PBD Podcast - Zuby | PBD Podcast | EP 81

Episode Date: August 7, 2021

In episode 81 of the PBD Podcast, Patrick Bet-David sits down with Adam Sosnick, Gerard Michaels, and special guest Zuby! Watch the full podcast: https://youtu.be/j6-401Cy4vY --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pbdpodcast/support

You know what we're live. Vegas. You know what you're live. Oh, sorry. You know what your look is. What? You rock the vest with the suit better than anyone. Three-piece suit?

Yeah, I don't see anyone rocking that. It's better than Sanville. Sam just wears vest. He asked Sanville to take the Mator D in the ass. Yeah, he just wore a shirt. Sam took off his shirt. He had a tattoo of a vest on it. He just wears a vest.

He just wears it. He just wears it. By the way, so we have a guest here. We do. We got a guest here today. Zubi is in the house. Team Zubi. Yeah, Zubi's in the house.

Zubi, when did you get in, by the way? You flew from... Man, I got into here last... Yesterday? Yesterday evening. I got to the States a week ago. You got to the States a week ago. And this is from...

So, I left the UK three weeks ago. Yeah. Because the travel ban is still in place So I had to go outside the shanghen zone for two weeks So I went to Istanbul stayed there for two weeks and I flew from there to Houston I spoke at the young Americans foundation annual student event. I spoke there on Tuesday Yeah, that one well hundreds and hundreds of students that was really dope and yeah first time in Florida since 1990. And what were you doing in 1990 when you were in Florida?

I think going to Disney World with that. Well Disney, that's cool. You got a very small time. I guess it's Vegas for Toddler. First of all, let me give you the crazy story what happens here. So we're sitting there booking team and we're trying to figure out guess because you know everybody makes recommendation. Gerard says Pat, you got to get this kind of Zuby. And I say Zuby, he says I'm telling you know everybody makes recommendation. Gerard says Pat, you got to get this

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I'm not invited. I can't just walk in unannounced. I said, let's do it. Next thing, you know, a thousand likes later within 10 minutes, I'm like, well, this guy's, they love this guy. So we got on the counter and I'm glad we were able to make a one.

I'm just selling the way that Gerard sold Zubin. No, no, no, to Gerard. That's it. I was upset. You're like, you gotta get him. Like you were a fan, boy. So if by any chance you don't have a manager that represents you, this guy would be a good one.

If he represented you right, he would be good. Okay, for low low price, 35%. Okay, so we got a lot of crazy stories to go through. You got a lot of strong opinions. You won viral last recently with something you did. You know, we got stories here from Rihanna becoming a billionaire which we'll cover. We have a story with Miley Cyrus calling out the rapper DeBaby

saying we shouldn't cancel him. We should educate him. Kanye West has got his new album, apparently coming out, but just by the way, I love what Jamie Dimon said to Elizabeth Warren. When Elizabeth Warren says, you know, all these overdraft feats are baloney. We'll cover that.

Record number of journalists jailed worldwide. We don't know why. Maybe we'll cover that a little bit. Chinese mouthpiece paid US newspaper, $19 million in ads. I think it's important we cover that. Olympic gold medalist shares USA Pride following historic win, which I think everybody loved

or childlike reaction when she won. And a few other stories. But I think we start off with one story that Zubi, you may not be familiar with the story, but I think by the time we're done reading about it, you'll have some opinions on this. I think, I hope so. So there's this story of this male rapper,

identifying as female, the clairs. If you can bring the story up so we can see it, the clairs, he broke female's deadlift record. So this male rapper, Zubi, identifying as female, the clairs he broke female, deadlift record. This is a WQAD News 8 story, okay. A British rapper named Zubi, okay? Garnard worldwide attention to March 2019

after posting a video of himself. The clan he had broken the British woman deadlift record. In the tweet, Zubi said that he identified as a woman wills lifting the weight, ultimately trolling the debate of transgender people competing in athletic events. He claimed to have broken a woman deadlift record of 238 kilograms, that's 528 pounds, and he said it was without even trying. Different athletic organization, both the United States and around the world have their own

policies in place to include the transgender athletes, the International Olympic Committee, a National Collegiate Athletic Association, and the NAIA all have rules that say transgender woman need to pass certain test US powerlifting however does not allow transgender woman to compete as woman So can we play this video if you don't mind just play the video of him doing it because I think everybody needs to see this this is you Look at that As a clean lift I could have done like five of those Four million views your tweet. I keep hearing done like five of those. Four million views, your tweet. I keep hearing about how biological men don't have any physical strength advantage over women in 2019.

So watch me destroy the British woman deadlift record without even trying PSI. Identify that as a woman will lifting the weight. Don't be a bigot. So... The inside grip, by the way, sumo deadlift. Solid. If Gerardo proves you know it's legit. The inside grip by the way, Sumo deadlift solid. Yeah, man. If Gerardo proves you know it's legit. So what got benches? Why have gave you the idea of wanting to do this?

Because everybody was talking about this. So we'll give you the idea. No doubt. So since like, when did the world start going super silly? Like 2015, 2016, I was following these stories and seeing this happening, right? This is when new genders started being introduced to the Western world and people could identify as anything and I was like, well, this is ultimately gonna lead to You know, there's gonna be downstream repercussions of this. I can see what's happening. I saw what happened with a felon fox in MMA and then in some collegiate areas. I think both in the in Canada and the USA

I was just seeing you you know, male athletes competing against girls and women by identifying as the opposite gender. And I said, okay, you know what, if those are the rules, let's take this to its logical conclusion. So, out of curiosity, I just did a quick Google search of, okay, in my weight class, what's the British women's deadlift record? And I saw it was 215 kilos, I know, my PB is 275. So I was like5 kilos, I know, my PB's 275.

So I was like, oh, okay. And then I just had that video on my phone from one of my training sessions of me pulling 230. Oh, so you didn't do this afterwards, you know? No, I got to. I got to. That was just from one of my training sessions.

I got to do it. So I just took it, I just tweeted. At the time, I had 18,000 Twitter followers. I thought this is gonna get a couple of retweets, a couple of LOLs. And I did not know this was gonna be the thing that would introduce me to millions of people all around the world.

I put that tweet out there, and within seconds, I knew something was up, I was just looking at my phone, like, okay, within 10 minutes, the video had 10,000 views, and it just kept growing, and growing, it was getting retweeted all over the world by huge personalities. People were commenting in different languages. And for days and days and days, this thing was just going viral,

going viral, going viral. After a while, Joe Rogan picks up on it, talks about it on his podcast, which gives it this whole second. Absolutely. And I mean, that was March 2019. And it's gone viral several times since then, because people will pick up again on this story.

A plus two equals five. Two two years two plus two equals. Yeah. And then of course in the Olympics now you've had a this thing came to had again right where New Zealand had their first transgender weightlifter who failed anyway but that caused a big stir so the story sort of is one of those things that just keeps coming back. What do you what do you think they should do? I mean right now is the Olympics keeps coming back. What do you think they should do? I mean, right now it's the Olympics, right? I mean, what do you think they should do?

So by the way, there are some people that, you know, they strongly believe they want to be transgender. Sure. Okay, so let it be. It's a libertarian mindset, do as you choose. But how do you think the Olympics should handle transgenders? Simple. I think you, there's two options.

Either, they kind of really do the same result. There's two options either. They kind of really do the same result. Firstly, most people don't understand that most male sports are not actually male sports. They're just open, right? But it turns out there's never been, for obvious reasons, there's never been a war. It's very important to repeat what you just said.

So in Olympics, most male sports are open. Yeah, I'm not sure about Olympics, but most sports in general. You know, I don't believe the NBA, the NFL, the MLB, they don't have a role saying sports are open. Yeah, I'm not sure about Olympics, but most sports in general. You know, I don't believe the NBA, the NFL, the MLB. They don't have a rule of saying women are not. Like you see these women become like NFL kickers, or even in youth sports in America, you know, especially because women develop faster

and young boys do young girls. So like up until as late as 12, 13 years old. Soccer, it's played boys, basketball girls, and boys, baseball girls, and boys. It just turns out that you know, it's open. It's open. Boys and boys, basketball girls and boys. It just turns out that, you know, there's never been a woman big and strong enough to play in the NFL or in the NBA, etc. Which is why you have a woman's sports division. So it's the women's sports divisions that are exclusive, whereas the other's open.

So you just have an open category. So however you identify whatever best of the best, and then you have a female category. Simple. That's all. Yeah. The interesting thing is, like, look, you then you have a female category. Simple. That's all. Yeah, the interesting thing is, like, look, you're talking about a meritocracy at the end of the day, right? Like, if somebody's good enough, like I always saw that the person who really could break down a gender barrier in a sports

is a knuckleballer. Like a knuckleball pitcher, if there's a woman who could throw a knuckleball, you throw it 65 miles an hour, it's about the movement of the ball, the softer you throw it, the more effective it is. You don't need to over overpower that's somebody that could actually break down a gender barrier She doesn't need to it. She doesn't need to run as fast as anybody else. She doesn't need to swing the bat She can literally use a technique a technical Pitch and be able to compete at that level so that that would be something

But like what Vanderbilt did by running that kicker out so she could kick the ball 30 yards out of bounds Oh, yeah break the gender barriers of the SEC. It was like my god. But what's that? You turn this poor girl into a show pony. That's what you did. You took this poor girl and you told her you turn her into a show pony for your progressive idea.

She won. She won SEC special teams player of the week for a third yard kickoff out of bounds. Yeah. Well, what's the one thing you always joke about? Like, I got one year of eligibility of college left baseball. I brought up, maybe. I'm gonna go get a show. As soon as Joe Biden, like one of his very first executive orders from our king was to

say, though questions asked to basically reverse what they would call the transgender discrimination that Trump had done and say that no questions asked Anybody who identifies as a woman should be able to compete in athletics and CWA athletics As as their their gender identity. So I'm like, okay. I could as a former professional baseball player go back and my age And play softball at the University of Miami. With a metal freaking bat, you're gonna let me hit a ball against 17 year old girls. And if I hit a ball at the middle

and I murder a pitcher or a third basement, it's just getting kneecapped, that's okay. That's equality. Because God forbid you tell me, no bro, you're a 34 year old man. Go anywhere but here. That's the part that's bigotry not me Showering with a 17 year old 18 year old girl in the locker room with a 17 18 year old girl

You know dorming with them practicing with them and competing against them. That's equality Well, if you if you preclude me from that well, you're a big it You know for me the way I see it is the following. Why don't you just create a transgender competition? Let them go at it, let them compete. Let them go at it rather than having to go and take things away from women. If you want to create a transgender contest competition, go for it.

I don't see anything wrong with that. Where you're competing against somebody. Well, their argument path is that they're not true. Yeah, you're dealing with any of the logs. Did you hear the argument Nava Tolova made? No. Have you heard the argument she made? I heard you're not sure.

Can you pull it up? Can you pull up her argument she made? Tennis player Nava Tolova, man, to spell that name, Kai. You're from Norway. You're from Norway. I think you out ofva, man, to spell that name, Kai. You're from Norway. I think you out of everybody should be able to spell that. Navata lova, nah, nah.

And not ma, marasava truchas from Sala, there you go. Okay. So then put trans, put transgender. Yeah. Okay, transgender. She said something about that. She said some quote about it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, click on that i think that's what he said well that's when it was when she said it'll go go up uh... she said something very powerful

uh... and by the way never to love is fully supportive of gay right she is gay yeah i know she is but she said something here the other anyways you guys can continue i'll find this code here to read it to it's a powerful statement she may have just have one question because quite candidly, this is not anything that I'm waking up being like,

what are the trans saying today? This is not, what percentage of the world are transgendered? Like 0.001%, like a fraction of a fraction of a fraction. Okay, so why is this such a big deal because they're infusing themselves into the pop culture and sports? It's because it's been forced on people. Yes, it is.

Right. Because most people look regardless of whether someone, it shouldn't even be political, but whether someone is liberal, conservative, libertarian, whatever. Most people don't care. If you're an adult, do what you want to do. Maybe I don't get it. Maybe I don't agree with it. Whatever.

But if that's what you want to do, it's not harming anyone. Live your life how you want. You're a man you want to wear a dress. You want to put up makeup. You know, you're allowed to. You can do what you wanna do, it's not harming anyone, live your life how you want. You're a man you wanna wear a dress, you wanna put up makeup, you know, you're allowed to. You can do what you want. The problem with this issue is that they're, you know, and again, most transgender people, I've probably, most people don't know any,

I actually know a couple, I don't know any who's in favor of this whole sports thing, right, they think it's crazy because they recognize reality. So it's just the woke left trying to use their ideas, idea law. Exactly. Trans are like, yo, we're good.

Yeah, we know this is your help. But this is something that would potentially impact. She'll see handlers as well. But there's something that impacts 50% of the population. Right. Why is it the men aren't worried about this? Yeah. Right.

Exactly. Which in itself blows up the entire argument of them. But being wrong, there's no other problem. There's no other problem. And Fox, and she's literally caving, she was caving women's faces. Who is she? She was a transgender MMA fighter caving women's faces. Who is she? She was a transgender MMA fighter.

