Peak Prosperity - Epstein’s Suicide: Evidence or Evasion?

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

Epstein’s death inconsistencies suggest homicide, not suicide; official narratives questioned.

The following is the audio version of a video released at peakprosperity.com. Visit peakprosperity.com to watch the video and to find other insightful content such as articles, discussion forums, and exclusive subscriber-only content. Hello everyone and welcome to this Signal Hour with Chris Martenson and Evie Martenson. Hello, how are you? So good to be here. This is going to be a ripper of a show and the reason is we're gonna have to go into the Epstein case a little bit. His so-called suicide, we're gonna be examining that and we're gonna do it my way which means we're gonna look at data,

evidence, I'm gonna let you make up your own mind but I will present this sort of as a prosecutor might and I'm just gonna lay it out because I believe in facts I believe in data and by the way my superpowers I know BS when I hear it so we're gonna talk about that now fair warning to anybody tuning in there will be pictures of Epstein's dead body and things like that so if that upsets you tune out now because we're gonna go in and squeamish I'm not I'm not I'm not making this overly I'm really not gonna make this overly graphic but there's points that have to be made that can only be made by looking at the marks on

the body okay all right so with that we're gonna dive into this and it's gonna look like this um there, I'm leading the witness now. Uh oh, you are. Epstein didn't kill himself, really? Right. So all of this started with, we're going to discuss this astonishing interview that came out with Maria Bartiromo and you had Kash Patel and Dan Bongino. There they are. And it just struck a lot of people as maybe it looked a little a little guilty ish And I just put this tweet out my PhD from Duke University's in pathology toxicology my specialty and I performed autopsies I I you know, so I'm comfortable with the topics of what science can and can't do in forensically and

this just struck me is that we had a huge problem right away because Patel said, you know a suicide when you see one and that's what that was referring to Epstein. And Bongino said, he killed himself. I've seen the whole file. He killed himself. So we're going to look at that. Now, Evie, this is, um,

Phillips truth responded to that particular tweet of mine. And he come up with, came up with this list of eight sort of anomalies. There's some anomalies surrounding his suicide, but actually there's more than eight. Well, we'll come up to them, but I wonder if you want to just take us through these. So according to Philip, the anomalies surrounding Epstein hanging himself are just part of the story. Too many things really don't add up.

Number one, Epstein was found hanging in his cell despite being on suicide watch just weeks earlier and supposed to be under close observation. Two, Epstein's cellmate was transferred out of the morning out the morning of his death, leaving Epstein alone and prison staff failed to check on him every 30 minutes as required and then lied about it. Three, malfunctioning or missing security camera footage around Epstein's cell at the time of death. Four, both guards had fallen asleep at the time of the suicide. Five, the fracture of Epstein's hyoid bone which some experts say is more consistent

with strangulation than hanging exactly as the OP, which is me, states. Six, the noose used to hang Epstein reportedly had no blood stains despite visible neck lacerations. Seven, Epstein had access to other means of self-harm, for example the CPAP machine cord, but allegedly used a less efficient method. 8. The death scene was disturbed immediately by prison staff and the cell was likely cleaned and reused, destroying potential evidence. So make up your own mind, but these are the facts. Okay, that's kind of a that's a troubling fact pattern.

So I want to take this from a detective standpoint and then maybe a prosecutor standpoint. So let's build this case carefully, right because This is just what everybody is I think this is what we're all do in a situation like this like what what is the actual evidence and does it comport because as We know when you have something just even one piece of evidence That violates the so-called official narrative or the story that's being run with whether that's a defense a prosecutor Or the government making the case like you know that there was this one bullet that that killed JFK But it took magic turns and shattered a leg and fell out on a Kearney like completely unmolested like that

Right that one piece of data alone says okay. That's not how the JFK assassination happened That magic bullet is a stupid theory on its face, but also forensically okay, so here's what I'm gonna do then What I want to do is um I'll take this one so so let's just go through the death, make sure we all share common ground around this. So what happened? Okay, so this is the first moment of Jeffrey Epstein's discovery in the jail cell. 6.30 a.m. promptly, August 10th, 2019. He's found unresponsive in his cell in the special housing unit, the SHU, the MCC, Metropolitan Correctional Center, by guards Tova Noel and Michael Thomas, the two who fell asleep, distributing breakfast shortly

after 6.30am. He was in a kneeling position, they say here. This is in Wiki. I'm sorry, Grok dug this one up for me here. And this is according to Wiki and CBS News. He's found in a kneeling position with a strip of bedshe sheet wrapped around his neck, tied to the top bunk and heart was stopped. Immediate response. They cut him down, okay, from the noose and attempted CPR, emergency responders called. He's whisked away to New York downtown hospital. Somehow he's pronounced dead at 639. So finding him shortly after 630 and being pronounced dead at 639 is quite the trick, even in New York City, I would imagine. And scene details Epstein was alone in his cell, his cellmate had been transferred out the previous day and no replacement was

assigned against protocol. The guards had not checked on him for about eight hours, also against protocol. Having fall asleep against protocol falsified records very much against protocol two cameras outside to sell malfunctioned another had unusable footage of course it did so those are those are just some sort of the facts around it we've heard some of them before but one i want to build that up um as well there are a few other ed troubling facts that faguer came up with here. Yep. So look at this first one. He says Epstein was found in a fetal position with a mark around his neck 18 days prior and claims he was attacked by his cellmate, who is a muscle bound ex-cop who murdered four people, one via strangulation.

And then the prison officials claimed it was a suicide attempt, but the video was lost Error then Epstein gets transferred to a new cell and is placed on suicide watch Okay, now hold up hold up right there because because we just got to go into this so At 127 in the morning. Okay on July 23rd 2019 Epstein is found semi-conscious In his cell with injuries to his neck. But let's go here. Yeah, go ahead and read that. Okay.

Epstein 66 was found semi-conscious with marks on his neck and his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan. Sometime in the last two days, the sources said, Epstein is on suicide watch, two sources said. While the two sources said that Epstein may have tried to hang himself, a third source cautioned that the injuries weren't serious, questioning whether Epstein might have staged an attack or a suicide attempt to get a transfer to another facility. So this is July 23rd and of course he's killed a couple months later or he dies under mysterious

circumstances a couple months later. But this is important context. So he's found in a cell, he's in a a cell he's in a cell he's in a cell with this muscle-bound ex-cop right and they find him at 127 in the morning right and he's in a fetal position semi-conscious marks around his neck so first thing is like how did those marks get around his neck what did he try to hang himself with there's like details that would normally accompany like an actual investigation. Second thing we're going to note here is it was sources, sources said sources, sources, no names, right?

So who are these sources? Are they prisoners? Are they jail guards? Are they DOJ people? Are they shadowy CIA folks who are they just journalists who are opining? Who are these people? But this is where it gets really interesting. His... Well, look what the sources said about his cellmate, Tartaglione. Sources said Tartaglione claimed not to have seen anything and not to have touched Epstein. I didn't see nothing! How? Okay. These prison cells are even smaller than our studio. anything and not to have touched Epstein. I didn't see nothing. I how would okay. These prison cells are even smaller than our studio. Like I didn't see anything.

There was enough of a ruckus for guards to come running to find Epstein who says this guy just tried to kill me. Right. Who's a muscle bound ex cop who's in prison for killing four people, one of whom you strangled right? They come running they open up the thing there. He is in a fetal position marks on his neck This guy's like I didn't see nothing by the way There's a pic of this guy With German Shepherds, I mean I'm getting a vibe vibe off this guy. Okay. Yep. Yep. All right.

