PBD Podcast - Zelenskyy Oval Office Meeting, Trump Tariffs In Effect, Epstein Files Update | PBD Podcast | Ep. 556
Episode Date: March 4, 2025Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick are joined by Jillian Michaels as they cover the Trump tariffs on Mexico and Canada going into effect, TSMC's $100B investment in... the United States, Tim Walz running for President in 2028, and the world's reaction to PBD's exclusive interview with Andrew Tate.------☘️ ST. PATRICK'S DAY COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3EX16tt🖥️ MINNECT CIRCLES WEBINAR: https://bit.ly/4hVTkPK👕 GET THE LATEST VT MERCH: https://bit.ly/3BZbD6l📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4📰 VTNEWS.AI: https://bit.ly/3OExClZ🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/4g57zR2🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw/📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
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Episode 556.
Gang, last night we had a friend in town,
Jillian Michaels, the great Jillian Michaels. We went to dinner last night we had a friend in town Julian Michaels the great Julian
Michaels we went to dinner last night Alcasa D'Angelo let me tell you I had no
idea how much of a die-hard Andrew Tate fan she was. She was like where is he?
yeah I thought we're gonna have dinner together, and it was like the entire time. You had to grab her to come back. That's what I came for.
Yeah.
I mean, you guys, drop liver.
She sat down and said no, Andrew,
and almost ran out of the restaurant.
So I'm happy I was like, grab you.
If it wasn't for the carpaccio, I was out, man.
Let me tell you, you know what I wouldn't mind doing?
Here's what I'd love to do.
I'd love to see Andrew sit in between four ladies
and do a show and him being grilled
and see how he takes it, how he handles himself.
I'd love that.
Well, let's see.
We've already seen.
Jillian, but I'd like to see what you would do.
I would curb stomp him.
Stop.
I cannot.
This is despicable character.
Really? There we go. Curb stomp him. Like a. I cannot, he is a despicable character. Really?
There we go.
Curb stomp him.
Oh, pistol whip.
American history, yeah.
Pistol whip.
Edward Norton.
That's right, Adolf.
That's the first thing I thought about, Edward Norton.
Yeah, man.
You think so?
That's what I'm talking about.
All right, so maybe, listen, maybe we'll
Is there like a little bit of sexual?
Remember, he is, he's got zero.
No.
Well, listen, I can tell you, sexual tendency there? None? Zero? He's got zero? No.
Well, listen, I can tell you,
anytime we have interesting guests on,
whether it's him,
whether it's, I can have a list of 20 guys that we've had on,
how could you?
I cannot believe this and I cannot believe that.
And I'll tell everybody every time.
Be patient.
We're gonna do many more of these.
You're not gonna like them.
We're gonna talk to people.
You don't like them.
You have the right to have your opinion. We're gonna have the conversation of these you're not gonna like them. We're gonna talk to people you don't like them You have the right to have your opinion
We're gonna have a conversation and it can go from there what we will do is we will have that combo my biggest thing was when
People are even afraid of hearing the other side for you to not be able to decipher for yourself and see how here's I
Disagree, I agree with that part. That's why we'd love to see the two of you guys one day chopping it up
Anyways guys stories to cover here today
few things one
Mexico Canada tariffs will be implemented due to unacceptable
Drug flows Trump says the moment he starts announcing it the Dow drops 650 yesterday
Just so you guys know so the market is panicking a little bit
Bloomberg does a story talking about the fact that car prices are poised for $12,000 surge
on Trump's new tariffs.
Hexed warned of military action if Mexico fails to meet Trump's border demands.
Trump promises to pardon Pete Rose.
Pete Rose, are you kidding me?
The Pete Rose like all time hitter.
Unfortunately, I like the way he said it.
I wish he could have experienced being alive
to go to the Hall of Fame.
That's a shame that that never happens,
but can you imagine he wants to pardon him?
Trump rips Zelensky for calling into Ukraine war
very, very far away.
Worst statement that could have ever been made.
Zelensky won't apologize to Trump,
but calls clash not good for both sides.
Not good for both sides. Not good for both sides.
Zelensky meets with British Prime Minister Keir Starmer in London following
Trump's Oval Office clash. Trump says the Ukraine mineral deal not dead yet, the
deal, but Zelensky should be more appreciative.
Bill Maher endorses a Trump-like Democrat to run for president. He doesn't dress
like a Trump, but there is a Trump-like Democrat. Wait till you see who that person is. AOC asks NPR host
to clarify the problem when he asks about migrant crisis concerning voters. Clarify
the problem. Can you imagine that? Andrew Cuomo is launching his mayoral bid in New
York City. California waits for Harris's decision for governor race, but folks,
some good news here for some of you guys that want some good news. I don't know how your
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Rahm Emanuel who's a guy who's been on the left, Chicago politics, says we have disaster on crime in some damn cities due to permissiveness and
then says as a kid I would have pretended to be trans to get into girls rooms but the
issues talk about too much so he's kind of being sarcastic about it but that's one of
the topics we'll talk about.
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Microsoft who shut down video calling pioneer,
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Boomers are struggling to land that one job
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We're gonna play the clip of Jamie Dimon.
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California's minimum wage, $20, has sparked major job losses.
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Seattle's original Starbucks officially closed down.
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Let's start off, Rob, with the whole Zelensky-Trump issue,
which got a little bit out of control.
So we all saw a clip of the exchange between the two
that the moment Zelensky started threatening
that hey, you have some things
that you have to worry about as well, and that wasn't a good look when he went there.
We've seen this clip, Rob.
If you can fast forward to maybe 30 seconds when he tries to say things about President
Trump and he's not right there, that's good.
Watch this clip here.
I'm sure you've seen it, but we'll repeat it.
Go ahead, Rob.
And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of
America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your
country?
A lot of questions.
Let's start from the beginning.
Sure.
First of all, during the war, everybody has problems.
Even you.
But you have nice ocean and don't feel now.
But you will feel it in the future.
God bless.
You don't know that. God bless. You don't know future. God bless you don't know that God bless you
God bless you will not have war don't tell us what we're gonna feel. We're trying to solve a problem
Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. I'm not telling you because you're in no position to dictate that remember
There's no you're in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel
We're gonna feel very good
we're going to feel. We're going to feel very good. We're going to feel very good and very strong. You're right now not in a very good position. You've allowed yourself to be in
a very bad position and it happens to be right about now. You're not in a good position.
You don't have the cards right now. With us you start having cards. But right now you're
not playing cards. You're playing cards. You'm not playing cards. I'm not playing cards. I'm not playing cards. I'm not playing cards.
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I'm not playing cards. I'm not playing cards. I'm not playing cards. I'm not playing cards. I'm not playing cards. Zelensky, and America will not put up with it much longer. It is what I was saying. This guy doesn't want there to be peace as long as he has America's backing and Europe
in the meeting they had with Zelensky.
Stated flatly that they cannot do the job without the US.
Probably not a good, not a great statement to have been made in terms of show of strength
against Russia.
What are they thinking?
After a fiery Oval Office clash, Trump said you're either going to make a deal or we're
out. And if we're out, you'll fight it out. I don said you're either going to make a deal or we're out.
And if we're out, you'll fight it out.
I don't think it's going to be very pretty.
So that being said, Rob, yesterday, stories trending that President Trump ends the aid
to Ukraine.
Okay?
And we saw that.
I don't know if you have that or not, Rob.
Where he flat out says we're ending the aid to Ukraine.
Is this the clip, Rob?
So I have Fox News reporting. I don't have Trump, but I can find it. No, it's okay. This is the one they out says we're ending the aid to Ukraine. Is this the clip, Rob? So I have Fox News reporting.
I don't have Trump, but I can find it.
No, it's okay.
This is the one.
They're saying they're ending the aid.
This is the clip.
I've seen this as well.
Play this clip.
Tomorrow, Brian, our Lucas Tomlinson reporting, the United States is pausing all U.S. military
aid to Ukraine until President Trump determines the Ukrainians show a commitment of good faith
peace negotiations.
That's according to a senior Trump administration telling Fox.
This is not a permanent termination of aid.
It is a pause.
The orders are going out right now.
The officials said this in response to Ukrainian President Zelensky's conduct over the last
week and his words over the weekend.
So it's all stopping.
Now, keep in mind, the aid is done. I'll show the next story and then I want to get a reaction from you guys here pull up the story from CBS
I just sent you rap. So while all this stuff is going on
Putin's been saying what does this guy really want and what did NATO promise they would never do and what did Bush promise?
What did us promise what did NATO promise?
We will never want to do anything with Ukraine being part of NATO.
Now watch this.
Ukraine's Zelensky says he would give up presidency in exchange for peace and NATO membership.
This guy is trying to negotiate a deal into getting into NATO.
All of this stuff that's taking place back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
And then the UK Prime Minister, UK President comes out defending Kim, saying the mineral deal is not going to happen.
It's not this, it's not that. So they're making it even tougher. Go ahead and play this clip Rob.
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First, we will keep the military aid flowing and keep increasing the economic pressure
on Russia to strengthen Ukraine now.
Second, we agreed that any lasting peace must ensure Ukraine's sovereignty and security,
and Ukraine must be at the table.
Third, in the event of a peace deal, we will keep boosting Ukraine's own defensive capabilities
to deter any future invasion.
Fourth, we will go further to develop a coalition of the willing to defend a deal in Ukraine
and to guarantee the peace.
Not every nation will feel able to contribute contribute but that can't mean that we
sit back. You can pause it. Instead Tom your thoughts on the story. So boy where
do you go on this? I think everybody has seen the all of the historical constructs
and there's been a lot of people that Old speeches and things that are on Twitter showing where this started and this didn't start with Russia's invasion
This goes back to 2014. This goes back into
overthrowing a rightful president and putting in a new
Regime in Ukraine and this goes back to the progressive Eastward expansion of
NATO and
You know Russia keeps saying hey stop you said you weren't going to do this Can you stop that and then the Baltic States and then the southern states and then Georgia and it's like stop
And so now you've got Europe over there saying we're gonna back you up
We're gonna do this and back you up
you have to remember where this started and know Russia shouldn't have invaded there and just the heartfelt loss
of life that's happened in Ukraine to all the average citizens. This is horrifying.
The count that everybody keeps talking about is a million Ukrainians have lost their lives in this
conflict. This is horrible. It's like 10 COVIDs. And so, you know, I look at all of Europe, you're going to back up this guy and give him a
backstop that gives him no, he doesn't have to find a peace deal with Russia. He doesn't have to
negotiate with Russia. He can keep flipping off Putin because these people are going to back him
up now. So how do you get Ukraine to the table to say, Hey, look, we've got to find a way forward on this?
And to me, I find it very, very difficult.
And what's equally galling to me is there's
things that the media and the other foreign countries
aren't talking about.
It's just how much we gave as grants versus giving as loans.
Can you pull up that chart, Rob?
Can you pull up that chart?
Just go straight to my Twitter account.
So it's complicated, but underneath, I'm pretty torqued. Torked? that chart Rob? Can you pull up that chart? Just go straight to my Twitter account. So it's complicated but underneath I'm pretty
I'm pretty I'm pretty torqued. Torqued? Torqued? He doesn't like torqued. No no.
I just was picturing. Ben out of shape. I got you Tom. Here's the word. I was picturing Tom.
I think I'm on your page. Check this out guys. 100%. BBC okay look at this.
Government support to Ukraine blue is loans
Green is grant gray is guaranteed look at us only a third of what we've given as a loan
Green is grant. Okay, look at you. They're like, yeah, we'll give you a loan But you better pay back EU knows how to negotiate and get the money back a little bit of grant a little bit of guarantee
And then you have everybody else the question becomes why are taxpayers, why are we just giving it away?
Why can't we get the money back?
Why can't he go negotiate on behalf of Americans?
Why can't Trump go and say, here's the things that I want, if you don't give it to us, we're
not supporting you anymore.
Why not?
And by the way, if Kyr is comfortable giving more money to them, go ahead and do it.
You guys got money, go give it to them.
We don't need to do it.
If you feel so compelled, anybody in the EU should be more interested in the protection of Ukraine than us
US should be interested in Canada and Mexico everybody else in the you pay up you go do it
We understand we support your decision, but you ought to risk that money with your taxpayers not us so Tom
You're making a very good point with that Jillian. What do you think about this connect one more?
How do you think you is is gonna get paid back their loan
if there's no money in Ukraine?
Minerals, yeah of course.
The thing that they don't want us to have.
That's right, Jillian.
I actually wanna play devil's advocate
and ask a few questions.
I'm 100% with Tom.
I think there were a million off ramps.
I do think we provoked this,
or not us as Americans,
but our companies provoked this because we've taken their farming lands.
As you've educated me on, BlackRock and JP Morgan had the $400 billion contract to go in and rebuild.
So that said, Ukraine is the loser across the board as far as I can tell.
They have lost all of their resources from what I can, again, what
I'm observing. Why would we not honestly, I'm not saying continue to fund the war 100
percent. No, nobody wants that. We want this over. But why would we not say, listen, if
you do this deal, and you're so convinced that Putin's going to overstep, should it
happen again, it will step in, we'll help protect you.
Why would we not do that if we are invested in extracting minerals and our big ag companies
like ADM and Monsanto on Cargill are using their land, they're leasing the breadbasket
there?
What would be the reason to not give them that assurance?
US. Why would we not?
Why would we not provide the assurance that if Russia broke the ceasefire,
because this is what he's saying, he's like, you can't trust him.
He's going to break the ceasefire.
He's going to come in. He's going to write.
And Trump is saying, no way.
No, you have the assurance here.
If we do business with you, that's not going to happen.
And he's going, I just don't feel that confident.
I'm not an as Zylinski advocate
I'm just asking you why would we not say like we're sure but if he oversteps and if he breaks the ceasefire
Blah blah blah will provide support not that I want to be doing that
But if we're taking their minerals, I can kind of see why the request is there. Yeah, so to me
Kind of what we talked about last night is the following if a company hires a new CEO, okay?
John has been running this company as a CEO for the last 10 years
I get hired the new CEO comes in they bring new executive team
The first thing the new CEO does is they go through all the contracts that we have to try to see a way to negotiate
So if I'm an insurance CEO and I go to another company and I have experience and I know all these carriers
I'll go to a company. I'll look at all their contracts and I'll say,
hey, I'm sorry, this carrier only pays you guys 130?
Yeah.
Only 130%?
Yes.
And you guys have so much premium, you send them 40 million a year.
Why are you guys only getting 130?
I was getting 145 and I was only sending them 20 million a year.
Are you kidding me?
