Peak Prosperity - RFK Jr Terminates The Vaccine Panel, Media Freaks Out, LA Riots, And Europe’s Self-Destruction
Episode Date: June 12, 2025Today’s Signal Hour discusses ACIP vaccine panel termination, abominable ACIP practices and decisions, the LA riots, U.S. wealth inequality, democratic erosion, and Europe’s economic policies....
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Hello everyone and welcome to this Signal Hour.
We just started hot this time and we are good to go.
So remember the signal hour is where we find the signal in all the noise.
We have a really, really big show today.
It's going to take more than an hour.
Fair warning.
We're going to be talking about the ACIP meetings at the federal government, at the FDA.
If you don't know what ACIP is, we'll talk about that real quick.
We got to talk about our democracy a little bit more and we're gonna be talking
about the LA riots and who's we? Me, and you, here's the we, Evie and Chris. All right thanks
for joining us everybody we're glad to have you here on this beautiful afternoon Hope you're doing well wherever you are. Excellent. So, um, Evie. I am sweaty and hot. Okay, well. I am running around like a
crazy person today. How are you? Why is that? I don't know, there's just too much
to do and just juggling life. Living the dream. Okay, Alright, so let's get started then. Welcome to the Signal Hour.
We have to talk about this
ASIP thing here, which is
talking about just how bad
things really got with vaccines in the United States.
So, hey, this is for all
the parents out there who are
struggling with this decision right now.
Should I vaccinate? Should I not? We're going to go into
this. This may or may not get me canceled on
the Y-O-U-T-U-B-E because there are still sensitivities around this.
This exposes just how bad things have gotten. This is going to hit hard. And I know they
don't like being exposed. The they being demons, I think.
I think you're right, Chris.
So Evie, this is what happened right here. We had just announced,
James, that's Jack Weiler, I pulled up his tweet here at LifeBioMedGuru, good friend
of mine, and on Twitter he wrote this little piece right here, which is...
A clean sweep at quote rubber stamp ACIP, why Kennedy's overhaul was necessary to restore
scientific integrity. 17 out of 17 members of committee removed.
So that is the advisory committee on immunization practices. And so what that
is, is, is the FDA brings in outside experts, they're from Brown, they're from
Princeton, they're doctors, they work at the American Academy of Pediatrics. These are the
experts and they go to this committee and they say, should we put this on the
schedule? And they all kind of shrug and go, okay. And then they go, well, our, our,
listen, we, we just follow the advice of our outside experts. Okay. You know how
that goes, right? Yeah, I know how it goes. All right. But this was instant condemnation all
over the world. NBC News. Manufactured chaos. Kennedy Guts, CDC's vaccine panel of independent
experts. The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices helps the agency make recommendations
on who should get certain vaccines. Okay. Manufactured chaos.
So trust me, we're gonna get into this.
So for anybody watching this who's a new parent,
Pat, talking to you, that's from Nick.
So for everybody out there who's a new parent,
you have to watch this
because you have to make up your own mind.
You're gonna have to trust yourself.
And that's where we're at.
Now, listen, what did we learn in the whole COVID debacle?
We learned that experts can't be trusted, right?
Isn't that what we learned, Evie?
Yeah, I think that got that hit home pretty hard during COVID for sure.
Yeah.
Yep. I know for many of us, that's when we started to really wake up to what's happening.
The experts started saying really goofy stuff that was completely not supportable in any
way shape or form.
They'd say, oh, we have to make sure that everybody gets the COVID jab, even in people
who are otherwise healthy and young who faced zero risk from COVID itself.
And they could never articulate why that was true, except, oh, you wouldn't want to get
granny sick, but the shots didn't stop transmission. Oh, well, you wouldn't want to get granny sick, but the shots didn't stop transmission.
Oh, well, you wouldn't, you know, it's much, much worse if you have COVID than if you than
if you have the shot.
Like show me the data.
They didn't have the data.
They never did.
Well, it's it's crazy because I feel like they they did have the data, but they took
advantage of that period of time.
I wonder about this.
I think the
large, you know, Moderna and Pfizer, I think they had data that they hid, but they took
advantage of that, the chaos that was happening at the beginning of the pandemic, to allow
people to get lost in presumptions and not to come out and say succinctly, this is what's
happening.
They had data.
They hit it though.
But remember, the Pfizer trials showed, the trials themselves
showed when they first released him, 14 people died who had
the control, which was actual placebo control.
15 died who had the shot during their own trial period.
So didn't stop death, right?
And those numbers later went 14 to 21 when they were more honest because they hit a
couple. They didn't test if it stopped transmission but they came out
and said, oh this is gonna help us get the herd immunity. Well how do you get to
herd immunity if it doesn't stop transmission? You can't make the claim.
Yeah, it was all bollocksed. And then they didn't track all sorts of serious adverse
events. Anyway, that's the process.
So here we are now.
And we see stuff like this.
We see Annie Sparrow saying, oh, no, dangerous move.
And look, children will pay a deadly price
for this benighted move, says Annie Sparrow on Twitter.
Won't anybody think of the children?
Right?
Evie, how about Dr. Tom Frieden? Look
at that smiling face. Wouldn't you trust that doctor? You'd have to trust this doctor. Look
at that. He's got a blue checkmark. He's Dr. Tom.
Dr. Tom says, 17 dedicated doctors, pediatricians, scientists and parents who served on the Advisory
Committee of Immunization Practices were just fired by Secretary Kennedy based on false claims of conflicts of interest.
A dangerous and unprecedented action that makes our families less safe.
Yeah, I totally disagree.
False claims of conflicts of interest.
No, they tell us that they're conflicted.
They're not false. They're true claims.
Yeah, they are true claims.
They're wrapped up in some other true claims. Yeah, they are true claims. They're
wrapped up in some other shell game here. Yep. Yep. ACIP has long been a model for the
world of transparent fact based guidance with rigorous reviews of vaccine safety and effectiveness.
Make no mistake, politicizing the ACIP as Secretary Kennedy is doing, will undermine public trust under the guise of improving it."
So let's talk about some of this super-duper fact-based, rigorous stuff, okay? And we're
going to start here. Remember, remember this here, this is a golden oldie. Let's go back to this one.
We're hearing now from New Engl editor and editor in chief
FDA panel members expert
guy, editor in chief of t
Rubin talking about here
about why they approved g
covid Children aged 5 to learn about how safe the vaccine is unless you start
giving it. Yeah, that's just the way it goes.
That's how we found out about rare complications of other vaccines like the
rotavirus vaccine. And I,
I never going to learn about how safe the vaccine is unless you start giving it.
Yeah, that's just the way it goes.
We're never going to learn about how safe a vaccine is until we start giving it. You know, that's just the way it goes. We're never going to learn about how safe a vaccine is until we start giving it.
Remember, they approved the rotavirus vaccine and then it wasn't until they approved it
that they found out that it was causing mass problems and killing kids and causing intersusception
of their small intestines.
However, a vaccine causes that.
I gave my daughter that.
But then they had to pull it, right?
It's just like, oh, thalidomide,
how are you ever gonna know that thalidomide is bad
unless you prove it?
This is literally, this is the fact-based rigorous,
Dr. Tom Frieden, oh no,
fact-based guidance, rigorous reviews.
Here's your rigorous review.
We're never going to learn about how fake this vaccine is
unless you start giving it.
Yeah, that's just the way it goes.
That's how.
I'm not kidding.
No, seriously, I just said it.
I don't know if you heard me. I gave my daughter
the rotavirus one without realizing it.
But how many of us as parents
didn't know any different
weren't awake and
got pushed into this crap. I'm
I'm frankly I'm really pissed. Well we should be. This is making me angry. What people think
because you hear the Dr. Tom Frieden's and Annie Sparrows and NBC saying oh
this is terrible these these are our world-leading experts fact-based
rigorous. What I want is rigorous is I want to I want to be able to ask Dr.
Rubin and say okay say, okay, so
Here's some facts. How many of these five to eleven year olds? What is the risk that they face from COVID?
What would be the benefit of getting this how many of these children are likely to be injured?
Tell me what the consequences would be there would be this whole fact-based conversation
I guarantee you he couldn't answer a single one of those questions. He's just going
Pew pew shooting from the hip, you you know just like backpedaling and it's that bad it's that bad.
That's just the way it goes okay wow how about um oh this will be fun and you
just don't all you have to read is this stuff in yellow. Okay, because I but anyway, all right
Doctors for America DFA condemns RFK juniors gutting of Advisory Committee for immunization
practices
So, okay doctors for me. I'm doctors doctors for America
Maybe we should just ask a couple questions. Who are these people? Okay, so here they are.
Here's the little statement. Doctors for America immediate release. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Hold up. What? Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. First thing I'm going to do is I'm going to say
who are the donors and oh, that content's password protected. Well, hold on. Hold on.
They have an address. Let me look up their address.
It's a P.O. box in D.C.
Whoa.
Really?
Okay.
Not sus at all.
