PBD Podcast - Tulsi’s Biolab Bombshell, JD Vance on Israel & Grooming Gang Inquiry | PBD #820

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

PBD and the crew are joined by Fox News’ Bret Baier to break down Trump’s new 14-point Iran deal, JD Vance’s Epstein file revelations, and Joe Rogan’s claim that multiple presidents tried to k...ill his Spotify show.LINKS🧑‍🧑‍🧒‍🧒 How to Raise Strong Kids (Free Webinar)https://bit.ly/4fRBuik⚽️ Shop the FLB Nations Collectionhttps://bit.ly/4uRZoxT📕 Buy Bret Baier's "Case for America"https://bit.ly/4emcm24🦁 The Vault 2026 (Aug. 31 - Sept. 1)https://bit.ly/4mZdLhD😆 Venting With Vinniehttps://youtube.com/live/XTIx7FCjl_8🦁 Sponsor The Vault 2026https://bit.ly/4mFBPpwⓂ️ Connect on Minnecthttps://bit.ly/4kSVksoⓂ️ PBD Podcast Circleshttps://bit.ly/4mAWQAP👔 Bet-David Consultinghttps://bit.ly/4lzQph2🥃 Boardroom Cigar Loungehttps://bit.ly/4pzLEXj🇰 Kalshihttp://kalshi.com/pbdSUBSCRIBEVALUETAINMENT@VALUETAINMENTVALUETAINMENT COMEDY@ValuetainmentComedyABOUT USPatrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller "Your Next Five Moves" (Simon & Schuster) and a father of two boys and two girls. He currently resides in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm something like it takes sweet with the story. I know this life's meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signs. Right here. You are a one of one?
Starting point is 00:00:20 My son's right. I think I've ever said this before. All right. So every once in a while, you have somebody on the show that is actually the best at what they do. And by the way, you know how sometimes people compliment you privately and then you're like, this guy's full of shit? Will you ever say publicly? So I'm saying this publicly.
Starting point is 00:00:40 My number one go-to guy that I trust who brings America together, who is the best moderator for any presidential debates we host, is our guest today, Brett Barrett. It's great to have you on a pod. Thanks for having me. Yeah, it's good to be here. It's great to have you. In a different lifetime, I would have been your agent.
Starting point is 00:00:57 We would have done very good together. You know how many got calls I got after that? After we had that exchange, I got about seven calls. Was Patrick your agent? We had a great conversation at the American Business Forum in Miami. It was great. Yeah, it was phenomenal. We had a good time.
Starting point is 00:01:12 But we got a lot of stories to go through. And, folks, the one thing I will tell you is I'm about supporting anybody that makes the country a better place. He just came out with a book. I'm going to get into it right off the bat. The book is called The Case for America, even before we get the show started. Do me in favor. Go to Amazon. Click on a link below.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Go order the book. The case for America. on behalf of our nation by the number one New York Times best-selling author, Bread Bear. So having said that, let's get right into it. Stories. So yesterday, the president, as usual, he says, look, if this doesn't work out, it's on JD. It's not my fault. You screwed this up, right? And then JD comes out and calls out Israel and says, your number one ally, your only ally that you have in the world is U.S.
Starting point is 00:01:56 And here's how you, my suggestion for you would be to not do this and not do that. Obviously, JD's got a book that's coming out. came out and he's out there, you know, given his argument on where he's at, what positions he's got, especially as a person that everybody talks about, he's the non-interventionist. So for the non-interventionist to support this, who does this make look good? And they're kind of, this is very good to see Trump and J.D. actually fairly close. Typically, the main guy that gets all the highlight is Rubio, even though he's not the VP. It's a very interesting last week.
Starting point is 00:02:27 We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the deal. We'll talk about Social Security. It's a mess. They're saying 2032, it's going to be done. And we've been reading this. I've been in the finance space since day before 9-11. You would always hear, look at your Social Security statement.
Starting point is 00:02:41 They tell you by 2032, the fund will be depleted. Well, that's around the corner, six years away, so we'll talk about that. There's this guy who was a president who in Chicago, he built a very expensive building. And a lot of people haven't gotten paid yet, and they're not happy about it. And there was a massive ceremony. Would everybody be in there? There was an interview being done where she asked them, Michelle and Barack, and she asked, so give me one word, Vinny, for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:03:08 What is the one word? And Barack says, fun. Yeah. And she says me. Me. And then the host, what's her name? She's a very well-known, very, very well-known. She does, she had cancer.
Starting point is 00:03:21 She came back. She's phenomenal. She's a professional. And she says, what a mic drop when Michelle Obama said, me. Which I don't know why me today is a mic-drop, but she gets a. gave a, we'll talk about who. All the whose, whose were there. I think the President Biden's handler was lost.
Starting point is 00:03:38 So at the end, there was a moment where he couldn't find himself. Why do you guys do this to him? Like, sometimes I wonder, like, does Jill privately like, do they go home with the grandkids and sit there and laugh at grandpa and say, look at grandpa, he's lost, look at grandpa. You don't do stuff like that, Jill. We know you love him, but go grab his hand and walk out. One day we're all going to be that age, and we need somebody to kind of walk us around. And some of us experienced that earlier at different kind of events.
Starting point is 00:04:02 UFC's different thing you go through. Some people experience it later on in life, but it is what it is. Inside joke. That's a big time inside joke. Next story. Rogan says there was a couple presidents that contacted Spotify to have the show canceled. So we're going to play this game. Who the couple presidents are.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Obviously, most of them are dead, so we're not dealing with like 78 of them. You only got a handful of them. It's not a hard game. But we're going to kind of speculate and see who those presidents are. We know one of them who it wasn't, which is Trump. Who the other guys are? We'll address it. And then an article came out talking about that people are reading a third less than they did 10 years ago, half because they don't have time, the other half because they have a lot of distractions.
Starting point is 00:04:44 And I broke down the numbers. And yesterday there was an interview with Elon, somebody did maybe this was an older clip, but I saw, where the lady asks him, what is the worst invention of our lifetime? and he said, what do you call it? Doom scrolling, where you just kind of go through watching the short form. He says short form maybe one of the worst things for us because it's brain rotting. And then I went and pulled up the data to see how much short form we consume per year. And then did some math. We'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I think it's worth for parents to kind of talk with their kids about it. There's a report that came out. I don't know if you went through this yet or not. The Rape Gang Inquiry Report, which it's disturbing to see. When you go through the report, Connor went through the whole report. He pretty much read the whole thing. This is the UK, right?
Starting point is 00:05:32 This is the UK report with the Pakistani. 85% of the rapes being done by Pakistani men and how they control these girls. And they say, if we call you, you don't pick up and show up to do a favor for any of our guys, we will record all the videos that we have and show it to your family, give it to the public. The system is a redid...
Starting point is 00:05:50 And there was even one part of the report that says, you're lucky, we're teaching you our culture. You are lucky. What do you mean you're lucky we're teaching you? That's the culture you want to teach. So we'll talk about that as, you know, as parents, you know how devastating that is and tragic that is when folks go through that. And then last but not least, Fox is leading to 250 year celebration that is taking place, which is exciting. I want to hear about that. I know, you know, Brett's going to be in the middle of all of it. So having said that, before we get started with the podcast, we got the World Cup folks. Okay. Yesterday, Canada won 6-0. I'm watching this game. Honestly, Qatar made Canada look like every
Starting point is 00:06:29 player was Rinaldino, Rinaldo, Messi. They made Canadian soccer players look like the greatest soccer players of all time. U.S. is playing today. FYI. This hat with the U.S. flag, Connor, if you want to go to it on VTmerch.com, sickest hat, future looks bright, red, white and blue with the American flag right here. A hot item that we have. go to vtemerch.com to place the order on the hat and then for iran the iran hat which makes it very cool and controversial the flag that is here is the og flag from back in the days from shah and shahi shahi muhammeda zashaphal palavi the man the man that rocked iran for many years and made it free for women made a lot of things great in iran go to vtmerch dot com to place the order and when you
Starting point is 00:07:15 go there what's the collection that we have there there's got to be which one's the collection, just go to the F.L.B. Hat collection. And then you'll see Nations Collection. I love it. Okay, fantastic. So that's that. And aside from that, to all the fathers, I'm in the middle of a fatherhood book that I'm writing that's probably going to come out in the next year to three years. I'm working on three books. This is one of them that I'm working out. But on July 1st, we're hosting a webinar, specifically for fathers. And this is a, I would say it's all the
Starting point is 00:07:44 mistakes and everything that I've seen myself, the great fathers in my life do, We're going to talk about this on a webinar July 1st. I want you to watch this video and go register and put it on your calendar. Go ahead, Connor. When are you the happiest? Is it when you're watching a game? Is it when you're hanging out with your friends? Or is it when your kids are around?
Starting point is 00:08:01 Yeah, I can tell you, I've traveled the world. I've made a lot of money. But I'm the happiest when my kids are sitting around me. We're having dinner. We're talking. I enjoyed so much. It's a very important job that you and I have. There's five different types of fathers.
Starting point is 00:08:12 The absent father, the friend father, the dictator father, the provider father, and And the builder father. So no matter which one you're watching this, I don't want you to feel bad if you're saying, man, I kind of feel bad. I'm the absent father. I'm only to provide. I'm always trying to win my kids over with money.
Starting point is 00:08:27 No matter what it is, every one of us wants to become better as a father. If you're watching the same, Pat, I want to improve in this area. I do as well. I'm going to share with you what's work for me and what mistakes I've made on July 1st, 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I'm doing a free webinar specifically to talk about the five different types of fathers and how you and I can become better at it. So go to VTWebinar.com, register again. Go to VTWebinar.com. Ladies, you may also want to get there and get your husbands on it, but we're going to have a good time on that podcast. Again, July 1st, 6 p.m. free webinar. Go to VTWebinar.com to register for it.
Starting point is 00:09:03 With that being said, let's get right into it. What story should we go into first? Should we start off with Tulsi Gabbard? This is Tulsi Gabbard's final Fauci video. She posted one, went viral. I don't know how many views it got, 50 million, 100 million views. everybody pretty much retweeted it. We heard about her resigning.
Starting point is 00:09:20 We heard about her husband going through, you know, health issues that was publicly discussed. And then all of a sudden, this last video comes out, it's like her farewell of delivering what many people wanted in 2024. They wanted to find out what really happened with Fauci. And here's what Tulsi had to say. Go for it. Before the COVID pandemic, Dr. Fauci,
Starting point is 00:09:43 as head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, provided millions in U.S. taxpayer dollars to fund dangerous gain of function research on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, work which is now widely viewed as the source of the unintentional lab leak that sparked the pandemic. Now, in support of President Trump's maximum transparency mandate, today, on my final day as Director of National Intelligence,
Starting point is 00:10:12 I'm releasing never-before-seen communications and documents that expose exactly how Fauci worked with politicized career leadership in the intelligence community to suppress the truth about his actions, the virus's lab leak origins, and his role in directing U.S. funding for this dangerous research that caused immeasurable harm and countless lost lives. Now, these documents expose Fauci's direct role in influencing and manipulating IC assessments on COVID. and how Fauci lied to Congress in 2024 when under oath he denied knowledge of or participation
Starting point is 00:10:54 in discussions with intelligence officials about viral research. We also received testimony from multiple intelligence community whistleblowers who reported retaliation for challenging the intelligence community's manipulation of intelligence on the virus's origins. You can put that on a pause. Once again, revealing a clear pattern. if you want to posit. Brett, one, why is this so important?
Starting point is 00:11:17 And two, will there be redemption for some of the families that went through it who directly were impacted by some of his policies? I think this is a huge deal. Back in that time, we did one of the first stories about the Wuhan Lab as possibly being the center of this, and were lambasted as conspiracy theorists and out there and said all of the administration officials, came out and said, don't listen to this. Later, we found emails after FOIA requests where Fauci and
Starting point is 00:11:52 Collins, Francis Collins, were trying to counter our stories about the Wuhan Lab. This is a huge deal. If you think about it, Fauci was pardoned in the last day of the Biden administration. And now there are reports about how he really was pushing for that. And once he got word that it was going to happen, and he signed it right away, was obviously very concerned about it. I think this is really big. If you think about back to COVID, how much a mistake it was for the country as a health policy overall, the total shutdown. There are families that still are impacted by this. Think about all the kids around the country that have one less year because of what they went through.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So it's a huge deal. I guess the question will be the following. Here's what will be the question for you. let's do accountability. There's an audience that watches is saying nothing's going to happen. He's going to get away, and so what? He had to pardon.
Starting point is 00:12:53 The five years came by. The autopin was not done. So if you can't have the auto pen, that means they can't lift the pardon on him. So what are you going to do to him? You're not going to do nothing. He's going to go away doing his speech is getting paid $100,000 to $300,000.
Starting point is 00:13:05 So worst case, nothing happens, right? What's best case for accountability with him? Well, I mean, I think that the administration is going to look at that auto pen and challenge it legally to see if it can. I mean, I think they can. I don't know if it's going to be successful. And, you know, the best case on accountability is that we never do this again. But I think that you're right. The best case is just we never doing again, but there's not like a, he's out there
Starting point is 00:13:37 having to answer all these questions and getting charged with something. the likelihood of that happening is slim. It's very slim. So, Tom, a question for you with this. What role the Supreme Court play here? Because I guess my question would be, you know how many times, like, I was for tariffs. I wanted tariffs. When he said tariffs is my favorite word in the dictionary, I guess I would pull love ahead or God
Starting point is 00:13:59 or, you know, that whole thing that he did. I was right there with you. Yeah, we were there. Tactics, not taxes. Yeah, I like tariffs because we only get $80 billion dollars in tariffs in revenue, pre-president announcing it, and then we spiked up to $300 billion. and then all of a sudden Supreme Court is six three conservative. They went against them.