No.
This is ridiculous.
Let me call them up right here.
Hey, Johnny, yes.
Is it true that you guys only pay us 130 hundred and thirty points and we give you 40 million here
Yes, you got 24 hours to bump that up to 150 million
So I make my money back of the last six years for the company or else we're no longer doing business with you that premium
Is going somewhere else. That's what the new CEO is doing now the previous CEO. Why did he do 130?
I don't know what were the side favors was he invited to Was he invited to? I don't know all those side deals. I
was not in the negotiating room. So to me, it's not just about why wouldn't we back
them up. You think Trump wants a world war? You think Trump wants people to go out there
another world war three happening under his watch? He doesn't want that. He doesn't
want any of that stuff.
It seems Zelinsky thinks, again, I'm just playing devil's advocate for the people that
I argue with on the other side.
For sure, of course, yeah.
And because I'm not an expert in geopolitics.
But if I'm Zelinsky, I'm going to want the assurance.
If I'm giving away 50% of our minerals, I would ask the same thing.
No, I wouldn't do it that way.
Really?
I've already given you money.
Taxpayers have already given you money.
What are we getting for reassurance for what we've given you the last three and a half,
four years? What is our reassurance? Not yours. Look,
so think about the gated community you live in, okay? If in your gated community, there's
a, what do you call it, when every month people get...
A gate of security?
No, there's a meeting that they have in a... Tom, what is that called?
Homeowners?
Homeowner's Association meeting.
Homeowner's Association meeting.
Homeowner's Association meeting.
Homeowner's Association meeting. Homeowner's Association meeting. Homeowner's Association meeting. Homeowner's Association meeting. Homeowner's Association. HOA. HOA meeting. So that I never go to.
But let's just say there's this Homeowner's Association that Jennifer goes to, right?
And then she gives me an update.
So these Homeowner's Association meetings.
Imagine we go in there and one of the guys says, hey, the security we got is 85 years
old.
He's letting people in.
We had another car that was robbed.
I think we got to hire a new security firm and the guys have to be former military, licensed
to carry, and we have to pay that.
To do that currently we're paying this guy $17 an hour.
To do that is going to be $32 an hour.
That means all of us instead of paying $600 a month, it's going to go to $900 a month.
And then everybody looks around and says, you know what?
I'm with it.
Let's do it.
Great.
Now, why should we all care about that homeowner association?
Because we all live in that gated community. Now trip out on this.
You ready?
Let's say another gated community in Fort Lauderdale
that is 3,000 miles away from where you live, okay?
Comes up to you and says, hey guys, check this out.
Our community is not safe, we're getting robbed.
We want you to contribute to our homeowner association
to make our gated community safer. you're sitting there saying wait a minute
What did you say? Yeah, we want your money to protect our gated community. So what does this mean? Wait a minute
I'm already protecting my gated community. What is our gated communities called US Canada Mexico?
It's called we spend three point four percent of our annual budget
Mexico spends 0.7%, Canada spends 1.1% of
their GDP military expenditure.
We're already making our gated community safer.
Why do we need to make Ukraine's gated community safer?
That's the question.
And Trump's asking the right question because if that's the case, EU should be paying more
money than everybody else, not us.
We're not on there all the time.
We'll contribute a little bit, but number one more than anybody else with nothing in return.
No, 100% not, but I get, and then I'll drop it.
It's just simply because the reason
we would make their gated community safer
is out of Zelinsky's mouth, I didn't take money,
I got weapons.
Well, who profited off the weapons?
Our defense contractors.
Who was forced to reform their laws about their farming
land and give up leases to our big ag companies. They were. So now our defense contractors are
making money. Our big ag contractors are making money. And now we're going to be taking their
minerals. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't be defending. I'm simply saying, if we are stripping
them of resources, and then you've got Black Rock
and JP Morgan going into rebuild, that would be our investment in their gated community.
And what happens, let's just say now Zelensky signs it and Putin does go in contrary to what
Trump says and what I don't believe will happen, but he does go in and Zelensky is right.
Then what actually do we do now that we are invested there?
Would we step up to the plate if Putin decided to push further?
Okay, so you're assuming 100% of all the money that was given is all military weapons.
There's AIDS, there's humanitarian aid, there's cash, there's different things that was given. What that number of the $113 billion
or whatever the number is, $140 billion, we don't know. We want to
know that. So the claims of the kind of money, he's making the claims of what
they're doing, they're coming through. All of that stuff that people talk about,
you know, whether it's true or not, I don't think we'll ever find out. If we do,
it's because someone's gonna come out and someone's getting killed. Okay. If something happens to Zelensky, that's the part. In regards to Russia, let's talk, if we're
talking about the military industrial complex that these guys want all these contracts to be
able to sell more weapons. No problem. We talked about this again last night. The one number no
one talks about. What is Putin in the way of? Think about it. What is Putin in the way of? Think about it.
What is Putin in the way of?
The one thing nobody talks about.
Rob, can you Google which country
has the most natural resources, okay?
And folks, if you're listening to this,
I don't want you to say anything.
I want them to guess.
Shocking.
Can you, don't show it, you showed it already.
Can you guess how many people how much money of?
natural resources
Russia has that Putin is in the way of other companies going in there and having access to this
You know what the numbers you think is 10 trillion you think is 20 trillion 22 trillion 23 trillion, right?
Can you pull up what the numbers would write with Russia on?
75
trillion Dollars is what they have.
That's unfathomable.
What?
By the way, can you pull up the ranking of number one to number two to number three to
number four to number five, ranking of countries by natural resources?
Geez.
That's not even- By natural resources.
There's a leader's bulletin.
That's not even weird.
Look at it.
Look at it.
We're at 45 trillion.
They're nearly 2X us excess go to the next one Rob
Okay, Saudi Arabia is 34 all that oil Russia's doors 75 trillion Canada 33 Brazil 22
Where is Venezuela? Where's everybody else you tell my 75 trillion?
So he's in the way of somebody wanting to get access to that right there
So look at Canada Iran is 27, China's
23 trillion, Brazil's 22, Australia's 20, Iraq 16, Venezuela that's like oil, oil, oil, is sixth
of what Russia is. These people that are these big behemoth companies like the Black Rocks,
the State Trees, the Vanguard, they're like, hey man, we want to get access to that. We want to do
business there. There's a guy in the way saying you can't. They have to get rid of that guy.
This was same case with Iran. Shah was in the way. They got to get rid of that guy. They got to find
they got to get rid of this guy. So Putin's not playing ball. I'm not sitting here telling you
he's an angel and all this other stuff. I do want to play one clip to get your reaction on it. Okay.
You've done work with Bill and Hillary Clinton and you had a very good experience with them.
I did.
Just so you know.
I listen, I've changed teams but in all transparency I worked with the administration on health
matters.
How were they to you?
They were very lovely to me.
Bill is extraordinarily charismatic though.
For sure.
I mean he's got it down to his science.
This guy will remember a story about your sick chihuahua ten years later
He's like how's Baxter? How's your little dog and you're just like wow, I mean
Okay, so would you say he's one of the best politicians? Oh, that's 40 horse. Would you put him ahead of Obama? Yes
I would as well. Okay. Yes. This is when he was asked about Putin in
2013 look at his answer. Go ahead Rob Well, okay. Yes. This is when he was asked about Putin in 2013.
Look at his answer.
Go ahead, Rob.
Look, Mr. Putin, he's very smart.
You know him better than most people.
Yeah, I do.
What was he like behind closed doors away from the public utterances?
Smart and remarkably, we had a really good blunt relationship.
How blunt?
Brutally blunt.
Ever like, you know, 50-cups?
No, but I think, you know, I think the right strategy most of the time is, but it's frustrating
to people in your line of work.
You should be brutally honest with people in private.
And then if you want them to help you,
try to avoid embarrassing them in public.
Now sometimes they do things which make it impossible
for you to keep quiet.
But by and large, I found all the people I dealt with
appreciated it if I told them the truth.
How I honestly felt and what our interests were
and what our objectives were.
And they also appreciated it when I didn't kick them around
in public for as long as I couldn't kick them around.
So, you know, that's my experience.
Did Deputin ever renege on a personal agreement he made to you?
He did not.
So behind closed doors, he could be trusted?
He kept his word in all the deals we made.
Bingo. Oh, bingo. So that's Bill Clinton. So do you trust Bill Clinton is telling the truth?
Do you think he's telling a lie? You know what you said last night that was so
interesting about you? This is why I love you so much. You said such a unique thing
last night. We're sitting there, it's very obvious you're not a Tate fan. No. Okay. I
won't tell the whole context of the conversation because it's private.
I don't mind at all.
Go ahead.
No, no, no.
But when I was talking about different individuals and we talked about the different individuals
and I said, which one of these names do you think would be most honest with you?
I don't think it's necessary for me to give the other names, but you said, even though
I don't agree with him and I can't stand him,
I think he would tell me the truth
even though I would disagree with him, right?
You said that yesterday.
Okay, so this doesn't mean they're boys.
This doesn't mean they're kicking it
going to Casa D'Angelo tonight.
This doesn't mean they're gonna go have sushi
and talk hockey, Russia and stuff like that.
No, he's just telling you,
I'm going against a boss that keeps his word.
Okay, and maybe that's why Trump and Putin get along
and Trump and Zelensky don't get along.
Maybe that's because Zelensky's playing games
and Putin's just kind of like,
this is who I am, what do you wanna do?
So to me, I don't know, I'm not in it.
I don't talk to any of these guys.
I don't have a relationship with any of these guys.
I'm just a business guy that's been in weird rooms
at a much, much, much smaller scale
that you watch people playing games
and then you have to position everybody
and say, what is that guy trying to
Do what does he want from this deal? How is this guy benefiting? What is he fear if this deal gets done?
Those are the things I pay attention to and in this scenario
I think
Putin's in a way of 75 trillion dollars and a money people are like you guys think 400 billion is money in Ukraine to rebuild that
Place shit so the country's got 75 trillion
How the hell do we get that kind of money, access to that?
I think that's what people want,
that they don't have access to right now.
And they're willing to do that and start World War III
that could potentially kill all of us.
But Pat, you guys mentioned 2014.
I don't know if you guys remember,
Joe Biden's CIA director, the past one,
his name was William J. Burns.
In 2008, he was a US ambassador to Russia.
He expressed his concerns regarding
Ukraine's potential NATO membership
in a confidential cable called Nyet Means Nyet,
Russia's NATO enlargement readiness.
He wrote, Ukrainian entry into NATO
is the brightest of all red lines for Russia elite,
not just Putin.
He said this could potentially split the country in two.
And what people
don't like I don't get what people it's not computing. You're you're trying to put NATO
push missiles and bases closer to Russia. If somebody right now Gillian was like you
know what China was like of course coming in the Mexico never allow it. We're going
to build a new one. Never allow it. We would hold on. We would bomb and fight everybody.
Well it was called the Cuban. Thank you. Yes, thank you, which almost caused a war.
But what drives me crazy...
We kind of went IRL on that one.
Yeah, we did.
But what drives me crazy is this blind liberal...
It is a liberal support with the...
I stand with Ukraine, okay?
Which they can't even point it out on a map.
Okay, and Ukraine doesn't even align with our values.
For instance, first off, gay marriage is illegal in Ukraine.
So all these people that have the pride flag with the Ukrainian flag, you're an idiot.
It's like the gays for Gaza.
Go to Gaza.
Go to Gaza and see how they treat you.
It's lovely there.
Go check it out.
They don't support what they fight for.
And the number, the two thing, as two veterans, Jillian, what they're doing right now, men
in Russia, I showed a little clip of Rob, can you pull this up?
And I wanted the audio of the guy screaming.
They are running up to grown men,
young guys, fathers, sons, uncles,
and grabbing them, it's called conscription.
They're grabbing them, throwing them in a van,
and putting them in the front lines to die, okay?
What happened to my body, my choice?
Body autonomy.
These people are not.
That doesn't exist.
I mean, yeah, yeah, it doesn't mean shit.
These guys, like, there all audio on this yes
Can you imagine but listen to the audio the guy screaming?
He's walking his dog, and then this is the Ukrainian officials or military your foot look at he's running
He knows and he's gone
Frontlines and he's gone and Rob you can jump a little bit forward Robbie the dog is going think that guy wants to fight
Yeah, look at this. Grabbing him, screaming,
doesn't want to go. Okay, Rob, you can do that. So it's just, it drives me crazy of
all this support, all of our tax dollars, when at the end of the day you don't even
know what the hell. I stand with Ukraine. When I see that sign, I stand with Ukraine,
it should say, I bend over for Ukraine. I'm tired of it, all the money, all the, and you
nailed it. It's follow the money. And Ukraine. Remember Russia. It's like Putin, Putin price hike Putin this he's the best. Give me a
break. That whole that sales pitch isn't it's not selling anymore to me. I couldn't agree with you
more. I'm just saying if we're trying to bring an end that that's all and that we're I feel like
Ukraine has been raped pillaged and plundered and Zelensky is just a puppet. And we obviously installed him through the National Endowment for Democracy and funded
that coup that Tom mentioned in 2014, or at least it sure seems that way.
And this has all been driven by money, just like you say, follow the money.
I just feel like we got or not we don't want to say we because it's not us in the room.
It's not Americans,
but whoever wanted this got what they wanted.
Whoever provoked this, don't move NATO eastward.
We added 14 countries, put it on Putin's border.
Like obviously you know, Niyad means Niyad,
you knew what you were doing, you got what you wanted.
And that's the only part where I'm like, well, okay,
you got the farmland, you got the minerals, you got the money for the bombs you got the contract to
rebuild you can grab all of their resources even further and 35 exit I
just wonder why that he wouldn't be like sure sure sure if he comes in we'll
we'll step in but I hear everything you're saying and I know Americans don't
want that I'm not saying continue funding it but I'm gonna come to you
Rob can you do me a favor pull up a poll from guardian that Thomas souls Twitter account whoever runs that account
We've spoken multiple times great job running that account Rob. It's it's in the note section that I have if you do
Yeah, okay. It's fine. No, no go. Go. Where you going? It's fine. Go right there. Go lower lower lower lower
Some of these guys tweet so often that you
So look you find it so then go go to the notes section Rob that I have.
Go to the notes section.
If you go there you'll see a poll.
This is a poll asking how people, okay, in EU, most Europeans, how they feel about Ukraine.
And it's such an interesting thing because it's two separate polls.
Right there.
Okay.
Zoom in.
So zoom in first to read the top.
Most Europeans feel Ukraine is not getting enough Western support.
Okay?