Doctors for America is a P.O. box who password protects who their donors are.
I'm telling you, these people are monsters.
They are awful. They are awful. They're just
nasty, terrible, no good people. We've just been had. We've just been had.
Okay. That's what happened.
But speaking of people who had us. Bernie is predictably bad on this subject.
Yes, he is. Sanders, WarrensK Junior's purge of vaccine experts will
lead to preventable illness and death. This is a continuation of Trump and Kennedy's dangerous
war on science, said Bernie Sanders. It cannot stand. I can hear him like pounding the table.
Yeah, he'll have the hands of the hands, which move like he's got mittens on them all the time. By the way, just editorially
Bernie just hasn't been the same since his black eye
Just saying did he really have that
When was this and they said he got stitches after a run-in with a glass
Shower door. I'm like, yeah full head of steam run-in was even like
Practicing tackling and he missed his tackle and ran into
Look at that. Look at that. Yeah, but that happens
I one time they were busy like cleaning the glass door of a storefront and I actually walked into it
It was so transparent. Yeah, perfect. Yeah, sometimes you don't see those things just saying um, yes
But they usually shower doors are in a place you would expect a door. Yeah, that's true. You know, more than anyway.
So so moving on. Forget Bernie.
So this is Senator Patty Murray. We've pulled her up before.
She is a blue wave wonder of of insanity.
Oh, yeah. What does she have to say?
Let's see. An outspoken vaccine conspiracy theorists
just fired every last member of CDC's vaccine ASAP, ASIP or whatever.
RFK Jr. is paving the way to reshape vaccine policy based not on decades of
science but on his own unhinged fanaticism. This is unprecedented and
unthinkably dangerous. I can hear her pounding the table too.
You can, you can, but unhinged, so first off you have to interpret this with the
confession by projection thing. So obviously this, but unhinged, so first off, you have to interpret this with the confession
by projection thing. So obviously this is an unhinged, fanatical woman who does unthinkably
dangerous, unprecedented things. Right? That's what we know about Patty.
That is what we know about Patty.
But the second thing we'll notice is that they have, so if this is the most well studied,
if these are the safest, most well-studied things ever,
these vaccines, then it would be no problem
to just destroy Kennedy with data.
Right.
You would just bring out the data.
You would say, oh, Patty would say,
I had my staffer look into it,
took three seconds because it's that well-known.
Here are the 45 things that prove studies
that prove our case.
These are great.
Nope, this is emotionally leading language.
This is what you see in a cult, right?
You how dare you accuse our cults leader of.
Sexual immorality, sexual immorality and materialism.
He's about the opposite of those things.
You can tell because that Rolls Royce has not been replaced in three years.
You know, I know I'm saying, I mean, this is you can tell them by your language here.
So look at this language is just like, oh, now it's unhinged. It's unprecedented. It's unthinkable.
Wow.
Dangerous, right? I'm carrying on the New York Times.
I think you want to get you want to say it. I don't think there's any way to put this other
than saying that this is an unmitigated public health disaster, said Dr. Sean O'Leary.
But he's the chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics.
Infectious disease committee for the AAP, right? The American Academy of Pediatrics.
So would this be the time then that some other health horrifying thing happens, like another
scam-demic
or plandemic and then all of a sudden they get to blame it on this. Oh of course.
You know it would probably go that way. These people are such monsters like
you wait till we get to the end of this segment. This is gonna be, this is
gonna be tough so fair warning everybody. By the way, you know how we roll. The AAP,
it sounds so official, sounds so augAP, it sounds so official.
Sounds so August, it sounds so amazing.
You would want your child seen by somebody
from the American Academy of Pediatrics
because what they care about, obviously,
is their donor role.
This is the main donors to the AAP.
Moderna?
Yeah.
Abbott, Merck, that's a, Abbott is a, um, formula company.
Sure. President's circle, 50,000 and above.
Oh my gosh. Right.
Paragon Nutrition.
Look at those, look at those weak ass patrons down there.
Only 25 to 50 grand. Eli Lilly.
Oh, I know. Glaxo Smith Klein.
Oh, look at them. They just get a little,
they just get a little thing down there.
Underline you want,
you want to be up there with the big Sanofis and the Roche group in the Roche
and the Mercs. You got it. You're going to have to pony up here.
That's who these people are. Right. Okay.
So this is an unmitigated public health disaster.
So here's something I want to focus in on. Um,
we're going to do something that's really terrifying right now. We're gonna
actually go listen to one of these ACIP meetings and this is the one in 2018
when they were giving a blanket and a fully 100% no dissenting votes, 17 out of
17 voted to approve the hep B vaccine for infants, newborn infants.
This is the actual meeting where it had and I want you to listen to the substance of the
quality of the arguments that they're giving.
We're listening for data, pushback, raucous debate of experts coming to a full decision.
Okay, this is gonna be a lot of fun.
This is actually the ASIP meeting from February of 20.
This is before they approved it.
But once they approved it,
this is when they put it on the infant schedule.
Okay, because they were already giving this.
I know they were.
They were, but this is,
but they had to reformulate it
and then they put it actually on the infant schedule.
So it's actually on it now. Okay. Here we go.
Any comment on using this vaccine at the same time with other adjuvanted vaccines?
We have no data to make a recommendation one way or the other.
Well, that's a good start right there. Do we have anything, you know,
if we want to give this with other adjuvants?
The adjuvants, so for people who don't know, you have the vaccine component itself, the
antigen, and then they have these things called adjuvants, which are things that inflame your
immune system to start attacking stuff.
And there's a lot of argument as to whether those are the actual bad boys or girls in
this story.
And then you sometimes have preservatives.
The Marisol would be an example of a preservative
that also performs as an adjuvant,
because when you give mercury to your body,
it's like, I hate this stuff, and it starts attacking it.
So they're saying here, our first question is like,
do we have any data to suggest that
putting this with other adjuvanted,
like if we put these in combo.
So anything bad happen? What might happen?
And the answer was this vaccine at the same time with other adjuvanted vaccines.
We have no data to make a recommendation one way or the other.
Do you have any ideas why that would come with a big smile?
But like why?
I don't know.
One of the more deeply embarrassing moments.
You'd think so.
Like somebody's asking just a simple question like how certain are we that these Pinto's
won't explode when their rear bumpers are lightly tapped?
How do we know that this gun won't just explode in the hands of the people?
Right. They're my goodness. Right.
So that's how they start.
She doesn't seem to care that they don't have any data.
It's something to laugh about, smile about.
But you can tell she's a serious person because she's got all those well-earned
metals and ribbons.
OK. So just so you just to sort of put this in context of other vaccines,
whilst preclinical studies were not
done using these vaccines simultaneously, are-
So while preclinical studies were not done.
We're not done.
Using these together.
We're not done using any of these things
in combination together, OK?
General approach to immunizations
is that they should be given, they
can be given at the same time in different limbs.
Oh, you see, you just.
Well, our approach is we haven't actually tested them together, but if you put them in different limbs, what even is that?
Like you should be laughed at.
This is so it is as bad as it appears.
They're saying we have no data as to whether
giving all of these shots at once, which went from three or something when I was a baby
to whatever it is 7296 hike, whatever the number is now, right? They have no data on
what happens when you give them together. But she said, but our approach is, you know,
we give them in different limbs. I'm not kidding. That is literally-
Their logic is awful.
It's not even logic.
I can't believe this.
What even is this?
All these people, it's dangerous.
How could we get rid of this expertise?
Look at this brain trust we're losing.
Oh my God.
Dr. Hunter.
By the way, take note, that's Amanda Cohn, right?
We'll get back to Amanda in just a second.
Multiple adjuvanted vaccines used in Europe or other markets.
That's a word. Do you want to comment? Not to my knowledge.
Okay.
Okay.
He's like, does Europe use these all these things in combination? Crickets.
Nothing. Not to my large. Okay.
I think unless there's any further discussion, we will take a vote on this recommendation.
I want to remind everyone to please check your voting whatever machine thing. and I don't know what it is voting is open.
Thank you very much. So the voting is completed and it is unanimous to support
this recommendation. I want to thank you all. Does anybody have any comments they
wish to make about their vote? So just a slight reservation. That's it that's the
whole process that's it hundred percent. That's it. That's the whole process. That's it. 100 percent.
That was the robustness of the debate.
Really? They didn't talk about this at another meeting or something.
That's it. That's the whole meeting.
This was all they did.
That's it. You can see they all get there and it's all very serious.
You have your little name placards and they have
these big folders and binders and people flip through them like they're doing something.
Then they all vote on their little voting thing. um what um what is this thing they all press yes um so that's it oh my god
so now when your doctor tries to press you and they will when you have a baby and you're in the
hospital they're going to press you hard they'll probably send the nurse in first no they'll press
you hard because i you you saw I still had those those sheets.
I kept them. I was so it was so terrorizing to go in there and be forced. I actually found
them in my things from like, yeah, 18 years ago or 20 years ago. They'll say, oh, you
have to get this thing. You're gonna have to get this thing. The information sheet.
