PBD Podcast - You're Putting Grandma in the Corner? | PBD Podcast | EP 33

Episode Date: December 18, 2020

On this Episode, Patrick Bet David sits down with Adam Sosnick and Danielle DiMartino Booth, to discuss their Christmas plans, China making a rise if America goes Socialist, Texas leaders considering ...a cessation from the United States, and Patrick takes a stance on Freedom of Speech.  Patrick Bet-David Podcast Episode 33. Download the podcasts on all your favorite platforms https://bit.ly/3kF7BT1 Text: PODCAST to 310.340.1132 to get added to the distribution list The Bet-David Podcast discusses current events, trending topics, and politics as they relate to life and business. Stay tuned for new episodes and guest appearances. Connect with Patrick on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patrickbetdavid/?hl=en Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/patrickbetdavid Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PatrickBetDavid.Valuetainment To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: info@valuetainment.com About the host: Patrick is a successful startup entrepreneur, CEO of PHP Agency, Inc., emerging author, and Creator of Valuetainment on Youtube. As a natural critical thinker, Patrick takes complex leadership, management, and entrepreneurial ideas and converts them into simple life lessons for today and tomorrow’s entrepreneurs. Patrick is passionate about shaping the next generation of leaders by teaching thought-provoking perspectives on entrepreneurship and disrupting the traditional approach to a career. Follow the guests in this episode: Adam Sosnick: https://bit.ly/2PqllTj Danielle DiMartino Booth: https://www.instagram.com/dimartinobooth/ To reach the Valuetainment team you can email: info@valuetainment.com Want Patrick on your podcast? - http://bit.ly/329MMGB --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

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Starting point is 00:00:00 First of all, I saw a comment yesterday saying my favorite part of the podcast is when Kai comments. Well, actually, we are officially live episode 33. We have Daniel de Martino booth back here with us and Adam. Yes. And we have Kai for another couple hours before he takes a nice little, how many hour flight? What is it from here to Norway?
Starting point is 00:00:22 17 hours from time I leave. 18 hours from here to go to Norway, which is going to be 17 hours from the time I leave. 18 hours from here to go to Norway, which is going to be excess. Well, Norway is going to raise interest rates for the first time. They're going to be the Pioneer
Starting point is 00:00:34 Central Post-COVID Central Bank to raise interest rates. So enjoy yourself, Kai. You're going to the land of the frugally, fiscally frugal. Go. The only ones that are raising
Starting point is 00:00:43 interest rates. The news hit the wires this morning. The the Nord just bank has expected to be the first. I love how Danielle goes right to right to Fed, not enjoying Norway, Merry Christmas. Well, you said too. So, so let me ask you how are you feeling? We haven't spoken for a while. Just kind of give me an update on how you're feeling from last time to this time. Economy, Biden, election, everything that's going to work. You had with all that stuff. I mean, so I'm happy that we've got past a certain few milestones, if you will. But right now it's a foot race. I'm marching the foot race.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I'm marching the foot race between the vaccine dissemination and how that trickles down into an economic rebound. And the immediate damage that the economy is withstanding right now. So it is, it really, everything's going to key off of, I think, how Christmas gatherings go. And I mean, it really is that. What do you mean by that? Christmas gatherings, like meaning if there's...
Starting point is 00:01:38 If there's another super spreader, Thanksgiving super spreader, then I mean, we had 3,800 deaths in the United States yesterday. We've never seen a number like that. The Census Bureau reported today that there are five million Americans who are not working because they're sick with COVID. I mean, these are strange statistics that are coming out. But if we pile on to this Thanksgiving super spreader another one at Christmas, we get theoretically go back into recession in the first quarter.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Well, I have a prediction. Yeah, I think we everyone is going to spend Christmas together. I don't think anyone's, and then I double it down on that. You think everybody is? I don't think everyone's still going to do Christmas together. Yes. Yes. Are you doing your traditional Christmas deal? Well, we are, it is up in the air whether or not we bring my mom in to Dallas. Okay. So that's the only thing you're changing. Super seniors. What are you changing with Christmas? Are you going to see in mom and his family going to go? Yes. So you're not changing any. I'm doing Hanukkah Christmas, Kwanzaa. I'm doing it all and then we're doing the greetings. You want it all, but I mean, I'm not seeing my 85 year old grandma. Like, that's not
Starting point is 00:02:34 right. Would you typically go see her? I should be around. Yeah, that's the thing. Okay, so that's what's changed. Keep the old and sick away. Yeah. You know, that's not very nice to say that way, but no, no, no, like keep them safe. Keep them away. Keep them all the way that's not very nice to say that way. But I know, like, keep them safe. Keep them away. Keep them old away. They're not necessarily sick. Just keep the old way. Old. Yeah. That are more susceptible. Maybe the sicker, you know, health issues. You know what? I mean, we may compromise. I mean, Nana's pretty good about it. You know, she can like sit over in the corner of the room with her mask on and enjoy the festive. You're going to put Nana in the corner. So you may, you're thinking maybe maybe she's got her own place to stay in the house.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Corner. You can sequester away. You're putting grandma on the text text. Nobody puts grandma on the corner. We all know that. Come on. So you could but bring grandma. What about you guys?
