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Monday on the News Hour, the latest batch of Epstein files raises concerns about the Justice Department's handling of sensitive information. The Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt reopens, b...ut only a small number of Gaza's sick and wounded are allowed to leave. Plus, the Studio Museum in Harlem reopens in a larger space showcasing the history of Black artists. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Good evening. I'm Jeff Bennett. And I'm Amna Vaz. On the news hour tonight, the latest batch of Epstein files raises concerns about the Justice Department's handling of sensitive information. The Rafa border crossing between Gaza and Egypt reopens after more than a year and a half, with only a small number of Gaza's sick and wounded allowed to leave. And a Russian-Israeli doctoral student held hostage in Iraq for more than 900 days shares her harrowing story. Freedom is truly something you don't appreciate until you lose it. Welcome to the News Hour. Political fallout is mounting today after the Justice Department released three million more files related to the investigations of the late convicted sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein. The DOJ has come under fire for how it's handled the release, with advocates raising questions about transparency and if the department has done enough to hold Epstein's associates accountable.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Our Justice correspondent Ali Rogan has been digging into the latest. documents and she joins me now. So, Ali, what more have we learned about the extent of Epstein's connections with some very prominent figures? On the taken together, these documents really indicate just, they paint a deeper picture of Epstein's connections to some of the most influential people in politics, business, entertainment, even royalty. There are new photos in this tranche of former Prince Andrew, now Andrew Mountbatten, Windsor, appearing on all fours kneeling on a female. Epstein also makes lurid claims in an email against Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, which a Gates spokesperson calls absurd and completely false. There are emails between
Starting point is 00:01:55 staffers of former President Bill Clinton in 2002. One of them emailed asking for then-Prince Andrews address to invite him to a dinner. Keep in mind, that was in 2002. Epstein was not formerly convicted with prostitution and registered as a sex offender in 2007. But allegations date back far earlier than that. Speaking of this timeline, what really stands out, apart from these more salacious details, is just how open the lines of communication remained between Epstein and these powerful people
Starting point is 00:02:30 for years after his initial arrest. For example, Tesla founder Elon Musk was exchanging emails with Epstein as late as 2014, including this one where he asked Epstein if he had any parties planned and said he wanted to let loose and that a peaceful island experience is the opposite of what I'm looking for. On Friday, I know you reported a lot about references to President Trump in some of these files. What more do we know about that and what have we heard from the president? Yes, and of course being mentioned in these files does not necessarily mean there was any wrongdoing. And the Department of Justice noted that they were required by law to include documents that may have been fake or falsely submitted.
Starting point is 00:03:08 But last night at the Grammy Awards, host Trevor Noah, did joke about Trump's spending time on Epstein Island with Bill Clinton, which elicited this response from Trump on his social media, quote, I can't speak for Bill, but I have never been to Epstein Island, and he said Noah should get ready for a lawsuit. Well, we know among those pushing for the release of these files have been the many survivors of Epstein's abuse. What are we hearing from them? Epstein's survivors say two things. Number one, a lot of stuff was over-redacted that should be released to the public. and other information was under-reducted that should have been kept secret.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Earlier today, I spoke with survivor Liz Stein, who is now an educator and activist fighting human trafficking worldwide. And shortly before we spoke, she said she had found her own name in the files. When we see, you know, things that we know perhaps should not be redacted, yet we see the release of survivors' information all over the place. It just feels incredibly careless. I think perpetrators are being protected, but victims of this crime, survivors of these crimes are not. Of course, Epstein died by suicide before he could be held accountable for his crimes,
Starting point is 00:04:18 but many victims have been calling for justice for his co-conspirators over the weekend. Attorney General Todd Blanche indicated that there was nothing in these documents that he thought could lead to anything, allow them to prosecute anybody, but Stein and many of her fellow survivors say this isn't over. We've seen them say that this is the end before. And I think that despite the injustices that we're seeing as survivors in the release of these files, it makes it all the more clear how important it is to get to the bottom of what happened here. This was a crime.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It was a crime of sex trafficking. It's not about politics. It's not about what a famous person's name or position is. This is about men who victim. girls and young women. Today, the Justice Department said they had identified some documents that they said were inadvertently produced and contained victim identifying information. And they said they had removed all documents requested by survivors and their counsel by
Starting point is 00:05:23 yesterday evening. But of course, again, Liz Stein said she found her name in the documents today. Justice correspondent, Ali, Rogen. Allie, thank you. Thank you. And for a closer look at the legal issues surrounding this latest release of Epstein files, we turn to Barbara McClain. Quaid. She's a former federal prosecutor and a professor at the University of Michigan Law School.
