PBD Podcast - Where's the RED Wave?? | PBD Podcast | EP 23

Episode Date: November 6, 2020

In this Episode, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Danielle DiMatino Booth and Adam Sosnick to discuss the 2020 election results.  The Patrick Bet-David Show Podcast Episode 23. Download the podca...sts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3kF7BT1 Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list The Bet-David Podcast is a podcast that discusses, current events, trending topics, and politics as they relate to life and business. Stay tuned for new episodes and guest appearances. Connect with Patrick on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patrickbetdavid/?hl=en Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/patrickbetdavid Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PatrickBetDavid.Valuetainment Follow the guests in this episode: Danielle DiMartino Booth: https://bit.ly/36nGzLn Adam Sosnick: https://bit.ly/2PqllTj To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: info@valuetainment.com About the host: Patrick is a successful startup entrepreneur, CEO of PHP Agency, Inc., emerging author, and Creator of Valuetainment on Youtube. As a natural critical thinker, Patrick takes complex leadership, management, and entrepreneurial ideas and converts them into simple life lessons for today and tomorrow’s entrepreneurs. Patrick is passionate about shaping the next generation of leaders by teaching thought-provoking perspectives on entrepreneurship and disrupting the traditional approach to a career. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, so welcome to episode number 23 of the David podcast. Today we have with us Adam Saasnik and we have Daniel de Martino booth. And we got a lot to cover. You know, it's been a crazy last 48 hours. We want to sleep November 3rd thinking Trump's winning. You woke up everything flipped. And now Biden's got a lead. You said 85% chance that he's winning the numbers at our
Starting point is 00:00:22 David. So Daniel, why don't you tell us what are you thinking? Right? And what's what's happened last 48 hours? Well, hey, you went to sleep Tuesday night. I feel like I've been on a ups and setters since Friday night. You did not sleep Tuesday night. This is the, well, I, I've, I've slept for a few hours, but very difficult because they
Starting point is 00:00:39 were calling into the night. And the, and the, the, the Wisconsin call was kind of the next bit, but the moment was Arizona. That was the absolute moment. You know, they've interviewed the guy at Fox News who made the call. There are stories out on the wires that give a vast description of what the reaction was like in the White House yesterday. The phone calls being made to the governor of Arizona, you know, just complete and total shock because he took Maricopa County in 2016, where Phoenix is. And because that's where the vast majority of the votes have yet to be counted. So it's that Arizona that is really dividing the media
Starting point is 00:01:19 right now that is the focus. That being said, if you look again at Vegas odds, and those obviously the polls are garbage. So if you look at Vegas odds, you know, you've got 71% going for Arizona, even as we continue to tally in more votes, more importantly, you've got Pennsylvania at 80%. You've got Georgia at, at, at, at When you're, what do you mean 80% Pennsylvania? Total counted, you're saying. Just total counted, gotcha. No, no, no, no, no, this is Vegas probability of winning. Got it.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Of winning. 80% is for who in Georgia? And in Georgia, it is at 60, 60%. Yep, 60% in Georgia. Biden, you're saying Biden is up in Georgia. Biden is up in Georgia. Biden is up in Georgia. Biden is up in Georgia. In Pennsylvania, in Georgia. Biden is in Georgia. Probably was Vegas.
Starting point is 00:02:06 And yep. So Georgia, he's got a 60% chance of winning. Pennsylvania, he's got an 85% chance of winning Arizona. He's got a 71% chance of winning. They think Nevada is a shoe in. So theoretically, you know, the time we get to the first announcement, we were expecting an announcement out of Nevada last night that those six electoral votes will get him over the 270 line, at least as far as Fox News and the Associated Press are concerned. So
Starting point is 00:02:34 that is, that is the first one that we're waiting for this morning, unless we get Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is the only one that's a little bit if you're because there is the potential to take Pennsylvania because of a recent ruling to the Supreme Court. Same situation does not apply in the other states. Pat, I mean, let's talk about where we've been for the last 24- so hours. We did an amazing podcast, a marathon podcast. Seven hours. Seven hours strong.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Pat went to the bathroom zero times. I'm more proud of that than anything. I went 12, 15 times. You might want to visit a, you know, that's a problem. I went, I'm not going first. That was our friend Tom's and I went first. I was holding it up. He's got to, we went, we went seven hours strong, right? Massapala was here, respect to Matt. Ray Krocke was here. Obviously Tom, our friend, Jarrah, we had a surprise guest. Tom Ellsworth showed up. He's geeking out on some giga, giga, giga, and numbers and stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And we had a marathon and what happened? We all did a recap of the night. And we thought, going, you know, we left here two, three and the morning, we thought, all right. Trump's gonna be the guy again, right? And we all kind of gave our sayings. And I even said, obviously it's been unashamedly, I'm not a Trump fan. I even said, look, if he wins again, right? And we all kind of gave her sayings and I even said obviously it's been unashamedly. I'm not a Trump fan. I even said, look, if he wins again, I hope that he can bring this country together. I actually went to bed that night saying, all right, like, what am I thankful
Starting point is 00:03:56 for? If Trump's the president, all good, but like, I control my own destiny, what am I thankful for? Yeah. Got my health, I got my wealth, I got my friends, I got my family, I got success. Let me be thankful. And I woke up yesterday morning as we all did 24 hours ago or so and I was like, hold on, what? Binds up now? Look, it flipped so crazily. And I mean, you remember in 2016,
Starting point is 00:04:19 it was the Florida moment. And once we saw, I mean, it was the New York Times calling Florida four years ago. But once we saw Florida, once we saw Florida go to Trump, it's like, okay, I've seen this movie before. I know what the ending is. And it was that Florida element and their events such that was called really and then Florida was called earlier than we had expected. And again, it's not just a Cuban expat community, but as we've spoken of, and after one of the debates, there are a lot of Venezuelans there as well. You know, you mentioned the
Starting point is 00:04:48 word socialist, and they go crazy. So, you know, that was, you know, that was maybe to be expected. I watched him, they call Texas after Florida for heaven's sake. Pat, give us your recap. We left here two, three in the morning. Yeah. That was Tuesday night. We're now Thursday. We're 48 hours later. So give us your recap. We left here two, three in the morning. Yeah. That was Tuesday night. We're now Thursday, we're 48 hours later or so. Give us your recap. Were you at emotionally, mentally, at your recovery?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah, I mean, you have to realize everything here is when you run a business, you got a family, you're going through a lot of different positions, you look at it from a different perspective. But the one party you have to realize is, you have to give credit to Democrats. You just have to give credit to Democrats. You just have to give credit to Democrats. And what I mean by Democrats is the fact that these guys, even though
Starting point is 00:05:30 many of them cannot stand each other, I had a guy yesterday who was a former Antifa guy at 2011, 2012, he was part of Antifa and he left, okay. He was a far left liberal and in all of a sudden he changes. Young guys, not's not 27 years old, so 2012 he was what? 19 years old, 18 years old, and he's talking about... He's a kid, but at the same time he's talking about the systems, how they recruit it. I said, so tell me about Antifa, he says, look, I said, who's Antifa's hero? Okay? Check Vera, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:59 Check Vera. Check Vera. I said, who else is their hero today? I said, dude, they look, who's their enemy? And I'm waiting when I say enemy for him to say what? Trump. Trump. He says, no, it's not Trump.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I said, who is the enemy? He says, everything about the American idea is their enemy. Their enemy is Christopher Columbus. What? He said, what do you mean Christopher Columbus, their enemy? He says, what America was founded on? I said, so they like AOC. He says, they hate AOC. I said, they like a OC. He says they hate a OC
Starting point is 00:06:25 I said I'm confused. I said so what do you mean they Hey, he says the day a OC came out with a hundred and three trillion dollar package for the climate change They said this is a capitalistic What do you call a capitalistic plan that she's so even Are they anarchists? What are they? They are, they're fully, they want to change everything about America, take it back to what it was. Pre Christopher Columbus,
Starting point is 00:06:49 two main America great again to what that was. So what am I saying with this part? And I said, tell me about BLM, tell me about this. So we went through all this other stuff and what their conversations was like, this kid who was a former Antifa left on November 3rd, you know what he did in DC?
Starting point is 00:07:03 He dressed up like Antifa, put the black mask on, went with them to see what they're saying and what they're talking to the Antifa guys that he was one of them, just to kind of see what's going on, right? He was like, dude, I was scared. I don't know what's going on. I just kind of got myself out there to see what the language is. It's like an undercover agent. Yeah, exactly, but the point what he said, the point I'm trying to make to use the phone, the point he said, oh, what he did see is in DC
Starting point is 00:07:25 He said it's crazy because the media was supporting Antifa the Antifa guys would say hey Why are you recording this why are you recording this don't recourse over so sorry? We'll go this angle so the journalist of a lot of these big publications. They were controlling The influence to not show the bad things they were doing anyways The point I'm trying to make to you is, you go to sleep, you wake up in the morning and you see what's going on. It's okay, Michigan.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Michigan was done. I mean, you sat there and said 80%. I mean, this thing is 64%, 65%. You're thinking it's over with and then you wake up, things flip. Democrats united, whether it's AOC's camp, the four horsemen, you know who I'm talking about. The squad. Whether it's them, whether it's Sanders, whether it's the Clinton's, whether it's AOC's camp to four horsemen, you know who I'm talking about the squad,
Starting point is 00:08:05 whether it's them, whether it's Sanders, whether it's the Clinton's, whether it's the Obama's, whether it's the Lincoln project, whether it's in fighting and they just said, listen, guys, we can't stand each other sometimes. We don't like each other, screw you, the hell with you. But guess what, the enemy of this state is who, Trump, we got to do whatever we can to put them on. Now, the numbers you got to see, which is pretty impressive as the following in 2000, when McCain ran, when McCain ran, he got 4% of Latino vote.
Starting point is 00:08:33 No, McCain ran, he run four, he got four. That's all he got. So all he got, by the way, Romney got 6%, okay. Black vote, McCain got 4% of the black vote. Romney got 6% of the black vote. Trump got 8% of the black vote in 2016ney got 6% of the black vote. Trump got 8% of the black vote in 2016. You know what percent of the black vote? He got more the black vote than Romney and McCain combined. So the conversation, my racism is gone America
Starting point is 00:08:56 doesn't believe that. Latino votes. I don't know about all that, but no, no, that's out. I mean, the people that want to propaganda that part, they can say that, but that conversation is out, okay? Which conversation is that? He's a racist. He's this, he's that. That's out. I mean, the people that want to propaganda that part, they can say that, but that conversation is out, okay? Which conversation is that? That he's a racist. He's this. He's that. That's out because that's increasing. And it's becoming more out. I think there's still a lot of people that think he's racist. But for McCain, is McCain racist? I don't think any of them are a quarter of a racist.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Well, do you think McCain is racist? I would not say that. Okay, he got three times more black votes than McCain did. Think about that. This is the whole black zit. Yeah, black zit. But he got three times more black vote than McCain got twice as much as Romney. Even as, even as both parties as Trump is, and they're both part of like him. They're both part of the Lincoln project.
