we won't have to fight. Don't forget, we haven't been fighting. And if Ted, I can't imagine that Ted Cruz said it's okay for Iran to have nuclear, including Tucker. I don't think Tucker says it's okay. The problem is then they get themselves into a thing. They don't want them to have nuclear, but then they say, well, we don't want to fight. Well, you're going to have to make a choice because it's possible that you're going to have to fight for them not to have nuclear. And it's interesting because I did

ask Tucker, I said, well, are you okay with nuclear weapons being in the hands of Iran? And he sort of didn't like that. He didn't want to really Iran. And he sort of didn't like that. He didn't want to really talk. But he sort of didn't like that. And I said, well, if it's okay with you, then you and I do have a difference. But it's really not okay with him. Therefore, you may have to fight.

And maybe it'll end. And maybe it'll end very quickly. But there's no way that you can allow, whether you have to fight or not, you can allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon because the entire world will blow up. What do you think about what you just said? Not going to let that happen. About not letting them have a nuclear weapon?

No, about the exchange. I mean, the whole thing. What do you think about what— I think, I mean, I do think Tucker called and did apologize. I mean, he can't, he's not going to have the president of the United States as an enemy. I think those conversations are happening and here's my thing, if it's factual proof, I love to see the proof of where they are at these stages. Like I and I'm not saying... The part I'm asking you is the following because there's one thing he said here. So he said, okay so you don't want them to have a nuclear weapon. All right so what if the only option is to fight to be able to have them get rid of nuclear

weapons, then what do we do? Let's just say everybody agrees they don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons. Minus five percent. I agree that I don't think Iran, with that leadership, should definitely not have a nuclear weapon. Okay, so let me ask you a question. At what cost? So is it, let them have nuclear weapons but we don't go to war?

Or look man, if you're not going to give up the nuclear weapon, we've got to go to war. No, I think first I want zero American troops on the ground at all. Because if it's going to escalate to that point, I don't want any United States. So perfect. So what you're saying is, again, this is okay. It's just your opinion. What you're saying is the fact that I would much rather have Iran have nuclear weapons with no troops going there, going to war.

No, no. I don't want them to have nuclear weapons if we have to get involved. What Trump is saying is, what if, that's his argument that he's making to Tucker. He's talking specifically to Tucker in this video. That's my impression of what I'm getting. He's saying, okay, Tucker, so what do we do? You don't want troops, no problem. And you don't want them to have nuclear weapons.

What if they don't want to negotiate because they're just not seeming like, here's a clip on what they just said. It says, Iran will never surrender. Israel made a huge mistake, says country's supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, this is what he's saying. Go ahead and play this clip rap Breaking news a brand new game is now live at bet365 introducing prize matcher a daily game That's never ordinary all you have to do is match as many tiles as you can and the more you match the better We also have top table games like our incredible Super Spin Roulette, Blackjack,

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Visit connexontario.ca, T's and Z's apply. The threat is not only a vulgar and unacceptable statement, but also an explicit demand that the Iranian people surrender to him. When a person observes these things, he is truly astonished. Threats have no effect on the mindset of the Iranian people. What is the surrender? The surrender of what? That Iran is not a nation of surrenders. We have not assaulted anyone, and we will not accept aggression from anyone.

Nor will we ever surrender to anyone. So you can pause it right here. So the question is the following. This is the difference between being a podcaster, being a pundit, being a person that just says what they say, this is my opinion, here's what I think, versus you're in the situation room. Since the president's been president for four and a half years, he was in the situation room one time,

in his first four terms, Rob, which was what? The first time was what? That he was in the situation room. Soleimani, right? Yes, Soleimani was the first time, and then last Friday following Thursday night's bombing in Iran was the second time that he had been in the situation room, and then earlier this week made the third second time that he had been in the situation room and then earlier this week made the third time.

So he's been in a situation three times, once in his first term, two times in the last week. Okay? Two times in the last week and a half, give or take. This is why I'm asking you. Don't think like a pundit. Don't think like a podcaster. Don't think about, let me say what it is to go viral because I want the community to

like and retweet and all that other stuff. Sometimes that's how the market thinks about it. Think about it from the standpoint. You were in the military, I was in the military. You're Air Force, I'm Army. Both of us were not supportive of the Iraq war. Spent trillions of dollars, wasted time, bullshit, it was full of it. They were just kind of using propaganda, 9-11, all this stuff.

I don't want to get deep into it. I've done plenty of interviews where people know where our position is with that. Don't support, they get a nuclear weapon. If you have to choose, you can't do one without the other. We do nothing, they get a nuclear weapon. Should we do anything? Should he attack the way he did with Ghassan Soleimani? Attack what?

Because here's my thing. So say Israel can't do it by themselves. Surgical? But here's my question. Do you Israel can't do it by themselves. Surgical? But here's my question. Do you think Israel doesn't have the capability to do this by themselves? I do too. So why do we have to get involved? No, I know.

All I'm saying to you is I think they do. Me too. And I want this to be their fight. 100%. To me, like when the boys are fighting, you've seen me when I'm with the kids. I'm like, listen, I'm out of this one. Go ahead and fight it out. It's up to you guys, right?

But if it gets to a point that I need to get involved, do I let them fight because I know one of my sons knows Muay Thai and allow him to beat the crap out of the other one? So at what point, if something happens that they're simply not willing to do it, should we get involved? Okay, see, okay. Now, if it's up to that point where they are and they're trying to move like that, then they're putting us in a situation that we have to. For right now, I think Israel can take it by themselves.

