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Episode Date: August 7, 2026

Friday on the News Hour, the U.S. jobs market unexpectedly stalls in July, raising new questions about the strength of the economy. Colombia's new president vows to fight his country's powerful drug t...raffickers with the help of the U.S. Plus, why so many in Maui are still stuck in limbo three years after the island's devastating wildfires. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Good evening. I'm Amna Nawaz. Jeff Bennett is away. On the news hour tonight, the U.S. jobs market unexpectedly stalls in July, raising new questions about the strength of the economy. Colombia's new president vows to fight his country's powerful drug traffickers with the help of the U.S. And we explore why so many in Maui are still stuck in limbo three years after the island's devastating wildfires. Everybody that I've talked to, without exception, wants to rebuild, just rebuild what they had before. Welcome to the News Hour. New labor data out today shows the U.S. economy lost jobs last month when economists had predicted modest growth. In all, there was net loss of 23,000 jobs in July. Newly revised numbers from May and June also showed 103,000 fewer jobs created than originally reported. The unemployment rate ticked down from 4.2% to 4.1, a function of fewer people seeking jobs. Joining us with a look at what the numbers mean is Heather Long.
Starting point is 00:01:18 She's the chief economist with Navy Federal Credit Union. Great to see you. Thanks for having me. So this is not the jobs report. Many people were expecting. Where do you see the biggest weaknesses here? Yeah, this was a real wake-up call. Definitely a bleak report.
Starting point is 00:01:32 As you pointed out, it wasn't just weak in July with those losses. and they were pretty broad-based, hospitality sector, lost jobs, education, lost jobs, retail, and even the financial sector, what the stock market doing so well, lost jobs. But you also had revisions down, as you mentioned, in May and June. And I think that's what really shifted the view on Wall Street and here in Washington about how well this economy is actually doing. The belief was that things were maybe getting a little better, that hiring was picking up.
Starting point is 00:02:04 And that's really been dashed after this report. Let's dig a little deeper into some of those. Job losses and hospitality in particular, how much of that would you attribute to the World Cup, which mean it was largely played in the U.S. and ended on July? Yeah, it was definitely surprising to see job losses in hospitality in June and July. And I think it's both supply and demand. I know economics speak here, but some of it is the affordability crisis.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Families just aren't going out to eat as often as they were before. And then, of course, the Tartan Army has left Boston. You don't have people kind of drinking the bars dry anymore. I think also labor supply is impacting hospitality. What I mean by that is, look, we all know what's going on with immigration policy. There are a lot of immigrants who traditionally work in the hospitality sector. Some places are reporting, difficulty finding enough workers now. That's where you're seeing the crackdown show up in the data.
Starting point is 00:02:58 There were some areas of growth, we should point out. health care, construction, modest growth in manufacturing. What do those numbers tell us? Healthcare is an ongoing story. It's been the one bright spot in the job market for the past two years. We got an aging population. That's pretty explanatory. Construction is interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:16 That's been a real pickup this year. It's the AI boom. You know, these big data centers are going up across the country, and it's been a revival for construction and manufacturing. After a real slump last year, manufacturing is gained. about 30,000 jobs so far this year. It's not a ton, but you've got to build the machines to build the data centers and to build all those factory parts inside. I know another data point, a trend you've been tracking closely is women in the workforce. We saw in these last month's
Starting point is 00:03:45 numbers a continuing decline of the number of women in the workforce. The National Women's Law Center was actually out with a recent analysis that found over 845,000 women have left the labor force this year. That's compared to 400. thousand men. What is going on here? I think it's really worrying. What you're seeing really in the past two years is that women with young children are leaving the labor force. They're just throwing up their hands and saying, I can't do it anymore. And particularly women with children five and under. And that's both college educated women who used to have those work from home jobs, and now they're being told they have to return the office, but also non-college educated women
Starting point is 00:04:29 who work in retail and education and other sectors that used to be giving them more opportunity, more flexibility. And now it's you have to be there from nine to five or whatever those hours are. And you can see what the child care is so expensive and less flexibility, women can't do it. The other alarming point in this jobs report
Starting point is 00:04:47 that kind of goes alongside that, wage growth. Weakest in five years, 3.2%. That is totally wiped out by inflation. That financial squeeze is real. for a lot of households. We hear that from a lot of folks we talked to out in the country. And I want to ask you, too, about the job seekers, because we did see the number of people who consider themselves in the workforce.
Starting point is 00:05:08 That also dropped. What should we understand about that? Yeah, that was the lowest in five years for labor force participation. I will say that it's mainly folks who are retiring, some willingly, some forced that can't find a job, you know, 55 plus. And the other interesting one, young people still struggling a lot. And, of course, the immigration factor. Foreign-born workers are definitely down due to the White House immigration policies.
