Pendejo Time - The Finer Things (feat. Lawrence Schlossman)
Episode Date: July 14, 2022Larry from Throwing Fits joins me to discuss exotic leathers, koi ponds, wraparound porches, timepieces, and whatever else comes to mind. Follow the boy @SartoriallyInc and check out his podcast https...://www.patreon.com/throwingfitsSupport the Show.
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                                         Three, two, one.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         We're here with Larry Schlossman.
                                         
                                         What's up, bro?
                                         
                                         Thanks.
                                         
                                         Thanks for coming on, man.
                                         
                                         We were just talking about.
                                         
                                         We'll do a little recap on those boots.
                                         
    
                                         You show me those, dude.
                                         
                                         Those are so fucking sick.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Are we?
                                         
                                         We're not recording video, right?
                                         
                                         Or are we?
                                         
                                         No, no, no.
                                         
                                         You can just describe it.
                                         
    
                                         I don't.
                                         
                                         Most of the jokes on this show are like visual, but we have to describe them.
                                         
                                         That's comedy,
                                         
                                         dude.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         It's fun for sure.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         We got some,
                                         
                                         we got some crocodile cowboy boots here.
                                         
                                         And then what I was just talking to Thomas about,
                                         
                                         excuse me,
                                         
                                         are the,
                                         
                                         the stingray dude,
                                         
                                         which I guess can't really,
                                         
                                         you know,
                                         
    
                                         they don't really pick up.
                                         
                                         I don't know if you can see.
                                         
                                         No,
                                         
                                         dude,
                                         
                                         that looks,
                                         
                                         it looks fucking sick.
                                         
                                         What's crazy about the stingray dude is that it's mad supple.
                                         
                                         Right. But like crinkly
                                         
    
                                         like as if like it's like a leatherish paper it's really i've never felt anything like it
                                         
                                         have you worn them out yet yeah absolutely of course so they hold up like normal leather
                                         
                                         100 i mean i will say they just came into my possession and they were used, but like they're in great shape.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         So yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Like when I hear stingray,
                                         
                                         I would think like,
                                         
    
                                         Oh fuck,
                                         
                                         I gotta be careful with these.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Like I've never worn an eel skin,
                                         
                                         but like I would,
                                         
                                         I would be wary of eel skin.
                                         
                                         It's gotta be similar.
                                         
    
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         Probably the same way.
                                         
                                         I don't know if they can make boots out of,
                                         
                                         out of eel skin.
                                         
                                         I think about it.
                                         
                                         Sound. That sounds right, though.
                                         
                                         I'm thinking of an old Ice-T song.
                                         
                                         That's one of the only times I've heard eel skin referenced.
                                         
    
                                         I'm trying to think of whether it was suits or whether it was boots.
                                         
                                         Oh, you know, like a shark skin suit.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And that's just like, I don't know, it's really just a term that uh really just describes like the shimmer in a fabric it's not actually made of any
                                         
                                         animal byproducts yeah that's probably it yeah you're probably right i'll try and get ice tea
                                         
                                         on the next episode iron that out for me do you have any famous listeners that you know of uh
                                         
                                         you know for all we know ice see could be one of them.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
    
                                         But has any made themselves known?
                                         
                                         No, no, no.
                                         
                                         We don't have any famous listeners that I know of.
                                         
                                         I don't really know.
                                         
                                         I can't really say I know any like super famous people, you know?
                                         
                                         Oh, no, me neither.
                                         
                                         I just I was just seeing like maybe there's an opportunity for thomas like name drop just dunk from the free throw yeah i'm like yeah
                                         
                                         dick dude hell yeah yeah no um
                                         
    
                                         i'm always surprised anybody like listens to any podcast i don't know i think it's just like to me it's not something
                                         
                                         that i think of like other people in my life doing with their time that makes sense it's not you do
                                         
                                         you don't listen to any no i do some but like it's not an activity that i like imagine other people
                                         
                                         doing you know like anytime someone's like yeah i like you know the podcast or whatever it's not
                                         
                                         even so much like wow i can't believe you of all people like it but it's like yeah i like you know the podcast or whatever it's not even so much like wow i can't
                                         
                                         believe you of all people like it but it's like oh fuck yeah like it's one of the most popular
                                         
                                         forms of media nowadays i forget about that totally super popular but i'll say this for
                                         
                                         the podcast that i listen to i do it privately it's not like a shared experience or something
                                         
    
                                         that i ever want to communicate outwardly, partly kind of because of shame maybe,
                                         
                                         or just like, it still feels weird.
                                         
                                         But I think also you want it to feel
                                         
                                         like a private conversation,
                                         
                                         like you're with your friends or something.
                                         
                                         The parasocial relationship.
                                         
                                         That's a big dynamic.
                                         
                                         I don't know if it's like that for everyone
                                         
    
                                         because some I just like kind of keep on like noise sometimes.
                                         
                                         Like if I don't want to listen to music
                                         
                                         on my drive home or whatever
                                         
                                         i'll put one on sometimes and it's just like i have like like i'm giving people a ride or something
                                         
                                         yeah dude it's the assimilated uber driver yeah it's just like ah some bullshit you know maybe i
                                         
                                         get like i look towards the back seat and like chuckle every once in a while and then like i
                                         
                                         turn back you know keep it professional yeah yeah i don't know um what are the fans of pendejo time called like do you guys have a name for them i think we usually say
                                         
                                         pendejos okay that that makes total sense and then we have a we have a higher we have a ten
                                         
    
                                         dollar tier and we call those honchos oh i like that dude that's a real what is there one above
                                         