She was a man. This is the problem. Can't even be a woman. No, can't be a woman. And was able to compete against other women. And caving the face. Is it more common for women to become men? Literally, literally,

literally, can I jump in here and say that you cannot actually change your biological sex? It's not possible. Okay, break that down. So even saying she, you're giving into the argument. You're not talking about a she, you're talking about a biological male, you cannot change from a man into a woman. It's not possible. You can make yourself appear as such. You can identify as such, but it is not physically possible. And I think part of it is this overt political correctness with people having to, you know, respect the pronouns and change their whole language

to defy reality, which actually allows people to run with these crazy arguments, because as soon as you start calling someone a woman, they're like, well, if they're a woman, why can't they compete against women? And I'm like, well, no, that's not a woman, that's a biological male identifying as a woman. Why? Because when you're young, you go through puberty,

and if you're born a boy, you go through, you got the hormones, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not. Make that up. Yeah, I'm there. Anybody could. I can't get out of this for me. Hold my beer. It's not cool. Who's the most famous transgender person in the world? Katelyn Jenner probably. Okay, so I have one quick story about this. So, one of my best friends is that guy, Chris Humphries,

that married Kim Kardashian. I was in the wedding. I walked Chloe down the aisle. Bruce was there. This was in, he was in 2000. He was in 2011. He just dead named., he was in, he just dead named. What's up? He's just dead named, someone's gonna cancel you.

All right, well it happens. It's called dead naming. Oh, because he doesn't exist anymore, but at the time it was Bruce Jenner. That was like Ty and our tie, point is that. Watch your language, I know, guys, you know, break some more impact, buddy. It's a mind field.

I gotta go. But point is, we're not gonna, we're not gonna, fast forward, this is probably, I'm not going to get a good impact, buddy. It's a minor field. I got to go. But point it. We're not going to catch a kid. We're not going to catch a kid. Fast forward, this is probably, when did she... He's she. What, I don't know.

What's the future? A few years ago. It was probably 2017. Talk about the future governor. She did it. She did. No, I don't think that's happening. She came out on Diane Sawyer, I believe, like 2020,

and did the whole thing or whatever. But here's the story that night Chris was playing for the wizards at the time washing didn't wizzards and they had just swept The Toronto Raptors right Drake was at the game was a big deal and it was breaking news Caitlyn Jenner announces because it was rumors that was going on right and it was You know after the game, we're celebrating sweep, we're having dinner, we're having drinks, and this is,

and I was like, this is a weird shit, huh? And he's like, yeah, like, thank God I got out, well I did, and I go, you gotta tweet that. And he goes, no, hell no, I go, I literally, I'm like, give me your phone, I've never tweeted before in my life, and I tweeted on Chris's, this was me, I'm opening up to it.

You canceled him. Like, thank God I got out. Well, I did not. You ended his career. Not so much because of the gender thing. But because look at the track record that happened the cardette, Lamar Odom, O.D., Scott Disick, rehab, the father, like literally died.

Robert Kardashian has a son, has been seen in years. I'm like, look at you, bro, you're worth 50 million. You just swept the, you know, the raptors' life's great. And he goes, dude, I got no ill will towards Caitlin. But like, thank God I got to kind of got out what I did. So I took his phone and I tweeted it. I'm like, we did it. Like, huh?

And like, dude, an hour later, his public says, calls, what the fuck are you thinking? He's getting slaughtered. We did it like huh and like dude an hour later his publicist calls slaughtered slaughtered on 20 He didn't throw you under the bus though. He came out made an apology He wasn't gonna be like my boy saw as like I could have been my phone was hacked Yeah, it literally was but he came out made an apology and like the next I was staying with him because never fucking touch my phone And he got slaughtered In the many months that we've been with Adam sauce. I have not seen Chris Humphrey's not one

Freaking Coming He'll be here. He'll be here. He's gonna come. Yeah Anyway, it's a very sensitive topic, but it's at least we're talking about it So respect to what you're doing at least making it something Dude, Caitlin Jenner's got one of the greatest quotes of all time too after which she said in LA but it's at least we're talking about it. So respect to what you're doing, at least making it something. Caitlin Jenner's got one of the greatest quotes of all time, too, after which she said in LA,

it was easier to come out as transgender than was to come out as a Republican. Oh yeah. Oh wow. I would. I would. I mean, you get embraced and celebrated by, you know, the hyperwokeies for the former,

and you get denigrated for the latter. So it's not surprising, especially in California, gosh. Yeah. And it's actually shocking that you said that, because that's pretty ridiculous. That's what, it's her truth, by the way. Yeah, let me, let me, so it's not surprising, especially in California and gosh. That's actually shocking that you said that, because that's pretty ridiculous. That's what, it's her truth, by the way. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.

So for me, whoever you edify and lift up, people will do what that person is doing. So for example, in a sales company for us, whoever you, I'll always say, you give me the number one person of any company. I'll take a future to company next five to 10 years. Based on who the number one is, not who number two is. Who the number one is, meaning the base?

No, not CEO. The sales company, you got a thousand sales players. The sales, sales, sales, sales people, yeah. But whoever the number one is, anytime I chose the number one that was more about them than the team, the company collapsed. Every time. But if you chose the right number one is, any time I chose the number one that was more about them than the team, the company collapsed. Every time. But if you chose the right number one, the company exploded like Sao Paulo's.

They took the company hold it for level. We've had great number ones, Guy Tons, Sao Paulo's, we've had a lot of different number ones, right? And they're all great number ones because people want to be like, okay, can I get that kind of recognition? Yes, like we're about to go to- We're going to Vegas tomorrow, right? We're going to have 12,000 people. I'm on the phone last time with Mario Lopez because he's hosting awards ceremony, Nikki Jam, Sebastian Manna, it's got Mike Tyson.

It's gonna be pretty intensive and next week in Vegas for Holycat M. Jim Grant. But whoever your number one is, people are gonna duplicate. So now, you go back 50 years in America. Who was the hero in America 50 years? J.F.K. Okay, who's there? Yeah, I'm with that. Go go 50 years ago. It's

21, 1771. Oh, yeah, 1971. I was just dead. 1971. Who's a richest man in America 1971? Who was it? Who was it? Who was it? Call it up and see who was it? Was Leiaia Coker there? I don't know. 1971 is probably gonna be a... It has to be forward. It has to be somebody for... For those guys. Richest man in the world in 1971. It's a synatra with the man. Okay, so they go. Elvis was so think about that.

Sinatra, our Hughes. Our Hughes was one of them, Sam Walton. Yeah, our old dude was getting started. Daniel Ludwig, it's an interesting story. Okay, Sam Walton. Okay. Yeah, how are we doing? Walton was getting started. Daniel Ludwig, it's an interesting story. Okay, so keep going. Frank Sinatra, everybody wants to be like Frank.

Elvis. Okay, Elvis, you want to be like Elvis. Great. Who else did you want to be like? That's Clint Eastwood really getting into his day's day. John Wayne. Well, 71, the counter culture was really big too. You were starting to get, I mean, it was really big.

By the way, look at that. There there's Howard huge so you look at how it used is get jay Paul getty was prior to that okay okay I'm thinking that's one of the great chamberland kareem Abdul Jabbar perfect for rain the greatest independent hangar and called easy writer by Dennis hopper and and Peter fonda and jack Nicholson 1970 perfect jack Nicholson was a face of Hollywood at that was you one of the guys Peter fond the prize of 71 fair so this this was the Beatles were huge the Beatles were huge and 71 okay so if you're 18 if you're 14 to 18 years old and you're in high school oh my gosh bro

I'd love to be like in baseball it was so 71 to be basketball was Korean 71 baseball would be Aaron the end of man Karen Aaron yeah Aaron let's just say you're looking up to Mickey Maddy. You're looking up to Aaron, right? Oh, Mickey Maddy. Mickey Maddy, kid. So, these are the heroes we looked up to, right? At that time. So, kid is competing to be who, that person, okay?

Kid is trying to be like that person. Who's the hero today in America? LeBron James. Who else? Oh, that's one of them. Stop worrying. Give me some of the names. Heroes. Heroes. Who's the name? Oh, that's one of them. But give me some of the names. Heroes. Heroes.

Heroes. Who's someone say, Jane, someone say Obama. Okay. So let's say the rock. Go give the name. So let's just go through Obama. You said, no, Bronners.

You're talking Leo. You're talking. You think Leo's a hero. You think people look at Leo like they want to be like this? Yeah. People are doing it. Well, if you're talking about the 14 to 18, Adrian, you got to talk about YouTube. I was just about to say

14 to 18 yeah, yeah, so so let me ask you question. Let me go through different part here So in 1971 what is a man's man look like in 1971? So in 1971, what does a man's man look like in 1971? Manly. Get me who there is a Clint Eastwood man. Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, Frank Sinatra. You know, somebody like that was a man's man. And you wanted to be like a man's man in the 70s, right? Okay, what does a man's man look like today?

What is a man's man, is that even an insult to say man's man? What's a man's man? I think a man's man looks similar, but I don't know if a man's man is what's being pushed to the mainstream. It makes sense. It's a man's man likely to be on the cover of a Time magazine today. It's a man's man likely to be the hero today. It's a man's man likely to be someone we look up to today.

No, no, no. They're precisely the opposite. They're presented as like being somehow repressive of other people. Like, you know, if you somehow are working a lot and earning, you can't earn a good living for yourself without somehow oppressing somebody else. You know, yeah, you're literally call it toxic masculinity. So, okay, so let's talk about a rich person.

In 1971, if you were rich, did people want to know who the lives of rich and famous was? For sure. Robin Leach, the lifestyles of the rich and famous. Okay, so was cool to be rich in the 70s. What is it today to be rich? I talk about it all the time. What is the thing I hate most about our culture?

Is the repentant rich? But what I'm saying to you is, like, to date, not even the repentant rich. I'm talking, the 14 to 18 year old, does he look enough saying, dude, I admire these rich people. I want to be like them. Well, there was a study that came out,

a poll, they polled people under 21, their thoughts on capitalism versus socialism. It was like shocking. I think 54% said that capitalism was bad and 44% said that capitalism is good. So younger people are not advocates of capitalism. Yeah, but they both, I bet you most of the people taking that poll cannot define either of those.

And that was actually the part beat of that is that they actually asked the follow-up question like would you know the difference and I really no socialism sounds I mean the word sounds nice like rolls off the tongue nicely it's got the word social in it sounds great you know who doesn't like being social media capital sounds security yeah yeah but but again I think I think this is a we've we've forgotten who to hero is can I show you you a picture? We are identifying the wrong key roles so these kids have the wrong image of who to look up to

because I don't care who you admire, but I at least wanna have somebody I put up there to say, hey, one day, what if one day, you know, this is a man's man, this is an example of one day for us to be like. I'm gonna show you a picture, because it's a great point. It's a great point.

Can I pull this picture up? This is trending on social media, and it's basically, back in my day, this was not, now your generation has this now, exactly. So I see that, and it's like, it's freaking hilarious. Look, the original nows versus little nows as, listen, I actually, look,

there's, I have an interesting thought about this. You actually have that out. I have an interesting thought about this. See, a little nozzles. If you look at the people in the 1700s, 1800s, 1800s, 18th century, these are some of the toughest human beings on planet earth. And they dressed like that.

You know what I'm saying? That was the laws of shibori had to be invented because people would just mark in each other. It was like, say something wrong about me. And we'll have a duel. And I shoot you in the face. But I'd walk around looking like that. But then we'd kill each other over an argument. I think you would have loved it. we'll have a duel. And I shoot you in the face, but I'd walk around looking like that, but then we'd kill each other over an argument.

I think we need better heroes. Well, that's what I think we do. How about we just don't need to tear them down? How, we forget having better heroes, but it would be great. Can we just start by not tearing down the heroes that we already have? So, so, so, so, so,

so yesterday, this week I spoke to a guy named Kenny shoe Who wrote the book called the inconvenient minority and he talks about how there's this high school called the Thomas Jefferson high school It's a number one high school in America best grades kids come out there the 76% of the schoolization, okay? 70 70 nearly nearly 80% of it is a city is this a I don't know if you look it up He was talking about Thomas Jefferson High School. And then he talks about how in Harvard, out of all the applicants that submit their applications, they should accept 43% of Harvard should be Asian,

but only 21% is because they wanna make sure they're inclusive, the whole, you know, making sure we're accepting, discriminating against, they don't want too many Asians, they're because it's way too much. Out of 5.9% in America, Asian, our population is 5.9% Asian, 22% of Harvard, students are Asian, okay?

So out of only 5.9% to 22% of Harvard. So they're just completely rocking it, right? And, you know, he's talking about what's going on, why he didn't want to go to Harvard, et cetera. And then, yes, I talked to Eddie Gallagher, I don't know if you know Eddie Gallagher is Eddie Gallagher is he's the guy that was the Navy seal. He did eight tours, two bronze medals and he was seen with the video with one of the ISIS terrorists that they took the picture in the video and it went viral. He went to prison. You know, the story. You know, chief Eddie Gallagher, Navy seal. And then

Trump got him. He says, I don't I don't support what he did, but I think a man that put his life at, he's got to get out. And I said, tell me what it's like in a military. The military has something called the Navy, NCIS, okay. It's like the intelligence where they do research on you. I think it's literally a TV show called NCIS. Yeah, if you can pull out what NCIS means, and then there's CID. NCIS and CID are the same thing.

I said, what role does NCIS play? He says, he says, who runs NCIS? He says, well, it's the officers. And I said, okay. So why don't officers support what you're doing? He says, because, you know, for them, they don't like us. I want to Google that. I said, let me look up Navy seal. Because when you think about a man's band, what do you think about? You think about, if I told you right now, he's a Navy seal, what would you say? How would you look at him if I told you he's a Navy Silver? You're strong, masculine, brave, courageous. You look at him in a different way?

I'd look at him now, he's not a Navy Silver, he just goes to the beach a lot. But, you know, so, but if I said Navy Silver, you immediately judge him. So I looked up how many people are Navy Silver in America today? 2,500. How many active billionaires do we have in America today? Around the same number, 2,500.

