PBD Podcast - Wilder Times: Taxes, Tyson Fury, and Southwest Airlines | PBD Podcast | EP 95

Episode Date: October 12, 2021

In episode 95 of the PBD Podcast, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Adam Sosnick, Gerard Michaels, and Phil Heath to talk about topics such as countries agree to minimum corporate tax, businesses hirin...g anyone that will show up, Southwest Airlines cancels 1,800+ flights and much more!  Watch the full podcast: https://youtu.be/mq5RrlkSk9A. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We are officially live episode number 95 Phil heat just walks and come on and feel Come on and feel come on and feel We just rolls up making Make it interesting The the podcast you guys it over the weekend mistrolempia 200,000 people tuned in worldwide to listen to man I was amazing dude. We missed you Yeah, because we're thinking that you were gonna do a pose down Close down pose with Mario and and Roy let me tell you Roy did a good job Roy did a great job, you know, he was a
Starting point is 00:00:33 Former NPC competitor. He competed in an amateur show. Actually. It was one of my shows Don't make this about Roy. Please. Let's make it I did a good job as well make this about you and the competitors. It's all about muscle mat and over here. Let's do this. We've gotten more about the human body than we'll ever know. Shout out to Big Rami for winning. You know, shout out for Big Rami for winning.
Starting point is 00:00:52 And Brandon Curry looked a little bit pissed off because I think he thought he could have won it. And I like Curry's attitude. You know, Rami, that's back to back for him, which is cool to see that happen. That's huge. Was he the favorite? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:06 By far. Okay. Here was the favorite. He was. He lived up to expectations. He's two time Mr. Olympian. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I mean, shout out to big rami. You know, um, I've said this before, but, uh, after he won last year, I made sure that I told him you have to come in better because next year they're all kind of gunning for you. And it's always hard. That camera's blurry. It's always hard to defend. It's always hard to defend, right? You win one, but it's hard to defend.
Starting point is 00:01:34 So shout out to the Remy, but you know what? I'm happy that Brandon Curry showed a little disgust with this place. I like that. I like it too. You know, you shouldn't just be happy. Oh, I play second, is that? I love that. Nah, man, you should be pissed.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Nobody was more pissed than Hottie, man. Hottie was pissed at being third. You know, that's a look. I think Gernad Webcast, like we all thought that Hottie had a major chance. I believe even Sean Ray and Richie Sparry, while they were doing theirs, had Hottie as the most conditioned guy in the show.
Starting point is 00:02:04 And he was pretty complete It may have been a size issue, you know, because he was definitely given up I mean geez. Did you know that? That ramyun? You put up the picture sky just to see the top three, Mr. Olympia. Did you know that ramy weighed in at the press conference at 303? Wow, he was in a suit mind you, but I mean you're pushing 300 pounds 300 pounds the biggest ever to win it or no was Ronnie still big a big win it Ronnie was 2.95 And what were you when you want it oh gosh that heavy 60 no I probably looked too
Starting point is 00:02:37 60 but I was 248 wow okay so I mean you know Hathi is definitely on he's on the third he's on the far right yeah for anyone that doesn't know, Hathi is definitely on he's on the third he's on the far right. Yeah for anyone That doesn't know but Hathi gave like a really good argument as to being at least second in this, you know Because look at the quads, you know compare to everybody else. It's just more deep separation, but You know, I think when you do the quarter turns and you do all the other poses I can understand why the judges pick round me. I mean, he looks, he looks, he like dwarfs these, these massive men, the size of this guy. Who? The one in the middle?
Starting point is 00:03:08 The one in the middle. Yeah. That's big ramen for you. Yeah. That he officially changed his name to big ramen. That's his name. They called him that. So I met ramen like 11 years ago in Kuwait.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And he was just getting ready to turn pro, I believe. He's a gypsy, I want to see. Or yes. Or I think he just turned pro. I remember seeing him compete and I thought. I remember talking to Dennis James, I mean, I think he just turned pro. I remember seeing him compete and I thought, I remember talking to Dennis James, I go, this guy just turned pro, he's like, yes, I go. Okay, I gotta get back in the gym. This is a guy that definitely gets it together.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I mean, he's gonna be Mr. Olympia someday and he did it twice. So, congrats to Big Rami again. I know one phrase in Egyptian, because there was an Egyptian girl in high school that I was super into, so I learned a lot of a heavoc. Now, it's which I guess was a bastardization of like, I don't know. I know one phrase in Egyptian because there was an Egyptian girl in high school that was super into it. So I learned a lot of a heavoc. Now that's which I guess was a bastardization of like I love you.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I have no idea. Did it work? No, no. It actually means a complete difference. There's a reason I can believe it. It's here. But asshole is what it is. Alright, let's get into some stores.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Let's get into some stores. Okay, we got a lot of things to cover. Shapel got a lot of backlash for a couple of comments. He made John Grooten fired slash resignation. Phil's got a few comments. I thought some thoughts on that. Google will no longer allow climate deniers to make money on YouTube. Gas prices hit all time, Mahai, seven years.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Southwest Airlines cancels nearly 2,000 flights and they blame it on weather. They blame it a lot of the things, but they try to blame it on the rain, but it's definitely something else. Yeah, Tyson Fury went against Wilder. I thought it was a sick fight, man. I watched that fight. I was blown away. CNN comment was made unhinged, CNN, GOP, dumping anthrax in our water fox news is killing people that
Starting point is 00:04:46 was said by who Brian the human thumb Brian stelter yeah fantastic commentaries got there more than 130 countries reach deal on corporate minimum tax which is what we talked about a couple months ago Donald Trump will never be president ever again says renowned a poster Frank L Lundz, China's G vowels, peaceful unification with Taiwan days after sending a surge of warplanes near the island. The Blasio phase out, New York City gifted and talented program, and a few other stories
Starting point is 00:05:15 that we got here. But I say we start off with the Blasio story. So the Blasio to phase out, if you wanna go to page nine, page nine, the Blasio, New York City, they just wanna make that city better and better to attract more people to move there so the blasio to phase out new york city gifted and talented programs this is a new york time story
Starting point is 00:05:33 he on friday in valo plan to overhaul gifted and talented education new york city elementary schools calling for sweeping changes to highly selected program that has been widely criticized for exas criticized for exacerbating segregation in the nation's largest school system. The mayor's action attempt to address what the city has known for decades. It's gifted and talented program has controlled to racially segregated classrooms and schools for thousands of students nationwide, citywide. The Blasio has criticized for not taking forceful action to fulfill his promise of tackling inequality in public
Starting point is 00:06:04 schools. The announcement comes just three months before he must leave office because of term limits, putting the fate of the plan in the hands of his successor, Adam, thoughts. So let me get this straight. He just wants everyone in the New York City school system just to be in regular classes.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, no matter what. Is that what it is? So as someone who has taken regular classes, something called academic excellence, I've been in honors classes and I've been AP classes. For anyone that's ever been in school, knows that's a huge frickin' difference. To give you a case example,
Starting point is 00:06:35 I was by far and away at the smartest person in regular classes when I took them. And I was by far and away the dumbest person in AP classes when I took those classes. So I had to like find my bearings. I had to figure out like, I was actually pretty good at history. I couldn't read so good so I had to get into regular like the fact that you're just going to lump everyone.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Are you saying you wish? It's a one class. Are you saying you wish you would have never taken any AP classes so you wouldn't have felt inferior. No, no, no. It's you got to understand that bottom line is I think this is a horrible idea. so you wouldn't have felt inferior. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no went from regular class to APN honors, what did you feel as a student? Well, look, when I was in regular classes, so I went from public school my whole life,
Starting point is 00:07:34 and then I got a scholarship, so I was in private school last year, so they just kind of were like, you did good in public school, we're gonna throw you in honors classes, all across the board at a school called Miami Country Day and Miami, and it's kind of like a Westminster. It's a good school and I realized oh shit We had a HFUN guy over that's extremely successful in Greenwich and they were trying to put their kids in Miami Country
Starting point is 00:07:56 They and they were raven about the school great school. Yeah, I'm very like lifelong contacts great But the point is this I realized very quickly. I was good at some stuff and not good at other stuff, and then I went down to regular, and the bottom line is this, I don't understand this idea. Kids work their asses off to excel in school. Now you're gonna have super, super smart kids just sitting there literally dumbfounded being in regular classes.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I think this is a horrible idea. So basically, are they saying that the curriculum will not be AP? Is that what we're saying? Yeah, I get it. Apparently, making it easier, making it easier for you to not feel inferior to others who are, so they don't want us to compete. And I think that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And I think essentially, that's wrong. So if you put yourself in the, like, let's look at both sides of the coin. Who are the kids that are like, I feel, you know, inferior, I feel like I'm being a non-included in the smart kid. So I protect my feelings and put everyone in my class. That's that kid, I guess, or they're probably not even a kid. They're parents, I would assume. Now think about the kid that's like, look, I'm working my freaking ass off here. I read every single night. I'm strategizing. I'm improving my kids. my parents have raised me right,
Starting point is 00:09:06 and now you want me to go to the just regular class, how does that help me, how does that get me AP credits? I actually, it's a college. Here's what I'm thinking about. Which kid actually wants this? Like, look, I'm the other kid, right? I'm the kid at the bottom of the, what do you call it? Like, you know how you say?
Starting point is 00:09:24 I'm at the bottom of the regular class. Yeah, exactly. Like, you know how you say? I'm at the bottom of the regular class. So like, like you're saying you were the best in the regular class, I'm the bottom of the regular class. You're not excelling. So I wonder if they did this, would this make me feel more confident, would this make me feel more special, would this make me feel more like, oh my gosh, thank you so much for doing this because I was feeling
Starting point is 00:09:42 very weak. I don't even think those kids are hair. I don't know, but go and think about. Do those kids even care? You're still gonna grade on a curve, right? That's the kids still gonna get a deer and a half. You say that? Gerard and I both wrote this.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Exactly, I just wrote it just now. Yeah, they're gonna still the smart kids. They're gonna get A's. Yeah, we're gonna be, they're gonna not. Yeah, we're gonna be, it goes beyond that guys. I mean, what's happening here is, you know, the white savior complex, this is, you know, the white savior complex, this is, you know, the white liberal activist
Starting point is 00:10:08 who's, you know, she's in class and she's the teacher and she's like, well, if every kid just had the resources that these kids in the AP class said, they all have the same capacity. They're, they are completely and totally incapable of seeing differences between human beings. They're incapable in seeing that some people may excel in A and not excel in B.
Starting point is 00:10:29 All it is is access to opportunity and the resources and we'll all be exactly the same. We'll create nothing but a land of square pegs and square holes, it's nonsense. I mean, really what it comes down to is it shows what education, public education specifically in this country is, man, it's an indoctrination camp. It has nothing to do with education.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Has nothing to do with improving the intellectual capacity of our next generations. In fact, I'd argue that they are putting obedience ahead of education. All they want to do is herd these people into classes and indoctrinate them politically on what they should think They don't teach people how to think anymore, which is really all AP classes do AP classes now you're talking about logic Now you're talking about philosophy now you're talking about they are rude. Yeah opportunities Did you take AP I did do took AP yes, okay? So okay, I'm assuming you not all not all well you do take honors in AP class Here's the difference all All right. In regular history class, they teach you what happened in AP history, they ask you why it happened.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And that is the difference. That's the major difference. Okay. The major difference is this is what happened on these dates, regurgitate this, get it, get it right on the test. So our school can get money from the state. There you go. In go. In AP, you're already graded on a higher curve, you can have a 5.0 instead of a 4.0. So a B student in AP is still a 4.0 student. So they already get the money from the state, and it's a small amount of students that you don't get into this, is that other side of the bell curve. But they ask you, these are the people that they start asking questions, why? And I feel like in this environment, not to be crazy conspiracy theory,
Starting point is 00:12:11 these people do not want kids learning how to ask the question, why? They do not want a generation of people asking, why this is happening, why we're doing things this way. They want people that understand obedience above all else. Well, this is just the New York City. It's not. It's the first dominoe. It's the start. It's the first dominoe to fall. I mean, you think you think you think other school systems across the country are going to implement this in mass. How about this?
Starting point is 00:12:37 The fact that Harvard was caught by having completely different admission standards predicated on our nationality. Yeah, Asian kids, white kids, and then By having completely different admission standards Predicated on the nationality. Yeah, it Asian kids white kids and then everybody else after that right where That you had you had to score so remarkably higher than other people to get in all right the social stratification man Like I again it goes back to everything and we're talking about and also on a side note build of Luzio first mayor In 100 years to not have a professional sports team with a championship in New York City. I don't think that that is,
Starting point is 00:13:10 look, it's an interesting coincidence, but it goes again, like excellence is not something that they want. And it's amazing that whenever we're talking about equality, whenever we're talking about inclusion, it's never about lifting people up. It's always about ripping people down. Of course, they're trying to get everybody to instead of,
Starting point is 00:13:27 okay, he's this way to put it, we want you all to blend in with each other instead of stand out. You should also have standouts. So what you're saying is they encourage these people fan their flames, push them, push them, push them because you don't want to be the stumble bum is what we would say back in, you know, my day,
Starting point is 00:13:44 you know, which means like you're going gonna be one on the corner doing stupid shit Well, pal I mean I see you definitely got to focus on these things because it's very imperative that and what about the kids that want to excel Mm-hmm and get college credit while they're in high school my younger brother did that He was five-thay to cap a at 16 years old. So he was exceptional right who's pushing for this? Well, should there be varsity sports? I mean, what's the next logical? For everyone just...
