Peak Prosperity - David Collum: Data, Deception, and Revolution

Episode Date: February 6, 2025

Chris and Dave Collum discuss rapid global changes, political shifts, corruption, misinformation, media censorship, financial system impacts, and predictions of societal shifts and accountability.ResourcesYear in Review Part IYear in Review Part IIGoldCoreGold and Silver Buying Guide

The following is the audio version of a video released at peakprosperity.com. Visit peakprosperity.com to watch the video and to find other insightful content such as articles, discussion forums, and exclusive subscriber-only content. Hello everyone and welcome to this Signal Hour. I know that's three this week already and we just have to keep going because things are breaking so quickly. Now, we had a really extraordinary interview that everybody really loved, and that was with Dave Collum. He writes a year in review. He is a chemistry professor at Cornell. He's a really sharp thinker, so we're bringing him back on just to go through all the extraordinary things. Dave, oh, and your dogs.

So good to have you here with us. I have five in the room right now. Four. Four. Four dogs. So we'll see if we can track them through the through the progress of this interview. So, wow. What an extraordinary time to be alive. I think we're in the midst of an actual revolution. What are you thinking? how do you see it well yeah i mean you mean the revolution meaning first of all the election of trump and then the the the booting out of a bunch of democratically elected states around the western world um i also think that uh that the election of trump is

is way bigger than than just the presidency. There's this kind of mood shift where all of a sudden the left-wing bullies can't bully us anymore. I think that's a big part. And as we're discovering is Trump is not bashful about discovering grift and crime and bad people and outing them. I just saw a tweet this morning where it's talking about the billions stolen from USAID. Yeah, lots and lots of billions, unfortunately. And it looks like, David,

it's actually a organized system of graft and corruption where my money, your money, taxpayer money was funneled into this organization and then funneled right back into all these swamp creatures is how I'm going to call them, because it's it's it's pretty bad here. I'll tell you, I think I'm going to find this. This is live, everybody. So, again, if you have comments, we're reading the comments. This is out on Rumble. This is out on YouTube. It's on Twitter, of course, or X. X is the signal these days.

And so what I want to do is invite everybody, if you are watching this on YouTube, a little foreshadowing. We're going to go as far as we can because, you know, Dave and I, we talk widely, broadly. We have no limits. We want to talk about everything that's actually happening. And, of course, there are still censorship activities out there. I hope these are going to come to an end. I hope that we're going to discover the degree to which many of these corporations have been in cahoots with government agencies to stifle free speech censorship that has led to actual deaths among people. But we'll save that for the next part of

this, which won't be on YouTube. So foreshadowing, we're going to carry this on until we feel like we want to talk about things that we know would get us in trouble with YouTube. And then we're going to kill that feed. But you can still follow us on Rumble, on Twitter. And of course, at Peak Prosperity, we have a live feed going there all the time. Peakprosperity.com, easy way to follow because whatever feed we kill, that one stays live, of course. So and we are monitoring the the comments over here. And so here, Dave, this is how it's going to work. Like I might pull up a comment from Granite Stateman says, remember to pray for patriotic pro mega fed employees like myself, keeping our nation safe. So that's what it'll

look like when we're bringing in comments. And then the other thing I want to do is I want to bring in actual screenshots. And so let me bring in this one here. And all right, Dave, do you see this? Just barely. Okay, let me read this. This is from a post from a Justin Murphy said Elon is doing applied political science. He had a hypothesis, and then he bet on it. And in being correct, we are learning empirically. The professional managerial class had perfected a system of moral blackmail through which they convert third world suffering into personal wealth and status. They position themselves as noble humanitarian experts with PhDs who care deeply about things like global poverty to justify their own sinecures extracted

from the national purse. These credentialed do-gooders wield the threat of African deaths as a shield against any questioning of their privileges. We've long understood bourgeois professional hypocrisy in theory, but never before have we had such a complete empirical revelation of the exact dollar amounts, networks, and individual names involved across the top of the PMC hierarchy. Professional political scientists are generally feigning horror at Elon right now, but that's because they are members of the PMC, professional managerial class, that is, even if they are only minor and distant dependents on that. So, what do you think about that? Well, so as we were talking about earlier today, what I've realized, I had an epiphany this year when things started going quickly to the point, I think it was Brett Weinstein said,

it's happening so fast, you don't have time to metabolize it. Right. And so what I realized is that if I take a day off, which as you know, I was driving all day yesterday and I'm in, I'm in foreign occupied territory today in someone else's apartment, um, you lose track of what's happening. And then I realized is that, well, if I lose lose track taking my eye off the ball for a day what's it like for joe six-pack who's just trying to put food on the table and and and and you know get to work and put the kids to bed and and the guy has no chance of of remotely wrapping their arms around the world as as it's happening they they just And that's why the media is such a problem, because they suck so bad. The USAID, if you had told me that they were sending money to

foreign countries and the guys in the foreign countries were stealing it, I would say, well, of course. But my understanding is that it's the stealing the big steal is is people within our system stealing it um you have names of who has actually been is there anyone who's going holy shit i better lawyer up you know do you have names i don't we don't have that yet but um i think that's part two of this story is that i think they've been untouchable for so long. We saw that email, right? I don't know if you saw this, but let me catch you up on this if you didn't. And for anybody else who maybe missed this, it's an email from Mike Morrell. It's to John Brennan. And he's saying, hey, I'd like your signature as 51 people on this letter to say that

this Hunter Biden laptop has all the looks like Russian disinformation. Right. So you saw that email and he said right in the email, including knowing that he's going to get signatories who are actively on the CIA payroll at that point in time, working within the CIA for the U.S. government, saying we want to give Biden some talking points. Right. For his next debate that's interfering with the U.S. election. That was the purpose for signing that letter. And they were so cocky, Dave. They put it in an email like, you know, you would think intelligence guys would have more intelligence than that. Right. The other thing that came out the other day that did not make sense to me. But it seems like it's certainly part of the crazy quilt that we're trying to put

together and that is zelensky said by the way of the 176 trillion you sent us we only got 75 176 what was that about well we only got 75 and so all of a sudden it's like well where'd the 101 going why would zelensky say that but yeah why why Why would he say that, do you think? That was super mysterious. Is that biting the hand that feeds you? I don't know. I just don't know. Or maybe he's trying to not get whacked. I don't know. You know, who knows? It seems to me that if a guy is trying to get something out of us, ratting out the criminals who are giving him the money strikes me as a problem. Well, I love your understatement on that one. This is going to get into very tricky territory, but Trump, you know, he canceled the USAID with the exception of two countries. One is Israel, which is, no, this is my shock face, right?

And the other is Egypt. And then you watch the Netanyahu speech where Trump seems to make this preposterous claim about, you know, moving the Palestinians to their own homeland. You know, some homeland, which these things never work, right? These always fail. But he said, like Egypt. And I'm going, wait a minute. Has some deal already been struck? Well, I mean, Egypt was always the,

they sort of didn't want the Palestinians back in the original days. And it's sort of the poor Palestinians don't really have a place to go. No, not a bit. I just posted one of the most contentious tweets. I've posted a long time and I said, that's saying something. I know. I've gotten in trouble a couple times, I'm told. I wrote, Gaza, Palisades, Maui. What's the common denominator? Chat amongst yourselves.

All of them look like it's when Maui fires burn. Let's stay away from Gaza. When the Maui fires burn, they immediately start talking about the state buying up the land. So the speculator, evil, evil speculators wouldn't get in there, which I'm sympathetic to. But the state is not the solution. They did that in western North Carolina, too. You're right. That's right. And then they just talked about how some bureaucratic organization would rebuild Palisades. And so they all look like land grabs to me. Well, so if we have this right, the story as we understand it right now is that the federal government just metastasized into this giant sort of corruption machine. Right. And I define corruption as taking taxpayer money and then handing it out to all your friends and family. Like when we found out that USAID's employees had a 97 percent donation rate to Democrats.

I'm shocked. Shocked. Is that your shocked face? That's my shocked face. Right. So this is why I want to talk to you because we need context, Dave. So we got it like that. All this stuff is breaking and there's people trying to pretend like eight point one million to Politico isn't what you think it is. And that's just noise. Let's rewind. You know, whose fingers are into this hard is Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, right? Well, the Clinton crime family is truly an extraordinary thing. I mean, they make the Italian mafia look like pikers. So give us that context.

What is going on here? I got a tweet here I'll find about this that I think captures it. By the way, you should consider having Mike Benz on. Oh, I am. I will. It's like drinking out of a fire hydrant. I know. It's encyclopedic. But I was driving here yesterday, and all of a sudden, I'm listening to Mike Gallagher or Charlie Kirk, who's not my favorite talk show guy.

And I hear him interviewing a guy. I go, that's Mike Benz, right? And I recognize that voice. And Mike is really getting out there. Mike must have a research team. Either that or his brain is way bigger than mine because his capacity to hold information is extraordinary. It really is, actually. Yeah. He just riffs it off the top of his head. No show notes. I've never seen him glance down. He doesn't wait for you to catch up. I mean, he is take no prisoners presentation. So let's talk about the the I got we have to set the context for this. So I think that a lot of things went off the rails pretty heavily during Clinton. Right. So remember, it was Bill Clinton. We had things like Waco.

We had the Oklahoma City bombing. We had the repeal of Glass-Steagall. We had the initial World Trade Center bombings of 93. That lot of stuff went kind of pear-shaped under him. And then Hillary just continued that. And let's see, let me pull up this. Let me drop a haunting observation that I've been thinking about for years. And it finally just clicked. And really, an idea goes from your head to your to your gut and i find it just so oddly coincidental that bill clinton would meet kennedy when he was a teenager yeah doesn't that seem improbable it does doesn't it yeah i've seen the bohemian grove pictures with like reagan and ford and nixon and like they all they're all sitting there i've seen the bohemian grove pictures with like reagan and ford and nixon

and like they all they're all sitting there i've seen those pictures you've seen the bohemian grove with them sitting there i've not seen those it's like all sitting inside a block i mean is it i mean is it really back and there's a young george bush all of that here here's what's in danger of happening right now um everything is being revealed at once. This is going to be a national shock and a trauma. It's a psychological shock because we've all had this private knowledge. Private knowledge is when you and I, Dave, we can sit down and say, yeah, the JFK assassination, obviously bunk them. Right. It's the official story does not hold water. And you know that. I know that the majority of people know that. I think when they poll people, 70 percent, 80 are like, oh, yeah, something's wrong. But that's still private knowledge. Common knowledge is when everybody knows that everybody knows something. And all of a sudden it bursts out. And now it's it's common knowledge. Well, you know what's in danger of common knowledge? Everything the Clintons have been up to, all the stuff we've had to put up with, just what really did happen on 9-11. What really how does the Federal Reserve actually operate?

This is all on the table. This could be wild. It is nothing off the table. Nothing is off the table. And I don't you know, if you gave me a top 10 list of what I would like to know. I don't think the Kennedy assassination would even make it at this point because I've had no trouble accepting that since when I was a freshman in college, someone dragged me to a talk and I don't know why I went, but it was Mark Lane. Mark Lane was Oswald's lawyer.

And I don't remember much about the talk. I was not politically active. I don't know why they let me drag me there. But he was paid by the Kennedys. The Kennedys hired him to defend Oswald. According to Mark Lane. And I go, well, that story just got interesting, didn't it? So I read Peter Dale Scott's book.

He's probably done a lot, but there's one on the deep state and the killing of JFK. And it's very scholarly. It's not, you know, stuff. He really works through the details and methodically. You can't read Peter Dale Scott without realizing he started studying the drug world thinking he was going to track down the cartels and immediately, like within no time flat, ricocheted back to the CIA. Then I recently did some digging and there's a book called Operation Gladio that describes the triumvirate of the CIA organized crime, which both make sense since the CIA was formed from organized crime. Same business model. Yep. Well, not the same business model. The original CIA guys were from the mobs and the Vatican. And so the CIA handles the

geopolitical stuff. The organized crime gets the drugs to the streets and the Vatican is the banker. Now, who's going to try to take over that turf? That's not a group you want to be trying to push around, right? You're going to get whacked fast if you try to take them on. So the entire drug world, with the exception, maybe the fentanyl because of China, the entire drug world is run by the CIA. And they're a big part of the trafficking world, as are the Clintons. Well, let me add something to that, because, you know, again, these scratchy record moments. Now we can talk about them. And I'm glad for that. So remember, the United States decides that Afghanistan splatters from a bullet coming through the window. It's true. But it will reassemble itself like the Terminator 2 Borg. Right. But so the United States decides that Afghanistan is somehow responsible for 9-11. Don't even get me started on that. But we attack them. It turned out that the Taliban had taken opium and poppy production to zero. And then we attack. And next thing you know, we're guarding opium fields. That's a lot. Right. And then every day you're reading about how we did a hellfire drone strike on a number two for Al Qaeda.

