PBD Podcast - Whitney Webb On Why The Deep State Hates Trump | Ep. 270 | Part 2

Episode Date: May 18, 2023

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30 seconds. Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so close, I can take sweetest thurries. I know this life meant for me. Yeah, why would you plan on galiah when we got bett David? Value payment, giving values, contagious, this world, I'm on your pinoas, we can't no value that hate. It's how he run, homie, look what I've become.

I'm the under one. But I've become a So let who's ruined? Many people's lives the last 20 years. Let's make a list. Okay, if we were to say who's ruined many people's lives the last 20 years We can put FBI there. We can put CIA there we can put Clintons there. We can put CDC there We can put NIH there, you know, we can put Clintons there. We can put CDC there. We can put NIH there. We can put China there. We can put Fauci there.

We can put World Economic Forum there. We can put, you know, you realize where I'm going with this. Like, we can put Biden's family there. We can put McConnell, we can put, we can put so many names on this list, right? Every one of those guys hate Trump every one of them hate Trump why well um Exactly yeah, but I don't think it's necessarily because again, you know

I think again the American public maybe it's Hollywood for long time, see things as kind of black and white. Oh, if all the bad guys are against this guy, he must be good. I don't, I think the real world doesn't really function like that a lot. By the time you get to sort of be rise to that level to an extent, you have to have made deals in the past that aren't necessarily great.

I don't disagree, you know what I mean? I don't disagree. And like Trump's mentor, Roy Cohn, and saying Lee Dirty. Of course. And saying Lee Dirty, you know, have made deals in the past that aren't there. I don't disagree. You know what I mean? I don't disagree. And like Trump's mentor, Roy Cohn, and saying Lee Dirty. Of course. And saying Lee Dirty, you know, and a lot of, you know, the art of the deal, he learned that from Cohn, you know, and Cohn had learned it from Genero So Pope, who was like this Italian, very close friend

of Frank Costello and the guy that ran the cement industry concrete and the screen, you know, or so. But everybody in the, everybody in the, that's what, that's what, that's what it's not dirty. I don't, there's difference between, no, there's difference between dirty. No, I disagree. What I'm trying to, okay, so for example, this is where I'm going with this. To me, I have a lot of people that you would say are dirty, okay, and somebody could make a very

clear argument that these people based on their past are dirty, okay. And I've spent a lot of argument that these people based on their past are dirty. Okay. And I've spent a lot of hours with these guys. And when I sit down with them and I say, so tell me what happened that one time when tata tata tata. And I will let me tell what happened when we were in the room, podcast, Alano, he did this. And then all of a sudden, God, he said this and that. And oh, I got it. So hey, when you're self, when you were in this situation and this one guy that was Robin Banks, we had him on the thing, I'm like, when you were in this situation and this one guy that was robin banks, we had them on the thing

I'm like when you were doing this and why did you do this and how did the bank fall for this and how were you able to do this? Okay, so how do we defend against that right so Even right now for example, you know the one the biggest reasons why big pharma is doing what it's doing and take advantage of people in America It's because the patent laws that we have this whole hatchman and, I think, is the one of the senators from Utah, the Republican and the other congressmen, is from California, who is a Democrat, they come together, they lord the what do you call it, the patent law to 14 years, and in 1994, under Clinton, they raised it to 20 years, and these insurance companies come out with medication and they can sell it for 20 years patent nobody else can compete with them

and the price point one of the drugs we looked at uh... vinyne the price point of what they sold and then the year when uh... what he called it when the patent expired within three years the price of the medicine dropped 98.5%. Let me say this one more time. It went from a thousand dollars to 15 bucks. Okay? Because now everybody could compete in a market place.

So you look at these laws, you're like, okay, so I can see why a big pharma would negotiate and hire lobbyists to go in there to pass a lot to extend the patent for 20 years and then figure out, otherwise some of them are extending them for another 29 years, 39 years. Okay, that's dirty.

Let's figure out with a negotiate these policies. What I'm asking about here is, these are all the top 10 list of organizations that are the ones that have destroyed America the most, divided us the most, had us fighting against each other all of these guys hate yeah the orange area so you know so what what why is that well i think there i i guess i would say two things uh... well in my opinion

i think more than anything else these guys more than the hate trump i think the hate trump's base more than the hate trump specifically and i would argue that because of the war on domestic terror infrastructure being set up, expressly to target people in that base. And also, anyone that has sort of nationalist bent, I would guess. And Trump obviously postures as being nationalist.

And I don't think they like that. And pushing to bring industry back to the US, all of that stuff, the decision was made explicitly by the people who actually run America to move industry out of the US many decades ago. They do not want to bring it back. They don't. And I think if a lot of these people, like I mentioned earlier,

have this goal of making this global economy. And a lot of that has since been wrapped into a gender 2030 and the people actually developing those policies, I don't think they want a nationalist guy. There's an effort globally to really vilify nationalism. It doesn't matter if it's Trump, it's also Bolsonaro, Brazil or whatever. And I don't think you have to like them, but I think the reason they're so against them is because they want to vilify nationalism. If I have to choose between nationalism and what's the opposite of nationalism? Internationalism. Okay, exactly. If I have to choose between being proud of my heritage, my country, my land, and everybody else the world what will give me a good argument that being about that it's it's about

sovereignty i think that at the end of the day because when you remove national sovereignty then the people actually running the show are even more on accountable yeah so they'll use nationalism to link it to germany but again so here's what that's what has been going on it's bullshit i think that there literally Hitler, Putin's literally Hitler. If people fall for their night, but let's kind of go to this. The closest president I can find to Trump, closest family. I can see to Trump as John F. Kennedy, closest.

I think those two to me are very close. Neither one of them have a nice resume. You know, they've done some stuff in the past, you know, Kennedy, all that stuff. But both of them, the people of power, like linden johnson to hoover to c.i.a. sir those guys hated canadi okay the same people hate to trump trump in canadi politically believe it or not are more similar but you know canadi was a proud second amendment and r.a. member today canadi is not a

democrat but it's a hero to live in the country so what i watch for is the final so here's a question for you Whitney the question for you is this what institution has hurt america that loves trump uh... yeah that would probably take some thinking to do at least in the u.s. it's pretty clear that by this question i think i think you know what i'm asking i want you to think about it what institution what institution

that hates america that's hurt america loves trump i can't think of one i want you to think about it because you're you're more able to kind of see it from the other side what institution that's hurts hurts that has hurt America the last 20 years loves and supports Trump not from that list that you

said from the Fauci so well maybe I'm not thinking about anybody I can't even think of one well I guess here's here's a thing that really concerns me about Trump as a relates to national sovereignty recently he did an interview and he said something about Israel, about how Israel essentially he said it, controls Congress and how he thought that was a good thing. Okay. So regardless of how you feel about Israel Zionism, the US-Israel relationship, I do not think it's a good sign to have your nationalist politicians say a foreign power rightfully unduly influences our national Congress.