                                         that like host here uh yeah so we have $25 tier that we made as a joke,
                                         
                                         and it's called the John Wayne Gacy tier.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah, baby.
                                         
                                         And we have like two people on it, and one-
                                         
                                         Are they serial killers?
                                         
                                         No, so one is just like a normal-
                                         
                                         At first, one of the guys on there was just a guy who would DM me every month
                                         
    
                                         and be like, hey, I'm giving you $25 a
                                         
                                         month. Can I see your penis? And I would just not respond. Cause I was like, well, let's just let
                                         
                                         him keep thinking that maybe he'll see it at some point. Cause like 25 bucks is no joke long-term,
                                         
                                         you know, the carrot on the stick was your, is your penis. Your penis is the carrot. Yeah.
                                         
                                         The thing is that guy unsubbed and another guy subbed.
                                         
                                         And then, like, a few months later, I was like, yeah, there's, like, one guy on that tier.
                                         
                                         It's just a guy who constantly DMs me asking to see my cock.
                                         
                                         It's, like, stupid.
                                         
    
                                         And then the guy who subbed who wasn't that guy was like, hey, can you please clear this up?
                                         
                                         Because, like, I'm, like, one of two people on here, and I'm not the guy.
                                         
                                         That guy's not on there anymore the other guy is nick mullen and he did that so that he would never have
                                         
                                         to listen to it but could support damn shout out fucking nick a real man a real man of the people
                                         
                                         um thank you by the way for clearing that other dude's name he doesn't want to see your penis
                                         
                                         right and say that well we can't say that confidently but he's okay at least he's never
                                         
                                         asked yeah right he's never asked. Yeah, right.
                                         
                                         He's never solicited the penis.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         In terms of what's in his heart, how much he wants to see your cock.
                                         
                                         Well, well, that's only him and God.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I get it.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         OK.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's none of my business what you know what's going through people's minds as long as they keep it there.
                                         
                                         You know, even though it's your penis, it's not your business.
                                         
    
                                         It's my.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I like that. That's a good slogan my business and my penis are two separate circles of a of a venn diagram that doesn't necessarily converge so then it's so then two circles
                                         
                                         not a venn diagram but yeah yeah totally i keep my business out of my penis and i keep my penis
                                         
                                         out of my business you know yeah you guys run a tight ship over here dude shout out to you man i like this this is fun dude yeah no it's good yeah so
                                         
                                         what you been up to lately man i saw you got that uh mr porter collab type thing oh yeah what's up
                                         
                                         with that um also i feel like this is not going to be interesting to your audience at all no i
                                         
                                         don't give a fuck what they think this is this is uh right now this is a thomas show this is thomas and larry show you know like yeah it is free go pay for some shit
                                         
    
                                         anyway yeah oh this is gonna be a free one this one's a free one yeah oh then who gives a fuck
                                         
                                         about these people uh peasants uh for the for yeah i mean if it's fucking free you're a fucking
                                         
                                         surf no um for the past year uh myself and my
                                         
                                         co-host of my podcast we have been working on a pretty big project that in summation
                                         
                                         is a capsule collect this is gonna sound so fucking good it's cool man it's uh i mean i
                                         
                                         thought the cowboy boots was actually speaking of venn diagrams throat larry and thomas the that
                                         
                                         venn diagram is is exotic skin cowboy boots i don't know it is no
                                         
                                         yeah that that's definitely there but uh yeah dude we designed uh 74 pieces of clothing with
                                         
    
                                         like 13 legit clothing brands from all over the globe that we fuck with and it is um gonna be
                                         
                                         launched on this friday i don't know when this is coming out but we're recording on the 12th it
                                         
                                         comes out yeah fucking friday yeah i'm trying to be out thursday paid bro i'm trying to get oh yeah dude
                                         
                                         trying to look cool on the fucking internet you know all the things that are important to a 35
                                         
                                         year old man you got your priorities nor 100 well you know it's funny because when we were talking
                                         
                                         to kind of warm up and loosen up you were like oh yeah well you do a podcast we also do other shit
                                         
                                         and i never really think about that because the podcast is like the mothership for every other opportunity that like
                                         
                                         i'm lucky enough to get but i was like oh damn thomas is right i be i do be like doing shit for
                                         
    
                                         real um yeah i mean like the big thing people i mean at a certain point it becomes like this i
                                         
                                         don't not to sound like one of those scammers on tiktok but like it becomes a side hustle through which you have to launch other side hustles from it like you have to start
                                         
                                         branching off and then just seeing what works the side hustles and griffs the griffs mutate
                                         
                                         into other griffs and you just gotta fucking you gotta keep the the dream slash lie alive right
                                         
                                         until you die i guess and then yeah like if this was a few years ago i'd be selling like i'd be selling like jeans on etsy that had like the rose patch on them
                                         
                                         hell yeah like it's it's 2022 you know we gotta we gotta get more creative with it now you know
                                         
                                         yeah there's just like a like a like like a thousand kids on grail just ironing on yeah
                                         
                                         roses onto like shitty shit stained levi's 14 Buffalo exchange for $2.
                                         
    
                                         And you sell,
                                         
                                         and you sell the entire final product for like 120 bucks. Like it feels not a lot,
                                         
                                         but like it's the product itself is worth $3.
                                         
                                         Oh dude.
                                         
                                         Um,
                                         
                                         do you remember super radical?
                                         
                                         Of course.
                                         
                                         So that's still,
                                         
    
                                         that's still around,
                                         
                                         right?
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         I don't know how,
                                         
                                         I don't know if Tyler Graza is still like doing shit so i used to have the original little peep super radical collab
                                         
                                         t with the devil bart yeah yeah um and dude i held that shit like stock for like five years
                                         
