Pendejo Time - boycott target (Ft. Will Menaker)

Episode Date: June 1, 2023

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yeah it's our own little own little process yeah yeah you hear three two one you know the pendejo boys are coming yeah yeah you hear a t-minus you know you're on pendejo time folks we're back with uh your free weekly episode of pendejo time uh special guest will minikers joining us thank you will hello thank you will for have for coming on i was uh i was hoping that you would you say special guests i i saw um i saw danny mcbride went on shane gillis's podcast and i i was like like seeing danny mcbride like outside of acting and i always forget he just plays himself in like every role like he was like what's up cocksuckers? And I was like, oh, you're not. You're never acting.

From Tropic Thunder, Eastbound and down, you're just like a guy who got picked up from a Florida State University kegger. Hollywood was like, you're just going to be that guy. Slate variations on that guy. The baseball player version of that guy, the religious version of that guy, and the one whose every ambition and life's dream has been thwarted that guy yes yes yeah yeah his uh i feel like him and burt burt kreischer are like kind of like older younger brother same same breed of guy like they're just the the dude who like you're supposed to stop shotgunning beers at 30

and then just never you just kind of kept it going i know several of them in my my personal life and uh not as funny as danny but anyway um he's done i wanted to do things with it yeah i i wanted to ask you will if you if you've seen the Boycott Target rap song. Yes. That's been... Oh, man. That's been... Oh, have I? It's on my phone. It's my ringtone now. I love it.

I think... I have these instances where I feel like I make my girlfriend worse because I play it really loud all the time. And now both of us walk around the apartment and we're like target is targeting my kids like and she sings it to me and i sing it to her and i'm like dude i'm not contributing to her personal growth it's a it's a bop you know it it simply goes i can't say i i support the message but you know good music is just good music well i i kind of transcends i feel like feel like in 100 years, people aren't going to think about the politics behind it. They're just going to hear it. Good music. It's my favorite thing when something like that happens,

be it a movie with Kevin Sorbo where he kills a bunch of trans women and then everybody's like, it's the best movie I've ever seen in my life. That song, they were linking it and One America News like, it's the best movie I've ever seen in my life. That song, they were linking it, and One America News was sharing it. First of all, I saw an article from One America News that was like, Christian rapper Forgiato Blow, which is a very funny sentence to read. The name of the coolest rims you can put on an Impala and then a slang term for Coke.

Christian rapper Cocaine Ferrari. rims you can put on an impala and then a slang term for coke christian rapper cocaine ferrari he uh that and then like the replies from like soccer moms and like black rifle coffee company guys that are like i've been listening to this all day it's like our your rhymes are very based yeah yeah it's like i i know like back in the day like post 9-11, you got that Toby Keith song like, we'll put a boot in your ass. That song was catchy. It had something to it. But I do not believe I'm with you, Jake. I do not believe that these soccer moms and dads are like are bumping the the Target rap anthem, the Foggiato Blow, MAGA America anthem.

Or, you know, who's the other one tom something tom mcdonald yeah yes yeah he's like the guy i love him because he's he pretends to be like a 70 year old man he'll be like this generation just doesn't get it this generation of americans and he's like a he's like a 28 year old canold Canadian. Yeah, he's my age. It's the type of stuff, like, the kind of stuff you have to pretend to like to adopt that cultural view of the world. Like, you have to be like, oh, I watched Kevin Sorbo's newest movie, you know, Antifa Destruction. And I really felt that it was so well written, and it was an incredible cinematic experience. Kevin Sorbo's newest movie, Antifa Destruction.

And I really felt that it was so well written and it was an incredible cinematic experience. It's like, it's the same way all of these guys are going to start pretending that they like artificially generated art or like artificially generated movies where it's like, you know, it's just the mouth moving and they're like, I am your friend. You are very nice to me. And they're like, this is amazing.

This is mind blowing. Oh, yeah. I like that. I saw one where it was like, this is an AI video of fame of some of the world's greatest minds giving advice. And it was like Isaac Newton, but with like the 2009 app that would like make like put a smile over like an existing pictures yeah and it would yeah he was like believe in yourself and do your best and there are guys there are guys in the replies who were like whatever abraham lincoln said that to be something is to be somebody that really made me think about like how my time um with mckinsey has really molded me as a

person and as an altruist also the the one that was it was like bill gates debating socrates yeah and i was and people were like we're gonna get the best the best podcast that that we could have never have gotten and i was like man we're it's getting it's, the best podcast that, that we could have never have gotten. And I was like, man, we're, it's getting, it's getting bad. Like I hate to be a dude,

like a doom and gloom guy. Oh no, I'm with you a hundred percent. I see this stuff and I see, I see humanity circling the drain. I feel we are flushing our brains down the toilet. It's like, it's Slavosh Zizek versus Jordan Peterson.

And they're AI debating which chipmunk is getting the best. Yeah. The real version of Socrates debating Bill Gates would be Socrates going, you can get blackmailed for that? Yeah. I was like imagining Slavoj being like, you can see Alvin is getting clearly the best blowjob. And you can see, by the way, that he's getting the pepper grinder twist.

The way that he's getting the double, double quirk quirk. I'm very disturbed. I'm very disturbed because the look on Alvin's face is one of pain. It's one of anguish, but also ecstasy because clearly the top is so sloppy he can't he can't handle it i like i again like i have to sometimes i'm like all right this stuff only exists on the internet no one is really like this and but then I'll go to the gym. And I know BJJ guys are not a good group of dudes to be like, no, online isn't real.

To be sort of a cultural barometer. Yes, right. I go to the gym and I'm like, all right, I'll see 4G out of a blow, a.k.a. his current name, Trump's nephew, which, by the way, amazing. Unc and Nep. Yeah. KKK nephew.

I'm like, all right, nobody's really making raps about Adrena Chrome. And then I go to the gym, we stretch out, I work out with these guys, and I'm sitting down and drinking my water, I'm recovering, whatever the fuck, and one of them is like, hey, did you see the Boycott Target song? I was listening to it on the way here, and I'm like,

I feel like I'm in the worst version of The Truman Show. We're like, it's not really, it's mostly just for my own torture. It's not for entertainment so much as like, imagine being gang-stalked by everyone from Florida. That is what it currently feels like. But Thomas, your point that, you know, good music is just simply timeless, regardless of the political message.

I'm hoping that in like 40 or 50 years time, when they make movies about the 2020s, they will use target is targeting our kids in the same way that they use, there's something happening here like about like any movie about the 60s or the social strife of a different era it becomes fortunate son yeah for like all of the like jamba juice like um riots between like like blue-haired social media managers and like you know guys with pots and pans on their head i uh i i remember thinking

like after january 6th i was like i thomas and i have talked about this a little bit like i feel like i could have easily became one of those guys like at a certain age like if i had a few inputs had been uh changed yeah like yeah like if i, like, 15 and somebody showed me an Andrew Tate video, I would have been like, dude, yeah. Like, I'm not on a boat and I'm not getting zero pussy. Which is, you know, not because I'm 15 and I live in Texas. It's because I'm a loser. And now, like, having seen it just devolve from that. Like, this is only two years gone from Mr. Tate.

It's devolved even more to, like, a big, fat, like, Florida cocaine dealer being like, they're cutting those kids' peepees off, and I'm here in Target. Dude, he went on an interview with, what's her name, Laura Ingram, I think. And he was like, yeah, you know yeah you know no no forgiato blow yeah yeah and he was like yes forgiato here forgiato blow aka trump's nephew aka christian maga mayor of magaville um i just i'm out here taking care of the children and it's like no that's my mother. He doesn't have kids. I mean, I'd be. I know he does. I mean, I don't know. Like most of these people don't have kids.