And if you look at the history, there are Israeli espionage operations that have happened. Jonathan Pollard is probably the best well-known where that gravely undermined US national security. And I think those institutions support Trump, but they're not actually there. Fair. I can give an argument to have a give me one more. Go one more. Go two more. Go three more. Adam, you're here. What are you thinking? You're saying that institutions that Give me any institutions or individuals that have

Hurt America that love Trump. I'm actually curious. By the way, if you're watching, it's comment-blowing, hash, debate each other. I'm really curious. I don't know all the institutions. This isn't my world. I mean, from the FBI. This is, you research, you've been following politics for good 20 years. You know, you're in it. What is, Rob, yourself? What institution?

I'm actually curious right now. What institution that's made our lives worse that made people stay home during COVID, that forced people to do shit they don't want to do it. Well, okay, about COVID though, Trump still is really in to operation warp speed and what that produced. And we've declined to distance himself

from any sort of the vaccine stuff. Fine, so use that one, that's one. So he operation warp speed that you try to speed up, getting vaccine, but the reality is Pfizer didn't announce that they got the vaccine two days after the election, which didn't help them anyways. Yeah, but what I'm saying is I don't I don't think that is that hurt Americans. It was not a good idea to put the military specifically DARPA people in charge of that who have sort of DARPA tends to have sort of this mad scientist view and they have partnerships with people like Moderna, which also is partnered with the Bill and Melinda Gates.

I don't know if they support Trump though. I think they manipulated Trump into bullying him into doing that. I don't think Trump still supports that operation. The warp speed. Yeah, I think he takes credit for the fact that he was able to get that. Yeah, but then you have Peter Navarro saying, oh, he was just here on the park. Yeah, so he was manipulated you have Peter Navarro right saying, oh, he was my dad. He was just here on the park. So he was manipul, so it's possible. Keep going. Okay. So that's one. Keep going. Give me a couple more. Well, okay. I'm not an expert on, unlike Trump stuff, necessarily, but I personally don't trust any politician, especially one

that gets to that level. I do think though that it is important, in my opinion, to push for national sovereignty and things like that. What I mentioned with though, that it is important, in my opinion, to push for national sovereignty and things like that. What I mentioned with Israel, that does concern me, because Israel's foreign policy objectives or policy objectives, as it relates to the United States, do not always coincide with American national interests. The Iraq War is a huge example of that. Netanyahu being like positive reverberations around the region.

You had the Wexner Foundation, which was tied up with Israel at that time, trying to develop talking points to push us into Iraq and all of this stuff. That cost American lives, cost American money, obviously, and all sorts, millions of innocent people dead in the Middle East, not in our national security interest. And you have a lot of, I mean, even the Trump White House, the FBI found stingray devices that were Israel's government spying on the Trump White House, nothing was done.

And there's a lot of things going back. Robert Maxwell sold bugged software on behalf of Israel to our new facilities. It's in D. Ellis Alamos lab. Ken Henry Kissinger told him who to pay off. Nothing happened to Henry Kissinger. John Tower was the guy he paid off, former head of the Senate Armed Services Committee, opened the door for Maxwell to sell this buck software.

And then they take our nuclear secrets and then they sell it on to China. So that is a problem for me. I mean, you say that's one example, but I think that is a pretty significant example. And personally, I would challenge Trump on that when it comes to the America first stuff. But at the same time, when you're talking about the Republican party, one out of 20 institutions, you just mentioned. That's fine. No, but I think in terms of undermining the claim of America first, I think that is something

that he definitely needs to address. What I like that you do, I'm not you, you're the pro here, you're in the world that you're and that you go in and you find stuff, right? That's your job, you're very good at it. I would be very curious if you went and you investigated the one guy that was assassinated and the other guy that was character assassinated in ways no one's ever been character assassinated before.

Why is that? Why are those two families feared as much as they were feared is it because they were doing so many side deals I don't think so no no no so so that's my so what I'm trying to find that is because think about this here's what we want to do. There's two ways to to to to what we like to see more people who love America

that are not willing to bend their backs for anybody and negotiate anything just to be invited to those cool parties. Okay. Yeah, obviously that would be better, but is Trump that guy? I'm not saying if Trump is that guy. What I'm saying, but here's what I'm saying to you.

I'm saying go investigate him and go write something on him and Kennedy. Link those two families and then write them Write whatever dirt or anything you want to find but then also ask Why do these organizations if we were to rank okay if we would rank the last six years 1964 1963 till today. Let's go on November of 1963 till today, right that's six years From the last six years, from your perspective, give me the five agencies, individuals,

organizations that have destroyed America the most, the five, the top five. Oh, man. Give me the top five. You're really putting me on the spot. I'm not saying you know exactly what the top five, but in your opinion, what do you think are the top five? All right.

It's, well, I guess it's pretty broad. Um, a lot of corporate America would be up there for sure, multinational corporations, um, big pharma, um, IBM, um, a lot of the big tech companies then and now for sure. Okay, big pharma building this transnational power structure. Right. Who else at the end of the day I like to throw the Fed in there, okay, yeah, Federal Reserve. Yeah, okay game who else or you can just broaden that make it banks the big banks

Central banks are the biggest banks right? Yeah, I got I got all that together. What else would you say? Definitely the CIA definitely Justice would you put DOJ over FBI like how how would, how would, well, DOJ oversees the FBI technically. Yeah, I saw a put DOJ and FBI together. How about lobbyists? Yeah, but lobbyists are revolving door on the payroll stuff. So ultimately that's the corporate side subverting the public sector or the corporate capture.

Military industrial complex. We want to put those guys, so because the military industrial complex. And in terms of that, military industrial complex, in terms of how people think of that, I would say the contractors. General dynamics, insanely corrupt.

That's the crown family. I mentioned earlier, they run that insanely corrupt. Lester Crown, the Pentagon tried to get his security clearance revoked three times. And they couldn't do it because higher ups kept shutting it down. So perfect, let's do this.

Let's stay on this. This is very helpful. Let's continue, because I think this is good. So we got big pharma, we got IBM, we got Fed, we got big banks. Well, I would say big tech is better. Big tech is better. Okay, big tech. Then we said the CIA, DOJFBA combined together, military industrial complex.

Fine. Now give me individuals. What families, names, the last 60 years, since November of, to November of 1963, not 20 second, since November 1st of 1963, till today, which top families have destroyed America the more? Okay, Rockefellers, number one, probably. Yeah, after that, I'd put the Chicago families up there, the crowns and the pritzkers.

I'd probably put them together. Yeah. Chicago, gotta tools. All right, the opioid crisis, the Sacklers. Okay, the Sacklers. Because that, I mean, a lot of, not enough people talk about that, but that you could sort of rope into big pharma. like some of the big companies that are tied to suspects stuff going on with the anthrax attacks and also with COVID stuff

Emergent bio solutions, you know, they make a killing off of selling Narcan They have a monopoly on Narcan too, so we got three Rockefeller the Chicago and the Pritzker you put them together the opioid the Sackler's wills the Chicago and the Pritzker, you put them together to opioid the Sackler's wills. Well, again, I think, you know, when you're talking about banking interests, a lot of these tend to be transnational. You have some of these old money banks from Europe. Give me names, family. Rothschild. Yeah, I'd probably put the Rothschilds on there for sure, but they openly made an alliance with the Rockefellers's not that long ago. Who else? Um, these are just families. Probably talking about individuals like a Harry Kissinger.