Starting point is 00:03:17 You got some big Christmas stuff. I listen to what I, here's what I was trying to do. I, I, I got a 14 bedroom house and a Lake Tahoe. We all did. And we were, we we were gonna bring all our board, fuel advisory board together, and we're gonna spend, what do you call it, that four nights together, okay, at Lake Tahoe.
Starting point is 00:03:34 For Christmas. We were. And then I get a article that comes off from Guardian saying the fact that Lake Tahoe shut down, heavily shut down, the slope shut down, everybody shut down, you can't have more than 10 people in the place and I called the guy, I'm like, listen, this had just came out, I saw this, I said,
Starting point is 00:03:49 we can't do it, don't even worry about it, he refunds the thing. So guy was a stand up guy, they ended up doing the deal and we now looked at other places to where we wanna go to, whether we're gonna go to Florida, all this up. I called the guy and I told you this the other day, I called the guy and the guy tells me, the broker's told me, focus, if you're gonna go get a place,
Starting point is 00:04:07 focus on red states, if you're gonna go anywhere. Because red states are gonna leave it open. Blue states are gonna lock down. So he says, if you wanna go to New York, not a good idea. You wanna go to Vermont, not a good idea. You wanna go to Colorado, stay away from Colorado. You wanna go to this place. So typical Aspen, Lake Tahoe, New York, Vermont.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah. These places at us. So what's left? New York, Vermont, these places out. I said, so what's left? He says, you're looking at Florida. Florida, Florida, Florida. Florida, and honestly, it's Florida, Florida. So we're most likely looking at Florida. And it's not gonna be the 25, 30 people that we would have done. It's probably only gonna end up being 12 of us.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Why not Alabama, West Virginia, or Alabama? I looked at Alabama. Yeah, like let's go red. Oh, now we're gonna go red state. let's go red. Oh, now we're going to go red state. Let's go red. Alabama would have been amazing. Don't knock orange beach until you've tried it.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I'm sorry. Is that the red neck Riviera? Yes, it is. Yeehaw, I know all about it. I can totally see you going there, by the way. I know, like, if I had to have some Florida in the panhandle, I went to Florida state, shout out to all my Florida state seminals out there in FSU, but, you know, I know about the panhandle, but I'm a South Florida kind of a guy.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Got it. Well, but you know, I mean, look, in defense of blue states, which, okay, I've never said those words. So there's a first. Mobility trends in states with high positivity rates of COVID, very red states have come cratering down. So a lot of it is the nana discussion, the grandmother discussion that we just had a lot of states.
Starting point is 00:05:32 If they follow their local news, they're not relying on governments, they're not relying on their local officials to tell them how to behave. They're choosing for, which you know what, a lot of red governors have said, you can make your own decisions. Exactly. You can be as prudent as you want to be. What do you think about that? And we have seen a lot of Americans do exactly that.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah. And make their own choices to not be mobile. Their economies get hurt just the same. Yeah, so they're not necessarily the same though. You're saying Florida gets hit the same as California? No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm saying when I'm saying states like North Dakota again. They're not necessarily the same though. You're saying Florida gets hit the same as California? No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying when I'm saying states like North Dakota again, Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I'm trying to think about the red states that have been really hit hard by COVID where there are no restrictions. And yet the economic growth has slowed appreciably. Right. But I mean, look, the blue states have taken this too far. I'm so sorry. But I mean, here in Dallas, we get the same kind of benefit of being able to eat outdoors
Starting point is 00:06:29 for a long part of the year. You don't shut down outdoor eating in LA County. That's just excuse it's an LA. In LA, it's just as an accident. It's just crazy. LA, New York, a bunch of different places. Well, this week, I think it saves the same vision. Well, New York, you can't mean that.