Starting point is 00:09:38 McCain and Romney can. Send him McCain. Yes. Well, I mean, you just got to put in the McCain. Then you look at the Latino and, and McCain and, and, and, and, and, and, and when he ran, he got 31%. So he had the Latino vote because his Arizona, then he had, around he got 27% of the Latino vote. Then Trump got 28 and 2016.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Then Trump got 32% this time around, 32%. That's not good for long term Democrats because if it's at 32% in climbing them, these Latinos are starting to say, listen, man. And by the way, it's what she said early, Venezuela, Cuba, a lot of these folks have looked. We are not dealing with socialism. So the more socialism creates momentum, the more we know we get. We don't have to call in from my buddy in Miami who called in and he was like, my uncle died on a raft.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I don't know. He's like, oh, Adam, I know you've got that. Yeah, yeah. Oh, what's up, Nelson? They've got their six degrees of separation. For know. He's like, oh, Adam, I know you've got a shot. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's up now. So they've got their six degrees of separation. For sure. And you lived in Caracas. I lived in Caracas.
Starting point is 00:10:30 That's right. I'm like, how you. That's Venezuela. I mean, that's like legit. So she said, so, so you're saying what happened? Look, I tell you, I respect the opponent that outstratigizes you. The in life, I believe in four things. Outwork, out and prove outstratigized out less. Trump outwork worked. Okay, let's just face it. Trump out work. There's no question
Starting point is 00:10:49 he out work. There's no question he outlasted. He lasted a longer time. Okay, where he's gone. The last day five rallies, all the stuff that he's doing, they did not out strategize. They did not out strategize. The Democrats out strategize. It's that simple. They united. That was strategy. By the way, you know what's crazy. So think about it. This one in sales. You know how you're selling something and you make the offer of what you're going to ask later on in the presentation, but you ask it early and you say, it's simple. It's something like, look, John, is it fair to look, I get paid based on commission and I get paid based on taking care of you. If I show you, you know, if I'm able to take care of it, it's a fair to setting any, you know, help me
Starting point is 00:11:27 with referrals. You say what? Yes. If I say that and step two on my presentation, I'm preparing myself on step number nine. I've already prepped you. You know, I'm here. I'm asking you for evidence and then go for the close. Can you tell me when the Democrats started saying vote? They've been saying it for six plus months. When have the Republican? How long have Republicans been saying it? Not as long as the Democrats. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:50 So now watch it. What organization did the Democrats win over to keep saying vote, vote, vote? Tell me what organizations that the Democrats win over? Well, the first thing that comes to mind is the NBA. Yeah. So, so you got the NBA. What else do you have? I'm taking the Lincoln project.
Starting point is 00:12:04 What else do you have? Um, I the Lincoln project. What else do you have? I mean, the entire democratic Hollywood, well, Hollywood, obviously, it's on this side because it doesn't get quick. Hollywood, what else do you have? What else do you have? I mean, the list goes on and on and on. What do you got? So you got sports? You got Hollywood. Yeah, you got social, you got the rock, you got the rock, you got all these guys. So they came together and quite frankly, they started selling this six months ago and Republicans started two months ago. Let me say it in 2018, when the House flipped. We have to vote. We have to vote for strategy wise. You just got to give it up to their strategy.
Starting point is 00:12:39 But you have to say that there was a concerted effort on the port on the part of the Republican party that was, that was organized in Texas, that was organized in Florida, that was organized in Latin strongholds that did have a successful get out the vote campaign. Can you tell me a big Democrat that didn't support the Democrats? A big Democrat that, no, no. Okay. Can you name it? They're a couple. They want to give me a big Democrat that no, no. Okay. Can you name it? They're a couple.
Starting point is 00:13:05 They need a big name. He's not a big name, but there was a, there was a state legislator in Atlanta. I'm sorry. And Georgia, they came out and spoke about the name. You don't even know the name. Can you tell me a big Republican that didn't support the Republican? A lot of them. They can be named.
Starting point is 00:13:20 The governor of the state of New Hampshire, John K. Sick, who got Colin Powell. Romney said I didn't vote for Trump. Right. So because the governor of the state of New Hampshire, who's a Republican came out and said, I have just voted for Biden. Right. The entire Lincoln project.
Starting point is 00:13:32 The point I'm trying to make it, and by the way, here's a difference between Republicans and Democrats. Who has a big rego? Republicans are Democrats. Republicans. Who has big regos? I think Republican. Who has more of the mindset of, I don't need you, I can do this while my own.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Republican. So, there are problems like, dude, I don't need you. You know, I got you. I can, you know, whatever. Yeah, they're so competitive with each other because their spirit is competition. Right, like how much time did, how many times did Trump call out, fellow, loser Republican, loser Mitt Romney, who doesn't happen in the Democratic Party? They're far more competitive, which hurts them sometimes.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Democrats are very united. Their enemy is one enemy. Right. So look at what was going on behind the scenes. So Trump, after John McCain died, Trump continued to criticize him, knowing that it was hurting him, knowing that it was hurting him, his advisors are saying, rest in peace, be quiet. And on top of that, he refused to travel to Arizona. He didn't want to be in an overnight situation where I do sleep overnight somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:14:37 So his campaign advisors are saying, you are blazing a trail across this country. We've never seen such energy. You got to physically go to Arizona. No, I don't want, I don't like, he never went to Arizona. What you're saying on top of it, you see his rally in Arizona, though, the 96 mile long Trump. Oh, my gosh, I got it. I got it. But he didn't physically come to Arizona. Arizona earlier in Arizona, Arizona was one of the hardest hit states when it came to coronavirus fatalities because of the demographics because it's an older state.
Starting point is 00:15:10 So he had three things going against him in the state that he didn't correct for by going there. Wednesday last time a Democrat won Arizona. Do we know that? Oh gosh. You can pull it up, Kai, because it's based on that list when you look at states, you know, that whole thing we look at. And also, Kai, also wins the last time a Democrat won Georgia. Jimmy Carter. Gosh, that's probably 76. Probably true. I mean, just think about these states that Biden is potentially going
Starting point is 00:15:42 to win. And if he doesn't win for whatever reason, Razor Thin margins, he has flip states that have traditionally voted Republican. Eras was Arizona. 96, who's Arizona? 96 Clinton. And that's because of, well, that was at Rospro was in in that one.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And what about Georgia, Kai? Kai on the ones and two, shout out to our Norwegian nightmare over there, Kai Kai doing our research. There's nothing nightmare about Norway, Norway. The good kind of nightmare. You don't want them in your dreams. So get Georgia. 92 Georgia. So Clinton.
Starting point is 00:16:14 It's the Ross Pro. Yeah, the Ross Pro. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, got it. Plus he was a boy from the South. So hundreds of million votes. But there is a movement that has occurred in Fulton County. I mean, you have to Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Atlanta. Yeah. And you keep saying Maricopa County, what city is that? Phoenix. Phoenix. Phoenix. Interesting. And he won, Trump won Phoenix Handlely in 2016.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Well, right. Here's a very interesting point. Here's a point that I would love to get your guys perspective on this. Pick a pick any major city in America, any major city in America, they voted blue. You go to the red estate in America, go to Oklahoma, go to West Virginia, go to Kansas, go to Nebraska, pick any major city in those states. They voted Democrat. And then so you look at any state, pick a state, go on a map.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Louisiana, they vote red Alabama, they vote red Mississippi, they vote red Oklahoma, they vote red, the list, Alaska, they vote, yeah, they vote red. Look at any major city in any state in America, they voted Democrat. And then so you have these wide swaths of red, red, red, red, and then boom, targeted major cities. Boom, targeted major cities. What's the story there? Obviously, there's no secret rule America goes Trump, goes Republican. Every single major city goes blue. And I know there's someone out there that's going to be like, well, there's one city in West Virginia. I get it.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Okay. So I won't say 100% let's say 99.9%. Yeah. It's not so much left first right. No, it's conservative versus liberal. It's not as liberal. It's not as liberal. I mean, when you're talking about cities, you're talking about city funding, city budgets,
Starting point is 00:18:02 public pensions. You're talking about the need for fiscal federal aid in many cases. I mean, your biggest example is the city of Chicago, but that's, you know, that is your extreme example, but whittle that down to every big city in most states in the United States, and you're going to have similar big city type of issues. And that is that you tend to have bigger fire departments. You tend to have the teachers' union think about Texas in Austin, and where is all of Texas' pension money run in Austin, Texas? That's the democratic stronghold of our state here where we are. So any city that
Starting point is 00:18:46 has massive public financing issues tends to need more federal assistance. Well, let me ask you this, Danielle, because that's the socio-economic component for the most part right there. What about just the social component? What's this? This is more of a question than an answer. I'd love to get your perspective. What's the reason that's part of it clearly? Is there something to be said for in cities? You're surrounded by all sorts of people. If you're in Chicago, if you're in New York City, if you're in LA, if you're in Miami, if you're in Dallas,
Starting point is 00:19:17 you're meeting white people, Latinos, Asians, Gays, Straits, this, that, everything, fat, skinny, da da da da da da, whereas if you're in rural, you're like, man, get the hell off my property. I'm over here. I got my, let me be just, I'm not surrounded by all the different type of people. I don't got these Latinos over here. I don't have, you know, blacks coming here like rural America is white.
Starting point is 00:19:37 So that's why I'm giving that example. What about the social component? Where are your thoughts on that? I'm going to, I'm going to let Patrick jump in here. Yeah, so, I mean, the way I would look at it is a different way. Here's how I would say to you, what's easier to sell, being a Republican or being a Democrat? Being a Democrat. Which principles is easier to sell, to sell?
Starting point is 00:19:58 So say I'm somebody that's clueless about politics and I'm sitting here and I say, honestly, I have no clue what to vote for you. I don't know. And I'm just a regular person making 50, 60, 70 grand a year. What's an easier thing to sell? What concept depends what your pitch is? The okay. So how do you how do Democrats pitch themselves as as givers? As givers. Okay. We're there for the people. We support you. We want we want to increase your minimum. What's easier to offer a fairs days work? Yeah. Well, I mean, for the people. We support you. We want we want to increase your minimum way. You're to a fair affairs day's work. Yeah. Well, I mean, if the Republican party said you want to be left alone, no, no,
Starting point is 00:20:30 it's easier to sell it. And he's your holiday in mind. It's just a simple quote. What's easier to sell? She's just someone's giving you free stuff. That's probably easier to sell. It's easier to sell. Do you want that easier line?
Starting point is 00:20:41 Or do you want a harder line? Now watch the Republicans. You know the father that kids grow up not liking? What does the father say? Make your father cry and get your act together. Make your bed. Get out the save your money. Get to work.
