PBD Podcast - Voting For Donald Trump, Biden's Faults & NYC's Downfall w/ Michael Rapaport | PBD Podcast | Ep. 364

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

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Now they run and homie, look what I become. I'm the, I'm the one. This is how they run, homie, look what I've become. I'm the one. Okay, so look, I mean, we know the social media world, Hollywood, sports, business, politics is filled with many amateur trolls, but there's some professional trolls. There are some that are comfortable trolling others

and getting under their skin. Our guest today is an expert in that. But before I'm sure he's been a great troll his entire life, knowing how to piss people off. He's had an incredible, interesting, unique career. Higher learning. I remember watching higher learning was in higher learning. He dated Phoebe guys, dated Phoebe on friends.

If I'm not mistaken, true romance. He was at Brad Pitt's wedding with Jennifer Aniston, seen the wall of caviar and there's a bunch of different things. He's got his own podcast called I am rapper port stereo podcast. But the most disturbing thing about all the facts that I learned about him, this, this one made me feel a little bit uncomfortable. We were actually a little bit hesitant about inviting him after I heard about this. He is obsessed, I mean, absolutely obsessed with the real housewives and that's concerning.

You know, when you're somebody that knows so much about it. Love. With that being said, wrap a port in the house. How you doing, man? How you feeling? Good to be here. Appreciate you having me. Big fan, big fan of the show. How you doing, man? How you feeling good to be here? Appreciate you having me big fan I'm a man of the show

And excited to be here. I love it. I love it. It's good. I know you were talking right off the bat You said, you know the unveiling right the Kobe Bryant unveiling you of the statue. Yeah, cuz today when we're recording to 824 so I'm sure that had something to do with it and and I had first really Saw you when you had done that interview that You know we still see clips from with the late great Kobe Bryant So that's kind of what my introduction to you and I'm a fan of the show So I decided to be here. I got to find the locker

And wrap up where you travel with the pit bull. Yes, your beautiful wife, AKA pit bull came in here and just, she laid the law down. Don't you mess with my husband, y'all. Well she didn't say y'all, but I threw that one in there, Michael. We can add the other one. My mother-in-law is a fan of the show and we watch it. Yeah, we watch the show. We watch the show. Yeah, I mean, she came. She straight up went for Vinny. Oh yeah.

Mother-in-law went for Vinny. You go talk to that man anyways. But you know, we all know one thing about Vinny. What's that? He's from Yonkers. He's from Yonkers. You're from Yonkers. With Yonkers.

And he got stabbed by, his mother stabbed him with a butternut. Eight years old. It might have been a wooden spoon that was cracked, but listen, I got a gun. So I'm from Yonkers. Before we get into it, so last time on Tuesday, we announced anybody that buys the Future Looks Bright hats

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Where do the hardest people come out of from New York? Like when you typically listen, it ain't where you're from. It's where you're at the quote, the, uh at the quote the the great rock Kim Eric being rocked yeah so I mean you know there's there's tough people from everywhere and there's soft people from everywhere but you know historically the Bronx in Brooklyn I would say historically probably the most you know a lot of fighters come from Brooklyn you know Mike Tyson of Riddick bow I mean there's the most, you know, a lot of fighters come from Brooklyn, you know, Mike Tyson, Riddick Boe, I mean, there's Zab Judah, you know, Jake Lamottis from the Bronx. So where are you from? Where'd you grow up? I'm from Manhattan, grew up in New York City. That's not the hardest, right? Definitely not the hardest, but you know,

they say Brooklyn keeps on taking it, Bronx keeps creating it, Queens keeps on faking it, and Manhattan keeps on making it. We're known for the money. So, you know, Pat rapper was that I'm gonna keep taking a great line Yeah, okay KRS one boogie down production say it again. So so say the four again Vinnie Brooklyn, you're from Yonkers. No, no, no, no, no, no. I love the. This Yonkers thing ain't going nowhere. By the way, DMX, that was Yonkers, no.

What pound is right next to the Bronx? It's Yonkers, right? So we're that far. Like we're so far away. By the way, you know who's from Yonkers? DMX, The Locks, Jada Kiss, Mary J Blatch. And Vinny. And Vinny.

And people aren't like, they don't know like, Yonkers is on the map. Like you said, it ain't where you're from, it's where you're at. Anyway, finish the line from KRS One, don't disrespect. Brooklyn keeps on making it. No, Brooklyn keeps on taking it. Bronx keeps creating it.

Queens keeps on faking it. Manhattan keeps on making it. I did it out of order. Anyway, it's fine. So Queens is faking then. This is in a hip hop line. I didn't say. They didn't let me in trouble with all of them.

Now Queens is gonna come after them. They know the line. It is in a hip hop line. I didn't say it. They didn't bring me in trouble with all of them. Not Queens is gonna come after him. They know the line. It's an iconic hip hop line anyway. Michael, who were you in high school? Who? Who were you? 14, 15 years old, I'm a classmate of yours. If we interviewed five year classmate

that spent the most time with you, who was Michael Rappaport? That's a very good question. I was shit talking. No, hoop dream, having hip hop, loving, very gregarious kid who was exploring You know all of New York and but my focus was was basketball and and and and hip-hop and Just you know, I was just out and about man. I but I would that's a that's a good question But I was that's who I was I was a very very disruptive. I got kicked out of school From the third grade to the 12th. I went from a different school literally from the third grade to the 12th grade and I went to

Public school in New York City. I went to a Rasmus Hall high school, which is in Brooklyn, New York and Got kicked out of there and there were Violent criminals in there and they asked me to leave after my 11th grade year just because they said you're told my father You're just such a pain in the ass You're just because they said you're told my father you're just such a pain in the ass Then there was no incident There was no fires being set which one is you which one is who's that picture the black guy? Yeah Yeah, so that was about 13 years old, but I mean, you know, I wanted to be a basketball player and I just was big

disruptive personality and You know was know, had a unique sort of a period of time between, you know, 19, between when I was 12 and 19, cause I was everywhere except for home. Michael, when did you realize you can monetize and capitalize on being this gregarious, larger than like that? To be honest, we didn, figure out the money. You know, you said the word troll, and I don't particularly like that term, and I certainly don't consider myself that,

because my social media presence and the things that sort of ruffle feathers, people excite, people love, people don't love, presence and the things that sort of ruffle feathers, people excite, people love, people don't love on social media are never premeditated, ever, ever, ever, ever. So when, you know, I feel like that term troll is the way you were using it.

I don't think it was disrespectful. I think it's like you're sort of doing a concerted effort to excite. And- Entice and excite. and I don't think it was disrespectful. I think it's like you're sort of doing a concerted effort to excite and- Entice and excite, yeah. And I don't, and I think if I did do that, I wouldn't be as good at it. And if I did do that, I probably could monetize.

Monetize from it. But like my social media stuff that is when viral, that people talk about good, bad, or indifferent, whether it's sports, whether it's hip hop, Like my social media stuff that is when viral, that people talk about good, bad, or indifferent, whether it's sports, whether it's hip hop, whether it's political, it's always off the cuff. It's never pre-planned and pre-meditated. Like it's literally, I just go. Which one got you in the most trouble?

What did you say that got the most eyeballs in reaction? Was it politics, sports, or hip hop? Man, there's probably one of each man. If I if I went through one of each, I could tell you that there's there's been a lot of sports over the years. It's been a lot of hip hop over the years and it's been a lot of politics over the years. Honestly, there's if I if I went over each one, it's across the board. But you know, the one, the introduction to my, I could say shit talking, because I don't want to. Yeah, yeah, you're fine. My introduction to shit talking outside of sports and music was after Charlottesville,

it was a Saturday morning after the you will not replace us, Jews will not replace us, and when I was living in Los Angeles, I would take that video. I would take my dog out for walks, and I was so taken aback that people, whatever year that was, would public, and I think it was 16.

Was that the year Trump, Trump was started in 16? Yeah, but the election was in 16 November, 16, but he was sworn in January, 2017. Yeah, it was like July or June of 2017. Yeah, summer of 2017, you're right. And I was so offended that people would publicly Say Jews will not replace us as if we gave a fuck about those tiki torch khaki pants wearing

Disenfranchised people as if the Jewish people are trying to replace you fucking losers and just to speak that out loud I was like and that video and just to speak that out loud, I was like, and that video went crazy viral. And it was, I think, a minute, and like, you know, my dog is in it, and I'm just walking, it's literally eight, nine in the morning. Rob, play for a second, I wanna see which one this is. Last night in Charlottesville, Virginia, a bunch of white nationalists carrying tiki torches

that they got from Home Depot wearing skinny jeans drinking coffee came out for a protest saying white lives matter white lives matter you know your life ain't shit if you're a college student on a Friday night during the summertime you ain't getting no ass and you decide to come out for a protest carrying tiki torches talking shit little coffee cup carrying white nationalists. You ain't shit. If you was really trying to get it popping,

you would've taken your little Ed Sheeran protest right over there at the Virginia Beach, or Newport News, and you would've got your Tiki Torches stuffed up your ass. Venge of the Nerd protesters. Eat some pizza, take a few bong rips. Don't you got a fucking toga party to go to? It's Friday night.

Try to get to second base with a girl you fucking loser Took my white lives matter white lives matter thrown up Nazi salutes Dorm room dumb fucks. I bet your dog is like why is dad tripping the fuck out? That was my my dog past my that was my dog's comfort comfort tone Oh, really so you're jumping out our walks like you'd be like Oh, he's doing a video but but that at that time just went crazy crazy crazy viral, but like I said I I Never contrived the stuff. It's just sort of happened I'm like, where does that because a lot like my father was was like a composer music my sister plays classical

I played the trumpet, but I'm also a wise ass funny because my father would make us entertainer front people. Where'd you get that, that brash who gives a shit attitude? Was it family? Was it just from the streets? Where did you pick it up? That's just how I came out, man. That's it?

That's just how I came out. I mean, you know, it's just how I came out and I've always sort of talked a lot of stuff. I've tried not to curse. And I've always, you know, sort of been good with my mouth. And I wasn't as good shooting the balls I was with my mouth as far as talking. It's kind of like a superpower, especially when

you're hanging out in the street, you know, like some people could fight, some people could play ball, some people, you know, were like, you know, doing criminal stuff. I was a good like snapping, we call snapping. That was my thing. And that particular thing, I, that's not me. I was about to say. I was like, who the hell is that guy?

That's my high school, Martin Luther King high school. Oh, yeah zoom in Yeah, that's my my my my last high school That's you that's hilarious me there. Yep. Yep. Yeah, I'm a little bit Rob. Let's see our guy You're lefty lefty lefty and you see like everybody's here and um, this is me that is that's you you say who I Who was I that's you that's who I want said who I, who was I? That's who I was. That's who I was. There's like one white person in the entire place at you.