He's also the type of guy. He looks like a line cook at a restaurant that would offer the hostess an ETAB to put in her butthole. Like he's the kind of like like overly like, yeah, baby girl. Like I got my own apartment. Like a like a 34 year old line cook talking to the hostess yeah i don't know if you know but like when you get my age you can have your own car and you can you can live on your own and i got a scarface poster and i pay for that by my damn self and he's on the news now or some version of the news like yeah i was in the target parking lot and I saw a lady that was tall as hell. And I said, and I like,

I don't, I don't, I don't know. It's, uh, I mean, it's, it's not,

I think the people like, like the, like the moms and did that to pretend that they like this stuff or that it's like that their grandkids are listening to it because like they feel so, uh, alienated from the culture. They need to like retcon examples of things that are seemingly cool and popular and retcon them into being like, oh, we all like this.

Everyone is boycotting Target. It's like all the cool people are doing it. I'm going to pivot to the liberal version of that, which is just replying to his music videos with, does this guy not realize we're in a whole ass pandemic for giotto where's your mask sir are you not he was wearing a mask at one point he like people thought he was wearing a mask but it was just a feed bag of kettle corn that he just kept around yeah he was walking around he has like the blinders that you'd put on a Clydesdale

he's just like the uh dude the also some of the replies do you remember um the uh yo I was at the barbershop and they were talking about oh yeah the classic Liz Warren black barbershop but who could forget yeah they're they're republican versions of that guy. Who's like a, a, you're like a black dude. It's like, Hey, this, this goes. And I'm like, I'm like, man,

I, I don't have any room to comment on your experience, sir. Obviously, but I feel like you're also lying. Like I'm not, I'm not an arbiter of good hip hop. Like,

you know, I thought I was cool because I listened to a tribe called quest in high school like i don't but also i'm like are you like bumping this in the whip sir excuse me sir are you are you bumping this in the in the fucking mercury i don't i don't think that you are and they they were saying they reached number one on itunes charts i'm on the phone with itunes right now. Yeah, well, I was talking to my friend Ben. Shout out to Ben Avery, host of Lemon Party. Check that out.

We were talking about how they had a bunch of Chinese salary men doing the streaming farms, and they're just pressing play on Boycott Target like over and over again, and they're just trying to jump out the window but hitting the net at Foxconn, then just like taking the elevator back up like another day you know another day another dollar uh uh like the guy who's uh like showing out that he like yo this is fire if you were in his car with him and fogiato blows music came over his

car that would be the only time you could change the channel you could you could fuck with his was on the radio while he the radio to it in his car he was uh so 4g auto was in that what was that kid he got got or he got he did some bad stuff got the callahan kid i forget his name i don't anyway he was 4g auto blow was in that kid's documentary and he straight up copped it was very much like a a q the q documentary thing where he was like yeah i don't know really much about this stuff but i'm just on the i'm on the side of where the action's at this was like when that documentary came out it was filmed like a year ago what documentary was this oh oh that oh

right right right yeah yeah andrew kelly yeah yeah channel five yeah so forgiato was on that and he was in there and he was like yeah i don't really fuck with all that politics stuff, but I'm just going where the action is, where the attention is. So I guess everyone just threw that. I mean, I don't think people from One America saw that documentary, so they probably don't even know that this guy straight up like 16 months ago was like, dude, I'm straight up lying to you guys. I need money bad. I've been snorting that shit since 2002 and i'm broke as hell and uh i'm a christian now by the way he has suburban uh suburban problems tattooed on his chin or like suburban uh suburban devil i don't Yeah, yeah. Chowing down.

It's like a... They call me Taz of the suburbs. I bet he just fucks some absolute dogs off his tits. Yeah, like... It's like the JFK Jr. guy. I'm obsessed with the JFK Jr. guy because I think the amount of MAGA milf pussy that guy must must must just eat oh my god he's supposed to be rolling in it because like he's dead right yeah well i mean depending on who you ask no no i mean i mean the

i mean the the dude who um people thought was jfk no he's still around he died right no he's still i thought as far as i know he's still around. He died, right? No, as far as I know, he's still around. I don't know. I thought he died like five years ago for some reason. I think I saw a fake story about him. They want to stop him from getting pussy. They're saying he's dead. I think I saw a fake story that said there were like 50,000 people at

fake RFK's funeral, which I believe I've been duped on that one. I'm like making fun of QAnon people. I'm i'm like dude you know he got assassinated right fucking cia speaking of rfk i i love that like everybody is so desperate like and i say everybody i just like a lot of people i know in real life and then like from the computer are so like i i it's this happens in texas too with people like beto or like you're so desperate for somebody that's not a psycho like i have friends that are like have you watched rfk speak and i'm like and they're like he's got a lot of great stuff to say and i'm like i don't think

so like not with that voice it's like yeah yeah yeah but it's like the same shit that happened um with like andrew yang or whatever like uh like i had like friends of mine who i like you know i guess kind of respected or whatever we're like hey have you heard about this yang guy i'm like no i don't know i have to look into that. Yeah, I remember. And it was I was like kind of in community college whenever Yang was like becoming a thing. And it was all the same guys who would be like, have you ever listened to Logic? Yeah. I'd be like, oh, I've heard of him. Yeah, he's got some.

He certainly makes music. He certainly. So when I was in when I was going to grad school, there was a booth, a turning point booth. And, uh, there was a guy standing out there and handing out pamphlets. And he was like, would stopping people. And he was like, we're having a gay black conservative come on campus to talk about Christian values.

And, uh, I was like, you know, whatever. I just like walked by. But they started beef with the Andrew Yang booth because the Andrew Yang booth was like giving away snacks, doing the like UBI thing. Like I guess poor, you know, like Dollar General, UBI, like here's some sunglasses and some Chex Mix or whatever the fuck. And they were like yelling at each other from across the booth like,

oh, you guys want to do socialism, but you only have, that's what's going to be, is going to be Chex Mix and sunglasses. And I was like, that's a pretty good burn. That's not bad. And then the other guys were like, oh, you're bringing on a gay black man to talk about like Christian. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is like. They were like, alright,

well, your guy's fucking gay. Yeah. Well, that's what it kind of sounded like to me but i think you just didn't it was like oh you don't like math well your guy sucks cock yeah yeah yeah but i remembered thinking like like everybody is so again to the point of mr forgiato like i don't think anybody has any genuine view of the world i this is my take as as a guy who you know just as again circling the drain or whatever i'm like do we have are these like guys you would vote for or do you just like think the other guy is a gay loser like i was talking with a friend about this like with the writer strike great example like do you actually don't agree with

the strike or do you just think writers and creative people are gay losers like it's same thing with the vaccine like i knew a lot of people who were anti-vax because they got duped into like facebook groups but i also knew people who were just anti-vax because they thought it was gay like they were like i'm not getting that it's for for gay liberals. And I was like, oh, like this isn't a political thing for you. You're just like, you're like, no, this thing is for gay doo-doo heads. And I'm strong. My favorite within the skilled labor industry that I encountered was, I don't even know what a vaccine is.

I encountered a few of those where i was like hey man i i think you do i think you've been he's like how does it work i think i think for most of them it's really simple i think that's why they have so many i think it's like i think it's an easy process he's like the uh the my favorite it's like if you've. If you've ever worried about polio, like no, then okay. I think you can take Ezra's vaccination. That's how they work. You're not worried about polio right now. Yeah.

But the same mindset where it's like if I got polio, I would just get up and walk. Yeah. I'm different. They don't understand that about the boy. I could go in that public swimming pool in 1931, and I'd just swim around like a fish, walk fine, rest in peace. Gargle with the water.

I don't know. I mean, like you said, so many people decide things based on, like, is the person or group of person associated with this gay losers, in my mind? And I don't know. I think people feel so, I don't know, bewildered by the millions of choices that it seems like they have, but really any important choice is taken away from them. So rather than try to, I don't know, suss out for themselves. I mean, I'm not even blaming people.