You ask a question like, can you show me the data? Like, oh, no, no, no, no. This has been reviewed by experts.
This is what they're referring to
if they even have that in their back pocket.
Mostly they just like, they have no effing idea whatsoever
what the actual issues are.
Okay, so.
Right.
So that's that.
By the way, this is that Dr. Amanda Cohn, right?
And by the way, it's so terrible that, you know,
Kennedy let all these people go
because what are they gonna do?
Oh, that's right, she got a job right away.
She is now head of North American Medical New Products.
I hope those products aren't voting machines
because she apparently doesn't know how technology works.
That's her and remember, she's the one who said,
just to sort of put this in context of
other vaccines, whilst preclinical studies were not done.
Preclinical studies were not done.
Preclinical studies, that's the study you do before you put it in a human, particularly
an infant.
While those studies were not done, yeah, our general approach is, you know, you put them in different umlims.
Oh, by the way, P.S. for anybody that's listening right now, do hit that like button on our channel
because that way we can get this message to more people, more parents, people that need this
information that are about to have a brand new baby have not seen this or heard about it because it gets totally throttled and censored on these
platforms so please go ahead and do that.
And by the way we got some great comments going here I agree with this one.
A wicked and pathetic display of atrophy and not speaking up also known as
cowardice and go along to get along says Daniel Edwards. Hey Dan. The poison injected into one limb won't interact with the poison we injected
into the other limb. When you get bit by two different snakes make sure they
choose different limbs. We're gonna laugh because otherwise it's bad. Alright so very quickly
Dr. Andrew Wakefield did these studies and he lost his job and they
pilloried him and he just got attacked viciously.
He didn't ever put out a study that said that the MMR vaccine causes autism.
He was a gastroenterologist, dealt with gut issues and noted that there were a lot of
children when they got the MMR would have these gut issues and that's what he was studying.
And somebody else had noted, oh, by the way,
those same gut issues do show up in people with autism.
And he said, maybe somebody should look at this,
just like scientists do.
But what he noted was MMR leads to certain gut issues.
But they already knew inside the machine
that that was a sign to tell you
that this was gonna lead to autism.
And so that was too close of a connection.
He gets trashed, okay?
So when you hear about him,
you may only be aware of the propaganda
and the trashing that you've been fed.
I trust, I ensure you that when you read
about how it actually unfolded,
the machinery he was up against,
that this man behaved honorably and did every,
he was very scientific and he will be completely vindicated
in the history of time.
But here he is talking about something called the Simpsonwood scandal.
Simpsonwood is a, was, it's all been bulldozed, but it was a conference center.
And so a bunch of FDA people and CDC people got together with industry people
because they found early on something very bad, and here we go.
So this is just Andy explaining all that. Simpson was effectively was a secret, a highly secret meeting between representatives of
federal agencies and vaccine experts to cover up the fact that they had discovered a highly
significant link between exposure to thimerosal in the hepatitis B vaccine
and autism.
And the way in which they did that was to simply exclude
those children, the comparison group who had received
no thimerosal, they were not vaccinated early in life
on the first day or first 24 hours of life.
The essential thing is that here there was an
opportunity and they did do a Vax unvaxed study, a comparison of those who receive the thiamarisol
containing vaccine versus those who did not. And there was a sevenfold increased risk of autism
in those who received the vaccine. This was desperate. It was not only a threat to the vaccine, but more concern to the authorities,
to the vaccine manufacturers, to the regulators. It was a threat to them. It was a threat to
their credibility. They had simply fallen asleep at the switch. And this was catastrophic,
absolutely catastrophic. And what they did then was to
fudge the data, to take out the comparison unvaccinated group and to present the data
as saying that there is no link between thimerosal and autism. But then they went on obviously
to remove it slowly, recommendations, it should have come out immediately from that point, but thousands, millions more
children were put at risk of serious permanent neurological injury in the form of autism
and related disorders. And it was an absolute tragedy. And it was all done not to protect
the children. This is the key point. It was done to protect the reputations and the credibility of the vaccine regulators. And that is utterly
appalling.
They're demons.
They're demons, right?
They're demons.
And by the way, Kennedy said that he has firsthand accounts from somebody who was in that meeting
at the Simpsonwood hearing about this and knew that his own children or child was about
to be going in for a wellness check to get get injected and he raced out of the thing
was overheard in the hallway calling his wife saying don't don't get our kid vaccinated
don't get our kid vaccinated and then went back in the room and conspired with everybody
to cover this up for the next decade. That's how awful these people are. Okay. Oh my god. That's how awful these
Simpson. And by the way, Dr. Sean O'Leary who was that guy who works
for that highly highly conflicted thing, here he is in August 22, like oh he's
gonna be part of this you know ACIP thing, but yeah this Sean O'Leary here.
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So some names on here. Dr. Paul off it there. Oh
Stanley plotkin, right? Every name on here is a name everybody needs to
Memorize because they're all monsters really awful people really awful when we're done with this segment
Irretrievably damaged, I hope, because their
dedication is not to science, dedication is not to health. It's to reputation, it's to money,
it's to getting the next job, as global head of whatever. It's about them, okay? It's about them
and their ego and their needs. They'll take care of their own children if they have to,
but when it comes to your kids, they're going to just... They don't care. They don't care. They're
going to just keep putting this stuff out. So let me back that up a little bit. So,
do you remember this, Evie? We've talked about this, but we have to go back in this again.
Yeah. Pharmaceutical company Wyeth received notice of the deaths of 11 infants in 1979 in Tennessee.
All the infants died from sudden infant death syndrome,
or SIDS, and had received the same dose of the DTP,
or the Deteriorated Tetanus Pertussis vaccine,
from the same batch around the same time.
Oh no, what do you do?
What do you do?
What do you do?
You sound the alarm.
Yeah, you sound the alarm.
Wouldn't you?
That's what they did.
Wyatt sounded the alarm and
said, oh, this is terrible. We had a bad batch and we're going to help these families recover
and make sure that they pull all the rest of that batch off the market. If you can recover,
you can't. That's what they did. Oh no, that's not what they did. Oh no. What they did instead
is they say, after the reporting of the CID cases in Tennessee,
we discussed the merits of limiting distribution of a large number of vials from a single lot
to a single state.
So they wanted to avoid death clustering.
So all they did in the future was they just broke all their lots up and sent them to different
places.
That way when babies died, hopefully it was 11 babies in 11 different states instead of
11 in one city.
So it would be that much harder to track everything. And by the way, Alan Bernstein, there he is.
There's that guy that you want to know what a demon looks like. Everybody who's related
to this guy, you are literally related to a monster, a nasty, awful human being and everybody
who worked with him on the executive advisory committee to agree that the important thing here was to break up the lot so that you wouldn't have death clustering
that could be detected. That's the important thing here.
Look at that. And down here, it's telling them how to do it, how to go about averting any detection,
basically. Yeah. And it's all such dry language, right? You have your allocation of stock to
distribution centers designated by lot and off it goes. By the way, Wyeth is now a wholly Yeah, that's all such dry language, right? You have your allocation of stock to distribution
centers designated by lot and off it goes. By the way, why is now a wholly owned subsidiary
of Pfizer since 2009. So if you want to know where they ended up,
Pfizer gobbled them up. Yep. All right. That's dark. That is dark.
It doesn't get any darker than this though. Stanley Plotkin, remember he's the, he is the godfather
of vaccines. He's the lead author on that book that Margie, Maggie, Margie was all excited
about, right? Yeah. So let's listen. So he was deposed by Aaron Seary and Aaron, like
2018, 19, I forget when, but um, Aaron Seary, you listen to this. So this is a lawyer expertly
picking somebody apart who knows what the F he's talking about.
So, yeah, this is this is it.
Have you ever used orphans to study an experimental vaccine?
Yes.
Have you ever used the mentally handicapped to study an experimental vaccine?
handicapped to study an experimental vaccine? I don't recollect ever doing studies in mentally handicapped individuals.
At the time in the 1960s, it was not an uncommon practice.
I don't recall using mentally handicapped but in the 60s...
That was not uncommon.
It wasn't uncommon.
Yeah but this is Aaron Seary. He doesn't ask a question that he hasn't like got both barrels looted.
Yeah.
theory, he doesn't ask a question that he hasn't like got both barrels loaded. Yeah.
There's an article entitled attenuation of RA273 rubella virus in WI38 human diploid
cells.
Are you familiar with that article?
Yes.
In that article, one of the things that says is 13 is one of the things that says is 13, is one of the things it says, is 13 seronegative mentally retarded children
were given R8-27-3 vaccine.
Okay, well, then that's, in that case, that's what I did.
Okay.
Did you hear that?
Whoa.
That's bad.
I don't recall that.
How do you not remember specifically using experimenting on retarded gets mentally retarded
children?
How do you do?
I just, you know, I did so many bad things.
I've just, that one must have slipped my mind.
So put me, help me imagine this.