And we were taking out number two every day. Right. It was like I don't know how many number twos they had, but it was about infinity. Meanwhile, somehow opium and heroin production went back up to 7000 tons and we couldn't track the trucks leaving Afghanistan. It's just like it that escaped our capabilities. But we could find number two. That was really clearly. Didn't make sense. Come on.

That was really clearly. After a while, you realize that we buy off drug lords. We say, look, you get to be the ones to sell the opium. You get to be the ones to sell the cocaine. Noriega pissed off someone, so we went and took him out. El Chapo pissed off someone, and we went and took him out. And so I used to think the drug lords bought our politicians. And then I realized, no, no, no, no. The CIA is saying to the drug lords, look, you'll get your shtick, but when we need your help,

you better be there. Well, and I'm sure they have to pay their, you know, you'll get your shtick, but when we need your help, you better be there. Well, and I'm sure they have to pay their, you know, you got to, we need some vig. We need a little taste. That's the CIA. It pays for a few bills for things that they don't want to fess up to you. I'm told it's a rumor. Yeah. Yeah. Now, now just to, just to fit it, maybe I can never finish out, but just a little more on the whole Clinton thing. Oh, sorry. Wrong one. Here's Hillary Clinton. It's a tweet.

I'm going to read it. She says, talking about Secretary Sean Duffy had sent out a tweet saying, big news. Talk to the Doge team. They're going to help plug in to help upgrade our aviation system, which probably needs help, right? And Hillary said they have no relevant experience. Most of them aren't old enough to rent a car, and you're going to let them mess with airline safety that's already blah, blah, blah, blah, right? This idea that, so you can see they had Russiagate. Hillary just goes to these simple themes, dog whistles them out, and then you see it get picked

up over and over again by people on Blue Sky and Reddit and on Twitter to an extent, right. Saying, Oh yeah, they're too young to, they don't know what they're doing. Leaving aside the idea, Dave, that the people who did know what they were doing brought us to this point. Right. Well, do you remember when, when, when, when Trump won in 16, Hillary said, we're all going to go to prison. And we didn't quite know what that meant, right? Because there's a lot of potential candidates for why you would want to send Hillary to prison. So, um, but it could be all the way from satanic crap to drug running to

child trafficking, that sort of thing. But Donna Brazil at one at one point said that she was so afraid that she slept with her curtains closed. She, she, in her apartment, she didn't open her curtains. She didn't want some sniper getting her. And then she, she stopped saying that after about a day or two, because I'm sure someone said, you don't want a sniper to hit you in the head. First of all, right. So, so yeah, I think the Clintons are pretty evil to the core. I think they formed a psychopathy alliance. They didn't get married. They signed some contract that said, here's the deal.

I'm going to get this. You're going to get that. And we're going to both get to be the sickest bastards on the planet. So, yeah, I don't think Bill and Hillary ever really cared about each other is my guess. Well, probably not. So things are breaking really fast. What have we found out lately? We found out, I would have thought, Dave, that going into USAID, busting that open Lifetime Achievement Award, this is like- What's the total budget of USAID, by the way? What's the total budget? It's variously between $40 billion on the books, $70 billion when they had special projects running or something like that.

That's between like one and a half and three FEMA's. Think how much damage you could do. I know. Yeah. And what's interesting is on on X right now, you've got it goes by Data Republican somehow took that whole database and did hero's work. I don't stayed up five days straight and found a way that when you query any particular EIN number, which is how you identify who's getting grant recipients, that it would then track all the ways that those EINs related to each other in a cloud map. And so you find out that like Bill Kristol is out there saying, this is terrible. And then you find out that the way this graft works is a big grant goes to X, you know, into entity, you know, and then they do a pass through to another entity who does another pass through, who does another pass through. And that's how this game has been run for a long time.

Shell companies work fine when you didn't have this supercomputing. But now they can, you know, you can't have enough shell companies to fake out, you know, a good server now. And so, for example, I mean, when the 2020 election went belly up, protocol speaking, I dug into Smartmatic. And Smartmatic was owned through a series of shell companies going first to Canada. And then it turns out they had gone private in 2018, which was really entertaining. Good timing there, guys, right before the 2020 election. But that Canadian company passed through to UBS, passed through shell companies to get to Beijing. And so China owns Smartmatic.

And I wonder if that elected the way they want it. I think it did. So the other thing is Smartmatic was based on software that was it was written supposedly to to rig South American elections. So. Yep. Yep. Well, let me let me pull let me pull this up, show you what I'm talking about. If you haven't seen this, you got to get caught up on this. So this is this is what happens when you go to data Republican site and you just query it now and you say, hey, tell me about this. And anything that's coded in red says this is potentially flagged now for misuse of funds, taxpayer funds. So to your point, Dave, this is the power of AI. A forensic accountant, this chart would have taken a team of PwC accountants eight months to produce. And this

guy did it in five days. These are the people that Hillary's scared about. These are the young people who don't know what they're doing, right? This is AI playing chess, basically, right? This is just, this is. Well, think think about it you needed somebody like donald trump who just doesn't give uh af about what you think so you needed a wrecking ball and then you needed a technocrat like elon with his team of hot shots to come in because only way we're getting to the bottom of this quickly and thoroughly is with some tools look at this tool this guy built in five days. So the quantities of money are both disturbing and relative to our total indebtedness. Yeah. Tiny, right?

Yeah. So we're $250 trillion unfunded liability. So to get wired up about $40 billion is, on the one hand, not even worth sweating about. But then you say, but who got the $40 billion? And then you say, oh, now that's why I asked if people are being named yet. Yeah, not yet, but we're getting there. So let me walk people through this chart because it's a little small, but you can find it at Data Republican. So in the center, if you can see in between, sandwiched between the two yellow

ones, there's a red one. That red one is the Tide Center. It's EIN 943213100, gross receipts, $252 million, right? In some other change. Taxpayer funds exposed $35.345 million. They then funnel it over to the first gray box to the right, which is the Tides Foundation. They've received $576 million. I can't read that. I know, that's why I'm reading it to you.

And then the taxpayer funds allegedly are zero, but they're just funneling money over. And when you get to the farthest box to the right, that's the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, EIN 311580204, gross receipts $83.6 million. That's how they do the washing machine, Dave. Box A to Box B to box C. And next thing you know, it's all laundered out. Where did that money come from? How dated is that information?

Does that go back to when they were in power? Or is this still happening? I don't know what date range he set for this query then. Because they have like $300 million on their books right now, not the $84 million. This is just during a pay period. That's how much flowed there. Wow. So that's just a temporally narrow slice. It could be. I don't know what date range he set on this query, but you can go in and set

any queries you want and find stuff. But the magic is it tracks from EIN1 to 2 to 3. It's just genius. It's just now we get to see it. It's written out and we have to ask a question. So when you go to the site, out and we have to ask a question. You don't have to be sort of it's almost AI level of simple. Yep. You enter an EIN number, you enter a date range and you say go. And it's just it's fabulous. It's really fabulous. Starting EIN number. How do you get the starting EIN number? That will take you a little spelunking. But when you if you go to the Fed database itself, they tell you every grant, the grant is associated

with an EIN, right? Right. So, so people, people start there. I'll give you one of my grants and see if I trace to the drug system somehow. your grants are all are all visible all of them are in here and this is creating a little bit of a so we have to be careful because a lot of people are digging in and it's it's there listen there are going to be some mistakes made collateral damage is going to be an operative term yes a lot of damage so we're moving at light speeds and we're going to make mistakes it It's just how it's going to be. And of course, the opposition will seize on those moving at the speed of science. How fast is that?

Bouchy fast. Hang on. So so this is great. I'm actually glad you were driving yesterday because because this will all be then super fun for you. This is this is fun. So let's take a look at this one real quick because Alex Jones reported on this one yesterday and it was just absolutely...

Speaking of guys whose stock has gone up over the last couple of years, holy moly. Well, his presentation style aside, he's been dead right about all kinds of stuff. Get this one. Get this one. Get this one. Can anyone explain why the Department of Defense provided $9.147 million to Reuters for, quote, active social engineering defense, large scale social deception, which goes by the wonderful acronym LSD? You know, they're not hiding it.

No. Nine million to Reuters. They were fact checking me. They were busy telling everybody that Biden was sharp as a tack. They got nine million dollars from the DOD for large scale social deception. That would be like if Dayzak had something that says, you know, G.O.F. to to kill off half the population. Right mean yeah we're not hiding it no isn't it i would expect it to be a word salad exactly no and and by the way most of them will be word salads

but again dave they got so cocky they didn't think they had to hide it like let's just put it out there maybe that's even part of the fun they have. Let's tell people what we're doing. So is this, in your opinion, bigger and more corrupt than your wildest imagination or just the transparency is way better than your wildest imagination? B, you know, I've smelled a rat for a long time. I mean, look, you look at Building 7 going down to free fall and you watch the NIST model, which shows it crumpling at not free fall. And you say, OK, there's that doesn't comport. It just doesn't fit. It's but we had to accept it as if it fitted. Right. But private knowledge, you and I could go, that's stupid. That doesn't work. They need to come up with a different model because their model doesn't comport with what we can see, but we were expecting. One can make the argument that nine 11 was, was that the person who teed that one up was doing it for America's best

interest because it got us into the middle East. And, you know, for example, you drop guys off on Omaha beach, you know, you're going to lose 20,000, but you gotta be able to make that call. So I'm steelmanning this, right? I don't believe this. But if you say, look, we've got to get to the Middle East, we're going to lose a bunch of people in this, but this is the only way we're going to get there.

The bombing in 93 didn't do it. So we're going to have to have our, our new Pearl Harbor as the documentary talking about it says, um, you can make the argument that the person who, who teed it up, that that was not grift and graft, but rather the brutality of geopolitics. But but but stealing 40 billion. Did that to me in some sense is is is almost more corrupt, even though, you know. Well, that's the tip of the iceberg. That is just that's right. That's right. In the last 24 hours, we found out that that Elon's team is now in NOAA taking a look at the climate grift, probably. The climate grift.

By the way, a friend of mine is coming out. I'll get you to interview him when the time comes. He's coming out with a book on the science. I think it might be the best book laying out the scientific basis of climate denial. It's a very, very factually driven book. He has it all out there in gory detail. He's weeks away from publishing this thing. Okay. He needs an editor. Do you know a good editor? He's going to pay. Let me let me think on that, because, yeah, because, by the way, let's while we're on this subject, let me start this one. You're going to love this, too. So hold on.

I'll start this over again real quick. So this is our brand new energy secretary, Chris Wright. And listen to this. This is unbelievable. The media, politicians, they've never bothered to learn anything about climate change. And they don't seem to appreciate at all that the cost and affordability of energy is simply intimate to human well-being. It always has, everywhere and always. So these two ignorances about the importance of energy and about real facts about climate change are driving just a massively destructive movement, not just destructive to the economic wellbeing of humans, but I speak in schools,

it's turning people away from science, and I mean science, this process of questioning and challenging, not the science, this sort of top-down, you know, mandates that justify what people want to do anyway. It has nothing to do with climate change. And how has it gone so far? So we're 20 years, $2 trillion of subsidies. In the year 2000, the world got 86% of its total primary energy from fossil fuels.

So last year, in 2020, that 86% plunged all the way down to 84%. Calling this an energy transition, and everyone in my industry does that. The investment banks, the companies, you're supposed to write an ESG report apologizing that you're in our industry and how you're going to get out someday and your energy transition strategy. Well, the low hanging fruit is the start. That's the electricity sector in rich countries. If 20 years and that much money drove us from 86 to 84. That's not an energy transition at all. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Just by chance, I gave my class on Wednesday a 10-minute pitch on climate change. And I got the end of it.

I could see the eye rolls. Look, I don't expect you to take what I say at face value because you've been brainwashed since daycare. But what I want you to do is next time you see an article questioning climate change is slow down. Right? Read it. Take it a little more seriously. And I told him, you know, the story where I asked AI, did you have enough catch? I did a debate on Zero Hedge with Steve Keen.