                                         okay until little peep became entirely irrelevant like Entirely irrelevant but like wasn't he relevant
                                         
                                         Until he until he died
                                         
    
                                         He was relevant after he died for
                                         
                                         Oh well he definitely bigger
                                         
                                         But like I bought this shirt for like a hundred bucks
                                         
                                         And then they were going for like eight hundred bucks
                                         
                                         After he died and I was like
                                         
                                         You know what I should do here
                                         
                                         I should hold on to this it's gonna be worth
                                         
                                         So much someday and bro that shit
                                         
    
                                         I think I Fucking good willwilled that shit or something.
                                         
                                         It was way too small.
                                         
                                         I got nothing in the end, but this was like last year I got rid of it.
                                         
                                         I think I just gave it to my little brother or something, but I was like, damn.
                                         
                                         I love a hand-me-down.
                                         
                                         That's better than good-will.
                                         
                                         You were underselling it.
                                         
                                         Giving it to your little brother is great.
                                         
    
                                         I give my little brother so much shit.
                                         
                                         He's fucking dripped out just because he's like,
                                         
                                         well, I don't have to shop if Larry is going to give me rare Japanese garments
                                         
                                         that he got for free and doesn't want anymore.
                                         
                                         So shout out to you and your little brother.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you got to pass down some of the drip.
                                         
                                         It was going to become Kurt Cobain's cardio.
                                         
                                         Oh, dude, I thought it was going to be like aain's cardio oh oh dude i thought it was going to be
                                         
    
                                         like a fucking signed babe ruth rookie card or something wagner yeah and now it's like yeah i
                                         
                                         used to have the the i used to have a pink t-shirt and it had uh bart simpson as a devil on it it was
                                         
                                         a little peep yeah it's like describing it sounds sicker than if we were to look at a picture. Yeah, it doesn't look crazy.
                                         
                                         But at the time it was like, holy shit, this is something brand new.
                                         
                                         But it became like you had so many just like screen printing brands at one time.
                                         
                                         Sure. The Karma Loop era.
                                         
                                         Well, with Tyler Grosso, when he brought his name up,
                                         
                                         I don't know how familiar the audience is with him,
                                         
    
                                         but he's like a OG iconic, like what we say, streetwear scammer type fucking type fucking dude yeah but i just remember i've seen him get his dick sucked on tumblr like
                                         
                                         a hundred times he would always that was like his big thing he would like oh i don't know if you
                                         
                                         ever saw this he would like always just post him getting like topped up by bitches because you
                                         
                                         know i saw a bunch of those pictures but i i never was i never was a tumblr guy okay um i i got on
                                         
                                         twitter pretty young but I never like...
                                         
                                         I got on Tumblr, but I didn't get into deep Tumblr.
                                         
                                         Totally.
                                         
                                         I logged into it and I saw it was just like girl stuff.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         It was a girl website for sure.
                                         
                                         I was like, I'm good on that.
                                         
                                         I'll just go back to what I know.
                                         
                                         No, you're not wrong.
                                         
                                         You're young.
                                         
                                         You're a young man, dude.
                                         
                                         I always forget that.
                                         
    
                                         We're like 10 years apart.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's all good.
                                         
                                         Or more.
                                         
                                         Shit. Yeah, so you would have forget that. I remember. We're like 10 years apart. Yeah, it's all good. Or more. Shit.
                                         
                                         Yeah, so you would have been.
                                         
                                         So you would have seen Tyler getting his dick.
                                         
                                         You're of the generation that saw Tyler Grosso get his dick sucked on Twitter.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I remember Gnar.
                                         
                                         What was his brand?
                                         
                                         The rap.
                                         
                                         He was a rapper too, right?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And a skater.
                                         
    
                                         He was like a triple threat, dude.
                                         
                                         That dude is like the most talented man in the state of California. Yeah yeah i remember he started rapping and he already had like you know ferraris
                                         
                                         and shit people like oh is he like a drug dealer or something it's like no man he's like been in
                                         
                                         his own lane for a while now or whatever yeah he's like he was like a pro skater right or something
                                         
                                         yeah fuck yeah it was like thinking back when like suicide boys was big and then like all those like
                                         
                                         guys who kind of branched off of
                                         
                                         that and it just became like just some of the worst street wear in history in some cases but
                                         
                                         i mean there was some i mean it was fun you know oh for sure i mean you bought you had a you had
                                         
    
                                         a fucking cool ass devil bart simpson pink shirt i mean like that was fun at the time for sure
                                         
                                         steve yeah like going to underground rap shows i remember like like everybody like you would like try and smoke a blunt with somebody and
                                         
                                         like everybody would be trying to sell you like basically their t-shirt it would just be like
                                         
                                         yeah it's like i do i do like rap it's kind of like a fat nick style flow with like with some like you know like uh like ugk influence and you would just
                                         
                                         totally dude i would just be like barred out like dude that sounds so fucking sick i think you're
                                         
                                         you got it you got what yeah you're i honestly think you're next up dude
                                         
                                         pass me the blunt dude please yeah fuck dude i'm trying to think like If any of those guys
                                         
                                         Like you mentioned Suicide Boys and Fat Nick
                                         
    
                                         I know they're all still making music
                                         
                                         And I'm sure they like go on No Jumper and shit
                                         
                                         But like I don't know if any of those dudes
                                         
                                         Really like blew up at all
                                         
                                         No
                                         
                                         I guess you don't need to
                                         
                                         So I think some of them have big fan bases overseas
                                         
                                         Like Ghost Mane
                                         
    
                                         Is a huge fan base overseas so i bet some
                                         
                                         of the other guys do too but i think some of them kind of like uh ran into some allegation stuff
                                         