Okay. He said NCIS hates anybody that makes it to the highest level, like Navy SEALs. So who writes about billionaires that they don't like them? You got regulators, like an Elizabeth Warren, you got some journalists that go after them. The CID and regulators, they're the same human beings. He said the most interesting thing to me yesterday because General Millie, I asked him about General Millie, I said,

what happened with General Millie talking about CRT and he was a general, like why is a general going out there defending some of these things being taught. He says because there's an interesting thing that you don't know about us. So what's that? He says in a military after 04 or 05 to get your promotion, Congress has to sign off on your promotion Let me say this one more time. So if you're a the politicians Politicians have to sign off if you become a colonel or a general one star general You need Congress to sign off on your promotion now interesting. This is Gallagher saying this to me on the podcast We did yes. He has a book that just came out called,

he's got a book coming out with the interview is going to come out here next week. So the point is the people who are not the man's man are in charge of building up who the man's man is. So up until that changes, we are never going to recognize who the man's man is. We are never going to recognize who the real heroes are. So the problem isn't that.

The problem is who's telling the world who the real heroes are. On a smaller level, a much smaller level than that. That's an incredible story. And also if we can find a crossover between the 2500 Navy Seals and the 2500 billionaires, we have that man. So if we find one, that's all we've found. But the interesting thing about what you're saying is there's actually a guy who listens to the show

Who is pushing back on that and that's Kurt Schilling Kurt Schilling whether you agree with him or don't agree with him Kurt Schilling is a very great American baseball pitcher bloody sock Bloody sock incredible competitor tough guy tough dude, but he made some You know our our our establishment, some questionable tweets while he's working for ESPN. And now he has requested to be taken off the Hall of Fame ballot. He's almost a lock to make it this year. And he's been requested to be taken off the ballot, but he does not want to give the writers

the, the, the ability to judge his career. You don't get to tell me whether or not I was a Hall of Famer. He'll wait the seven years until he goes tell me whether or not I was a Hall of Famer. He'll wait the Seven years until he goes to the veterans committee, which is a bunch of old players that select people that that haven't gone through the process And he's like I would rather wait and then have my peers put me in a Hall of Famers. I respect them and if they don't put me in that's fine But Zubi, who was your hero growing up? Honestly, some of your heroes. I'm here. I'm sure thing. I'll start with my parents, right?

Which is important. It's important to say my parents. A man who are my heroes growing up. He's the question right. Like, hello cool Jay. Okay. Yeah. LL cool Jay is bad as hell.

I like Arnie. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Really, okay. That's guy. Yeah. Growing up. I'm coming to his wall, but I want you to think about. I'm going to come to you next as well.

Yeah, I'm coming to you too. I'm like, I'm trying to think, I used to be really into wrestling. So I love the rock and stone cold. How old do you two be? I'm 34. Okay. Yeah, I was really into all those guys.

A lot of, I guess rappers to some extent, not in terms of like role models, you know, like my dad and my older brothers and family for that, but in terms of who were your rappers? Well, you're a nozz person, were you two five big T. Oh, you're 34, so tech nine, Andre, three, no the three no really really no

This is in the UK mob deep mob deep you were in the UK does not yeah I mean I wouldn't say like those people were like heroes percent He's some of the artists I know you know the question who did your dad admire? Who did your dad say this is a this is a who did your mom say oh my gosh this person here is Somebody that really made an impact. Who was that person to you? That's a big question. I, man, I need to ask my dad.

You're thinking about that. Are you guys also thinking about it? Absolutely. Who was it for you? By the way, folks, if you're watching this, I'm curious, like somebody said here, Jordan Tyson, Gretzki, Stallone, Arnold, List is Long. You know, these names that are coming up, you know, who was your hero? Who was your hero? Actually think about it. Who who was yours who was your hero as a kid growing

up you're 22 so I mean all the enough uh Steve Irwin the guy the animal guy yeah I cried like a baby when he died wow I don't know why like I loved watching his TV show yeah but he was one of the first people that when he died like I was I was not let, I was, now let me ask you, what's a you or did your mom and dad also love him in a moment? I think, I think I probably watched it mostly with my dad. There you go. Okay, so there was a connection with your dad.

So how about yourself? Who was, who was your, I had one guy. It was Isaiah Thomas from Detroit. Okay. I was obsessed with it. I was a point guard. I love my dad's from Detroit.

He went to University of Michigan. I loved Isaiah Thomas. And then the second person, it was more of a, not a person, but a thought process. I was obsessed with the Civil War. I loved the North. I loved Abraham Lincoln.

I saw the movie Glory with Dental Washington. I just sympathized with everything that was going on with that. And I just never understood the Confederacy. I was like, fuck them. How old were you? But very important, how old were you? I mean, I was a kid, 10 years old. That's crazy.

So watch, what's interesting that is, because now you kind of, we're learning about ourselves. Like, it's not every day we wake up. Who was my hero when I was a kid, right? Who was yours? Maybe a movie, Bob, you also want to a movie. Like for me, if you think Rocky IV to me, about what?

Rocky IV a few hundred times. And the whole part at the end when he says, at the beginning of this fight, you know, you didn't like, you know, all that and said, but if you can change, if you can change, if I can change anybody, can change, who is yours? I mean, first of all, my dad is not even close, the disparity between first and second and so,

so let's set that part aside as an unfair advantage. But Rocky would be one. Okay. What Rocky did. And you were an Iran at the point. I was an Iran at the point. I'd say Rocky's guys I would have to tell you Rocky maybe a top five growing up as a kid. I think Shah would be on that list. Before you came to the Rocky character. The Rocky character. Not so much. So when you were in Iran, question for you. You didn't have any ties to America, right? No, not at all.

But you saw this movie and you're like, damn, America, Rocky. Yeah, not at all. But because my ties are to Russia, exactly, even. My mother's side, they're all communist. So to them, they have ties to the communist and regime they escaped that to come.

But my mother still had affinity for them You know my mother won her name you Sasha we talked about this last week Sasha Your mother have rooted for Ivan Drago in that movie my mother would have Yes, she would have definitely rooted for Ivan Drago so so if you look at it says for me Yeah, I went for me and then you come to America and then you come to America and you think who your heroes I looked up to him when Michael Jordan retired I cry like a baby the magic got eight. I was devastated when two-pack died It was like frickin, you know best friend dying You know first president I shook hands with was

Clinton at Glendale when I was working out Hagen does and he just walked down like oh shit He rolled up the Hagen does I know he would now he was like Glendale Galleria Doing a campaign trail and he was walking a shaking hands. I put my hand out, he shook my hand. I'm like 14 years old. But the point is, who do we look up to? Who did Mom and Dad look up to?

My dad looked up Man's Man. Everything to my dad was a John Wayne. My dad was Clint Eastwood. So you're like, I want to be a Man's Man one day. Who was yours? It's a weird question for me, me man because I was brought up differently You know like I was brought up like hardcore, you know, New York You've told me you've told me before like you had very big admiration for Ron Jeremy

But I'm talking like Hero My dad was probably my hero, but he my dad was definitely my hero, but You know like I came home with a jersey on one day. He goes. Oh, yeah, you're gonna wear another man's name on your back Bronx tail that's tail Mickey Manor don't pay your rent. That's exact that is exactly how my father was my father's like Oh, you crying because the meds the meds lost. Okay, I got to go to work. Darryl, strawberry, and pain, you're going to go to bed. How do you feel about that? How do you feel about it?

Then how do you feel about it now? It changed the way I viewed. Like I didn't, like I was very, I think it helped me compete because it gave me an idea that these are just men. If they can do something, I can do something. You know, I really, like there's people like I admire their ability to do their profession, but I never really looked at them as like heroes. So other than your dad, there's nobody that comes to mind. Like, yeah, but I mean, there's like, as I would read and I'd read about, you know, historical

figures as you know, I'm very in the politics and history and like, I'd be like, this is a great man. This is a great man. This is a great man who did great things. But I never really like, I look at it almost as like, I could emulate them. Like this is somebody that I can do, if he did it this way, I can do this this way as well. Speaking of great men by the way, not to cut you off. Kai, I'm shocked, you didn't say Teddy Roosevelt.

Wait, then Churchill and Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt is a great man. Those were until later though. You were asking me to ask, by the way, here's what's interesting. Some of the young guys here that I'm looking at, a kid says David Goggins, great guy to look up to. Fantastic, because that's a qualified man's man, right?

E-C-E, mom may be a different story. Do we have to give him that? That Chuck Norris, that's right, Chuck Norris. I'll tell you what, it's something I've had to kind of unlearn as I got older older because the mentality becomes like, you see someone doing well and the initial reaction is, oh he ain't shit man, man, screw that guy. That hate her mentality. It's a hater, it's a 100% hater mentality.

Don't be a hater. What ends up happening to it is, it's cool, you're not a fanboy or nothing like that. Is that a part of Jersey culture or no, is that true? It's a choice that air is for sure. But there's also a part of it where you have to be willing and open to be like, you know what man, maybe this guy knows something, I don't know, let me, let me humble myself a little bit and let me try to learn in that moment, but it's

taking me a very long time to kind of unlearn that man. That's interesting. I don't need this dude. I must be a real cultural thing because I've never, I've never had that like I find I was like that kind of a hater reaction. But what is it you can't use it your family? That's a good quote. Probably more family. Probably more family.

Like, I mean, I was always brought up and I think just the way I'm wired to, you know, like admire and respect, you know, hard work and success and you ask what people would call a meritocracy, et cetera. It was never really sort of formally put to me that way, but that's how I always looked at it. I mean, even to this day, even I don't hate on anyone or anything, even with someone who I don't really like or I don't really like what they're doing or whatever,

if someone is successful in any way, shape, or form, there's always something that you can learn from that. Yeah. Always something that you can learn from that. Yeah. Always something that you can take away. You may not even, you know, some musician could blow up and you don't like their music, but you look into the story of, okay, how did they get there? And how did they do it? And you'll pick up something.

Even some of these, I don't know, people talk a lot these days about influencers. All these people on Instagram or TikTok or whatever. And you know, people criticize them because they're like, oh, that girl's just posting dumb dancing videos. And she's, but it's like, well, she's got 15 million followers. She's doing something.

Like Addison Ray. You can learn something from that. Like it doesn't matter who you are. You could be a business person. Absolutely. You can learn something. Statement to what you're saying to your parents. Tell us about your parents.

Stronger, were they Christians? Were they parents of Christian? Okay. So my parents are from Nigeria. Okay. So, you know, been married 40 plus years. Somewhat, a perfect combination between traditional values and also being open to the world and embracing new ideas.

So my dad's a medical doctor. My mom used to be a journalist. Now she works as a magistrate. And I've got, I'm the youngest of five kids. And just brought up well. I've got wonderful, wonderful parents, a wonderful family, which I think is the hugeest. You're very lucky, right?

Yeah, I think that's the biggest privilege that people do not talk about, let alone being born in this timeframe. Which is one of the things that the American left is really, really strong about wanting to kind of eliminate the family. No, privilege is a great thing. Like privilege is a great thing.

Like we think this inversion of privilege to be something you're supposed to be ashamed of and a tone for is totally insane. Right? Like if you have privileged, like take that and use it to your advantage and use it to help other people. There's nothing to be ashamed of. That's fantastic. Sometimes you forget just the values of how to raise a family. This guy came yesterday applying to be a CEO of a team and CEO of a team and he is from Bahrain, his worries from. And he talked about, we're talking about the crime levels

in Dubai, the conversation about Dubai. They don't have guns, there is no crime, no crime at all, but the family values and principles of how they raise their kids and what they do is so high, they value respect, marriage, relationship, all that so high that you don't get a lot of that. And sometimes when you said you lived in Saudi Arabia for a year, I lived in Saudi Arabia for 19 years.

For 19 years. That's right. That's a lot more than you're at it. Look at Saudi Arabia and then I really was getting along, right? Well, she has it as soon as they're doing it. I do want to clarify one thing if I can though, because I don't want, it's the wrong mentality to say

that I was brought up to be a hater Oh, yeah, no, no, no, I just I do want to clarify you didn't say that's like a Jersey thing But it's not like I can't really explain it if you if you didn't grow up in that area It's not jealousy and it's not hate. It's just like all right. Whatever. He's doing his own thing It's like I'm not gonna suck up to him to get his shit. Whatever. I'll do my own. I'm not gonna fanboy It's like it's like that is true that is New York Jersey But the other side of me shit No, but like it's an apathy towards it and like literally like if somebody would be like if

If if somebody would come home and like my sisters would go to a birthday party It didn't like cult snack at some like big house or something like that They come on maybe like you wouldn't believe the size like we had like this little tiny like above ground pool in a backyard And stuff like that now to my father's credit He grew up in an apartment complex like so having his own yard was he was living his dream no matter what was in it You know what I mean? So like now this other person so my sisters don't know any different they could come out And they're like well, they got this big pool and everything like that He's like hey good for them God bless, but you know just be careful because you know the the food they eat don't make you shit

So you know and then I have a question from Pat comparisons the thief of joy by the way what he's saying It's very powerful a lot of people are raised that way somebody said here Dean Martin That was one of the people we grew up with Paulette my sister was texting me we grew up to Jerry Lewis Wow, and Dean Martin that little John Wayne John Wayne. He loved Jerry lose Uh, Dean and Jerry. Yeah, well My dad loves John Wayne. John Wayne, he loves. Jerry Lewis, Dean and Jerry. Well, comparison is the thief of joy.