But watch before we go to the next one.
Are the current measures against Russia and aid given to Ukraine enough to prevent a Russian
victory?
Red is not enough.
Light grays don't know.
Blue is enough.
More than enough. Look at that. 66% say not enough. light grays don't know, blue is enough, more than enough.
Look at that.
66% say not enough.
Denmark, Sweden, Spain.
The lowest one is France, 52% not enough.
The middle one gray is like, I don't know.
And then the blue is, yeah, it's more than enough.
12, 16, 13, 11, 20, 15, 18%.
Now they changed the question.
This is the Guardian.
And Guardian is supportive of Ukraine.
Go a little bit lower and see what the next question is. However, only a minority think their
country should increase the support. No shit Sherlock! How should your country
manage support giving to Ukraine? Increase it, maintain it, don't know, reduce it.
Now look at it, increase only 29% Sweden. Look at Denmark. Go to the top, Denmark
was number one at what 60 something percent?
It's not enough what we get this entitlement Pat
This is not and then go lower and then they're like what no gets this
It's like they work half the work week that we do
Yeah, they've got like, you know their health care is covered and it's all because we pay for the majority of the defense
What is this entitlement that I am baffled by?
By the way, wouldn't you be like excited
if a dumb American negotiator agrees to pay more
towards a country that's a border to you than you?
How awesome of a negotiator.
You gotta give credit to EU for negotiation
they did with Biden's administration.
You're not even bordered to this country,
but you can more than we do.
Send the money, but we won't. Look at these numbers. It's embarrassing. So socialism is
anytime people want to give your money, but they just don't want it to be their money. That's what
they have a problem with, Tom. No, that's exactly right. What's very interesting here, how many of
you think your sister should go to college and that should and, and, and that the fun should be there. All of our three brothers and sisters raise their hands, right? Yes. Okay. So who
wants to give up their iPad and their summer sports so that we can put the money for your
sisters? Everybody runs out of the kitchen. Yeah, that's exactly just Adam. Well, a lot
of these countries already socialist to begin with, with so they don't mind being taxed at 50%.
What's 51% because it's already just gonna lead
to basically being high taxed.
Well no, they said no.
But most countries are already used to being taxed.
I know, what I'm saying is when it comes down to
should we increase it, they're saying no.
Finally.
So basically it's like when you get pushed and pushed
and pushed and pushed and pushed,
at some point you're gonna be like,
all right, enough's enough.
But you asked an interesting question earlier about personalities you
know people you talk about 2014 what happened nobody gives a shit about the
Donbass region I get it people there they talk about this but what happened
in the Russians that were there getting getting shelled seemed to care exactly
but the world doesn't really care about that what happened in 2019 is really
what we should remember because in 2019 is really what we should remember. Because in 2019 is when
Zelensky got elected. Right. And then shortly after that, if you remember this, Trump had
a perfect call with him. And we learned the term quid pro quo. Remember that? You know,
these buzzword terms that get thrown in the world and then never heard from again, like
cofee feet and whatever happened with that. So qu, go pro, quit, go go. He's saying
Rudy Giuliani was apparently pressuring Zelensky to investigate a hunter Biden. Do you remember
all this stuff? Do you remember all this stuff? Oh yeah. Okay. So he had a perfect call. He's
basically saying, listen, we're going to give you military assistance, but Zelensky, I'm
going to need you to do a little something something for daddy Trump and then they paraded
Zelensky out to the Oval Office and he's like, what do you think about the call report?
He's like, yes, I did not get pleasure like in front of Trump sort of very like concessionary
towards Trump.
Boom, what happens?
Trump gets impeached for a second time for a call with Zelensky. So five years later when Trump
becomes a president, you don't think he remembers maybe? Aren't you that mother
sucker that got me impeached? Little homie! Waiting for it. And then he gets out of the
car and he's like, oh look at the little guy. I see you dressed up real nice for me, buddy.
Good point. Okay, so there's a personal relationship there. So it comes down to respect
so Yeah, we're on team Ukraine, right? We're on the team
America America from a policy perspective from a policy perspective. Yeah, right. It's not like we're having Putin in the Oval Office
Yeah, but from a personality perspective
Trump doesn't respect Zelensky. Oh was the whole video of him shaking his whole thing?
But he had gosh, we're also as you've seen this, we're not friends with Russia at this
point. Trump I think wants to have a warmer relationship. Get this point. He at least
respects Putin. Yes, he's a thug. Yes, he's a KGB agent. There's your boy. Yes, he's a
killer. Yes. If you say something wrong, you'll throw it out. You get thrown out of a window. But Trump in a weird way, at least respects Putin has no respect for his question.
You made a great point. Why wouldn't Putin like if they're communicating and Trump respects everybody, why wouldn't he come to the White House? Would would you mind it? I wouldn't my poo in coming to have a conversation. He's gonna send us
Understand that but what I'm saying is if that
Madonna chest-wearing freaking freak that's probably on cocaine could come there and disrespect the shadow of us
Vladimir points a whole different beast bro. That guy what do you mean? You're saying? Why isn't he why wouldn't he ever come?
Let me let me show this clip. That's a good question. Just say one thing just think about it for one second
The people you've Ukraine you don't think they've seen these videos thousand they looked at him. They go. Yeah, I'll vote for that guy
So what's going on with those people?
Really though like I know he was elected
But I mean, I I don't know I I tend to think was influenced by us
One thing there is right. Look at that move right there. Oh my god, Julie. What do you think about that move?
Yeah
He's got my vote. I actually thought Trump for the vast majority of that meeting
Respectful, yes, I think I thought he was I watched the whole thing and for the vast majority
I thought he held it together, you know, there was a arm tap
It was a patient and then and he called JD JD not mr. Vice president
like it was building and then Trump lost his shit, but I
You don't have the cards. Yeah, I mean, but I thought I thought he hung on longer than I expected.
I mean, I agree.
The thing is, Trump actually gave him respect.
You show up like that dress.
That's an insult.
By the way, you know what?
We just talked about 75 trillion with Russia.
Here's what Putin said two days ago.
Rob, if you can play that clip.
Putin was like, oh, really?
You guys want to do a mineral deal with Ukraine?
Let me tell you what minerals we got here. Go ahead, Rob. If they showed interest in working together, Russia has a significant more resources than Ukraine.
Russia is one of the leading contesting leaders when it comes to rare and rare-earth metal resources.
He knows the leverage he has. Of course.
Hey, just so you know guys, you're talking to,
come here, we got everything to offer you.
Anyways, let's go to the next story.
Next story.
Next story I wanna get to is working from home.
And we have to play this clip of Jamie Dimon
on how he reacts when this came up.
And the way I'm gonna go into this Rob,
I'm gonna tell the story of Google, what
just happened with Sergey Brin and what they're doing at Google, talking about the fact that
Sergey Brin tells Google employees that 60 hours a week is the sweet spot for productivity.
Some beg to differ, okay?
Google Go co-founder urged employees working on Gemini to target about 60 hours a week
as the sweet spot of productivity, writing in a memo, competition has accelerated immensely
and the final race to AGI is afoot, referring to AI and suggesting they be in the office
at least every weekday, though he noted some folks put in a lot more but can burn out or
lose creativity.
Workplace experts challenge Brin's view
with John Turgokis, a University of Toronto
management professor, of course a professor's
gonna have his opinion, who doesn't work
but he's telling others how to work.
Tells Business Insider, we see people taking longer
to do the same amount of work than they would
when they were fresher due to errors and motivation drops
and da da da da da.
And then Sioba Jabot favors burstable bandwidth
over fixed long hours.
You work a bit harder on these days,
but you have to be able to rest and recharge,
which is a good point, but 60 hours, right?
Then there's Jamie Dimon and a leaked recording
where he loses his shit is what a lot of people are saying.
Okay, and here's what he had to say.
Go for it, Rob. A lot of people are saying. I love it. Okay, and here's what he had to say. Go for it, Rob.
A lot of you were on the fucking Zoom
and you were doing the following, okay?
You know, looking at your mail,
sending texts to each other
about what an asshole the other person is, okay?
Not paying attention, not reading your stuff, you know?
And if you don't think that slows down efficiency,
creativity, creates rudeness, it does, okay? And when I found out that people were doing that, you don't do that slows down efficiency, creativity, creates rudeness and stuff. It does.
Okay.
And when I found out that people are doing that, you don't do that.
My goddamn meetings, you're going to meet with me.
You got my attention.
You got my focus.
I don't bring my goddamn phone.
I'm not sending texts to people.
Okay.
It simply doesn't work and it doesn't work for creativity.
It slows down decision making and don't give me the shit that work from home Friday works.
I call a lot of people on Friday. They're not a goddamn person to get a hold of.
But here are the problems, okay, and they are substantial, okay, which is the young
generation is being damaged by this. That may or may not be in your
particular step, but they are being left behind. They're being left behind
socially, ideas, meeting people. In fact, my guess is most of you live in communities a hell of a lot less diverse than this room.
Every area should be looking to be 10% more efficient.
If I was going to depart from 100 people, I guarantee you if I wanted to, I could run
it with 90 and be more efficient.
I guarantee you.
I could do it in my sleep.
And the notion, these bureaucracies, I need more people, I can't get it done.
No, because you're filling that request
that don't need to be done.
Your people are going to meetings
they don't need to go to.
Someone told me to approve something as wealth management
that they had to go to 14 committees.
I am dying to get the name of the 14 committees.
And I feel like firing 14 chairman of committees.
I can't stand it anymore. Now you have a a choice you don't have to work at JP Morgan
So the people of you who don't want to work at the company, that's fine with me. I'm not I'm not mad at you
Don't be mad at me. It's a free country. You can walk on your feet, you know
But this company's gonna set our own standards and do it our own way
And and I've had it with this kind of stuff. And I come in, I've been working seven days,
a goddamn week since COVID,
and I come in and I, where's everybody else?
But they're here and there and the Zooms
and the Zooms don't show up
and people say they didn't get stuff.
So that's not how you run a great company.
We didn't build this great company by doing that,
by doing the same semi-disease shit
that everybody else does.
Tom, your thoughts.
Well, first of all, I love what he's saying.
Let's break into some of the major parts.
He talks about individual development.
Tim Armstrong of Verizon's oath, which was Verizon media, man took it in the chops when
he came out and he said, I'm already seeing, and we were only six months into COVID,
I'm already seeing people working from home that are not getting the ability to develop,
that want to raise, so they want to be promoted to manager, and they haven't been around people,
and they haven't been developing. So number one is development, and he's absolutely right.
The overall umbrella though, these are the standards that make this company great and
I am leading this company and this is the way I'm going to do it.
And so he's not out there to say, I'm going to vote for the average.
He called it a disease.
He said, I'm not here to vote for average.
These are the standards that make JP Morgan great.
If you want to work for JP Morgan, work for me and here's what I think about it.
And you get development out of it.
But also I want to eliminate focus and distraction people do it to me
You don't do that at my meetings when I'm at my meetings. I set my phone aside. You have my focus
You have my attention and so he's absolutely
Correct as far as I'm concerned if other people want to do it differently they can do it differently and by the way
What was Sergey Brin talking about?
Competition.
He said competition AI is heating up.
It is not a given that our Gemini project
is going to be successful.
And by the way, I think 60 hours a week
is about what we need to do here because this
is a competitive thing and we could lose a lead here.
That's what Sergey Brin's talking about.
But what are they both talking about?
We're leading these companies and if you want to work here, this is the way it's gonna be and why do people not respect that?
Julian I think it's a generational thing. I you know as a Gen Xer
I remember when Katzenberg said if you don't come in on Saturday
Don't even bother coming in on Sunday and that was the culture
You know Elon Musk said here, you know you bitch about burning the midnight oil and in China, they're
burning the 3am oil and we're losing AI. I mean, look what deep seek just did. So for
me as a Gen X or that is music to my ears, but try to tell that to a kid who's Gen Z.
And you know, what's fascinating is that your entire team here
is filled with young, aggressive, hungry kids.
And I cannot figure out.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
I can't figure out what you've done to condition them
to work like they're Gen X because I you know, I meet with these kids
I will not take an executive assistant because every time I sit down with one of them. They're like, well, well, what's the
What's the vacation time and and what's the pay and what are my benefits not? Hey, I researched your company
I see that you do X Y & Z
I think I can contribute this to the table based on my background and that. Like, you don't have that anymore. When I was a kid, you showed up first and you left
last and that's how you got ahead. So I, you know, I love it, but is that realistic for
America and for our younger generation? I don't know.
Adam.
Well, have you ever heard Jamie Dimon talk like that? I've never seen Jamie Dimon in
public.
Well, it was leaked. I mean, so he-
Well, that's my point.
I love it.
You know what's going on behind closed doors.
He's a freaking badass.
I love him.
I mean, he dropped the G damn word probably seven times.
Other than that, wow.
I mean, you can understand what type of leader he is.
But I think it's so interesting that in some capacities, you have like, let's just use
two archetypes.
You have the Jamie Dimon of the world who's basically saying work your ass off
I'm in here seven days a week go go go Sergey Brando's a billionaire top ten user founder of Google, right?
Yeah, top ten richest billionaire in the world. And then you have the Bernie Sanders crew who's like
four-day work weeks 30 hour work weeks
Divergent pathways the siesta Spain lifestyle.
Everything's covered.
So, and then we're going to see.
College, we're going to pay for that.
We're going to pay for everything.
Take your pick.
Yeah.
Well, to me, it's almost as if, you know, and because a majority of this with the Zoomers
and stuff he's talking about is COVID.
COVID was such an impact that people started working from home.
And guess what?
Comfortable.
The drifters, they're hanging out.
They're home.
They're not doing, trust me, I know a shitload of them and they're still doing it.
So they get comfortable, just like what you're seeing
with Doge with all these federal employees,
they don't wanna go, they're like, wait a minute,
you're calling me out on my bullshit?
How dare you?
How dare you point out what the hell I'm doing wrong?
And then COVID was one of those main ones
that really got everybody just to chill out and be like,
I'm home, what?
I could still do it at home.
And the quiet quitting. Oh yeah, I love that. that's when they don't answer the phone like the quiet
quitting they just literally you know you know what I'm gonna make it and
continue to make it I don't know how it's fascinating last time we got in the
car after we had dinner what I say about John Carlo and absolutely amazing things
and John Carlo was like one of the biggest surprises ever.
Right?
When we got on the call, we're like, what a great dinner.
Amazing.
It's like, you know what it was?
It didn't take long to realize there's a connection.
It's not an act.
Nobody was acting.
