PBD Podcast - Zuckerberg Meets Trump, Kamala's Odd Video, Abby Phillip's "Dear" Meltdown | PBD Podcast | Ep. 513

Starting point is 00:00:00 Alright, so look, it's Thanksgiving today. Let me start off with some disturbing news before you start your evening. Did you know one in four people still carry weight from holiday last year? Did you know this is the busiest Thanksgiving ever for travel with more than 18 million Americans taken to the skies? And if you were at the airport yesterday, let us know how ugly airports were and travel was and did you know Americans will throw out 316 million pounds of food on Thanksgiving and here's how it fuels ready for this climate change folks you throw food away you're messing with the

Starting point is 00:01:03 climate it's telling you the people in Antarctica are not happy with you in Alaska. You better watch out. And they also say statistics that giving thanks can make you happier and healthier. And we want to give you a thank you for being with us on Thanksgiving morning. Woke up this morning going for a walk and I see Dylan in the back practicing. I come in, drive up to the office, doing a bunch of my necks this morning, having conversations, and then I come in thinking we have maybe a handful of stories to cover, and then Rob drops 50 stories on me here right now that we've been preparing.

Starting point is 00:01:37 Let me go through some of these stories, which are kind of fun. Mark Zuckerberg, this guy who's worth a lot of money and kind of a big deal, who runs Facebook, who wrote a letter, open letter to honorable chairman Jim Jordan a few months ago was with Trump yesterday at Mar-a-Lago. I don't know what they were doing. Maybe he was showing them how to use Instagram better, maybe it's the algorithms, maybe it's Facebook. Maybe it's how to post better edited videos.

Starting point is 00:01:59 I don't know, but something tells me it was more than that. We will talk about that to tariffs. All these folks from Mexico, President, coming out talking shit. We're not going to do this. We're not going to do that. And then Trump makes the call. Well, we had a very good call together and it's going to be fantastic. Justin Trudeau, they can't make us do anything.

Starting point is 00:02:18 Well, yeah, it's actually going to be very interesting working together. It's going to be great. We're going to play some of those clips for you. Trump demands apology from New York Times and we'll tell you why that is. Very interesting story there. Trump transition news live updates. Justin Trudeau, President-elect had good talk. We'll play that clip, Tom, because that's something to respond to that.

Starting point is 00:02:39 DNC official says Harris took no responsibility for blowing billions during campaign donor call. This person says they were stunned. And by the way, imagine if you gave her millions of dollars and she failed with all the money you gave her. You believed in her. Then it's the last meeting, it's the donor meeting to come and say thank you to all the people that gave you the money and you don't show up. Like tell me who does such a thing, right? No show, nothing at all and yet on some list she's at the top of the list of candidates for

Starting point is 00:03:10 2028 and there's a person here that's aspiring to run in 2028 that something happened yesterday which Jason Miller shared and Tom brought it up to our attention. Hillary Clinton looks like she's planning for another one for 2028. That's exciting stuff, folks. Very exciting stuff. Then Kamala Harris, you know, gives a message on video. Meghan McCain said, I don't understand why anyone on her team would even allow this video to be released. We're going to show it to you.

Starting point is 00:03:38 It's extremely disturbing, entertaining. We can use a handful of different words like that in it, but you have to see it to believe that it's not a spoof. Nowadays you have to think it's a deep fake. This is not a deep fake, right? This is one, their campaign has to come out and say, this is a deep fake because it's that bad after you see it.

Starting point is 00:03:55 Another clip I saw this guy on CNN uses the phrase deer. Okay, deer. He uses the phrase deer and you should see what they do I think his name is Leon will show the clip that you can't call a woman deer nowadays And I posted a tweet and a commentary super entertaining Newsome proposes electric vehicle tax rebate plan and and you have to see which company he is not wanting to support and somebody asked him But you got 20 26,000 employees here that they employ.

Starting point is 00:04:26 I'll just let you see the clip for yourself and tell me if it makes any sense. Tom's got a bunch of stuff he's going to be responding to that. And then a poll comes out revealing who the Democrats and Republicans want to see run in 2028. Very interesting. Fired CBS reporter reveals that her bosses blocked her Elon Musk interview. Why would you block an Elon Musk interview? We'll share that.

Starting point is 00:04:49 Israel approves a two-month ceasefire with Hezbollah. Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt, the last time he said something it went viral. Here's another one for you. He warns the perfect AI girlfriend could worsen loneliness for young men. We will talk about that. Do you know FHA raises conforming loans limit to 806, 806,000 and a bunch of different numbers on real estate will share. Baker Mayfield's father, he's soon his father.

Starting point is 00:05:14 Can you imagine, he claims his dad stole $12 million from him. Dad stole $12 million from him? Yeah, his dad stole, just kind of like that comedian that his brother stole money from. Dan Cooke. Dan Cooke. $25 million. Whatever the number was, yes. Wicked interview sparks confusion over holding space. Folks, this video, I almost don't want to share it with you because I want you to have a happy Thanksgiving.

Starting point is 00:05:37 This may disturb you a little bit when you see this strange video interview. I've never seen anything like this in my life before. Sharon Stone is not happy. I remember when her and I spoke about Florida. She was not a fan of Florida. We'll talk about why Sharon's not happy. And then we've got a bunch of other things you need to know about. Pharmacies, what's open today if something happens. We'll cover that. We'll cover Elon asking if the IRS should be deleted after agency begs for 20 billion dollars. He asks on Twitter and then him and Vivek

Starting point is 00:06:07 Toy would eliminating daylight savings time I'm curious who in this panel is with that and who's not with it and then Kamala Harris apparently didn't go on the Joe Rogan Podcast because Trump sat down with him and because of that he didn't want to she didn't want to go on it Which is kind of very weird to think about and then Kamala Harris calls like and Kevin already calls out Kamala and a few other things here to share with you. But anyways, hey, today is Thursday, it's Thanksgiving, tomorrow is Black Friday. And the reason why they call it Black Friday is because that is the first day that a lot of the retailers go into profit mode. So whatever else they make the rest of the year, hey, the name is Black Friday. Let me tell you what my code's been every year for Black Friday. Many, many years ago, it was about lining up

Starting point is 00:06:49 outside of Walmart or Best Buy or Costco. I'm gonna get the big TV for 50% discount. Nowadays, it's Amazon and all this other stuff. And you splurge and you splurge and you splurge and nothing about you improved and it's the same old same old. Here's what we're doing for Black Friday folks. First of all, we have a massive Black Friday sale that's gonna be 50% off. There's a whole setup. 50% off hats, shirts. We have this notebook here, the Valuetainment notebook

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Starting point is 00:08:54 tonight during Thanksgiving and talk to you and have a conversation with you, but the order needs to be $500 or more. You'll get some surprise FaceTime calls from us. Having said that, go to vtmerchT merch calm place the order before these things sell out Because they will this weekend. All right, let's get right into it now We started off With some updates here Thanksgiving what it's looking like. I want to get some of my English down because sometimes you know every year

Starting point is 00:09:21 I want to improve my English the words I use English is my fifth language. I'm watching the CNN interview and I'm getting confused for Folks on what nowadays is considered sexist what's not Rob if you don't mind just go to Twitter Because I want to show the exchange on Twitter where I'm also showing the response so this guy is on CNN Okay, and he calls this lady Dear and you should see the reaction. I think the whole thing, I try to look her up, her name is Abby Phillips or Abby Philips. We'll look her up right now to see what it is. Just watch this and you tell me if you're offended by this phrase, Dear. Rob, if you can also, after this is up, run a poll. I want to know. I want to get better with my English Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

Starting point is 00:10:05 Go for it. Audio, Rob, we can't hear anything, unless if I'm deaf. Go back up a little bit, please. Yeah, go ahead. Rob, it's so low. What's the story there, Rob? It might be on the guys in the back.

Starting point is 00:10:23 Guys, can you guys raise the audio on the video? Go ahead and play it again. Run it back guys run it back. Let's see what's going to happen here. Just try to do your best to hear it. Massagin-y Excuse me. Thank you for the massage. Massagin-y. I'm just going to stop it right here. We're not going to get off on a wrong foot. Please do not address a grown woman as dear in a conversation. Do not do that at my table. Pause it right there.

Starting point is 00:10:57 Do me a favor. Go to the comments section. Go to the comments section. So I asked the question, right? I asked the question. I said go to the top, Rob, when I said I said is this a joke since when does calling someone dear consider sexist this is exactly why CNN keeps losing common sense viewers go a little lower a lady responds and she says since at least the early 2000 she says and I

Starting point is 00:11:18 respond back respectfully thanks dear and then she responds back again Rob you have to show this show replies and she responds back again, Rob, you have to show this, show replies. And she responds back and she says, you can be sexist all you like and I'm a housewife. You have to do too much more than to ruffle my feathers. If that was your true intent, of course. Then I said, dear Jenna, I have tremendous respect for housewives,

Starting point is 00:11:39 it's a tough job and I applaud you for it, respectfully, PBD. I mean, what other way do you respond back in an email? Hey, dear Vinny, I love you, I respect you. Tom, your English here is better than everybody else. You drop some big words sometimes. I'd say second is Adam. Your vernacular is amazing.

Starting point is 00:11:56 Yes. When did the phrase dear become disrespectful? It didn't and it never has. It's people that choose to find new ways to say I'm offended as a means to control dialogue and to push people into corners. That's all that's going on. She knew he was not being condescending. That was a fairly civil discourse. They were getting into it a little bit. They weren't yelling. They weren't interrupting. Not yet. And the guy just goes, okay, dear, you know, and

Starting point is 00:12:26 He was not like getting it. It's not it's not condescending You have emails from I get emails unsolicited from people. I don't know dear Tom You know you send an email to someone that you respond to you know on You know somebody's getting upset on my neck and I'll respond to them on texts and say, dear Jane, dear Fred, you know, it's a common thing. It's almost like saying hi and hello. And it's like a salutation. It's a friendly salutation. Now, was he using it perfectly that way?

Starting point is 00:12:58 Probably not. But it's not negative. It's not negative. They're choosing to be offended. Now, if she wants somebody to rev up, you know, and he wants to turn to her and just really heat it up and say, Oh, go knock it off, bitch. You know, is that what she wants? That's something for her to do. Is that what she wants? Is that what they want? They want to, do they really want to get down? Okay. But I think she's trying to get down I think she's pretending to be offended finding new ways to be offended. That's what the pronouns is all about You're not addressing me by my pronouns. You're offending me. It's all this feigned offense

Starting point is 00:13:35 I mean, but but the thing is this lady Abby Rob, can you pull up? Let's see who this Abby Phillips person is Can you go to Abby? Let's see your background. Okay person is. She's a new angry person at CNN. Let's see your background, okay? What school did she go to? Here we go. Harvard, weird. Previous to work at political covering the Obama White House, Washington poll national, okay, and ABC News, okay. They're not make sense, that's her background.

Starting point is 00:13:56 She's known no other. Afro-Trinitian, man. Trinidad. Trinidadian. Trinit. But she may be offended by that because it says Trinidad daddy daddy Isn't that like offensive like daddy Ian? Maybe she's hang on but but by the way Trinidad I think that means trisexual to know I know like she'll try anything. No, no, I'm actually making a serious comment here Trinidad young that's an Armenian last name. What's like saying Americans? She's from Trinidad Is that what that means though after Trinidad young that's an Armenian Armenian. What's like saying Americans? She's from Trinidad.

Starting point is 00:14:25 Is that what that means? Don't Afro Trinidad young like she's happy. She's not trinidad Trinidad. And she adds Armenian to the end of it guys. You have to put the possibility that she may be half Afro half Armenian because that's I am I. She could be Armenian from Iran. If it's YAN, it's from Yerevan. But again, that could be my bad.

Starting point is 00:14:51 Her family lives in what is that, Trinidad and Tobago? So that's a nice place. Okay, let's keep going. Let's go with Tobago. And what school does she go to? She wants to- Harvard. What do you think?

Starting point is 00:15:01 Okay, Bachelor in Government, originally intend to study, Rob, can you just control? She was studying pre-med, she couldn't take the chemistry and she said, I'm gonna get a BA in government. Can you control F and just see if the word deer is used anywhere here? It's not. It's not, well then maybe she's right.

Starting point is 00:15:18 Because dear Abby, dear Abby, right? Remember dear Abby, that was the news thing, right? Where you write in all these articles. Yeah, are you serious? Like if there's anybody that should be for Dear is Abby. It's her. Dear Abby. Half Afro, half Armenian.

Starting point is 00:15:33 Like this is like. Trini Danyan, am I you? The Armenians right now are like, is he serious? Is she from Yerevan? Where is she? That's so funny. I've got a lot of Trini friends. This next part is brought to you by DraftKings. How about the over-hunter?

Starting point is 00:15:54 If you know Armenian, there's IAN, there's YA. Even if the chance is less than 5% true. Tigranbekian. So maybe this is like Abiy Trinidadian. And then dear Abbey. So dear Abbey, we were confused why you were offended by the phrase dear. So Adam, we'll go to you before we go to the next story.

Starting point is 00:16:11 Go for it. So I actually was having dinner last night, by the way, happy Thanksgiving everybody. Thank you dear. And then what happened? Thank you dear. With a lovely lady friend of mine and I said this woman. Here we go. Back to girls. She's lovely. There was a lovely lady friend of mine and I said this this will go here. We go back lovely Like listen you could have said all of that would have been the dinner you get soft voice

Starting point is 00:16:32 You have to get sexy just get with the story, bro You see what I'm dealing with you guys make your point. So I was having dinner with my boyfriend last night was that what? Yeah Girl telling a story gentlemen tell us tell us what happened the girl. I'm telling a story, gentlemen. Tell us, tell us what happened with her. I'm having a conversation with this beautiful lady, and I said, and this woman is a massive Trump fan. Armenian or what? Not Armenian, American, half Venezuelan,

Starting point is 00:16:59 maybe Trinidadian, I don't know. Okay. And all of a sudden she turned Trinidadian. So the point is I'm establishing the fact that she doesn't get offended easily. She's pro Trump. And I said, watch this clip. What do you think? She said, I'm a little offended. I said, what do you mean? She said, if you, it's all about the tone. If you say, listen, dear, can I help you out here? Zero problem. But if you say, excuse me, dear, I'd be a little offended.

Starting point is 00:17:26 I said, okay. So maybe it'd be the equivalent of if I go, hey, listen, bro, can you pass me that? Or hey, bro, if I'm like, listen, bro, maybe you'd be a little offended. So do I think he was being misogynist, chauvinistic, sexist? Zero percent.

Starting point is 00:17:42 Do I think they were offended easily? A hundred percent. Do I think he was being a little? bombastic I think the more important question is are you guys gonna go on a second date? That's the real This is more than a second date, but I think this is actually great for rating She really offended and upset. This was the I want you to wear a Merry Christmas hat. That's right Dear is this offensive

Starting point is 00:18:18 Merry Christmas here's right and then just go on a day with her If you were that if was she upset did it like go downhill like into a deeper conversation? Believe me, it definitely didn't go downhill Did it like go downhill like into a deeper conversation? It definitely didn't go downhill Because you never know with you you may upset her and then you're walking out front you toss the condoms to the ballet And say I don't need these condoms. Come on. What's wrong with you, Tom? Am I a sailor? Um, but if you're that guy You need a clap back, dude He sat there as if he was getting lectured by abby. Oh myured by Abby well he knows that he'll never be like listen I told her what I needed to tell her and you shut your mouth also dear that's what I would have done boom ratings if that was

Starting point is 00:18:54 that if that guy was actually legit he would have clapped back good guy by the way he's been a good guy, listen, no, no. What I'm saying is, first of all, first of all, first of all, the point is this, okay? The power of that is the fear of not being invited back. Okay? The fear of not being invited back by CNN. The part about Scott Jennings that makes him a star right now is what? He claps.

Starting point is 00:19:23 By the way, the guy that Dear Abby Phillips said, hey, don't say anything about it because he said the whole thing was common sense with men competing in a female women's sport and he's like, don't you, I don't want you to say anything about the LJW or something. And he goes like, I don't remember that one clip. And it's like, well, please, you have to respect his position. He said, well, I know I'm being attacked here. At least he said that I'm being attacked. So you're defending a position and he came back and he kept attacking him nonstop.