But watch what you just said, Vinny, very important, because when you and I talk, you're a reasonable, logical guy. So you just went to, if it gets to the point that shit could hit the fan, then no matter what on your list is, you don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons. I do not want, okay, period.

100%. I don't want them, I don't, with this leadership, this guy, that right there, burning the American flag, hell no. Hell no, but again, I am about, and I get it, he's in the situation room, the intelligence, if the intelligence is correct, coming from Israel, that they're there, that they're right there, and this is the attitude, up to a point,

let Israel do what Israel has to do, but if we have to get involved because they can't do it and this guy wants the nuclear weapon. You know what I would actually be saying to Netanyahu if I'm speaking to him? Here's what I would say. As who though? If I'm the president and he's asking me questions and saying,

hey, I need your help. You know what I'm going to say? What happened to the fact that you guys have the greatest military in the Middle East? I tell you guys have the greatest air force. I tell you, you have the greatest intelligence. the Middle East? I tell you guys have the greatest air force. I tell you guys have the greatest intelligence. Now I think what's important for the world stage is you'll go finish and show how strong you are.

You show power without anybody helping you out. You go do it. That's what I'm telling him. Why? Because that solves two things. What? One, problem was solved by me not using my tricks. Two, the world is now seeing that they did it. You take ownership of

what just happened there, what happened with Israel and Iran. But on the flip side, and I'm going to come to you here, Nancy, because I'm curious what you're going to say here. On the flip side of it here is where we hear stories that says, where's the story that Israel says they're asking troops for? Okay, Israel president calls on the world to help destroy Iran nuclear sites, right? And I think there's even one of them that's talking about he's asking America, is this it? Yes sir. Go for it, Rob.

There's a bigger picture here that the world and the American people should understand. We have to stop this empire of evil no more and tell them get the goddamn nooks out of your hands and start behaving in a decent way not be the rogue state you are all over the world is impossible what Israel like the president of Iran point join in Israel I'm sorry with direct offensive military action in the as you see the Israeli leadership is quite cautious. It's a decision that needs to be taken by the president and his team.

So obviously, we would welcome anything that helps eradicate the Iranian nuclear program completely, including the main two sides, the Ferdows and Natanz. Pause it right there. This goes to Israel. We are hitting Ferdows withow with or without US, bunker busters, right? This is a, do you have that story right there? There's a clip on it right here Rob and Nancy I'm coming to you right after this. If you have this clip Rob, there's a clip that says Israel we are hitting Fordow. So go for it.

For the Iran, the possibility of an Iran deal, is the destruction or the dismantling of the Fordow nuclear enrichment center, is that a prerequisite for a deal? Is that a red line for you? No, it's just something that people talk about having. We're the only ones that have the capability to do it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to do it at all. Yeah, we have the best military equipment in the world. You see that with this fight. We have planes that are undetectable, flying around like, you know, nobody's able to see them stealth. You guys want to be stealthy tonight. You know, you can be stealth, you'll never lose, right? But these are incredible planes and weapons. We have the best weapons in the world by far, nobody close. And we're,

we're, I mean, certain countries take advantage of that. Israel has incredible weaponry. So, we'll see what happens. I have not, I've been asked about it by everybody, but I haven't made a decision. Israel National Security Vice-Chair Kenabe stated in an interview, Channel 12, Israel's operation against Iran will not end without damaging Fordow nuclear facility, which is 90 meters underground and houses thousands of uranium-enriched centrifuges.

He acknowledges, I don't know if the US will join, noting ongoing talks with the US, but no effort to persuade them. Conventional wisdom suggests that US bunker-busting bombs can destroy Fordow as Israel lacks such munitions and strategic bombers. That's the tricky question right there. Go for it. So number one, I just want to say I trust Donald Trump.

I don't think he's going to do anything without seeing it for himself. The intel, he's not George W. Bush. I mean he knows what he's doing, knows what he's talking about, he knows what he's seen and if they tell him, hey, this is what's happened, he's gonna wanna say, show me, right? And so he won't make a decision, I believe, without all the facts and information and Intel number one, number two. I think Israel, their heaviest bunker buster is 5,000 pounds.

Like they might, they've even admitted today, I believe, that they might need to go in using humans if the US doesn't help. We have, as you all know the b2 Aircraft that are needed to drop heavier bunker busters. We have a 30,000 pound Bunker buster bomb which would you need a couple of them? Do the trick we think it would do the trick you might I don't know if you need anything more than that, but we have Definitely have equipment and munitions that would work that Israel might need to use it

I'm okay with us doing that if that's what Trump decides that doesn't mean we have troops on the ground I think we can do it without but but lastly deposit this idea if you're on if we allow Ron to get a nuclear weapon We either fight now or we fight later because Iran's going to drop that nuclear bomb on Israel or somewhere else no matter what. They've stated that. They've told us what they're going to do. So we're going to war. Now we're going to war later.

Let's do it without troops on the ground. Much better, safer for everybody because there's going to be war with Iran no matter what, whether it's right now or whether it's 10 years from now twenty years from now whenever that happens They're gonna drop a nuke and there's gonna be World War three We avoid World War three with doing watching Israel Israel take the lead do it If they need some of our missiles or bombs, I hope that we provide it and keep our troops out of it That's the ideal situation in my opinion thoughts. So I out of it. That's the ideal situation in my opinion. Tom, thoughts?

