Peak Prosperity - Stocks Say ‘Everything Is Awesome!’ While Bonds Sneak Out the Back Door

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Nothing in this program should be considered investment advice. It is for educational purposes only Please hit pause and read this disclaimer in full But that yen carry trade blows up that reverses liquidity in the market and if there's several other things Blow up as well that just sets off a chain of events that could lead to a crash at some point in the future The following is the audio version of a video released at peak prosperity calm a chain of events that could lead to a crash at some point in the future. The following is the audio version of a video released at peakprosperity.com. Visit peakprosperity.com to watch the video and to find other insightful content such as articles, discussion forums, and exclusive subscriber-only content. Hello everyone and welcome to this edition episode of Finance U where we discuss all
Starting point is 00:00:53 things financial in a way that hopefully you can understand them and our view is that these are really really extraordinary times and so we're going to need the best information we can to keep current and try and figure out where the puck is Going and by the way That puck might just reappear somewhere random in the arena Maybe even in the parking lot who knows to help us understand where that puck it may mean it's not even a puck It's a bowl of petunias. We don't know Paul kiker kiker wealth management eight ball good to see Great intro, Chris. That was phenomenal. I love that.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Well. And you're right. These are interesting times. I mean, I really believe that in the future, there's going to be a lot of time spent on studying emotions, foolishness, and just peak stupidity within the U.S. in many areas and peak emotional pressure within the US in many areas and peak emotional pressure within the markets on investors. I totally agree. And by the way, I've been a huge critic of the Fed over the years because I don't see them
Starting point is 00:01:57 as careful stewards of anything. I see them as serial bubble blowers. And my model for that has been they started, like all things. They started innocently enough with a little bubble, and then they just got used to it. Now they've been larger and larger and larger. And I think what we've just seen since the beginning of this year where we had Liberation Day tantrum, and then this complete recovery, which by the way, is for the record books,
Starting point is 00:02:22 Paul, this is not just sort of like an interesting advance. This is one of the most powerful six week advances in the US stock indices since ever. And, and because of that, I look at that and it doesn't feel organic, it doesn't look organic, there's nothing that could make the story change that much, you know, honestly, let's talk about what has happened. People, I guess, were relieved is the story we're supposed to believe, that we don't have 145 percent tariffs on China. Instead, we have 30 percent tariffs, where before we used to have 10 percent tariffs. So if you're keeping score at home, we now have an input cost structure that's higher
Starting point is 00:03:00 than it just was. All things being equal, Paul, that means that fewer things are gonna get sold, which is lower economic activity. Because higher prices lead to less demand, unless all of my economics was wrong. So I don't see any way to spin this besides saying, well, things are gonna get a little bit more expensive and things will go slightly slower.
Starting point is 00:03:20 So either corporations make less on the profit side on the front end because they don't they eat the cost increases or they raise it and they sell fewer things. One of those two things happens or so or both. I just I didn't see a way to spin that into a massive explosion higher. But everybody's been trained, habituated. The Fed's going to save us. They'll print more stocks go up into the right always by the dip That is the ruling mantra and it was right one more time It has been right so far and and who knows maybe this is it and maybe maybe this is navigated
Starting point is 00:03:56 Perfectly from this point forward and Trump just has that golden horseshoe up his rear end graphics, sorry, Renee's gonna get on to me for that but up his rear end. Graphics, sorry, Rene's going to get on to me for that. But the reality is, it can be navigated perfectly, but there are major changes that have been taking place around the globe. And you've got real estate that's essentially frozen, prices are holding up right now, interest rates are still continuing to climb and work their way higher. Does that tell us that we're worried about inflation? And then the big question is, is the hard data has held up really well in comparison to sentiment, okay?
Starting point is 00:04:31 So sentiment, your soft data has been negative and still relatively negative. Hard data is held up, but we know some of that, at least we think some of that is attributed to the front running of the tariffs. So my concern is, is if we don't navigate this perfectly and our leaders are making no mistakes whatsoever, and to make no mistakes whatsoever, you have to assume that they're going to be able to counterbalance those forces out there on the other political party that
Starting point is 00:04:59 don't seem to want to be working together as a team. They are desiring failure of this administration. So they've got other challenges that they're facing. What's going to happen if we do have a slowdown and we had we actually have a recession in the fall, who knows whether we're going to or not. But with that front running, that's purchases that's pulled demand forward, which could further exacerbate a slowdown if we do have a slowdown later in the year. So this is a dangerous time for investors.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And I haven't seen emotions this high with the individuals that tend to get really emotional at the bottom, that you have to talk them into staying and then get really emotional. You're having to talk them right now. Hey, just be patient. You're playing the long game. Don't let this fear of having to talk to them right now, hey, just be patient, you're playing the long game. Don't let this fear of missing out suck you in right now,
Starting point is 00:05:48 because if it's not navigated perfectly, at a minimum, we should at least have a pullback. You know, long-term, a healthy rally can retest those lows in April. Who knows whether we will or not. But the reality is, you know, the risk is you get sucked in right now, and then we do end up not navigating this perfectly, and we retest those lows or break those lows, and then that individual is frozen, not knowing what to do. So that's why it's so important to have a strategy to keep your emotions in check. Invest your plan, not your emotions. I've heard that somewhere.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yes. Actually, it's right over your head. I couldn't remember if I changed my sign behind me or not. You didn't. But yeah, that's important right now is don't let your emotions make decisions for you. And if your emotions are taken over,
Starting point is 00:06:37 hey, take 10 days, just take a deep breath. Missed opportunity is not what's gonna wipe somebody out, but an emotional mistake that allows somebody to get too aggressive and then it not pan out the way they expect it to, or maybe the Fed can't bail it out. Does it come to the table like they have in the past? That can decimate someone's retirement future or their retirement goals. Well, Paul, last time we did talk about there were some SOMA purchases by the Fed.
Starting point is 00:07:10 I had to wait, though, because we recorded that on Wednesday. It's not until Thursday that the Fed updates once a week. They update their balance sheet. There's nothing. I mean, the balance sheet only expanded by about a billion over that past week. So that's well within noise. So I don't think they've started printing anything, but we still don't have access to whatever the Fed does
Starting point is 00:07:31 overseas that's hidden from everybody. So, so we don't know. But you know, this whole idea, so stocks are for show bonds are for dough. You've heard me say it before bonds. I want to get to those in a minute. Those are saying, telling us a different story potentially than what we're hearing from stocks, commodities, telling an entirely different story from the, Hey, you know, huge growth is about to arrive here. Somebody has the story wrong. So I want to parse that through with you. But let's, let's start here though, with this idea that the Trump administration is trying something really magnificent, right? Something really big. They're going to reset the global order. We talked about that. The so-called Mar-a-Lago accords. Here's Treasury Secretary,
Starting point is 00:08:10 Scott Bissett. He just came out and he said, there's a possibility we can do a big, beautiful rebalancing. Sounds like he's picking up some Trumpisms there in his speech patterns. And he says, quote, Geneva established a framework towards a mutually beneficial agreement between the US and China. Yay.