                                         oh dude all of those guys yeah i was being across the i was kind of i was kind of
                                         
                                         understanding it there but turned out they were just kind of all rapists so yeah and then people were like
                                         
                                         wow why why are people not boycotting adam 22 it's like well it's everybody he has on is like
                                         
                                         kind of the same type of person you know so yeah it's kind of how it works out yeah that's just
                                         
                                         that's the cottage industry like there's no one else to have on that has not done right yeah it's
                                         
                                         like just like what are you having going a have on that has not done right yeah it's like just like what
                                         
    
                                         are you having going a different show dude come on yeah right yes what are we going to talk about
                                         
                                         if not right a different podcast yeah yeah that's that was an error man that was an error yeah but
                                         
                                         i do remember like one cool part of that was like cherishing going to a show that like most people
                                         
                                         did not care about but like if you had been following
                                         
                                         an artist for a while or whatever like i remember being really excited to see lil house phone
                                         
                                         oh shit speaking of no jumper yeah yeah i remember uh fucking my my buddy was wearing an nwo shirt
                                         
                                         and like little house phone saw it from like the stage and like ended up smoking and blowing with us and stuff it was cool but how many people were in the crowd like literally 50
                                         
                                         uh probably 50 to 80 50 to 80 yeah it's not hard to get shouted out when nwo yeah that's that's
                                         
    
                                         fair that's okay so if there's 80 people in the room there was 57 nwo shirts so that's the odds
                                         
                                         right that yeah i guess shout it out guess That's it what year was that
                                         
                                         You remember that was probably
                                         
                                         2019
                                         
                                         2018
                                         
                                         What's the last show that you went to
                                         
                                         Actually well actually in terms
                                         
                                         Of those probably 2019 actually
                                         
    
                                         No I just mean like the last concert you saw
                                         
                                         I'm just like oh fuck
                                         
                                         So this was 2019
                                         
                                         it was an offshoot of south by southwest but it wasn't south by southwest they just do a bunch of
                                         
                                         shows around there okay that are like yeah it's like it's a south by southwest show totally it's
                                         
                                         a showcase town yeah for that shit bro it was just in a warehouse like an empty abandoned building so we were supposed to see tay money that okay so we go and there's so there's this dallas it
                                         
                                         was dallas night at this place and that is that never bodes well right to have a dallas night at
                                         
                                         an underground so it's like it's a local showcase of dallas talent right yeah right okay but the thing is like dallas rappers are like
                                         
    
                                         notorious for like dude they just all kill each other right it's not like atlanta where it's like
                                         
                                         oh man you're doing cool stuff we'll bring you up it's like that guy made a song they kill each
                                         
                                         other in atlanta and like it's actually yeah no like out of control but yeah i get what you're
                                         
                                         saying i think it's like there's no support it's like if you make a song you're dead um anyway so we went to see tay money we drove like three hours three or four
                                         
                                         hours um anyway so this guy emotional zan he was big in dallas for a while he went up he was good
                                         
                                         and then a few really bad openers um which is always a pleasure honestly like seeing
                                         
                                         really bad openers sometimes it's like refreshing part yeah yeah it's the best part of the whole
                                         
                                         show yeah because you have no pressure then to even like pay attention so you can totally vibe
                                         
    
                                         out and i don't know about you but like that's just the best time to just start getting there's
                                         
                                         just like some girl who like just works at a tattoo shop. Like you don't even know what kind
                                         
                                         of music it is. She's just kind of up there.
                                         
                                         And then like her shift at Whataburger
                                         
                                         ended like 10 minutes ago.
                                         
                                         And she's just like, time to make my
                                         
                                         dreams come true. Yeah. Just
                                         
                                         like swaying and like that South
                                         
    
                                         by Southwest. Zero people
                                         
                                         paying attention. Yeah.
                                         
                                         That's awesome.
                                         
                                         Well, that's a fun time to have. So that's a fun that's a fun time to uh to
                                         
                                         have so that would have been before covid haven't been to a concert in 2021 or 22 no i have but that
                                         
                                         was the last show like that um gotcha gotcha gotcha i'm trying to remember the last concert
                                         
                                         i went to i'm seeing krung been in uh this fall that'll be cool sick. Sick. I'm kind of embarrassed to admit that I'm seeing Rage
                                         
                                         Against the Machine on
                                         
    
                                         this summer so that I'm seeing
                                         
                                         MSG. I'm seeing Rage at MSG
                                         
                                         with some buddies. And we've had those
                                         
                                         tickets from before COVID, bro. It's been
                                         
                                         postponed for two fucking years. So I'm
                                         
                                         seeing Rage at MSG and then
                                         
                                         I'm very excited about that. And then
                                         
                                         I don't know if you're a big Rage guy, but like
                                         
    
                                         I wasn't. Not to sound like an asshole. I was in high school. and then I don't know if you're a big rage guy but like I wasn't I not to not to
                                         
                                         Sound like an asshole I was in high school
                                         
                                         No I mean same bro that's
                                         
                                         I was a big rage against the machine fan
                                         
                                         When I worked at Sonic
                                         
                                         Hell yeah dude
                                         
                                         Right just like
                                         
                                         Working the fryer just getting so angry
                                         
    
                                         Just dropping whole rolls of
                                         
                                         Fucking panties on the ground like
                                         
                                         With a pocket full of
                                         
                                         yeah dude that's fine well i think that rage rage exists yeah i guess rage was like a gen x thing
                                         
                                         which like okay worst generation of all time but then if you're like younger than that uh you were
                                         
                                         like yeah this is like my favorite band from high school so for me it's like that's a pure you know
                                         