It could be one of their clents and Biden. People who are sold America. Well, Kissinger sold America out, definitely. Yeah. I'm here because of Kissinger. You know what I'm really. Oh, really? I'm from Iran.

Kissinger was supposed to help Iran. The Shah, he did in the last minute, the Shah fell and then catastrophic issues happen homani shows up on their six you know anyways that's a whole different story so Kissinger who else would you put us top of would you put what are the names that we want to say do we want to say Johnson Lyndon Johnson yeah the Bushes the Bushes but they're the dollar dollars dollars dollar, the dollar. The airboard or Sullivan and Framwell, which is their law firm that they ran forever.

That list is, that's, that could be a huge list. Okay, so you don't have a Clinton or Biden's here at all. You don't think they're that important. I would think the Clinton's bushes, Biden's, they, yeah. Let's lump them in just some. So you put all of them together. Okay, they're, they're different sides of just the same crime fear, especially the bushes and the Clintons. There's too much weird stuff around them, especially when you

look at things like Iran Contra. Like I mentioned earlier, Bush covered for Mark Middleton. They like stepping in for each other when they need to. So here's my question. You ready? All right. So here we go. Okay. Which one of these loves Trump? Yeah, I don't I don't think they do. That's the point. Yeah, I see. I see your point. I see your point. Today is I would love, because I do so many different things right now.

I wish I had time to do investigative journalism. I just don't have the luxury to do right now. But that's why I love for somebody like you, who if this interests you, and if you're inspired by it, go do those two families. Sure. I do think, if you're talking about Trump specifically, you know, I do think he has some conflicts of interest and has for a long time.

Sure, I don't disagree. Yeah, so, you know, at the end of the day, if the issue is, let's stop the vilification of nationalism, let's make moves to protect our national sovereignty. I think that has to be mass movement from the American public. Because, I see what you're saying, but at the same time, I think so many people in the United States, whether it's been instilled in them through education or culture or whatever,

seem to think that as long as we get the right guy in the White House, everything's going to magically fix itself in this country. I don't know. And I do not think that is possible. Believe know, believe what you want to believe about Trump, he came in in, you know, 2016 with great intentions and all of that, if you want to believe that, I don't necessarily believe that, but if you do,

you know, he wasn't able to do that. Why? One guy can't fix it. You know, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. running right now, you know, he's obviously very different than a lot of these guys. Do you think if he got in, he could fix it all? I think the problem is so big at this point and that so many of these institutions we've been naming off, it's the most powerful institutions in the US government.

They said before, with Nixon and Watergate, oh, it's just some rotten apples in the barrel, but keep the barrel. I'm telling you, the barrel is rotten. And the only way we can fix that in this country is that people have to realize that and people have to start taking responsibility for their own lives. But what does that mean? Because it's a good motivational speech, but what does that mean? Here's what it means. So what do you need to be self-sufficient as a community, as an individual, as a family? Not to rely on the government. But also multinational corporations, right?

We have outsourced from our communities, from our country, almost everything we produce to foreign powers that don't like us, right? Or we're in trillions of dollars in debt to our ostensible main enemy. So I would argue that's because we have our government corporations, but the American people have co-signed it because they've been told this is more convenient, this will be cheaper, blah, blah, blah, outsourced, so much of what we need to survive as a people, as communities, as families, to people that don't like us.

And that's not necessarily just China here, right? That's these corporations, these elite families that own most of corporate America and the banks and what have you. They don't like the little people. Yeah, so if you're listening to this folks, you're enjoying this podcast, smash the subscribe button, and turn on the notifications. And just in case something happens, your text award podcast to 310-340-1132, text award podcast to 310-340-1132 for anything that we do the next live event and

Maybe if you would like to have a Whitney web at a live event at our studio in the future Let us know but Texas. There will be announcing the next live here's wall. Let's continue. Okay, so I agree I think the challenge is a couple different things one is we think one person can save America When is the next Kennedy when is the the next Reagan going to be here? It's us. I fully agree with you. It's us. I agree with you.

But I think people like you are very important. I think we need to protect people like you. Because I think people like you are a gem. We need more of you. It takes a lot of courage and sacrifice in your personal life to want to study these types of topics. This is not an easy job and profession you've chosen. I salute you for the job that you do to me.

It's a form of public service. And we're not paying taxes for a person like you. You're independent, you're doing this for us. We thank you for it. You're very important. I think individually we need to stop relying on the government. So I think one of the things that is anybody that pushed a lot of entitlements the last six years

and got more Americans to be relying on the government, I think they screwed America as well. They got people not to realize what their capabilities are. That's perfect. But the problem here for me, what I think immediately, those are long-term solutions for us to become independent, responsible, not relying a government and take care of ourselves. I get it. But I also think this person we're looking at to be able to get in there and do the work is not going to be a person that looks and walks and talks the way you want that person. Well, sure, but here's what I worry about, see, with the 2024 election. Given how the other elections have been, what's going to stop either side from being fraud, right?

Or you rush to get to point out, or some other kind of thing. I can't stand the fraud. Well the thing is, our elections, the legitimacy of them is already questioned by a massive portion of the country after 2020. No, but both sides have been, the Clinton and the African 20s, but the other side, it'll be the other side again, you know what I mean? That's something both of them do. And we just have to accept the fact that when people, you know, NFL, while they cheated, that's who won the surrogate got it.

Okay, but let's say Trump gets in the national security state and all these other institutions hate him, right? And they'll put their weight behind the fraud claim. What happens then? To say what? They cheated to do it. Oh, yeah, there was cheating, there was what, whatever, foreign interference. I don't know. No, we don't know if it's gonna happen, but my concern is, I think we have already really started to move away from democracy

that we are currently living in illusion of democracy and illusion of public voice. I'd like to see us go back to Republic where the individual is protected, because right now the individual is not protected from the majority. But think about the DNC, even in the primaries with Bernie Sanders. Yeah, they're cheating them. I mean, they screwed him. Totally. He was the guy that...

And now they're saying they won't even have a debate in the Democratic primary because the RFK junior against Biden isn't against... So what's your solution though? What's your solution? So for example, you're saying, what if we get this person Trump wins and the Sanctus wins? Okay, what if we get RFK then wins? What if we get, you know, Biden then what's we know what's gonna happen and Biden wants right? We know what's good. Yeah, but if Trump wins and he goes in or the Sanctus

when he goes in, there's a difference between those two winning. If Trump wins and he goes in, they're gonna try to do everything they can and everything's been false, Durham report, you know, the recent thing, Clintons involvement, Obama's involvement. There's so many things that have been proven that were fake the credibility is

But what's been done? What's where's the accountability from who's in his end for many ones and all these people? I mean the stuff that has been these people have gotten away with in a actual election And it's like you know who you know who was enemy to state number one when Trump was president? No, I'm not talking. I'm talking about like the rush again stuff and i don't think i don't think i think i'm honestly those guys are more on the if they keep doing that because that business model is not working for them they keep losing money when they do that they're not creative either

i mean they tend to but the point is let them do that they have they have no moral authority democrats this guy was a guy that believed in the russia stuff first time him and i spoke when i was going to bring him here to be with us on the they have no moral authority, Democrats, this guy was a guy that believed in the Russia stuff. First time him and I spoke when I was gonna bring him here to be with us on the team, I didn't know if I was ready for a guy like this. I question, I'm like, what do you think about this? Can you reason?