Starting point is 00:08:28 US can shift more to more production, and China can shift to more consumption. The dream scenario is both countries can do this together. So that's the story. We put these extra tariffs on, and now there's greater impetus to do more producing in the United States. That's the story. However, I want to turn now to a friend of mine, actually, David Stockman, former, he worked in the Office of Management and Budget under Reagan, and he said, quote, sorry, Scott,
Starting point is 00:08:58 that silly hedge fund talk, the huge US trade imbalance with China is because our fully loaded manufacturing wage is about 40 bucks an hour and China's is 10 bucks an hour. And how did that happen? Well, since the late 1980s, the Fed has been inflating the bejesus out of US prices, wages and costs, making American workers and companies increasingly uncompetitive on global markets. Therefore, closing the huge US trade deficit doesn't require re-engineering two massive economies with $50 trillion of combined GDP by ignorant politicians like you and the Donald. Just shut down the Fed's printing presses and the free market. We'll take care of the rest.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Well, that is very well through the gauntlet down on that one. What do you think? Very well said. And I like his big picture thinking in the reality. So there's the ideal of where we would want to go. I mean, that would be great if China would shift more towards consumption. But then you've got these major corporations that that's going to crush their profits and they're not going to want to lose their profits. And that rebalancing, if there is a global rebalancing, at best we can hope that it pulls the rest of the world up to the US.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Great for them, okay for us. But what happens if we have to come down some and they have to come up some, that reduces our standard of living in the US. There's no easy way to navigate this. No, there really isn't. I mean, I admire what they're trying to do. It just feels a little cart before the horse. You know, don't cut off your supplies of cheap Chinese goods first
Starting point is 00:10:32 and then hope you get the factories. Like, make the conditions easier to get factories. And he's absolutely, David's right. The reason that it's so expensive to live here right now is because the Federal Reserve keeps printing money. Yes. I know their balance sheet's been reducing lately, but it's still, you know, well over $6.5 trillion. It's a very, very large number. And they just, and who even knows what they're doing off the books?
Starting point is 00:10:57 We don't know. I wish we did. Audit would cure that up. Why not? If you're not doing anything funny, just audit it. Hey, by the way Where's my audit of Fort Knox? Right that that just disappeared from the mainstream media. Did it not?
Starting point is 00:11:12 Just gone. I'm kind of still I would like a like the audit We'll talk about gold and silver in a minute But you know they have Paul right now There's a number of cities that talk about what their affordability index is for. Just even for a single wage earner in some cities, the cutoff line is about $100,000 a year to not be getting in trouble and somewhat, you know, to not spend more than 30% on your, you know, housing and X percent on the rest of it and all that. Well, that's $50 an hour if you work a 2,000 hour year. Right?
Starting point is 00:11:49 It is. So we say, you know, 40 maybe, that might work for you in Alabama, but it doesn't work for you in San Francisco. You might need something a lot higher than that. So I just don't, I don't understand how we're gonna bring all this manufacturing home when we have 40, $50 input costs, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:06 Right. And if you're a family of four, you might need $50, $60 an hour to pull it off, right? Yes. Yes. And you're still not going to be able to save for your future. So you're going to end up being, you know, chasing in this, this, this feeding frenzy. The Fed has turned investors into like piranhas when some meat hits. They've trained them that, hey, here's a sell-off. And if you stood back and were patient over the years,
Starting point is 00:12:34 you've missed opportunity because they've gone further and further and further across those boundaries that put us in the same situation that caused the housing crisis in 2008. Maybe they think that AI is gonna help them navigate this perfectly going forward, but it's a complex system. And if one thing goes wrong and one plate drops, it can drop all of the other plates and we have a forced reset. Cause if we don't choose to deal with this now and change the decision making process,
Starting point is 00:13:02 my concern is they're telling us that they want to change things, but they continue the same decisions and actions that put us in the situation where we are right now, where it's eviscerated the middle class, and further put pressure and more debt and more pressure on the shoulders of our younger children that are coming out trying to start. If you don't come from a wealthy family, you've got a lot more hurdles to come over to try to get a start because you're having to come out with student debt, you're having to buy houses that are really unaffordable.
Starting point is 00:13:40 You just don't have any other option because if you don't buy and they continue to print money and houses go up for 10 years without a correction, you're further and further behind. So they've set up an environment where the American dream has turned into a treadmill that if you stumble and make a mistake, you're in big trouble. You're not going to be able to recover. And the only way to fix that is to allow free markets to come along, but that's going to be ridiculously painful for baby boomers and especially the passive investors because that passivity is going to cause them to be hurt.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And David's getting right to the heart of something I believe in fully, which is that sound money is kind of a necessary prerequisite for getting to have free markets. I don't know how you can, so people like, Oh, Chris, do you like the Chinese communist model or the American capitalist model? I'm like, well, China doesn't really have communism and we don't have capitalism, right? They're not, they're not, they don't even represent the, the reality of what we should have.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Right. So at a minimum, you can't have capitalism,. What's the root of capitalism capital? What's capital? It's stored wealth. That's what capital represents How can you have stored wealth when there is a group of people who can print it out of thin air and hand it out To their buddies in whatever quantities they want whenever they choose to do it without oversight and without audit You can't so there's no if you don't have capital as a concept. You can't. So if there's no, if you don't have capital as a concept, how can you have capitalism? Right? It just doesn't make any sense. So if we had sound money, a lot of people would hate it. Right. And I think we could do away with at least probably 80% of our financialization process. Those are just
Starting point is 00:15:22 people who make money with money. Right? We don't need them. No, don't need them No, and we would get back to creation and innovation and better products and and more options of products If we went back to sound money, you know one good exercise for the listeners out there if you're trying to help educate your family about These complicated subjects because it's hard for people to understand the impact of printed money and what the Fed can do and those that are close to the Fed. So this is a good exercise. Go play Monopoly with your family. If there's about five of, you know, family and friends,
Starting point is 00:15:54 there's about five of you sitting there, take the money from four other Monopoly games and have one person that's called the Fed, let them play. And then the next person that's close to them, the politicians and senators, and when somebody gets in trouble, just pass that money around and see how trickle economics works.
Starting point is 00:16:13 It doesn't work. They get all the cards and all the properties in the process, and that's exactly where we're headed at this end game. It doesn't trickle down to everybody associated there. They accumulate it for themselves and we get these monopolies and oligarchies is what we end up with. Yep. Well said. I'm Paul. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:17:52 At the time when I was a young man, I didn't appreciate him. Now I'm a little older, more conservative, and I really like how he rolled. And he had that quip about how, said there was this girl came up to him and said, and she had two very liberal parents, and he said, what do you wanna be when you grow up?