So, I also trust President Trump and the decision here is very straight. It's like, Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb. Part one, Israel gets challenged or told, look, you got your military, you got everything like this and you got a lot of stuff from us, you got some of the best stuff from us, go do it. And it said, well, we need this and this. a lot of stuff from us, you get some of the best stuff from us, go do it." And he said, well, we need this and this. Okay, well, you give that. And that's where the slippery slope starts. That's when the French were flailing in Vietnam.

Well, we'll provide some advisors. Well, we'll provide limited assault infantry support. Well, we'll do this. And all of a sudden you find yourself in it. Where I don't want to be, I don't want to be boots on the ground where I don't want to be I don't want to be boots on the ground I don't want to be in it, but if we've got the best delivery mechanism to be to Delivery platform and we've got the best bunker buster bombs

Although I've seen all the diagrams of this and I've bunker buster bombs Tom Is that the one that goes is three phases one? Right it is a very can you break down to the audience what the Bunker Buster Bomb? It's designed to go, it's delayed fuses in multiple levels and it's designed to build a hole for itself and then have the bigger explosion down in the hole once it's there.

And the design is when you have an enemy deep underground and building bunkers, you have to get through all the soil down to a level to provide a dramatic explosive concussion downward. And what Representative Meister is just talking about is Israel's got 5,000 pound bunker bunters. Now a 30,000 pound bunker buster, I mean that's 15 tons of trouble that comes down, initial explosion, delayed fuses, and then the massive explosion. Now, what if it doesn't do it?

What if it doesn't do it? And you've got this tunnel that goes deep into the mountain, see, see, they go penetrating in and then, and now what have you got? You got, okay, who's gonna be Luke Skywalker and fly to the center of the Death Star and put the bomb down this long tube that goes down? And so the question really is,

is what if the Bunker Busters don't work? What if these things are so deep? Do you have to put basically elite infantry on the ground to get there and to go all the way through this thing? Do you have to assault Fodor? Israel has elite infantry. Oh yeah. That's my point.

Yeah, and it's like support them. But if the bunker busters don't work, Israel has to go in with elite ground troops to go down these tunnels Penetrate the whole thing and then do it Do it down deep and that's that's where it gets nervous for me But it goes back to my first point you may not have nuclear weapons and you've built this facility and one way or another this facility has to be compromised and I Like the idea of helping and supporting I hate the idea of doing it. Yeah, so that's so funny That is so weird. So regardless they need our weapons, but they got the soldiers they need our weapons

But they got enough of you know, it might be one of our pilots to fly the plane. Yeah I'll just say it's not you. I don't even think I had didn't they not elite? Then he helped me out Didn't they not elite? Vinny, help me out. Didn't they get elite soldiers of their own, the equivalent of Green Berets, in, and they created drone launch points? For two years. Oh yeah, guys, let's not forget.

Yeah, they had a factory, a drone factory in Iran. In Iran, let's not forget. And by the way, they put pagers in Hamas. Guys, they are so advanced, and I don't even think it needs to get to any troops, not even Israeli. The technology they have from the air is absolutely ridiculous. It's one of the best in the world.

It's just if they have it, get it over with. Knock out the freaking facilities. I don't want any human beings dying as less as we can and just get this guy out. We have to get this Khomeini guy out of power. That type of mentality and That type of mentality, that type of leadership, it's not helping. Anybody that's saying death to America, it's only a matter of time until that guy does something stupid to us. I'm not worried about the people that say it. I'm worried about the people that build

capabilities to do it. Oh no, but mind you though, that guy, that guy that's saying death to America, how many of those people through the open border for four years you think are here, Nancy, waiting, waiting for that call? Because a lot of them were giving cell phones, they're all, go, here's money, go stay wherever you're staying. Thomas Holman said, we're going to have, he said this from his mouth, the borders are, we have something that's going to be coming that's going to be worse than 9-11. Sleeper cells can create low technology havoc on citizens.

That's horrifying. Did you see this funny exchange when the guy, when the lady's asking, so when are you going to be attacking Iran? Did you see that one clip of Trump and Trump's like, oh yeah, because I'm going to tell you, of course I'm going to tell you. Oh yeah, what time is it? Watch this here. It's about whether you are moving closer, or you believe the U.S. is moving closer to

striking Iranian nuclear facilities. Where's your mindset on that? I can't say that, right? You don't seriously think I'm going to answer that question. Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component? And what time exactly, sir? Sir, would you strike it? Would you please inform us so we can be there and watch?

I mean, you don't know that I'm going to even do it. You don't know. I may do it, I may not do it. I mean nobody knows what I'm gonna do. So funny. He's the best. It makes you miss Donald Rumsfeld when Donald Rumsfeld. We don't miss Donald Rumsfeld. No. I don't miss him at all. No, no, no. I mean I don't miss what he did. But there was a moment what he said was actually

kind of funny, where he was told, you know, they're gonna be protesting against Americans and everything. On Saturday, it's a big demonstration in the middle of the street. He says, so a large group of Al-Qaeda in the middle of the street at noon on Saturday are gonna be demonstrating.

Yes, sir, and he said, would you happen to have the coordinates? That's actually pretty smart. I don't know if Donald Rumsfeld's ever gotten a shout out here Folks I don't give him a shout out for that. I'm just saying in the annals of politicians at the microphone I Think that's qualified as a shout out Alright, let me go to the next thing here while this is happening. happening, Trump reveals that he knows exactly where Iran's Supreme Leader

is hiding, won't take action for now as he convenes with leaders in the Situation Room. It's an easy target. We know exactly where he is. It's an easy target. We're not going to kill him, take him out, kill, at least not for now, but we don't want any missile shot at civilians or American soldiers our patience is wearing thin Thank you for your patience attentions to this matter It's like a memo

But and what's craziest with all this stuff or some of you guys are the gamblers You know betting odds Iran's leader Khomeini's ou. This year just skyrocketed, according to media. Check this out. Rob, if you can pull up that story here. You can bet on anything nowadays. Oh no, there's definitely this going on. President Trump posted on social media, we know exactly where he is, supremely Nazi, easy target, but say we're not going to take him out.