So we're going to turn now to this, which is the official DOJ report that came out in June of 23. This is under the Biden administration. Make of that what you will. And they're DOJ. This is investigation review of the federal bureau. The blah, blah, blah, Jeffrey Epstein. So here's so, so again, we're just setting the stage for the finding of the body so that we can all share in the few pictures that we do have to sort of analyze them, see what conclusions we come to. Sure. All right. So so this is this is what happened. Right. On August 10, at approximately 630 a.m. the two SHU staff on duty, Tova Noelle and material handler Michael Thomas began delivering breakfast to SHU

inmates. Noelle unlocked the door to Epstein's tier. When Thomas attempted to deliver breakfast to Epstein through the food slot in his locked door, Epstein did not respond to Thomas's verbal commands Thomas unlocked the cell door and saw Epstein hanged. Okay. Thomas immediately yelled for Noel to get help and call for a medical emergency. Alright so here's the deal this is really important because we just heard from Grokka it was reported that he was in a kneeling position he was cut down but now this is the official DOJ report So there's some changes here, and I think it's important that we get these locked in our mind

I'm gonna take this as the official Declaration besides unnamed sources reported by CBS So here's what we have it says Thomas told the office of the inspector general the OIG that when he entered Epstein cell Epstein had an orange string When he entered Epstein's cell Epstein had an orange string Presumably from a sheet or a shirt around his neck that was tied to the top portion of the bunk bed that was in his room Epstein was suspended from the top bunk in a near seated position Okay with his buttocks approximately one to one and a half inches off the floor Thomas said he

immediately ripped the orange string from the bunk bed and Epstein's buttocks dropped to the ground okay and then he was lowered further so he's he's this is saying he's suspended right and I pulled my earpiece out this says he says he's suspended with his buttocks just a little off the floor. So he's hanging, he has to be hanging, this is gravity, he now has to be hanging in a near vertical position. Because it's impossible for your buttocks to hit the floor without your legs being in front of you. That's true.

The way this is written, so we have to take this as truth because I'm gonna guess this has to be... So he'd be forward and his feet would be touching the ground a little? His feet would be on the ground in front of him. But for you to rip the string and have the buttocks hit the ground, I assume you have to be in this sort of a position head here. Yeah. Feet way out here. Yeah.

Okay. Does that make sense? So here's what we got. He was suspended. So he's hanging from this. So that again means that gravity is at work and he's going to be suspended. So it's going to be pulling almost straight up on his head. Right under his jaw.

Yeah. It's going to be a classic ligature mark. It's going to come up like this. It's going to be pulling up here. Okay. Two, his buttocks dropped, which means his legs must have been out front, not kneeling as described before, but we have, there's, okay, we don't know. So and this is something we ought to know the basics of the scene. Yeah. Just the basics. Like I

wish we had a picture we don't do we? There are no pictures. How did they not take a picture of this? How did they not? How did the steel all get recycled immediately? These questions need to be known. Ripped the orange string so not cut. So we heard before kneeling cut now. We're hearing seated position suspended and ripped anyway Conclusion that ligature mark any ligature mark should have been high and tight under his chin angled steeply upwards

Because he's suspended Right, right. Yeah, there's no way there's no way to have your legs out front and be leaning forward and have your buttocks suspended off the ground. There's just no way to pull that off physically. Not really. No. All right. So here's the detective's path we're gonna follow. Suicide or homicide? Which was it? Okay. And first thing we have to ask and answer is does the physical evidence, does it actually match the wounds?

That's question one. Question two is going to be, are there any misfitting pieces of evidence? Are there defensive wounds? Is there something about the shape of the body, the position of the body? Was it physically even possible for the alleged piece of thing that was suspending him to hold his weight? Right. Right. What was that material? What was that material? And are there any other surrounding events that might cause us to take a closer look? So an example of that would be detective comes, wife is lying dead at the bottom of the stairs. Mm-hmm.

Husband says, I guess she fell. But then he finds out from the neighbors that the day before there was violent yelling and shouting and... Massive fighting. Massive fighting over something or... Yeah, that the previous incidences of violence or something. All the ringing cameras in the home were mysteriously not functioning that day. You know, whatever. They would jump right down your throat if that was the case. If you were just a little person. Yes. You would be guilty just because.

All right. So the first thing we're going to do then is we're going to listen up here. This is a pretty good 60 minutes interview with Michael Bodden, who is probably the world's top, one of the world's top forensic pathologists. He's conducted 20,000 investigations and queries into deaths. He was the chief ME at New York City. This guy has been around the block a lot. He had some immediate questions early, early on.

Reason Dr. Baden thinks Jeffrey Epstein's death might be a homicide is because of the unusual fractures he saw in Epstein's neck. There were fractures of the left, the right thyroid cartilage, and the left hyoid bone. This is an autopsy photo of Epstein's broken hyoid bone, a U-shaped bone that sits under the jaw that part of the tongue attaches to. The thyroid cartilage sits at the front of the neck.

I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging. Sometimes there's a fracture of the higher bone or a fracture of the thyroid cartilage. And not three. Very unusual to have two and not three. And going over over a thousand jail hangings suicides a thousand in new york city state prisons over the past 40 50 years no one had three fractures

the new york city medical examiner's office let's let's start there over over a thousand that's a lot jail hangings nobody ever had three fractures so we're going to go into those fractures in detail so people know exactly what we're talking about. We've got some anatomy here, we've got a hyoid bone, we've got some thyroid cartilage. Sometimes accidentally called a bone by the media, but the thyroid cartilage is your Adam's apple. Yeah, I was about to ask. Adam's apple, it's more prominent in men.

Yes, but women have it too, but it's cartilage, it's more prominent in men. Yes, but women have it too and but it's it's cartilage. It's not a bone. Mm-hmm the Fun fact the hyoid bone is a bone and it is the only bone in your entire body Which is not otherwise connected to another bone through some sort of structure floating around out there like no ligaments or anything Yeah, it's just sort of just well, I mean it's suspended in your Your patella on your knee. Not a bone, but yes. True.

All right. All right. So never happened before. Disputes Bob's theory, saying the fractures of the hyoid bone and cartilage can be seen in suicides and homicides. They stand firmly behind their finding of suicide by hanging. So can be seen in suicides, but well, I'll show you more data on that in just a second. It needs to be pointed out that it's never seen,

never ever seen in the context of hanging with a bed sheet. So it's possible, it's possible, so there's sort of lumping them. They're like, oh, when people hang themselves, it's like as if that's a singular thing. Some people sit up on a tree branch and heave themselves off the branch. Some people kick a stool out and have a jolt, right?

Or if you have like a wire, like if you use a cord, that's gonna do something different than if you use a cloth. Exactly, so it's totally stupid to say, oh, well, because we see these in hangings, therefore it's totally possible here. It doesn't consider the totality of the circumstance, what was actually used, and what does that mean? Then there's the two nooses. This was the one that was sketched and included in the autopsy by the medical examiner. Nice sketch.

Presumably because they thought it was used in Epstein's death. Okay, just for kicks though, see that says 34 and a quarter inches on this long tail out here? 38 and a quarter inches? 38. That's important because we have to consider like how, was there enough rope? Because remember he's supposed to have been hung off the top bunk Right plus his buttocks is only an inch off the floor So now we get a sense of how long that that that the lead on this like there's the noose itself But then there's the lead right right

Is 38 inches enough to pull that off that would be one question and do we see marks on that that would be? consistent with it having been tied and weighted by a 198 pound man. But Dr. Bodden says that noose and the wounds on Jeffrey Epstein's neck don't appear to match. What do you see when you see these two things together? What I see here is that this noose doesn't match the ligature furrow mark. It's wider than this. To the naked eye, it looks like there's some blood here and it doesn't look like there's any blood on this noose. That's right.

This looks like a clean noose that was never used to compress anybody's neck. There's also something that's striking about the photos. The wound is down here. You'd think if somebody hung themselves, the wound would be maybe up here. Yes. Most hangings, especially free hangings, the ligature slides up to beneath the jawbone, the mandible. Here it's in the middle of the neck. Dr. Baden says a wound straight across the neck

is more common when a victim is strangled by a wire. Correct. So that this is all true. So it's garroted. We'll get there. Potentially don't. I'm sorry. Don't lead the witnesses. So the jury. So but but it's starting to accumulate here. There's already some very obvious questions, right? And, and the first thing I want to set up is that why is it up to the New York Medical examiner to declare if it was a suicide or not? This is normally the province of a, of a detective. At no point is there,

did they consult with and say, oh, but the detective, the lead investigator has determined it was a suicide, right? All a medical examiner can determine is that the wounds are consistent or inconsistent with something, cause of death. Right, right. That's it. But they don't decide the cause of death typically. They wouldn't. No, I mean they can. And lazy, lazy police work is like, oh well, you know, they said it was a suicide, right? Like that Clinton associate who was found strangled but also with a shotgun wound in the middle of the chest.