Starting point is 00:05:43 It's great to have you back on the program. Thanks, Jeff. Glad to be here with you. So the Justice Department says Friday's release brings it into compliance with the Epstein Files Transparency Act, but millions of files, as you well know, remain unreleased withheld for reasons like attorney-client privilege, privacy concerns, and the like. Democrats are now demanding access to the full record. From a legal standpoint, did the DOJ actually comply? with the law? Well, no. First of all, the deadline was December 19th, and here we are many weeks after that deadline. But also in light of all of these redactions, Jeff, I think there is some room to argue here that they're not in compliance in it. Within 15 days, which should have been 15 days from December 19th, the Justice Department is also required to produce a log explaining what was redacted and why. One of the things they've said they have readied,
Starting point is 00:06:37 redacted is internal memoranda and things that disclose their deliberative privileges. But that was specifically spelled out in the statute that required production. That could be something that the Justice Department and Congress might have to litigate if the Justice Department continues to refuse to produce those things. But I think that the enormous amount of redactions seems to go beyond the scope of what would be obvious, you know, things like names of survivors and other things. And so I think we're going to have to to see that log first before Congress can really ascertain exactly what was withheld. Why have no perpetrators beyond Jeffrey Epstein and Galane Maxwell been charged,
Starting point is 00:07:18 despite years of investigation and the volume of information that's now public? Well, of course, we still don't know what's behind those redaction bars. But I think what the public is seeing here is there is a difference between things that are wrong, morally reprehensible, shady, even awful. But to prove a crime, you'd have to show that someone engaged in actual sex trafficking. That means transporting someone across state lines who was underage for the purpose of engaging in sex acts or if they are not a minor doing so through threats or coercion. That requires a level of intent, knowledge, and the actions of doing these things.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And I don't know that we've seen any evidence that that was done, certainly just associated with Jeffrey Epstein or even making comments about. women is not enough to bring a case. And so, as I said, we don't know what's behind those redaction bars, but it would not surprise me if the Justice Department simply did not have sufficient evidence to prove some of these cases. And that might address a question I've seen a lot online since Friday's release, which is, why did the Justice Department under multiple presidential administrations to include the Biden administration under Merrick Garland, why did they not pursue broader prosecutions tied to Epstein's net?
Starting point is 00:08:37 network? Yeah, I think it's the same. So certainly Jeffrey Epstein was charged before he committed suicide and Galane Maxwell was charged and convicted. I think her trial occurred in 2021. But, you know, just because we had a term we used when I was working as a prosecutor, which is awful, but lawful. Sometimes people engage in really hideous conduct. You investigate, but you are just not able to prove the elements of an offense beyond a reasonable doubt. And so, you know, certainly there is some shady information. here going on, but it is actually one of the reasons that the Justice Department typically does not disclose records unless there is an indictment, and that is to protect people's reputations
Starting point is 00:09:18 when there really is just sort of this sort of, you know, slimy kind of awful conduct that doesn't amount to a crime. So we're seeing all these disclosures about these wealthy and powerful men and their affiliations with Jeffrey Epstein. Certainly, perhaps they showed poor judgment. They may even have attended parties and gone to his island and other kinds of things. But if they have not engaged in the crime of sex trafficking, it's really sort of inappropriate. Typically, the Justice Department protects people like that from disclosure to protect reputations when they cannot prove a criminal case. We've also seen some survivors say that their identifying information was released accidentally,
Starting point is 00:09:56 I would imagine, in these documents that they weren't properly redacted. What obligation does the DOJ have to survivors and releases like this? And what corrective steps, if any, could be taken? at this point to correct the wrong? Well, the statute itself said that they should not produce, they should withhold, and protect from production the names and other identifying information about survivors, which is par for the course. It is typical when the prosecution produces even discovery to a defendant to redact those names
Starting point is 00:10:31 and provide only that which is necessary to share with them for a fair trial. And so in some instances, it strikes me as sloppy. Now, I know they had millions of documents they had to review in a very short period of time, but that's the law. You need to make those your priorities. Maybe there's some things you can't do that month. Maybe there's some immigrants, Jeff, that can't be arrested that month because you need prosecutors to be reviewing the documents in compliance with the law. What can be done about it? I suppose there could be civil lawsuits to the extent that survivors want to file a lawsuit to suggest that they have been defamed in some. way by the production of their names in violation of this federal statute, I think they could have some civil remedies available. I also want to get you to weigh in on another important matter, and that's President Trump today suggesting that Republicans should, in his words, nationalize the voting process, and he argued it's necessary to prevent what he calls crooked Democrat-led states from allowing illegal voting. Here's what he told Dan Bongino. These people were brought to our country to vote, and they vote illegally.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And the, you know, amazing that the Republicans aren't tougher on it. The Republicans should say, we want to take over. We should take over the voting in at least many, 15 places. The Republicans ought to nationalize the voting. When the president says these people, he's talking about undocumented immigrants. The Brennan Center for Justice has said time and time again that this is a lie. It's a conspiracy theory. There is no widespread voting by non-citizens.