Starting point is 00:19:50 Him, Scott Jennings, I think if our brother here who's a Trump advisor watching. Do you walk off the set, Pat? If that happened, hold on. No, I ask you to, I want you to ask me to leave. I want you to be uncomfortable. What do you mean walk off the set? You gotta stop the interview. You gotta be like, I'm sorry to ask me to leave. I want you to be uncomfortable. What do you mean walk off the set? You gotta stop the interview.

Starting point is 00:20:07 You gotta be like, I'm sorry, excuse me. I'm gonna keep saying, dear Abby, please. Respect me. Sweetheart. Honey. Honey, baby. What else? Pumpkin.

Starting point is 00:20:16 Where do you want me to go with this thing? Where do you want me to go? You want honey, pumpkin, all this stuff? We used to have one person in our office that every time she would, by the way, this is me, I'm a literal guy and she would say pumpkin. To you. I'm from freaking Middle East. We don't do Halloween.

Starting point is 00:20:29 I'm like, you call me pumpkin one more time. I swear to God, right? You can call me Patrick, Pat. That's it. Pumpkin crossed the line. That's a ridiculous because that's like, that's derogatory. Yeah. Hey, Apple pie.

Starting point is 00:20:42 Anyways, but look, I don't want to get pissed off right now. I want to get to the next story here, guys. Let's go to the next story. Whatever. This is little frustrating, but let's go to a more sir let's go to a little bit more of a a a Good like good vibe type of a video where you know, it is Thanksgiving people are gonna have some drinks tonight A lot of people they are I know Vinny you're not you know, but some people are gonna have some drinks tonight a lot of people they are I know Vinny you're not you know but some people are gonna have some alcohol they can spend time with Jack Jim Rob already knew talking about having a drink and starting early here is a former presidential candidate Kamala in Hawaii this is not a deep fake folks I will tell you if your kids are watching this earmuffs have them close their eyes

Starting point is 00:21:26 They should not watch this. This is not good for kids it's just as bad as watching a Love scene in a in a movie and it completely shocks you so pump the brakes close your eyes, but for adults Brace for impact go ahead. Here's here's dear Kamala go ahead To remind you, don't you ever let anybody take your power from you. I won't do it. You have the same power

Starting point is 00:21:53 that you did before November 5th. I appreciate you. And you have the same purpose that you did. And you have the same ability to engage and inspire. Her neck is 30 years older than her face. So don't ever let anybody or any circumstance take your power from you. Look at her.

Starting point is 00:22:13 What she's trying to say is don't let anybody take your drink away from you. That's what she really wanted to say. Every time she says power, every drink. We should do that, let's dub it. Every time she says power, let's put vodka. Yeah. Can we, for one second, guys, can we just, for one second, after seeing something like this, We should do that. Let's dub it. Every time she says power, let's put vodka. Drink. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:25 Can we for one second, guys, can we just for one second, after seeing something like this, the state of the union, okay? The sitting president has no idea where he is. He's 1000% has dementia. He's been on vacation more than any president in the history of the United States. The vice president who hasn't done anything, Tom, for four years, the borders are, went to the border one time because she had to, is off of a vacation after spending $1.5 billion in three months and is coming in clearly she's drunk or hungover.

Starting point is 00:22:55 Meanwhile, and this is why people wonder why we are in the state that we are, meanwhile, Jake Sullivan and Anthony Blinken are literally pushing us into a war. We have no president. The vice president is freaking tipsy and hungover. And that's why, Tom, and Tom, I want to know your opinion. That's why the importance of Trump coming in and showing that like these, nobody's in charge. Nobody's running the country right now.

Starting point is 00:23:19 And that's why the awakening, the Donald Trump awakening is one of the most important things, I think, in the history of politics. Well, part of what you talked about is lunacy. Not, you're not lunacy, but it's lunacy itself. And the other part of it is serious as hell. Yes. And the part that's serious as hell is someone is calling the shots, someone was green lighting the use of missiles being shot into Russia and on one side.

Starting point is 00:23:41 And on the other side, we've got a missing president who hasn't been seen in public and he Took a little walk in the in the rainforest It was such a joke and it was memed to death that he hasn't been seen even doing you know announcements for charity Nothing nothing just parading him out to say hey We're gonna be with the boys and girls club this Christmas and with toys for tots They could prop him up and have him say something like that this season. Nothing from the president. And meanwhile, now you've got the vice president

Starting point is 00:24:11 after a failed campaign heading off to Hawaii. And you know what, I need a new shirt. I have always supported MAD, Mothers Against Drunk Drivers. Seriously, I have supported MAD for good reasons. But now I think there needs to be a branch of it, mothers against drunk Democrats, and because we need to stop her. That's my feeling of it.

Starting point is 00:24:33 There's a very serious side to what you're saying, and there's a very just lunacy that we as Americans are counting down 58 days and praying for the inauguration. Go to Megan McCain's Twitter account. If you go to Meghan McCain, she just tweeted this. And if you go a little lower, keep going lower, lower, lower, lower. Right there, zoom in a little bit.

Starting point is 00:24:54 She says, take this down. She's still the sitting vice president for God's sake. This is awful, like really, really awful. The Democrats, go lower Rob Rob if you can the previous We know she's right go back once go back one of 48 million views Oh my are you kidding me like imagine you wake up the next day your name is Kamala You didn't know when you said yes to this and you said what the hell were you guys thinking? exactly like

Starting point is 00:25:23 Your device what do you, I was hungover. Why did you guys let this go out? Oh my goodness, why did they let you shoot it? This is crazy to allow some, by the way, this is coming straight, so you know this is not a deep fake or maybe this is happening for a different reason. And let me kind of go into this, maybe this,

Starting point is 00:25:41 and I'm gonna come to you, maybe this happened. Because she's the vice president, Biden was in the Amazon, so she's one anaconda from the president. And so check this out, check this out, check this out. And by the way for those of you guys that enjoy having a little bit of fun on Thanksgiving, I have a challenge for you, hang tight, we're gonna do something here fun together,

Starting point is 00:25:54 it's gonna be a blast and we're gonna be trending on Twitter but we're gonna need your help. Yes, cool. Hang tight for me, hang tight for me. Before we do this together. All right so here we go. This story, Rob go to this clip. I was stunned, DNC official says

Starting point is 00:26:06 Harris took no responsibility for blowing billions during campaign donor call Zero responsibility and by the way, you know who just took a happy five hundred thousand dollars as if it's not a big deal Oh, yes, who got five hundred thousand dollars from the campaign. Yeah, who got five? Go ahead Tom You know, I guess? Is Al Sharpton? Al Sharpton.

Starting point is 00:26:26 Oh weird. He's $500,000, he's $500,000 too. And a bunch of other people got money. But watch this, watch the fact that she's saying there was zero responsibility. Rob, please play this clip. She actually held two calls, one for her top donors and one for grassroots.

Starting point is 00:26:42 I was speaking in texting with fellow attendees of the call and we were amazed by how self-congratulatory the tone was. I don't recall, the call was about 20, 30 minutes, I don't recall anyone taking responsibility for the fact that we spent about $2 billion across Super PAC and the campaign and came up so significantly short. We lost seven swing states. Self-congratulatory. And what types of things were being said? They praise Harris as a visionary leader.

Starting point is 00:27:18 I believe at one moment during the call, she was talking about her Thanksgiving recipe. I don't say this with any malice or anything. I'm just merely conveying what happened. I think I was stunned to hear that, given just the extent and brutality of the loss and the fact that DNC staffers, two-thirds, at least two-thirds have been fired summarily. And a lot of them are at a loss as to what to do. and a lot of them are at a loss as to what to do. I'm just frankly stunned that there was no sort of post mortem or an analysis of how we can do better,

Starting point is 00:27:52 what sort of lessons were learned. It was really just patting each other on the back, congratulating each other on it. I'm not sure what. Adam, what do you think about when you see this? So a couple things. Back to that first video, this was Kamala's most viewed viral video ever period a little bit too late for this thing You know, but here's the reality with Kamala. There's a great picture of her right here

Starting point is 00:28:14 It's like my aunt that was my drunk aunt. That's what she was gonna be a single Saturday drunk uncle Hang on. That's my if you squint your eyes blurry, she's becoming Maxine waters. She is holy crap Adam go ahead talk about your so the The problem with Kamala is she she can't win. She literally can't win when she doesn't speak enough. She's not speaking Why isn't she speaking? She's not doing interviews and then when she does speak people are saying Why is this chick speaking? What shut her up already? What's wrong with this woman? She can't win. So that's what that's the sign of a very bad politician. She's just incredibly unlikable. Pat said this before, if there was actually a primary and they actually had to get up

Starting point is 00:29:01 on stage and debate, she wouldn't have beat Gavin Newsom. She wouldn't beat Pritzker. She wouldn't beat Whitmer. She wouldn't meet a whole host of people. Josh Shapiro, 2020. And thank you. Exactly. We know what happened right there. Her unlikeability factor is incredibly high. They tried to basically catapult her up the mountain. All right. D E I boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, put on all these things. It didn't work. We understand that, you know, there's something called a lame duck president. This is the lamest duck vice president maybe ever. Cause not only is she still the lame duck VP, she's also the lame duck candidate that just lost and in honor of national Turkey day, uh, she gets the award for that. As far as how much money

Starting point is 00:29:39 she spent $2 billion, it is what it is. They could have raised three billion dollars, she would have lost, she got destroyed. And the fact that she's getting on calls and not even being conciliatory and being like, my Jamaican Thanksgiving party recipe, check me out. It's all over for Kamala, but she'll get a job working for probably Halliburton or some lobbyist and making a million bucks a year, there it is.

Starting point is 00:30:04 Let me continue a couple stories in time, I'm gonna come to you Kamala Harris campaign advisor admits She had no path to victory. This is campaign advisor There was no path to victory and they admitted this David plow plow on pots new America Oh Rob, do you have this go and play this clip? There was no path for so listen There is no way you're gonna win. Well, let's spend two billion dollars Let's give it a bunch of money to our friends and family. Of course. Go ahead, Rob. Play Disco, please.

Starting point is 00:30:27 We got the race to dead heat was positive, but boy, it was slow moving. And I think we were focused on seven states. You know, that's our windshield into the world, the battleground states. But you know, what we saw on election day was, you know, New Jersey and California and Connecticut and New York, massive shifts. So I think where Kamala Harris campaigned, we were able to keep the tide down a little bit, but it ended up being a pretty strong, you know, tailwind for Donald Trump. And I think it's worth reminding everybody, we saw in 22, even though that was a pretty decent democratic year, we saw these shifts.

Starting point is 00:31:08 We saw them in 20. We saw them in 16. You know, Trump specifically, but Republicans generally improving their vote share. He doesn't actually say that in the clip. He just continues to allude that they lost all the swing states and got hammered and all of them. Oh, lost all swing states and got hammered and all of them. All lost all swing states and got hammered on all of them, but they saw a path that this was kind of momentum going the direction it was going, 2022.

Starting point is 00:31:31 Did you see what Humberto says yesterday? When he says got hammered, does he mean they were drinking with Kamala? By the way, she stayed six nights with her husband in a place, spent six nights post-election at $1,300 a night, a Hawaiian retreat owned by Mondavi wine family member The state included three complimentary bottles of Mondavi family wine She later returned to the Bay Area thanks him while reflecting on her campaign while we spent over a billion dollars But failed to win any of the battleground states good. What thanks in United. This was at Humberto sent us yesterday This was the margin of victory in each state all across the country.

Starting point is 00:32:05 Humberto sent this. So you see all the blue on the map. I don't exactly. Basically the country was like, yeah, we're done. We can't deal with this anymore. By the way, this is a, this was a, you know, what's the thing with the acceleration when things go two years ago, Trump's approval rating was, was 30 something percent Biden's approval rating and the democratic povering after midterm elections were over 50%. The country after midterms when the red wave was going to happen was like, yeah, we're done with this maga stuff.

Starting point is 00:32:38 If you would have told the general person two years ago after the midterm elections, Oh, by the way, Trump's going to win. And the entire country's going red. Every, any normal sensible person like, what are you talking about? But over the last two years with the DEI stuff, with the woke stuff, with our friend Dylan Mulvaney, all this, not knowing the difference between a man and a woman, all the weaponization of justice, everything added up to the entire country going red. Watch this. Okay. Florida got a little bit redder. DeSantis, we get it. Texas, 14.3 points. Look at California and look at New York and New Jersey. Are you freaking kidding me? Over here, we already got a red. By the way, you got to explain what this means.

Starting point is 00:33:18 This means which states got bluer, which states got redder. Guys, America got redder. Yes. bluer yes which states got redder guys America got redder yes even Hawaii even DC that is not one state got blue hey tough guy hey take it easy hey I'm from young for a second but uh and but Adam and you nailed it so two billion dollars let's address the first point because Rob talked about this yesterday on the unusuals all think about all the grassroots people all the people that busted their asses and you as the freaking front running president for this party, you couldn't even come out and be like, hey guys, thank you, good job.

Starting point is 00:33:52 Congratulations for at least the thing that we did. And you know what's crazy? Two billion dollars and this whole, you know what they expect out? Her race, black woman of color, it was gonna work. It's done, everybody's done. and you proved to it with Obama. Obama didn't move the needle at all and think about this, for that two billion dollars, she should have just said,

Starting point is 00:34:12 you know what, I know we're gonna lose since they know there's no path to victory, take that two billion dollars you border czar, you know what, and put it to the border. Let's start, that's what she should have done. I'm gonna lose, but you know what, instead of taking all that money and wasting it on a campaign, let's put it to the border and actually try to help America be protected. Well I back in, I'm as shocked and as emotional as

Starting point is 00:34:32 you are about it and I back down and kind of into my my quantitative mode that just wasn't anybody speaking. That was Lindy Lee who is the DNC finance committee. She's the money. So what do they do? They are the ones that politely reach out Hi, this is what we're gonna be doing the campaign training money to do this. We're with the DNC. We're gonna be pushing this She's going door-to-door with major corporations. She's going she's at Google. She's at Facebook She's out all these places and then she's going back to Soros and these people so this is a credible political party Democratic Party, and then what did she say happened? two

Starting point is 00:35:12 Thirds of the DNC the Democrat National Committee isn't just here during an election year They are here all the time because right now every two years House of Representatives elections go off. So they are already getting ready for two years going into the midterm elections. They're already there because they're doing damage control right now and trying to get back in. So she said two thirds of the DNC has been fired. So someone atop the DNC is reacting right now and saying my next five moves They're doing their next five moves and the last point I'll make when they say they saw no path to victory

Starting point is 00:35:50 Man, you should have seen remember when Pat said hey, we're doing the polling and everything Tom do a polling show Let's talk to the value team an audience. We kept it short ten minutes a week We had a 17-week countdown and we carefully, with the same AI, we used it. You carefully crushed it. Right, that's right. Well, we were using it. Well, Pat had invested in all those, the engineers for vtnews.ai.

Starting point is 00:36:15 So we were using that in the AI, building our models and looking at it. And we said, you know what? Atlas Intel, Rasmussen, these folks look like they've got it together, because that's the numbers we're seeing. And guess what? We were dead right.