Yeah. They declared that a suicide, case closed. So at any rate, I'm not too impressed with this. So let's notice, let's dive in on this tiny bit. So here's what we see. This is the wounds across his neck. First off, this is his hyoid that's fairly crushed right here and you can see a lot of bruising around this. The second thing is you can see there's a very consistent thickness of whatever this was that ligature left a mark. It looks to me like it's flat-ish potentially in about mmm I don't know quarter inch across. And the second thing we're going to notice is

that there's a lot of wounding around the right side of his neck and there's almost none around the left side of his neck, the left side from his standpoint. And the third thing we're gonna notice is there's actually two wound paths, this one and this one. So this is one single path so you can imagine one possible mode of action here was something was grotted around his neck like a wire of some kind was pulled by somebody and they were pulling harder to the right and at first they had one pull on it and then it got shifted and then you had a second pull on it that shifted the cord from here going this way to a little bit higher coming around this way. Well it would have

stayed firmly anchored right here so this is highly consistent. So the lot of people said, Oh, you know, he really wanted to kill himself. So he threw himself onto that. That's why it was looked so violent like that. He threw himself onto it, right? Like twice, right? He messed up the first time. But also only to the right side. Yeah, that is kind of interesting. And oh, this is supposed to have been a left injury to the left part of the high. Right.

Well, both sides of the high were crushed out. Okay. Right. Both sides. So it was broken both sides. We'll look at that in a minute. But you're jumping ahead. Oh, sorry.

Just trying to build the case here. I'm sorry. It's easy. No, just my brain is. I know. I know. I know you're thinking normally. It's easy. No, just my brain is. I know, I know. I know you're thinking normally it's good but um, uh, so here is and it's, it's very clear that this is strong violence that happened here, right? Yeah, you can see that. And oh, I remember what I was gonna say, which is also that, um, the bed sheets are prison bed sheets. They're specifically designed to tear and not hold

weight. So they can't be used for suicide, particularly in a cell where you're on suicide watch or violence probably between inmates, maybe. Sure. All of that. But if you were going to try and take a bed sheet and make it into something, if it was like tissue paper, but you wanted to turn it into something, you could hang yourself. You and I both know how to make cordage out of grass. Or even, I bet I could even make toilet paper strong enough to hang myself with if I was careful with it, right? Because you twist it and you twist it.

But if you had that, if you had twisted this up, and what they showed in that, and we'll get back to the news again, the alleged news that they said, oh, this must have been it. That wasn't twisted at all. That was just all one flat piece. Yeah, it's true.

It wasn't carefully what we would call corded. No, it wasn't corded. It wasn't. Now, if you hang yourself with something that's corded or twisted and they found them dead. So that means that you were, you had a circulating heart circulation was going hearts pumping you start hanging yourself your heart stops. Now you are no longer filling your vessels up with blood anymore and what happens then is the skin tends to set a pattern around whatever it was that was there particularly if you're hanging on it.

And an hour or two has passed and you're just like, whoa, right? We would see if that, if he had used a twisted thing, we would see the marks of that in his neck very clearly at this point. It would look different than it does. It would leave an imprint. It would be, yeah. Right, we don't see an imprint of a big fat,

wide, orangey thing that they tried to show us, but I'm gonna prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that can't have been it. Okay so let's come forward Vigilant Fox put this this clip up this is the one I watched I love everything Vigilant Fox does here but let's listen in now to Cash and Dan. You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. People don't believe it. Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion, but as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor who's been in that prison system,

who's been in the Metropolitan Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was. Okay, I'm gonna start there. So how does being a public defender sort of bolster your case for here are my bona fides. Dude, I was a public defender.

I was a public defender. You know a suicide when you see one, right? I would think anybody who's been in the legal system for any time at all understands that faking suicides is one of the more common ways people try to evade being caught committing murder or homicide. Or they just unalive somebody because that person's going to testify in a way they don't like. There's a whole, I mean, people get into the prison system too. Like there's a whole economy in there where you can get all sorts of stuff, right?

Yeah. Oh, God. It's like, it's not impossible to think that something like that could happen. People buy hits in prison systems all the time, at least if the TV I watch is accurate. Might not be, but I'm pretty sure it is. So, so in the second thing is that actually the actual correct statement from somebody who's in law enforcement is when you encounter what looks to be a suicide, you have to very carefully rule out that it wasn't staged because that is a common thing that people do. I can tell you that from my experience as somebody who's been in the prison system, who's been a public defender, who's been around law enforcement. That is the only

accurate statement you can say. Not because I was a public defender, you know a suicide when you see one. That just, my bells went off right away. I was a public defender. You know, a suicide when you see one. That just my bells went off right away. Yeah, I was like, why? Why I didn't scared? Well, and then it gets even more awkward. He killed himself. Again, you want me to? I've I've seen the whole file.

He killed himself. I know it's hard work. I've seen the file. I've seen the file. Well, then he please share that file with us. Can we talk about it? Because here's the thing. The whole, this is just another version of trust me, bro. Look, whether we want to put higher or lower levels of trust around cash and Dan, compared to the prior administration or any prior administration the whole point of them coming in was supposed to be higher transparency and they lead with trust me bro not a good look as far as I'm

concerned yeah so that was that all right now here's here's the thing a normal ligature hanging mark would be like this it comes up very rapidly under the chin. Yeah. Oh Yeah, yeah, there we go under here But Epstein's ligature mark is actually cutting straight across his neck it this is the path of travel of how Epstein Allegedly hung himself. So how many ways can we imagine? Getting that mark The the Epstein ligature marks I should say because as we've already established is actually two at least two Possibly three this might be a third departure here

But there's at least two main ligature marks going this way in that way with obviously the crushed larynx here the thyroid bone bone that cartilage It and so those travel literally this way So how could you hang yourself? You'd have to be skydiving, like whatever the force is, like you'd maybe. So if you tie it to like something, you would have to be leaning straight away from it. Right. You know what I'm saying? You would have to, if it's tied here, you would have to lean straight away with enough force to both crush your thyroid right? Like that's a crush right there and the fact that we see this bruising and everything all around it says that was crushed at at well that

bruising happens during life because once the heart stops pumping you don't typically see that it doesn't set up like that afterwards right? That's called petechiae right? Well the pete the patiquier are all these little red eruptions around here. And by the way, he has patiquier in the eyes, which is entirely consistent with strangulation, not hanging, hanging, you get patiquier in the mouth and down here and stuff. But he had patiquier in his eyes, which are little ruptured capillaries. But yeah, so leaving that aside for a second, we'll get back to that. How can we account for this ligature mark like this? When we know that they said, Oh, we'll get back to that. How can we account for this ligature mark like this? When we know that they said, oh we found him his buttocks was suspended off the floor

We ripped it and he fell straight to the ground. He's hanging So how would you with your feet out straight have managed to apply pressure? So they you know, you you you've you've put a ligature mark way down here instead of higher that goes straight back how do you do that how do you create a straight ligature mark around your neck maybe we should ask see what the comments are saying well yeah skinny says if your butt is dangling an inch from the floor when your instinct just be to put your butt is dangling an inch from the floor, wouldn't your instinct just be to put your feet down? Yeah, unless, you know, the point was to kill yourself.