Starting point is 00:14:07 Should there be varsity sports? Just get the nerd getting pummeled by a jarard in high school? That's not fun. But I'm just saying, varsity is AP sports, right? I mean, why, if everything is gonna be exactly the same, then why isn't everything exactly the same? Why isn't only about these,
Starting point is 00:14:24 this is where my spidey sense has started to ting same? Why isn't only about these, this is where my spider sense is start to tingle. Why is it only about dumbing down and indoctrinating the future? That's where I start to say, man, there's something here. Is this an effective strategy? Is this an effective strategy, though? So let's just say that is your outcome. Let's just say that's your outcome
Starting point is 00:14:38 and you're trying to dumb them down. Do you think, okay, so do you think the guy that's gonna make it out is gonna make it out? Do you think the guy that's gonna be a standout is gonna be a standout? You can't do nothing to them. I think that their argument, their argument is that we're not gonna divert the resources to a small section of people. We're gonna give those resources to everybody. No, but I'm not asking you that. What I'm asking you is, do you think the guy that's gonna make it is gonna make it?
Starting point is 00:15:03 Whether they do this or not. I think what's gonna happen is Toofold you're gonna have people like Adam said that are so bored in these classes that they check out and you're gonna have people that the Conversation is so high above them that they check out So I think that you're gonna have an opportunity really for Khan Academy or some secondary educational school where auto Diodex are going to have to seek out auto diodex Auto auto diodex people that study under on their self-cod their self-educated They're gonna have to seek out their own their own path. Yeah, and it's gonna happen on both ends
Starting point is 00:15:35 You know, I got a buddy of mine. Jamie Dernan one of my one of my best friends in the world He was never dumb, but he was always missing. He was just disinterested in school Just disinterested never wanted to do anything Only one dude was talking to chicks the whole time. If it wasn't for sports, he would have never gone to class at all. Then he goes to college and something clicks and he's like, you know what, man, I gotta get my shit together.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Now the dude's got an NBA and he works at Fitch. Like, he's crushing it. But similar to yourself, if he got a 2.0 GPA in high school, it was a lot. Like, he just didn't care. You know what I'm saying? So, in this environment pushing him along might work for a guy like Jay,
Starting point is 00:16:08 because he doesn't get left behind. But in these, correct me if I'm wrong, every class is different. Like I said, I was in dumb math, but in smart history, what have you? Everyone excels at different things. Like, you talk to my good and math was, math was, I was good up until a certain point
Starting point is 00:16:24 that when you started throwing trigonometry and geometry I'm like I'm out. This is this is did you take math analysis? I Don't recall if I took that I crushed it normal stuff like additions of traction multiplication and then when they started throwing Accent agree and the room and all the stuff different true equations. I was always like the class con I was like you know we're never gonna use this shit like I was that kid in the back room like why are we doing this? Can I just go like play football? But the point is that some people excel in certain classes some people don't So if you're gonna put everyone in the same class same thing like that in itself
Starting point is 00:17:00 Whether it sports whether it's a woodshop all right, we're all doing it whoever does, you know, but in each class, each subject to put everyone in the teacher's team. They have a hard time. They have a hard time. They have a hard time. The teacher was more important than the curriculum. The teacher, if the teacher made it interesting,
Starting point is 00:17:15 if the teacher made it, you know, the material engaging, then everybody was involved. Like, whether or not we were good at math or liked math, it depended on the teacher. I had a teacher that made math into money and baseball statistics and we were all in it. Totally good. But then we had another teacher who was like,
Starting point is 00:17:32 sit there, shut up and read the book. And nobody wanted to do it. So let's go back to it. So the question is, will this do anything to the guy that's gonna make it anyways? Does this affect the standout guy? I think it does. You think so?
Starting point is 00:17:45 You always hear these talented people. We always hear it in sports, but it could be in academics as well. These talented people that something went wrong, they didn't make it. I fully agree with them. I fully agree with them. You guys know the story of Nick Boleteri.
Starting point is 00:17:58 You know Nick Boleteri, the tennis coach. Yeah, the tennis coach. I'm good. Yeah, of course. Do you know who he is? Like, have you met him? Yes, yes. He's in town south florida he's a south florida he's a teach all okay all my friends so let me tell you who this guy is how do you describe him he's can his students his students any of the students that went
Starting point is 00:18:15 to his camp how many champion how many grand slams you think they want all his students that have crushed it 180 grand slam winners came out 180 total grand slams he coached his game your family member on the agressive and raggedy was his phenom anyway so there's a story there's a documentary about the sky there's a documentary about the sky where he's uh... coaching players right and he's the coaching jimmy conners and he's coaching the aggocene they're going back and forth the story then goes to a
Starting point is 00:18:41 story of a two girls that he was coaching one of the girls has come up and she's crushing it. She's kicking ass, 11 years old. She's gonna be the youngest, to go out and compete. All the stuff that's taking place with her. And then all of a sudden, the father comes up and the father says, Nick, I want you to drop everybody because the father was a very, very rich like billionaire
Starting point is 00:19:00 and he says, I want you to drop everybody. I just want you to coach my daughter. He's like, I can't do that. I've got 100 kids here. It's not my business model. He's like, I can't do that. I've got 100 kids here. It's not my business model. He's like, I'll pay you whatever you want. He says, you don't understand. That's not my business model.
Starting point is 00:19:11 He says, I will pay. How much you make money? I'm gonna make you this way. I don't want the money. I want to coach the kids. Anyways, the pops gets pissed. He says, I'm outta here. So he leaves.
Starting point is 00:19:19 The daughter is telling the story. The girl that could have been a, she says, when my dad took me, he says, don't worry about it. We'll go find another coach. They go to another coach, lower standards, they go to another coach, low standard, the dad kept telling the daughter, don't worry about it, this guy's good for you, this guy's good for you, this guy's good for you. The girl's like, I eventually became a nobody. If I were to stay with Nick, I would have been a top three, right? And the whole story with Nick is standards and expectation. High, high standards and expectation. People rise up, agacy, courier,
Starting point is 00:19:45 cellists, what do you call the, the sisters, all of those guys went through him, right? What's the moral of the story here? Drop the standards, I believe the 12%. To me it goes back to the same thing. The 12% that has what it takes to dominate, but they don't get the right challenge. They're not pushed, they're not challenged to do more.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Somebody's not tough on it with the expectations. I you're going to lose that 12%. So I think this actually affects. I agree. I agree. I totally believe that. I don't think it's just teachers because remember, even Nick wasn't the one that was teaching everybody.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Nick had 40 teachers that were teaching. I think it's a system of standards. Yes. I think it's a system of standards. Yes. I think it's a set of standards and protocols. When you have a certain set of high expectation and standards, one of two things going to happen to you. Here's what happens. You're either going to respond to it,
Starting point is 00:20:35 or you're going to hate this guy forever. They keep telling stories of two people, two guys and two girls. Agacy and Jimmy Conners, right? Agacy was his phenom. Guess who's the only person that didn't want to do an interview on this documentary? Agacy's the phenom. Guess who's the only person that didn't want to do an interview on this on this documentary? Agacy is the only guy that refused to do the interview. All the other people agreed to do it.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Why wouldn't Agacy do it? Who didn't do well with him is the people that hated High Standards. Agacy hated it and the Southern girl hated it, but Jimmy Connors loved it. So Jimmy Connors won eight grand slams. The people that like high standards, I responded to it. When you have high standards and expectation, this is what you produce. This is always going to happen. What is the most annoying thing about a great example? When it's right. What's the most annoying thing about having a leader that's got a great example? It's a great, freaking example. It sucks. It absolutely sucks because you're like, the hell with you so much pressure, I don't want to have to live up to this expectation,
Starting point is 00:21:29 but what's the best thing about having a guy like that? He can push you. But regardless, not everybody's going to fit to those standards. You're still going to produce some people that are going to be resenting it and coming out and saying, you know what, screw you, I hate that teacher. Everybody had that one coach that later on they hated, but deep down inside they're like, fuck, mother. Yeah, yeah. You know, that guy really had me, he had really challenged me. We all have that, right?
Starting point is 00:21:53 I think this is a, this is a travesty what they're doing to the kids there because there could be a few phenoms that we're going to find out about 10, 20, 30, 40 years from now that we're probably going to lose. But I still think that there's a small percentage of people, put them at one percent, two percent, small percentage, they're going to figure out a way to kill them. With the law of unintended consequences, something all these commies refuse to admit exists, man.
Starting point is 00:22:16 All it's gonna take now is that wealthy people, or even middle class people, I'm gonna put their kids into private school, where you could have had your kids communicating, networking, learning from these other people who were gifted and then rise picking each other up, like you're talking about. Now what you're gonna have is you're gonna have this,
Starting point is 00:22:33 again, this four social stratification, this segregation where it's like, I can't have my kid in the school, I can't have my kid in the school. And the wealthy people are already putting their kids in private school. Or you're working for it. But part of the reason why, but again, we're thinking you're not wealthy, you're not from a wealthy family. But you're thinking, you're not working for it. But part of the reason why that, but again, we're thinking you're not wealthy.
Starting point is 00:22:46 You're not from a wealthy family. But you're thinking, you're not a scholarship. No, no, no, no, of course. What I'm trying to say is, I don't want to lose you. But you're someone I don't want to lose. The guy that has a fiend on, the guy that needs somebody to challenge him, because he'll respond to it. In Manhattan, they've already been in private schools.
Starting point is 00:23:03 But in Queens, they haven't been in Staten Island, they haven't been in Brooklyn. A lot of parts of Brooklyn, they're not. You got Lincoln, Lafayette, you got some, I mean, this is what you're sitting tax, like is anybody ever trying to implement this? Well, what happens is they, what they tried to do,
Starting point is 00:23:20 which was probably wrong in the other direction is that they had like gifted schools where they took the entire like gifted student pop magazines, and then they put them in gifted schools, which probably wasn't right in its own right, right? But I just, look, I just, on an overall level, and there's somebody that, you know, is way more in depth, waiting for Superman was a phenomenal documentary. The Superman? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 You heard about what happened to Superman yesterday? Yeah, I did. Yes. Superman's son is bisexual. Yeah, yeah. I mean, good for him. I didn't say that. I'm more concerned with DC making it so that you're
Starting point is 00:23:57 a sexual boss. Yeah, I saw it this morning, actually. What do you guys think about it? What's Superman? David, let me ask Superman DC comics coming out. The next Superman son is a bisexual Superman. That's coming out soon. He's bisexual.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Like in the comic world? Like a bisexual socialist. And a real Superman son. Yeah, in the comic world. I don't know, like if you're talking about Dean Kayn or whoever, I don't know. No, no, no. The story like the DC.
Starting point is 00:24:21 The comic story that they see. The DC universe. Superman's son is bisexual. Good for him. What do you think about that? I think it story, like the DC, that they've seen you in the universe. Superman's son is by sex for him. What do you think about that? I think it's lazy. It doesn't bother me that he's bisexual. It doesn't bother me, it bothers me socialists.
Starting point is 00:24:33 But I mean, it doesn't bother me, he's bisexual. The, I don't know. I can tell you. The, look, I know people that are bisexual. I know people that are gay. If they feel somehow edified by this, good for them, I just think it's lazy. Why don't make your own superhero,
Starting point is 00:24:47 make your own story, the constant retconning of these cultural icons, and listen, they are doing it on purpose. So when they act like, how are you getting mad? Because you wanted people to get mad. Superman's a Jesus allegory. Superman was a way to sell Jesus to a new sense of, he's Jesus.
Starting point is 00:25:04 If you look at the, if you look at Jack Snyder's bat at Superman, right? I mean, he literally has him being resurrected with his feet crossed and his arms. It's a Jesus allegory. It's the most obvious Jesus allegory since the major, right? So I mean, the fact that they know this and then they went out of their way in the press conference,
Starting point is 00:25:23 the way they were like we just we knew having another white male straight white male savior would have been a missed opportunity and it's like okay so then you did it on purpose like you know he's not gay he's bisexual apparently no so the picture won't you pull it up to see the picture I mean the guy job is how is he not already you tell tied to type A he he types B? Just sleep over there. It's a great post, PVD podcast. Shout out to the audience. Shout out to PVD podcast.
Starting point is 00:25:51 You said that, superman. He typed him bad. He typed him bad. Unbelievable. Well, I gotta see this picture, because I got actually. Go to images. There it is, right there.
Starting point is 00:26:01 There's Rick and Guy. There it is. Okay, let me say something. I know women that are bisexual, meaning they're into dudes, they're into chicks. I don't know any dudes that are bisexual. If you're asking some D, you're gay. That's it. There's no, there's no middle ground. Well, you know, I have some time to time. I'll jerk a guy off, but no, I think I'm gonna go out No, it's it's done. I'm sorry. You do that. I know I'm in the chick. That's it. Oh, I thought you said from time to time
Starting point is 00:26:34 I'm putting my foot if you're gay God bless you all good. I've got gay friends You're gonna make a good one. You want to say from 11 years. 11 years from now. 11 years. Again, I know a lot of gay people, they're cool. I'm friends with gay people, Miami Beach, South Beach. They're everywhere. I'm friends with them.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Some of my good friends are gay. See them out all the time. Say what's up? I'm with you. None of them are doing home with girls. I'm with you on this regard. Why be so lazy? You could create a whole new series of different characters.