Starting point is 00:20:54 You need a job. Get off the couch, right? I mean, shake it off. That father, who the hell likes that guy? He just filled on a flight of steps. Get up, shake it off. Yeah, exactly. And you know that, you see the football games, basketball,
Starting point is 00:21:06 I mean, I was a kid, I'm going around the track, a bike, every kid is on this bike track, and my dad were in Iran, and I parked his shahe and shahe, and I said, that I want to go the other way. He says, they're going to hit you. I said, I'm going the other way. He says, okay, do what you want to do, but you're going to get hit. So all the kids are going this way.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I still going to just a famous story, but David family, they keep telling each other. So everyone's going like this, 60, 70 all the kids are going this way. I still going to just a famous story that they've been to family. They keep telling each other. So everyone's going like this. 60, 70 kids, I'm going this way. I'm like, oh my gosh, it feels like I'm going faster. Then I'm looking at my dad. Boom, I hit a kid. I fly off the bike.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I fall on the ground. I'm bleeding everywhere. The kid is bleeding everywhere. Kids' parents run up. What does the matter with you? They say, who's your parents? It's the point of my dad. I point at my dad. My dad's pointing at the water. David Shatter my my dad's pointing at the water faucet. He says go wash yourself. He didn't come to me So I went and washed myself, but I'm not crying the other kid is crying
Starting point is 00:21:57 This is okay. So what are you gonna do? Which way you want to go? I think I'm gonna go the other way It's okay. Go the other way, right? What's the moral of the story? That's an annoying other way. It's okay. Well, the other way, right? What's the moral of the story? That's an annoying quality. You know, you want your dad to run up to, oh my gosh, baby, are you good? That's the difference, so, but what's good for you? So when you say that, I don't know what's your point because to me, it's like whose message is easy to buy into when I'm naive? That message is a lot easier message to find. But we are assuming that there's people who are just completely clueless and that's why they're voting Democrat. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Do you remember the video I showed on the marathon where I showed a RFK when MLK died and he got up and he gave the speech. Powerful speech. And he said, you know, I have some bad news for you. Martin Luther King was just shot and killed and you hear the screaming. Crowd gas. Crowd gas, right? And then he says, there's two ways we can handle this situation.
Starting point is 00:22:44 One is what? One is to go out the name cards. We bench, and we're in the other one is, or we can come together like Martin Luther King. He says, the bad news is the man that killed your Martin Luther King was a white man. He says, the interesting stories I relate to because I just had a loved one as well recently die. And he was also killed by white men, which is John F. Kennedy. So, but that happens today. If today and modern day MLK gets shot and the modern day RFK gets up and gives a speech, is that what he's going to say? I don't know if that's what they're going to say today. I think the messaging today is very divisive today.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I think the way the Democrats are selling today, they're selling Trump's racist, they're selling Republicans or racists, they're selling. And quite honestly, it's easier to sell people on emotions rather than logic. Emotions, it's easier selling logic. Yes. Maybe this is a good time saying speaking of, is there someone that can command speak? At some point during the show today, we should show it Biden had to say, because what he had to say is actually very powerful. And it's something that I wish campaign as a Democrat, but I'll go.
Starting point is 00:23:43 But I'm going to go for everyone. There's like an American. It was actually a very powerful statement that he came out to. It is. And it is something that is definitely getting under the skin of the progressives and the far left in the party because as much as he is delivering a message to all of the United States and everybody in it and saying, you will all be my constituents. He's also implicitly saying, I'm not going to necessarily be pliable and I'm not necessarily
Starting point is 00:24:13 going to be drawn into your narrative and what you want to do. So I'm going to govern for everybody. And I mean, the undertone of his statement is to me very reassuring. I love it. Yeah. I'm very thankful that Biden is reaching out more to the right than the progress of the left. I think that's what he needs to do. I mean, and look, and there are a lot of people who are going to be conservative in their bones and that this will appeal to, if he wants, if he gets this next six electoral votes and he crosses the 270 line theoretically, how are you going to work with a GOP lead Senate? How are you going to work with Mitch McConnell? And that's
Starting point is 00:24:58 what you have to be, I mean, either you're going to get legislation done or you're not. He was witness to Obama not getting a lot of legislation done over an eight year period. Maybe he was doing a lot of ribbon cutting ceremonies at the time and his position is vice president, but he witnessed what it looks like to have a mostly lame duck presidency. So maybe he can appreciate the importance of crossing the out because he's going to have to figure it out. He's going to have to put centrist and conservatives in that cabinet or he's going to end up alienating the Senate. And you might as well be in gridlock for the next four years and accomplish exactly nothing.
Starting point is 00:25:31 If Biden goes too far left, just get ready for more, more, more partisanship that we've seen. Of course, since really George W. Bush left office or even Clinton, but when we're preparing last time, he has a very elegant way to resolve this issue. I don't know if we can play the, I don't know if we've got this cute up, but Bernie Sanders a few days ago, the day, but the day before the election, Bernie Sanders is, he's doing a Zoom call with the quad. With the squad. Squad. The four ladies. Yeah. Yeah, there he is. Yeah. And, you know, they look at him like a guy, by the way. All of us are working very hard to make that happen.
Starting point is 00:26:08 But we understand that electing Biden is not the end of all. It is the beginning. Okay. And I think as the result of the work that all of you have done, Biden's proposals in this campaign are much stronger than they were in the primary Alexandria. I was on the climate change task. What's the degree job? And his proposals are stronger. Do they go as far as we would want? No, they don't. Okay. Biden, unlike Trump, does not conceive of himself as a dictator. That means you have your job in the house. I've got my job with others in the
Starting point is 00:26:45 Senate. And we're not giving up on our agenda. For example, one area, you know, Biden wants to expand health care. That's good. Once the lower prescription drug costs, that's great. Once the double funding for community health centers, very important. But you know, in Imo, that at the end of the day, the only way that we're going to provide quality care to every man woman a child in an affordable way is through Medicare for all and we ain't given up on that struggle. Well, all right, we're going to introduce Medicare for all believe me. We are and we have because of all of your efforts. The effects of great dark beam nurses and others throughout the country. We got a majority of the people who support us. So thank you for that. Green New Deal.
Starting point is 00:27:28 We ain't giving up on that. We know my God. I mean, every day, we can... Positive, okay. The horrors are going on. Yeah, because he can go on and on and on. But you notice that that's a screen full of people in Congress, House of Representatives, senators.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I mean, look, Biden can come in on day one and say, I am my own man. I'm gonna be choosing my own cabinet. And there will be no members of the U.S. House of Congress who are going to be members of my cabinet moving on to the next thing. And you think he's gonna do that? I think it's, you know, Jamie Diamond wrote some very, Jamie Diamond alluded to that in some public
Starting point is 00:28:08 comments that he made recently. I bring up Jamie Diamond because he runs the largest bank in the country. And if you're going to have a successful administration, you might want to have the biggest banks on board with you. They might be more important. So again, if he crafts a cabinet that is more Reagan-esque and less left, then I think he will have a much easier task on his hands. Plus the fact that Nancy Pelosi has lost seats. Six of them. So the Democratic stronghold in the House is not as strong as it was. So there are three seats left, one seat went to the Democrats last night in the Senate.
Starting point is 00:28:50 So that was a bit of a surprise. So now you're down to three seats. It still looks like Republicans are going to retain control of the Senate. And that is a harder grasp than when you've got a house that can float either way because there's so many more moving people moving parts. But she has lost some control of that house. It's up to Joe Biden to choose a cabinet that can work with all of them. Will she stay the speaker Pelosi? Yes. That's not changing and McConnell and her are going to go at it. Well, they have been. But the element, basically nothing's changed. The element that has brought them together
Starting point is 00:29:25 traditionally has been Stephen Minuchin and That So let me ask you guys another question. Let me ask another question I'm by the way just so no all the value tanners. I see or a commentary and I'm gonna ask them right now to just kind of see What would they think how much of fraud do you think went into this election? How much fraud? You know, I think that there are there is a chance that there is some fraud that's gone on. Was it the fraud that got JF Kennedy, John F. Kennedy into office? No, I mean, you didn't have two entire states where there were numerous hundreds of thousands of dead people voting.
Starting point is 00:30:02 So yes, there might have been a tiny bit of fraud. I think and there's likely fraud in every single election. And they'll be fraud in the 2022 midterms. And that's just a part of life. But again, it was great weather, nationwide. You had the highest turnout. You had 66.9% turnout in this election. You have to go back to the year 1900. That's the last time we had this high
Starting point is 00:30:27 voter turnout. 1900 the presidential election. So, again, percentage wise turn out. percentage wise. Yes. What was the percentage? 73.2% turnout in 1966.9% turnout in 2020. 1666.9% turnout in 2020. And because again, I mean, whether is a, you know, if you've got a foot of snow on the ground in the Midwest, you're not going to have that many people voting. It was unusually. You brought up that it was a nice weather day. It was a nice weather day nationwide. And you had lots of people voting on election day as well. And when you listen to the states, whether it's the the attorney general
Starting point is 00:31:05 of Michigan or Wisconsin, they're like it was just a normal day. We had just a few snafu's here and there. You had polls open late in Atlanta. They compensate it by that for staying open in our late. So it was a very smooth, smoothly run election day. By the way, if you're watching this, and if you think there was voter fraud, press thumbs up, push thumbs up. If you think there wasn't any voter fraud to the point where it could influence the entire election, put thumbs down. So either thumbs up for yes, there was voter fraud thumbs down.
Starting point is 00:31:36 There wasn't. Did you see the project Veritas video yesterday would miss again? I did not. Okay. So do you know it came out very late. It came out like, I don't know what time it, but it came out late. Do you know how many views it got in the first seven hours on Twitter? Have you seen it?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Million views. How many views do you think got on Twitter? On Twitter, I don't know. A couple hundred thousand. Seven million views. I was going to say it now. Seven hours. Can you pull up the video?
Starting point is 00:31:58 I just want you to see what happens here. And you know, for me, I can tell the difference between an act and when you listen to the voice, you don't hear somebody that's acting Listen to this guy on how he speaks and who he is. That's two minutes. Go ahead. You work Your boss told you and your colleague something that shocked you this morning. What was it? You issued a Directive this morning to Like any balance we find and no boxes, coaxing boxes, just outgoing mail in general,
Starting point is 00:32:26 separate them up into the day, so they could hand stamp them with the previous day's date. Today is not by the force for clarification. Who is your boss? Adam, what is his title? Jonathan, the leader of Supervisorius. As of right now, he is the opening supervisor in the Bottle Grinch, post office.
Starting point is 00:32:44 So, I, and Mrs. Andrew, well, I'll carry that on the office, so they watch the postmaster doing it. So you know what they're saying? The word is difficult. They would be clueless doing it up at the distribution center. So 8 p.m. election day in November 3rd, the Court of Appeals ruled ballots have to be received by that time. And what were you told? That's something today so I can mark them
Starting point is 00:33:09 with yesterday and send them to the Express System to where they needed to go. This appears to be an attempt to circumvent Michigan law and allow late votes. And you said there was a hamper where letter carriers were supposed to leave their ballots. Where are the ballots now? They were putting them in their express bags.
Starting point is 00:33:26 They got all the distribution center. They were going to a half-ratherers standard hamper that all the other men were supposed to go to. They had a 12-nacks to head that were supposed to put any ballots collected today and to. What made you come forward? That's sketchy. That's sketchy, it screams corruption.
Starting point is 00:33:43 It doesn't sound like exact. This guy's voice is very shady. Yeah. There's your message to other postal workers who see things like this. Report it. What hours will staff any integrity in this country if we put this left thing slide based on what's what I've said to you. Are you afraid of retaliation against you? I can't lose a ball of policy.
Starting point is 00:34:05 You expect I'll leave the past. So yes. We'll have to reach out to Jonathan Clark for comment. Hey, is it Jonathan? Hey, I'm a reporter with Project Geritas, James O'Keefear. And I have information that you guys have been stamping ballots with the previous date November 3rd. He just had a 3rd. He just
Starting point is 00:34:25 hung up. He just hung up the phone on me. What's your reaction to that, Daniel? Um, I, this type of unsubstantiated the sources unknown could have come from anybody. Yeah, but why did it go hang up? Who's saying on the phone for that? No, I don't know you, but I'm about guy hang up? Who's saying on the phone for that? No, I don't know you, but I'm about to call you. Wait, wait, wait. And basically, I can't have how many crazies do you think have called that person all day long?