Michael, you're what, 53, 52, how old are you? 53, 53. Yeah, why does this look like it's from 1920s? What's going on? It's all black and white. Black and white film. What? I love it.

This is the 80s dog. 1988, man. Were you any good? Were you a good basketball player? I was a good player, but I mean the levels change so quick when you get to like 14 15 16 The you know people are going through puberty that the the the gap gets quick For from you know young teenage sports like you go from at 14 It's a gap like that and so you know, but I had fun and I learned so much from the camaraderie of playing ball and the

You know, it wasn't so much the games. It was the going to the games on the trains. It was the coming back from the games. It was the practice and it was everything in between. And I just, I just loved it, but it kept me in line. And I was always, I had a goal. Even though I didn't reach that goal, I had a goal. So I got so much from, you know, wanting to be a professional. Any of these guys make it to the,

did anybody make it from your high school to the next level or no? Not from that high school, but I played with, I mean, Kenny Anderson, you know, and lefty is a lefty point guard. I mean, one of the best New York players and you know, I would go to basketball camps with Sean Camp and Billy Owens and you know, the golden state warriors. Yeah.

So yeah, the rain man, Sean Camp. Yeah. So the gap, you know, and that's when I saw that gap. It was, it was very... Who was the craziest guy you saw in the gym? Like an high school level. Was it Kemp? Was it, was it? Sean Kemp, when I was at the five star basketball camp,

was Sean Kemp that you saw with the Seattle Super Son. No, at what age? 18. Geez. Yeah. Literally. Check was amazing. And Kenny Anderson, we knew, everybody in New York knew.

And I played one-on-one with Kenny and I was good. 12 you could be better than people. I was bigger than Kenny. And Kenny Anderson at 11 years old was going to the NBA. Everybody in New York knew it. At 11 years old. The way he handled the ball, it's like some people are just gifted.

You know, other people work at it. Kenny Anderson was just like, you know, a prodigy. He was a basketball prodigy. 11 years old. The way he handled the ball, when I first saw him at 11, he already had a reputation at 11. You know, like, and this is when it's earned. There's no social media. So I saw a bunch at 11. You know, like, and this is when it's earned. There's no social media.

So I saw a bunch of guys, you know, I played with a bunch of great players in New York. The late, great Malik Sealy was another one. Chris Mills, you know, I was in the high school with him. The one year I went to school with Fairfax, Chris Mills and Sean Kemp. And you know, I was around, you know, great players and at the time you could play with them,

but you're not as good as them, but you could play with them. So it was a great time. It was a great players and at time you could play with them, but you're not as good as them, but you could play with them. So it was a great time. Didn't you have a thing with Brian Scalabrini at one point? What was that? What was all that? All fun. That's my guy.

Okay. That's your guy. The white mamba. The white mamba. The white mamba. Come on. The white mamba. That's your guy.

It's like the white mamba and Vinny from Yonkers. Thank you. I saw some of that people started challenging Scalabrini right so one-on-one Did you see all this Gallabrini could beat any one of your listeners yes one-on-one now and he'll tell you he probably Can't and he could the worst the person who's playing in the NBA Who's on the 12th man? Yes Could beat every single one of the people watching this show I mean, it's an NBA professional basketball player. So the level is just, you know.

Who's your favorite guy? Who's your favorite guy in the NBA? All time. I know, you know, I think you did something with Oramon Rowe years back. Well, who's your favorite, favorite all time? Man, it's hard to pick one, but the person who meant the most to me growing up

and like resonated with me as a kid the most is Dr. J. That was my, I had such love for him, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird, but Doc was like, I wasn't into cartoons, I wasn't into Marvel, I wasn't into Batman and Robin, I wasn't into Bruce Lee, Dr. J was that to me. And to a lot of people, he was that to me. And to a lot of people, like he was that to me. And throughout the years I've gotten to meet him

and I participated with him in the big three and I have, I've been around him so much. My heart still races when I just love him. Love him and he meant so much to me as a kid. He was a superhero. What year? When you're saying superhero, what year? When Doc resonated with me, 79, 80, 81.

So listen, you're a Manhattan guy, even though you kind of look a little Larry Bird-esque. I think I've seen you in a Celtics jersey before. What's up with your nicks, bro? We're getting better, man. I mean, you're not giving a shout out to you, you don't got Bernard King on your list. Bernard, I got you said one guy. Yeah, just saying Bernard you're a Manhattan guy. Listen, I'm gonna tell you right now

I don't want to go to down the rabbit hole of sports because I know this the show I watch the show I'm gonna say right now based on the trades. I'm gonna say this right now right into my camera The Knicks just picked up a bunch of guys bug Donovitch The New York Knicks February with February 8th. Yes. February 8th, 2024, 2024. I'm on the PBD podcast. Millions of people watch the New York Knicks

are winning the NBA championship. Get out of here. For what? This year? When? You're out of control. This year. Get it. Hey, what's wrong with that? What's what I'm saying? Okay. So because of who?

Because of a Linn Brunson. He's a beast the whole team. We have a team the New York mix here I'm not gonna say winning the Knicks are going to the championship I'm not gonna say winning the Knicks are going to the the championship barring a catastrophe Michael Rappaport The Knicks are gonna ask you the one question. I asked Vinny every time he takes a mix and outrageous statement. How much money you want to put on this Rappaport? That the Knicks are going to another winning a championship. No, no, he said they're going to the going.

Going to the going. He said, I'll bet you a clean 100. Let's make it a thousand. Let's be professional. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think the odds are on your side, though. What are the odds and who? Yeah, I thought it's a it a thousand. Let's be professional. No, no, no, no, no, no. I think the odds are on your side though. What are the odds and who do you add? I don't know. You just win if you ought to give 100 bucks. 100 bucks is a fair bet. I think that's fair. I think that's fair. That's the bet. There it is. Done.

I'm a heat guy, bro. I know what it's like to go to championship. You guys are going in. That's what they said last year. We made you the championship. I was at the game last night and I sat on the wood and I'm a heat fan Heat culture. I respected that was last year. It's 2024 The trade deadline just came in before I walked into the studio the nicks are going to the champion Bet I Am rapper. This is odds right now 20. It's not like it, they haven't even caught up with what happened five minutes ago. That's what I'm saying. That has, so it could go even that's winning. The Knicks are going to the championship. The Knicks are coming out of the East and winning the, and going to the champ. By the way, that's a, that's a pretty bold statement

to, to make. Dude, I have a John Starks jersey. So let me, let me ask you, what do you think about the whole conversations about LeBron to Nick's? Is that like a fairy tale? It's not going to happen. He ain't leaving LA you think the Lakers should trade them No, they're not trading him. He ain't going anywhere. He's Lord LeBron James. Do I think the Lakers? No, he's the best player on their team Yeah, I don't think he's going anyway. He's LeBron. You know, no, you I've seen you at the big three before you've had some beef before I've seen you were coaching a team before. Yes. Who have you had beef with with anything I want to say KD and you had some beef yeah listen I don't even want to call yourself a troll you talk shit bro I talked shit but you do talk shit and a troll is two different things okay so you would label yourself a

shit talker though the best in the world okay we established one of the 100% what you call it yapping what you call it I call it Is the end of it okay talking is the general What happened with cement KD what happened some other guys all the other stuff you saw in the big three That's just performance. Yeah, okay. No, no. Yeah, okay. No, no, it's all just perform. What was real? What was the real beef? None of the stuff on the big three was real none. What was real? I mean you got asked me specifically in my life KD KD that was a whole thing that That got out of hand that was a DM thing. I mean you could you tell it better than me

I actually did a lot of this Michael somebody's on your year. No a lot of this was a few years ago I remember some shit was trending. Yeah, it was trying to re hatching some stuff Yeah, but you know when you brought up the Jews when I replaced this type of thing I remember that from seven years ago, but you know times but we got you now wrap up or what happened? the KD thing was Was what it was got into an ugly ugly social media feud. Yeah, and you pulled tree tree What does it say tree Train train of thoughts train with that thought. Rob, see what it is. Oh, all right. What was it? The worst fights

are the ones that there was no one to root for. That's what we had yesterday with the Nazi Twitter scuffle between broke out between net star. Kevin Durant nasty. No, the participants here surprising Durant loves to fight with people on various social media platforms. The rap report is often looking for attention. Not you, Mike, with personalities. This ball, it's all involved. There was no warning before the fight. The much, the much, the much regarded and respected trainer report with an A at the end. Yes. Well, Mike, you, you posted the conversation, the DMs. What was he saying in the, you were calling him a snake. I remember that he'd, he was talking about spit on me and all this shit. And, and, uh, you know, talking to district, he mentioned my wife

and I was like, no, this is not happening. Got it. So that was, that was what that was three years ago. I think it was four. What was the resolution with that? You guys squash any beef? You see him at all lately? I haven't seen him. I haven't seen no what happens if you saw KD By the way, are you separate to him straight up? I mean the end of all the basketball players and professional athletes Physically, he's the one that I would probably be least Because you probably way more than At a lean mean 210 pounds. All right. Oh the Durant. Yeah, so I was the easy money

I was at a club. I was the easy money. I was at a club. I was at a club, Mike. And I saw this like he's obviously huge. But his he was words. Yeah. He has little baby ankles. But I'm not a tough guy at all.

I don't I don't claim to be. I don't want I'm 53. I'm gonna be 54 in March. Yeah. And you know, style your world. No, don't say that, Mike. Cause the people are gonna say,

Oh, that his bark is louder than his bite. My bark is louder than my bite. All right, there. What the fuck do you think this is, man? It's shit. So I talk shit, and I don't mind. I'm not a boxer. I'm not a UFC fighter.

I'm not showing Strickland to one of these guys. By the way, now that guy, he is not a guy you want to get into street fighting. He's crazy. He's had a crazy childhood. Yeah. And that shit comes out in his fists. The best thing is when he told his opponent,

he says, look, you can say whatever you want. If you talk about my dad one more time in Canada, I will kill you, I will go to jail, and I'll be okay with it. Period, period. And then the guy's like, you know what, let's just fight. He's like, that's like a key in P field thing. You showed the other, key in P field thing.

Yeah, that's funny, that's a funny one. Michael, let's talk about politics. Okay, so 2017, 2017, you're making that video, right? Politically, how much have you changed in the last seven years? I think I've learned a lot more. So I don't think I've changed. I think I've learned more about, I'm not, I think, I know I have, you know, honestly,

I didn't care, speak or pay much attention to politics up until the Republican convention, the Republican debates and then the debate with Hillary and Trump. To be totally honest with you. So since that time, I've learned a lot. And I think a clear point of view on the game, I have a clear point of view on politicians, I have a clear point of view on where I stand.

