PBD Podcast - Zelenskyy's OMINOUS Putin Threat | PBD Podcast | Ep. 568

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so pleased that you take sweet victories You know this life meant for me Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here You are a one on one? The sun's right there, dude
Starting point is 00:00:20 I think I've ever said this before Alright Rob, what episode are we on? 568. 568. We got back from Utah this morning. We landed at 415, got to the house, 5 o'clock, got dressed, came to the office. Couple of us got an hour nap and I were doing a podcast together. But we had such a great time at this event yesterday with Vivente. There was three, four thousand people in the room. The energy was off the charts.
Starting point is 00:00:52 It was unbelievable. Anyways, but we're still going to do the PBD podcast even though we're going on fumes right now, but it's just another day. All right, so let's go through a couple of things we got here. Trump's administration ends taxpayer funded housing programs for illegals. Let me read that to you one more time. Trump's administration ends taxpayer-funded housing programs for illegals. So that means at one point we had that, which is the weirdest part about this.
Starting point is 00:01:20 NASA says Trump is responsible for Stranded Astronaut Saga ending, it would not have happened. Tom's got some thoughts on that. Canadians are boycotting American vacations. Tom is devastated by that, but the stats have a little bit more story when he breaks it down for you. It's a WSJ story. Some Europeans reconsider trips to US in protest against Trump's. They don't want to come to vacation here.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Some people in Miami may actually be excited about that, right? You got people that are not going to be, you know, they're going to have a little bit more traffic than others, but we'll see. We'll see what's going to happen there. DHS Secretary Kristi Noem reveals plan to eliminate FEMA. Florida considers bill to roll back child labor laws to fill jobs once held by undocumented immigrants. Greenlanders are angry and confused over unwanted US visit. The $20 burrito you order from DoorDash could cost you $70. Wait
Starting point is 00:02:15 till you hear this story. It's very interesting. Gen Zs, spurging on pricey concert tickets, which may be the reason why they can't afford to buy a house. Nine weird recession indicators from lipstick to snacks. Copper to $12,000 this year, say major trading groups. Then we got a couple other stories here through the roof. CNN data guru breaks down search in Americans saying, US on the right track under Trump. And note, Disney loses top spot in TV viewing to YouTube and we got a couple other stories here.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Stephen A. Smith and LeBron have been going back and forth. LeBron decides to go, he rarely does any podcast, but he decides to go on the Pat McAfee podcast and he talks about why him and Jordan don't talk. He talks about a bunch of stuff with Stephen A. Stephen A. comes back and responds and says if he would have done anything I would have punched him in the face. And then I think Stephen A also said he's a liar. He called him a lot of different things. And it was pretty nasty, but we'll talk about that. Ice agents detained Tufts University's grad students after pro-Palestinian opinion piece. Snow White, producer, son, says Rachel Zegler, you have to see this Instagram
Starting point is 00:03:27 post by the way, it's fantastic, says Rachel Zegler hurt the film's box office with her actions in the since deleted comment and he says that she hurt everybody else's job. People were making this movie, they wanted to be able to say that I worked on a movie that did very well. They said she destroyed the chance of that happening. Zelensky says Putin will die soon and vows it will come to an end. Who the hell says something like that? Zelensky says Putin will die soon? He doesn't value his life.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Is that a threat or does he know something the rest of the people don't know? I don't know. That sounds like a threat to me. The Zelensky press conference live from the grassy knoll. Yeah, and then we got a couple other things. A judge, Vinny's got some thoughts on that. And then Andrew Tate, what is the story? A girlfriend, Bree Stern says,
Starting point is 00:04:15 you know, Andrew nearly choked her, unconscious. Rob, can we post the content, the notes as well on PBD Podcast Circle, please? Let's make sure to do that. Okay, fantastic. All right, so those are the stories and we got a couple of videos that we'll show you as well in PBD Podcast Circle, please. Let's make sure to do that. Okay, fantastic. All right, so those are the stories, and we've got a couple of videos I will show you as well. Having said that, nothing excites me more
Starting point is 00:04:32 than when I'm out there and I watch people wearing Future Looks Pride gear. It's getting bigger, and it's getting now to a lot of different places, which is fantastic. And ladies, you've been asking for it, you've been talking to VT Merch, and the team's been listening to you spring collection is here now We have some of this active wear hats for those of you that work out that you want something lighter your runners
Starting point is 00:04:53 But you still want to represent the vitamin gear. We have it in many different colors, you know, yellow You got them in pink. You got them in baby blue. You got them in the Tiffany blue color You got them on all these other things that are here. And for some of you, what did you call this Rob? There was a name for this? Rob, what do you call it? Active wear. Active wear, but this hat here for some that like this style, this is out as well, some
Starting point is 00:05:16 of you guys asked for it. And then the shirt. I'm telling you the material of these shirts when you put them on is unreal. Unreal the material when you feel it and you put it on. This is a new one that came in Future Look Sprite with the logo on the front. We got the sweater that's here as well. Navy blue, Future Look Sprite. The material is ridiculous. Honestly, the material to me is unbelievable. Did you see these? I tried to get one of these but he said they don't have my size yet.
Starting point is 00:05:44 You'll get us medium one of these days. No, I get large homies. You're not large. Rob, is this on the web? Can you see these? I tried to get one of these when he said they don't have my size yet Oh my you'll get us medium one of these. No, I get large on me You're not large Rob is this on the web Can you see if this is the webs on the website gold? Can you go to the gold one? Right? Yeah Oh my goodness looking it's not just screen printed. Those are like Yeah pops pops off the shirt. Yeah, that's right. And then on the back you got the vitamin gear Go to V teamcom, place your order. We want a million of us wearing this everywhere we go. Vinnie went the other day, he was looking at a couple cars, he's debating between getting a cyber truck and a couple other cars.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And while we're having a conversation, he says one of the guys rolls up in a, like you can tell beat up purple and gold while you're taming hats. But we love seeing that. Anyways, alright guys, let's get right into it. First story to get into. Out of everything that we got going on here, let's see which one we go into first. Oh my goodness, which one? Let's go into this one here.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Nine weird recession indicators from lipstick to snacks. There's a lot of talks right now about recession. A lot. A lot of people want it to happen. Some people think it may happen due to some of the policies that we're having, but we kind of need to go through it. But let's take a look at this. So nine weird recession indicators from lipstick to snacks according to Business Insider.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Number one, snack index. People buy fewer snacks during recessions with evidence from 2008 Great Recession showing reduced consumption of snacks, fast food and fresh produce. General Mills, maker of Chex Mix and Nature Valley's Granola Bars reported a 5% drop in net sales in Q3 of 2025. We're not even in Q3. Is it orders? I don't know why it says Q3 here. Number two, mini alcohol bottle indicator.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Shoppers switched to mini bottles of alcohol during economic uncertainty instead of full-sized ones. And CEO of Lawson Whiting says, the reason small sizes are doing well is more because of the cyclical inflation and its consumer that's pinched. Okay, so if you're ordering those mini alcohol bottles, that's an indicator. Three, lipstick index.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Coined by Leonard Lauder, a billionaire heir to Estee Lauder in 2001, when lipstick sales rose during a recession. Lauder's theory, lipstick sales and the health of the economy were in inverse proportion to one another. Sales rose in 2001 by 11%, boomed in 2008 during great recession and great recently despite high inflation. Interesting. Lipstick.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Underwear index. What is this one? Popularized by former Fed agent Alan Grishman suggests that men delay buying new underwear during downturns. Yeah, this is the chairman of the Fed talking about interest rates and underwear sales. My dad since 21 years old for my birthday and my Christmas only gets me Costco underwear. I don't understand. I have enough underwear right now that I'm not open to start a side business.
Starting point is 00:08:38 So if anybody's struggling guys, my dad's got cases of underwear in our house. I don't know, he's worried about underwear. But I love you dad I know you've been doing that for a while so sales dipped in 2008 same thing with underwear Hemline index it claims that skirts shorten in good economic and lengthen and bad ones That is so weird from the 1920s so in good economy Ladies were shorter skirt in bad economy, they wear longer skirts. How the hell does that make any sense?
Starting point is 00:09:08 Next one. Cardboard box indicator. In early 2009 during the recession, shipments declined drastically and manufacturers operated, rates fell. This one's real. Yeah. Diaper rash indicator. Diaper rash.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Parents, rationed diapers costing $500 to $900 a year during rough times, increasing diaper rash and ointment sales. And in 2011, diaper sales fell. Ointment sales rose 8%, according to Wall Street Journal. Champagne index. US sales fell from 23 million bottles pre-2008 to 12.5 million bottles in 2000. That's a 50% drop off according to UC Berkeley. And then to 18% it dropped in 2020 before hitting a $5.7 billion in 2021 in Socializing
Starting point is 00:09:50 Resume. So, and the last but not least, Stripper Index, exotic dancers, notice recessions early, says Aliyah Kisick, CEO of Financial Literacy. Economist Peter added a decrease in restaurant tipping suggests that consumers are reducing discretionary spending Okay, Adam your thoughts on the story. Well, these are all just indicators, right? So just like the S&P 500 is an index as an indicator of what's going on in the economy by the way since January Tom help me out here. How was the market performed since Trump has taken office? Well, it's it's down in the last trailing 30, trailing 60 as market sentiment is reacting negatively
Starting point is 00:10:34 to the tariffs and what that could do to future earnings. And so there's a lot of concern about that. But also the S&P, I think, just had a a four day rally in the midst of all this. I think just last four days in a row. Right. So I feel like just recently the market is now broken even like it was negative for the year recently. But we all we've all discussed what's going on with the tariffs. We feel like it's a necessary evil to help the economy.
Starting point is 00:10:59 It's almost like I just got to get through some food. It's almost like if you have cancer and you have to take a cancer drug or have to deal with going through the ill effects of that, that's exactly what's going on with the economy right now. But here are three things that I want to point out of these nine indicators. Number one, instead of buying regular bottles of alcohol, they're buying many bottles of alcohol because you still got to get drunk. Right, Vin? I mean, you understand like people when they're alcoholics and they're at the
Starting point is 00:11:29 party. I know you're alcohol-free these days. Yeah, May 31st is two years. And we're very proud of you. If you were still drinking, rather than getting a quart or a liter, you get little things, you take them in your pocket. All day. Okay. Number two, the diaper rash index. By the way, let me ask you guys. Yes, sir? Have you ever bought small alcohol?
Starting point is 00:11:47 Yes. Have you? No. Really? Oh, honestly, I can say- Because Tequila Jose Cueva was so cheap to small bottles, why would I go buy the small ones? Even when I was in the army and I was broke.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Well- You guys really bought the small ones? If I was driving. Oh, okay. Really? Hey, if I was going somewhere, like if I was driving to a comic club- Oh, if I was driving. I would do it and then, Doug,
Starting point is 00:12:05 I wasn't an alcoholic, there ain't no shame in my game. I would right before I went in. But would you drink and drive or would you pull over and take sips? I did a lot of things, you know. I did a lot of crazy stuff. Okay, so what else? Let's see what else you got. But here's another little hot tip for anybody out there.
Starting point is 00:12:17 You might have noticed, you know, drinks in clubs are like a hundred times more expensive. So you know, you bring a couple mini bottles in the club Next thing you know or you bring a you have a girl with a purse How much are you bring the club right now in Miami? Yeah, 20 bucks a that's in what so for I mean just standard cocktail Yeah I mean single martini off and just shelf vodka not a upscale if you want a cocktail It's gonna cost you 20 bucks. Maybe it's 16 and they add tax and tip, bing, bing, bing, you're 20.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Sometimes it's, here you go right here. Shout out to Live Miami. And that's why we were drinking the carpet. That's why we would get, I'm dead serious, we would get the little bottles and before we walked into the club, we would drink fast, go and have fun, have one drink in the night. Or you have a girl, or the purse, she brings a couple bottles in the club, she does drink fast, go and have fun and have one drink in the night. Or you have a girl, a purse, she brings a couple of bottles in the club, you know, she does your dirty work for you. Okay, so here's another thing, the three things.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Number two, the diaper rash index. I mean, how tough are times if you're not going to basically get enough diapers and diaper rash, what ointments, Vaseline, what do you use for kids these days? I don't know I don't have kids but your kids are gonna suffer. There you go But then here's the big one Pat and I'm sure it's gonna create a little storm here, but you know who notices recessions before anybody Forget Jim Kramer forget Warren Buffett. It's candy to the stage candy to the stage because strippers notice recessions before anybody, because they are the sole beneficiary of consumer discretionary spending.
Starting point is 00:13:55 They're used to making it rain $100 bills at a time. Next thing you know, they're getting quarters. Here we go. Uh-oh, recession happening right now. So the leading Indian, so across the U S and the UK strip clubs have slowed down significantly. I mean, the last thing we need for a market is to go flat. Same thing for the ladies out there, but here's a little quote from Nikki Adams, who runs the campaign group, English collective of prostitutes.
Starting point is 00:14:23 She says the cost of living crisis is having terrible effect on sex workers. We recorded a 30% jump in the last year in the number of callers seeking support. Women are calling us upset and scared. Women are frantically asking if we can provide food vouchers for food banks. So they're having housing problems. I guess this is going on all around the globe right now, but it is a leading indicator of a recession. So we'll see what happens. So Rob, the poll you ran of do you see the United States going into recession in 2025? Okay, watch how it came out. It's actually very interesting how everybody voted. 2,400
Starting point is 00:15:01 people have voted so far, 2,500 people have voted so far, and the vote results are 53 no, 47 yes. But 47 believe it could happen this year. So it's 50-50. It's 50-50. Tom, your thoughts on this. So some of these indicators are interesting headlines, and it's something that business media can put out, and this is from Business Insider.