Starting point is 00:18:06 And she said, oh, I wanna be president. And he goes, oh, what would you do if you were president? She said, I'd make sure all the homeless had homes, and I'd make sure they had all the food they needed. He goes, oh, that's great, but you don't have to wait to be president, little girl. Come to my house, mow my lawn, straighten up my house, I'll give you 50 bucks,
Starting point is 00:18:21 and I can take you down to the store, and there's a homeless guy there, you can give him the 50 bucks. And he said, she said, well, why doesn't he just come to your house and do that stuff? And he said, welcome to the Republican Party. That's great. And there's so much truth and wisdom in that too. It's reality versus theory, right? Yeah, that's good. So with that, you know, the Fed fundamentally represents to me, unfortunately, I call them the reverse Robin Hood organization, because Robin Hood stole from the rich to give to the poor. Now reverse Robin Hood would do the opposite of that. They steal from everybody,
Starting point is 00:18:58 and they give it to the few. And that's what they've done by creating inflation, which steals from everybody. Like if you have $100 in a bank account, 4% inflation, oops, now you have $96 in your bank account. Where'd the $4 go? Well, it didn't just disappear. It was stolen, right? And then when you look at the wealth gap charts, you see the wealth gaps just like going crazy. So I was just, I was noticing some people were noticing this whole thing in South Africa
Starting point is 00:19:25 and this huge wealth disparity and talking about how terrible it is. And they noted that 7% of the country has 70% of the wealth. Sounds, it's bad. That's not good to have a wealth gap like that. But let me be clear. According to the Federal Reserve in the United States, 10% of the families own 67% of the wealth. So we're not that far off and you'd have to ask like,
Starting point is 00:19:47 did that just happen because these people are that much more hardworking than everybody else? The answer is no. It's what you described, right? It's that game of monopoly where that, the wealth gap we have is because the Fed handed that money out to rich people. It gave it to them so they could buy more things with it. And here we are. And here we are. And the sad part about that is those those same individuals who are so convinced that they're just that much smarter than the average individual. Now they're exercising that to try to tell the average individual how they need to live their lives. And they look down upon those individuals who weren't born with the same opportunities that they are. And they don't realize the fact that, yeah, you can still, you know, America still has more opportunity than other parts of the world.
Starting point is 00:20:40 That's why some of the best and brightest want to be here. But the roadblocks for those individuals that don't have resources or access to that are much more devastating if they make a mistake. You know, there was a period of time if this was a more equal playing field and a sound, honest money, that's what the Bible would call right scales. And I can't remember the exact phrase, but it's something along, the Lord detests deceptive scales. And guys, I'm butchering that. I'm just trying to pull up the theme that's behind it, because
Starting point is 00:21:16 they are deceptive scales, and they deceive those that are benefiting from them into believing that they're more intelligent than they are, which is devastating for the large majority of those because at some point, we're going to reach the point of diminishing returns where the same things don't work and that system is going to collapse in on itself. And those people who have been struggling to get by and having to pick themselves up, you know, or have emotional resiliency from those minor mistakes that turn into major setbacks are going to thrive on the other side of that
Starting point is 00:21:49 because they're emotionally stronger than those who have this false pride that their money is gonna shelter them from anything that's gonna happen in the future. Right, what's the old saying? None are so poor as those who only have money. Right? You know what's going to get you through? I've never heard that. Your wits, your skills, yeah, your friendships, your health, these are all actually more important to have in a turning point.
Starting point is 00:22:18 So, you know, I do believe, Paul, in gold and silver as a convenient way to sort of like store my wealth. Silver has been very frustrating for me though, because it just, for whatever reason, it seems to start advancing and then it gets these beat downs, which I've long, I see manipulation when I see that. Manipulation to me is when I can clearly detect that somebody is setting prices in a market and they're not, it's not a legitimate price setting function, right? So they can legitimately set prices too high or too low, but for silver, it's always a slam. It's always, it's never like a, wow, it accidentally went up a couple bucks.
Starting point is 00:22:56 It just gets beaten out of nowhere. And so here, TF Metals, my good friend, Craig Hemke is just noticing that in silver here, you see these big giant rundowns, right? And it just happens, this happened at three in the morning, but very typically it happens at 645 central time, right? It just bonk, gets bonked. What's so bad about 645 central time? I don't know, right?
Starting point is 00:23:21 And here it is today. This is a chart from today, which is Wednesday, the 14th of May. And you can see here, let me pull this up a tiny bit so we can see the scale at the bottom. So right when the US markets open at eight o'clock, it's just this waterfall. It's just massive selling. Oh, that's the new price. It's just mad.
Starting point is 00:23:39 It's like magic, Paul. It was magic. It went from 31, just lost a buck, right? And that's the new magic price. And Make Gold Great again is noticing, repeating what Iden said here, said that 60 million ounces of global annual silver supply was dumped in one hour. And that's what happens. Maybe Americans are going to take a big loss in this eventually. So more silver dumped than the U.S. mint has minted in the last three years is all dumped in a single hour.
Starting point is 00:24:10 So that's not price discovery. That's not honest buyers and sellers coming together. That's somebody coming in and water falling the price of silver and manipulating it. And the thing that's frustrating to me about that, Paul, is completely obvious that that's not legitimate price discovery. That isn't some trader getting out of a position because if they are getting out of position that inelegantly they should not be a trader and they violated their fiduciary responsibility And that's what they always trot out there like oh looks like somebody got liquidated like well Then I should be reading about somebody losing their job, right and that never happened
Starting point is 00:24:42 So that's price into manipulation the CF, the SEC never do anything about it. That's a normal functioning market as far as they're concerned. Well, you know, and the reason that I believe I'm trying to give it the benefit of the doubt, but when you look at the liquidations that take place and in when there is no demand, right, there's just not much out there, there's no other way to justify what's taking place outside of they don't care about the price that they're getting for that silver, they care about what they're doing overall to the price of the
Starting point is 00:25:18 silver. Now, the reason they're able to get away with that is because passive investing does not allocate a portion to that indexing doesn't allocate a portion there. So it's a market that's easily controlled. And especially if you have someone that is above the rule of law or examination, you know, every now and then what was it several years back, there were a couple of JP Morgan traders
Starting point is 00:25:41 that were convicted of price manipulation. You know, they'll try someone out there every now and then, there were a couple of JP Morgan traders that were convicted of price manipulation. They'll try someone out there every now and then, but they still have not solved the issue. And especially the historical link between silver and gold and silver has been suppressed. And we know that it's needed in industrial metals and other areas. I mean, the story is there, but what's it done?