As you get older, your money becomes more important you know, your money becomes more important to you, your tax become more important to you. And I think for me, learning and going through an understanding first initially, politics through social media and then politics in real life and educating myself, I have, my point of view on things have changed. I'll just jump right to it

because I know you wanna get to it. My point of view on Trump, and I wanna ask you this, because I know you're sort of, you consider yourself right now a Trump guy? I'm a center right guy. But right now. Oh, there's no question about it.

So the thing is for me, you handle yourself in such a classy way and people are like, you know, Pat, you should run for president. Pat, you'd be a great president. You know, you've accomplished and you're so successful. And you know, the way everybody, you know, in your office, you know, sort of presents himself and it's a classy place and it's, you know, from the head down, I would imagine the thing about Trump that's the hardest amongst other things, the hardest for me and a lot of people to get past along with

the list, but the top the is the way he conducts himself as a president. And some people say, well, my crap, you talk shit. I'm not the president of the United States. Totally. And Well, Mike, you talk shit. I'm not the president of the United States. Totally. And the insulting people, I don't know a thing about McCain. I don't know anything about his politics, but I know he served this country, and he went through what he went through.

For somebody like Trump, who is a draft dodger, somebody like Trump to insult him and give him a nickname and say he prefers his war heroes not to be captured, to me is the antithesis, and that's a big word, I'm using it just because I'm here with you Pat, that's a big word for me, that's the antithesis of anything presidential. And I'm a shit talker

And all that stuff but the nicknames in the disrespect for the fact that you're the president Time and time and time and time and time after again To me is the thing that's hardest for me to get by because it's representative of Everything in this country. He's the representative of us in the country. I know also his bark is bigger than his bite, but being the president, that's an extremely loud bark. His bark is bigger than his bite. I think he says a lot more than he does.

I think his policies weren't, a lot of his policies that he did while he was in office, I like. I think he did do things that were good for the country, but the spillage, the messiness, the antagonistic behavior, the antagonistic behavior towards anybody, anybody, whether they worked with him or not, but the people that worked with him, once he feels betrayed, once he feels insulted, to just attack, attack, attack, insult

in the most disrespectful, embarrassing way, is just to me, is not acceptable as a president to me. And so, so then that means you're a Biden guy. That doesn't know that doesn't mean anything. So would you still vote for him? Would you still vote for Trump? No, well, I didn't vote for Trump. You mean what I still vote for by 2024? Would you vote for Trump this year? Would you consider it? Yeah. Well, I said the other day that voting for Donald Trump is on the table. I saw that.

Yeah. And by the way, 50 cents at that with the whole 53 million dollar credit card, New York, mayor Adams, what they're doing, the, all the immigrants, but let me, let me kind of on the table, big Mike, everybody's saying everybody's changing. Let me kill you. You're saying killer Mike or a little Mike, Mike. So let me kind of give you my, I want to hear yourself. Yeah.

Perfect. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about specifically with that. So for me, I said voting for pig dick Donald Trump. I know you did. I know you did. That's and I love that when they put it up there, they, they refer to him in the nickname I gave it. Gig it up. What it would tell me about the,

is this after watching a Jimmy, Jimmy, Camel Deal or is that just your nickname? I created that nickname. That's your nickname. I patented it. Okay. And maybe you could help me check the patent. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Pig dick Donald Trump, dick stain Donald Trump,

I have the patent on that. So if you use it, unfortunately, I will have to sue you. I understand, I respect that. What was the inspiration for the pig dick? You know, sometimes stroke of genius. Yeah, a stroke, nice one. A stroke of genius just comes out. What do you, stroke, calm it down.

It's just, it's all over. A lot of double entendres going on. There's nothing specific to it. You're just kind of, it's a name you gave with no meaning behind it. Do you think like, like, do you say like, Dr. J, Air Jordan.

Yeah. The Mamba. Yeah. Pig Dick Donald Trump. It just fits. Patrick, it fits. Here's what's funny about it. You know it fits.

Even though. And I see it in your face because I know you have a good sense of humor. You can't even make out of time. Oh, listen, it fits. Here's what's funny about it. You know it fits. Even though. And I see it in your face because I know you have a good sense of humor. You can't even make out kinds of things. Oh listen, I love. You know it fits. Are you kidding me? I'm all about sense of humor.

I love being entertained and I love the funny stories. But it's funny, you're saying that, but you're saying you're still open to the idea. So let me give you my. Now I am. I know, let me give you my rebuttal on those things. Please do. So for me, haven't been, I'm 45 years old, okay?

Haven't been in business for, you know, 20 some years and working with different personalities. What I valued when I was first recruiting in 24, 25, is very different when I was 30, after I wasted my time with a lot of people, then what I valued at 35, 40, and then today, right? Today is a complete different story. Then, here's the other part that I learned.

I learned recruiting a salesperson. Yesterday, one of the client CEOs I'm consulting for asked me a question on what kind of salespeople should I recruit. I said, look, it depends on what product you're selling, meaning if you're selling a $100 product, you can't bring a guy that's suited up because you can intimidate the customer that's buying a hundred dollar product. It's not a big product. But if you're selling a product that's a million dollar

product, it's a different language versus if you're selling a 20 million dollar house in Miami or Coral Gables or Palm Beach, it's a different salesperson. So the same salesperson can fail selling this product, but succeed selling this product. Ideally in a perfect world, you would say, I want somebody who is this, I want somebody who is eloquent, I want somebody who talks like this, and all these things. Many times, you would get a new guy that comes in

with a phenomenal resume, looks good, everything looks good, then put him in the ring, have him get to work, guess what, nothing gets done, right? Back in the days, there was a work guess what nothing gets done right back in the days there was a book I read called the Lincoln on leadership by Donald T. Phillips Rob if you want to pull it up I think a lot 13 in this book he talks about just type in search until you find your grant okay search until you find your grant I don't think I've told the story on the pod search until you find your grant in this book right there the last chapter

I think it's chapter 13. He says search until you find your grant. Which one is it wrap 11 or 13? It's one of the go up one go up one keep searching keep searching until you find your grant Okay, so he tells the story the war is going on North and south all these things are going on he hires this guy who's the most trained Person in a military he promotes him to go and win the war his name is McClellan Okay, he brings them in and he says this is our guy You know what McClellan does all day long with his soldiers keeps training him training him training him every day Report to Lincoln report to Lincoln report to Lincoln. He brings

report to Lincoln, report to Lincoln, report to Lincoln. He brings, after 10 layers of generals he changed, nobody had the balls to go to war except for one guy. He finally finds this guy named Ulysses S. Grant. He comes in and he says, hey, we gotta go win the war. He says, say no more. This guy's a drunk, he's an alcoholic, he's a mess, he drinks late at night at bars, an absolute crazy man. He can never get a hold of him. Lincoln was always pissed off because Grant would never call him

But guess one that have happened he won the war Do you really give a shit if the guy that won the war is an alcoholic? No, you don't so that's the argument And they're not somebody could say in today's world, you know who you let's us as ground would have been Oh my god. Look at this irresponsible. This No, no, you won the war, you're safe. Be quiet, go home and send him a thank you letter instead of all this trashing that you're doing with him. And FYI, he becomes a two-term president afterwards after Trump.

So let's go through some of your lists. Draft Dodger, at this point, that was a big point in the 80s to say that, no one gives a shit today. Everybody running today is a draft dodger, okay? So that quality on talking shit to the other side, it's irrelevant today. It's a good one for 80s, not for 2024. But you served, right?

I served, McCain served. I'm a guy that I want the guy servant, but it's a different era today. But I'm just saying in terms of, you as somebody who served, just specifically that, I know that had to be like, you're like, what is that? For sure. It's, it's...

By the way, for sure with the fact that not even serving is a bigger issue for me. Not the draft dodging stuff. The draft dodging stuff, you got a rich dad. What are you gonna do for your kid? Maybe it's gonna be a different situation. You're not gonna know it if your dad's got money and maybe you're gonna be like,

what am I doing going over here and the dad gets you to get out? Those are some of the benefits that comes with the last name. I get it. Your son or your kids are gonna have a different way to use the last name than you did, right? Because you built the last name, right? So Trump didn't build the last name, Fred built the last name. There was a lot of benefits to the last name, but and then obviously Trump takes it to the next level. And then the McCain thing. McCain, let's go to the McCain. So McCain, I don't like that comment. I McCain. So McCain, I don't like that comment.

I just say straight up, I don't like that comment. Why even say that? You don't have to say that. Why would you say that? He served, put his life on the line, prison or war, he went with it, there's credibility behind it, or he marketed it or whatever.

It's not something that I sit there and say, yeah, I'm totally with him, I'm not that guy. I actually wasn't for that. And I openly talked about, you don't have to say that. So Ulyss listen to New York. For the longest time in U.S. they used to talk about the fact that America can't handle a New York president because you're New York.

Look how loud you are. He's New York. You know what feedback Tom gave to him two days ago? We don't always have to be loud. The thumbs up from New York. He made a note today, Mike. He's like, be calm. You're talking about, what do you mean?

Tom is a very different life. But guess what New York is? Loud, tough, competitive, calling out. So America got a New York president because that's who they wanted. And then what's the last one that you said, bigger than his bike? Here's what I will tell you.

What did I say what? His bike. His bike is bigger than his bike. His bike is bigger than his bike. So the thing with Trump too, when I was with Bill Maher, and I'm asking this question, and this whole idea, oh my God, this guy's gonna get elected. Let me tell you what he's gonna be doing.

If he gets elected, show me World War III, do you want that man to have access to the nuclear button and all this other stuff? Bro. You tell me, you're talking just with Bill Maher. Yeah, I was with Bill Maher last week, and we're having this conversation. And I said in 2016, all the left ever said

is the fact that this guy is gonna start a nuclear war. That's what he's gonna do. Guess what happened? He goes, there is no war. ISIS disappears. The last time you said ISIS was under Obama. We haven't said ISIS for a while. So economy's doing great, everything's great.