Starting point is 00:14:17 So these are people that he put in and they went against them, which is the power is in the Supreme Court. What role does the Supreme Court play with this or they have nothing to do with some like this? Well, someone would have to bring a cause forward for the unprecedented action of saying that the auto pen was used and Biden didn't actually authorize a particular pardon like Fauci. You would have to have somebody comes and brings a case to the Solicitor General and the Supreme Court wants to hear it. Those are two big jumps. Jump number one, you have to bring a case forward like this. You have to be able to prove that Biden never pardoned Fauci of his will, but there was a signature that on a piece of paper the pardoned came out. And then the Supreme Court would have to take the unprecedented step of overriding a presidential pardon.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And I think those, you know, Evil Caneval never made it across the Grand Canyon back in the 70s. If you know the history of that guy, tried to jump it, end up trying to jump the Snake River Canyon, never got across that. I think this is a canyon jump that no one's going to get across on this. Number one. The second path, that's path one that's got two sides of it, Autopin and Supreme Court overriding, pardon. The other path is, do you have a state that brings an action somehow against Fauci or any, the people that worked with him because the federal pardon covers these offenses and it would have to be a state action that comes forward. Which is more possible. More possible. I mean, like even in
Starting point is 00:15:46 Florida, think about all of the COVID things that the government in Florida has done. DeSantis would be the guy to do it. He would be the guy that would do it. He would be the guy to do it. And by the way, if he, by the way, imagine this. So what are, what is our impression of DeSantis's aspirations of running for president in 2020. If you were a betting man, where do you put it? 50-50, 80-20. I think he's running for 20-28. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Okay, so let's just say he's running for 20-28. Can you imagine if he does this and he's able to make some progress how many people support he gets for a guy that actually gets things done? And remember, this is free agency election, 2028. There is no guy that's coming back on Rice signing another four-year contract. You know, if you look at sports, Trump, nobody like that exists. It's wide open for anybody. I think it could be a big can another country do anything about it?
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Starting point is 00:19:10 I suppose, but those things, it's like, where do you go? What's the court of jurisdiction on that? Because they can say, we don't go by the laws you go by. Correct. You impacted our country as well. I'll give you an example. B.B. Netanyahu, Adam, help me out here, had two countries that actually filed war crime,
Starting point is 00:19:29 allegations or international indictments, if you call it that. That's probably what you call it. And BB was just like, well, I guess I'm never going to Turkey or wherever it was, right? But nothing ever happens. Same with Putin as well. Yeah, no one's going to come over.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I think it's the ICC. Yeah, we don't even really acknowledge the ICC. Yeah, exactly. Right. And it's like no one's going to come extradite you back. If the international community did step up, you would go against China, wouldn't you? Because, I mean, they're the place where this thing is.
Starting point is 00:19:57 So in other words, also the likelihood of that happening is slim to none because you don't want China as an enemy. You're going to be afraid of losing somebody like that. Vinnie, how important is this issue to you? First of all, I think it's one of the biggest ones and I'm just shocked that Americans, on any side, Republican, independent, Democrat, whatever, aren't as furious at this. This should be the number one anger issue. Branden, it drives me crazy that for illegals that are here in the country, raping or doing everything, stealing Minnesota, people are willing to go on the street and fight and try to over people and get shot, but for something like this, especially for a Fauci, this isn't,
Starting point is 00:20:33 this isn't lowball, this is the director of national intelligence saying on my last day, I have to let you guys know this. So think about it, Pat, this is the biggest case of problem, reaction solution. Fauci, they paid, Pat, they paid for this Wuhan thing. Then when it came out, they said, no, it didn't happen. It didn't come from there and lied. Then lied about social distancing, scared everybody, put on a mask, don't put on a mask. And then you push an experimental vaccine that is literally, Pat, how many years we saw soccer players running and just dropping dead? And people are like, why is this happening? NBA players, football players, dropping.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Monday night football. And then he would an interview and wouldn't talk about what his doctor's told to him. Yeah, because he's probably told from your agents, don't say thing. The fact that this isn't the number one, guys, please. And I'm not saying, somebody online was like, oh, you're saying go off their file sheet. No, no, I'm not saying doing anything like that. God's going to, God's going to give him what he has coming to him. But Pat, this should be the number one story.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Tom, how long were you in the hospital? 17 days. 17 days. Like, this hits home. How long were you in? Not just hospital. How long were you in? Five days in ICU.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Five days in ICU. And I'll never forget the day Kim called me. I was at Louis Bossie when Kim called me. We're on the phone for 30 minutes. And she's emotional. We're sitting there worried about what's going to happen to this guy. So this was a real thing that impacted a lot of people's lives. And the part that you think about,
Starting point is 00:21:58 about is how quickly we move on. How quickly is like the next news cycle. Oh my God, this isn't, boom. Oh, wow, World Cup. You know, you just move on to the next thing, right? And I wonder if there's going to be anything that happens to you, Adam. Your final thoughts on this before.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Yeah, well, Tulsi went out with a bang, didn't she? I mean, if you said, you know, on your list of cards of what you thought Tulsi's last mic drop would be, you would think it maybe it has to do with like the war in Iran, maybe something revealing about Trump. But the fact that she's like, hey, by the way, everybody. just so you know on my last day. Fouchy's a liar. I'm out. It was like, oh, I didn't see that one coming. Actually, a friend of mine text me that day and what's my first response? Is it real? Is it AI? Did she post it? And that's what you should do. And I'm glad that we verified that. The problem that I have,
Starting point is 00:22:44 and where it affected our lives, I'm not talking about the actual vaccine was, do you remember when we were doing the, I mean, when we started the podcast and obviously it was during COVID in 2020, 2020, 2021, we would have these fierce debates on the podcast. And what would YouTube say, hey, they can't talk about that? You'd have a little strike right there. And then we would have internal communications. I hope you don't mind. And we'd be like, well, we just got two strikes. Like, is this worth losing the channel over, literally? And ultimately we're like, we got to tell the truth. Yeah, just so you know, when you get a strike, YouTube's rules are, you can't go live. So when you have a strike and when you have two strikes, I think it's 15 minutes or
Starting point is 00:23:24 something like that. So imagine we are a live show. Wow. Yeah. So you get a strike. You can't go live? You get two. Can you verify these things that I'm saying, guys, in the back? And you do two on two, you're only limited to 15 minutes. So then we have to pre-record and go or wait two weeks and not do a podcast.
Starting point is 00:23:43 So, you know, credit to YouTube, they've changed those guidelines. You no longer walk on X-Shall's. But at the same time, if an AOC or a Newsom or an ASEF or somebody else gets elected 28, who knows what happens? And then my final point is, I'm glad you talked about those details. What's one of our cornerstones here at Value Taming on PPD podcast? It is debate. And they disinabled us to actually have this conversation. And then we had, I think, Peter McCullochon, Robert Malone.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I hosted was Bobby Kennedy and Dershowitz. Heeded, heated debate. If you ever see this debate, it's very weird. I ask one question, and I just sat there and for two hours they fought. And at the end, I said, well, gentlemen, great question. That's the best moderating. That's the best moderating. I said from the best moderators right there.
Starting point is 00:24:29 You know, to your point, Pat, we do operate in chapters in America, and we close the chapter, and we move on. And we have this thing on my show called Whatever Happened to, because there are so many stories that are like that. Whatever happened to X, Y, Z, whatever happened to this. This story is a huge whatever happened to, and the fact that she's doing this today is a big deal. And by the way, if you think about with her, her doing something like this,
Starting point is 00:24:55 is she's already reached a pinnacle of what she can do as a non-president VP. Yes. Head of DNI, what's the next job they're going to offer her? Honestly, what are you going to offer her? She's got plenty of, you know, jobs that he... The only thing that happens next, you know she's not done. Tulsi's younger than me. Tulsi's not...
Starting point is 00:25:17 Tulsi's in her late 30s. She looks like she's in her mid-30s. I don't know how old she is. But I'm going to say late 30s, 40s, 40s, right? This could be a top. five VP candidate for JD, if you think about it. This could be a top five for JD, and we know the relationship with JD,
Starting point is 00:25:34 Joe Kent and Tulsi, there was some relationship there. So there could be some moves she's making to be like, hey, I finished with a bang, and this is her campaign, because how soon is 2027 coming around the corner? It's here. Like this. Yeah. So we're there. The game's about to start. You know, very soon this game changes,
Starting point is 00:25:51 and we're going into playoff season. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know what bothers me, though, Brent? Like, how to, we're, the system is still set up toward another Fauci and another COVID can happen. And then guess what? That person that does all this madness and all this destruction, pre pardon, pardon. You're a doctor.
Starting point is 00:26:07 He didn't even do anything, but they knew what he did. So what's to stop the next one from happening, Pat? It could happen again. I mean, we'll see. The thing is, I want to get to the next story. At this point of the game, we'll see what's going to happen. Good for Tulsi for doing this. The next thing is the Iran-U.S. deal that took place, which.
Starting point is 00:26:25 which, things are moving so much that every time we talk about it, it's like, so they have the deal. You know, Chaminé says, the Supreme Leader says he authorized the deal. We saw the 14 points, what the 14 points are. We see him signing the contract in English and in Farsi. I didn't know the president speaks and reads Farsi fluently. That's pretty impressive that he's doing that. Is this him signing the deal in Farsi? Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Go ahead, guys. He's reading Farsi. Look at that. How impressive that is. This mind is so talented. His signature is a piece of art. You see it's right to left. You see it's right to left?
Starting point is 00:26:59 So that's impressive that the president took, and this is not even a sponsorship by Duolingo. He just kind of picked it up. He knew it back in the days. So you have that. Then while this is going on, the president is doing a press conference. I think Rubio is standing to his left. I want to see who was to his right.
Starting point is 00:27:19 And he's being asked about, yeah, this is it. Howard's to his right. and he asks about the deal and says if it doesn't work out is this the clip? Is this the clip of blaming JD if it doesn't work out? Humberto, is this it? Go for it. Play the clip. Watch us folks. He's hilarious. You send the vice
Starting point is 00:27:35 president. If it works out, great, you'll look like a genius for sending him. And if it doesn't work out, it's the vice president's fault. I like that idea. Sure. What? If it doesn't work out, I'm blaming J.D. You better be careful
Starting point is 00:27:51 on J.D. He's going to turn it. playing around and get the hell out of here. Yeah, I like that idea. I think it's a good idea. Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you. Rubio is stone cold. Do you think a part of this, Brett, is like,
Starting point is 00:28:08 you think it bothers either one of them on who gets the bigger job to solve or at this point, Rubio is a statesman. He just wants to do what's best for the country. You know, I think the latter, but I notice his silence over the last few days, and I think it's pretty telling that he hasn't weighed in publicly. And JD's been out on every single show.
Starting point is 00:28:29 The vice president's been everywhere defending this deal. Now more power to him, he is defending it and from the administration point of view. In a very good way, by the way. In a very good way. Like, you know, to the point where you have to give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe the 60-day negotiation works and it goes like they think. But there's so much history, as you know, Pat, that 47 years of the U.S. Iranians negotiating in a way that is not in good faith and is always cheating. And it's the biggest criticism is the money.
Starting point is 00:29:03 The administration says they're not going to get a red cent. However, they've lifted the oil restrictions, and now oil is flowing. That's money that goes right to the regime. We'll see. You've got to give them the time for the negotiation, but the criticism from both sides of the aisle is that this is going to be more the same. And the Gulf Arab states are really scared that it suddenly empowers this regime that has been heinous.
Starting point is 00:29:28 What do you say to the people who say Iran got the better end of the deal here? One thing, listen, their Navy was destroyed. The Air Force was destroyed. They were set back, but they still have a ton of missiles. They still have at least, you know, how they talk about things. They're talking like they have all the cards.
Starting point is 00:29:48 They don't, but they're talking like they have. do and the regime is still intact. There's nothing in this deal that prevents them from killing 40,000 Iranians if they go out on the streets and protest. There's nothing in this deal that limits the expansion of their missile program to the point where they go longer and it's more of a threat to us or Europe. We'll see what this nuclear negotiation over 60 days looks like. I don't think that they're better off, but they're definitely not in the place. place that we thought they were going to be at the end of this action. Yeah, it's a very good discussion to have here.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And I want to play this clip with what J.D. had to say with Iran deal. And then let's go after this. I'm going to go to the next clip of him, call on out Israel. But go for it. Play this clip with J.D. People say that billions of dollars of assets will be released. That's not true. What is true is that Iran will have a much better and much more prosperous future
Starting point is 00:30:47 if they meet the obligations they make in this agreement. we'll of course see that's one of the things we're going to work out in the technical talks that will follow the official signing on Friday. Mr. Vice President, it's Ed O'Keefe, and we're so glad you're here in part because as Republican Senator Lindsey Graham said yesterday, you are the architect of this deal. Didn't we already play this clip on Wednesday? The Iranians are saying that they're going to have access to a $300 billion. This is a three-day clip. I've seen this clip here. But can you go to the clip of J.D. calling out Israel? We played this clip a couple days ago. Go to this one. This is the one I want to see here. Watch this, folks. Played from the beginning, please. might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world. I will say, I don't know, maybe I've missed this.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I don't think Bibi himself has actually criticized the deal because I think he's maybe a little bit more familiar with the details of what's in it. But there's a clip of him saying, there's a clip of him saying, if I'm you, I think it's the previous one where he was standing there, where he's saying, if I were you, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't be your, the only ally you have. in the world is U.S. and you're acting like you don't have one.