And I spent some time studying how Steve debates. And it turns out one thing you should never do is debate a guy with any kind of British accent. That's not a cool thing to do. So I paid attention to how he debates. And it turns out he really blew it. He opened telling me about the chemistry of the sun and how it does things to the atmosphere. He talks about exciting CO2 molecules and stuff. And I'm going, you're going to open with a tale of chemistry to a chemist? And then he started talking about how he knows scientists and this is how they work.

And I'm going, you're going to tell a scientist that you know scientists and this is how they work? And I let him go on with little interruption. And Bill Fleckenstein was the moderator and he kept trying to get him somewhere. But then at the last 15 minutes, I just did some body slams with what we call data, where I come from. And, you know, I did an AI study that was really entertaining. I said, give me 20 prominent scientists who don't believe climate change is a crisis. And it gave me 20, and I knew at least 18 of the 20, and they were the ones you'd expect, you know, Hapro and Koonin and these guys. And then I flipped the question just a little and

said, give me 10 prominent solar physicists who think climate change is a problem. And he came back and said, there are no definitive statements made by solar physicists about climate change being a problem. I'm going, well, what are the odds? The guys who actually understand where climate change is supposedly coming from don't buy the story. I said to the class at home, I said, that should give you pause that the guys who actually understand what heats the earth don't buy the model. And I could see a couple of kids in the class were lighting up.

I think they probably knew the story. I think that was the right way. That was the right way to do it. And I could see a couple of kids in the class were lighting up. I think they probably knew the story. I think that was the right way. That's the right way to do it. This is programming they've been subjected to. And so to deprogram. Yeah, it's detoxing. It's a slow process.

Well, it's asking the unanswerable questions, right? When somebody's in a cult, right? They've taken a vow of poverty. They've taken a vow of chastity. Then you just sidle up to him you say hey why is a guru driving off in rolls royce with your chick right this really is like pulling someone from a cult it really is like going down to jonestown and trying to get people to come back and well you ask the unanswerable questions right and curiosity that's the only way to do this gently question is is it just a grift or is it all is

it a grift plus authoritarianism technocracy you know you know the drill yeah why not both right right which is the more important do you think the grift could be they can get everyone to sign off on it by dumping huge money but this is is what someone wants to do. Like if I wanted to destroy the United States, you can't pull battleships up to the shore. You have to get us to eat ourselves. And so you bring in gender bending and climate change and COVID lockdowns and things like that. And this is classic, you know, Yuri Bezmenov, classic, you know, Edward Bernays, classic, classic strategy of, you know, Sun Tzu. Let's go all the way back to Sun Tzu and, you know, beat your enemy.

Let them let them destroy themselves. And and that's what it feels like is happening. Opening who would open the southern border? I don't I don't I can't imagine an argument for opening the southern border that's remotely valid i i the moral argument is just stupid there's just no moral argument there well let's see but this was never about moral arguments right and that's the part they don't have a leg to stand on that's what it's so incomprehensible to me that they that they have the audacity of doing it when when it be like carpet bombing you know a city and saying this was good this is what so dave this has been a

piece i've been on for a while it's around this idea that i think somebody has weaponized our communication call it social media call it whatever it is they weaponized it and it does real damage okay and i think these people need to be discovered. I think that we're going to go back to that Obama, you know, pulling out. I forget the name of the act, but he allowed propaganda to be waged on American citizens again, because why not? Right. And what could go wrong? What could go wrong is you find yourself. I'm sorry, we're going to have to pull this from YouTube now because I'm about to go into territory that I know they frown upon because they're still part of the evil dark empire. So, Nick, if you could go ahead and pull the YouTube, anybody who's on YouTube, you're going to have to come over and follow us.

You can follow us on X right there. Chris Martinson, Peak Fan Signal Hour, all that. Just put that in. Just wander over there. Go to peakprosperity.com. Find us there. And we're also live streaming to Rumble right now, which, of course, still and as always, supports us. Talk about things and endorse YouTube. Right. This is this.

This is YouTube should should in theory care about someone saying we have to go to Rumble from YouTube because you guys suck so bad um kind of funny that you know by the way if you do you know if brave blocks all the ads do you know if the person who's podcasting loses money by brave blocking the ads i don't know probably i don't know i don't know what i can tell you is when i do podcasts or when i listen to podcasts one of the things i do is I go, I take it. It'll show up on Firefox, which I use routinely. And if it's going to be an hour and a half interview of someone, I pop it over to Brave and all the commercials go away. The only ones that stay are the ones that are embedded in the podcast.

Right. But the pop-up ads go away completely. Yeah. So it makes it manageable because if you watch things like podcast with Mike Ferris, they're not watchable. They just started whittling that down. You know, I got slowly demonetized and, you know, it was because my head objectionable content, but they were still running the ads. I wasn't getting the money every quarter. Alphabet says, oh, look, our advertising revenues went up. That's because they're just squeezing and abusing their content creators. It's a bad business model. It really is to not be payable to you you was there any sort of like you didn't get this because or what you just no they don't explain themselves they don't care checks that didn't

listen the only the only thing that i have about youtube is of course they blocked talking about now that i trust we're off of youtube we can talk they blocked anything about the vaccines which aren't vaccines right we now know that those are genetic modifications right they came loaded with dna that got shot into cells like bullets into a body, did equivalent damage, and it led to cancer in some people. And of course, Susan Wojcicki, the CEO of YouTube, died of aggressive, some dare call it turbo small cell lung cancer, which is one of the ones that people seem to get a lot from that particular dynamic. My son's main squeegee has had a stroke and it could be. Sorry to hear that. But at 49 years old, you got to ask, right? You got to wonder. Well, there's a lot of that wondering. So that also is in danger of getting unmasked. Look at all the things that could get unmasked. You get RFK Jr. in and we finally get to see the CDC databases. We finally get to see the minutes of the meetings where the FDA vaccine advisory committee.

Remember, Bobby was all over the place. He said, listen, I got a transcript. I got I got a transcript from a meeting where they said, wow, this hep B is causing autism. How do we cover that up? And so imagine if he could get his hands on the source documents for that. And people find out that that was known that, I mean, this is, well, you want to talk about- I read the Pfizer papers, which I don't wish on anyone because it's not the most exciting reading. That was the Naomi Wolf project, right? It's a book called the Pfizer papers. Yeah. She called for people to read. So FOIA pulled the data out of the FDA, despite their best efforts to hide it for 75 years. And then

she put out a call for help, got 3,200 volunteers of doctors and scientists, had no idea what to do with them. But some woman said, I know how to handle this. Let me take it from here. And I can't remember her name. I should memorize it so that I give her credit. And then she organized this sort of cavalry to go after everything in. And then they wrote a bunch of reports. And then she organized this, this, this, you know, sort of cavalry to go after everything in. And then they wrote a bunch of reports and what's clear is, is that everything you and I know, they knew everything, everything. And I went back and look, I didn't write about the vaccine last year, not, not 2024, 2023. I had it, but I just said, I just don't want to do it again. I just,

it's just, you know, everyone's so tired of it, COVID fatigue. And, um, but I went back and went through my notes after writing about, I wrote about it again this year because of having read the Pfizer paper. So I'm saying, okay, I'm going to digest those for the viewing audience a little bit. And, um, and then I went back and looked at my notes and we had it all too. You know, I had all the, all the things they had started to leak out in various scientific papers that everyone always says peer reviewed. You know, I I've been an editor for 20 years. Peer reviewed means some guy spent an hour and a half sitting at his desk, reading it and saying, yeah, whatever.

And might have gotten paid. We found out that over a billion dollars went to peer reviewers in a two-year period. I never got paid as a peer reviewer. I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah. So the pharma's corrupt. I know that'll shock you, but pharma's corrupt. Where the corruption is, is in the clinical trials and in the off-label prescription. A couple other great books. Did you read Sickening? Did you read Follow the Science? Sickening is a very good book. He talks about all the ways they corrupt the clinical trials. And like a drug like Neurontin, which is used, it's billions of dollars a year,

demonstrably does nothing for neuropathic pain, nothing. And yet it's being prescribed for neuropathic pain to this day. Follow the Science was the highly credible Cheryl Atkinson's book, talking about 25 years of her following the biomedical community at CBS and how slowly but surely her confidence just rotted away as she wrote these stories. And she she dug into the vaccine there, too. But it was it was really just about just the corruption of pharma. So I think I think pharma picked the low-lying fruit. It was becoming relatively unprofitable. And so rather than shrinking their footprint, they turned to corruption. Yeah.

Well, you know, I worked at Pfizer from 1998 to 2001 in Groton. I was in corporate finance, freshly minted MBA. Didn't know what the world was about back then. Yeah, because I used to consult in the Groton site. I think it was about then. Yeah, I think it was about then. Yeah. Okay, well, maybe we bumped into each other.

I don't remember. We know. But, you know, even back then, right, they were starting to do this drug discovery that was billions, if not trillions of dollars, you could see. And they were going after smaller and smaller orphan drugs. So you could just see the whole business model dying because the low hanging fruit was all gone. And they didn't know what to do, except they would get these little orphan things. And they were doing these huge multi well plate, like, you know, just shotgun approaches to binding assays and got it out very expensive. And the whole thing was just withering. And I looked at

the industry. I'm like, wow, this is no good. Now, of course, I didn't realize they were going to find a way to mass inject people with a lethal, you know, a deadly or disease causing compound and then sell them solutions to all that. That is the business model that we can't talk about. I know. I know. So they're going to they're now selling myocarditis treatments. Pfizer and Pfizer paid overpaid for a cancer company, right? Exactly. I was on a Zoom call with them. It was after the formal Zoom call was over, and Ryan Cole was, a couple of us were chatting. And he's vaccine injured.

Did you know that? I probably did tell you that. He's vaccinated. Yeah, I heard that from him. Yeah. And I asked him, this that. He's vaccinated. Yeah, I heard that from him. Yeah. And I asked him, this was probably three years ago. I said, did the vaccine get in our DNA? And he said, I said, what is the odds it got into our DNA? And he said, 100%. I said, is that an error bar? He said, no, not really. Now you got Kevin McKernan, I think, who has now sequenced the tumors, I think.

They have. To great surprise, and Kevin's a super careful scientist. I reached out to him and he said yes, but we're quadruple checking it right now. Exactly. I haven't followed up. That was probably a month and a half ago. But they're finding the vaccine sequence in the tumors. And some other interesting plasmids that they

hadn't expected. So that's where good science comes in. You go where the data goes. What else they find in there? What kind of plasmids? Anything that has meaning or just random? Yeah, the meaning is that at a minimum, it looks like Pfizer did not disclose that it was using different sort of techniques. And of course, contamination of the vaccine is that my sense is that's not relevant because it's not the DNA that incorporates into the DNA. It's the RNA. No, no, no, no.

You got that. You got that wrong. The problem is, is that linear. So so the plasmids, a circular piece of DNA. Right. And that allegedly is only supposed to be relevant to bacteria, but the problem is that it came out, you know, like, I did a lot of cell biology research.

So you have a cell. It's got a membrane. And in the case of a bacteria, it only has that membrane because the nucleus is just sort of in the cytoplasm. All right. You want the stuff in there that you've told the bacteria to make you you lyse it mean l-y-s-e you break it and now you have this soup you got ribosomes and proteins and membranes and dna and and the m-r-n-a that you were looking for right

or the plasmids in this case and then you have to try and extract those two things from each other well if you know anything about extraction it's's a messy process, particularly when you have a whole cell lysate. It's just a garbage of... You're using factorial numbers at this point, right? It's some big number factorial. Right. So I can show you studies, science out of the NIH that shows that if you have linearized fragments of DNA, Those will be incorporated at ridiculous rates into the nucleus. Does it get converted to RNA then gets incorporated? No, the problem is that DNA gets inserted, right? It gets inserted into the genome. But if it does it randomly and it gets inserted into the P53 gene segment, you now lost your P53 function. Your tumor suppressor is now turned off. Voila, you now have a replicable germline cancer cell.