Then we have COVID two and a half years later Then they blame it all on him. He creates operation warp speed Kamala Harris and those guys said they would never take the vaccine while Trump was coming out with it But guess what those pharmaceutical companies did? You know when the vaccine comes out two days after the election So if we would have come out before Trump probably would have had a chance of winning But it comes out two days after why you don't think somebody behind closed doors said come out two days after the election hundred percent hundred percent data So the gamesmanship of how much they hated this guy because he's a shit talker. He talks so much shit It's constant, but that's him. That's his profile. You are not gonna change him. You're 53

You said you're gonna be 54 in March, right? So March 20, you're gonna be 54, okay. So how much do you think somebody can change you today at this phase of your life with your personality? Shifts, okay. You could bend a little bit. Subtle, bro, and that's not gonna be that dramatic, right? It's gonna be subtle. If somebody was gonna do anything to us,

maybe at 11, maybe 15, maybe 18, no one's gonna change Trump so all of those things of people that used to ask and said if only he could be like this let me just simplify it for you he's not going to absolutely not period but if you like no war if you like a great economy if you like unemployment that was low for African Americans they're making more money than ever before. If you want data and all that stuff was good, then great. Go this side. If you want a messy world that we have right now, Russia, Ukraine, where we're given another six, they're calling it a border bill out

of a hundred and $18 billion, $60 billion to Ukraine. Yeah, don't call it a border bill. He would have actually addressed those things. That's simple it is for me. But by the way, never spoken to him. I've never met him. I've never broke bread. I don't have a... I've seen him speak,

but we've never had interaction for there to be a loyalty. There is no relationship loyalty. It's policy loyalty. One thing that I really disdain in the mainstream media or even even media in general, even with you guys or when people are talking politics is if the other side or a president you don't like does something good, it's never acknowledged. So I'm gonna ask you this because you could probably answer this better than me what has the Biden administration done that you

do like First of all the economy is doing good. It's okay. Mm-hmm. Who is it good for though? It's good for the rich guy the people that are making money. They're doing that's you. Yeah, I mean, I'm okay I'm not again like I said to Bill Maher That's you. Yeah, I mean, I'm okay. I'm not again, like I said to Bill Maher Guys like me are gonna be good no matter who's the president by the way the more they print money I'm always gonna make more money Because money always rolls up to the wealthy because the poor and middle income don't know how to keep it They know how to spend it the more they spend it

Who do they spend it on on? capitalist that own equity and the equity people make money if I would say you know the fact that the Expectation of a massive recession to be taking place. Well, that didn't happen because that could have been in shambles, right? unemployment state, okay, I think Powell The way he managed the interest rates while the way we were going about the economy was okay the interest rates are, they're not good right now. It should stay low. And by the way, I said this last week.

They suck now, because I just bought a house and a car in the last, and if the interest rates are like... Where did you buy your house? I don't want to say. You're not gonna like this. But not in this state, not in Texas. So I didn't get the, you know... Okay.

For New York or California, something like that. I will say this on the interest rates. Even when Trump gets elected, my concern is he fires Powell and he brings somebody to lower the rates. If you lower the rates immediately, we're going back to fake success again. And we need to filter out a little bit of the fake success. There's way too many people that made fake money that need to just quit. So here's kind of what happens.

Guy goes and starts a business. He should have never started a business. He's a better guy working for a business owner because he doesn't have good habits. Because of his bad habits, he hurts the employees. He should get out of business and go work for the other guy that is a good operator. During fake success time these people look like great operators, but during economy like this they get exposed and then they go

and say, hey man, can I work with you? No problem, come on down. Because we need more solid operators, not fake success operators. We had a lot of those fake success operators during that 128 month economic expansion of pretty much zero So now I'm not I'm not a prediction. Go ahead brace for impact You're gonna vote for Trump and I'll tell you why Because you're I don't know if I could do I'll tell you why like to hang on and by the way You're talking to somebody that was probably closer to your camp in 2016

Oh, he was in 25 just a hated true like I never said hate I didn't like Trump but also also I've never said the word hate you can Roll the tape, okay I didn't like a lot of things he did a lot of things you highlighted for me There was the the one that like I was like I can't do this was when he Pretended like he didn't know who David Duke was Everyone knows David Duke leader the KKK is out there in the Louisiana. I okay. Come on. he didn't know who David Duke was. Everyone knows David Duke leader the KKK is out there in Louisiana. I okay, come on. You don't know this guy is

but you're also a reasonable person and you're also a dude like you're a dude. You like to play ball. You like hip hop. You like to talk shit. You're not a woke LGBT unicorn type beta. You're not you. That's not you. you no so you've seen what the left has produced over the last four years again I'm telling you somebody that's been in that camp I'm a JFK Democrat why am I a JFK Democrat because my dad was a JFK Democrat so that basically led to me by all JFK is the man he's a Democrat that led to me liking Clinton I like Clinton I cool you know he's out there kissing babies you know I'm getting blowjo. I like that guy. I make charming guy. Charming.

We met him recently, start of a guy. His wife, yeah, that's a whole nother conversation. But if you were looking at politics and you said you weren't paying attention to it, my senior year, I worked at the, in Tallahassee in Florida State where I went to school. I worked at the Capitol building. This was during the 2000 election Gore versus Bush

I was a Clinton guy was rooting for Gore what happened. I used to see Jeff Bush George W I used to see I was around this oh shit We saw what happened during the Bush administration bookends of it 9-11 and then the the great financial meltdown There was no bait way in a million years that old John McCain was gonna win the election over cool Barack Obama wasn't happening Yep, so if you if you if you believe in the Obama doctrine, I know I'll be nice to each other whatever There's no way you were voting for for Trump. It just wasn't in the cards. It wasn't happening It was abrasive. He was racist the media yada yada yada

And he was a joke. I like it's New Yorkers like it was like he's a ball-busting troll Exactly, he's a he's a shitball. I think you's a, he's a shitbump. But here's why I think you're going to vote for him this time. Because you've seen what happened under his first term. You didn't like it. He's the, you know, he's the pig dick and he's got the mean tweets and he's orange. But life was good. There was no wars. The economy was going good.

But damn, he's, he's annoying to look at. But you also can acknowledge that the media had a major role in that. Major role in that. When you take a step back. Yes. You also acknowledge that because I've role in that. That when you take a step back. Yes. You also acknowledge that. Because I've also acknowledged that, you know, that one thing about the Charlottesville

that, that, that I ramped it about. Yes. And I was wrong. But the both sides thing. Yeah. And I respect so irresponsible. And I respect the shit out of it. Wait, let me, let me hear him out.

Hang on. Go a little bit more. What do you mean by that? You were wrong on that. No, because he said the both side, you know, there's good people on both sides. And when you see the full quote, that wasn't what he said.

And, you know, I ramped it on him hard for that. Hard, there's some video about it, whatever. I mean, I ramped it hard because I was like, what are you talking about, man? Because you got played. And here's what the, this is why I think you're going to vote for Trump. It's because you, much like me, much like many of people, independent thinkers, not the sheep, realize we kind of got played a little bit.

Yes, Trump ain't exactly the smoothest character. He's not Jesus Christ. But he actually, his policies and who he has around him are way better than what's going on there. And here's my final point. You see what's going on with the border. You see what's going on with the border? You see what's going on with the wokeness? You see what's going on with culture wars and you see what's going on with actual wars?

Yeah, specifically you see who the the Democrats have exposed their hand, especially the progressive left You see what's going on between Israel and Gaza? You have three star of David highs on your chest right now and someone who is a proud New Yorker You're in the whole life. You see what the Democratic Party has turned into this DEI ESG woke manifestation of ridiculousness Intersectionality decolonialization You're looking at that and you say you know what as much as I can't stand big dick Donald Trump

You said it at least he's fucking normal At least he doesn't want to turn my boy into a girl. Well, he's normal. Yes. Yes, he's just poly. He doesn't want to turn My boy into a girl. Yeah, at least he's defending Israel not the fucking terrorists and at the end of the day I'm a reasonable person. Yeah, so like you said initially I think I'm gonna consider this Oh, it's I'm considering yes, but to pull that why don't we don't pull levers anymore? Yeah, actually pull that lever the pulling the lever for Biden and then I'm gonna tell you right now I won't vote. I'm not voting for Biden. No, I'm not voting for Kamala I'm not you know, but then you can't talk shit and you need to be able to talk

Wait a minute wait a minute so you're saying so for you I won't vote for them So no matter what that decision is. That ain't happening. No, I'm not, that's not happening. What? Kamala, I'm not voting for Biden. Well, but Mikey, what about anybody else? What about Mike, what about anybody from the left? What he's saying is, what he's saying is.

There's nobody. I'm saying like, what if New Summer, one of these cats pop up? Gavin, I just left California. I'm not voting for Gavin with a good hair. I love that. I love that. Gavin with a good hair, just like Becky. Fuck outta here. So Mike, here's my thing though. I'm not going for Gavin with a good hair. I love that. I love that. I'm with a good hair just like back out here.

So my, so my, here's my thing though. So I'm not a sucker. Yeah. You see how much they love them. They love it. They like his hair, but go deeper. Why do you say you're not a sucker?

What does that mean? Cause I lived, I just moved out of Los Angeles. Okay. I'm, it's not happening man. Explain that for the, those are the people that have never lived in LA. Why the hell you've been there for 20 plus years. Why the hell did you move out? Well, I moved out because I wanted to go to New York. I didn't move out for any reason.

I wanted to move back to New York full time. That's why I left. But the just on top, the, the, the, the homelessness in New York and sorry in Los Angeles and in California, San Diego, San Francisco. I could speak on those those places Sacramento is so but particularly in Los Angeles in Cal in in the Los Angeles area is is is is unacceptable. It's it's scary. It's um I don't know the the the how to fix it. It's, I don't know how to fix it. It's unacceptable. It's not safe. It's not sanitary. I know California and Los Angeles is a driving city, but I do like to walk.

When you walk, you shouldn't feel just uncomfortable by hordes and hordes and hordes of homeless people. It's not good for them. It ain't good for me. It ain't good for, it's not good across the board. And the taxes suck, but the homelessness and how it went down so bad so quickly. And the crime, all that.

Let's not forget about the crime. Yeah. Let's not forget about the crime. Yeah, so Mike, you said, cause I saw the video too, Pat played it the other day about you said, still voting for him It's still in the table We saw Adam mentioned what was the break? What was that moment Mike?

Was it the way that the administration treated the Palestine Gaza the terror? Yeah, the house is just because Mike real talk let's be honest if Trump was first of all None of that shit was happening at all when Trump was in everybody just know you know This is my fucking she was shaking people's arms and was ripping him off the socket. I think two things, A, it wouldn't have happened if it was under him. And number two, Mike, let's be real. If, well, nobody did it in those four years.