Are you able to do this? Well, I think that's the, what do you think about the Russia deal? Eventually he came in and now he reads it, he says I can't believe they did this. So, and he's a guy that is a worker, he's independent, he doesn't rely on the government, he takes care of himself,

he's done very well for himself, and now he's sitting there saying I don't know if I like I'm not a Trump guy but I don't know what they're doing here there is more people in his camp sir and then I just submit one thing we talked about this list of institutions that have basically harmed America the number one item on this list that we left out is the media and mainstream media and the lies and the narratives if they told the American public. And I'm a type of person that prides myself on digesting a whole appetite of media, especially now.

But there's a wide swath of Americans that are just basically just peripherally reading the news. Yeah, I guess it's russian thing thing. Yep. Well, I guess they Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess the dominion thing. It's like we don't have time to basically pick apart each of these stories Like we're all not with you web. We can diagnose all these wild different stories and just to accumulate them and diagnose them Mostly, we're like, yeah, I guess there's a russian thing going on Boom. Here's what concerns me though. So Based on what you guys have been saying,

and it's very true, collapse and mainstream media is collapsing. And we're in a very different position now than 2016, or really any other time, as far as that metric is concerned. But what concerns me is that, OK, so with COVID, you had this huge push to turn everything, move everything to the digital sphere, right? And at the same time, you're trying

to move everyone, everything, all stuff online, digital sphere. And at the same time, you're trying to move everyone, everything, all stuff online, but you're also making this big push to control what's online. Yeah. And so you're having this push to censor. I get Twitter files touched on that, obviously. And there's this talk from Matt Taiyabi and others about the censorship industrial complex.

That is a very real thing. And for someone like me, the threat of censorship is very real. I did real factual reporting on stuff going on with COVID-19, and I lost my Patreon. They admitted that there was nothing untrue in the report. They censored me for, but they thought it might affect vaccine uptake.

And so they took away all my money. Well, what it doesn't just all come down to one word, which is control. It does come down to control. It does come down to control. They want to control. You spend your money. They're going to show your social credit score.

So this is why I mentioned there's this push into these digital systems. Everything's going to be online or on the cloud or whatever. And at the same time, they're controlling. They're making an unprecedented push for control over that digital sphere. So we're being hurt into a place and they're creating all of these, all of this infrastructure to control what we can see in here once we're all stuck there, essentially.

So you have collapse and trust of mainstream media. The goal it seems like is to take out everyone that won't say what mainstream media says and at the same time, you're having mainstream media creepingly being replaced by chat GPT and things like that. They're saying that by 2025, 90% of all the content media content online is going to be chat GPT generated, right? So you don't have regular people telling you what to say. How are people going to know what's real and what's not at that point? And now there's all this talk of deep fakes. AI art has gone into this new era. You can make anyone with

AI art being a picture with Jeffrey Epstein, you know what I mean? So, you know, this is a really unprecedented situation and to think that these institutions we've been listing off those actors when it go, you know, throw the kitchen sink at us to get what they want, you know, I think that might be kind of naive to think that because, you know, this is,

they're making a total push for control and they're gonna put out all the stops because if they don't get it they lose right and stuff will start to come out they don't want that to happen you know so this is they're giving it they're all and I don't think they're going to win at the end of the day but how much damage do they cause but they've all done a plenty of plenty of damage. Well I was going to say because, I think it was the podcast with Giuliani and then where we were talking about the hope and having hope and having faith

not losing all that hope, but just from everything that we talked about when he from Epstein to these guys is like, are we wasting our, I 100% appreciate getting it out there, getting the word out there. But are we wasting our time in the sense that these people have set up the pieces of the game where no matter what, we could literally just like the whole Durham report came out.

FBI, Department of Justice, Obama administration, Hillary, they all peddled this lie. The whole brush all, it was all BS. They framed Michael Flynn through start general. It just came out. The reports in your face, nobody's going to go to jail. Hillary's going to walk free. Nothing happens. So are we just wasting our time with all these just evil players?

Cause at the end of the day, what really happens to them? Yeah, so the lack of accountability thing is a major problem. And again, I think the main issue we need to be looking here is public trust, right? There's no public trust in the media. There's the public trust that institutions is dwindling.

But what do those institutions do when they realize no one trusts them anymore? They double down. They're not going to give up control easily, you know what I mean? So what are they planning to do? And this is why I always go back to this stuff that's been set up by the Biden administration, but it's antecedents go before Biden,

this war on domestic terror infrastructure. All of the people that were counter-terror experts in developing AI, the uncertainty in Iraq, are now developing AI and policies to go after regular Americans that are accused of domestic terror. And if you read the policy papers from the Biden administration, their definition of what is a domestic terrorist is extremely broad, it's extremely broad. It's includes people who don't like even on the left, the advance of multi-national corporations and global capitalism and stuff.

Are people who are perceived as being too anti-authority and too anti-government? Or parents speaking up at school board meetings saying they don't want their kids learning about sex and they're yelling at those meetings. They're like, I heard the domestic terror is. So the problem is, how are they trying to do this? It's with AI, it's with what data mining off of social media.

I would say if people really want to shut down this machine, get off of like a C social media. Okay, yeah. But again, like, you know, I know that's hard for people because people are so into it and like me as a journalist, a lot of people won't read my stuff if I don't use it and blah, blah, blah, but you have to look at what they're setting up and they wouldn't be setting up this war on domestic terror infrastructure where it could be you unless they were planning to use

it at some point. And all they need, Bill Barr said it a few years ago when he was Attorney General, he was talking about getting a backdoor and encryption, eliminating essentially any sort of privacy-enhancing technology for the public. He was saying at some point there's going to be a big event that will galvanize public opinion around these issues. It sort of reminds me about the PNAC, New Pearl Harbor stuff before 9-11, you know. But it's true, you have this one crisis that comes and there's all this fear, this is the boogeyman, this is what we have to do to stop it. Because if you think, like I mentioned earlier, we're being hurted into this corral

of the digital control grid, I guess, and they're trying, you know, and they're- Historically, what I think. It's the carrot and the stick, you know what I mean? Yeah, I'll totally get that. Explain very clearly. But, you know, you know the whole thing when some people say, well, you know,

what if you only had one hour to live? What would you do? Like, dude, if I had one hour to live, I wouldn't be here right now. That's the home. Do that. So let me get to straight. For the rest of the year, you want me to treat my life

as if I only have one hour to live. Yeah, I'd be home for the entire year. So is that what you want me to do? Well, no, still be effective, but what if you have one hour to live. Yeah, I'd be home for the entire year. So is that what you want me to do? Well, no, it will still be effective, but what if you had one hour to live? Dude, I get that. And I've said this myself. It's an element of, this is why I think I'm working too hard.