It's just like it's an easy shorthand to figure out the universe. Because I'm not going to. I'm thinking for myself personally. I'm not going to do all the research on vaccines. I just generally believe doctors. So, I mean, you could make a case that vaccines aren't real or that they're poison or whatever. But the people who say that I regard as mostly gay losers, whereas doctors are only half gay losers. Yeah.

I mean, I, but there's also like an aspect of it too, where you're like, I don't have anything in common with a group of people who pretend that, uh, a guy named Forgiato Blow is a Baptist man. Like, I, I, like, I don't like, I don't have anything in common. And again, like it being asked, being asked by a girl that I went to high school with who works at Outback Steakhouse. If I did my research on spike proteins is one of the funniest things. Like, like, like to be like, I don't know. I did not do any research on spike proteins or MRNLA. Right.

Like as much as I could digest, I suppose. Like, I'm not a guy who's like, you need to wear. Why aren't you wearing it? Why? I'm not even one of those guys. Like, I'm like, you know, whatever. But the point I'm trying to make is, like, being asked by somebody who you used to do keyboard cleaner with. asked by somebody who you used to do keyboard cleaner with like a guy that i used to inhale like butane with is like hey i just want to ask you a question man have you looked

have you done your research no and neither have you neither neither of you taylor i gotta see it i gotta see in every math and science class i've ever taken. Yeah, yeah. We spent the entirety of remedial biology, brother, hiding out in the closet doing whippets and laughing at all the dead frog bodies. Like, you and me are not, like, we're not breaking any new ground or whatever. Plus, also, I would get, whatever research I would pick up,

I would get probably from the internet, which, you know, reputable or not, who knows? Whatever research you would get would be from a Facebook group called like Fat Bikers for Christ. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's not I'm not trying to belittle Fat Bikers for Christ. I'm sure they're great guys, but there's no again like the going back to the to the target song i just like we're not uh i feel like we're just like uh like like running in circles or whatever the fuck same shit like i i i feel like i'm in groundhog day i don't know like every day i wake up um and it was you know it was ivermectin. And then it was this thing.

And then now it's Target. And then it was Bud Light. Like, I don't know what next week's going to be, but I just, I don't know how to escape it. I could log off, I suppose. But, like, a good portion of my income now is from the internet. You know what I mean? So you're like, can I log off? You know?

I don't know. I mean, whether it's, like, the RFK JrK Jr. thing like I think a lot of people like are they're just so desperate for something that seems authentic or just like to be saved from the fate of feeling guilted into voting for Joe Biden again like I think anyone would like that opportunity but like you know it's difficult because like look I RFK Jr. does say some sensible things like, hey, like maybe we shouldn't be like funding this proxy war with Russia and Ukraine. But then like, he'll stick to the idea that like 320 million Americans were like fatally

poisoned by some fucking like toxic vaccine. And I don't know. I mean, like, so when people hear that, they just think like, oh, there must be something to it. And, you know, I mean, he sincerely believes it. So, yeah, it's like when uh like when jesse ventura was like cia is bad it's not good and i was like all right i can get behind that and he then he was like uh you know barack obama sold cocaine in hawaii and is bisexual i'm like that maybe i don't

know could be and i'm but i'm like but everything he he says, you kind of step a little bit away from him. He gets sweatier. He gets angrier. And then by the end of it, it's the same shit. It feels like we're living in a time where all reality is just totally up for grabs. And people are just like, you know, it's like the like, you know, when we look at baseball stadiums or like public events and they put people in like that phone booth and like money just blows around and you have to grab as much as possible and stick it in your pockets i feel like that's how people are with just like information and reality now people can just grab as much of it as they want for themselves and it's just this weird

patchwork like i think most americans beliefs are like very weird like people don't really have like coherent ideological political beliefs for the most part like most normal americans who you know if they follow politics at all it's just something like vaguely something that happens elsewhere that they're vaguely aware of so like their beliefs are that like donald trump definitely did commit high crimes in office but that he shouldn't be impeached or in prison for it or that like gay marriage is totally fine we love gay people but like gay people shouldn't be allowed to use public swimming pools or that like gay marriage is totally fine. We love gay people, but like gay people shouldn't be allowed to use public swimming pools or something like that. Yeah. Well, we've definitely entered a new,

like I saw somebody the other day, it was like a gay conservative guy that was like, hey guys, you know, if they're selling pride merch during pride month, you know, it's not like degeneracy. And he was like a check mark gay conservative who had like i'd recognized him from fox news it wasn't dave rubin it was one of the other ones dude his replies were like you're a degenerate sick fuck and i can't wait for you to die and i i want these

like gay conservative guys to realize this isn't 2010 anymore like there's no space for you like there was a there was good money to be made maybe, like, seven to ten years ago by being like, I suck, dick. And I also believe in a free market. And then, like, there was room for you. Clip that. Yeah, clip that for the show. Though, I don't know if you know this, Will, but somebody DMed the Pindea Time account, like, a year ago. I don't remember what I say on here.

I had no idea. But it was just me saying, I love furry porn and I love Hitler. I had no idea. Like, I just, and I was like, oh, thanks. So anytime Thomas has clipped that, I just, like, wait patiently for somebody to message me saying, you know, I suck dick and I love the free market. But anyway, like, there's no, there's, we've, like, we're, like, gleaming the cube beyond the pale. Like, there's no, there's no space to be, a milo yiannopoulos guy well like the gay conservatives like i mean like they're trying to get a wedge in by just being like extra mean to trans people like they

just want to like sever yeah like you know like uh like trans people from like the the broader like you know gay lesbian queer community but it's just like all the people that want to put them in concentration camps like you're next like you're next on that short list as soon as you do that buddy like right and also i'm like do you do you want to hang out with these people like do you want to hang out with strip mall dentists and herbalife moms and like do you because like for me a group of people that really know how to party gay guys and just like they they have a good time you know they're they're fun loving free-spirited like cool dudes you want to ingratiate yourself to a community where they listen to like luke bryan

and like they wear fucking boots with like athletic shorts no No disrespect, Thomas. I know that's one of your favorite fits. But Thomas is like, fuck you. No, but like they, you know. I wore that today. I wore that to work today. Yeah. It's that guy's fucking career, man. Get it. And like they buy Raptors and they drive them around the neighborhood like you want to hang out with those people like the most fucking sanitized, boring, fucking like two Michelob's at dinner.

People like what do you what part of their lifestyle do you want? And I know that there's money. Like, the end of the thing is money. Like, again, like, that guy who, I don't know what they go by now, but the person who was transitioning, I think the name's, like, Ali something. Oh, yeah, the guy who, like, got plastic surgery to look like a Korean, like, to look like a K-pop star. Yeah, he got epicanthic folds. And then he transitioned, and then now goes on TV to tell people how insane

and degenerate this all is yeah yeah i'm like i'm sure you're getting paid a pretty penny i don't know like when i think about like uh like a guy like dave rubin for instance like who's clearly like not well liked among the community of i don't know like otherwise creative intelligent uh well-to-do gay people in los Los Angeles but like if you can adopt the persona of like oh I I left all that like I'm still gay but like I'm here to tell you like the people who hate gay people that you're all your prejudices are correct and you know like you're actually the smart funny people I mean I don't know I think there may be an element of like feeling rejected by I don't know cool gay culture that like they're like oh for sure for sure. You know, like I'm going to I'm going to show them I'm going to start my own scene.

That's even cooler than theirs. It just happens to be with, you know, people who want to kill me. A lot of those guys like Steven Crowder and Tim Pool, like they weren't like this eight to nine years ago. They were like YouTube guys and comedians. And you I think you realize like if Owen Benjamin to like if you're not like a guy Benjamin was like Mike Dude he was fucking Dimitri Martin. Yeah, he's like Hitler Nazi dude, I said make sense to me cuz he didn't pivot from anything. He was no like a he was like a Nazi. It didn't even make sense to me because he didn't pivot from anything.