Starting point is 00:26:02 It frustrates investors to the point that they put their assets elsewhere because they look here, instant gratification versus this, and they give up. And at some point, those that have been patient and look at the fundamentals will be rewarded when they can't control that market anymore. But they've controlled it a whole lot longer than I've ever anticipated they would. Sooner or later, you you know but that's been a refrain for a long time the point of this is to keep people out of those commodities they don't want people in there they're very excited that Nvidia not to either before or against any particular shares here but it recaptured the three trillion
Starting point is 00:26:38 dollar valuation by going up a couple hundred billion in a single day I'm pointing that in context because it's thought that perhaps, possibly a billion ounces of silver exists above ground right now that you could possibly buy. Well, at $31 an ounce, that's 31 billion. Shaky pinky finger up to the corner of the mouth. 31 billion, that's like a fraction of what NVIDIA alone went up yesterday because Trump went to Saudi Arabia and maybe we'll sell some NVIDIA H100s in Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Whatever the story is, it's just, it's absolutely the case that our attention is always sort of kept focused on certain areas. Those are approved areas to go up very excitedly. But I'm waiting for somebody to write an article from mainstream media about that. Those waterfalls should not be happening. It can't be true that all of a sudden in a freely traded market that a vital commodity is suddenly worth three and a half, four percent less in an hour. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Yeah. And look, I would be sued if a client called me and had a, had a large position in something and said, Hey, I need you to sell this for me. I'm like, okay, I'm going to sell it in the lowest liquidity where the process, where you're going to get the worst process you could possibly get. And then, you know, cause it's so foolish. There's the, I just don't understand it. And there's no way that if that is a trader, that they're going to continue their job, continue to have their job.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And if they didn't lose their job, the manager is going to be fired because there's always somebody who's going to account for those funds and being responsible in those trades to liquidate large portions like that. And you're right. We would hear of the bankruptcies, it would be on the headlines and investors would be impacted if somebody was with that large a money, that large amounts of dollars would impact hundreds, thousands of people unless it's these billionaires and they don't become billionaires by making stupid decisions like that.
Starting point is 00:28:42 And the Federal Reserve at all, the whole system, Washington, D.C., they don't like gold and silver because those represent honest money, potentially. And those are anathema to the overall way of functioning. So, but somebody again has this story wrong because we have these exceedingly strong moves and equities up. At the same time, oil's gone nowhere, copper's wobbled down, gold and silver, commodities in general are taking it here. So one of these two things isn't quite right, right? Because normally commodities go up
Starting point is 00:29:13 because we're about to have this big economic resurgence and so that makes sense that stocks would go up at the same time, right? It used to be called Dr. Copper because you could just follow copper and it would tell you what was happening in the economy. It would diagnose the economy. That's Dr. Copper because you could just follow copper and it would tell you what was happening in the economy. It would diagnose the economy as Dr. Copper because if the economy was picking up, the copper prices would reflect that pretty accurately and pretty early.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I used to follow Dr. Copper. He ain't a doctor anymore. Something's broken in that mechanism. So generally speaking, Paul, I haven't found commodities to be useful bellwethers lately of much. They have not been. The powers that be have so distorted the signals that the investors can use. They've basically created an environment where from a narcissistic standpoint, you need to pay attention to what I say is going to happen more than what's actually happened, because they're distorting everything. And that's not an environment.
Starting point is 00:30:13 It's a terrible evil that we don't have honest and sound money. It's an even more terrible evil that we're in a situation to where, of course, passive investings work, because it's like, hey, you got to trust me. I'm your savior. You can't do this on your own. You have to be passive and put your faith in me. And no man is worth putting 100% of our faith in. Well, speaking of like, is the economy going up or down?
Starting point is 00:30:35 And we'll talk about bonds soon because I think rates are also a discordant note in this story. But before we get there, Kobe SE letter noting the labor market continues to weaken under the surface. So the number of permanent job losses jumped by 105,000 in April to 1.92 million, so highest since October of 2021. So here you can see permanent job losses going up. And it's not—usually they just sort of— they wobble down until you get to a recession,
Starting point is 00:31:05 then they spike, little after spike after that recession in 2000, they come down, started to come up a little bit, that's the 2008, nine recession there, came all the way down, COVID of course, its own little beast. But this is a very unusual period to see, you know, permanent job losses climbing like that.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Not totally distressed areas, these are distressed areas, three, four, five, six, seven million, but definitely not a strong story, I would say. No, not at all. And when you add that with credit card, serious credit card delinquencies are hitting higher levels, the highest we've seen since 2011. It just doesn't justify when you're looking at that data, because the risk is increasing,
Starting point is 00:31:53 but yet you've got these sheer panic purchases and feeding frenzy of equities and this huge fear of missing out, which who knows what's going to unfold, but that's what happens at the start of bear markets you get this massive volatility some of your largest Percentage gains and your largest percentage losses happen during bear markets not during bull markets Some of the biggest returns come towards the end of those bull markets because that's when the fear of missing out takes over discipline is thrown out the window and emotions rule the day.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And you know, if we live our life making emotional decisions, we don't have good outcomes. We don't produce good fruit from that. We have to be disciplined. We have to think about where we're going and we have to follow some type of strategy to help us make consistent decisions over the long term. Well, can we talk about the elephant in the room then, which is what might be different? Obviously, those emotions are greed and fear, FOMO,
Starting point is 00:32:53 and all that. They've been with us since time immemorial, and they've always been a part of trading. And I started, I cut my teeth on reading technical charts, because those are supposed to sort of capture the totality of how investors were experiencing things. And you could chart the FOMO moments.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Humans don't make a lot of decisions anymore, except, obviously, at your level, people will call you and make decisions. But the markets themselves, most of the signal in a market right now is not individuals deciding to do something. It's computers. Yes. And those computers now with AI, don't you, isn't it possible that AI can just clean our
Starting point is 00:33:30 clocks? Like I don't know how I could trade against an AI algorithm. Its speed and precision and its ability to fool me and play on my emotions are going to be like literal light years out of, it's a very asymmetric environment. I don't think I can trade anymore against these machines. No, no. And one of the things that I had talked to the investment committee about several years ago
Starting point is 00:33:53 when I realized the power of computing and the trading algorithms, I said, you know, if I was a major hedge fund, you know what I would do? Is I would go through all the technical charts. I'd take your inverse head and shoulders pattern, your head and shoulders pattern, your head and shoulders pattern, your trend line breaks, your wedges.
Starting point is 00:34:07 You know, there's thousand pages of different psychological patterns represented in books. And you know what I would do? I would put every bear trap that I could and I would force stops and then I would go long. And I would frustrate people because computers can do that. And the other problem with the computers that concerns me is their design. They're not sentient at this point.
Starting point is 00:34:28 So they're designed basically with our own human weaknesses in there to take the most recent paths and project it in the future. There's not a whole lot of really good data about some of these longer term cycles. So even in those algorithms, they may trade fast may trade fast, but they're not. They don't seem to have the ability to look six months out. Like they used to. Like the market used to predict a long time ago, it's a shorter and shorter timeframe, and more speculation than it is anything. But you're right. I mean, there's no way if we were
Starting point is 00:35:02 all trading against an AI interface, it would mop up all of the assets from everyone because it knows how to play our emotions. It knows how to bow our strategies up. And theoretically, if you've got a Fed behind it and enough money, you can take enough losses in the interim period to set up investors to puk all their assets to you? That's a concern I have. You know, increasing the, you know, the headlines like, oh look what the markets have done in the last six weeks. I'm like, I don't know what I'm looking at anymore potentially. Just because I've been, I've,
Starting point is 00:35:37 so we're all waiting over here on my side for Grok 3.5 to come out, which has been pre-sold to us, is, this thing is capable of coming up with information or a response that doesn't exist elsewhere on the net. Like, it's generating its own responses now. We don't know what that means. It could be dog meat, you know, dog poo for a while. But if this thing has suddenly got the creativity of a three-year-old, eventually they have the creativity of a seven-year-old and then an adult, right?