Starting point is 00:36:27 That's the same stuff that they were seeing inside DNC and they were lying to their donors telling them that they thought they could have win. There's a path to victory here. They were point blank lying to them. Two thirds of all those people lost their job and you've got this woman looking at it and saying, Lindy Lee going, the campaign's got some responsibility here and I'm fricking shocked. So you just said two years is coming up. That's the next, the next election as business guys, as guys that were the midterms that run

Starting point is 00:36:55 companies. What, how do you adjust as the democratic DNC, whatever that I, I get on the surface, stop with the race. How do you adjust? How would you guys, Hey, they're not dumb forever My next five moves would be two-thirds of you were fired. Yeah, says there are not stupid people at the DNC There's a lot of them But there are people that know what they're doing know how to run it and someone has stepped up and said control alt delete Stop two-thirds of you are fired. Now. Let's get ready for the midterms. This is gonna be a fight So there are smart people that are let gonna tell you who is maybe a very qualified

Starting point is 00:37:27 person to answer the question for you you know who Brian Williams is yeah of course Brian Williams stepped down he had a job he stepped down and Brian will NBC and he was ABC and by the way when he stepped down he was like furious when he stepped down he wrote a letter he wrote a letter and it was like anybody you know when he stepped down I think he stepped down. He wrote a letter. He wrote a letter and it was like anybody you know when he stepped down I think he stepped down in middle of election two years ago. No, when did he step down? No, no, no, no, I actually disagree. He stepped down, uh, announced that there's a host of elections. I don't know when he stepped down but he stepped down. He announced on November 2021 that he would be leaving MSNBC so three years ago. Okay, three

Starting point is 00:38:02 years ago he stepped down. Watch this. He was fired. He was fired he did a couple things right? Well he got he had some controversy in the past as well but let me tell you what he said. He's on Seth what's the guy's name? Seth Meyers. So watch what he says to Seth Meyers in this he goes there his words he says it's tough luck for the Democratic Party it's time to re strip down and rebuild the whole thing. Maybe we're not going to play the whole clip. It's $1.50. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob.

Starting point is 00:38:29 Watch this. I feel like the Democratic Party under Joe Biden did a lot of things for working class voters. Certainly, inflation was a giant issue. Messaging as well. Do you feel like they just failed to message what they had done for and had planned for the economy? It is tough love time for the Democratic Party.

Starting point is 00:38:46 I think it needs to be stripped down and rebuilt. I think that means a change in leadership. Damn. That's Obama he's talking to. I want to know who thought it was a good idea. Obama's the leader. Joe Biden stand for another four years at 80 years of age and 37% popularity. So then that saddled the party with a British-like short campaign season for them.

Starting point is 00:39:09 I think it's insulting when members of the working class, which the Democratic Party has lost entirely in our lifetimes, to insist the economy is doing great. A 12-pack of bounding is $40. Rich folks don't feel that. Poor folks already switched to Sparkle during the COVID, during the lockdown. And I think telling them that the NASDAQ is gangbusters is further insulting.

Starting point is 00:39:39 It's insulting, I think, the biggest unforced error of the Biden administration by far was the border. To tell people it's not a problem is insulting. For the working class to see incoming migrants getting welcome bags, debit cards, and motel rooms is probably insulting as well. So there is a lot of work to do. You know, it was when they handed out camo hats that said Harris Walls and the

Starting point is 00:40:06 Democrats were, they were kind of charmed by that. Their party has gone quinoa and the rest of America's eating at Cracker Barrel. And so it was kind of an ironic use of something millions of Americans put on their heads to start their day every day. Wow, I didn't see that. By the way, you can't put it better than the way a Democrat put it. A Democrat that's been in this space that was part of mainstream, he's telling you, this is the problem, to the face of a guy that is all in for all of those things that he trashed.

Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah. So imagine his audience has been hearing him say all this stuff, look at the great economy, look at what's going on, I was like, no man, you've been fooling people as well, you're part of the problem. To his face. So Pat, who steps up?

Starting point is 00:40:56 Okay, Obama, done. Hillary, yes, she's hinting, she's, who's gonna step up for the Democratic Party, I'm being genuine, and be like, all right guys, no more of this race shit LGBTQ whatever this dear sensitive crap We have to admit that the borders is who's gonna step up for them and be like listen This is how we're gonna do it all you old people get the hell out we have to go new

Starting point is 00:41:17 You know who had a shot I mean Rob just pulled this up if you want to zoom in a little bit Rob Who the Democratic voters want to see run in 2020? Kamala's at 37%. Which by the way, if you're conservative, that's great. Yeah, please. Fantastic, please run her. Gavin Newsom seven. Satan's son.

Starting point is 00:41:32 Fantastic Pete four. Whitmer three. They don't have anybody. Josh Shapiro three. Michelle Obama two. They have nobody. Bernie two. Tim Walz won undecided 35%.

Starting point is 00:41:40 Whoever the undecided guy is, he should go. Because that, you know, and he. Here's what I would say when it comes down to this there were moments and this is a missed opportunity on him the one guy on this list that's the most formidable is who who's the most Shapiro Shapiro and who's a second most form of Gavin Newsom okay perfect so let's go through those two guys Shapiro and policy Newsom on presence and there and remember the one thing I've learned in

Starting point is 00:42:05 my lifetime is do you think Trump is the smartest when it comes onto policy? No. Out of all them I think, out of all the Republican candidates 2016, he is definitely not the smartest on policy. Who is the most qualified lawyer, military, policy, worked in Congress, worked as a Senate, worked as a governor, ran as a state, knows the swamp, is he the most qualified? The answer is he is not the most qualified. He's the best marketer. You won't like the name, but the one who's probably... Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz.

Starting point is 00:42:37 Ted Cruz, if you take away how he says it and how he upsets people, and you were just to look at... If he wrote it down and you read it you would say whoever wrote this paper here is the guy. I'm with you but guess what my point is? You know what we've learned? Market doesn't care who's the smartest. Yeah you're right. No, no I'm telling you.

Starting point is 00:42:53 You're right. Market doesn't care who's sitting the market's like who do I think is gonna get the job done? Period. We're so much like you go you wanna like I remember one time I went to one of my guys is like hey you want to meet the smartest guy that knows every single word in the Bible. I'm like, what are you talking about? He says, you give him any scripture and he's going to tell you exactly what it is. He's memorized the entire Old and New Testament.

Starting point is 00:43:14 I said, get out of here. He says, no, you've got to come this Sunday and see him in service. I go to his service. There's less than 100 people in this guy's church. He's been doing it for 20 years. And I said, wait a minute, this is the guy? He says, yeah. He says, you want to meet him afterwards?

Starting point is 00:43:28 Ask him any question. I said, yeah. Afterwards we'll meet him. I'm like, what about this? And what about that? Boom, boom, boom. Just random. You open up the Bible to him, Deuteronomy.

Starting point is 00:43:36 Not stuff like Proverbs, you know, whatever. He's got it. Now walk away now. You know what I asked the guy? I said, if he knows so much about the Bible, how come no one comes to his church who's been doing this for 20 years? Because he doesn't know how to baptize. He doesn't know how to deliver the message.

Starting point is 00:43:51 Newsome knows how to deliver the message. Newsome showed signs of going to the center a little bit. Remember when Tom would say, here's another opportunity, here's another chance that he's shown that he's going to center, he's doing this. He's doing that and then what does he do? He fumbles it again. Look at this year Newsom proposes electric vehicle tax rebate plan Make up your mind. Do you want us to drive electric or gas?

Starting point is 00:44:18 What is the incentive tell us? Okay. I'm gonna read this Rob and then you can play the clip Newsom has proposed a new electric vehicle rebate program that may exclude Tesla. A move that has drawn an ire from CEO Elon Musk, the initiative aims to revitalize the state's clean vehicle rebate program which was phased out in 2023 and as a response to President-elect Donald Trump's plans to eliminate federal tax credits for EVs must criticize the proposal as insane, highlighting that Tesla is the only electric vehicle manufacturer in California and previously received a significant portion of state rebates. Newsom's office contends that excluding larger market players like Tesla could foster competition

Starting point is 00:45:00 amongst automakers. The proposal, which would necessitate negotiations with the state legislature, is seen as part Tesla's electric vehicles would likely not qualify for California's new state tax credits. That's under a proposal in the works if President-elect Donald Trump scraps the credit for EV purchases. The update came from the state's Governor Gavin Newsom's office on Monday. It prompted Tesla shares to close down 4 percent and fall another 1.2 percent in after-hours trading. Reuters reported this month that Trump's transition team is considering eliminating the federal tax credit of $7,500 for EV sales. Tesla CEO Elon Musk, a close Trump advisor, sharply criticised the idea of barring the automaker from EV subsidies. He wrote on X in response,

Starting point is 00:45:58 even though Tesla is the only company who manufactures their EVs in California, this is insane. The state faces financial headwinds with an estimated $2 billion budget deficit next year. EVs account for 22% of California's car sales. But Musk and Newsom have clashed over a number of state policies. These include the shutting of a Tesla factory during the pandemic and California's approval of a bill on transgender children. In 2021, Tesla moved its headquarters from California to Texas. Musk said this year that his other companies such as SpaceX and social media platform X will follow suit. By the way, 56% of new EV sales in California last quarter, according to Bloomberg, were

Starting point is 00:46:46 all what? Tesla. That's Tesla. 56% and you're doing something like this. Tom, what are your thoughts on this year? First of all, let's just look at the facts before I go off. So Newsom's office says excluding larger market players like Tesla, no No excluding Tesla could foster competition among automakers But wait a minute

Starting point is 00:47:09 No other EV manufacturers make anything in California So because you're having a hissy fit over Elon Musk and you're gonna do this You're gonna cause others to compete with Tesla, but there's 27,000 Californians employed by Tesla, including 22,000 at the factory in Fremont. Let me pronounce Fremont, San Francisco Bay Area. So it's the most liberal of the liberal areas of the state, and you have 22,000 Californians that work there.

Starting point is 00:47:39 Meanwhile, your governor's going to say, there needs to be more competition. And if there's more competition and it's successful, some of those people could get laid off. Isn't that shocking? So I look at that and I'm like what are you doing? The other side of it is you're basically playing the same hissy fit retaliation. This is how liberals retaliate. This is and I'll prove it. The 2021 Biden White House EV summit. Who did they not invite? If you go back and look at the articles there, there were two articles that were written in the mainstream media that said that was the point where Musk went from neutral to breaking from the Democrats that that was Musk saying, well, that's the last straw.

Starting point is 00:48:28 And what did he do to them? He basically put jet fuel in the Trump campaign, supporting it with all the things he did. And so he is in no small part a very active participant in the defeat of Joe Biden. And now you're sitting here, Gavin Newsom, basically throwing a fit, saying you're you're sitting here Gavin Newsom Basically throwing a fit saying you're gonna eliminate some subsidies and by the way You're trying to get to 30% EVs in California You saw that announcement right big thing and yet you're gonna make the EV more expensive for Californians And you're gonna put some Californian jobs at risk

Starting point is 00:49:02 But he's gonna run to the microphone the slick guy that he is and he's gonna put some Californian jobs at risk, but he's gonna run to the microphone, the slick guy that he is, and he's gonna put the spin on it. But the truth, the absolute truth, is this is an absolute wrong-headed policy that Democrat congressmen, Democrat congressmen talking about US congressmen, Democrats in California are saying,

Starting point is 00:49:21 what are we doing? What are we doing here? Yeah, but the reason why we went into this story with Newsom is the following. Newsom has a shot at 2028. So who is gonna be, when Brian Williams is saying, we need to get rid of everything that they've done and start all over, right?

Starting point is 00:49:40 Okay, leadership at the top. Who is the voice of the Democratic Party? It's Obama. It's Barack. Okay, and who do you put in the top. Who is the voice of the Democratic Party? It's Obama. It's Barack. Okay, and who do you put in the top five today? Who are the voices of the Democratic Party? Barack, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer. Soros has to be in there because he's the money guy.

Starting point is 00:49:58 Yeah, he's the brain. So he's in the top five. Not George, little Soros. Little Soros, oh yeah, Alex. And then you got a few other names that you're thinking about, right? Okay, so somebody has to come in. Think about who is the Soros. Little Soros. Oh yeah, Alex. And then you got a few other names that you're thinking about, right? So somebody has to come in.

Starting point is 00:50:07 Think about who is the Soros of the right today? Who is the Soros? Elon Musk. Of course it is. And it's not even close. And Soros going against Elon Musk, who is more powerful? Elon Musk. It's not even close.

Starting point is 00:50:17 Yeah. Because Soros doesn't know how to, he's not out there. Elon is. And he's got a very hard time competing against Elon. He wishes he had Elon's type of money. He's still gonna do his part, he's still gonna play his game, but it's not gonna work when it comes down to going up against the Musk. There needs to be an outsider, because look what's going on here that even Ilhan Omar comes out and says, what the hell were you thinking

Starting point is 00:50:43 Harrison Waltz when you started courting Liz Cheney, she called it a huge misstep. By the way, it is. Here's a person that when Christian Bale won the Oscar, and he says, I want to thank the devil for allowing me to play this movie. He called Dick Cheney the devil when he won. Do you guys not remember the speech? So you are able to say that at freaking Oscars after you win for the movie Vice and now you want to go get, you think American people forgot? So you want American people to go back, I don't know if we can pay it, if we get flagged or not, but that's the speech. Will we get flagged Rob or no?

Starting point is 00:51:25 Because it's- No we're talking, we're commentating on it. Okay go ahead, play the clip. Is this the one Rob? It is but it's two minutes and sixteen seconds long. I think he says it in the first ten seconds. Let's see if this is what it is. I think he says it right off the bat.

Starting point is 00:51:35 Oh look at all of us. What a bunch of lucky buggers we are right? To make a life out of doing something that we love. That's extraordinary. Thank you for allowing me to be a part of that for so many years. Thank you to my beautiful wife, who told me less is more. Say less right now, she knows the dumb crap that can come out of my mouth at times. I can sink and ruin a perfectly good movie and a so-so career in one speech. So thank you for that advice my

Starting point is 00:52:06 love I wouldn't be working without her and thank you for our beautiful children Banana and Burrito you know they give me a love and a soul that I never thought possible thank you to that geezer over there Adam you can find a short-oclip when he gets to it, he gets right to it. He literally says Satan. Yeah, he says the Satan or devil. He says I want to thank him because without him I would have never played a role. But anyways, so you do that.

Starting point is 00:52:33 So now they're all behind closed doors, but here's the part. This is exactly where, in the Republican Party right now, there are no opportunities. You know why? Why are there no opportunities today in the Republican Party? Because Trump owns the party and then you have JD Vance that's going to be right now? There are no opportunities. You know why? Why are there no opportunities today in the Republican Party? Because Trump owns the party and then you have JD Vance that's going to be right there? Let me tell you why. No, because there's the Republican Party today under Trump, they don't need anything.

Starting point is 00:52:57 You're right. There is no problem to solve. They got the right people. Yup, and the right policies and the right team. For example, like, you know, hey, I want to be the governor of such and such great guys are right now reaching out to me hey who do you think is going to be the next governor of Florida? You want to run after DeSantis? He's done a great job. Go ahead. What are you going to solve? Tell me what he's done that you're going to do better than DeSantis. Go ahead. The only you know what I'm saying like you got to flip one and a half million votes. Or the next senator. Marco Rubio is heating up.

Starting point is 00:53:26 There literally, there's more opportunities on the Democratic party right now than the Republican party. Because under the Republican party, you can't be an outsider and say, you see, the reason why Trump didn't win is because of that. You don't have that ability. It's done. There is no argument. So many establishment Republicans were waiting for him to lose to say, this is why our way

Starting point is 00:53:47 and if you guys would have listened to us, right? Guess what? The Democratic Party has that opportunity. You got a good argument, this is the time for you to come out and show your argument because they're in shambles right now. They are in shambles right now. By the way, you know who that could be? Let me tell you who that could be.

Starting point is 00:54:04 That could be a common sense outsider that has a lot of money. That could be a common sense outsider with a lot of wealth, a lot of finances who can come in and say, look guys, if you guys wanna go this route, I'm not with it. If you guys wanna go this crazy, I'm not with it. If you guys wanna go on, you know,

Starting point is 00:54:24 transgender puberty blocker, I'm not with it. If you guys want to go transgender, puberty blocker, I'm not with it. I'm for this. I'm for boom, boom, boom, boom. If you're for boom, boom, boom, boom, I'm in. If not, I'm out. So this is the problem. Rogan's doing a podcast, I think yesterday, he's talking to Mark Andreessen and he tells Mark, he says hey

Starting point is 00:54:50 they keep talking about they gotta go find their next Joe Rogan on the left. Joe says you had him I was with you you lost me what do you mean go find a Joe Rogan on the left I was you and now you're asking him is this the one Rob? No hang on I'm looking for it. You'll see'll see it, you'll see it. You had me and now you wanna go out there and say, you're gonna find the next Joe Rogan. Now they gotta go build the next Joe Rogan on. Who is it, Alice Cooper? Alice Cooper's not Joe Rogan? No.