This is why I'm doing this. Coach, so there's so many arguments with contradictions that we all give. Our parents told us, we tell our kids, we tell our audience, you know, the media tells us, leaders tells us, bookstuffs, the world is filled with a lot of contradictions. And somehow, some way we have to find some level of reasonable decision for us to make that comes with contradictions. For example, you know, this whole thing is like, well, one person is not gonna save this and it's not gonna, it's gotta be us.

Okay, I think that's partially true. Long term, it's gotta be us. But it was one person that was able to have the courage to go against Hitler and it wasn't Chamberlain. It was another guy named Churchill. And if there is no Churchill, with the fearlessness that he had, no matter how much shit you talk about his past, how he was, who he was, who he was, who he was, who he was. If there's no Churchill, you and I are probably speaking

German right now, or the world will be a different world today. Okay. Every once in a while, during times like this, you still have to have somebody speak on your behalf. I'm not saying a lot of people like follow your content, they feel like you're speaking for them. So why do you do so well? Because there's millions of people around the world that are saying, dude, she's speaking, she's me. I feel like she's talking on my behalf, great.

I think we need somebody that's going to get up there and piss a lot of people off. When I see candidates that are already broken deals with everybody pre-election, I already know that person is not going to do what Americans do today. I already know that person is going to get into the White House and they are going to do what? Hey, I'm into the White House and this. You know, the person to do that, I still do believe because the angle of just thinking it's us, that gets us from that trusting in the voting system

and even to show up to vote. Here's what I mean when I say, the one guy thing, one guy can't save it because what happens is a lot of people feel like, oh, as long as I vote for that one guy and he gets in, then I don't have to do anything anymore. I don't agree with that. But that's how a lot of people react, okay?

So I'm not saying we shouldn't, you know, there's no good to call up. But you and I don't have to do anything anymore. But that's how a lot of people react. So I'm not saying we shouldn't, you know, there's no good to call a good guy or a better guy in the White House. You don't, I don't. No, but there are people that do that. And so that's why I try and stress in my work. Especially in today's climate, I mean, there's this crazy banking crisis going on. And it's not going to get better before it gets worse.

So what do you do tomorrow if you wake up and your money's gone? What are you going to do? Are you going to feed your family? What if the internet shut down? I encourage people to think about that type of building, that type of resilience in their lives because the less dependent you are in the system, the less harder it is for you to be enslaved by that system. 100%.

So that's what I'm trying to say about personal responsibility and stop outsourcing your needs to these people in this system. Would it be better to get someone who speaks truth to power into the White House? I'm not saying that would be bad at all. What I'm saying is a lot of people tend to go back to sort of armchair activism or political seasons over.

I'm not going to fight for my rights anymore because now I've got the guy up there. I do think you need somebody to speak on your behalf. Yes, sure, but the problem is a lot of people like to not do anything. The reality is the preto theory has been around for a while. The 80-20 rule, 80% is not going to do anything anyway. We're not relying on the 80% to do something. I've been part of the 80% when I was trying to get everybody else to save my life. And I'm like, this shit doesn't work.

I want to be part of the community that can stand up and be responsible for something. I shifted. I had a 1.8 GPA in high school. Trust me, there's no one in high school that's going to say, Patrick, but David was going to do something big with his life. Finally, I'm like, get off your ass and go do something. I joined the army at 18. Life changed. So I'm with you there, but I also do believe this notion, like, you know how single men and women who wait until they get married, what's the

problem the older you get? What is the problem with the, are you married? I don't know if you're married or not. Married with kids, okay. So you want to. I'm a single mom of this. Okay. So the whole concept would marriage, right? The whole concept would marriage. You wait to get married. Okay. Wait till 35.

What's your 40? What's your 45? What's your 50? What's the problem the longer we wait until we get married? What are we really saying to the world? What we're really saying to the world is what? I'm gonna wait until I find what? The perfect person. Guess what? Good luck. The older you get, the harder it's gonna be to find that perfect person, right? So there is part of that argument that also has a leak in it. There is risk in marriage, right? There is risk in having kids. There's risk in marriage, right? There is risk in having kids.

There's risk in saying, I think this guy could be the right guy, but it's even riskier to say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not gonna do this. There's risk, you know, there's risks. Relationships don't work, you know, kids don't, there's payment that stuff. So I think for us, the one part, I absolutely agree with, that we gotta take full responsibility.

I think the other part is as well. Hey, who do you think that is the least corrupt person that is not loved by the corrupt institutions? Do you think could go and fight these corruption that has the highest likelihood? Try to support that person. If you think it's a RFK go for it. If you think it's tall, if you think it's a even a libertarian guy, we had a guy named Dave Smithy. I should like this guy. I hope he does something if it's a Dave Smith go for it If you think it's a Trump go for it if you think it's vvc go for it But find someone that you think could fight that corruption what I like about vvc is

He's ran a company that's worth a couple billion dollars and he's calling out all the shit He's calling out all these weird institutions Supported guy like that So do be independent, but also do sell and support the guys that you think have the highest likelihood of fighting the things that you also want someone to fight for. I think both are necessary. Sure. Yeah. So, okay. Well, you know, but I mean, the only thing I would say is like, you know, if you have more limited means, limited finances, I would personally think it would make sense to invest in. I don't know. You're a resilient food supply for you and your family and things like that before donating, instead of donating.

I said, don't, I mean, this actually wasn't a, I wasn't trying to raise money for anybody. And I'm never going to get into politics because I'm not, I'm not born here. I don't have any interest for being a governor. I enjoy building businesses. You know, will we do something to advise and all this other stuff? We're already doing that anyways and directly with certain camps. That's a different story. But for me, it's more about your dinner table.

So what do you think about this? Let me tell you what he made me think about. What do you think about these institutions? I think that is a form of support. I think dinner table, lunch, coffee, conversation. Well, supporting the rhetoric that you think is important, sure, in the talking points and all of that. Maybe the values and principles that you think are most important.

Like, you know, I, you asked somebody a question. So what did Biden say last week? The biggest threat to the United States of America or white supremacists. Seriously? Really? So let me get to straight. So if I'm voting for Biden and you're saying the most important serious threat is white Americans that are apparently white supremacists that don't go along with your philosophies, I mean, if you think you agree with that vote for him, support him. If you don't, don't.

That's just a way of, you know, supporting or not supporting that argument. But Pat, do you think, okay, so let's say another person like that, Pat, grows to this, this, this power becomes, wants to be the president. We want him. You don't think that the powers that be, we already saw it. I do think that they're gonna, I'm saying they're all gonna go after this person, but they're not gonna let them have that. Okay, okay, so what's the alternative? Well, that's my point. That's why I was going to my point Where's the alternative? Look the more you win in life you trust fewer people Because more people rip you off more people backstab you it becomes harder to trust people that takes longer to trust people You're not as open as you once were when you were not even innocent. You see the way people take advantage of you.