Yeah. Here's my thing though. If it did happen under Trump and there was hostages, Jewish, you don't think that guy would have gone in the next day, special forces that just shot and killed every, Trump would not play this shit. Was it, was it was it this thing Mike that made you go Israel Israel pushed me over the top what was it Mike like please please get it the the the the the good cop bad cop shit between Kamala and Joe Biden Joe at first you know what he said it you know I it it it was good at first what he said, but I don't remember exactly what he said, but

it was good. And it resonated with Israelis, but the good cop, bad cop between him and Kamala regarding this was not cool and and it's offensive you know that they are doing that uh speaking that way uh when such such a horrible unacceptable situation took place in Israel and and and that's when that's when I first said I don't know what the date was I believe it was sometime in October when I first said that and and and that's and since then I was like I'm just I can't like, I can't do it, I can't do it, I cannot vote for them. I, you know, the border stuff, it shouldn't be harder for me to fly back into the United States from Toronto

to three hours and I'm famous. I played a D.A. agent on a show called Prison Break. D.A. agent, border agents, they know me. It shouldn't take me, big star that I am, PBD, to get from Toronto flying to New York. It shouldn't take me three hours to fly back on that trip and take you five minutes across the border. It shouldn't be harder for me to get back into my country

from Toronto than it is to cross the border. And it is and it ain't cool. And then you know the thing that pushed me over the top this week. Listen, I live in New York. You know, I want to be clear. That's a crazy point. That's amazing. That's a crazy point. That's a crazy point. That's a crazy point. That was a clip of that and put that on the internet. Boom. I am rapper part. But Pat, you know, I'm gonna just say this. You know, the media also does this. It portrays New York as this. Fucking, there's not as much homeless that I see.

You know, I'm not Mr. Patrol. I'm not in the five borough scouring. There's not as much homeless, specifically in Manhattan. You know, I don't know the crime statistics. You know, it's still New York. It's still the greatest city on the planet, in my opinion. It's still everything.

You know, that being said, when I saw the cops in Times Square, one of the epicenters of New York, one of the epicenters of all things American in the world, you think of the United States, that's one of the epicenters of New York, one of the epicenters of all things American in the world. You think of the United States, that's one of the places. They dropped the ball, Dick Clark, the late great Dick Clark, you dropped the ball in Times Square. When NYPD blew, when NYPD is finest to get jumped by migrants. Illegal migrants.

Illegal migrants in my city. I'm not the owner, but I'm born and raised in Manhattan. When NYPD can get jumped by illegal migrants in New York City and then walk out with no bail, raising their middle fingers like Chupak did when he came out of the court. Unbelievable. Fuck you, fuck that, fuck this.

In New York City, and I know that's a city thing that I know has nothing to do with the president, but that is, that's when I go, is New York still the greatest city in the world if you can do that? Because that is a slap in the face to everything that is great, special about New York, and that is a slap in the face that is everything

that's great, special about the United States of America. And that's when I said the other day, this is just, I can't. And homies wearing a freaking Kobe jersey. A 24-leg helmet shirt. And that's when I'm like, this is where I know the best. I know New York City more better than anything, any other place that I've spent a lot of time in California.

That is my city. That's just the most blatant, disrespectful shit that you could do. That you can do this in New York City. You could beat, let me tell you something. To think that you could put your hands on a cop in any city, let alone in a city that you ain't from, in this country that you ain't from,

when I haven't traveled the world a lot, but when I'm in Israel, Argentina, the places that I've been to, I find out the rules and regulations, and I'm a disruptive person. If you can't spit, you don't spit. When you're in Thailand, you can't say certain things, it'll get in trouble.

Let alone put your hands on a cop, the audacity to put, to jump a fucking New York City cop and walk out with no bail. That's just embarrassing. And my, these are the same, and we talked about this. Clip that too. Yeah, these are the same.

Imagine traveling to a different country and beating up a cop anywhere else. No, we're ready for this. I mean, Brittany Griner did a year and a half Bring some weed to Russia it wasn't even it wasn't it was an evape thing But my you could do this and you walk out with no bail Double birdie besides it's not right. Hold on getting stomp down stomp down my this one passed me off All the New Yorkers didn't do shit number two number three This is the same NYPD that were heroes that were running into the world trade.

I did this, Mike, last week, running into the world trade, saving people, and nobody's helping these dudes. And then you know what that means, the system. They went into court and they're like, bye, get out. And then they go back in the street. That really hurt my heart. As I'm born in New York hospital,

that hurt my fucking heart. So here's a question for you. Sorry to curse. No, it's all good. So do you speak to- I know you keep it clean over here, Peter. I try to but every once in a while Vinny and Adam they sponsored the So so we're going back to it. So do you speak the not I'm not looking for names Are there other people

Who would have never thought about voting for Trump celebrities who are either in sports or business or whatever Hollywood. Do they call and say, Michael, what the hell is going on in New York? Pat, I can't speak on other celebrities. No, I'm not saying names, but are those, I can't even say other names. I can't even say other names. But I could say this. There's a lot of people in the Jewish community that I've spoken to a lot that are like, I never, ever, ever thought, you know, some celebrities,

yeah, some celebrities, yeah, some celebrities that I never thought I'd be at that point also, ever. And they're like, they were hard-bodied like me, like F Trump, you know, and all that stuff. Like, never Trumpers, that's what you call them. A lot of people, I would say in my world and I could say you know two celebrities that pop in my mind that said I never would have thought I would have even considered and here I am yeah that's exactly what's

how that's the reason that I said I think you're gonna vote for Trump and it's not even necessarily you could be any extension of you any reasonable person especially Jewish is gonna look back and be like, the Jews are not voting first. The Congressional testimony with the University of Presidents could have not condemned genocide. Wait, Harvard? Harvard. And all the club and gay going,

there was literally protesting, supporting Hamas, and I think that exposed, like the Jewish community was like, what the hell is going on? Subst group any group hundred percent other than Jews We want to genocide all Mexicans all guys forget it all blacks all Asians They would have been Condemnation to the highest degree, but Jews somehow it's acceptable. You know why is it acceptable? You know why because we are the last acceptable group to publicly hate. You can't do it against LGBTQ.

You get canceled. Bye. A black community, Asian community, disabled community. You can't say the R word. You little person, you can't say the M word. There's a lot of things that if you say them, if I said it right now, yo, you're done. But you can openly hate Jews. We are the last acceptable group, community, religion,

or race where it's not only acceptable, it's sort of consequences. No, you're emboldened to do it right now, particularly right now. That being said, I will say anti-Semitism, anti-Jewishness has been around forever. It's going to continue to go around. extremely disheartening and concerning and infuriating what's the not you know what's happened in to the real people, the victims, is one thing. But the Claudine Gaze, the MIT woman who somehow still has a job, the Harvard woman, the people thinking that they could say, get off my campus, Zionist, who can tell my friend in a cafe in New Orleans, I'm not going to serve you because you're Zionist. All the shit that we've seen whether Zionist

anti-Jewish all that stuff that is is a surprise and it's it's fucked up. Rob, what's this year? Microb, rail, and Jewel to leap Omar AOC you're in government. So so this is a which story is this Rob? This is our this is our regarding. Yeah, the squad. Yeah, the squad and their support for Palestine. In our government, literally. And this is a further more proof of why I don't think you can vote for the Democrat Party at this point. I'm not doing it. I'm telling you I'm not

doing it. I ain't doing it. I'm not with them. I've been off of them. I've got a question for you guys. I got a question specifically for the two of you you and Michael I know everybody's like rapper ports been redpilled And I do I take two red pills in the morning two red pills in the night. It's working The red pills, you know, they have been redpilled. So let me ask you, you know how in 1960 the whole Berry Goldwater where it used to be only, you know, 64% of African Americans would vote Democrat. By 1964, that 64% goes to 92% of blacks vote for Democrat because Democrats were brilliant in the way to pin Republicans as racist against blacks. And it lasted like that for decades till today, 60 years. It's lasted like that till today.

Do you think this is going to be the October 7th events going to be the top of an event where, where, right there exactly 1964 92% voted for Democrat. Look what it's been. It's been anywhere between 84 to 92% voting for them. They've owned, the Democrats have owned the black vote for decades. They've owned it for decades, right? Question for you. Do you think the October 7th event

and the way they've handled it, will it be in a way where there may be a massive exodus from Jews leaving the Democratic Party or no, you think it's still gonna be the same? I do, I think that- You think massive? like a 10 plus percentage. I think way more than all read because I'll tell you why. I've had plenty of conversations with guys like Michael Rapport, Jewish guys, reasonable dudes, make their money, do their thing, good people,

good family guys. And I say, what's up, you voting? And I know these guys, good friends. You're Jewish. Yeah. And I, I said, could you vote? And I know these guys. Good friends. You're Jewish. Yeah. And I Said could you vote you're gonna vote for Biden? You're gonna vote for Trump now. What are they gonna do? How many times I've had this conversation. They're like, yeah, I don't think I can do this thing. I didn't Here's the biggest thing We knew on the far right we knew the the Jews will not replace us Tiki tortured cat Kakis wearing The the Jews will not replace us Tiki tortured cat Kak is wearing pig dick loving check drop those guys We knew about those guys and the Jews are just like yeah anything with the KKK with the neo Nazis We ain't with that we had no clue

What was permeating on the left and it's the difference between the left and the right is that it's in government on the left The squad is in government. Yeah. When the democratic party, when, when they have votes to basically censure Rashida Tlaib for basically supporting Palestine, zero Republicans are with that. They're all like, yeah, we're out on this lady. Majority of the democratic party. They're like, yeah, we're, we're with her. We're cool. So from an infrastructure, from a systemic problem in government, in Congress, you just as a Jew, you can't, you can't look at this and say, yeah, I'm with this. Nope. Because if you, if you are, that means you're just turning a blind eye

to everything that's happening and you have to just like the blacks. Basically we're like, yo, we can't get with the Barry Goldwater thing. Civil rights, everything that changed in the early 1960s, change the black vote. This is going to change the Jewish. So you're saying it's gonna be that big. Yeah, but listen, you know 13% of this country is black 1% of this country is Jewish. Yeah, but it's not a big It's not a big number difference, but they have a big voice. They have a they have a massive voice So a flip a flip. It's kind of like saying, I got a thousand people here in a room who are not on social media, but I got a thousand people here about to hear me speak. And then a guy on the other side says, yeah, I got a YouTube channel with 28 million subscribers. I'm willing to have you on the podcast. You got a thousand physical people.

That guy is one person with the kind of influence to, you know, sky. So for me, if, if, if this does happen, if it's a 10 plus percent shift, yeah, I believe so. That's more, that's not a 10% per plus shift because the influence they have, that's going to be astronomical shit. Yeah. When we see the, when we see the genocide, Joe campaign on the left from the Hamas Brigade, when we see this, and they're just like, we can't support Joe Biden. Anyone, anyone with normal sensibilities is going to be like, okay, cool. Just help elect Donald Trump that moved the capital to Jerusalem. Okay.