                                         nostalgia uncut nostalgia just right you know
                                         
                                         into the forehead so i'm excited for that that'll be a good time being for being from a small town
                                         
    
                                         i like tried to go out of my way to find like music that other like people hadn't shown me and
                                         
                                         stuff like develop a good music taste but what i ended up doing basically not you know not talking shit on on any of this
                                         
                                         because it's like i did you know it was fun but i just developed like millennial to gen x music
                                         
                                         taste like okay yeah i i listen to real music you wouldn't understand like wu-tang clan a tribe
                                         
                                         called quest uh you wouldn't get it pearl jam you know you know really out there stuff you probably you
                                         
                                         probably never heard of fugazi uh was your older brother chuck klauserman like what
                                         
                                         literally that was like a bill simmons like fucking fever dream i mean those are all good
                                         
                                         bands like are all good groups or whatever like that yeah i was raised by like michael rapaport
                                         
    
                                         i don't know yeah dude your tribe. He did the tribe called Quest documentary, right?
                                         
                                         I feel like that was.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         After Fife Dog died.
                                         
                                         R.I.P.
                                         
                                         Fife Dog.
                                         
                                         R.I.P.
                                         
                                         Yeah, dude.
                                         
    
                                         Fucking Rappaport.
                                         
                                         I hate that guy.
                                         
                                         Dude, I fucking hate his guts.
                                         
                                         He sucks.
                                         
                                         I just remembered when fucking Talib Talib Kweli like confronted him for saying a woman's
                                         
                                         ankles were ashy.
                                         
                                         He was like, nah, man.
                                         
                                         You see, it's just...
                                         
    
                                         You can't say that, dude.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Damn, dude. Talib hit him with
                                         
                                         that fucking knowledge, dude. Respect.
                                         
                                         What is Talib up to nowadays?
                                         
                                         Well, Blackstar
                                         
                                         released a... Blackstar, right, so his group
                                         
                                         with most deaf are where the artist formerly known as I forget. Fuck, I don't know what his muslim yassin bay yes there it is that's
                                         
    
                                         his islamic name uh yassin bay they they like surprise released a black star follow-up i feel
                                         
                                         like last year yeah i didn't listen i didn't listen to it but no me neither but obviously
                                         
                                         i assume that talib quilly got Trapped in good music like everybody else
                                         
                                         Oh shit
                                         
                                         No I think wait
                                         
                                         Damn no he kind of was like
                                         
                                         Right because he was on
                                         
                                         I feel like he might have never been on good music
                                         
    
                                         But he was definitely obviously boys with yay
                                         
                                         No I think he was signed at some point
                                         
                                         That's crazy
                                         
                                         Yeah like Kanye went out of his way to sign him
                                         
                                         Yeah
                                         
                                         But that might have been like a one album thing or whatever.
                                         
                                         I'm going to look it up because that's because that's what fucked over designer largely.
                                         
                                         Oh, my God, dude. For real. He got fucking he got sampled right for Life of Pablo and then fucking literally discarded.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah. Or not even sampled when that was the craziest thing to me.
                                         
                                         And honestly, this is such like a thing that only Kanye could do.
                                         
                                         And I'm a Kanye apologistologist super fan stan whatever so apologies to the audience that hates him but
                                         
                                         uh designer had that song panda right that went was going nuclear in new york really all over the
                                         
                                         country and then kanye dropped pablo whenever fucking i don't know a couple months later and
                                         
                                         he literally just like took the song and it wasn't like sampled well he signed designer basically so
                                         
                                         he could like acquire the ip and just
                                         
                                         took the best part of that song which is that panda panda like that chorus yeah and just put
                                         
    
                                         it on father stretch my hands part two or whatever like he just took it that was the only reason why
                                         
                                         yeah i feel like that's the reason he signed him so he could like get his ip
                                         
                                         and then fucking again discarded his his ass. Incredible move.
                                         
                                         I remember when Kanye was like,
                                         
                                         you know what?
                                         
                                         I'm going to give up the 50% of royalties.
                                         
                                         I still get from big Sean and all these guys.
                                         
                                         And everybody was like,
                                         
    
                                         what?
                                         
                                         And then big Sean,
                                         
                                         like had the praying hands emoji.
                                         
                                         And it was like,
                                         
                                         thank you.
                                         
                                         That would help so much.
                                         
                                         He's so pathetic,
                                         
                                         bro.
                                         
    
                                         Big Sean is the most pathetic fucking. it's so sad it like legit i've met him before and he was a great guy when i worked
                                         
                                         at complex i met him he well he performed at a holiday party and i spent some time with him and
                                         
                                         then i was doing a show on youtube um and he like we like interviewed him and he was cool but like
                                         
                                         it you with big sean i think people meet
                                         
                                         him and they like him or maybe they find him like charming because he's got a great personality
                                         
                                         but you can't not look at him and be like yeah i feel so sorry for you like i wouldn't trade my
                                         
                                         life with him he looks like a sad dog like his life for with big sean would you like switch
                                         
                                         places no no man i don't know i can't even really put a finger on why like like i like my life don't know. I can't even really put a finger on why. Like, like, I like my life. Don't get me wrong. But even like,
                                         
    
                                         you could have like asked me like a year ago when I like,
                                         
                                         didn't have that much going on. I still probably would have been like, no,
                                         
                                         I kind of want it. I think I'm going to do my thing instead. I'm good.
                                         
                                         Like,
                                         
                                         I think I'm going to smoke cigarettes on the porch and eat ice cream instead
                                         
                                         of doing what he's got going on. You're like, you're like, I like,
                                         
                                         I actually like my odds. i feel good i feel like the next five years are looking okay for me
                                         