Starting point is 00:34:52 But here's a question for you. So both of you are saying this is nothing. That's not what I said. Is that what you're saying? I don't know, no, no, I'm not saying it's nothing. I'm saying it is potentially something that could be investigated. Yeah. And you should be investigated. something that could be investigated. Yeah. But.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And investigate it. And should be investigated. Fair. So investigate it. So we put the election on hold and we investigate this to see if there's anything to it before we announce the president. I agree.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I don't think the entire election is going on hold because that's mischievous. By the way, 120,000 ballots in Michigan were dropped and then Wisconsin that were Trump votes. Play the other thing on what happened in California here. Watch this one in California. I mean, you're seeing this stuff all over the place. And to me, make the video in a way.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Is there anything you can do to the video, Kaira? No. I want to show this video. See if you can change the video in a format. Man, you got to find a video and maybe copy paste it, but go ahead. You were going to say something. Just a couple different things. Obviously, there's people out there who are just fraudulent fraudulent fraudulent fraudulent fraudulent.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I'm not there. I'm not in the fraudulent fraudulent camp. You know what camp I'm in? What's that? I'm in the count it once, count it twice, count it three times, bring it to the Supreme Court. There's no chance I want Biden winning this election and having four years of, he stole it.
Starting point is 00:36:16 It's all illegal. I want it to be triple checked. I'm on the same page. Triple checked. I'm on the same page. And if it comes out that the vote calculations are totally off and totally lost you lost just man up. Yeah, there's no chance that I won't question years of more chaos in this country I just want to be triple check These are
Starting point is 00:36:39 Are there a ton in there? All right, are you collecting from a lot of places? By the way, this is in California. Yeah, this California. But it called in very early. California, I think California is slipping. But even with that. I'm not a fan of this.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Watch this. Just watch this. Are you guys official election guys? All right, and let me just ask you one thing. Where do you guys take them? Watch what happens when she gets close to the government building Okay Thank you, are there a lot more in there? What's with he said? Thank you. Are there a lot more in there?
Starting point is 00:37:24 Watch what he says. Keep up. Okay. It's six feet. Thank you guys. I just want to see because they called our state so quickly. I know. I am. You don't have a master here. Oh yeah. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Are they allowed to do that? Are they allowed to do that? So, so look. The people, the folks who are upset saying there's voter fraud, I want to look at history of voter fraud, just to kind of see what voter fraud happened last night in this morning, because I'm actually curious now for voter fraud, right? So, do you know how elections were up until 1804? Do you know how we chose presidents and vice
Starting point is 00:37:58 presidents up until 1804? You had tools in your shoot your opponent. Yeah, that was, that was actually not a bad setup, right? But do you actually know how they did it? Like, I didn't know I didn't know this. Daniel, did you know how they did it up until 1804? No, I wasn't around then. So, so when you and I ran, if you got two million, I got one million nine, you become the president. I become the vice president. Awesome. Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes. Pretty intense. I mean, you heard about it. You lose your number two. You lose your number two. It's a kid. First your life. Biden would become president. Let's just say in Trump will be
Starting point is 00:38:25 because. So Biden would have four more years of ribbon cutting. Yes. So that's the, but just think about that. That's how you imagine that. Back that I've by brain when my mind went there, though, thinking what if that actually was the case? I love it. Up until 1804. Now in 1803, there was something called cooping. Are you familiar with cooping?
Starting point is 00:38:44 I know about radden of cooping. You know, when you know what cooping, you familiar with cooping? I know about riding a cooping. You know what cooping was called. Here's what cooping was. Cooping back in the days, and this went till 1920 by the way, to stop, it went up until Al Capone. Cooping was, they would find people in the streets. They would pull you off. They would get you drunk, they would give you drugs,
Starting point is 00:39:00 they would disguise you to go vote multiple times for different people. That's what was called fake. It's called fake mustache. And by the way, crazy story. Edgar Allan Poe died outside of a voting poll on election day. And they say he was one of the folks that was used for cooping.
Starting point is 00:39:16 So this is his author. So now, so then, so then you continue, you continue up until 1890. Do you know up until 1890, how they did election? You had to publicly say you voted for. So you exactly, so you asked her question yesterday. You would go, so you be willing to tell her, say you voted for him.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Well, but up until 1890, you would say, I'm voting for Trump. I'm voting for Biden. And everybody would love it. No, up until 1890. Okay, so then they said, listen, this is a little too out of control, it's gonna piss people off. Nobody can keep it a secret.
Starting point is 00:39:49 So some people actually didn't want to come out and vote because they said, I'd rather not vote than tell people who I'm voting for. They said, we gotta change it. So then eventually around 1890 or so, they changed it to a secret ballot. And secret ballot was a system that they took from Australia. How Australia did it for the longest time.
Starting point is 00:40:07 So this led to the largest change because now you could go and it was specific rules and guidelines they put up. It was in an indoor space and public buildings run by government officials. There will be a single ballot to produce by states. The ballot would obtain, contain the names of the candidates with an option to also write in. The ballot will be completed in total privacy. That's what happened there.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Now, from that time, even with secret ballots, fraudsters still showed up because of impersonation at the polls, false registration, duplicate voting, fraudulent absentee votes, buying votes, illegal assistance at the polls, ineligible voting, altering vote count ballot petition fraud. And since 1980, there's been a thousand 71 instances of voter fraud. Even in, even in, when say that last part again, please, one thousand 71 instances of voter fraud since 1980. So in the last 40 years, which is a small number, there's a very small number, one thousand 71. By the way, the chances of
Starting point is 00:41:03 there being a voter fraud, I'll give you the percent. I'm not sure you're going to give you guys some content here. The chances of voter fraud is between 0.00404% up to 0.009%. So 0.004004, So point zero zero zero zero zero four two point zero zero zero nine. So essentially less than less than less than less than one percent less than less than less than one percent Yes, but there's been a thousand seventy one cases a voter fraud and I think the biggest concern people have right now Mm-hmm. Do you know how many votes Bush beat gore by and in two that do you know how many votes are like a couple thousand votes in Florida Maybe even a couple hundred something I don't think it was a couple thousand votes in Florida, maybe even a couple hundred. Something really serious. No, I don't think it was a couple hundred thousand. I think it was just a little. No, no, a couple hundred.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yeah, it was 539. Yeah, rejected. In a state that peaked. Florida, not 539,000 voters. 539 voters. Yeah. Okay. Voters.
Starting point is 00:41:57 But I saw. Right now, as of 99% of votes having been counted to that, because God knows it's going to be running around on my Twitter feed later on. As of 99% of votes having been counted to that, because God knows it's gonna be running around on my Twitter feed later on. Right now, Biden has a 241,000 count lead over Trump in the state of Michigan. Yeah. A quarter million almost.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yeah, so I'm. That's a massive lead. But by the way, Even if, even if, even if, Even if, even if, even if the whistleblower is correct and there was an instance, if you will, and he did his civic duty and rightly so and and blew the whistle. Even if that's the case, 241,000 is a plenty big margin, right? You have to do a recount automatically if your margin is in between 1%.
Starting point is 00:42:42 It's not. You could drive a golf cart through it. So it's you're right. It's not Wisconsin is, but Michigan is a different story. And Danielle, let me say one thing. Thank you for bringing that up because I actually found out how, you know, the total, the guy was like, armored the driver should or a burlough branch. You know, you know, the total population of Traverse City, 15,000 total population in
Starting point is 00:43:03 Traverse City, Michigan. I've been there. It's upstate Michigan. Yeah, but he's on the Barlow branch So meaning he's in one post office in a 15,000 person city So let's just say that there was some shady stuff. Let's say that guy was absolutely right shady as hell Maybe there's a couple hundred votes Maybe a couple thousand maybe you just said there's only been a thousand instances of voter fraud in 40 freaking years. So let's say that guy was sure to your throat.
Starting point is 00:43:29 What are we talking about? A couple hundred votes. You have to know that. I mean, you have to know there is a much bigger chance to do voter fraud with mail and ballots, much bigger chance to do voter fraud with mail and ballots. Of course, there. If you don't agree with that, you're naive yourself. There's a much to say, 160 million people voted. Biden got more votes than Obama.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Are you saying he's a better candidate than Obama? I mean, it's not even, Biden didn't even campaign. And he got more than Obama did. So the, the male and ballad's changed the game. So if you really go through the game So if you really go through the game, if you really go through the game, and if you go to a complete dark side, go complete dark for a quick second here.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Coronavirus hits, you shut down what a brilliant strategy to shut down and say we have to do mainland balance. We have to do mainland balance. We have to do mainland balance. We're going really dark here. If we do, I mean, if you, if they, Yeah, can I get a raise on some more?
Starting point is 00:44:27 Yeah, strategically, if you do great strategize, I have a great idea. Let's go to China. Let's eat some balance. A hundred and sixty. A hundred and sixty. Develop a pandemic that will get the mail in ballots, we'll get the voter fraud, we'll get the dude in Michigan,
Starting point is 00:44:41 we got this thing and we're going to win by like one percent. Yeah, you know, I had somebody on my Twitter feed still on Monday, We got the dude in Michigan, we got this thing, and we're gonna win by like one percent. Like what? I had somebody on my Twitter feed still on Monday saying, this is going away. This is going away on Wednesday. The coronavirus disappears. Oh nice. Vanishes.
Starting point is 00:44:56 And there are a lot of them out there. A lot of them out there. And so to that person, whoever you are, because you hide behind an avatar, because it's such a sign of strength. Picture didn't, he didn't have a picture of that. No, no, no, hiding behind something anonymous. You don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:45:11 As Drake likes to say, but yeah. Trigger fingers turned to Twitter fingers. And like everyone's tough on Twitter. That's all because people I know are on. My reply to him was in Italy too, like everywhere. Yesterday, Johns Hopkins reported that there were over,
Starting point is 00:45:26 there were more than 10,000 deaths worldwide from the coronavirus. We've never crossed that line ever worldwide. 10,000 deaths. You know what? Daniel, stop it. We are around the churn. Stop it, Daniel.
Starting point is 00:45:38 We are rounding the churn. I'm just saying, there's... We've already rounded it. If you, if you want to talk about what alienated a lot of people in this country and where he may have lost senior voters, senior voters, it was because he called the coronavirus a blessing. And it, Trump, Trump calling it a blessing to his evangelical religious base, many of
Starting point is 00:46:04 whom are older and have lost friends to the coronavirus might have been a step too far. Yeah, by the way, the US just set a record for 86,000 a day average corona cases. Yes, we had more than 100,000 cases here. We're up to 53,000 hospitalizations,izations were 11 percentage points off of peak hospitalizations and we've had fatalities in the United States north of 1100 for two days running. This does not appear. You think Biden's going to fix that? To be going around. It was interesting because because Biden can't fix it. Biden cannot fix it. It's not the way our government was designed originally.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Biden can come out and say there is a national mask mandate in theory. He cannot enforce it. Well, the states have to enforce it. That is up to the states. That is in the hands of the states. So as strong as he could theoretically be and as unifying as he could theoretically be to say, hey, this is not metaphor kids, winter cometh. And be a little safer, be a little more distance.