So you're a parent with a mentally handicapped child
or a mentally challenged person.
They've been given over to an institution.
Even better.
And then you have a captive audience of children who theoretically are metabolically still
kids.
So, but they can't complain.
Nobody's really watching out for them.
They can't do anything about it.
They can't do anything and there's no informed consent.
You have to you want to experiment on them because these things often
don't go well. Right. And if they die, oh well, that's awful. Awful is one word. I'm
just speechless. Have you ever expressed that it's better to perform experiments and those less likely to be able to contribute to society such as
children with handicapped than with children without or adults without
handicapped? I don't remember specifically but it's possible. Do you
remember ever writing to the editor of Ethics on Human Experimentation?
I don't remember specifically, but I may well have. Do you recognize this letter
you wrote to the editor? Yes. Okay. Did you write this letter? Yes. Okay.
This is one of the things you wrote.
The question is whether we are to have experiments performed on fully functioning adults and on children who are potentially
contributors to society or to perform initial studies in children and adults who are human in form but not in social potential?
Yes.
It may be objected that this question
implies a Nazi philosophy, but I do not
think that it is difficult to distinguish
non-functioning persons from members
of ethnic, racial, economic, or other groups.
Mm-hmm.
OK. All right, there's your basic eugenics argument, right?
Which is like, listen, I know it sounds a little Nazi-ish, but I'm not differentiating
based on race or religion.
I'm just using mentally retarded children because they're not really ever going to really
contribute to society.
So that's different, right?
This is the godfather of vaccine.
So everybody who's out there, oh, this is dangerous. This is awful. This is terrible. This is who they the godfather vaccine. So everybody's out there. Oh, this is
dangerous. This is awful. This is terrible. This is who they're defending
100%. Right. This is what they believe in all those crazy ladies and all those
people. Yeah. We talked about earlier in this. Yes. That is exactly who they're
backing up. Yep. Not not you. Not me. Not our children. No, they don't care. No, not really. No, no.
And it's this it is.
B has it. It's eugenics, right?
It is eugenics.
And this should be against the law right here.
It just went underground, didn't it?
Well, not just like this is like full stop.
This is you can't historically can't just say, say, oh well that was then, you know?
That was then.
Can't we just let bygones be bygones because that was then.
Our ethics have clearly evolved.
No they haven't.
They still put untested stuff because, and you saw it, they just say it out loud, Dr.
Rubin, you know, we'll never really know how safe this is for kids until we start giving
it.
Right?
This is, this is for kids and still we start giving it. Right. This is this is where
it came from. So this is the seed of this whole movement starts with this thinking right here.
Yeah. Yeah. And this is why they're so scared of RFK Jr. Yep. Because he's going to get to the
bottom of this, I hope. Well, so so now let's take it specifically to the hep B vaccine. This is
Stanley Plotkin's deposition. You depo some of it under here. We
because we're going to li
is a little excerpt from
I took of a document dr S
is really the godfather o
The uh the textbook for m
called Plotkin's vaccines
committee, the gavel th is the plucking gavel.
He's invented like six vaccines.
And in a deposition that I had the opportunity to have with him, I went through this with
him with regards to recombivax HB and how it's something, isn't it problematic that
you can only access causation with a proper clinical trial, but then you let these vaccine get licensed without a proper clinical trial.
It's not problematic please play the video.
Dr, can you testify that there are 2 happy vaccines in the market 1 by Glaxo G. S. K. that's and the other 1.
Is by Merck recombombivax HB, right?
Yes.
This is the product, the manufacturer insert
for Recombivax HB, correct?
Yes.
And the clinical trial experience would be found
in section 6.1, correct?
Yes.
Okay.
In section 6.1, when you look at the clinical trials
that were done pre-licensure for Comvax HB,
how long does it say that safety was monitored
after each dose?
Five days.
Is five days long enough to detect an autoimmune issue?
Five days.
And I guarantee you they had some preclinical data maybe done on infirm children in some
other country where they knew that seven days you start detecting it's too much.
So five days, five, how do you pick five?
How do you say five days is the right number of days to look for the long term effects
of giving a known neurologically toxic adjuvant to a baby whose whole nervous system is still
developing.
How do you decide five days?
Who picked five days?
Where does five days come from?
Right?
That would be interesting to know, wouldn't it?
Five days.
SIDS happens right around a week, I think.
No, it's five days long.
Doesn't it?
Excuse me.
SIDS, when it happens, happens right around a week sometimes, doesn't it?
No, it's between months two and four, but that's when kids tend to get most of their shots anyway.
Oh, okay.
But it, but it all, SIDS almost invariably happens in the next week after, not the week before the well child visit.
Right.
Almost invariably.
Right.
Like, like the sig, the signal on that is, is sharp. It's ridiculous and sharp. Right. Variably. Right. Like the signal on that is sharp. Ridiculous and sharp.
Anyway. Not enough to detect any neurological disorder that arose from the vaccine after five
days. No. There is no control group, correct? It does not mention any control group. No.
If you turn to section 6.2, under immune system disorders, does it say that there were reports
of hypersensitive reactions including anaphylactic, anaphylactic reactions, bronchospasms and
uticaria having been reported within the first few hours after vaccination?
Yes.
Have there been reports of
hypersensitivity syndrome? Yes, that's what it states. Does it report of arthritis? It is mentioned.
It also reports autoimmune diseases including systemic lupus, erythematosies, lupus-like syndrome, vasculitis,
there have been reports of Guillain-Barre syndrome, as well as multiple sclerosis,
exacerbation of multiple sclerosis,
myelitis, including transverse myelitis, seizure,
febrile seizure,
peripheral neuropathy, including veils palsy, muscle weakness,
high, high, pathesia and encephalitis.
Correct?
Ah, correct.
These are, uh, events that are reported after vaccination.
And as we've just, we've just discussed in order to establish whether it's
causal between the vaccine and the condition, you need a randomly randomized placebo controlled
study. But that was not done for this hepatitis B vaccine before licensure, was it?
No. There you go. Okay. So do you think like when you're in, you have your newborn and oh my gosh,
you're a new dad, a new mom, you're like, oh. You're vulnerable.
You're vulnerable.
And they come in and go, oh, we're going to give you the Hep B vaccine.
And you just go, wait, why?
And they go, what are you some kind of monster?
Right?
What is wrong with you?
And you say, but wait, Hep B is communicated by dirty needles and unsafe sex with somebody
who's infected.
Neither of those things really apply to my baby.
Okay.
And so I assess a zero risk.
You want to tell me who's going to pay
for that transverse myelitis when it shows up?
Who's going to pay for the lifetime of erythromosis
or any of these other things?
Like the risks are way out here.
Cause if they happen, they're really bad.
They're really bad and painful and awful.
Like you wouldn't want that for your children.
And if they were doing true informed consent,
the nurse would show up or the doctor and they would say, Hey, listen,
you're the risks. Your baby might end up with Guillain-Barre, Bell's palsy,
you know, dead, whatever. However,
we're going to protect it against dirty needles and unprotected sex.
And you might go, how about no? They would just say, cool, good choice.
Right.
Because that's the only risks too.
Exactly. Right. They inflate the risks too. Exactly.
Yeah.
They're not doctors and nurses in this context.
They are vaccine pushers.
And I think I know why.
Vaccines are loss leaders for these pharma companies.
Because once you give enough vaccines,
these children buy a lot of other products downstream.
Skin creams, antibiotics, you name it, right?
So that is the game.
Okay, we don't have to read all of this,
but Aaron Seary had a really nice thread
and he just pointed out that it was just recently
after all of that, after he pushed Stanley Plotkin,
he came out with a New England Journal of Medicine article
where he said, amazingly, after decades of Plotkin
and his vaccinologist disciples insisting vaccines are the most well-studied
products on the planet, they just penned an article
where they said, quote, pre-licensure clinical trials
have limited sample sizes and follow-up durations,
which is a fancy scientific way of saying,
we didn't actually study these things.
We just made them up and injected them,
while shaming everybody and even causing doctors to lose their licenses and having putting enough pressure that
pediatricians will fire your child as a client, as a, as a patient, if they don't
follow exactly the schedule that you just saw on that ASAP meeting.
That is the whole game.
That is the scam.
That is the whole thing.
No, it is.
There it is.
It's awful.
There it is.
They refuse treatment.
They refuse to give treatment as care providers supposedly. Yeah. Doing no harm which is what the
oath they took was about. Listen it's possible that that unbalanced vaccines are all that in a
bag of sliced bread. But we don't know. No pre-licensure studies have been done, not individually and not in combination.
So we don't know.
But what we do know is American children
are the most metabolically distressed.
We have the highest levels of autism
exploding all over the place.
Who knows why that is?
We don't know, could be SSRIs in the womb.
It could be microplastics in the air,
or it could be these vaccines,
or it could be all of those together.
We don't know, but we're not studying it because we don't really wanna know because there's a company in the air, or it could be these vaccines, or it could be all of those together. We don't know, but we're not studying it,
because we don't really wanna know,
because there's a company in the back end
of every one of those things making more money
following that practice than fixing it and finding out.