Starting point is 00:05:37 The one encouraging number in this report, what would the economists call, we have some of not the greatest names for things, but prime age labor force participation. So workers between the ages of 25 and 54, that did rebound a little bit. So, again, that's where you see people in their prime working years who have a job. They are clinging to that job right now. Chief Economist for the Navy Federal Credit Union, Heather Long, thank you so much for being here and help us make sense of these numbers. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:08 We start the day's other headlines in Washington, D.C. A federal appeals court ruled that President Trump can't continue building his $400 million White House ballroom without congressional approval. In a two-to-one ruling, the judges sided with preservationists and finding that the president does not have the authority to build the 90,000 square foot structure on the site where the East Wing once stood. But construction may not stop right away. The judges gave the administration two weeks to appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:06:50 President Trump called the decision unjust and said it should be overturned, quote, in its entirety. The meantime, President Trump is reviving his push to remove Lisa Cook from the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. The Newshour has obtained a letter the White House sent to Cook this week, saying it is consistent. considering removing her and giving her 21 days to respond to unproven allegations of mortgage fraud. Trump and his allies tried to force Cook out last year on similar grounds. She filed a lawsuit challenging her dismissal, and in June, the Supreme Court blocked Trump from firing Cook while her suit is pending. But they did not weigh in on the underlying allegations against her. Cook's lawyer called the claims baseless.
Starting point is 00:07:32 In Thailand, a student shot and killed at least seven people today, including five. at his high school outside of Bangkok. Officials say the 14-year-old killed his grandparents at their home first before opening fire at the school using a gun that belonged to his grandfather. They say he then took his own life. Students who've been blurred by Thailand's public broadcaster for privacy were hurried out of the building as others consoled one another. Hospital officials say nearly two dozen people were hurt, some critically.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Investigators are still searching for a motive, but on a visit to the school, the country's Prime Minister said mental health was a factor. This is, it is a violence, but it is not caused by criminals. It is caused by an individual who had carried lots of pressures and tensions. Classes have been suspended at the school through the end of next week. The shooting has revived a debate about gun laws in Thailand, which has one of the high highest rates of gun ownership in all of Asia. A red flag warning remains in effect for parts of Washington State as firefighters work to contain
Starting point is 00:08:46 a number of blazes. Officials say more than 850 buildings have burned, and entire neighborhoods have been destroyed since the fires broke out last weekend. Tens of thousands of people were evacuated, and police say it could be weeks before everyone is allowed back home due to the toxic air and potential for new fires. In the meantime, the man charged with starting one of the fires appeared in court via video yesterday. Police say that Aaron Farinacci planned the crime for weeks beforehand and chose a hot, windy day to cause maximum damage. In Minnesota, planes were back in the air today after an air traffic control outage in Minneapolis grounded hundreds of flights across the Midwest.
Starting point is 00:09:28 It happened yesterday afternoon and lasted about two hours, bringing chaos to passengers here at Minneapolis-St. Paul International. airport. The FAA says it was due to an equipment outage at a facility that handles air traffic stretching across nine states in the Midwest. Officials say service has been restored and an investigation is underway. In Europe, a blistering heat wave is breaking records in multiple countries helping fuel both wildfires and a worsening drought. In central Europe, both Austria and Slovakia reached new all-time highs. In Hungary, the heat touched 42 degrees Celsius yesterday are about 108 degrees Fahrenheit. And in Italy, nearly all of its major cities were under the highest red alert for heat today. In Rome, residents and tourists alike struggled to stay cool.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Also my fan, but it's not charged right now, so I literally am dying out here. In the meantime, firefighters in Serbia are using helicopters to drop water on wildfires that ignited this week. Elsewhere in Serbia, water levels for the Danube River have gotten so low, they've revealed sunken World War II ships, some abandoned by Nazi Germany towards the end of the war. Facebook owner Mehta says it will appeal a ruling by a New Mexico court, ordering the company pay $567 million in a child safety case. Most of that money will go towards treatment services for young people, but the rest meant for awareness and prevention efforts, among others. It is the largest such penalty yet for
Starting point is 00:11:09 the tech giant and it comes on top of a separate $375 million penalty that jurors ordered during an initial phase of the same case from misleading users about the safety of its platforms. In a statement, META says it remains confident in its record of protecting teens online. On Wall Street today, stocks rose after that weak jobs data eased concerns about the Fed raising interest rates. The Dow Jones Industrial average added around 150 points on the day. The NASDAQ climbed more than 1%. The S&P 500 also posted a decent game to close out the week.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Still to come, on the NewsHour, President Trump's pick for Attorney General Todd Blanche appears to clear his last hurdle for confirmation. A severe drought and aging infrastructure plunge Puerto Rico into a water crisis. And David Brooks and Jonathan K Parte weigh in on the week's news. This is the PBS News Hour from the David M. Rubenstein Studio at WETA. in Washington, headquarters of BBS News. At the U.S. Capitol, a wild day of decision and indecision. The Senate today passed the toughest sanctions bill on Russia yet and is now on track to
Starting point is 00:12:26 confirm attorney-general nominee, Todd Blanche. But our congressional correspondent Lisa Desjardin joins us now to report that a slew of other high-priority items are still tangled, largely due to the Republican divide. Good to see you, Lisa. Hi. Let's start with Todd Blanche. It does seem like his confirmation is on track. That's correct.