It's the last thing you said, which is actually true. So sometimes, like, I'm actually a pretty, yo, respect, bro, like I, but I'll find myself hating sometimes. Right? I think it happens, right? Like, quite candidly. And then when I find myself hating on someone,

I'll say, hold on. Why am I hating on this person? And oftentimes it's because they're doing something that I wanna be doing, or I think I can be doing. So I'll catch myself and say, all right, rather than hating, I ain't shit, just be like, all right, cool, recognize that that's something that you actually respect and you wanna do,

and just pursue that, rather than hate on him because he's doing that. That's the way you actually respect and you want to do and just pursue that rather than hate on him because he's doing that. That's the way to do it. But I think that you can't, if any kids are like listen to this, I don't want to say kids, like late teenagers early 20s, like that's maturity. Like that is what you grow into. That's not something you're an incredibly impressive human being if you're coming to that mentality in your late teens early 20s.

Like a lot of us have to burn bridges, make mistakes, and be like, wake up in the morning with the regrets, and be like, damn, I wish I didn't do it like that. And then use those, you know, use those scabs and those scars to build a new person, you know what I mean? And so, my question for PBD, do you ever find yourself hating on anybody

and catch yourself? Because obviously you're not a hater. You're very big on edifying. Like, there's, I never hear hear you being like I ain't shit. I've never heard you say like he ain't nothing whatever But you ever find yourself in like well, you know, you know No, I listen I I believe in Doug which is we talk about this. I believe in diffuse unified glue I believe in diffuse unified glue if you can diffuse issues between you and Adam, you and Gerard, and then we unify, we then have glue.

But don't you remember, I'm a pretty competitive guy like the competition, I like sports. But I'm not a fan of manipulators at all. Like listen, I have, I'm allergic to manipulators. I'm allergic to bullies. I'm allergic to those I wanna play games. That, I don't know if you call it, hey, don't, I'll call that out.

Yeah, that's the no. I'm not, I'm not for that at all But man if you're winning and killing it in the game more power to your whole thing is salute Let me put it to this way like even the other day You know tie Lopez you don't hear the name tie Lopez a lot lately What tie Lopez four or five years ago was here my garage, you know everybody was hating on the guy here This is that right? Yeah. Today, you know, I saw his post here the day. The guy looks chiseled, the guy looks amazing.

He looks fully happy what he's doing. He's not creating content anymore, but you know, he's buying something. He's buying something. He's buying something. I'm very excited for the guy what he's doing. Yesterday, you know me, last week, you know me, part called me, she says, Pat, you won't even believe what happened. I said, what's that?

I got a call from Joe Rogan. I said, I see you everywhere. She says, I'm gonna be on Rogan what happened. I said, what's that? I got a call from Joe Rogan. I said, I see you everywhere. She says, I'm gonna be on Rogan next week. I say, you have no idea, happy. I'm gonna tell him that the fact that all this stuff happened after my interview with you on YouTube, because she got like four million views, and then she went out Jordan Peterson, everybody, right?

I said, that's fantastic, that's great. And then she was on Rogan, she posted it, and it's been all over the news that this was one of Rogan's best interviews ever, what other he's been. He's gonna be on Rogan's show. yeah yeah but he's been on you've been on Rogan's own before I'll be on again 17th of August yeah so so you see what Rogan's doing Rogan's freaking killing you can't do not you can't by the way here's even crazier thing Chris Coman and Dr. Comal what did I say about them when the brothers were going back

and forth what did I say when they were doing a show together oh you love them initially you said this is great This is their own reality. Because what it made me think about is all I think about when I saw that exchange is what Thanksgiving was when these guys were in their teenage years with their mom and dad. All I thought about is the dad. That's all I thought about. All I thought about is what kind of a smack talking, competitive environment that family was raised on. That's all I think about. I don't go to any other area. But yeah, if you're playing games,

you're manipulating, you're dividing, not a fan of you. Remember, Mario Cuomo, by the way, was a stud baseball player. And he actually got signed for more money by the Yankees than Mickey Manel. He was a bust, but he actually got signed for more money. Really? Great story.

That was his initial point. By the Cuomo, what do you think my one... Oh, okay, I kind you think my one- Oh. Okay, I kind of saw this one coming. Help us out here, Sam. Pat's been working out. I have a few guys. That's on you, Phil.

I mean, that's, you know- Someone help us out here. Tell me this. Tell me to store with Cuomo right now. So you got a couple things that's going on. Let's transition into that. Okay. So on one end, you're seeing the story about how, you know,

11 women are coming out. Okay. Well, first of all, Zubi, do you know who Andrew Cuomo is? Yeah, the governor of New York, right? Yes, yes. So you hear stories about his stuff is coming out. Not his stuff is coming out, but his stories are coming out with 11 women.

But his stuff is coming out, that's definitely. But 11 women are, so then the other day, the awkward moment where the transition from Chris Cuomo to Don Lamont and Don says, brother, I love you. You know, Chris, today we're going to talk about the governor in New York, which was like, and it's split second, which was calculated quickly, kind of awkward. But what should have happened to Andrew? Should Biden's telling him he should step down? Should he step down?

Dude, he should step down. I just think it's amazing that this is what people are grasping onto rather than the fact that he put basically human time bombs into nursing homes in New York. He's leading to thousands upon thousands of unnecessary deaths through his policies of putting people who tested positive with COVID back into nursing homes. Somehow people like completely gloss over this one.

And out of the two, out of the two sins committed, I think that one is the more serious one than it's not diminishing how he's behaved towards women, et cetera, allegedly I don't know all the details of that, but it amazes me that we're living in a society where that one is considered, we can gloss over that first thing, and that's one that, you know, might bring that down. So you think he should step down?

Absolutely. He should have stepped down. I mean, he killed 50,000 people. That last year when he was accepting what he got in the award, we all know that's not going to happen. So we all know that's not going to happen. I don't think he's going to. He wrote a best selling book. What I'm saying to you is all of that, what you're saying, that's not going to happen. He's not going to step down because of the nursing home. That's not gonna happen

I'm talking about should he step down for these Allegations not allegations investigation that comes up. I'll just read it to you Biden calls a coma to quit After damning sexual harassment report the Guardian reports Joe Biden has led the calls from both parties for New York Governor Andrew coma to resign after an investigation New York to Andrew Cuomo to resign, after an investigation, New York Attorney General T.J. Amville, the results of investigation on Tuesday shows that Cuomo engaged in unwanted, groping, kissing, and hugging, and made inappropriate comments to multiple women.

I think he should resign, said the president. So it's not like, you know, your sitting, Kenan asked about Cuomo's attempt to defend himself by using an image in which he's making physical contact with Biden himself. The president said, look, I'm not going to fly spec this. I'm sure there were some embraces that were totally innocent, but apparently the attorney general decided

that there were things going on. So if he blamed his Italian heritage, I'm Italian with little hands. Shh, come on. But on this, on the premise, on the story of 11, should he resign based on that? I lean to a yes, Adam. Look, there's a lot of people that are asked to step down.

Some people do, some people don't. I mean, would do I think he's gonna step down? No, I think you should. You should, do you think he should? Okay, so they didn't, what they're asking you to step down for are these harassment claims? Hear you on that, bro.

Like everything he did with the nursing homes, I don't live in New York, so I'm not following all that much. But there is something called due process. I mean, if these accusers are not lying, he does have to deserve his time in court. I'm not a Cuomo guy or an anti-Quomo guy. You know, I'm not-

Should he resign because of this? Because of this, sir. I don't think because of this because I don't think he should resign I don't think he will resign But if the facts come out that he did do this, fuck yeah, no the facts did come out this So that's what they're saying not in accord a law though, so if I am in the president is asking you to resign He's a democrat. It's not like a republicans calling out a democrat a democrat is not a political You talking to a democrat on a Democrat to resign. Yes, that's not square.

This is exactly what a lot of the news are about. It is a Democrat, it is a Democrat. That's like Trump asking DeSantis to resign. And would DeSantis resign? No, Trump told them. If Trump asked to resign, if DeSantis had some like this, the amount of pressures would be for him to have to resign. Well, you brought that up.

How many people when speaking of grouping asked Trump to drop out of the race when that Billy Bush, yeah, you know, I get what can he say? Like, you said, grab him in the push. I'm asking you. They said it drop out. He when he race and he becomes a president, I think that's very, I think that's very different. How is it different? I think that's very different because that would be like, first of all, that table's from like the 90s, right?

That was not, no, not in the 90s. It was from way, right? That was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not it was a locker room talk. 2010, 2010, yeah. So long time. Yeah, but but but but but that's a private conversation. The conversation I have with Caroline before this started was let's be real men, women, people, we've all had conversations in private that you wouldn't want someone that you wouldn't want to come out to to the to the public, right? He wasn't president at the time. He was a private conversation. And you know, conversation I would draw.

Yeah, exactly, right? You wouldn't want that coming out there. People make jokes, whatever. So, you know, and yeah, so that's a different thing to actually like physically, groping people. And was that done while that's done while Cuomo was governor, right?

Yes. Am I correct? Yes. Yes, correct. So it's totally different. You're talking about a physical act and you're talking about. I'm talking about the fact that he was asked to resign. I don't think Cuomo should resign because Biden said he should. Right?

I think what he actually has done, if, again, allegedly, if he did it and he's got that guilty conscience and he's like, you know what, like, I screwed up. Then yeah, I think, I think, is there a worse word to have attached to your name than allegedly? Yeah. Allegedly, he donates all his money to charity. It never says, it's always like, allegedly, is there was some growth? Here's a question, though.

Here's a question, though. Go ahead. Well, next five moves, right? We're not asking the right questions, frankly. Why you thought, you said it's rare for a Democrat to tell another Democrat. It isn't. It isn't because what is never going to happen in New York? What will never happen in New York state right now? Tell us. Will a Republican ever be elected either mayor of New York City or governor of New York state? I think so. Let's not say never.

I think so. Not it was there. I mean, it's not not in this environment and not right now. We're talking 20, 25 years. I think the. I think so. Not in this environment and not right now. We're talking 20, 25 years ago. I think the best ideas always wins. This is the people are sick of the wokeness. Trust me. Trust me. Trust me on this. Trust the jersey guy.

Just trust me. They would not be doing this if they thought there was any chance of them losing the gubernatorial bid. All right. They're going to take out Cuomo who has tried to sprint left with his rhetoric but is actually a pretty moderate dude yeah and why because they want to push further left the the epicenter of the far left progressive movement justice democrats in particular is Brooklyn New York that they've Brooklyn New York and they have

LA and and like like a cancerous cell they are spreading from there. So right now you have Yang and you have AOC. AOC can moonwalk into the into the the mayor of New York. She polls incredibly popular. And Yang is not polling well and they want Yang. Yang would poll well as the governor. So the progressive wing of the party can get a two for one. This is what I told you was gonna happen. The Democrats are not worried about Republicans because Republicans have no fight in them and they've given up on these areas. They have no fight whatsoever. They're not going after New York.

They're solidifying the areas that they have. So now the Democrats are cow-towing to the far left progressive wing of the party and the far left progressive wing of the party is going after Cuomo. So if Cuomo is not going to resign, what Cuomo needs to do is push back. And he needs to immediately say, hey Joe Biden, that's an interesting thing you think I should resign.

What happened to that woman that you use as a bowling ball that you ended up deciding, you know, that nobody needs to know about that? We're worried about Trump talking about grabbing a woman by the kitty. You were actually accused of doing it in the halls and she was your intern and somehow some way she disappeared on the campaign trail. Somehow some way she went away. Why don't you resign, Uncle Joe? Why don't you take Corn Pop and go down the Delaware and braid your leg here? Now I'm gonna stay right here. All right until you resign first and then I got a define. I'm going to go down the Delaware and brave your leg hair.

And then, we're all needs corn pop. Corn pop. Corn pop was a bad dude. It's all in, boy. Then you got, Cuomo needs to then immediately turn hard against the left side of the party.

And that is how he can redefine himself. Can we really want to do it? Can we just, we need to just defund all of these politicians, man. Slingshot about the subject. I don't know, again, not from New York. But who just allegedly won the, allegedly, the mayor of New York City race. It was a black conservative former,

who's winning the mayor of New York City that is build a Blasio? But there's a new, there's a new race going on right. Yeah, but it's not till next year. But the Blasio is going out right there. Who's the guy that's the guy that's the way? By the way, let me ask you. He's a former police officer. Gerard left.

If he's a result of the police officer, if he resides, who takes over? If who resides? If if if a government of former resans who takes over, uh, would be his, um, uh, the assistant, it's not the attorney general. They, they have a weird succession they don't have an assistant can you pull up who who takes over of comah resigns kai just go google that real quick who takes over by the way is it ironic that the governors of this

was his fourth term by the way they have no st i think that the governor of new york and the governor of california are both being asked to recall who's cathie hopeful cathie h o c h u l she's the next in line in case he was to resign now tell you somebody who said her name cathie hopeful see who that is

christ christie she should have resigned after bridge gate and then that would have given him the dog on a fighting chance against film murder right there's a people of new Look at the these eight years of horror. Film merch is an American law. You the ultimate look ahead. So from the bucktooth Goldman Sachs Boston as the first. She'll be the first female governor in New York State. So she'll have that as a county clerk.

I was one of the two thousand and seven in Congress. She was assumed her seat in Congress. Previously she was a deputy county clerk. Interesting. So she would take over if Cuomo was to resign. By the way, Andrew Cuomo's team, since you're watching this, we have reached out to you multiple times for an interview request, multiple times. If you could just respond to us one time, that would be fantastic. Really appreciate you. And what we reshotted them is a special project that will be announced here soon, that may, We reshotted him as a special project that will be announced here soon that may

May do pretty good. I don't know if you We can reveal any of it, but may do something special here when it's When it's launched. Anyways, okay, so Cuomo you're saying yes, you're saying no. You're saying he's not going to You're saying he should and you're saying he should your strategy actually is pretty. Yeah, that was a pretty interesting The follow- up story that he sounds like a needy boy friend. Like please come back to New York. Please let me read that story as well. I just don't the two don't go together. Hey, people live in New York city by choice, but anyway, I don't think you're not a fan of New York city.