Starting point is 00:06:44 There's a sort of snow on the ground. You can't exactly decide. We can just have outdoor eating in New York this a bunch of different places. This week, I think it saves the same vision. You can't mean that there's a snow on the ground. You can't exactly decide how to eat in New York this week for sure. With the blizzard. Well, I mean, the blizzard. Talk about the blizzard. What the hell is going to 12 to 24 inches more than all of last winter combined in a span of a couple of days?
Starting point is 00:06:57 Okay, but before we move on to that, because I want to see some pictures of snow, I used to live there. But before we move on, in the Wall Street Journal showed that data that showed that restaurant indoor eating was responsible for 1.4% of COVID transmissions and indoor family gatherings were responsible
Starting point is 00:07:14 for 74% of COVID transmission. So there's as long as there's a good enough. That's 1.4%. Why that point for a percent? Which is nothing. It's driven up to restaurants. I mean, as long as you're and then what was the other number?
Starting point is 00:07:26 74% family gathering. That's crazy. Oh, so they're saying that you get a more COVID from being around your family. They need to be around the strangers. So they want you to go out, eat, drink, be married, just don't do it in the house. Look, in soul, in soul,
Starting point is 00:07:40 look, they never closed the restaurants in Seoul ever. So, South Korea? They just emptied out, yes, they emptied out half the tables. You know about South Korea. They emptied out half the tables. Social distance. They put their masks on and business didn't skip a beat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I mean, that's how you kind of do it. So, when you see Cuomo and Di Blasio trying to put the last nail in the coffin of New York, it makes, I mean, you cannot close the 21 club. It's just sad. There should be a log in something like that. And 148 employees that went with it. I'm going to, I'm going to ask Pat a few questions. COVID and business related. So let me, let me, let me set this up. And then I'd love to get your response on this. Number one, we've seen, you've done an episode about COVID, mass, you've done all that. You've also done another episode recently where you interviewed business owners, right? So, I think I saw that 40% of all COVID deaths are in nursing homes.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Something to that effect. We understand that COVID is real. For all my deniers out there, it is real, but it's not as lethal as we initially thought. People are certainly getting sick. But kind of like what Danielle said when you did your episode, we've seen these businesses, these small businesses, these restaurants. Danielle saying 1% of COVID cases are tracked to restaurants. But they're restaurants.
Starting point is 00:08:53 This is, okay. This is good. But you've seen, you've seen, okay, it's just a little, meaning bars is higher. Right. And plus a bar is, the reason bars are so much more transmission, petri dishes, it's because you've got loud music on. You tend to have a younger crowd, and they're yelling over the music to talk to each other. And they're closer together because they're talking about
Starting point is 00:09:16 things people talk about in a bar. Yeah, there's a big difference in a restaurant a bar here. That's a lot different than restaurants, than tables that are spaced out six feet apart, blah, blah, blah, much different environment. But what have you seen, you know, speak to that, to the, what you've seen with your episodes,
Starting point is 00:09:30 you've done with COVID, you've reached, I think it was last week, you interviewed the restaurant owners, some of them have gone viral, what do you, what do you say? Look, here's what you have to realize. Okay, so you raising kids two different ways, one way, extremely disciplined. You better do this, you better do that, You better do this, you better do that, you better do this, you better do that.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Okay, what is the benefit of raising your kids disciplined? They're gonna pick up some of your habits. What is the risk of raising your kids very disciplined? They may rebel against you, okay? I had what's the benefit of raising your kids and just saying, do it, just do it. You know, like, you know, what do you wanna do? He's Kevin Hartzlack, I wanna live my mom.
Starting point is 00:10:04 My mom was so disciplined, I couldn't stand it. It was all about God, Bible, all this stuff. I don't want to live with you. I'm going to go live with my dad. He says, I go live with my dad. My dad's like, okay, all right, what are you going to do? I'll see you later. He says, never check them.
Starting point is 00:10:15 He never saw what I was doing. He says, I had nothing going on. He said, he didn't care what time I came home, what time I woke up. If I went to school, if I didn't go to school, if I did school, my dad could care less what I did. He says, you know what I did? I didn't want it to go back and live on my mom
Starting point is 00:10:28 because I wanted some order. So what's the point here? If you live with a parent that is not overbearing on you, what's the benefit? You get to do whatever hell you want to do. What's the disadvantages? You get to screw up and do some stupid things that some of that could ruin your life
Starting point is 00:10:44 for the rest of your life. Okay, so what is the happy medium here? I think that's the real thing. What is the happy medium? Is the happy medium a little bit to say, look dude, just keep your word with me. Let's have a relationship. What do you wanna do?