Starting point is 00:55:13 Is that her name by the way? I won't say correctly, I don't wanna. Alex Cooper. Alex Cooper, it's not. Call her daddy. No IA and not the N, right? So, Alex Cooper. Yeah, so, Alex is not Armenian.

Starting point is 00:55:21 Alex Cooper, yeah, right? So, Alex Cooper, you think she's gonna be the next Rogan? Who's gonna be the next Rogan So Alex Cooper, you think she's going to be the next Rogan? Who's going to be the next Rogan on the left? And by the way, what is the next Rogan? You know what is the next Rogan? Yesterday I'm talking to Kevin McCarthy and we're having a conversation about a book. He's always such a big reader, so he's always like, we share books with each other. He says in the book, Think Again, you know what's the concept about the book, Think Again?

Starting point is 00:55:42 It's like, it's okay to be wrong and think again. I think it's by the guy Adam Grant, he wrote another book called Originals, which I freaking love. It's like, hey, and by the way, this guy's a liberal himself, the author, but it's okay. So if the Democrats can't think again and you're stubborn to your old policies that you can't let go, guess what? You may be destroyed for many, many, many years to come because right now, they have these predictions, Rob.

Starting point is 00:56:10 I don't know which page it's at, if you can help me out. That says the picks of the left and the right of president for 2028. And they have the favorites. It's on one of these pages. I just looked, oh, there it is. It's on page seven. Poll reveals who Democrats and Republicans

Starting point is 00:56:23 want to run in 2028. Here's a poll showing the left and the right. Is this the one on the left? Yes. Okay, so we just showed that. Can you go to the one on the right? Look at the one on the right. If you got it, that'd be great to show it.

Starting point is 00:56:34 Here's the one on the right. Look at that. Boom. Look at that. It's not even close. JD's 30. Ron is 5. Vivek 3.

Starting point is 00:56:42 Haley 2. RFK is now considered a Republican. Wow. Tulsi won, 51% undecided, right? So, you go to JD, okay? Trump goes the way he's going. By the way, you guys remember when I said, pre-election, it's Trump won, then everybody else?

Starting point is 00:57:01 I said post-election, enemy of the state number one is going to be who? Musk, then JD, then Trump and everyone else It's already happening. You know what stories are circulating right now. Let me tell you what stories are circulating right now they're showing pictures of Trump standing in the back next to Musk while Musk is speaking and Trump's looking like Okay, because what they're trying to do now is, and I called it, that's the one right there, fifth one.

Starting point is 00:57:28 Fifth one, Rob. No, that's not, there's one other one you'll see where he's looking at him with a frown. I think he just showed it. Yeah, so he's, that's not the one, that's another one. So anyways, this is what they're gonna be doing. What they're gonna be doing right now is the following. You know what the perfect play is?

Starting point is 00:57:46 Let me tell you what the perfect play is. Oh, and it could work. I hope it doesn't work, but it could work. What I love about what Musk said is, I don't want any credit, I don't want any awards, I don't want any money, I just wanna make America great. I don't want nothing. It's a beautiful thing because sometimes they say

Starting point is 00:58:04 the best CIA agents, when I interviewed this lady who was a CIA agent of 2020, or Jonah Mendez, I said, what makes for a great CIA agent? Do you remember her answer? No. She said, somebody that's a great salesperson, great negotiator, extremely charming, extremely charismatic, hardworking,

Starting point is 00:58:19 phenomenal at everything they do, but when they meet somebody, they don't go and brag about who they met and post a picture all over social media and tag it oh look who I am right they are willing they saved the free world and they don't want the credit for it that's the right CIA agent right sometimes that makes for somebody that's a good right-hand guy a good running mate somebody that is not like looking for that credit Elon Musk is showing that. I'm the richest man in the world

Starting point is 00:58:47 and I want nothing from you Trump, but they're gonna do the following. And I'm telling you it could work effectively if it gets under Trump's skin. And here's what it is. 40 laws of power, law number one Rob. Can you go to 40 laws of power, law number one? Do you know what law number one is?

Starting point is 00:59:02 Never outshine the master. Never outshine the master. Law number is? Never outshine the master. Never outshine the master. Law number one, never outshine the master. For the next four years, nobody can outshine Trump. And I mean nobody. If anything happens and credit is given and they spin it, this is how they do it. You ready

Starting point is 00:59:30 Elon Musk is Trump's puppet master That's what they're going to do That's coming soon Guy man, acted me yesterday says everything you said about Zuck because as you and Trump are time travelers You guys are like you're predicting all this stuff and it was a funny thing that he's saying But I I know they have to create that friction between those two. It's not even JD right now They'll do JD and you're 34 But they have to do Musk right now you're one you're two First they're gonna have to find that play between the two and they're gonna have to write it all over the place cover of time

Starting point is 01:00:01 Magazine it's got to be a puppet master what do you call it a Picture of musk and trump on the bottom holding them just to poke the bear That's what they're going to do and they're going to say The president of the united states is really elon musk. It's not trump Elon musk is the president of the united states and he's toying with trump And they're going to poke the bear poke the bear poke the United States and he's toying with Trump. And they're gonna poke the bear, poke the bear, poke the bear. And I just pray and hope it does nothing to Trump. I pray and hope when that comment is made,

Starting point is 01:00:36 Musk attacks whoever wrote it because they're going to do it. It is coming. Whenever you go up against a divisive community who the way there's two types of people who win in life, Vinny. It's very weird. They compete in a very different way. The one type that wins is the guy that's willing to go to work, solve the problem, recruit the people, raise the money, be patiently aggressive, eventually boom! we win. Yes.

Starting point is 01:01:05 And look at what we built. But the opposition is the one that wins by preventing you from winning, spreading rumors, spreading disinformation, throwing you under the bus, propaganda, pinning you against your people, internally getting in a web and using phrases like, you see you never get credit. Everyone's this, you know without you Trump would have never won. You're the reason why he won Pennsylvania. You're the reason why this, if you would have done that, do you realize that you're the

Starting point is 01:01:35 person that may pull this off? Do you realize that you were the one that had a, that's how they play. And by the way, sometimes this is more effective short term. This is effective long term, but this is more effective short-term. This is effective long-term, but this is effective short-term Look what happened when he's like, yeah, they got me for six years Russia collusion who else did they get for six years? But guess what? It was effective enough to not win in 2020 Yeah, it was effective enough when 51 CIA secret Intel intelligent officers. I said there's nothing in that laptop. It worked It's effective to say hey Dorsey don't post that story up from New York Post. It worked. These guys are great at winning short-term

Starting point is 01:02:11 But they ruin marriages. They ruin incredible alliances. They destroyed great relationships. They destroyed great empires this movie that came out gladiator 2 Denzel plays the villain who goes and divides the two brothers, helps one brother kill the other brother. That's the story. Short term, he wins. Long term, listen, it's fine long term, but this is only a four year term. And in four years, you're going to see, I'm convinced this image I just told you is coming very soon. I'm convinced they're going to play this card very soon. And so the fact that it's out there, I hope people are talking about this, you know, where they're going to play this card.

Starting point is 01:02:56 And I just hope Trump's folks are preparing for this. They're going to do it. They're going to do it. They're going to do it. And then if it's across the board with everybody, time, CNN, MSNBC, you know, Politico, Vanity Fair, every one of them is playing to this card. 40 laws of power, law number one. Never outshine the master. And I'm convinced the person that's going to prevent this from happening is Musk. Because Musk doesn't care to get the credit. Musk is a true believer.

Starting point is 01:03:30 Musk I believe is doing it because he really believes in something or else how much more money do you need? If it was anybody else, I think it could work. I don't think it could work just because I think it's Musk. Just because, because I think Musk is a natural, organic flag carrier Do you understand what i'm saying with this whole messaging? So for me That's why I said an outsider in the democratic party could come in but that person needs to come in and say hey obama Let's face it. You've lost credibility. We're still gonna need you but this is not working the stuff we're pitching and someone that everybody in that room

Starting point is 01:04:01 respects and fears that has money and clout Who that is? I don't know. I don't know who that is, but it's got to be somebody that's respected, feared, will clout to do it, or else the other side's going to be sweeping for potentially 12 years. 12 years. JD, two terms, Trump, one term. We could be looking at till 2038 a Republican White House in America. Can I give you some validity to that?

Starting point is 01:04:23 Yeah, of course. So this whole conversation started off with Vinny's question of what's going to happen at the Democratic Party? How are they going to rebuild this? I've been thinking about this. I'm sort of sitting on this. It's not going to just be a little bit of change. It's not a good amount of change. It's going to take a radical amount of change. It makes me think of the story of a PBD 2003, 2004,

Starting point is 01:04:45 where you said, I think it was when your dad had a heart attack. By the way, love you, Papa, happy Thanksgiving. You said, I'm done. Don't call me to go to the club anymore. I'm not drinking, I'm reading, I'm not listening to the radio anymore. I'm not going on dates.

Starting point is 01:04:59 You went 18 months without sex. Unbelievable. 17 months. Okay, sorry about that. I tried to give you a little extra credit right there, but you had to make remember people. You okay? You offended? Good. Um, but radical, I felt bad for the girl. She's 17, but it took a radical amount of change. Think about this. The last time the Democrats were in this position, you talked about 12 years. Think about what happened in 1980. Reagan shows up. It's a

Starting point is 01:05:29 past favorite president ever. Jimmy Carter, 12 years, Democrats control the country, two terms of Reagan. He comes in in 1980, 1984. He blows out Walter Mondale. I think it was 49 to one. The only state they won was Tim Walz's favorite state, Minnesota, Walter Mondale, electoral college landslide 5, 25, 13 blowout, 12 years of Republicans. And then Bill Clinton shows up. And if not for Ross Perot showing up, talking about the flat tax, then George W. Bush, HW Bush, he might've won that presidency. Who's the one person that, that George Bush senior will not talk about. He won't talk about Ross, bro. Bill Clinton shows up, boom balances the budget, but the democratic party is going to have to have a radical transformation. They're going to have to take a long look

Starting point is 01:06:18 in the mirror. How do you lose the unions, bro? How do you lose the teamsters? These guys are in bed with the Democrats forever. The teamsters, the UAW, the unions, who did they endorse this year? Nobody. They're saying, now we're not playing this game. This common sense, reason, and being reasonable. Right? So enough with the races and not everything is misogynist. The DEI, the woke stuff, Brian Williams, He talked about that guy seems pretty reasonable seems pretty common sense I would call that guy at JFK Democrat Maybe even a Clinton Democrat a guy like that's looking at the modern Democratic Party and being like what the hell is going on here But there's gonna have to be massive up people why?

Starting point is 01:06:58 because unlike 1992 the universities are Walker than ever the The universities are woker than ever. The social media companies are woker than ever. The lame stream media woker than ever. Hollywood woker than ever. You see speaking of Hollywood, you saw what Sharon stones said, said about basically how Americans are just uneducated. They're idiots out of touch. Not give a shout out to Hall and Oates, but the most out of touch there is, is what you're

Starting point is 01:07:22 talking about with Gavin Newsom, just to kind of put a ribbon on this thing. How when Biden didn't invite Elon Musk to the white house for the EV summit, hello, that's like, Hey guys, we're going to have all the best players and all of sports show up today. You don't invite Patrick Bahomes. You don't invite messy. You don't invite Luca. You don't invite LeBron Ohtani.

Starting point is 01:07:42 Sorry, your invite got sent to Japan, my bad. Aaron Judge, how do you leave Elon Musk out of anything that has to do with TV? It's double done. But by the way, you know, you have a point, a Ross Perot type of person has to come out. A Ross Perot. But my concern is they've lost them all. Well, they got Mark Cuban.

Starting point is 01:08:04 They've lost and Mark Cuban's not the guy. He's showed, he's not. Sexist comments are not good. There's a word that he's missing something. The it, there's a word. It's not the it, he has the it. He's missing something. He's missing the.

Starting point is 01:08:18 Common sense? No, he's missing. The non-lesbian glasses? No, you know what it is. He's missing the energy you give of people liking you. I just don't think he's likable. Ooh, the charisma? No, he's-

Starting point is 01:08:32 The likability factor? You know what he is? He wants to talk to you and make you feel dumb. And Ted Cruz does that. He's got a little bit of Ted Cruz on the left. Oh, you're talking about this community? Yeah, he's a little bit of that community. He doesn't have the gravitas that he thinks he's a little bit of. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Michael believed that. You know, Elon believes that. Trump definitely believes that.

Starting point is 01:09:07 But their way of believing that matches their personality, that it comes across still in a way that's attractive. I think it's something he can never do anything about. It's his DNA personality. It's not attractive. It's not attractive. Can I tell you what it is? What's that?

Starting point is 01:09:23 Value attainment. If we were just value, I don't think we would have the same Gravitas Vinny. Thank you. Okay in the ecosystem right here there and you know this as a comedian and Tom You're one of the funniest guys ever we get it the power of making somebody laugh the power of communicating something like This guy's pretty cool. You ever see somebody, they're smart, they're on point, they're sharp, but they don't got the vibe. They don't get the charisma. You just don't resonate with them. Making somebody call it the res.

Starting point is 01:10:00 My kids are teaching me all these weird words. You know who got the res? Who? Dilly boy. And you know who got the Riz? Who? Dilly Boy. Dilly Boy got the Riz. And you know who's developing the Riz? He is as well. Tico. He's a dangerous Riz.

Starting point is 01:10:09 But you know what I'm saying? Tico didn't have the Riz a couple years ago. Listen, I will tell you, the dynamic of speaking to an audience where all of it is there, where a part of it is just regular people, a part of it is moral authority, a part of it is humor, a part of it is curiosity, a part of it is just regular people, a part of it is moral authority, a part of it is humor, a part of it is curiosity, a part of it is certain values and principles that you're not willing to compromise,

Starting point is 01:10:31 and the audience says, well, I relate to that. Oh, great. You know, we ran the poll, what percentage of you guys think the word deer is offensive? 9% said it's offensive. Really, 9% said it's offensive. Well, you know what's impressive? To the 9%.

Starting point is 01:10:45 Sorry, dear. Very creepy. Dear 9%. By the way, I'm being honest with you guys. Sincerely, the fact that you took time away on a Thursday Thanksgiving morning to be with us still says you support the fact that we're having a conversation.

Starting point is 01:11:04 And I love you for it. Sincerely. I got a message, somebody sent me a message that says, you know, I cannot believe that was the shittiest da da da da da. I said, listen, don't you love the fact that you can message me on Manect and pay for it and I have to respond back and it allows you to talk shit to me directly? Don't you love that that exists for you on Manect? Yes, we started laughing having a good time exchange this morning going back in for Bovenia

Starting point is 01:11:27 I think you want to say so and this is going into that wedge that you were talking about with Trump and then Elon and This is a story that you have Pat the Mark Zuckerberg going to Mar-a-Lago yesterday I saw something and then I saw a clip where he's talking Tom and Elon's like so much like hey You think you fight him Elon? I have never he's like, I will beat his ass any day, anytime, whenever you want. So I think him going there, and I guess it was, who's, is it Jim Miller? The new guy that's the bald guy? Steven Miller.

Starting point is 01:11:55 Steven Miller is coming in and he's recognizing that Trump is an agent of change and prosperity and that Zuck wants to be a part of it. And so I kind of feel like, how do you think Elon's taking that, where this guy's coming in there to do with it? Well, let's read this. Let's read this. Zuckerberg dines with Trump at Mar-a-Lago and marking a notable meeting between a Facebook founder and a former president who had been banned from the platform after January 6,

Starting point is 01:12:21 2021, capital attack. A Metta spokesperson confirms Zuckerberg was invited to discuss the incoming administration with Trump's deputy chief of staff, Stephen Miller, stating Zuckerberg wants to support the national renewal of America's under Trump's leadership. Zuckerberg has shifted toward a more passive, positive stance on Trump praising his handling of an assassination attempt as bad as earlier this year and accusing Biden administration of pressuring the Facebook to censor, by the way, this is AP News, to censor COVID-19 content despite this Trump recently mocked Zuckerberg on truth social warning Zucker bucks be careful while referencing election fraud claims. Okay so this is this is a couple things here to be thinking about on one end of time. I'm gonna come to you right after this. On one, to me, is, Zuck is, we're forgetting that,

Starting point is 01:13:10 how old was Zuck when he started Facebook Rob? He was like 21 from his own college. So how old was Zuck when he started? I'm actually curious, was he 19 or 20? I'm trying to see the exact, 19 years old. Okay, so he was 19 years old when he started Metta. So can you Google who are Zuckerberg's parents? Who are Zuckerberg's parents?