                                         now that i compare to them to what big sean's are yeah and it's funny it's funny because like you
                                         
    
                                         know every once in a while it gets a lot so like be on a song that's a hit or something oh i don't
                                         
                                         fuck with you or whatever and he's oh Or Lamborghini Mercy I don't fuck with you
                                         
                                         Came out when I was in high school
                                         
                                         That's how long it's been since he
                                         
                                         By himself has had like an international hit
                                         
                                         Yeah that's a great song
                                         
                                         With E-40 too
                                         
                                         What a great feature
                                         
    
                                         That was probably a label placement feature
                                         
                                         But it's still cool
                                         
                                         Against all odds that worked. Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         Guess all. And you want to give them credit, but you're also just like,
                                         
                                         yeah, here's the thing. All right. Let me ask you a question.
                                         
                                         I just looked this up. How tall, and this will prove our point.
                                         
                                         How tall do you think big Sean is in your mind? Okay.
                                         
                                         That's taller than I'm like, yo, this motherfucker is like,
                                         
    
                                         he acts like he's five, four. He's actually five, eight,
                                         
                                         which is not that short. Honestly. No, pretty average height.
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly. Someone said the perfect height.
                                         
                                         A height where
                                         
                                         if I walked up and saw him, I wouldn't think,
                                         
                                         damn, that's a short guy.
                                         
                                         Because I feel like
                                         
                                         guys who are really short think
                                         
    
                                         that everybody
                                         
                                         walks up and thinks, damn, that's a super
                                         
                                         short guy, but you got to be real short for
                                         
                                         me to even notice a lot of the time. I have friends who'll be like damn you know you know me like i'm the short guy
                                         
                                         i'm like what are you like 5 10 they're like bro i'm 5 7 you're looking down at me right now i'm
                                         
                                         like yeah oh shit i guess i'm taller than you i don't know i don't really right it doesn't register
                                         
                                         i think big sean's problem is he's also like probably bro like 120 soaking wet he's like
                                         
                                         very frail i mean i guess he's kind of like yeah
                                         
    
                                         he's like wiry but yeah he's wiry um but yeah he has the demeanor and the presence and the bars
                                         
                                         of a 5'4 man so i was really surprised to see that he's 5'8 so that's my fun tidbit i'm bringing to
                                         
                                         the pandemic is rappers heights and how that matches up with our perception of their masculine
                                         
                                         i would feel really weird seeing like lil wayne in person because he's like he's like five six i think yo but that's the thing little wayne has
                                         
                                         the presence of a man he does seven four right right but it would be weird to see him like from
                                         
                                         a distance you know i've seen him live a bunch of times and even on stage he just fuels fucking
                                         
                                         i went to the i saw him i'm trying to think he did a tour right before the carter
                                         
                                         three dropped and one of the stops i was in college at the time uh me and my buddies went to
                                         
    
                                         um north carolina uh the north what is like north carolina university of agriculture and technology
                                         
                                         went to like basically black homecoming to see little wayne perform live and it was one of the
                                         
                                         best experiences of uh my fucking life but you know stage, he just seems like it's the fireman, bro.
                                         
                                         He seems like Shaq.
                                         
                                         That's fair.
                                         
                                         Incredible.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he's the best.
                                         
                                         So it's the anti big Sean.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, in a way.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Comparing them is even so disrespectful.
                                         
                                         I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         I'm trying to think of a tall guy who gives off like a like a noticeably tall guy who gives off the demeanor of like a short guy. J. Cole?
                                         
                                         Probably.
                                         
                                         Yeah, maybe.
                                         
    
                                         He's a big hooper. He's probably
                                         
                                         over six foot for sure. He gives off
                                         
                                         like 5'9". Yeah.
                                         
                                         Oh my God. Exactly, dude. Exactly.
                                         
                                         Like he gives off 5'9", but he's
                                         
                                         like, but my driver's license says 5'10".
                                         
                                         Like he's that guy, but he's I think
                                         
                                         probably Washington. Let me just look it up, bro.
                                         
    
                                         We're on a Zoom pod.
                                         
                                         I'd say 6'1".
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         He is 6'2", according to Google.
                                         
                                         6'2", okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Hooper.
                                         
                                         So, tall guy.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, for sure.
                                         
                                         Above average, absolutely.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Interesting.
                                         
                                         We could probably do, like, a whole...
                                         
                                         This would be actually...
                                         
                                         I mean, this would be like...
                                         
                                         This is like a fucking...
                                         
    
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         This is literally a Complex Magazine thing. But someone should plot, like, and do, like, an X be like this is like a fucking i don't know this is literally a complex magazine thing but someone should plot like and do like an x and y axis
                                         
                                         like a fucking like a graph and fucking place all these dudes that would be interesting to me maybe
                                         
                                         i don't know as the height versus perceived height or just highest exactly okay of rappers
                                         
                                         exclusively height right height on the x perceived height on the y based on like every like their
                                         
                                         personal brand and you know musical output and then seeing how that would match up would be very height right height on the x perceived height on the y based on like every like their personal
                                         
                                         brand and you know musical output and then seeing how that would match up would be very interesting
                                         
                                         you're like oh damn look at this regression like two chains looks and is as tall as like
                                         
    
                                         like he is his personality 100 you're right he's probably damn he might be like six four
                                         
                                         and he's another hooper yeah yeah he's tall he played college ball yeah also just an old like he's the thing he's old as fuck but like has a young soul right and
                                         
                                         like rap young so no one ever cared that like when he rebranded from titty boy to two chains
                                         