You're like, oh my God, I did that for that guy. Why did I get to take advantage of me? What a freaking shady situation. Now you're like, you know what? Screw it. I don't trust anybody, right? When you're moving up. Okay.

So what are you going to do? Sit by yourself and not go entertain. No. So I think when a person gets involved in power like that, they're going to be tainted. they're gonna see the darker side, they're gonna see the gamification against them. You chose this job, you shouldn't chose this job, then don't do it, you chose to be a parent.

Being a parent does not like, hey, all these pictures you do for, you know, annual for Christmas party cards, look at how great they look. You just saw one second of the photo shoot of three hours, you what you didn't see the two hours of fifty nine minutes is fighting throwing a fit poop in changing clothes all the shit that happens in a photo shoot same thing's gonna happen as well but we can give up hope to say well there's nothing I

can do about it and you know I'm helpless and I don't I don't matter I don't no that's what cowards do that's what victims do and a DNA of an American is not a coward it's not a victim is somebody that has hope and goes and fights for them. Well, that's why I talk about personal responsibility. I mean, this is supposed to be a country of people that like went out to the frontier and like, we're self-sufficient and built something, right? But I think Americans today have been conditioned to be very different than that. And I think it's high time that people return back to the values of, from, you know, which this country came from, which to the values of, from, you know,

which this country came from, which includes the values of the Constitution, but also those values of self-sufficiency. Because if you're not able to depend on yourself or people you trust for something, you're depending on someone else. And that person, you know, you want to eat, you got to jump through these hoops. I mean, that's not given what we're seeing being built around us today. I do not think that is a good way to continue to live personally. So I definitely agree with that about values, for sure, but at the same time, like I said earlier, I think too many people to put too much of their faith and too much of their energy in just wanting one person to do everything for them magically, a political savior type

of thing. And I think that dynamic is very, especially at this point, harmful. It's time for people to make something of themselves or do something in the real world to protect their family. I mean, liking stuff on Twitter, retweeting, that's not activism, that's not necessarily gonna change it. It's the lowest level though, it's a form of it.

It's a low level level. There's people that do that and they're like, oh, well that's what, you know, it's, I think it's enough. I would rather take that than below that, which is doing nothing because you're hopeless and you're hopeless. That's worse than somebody that does a retry.

But a lot of those hopeless people too, where like I see this whole system, I think it's all rigged, right? I'm talking to those people and I'm saying, you don't have to participate in the system. Yeah. You know, you can still do something about this that doesn't involve interacting with that system at all.

But I think that's selfish. I think that's selfish. Well, if you're building a parallel system to keep you and your family and your community resilient and times of crisis, I don't think that's selfish. I think that's what happened during the Great Depression and the beginning. Let me correct myself.

I think you need to be selfish 70% of the time. But I 60 to 70% of the time myself. I think you need to be selfish 70% of the time. But I 60 to 70% of the time I do think you need to be selfish and make those decisions for yourself. But the additional 20, 30, 40% where you need to be selfless, I think you need to also be thinking long term because you don't matter as much as you think you matter. Meaning you have kids, I have kids. We matter, but you're officially living for your kids

in a different way than you when you were single. Life changes slightly, right? So we have to be thinking about what we need to do for them. Do we want to teach them to be fighters? Do we want to teach them to be willing to not give up and have this mindset? Like, you know, we have a guy that comes to Mario's wedding. One of the relatives that comes to Mario's wedding

in our backyard is from the other side of the family. It's like, wow, you know, these rich people, you know, there's nothing I can do about it. You know, we're poor. There's no time to say, Patrick is rich. There's nothing we can do about it. I don't know if Patrick grew up in a freaking, his dad's a 99 cents per cash here.

What do you mean you cannot do anything about it? Patrick's a military guy that got out, not having a clue what the hell to do. He decided to read a few thousand business books and life changed. This concept of, I don't really matter that much, I think that's also catastrophic. I want people to read every single thing you've written

and say, I want to do something about this. I want to rise up and risk my life to contribute and fight these mofos. Yeah, absolutely. I want to go, I want to brawl. I want to be a Whitney Webb. That's what I want to go. I want to brawl. I want to be a Whitney Web. That's what I want to do. We need a hundred Whitney Web right now. We need more boys and men around the world, even 14-year-old kids, 15-year-old kids

that are saying, I want to go do some proper investigation. We'll go light it up and go think and, you know, point out different arguments. So for me, hero-making machine, I think you're a hero. I'm edifying you as a hero. I think we need more people to want to be that there's different ways of becoming a hero. I think you're one of the ways of becoming a hero. Let's address one thing. Has nothing to do with this. Woody Allen. I want to talk about this because a lot of things have been coming up with Woody Allen.

And, you know, Vinny Brada, Vinny, if you want to even read the story with Woody Allen, I think it's on page 8, you need on that. I'm pretty sure Vinny the story with Woody Allen, I think it's on page 8, you need on that. I'm pretty sure Woody knows something. Go from there. Yeah, OK, so the Wall Street Journal published an analysis of recently released documents that provided details of Jeffrey Epstein contacts with high profile individuals from 2008,

with the guilty police that's eliciting and procuring a minor for prostitution. They include thousands of pages of emails, schedules from 2013 and 2017, which showed the nature of the frequency of these Epstein's which showed the nature of the frequency of these Epstein's contacts with the array of powerful people. They included Lawrence Summers, former Treasury Secretary and one time Harvard University president, who met with Epstein and Harvard after Harvard decided it would no longer accept his donations. And Woody

Allen, Oscar winning movie director who attended dozens of dinners with his wife, Suni, who is his adopted daughter, and he's 87. She's 87 and he's, I'm sorry, he's 87 and she's 52. So like almost a 40 year. Yeah, yeah, it's disgusting. And Epstein's mentioned and about Epstein to film screenings, other figures include billionaire, venture capitalists and LinkedIn co-founder are repopement from what is really prime minister, what Brock and Leon Black, billionaire co-founder, private equity, a giant Apollo global management. So yesterday I was, I was doing, you know, research for, for having you on. And just reading up and then I saw a clip of Mia Farrow, who was, you know, the, she adopted her and Suni Previn and her daughter, Dylan Farrow, was a, a molested.

Was a molested and you know, when you know, when you're doing this type of research, I came up to a clip of the 90s of a leaked, like a tap. I haven't listened to it, but I heard it. So, and I showed it to Pat yesterday. I got emotional in this prep meeting because it's me, Farrow, and Woody Allen's on the phone and she's telling.

She's disturbing. I'm gonna get emotional right now. She's crying. Madhu gonna get emotional right now. She's crying. Maju, this is her adopted daughter. And describing what the rape and the abuse that he did to a seven year old girl and Pat heard this and he was in shock, we have to hear it twice. So that's right, this is a tapped phone call

from Woody Allen talking to me, Farrow. And they're talking about Dylan, who was the seven year old atold at the time and she went to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Maybe how could you do that to her? I don't know anything of that kind. I know what Dylan tells me. You have to have me nothing but lies. Dylan tells the truth inconsistently. No, I don't know that way. I've always always worked and worried about you and Dylan. And I didn't know the doctor had to report this to the authorities. I didn't know that. I went just to be sure she was alright.