Starting point is 00:15:23 But there are several of these indicators that are very real and people that track the economy watch them. I watch the cardboard box indicator because that is a clear indication of shipping and you can see more or less happening. Also, it's very interesting is when inflation and when times are tough, the snacks are down. People aren't buying the bag. I mean Halloween They're not buying the bag of like Snickers minis and those little treats and stuff those stay out of the grocery cart because you know things are a little tough and I have never in my life and I think everybody on this podcast what people know is that we're not Partying and none of us have full liquor closets at home
Starting point is 00:16:02 I don't ever remember buying little bottles to take them home that may be a whole different slice of life But I don't remember ever remember that you know you see them on airplanes on the cart when people do but I Don't know about that one, but the snack index and the cardboard index I would see that what's a little alarming to me is I really was bummed out to see I hadn't heard about this before The diaper rash indicator that parents would actually leave the diaper on their kid a little bit longer because now if you've walked down the diaper aisle it's expensive diapers are not cheap they're very expensive and so by the way if you know people that are that have kids one of the greatest gifts you can give them
Starting point is 00:16:43 is those newborn diapers. Go to Costco, get a couple of those big giant shrink wrap things because they're expensive. But I didn't know about that one, but I also had heard about the champagne index, that the high end wines and champagne, that that is another very, very clear index. I find the underwear index in Alan Greenspan funny. Alan Greenspan, we talk about it interest rates What concerns you about the economy? Well, um, you know, the underwear index has really got me bothered I just can't see Alan Green. Tom talking about you want to know I love you and appreciate you because you're two leading indicators were the
Starting point is 00:17:21 Box cardboard box indicator and the mini snacks. Yeah. And I'm looking at the mini alcohol bottles bottles and the stripper index, but we meet in the middle at the diaper rash indicator. So that's amazing. So BBD, which of these nine do you focus on? Oh, I couldn't even tell you. I mean, the reality of it is yesterday we're at the event, the event event and it's the last 15 minutes and everybody starts asking different questions this one kid asked a question so Patrick let me ask you if you were me what would you invest in right now would it be gold would it be commodities would it be futures would it be stocks would it be this would it be a theory and would it be it's asking me
Starting point is 00:18:04 all these questions. And I'm like, how old are you? Guy's like 18, 19 years old. I said, how much money did you make last year? How long does he take to answer? He goes like this. There's 4,000 people in the room by the way. And I'm no joke, he goes, 10. That's like 10 what?
Starting point is 00:18:21 He says, I made $10,000 last year. Living at home. And I'm not making fun I know what teen years old yeah, so I said you're making $10,000 And you're asking me where to put your money with futures and you know All this stuff. I said brother what you need to fix is you have an income problem You don't have an investment problem. You have an income problem Let's go fix that income problem that you have and look I get it I was in the army. I got out of the Army as an Army E-4
Starting point is 00:18:45 specialist. I was making 20 grand a year. It's not a lot of money when you're making, you know, you're trying to find a way to increase your income. For people that are watching this, this is what's going on right now. You have to ask yourself if, in what way this is impacting your income, what you're doing to protect yourself from this. Some people are kind of going through and then they're feeling it and there are seasons to it that you're going through. So I've always been from the school of thought of having cash. I think the biggest reaction from last night's event was when I told the story about having cash in place for opportunities.
Starting point is 00:19:21 There's nothing more evergreen than always making sure you have an emergency fund. Always making sure you have money in place. Always making sure you live below your means. It's such an evergreen, boring concept to talk about, but it applies to everyone. The more you can do that, like I remember when I was running an insurance company, and let's just say we only had $100,000 in the bank just the first year. We got all the way down to $13,000. The way I would look at $100,000 is,
Starting point is 00:19:49 I have 100 $1,000 decisions to make. I have only 10 $10,000 decisions to make. I have only four $25,000 decisions to make. So I'm like, oh, this is kind of scary, right? So if you got 10 grand in a bank and you're trying to do your thing with your husband, your wife, your kids, your family, like dude, I only have 10 $1,000 decisions to make. I only have 50 $200 decisions. That's not a lot.
Starting point is 00:20:16 So you got to make sure you do whatever you can to increase your savings and if it means living below your means and talking to the family about that trip that you were going to spend $4,000 that you shouldn't, don't. Save that money right now while you're going through it. Okay, let me get to the next story here. That $20 burrito you ordered from DoorDash could now cost you $70. A new DoorDash and Klarna partnership. Rob, do you have a video on this?
Starting point is 00:20:41 Rob Stewart I do. Yvonne Perreira Watch this one here, folks. This is a little bit, again, it's a, there's a reason why companies like Klarna exist and they're fantastic for the right people, but now doing it for DoorDash when it comes out to ordering burrito? Watch this here. ... from Klarna. This one is landing and partnering up with DoorDash.
Starting point is 00:21:02 In the coming months, customers will be able to use Klarna services to purchase groceries, retail, and a DashPass annual plan. And customers will have the option to pay for their purchases in full in four equal installments or defer payments to a more convenient time here. Shares right now of DoorDash up by one and a half percent. Yeah, and you know, I'm not proud to admit this, but I am a DashPass member. Really? Yes I am. How long? Member since? For like two years.
Starting point is 00:21:30 So we get it. So but here's the thing it went from the BNPL model we've talked about this many many times in 2019 the buy now pay later model the two billion dollars in loans that's in 2019. Okay. It went from two billion in 2019 to three years later, ready, to 34 billion dollars in loans. From two billion to 34 billion. Rob, what is the total BNPL right now in 2025? Can you see it? BNPL loans in 2025.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Does it tell you? Let's see if it comes out. Go for it, Tom. I got one source on 2024, 132. Wow. Wait a minute, that's insane. Mark experienced it. According to a report by Fintech Futures,
Starting point is 00:22:19 the global, global, but what is it in the US? Global is 560 billion. And then United says the BNP appellate zone can go to, what was that? So there's 122. 122 billion, so. Yep, and I got 132. In 2019, is two billion.
Starting point is 00:22:33 2022, 34 billion. Today, 122 billion. Tom, your thoughts on the story. First of all, I think there's a horror going on with that generation, and that is, if you don't have $20 in your checking account, in your bank, so you could use your ATM card connected to Apple Pay or whatever you connect
Starting point is 00:22:57 your DoorDash thing, there's a problem there. There is a serious problem. You have an income problem. That you would actually say, Clarna, now here's what DoorDash wants. They want the same thing any other retailer wants, whether you're selling, it doesn't matter what you're selling. They want more ability to pay so they can maximize customer opportunities. For sure.
Starting point is 00:23:17 To buy from them. Yes. That's normal. So DoorDash is like, well we do it this way, this way, this way, this way, you know, Clarna, okay, come on in. All right, what's the deal? And we make a deal with Klarna. The shocking part of it is,
Starting point is 00:23:29 the reason they're thinking about making that deal is because what they're looking at it. And this is really, and the $20, $70 not wrong, because if you miss a payment on BNPL, the fees are heavy. These interest rates are 35% and more. And so you don't have a little bit in your checking account and you can use BNPL to buy dinner? So the calculation, Rob, the calculation, Tom, on this DoorDash burrito, this guy says,
Starting point is 00:24:00 Robert Lawless, University of Illinois law professor, specializing in consumer finance says, I just don't think it's an advisable way to be paying for your door dash. Your $20 burrito could soar to $70 with fees, tips, and potential late charges announced last week. That is insane. Yeah, so late charges are big. And so two months, you're late on your bill and and everything all of a sudden you look back at what you paid
Starting point is 00:24:27 It's like wolf. That's like when people run out on Black Friday How many times have we talked about actually Adam talks about on on you know when he talks about saving that money? if you go out on Black Friday and buy that TV on sale with a 27% credit card and then take six months to pay for the TV. The TV is no longer on sale. You just paid all that interest. Adam, thoughts? Well, I don't know if it's the buy now, pay later thing or if it's just putting on a credit card is just understanding that whatever you're spending, that you're putting on a I'll pay
Starting point is 00:24:59 it off later is going to cost you significantly more than just paying for it in cash. It's a $20 burrito. Can we just talk about the fact that burritos are now $20? Okay, that's what they call shrinkflation that Joe Biden talked about. This is the opposite of that. $20 a burrito is a huge deal. That's three burritos. There you go. But this is what I would call death by a thousand bites. Everyone out there, while they're doing their budget budget, here's an example of a budget. Everyone has your big three expenses that I talk about
Starting point is 00:25:28 all the time, especially on Manecto, a lot of my Manectors out there. Your biggest three expenses are your housing, which should take at most 30% of your income. Number two, your transportation, which should be as much as you can below 20% of your total gross income But then the third one is your F&B your food and beverage which you should try to keep between 10 to 15 percent of your budget. So what happens to your budget when a $20 burrito? After you put it on door-dash or buy now pay later Do you pay the interest you're paying the minimum on your credit card next thing? You know your $20 burrito just cost you 70 bucks
Starting point is 00:26:01 You're paying the minimum on your credit card. Next thing you know, your $20 burrito just costs you 70 bucks. But then that's over and over and over again, because what I've noticed is when people do this, they don't do it once in a while. They do it for every meal. They're door dashing. They're Uber eating. They're putting on a credit card. And now the average credit card in America, the average American, I think,
Starting point is 00:26:23 owes $7,000 on a credit card, how much of that is a burrito? How much of that is drinks at the bar? How much of that is just going out and having a good time and you don't realize that the hundred bucks you spent is actually going to cost you $500 in the end. So do better with your money because it's going to cost you in the end. What is this? The total credit card debt in 2020, end of 2024 was 1.2 trillion. I remember that the average credit card household 11 K, the average credit card balance per person 67 30 by the end of it. By the way, this makes me think about
Starting point is 00:26:55 the one story that, uh, you know, with all the damages that they're doing to Tesla vehicles, you know, the, uh, all the stuff that'sandalization. You know what it's doing though. There was even a clip Rob, did you see this? Fox News reached out about this one guy who, I don't know if you guys saw this or not, absolutely disrespectful what this guy did. Probably one of the worst vandalization... Do you know which one I'm talking about Rob or no? I don't.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Oh, the guy near the airport? Yeah. The guy near the airport? Oh, that guy was... This guy is by the airport and he's at the airport, he sees this Tesla, he gets out of the Tesla. Can you make it bigger Rob? This is the most disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Watch this, watch what he does to this Tesla. I don't think I can watch this dude. What an idiot, liberal look. So what is he doing? He's keen the car That's keen the car. He's writing and The car in the back Loser anybody that's damaged physique though. Oh, no, he definitely does squats But I want you to think about this as crazy as this is and and by the way, this is a regular
Starting point is 00:28:13 Let me tell you while this has happened and we're having business meetings and somebody's watching out the window saying What the hell happens on this campus, right? I got a guy the other day comes, it's a very serious conversation about a whistleblower. Vinny's walking around, running in a dress and a spandex. I don't know what it was, that polyester shirt. Yeah, I was doing the Trump sketch. Here's the one thing, Rob, that you were talking about. You have a Tesla yourself, right?
Starting point is 00:28:39 I do. Okay, what have you noticed with the cost of insurance for Tesla lately? So my six month premium came up this week and I had to re-sign with my auto insurer and my auto insurance went without any accidents, without any tickets, without adding any new vehicles. We went from $350 a month for four different vehicles. Yeah, I have two Jeeps, a camper van. Those are all 70, 70 and 90. So in total I'm paying, what was it, 230 for those vehicles.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And then on top of that, I was paying an additional 120 for my Tesla each month. All of a sudden, I got the new six-month premium. It went from $350 a month to $460 a month for all four vehicles. The only thing I can think of is that my Tesla is costing more. Because the other vehicles haven't there it's a 2012 Jeep a 2008 Jeep and a 1997 Dodge camper van it's not like State Farm is trying to milk me on the cost for this so the only vehicle that
Starting point is 00:29:34 we have that could see that price increase was the Tesla yeah that's interesting and what does the story say here Tesla insurance costs could surge can you go a little bit lower to see what it's saying so Musk Musk rejected criticism on X formula that he owns, postal contracts, and what kind of leftist. Okay, so he's suing somebody that keeps calling him that, the Bowman guy, right? Who is that? He's claiming he's saying threatening that he may sue him, but can you go down to see if there's any data here? So how much does it cost to insure? Okay. So with a price stack of $35,000 for its cheapest car on the market, insurance to cover them already expensive more than other cars go a little bit lower. So the average cost of full coverage for car insurance for a Tesla
Starting point is 00:30:14 Model 3 is $3,495 a year. That seems like a lot. So that's $2.80 a month. Okay, according to Bankrate, that is about $800 more per year than the national average of $26.78 for Toyota Camry, according to bank rate. However, Model X and Play drivers pay much higher rates. Comparatively, average BMW i4 insurance costs are closer to Model 3, $37.92. In general, EVs are now 23% more expensive to insure than comparable to a gas model. Why would that be the case though? With an average annual full coverage of 33% for 23% more time.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Tesla Model 3, Model Y, Model X are more expensive EVs to insure in February 2020. Confirm the cost of full insurance for Tesla Model 3. According to Insurify, increased 30% last year to $43.62. This is a 25% higher in cost than the comparable Mercedes Benz A-Class, the average cost of a full coverage. So to me, Rob, can you type in Tesla cost of insurance and go to news? Just type in Tesla on Google.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Tesla cost of insurance and news. And can you go to news and zoom in a little bit? Okay, so three weeks ago, our team is at Tesla, three point five is unlimited, we took a poor industry reputation. Okay, Tesla insurance has been pricey, we'll vandalize and make it higher.
Starting point is 00:31:34 That's a what? That's a CNN story. Can you click on that three days ago? Can we just see what stats they're giving in there? Zoom in to see if you see any numbers. Ba ba ba ba ba, 1,300. And a damaged Tesla could cost $1,300 more to repair than a gasoline powered car according to Insurify.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Why though? Because we read those numbers. Full size model XSUV is 54, 59. It's a good go. Got it, go a little bit. Out of the 50 most popular cars in the United States, the top four most expensive to insure. What?