                                         he was already like in hip-hop like a geriatric age like a hundred percent yeah he he's like i'm
                                         
                                         40 it's time to go solo like and it worked which is crazy yeah it's like
                                         
                                         i mean it's kind of like the momentum that freddie gibbs is built really oh sure because like big
                                         
                                         rabbit i i liked a few of his songs before he dropped fetty with currency yeah but whenever
                                         
                                         he dropped that i was at a friend's place and he had it on i was like yo what is like what is this this is like this is fucking good and bro everything he's put out
                                         
    
                                         since then built on that momentum yeah yeah the shit with um mad lib bandana was i like bandana
                                         
                                         the best i know a lot of people like alfredo with uh alchemist yeah um which was nominated for
                                         
                                         grammy which is fucking crazy like the fact that
                                         
                                         though we were talking about paul wall and we were texting last night paul wall alone also
                                         
                                         nominated for a grammy for what grills with nelly you know a fucking very popular song and you know
                                         
                                         what's even crazier uh is that you know who paul wall lost to in that category I guess it was um best rap or sung
                                         
                                         hip-hop R&B collaboration they lost a fucking chameleon air and busy bone for riding dirty
                                         
                                         so it was like crazy that I didn't know fucking chameleon air had a Grammy he's a Grammy winner
                                         
    
                                         yeah 100% I asked Paul Wall when we did our pod with Paul Wall um I asked him about that and he
                                         
                                         was like yeah it was super like because it's like him and
                                         
                                         chameleon air like their whole thing if you remember right they were like boys in a duo
                                         
                                         and then they had like beef and like broke up like serious beef and then like reunited so they've
                                         
                                         always been like up and down like a lot of like you know that's how brotherhood is but he was like
                                         
                                         yeah at the time he was like I he's like I was so pissed in the moment to lose to chameleon air
                                         
                                         this would have been like I don't know 2008 or some shit yeah and he's like now looking back he's like i'm so happy if i was gonna lose it not that he was like
                                         
                                         admitting that like grills is low-key trash like grills doesn't deserve a grammy like it's it's
                                         
    
                                         like a good like yeah top 40 songs and they're like paul wall deserves one but grills doesn't
                                         
                                         right exactly but he was like now looking back and if he got one for sitting sideways oh
                                         
                                         my god bro fucking chain lighting up like a lamp because now i'm back with the camp that's if i
                                         
                                         love that's maybe a top just sidebar top 25 song of all time that's incredible song i'm uh
                                         
                                         have you heard smooth operator of course i i hadn't heard that one until recently and really yeah i don't know is that
                                         
                                         your personal favorite no it's just a good one i uh encountered recently like i i listened to a lot
                                         
                                         of uh houston rap especially in college but i got really into like big mo uh big pokey tight eyes
                                         
                                         those guys um you're a swish you're a swish a house acolyte bro right but i i didn't really
                                         
    
                                         get too deep into uh paul wall stuff i tried to get into a little white i couldn't do it
                                         
                                         i i think i just wasn't addicted to like opiates at the time yeah right right what was the only
                                         
                                         thing stopping me right oh but just to finish that story not that i'm sure everyone knew where
                                         
                                         it's going but in retrospect in hindsight now he was he was like if i was gonna lose to
                                         
                                         anyone it's awesome that i lost it to now they're boys again he's like my brother for millionaire so
                                         
                                         shout out to them um yeah riding dirty bro riding dirty won a fucking grammy i mean that was a huge
                                         
                                         song bro i can't even imagine how big it was in texas but like it was just i mean it was clearly
                                         
                                         i guess that was like if you remember like that era of like that would have been like mtv2 would like break rap songs like
                                         
    
                                         that's where i heard sit inside way like i saw sit inside ways watching mtv2 and that like i feel
                                         
                                         like broke it like or helped break it from a regional thing to like this is the biggest rap
                                         
                                         song of the year you know yeah no right and dirty was still like playing it like my middle school
                                         
                                         dances it was so it was popular for so long awesome song it was like that song was like
                                         
                                         flow rider level successful in terms of like crazy to think that that popular mainstream for lack of
                                         
                                         better term rap at one point was that good and now it's
                                         
                                         like, yeah, it's like Flo Rida. Like, it's crazy
                                         
                                         to see the difference
                                         
    
                                         in quality. It's insane.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Damn. That's like
                                         
                                         everything. We used to make things in this country.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Like fucking mainstream rap hits.
                                         
                                         Fuck. Obviously
                                         
                                         there's like,
                                         
                                         rap is very popular, but like
                                         
                                         we haven't had a song, i'm trying to think of the last
                                         
    
                                         other than like what the last song was that was like damn like it was everywhere
                                         
                                         huh despacito like like from i don't know the You mean like Song of the Summer type shit?
                                         
                                         It might have been Trap Queen.
                                         
                                         I'm trying to think of the biggest...
                                         
                                         Like took over.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Damn, Trap Queen was huge, dude.
                                         
                                         It was way bigger than that.
                                         
                                         Bobby Schmurder.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         What was that song called?
                                         
                                         Hot Neighbor.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         What was the edited version called? did they have a different name for it
                                         
                                         no i don't know yeah but white iverson i remember was huge huge but that was like a sound cloud
                                         
                                         banger that was what was that was like the first song i remember i was working at complex at the
                                         
                                         time and like that was like a link that was being passed around the office um and people being like
                                         
    
                                         yo what the fuck?
                                         
                                         I don't think I'd ever.
                                         
                                         And I'm not like particularly cool.
                                         