Starting point is 01:13:33 Like what do they do? I'm curious. Is there anything about his parents? So Edward Zuckerberg, can you zoom him? Is there anything to find out who he is? Dentist, father. Okay, how about his mother? Let's see what his mother, zoom in, psychiatrist.

Starting point is 01:13:47 Edmund and Karen Zuckerberg. And look at that picture right there, mom, dad, and himself in the middle, right? That looks like a liberal family, right? Doing all the right things, going to Harvard, look, it looks like a family hardworking, but at the same time, academia, you know, you gotta go to school, you gotta go to the same time, academia, you know, you got to go to school,

Starting point is 01:14:05 you got to go to the right school, all that stuff. And we automatically expect this guy in his 20s to already know what's right and what's wrong. And then he happens to become a billionaire very early. Then this thing grows into the biggest community worldwide. How many users does Facebook have Rob? I think it's like 2.2 billion. I may be off by a few hundred million,

Starting point is 01:14:27 but it's a lot of people. 90% of those are grandmas. How many, three billion users on Facebook. Active monthly users, damn! That's active, okay? 68.85 of the total monthly users log in on their mobile device monthly. That's a pretty impressive number.

Starting point is 01:14:46 But does that count Instagram, WhatsApp, everything? This just says Facebook. So then you go look at Instagram, then you go look up he owns WhatsApp. He owns all these companies. And what is his net worth today, Rob, if you type in his Mark Zuckerberg net worth? $110 billion I'm giving? Maybe more than that at this point? $200 billion. Wow! Yeah, that's what I'm saying to you. But where at this point. Well, 200 billion. Wow.

Starting point is 01:15:05 Yeah, that's what I'm saying to you. But where was it two years ago? I think it was half of that. Yeah, no, no, less than half of that. Wow. So, 198 billion dollars. This guy's crushing it. Yeah, of course he is.

Starting point is 01:15:12 He's a top five guy right now. Wow. So, he's in there, he's like, hey, listen, I understand there's all these other guys. Just so you know, I'm the youngest guy worth 200 billion dollars in the world. Bezos in his 50s, Musk is in his 50s, Bezos is 60s.

Starting point is 01:15:28 Gates is in his 60s, 70s, Buffett's in his 80s. So he's like, guys, I can also change. Larry's in his 70s. Larry's in his 70s. So he starts hanging out with Jiu Jitsu guys, UFC guys. He changes. He starts looking at what's going on, and he's, by the way, one of the best things happens

Starting point is 01:15:46 when your parents get a divorce, you learn about both families a lot when you're going through a divorce. Think about when you're the CEO, the owner of the biggest social media site worldwide, and both the left and the right are calling you, asking favors and trying to run campaigns. You know what you'll learn? You'll learn both of them, how they approach you. Which one approaches you and the right are calling you, asking favors and trying to run campaigns. You know what you'll learn?

Starting point is 01:16:05 You'll learn both of them how they approach you. Which one approaches you in trying to negotiate with you? Which one approaches you with threats? You understand what happened right there? So imagine you are learning, dude, these guys on the left are threatening me. What is this all about? If I don't do this, we're gonna do this.

Starting point is 01:16:19 The other side is just trying to convince me. So one is trying to sell me, the other one's trying to threaten me. I'm not part of the threatening community. I build a freaking, I've done more in my life than any one of you guys has done combined. You 2,000 politicians combined don't have my network. What do you think? I brought a lot of value to the world to myself at a young age. So now he's evolving. I think Zuck right now, as much slack as everybody's given him, I think Zuck at 50 years old maybe even sooner Zucks gonna be a player and

Starting point is 01:16:48 When I tell you he's gonna be a player, I think he's gonna be a player. Unfortunately right now. He's getting criticized they show the picture of a Elon and have you seen that picture where Elon and Trump they're having the lunch the make McDonald's on the plane and then Zuckerberg's outside the window. Have you guys seen that picture or no? Can you find that? Is there a picture with Zuckerberg? If you keep looking through them, you'll find it. He's outside the window. He's trying to look in. It's actually a really really phenomenal image to show that he's an outsider that wants to be on the inside. Oh you you should zoom those in to see if they're in there, the top one.

Starting point is 01:17:25 Oh, so you see that window right there? Yeah, they put his face. The meme put Zuckerberg's big picture out there like, hey, I'd love to be on the inside. I understand that. And it's gonna hurt a little bit. I get it, because Elon Musk went all in. And there's a risk when he went all in.

Starting point is 01:17:37 And he deserves everything he's getting. Everything he's getting. But Zuck made the right move when he wrote that letter to Jim Jordan. Zuck made the right move when he wrote that letter to Jim Jordan. Zuck made the right move when he called out Biden. Zuck made the right move when he said that was a badass move by the president. And Zuck is himself kind of going through the evolution of recreating himself and I'm okay with that.

Starting point is 01:17:58 And by the way, on the flip side, you know what I love about Ilan? I also love that Ilan is staying paranoid. If Ilan and Trump are speaking privately, you know what Ilan's probably telling Trump? Hey, don't trust him too early. Let's not trust him too early. Let's not trust him too early. Let's not trust him too early.

Starting point is 01:18:15 I'm convinced that it's taking place. Go ahead, Tom. Well, I follow the logic and I agree with you on much of that. But I also think that Zuck is being led at gunpoint and it's guns that he's loaded over the course of Facebook. There are five actions that all are incredibly threatening to Metta in front of the federal government right now.

Starting point is 01:18:40 One, the COVID censorship and the censorship of right-wing media. Hearings are gonna come up and there's oversight committees, things that there are, Now, one, the COVID censorship and the censorship of right-wing media, hearings are going to come up and there's some oversight committees, things that there are and down the street, Google is being broken up. Then there's the FCC section 230. That is not going away. It's coming back and there'll be hearings on that in the spring on section 230, Pat.

Starting point is 01:19:00 And guess who's going to be back in front of Congress? Mark Zuckerberg the federal FTC on the Online ads and the monopoly that Facebook has they are Hearings coming and they've already told last week Google was cold. Maybe we'll just spin Chrome off and do something else It's the largest data gatherer that they have the Chrome browser and they're like, holy crap That's number three number four there are hearings that

Starting point is 01:19:25 are going to go on on young girls and the addiction and hurting themselves. And should there be limits on young girls? And there's already state attorney generals that are out there that are putting that. Number four. Number five, data use. When do you collect data, and how do you store it,

Starting point is 01:19:41 and does the user know about that? Hearings are coming up next summer on that. Those five reasons could take five dinners to talk about and I think Musk, you know, knows it. He understands it. He sees it. But Zuckerberg, I think Musk knows exactly why Zuckerberg would go in there.

Starting point is 01:20:01 Zuckerberg needs to, in addition to that letter to Jim Jordan, he needs to make nice with the new president and his head of the FTC, the head of the FTC, FCC, the censorship hearings, the Consumer Protection Agency, and Data Use Protection Group. So there's a lot of reasons for Zuck at gunpoint to go do this. We will find out as he- Can both be true at the same time? Huh- Can both be true at the same time?

Starting point is 01:20:25 Huh? Can both be true at the same time? Yes, they can be true at the same time and I'm anxious to see what shows up. Is it true or is it lobbying because he has to? What was, who was Elon Musk at 38 years old, 39 years old, 40 years old? Who was he?

Starting point is 01:20:42 Rocket making. Politically, where was he? How did he feel about Trump when he was 38, 39, 40 years old? He was he? Rocket making. Politically, where was he? How did he feel about Trump when he was 38, 39, 40 years old? He was leaning the opposite way. I think he was a non, he wasn't a militant. He was a liberal, but he wasn't militant. No, he was never militant. But was he active? But was he active in, hold on, was he active in literally taking down the president? Because let's not forget, from the Zucker bucks, from the 200 and God knows how many million, the damage has already been done. I think he's there, in my opinion, he's there to kiss the ring.

Starting point is 01:21:13 Let's not forget about all the stories, Tom, you nailed it. All the COVID, all the censorship, all the Hunter Biden, all that stuff. People like me, I want accountability. I've been saying that forever. We deserve it. From the Pelosi's to the holding down the, holding down the National Guard to Russia collusion, all those people that were involved, to Dr. Fauci, the people that have supported Trump from the beginning, have gotten lost friends, lost relationships.

Starting point is 01:21:36 I've lost opportunities because I was in Hollywood. We want accountability, okay? Because I talked to Rob about this when we came in. If Kamala Harris won, do you think that they'd give him any grace? Any grace would they stop any of these things like when they're talking about? Uh, I know we talked about it. They he should trump to be nice should pardon hunter biden and partner joe biden Any grace? Uh the the other side you think kamala would have graced? They have given trump at all. That's what i'm saying. So pat, what I'm saying is we deserve, and I don't want retribution, I don't want them

Starting point is 01:22:07 to, but we want a little bit of, okay, you messed up, there's your penalty. Hunter Biden, he belongs in prison. I know we're going to get there. That guy belongs in prison and Joe Biden should have been impeached. We want some accountability. Dr. Fauci, we want that too. So Zuckerberg, and you're right, Pat, it could kind of go both ways, but for what he did, that letter to me is just going, hey, let me just, I'm sorry, they were telling me,

Starting point is 01:22:34 the White House was telling me, no, no. When he wrote the letter, when he wrote the letter, if you remember when we talked about on the podcast, Rob, if you can remember when he wrote the letter, just find the dates, Dear Honorable Chairman Jordan, that's what the letter is, right? Jim Jordan. I actually think he said dear, which is, can you go to the letter? Is that the date?

Starting point is 01:22:53 Can you just click on the images? Can you go on the images? Let's see how he opens it up. Did he say dear, Pat? Dear Congressman? Your Honorable Chairman. Honorable Jim Jordan, yeah. So when he wrote this letter, what's the date on it? Did you say dear, dear congressman? Your honorable chairman. Honorable Jim Jordan. So when he wrote this letter, what's the date on it?

Starting point is 01:23:09 See if it says the date on this thing. August 26th. August 26th. August 26th, July 13th, that is six weeks after Trump got assassination attempt in, right? Okay. So when we responded to this, I said this is Zuck's way of saying he thinks Trump's winning. If you remember how we reacted to this, I said this is Zuck's way of saying he thinks Trump's winning. If you remember how we reacted to this, that was my position that I took.

Starting point is 01:23:32 But also at the same time, none of us knew. Let's face it, guys. On August 26th, everybody here wasn't Trump's winning. Let's not get a twist in. I wasn't 100% sure. No, everybody here was like, you know, 5149. Right? Yeah. And remember, this was still the honeymoon stages

Starting point is 01:23:54 of when did they announce Kamala? Can you? July 21st. July 21st, is that the date? Okay. Or is that the Biden letter or is that the Kamala date? So let's find out what the exact date. I'm trying to get sequencing down with this. I just want to know when they announced Biden stepping down

Starting point is 01:24:09 21st, okay, so July 21st, you got a spot on okay So when you look at that exactly five weeks later, he writes the letter five weeks later on Every poll she is still ahead and they were like she's gonna win, she's gonna this, she's gonna that, okay? Yeah, it was the anti-Biden bounce, she's our girl! Oh sure, okay. So he wrote that letter, do you know how risky of a letter that is to write?

Starting point is 01:24:35 Let me explain to you how risky of a letter that is to write. Let's say he writes that letter, there was another one or two attempts on Trump. If one succeeds, Kamala wins, what happens to him for the next four years with the left? Do you know what they do to him on Facebook? Oh, they will destroy him and humiliate him and do everything they can to hurt him? It's better to write that letter after somebody wins

Starting point is 01:25:08 Because it's safer the safer time to write the letter is after November 5th the safer time. Okay, you understand what I'm saying? Okay The risky time to write it is when? Five weeks after Kamala's announced and America's done with Biden after the debate with Trump which was embarrassing and the assassination attempt to realize that Trump can't, Biden cannot beat Trump they bring Kamala and Young, Fresh all this stuff right? He writes this letter. I'm convinced that he is going through the evolution himself. I'm convinced when they wrote that letter I guarantee you some people in his camp on his board who are on the left said,

Starting point is 01:25:45 don't write this letter. Imagine you have a board. Where's he based out of? Silicon Valley? I don't know where Facebook is. I'm gonna say somewhere in the Cupertino area. What percentage of his board do you think are left? Can you type in meta board?

Starting point is 01:26:00 Type in meta board of directors. Meta board of directors. I'm sorry, I'm gonna say 100%. I'm telling you this. So if you zoom in a little bit, okay, let's go through who it is. All right, so. Well, we know where he's from.

Starting point is 01:26:10 Go up, let's see Javier Olivan. Tom, do you know Javier or no? Zoom in a little bit to see what his background is and what he did. Prior to that, he was a product manager at Siemens Mobile, functional, okay, let's see who the next guy is. Nick, president of global affairs, president of global affairs at Metta.

Starting point is 01:26:27 What's his background prior to this? He was UK parliament in 2005, European commission, five years European parliament, liberal democrat party in 2007. He became the leader of the liberal democrat party 2007, the deputy prime minister in the UK, okay left, Susan Lee, you just saw Susan Lee, that's the lady that Tom was talking about who was involved in

Starting point is 01:26:47 the political stuff. Isn't this the same lady? Was that Nancy or Susan? No, that's Lindy Lee. Lindy, okay, go back. She might be her cousin. So this is, where was she at? Finance and business planning and treasury.

Starting point is 01:26:58 She joined the company, vice president of finance and business. 2000, she was in investment bank and Morgan Stanley. The likelihood of 80% of these guys being liberal, Andrew went to Harvard, Chris Cox, I don't know what his background is, what they're doing. The point is, Stanford, 80% of these guys are probably liberal. So now imagine you're going up there saying, guys, I want to send this letter out. What do you think they're telling him? Are you sure?

Starting point is 01:27:25 Tom, what do you think the board is telling Zuck? So Zuck was trying to find, I just sent you two clips, Rob, and if you could find the one from Wired. So Wired, fair to say, Bible of Silicon Valley, not bombastic, they carefully research stories, well-respected publication. Um, Facebook had been dealing with, um, the ire of the Democrats for a while.

Starting point is 01:27:54 And I do not believe for a second that it was lost on Zuckerberg that in many ways he was a man without a country. Wired. Here's how Facebook actually won Trump the presidency back back 2016 people were pissed at him because they were trying to do all the Russian collusion stuff, but People thought Facebook didn't do enough that actually had helped Trump influence voters through Facebook And they were pissed off about it and then then go to the next clip, Rob, this is very interesting. It was the one that was right there.

Starting point is 01:28:32 I just, that got those guys right there. Politico angry Democrats pose rising risk for Facebook. So Zuckerberg is felt the heat from the Dems that felt that he didn't stand in line enough. And so I think his board would have looked at it and say, Mark, the Dems have been upset with us for a while, I don't know if you wanna write this letter. Exactly, you validate my point even more, Tom,

Starting point is 01:28:56 because here's what happens. So Tom, let me explain to you. That's what I was doing. I know that. I was giving you facts. No, and I love that, but the point I'm trying to make is, I was thinking maybe you were gonna take a different angle. No, no, no. This is my concern is this time we're in the room. You've been in a room where people disagree with me and I'm by myself

Starting point is 01:29:10 going to win this thing. She's got a bounce. Why write the letter? I was in a board meeting guys. It was like I'm going against everybody against me. I'm like, what the F are you guys talking about? And it was three hours extended into a longer meeting. Sometimes the COVID policy discussion. Well, it was that was one of them. Yes, for sure. That was one of them. That was the nastiest one.