But let me tell you, if we had five other people at the table,
they would have been so annoyed by us.
I think so, too.
There could have been people at the table that would have been
so annoyed by us because like attracts like. So when you're talking about the Gen Z's that are
here and the guys that are young that are working, I didn't make them that way. They
found us. Meaning they're like that and they found a home here. They came here and then
they realized what the culture is like, what I'm doing with their life. Shit, this isn't
just an act. Pat Braley talks and then they do it few things. I wrote down here with this
When I had my guys and I'm building an insurance company and I would hear guys
Use their faith and their family as an excuse to not work hard. It was so funny to me. Well, listen, you know
You care more about money and success than I do. What's important to me is my kids. I'm like, oh really? Oh wow, what a noble guy you are.
Oh, you are so amazing.
You care more about your kids than I do.
Yeah, that's fantastic.
So your kids, you think you want your kids
to do what you tell them to do,
or you think they're going to do what you're doing. There's more caught than taught in parenting. There's more caught than
taught in parenting. Your kids are gonna watch you stay home and be a daddy being
at home at the kids all the time. When they age, they're gonna do the same thing.
They're gonna be home. My kids come here, they see how they're working, they see
what the energy is like, they see competition, they want to be the same way
as well.
That's the different energy that you're giving them.
So many people use the family and say, well it's because of this, it's because of that,
I want to be around my family.
If you actually put a camera on their house, what they were doing, they're watching TV,
they're watching YouTube videos.
It's not quality time, that's not called quality time.
You're wasting it, right?
But the other part that's very interesting with this, I love what Jamie said I absolutely love Jamie had the luxury of being the
executive assistant of Sandy Wow at American Express let me say this one
more time Sandy while the former CEO of Citigroup when he was at American
Express as an executive Jamie was his assistant he was was his EA. Let me say this again. Jamie Diamond was
the EA to Sandy Wall. Sandy Wall is one of the biggest deal-makers of all time.
The guy was a badass mother. You know what? He was a beast. And then the issue
happened when he gave Jamie a promotion and Jamie started doing really well.
Jamie was able to shadow somebody that was a killer. He learned from somebody.
He watched someone, he's like, oh my God.
So this is what it takes to compete at the highest.
You are part of the luckiest community
if you ever work under somebody where you get a chance
to see what it really looks like
to compete at the highest level.
You're so lucky if you're able to witness
that Jamie did took advantage of it
now as the CEO of the biggest bank in the world.
And I'll tell you the last thing,
we can go to the next story.
You know what's one of the scariest things about life?
Here's one of the scariest things about life.
Last night we're having dinner, okay?
And dessert shows up.
And the dessert at this place is the best.
Mikhail takes care of us.
Mikhail brought this pistachio ice cream with a 25-year-aged balsamic glaze that he put
on top of the ice cream and the
strawberry ridiculous and you're eating it the level of euphoria is it just doesn't
be how happy you are right and everybody's trying different things and I'm ordering
the gnocchi the almetri piano style and all this other stuff that they bring and then
sugar comes you know what Julian said yeah I just don't do that what do you mean I just don't do that. What do you mean? I just don't do sugar
I made a decision a long time ago. I don't do sugar. She didn't even say I don't do dessert
She says I don't do sugar
What do you mean? You don't do sugar who talks like that right? That's a standard, but the main point is the following
in life
We all have a price to pay
Yeah, you either pay it now now or you're gonna pay it later.
So to the Gen Zers that are bitching about Jamie Dimon and a boss they're working at that's driving the hell out of them,
let me give you two prices.
You could not pay the price now.
And you could just kind of chill and hang out and relax now in your 20s and your 30s and your 40s.
You will pay a massive price in your 70s and your 80s and your 60s.
And that massive price, you know what that price is? Here's what the massive price is. Let me paint your 80s and your 60s and that massive price
You know what that price is. Here's what the massive price is
Let me paint a picture to you and see if you like this or not. You're 62 years old. You got three kids
You have six grandkids
Those kids of yours for Christmas
Have a choice between coming to you to spend Christmas and Thanksgiving with you or the in-laws of the family that they married
Because those guys made better decisions,
they're in a better place to be able to take care
of the kids in a better way,
and you didn't, you were smoking weed, kicking back,
relaxing, chilling out in your 20s, 30s, 40s.
You're gonna sit there in your 60s and 70s in bed
and say, how come our kids are not with us?
I wish they were with us, babe.
Or you'll be by yourself saying,
man, I wish they was with us.
That's a painful price. The price of working 60 to 80 hours a week in your 20s and 30s
Give me a flippin break. Are you kidding me? That's the price you're bitching about
Don't worry wait till that age is in their 60s then call me back
Manect me by that time and tell me how you feel about the price that you were not willing to pay
That price on the back end should scare the crap out of everybody
Should scare the crap out of everybody when it comes on to alcohol drugs health
Relationship finances all of that stuff career you can party all you want you can chill all you want
Like this Vinny in 15 years you and I are 61 years old
In 15 years, you and I are 61 years old. Oh my God.
Let me tell you.
That's the case, buddy.
In 15 years, that's coming.
So let's go to the next story.
Bill Maher, a friend of yours.
Bill Maher endorses Trump-like Democrats who run for president.
When I first read this story, I'm like, who's he talking about?
Watch who he's talking about.
Go for it, Rob.
The Democrats need to find their Trump.
Not the authoritarian part, but the part where a politician bonds with everyday Americans because he talks like them.
And the good news for Democrats is they have that guy.
And his name is John Federman.
Oh, yes. Oh, Jesus, oh God.
Were you expecting him to say that?
He doesn't know what to do.
Federman went to Mar-a-Lago where Trump assumed he was one of the guys from January 6th.
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Look, here's the thing. Voters aren't really savvy about the issues, but they do have it, may have made it clear
what is important to them.
Authenticity, balls, and charisma.
Trump has that package, and so does Federman.
He's only been a senator two years, and he's already more famous than most of his colleagues.
Quick, I dare you to name this sad looking lady from Washington State who's been in
the Senate for 30 years.
You can't teach charisma or balls.
Federman is that rare Democrat who's not afraid to put the woke nonsense peddlers in his own
party in their place saying things like wanting a secure border and realizing
that it was out of control.
That doesn't mean you're a xenophobe or a racist.
He's been unequivocally pro-Israelian thoughts.
Do you agree with him?
Do you agree with him?
Hold on, hold on.
He's making valid points.
He does, yeah.
With that said, there is something vastly different between Federman and Trump.
Trump is a businessman.
He's an exceptionally successful businessman and I'm not an economist. I
am NOT an expert in geopolitics but as I have sought to understand some of the
things he's doing with our economy and our relationships around the world, I've
come to appreciate... listen he does a lot of things I don the world, I've come to appreciate,
listen, he does a lot of things I don't like,
but I've come to appreciate that in many ways,
he's brilliant.
And it's from talking to people like you,
learning what's behind what he's doing,
that's not Fetterman.
So while Fetterman is down to earth
and he's not afraid to call bullshit on his own party,
and they're definitely going
to need that.
There's no question.
Federman is not Trump and I don't see him.
When you were talking to me last night explaining how Taiwan is bringing their chips to America
and what a big deal that is and why Trump is doing XYZ and then showing me how Tom was
breaking down the fact that it's a good deal
You think Fetterman's gonna be capable of that? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so
but maybe maybe what if he does this would it be open to you if he
Rob if he can pull that up if he does this would you think he would have a shot?
Yeah, like would that change things?
Would that be like you know what? I'm okay with it if this happens only if the beard goes orange
Yeah, Tom your thoughts on this story with Federman
Federman I I have a modicum of respect for John Federman because John Federman appears to be
very speaking very plainly, but when the second coming of Peter Boyle and
And the monster from young Frankenstein is the best that you can do sitting on the Ritz.
If you everybody knows what I'm talking about.
It says it's it's kind of shocking to me that, you know, Bill Maher goes down the entire
roll call and there's only one guy that he can come out to.
And he's talking not about positions and business and negotiation.
He's talking about balls, the ability to speak plainly
and connect to a populace.
So it shows even with Bill Maher, who's not a dumb guy,
and I've seen a real metamorphosis in his positions
that I have a lot of respect for.
But you know, Federman, I think it's good
that there's somebody in the Democrat Party
that's that's that's taking a moderate position and stepping out like this.
I think it's a good thing.
I don't know if he's either new Messiah.
No, I don't think so.
I think this is just further proof that the Democratic Party has completely lost their
way when this guy is the new face of the Democratic Party.
Potentially, it's like, what do you guys even stand for at this
point? I think it's pretty interesting that because he wears a hoodie, he's down to earth
and he's the common man. He went to Harvard. He's an elitist. I mean, like you don't go
to Harvard as just some random schmo. So do you remember when Boris Johnson, who was the
UK prime minister, who was like a very smart, eccentric, smart,
like elitist guy, what he would do, I don't know if you want to pull up a picture of him,
Rob, he would be in a meeting, let's say we're in a meeting with Pat and like, all right,
Pat, cool, great. Everything's good. All right. I'm going to go speak to the public. He'd
ruffle up his hair and get out there and do a little Chris Farley thing. You know, Billy's
here. Bobby's here. Get out there and look like the common
man. But he wasn't. John Fetterman is not the common man. He's a six, eight alien looking
moderate looking dude who wears a hoodie. It's almost like Sam Baichman Fried, where he'd
wear shorts on stage. You're a fricking Senator, bro. You're going to show up to the inauguration
in a hoodie. Have a little modicum of respect.
Secondly, look at his policies. He's Medicare for all. He's a pro union. This is how you
show up in winter. The inauguration. Come on, bro. It's a joke. He's a joke. So this
is what the democratic party is. So either a gay black Asian half midget lesbian or you're this guy I don't get it
what are you?
Vinny, stop.
So, first of all, anything that Bill Maher says at this point about politics you obviously you
could tell the Trump derangement syndrome it's still any he can't give no it's just that that
one lane thinking and mind you no, I don't totally disagree
I don't know where you're going with this
I think Bill Maher is actually doing great these days and what's I think he's a very very common sense
But that's what I think he's being very straightforward
I think he's calling out the woke left and he's obviously no fan of certain people on the right
Yeah, he's called he's been very complimentary of people on the right top But still has my point, Trump derangement syndrome.
That's the same guy when you talk about judge of character, he says he loves Gavin Newsom.
I love the guy.
Well that's because he lives in California.
He's backing off that a little bit.
I gotta give him that many.
He's backing off that a little bit.
Yeah, after his house burned down maybe he is a little bit.
Putting on the ranch.
May I finish?
May I finish?
I don't trust that guy guy especially when it comes to judging
that character because you know what? He would vote for Gavin Newsom for president. And this
is the same guy, by the way let's not forget the left and their choices of who they love.
Michael Avenatti, the creepy porn lawyer, they were advocating for him to be the president.
Adam, so the same guy.
No they just were advocating because he was...
But let's just talk, oh, and what did you just say about Bill Maher and his...
Bill Maher and his what? His and his and is what his woke?
Progressive, you know men in sports and all that shit yesterday
The Senate voted on the prediction of women and girls in sports act the bill to protect female athletes from barring
Biological men from competing the vote was 51 45 every single Democrat including your boy
Federman voted against it. They want men to compete with girls
so that woke idea out of that.
Are you kidding me?
I'm dead serious.
Yesterday, every single Democratic Senator voted against.
Not one, guys, all of them.
Chuck Schumer, Sanders, Warren, Booker, all these losers.
So their goal is you guys want him for president,
he wants boys to play with girls.
So that, you know, it's BS.
And it's not, and by the way, and I'm not,
I hope everything health-wise is good, he had a stroke.
He had to have people in his thing type
the conscription form.
He has cardiovascular problems.
He was admitted to Walter Reed for clinical depression.
I mean, we don't, I want a healthy, non-short-term body.
Think about it this way though.
And on the Democrat side, we call him Senator.
This is how I process this.
This is how I process this.
Remember when he was campaigning?
He just looked bad.
But in the last six months when he does his interviews
and he gives answers, he actually looks better now,
when you watch him, right?
But think about it this way.
If I told you a year ago that in March 4th, whatever today is, March 4th,
you know, Bill Maher is going to say the face of the Democratic Party is going to be Federman,
would you have believed me?
I'd laugh in your face.
You know what that is though, because there's no one left.
True.
So think about it. He didn't say AOC. He didn't say Newsom. He didn't say Tim Walz, who just
announced that he's open to the idea of running for president in 2028. He didn't say Newsome. He didn't say Tim Walz, who just announced that he's open to the idea of running for president in 2028.
He didn't say anybody, he didn't even say Stephen A. Smith.
He says, Federman, where are they at today
for them to say something like this?
And by the way, what you just showed right now,
if they can't sit there and realize what policies
resonates with no one in America, literally,
no one in America with these transgender issues
allowing men to compete in a world.
Jillian, what do you think about that when you see this?
Cause your reaction to when you saw it.
They just keep digging.
These are 80, 20 issues, 80% of the country
is against biological males in girls sports.
And there's no point where they're like,
did anybody get this memo?
Like we're getting our asses kicked on these issues.
This is not a popular position.
And they continue to quadruple down.
I was actually talking to Cenk Uygur the other day
and he said something that made perfect sense.
He's like, somewhere the corporate left and the woke far left had a marriage that none of
us knew about. And they're locked into this path of self-destruction. And the reason I
actually understood what Bill was saying about Fedman is because I do think it's going to be the Democrat that goes this is bananas these guys are crazy and they
need a hostile takeover of their party by a guy that's not afraid to call them
out on their bullshit but after Adam and Vinny just went to it's certainly not
Fetterman yeah certainly that's not the candidate okay next door tariffs Mexico
Canada tariffs will be implemented due to unacceptable drug flow
Trump says Rob if you can pull up this clip of
President Trump and then show what happens to the stock market the Dow yesterday. Here's President Trump. Go for it
Tomorrow tariffs 25% on Canada and 25% on Mexico and that'll start
So they're gonna have to have a tariff.
So what they have to do is build their car plants, frankly, and other things in the United
States, in which case they have no tariffs.
In other words, you build — and this is exactly what Mr. Wei is doing — by building
here.
Otherwise, they will build — if they did them in Taiwan to send them here, they will
have 25 percent or 30 percent or 50% or whatever the number may be someday,
it'll go only up. But by doing it here, he has no tariffs, so he's way ahead of the game. And
I would just say this- You know who that is? The guy to the right. You know who that is,
the guy to the right? That's the chip company, right? TMSC. That's the one that did $100 billion
in US. Okay. So tariffs on US, while he's's saying this Rob. Can you pull up the Bloomberg story?