So you're really trying hard. Oh. Show us his eyes. Well I'll tell you what, I need a lot of autopsy photos that we did not get. I tried hard to find the autopsy itself and I couldn't get the whole report, it's just not available somehow 60 minutes got their hands on a bunch of photos, but I can't you know, so I have to use I have to use Yeah

And I agree with this Bongino's face said it all he was lying. He's so compromised and that's a short list on who silenced him He definitely didn't seem like he was asked acting like himself Yep. Yeah, and oh by the way, sorry showed that one. I wanted to get this one. I This is what I thought. Yeah, I thought somebody roofied these these two the security guards because they were conveniently sleeping And didn't something weird happened to them after the fact too. Oh I didn't chase that down or something weird. I didn't chase that down about it. All right So here from the side we can see even more clearly now Evie just how violently this is I didn't it's not like I'm sort of making it up that maybe this was like not headed

This way Right. This this would be this this is right up under the jawline this is would be a standard hanging right here it would also be higher up here typically right this is straight on top of the Adam's apple and it comes ripping straight around the side then was repositioned and came up this way I'm not sure about this one still I don't know if that's dried blood or I mean again I'd have to have access to higher quality photos and then here you can see all these patiquier up here and as well you might also notice is gonna be important later do you see this this is levitity right here you see how reddish this year looks yeah that

would be consistent actually with being on your side when you died when your heart stopped pumping. Oh Really? Because the blood settles pretty rapidly, you know over the next X amount of time after you die it It settles and that's gonna be important later. Now we have one more thing We got to talk about here, which is this which is hold on. There's not just these marks We talked about but there's these up here. There's a lot there's this These are pretty significant wounds up here there's a lot there's this these are pretty significant wounds up here all right contusions of some kind and as we're gonna see those are actually consistent remember now there were there were three

three fractures they talked about two in the Adam's apple on each side and they were in they're broken out so that's consistent with being crushed in, okay? Or you could be garrotted or strangled or whatever, but yep, crushed out. And then there's the hyoid bone, which comes all the way up, and I'll show everybody pictures, but it was broken up here on the left side, up high, which is consistent with those two green arrows.

This is exactly where that fracture would have happened of the hyoid bone, because it's way way higher this is the thyroid way down here the hyoid bone is way up it sits it's way up under here. How would you fracture that just getting hit there? A lot of ways you could get hit it's possible if you had put enough just pressure on it so you could hang yourself but you need to again like you mentioned before a rope or a wire something that's providing a lot of very concentrated force, right? But it's interesting that it's broken up there, but there's only the one like little

Kind of mark it could have you could have been struck It a striking force could have done that but again just to just to start settling this out we have here This is your thyroid cartilage, your Adam's apple is here, and then the hyoid bone is this piece, and up here is the right person, and here's the left. It would be way up under the jawbone on this other side. And looking at it again with some basic schematics here, the hyoid bone is found much higher. So if you went from your, if you feel this, your Adam's apple, go up even higher

and you can just feel that the front prominence is way up there. Oh yeah, a couple of fingers from your. Yeah, it's up there. And that would be this part of it. And then it has these two horns that come up. The hyoid bone looks like a big U, right? And it was this part, this greater horn

on this side right here that was broken. And this is what it looks like when it was broken. And I said, I think it's been broken into three pieces and let me tell you why. I think they're missing a piece here. First off, a couple of very subtle things. They've tilted this slightly, so the two horns match a tiny bit.

But if you look at this, you can kind of see they didn't have this rotated exactly right. Hey, you know, you just throw this down on the autopsy table. Fine. But this has been taken out of the body cleaned, macerated, it's been cleaned off so that we're looking at like a wishbone or something. And here's why I think a piece is missing is because when you try and line up these top and bottom pieces, you can see there's this little horn in the back.

We are looking here, this is as if you were see there's this little horn in the back. We are looking here. This is as if you were looking at it from the front of the body. Like if you were looking at mine, that's what it would look like from the front. We could also look at it from the back, from the posterior position. So this is the anterior position.

So we're looking at it from the front. Okay. From the front, we see that there's a piece back here that snapped off, which would be consistent for me with being broken this. Like if you imagine snapping up a wishbone to break this way with a piece sticking off, I would imagine it's like snapping this way. But we pushed, we've pushed it in, but just again, just to guess,

this is the side that was unbroken and you see, I've drawn some dotted lines here. Yep. And here I've drawn the same dotted lines here. Yep. And here I've drawn the same dotted lines on this piece and you can just see there's a little gap here. Almost as if there's a little, maybe we would need another piece to make sense of this. Right. Or maybe a piece. It's possible. Somewhere. It's possible but again maybe it's rotated funny because you could see maybe maybe this piece needs to be actually stood up a little bit like needs to be

Rotated and therefore we're looking at a fatter aspect of it. Mm-hmm, right? So I can't tell again, please give me sufficient photos Here somehow 60 minutes came up with a picture from the backside. So this is the posterior view So we're looking at it from totally the other way exterior view So we're looking at it from totally the other way And now I think we can begin to see a little bit more clear So first up I had to rotate this image to make it flat again Okay, and now these two horns are the same length and again It shows that now it's easier to appreciate that potentially there's a missing piece in here

Yeah, and same story we start drawing some lines on here, and we just see that it just doesn't line up. No, we're just it's just a little off. But again, it could be a rotational problem. Don't know. We just don't have high enough quality photos to look at it. But at least it's broken into one piece one two pieces, right? It would be nice if whatever they put it on when they photographed it had like little millimeter, like a little measurement scale. You know how they do sometimes? They might have had it on this one. I had to grab what I could.

And again, I'm annoyed that I have to deal with all the 60 minutes watermarks and that they got access to these photos, but nobody else can. You're not authorized. Yeah. All right. but nobody else can. You're not authorized. Mm, yeah. All right, so carrying on, again, the hyoid bone way over, you know, way up here, way up here under, compared to this.

So again, notice this is the horn that was broken off, that little piece right there, and that does line up with that. Yep. So now we have to account in our official story how do we have one set of marks and they are a set of marks because we've already established that there's at least two but possibly a third but that could be blood. Again if that is blood raises the question why is there no blood found on

the sheets that allegedly hanged them? Good question. But we have at least two ligature marks coming around the side here on the right side Okay, how do you to be complete? You have to explain this what what accounts for that enough violence? And there's no other you'll notice here Evie. There's no There's no other Marks connecting them. It's not like the new suddenly slipped up there or something. So we would have these abrasions that would, it's just all by itself, a wound there that we might imagine was a striking blow or maybe he fell earlier in the day and hit his thing

on the side of the table. You have to account for it though. You do. Right. And maybe, you know how he had that issue that happened with the cop that was in there with him previously? What any of those injuries? I'm sure they ruled that out. But would any of whatever happened from that altercation have still been present? Like, could he have broken his hyoid then and they wouldn't have known it? Like, I don't know. I'm just curious. it like I don't know I'm just curious it's possible but if that was two weeks earlier you probably would have seen reactive tissue around it and this wouldn't have been a fresh abrasion that's a fresh contusion right there yeah it would it would have been a bruise by that point in time it would have settled in you know it would have gotten purpley yellowish something yeah

that's fresh I would put that I would place that consistent with the time of these other marks that I see on here. Yeah. Makes sense. Yeah, same sort of degree of redness to this is to this. It's weird because I can see like it looks like popped blood vessels. You could imagine that that's blood could have come out of there but also not you know when you have like a um when you have a blood blister under your skin it can look really dark and reddish almost as if the blood's at the surface but it's not yeah and the neck tissue i know is sensitive that way yeah yeah so this this is fairly crushed though. His hyoid was broken, but his thyroid cartilage was just crushed. And this is what it looks like. These are, well, I wish I could get actual x-rays of everything and all of that.