Starting point is 00:47:15 You think wiser, act wiser, he can say all he wants. It will still come down to the States. And unlike Europe, I doubt that we're going to have. So then how does it blame a COVID be on Trump, though? If you're saying, if you're saying Biden can't fix it, there's a big, you know, in media, everybody's saying, well, if I was this, I would have handled it a different way. If this person was, he would have handled it a different way. And I'm asking now, would Biden, Biden make it go where you're saying
Starting point is 00:47:42 Biden can't do anything? A lot of you are saying it's Trumpumps fall. So talk to hospital administrators. Yeah. And hospital administrators, I'm talking about in Tim Buck too, and right now rural areas are getting hurt by the coronavirus much worse than the big cities. But talk to hospital administrators. And they're like, all of this funding from the CARES Act, which was out months ago, all of the funding through the CDC to release this equipment was months and
Starting point is 00:48:05 months ago, we're still waiting. Send us the damn equipment. So there have been hold-ups, there have been, and you don't normally associate Trump with red tape. He's the actual opposite. He's the antithesis. He's the red tape cutter. Gets through regulations, all the BS. He's the red tape cutter, gets through regulations, all the BS, gets the, but there are things that he can do very quickly in terms of bolstering up hospitals that need equipment, just like that. And that would be a big relief. So then, so then how could Biden help? Like, do you think Biden's going to be better with coronavirus?
Starting point is 00:48:42 That, that, I'm talking about what Biden could do. He could actually listen to the medical community throughout the country saying, we need this, we need that, and actually deliver on it, as opposed to not deliver on it. Yeah, for me. They're still waiting.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I will tell you, if California, all of a sudden opens up in the next four to six weeks after Biden wins, and Disneyland opens up in the next four to six weeks after Biden wins. And Disneyland opens up very, very, you know, political tap of a move right there. All of a sudden they open up. Oh my gosh, Biden solved the problems. The moment he came in, everybody opened up. So now watch what's going to happen. You know what's going to be funny? If it flips and all Fox now talks about his COVID cases, can you imagine if it flips? That's what it's going to be really funny.
Starting point is 00:49:26 If that really takes place. But if all of a sudden they say, if they all of a sudden say, if they all of a sudden say, look how amazing he is, Biden came economy opened up. People are back working and they make them look at heroes. The reality is the most regulators and these governors that shut down their liberals. So if they open it up, they're going to make Biden look good. They can make him look real good. Let me add some of that.
Starting point is 00:49:48 By the way, you were looking for a little race sunshine Wall Street Journal reports. AstraZeneca, we've heard their name a bunch expects a vaccine this year by the end of the year. I think, you know, whether you're left or right or, you know, Martian for that matter, I think we would all like the vaccines. So that happened under a Trump's administration that's never happened under 18 months. So you got to give them a lot of credit. You like playing games, right?
Starting point is 00:50:09 Let's play again. Tell me. I'd like to know, I mean, Trump is 74 years old. Okay. Let's play again. Let's say he wins this election somehow. There's a, you know, less than 20% chance. Yeah. Let's say he wins this election somehow there's a you know less than 20% chance. Yeah. Let's say he loses. Yeah. You know what what's the famous line. Losers don't get to
Starting point is 00:50:34 write the history quote help me out here with quote winners write history. There's going to be a different narrative if Trump wins reelection wins eight years. There's a story behind it. You know if Trump wins reelection, wins eight years, there's a story behind it. You know, comes in and shakes the system up and rocks things. He's there for eight years, gets reelected. I mean, he can write that story. He does not get reelected.
Starting point is 00:50:54 What is his tombstone? His obituary sound like if he only wins four years versus eight years. What does that sound like to you? I think his, and this is a shame because of what he did in the beginning of his term, because of some of the funding that went into African American colleges, because of opportunity zones and other efforts that were made, because of him tearing back regulations, because he made it easier to do business in America.
Starting point is 00:51:28 And was kind of the architect of bringing the unemployment rate down to a 50 year low. A lot of that was Federal Reserve policy, a lot of it was, but it was also making it easier to do business in America, which at last checked, it should be easy. It's America. There should have never been all that red tape in the Obama years, period end. But I'm not so sure that history is going to give him that credit because of where the economy has headed now. And because the coronavirus has hit the minority working population so, so hard.
Starting point is 00:52:07 So it's going to remain to be seen. If we're entering a dark chapter in US history, then you could look to spiteful historians, especially. spiteful historians who feel like they've been marginalized in a Trump world. Think about your typical political pundit who's basically been, you know, in hibernation for the last four years inside the beltway. He hasn't needed people to tell him what to think, nor has he needed advisors to tell him what to say. He thinks it. He tweets it. I mean, there's really no stopping in between. But it is possible that he not gets the credit that he deserves for some of the things that he did accomplish for the US economy.
Starting point is 00:52:52 What do you think it sounds like? He only went four years versus eight years. Listen, let's just face it, this is one of the most competitive, if not the most competitive person we've had as a president, the history of America. It's extremely competitive. At least the last 50 years that we know of and all the other stuff, I don't disagree. Okay. He's extremely competitive, but I don't mind having a guy like that on my side. I just don't. I don't mind having a guy like that on my side.
Starting point is 00:53:15 He's going to hate it. He will be miserable. He will hate life. To a person like that, it'll be very, very hard for him. Publicly, he'll act fine, deep down inside. The guy cannot stand losing. He hates losing. When Michael lost, you felt the pain.
Starting point is 00:53:33 You know he hated it and you loved him for it because you loved how much it mattered to him that he lost. That's where he's at. He's gonna hate losing and I love that. I love the fact that it matters so much to a guy who's gonna hate losing. Is he gonna be the kind of a guy that's gonna come losing and I love that. I love the fact that it matters so much to a guy who's gonna hate losing Is he gonna be the kind of a guy that's gonna come out and say well, you know, we've lost You know, we lost and they won fair and square. I'm gonna say no. He's not gonna do that
Starting point is 00:53:54 He's gonna come out. He's gonna put a comment and say well, you know, it is what it is now What are they gonna write about his meaning like that's what how he I'm gonna say this to you if you give me a second So we've had we've had a That's what how he I'm gonna say this to you. If you give me a second. So we've had three one-term presidents in the last 50 years. 40 years, we had what? Ford, Carter, the senior, Pride, that was Hoover.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah, senior, of course, when he begins. But, you know, first of all, Ford, anomaly, you know, put him on a complete different side because of what happened, how he became a president, he didn't even win thelection for what, you know, Ford is Ford. So then you have a Carter who won the worst presidents,
Starting point is 00:54:31 we've had nicest guy, nice guy, sweet, hard guy, but a horrible president we had. Just, I'm in America because of Carter, just so you know that. There's no Carter, I'm still in Iran. I'm here in America because of Carter. I was about to say.
Starting point is 00:54:43 So, so bring Carter back into discussion. Continue. And then you have Bush senior, which honestly, Bush senior to me was more of a COO. He was never CEO. There's a difference between a COO and a COO. There's never a number one. No, he's not a number one. He's a guy behind closed doors.
Starting point is 00:54:58 That's a great project manager. Give him a project. He will lead it. He'll get it done. That was him. He was never the guy that's going to come out and inspire people. It's just you never saw him like that. And Ross Pro showed up from Texas.
Starting point is 00:55:09 He will be, Trump will be, will be loved, admired, adored by a lot of people on his side. Now, is he going away? That's the question. The question isn't really legacy, because legacy is going to have both sides. There's going to be sides that's going to comedians are going to love trashing them. Well, they're gonna do. They're gonna do. No, no, no, no, no, it's going to go to hold their blood.
Starting point is 00:55:29 You think it's going to get even on there? It's going to go to hold their front. I can't wait for SNL, his reaction, what they're going to, it's going to go to hold their front level if he loses. Comedians are going to rock the house saying, I told you so, they're going to crush a TV. The down lemons of the world, the Cuomo's of the world, world the Cooper's they're gonna be loving life the next four years however He's 74 in four years. He'll be Biden's age If there's anybody that's the kind of person that's gonna prepare the next four years to make a comeback and come and ruin these guys lives
Starting point is 00:55:58 If there's one guy that would do something like that. It's strong. Can he run again in four years? Yeah, yes, he can. can. Oh, he will. Okay, so he can. He can. He'll be running again. So you're answering my question. You're actually answering my question. Jimmy Carter.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Ranked presidents, living presidents who have brought more to their country, current living presidents. That have brought meaning to their country, current living president. That have brought meaning, like done good. Done good for their country in their lifetimes, living presidents. Clinton, that have done good, meaning they did a good time when there were four years, they did a good for the economy. After they left office. Including their time after office.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Oh, Carter's a non-profit charity guy involved active. Yeah, he just wasn't a good president. Foreign relations, even. Terrible president. Continuing to work outside of America on America's behalf. Betty Ford is the same if you put the Ford family they did as well. There's a lot. Yes, sure.
Starting point is 00:56:56 But Carter's legacy is pretty incredible. Not as a president. For how bad his presidency is. As a human being. And, okay, W. George W. He disappeared and has been what gracious even though he was he never undermined Obama. Obama's done his comparison to Obama now. He never undermined Obama. Even to Obama every day said I got a bad administration. He trashed Bush, but Bush never trashed Obama. Dignified. Big time. Big time
Starting point is 00:57:24 dignified. Yeah, I mean, I got his picture there in my office because I like the way he handled himself. But what he did as he disappeared, he didn't want the line like he gave it to Obama. Right. Sure. And his like, and his legacy now is there for Christine.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Sure. So I wouldn't say Christine. He went into the Iraq, he caused the Cheetah. He did. There were a lot of things. There were still people that don't like him. But who is, is, is, is, well regarded. We're talking about politics.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Right, but I'm not talking about what he did as president. I'm talking about legacy. Yeah. Four years from now, let's say Trump does not run. What does his legacy look like? Well, that's essentially that's what I was. To who? To the country as a whole.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I don't see that way. I think, I think forever, there is a playbook for future Trump's forever. Everybody who sees themselves as a Trump who's not a career politician who wants to one day run for office, whether they're a Democrat or Republican, Trump officially gave him the playbook. Oprah. Rock. Trump officially gave him the playbook. Trump officially game the playbook.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Trump gave him the playbook to say, Trump secretly has many people's hero, but they cannot say it publicly. Listen, many people voted for Trump. You know how you ask people and say, who'd you vote for? I'm not gonna say you voted for Trump. Cahuta, help with, say I'm not gonna say
Starting point is 00:58:37 if you voted for Biden. You like, for example, you know, remember, oh, right, rock it for one minute. Remember Megan Kelly, remember Megan Kelly, Megan Kelly years ago, she tried to play the car because she wanted to be Oprah.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I don't know if you guys remember she wanted to get like an Oprah contract. She couldn't get that. So making Kelly in 2016, she's got, she's passed a Bill O'Reilly, people are watching making Kelly more than they're watching Bill O'Reilly. Everybody's like, dude, I'm tuning into making Kelly. And then all of a sudden, making Kelly started playing the card of, I'm not really this. I'm not really that. I'm not really that. And she got that contract. And then she got the contract and she trashed Fox.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Where's Megan Kelly today? Where's Megan? If Megan Kelly would have stood ground and said, look, I have prompts with Fox. I don't like to stick, but I'm going to do this. And I'm going to stick to my positions. Megan Kelly would have ruled the world today. But what happened? There is this community. She went Hollywood on. making Kelly would rule the world today. I agree. But what happened? There is this community, there's this community that is afraid of where they're gonna be secretly millions of people admire Trump
Starting point is 00:59:34 and a lot of people are gonna use this guy's playbook. Dude, you gotta realize, I mean, you know how hard it is to not give credit to a guy that is entire career. He played business. He did everything he ever wanted. And then at the end of the day, he says, not give credit to a guy that is entire career. He played business. He did everything he ever wanted. And then at the end of the day, he says,
Starting point is 00:59:48 you know what, I'm gonna go freaking run for office at a 16 people. The only person that said this guy's gonna win it all was who, who was the only crazy psycho woman that said, oh, this guy's gonna win it. And Kolda and Bill Ross says, if it ends today, Trump's gonna say, what?