He was just like a soft. He was a huge pussy. He was married to Christina Ricci. Yeah. I'm not calling him a pussy, but he wasn't like a masculine type guy even. He needed to put on a front like that. I watched a video of his. I went to his Instagram page because i have a

a friend who kind of knew him peripherally and uh you know told me he was like have you seen his videos lately and i was like no and i went on there dude and he is tweaking tweaking yeah tweaking dude and like i'm not saying like oh bro's tweaking i'm like no he's on like like it looks like adderall i know what adderall looks like and what adder not saying like oh bro's tweaking i'm like no he's on like like it looks like adderall i know what adderall looks like i know what adderall feels like and he's trying to explain to people that he's normal and he's like so airplanes fucking airplanes guys check this out they want to tell you they're powered by gasoline no that's free energy that's nuclear fission and they're hiding it and then that was his monologue his next one is like gay people just leftists hate

normal human beings like me they hate normal americans and i'm like i didn't notice he was on like a a flat earth kind of kick but he was like what if it's more interesting than a a disc versus a globe what if it's like a cone or something it's always more complicated than what you think yeah i like i i told thomas about this this is like tangentially related but i um trained at this gym in austin that's frequented by like rogan acolytes and guests on the show and big-time fans of his. And the guy who started that franchise is called Tenth Planet. His name's Eddie Bravo. He is like a flat-earth dinosaurs or fake guy. And, you know, weirdo, pothead,

one of those guys who's been smoking weed since 1980. He swears up and down, it doesn't give you psychosis. And then every now and then he's like, you know. Anyway, there's a guy I went to the gym with there. Nice dude. I watched him over the course of two years, across the pandemic, become the FBI's wet dream dude. He posts on Instagram, like in between pictures of his children, he will post a picture of Fauci. And he's like, the only way we handle this is public execution.

I've been stockpiling guns I've been taking CQC courses and I've been doubling up my fucking lifting weight like we need to get after it I do not understand what we're doing and people are in his comments like hey man like I'm all for like hey we like Fauci needs to go to jet like like right wing guys and then he's like 10 steps. And he's like, you guys are a bunch of fucking coward, spineless pussies. We need to kill human beings. And I'm like, and his, but also his wife will respond to like, then the next day he'll post

a picture of him and his kids like at Barton Springs. And he's like having a great goddamn day. And his wife is in the replies, like, look at handsome and look at those two handsome boys. And in the post after that is a picture of Hillary Clinton holding a red bag of blood, clearly photoshopped. And he's like, this is who you voted for. She's been fucking God, dude, for like five years. Like no one gives you shit about her anymore.

Well, that's what I mean by like people hold like wildly contradictory ideas in their head because like if you really believed all this was true, like you wouldn't be going to like bush gardens with your family like if you thought that a global holocaust was about to happen you wouldn't be like otherwise going on with your daily life in between threatening to kill government officials on instagram yeah yeah yeah yeah well like part of like i just read i know that you guys have a i i had talked with Matt a little bit about this at one of the shows, but I just finished Program to Kill. Great book.

I loved it. I know some people think it's a little shaky or whatever, but I finished that book, and I immediately thought of him, and I was like, dude, they're getting his ass. Like, he's getting fucking – I'm watching this. Like, Dave McGowan, say what you will about the guy. Like, I know some people consider some of his stories dubious or speculative. Is the thesis of that book that the serial killers of an earlier generation were largely influenced by intelligence services,

like sort of MKUltra shit? I've never read the book. So the general thesis, he reaches a lot with like the satanic stuff but the thesis external from the spiritual aspect from it is is that he find he found it very like an interesting coincidence that the golden age of serial killers came from the same era area and the same time and same era as the ashbury clinic as bridgewater as vacaville as all these hospitals and free clinics that were doping veterans that ended up being serial killers with large amounts of lsd it's the same thing as uh aberrations in the heartland of the

real with timothy mcveigh this idea that like you know maybe it wasn't a complete full-blown conspiracy but like you can push already brittle men to do psychotic things uh and that's what i took from it uh or whatever but but seeing somebody basically like seeing like like i'm like whatever like people think like certain fbi things like certain shootings or whatever or like conspiracies or they're organized i don't know i don't have an opinion on that really but like when i i see guys i know you see guys that used to know like auditioning to become a Patsy for the next like mass killing event. Yes,

dude. Yeah. Like guys that I used to work out with or guys that I worked at Jimmy John's with that. Like we smoked weed in our cars together and listen to sublime. And we're like, we're going to get out of this town, bro.

We're going to fucking leave. And then like 10 years goes by and they're like, I learned how to make syntax in my house. Me and my wife figured it out. She's been doing beating and crafting. Ten years goes by and they're like, I learned how to make Simtex in my house. Me and my wife figured it out. She's been doing beading and crafting. I've been building C4 bombs in my garage. My son's been – I'm like, dude, what are we doing?

What if the – instead, what if the CIA in the 60s took a bunch of white boys and turned them into ballers? That would have been sick as fuck. Like you just see a bunch ofers white boys out the CIA's I don't know it's the the plant the MK ultra backfired and it just turned everybody in LA into wiggers all the white boys games. Austin Reeves is the result of a 70-year MKUltra Bene Gesserit breeding program to create. Black guys start being like, yeah, the white men are taking all our women.

There's a picture of Polaroid resurfaces of Vanilla Ice before 1982. And he's just hanging out. He's just dressed like a rich Connecticut gay guy, and then right after that picture taken, he's like, a one, a two, a three, a four. And there's just a guy behind him, like George Morshilds behind him. He's just clearly got a handler. Fucking Mac Miller, like 20 years. He's just like a kid on a big wheel, and then there's just every picture a handler, you know, fucking Mac, Mac Miller, like, like 20 years.

He's just like a kid on a big wheel. And then there's just every picture you look at him, there's just a guy in a suit, like, man, CIA funded wigger program, uh, is probably that would make a great,

you know, who would make a great movie out of that? That sounds like Christopher Nolan territory. Yeah yeah just the most um i i uh i i love that he after the big dark knight thing with the truck flipping over and everyone praised him for that every movie he's like i'm gonna destroy the world like he has he's dedicated to like not using cgi so i don't i guess he he got access to like how many pounds of he got like a mother of all bombs like a moab type deal and then just use that to recreate the atomic bomb for that's not good enough i think that's not good enough yeah

they should have let him detonate a real nuclear device and film it yeah he's so autistic that like he like it was stemming in the writer's room and was like i need a real one and they were like we can't we can't do it chris and he's like i i like just kind of like you know freaking the fuck out uh he should have he should have actually eventually killed john wayne by accident that's such a sick story Yeah they collected all the sand And then they all died Like 60 people from that set

What happened? This is the John Wayne movie The Conqueror Where he played Genghis Khan They filmed it In parts of the Nevada Or Utah desert In which like hundreds of atomic bombs Have been set off,

like a couple of years prior to them filming this, like very, like the sand was probably still glowing. And, uh, I've been like, it was bad enough that they're filming in that desert, but then like to do interior,

like, like a reshoots, like on set, they brought back all of the sand from the Utah desert in sandbags to this like closed, like studios, studio lot yeah and like just breathing in that dust or whatever like something like 50 people from the on the crew of that movie including john wayne ended up dying of cancer dude hollywood used to stand for something you know like hollywood hollywood used to be a place where like bisexual

meat packing man like James Dean, it's all nepo babies these days. You know what I mean? It's like guys who, when's the last time a guy who worked at Whataburger became an A-lister? You know what I mean? Maybe Jonah Hill? Maybe.