Starting point is 00:12:05 But from a constitutional standpoint, what would it even mean to nationalize elections? And does the federal government have the authority to do that when elections are the authority of state governments? No. The Constitution says that it is the states that set the time, place, and manner for elections. And that has consistently been held to mean that we have not one national election. We have 50 elections throughout our election. country on election day. And there's good reason for that. One is state sovereignty, but another is that kind of decentralized system is what protects us against some sort of widespread fraud
Starting point is 00:12:43 that attacks our nation or the collection of one database of all voting records. But in terms of administering the elections, that is all done at the state level by the Constitution. So the only way to nationalize elections would be through a constitutional amendment. Barbara McQuaid, always a pleasure to speak with you. Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. For the first time in more than a year and a half, Gaza has a border open to the outside world, but today's reopening of the Rafa crossing with Egypt was limited and comes after a deadly weekend in Gaza. Palestinians say Israeli strikes killed more than 30 people. Israel says it was targeting Hamas, reconstituting in Gaza. Here's Nick Schifrin with more.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Tonight, after sunset, a new day for a handful of Palestinians. Ambulance is full of the wounded, evacuating to Egypt. And dozens of Palestinians returning from Egypt to Gaza, eager to come home. Earlier today, their families waited to welcome displaced relatives. Imman Roshwan hasn't seen her mother and sister for nearly a year. We have been waiting for it for a long time, and every time it is not true, but this time it was true. I hope that the crossing will open, God willing, not just for 50 sick people to return.
Starting point is 00:14:09 return or leave, God willing, the crossing will open for everyone. Israel and Egypt say every Palestinian who returns or leaves must be vetted, and so far Israel is blocking any goods from crossing. The lucky few approved to leave, a fraction of the estimated 20,000 Gazans in need of medical care. Like Muhammad Abu Mustafa, whose wounded eyes today were covered by his mother, Raja, the family He says an Israeli strike blinded him as he waited for food to fight the family's hunger. For two years, we have been waiting for the crossing to open, and now the Ministry of Health
Starting point is 00:14:47 called us, telling us that we will travel to Egypt in order to complete his treatment. International organizations say only half of Gaza's hospitals and health care centers are even partially functional. But today's opening, a key step toward phase two of the ceasefire, that calls for Israeli troops to leave Gaza and be replaced by international. National forces. Hamas to be demilitarized, a step it has so far refused to take, and for Gaza's reconstruction, as envisioned here in a recent U.S. presentation. The Palestinians say the ceasefire is in name only, following a deadly weekend that
Starting point is 00:15:24 Palestinians say killed more than 30. Saturday was the single deadliest day in Gaza in more than three months. strikes hit an apartment building in Gaza City, a Hamas-run police station, and a camp housing the displaced. Israel says Hamas violated the ceasefire the day before, and that it targeted Hamas leaders and weapons, storage, and manufacturing sites. Boys mourn their father. An emergency crew tried to identify the badly disfigured.
Starting point is 00:15:58 This is supposed to be a ceasefire, and this happens again. Our capacities are very limited. We need proper machine. equipment to help us save injured civilians and bring out the martyr's bodies from under the rubble. The U.N. says that 80 percent of Gaza's buildings are largely rubble. The U.S. hopes that Gaza's future in the next three months includes a surge of humanitarian aid and a new rebuilding plan.
Starting point is 00:16:22 But until then, the displaced and death are still Gaza's present. For the PBS News Hour, I'm Mick Schifford. Turning to the day's other headlines, President Trump says that. there can be no changes to a funding package that the House aims to pass this week to fully reopen the federal government. He also says he's working hard with Speaker Mike Johnson to make that happen. A partial government shutdown began at the end of last week. That came after the Senate passed a measure on Friday that would extend funding for the Department of Homeland Security for just two weeks as Democrats pushed to rein in President Trump's immigration crackdown.
Starting point is 00:17:00 House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries told reporters today that he's also working with Johnson on a potential deal, but that DHS funding remains a sticking point. Still having seen a clear path articulated an iron-clad path articulated by the Trump administration related to the type of dramatic changes that are necessary in order to rain ice in. It's out of control, and the American people know it. This latest funding battle comes just months after a 43-day shutdown last. fall, which was the longest in history. Parts of the southeastern U.S. are digging out from another weekend winter storm.
Starting point is 00:17:42 This time, it was North Carolina that took the biggest hit. Some areas broke records with more than a foot of snow, and there were more than a thousand traffic collisions, two of them fatal. In the meantime, tens of thousands are still without power across the south, more than a week after the last crippling storm. While in Florida, farmers rushed to protect their citrus crops from some of the coldest in decades with the cold weather set to continue. Meantime in Pennsylvania this morning.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It's Paxibati! The world's most famous groundhog reportedly saw his shadow, which by tradition means six more weeks of winter. Though, to be fair, national weather experts say fill is accurate less than half the time. What we do know is that milder temperatures are coming tomorrow for parts of the southeast and mid-Atlantic, with temperatures rising above freezing for the first.