Starting point is 00:31:52 So I'll look forward. I'll text it to you guys. Tom, but this is a shorter version of it. Press play? If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world. It's a short version.
Starting point is 00:32:10 There's a little bit more to it. The only ally that I have in the entire world, Tom. Where are you at with this? I am pleased over the last week that the president and the vice president have had very measured but clear statements about where they wanted Israel to line up
Starting point is 00:32:27 in this thing. The president was very clear about it and said about I think maybe it's time to back off a little bit in Lebanon. Do you need to knock down an apartment building to get one guy? There's other people there. And I think those are the kind of measured statements I think the middle of America
Starting point is 00:32:42 wants to hear because there's been this dialogue and say, well, Bibi does what he wants, and and, you know, Trump kind of has to follow it. I like what I'm seeing here because this is the way we should lead. It's like, hey, dude, knock it off. You're an ally. I'm not here to undermine you.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I'm not here to pull the defense from you. We give you all kinds of arms, all kinds of spending and things like this. But look, right here, maybe back off a little bit. And I like the tone that JD had there. That was the kind of tone that I would expect to hear from Rubio, because that sounded kind of like a secretary of state message. if you know what I mean, Pat, to say it that way. But I like what I'm hearing,
Starting point is 00:33:24 and I'm hoping that Israel holds the line on, you know, having a quick trigger finger. Up, we had a missile over here. Up, there was something in the Golan Heights. Up. I'm hoping that Israel holds back that trigger figure that would... What track record have they shown that they will? That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:33:43 So to me... And I'm using hope, and there's a great military general wrote a book called Hope is not a method. So to me, I think there is different levels of critics of Israel. Okay? So what's one? One is the critic that they can't ever do anything right. And you know who I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:34:02 No matter what they do, it's always, you know, their fault. You know, what does he always say? No Jews, no news or whatever thing you see. No Jews, no news. So that's the one category of people that are critics of Israel, right? Then you got the next ones that are more for business. they control, they control media, they control this. So it's more from the business side criticism.
Starting point is 00:34:22 It's not necessarily everything's on them, but they have a lot of power, they have a lot of wealth. You know what the last one is? The last one is like people that are not critics, they're like, what are you doing? You're making people that support you, because we understand what role you have, you're making the people that supported you're not like you.
Starting point is 00:34:41 What are you doing? You know, you're giving these guys credit and you're not showing a sign of restraint, and, you know, an example of an ally of how you're handling yourself. And I think that audience right now, specifically the reasonable audience, I'm not talking about the,
Starting point is 00:34:59 they can't do anything right audience. I'm not talking about the, they control all the money audience. I'm talking about these guys. You're losing these guys. You don't want to lose these guys. What are you doing trying to lose these guys? These are not the people you want to lose.
Starting point is 00:35:11 You're here? If you're here and you don't, you're not aware that you're here, you're making a double, dumb mistake. You're making a double dumb mistake of the argument. And by the way, this is the clip we were talking about. I want to play this clip and then Adam, I'm going to come
Starting point is 00:35:25 to you, I'm going to come to you. I want the audience to see the entire thing 45 seconds of it because we only show like seven seconds of it. Watch this clip with JD and as a person that I think he's great in debating. I really like Rubio, but I really like the way JD handled themselves in this specific clip. Go ahead. Twizzlers keep the fun going.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah, I know. I just stopped whatever you were listening to to tell you that Twizzlers keep the fun going. Well, irony isn't my forte, but twisty, chewy, yummy Twizzlers sure is. So think of Twislers as a little palate cleanser for whatever's queued up, which, by the way, should be coming very soon. Like any second now. Okay, Twizzlers, time to keep the fun going. Now I saw the Axios report, you know, that Netanyahu is fuming.
Starting point is 00:36:20 that's not reflective of the conversations that I've had with him, but maybe he's saying something to somebody else that he's not saying to me. What I will say, and this does bother me, is that you've seen people within BB's cabinet who have come out and attack the deal and in some ways very personally attack the President of the United States. And I guess my message to them would be twofold.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Number one, Donald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel, at this moment in time. And he happens to be the head of state of the world's superpower. If I was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere left in the entire world.
Starting point is 00:37:04 And the second message I would give, to some of those cabinet members, Bibi, to his credit, has not gone down this path, but to some of these cabinet members in Israel who are attacking the President of the United States, the other thing that I would say is that over the last three months, two-thirds of the defense, offensive weapons that have protected your homeland have been built by American hands and
Starting point is 00:37:26 paid for by American tax dollars. The problem for Israel is not Donald J. Trump. And anybody in Israel who thinks their biggest problem is the President of the United States needs to wake up and smell the reality of the situation that country is in. You can pause. By the way, I really, really like what he just said here. And even to critics, because I think Ted Cruz came out on said something to the point that Don Jr. had to jump in and say, what the hell are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:37:53 Yeah. Ted Cruz. I don't know what Ted Cruz said. Oh, yeah. Don Jr. said he was going to get money. He was going to, that they were going to get money on day one. Right. They were going to get money to $300 billion or, you know, the $300 billion.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Maybe the $25 to $26 billion, I think is what he was referencing the freeze money on day one. And then Don's like, what the hell are you talking about. So it's obvious this is becoming a, listen to J.D. What does J.D sound like? I think he sounds like a reasonable player. Yeah. What he said? Adam, your thoughts on what J.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I mostly agree with. J.D. Vance, but he does have blind spots. What I'll tell you is, of all the things that J.D. Vance is great at, I would not put foreign policy anywhere near the top of the list, my opinion. So let me just go one by one. I think the Trump administration, specifically President Trump, is the most pro-Israel president we'd probably ever seen. So to anybody in Israel criticizing the Trump administration, please have a little gratitude. Because a month ago, he was the best guy in the world. All of a sudden, you're not in this deal. You're maybe having some questions. At the same time, most people need things to be broken down very simple. Israel did this. U.S. did this. Guys,
Starting point is 00:39:05 if U.S. did something, if Trump did something, what percentage of the country wouldn't agree? Well, by the stats, 60%. So not to get to inside baseball here. There's an election going on in Israel. Just like there's midterms here in November. There's, Bibi's up for re-election in October. He's actually not favored right now. So he's fighting for his political life. Trump and B.B., how do you think their relationship? And you specifically target what you disagree with what J.D. said.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Are you going through other stories? Be specific with that. I'll be very specific. Nobody has Israel's back. I think he said something like that. No foreign country actually has Israel's back. More than U.S. I think he just said singular. He said anybody.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Yes. Well, that's not true. Mote was just there, India. they have a very strong relationship. Not like U.S. Modi's not going to give them protection. It's U.S. and then there's everybody else. So I'm not even trying to equivocate that.
Starting point is 00:39:57 They have a very good relationship with UAE. They're working in unison and lockstep dealing with Iran right now. Germany is because of U.S. The number one domino is U.S. If the number one dominole leaves, Adam, this is if you want to, let me tell you irritates the crap out of me, and I'm not even on the inside. And I'm not even a good.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Some people would say, well, you're this, your dad, you're all the positions that I get. criticized for, I'm very comfortable with it. If I talk to you and I have your back and I tell you, back off, I'm doing the deal, I get off the phone, I have confidence that you were going to play as a teammate because I'm backing you up and you don't, I have to go public with your bullshit. I have to go public with it. What else you want me to do for you at this point?
Starting point is 00:40:43 I'm in the middle. Can you imagine, like, right now, imagine you're about to get a job with a company that you've been been trying to get, and it's a big job. Let's see they're going to pay you a half a million dollar your income. Let's just kind of put this number up. And you say, Pat, please don't tweet anything. I'm close of getting this deal. And then I tweet something that hurts your name. You call it, what are you doing, Pat? I'm in the middle of a contract, not that I want to delay for two more weeks. No, no, no, I got you, bro. I'm so sorry. Don't worry about it. You go back and then I say something again. How are you going to react to that? I have a very big problem
Starting point is 00:41:11 with this specific area of it's about to get done. There is some progress that's going to be happening and you keep pushing the agenda and saying, no, I'm going to do what's best for me. So then don't act like we're allies because we're not allies. Well, they are allies. And J.D. Vance. Act like an ally, though. I hear you. May I, may I respond?
Starting point is 00:41:30 I hear you loud and clear, have some gratitude, have some respect, no doubt. J.D. Vance, the part you didn't hear was when he goes, listen, we are allies, but understand one thing. U.S. is the senior partner. Israel is the junior partner. Cool. Trump doesn't control Bibi, and Bibi certainly doesn't control. control Trump. That's without a doubt.
Starting point is 00:41:51 What, what the, the challenge that they're going to have, this is my opinion, when Israel was not in the room in the negotiation, Iran recognized one thing. Okay, why is Lebanon and Hezbollah so intertwined in this deal? Is, is Lebanon part of Iran? Well, in actuality, yes. Hezbollah is not a Iranian cutout. They're literally, the Iranian military based in Lebanon. So how's that going to work? So imagine this, and I totally understand, hey, if I say somebody to a tweet,
Starting point is 00:42:26 let me ask you this, hey, we're trying to do a deal with Mexico, let's say. And I go, hey, how long are we going to let Mexico or... Those are two... Don't know, isolate. Don't do that. Don't do that. Isolate the issue. I'm making an analogy. No.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Here's the question. Whatever point you make, just isolate the concern. Let me say this. Tell me. How long are we going to let Hezbollah? Shoot missiles into Israel. No problem. When we're on the phone.
Starting point is 00:42:50 How long are we going to do that? No, don't do that. If I'm on the phone with you, you and I agree, I'm in the middle of a deal. Sit this one to F out. Sure. You say yes. I get off the phone. You attack, what the hell are you doing?
Starting point is 00:43:04 So don't tell me the two different issues. These are two different issues that we're talking about. Would you hear me out? Yeah. I'm just going to ask you a question. Go for it. Let's say they have an agreement. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Trump and Bibi. Yes. And they go, listen, do not attack Hezbole. Yeah. Don't do it. Yeah. He goes, you got it. And then the BB goes, but what happens if they show, they shoot missiles at us? What should I do? Don't respond. You know what I would do? How many times will you allow? No. Someone to shoot missiles. Let me ask you. Let me ask you. Let me ask you. It's a fair question. I'm not even asking. I'm getting ganged up and I'm trying to make a point. I can't even make a point. Iran has the best excuse and scapegoat ever. We try to do the deal, guys. but Hezbollah, they're always going to tell Hezbole to shoot missiles into Israel. Can I ask you a question here? So let's say that happens. Let's say that happens.
Starting point is 00:43:55 If you and I are allies, I'm your biggest ally. Yeah. I have your back. They do anything to you. What should be your first phone call? I'm going to call me and you're going to, let's roll play. Roll play. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Go ahead. Who am I? You're BB. I have to be BB? Yeah, you're BBD. How you doing? Hey, Mr. President, thank you for all your help. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:15 How can I help you, sir? No. You are telling me that Iran or Hezbollah just did something. Yeah. So make your complaint. Is that the thing? Hey, look, we've had to basically move a couple 100,000 people out of the north of Haifa and the Golan Heights. And because we're getting missiles shot at our people.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Luckily, we have the Iron Dome. What should I do when Hezbollah keeps shooting missiles? How many of these instances is it because they attacked you? How many of these instances are because you attacked them? Well, they always attack first. No, no, no. And then we respond. We do.
Starting point is 00:44:45 But you can't always use it. it in every single situation. If they do, guess what I'm going to say? You have the right to defend yourself. But don't start it. I'm in the middle of a deal. Because I'm calling Hezbollah on the other line. I'm not Hezbollah. I'm going to call Lebanon on the other line. I'm going to call the other guys that I'm talking to on the other line. And I'm going to have conversations with them. Sure. But in a situation like this, my deal is with you. Well, if Trump said that the Iran deal is the big deal and the Hezbole thing is a small deal. If you call me and we're having a conversation, which I don't think those calls are being made, then it's a different story.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Because why would the president get upset and call at BB if those calls are now? They should communicate better. I agree. But who do you think is more reasonable? Bibi or whoever's running Hezbollah right now? Who's going to honor? Well, of course it is. No.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Let me just add. I'm going to come to you. The news side of this, just in the past couple of minutes, Israeli officials said that we are currently in a ceasefire. We remain in the security zone. And if we are attacked, we will respond. We will thwart those threats. To Adam's point, in this particular instance, they lost four IDF soldiers, and that was the response that Israel says they made after they were fired on and lost the 40 IDF soldiers.
Starting point is 00:46:00 So to your role play, BB would say, we are going to respond. We cannot not respond. And what would Trump say? Let this deal go through first before you respond? No, to me, let's take so you guys are talking one. with the four IDF soldiers being lost. But this has happened now how many times? Exactly. I mean, it happens to your point. It happens all the time. No, no.
Starting point is 00:46:21 In this specific context, let's go to the last three weeks. Not even long, the last three weeks. Since the president's been trying to do a deal. How many times when they've been doing that, Israel has responded without any kind of attack to them? A few times. Right. Why are you doing it?
Starting point is 00:46:36 Now, if you call me, I'm a reasonable leader, and you told me they just kill four of my guys. What do I do? You know what? You got to do what you got to do. I can't do anything at that point. You've got to defend yourself. But to me, it's the cases when nothing happens and you're retaliating because you know deep down inside,
Starting point is 00:46:50 you don't want this deal to get done. Who in the world doesn't want this deal to get done? FYI, let me be for as transparent as possible. You know who's in the most confused situation? This guy. Do you know why? I lived in Iran for 11 years. I know how bad IRGC is.