Starting point is 00:27:04 You're doing it specifically to piss people off. They're doing it to piss people off. Why be so lazy you could create a whole new series of different characters. Specifically the piss people off. They're doing it to piss people off. So I go from not being pissed off to just do I care. Yeah. DC Comics is the founder DC Comics. I don't know. Who is there?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Is this a Stanley project or no? No, it's not Stanley. It's a lot of Marvel. So who's DC Comics is? Frank Miller is the big is the big army Frank Miller is the Go to DC Comics right there with Kapitia go to the bottom. Yeah, just type on. Let's see who it is So Malcolm Wheeler 87 years ago found about it. So you know national was on Malcolm Wheeler go go come Malcolm Malcolm Wheeler
Starting point is 00:27:40 This is like the black Superman thing. Like go a little lower guy. I'm not at all. But it would it. It's just lazy. Like just so if I was a black Superman, you know, I'm just like, you kind of are. Yeah, it's close to Superman's against. Thank you, dude. I just can't fly yet.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Huh? Just can't fly you. A little higher. I'm like, it's very vision. Have you tried? You got to make the leap, bro matrix bro. You gotta make the leap. I don't know man. It doesn't just feel lazy.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I just feel like I'm saying it. It does feel like. Trying to order to sell you something. I think when something like, it's like, I don't think it sells the gay people. I think the guy that we had on from Facebook who is part of the LGBTQ community, he himself said that on Facebook, they're trying really hard to influence young
Starting point is 00:28:28 kids to be part of the community. So, you know, if that is the strategy, let's just say that's the strategy and we're the marketing from the hired, great strategy, good for you. He doesn't like that, right? He did not like that. Even though he's part, he doesn't like the fact that you're trying to... Manipule kids. Yeah, and so Gatsaw, the Gatfather, you know, he doesn't like the fact that you're trying to manipulate kids. Yeah, and so Gatsaw, the Gatfather, you know, when he and I were,
Starting point is 00:28:49 we got to get him on here, we got to figure out a day to get him on. Parasitic mind, what in the back looks of it? Yeah, so when I had him on and we were talking about the whole LGBT, I said, do you think the TV shows and everything is influencing kids to become a part of the, can we say it's not at all? I said, let's look at some stats. So we went to the stats last 30, 40 years, and you can tell, 20 years ago was 1%,
Starting point is 00:29:09 LGBT today's 5%. That was literally what I wanted to find out. You're saying 5% in the last 20 years? Yeah, in the last 20 years, it's increased from 1% to 5%. That falls under the LGBT, too. By the way, I think they've added new letters. Yeah, they gotta stop it, P, though. I think we can all agree on that BLB GBT
Starting point is 00:29:27 Whatever you want to be I think there was like a P is the prop high in there at one point Yeah, I'm not even like like guy pull up LGBT like there's three new letters I just pointed a game a BCD is 26 letters. Yeah, what else? And I'm I think PB P LGB T PBB And I think PB P LGB TPPB QIA plus in there there is you're right you're right. You're right. Let's be gonna buy say transgender
Starting point is 00:29:53 QIA what does LG get click on that By sent your transgender I'm the only one with the second one click on the second one. No, nobody else has cat ears What the that's click on that one. Okay, let's be in gay bisexual trans. You enter questioning queer intersex, pansexual. All right, this is too much. I'm confused. And, and, and, respect to all you guys.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Okay. But like if I'm a gay person, now I gotta be in between everything and, I'm telling you right now. Didn't Dave Shepard do any of these? And you'll come on there. You wanna be with a consenting adult With the children is where that shit is a hard line. Yes, where hard class where Kevin Spacey came out
Starting point is 00:30:32 And they were like hey, man. Are you with a 15 year old dude? He's like, you know what you're right I Decide to live my life outwardly as a gay man and the whole world is like cool But what about the 15 exactly like that? That's all we're talking about here man What about the interact the drag stuff at night? No, you know with the kids no Hard no live your life. Yeah, it's age. I love it. Love is does matter. Age. You know age doesn't matter Yeah, it does it let's just I mean, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:31:05 You, look, whatever you do with a consenting adult, God bless. By the way, God bless. I just had, I just had the, one, what was his name? One Pablo Valdez. Am I saying, Jorge, Pablo Valdez, which from 77 to 80,
Starting point is 00:31:18 he was a number one cocaine dealer in the world, Kai. Jorge Luis. Jorge Luis. Valdez. Jorge Luis Valdez from Cuba that moves to Miami, gets his degree, then one of his clients that's a market that they have every month, he's depositing $500,000, and how do you have this kind of money?
Starting point is 00:31:36 Says, listen, we don't do this kind of stuff. This is just this stuff that we have to hide. We have a cocaine business. And back then, he was killing it. He made like $60 million. He's 21 years old Cooking cowboys as a documentary about the guy So I said what was it like being in Cuba? It's just in Cuba. He says you know you couldn't believe in God You could not believe in God. Why couldn't you believe in God?
Starting point is 00:31:55 You know the whole concept of communism you can't believe in God state is God the state is God the whole concept with Hitler was what you cannot believe in God It's it's who it's I am your God, right? Hitler is your God. And Dietrich Bonhofer wrote about this. You know probably the story of Dietrich Bonhofer. It's a great story. Kai, that's another book you got to wrap up with Dietrich Bonhofer. So this guy stood up to Hitler and Hitler couldn't stand this guy.
Starting point is 00:32:18 What he was doing. The moment you, if you really want to control the populace, the first thing that's got to go is believe in in a higher power. The moment you get rid of that, you don't believe you can go fight a bigger opponent, okay? And this book, Naked Communist, written by Clion Scouson, which was a 15 year CIA agent. And he wrote about a certain steps. One of them was indoctrination of the LGBTQ overly. Listen, we all know somebody that's getting the family. Everybody has somebody and you're like, yeah, listen. out of certain steps. One of them was indoctrination of the LGBTQ overly.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Listen, we all know somebody that's getting the family, everybody has somebody and you're like, yeah, listen, I've known since you were, I don't know, you've been like this for a long time. So it's not like it's, you know, it's like, what's up, it's cool, no problem, right? Everything's fine. But the overly of trying to get you to question those thoughts
Starting point is 00:33:01 of how do you know, maybe what if not, what if this, you're starting to see some of those things one of the things is faith get people to stop believing in God because once faith has gone people don't believe they can fight against the system this is the other one there's a lot of different things that they're going through as well everybody's equal there's like 25 steps they're going through gradually this is taking place last night we're having dinner we were at the Casa de Angelo and Angelo showed up which was very nice and he made the elk.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Would you have the bison last night? Yeah. Who had the elk? A couple people had elk. Could you also have elk? No, I had the soup of the peasant. I gave you a little bit of the elk. The elk was really good.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Really good, yeah. So anyways, so we're there. We're talking about all this stuff. And the conversation with our friend that was there who got really interesting at the end. We talked about briefly about this, but this one, the topics I brought up. And I have my research and pull things up.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I'm curious, you know about this. I'm gonna ask Kai and the other guys, you don't get to say anything to the variant, because we talked about this. I wanna see what this guy's gonna say. I'm convinced, and you tell me if you agree with us or not, Kai. You too, David, you too. I'm convinced we are born conservative or liberal. I'm convinced you're born left or right.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I'm convinced you're born with left tendencies or right tendencies. I believe majority the population is born on those two sides. Let me explain. I'll give you my argument and please trash the argument. And folks, I want you to trash this argument as well as we're going through. Tell me if you agree with us or not. So, for example, I had a friend of mine who married a girl who was a full-on socialist. We go to dinner together.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And I'm listening to her. I couldn't understand like she was out of this world, completely like AOC's, the greatest, all this stuff. Rich people are this, capitalism sucks, all the carabot is money, nonstop she's going. And I paused, I said, can I ask you a question? She said, yeah, I said, what was your favorite subject in high school? She said, uh, uh, art.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I said, what else? Journalism. What else? Music. So how do you feel about, uh, math? Oh, I hate math. Really? Why do you hate math?
Starting point is 00:35:04 I just, I've never liked math. It always came hard to me. And from the moment I started taking math, it made me feel like I'm dumb, it made me feel like I'm not smart, I've just never liked math. Got it. For the last 10 years, I've been asking people this question, who's on the left, who's on the right, how they are would math. It's not always right, but about 70% of time,, 80% of the time, it's right. You'll notice most people that are right brain will lean left. A lot of people that are left brain will lean right, right? But then there is a small populace, okay, which is like, you know, in America today, there's
Starting point is 00:35:37 a percentage of Americans, you cannot make them vote right. There's nothing you can do about it. It's about 44%. Right? You can say whatever you want to say They're not going to vote Republican. Okay. There's 42% that no matter what you say to them They're not going to vote Democrat. That's just kind of what you're dealing with then you got a little bit of the the whole thing We talk about with what you call a libertarian libertarian independent
Starting point is 00:35:57 Those four if I would you're really dealing with what 10 or 12% right? I Think 12% of America kids are born not just America kids are born 12% kids are born and 12% of America kids are born, not just America, kids are born, 12% kids are born, and those are the ones that are kind of like, well, I kind of see what you're saying. It's a good point. Let me see what he has to say. You know what, Gerard, you made a good point. Phil, I don't know. I agree with him now, but Gerard, he just said something, huh, let me kind of weigh this out. They're malleable. I think there's about 12% that's malleable. If you are able to, whoever converts that 12% the best, that party wins. So this isn't about fighting
Starting point is 00:36:32 somebody that's never going to switch. Left or right. This is about finding that 12% of reasonable people that are willing to sit there and say, here's my argument. What do you think? Well, pal, what do you think? I read one time in the article said this. Well, here's what I think about this. Why disagree with you? Cool. Let's go back and for have banter I'm convinced people are born left and people are born right and the goal is to find that 12% that's Malibu that you can shift their thinking and let them have that debate to make a decision for themselves What do you think? How many of those 40% on either side believe they're in that 12% from hearing this? How many the 40% how many of those 40% on either side believe they're in that 12% from hearing this? How many of the 40%?
Starting point is 00:37:08 How many of the 40% unswabable on either side? Oh, they know. No, they know. They know. They're in that 12%. Let me put it to this way. The group that knows they're not as a group that says, Pat has no clue what the hell he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:37:20 But there's a group that's listening to this that's saying, I can't say this to anybody. I can't admit to it. It's definitely I cannot admit to anybody. But I've got to tell you lately, I've been kind of questioning some of this shit, it's like not making any sense. Why the hell would you get rid of AP and honors program? Can tell me how that makes any sense. Why the hell would you fire this person?
Starting point is 00:37:36 Why the hell would you want to do this to taxes and change the incentives? Why the hell would you want to give people money to non-stop? I saw how my dad did that to my sister, my sister's now this. Yeah, I don't know if I'm, the stuff is starting to make sense to me. Like believe me, the 12% of the populace
Starting point is 00:37:50 is already questioning it on both sides. They're sending it on both sides. Challenges to be able to convert them. So if this is true, let's just say if this is true. If this is true, you know what this means? 88% of arguments are worthless. I do believe that. I do believe that. 88% of debates are worthless.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Did you understand what I said? If this is correct, so protect your energy. Big time. 88% is on waste of time. Are you saying this is exclusive in America or worldwide? No, no, worldwide. No, I think this is worldwide. And you're saying born.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I think you're born. Like how you're saying you're born gay, you're born straight. There's nothing. No, no, no, I think this is, this is worldwide. And you're saying born. I think you're born. Like how you say you're born gay, you're born straight. There's nothing. No, you know, it is nature versus nurture. You're saying this is completely, I'm not saying gay. I'm not saying gay. No, I'm saying giving an example. You're saying, I think so. You're saying you're born politically, left politically, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yes. I, I'm not buying it. Yeah. I mean, listen, I know you weren't gonna buy it. I know, well, I'll tell you why. I know you weren't gonna buy it. Like recently I had a conversation, this is, I mean, listen, I know you weren't gonna buy it. I know, well, I'll tell you why. I know you weren't gonna buy it. Like recently I had a conversation, this is what I was asking United States worldwide. So for instance, my sister loves Trump. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Love Trump. Same parent, same dad, same mom, love Trump. She couldn't tell you one policy. And she gonna lose her job for love and Trump or she's gonna be okay. This bitch hasn't worked in years. She's married to a wealthy dentist. Damn.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yeah, I said it. Um, bro, she's like, yeah. Sounds like Adam. He's just made his guess. Yeah, I don't know. What's funny is she's really talked about. She's like a communist dictator. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:39:18 That just, her husband's a wealthy dentist. Anyway, we're on fire today. She's a lot of Adam. I promise you, he loves you. I promise you, I promise you he loves you. I promise you love you. She's all right. I do love my sister. Do I like her? We'll see. But she loves her. Why don't you talk about it? Yeah, let's bring it off. Let's go out 10 minute die tribe. My family bring a couch here. Let the sky lay down for. No, that's your art. That's been. So another conversation I had recently was with a friend
Starting point is 00:39:46 of mine from Israel. And they were, obviously you see a lot of results that are happening with the vaccine, not to get to vaccine right now. But I said, who's hesitant in Israel taking the vaccine? And they go, oh no, it's a, it's a, it's a people on the left. I said, what?
Starting point is 00:40:03 They go, yeah, yeah, the people on the way left, they don't, they don't, they don't want to do anything with the vaccine. I said, what? They go, yeah, yeah, the people on the way left, they don't want to do anything with the vaccine. I said, hold on, let me get this straight. Because traditionally in the United States, it's not traditionally, like we've seen a lot of young male skewing right do not want to take the vaccine. A lot of African Americans will take it as well.
Starting point is 00:40:20 What's that? I'm just happy to have you. It's been a while right. And then, so they flipped it on me. They were like, yeah, you know, it's the people on the left highly educated. Just factors that you did not expect to hear. It's highly educated people here too, actually.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Questionably. No, no, it's one of five. We did it three podcasts. So the, so it wasn't a left. Bro, give me that red button. It like it flipped it. So the point is this, I'm not, I'm not understanding, like depending on where you're born,
Starting point is 00:40:49 depending on what country you're in, I think politics is completely different. I don't think just because you were born in the United States that you're automatically going to be on the left of the right. I'm not understanding why. So here's the question. Let me go a little bit later, deeper.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Okay. You have a seen a family, same mom and dad, four kids. One becomes a phenom crushes it. One just a regular government employee. One becomes a drug addict and one becomes a priest. You ever notice like, what the hell just happened to you? Same mom and dad, same environment, same upbringing
Starting point is 00:41:21 for different human beings. I think there's a part of your DNA where you're wired in a certain way, a big part of it is politically, because, because, so don't give me wrong, I have these other four issues that I had to, I made a video about this four years ago, I think it has to do with your upbringing, I think it has to do with your family, I think it has to do with your first person that took a liking into you and gave you a lot of love and you feel like there's a certain level of loyalty
Starting point is 00:41:43 to that person, whether that person's the left or right or rich or poor or whatever feel like there's a certain level of loyalty to that person with it, that person's the left, or right, or rich, or poor, or whatever it is, you kind of have that loyalty to that person. A person early on that was an influencer that you started reading up on, you're like, oh my gosh, I believe in this guy's philosophy. I think all that stuff has also a place to it and then I think it also has to do with,
Starting point is 00:41:58 if you had a bad experience with gun when you were, 16 years old, when you were little nephews or nieces saw a gun, that left it there, shot themselves. You're probably never gonna like that. This is all stuff that happens while growing up though. Sure, but I agree. But I still think there's a part of people where your wiring is to be one said, because there is no way a guy on the left
Starting point is 00:42:20 and a guy on the right, smart on both sides. They're smart on both sides. You know, left things, the right dummies, and the right things the people on the left are done. Night one of them are done. Then what is it with them? Because they're both very convicted and their beliefs. How did that happen? It's what they prioritize. So, you know, I tend to agree with you, but I also tend to agree with Adam. I don't think it's a left and right issue because politics are constantly evolving. I do think that there's a perclivity to either value intellect or emotion. I think that some people don't care whether or not
Starting point is 00:42:52 you're right as long as you make somebody feel good. You understand? Like there's some people that are like, I don't care if I'm right as long as that person feels good and comfortable with me. And then there's other people that are like, if that person can't be comfortable with the truth, the hell with them, right?