Starting point is 00:10:57 Pat, I wanna go out. No problem, you wanna bring your guys wanna do some dude over here. That I wanna go with these guys. Little bit of give and take with the kids so they can go and do a little bit of rebel and do what they want to do. But at the same time, you have enough
Starting point is 00:11:07 relation with the kind of trust with them. Okay, what is going on today, as far as policies goes, is you better listen to me or else. Did people get a rebel? Talking about Stabby, California, to try to, you're trying to lead your voters, your citizens in a way that you know what's right and they have no clue what they're like, they can't think for themselves. What do they think for themselves?
Starting point is 00:11:30 That's the mom in this case. I think California is being a mom. I think New York's being a mom and I think all they're doing is they're losing it. They're losing people to other states. Oh my gosh, they're losing people. Yeah, they're losing to other states. That's simple. The Exodus from New York had already started for the past few years.
Starting point is 00:11:45 This is pre-COVID. So I mean, things were going in the wrong direction. I mean, I was, when you compare New York under Giuliani, under Bloomberg, to what it's been under Di Blasio, again, pre-COVID, night and day, you don't want to walk past heaps of garbage on a hot summer day. You just don't. There's nothing and pay extra, you know, for the privilege. Well, can I, can I just follow up with you on that pack?
Starting point is 00:12:12 I like the analogy. I'd, but give me the, the dad, the Kevin Hart dad state where, hey, I do whatever the hell you want, buddy, but like there is some downsides to that. But tell me, tell me what state is doing that right now. That's what I'm asking. What I'm asking you is tell me one state that's doing that right now. That's just, hey, do whatever the hell you want. What state is telling you don't wear a mask.
Starting point is 00:12:31 What state is telling you don't social distance? What state is telling you, no, it's not Florida. I'm going to Florida. I hope no state is telling you. No, wait a minute. The house I was renting in Florida, you know what the lady said? I'm getting a good size house. The lady said, you can't have more than this many people in the house, not even visiting, right?
Starting point is 00:12:46 Right, now for Lauderdale County has a rule going on right now. You can't have more than 10 people in the house. That's for Lauderdale County, is just what they announced. So it's, it's, to save and track this. No, what I'm saying to you is to say, to say, to say that they don't have nothing. Florida's telling you where masks. Florida's telling you to be responsive.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Florida's telling you to be social distance. They're not requiring you. But what do you want to require me to do? You can't enforce me any ways to wear a mask. You can't tell me you better or else you're going to get arrested now. Well, here here in Texas, if you're in a public place, it is mandated that you have a mask on. Really? Yeah. Danielle, explain the Texas local. But public. Public. I, but if I go to, okay, I'll go to a restaurant. Okay, that I go to regularly. I'll walk in without a mask in this restaurant. Okay. And they'll like, okay, go. Come on down. And I'll go send a corner. They don't bother me. I'm good to go. There is that little bit of look we get it. Go sit over here. Now if I go
Starting point is 00:13:39 to Yardhouse, you know what the guy Yardhouse will say, he's a valetainer. Because like, what's up, Pat? You know what I got? You got to put this mask on. So I'll put the mask on and I go in. We know the restaurant you go to. But if you talk to small business owners, which you have, but a lot of small business owners are relieved by mask mandates in public places, because they know that they're gonna get more customers to come through the door if they know
Starting point is 00:13:59 that they're being rigorous in public places. So I tell you what we did. Here's what we're doing. At the front when somebody comes in, who's an employee, you get a chance to wear wristband. Okay, what are the wristbands say? Can you, can't, what, what did the three wristbands mean? A green yellow and red.