Starting point is 00:18:34 first time in days. In Dilley, Texas, officials at an immigration detention center are working to contain a further spread of measles after two infections were reported this weekend. The facility is where five-year-old Liam Ramos and his father were held until their release over the weekend. The pair flew from San Antonio back to Minneapolis yesterday after a judge ordered they be freed. Meanwhile, the public school district when Minnesota, where Ramos attended classes, was shut today due to what authorities are calling a credible threat. A police official described it as racially and politically motivated but did not mention Ramos by name. Police in Arizona say they're investigating the disappearance of the mother of today's show host Savannah Guthrie as a crime. 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie was last seen on Saturday night near her home in Tucson and was reported missing yesterday.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Officials say Guthrie has physical ailments but no cognitive issues. Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos is asking for the community's help and says that authorities have not ruled out foul play. We know she didn't just walk out of there. That is that we know. There are other things that the scene that indicate there was a she did not leave on her own. We know that. Nanos also said that Savannah Guthrie is now in Arizona with her family. Earlier, she issued a statement thanking supporters and saying that, quote, our focus remains on the safe return of our dear mom.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenskyy said today that he believes it is, quote, realistic to achieve a dignified and lasting peace with Russia. This comes ahead of a new round of U.S. broker talks set for later this week in Abu Dhabi. In the meantime, in Ukraine, a Russian drone hit a bus carrying, mine workers in the southeast of the country. Officials say at least 12 people were killed. Earlier in the day, another strike hit a maternity hospital injuring six people. A resident who lives nearby says she doesn't hold out much hope for a ceasefire. And today, Russia is simply wiping people out. Personally, no, I don't believe it, no truce.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Until they wipe us all out, nothing will happen. President Zelensky also said today that there had been no new targeted strikes on Ukraine's energy infrastructure, even as many Ukrainians suffer from frigid temperatures. Last week, President Trump said he convinced Russia's Vladimir Putin to pause strikes for a week because of the cold, but that halt was due to have expired yesterday. President Trump says he's cutting tariffs on India from 25 to 18 percent. In a social media post, Trump said the change comes after Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi agreed to stop buying Russian oil. India is the second largest buyer of Russia.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Russian crude after China. Trump says India will instead buy more oil from the U.S. and potentially from Venezuela. The meantime on Wall Street today, stocks rose to start the week. The Dow Jones Industrial Average added more than 500 points or about 1%. The NASDAQ gained around 130 points. The S&P 500 also ended the day in positive territory. And it was a night of firsts at the 2026 Grammy Awards. Bad Bunny won album of the year for Debbie Tirai.
Starting point is 00:21:56 the first sung entirely in Spanish to earn the top prize. I want to dedicate this award to all the people that had to leave their homeland, their country to follow their dreams. In his speech, the superstar continued his criticism of the Trump administration's immigration crackdown. It comes just a week before he headlines the Super Bowl halftime show. It was also a historic night for Kendrick Lamar, who 27th Grammy makes him the most awarded rapper ever.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And a gold trophy went to Golden from the blockbuster hit K-pop Demon Hunters, making it the first ever K-pop song to win a Grammy. Still to come. On the News Hour, the president announces a two-year closure of the Kennedy Center for renovations after cancellations by multiple artists. Tamara Keith and Amy Walter break down the latest political headlines. And the historic studio museum in Harlem reopens in a larger space to showcase the history of black art in America. This is the PBS News Hour from the David M. Rubinstein studio at WETA in Washington, headquarters of PBS News.
Starting point is 00:23:13 The John F. Kennedy Center of the Performing Arts recently renamed the Trump Kennedy Center will likely be closing its doors for two years starting this summer. President Trump made the announcement on social media yesterday. claiming it's necessary for renovations. Our White House correspondent, Liz Landers, spoke with a former Kennedy Board Center board member earlier as part of our ongoing coverage, art and action, exploring the intersection
Starting point is 00:23:43 of art and democracy. Jeff, two sources told me that the Kennedy Center staff found out about the changes on truth social. The president said that this would take effect July 4th, pending approval of the board, a group that he has appointed and made himself the chairman of.
Starting point is 00:23:59 For more on all this, let's bring in former Republican Congresswoman Barbara Comstock, who served on the Kennedy Center Board. Congresswoman, thank you so much for joining us. Good to be with you. What was your reaction when you saw this announcement from President Trump? Well, as with so many things with Donald Trump, he always makes it about himself. The Kennedy Center has been a living memorial for 55 years to President Kennedy and to the arts. And it's been nonpartisan. and in just one short year, he has destroyed all of that.
Starting point is 00:24:32 So it's very troubling for those of us who have enjoyed it for decades and for somebody who did participate as a board member, it's very troubling to see another lawless action. First, he put his name on it. And he has attacked and besmirched people who were involved in dedicating their careers to the Kennedy Center. So he makes it about himself. And now because it's been a failure, because people have left and not wanted to be involved with it now because what he has done, he's now, you know, shutting it down.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And now we have to worry about what he might do. Will he try and destroy the building itself like he has the East Wing? We can't trust that he'll do anything legal because there's an open case right now challenging what he's done. putting his own name on it. What it's that itself, I certainly don't think is legal. The way he's removed board members, certainly we don't think it's legal. And he hasn't involved Congress in this, which provides funding. And we don't see that the leadership in Congress will step up and challenge him.