But anyway, so this is one side, this is the left side crushed out and the right side crushed out. And these are fairly crushed, you'll notice like this isn't just sort of like, ah, there's a lot of fragments in there. His, his Adam's apple got well and truly crushed, which does make sense, right? Look at that. So that's a lot of force. And the first question I would be asking as a investigator is is can I develop that much force slump hanging on a prison sheet hanging thing because again they're designed to tear. So the first question would be how much force can you apply? How much force is required to create that level of traumatic injury? And is it even possible with a

non twisted a non corded bed sheet can Can you do that or does it tear? What was the name of that scientific show? They used to like test out things like this on CSI. No, it was something else I can't remember the name of it We all loved CSI because because they would find like one little hair Under a the dog's bed that would like disprove the whole case. And we love that, all of us, because it made the world was rational and made sense and evidence mattered. You know, here they're like, the FBI is hosing down the stands, you know, the roof of the roof of July 13, and all the steel is magically recycled before anybody can look at it. And they whisk him out

and don't take any photos of the crime scene until after he's the body has been moved and everything's gone. If we call it a crime scene. No, I'm thinking of a show that used to y'all in the comments, my myth busters. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Myth busters. Okay. Thanks Rick. All right. We see that there now. So again, there there's that Ohio aid bone is, is way over bone. It's way over there. It's way over there. So I had to do some digging around and we heard Michael Bodden say in a thousand prison hangings, you've never seen all three of these bones broken. So, okay.

Steve Steinbeck here is saying, well, out of 48 examined cases, right, of hangings, the hyoid bone only broke when a nylon line was used never if a bedsheet or cheesecloth who hangs themselves with cheesecloth well somebody did and so here we can see here's 48 14 times the hyoid bone was fractured 16 times the thyroid cartilage was fractured 18 times no fracture so no fracturing is actually more common than either of these other two okay and Pretty much a hundred percent of the time the high-oid fractured. It was because they used a nylon line, right? Or belt or an electric cable which makes sense right now bedsheet zero

And the thyroid zero Right, so it just it doesn't happen mm-hmm your cheesecloth supposedly I guess you could thyroid cartilage fracture from that all right so there was there was one there was one one we I got one sheet of the autopsy report the cover page okay that's all we got out of New York Medical Examiner. So the final diagnosis was a ligature furrow of the neck, if I saw that, or furrows, I should say, because there's clearly two, that's obvious.

Particule hemorrhages of bilateral, papirbral, conjunctiv A, and oral mucosa, confluent hemorrhages of the right bulbar conjunctivae. Okay, so his eyes, a plethora of face and head with particular hemorrhages of face. And then in green we see the fractures of the thyroid cartilage, cornea, the two wings of it on the side, and also the cornea of the left hyoid with accompanying soft tissue hemorrhages and I hope they talked about that, but Evie, what do you see down there in red? Abrasions of left forearm cutaneous contusions of wrists and subcutaneous hemorrhage of left deltoid muscle

Where did that come from? What about these abrasions and contusions? What about those? And it also says see an anthropology report. What the heck is that? I have no idea. I have no idea. But at any rate, this is this is this is bizarre to me that they just they just drop them down. There's all these abrasions and hammered and other things. And then that's the end of that.

As far as I know. All right. Strange. That's all we that, as far as I know. All right. That's all we have, though, to work on. So let's go now to the Epstein crime scene first. This is the door to his cell. That's what it would have looked like. There's a window that you can peer into. Again, he's supposed to be in a special unit, the SHU,

for suicide watch. Weirdly, I would think, and I'm no expert at this EV, but I would think that if you wanted to have somebody in suicide watch you would have him in a room without a corner on it Yeah, you would think so The door is over here but but there's a corner like how do you put somebody in a room Pursues I watch the whole thing. It has a corner in it room for suicide watchers. It has a corner in it. But this is allegedly the room as they found it. This is a photo after who knows what's been moved, who knows what state everything was in, who knows what's been added or subtracted, but we're supposed to believe like this is

something that represents. Anyway, he had a lot of extra bedding yeah he did that's a lot normally they give you one of each of those things they showed this hanging here from the lower right side right side of the lower bunk just I guess that that thing but I think you can clearly see that this is torn yeah and this end isn't connected to anything so I'm not clear what this was. That's not tied to the upper bunk. This is I would say that's tied to a post. Right. So again, the only distinction we have is I mean, definition we have was this coming from an upper bunk. This was found over by here. Let me show you where this is found. This is found in that earlier photo. You see there's this desk here

with probably a swing out stool and here's the potty, right? You can see that that hanging and there's these white bars. So this is found in the floor over there and I want to notice here that that looks torn to me. That looks torn. That looks torn. That possibly looks cut looks cut Oh that end I know yeah And and if if the if the guard did tear him down with a with an orange string This would actually be the thing I would be focused on Because I can tell you it's got not one but two knots that have been weighted So this is a possibility for something that could have been.

But but there shouldn't be any question about which was the news that he was that you that you found around his neck. Are they confused about this? Well, this is this isn't the one they drew. You're right. I'll show you a picture of that one in a minute. This is not the one they drew. But but if I was going to guess, I would say, okay, it's, it looks weighted, it's smaller, like, this is a this would be a but again, they didn't go with that one. So how do you make that

basic of an error? Like, oh, we don't we forgot, we just didn't notice which was the actual news. Oops, it was the wrong one. Oops, it was the wrong one. Right. If it had been that one, though, would those knots have shown up? Or not necessarily? Let's go back at it again. So I can't make sense of this totally because if this was the knot and this is the one that came around his neck and they tore it off of his neck, I think they would say that we you know,, how was the noose removed from his neck? Did somebody cut it off? Was it torn off? Because if you're doing chest compressions,

you're trying to revive the guy, you're gonna if he has something tight on his neck, you're taking it off. Yeah, right. So if it was torn off, if this was the one, then you're right, there would be on what I would presume to be the right side, but can't be positive. But somewhere close to the front of this thing, there would have been a big old knot. Yep. But then this end should match wherever the other part was that was torn down, right? Yeah. All right. Let's carry on. Hey, there's a CPAP machine there. You know what that has? That has a cord. Yeah it does. That has a big old cord on it. Way easier. Yeah. If you're trying to hang yourself and you want to commit suicide and you're serious

about it, there's, that's what you would use. And by the way, who's on suicide watch is given a giant electrical cord? I've never heard of that. I didn't know you had such a thing in a prison cell, honestly. Honestly. For that exact reason, you know, yeah, this. Hello, this is a little bizarre. But don't worry, bro. I read the file. And I actually think that that cord is highly consistent with those marks that I'm seeing there. Yeah, it does look or something a lot like that cord, highly consistent in terms of width and consistency

across its aspect. And would the cord, if it had happened to that, I mean, they would have been able to know just by looking at it. Well, if you've done any forensic investigation, yes, you'd be able to tell. If it was like stretched out from the weight of it. Yeah, I mean, working against that being it, I don't see any obvious thing where it's been sort of like, you know, gripped and twisted.

Like it's quite violent to try and, you know, garrot somebody I would imagine. So I would imagine you would have to really get a good handhold on that thing and pull pretty hard. But fortunately, it has a handle right on it. It has a handle. I don't know. I don't know how this works. And I don't know what this further yellow thing is down in this corner.

What's that blue? Is that a glove? That is a glove, isn't it? That's odd. Huh. That's good. Yeah, what is that? Looks kind of like a nitrile glove. Well, it does those are nitrile gloves and this is a prison slipper I don't know what that is and I don't know what this yellow thing is So anyway, that's all we got to work with so tension cord. I

Would just say that's a possibility. Okay, this is what they said was used but here I want you to note something that that there's those Defibrillator pads there and this is now on top of that. I Don't know what those little wheels are but I'm gonna guess that's one of those gurneys like they threw them up on something But then somebody took a picture so that new see thing had to have been thrown down on After those defibrillator pads hit the ground. So somebody moved it. That's all I can tell you. Presumably after taking it off his neck. We don't know. Right. But here's a close-up picture of what they this is

was included in the autopsy report that 60 minutes got. First off we're gonna note that this is a hemmed seam right here. So this wasn't cut and it wasn't ripped down. So remember those are our two options for how the guard got him down. Either cut with a knife, scissors, I don't know, or ripped it down. But it wasn't this. This was not the noose based on that description. Full stop. Can't have been. It could have been part of whatever the noose allegedly was, but it wasn't the noose allegedly was but it wasn't the noose yep yep and and by the way rockstar is absolutely correct yeah that's awesome forensicsness this is right

there and it's probably closer to this closer to this. Probably. And MC probably. Yeah. Nus was created as a prop after the fact. I, you could be very right about that. Yeah. Um, furthermore, we could go further, but this wasn't it. We know this wasn't it. And furthermore, if it was tied up and somehow they untied it, there's no knotting up here that would have been because when you when you weight 198 pounds on this kind of material you create a knot that creates marks oh yeah that are impossible to remove again right we know as rock climbers and you if you fall on your knot yeah it's impossible to get it out good luck getting that out and yeah yeah it would wrinkle the fabric there too. Yep.