Starting point is 00:14:12 What does red mean, Kyle? Red means don't come near me. No handshakes. I'm six feet. Don't like completely quarantined. Stay away. Stay away. And you wear that wristband.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Okay, what does yellow mean? Yellow is not cool with handshakes. A little bit fit, you know, elbow bones. Elbow and what does green mean? Yeah, I'm cool with handshakes, a little bit, you know, elbow balls. And what does green mean? Green means like, I don't care, right? And guess what? Green means I've got immunity. Yeah, but if green means green, guys, I was so of your green, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:14:34 Man, everything good, good. But if you see red, hey, bro, everything good, everything good. I saw it. So you respect it. So what happens? That's a safe space. And we choose to do that as a company. I thought when the leadership team made a decision to do that,
Starting point is 00:14:45 they brought it to me. I said, genius idea guys, run with this. I love it. Well, I think even better than what you do. And this, I thought that it would wane, but every morning, every single employee here has to take their temperature. Yeah, so every morning,
Starting point is 00:14:57 it's like a mandatory. That's a business thing that we made a decision to make. I think it's a great idea to make people feel safe. So what I'm saying to you is no state is being fully irresponsible, saying go at it and do whatever the hell you want to do. No state is going to that point. Yes, Florida may not be, you know, a state level. A localities, as you mentioned, for a lot of help, they're making sure that people want
Starting point is 00:15:20 to continue to come. But guess what that means? What that tells me is the governor is saying, Danielle, I trust you. What do you want to do with your lawyer? Do this. Here's what we're going to do for a lot of the awesome. Here's what we're going to do in Broward County. Great.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Here's what we're going to do in Miami. I respect it. Go for it. They're empowering the local leaders to make a decision amongst their constituents. What they're saying is, here's, let's hear them out. That's what we're going to be doing. Now, I've got to tell you, I was in the Miami airport recently, and that was freaky. I mean, I thought I was gonna take a bath
Starting point is 00:15:49 in my sanitizing and kids. Really? What was going on? What was going on? Well, nobody had on their green bands, but they were all acting like it, and they were just all into each other's business, and- Well, that's what happens in my own double kids,
Starting point is 00:16:00 double miss old, the Z-tos give me a hug. That was, I mean, I was like, get me on the airplane, because I'll be safer inside of that tin can than I'm gonna be in this airport. Outside, yeah. And you know, the other part of it. That's culture, that's it. I was about to say, it's cultural thing.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I didn't Venezuela. I didn't Venezuela. I didn't Venezuela. When I see a more, a more and I see each other, it's a kiss on the cheek, okay? And a more is a, you know, 50 year old man, I'm a 50, a 40 year old man. Well, kiss, kiss, okay?
Starting point is 00:16:26 It's culturally Middle Eastern's were a little bit different, but you can't go to an American say, Mr. Jones, how are you? You know, everything good and you don't want any sucks. I'm not gonna get my like a bore out of the Middle Eastern community. It's like, you know, this is great. But they've done actual studies of the country of Italy and found that because they were so touchy-feely, culturally, that's why I don't disagree.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I don't disagree. Yeah, I don't disagree. And they have to learn how to show affection differently. I got to say something what happened last night, which was very interesting for me. Yesterday, you know, we chose the book winners, whoever bought the books at the beginning, we did something and yesterday we had a private webinar for these guys and it was spending an hour with them and just Questions, you know, back and forth. People from different parts of the country. One person was even on She was chosen and she bought the books
Starting point is 00:17:16 Didn't speak a lick of English but she was on because she's a diehard value tanner because she reads it with the captions on the bottom But she's a cook so we're sitting there talking And one of the guys, that's a tell me your story. So I go to one of these guys and he listened to Tuesday's podcast. He says, I've been watching you since I was in high school, 17 years old.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I said, okay, so how many years? Four, four, five years. Okay, cool. Once you've heard day September 23rd, tell me what's going on. Well, I run a business, you know, makes money selling products online. Okay. And he says, ever since he says, I went to Ohio University on an
Starting point is 00:17:48 entrepreneur program, full ride. When I went there, I joined the entrepreneur club that they had on campus. 160 students were part of this entrepreneur club. And when I went there, I said, how many of you guys run a business? He says, none of them. The only one that did left is as I'm out of here as well. So he leaves, oh, it leaves Ohio University, goes back, he lives in Vermont, I believe, and he's sitting there. He says, for the last eight months, I've been running my business selling online. I said, how you feeling?
Starting point is 00:18:14 I said, how you doing right now? He says, I'm an only child, he's a listen to the podcast, which you said about being an only child, you know, I grew up in an only child. I said, okay, I said, are you one of the weird ones? Are you one of those guys that where people make fun of you and you're a little bit weird, a little bit different in your entire life,
Starting point is 00:18:27 he says yes. And I mean, that club as well, so is my son. It's a little bit tough when you ask who you're 20 years old, you're at a rough age. It's very hard because you're trying to figure yourself out. I said, but how you doing being by yourself right now? He says, Pat, miserable. This kid was suicidal yesterday, okay?
Starting point is 00:18:42 So I'm talking to this guy and I said, hey, I just want you to know everything's gonna be all right. Like, don't overreact what's going on right now. Things are gonna get better. I said, you gotta go out there and talk to people. You can't be just isolated like this all by yourself. He says, do you remember this reaction? I said, you can't be like this all right.