Starting point is 01:00:04 Are you out of your mind and a whole bottom made fun of everybody Robert down he I'm not Robert down to junior George Clooney everybody joked about this guy and he won against Hillary Clinton who's supposed to be Madam Secretary Queen of the world he beat Hillary Clinton. So there is a part that legacy wise this guy changed the game. Love him or hate him. He changed the game. Look, I don't have to like LeBron,
Starting point is 01:00:29 to know he changed the game. I don't have to like somebody to say a person change the game. Trump absolutely changed the game. Win or lose. But I'm gonna tell you, listen, Adam, there are certain people when they make millions, they disappear.
Starting point is 01:00:41 There are certain people in the game of basketball, they win one championship, they disappear. There are certain people, they get a nice corporate job, they disappear. There are certain people in the game of basketball, they win one championship, they disappear. There are certain people, they get a nice corporate job, they disappear. There's certain people that you used to lose to, they get this much of a victory, they disappear. This is not that guy. Just so you know this, this is not that guy. And not only is he not going to disappear, so people say, whoa, he's going to disappear when he dies. Absolutely not even when he dies, whatever if he dies. The Trump spirit is gonna be in so many younger, if he loses, I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen if he loses.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Say he loses, say he loses. Brother, Daniel, if this guy loses, you officially have a group of tens of thousands, not millions, because it's not true believers. Tens of thousands of true believers that are not going to forget this. Tens of thousands of true believers that are not going to forget this. And we're going to see what they're going to be doing the next two, four, six, eight, 10, 20 years.
Starting point is 01:01:39 So he parlaes this into, I mean, the running theory of the conventional wisdom is that he parlaes this into his own network, that he unseats Fox News. He could easily do that. He becomes the next repartment, huh? He could easily do that. But I don't know, I don't know if he is going to be sad to sub with just that because you know when you've reached a mountain top of a certain business, you're just kind of like
Starting point is 01:02:01 annoyed by it and you go and you start negotiating with other dignitaries and presidents and prime ministers. You really want to go back to negotiating with other presidents of sales of companies, your board, you're like, dude, I played this game already. Who the hell wants to go and basketball? I want to see it when you're playing at college level. When you're in the NBA, who wants to go play against college, love and be college? So where can he go? Where can he go? It's to be bigger. Here's where he can go. Phenomenal question. Here's where he can go. Where he can go question. Here's where he can go. Where he can go is what Republicans haven't been doing.
Starting point is 01:02:28 I'm in Chicago at the Ritz Carlton, few years ago, before Trump, so put it 14, 15. I'm at the Ritz and there's 2,000 African-American men and women in their 18, 19, 2021. Sharp all look ridiculous. Like I'm talking beautiful, three-piece suit. The ladies wear nice dresses like the ones you put together. Everybody's looking money, right?
Starting point is 01:02:55 And I'm like, what are you guys doing here? With a future democratic lawyers of the African-American community? I said, what's this all about? He says, well, we're a private organization, we come together. Who's your hero, Barack Obama? What do you guys want to be?
Starting point is 01:03:09 We're all running for one day, maybe we'll be president. And let me tell you, it was so flipping impressive. I'm like, dang, this is impressive. So he's breeding the next Obama. It's good for you. If Trump really loves America, if he really loves America,
Starting point is 01:03:26 okay, which, but people who believe and believe that this guy really loves America. And the foundation America was founded on, he wants to protect that. If he does, the next thing he's got to do is figure out more the university route, the more the education route, the more the rally and the next troops route duplicating himself right. It's not through corporation. It's about, I'm going to bring two, three, four thousand young cats, and I'm going to get this mindset in their brain over and over and over and over and over and over again for this spirit to last for the next 50, 60 hundred years. You saying that direction that he should go? I don't think the media is going to be a
Starting point is 01:04:03 small play for him. Listen, I'm not saying he can't do it. I think he could do it. But I think he's got, you know, two kids that could one day run for office. He's got a son-in-law that could run for office. He's got a son that's 14 years old that's one day going to be the center of whatever, but he could run for office. He could run for office. And then his great kids, listen, what happened to Ken and his?
Starting point is 01:04:23 Like it's beyond your saying. Now these guys are not going to go away they're not going to go away well you know i mean the Hoover Institute it's it's tamper very conservative uh organization has been speaking out vociferously saying that the liberal university system in america is killing uh free speech in the first amendment and you know what Patrick i think that there is an appetite to bring balance back into higher education in America such that it's not such a one-leaning way of thinking. And parents, I've got kids who will be going to university in a few years.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I completely applaud that. I have, why pay all this money in tuition to send your child off to be brainwashed in one way. Theoretically higher learning should teach them how to think for themselves and not be brainwashed. So if something like that, I think, has tremendous appetite in the United States. I agree. So I'm thinking it's more university than I'm thinking it's about. But what you're describing is a little bit more dignified than what I would expect from Trump. So good for him if he's going to raise the bar for himself
Starting point is 01:05:31 to start influencing the next generation of conservative thinkers in America. We need that. No, you won't give me or give me. He's not a conservative thinker. That's not his brand. He will, he will look, listen, capitalism, Marxism, right? Marxism is behind whose name?
Starting point is 01:05:48 A person's name, it's Karl Marx, Marxism. Trump is not about, I'm a conservative Republican. Trump would much like, rather have a Trumpism. Yet, Trumpism, he is about that, right? So he's not, it has to be branded around his name. But populism, isn't it? Isn't it like bravado, rationalist? I'm not stating here, populism. I don't understand Isn't it like bravado, rationalist, populist?
Starting point is 01:06:05 I don't understand this guy who he is. I understand who Trump is. I've been in business with people like Trump and you don't mind having a guy like that on your camp. You don't mind having a guy like that on your camp. No, if you're going to do it business, hell no. You don't mind having a guy. Send me up.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Not only business, you would have loved a Democratic Trump. Let me tell you, Democrats would have loved a Trump that's a Democrat. Give me a Democrat who, that's true. Who would be you? You guys are very a Democrat give me a Democrat who that's true who would be you guys are very quick to jump to conclusion if that guy was wearing your color jersey you love him he's your guy. Give me a big time out right here because I support the person. So what did I get for supporting the person when I was when I when I lived
Starting point is 01:06:42 in New York City. What did I get for supporting the person? Because was when i when i lived in new york city what did i get for supporting the person because here comes hillary clinton running for the senate in the state of new york and i'm like i don't get that not a state ununderstand i i don't understand i was raised so there i go i go register i go register to vote change my driver's license in the city of new york i go completely knowing completely i'm wasting my vote voting for this guy, Rick Lausier, who nobody's heard of anymore. In New York?
Starting point is 01:07:09 In New York. So, you know, I'd been living in New York for seven years. The one thing New Yorkers kept saying is Danielle, don't get rid of your Texas driver's license. Don't ever, ever get a New York driver's license. Don't ever vote in the state of New York. You will get jury duty so fast your head's been within two weeks. What do I get jury duty?
Starting point is 01:07:27 But I didn't know who Rick Lausier was, but I did know that Hillary Clinton had no business being in the state of New York. It wasn't her state. So in order to vote against her, I went out and did my civic duty and registered as a Republican in the state of New York and went and voted for this Rick person just to make my statement to Hillary. So don't don't ever pigeonhole me. You never know. Pitch and hole you with what? With which part? If you just said if Trump said to him, I'm saying to him, no, I don't put you as a, no, I don't think he was going there. I'm not going out. You at all. No, I know you. He wasn't going there. I'm going at him. I'm not going out. You
Starting point is 01:08:02 what I'm saying is, I think Trump would have made it much better Democrat. What I'm going at him. I'm not going at you. What I'm saying is, I think Trump would have become a liar and go much better Democrat. What I'm saying is, it's not about whether he would have made a better Democrat or Republican. All I'm saying is, if Democrats had a Trump, they would adore him. Who's the Democratic Trump? Let's say Biden wins cool. He doesn't want to run for reelection, but Democrats say, you know what? Cuomo, who you thinking is a Democratic Trump? Are you asking?
Starting point is 01:08:27 Yeah, I'm asking you. Who's the Democratic Trump? Well, you're not going to have many Democratic Trumps. But Bloomberg is not a Democratic Trump, is he? Bloomberg couldn't. Cuomo is not a Democratic Trump because he has the only person that could be a Democratic Trump, the only person. And he's not as much of a true believer as Trump is.
Starting point is 01:08:44 The only person that could is a Cuban, the only person. Mark Cuban. He could. Cuban could be a democratic Trump. What about like, like, Samu? I don't know how diplomatic is the rock. Hey, brother, let me tell you. No, no, no, no, he's very diplomatic. When it comes to politics, diplomatic, how diplomatic is Cuban? Now, he's pretty brash. He's not exactly What I'm trying to say, and he's a billionaire, and he's a spo, and he's a TV guy, and he's a shark tanker. The closest thing. You're taking the personality.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah, not just a big personality, a person that's willing to go to war and likes the heat. Okay, but he likes the heat. But go back to your point, go back to your point because it's really important that we shape, not that we shape the thinking, but that we teach, that we teach college aged that we shape the thinking, but that we teach that we teach college age kids how to think for themselves. So I don't care, I don't care what Trump is,
Starting point is 01:09:32 is, is if it's Trumpism that he's selling or conservatism, that doesn't matter. What we need in our university system is to get to get away from and to escape free of unilateral thinking. It can't just be left, left, left, liberal, liberal in all of our universities and colleges because it's just a gigantic waste of money. Let me tell you why, respect Trump. I know this is the angle we were going. We go. Here we go. Here's our respect Trump. We asked about the obituary and legacy. What have you? It's pretty clear that Biden has a very, very, very likely path to 270, right? Think about who Biden was running against.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Biden was running against Trump. Period. It's full stop. Who was Trump running against? Three major things. Well, he was running against Biden in the DNC. There's one. He's running against COVID, a freaking pandemic. And the third thing is he's running against
Starting point is 01:10:26 the media. So Trump is going against three very powerful entities. And the pollsters. pollsters, you might say, um, and almost pulled it off. And, and according to him, did pull it off. So Trump's a fighter. He's brash. No doubt. There's high likelihood. It'll be back in 2024 just because I can see him getting super salty and just getting pumped up and getting riled up. And like what he's saying in the last debate, I ran because of you, Joe Biden. So he's going to look at what Joe Biden potentially does over the next four years and regroup. If not, we'll see where the Republican party goes. Let me tell you. He's just
Starting point is 01:11:09 going to have to lay off the big message. He will not. He will. Let me tell you what's going to happen. What Obama did. You know what Obama did? Tell me. The fact that Obama didn't stop trash and Trump after Trump got elected and do what Bush did to him. Trump is gonna do to Obama a million times more Trump to Obama and Biden both of him. He's gonna go at their throats nonstop for four years. It's gonna be at levels you've never seen before. But Obama can just say one thing that Trump will Obama will be like I was here for eight buddy. You were here for four, have a nice day. You don't think Trump's going to like get so heated just hearing that. I'm double as good as you, buddy. But he's
Starting point is 01:11:53 better. He's a better spectator. Who's a better spectator? I think they're both good. If you want to go down and dirty, Trump, if you want to go high and classy and well, worded Obama, okay. Okay. What I'm saying to you. What happens when he's being offered a million dollars every time he stands in front of a podium? What about he takes it? What's your point though? You mean it's gonna... You don't think he'll, you don't think there's any way that he'll take the former president
Starting point is 01:12:17 dignified route. No. I don't know. No. No, because you're not paying him a million bucks to give that talk. The key word there was dignified, Danielle. I don't know. You're paying them a million bucks to give that talk. The key word there was dignified, Daniel. You know what I'm saying? You're not, you're not giving the million dollars to give that speech. If you want that speech, you give it to somebody else, not to him.