Starting point is 00:43:03 And that's that's definitely me. Yeah, if that person can't be comfortable with the truth, the hell with them, right? And that's you. That's definitely me. Right, yeah, you can ask the most of us just written about Peter Thiel, Contrarian, right, that you keep talking about. You know, maybe it's conform and non-conform. Maybe it's, it's agree and disagree. Maybe it's question and don't question.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Maybe it's that, but to me, there isn't element of some people that just say, oh yeah Maybe it's that, but to me, there isn't element of some people that just say, oh yeah, yeah, something that you have to be like. You have to be like, some people are just kind of like, but there's a part of that. Again, look at the creative side though. Creative is typically Hollywood is creative.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Left, you look at how the creative typically leans left, you look at the logic, typically leans right. You know what I'm saying about the country singers country singers are a lot of them that are right and they're all creative to point country singers that are what that are on the right yeah and then that goes to how they're raised and that goes to they're upbringing that goes to you know their
Starting point is 00:43:57 rituals and their values for the country and what they saw that goes to that part as well but that's a very small genre of the industry. Remember, I'm not saying this is 100%. I'm saying 70%. There's a 30% out to it. To your point, I feel like politics is almost like religion. I was born into a Jewish family.
Starting point is 00:44:17 We were doing Jewish practices, customs and traditions. If I happened to be, you know, my dad is a percentage Italian. If for whatever reason, he married an Italian woman, I would have born into a Catholic family. And I would have been a Catholic. I agree. And I agree. Like religion more than anything. It's around, you know, what you raised around. And that's what you're going to be. If I was sure. But think about this more than family, I believe. This is my point. This more validates my point. What percentage am I talking about? 10%. I said 10%.
Starting point is 00:44:46 90% of people, if your dad's a Christian, you're a Christian, if your mom is a Catholic, you're a Catholic, but there's a 10% that's kind of like, I have to figure this out for myself. You think it's only 10% that seems so, that seems so loaded. I don't, I think it's that small of a percentage. I think it's that small of a percentage.
Starting point is 00:45:01 The pretto theory is 80, 20, whether it's 10 or 20%, it's not a big number. I'm telling you right now, it is not a big number. Go back to your classroom and think about who was like, okay, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, yeah. And then think about some of the guys that are like, well, how about this? How about if we try this, come on with this? What about the, why do we do this? Why do this take place? What about that? What about this? There is the white person. I want to know more. Tell me, give me some depth in this, right? So that's not a big percentage. How do you have massive cultural changes?
Starting point is 00:45:28 Like, how does slavery end if that's the case? How do things evolve? How does it end? Yeah, because somebody questioned it. So one of that 10%, one of that 10% comes out. Of course. And then they are able to convert. Well, go back to solitude.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Go back to our meaning. Go back to genococides go back to any of these events that took place Man like when you're in it. You don't even know when you're in it. You're thinking there is no out But there is a 10% small percentage that has faith that this can change and they're willing to stand up Slavery stop because of who does that 10% what happens? That other question. Let me ask that other question let me ask you question let me ask you question let me ask you question this is not no conspiracy theory it's just a question I'm about to ask you okay so don't flip out here folks who are you know this is just a question the cause of Lincoln's death the doctor Abraham Lincoln the cause of Lincoln's death you know at the fourth theater everyone's been there you've seen okay
Starting point is 00:46:28 What was a cause is it just a black and white cause? No, it was a series of events. Okay, the the the The security guard leaving his post, you know, John Wilkes Booth Obviously the conspiracy shooting and then a lot of people think that Lincoln could have somehow survived that the the doctor might have actually Accelerated his death too. Well okay fine let go put a percentage on it. You think people like the fact that he stood up as a Republican against those who liked slavery? No literally half the nation left. Okay so that's the point there. Look at this guy who's a president who could have easily said yeah let's just go one more. I'm not going to be the guy let Grant be the one that fights for some like this. This guy stood up for it.
Starting point is 00:47:06 How many people would have done that? Not a lot of people. Most people passed a buck, right? That's a 10% community. The 10% community is not, believe it or not, it's the 10% that has to courage to stand up and talk about stuff that others don't want to talk about. What happened last night when we're talking to this guy?
Starting point is 00:47:20 I don't want to say anything because that's his business. What did he say? I just, you know, I live in California, you saw where it was, living in California, and, you know, we were talking politics. I'm going to go for fucking, you know, Biden's, you know, flip side loop. All of a sudden he went from zero to pissed off. He was like this the entire time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Composion. Then next thing, you know, boom, right? And we're like, and you live in California? Yeah. What the, what the hell just happened right now? The last five minutes. The cost of his business. Flipped sound, cost of his business.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Of course, the cost of his business. But guess what he says? Yeah, I don't want to do the social media stuff because they come after you. That's 90%. Yep. That's 90%. Because who the hell wants that?
Starting point is 00:47:59 The past the buck. I'm a past the buck. You try to do, no, no, no, I'm a past the buck. Now I'm gonna pass the buck. They don't want the pressure. I think the 10% of people who have the audacity to question are the ones that are gonna save you Man, this goes all the way back to our initial conversation about the kids You start reducing that percentage you get the least amount of leaders that actually want to speak up and speak out and do shit
Starting point is 00:48:21 There's in the by the way. There's nothing like look, right now, I'm the host at this show. I'm presenting this, you guys are disagreeing. I'm not offended. This is how it's supposed to be. This is how we're learning. This is how we go back and forth. Then I'm finding leaks in my argument and saying, well, like, I got a bunch of paper sitting on my desk
Starting point is 00:48:37 to go look at. This is how discourse takes place, right? Well, you get better. This is how it is with the kids as well. This is a conversation, but I think the 10% are gonna like us I don't think the 90% the audience likes us to be honest with you I think I think if you parted 90% community I guy said this the other day on a Twitter he tweeted this I don't know if you guys saw this or not he said something to me the other day and I
Starting point is 00:49:01 retweeted and I responded to him he said know, I don't know what to make of you, Pat. Oh, did you see that? I was talking to him. I saw that. He says, he says, one minute, your days and one minute, your dad, I don't even know if I have it. Maybe I, okay, there it is. He says, Patrick, I really don't know what to do with you.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I just can't categorize you, which is frustrating. You're like a moving target. That is very difficult to hit. One moment, you're fantastic. The next moment, you're very disappointing. I'm at my wits and with you, right? And I respond. I said, there will be more changes coming soon. So save yourself to frustration and agony and move on. It doesn't sound healthy for you. I
Starting point is 00:49:36 wish you nothing but the very best. You know why? You know why? Because we're questioning. And we're like trying to get a little bit more to say, well, you know, you know, you know, just put it together to define you. They want to box you in. They want to say, oh, no, this is questioning. And we're like trying to get a little bit more to say, well, you know, I don't know, you know, just put it together to define you. They want to box you in. They want to say, oh, no, this is him. And this is what, oh, what, what, what, that, that doesn't add up.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Yeah, it's more than mine. And it's more than mine. It's more than that. They don't want to hear what you have to say. They want to hear you saying what they want. Oh, yeah, that's exactly what it is. That's what they want to speak to. And you actually made a great point before about
Starting point is 00:50:03 the intersection between politics and religion. That is where we're at right now. So when you can't have an intellectual conversation with something that's so emotional, right? Technically, normally it would be, or the way it was supposed to be, politics were intellectual, right? It's a discussion about how to allocate resources in government, right? There's always a sliding scale. There's sometimes we need more, there's sometimes we need less, and it should always be open for discussion, right?
Starting point is 00:50:28 Religion is for people, it's eternal. It's the eternal truth. This is, I am right, everybody else is wrong, and I'm betting my eternal soul on it, right? So there is this idea of when you question someone's religion, you're questioning their entire identity. You're not questioning their decision making in the moment, you're questioning their entire identity. You're not questioning their decision-making in the moment, you're questioning who they are as a person.
Starting point is 00:50:48 So as people have taken their politics and they've taken their political perspective as their religion, as their worldview and as their personality, you can't disagree with them politically because now you disagreeing with the essence of themselves. You're saying you're a bad person, you don't understand,
Starting point is 00:51:04 and that's a really, really dangerous place to be. I want to give a couple shout outs here for comments that people made super chatter. So we got Sandy Butler, I'm sorry, Smetley Butler III. Pat, you asked your crew a few days ago about the New World Order. I've also heard you mention numerous times China being our number one enemy. But what if there's an even bigger enemy and even greater threat to our lives and freedom. So, smetly, I appreciate that and I'm reading a few books on that topic right now. Maybe we'll have a follow up on it. And then 50 year journey.
Starting point is 00:51:33 You'll see that. I'll see. Yeah, we did a how to on that. That's up there. Yeah, yeah. Today's video, how to is actually a biggest threats to America. But anyways, PBD, I agreed children are born with no left or right until they encounter an influence.
Starting point is 00:51:46 If you have children without any sway, without parents and a bubble, they will naturally flow one way or another without prejudice. I agree. I'm leaning towards what he's saying as well. So, you know, 50, thanks for that. And then we have Chico Lopez commented about Chico Lopez, Gimia, heavyweight belt a couple years ago. Oh man, that belt. Chico's freaking abyss.
Starting point is 00:52:08 And Chico's trying to give me a dog, by the way. He said, bring Tyson Fiori. He was bred to be a world champion. He's a top dog and a friend. He is getting a litter-made puppy to yours. He is awesome, never give up going to London. Chico, want you to set that up and let's get Tyson here. We'd love to have him.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Did you guys end up watching a fight or no? Did you watch it? None of you guys watched it. Did you watch it all? I watched it all. One of the sickest fights ever seen. Yeah, crazy, crazy. Sickest fights I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:52:34 You know, people are given Yante Wilder crap for not being a good sportsman. They did just took a beating. Yeah. What do you want him to do? He didn't know where he was. Like I think he's done. Yante Wilder? Psychologically he's done. Diante while I go.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Logically he's done. It's the tough one man. I don't think he's done per se because that right hand should have knocked out for multiple times. If anything, he's probably sitting here like, what's going on? Have I lost my powers?
Starting point is 00:52:57 Like I don't see Anthony Joshua beating Diante Wilder. I just don't know. Do you want to watch it? I don't. I don't. We were trying to figure out like what's the next fight i think i think if all check in and uh... and uh... fury you're good
Starting point is 00:53:12 that's that's david and galai and by the way that's fine to see that what i tell you if he doesn't be fury he psychologically done dot the wilder if you're listening to this there's one fight to me i don't think that we've been a Paul I got a wall. I don't know if we even need to be mentioning the wild's name. No, Gerard It needs to be all about Tyson Fury. This guy is by far and away the number one heavyweight He's making boxing without freaking Tyson Fury doing what he do we'd be talking about by the way many agree with here Many a guy forget about Dante Walder. I don't care if he stays boxing. He's done.
Starting point is 00:53:47 He's not fighting Fury anymore. He's beat his ass three times. Did you replace Tom Xenner? I love you. He's selling a guy named Tom Xenner. I love Daniel Cormier. I love Daniel Cormier. He's always wrong.
Starting point is 00:53:55 No. He's speaking of conspiracy. They're Daniel Cormier, who I love. Did you hear him talk about how Deontay actually knocked out Fury that was a, a, a, a, Andre Ward and Daniel Cormier going back and forth on Twitter talking about how long the standing eight count Fury got in the second knockout what, knocked out was, I was like, I don't know. Yeah, but you know, the Dustin Portier interview
Starting point is 00:54:13 is going to be picked up all over ESPN. What's ESPN reached out to us yesterday? They reached out cause they're gonna use like 30 second of the clip cause a couple comments he made. He said that the biggest puncture was who counter. He said, that's no matter what year it was, he was the biggest puncture. He said that the biggest puncture was who? Counter. He said, that's no matter what year it was, he was the biggest puncture.
Starting point is 00:54:26 He said, he said, he says, you don't even know what to do with that guy, would could be. And then when I asked him the question, who would replace Dana White, if Dana one day wanted to step away, I said, can you see Connor Duneer? He says, no, I can't see Connor Duneer. It's just, but I can see Daniel Cormier Duneer.