Bro, I left. I left. You spent time in New York. It's Jersey in New York tattooed on my own. I love New York city. And I'm going. But I love visiting New York city. I'll say yeah, visiting city.

I love it. Visiting is love visiting New York City. I'll say this is the best city. Yeah, visiting city. I love it. Visiting's one thing, but... Living there is different. There are certain places people live, and I'm like, man, if you can get out why are you still there? You lived in Saudi Arabia for 19 years,

and you say that? Oh my God! You'd rather live in Saudi Arabia than New York. You guys don't have a clue. No? You really? Really? No.

The fact that you're in the fact that you're in Saudi Arabia Like how the fact you compare I'm like dude like shut up Saudi Arabia or New York City bro enlightened me because I'm like Please go visit we're living in a peace talk about for people don't know wait let them talk about No, that's about Saudi Arabia. What is the like living there? Like living there, like in like an ex-bat community, bro.

Like you're talking zero crime, right? You're talking zero taxes. You're talking amazing amenities, fantastic infrastructure, incredible communities, fantastic schools. The company you work for, paying for your child's education, up to college level. the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies,

the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, the companies, has no taxes. Period. Okay. The infrastructure around the C's, even if you're talking Riojana, et cetera. It's excellent. Very extraordinarily low crime rates. Like you are you are safer in any Saudi city than you are in any major city in the US by miles, not even not even comparable by miles. Do you live under the same laws? Is there? Are they like where the women in your

family forced to be? Sharia Law, which law are you talking about? Well, my understanding of Saudi Arabia is that there are repressive cultural laws about what you can wear, what you can say, what you can post. You know, there is no liquor there, right? It's not the alcohol-holfery.

Yeah, alcohol-holfery. I'm out, I'm out, bro. Alcohol-holfery, yeah, if that's a big thing for you then. The women specifically, do they have to wear the Hajibe? So the Hajibe. So it depends, so stuff is also all changed. So I left Saudi in 2008. So things have actually changed quite significantly

from what I understand over the past decade. Because women can drive now. Apparently, I mean, can drive now, yes. It's a big deal. That is a big deal. They couldn't drive until now. No, they know 2016. Well, there was just a story recently of women

who snuck in to watch a soccer game and I think were stoned to death though, so In Saudi yeah Okay, you have please verify that one because that that sounds sketch okay, but there you got admit it sounds awesome Women don't have it easy in Saudi Arabia look look you're not the you're not the tourism bureau of Saudi Saudi Arabia. Look, look, you're not the, you're not the tourism bureau of Saudi Arabia. I'm not the type that I've been there, but I mean, I'm just trying to understand. Yeah, that's why I'm laughing, because I'm like, when did you go, right? I lived there for 19 years, so Saudi is a country that can be called up there.

I grew up in Saudi Arabia, dude. I went to school there until I was, I would have stayed, I mean, I went to boarding school from the age of 11 back in the UK, so I was back and forth between the two countries from 11 to 20. But, you know, where I grew up, it's why I don't sound British, right? Because a lot of people I grew up with were American. I grew up in an extraordinarily diverse community, people from all over the world, most my teachers were American. I was in the American school system from preschool up until fifth grade, in fact.

Interesting. And then I switched over to the British. So Saudi is a man on every level. It's a gigantically misunderstood country in a lot of ways. So obviously as an expat, you have a certain experience which is, have you been in Dubai? I have, yes. Okay, you've been in Dubai.

So closer to that than like some, it's not, Saudi Arabia is not Iran, just so you know, it's not. And by the way, keep this in mind. When he's saying are you then Saudi Arabia? Yeah, yeah, yeah, by my mouth. It's not even close.

No, people can inflate them. Yeah, but Kai, can you pull out what I just sent you? 10 questions about expat life in Saudi Arabia answered this one website. Okay, interesting. And one of the things that if you can pull that up Kai, it's actually pretty interesting. What it talks about how women flirt with men like dating life in Saudi Arabia. Gold way down.

So one thing for Gerard, it was in Iran. It was in Iran. Yeah, I did keep going down. Keep going down. You can't play them. Except press, press, accept. Okay, keep going down. What's up, guys?

Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Family values. Keep going. Keep going. The lower. It's about to come up here. So they can go to the kitchen. The lore, the lore, right there, dating etiquette.

First dates must be low key affairs. If you live in the same compound or can let them into yours, you will likely spend your first date at the movies or the compounds restaurant at most likely society rules don't apply within the compound. This is great, relaxed option for couple of some restaurants and big cities also offer private cabins

and are lax about letting genders mix within their establishment asking around your expats circles is a good way to discover state-dates spots. Okay. So extremely conservative many dating a local many young Saudis now flirt more openly on apps such as Facebook Tinder Snapchat and and who share. However, women in particular may still shy away from sending photos over messaging apps for fear of family or percussion snapchat is popular and as a woman you may well be asked

Moment mom can snapchat literally snapchat possible you may also be so dating is it the go-little orkai Go-little ork to see what us can Saudis marry foreigners over 700,000 Saudi women 10% of all married Saudi women are all Because I was foreign, has no, no corresponding figures are available for Saudi men married to non-nationalists. So if it's a Saudi spouse you're looking for, there is hope.

Arrange marriages, marriages are still often arranged between conservative families, LGBT relationship homosexuality, transgender individuals moving to Saudi Arabia should be aware that it is illegal for men to act and dress like women and vice versa. Homosexuality activities also against the law and attracts the death penalty. Whoa!

That said, same-sex men and women, may find it easier to meet and socialize with potential partners, but they say what is like to work in Saudi Arabia. So only Muslims can marry in Saudi Arabia, therefore, ex-pat couples of other faiths need to wed outside the country. Well, are you, are you, are you Muslim? No, I'm Christian. Christian. Okay.

Yeah. So why did you leave there? Why did you leave? You retire at 60 there. So my dad reached 60 and the company he worked for, you retire at 60. And so by the way, if you do the math, if you do the math, so this whole thing about, well, why can't, why don't they need taxes?

Why don't they tax anybody? Oil money. Okay, they got, they got the next, it's like Dubai doesn't tax you, right? An unemployment is nothing. But save data and tax corporations. That money goes to corporations. What's the big deal of corporations

pay for kids college education? Nothing, we can afford it. What's the big deal of corporations pay for your health insurance? Nothing, they can afford it. What's the big deal of corporations paid for your health insurance? Nothing, they can afford it. What's the big deal? You know what companies can do if they didn't pay taxes?

Saudi Aramco. One of the biggest companies in the world. Two and a half trillion auto company in the world. Yeah, so I'll explain. So with the expat thing, so Saudi Aramco, so when I grew up there, this is from the 80s to the 90s, early thousands, so a company like Saudi or Amco, they basically have their own towns. So everyone where I lived worked with the same company.

And they have like four or five of those, like dotted around. So they're called camps, which I think was mentioned in the ad-art. Well, that's a little bit of a rollback to the industrial revolution. Yeah, so it's weird. I mean, even me being in the UK, I mean, it was weird when I went to Houston and even parts of Miami, et cetera, it's weird because it looks like this place looks more like Saudi

than it looks like England. Right, so when I was in Houston, I was like, whoa, it looks like Saudi. Because of the refineries and all that or because of the company. Just everything, the way everything is laid out. Yeah, it's beautiful. If you pull up Saudi Arabia and put up pictures,

the buildings, the structures are beautiful. How old were you when you left Saudi? 20. 20. Did you have a girlfriend? In the UK, yeah. But in Saudi, did you have a girlfriend there? Not in Saudi, no, not inside.

So I went to boarding school from 11. So I was in boarding school and then in university from 11 to 20 in the UK So the first time you had a girlfriend held were you 15? 15. Yeah, but that was in Saudi. I know this was in England in boarding school in boarding school in England Yeah, how was time so you were literally going back and forth between the two countries? So you were going to boarding school? Yeah, so so during term so during term time I'm in England and then during the vacations I'm back how many months here are you in Saudi?

During that period. Yeah How much how much vacation time is there I know for five months for five months to you're in Saudi the rest of the time you're in born in school and you can Yeah, what is I believe it's called Hogwarts in He's a he's an oil they did they do did film Harry Potter and partially in my university, of course. Is that right? Yeah, an Oxford. No way. Yeah, I think what is it?

Christchurch College, I think. You went to Oxford. How was Oxford? How was Oxford? Oxford was cool, man. It was cool. Is it what is is it the Harvard of, you know, is it? It's best.

Yeah, it's a lot of Oxford. Sellers an Oxford. Well, it's the oldest university in the world I've been. Okay. I hate, first of all, actually hate Ivy League. It leads though, but please go on. That's all right.

I like you up to now. It's not Ivy League. It's not Ivy League. That's not a thing in the UK. Yeah, I mean Oxford and Cambridge are, you know, for decades have been the best, if not centuries, been two of the best universities in the entire world. Certainly the top two in the UK.

My study computer science, which was, I didn't love my subject. I didn't love my subject, but Oxford itself has a city, have you ever been to Oxford? No. The city is beautiful. Absolutely beautiful city. The architecture is mind-blowing, incredible. How far is it from London?

Is it only an hour and a half? Oh, okay. Yeah, how about 90 miles or something like that? So it's at a party town with students because of schools there. There's two universities. So there's Oxford, and then or something like that. So it's at a party town with students because the school's there. There's two universities. So there's Oxford and then there's Oxford Brooks.

So it's quite a student-oriented place. It's quite a student-oriented place, but it's an Oxford's a fantastic city. It's one of my probably top five cities in the UK and I've been to all of them. But yeah, it's a great place. Obviously, you know, hyper academic incredibly surrounded by incredibly smart people all the

time, which means you're always having great conversations. And it's good. You know, when you're surrounded by people who inspire you in some way, shape, or form, there's a lot of value in that. And when you're somewhere with so much history and later, I mean, I think my college in Oxford was built in the 1200s. Wow. Did it in CS, go to Oxford?

Well, CS lose, he went to Oxford, he taught at Oxford. I'm not sure. I'm not certain. There's a movie about CS lose. His story is, and I think he used to go, can you pull up CS lose profile? Is that the road scholars, is that Oxford? Yeah, yeah, Oxford has road scholars, so you get it.

So Oxford is more like a Boston. Yeah, he went to Oxford. He's he's on the end game. Yeah, he had academic history. I don't have you seen his movie put out CS Lewis movie. You ever seen his movie? I haven't. Oh my gosh. I highly recommend anybody to watch it. It's not a story of a not on not those movies. The story of a life story movie. I typed that there's a movie that you know who plays it, Anthony Hopkins plays it. There you go, Shadowlands. If you've never seen this movie, it is absolutely fascinating how interesting of a human being this guy was. From going and being an atheist to writing, mirror Christianity, to divorce letters, I think he wrote, divorce letters, screw tape letters. Maybe one of the greatest authors of all time on the stuff that he wrote.

And he would go to Oxford and they would debate. To hear those debates that he would have with all these other scholars and professors and educators, was it a big debate type of school? Were you guys always, was it a debate format? Is that how you guys learned? Not like for typical learning, not for typical learning, but there's the Oxford Union, which you may have heard of where they bring in speakers

and they have, you know, there's debate societies and stuff like that. Were you ever a part of it or no? Because- No, I was never personally a part of it. I wasn't personally a part of it. I was kind of- I can see you doing good at that. I can see you actually doing good at the- That's how you debate.

Did your philosophy, did your kind of libertarian philosophy I can see you doing good at that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see you actually doing good at the, the bait part. That's how you debate. Yeah. Did your philosophy, did your, did your kind of libertarian philosophy originate there in Oxford? Has that come later in life? Because I'm wondering here between the Saudi upbringing, and it could be my, my, my misunderstanding of Saudi culture. Sure. And in Oxford, it would, it would seem that your,

uh, your belief system, although at least as it, as it's presented through social media, seems to kind of be in, it doesn't converge with what your upbringing should be, right? Is that you seem to have come from a very controlled environment and now you seem to promote a lot of personal freedom. I didn't come from a super controlled environment, not in my household nor in, so Saudi's interesting because, something that's interesting to know is that

what people call the left right political spectrum doesn't apply globally. What doesn't apply anymore? It's like a 15th century French thing. Yeah, but if you talk to people in most of Europe or in the US, it's always the left and the right and you know Democrats were probably talking about this early, right? So so like I said somewhere like Saudi It's ultra conservative on certain things sort of in the middle on certain things and actually sort of you know very

It's a combination of all. First of all. It's a monarchy, right? So there are no political parties. What's the liberal part of Saudi Arabia? This is what I mean, right? There's no wings, like there's not even wings. What are they liberal on? Okay, so what I mean is, okay, look at the things some people in the US, what do you, what do US progressives want? They want free healthcare. Saudi has that. They want free schooling. Saudi has that. They even want some of the extreme. The far lefties want free university.

Saudi has that. Okay, God. Right. What do libertarians want? Libertarians want no taxes, because taxation is theft. Saudi has that. Right. Why are you living in UK?

Why don't you go live there? I don't read. As far as I'm concerned, I've left the UK. Oh, so you're not what? I don't know. I'm a global. International. I'm a global nomad.

After the past year and a half, I was like, you know, I'm done with a globalist. I'm not a globalist. You're living anywhere and everywhere. I don't know. I'm in the US for the next three months. Beyond that, we we shall see. I mean, I do. I feel that on such that this is what you and I always have our heated discussions about dude. You don't know what it's like to have corrupt politicians steal your home from you. They steal your home. And then you have to then adjust, because if you don't adjust, then you're gonna become a criminal.