Starting point is 00:32:02 Did you know that? Tom, did you know that or no? I did not know. I'm you know that or no I did not I'm just reading this here this is before all this started the top four most expensive cars insure were Tesla's out of the 50 most popular cars in the u.s. the top four most popular to insure are Tesla's so premiums could go up if there are more claims for vandalism how would take a lot more than vandalism incidents to get to the point how I finish tonight right now the incidents
Starting point is 00:32:24 are sporadic and anecdotal with documented vandalism on Pacific Coast Northeast but drives on car insurance comp. Okay go back go back to the news Rob. Let's see what else we got KRXI Tesla vandalism and raised questions about insurance rates. That's how long ago 12 hours ago. Let's go on that to see if they have any kind of studies or rates that they're showing. Zoom in a little bit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Because you know we're getting a $500 every six months premium, and we're paying out of $20,000 on one of our two cars. We'll go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower to see. Just look for an okay, nothing here. Let's go to the next story. So economic finance a day ago.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Do you own a Tesla? Your insurance rate could spike as vandals target cars across the US. Go a little lower. Do you own a Tesla? Your insurance rate could spike as vandals target cars across the US. Go a little lower. Go a little lower on some of the Tesla owners. Go a little lower. Okay, what's that premium? Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:16 So vehicles are going to ensure with the Model 3, seeing the 30, okay, same thing as we read in the other one. Okay, so can you do me a favor? Can you type in on chat GBT, see if this will come up, how many reported Tesla, you know, what do you call it, vandalism stats have we seen? You know, is there a number, like police report in a certain sector? Like you remember they were stealing that one car in certain counties of LA and so the insurance specifically for that car went up only in that one county.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Do you guys remember the car on the guy that made a video on how to steal those cars? Yeah I remember. Which Hyundai and Kia, Alondra and Sonata and Soul and Forte were criticized by the American Insurance Institute because of the ease in which they can be broken in and stolen. That's what it was. And this guy made a video on TikTok on how to steal those cars. So Austin, Texas won. Nevada, Las Vegas. Multiple Tesla vehicles were set on fire.
Starting point is 00:34:14 There was another Tesla showroom. Salem to January, February, local Tesla stores, multiple attacks. Maltav cocktails. Boston, Massachusetts, seven Tesla charging stations were set on fire. Seattle, Washington, four Tesla Cybertrax red blaze, a 33-year-old man arrested, deliberately crashing. Okay, so it's not yet a massive number to make a difference, but it is definitely something
Starting point is 00:34:39 to be thinking about. Tom, your thoughts on the story. Tom Hanks Well, those, the Hyundai and Kia the Insurance Institute was saying hey these things are so easy to sell to us steal that what we're about to do is innocent middle-class Americans that are buying those because they think it's an economical car on gas and it's small and and all that they're about to find out that they're going to be more to insure so what they were saying is the long-term condition was about to lead to the increase in insurance. And we saw the guys you pointed out on YouTube saying
Starting point is 00:35:09 these are easy to steal and they Hyundai and Kia better do something about it. Boom. Now this is a short-term condition and so the question is and by the way here we go again you know if every one of the headlines that you see about Tesla or about Trump, the economy, look for the could and should, because everybody's in this could and should game. So if there's a long term condition here, I think they would raise the rates, but they got to get control of this. Pambandi is saying, oh, you want to do this?
Starting point is 00:35:41 I will label you a domestic terrorist. You don't want that. You don't want to light a car on fire and get labeled as a threat Has anybody yet gone arrested like and suffered real severe consequences? I remember I think there I think there has been one guy that the answer is yes so far and I haven't seen any Legislation come down, but Pam Bondi has said several times has she not Rob over the last like two weeks yes you will be charged with domestic terrorism you don't want that because that's a federal that's a federal felony well it is it is it is
Starting point is 00:36:12 terrorism because they're doing it for a political motive that's what it is it's all against Trump and I can't like this pisses me off beyond belief because and even Elon Musk has accused you guys know who's he's accusing guys is obviously the left our side doesn't do stupid shit like this okay sorry for my language we don't we don't do this okay they he's blamed George Soros and he's pointed at Reid Hoffman saying that they're funding these protests okay and then you have people on late night all these late night hosts Tim Walls Jasmine Crockett they're all dog-wisting they're all saying it without saying it and then when they get caught, Tim Walz is like,
Starting point is 00:36:48 no, no, I'm just joking. Republicans don't have a sense of humor. No, no. You know exactly what the hell they're doing. You know what you're doing. And then yesterday in the car, when I asked you, yeah, what are the Republicans going to do? I want to know what, I'm not saying be violent at all.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I'm not saying that at all. But are you guys just sitting on your hands? Like, I mean, and I wouldn't say go do anything violent, but it's not like, you know, Republicans are going out and damaging things that the left likes, like sex shops and you know, tampon dispensers and bathrooms. They're not, you know what I mean? Like we're not doing that. To Pat's point, I want to see Pam Bondi put her signature on a piece of paper and I want to see two of these people, because we've caught some of them get arrested in charge with federal felony
Starting point is 00:37:28 for the arsonist domestic terrorists guess what when you increase the penalty round things change by the way this is what AOC yesterday was approached by Fox News reporter asking about vandalism on Teslas and this was her response go for drop so upset when they see a Tesla in the parking lot. Yeah, I can't comment to that, you know, in terms of public sentiment. Do you think Democrats are to blame for why people are so triggered by this? No, absolutely not. Because what your rally is saying, not you particularly, but your colleague saying F Elon Musk and using other words, profane words to describe him,
Starting point is 00:38:04 does that rile people up, your your supporters to take action on their own? I don't know you know I think about I think about Republicans calling me a communist and Republicans saying that I hate this country. Yeah are they firebombing your house? Are they throwing malt off cocktails at your house? Look how uncomfortable she was with that. Look at her blink rate, look at her mannerisms. She was nervous and uncomfortable. She didn't want to answer that question as a congresswoman United States Congresswoman you take that moment say listen I condemn any type of violence that has happened against it but you
Starting point is 00:38:32 know what when you're out there calling the guy Hitler when you're calling people Hitler guys and this drives me crazy and it had like there has to be somebody to stop it's gonna be Pam. We're not attacking Tesla. We're attacking. Elon making threats that he's gonna be Pam. And we're not attacking Tesla. We're testing. Elon making threats that he's gonna be suing Bowman if they keep continuing talking like this. Adam thoughts. So are we talking about Tesla specifically?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Specifically Tesla insurance. Yeah. Okay. So you know, you know the phrase don't cut off your nose despite your face. Did you hear Tim Walls the other day get up on stage and basically root for Tesla stock to go down. Tesla's demise. And then I think it was Kevin O'Leary who pointed out, Hey guy, you're the governor
Starting point is 00:39:12 of Minnesota. Do you know that you guys have Tesla in your retirement fund portfolio? Millions of Minnesotans are relying on the stock market to go up. Tesla being a decent part of your portfolio. So what are you saying? Are you rooting for all your retirees, for all your constituents, for their portfolio to go down?
Starting point is 00:39:34 Walk me through the logic here. You know, so also, how many jobs does Elon Musk and Tesla create? Hundreds of thousands within America. Are you rooting for people to lose their jobs? Because what happens when a company starts losing money, they're going to start making cuts and people are going to start losing jobs. So all because of blind hatred for this one guy, Elon Musk, who was the darling of the green energy left not too long ago, just because he literally backed up Trump and helped
Starting point is 00:40:06 him win the election now you think that it's okay to not only root for his stock to go down, root for the company go down, root for retirement funds to go down, root for people to lose their jobs and then also totally be okay with vandalism this is ridiculous. And that's why... Which isn't against Musk it's against citizens private property exactly. then just a real quick and that's why on Tuesday when you're talking about Vinny the enemy That's the enemy Adam the people that are destroying bro people's lives. You're a family You're a Democrat you have a family and you have a cyber truck and then you have these psychos Throwing ball tough cocktails and she bullet and I've been seeing them pull up the cars with families in them, verbally attacking,
Starting point is 00:40:47 dude getting out of the vehicle to try to, that, that, you're the enemy. Period. Well I think what you're saying is those particular people. Yeah but it's the left, it's the left Adam. Come on man. The problem is 80 million people aren't your enemy. That's a whole nother discussion. I didn't say all of them are but guess what?
Starting point is 00:41:03 If your party is doing this, if your party is saying this guy is Hitler and this party is saying hey look at the stock is dropping and then the late night hosts that are all paid for, they're all on the same freaking group, they go hey don't, what was it, Kimmel Robbie? They're like hey don't vandalize Tesla, that's a dog whistle. Wink, wink. And you're a freaking enemy, period a clip up Rob pull that clip up I actually want to see that don't the don't yeah this one right here. Yeah. Yeah, let's see that Our co-president Elon Musk sent a SpaceX vehicle
Starting point is 00:41:37 To bring the astronauts back and when they land it he fired them immediately upon landing Stock is way down almost disastrously so look at this look at that yeah yeah yeah idiots vandalizing Tesla vehicles new Tesla vehicles please don't vandalize don't ever vandalize Tesla vehicles and so yeah okay wait a minute yeah wait a minute what does that mean to you? So... What is that?
Starting point is 00:42:08 No, no, but wait a minute. Is that legal to say that? I don't know. Cause that's innuendo. To say what? He's saying don't do it. Pausing, that pause, you know what that says? Do it.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Do it one more time, Rob. There are laws in America about inciting civil disobedient inciting riots now could you draw the line so clearly there that you could go back to the game Rob I don't know so new Tesla vehicles please don't vandalize don't ever vandalize Tesla vehicles and so funny funny and that was a pause to that deal that pause does go for it problem that Rob go to what's the other one that you have there was a Jamal Bowman and I have Tim Walz as well go to the Jamal Bowman one if you could sure that's not true and this shows again the American people do not trust Elon Musk, and Elon Musk is incompetent
Starting point is 00:43:09 in his position. And how do we know? Because they fired tens of thousands of people. It was challenging court. The court said the people have to go back and now the people are coming back. He's incompetent. He's a thief. He's a Nazi.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And people don't trust him. Let me just. Isn't this the guy that literally just got fired in New York because he's quote unquote incompetent and didn't do his job aka didn't get reelected. I find it so amazing how people who have done next to nothing in their life are criticizing someone who has done so much. Yeah, because society and for workers and for Americans and the world yet You feel like you can condemn someone because you have a different political opinion
Starting point is 00:43:53 It's very enraging and why I don't because because he supports a guy that loves this country and these Scumbags hate the country and this is Jamal Bowman the Democrat congressman that you said from New York that pulled a fire alarm In the Cannon House office building in September 2003 and was fine for money And it was like I never did it you guys are are saying yeah that I don't like that guy at all Yeah, Rob so so to me that that that You can't do that you can't Get up there and get people to rally against somebody to hurt a business or an individual. That can't be legal to do, let alone the late night show hoes that's got the main late night show.
Starting point is 00:44:33 It's, I don't know, I think the, I'm gonna go to the next story. I think the administration's gotta do something about this here when you're looking at these types of things being said. Let me get to the next story. NASA says Trump is responsible for stranded astronaut saga ending. It would have not happened.
Starting point is 00:44:50 It would have not happened. And guess who came and bailed these guys out? Now this is NASA saying it. NASA credits Trump for the return of the astronauts Sunita Williams and Barry Wilmore, who were stranded on the International Space Station for nine months instead of their planned eight days. They're going out there planning on being there for eight days. They're there for nine months due to issues with Boeing Starliner, with the spokeswoman
Starting point is 00:45:15 Bethany telling Fox News it would not have happened without President Trump's intervention and acting Administrator Janet Petro adding per President Trump's direction. Is this it Rob, the clip? Yes. Go for it, play the clip. ...Butch, Sunni and Nick all home after an extended stay in space and you are absolutely right. This was a huge win for the Trump administration and would not have happened without President Trump's intervention. Up next... Tom, thoughts? So let's let's unpack this. I'm going to unpack this really, really fast. NASA works with its counterpart in Russia to maintain their space station. People come up there and do experiments for a long time, then they come back.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Boeing was contracted by NASA to use their Starliner to take astronauts up, do some experiments, and bring them back. The Starliner was showing so many defects and faults that they couldn't certify it, and what they didn't want to have happen is these two astronauts get in it and then have it come back. And remember, we've had a space shuttle that broke up over Texas because of a flaw, and when it tried to re-enter it was terrible and we lost all those astronauts So Boeing said I want to bring this starliner back empty and we'll test it. It came back
Starting point is 00:46:31 Fortunately, it didn't burn up so they could have brought him back But Boeing kind of did the right thing saying we're not sure and we don't want to put human astronauts at risk Let's bring it back at that moment now. They're stuck and they're asking NASA What do we do about it and Boeing was saying well? We got to do a bunch of research and we got to fix Starliner before we could go up and get them and that is When during the Biden administration Elon said well, we're gonna be up in the area putting up satellites and stuff Maybe we'll just swing by and give your guys a ride home I'm not being joking there that literally was the message is like hey, we we got missions all the time. We can do this and bring them back. And they said, no, there's
Starting point is 00:47:08 plenty of resources, translation, food, water, and, you know, carbon dioxide filters and conversion to oxygen, all those things that are on the space station. Everything's okay. They've got enough months go by months go by. but what was going on right there? The Biden administration did not want to give Elon Musk the win. And so the Biden administration just said, well, if there's enough resource, and their excuse was, there's plenty of resources up there, they can stay up there. However, we've now know that long, long, long term in zero gravity, your body deteriorates, your muscles atrophy. And so, you know, after so many months, we've been regularly, us Russians and Chinese, others
Starting point is 00:47:51 that are on the international space station, bring the people back. And they didn't. And the Biden administration did not want to give. Elon Musk the win. And so one of the first things that happens after the inauguration is they're like, start planning now to bring our American astronauts that all the scientists and health experts from astronauts in space have said,
Starting point is 00:48:15 you need to bring them back down into gravity and we need to take care of them. They've been up there a hell of a long time. That's what happened. And so guess what? Trump calls Elon, Elon did what he said he could have done under the Biden administration. And what's annoying to me, Pat, is that the Biden administration didn't do the right thing for our own astronauts because they didn't
Starting point is 00:48:35 want to give the win to Elon Musk during the election. There you go. Out of thoughts. So here's a problem that I'm noticing in America, and it's not anything new. It's the inability to appreciate the other side when they do something good. Both sides do this. It's the inability to say, Hey man, you know what? I don't agree with you, but great job on this. It's the inability to basically recognize that both sides do good and bad things. So instead of rooting against the other team, here's a simple suggestion. Just root for America, root for good things to happen to America. You want the economy to do good, you want the border to maybe be closed down, you want good things to happen.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Do you remember in Congress during the speech that Trump gave? They said, Hey, guys, a round of applause for this kid that just beat cancer. And the Democrats sat there like, guys, this isn't a bipartisan issue. The kid beat cancer. Stand up and applause and shut your mouth. Be an American. So it's the people that are rooting for Elon Musk's Tesla's to be ruined. It's the people who are rooting this kid right here. It's the people who are rooting for Elon Musk's Tesla's to be ruined. It's the people who are rooting this kid right here. It's the people who are rooting for the economy go down. Newsflash, if the economy goes down, you're going to suffer also.