Starting point is 00:25:45 This closure for renovation depends on the board's approval. Do you think that they are going to approve this? And to your point about members of Congress, should Congress have, some oversight about this closure and renovation for the next two years? Well, certainly Congress should. I don't have a lot of, you know, trust that they will because this Congress, this leadership, has shown no interest in standing up to Donald Trump. Certainly this board, which is his board.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I mean, he made this decision. Then he said, oh, well, I'll give it to my board. And we know how his boards usually perform. So it is very troubling. But yes, Congress should stand up and do its own job since they provided the money. And if they don't, I certainly hope that those of us who are involved in the people who are involved in lawsuits, I certainly hope those who are concerned about it will withhold funding until it, you know, until it's shown that there will be bipartisan action on this.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And it should not be shut down. I mean, that is very troubling. You know, all of us who have seen the Kennedy Center in action for these, you know, many, for decades, have seen that, you know, this has functioned fine until he came along in this past year and has destroyed all of that. Recently spoke with the Kennedy Center president Rick Rinell, who said that they are changing programming to appeal to a wider audience. Here's what he told Omna last month. This is a phenomenon. that's been going on for decades. Arts centers are struggling.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And the only way that you can go forward and have an arts institution that's financially secure is to look at the holistic aspect. We cannot have arts institutions that lose money because you have programming that is woke or not popular. Do you think that his point there and what he says that the president is also making that point he was saying, too,
Starting point is 00:27:53 that the programming needs to appeal to a broader audience. Do you think that the Kennedy Center programming was not appealing to a broad audience and needed some changes? Well, I think the programming, it has been speaking for itself. You know, it has been filled up for decades. And Rick Rennell is certainly not a competent person
Starting point is 00:28:13 to be heading it up. He did not have the background to be put in charge of this. So it's very sad to see a partisan like this, again, somebody who's been smearing the reputations of the people who have been involved on a voluntary basis dedicating their money as well as their careers to this institution. And then he comes along and attacks it with no background or experience in this.
Starting point is 00:28:41 What would a two-year shutdown of the Kennedy Center mean for the arts, both locally and nationally? Do you think that the venue can recover? Well, I certainly hope it doesn't come to that. But listen, they've been, you know, my understanding is Donald Trump has been, you know, out there shaking down the community for money. So what has been, you know, who's been giving money to this right now? What's going on? What is the plan for this?
Starting point is 00:29:08 When we look at what he's done, the example already we've seen of what he's done with the East Wing, what is the vision of what he's going to do when he's asking people to give money. and then he has this partisan board that is his board, who is making these decisions. So I think this needs to be taken out of his hands and out of the hands of his partisans and put it back into the hands of an independent board into the hands of Congress and oversight. I mean, it would just be tragic to have this revered art center destroyed by somebody who's never shown any. love of the arts. Former Congresswoman Barbara Comstock, thank you for being here. Thank you. And late today, President Trump said he would not be, quote, ripping down the Kennedy Center, but indicated the interior could be gutted. Meanwhile, a special election in the lone star state
Starting point is 00:30:06 further erodes Republicans' margin in the U.S. House of Representatives. That, as the federal government partially shuts down again. For more, we turn to our Politics Monday duo. That is Amy Walter of the Cook Political Report with Amy Walter and Tamara Keith of NPR. Great to see you both. Good to be here. Let's talk about Texas. Two races I want to ask you about one, not a surprise. The 18th congressional district there, a Democrat Christian Menifee, won a special election
Starting point is 00:30:29 to fill a seat that's been vacant since a member passed over a year ago. The other, Amy, for a state Senate seat in Fort Worth where Democrat Taylor were met, won in a district that Trump won by 17 points last year. What happened there? Well, I think it's easy to look at this and think, well, we're living. through a time right now where Trump, the backlash to ICE, his approval ratings going down, thinking that this is directly connected to that. But if you look overall, look at all the special elections that have been taking place since 2025, this fits into the pattern that we've
Starting point is 00:31:02 seen, which is Democrats outperforming what Kamala Harris got in those districts in 2024 by on average 13 points. So it is part of the headwinds that continues. to batter Republicans right now. You know, you could look at 2025 and say, well, maybe these will ease up as we get into 2026. Obviously, this race in Texas shows that there's absolutely none of that happening right now. Concerns for Republicans in the midterms. What are we hearing from the White House?
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah, and special elections are special. So, you know, you can't take one election and say, wow, this is how everyone is going to be in the fall. But, you know, a fascinating case with this race, Trump did endorse that candidate. He did go on social media and say, you got to get out there, you got to vote. And then when asked about him losing by a really significant margin, the president was like, I'm just learning about this right now. Who are you talking about? I don't know what you're talking about. You know, when I'm not on the ballot, sometimes people lose.
Starting point is 00:32:07 And that has been his answer to a lot of these losses. The reality is whether he's on the ballot or not, he will be on the ballot in November, not just because Democrats will make sure that people are voting based on Trump and his policies and putting a check on him, but also because the White House has said they intend to make these elections about him. They want him out there campaigning once a week. They want him being the face of the Republican Party. Amy, do we know if that'll make a difference? Well, right now, what this race and others special elections have shown is that it's not just that Democrats are turning out at a higher level, and they are. They're more enthusiastic than Republicans to vote. But independents are breaking dramatically to Democrats.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Again, this is a district, as you said, that Trump won by 17 points. It doesn't mean all districts in 2026 that he won by 17 are going to suddenly become Democratic. But if you're a Republican sitting in a district that Trump won by double digits, normally you would feel pretty safe. But I'm looking at these numbers, the president's overall approval ratings, other data points suggest this could be a very, very difficult night, even for Republicans and so-called safe seats by the time we hit the midterms, if this continues. Meanwhile, we're in another partial government shutdown. Tam, we know Democrats have been using this to try to push for changes to ICE tactics as part of the immigration. Cracked down just today, we saw the Homeland Security Secretary say, effective immediately, they will be deploying body cameras to all, offers in Minneapolis. They'll expand it nationwide. She said as funding is available, this is something Democrats wanted, though. Are they getting what they want from this shutdown?