Not funny, but now we'll just, okay. And demanded unconditional surrender. Polymarket reported, traders project Khameneini will be removed from power this year over 60% chance of it happening. That is insane with odds jumping from 22 to 60% Since Israel strikes on Iran began. Look at this just in the last and it was declining January, February, March, April, May, declining. Boom! Skyrockets Look at this just in the last and it was declining January February March April May declining boom skyrockets Polymarket social media state of breaking things are not looking good for supreme leader of Iran as Trump demands an unconditional

Surrender and later odds Iran's supreme leader out this you just skyrocket deciding Trump post calling I told Ali common a an easy target a platform defines Khamenei resigns, is detained or otherwise loses his position or is prevented from fulfilling his duties as Supreme Leader of Iran by December 31st of 2021. So this is not about just getting killed. Resign, step away. There was even rumors that Khamenei was leaving a country, a lot of his leaders were leaving a country, even there was a story yesterday that Ahmadinejad was killed, we immediately got a message from his camp saying, please make sure you tell the people, we're not killed, I'm still

around here, that was a false alert. But what do you think about this polymarket Khomeini, what do you think is likely that the regime is going to change here before 2026? I'm surprised it's only 61%. Really? Oh yeah, the Iranian people, as soon as he's out, I do believe they're going to rise up. You have young women protesting in the streets in Iran taking their hijabs off. I mean, they are, these young Iranian people are heroes and they are just ready for their

moment and I think their moment is going to get here sooner than anyone else believed. Well, this came out yesterday. Rob, can you put the full tweet so we can read what the tweet says? Oh, I have to grab that. Yes. You just go to his account and you'll see it. But he posted this video yesterday and said specifically the future looks bright for the Iranian people, something like that with his tweet and then put a video video up that I think got 20 million views if I'm not mistaken.

A lot of commentary with that. Can you translate that one? Not that one. There's one in the, go a little bit lower Rob. That's the one. Okay, so Islamic Republic has come to an end and is falling. What has begun is irreversible. The future is brighter and together we will navigate through the sharp turn in history.

Now is the time to stand. it is time to take back Iran May I be with you soon and if I'm not mistaken was he in Israel yesterday Rob? Can you pull up that clip? There's a clip of him being in Israel Walking around I think is this recent do you know what the timeline of this is Rob? I'm not sure of the timeline, but this is the clip okay play the clip This is him in... Might be old, Pat. Could it be old?

I think. He's in Israel. You're at the wall. Yeah, he's at the wall. Like it looks kind of peaceful. I mean, the idea would be a little bit crazy. Question is, I don't know if this is, so you're saying this is maybe in the past when he did this.

So, who knows? It's, you know, a lot of people are saying that he's going to be returning to Iran. Some are saying it's going to be some folks internally, but regardless, Nancy, what you're saying is you're thinking this thing is going to get done sooner rather than later. I do, because if they take out the Supreme Leader and they've taken out all of his top brass, there will naturally be a regime change. The people are not going to tolerate this again. They're just they're tired of it

There are so many political prisoners That are out now. They're gonna rise up. I do believe they will rise up. I believe this is different I could be wrong and we could back here a year from now be like groveling I'm so sorry. I was wrong, but I don't think that's I mean, I hope that's not where we're gonna be But I just that they're ready There are leaders that are sitting in the wings, not just the former king, but there are other leaders within the free Iran movement who are ready to step forward and the people like they want democracy.

Is Congress fairly aligned on the same page on this issue? Would you say most of Congress and Senate, even left and right, are they mostly aligned on this issue or no? I would say no. On the left or on the right? Yeah, I just think it's going to be mixed bag on both sides. Even on the conservative side? Yes, well because we're all coming from 20 years plus of forever wars, we've relied to

weapons of mass destruction, taking Saddam out was the worst thing we could have done. We've all seen that and we're paying billions of dollars to the Taliban now because of George W. Bush in Afghanistan and how all that went down. Nobody wants to see that again. But the Iranian people, it's it's a different country with different people, different values, and they are modern. are, you know, savvy. I think it's a much more modern Gulf state if given the opportunity. Look where they were in the 70s. There was a normal country back in the late 70s. I mean, and so I think that's where they, that's where that's their history. That's where they come from. That's what they want their future to be. It was Dubai before there was Dubai, except with a massively rich history of a couple thousand years old.

Thomas Massie, how was your relationship with Massie? It's fine. Okay. So Massie, this is the part where you see some folks on the camp, they're like on Massie side. Massie, a Kentucky Republican, announced on X, this is not our war. Even if it were, Congress must decide such matters according to our Constitution. I'm filing a resolution with a bipartisan group led by Ro Khanna to block unauthorized hostilities

against Iran, introducing a House resolution under the War Power Resolution of 1973 to prevent President Donald Trump from engaging in unauthorized hostilities in or against Iran. Co-sponsored include representative Kro Khanna, California, Don Byer from Virginia, Craig Cesar from Texas, AOC New York, Nidia Velasquez of New York, Lloyd Dugget of Texas, Chewie Garcia of Illinois, Delia Ramirez, I'm probably butchering some of these names, Pramila Jayapal of Washington, Summer Leah, Pennsylvania, Jim McGovern of Massachusetts, Iana Presley of Massachusetts, Ilhan Omar, Rashid Taleb. I mean, Massey is on the side of Rashid Taleb, Ilhan Omar, and AOC on this resolution.