Starting point is 00:49:53 So it's the definition of cutting your off your nose despite your face. Root for America. When the other team does something good, appreciate it. And then fight the fight that you want to win. But also when the other team does something well congratulate them that's a true American. Let me ask you a question Adam and I'm being genuinely inquisitive do you think if the roles were reversed on this night on the night when Trump did this with this freaking amazing kid that was honored as a freaking Secret
Starting point is 00:50:19 Service member if if which I don't think the left would ever bring I don't think they do this type of stuff but you think the Republicans would have stand stood up and clapped for that kid I would hope so but I've seen ugliness on both sides but I don't think that side is that evil as I've said that not to stand like not one person on that side stood up and clapped for this kid or even Lake and Riley's family or any of that, okay? And it's like, it drives me crazy. And then when you're saying, Adam, the other side, when the other side does something good, we should celebrate it and we should clap. What has the other side done that's good?
Starting point is 00:50:56 I'm genuinely being like this guy. What did they do just in the past four years that would have made us, because you know I would have done, Adam, if they did something good, I would have been like, yo, wow, hats off. I can't think of anything, everything that they did was to try to destroy this freaking country.
Starting point is 00:51:12 All of them, okay? And when you talk about the Elon story, Tom, it's insane that these two people were literally left to die because the other side, the Biden administration, all these people, they hate for Elon because he supported Donald Trump. And I'm telling you guys right now, and people keep saying,
Starting point is 00:51:31 Elon's the richest man in the world. No, he's not. There's Saudi guys, there's people that are out there that we don't even know that are on. Elon Musk is the richest man in the world. Saudi Aramco is a true trillion dollar market cap company. That's a country, that's a company. Elon Musk is the richest person. Saudi Aramco is a true trillion dollar market cap company. That's a country. That's a company.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Elon Musk is the richest person. Vladimir Putin's how rich, do you think? He owns Russia. I would beg to differ, the richest man in the world, but what my point is, choose your enemies wisely, Pat. That's the worst enemy that they could have picked, is Elon Musk. Because they're starting a freaking fight with a guy that's not going to stop. So good luck.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And I think we have to be fair about something. You just said Biden left them to die. I don't think he left them to die. I think that's a little strong. But they were supposed to be up there for eight days. They were up there for nine months. Okay, that to me is something horrible. But it was on the International Space Station.
Starting point is 00:52:18 They had water, they had food, the resources up there. But what happened to their bodies? Look at her. Look, Tom, to me that, you're leaving me to die, bro. Her chin started protruding, because she has no freaking gravity. That's almost as bad as what happened to Rosie O'Donnell after she got TDS in your video the other day.
Starting point is 00:52:34 But that's, come on, you're leaving me stranded. God forbid something bad happens to me. Nine months they were up there, Tom. I don't know this lady. I have no idea who she is. But it's tough to act when you're in a bad mood or good mood. Or spirits. I don't know who this person is but she seems like she's... Because when you're there eight days, imagine how claustrophobic, if you're claustrophobic.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I am. Then imagine if you're going somewhere, you're stuck in the elevator for seven seconds, you're going from floor two to six. And then all of a sudden, one time we're looking at this property in Miami. You guys, you're mad? No, no, we're going and looking at this property in Miami. The lady who is the salesperson selling us the property, we get in the elevator, Dylan's with me,
Starting point is 00:53:23 Senna's with me, Jen's with me, and our events crew. We're in the elevator, the elevator gets stuck. Guess who's panicking? Her? The lady working at the place. She starts hyperventilating. Dylan starts getting nervous. There's a couple to our right that are there because they're having a good time and they
Starting point is 00:53:42 love the podcast. Senna's looking at mom, what's going on So I got to pick them up, but she is full Losing her mind right and that was for ten minutes like five minutes Imagine guess what what you're gonna be here for nine months With one person that you don't you don't really know them, but that's gonna be your roommate. Or nine. I know how much you love heights. So if you were stuck up there in space,
Starting point is 00:54:11 I mean, did you think you would lose? Heights don't bother me, man. I'll go to the edge of the balcony and look down at the beautiful view of Miami and enjoy skydiving. Me and Vinnie, we do it left and right. That's our specialty, for sure. I look forward to doing that.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Okay, so let's see what we got here. This next one here, Trump administration ends taxpayer funded housing program for illegals, okay? Why we had it in the first place, who the hell knows? So Trump's team led by HUD secretary Scott Turner and DHS secretary Kristi Noem axed housing aid for illegal aliens.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Rob, is this a video? Yes. Go for it. Play the video. Hi, this is Scott Turner. I'm here today with my dear friend and colleague, Secretary Kristi Noem. And we're here, signing the partnership to ensure that the wasteful misappropriations that have been going to assist illegal aliens in our country will no longer go to assist
Starting point is 00:55:01 them, but instead to assist the American people, in particular, as it pertains to housing. We have a housing affordability crisis in our country, and so today we are ensuring that American taxpayer dollars are used to assist the American people. Unfortunately, under the Biden administration, they prioritized illegal aliens over American families, and so this memorandum is going to be a partnership that we will form to make sure that these housing programs are going to only people who deserve it,
Starting point is 00:55:32 people who are in this country that need assistance, that want a better life for their families. So thank you for being here today. This is a wonderful partnership between departments to do what we can to make sure we follow through on President Trump's promise to the American people. So with that I will sign for the Department of Homeland Security. Good. Awesome Rob, let me read this to you. So a 2023 study by the Center for
Starting point is 00:55:59 Immigration Studies found nearly 60% of households headed by illegal aliens are on at least one major form of taxpayer-funded welfare. Tom, thoughts on this? How big is this? This is very, very big because believe it or not, these programs, what we don't see is who they're actually helping. There are a lot of veterans that are helped by these programs. There are a lot of American citizens are helped by these programs. There are a lot of American citizens that, like in Western North Carolina, when things
Starting point is 00:56:28 happen that get help. It's not just FEMA. FEMA can help you rebuild your house, but there's also programs in there that are trying to help people who need it. And if we're taking off the supplemental voter program, I'm sorry, the illegal aliens, then I think that's a good thing. The money gets routed back to you know Americans who do it and I'll say something else here Christy gnome
Starting point is 00:56:51 Give her a report card over the first 60 days here. It's pretty strong You know redirecting the Coast Guard into the Gulf of America Interest and a huge drug bust in Fort Lauderdale Christy gnome is and the huge drug bust in Fort Lauderdale. Kristi Noem is really, to me, guess what? A governor. And governors, we have 51 CEOs in America. They're governors and the president.
Starting point is 00:57:15 And I feel like she's been acting as a really good, acting very well and has a great report card for me, but I love to see this because Americans who live here and pay taxes and Find themselves at the crossroads in life that get support from a program like this This is what the program is about not to say hey keep coming across keep coming across. I got a place for you Here's your government cheese. Here's your free cell phone Here's all these things we give you to get the Immigrants on their feet when you've got loss of manufacturing jobs And you know hurricanes that were in Western
Starting point is 00:57:48 North Carolina and all these places where real Americans needed the support. Yeah, thank you Scott Turner Thank you, Christine Ohm Oh and just going off of this one that she like the fact that We have to have the director of Homeland Security say, we're not gonna let your money go to illegals that are not supposed, that don't belong in the country is absurd. Did you see this video? By the way, she was at the border.
Starting point is 00:58:12 She's everywhere. Compare her to Alejandro Mayorkas. She's at the El Salvador, the prison. Remember the giant MS-13 roundup, El Salvador prison? She's there saying, if you want to mess with us, you're going to be down here right behind me. With a bunch of guys? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Here at CCOT today and visiting this facility. And first of all, I want to thank El Salvador and their president for their partnership with the United States of America to bring our terrorists here and to incarcerate them and have consequences for the violence that they have perpetuated in our communities. I also want everybody to know if you come to our country illegally, this is one of the
Starting point is 00:58:49 consequences you could face. First of all, do not come to our country illegally. You will be removed and you will be prosecuted. But know that this facility is one of the tools in our toolkit that we will use if you commit crimes against the American people. How gangsterish. But by the way, all those guys, that is some scary, all those guys are just looking at the back of their heads like-
Starting point is 00:59:08 You don't see the guys off to the side with the machine guns. Yeah, of course. Oh, that's crazy. These guys are pretty, all those kindergartners were very quiet standing in line. Look at that. But what a difference of one side that's like, no, open the border, let everybody come in. You have to pay for all these people to live. Give them credit cards.
Starting point is 00:59:24 When they punch New York police officers in the face, they walk out of jail the next day, they raise their middle fingers. What a freaking difference from four years to this year. And what was the goal? What was the goal of Alejandro Mayorkas? What is the goal of leaving the border wide open? The invasion that Trump said to Jim Acosta when he's like, it's an invasion, Jim Acosta like, no, it's just a migrant.
Starting point is 00:59:44 No, they're just walking here and yeah yeah okay this is real leadership and she's a freaking boss and I'm actually I'm I'm ecstatic that we have her in Adam I don't know guys here I'm really disappointed in Trump and Kristi no I'm here how dare you prioritize citizens of America over the illegal. How dare you? How dare you stop paying rent for illegals? How dare you stop giving credit cards to illegals and debit cards? How dare you stop housing illegals and prioritizing newcomers to America over our citizens? People from all over the world, we all know this, Finney, come before
Starting point is 01:00:24 our citizens. Globalism is coming to America and how dare Americans, people from all over the world, we all know this, Finney, come before our citizens. Of course, of course. Globalism is coming to America, and how dare Trump stop that? Unbelievable. And he puts this beautiful woman named Kristi Noem to put lipstick on a pig of this open border drama that's going on here. We all know we need people pouring through the border.
Starting point is 01:00:41 We all know this. Trump, how dare you put America first? Do better, we all know this Trump. How dare you? Put America first do better Donald Trump do better They didn't get that message let's go well, you know that there's the welfare state that we've been very critical on yeah that I think expanded under LBJ Here's a new term the illegal welfare state Yeah, the welfare state has been out of control whether it's food stamps or whether it's housing. It encourages people to have children because you get you know rewards for basically you always talked about the get that check get that check save that money. Now it's the illegal welfare state where you don't even need to be a citizen to be taken care of. By the way she
Starting point is 01:01:21 continues. Kristi Noem reveals plan to eliminate FEMA., do you have that one? I do. So imagine how much problems we've had with FEMA the last few years, right? She announced elimination at Trump's Cabinet meeting and she boasted we are in a month of March, the last couple weeks, is this the one, Rob? Yes. Go for it. I want to thank the Secretary of Defense and the Navy for all of their help and partnership too. We do operations together because their, obviously, Navy warships are in certain regions, but our cutters are faster and can work together in a partnership that's securing America. And we're going to eliminate FEMA.
Starting point is 01:01:58 So we've got a lot to do, but it's all good and we're working hard and we're going to make sure that we're continuing to do exactly what you promised. In a month of March last couple weeks increased our deportations by 50% we have broken historic records and the amount of drug interdict inter how do you pronounce that right? Interdiction, seizures. Interdictions that have been brought in. She plans to visit El Salvador, Colombia, Mexico to boost deportations. Nome told CNN in February I would say yes, get rid of FEMA the way it exists today, calling it a bureaucracy that's picking and choosing winners.
Starting point is 01:02:31 She wants funds for disasters like Hurricane Helen to go through local officials. Instead, she noted the Coast Guard shift saying we've repositioned the fleet to go after the fentanyl crisis and go after the southern border and secure it. Tom, thoughts? So here she is again. So what she said is headlines. Oh, she wants to get rid of FEMA and FEMA is there to rescue you when the hurricane
Starting point is 01:02:54 comes. No. Quote, I would say yes, get rid of FEMA the way it exists today. It's the same statement that they made about the Department of Education. The Department of Education wasn't helping K-12 schools. Test scores weren't going up and big grants were being given by the Department of Education to Ivy League schools. How does that help K-12? That doesn't. It's been redirected. FEMA, look at all the stories when Hurricane Helene happened in western North Carolina that I've
Starting point is 01:03:26 mentioned that area like three times today. What happened? We had stories of people saying independent groups, church groups that had actually chartered helicopters were not allowed to do certain things. FEMA's jurisdiction here and we can't have extra aircraft in the air. We got to wait for that. Remember all that? Vinnie, remember that? Of course. It says FEMA is jurisdiction here and we can't have extra aircraft in the air. We gotta wait for that. Remember all that? Vinny, remember that?