Starting point is 01:29:31 But for you to know your board, your investors are not going to support you writing that letter and you still write it and you post it. I don't know, man. You got to applaud that. You got to applaud that. You gotta applaud that and for me, I don't know what he's going through, a recreating of himself and rebuilding of himself. I'm actually curious to know what he ends up turning into and by the way, now that common sense community, because to me it's common sense, it's not Republicans. They want to say Republican.

Starting point is 01:30:03 To me, common sense. Puberty blockers are bad under 18's not Republicans. They want to say Republican. To me, common sense. Puberty blockers are bad under 18. Common sense. You want to do it above 18, look I don't agree with it, but go ahead and do what you want to do with it, right? Common sense. LGBTQ being taught too early to school, to kids, it's bad. Common sense.

Starting point is 01:30:19 Not allowing Tesla to do what they want to do and targeting them and your state and driving business owners out is bad, right? Gas taxing people over and over and over and over again, driving, it's bad, right? These are bad, so common sense. Musk, common sense. Rogan, common sense. Zuck, as you age, more common sense.

Starting point is 01:30:40 Trump, common sense. Tulsi, common sense. Bobby, common sense. Vivek, common sense. Tulsi, common sense. Bobby, common sense. Vivek, common sense. So this is the part where right now, the positioning of what's happening, you now have Google and YouTube over here. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:31:02 I just think this is a, I'm glad Trump's team reached out. Stephen Miller, if he sees this, you guys are strategic moves you're making, very impressive. Zuck, freaking phenomenal for going out there and sitting down, and Musk, please stay paranoid because you need to hold everybody. Someone in the room needs to be the guy that's gonna be like, yeah, I don't know yet.

Starting point is 01:31:25 I don't know yet. That's okay. Someone needs to play that flag carrier role. Go ahead and give your thoughts and I'm gonna move on to the next story. I think we just gotta give Zuck a little credit for growing and evolving. I mean, you highlighted the fact that he started Facebook

Starting point is 01:31:37 out of his dorm when he's 19 years old. He just turned 40. By the way, he's a father of three daughters. He's a girl dead. So for 20 years, this guy's been in the limelight billionaire Of course, he's gonna grow. Of course. He's gonna evolve. He's been in front of Everybody his whole life his whole adult life. So You talked about you know, how?

Starting point is 01:31:56 Dylan's got the Riz but he goes developing the Riz, you know the Riz that I would say that you think Zuck had Riz When he was 19, 20 years old. He started Facebook because he couldn't meet any girls. That was the whole premise of it. So you see these days Zuck specifically, you know, now he's doing UFC. He's fighting. He's saying things like when Trump got shot in the face and he got up quote unquote, that was one of the most bad ass things I've ever seen with actually with Emily

Starting point is 01:32:25 Chang, Adrian's old flame. I'll tell you about that. But we're, we're at model volleyball in, in South beach this past year, right? You know, model volleyball, you showed up who walks by out of nowhere. Mark Zuckerberg. We're like, did Zuck just walk by? Yeah, that was Zuck. What, what does this guy doing in South Beach? He's growing, he's developing. You got to give him credit for that. By the way, I was right. Two years ago, Robin, if you had this Facebook stock, when they changed their name to plummet, you remember this PBT?

Starting point is 01:32:53 I know you were just a huge fan of the NFT world at that point. And they changed their name to Metta and everyone's NFTs. It's the average Facebook stock plummeted down to 92, 93, two years ago. This guy's wealth basically was cut in half. Look at this. And now it's 6X, 574. Let's go, we got a few minutes to go into it. We got a few more stories to get into.

Starting point is 01:33:20 Okay, all right, so while we're talking about this, we can go to fired CBS reporter reveals bosses blocked Elon Musk's interview Okay, this is a New York Post story now think about it Your job is to land big interviews to bring a lot of eyeballs to the company So it's like Vinnie Texman says hey Pat. I got an interview with Musk for unusual suspects. What do you think we should do? Oh, oh hell no We're not Vinnie says I got an interview with Hillary Clinton Vinnie says I got an interview with Dylan Mulvaney with Musk for unusual suspects, what do you think we should do? Oh, hell no. Vinny says I got an interview with Hillary Clinton.

Starting point is 01:33:47 Vinny says I got an interview with Dylan Mulvaney. I'm going to be interviewed. Go do it, right? But what does CBS do? A very different thing. Rob, is she explaining in this clip on what happened when she wanted to interview? Go ahead. Go ahead and play this clip.

Starting point is 01:34:01 I had conversations with some of the reporters connected to the Twitter files, and I was in my head thinking that there might be an opportunity to tell that story on CBS News. We had a number of topics under discussion. They didn't go as far as we had hoped. But at the end of the day, this opportunity to interview Elon Musk was developing. So I went to the CBS executives and I said, this is the opportunity that we have. He's saying, I want to do it live and on my platform. He's one of the most influential human beings on the planet.

Starting point is 01:34:38 And the reaction from the executives was, well, we can't do it live. And I was like, what do you mean we can't do it live? I was like, well, we don't know what he's going to say. I was like, well, I'm thinking, isn't that the point of journalism? You don't know what the person's going to say? Well, you know, it has to be taped. We have to have the ability to edit it. It has to be on our platform.

Starting point is 01:34:57 We have to control the platform. We talked at one point about whether we could do it sort of like a simulcast between the streaming network and maybe X. But everything just got shut down. It's one of the biggest interviews you could ever have. I felt so ashamed, frankly, that I never went back to Elon Musk and said, listen, they want to do it, but they've set all these conditions on it. I couldn't do that. This is someone whose

Starting point is 01:35:26 DNA is free speech and How do you tell someone who is committed to free speech that your network Can only do it taped and only if they edit it and it can only be on their platform That's it. So you can pause it right there this okay. I'll come to you first Vinny before I give my thoughts Tell me what do you think with this? This is of the few Report like their actual Journalists and actual they're not political activists how great and you know who she is too

Starting point is 01:35:55 She's the one that thing that Rob tell me if I'm wrong. She warned us of the black swan event Yes, that should be coming sooner or later and then pass she gets into she gets into the fact that, you know, she has it, there's a clip that I sent you, Rob. She holds up, Pat, she holds up the Hunter Biden content on a little drive in her hand, and she goes, I had this, I wanted to run with it. And they said no, because we have to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And that's the problem, and that's when I go back

Starting point is 01:36:22 to the accountability, all those people, including Hunter Biden. Can we play this really quick, Matt? Rob, you could go. This is hard talk. It's not that long, is it? We eventually broadcast a story about the Hunter Biden laptop after the midterm elections in 2022. We commissioned a forensic review.

Starting point is 01:36:41 And look, she has it. Scumbag boys. Got a copy of the laptop data. All of it. I have it here still. I went to a lot of effort to get the cleanest copy of the laptop data, the same data that was provided to the FBI,

Starting point is 01:36:55 because I didn't want to have any professional journalistic risk for CBS News. I wanted this thing to be totally locked down. When we did the story, we did it after the midterms. I argued against that because it was ready before the midterms and my training is that you should always do the story when it's ready to go. You should not be dictated by the political cycle. Once we got the laptop story on the morning news, I felt that there was so much there that we could still do.

Starting point is 01:37:29 For example, in the text messages, there's unfortunately the use of the N-word, the liberal use of the N-word. And I thought this was worthy of a story, but I was told that it was not something that interested me. Hunter's saying the N-word a bunch of times in emails. And then she was saying that there was emails from Joe Biden on that laptop. So that goes to my point of, I mean, I shout out to, for Catherine, for being an actual journalist and reporter, but it's the accountability. And I think if we let these things go,'re gonna keep doing them over and over and over and over again That's my that's I want I want somebody to get in trouble for something. It's not it's you know what it is

Starting point is 01:38:12 It's more than trouble Vinny. There's something more Painful than being in trouble. You know what it is being bankrupt going out of yeah for sure. That's what it is Yeah, and and the look when whenever you We go out to dinner, okay? If my kids, waiter comes, you're with us all the time. They have to say, thank you, can I please this? Every time. Every time, right? And Brooklyn says no pow pow.

Starting point is 01:38:38 No pow pow, Brooklyn doesn't wanna get hit. No time out. No time out first, yeah. But the point is, if you're not coming from a respectful, grateful place and you forget the reason why we have this is because of America and all this stuff, we're gonna have a problem, right? We have to start off with gratitude.

Starting point is 01:38:56 The moment you forget that the salary you're getting paid is because of people that are tuning in and they're walking away because you lost your journalistic integrity because it's all about pandering to an audience that you don't want to share the other side of the story and give you a perspective and you are so-called CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, all of these guys that are going this route this is why Yesterday TMZ did a story and John Shahidi who is an absolute stud of a guy is on TMZ talking about Podcasts what the podcasting game did for 2024 elections. I think TMZ wrote a story yesterday

Starting point is 01:39:42 If you go to a story about podcasters with Trump and If you just tell it in Google it should come up But they're talking about what's going on with podcasters and how you type in TMZ podcast Trump It should come up as a right there. That's one right there. Nelk boys Yeah, so I pitched Trump on podcasters White House press needs shakeup Nelk boys manager if you go a little bit lower That's the guy right there at the top if you want to give him He's a stud of a guy Persian guy, but him and his brother Sam are phenomenal. You obviously know how I feel about Sam. These guys are funny as hell. Go a little lower. So he's explaining he joins TMZ, he's the

Starting point is 01:40:13 guy that manages Nelk Boys and many others. I think Theo Vonn is part of the program as well. Go a little bit lower. He's breaking down. He breaks down the fact that podcasters are changing the game. The interviewers on podcasting is the direction it's going to now right that's today Vinny go to 27 28 so the credibility mainstream during 2024 election went where here what happened to podcasters up when this way do you realize if this goes like this now what do do you think is going to be in 27, like this? Nope.

Starting point is 01:40:51 No, it could go like this. Yeah, and they're gone. And if it goes like this, go ahead, Kamala, Newsome, Josh, whoever, go run your campaign and go through the safe podcast. Go ahead, do that and see what happens. Go ahead. Don't go talk to all these others. See how you do. Go ahead and see how you do. And the other guys, Vivek, do that and see what happens. Go ahead. Don't go talk to all these others. See how you do.

Starting point is 01:41:05 Go ahead and see how you do. And the other guys, Vivek, everybody, I don't care. Your name is Pacman, I'll come to you. Your name is Cenk, I'll come to you. Your name is Joe, I'll come to you. He's not done Joand yet, although I think Vivek should go on Joe and that would be a very good podcast. I'd like to see that happen with Vivek being on Joe Rogan.

Starting point is 01:41:20 I think it would be phenomenal. I think Joe liked the podcast with Mark and Risa and I think Joe and Vivek would be explosive. That'd be a great podcast to do and it'd be interesting if it's anyways but the point is 2027-2028 it's game changer. So what are these guys gonna do? They have to change or else you're done. You don't have a choice if you don't change. You're gone if you don't change. The market's not gonna forgive you for you not making an adjustment. That's worse than, hey, you know,

Starting point is 01:41:51 they gotta be held accountable. Market's gonna hold them accountable, Tom. So imagine a person that has a back injury, and you know you gotta go in for the surgery, but you don't want everything the surgery entails. You're gonna lose mobility in your back, they're gonna fuse a couple vertebrae, but they don't want everything the surgery entails. You're going to lose mobility in your back. They're going to fuse a couple of vertebrae, but they tell you that's what you need to do and you're going to be different going forward with mobility and your ability to

Starting point is 01:42:13 work out. But that's what you have to do. But instead you go home and you ice it, you put on icy hot patches, you limit your workouts and you start taking OxyContin. Pretty soon you're addicted to oxycontin, right? It's a legal painkiller and you go to one doctor says hey Vinny. I've given you two prescriptions in a row You really got to be careful with this I only gave it to you because you were to give you pain relief so that then you could get to your surgery

Starting point is 01:42:38 But if you tell me you're not doing your surgery I can't give you more prescriptions because I'm gonna make you into an addict. Tom, Vinny doesn't take Oxy. No, hang on, watch, watch. I'm giving this example. I don't want the audience to sound like a counter. No, Vixy doesn't, he does not. Vinny doesn't take Oxy, but go ahead. Yeah, those little blue triangles are not Oxy, definitely. Blue magic, but go ahead.

Starting point is 01:42:57 So, what am I saying? Now watch this. Right now, cable as a technology is drifting down. Yes. Older people using cable. So they already have problems with audience Right now, cable as a technology is drifting down. Older people using cable. So they already have problems with audience just on access technology. They have problems.

Starting point is 01:43:13 And they have problems on message. People don't want what they're serving, right? So what does CNN do? Oxycontin. It's called, everybody gets a 50% pay cut. Everybody gets a 50% pay cut everybody gets a 50% pay cut the viewership is down we got problems with cable everybody gets a pay cut that's oxycontin see MSNBC hey Rachel we need to um to yeah I understand I'll take a five million dollar pay cut but she did last week from 30 to 25 I don't know if it was exactly last week but

Starting point is 01:43:42 the news leaked and then it was confirmed by the way I don't know if it's a pay cut because she went back down to just doing it once a week Exactly overpaying curve. Yeah, if you want to find a million dollars, what what does that? Let me get to it It's all Oxycontin They're trying to save money, but they're not going in for the back surgery. That's gonna change them They're not going in to change. They're not saying, this takes surgery, we have to do this, we need a more moderated approach at CNN. They're just giving everybody a pay cut

Starting point is 01:44:13 and hoping that the cable shift doesn't happen but they're not changing a damn thing. Are you indirectly telling Vinny and I that we should go for the back surgery? Is that what you're saying? Because you know we both have that problem. Because if you're saying that, Tom, I mean, it's like public information.

Starting point is 01:44:26 I don't want to. I'm saying that the liberal think tank and the bubble that is liberal thought in this country and the mainstream media can not look in the mirror and say, you know what? We effed up. And guess what guys, we need more mainstream coverage. We need more voices. I'm not putting those bastards on this network I'm that's what they're thinking I'm

Starting point is 01:44:47 telling dying I'm telling you Vinny I'm telling you Vinny the market never lies you can't fool the market for too long look when we started like this this game that we're in right now with what we're doing right when yesterday guy comes in we're talking about potentially doing something with soccer locally in Fort Lauderdale. A lot of people have interest, kids, soccer, hey Pat, can we start a school, an academy? We want some of our kids to come

Starting point is 01:45:16 and spend time with you guys. I want to, we're gonna maybe do something, first test for a parent or their parents to come with us with their child and spend a day and a half with us. Like imagine, parent has to be there and then you can bring your child with you. You have to be present together

Starting point is 01:45:31 because we're gonna talk to the parents and we're gonna talk to the kids. You know, who knows what we do down there. This is one of the biggest things that people are asking about parents and kids to get involved and come to our new campus. You're in a meeting yesterday, right, when we're doing this late at night last night.

Starting point is 01:45:44 And I said to these guys, they're smart guys. Very smart guys. What if we do this and what if we do that and what if we build this? I said, listen, here's how this thing works. I said, what you're telling me is an academy here, that's step number eight.

Starting point is 01:45:54 What is step number one? Test to see if there's a market for it. PBD podcast, okay, we started. At first, what's it called? Unusual suspects at first It was called unusual suspects because we own the domain unusual suspects.com We did 10 episodes called the unusual sauce and then we switched to PBD show them David podcast something something and then we went PBD show. Yeah, I don't know what it was like Three change your name like five times. I don't know what it was

Starting point is 01:46:22 You may be expect 2020. expected. So anyways, eventually the unusual suspects. Yeah. So, and by the way, we've had such interesting moments, but going back to it, I said, I don't know if this is going to do anything. I have no idea what it's going to do. Right. And then you see the, you see the, the, the picture, the image, Rob, if you have that, that says the episode. Episode 30 was Bet Paper broadcast. Look at Adam, you look like you voted for Hillary and Joe Biden right there. Look at that photo, Pat. You look like you voted for everybody right there.

Starting point is 01:46:55 So you look at this. Were you heavier, Adam? You look at this and all of a sudden we're like, let's see what this does. At that point, Vaitemen has only got a few million subscribers, three million subscribers, but I want to talk politics, but it's risky. So we tested it. What does the market say four years later? We love it.