Uniting Massey with progressive Democrats seeking to hold US military involvement in Iran-Israel conflict with moderate New York representative Mike Lora opposing it, stating Monday, if AOC and Massey are yes, that's a good bet that I'll be a no. I'll wait to see the resolution, but I'm skeptical. Massey has a massive following, a lot of people on his side. What are your thoughts on this? Well, he's right,

technically on the war powers part of it. There is the War Powers Act, the president does have to go to Congress and ask permission to go to war, that is a thing. I disagree with the first half of the premise of the document, and in this case, when we're talking about Middle Eastern policy, military policy, and Iran having nukes, I am not going to be on the side of Ilyana Presley, AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar.

I'm not with them, because we all know what they want, and I want none of that. But he's right on the war powers part of it. The president is supposed to come to Congress and get a vote, make the ask. And I'm, I respect that and believe that he should do that. Put your vote on the board, let the people know where you stand. What do you think of the length if they put the vote out there? You think it will favor him? I think it's hard to say at this point because there are Republicans who are against any involvement.

There are people like me who don't want boots on the ground, but I'm okay giving them a bomb. I think there's a nuance here and a balance. I think we could get there, but I think it would be hard. Is giving them munitions an act of war? It would be seen as an act of war? Does he have to go to... It would be seen as an act of war. So once we get involved even at the level of, hey, here's a 30,000 pound bomb, we're in war. And for decades now, you know, especially during the forever

wars in the Middle East, like no president went to Congress to ask to do any of this. So it would be best if it were, if we followed the law of all the constitution and we do that, that would be the best case scenario. But no president has done that. Not in the last 20 years, no. 30 years, no. So they're breaking the law, like they're all breaking the law by going. That's Washington.

What do you think's going on up there? Nobody's following the law. We're thinking everybody's a law abiding citizens and politicians, you know, everybody has the right statesman motives. No, people's rights are violated every day in this country. We need law and order. That's why Trump is president. He's bringing it to the country.

I think we take a look back that there's been two ways that we've handled things internationally. Ronald Reagan goes on microphone and says, we're gonna take an action in Grenada and they're doing it and they're doing it under my signature and I got support from Congress and then you've got the United Fruit Company and the United Fruit Company for decades you know who I'm talking about LGBTQ oh you mean fruit no company that my bad just

go sorry it's okay easy mistake the United Fruit Company is the CIA and Oliver North and the Iran Contra, arms thing. And so we've aided things internationally that way. But this way right now, this is not the United Fruit Company and CIA. This is front and center. And I agree with restraining the war powers part of this saying, but I disagree with preventing us of giving Israel the right tool to do the job. Because would you like to know who is provided? What is the number? Maybe you know, you've been at briefings.

82% of the arms in Israel is our stuff, the good stuff. And it's the really good stuff. It's not the old F-4 Phantoms that you could hear at two days before you can see it. This is like real planes with real advanced technology forward and so we're providing this, we sell this to Israel and provide it as a part of foreign aid in hardware, so what is the difference of supplying them

with access to a B2 and a Bunker Buster? I draw the line right there. I don't want the president, without going under the War Powers Act, to act properly. I bet I don't want our guys on the ground over there. Yeah, I think everybody here agrees on that. The only thing that, for the first time, we all agreed on here, is that the The only thing that for the first time we all agreed on here is that

the number one is what? You don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons. No nuclear weapons. At all costs. Preferably without our involvement, them doing it. Are you okay if we supply weapons to them if they need the weapon to get rid of Fordow? If he goes to Congress and gets the approval, yeah. How about he doesn't go to Congress and get the approval? I mean it's breaking the law. I want it to be done the right way.

Me personally, I want it done the right way. You know what, it's in the annual budget, the foreign aid to Israel is in the annual budget and a lot of that foreign aid is military stuff that's already been approved by Congress. We provide them stuff every Monday they ship stuff. So you have to think about that. But the problem is they need our pilot to do Buster so that's that's where the War Powers Act even if it's one pilot were involved Yeah, we're involved so like it's one thing to sell your munitions sell your missiles sell the equipment

We do that when we give Israel on the NDA the National Defense Authorization Act three to four billion dollars a year Previous to October 7th. We've done more than that. So they do get equipment, they do, we do all that, but once you put, they have to have our pilot and our plane to do it. And so that's where the War Powers Act comes in. At Desjardins Insurance, we know that when you own a law firm, your bar for everything is high. That's why our agents go the extra mile to understand your business and provide tailored solutions for all its unique

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we go. Listen, X is going to go bonkers with the messaging there. There's a lot of people right now that are like, Dave Smith I think said the other day, Dave Smith is one of the better debaters out there in the marketplace. He said he voted for Trump and he asked Trump to be impeached. This is what he said a few days ago. I don't know if you saw this. Go for it, Ryan.

I supported him this last year. I apologize for doing so. It was a bad calculation at the time. It seemed like the right one. But he should be impeached and removed for this one. And not on some ridiculous Nancy Pelosi. Of course, the Congress will never do it because they're all a bunch of corrupt acts. This is the one thing they support.