Starting point is 00:18:58 How many minutes did he cry? Honestly, how long did he cry? I don't know. You know when you- On the Zoom. On the Zoom. For everyone to see. In front of everybody, this 2021,
Starting point is 00:19:09 I'm feeling like my body hurts a lot watching this guy. Like this guy is ready to just like, what is life what he's asking those types of questions. We having this conversation. And then I'm sitting there saying, okay, I see him, I see my son. My son is kind of like his personality. We're just gonna be a techie type of guy. And I'm like, yeah, and I'm looking there saying, okay, I see him. I see my son. My son is kind of like his personality. Where's going to be a techie type of guy?
Starting point is 00:19:27 And I'm like, yeah, and I'm looking there saying, dude, this kid needs to know everything's going to be all right. But guys, isolated. You got no relationships. You got no people around you. You're being told what to do. Follow on the laws. You're thinking you're being a good citizen.
Starting point is 00:19:39 But I can't sit there and say, how are you guys? Like even here, the other day, we're talking, right? So you're going through an issue. You're going through an issue and you say, hey, Kai, what's up? How you doing? Yeah, you know, it's just, you know, it is here, the other day, we're talking, right? So you're going through an issue. You're going through an issue and you say, hey, Kai, what's up? How you doing? Yeah, you know, it's just, you know, it is what it is, man, my girl and I just went through
Starting point is 00:19:51 a bad breakup. Oh, bro, I'm sorry to hear that. That I'm sorry to hear that. Took 20 pounds off your back. Somebody heard you out. A little bit of empathy. So I think, I think the part I'm trying to say is, you being a disciplined dad, what's the price, extreme rebellious?
Starting point is 00:20:06 You're being a too liberal dad. Hey, your kids can go out there and do stupid things. I think there's a part of it we have to also understand that people need to be around people. There's gotta be a little bit of camaraderie. Follow rules and guidelines, but I'm sorry, man, to sit around being isolated, there's a lot of consequences to that as well.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And that generation, I mean, that generation is the first generation to grow up completely where you don't have to converse. Where you can do, you can text your entire life. And that's, but I mean, but you never learn, you know, how relationships work. If you're doing everything in a vacuum, but here's a guy, but here's a guy that was pre pandemic, but during pandemic, he's followed the guideline. And he's been locked in a basement for eight months
Starting point is 00:20:53 to make sure he is being a good citizen, right? And he says, I'm in Vermont. Vermont's extremely liberal. I have to follow the guidelines that got here. He says, I'm thinking about leaving this place and you got to be around people, bro. I said, you got to be around, not 10. You go party gotta be around people, bro. I said, you gotta be around, not saying to go party, get hammered, get drunk.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I said, you gotta be around some people. You gotta go, you know, be around some people to talk to them. We need relationships. We need interaction. We need camaraderie. We need a release. I can't tell you how many executives,
Starting point is 00:21:20 it was 2012, 2013, when I was building a business, and at one point I'm like, we're about to go out of business. I have and at one point, I'm like, we're about to go out of business. I have no clue what the hell I'm doing. We're about to go out of business. I put my half a million dollars at 29 years old into the business that had saved up working in the financial and I'm like, dude, this is what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And then at 2012, I'm like, I'm running out of money. I got $13,000 on a Mac, 2011, 2012. I'm like, I can't talk to my wife because she's pregnant. She had the first miscarriage. We just talked about it earlier. You know, you know, apparently Adam just found out for the first time that seventy percent of first pregnancies, you have a miscarriage. And, you know, one of many things you don't know that they don't tell you before getting married, which there needs to be a book saying 200 things. They don't tell you prior to getting married. Actually, I don't tell you pride to get in there. Actually, I think that's the point. I don't think 200 would quite cover it. But okay, that's a good starting point.
Starting point is 00:22:07 I, I, he be in. I know, he would need to be a man and a woman because it's the first man to be a woman. So you sit there and you're thinking this and you're like, okay, so you know, a mischievous, I'm sitting on, I'm like, who do I talk to? I can't talk to my dad because my dad's gonna be like, I told you, you know, you shouldn't have done this.
Starting point is 00:22:27 You can't talk to your friends because your friends are like, well, we knew this was gonna be hard, why'd you do it? You can't talk to anybody. So you know what I said, I said, dude, I went and hired a therapist. Oh, absolutely. I found this guy who's terrible,
Starting point is 00:22:40 but you know what he was good at? You know, just listening. He was still, he never said anything. I tell you, every time it's like, so how was your week? Yeah. So I would go for one hour just bitching. And it's like, okay. I'm telling you, not one time did he give me advice.
Starting point is 00:22:56 It's okay, I'll see you two weeks from now. Okay, that was it. That was it. But you needed a sounding board. You need a sounding board. You found a sounding board. You found a sounding board. I found it and I would leave the place. I'm like, what a freaking stupid job.