That's right, that's right.
And it's easier to keep this train rolling
than to stop it and ask the questions.
Somebody in the chat was saying that they could cry
and I absolutely feel that too.
I see it on your face, yeah.
I just, I can't believe that people would do this
to other humans, it's just, it's so gross.
And to babies too, do you know what I mean?
Like these tiny little humans that are just waking up
to the world who need to be welcomed
and like soothed and comforted. I fought against pediatricians myself and I,
I know like all the things I was told that are wrong, like co-sleeping,
you shouldn't co-sleep and I was nursing. So I did.
And I did it against the doctor saying that I should.
And I did it because it felt right not to have my child like in a cold dark room
by themselves. Like that didn't sit right with me, but I got I got shamed for that. And I carry that to that pain of that, you know,
you're trying to do what's right. You don't know, because you've never been a parent before.
Everybody's a parent for the first time when they have their first child. Doesn't matter
how educated you are, or how old you are. Everybody arrives there not knowing. Here's
the thing that you shouldn't have to fight against experts who are doing the
wrong things, even though it's their job not to be that way.
It's like, what, I just bought a new car and I take it in for a tune up and what, I have
to go in and fight my way through the reception to get into the bay to make sure that the
mechanic isn't pouring sugar into the gas tank?
No, you shouldn't.
No, they should know not to do that. Yeah. Right. I shouldn't have to know that. Right. I shouldn't have to go
and check the torque of every bolt of everything they service because you know, that's informed
consent. No, no, the whole thing's broken. Our experts have failed us, failed us comprehensively.
And now they're screaming bloody murder about it. And by the way, remember that, you know, he was saying, what about section six
one? What about section six two?
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
Wait till section six, six, six.
Well said.
Correct.
Well said. And yeah, so at any rate, Evie.
Yeah.
Jerome Adams, former Surgeon General. Remember, he's the guy famously who folded up the
naloxone t-shirt and turned it into a mask. Oh yeah. Yeah. So you can save yourself from a
respiratory virus with a naloxone t-shirt scrubbed around your face. Anyway, that's Jerome Adams.
What a genius. Look at him standing here. For decades, ACIP's independent evidence-based
recommendations have saved countless lives by guiding vaccine
policy with transparency and scientific rigor.
Their expertise is critical to informed decision-making.
Their expertise?
Well, we just saw their expertise, right?
We just saw their expertise.
And by the way, I responded right back to him.
Say it in your voice.
You should say it. Oh, I said, hey, Jerome, can you please provide us with the strict
scientific evidence based rationale for injecting newborns with the hep B vaccine?
It should be easy with all those evidence based ACIP recordings to draw upon.
Well, wait, of course, that was a trick question because I just showed you the ACIP
meeting where they they they said that.
And by the way, wow, I've shown this before.
I'm gonna show it again,
because this is how important this is.
In Miller et al in 2011,
they were assessing 2009 infant mortality rates
for how many doses that you have given across 30 nations.
So this is 30 countries.
And so it's a big sample size.
And you find that some nations give more vaccine
doses. The United States is way out here. We're way beyond this, but 27, this is 2009.
I think they were looking at 2005 data or whatever. It's back there a bit. We get way
more doubled, tripled, quadrupled. So on this chart, more vaccine doses, the more vaccine
doses you give, if these were good for babies, you would want to see mortality, which is
the y-axis on deaths per 1000. You would want to see the line slope this way, right down
from left to right. Instead, we see it sloping the wrong way. The more vaccine doses you
give, the more likely your child is to show up dead from what they call SIDS. But in the
United States, they started hiding that same Same as with COVID, of COVID.
They started, they have all these different subcodes now.
It's not just SIDS anymore, like the baby was found dead
in the crib the next day.
They have sudden unexplained death.
They have SUDs.
They have all these different categories now
to try and sort of hide it a little bit.
But if you recompile it, this line slopes the wrong way.
So right, this is what should happen, Evie, immediately when you see this as a nation as you go okay stop timeout
we're killing babies yep there's no other explanation for this there's no
way to soften this look at this p-value 0.00 less than 0.00 that's as
far down as you go they don't usually rack that out to point zero zero zero zero zero zero. That's it. That's as far as they go
The F statistic is 27 is really wildly
Significant finding and and you're gonna want to know what's going on, right? Right, right
Instead you probably went home with the same guidance everybody did you can't have your baby sleep on their belly
You can't sleep with a baby
You got to make sure that the crib doesn't have loose things in there
They gave you every possible way to avoid kids except the thing that was causing it. Yeah
Right. Yeah, you're right. It's so ridiculous
and by the way
And a very common thing to happen is when a child shows up with Sid's is for those parents to be charged or
Investigated by the local police and district. Oh my god that happens all the time
I know I've read some terrible stories about it and I my heart just aches for for these people
who are suffering with the grief of their baby. You just find your baby dead. There's nothing more
traumatic than that. No and then to have these people come in and investigate you as if you did
something to harm them. Because they can't, and that's how the system works.
Oh, so gross. It's evil.
It is evil. Wow.
Yeah, well, that's where we're at.
By the way, this is just that whole thing collapsed.
This is from a 2009 thing.
But again, look at this. Look.
More deaths up this axis, more vaccine doses out here,
and the line fits really good. There's some dispersion doses out here, and the line fits really
good. There's some dispersion in the data but the line slopes the wrong way. And
this is what the table that they stem and look like. Sweden and Japan, Iceland,
Norway, Denmark on the bottom with 12 doses each, averaging 3.3 infant deaths
per 1,000 and maybe we could get that closer to zero if even the 12 went away
depending on timing potentially. And then down here you have the Netherlands Canada Australia United States so averaging five point one deaths, okay?
There you have it
Right and this is it 27. I think we're up to like 96 or something. Oh, it's really gross
It's really they they come they combine a lot, so it's it's yeah
Well, you see yeah, you get the you get the combos right? Yeah, well, you see, you get the combos, right?
The DTAP is a three-fer, right?
Right, right.
So it's like four shots, but it's more like, you know,
10 different antigens in the shots.
Now, these are just four things required
prior to one year of age.
Prior to one year of age.
And again, SIDS piles up at months two to four and
that's when most of these show up on the schedule, right? Wow. I mean it's just...
Oh this is so Matt, this is so infuriating. Chris, this makes me wish I
trusted my gut. My gut was right. You were right. I always trust your gut. Your gut is
amazingly right. I was so... those visits, and I'm sure other parents in
this chat would agree, gave me PTSD because I was the one those those visits and I'm sure other parents in this chat would agree
Gave me a PTSD because I was the one that had to bring both my daughters to them and it was awful
It was absolutely awful
Like I would nurse my baby right after so I could help them to like start stop crying like but they would cry so hard
They would almost like puke like they couldn't breathe
Like horrible hold your baby down while we do something awful to it like cry so hard they would almost like puke, like they couldn't breathe. Like, horrible.
Hold your baby down while we do something awful to it.
Like, ugh.
Like, it really was bad.
I don't know.
It just felt wrong, you know?
Like, I'm all about doing things that are gonna make somebody healthier or be, you know,
braces being one of those things.
Like, maybe those actually help your teeth, you know?
And they're not the most comfortable and maybe you don't enjoy
them but they're they're doing something good for you I I just felt innately that
this was bad yeah and I bet there are lots of other parents out there that did
the same thing well one of the ways you can begin to detect things are bad is
what is when they just get angry with you rather than explanatory right right
when somebody has a point of view which is an opinion, like I have a medical opinion
based on a lot of experience and you challenge and you say oh yeah doc how
you know. I'll say oh here's how I know. Right. You explain it. You teach. Yep. But
if I have a belief system that's unbacked and unguarded and I also know
that it's probably wrong on some level and you challenge that I explode with
anger. Right. That's how you challenge that I explode with anger, right?
That's that's how that's how you know, you're talking with a belief system versus an opinion
Opinions are guarded by facts belief systems are guarded by emotions. Ooh
That's good one. All right
so um, and by the way
This is how I see it now RFK jr. Just came out this morning or yesterday
Yeah yesterday and said a compliant child must take
between 69 and 92 vaccines to stay in school in some states.
And not one of them has been safety tested
in a pre-licensing placebo controlled trial.
And that's just malpractice.
And he called it malevolent malpractice.
So here's how I see it.
Step one, you force people to pay exorbitant property taxes
mainly for local schools.
Our town, 60 plus percent of our budget is for schools. You have to. Why? Because step two is we make
school attendance is mandatory. So I have to pay for it and it's mandatory
because it's that important. But step three is then you force people's
children to take mandatory untested vaccines to attend the school.
Hmm. Step four. I don't know what step four is. Robert, I don't. Wow. That is the system.
Oh, that's so gross.
That is the system.
So grifty.
It is.
Now, this is the former ACIP chair, Dr. Carol Baker.
You're gonna love this one, Evie.