Well, no, I think he's got like some connections too. Sorry, I'm just thinking back to the... Don't wink at me like that. Program to rhyme, program to wigger, the CIA... Program to drill, yeah. The white boy program. I'm just thinking the movie Zodiac, but instead of sending those cryptograms, he just sends rhymes. He just sends pages from his rap book,

his lyrics. It's like, hey, yo, Mr. Police, you had all the clues. Like, just writing in, like, what a white guy thinks Abe is. What's in the motherfucking box? What you got in this big-ass box

right here, boy? Hey, co, what the fuck's in this big-ass box? Yo, you got me some Concord 11s in that hole? Is this serious? Are you serious? What the fuck? Here's my wife's fucking big-ass, fat-ass head.

What the fuck? Morgan Freeman is like, son, you need... Oh, he's smoking that shit again. He's just... He's on the wet once more. He just kicks it like a football. Man, fuck that head. Hey, I didn't even love this bitch at all.

Fuck that bitch's head. That's a dumb-ass gift. Fuck you, Kevin that head. Hey, I didn't even love this bitch at all. Fuck that bitch's head. That's a dumbass gift. Fuck you, Kevin Spacey. When they catch Jeffrey Dahmer, he's like, oh, hell no. Instead of that monologue he gave where he's like, I'm the devil and for what I've done. That very intense thing that got quoted in all the documentaries. The cop's got his knee on his chest and he's like yeah man he does he does the dave chapelle water like water pitcher spill move oh yeah yeah oh oh shit oh hey like the knee slap that dave chapelle does like oh like the fucking oh man i like i

don't uh the the idea that – I'm thinking about – I'm still thinking about Jimmy Levy and Forgiato Blow, and I'm like, in some ways, the thing that we're joking about is real because where do you have to be in your life to tell yourself – because the guy who made the Target song, not Forgiato Blow, but Jimmy Levy, the big, fat guy, he was on American Idol. He was just like a normal choir boy. Like I saw pictures of him like two years ago and he was just like singing washed in the blood of the lamb.

And like Simon Cowell was calling him fucking stupid and shit. That's what he was doing. And then at some point he was like, I, I need to make money or I need some attention. Like your, your, your motivations and stuff are no longer your own, right? Like, they no longer, you do kind of become programmed to become Forgiato Blow, you know? Well, I mean, I think, like, also, like, especially trying to break into the entertainment industry,

which is, you know, like, the mainstream, or, like, you know, like, the real entertainment industry is, you know, to these people's perspective, and, like, largely true, hegemonically liberal in terms of, like, the tastes and opinions of the people that, like, produce music and art and, like, you know, getting a single on the radio. And, like, you know, like you know the the conservative right or q anon or whatever you want to call it maga we're like you know if you're already inclined like religiously or just like you have like like sympathy somewhat in that direction if you can find a way to like make yourself um untouchable by like uh your your you know rapping and mannequins at target about how they're abducting children like you have just a huge built-in audience that's a parallel entertainment industry where there's no actual competition for like attention or a platform or

whatever or even talent so like as long as you can do that you have this like you know it's like probably 30 of the country they have this huge built-in baked-in audience of people like we said at the beginning of the show we're just like so psyched to just be like oh this like this young man's rhymes are so based i love my grandkids i'm gonna send this to my grandkids well i like part of me especially with the target thing man i'm like i if a guy goes in there if a guy goes in anywhere and airs the motherfucker out lets the chopper sing and does a really bad thing and kills all mother's motherfuckers he should go to jail for it. But like,

I truly believe it's like, yeah, brave stance, right? Brave take. No, it's like, I believe I want to counter that.

I want to say, Jake, I don't know. I know. Like, uh, but what I was going to say is like guys like Matt wall, like they should be thrown in a hole.

Like they're the one, like all of these manifestos are like Wall, like, they should be thrown in a hole. Like, they're the ones, like, all of these manifestos are, like, these are the people that I love and I'm obsessed with. Their names are, you know, fucking Tucker Carlton, Matt Wall. Like, they end up in all these manifestos, and, like, yes, the perpetrators, obviously, whatever, but, like, are you not going to, like, I feel like any justice society just society would like i would like just come bricked up into a wall like the cask of amontillado you know yeah yeah yeah yeah well like it dude my favorite thing about matt walsh is like everybody is like his fan

base loves his hard line take on like we need to like him and Nick Fuentes and all these other guys like we need to kill these people like he takes a hard line stance of like we need executions blah blah blah dude he was making like um giving my two cents in my car youtube videos like as of six years ago where he was like look women here's the thing women they are you're able to have a kid at 16 this is just biology you're able to have a kid and and every every developed society in the world possibly second world they're marrying these girls off okay i'm not saying that we should i'm saying that these people are happier these women are happier and it's like, what? What? You know, first of all, what? Second of all, like, it's so insane.

The double think you have to engage in to be like, I hate pedophiles and I want to kill them. By the way, just one election cycle ago, I was saying how biologically it should be cool to have sex with a sophomore in high school. Like as an adult. That's when they're the most virile, right? Don't clip that. Don't say that. I saw time. Yeah, but that's heterosexual.

That's natural. That's a God-intended. Yeah, that's true. Right. And there's so many movies where, like 17 Again, where you turn into a 17-year-old. And they don't talk about that yeah that's one of my biggest fears that's something i think about a lot is what if i woke up and i was in a little boy's body again what would i do well i mean like yeah like what if it was me

and then matt walsh went into a little girl's body right next to me. I don't know what I would do, Jake. The CIA feeds Thomas LSD and he wakes up as a little boy. Yeah. Well, I would begin courting Matt Walsh's daughter as a seven-year-old. Right. Yeah. So, hey, hi, Mr. Matt. My name's Timmy.

I saw you on the YouTubes, and I'm really enamored. Did you see that thread where his wife, apparently he almost killed every animal in the house? She was talking about how he killed all their fish. The cats hate him. The dogs won't look at him, which I don't like to be the type of... I'm sorry.

Animals know. Animals know. Animals know. Yeah. Like I. Well. It's like you know like birds know an earthquake is coming. Like every pet in that house knows what the deal is. Yeah.

Also just aside from obviously like his beard gives me like not an anxiety. It's an anger. There is a certain type of guy where it's too manicured yeah there's no you know what i mean like there's no give on the cheeks and it's it i'm like what are we doing he's got those like big fish lips like peeking out from this like just like black yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah he's thomas is, yeah, he's got those Jake fucking gay guy. That's Jake Rhodes lips. Yeah.

I didn't say that. You're projecting words in my mouth, Jake. Yeah. I don't know. I, uh, I like don't, I want there to be, I just feel like there's so much there's, there really is an infinite amount of money to be, I just feel like there's so much, there's, there really is an infinite number amount of money to be made doing stuff like that. Like every time I think the market's saturated, there's a new guy who makes, you know, uh,

a documentary called homo with a question mark, you know, and, and like he, he funds it himself and then it make like, it makes like a million dollars on Hulu. And, uh, then he gets to go on Rogan and promote it. And then, you know, he gets to talk. He gets to go on CNN and stuff. And it's like, well, you know, there certainly can't be more of these dudes. And then, of course, you know, they're always on. I mean, there's a limitless supply.