That will basically squash Hamas. So go ahead, keep campaigning for genocide Joe the Democratic Party is your only chance left Hamas crew To base your voice do you agree with the money? I'm gonna be a double digit shift on the Jewish vote. I Agree with him. Yes. I I agree with him I mean listen, it's November when this is happening right now. We're February. A lot of a lot of different things can happen. But I if it was today, next month, I would say 100. But we've also been fooled by the Trump Trump is a Hitler. He's left. He's like, I don't know. His daughter married an Orthodox Jewish guy called Jared Kushner. His grand, his grandchildren are Jewish this guy grew up in New York City in Staten Island I believe his Queens is raised from he's been around Jews his whole life the fact that people think that Donald Trump is Hitler They would say that but and I I hate to be that guy, but I kind of don't we told everybody so I didn't fall into the personality shit

Because I look past all that and I'm not special. I didn't go to college. How did how did I know shit? Yeah, Thanks, Mike But think about this think about it the black the black vote killer Mike all these people everybody's shifting right ice cube Everybody's going Trump the Jewish vote as you guys are saying as Jewish guys. It's a wrap, right? How are they gonna? They know that they're losing you know how they're gonna keep on to it the 22 million Michael that are coming in here Illegally those people are gonna vote. I got there.'s their only can't vote. Yes They can't how many states Rob how many states can vote with no ID? No, right? No picture on the idea. What do you mean you have to be registered? No, but I thought that was part of the deal how the hell to know they

What do you what do you mean? How do they read and in what state are they gonna register? We all know that California is going blue. We already know that Adam they're gonna flip Texas I don't know that I sent you about the voters was close last time Yeah, but I sent Rob a slack today Rob I sent Rob a slack about there's a guy in Texas Michael going up to all these migrants and interview them asking them who they're gonna vote for Where is this it? No, that's not it. That's that's not that's an illegal that killed somebody and the hits is keep on coming go up. Is that it? That's that's not that's an illegal that killed somebody and the hits is keep on coming go up. Is that it?

That's it right here. He's just going up to migrants pull up the 22. This is the votes ready They're illegals Frickin sieba My dad is a little by the course you are Of course Migrant Trum is something else. Yeah, it's a different thing. It's both But I don't know what kind of policy but any motherfucker that just crossed the border barely speaks English has no clue what the hell is going on I mean should not be able to vote but Adam

But the plans working though. Well, hold on what what you guys think oh yeah here voter identification laws in effect A strict photo ID is the dark blue look at that and then no document required to vote is gray Adam Look at that and then ID required for no photo Guess what this is shady ass business and this is exactly the reason the border is wide open And if you still are out there thinking it's a humanitarian and there there's kids in cages This is shady ass business and this is exactly the reason the border is wide open and if you still are out there thinking it's a humanitarian and there's kids in cages, you're stupid. Because that is the answer right there. Because they know they're losing the black vote, they lost the Jewish vote, they're losing

everybody. I never understood the no ID thing. Dude I need an ID to go into a bar, I need an ID to buy some liquor, I need an ID to buy some cigarettes, I need an ID to go into a bar, I need to go ID to buy some liquor, I need to go buy ID to buy some cigarettes. I need an ID to go anywhere. You need an ID to get on a plane, I need to get here to for anything. But in order to vote?

Is that crazy? No ID needed, explain that to me. It's crazy. Because IDs are racist apparently. It is strategic though, and FYI, your numbers wise, you need how many electoral? 270, right? 270, because Christie's working on it. Do you you know on the states how many states require no idea things like 13 or

14 of the 22 states that doesn't require an ID I think 227 of the electoral are of those states isn't that weird did you did you did you get the numbers it's the majority that's right You did 227 are from states that don't require documentation. So we're screwed. Let me tell you something That's it. Republicans should be thanking their lucky stars or something called the Electoral College Because if it was a popular vote, you guys would get smoked off every single time forget thankful for the electoral Thank God, but I am happy that because Mike I'm not gonna front bro Like I don't know what video you're what your your wife's mom or whatever said and I was just like any all of that negative

Trump cuz and I had to step back and realize that people were sold on it so much because everything told you CNN MSM in the news. He's evil. He's this he would do this It's actually refreshing to see somebody go holy shit The the grass was cut and now I could see the snakes because they're right in front of your face And once they hit how many how many rapper ports are out there? I think a lot. I think it's No, no meaning meaning not you Mike. Oh, he's saying that are waking up to this. Oh, I think it's it's a growing But I mean it's like to me these guys are these very similar, because I remember the first time I talked to him, the first time I talked to Adam, he's like, hey, you know, what if I come join the team by Taman, and you know, I'm at a phase of my life, and he's in Florida

at the time, and I'm in Dallas, Addison. So I came here because we were shooting a video, an ad video for one of our events, which we never ended up using in a footage, because it was using it on a helicopter, and it was at the same time. So'm like I'm not gonna use footage. And then I talked to him I said so tell me politically where you at? So you know I'm like you know independent and I said so how do you feel about Trump? He's like well you know well kind of this and we just kind of it was almost as if like you know,

and I'm like, okay, cool, sounds good. And then you come, you talk, you kind of go through the process. I paid him $1,000 when Biden won on a bet. Paid him $1,000, okay? A lot of people did. Yeah, and the point, and I'll go from there to here, how many people are sitting down saying,

I have buyer's remorse, I have buyers remorse, I want my vote back or sitting there saying I can't do this again for another four years. And I think what I've realized also, and this is something that you're going to have to do with as well, is that dude, you're never going to love the person. Like if you're voting based on the personality, we would all vote for Justin Trudeau. He's nice, he's good looking. We'd all vote for Gavin, because he's got great hair. But policies and personality are totally different. I think Donald Trump's personality is nails on a chalkboard. He speaks, you know,

Kamala Harris, that dirty bitch. Like, when he speaks, it's so inappropriate. The retarded stuff, the McCain stuff, I'm right there with you. But if you can look past the personality and look at the policies, that's what it matters for. You look at Joe Biden, I do it. There's people hate on Joe Biden.

I'm like, he's just like an old, senile, nice guy. He's not some cruel, evil, dick, tit. I don't get the hate. I get that he's old and he's decrepit, and you called him a... A cadaver Joe. A cadaver Joe, nice. Another stroke of the... Another good one. I mean, that's old and he's decrepit and you called him a, a cadaver Joe, a cadaver Joe, nice. Another stroke. Another good one.

I mean, that's good Lord. But when you look at the policies and the open border and the taxes and the LGBTQ ask DEI driven ESG doctrine, it's just hard to just be like, I want more of that baby. So I'm a Paul, and I've had to learn Michael, Michael Rappaport, this was not me, I was just like, ah, I can't do it with Trump, fuck him. But no, you have to look at things and be like,

yeah, as much as he is nail-shown-of-chopped, you have to go policy. I think you're gonna decide for yourself, privately, when you're by yourself, nobody is around and you'll evaluate what's most important policy for you and then you'll adjust accordingly we still got a long ways to go you said it right we're in our February right now the game hasn't even started this is like the pregame how ugly thing it's gonna get the next few months bad to define bad in regard to

Trump by yeah I think I mean it's gonna it's gonna be bad. I think it would be to be to be totally honest. I think it'd be worse if Trump ran and doesn't win. I think shit's gonna get people are gonna go nuts nuts, nuts, nuts. Cause I think his, his core group of, uh, uh, supporters are more prone to, I think the, the, the Biden people are more screaming, yelling, crying, but the other people are more like, yo, we're going to fucking take over the, you know, that, that kind of mentality. So I don't want any of that, you know, nor does anybody, but that, that I think, you know, would be a concern if he lost even Farron Square.

But what evidence do you have that his people might get upset and do something about it? I can't think of anything that they've ever done. Something about this. Well, Dr. J Ward, number six, it was a month that was before this month. I can't think of anything that they've ever done when they get upset.

Yeah, so, but yeah,'s gonna be it's gonna be wild But Nikki Haley do you curious to know what you think about this? So do you think it'll ever get to a time where one of the states Will Separate and become its own country in America. No, you think that's gonna happen in our lifetime. No, tell me why Because it's just not it's's just not a feasible thing. That one of the snow, is that what she's talking about? Texas. No, she's saying it's not possible, but there's discussion about the fact that Texas is so sick and tired of the fact that they're trying to protect the border and Biden's administration is getting involved. So for

some states to say, look, we're going to do it ourselves. We don't need you anymore. That's not going to happen. That's just, it's just, you know, the founding fathers, it's just, it's just not going to happen. It's just, it's just not, it's just can't have Texas. Is it American? It's in my most American state. It's not going to happen. I don't think it's going to happen. You think that could actually happen, PBD? I don't know if I think it's going to happen or not. I think, in PBD? I don't know if I think it's gonna happen or not. I think, I think Texas is most American, but Texas is saying you guys are no longer American. You're France. I think

Texas is saying California is France the other way around. Texas is saying we're following the founders. You're not, you know, we're, we're being American. You're being European. I hear you. This still doesn't mean they're going to be their own country. This is not going to happen. But you said it's going to get very ugly. Yes. Do you think it's going to get ugly to the point where, you know, Trump's camp is going to come out and say, you want to do this? No problem.

We're going to flip six states. And here's what we're going to turn it into. That's going to be its own country. Like, you don't think it's gonna get that ugly, ugly, ugly. Because J6 wasn't ugly. J6, a lot can say, was ugly, but not... Not as ugly as what you're talking about. You're talking about civil war. I'm talking purely to the point where, because I'm thinking that's where you're going.

If you're saying it's gonna get ugly, that means one side is saying, screw you, you let 20 million people in, we will never be able to win again. This will be a Democrat vote for the next 20, 30, 40 years. You're gonna turn this into Europe. We're gonna be losing our voices. And I'm not having this. I'm not gonna live in this. I mean, God forbid that that happens. You know, that's crazy. If it if it is something like that happens, and it's like that kind of thing, I mean, you know, as I've gotten older, you know, anything is possible. You know, there's been a lot of things that have happened, you know, in my adult life that you never thought that the towers

would come down. You know, you there's a lot of things that I never would thought would happen. God forbid that happens. You know, you know, that. You know, that's a dangerous thing, you know, if that happened. It's just, I mean, because think about it though, because if he, the people realize that they're getting screwed over, like, you know, they, Hillary tried cheating in 2016, 2020 was some shady ass shit. What's it? What? Think about this, Mike, 2020, if I think he lost lost. Hold on. But here, but hear me out. He lost. But let me say my piece. In 2020, the Democrats had 80. Oh, it was a 40 or 50 FBI agents at Twitter. No joke. Had offices there working to stop any negative

stories about Joe Biden or Hunter, which they did a poll that they said, what percentage of people would have not voted for Joe Biden if that happened? Do you remember the number? There's a big number. So Mike. But that being said, he still lost. However they played the game, it's dirty game.