This is such a gem,
because I think she speaks for a lot of people here,
unfortunately, these days.
The battle is being fought.
One family, one physician, one health center.
That's why we're doing as well as we are. We're talking about the minority and
strategies against the minority. So I have the solution.
Every study published in the last five years when you look at vaccine refusers.
I'm not talking about well vaccine refusers.
vaccine refusers. I'm not talking about, well, vaccine refusers. Presidents, most of them we can talk into coming to terms, but refusers. We'll just
get rid of all the whites in the United States.
Whoa, whoa. That jumped the shark. What? Can you say that out loud?
Because the other people don't understand what she's trying to say to them?
Is that what she's inferring?
Insert the word Asians or Blacks or Jews or something into that.
You can't say that.
Okay, okay.
But she did say that.
Let's listen again.
Most of them we can talk into coming to terms, but refusers. We'll just get rid of all the whites in the United States because
it is the most diverse city in the entire United States.
There are seven Asian language spoken in that city.
I've been a minority for more than 20 years in the city of Houston.
And the majority is, we call Hispanic,
that is not a race or an ethnicity,
that is a political designation,
but a lot of them are from Central, South America, Mexico.
Guess who wants to get vaccinated the most?
Immigrants.
Part of it.
That's what made Donald Trump's comment about bringing diseases and funding.
They're at peace when they come here. Immigrants. Have better vaccination rates in Mexico. It is the
well-educated, in terms of pieces of paper that they put on their wall, people that have been here a long time and it's very unfortunate. But I think we need not lose the big picture.
Which is, you're a demon.
Yeah, we're on to you, Dr. Carol Baker.
How did that whole audience not stand up and boo and walk out immediately?
This is the most disgusting thing I think I've heard in in about 10 minutes. Well, everybody there is is caring about their own, you know, ego and, and, you
know, everybody's trying to be a part of this, this elite circle.
And I feel like people just socially go along with it because they want to be
accepted and they want to be seen and heard.
And I mean, what other reason would you have to sit there and
listen to this? I don't know. I mean, the part for me that it's like, listen, if you have so-called
vaccine refusers, the way you reach them is with actual data. They never bring the data out. They
just yell at you and they tell you you're wrong and they shame you and they want you to lose your
job and they will belittle you. They want to take your child away in some cases.
They'll take your children away.
But what they won't do is go back to the data.
And we just saw why, because under deposition Stanley Plotkin, the Godfather
of vaccines had to admit we don't do the studies.
We just, they aren't studied.
So for a vaccine refuser, that's like somebody saying, Oh, you want me to get
into your rocket ship if you ever built rocket ships before, how many come back?
Oh, you're a rocket ship refuser.
You don't get
into this Roman candle I just built here. No, it's that. I can't even form words. It's
mind-bogglingly ridiculously bad, but it's also evil. This is evil. It's been exposed
and they're scrambling now and they're really nervous because they know that their game
is almost up.
This is probably a dangerous time for RFK Jr. too. It's dangerous time for a lot of folks because
these demons do not just sort of crawl back under the rocks. No. So this is this is when to your
point this is when they think about release vial three you know like they're going to release
something else to make sure that they don't, that they're not wrong.
Yeah.
Oh, if we just release this terrible pathogen, but people will need a vaccine and the vaccine
this time will actually work and save them.
I'm off the hook for the lifetime of harming felt my fellow humans.
No, you're not.
It doesn't work that way.
No, it doesn't.
That's how they think.
They think it does.
Yep.
No, but I, I think they're probably probably gonna do something like that in the near future
It just feels like it. No, no, all right
So most people would agree for everybody watching this if you are a parent just take all this under advisement
I'm not telling you what to do except I am telling you trust yourself like Evie just trust yourself trust your gut
Are they giving you answers that comport with what you know, right?
but once you start peeling this back you find out none of these are really tested
and all of them have side effects.
And some of the side effects are really bad in some people
and almost unnoticeable in others,
and it's just how it is.
But you don't know which roll of the dice you're gonna get
in your particular lot.
So we will know these things.
This is what RFK Junior's trying to steer us towards.
It's a big, giant machine. It's a big giant machine.
It's really ugly and very dark.
So with that, we're already out of our hour,
but I'm going to keep going if you guys will stick with us.
Yeah, hang in.
And also hit that Like button so that we can get
this information to more people.
Yep.
Thank you.
These LA protests, I have to talk about them real quick
I'm calling them riots and we have to understand them from the rats in a cage
Founding if you if you're a new watcher and you don't know what that is a quick review is I've done this well
Here's I put out one in
2021
And I did this oh, that's in the context of all my kovat reporting
So what is rats in a cage rats in a cage simply this, that if you put one rat in a cage, it's lonely.
And they're social creatures.
They'd rather be around other rats.
So it's lonely.
That's why it's a slightly little sad rat.
And if you start shocking this rat with electric shocks,
and there's nowhere to escape to, it can't climb up the sides,
there's nothing to crawl onto, it's just going to get shocked.
It is now a miserable
unhappy rat being shocked in it. But you know what happens over
time is it just sort of like curls up in a little ball and
just stays there being super unhappy. The problem starts
when you put a second rat in the cage with the first rat. Now
you shock both of them and you know what happens rat one and
rat to say I'm really unhappy and I know why.
And they start fighting each other because they have something to direct their anger
against.
They don't understand that there's somebody with a white lab coat out there pressing a
shock button.
And you think, well, that's kind of weird, Chris.
Why would you tell me what is that?
It turns out it's extremely well studied.
It's called shock induced aggression and it's run on every social species.
Oh, wow.
That was from 1964
1964 exactly so and I can show you papers from the 40s
So so but they've been doing this long enough on Evie that that you know
There's all sorts of different experimental designs and training schedules and they've done it over and over again
And they've done it with rats and dogs and monkeys and I submit to you. They do it with humans
But it's just a known thing.
When you shock an animal, a social animal,
it's going to need an outlet for its pain.
And if that pain, well, it's gonna be the nearest thing
I can identify because if the animal doesn't know
where the shocks are coming from, right,
can't diagnose that part of it,
doesn't understand, oh, it's that dick in the white lab coat.
You turn your, the aggression has to go somewhere.
Right.
You can't just hold it.
You can't just carry it around.
Right.
Non-social species won't, won't do this.
Right.
So, cause they don't, that's not how they're, they're wired up.
Like you could shock worms all day long.
They don't fight the other worms, you know, just doesn't, just doesn't happen.
So it's well studied.
And by the way, we've known about this through history.
It's also called divide and rule. Right. And so King, uh, Phillips, the second of Macedon was,
was noted, uh, that maybe, you know, this was the first guy he called it, um,
divide etibere divide and rule. And so, uh, practiced it and it worked out really, really cool.
All right. So where does that take us? These are all rats in a cage Yeah
Wow, so so these are all people who are rightly shocked by something
They don't know where the shocks are coming from
And so they lash out and the police in this story and the protesters are both rats in a cage in this story
Right, and they have very good reasons for being super angry with each other
But I submit to you if they could just widen it up a tiny bit,
they would realize that they're being shocked and provoked into this stuff.
Right.
So remember, under Biden, millions of people were deported under Bush.
Millions of people were deported.
Right.
Right.
Under Obama, millions of people deported, like lots of millions,
millions and millions, like 16 or 20 million or something crazy.
Ten, 15 million. Right. Under under Clinton, millions or something crazy. Lots, 5, 10, 15 million, right?
Under Clinton, millions deported.
It's a normal, usual, ordinary thing, particularly for a nation without a border that it can
control.
So it happens, particularly to the United States.
Somehow Trump's trying to get rid of a few hundred thousand out of millions of illegal
aliens who've come in, right?
They're not immigrants, remember?
Immigrants are 100% welcome my grandparents were immigrants it's a process 70 boxes very
elaborate take a test wait years sometimes yep that's not who we're
talking about so they've tried hard in their usual utopian communist way to
accidentally conflate things this isn against, these aren't protests against immigrants.
It's illegal aliens.
That's the correct legal term.
Okay, I'm not using that as a pejorative
or an inflammatory term.
That is the correct legal term, according to Robert Barnes.
So illegal aliens are here,
and now Trump's trying to get rid of them and deport them,
and all of a sudden you get this.
Evie, we didn't get to this point where,
remember these people were all just scratching
and burning Teslas last week?
Yeah.
And then prior to that, it was Black Lives Matters
and then prior to that,
it was like you have to wear your mask and Ukraine
and on and on.
Well, it happens like this, okay?
Yeah. Nudge, nudge.
Drew Holden says, I'm having a hard time describing just how partisan the media's coverage of the LA immigration
Riots, I know
I mean you can just everybody can read those headlines right, but but you can see it's not just partisan
These are active attempts to shock like like provoke like this is nudge nudge into those
Blob of people who are all angry and
Look at the language they're using. Yeah war and you know
Authoritarian
Crisis all of that, right, you know, yep and
inflammatory language
Look look and I love that with National Guard in LA is an abuse of power says national security expert expert.