What happened with car prices what their predictions gonna be happening car prices are poised for?
$12,000 surge on Trump's new tariffs. Okay again, this is Bloomberg Bloomberg is not a fan of Trump
Okay, here we go.
President Trump's 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico set on March 4th could spike U.S. cars
up to $12,000 per study of Anderson Economic Group led by CEO Patrick Anderson.
Is this it, Rob?
Yes.
Play the clip.
Go for it.
So basically they took Anderson Economic Group took a look at certain vehicles that are North
American assembled.
I mean they're built in Canada and Mexico and the U.S., but they also use a number of parts
from various regions.
And a number of these had us $12,000 for a particular battery-electric crossover.
That's how much the price would go up if these tariffs are implanted, I guess, tomorrow.
It also found that a pickup, a gas-powered pickup would go up by $8,000, and then it
found a small car around $3,600.
So these are various different actual cars
that they anonymized and they actually did the analysis.
The crazy part is it doesn't even
include the cost of steel and aluminum tariffs.
That's not even part of this analysis.
This is just based on what Trump is saying
and how automakers could try to work around
what they'd have to pay their money for
in terms of components.
So it's not exactly a good thing for them.
I mean, not good for consumers either, because those are going to mostly pass down those
costs to the consumers, MSRP.
So pretty inflationary there.
For the automakers part, they're lobbying to say, hey, if you're going to do this to
us, why not do this to the South Korean automakers and the Japanese automakers who are not being
tariffed as heavily?
And they don't make any of their cars in the US, right so that's sort of the the give-and-take there the balancer
It's when I it's sort of part of the negotiation between the automakers the Commerce Department and Trump at this point
$12,000 threatening models like Chevrolet Silverado for Bronco Sport
Average car prices nearing 50% up 20% from five years ago. Fordodability is already strained, Anderson noted.
So you're talking a real number.
Tom, your thoughts on this story here.
Right, so if the tariffs stay,
which are just now implemented,
and if they stay, they will affect the price of the car.
After all the cars that are built right now
that are currently in inventory are sold,
because those were built with yesterday's materials
at yesterday's prices, after the cars are built today
that the raw materials are already landed
and are being assembled into cars as we speak,
and all those are sold, then yes, you will get to a point
where the automakers are buying things at higher prices
most of the time
Manufacturers do what's called hedging, you know the airline industry they hedge and store fuel
Massive quantities of it to allow these things to go through so what you're seeing is
One guy from Anderson Consulting, which is only one, he's only one auto analyst, and he's not even the largest.
But they're running him up the flag
because he's saying exactly what the mainstream media
wants to hear, that it's all there.
So could it all come true if this is still going on
in four months?
Sure.
Do I think it's gonna still be going on in four months?
No, because
The clout that we have behind our tariffs is much higher than the clout that the other side has
I'll give you a great example with the tariffs coming to Europe Europe the EU Economic Union
managed to come together and
Through a retaliatory strike and you can go look this up
Against the United States and
they are putting tariffs on Harley Davidson motorcycles and Levi's jeans. That was an
individual action that they took two, two weeks ago. So we'll teach those Americans.
We'll put tariffs on Harley's here in, in, in, in Europe, which aren't, don't sell particularly
well over there and on Levi's jeans, is an American gene and so you can see the
tariffs the
Market reacts because market only thinks about future things
CEO says the wrong thing on earnings report boom stock moves because that's that's a future the stock market is future speculation
But in terms of the real impact on consumers,
what was the third word in that sentence you just looked at?
And the word was could, could.
Tariff set for March 4th could spike.
It's all speculative.
Right now, these are negotiations, these aren't taxes,
these are negotiations. If they't taxes, these are negotiations.
If they're still around months from now, yeah, you could have a real live price impact.
From what I understand of this, historically speaking, this could go the wrong way, but
I don't actually think that's what he's doing.
I read the art of the deal 15 years ago, but one of the things that I remember,
and we've taken away when we negotiate our own contracts is you ask for the sun, the
moon, the stars. And then if you land on the moon, you're doing great. I wonder if this
is not exactly that. I mean, that said, and not to relitigate what we discussed last night, but
when you explained to me that this strategy in particular is what's bringing people into
the country to manufacture chips here, like what we just saw with Taiwan, maybe he's legitimately
serious. I'm kind of sitting back and waiting to see how everything Trump's doing will play
out.
I think that's the right thing to do. I think that's the right thing to do to see what happens.
Adam, your thoughts on this here.
I think there's one word that is like overplaying in Trump's head, overplaying.
And that's the whole concept of fairness.
I've been treated very unfairly.
We've been treated very unfairly.
They've been taking advantage of us for years.
So all these words like retaliatory, it was a reciprocal pricing, reciprocal tariffs,
retaliatory. So you remember like, it's a weird analogy. But do you remember when Israel and Iran
were trading blows about a year ago? Iran attacked Israel, Israel attacked Iran,
and they kind of started small. And then they went again. And then they did them drones and then
then the missiles. So the point is, like, like once you start something the other the other country is gonna make a move and then you're like, alright
What do we do now and you can stop or?
Iran maybe needs to respond again and then Israel basically destroyed their and told their entire air defense missile crisis and then
Missile systems and then Iran sort of been a sleeping giant
for the right now.
The point is this, all these countries are going to respond.
Canada is going to respond.
I think China has already responded with their own 10% increases on tariffs.
Mexico is going to respond.
They're not just going to sit there and take it.
So Jillian brought up a good point.
She's like, I don't know how this is going to work out.
You know, you have someone like Warren Buffett coming out there and basically saying Trump's tariffs
on goods are not good. It's he says that the tooth fairy doesn't pay them. Who pays them?
Rob, yeah, do you have that? The consumers get into pain. I'm like Pat pointed out there's
a $12,000 cars are gonna increase. The consumer is gonna eventually have to pay him. So you
might make the case that we have been treated unfairly
and we do need to do something, but that might not work out well
in the end.
We're about to find out like Pat said, you start with a negotiation
tactic.
You throw out.
It's like the art of the deal, right throughout something big
and bold.
See what they do.
All right, you're going to make a move and now we negotiate you
have that clip with Warren Buffett. Yeah, give me okay
So basically he says tariffs are actually we've had a lot of experience with them
They're an act of war to some degree. So the reason I said the act is yes. That's the Israeli wrong analogy. Go ahead
Experience with them. They're an act of war
To some degree. How do you think tariffs will impact inflation?
Over time there are
attacks on goods. I mean, the truth fairy doesn't pay up. You always ask that.
You love that joke. So is there an answer for that when people say
you know inflation persists, consumer prices keep going up, when's the end in
sight? No, prices will be higher 10 years from now and 20 years from
now and 30 years from now.
And what do you think about what's happening in Washington
right now?
Technology changes things, all kinds of things, but Washington
is Washington. And the problem with politics is that it tend to
have to make tiny compromises as you go along.
These are the pains though, right, that we're going to have
to go through because what's everybody else?
So he's doing this, why?
Because they're all screwing us over because it's not reciprocal.
Am I right?
That their tariffs are how much?
Not all of them.
Some of the countries that he's doing are reciprocal tariffs.
But just so you know, after the announcement that was made this morning, Rob, if you want
to pull up the story that Apple just released, Canada, I think think just put a tariff on 155 different, 15 companies, some industries, there's a,
let me just tell you what, just literally this just happened this morning, right now,
as this is coming out.
Canada put 25% tariffs on 105 US goods.
Okay. 25% tariffs on 105 US goods. Okay, and you have China added 10 US companies to its unreliable entity list and 15 companies
to its export control list, primarily targeting defense and intelligence firms, and China
is now filing a lawsuit within the World Trade Organization against the US over the new 10%
tariff.
So they're going to go back and forth, right?
Now they're going to be doing that, right? Now they're gonna be doing that.
And then you're gonna see who's gonna be able to,
you know, last the longest time until something flips.
Trust me, what Trump's not gonna want
is he is pushing in my, the way I'm processing this.
He's pushing the pressure now
because he doesn't want the pressure to be pushed
six months, nine
months before midterms.
He does not want that.
When midterms comes and he loses the control, let's just say because the market's not good,
he doesn't want that.
So whatever strong positions he wants to take, he better take it right now.
He will not be able to do it next year.
That's all it is.
Next year, you're going to see very much of a measured right before midterms and then
again strong push coming right after midterms and then it's the end of it.
I fully agree with PBD and even the numbers show that, you know, our friend Tom says words
talk numbers scream.
Here's an article CNBC.
This was from a couple days ago.
The first quarter is on track for negative GDP growth says the Atlanta Fed GDP tracker
forecast 1.5% GDP shrink for Q1 2025 down from a 2.3% growth estimate driven by weak
consumer spending. So basically Trump saying, listen, it might suck for a little bit. Prices may go up. Inflation may not be
what they call that transitory. So it might stick around for a little bit, but it's worth
it because we're going to shut down the border. We're going to, we're going to be treated
more fairly. We're going to tear up some of these countries that need to be basically
treated a certain type of way. But like Pat Pat said when it comes towards midterms hopefully prices are less volatile.
And by the way we gotta take a look at this just scroll a little bit Rob just scroll it
up a little bit.
I'm so sorry can I grab my inhaler.
You guys I'm so so sorry.
They'll grab it for you.
Jillian they'll grab it for you.
Is it in your purse?
It's in my backpack.
Okay go grab it. Go grab it. You guys purse? It's in my backpack. Go grab it.
You guys, I'm so sorry. Don't apologize, you're fine. It's okay. Vinny P's twice a show, it's fine.
Basically, basically what's going on right now, nothing to do with Trump, what this report is
right here, right now with consumer spending. The consumers ran their credit cards back up
to $1.3 trillion.
BNPL delinquencies were shooting up
even before the Christmas presents had been unwrapped.
The consumer is very tapped out.
And when you read now the fine print
and you get behind the headlines and wanna say,
oh, because of Trump tariffs this,
no bullshit, it's got nothing to do with Trump tariffs.
The Commerce Department's reporting personal spending
fell 0.2% in January.
By the way, he wasn't inaugurated
until January 20th, ladies and gentlemen,
and missing estimates.
Adjusted for inflation, then he's about half.
Why?
The consumer was tapped out at the end of last year.
And so right now what we have is a president
that is trying to get some sanity and equivalency
on tariffs, number one.
And number two, he's trying to set the economy up
so it can grow, but the consumer is tapped out.
And so I think people need to look at this.
It's very convenient for the mainstream media to say,
oh, bad Trump this, bad Trump that.
And by the way, not everything that's going on
in the economy right now is good.
We gotta get it sort out.
We gotta get cool heads to come together
and get these equivalent tariff things
have to come together.
But he didn't get inaugurated till January 20th
and the consumer has been tapped out
since the end of last year.
That's a good point.
You are right.
I will give you credit where credit's due
because people spend way too much on the holidays.
People spend way too much during Christmas.
People spend way too much.
Trump's only been president for, what is it now, six weeks?
48 days, 49 days, something like that.
But at the same time, they're showing signs
of decreasing consumer confidence.
So the whole speculation is that GDP
is on track for negative
Q1. So he's still going to be the president, you know, over the next few months. So what
they're saying is they are tapped out. Everything you said is correct, but they're not seeing
it that that it's getting better. And they're not seeing the numbers go up. What's the stock
market returns for the first quarter so far? It's barely it's barely even right? Like it's
not up big. As of yesterday, S&P gave back the gains for the year. It's barely it's barely even right like it's not up big. As of yesterday S&P gave back the gains for the year. Exactly so it's at
even. So the point is we're gonna see how this works out but all the gains all
the what's what's Bitcoin at right now is it at 90? I mean okay remember when it
hit 104 whatever it was a couple weeks ago
It's at 82 so all the gains that happened over the last month or so have all been given back
And now it's even down. Yeah, these are specular forward. You're talking about gains with Bitcoin
Let me tell you what he just announced on truth that the crypto community is going to lose their mind and they already are.
Rob, I just send it to you, those two screenshots and your phone if you can pull them up.
Yesterday, I want to say it's yesterday, on Truth Social, the president said the following,
which could be massive.
He said this two days ago, a US crypto reserve will elevate this critical industry after years of corrupt attacks by
the Biden administration, which is why my executive order on digital assets directed
the presidential working group to move forward on a crypto strategic reserve that includes
XRP, okay, SOL, Zat Solano, and ADA.
I will make sure the US is the crypto capital
of the world, we are making America great again.
And Rob, go to the next one.
And look what else he said he's gonna add
because people were wondering.
And obviously, Bitcoin and Ethereum
as other valuable cryptocurrencies
will be at the heart of the reserve.
I love Bitcoin and Ethereum, okay.
So, you know, he does this, the crypto community,
if all of a sudden he puts a hundred billion dollars into crypto and buys XRB, they diversified
in a way they're going to be doing that, that's going to be a very interesting move. I mean,
the Bitcoin conference is going to be insane because finally the US has a crypto reserve. So
you're right on what you're saying so far, but remember, when you're trying to change
the way people think and you're trying to change the way relationships are internationally,
you have to do it right off the bat because two years is going to come in no time, midterms.
And that's exactly what he's doing.
We won't know if these things are working properly or not till probably end of summer
in my opinion.
I'm saying September, October.
I think it's going to go that long in my opinion for us to really see if it's going to be good
or not.
AOC asks NPR host to clarify the problem when he asks about migrant crisis voters.
Go ahead, Rob.
What extent is immigration as an issue part of your problem with working-class voters?
I mean, I guess my question would be what does the word problem mean?
People voting for the other side and not for you.
Feeling that Democrats are not serious about the issue in ways that concern them. I think that we have a problem on immigration because of the lack of progress that we've
had on this issue.
And as we know, Republicans weaponize that lack of progress.
Of course, there was famously a bipartisan bill last year that Republican majority in
the Senate and also in the House were willing to pass, President
Biden was willing to work with them on it.
And Donald Trump said, do not solve this problem.
As long as it is broken, then it will be politically beneficial for us.
Is she going to be making a point?
And so it is a problem not just for Democrats.
All right, so while they're having this exchange
about immigration, right?
At the same time, California is waiting
for Harris' decision in the governor race,
while Tim Walz is saying he may consider running for,
what do you call it, president in 2028.
So California is sitting there saying,
is this Harris thing gonna happen?
Is it not gonna happen?
You know, is the race something that, you know Harris thing going to happen? Is it not going to happen?
Is the race something that, because Newsom is going to step aside with him, start a podcast
and maybe this is a chance for Harris to get in?