Starting point is 00:47:07 These are the worst of the worst of the worst. I have personal stories what I witnessed. They're not better for the world. They're the worst people to negotiate with. They're the worst people to get a deal with. The 41,000 Iranians that have been killed and the girl was dancing. She's now being faced to get 70 whiplash a story came out yesterday. These are very normal things that happen in Iran.
Starting point is 00:47:28 It's not like an abnormal thing. Are they getting rid of IRGC? No. Are you negotiating with Ruholoh-Lah Khomeini's son? Yes. You don't think he wants to retaliate after you killed his father, his wife, and his mother? You don't think he's going to forget that? Of course he is.
Starting point is 00:47:41 You think they're going to keep their end of the bargain? Never. Obama said never. Clinton said never. Every one of the president said they don't keep their commitments. Let's set that part aside. I'm not the president. You're not the president. B.B.'s not the president. Trump is the president. And it's very hard to become the president. If he feels the right thing to do right now is to get this deal done, because his position is, if I have to choose between solving all the problems in the Middle East or U.S., I'm going to choose America first. You should. That's his position. And I respect
Starting point is 00:48:14 it. But when it comes on to this case, we all know Israel doesn't want the steel to get done. 81% of Iranian people don't want this deal to get done. I don't even know if a lot of the Gulf states fully want the steel to get done. Definitely UAE. Yeah. So you have to kind of think about the motives of everybody, but to me,
Starting point is 00:48:30 the back and forth, Vinnie, I'll give you to final thoughts, and we'll move on. Well, I mean, I were talking about the story in general. It bothers me that peace teeters on the actions of another country, period. We are trying to get this thing done. And mind you, there's the same country that in New York Times reported. Remember the article? It was how Trump took us the war with Iran. We're there in the
Starting point is 00:48:48 situation room and the president was briefed by everybody, including Massad was on the Zoom and they were like, hey, listen, this is going to be like Venezuela. We're going to be in, we're going to be out. Regime change. We're going to arm the Kurds, the uprising. None of that was real and everybody in that room was saying it's farcical. It's farcical. So, and what bothers me big time is the people that are pissed off at peace, Pat, the Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, and Laura Lumer, they're pissed. Like Mark Levin's attitudes. Put some troops on the ground.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Are you going to send your son? Are you going to go? Or Ben Shapiro's? Are these people going to go? We have a chance. And Pat, this is the thing. Remember when I talked about the spoiled son? When you have that spoiled son,
Starting point is 00:49:27 they do whatever they do and they keep doing what they're doing. This report just came out right now. Iran declares the Strait of Hormuz closed again after U.S. lifts blockade. And this is what it's saying. It's saying Iran announced it's closing the Strait of Hormuz again.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Iran says it will keep the straight close until Israel withdrawals from southern Lebanon and U.S. forces leave the Persian Gulf. And it's like, I'm just, we're almost there. We're almost there, pen. Every day I turn on the news, I'm waiting to see if another bombing happened. If another bombing.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Give it a chance. That would drive me nuts. I know. Me too. Here's what Ben Shapiro. And again, remember, there are three different types of critics of Israel. You don't want to lose level three
Starting point is 00:50:04 because they're not enemies of yours. You're right. I don't know how to describe this. It's like, you know, when you root for a team, you're like, I would have never in my entire life rooted for the Knicks ever. But my God, the way Spurs played in the playoffs, you became a Knicks fan. What the hell are you doing playing so shitty when you have such big leads in every one of the games?
Starting point is 00:50:25 Never in my life that I think I was going to be a Knicks fan. But here's Ben Shapiro's response. Go forward. JD Vance appears on Megan Kelly's podcast. Remember, as we'll get to, Megan Kelly is a person who has said that the Israelis manipulated the administration into war, who has laughed along to the proposition that the Republican Party. party is a bunch of Israel-loving pedophiles. This is where the vice president chose to retail the argument. So the vice president says that actually the only reason that people would oppose the
Starting point is 00:50:51 deal is because they want endless conflict. Well, let's hear what he has to say. I think that fundamentally, if you look at what they're proposing, they're proposing an endless conflict. They want this to go on until every bomb has been dropped or until every Iranian is dead. That is not what the president of the United States wants. What he said is I said about this to end their nuclear program, to eliminate their ability to threaten their neighbors and project power, and to fundamentally make sure that no future child would have to deal with a terrorist regime with an atomic bomb. That's why the president set out to do this. Basically saying the goal, Pat, was for... I just want to know what argument Ben is making here.
Starting point is 00:51:38 It's just like a big argument he's making. Let's hear what Ben has to say. Well, an entire field of straw man is now burning because this is what we colloquially call a lie. This is a lie. An endless conflict would be, say, a 47-year conflict with an intransigent, radical Islamist enemy that wants to destroy America. Some of us have been calling for the president to end this war quickly. Like from the beginning, I've been saying for literally months that instead of signing onto a useless ceasefire that we ought to take Orban-Karga Island, open the straight. It's operations like projects.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Ben's reacting to J.B. I'll just ask one question. I know you want to move on. Let's say Israel gets the call and says for the next 60 days. Yep. Zero response. Zero. You got it.
Starting point is 00:52:27 We'll just absorb the missiles. We'll lose some soldiers. But we're going to honor your deal. You got it, sir. Boom. How's that going to play in Israel, by the way, while BB's trying to get elected? Disaster.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Bibi will not be reelected if that happens. But let's say he does. What are the chances you think Iran is actually a good faith actor and will do what they are going to write in these deals? What are the chances? Less than 5%. Okay. So this whole deal hinges on 5% chance that Iran is actually going to comply.
Starting point is 00:52:59 I think Iran, can I just give a little brevity here? You ever see that it's a weird analogy, if I may? You ever see the episode of Seinfeld when he goes to get the car? and he goes, yeah, I have the reservation. She goes, yeah, we don't, we didn't keep your reservation. She goes, he goes, see, the problem with you is you can hold the reservation, right?
Starting point is 00:53:18 You could take the reservation, but you won't hold the reservation. What's my point? Iran will sign an agreement. They're never going to honor the agreement. You just gave 5%. I give it less than that. That's the problem. We're making a deal with the devil, and Trump's trying to do this to get out of the midterms,
Starting point is 00:53:36 my suspicion, we're going to be bombing Carg Island or Iran right after midterms and eliminate Iran. That's my opinion. But we'll see what happened. But guess what? You know what's the great thing about terms and you put different points in? So when you invests. Who is the investor here? United States.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Who is the buyer? Who's the seller here? Who's the investor? Who's the receiver here? Iran would be receiving fund. So who's the investor here? The world, the U.S.? Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:03 So who typically has more control, the investor or the receiver? Of the receiver. Who has more control? The investor or the receiver? The investor. Okay, so guess what the investor gets to do with their terms? Tell me. Whatever they want. Well, that's what JD has been laying out.
Starting point is 00:54:16 That's what I'm trying to tell you. Because they're not going to get any money. Do you think this is like, yeah, here you go. Give now. I agree. Because there's a whole wing and I think you're really giving them to me for a part of this, if you really go play the 405D bullshit that people talk about, let's just say we go there.
Starting point is 00:54:31 A part of this is we gave them the deal. Yeah. Hey, the world of some of you guys. guys that were non-interventionists. We gave the deal. They still did this. Now, what do you want to do? Exactly. So we're in charge no matter what, because you're putting the money in. So the part about being the investor is you control the terms. And I fully agree with you. Great analogy. And what did Trump say? He goes, listen, we want peace. But if they don't want peace, we'll bomb the crap out of him again. And that's what's going to happen. Adam, what happens?
Starting point is 00:54:58 What happens if that bombing and all that stuff and all these people that are anti-war? What if the next president comes in? Who wants war? Who wants war? If an AOC or somebody that's not a huge fan of Israel comes in, what happens when there's an anti-Israel president like all these leftist Democrats are comes in? Then what? No, like they don't like Israel. By the way, that's a valid question. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:19 And that's why what we learned the last six years specifically is the most powerful people in D.C. is the Supreme Court. To me, the founding fathers every day get more and more credit of what these guys built. The fact that they thought about this, and it goes back to the case for America, right, to books. So if you haven't ordered it yet, you may want to go click on a link below, place the order. The fact that they placed that, the way they built it is the biggest insurance policy on how it's built. To me, for as long as I'm alive, if I have to choose, honestly, if I have to choose between a, and this is a very weird thing to say, if I have a choice between having a Republican president for 20 years straight,
Starting point is 00:56:03 but liberals control Supreme Court, six to three, or having a liberal president, but Supreme Court controls six to three, I take Supreme Court. But conservative controls Supreme Court? Liberal, I take the Supreme Court. And it's not even close. I agree.
Starting point is 00:56:17 And it's not even close. So to me, my insurance policy is, hey, Supreme Court, Supreme Court, all this other stuff, these founding fathers knew what they were doing. Let's go to the next story. Next story is, what did you guys pull up right there? Is that something I was part of this or no?
Starting point is 00:56:31 Okay, let's go to the next story. Next one I want to get into is this report that comes out. Folks, I don't know if you've seen this or read this or not. It is difficult to go through. The stories are horrendous, to say the least. And this is the Rape Gang Inquiry Report that came out. And can you guys tell me what page that was, and then I'm going to read a couple parts of it from the report.
Starting point is 00:56:55 If one of you guys tells me what page it is. Oh, there it is. The state enabled them. British MP Rupert Lowe releases whole. horrifying report on migrant rape gangs, and I'll read the executive summary, and I'll read one of the stories, and then Vinnie, I'm going to come to you, and then, Brett, I'll come to you right after that, is
Starting point is 00:57:13 this. After Restore Britain leader, Rupert Lowe, released the rape gang inquiry, which documented the systemic rape and often torture of up to 250,000 young British girls at the hands of a predominantly Muslim rape gang, SpaceX and Tesla founder Ilamas, agreed with calls for Nuremberg-style trials for the perpetrators. for the perpetrators and those who enable the Haneyist Act,
Starting point is 00:57:36 one post calling for Norfolk trials in connection to the rape gang inquiry, and then Elon saying yes, the incident, the excerpt from the report reads, the incidents of criminal activities listed in the report are drawn from court orders, official and unofficial inquiries across the country, and witness testimony provided to the inquiry. They confirmed that this was never a series of isolated local failures. It was coordinated, nationwide pattern of organized child sexual exploitation that repeated in town after town, city after city, from the far north to the south coast, the same ethnic and religious profile of the perpetrators was documented throughout almost all of the witnesses who contacted the inquiry. The report further states that the scale of the rape gang phenomenon is endemic across the entire of Britain, $250,000 across UK, and the House of Lords of Lord Pearson's of Ranch on May 29.
Starting point is 00:58:29 said, do the government accept that if we extrapolate nationally the J report on Rotherham and other reports from Telford to Oxford, there appear to have been upwards of 250,000 young white girls raped in this century very largely by Muslim men, usually several times a day for years? Okay, just to kind of give you a list of a couple of these things, and then I'm going to come to you, Vinnie. The report makes for difficult reading. You found that victims were typically between 8 to 12 years old.
Starting point is 00:58:59 8 to 12 years old. Children were forced to have sex with dogs and beaten with bats, which were then inserted into them anally and vaginally. This is disturbing to even listen to folks. In one case, a little girl's tongue was nailed to the wall
Starting point is 00:59:16 so she could not move while she was being raped by multiple men. It was also found that police were warning, by the way, this is zero-head story, were warning rapists that they were being reported in order to threaten the victim into stopping the reports, in other instances, police participated in the gang rapes themselves.
Starting point is 00:59:34 One girl was raped between 30 to 80 men, most of whom were never charged by British authorities. In another case, a little girl was told, if you don't come back, I'm going to rape your little sister instead. When one mother tried to call for help, a British police told her, you should be happy your daughter is experiencing a different culture. He then hung up on her. And last but not least, another girl was blinded by acid while trying to escape one of the rape gangs. This is
Starting point is 00:59:59 the report. And by the way, Vinnie, do you want to tell us who hasn't talked about this report at all? Chank. Hey, y'all. It's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder, what if? Like, what if it doesn't hold up? That sofa was four days old. You should have ordered from Wayfair. With Wayfair, there's no what if. Just style you love
Starting point is 01:00:15 and quality you can trust. Visit wayfair. Wayfair, every style, every home. I'm wondering where Chank? I'm wondering where Mehdi Asan, all the people... No, the other one. What is the big network that hasn't even thought? The most important. BBC. Can you imagine BBC hasn't touched on this yet? Oh, is this the same BBC that, remember the James, what was his name? The guy that worked for the BBC guy that was doing, taking advantage of all these underage people, James Cavill or Seville or something like that.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Yeah, there's a, there's a name out there, Humberto, can he guys pull it up? James Seville, like this guy was molesting and raping and nobody says anything. And I'm curious to wear all the chank and all the mediacsants. It's because these guys were Pakistani Muslim men. Could we just, like, put that out there? like 85 to 95% were Pakistani Muslim men. Okay, and this UK, you guys caused the problem, and then when the problem got crazy,
Starting point is 01:01:07 you guys tried to say, we can't report it because it's racist, okay? Unbelievable, pal, like this is hands down one of the biggest failures, and it drives me crazy. Epstein, and you guys know how I feel about Epstein, it's one of the biggest travesties and disgusting thing that's happened on a global United States everywhere level.