Starting point is 00:23:09 This guy sits there seriously. You went back over and I went back because I just needed that release of an hour sitting telepherson. I remember one time I did relationship issues and all and correct me if I'm wrong, Danielle. Women just want to vent and you just have to listen So I remember I would always try to solve my girls problems. Well look you tell that girl
Starting point is 00:23:32 This is how you want to operate and you tell you're not gonna stand for this We want to listen. We don't want you and I just realized all have to be like no way Seriously here. Yeah stop it. No way way. Go on. Like that's all. That's all. Listen, you are qualified therapists. You're in the wrong business. You should go be therapists. But but the difference with you is the difference with you is you actually are curious. So you would not be the best therapist because you ask questions. And you know why that? Yeah, yeah. So but for him, he's just kind of like, hmm, got it. Okay. I'm thinking of a, I'm smelling a meme coming up right now.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Like Tony soprano insert PPD's head, the therapist. This is already working out. If it's already posted up somewhere. So the point, the point I'm trying to make. So what did that do for you? The point I'm trying to make to you is that's, I understood isolation in a level of a business where I can't go complaint to my wife because my wife is dealing with certain set of issues on her own.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I can't go to friends, I can't go to family, I can't go to my sister, I can't go to my buddies, I can't go to my board, I can't go to my carries, I can't, you can't. So in a situation like that, you need somebody to go. So now think about how many people are going through that right now with COVID. Yeah. Oh gosh. Think about how many people are going through that right now with COVID. Oh gosh. Think about how many people are going through that right now. In the last week, 885,000 have filed for hundreds instead of the 815. So last week we had a spike up in jobless claims to 845,000. Oh my gosh, what's happening? Well, it's probably a temporary blip
Starting point is 00:25:00 because California shut down blah blah blah. Just an anomaly. So economists this week were saying, you know, when the day to hit at 7.30 this morning, they were like, it's gonna go back down to 815,000. Instead, it popped up to 885,000. And when you add up all of the different programs that were legislated because of the CARES Act, you know, we've gone from 19 million in one week to 20 and a half million this week.
Starting point is 00:25:24 All the people in the United States collecting unemployment insurance benefits. That is something that a lot of people, that gives a lot of people shame. They don't want to talk to people about it. And they'll isolate. Because economic hardship is something that by definition, you don't want to talk to people about. You don't want to talk to your close ones about. I'm struggling. Christmas is coming. I can't afford to talk to people about. You don't want to talk to your close ones about. I'm struggling. It's Christmas is coming. I can't afford to put trees underneath it.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And so, you know, this is, I really am hoping that 2021 brings in, you know, you were a successful entrepreneur once. You lost your business. You know what, here's a program. Instead of paying you to not work, here's a program to help you jumpstart your entrepreneurial life again, start a new business again because now people can come to you. I want to see the, I don't want to become a nation of five stocks in the S&P 500 that are
Starting point is 00:26:20 out in Silicon Valley and big box retailers. Yeah. There's no soul there. Yeah. And what's it going to do to the entrepreneurship of this country? Because that's the backbone, small businesses of the backbone. So I mean, I want for our politicians in DC to pull their heads out of sand. Go there, Daniel. Go there. And put some programs out there that re-skill the workforce. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:26:42 So all the retailers are closed. You know, brick and mortar. Yeah. Fine. Get a new skill, do a new job. If you want to spend trillions of dollars, don't do the new green deal. Why don't you fix the pot holes and the falling bridges and repair the infrastructure nation, why didn't by the way, the hundred plus thousand oil and gas workers who've lost their jobs, they're ready to work tomorrow. I mean, I want to see our politicians be smart and help people who want to start businesses and have good work ethics be able to find opportunities instead of paying people to be isolated and sit in their homes and collect unemployment. So, is this what's the difference between what essentially you're suggesting versus what's
Starting point is 00:27:24 going on in Congress right now? Right now they're thinking about a $900 billion stimulus stimulus check. Some are saying $1200.00. What do you think of the bunch of those? Again, there are 10 million Americans. Of that 20 million plus pool of Americans collecting unemployment insurance, about half of them are gig workers. They're their contract workers. They're, they're, their contract workers, their self-employed. They're people who don't qualify for state unemployment insurance programs.
Starting point is 00:27:50 They don't pay into the unemployment insurance fund. So they never qualified for jobless claims in the first time. And the first, it's a cares act, extended jobless benefits to this big chunk of the workforce. I mean, we've become a gig economy in many ways. All of that expires on December the 26th. So the only thing is. Just the time for Christmas. The only thing that this bill is doing is it's going to extend that.