Starting point is 01:03:47 Of course. It says FEMA is here. Well, they were doing a terrible job. Yup. They were doing a terrible job. And so the governor's, she's saying just like, hey, let's send from the Department of Education, let's send the grants for autism support and all these things to the states. Here's your grant to go do good things
Starting point is 01:04:06 to enhance what you're already doing in education. What she's saying, hey look, when you're overrun by a disaster, we want to send the relief to the local officials, the governor and the first responders who can see what everything has happened, not wait for FEMA people to come parachuting in and say, well, I'm in charge here and I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 01:04:31 No, she's like, let's get the resources there. I love this move because you're going to see a whole bunch of bureaucracy squeezed out of Washington, DC. And what's left is the fund the way it should be because hurricanes happen. Tornadoes happen in Oklahoma, and hurricanes happen in Florida, earthquakes and wildfires happen in California, especially if you irresponsibly manage your state and you leave all the tinder out there to burn. And why shouldn't FEMA send grants to help the states?
Starting point is 01:04:58 Who would be against this? Who would be against this? Who would be frightened of this taking place? I would say the Washington bureaucrats that have jobs, number one, and all the command and control Democrats who are scared of strong governors. Because remember, they don't want strong governors. They want the Department of Education to control the outcome. They want all of the federal programs to be in control. That is
Starting point is 01:05:25 a tenet of socialism. They don't want the governors to be making decisions for their state that the governors was elected to do. They want to be controlling those governors from Washington. The bureaucrats at the top of this, the myorcheses, they wouldn't want any of this. They would say, no, no, no, we're in charge here. We're in charge here. Adam. I just think it's, there's a little play on words, I think, where you have the Republicans, like Kristi Noem, that planning to eliminate FEMA, where you have the Democratic Party that it's looking to eliminate females. So whether it's the trans men in women's sports, whether it's the ridiculous stories you hear about tampons in boys bathrooms,
Starting point is 01:06:06 whether it's people like Dylan Mulvaney taking legitimate sponsorships away from women, whether it's literal trans women winning beauty contests, whether it's in Nevada, you also have big balloon sized women in Alabama winning beauty contest. Let's just get back to normal and make women great again. And just to piggyback on FEMA Tom, which I am all for them because it's been politicized. You remember the hurricanes that happened in Florida and the FEMA staffers that were told her team through that text to avoid helping Trump supporter houses that had Trump supporting stuff on the flag. Even more reason that federal partisan bureaucrats should not be calling that shot. Bingo. That's FEMA for you.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Don't help the Trump houses. Go help everybody else. Okay. Instead, Governor DeSantis, what else do you need? I see you're building the bridge back to the island faster than we could. What else do you need, sir? Well, you Well, you know you talk about accountability a lot if someone does that they should be fired I think that person did get fired The person who was going around you would hope so because well because she didn't think she blamed it on everybody else She blamed it up the leadership. That's like that's same thing with the FBI like you can't obviously root out everybody But when it comes to your life, you're both right. She consequences happen, but it was happening in the first place. She didn't get fired.
Starting point is 01:07:28 She on January 20th of 2025 when the Biden administration left and the Trump administration took over she stepped down, but she was not fired for that. Okay, and she was moments later. What would have happened? She was the head of FEMA. She knows what would happen. She knows what would happen.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Okay. All right. So let me get this next story here. Next story is the Snow White, Snow White, what do you call it? Producer's son says Rachel Zegler hurt the film's box office with her actions in since-deleted comment. This is the exchange.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Somebody at the top says, oh, by the way, who's the first comment, Rob? I couldn't see it, it's cut off, so I'm not sure. Your dad flew to New York City to reprimand a young actress? Any word on this? Because that's creepy as hell and uncalled for. People have the right to free speech. No?
Starting point is 01:08:15 Shame on your father, to the guy responsible. You really want to do this? Yeah, my dad, the producer of enormous piece of Disney IP with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line, had to leave his family to fly across the country to reprimand his 20-year-old employee for dragging her personal politics into the middle of promoting the movie for which she signed a multi-million dollar contract to get paid and do publicity for. This is called adult responsibility and accountability. And her actions clearly hurt the film's box office. Free speech does not mean you're allowed to say whatever you want in your private employment
Starting point is 01:08:47 without repercussions. Tens of thousands of people worked on that film and she hijacked the conversation for her own immature desires at the risk of all the colleagues and crew, blue collar workers who depend on that movie to be successful. Narcissism is not something to be coddled and encouraged. Tom. Thank you, Jonah Platt. Oh my gosh, he's absolutely right. You know, the first person, your dad flew to New York to reprimand a young actress.
Starting point is 01:09:16 No, he flew to New York to reprimand an employee or a contractor who was employed on the film. And, oh, she's exercising freedom of speech. Well, guess what? or a contractor who was employed on the film and Oh, she's exercising freedom of speech well guess what if if somebody walks into Pat's office and Says I think you're a piece of crap and you don't run the company very well and says, okay Well, look, I'm sorry. You don't want to work here anymore and we've set that up right now. Goodbye You get your wish go to go take a summer. You don't have freedom of speech. Like that freedom of speech is Pat respecting or any leader respecting, hey I like the Yankees, I like Boston and you know I disagree with this, I disagree with that, I'll be voting this way and you
Starting point is 01:09:58 can have that in your persona but when you come out and the freedom of speech was to condemn the very thing that you're paid to build Are you kidding me that someone I'm more shocked by the the the post that came before Than the one that came after because the one that came before is someone who obviously has no clue Literally no clue to conclude that and I love plaids for saying you really want to do this I love his first thing you really want to do that. I love that Rob do me a favor go to IMDB and Just happen Snow White IMDB. Okay, watch this here folks go to Snow White
Starting point is 01:10:40 Look at look at the look at the reviews Was that no look at how many reviews there is. Zoom in if you could Rob. Does it show you or no? 562 user reviews. No, that's not the one Rob. It's if you go, there's 163,000 reviews Rob. 163,000 reviews.
Starting point is 01:10:58 I just texted it to you. To the top right maybe Rob? Yeah, right there. Right there, right there. Zoom in right there. Zoom in right there, that's it. 163,000 rating of which it got 1.6, not out of five. Like, you know, sometimes you go to McDonald's, it's 1.6 out of five?
Starting point is 01:11:14 1.6 out of 10. How bad is that? You took a test, you got a 16 on it. It's like, how do you get a 16 on it. It's like, how do you get a 16? What are the most rated movies on IMDb? What are the worst rated movies on IMDb? Probably Ishtar or something like that, going back. Bottom line, what is it?
Starting point is 01:11:44 I mean, I'm going through some of these lists here a hundred and sixty something thousand reviews maybe it hasn't updated yet what a 1.6 stars absolutely embarrassing for somebody did you see the clip of her at the theater watching it by herself have you seen that one or no oh I don't know if you saw that I think I thought a little yeah brief little. Yeah. What are your thoughts on this? Well, I think there's a common theme here. I think the Democratic Party and Disney are attached at the hip. So I think there's a common thread with approval ratings and the stock price
Starting point is 01:12:17 of what's happened with the Democratic Party and with Disney. You know, the famous phrase go woke, go broke right now. Disney, their big blockbuster movie has plummeted, much like the Democratic approval ratings that reached I think an all-time low at what 27%. So, you know, they say that numbers talk BS walks, words talk, numbers scream, people are screaming, Disney, get it together. Who is the Disney's customer? You talk about this all the time, Pat. It's families and its parents who are paying for their kids to go to movies or go to theme
Starting point is 01:12:52 parks or buy products. And you have parents looking at Disney being like, what are you doing guys? This is supposed to be a place where magic happens. And all you're doing is indoctrinating kids. And you're having this person be the poster child of the Democratic Party. She is basically the AOC of Disney and if you want to or the Jasmine Crockett of Disney, I know we want to talk about her today, but if you want to look at why the Democratic Party has reached all-time lows, look no further than what Disney is doing with
Starting point is 01:13:22 their woke DEI feminist agenda. I want you to watch this here Rob, play that clip that you had real quick and then I'm going to show you what Bob Iger said about the movie. Go for it. With the Fizz loyalty program you get rewarded just for having a mobile plan. You know for texting and stuff and if you're not getting rewards like extra data and dollars off with your mobile plan you're not with Fizz. Switch today conditions apply details at Fizz.ca That's her friend screaming. Wow. And it's probably nobody was in there. Can you go to the yeah that's that's very so this is Bob Iger. Disney's Bob Iger says their mission is to entertain,
Starting point is 01:14:06 not send messaging as Snow White sales compete for worst performing live action Disney adaptation ever. Go a little bit lower to see if there's any other quotes by him. Is it just the data that we've already read? The 40, okay, go back up. What was it, 67 million?
Starting point is 01:14:22 So go a little bit lower, Rob, if you could. Oh, right there, right there, there you go. Disney's remaining numbers, double 46, 67 million. 56 million, Stonewall Heights Huntsman. Go a little bit lower to see what are the numbers we see. Critics have been kind, giving the film a dismal 44% on Rotten Tomatoes, but the audience score's
Starting point is 01:14:38 small, forgive them, 74%. Ron's going to go Mustafa, Lion King. Go a little bit lower. Bob Iker, we need to be entertaining. Hypervigil roller, this isn't the first time Disney has scrutiny. I remember Billionaire Mark Zimbron said, infusing messaging is not what we're up to, Iger said.
Starting point is 01:14:56 We need to be entertaining. His comments were likely aimed at critics like Peltz, who accused Disney of leaning too far into woke storytelling at the expense of financial performance. And by the way, do you know what Disney's stock was, what number it reached? If you go to Disney stock. It was almost at like, 190 in 2020.
Starting point is 01:15:16 You just go to five years. Just go to five years. So right there, go to 197. The market cap at that time was roughly a 400 billion dollar company. Give or take a 380 billion dollar company, 370 billion dollar company. You know what it is today? 181 billion dollar company. They've lost 200 billion the last four years. 200 billion dollars in the last four years. I mean I'm not surprised. 200 billion. And by the way, 200 billion. Yeah and four years I'm not surprised 200 billion and by the 200 billion
Starting point is 01:15:45 Yeah, and they have solid PE ratios 32 point Tom how good of a PE ratio is 32.66. That's still pretty strong That's pretty strong. So meaning they could Room to fall. Yeah a lot of room to fall. So this if this was a 20x PE ratio You're looking at a hundred billion dollar company. So I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen here, but sometimes when you're trying to make a move and make changes in an organization, the way Trump does it, Trump came in and he
Starting point is 01:16:18 took the biggest company in the world and he made immediate changes in 60 days. Iger needs to be inspired a little bit by Trump to come in and make immediate changes. Step down, bring somebody else to make immediate changes. They're using the five-year method. Well, in the movie business, it takes a long time to do this. Nothing takes longer than government. Nothing. So if a president can come in and move things within 60 days, Bob, you can come and move things as well.
Starting point is 01:16:49 But you're moving super slow and one guy's making you look bad and it's a different executive of the biggest company in the world. That's Trump. Tom? Well, if this keeps up, they're going to have to start cutting talent at ESPN. They're going to possibly put ESPN up for sale. They're going to cut programming. Oh, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:17:04 They already did that. Checking notes for sale. They're gonna cut programming it. Oh, wait a minute I just already did that check on checking notes. Yeah, they're already doing that. Let's go and it's not helping No, it's not. Let's go to next door here next door here Vinny. What's going on with this judge? Tell us about this judge. All right. Well just for everybody that's not following along you guys are knowing, you know but the P heads HECSF and His name is judge Boasberg. He's the activist judge. Can you show his picture so people can see it? Yeah, and again, and I'm not making fun of the look, Tom.
Starting point is 01:17:31 I'm just saying they all have that, what's the guy from Brazil, the judge that just, he has that, they just have that. Alexandre de Moraes, he looks funny. Guys, when you're not happy and you just have this hate in your heart and you're activist, this is what happens. So this is Judge Boesberg, the same guy who intentionally delayed-
Starting point is 01:17:50 It's a terrible word if he was Armenian, but go ahead, keep going. Yeah, no, no, keep going. 1000%. But guys, and again, I just connect these dots that everybody else could do if you just do a little bit of research. He's the same guy who intentionally delayed Hillary's email so voters wouldn't find out the truth before the 2016 elections.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Weird. He's the same guy who blocked Trump from deporting violent, illegal gang members out of the United States. Now, he just so happens to be the one presiding over the Signal Chat League case with Pete Hexeth. Okay? And it's not, to me, it's like, haven't we learned the lesson? Like, it's not justice it's not to me. It's like haven't we learned the lesson like it's not justice
Starting point is 01:18:25 It's controlled up opposition the whole story to me Pat stinks because now we're finding out with all this Stuff people that were involved and there there's really no explanation of how a reporter from the Atlantic got into this chat And I'm not being that guy But I'm just I'm just stating facts where everybody's confused that they really don't know even Mike Waltz. Rob is that the clip where Mike Waltz is kind of talking about it? Yes. Can you please play that? Success. So they want to focus on this. It's embarrassing. Yes. We're going to get to the bottom of it. We have I just talked to Elon on the way here. We've got the best technical minds looking at how this happened. Weird. But I can tell you, I can tell you for 100%, I don't know this guy. I know him by his horrible reputation and he really is the bottom scum of journalists.
Starting point is 01:19:13 And I know him in the sense that he hates the president, but I don't text him. He wasn't on my phone and we're going to figure out how this happened. So you don't know what staffer is responsible for this right now? Well, look, a staffer wasn't responsible and look I take full responsibility I built the I built the group to make my job is to make sure everything's coordinated. But how does that execute? I mean I don't mean to be pedantic here but how did the number have you ever had have you ever had somebody's contact that shows their name and then you have an and then you have somebody else's number there? Oh I never make those mistakes.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Right you've got somebody else's number on someone else's contact. So of course I didn't see the loser in the group. It looked like someone else. Now whether he did it deliberately or it happened in some other technical mean is something we're trying to figure out. Hold on, can we just say something too Adam? Do you guys remember? Hold on, do you remember when Tucker Carlson went to Russia and he sat on a podcast, I
Starting point is 01:20:03 think it was with the Nelt Boys, and he said unequivocally, he goes, somebody hacked into my signal and they did stuff to my signal. So what I'm saying is until we know all the facts, which everybody like you, Adam, I'm going off of your words, everyone wants to just jump on everything, until we know all the facts of how something like that could happen,
Starting point is 01:20:21 let's not jump to it. Number one, was the mission accomplished? Did we kill the people that were trying to go and attack and do it? Yes, mission complete. And the stuff that was in the text wasn't classified information that hurt national security because all I keep hearing is national security. Nobody gave a damn about national security for the past four years when terrorists have come over.