Starting point is 01:01:25 where are all the people crying for Did you really hear what he was just saying Forced them to have sex with animals Nailed their tongues to a wall Okay, and Pat, the story that you were talking about The girl's name is Fiona I don't want to say her last name Her mother called and that little percentage
Starting point is 01:01:41 That weren't Muslim men She called and she mentioned They had a history because she was abused by the Pakistani gang Her mother said hey, she was abused previously by an Asian Asian men and they said And I quote
Starting point is 01:01:53 You can't describe them as Asian men because that's racist. You should be glad your child is being taught a different culture. Let that think in. Yes, that's in this report. And it gets words, Adam. The report says a police officer once returned Fiona to the house where the abuse was happening and told the men
Starting point is 01:02:09 have fun with her. Unquote. Have fun with her. Okay? In another occasion, police told the abusers that if they could get Fiona to sign herself out of care, they'd stop bothering them. Adam, think about that. This is, that not only a formal action anyone took was a warning,
Starting point is 01:02:25 Nothing followed. Not one officer has ever faced trial, not one. Not one politician, not one social worker. And then everybody, Brett, everybody on that side goes after Tommy Robinson as if he's crazy. He's not crazy. We're not talking about 10,000, 100,000, 250,000. Think about that number, guys, of these young girls, these children that we're getting advantage of. And again, Brett, we're talking about the COVID thing. How is this not the number one thing? and how are Chank and Medellon and all these people dead silent, dead silent, because you're all hypocrites, all of you. So if you look at this report, the extent of it, to your point, is massive. They estimate that 40% of all the local districts in the UK had some incident.
Starting point is 01:03:10 That's crazy. If you think about every 40%? 40% of 149 local authority districts, 40% of all districts across the United Kingdom. And it goes on to say that the police forces. social services, national health service, licensing authorities all failed the victims. So when Elon Musk first got on to this, it coincided with the British Prime Minister being in town. And I had an interview with Kier Starrmer at the Blair House. And I had a whole list of questions about the tariffs and the relationship with the U.S.
Starting point is 01:03:42 And I went through all that. But I asked him specifically about this charge by Elon Musk, about these rape gangs and how serious it was. And he said, oh, I've seen the... this, you know, it's, it's, we were investigating it. I think it's overblown. I mean, that was the messaging, was that it's over. That's a cure storm. Yes. And I'll figure out the sound bite and I'll figure out how to pull it up. But it's, it's amazing if you think about if this report is anywhere near accurate, that that is the prime minister reacting to the early indications from Elon Musk on
Starting point is 01:04:18 this, this gang, rape. And it's crazy. Not to go, y'all, it's crazy. The rape thing is horrible too, but look at how bad, like the Henry Noak, the kid that was stabbed by the seat guy with the knife and then shows up and goes, oh, he's racist. And they handcuffed the kid that stabbed him bleeding out because of racism. This whole racist title to get away with freaking murder and rape, it's absolutely nuts. And that guy died in the car. And that guy died in the car and he was saying, I'm stabbed. They're like, yeah, yeah, no, you're not. No, you're not stabbed.
Starting point is 01:04:45 It's so, it's so bothering. And then, Pat, you ready for this? They're banning, U.K. is banning under 16 years old from being on. on social media, so they can't spread this type of information. They can't talk about what's happening in their freaking country. And that's a sign of what the UK is about. And they're done. They're done.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I'm going to come to you. I'm going to read this and I'll come to you here. In court records and official inquiries run 87% of those convicted in these groups-based child sexual exploitation CSE cases, Bores distinctly Muslim names. Dr. Taj Herge, the vast majority men involved in these gangs, were not convicted. He says an imam with Oxford, Islamic. congregation believes the true proportion of gang members who are Muslims to be 95%. And I'll continue to read this other last story here for you.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Dr. Hill has emphasized that the verbal abuse she endured was saturated with both racial and religious slurs. While being beaten, she was repeatedly called a white slag, a white whore, a white seawart, and simultaneously condemned as a non-Muslim who deserves punishment for failing to follow Islamical rules. Her abusers, she said, operated according to what she turned. grooming gang ideology under which they believe their crimes were religiously justified. In further detail, she breaks down, I was told that I must respect their religion.
Starting point is 01:06:02 That was the first of many confusing lies that I was forced to believe. I was told that to show them respect, I mustn't eat pork. I was told that Muslim girls are good and pure and stay virgins until marriage, but all white girls are slags, and they all sleep with hundreds of people. I was told white girls are trash, all whores. They all are lower than shit under your shoe. They don't obey Allah, so they deserve to be punished. They don't deserve modestly.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Muslim women are pure because they cover down to their ankles and down to their wrists. And then hem of their top comes below their knees. White girls show the curves of their body, so they are asking for they should be raped as punishment for not obeying Allah. This is in the report. Adam, thoughts? Makes me more pro-Israel than ever. reading that because what are the chances you think these stories are real?
Starting point is 01:06:56 What do you think, Vinny? What do you mean? What are the chances you think this is happening? This report? I don't think he'd do it because he'd get defamation of all the people that he's talking about. I think it's accurate. I think it's accurate. It's not like Adam, it's not like I was just waking up out of nowhere and saying it.
Starting point is 01:07:09 These people, Tommy Robinson has been screaming at the top of his lungs forever and everybody's been going after him for years. And he's telling you, they're not assimilating. And like, like, numbers, words talk numbers. scream, Tom? How much more can it scream in your face and your ears? Their culture and that culture does not
Starting point is 01:07:29 make... But Vinny, it sounds like you're just being Islamophobic. No, that's an irrational fear. It sounds like you... They're just trying to show their culture off. What are you doing? Hundreds of thousands of women. He's being sarcastic. I'm being sarcastic. Tom, I know the sarcasm isn't your thing. He's being sarcastic. But the reality is, I believe
Starting point is 01:07:47 every single second of this story. And I'm just going to quote the great Matt Walsh, and that I'm stumbling across his feedback yesterday because of the Jeremy Boring thing. He says, look, I'm America first all the way, but I got to tell you, I really admire the British Empire, straight up, what they've done for society, what they've done for culture. But it pains me to see the once mighty nation brought to its knees
Starting point is 01:08:08 by the barbarian hordes and an army of invaders. It's very sad to see what a tragic conclusion and so totally preventable. So when we talk about open borders, when we talk about alliances, when we talk about suicidal empathy, it's so sad to see what's going on in the UK. And my only thing is this is not going to stop around the world unless we put an end to it. And it starts there, but they don't end up here in America. Tom. Well, I have a couple angles here.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Actually, I have one angle. You know, you look at the core of liberalism in the political. sphere has evolved to the point where you need to import voters to do two things. One, to further undermine conservatism and its values. You saw the CNN story, not CNN's story, but the statistics. 90% of people identified as GOP in this particular survey, 20 years ago, respected the U.S. 90% of the GOP self-identified do. but you saw the dramatic change on the Democrat side.
Starting point is 01:09:21 So they literally come to a point where the ends justifies the means and the importation of voters into a block that they can use. Then you cross over into moral relativism because they do not believe that there is a moral truth in the Judeo-Christian standard. They don't. They believe that your truth is good for you, your truth is good for you. That's moral relativism. And so they end up, you know, it's like they grow.
Starting point is 01:09:49 the virus and then it spills and then they're stuck with the virus. That's what's happened in Minnesota and that's what's happening in the UK. And it got worse because what happened was it began to accelerate. Do you remember what happened 2010? What happened in the UK 2010 in election? His name was Lutfer Raman. I've had this on the tip of my tongue for 10 years. Lutfer Raman was the first Pakistani, and he'll say I was born in Bangladesh. It was East Pakistan and now Bangladesh. He was born there. And he brought with him as the first elected mayor in the UK to the enablement of the crimes. And you know how he did it? By putting the shackles on the police. Wait a minute. They have their own laws. They have their own beliefs. They have
Starting point is 01:10:42 their own standards. You can't arrest them for this. You can't automatically judge them for this. That's where it started. So you have this thing starting. starting in the 90s and then it gets worse because as they become elected, they're not assimilating into your laws. They're trying to impugn their laws. And if you don't think that's what you're seeing there, if you don't think that that's what they're trying to do to create that small city-state in the middle of Dallas, then you're not paying attention. Real quick, I don't know if you saw this video. We play this clip if you watched that. This is the reason why you've seen the girl wielding the axe against the potential Islamist races. Please.
Starting point is 01:11:19 this. Tell her, that's it. Don't fucking touch my leg, I start. She's defending her sister. And she got in trouble for this, and then they found out the truth. She has fucking drowned when you just potter to me, me. Yeah, because they're trying to, they're trying to touch their family. I mean, this is what it's come down to in the UK.
Starting point is 01:11:42 School children have to walk around with axes to prevent them from being raped. But can you question? Pat, but can I should question no, Pat? Why? Predominantly 85 to plus Muslim, Muslim men. What, what, is it the mentality of like? This is what I told Medea San. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I don't care. I work, you know, there's a lot of criticism of Scientologists. Yes. Right? You know, a lot of criticism. Of course. I ran an office in Granada Hills where half the people in my office were all Scientologists. Okay?
Starting point is 01:12:11 How do you think my experience was with them? Great. Phenomenal. Yes. I didn't have a day. A couple of them came from the Q organization. which I don't know if it's called C.org organization. There's a name for it.
Starting point is 01:12:22 I don't know the exact name for it. These guys would work 100 hours a week without even flinching because that's what they did working for the church for $20 a month or $20 or whatever it was, right? Great experience. Mormons get a lot of criticism. If you watch Godmakers, the old documentary one, part two, I've seen all of it, right?
Starting point is 01:12:39 I've never had a bad experience with Mormons. So all I judge for is where are you from and how do you contribute to society? this is specifically targeted to what country of rape gangs? This is Pakistani. This is Pakistani. So to me, I don't know where you're coming from. I like data.
Starting point is 01:12:59 If I run an insurance company and I identify, well, let you say we're not licensing our guys well enough. I want to target to see what states license the highest percentage. What states take how many days to get somebody licensed. And then I judge that state based on the regulation and which brokers run that office If you're Pakistani, we're not taking any Pakistani's coming in. But if I run the same report and they're coming from Saudi and let you say the percentage is super small, let's take a look at that. I want people that are coming that assimilate that want to contribute to society. We have to look at the data.
Starting point is 01:13:33 This isn't about you guys are Islamophobia. No, no. These are people that have families and kids that want to make sure their kids are protected to go outside. whatever place you come in from, if you're causing this, shut it down, don't take another single migrant coming in from that country at all whatsoever because you don't have to. Data reveals everything, and the one thing you notice, for people like here Starmer, they're frightened of data.
Starting point is 01:14:00 You have no idea how many times you can't pull up any data. You know in America we can pull up some data. You can't even pull up the data. They don't track the data to pull it. Why are you not tracking the data? What are you hiding? Who doesn't want to know the data? So I'm glad this guy did this, and I hope there's more of it.
Starting point is 01:14:14 I'm glad a guy like Elon Musk all the way at the top is pushing even more for it. So let me get to the next door. Next door I'm going to get into is Fox News reports. Pro baseball team forfeits Pride Night game after players refuse to wear themed jerseys organizations say. Okay. So there's two stories here. And then I'm going to come to you guys and let's go through this. A professional baseball team in Pennsylvania will be forfeiting game Thursday that was scheduled to be the team's pride night after players refused to wear the LGBTQ.
Starting point is 01:14:44 themed jerseys, the team announced the York Revolution and the Atlantic League, the same league in which Trevor Bauer plays said the decision was not reached lightly in announcing that forfeit against the Southern Maryland Blue Crabbs, the team was not afraid to show its players, the bus in a rather scathing statement saying it was deeply troubled and profoundly disappointed by the decision of these few players to be cleared. The action by the players is completely inconsistent with our vision of the most welcoming place in York. The team statement continued the jerseys, which would have been worn by the team's 11th annual Pride night, has rainbow sleeves. The team announced it would be making a $10,000 donation to the Rainbow Rose Center as a small token of our regret for the last minute change of plans and support for our LGBT representative, partners, etc.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Despite no game being played, the revolution will still host a free and fun celebration recognition and inclusion on Thursday night. Now, the next story I'll go to which is kind of together is this one here. in Sanson Christian Board and Bible verses, yeah. So this is a not a major league baseball team. Now, a bunch of major league baseball guys came out, steered a hornet nest, and probably had no idea stepped on when its chief communication officer,
Starting point is 01:15:57 let the media know the Christian San Francisco Giants pitcher who inscribed Bible verses under Pride Night Caps last week has been warned about their violations. What? Worn about their violations. Is this the clip that explained that, by the way? Humberto, is this the clip you guys got?
Starting point is 01:16:12 that that explains that that you guys have here on the screen. Is he explained, go for it, play the clip. Republican U.S. Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri has joined the growing clamor over the San Francisco Giants Pride Night Caps, worn during Friday night's game against the Cubs. He has sent a letter to MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred, calling out what he calls a pattern of discrimination against Christian ballplayers.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Three Giants players wrote Bible verses on their Pride Giants caps, including the Giants' starting. pitchers cap, which featured Genesis 9, 12 through 16, next to the rainbow giant's emblem. That's a reference to a rainbow being a sign from God of his promise never again to send a worldwide flood. MLB acknowledges warning the players, saying that this violates the uniform policy. They're not allowed to write on their uniforms. And the MLB says this is not a disciplinary action.
Starting point is 01:17:09 It has absolutely nothing to do with the content of the men. messages that they put on their caps. You can pause it right here. Vin, your thoughts on this story. Well, I mean, this is why people are completely fed up with this nonsense. If you guys all remember, MLB wants to pretend about this uniform policy, for how many years did they play political billboards for a year? They allowed Black Lives Matter stenciled on the pitching mounds. They approved jersey patches that said Black Lives Matter or what was the other one?