But he did lose. I agree with my column. I think that there was the biggest push. And that's why when Joe got the amount of votes and Trump got the amount of votes, because I think everybody came out, I do not think everybody's coming out again, and I do not think like every last American is gonna vote fully agree Yeah, but yeah that being said this narrative and also if there was some somebody in Trump's here

Stop with the fake election rigged election. We got cheated last time you lost Muhammad Ali lost to Joe Frazier in the garden 15 rounds Everybody fucking loses you got to accept you got a he lost that that election You know, it's not like Every single court and there's they they try there's there's no proof of it Well, I gotta move on from that and I think it's a bad look for the Republican Party And it's a ridiculous look for him still be talking about that I mean two things can be true at once what Vinnie saying about Twitter a hundred percent

And the whole and the misinformation and the disinformation the suppression that is a separate conversation Yes, then the actual counting of the votes But do you want to count the boats what is a P lost if want to say, well, if it weren't for all this, these votes would have been different. And I think they pushed them in with the vote. You know, the suppression going into it, but I think that's just part of the game. It's like, you know, like if you could get away

with holding at the offensive, you're holding, but you know, I think they, the Russia, Russia, Russia, I think some of that was real in the Facebook and all that shit, but like this fucking guy still, still sorry to curse he's still talking about the rigged election I was like come on man. There's no rigged election Don't forget he was also talking about a rigged election when he won in Yeah, but at the end of the day, I mean he doesn't trust any I wouldn't trust anybody special 2016 But at the same token he's at the same token

I would rather have nuts behind the wheel right now then by the way the same CEOs Let's say Pat there's two CEOs Mike. You're a CEO and he's a CEO. Would you rather have a boss that is? Loud brash whatever but guess what the building is protected. We get fucking page Or or ready for this the guy that's talking nice But the shit is on fire a hundred. I got but am I gonna I'm not saying don't get me wrong The that what that to me is electric interference is a cheating with Twitter But the mail-in ballot situation with all the shit that I saw and that overnight jump I'm just saying hold on can you blame a guy for not trusting a party that was cheating

with Hillary on 2016 and he still beat that bitch. I don't like when people say he's crazy. He's not. I don't think he is. I think that's the wrong. This is crazy. An egomaniac. Is he a narcissist? Is he thin skinned? Sure. All that, but he's not crazy to think that the media is after him. He's not crazy. State is after course because they are. Yeah are 100%. Okay. So two things again can be true. It's just why it's not black and white. There's a lot of gray area going on here. There's a few things that could happen that can make his life very hard. If the border gets fixed by the end of the year, if they fix it, Trump's chances go lower.

If the economy gets better, dramatically gets better, that decreases his chances. If they shut down the border, and they just close it up and no more people coming in, it'll help hurt Trump. If they put in Newsom and Michelle, it'll hurt Trump. Michelle's not doing this. You know what they just did last week, two weeks ago. So Obama's side, they send out fillers, asking donors, what do you think about the, you didn't hear about this last week? What do you think about the possibilities,

the prospects of Michelle Obama, would you support her? And Obama did that with people out there. Do you have that story Rob, to pull it up? Of course they would. Yeah, so to see what she would do, because they're trying to get somebody that can replace Kamala. They know they can replace Biden. They don't know how to replace Kamala.

And if they had a Newsome Michelle, that's a real interesting race there. If they announce at DNC, it's Newsome Michelle and Adam always says, Vegas odds, president. Newsome as the the president her is vice What whichever one vice versa? No, she's not gonna do vice. That's exactly what I said I'm not gonna do the president either because as cute as it sounds and as egotistical it sounds she and her husband Know that even if she did snap her fingers, and I think she would win You have to do the job and she does not want to do the job I think so maybe. Why would you want to go back to it?

Michelle Obama may have notified people in 22 of her White House condition. I plan to run. I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I don't. I think they know they did this for eight years. They know the grind of it. Yeah.

Oh yeah. Why would she do it? But let me ask you. I've never been in the Michelle Obama's man camp. I've never been in the president. Can't let me ask you. I don't get it. Let me ask you never been in the Michelle Obama man. I've never been in Let me ask you a question for president. Let me ask you question. I don't get it Let me ask you a question How much have become a president on the Democratic side? Hear me out How much have been a president on the Democratic side?

Do you think is you getting picked or you saying I'm gonna be a president? You know what I'm saying. Yeah, okay How much of it do you think is the first one over the second one? I would go ahead Michael you you getting picked So meaning for example you and your wife keep you and we come and we say hey We'd like to have a meeting with you Thursday night at seven o'clock. Yeah It take me for a nice meal and we're gonna say Michael you pick me you Send the car to pick yours. The car's coming Mike. You come to our place, private room, penthouse,

we're sitting there, you walk up. Sushi chef. Yes. Anything you want. We would know what you like. What do you like? Tell us what you like. Sushi chef. That's done. Sofira sushi. Okay. Restaurant? Yeah. Nobu. I mean there's a bunch of nobu, sugarfishes. Sugarfishes. Nobu on that. Sugarfishes is grave, just straight down the middle. There's other places that are more exotic. Noshi Moto. Yeah. You call it? Yeah, yeah.

Yoshi Noya. Yoshi Noya. He's confused. So, okay. What percentage you think? The party comes to you and says, hey, we want you to run, and you're gonna run,

and we got money for you? That works for me and my beautiful wife, but we haven't been president before. So Barack and Michelle Obama, they know the grind. They're living. They're producing. But I want you to know where I'm going. She gets to make a choice. Now I don't think so. I don't. I think they go, yo, we need you. You're going. She doesn't need anybody to say we need you. She understands what's going on. Yeah, but I guess the question I'm asking guys the question is 6040 pep you're saying 6040 saying 6040 the establishment comes in says you've

been chosen you run a poll I'll be 40% buy-in so so let's let's just say let's just say they come to you yeah by the way I'm kind of with you I think it's more them coming to you then I'm gonna go be a president I agree I think there's a lot of guys that say I'm gonna go be a president and you don't even know their first name right yeah and they just don't have it you can have that you know aspirations are great but I'm gonna be an NBA star six inch vertically problem go right go bold you're gonna be okay but okay so if that's the case if Obama's were chosen those same people that came knocking on their doors and turned them into a president, two term, are going to come back and say, look guys, if

you believe in that, now here's the second question. What's the likelihood of those same guys who are not your friends? They're not best friends with you. These are not the type of people that go to dinner with you to get close to you. These are power players power players. I'm going to get a good meal. You will get the good meal. It's going to be very good food. But these are the guys that intentionally keep distance from you, so they can be a bad person to you. And you can't be any emotional about it, because listen, we don't have a relationship.

What are the likelihood of them coming and saying to follow of this conversation taking place? Hey, Michelle, it's party before country, and your party needs you right now. Because if we don't, Trump's going to get elected. And we've ran 200 surveys. We've ran the numbers. We ran analytics.

And the only two that works to win is you as a president, Newsom as a VP. We know you don't want to do this because you have a great life, but if you don't, Trump's gonna get elected. And if you don't, those three things that nobody knows, we would have to leak it. We don't want to, but we would have to leak it.

We would prefer to be easier. We can have you only be a one term, but because after a one term, we can have somebody else come in, but we need you to come in right now because we don't have anybody more qualified than you to be a one term, but because after the one term, we can have somebody else come in. But we need you to come in right now because we don't have anybody more qualified than you to be the VP. What do you think is the likelihood?

I don't think that that would work with her and Barack. It's the two of them. It's not happening. But like, I think, who do you think right now? Tell me why. Why did the Democratic Party? I'm curious, tell me why. Why do you think?

Because I think that they have been there, they've done it, they are living an incredible, successful life of retirement, they're celebrities. And I think that Michelle and Barack, both of them know that they would have to do this job that I think they've already, it's like going backwards. Even though she wasn't the president, I'm not doing this shit.

I sat there and watched this almost kill. My husband came in there, it was lean and mean. It came at her, he's like, you know, he made it out and looking better than most, but I mean they grade him up and it takes a toll on you. And I don't think she's doing it. Their kids are adults. I think they're done.

I just think they're done. Still looks good, but I mean, it takes it so long. What do you think? I personally think it's, I'm being dead ass. Mike, I think it's the, hey listen, because if you think about it, who's in charge of the Democratic Party? Who is it?

I think it's Barakas up there, Hillary's up there. Who else would you put up there, Adam? That's like, behind the scenes, that's like, yo, like listen This is what we're trying to do money the money money So so Mike I kind of feel where he's coming from it's like listen We know you don't want it, but guess what we need you this is it because guess what this cat is is Trump is almost a shoe and if they don't put him in jail if you don't we are done and then he's an exposed everybody

I don't know. Here's here's how I see it. Okay. Here's how I see it. The way I see it is that that won't happen to an anti-establishment candidate. Okay. So what's an anti-establishment candidate? Like, I don't think you can do that with, you know, Kennedys. I don't think can do that with Trumps. I don't think can do that with Trumps. I don't think you can do that with RFK. I don't think you can do that with the anti-establishment guy. But the establishment guy, you know what they're saying. It's a, you know, your vow. Hey, party before anything. So if it's party before anything, that means if we're gonna need you later on, you're gonna have to come, you're going to have to come to this, and that includes if later on you're going to kind of run again because it's pretty bad. Because you know what's going to happen if Trump gets elected?

Do you know what the first term Trump got in? What did he really do? On his first term? What did Trump really do to Hillary? What did Trump really do to anybody? Nothing really. Actually think about how, how you know how you say his bark is. Loud than his bite.