And that she's not alright, Woody. She walks around the house holding her vagina. She sleeps with me. She's scared of you. And you're with her. I feel pretty guilty myself that I wasn't there to protect her. Kiss and mommy you didn't help me. And she's a dead issue, don't do that.

And she should never hurt me like that. You should never hurt me doing what is inside. And you would just want to be dead. And I don't really know what for you to do. So yeah. Yeah, that is so disturbing. Yeah, here's something like that. I can't it's just and these people nothing happens Pat No jail Woody Islands walking around this poor girls ruin for all life that Epstein Island all those girls all those kids No accountability these people just walk nothing happened. No people got in trouble Cindy McCain in

January 2020 went in front of she was in front of a stadium full of people She said we all know what Jeffrey Epstein was doing. Yeah, all these people knew so all these people like after he was arrested acting like Oh, yeah, well, I didn't know and it was just money this I mean I can't this is why I get frustrated with the Wall Street Regenerals reporting because it's just like they didn't even mention Woody Allen how how he Married SUNY Previn they didn't even mention Woody Allen, how he married Suni Previn. They don't mention Dylan Farrow at all. Noam Chomsky gets called out about it. He's supposed to be this progressive icon

and he's like, what do you Allen's a great artist? Don't ask me about my evening with a great artist and a convicted pedophile. I mean, it's disgusting. And frankly, in my book, I talk about how these types of operations, whether it's Epstein, whether it's the Franklin scandal, this stuff has been going on for a really long time. And even people that are XCIA, like John Curiacu, have said, like, yeah, when we want to

recruit a source, if they ask for a kid to sexually abuse, we give it to them. Why do we do that? And this is why I get, you know, it's so frustrating because Americans have been sold a vision of their government, a vision of their intelligence community and military that is so divorced from this. And I mean, I just think it's really time that, you know, do we really represent the values that we project

around the world that we're supposed to have internalized? Or no, I don't think we do because we've allowed our country to be run by literal monsters and criminals. And people act like it's fine. And as long as we act like, oh, well, there's nothing I can do about it. No, there is stuff you can do about it. And the first step is to get angry.

Yeah. By the way, is that the clip that she was talking about? Yes. Can you play that? Yeah. Can the clip that she was talking about? Yes. Can you play that? Yep. Can you play that? It hides in plain sight. Epstein was hiding in plain sight.

We all knew about him. We all knew what he was doing. What you were saying? We had no one in the... Twenty-twenty. No legal aspect that would go after him. They were afraid of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid of him.

There's no direct McCain, Biden, Ty. So her saying that means the whole freaking Senate knew. Yep. And nothing was done. I mean, it's just crazy to me. It's scary and like, and so, so when we're, me and Pat are a series, we're a Christians. That's when, and when I get to that point where I'm like, nothing happens to these people.

They always get away with it. I mean, Epstein and Galen are the two that, you know, they have, those two have to be in trouble, but as a Christian, the only good feeling that I have that if there is a hell, these people will go there. Cause Matthew, I think it's chapter 18, Matthew says, if anybody, God said,

or Jesus said if anybody messes with these innocence of the kids, it's better for them to tie a milestone around their head and throw themselves in the ocean. That's the only comforting feeling I have is that if you do that, the government's not going to go after you, obviously, they're all protected, that God will get these people on that. But the thing is, why are we allowing a government that signs off on this crap and, you know, an elite that want to go to a guy that does stuff like that for money so they can like, you know, evade some taxes or, you know, make a couple that does stuff like that for money. So they can like evade some taxes

or make a couple of millions or this and that. They're willing to like co-sign this behavior for that. Why do the American people not get mad and enraged about it? I mean, it drives me crazy. One of the reasons I went and moved to South America is because so I'm 33, the millennial. When I was, I left when I was in my early 20s because I knew about a bunch of crazy crap happening

and everyone my age was like, I don't care as long as I have Netflix and beer. And I mean, there's a lot of Americans that are still like that now, you know? And it's just so, I don't know. I mean, it makes me really upset because, you know, I was really close to my grandparents. They loved this country so much.

And if they only knew If they only knew about this stuff. I mean, I'm just glad they died before Congressers goals. It's just so sad That's that's why I think you're Inspiring a lot of other people that want to be like you. Well, like I say the first step is to get angry Yeah, so many Americans have been you know, we're stimulating all this stuff with like these action movies and death and sex and whatever. The first step is to like stop being so desensitized and get angry and outraged about what's happening.

And what's happening to all, I mean, when you're talking about Epstein or like Woody Allen, these are kids. I mean, Dylan Farrow was seven, but court documents say he was sexually interested in her, but time between the ages of two and three. Three years old. This is a guy people call a great artist

and parade around and defend. It's sick. And I mean, two adopted kids. They were, I mean, Suni Previn was his daughter too. There's pictures of them cuddling when they were, she was like eight or nine. And she was like, nobody, nobody question, nobody gives a damn.

Yeah. Yeah, because, you know, oh, he's a great artist, blah, blah, blah blah blah Well Epstein was a great finance year or whatever So you know, it doesn't matter. I mean once you do that stuff you cross the line and it's been a taboo It's been a red line for thousands of years for a reason, you know And it shouldn't change now so the question becomes out of these ten institutions These five ten fifteen names that we came up with Which one of them protects

guys like Woody and Epstein the most? Well, supposedly law enforcement in this country supposed to prosecute the stuff and they don't, and they're on the take, I think. So who are they accountable to that they don't do that? Because they also answer to somebody where they see it as a risk to go after a guy like Woody Allen or Epstein. Well, again, it's hard to know, but think about Epstein and the sweetheart deal. The US Attorney was Alex Acosta, later become Secretary of Labor.

He was told he had to sign off on the sweetheart deal because Epstein belonged to intelligence and he was told to back off it's above his pay grade. So you can assume that people like that pop up all over the place. It doesn't matter where you were in the government. And I agree with their pet going to the Mark Middleton. Think about this. That was in Arkansas where he's hanging from a tree, shotgun chest, shotgun to his chest, no gun, and they rule it,

the police department that it's a suicide. And nobody says that nobody says timeout. How is that possible? You know what I mean? Well, no one even in the media even bothers to look into who Mark Middleton was. No. At all.

I just told you all this China Gate stuff. You just search on the Congress investigation Senate reports, Mark Middleton's all over it. No one even brings up, not even the Daily Mail brings up China Gate. No one wants to touch that stuff. And it's because you do that, you're gonna get into this murky world,

where like there's Southern Air Transport, there's weird arms deals going on. Someone's making a lot of money. And our intelligence services for a very long time have been very involved in illicit arms deals and illicit drug trades. And the banks too, HSBC, got caught, laundering millions of dollars for Mexican drug cartels.

No one goes to jail. None of them. Sam Bankman-Fried with FTX is about to get 10 of the 13 charges dismissed against him. And he was the only one arrested for FTX, supposedly taking Ukraine aid money and then funneling it back to DNC politicians. Nothing happens. I mean, there's so many examples of this. It's totally mind-boggling.