This is like, yeah. Donald Trump should be impeached and removed for this. All of his supporters should turn on him. It's the absolute betrayal of everything that he ran and campaigned on and everything that he stood for. And I will say, despite the fact that, you know, Donald Trump supporters have been labeled like a cult following, and that certainly is true for a percentage of his supporters, he is going to lose his coalition over this. There, there, I, I know, I, I don't just speak

for myself when I say there are a lot of us who simply will not go along with this. So it's just a devastating mistake. By the way, on top of that, he's also going to lose the deportation fight because of this, Because right now he needed all the political capital he could have to turn that you know, you got a majority support for deportations, but the minority is very mobilized and they're out and they're protesting all around the country. He needed all of his political capital for that move. So here's what we got the neocons win more war abroad and you know, bomb the world and invite the world. No matter who you vote for, you always get

John McCain. What do you think about what he said? He's wrong. I don't think... impeached for what? There's nothing that Trump has done that's impeachable and he's not made a decision on what he's going to do yet. So I think that that statement was premature because Trump hasn't decided and we don't know is it going to be a very surgical thing or are we going to provide the missiles and bombs that are needed or not. And so very premature. I think what Trump is doing with the deportations helps him, not hurts him.

I think the riots that are happening around the country that he referenced don't hurt him. It helps Republicans. It helps MAGA. It helps Donald Trump. It helps us in our midterm elections in 26 and the presidential election in 28. If you are willing to burn your city down because the president wants to follow the law, you're going to lose elections for a very long time. So I think he has misread the situation. And Trump has even said for 15 years, Iran can't have nukes.

Now, he doesn't want to be there, I don't want to be there, but if they need a bomb, I'm okay with giving them a bomb. I don't want our men and women on the ground. There's a very big difference, I think, and you all serve, not me, but I think there's a very big difference in that. So by the way, remember, It's very interesting what she said if you think about technicalities Nancy and us we don't want man on the ground if it's a pilot. It's not really a man on the ground There's no boots on the ground in the sky. I don't want any man on the ground, but I wouldn't mind a couple boots

We almost may have to See that 30,000 pound Bunker Buster. I mean I Who's in the plane? I want to see that 30,000 pound bunker buster. I mean, I want to see it work. I want to see it work. It's going to be bonkers is what is going to happen. Trick the Democrats with their own techniques. And so we'll have Colonel Smithers says at this moment, I identify as an Israeli.

And I'm not a neocon. I have co-sponsored many a war powers resolution. I believe in following the letter of the law and I did not believe neocon, like I have co-sponsored many a war powers resolution, like I believe in following the letter of the law and I did not believe in the forever wars. This is just different. Okay, all right, well let's read this about immigration. Watch this number here. Some people are going to be disappointed with this.

Okay. U.S. may lose more migrants than it gains for the first time in 50 years. This is from Daily Mail. Economist Wendy Edelberg told the WAPO for a year as a whole 2025, we think it's likely immigration will be negative, predicting the U.S. will lose more migrants than it gains for the first time in 50 years due to Trump's policies, including revoking legal status, threatening international student deportations and cracking down on illegal southern border crossings.

ICE Director Todd M. Lyons stated, with just 100 days into this administration, and thanks to President Trump and Secretary Noem, ICE is using every tool at its disposal to enforce our country's immigration laws with 66,463 undocumented migrants arrested and 65,682 removed in Trump's first 100 days. Trump's border crackdown reduced customs and border protection encounters to 12,035 in April, down from 179,737 from prior year. What was that sound?

I was like, oh, I thought you sneaked. You almost, Tom was at a heart attack. I'm okay, I'm still with you. Wild deportation surge with over 50,000 migrants and ICE detention centers by June 5th. This is NBC News June 17th. And by the way, I don't know if you saw the New York Post story from three days ago, a million people have self-deported.

Oh yes, I saw that. So does this concern you that we're going to have a net migration number this year? No, I think it's great. But the thing is, the media and the mainstream media want to blame Trump. These are not Trump policies. This is the letter of the law. This is our country's own laws. And if you don't follow the law in your country, you don't have a country at all. It's just like the state of South Carolina. We don't follow the laws in South Carolina. We don't have a state. So he's just following the letter of the law. But also, it also, while we're deporting, we also recognize there are jobs that need to be filled, that Americans need the opportunity to

fill. If we can't fill them, then we need people to come here with work visas, come here legally, work, go back home. We have a lot of that actually in my district because we're heavy tourism. For nine months out of the year, we're bringing in Jamaicans and from other countries and they're doing food and bed industry for nine months. They go home for three months. They come back. It works really well. But no, he's doing the country a service and a favor.

I love what he's doing. I love the self-deportation. I love the gold card. Bring your money here. Get citizenship. Five million bucks. Bring your here with your five million bucks. I gotta love it. Tom, you made a look, Tom. What was that look about? You made a look like you disagree with what she said.

I saw it in the side eye. Did you hear the noise? I felt it. I saw it in the side eye. I was like. Not gonna lie. Nancy, respectfully, I'm a married man. He's been trying to avoid looking at you the entire podcast because he doesn't want, he

wants to stay as focused as possible go ahead Tom. No I think this is good this is good it's neutral right the ones removed and the ones that came in lawfully it's neutral whether it's a temporary work visa or not. Tom you made a look tell us what that look was. Yeah it was she felt it as well. Oh she I just straight up heard it we felt it. What was the look about? I don't know she was talking about the Jamaicans and the seasonal labor, which I'm in favor of.