Starting point is 01:17:34 United for change. They relaxed equipment rules so players could wear political slogans. Nobody cared about the rules then. Okay, nobody was threatened. nobody got warned, but now three Christian players, Pat, I want to give them credit where credits do. Landon Raup, J.T. Brewbaker, and Ryan Walker. Good for you guys. Good for you guys. They're putting something on them that's promoting God. And by the this is an isolated incident, Pat. Already, they had undercutter investigation involving the Washington Nationals where an executive admitted
Starting point is 01:18:02 a Catholic player was intentionally left out of a promotional material because of his faith. Okay. The executive was fired, good for him, but only after the anti-Christian bigotry got exposed, okay? So if the ideology is approved by the league, they can celebrate it, they can market it, and they can shove it everywhere. If it's Christianity, then it's a problem, okay? And this is my thing. Sports, to me, is a place pat where you can go and disconnect from politics, from culture, from all that nonsense. But these leagues are infected with everything about this activism. So here's the answer. Either everybody gets freedom of expression or nobody does. If pride flags are allowed, Bible verses are allowed. Plain and simple.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Tom. I don't like the hypocrisy on both sides. Brett, where are you out with it? Yeah, listen, it's a story and it's a culture story and it affects people. People react to it. The Major League Baseball is saying it was a routine warning and had nothing to do with the content of the message. However, you know, it seems like the Christian message usually is the focus of some of this, the warnings. And so I think it really does stir up people. And it's something that as we get closer to elections, actually moves the needle on some of these culture issues. You know, the only baseball team that didn't do it is the Rangers. When I came to the States, the team I root up, till today, the number 19 is in every one of my
Starting point is 01:19:26 emails, okay? And every one of my emails, the number 19 exists. You know why? Juan Gonzalez. I was a diehard Texas Rangers fan. So the Rangers didn't do Pride Night. They did Faith and Family Night, Vinny, the Rangers. Faith and family night is what they did. I love it. And so they chose to do that. Tom, where are you at with this? I know you're a big baseball guy.
Starting point is 01:19:45 So I look at it like this. You give me a contract to play baseball. That's my uniform. I consent to that. I don't want any political messages on the uniforms. I give you the following exception. A lot of professional sports, I won't dig into the legality of it. They have these monopoly exemptions that are given to them by the federal government.
Starting point is 01:20:07 NFL has one they're really worried about. And okay, well, you're here in the United States, and we honor the Fourth of July. We honor Veterans Day. We honor Memorial Day. And professional sports does fatigues and Army, Navy, Air Force-themed fatigues or things. And they're very popular. People buy the jersey of their favorite player. You've seen them, Pat.
Starting point is 01:20:31 That looks like the gray-blue fatigue of the Navy, and I've got my favorite player on. I have no trouble with that. I think that's part of America. I think that's part of it. But once you start this, once you go down this path, right? You know, in spring training, they've done green hats for St. Patrick's Day as long as I can remember if anybody pays attention to Major League Baseball on that. And they all honor Jackie Robinson.
Starting point is 01:20:59 But soon as you cross that line there and you now say, well, this is going to be Pride Night, where do you stop? where do you stop? And you've got players saying, if I'm asked to get behind something that I inherently disagree with, why can't I just comment? And what these players were just saying, the Christian message was, hey, I think you kind of hijacked the rainbow. And where I come from, rainbows are a promise from God that I'll never do it again. And so I think baseball goes down the same place football ended up with a lot of controversy. And then they gave all the teams latitude to do everything. But I challenge you this. With the green light on DEI rollback 18 months ago,
Starting point is 01:21:45 how many companies are rolling back DEI? How many companies have said, well, we don't really need a chief DEI officer. We're just going to make sure that that paragraph at the bottom of all of our HR stuff says we're an equal opportunity employer for any of these things, race, creed, color, origin, orientation, everything. You can come work here. That's it. And so, but now D.E.I is being pulled back. And I think, I think baseball is foolish to allow this to become a story. Yeah. Well, it is, Adam.
Starting point is 01:22:16 It is a story. I agree with Vinny. I'm just going to, I'm going to take it up a notch. Okay. Okay. Because I think the, the methodology and what they're thinking is absolutely correct. They're just, the way they're going about it, they've got to go differently. You got to lean into the bit.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Okay. Instead of doing a Bible verse, you got to go, you know, I say, don't go full. Yes. You got to go full LGBT. You see what the Savannah bananas are doing these days? Take in baseball by storm. So what I would do, if I was a baseball player, if you go too serious, people are like, oh, he's a white Christian nationalist. By the way, I do agree we need more faith and family in our country, certainly in baseball.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Make your point. I would lean into the big. Tell me. I would dye my hair pink. Yeah. I'd wear a rainbow cape. I'd probably put a unicorn hat on right there. I'd wear high heels instead of cleats.
Starting point is 01:23:04 and then I'd wear an extra large cup, or maybe I'd just cut it off. So a regular Saturday for you. Full go LGBT. So that's the way you do this. You have to clown them if they're trying to clown you. I kind of like that. I would take a very different angle with this.
Starting point is 01:23:18 And here's where I go with this. First of all, let's go through pros and cons. Are there fines if you don't follow the Pride Night Rules? No. No. There are no fines. What benefits do you get? Do you know when I pulled up data,
Starting point is 01:23:32 there is no fines, by the way, if you don't wear it? No, MLB doesn't find teams who don't celebrate Pride Night. So the Rangers didn't get fined. Teams are fining players. Teams are saying, hey, you better not. MLB doesn't have that at the top. So then you go through a couple stats and just look at it and say, well, how big of a fan of MLB is the LGBTQ community?
Starting point is 01:23:53 It's the smallest sport they follow, even though there's bats. And they're going to say there's bats and balls. I figured that'd be right at the rally. There's not much interest there. Okay. So then when you go into other stats and you think about the sports, okay, just think baseball politically. Fans and players, NBA, fans politically lean to the left, mostly progressive. Fans of the NBA are mostly progressive, the most progressive, by the way.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Major League Baseball, Republican, Center rights is where there are baseball fans. They're on the right. These are fans, not players, fans. NFL split 50-50, Democrats and Republicans, both. of the NFL, NHL, mostly Republican and conservative. Now, if you go to players, NBA players, where do you think they lean? 70, 80% they're going to be on the left, right? Strong league Democratic.
Starting point is 01:24:44 NFL players, Democratic leaning, not as much as the NBA. MLB players mixed. NHL players mixed. So if you know what the audience is, what are you doing? And players, if you're not going to get fanned, why are you wearing it? If you're not going to get fined, don't wear it. Find me. You know back in the days, one of the things that made Nike story the biggest,
Starting point is 01:25:08 when Nike went in, they signed Michael Jordan, you know what one of the rules was in the NBA? You cannot have red shoes. Did you know this? You couldn't have red shoes. So you know what the NBA did? The NBA fined Michael $5,000 per game that he wore red shoes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Do you know who paid for it? Nike paid for it. You know what ended up happening? One of the biggest stories of all time. Guess who finally adjusted? The NBA adjusted. And they're like, who gives a shit if shoes are red? Today there's pink shoes, purple shoes, green shoes.
Starting point is 01:25:38 I don't give a shit. Make your shoes and sell them. That's all I care about. What's the moral of the story? Why don't MLB players do this? I'm not wearing it. I'm not wearing it. I'm just not going to wear it.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Find me. Do you realize what happens if an MLB player says, I'm not going to wear this? Don't even do the cross. Don't even do the scripture. Just wear the regular Giants hat. Wear the regular Dodgers hat. where the regular Yankees had.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Let them find you. If the team finds you, let's find out which teams are finding players for the religious beliefs. Why do I care what you do in your bedroom? Why do I care who you're attracted to? Why is that such an important discussion? Why should this even be a topic? Who cares if you're Gary or straight? Why is it any of my business?
Starting point is 01:26:20 It shouldn't be any of my business. Can you imagine celebrating saying, hey, guys, I'm straight? You're like, I don't care if you're heterosexual night? Yeah. You're heterosexual night. Can you imagine how weird that would be? Remember the New York Times? So to me, I want to see the player who doesn't wear it and gets fined.
Starting point is 01:26:38 I want to see that guy. I want to see the guy that doesn't wear it and gets fined. And the first MLB player that does it, I'll say it right now. I don't know if it's still going on or no. Is it still going on? Five months? I want the first MLB player that gets fined. I'll pay the fine.
Starting point is 01:26:52 I will pay your fine. Contact us. Wear the hat proudly and say, I'm not wearing the prize. Let them suspend you. contact us. We will recognize you for having the brass to say, I don't care who you sleep with at night because it's none of my business
Starting point is 01:27:07 and none of my kids' business, period. Leave it. Let us just play the game. You know what was great about this year's NBA finals game? Why got more viewership than all the bullshit LeBron finals that he would be on except from the one that they made a comeback, which was a decent one? You know why the NBA's doing okay? Brunson is not talking politics.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Yep. Wemby's not talking politics. I hope Wemby doesn't. because Popovich is in his ear. Yes, big time. And Popovich does. If they don't, we just want to see a fight. That's it.
Starting point is 01:27:33 We just want to see a good game, and it was good. So I hope they go back to that. And I encourage MLB players to be inspired by what Michael and Nike did back in the days when it was a $5,000 fine for wearing red shoes. And eventually, nobody adjusted. Whoever has the stronger conviction, the other one adjust to you. Obviously, the MLB is shown bigger conviction than players. And players are adjusting and saying, I'll wear this at. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:27:56 What are you doing? You have your conviction. You let them change some things like this. This is values and principles. You don't make me change my values and principles. Who the hell are you? Who are you? No.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Bullshit. Stand up for what you believe and let them find you. Let your family and your kids to see, I'm willing to pay the fine because this is more important than the fine. Your kids are going to be like, that's my daddy, that's my mommy. These are the decisions we got to make. I actually don't like this at all. And I want to see more players go all the way to sharing your convictions.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Let them find you. Let them suspend you. Let them do that to you. This is not acceptable and I'm not okay with the MLB doing this. This is my opinion. I'm probably going to get in trouble for this and I want to get a phone call. But I don't care. I don't stand with this decision. I want to see strong MLB players wear your team jersey as you're playing the game.
Starting point is 01:28:47 All right, so that's that. And by the way, good news with Trevor Bauer. He's throwing a 94 and a half mile an hour pitch right now 35. He said 10 years ago, the average was 94. right now the average is 96. So Trevor Brower has what it takes to get back into the thing. Is he going to make it back to the league? I think he is.
Starting point is 01:29:02 If I'm a betting man on Cali, I'm saying he's coming back. It's coming back. They're playing. By the end of July, I think I think somebody needs to pick him up. All right, let's go into the next story. What time we got here? We got time for stories. Let's go into the Joe Rogan story.
Starting point is 01:29:15 So here's Joe Rogan. Joe claims multiple U.S. presidents directly contacted Spotify in an effort to get his show taken down. Here's Joe. I can't even talk about it, but there was presidents involved and former presidents involved that were contacting Spotify. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, trying to get me removed for vaccine misinformation. Yeah. That turned out to be right.
Starting point is 01:29:44 All of it. Not a single fucking apologize. Interviewing the dude that invented MRNA. Oh, yeah. And the most published doctor in his field. Not a single apologize. Not a single apology from anybody. not a single retraction, not a single, you know, me a culpah, not a single we were wrong.
Starting point is 01:30:02 And, you know, I lost a lot of sponsors. I lost a lot a lot during those days. It was interesting. There was a time where it was working. Wow. Yeah. I didn't know there was that much coordination. Oh, there was a lot of work.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Who do you think? I mean, we know one of the presidents was Biden that we know, and it's not really Biden as Jill, but it's the administration, Kamala. Who else would it be? Barack Obama. Okay, so if you got Obama as the other one, that would possibly do it. He did say former, and he wasn't on Spotify until September 1st, 2020. Do you really think GW cares?
Starting point is 01:30:37 I don't think he cares or nothing. Do you think Hillary Clinton cares? Well, she wasn't a president. She did chair. I think it is tied to her husband. I don't think Bill cares. I don't think Bill actually would be a great podcast on Joe. Bill ever did a Joe Rogan podcast.
Starting point is 01:30:51 It would be a phenomenal podcast. Yeah, if they did that podcast. So what do you think about this yourself? You know, you're on the, you're on mainstream, you're Fox, you're on that side. What do you think when you hear a story like this spread? I think it's scary. And it goes back to our first story about Tulsi Gabbard and that information today. And by the way, we're investing, you know, some time in special report to go dig into that some more and where it goes and what we talked about at the beginning of the show.
Starting point is 01:31:16 But I mean, this is, that's the scary thing is that if you look back, again, whatever happened to, this is, you know, the, you know, the, the entire squelching of all of that information in the early days. And Joe is right. It got to the point where it was, you know, dangerous. They were going to yank them. And it was pressure, real pressure. And yet years later, it turns out all of the things that he was talking about and the interviews he was doing turn out to be true, where we are looking back at the disease,
Starting point is 01:31:50 looking back at COVID. So I think it's scary. I think, you know, we talk about freedom in my book, The Case for America, freedom of speech and how important it is, freedom to pick up and go where you want to go. But when you see this and a government coming down, it has to be a red alert, you know, sirens going up. Tom. Well, God bless Daniel Eck, and thank God he wasn't in the U.S. where they could get him with tax and other tools. Yeah. He was on a hill that they couldn't use any of their weaponized techniques or the FCC necessarily to, well, they could use the FCC if this was more difficult.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Spotify's in Sweden, right, Tom? Yeah. And by the way, you know, you take FCC rules on it. I'll show you 30 seconds how to put a VPN on your phone and then go get where you're not supposed to get. That's how the Chinese do it right now. So I think, you know, thank you, Daniel Eck, for doing this. but the other side of it, what this shows is that the cancel culture was real, and that what the left was willing to do to protect its turf was not to allow debate,
Starting point is 01:33:02 but to suppress it. And so the side that calls us, oh, you're this totalitarian regime, yet you're the ones trying to push freedom of speech out the door. You're the one trying to cancel voices. you're the one that wants to pull back on debate. Really? Who's the dictator now? Who's the king now?