And that's, you know, so they've literally, I'm sure you didn't wanna leave your home, but they've made it an untenable situation. Yeah, man, the UK is a, yeah, I feel sad. Like I was gonna end up leaving the UK anyway, because my audience in the US is much bigger, you know, more opportunities here, etc. So, you know, I could gonna end up leaving the UK anyway, because my audience in the US is much bigger, you know, more opportunities here, et cetera.

So, you know, I could well end up living in Florida, Texas, et cetera, once I get my visa. But, you know, for me right now, unfortunately, I'm location independent with my business and everything I do, so I'm not tied to any particular city or country, which is wonderful. So, you know, as far as I'm concerned,

I'm kind of flexible right now, but I'm very disillusioned with the UK now, which makes me sad, because I do love the country. Are you leaning towards anywhere? Are you leaning towards where you wanna live, or not at all? If it's in the US, probably Florida, Texas, or Tennessee, outside the US, you know, I'm a big fan of Central

in Eastern Europe. I like Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Romania, places like that. Thoughts on Norway, by the way. Thoughts on Norway. I've never been there. So you gotta go. I haven't been in Norway myself.

I haven't been in Norway myself. I've heard that Singapore. Singapore, I don't know. I've heard that Singapore has been terrible throughout all this. Singapore is another weird one, because it's very authoritarian, but it's also very free market. Like in cases? Yeah, it's weird. You know, it's another one I think sort of like.

Who do you interview that has been Singapore? The crypto billionaire that bought people's every day for $6,000. It was a name card. And he swears by Singapore. He swears by what it's like to live in Singapore. Singapore, it's a swearing. So what do you consider home at this point? What's all wrong?

Any old teller? Any old teller. Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, in terms of where I'm from, is always a weird question, because I'm literally a British Nigerian who grew up in Saudi Arabia and went to an American school. And does not have a British accent?

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. And has quite a lot of, you know, American values. Like I always get told, man, you'll be your more American than most Americans, right? And my, you know, I don't like any political party, but I'm more of a Republican than I am a Tory, right? In terms of my actual views on stuff. And that's

pretty rare in the UK. And I think that's from me not growing up there living it's out of your ABS. So with me, you know, I mean, like there's there's there's pro one thing I've really learned, you know, I've traveled to, I know about 36 countries and had heavy exposure to all these different cultures we've mentioned. And with me, one thing I've really learned is, you know, there's pros and cons to all different cultures and political systems and ways of doing things. It's not just one thing I think a lot in the West is people kind of have this, okay,

this is the one way of doing things. This is how we do it and everything we do is the best way of doing it. And I'm like, no, some things are, right? There's lots of stuff. So we America's number one, but we're number one. Yeah, well people say that, but then they haven't often been anywhere else, right?

Well Daniel Tosca, the thing is like, people hate us because we keep saying we're number one. The terrorists don't like it, just say we're top 10. Top 10. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're top 10, all right, that's fine. Pepe, any question for you? You kind of a similar story. I mean, you've been all over the world, you've traveled.

What do you consider home? Oh, listen, it's born in Iran made in America. Oh, I've heard that. I've heard that. It's not. Oh, I've heard that. It's not. It's not.

Oh, I've heard that. It's not. It's not. Oh, I've heard that. It's not. It's not. Oh, I've heard that. It's not.

It's not. Oh, I've heard that. It's not. It's not. Oh, I've heard that. It's not. It's not. It's not. I don't know, 50 countries, you know, with all the traveling we've done, but nothing comes close to this. Nothing comes close. You just think America is your home. If the ideas stay the same, nothing comes close to this. If the ideas don't stay the same, listen,

there's gonna be a lot of competition going on out there where people can take market share away from America today. If I was running another country, I would look at it right now, and I would be targeting creators, innovators, those who want to be left alone. I would be targeting them like you wouldn't even believe because in America what they could do is, a state like California, you know, they can

turn Texas into California. You know how they say, don't California my Florida? Don't California my Texas? Can you believe your politics back in California? But if you're in a different country, I can can just send 50,000 people on Greyhound to your place unless that country is America Yeah, unless if that country is America, but if I'm living in it if I'm in another country right now And I'm the president or prime minister. You got a lot of opportunity today You got a lot of I would be thinking about Getting those because today you can run a business from anywhere if you got if you got an internet you got zoom you can run it from anywhere. I'd be recruiting people like him. I'd be recruiting innovators like you would not believe. Non-stop today. So, but

yeah guys like that are out there. I mean a lot of people right now are similar towards Zubi's that what he's trying to think about where to live. We're not to live. Zubi's like a hot fridge. One of my friends in one of my friends in Quebec yesterday just sold all of his stuff and he's just like I'm done with Canada. I don't want to say. And it's sad he's, you know, he's from there. Probably people, Quebec Probecs specifically is insane right now.

There were people that weren't allowed in their back yards and their neighbors were calling the Mounties on them for going in their back yards. Like Australia, they got the army out now. Yeah, let's let's stay at home. Let's go into some of these other stories that we got here. Let's talk about journalists. So record number of journalists jailed worldwide.

This is committed to protect journalists. It's annual global survey. The committee to protect journalists found at least 274 journalists in jail in relation to their work on December 1st, 2020, exceeding the high of 272 in 2016. China, which arrested several journalists for their coverage on the pandemic was the world's worst jailer for second year in a row.

It was followed by Turkey, which continued to try journalists free on parole and arrest new ones, Egypt, which went to great lengths. You said Egypt, by the way, yesterday, to keep custody of journalists, not convicted of any crime. And then Saudi Arabia, which the story doesn't kind of help your story, Zubi. But there you go.

Saudi arrest journalists. It was not perfect. Okay, countries where the number of jail journalists rose significantly include Belarus, where mass protests have ensured over the disputed reelection of the long-time president, and Ethiopia, where political unrest has degenerated into armed conflict. Within the United States, no journalists were jailed at the time of CPJ prison censors. Oh, exactly. I can name two of them. Julian Assange, that was a no-one.

But an unprecedented 110 journalists were arrested or criminally charged in 2020 and around 300 were assaulted. The majority by law enforcement, according to the US press freedom tracker. So journalists, is it a good time to be a journalist or is it a bad time to be a journalist or is it just where you live? Dude, one we need journalists,

we don't have journalists anymore. We have political operatives that write for periodicals. We need actual people that are fact finders, that are intellectually curious, that are politically agnostic, or at least professional enough to keep their bias to their side and be objective in their reporting. One of the biggest problems that we have right now

in the country, and I will imagine in the world is we cannot operate on the same reality. Depending on where you're getting your information, you have a completely different understanding of the reality that we are living in. And it goes back to what you were talking about, the left versus the right. I described it as something called the horseshoe theory.

I don't know if you could pull it out. The horseshoe theory, okay. It's not left and right. It's the north and the south on the spectrum that matter more. The libertarian or the authoritarian. If you're conservative, if you have your ideas, that's fine. As long as there's no authoritarianism behind it, you don't force me into your conservative ideas, Sharia law, whatever.

Fascism. All right. If you're to the left and you believe in equality, equity, and a egalitarian society, okay, great. Present it. And if it's a. Okay, great. Present it. And if it's a good idea, people will follow it. If you force people into it, if you seize their property, communism, okay? So the further left and right you go, the closer those ideologies are, okay?

The further to the left you get away from the center, the further to the right you get away from the center, the closer they are. Communists and Nazis are much closer to each other than people in the center, the closer they are, communists and Nazis are much closer to each other than people in the center of the spectrum. People either to the right of the center, to the left of the center, have more in common. Okay? So that's what I ascribed it.

And what we have now is we have people who are making it their justifying bad behavior. Anybody's ever read Alexander Stolznić and the Gulag Archipelago, he talked about a hero. That book literally changed my life. It's a very dense book. That book changed my life because he talks about how quickly it changes.

And as soon as good men don't act evil wins every single day. And all that happens is it's, well, that journalist was, well, that journalist was a bad guy. Well, he deserves it. Or, well, you know, he shouldn't have written that. He knows what the rules. Why? Why?

What is so wrong with this guy writing something that you don't want the world to hear? Let the world hear it and let the ideas play out. You're repressing these people. It doesn't matter what your ideology is. It could have been Christianity in the 1600s. It could have been imperialism. It could have been communism. Whatever it is, as soon as you become authoritarian in the nature, you are in the 1600s, it could have been imperialism, it could have been communism, whatever it is. As soon as you become authoritarian in the nature,

you are in the wrong, it doesn't matter left or right. The problem is, the problem is that, well firstly, some people would disagree with that last sentence, which is part of the problem, right, because some people are very authoritarian. We've really seen that come to light in the past year and a half. They really do, they love authority.

Yeah, and another big problem is that a lot of people just don't actually have solid principles, right? And having principles means sometimes you have to defend people and ideas you don't like or at least the ability for them to be presented. Out there and be presented, right? So, I think AOC has terrible ideas.

I think a lot of ideas are terrible, but I would never want someone to be censored. So, look at the response to, come, gosh, I mean, I think people still downplay how significant this is. I mean, you're sitting president, got de-platformed from all of social media back in January.

So insane. Insane, right? And people, how do people justify, I don't like Trump, right? People let their emotions and their feelings, because they're not principled, right? A principled person, even if you despise Trump, you can be like, I despise Trump,

I think he's this, I think he's that. But he should be, not just because he's the president, but we're a free country, he should be allowed to express his ideas. He didn't break the law, he didn't, right? So, there's that, but because people allow like their personal biases and their feelings towards things to determine who should be allowed

to speak or what degree or whatever, that's always a problem. Because then people have different ideas and ideologies and belief systems. And as soon as you try to, like you said, when you try to force that on other people, a problem because then people have different ideas and ideologies and belief systems. And as soon as you try to, like you said, when you try to force that on other people, that becomes the issue. It's the same, you know, people understand it, I think, quite well with religion. Okay? So, you know, I'm a Christian, some people in Muslim, some people are atheists, Jewish, et cetera.

There's lots and lots of different religions and belief systems. And, you know, you can espouse your belief, you can believe what you want, et cetera. If I get on a horse and holding a Bible in one hand and assorted in the other, and I start wanting to go on some crusade to start converting non-believers, I think people will be like, no, you can't do that.

I don't want to strap myself with a suicide vest and start blowing people up, crashing planes into buildings, whatever, supposedly to spread, that's the problem, right? That's the line. So you can believe what you want, but if you're trying to force other people supposedly to spread that's the problem, right? That's the line. So you can believe what you want, but if you're trying to force other people

to believe what you believe based on force, that's the problem. It doesn't matter if it's political, if it's religious, whatever. About a year ago when this whole thing's taking place, you're in a half a go. I went up and I said, okay, how are parents judged?

Parents are judged based on what? Providing what? A roof over your head, feeding you, taking care of you. You know, raised on the behavior of children. Behaviour children, how your kids react in school. Okay, great. How is a coach for basketball team or football team judge? Whether they win or lose.

Whether you win or lose, you know, the playoffs, performance getting better, all of that. Okay. How is a coach of a college football team judge? How you, the parents wanting you to, wanting to recruit all that stuff right? How is a president judge? How is the CEO of a company judge?

How is the salesperson judge? Every one of us has judged. This podcast is judged based on what? If we lose viewers, what they're saying is, we don't like your topic. I'm going to another one. Screw you, great. We're judging on stop as you run a podcast.

Value team in this judge. If we don't do well, we don't grow up to topics. Not good. You do podcasts. If you don't give viewers, they don't like it. You did great. You do video gets 4 million views on Twitter. Guess what?

The audience saying, hey, Zubi, do more of these things. We want to hear from you, right? We're constantly judge. However, how are journalists judge? So I found this article and this article is Society of Professional Journalists, okay? How their judge is based on four things. Seek truth and report it, go to the next one. Minimize harm, okay?

Act independently, be accountable and transparent. That is the code of journalism. Go up, let me read a few of them. Go all the way up, go all the way up Kai and let me read some of these things here. So let's look at the first one here. Seek truth and report on it. Journalists should take responsibility for the accuracy of their work, verify information before releasing it. Okay, that would have already eliminated 80% of Daciae stories. We have an insider that's telling us on what is the word they use? Unknown sources that told us is a

Adam Schiff. I got news original sources whenever possible. Remember that neither speed nor format excuses inaccuracy. Oh boy Twitter. Provide context, take special care not to misrepresent or simplify and promoting previewing or summarizing the story. Gather, I like that. Gather, update, and correct information throughout the life of a new story. Gather, update, and correct, right? Be cautious when making promises, but keep the promises they make.

So far, so far, is anybody doing, left, right, or middle, is anybody doing this right now? Every single value tank needs to take this. Let me continue. We're gonna put the link for everybody, see this year. OK, so next, identify source clearly. The public is entitled to, as much information as possible, to judge the reliability and motivations of sources.

Next, consider sources, motives, before promising anonymity, reserve anonymity for sources who may face danger, retribution, or other harm. Fine. Dilligently seek subjects of news coverage to allow them to correspond to criticism or allegations of wrongdoing. Avoid undercover or other surreptitious methods

of gathering information unless traditional open methods will not yield information value to the public. And you see how this is going, right? Okay, go to the next one. Let me read the next one here. Avoid stereotyping. Go a little bit higher. Avoid stereotyping. Journalist should examine the ways their value. Avoid stereotyping, go a little bit higher, avoid stereotyping, journalistic examine the ways

their value experiences may shift, they're gonna never plagiarize always attribute. Okay, so that's that part, minimize harm. No, no, go up, go up, go up. This is the most important one. Label advocacy and commentary. Label advocacy and commentary. What does that mean to you?