Starting point is 00:33:47 This is one of the things that Democrats wanted. This is not the only thing that Democrats want. They also want these immigration officials, enforcement officers, to remove their masks and identify themselves. They want judicial warrants instead of administrative warrants. An administrative warrant is basically like, you can sign it yourself of your law enforcement. You need a judge for a judicial warrant. And also changes to the approach to the use of force. Are Democrats going to get all of that? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:34:18 However, I will say that one interesting thing to watch is that there are going to be these hearings with the top immigration officials coming up to Capitol Hill and they are going to get pressed. And I expect they are not just going to get pressed by Democrats, but they're going to get pressed by Republicans on some of these things. And so, you know, will Democrats get their maximalist desires? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Republicans actually have a lot of maximalist desires, too, on immigration. They'd like to go even farther in the other direction. But the potential does exist for a compromise. The potential also exists for them to kick the can by a couple of weeks for the rest of the year. How are Americans looking at the shutdown and the crackdown? I think what we're seeing right now, two things. We have Americans and we have partisan voters. I think one challenge, one interesting thing to watch,
Starting point is 00:35:03 if there is a compromise will be how Democratic primary voters or Democratic partisans respond to this. I was talking last week to a Democratic strategist who said, look, even as we talk about maybe some compromise, maybe getting the administration to do some of the things we would like to see them doing, I don't know, this person said, if it can meet this level of rage within the Democratic base right now about how ICE is performing. I've been watching a lot of campaign ads in Democratic primaries. ISIS front and center in those ads. So Democrats have a Democratic voters have a very clear idea what they would like to see. Well, let's see what the final thing, what the final package could look like. Finally, how are Americans saying this? Well, when the spotlight is on issues
Starting point is 00:35:50 related to the border or just overall security, are we living in, are the people who are coming here safe? Do we want to deport criminals? That's where Trump has an advantage. But when it's focused on how ICE is carrying out its duties, that's where Trump is at a very deep disadvantage. And as we know, for these last few weeks, we haven't been talking very much about the border. We've been talking overwhelmingly about ICE. Amy Walter, Tamara Keith. Always great to start the week with you both. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:36:19 You're welcome. Now a journey to freedom after more than 900 days in captivity. Elizabeth Serkhov, a Russian-Israeli doctoral student at Princeton University, was conducting research in Baghdad in 2012. when she was kidnapped and held by an Iran-linked militia for more than two and a half years. Her release last September followed a high-stakes international push. We sat down recently for her first American television interview. Elizabeth Serkov, welcome to the News Hour. It's so good to see you here in person.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Thank you so much for having me. So first and most importantly, you've been free for just a few months now. How are you? How are you feeling? How are you doing? Well, mentally, I feel I'm well. Obviously, I'm in therapy, but I'm well, and I'm happy to be alive. And I appreciate things about life that I previously took for granted, like having windows in the room and being able to see what's outside and the sun and enjoying its warmth, not here in D.C., but in theory, in general. and being with my loved ones and being, you know, able to say what I want and read what I want. And freedom is truly something you don't appreciate
Starting point is 00:37:54 until you lose it. And I didn't appreciate it. Physically, I'm not great because of the torture. All my joints are damaged. Now sitting the knee hurts. On top of that, during the torture, Katab Hezbollah, the militants who cannot meet. herniated two discs in my back.
Starting point is 00:38:14 So I'm sitting now with a belt to kind of hold it in to prevent the pain. And a lot of the time I'm basically at home I kind of half lie, half sit. It's still a struggle. You wrote an essay detailing your experience and you titled it, I was kidnapped by idiots about your treatment and your torture
Starting point is 00:38:39 while you were kidnapped and held hostage. You said that after they discovered you were Israeli, the treatment changed. Yeah. How so? Basically, I was kidnapped for a ransom as a foreigner, not as an Israeli. They thought this is a money-making exercise by grabbing you. And even after they realized that I'm Israeli, it remained very much about money for them. They genuinely believed the confessions that they extracted under torture that I'm a double CIA and Mulsad spy.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Before that, they would starve me. The kidnapping itself was extremely violent. But other than that, the interrogations did not involve violence. But afterwards, it became basically the rule is that I'm getting tortured, you know, being strung up to the ceiling, you know, while handcuffed, either with hands above my head or hands behind my back. and, you know, being pummeled, you know, beaten, electrocuted, put into painful positions. And this is what caused the damage to the nerves and damage to my joints and my back. Elizabeth, for you to sit here and list the treatment like that, something that happened to you, something you endured, something you survived. What is that like?