Starting point is 01:20:41 When you have literally terrorists looking in front of the camera going, soon you will know my name. Soon you will, nobody better than I. Now because of a text leak which we haven't found out what the hell the answer is, now everybody's worried about national security. Let's wait and see what happens, but I believe them. Vinny, I love you. Why do you sound so angry about this? Because, Adam, you see this shirt?
Starting point is 01:20:59 Everybody see that? But why is the, you're always angry, but what is this? I'm always angry, I'm getting tired. Why is this story angering you so much? Because it's just weird that this judge is involved and that the left, this is just something that the left is jumping on so hard. They're having meetings. They're having hearings. And it's like, listen, if they made a mistake, good, admit it. They've admitted it. They're moving on. But until we find out how Adam, how does an Atlantic, a guy that they all despise, how do he jump into this text? How? So why?
Starting point is 01:21:26 That's the question I want to find out. I get this as a trending story, you know, and Pat, you always talk about signal versus noise. I'm just going to speculate for a second. Go ahead. You know how many people you meet at a business conference at an event at the vault or whatever, and you get an exchange phone numbers and you never speak to them again ever and they're in your phone and then you're putting a text message together and
Starting point is 01:21:50 let's say I want to put Tom and accidentally put Tomas that I met at a different thing, maybe the Latino Tom, Marengue Tom and then I'm putting a group text message together and I have 10 people in there and I accidentally put the one wrong guy. Okay, let's just chalk this up to most likely he added the wrong person. Who's the guy he added? Jeff Goldblum or whoever from Jurassic Park, whoever the hell it was, he added the wrong guy. Just be like, yo, my bad.
Starting point is 01:22:20 I screwed up. I'll freaking do better next time. Well he did it. He goes, it falls on me. So just own up to it. You put the wrong person in the group chat. Maybe. Move on. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:22:29 What do you mean? Let them find out. That's so much more of a simpler explanation that you're putting a group chat together. You put the wrong person in. The baby were hacked and they put the Atlantic guy in there and he was undercover. And what happens was you all know when you put the wrong phone cat they're going to... It's like, what what are you talking about dude? You screwed up take ownership It's not that big of a deal move on and that's the most likely what happened. Well, we'll wait and see Well
Starting point is 01:22:57 First of all, this is a big mistake and second of all Mike waltz has said, you know, the buck stops with me. It's my organization. We're looking at how it happened. And you know, I'm responsible. And so I like the fact that Walz has said, hey, I'm responsible. If this was the other way around, you know, the Republicans would be hammering this too.
Starting point is 01:23:19 So one side is giving the other side a big nail sticking up and the other side is just hammering on that nail and that's what's going on. Now what am I happy about? Not one person has said that the mission was compromised, US servicemen were shot down or something horrible. I would feel differently about it. Actually no, I feel the same way but I am relieved to hear that apparently we didn't lose anybody and nothing leaked to the Houthis that they got any
Starting point is 01:23:51 Aircraft missile going anything that the guys we wanted to get we got So mission accomplished allegedly what they're saying just like George Bush thought on that big battleship and said mission accomplished Well, that was a little bit different. Now we know there's a little bit of marketing there to call it the 100-hour war and things like that. So there was a little bit of spin there. Do you guys know who the chair of the board of Signal is? Anybody?
Starting point is 01:24:16 Adam? Tell us. Her name is Catherine Marr, like Bill Marr. She's a leftist NPR CEO. She's on the, what are the odds of that? Look at who's, and she's been on X, she's had some crazy speeches before, so, you know, it's kind of weird that everybody's kind of connected. Go ahead, Ralph.
Starting point is 01:24:32 It's very interesting that she comes up, because she was just in front of Congress yesterday, where she was questioned about wanting reparations in financial form and tweeting about that. Here's what she had to say. She got grilled pretty good. Can't hear her, Bob. I have never heard about that here's what she had to say. She got grilled pretty good. I have never said that sir. Do you think the white people should pay reparations? I have never said that sir. Yes you did. You said it in January of 2020. You tweeted, yes the north, yes all of us, yes America, yes our original collective sin and unpaid debt, yes repar reparations. Yes, on this day. I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.
Starting point is 01:25:09 What kind of reparations was it a reference to? I think it was just a reference to the idea that we all owe much to the people who came before us. That's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted. So, and remember all those connections that you're talking about? So one person could be like, well, she's in charge like It was a bad here. That was horrible. She's she's there. The judge has been involved with all these other things He's obviously a Democrat and he's and it's all of a sudden boom this early. They found it. So I don't know Like I said, what's can I give him? And I'll sum it up and I'll let you guys segue the other side of it if you want but walls took responsibility
Starting point is 01:25:43 Good. It happened in the first place very, very bad. None of our servicemen were compromised. Very good. Mission was accomplished. Good. And now both sides are going to get a hammer on it. I'm really focused on the men and women that were in arms that the mission wasn't compromised and somehow we lost people because it leaked.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Well, thank goodness. Rob, I'd sent you, the Wall Street Journal did a great job of basically kind of laying out the facts of this story. Pete Hegseth, who's under fire right now because he's the Secretary of Defense. They came and he came out and made a statement and he basically was like, listen, there was nothing inappropriate on there. There was nothing leaked. There was no mission details.
Starting point is 01:26:23 There was nothing on there. And then Rob, you get the text I sent you. I did. It's taken a while to download the photos. I'm looking. But, do you want me to just send this to you in Slack? And while you're doing that, do you guys think it's good? I'm being genuine. Do you think it's smart, if you're the reporter, to leak every single, like, you should go to the FBI, you should go to the Department of Homeland Security and say, hey, listen, this was leaked. I'm not trying to compromise. You guys need to fix this of Homeland Security and say hey listen The I this was leaked I'm not trying to compromise this is you guys need to fix this instead of making it obviously Report it later after the math what if you're hard that part you have to know that even when WikiLeaks was leaking stuff chromo back in the days was like this is not the right thing to do
Starting point is 01:27:01 You shouldn't you should drop it off to the government and all that other stuff So that argument is made on both sides. And then the conservatives were happy that WikiLeaks leaked some of the information on what happened with some of the emails. So again, this is both, what's this here, Rob? This is- So this is the text that we're actually,
Starting point is 01:27:18 that we're talking about, this chat. So Rob, if you wanna go back to the one that's highlighted. Is this the one? There's one that's highlighted, um, Rob, if you want to go back to the one that's highlighted, is this the one? Uh, there's one that's highlighted, Rob. Yeah. These are the actual plans. They said first strike package. I was going to be at 1215 Eastern, uh, at 1345 as a trigger based F 18 first strike windows, windows starts. These looks pretty damn specific to me. At 4.15, strike drones on target. This is when the first bombs will definitely drop. Also, C-based Tomahawk. This looks pretty damn specific.
Starting point is 01:27:58 And it's also called, you notice the name of the group chat? It's called the Huthy PC Small Group. Go to Hillary Clinton's Twitter account. I can't believe I'm saying that. I can't believe that came out of your mouth. Go to Hillary Clinton's Twitter account. If you go there and zoom into, not this one, the one before this. Right there. She says, never thought I'd be retweeting Pierce Morgan, but he's right if you don't consider This is to be classified info about the imminent war plans
Starting point is 01:28:29 It may be that you're too partisan to recognize the truth when it slaps you around Your tribal chops if this happened on Biden's watch Republicans would have rightly gone berserk and it shows the same exact thing So look you can't have this happen Period you have to be very careful. You know, when we have an employee that's not with us anymore, they're added in a group text, and that is already something where it's like,
Starting point is 01:28:54 hey, what are you doing reactivating that group text from two years ago? Go back up and all you need to do is see who is in that group text, and you have to always do it. That's at a lower level of a small company, right? Let alone doing it at a bigger level of a military with things on the line, so, don't get me wrong, I mean,
Starting point is 01:29:15 the left is making crazy claims, Hexed was drunk and this, this, that, that's really the angle they wanna take in, because they wanna find a way to character, assassinate and make fun, and he's not the right person to run this and that's what they're gonna be doing but you have to be careful with this stuff but it is rich though that Hillary Clinton of all people is commenting on anything that has to do with emails or text or national security sure let's not like
Starting point is 01:29:40 the fact that she's even trying to be relevant, it's like this woman will not just- Last person to have the moral authority to criticize this or say anything about it. Correct. Period. And again, this is going towards the Democratic Party. That party will never, ever, ever change besides the Jasmine Crockett. If I even get there, they're never going- you should tell her, people like her, just disappear.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Don't talk because you look like a moron. All the blackberries that destroyed all the emails, all the all the testimony, all the it's just. But Vinny, don't get it twisted. Wrong messenger, right message, right message. Yes, right. 100% they screwed up. I agree.
Starting point is 01:30:19 I was the first one to say it by the way, screw ups are going to happen. I agree. Okay. And if just because it's a screw up, now they want to go and basically try to dismantle and just wreck a Pete Hegseth claim that he's drunk during all this. By the way, JD Vance was in this text message group. You have Mike Waltz texting JD Vance. It's one of the other ones right there.
Starting point is 01:30:40 He said, VP, the building collapsed had multiple positive ID. Pete, Karilla,illo the IC amazing job JD Vance goes what? Typing too fast first target their top missile guy the point is these conversations should happen do happen We're just getting the it's exposed Yeah, because they screwed up and added one person that should have not been there and they should be under hot water for screwing up. Let's go through a couple of these stories here and wrap up. Okay. Next story. Zelensky says Putin will die soon and vows it will come to an end. Okay, Rob, if you got the clip for this one
Starting point is 01:31:16 Go ahead. This is Zelensky It also depends on his age. He will die soon. that's a fact, and it will come to an end. And it could come to an end even before he ends his absolutely safe and historically losing life, historically lost life. How did this not get more attention? Yeah, what? Because he said if he dies being young age or if he dies before that. That's basically saying...
Starting point is 01:31:55 No, he didn't say if he dies. He says he most likely will die before. Can you go back and play that clip again, Rob, in like five seconds into it? You just had it up. There you go. He's reading from the script yeah right there yeah that's a fact and it will come to an end and it could be come to an end even before could come even before meaning what are you saying before an old age yeah what what are you saying how old is putin rob 72 years old he's chilling so 72 years old to say something like that
Starting point is 01:32:26 Tom, how do you process that? I? I don't process it about Putin what I process is Zelensky is saying something Inflammatory about one of the three parties that is trying to negotiate a ceasefire so you've got the US trying to get Ukraine and Russia in wherever it was in Saudi Arabia, wherever they were, and on the phone. And since they were trying to get this delicate thing, we have a little bit of a ceasefire going on. This is Zelensky says this to me, this is like, this guy doesn't want to ceasefire He's now poking the bear on the eve of getting a ceasefire. What's going on here?
Starting point is 01:33:07 Who's who who's in his ear telling him to to do things like this to try and piss off russia? That is my take Adam well, I don't know maybe he was just watching uh rocky 4 and he was getting motivation from ivan drago when he says If he dies, he dies. And this is maybe where he's getting his motivations. And, you know, Rocky, I think was also a, how tall was Sylvester Stallone? Five, five, eight. How tall do you think Putin is?
Starting point is 01:33:39 Five, seven. How tall do you think Zelensky is? Four, two. So I think actually Putin and Zelensky are the exact same height is the ironic thing It just looks way shorter. I don't know, you know, he's probably my assumption as he's talking about the fact that he is 72 years old, you know the life expectancy of a healthy 72 year old. It's gonna take you to 90 something It's probably not gonna die in the next 10 20 years, but we'll see but then again, let's just get real here These guys are at war and war, you're trying to kill each other.
Starting point is 01:34:09 So if he dies, he dies. Yeah, I guess the question is, is he insinuating? Is he indirectly sending a message? Is he trying to rattle? Is he trying to make a comment to prevent this ceasefire from taking place because it'll stop the inflow of money coming in Is he what is the? you know Sign language like you know when you know somebody for a while
Starting point is 01:34:36 You'll know when they're speaking. They'll know like my guys who work with me for a long time sales guys I would be speaking on stage I never mentioned anybody's name, but everybody knew who I was talking about. Not everybody. The main top 5% knew who I was talking about. People have to know why he's saying something like that. You're a world leader. You're in the middle of it.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Some guy named President Trump is trying to prevent and stop the war that continues, that's costing hundreds of thousands of people's lives, and that's how you want to speak? So I would call him if I'm like, can I ask you a question? Yes. Why did you say that? What was your outcome of saying that? It doesn't sound like you're committed to doing anything. It doesn't sound like you want to get anything done. What was your purpose of saying that? Has anybody reacted to what he said Rob? Not that I have seen I don't think has anyone reacted to what Zelensky said about Putin could die Could die
Starting point is 01:35:33 So let's just see who's retweeted this the Zelensky says Putin will die so much for the policy Okay, so that's Russia TV though right Russia. What's RT stand for Russia?, yeah, it's Russia TV. Russia, what is it? I think it's Russia Today. Russia Today, okay. So go a little bit lower, just to see if anybody else is gonna do something. Actor is a moron, Zelensky says Putin will die soon, okay, keep going, but who else has reacted to it?