And it's only getting worse. I mean, I just feel like there's going to be like there's going to be so many more of them. You know, there's not going to be like one guy anymore. Because I remember like, you know, during the Bush years or whatever you're like oh like you know bill o'reilly or sean hannity it can't get any worse than those two guys and it's like those two guys have largely gone away like bill o'reilly has been disappeared from public life but there are just like 10 million of them and like their audience isn't as big like for you know by each as an individual but there's just like there's a limitless supply of them now

and they're all uh yeah of of feral jackals just baying braying for blood well it's i think like to the point from earlier it's like uh um like when i try to tell myself that this stuff just exists on the computer the a good uh unit of measurement is when I go home and I hang out with my mom and she's like have you heard about that documentary um what is a woman and I'm like oh fuck like hold on a minute yeah you know like like because like I come from a pretty conservative area so it's not crazy but I also like my my mom and like, my extended family are like not on the computer. They go to church, they go to work,

you know? And like, I, I know that they're on like tick tock, like registered nurse tick tock. Like I heard from my auntie that everybody who got the vaccines turning purple and their, their, you know,

their legs are falling out like that type of that side of the internet or whatever. Um, uh, nurses are great because it feels like half of that entire field or like, like die hard like medicare for all supporters and the other half are like uh giving people sugar and telling them it's the vaccine yeah no that's the it's one of those industries it's the craziest thing and like i i i got that in working in restaurants um and then like uh to some extent like um uh, like not necessarily construction, it's overwhelmingly conservative, but typically people who don't talk politics lean the other

way. But like the, like, yeah, the medical field, you meet a guy who's like, yeah, this thing is so fucked up. Like, it's absolutely terrible. There's nothing, it's irredeemable. It literally like your people. It's just the industry of cruelty and just yeah human misery that's just being yeah like you're just being wrung out for misery turning into dollars for an insurance company

and then uh people are like oh uh the other half is like oh i uh i injected myself with oils um like the like the russian bodybuilder guy who just has big oil arms like i injected myself yeah yeah i've been injecting myself with oils um dude that guy will blunt i don't know what i don't remember his name um i like the nurses that are like all doctors are hitler like every doctor is like dr mengela or something but i still work at a hospital well like uh like um yeah they're like oh, but I still work at a hospital. Well, like, yeah, they're like, oh, the doctor I work under is an idiot. And I'm like, what do you mean?

Like, what makes him, like, you see the threads and you're like, I wonder what makes this guy an idiot. And then they're like, oh, he gives medicine to people. Yeah. I'm like, oh, so like, I definitely have been over-pres prescribed by shrinks before like i understand some of them are just kind of but like i wouldn't call that woman an idiot i would just call her like bad at her job not necessarily stupid um but then again it's like the type of i think

also again i don't know if this is not necessarily exclusively like an american thing but i think some people just like to be quirky like i think some people just like to be quirky. Like, I think some people just like to be different in a way where like that, like there's trolling and then there's contrarianism. And to me, there's like a third level where it's like in the face of all of this stuff that I know to be true. I'm going to go the other way because I think you are a gay loser. because I think you are a gay loser. It's fine to be in on a little secret that you think everyone else is foolishly going about their day blissfully unaware of, but you're like, aha.

If only they knew the secret truth that I have access to. The truth is flat. Yeah, I remember when I was teaching at Texas State, or I was assistant teaching, rather, I was talking. I assistant taught an intro to philosophy course. And fucking, wow, yeah. Well, we were doing like. You were having a debate with Bill Gates and Socrates. Yeah, me, Bill Gates, and Socrates were talking about whether or not you need olive oil and if the thighs are okay.

And I came to the conclusion that you shouldn't do either, Thomas. It was like Thomas was waiting for me to clip that, hit that. But no, I was saying what are opinions, like matters of debate? What are things that are matters of debate and what are things that are just kind of commonly accepted as truth, you know, with less rigidity or whatever. And like, you're using examples like, you know, um, the sun rises and sets every day, you know, or like the moon, you know, waxes and wanes, you know, the ocean has tides tides um and an example i had used was that the earth is round and i had two classes that i taught the first one that went over great the second one

did not go over so good it was like two kids in class are like i don't know bro and i the vast majority of my students were um uh like uh like stem kids uh and like nursing students and it was just like i taught a lot i didn't teach a lot of people in the humanities i had a class that was almost strictly it's not necessarily saying anything about the group people but anyway i was like well what do you mean or whatever and long story short i drew like a circle on the thing and i was like you think it's this and they were like yeah and I was like why and they were like I don't know but they were like like they had this intensity they were like no and I was like why do you think it's that and they were like I couldn't tell you and it was like one of those like epiphanies you have where you're like oh yeah again like it's not they just it's like a thing where you

like you watch a youtube video stoned to shit and you're like i can get behind that yeah you know whatever the fuck well it's like if you encounter one thing like one thing in your life that like seems to undermine the official narrative like you know like for me when i was a kid it was like oh like like smoking smoking marijuana you like you know you'll you'll you'll you'll hit a joint and then you'll be strung out on heroin the next week. It's a gateway drug. Or that it's a very serious, horrible thing. And then you encounter it in your life and you find that all the voices of authority in your life

have sold you sort of a bill of goods. Or at least that the true story in your own lived experience is something quite different than like the the official party line and then it's just like a hop skip and a jump to be like well what else are they lying about yeah it starts with santa claus yeah you know raised in a christian household me and thomas you know did you did they you guys did santa right yeah of course no yeah yeah no you guys didn't't do Santa? No, he was a pagan figure. Wait, no, you're kidding. No, yeah, he was a...

I mean, it wasn't like... It was kind of frowned upon to tell your kids that Santa was real. I mean, he is kind of a pagan figure. Well, he takes away from the glory of God. He does, Jake. It's pretty... I think everybody is taught that i think i forget i forget that everybody everybody grew up like i mean he like he does kind of take away from the

glory of god because like when you're learning about the story of christmas in parallel to the other equally fantastic story about like this old man that lives in the north pole that in one night can deliver presents to every child on the planet you You're sort of like, well, why isn't God doing that? This guy seems pretty impressive, too. Well, that was that was my takeaway. I forget. I had like I had a somewhat religious upbringing and then like sometimes I remember Sunday School Thomas and Thomas is like, yeah, I'm like, we you know, you learn that the devil

is like a real guy and he's big and jacked and he lives in the ground and uh like he's got horns and shit and he's got a tail and everybody's like yeah you know and then like i'll talk to some people who like grew up more religious who did not get that version and then grew up less religious who didn't get that version i was just like right in the sweet spot of like he was like he was like don't worry he's a poison in your mind you will be in hell you are almost there yeah just chill out you're five years old don't worry about it you're asleep tonight five years old go straight to hell i uh i remember during sunday school we were similar you know yeah like we got i we got the version of that like the big red guy in the ground and he lives in the dirt like hell was a physical place also he could be anywhere at the same time

but i remember being very very scared of the war um because there was very much like in a pocket of the my preacher preacher at the church was a cousin of ours and a family very extended cousin and uh he was a calvinist and he was this like fire and brimstone guy and he would talk about the war like invisible like there's invisible guys angels and demons with like m4 carbines and they're like clearing rooms and shit and they're trying to get to your brain and like there's bombs going off and angels are shooting late like i oh yeah like that opening 20 minutes of saving private ryan but just like yes going on around you invisibly all the time yes yes only everyone's like 10 they're gonna storm the bunker of your brain yes like and every time that you look at your penis, the devil enters the breach.

And every time that you put a dollar in the tithe basket, the devil gets pushed back 100 yards back to the beaches. And every time you smoke a cigarette, the devil, what's he prestigious? Like Call of Duty. Calls in an airstrike on your ass. Yeah, yeah. It was very much, like, a tracked and timed war. And I remember being like,

oh, can any of these attacks, like, am I susceptible to them? And the general idea was 100%. I can't imagine learning that as a child would warp me in any way. Well, you know it makes you me and Thomas have talked about it in length where you're like how normal do you know some guys become serial killers you know like some guys become serial torturers and killers of human bodies and some guys become you know pedophiles you know for

me it just i got really into pills for a number of years and that was about it you know because i remember when i learned about calvinism like as a kid like that was one of the things that made it easy for me to lose my like whatever threadbare faith i had as a kid because i was like wait a second you're telling me that there's a major christian denomination of which like the article of faith is that like the people that are getting into heaven, it's set. And not only that, what they do and what you do in your life has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not you are among the chosen. So I was like, well, if that's true, then just take a load off.