Starting point is 00:39:58 You know, it's something that, you know, I was, before my kidnapping, I worked on human rights issues, both in Israel, Palestine, and in the Syrian context, and I have friends who have gone through torture in Syria and Iraq and Iran. So I knew a lot about torture. Probably one of the most knowledgeable people about torture in a theoretical sense, who has ever been then captured in the world. tortured and still nothing really prepares you for for that horror all the theoretical knowledge you can have about different positions and about it's still it's it's it just there's something deeply dehumanizing about that experience and just witnessing people who enjoy doing that I wouldn't do this to a cat you know
Starting point is 00:41:04 And they were doing it to a fellow human being who is screaming and talking to them in their language. They understand me fully. And yet they're capable of doing that. I mean, this is kind of pure monstrosity. We know now that it took months and months of sustained diplomatic pressure from the U.S., from Israel, from Iraq to secure your release. But what is your understanding of why they decided to let you go in the end? Things really changed when President Trump, you know, won the election, and I was about to say was sworn in, but actually action began even before he was sworn in. Adam Boller, who was one of the early appointments in the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:41:46 He leaves the hostage affairs. Exactly. So he agreed to take on my case. Then Adam Boller traveled to Iraq, forced his way into a meeting with the prime minister, demanded my release. And finally, the person who sealed the deal is Mark Savaya. who is an Iraqi-American, was recently appointed as the special envoy to Iraq
Starting point is 00:42:05 of the Trump administration. And he traveled in early September, 2025, to Baghdad, met with Sudani, the Prime Minister of Iraq, and told them to tell Kata'Ir Hezbollah, to tell the leadership that if they don't release me within a week, Trump is going to kill them. And because Trump had killed the previous commander
Starting point is 00:42:26 of Ketar Hezbollah, Abou Mahdi al-Mohandis in 2020, they believe them, and they released me within a week. Mark stayed behind in Iraq waiting for me to get out. So much of your academic work that you mentioned, you're still continuing now, focuses on the kind of people who kidnapped you, who tortured you for those years. You're continuing that work now, but I wonder if you look at that entire world of power and militias and all of this,
Starting point is 00:42:53 do you look at it differently now? Oh, absolutely. Basically, my roommates, my guards, right, work at the same. that has a fellow members, and this allowed me to learn so much about them. You know, these militias in their rhetoric, the way they present themselves, they're always, you know, we are a resistance movement against the U.S. occupation, against Israel, et cetera. In reality, the majority of their victims are Arabs. The Iraqi militias throughout their entire history have killed only two Israelis with a drone
Starting point is 00:43:24 attack, and I'm their only victim, kidnapping victim, who is in Israeli. The rest are Iraqis. You know, all the cars in which I was driven were new, had new car smell, were leather seats. In the last facility where I was held, there was a jacuzzi, not for me, obviously. The commanders of these militias are extremely rich men. And this was very evident also in the members who interacted with me or my guards. There are people who are just there for salary because Iraq doesn't have a private sector. And this is a way to get a job.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And the additional perk you get is that you are also intimidating your surrounding. So it draws people who enjoy feeling power over others, scaring their neighbor. You know, I can park in his parking spot. He's not going to do anything. I'm with the militia. It often draws people from very poor backgrounds, people who look down upon, and now they want to feel strong. Can I just say, Elizabeth, to hear you talk about it this way,
Starting point is 00:44:19 this is clearly your area of expertise. You have encyclopedic knowledge, but to have... lived through what you lived through, it must feel very personal now. It does. It does. And knowing that these militias, you know, the way they're viewed in Washington, which is very understandable,
Starting point is 00:44:41 is they're a threat to U.S. national security. And that's clear. These militias have killed American soldiers in Iraq. But I also see basically the human cost that they exact from Iraqi society. The cell where I was held in the first place, prison had blood stains on it. That blood was not mine. That was blood from some Iraqi who was kidnapped by this group and torture. These militias, their influence, their capture of the Iraqi
Starting point is 00:45:08 state means misery for the millions of Iraqis who live there. So, of course, the U.S. is out there to pursue its own interests. But those interests often align with the interests of the Iraqi people who are the main victims of these militias. It's not the U.S. and it's not me. It's a testament to you and your work and your spirit that you are sharing their stories as you sit here today. But we're so glad to see you here today. And thank you so much for making the time to speak with us. Elizabeth Serkov. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:45:39 It is a celebration as well as a reckoning. The Studio Museum in Harlem reopened this fall after seven years in a new building that showcases its history of highlighting black artists. A history and project credited with helping change. and diversify the art world. Senior arts correspondent Jeffrey Brown visited the museum for our arts and culture series, Canvas. Today, Thelma Golden is a widely respected and much-loved figure in the art world.