Starting point is 00:12:43 and it looks like it will be by the narrowest of margins. It came down to a single senator, Republican Bill Cassidy, of Louisiana. He is a Republican who just two months ago lost his primary because President Trump went after him. This morning, Cassidy made his announcement about Todd Blanche on the Senate floor. Mr. Blanche is not perfect, and he will tell you this. But the choice is not between perfection and Mr. Blanche. It is between Mr. Blanche and another acting attorney general
Starting point is 00:13:10 who may not run the department effectively under President Trump, and who, indeed, may not be as good as Mr. Blanche. As you heard there, his speech was stilted at times at the end. He seemed to choke back emotion. Now, Cassidy is a senator who voted to convict Trump in the second impeachment trial over January 6th. However, he was a decisive vote otherwise in some issues like the nomination of HHS secretary, RFK Jr.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Now, with Blanche, Senate Republicans really had to get the vote. it's exactly right. So here's where things stand. I want to show people what's happened here. First of all, you see Cassidya, yes, but two senators there in the middle, the women, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, were nose. Senator Mitch McConnell is absent. He could have been a decisive vote here, but that is benefiting the president. The next question is, when is this going to happen? Possibly tonight. But we are waiting right now as other issues are snagged, and we will probably get to that in a second. We mentioned that Russia sanctions bill there. They did get that done, and it is a big deal.
Starting point is 00:14:13 This is why. This is a very big deal. As a matter of fact, this bill is the most powerful statement that the U.S. Senate has made yet when it comes to Ukraine. It is a very big victory for Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelensky. It's by far the toughest sanctions bill that we have seen being considered against Russia. Here's what it does. It allows up to 100 percent tariffs on the five countries that buy the most energy,
Starting point is 00:14:34 oil and gas from Russia, new sanctions on Putin personally and those around him, and also blocks some ways that Russia has been able to avoid sanctions in the past. It also would extend sanctions on Iran. Now this bill is named for late Senator Lindsey Graham. He is the one who helped negotiate it, and there is no doubt that his death is part of the momentum, actually, that has gotten this through the Senate. There is some concern because this gives a lot of power to President Trump from some. However, there's more concern about Russia, and now it goes to the House.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I know on top of everything else you were tracking, government funding will run out again soon. Where do things stand on a government funding bill? I really have to remind people about this. I'll tell you where things stand. Senators are asking me where things stand. So that's never a great situation, though I know a lot. I don't know everything. Let me break down the basics here of where we are.
Starting point is 00:15:23 A reminder, government funding runs out September 30th. The Senate, when it leaves this weekend, doesn't come back until September 14th. The extension they want until December is snagged over a ban on hemp products. Omna, I didn't see this coming. But there is a ban that was voted on last year. It had a one-year phase-in. It's supposed to go in effect in November. Now the CR is snagged over when that will go into effect.
Starting point is 00:15:46 So tell us overall, where do things stand on the to-do list? Kind of walk us through it. Okay, here we go. Our viewers are very astute about this. Let's look at this big to-do list that our senators and elected officials are going over. First of all, the things that we have seen getting action or about to get action right now in the U.S. Senate, those top four items. We're going to check them off in green in just a second, including the Blanche nomination, which we do expect. But however, there are some, you will see below, that we think they're going to leave undone as they leave the House as they leave Congress for their August recess.
Starting point is 00:16:18 That one in the middle, you see that college athlete reform package. We are still waiting tonight to see if that gets an advancement or not. Down to the last minute here, Senator Thune, the Republican leader was trying to do things in an orderly fashion here, get ahead. But yet again, individual senators are taking the opportunity to try and get their issues in or block issues they don't. They got a lot to do. You've got a lot to cover. Lisa Desha, Dan. Always good to see you. Thank you. Thank you. Today there is a new partnership in the Middle East and South Asia. Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Pakistan signed an agreement similar to NATO's Article 5, pledging that a strike against
Starting point is 00:17:08 one of them would be considered a strike against all of them. But what there is not today is an announcement of a deal between the U.S. and Iran, despite reports from the administration all week that it was close. Nick Schifrin is here now to explain why. So, Nick, let's start with that deal between the U.S. and Iran. How close was it this week? It was very close, according to four regional officials and one senior U.S. official who told me that in the middle of the week, Iran and Oman had a deal over the strait of Hormuz,
Starting point is 00:17:37 that ships entering the strait would use a lane closer to Iran. Ships leaving the strait would use a lane closer to Oman. There would be no tolls. The strait would be demined, and it would restart the 60-day clock, bringing the U.S. and Iran back to ceasefire. and larger negotiations. This was a temporary deal supported by the members of the Gulf Cooperation Council, all of the countries that you see along the Gulf there, even though it meant that Iran could hypothetically block their imports. And senior Gulf officials told me they had no choice because they feared if the U.S. escalated against Iran. Their fear was that Iran would escalate
Starting point is 00:18:11 against them, targeting cultural, even political targets. And in a call between Saudi crown prince, Bahamid bin Salman, and President Trump, A senior regional official tells me that the Crown Prince painted a, quote, nightmare scenario about the risk of escalation to the region and to global energy. That helped move President to want this deal by midweek. And again, they thought U.S. officials did think that they had one, and it would restart those negotiations with Iran over the nuclear program, over the frozen assets, and a permanent solution to the strait.
Starting point is 00:18:44 So officials thought they had a deal over the street. What ended up happening? So there's a debate where it comes down to this. But the senior U.S. official and three of the Arab officials tell me that they believe Iran changed its demands, that Iranian negotiators agreed to this temporary deal. But then members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps came up, came in over the top, demanding clear promises that the U.S. lift the blockade, also lift sanctions, let Iran sell oil again in dollars, and also add tolls to the agreement. Take a listen to Ben-Taliblu of the Foundation for the Defense of the Defense of the Union. democracies.