Aren't we quite kind of experts at this point on national security?
Oh, an expert, an expert said.
But so expert no longer works on our tribe.
Our tribe is like, actually, as soon as you say expert, I'm like, oh, no, I'm taking the opposite side of that.
Yeah, automatically.
But for the people who want to believe in this stuff and for the NPCs and those who are easily misled,
expert is still an important thing as long as it's supporting their view of things.
Right? If you brought in an expert that supported a different view, like an expert who might say,
we've run the studies and men are biologically stronger than women. Oh, that's not an expert.
They'd have to get rid of that right away. By the way, anybody listening, if you want to come
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any of us can do right now is have access
to the information to understand where the shocks are coming
from and why, so that we're not accidentally dragged down
into being rats in a cage.
That way we can elevate a little bit
and make the right decisions, knowing who's doing what
and why.
And by the way, we're going to come back very quick.
In just two minutes, we've got a come back very quick in just two minutes.
We've got a lot of really important stuff to talk about.
We're going to go into what Maxine Waters said.
Go into these LA riots.
I've got a really important point to make around all that, but we're just going to take
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have you heard Maxine Waters, one of my least favorite people, but I'm going to subject you
to it anyway. Here we go. The protests and even those who were out of step with what we're
advocating peaceful protest, did not
create any violence.
Nobody was shot, nobody was killed.
Get it in your head.
And so when martial law is called, what are you going to say?
I missed the point.
Don't miss the point, you all.
Don't think that somehow because they called out the National Guard, there was violence.
There was no violence.
What?
Okay so she's talking about violence against people I guess but no no no violence
Here's some more violence. This is what no violence looks like actually.
Hey! Hey! Let me through!
Let me through!
Let me through!
Let me through!
Oh my gosh.
They're just throwing things onto the cars.
Yeah.
I mean, but so it's that famous skit by Richard Pryor where he's caught in bed sleeping with
another woman and his wife comes in and she says, you're sleeping with that man.
And he goes, no, I'm not.
Who are you going to believe me or your lion eyes, right?
Maxine waters.
There was no violence, right?
How about this?
How about this Hillary Clinton?
Look, look, look at this.
Oh, what does she have to say?
Let's see.
California governor Newsom didn't request the national guard be deployed to a
state following peaceful demonstrations.
Trump sent them anyway.
It's the first time in 60 years a president has made that choice.
Trump's goal isn't to keep Californians safe.
His goal is to cause chaos because chaos is good for Trump.
Yeah, spoken like a real elder right there.
Well, I'm not even clear how chaos is good for Trump. But, um, uh, but she's like,
Newsome didn't request the national guard following peaceful demonstration,
peaceful. That's what she's calling peaceful demonstrations. And by the way,
as you can see right down here, now, um,
somebody just got arrested for attempted murder because you can see him.
That's a, he's, that's a lighter down here. Uh, he's right.
Lighting a Molotov cocktail to throw at law enforcement at any rate. So this is all happening.
This is anything but peaceful.
We're back to our 2020 summer of love.
Remember our fiery but mostly peaceful protest.
This trick is worn out.
It's welcome in my book.
Listen, just because you tell me it's peaceful or not, you know, it's fiery but peaceful.
These are again, we're back to the old thing, which is when the left doesn't get its way,
it erupts in anger and violence. But it's doing so because you have people like Hillary applying back to the whole thing, which is when the left doesn't get its way, it erupts in anger and violence.
But it's doing so because you have people like Hillary
applying shocks to the system, telling them it's okay,
you can do this, it's fine to go.
But if we want to diagnose this,
you wanna know where the shocks are coming from?
I'll tell you what's shocking.
What's shocking is that young people today in America
can't form households because they can't afford to.
What's shocking is the cost of insurance on houses, cars, anything like that.
What's shocking is the degree to which we are abandoning and betraying the younger generations.
So if the younger generations are angry, it's true.
But then your elders come forward and say, oh, you're right to be angry, directed against
the police, against Trump, against anybody but people like Hillary Clinton, who have been parasites
inside the system for decade after decade. And they are the ones who have
brought us to this point. Right? You want shocks? Okay, here you go. Let's
look at it. This is a chart of household wealth distributed in the United
States. That little black smear all the way at the bottom. That's how much
wealth the bottom 50% holds.
You wanna know who we're talking to here?
Everybody in these at the bottom 50%.
They're rioting, they're unhappy, they're being shocked.
This is their participation in sharing of the wealth.
And then it goes up from there.
This is the 50 to 90%.
So even the 90%, nine out of 10,
have this much total wealth, right?
This next is just the next 10%, this blue.
Next is just the next 0.9%, and this is the last 0.1%.
And if you look at this, the Federal Reserve,
they did that.
They printed, they printed, they printed, they printed.
If you wanna talk about who you should be angry at,
where the protests ought to be,
where people should rightly show up and display some anger.
It would be outside of that building right there,
not on the streets, like rats in a cage,
throwing rocks at police cruisers.
That doesn't solve this.
This is massive injustice right here, okay?
And it's printed out of existence of, by, and for
the upper class for the upper class.
That's it, the whole thing.
It's not, this isn't left right.
It's not even rich poor, although you
could make a stronger argument for that.
But it's really those who operate with integrity
versus those who operate out of integrity.
And this is a system that doesn't have integrity.
Now, Evie, you want to talk about people
who have entirely lost the plot.
Let's listen in here real quick, by the way.
Yeah, go ahead and read what Savannah,
this is from Savannah Hernandez.
This is her video.
She shot this.
Okay.
And yeah, what does she say down there?
She says, just watched two white liberals stop traffic
and tell a mother who is begging to go to work
that illegals and their children are more important.
I then asked how they felt stopping a black woman
from getting to work.
They both laughed in our faces.
Okay, here's the interaction. There's a lot of background noise, but you see the two liberals,
white dish on the left there and this black woman is just like, she's like, I gotta go
to work. But what about my kids? I need to get a job? That's what happens to my people.
But you can't, you could just move off of me.
How is it that people protest if there's enough people?
Look at this.
How do you all as white people feel about stopping a black woman from going to work?
Oh no, not work.
I care so much.
So you don't care about stopping black people from going to work? Look at this lie that you guys are causing. I'm not causing no problems. I'm not trying to. We're just trying to leave.
No, because they don't care about the citizens of this country. That's the problem. It's not that this woman is black is that she's an American. They don't care. They don't care. They have a different ideology. It's important. They want to bring in non-Americans. And I guess as soon as they became Americans,
they would care about them just as little
as they do this woman here, right?
It doesn't matter that the woman's black,
but they will hold up the Black Lives Matters
if they think that gives them more credibility.
But these are utopias, they're communists.
Yep, that's where we're at.
So when life imitates art, I mean, look at the expression.
Oh.
I'm not
Yes, you are you just aren't aware and you need me to white-splane your oppression for you
You are feeble and lower than me and need me to be your savior
You cannot get by without look at the energy of that lady that is exactly her energy. Wow, you know
Oh my goodness, right?
It's wow. It's astonishing. It is astonishing. It's astonishing. There aren't good words for it. Speaking of
which, that leads straight into our democracy. Oh, I'm sorry. Our? Our democracy,
which we have to discuss because that's the problem. It turns out that Gavin Newsom
reported here that every single Democratic governor agreed that Donald Trump's
attempts to militarize California are alarming abuse of power.
And other people noted that no, what Donald Trump is trying to do is get the law enforcement,
including up to the National Guard, to help protect Americans.
And Gavin Newsom and every single, think about this Evie, every single Democratic governor
has said, we agree, you shouldn't ever protect Americans.
That's not what you do.
What?
That's not what you should do.
It's an alarming abuse of power to try and get,
like, oh, well, no, they're not, you don't understand.
They're just destroying taxpayer property.
They're setting cars on fire,
they're destroying corporate property,
Waymo cars got lit up,
you got buildings being smashed into,
there's looting, stores are being broken into,
police cars are being destroyed.
You know who's gonna pay for all of that?
We are. We are.
Because the store's gonna have insurance,
and next thing you know, my insurance rates go up.
We're gonna have to pay for new cop cars.
They pretend as if it's just sort of this thing
that just sort of happens randomly. Oh no, you don't understand.
And Maxine being like this isn't violence, but it might not be, I mean
clearly it is obviously, but violence against people's property is also
a form of violence. So our democracy, so they only care about this if it's
going their way. Okay, so I think Frank Zappa for the win here.
Oh yeah. He says,
the illusion of freedom will continue as long as
it's profitable to continue the illusion.
Excuse me. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain,
they will just take down the scenery.
They will pull back the curtains.
They will move the tables and chairs out of the way,
and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater
Yeah. Yeah. So this has just been laid bare
and it turns out
democracy was a show and
That show is over. And so I talked about this a while ago. I just this is this is this is fun
this is um, not fun, but
You got to take your fun where you can have it.
So remember in 2020, Wisconsin had the famous,
well, that's fraud.