Starting point is 00:54:39 So he gave Daniel some love, you know, for replacing. He's a smart guy, but yeah. Yeah, can you like DC running UFC? I can see it. That's pretty sad. I know why it's not going anywhere Not anytime I'm not anytime through replace DC in the in the booth though I want I want Conor McGregor in the book Conor ever fight again. I don't want to step out I want to fight yeah, yeah, Conor ever fight again. He's partying little too much man
Starting point is 00:55:01 His post yesterday. Yeah, I don't know I injured but he's an athlete through and through he'll come back. Yeah, Connor will come back. Take a couple years Be calm listen, it's really hard to get up and put in the miles when you're when you're waking up satin sheets Right so put down. I'm calling Conner McGregor out right now David give it to me Give it to me. Come on, let's go Southwest Airlines story. There's your sports section that we had. Page five Southwest Airlines folks,
Starting point is 00:55:31 if you're thinking about flying Southwest, you may want to skip it. Well, it's not just Southwest, that's our, it's going to be canceled. So Southwest Airlines canceled 1800 flights this weekend, a morning-brew story. Southwest Airlines weekend was as chaotic as its Boarding process at cancel over 800 flights on Saturday they more than a thousand on Sunday representing 20% of all flights
Starting point is 00:55:51 Schedule for Sunday they blamed air traffic control issues a staffing shortage and a disruptive weather But no other airlines seem to have those problems the FFA set set in a statement that yet there were a few hours of delay Due to staffing issues and Jacksonville, Florida, but that has been resolved Friday. What could be contributing to the cancellation Southwest runs a point-to-point route network where single delay can create an avalanche of other flight disruptions, but they're not touching on the real issue. I think 30% of employees at Southwest are not vaccinated and they're being forced to work and they're not wanting to, which means as of today, one of the pilots was being interviewed yesterday
Starting point is 00:56:32 says what would typically take two days to arrive for Amazon now, it's gonna be three or four days. So there's gonna be some kind of effect to it, but who's actually looked into this? Have you actually looked into this or not? Have you spent some time? Yeah, thanks to a big fan of the show and a guy who's running for Congress up in a former director
Starting point is 00:56:48 from LA who's running for Congress in Tennessee named Robbie Starbuck. He's been doing some unbelievable work on this and they're calling it that by the way. He's a stud. It's in their great last name if you want some sponsor. They're called it the Freedom Flu, the Freedom Flu. So as of according to Mr. Starbuck, as of this morning, 200 plus Northrop Grumman employees called out sick today and protested in front of Northrop Grumman. This is how it goes, guys. This is disobedience. This is how you take your power back. If these guys
Starting point is 00:57:17 want to play their power games, you don't have to be powerless. You can get together, but it only happens apes together strong. It only happens like the guy last night you're talking about. He's afraid to speak because he feels like he's alone. And that is why you speak to find out you're not alone. All right, you speak up. But when you're right, you're right. Right. The, the, we talked about it, you know, two podcasts ago, all it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. If you know in your bones that you're right and you're standing on the right side of history,
Starting point is 00:57:50 speak up, all right, be prepared to have your career be killed on that hill and you will be surprised, you will be shocked by how many of your fellow humans in your neighbors are decent people and they will stick up for you. But you gotta like, kind of like Pat was saying before, you gotta be that 10% You got to be that person willing to step up and step out and everybody else will come I'm telling you everybody else will come to you
Starting point is 00:58:12 Adam I mean, I don't know about you guys. This is why I only fly private these days This is enough of this the median semwell all we do is is fly private and semwell and I Well, all we do is fly private, and send well tonight. I think the ironic part here is, and I'm not sure if this genuinely has to do with, I think, Southwest pilots, the Union sued Southwest or with the vaccine mandate. I don't know if that's what it is, but the ironic part is they're saying that it was the disruptive weather that was limiting the flight. No, why they said that. No, no other airlines were dealing with it. You mean why they said that. No other airlines were dealing with that.
Starting point is 00:58:46 You know why they said that? No other airlines were dealing with bad weather. Why do they say that? These flights are canceled for a case of, let's go Brandon. Is that, but our Southwest, the only airline that is mandating vaccines, is that what it is? No, but why they say it?
Starting point is 00:59:01 I'm not, you have a point. What is it? I'm asking you, why do you think they said weather? Well, obviously it's not the weather, so they're looking for a scapegoat here, so I don't know. And what's a scapegoat? Phil, tell me something, babe. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I don't know, I don't know. To be honest, I fly private or American. I don't have to South West. All right, so when it's weather, you don't have to pay. You don't have to take care of the newcomers. Oh, is that what it is? Think about it. Anytime there's a weather delay, do you get reimbursed?
Starting point is 00:59:28 No, they're like, we'll find another flight. And only if you have like certain crazy status, will you ever get a voucher hotel or something? After three hours on the phone, begging for it. Right. So was any other airline even remotely closed to the 2000 flights canceled? Like, there's any other cancel, but there was 200. There was anything.
Starting point is 00:59:49 There were 6000 flights that were delayed. But that's when they're saying this point is right. Whether this weekend, no. No. So it was all BS. The air traffic control was there was no air traffic controllers. They shut it down. Shut it down.
Starting point is 01:00:02 They just, hey, look, the truckers, the truckers out in Australia. Imagine what will happen if this type of mentality continues. Apes together strong, baby. The holidays may be a little bit darker winter than even Fauci says, because you're not gonna get your toys on time. You're not gonna get certain supplies on time.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Hey, the GW bridge is only two lanes. That would take two truckers to park their, their semi's on the, on the, uh, Northbound and the Southbound side going into Jersey and going into New York, get out and walk. And the whole bridge would be shut down for a while. You have a smile on your face while you're saying. Because he's hoping it happens. All it would take. I would, I would never, I would never wish that on my worst enemy. And the whole bridge would be shut down for a smile on your face while your says he's hoping it had all a take I would never I would never wish that on my worst enemy. He's stuck in GW traffic
Starting point is 01:00:49 But I'll tell you what you wanted to make a point about mandates and about we know as the power gets his ideas from buddy Now we know where Chris Christie gets all his brilliant idea only only nutrition tips. That's it. That's all I Fantastic seems to be working on a task of John Groot and John Groot. Oh my John Groot in the story. Let's it. That's all I give us. Fantastic. That seems to be working out with you. Fantastic. John Grooten. Let's go to John Grooten's story. Let's do a light story. Who's saying that light? This is a light story here, guys. John Grooten's a good football coach.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Okay. John Grooten used racial trope to describe NFL P.A. Chief, DeMorese Smith and 2011 email the Wall Street Journal on July 21, 2011 National Football League and its players were working to resolve a lockout that threatened the upcoming season that they the league owners voted to ratify a new collective bargaining agreement, but the players opted not to vote on it immediately. Siding outstanding issues that the union was fighting to resolve the same, that same day John Groot and the Colonel Las Vegas coach, Ra coach uh... who has been one the most uh... prominent figures in the
Starting point is 01:01:46 NFL over the past two decades sent an email to the the morris smith the executive director the nfl player association to uh... team executive grudin's email described smith was a racist stroke common and anti-black imagery uh... dumb uh... dumb borrass smith has lips the size of a michael entirecy wrote in the email the NFL is Reviewing gruten status with the Raiders for potential discipline. Yes today the tweet comes out and Saying that Adam Schaeffer I think came out and said he is probably gonna step up He's gonna get fired and then announcement was made that he resigned
Starting point is 01:02:21 Yeah, and John gruten is no longer the head coach of the Raiders, which they were off to a decent start. And there's a couple other stories that came out as well, but that's what I'm going to stop right here. If you got any comments, Adam, I'm going to start with you first. Well, this really resonated with me when I saw Randy Moss weigh in on this over the weekend. Did you see Randy Moss break down in tears? Look, I think the NFL is 70% black, okay? It's clear that I don't know, less than 20% of the NFL coaches are black. I don't, I think it's 10% of the GM or the front office that are black. And this was just, I'm not saying that John Groen's
Starting point is 01:03:07 erasist, I am saying that he's a fucking idiot. He completely lost his locker room. If, what's Al Davis's son's name? Mark Davis. Okay, they were known for the bad boys at the NFL, but this is not the bad boys that you wanna be these days. Okay, so he's lost the locker room. If 70% of your team is black,
Starting point is 01:03:27 how do they even respect you at this point? You know what you're doing. When you're calling dumb morosmith and using racist tropes like huge lips or the size of Michelin tires, apparently he was also using some anti-gay slurs about Michael Sam, the gay guy that was. Rams.
Starting point is 01:03:43 That was drafted by the Rams. He was talking major crap about Roger Godell, calling him a PUSSY and a F.A.G.G. whatever, whatever. I'm sure he's the first person ever that call Godell. No, I'm sure. Well, Godell gets hated on a lot. But I think at the end of the day, he was a complete distraction.
Starting point is 01:04:01 And if he stayed on his coach, this is something that the Raiders would be dealing with all year. And I don't think it's a, I don't think it's ironic that they've lost their last two games since this has kind of been out in the in the news and they lost to a not that good of a Bears team with a rookie quarterback over the weekend. He's lost the team and he had to go. Listen, we saw it with Brett Kavanaugh, listen, and in your interview with the Facebook moderator, the fact that anybody can read any message that's ever been on any Facebook platform,
Starting point is 01:04:35 WhatsApp, Instagram, if we're all gonna be adjudicated for shit that we said 10, 11, 12 years ago, there's gonna be a lot of people that got a lot to fucking answer for, boy. Let me tell you. All right, and I'll also say, I'll be controversial, okay? Black people are not a protected species. You can't just say that he said something that was, can be construed as racist, and that's
Starting point is 01:05:00 a career death sentence, all right, especially in a league where Dishon Jackson said anti-Semitic things. Dishon Jackson said anti-Semitic things. That were, I mean, he quoted a man who quoted Hitler. He didn't lose his job in league. He quoted Farrakhan. He didn't lose his job in league. I mean, I think that what John Grootin did is stupid.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Inadvizable, he thought that what he was saying was private. He was probably trying to be edgy and a private conversation also sent naked photos of women and stuff like that. It's a bad look. It's a bad look for the guy who's the CEO of the organization, I get all that. But he should have never apologized first of all
Starting point is 01:05:41 because the people that have a problem with this stuff, they're never gonna be like, okay, well, he apologized, he's gonna learn from it. No, never freaking apologize. That's number one never back pedal If you believe in your heart of hearts that you're not actually racist if you believe in your heart of hearts That you're not actually misogynist and this is just the language that you grew up and the times that you grew up in then explain it like that All right, but as soon as you back pedal as soon as soon as you apologize, you give credence to your accusations, okay? That's number one. Number two, if the NFL is really has a problem
Starting point is 01:06:13 with homophobic slurs and misogyny, then how in God's name is Snoop Dogg, M&M, and Dr. Dre the halfftime performance this year. Why did you take my shit? I'm just saying, if you really have a problem and I love Eminem and I love Dr. Dre and I love Snoop Dogg's music, okay? But if this is really an issue, then how are they your Super Bowl halftime? There's a difference between a performer who comes in for 15 minutes and half time.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Just call it whatever this is. There's a difference between a organization who comes in for 15 minutes I don't just call it. What is this? There's a big organization in a black guy just say what it is. I don't think that's what it is So I think if a black guy said this about white people he'd be fired to wow Deshaun Jackson. We literally just show happened. That's a one-wide receiver. This is the face of your team You have to lead you have to be a leader face of the team of the Raiders for sure They just they brought them out of the announcing booth. He hasn't coached in 15, okay, and they made him everything and everything for the Raiders so to your point It's not like you some scrub wide receiver that go to the
Starting point is 01:07:11 Injury Okay, not a scrub so it's not 12 teams in 12 years right so you got gruden 10 years 100 million They're like let's get him out of here so we can save some money. I don't know three and two right is the record that they currently have Look this is back in July of 2011. This is bullshit. This is bullshit. You're bringing up stuff from like 10 years ago of this stuff. Like if it was that damn serious,
Starting point is 01:07:37 people do what they want to do. If you really thought this was an issue, you would have done something then, which you should have done. So Roger Gidell, all you people that were involved, raise your hand and say, I didn't really care about it 10 years ago, but I sure do now. And explain, because we need an explanation, because you know what, if they pulled up something for me 10 years ago, they say, Phil, you thought this way, I'd be like, yeah, back then, but
Starting point is 01:08:02 I don't do now. And no, like at the end of the day, what Daryl is saying is right. You run a sports organization, okay? When you have certain people perform at the biggest event pretty much in our country, which is a super bowl, right? Billions of dollars involved. And you have people like him and them that have said the word F.A.G.G.L.T. Plenty of times and the stuff that Snoop Dogg has said plenty of times You got to call a spade a spade here. It is out of this a spade
Starting point is 01:08:34 You're gonna call it or not because they are representing your brand during that time if they were Okay, let me ask you this if our Kelly wasn't You know behind bars would you and he he was supposed to do the Super Bowl, what were your thoughts would be? You say hell no, he's not representing the NFL, this and that and the other, but you got these guys representing the Super Bowl. There you go.
Starting point is 01:08:54 M&M from 2012, ready? I may fight for gay rights, especially if the dyke is more of a knockout than Jene Rice. Play nice bitch, I'll punch Lana Dorei in the face twice, like Rice in broad day light in Plain site of elevator surveillance to the head is banging on the railing then celebrate with the Ravens And what name one thing and what team does that? I'm an M&M coach
Starting point is 01:09:17 He's performing for the entire night. So let me process it. Let me let me hang on. I'm trying to I'm trying because there is a point here So what you're saying is the comment is irrelevant. It's the status of the individual making the comment is what you're saying. Okay, so you're saying a player can get away with making any comment at all and a rapper can get away with it, but not a head coach.
Starting point is 01:09:41 That's what you're saying. I did not say any comment, a player can't get away with any, we saw what happened with um the guy in the heat uh... who's made said some uh... to luke a mantra several no no uh... what was the the center uh... miles uh... said something anti-semitic yeah i forget his name i what happened to him he was released from the team he was injured he's gone okay players can get it to you can understand if you're the coach of the team, he was injured, he's gone. Players can get it too. You gotta understand, if you're the coach of the team, NFL is very fickle, if the sentiment of the team or if the mood of the team sways a little bit,
Starting point is 01:10:12 they're looking for heads to roll. So I got a few issues with this. This is the coach of the team. I don't say this. I think you make a good point there, and I think that's something to process, to say a leadership person is held to a different- Myers Leonard is the guy I'm thinking about.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Okay, so now you're ready for this. you're ready for this now you're ready for this Okay, when he said it was your head coach He was an announcer I believe that so he's nice so he didn't he never made that comment as a head coach He made that comment as an announcer, but wait let's let's let's let's go through each He made that comment as an announcer working for who at the time ten years of former NFL coach Who was he work? No, no, no who at the time. Ten years of former NFL coach. Who was you working? No, no, no. He was at coach at the time of a big loss.