Was that intentional in your opinion? Could that have happened randomly or is there no way to know? So the reason I go to intention and the reason we're off of YouTube now is this. Look, for whatever reason, every single drug manufacturer decided to go with the full-length spike protein, which we now all know, all on its own, leaving aside the DNA components, is toxic. Right.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they all went for the whole thing. Why 1,269 amino acids? That's a monster protein. Why not use a fragment, which is what we always do in vaccine development. Use a fragment. Right. They went everybody, whether it was the adenovirus, the J&J. Right. Or it was Moderna or was Pfizer. OK, so so then you see that, like, all of a sudden the FDA finds religion and says, oh, there were eight women who died from the J&J. Pull it. right? Meanwhile, gobs of people are having trouble with the Pfizer and the Moderna one. And you know, the one they really steered everybody hardest to was Pfizer. Right. Now, here's the problem. Moderna and Pfizer use different manufacturing

processes. Only Pfizer had the DNA contamination. And for whatever reason, our system said that one. We like that one. Well, what's also true is I think the DNA contamination showed up in the so-called new and improved preparation that occurred post-trial or mid-trial and got no clinical trial. So I think they jammed it in a couple of rats and said yeah you know process one process two process one was lovingly handmade individually tailored mrna strings in a small refractory column with the white gloved hands you know on it the other one was made in vats of bacteria with dna totally different process that clicked so quickly as soon as he said i go oh my god he was talking about the the vats and how you know what what i remember from my 50 year old genetics major which as you know is out of date now

is that is that dna is ultra sensitive to mechanochemistry, which is sheer forces. Organic molecules don't break by stirring. You can't take a molecule and chop it with a wearing blender, but RNA, DNA, you can chop them right up. And then it all of a sudden clicked that they've got this problem of creating a mega batch of vaccine. It's basically an oil and vinegar salad dressing with the gooey stuff at the top and the the vinegar at the bottom or saline and you know nanoparticle and you got to mix them but you can't you can't do it aggressively and so if you got your vaccine

from the top you got a lot of that gooey that you didn't want you got your stuff from the top, you got a lot of that gooey shit that you didn't want. You got your stuff from the bottom, you got saline. Mm-hmm. Yep. And that's even leaving aside the possibility that somebody excitedly started running dose-ranging experiments, and there was supposed to be 30 micrograms of mRNA per Pfizer dose.

But what if they decided to see what 3,000 did or 30,000? The other thought I had is they might've even in advance thought, look, the best way to get a real response is to intentionally incorporate it into the DNA so that you really produce it. You're not just, uh,

you produce it long after your mRNA is gone, which is quite well, apparently, but, um, yeah, the Pfizer papers are unbelievable. And there was this one catchphrase. is gone, which is quite a while apparently. The Pfizer papers are unbelievable. There was this one catchphrase that kept showing

up over and over, and I go, you sly bastards. They kept saying they'd report a bunch of shit, and then they'd conclude there's no new safety issues. I realized they were saying that because it sounds good, and it's factually true if those safety issues are already known.

And so it was it was this very tranquil sounding statement. No new safety issues. Yeah. Their balls fell off, too. Yeah. Well, one of my one of my more damaging YouTube strikes because it came out of the blue was when I reported that I'd started stumbling across all of these Facebook sites and other places where women were self-reporting that they were having menstrual irregularities post post jab. Oh, the Pfizer paper hits that hard. Yeah. And and so I went back and I looked at the 90 days post-marketing surveillance thing, which did report twelve hundred and twenty six deaths, but they didn't report a single menstrual irregularity. They said nothing like there was, there was no reporting. And of course, by definition, if you cause a woman to

bleed irregularly, you are by definition impacting fertility and they needed to run with that. There are no, no, you know, this is safe. By definition, they had to cancel the vaccine. They had to, you know, they were supposed to study shit that they absolutely didn't study. I remember years ago where someone wanted to write some puff piece about menstrual problems, and he put out a survey, said, I'd like people to reach out to me and, you know, tell me, tell me what you observed. And I guess I'm like 150,000 responses. So I wrote an article about, look, we expected to get a couple hundred. Right. And so there's this really million dollar question is whether we also have sterilized a generation of young women.

Not perfectly because I'm told they're still getting knocked up. But, you know, it's a term. I think it's my term. It's anthropogenic epigenetics. Spell that out for us. Well, so epigenetics is post-insemination, post-germ cell merging, mitosis, meiosis. And so the belief was that once your DNA was sort of determined by fertilizing the egg, that's over, right? And then they started to notice things that seemed to require that not just that the phenotype was changing, but somehow the body was changing the DNA. And so you could have an egg in the human or a sperm in the woman or a sperm cell in the male that started life with a certain set of sequences and modified it. There's a review written that I read that was tedious pretty recently because I've gotten my biochemistry buddies to pay attention to it for me.

But methylating adenosine, I think, is one of the ways that you modify the DNA. And then that triggers some in the transcription event. That is epigenetics. Meth methylation is a strong part of that epigenetic process yeah and so anthropogenic epigenetics is where it's human induced epigenetics so somebody was messing around with our with our our dna now get this so if if you did if anybody didn't like that you're gonna hate this part so they started trialing it in Japan, and they just approved trials here for self-replicating mRNA vaccines. Oh, this is, they have aerosols. Oh, my God.

This is the worst thing I've ever heard of. Mosquitoes that create wholesale sterilization of the entire species. Yeah. I did the math on the way you prove sterile females or something. I go, my math tells me they will go extinct. And sometimes it's not a big deal. There's 3,200 breeds of mosquitoes, and this one's invasive. Anyways, I go, Mother Nature is a way of making you pay for that kind of arrogance.

Yep, yep, yep yep yep yep well isn't it it's almost like tower of babel stuff right where you know people decided they wanted to be god and so they built a big tower and god said no and split them under on my pleadings to be treated like a god-like figure they just keep shitting on me and but now we have this this so-called you've heard nova you know the wef guy which by the way usaid gave 56 million of our dollars to the wef i don't know to to for more hookers and blow in davos we don't know right we'll see what those grants were actually given for but but no hundred dollars a pop for those hookers, by the way. Yes. Fifty six million. That's like, yeah, covers the whole whole weekend.

So that's a Biden month right there. I'm so glad you're off YouTube. Here we go. All right. Bring it. So but this self-replicating mRNA vaccine. So people who don't know about this vaccine, I can't even use the term. That's not what it is. What they've done is they've taken the mRNA and they've attached to it a signal instruction that builds a protein that builds more of that exact thing. And nobody's been able to solve this for me, Dave. A, why would you approve something like this? B, what problem is it solving? What, like, why would you, what problem? other thing, though, is that there's there's scientific ethic issues. And the problem is scientists will try shit just because it's cool. Like, for example, remember, cold fusion.

Well, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Right. So it turns out there was a guy at Cornell who decided he was in communications. He decided to archive the cold fusion story as it emerged so he he tracked it i brought him in for a seminar actually to talk about it and stuff but one of the things that happened during cold fusion story was that 150 labs around the country around the world would ever tried to replicate it and they couldn't but but let's say they had created cold fusion. Should you be doing that in a standard chemistry lab at Caltech? And I don't think so.

You know, you don't want guys doing fusion in your labs. And so scientists sort of will not always think through the implications of what they're doing. I did notice right before the inauguration, they pulled everything from days act. Did you notice that? Days that got, got, got defanged. Well, and this is important too, right? So, so remember Senator Rand, Anthony Fauci, he's going back and forth saying gain of function. And Fauci goes, Senator, you don't understand. It wasn't gain of function,

but even if it was, we only 300,000 is all that came from NAAD. Technically accurate. Now we find out that 40 million came from USAID, more money from the state department, more money from DOD, dig it through almost $200 million to Peter Daszak. That's enough to do gain of function with. That's plenty. So, David Martin, it's hard to know where he traces back to because he ends up going further and further back. When do you think the vaccine and the virus were actually the one that we first witnessed?

How far back was it created, in your opinion? What's your best guess? Well, it escaped in 2019 or was released. When did they create it? what's your best guess what um well it escaped in 2019 or was released they create it what's your thought because martin tracks it way back years before that via patents well so that specific specific one depends you know how many amino acid changes before you say it's a different thing right um but we know that there was a 2015 paper with barrick and she ralph barrick out of unc and she the bat lady that talked about this Chimera clone that was startlingly close with the bat lady and bad person. I'm pretty sure Barak must be. But it was terrible. He's awful. Yeah.

Was the bat lady a bad person? You know, I kind of I kind of to me, are all like the jurassic park uh scientists right they may not be bad people but they really should think through what they're doing more carefully like they're like unsupervised toddlers in a china shop there are some bad people like i think um i think i think dazak is a bad person oh yeah yeah i don't think he didn't just think it through i think he's bad. had a list of like like there's like what's that 10 point list that you wrote up in the year in review this helps this is very helpful that was not it was a hierarchy of guilt i think yeah not it's not a good person bad person light switch black and white 10 levels right so you start out with the guy who took the vaccine gave the vaccine thinking everything was fine there's no guilt

there there would be guilt in their heads because they might have said, look, we should all take the vaccine. And then they had an injury in the family. So the guy's going to carry that. That is going to, he's going to feel guilty, but he shouldn't be, he's not guilty. Right. And it gets a little vague. You get, you know, you go to the guys who, like me, who had a hunch that it was not good. And I waited and watched and I had to choose between my job and the vaccine. And I kept replaying this tape in my head where, so I say, okay, I'm not getting vaccinated. Take the high road, quit my job. And you can say, well, you could have fought it, but I've had trouble at Cornell with some of the lefties and they might've said, oh, we've got him

now. Right. I really could have been, they, it wasn't going to, it might've been, oh, we, he just took the bait. So I said, look, I could picture five years from now, my wife saying, you know, you know, we should pay for the grandchildren's college education. He's saying, well, since I had to quit my job five years ago, I think we had a hold back on that. And, and then in the context of finding out that the vaccine saved the world and I don't want to be there. So I took it. I'm guilty of not taking the highest road, but it would have been a great cost on a hunch.

So you get the same group in the medical side. You get the same thing on the medical side where a doc's saying, I'm not totally comfortable with this vaccine, but they even mutter that they lose their job. The guys I don't put as high up the hierarchy of guilt as you might think are the bioweapons guys, because if the defense agency says, look, we got to study bioweapons, then the guys in those labs got to study them. And so they might maybe they shouldn't do it, but they're in these top quality labs and stuff and they're supposed to be able to contain it. The ones who I really detested were the sanctimony industrial complex crowd who who were just militant. Yeah, those guys can really eat shit and die. And they're not even that guilty. They're just they were just militant. Those guys can really eat shit and die.

And they're not even that guilty. They were just so annoying. And then you get up to the Fauci's and stuff. But guys like Hotez and who's that guy? Offit. Now, here's the funny thing is I've never attacked any of these guys in public. I've never attacked the climate change guys in public, not directly. I'm blocked all of them.

Somehow I got put on a block this bastard list. So Michael Mann, and Offit, and Hotez, and Dayzak, they've all blocked me on Twitter. And so it's kind of funny. They have some hit list to try to shut down the guys who are trying to get through. Well, I called all those virologists, you know, and include Hotez and that and the vaccine pushers, all that. I call them the mean girls club. And it's funny, I got blocked, too, instantly. Right. Of course. But I understand them blocking you. I'm less of a player.

Yeah, but but that's okay because i have multiple sock puppet accounts right and so i could go in and i could still see them in their little dwindling echo chamber just self-reinforcing their worldview with each other without allowing any outside dissident voices to challenge them they were pretty certain they were in the right it was just it's gross well guys like anderson and stuff who knowingly lied their asses off about the origin. And those early letters where Fauci said, shut the fuck up. Don't ever say that in public again. And then they wrote a letter talking about how absurd the lab leak theory was.

Those guys should all be stripped of all, minimally stripped of all their federal funding never to see the light of day again. And they probably won't be. But Dayzak just got his bars ripped off his uniform. He just lost all his money before Trump took office. That's great. That's great. But so, Dave, here's an important question. What happens when I'm going to share a screen in just a second? What happens when this data finally comes out, right? Hell hath no fury like a mama bear right this is a chart put up by chief nerd everybody should follow at the chief nerd on x this is

autism spectrum disorder rates by country with red being hot and blue light blue being the coldest what do you notice uh it's a little red over on this side of the world yeah shouldn't somebody have been curious about that who was in an official capacity who was charged with something like public health i don't know rochelle walensky me i i i had bought the autism narrative because i thought that autism was about, you know, slow development that just never seemed to pick up speed and that parents were realizing their kids weren't heading to Harvard. And, and then they were looking for an explanation for why they put out a kid who was not fully functional. What I didn't know until I watched the documentary Vaxxed was that the kid gets the jab, gets sicker and shit that night and is gone the next day. Now, reminds me of the ivermectin story where you see that.