Starting point is 01:35:57 After all this man has done for money, now he understands one of his opponents, keep going lower, okay, so that's that. Putin has only three, okay, so now it's getting into stuff for many many years it's not nothing that's I don't know can I know yeah so certainly in the spirit of diplomacy and trying to end a war this wasn't a comment that you should probably should be making but just a hypothetical what if this was Putin who said this about Zelensky you never know know. He might die very soon. We'll see
Starting point is 01:36:26 Do you think that that would be? Also an egregious mistake. Do you think it would be something similar to that? Or is it yeah for sure if Putin said it like if if you're a world leader and you make comments I have to Sit there and think is this a distraction comment? Because sometimes you'll make a comment to get people to go look here and all the time you're over here, right? So I understand that.
Starting point is 01:36:50 I mean, you're supposed to understand these types of things as a world leader to throw people off. So could this be a throwing off people? I don't think so. What are you throwing people off of? Throwing people off of this topic, like let's just say if you're trying to do something like that
Starting point is 01:37:05 You want to throw people off you should have talked about? You know what's going on with Canada and Mexico and try to like poke the bear to annoy him in a different way Not to say something like this this doesn't I don't know because I'm not in it again I'm not inside of it to be able to call 17 people and say what was this about and be able to process it with generals and leaders and political guys. I'm not inside of it. But it's also timing. If you said this a year ago, two years ago, you know, when you're literally in the height
Starting point is 01:37:36 of the war, rhetoric, okay, you're trying to have peace negotiations. Yeah, I know. It's problematic, right? Click on the Newsweek one, let's see what the five takeaways are. Let's see what Newsweek says. Go a little bit lower Rob for the top five. Why does it matter if the rumors are Putin's dead? Zelensky may have been simply referring on how leaders live forever, but Zelensky insisted that Putin continue to isolate Putin under Kiev.
Starting point is 01:37:56 So he's saying it just because he's going to eventually die. What to know? Zelensky took questions from several broadcasts, from wide-ranging interviews followed by talks on Saudi Arabia and Russia on partial overseas foreign policy. But Zelensky said he hoped the U.S. would stand strong in the face of Russian demands to lift sanctions as a condition. Okay, go a little bit lower for the Black Sea. Putin will die soon.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Zelensky said that the U.S. should not bring Putin out of political and economic isolation, that right now was one of the most dangerous moments. Sir, Russian leaders wanted to remain in power until his death and he had ambitions beyond Ukraine which was why the U.S. and Europe stayed okay. He added he will die soon. Zelensky gave no further detail on face questions about the health which Kremlin has been dismissed. Okay, Steve Witkoff knows real estate. Go a little bit lower up to see what the U.S. is influenced by Russian.
Starting point is 01:38:44 He mentioned the U is influenced by Russia. What are the five points that they're talking about? Return of missing children, zoom out a little bit to see if we see any five points, go anything lower, anything lower, nothing there. I don't see anything there. I don't know why he's saying this. I don't know why he's saying it. Anyways, let's go to the next story.
Starting point is 01:39:00 Maybe we'll find out, but I would be so furious if I'm Trump and I'm trying to broker a deal and you're talking like this What the F are you doing? What are you doing? Anyways? Yeah, I got I got two stories I want to go to let's go to the LeBron one So LeBron James addresses Stephen A Smith's confrontation for the first time and so where does LeBron go to the direct competitor of Stephen A Smith he goes to the Pat McAfee show, okay? Just to say, hey, I'm going to this guy over you and we know he's doing that.
Starting point is 01:39:30 We understand, guys that follow these stories know what's going on. But let's go on and play this clip. Go for it, Rob. Which leads obviously to you and Stephen A. Hey, legit, that feels like a moment that had been brewing for a long time. He's like on a Taylor Swift swift. Yeah tour run right now
Starting point is 01:39:46 Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're watching. Yeah, we're all seeing. Oh, yeah. You're seeing it as well. It's not just no He literally it started off with I didn't want to address it Yeah, sure. I didn't I didn't want to address it. I wasn't going to address it But since the video came out, I feel the need to address it the video came out, I feel the need to address it. You would have been off to talk about it. Are you kidding me? If there's one person that couldn't wait to the video
Starting point is 01:40:09 to drop so you can address it, it's your ass. Like seriously, I, it's, and like another, he completely like missed the whole point. The whole point. Never in my, never would I ever not allow people to talk about the sport, criticize players about what they do on the court. That is your job to criticize or to be in a position
Starting point is 01:40:38 where okay, if a guy's not performing, that is all part of the game. That's all part of the game. That's all part of the game. But when you take it and you get personal with it, it's my job to not only protect my damn household, but protect the players, you know? And I think a lot of the media, including him, and I know he's gonna be happy as hell,
Starting point is 01:41:02 he's gonna be smiling from ear to ear when he hears me talking about him. Oh my God, he's gonna be happy as hell. He's gonna be smiling from ear to ear when he hears me talking about He's gonna get home and grab some ice cream out of the fucking Chair and his tiny white he's on the couch Some point you to get do good like you're like Relax bro like relax like seriously. Yeah, so Stephen A responds to this in a couple different ways, Rob. I don't know if you have it or not,
Starting point is 01:41:28 but until you find it, which is fine. LeBron goes in troll mode and he posts a picture because Stephen A said, if you get to my face, is this the one, Rob? Yes. Okay, go ahead and play this clip. That man put his hands on me, I would have immediately swung on him, immediately. That man put his hands on me I would have immediately swung on him immediately.
Starting point is 01:41:45 That man put his hand on me. Now by the way to his defense he came back and said guys play the entire clip because he did say now he would have destroyed me. Oh yeah. But I'm just saying. Okay. I would have reacted to it. Yeah no he did of course he qualified it but then Lebron went and posted this on his Instagram account. Okay, okay SA. Obviously there's a lot of fun going on with this here, but he had a full on reaction, but before I go there, Adam, your thoughts and then I'll show you the clip on Stephen A.
Starting point is 01:42:19 We're talking about goats here. Now if they're gonna play one on one and play basketball or even fight, put your money on LeBron. You put your money on Stephen A. But LeBron, respect to you buddy on the court off the court. You're also a family man. When it comes to debating when it comes to having the verbiage when it comes to speaking. You're talking to the goat right here. This is Stephen A, arguably the greatest sports
Starting point is 01:42:46 commentator of all time or trash talker trash talker. So you don't want to go into that ring with Stephen A stay on your side. So you know how Lebron was talking about, listen, you know, I'm gonna stand up for my other other players or stand up, you know, as a father, let's not get it twisted. You're not standing up for any other players to Stephen A like this. You're standing up for one player and one player only. And his name is LeBron James Jr. AKA Brownie James. So Stephen A has every right to criticize an NBA player and say, look, maybe he ain't
Starting point is 01:43:22 cut out for the league, but you know what just happened? Actually turned out it actually was motivation and fire under Bronnie James's butt. Why? Because a week or so later, a guy who was averaging point five points a game, not even a full point came out at a career hide 16 points playing for the Lakers while LeBron was out of the game. So maybe this was the thing that Brani needed to get into the league. Let's not forget Brani has not played much college or professional basketball. Remember he played for USC for like a half a season because he was out the first half of the season with a heart condition. Let's not make any assumptions. Let's just go with the whatever.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Whatever. Make it was your old heartstop Whatever. Well, we can make their own so Opinion last point it is very interesting. You know Pat you called it his rival Pat McAfee, you know a lot of people don't know the inside stuff to quote a ma chowd with this thing right here, but Pat McAfee he signed a hundred million dollar contract whatever it was a couple years ago Stephen A Smith has been under contract negotiations for what feels like years and it just got solidified this month hundred million dollars for i believe four years five years it's competitive okay competitive play play this clip what he had to say, I was in no position
Starting point is 01:44:46 to give any kind of retort without making a scene. It was during the third quarter. It was fresh out of a timeout. It was him walking to the basketball court. It was on national television. The cameras were rolling. And had I done something, what do y'all want me to do? You want me to act, you want this to be
Starting point is 01:45:03 a reincarnation of Chris Rock and Will Smith? And let me stay for the record that while we bring up that, let me assure you, it wouldn't have gone down like that. I would have gotten my ass kicked because had that man put his hands on me, I would have immediately swung on him, immediately. That I'm not gonna tolerate. But I knew he wasn't going to do something like that. There was no fear in my mind about it. It was shock. Because as I have repeatedly
Starting point is 01:45:33 stated, I was not talking about his son. I was talking about him. Is that it, Rob? Yes, sir. Yeah, there's a clip. There's a clip there that he says LeBron is a liar, he's shady, he's this, he's that, he's this and I'll try to find that clip. I mean he kinda is though. He what? LeBron kind of is. Just from the past couple years with everything from you know when it came to China when the NBA was making all this money he stayed quiet when everybody was. Is this it Rob? Yes, this is a go for play this clip This is it. Go ahead But don't the truth matter
Starting point is 01:46:10 Because there's one person in this ordeal that's telling the truth and it's me this is I had I don't lie to y'all His ass lies a lot And there's a lot of shady stuff that he does. And one of the things is his passive aggressiveness and the two-facedness and smiling your face and dig you in behind the back. I happen to know that about him, which is why I don't like him.
Starting point is 01:46:45 And he don't like me. That's right. But it doesn't stop me from being fair and calling it like I see it. We ain't exchanging Christmas gifts. We ain't having Thanksgiving dinner together. What you bring your son up in there for? What you bring your family up in there for? You're going to go on Pat McAfee's show, talk about you gonna protect your house.
Starting point is 01:47:05 What you talking about? Your son ain't at the house. He's at Crypto.com Arena. We ain't covering him in Brentwood. We covering him in downtown LA at the Crypto.com Arena. Where you put him. Yeah. So and by the way, that's the criticism.
Starting point is 01:47:24 He says another story, he says, you know, LeBron's always been the guy that that's the criticism he says another story says You know LeBron's always been the guy that's been the passive aggressive guy And he says he's the guy that will say something to your face and it go behind your back. I don't trust this guy he said this straight up about About what he called it LeBron and how he is and then later on the topic of discussion came up about Michael Jordan Rob, do you have that one? I do okay, so so he's asked about Michael. He says, how often do you guys speak? Right? And this is so funny because of-
Starting point is 01:47:48 He said, never I believe. Yeah, well, he says he explains why Michael said we can't speak. I don't know if he says it in this clip, but go for it, Rob. Okay, so you and Michael at a good spot. Who, me and Michael? Jordan.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Yeah, we're a good spot. We don't talk. Why not, you think? Because I'm still playing. uh, I'm still playing I'm still playing I'm still focused on my craft right now when you're done. You think you to be So, you know, you know the funny thing is me like me and Kobe besides are you know the late great Kobe? Obviously me and Kobe never had a real relationship either Until we was on the Olympic team. We had a great relationship there. Olympic team eight, Olympic team twelve, but it was always competitive between us. We were
Starting point is 01:48:30 always like I was on the East Coast. He was on the West Coast and it was like even though we never I fucked up one time and you know, oh nine and didn't beat Orlando and I think it was oh nine didn't beat Orlando and didn't get an opportunity to play him in the finals, but like Dw Dwight Howard made it to the finals. Until I became a Laker and then he retired, that's when our relationship like became really, really good. Yeah. You know, he like welcomed me, called me like, bro, anything you need in LA, like I got you, you a Laker now, you family, you know,
Starting point is 01:49:00 and we would have multiple conversations. He was obviously, you got to saw him come in a lot of games and things of that nature. And when I when I passed him in the scoring record in Philly, you know, I think he had a tweet out there like keep on going like keep transcending the game. Keep going like and that shit like meant so much to me. So like I think it's because I'm still playing, you know, and MJ's we all know MJ even if you don't know him personally. He's one of the most ruthless competitors there he is and till I'm done and he doesn't have to look at me run up and down wearing the number 23 and every time my name is mentioned is mentioned with his he's like I don't want to fucking talk
Starting point is 01:49:36 to you yeah I'm on the golf course don't talk to me right now I'm on the back nine do not call me it was great to see y'all at the top 75. Oh yeah, that was dope. That's straight respect, admiration, and just like, you know, me for sure. Like I said, I wear a 23 because of MJ, you know, and that shit. The inspiration that he gave me as a kid at Akron, Ohio that don't have much inspiration in your hometown. At the top 75, the 75 best players, that one thing, where do they rank Michael? Where do they rank LeBron? Do they rank it in order in the hierarchical order? Well, they do because they came in a 75th anniversary rank, so this was the NBA 75th
Starting point is 01:50:18 anniversary ranked 76th basketball legends. What year was this Rob? 2022. Okay, that's, yeah, okay, he won the, okay, so go see who's in the top 10. Who do they have in the top 10? All the way down. Well Isaiah Thomas, number one, we know that.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Yeah, for sure. And by the way, he said something else in the podcast. Okay, let's go through, let's see who they have. Durant 12, ahead of Olajuwon. I don't know, Shaq is 11? Okay. I don't know about that. Let's see whowon. I don't know, Shaq is 11? Okay. I don't know about that. Let's see that.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Kobe 10. Kobe above Shaq? No, but that's not the point. Kobe 10th? Keep going. Keep going. Oscar 9th? Oscar Robertson. He won one championship. Mr. Triple Double. Tim Duncan. How many championships?
Starting point is 01:50:56 Can you say how many championships Oscar Robertson won? He averaged a tip, he was like Russell Westbrook. He did, he was Russell Westbrook, but that's not. Back in the day. How many championships did he win? Did Oscar up some win? I thought it was only one he won. Yeah, you won one championship Why do you put him at that's so weird to me? You I can't trust the rest of 12 time NBA
Starting point is 01:51:19 Was Kareem there at that time keep going Rob I have no respect for this for this list now. Tim Duncan, Mr. Fundamental, here we go. Give it a frickin' break. He's got five champions. Pat already doesn't like this list. Let's see what's going on here. Larry Legend at seven. They won three championships. Yeah, but you gotta put away,
Starting point is 01:51:36 reverse DEI from the NBA. Get that one white guy. Come on guys, let's have a little respect. All right, so now you put Bill Russell. 10 championships, how many? Give me a look at the stats. 15.1, 20 20 20 have now you put him here because I'm a champion I'm a champion I totally get it, but then put Rodman in there with 17 Rodman didn't have 22 I keep going keep going Chamberlain wilt five ahead of a hundred
Starting point is 01:51:59 Deserves to be in a top five. I'm with that keep going Magic Johnson, you're gonna have Korean., I interviewed Magic in front of a couple thousand people at Fort Ward Convention Center, and in front of everybody, he says, let me make it very clear, Kobe is the greatest Laker of all time. They have him at fourth place and Kobe at tenth place? Give it a break, keep going Rob, keep going.