Here's another picture of it. They took lots of pictures to try and establish that this was the noose, right? So just to complete the tour of the so-called crime scene, again, measuring tape, nicely done. There was this loop-de-loo around one of the rungs of the ladder that would get you to the upper bunk.

OK? And just for kicks, though, another anomaly one of the rungs of the ladder that would get you to the upper bunk. Okay. And, uh, just for kicks though, another anomaly that we haven't talked about was this. The removal of Epstein's body from his cell was a violation of protocol as the Bureau of Prisons, the OP mandates that a suicide scene be treated with the same level of protection as any crime scene in which a death has occurred. Consequently, prison personnel also failed to photograph Epstein's body as it was found.

Mm hmm. Yeah. Sure. Okay. Yep. All right. So now let's let's listen in because this is a before and after story. Listen, that Jeffrey Epstein story is a big deal. Please do not let that story go. Keep your eye on this. Catherine Rumbler, I want you we need to keep the heat on this case, folks. There are a lot of people who are knee deep in the Washington swamp who are not telling you the truth about Serious allegations out there that Epstein may have had video and audio of people out there Doing things they shouldn't have been doing and you should be asking yourself the question

How is it that all these people the CIA director the Obama fixer Bill Clinton all? Intersected past with Jeffrey Epstein Jeffrey Epstein isn with us anymore, and nobody seems to want to talk about it. Outside of a few entrepreneurial media outlets saying, hey, this is a big deal. He killed himself. Again, you want me to get, I've, I've seen the whole file. He killed himself. What, what, what is, uh, editorially? What does DC do to you? I'm maybe we can explore some some ideas around this next, but but I just want to get through the whole case.

OK, so here's there's another really important piece of evidence here that we just have to put in for completeness. It comes to us again for Michael Bodden, who just speaks when I hear him speak. I get calm because I'm like, oh oh that's that's how it should sound when somebody's not being a moron. Since Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his jail cell here in New York and still many questions left unanswered. Fame pathologist Dr. Michael Bodden who was hired by Epstein's family to look into the autopsy is revealing new details from the investigation and the examination and he joins

us live. Dr. Bhadin, good morning to you. You say that the answer to whether or not he killed himself could be in his eyes. Explain that. Well, that helps. That is, with hanging, when the loop comes up under the windpipe, under the mandible, there usually is not any kind of hemorrhages in the eye. With homicidal strangulation, because of the increased pressure, there are hemorrhages in the eye. And when you examined the body, there were burst capillaries. There were burst capillaries in the eyes called patechiae.

And that's not conclusive, but that's greater evidence of homicide than suicide. When you hang yourself, what about your lower extremities? When you hang yourself, the blood, the levity, the blood settles down to the lower legs, and you get maroon discoloration in the front and back of the legs. Turns purple. Maroonish purple, yes. Maroonish. And this was not present here. What color were color were they there was normal color normal pale color. So that's a big detail right there That's not just weird it's kind of disqualifying

So again, if you were going to say crime scene investigation I'm trying to figure out did this person actually commit suicide hang themselves or did their partner hang strangle them and then String them up and make it look like that. Well If they've been dead for a significant amount of time and then you know takes time to figure out how to sort of hoist somebody Up it's gonna be very hard to do you might have to try it several times because there are these weak ass prison Sheets then you tear one so you try it again so you finally get them sort of propped you know if he's been

dead long enough the levitity is gonna settle differently right and again his ear was all like swollen and everything right it didn't even look like his ear honestly I know it was just the angle yeah. It was all bizarre. But so this is a picture of his legs. There's no levity here whatsoever. None. That's strange. None. He did not die in an up down position.

That's how I would look at that. There's potentially something going on. Sorry. Behind his knee. Behind here. So if the levity is all settled on his backside then he died on his back and if it if you've flipped over if it was all settled on his front side then he would have died on his front side so would it look like a bruise kind of it's I didn't

get these are fairly graphic photos if you get there but yes it's it looks maroonish okay it just and it's splotchy too. It's not like a nice even, you know, I've got a tan or something like that. Cause again, this is just how blood settles due to gravity. Right. And the, your veins all give up the ghost and your everything just sort of settles, right. Yeah. It's just gravity at that point, but there's just nothing going on there. So all right, tied around the top of the bunk they told us. So I'm like, where, where where and if he tore it down from where shouldn't there be from that rung shouldn't be a dangly piece. But no, no, I mean, if he was hanging off of this, I can't imagine

you could hang off of that and to have your butt an inch off the ground unless you were hoisted tight up against that. But again, we should see there should be something there. Right. Again, I love they got the measuring tape out. You can see the purple handle like got the measuring tape. I know. And why would look at how they're measuring that it goes all the way around the bunk to the other side.

Yeah. I, this is, this is, this is like, this is one of the slot. I can't believe this like look at us investigating We have a measuring tape It's terrible peaches or whatever is up there It's it's terrible. So um All right, and I just want to point out. I'm gonna zoom in so that dangly piece all the way over um Over there you see I'm way over. Sorry way over here. Yeah, this does look

torn potentially so this is possibly a candidate for Where he was where he was torn off and yeah, so maybe I don't know but again We shouldn't be asking these questions. We shouldn't have to do this sort of post investigation This ought to be very completely articulated, but it's not. Okay. And as well, we also have to talk about the fact that on the front of his neck stretching around to the right, we saw those two ligatures. In around those two things. It also on the back side of his neck on the right side only you see this. bruising right here.

Which is kind of consistent with how it's more heavy-handed on the right and the front. Yeah that would mean if you if you were really pulling like I can't guarantee how it happened but I can guarantee you that more force was applied all the way around his right side and progressing all the way around his back. As well this Garrett or you know however he was strangled or however it happened came around like this and then it had to progress across his back This is inconsistent. If you have a slipknot Potentially, we haven't seen a single slipknot here where a slipknot would settle down tight Yeah, all these other ones would make a triangular shape with a knot up here. Oh, right, right that makes sense

You know, it would pull up towards wherever you are hanging from. And this progresses all the way across. So you have to imagine the force is pulling hard this way. Almost down. Almost. Yeah, almost across the back, maybe even down a tiny bit. You can see, is that what you mean by the settling? Like see how his back is right there? He's blood settled as if he were on his back. Again, you do you see all this, this is levitity up through here and you see it especially on this side up here as if he was down flat on the floor on his right side. That's what I would consider to be sort of consistent with that compared to this side where you would be on his back sort of, you know, but with this side down and that's why you see white on this side

and red on this side. But what we don't know is we don't know if these pictures are taken. I mean, presumably they're taken at the same time, because you're using this little case locator and scale, right? Right. And they're just putting that around on the body. Presumably, they're using the same camera as they're taking these pictures.

So I'm going to maybe these are contrast comparable, know, comparable. Right. I mean, yeah. Do we I mean, at this point, we don't even know that that's him necessarily. Well, there would be that, you know, trust some DNA analysis we don't. Nobody has any trust, which is why trust me, bro. Ain't gonna cut it. Okay. Yeah, that's what Sean is that do we even trust that these are legit photos no all caps and that's fair no no we really can't so again you know and then and then Patel said you know a suicide when you see one right and Bongino said I've seen the whole file you know he killed himself so I had to ask is this the file?