Yes. Well, you see that four or five times. You go, I don't need a double blind study. There's something fucked up there. Right. And some like Pierre Corey said, look, we gave ivermectin to four or five patients. They want to go home the next day. Right. And then someone like Pierre Corey said, look, we gave ivermectin to four or five patients. They want to go home the next day. Right. And he said, I don't need a further study. It's working. And and so so. And so they I don't know, lost my train of thought.

But well, I'll tell you about that particular subject, which is near and dear to my heart, because, of course, you know, I've been very close with the whole ivermectin story and all the dissident doctors and all of that. I have in still stored away because I would get emails during the height of COVID, right? Like, oh, Chris, I think I've come down with it. Oh, no, my mom has it and she's got comorbidities. What do I do? And I would talk people through and I got so good at it, Dave. Here's my here's my spiel. I said, here's what you're going to do. You're going to give this many milligrams per kilogram of ivermectin. You're going to give it over, you know, morning, night with food to get better bioavailability. And in 24 hours to 48 hours, you're going to email me and say false

alarm. I guess it was nothing because that's what happened. Well, so I had a head cold. I still have a little bit of one, but about four or five days ago. It was bad enough where it invaded my dreams. You know the kind where it's bad. So I took 40 milligrams of ivermectin. About three hours later, I felt pretty good. So I love that. The only thing I don't use ivermectin for right now is taking is shining the chrome on my bumper, but I'm not it might it might work for that.

It does. So, Dave, one of the most wow. Consider this, too. He's watched like William Mackis, Dr. Mackis, and and I have personal experience with people. And I also know doctors who are running this now, again, informally, because it hasn't been studied, but ivermectin plus fenbendazole to treat cancer has one of the most astonishing positive signals you could imagine. And when we dig into the story, we find out that those signals first appeared in the 90s, and the FDA buried them. Now, what kind of righteous indignation should we, infuriation should come when we find out that there were people who said, you know what, it would be a little bit better for my pocketbook if this was hidden. Well, I had my chat with my liberal friend who, to his credit, can sit there with me for hours at a time.

He's super lofty. I mean, long hair, ran a bookstore, you know, sort of guy. But he stays in the game and we chat and we try to find common ground and stuff like that. I always end up with the give me a Louisville slugger, I'll smash his head like a cantaloupe. And he always goes the passive route. I said, well, these are mass murderers, right? And so I said, so, you know, I'm happy to try them. The highest standards of the law in front of a jury of not their peers because they're peerless in their own sick way. And if convicted, then take a Louisville slugger, smash their head like a cantaloupe. Right. A fair trial. A fair trial.

Yeah. And then, yeah, yeah, hang and judge. But, I mean, consider that, though. I mean, look at that chart right there. It's absolutely astonishing to me, right? Some of that is better diagnosis. There is some reason to make that argument, but it didn't go from 40,000 to 133,000. Right? So when I watch facts, then a friend of mine, a guy who actually sold us one of our dogs, his son was adult autistic. And and then he made some reference to the vaccine quickly.

I intercepted that and I said, OK, OK, tell me about it. He said, well, he got the and this guy had an animal science degree from Wisconsin. So I don't know what that really means, but it meant he wasn't completely ignorant of shit yeah and yeah my son got the vaccine was sickered and shit that night spiking fever rash the next day it was gone he was just gone and the the doctors always say you know the the parents didn't see the symptoms i go you know i've raised kids you know every inch of that kid, right? And if you've ever seen an 18-month-old kid, which is the peak period to not get that goddamn vaccine, that's where the real risk is, right? The name of the guy who got lost his license for doing,

what's his name? Wakefield. Wakefield, yeah, Andrew Wakefield. He pointed that out. He said, there's this window in time and development where the vaccine really wreaks the most damage. So you could even say, look, if you just avoid that window, you'll save a lot of pain and suffering. And he lost my train of thought again. I still have a head cold, so I'm struggling with that. So in any event, so I watched Vax 2, and that one was about the COVID vaccine. Vaccine, Vax 3, I think is coming out. But at some point, we're going to find out that the

vaccines are causing. I started reading about vaccines about 20 years ago. And there's this one book, I wish I could remember the title, that was very unbiased. And it just talked about the horrors of trying to create vaccines and how hard they are and how the military has a whole ton and they can't give them to their troops because it kills them. I saw an interesting thing. There's a woman who gives a TED talk. I can send it to you if you want. And she talks about vaccinating kids in Africa for polio. Actually, a polio story emerging now, too.

Oh, yeah. But she said she's vaccinating people for polio. In this TED talk, she said, look, there's two kinds. There's the attenuated live virus and the dead virus. And she said, you can tell which one you got because it was either one dose, attenuated live virus, or two doses, the dead virus. And she said, you can tell which one you got because it was either one dose attenuated live virus or two doses, the dead virus. And she said, the attenuated live virus has something special with the immune system because their all cause mortality was way better. And I kept thinking, why would a polio vaccine make someone's immune system,

why would it be that curative in some way? And she says, they're not dying of polio. I mean, they're not dying of other things, though. And then we're in the middle of COVID, and I'll say, oh, you moron. The dead vaccine was hurting their immune system. She had causality backwards. So the live virus was giving her normal immune response and the dead vaccine was destroying her immune system.

Some IgG4 thing or something, right? Yep. Yep. Turns out it's a very complicated thing. So what's interesting is that the people who are like hysterically doing sort of the pro- pro vaccine dance, right? They are.

They're a cult. They're a religion. You find them shrieking your heretical things at you because you try and get data. They can't have a database conversation. I haven't I have yet to find a single person who's willing to logically and scientifically debate the data. They just immediately default to emotional to rates. Do you think that the population has become increasingly aware that they got duped in the COVID story though?

Well, I, I, I think they have, right. Obviously the uptake rates for this are very, very poor now for the boosters. People don't want them. Right. That's what Harrison said, by the way. He says, look, just look at the data. They're not vaccinating their kids. Well, of interest, USAID's number two recipient last year was Pfizer with $4 billion because nobody wanted their junk in this country. So they were buying it and shipping it to other countries for humanitarian purposes. Right. Well, maybe we can inject this into poor people's arms or something because they needed some help.

It's stunning. It's stunning. But, you know, I think we're going to get to, you know, this whole idea that maybe there's something really wrong. And that chart I showed that showed the United States and Canada bright red on the autism thing. Okay, let's take it down one, not one shade because of different diagnosis levels. Fine. But beyond that, that's an epidemiological disaster. Same as looking at, say, the... Can you overlay that with a chart of MMR vaccines? Is there a way to correlate that? I don't know. That would be great. You know, we've been missing that data the whole time. You know, the one data set we really, really, really, really, really want? We want people's

vaccination status with their hospital and death records. If we could merge those, now we can tell what's going on. I guarantee you the CDC has had that data. I guarantee you. And they've been hiding it the whole time. I haven't seen much of this. There could be a lot more. There's a woman who did a podcast. She was invited to do one. And I don't, one of the things that made me nervous about the COVID story was you always saw the same faces. To your credit, don't one of the things that made me nervous about the covid story was you always saw the same faces to your credit you are one of them cole yeaton right you name it mccullough malone and it it's it's troubling when i when it doesn't go outside that group and i know how the dynamics of the internet works and stuff like that but but it's one of these, God, you know, I'm getting all this information.

I'm getting keeps funneling through the same guys. That is a risky situation in terms of information flow. But, but, but God, I keep drifting today. And. Fuck. Fuck. and fuck fuck I didn't sleep well last night I know Dave and we all thank you for even being able to show up here

today that's totally fine hey so this is just crazy you know I'm very concerned the polio story let me get to that one the polio story are you picking up this story about how it correlates with the pesticides yeah because i read um uh the moth in the iron lung by forrest meridi he just nails that someone else didn't like that

book and so i i found it interesting that it's not a% conversion thinking, but I got to read it. But for the person who's not up to speed, the story is that polio was first detected in 1797. And there was no evidence of paralysis until the very late 19th century. And they even did studies of tribes in Africa that was 100% polio positive. And they had no history of paralysis of any kind. And polio was 97% symptom free. Anyways, but the paralysis showed up in the late 19th century and they started dumping arsenic and shit into the pesticides. Yep. Arsenic was a big one. And, and, and not only was temporally connected with that, but geographically where you can actually see where they first started

using the pesticides and where the paralysis started. One thing you and I both remember vividly, I'm sure as kids, even though a kid feels immortal, seeing those pictures in life magazine of the kids in the iron lung was horrifying you know that it's like holy shit there's still people in those iron lungs i just heard a story on this there's still a dozen guys in those iron lungs yep i think they'd have a better way to do it yep yep um so hang on one second so let me just because I want to I want to I want to reinforce what you're saying here. Let me see if I was at this one, this one, this one. All right. So this was the vote for RFK and all the Democrats said no. Right. And my my stick, we bring me up to speed. Did he get confirmed? Confirmed?

Well, he got out of the Senate Finance Committee. and so now it goes to the floor vote, right? So it'll be a slugfest. Ron Wyden is saying, I'll do everything in my power to stop him, and Liz Warren is going crazy. I will never forget, as I wrote here, every single Democrat voted against this. I'll never forget this, Not even for a second. So but let me go down here for a second, because some of the comments under here were pretty extraordinary. And we see these people who are sort of on the back side of things. I saw you go by. Well, this is a this is a really important battle for me. Let me see if I can find this. So, you know, this person is like saying, I remember every Republican voted for this when the S hits the fan.

I'm like, I know. Right. People losing weight, preventable diseases plummeting. That's great. Right. And then and then this guy said, well, what about polio? OK, this is what I want to pull up. Vaccine came at the very end. Yeah. This yellow part is the is the when all those iron lungs were happening. But the vaccine came in way at the tail end of that. So the yellow part, there was no vaccine. That's 1945-ish on through about 1960. And the reason that is, is because that's when we got all fancy. We discovered, you know, because of nerve gas research in World War II, we discovered organophosphate phosphatides.

We started spraying them all over the place. So why would something like an arsenic compound and an organophosphate, why would they have the same effect? What's the common denominator of those two? So your CNS is a highly protected environment, right? So there's crossing that blood. The blood brain barrier is tricky to cross right and so it keeps a lot of things out of there including in this case the the hypothesis would be that you give these organophosphate pesticides or you give arsenic and somehow they weaken that blood-brain barrier and now viruses that are normally excluded enter and they cause damage when they get in there no question about it

okay that's the idea it's a permeability thing. Point to where the vaccine started. I don't know if it shows up on here, but I don't know if I have a pointer on here. Can you see this at all? I don't know what I'm assuming. Yeah. So the vaccine started right off that last. My son's now watching this. He's watching. Yeah. The vaccine started right here. It was 1956 was the first part of the vaccine right there. Yeah. So, you know, to the credit of the vaccine, there's been really no polio since. So one could make the argument is still a good vaccine. But but to to what it doesn't get credit for is stopping that particular pandemic and the paralysis question. Well, let me also clear. We also started to get EPA rules where this is a silent spring right here in the early 60s. So we also stopped spraying ourselves with lots and lots of toxins and feeding them to ourselves.

So that that also was true. And this is a typical thing you see in almost all disease. Things are like, look, because of vaccines, we no longer have measles deaths. And it's like, well, actually, they were falling due to reasons of sanitation and better medical care. It's a multifactorial thing. But this is what the pro-vax crowd, as I always wanted to say, is it's binary. It's like either you have vaccines or you have disease and death. It's like, no, no, no. We also have better nutrition, medicine, sanitation.

Those are also factors. And I'm not saying they're unimportant, but this holy grail ascribing the only reason we're not dying at age 12 these days is because of vaccines is false. Right. It's not true. Right. Yeah. In fact, the first sulfa drug showed up, I think, around 1932, 35, somewhere in there. And penicillin was also 40s right so first tried on the battlefields of uh world war ii and they said observationally wow

look these people aren't dying of gangrene well let's keep doing that uh they didn't have a fauci-led randomized controlled trial uh dave i like to ask, figure that out. If DDT was killing all the raptors today, would we ever figure that out? The answer is no, because we would hang every last dead raptor on climate change. Yep. Yep. And we wouldn't fund certain scientists. And we are experiencing that, Dave. Right now, neonicotinoid pesticides are a biological disaster of unprecedented proportions. And we just can't seem to do anything about them. And they're just out there. And Syngenta makes money at it.