Starting point is 00:36:04 That's just that that's the direction of things so I'm not really clear. What kind of a world we're in with 95% plus of all trading happens because of computers trading with other computers. I don't It's it's like you and I are down here with slingshots Paul and we're watching a dogfight between an you know Su 35 and a f16, you know Paul and we're watching a dogfight between an SU35 and a F16, you know, or an F35 or whatever. I don't know if those are good, but whatever they are. Like it's like, ah, I don't know anymore. I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Now, it's certainly a challenging environment. And this is probably one of the hardest environments that any investor is going to have to face. And think about it, the larger majority of individuals, so 2008 was the last major real bear market we had. Now we had a technical bear market in 2020, a technical bear market here just in the past month, but that's not a real bear market. That's a technicality we're down 20%. It was over in a matter of time. 2000, 2003, 2008. Well, take an average 60 year old right now. That was 16 years ago.
Starting point is 00:37:10 So they were 44, right? They didn't accumulate a large amount of wealth. They're focused on raising kids and generating their career or trying to maximize their career ability. They had a foundation of assets that they have accumulated a large amount now. But if that environment changes, it's going to be ridiculously impactful for those individuals that if it's not different this time and we face a real bear market and they're letting their
Starting point is 00:37:37 emotions, you know, throw wisdom and prudence out the window and piling into this market right now because maybe, hey, maybe if I make an extra percentage, I can retire two years earlier instead of four years out. That's speculation, and that's a dangerous thing to do in this environment right now. Well, it is. So, stocks bonds real estate, we got the big three. We know real estate has gotten a little weak.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Texas we've talked about, before Florida we've talked about, and we had a hint at it, but now it's come in. Washington, D.C., again, from the Kobe AC letter here, you know, surge and record, record surge in homes for sale. So that makes sense, I guess. A lot of people moving out from Washington, D.C., doge, dodge, cut, you know, doge cuts and all that. But it's a smallish market overall.
Starting point is 00:38:24 But generally speaking, you know, I'm seeing general sort of like a stall pattern in almost all markets I'm looking at right now, and some are in decline, which was Texas, Florida, also D.C. So real estate, a little iffy. Jobs a little iffy. So they're not just saying to the moon, you know, put your shades on, the future's so bright, I don't know what to do with it. They can be lagging indicators,
Starting point is 00:38:52 but the other big part is, this is astonishing to me. This is United Health Group, whose CEO, Brian Thompson, was the one who was shot by that Luigi guy. But even this is, it was hanging out at around the 600 level here, just earlier in May, but even this is, it was hanging out at around the 600 level here just earlier in May, sorry, in April, towards middle of April, and then boom, big collapse, big collapse. And this is right where Trump said, oh yeah, hey, we're also going to cut pharmaceutical
Starting point is 00:39:17 prices 30 to 80%. I don't know if that's related to this, but this is pretty magnificent decline here. That's a 50% decline in a very major stock. This is why the Dow has not been quite carrying on to the same extent. So this is speaking to something really bad going on under the surface. And I'm seeing the same thing as well, Paul, across, well, zero hedge here, writing on the 14th of May, like it's dying, Goldman Sachs says of Pharma, Pharma's trading like the new coal.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Remember when coal, 20 year percentage rank, zero percent. Premium or discount to the S&P, minus 18%, but this is kind of interesting looking at this table here because healthcare is trading at a discount, consumer staples, media and entertainment, materials of course, we just talked about financials too, big time, telecom and energy, all trading at massive discounts to the S&P.
Starting point is 00:40:17 So what's up right now? Semiconductors, so it's AI stories, software and services, and I can't tell what that last one is under there. But that's fascinating to me. These are all your defensive plays right here, all of them, and they're all saying they're trading at a mass discount. So this is not just you said FOMO, this is FOMO on, this is like full-on get me in tech, buy anything sort of software or AI related or tech related right now. Yes. And that's been the reflexivity trade since Trump was elected.
Starting point is 00:40:53 We saw a short period of time where value looked attractive. Now I don't know about healthcare. I'll make one comment about healthcare. If they're doing this for the people to fix it, then it's not going to be the number one performing category. Because one hint that we had, you go back to Obamacare being unleashed in 2010, oh, this is going to be great for the people. Well, we can examine the fruit of that right now. We look back and everybody's healthcare is more expensive with less services, but healthcare
Starting point is 00:41:19 was, you know, FXH is one I watched, was one of the best performing sectors in the S&P for the first six, seven years after that. So but again, this reminds me of that 1999 window because the reflexivity investors has been hey, it's mag seven and everybody's got to chase the mag seven. And if you're a money manager in this environment and you've got some investors that are passive in there in a mutual fund, you got to try to track close to the S&P. Well, that's a large percentage of the S&P right now because it's over weighted because of market cap.
Starting point is 00:41:51 So now there's this reflexivity to go back into that and at the expense of value. Well that reminds me again of 1999 Berkshire Hathaway and Warren Buffett was down approximately 19% because of that same environment where we don't want consumer staples, we don't want your energy, we don't want your banking stocks. Back then were considered value stocks. People were selling those and they were chasing the internet. Well, all of those internet stocks changed our lives over the next 25 years, even Amazon.
Starting point is 00:42:22 But it still didn't keep them from going down 80% from on average in the Nasdaq index. I think it was close to 80 from 2000 to 2003. This is the same environment and just another road sign that tells us caution ahead. When value is being thrown out, attractive valuations, long-term lessons in investing says you want to buy a company with good products, good market space for as low a price-trainings ratio as you can to chase these mag-7 stocks because it's pure momentum and feeding frenzy. It's a technical thing from my perspective, but it's causing a lot of investors, I believe to make large mistakes.
Starting point is 00:43:08 And look, I may be a fool in saying that because I don't know how this future is gonna unfold. But I can tell you throughout history, this is a very dangerous place to be throwing those good, high quality companies out that are already attractively priced. Again, I'm not here to pick or choose for or against any particular stock, but there's an incoherence to all of this, right?
Starting point is 00:43:30 So if you like the AI story, and let's say I'm all in, I like, I just love the AI story. So a Nvidia, you know, micro, semi, all that. I love them all. Well, then you have to love energy too, because it's fundamentally an energy story. Yes. It's just that's just and energy is hated right now. So I don't know how you love one hate the other. It doesn't make sense to me.