Starting point is 00:19:20 We've seen this movie from the Islamic Republic before, where you think a deal is close or imminent or at hand, and last minute, the parameters change and the government asked for more. That's fundamentally in the nature of the Islamic Republic. But ultimately, there was one real reason here why there is no deal at hand yet. And that's because the regime, more so than ever before, believes that escalation rather than engagement will guarantee its survival. And its diplomatic strategy in the short and medium term is to try to find a way to punish the
Starting point is 00:19:51 Trump administration rather than come to a notice of end. But Iran says the blame is on the United States for what it called, quote, theater diplomacy on loop. Chief negotiator Muhammad Ghalibov wrote this week, acknowledge the facts, fulfill your commitments. We don't need more theater. The facts being a reference to Iran's demand that the U.S. lift new sanctions that the U.S. recently imposed on Iran. Take a listen to Ali Vyas of the international crisis group. He says the U.S. is incorrect if it assesses that, somehow Iranian divisions or mixed messages are preventing this deal? The belief that there are divisions between the more moderate, pragmatic forces of Iranian politics
Starting point is 00:20:34 and the IRGC is what creating serious divisions within Iran is just misguided. The Revolutionary Guards is in charge and is calling the shots. If it was up to Iran and Oman, a deal would have been achieved a few weeks ago. But because behind Oman, there's the United States and other Arab Gulf states, and they were pulling the strings. Taleb blue and Valles do not agree necessarily on what's going on, but they do agree on one thing, Amna, that Iran is playing for time and does believe that time is on its side. So tensions with Iran continue, tensions and the straight continue, but you've been reporting on this new deal between Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey. Tell us about that. Yeah, so they signed the Mecca Joint Defense Agreement.
Starting point is 00:21:19 We saw today Saudi crown prince, Muhammad bin Salman, who is Turkish president, Rejib Erdogan, Pakistani president Shabhaarraf there, three Sunni Muslim leaders who, especially when it comes to MBS, and Erdogan have competed, more than collaborated, in the past. They pledged to treat an attack on one as an attack on all of them. That is a specific reference to NATO, of course. The bottom line, Amma, this is an example of countries in the region
Starting point is 00:21:45 seeking new security arrangements outside of the United States. None of these countries are weakening their U.S. ties, but there are some officials in the region with doubts about U.S. leadership that are accelerated by the Iran war, knowing that Iran's regime will survive, knowing that Iran's regime will emerge from this, more emboldened, and as we were talking about the top, more leverage over the strait. All right. Nick Schiffin, thank you very much. Thank you. Puerto Rico is facing yet another crisis. Starting today, major cities are rationing wall. for residents due to severe drought conditions. Ardima Zane tells us more. Amna, for rotating 48-hour periods, the water will be shut off across the island,
Starting point is 00:22:41 further disrupting daily life for residents and raising concerns about potential public health issues, prompting the governor to issue plea, asking to use water wisely. Sometimes we're showering and we leave the water running, and we wash our hair and leave the water running. Let's shut it off when we're washing and then turn it back on to rinse off. That can be the difference in reducing water consumption. Same thing when we wash dishes or do laundry. This crisis is also exposing the island's aging water infrastructure and lack of immediate government action, leaving many frustrated.
Starting point is 00:23:18 For more on how families are coping and what officials are saying, I'm joined by Laura Perez Sanchez, an independent investigative reporter who collaborates with the New York Times and lives in San Juan, Puerto Rico. much for joining us. I want to just jump right in. Can you explain where you are and what the conditions are like right now? Well, I'm in someone and the conditions I would say I have water right now, but I'm supposed to be part of the rationing system and starting on Sunday. I should not have it, but I don't know if that's going to happen. Right now, what is happening is that people are a little too frustrated because even with the rationing system, things are not going
Starting point is 00:24:00 as planned. People who are supposed to not have water this morning have it. And there's communities that haven't had water for a long time now. And people are just bracing for what seems to be coming and seems to be a very hard time that's going to come to us. So what I hear you saying is there seems to be a little bit of confusion about who is supposed to get water when. And my question then to you is do residents feel that right now authorities are communities, clearly about the situation and about the water? Well, I would say that that's the main issue right now. There's communities in San Juan and in other places
Starting point is 00:24:40 in the Big Island of Puerto Rico that haven't had water for a long time, even more than a year. And there has been a lack of communication, a lack of clear information to understand why that was happening. And right now, the way the government explained the program, the rationing program, was confusing. It is confusing how it is starting to be implemented.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And I feel like for an emergency that has many, many explanations and reasons to not be able to understand what's going to come, what's going to happen, is becoming very, very frustrating for people on the ground. And I want to ask, you know, the island has been dealing with water shortage issues and power outages for quite some time. But talking about this new problem. How much of it is because of the drought conditions or the water infrastructure? Well, experts say that it's because of the lack of maintenance and upkeeping in the water infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:25:44 I've talked to experts who have told me that our water system loses close to 60% of the water that it's in it, so it doesn't get to customers. And for example, the reservoir that is right now where they are in, where they are in, you know, where they are implementing the rationing, they extract 90 million gallons a day, in a regular day on average, and they end up taking to the system and getting into the system 65 million gallons.