That makes an F.
That's the fraud chart right there, right?
At 2.30 in the morning, magically 100%
of all the counted votes and just enough needed
put Biden over Trump in Wisconsin.
So Wisconsin obviously is a terrible state
that has a corrupt broken voting processes,
if not machines.
And remember this Evie?
So today.
So this was, this is the woman who was voted in,
Susan Crawford, the projected winner in 2025,
the projected winner of the race
for Wisconsin State Supreme Court.
Right?
Remember this?
I do.
Wisconsinites fended off an unprecedented attack on our democracy.
Our democracy.
Fended off an attack on our democracy.
Our fair elections and our Supreme Court and Wisconsin's stood up and said loudly
that justice does not have a price.
Our courts are not for sale.
No, they're not for sale, but we did go on to note right after that, we said
prediction prediction, and this was, this was in April of 2025 when we put this piece out I just pulled this slide up
and there she is on now Democrats have an all-woman Supreme Court but four of
them are highly highly liberal so they have a seven-person Supreme Court so that
so now these super super duper liberals who smirk like cats who just ate the
canary when they say are entirely free and fair elections have delivered our democracy back to us.
Obviously, that's that's just junk. Right. So the prediction was we're going to see some legally untethered activist decisions.
Well, this just came out.
What? Okay. So Kerry goes on to say, in case you didn't believe it, when people were talking about how liberal the Wisconsin Supreme Court could get after the election, they just got
unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court in a religious liberty decision written by
Justice Sotomayor of all people, the most liberal of all possible judges. They even
got spanked. They were so liberal and cray cray. They got spanked by Sotomayor. So I'm just saying that's
yeah. If you've lost every single Supreme Court justice, maybe that should
be a wake up call. The four liberal Wisconsin Wisconsin judges can't say
that they weren't warned because they were by their conservative colleagues.
Don't expect this nine to zero smackdown to temper the unrestrained ambitions of Wisconsin. I can't say that word to that Wisconsin's
for left-wing justices. Wow. So far astray, so to me or even reverse.
Crazy. Here's the thing, stolen elections have consequences and we're going to learn that good and hard
until we finally figure that out.
Yeah, until we stand up and say no more.
Yeah, and here's another prediction. Until or unless the United States gets clear elections
again and the only thing I'll trust will be paper-based ballots, day of counting, that's
it, right? Everything else is just a rigable shenanigan. That's it. If absentee ballots, maybe for overseas
military, that's it, though. Right? Not everybody who sort of wants one and you
can't track them. And somehow we can't use QR codes or trackings. None of that.
Right. Stolen elections have consequences. Full stop. That's where
we're at. Okay.
You want to vote, you come to the United States and be here when the vote happens.
All right, we're going to close out with this, Evie, because it's just too
tragic not to not to cover. You know, Evie, because it's just too tragic not to
cover. But we've talked about Europe's frictionless slope in the past.
We have.
This just came out. This is really horrifying to me. It came out yesterday.
Europe is putting Nord Stream one in two behind for good. We also propose to lower the oil price cap from 60 to 45 dollars per barrel
Oil is one third of Russia's government revenues. We need to cut this source
We'll discuss how best to coordinate with partners at the g7 summit. Well, then you got a picture down there, which is
Collis on the left and your sir Lavando liar lying laying
Sorry there in her red, traditional red.
But these two, these two ladies are doing immeasurable damage.
Like, oh, this 18th package of sanctions, that ought to do the trick.
And by the way, I'm saying putting Nord Stream one and two behind for good.
Don't they need that?
That's their cheap, that's cheap gas.
They've just said, oh, we don't need cheap gas.
It's so important to us to finally- To spank Russia.
The 18th time ought to do the trick.
The 17 others didn't work.
In fact, it made Russia stronger.
So they have no explanation for why this time it'll work.
But the hubris to think that they can lower the price of oil
just by fiat, by diktat.
We'll just declare oil's 45 a barrel.
It's not how it works.
It's ridiculous.
It's not how systems work.
And it sucks because this is hurting the people there.
Like... Good point. It's hurting the people. Here's a sucks because this is hurting the people there. Like, good point.
It's hurting.
Here's a prediction.
I'm full of predictions today.
Europe's economic future is just toast.
So they are deindustrializing so fast right now.
It's hard to explain.
But you see here, you see this red line.
This is energy intensive sectors.
So that's metals, chemicals, rubbers, plastics, wood
products, paper products, non-metallic mineral
products, coke, refining, electricity, food and beverage. Food and beverage. Okay? Like
this is pretty basic stuff. By the time you're down to your cement, your metals, your rubber,
food and beverage, electricity. See this? This is now as bad as at the depths of when they shut it
down for COVID. That's how bad they're de-industrializing. And their point of view is like,
oh, well, we'll just put Nord Stream one and two behind us for good. People of Europe, you are being
hosed by dangerous utopist ideologues. And if you don't figure it out in time, they're
going to destroy your country. This is destroying your country. This is it. And by the way,
you know who's not waiting around? You know who's not waiting around, Evie? Right? China. China. I mean, they're just gonna like, they're just gonna like, hey,
here you and by the way, when you lose market share, it's gone for good. Like, it's not like,
oh, you know, that was terrible. Let's see if we can get BMW, BASF and, you know, Siemens to come
back and start manufacturing things again. No, no, once you lose it, it's gone. So you trust us. We
know we lost a lot in this country. Yeah, you, once you lose it, it's gone. Trust us, we know.
We lost a lot in this country.
Yeah, you drive around the East and you see the old coal towns
in Pennsylvania.
Once the coal mine shuts down, its mojo is gone forever.
There's little scrappy towns of despair.
Yeah, there are lots of buildings left
that are ghost towns after that.
Yeah, what do you do with those old buildings that
are fit for a purpose that no longer exists?
It's just not a lot.
All right. So at any rate, that's the prediction. That's easy for me
to come by. Europe is going to get in a lot of trouble here and they're doing it to themselves.
Chris, it's hard not to think that there isn't something more evil going on, that this is
a population control or trying to wipe us out somehow because I cannot for the life
of me explain why they
would do something like that.
It could be profound ignorance, but you'd have to be really stupid. Like you'd have
to be really stupid. The understanding of like that cheap energy is the foundation of
all prosperity is like a very simple concept. Fifth graders can get it. It's not hard, right?
But they don't understand it at all. So is that willful ignorance or
Some other form of ignorance or or is the point to ruin the continent
Sure seems like that is the point
Increasingly it's hard to escape that it's evil. It's just it's evil because evil likes to destroy things, right?
When Naomi Wolf said that it kind of crystallized for me He's like, oh, yeah, I don't have to think of evil is like the omen with projectile vomit and spinning heads, right? When Naomi Wolf said that, it kind of crystallized for me. It's like, oh yeah, I don't have to think of evil as like the omen with projectile vomit and spinning heads,
right?
It's evil just like to wreck stuff.
So when I look at all of these protesters,
the rioters out in LA, invariably these people
are exceedingly good at wrecking things.
That's right.
Right?
You look at these atheist organizers,
and that's who they all seem to be. Right.
A lot of atheist organizers out there and they insist that, you know,
they have to redistribute all the wealth because that's when utopia will happen.
Geez, Evie, you're one of those greedy farmers. You know, we're going to have to come take all your cows and chickens away someday because
you're a greedy person, right? They don't know how to raise cows or chickens.
They have no interest in it.
They want you to raise them and they want to take them because that's who they fundamentally are. But they don't
know how to build stuff. They're not entrepreneurs. That's why they're in the bottom 50%. Correct.
In addition to the fact that the system is rigged against them. So they're part right,
but also just lazy and ignorant is the problem. Yep. I think you're right. You're right about
that. All right. Are you going to land this plane? I think we're right. You're right about that. All right are you going
to land this plane? I think we're at the edge of our time here. We are. But thank
you very much everybody for being here with us today. That's been great spending
this afternoon with you. Signal hour and a half. So there I've got two things
actually if I may because one I chose before I knew what you were going
to be talking about this afternoon, because sometimes it's all brand new for me too.
And the other one I had chosen earlier today, which is by Rainer Maria Rilke.
I'm not very good at pronouncing his name, but anyway,
says, be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart,
and try to love the questions themselves,
like locked rooms and like books that are now written in a very foreign tongue.
Do not now seek the answers which cannot be given you,
because you would not be able to
live them.
And the point is to live everything.
Live the questions now.
Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answer."
And the other one is called In the Meantime.
And this one seemed more appropriate based on what we talked about today.
Meanwhile, flowers still bloom, the moon rises in the sun, babies smile and somewhere, against
all the odds, two people are falling in love.
Strangers share cigarettes and jokes, light plays on the surface of water,
grace occurs on unlikely streets, and we hold each other fast against entropy, the fires,
and the flood. Life leans toward living, and while death claims all things at the end,
there were such precious times between, which everything was radiant and we loved
again this world.
Thank you for that.
And thank you everybody for being here.
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