Starting point is 00:43:52 The other incoherence to me was for better or worse, Tesla took a lot of damage from the people who hated on Tesla because Elon wanted to help cut money from government spending. I'm not sure why that translated into hate of electric cars or Elon, but it did. So their earnings report that just came out, absolute, again, dog poo, right? Real collapses in some markets like Europe and China, like big markets, like real collapse. I'm using the word collapse very politely because it was maybe worse than that. And it's up 25, 26% since the earnings announcement. Right? So again, there's an incoherence to that that I can't make a fundamental argument
Starting point is 00:44:31 for that. So I have to make a different argument. It's a momentum argument. It's a FOMO argument. It's a something, but I've never seen anything. I haven't seen this since the stuff I saw back in 2008. Right. me either. Me either. And I haven't seen it. Which was all center home builders then, right? You had to have home builders. Yes. Toll, home brothers, all that. Yeah, toll brothers and yeah, all those guys. You had to you had to own them. Must haves. Well, I remember in 2008 conversation that I had with a with a client and this this is how this went. Prices had started to soften in the North Georgia mountain area, and they settled down just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:45:10 The client was, you know, we were already defensive outside of commodities at that point, so he's like, hey, you know, they're not making any more land. You know, we're in the southeast here. We've got long-term growth. Everybody wants to be in this area. And look, my son-in-law is an idiot. This is what the Southeast here. We've got long-term growth. Everybody wants to be in this area. And look, my son-in-law is an idiot. This is what the guy said.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And he's made a fortune in real estate. And if he can do it, I can do it. So I appreciate the warning, Paul, but he goes out and buys five houses because prices have pulled back about 10%. I think the final purchase was in April of 2008. And then boom, everything came apart. The plan was to rent a lot of those. Now, luckily, he paid cash for the homes. But even even then rental prices went down, there were people that weren't able to pay rent. He would have been better off looking at the long term picture and being patient and averaging into that instead of that panic.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Hey, I've been missing this. And finally, this is my opportunity. into that instead of that panic. Hey, I've been missing this and finally this is my opportunity. That's what happens at the end of these cycles like this because it's, you know, we get caught up in hindsight bias. For those who like to read about emotional biases, Roff DeBelli has a phenomenal book called The Art of Thinking Clearly, and it's real short reads, but hindsight bias is one we tend to look in the most recent past Hindsight and recency bias and project that in the future. It's just a human weakness that we have And that's one of the reasons it makes it so challenging when we get into these periods of time like we are right now Well Would you say Roth Roth the belly r-o-l-p-h
Starting point is 00:46:43 the belly D-o-b-O-L-P-H de Belli D-O-B-E-L-L-I and it's called I want to read that. The art of thinking clearly. I've read that thing probably I don't know over the past 10 years. It's a short read so you can do it in short little pieces when you wake up in the morning. Great information and it'll help pass on some wisdom to those that are out there about our own emotional biases. It'll help you in many ways Yeah, because I just did a whole piece with evie for uh peak prosperity subscribers on belief systems It's some of the most powerful work i've ever done and not not not this piece. I mean
Starting point is 00:47:14 Some of the most important work i've ever done in my life is investigating How we make decisions what belief systems are how they get amended? Um, you know what goes into them, because what I wanna do is hold beliefs as loosely as possible. It's not that, let me be more clear. I don't wanna reproduce the whole thing, but there are enhancing beliefs. Have them, hold them, right?
Starting point is 00:47:38 Hey, I have enhancing beliefs in my life, right? Like I believe I can learn anything. I believe I'm lucky. Those are good things, right? I'm gonna keep believing those. But there are limiting beliefs you can hold, right? And it was Mark Twain who said it best. He said, it ain't what you know that's wrong that'll get you.
Starting point is 00:48:00 It's what you don't know for sure that just ain't so. Yes, yes. So you can be wrong about stuff, that's okay. But that's not important. It's what you don't know for sure that just ain't so. Yes, yes. So you can be wrong about stuff, that's okay, but that's not important. It's what you don't know that hurts you. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so. So you gotta look into those belief systems and see. So to that end, you know, I was talking,
Starting point is 00:48:21 look at Moderna, just down another 5.7% at 24. Let me back this out to a five year just so we get some magnificent. This thing was all the way up here. This was a $450 stock at one point and now it's a $24 stock. I think it's still overvalued, but that's a personal opinion, not investment advice. But this is clearly saying something's off in this story. And then as well, if we go backwards, let me go back to Pfizer here. Look at Pfizer at 22 bucks now.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Again, from a five year standpoint, you want to talk bear market. This thing was a $60 stock and now it's a $22 stock and trending down also on volume. So these things are, it, there is something, um, very much in terms of if you want to buy the stock market, that's fine. But these sec, this sector right now is looking tough. That is looking tough. And look, I, I'm a big believer. I wish that all of these companies from healthcare to the pharmaceuticals, I know they need funding, right?
Starting point is 00:49:27 And the equity markets provide a lot of funding, but I really wish that they were nonprofits because I want them focused on serving the people with really good products and not have that temptation to cut corners for maximum profits. And if RFK is able to do what needs to be done, those are not going to be good performing stocks. One indication that Obamacare was not great for the people is the fact that
Starting point is 00:49:53 the investments, the healthcare stocks and pharmaceuticals performed so well over that period of time and, and the quality of care got worse and worse for the average American. So I wish they were nonprofits, but I can wish all I want and that's not gonna happen. But if they can gut all of this ridiculous regulations and stacking the profits for the shareholders of those companies at the expense of their customers, then things can be fixed.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And I hope that's what they're doing. I was thrilled about the pharmaceutical announcement executive order that Trump put through. That's one step in the right direction. Yeah. And it was really clever. So they used the most favored nation trading platform for that. So it's a pre-existing agreement that says, da da da da da, Americans shouldn't be paying more than other nations, right?
Starting point is 00:50:47 So they levered an existing piece, and then they put a real carrot on top of that, and then a stick, and the stick was, oh, by the way, if you don't play ball, we're going to allow people to buy their pharmaceuticals direct. So they cut out the whole pharmacy benefit managers, the PBMs, who are the real, they're the people most responsible for driving our
Starting point is 00:51:08 costs out the wazoo. So it's like, listen, play ball or not play ball, but if you don't, we're gonna like pull this option on you. And I think that could be driving some of the behavior we're seeing in the farm aside right now. Because prediction, the pharma people are not going to know how to play ball. They're just so entitled. They think they have the power. They think they can Because prediction, the pharma people are not going to know how to play ball. They're just so entitled. They think they have the power. They think they can wait them out.
Starting point is 00:51:29 They'll just throw more money into the midterms. They think they can sort of muscle their way through this. I'm not sure, the one thing I trust Trump on a lot is that he knows when somebody's getting screwed and he's decided the American people were getting screwed by pharma companies and he's sort of said, yeah, stop that. And I'm pretty sure he's right about that. And I don't think he's going to back down. So I'm really keen to see how this plays out.