Starting point is 00:26:14 So there's a big loss there of water that they don't know where it's happening. And I think that that's also the reason why people are so frustrated because it feels that we should not be in this position, even though there's a trout, And that is true that it is happening and it's been affecting us since maybe May. I really miss hearing the sound of the rain. Is there any end in sight?
Starting point is 00:26:41 Will continuous flowing water be available to the island anytime soon, in your opinion? Talking to experts is frustrating because they explain how this is the result of a lack of management and maintenance of our infrastructure, but there's also hope in talking to them because they always refer to our underground water resources and reservoirs, the aquifer is how we call them. And I know that there's water there and that if we manage our resource better,
Starting point is 00:27:15 we should not run out of water, or at least not as soon as it seems that we could. But going back to your question, there has been, meteorologies have been saying and other experts in climate saying this severe Niño hasn't started yet and that maybe we're going to, these dry conditions are going to last all the way to the end of the year. I'm being hopeful that there is a, like I said before, like a little, a little miracle storm that's going to save us from this. Laura Perez-Sanchez, thank you so much for
Starting point is 00:27:53 joining us. Thank you. The new president of Colombia was inaugurated just a short time ago. Abelardo de la Espritia won a tight race in June that halted Colombia's leftist movement with a sharp pivot to the right. Liz Landers takes a look at the man and his tight relationship with the Trump White House. In Colombia today, a wave of yellow jerseys and a tidal wave of change as the South American nation ushered in a new era of its political future. Abellardo de la Esprit's unprecedented actions began even before his presidency. The self-described political outsider and right-wing leader opted to move his inauguration out of the country's capital of Bogota to the city of Santiago de Cali.
Starting point is 00:28:51 It's a move he said would get the ceremony away from Colombia's Congress and seat of power and closer to the people. Even with the promise to be a president for all, it was clear some were not happy with the political change. Security forces established a heightened presence before the inauguration. Police seized a bus loaded with explosives in southern Colombia, which they believe was headed toward the inauguration site. And across the country, hundreds gathered to protest disavowing the incoming president. Outside the ceremony in Kali, some voters met the new president's term with skepticism. Mr. Dela Esprit's inauguration won't change the city itself.
Starting point is 00:29:32 It will change the policies he implements. Because the inauguration, like what they're doing here, is more a matter of beauty, a fleeting decoration that will only last this week and the next. It could also lead to social conflicts because he knows this is a city where he is not welcome. Colombia, now going to the hard right, is basically shifting the entire region, especially South America, towards the right. Jimenez Sanchez is the human rights and anti-racism advocate at the Washington office on Latin America. She has concerns about the Mano Dura or Iron Fist approach that de la Spreyea promised to use in Colombia.
Starting point is 00:30:11 It has had serious consequences in terms of human rights. We saw an incredible rise of extrajudicial killings committed by the armed forces during that period. And we also saw that there was a disproportionate impact in the rural areas that are governed and where you have the highest presence of indigenous and Afro-Colombian peoples. Just weeks ago, De La Esprejea competed in a closely watched runoff election against Ivan Sepeda, a left-wing candidate and human rights advocate. De La Espritia won by a razor-thin margin. After the election, outgoing president and Sepeda supporter, Gustavo Petro, alleged widespread
Starting point is 00:30:51 voter fraud without evidence to back up his claims. So we are facing a fraud in an undoubtedly profound institutional problem, and that is the possession of an illegitimate presidency because the person who won is named Yvonne Sepeda. Cepeda conceded days after the vote, and today, De La Speriella laid out his vision for the country. I serve the homeland. De La Esprit is one of the latest right-wing Latin American leaders to be championed by President Trump. I think that there is going to be very little daylight between the United States and Colombia under these two leaders. Andres Martinez-Fernandez is a senior policy analyst at the Conservative Heritage Foundation.
Starting point is 00:31:35 There is just a massive wave of pro-US, more conservative leaders coming to office in Latin America. Columbia and Peru being the latest, but you've had half a dozen just in the past year or so coming to power. In June, Trump endorsed a then candidate de L'Ele Speriea, writing, quote, De La Espritia fights tirelessly for and loves his great country and people, just like I do for the United States of America. And Trump showed his support for the new president by sending a U.S. delegation that included acting attorney general Todd Blanche. We're also excited for what we expect to be a great rekindling of a great partnership between the United States and Colombia. I think there is very much a response to the opportunity that the region has now, with the Trump administration being so actively engaged with the Western Hemisphere to a level
Starting point is 00:32:35 that we really haven't seen before in American history. And that is opening up very important and unique opportunities for pursuing very important security gains. Do you think that de la Speria is going to feel a need to answer to Trump because of the aid and the economic situation that Colombia is in. I think that Delisvira is probably feeling the pressure to make really big moves from the get-go because there's so much expectation from him from the U.S. that he's going to be hard on narco traffickers. So yes, I think that the U.S. is going to have a tremendous influence
Starting point is 00:33:21 on the direction that Colombia takes as things evolved. That evolution will include new partnerships with fellow Latin American leaders for this new president who hopes to usher in a transformation for Colombia. For the PBS News Hour, I'm Liz Landers. Tomorrow marks three years since the deadly wildfires swept through the town of Lahaina on the island of Maui. The fires consumed thousands of structures, killed 102 people, and destroyed an important site of Hawaiian history. Today, hundreds of homes have been rebuilt and permits for hundreds more have been approved. But as Stephanie Sai reports, many of Lahaina's residents remain in limbo. I'm still living out of a suitcase, three years going on, so it's exhausting.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Charles Nahale is among the hundreds of Maui fire survivors still receiving temporary housing assistance from FEMA. He's had to move seven times since the fires. The one of the time you came knocking on my door, you got to leave today. What? I didn't get any notice I'm supposed to leave today. Yeah, you have to leave today. And that poor brother, he lost his home too. He was a security, I think, for the property.