And like I point out in the first part of my book, actually a lot of Wall Street is hugely dependent on the returns from wandering drug money. If the drug trade globally stopped, the banks would collapse. It's crazy. There is so much corruption here. It's just totally mental. And until we realize the extent of the problem,

we'll never be able to fix it. Because if you have a Disneyland version in your head of what the problem is, you're not the solutions you offer are not going to be tailored to the actual problem. Nothing's going to get fixed. And for a lot of people, it's hard for them to wrap their mind around this stuff. How are these people that I idolize?

Like Woody Allen put out in front of me is this great guy blah, blah, blah. and it clashes with the reality so intensely, people develop cognitive dissidents. Why would he be, why would he have been so promoted and so praised after doing all of that? While our institutions are fundamentally corrupt and they reward behavior like this if you're in the right clubs and hang out with the right people and that type of stuff doesn't bother them. We should be deeply destroyed with Americans that there is a major segment of very powerful elite actors that think that type of behavior is fine.

And if they get caught, nothing will happen to them. Exactly. That's actually scary. Yeah, but if you're like, I don't know, a kid in Florida and you get caught with a joint by the wrong cop. You know, but Woody Allen can molest two kids and it's fine, you know. I mean, I see.

There's just a huge double standard, you know. I think that's pretty clear. I'd be curious to know what you say about this. You know how people run for office and they run for, you know, president or whatever it is and they run on different issues, right? Build a wall. I'm with her. Obama care, affordable health insurance, like, you know, cost of insurance, you know, immigration, taxes, rich people, top 1%,

billionaires, all these things they run on. You think if somebody ran and they laid out their top 10 plan and, you know, one of the things in the top five is to investigate what's really going on with these issues. You think that would be something that would be a resonate with millions of Americans that they would wanna get to the bottom of this? Yeah, I think so, because even today,

despite all the mainstream media, like missing disinformation about stuff like Epstein, people are like, I'd really like to see that client list, you know? And I think that's the reason's the only reason they ended up going after Galein Maxwell was because at first, they were like, well, Epstein's dead, it's gone away. You know, people were like, but Galein Maxwell.

And I mean, that public concern didn't go away. A lot of these institutions feel like they have to maintain a public veneer that like, they do something about it even though they're not really doing much about it. But what concerns me is what happens when I mean the mask is almost totally off as far as like the FBI and DOJ is concerned. Right now what happens when it comes totally off and they don't even have to maintain that public veneer if we're an accountable, responsible institution that cares about democracy and the rule of law?

I'd be so curious to see if somebody runs on that. I'd be so curious to see if somebody runs on that. By the way, whoever runs on wanting to investigate, Epstein has to be somebody that doesn't need Wall Street money. Whoever runs on wanting to find that who's on the Epstein list can only do it if they don't take any money from Wall Street Which means it eliminates 95% of the can yeah Okay, by the way, you know who's on that list that doesn't need Wall Street money VVAC doesn't need Wall Street

Yeah, Trump doesn't need Wall Street money a couple of the guys don't need Wall Street money Everybody else needs Wall Street money He's a what he's like a 510 20 million auto guy a couple of the guys don't need Wall Street money. Everybody else needs Wall Street money. What about ArvK? He's a what? He's like a 5, 10, 20 million auto guy. He's gonna need some money. You know, he's already gone after Big Pharma. So that's a very big thing to go after. And now he's continually calling out the CIA

for killing JFK. Yeah, to me. Every day there's a new article written or a new clip of him saying, the CIA killed my uncle. I think he's another guy. I think he's a wild car, but I think he's another guy. I think he's another guy that, again, remember what, what for me?

If you did a book, the cover is have to page, Trump have to page Kennedy. Okay, John, what do those two families have in common? You just kind of go through it to see the good, the bad, the ugly, the corrupt, anything that you want to go investigate, the link to Kushner family, all this other family. If you see, whatever family didn't need money, is the family that typically cannot be controlled. Whoever can be moved by money, I mean, you realize, Biden's are doing what they're doing for a million dollar check? You realize how pathetic that is? You can buy Biden's for a million or ten million

dollars. You know what? Ten million dollars is to some of these guys. I would ten million dollars. I can buy your family for ten million bucks and the big man's gonna get the big guy's gonna get 10%. I think it's concerning to put somebody like that in power. So I do think there's a few people that will see what's gonna happen with that. What are your thoughts on that? Well, you know, when it comes to someone like Joe Biden, I think there's a clip of him that was going around

in the primary, he was saying something like, you know, I wanted to be a politician sooner, but I had to wait to be old enough so I could like sell out properly. Something like that. Who said this? Biden. But this was like in the long time ago. Yeah. And when he was much younger. You know, because apparently they want to take him seriously when he was too young or something and he had to wait. I don't know. I mean the American political system the way it has operated for decades, rewards behavior like that.

You know, and the problem is, how do we shift it away so it doesn't reward that behavior? And if you're looking at, like we mentioned earlier, the DNC is going to stop debate essentially to shoehorn Biden in after they've done two successive presidential primaries where they essentially committed fraud to keep the popular candidate out. How democratic is that? You know? And I mean, all this other stuff going on, all this funny games to try and like,

stop Trump or, you know, influence elections. I love this stuff. That's it. I love the fact that RFK's in it, not that you brought him up. I love the fact that VVex in it. I love the fact that Trump's in it, I love the fact that the Santas, even what he's doing right now with protecting the conservative values

and he's pissing a lot of people off. And I love the fact that Tulsi's also around, I hope Tulsi does something as well. There's enough people that are not afraid, by the way, Tulsi's going to be on the podcast this Saturday. Saturday. Saturday she's going to be on the podcast. So she's another person that's out there going out there and you know calling people out We need more people like that and they're from all sides RFK is running as a Democrat

You know It's all see I don't know what she's gonna be doing whether she runs as an independent or Republican She's also a necessary voice VVAC is sitting there taking a complete different angle on the ESG and the woke side You know and then Trump's doing what Trump is doing, DeSantis doing what he's doing, more of these voices exposing them. No, I'd be curious who's going to say specifically Epstein's list. Well, I don't know, but I think the more rhetoric

of raising awareness of what's going on, whether it's ESG or Epstein or whatever is important, because it's really, really, really important that a large enough percentage of the American public realizes something is seriously, seriously wrong. Because if we wait too long and people don't figure it out, things could get much worse than they necessarily need to be, you know? And I would just really hope that, you know, that's what my hope with the upcoming campaigns are of all of this with these different voices, a lot of whom are already coming out and being very, you know, anti-system, at least in the rhetoric.

And that speaks to the fact that a lot of people in the public are very hungry for that type of rhetoric. And so that does give me hope that people want a real change, not just like an Obama, hope and change, hope and hope of solution, you know, because that we found out later that this whole cabinet was picked by my like city group in Wall Street right after the O.A. crisis and stuff, you know, troubling stuff. Well, Whitney, first of all, it's always my sister. She's your her favorite guest. Because listen, you're her favorite guest. Like can we just have her on regularly every week? Folks, if you love today's podcast,

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