Starting point is 01:10:46 I totally guessed that. I want to super ball and- But who would- When you made that comment, who was you working for? ESPN. OK. You don't think ESPN knew about that? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Maybe. Maybe they did. But wait a minute. Let's actually process this. You don't think ESPN knew about that comment made 10 years ago? I don't know. OK. I don't want to speculate and say yes or no.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I don't know. I don't know. Are you leaning more towards yes or no? I literally don't know what ESPN knew. But if you were to play odds, Vegas gambling, are you leaning towards yes or no? I'm not. I'm not. What do you think you think ESPN knew?
Starting point is 01:11:17 No. Okay. You think ESPN knew? I don't think so. Just because I mean, where was the data located off of someone's server? Something. This is email. This is coming out because of sexual harassment allegations
Starting point is 01:11:30 within the Washington football team. There they've been. So you mean to tell me Smith, the guy he sent the executive, the email to you think he's kept it a secret for 10 years? But he didn't send it to Bruce Allen though. He sent it to Bruce Allen. And he's kept it a secret for 10 years. Maybe not didn't send it to Bruce Allen though. He sent it to Bruce Allen. And he's kept it a secret for 10 years.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Maybe not. OK, I'm not convinced ESPN didn't know. You think ESPN knew? I'm 55% they know. And I'm convinced ESPN is kind of like, look guys, this cannot be tarnished in ESPN. We are a clean image. There's no way this can come out.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Now he's a head coach at a Raiders, $100 million contract, $60 million guarantee, all this other stuff screwed. You know, let's now bring it out because there's other stuff coming in and throw that email in there as well. Okay, cool. So people hang on to stuff for a long time by the way,
Starting point is 01:12:14 just so you know, this isn't the first time that somebody's hang on to an email with somebody. You push a little bit too much and he made some bad comments about Biden and Obama. He created some enemies. Let's not, can you go pull up what comments he made about Obama and Biden? But I'm gonna go to a different angle here uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh It's important to mention this though and I do believe him when he says this because in the email He praised Jean upshaw who is black if he really meant de morice Smith the de morice Smith Biden as a you know This was like a racial trauma and Biden. He he claims he met it as lying and this guy's lying, right and in the context of
Starting point is 01:13:01 The context of the Email that makes sense. He's talking about a mess a lot. I have to state one fact here. How old do you think John Gruden is? 50. You want me to do it? 54. He's 58 years old. So these emails that came out 7, 10 years ago. He's a 50 year old man. Okay, making these dumb ass comments.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Talking to his friend. I don't care who he's talking to. You're a head coach. You're a face of the NFL It's not like he's 80 like if someone's 16 18 20 and they make some stuff. They have some time to grow I know your mother. I know your mother wants to be I know your mother wants to be a rabbi Let me tell you bro. You're 40 years old. You ain't no rabbi dog You're 40 year old making some weird comments when we're off camera
Starting point is 01:13:45 Let's not like you know, I say it on camera. No, no, no, no There are some stuff that you say off camera that you would never say on camera stay worse stuff on camera Then I this a great guy this but let me let me go to my next put let me go to my next point. Okay fine You're saying he was 50 years old. Here's my next point. He made a few comments about Obama and Biden if you can find that Well, are you saying you're defending John Groot? Where do you, what's your stance on this? Can I go through my two points? Okay, here's my next point. 12 points.
Starting point is 01:14:09 My two points. So my next point is this, what's the value of an apology? Nothing. Not a zip-zilch. What is the value of an apology to you? I tend to agree with Gerard that apologizing is just nothing. I won't say it means nothing, but I don't. So you know what is very irritating?
Starting point is 01:14:28 Yeah. It's because when commentators who defend players who are about to get fired, they say, give the man a break. And we've only done, you know, he at least apologized. What are we here judging this man? We've never done anything before. So everything is about the argument that makes sense. So they'll tell them,reas Harrel said, bitch ass white boy to Luca. How good of a word is that, by the way? I mean, if you want to
Starting point is 01:14:50 go through it, that's as bad as it gets. Okay. I've been called a bitch ass white boy in the basketball court. 10,000 should Montreas Harrel be fired? No, but he's just one player. I think there's a you have to distinguish between a player like a Dashaun Jackson type Yeah, or a Myers-Lenner or the head coach of a team who's leading the man That's not that's Mantras. Harold is a grown man. He's a grown man the moment you're that age you're a grown man Over your grown man. You're no longer a kid. It's not a leader He's a he's a leader for his he's a leader for his community player. No, that's not how this works You can't change standards on different people, bro.
Starting point is 01:15:26 I'm not what am I. A standard for coach and a player is the same thing. What's standard? Oh, no, I totally disagree. So that's on you, though. By the way, you could be a when you have zero standards. I can't play. Then then the then the then it has nothing to do with the comment. So you say it like, Ron James is not the leader. You're going to say the best player of all time, other than Michael Jordan. Yes, he's a leader.
Starting point is 01:15:46 The 12th man. The 12th man, that's like what mantra? The 12th man on the bench is not a leader. Pat, it's very clear. All right, and Adam, you've won me over. It's very, very clear that what mantra this Harold did was mostly peaceful, whereas these emails are clearly an insurgency into something that.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Yeah, I don't know. You drive the car, you gotta go. You hear it, you hear it. emails are clearly an insurgency into something that. Yeah, I don't know. You drive, you gotta go. If you're gonna lead men, you need to set an example. Okay, Groot and reportedly aimed homophobic slurs at GoDell and several instances as well as using defensive language to describe NFL owners, coaches, and media. Even Barack Obama, Joe Biden, were reportedly mentioned in Gro in gruten's email with the gruten ripping Obama during his
Starting point is 01:16:27 2012 election campaign and referring to Biden as a reference to violent Biden as a nervous clueless what would those other four letters after PB I don't know but anyways we can see yeah pixie pixie so so look all I'm saying is if if you're gonna put the standards awards It's got to be crossed aboard I disagree. Oh, yeah, you're your your cut. You have a right to disagree with it But if you're gonna say award is that offensive to a sports they consistent I am show some level of consistency any player that says something your cut your cut what I'm trying it
Starting point is 01:17:00 I don't think you should I don't think you should cut the guy I think when you're in you know that environment. I don't think you should. I don't think you should cut the guy. I think when you're in, you know, that environment, I don't think you should. Okay, coaches. Our most coaches like very proper, 20, 100 kind of coaches. How are coaches?
Starting point is 01:17:16 Loud mouth. You know who's scared right now? You know who's scared right now? All coaches. The Ryan coach, who's the Ryan coach? The judge. Rex Ryan's got a worry right now. You know who else has got a worry? 90% of these guys got a worry right now what they've said so what are you gonna do?
Starting point is 01:17:29 Everybody you know what just happened the last 24 hours in the last 24 hours probably seven million emails have been deleted in the end Everybody had a meeting and said delete everything pat I was an all-state linebacker my senior year and my coach called me Bologna tits everything practice alright so like Come on Call you that free It's why I like to be fired a guy or no no he's he he's I'm a fan of this dude but let's go find a guy I got to tell you man and again this is controversial
Starting point is 01:17:56 I really don't care. I'm sick of people treating black people like to have no agency I'm sick of it like oh god. How could he possibly have said something so horrible what happens if he used the N word fire It's okay if he did fireable Yeah, if you called someone a monkey more cement this ape is that fireable? If you call them the N word, that's fireball. All right. Okay, but so so words do matter But he did not so I know I know I can't say a slippery slip But you're saying words matter more it doesn't matter but for who though you got a leader Words matter more if they're said from a white person to a black person That's what I was gonna say because I mean I I'm not even looking this as a black and white.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Well, you made it. Well, they literally, they are. They're all at random work. It's only one angle. I agree. However, Myers-Lender, there's a white guy who is saying, I'm telling you times, it's a stupid word. Said the N word and he says,
Starting point is 01:18:56 before I'm in that halftime. I mean, this is what I'm saying, dude. How many times, well, that's the whole other conversation we can have about black people saying the N word. You know, there's black people that wholeheartedly disagree with black people saying that and there's black people saying no that empowers me It's a whole we can go an hour on that topic, yeah, but I
Starting point is 01:19:11 Like at the end of the day there is a difference between a coat like Pat your CEO of a company. Yep to use your example Is there a big difference between you as the CEO or Matt Sipala being the CDO or Is there a big difference between you as a CEO or Matt Sipala being the CDO or Alexis Moody being you know marketing direct whatever versus some random salesperson who just came to the organization last year There's a big difference right? But there is a difference though. Montress. Herald is not a random. Okay, but I'm asking you in the business context Yeah, there is a difference with you mean the CEO the C-suite executive and just a regular set of person. So for standards wise, there is,
Starting point is 01:19:50 do you think the other group are really lost? Let me get through. Do you think he really lost the, there is some set of standards. I just why I give you credence at the beginning where I said, I think we have to give credence to your argument. I said, yes.
Starting point is 01:19:59 I just think there's a division being a leader and a founder or a CEO, but this is a random set of person. But I think you have to know when you're a player and you have some of these players have more followers than these coaches. So that's in the ground. In the influencer. Not even LeBron, Montreux, Harold,
Starting point is 01:20:15 John Gruden, Montreux, some of these players have more followers than coaches. They're an influencer. You make a comment like that. I'm sorry, you're also a follower. You're being a social media. That is a form of a leader. That is a form being a social media that is a form of a leader that is a form of an influencer That is a form of an example on what I know a lot of
Starting point is 01:20:30 Slutty models with millions and millions of followers your community That's my community, but I'm not saying that they're leaders But their leaders are taking our clothes off in a space like If it's all just based on followers that's what is this if you want to but but in only fans like this, you say if it's all just based on followers, that's what it is. Like this, if you want to, but in only fans like you're your slutty friends, you're talking about it. Okay, whatever, whatever you're talking about,
Starting point is 01:20:51 this community, right? Just saying followers doesn't mean you're a leader. But the point, the point in that community is that's across the board, no one cares. This is a sport. There is a regulator at the top who his name is Roger Godel, who's the commissioner. He wants to clean house to say, some of these things are not expected except it. You got to clean it
Starting point is 01:21:09 up. Then you got to keep that consistency across the board. Very clear. You can just say you can say but this person cannot say. You got to clean up and make a very standard. Why they weaponize these emails like this? I mean especially during the season I mean there wasn't like an investigation where you know it took some weeks on end and, you know, like, there's no system in place to say, hey, John, you know, this is what we present to you, you know, like, we need to really have a chat about this. You weren't working for, you know, as a coach, like we've had said, what, how do you feel about this? Because we haven't had, and he gets in John Groog, you could say, why haven't had any interaction
Starting point is 01:21:44 like this over the past 10 years So what are we talking about? What infractions do I have currently with this organization? Well, there's none but 10 years ago you said this in this and You know you called me a P you know whatever and maybe you need some sensitivity training this and that okay, so By the way, what are we talking about here like I mean do you do you lost the locker room do you think I don't think you lost a locker room I mean like there would be more players standing up and stuff like that I think what happens I think definitely what happens when this news comes out
Starting point is 01:22:16 look I'm forty-one I'll be forty-two this year I mean we're all relatively you're the youngest I'm not twenty-three I'm not twenty- 25 making 50 million or whatever. I could easily at me at 25, I could say, you know what, I could hear maybe from like a season veteran, like I should be pissed, and maybe I just follow. I don't know. Because that does happen in the locker room. By the way, what happened to the coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars? Urban Myers? Urban Myers of this. So, if there's anybody that's excited about this news, it's him. He was all up in the news for two weeks straight. Now, he's no, no, no, no urban Meyer did or what John Groot and did well
Starting point is 01:23:05 We're talking honestly like if I was in the locker room. I'd be like I would I Don't know if I would give a shit about John for which is worse from a player's perspective from just a actual human beings perspective See I can give a shit if a coach called me big lips. Okay, I'm just gonna say but you care that he got a lot If you do you care if someone called you, you've said this before, someone making fun of you or whatever, saying I got a big nose and big ears. I can give two shits. I can give two fucks, I'm just gonna say it, sorry.
Starting point is 01:23:35 But for the F-word, but I can care less. I've been called all kind of stuff, playing ball in college in high school. Oh my gosh. Back then you can actually have your coach grab you back in the 90s and stuff. So what we urban Meyer did was worse? I'm saying like-
Starting point is 01:23:52 I remember Meyer bailed on his team. Yeah, I think that was well. Does he didn't take a flight back with his team? Yeah, he didn't take a flight back with his team. So he took a flight back with his brother on Mars. After a loss? Okay, you stay here. You stay here.