Starting point is 00:34:45 We both like, oh. After the fires, disaster officials struggled to house the 12,000 Maui residents who were displaced overnight. Most were renting, or like Nahale, living in multi-generational homes. Soon, many may be uprored. many may be uprooted again. FEMA recently sent letters to survivors,
Starting point is 00:35:07 informing them it would be increasing their rent for the second time this year in an effort to compel them to find permanent housing. I don't know how people are going to afford it because they're asking for a lot. His work as a musician, which depends on tourism, hasn't bounced back. And he's still waiting on his share
Starting point is 00:35:25 of a $4 billion settlement for victims. After the fires, many feared that with Maui's soaring rents, high cost of rebuilding and gaps in insurance payouts, many of Lahaina's long-time residents simply might not be able to stay. Maui has one of the highest costs of living in the United States, and the average cost of a single-family home is over $1 million. Our main goal is to keep our people home and bring our people home to allow them to have housing, whether it's a long-term rental or a purchase. Richard Bisson is the mayor of Maui County. After the fires, the county and the state built temporary housing across the island.
Starting point is 00:36:05 It's now secured federal funding for permanent housing solutions for survivors, like Charles Nahale, who applied for a first-time home buyer subsidy. I'm not really sure what would happen if I can't afford the rent and the programs aren't, let's say they say I don't qualify. Then I'll guess I'll have to really look into what I'm going to have to do to survive.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Survival for many has meant leaving Maui since the fires, more than 3,400 residents have moved off the island. With FEMA assistance due to run out altogether in February, the county acknowledges it's up against the clock. We are moving as quickly as we can. I don't know that we can ever move quick enough in any setting. More than 50% of the population of Native Hawaiians now don't live in Hawaii. Stemming the flow of locals leaving Lahaina is urgent to many here. like Native Hawaiian conservationist Carolyn Aweloa. We will lose the character of our place, we'll lose our identity. We'll lose the people who love this place so much, know it intimately.
Starting point is 00:37:14 From the way the winds blow, the way that the currents move, the way that the fish come in season, the everything about Lahaina, we can't lose that. We can't. She co-founded a nonprofit, the Lahaina Community Land Trust, to try and protect to long-time residents affected by the fires from getting priced out in the rebuilding boom. The fire pretty much took all of the housing here, all of this part of town. It's raised tens of millions of dollars, including from the county, to buy lots in the burn zone, build houses and sell them at more affordable prices to locals.
Starting point is 00:37:53 When you buy a community land trust home, you're committing to owner occupancy, you are your family, and it ensures that this home will always be forever affordable. While housing construction has begun in earnest, the historic town's commercial core is still hollowed out. La Hina was an economic engine, generating $70 million a month in revenue. 20% of the island's businesses were located here, and 8,500 workers were employed. At this point, there's been no rebuilding, as you can see. Warren Freeland represents a group of more than 70 commercial property owners in Lahaina. There's been a mix of emotions over the past few years, between disappointment and hope and frustration and everybody that I've talked to without exception wants to rebuild, just rebuild what they had before.
Starting point is 00:38:44 His family has owned land where the Pioneer Inn sat in Lahaina for generations. Only the anchor in front of the building survived the fire. The original building that was built by my great grandfather in 1901, the original Piner Hotel, was right here in this site. State laws and county codes for new commercial bills have led to lengthy permitting holdups for these historic properties. But Freeland says the log jam is starting to loosen. There were some laws that were changed that were followed by directives from the mayor.
Starting point is 00:39:18 And without those directives, there would not be a path forward. But other new legislation may be holding the economy back, at least according to Maui's many short-term rental owners. no guarantee that a single house will be made affordable or attainable to residents, but what it does guarantee is that we are going to see harm to the economy and jobs and residents. Caitlin Miller represents the island short and midterm rental owners, most of whom live out of state.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Motion carries. In December, the county passed a controversial housing measure aimed at phasing out 6,000 short-term rentals and getting them back into Maui's housing stock. Are we going to continue to sit and not do anything, or are we going to make that bold move, make that change in order to house our people? A University of Hawaii study estimated that the policy would decrease visitor spending on Maui by $900 million and lead to the loss of 1900 jobs. In June, the measure was wound back to about 2,000 units.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Do you think that there's validity to the argument that somehow, these vacation homes are taking away housing from locals? I think what we have to come back to is that right now with the fire and the rebuilding, the focus should be on rebuilding and streamlining permitting and making it so that we continue to build more housing for locals versus taking away housing that was already here that's being used to benefit the community in other ways. As Lahaina's community grapples with how to build back, Maui's mayor, Richard Bisson summed up how many feel on this somber anniversary. People on a daily basis experience grief and gratitude, often at the same time.