That means stop presenting your opinion as fat. Fact, okay, minimize harm. Balance the public's need for information against potential harm or discomfort. Pursuit of the news is not a license for arrogance or undo intrusiveness. So 80% of them are fired. Okay. Erie, 80% of our fired. Okay. Show compassion for those who may be affected by news coverage. Okay, you as high sensitivity when dealing with juvenile's victims of sex crimes and source of subjects who are inexperienced or unable to give consent. Fine, recognize that legal access to information differs from an ethical justification to public or public broadcast.

Avoid pandering, to lurid curiosity, even if others do it. You realize none of this stuff, this is what they're held accountable to another judge i immediately go to the kid wearing the magahat who got painted as destroyed yeah they they want a lot of what you go now act independently kai go up act independent avoid conflicts of interest real or perceived disclosed unavoidable conflicts refuse gifts favors fees free travel and special treatment be wary of sources offering information for favors or money.

Deny favorite treatment to advertisers. Okay, that's definitely necessary. Well, that goes into your next story about the CCP. Yeah, let me continue here on the last one and we'll go into that story. Explain ethical choices and process to audiences. Respond quickly to questions about accuracy, clarity or fairness. Acknowledge mistakes and correct them promptly, expose unethical conduct and journalism, including within their organization,

abide by the same high standards they expect of others. By the way, that's journalism, okay. From 1926. Lots changed in 95 years. 20 years later. Lots changed in 95 years. So, when you go and talk about journalists, maybe some of this stuff, on some of the countries you're talking like China, you know, Turkey,

you know, Saudi Arabia or some of the countries that they're talking about, look, that's silencing is what they're trying to do. When you go and talk about the government, you cannot do that. In America, you get a raise if you do that, right? If you call on the government. However, that's journalism. Now let's go to the next one here. Story. Chinese mouthpiece paid in the US newspaper, $19 million in ads, printing report. This is page five if you wanna go to it. Adam, you're very quiet lately, but we're gonna be okay.

I just want you to know, you're gonna stress out too much. So this is a business. I'm learning to say one thing. Yeah. There's certain subjects where, you know, people can't wait to speak. This is one of those subjects where you've got two ears

and one mouth for a reason, and I'm actually learning. You had some amazing points. You had some amazing points. You just went through all this. And I'm learning here. This is something that I think the entire audience is learning right now because I mean, this is the one thing we always talk about.

There's no, like who's one journalist that we can point at and say, wow, that's the guy back in the day was Walter Krunkai. Who is today, though? I don't know, maybe it's Joe Rogan. Maybe it's Joe Rogan. Glenn Green will Matt Tyred. Maybe Matt Tyred. Maybe it's my guy.

What do you think about Brett Bear? Oh, great bench press. That's it. I like Brett Bear. I like Brett Bear. I don't know that. I'm a huge fan of like Brett Bear. I don't know that. I'm a huge fan of Fareed Zacarya. We know that.

And I'll say one thing about Fareed Zacarya. He's on CNN, so everyone can own the chatterbox. He's amazing journalists. He's Indian-born, American-made. I'm sure you can respect that. He did something the other day on his show that I was like, whoa. He did a show and he goes, hey, my last point, I actually said something last week that was wrong.

And I'm here to correct it today. And this was the point. It wasn't even a major point. But he came out and I was like, oh, okay, thanks. But I think more journalists need to do that. Brian Stelter. No, do you know a big problem is that the word, when people think, so journalists and pundits are different things. But they've been merged, you know, Don Lemon is a pundit, Tucker Carlson is a pundit. Sean Hannon, yeah, they're pundits, Rachel Maddell, pundits, but they're conflated with journalists, right?

To me, a journalist is someone who gives the news, like reads the news, and it's actually a fairly, a bias, as long as what they're reading is objective there's not much room to you know they don't even really get space to give their opinion maybe they could do it in their tone or whatever so but I think that when people think journalists we go to these famous faces who really are pundits more than yeah there's sort of journalists to a

degree well none of those guys were a national scores by the way every no no no no no no no no no no no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you turn on your TV and it's boom, the news guy, you know what's later here. I'm watching the news. ESPN came out a year and a half ago and says that we're no longer committed to sports. We're committed to editorializing sports. Yes, Stephen. So they, they're not,

I guess editorial guy out there, they're just as opinion. They don't, they don't play highlights anymore. It's, there's nothing light. There's a, I haven't, I haven't watched MTV or ESPN in, it's gotta be, I've watched, honestly, and this is all I ever watched growing up was MTV, ESPN. MTV, ESPN, just go back and forth between those two things.

Hours and hours and hours every day. I'd go from single doubt to sports center, to TRL, to, you know, then outside the lines with, you know, like I would just go back and forth, those two channels, that was it. I've watched maybe 15 minutes total of the two channels in the last two, three years. And it's because they're no longer commit, they are the story and their narrative is first.

It's no longer about watching the homeruns of the dunks, it's about, well, what does this dunk mean for society? And it's like, I don't care. I don't care what you have to say. I think it's worth saying. This problem exists in the UK, but it's worse in the US. It's really, really polarized here. Like the media, it's very much, you know.

Have you fully recognized that since being here for the last month or so? I've seen it for you many years, you know. I mean, I remember, you know, as a kid growing up in Saudi, I mean, we did get CNN out there and Fox News, et cetera. And I remember growing up, everyone always knew that Fox News was like right leaning, but CNN was certainly deemed as the center of the world.

Yeah, and it did used to be... Settled in a newer time. Yeah, it did. It was the paper of record. Yeah, it did used to be much more so, whereas now, especially, I haven't owned a TV for 12 years. So when I do watch the news, it really strikes me how propagandistic it is, right? So I turn it on and I'm just like,

whoa, like this is just straight down this side. Especially when Trump was in office, oh my gosh. It was literally like straight down this way, straight down. What was his famous line about the media? The media is the enemy of the people. The media of the people. I think the media took that well. That was a bar. Who cares? Was he wrong? He was right. He was right. I mean, the way they're dividing people in the past year and a half. It depends on what team you're on. Past year and a half, you know, half the population

thinks that, you know, there's like a mild flu slash cold that's going around the world, which is like, you know, like very minimal rest. Other people think that we're in the middle of a black plague, Armageddon, and a state like Florida. Oh my gosh, what are they calling your government? Deathsantis, like, oh my gosh, Florida is like, they're gonna kill all the people. I mean, I'm here, I'm like, I've been watching the live.

Those are all the good people, by the way. We're the bad people. Those are the good people. But people are living in, people are living in absolutely different realities. And that was created by the media all around the world Intentionally, yeah, intentionally, which is where I went. I'm like man the immediate is the enemy of the people especially one people are now fighting each other and You know literally people are advocating for segregation now

Well, that's my question In the UK the I are the politics I Identity politics as well there are Are there their political divisions based on your immutable characteristics? They imported it somewhat from the US. So the UK has a bad habit of taking the US is worst the worst aspects of the US. Like I love the USA.

One of my favorite countries in the world. But there are a couple things here which I think are really, really toxic sociopolitically and culturally and one of those things is identity politics. And it's various forms. In the US, people are too obsessed with race, way too obsessed with race. I understand it somewhat from the history. I mean, you guys use the terms Asian-American, black-American, African-American.

Why am I in England? We say British. British. Like, if someone said I'm black-British or African-British, they'd be like, why'd you say that, like why using that term, right? But here like race is like- For big on labeling. Yeah, the labeling, it's runs through everything, it runs through the meat,

and people don't realize it because it's like the default here, right? But when you're looking at it as an outsider, I'm like, why are you, why is there always- So in the news. Why, black, and the news. I don't think it always was the default. I think it points specifically to Carter and affirmative action because no

be be your when Carter did affirmative action this is just before Pat came here right so it became beneficial to label yourself they became there they're became an actual profit incentive to be labeled I think it goes way back it goes way before that I mean the US has a's to be labeled. I think it goes way back. It goes way before that. I mean, the US has a specific history in regards to race, right? And so these designations, white, black, et cetera. Yeah, but you, but you, but you can't have like, you know, slavery, et cetera, and segregation the way Jim Crow

all that you, you can't didn't have all that. And also the US is much more racially and ethnically diverse. And so I understand where it comes from. It's just that I'm like, yo, it's 2021, like why are people still really locked into that? I don't know. I just gonna go away. It's a formula to divide. And it's working very effectively. But you know, even you talked about CNN earlier, somebody commented about Ted Turner. If you've ever read Ted Turner's book, call me Ted. I don't know if you guys have read it or not. The ending of the book

is fascinating where he's interviewing one of the current folks at CNN. And he says, I'm so disappointed with what you guys have done to CNN. This is now why I started CNN. Ted Turner said that. Wow. Ted Turner said that. Wow.

I don't start CNN to be like this. When did he say that? When did he say that? This is a book he wrote years ago. This is not a recent book. Call me to, I highly recommend everybody go by his book. Call me to it. It is fascinating what the man did with his life and how he went from who he was to who he married to the personal life

You know alcohol he talks openly about everything. There is nothing he holds back. He tells himself I'm a great father I'm a terrible husband like the stuff he goes through with the book It's a book you won't be able to put down but at the end he calls out CNN says I am so disappointed with what CNN turned into at the end of the book. I highly recommend people seeing it. And it was, let me go into the story here with what happened. Chinese mouthpiece paid the US newspapers, $19 million in ads printing, this is a business standard story. One of China's main propaganda outlets, China Daily, an English language newspaper controlled by the Chinese Communist Party has paid more than $4.6 million to the Washington Post, 6 million dollars to Wall Street Journal since 2016, the US Justice Department documents showed.

Let me say this one more time. 4.6 million to Washington Post, 6 million to Wall Street Journal, as per the Justice Department reports, China Daily also paid for advertisers in several other newspapers, including New York Times, Forum Policy, Des Moines Register, CQ roll call. It spent a total of $11 million on advertising in newspapers and another $265 on advertising with Twitter, the LA Times, Seattle Times, Atlanta Journal Constitution, the Chicago Tribune, the Houston Chronicle, the Boston Globe are all listed as clients of China Daily, the China outlet, paid LA time, $650,000 for printing services. So, question.

All of this stuff we just talked about, right? All of this stuff we just talked about, they're taking money from a company that's controlled. Let me say this one more time. China Daily is an English language newspaper controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. So, I got a story with this. Adam, you would remember this.

Kai, you'll definitely remember this. We're doing an event, I don't know where this event was. It may have been SLS. I think it was SLS. So while I'm doing an event, I get an email from this major public PR firm in New York. We want to have a call with you. So we go and have a call with them in New York.

We're a PR firm, but 100% of clients they represent us from China. So I go look them up, I'm like, wow, it's a pretty big PR firm, but it's all China-based companies. So I say, there's this nonprofit organization in China. I have this in email. Kai, do you remember this? Non-profit organization in China wants to give me $600,000 of which I keep $300,000 of it. The other $300,000 at an event, charity event in China wants to give me $600,000 of which I keep $300,000 of it.

The other $300,000 at an event, charity event in China, I give the $300,000 and I donate it to that nonprofit organization. Donate it. That I donate. So let me say this one more time. 600K, I keep the 300. The other 300, I donate.

So we do a Zoom with them. We do a call with them. The most awkward call in the way the, I don't it. So we do zoom with them, we do a call with them, the most awkward call, and the way the man spoke was very strange. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you just come, we fly you, we take care of you, we come over here, and then we like what the work you do, we just want to give you $600,000,

and you make a big check and you give us $300,000 to our charity, but you can keep the other $300,000. And it's gonna be a great experience if you come out here and do this. I'm like, huh, interesting. I call my attorney, it says, first of all, you take this money. If it even should, because it's like a speaking gig,

it says, if you even take this money, if you ever have any plans of doing anything later on, they're always gonna say, you know, on by China, right? But you have to give them credit on how brilliant they are. Yes. Because they're willing to buy influence. And how many people would say yes to that $600,000 check? A lot of people, that's a lot of money.

You keep $300,000 of it, you come out here, you do this. But so then the question becomes, what is wrong with a company taking money from a China daily that's owned by Chinese Communist Party? Is there anything wrong with that? That's number one. Number two, if there is something wrong with that, why are they saying yes to it?

Is it just because about about about profits? This is what's wrong with it. What's wrong with it is that they presented their advertising as if it were native articles. It's not just that they took the advertising. Advertising's fine, all right. Newsmax wants to do my pillow guy wants to, you know, throw up, you know, Q&N on stuff, go for whatever. Fine, but don't present it as news,

which is what the New York Times and Washington Post and everybody else did. They took the money and then they took these articles that were very clearly written by Chinese propagandists and they presented them as if they were news. That's what was wrong. In addition, that's the money we know about. What I'm more concerned about than these bought and paid for corrupt news media organizations are the universities.

The universities have been taking so much money from China for so long and funneling communist propaganda. Actual literal communist propaganda into the youth. They're working. They are buying the future. They set up confusion schools that a lot of these leaders are losing a war. Most people are unaware is going on. I quoted that, I literally said that yesterday to someone. That's, that is, that's the problem. And unless people recognize it and develop a strategy to counteract it, dude Hollywood in the entertainment industry

and the sports industry, like, this NBA, remember that John Cena thing where he came out? Yeah, oh, oh, We're thoughts on that but but but there was podcast I called Cena China's bitch By the way, there's certain things that we should be on the same page And up and up there's certain things we should be on the same page with this being one of them It's a common enemy. They don't care about America. They don't care about the Democratic Party They don't care about the Republican Party but the people that they like are those who are for sale. Look at presidents who couldn't be bought.