Starting point is 01:24:00 And why do we rush? Why? Because he was getting drunk with some chick. He stayed at his bar. He stayed at his bar. I mean, okay Okay, so I don't have a huge problem with what are better? Bro, you're I be I'd be it's I'd be more upset if I'm if his wife what the fuck were you doing? Yeah, but if I'm his player You're seeing over company. You're a silver company. That's what the
Starting point is 01:24:18 $1.000 you do some shit like that This is employees are gonna be like what the hell man? Like you're not supposed to be going that you supposed to be on the private Well, I got to take the jet back, but you don't, I've got to take the jet back. That's when I'm about to. So urban wire urban Myers worse in your eyes than John. I don't know. Again, listen, if the team came out, all right, and this I'll give you this. If the team came out and they were like, you know what, we can't be led by this man. I'd say, okay. Yeah, what don't you think those conversations were taking place in internally? According to what I was reading, Davis, some of Al Davis badass dude, fire the guy or ask him to resign. Because I think I think there's pressure
Starting point is 01:24:55 from outside your organization. Probably a top five receiver of all time break down in tears on ESPN. But it's a outside of your organization. I don't think it's inside your organization. I think the pressure came from outside your organization. I think it's probably a little bit of both I think you're right that it was definitely outside get the goodels of the world But I think internally they're like not how much is how much does a green walk away with It depends on how much was guaranteed right 60 million right whatever like that's the whole thing and if there's any sport That is very cruel to you pointy nose motherfucker whole thing and if there's any sport that is very cruel you pointy nose motherfucker
Starting point is 01:25:25 to my sixty million i'll take it as good a couple of whatever you know i don't worry about it or you know i got you i'll bring you up it call me pointy all you want right there you know i'm saying man this is crazy we live in a crazy world you imagine how i'll milk the toast every email from now on and through the end of history is going to be bro i have but what i guess here's a different question milk and toast every email from now on and through the end of history is going to be. Bro, I have, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:45 But what, I guess here's a different question. What's a, what, Statue of Limitation? So if you did it last year, that's wrong, obviously. Last year, you didn't, you know, pre-pandemic, two years ago, that's still a relatively recent, that's wrong. But five years ago, is that, is it for, like, what's the number of years
Starting point is 01:26:05 that's exactly what you're about? I'll take what you're saying, and I'll take it a step further. How about the words that we used 10 years ago that are considered like slurs now, we're just every day language 10 years ago. Like, you talked about the F course, like, we used that word all the time,
Starting point is 01:26:20 that FAA double G word, and it had nothing to do with being gay. It just meant like you were like a you were you were a wimp I think that you know I think like the the three letter word of that was very you non stop the six letter word Not as you have no idea you used a word before which word Three letter word yeah, have you used that before guys get them off I don't feel safe. No, no, get them off right now, guys. Sorry about that.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Yeah, so sorry. First of all, let's say let's change it. Let's go through different story here. Businesses say as many as 90% of candidates don't turn up to job interviews and some quit soon after being hired you're basically hiring anyone that would show up Paul Horton closest taco restaurant down in mid-September after being a left with just two kitchen staff members Horton said he'd spent thousands of dollars advertising jobs at taco crush but that only around 10% of
Starting point is 01:27:24 applicants replied after he hired to arrange an interview of those he scheduled interviews with only 5% and 10% turned up, you can't be choosing anymore. You're basically hiring anyone that would show up, some of the businesses inside her spoke to added that some new hires didn't turn up to their first shift or that they quit after just a few weeks. Why would you go work today if you got money that's coming in? Why would you even go want to put that effort in there today? By the way, this is a interesting thing that I'm hearing about a lot with businesses where can you imagine like this goes back to standard conversation. You're like, you are so not qualified for this job. But dude, just the fact that you're sitting here, you know what, you're hired. I have no other choice. Good help is hard to find. so not qualified for this job, but dude, just the fact that you're sitting here, you know what, you're hired.
Starting point is 01:28:05 I have no other choice, good help, it's hard to find. Just let you keep playing the Kai, bro. That was just the fact that you showed up. That's definitely not Kai, because Kai is qualified. But what do you think about when you hear a story like this? I don't think you're gonna like what I have to say about this to be honest with you, man.
Starting point is 01:28:20 I think that that quit your bitch and compete, you want better employees? Pony up. Well, you're, you're, you're not offering a compensation package that's getting you the type of employee that you want. Oh, nobody's gonna work today. Yeah. I don't know man.
Starting point is 01:28:35 You think apples having trouble finding employees? Do you think for different jobs, those are specialists? Do you think, do you think Tesla's having trouble finding those are specialists though? Hey, then you know, go get a job over there. Go, go, you go get a job over there. Go get, go get, no you go get a job at Apple. Go get, then go get a job over there. Go go you go get a job over there. Go get go get no you go Go get a job at Apple. Go get what? Go get a job at Apple. Why? I got a good job here.
Starting point is 01:28:52 I care about recent comments. You might be looking up to your resume, buddy. No, no, but the point then becomes I guess we already established I can be as anti-Semitic as I want nothing will happen. That's not true, buddy. We'll get all the 30 lawyers here in about seven seconds. First of all, the comments you made in the past, he's down, but we already know that. The comments, he makes the poll over. But that's a different story. You got, you got the work to work at. By the way, you know they say the lowest-paying
Starting point is 01:29:17 employee at Facebook is at like six figures, they showed it the other day. The lowest-paying employee at Facebook is at six figures. So, I don't know, I did a story. It was 90% like some employees are at six figures. Facebook is at six figures. So I don't know, I did a story. It was 90% like some employees are at six figures. Everyone's making six figures. However, there are people making, you know. 50,000 of you are some like that.
Starting point is 01:29:32 So, but the point is, but the point is this, if you want that six-figure job, go learn coding and go apply. I hear you. Go for it. But then if you want to open a Taco Bell, you just sell some robots.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Like what you want me to sell it. And guess what this guy has to do yeah Then that taco that's a buck 90 90's got a charge for bucks for you okay with that. I listen man You're okay with that any time tacos go up in price. I am not okay Okay, Gerard had an AOC moment Just like I did not listen pay your employees if you support aOC just say it right now These rich people I don't say I think that that's a guy bitching for no reason. He's not a track You know if you're not attracting talent, that's a self evaluation moment.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Talent to be. This is not. This is not a talent. This is the talent thing. This is the lowest of the lowest. Dude, I, I, I made whoppers at Burger King. Okay. You know how much talent it required for me to make those whoppers no onion.
Starting point is 01:30:41 It didn't take a lot of talent. Yeah. I would put the patties from the other side, and I would line them up three, okay? And it would fall off. My patties would always break. So if you ever had patties that were broken a Wapper, I'm a big p- I couldn't get these guys.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Full of Takes, no Takes. No Takes, no Takes. No Takes, no Takes. And then I would try to like put them pieces to get like I'm playing this puzzle game, and then they would say no onions, I would forget I would put onions. And you're like taking a bite, there's onions, right?
Starting point is 01:31:04 And all of a sudden this stuff. But anyways, that was my job. Yeah, I didn't need a four-year or two-year degree Well, you should pay me more than whatever I was making at the time Maybe maybe people feel like an hour of their life is not worth seven dollars. Then guess what? You know, you know, you know what the business owner has to do then this whopper is not worth the buck 99 It's worth 399 and you got to pay for it But this is this is the market. You know, there's this thing called capitalism. I hear you. And the math, because there's only 100 pennies in a dollar.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Anyway, capitalism, I love capitalism, but there's land, labor, and capital. Three different sides of it. Sure. Labor doesn't have to always take it on the chin here. They do not, and they do not take it on the chin all the time. So if labor is telling you, I don't want to do your job. For this period of time, this is not a specialized position. I hear you. So it's so different.
Starting point is 01:31:46 So then what you're suggesting is a $15 minimum wage. Maybe what I'm suggesting is that this guy, all right, should go out of business. Is what I'm suggesting. If he can't attract people, all right, and he doesn't have the clientele, no, bro, do you know what pain these, so first of all, you're talking to a guy
Starting point is 01:32:04 who went out of business by the way. You're talking to a guy who went out of business, by the way. You're talking to a guy that's had to work hundreds of hours a week for 15 years to finally be able to have the situation that you're in. So I understand the world of business and how it works. These restaurant guys, margins, they're working on 5% What are you talking about? So what pet, if he is having trouble
Starting point is 01:32:27 or attracting employees, what is his suggestion as to what? So let me ask you a question. What's your work for? But what I'm trying to tell you is, this is a basic math question and you're a math guy, okay? So when you sit there and you go through what the cost of your patty is, what the cost of the meat is, the lettuce, the tomato,
Starting point is 01:32:45 which is all going up, which is all going up, the cost of real estate, the cost of rent, the cost of electricity, the cost of cleaning crew, the cost of the cost of the, I can go on. Cost of insurance, cost of workers, cost of everything. Sure. This ain't cheap. This is a lot of cost.
Starting point is 01:33:00 And then all of that, nobody else cares about your business more than you. You have to work non-stop. You're there 24-7, seven days a week, you're missing practice, you're missing time with kids, you're missing all that stuff, and your margins at restaurants are 5%. How much is welfare?
Starting point is 01:33:12 So if they apply for welfare, whatever, government assistance, do they get paid more with that than- Yes, they will. Okay, then so- I don't know about, I will- So, unemployment insurance, stimulus checks, your mind goes on with that.
Starting point is 01:33:24 That's my- Yeah, my question is, okay, so you like a only 5% to 10% showed up Maybe they're just going to these businesses and saying no after they get applied, you know just to show Six six months you got to be employed for six months before you can get on first of all Or just show that like you know like for someone to keep Today guys don't even the lowest pain workers don't even have to go to work like, you know, like for someone to keep you on the run and want to keep their like, yeah, you know, I apply it. I apply it today. Guys don't even, the lowest paying workers don't even have to go to work.
Starting point is 01:33:49 The math doesn't make it. That's not getting it. But, but the point is when a sack he comes out and says, if business owners decide to raise prices because of taxes that is a unhuman thing to do, whatever comments you made like four weeks ago, we talked about it. She's not an economist. She is not an economist. Neither is Gerard, but the point I'm tryinghuman thing to do, whatever comments you made, or weeks ago we talked about it. She's not an economist. She is not an economist, neither is Gerard,
Starting point is 01:34:08 but the point I'm trying to make to you, is you got a five percent mark, the specific story's restaurant. You got a five percent margin in this. Do you know why companies like Facebook or companies like these software companies can pay what they pay? You know what their margins are?
Starting point is 01:34:21 What do you think's a margin of these companies? Don't say it, I want to hear what he says. What do you think their margins are? It depends on the product, but I mean, their margins are? What do you think's a margin of these companies? Don't say it. I want to hear what he says. What do you think their margins are? It depends on the product, but I mean, their margins are through the freaking, I mean, look at Apple. Apple doesn't develop a single game. Yeah, and they're the large sisters.
Starting point is 01:34:33 So how much does it take to sustain the app? Nothing, you just have that platform, right? They got 40% margins. This guy's got a 5% margin. So it's a very different world when you're talking about industries. I agree. Last year we sat in, we looked at all our employees, I sat in, I said, I want every position that I'm looking at in these, 20% higher paid them we're paying right now.
Starting point is 01:34:51 You know what happened to the quality of people we hired? To the roof. But we can now afford it to get people like that, right? Seven years ago we couldn't. Five years ago we couldn't. Now we can. Here we go. We brought seven C-suite executives new.
Starting point is 01:35:03 We went from two or three to brought seven C-suite executives new. We went from two or three to seven new C-suite executives that we have with a bigger pay, with better bonuses, with better equity, because now we can afford it. This restaurant guy is not a frickin' rich guy that you think this guy's broke. He's had a rough 18 months, and he's dealing with five percent margin.
Starting point is 01:35:21 I don't think that he's rich, but I think that he's not entitled to other people's labor. He's got to compete for people's labor. And just because he opened up a taco shop, doesn't guarantee that he's going to be successful. No, but he's saying, guys, nobody's saying this, but you guys are disputing math. You've got a 5% margin you're dealing with.
Starting point is 01:35:37 So if I can't, he knows that going in. Yeah. He knows that if things, maybe it's 10% as well. It sounds like a bad plan. It sounds like a bad plan, man. Guys, you're sitting and you're talking as if things, maybe it's 10% as well. It sounds like a big business plan, man. Guys, you're sitting and you're talking as if these are restaurants, tens of thousands of restaurants you go to. These guys stopped tomorrow and they said they don't want to do this anymore to serve you.
Starting point is 01:35:54 You ain't got a place to go. You got to figure out a way for these guys to also survive. Now, margins wise, if you're saying you got to pay more, no problem. But you also have to agree that they're going to have to raise prices to you. They're going to be raising prices. So you're okay with that. I'm not okay with problem, but you also have to agree that they're gonna have to raise prices towards you. They're gonna be raising prices. So you're okay with that. I'm not okay with it, but you can't, you can't say pay employees more,
Starting point is 01:36:12 but don't raise prices. The inevitability of inflation, prices are going up anyway. Why would somebody, you're gonna have, you're gonna have, oh, I forget the term of it. Social stratification. No, there's a term for basically, it's like a disillusioned employee, right?
Starting point is 01:36:27 So like, when bread is a dollar, making $7 fine, I'll do it. When bread is $5, make it $7 an hour, they're just like screw, it's not even worth it. It's an hour of my life for a loaf of bread, I'm not gonna work. Then if you're okay with the guy raising prices to meet his five to 10% margin, then he should pay more.
Starting point is 01:36:43 You're asked to hold a five. If I'm okay with inflation, it's if not, I'm not saying increasing inflation. No, you're saying to compete in a market. Competing in a market is meaning I have to go above and beyond inflation to be able to hang with other people. Sure. That's two different things.
Starting point is 01:36:58 You're not saying to raise it according to inflation. No, because the guy crossed the street from me that's a $50 billion fast food joint and a restaurant. I can't compete with that guy. Let me ask you this. Okay, let me take that same wall marked in a market across the street. Let me take that same logic, okay? And if I go up to that guy and I say,
Starting point is 01:37:14 hey, look, your taco is $4, but I only got three. It should only be $3. That's all I have. I only make $9 an hour. I can't spend half my money on taco. Go elsewhere. Yeah, those employees are going elsewhere Totally. He's not paying enough. I get this they go elsewhere this guy. It's too much money. He's got the best you know how much is gun to bank? How much I think this guy's got the bank? Don't care. Maybe he's not entitled to being a business But he's to come up with a better business. I don't disagree with the part that many people that are business owners shouldn't be business owners
Starting point is 01:37:43 I don't disagree with the part that many people that are business owners shouldn't be business owners. I don't disagree with that. But the basics of math works this way. If you want me to pay you more, I have to make my margin back on the set. Sure. So I have to raise prices. If you're a kid with raising prices, I'll pay you more. And if you raise this prices, and the market's against it, then you product sucks. Bingo.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Yeah, that's okay. That's not a problem. If you can't get employees, you have to do something that employees. But you just went from one angle thinking it's just a one angle story. It's like a five dimensional conversation. I think that the guy probably just, look, my thing is this man. Nobody is entitled to, I'm not entitled to that man's tacos. He's not entitled to this man's labor.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Do you know how? You're not entitled to anybody else's anything. Do you know what percentage, do you know how many people work in a restaurant business in America? Pre-COVID. You know what that number is? I would bet it's pretty high. 40 million people. Yeah, over 10% of the price. You know how many of them don't have a job.