You're making me crazy, Tom. What was the look about? She said it was hospitality. So what Jamaican? Margaritas, probably. Got it. What do you think about it? When you think about it, there's a couple ways to look at this.

If I'm the enemy, if I am on the opposite side, like I would literally use this if I'm on the Democratic side. If I'm on the liberal side, I'm saying think about you have a restaurant that for nearly 249 years, everybody wanted to come to this restaurant, but we don't have room in this restaurant, right? And then all of a sudden a new leader comes in, and now people are no longer coming to the restaurant, they're leaving to the restaurant across the street. Let's just say if they're going to spin that, right?

Because that's a way of spinning it on the opposite side. Is this something that the opposite side can spin and say, look what we've done to the country that immigrants no longer want to come to America because they don't think the American dream is real? Do you process it that way, Tom? Tom Hanks No, I don't, because I would invite them to come and look because they don't think the American dream is real. Do you process it that way Tom? No I don't because I would invite them to come and look at the asylum applications. My understanding is asylum applications from our level year over year meaning the people that are there I'd like to

immigrate from this country where I'm seriously persecuted and here's my evidence to it and my understanding that there is still that, right? We're not closing the wall at the border. We're allowing people to come through the door and be checked and to do it lawfully. That's simple. Give us your tired, your poor lives on, but let's do it legally.

And if you need asylum, if you're being persecuted, we've got procedures for that Come over and so I look at this and what it says to me is that the uncontrolled immigration issue of the Biden administration is coming under control to be the lawful immigration according to the pre-existing laws that are being enforced by a new sheriff in town and his name is Donald Trump and he's not making new laws, he's enforcing the ones he was elected to enforce. Okay, Tom was woken up. That's all I wanted.

Amen, that's what we were waiting for Tom. That's some fire right there. That was like a scene. That was fire. That was a scene from old school where Will Ferrell is debating and then they ask him a question and he's like, I just came out of it, but it was fire. That was a scene from old school where Will Ferrell is debating and then they ask him a question. And he's like, I just came out of it, but it was great. So Tom, a couple of things before we wrap up. Nancy, I want to get your thoughts on this as well.

I'm sure you're a big fan of this guy, Jim Acosta, former CNN star, slammed for a vile joke about Trump's dead ex-wife. What a title in the first place. I mean, look how low you've gotten where you're going here. Jim Acosta on the Contrarian podcast, No Kings Day Parade, remarked on President Donald Trump's immigration policy saying, where are the ICE raids at Trump's properties? Could somebody call ICE on Trump's golf course in Virginia? You're telling me there's nobody in there that's undocumented or some of the kind of squirreliness going on on their

paperwork. Then reference Trump's late ex-wife, Ivana, stating he's got one buried at his golf course in New Jersey. What a talks like this. Isn't she buried at the first time? I don't even want to say this. Play this. I don't want to read this. Watch this clip. Look at these people. I got a question though. Where are the ICE raids at the Trump properties? Can call ice on on the Trump golf course in Virginia Yes, telling me there's nobody in there that is undocumented or has some kind of swirling that's going on with their paperwork Give me a break. Hey, how many how many immigrants is he married? He's got one buried at his golf course in New Jersey

She buried by the first hole or the second T or something like that The jobs that Americans don't want to do How do you respond to that That's I mean, that's embarrassing and it's disgusting. I mean they just They they hate him so much. They just can't help themselves, which is why they're going to continue to lose I'm i'm kind of like, okay, say that. Put it on a microphone. Air it everywhere.

I agree. Every YouTube channel. I'm with you. OnX, play that way, because all it's going to do is to bring more independents and more former Democrats into the Republican Party tent. Yep. And we need them. And we need them.

And you nailed it. Well, furthermore, just that shot shot right there Rob, just that thumbnail. Look at it. Angry black woman. I don't even know what she is. I don't know, male, whatever that is. Crazy lit. And then Jim Acasa, and you're right Nancy, you got to give, I actually love the guy,

it's because of him that Donald Trump at that press conference said, I'm not going to give any questions. You're fake news. It was born because of that hack now that's in a sub stack. I think Gavin Newsom's in it. Once you hear I'm doing a sub stack, it's over. Nobody wants to see your face anymore. And what they have done, and I've seen this with young people.

I have two teenage kids. They have made this young generation more conservative than you and I could ever imagine. I mean like they're following Ben Shapiro. They're crazy about Charlie Kirk. They love MAGA. I mean, it is incredible because they see the way they've been treated growing up, and they're like, no, no more, not doing this.

And they see the hero that Trump is, and that kind of attitude, those kind of comments have made this next generation more conservative than any of us here at this table today and I am grateful for it. Thank God. Gotta love it. Well listen, thanks to Jim Acosta, we have fake news. Last thing I want to wrap up with this story because I'm also curious to know what you

guys think about this in DC. So for the longest time when you're campaigning, it's about going on Fox, going on CNN, going on MSNBC, going on all these different places, right? So streaming surpasses combined broadcast and cable viewing for the first time ever. New York Times said it's official, streaming is now the king of TV. Damn, that's pretty wild. And by the way, I got an announcement

that I'll make, maybe Tom will say it before I say it, but here we go. So, streaming, okay. Nielsen's Tuesday report revealed that in May, streaming services, accounted for a higher share of television viewing than cable and broadcast networks combined and John Koblen noting it is the first time that has happened over a full month in 2021, streaming held 26% of TV time compared to nearly two thirds of cable and broadcast. A gap that has now closed and streaming surpassed traditional TV viewership in just four years. Viewers over 65 who represented one third of total TV viewing drove the shift with Nielsen stating their YouTube watch time last month