Starting point is 00:51:53 No, and I love the fact what was in the press conference. Somebody's like, what about all the money the pharmaceutical companies gave you? And what was it like a hundred million dollars for his campaign or something? But obviously that's not influenced the decision that he's making. He's like, I'm still doing what's best or trying to do what's best for the average American citizen. And not only that, it's going to benefit the rest of the world if we get this fixed as well.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Yeah. So the 10-year back at 4.52, that's a pretty big deal as far as I'm concerned. And the yield was up again on the day here, breaking through what I consider the psychologically important level, 4.5. You can see it bounced its head off of it, bounced, bounced, bounced. It's been there for a while.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Let's go back five days. And here we bounced along just under the 4.4 mark, and here we bounced under the 4.5. But you can see rates are going back up again. And I think this is off script. So here we're going back six months. This was the low at the liberation day panic. And now you can see we're all the way back up.
Starting point is 00:52:54 They were going this way. That was the high back here on early mid January at just around 4.81. Looked like we were headed towards 5% at that point. But I think this is off script, Paul. I don't think this is the right direction as far as the cent is concerned or Trump. There's what, eight, nine trillion that has to be,
Starting point is 00:53:16 and I don't know how much that they've already refinanced and rolled over this year. But the question is, you know, that was the low of the market sell off. But if I remember correctly, when yields went back up there from that V at the 1st of April, there wasn't a back off of the tariff, right? That's the bottom. Follow that up to the high there.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Right there was, if I remember correctly, I'd have to overlay the charts and look at the time, but that was when the Trump puts seem to be on the tenure because that was when they started backing off some of the tariffs and announcing some trade deals and whatnot. And here we are back to that level again. And I'm seeing a little bit of breakout in the short run. So what's the bond market telling us? It's not going to matter until it does. But it sure appears that the bond investors, which are the smartest investors in the room, they just are, are more
Starting point is 00:54:12 concerned about inflation at this point than they are anything. Maybe that's what it's telling us, but those yields want to go higher. And that was something that mattered a couple of months ago. Maybe it doesn't matter now But I don't see how it's not gonna matter with high with all this debt that has to be rolled over this year I mean is it inflation is the concern or is it that the u.s. Has a a spending problem? And that isn't gonna get addressed anytime soon, right? So there we hit a low of 388 on the 4th of April and just a couple days later
Starting point is 00:54:49 on the 9th, on the 5 days later, there we are at 44, you know, and then up again. So here we are at, you know, now we're over the 45 market, 452. It feels like it wants to go higher. And of course, that's going to, that feeds into everything, right? auto loan rates credit card rates mortgages you name it that all keys off the 10-year So something's happening there on the 10-year Paul that I don't I feel like the that's off script I feel like the approved script would be stocks higher gold down oil down Rates down that would be the holy quad effect of what Trump would want from a optics standpoint and bonds aren't playing long here. No, they're not.
Starting point is 00:55:28 And the 30 year was up as well today. So the 30 year is pushing some of the highs that we saw back in the middle of April as well. So rates, so anything extended out on the curve is higher. And what concerns me about that is if you fully believe that they're going to print their way out of this. Now we go back to the tax bill, the big beautiful tax bill that's coming through, right?
Starting point is 00:55:49 What is it increases the debt level by $4 trillion? If I remember, I didn't see what period of time that was, but I know it was 4 trillion. So the raise in the debt ceiling is what it was. That's the proposal. And now you're starting to see the 30 year increase, the 10 year, the 20 year. If I'm really worried about them inflating away this debt,
Starting point is 00:56:13 then I don't wanna own anything that's on the long end. And less demand means higher yields across the board. So we talked last week about how there was a failed German bond auction, but then they changed the terms of the auction last minute and said, success. We win. This is starting, so, Japanese, so there's really only three big players out there in the global market we have to worry about because China's market isn't open.
Starting point is 00:56:41 So they don't have an open bond market. So you got Japan, you got the US, you got Europe. And on this front, the Japanese long-term bonds have doubled over the last two years in terms of interest rate, doubled. And so here we see on the 30-year, they're starting to catch right up. Their 30- and 40-year yields are now over 3% each, and that's a lot. And of course, Japan has a debt to GDP ratio of 251%, and that's just government debt. It's just, it's unbelievable what they're up to
Starting point is 00:57:14 and facing there. And here we can see sort of the scope of this change. This is just in 2025, Paul, look at this. We're down here all the way at 2.55-ish, and here we are now closing in on 3.45. This speaks to something dislocating in that market. That is a massive move in the Japanese market. I think they're going to be fighting hard to try and keep this from really blowing up on them.
Starting point is 00:57:44 As I've often said, it looks like a what? Sorry, that looks like a mag-7 stock performance chart right there. Doesn't it? Yeah. If I bring it up, because if Japan blows up, the whole thing blows up, right? It's just kind of how it's, it's all one big blob market right now, you know, and so there's no fire breaks There's no bulkheads in the ship of states anymore. It's all one thing So these linked markets this says that all I can tell you is somebody is selling these bonds That's it there's and they're selling them kind of at a panic
Starting point is 00:58:22 So somebody out there has said, I really don't want long-term Japanese debt at all. Right. That's all I know. And if that continues, that's one other area of the market where easy liquidity has come in. So if that yen carry trade blows up, that reverses liquidity in the market. And if several other things blow up as well, that just sets off a chain of events that could lead to a crash at some point in the future. Not a projection, just a realistic estimation of what can happen. Well, I mean, it's clear something is creaking popping sound out there. But with their debt to GDP of over 250%, Japan doesn't have any room for error in here. They can't afford higher rates. They just can't afford them because they'll be paying all of their
Starting point is 00:59:09 tax income to pay off the indebted part. And then, oh well, we owe it to ourselves, that whole story. But that gets dicey now. The other part of this that I've been really concerned about is that, you know, Japan is a manufacturing center so they import all these raw materials particularly energy and then they do cool things with it and they do a lot of value add they've got great manufacturing processes they build good cars they do great on chemicals they do good on really good on optics electronics all kinds of stuff but the
Starting point is 00:59:40 whole model is buy the inputs cheap add some value and sell the products a little higher. And that's a great model. Love it. If energy gets a lot more expensive though, that whole model gets pretty dicey. And that's what Europe has just figured out because they didn't have quite as robust a manufacturing process technology. And they're busy getting dismantled right now. I just put this out to my subscribers a few days ago, but in the UK they had this huge offshore wind farm and even with government subsidies and even with a 15-year lockout, they had to abandon the project because they just couldn't, they couldn't make it work
Starting point is 01:00:19 at the stated rate, which was $85 a megawatt hour, which is way more than we pay. And it still didn't work and God bless them, but all Europe can figure out how to do Paul is, well, then we have to like up the subsidies because they just want their wind power, even though it's going to bankrupt them and ruin their manufacturing. I guess they're going to miss out on the AI race with all these data centers and the energy that it consumes if they're already in a bind with their electricity production. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:00:50 They will. Yeah. So they'll be left behind again because of theoretical thinking. Well one of the things, Trump was just in Saudi Arabia, inked a bunch of deals, $148 billion for military stuff, which I'm not a huge fan of. Like, they're all excited. Oh, look, we sold $148 billion of military hardware.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I'm like, not exciting. However, he inked a deal, too, where they're going to be buying a lot of Nvidia's chips. So I think that was part of the excitement. But that's a natural fit, because, of course, you know, they've got all this energy to convert into electricity if they want. And then I don't know if you saw, but this was really remarkable to me big time was that Trump basically came in and said, this was astonishing. He says, we're very sorry.