Starting point is 00:41:08 They're thankful for this and then they also are grieving something that's happened. The county recently helped through a reunion, flying more than 100 displaced residents back to Maui. It was supposed to be a homecoming. But for many survivors, like Charles Nahale, it's uncertain whether they'll still have still have a place in its future. That's seeming like a far-fetched tree more and more. For the PBS News Hour, I'm Stephanie Sigh in Maui, Hawaii. Progressive wins in Michigan could signal a leftward turn in the Democratic Party's base.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And in Washington, some congressional Republicans face allegations of misconduct. On those topics and more, we turn now to the analysis of Brooks and Capehart. That's the Atlantics, David Brooks and Jonathan Capehart of Sampart. MS now. Great to see you both. Hey, I'm not. A few new anecdotes from this week that I'm going to try to put to you, and you can divine the party's direction for Democrats moving forward here. Start with this.
Starting point is 00:42:21 In Missouri this week, we saw the moderate candidate there. Wesley Bell defeat the progressive Cory Bush in a congressional primary rematch. But there are signs, as we mentioned, of an ascendant progressive wing. In Wisconsin, the frontrunner in next week's Democratic gubernatorial primary is a Democratic Socialist. That's Francesca Hong. And, of course, in Michigan, as we've been covering all this week, the progressive Abdul al-Said won the Democratic Senate primary, beating the moderate Haley Stevens.
Starting point is 00:42:45 You may have already seen just today the Republican candidate in that case, in that race, rather. Mike Rogers released this video trying to appeal directly to those Stevens voters. Take a listen. To the vast majority of people across Michigan who do not want to throw their support behind a campaign filled with anger, divisiveness, calls for violence, and the views that are out of touch with your values, well, you have a home with us. The fight is far greater than just left versus right. The fight is for the very soul of our nation.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Jonathan, are Democrats worried that more centrist Democrats in Michigan could decide to turn towards the Republican in this case? Well, sure. And I would say even without that terrible ad, that they should be. Because, you know, Haley, keep in mind, Dr. El-Sahed won the nomination, but barely. This was not a blowout. This was a squeaker. And so he needs those folks who voted for Haley Stevens to vote for him. Now, I've said from the beginning, former Congressman Mike Rogers is going to be a tough candidate, no matter who, an opponent, no matter who the nominee was, whether is Haley Stevens or Dr. El Siyadh. But that ad shows just how ugly and nasty this fight is going to be. In terms of that, David, what we've seen from Republicans on the messaging front so far is some anti-Muslim rhetoric already.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Republicans are now using Dr. El-Said's full name in their ads, which they haven't used before, which is Abdul Rahman, Mohammed al-Said, which I guess is supposed to scare people or something. But the president is also talking about a rising communism threat. None of these candidates are communists. Are those the strongest messages the Republicans have right now? No, I should say these people are too left-wing for you. You know, the Democrats are doing the same thing they did in 2020. They're angry at Trump. I understand that.
Starting point is 00:44:38 They're angry at their own leaders for not standing up to Trump in the way they think he should be stood up to. And so they're swinging left. In 2020 was moderately left. You remember the Democratic primary debate, presidential debate, almost all the candidates said, I believe, in open borders. That was political suicide. This is political suicide times 10.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Because if you look, for example, there are 16 Democrats who have won in Trump districts where Trump also won. What are those 16 Democrats have in common? They're all moderates. This is one of the firmest pieces of research across the board, massive amounts of evidence. Moderates do better than progressives.
Starting point is 00:45:16 They do better in race after race and a race by an average of maybe four points. And so if you want to win and defeat Republicans, nominate a moderate, it's not that's complicated. You take a look at what happened in Georgia a couple years ago. You had Raphael Warnack, a moderate,
Starting point is 00:45:30 and Stacey Abrams, a progressive. Warnock wins, Abrams loses. It's the case over and over and over and again, but Democrats seem to have not learned this message at least the kind of voters who voted for El-Said. He did very well and highly educated at more elite districts. He, like all socialists, did very poorly among workers. In the general election,
Starting point is 00:45:51 there are going to be a lot more people without college degrees than with college degrees, or at least than in this primary campaign. So this is bad news for Democratic electability. I would just say Dr. El-Sayette is not a socialist. He's a progressive, just to be clear. He's not a member of the DSA. He's backed by many Democratic Socialists.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Well, sure, he's backed by, but he's not like Mayor Mammadani, who's a member of the DSA. And I would push back on David. And it's not just anger at Trump. It's anger at Trump policies. It's not just we don't like the president because he is who he is. We don't like the president, particularly in Michigan, because of the tariffs, because of the war. There are lots of tangible Trump policies. that Dr. Al-Sayed ran on to get people's votes,
Starting point is 00:46:35 and that message that he argued during the campaign is one he's going to take to the general election, and it's just a matter of whether it will penetrate. That's the, and that's the big test here. Voters of almost every president's race, I think in every one of my lifetime, have always said, who's closer to the center, and they vote for that person.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Trump seemed closer to the center than Kamala Harris. Biden seemed closer to the center than Donald Trump. Donald Trump over the last few years has wrote run away from the center. He is handing this election of the Democrats. All they have to do is sit there and be couch potatoes. They do not have to support Medicare for all so that Republicans can go to them and say, you like your private health insurance? Mr. El-Sai is going to take that away from you. That is politically bad news, and that's only one of the issues on which the party is moving further and further away from the center, and therefore... I mean, I disagree
Starting point is 00:47:23 that the Democratic Party writ large is moving far away from the center, and that a few races won by Democratic socialists or people who identify as progressive, like Dr. El-Sayed, that, to me, I just don't, I do not see it, that you can put this, make this blanket argument that the Democratic Party is running far left. We'll see what happens when voters have a chance to speak on this. And that is the key thing. It's the voters who have made these decisions. I know you both are following these other headlines as well, which is a new round of
Starting point is 00:47:54 political misconduct stories that we are covering. Let me just run through a few of these that I know folks have seen in our coverage, the Republican Congressman Chuck Edwards of North Carolina ended his reelection bid after an ethics committee found that he harassed two of his aides. In Ohio, of course, you have the Republican Congressman Max Miller there refusing to drop out, even as he faces abuse allegations from his ex-wife and his ex-father-in-law, former father-in-law, Ohio Senator Bernie Marino, is telling him to step down. And in Florida, there's Congressman Corey Mills, who's been accused of assault and is under
Starting point is 00:48:26 investigation, is also staying in the race. Jonathan, we should point out Democrats did force out Eric Swalwell after a slew of allegations. They took a few weeks to unite around pushing out Graham Platner. But how are you looking at these allegations now? Well, I mean, I'm looking at it like this. Miller's decided to stay not to heed the president's advice to not run or whatever. The last member you mentioned is also sticking with it. And I think, yes, I think they have themselves to blame.