And so we have them. It's wiping out insects, all insects, which is wiping out birds. Fantasize a little bit about the plot line we're going to see going forward on ozempic and its buddies guess what we're going to find out that interfering with a hormone regulation system has downstream effects that we didn't consider boy you're really going out on a limb there and it's going to be bad it's going to be a lot worse and there's going to be a lot of regret and they're going to try and cover it up and all that stuff. Same stuff.

The people who go on Ozempic look like shit. Yeah, they call it the Ozempic mask. They look like they've – yeah, they look like they just came out of a camp. Exactly. Not a good one. And then in my year in review, as you recall, I showed an empty, scraggly-looking wallet. I called it an Ozempic wallet because it's expensive. But it has all sorts of muscle dystrophy and stuff too.

So, you know, you don't go in and tell the digestive system to stop working. And then the other thing is, you know, this is what the pharma guys do all the time is they get an indicator of heart attack, like high cholesterol correlates with heart attack. They reduce the cholesterol forcibly, but they don't actually show whether the forcibly lower cholesterol prevents heart attack. They just say, well, therefore, you don't have high cholesterol, so it must be good news, right? Yeah, no. You know what what we're literally in the dark ages of this stuff right now it was so stupid for doctors to say hey people are getting fat i know let's cut fat out of the diet like that was not the mechanism right it was more it's just not even where the fat you have comes from biochemically

it was so stupid but anyway the ozempic thing is really going to be amazing. Now, to any budding scientists who are listening to this, if you're looking for big, grand directions to go, I got to figure the human biome is really the place to plant a flag. I think you could potentially, with the technology improving as fast as you can, potentially do a sequencing of all the organisms in the human biome in one shot. Right? And there's something like 5,000 different. And people do that, right? Sabine Hazan, the doctor, she does that.

They sequence your biome and look for ratios biome the whole thing they have the most complicated oh you've ever seen a guy say that no they didn't have the tech to do that yet uh this is pretty pretty comprehensive stuff um dave uh we're getting a request too so, what else is going on in the news cycle? Can I switch gears with you real quick? Yeah, you got to put me on a leash and put a helmet on me I'm like the kid tied to the jungle gym Yeah, so I got to talk about this

we're going to totally shift gears because guess what people I actually think that one of the so we're talking about unveiling and revealing and that's what an apocalypse is it's an unveiling, right? And so we're getting this apocalypse of information, scams on top of scams on top of scams. I can't think of anybody better than Dave to talk about the scam of the Federal Reserve. Look,

Dave, everybody's known, right? You can go to Ray Dalio. He'll produce a chart that says, wow, United States has IOUs, financial IOUs and debt that are 1200% of GDP. And everybody who's can do grade school math says, yeah, that doesn't pencil out. That's going to break someday. So it's a question of when, not if. Yeah. All right. Well, I got to talk about this with you now. Gold is breaking. Oh, yeah. Breaking. Right. So what do we know? We know that 500 tons of gold that we know about got shipped out of London, came into the United States. This is seismic. We've never seen anything like it. And what we're looking at now, no, it's well, I mean, if you can believe vault records, it's it went to comics. Comics went from about a little over 500 tons to over 1000 tons, which is more than Switzerland has officially is now inside the vaults. Did you notice that happened? I can't see the end. Did you notice there was a huge gold shift

right when we did the lockdown too? Well, Well, the big shift of prices started February of 2022 when they froze Russia's sovereign reserves. Probably one of the dumbest things ever done, ever, international finance-wise, right? But now we're looking at potentially, so what we're looking at here, this chart, seeing that big spike that's circled in red there, that's the lease rate for gold. It's never been this alarming and it's just off the chart. So that what that simple explanation, people are demanding physical gold, physical gold. They want it in their hot little hands. And it's just crazy how high that demand is dave this is consistent with i'm not saying this is what's happening but this is consistent with very well-heeled big players saying oh my god i don't trust the system i don't even trust that i'm gonna have money in jp morgan i want tier one basel three accord financial monetary asset i want gold and i want it in my hot little hands. I don't even want it in Comex.

Every single day in January, huge redemptions. Why didn't you do it in 07? What's that? I mean, 07 was a good run on gold, but I don't remember this happening in 07. And there was an indicator. Remember the big indicator in 07 before the market collapsed at all and showed any sign of fragility? The market ABX index started tanking. And that woman named Tanta Doris Dungy was posting about it on one of the websites saying you can't imagine the chaos underneath the surface.

The market ABX derivatives index started tanking below par. And the only guys who seemed to be paying attention were, you know, a handful of bloggers. But I remember watching that going down going, boy, these guys seem to think this is an important indicator. And they were right. Yeah. Well, you see here, this this rise right here, I don't know if my my thing is showing you, but this is coming into the banking crisis of 2022. Right. So people suddenly wanted wanted gold again. And then, of course, that fell off when the Fed managed to sort of like buy, bail everybody out and all that stuff.

So fine. How much did they spend? Way beyond that. How much did they spend? They really kept quiet, best I can tell, how much that bailout of those three or four banks really cost. Was it, you know $5 trillion or something? It was a lot. It wasn't that much.

It was quite a lot, but notably they broke the FDIC $250,000 limit and made everybody whole, right? Because I guess they were well-connected people. They weren't farmers in Iowa. Sorry. Yeah, sorry. You lose, but when it's hedgies

and tech bros out of San Francisco, of course, they get bailed out and that'll get hopefully we can get we can peer into that. But this tells me if something is breaking in the system and the concern I have is you could look at this and say, wow, big participants are scared that the banking system itself is at risk here or a financial institution or the financial system. And it's something about Europe to the U.S. And my hope is that years of gold shenanigans where the bullion banks have been playing games and they started GLD and they're hypothecating, rehypothecating and leasing and borrowing and shuffling it around and pretending like everybody has ownership when actually maybe nobody does. I worry that that's going to violently unwind here i think that's what we're looking at here is the possibility so um so i've been watching this but in the 25 years that you and i have

owned gold i'm guessing you probably bought it about the same time I did. Yep. My cost basis was, in theory, it starts at $270. The silver was in the high $3. But since I was buying Central Fund of Canada, which was selling something like 20% below NAV, my cost basis was more like $200. I mean, it was really a ridiculous thing. And you once said this, and it was so funny. You said, you know, people say to you, well, it was easy to buy gold back then because it was so cheap. Whenever people say that, I go, that's because there were only five of us who wanted it. Yeah. I said, you know, it's always cheap when you have to be completely psychotic to be the one guy who wants to buy it.

But I remember the bottom vividly. And then I've been hearing stories for 25 years talking about how Comix is going to default Comix. And so I've learned not to jump at that bait fast. Okay, okay, okay but and i see your argument i'm not saying this what the hell is that that's silver lease rates oh my god so so here to give me give me it's the paper physical dichotomy yep why is the price it's exploding one month lease rates like if you want your hands on silver and by the way it's in huge Yep. Why is the price? It's exploding. One month lease rates.

Like if you want your hands on silver, and by the way, it's in huge backwardation. There's two states for these things, contango and backwardation. That means silver is really expensive today. That tells us there's a shortage. Huge shortage in this right now. Huge. So this is going to be a, there's going to be presumably therefore a default in also the ETFs that pretend to own these things, correct? Yes, and here's how it's going to play out. This is the before and after story.

So what's going to happen is we're all going to go to sleep, and silver is $33 an ounce, and it went down 50 cents yesterday, and gold is $28.70, and it went down $20 yesterday. And then when you wake up on Monday, you can't get any. It's over. And then the price is just a meaningless thing at that point. It's a meaningless number. Now, I'll tell you what's going up and I have both eyes on it. And I now know smart

people who are serious about it. And that is Platinum. Platinum has been dead money for 10 years move up and try to platinum let me let me give me a second i'll get it up here that's what you're going but i'm still disbelieving um keep going i'll get you there how far back do you want to go? Back as far as you can, because you'll see it better the further back you go. But OK, go back 20 years. All right. You got it. OK, here we go. Just one second. Stop that one.

Now, planning probably has been dead money because the the rumor that the internal combustion engine is going to die. So look at that. Put your cursor on that flat part on the far left of the flat part. Way over here. Right about 2015 or something, 16. Okay. Here's 15, 16. Here we are flat 2016 to 20. Stunningly, it's the only metal I know that hasn't gone through a mean phase.

And I said, okay, okay i'm gonna watch this i bought a little pplt i think it is just to give me a price target screen um that's been going the other direction that's been going that that that yesterday quietly went up 10 really let me pull it back down to say the hourly. Oh yeah. Took a pop there, didn't it? Yeah. And, um, and it's been climbing. If you do a year to date, I think it must be around 15%. So let's see them. Oh, not the month. Sorry. Daily. Um, 2025, it started out at 909 and now now it's at 1,000. So, yeah, 10% on – I mean, sorry, $100 on 900. Yeah, a little over 10%.

So now my complete inadequacy as a technical analyst, meaning I just look and go, oh, fuck, it still seems kind of flat still. I'm watching that, and I've been watching it for a sign of life and I was actually a little shocked to discover I missed the sign of life yesterday. But there's some sort of window above which I'm going to say, okay, it is time to do a little Texas Hold'em because I tend to buy small amounts when I'm just curious. So I will get an idea, buy a small amount, and then just park and just watch it. Enough blood on the page to care, but not enough to cause any damage whatsoever. And then I just watch. I start paying attention. And I know that there's some bulls out there now. One very wealthy hedge fund is now saying um several smart people have

told him that platinum is the play and yeah such a small market i don't know about that but i'm i you know that this is crazy to me right here um no that's crazy and the problem is is it doesn't correlate with the price at all which means oh, oh, therefore, it's fictional. No, not at all. I'm sure if I didn't check here, but year to date gold's up pretty good, but it's not. It's not. We haven't yet woken up to, you know, sort of a triple digit. How's that? We haven't woken up to a triple digit gain gain. Well, I will tell you, so the metal prices are super manipulated. This is silver on a daily, so this goes back a year and a half or so.

This is totally inconsistent with what we're seeing. Like, it just can't go out of the way, which is why I'm telling you that my view of this, Dave, is it does nothing, and then you wake up one day and you can't get it. It's just gone. Like, that's how they're going to play this game because they've been running a scam this whole time. The question is, if you own SLV, for example, will that price tank because it's now considered worthless? Well, there may not be any silver in SLV, right? We don't know. You've seen the prospectus. It's this thick. It's full of gobbledygook, force majeures, and we track the price of silver, don't necessarily have it. No, you can't redeem.

Central Fund of Canada, which is supposedly audited, allocated silver. That would be different. That would be different. Or anything that Sprott is doing, because he's a super hard asset kind of guy. But he bought Central Fund of Canada. Oh, that's right. Central Fund of Canada has been around since 64 since 64. They've got a long track record of not failing. And then Sprott bought them. And then he has another Sprott silver fund, I think. He's got a uranium fund. So I would think those would do well. There might even be an alligator jaw effect, you know, for SLV versus Sprott's, you know, and that would be foreshadowing.

I don't know. I don't know. Well, I'm sorry, Artie. I daily email contact with him and he's a crotchety old bastard. Like you like him. Yeah. So check this out again. So let's talk this through, because I'm really alarmed by this on a level, because it could mean systemic trouble is on the way. Right.

Yeah. So what are we looking at here? This is, again, that same chart. It's coming out of Bloomberg this time. Is that an all-time high for that? Is that an all-time high? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. So what are we looking at here? This is, again, that same chart. It's coming out of Bloomberg this time. Is that an all-time high for that? Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yeah. So this is gold borrowing costs. So gold in the Bank of England vault is now trading at a discount to the market. Right? They don't have it. They don't have it. Right? You can read another article that says, oh, by the way, if you want gold from the bank of england because the queue because of unprecedented volume it take eight weeks for

you to get your gold bank of england can't give you your gold but if you buy it from them they're selling it at a discount to actual gold that you can get on the market and that's just them throwing water on a burning brush fire just desperate at this point in time there's that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard oh yeah we have gold for cheaper just you can't get it it's like that's not how markets work that reminds me of the russian phrase they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work yes exactly this is but this is this is like dave we've never seen anything like this so i think people should pay attention because that's a signal. It could go away. It might be nothing, but it's something now. I've been so duped so many times.