Is she going to be vocal about him when she was there the other day?
The reason why it went from AOC to Harris to Waltz to what we just talked about with
Federman is, who is actually going to be the face of 2020 for the Democratic Party? Jillian, you've spent time with a lot of folks from the left and even you're recently kind
of been in a different place.
Who do you think, and maybe if you were an advisor hired saying, Jillian, who would you
get behind on the left?
Who would that person be?
Gosh, the one who is the least woke
and seems to put their head down and do the best job and focus on the issues at
hand I originally said Josh Shapiro but I didn't realize that there may or may
not be some scandal in his background he's's not my governor. But when I look at the landscape,
I don't know who they've got. They've all just completely lost it. Remember when Klobuchar
used to make sense 100,000 years ago? It's just they've all completely moved so far left that I
just don't think they have a candidate, which is why guys like
Bill are grasping at straws like Federman. Remember, I remember when she
said, listen I'd love to staple a diploma under everybody's chair here in the room
and give you free health care and free college and free this and free that, but
it doesn't work that way. And her search went up exponentially overnight because
people knew she wasn't bullshitting them, she was telling the truth. Now she's just that way and her search went up exponentially overnight because people
knew she wasn't bullshitting them she was telling the truth now she's just
unrecognizable to me politically and I I guess I would say Shapiro. Tom you think
it's gonna be usual suspect? I just I just typed in right now just to see I
don't know what Google searches what they're doing the other day at CPAC the
leader was JD Vance and number two was Steve Bannon for CPAC for Republicans, right? Steve Bannon was too
Behind JD Vance. Okay, so JD Vance he became a star but on the left you see Newsom you see Whitmer
You see Shapiro you see Westmore you see boot a chick
Who else is it gonna be a usual suspect or is it gonna be somebody else?
So what happens, and this is not my opinion,
I mean let's go back and look at history.
Whenever you have situations like this come up,
the party looks around and we all cogitate,
look at this person, look at that person,
look at this person, look at that person.
You know, Antonio Villarosa, holy shit, he's still alive?
You know, from LA, right shit. He's still alive, you know in from LA right and all those things coming up
What will come back to the top is name recognition?
Because they realize that the voter the majority of the voter 80% of those that vote are
Living in short attention span theater. They will go to name recognition
And that's why I believe right now and I'm not trying to prognosticate
I believe this is going to be rick caruso versus
Kamala harris because both parties are going to go to name recognition. However on the
republican side rick caruso
Critic of the wildfires
strong guy on sensible policies to rebuild Los Angeles
and California.
But I think at the end of the day, the reason they're all waiting for Kamala is because
she's the choice of the, of the, of the Democrat establishment.
That's why they're waiting for her.
They're not saying, Hey, if you don't make a decision in 10 minutes, we're going this
way. And Antonio Villarosa and Eleni Konakalas,
is they're each going to get 15% of the preliminary money.
No, that's not what they're saying.
They're saying, we're waiting on her,
because if all she has to say is, I'm doing it,
and we're going with her, because that's the name
recognition they want.
And if you go back and look at how primaries and a lot
of things happen, that's usually how it shakes out
You're saying for the governor of California or for the president? He's talking about he's talking about the gubernatorial
That's what you're talking about. I'm talking about the decision in the governor's race
Can't even imagine one of them is the president so he just dropped it down to governor I thought we fed you oysters last night.
Good vitamin food.
I was answering the question about the California governor's place.
Watch this here Rob, this is what you pulled up.
Rob has this here Harris at the top is what side is this Rob?
This is from FiveThirtyEight. Okay, so FiveThirtyEight has Harris at the top,
then Buttigieg, then Waltz, then Newsome.
Newsome is fourth as of right now.
Ocasio-Cortez is fifth.
Whitmer, Shapiro, Cuban, then it's Federman, Pritzker,
Warnock, Booker, Croc, Croc, seriously, Crockett?
Like from Miami Vice? From Miami Vice? Warnock, Booker, Crockett, Crockett, seriously Crockett?
Look from Miami Vice. From Miami Vice?
Yeah.
Wow.
I'll get an 80s reference, not a 40s reference.
But do you know who Crockett is?
Is that the Crockett, is that Jamie Crockett?
Jasmine Crockett.
No way, not her, oh my God, she's just her.
Wow, they have her on that list, okay.
Great, let's see what the next name is.
Polis and then Bashir and Gallego
Gallego more and Smith why even put them on that they're at zero percent. There's a point three point
Four percent type of a thing Vinny. What do you think? Well, first of all, can we go back to the Ocasio AOC?
Which I am Adam you made a great observation. I think she's pregnant. I'm just gonna throw that out there
That's a first thing. I thought I thought she was because the last video she made it anyway
That's besides the point she is a liar her saying well that you know that she thinks that women can have babies
Thank God for that. I don't know if she is a absolute lying through her teeth and shame on him for not saying anything
She's talking about that border bill that Trump didn't want and that they said no and they don't care about migration
No, no that border bill had 60 billion dollars going to Ukraine, 14 million going to Israel
and 4.5 billion going to Taiwan.
So she's full of poop.
Okay, but I think-
Vanny, the language, please.
I'm sorry, Tom, I apologize.
Jillian Michaels is here.
Have a little respect.
I apologize.
I said this before, guys.
Don't make me laugh.
That would be the worst thing.
Don't do that.
Yeah, let her breathe. They have zero. And I've got to make her leave the room again. Don't make me laugh. That would be the worst thing. Don't do that.
Yeah, let her breathe.
They have zero.
The Democratic, the left, the party is absolutely cooked.
Look who they have to pick for even that.
Kamala Harris.
It's, it's, you guys, the Democrats that are even listening to this, you have Stockholm
syndrome.
You have fallen in love with your freaking abuser.
And like you said, Jillian, they can't, they can't make the switch.
No. Even if like, listen, listen, they're gonna need a savior.
They're gonna need somebody like a Stephen A. Smith.
They'll crucify that person.
They will burn his ass to the ground.
No, what do you mean, Steve?
Listen, be honest.
If Stephen A. Smith.
They're never gonna embrace a guy like that.
He's gonna call them out on their bullshit.
That's what they need.
That's what they need.
That's what Trump did initially.
That's what they need, but that's not.
They need a hostile takeover. That's what they need. But here's the actual
point. The only way they're going to have hope Adam is that type of shit. Somebody to
come in like a Trump and flip the whole table upside down. The current status of Democratic
Party and it does not give me great pleasure to say this is they got no hope and Bob Hope and Bob Hope has been dead for having like they got nothing. It's completely up
for grabs at this point. The fact that Tim Walls is like, yeah, I'm thinking about him.
Tim Walls, listen, tampon Tim, set this one out. Kamala Harris was the worst candidate
they've ever ever run in our lifetime. And she's in first place. This broads in first
place. So if you're a Republican congratulations, cuz you
Still the guy can ask you
No way not after the fires there's just no chance he's gonna play a Billy Joel song he's gonna say we didn't start the fire
He's gonna do a little rally. It's not even going to be cleaned up
by the time
even going to be cleaned up by the time he's going to realize that there's nobody in charge of this mess.
Literally, there's no one cleaning up the wreckage and the carnage out there.
And this is going to haunt him.
I disagree.
You give Democrats that you give the left that much credit that even the slick Willy talking with this podcast in the first
Line of us his promo was let's change the conversation. That's you you think
So well, I don't think they're listen a lot of them have moved to a place
Where they're never Trumpers
But I would vote for a Republican, just never Trump.
That's what you end up hearing.
They don't do any homework on the fact
that the things they're outraged about,
their own party did 10 times more of, for example,
immigration, illegal immigration.
It's like, well, you know,
Clinton deported 12 million people, you know, Obama deported
three million people on Trump deported one.
Like, where was your outrage?
Those are Obama's cages.
Did you do any homework?
I mean, Biden ruled back all of Trump's border policies and with the swipe of a freaking
pen, they could have stopped this, but they didn't.
But so beyond the fact that, you know, listen,
they've planted their flag, they're blue,
but they really do hate this guy.
He is hated throughout the state.
I'm seeing it more and more with people
that are far, far left.
And you're starting to hear things like,
I would vote for Republican, just never Trump.
Okay, so let me ask you this, Jillian Michaels,
hypothetical, those people you're talking about, the blue, no matter no matter who they're never Trumpers and they hate Gavin Newsom
They do he is hate it. You're looking at a ballot and they see Gavin Newsom
versus Donald Trump
Who are they gonna vote Gavin so that's my point what Trump is not going back in but I'm gonna be JD Vance or somebody
But if you give them someone that is more moderate, that they can kind of get ahead
of, no, I don't think so.
I think the part to look at that was the most impressive of what happened to America, out
of all the data points that everybody was showing, well, let me tell you, Pennsylvania this, well, let me tell you about this,
and let me tell you about this,
you know what was the most shocking data?
The fact that every state in America became more Republican.
But out of all the states that became more Republican,
two states became more Republican than any other states.
You know what those two states were?
California and New York.
That was the weirdest thing.
You're like, what?
Remember that whole thing with the pink thing. You're like, what? Remember that whole thing with the pink thing?
You're like, are you serious?
So I don't know.
I don't know what-
Because they've been hit the hardest by it, Pat.
That's why.
Yeah, I mean, you know what I would do?
If Newsom is coming out to the day to announce
that he's running for president, that day,
if Trump's camp really wanted to pull off a great troll get a hold of the DJ
Influence the DJ to play a walk-up song and the song is by Starship. We built this city, right?
To say we have this city? Like if there's one thing to burn, we burnt this city, right?
We burnt this city on liberal policies, right?
We burned this city.
We burned this city on liberal policies.
That's what they gotta say, right?
We didn't start the fire.
It was always burning since.
That's a good one.
Gavin Nelson's been turning.
So the point is, I mean, dude, the part that with Americans
today with social media, the world has become like Dory
from Finding Nemo.
Oh my gosh, that's so accurate.
Hi, what's your name?
Hi, Patrick.
Hi, Vinny, hi, hi, hi, oh, COVID never happened, hey, hi.
Right, so this thing that the people are so quick
to forget what, we forgot about the essential,
non-essential.
We gotta take care of Jillian Michaels.
You love them a lot.
You know how many.
Don't, I just can't laugh.
Right, you know how many people were getting
the non-essential, remember Gerard,
I think Gerard got the tattoo,
didn't Gerard get a tattoo, non-essential?
Oh yeah, I think he did. People were like, dude, screw you.
Like the part, the biggest part is anybody
that's in the documentary business,
anybody that's in like the people that do a great job,
there's so many of these guys, phenomenal job.
All of those documentary people have to make sure
take five companies, have five different documentaries to produce
and launch them all in 26 and then one in 28.
Just to remind everybody what will happen because they're going to forget.
And that's the biggest thing.
If you create a documentary about California fires and what led to it, I guarantee you
and you launch it in 2027, that documentary is directed to Newsome because
he's going to run.
Okay.
Then you run a documentary.
If you intentionally time these things to make people smarter, everyone's forgetting
about what happened.
Like Michael Jordan, you know what?
What's that?
I have a note section in my phone of purely one thing and I collect Michael Jordan debate
things.
Okay, and look at this.
If I find it, it's like young boys collect pictures of,
you know, whatever pictures it is.
Yeah, for me, it's stats of Michael Jordan, Kobe debate.
You know which one I just found?
Check this one out, crazy.
Rob, I'm gonna send this to you just to play it,
just so you see, because people forget about who Michael Jordan
I'm on the tree. He was right. They forget I saw the stat yet that I'm like, holy shit
What this guy did the question is how many 50 50 win teams?
Did people eliminate in the playoffs? Okay
50 win teams. All right, they have Michael on the list. They have Kobe on the list. Okay? 50 win teams. Alright?
They have Michael on the list, they have Kobe on the list, they have Magic on the list,
they have Tim Duncan on the list, they have Larry Bird on the list, they have LeBron James
on the list.
And everybody wants to say LeBron James the greatest, right?
Rob, can you do me a favor and pull up this picture that I just found this, right?
Look at this.
Okay?
Kobe eliminated 25 50-win teams.
Michael 20, Duncan 18, Magic 13, Bird 10. Okay, Kobe eliminated 25 50-win teams.
Michael 20, Duncan 18, Magic 13, Burr 10.
LeBron has 12.
And LeBron has played twice as many seasons nearly as Michael Jordan.
He's at 12.
Kobe 25.
Why is this important?
People forget Michael.
They forget who Michael was.
They forget.
They forget what this guy did, right?
So everybody is just today, they think about Lebron, Lebron, Lebron.
We have to make sure documentary folks
produce the best documentaries,
reminding us what happened to California,
reminding us what happened to COVID,
because by 2027, 2028,
a lot of people are gonna forget.
Okay, let me go to the next story.
This next story is very important.
And Jillian, I kinda need your help with this one. We got because we got we know we got a lot of guys here and we kind of
perspective so
Why men can't help falling in love faster? They screw this thing up. I don't see that. Let me read it
Let me read and just maybe look let's tear this guy apart if the argument's terrible
Australian National University researcher, that's the
qualifier, Australian National University, found men fall in love faster and more often
than women, averaging 2.6 times versus 2.3 times and saying I love you a month earlier
per a study of 800 people ages 18 to 25, the team notes, falling in love one month earlier
provides men with a greater opportunity to use romantic love to promote courtship with
men nearly twice as likely to fall before a relationship starts.
Driven by a fitness landscape favoring quantity of potential mates, women take longer, they
take 1.92 months to develop intense feelings, but once smitten,
they dwell on partners, 54% of waking hours versus men, 44% of waking hours, showing deeper
commitment.
Researchers explain females begin choosing than males, seek quality over quantity, contrasting
men quicker's plunge into love as an honest signal of commitment part of biology of sex differences journal do you agree with this?
No. Okay here's why. There's a joke about lesbians. So you've got female energy
squared right? What do they bring on a first date? A U-Haul. That is not a joke
about straight men or gay men in In other words, women instantaneously are like, oh my god,
I love you. Let's move in together. Let's, that's a notoriously female thing. So you get two of us
together and that's where you end up. So I'm going to say no, a lot of my guy friends, like they take
a long time. They're very discerning.
And women nowadays, I'm sorry to say this,
this is gonna be very unpopular,
but I think that they sleep around too much
and I think they give themselves away too easily.
I think that makes men lose interest pretty quickly.
And I find that all my guy friends
tend to wait for the girl that made
or fall for the girl that made them wait.
I know that's not going to be popular but it's what I've observed.