Starting point is 00:48:59 They just look at what then candidate Donald Trump did in 2016 when credible accusations of sexual misconduct were leveled against him by multiple women. Then the infamous grabbed them by the expletive recording that came out in October of 2016, and yet he still, folks still stayed with him. He brazened it out. He withstood all the criticism, all the calls for him to get out. and he became president. So if you're a Republican who's found himself in this situation, why wouldn't you think that I can, if the president can do it, then why can't I? And that's exactly what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:49:46 And Republicans, again, I think, have themselves to blame for this. David, the House Speaker, Mike Johnson says he's not going to intervene, right? Do you think you should? Absolutely. You know, he's running a body that should have some integrity. and some of these scandals are perennial scandals. They're always going to be financial scandals. Men are going to be idiots and they're going to be sex abuse scandals.
Starting point is 00:50:05 And they should all go for that. But what worries me is the rise of bulliesism. There's a number of candidates who have either because of Trump or because they hate Trump, frankly, if you throw Graham Platiner in there, they've decided that bullying is fine. And Max Miller seems to be the perfect example of this. A rich kid who had a temper and still apparently has a temper and who has half the U.S. Senate against it.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And that bullying, we know where that cultural vibe comes from. That does come from the White House. And it's become acceptable to be a bully in all sorts of noxious ways. And Mike Johnson should say, who's not a bully? He seems to be a good guy, good Christian guy. He should say, no, we actually don't stand for this. And, of course, then they'd say, well, what about Donald Trump? And he'd have to dance around that.
Starting point is 00:50:51 But at least he can control the culture in his own organization. Before I let you go, I want to get both of you quickly on the president's latest move, which are two new executive orders related to birthright citizenship. This follows the Supreme Court striking down his previous effort to undermine this. From the 14th Amendment of the Constitution, he's got these two new orders more narrow in what they're targeting here. But I just want to ask each of you, why do you think the president is so singularly obsessed with this one issue? Jonathan? Multiple times at this table during the campaign, I said the president,
Starting point is 00:51:26 was running an openly racist, xenophobic, white nationalist campaign for president. And key in that campaign was doing something about immigration. It wasn't just about sealing the border. It was about stopping immigration from countries that messed with the demographic makeup of this country. There are a lot of people who fear the browning of America. And by going after immigration so,
Starting point is 00:51:56 aggressively. He's trying to do something about that. So I am not surprised the president is looking at what the Supreme Court did and is trying to figure out ways to still try to accomplish his goal, whether it runs afoul of the Supreme Court decision or not. I don't think he really cares. I think he's really just trying to do everything he can to stop immigration and in the process change the nature of who we are as a country. I'm Trump supporters I spoke to say birthright citizenship was fine between 1925 and 1965 a low immigration era now we're in a high immigration era they think the fundamental coherence of the culture is being weakened and that's their argument
Starting point is 00:52:35 and they're really upset about it they think it's an existential threat which I think Trump shares that and that's why he's going back to this issue again and again again the only thing I'd point out if you ask Americans by large majorities they support immigration right now larger than majorities than any time in last 10 years if you ask Americans should should America be a more diverse country or a less diverse country? You get like three quarters of the people saying, we want to be a more diverse country.
Starting point is 00:52:58 So those people who think we should shut down birthright citizens in order to create coherence instead of diversity, they're in a pretty small minority in this country. America's figuring out who she is. Jonathan Cavehart, David Brooks. Thank you so much. Thank you. Be sure to tune in to Washington Week tonight right here on PBS.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Moderator Jeffrey Goldberg and his panel examined Todd Blanche's confirmation fight and the concerns over the U.S. military's depleted munitions. And this weekend, of course, you can watch horizons and compass points, both on our YouTube channel or wherever you get your podcast and on your local PBS station. Check your local listings. And that is the News Hour for tonight. I'm Omna Navaz. On behalf of the entire News Hour team, thank you for joining us. Have a great weekend.

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