Not that it's cost me anything. I mean, I have a big honking chunk of gold. I haven't sold an ounce, and I was buying it up to $4.57 an ounce. I bought some more at $1,200 after I went through the peak and came back down. That worked out well too. Do you face the problem where there's things you would like to do, but you know, they're going to go down in some big whoosh. And so you just can't pull the trigger. I've got a wishlist of good ideas, but I think they're a real good idea after we've found the valley of death, right?

Well, this is, this is how we connect all of this up so we're our art look can we be clear our money system is a faith-based system i'm told it's a faith-based system we have to have faith that somehow it's all going to work itself out in the future and when you look at the level and degree to which we are over and so they say oh the developed world has 315 trillion in debt last time they bothered to add it up. Well, the United States has $100 trillion of that. 5% of the world's population, one third of the world's debt rounding. Well, those are even optimistic numbers. Something like Kolokoff would put ours at $250 trillion. Well, that's with the liabilities too.

So it can't be paid back, right? It can't be. So the only question you have to resolve at the high level is who's going to eat the losses. Yeah, that is. So the other thing I like to ask people, I hate the matter-of-fact dismissive statement, oh, we'll just inflate it away. I say, okay, so our unfunded liabilities are $2 million per taxpayer. And then they'll say, oh, but we'll just inflate it away. Okay, okay, fine. Have you budgeted for a $2 million loss of spending power? It's the same goddamn thing. Then I like to ask the question, who the hell successfully inflated their way out of debt? Do you have an answer to that? Because it's a tough question.

No, I don't have any examples, and I've studied it pretty well. Well, TMR Germany go, no, they didn't. Their debt was denominated in gold. They just hosed their people. So when you say we're going to inflate it away, that's just saying, that's answering the question, who's going to eat the losses? Well, it's everybody, but the little people more than the big people.

I have a great example where they did that. The example is all when you finally look at them carefully, they all end up in a default. With one exception I know of, and I've been tracking it down, and I have this very nasty suspicion, but after the Yom Kippur War, Israel had a banking crisis, and their inflation rate went from something like 3% up to 240%. I give Luke Groman credit for pointing me in this direction. And it hovered up at this ridiculous defaulting rate of inflation. And then it came right back to earth fast. And I'm going, how'd they do that?

Right. How did they pull that off? And, and, and that's an example of inflating it away. Now. No, no, because what they did was they, they, they strong arm the United States into pouring lots and lots of money into their account. So that was going to be my conclusion, is that I think we dumped a ton of money into bailer asses out.

So they didn't inflate it away either. So I think at the end of these debt cycles, I don't think you ever inflate them away. Now, some people like to give the United States credit because we had financial repression in the post-war era, where the interest rates were 10% below the inflation rate. The claim is we inflated that away. I go, you're ignoring the fact that we were something like 60% of the world's GDP and we were blocking and tackling pretty goddamn good during that period. I don't think you can just call that inflating away debt.

We got to rebuild the civilized world. And so. And we had abundant rising levels of conventional oil to sort of fund all of that. Because energy is everything, right? Oh, my God, yes. We don't have that right now. We have the expensive oil. A pan can even function without having its own autonomous energy supply, so I don't know how they do it.

No, you can't. You can't. You then have our way station for energy flows, but that's why I was so excited. We showed earlier in this show, right, Chris Wright, the new energy secretary, dropping 1.75 seconds of minutes of truth. 82% of the world is still funded by fossil fuels down from 84, right? I first heard that number. I'm glad to hear it again, because I first heard that in a talk at the New Orleans conference by Rick Rule. And he quoted that number. And I go, OK, I got to confirm that one because that's just flat out funny. It is. But it's true.

It's totally true. And then at one point, John Kerry made some claim in Congress about how much it would cost on a per unit basis to occlude CO2. To me, occluding CO2 is about the dumbest idea imaginable. It's like, you know what it is? It's the cat in the hat with the bathtub ring, and you're spreading it all over the front yard, but you're not getting rid of it. And then the congressman did some quick math, which I think he was ready. He had already done it.

He said, that's one and a half quadrillion dollars. And Kerry kind of said, yeah. How many world GDPs is that? That's like 15 years of global GDP. It's just some ridiculous number. That's insanity. You get a one and a half degree drop in temperature, which isn't even necessarily good news. The other thing is, as you and I both know, is that the solar physicists are telling us who are about to get really

goddamn cold. We are. Are they now? Yeah. Yeah. So. Wow. Where's my dogs?

Yeah. All right. Well, I think we're going to have to wrap this up now. I know you got to go. And I know you've thank you for being here with so little sleep and just brilliant as always. So any parting any parting thoughts here for us? Bob Moriarty, at Bob's expense, is uploading the year in review to a book form. And I can't imagine a more inferior way to make money for me is to put out a book on something that's been on your website for several months. I came with a straight face. Well, the good news is the links don't work. But he puts it out.

People buy it and alert them that that'll be coming out in a couple days i think because he's got all the stuff they're doing his expense he's paying for he does all the work and then he and then he just says click this button that'll upload it to amazon second thing i'm going to put in the plug for besides reading your year in review and i have not forgotten part three because uh people are asking dave ripping uh it's ripping my soul it rips my soul out so much that it's very hard to work on yeah i understand you know you want it you want to know what's painful? Painful is watching a 25-hour Ted Gunderson montage of talks. And Ted Gunderson, for those who don't know, is a former FBI head of the Dallas division, head of the Los Angeles division, a shortlister to run the whole FBI,

who talks about child trafficking and drug trafficking and all the bad things that the agencies do. And the child traffic is particularly bad because it gets into things that are so dark that you go, I don't see how a human being would do that. Parents have been abusing their kids for years, but I go, but that's not just abuse. I mean, that is truly, truly, truly on another plane. And it's very hard to read about, but I'm going to write an unvarnished version first, one that's just purely, you know, everything. Then I'm going to slowly but surely work it from friends and family, that includes you, and before it gets released. In fact, one of the thoughts I had is to start with it behind your paywall, which I've never encouraged you to put me behind your paywall before, right?

Yep. And give it a chance to sort of incubate in case there's an explosion. Once it's in a place like sarah hedge you lost control it's gone baby it's gone i i gotta find a way to get a little bit of feedback but it's gonna it's gonna take me months if people wanna if they see it they're welcome to uh i don't know dave if you ever saw the movie national treasure with with um nicholas cage and all that right um i i think i if somebody here uh wrote and said you think you're melting down now just wait till we start learning about your tax dollars being used to traffic children all over america and the world

i was on a zoom call in which i presented some data it's actually in the public in which i kind of went through It's actually in the public, in which I kind of went through my notes and just described what I was doing. So it was really, this is a work in progress. And about two hours in, an FBI guy, a CIA guy shows up. He's either CIA or CIA adjacent. I don't know, but he's- Does it matter?

Yeah, I know. What's the difference? And he shows up and he hadn't been listening. And then they, and I said, wait a minute, that's the CIA guy's coming? He said, yeah, I've been friends with him for 25 years. I asked him to come over. And then they asked him to summarize the problem of trafficking. And it's like my answer key. And he said nothing to contradict me. And he said, you're not going to stop it because he said, you know, maybe 18, 20% of the CIA is involved in trafficking. Now, here's the question I like to ask people. I said, you've done trafficking topic. The numbers are all over the place, but they're all huge. So one of the numbers is 10

million. They're not selling these kids just to work at Arthur Daniels Midland or some meat packing or something, right? These kids are all sorts of stuff. The other thing is they're not being sold into trailer parks. These kids, Gunderson in 87 said the average blonde-haired, blue-eyed kid will bring 50,000 bucks. Now, where do you get blonde-haired, blue-eyed kids in the modern era most effectively? And the answer is Ukraine. War zones. War zones. And it's called harvest season.

I mean, this is such a sick world. Harvest season is where there's a crisis. Where are we seated? Well, let's start with Maui. Remember how many kids? USA Today was saying up to like 700, 800 kids were not accounted for. You go to Wikipedia now. See if you can find.

First of all, the stats say 90 people died. And I go, I don't think so. Have you ever tried to find a list of names? They just give you the number. Oh, my God. Normally you get names. If there's an airplane accident, you can find a list of names. Right.

So what I like to say is, look, let's say there's a million. Let's say there's 10 million kids who are trafficked. They're going to people who have resources. Here's my question. And you can't pay 50,000 bucks for a kid to work in a meatpacking factory either. Right. So the question I ask is we're seeing the rumors of kids being recovered. We're seeing traffickers who look like MS-13 types. We're

seeing heroes who supposedly are grabbing up kids by the dozen. I go, this is not 10 million. Let's start there. But what you never see is famous, powerful, wealthy people receiving the kids and being punished for receiving the kids. What do you got? You got Denny Hastert. You have ones that are famous, like there's a father of God who runs a pedophilia quilt who would seem to be good buddies with Oprah for some reason. We have Maui contacts. And you can't, there's no recipients.

If 10 million kids a year are getting traffic, there's 10 million recipients. And I got to figure most of it's a harvesting process. I think they're draining the kid's blood. I think the Adrenochrome story is real because Adrenochrome, first of all, if you torture a kid to the point where their immune system is full fight or flight, then you drain their blood. And you do an IV and drop that blood into your system. You're going to get a high.

But Dave, isn't adrenochrome, it's a fairly simple molecule. I'm sure you can synthesize it in an afternoon. No, absolutely. It's a very simple molecule. I'm sure you could synthesize it in an afternoon if you wanted to. No, absolutely. It's a very simple molecule. Here's the difference. Besides the fact that there's Satanists out there, it's like, no, really? Yeah, Satanists is the most rapidly growing religion in the world right now, it turns out. But there's people, you know how non-scientists think about things like nutrition.

It's always so cockeyed. So adrenochrome doesn't even have to have any curative properties. But if there are people who believe it does, that's all you need. And if there are people who believe that the organic adrenochrome for dying kids really is rejuvenating, it doesn't matter if you can, the synthetic stuff, cause they hear synthetic, right? And they go, Oh, well that's not going to be any good. Right. That's like synthetic diamonds. I like mine harvested with blood.

Organic milk from the grocery store. Right. And so I think if there's a market and then, and, and you're sitting there and I'm, you know, I, I saw a guy do an interview. And it was with interviewers I recognized. It was kind of like one of these upper tier ones where it's half of a kind of an interview, kind of looks semi-Gutfeldian, but half kind of infomercial. But I recognized him. And the guy has a company, a startup that sells young blood. And openly, that's how it's advertised.

Yeah. And I'm watching the interviewers trying to get around the idea of where do you get it from? And one of them says, well, I'm sure it comes from a legitimate blood bank. I go, yeah, because 12-year-olds donate blood all the time. Yeah, yeah. And then I read an article about how he wrapped up that operation, started a new one, but it was still basically kids' blood.

So I think someone got on his trail, and he had to wrap up the circus tent and go somewhere else. And this shit's all out there. And I look at parents and their kids, and I go, where did biology fail so badly that these parents, and I know this happens, it's just hard to know the numbers. Parents insert their kids into satanic cults. What part of biology allows a parent, you know, you have kids, right? Mm-hmm.

Nothing. Three. I mean, they're the most adorable little critters on the planet, you know, and as Constantine Kyson said, they're cuter than 80% of the puppies. And, yeah, I didn't say a hundred.

And I don't understand where biology failed so badly, but these are multi-generational satanic cults who do this. And there's, there's all the MK ultra stuff. And I've just been, Dave, didn't we, but we just saw it writ large in real life play out where people would take their kids and gender transition them with sterilizing hormones, if not permanent life disfiguring surgeries. Right. What's even more stunning is that there's people with MDs who do it.

Mm hmm. Right. Isn't that part of the same arc of darkness, don't you think? Yeah, but I want those guys all lose their licenses. That I'll take that as an opening bid. That's iatrogenic medicine right there. That really is not, those people really should never be allowed to practice. But I was at Upstate Medical Center with my urologist who took out my prostate. His name is Wiener. That's funny. And I asked him about gender surgeries. And he said, yeah, they have it at Upstate. And I'm just stunned. Why isn't somebody saying no? And now we can, though. See, that's why I think the trump presidency is important it will all come to a screeching halt because the majority has just been bullied into silence

yeah but this darkness you're talking about dave i i you you said the word that i so i turn this you know i'm a very analytical person i like like my data. I like my framing. I like structures. I like scaffolding to hang things on. Nothing hangs all these ornaments quite as well as saying this Christmas tree is consists of Satanists. Yeah, whether it has a true religious connotation, but they believe in it, right? They put the symbology out there. They have the ornamentation they perform the rituals they do all these things and so it regardless of its spiritual actual legitimate in reality potency it's what they're doing yeah well the the royal families that thread throughout europe there's definitely lineage the entire house of windsor is a bunch of pedos best i can tell

um famous pictures of jimmy seville with king charles and stuff sir jimmy got knighted by the queen for his service for for skewering 500 kids a month um and and you know there's videos of a kid trying to shimmy out a window buck naked using his sheets tied together and falling to his death with Buckingham Palace and things like that. and the FBI shut it right down. The FBI tried to shut down the Franklin scandal guys. Got nowhere? Well, the FBI shut it down quite a bit, but the scandal still got revealed. And that's one of the best, the clearest pedophile networks that got unraveled. I remember when I was young thinking, you remember the McMartin case?