Starting point is 00:28:15 It's going to extend the rental eviction moratorium. Because you read about, I mean, right now, there is a lot of the people who are at risk of being evicted are single, single working mothers. I mean, that, I mean, you have to have family to fall back on to take a new and your kids. And there's probably going to be a $600 or $700 stimulus check in there as well, which
Starting point is 00:28:35 will give a boost to the economy. But it's not going to address any of the fundamental underlying issues. And that's what I, it's a bandit is what you're saying. It is a bandit. That's all, that's all it is. But what could they really do in a situation like this when both sides are kind of divided and the fact that we can't even get these guys on the same page to agree on, just send a check. You think they're going to sit there and negotiate on how to get people to,
Starting point is 00:28:55 how, how to make this money in a way that it's not just a handout being given to people? If they haven't gotten a reality check because unemployment is going up again in America. So if people aren't really angry, this close to the election at the people in Congress who have been fighting and backbiting this whole time, instead of doing their jobs, then something completely wrong. I mean, this is this is the stuff of this is a different kind of uprising that you're talking about. Because a lot of these people have not lost their incomes by any of their own doing as we've just been talking about. I agree.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I've just been talking about. Yeah. So, look, Georgia is, you know, I have to say the Georgia runoff elections on January the 5th, I'm going to say this out loud, they're more important than the presidential election. They are. They're that important. How close is it? Right now, it's neck and neck.
Starting point is 00:29:52 And for both races. For both races. And there's money pouring in. A couple hundred million dollars. There's money pouring in from all over the country because these two races are effectively a referendum on socialism. So, you know, if you keep the Senate read, then you can negotiate, I think, for smarter programs. If you get this blue wave and the Senate flips to the Democrats and the Democrats control the House and the
Starting point is 00:30:21 Senate and the administration, And they start to legislate in universal basic income. Again, these are programs that are designed to pay people to not work. Well, go there. No pride in that. No pride in that. Sates January 6th. We wake up the, you know, liberals win both. Okay. So now it's 50-50 with the tiebreaker going to Kamala Harris, right? Say that it's all of a sudden Kamala Harris has power Exactly. Exactly and Kamala is more left than Biden is but more way some caller further left than even Sanders, but let's just say she's more left than Biden is right? Let's just keep keep that part
Starting point is 00:30:59 January 6th they win both what happens? You get chatter about the new green deal. I mean, you're talking about... Tell me chatter versus execution, because chatter has been going on. Do you think things would be executed? Oh, no, no, of course. So give me what things would be executed.
Starting point is 00:31:15 What do you think? No, I mean, we are talking about healthcare for everybody. We're talking about universal basic income. We are talking about the idea of paying people to be out of work forever. And that is just so anti-American. We have no reason to vote socialism into law and kiss our economy goodbye and watch China rise up
Starting point is 00:31:44 because I can guarantee you that if China isn't any way interfering with this election, it is pouring money into those two democratic candidates. Period end. Full stop. Because if we go socialist, that is the nail in the coffin of capitalism, and we can kiss our reserve currency status goodbye, the greenback will no longer have hedge money on the world stage.
Starting point is 00:32:06 All of these things, and we get inflation, by the way. And we get inflation because we stop worrying about debt and deficits when people running the country don't think that there's any consequence for a $10 trillion 2021, 2022 spending spree. So it's basically dogs and cats living together. It's anarchy. But, but let's go there. Okay, let's just say it happens. Okay. Now let's just see. You know, I want to go there. Let's just see universal basic income passes. And Andrew
Starting point is 00:32:35 Yang becomes, uh, you know, a, he's already said he's right. He's essentially running from mayor of New York City. No, no, okay. So the half does another people we can name. Yes, but yes, yes. Well, by the way half does another people we can name? Yes, but yes. Yes. Well, by the way, he's a credible name to run. Let's just yeah. Yeah, so you're valuable. So you're valuable is the right word.
Starting point is 00:32:51 So, but let's just say we're there, January 6th happens. And then at this point of the game, everyone calls Biden. Now that you have it, AOC, you know, the whole defense, we got to make climate change, apart of that budget. Next is a universal basic income. It's next Medicare for for all health care for all unemployment benefits extended you know Extreme regulation extreme censorship everyone if possible
Starting point is 00:33:16 Court packing that we can raise it from seven to nine to eleven to thirteen to fifteen. Let's just say we go that The sky's the limit, but let's just say we go there You know the part that I want to ask, and I ask Larry Arndt, who's the president of Hillsdale College, which I don't know if you're familiar with Hillsdale College, we're going to have to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one.

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