Starting point is 01:12:32 You're giving them the million dollars to come up and talk trash. You're, you're best at bringing them to my WWE. You're giving them the money for that, but it's about to be gangbusters. And he loses brother. There are certain people shouldn't lose. There's certain opponents, you don't want them to lose publicly. You just don't. There's some people, you do not want a tiger and MJ, you don't want certain competitors to lose. What do you mean you don't want them to lose? What does that mean? If you're their opponent,
Starting point is 01:13:02 you don't want to beat them and he'll tell you a lot of there's 70 plus million people that would love to see him lose. No, not the voters, not the voters, the opponents, the opponents, not the voters. I still think that they want him to lose. I don't disagree with you. But on disagree, here's what I don't think Biden is going to do. I don't think Biden is going to go out Trump's throat. I don't think Biden has going to go out Trump's throat. I don't think Biden has it in his DNA to be I think come all the will. I think come all the will. Yeah, I don't think Biden will. I don't think Biden will. I think come all will. I think Biden will have an opportunity to potentially at some point pardon Trump.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Pardon Trump. I think that's a we go with that Danielle. Yeah, exactly. So there are there are hundreds of thousands of dollars of debts that become due that are presumably in a holding pattern as long as he's still present. Well, I mean, his taxes are still under audit. No, no, I'm not talking about his taxes. She's not talking taxes. She's talking about other things. But listen, to to say pardon, you have to have things to pardon, you know, it's that's a technical question you're asking. Then you know, answer your question. What are you going to stop beating your wife, you know, type of a thing that's a technical question you're asking. And then you know, answer your question. What are you gonna stop beating your wife, you know, type of a thing that's automatically putting the guy
Starting point is 01:14:08 as beating his wife. So I get what you did right there, but all I'm saying to you is this guy is not a guy you want to lose. And we're all gonna see how he's gonna lose. If he is who I think he really is, shits about to go down. Here's another question, games, games for playing games. 2024, who is a more likely to win the presidency, more likely, or be the candidate?
Starting point is 01:14:33 Yeah, like Lance. Don Jr. Who do you got? Oh, she's going to be Pence. Well, I, I, I serve presidential. I'm just, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I win a presidential election, Don Jr. or Mike Pence, 2024. Oh gosh, Mike Pence by a country mile. You think so? We go. To do what?
Starting point is 01:15:12 To run to win. To win, to win, to win. If one of those two people win. I agree with Daniel, because the next two years is gonna say a lot. We're gonna learn a lot about the next two years. Lots of weird things are going on with America and the world right now.
Starting point is 01:15:24 You got a lot of things that have been on the sidelines. We haven't dealt with what's going to happen with China, with the sanctions on China, sanctions on Iran, Venezuela still on the table, Brexit is still going on, COVID is still going on, Russia is still going on, Armenia is going on, Iran is going on, Turkey is going on, do you know how many things are going on? So the next, there's going to be things going on, not a stop. But I'm, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no midterms? We're not even fast the election yet. Well, let me ask you. Let me ask you. Let's talk to the entrepreneurs, Daniel.
Starting point is 01:16:08 I think this is somewhere where you can help the entrepreneurs and the folks that are making over $400,000. And the people that are job creators and the people that are running businesses. Biden's tax plan. You are assuming that he's gonna get these taxes past midterms. That's exactly what I'm asking you.
Starting point is 01:16:23 So what I'm asking you is to the people that are listening saying 21 to 28 corporate, 20 to 39 six capital gains, the additional 12.3 on social security, will that pass in 2021? No. When will that pass? When?
Starting point is 01:16:37 I mean, look, it's going to depend on how bad the economy gets. And what Mitch McConnell's about to do could be a big mistake. So he's going to insist on a really small stimulus package because he right now is running a victory lap. For schools, hospitals and small business. You name it. So he right now is we held the line. We were fiscally conservative coming into the selection. We held the Senate.
Starting point is 01:17:08 We were rewarded for being typical true conservative Republicans. So, but unfortunately, the economy really could care less about that because of the depth of permanent joblessness that we're seeing. I mean, we've got this morning we had new data out. You know, we've got 2.3 million people who've lost their jobs, permanently lost their jobs. Layoff announcements continue to come. All of a sudden corporate America's woken up Nike corporations like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:17:42 We had all these middle managers. Let's cut them out. There goes 700 people in Beaverton, Oregon yesterday in Austin, Texas, a big tech company. It was like, you know what, we've got too many middle managers off goes 650. So there are underlying economic impediments to fiscally conservative paths that Mitch McConnell might try and hold the line on. But I do think when it comes to taxes, good luck. Meaning they're not changing.
Starting point is 01:18:11 The compromise that you would potentially contemplate, I think it will be very easy. Again, if Biden stays centrist, I think you'll maintain that low and competitive. Thank you very much. Corporate tax rate. And I just, I, again, Nancy Pelosi does not have the same stronghold on the House of Representatives that she did before this election. So I think something like a capital gains tax is going to be really, really difficult. Again, as you're seeing white collar layoffs, people making $400,000 a year and losing their jobs.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Stimulus will never touch them, but they can do damage to the economy. So what is and is not done in Congress, I just published 4,500 words about infrastructure spending in America. If they're smart and they do something immediately that creates jobs, new jobs, create jobs. You've got construction workers, construction projects being canceled, left right in between, Houston's the worst city in America right now. By the way, Dallas is the best. We're growing the fastest. I think you are smart about infrastructure spending.
Starting point is 01:19:21 And if I'm Mitch McConnell and Biden says, I want a $1 trillion. I want a half trillion dollars for all the band-aids and all the social programs that need immediate assistance. But if I'm McConnell, I'm saying, I want a half trillion dollars for infrastructure spending immediately so that the Republicans can start to say that they passed smart stimulus that put people back to work. And because it's all going to come out in the wash because it looks like it looks like
Starting point is 01:19:49 the Republican lead lead in the Senate. It is also going to be skinnier after that Democratic seat flipped overnight. Real quick, Danielle, I see Fox News is reporting that Biden is at 264. It's been that way for 24 hours. That means you say today, you're sitting today and Fox is saying 264 that he won air zone. He's basically saying he won that. That means you say today you're saying today in Fox is saying 264 that he won a reason basically saying he won Arizona. He won a lot of one more state. Nevada. All he never knows. Just Nevada. Yeah, just Nevada. Nevada is a difference of 8,000, right? Is that the number? But you know what?
Starting point is 01:20:15 You know what? Our good friend Kai over there brought up a really good point. And I'm not going to say who he voted for. But what he did say was that he hopes that if Biden wins, if Biden wins, he wins by more than 270, meaning he wants him to get that 300. He doesn't want it to be like razor thin for the country, meaning he wants him to win Pennsylvania. Georgia is just so it's not a freaking question. Again, Pennsylvania. So for all the fraudulent people out there, it's a fraud.
Starting point is 01:20:40 It's a, it's a, that you said there's been a thousand cases of voter fraud in the last 40 years. So for all our conspiracy theorists out there, I hope you're listening. Right. But there, there's a bigger issue than voter fraud if he gets Pennsylvania. And right now, again, Pennsylvania, Vegas is saying 85% probability that he's going to get Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is the one place where having another Supreme Court justice in his corner, could, before the election, see, Pennsylvania changed the law to say that they could, they could count ballots for longer than they used to. That's different. In some states, you had to count them on that day and report them, and that was it.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Well, Salé Valley. Yeah. But, but there's one place that trump could take that because three one two three supreme court justice is said you know what this could be a violation of the constitution what the state of pennsylvania is doing we could revisit this yes i saw that and that was that's three supreme court justice is but now there's a fourth so in theory though then you would still have a hung court you would still have four to four. When do you think we're going to know for a fact that the transition from Trump to Biden if Biden were to win? How soon do you think that could happen?
Starting point is 01:21:54 I think that if he wins Nevada and Arizona is validated elsewhere, I think he's in. Because that extra 16 in Pennsylvania, it won't make a difference. If other people call Arizona and he gets Nevada, well, does this have any merit here? I mean, this is according to our researcher. There are laws in every state that grant local officials days or even weeks. Deadlines vary from state to state to canvas and certify election results. Here's the date states technically have until December 8th, which is known as safe harbor as a deadline to fully certify results. There's nothing that says everything has to be in on Tuesday, November
Starting point is 01:22:36 3rd. The deadline quote unquote safe harbor is December 8th. What does that factor? But again, I don't think that most people calling states are calling states unless they feel that they have a comfortable margin. How familiar are you with the 14th amendment? Oh gosh. The 14th amendment allows the president to strip electoral college votes from state supporting censorship against voters enables mass arrests of mayors governors and judges who support BLM DC DC, dirty laundry. So that's one thing that's coming out in article six, section three of US constitution, when a state fails to hold free and fair elections, then the Republican form of government, that state has been compromised and
Starting point is 01:23:14 afraid or manipulating a federal act, election is a conspiracy against the constitution and people executive authority, which is a person in the United States has been charged with a fateful execution of all laws, pursued to the constitution and also the constitution itself that is camps because it's critical. So, there's, because that's the angle that Giuliani wants to take right now. I don't know if you saw Giuliani's talk yesterday. But that's the fraud angle. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:39 If they go to fraud angle, but you have to know that he has a Supreme Court, if he takes that angle, if he takes that angle, because there is a ju- did you, did you hear Julianna speech yesterday? I did, but- Did you hear Julianna speech yesterday? He was, he was, live it. And you know Trump's a litigious guy. I don't think we're going to find out the transition is going to be very soon.
Starting point is 01:24:00 I think it's going to take some time. I don't think it's going to be as quickly as- But again, January 20th. It's, Giuliani can jump up and down. That's when he has a leave office. That's when the new president is sworn in. Is that what it is? 21st is inauguration.
Starting point is 01:24:10 I'm not sure. January 20th. Yeah. But Giuliani can be as live it as he can. The court has discretion on whether or not to hear anything. When is Giuliani not ever living it? What the court has said it would reconsider does not have to do with what Giuliani is bringing up. It has to do with the fact that the Pennsylvania, the state of Pennsylvania, changed the law to
Starting point is 01:24:30 allow for the counting of the votes for three days after the election. That's what the Supreme Court is is willing. They've they've three justices have said that they're open to revisiting that every other fraud type of case that has come before the Supreme Court has been, has been, has been, has been, no, that has, that has nothing to do with the Supreme Court. That has to do with the Supreme Court. No, no, no, no, no, I agree. I agree. What I'm saying is the Supreme Court has, has pushed every other case, especially those related to fraud, they've pushed them out and said, no,
Starting point is 01:25:04 we're not hearing the case. So the only one that I know of that, that the Supreme Court will hear and has said publicly, we would consider this has to do nothing with fraud. Yeah. So, and, and, and the, the challenges, if they go, because you know, back in 2020, they just went one state forwarded, because they didn't want to say this state because you negotiated it this way that applies to this state so they're just they're suggesting going multiple states may not help Trump.