Didn't Steve Harvey make a movie about that?
Was a lady something the book that became a movie?
Act like a woman, think like a man.
That's what it is.
Yes.
Think like a man, act like a lady.
Something like that.
Something like that.
Act like a lady, think like a man. Became a movie. Actually a very good movie and he had a rule of 90 days. So in the movie,
they're fooling around. The guy's like, dude, I'm about to freaking go crazy. You gotta wait 90 days.
You gotta wait 90 days. It's actually a very, very funny movie. You will laugh your ass off. Rob,
can you type in act like a lady, think like a man movie? in act like a lady think like a man movie act like a lady think like a man
Movie, see that's it. That's it. Think like a man. That's the movie. Oh my god, Kevin Hart's in it Vinnie
It is absolutely you know who the other guys in there
You know that guys from a 40-year-old version. Oh, man. Did you write this? Did you write this to go?
Hey, I did
Did you write this? Did you write this to a girl?
I did.
Fo sho.
He goes, damn, baby.
Who talks like this?
You don't talk like that to ladies, right?
But do you agree, Tom, do you agree with what Jillian's saying?
And then I'm gonna come to Adam.
Do you agree that men,
because this article's saying men fall in love faster.
She's saying no.
What are your thoughts?
I get the feeling, at least my generation, the men are a little pickier and they may be, you know... Remember there's two speeds for men, right? There's
men that give fake love to get sex and then women that will give sex but they get fake
love, right? and that's like
the fallacy that's a fallacy of the hookup generation.
Kimble you're talking about Adam Live on the air like that.
So I think men men tend to be men tend to be pickier and are less less quick to want
full commitment.
Go ahead that's great. That's what I think. What a breakdown Adam your thoughts
I'm gonna say this out loud Tom's absolutely right bingo. I'm telling you right now. I know guys
Play your own play your Tom
cut the tongue
But I do know men who basically are like, I love you baby. Like, oh my God. And the
women are like, oh my God. And they might use that line from time to time. And then
maybe they're like really good looking guys. And maybe they do that and they say that.
And then they end up marrying Kim Kardashian. I know a guy that did that right between the
lines. But there are real litter in Miami here. Drink this. All right, Tom. You're reeling a little too much
But I tell men this all the time
I tell this all the time dark spin times a dark, dude
If you need any advice when it comes to women it's this
Try your best. I know it's gonna be hard to not fall in love with your eyes because some of these girls, especially on the gram, especially on these dating apps, damn, they look good.
But there's something called face tune.
There's something called push up bras.
There's something called plastic surgery.
There's something called makeup.
These girls look damn good.
I'm just going to say it. That, you know,
like what's the whole joke with Dave Cipolli is like, you know, I'm talking, she looking good.
I'm like, she's wearing a turtleneck. Your titties are still popping out of chest. Like,
like, sorry about that time. I know that, you know, your hummer lifestyle ain't about this,
but for men, you see a girl and it happens and they're like, oh my God.
And you're like, I think I love her.
I think I love her.
And then the makeup comes off, you know, the dress comes off, she has a penis.
You don't need that.
Yeah, it's Macmillan Mulbae's in your house.
Exactly.
Last week.
Whereas women.
Exactly.
It's the crying game.
So for men, there's a difference between love and lust.
One of our guys went to Brazil, wasn't in Brazil yet.
Oh really?
I just learned about Kim Petras the other day.
I told you.
The guy who had a great suit on, not the guy with the great hair.
What you're saying.
Antonio.
But the point is men fall in love like so quickly because they fall in love with your eyes.
Damn you look good.
And then they get to know her, then you find out she does only friends.
That's lust.
You're falling in lust.
I agree. But you're not gonna say, hey you find out she does only fans. That's lust. You're falling in lust. That's the same thing.
I agree.
But you're not gonna say, hey baby, I'm falling in love with you.
Yeah, but this says love.
That is not love.
How many girls have you said I love you to, Adam?
How many girls have I said I love you that you meant it?
I'm actually very protective with my heart.
Adam, don't hold him.
Somebody hold him.
How many times?
How many serious, serious like serious serious relationships?
I've been in my life 48 probably like four serious girls. You said I love well Naomi your girl four girls
You said I love you. Yeah, my wife my ex-wife. I think I told her that
Then the other one think you told her that so for many girls
Seven I was in the military. I was like, I love you. I was in Montana. I was there.
I just very, how many guys? Four. Okay. Perfect. Yeah. What? My dad, my brother, my uncle.
How about you, Jillian? Okay. So Jillian, how many women have you told you love? How
many men have you told you loved? Okay. Oh, here we go. I did have a boyfriend when I
was 17. So I did love him. I did love him.
I don't know that I was super duper attracted,
but he was lovable.
I was very lovable.
Sounds very puppy dog lovish.
Yeah, okay.
Then I got to think of pretty much every fricking girlfriend
because that's what girls do.
And I think I've had, I don't know, like seven of them.
So. Thank you.
Play on player, Jillian, okay?
I mean, I'm old. I don't know if it's
that I'm a player or just a lot of time. I think probably. And what was your longest
relationship? My wife now. Oh, okay. Yeah. Like seven and a half. Well, ready for this.
How many people have you have told you they love you? Oh, I'm in the, oh, all those bitches. All those bitches. Oh my god.
Too many to count.
That was so close.
100%.
How many bitches have told you they love you?
Listen.
I love you Tom.
That's one.
I love you too Tom.
See and Tom doesn't love me yet.
Which goes back to the point. I already love Tom. Love you too, Tom Love me yet, which goes
Hold on faster. I gotta grow on Tom. How many women? No, I love you. I love your authenticity
I love your your openness. Why do you gotta pre-qualify it? Just say I love you. That's it
We don't need the precursor Julian. I love your inhaler. I love everything
PBD not all sappy like that Tom today and last time I
Deal of respect we're gonna go to PBD now. We're gonna go to PBD now. Oh cuz you know to show we're gonna ask him a question
I've had a DVDs on my shelf for 20 years. I told it all this time
Next to your table videos there were his wife's but still
PBD how many women have you said I'd love you too? I think it's two. Two?
Obviously Jen. No, it's three. Okay. It's three, three. Yeah, it's three. I am very like,
that is not a word I draw. That's like a, it's so risky. Yeah. Why is it risky?
The amount of commitment and like stuff that comes with it.
Now, listen, I like you so much.
Oh, that can't go over.
I like you so much.
We're almost there, but I like you.
Maybe one day I'll love you.
Oh!
But I like you.
How'd that work out for you?
Guess what?
It wasn't public relations.
I had a lot of private relationships that I,
if you walk next to me publicly, it's a statement to the market. So I was in public relations, I had a lot of private relationships that if you walk next to me publicly,
it's a statement to the market.
So I was very selective.
So if you're with me publicly,
I'm telling the world, you're mine.
This is a serious thing going on.
But if it's private, like friends would go out there
like, hey man, who's this girl?
I'm like, have a good time.
But it's like a girl on the street.
It's gotta be like. It's marked.
Yeah.
Great job, Jen.
Locking this lady down.
So no, it's not.
You should write a book.
Yeah, no.
Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Here we go, Jillian.
How long did she make you wait?
Whoa.
How long did who?
Jen, how long did she make you wait?
Oh, same night.
What are we talking?
What?
What?
What did you imagine?
What? Jen is going nuts, girl. What are we talking?
No, it was a minute it was a minute because we we went through we went through the book that we read There was a whole process of and I was at a place
Because I was dating four girls at the same time and I was telling all of them. I'm not being promiscuous
I'm trying to look for wife
There was four girls I like and I was talking to all of them and every every one of them asked me, please don't because I knew the girls for many years.
She knows the girls.
Jennifer knew the girls as well.
And I'm like, look man, this is kind of where I'm at.
If we get to the next phase, I'm looking for a wife.
I'm not looking for a girl.
So it was four girls and then boom.
Who's the last one that slept with you?
Last one that slept with me?
Yeah, who slept with you?
Who held out the longest?
Trying to prove a theory here.
I've been married for 15 years.
We've been together for 18 years.
Dude, I don't even know.
But out of those four,
I'm guessing Jen was the holdout.
Yeah, I would say yes, probably.
But I would say the three?
I don't know.
No, you weren't dating Jen at the same time
you were dating the other three.
Jen was separate, right?
No, no, I'm talking to all four of them.
This is very public.
This is very, very public.
It was very open.
It wasn't something that I'm beating around the bush.
It was like, hey, I'm not ready,
but if I know we can go through the questionnaire,
let's see what we're gonna be at. And then boom, four kids later,
we're at 15 years and I think we'll make it to 16.
We take it one year at a time.
That's marriage, one year at a time.
So, after like a big argument, family, whatever issues,
bunch of shit happens,
Sports Center, ESPN, NBC shows up.
So how is everything going on?
You know what, we're just taking it one day at a time,
just marriage thing. We gotta get back and go to the draw board
and look at some of the video. We're focusing on the Eagles next week. We're watching tape
and we're gonna figure this thing out and see what we're gonna do. It's kind of how
this works man. Alright, let's do one last story and then we wrap up. And then Vinny's
gonna take me to the hospital. Oh my god.cha. Oh, Jillian, I'm so sorry.
Guys, this is what happens when you have kids.
They still infect you.
We have fun.
It's unbelievable, ungrateful little bastards.
Vinny gets them from other kids.
By the way, you know, let's do this one here.
So conservatives explode at botched Epstein document
rollout complete disappointment, okay?
And Vinny's one of them.
Rob, is that a clip that you have?
Here we go.
I wanna go to the next one and then we'll wrap it up if you have this is this Jesse
I have Jesse waters
And I also have Pam bondy Pam bondy discusses a dump truck full of documents
I saw this one go to play this clip go for it
We all did and the FBI handed over a couple hundred of pages of documents
But you know Sean I gave them a deadline of Friday at 8 a.m
To get us everything and a source had told me where the documents were being kept.
Southern District of New York, shock. So we got them all by hopefully all of them
Friday at 8 a.m. thousands of pages of documents. I have the FBI going through
them and cash is also now that we have cash here it's a game-changer of course
and cash is going to, Director Patel,
is going to get us a detailed report
as to why the FBI withheld all of those documents.
Okay, I wanna be clear,
because I think people got frustrated,
because they were expecting more.
You were expecting more,
and you didn't find out,
less than 24 hours before the release,
you got a whistleblower that confirmed that there were way more
Documents that they were supposed to turn over and then you found out just before that well sure
You're looking at these documents going these aren't all the Epstein files. You know they were flight logs
They were names and victims names
And we're going where's the rest of the stuff And that's what the FBI had turned over to us.
And so a source said, whoa, all this evidence is sitting in the Southern District of New
York.
So based on that, I gave them the deadline, Friday at 8, a truckload of evidence arrived.
It's now in the possession of the FBI.
Cash is going to get me and himself really a detailed report as to why all these documents
and evidence had been withheld.
And you know, we're going to go through it, go through it as fast as we can, but go through
it very cautiously to protect all the victims of Epstein, because there are a lot of victims.
So you had identified in the next one you have is what is it anything different with
Jesse Rapp or no?
No, more just him questioning.
There are some interesting ties that he does bring up to the SDNY and who is investigating
this case.
Go for it.
So who's in charge at the New York FBI field office?
James Dennehy.
Who's withholding Epstein docs from the Attorney General?
James Dennehy is running the show there.
There he is.
This is the guy who emailed his whole staff to dig in after Trump took office.
And don't forget that James Comey's daughter is an assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern
District of New York.
That's weird.
She worked on the Epstein and Maxwell cases.
She's kind of knee deep in this.
Epstein was facing sex trafficking charges in lower Manhattan.
Where's all that paperwork?
The FBI sees computers, surveillance videos, banking records, file cabinets and photographs
from all of Epstein's properties in New Mexico, the Virgin Islands, Palm Beach and in New
York.
The Justice Department also gave Epstein a sweetheart non-prosecution deal 17 years ago.
Where are those files?
The Bureau of Prisons, where are those files the Bureau of Prisons where are those
files you remember where Epstein killed himself I asked Bill Barr about that why
everything seemed to go wrong that night when I first heard all the information
and all the coincidences here I was suspicious what were the coincidences I
mean those were a lot of coincidences.
Well, one of the cameras was out.
Right.
He was supposed to have a cellmate.
Cellmate left.
They didn't replace the cellmate.
And the guards who were supposed to check them every half hour didn't check them.
So here's kind of where I'm going to this.
All right.
So let me tell you where I'm going with this.
So then the story says, let me just tell you that Jolene Maxwell considered him seeking
presidential pardon and da-da-da-da-da you where I'm going with this. So then the story says, let me just tell you, that Jelaine Max will consider seeking presidential pardon
and da-da-da-da-da from Trump.
She's seeking this.
She's seeking pardon, which guess what?
If she's prompting the seek, I'm liking that.
And I'll tell you why.
Jelaine Max has been here for 20 years.
Pardoning from President Trump or old friend
per a Tallahassee prison source to the mirror.
They all know how close she once was to him.
She tells people often enough,
often enough after a failed 2023,
proclamatory Florida appeal,
Schilder signing with other friends now push.
What has she to lose?
Noting the Trump's recent pardons
and her silence on Epstein,
Trump and Epstein, okay.
All right, so that's that story.
Vinny, for you, I have my thoughts and I have a solution.
I have an idea that I think a lot of people,
if you're supporting this, share it,
but I'm gonna go to Vinny first.
You hear this, how do you feel about it?
Well first of all, James Dennehy,
so if you guys didn't catch what he said,
he's the head of the FBI's New York field office.
He was forced, he didn't just bounce,
he was forced to retire
because they accused him, Pan Bondi and all them, because he's hiding thousands of, why
would this guy, an FBI agent, because mind you, Casper tells in, I think people, there's
a misconception, Julian, that people think that all the people that are in all of a sudden
switched and now they're pro-Trump and they're pro this agenda and that's not the case. Just like back in Russia collusion with Peter Strzok,
Andy McCabe, Lisa Page, it was all we're gonna have an insurance policy and when
for him to say we're gonna dig in that means those same people are still in
charge and they're still protecting each other and James Comey's daughter, guys
you guys all remember who James Comey is, the Trump hating, Hillary Clinton covering up guy.
His daughter is the assistant US attorney for the Southern District of New York, where all
these documents are.
So as much as these people are promising us, I still, Vincent O'Shaughn, I don't think
it's still going to see a light of day because all those people, guys, we have to understand
what this was.