Starting point is 01:52:24 Kareem three, okay, that's fine, that argument can be made it a break keep going Rob keep going Kareem three okay that's that's fine that argument can be made for sure keep going number two LeBron and Michael this is a terrible matter of fact let's just transition away from I just I looked it up Oscar Robinson Oscars Center in 1971 was he very young Kareem Abdul Jabbar In other words Robertson doesn't get the championships without with that one championship without Kareem Well, Kobe doesn't get championships without Shaq. We won't go there. But stop Shaq won all the MVPs that the PBI Question for the boss, which was my point. Okay, so LeBron is defending brawny
Starting point is 01:53:06 Junior LeBron James jr. Hypothetically, you know, you've got kids, you know, you have one kid that is very politically inclined Yeah, his name is Patrick bet David jr. Tico so let's say there comes a day when Tico starting to do content, maybe he's one of the co-hosts here and He has a slow start. It's his rookie year and when Tico's starting to do content. Maybe he's one of the co-hosts here and he has a slow start. It's his rookie year and maybe there's a Stephen A Smith out there that starts to talk trash or someone in the comments about your son. Don't you think there's gonna be a different... The way Stephen A did it? The way that... Yeah, I guess there's two different people here. The way Stephen A did it was pure fair play.
Starting point is 01:53:44 There's comments out there. Okay, so if there's two different people here. The way Steven Hager was pure fair play. There's comments out there? No. So if he's talking about Tico that way? No problem. Okay, walk me through this please. Because he didn't disrespect. He just said he doesn't belong in the league.
Starting point is 01:53:59 If let's just say somebody gets on the podcast, they say you don't belong in the league to do podcasts. When we started doing podcasts, you're not a podcaster you're not at this you're not at that we think you're creating content yeah you're supposed to say that and then you I said that to a guy today guy my next me today says let me tell you I think I'm in the top 1% of podcasters in the world and it's got 4,000 subscribers and I'm trying to compliment him then all of a sudden it becomes so hype and I'm like bro bro, forgive me for complimenting you. I actually, let me take that back.
Starting point is 01:54:27 You're not in the top 1% of podcasters. Now you sound arrogant. Now you sound entitled. Now you sound this. And I don't even know if you're asking questions. For the first seven years of us doing YouTube, every other month we would hire a consultant for YouTube to learn about what stats and data and what mistakes we're making. We didn't know if we were gonna be in the space
Starting point is 01:54:45 for this long to improve. Till today, we're trying to find a way to improve. Constantly, we're coming up with new strategies and things that we're doing. No, I have no problem with that kind of feedback being given. You disrespect, it's a different story. And I don't think Stephen A crossed the line
Starting point is 01:54:59 with disrespect. No, but Lebron is a passive aggressive guy and Lebron is a guy that thinks, there's never been a superstar in the history of the NBA that thinks as highly of himself as Lebron does. Never. There's never been one that thinks highly of himself as Lebron does that is such a drama. Look, to me, it's mathematically impossible for Lebron to be, I have him as second, right?
Starting point is 01:55:24 But I can easily see somebody making an argument to show there's videos of LeBron. He gets hit like this, he touches his head and he starts scratching it like he got punching head. How can a man take such abuse? Yeah, that's the videos right? So no, I don't know. I just don't see that. Real quick, my justification for why he maybe feels entitled that way, we've never seen anybody go from literally 10th grade being the chosen one, King James, and then literally delivering. Because every other player who's in that conversation, especially in the social media age, MJ get cut from his high school team.
Starting point is 01:56:02 So there was always a chip on his shoulder. Okay? He wasn't the goat. Kobe, remember he had his kill list? Kobe was like a top. 7.2 points a game, his rookie season. He averaged 15 points a second season. Rob, can you go to his stats? MJ wasn't the number one pick.
Starting point is 01:56:16 We saw Sam Bowie the other night. Sam Bowie. Sam Bowie fighting. Portland. Sam Bowie was picked ahead and he had a chip on his shoulder. Kobe was drafted by Charlotte and then traded for I think Vlad a divac to the Lakers chip on his shoulder Kobe didn't come out his rookie year ball out. He was he wasn't even an all-star I don't think is that first year Rob, but how many points per game is it seven point six? Is that minutes?
Starting point is 01:56:40 That's minutes. The first one is minutes second one is yeah, but But LeBron. Yes, 7.2. I said 7.2, 7.6. Second year average 15. Then he went to 99, then 22, and then boom. This is Kobe? From 2001, 20 points again, 25. And now we're in the championship lane there. 2000, 2001, 2000. LeBron is the only person that we've seen literally say high school to NBA, I'm going to be be the goat turned out to be that dude and Delivered so I can understand why he has such an inflated ego now that hasn't worked out well for the league Because their ratings have tanked. He's not a you've gone And you know why you know why he's the most unattractive well besides It's really funny if you guys look at Bob You don't look it up, but it's funny
Starting point is 01:57:25 He tries to act like he's somebody that he's not the fact that every time he has a book in his hand like it's Read it. He's reading it. It's always on the first page The guy's not and I'm not I'm not it is what it is. I mean he left high school and went there I don't know how freaking he's not articulate. Like you said, right Adam his Vernacular isn't so freaking great. But you know what? Let's just look at how unattractive it was. Page four. It might be page four with a towel. He's reading the towel. But anyway, and it comes to unattractiveness. He lost it, and it all started shifting. And then the league suffered for it because think about it. Remember when he slammed that cop and tweeted, you're next for officer Nicholas Reardon after he shot the Mackay Bryant. Stopping her from stabbing another girl, he was like, you're next to the cop.
Starting point is 01:58:13 He mocked Kyle Rittenhouse for crying on the stand. He stayed silent on China, the human rights thing when he attacked Darryl Morey, remember that for supporting Hong Kong. All this to protect his Nike and his NBA money. He talks about being oppressed, but he lives like a freaking king, literally, and he backs all the woke policies against conservative values.
Starting point is 01:58:34 That's why he's an unattractive guy, unattractive player, not a, in my point of view, not a good dude, and then yeah, when Stephen A is just speaking facts and you let it hurt your feelings, and then you try to embarrass him in front of view, not a good dude, and then yeah, when Stephen A is just speaking facts and you let it hurt your feelings, and then you try to embarrass him in front of everybody, no, that's my problem. You know you're not gonna do anything to him. You know you weren't gonna hit him,
Starting point is 01:58:53 and you know he wasn't gonna hit you. That's the problem. You were just trying to embarrass him and look tough. You ain't gonna do nothing, bro. Even on the street, you're gonna fight him in the street. Give me a break, bro. If you were really about that life, you would've walked right up to him
Starting point is 01:59:04 and punched him in the face right there. If, no, no, no. That's not professional. He's a professional. No, street. Give me a break, bro. If you were really about that life, you would've walked right up to him and punched him in the face right there. If, no, no. No, no. Adam, Adam. He's a professional. That's not professional. Going up to Stephen A. And then going like, oh, Stephen A.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Hold on. And then saying, Stephen A. was happy. He's gonna go celebrate that I'm talking about him. No, you're the cause for it. You're sensitive, and you're talking to another level, and Stephen A. matched you at it. Who's winning in this whole thing? I can actually give him respect for going up and talking to another level and Stephen A matched you at it. Who's winning in this whole thing?
Starting point is 01:59:26 I can actually give him respect for going up and talking to the source. If he would have tweeted it like most people would do these days, all the tough guys with the Twitter fingers, he went up and said, listen, I have a problem with what you did. Here's the deal. I'm not going to punch you in the face. I have a game to play, but I have an issue with it. That's what a man does. On the third quarter of a game in the middle of everything You know the third quarter. It's cuz it's halftime. No third quarters about to start Well, you know you do you're in the show business He could have got his phone number and said yo dog as a man
Starting point is 01:59:54 No, you don't go and do that because you ain't gonna do shit. There's nothing to do. He's talking to us Like a man. I don't want that light, bro I'm gonna add on if I ever real about what life about my son and I'm mad I'm not going to go up to him like me, me, me, me, me and walk away. What are you going to tweet him? Text him. No. You don't think he'll get his number? Oh, so you're going to text him? Real tough. You're a tough text to Vinny.
Starting point is 02:00:11 No, what I'm saying is if you're going to go up to someone like that, Adam, what do you want to do? What do you want to do? That's where I'm from. I'm going to text you right now, Vinny. Sorry, bro. Sorry. I'm going to text you right now, Vinny. Tom, are you about that life? Tom, I want to ask you one question question I have to be packed right up. Tom are you, not about, are you about that life?
Starting point is 02:00:30 I don't know but when me and my homies were talking about this situation. Me and my homies were talking about this situation and we weren't down with the flop at all. No I got two things to say. And the first thing I'm gonna say, one man was doing his job. 7,000 people voted, Rob.
Starting point is 02:00:49 Our audience just voted. 7,000 people voted on who's the greatest NBA player of all time. Jordan, LeBron, Kobe. Jordan got 80 votes. Kobe got 10. LeBron got 5%. 80%.
Starting point is 02:01:00 Wow! 80%. I don't care if you guys ever get anything wrong on politics or anything else we can fight you can maniacal You can talk shit. You can say whatever you want with Trump and all this other stuff. I love you guys Yeah to everybody that voted here Yeah, you're my type of people Members so we can have these time Vinny. I just tough text you right now I don't gotta text me and he said I want We can have these types of talks. Vinny, I just tough text you right now. That is great. Hang on. I challenge you, bro. I challenge you.
Starting point is 02:01:26 No, no, no. Adam got to text me and he said I want to kiss you. Nice. Vinny, Vinny, Vinny. We're going to go to another story. Go ahead, homie. There's two things in my mind that are very, very clear. One is I thought Stephen A. Smith was doing his job and doing it very professionally and
Starting point is 02:01:39 the reaction he had I do not think was acting. I happen to believe, my my opinion that what I saw there LeBron knew the cameras are rolling LeBron knew what was going on. I think he took it personal It wasn't about defending his son. I think he took it personal He was upset and I think he walked in front of Stephen a there on the court to do the equivalent of take a flop for The cameras that's what that's what I think and I think Stephen a was just doing his job And I think he was very articulate and I I applaud Stephen a for stepping up and saying listen I don't think it's about your home. I think it's about what we're doing here at crypto.com arena
Starting point is 02:02:21 That's what I was speaking about. We're not speaking about this. Don't try to make it what it's not All you had to do was say I'm about that. That's true. That's your body. You always making Rob's time I know 7100 people voted Michael 80 percent Wow Michael Jordan on five Tom This flapper of all time. I think that issue, when he said I wear 23A, I wear it to honor Jordan, I think he thinks he's the one and it bothers him.
Starting point is 02:02:51 Tom, you know what, I gotta tell people, you know what Tom and I do on the weekends? Rolling down the street, smoking endo, sipping on gin and juice. What, Tom? With my mind on my money and my money on my mind. Every time time Tom. Every single time.
Starting point is 02:03:06 By the way, last night, yesterday, we're on the flight, we're trying to sleep, there is so much turbulence, it's mathematically impossible. But this lady, Matteo, ordered enough food for party of four. Oh my God. This, they keep bringing food.
Starting point is 02:03:23 And then they bring this salad to Tom Thomas Panicking. We're all done. Thomas like what is this? So no, this is your salad. It was a top salad after this is after the steak. This is after the cheese board after 20 minutes of good conversation and all of a sudden comes a Cobb salad that's the size of Rhode Island. You guys have to see this.
Starting point is 02:03:44 You know what? I'm going to put this in. Should I's the size of Rhode Island. You guys have to see this. You know what, I'm gonna put this in, should I put behind the scenes? No, I'll just send it to you guys. Rob, can you play this clip? Hey, if you're in our circle, you get to see this. Yeah, Rob, well on the circle, there's a lot of cool debates going on in the circle right now,
Starting point is 02:03:55 which is great. The PBD Podcast circle. But I'll play this clip. I've never eaten this much. This is the salad being arrived to Tom. On the flight back, by the way, it was, I think think turbulence straight three hours. The whole time, I couldn't, I didn't sleep at all.
Starting point is 02:04:07 You hear that beeping sound? Beep, beep. Which is weird on an airplane. Beep, beep, beep. Well, Pat, while he's doing it, wouldn't have been funny though, if in that LeBron, Stephen A. Smith interaction, if LeBron went, hey man, just chill.
Starting point is 02:04:21 And LeBron, like if he flopped at that moment, I would have pissed on my pants That would I wouldn't put it past them. I think it was a metaphorical flop look at this I'm for the camera. Oh, we just ate for an hour, and then he just gets this out look at Tom's face It's on to speed Robin audios yeah, there you go go back a little bit What is that that is a Cobb salad that Tom ordered Go back a little panini sandwich and a salad. A panini? Well, enjoy buddy. We're watching you.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Go for it. He didn't touch it. One cucumber now, one tomato, nothing. He didn't touch it. But anyways, all right, gang. She took it and put it in the fridge. I just. And then she threw it away because nobody ate it. It's over gang
Starting point is 02:05:26 What is today today's what Thursday today's today's Thursday the Thursday today's Thursday anyways Rob, what do we got going on this this week? We got nothing else going on this week. No Monday We'll have an interview coming out Stay tuned for more. Oh What is it? Yeah, I guess let me later Stay tuned for more.

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