Starting point is 01:33:24 And I'm looking, if you've got a report coming on this, God bless you. I'm looking forward to seeing where that came from. I'm looking forward to seeing where the angles, because we've seen things that we know what the Obama administration is capable of, and we know what Hillary Clinton is capable of, because now the Russian stuff is all public, and we've seen the federal memoranda, and we've seen the defense, excuse me, DNA memorandum on that, Pat, right?
Starting point is 01:33:50 So guess what? This is just chapter two. But think about this. Joe Rogan, remember the Ivermectin? He was sick. He was taking Ivermectin and CNN changed the colors. And they said it was a horse medication and how dairy is endangering the population. Oh, yeah, the Chris Cuomo.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Now it turns out that Ivermectin is, people go, oh, yeah, that's something you could use. Oh, yeah, you mean the Chris Cuomo's and everybody's saying that, I remember the actual segment where he's like in a world of terror and everything you know what's big worse is your fellow American he literally said the unvaccinated the people that aren't vaccinated we're the terror it like that's that's basically what he was saying which is absolutely ridiculous and the fact that that we're assuming which i would put money on it that the two presidents were uh Biden and Obama that just shows the power of Obama and who was really pulling the strings because he was on a podcast remember when he goes if there was a way that I could be in a basement with an earpiece and tell them
Starting point is 01:34:42 what to do I would do it and mind you this is this is a power of it's a lot of the same Biden administration that send the feds to Twitter and Facebook to bury stories. Barry the Hunter Biden laptop, which had all the freaking big guy, all the payments and everything, and the COVID stuff. So you mean to tell me you guys were suppressing stories besides the Hunter Biden thing, the effectiveness or the problems with a vaccine that you guys pushed with the deep state guy that was Fauci that was under President Trump. And that's why Brad drives me crazy when people are like, well, the, the, the, the, the, the, um, the, the, the, um, the, the, the, the, the, the, What's it called? Operation Warp Speed happened under Trump.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Yeah, you mean a president that was getting told from a Fauci who was in for how many presidents? How many presidents far back did Fauci go? Maybe five presidents. That's the problem. So the fact that they're pushing it and they knew it wasn't safe is, again, going back to the main story of how unbelievable it is. And now we're just supposed to move on and go to the next story. You do need to give Chris Cuomo some grace. He came out and did an about face on Ivermectin, said he was taking Ivermectin,
Starting point is 01:35:44 And he went back and said that what the things that Joe Rogan said were correct. This is like two years ago. And he was on this podcast and made comments about that. Now, there are other things that Chris has held the line on on his previous positions. But on that one point on Ivermectin, you do got to give him grace because he's one of the few people that turned the other way and said,
Starting point is 01:36:01 hey, yes, yes. I just think it's overdue for Vinny and Chris to have a celebrity fight. And we just do it in the gym here and watch that happen. So. Oh, just add one thing. How many smaller podcasts that we don't know. about, I mean, Joe Rogan's on Spotify. How many smaller podcasts just got
Starting point is 01:36:18 a lot of them? How many people? A lot of them. You know, it backfired. Can we show that picture with Rogan when he literally looked like? You're right. Of course. All the strikes. We showed that picture of Rogan. We saw Rogan, UFC's a stocked, you know, pretty tan guy. Guy looked like he was the incredible Hulk. I know he's big. They made him green.
Starting point is 01:36:35 There it is right there. Disgusting. I mean, that's what CNN did to Joe Rogan. Unbelievable. So no wonder trust is at all time low. But the last thing, if people start taking Iver Meck or if people actually just start getting outside and work it out, you know what it messes with? The big farm of money. You see the movie Friday when he goes, hey, you mess with my money, he's like mess with my emotions. You start messing with Pfizer, Moderna, J&J's money.
Starting point is 01:36:58 You're going to get a call from the president. Yeah. So let's go to the next story. Next door I want to get into is the Obama Presidential Library. Is this the one that's $850 million that they came up with? By the way, the names, the people that showed up to this place, I don't know if you saw the list of names of people that showed up. Celebrities.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Like everybody on the celebrity side, Jill Biden was there, obviously, with her husband, Joe, Clintons, Bushes, Newsom, Pelosi, Trudeau. There's even a clip with Newsom and Trudeau talking about Trump Merkel. Celebrities included Oprah Winfrey. She's from Chicago. Tom Hanks, Spielberg, George Lukers, Letterman, Stephen Colbert, Conan O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:37:41 A lot of people showed up. and the president was being interviewed with he and his wife, and the question was asked, what is the one word for the rest of your life, and what do you guys want to do? And here's what they each had to say. Go forward. One word to describe your next chapter.
Starting point is 01:37:57 One word. What's her name? Me. Robin. Robin Roberts. That's what you call. Drop the mic. Divorce him.
Starting point is 01:38:08 You know what you seem to be. Selfishness. Yeah. It's about me. So that happens. And then while the event is going on, by the way, $850,
Starting point is 01:38:17 I saw a picture that said, here's an $850 million dollar library, and then here's an $850 million dollar Trump Tower. It doesn't even, if you look at the buildings, have you seen the pictures of what this place looks like? It's the ugliest? By the way,
Starting point is 01:38:30 I'm not even saying this, because, you know, I actually enjoy watching Trump's Obama's interviews when he would be on Leno on different things. It looks like a prison. It looks like they build a prison. It looks like the place is filled with inmates. Can you show the picture of what this place looks like?
Starting point is 01:38:46 It doesn't look like that. That's the construction. No, but that looks like a legit prison you're building because Chicago needs quite a few prisons because, you know, the crime is quite high there. My turn is what? Honestly, at first I thought his way of giving back to the city was to build a ridiculous prison.
Starting point is 01:39:04 This is the way I want to make it safer. So, Brad, what do you put your thoughts on this library here? But that's not the final product. It's not a special. There's a new one. you're right. I mean, there's a lot of people there in that town, like in that, just around that area, around the library
Starting point is 01:39:19 who have a problem with it as far as how it's been built. They haven't paid. There's criticism. They haven't paid all the workers. And there's all kinds of controversy around it itself. But that's the finished product right there. Some people called it the Death Star.
Starting point is 01:39:35 Other people, I mean, it is quite something. And you go inside, apparently, and, you know, it's obviously an homage to the Obama presidency, but it costs a ton of money. And you think about the difference between President Obama and this effort to get, you know,
Starting point is 01:39:56 he has all this money that came in. President Biden doesn't have any of that. He's not going to have a single presidential library. As of now, he doesn't have any. $4 million. That's all they've raised. They were planning on building a place that's going to be $200 to $300 million. He's raised $4 million. And is this the clip you were talking?
Starting point is 01:40:12 about where's my granddaughter. Folks, watch this. So the Obama's done. He was getting off the stage, maybe turn off the music at the beginning, and then you'll see who makes a, another, you know, watch this. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Yeah, I'm having fun. See, this is fun. At least he's living up to his word. Look at Jill. Look at Jill. Jill's like, oh, yeah, let me get off the stage. Yeah, come on. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Let's go. Look at Jill. Jill's gone. Guess who she forgot. How do you do that? Guess who she forgot? The guy that she knows, Ken. Doesn't know what the hell's going.
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Starting point is 01:42:12 Now playing All Neon Theater's. Tickets's available now. Yeah, lost. My granddaughter. That's just not a good look. I feel bad for him. Like, what are they doing? Well, it's also the anniversary of the G7 when he just started walking.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Yeah, where's my granddaughter? Shame on that. Words talk number scream. And I'll tell you who's lost on this. The taxpayers of Chicago, a city and county in Chicago were told there'd be about $123 million. This is a real number. It ended up being $200 million. because they move sewer lines, electric lines, and infrastructure and did things with the soils,
Starting point is 01:42:54 so they'd be appropriate for a structure of that size. Number one. Number three, in an homage to the way bills work in Washington, they announced that it would be a $350 million bill, but ended up being an $850 million bill. I'm being very sarcastic, but that's what ended up being the single most expensive presidential library of all time. then you know what an endowment is viny an endowment is a stack of money that maybe a a college would have and the interest and they have like a hundred million endowment the interest that comes off that every year maybe allows them pay four or five prominent professors and they
Starting point is 01:43:34 call those like an endowed chair so they get the services of somebody who's getting paid and thanks to this big bucket of money that gives interest every year now you've got these great professors And so as the story would go, that tuition wouldn't have to be so high and you still had great professors. So they wanted to have a $450 million endowment, Pat, to pay the annual operating costs and to offset the burden on city services for it. Would you like to know how much is in the endowment account today when they cut the ribbon on the Obama library? How much? Zero. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:44:11 So they told to Chicago. I'll go, we only need $125,000, we need $200, and we're going to have a $450 million endowment. The interest will help us pay operating costs and everything else. They currently have NADA. Tom, is that real? That is a thousand. Unbelievable. So who gets, who's responsible for that?
Starting point is 01:44:29 Does that fall on Obama or does that fall on the people that manage the whole endowment? He's going to say, it's just my name on the library and it was a... But really, though. Just be fair. Is it on him or... Every presidential library has an explanation. Lotatory Committee, just like running for, they look for a location and they look for a municipality to give them some land because they're going to get the library and things like that.
Starting point is 01:44:52 And then they do, they create a committee so that the candidate Obama, the President Obama, isn't actually personally liable or involved. They're going to put his name on it, but it's Friends of Obama Committee. It's DNC. They all come together like that. But there is a library committee that he's involved with, but they keep the president himself kind of at arm's length. He brings his name, he brings all these artifacts of his personal collection, and all the things are going in there.
Starting point is 01:45:17 And so somewhere there's a committee that did this. It's embarrassing. Yeah, well, as some of the great, I forget who said this, but it was a management professor who said, to err as human, to really eff it up, you need a committee. Fred, question for you. You were one of the first at Fox to interview Obama in 09, I think, about the whole health care debate that took place. And it's interesting watching that video from now 17 years ago. What was he like the first time you guys sat down together?
Starting point is 01:45:49 It was amazing. It was only three days before the Obamacare vote in the House. So that was the focus was health care. Three days before. So this is the topic of discussion everywhere. Everywhere. And so I had about 100 questions, you know, very detailed. I was really ready.
Starting point is 01:46:05 We start out and the White House says, I'm going to have 30 minutes in the blue room. And we set up the whole thing. The president walks in and he says, okay Brent we're going to do this for 20 minutes and I said whatever time you can give me Mr. President that's great so I start and I asked the first question and his answer is four minutes long and I asked the second question and it's three minutes long and there is a staff member behind in my view of the camera with a clock that's ticking backwards from 20 so I'm seeing the
Starting point is 01:46:36 time drained down at that point I had to make a decision you know whether I I was going to challenge him and interrupt. And eventually I did. And some of those questions are about, do you get to keep your doctor? You know, what exactly is happening with all these side deals that you're getting lawmakers to sign off and vote on this? And looking back at that, it was significant,
Starting point is 01:47:01 but at the moment I was criticized left and right, really left by interrupting the president. No, but I mean, you do it respectfully, and I've seen you do that what other people, as well. What was he like off camera? Yeah, he was engaging. He, uh, he was, you know, he was perturbed that I was, uh, you know, interrupting. But after after the interview, we did a walk and talk and you know, he was, he was engaging. He, he didn't as president really bring in even liberal lawmakers to the White House. He was not really into that. He's like the opposite of Bill Clinton and
Starting point is 01:47:38 Donald Trump, who really works a room, whether it's left a room. right. President Obama, he has an interesting in dealing with reporters, but he never brought in Capitol Hill up to the White House. Interesting. How different was he than, because you've sat down with pretty much every president, you've sat down with Bernie Sanders, you've sat down with Clinton, you've sat down with Zelensky, Bibi, the list is long in Moscow. You've interviewed pretty much everybody. Kirstarmer. How different was he from Bill Clinton? different. You know, he wanted to stay at 30,000 feet, and he wanted to control the time. And I wanted to get into specifics. The difference with Donald Trump, first of all, you know, Donald Trump, you have to get in on the breath, you know, when he gives you an opportunity.
Starting point is 01:48:28 But eventually, he's trying to answer the question that you've asked. Bill Clinton, you know, could not answer a question better than most politicians because he would say you're the only one in the room and he would focus and he would answer the question, but he could do it in a way that didn't give you the substance you were looking for. Barack Obama, I think, liked the filibuster, you know, and so he would take the time and say that's what I want to control. Yeah, it's almost a gift that he has because he uses the um. He doesn't mind.
Starting point is 01:49:01 You know, they tell you, like, you go take these speaking, don't use um. He's all about the um. And the um is a superpower for him. Because 80 ums lengthens a 30 second answer to four minutes. Yeah. You know, well, he kind of drags it out. How do you prepare when you're moderating debates? What's your method of preparing for him?
Starting point is 01:49:21 You know, I try to get the tightest questions I can. So I'm trying to take politicians off of their talking points. So ideally, I'm murder bored. I'm not a lawyer, but I assume on a deposition you're trying to think about what the answer is and where you go next. And so that's what I'm trying to do. But the main thing, and my late friend, Tim Russert, I used to fly back and forth to New York sitting next to him. And I said, wow, you have an amazing style on your interviews. And he said, Brett, it's not about the questions.
Starting point is 01:49:51 It's about listening to the answers. Don't worry about the list of your questions. Really focus on the answers so that you can redirect. And that's where the news is. The follow-up. Yeah. And so from that point on, those conversations with Tim Russert, that's how I focused on it. Very interesting.