It doesn't matter one way or the other. Yeah. I think the ignorance of which group you're in is like the driving force of like. Yeah. But they tell you you're probably not in the good group. Yeah, that's yeah, that's true. My favorite non-denominational thing was basically if you have faith in Christ, you're getting into heaven and there's no way you can improve your stance through works. So don't worry about the works. Do them, but you're just doing it for free.

Just keep that in mind. What works are good for is increasing your faith. So what faith is good for is right now God is building you a house in heaven. Oh, nice. So keep in mind right now it's like a studio apartment. You don't have that much faith yet. You just became a Christian. That's why you don't want to wait until the last minute in your life.

You don't have that much faith yet. You can't fake faith. You have faith your whole life. He makes the house bigger and better. And the yard becomes bigger. You get more rooms. This is a word-for-word, like, belief. So if you're just, like, a generally good person, like, you go to church, you believe like a generally good person like you go to church you believe in god you die you go to heaven but you're in the you're in like public housing essentially

yeah yeah so going to church also has no bearing on whether you go to heaven yeah within protestantism it's it's by faith alone not through works yeah so if you go to church your whole life but you're not you just can't bring yourself to believe that's cool but you will be going to hell well it was like yeah like i remember being very confused because like i was we it was a southern we were southern baptist my preacher was calvinist like baptist is like hey if you get dunked in the water and you believe in god you're probably good and but the preacher was more on the brimstone side of it, but he would be like, yeah, you know, it's probably good to get dunked, but some of you guys are just fucked.

It's like hearing that, like there was also an aspect of it of like, you know, like you're a kid and you're like how what group am I in and like you're telling me I can get points and then I remember in youth group we would all break off into these groups around the time you were a teenager I forget what they call them like disciple now

or some shit and and I pose the question it's like not it's not a novel observation but when I was a teenager I was like I'm the first guy who's ever not, it's not a novel observation, but when I was a teenager, I was like, I'm the first guy who's ever thought of this. I was like,

all right, so before Hitler blew his brains out in the Fuhrer bunker, that's a really great way to start off a theological discussion at a Baptist youth group, by the way. It's like before fucking,

before Eva Braun and Hitler bit the big bazooka, if Hitler said, I genuinely love God, I fucked up and I fucking killed a bunch of his guys but i fucking regret that shit and i believe it would he go to heaven and dude i had like a 28 year old youth leader who was like not equipped to answer that question like you go to seminary for like a year and you get like a bachelor's degree by one hitler question from yeah like eight year old yeah like they're not and i'm not saying i was like a bachelor's degree. You get stitched up by one Hitler question from a pretentious eight-year-old. Yeah, like they're not,

and I'm not saying I was like a young genius. It's just these people are not equipped to handle like just basic questions of like the problem of evil. You know what I mean? Like, and I remember in that moment being like, it kind of with the Santa thing. I was like, all right, the Santa thing was fucked. But you mean to tell me that like, you idi i mean he's good like like like all like you know

all these guys are just cruising along they're hanging out with fucking you know uh jesus and archangel michael they're all lifting weights together and shit well the archangel might have been catholic so keep that in mind it might be in the best place yeah i remember so my granddad was uh he was uh fucking french catholic and uh i remember my parents taking me aside whenever i was younger and like letting me know that i wouldn't be seeing him in heaven but it was okay he still loved me he was still a good man but he he was a cat wait thomas can you can you please tell will the abraham and isaac story that your dad shared with you so so my dad so my dad was a pastor growing up and um he would read scripture with me and the other kids and he once

as a bedtime story when I was probably five or six he read to me the story of Abraham bringing his son Isaac on a basically a little hiking trip and

God told Abraham to sacrifice his son at the altar and he raised his arm up to to strike down his son and then god said i'm just playing i was just seeing if you're gonna do it you did not pussy out and now you're my one true soldier and my dad said you know it's great that his son's life was saved by the Lord, you know. And you should know that if God instructed me to do that, I would do the exact same. He said, that's what God's mission was. I would strike you down. I don't think that's what God's mission was. I would strike you down. I don't think that's what the moral of that story was.

Even looking back in my wiser days, that was not what that story was about, I don't think. It's good to know. If my dad ever got schizophrenia and just killed me, I would know why now. Like, imagine, like, Abraham right after that incident being like, come on, we'll get ice cream. You know, like the car ride home, you know, just sort of looking at him. I was tripping. Hey, hey, hey, look.

I heard a little voice in my head, and he told me to bust your ass one time. And as it turns out, I was just geeking for a second. It's my bad. I'm sorry. I was going to throw you out the whip. It's my bad. It's another one of those stories. Let's just put on some Foggiato blow, son.

Let's just knock out to this right now. Don't think about what just happened. There's another one of those stories you get at Sunday school that I think either makes or breaks you. You hear it and you're like, wow, that's incredible. Or just like when I was a kid thinking about all of the people who just had the

accident of God creating them in a part of the world where Christianity hasn't fully penetrated yet. They'll be created to go to hell for all of eternity and I was like well that doesn't seem very fair or then as you said like the Hitler example like the fear that you'll get to heaven and there'll just be like some asshole there

and you'll be like what the fuck I was good all my life for this yeah I talked about that on a previous episode of like you mean I just get to hang out with my aunt who like you know like but the I remember like, too, the soldiers that stabbed Jesus. They were just created. Pontius Pilate, who was just, dude,

Pontius Pilate was just not even a big guy in history. He was just like a fucking, he was like, he'd be like the mayor of Fort Worth. You know, people know who he is. But he's not a big guy you know he's probably got a Wikipedia page but not a lot there he our early life was born a death and then like controversy surrounding crucifixion there's a paragraph there yeah yeah yeah yeah and like he just was invented by God to like yeah you got to cap my son, dude. I'm fucking real sorry. It's not.

I know that you were like a, you know, a respected guy or whatever. But yeah, you're basically just I really got to get this guy down there. And now he would be like a guy who owns a car dealership. Basically. Pontius. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I know him.

Yeah. He's a guy who killed Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I always like I always thought it would be funny. Like, I don't know. The one thing you won't wash your hands of are the savings.

Punches, Pilots, Pontiac. I'll tell you what's not going to rise in three days is the prices. You're fixed APR. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pilot auto. We'll whip you into shape here at ponchos pilates the uh just having the like um yeah just just being created to die and then like getting all that information as a kid and then just being like oh you know i don't you know what i'm gonna get into tony hawk i think that's a better like i'm it's a better like tony hawk and jacking off so much i've seen

i've seen tony hawk perform what are for all intents and purposes miracles i mean the 900 come on yeah yeah yeah you yeah um i think uh he's fucking yeah i've've seen, I saw Tony Hawk do a 900 and Tony Hawk has had five wives and that's pretty cool. And, uh, oh shit. We're fucking, yeah, we're here. We're about it. We're about it. But I don't, I know you're an hour ahead of us.