grew 106% from May of 2023, equaling the viewing hours of children under 11 years old. Since 2023, this age group has been the fastest growing for YouTube and TV sets, particularly favoring free non-subscription platforms like YouTube. The surge of streaming was initially led by younger viewers, but the adoption by older viewers who watch more television than any other group solidified the overtake as older viewers have been moving to streaming in droves in the last few years. How do you guys view as you're campaigning, as you're going, you're doing your thing,

is it still the talks about going on Fox, going on mainstream or is everybody bought into the fact that the way to do it is podcasts, different YouTube channels to go on? I do a lot less mainstream media now. I get an ABC News or CBS News request and I'm like, yeah, I'm good. to do is podcasts, different YouTube channels to go on. I do a lot less mainstream media now. I get an ABC News or CBS News request. I'm like, I'm good. I do Fox News though, still. I think they've got a great reach,

their online reach as well. But last year, I run my own races when I had my campaign. We only did cord cutters for the TV. We did just streaming only and some digital stuff. We didn't do any, I didn't do cable or broadcast really, any of that, hardly. I put more of my effort into streaming and in fact, like Spotify to, I mean, YouTube to reach

every possible audience I could because of all the cord cutters. I'm in a pretty, I think wealthy, modern district. We have a lot of cord cutters and that's where I focused most of my investment when I got my reelection. I won by a larger margin last year than I ever have. How big was the margin? 27%, 26, 27% in my primary Republican primary.

I had somebody spend over 7 million against me in that race. It was tough. And then my general election, I won by 18 points. Now, mind you, four years ago, I won by one. I flipped a Democrat seat. So I won by one the first time four years ago. By my re-election this past year, I won by almost 20. And the primary used seven million against you.

Over seven million was spent against me. Over one vote. Wow, Tom. Well, first of all, congratulations for that. We know Beth Van Dyne. She had a similar experience where she won by a razor as Pelosi was pouring money into Dallas 24. And then when the vote was counted the next one, she destroyed them once they saw what she was going to do.

What's interesting here, we'll give you a little focus group on this. We had dinner just the other night with a prominent, well we won't name names, but a prominent, very prominent media individual from the agency side in LA. And he talked about his older parents have two TVs. One his mom was watching YouTube and watching podcasts and the other one they had basically general news on all day. But there was people over 65 sitting there watching it. And that's similar for my mom My mom watches on the small and so now the words talk number scream and you've got now

streaming is The battles over because you're looking at stats that are looking you know 60 90 days in the past and what's happening going forward is the the cable subs are going down you see it every quarterly report that the Comcast makes and your DirecTV a shell of its old previous self and so now you've got the new audiences are choosing podcasts and more importantly is they see the podcast as sources of more authenticity and they're increasingly skeptical of what's

going on. We know CNN's for sale. It's just been packaged up in a little package and they're going to spin it on the stock market as a separate company. That's where they're going with that. By the way, when they were trying to sell CNN, they actually said, don't worry about the contracts. We'll mitigate the contracts and we've got Caitlin basically on on the rookie deal only at about $3 million a year.

So they're even selling against themselves and the era of high dollar Anderson Coopers are over. You know, those contracts are going to be out, they're going to be cut. And then you're like, Jim Acosta has to go find an audience on a freaking podcast. He can't, he can't say that on mainstream media because they won't have him on. So even he is nerfing for moisture looking out on a podcast trying to find some place that will let him speak. So I think this is a wonderful thing but more than just the shift to cord cutters, it is

a shift of America looking for authenticity and looking for opinion that they can trust. Did somebody give you like two additional cups of coffee last seven minutes, 11 minutes? Some happened. I'm out of coffee! That was spot on. That was spot on. Where did it go? It was spot on.

Did you hear about what Netflix announced? No, what Netflix announced. So Netflix has got 350 million viewers, right? Massive. Now they're talking about, they're thinking about getting into the podcast game. Really? So imagine now you're watching Netflix

and you're like, let me watch Rogan, let me watch Flagrant, let me watch Theo, let me watch now, right, the Netflix is eyeing video podcasts as it expands beyond TV and film as YouTube dominates the podcast space. Netflix sees an opportunity to woo creators and blur the lines between talk shows and podcasts,

coming to a TV near you folks. to woo creators and blur the lines between talk shows and podcasts. Coming to a TV near you folks. Netflix wants to get it. Huge built-in audience for any podcaster that can get on Netflix. For sure. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Well, this has been a blast having you on and we're going to have you back on next year to see whether you're going to apologize or not.

That was right. So we got to follow up. I'll bring flowers or not. I hope you're buying me flowers. Yeah, exactly. It's going to be one of us'll bring flowers or not. I'll bring you buying me flowers. Yeah, exactly. But it was a blast having you on, folks. The last thing before we wrap up, we had a weird podcast we did the other day with Scott Storch.

I think, Rob, Scott Storch is when? Tomorrow? Tomorrow at 9am. Tomorrow at 9am with Scott Storch. So if you know Scott Storch, the hip hop, it's a completely different world. We've had the weirdest guests. We had Dwyane Howard, Metal World Peace, Nancy, Scott Storch. It's like, you know, we just like to talk to people. That's what we different world. We've had the weirdest guests. We had Dwight Howard, Metal World Peace, Nancy Scott Storch. We just like to talk to people. That's what we like to do.

But anyways, gang, it was great having you on. We will not do any home team between now and next Tuesday. Have a great weekend. Take care everybody. Bye bye.