Starting point is 01:50:10 But today, who is known as the heavyweight of people that they hired them for debate coach? Who are the best debate coaches today that heavy weights use? That's a great question. You know, on the left, Ron Clayne seems to be the guy that they bring in. And I don't know if he's been successful or not, but he gets called. and on the right, you know, it varies. President Trump used Chris Christie early on. He doesn't have a great relationship now.
Starting point is 01:50:40 But I think it varies. Some of the guys are really good at it. Obviously, President Trump is really good at seeing the moment and saying something that takes everything, like every attention. He has the sound bite in him. Others have that. I think debates are fact. I think we could probably do it differently so that we have more interaction between the candidates.
Starting point is 01:51:04 How would you change it? I would do less of the staged, you know, have more of the interaction. And I think Jim Laird did it well. He stepped back and he was, you know, you didn't focus on the moderator. When the moderator becomes the focus, it's the wrong thing. Do you think right now in the state of Florida, Byron Donald's, who's the leading candidate, he's at 50, 51 percent, second place is James Fishback he's at 8%. Third place is
Starting point is 01:51:31 Jay Collins. Jay Collins was at 5% Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins and there's this point of there's no reason for Byron to debate and Byron saying if these guys said 10, 11% he and DeSantis went into a little bit DeSantis said there should be a debate Byron says there shouldn't be, there's no need to be a debate
Starting point is 01:51:50 what do you stand with that? I'm always in favor of debates. I think it's good for the voter and if he's at 51% he shouldn't have anything to fear. I understand what Governor DeSantis is saying, just to respect the process. But you know, President Trump came to that same conclusion, and he didn't engage in primary debates. But he was already a president. Like, Byron isn't a governor yet. Exactly. So he, it's not like he's already in. There's a different moral authority that Trump had versus Byron. And by the way, Byron, 51%, you're going to be the guy, right? Do you think it hurts him
Starting point is 01:52:22 if he doesn't do the debate when it comes? You do? I do. In what way? Just because why, right? Listen, if you believe that you're going to be governor of the state of Florida, you can handle these guys. They're at 5%, 4%. Take your moment. If the advisor, let me play the role of the advice. The other guy, yeah. So the advisor says, don't do it, Byron.
Starting point is 01:52:42 You don't need to do it. They're going to forget about it. There's only 62 days left. There's only 61 days left. Just hang in there. New cycle will move on. It's fine. Let's focus on the general election.
Starting point is 01:52:50 I get it. And it's probably good advice. But, you know, holding the ball for any team, you know, that has a big lead, sometimes is not the way to go. Sometimes you've got to keep on on the offensive. Prevent defense. Yeah, prevent defense.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Preventing you from winning, potentially. What's the worst thing that could happen if he does it? So let's go to the worst case. He could have a big mistake. Somebody could really jump on him. That's a sound bite that gets picked up, and maybe it ticks down. But with President Trump's support in Florida,
Starting point is 01:53:23 I have a hard time believing that there could be something that catacly that changes his trajectory. If the president is in his ear, and we speculate here, do you think President Trump, if he's given Byron Donald's advice, would say do the debate or don't do the debate? Don't do the debate. He would say don't do the debate. You think so? I do. Really?
Starting point is 01:53:42 Now, I'm coming from a moderator's point of view, and I'm advocating for debates, and for the voter, I think it's just better, and for the candidate. I think you get better. And you're better in a general election. if you were able to spar like that. You know, we saw this in Mike Bloomberg. He didn't do any town halls before that first debate that he did
Starting point is 01:54:03 and he got eviscerated by Elizabeth Warren. Remember that? We offered him town halls and all kind of like... They don't want to do it. Because he just wanted it. And he stepped into that debate and he got killed. Do you think, like, if the market were to look at whether Byron Donald's is more team Trump than Team Descentes?
Starting point is 01:54:24 We know he's Team Trump. He's not Team Sanchez. Okay. Do you think in Florida, not nationwide, in Florida, Florida, people love DeSantis. I mean, the guy won $1.5 million, the first time $34,000, second time $1.5 million, Dade County was just... In Miami. In Miami, which is like how important you think it is for Donald's to also have DeSantis' support and his audience?
Starting point is 01:54:50 I think it's significant in Florida. I really do. I think DeSantis carries weight here. Do you think DeSantis eventually say Donald's goes with a strategy, and when it comes down to it, do you think DeSantis will be cornered into endorsing Byron Donald's no matter what, even if he doesn't do a debate, or you think there could be a possibility of DeSantis not endorsing him?
Starting point is 01:55:11 I have a hard time believing that DeSantis is going to not endorse the candidate that Trump endorsed, in part because he wants that relationship. And if you're looking at 2028 and you think he's going to get in, he's going to want at least Trump not to be going after him. Yeah. Yeah, that's an interesting take. Adam. Well, correct me if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 01:55:31 I don't think he's going to do the debate, but there's going to be a general debate if he ends up running. Of course. So there's going to be a debate in the general. Just not a primary. Exactly, not a primary. And Trump did the same thing. And there's some case examples here.
Starting point is 01:55:43 I think he's looking at the field. There's a little bit of prevent defense. But also he's been almost campaigning for this for almost two years. I think he looks at the potential, combatants in this debate. This is my opinion. I think he looks at James Fishback as almost like a clown. Smart clown. He's like, this guy. I think he looks at Lieutenant Governor
Starting point is 01:56:01 Jay Collins as a capable leader who lacks name recognition. And all he would be doing is potentially elevating these guys. He's basically saying these guys aren't on my level. I'll wait for the general election. That's my opinion. And I would probably advise that if I was his advisor too. But from a moderator point of view, I think the more the better and prepares him for the general election.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Well, speaking of poor debate performances, I'll go back to the Obama-Biden thing as we're talking about that. I don't think Biden is going to have his own library. I think he's getting lost at the Obama Library now. He'll probably do the Zoolander approach and basically transform a local middle school library until like the school for kids that can't read good,
Starting point is 01:56:43 Obama Library, and that's probably what's going to happen there. But if I was putting together a coalition, I think Obama's a nice guy. guy. Do I think he's a good president? No, I think he's a nice guy. I like the, I think Michelle is no bueno. But the talent on the left, the artistry on the left, the singers, the dancers, performers, they're so much better than what's going on to the right. So much better. But let's relegate them to that. Let the leaders lead and let the performers perform. I think Obama pales in comparison to what Bill Clinton is. Bill Clinton, they say, is one of the most, like,
Starting point is 01:57:19 Magnanimous, just like you feel like the only person in the room was in your Clinton. You've met Clinton before. You've had experience with him. I mean, look, going back in this conversation with the debate, in 2023, I don't know when it was, when we had DeSantis on, I didn't like the way he ran against the president. I just didn't like it. I didn't like his answers. I didn't like the way they did their marketing campaign. and when I sat down with DeSantis and we had the conversation, my outcome was, dude, sit this one out, this is not your place, and then afterwards, I don't know what it was, a week or two weeks later, he was out after the sit down that we had.
Starting point is 01:57:59 Now, you know, I was offended that he didn't receive my gift. That was very offensive to me. I offered a gift, and he wasn't happy about it. Eric Gamos. Bring it to today, if DeSantis runs in 2027, 2028, he's a guy that I would love to see run because the timing's right and I think America needs to be reminded
Starting point is 01:58:20 of what a phenomenal job he did and I hope Byron Donald's realizes that the role dissent his place is very, very important going into his election that he's going to have as a governor because the worst thing you want to do is he goes in and he says I don't need the debate
Starting point is 01:58:37 then Republicans sit this one out even if you get DeSantis's endorsement and you get Trump's endorsement and you get a little too cocky. One of the best things that I saw here when I saw a tweet about Wembe, I'll never forget this tweet about Wembe. This was about a week ago.
Starting point is 01:58:54 And it was, people forget, AI only went once and he had a chance I won a go championship. How many times did Barclay go to the championship, NBA finals? I think just once with Phoenix. This is Barclay, one the greatest power forts of all time, okay?
Starting point is 01:59:09 How many times? You know how many lists of superstars? How many times that Reggie Miller go? Reggie Miller went, I think, once. Exactly. So Wemby is 22 years old. Now, he's, oh, he'll get back into it again. He probably will.
Starting point is 01:59:23 Probably. But there may be a no. So as a competitor, you don't ever leave anything to chance, especially something like this. If you don't go, do I worry if I'm a advisor to say, people are going to look at you as you ducked a debate. Do you really want to know that? Like if I'm the left, you know what I'm going to be saying?
Starting point is 01:59:46 I'm going to be saying he was so afraid of meeting his own Republicans because he didn't want to have a debate. And Byron's a capable guy. We've had him on. You just had him on your show a couple weeks ago. Very good speaker. Fearless. He'll go out there.
Starting point is 01:59:58 He'll do all this stuff. He was doing some stuff with TPUSA. But I would like to see him do it. I think when he does do it, I think it won't even be a, you know, None of the other candidates stand a chance with him when he does do it. I think he'll win. Of course, anybody that faces anybody, you're going to have some moments where the other
Starting point is 02:00:15 guy's going to get a couple of licks in and they're going to have their own highlights. But that's going to live for 48 hours. New cycle moves on. You're gone. You're going to get the election, general election, and nobody stands a chance when you're there. So now you have everybody saying this guy's got the brass to go face everybody. So I would like to see him do it, whether he will or not. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:00:33 Brett, in regard to the 250-year anniversary celebration that you guys are doing at Fox, Tell us about it. Yeah, we've got a lot of plans. Anchors all over the place. We're going to be in Mount Rushmore at the opening of the Teddy Roosevelt Museum in North Dakota. The opening of Teddy Roosevelt? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:49 Oh, wow. Isn't that crazy? It's taken that long for a specific, you know, Badlands Museum, really led by former Governor Bergam out there in North Dakota, now Secretary of Interior. Shout out. Anyway, it's going to be, there'll be tons of events.
Starting point is 02:01:06 and I think that this is really a moment. You know, it's a shame that some people look at the 250th as a Trump thing, you know, and maybe they have not bought in because they think it's an administration thing. And some of the performers pulling out, to your point, has created some chaos. But if you think about it, and this is what I write in the book, it's a shared moment, 250 years since the Declaration of Independence.
Starting point is 02:01:36 And shared moments are rare. You know, when you get to an Olympic event, an athlete, U.S. athlete, stands on the top, wins the gold medal, and the flag's going up, and the national anthem's playing, and you get a lump in your throat, and you start to tear up. And the guy next year gets a lump in his throat. You don't think about that person's politics or, you know, what you're thinking about politically. It's a shared moment. And I think that that is the message. of this the book and I think it's a possibility for the 250th I love it I love it amazing and folks if you're watching this again I'm asking you to go support and order to book the case
Starting point is 02:02:18 for America by the great Brett bear who I think is the fairest moderator the best moderator we have in our generation in my opinion I keep saying this to anybody I talk to and Brett it's been great having you all great conversation a lot of fun looking forward to the next one with that being said for those of you guys that are watching game tonight, the soccer. I think we're playing Australia today. I think it's one of the best clips. One of the best clips to see is how tourists that are
Starting point is 02:02:44 here are reacting to America. And I don't know if you've seen these clips. They're funny as hell. Can you play one of these clips? The Japanese guy, man. It is so flipping hilarious. French guys really happy about air conditioning. Oh, he loves air conditioning. Go for it. Go ahead. The internet can't get enough of European
Starting point is 02:03:00 tourists like Sean experiencing American culture during this year's World Cup. Look at us, Chuck. What is this? Cascault. It's even bigger than Walmart. I'm way too European for this. He's got a line dancing.
Starting point is 02:03:18 I'm going to Dallas for England game. Quick pit stop at Buckees. Bucke Bever even knows that it's coming home. That's so funny. What a burger? What's to take me. Much juice. Amazing!
Starting point is 02:03:38 Barbecue for the first time! There it goes, buddy! Yeah, popping bottles. And Cesar Saturday. So good. A steak and... That's... Mexican?
Starting point is 02:03:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Neither Canadian nor the English brain can comprehend this at this moment in time. I'm in Iho and I bought it a chicken muffle. I've never seen this before my life. That's good chicken. Barbecue. Barberkill.
Starting point is 02:04:08 First time in my life. Bove. Better than any moment in my life. And I am married and I'm going to leave my wife and kids for the barbecue. The pretzsche. I give my left croissant for a Texas brisket. This guy's probably in America. He's probably trolling people.
Starting point is 02:04:25 That guy's not real. Do you have the Asian guy that he's talking and he said, do you know which one I'm talking about that guy? He's like Japanese borax. The Japanese borax. The Japanese borax. U.S. Australia. Australia.
Starting point is 02:04:36 Okay, U.S. Australia. We know Rinaldo didn't score goals. A lot of people were like, wait a minute. Mbapes scored two, Holland score two, Messi scored three. He's the greatest all-time score in the World Cup tied. You have a prediction for the score?
Starting point is 02:04:48 U.S. Australia? Yeah, it's probably going to be a 3-1 score U.S. I love it. My prediction is U.S. 3-1. And by the way, hey, go to v.Tmerch.com, place your order for the American hats. These are sick hats as well as Iran.
Starting point is 02:05:02 I think we have two Iran hats that are left. Represent the shirt with a shirt with the right flag and go to the games, go to the watch parties, represent your country. With that being said, Gank, have a wonderful weekend.
Starting point is 02:05:14 Thanks for coming down. Thanks so much. Thanks to our friends at Fox, and we will do this again next week. God bless everybody. Bye bye, bye-bye.

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