Starting point is 01:47:12 We want it. Market says we love it. Okay. We love it. We, by the way, that's a Batman on the back and the old Norway guy, Kai, who's a great book recommender. So anyways, Tom, this is your first appearance back 45. We do this and then we test what does the market say? We want more and it grows. Okay

Starting point is 01:47:32 But let me tell you You can also put up a video and put up an episode that you're ecstatic about and you're like this thing's gonna blow up Yeah, and a market says not this sucked We don't like it, right because Because sometimes when you have victory after victory after victory, you're like, oh my God, we're this. And then you feel like you walk on water and the market's gonna be like, wah wah. What was this all about?

Starting point is 01:47:54 Okay, relax, go back to creating good content. You got a little bit lazy, right? That's what happened to CBS, ABC, NBC, and all these other guys. This is a permanent thing. Market never lies. This is what happened to CBS, ABC, NBC, and all these other guys. This is a permanent thing. Market never lies, and it's a publicly humiliating loss that they're going through. If they don't adjust, this continues.

Starting point is 01:48:13 Let me go to a story because Adam had a lot of insight on this next story from personal experience that he wants to share with everybody else here. So ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt warns the perfect AI girlfriends could worsen loneliness for young men. Oh no. Rob, if you got this clip, I think it's very important. Play this clip and then Adam, I'm gonna come to you. Go ahead, Rob.

Starting point is 01:48:35 There's lots of evidence that there's now a problem with young men. In many cases, the path to success for young men has been, shall we say, been made more difficult because they're not as educated as the women are now. Remember, there are more women in college than men, and many of the traditional paths are no longer as available. They turn to the online world for enjoyment and sustenance, but also because of the social media algorithms,

Starting point is 01:49:03 they find like-minded people who ultimately radicalize them either in a horrific way like terrorism or in the kind of way that you're describing where they're just maladjusted. This is a good example of an unexpected problem of existing technology. So now imagine that the AI girlfriend or boyfriend, let's use AI girlfriend as an example, is perfect, perfect visually, perfect emotionally. And the AI girlfriend in this case, captures your mind as a man to the point where she, or whatever it is, takes over the way you're thinking.

Starting point is 01:49:41 You're obsessed with her. That kind of obsession is possible, especially with people who are not fully formed. Parents are going to have to be more involved for all the obvious reasons, but at the end of the day, parents can only control what their sons and daughters are doing within reason. We've ended up, again, using teenagers as an example. We have all sorts of rules about age of maturity, 16, 18, what have you, 21 in some cases, and yet you put a 12 or 13 year old in front of one of these things,

Starting point is 01:50:11 and they have access to every evil as well as every good in the world, and they're not ready to take it. So I think the general question of are you mature enough to handle it, sort of the general version of your AI girlfriend example is unresolved Adam I mean this is gonna be the conversation of our times of what the hell is going on with young men You know, there's a famous phrase out there in the man of spirits Chase excellence or pursue excellence and not hold. I'm sorry to interrupt you Let me just set you I'm gonna come back to because this the part that he didn't say that I want to read Which makes the story deeper

Starting point is 01:50:45 and then I wanna get your commentary on it. So Schmidt referenced grown risks, citing a Florida lawsuit where a 14-year-old boy, Sewell Setzer III, committed suicide after an AI chatbot girlfriend sent obsessive messages and told him to come home. Schmidt stressed, teenagers are not ready to handle complex AI power technology,

Starting point is 01:51:04 adding that younger users are exposed to every evil as well as every good in the world. Go ahead. Yeah, I didn't even hear about that part. So that makes it this story even more tougher to digest. As I was saying, there's a famous phrase out there that's young men should chase excellence or pursue excellence, not women, because as a man, it takes time to become that dude. We've had these conversations before. Now, what I would tell a young man who's obsessed with a real girl, like, Oh, my God, this guy, I'll

Starting point is 01:51:35 be like, dude, relax. It's not your time. Now young men are becoming obsessed with women that don't even exist. These are AI completely made believe chatb bots. And this young man took his own life. Yeah, because of it. Because of because of the comments. Yes, obsessive comment by an AI girlfriend. They don't even have us. Yeah. So look, I've worked in the nightlife world before, you know, if a if a group of 21 year old girls show up, 24 year old girls show up, let them in. Let's go. All good. No problem. If a, if a group of 21 year old girls show up, 24 year old girls show up, let them in.

Starting point is 01:52:06 Let's go all good. No problem. If they, if a group of 21 year old boys show up, they better be buying a table or know somebody in the inside or they're getting turned away. Nobody wants them here. They're kryptonite to a club. So that feeling, I remember the feeling that I went with my boys, my college buddies, what's up man?

Starting point is 01:52:24 We're going to go out in South beach. We have no money. We're in college. We show up, the door guy, French dude, douchebag. He's like, what do you want here? I was like, yeah, we're going to go into like, who you with? I was like, yeah, just my friends. You're buying a table, $2,000. I'm like, nah, we got no money. He's like, get the fuck out of here. That's how young men are made to feel. But now you show up, you're 40 years old, they're like, oh, right this way. Come on in. Oh, you're with your friends, you're with your crew because you're a man of status, you've established.

Starting point is 01:52:50 So the point is this, young men are going to take time to become the person that they need to become. When you're 16, 18, and you're obsessed with trying to get women, you're thinking, oh my God, it's the end of the world. Mary doesn't like me. Your time is going to come, but it's going to take five, 10, 15 years. Even Mark Zuckerberg right now is 40 years old. Finally developing Riz. That's what it comes down to. But you know, this guy, this

Starting point is 01:53:14 conversation, Eric Schmidt knows a little bit about what's going on in the online world. He was the CEO of Google. The conversation he had with Scott, Scott Gallagher was exactly a former social media has ruined dating for young men, dating apps, ruined dating for young men because they have no credibility. They have no social score. They have no status. Then they also hear things, juxtapose things like the future is female, who runs the world, girls, all these types of things. Oh, if you're masculine, you have toxic masculinity. All these things are being thrown in young men's faces. And then on top of that, 40 years ago, it was 60% of men went to college, 40% women.

Starting point is 01:53:49 These days it's the exact opposite. So everything is being the patriarchy men, toxic masculinity, it's not okay to be a man. What I would suggest is this, young men need to play the long game and they need to understand that it's gonna take time. Last thing, if you're a parent out there, get your nerdy ass kid off the video games. They need to get out there and interact with the real world or this. Unfortunately, this story is going

Starting point is 01:54:16 to become a little bit more pervasive. Tom, I'm going to come to you as a parent. Well, as a parent, I got boys and girls. You got girls as a parent. How do you process this? Well? First of all I was waiting for Eric Schmidt to say as happens on Facebook He didn't add that and because he's former CEO of Google from down the street He could have thrown some shade right there with those three little words as on Facebook and so They get to that as a parent you have to pull your kids back from the digital fake into the physical real. And the physical real is talking eye to eye,

Starting point is 01:54:55 looking people in the eye, talking to people in your study group. I talked to Bailey about this, and I've talked to Brooke about this. It's like, hey, all the social media online is fake affirmation. It's fake. It's not real. Your real engagement is with your teammates on your swim team, your teammates on your golf team, teammates working on yearbook. And you're going to find people that have things going on. You'll be able to look them in the eye and you'll be able to engage with them. And I have been putting digital guardrails around my daughters

Starting point is 01:55:25 for a long time. And I think now they see it playing out, because they see friends at school where it is on the other edge. And as a parent, if you're not involved and you're not focused, you're in trouble. And you know where it starts? Parents, it starts with your patience, because you're losing trouble and you know where it starts? Parents, it starts with your patience

Starting point is 01:55:46 because you're losing patience and your stress because your kid's crying and doing the things at five years old. So you give them a mini game to play. You're giving them a pacifier. And maybe they do need a little distraction there but you better manage it because that big pacifier when they're 12, 13 years old is social media

Starting point is 01:56:03 and it's toxic and deadly. By the way, if I can advise anybody that's watching this here, one of the things that I think a lot of time when people think about Tom, they think about, oh, how can I raise money? How can I business, business, business, business, all this, a biz doc, biz doc, biz doc. Why don't you and your wife, Manek Tom,

Starting point is 01:56:22 and ask questions about parenting. This is one of the conversations we have all the time. We, Tom and I, and our family, we made certain new decisions a few months ago. I would say six months ago, collectively together. We read a book, we're open to ideas that are good. Yeah, we are on the same wavelength when it comes down to raising kids,

Starting point is 01:56:41 where if Tom takes my Tico or Dylan or whatever, they go together for three, four days, I'm not even thinking about what they're doing. They're in good hands, right? Because I know our values and principles are the same. I had this girl here the other day, Laila Mikkelwait. Rob, did I say her name correctly? Correct. Phenomenal.

Starting point is 01:56:56 I had such a good time talking to her. She's the one that got the 2.33 million signatures to petition to shutdownpornhub.com because of the amount of porn that they had underage. You know out of 56 million videos that they had on Pornhub.com, a story that came up, that's her by the way, Laila Micklewaite, phenomenal lady. And if you can pull up that New York Times story, the other New York Times story that

Starting point is 01:57:19 we talked about, by the way, very, very weird New York Times story. A child of Pornhub, this is the child, the children of Pornhub telling stories of how these kids end up in Pornhub. One mother, Rob, do you have the intro for the interview tomorrow? Maybe we can't even show the intro. You have the intro. They send it to you. It's on our text.

Starting point is 01:57:42 If you can pull it up. The intro, Vinny, is disturbing. One of the top things that we discussed, her and I together, is the fear parents have to have serious conversations with their kids. And I brought up a couple things with her. One of the things is, you know, about a year ago, I don't know if you guys remember, we talked about this, maybe we talked about one of my kids was a little bit drifting, and I had a conversation with him one morning and I pulled him aside, maybe you'll remember this, I don't want to

Starting point is 01:58:11 name kids so don't drop any names and all this other stuff, I'm just saying one of my kids. And I said, hey, I'm getting the feeling you're drifting a little bit. And we sat down and we had a one hour meeting together, and by the way, when you want to have serious conversations with your kids, if you're intentional, they're gonna give you 100% attention. This guy's looking at me, fully.

Starting point is 01:58:30 And- What does drifting mean? Humberto, if you can send a video to Rob, it's not gonna be here, Rob, it's in a text. We have it, it's an intro that was sent to approve. Humberto can send it to you. So I say, you're drifting. He says, what's drifting?

Starting point is 01:58:41 So I said, let me show you this clip from the book, what is the book? what is the book? What is the book? What is the book, drifting book by that lady? Oh my God, what is this book called? First time I read this book, I couldn't put it down. Book on drifting, it's a book that's linked to Napoleon Hill who wrote it many, many years ago

Starting point is 01:59:07 and she explains this book. Somebody, can you please just text me if you're watching this? I know somebody's watching the same, Pat, how'd you forget this book? You know what book it is. I tell them I want you, Outwitting the Devil. That's the one, Outwitting the Devil.

Starting point is 01:59:19 And I had them read this book and I had them read an excerpt from this book, okay? And in the book it explains, you want to destroy your life? You have to be aware when you're drifting. And what is drifting? Drifting is just like when you're life, you're just kind of like drifting. Like a car going off the road,

Starting point is 01:59:33 you slowly start to go and then you crash. So I said, I'm getting the feeling life is just regular for you. And you're not investing in yourself in certain things that you need to be. You know what's one of the things that really changes? I think you know how you go up to him, you're like, hey, something's happened with you?

Starting point is 01:59:49 We put him in kickboxing, and he goes five days a week. He'd go every day if the trainers were available for him. Let me tell you what's happened to this kid's confidence. When you have boys, folks, you have to find a way to develop their confidence in a different way than girls. My opinion. It's a different way of developing confidence with boys than girls. Both of them are going to be needed. And if you choose to have more than one kid, you have to still find a way to build up their identities. They all deserve the identity to be built.

Starting point is 02:00:22 Even though when you're like sometimes you don't have time or whatever that's going on, you have to find a way to do it. Find a way to get the identity to be built even though when you're like sometimes you don't have time or whatever that's going on You have to find a way to do it find a way to get your kids To be involved in something that they're improving in that gives them confidence You got to find a way to do that You know when you're all of a sudden being complimented for the work that you're doing It's a confidence booster the other day. We publicly promoted Rob We think Rob's done such a phenomenal job here that we publicly promoted him. And by the way, Rob is a guy that is behind a screen guy sometimes, but unusual he's not.

Starting point is 02:00:54 Rob's a talent. Rob's a comedian. Rob's phenomenal at what he does as well. And we love Rob. And we publicly recognize Rob. And for the last three and a half years, when I'm giving'm giving you feedback I'm like hey, something's happened with you. You're developing yourself. You're recreating yourself and it's highlighting because it's very different than when it was

Starting point is 02:01:10 three and a half years ago. You're like I don't know what's going on here. You're a different human being today than you were three and a half years ago. And the more I learn about this guy, the more I love this guy. I like what he's doing to improve himself as a father, as a as a man You should see how he's with his kids mom seems like he's on a call and boom. Let me step. I gotta do this Hey with his wife. It's okay. We're gonna do this. This is good Like these are things that it matters stuff that matters in life kids matter family matters friends matter Like you pour into it a little bit. Well, we got to pay attention, but sometimes we as parents are drifting

Starting point is 02:01:43 I got my promotion. I got my job, I got my this. Dude, pump the brakes, go have a conversation with your kid. Walk with them for an hour. How you doing? What's happening? Let me tell you what I'm thinking about you. Here's how I envision you being one day, kid. I think one day you can be dot dot dot.

Starting point is 02:01:57 Really daddy? Really mommy? Yes. But I also think I'm noticing some things you're not paying attention to. You eat too much sweets. You sleep in too much. You're not exercising, you're not moving your body, you're addicted to video games. How about we get addicted to your dreams?

Starting point is 02:02:10 How about you have these types of conversations with them? This is the clip with Leila Mikowait. This comes out tomorrow, by the way. It's a disturbance. Vinny, just watch this. You'll feel how disturbing it is in the first 20 seconds. And you said out of 58 million viewers, what? 56 million videos that was on Pornhub.

Starting point is 02:02:28 91% of the day took down. What? Because of that New York Times article and because of this lady that got the 2.3 million petitions. Oh wow. Watch this clip right here, go ahead. From Broward County, Florida, she was missing for an entire year

Starting point is 02:02:41 and she was finally found when her distraught mother was tipped off by a Pornhub user that he recognized Her daughter on the site. She was found in 58 videos on Pornhub So this is us emails from the CEO. Can we tell Mastercard that it just slipped into cracks? They want to know what we do. They're communicating amongst each other. They're saying what should we do? She couldn't be older than 13 or 14 and the video was obvious and they left it up under new ownership or old owners That was this is the old ownership, but old ownership is the same VPs and executives that are there today, right? But there's not a lot of being held accountable. There's not enforcement. I don't get that door who wouldn't enforce that law. It's kids

Starting point is 02:03:18 I want to address something that Solomon and his partner said on this show I mean you could play what he actually said. It's a complete lie. They exploit and they harvest the data of every single user that visits their site. They're currently being sued in a class action. And I think we will see full criminal prosecution of the owners of Pornhub, and I hope that we do. So this goes out to Mark.

Starting point is 02:03:42 You know how many kids I've been missing according to FBI? You know how many children are missing in America according to FBI? Overall first of all 2022 records Rob don't look at the screen Just look at me to how many children you think are missing Tom everybody right think number and then tell me Children missing that are still missing and the nice. It's not a big number that you think it's a big number 250,000 what do you think the number that's insane number 10,000 okay 10 Tom what do you think the number is I thought it was 30,000 Tom Rob can you pull up then you're about to be shocked this 359

Starting point is 02:04:14 missing missing 359,000 94 missing every one of them counts reported to the National Crime Information Center. Reported to. Twenty two thousand. By the way, you said twenty thousand? That's twenty two thousand more than it was in twenty twenty one. Bro, like, how? Missing. What are we not talking about?