So, so he said you'd be in jail. Yeah, right. He never went after her. Yeah. So he never did nothing. Would you be concerned if Trump got, I know we're staying on Michelle, the pretend now, but would you be concerned with,

with all his resentment and anger towards all these people? If he did win, that that would be his agenda and it would sort of, you know, like, just get revenge on everybody? If in the following way, if in the following way, if he gets in, he'll fire Ray, he'll fire, he'll replace Powell He'll get rid of a lot of guys that he doesn't like that he sees as establishment and if he

Gets the right people in that are able to find out remember when the Twitter files was coming out and we were learning that the f5 Was in on it and they were saying you can't do this you can't do that if we get the FBI files if we get CIA files meaning if somebody goes in and shows like how dark it is in these institutions and he finds out that the Barak's and the Hillary's and the Michelle, he really, really finds out, I think it's going to be vengeance. Yeah. If it gets to that level. Is that good for the country? I don't think it is. But what I'm saying to you is if he goes in and just wants to get

the job done and he does what he does with the economy and then gets another person to come in and be there for eight years, great. But for me, from the standpoint of ask the question the other way, ask the question the other way, what if he doesn't find out? What if another person from the establishment is still running America? What if he doesn't find out? What if another person from the establishment is still running America? What if another person from the establishment is still in the White House? What do they do? They keep using the weapon, the justice,

the DOJ to weaponize against anybody they want. And what does that mean? Somebody you support later on, a candidate you support later on, I mean, that is not a country you wanna be living in. It is not a place you wanna be in because at that point, your voice doesn't matter. You're nobody at that point.

So regardless, he didn't do anything on first term. So you have to ask why. He either didn't do it because he wanted to be softer on first so he gets reelected or he was just never gonna do it, period. It was just a threat. I think it was more of a threat. And if that's the case, he gets elected, they're not gonna do anything. But if you're Michelle, if you're Barack, if you're Hillary, if you're the establishment

on the left, do you think they believe that? I don't think they do. No, I don't think they believe what you think. No, I think they think he's gonna go in and seek vengeance. I don't think they believe what you think. No, I think they think he's gonna go in and seek vengeance I don't yeah, I think so. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, if you believe what you just said you do Yeah, if you believe that they believe that he's gonna go into seek vengeance Then Michelle has to go run and you you just said you thought he might seek vengeance But you said if he got I don't think he needs any more information At this point to find find out, yeah. Pretty blatantly obvious at this point.

He's got enough what he needs and he's been, you know, everybody's going after him, you know, some valid, some not valid, so he goes in there. I don't think it'll be like, I don't think it'll be that aggressive. I think he's gonna come in like you said, fired, if I, but then guess what though, Michael? I think he's gonna go 100%

Shut the border dude like he is gonna come in again like saying if Trump wins if Trump wins I think he's gonna obviously fire the people that need to be fired the people ever the the the cats that were like I don't think that's the question. Wow. I don't think that's the question. I'm telling you that's not the question I think the question is the establishment left How much do they fear Trump getting reelected that he's gonna do that? A lot. Oh, give me a score between zero to 100.

100. Okay, perfect. If that's the case, Michelle has to run. I'm paying you 100 bucks. I got 100 here, Michelle's not running. VP or press, night. She's producing Netflix films. Yeah, I listen

it's an easy job so Michael does not think so you show she might run I'm not no no you know running I'll do a hundred just to have fun I don't know but what I'm saying to you is if if the left if the left wants to win there's only two people that's Vegas odds That's right now. But I'm number one is Trump winning twos by number threes. Michelle Michelle was there. She's gonna run Vegas. No, something I'm on you though. Michael. This was a couple months ago. She wasn't even on the top 30, bro. 40. Michelle just jumped up. That's crazy, bro. I've heard that too. I just don't. I just don't see that. It's still 11 to one.

Look, it's still February. Is it in the realm of possibility? Yes. I've been the, the, the biggest, uh, proponent that she's not running. There's been no evidence of running. You know, if, if I could pretend to be Joe Biden for a second and what do you think the convert you, it's easy to say he's a, he's dementia. It's easy to say he's an old man. It's easy to say he's a cadaver. It's easy to say he's not really running the easy to say he's an old man it's easy to say he's a cadaver it's easy to say he's not really running the country but let's just role play for a second if I'm Joe Biden I don't even know if he has this kind of oomph in him but if he's if he wanted to say listen you know Trump came in here he tore down Obama's legacy in 2016 there's that video of Obama showing him

around the White House. That was embarrassing. You guys ran Hillary Clinton lost. You tried to have Bernie Sanders come in lost. I show up freaking Joe Biden. I win. Now again, he's a little delusional here. This is role playing here. So Michelle Obama's never, she's never been elected for anything in her life. She's never been elected dog catcher. All of a sudden she's just gonna manifest herself and become President of the United States. If there is a plan, look at what's going on.

Biden just won New Hampshire, he won Nevada, he won South Carolina. This plan I think will be unfolded by Super Tuesday, which is in 25 days from now, March 5th. If he's still the candidate, at what point are we gonna be like, all right, I think Joe Biden is actually running. You know what, you know what I believe that? Yeah, that's a good point. I believe that at DNC. So I will believe after August.

August? Yeah. I will believe then that you're right. But I'm just telling you the answer to the question starts with how concerned do you think the left is 100% and if that's how concerned they are they're not gonna take an L to say let's just take this L this year and go get our draft picks and let's kind of rebuild like you know what is that one model those 76ers had every year tank in the trust the process or whatever it was are we gonna just trust the process no no no if you believe this is it because Trump's not gonna run 2028 say. Say Trump loses this year, he thinks he's going to run 2028. He's done it.

He's done it. But the point is, if... But that animal, you never know. Exactly. I would not rule anything out of Trump. If you think he's that formidable, and you know no one's ever won with their approval rating being in the 30s, that includes Biden, that includes Carter, that includes a bunch of guys that were in the 30ies that never got reelected. Then you cannot sacrifice a

election to give it up to Trump. You have to go to your bench and you have a good bench with two players, two players you got. Yeah, there's a good place. What you're saying is completely normal. It is not for a fetch at all. No, just this is the Henry Kissinger doctrine. Basically stop being like a, a, so you have to think as a pragmatist in reality, not wishful thinking. The pragmat, the, the pragmatic point of view would be like, he's running. He's announced his candidacy. He's the incumbent of the president of the United States. He's running in the train has left the station. They're acknowledging how fucking bad the poll numbers are.

80 years old. Did you see my whole, do you have that video of mine? I just saw it. It's just a comedian. It's just, it's to the point where I feel bad. I'm not even trying to touch you. It ain't a good look for the, also, it's not a good look for the country or the presidency.

And he's talking about Hamas here, right? Is this the one round pack? Can we show this? I haven't seen this place. Look at how, look at how. It's yesterday at how yesterday right forgot what Hamas's name was look at this some movement and I don't want I don't want some other piece piece I mean choose my words watch this some movement there's been a response from the... Somebody has to yell it out, look, look.

There's better response from the opposition. But yes, I'm sorry. Somebody yelled Hamas, I'll be blinking. But it seems to be a little over the top. No, listen, these guys. That's sad, that's sad. Let me ask you a question as of today And also, I appreciate the way that you went at that dude that was here that fucking the guy My good friend boss amuse the comedian shout out to you the comedian. Yeah, but but um

How do you see this coming to an end? But how do you see this coming to an end with Hamas and the hostages and everything that we're dealing with? How do I see it coming to an end? Right now with Hezbollah, the hostages, and what's going to be the end of this? Let's wrap up on this topic We got prepped for upstairs, but here's what I would say with that part. I think It would be good for Jews if Biden doesn't get caught on a hot mic saying, you know Fnet and yahoo go f yourself neither. He's an idiot or something bad guy. Right. She's an F and bad guy. Yeah. So you say that to net Nia who net Nia who decides two days ago,

cease fire, deal is off the table. Right. Okay. Because he knows us doesn't have his back. So then you have to hope somebody else comes in. That's not happening right now, because when it's this deep in things, there's not going to be another person stepping in. Iran is publicly the, you know, the leaders are saying, hey, you know, we're going to suspend our attacks on U.S. soldiers and bases. Okay, so U.S. attacks 125 bombs and 85 locations or something like that And then you got these guys on the other side with Iran who are doing proxy galore Hamas Houtis you know Hezbollah and They have Russia has their back China has their back She's Iran has the second largest military in the Middle East

587,000 active soldiers 200,000 reserve soldiers Iran number three oil reserve in the world behind Venezuela behind Saudi Saudis got 22 Venezuela's got 24 for Iran's got 17% and you know the other day Wall Street Journal story came out saying the fact that if a billionaire wanted to build a nuclear bomb What would it take him to build? You know what it was a billion dollars and five years to build it So if a billionaire can build independently a nuclear weapon with only a billion dollars and it would take him five years You really are that naive to believe that Iran doesn't already have a nuclear weapon

How naive are you to even believe that and talk to us? Like as if you have looked at every square inch of Iran underground. We just saw what the Hamas built underground. What do you think they're getting trained? They're getting trained by the professionals who are the OGs in Iran that are teaching. So we are way too naive with Iran. The only way you can fight them off,

the closest thing we had, every single time it was almost close to Tappel and then there being a revolution is Iranian the Hezbollah leaders the people at the top the Khomeini and those guys you know who they fear they fear their women they fear their kids they fear sanctions they fear students they fear not who you think they fear, that's who they fear. And by the way, interesting data. When they held hostages, 50 students, this is during the Carter era,

you know how long they kept the hostages? For 444 days. You know when they released these hostages? A second after Reagan was giving his inauguration speech. A second. You kept them for 400, I think it's 444 days right there. They kept them for 444 days, 50 hostages. The moment of Reagan came in, they're like, holy shit.

So Iran fears a strong leader like Reagan and Trump, they fear it. Somebody that's like, you do something, I will take a Ghatsam Soleimani and everybody else, if you do this ever again to the US, troops ever again, that's number one, they fear their women, They fear their kids. They fear their students. They fear sanctions. And that's what Trump was pushing. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. But today with Hamas, with Israel, unfortunately, U.S. the leader at the top is not showing that publicly

they're supporting them. They're actually showing a, I don't know man, that's not a good look. There's no strength. When you see something like that and they're watching, there's no strength. You can do whatever you want. You're right. The only thing Iran needs to know is one thing. If Iran knows US has Israel's back, they shiver. 100%. But they know they don't. And they're sitting there saying this is awesome news. Yep. This is awesome news. Best news ever them. Yeah. For that big time for Iran, not for, of course, great news for them. Anyways, Michael really enjoyed it, man. This was awesome. This was amazing. So we got two bets. We got two. One of the

best is here. Big bets. Big bets. Our bet on camera. Making the next finals and making the finals. They don't have to win Michelle and he's and he's Michelle just running Mike. He's just running and I got a hundred dollar bet. The fact that I came to this show and we didn't discuss one thing about movies, barely anything about sports and anything else is astonishing to me because the last, I just never thought that I would be sort of just having these kinds of discussions because it's not something that you know years ago was Six seven years ago was in my wheelhouse of discussion. So

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