Whoever he worked for, FBI informant, Mossad,, CIA let's just say he was working for all three
there is footage there is a tape of all these elites all these higher-ups that you guys all
are thinking about the allegedly Bill Clinton, Bill Gates all these higher-ups there's footage
of them and the fact that that they're not that it's not gonna see the light of day
shows you how powerful these people are.
The phone calls that are being made saying,
don't you guys dare put that shit out,
because guess what?
Your friend, your brother, your whatever,
we have footage of them.
Because I'm almost positive, I've been saying this forever,
imagine, Jillian, you go to this island
and you're all there chilling.
You go home and you think life is good and you get an encrypted email that says, hey,
listen, we want X, Y, and Z.
You're a governor, you're a president, whatever.
And you say no, they go, oh yeah, click on this link.
And it's you with an underage person that you had no idea about.
They got you for the rest of your life.
It's over.
I don't think anything's going to come up, Pat, because all these people are all connected.
Judges, politicians.
That's the ditty thing too, right?
Yeah.
You know? And you're in there playing hide the salami with
these underage kids and
Inhaler in the other room
Go ahead man, by the way, you know, like at least 500 kids are Googling right now, what is hide the salami?
Don't do that.
What the heck?
You're a dad.
Geez, Tom.
This is...
Go ahead, Tom.
Well, you're free, but go ahead.
Go ahead.
No, I...
More rope?
Go ahead, Tom.
You gave him more rope?
Go ahead, Tom.
We found the salami.
Go ahead.
No, Tom, wait.
I mean, first of all, you want to give us more details
Where is the salami from what part of it? Oh, is it Milan is it? You know?
Chinke that if you're gonna go there to tell what do you want to do? We're going to more
This is the essence. This is the essence of blackmail. This is the same reason that nobody is talking on Diddy,
right, because everybody's caught.
Everybody's caught.
But why does it have to be a blackmail because it's Diddy?
Like, what's the?
In blackmail?
No, no, no.
They're known for certain type of blackmail, like M-A-L-E
or M-A-I-L.
No, it's extortion and coercion.
Oh, M-Aortion and coercion.
Just trying to see if I can come down. Hey Kim, whatever you did to Tom this morning,
he is wild.
It was the old story.
Whatever you did, he's wild.
But let me tell you my idea.
Here's my idea.
No, it's coffee.
Seven is my limit.
Tell me what you think about this.
Tell me what you think about this.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, so you know how the question is, hey, we're going to go find if the gold is at Fort
Knox, okay?
By the way, do you know since the inception of Fort Knox, it cost $540,000 to build.
They built it in one year and after they built it, they moved roughly 450% of our gold is at Fort Knox that's hidden there.
They have security on top of security on top of security that's in this place.
Do you know since then, the first time till today, how many times have opened it up to be seen? Three times.
How many years?
In 70 years, it's only been three times. Eight years. only three times people have gone in to see if the actual gold is there
and no one's ever touched and audited to see if all the gold is there, right?
So what does Trump say? Trump, and you know why they chose this place? They bought 40 acres of land,
they wanted it to be in a place that doesn't have earthquake, no fault line, fault line, no nothing like that.
They do get hurricane and tornado in this area because it's in Kentucky, right Rob. It's like 20 miles outside of Louisville if I'm not mistaken
Very interesting thing about Fort Knox and guess what Trump and
Musk want to do they want to go visit this place
You know if you really want to know
What happened with Epstein, you know what I would do? I'm gonna go visit Jelaine Maxwell.
Oh.
I'm gonna go and say, hey, I'm the president.
I'm sending Cash Patel and Pam Bondi to come and talk to her
and let's strike a deal.
We'll give you a lifetime protection
that nothing can ever be done to you
if you tell us everything about everything.
It's a lifetime, what do you call it, pardon?
And a safe place.
The negotiation, when Sammy the Bull did his deal, they allowed him to do facial surgery
to reconstruct the way he looks so the audience wouldn't recognize him.
If they say, we'll do anything and everything to make you go back to having a normal life, etc., etc., but tell us all of it. They can do that,
can't they?
A thousand percent they can do it.
Will they do that?
No.
No way.
Because a lot of their friends.
Somebody knows all of it already.
So they do.
If they get involved with her, it implies a connection. Last night, Vinnie was talking
about how if Trump pardoned her, he's
he's voting for Kamala. Yeah, I'm voting for Kamala. If Donald Trump, I'm saying what well,
that's a whole different situation. If they just because she's saying like, you're saying,
what now Vinny? Hold on. You're saying you're voting for Kamala. Why? She's joking about the
Kamala thing. But if first of all, if we don't get they don't get to the bottom of this in this
four years. And if Trump pardons her without that type of stipulation,
I am, cause you know where I'm going back to?
I can't give a shit about the,
people are perverted and they're gonna have to deal with God.
It's the children, the underage kids,
that these people have destroyed.
And the lack of care for kids in this country
drives me through the wall.
And they're like, we're going to cover the victims names.
Okay, that's fine.
From day one, we've been seeing accountability.
But if nothing happens, and every day, Pat, every single day I'm posting,
we were promised the JFK, we were promised 9-11, we were promised Epstein,
and nothing's happening, I'm counting business days.
We're on day seven.
That bullshit influencer, oh, oh look at I'm holding.
That was a shit show, that was embarrassing.
What are you guys doing?
There's children involved, there's kids involved.
You guys have kids, you guys have kids.
Imagine that 12 year old that was there, oh right here.
You were raped and then they potentially killed you.
And we're playing this game, it's absolutely ridiculous. So if they do that, I mean that's a great idea. I mean if she spills
the beans, but if they just pardon, no I'm not playing that game bro. I voted for this. This is
what I voted for. For the country to be back, for the border to be closed, and for these demons,
these demons to be held accountable. Like Fauci, he pardoned everybody. He pardoned everybody.
I want, get the state involved.
We deserve one person.
I don't give a shit who it is.
I don't care if it's Bill Gates or whoever.
I want one person going to jail.
One, give us one.
Is that asking for too much, Tom?
No, and it seems pretty simple.
The federal government's in possession of all these files.
Yep.
Go redact the kids' names and of all these files. Go redact
the kids' names and the things that you need to redact. And then let's see. It's not like
you have to investigate it. You have everything. And if there is a, you know, if you've got,
you pardon Maxwell and she gives you the names of celebrity number 81, you
know, and some poor schlep celebrity goes to prison, right? It's sort of like the end
of the movie, the big short where the only guy that went to jail was that one guy from
Deutsche bank. Remember? And they go to the end of it and they, you know, everybody went
to jail. Actually, no, no one went to jail. They all went on doing what they're doing
Except this one guy from Deutsche Bank if that's what they do then I think you have less trust after than you have right now
Thank you. I agree. Well, I think the one person that did go to jail was Gillian Massey is the guy
Yeah, I mean
She was the sacrificial lamb. Yes, but she
was there the whole time. So I don't know. I mean, I think Andrew Tate brought up a good
point. I know that's your big phangelian. And he says, Look, and I understand where
you're at. I understand that there's what does he have to say about the he basically
said, Listen, they said there's gonna essentially said, Listen, are we really gonna bring down this person and this person at the
expense of $100 billion at the expense of whether it's a world
gates, whether whether it's Leon Black, whatever name,
whatever amount of money, are you really gonna open up pandora's
box, I think we have to put this one person in jail never gonna and risk all
This all your jobs all your livelihoods all your houses all your kids college tuitions all your grandma's this this
Do you think do you personally think it's worth it knowing exactly what these people did and what was the point and meaning and
Look at all the all the stuff because people have control over
people but what you mean these people if it was Epstein who was the
Mastermind he wasn't the master. He was the guy that they put in place just like the training for me
It wouldn't like to get as Tom alluded to
Celebrity number 76 to throw him in jail as a sacrificial lamb
What does that do? Is
that really going to help you sleep better at night? Cause they put one random, I don't
think none of them, nobody went there. That was random. Cause if one of them falls at
him, that's the thing they're all going to fall. They're all going to fall. But Tate
did say it's like this kind of soap opera that people who are just in this, don't like,
and I disagree with them. I'm sure it told it don't know. No, no. But see, and I disagree with him.
It's not a soap opera.
Well, you should have told it to his face then.
No, no, but he was going on his rant.
I don't agree.
No, I push back because I don't, Adam, it's accountability for those kids, even though
God, all those people, at least I could sleep well at night, that they're going to have
to meet their maker.
And if you read the Bible, Matthew chapter 16 verse 8 says what?
If you make any of these young ones stumble or sin,
it's better for you to tie a millstone around your neck
and throw yourself in the deepest depths of the ocean.
Meaning, go kill yourself, go die.
Don't mess with the kids.
And that's the problem.
And we just look it over.
I don't give a shit about billions or how we suffer.
Let, I want to know who the hell was doing what.
And that's it.
I think it's who was behind the entrapment piece that they don't want us to know of course how the entire operation?
I think is this scandal. I mean cuz it's like okay, Prince Andrew blah blah blah. Maybe Michael Jack. Okay, you know
No one's shocked to hear that celebrities are
Creepy perverted or deviant. It's not new news. You made a great point, you know what?
And the tabloids have known since he was 26.
That's a fantastic point she just made.
The people, because think about it, Adam.
FBI informant, CIA, Mossad.
You know what that means?
Great point.
These people were cool with underage kids having sex
and raped and whatever
because they wanted to put leverage on politicians
and actors and shit. nobody even talks about that
That was your plan. That was the the blackmailing
Horseshoe what I'm saying. That's why we're never gonna do what right now that they've levered them. What did they do with the leverage?
God only knows that's God and that's you're right. That's another thing
Okay, so let's say it was Masad
So it was Masad behind levering but for what purpose would they do with the lever?
Influence that's the bigger
Why are we like why okay? I get Masad I get he was an FBI a form on top of
The one thing we're gonna still work for massage. I didn't really I did not
Father work for Massad. Do we know that? I didn't realize we were, I did not realize I was gonna. So, Galeen Maxwell's father worked for Massad.
That I know.
Let's just back up.
What do we know for sure?
That he was an FBI informant.
Well, because you just heard about this a couple days ago.
That's my point.
But you never heard about Massad?
Did you never hear about Massad?
I've heard a lot of things.
Okay.
But what do we know?
Galeen Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, worked for, he was an agent.
I mean Tom
Obsessed the daily work for a 99 cent store doesn't mean pat works for nine minutes. That's what do we know for sure?
But record show as he was a key witness in the trial of two bears Stearns executive journal. Yeah, but that came out in 2018
Yeah, that was 2018. No, yeah, this isn't no I'm with you. What just came out this past week that Epstein definitely was
No, no, no, look at me. I don't know if he definitely did you do research on this story?
I didn't do research. He said he's an FBI informant. Who's they? And they've been saying that he was a Mossad agent for years
So maybe he could be both. Maybe he could be both. I didn't realize it was confirmed.
Wasn't it confirmed? He was an FBI informant? The Daily Beast just did an article about it. It was not confirmed. I don't know
I mean, there's literally no news or dating. So any okay, so who came out with that former FBI?
I listen my you know, I stand
Turns out I'm a victim of the fake news
Wait a minute. Wait a minute
Just to be fair to Adam a lot of people were saying that it came out that he was an FBI
Yeah, so he came out a few days ago so but this has been this has been
since 2018 these claims have been made. Masad is when I had his brother on and
we spoke it was very fishy Rob you remember this when we had the two-hour
podcast with Mark Epstein. It's just it's very obvious there's something very weird
going on with the connections and the support
and the people that they had.
But,
I don't disagree with that by the way.
It just hasn't been concluded yet.
You know when,
you know when you think about certain people
who joined the army,
who was the football player that joined the military?
Pat Tillman.
Pat Tillman.
Pat Tillman, right?
Friendly fighter.
And he leaves a multi-million dollar contract to go serve the military.
And that epic picture, look at that.
That guy just looks like a soldier.
Look at that face.
You know what's gonna happen?
I don't know who and I don't know how
and what the community is gonna be.
If nothing comes out, there's gonna be some people
that are gonna be running just on this.
They're gonna be like, you know what, F it.
I'm gonna go and run for office because I have to find out what's going on there. There's gonna be some people that are gonna be running just on this they're gonna be like, you know what? F it I'm gonna go and run for office because I have to find out what's going on there
there's gonna be some people that will do that who that is, I don't know because
I don't know if that is in Trump's top five list. I
Don't know if it's in his top ten list. I really don't think it is. I don't think it should be he never ran on it
I don't think it's a top five or top ten list
I think it's something that some of his audience wants, just like the crypto community, this
community, that community.
But I don't know if it's on his top ten list.
We'll see.
You know, Cash Patella is supposed to be the one that's like, hey, I'm telling you, Glenn
Beck is here in two weeks.
I'm telling you, I'm telling you, in two weeks.
Ten days.
All right, got it.
No problem.
What happened? That thing went viral that day on X. Nothing happened. But we'll see. I'm telling you, in two weeks. All right, got it, no problem.
What happened? That thing went viral that day on X, nothing happened.
But we'll see, we'll see what's gonna happen.
Be patient.
Be patiently aggressive.
You don't think nothing will happen.
The one thing that did happen,
the one thing that did happen is we have a new idea
for a shirt with Tom, okay?
It's a new shirt coming soon.
What's it called?
Hide the sausage.
Hide the salami. Oh, right. Hide the salami. With Tom's face on, it's like hey, it's a new shirt coming soon. What's it called? Hide the sausage. Hide the salami.
Oh, right.
Hide the salami.
With Tom's face on it's like hey, it's a new shirt, right?
Instead of like BizDoc, numbers, you know, scream, whatever.
No, it's called the hide the.
Can I say about this one?
Yeah, go for it.
So guys, this shirt, Rob, do you put the collection up?
So whoever spends the most on this collection,
let me stand up for it, which is freaking hilarious.
At St. Patrick's but David, get this. We're all gonna sign it. You can sign it with us.
Yeah. We're gonna send it to your house. We're all gonna sign it right now. You don't like
the shirt. You don't like it. I think they should definitely buy it. The one with the
face sound, bro. Like if you want to buy it to keep it to tease me with it, do it. But
the other ones, the green ones, those look look sick the future looks right yeah they look sick matter of fact I'll word myself on that day as well
having said that Rob is Gary Brecker going tomorrow? Yes sir a link is in the description
as well as in the chat tomorrow 9 a.m. tomorrow right off the bat we get into it and he talked
we talked about a lot of stuff a lot of stuff so it's gonna be interesting gotta go on tomorrow
take care everybody, stay tuned.
Some big things are coming soon.
God bless, bye bye bye bye.