Starting point is 00:46:15 But everyone has to start somewhere, and as it happens, an important somewhere for her was as a young intern at the very place she's now led for 20 years, the Studio Museum in Harlem. This museum opened up a whole world for me. Because here was this museum that was founded so specifically to steward the work of black artists. And what I encountered here as a young person was a group of people who were so passionately committed with so much purpose
Starting point is 00:46:48 and that we're doing it in ways that, you know, didn't ever occur to me were possible. All these years later, Golden is presiding over the reopening of the museum. in a stunning new $160 million building that somehow fits into its former site on 125th Street in the heart of Harlem, an historic center of Black American life and culture. Seven floors doubling its former exhibition space, offering multiple pathways in a design by Ajay Associates,
Starting point is 00:47:20 a large lobby with a neon Miwi by artist Glenn Ligon. A roof garden with stunning views out over Manhattan, Manhattan skylines, water towers and church steeples included. But the underlying story remains how the studio from its founding in 1968 helped change what's seen on museum and gallery walls around the world. The studio museum was necessary because the contributions of artists of African descent were not being adequately acknowledged. were not being collected or shown in institution.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Art histories were often excluding some of the major voices. They were there. They were doing their work. They were doing their work. They were there. There was a century of contribution. But quite often, art history was not including them. And the Studio Museum, our founders, were part of a larger movement, which really looked at
Starting point is 00:48:19 what it meant to revise the canon. An archival exhibition now captures some of that history. It's founding in a loft over a liquor store by a group of artists and philanthropists amid the turmoil of the 1960s and the civil rights movement. The move in the early 80s to its present site of former bank building. One of the first artists shown in 1968, Tom Lloyd, who created electric light sculptures, is now honored with a solo exhibition in the news base. The main exhibition titled From Now, a Collection in Context, contains works by early pioneers, such as Romare Bearden, Jacob Lawrence, Elizabeth Catlett, and later generations who've burst the seams of the art world and drawn international attention.
Starting point is 00:49:07 A few among very many, painters Kerry James Marshall and Jean-Michel Basquiat. Photographers Carrie Mae Weems and Dawood Bay, sculptor Barbara Chase Rebu. It also captures the diversity of black art, political as in David Hammond's Pray for America, and personal Tom Feeleings' mother and child, representational, Barclay Hendrix, Lottie Mama, and abstract William T. Williams train. There is no one way we can describe black art. That, you know, is where we understand the sort of multiplicity of voices, the multiplicity of ways of seeing an imaginative.
Starting point is 00:49:47 seeing and imagining. Another exhibition celebrates the Studio Museum's Artist and Residence program, which has given space, time, and support to more than 150 artists, and help launched many international careers, including that of 36-year-old Jordan Castile, who grew up in Denver knowing of the museum's history before coming to New York as a young artist.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Word on the street amongst artists was so attached to what this museum had done for them, either person, were a place that they would visit, a sense that they could feel themselves and belong to them, whether they were a resident or not, it didn't matter. They ultimately all felt a sense of belonging. And I think you wanted to be part of that. And I wanted to be a part of that. I desperately wanted to be a part of that. And when I got the call from Thelma Golden, I remember thinking this was a moment that could change my life forever. One of the paintings Castile made during her residency, a portrait of Kevin the Kite Man,
Starting point is 00:50:43 a man she saw every day out her window across 125th Street. It became part of a series of paintings of local figures with a goal of representing the neighborhood, bringing its people and life inside the museum. I wanted to create that bridge quite literally in terms of the representation, the furthering of the bridge of what this institution meant for me and like wanting to share it out onto the street to the people that I was meeting. That sense of being a part of Harlem is crucial here and scenes of its life are everywhere. in Lorraine O'Grady's Art Is series, and an exhibit titled Harlem Postcards, photographs by local and visiting artists over several decades. Harlem has always been this kind of gathering place of people thinking and people doing,
Starting point is 00:51:30 and this museum has been a nexus for decades. Artist and writer Christopher Myers remembers coming here as a child with his father, Walter Dean Myers, the renowned author of books for children and young adults. Now Christopher has created a commissioned work for the museum's new education center, where children will come for school and after school visits. His large paintings on steel titled Harlem is a myth portray local figures, the famous such as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and every day, young girls in front of a movie theater, giving them mythological wings and other traits.
Starting point is 00:52:07 I'm thinking about just the kind of mythic resonance of all those people. I mean, literally, because you're making them into mythic cap. Of course. I feel like sometimes we lose sight of the specialness of what it means to be part of a myth like Harlem. And especially for young people to understand that they need to imagine themselves to be larger than their environment, larger than their world. They need to imagine themselves to be as big as Harlem. If the studio museum originally opened in one period of turmoil, the 1960s, it reopens in another. commit attacks on diversity programs, museums, and how American history and culture are presented. It continues the resolve for what it means to have public institutions that are committed
Starting point is 00:52:56 to, you know, what it means to create space, right, in moments like this. Our archive, you know, keeps telling me so much from the past of where this is exactly where our founders were in 1968. So also, thinking about this as the legacy. of this institution, to continue to work in ways that promote, you know, the sort of widest ideals of democracy and justice. On the one hand, the museum celebrates its success in helping widen the lens of the larger art world.
Starting point is 00:53:30 On the other, Golden insists the necessity of a museum capturing the vision and voices of black artists is as strong as ever. For the PBS NewsHour, I'm Jeffrey Brown at the Studio Museum in Harlem. And that's the NewsHour for tonight. I'm Jeff Bennett. And I'm Amna Nawaz. On behalf of the entire NewsHour team, thank you for joining us.

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