I don't want to keep you will, but, uh, I, uh, I appreciate you coming on my man. Um, uh, great to talk to you boys again. Absolutely. It's always a fun time Hope to make it back to Texas sometime soon Yeah that would be fun I do want to go see if we can catch The JFK Jr. crowd at Daily Plaza

The guys that hang out there They've dwindled in recent years But every time I see them in the news It's once a month There's like 15-20 of them That are like They still are in the queue the queue space you know um maybe we can see i uh well you know it's funny whenever we you guys were in texas

you asked me about daily pleasant i did not know what that was i completely forgot that happened even in dallas you were like yeah we're gonna go to daily pleasant You were like, yeah, we're going to go to Dealey Plaza. And I was like, hell yeah. I was like, maybe get some barbecue or something over there. Yeah. I'm sure that's, yeah, Dallas is cool. You thought they were going to the mall? Yeah, dude, because there's this theater over there. I forget what it's called, but they have a bunch of, like, what's his name? Fucking the guy who the blick

who blicked him or whatever uh yeah they have a bunch of like shirts with his face on them i'm like that's kind of random for like a throwback movie theater like i was watching like 35 millimeter uh texas chainsaw massacre and i was like i mean it's kind of i guess it's like uh you know maybe it's kind of like a shock value B-movie type edgy looking up the history

of the place and I'm like down the street from where he was killed I'm like okay yeah that makes sense but yeah I always forget about that yeah I

the the pictures it's like it's like when you when you're there like it's easy if you if you do not buy the story from the Warren Commission, it's very easy to convince yourself that this moment in this place is where everything kind of fell apart. Yeah. How you ended up, I guess, here.

Yeah. And they actually, the CIA had to kill him in the South because it's the only place that Catholics can't go to heaven. I had to kill him in the South because it's the only place that Catholics can't go to heaven. Yeah, yeah. That's good. We got RFK Jr. in there and change all this. Well, yeah. Catholics get to go to heaven under the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. administration. I feel like he's getting so much leeway with a certain type of online leftist guy

because his dad was... Or his uncle, and his dad too. It's cool that he is running for president saying, hey, the CIA killed my father and uncle. Yeah, I was talking... I don't know if I was talking to you thomas or or or ben about it but i was like dude you got a hefty set of nuts to like to be like hey um the cia killed my uncle and my dad by the way i'm running for president like that is like like by

two major political players a part of one of like the American dynastic families. Yeah, I'll be flying in a single legend prop plane to a campaign rally tomorrow. Yeah, it's like like, you know, my dad and my uncle, you know, like and like all their friends worked in, you know, like chemical plants their whole lives and like average life expectancy. It's like I'm going to go work in the mines they did pretty good you know what i mean like i let i'm gonna move back to pasadena texas and i'm gonna go work at a plastics plant just to see what happens it's like the same level of like hubris of like because you know maybe not a major player in the cia but there's some wet worker somewhere is like watching him talk about this shit. He's old. You know, he was in the 60s.

He was a young spry, like fucking Green Beret, fresh out of Vietnam, hired by the CIA, 24 years old, prime of his life. And now he's about 78. And he's like, like watching him say this shit. He's like, oh, they're're gonna bring me back for one last ride either that either that or like they're the millennial case officers and like you know like like the previous generation the james jesus engeltons you know yeah the dullest brothers you know they look up to to great men like that and then they're just like when is it going to be our time to like yeah cia shit then they're like robert f kennedy jr running for president they're like wait are you thinking

what i'm thinking what if we no don't say it oh come on yeah they do like the office comedy yeah they just do the gym face at their phones like yeah all of them are getting old enough they should make the last expendables movie. Just them going and killing RFK Jr. in real life. Well, that's right.

Like, uh, yeah. Like fucking Sylvester Stallone with advanced CTE. Like, Oh my God, we go higher by the ground branch. The CSSA D to take you out.

And like they're both him and RFK are just like, you know, just quivering. I don't... Because technology has advanced so much, I know that they still have wet squads. But do you think that there's a... You go through all of the special forces groups, then you get selected by Special Activities Division, that branch of the CIA that does all the wet work.

And they have the heart attack gun perfected now. Special Activities Division That branch of the CIA That does all the wet work And They have the heart attack gun Perfected now Like you don't even get to use A silencer Or an umbrella Like you don't You don't get the James Bond shit

You get like a cube And they're like Hey here's your cube man The cube DARPA made it It costs like 1.8 million dollars You only get one cube Basically all you gotta do

Is you just gotta be the same Yeah it teleports an air bubble into someone's fucking brain. Yeah, in their aorta. Yeah, yeah. So like, and you're like, well, man, I've been like doing 100 pushups a day, dude. I got my mile down to like four minutes. And they're like, yeah, that's the 60s. Like, you're not really like, those days are gone.

Basically, what happens is this cube increases the cosmic chance of our target dying by accident by about 85 percent we don't know how it works uh those are the that's the satanists at darpa and the fucking large hadron collider they get the cube so you just press the cube don't forget you got to charge your cube it's a thunderbolt cable you can use an iphone charger every time we turn on the large hadron collider just a cube gets spit out Like in our game We don't really know where they come from We just give them to people They seem to work though

Yeah it's I mean I would be so mad You're just like God damn I went through 10 years of fucking Special forces training to just get a cube I don't get to put anybody in a triangle choke I don't get to slash anybody's throat in the night Like a ninja

I just get you know Like a fucking Like how are they got Michael Hastings Like it used to be like They could put your throat in the night like a ninja. I just get, you know, like a fucking... Like, how are they got Michael Hastings? Like, it used to be like they could put your arm in the shooter suicide, like, contraption, where they fucking... Now it's just like, no, the cube does that. They take the gun themselves. They put it in their mouth, pull the trigger.

It's all quite painless. The cube makes the voices in the head, and basically what we do is also it gives a shortage of Zoloft within a 50 mile square radius all the pharmacies somehow run out of saraquil and lithium and then you know it's basically the cube does everything these days uh we we had the like the the shooter rig is in like the cia museum where it's like like the tour guides like we used to use this man it was fun as fuck i gotta tell you but uh we got the cube now like they're boomers

you know they're like ah these kids these gen z caseworkers with their cubes they just they just get to this is this is the one this is the one we used on kurt cobain yeah yeah yeah yeah it's the shotgun modified one it's like it's got like a v4 like an inline four engine on it so for some like oh you know we put a cam on this one um yeah i don't uh the it's like old hat but that fucking fucking video of like um the latina caseworker oh yeah yeah i just it's old hat it's like fucking beat the dead horse at this point but i'm like if i was a right wing guy on the edge of my rope, you know what I mean? Like, and you and I know a contingency like some of these guys I train with, you know,

not friends with them, but I follow them online. There's a group of people who believe the CIA is Marxist. Like they believe that wholeheartedly, you know. And I'm like, I feel like, again, like if a couple couple things have gone wrong in my life and i like if you are truly like an end of the rope sort of incel right wing dude and you're like you see that you're like oh everything i believe is true mastercard and the cia i wonder why the cia made that video yeah right exactly yeah yeah proven to true once again um oh shit well i gotta fucking Oh, shit. Well, I got to fucking get to bed here, make some dinner. But thanks for coming on again, Will.

No problem. You can tell our group of degenerates about your show. You know, I think we can plug it on our show. Well, I'll just say check out, if you haven't heard already, check out Movie Minds with the miniseries I'm doing with Hessa right now. Oh, hell yeah. I'm running until the end of June. And I'll be back for October for some horror movies.

So I'm having a lot of fun doing the miniseries. We'll do some Texas Chainsaw Massacre with Hessa and I, probably coming back in October. But we still got a few episodes left in this run of the show. So it's available on our Patreon. I haven't heard about that. What is that? I haven't seen that.

Oh, it's like Matt and Chris did Hell on Earth. They did the 30 Years War mini-series, and now we just wanted to keep it running with these side projects that are only available on the Patreon. You get it for the same $5 a month for the Chapo main feed. But yeah, it's a mini-series

where I just talk about movies with Hessa from Seeking the Moon. Oh, nice. Hell yeah, hell yeah. Very nice. I watched... What movie did I watch I don't remember What movie I watched

So it wasn't Apparently very good But Okay well I'm gonna Get off the line I'm gonna finish Watching Firefox With Clint Eastwood

As soon as I get Off the line with you fellas Alright I'll see you Will Thanks for coming on Alright Cheers See you guys