All right, so there was this other one we talked about earlier this other Nodded affair and I have to ask if if is it possible that that in that match? Kind of could be looks a little bit like that. Right. The next question we would have to ask is this is Prisons sheet material. I think you can see it tears relatively easily, right? It doesn't create big long tears like you would have with like a solid or material, just it tears like it's designed to tear.

The next question would be how much, how much force can you actually support coming or this is a fairly sharp bend to take so knots are failure points on fishing and climbing and things like that so that's a fairly sharp corner to have to take including the inside of that hole looks reasonably sharp so and then this is broke so the question is could you even wait and this just be something you would say oh we found we found we could wait up to 290 pounds on these sheets. See that's where Mythbusters comes in. I'm telling you. Yeah. Right. Yeah see somebody else said that too. Again, thank you.

Mythbusters. Yes. Yeah. All right. So I don't know. I don't know. I'm just trying to guess but none of this is consistent with tied, you know, came in, the, the, this cord was tied around the top of the bunk cause that's just sloppy. Cause there is not, there is no place to tie on the top of the bunk, right? Yeah. Which we just looked at here. There's, there is nowhere to tie to the top of the bunk. Is it solid metal?

I believe it is. It's not like a, it doesn't have any holes there. No, if it had holes, it would be it would have springs or something. And those would be potential weapons. So in a prison system, I'm going to guess, but we don't have an actual picture. But just the way all this stuff is sort of perched on here flat. I mean, I guess this is a big flat tray. So there really wasn't anywhere to tie around the top. So this is the only tie spot I can see.

Or this one that makes any sense. Maybe it was tied from multiple angles and places. Could be this could be a big BDSM thing we're looking at here. We don't know. All right. So this is from the Department of Justice had a report and we saw it earlier right where we read about like how they found the thing. This is, this is fascinating to me.

So what do we have here, Evie? This says the limited available video evidence says recorded video evidence for August 9th and 10th for the SHU area where Epstein was housed was only available from one prison security camera due to a malfunction, of course, of MCC's New York's digital video recorder system that occurred on July 29th, 2019. While the prison's cameras continued to provide live video feeds, recordings were made

for only about half of the cameras. MCC New York personnel discovered this failure on August 9th,, but it was not repaired until after Epstein's death. As detailed in this report, like many other BOP facilities, MCC New York had a history of security camera problems. The available recorded video footage from the one SHU camera captured a large part of the common area of the SHU and portions of the stairways leading to the different SHU tiers, including Epstein's cell tier. Thus, anyone entering or attempting to enter Epstein's SHU tier from the SHU common area

would have been picked up on that video camera or by that. So the biggest mistake you can make in a crime scene investigation is making an assumption. So the assumption you see being made here is, oh I know the cameras weren't working in his cell or anything, but there was a camera working that would have recorded somebody coming into that area from somewhere else. So we're making several assumptions. One, that the person had to come in from another area. It wasn't that there was another prisoner on that floor who was allowed to walk over the hallway. We have to make the assumption

that it wasn't one of the prison guards who knocked out their other prison guard friend, you know, with a roofie, and then did it themselves. We have to also assume something else, which is even more foundational and fundamental here, which is that the video cameras were recording properly. So on that front I just want to point out that Ehud Barak, the former PM of Israel, he founded a company called TOCA and technical documents reviewed by an ethical hacker proved

that TOCA's technology can alter both live and recorded video feeds all without leaving any forensics or telltale signs of a hack. Oh my god. Right? Wow. It leaves no digital fingerprints. In theory they say down there such tech can be abused. One could imagine video being manipulated too for whatever purposes and oh by the way Can I just point out that er who'd Barack? Yeah that guy seen leaving Epstein's path He sneaked he snuck into and out of Epstein's New York City brownstone all the time that who'd Barack That one just to be clear So the assumption that we can trust that the video feeds are exculpatory So the assumption that we can trust that the video feeds are exculpatory, you would have to very much get down into the weeds on this and do some exceedingly detailed forensics

on the video to see if it had been hacked into or not. And by the way, it's very difficult. You can't, from what I understand, you can't even tell with TOKUS technology, whether it's you've been hacked into or not this we would have to trust that the people who are using a tape measure are the same people who are gonna get this right I just want to point that out there so I'll point that out so he was going in there after he was found oh yeah for what? You have to ask what reason

because there's young girls in there. You see, he's a friend. He's you know, what we can say is Epstein had like like Dan Bongino said pre going into the administration. Epstein had this extraordinary clientele list, right? Yeah. This brownstone was given him by Les Wexner, you know, founder of Victoria's Secret. He was given tens, if not hundreds of millions by less Wexner you know founder of Victoria's Secret he was given tens if not hundreds of millions by less Wexner to manage right this is where all his wealth came from yeah so he was grant

so you know you know as people do they just give people brownstones worth you know eight nine figures however much this one's yes at any rate yes that and and and obviously Gillian Maxwell is of the daughter of Robert Maxwell, the very, very celebrated Mossad spy who was actually buried in Mount Olives, right? The Mount of Olives because he was that important. Like very few people get buried there. He did, right? So and of course, Ghislaine Maxwell's sister is currently head of technology for the WEF, right?

So, I guess she fell black sheep of the family or carrying on the family tradition. You'd be the judge, right? All right, so this is the final conclusion of that report from the DOJ. Okay, finally the medical examiner who performed the autopsy detailed for the Office of the Inspector General why Epstein's injuries were more consistent with and indicative of a suicide by hanging rather than a homicide by strangulation. Now hold up right there. More consistent with an indicative of a suicide by hanging rather than homicide by strangulation. We have the

lividities all wrong. We have the petechial hemorrhages, which is all wrong. We have the angle of the attack, which was all wrong. We have the lack of appropriate corresponding ligature marks. We have a bilateral unsymmetry of the wound patterns, more from the right than the left. All of this is highly wildly inconsistent with suicide by hanging.

The angle of the wound, the nature of the wound, that there's two wound patterns on the right, clearly. The levity, the petechia, I mean, I just go on and on. It's just, it's all wrong. Plus we have these unexplained contusions elsewhere on the body, all of that. Okay. The medical examiner also cited the absence of debris under Epstein's fingernails, marks on his hands, contusions to his knuckles or bruises on his body evidencing a struggle which would have been expected if Epstein's death had been a homicide by strangulation. Yes if he was if he was fully they didn't find any drugs or alcohol in his body they said so he wouldn't have been I mean that's an easy

way to strangle somebody obviously you drug them then you strangle them right so they can't really fight back I guess um but it does raise another possibility what if what if I'm Epstein wanted to commit suicide let me split the difference he wanted to commit suicide and they said we'd like that for you too so they helped facilitate that and so therefore you didn't put up any struggle. Oh interesting or maybe he just broken his mask on You know the crazy sleep oh, yeah, and they just cut off the flow of air and then and then String it strangulated him Marianne Norton says It was up there a little bit more, but that's okay.

The postman at the postman, she was responding to somebody, but she says he had dirt on everyone who is anyone much bigger than Trump. And that's why Bungino let it go. And I would say that's probably true. Yeah. So let's just review then we have these open questions, right? You know, why don't the literature marks match the supposed noose, right? That that's a rookie mistake. Like like the New York medical examiner said, oh, consistent. And we've even sketched badly the supposed news, right? It doesn't even remotely match, not with not forensic evidence.

None of it matches. None of it. I mean, like grade school level reasoning is just like broken. How do we account for three maybe four neck fractures if there is a missing piece from the hyoid bone? Like I suspect why wasn't standard suicide procedure followed at the MCC? Why was the suicide left up the designation left up to an ME? Not a proper detective, right? Why wasn't their lower limb levity and all what about all these other contusions? So I do want to point out very quickly now in the time we have left it. Look, this is well known medical legal aspects of asphyxia with reference to hanging.