Starting point is 01:25:34 But if it's close he goes one state he can flip it. Yes. But if it's two, three, four states they may hurt them and backfire on them. So it'd be interesting to see what happens. By the way, a few different things business wisewise, you're watching how people are reacting, how the market react. The Bezos sell enough $3 billion of shares of Amazon. You're seeing some of those things.
Starting point is 01:25:50 What do you notice? And you said Nike let them go of some middle management. How was the economy going to respond to a Biden economy? How's the market going to respond to Biden economy? Well, the market's up big today and it was up big yesterday. It was, yeah. So like, meaning they think that Biden's winning and it has not slowed down the market.
Starting point is 01:26:06 I think they like the Senate being gridlocked and they're like that. Yes. The market is buying taxes are not changing is what they're saying. There we go. Yeah. You had the largest one day decrease in the nation's borrowing costs since February I want to say. So that was the borrowing cost of the nation, bond yields were very elevated, elevated,
Starting point is 01:26:27 elevated coming in because of the potential for a blue wave and some massive multi-trillion dollar stimulus package being signed into law by Valentine's Day. That was the concern. So you're seeing the market price back in gridlock and a much lesser degree of stimulus. That's not going to affect how corporate America behaves with regards to its workforce at all. How corporate America is going to behave with regard to its workforce is has only to do with the coronavirus right now. And how everything is up today and how that affects consumption. Dow S&P NASDAQ, the Russell 2000, bitcoins up,
Starting point is 01:27:06 golds up, Disney's up, apples up, Facebook's up, Google's up, Tesla's up. Which is actually Norwegian cruise lines, which hasn't been up in like nine months. And they just, they just made it. Most important one obviously. And they just get on cruise. I feel like those guys right now, right now, you've got a lot
Starting point is 01:27:23 of positioning in markets. There's a lot of noise in the markets right now. I think wait until get on those guys. Right now, right now you've got a lot of positioning in markets. There's a lot of noise in the markets right now. I think, wait until we have a decided collection and check back. I got three other things before we wrap up. I got a flight to get to, and everybody's texting me. I know I got a flight. I fully get it. I'm going to go 10 more minutes, and I'm going to try to make my flight.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Okay. So, one is Uber, good news, California prop 22, winning and inside of an independent contractor. So means Uber and Lyft drivers will stay as independent contractors in the state of California. That's very, very easy. Please talk about that Pat. Why you feel so...
Starting point is 01:27:55 Oh, we've been talking about it for a while. Give us your thoughts on why you're happy that it went that far. I'm very happy because that just means that the model of being an independent contractor is not gonna be threatened in the state of California for other people. I think Byron you dealt when he was sitting right in Daniels chair. He talked about if you do that, you're going to have to do that to eBay independent contractors.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Everybody's you have to turn them to W two and it's a phenomenal thing. It's great for the state of California. It's great for the state of California. The other thing is minimum wage in the state of Florida went to $15 by 2026. Right. And that, to be honest with you, it's a little concerning to say, hey, we're going straight to $15 by 2026. What do you think about that? Look, it's barely going to keep up with the cost of living investments.
Starting point is 01:28:35 And we were speaking about this yesterday, the major US corporations, whether you're talking about Walmart or McDonald's, they've already moved, they've already crossed that line in order to retain it and keep good employees. So because it's a graduate at already moved, they've already crossed that line in order to retain and keep good employees. So because it's a graduate at stair step, I'm not too terribly concerned about it. You know, I would be a lot more concerned. Had we had a blue wave, and there was discussions of a federal minimum wage being implemented, you know, and- Which eventually would get-
Starting point is 01:29:01 In the next one or two years. I think that one state after another, we will see it. We saw 19 states come in a few years and we're all at once. So I think we're on our way. I think Floridians did this in a decisive way, such that it, again, it's just a dollar a year to become competitive with your local Walmart.
Starting point is 01:29:20 I, and by the way, to be honest with you, like here when I said one my accountants every time, I think we have one employee with us that makes less than 15 bucks, okay? I think one, to be honest with you, like here when I sit with my accountant every time, I think we have one employee with us that makes less than 15 bucks. Okay, I think one, it's like 1350, one of our employees. And you know the minimum wage in Texas is 725, it's like so, I mean, how the hell do you live off of seven bucks?
Starting point is 01:29:36 You don't. And you don't, right? You have to be a 16 year old kid to be able to live off of that. But I think the federal part, if they do that across the country, that hurts place like Arkansas, that hurts South Dakota. I mean, you can't do 15 out of everywhere. There are small businesses are going to take a Florida. Okay. I can see 20, 20.
Starting point is 01:29:52 You did an awesome, awesome how to episode of the board about having a minimum wage. Yeah. Just a living wage. Yeah. What's your biggest takeaway with that? Exactly what I just said, you can't do it across the board. You heard it now. If the federal minimal wage, what is the federal minimum wage? Is it $7.25? I think it is $7.25. If they raise federal minimum wage in the next two to four years
Starting point is 01:30:12 to eight bucks, nine bucks, okay, whatever. If they do federal to 15, you're not gonna feel it. We're not gonna feel it, but I will tell you, millions, oh buddy, they're gonna feel it. And all it's gonna do if they do that, Walmart and South Dakota wins. Okay. They target an Arkansas wins. The small Johnny's little market that's been around for 73 years goes out of business. The big dogs can afford it. They don't understand that increasing the federal minimum wage
Starting point is 01:30:39 you're putting small business owners out of business. It's not as sexy as it sounds. Doesn't affect California. Doesn't affect Florida. Doesn't affect California, doesn't affect Florida, doesn't affect Illinois, doesn't affect New York, but it does affect the rest of the city. You know, what's interesting is the opposite trend right now. So if you're a Silicon Valley worker and you've been working in that most expensive area of the world around San Francisco, San Jose,
Starting point is 01:30:59 and you decide to go relocate somewhere because you work at a company that said you can work from home indefinitely. Silicon Valley is decreasing your salary right now, depending on where you've moved to. So it's interesting that that's how California companies are behaving. So they get the whole,
Starting point is 01:31:16 it's a different cost of living, depending on where you live part. But do you think California will see a Republican governor anytime soon or now? Oh gosh. I mean, it's gonna melt off into the ocean at some point with those finances. So that's a no, I would assume. I would think that would be a no.
Starting point is 01:31:31 What about that post you did on Instagram with those entrepreneurs that came up with the drone? It's phenomenal. Let me do the last one here before we wrap up. Let me do the last one before wrap up. So I have one. You are a pectoral laughing. before wrap up. So I have one. It's actually not a God should type of a thing. I'm just wondering like, you know, Joe Biden gives a speech. Okay. And you have to know that a lot
Starting point is 01:31:56 of people who for the longest time have been in politics are sitting there saying, this freaking guy is going to be the 46 president. I'm better than him. I cannot believe this guy's going to be the president. One person in America. I'm wondering how you think she's doing Hillary Clinton. How do you think she's doing knowing a Joe Biden? She has to call him president. She's even saltier. Are you kidding me? Are you? Wait, let me get this straight. So you think, I think Kamala's a VP, Kamala be Hillary Clinton, you have to realize it's
Starting point is 01:32:30 like to her, it's like that cannot happen. I'm more qualified. How does Hillary do it right now? Yeah, but there's expletives in between. She's the most notorious sailor potty mouth in the world. No joke, yeah. She's probably angered today than she was four years ago. How do you think she's feeling?
Starting point is 01:32:45 I think there's part of her that's saying still like, I really like dude, like I was so qualified, I was so prepared, you know, but I think she comes to terms and people didn't like me all that much. She corrected her own DNC. You know that she's got to feel good if Trump loses. She's got to get, she's going to have the last laugh. Like we talked about it at the top of the show. Democrats came together whether whether you believe that or not. Because Trump's going to say, dude, I became a talked about it at the top of the show, Democrats came together whether whether
Starting point is 01:33:05 you believe that her Trump's going to say, dude, I became a president. You didn't. What are you talking about? That ends as well. She'll say, well, my husband was there eight years, my, uh, yeah, but I was checking her state for Obama for a year. She's way better than me. I'm sorry, but where on earth do you think her ego fits into citing her husband?
Starting point is 01:33:20 I mean, she's got four years to, you really can't. You know, they were both wrote scholars. Okay, she's smart. Let's flip. Sweetheart. Okay, let's flip it. Let's flip it. Who did Hillary vote for?
Starting point is 01:33:35 What do you mean who the Hillary? Of course. She voted for a Biden. What's your point? What did she want to do? She was qualified for what's your point? She wanted to win. One of those buttons you pray.
Starting point is 01:33:43 You just said, Preston. What's your point? You think she's like, what's your powder nose and won't even have one of those buttons you pray. You just said, press this. What's your point? You think she'll tell their nose and vote if her body knows. She get it. She went to the, she voted. She's filling her mail in the libertarian camp. And her ex-ender, Joseph, just gave 10 bucks saying they found nine states were voter
Starting point is 01:33:57 fraud and they found these states have more votes than registered voters. So look, I don't think it's over the 15. By the way, can you double check to see what Vegas has a change at all? Is still a 15%? Still at 15%. Still at 15% Trump having a chance to win. Let's see. Did you check it? Yeah, I just checked it. You just checked the right now. So in the last 90 minutes, it has not changed. The chances of Trump winning according to Vegas odds is 15% to defeat Trump remain steady and they are currently 84.9%, 85% to 15%, that's the number. 85 to 15%.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Last night it was 90%. So it has increased. To put it to put in perspective, we know that Trump barely sleeps when he went to bed. What a perspective, you know, we know that Trump barely sleeps when he went to bed. When Trump went to bed, this would have been Tuesday night, he was 75% chance likely to win. And he woke up and he was 25% chance likely to win. Talk about a shitty night's sleep.
Starting point is 01:35:01 But that, that move overnight from 1015, 10%, 10% to 15%. That is lingering Arizona uncertainty. Listen, if you're watching this, if you, if you, if you still think Trump has a chance of winning, click that subscribe button. If you think there's no way in the world Trump, subscribe button. If you think Trump doesn't stand out, just went off over the building. There's so many people hit it. Trump doesn't stand out, just went off over the building, then so many people hit it. Trump doesn't stand a chance to win, click the dislike button. I'm telling you, I show you what happened.
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Starting point is 01:35:52 We told him we should have 90 minutes. We're thinking of you, you know, Pat's got to catch a flight. He's got his private jet sitting outside, warming up on the runway. And then he's going to jump out of here. But I know that Pat appreciate your private jet outside as well, Daniel? All kinds of fired up. Yeah, just like the one that the roadrunner uses,
Starting point is 01:36:09 is that the caravans, yeah. Thank you for coming down and giving you a perspective. We always appreciate your perspective. Pat, I'm good podcast here. Gang, have a wonderful day. Enjoy the madness over the weekend. It's a show. We'll see who's going to get elected.
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