Starting point is 02:04:35 Think about these parents that are missing. I mean, this is serious stuff here that we're talking about. So for me, parents, we need to be a little bit more involved. You got a nephew, you got a niece, you got to develop some of their identities to make sure you're having these tough conversations with them when it's necessary. But for me, when Eric Schmidt is telling this story, as much as we have fun here, guys, and we joke around, we do certain, you know, at the core of what we're doing, there's values and principles that matter, they got to stand up for.

Starting point is 02:05:03 Some of these conversations that we're having right now, because I think sometimes parents, we all need a nudge, all of us do, to just kind of be reminded of it. Maybe use today on Thanksgiving to have a conversation with them. Maybe this is a great opportunity today. Maybe today, tomorrow, if you're not working, pull them aside. Go for a walk with them. Do it individually with each one of them. And take them for somewhere and sit down and say, I want to talk to you son. I

Starting point is 02:05:25 want to talk to you baby. What's going on pops? It's going to be a little bit weird if it's not regularly happening. And before you do, make a few notes of what your outcome of this meeting with them is. It's going to be different for your daughter than your son, than your oldest, than your youngest. But the fact that you have their conversation with them one on one and give them that one on one attention, I can't tell you what it does to them. You remember when your parents did it to you. We remember when they did it that one time. I was six, seven years old, my mom would tell me, you're going to be an incredible engineer

Starting point is 02:05:52 one day. Engineer? Engineer? You're going to be like, who the hell? I'm seven years old, I'm remembering that. Have that conversation with them. My dad would say, son, the reason why you're gonna be a leader one day is because you're not afraid of the truth. One time my dad and I went to

Starting point is 02:06:08 this, what do you call it, spa in Iran that they had pool and all this other stuff that we would go there and they would make this drink, Persian drink that I freaking love. It's not dhug, it's like water with these, my dad knows what it is, this fruit stuff that they put in it, it's just incredible, with lemon and all this stuff, I love it. We'd go there and a guy says, how old is your son? And my dad says, ah, they're friends. He says, my son is 14 years old.

Starting point is 02:06:35 I said, I'm not 14 years old, my dad's lying to you, I'm eight years old. And he says, really? He says, yeah, because this place is 12 and up. He says, well, listen, since you're a father, I like the fact that you're honest, come in. And he let me in, he says, the reason why you're gonna be a leader one day is you're not afraid of the truth. You'll tell the truth, you'll get in trouble sometime, but you'll tell the truth.

Starting point is 02:06:52 That stays with you at eight years old. I'm 46, that's 38 years ago. We can do that for our kids, folks. You and I can do that for our kids. Use today as the opportunity this weekend to have that conversation, and do me a favor, share it with me, I wanna hear about it. You have no idea how much I love hearing stories as the opportunity this weekend to have that conversation. And do me a favor, share it with me. I wanna hear about it.

Starting point is 02:07:06 You have no idea how much I love hearing stories like this. I want you to have that conversation. You can get ahold of us on Manek or Tweet and do whatever you want. But on Manek, we'll be able to respond back to these stories. All right, let's do one or two stories before we wrap up and finish this up. Can we have some fun?

Starting point is 02:07:21 Is that okay if we have a little bit of fun? Are you guys okay if we have a little bit of fun? By the way, we got 42,000 crazy still here with us after 11 o'clock. You're still here with us. You guys are amazing. So why don't we have some fun? Every once in a while I think it's fun to get some people, maybe get a little bit of a reaction and see what happens. You know the girl earlier, her name is Abby Phillips, who doesn't want the phrase dear. How about we all collectively tweet at her and we say, dear Abby Phillips, Rob if you can put the handle below in the chat, I want you to tweet at her and I want thousands of

Starting point is 02:08:00 us to do it. Tweet at her dear Abby Phillips, Philip, and then say, happy Thanksgiving, God bless, hashtag at the bottom, PBD podcast. Okay? They're going to freak out. And this may even prompt these guys to react and say, I cannot believe you guys are disgusting or whatever. All we want to say is dear Abby Phillips, listen, happy Thanksgiving, Abby. You know, congrats on being a CNN Newsnight host

Starting point is 02:08:29 10 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. You may even take this as a promotional, like we'll help you, we're promoting you. So dear Abby what, Matt? Dear, her handle, Abby Phillips, which you founded, it's on Twitter, Abby Phillip, and just say happy Thanksgiving, God bless, maybe put a couple turkeys in there.

Starting point is 02:08:45 And then at the bottom, hashtag PBD Podcast. Let's see if in the next three minutes, five minutes, we can get this thing trending for her to get some love. And as she's enjoying herself today, maybe she's getting a bunch of love. Again, dear Abby, from us at PBD Podcast to you, we love watching your co-host or guest that's on with you, Scott Jennings, he's a superstar,

Starting point is 02:09:14 and we're proud of his fight and the great work that he's doing. And Scott is probably the number one reason why we've been tuned on to you, turned on to you because he does such a phenomenal job. And the common sense Americans love watching Scott Jennings. We think he's a superstar in CNN. I hope you realize if you don't pay Scott Jennings what he's really worth, the market

Starting point is 02:09:40 all over the place would be more than happy to pay Scott Jennings what he's really worth. And Abby, that's a shout out from us to you. That's this much time I'm going to give to you guys, but I wanted to make sure you got proper love. Dear Abby Phillips, happy Thanksgiving. God bless. Hashtag PBD podcast.

Starting point is 02:09:57 All right, let's go to a couple of other stories while we're doing this. Let's see what happens next. We'll report back. We're just having some fun here, folks. We just want to wish you a happy Thanksgiving. What's wrong happy Thanksgiving. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with wishing. It's a lot of good stuff that we're doing here contributing positively to society. All right, so let's go to this next story. Baker Mayfield, little bit weird, football player, having a decent season, right? He's at Tampa, if I'm not mistaken. I think

Starting point is 02:10:20 he's eight and three or maybe like seven and four. No, no, no, no, no. I think they're basically 500. Can you pull up what their record is? He started off having a decent season. He's having a great season. So what's the record? Are they 500? I'm going to say five and five.

Starting point is 02:10:33 Maybe you're right. Maybe they are 500. I thought they were doing better than 500. He kicked the Giants' butt, so. Five and six. Oh, shoot. Okay, so they're five and six. Let me read this to you.

Starting point is 02:10:42 My apologies, Baker. I was trying to give you a shout out because I actually would like to see you have a decent season here. So Baker Mayfield sues own father claiming he stole $12 million. This is the quarterback of Tampa Bay filing a lawsuit against James Mayfield alleging James Company, Canwood Capital, transferred $12 million from Mayfield and his wife without authorization from 2018 to 2021, claims a settlement reached in January requiring his father to repay nearly the full amount has been breached with not

Starting point is 02:11:10 even one dollar repaid and no response to inquiries. The lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court in Texas stated defendants had no intention of making plaintiff whole and have refused even to respond to plaintiff outreaches about those breaches The first payment of 250,000 dollars was due on September 30th But was never received Mayfield accuses his father's company of obscuring information Avoiding inquiries and providing fictional explanation Adam. What's going on with the story here? I mean what a horrible situation to have your father take advantage of you

Starting point is 02:11:45 for how much 12 million dollars and three years for those of you that don't know the story of Baker Mayfield. And by the way, I'm walking out in streets these days. They go, Hey, are you Baker Mayfield? I get it all the time. Like you look like I get it all the time. Baker Mayfield. So respect to you, Baker. Here's a guy grows up in Texas, goes to high school and I think he plays football Here's a guy grows up in Texas, goes to high school. And I think he plays football at a school called Lake Travis in awesome Texas. Doesn't get a scholarship walks on to Texas techs makes the team says, you know what I'm not there. He is right there. I don't know if you can see a better picture. Makes the team says, yeah, I don't

Starting point is 02:12:21 really like it right here. Transfers over to Oklahoma spends a few years there. Boom. Few years later wins the Heisman best player in the country. Boom. Oklahoma NFL draft comes around. He doesn't get drafted first round. He doesn't get drafted top 10 round number one overall pick my doppelganger over here. Baker Mayfield boom goes to the Cleveland Browns. Sorry, his team in the NFL rookie year breaks the NFL touchdown record throws the most amount of touch, touchdowns for a rookie in his first season takes the dog pound Cleveland Browns to the playoffs. So the first time in four felt like a hundred years, everyone's loving Baker. Everyone's

Starting point is 02:13:02 loving what he's doing in Cleveland. There he is. My little twin brother right there. Basically that's in 2018 lose ends their playoff drop. A couple of years going to in and out of the league basically says Cleveland in it for me ends up in Carolina. One of the worst franchises these days spends a half a season with the Rams. Boom. Next thing you know, Tom Brady retires. They ended up picking him up. He ends up doing a great job, ends up signing a $50 million a year contract. I believe, no, sorry. 50 million is what he's already earned. He signs a three, three year, $115 million contract. So here's this dude going around the league. This is a message here. You start off, not even a scholarship walk on a few years later, you're winning the Heisman

Starting point is 02:13:46 number one overall pick. You're basically taking Tom Brady's job and now you're a top 10 quarterback in the league. During all this, you're going to have your fans. You're going to have your haters behind the scenes. Your dad is just embezzling millions of dollars from you. You're going, like, if you're an NFL quarterback, by the way, there's no other position in all of sports that is more important than the NFL quarterback. You have your doubters, you have your naysayers,

Starting point is 02:14:16 you have your haters, unbelievable. But you beat Vinny's team last week, you beat the New York Giants, and what'd he do? He did one of these things to your boy Tommy DeVito. Hey, no, no, no, no. Why'd you do that? I've seen him do it and I just kind of decided to do it myself. I don't know. I was kind of thinking. The reason I like this guy's story other than the fact that he's ridiculously good looking. I mean, hello, come on. People hated on him. They doubted him. They said he wasn't going to do anything. He's made what? $100 million almost in his career right now. From walk on to Heisman winner to number one draft

Starting point is 02:14:49 pick. Are you kidding me? And beyond all that, his father is embezzling money. Unbelievable. Horrible story. But someone like this is going to bounce back because he's a winner. I got a really quick funny story. So I'm and I have the it's on Instagram about center Rob. So I'm working security because I mean, obviously I'm, and I, it's not on Instagram, but I'll send it to Rob. So I'm working security, because I mean, obviously I'm huge. I'm at the door, he comes in, this is in North Hollywood, I don't even say the place. He's in there, he's in there with his fiance. What year is this? This is right, he's about to get drafted.

Starting point is 02:15:16 He's going through that whole- So 2017 basically. 2017, he's going through that whole- They got you as the bouncer. I'm the door guy, checking IDs. But I have, trust me, I have hilarious stories. But anyway, so he comes in and he's chilling and then he's like I hear something It's his girls his girl fiance's birthday, but they don't have anything There's no he asked if there's any cake or any we didn't have anything like that So I leave my post at him and I sprint down the street. This is about reasonable hospitality

Starting point is 02:15:39 There's a Ralph's down the street. I go and I buy a whole thing of cupcakes I put birthday candles and I light it and we sing happy birthday to him Pat. This guy's face was like this He's like what the did you just are you guess his number? I contacted him and then we've been chill ever since And then me what time and then he's got his contract and his dad's taking 12 million dollars Which by the way date was weird this 12 million dollar number Darryl McCauley was Dane Cook's half-brother You talked about this from 2004 2008 stole 12 million from it's like a really round number that everybody just keeps stealing from their Family what they cooked not too long ago, but Baker Mayfield shout out to this guy's studs and back

Starting point is 02:16:15 Stud despite all this this by the way despite all of that and he's doing that you got to respect the fact that he's keeping It did you have some comments on this Tom Baker? Yes, there's something very, very funny that happened. And I don't remember, I wish I could remember what athlete, but I remember reading this long ago. So there's this dispute about the parents, right? Taking the money and everything. And apparently what the athlete, this was a female athlete, and what she did is she said, I'd like to drop the suit.

Starting point is 02:16:42 Because they identified all the money apparently, Pat. They found all the transfers, so they knew the money, and it was like because they identified all the money apparently Pat they found all the transfers so they knew the money and it was like a couple million dollars now think about what happens I'm dropping my suit I think I was mistaken I remembered now I gave it to my dad it was a gift and we've reported it to the IRS say that again what her parents apparently had taken a couple million dollars from her on like dancing and acting and she, and they ends up in the suit and there's all this stuff going on. And apparently her lawyer said, why don't you just recant it, drop the soup, say, Oh,

Starting point is 02:17:17 I remember now it was a gift and report it to the IRS. And that's what she did. So the, guess what? She didn't have to go after her parents anymore. The IRS is gonna go, hey, you got $2 million. We want 40% of that. Wow, that's actually brilliant. Yeah, well listen guys, I do wanna give you guys an update.

Starting point is 02:17:37 You guys are so crazy and powerful. Guess what? We're officially trending on Twitter. We're number seven hashtag on Twitter. Literally, it says number seven PBD podcast. Can you zoom in a little bit? PBD podcast trending on Twitter. We're number seven hashtag on Twitter Literally, it says number seven PBD podcast. If you can you zoom in a little bit PBD podcast That's the power of just day-to-day people on Thanksgiving. That's it. And you know what we made someone's day Yeah, thousands of people just wished Abby. Thanks. Yeah. Happy. Thanks. How respectful is that? Tom's is the best dear Abby Scott Jennings is the only reason I watch happy Thanksgiving anyway

Starting point is 02:18:08 We also got a um Tom's was the best dear Abby Scott Jennings is the only reason I watch happy Thanksgiving anyway Amazing Thanksgiving shout out by from the president by the way, do you see what he said what? He wanted to wish us happy Thanksgiving happy 4th of July there we go I love it. Well, listen gang. It's been great spending time with you guys today on Thanksgiving To let's see how many of you were with us the last two hours. I'm gonna give you the exact number I love it. Well, listen gang, it's been great spending time with you guys today on Thanksgiving To let's see how many of you were with us the last two hours Let me give you the exact number you have to be crazy because California we started at six o'clock and you you woke up And you stayed with us. Yeah, you were up winky winky and committed. So Rob What's the number on how many stayed with us the last? Let me just kind of figure this thing out That that that that that 220,000 people that were with us the last, let me just kind of figure this thing out. 220,000 people that were with us this morning.

Starting point is 02:18:47 May God continue to bless you. May 2025 be the beginning of the greatest years of your life. And remember, today, Black Friday, 50%. Listen, we already had, I think, 17 people that have placed orders over $500, which means I gotta make 17 calls already to some of you guys.

Starting point is 02:19:06 We're gonna be busy. I look forward to FaceTime to many of you guys. Remember, whatever money that's being spent for some of you that actually are comfortable saying Merry Christmas, go buy the Christmas stuff, because that's moving fast, but there's 125 products on there that are on the 50% off sale that if you purchase, some people are ordering 20 pins at a time. Buying the hats, gifting it to other people, the courses for some of you that are on the 50% off sale that if you purchase, some people are ordering 20 pins at a time. Buying the hats, gifting it to other people, the courses for some of you that are in business,

Starting point is 02:19:30 make the investment on the courses, the bundles, because every year people ask us, Pat, are we doing this again? Are we doing this again? Are we doing this again? This happens once a year, this is your opportunity. Make sure to make that investment. It'll make you a lot more money than buying a TV

Starting point is 02:19:43 or video game and all the other stuff that you'll be doing. But aside from that, while you're going through this, I think I just got a text right now that the first 200 orders, let me read this, give me one second folks on what we were doing. Any new hat with the first 100 people will receive a Future Looks Bright mug. Freaking amazing. And any new hat with the first hundred people will receive a future looks bright mug Freaking amazing. So anybody that orders a hat if you if in your order, there's a hat in there You're gonna get a future looks bright mug. There's a bunch of different mugs on there for you to take advantage of Go take advantage of this weekend. Just started it really starts Friday But those of you guys that are with us here on the podcast you found out first

Starting point is 02:20:20 The email is gonna go out to everybody for this weekend. You're ahead of everybody else Enjoy Thanksgiving. God bless. Take care everybody will do it again this weekend. You're ahead of everybody else. Enjoy Thanksgiving. God bless. Take care everybody. We'll do it again next week. God bless. Bye bye.

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