Look at presidents who could care less whether you were going to buy in with money or not. Name presidents historically that couldn't be controlled by money. Name presidents that come get Trump's one of them. Who else? JFK's another one. Who's one of them. Who else? JFK. JFK is another one. Who else? Teddy Roosevelt. White House. Who else?

Not many in the last four years. Reagan. Reagan. Reagan had money. Who else? Abraham Lincoln. You think Lincoln cared about money? No. What happened to those four?

Go go go Lincoln. What happened to him? How? I did it. I did it. Literal or character assassination? Yeah. What happened to John F. Kennedy? Coincinated. What happened to Reagan? Six inches away.

What happened to Trump? If they did what they did to JFK with Trump, Trump would have been murdered. Trump would have gone down as the greatest. It would have been the Republican. He would have replaced Reagan if that would have happened. Are you shocked that there wasn't at least an attempt on Trump? I got to be honest. I was shocked. How do we know there wasn't at least an attempt on Trump? I gotta be honest, I was shocked. I, how do we know there weren't? Yeah, I think to me, I think to me, what's worse still? What's worse still?

What's worse still? There are many methods of assassination. What's worse character assassination? This color, this color revolution. Nothing worse than character assassination. I mean, you saw the article that came up with Vanity Fair, how Rudy Giuliani went from a 9-11 hollowed mayor

to 2021 haunted ghoul. If you read that story about Rudy Giuliani, the way they present in, this guy went from winning the G-man award a few years ago from FBI in 2015 to all of a sudden. Two of them, two of them. So, yeah, no, I see it. I'm just not, the whole story is a long story for me to go through with Giuliani. It's just your scene. Would you do business with China right now? If China wanted to open, I see it. I'm just not the whole story is a long story for me to go through with Julian is Which you do business with China right now if China wanted to open you wouldn't so if they said we're gonna come in We're gonna make PHP the I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. You know, I wouldn't do it Why why why would I ever do something like that? I'm not a fan of control. So what what leverage do I have over you?

Let's just say I do that. What leverage do I have over you? What leverage the other day over you? What leverage? The other day, I'm trying to pick up my global entry card from TSA. You know how clear talks to me? The difference between buying a clear card and TSA. You ready? Clear.

How are you, Mr. Bear? They would get to see you. Have you resigned? If we'd love to get your family on the program as well, thank, oh, it's totally fun. Would you like a mask? Oh, we'd be more than happy to help you out. You know how TSA?

I show up Caroline causes this woman just hung up on me Okay, I'm driving down to TSA to get my global entry card. Why are you late? Why are you so late? What happened to you? Realized that I said man, this is there's nobody here, but I'm sorry. I'm late I said man I'm looking for the senior in five years when I renew I will not be here intentionally To never not ever deal with somebody like you who is late. I said, man, I'm looking for the senior in five years when I renew. I will not be here intentionally to never, not ever deal with somebody like you who's late.

I said, I'm so sorry. So I left a hundred bucks. Hundred bucks. Government doesn't give you service. You think I'm gonna go in bed with somebody that represents the government? What are they gonna do? They're on my team?

Hell no. What team are they gonna be on? So I'm surprised we're allowed in these US companies. We wanna do business with China thinking they're gonna be on your team. They're not gonna be on the way. I mean, I'm gonna be posting a question. Who's China over the US too?

Put yourself, Pat now established has money, money's not an issue. Pat, 10 years ago, just starting out, scraping by. Yeah, I don't. Maybe you, not saying you, but that person. I don't disagree. Would maybe consider it more than this. I don't disagree. This by the way by the way, I don't disagree

This is why this is why I I'm concerned if a person who becomes president Doesn't have their own money nor have they served in a military. I have a hard time with that Yeah, I think a president have shit their own should have their own money because you don't make any desperate moves Yeah, and you should have served own money because you don't make any desperate moves. And you should have served in a military. Those are my two criteria for me. I think because who the hell are you to tell a military guy what to do? Do you realize how disrespectful it is to tell a million? You don't even know what life they're living in.

You want to tell them what to do. A soldier's going to sit there and say, what the hell are you talking about? What are you talking about? Like, you want to tell me what my life is like? Like imagine if I tell you what it is to be comedian. You guys are going to sit there and say, what are you talking about? You don't know what it is to be comedian. You guys are going to sit there and say, what are you talking about?

You don't know what it is to be comedian. I've never been in that room when comics are talking to, it's like, be talking about what's the big deal about stealing jokes. You're like, what the hell is the matter with you? So, to me, you want to be a president, governor, whatever. Congress Senate to go for it.

You want to be president? You have to have your own money, established your own money, and number two, you have to have served the mill. Well, look at Trump, he had his own money, but he didn't serve in the military. I saw him in your government. I'm not, that's not true.

No, I'm just asking. Yeah, and he's getting there telling generals what to do. I'm sorry, there's a difference. If you don't have it, you can't talk to them as if you know their world. Do you know the only president to have a family member serve in the military in the last 50 years?

Bush. No. Family, a kid, like a kid, one of their kids, is Biden. in the military in the last 50 years. Bush. No. Family. The relative. A kid, like a kid, one of their kids, is Biden. No, no, no, I'm talking about them. Them. No, I know, I get it.

I'm saying that, but you're saying, you have no authority to tell a general trod. You do not. You don't, let me tell you, military is a very emotional, these guys are talking about mental health and all this stuff. By the way, in the military, like Simone Baal's can take a break and go become a hero for mental health and what she did, she has a choice to do that. Of course, you can't do that in war.

You cannot do that when you're under that pressure. You cannot do that when you're firing lines. You don't have the luxury to say, hey guys, please stop shooting, guys, please literally. I have a headache. I'm getting an attack. I need to tell the difference. Let's please stop. I'm going to take a break. This is too much for me. Please, I'm asking you stop shooting. Okay, I'm going to get up. It's like, you know how you do a pink gun and guy gets up and walks out. Guys, guys, guys, guys, you know, so for a person to act like the understand military or for a person who doesn't have money to for a person who doesn't have money to be a president, you scare me.

Let me give you a different perspective. One of the things when we when we hire C-suite executives, you know what I like to hear from C-suite executives, I'll tell you one of the guys who expected a job. Here's how he recruited himself. Look at the way he did it. I love his interview. One of my favorites the way he did it. He says, I just want you to know I have a lot

of different options right now for jobs because I'm very good at what I do. And you can call my references of the last 20 years and you will see what they say. I work half days. These are the kind of hours I work. I'm going to be here this time. I'm going to be here at this time.

And my schedule works this way. But I want you know, I've had a lot of different exits so financially I don't need salary I don't care what you pay me salary wise you need to pay me a decent salary for what the market tells me But I don't want to be the high-spatts salary guys my interest is an equity I want you to give me equity and give me a lot of equity because that's what I want to build I want to help build a company because I've already had multiple seven figure exits I have cash I have money. I don't need to worry about what I need to do, take care of my family for the rest of my life. But I'm only here because the equity.

Do you know, I want him in leadership position because he will never make a desperate move, nor will he ever give me feedback because he's worried about finances. Now flip it. I had another guy that came for a job interview. Few years ago, I'm doing the interview with him. This one, the reasons why I was scared

about the haircut I was getting yesterday. This is another interview I'm doing for a job. This guy's also applying for a C-suite job, but this is five years ago, six years ago. So he comes in and the interview goes resume decorated. Decorated resume and he goes through it. I wanna be the CMO and I wanna do this, I wanna do this and I'm gonna say no problem,

let's go through the interview. So all of a sudden, in middle of the first 10 minutes impressive, second 10 minutes impressive, third 10 minutes he just says, man, I gotta let you know what's been happening with me. This is my second divorce and I just went through this and I have to pay this much money and I'm back on the rent. If you can just pay in advance of $20,000 for me to be able to do this and for me to be able to do that. And while I'm moving this and if you can throw another $10,000 in a minute, it'll be so amazing because of where I'm at. You know what I sat there and I thought about?

I'm like, ooh, I gotta be careful with this. Why? Because you, by the way, there's difference. All of us have been in a desperate position before. But this is not even a talent thing. I don't worry about talent. This is an executive position. And this is very different with talent.

Talent is a different story. An executive position where you have to lead people, you can't be stressed out about money. So I want to make sure household is good. I want to make sure finances are good. I want to make sure you've had the moral authority to tell other people what to do. So you want to be a president.

I would put, if I was, now obviously, I'm not the one that's making the guidelines here. For me, if you want to be a president, I think you've got to have a net worth of, you've got to have your wife, your kids covered, your future retirement covered. If you've got minimum $10 million, $20 million, okay, great. That's fine. But if you're in and you only worth a couple hundred thousand dollars, you're going to do side deals for money because you've never tasted money before. You've never tasted money before. What have you made these $10, $20 million in politics?

No, I don't like that. I don't like that because to me, again, Kai, so to me, there's two things that you will never relate to. Two things that you will never relate to. So for example, let's put the one thing that men will never understand. What is the one thing that we will never understand what it is to have a baby ever I've seen my wife we did what she goes through with the baby we are never gonna understand that pain. Okay, that they go through now

So let's set that aside. That's on the pinnacle position for me at the top So let's set that part aside. We're never gonna know no matter what we ever do You're never gonna know so now let's go to the outside a woman who was a woman worth a half a billion She said hey, man can I tell you guys something the closest thing you to the outside. A woman who was a woman worth a half a billion, she said, hey, man, can I tell you guys something? The closest thing you'll ever know about, what it is to raise a baby and have a baby is to start a company and you're the founder.

Only founders will know the closest thing to the pain we go through having a baby. Okay. If a politician has never ran a business where he put his money on the line, how the hell do you know what it is to be a small business owner? You don't know what it is to be a small,

but you don't even know how scary it is. You don't know what it is to be a small, but you don't even know how scary it is. You don't know what it is to be a tax. By the way, when I was going through anxiety attacks in 2013, 2014, I couldn't tell the bank to stop asking for payments. I couldn't tell my guy that I'm at least a $2 million contract on the office building to give me six months to pay rent.

I couldn't tell the guys, hey, please guys, don't put this, I couldn't tell my competitors, stop trying to port some of my guys. I couldn't tell my carriers, hey, please be a little bit nicer to us right now, because I'm going through mental and anxiety. I couldn't tell anybody anything. Founders don't have that ability. Should you be able to, should you be able to call time out? No, you, it's like the war analogy. It's not about, yes, you should be able to, but should your competitor stop taking business from you? No, you should be able to do it, but you should also realize that you're gonna lose

if you do that. No one's gonna stop competing. The market's not gonna stop competing in this kind of a society. So you have a little bit of a hard time when somebody becomes a president who one hasn't made the money and two you've never served. What moral authority does it give you to tell us what to do?

Interesting. I think on the first point, I mean, going wider on that is, human beings respond to incentives. If you really understand just how the effective incentives on people it explains so much behavior and so much stuff. Going back to what you were talking about before with China, China can run this cold war game, etc.

China's been waging war without firing any bullets or dropping any bombs, right? Because they understand incentives. So when they've got their tentacles in Hollywood, in the NBA, in sports, in Africa, they're buying up all this land and funding certain things, et cetera. They're not coming in with, you know,

it's not like threats and violence. It's not that old school. We're going to just come in here with our guns and take stuff over. It's no. We've got a hand in every single aspect. We're in your political system, your entertainment, your sports, everything. So I mean, even this past year and a half, I mean, dude, you got people fighting each other over this virus over masks, vaccines, whatever.

What's the one thing that people can't talk about? Where did this thing come from? Yeah. Right? Unless if your name is John Stewart. Yeah, people were more mad about... Have you seen them on TV after you said that though? What?

Oh, no, no, you haven't seen that though. Yeah, people were more mad. People get more mad about you saying the term Chinese virus, or Kung Flu, then they get mad about the fact that China either leaked or unleashed this thing out to the world, lied about it, covered it up for it. Dude, China's been back to normal for since like about May last year. They won two gold.

How? How? 1.4 billion people at the center of the rice, like they were distributing vaccines spring last year. Which vaccine? How? Like, if we had a real media and real journalists that are, you know, operating independently, won't they be asking?

Like there's so many questions here. And I'm just like, wait, we're arguing about all this stuff. I'm like, can we go up a level and be like, wait, what happened? They're allegedly the only country that had a positive GDP. Well, here's the big elephant in the room. You're talking about 4,000 deaths, like, wait. The big elephant in the room that people aren't willing to talk about,

China understands our psyche better than we do. And they understand, look, I'll just be real. White women in particular, they love authority, bro. They take to authoritarianism. These carons took to authoritarianism like ducks to water. They found their vein, they found their person, they were like, that's my target demographic. They found them and they exploited the heck out of it.

And what they understood, probably they understand capitalism better than we do. What is the number one advertising demographic? 18 and 39 females. 18 and 30, so if you own the hearts and minds of those women, you own every company trying to sell them everything. So China, they, the CCP is like, we're going at the car and big go and they're open. No, this man, they have what they call it, the hundred year plan. Yeah, right? Like it's, it's not even like we're, we're,

come out with conspiracy theories. It's like they're open. They're like, it's not even like we're, we're coming up with conspiracy theories. It's like they're open. Like this is what we're doing. In X amount of time, we're gonna, you know, have this, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that. And I look forward to a day when conspiracy theorists are being wrong again. I know, I could.

Conspiracy theorists are just spoiler alertists now. You guys are gonna be, you guys are gonna find this out in six months, but yeah, this is what's actually happening. So really good points boys. I gotta get respect all right All good guys. We are at that time right now. We've gone after 11 seven minutes folks If you enjoyed having zubian today smash that thumbs up button and subscribe to the channel Zubi appreciate you for coming out It was great. It was great your perspective

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