Yeah, yeah. That really caught my attention at the time. I thought that pedophiles must be soloists because how would you ever find other pedophiles without risking everything? And I now realize that no, the network is what protects them. And so when i saw the mcmartin case it unraveled and now they now call it satanic panic and now where you get a bunch of

kids who have the satanic panic so they use it to say here's what happens the kids are actually just fucked up and they don't they don't know what they're talking about. And some shrink talked him into it. And I said, well, that makes sense. And then I saw, you know, kids who had grown up from there and they were broken individuals on the logic that they realized what they had done. And as I've read, it's pretty clear that that's just bullshit. These are adults who are totally fractured personalities. And some guy hired archaeologists. There were tunnels underneath the McMartin, you know, daycare facility and stuff.

Tunnels. There's always tunnels. Tunnels, yeah. Tunnels everywhere. And so these are the things I've been digging into. It's been in the crockpot for two years and it just wasn't ready. Kind of like Trump's second term. You know, if he had if he had won the election 2020, he would not have been near as effective as he is now. No, he came loaded for bear, didn't he? Right. Well, he had four years to regroup, figure out who was loyal.

And he gave the other side four years to show what a bunch of complete assholes. Well, they almost killed him. They came within a half inch of taking his head off in Butler. And so he came back. His second term will be so much more effective than it would have been if he had won. In 2020, because he said, okay, let's, you know, that's my, that's my moment of hope here.

It's like they overdo it. They always overplay their hand, right? Like I think Pfizer had a pretty good thing going like pre COVID. I was actually leaning positive. Vaccines are good. My kids got vaccinated the whole nine yards, right?

Right. Post. I'm like, uh, never again. So they overplayed their hand. They,-uh never again so they overplayed their hand they they just they've just overplayed their hand again and now they're gonna have to face the consequences and the screaming is going to be extraordinary on this because they're not used to

consequences they don't think the laws apply to them right and uh we'll see what happens next dave what do you think they might do the they being the the people who sort of run the swampy deep state are you concerned about does the country have the firepower to handle all the corruption we're gonna turn up but what do they do to prevent that corruption like you know nothing helps like a good distracting thing like i don't know you know there's a a bomb attack that takes out some of the people we tend to care about. But, oh, no, there was an Iranian passport right there. A helicopter flies into a jet. Maybe, maybe something like that. I stare at those videos and they don't make sense.

I don't, right? I talked to a Black Hawk pilot. He seemed to not be troubled by the fact that they could miss it. But if you watch their flight path, they're really kind of going at each other and the plane seems to sort of start to curve away and the helicopter curves to intercept it. I mean, it really looks like it was intercepting it. Then you look at it from the side, the most recent one where apparently the guys who released it got arrested. Yeah, they did.

And you're going, there was nothing else in the sky but this big, huge, well-lit plane. Right. You can't tell me that Hancock doesn't have the ability to see jets. And they're running with the story. They're trying the trial balloon. They're like, well, we would love to get the altimeter data out of the black box, but it was damaged by water. Oh, my God. I'm going to lie. Holy Jesus. Those things are good to 20,000 feet, okay? the altimeter data out of the black box but it was damaged by water like oh my god holy jesus

those things are good to 20 000 feet okay in the water looks like when the ship hit the bridge in baltimore my boy was that a shady thing it was a high-tech chinese company that suppose it was greater remote control and they have a black box. I go, why would they? It would be in the cloud, guys. Let's start with that. It would be up in the cloud. And I just and then the question I kept asking is, OK, so what are we not talking about while we're talking about the jets and the helicopters? Sure, sure.

But but those are chump change compared to what I think they're capable of. They would crash an economy. They would get a bright flash going off in a city. You know what I'm saying? Right. So. Oh, yeah. This these are the people this is all in danger of being exposed. You're right. JFK being shot and that out. That's not even on the list anymore of top 10 things that are in the pantheon of badness. That's right. And if they're a risk of of dying, I mean, really, they are at risk of dying. By the way, if I found out that Fauci and these guys knew that the vaccine was killing people, and we do know that. They did know that.

Kind of an amorphous blob of who to point the finger. Like I asked Scott Atlas one day in a Zoom call, did Fauci and Burks and these guys do this on purpose or what? How do you explain this? He said, here's what you cannot fathom. You cannot fathom how stupid Fauci is. He said he is just a moron. And Birx was worse. So he said Fauci never made a scientific argument ever. And one day he walks into a meeting, and there's Alice sitting there with Trump. And he walks into a meeting, and he brings a paper for the first time. And Alice had read the paper.

He recognized it. Fauci went to say encephalomyelitis. And he butchered it so badly it was unrecognizable. And Alice said to him, what did you say? And Fauci wouldn't try to do it again. Birx was pulling data off the internet, making pie charts with not a clue about the quality of the data or what it meant, not a clue. And they kind of guided the entire global pandemic response. So, but yes, they overplayed that hand. If they had just said, look, pregnant women, stay away.

If you're already getting COVID, stay away. You know, you don't need it. But then it would have been legit, right? Or at least it would have looked legit. See, that's the overplay part. The other thing is when they say you have to mask up, they never said what quality mask you needed.

You could wear a bandana. Of course, remember we had the Surgeon General. Remember he came out and folded up a T-shirt and put it around his face? And I loved the double message. The T-shirt had written on it got naloxone so they're just trolling us with our fentanyl overdose problem the surgeon general takes the got naloxone t-shirt and folds it up and wraps it around it was such a signatory moment for the fall of rome guy from some medical agency was supposed to give a speech and you can see him

behind the scenes and he walks out right before he walks out on stage. He puts his mask on the podium and I'm going, Holy shit. They don't, they don't believe any of this shit. So if they had, if they had played it rationally, they might've gotten away with it better. But now, so I would never take another vaccine. No, just never. I might end up dying. There might be a karmic moment where where it's going to be. Remember, Dave said this and now he's dead. You know, you know.

Yeah. They would have to be studied properly for me to do that. And they haven't been studied properly. Myself, they had done clinical trials correctly. But that that we're so far from that well it's interesting you know like like they just tried to do a gotcha on new york times did this terrible just like literally defamatory reporting saying that kennedy's lawyer sued the fda to pull the polio vaccine do we want kids in iron lungs it's like whoa whoa back up aaron siri did that on behalf of a different client not rfk second it's because they took this oral formulation, which, by the way, is how you actually get exposed to the polio virus is through the gastroenterol pathway. So delivering an inactivated vaccine, you know, viral vaccine through that pathway with a couple of drops in the mouth.

It makes sense. Right. Right. Well, they suddenly changed it to just injecting it into arms which is like wait a minute why are you giving a gastroenterol vaccine virus in the deltoid muscle and they tested it for three days for safety and said oh we're good it looks like it works it's so bad it's just so bad it's so bad it's not the science what you know on wall street they call a blow-off top, right? Yeah. Where finally people say

enough, enough, enough, enough, enough. And you just don't know if we have the firepower to round up all the hooligans, because it's of a magnitude of trying to deport all the illegals. I mean, there's just so many of them. And so we at least, you know, the Nuremberg trials

were probably, you know, 10,000 Germans you could have hung. But they had to at least have some sort of show trial to make it seem like we tried to clean it. By the way, all those Nazi doctors got taken to fort dietrich mengele might have even made it to fort dietrich it's possible you know why let all that great knowledge go to waste i guess was the thinking at the time that is exactly what the thinking was yeah yeah it's it's just astonishing um so well i i I just I really don't know that we're going to get out of this whole thing without some turbulence. I think, you know, my watchword for this year is a lot of volatility. I got to say, my wildest dreams.

I didn't even know I had them have been exceeded. You know, the headlines are piling in while we're doing this. Right. Forty thousand federal workers have decided to opt for their buyout package. The CIA got a global email, if you want to quit your job, now would be a good time. Here's some severance, right? This is really a full, I mean, it needed to happen. I had an interesting thought. There was years ago a joke or something where it said drug checkpoint a mile ahead. And it showed people turning around and then the cops were intercepting them.

Yeah. So what we should do is be investigating the guys who resigned from these various organizations. Yep. Well, like that guy who quit and the Treasury official, he was so aggrieved, but he wouldn't turn over his passwords for the payment system. I'm like, pull that guy's passport right away. Right. Just make sure we've got him in country in case because we wouldn't want him traveling to a non-extradition country or something.

I'd put a bracelet on him. Yeah, well, and by the way, we didn't get to it, but maybe for another time. But, you know, Janet Yellen, who's my favorite monetary vandal of all time, turned into a financial fiscal vandal, too, and left a giant goose egg for the incoming administration with a debt ceiling and a nine point five trillion rollover schedule for treasuries this year and just a giant mess. And she did that on on purpose she didn't get a pardon those are all my dots in that story well so do you know the story the claim that a pardoned person cannot plead the fifth you know if that's true or not i've heard that's true but they can always say

i don't remember now what do you do there's gonna be there's so many people who would like to be able to get out from underneath the weight of this by telling the truth. I think at this point, there's plenty of people to testify. Yeah. And so it'll depend on whether we're really serious about getting them. Well, if if nobody goes to prison, this didn't work. We're going to need accountability this time. We're going to need consequences. We deserve them, but they have to happen or nothing gets fixed. Period.

So, all right. Well, Dave, I will let you go because I can hear you've got some dogs that need walking back there. They just came in. They're revved. They're all revved up. But thank you so much for your time today this is fantastic one of uh currently five boston terriers that are wandering here my son's rounding up another there's some more all right hey bring them to the farm do they hunt voles in molest and i think they pretty much just hunt chew toys you might be surprised bring them out i got i got a whole field for them to like explore oh there we go is that the family yeah there it is they're they're they're great dogs actually this one's the tubby one here comes more

that's awesome i know it's fantastic we're about to get a dog we got to get a dog we do need a working dog here i uh working dog these are not working dogs they don't work no i know i can see that in the face these are we've had so many dogs and so many breeds and we would never get another breed this is really this is the pin we've had labs and golden retrievers. I'm not interested in a lab. I was thinking terrier though, like a Jack Russell or larger because...

I cannot recommend more highly a Boston terrier. Like a French Bulldog that's healthy. Bring them by. We're right on the way back to... You're in Boston. We're right on the way back to um you're in boston we're right in the way back to uh cornell so i gotta go new hampshire where i left my labrador with my son-in-law so my son sorry my son-in-law um that's how tired i am um coming across route route nine remind me how close i close I passed by your house.

No, Route 9 is pretty, that's an hour and a half north of us. We're all the way on the south across Route 90. Okay. Yeah, we're right down there. I might, I've got some time because I canceled a class tomorrow and I'm going to leave tomorrow. So, yeah, I might do it. I'll give you a call if I need to. All right. Sounds fantastic. fantastic. So, but Dave,

thank you so much for your time today. This has been a fantastic, absolutely wonderful live stream here. And we have really good attendance. And of course we will package this all up and put it out so people can watch this after the fact too. Thank you everybody for being here, dropping all these great comments here. Really appreciated it. And sorry, I didn't get to all the comments,

but fantastic. And thanks. Did we get to any? What's that? Did we get to any? Oh, I just been, I've been, if you can't see them, they show up at the bottom of your screen. So you are responding to comments.

Okay. I have, I've been putting them up so people can read them. And so here's a good one for you right now. Dave, God bless you and get some rest. Being an MK Ultra product. Well, that's for next time. Okay. So thank you, Spicy White, for that.

Thank you, Monkey DL of WUR. Great discussion. Powerful duo. Thank you for that. Thanks, everybody for being here. And we'll do it again soon. With that, all right duo. Thank you for that. Thanks, everybody, for being here, and we'll do it again soon. With that, all right, bye for now, everyone.