Starting point is 01:01:35 He almost didn't say I'm very sorry, but he said people from the West, including neocons have come in and done terrible things to the Middle East and have acted very disrespectfully, and let's do this differently going forward. And he just wanted to reset all of that. But he called the neocons out on purpose for wrecking countries and not really appreciating the other cultures. He was treated like a rock star.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Purple carpet, color guard, horses with American flags, standing ovations. I mean, it was really like a big deal, but he basically said we're resetting this whole relationship here If I had to place my money on the table black or or red and Red is the Middle East. I'm putting my money on red compared to black, which is Europe Oh, absolutely, and I did not know that he said that, but that's what we need to be doing. We need to work with everyone and bring it together instead of coming in and dictating and with pride saying, we know better than you. So, and I also heard he got a lot of
Starting point is 01:02:34 tremendous number of orders for Boeing as well. So I know they got a good deal out of that. He's a deal maker. He likes his deals. He goes around, he cuts deals. I've never had a president who just goes around cutting deals, but it's what he does. But the resetting of the tone of that relationship was pretty, pretty big. It's actually pretty exciting. I'm glad for that because I would much rather. So China, as we've talked about before, their strategy, Paul has been just running around the world, making friends with with their checkbook diplomacy. And I've just been like, why don't we do that? Well, now we're doing it.
Starting point is 01:03:09 So we'll see how that plays out for us. But I'm a big fan of that. Rather than threatening people, find the win-win and find the way that we can both do better as a consequence of that relationship and try that for a while. So I'm pretty hopeful for that. I hope that that gets us somewhere. I'm hopeful too. And how nice is it that we're hearing about deals
Starting point is 01:03:28 that were done for the American people and CEOs were going over there to try to better for the average American versus making deals for their own foundation and their own family members to sit on boards and all of this stuff. That's a pretty big trend. We're gonna have to watch that carefully because I think there's something coming from that. But you know obviously that
Starting point is 01:03:47 was to begin to forestall that China's making a lot of inroads doing the same strategy so I think we kind of had to make a little pivot but it was it's pretty intense. Look at all the things that are pivoting right now and who knows how it's gonna play out so that's why we got to be nimble. Make sure you understand the risks. Watch thes, you know the signs very carefully because this could go either direction It's pretty it's this is a delicate time, you know It's like the butterflies just got its wings out of the chrysalis like it's like puff a wind and this doesn't work out quite Right, you know, so and all of this is great
Starting point is 01:04:20 You know and that and that would be great for the economy from a long-term standpoint for the US. My biggest concern is just the ridiculous valuations and how expensive this market is, because we can have the best economic outcome for labor in this country, but still capital pays a price. So if we get back to normal valuations, just average price, that could be 30% below where we are. So let's say, hey, this is great and increases the revenue and business opportunities
Starting point is 01:04:52 and employment within the United States. Well, that still means that this equalization means labor is probably gonna creep up a little bit and cost is gonna creep up in the US, which may reduce demand, which causes profits for corporates to be a profit margins to squeeze a little bit and you see prices come down. So this could be great for the labor, the average American at the expense somewhat of capital within the United States.
Starting point is 01:05:19 That's one of the concerns that I have about this. I like what's taking place, but it's a completely different environment than what we've been seeing over the past 10 to 15 years where it's been at the expense of labor for the benefit of capital. Let's hope that labor gets its turn at the at the table. Right. Finally. The people, the people of this country deserve a few wins. It's just been way too long without any wins with health care treating us like farm animals at best and you know at worst worse than that and with you know the Fed just doing what it's doing and just throwing whole generations under the bus with nobody challenging them. That always
Starting point is 01:05:58 bothered me Paul that you like the all these scribes out there like so Jerome Powell how much do you think the economy is really gonna be amazing, right? It's like they should be asking them questions like hey, you just threw an entire generation under the bus I get it. You want to rescue house prices, but How what happens with these people right So I'm glad that we can actually have these conversations again, and I know it's gonna be tricky and perilous Like all good adventures involves a little bit of danger. It may not go the way we hope that's right
Starting point is 01:06:33 That's right. And when you're in uncharted territories, you're gonna learn new things and you're gonna discover new things so this is a completely different environment that we find ourselves in and So but but I'm excited about the opportunity and, you know, things that are taking place. We're back to focusing on reality instead of theory at this point. If we could get back to the root causes of things, stop the Fed from printing and don't let markets be run roughshod by price manipulators, right? Just get back to sound money, free markets. I believe in both of those things enormously.
Starting point is 01:07:07 We haven't had them in a while. It would be great if we could get back to them. Anything else is just sort of band-aids and window dressing, so I'm kind of hopeful that we can go deeper than that, but we'll see, one thing at a time. And I know this is a courageous and I may look like a fool from saying this, you have to examine your own situation, But we're in an environment right now where we went
Starting point is 01:07:28 from peak pessimism to extreme pessimism to extreme optimism. And we're kind of back to that reflexivity of the magnificent seven, but yet the underlying environment is changing. You've done a great job of explaining the issues with energy from a long-term standpoint, I do encourage individuals take this opportunity if you have it. And it's a scary thing to do. Be prudent, don't speculate. Get your emergency funds in order, make sure that you you're in a position. If you have some debt, reduce that debt as much as you can right now It's not the missed opportunity in the short run that's going to cause you to be unsuccessful But but if if this is a false typical bear market rally and we've gone from a bipolar
Starting point is 01:08:15 Extreme to extreme pessimism to extreme optimism And we still have some reality that's gonna have to unfold over the next six months, because Trump has made it clear there's going to be some pain in the short run for long term. And maybe we get through this. Maybe we get through this with instant gratification, but it's highly unlikely that we do here in the interim period. So really good decisions made today will produce fruit for years ahead, but they may not be instant in that gratification.
Starting point is 01:08:46 So I do encourage investors, if you were losing sleep at night and on the verge of panicking with that sell-off that occurred in February, or February, early April on the tariff tantrum, then consider reducing your exposure enough to where if that shows up again, that you can sleep with some peace at night. Nothing better than a good night's sleep right Paul? Right, right, be in the right position. All right well that's all the time we have today. Thank you for being here again if you want to talk to Paul and his amazing team just go to peakfinancialinvesting.com there's a very simple form to fill out won't take take but a minute. And then within 48 business hours,
Starting point is 01:09:27 somebody from Paul's team will get back to you, schedule a discussion. So with that, Paul, thanks so much for your time today. Always a pleasure, Chris. Have a blessed day. Likewise. Bye-bye. Music

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