Okay, this is well studied. Okay. Okay. People study this all the time. So we don't have to read this abstract, but this is I'm just saying look How do you determine what's what okay? So this is the normal things that you would this is what this is what it sounds like when non insane people are Conducting an actual investigation. All right a person may be murdered and the dead body suspended to simulate suicide

Look for signs of dragging to the place of suspension. When a dead body is suspended, the rope is usually tied first around the neck, then around the beam, branch of a tree, etc. The beam shows evidence of the rope having moved from below upwards as the body has been pulled up. In true suicidal hanging, the rope moves from above, downwards. Further, fibers from the rope may be found on the hands of the victim in suicidal hanging, but not in case of postmortem hanging. The rope should be examined for presence or absence of any paint similar to the one on the beam."

And it goes on and on from there. It's just like, okay, here are the things you have to sort of look at. You look at carefully which way is the rope moving? It It's all that right, but that's what it sounds like when normal people that's science right there. Yeah Normal investigative science sounds that's what it sounds like right? Mm-hmm I've seen the file is not signs. Okay, you know You know one when you see one is not this. This is a totally different thing But this is the important part from this review article They said that in yellow in case of strangulation the ligature mark in the neck will be continuous Circular and at or below the thyroid cartilage

Injuries to the skin muscle and deeper tissues fracture of the hyoid bone and laryngeal cartilage are common Oh in case of strangulation. In case of strangulation the ligature mark will be continuous circular and at or below the thyroid cartilage. Hmm. There it is. Fractures of the bones are common. Ah so this is actually where you would start seeing the particulars of this case. The angle of the of the of the ligature mark the fact that there were two Ligature marks clearly on the right side that we have a bruise on the back right side of the neck The fractures the various fractures all of that is highly consistent and this is just normal stuff, right anybody who's been around

homicide Investigations where strangulations happened particularly with a garret meaning a wire of some kind or a thin rope, that this is where you would start. Yeah. And based on what our government does, the FBI, et cetera, the CIA, I wouldn't put it past them to do something weird here. Right.

Right? We kill people, we unalive people in other governments. Yep. When we want to change the regime that they have. So believe me, we could pull it off if we really wanted to. Yeah. So I just wanted to get all this all this out in the open. And let me just say here, so look, what are the conclusions? First, the New York Medical Examiner made a huge error, if we can call it that, in ruling Epstein's wounds consistent with suicide. Huge error, just like rookie mistakes, like fire them call it that, in ruling Epstein's wounds consistent with suicide. Huge error.

Just like rookie mistakes, like fire them from their jobs, don't let them ever be involved in a crime scene investigation until they take remedial forensic education. And second, Epstein's wounds are most consistent with a strangulation or a homicide, as we've established here. I hope you'll agree with that. And that the story was covered up under Trump one. Remember bill Barr under Trump one said, Oh, it was a suicide. And then, um, then under Biden or I put that in quotes, cause I, we don't

know who was running the white house. That's a whole other story for another day. Um, but it was covered up under Biden and now again, under Trump too. So all I can tell you is that it is preposterous to think that, um, that, that we're going to be satisfied with a, you know, what's the aside when you see one and I've seen the file and just to round this out, I found this hysterical. We're going to close with this today. Let's listen in on, uh, talker and show.

Of course it's not a democracy. Of course the system is rigged. It's fake because no matter's fake. Because no matter who gets elected, no matter who gets elected, you get the same foreign policy, you get the same economic policy, and the Epstein videos remain secret. So like that just shows you that our system has no effect on the actual system. Wait, what are you talking about? I thought we could all sleep well at night now knowing that Epstein legitimately killed himself, right? What was that? Did that just come out?

Two guys that I really like, I mean, I love Bongino, but he's a friend of mine. But you weren't convinced by that? No. Why? I mean, just, I've dug into that and it's just so spooky. What's going on with that and how nobody, nobody, I mean, how do you charge a guy with sex trafficking when there are no, there's no end users that have been charged? Who did he traffic to? Well, that's a great question.

I don't know, you got me on that one. I mean, right? How do you charge them with that? If there's no, I mean, if that's where the trail starts, where does it end with? So I think there's just a lot more going on than the majority of people know about. What do you think that was? What do I think it was?

Yeah. I think it was a blackmail operation. What do you think it was? I think it was a blackmail operation run by the CIA and the Israeli Intel services and probably others. You know, French intelligence always has a hand in everything I've noticed. So probably them too, you know, but the usual, you know, darkest forces in the world colluding to make rich and powerful people obey their agenda.

I mean, look, though, I just I don't understand why nobody has come out on it. Nobody has come out on it. Nobody has come out on it, right? I mean, because if you paint the scenario, I mean, you get on a jet, maybe you're totally innocent. You don't know what's going on. Two hot women come out of the whatever, sewerage place, come out and one thing leads to another. Yes.

I mean, and then what happens? They go, Oh, we got you, you're on camera. And by the way, these girls are 15 or 16 or whatever the hell they were. Right. And, but I mean, it's yes, I mean, yes, for married guys, pretty fucked up that you're doing that. But I mean, it's's nothing new under the sun. So why wouldn't you just scream blackmail at the top of your lungs? Like, I didn't know this is what happened and just come clean on it. Why do you think? Because they're repeat customers. Yeah.

Because they're so deeply implicated that they can't actually get out of it. Yeah, maybe not. I don't know. I mean, there's also I think that's accurate. I think that's I think that's right. And so, you know, we consider the totality of the evidence here. I don't know what cash and Dan are up to, you know, either on one end, they completely honestly believe that this was just a suicide and they have access to information that they are for whatever reason not able to share with us, right? Because we don't have access to any of that information in the file that would suggest anything other than a homicidal strangulation. That's where the evidence leads currently. On the other end of the spectrum, they're lying and they know it, right? And so then we have to speculate, well, what could be so powerful that would cause them to completely repudiate who they were on the campaign trail before they came into power? What happens when you go into Washington DC that's so potent that you just completely

shift who you are from a moral integrity and ethical standpoint? And then now we have to begin to speculate what could those things be that are so vexing that just nobody comes clean like they said like everybody just sort of falls in line with like the stupid narrative. So I don't know what the answers are to all of that yet. But that's all the speculative side. But I can tell you that we are very convinced on this side of things that this is a homicidal strangulation until we get better evidence or something that really comports with the data we have. All right. So I think we're coming into the end here.

Evie. Sounds good. I was just going to see if you could go down in the comments, see if there's anything else. There's always such good stuff. We do read your comments. If we don't get to them on air, we do look at them after the show is over. So we welcome people's thoughts and ideas about what they think is happening. And also, please like and subscribe if you have enjoyed this video. I think that's what gives the algorithm some movement in getting this up there so more individuals can see it. So thank you for doing that. And I wanted to read something by a woman named Clarissa Pincolla-Estez and she caught my eye many, many years ago. She wrote a

book called Women Who Run With The Wolves, which is incredibly good. She is a really great writer and she happened to make, I think she might've gone a little, well, we all went in different pathways during COVID, but she wrote this in 2017 and I think it applies then as now. She says, my friends, do not lose heart. We were made for these times. I've heard from so many recently who are deeply and properly bewildered. They are concerned about the state of affairs in our world now. Ours is a time of almost daily astonishment and often righteous rage over the latest degradations of what matters most to civilized visionary people. And I'm going to skip to the end. One of the most

calming and powerful actions you can do to intervene in a stormy world is to stand up and show your soul. Soul on deck shines like gold in dark times. The light of the soul throws sparks, can send up flares, builds signal fires, causes proper matters to catch fire. To display the lantern of soul in shadowy times like these, to be fierce and to show mercy toward others, both are acts of immense bravery and greatest necessity. Struggling souls catch light from other souls who are fully lit and willing to show it. If you would help to calm the tumult, this is one of the strongest things you can do. There will be times when you feel discouraged.

I too have felt despair many times in my life, but I do not keep a chair for it. I will not entertain it. It is not allowed to eat from my plate. The reason is this, in my uttermost bones, I know something as do you. It is that there can be no despair when you remember why you came to earth,

who you serve and who sent you here. The good words we say and the good deeds we do are not ours. They are the words and deeds of the one who brought us here. In that spirit, I hope you will write this on your wall. When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe. There can be no doubt, but that is not what great ships are built for. Thank you.

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