Starting point is 01:38:31 You know how many people in New York right now are getting crushed because they don't have the cash to survive. You know how many people are getting destroyed because they can't get people to come back to work to their like, dude, I don't even know what to do. Hey, honey, can you come and work with me? It's not because their product sucks. The climate sucks. This is not the small business owners fault you to say, can you come and work with me? It's not because they're product sucks. The climate sucks. This is not the small business owners fault you to say screw you and get the hell out of you.
Starting point is 01:38:48 I'm in the sales business, right? My sales guys that go through certain things. You have to understand the challenges they're facing at times. When we first had the COVID, I'm like, you suck, here's what you got, I'm telling you out. It's not how this thing works. That's how innovation works though, Pat.
Starting point is 01:39:00 Is he offering, right? And is he offering, and it paid days off? What's he offering? He can't offer more money. What's he offering? Sometimes it entice people. When you're small, you don't have a lot to offer. That's why it's called small business owner.
Starting point is 01:39:12 49% of Americans work for a small business owner. I love small business owners. This guy sounds like a bad business owner. It's not one guy though. They're not talking about one guy. It's plenty of guys. Let me say, it's, Pat, whether this guy's got a good business model or bad business model, it's almost irrelevant.
Starting point is 01:39:26 It's the climate that we're in. And what was it? Two thirds of people were getting paid more to stay home during the pandemic than to go to work. So that's part of the climate, stimulus checks, unemployment insurance, talked about welfare. But let me say something. If you're an employee right now, we've talked about the great reset,
Starting point is 01:39:42 the great resignation people are, all right, does this, I even like this job? Maybe we're seeing left and right. 50% of the workforce is thinking about changing jobs. If you're an employee right now, you talked about paying your staff 20% more, I assume that's at Ph.B. Now's the time to go get your raise. I think if you're an employee, typically you get what, a two to three percent raise a year inflation, you know, cost of living adjustment, all that. Now, with inflation that's going on right now, now you should be looking for at least the minimum five percent, okay,
Starting point is 01:40:16 minimum. But if you're really good at what you do, you're talking about paying 20 percent more. Go get your money. The time is now. As you know, usually the power is in the business owner, or in the small business. Hey, we create the wages, you come work for us now, for whatever reason, the climate, the pandemic, everything that's going on, now's the time to go get your money.
Starting point is 01:40:39 So if you're in between jobs and you're not happy right now, go get your money and you'll get what the market pays you. Yeah, okay, the pain, the pain of a business owner. If you're not one, you're not gonna know the pain of the business owner. If you don't know the pain of what a lot of these guys are going today that are creating jobs for people, you have no clue what it is.
Starting point is 01:40:59 You know, when we'll hire people and I'll judge people that work for a company based on one basic thing. It's very easy to say, you should give that guy a raise, but it's not your money. It's very easy to say, we should do this more, but it's not your money. And the guys that typically eventually end up being leaders are the guys that manage the money as if it's their own money. This small business owners margins are tiny.
Starting point is 01:41:20 You're throwing around stuff saying, well, you don't deserve to do this. Yes, say that to a hundred thousand restaurants today in America. They're getting crushed. So then the argument becomes that UBI is necessary for certain people. The argument becomes, let's give somebody to certain people. I'm now with that, buddy. I talk to these guys and they have probably more anxiety, panic, 80-months, divorces, challenges, kids, issues.
Starting point is 01:41:43 Then you would even know today because of what happened last 18 months. And now you can't even get people to go to work. Yeah, that's what happens when socialism shows up and you give money away for free. When you start doing that, workers don't show up. Okay, all right, let's go to the next topic here. Let's see what we got. Which one do we want to go to?
Starting point is 01:42:01 Let's pick one of these stories. We cover ties to our own. Let's go one of these stories. We cover ties to the re. Let's go to the 130 countries. Let's go pay seven. Let's go to pay seven corporate taxes. Washington Post story, more than 130 countries reach deal on corporate minimum tax. They have agreed on sweeping changes on how big global companies are tax, including 15% minimum corporate rate designed to deter
Starting point is 01:42:25 multinationals from stashing profits in low tax countries. The deal announced Friday as an attempt to address the ways globalization and digitalization have changed the world economy. The agreement amongst 136 countries representing 90% of global economy was announced by the Paris-based organization for cooperation and economic development, which hosted the talks that led to it. The OECD said that the minimum tax would reap some 150 billion hours for governments.
Starting point is 01:42:52 The global minimum tax at 15% would apply to companies that with more than $864 billion in revenue. I think that's a million. I don't think that. No, no, that's a billion. That's annual. That's worldwide billion. That don't think that, no, no, that's a billion. That's, that's, that's a million. That's a worldwide billion. That is billion, of course.
Starting point is 01:43:08 It's gonna go from 150 billion to 864 billion if they apply this 15% corporate minimum tax across 130 countries who have agreed. Thoughts. Here's what I want you to do, because I think as the only one who's a full on business owner, corporate business owner, why don't you give us the good, the bad, the ugly of this? Because you've been pretty opinionated about this. I don't think this has to do. I think this has to do
Starting point is 01:43:31 more with who doesn't get to compete. Okay, so think about this. How many planets do we have to, how many options do we have on planets to live on today? What earth and Mars? Mars is coming. Why should Elon left this? He's probably got a little bit more time to focus on it because his his girl was a little bit of a distraction. Maybe so but we only have one planet right. I agree. Okay. How many countries that we have in this planet? What 200? Let's say 200 countries give or take sometime is 195, sometime is 220. Let's say 200 right. Okay. So if all of these guys all of a sudden agree on the same corporate minimum tax rate
Starting point is 01:44:07 Where do you go if you're not happy somewhere? Where do you go? What's your option now? What's your choice now? What do you do now? It's the same. What are the countries that aren't signing on to this? I guess that's that's that's that's right. And by the way the one country that Apple Google what was the one country? They're all in Ireland right? Yeah now they were twelve and a half percent they're also great and they finally went to fifteen fifteen so what that what that why are they so excited about doing this ask that question
Starting point is 01:44:34 why are you so excited about raising the corporate tax rate where's my i think i think i think i want to find out what is it though what's the motive what's the real motive to want to do some like that i think they the a term you always use as a race to the bottom. So like Hungary is at 9% Ireland's been at 12 and a half percent. Yeah, you have countries like Russia, Saudi Arabia, 20% and China I think was at 25% then you have the majority of the g7 countries somewhere around like 25 27% so
Starting point is 01:45:08 I think you always hear an item, not a corporate tax finance guy, you know, that's not my thing, but you always hear about Amazon pays zero in taxes. Apple pays zero in taxes. How are they getting away with this? Then you hear the argument that, I remember you did it on the white board of me, like why are we paying any corporate taxes?
Starting point is 01:45:23 Cause taxes are individuals are taxed. I think it's just a complicated payroll tax. Yeah, all that. So that's why, you know, the optics of it is. It's not only double tax. You're getting triple taxes. Taxes on tax and taxes. Explain that.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Explain that. No, the money you're making, your paying taxes on the income, your paying tax on corporate, your paying taxes on sales, your paying. By the time you really come down to what money stays with you, it's not as big as people think it is. Now, the whole thing with zero percent taxes they're talking about is how a company was worth
Starting point is 01:45:53 a half a billion dollars, a half a trillion dollars, now it's a 700 billion dollar company. They haven't spent the money, they've made 200 billion dollars, we should tax that, you know, valuation of the company that went up. Well, your net worth went up, we should tax that additional what that you made. the company that went up. Well, your net worth went up, we should tax that additional what that you made.
Starting point is 01:46:07 You didn't do anything with the money, I'm taking it out, it's just your net worth's gone up, right? Not even capital gains, there's not been an exchange yet for the stocks to, they want to add taxes to that. But I'm asking another question here, why do you think they're so excited about raising and getting making it equal to everybody? Why are they doing that?
Starting point is 01:46:23 What's the motive there? Well, when you want people to stop smoking, you increase the price to cigarettes through taxes. When you want people to stop drinking, you increase the price of vice through taxes. You want people to get off of gas and become carbon neutral. You increase the price. I think that this is something you talked about,
Starting point is 01:46:41 the small business owner before. This is, again, one of their things where only many few, few, few international corporations are going to be able to take on the extra three, four percent in tax. In addition, by the way, to the taxes that they have for import and export. I mean, that was one of the big things that we have
Starting point is 01:46:59 with China, was the trade deficit. This is something I was completely wrong about. This is something I've changed my mind 180 degrees on. I used to be completely supply side. And I said, I don't care if there's a trade deficit. I don't care if China taxes our company's 40% to import there and we taxed them nothing import here. That helps me the consumer.
Starting point is 01:47:18 I can have $6 underwears that have $9 underwears. That helps me. Right, get your third pair underwears. Three under one. Yeah, yeah, off your girlfriend's floor Adam boom Yeah, anyway, the Dish does it better been good. We want details this you really come As you're saying about corporate tax Check on the cats, we were hanging out.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Yeah, dude. Long story short, man, like only massive companies that have since serious government interconnection are going to be able to handle this on a national level. So yeah. What's this here? Let me see. What's going on here? I never knew the corporate tax would be this risk-at.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Yeah, there's a lot of, yeah, underpants. And then of the day, like, we always talk about competition. I mean, big business, they can compete, small, can't. That's going to affect a lot of people's way of living, especially in some of these smaller countries. You know, one of the things that I've been able to do, you know, being a professional bodybuilder was a travel world. Who's gonna cheat is what I'm thinking? Oh, yeah, you know, that's right.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Right there. Russia's being Russia's gonna, you know, like who's gonna cheat? You think China's gonna play fair? Well, China's not in it. 25%. Oh, yeah, so not in it. So are there allies is China's allies gonna cheat? The big domino to drop here was Ireland because Ireland was was like the tax haven for all these Major corporations at 12 and a half percent yours and they weren't They want a one-world government. Yeah, and they can't see it. I mean, it shows it right? I mean that's exactly what this is that's where's the direction. I mean, where's the money gonna go? Essentially, how did they enforce it? Right, you know, I didn't enforce what how did they enforce this? Yeah? That's the direction. I mean, where's the money gonna go? Essentially.
Starting point is 01:49:05 How did they enforce it? Right. How did they enforce what? How did they enforce this? Yeah. What do you mean how did they enforce it? Let's say we have the IRS. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:15 But we've talked about outside of everybody. But each of these countries have their own tax. I mean, each of these countries is gonna get their money. It's not gonna be scurting the tax laws anymore. I think that seems to be the bottom line. So all these tax loopholes and paying zero taxes, sorry, corporate corporations, time to pay. So that seems to be the big win for yelling it by the air.
Starting point is 01:49:33 So basically a country like, let's just say Spain. They say, OK, Adam, you did in our country $5 million or whatever. Here's your bill. And then I took a CESTA. Guys, $150 million or whatever, where here's your bill. And then I took a SIEGESTA. Guys, 150 to 895, that's how much is increasing. 150 to 895, that's a solid amount. That's great.
Starting point is 01:49:54 That's six sex overnight, kay, in collecting taxes. It's not a bad deal right there to make that kind of money. Kay, are you trying to say something? Yeah, I don't know how long this is gonna go through because the thing with cartels like that where everyone has to be an agreement. The only successful cartel that's really been over an extended period of time is OPEC, which controls the oil prices.
Starting point is 01:50:11 But with here, all you need is one outlier to just drop through and then all the countries are suddenly going to start falling to that country. And they're going to be making a lot of money that way. Well, there's already countries that have been signed on to this. Yeah, 136 countries have. We're're representing what 90% of the global economy. There's still 10% lingering out there. If you want to go this, this is in Bangladesh, have at it, I just don't know. The major economies is not in it. I don't know. No. Can you see if you can pull it up in like, like, not many? Just think about though, just think about how is this bad? Any improvement?
Starting point is 01:50:46 Is this a bad thing? Great, absolutely. This is a bad thing. So why would all these countries go sign onto this? Because they're greedy and because they're working towards, you know, a world where I'm going. I don't think that countries that want to get that money are greedy, they want that tax revenue.
Starting point is 01:51:02 That's our one for what? That is greed. For what? That's greed? Well, we all want our money they're all greedy taking taking tax revenue from what the people that are earning the the money the corporations right they're earning money it's not like they're using so what are they going to use this money for whatever the hell they want as their government right exactly tenia night jury in Pakistan is Sri Lanka geez so if you want to go do business in Kenya Sri Lanka Pakistan have added yeah added the OECD the only four countries that said no
Starting point is 01:51:33 It's Kenya and I Jerry a Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Okay, which is you ain't got a lot of options But you want trying to go do business there? No, you ain't got a lot of options there But I hear nightlife in Sri Lanka is actually not bad. Oh, I hear the Jibbuti. It's where it's at, though. But that's your kind of a market. Jibbuti? So, anyways, hey, are we doing podcast Thursday or no? We are on on Thursday? OK, we may have a special guest with us on Thursday,
Starting point is 01:51:54 depending on calendar. I don't know if we are going to or not, but we'll see. So folks, stay tuned. We'll be back at it again this Tuesday. This Thursday, same time, if you didn't get a chance to watch, if you're in a bodybuilding world, and if you didn't get a chance to watch Phil Heath's commentary with Gerard and Roy on Mr. Olympia
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