                                         I'm no SoundCloud's been, it was, had been around,
                                         
                                         but that might've been the first SoundCloud link I actually ever clicked
                                         
                                         on was white Iverson, honestly,
                                         
                                         which is kind of crazy to think about that, but that song fucking rules.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Looking back, I remember like being like being like oh this is trash or whatever and then like
                                         
                                         liking it like the second time you were a fucking you i was i wasn't like five years old how old
                                         
                                         were you bro no that was in high school okay um i was you're on your gen x shit you were yeah i
                                         
                                         was in like ninth grade when trap queen came out that's a banger forever that one i didn't
                                         
                                         get it at first but here's the reason i was listening off my friend's phone speaker in the
                                         
                                         cafeteria and that shit was busted as hell i couldn't understand what the song was i was like
                                         
                                         bro this is trash you're like this song does not pass the broken android test bro i heard it off
                                         
    
                                         a regular car speaker i was like oh it's good when you can hear the song Yeah
                                         
                                         Yeah that's
                                         
                                         He was like listening to like a Facebook
                                         
                                         Screen recording of like a snippet of the song
                                         
                                         I was like bro this is ass
                                         
                                         I can't imagine why this doesn't
                                         
                                         Hmm might be the medium
                                         
                                         Yeah the cricket wireless
                                         
    
                                         Slide out flip phone
                                         
                                         Anyway
                                         
                                         What's crazy about Fetty Wap is how talented he he is i
                                         
                                         mean like the whole remy boys crew and i i guess like i'm i feel personally invested as like i'm
                                         
                                         from jersey originally and they're jersey guys um and jersey isn't particularly known for rappers
                                         
                                         outside of fucking joe budden or now i should say bisexual podcaster joe budden but like um i was
                                         
                                         rooting for those guys hard and i just love they had a
                                         
                                         bunch of really great fucking songs and that i don't know that sound to me i don't know why
                                         
    
                                         i know he had some like legal trouble and then he got in like whatever some accident or some shit
                                         
                                         but like it's weird to me that he's like not actively making music i guess there's probably
                                         
                                         some shit going on behind the scenes or in his personal life yeah he's very talented to me yeah
                                         
                                         he caught that rico charge right was that what it was yeah i just remember wasn't there some terrible accident
                                         
                                         like a car accident uh he may have been but he got hit with like federal racketeering
                                         
                                         fuck dude like last year it was dude it was it was crazy because like everybody's tweeting like
                                         
                                         it's time for a fetty wop summer and he was like I'm about to be back y'all just wait
                                         
                                         and then the Illuminati from the top
                                         
    
                                         top of the ladder they're sitting
                                         
                                         it down at him if you're the Illuminati
                                         
                                         why are we locking up Fetty Wap right
                                         
                                         like I feel like we got bigger fish to fry
                                         
                                         let this man fucking cook damn
                                         
                                         what a bummer I hope he's out
                                         
                                         in all fairness I have to say
                                         
                                         the last
                                         
    
                                         last one I can think of that probably took over.
                                         
                                         It's probably Juice WRLD, All Girls Are The Same.
                                         
                                         Oh, I love that song.
                                         
                                         That shit, yeah.
                                         
                                         It was never my favorite, but I have to admit, you know, it was a...
                                         
                                         That, oh, that and fuck, what was the Uzi song?
                                         
                                         Oh, Now I Do What I Want, maybe?
                                         
                                         Or XOXO Tour Life.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, that one was... was or xo tour life
                                         
                                         not xoxo gossip girl but it didn't or life neither of those had the the magic of no that juice tape
                                         
                                         is really good that was like i i honestly like we were talking about peep i didn't really fuck
                                         
                                         with him uh when he was live outside of like a couple lucys here or there but that first juice
                                         
                                         tape i remember where i grew
                                         
                                         up you know you talked about like what the shows that you went to growing up i went to like a lot
                                         
                                         of like post-punk like post-hardcore shit in new jersey just because that was like the big scene
                                         
                                         where i grew up kind of like in the tri-state area and a lot of big bands came out of there i don't
                                         
    
                                         know i don't know if you're familiar with like taking back sunday everybody knows thursday was
                                         
                                         a big band this band
                                         
                                         brand new but whatever oh yeah like that was like the shit that that um i was really into so that's
                                         
                                         like very formative for me and that juice world tape when i'm like listening to that just like
                                         
                                         the way he like his melodies and his lyrics i was like this reminds me of literally that kind of
                                         
                                         like emo era like that's really and i know that's like the thing that everyone says or that like guys like uzi and cardi like you know kind of cherry pick from but i was like this dude
                                         
                                         like like it's legit it feels influenced by it's like it felt real to me yeah i think and i really
                                         
                                         enjoyed that despite like feeling like i was too old to be listening to yeah a song called all
                                         
    
                                         girls are the same by an artist named juice world but yeah yeah anyway that's my rant yeah yeah no i
                                         
                                         respect it man um do you guys talk a lot of music on the show normally or is this gonna be completely
                                         
                                         out of left field no man we talk about honestly usually after like i'll i'll finish up or whatever
                                         
                                         i'll send jake the file and then my girlfriend will be like
                                         
                                         So what did y'all talk about?
                                         
                                         And I'll be like I don't remember
                                         
                                         And she'll be like what do you mean?
                                         
                                         Like you just had an hour long conversation
                                         
    
                                         Like what was it about?
                                         
                                         And I'm like I don't fucking know
                                         
                                         I was talking about some shit
                                         
                                         Right
                                         
                                         Cause I don't know Jake I know he plays music though right?
                                         
                                         Yeah no he's touring right now
                                         
                                         Yeah okay sick
                                         
                                         Yeah he's I got to see them uh in december uh do they shred they shred indeed sick uh they're
                                         
    
                                         called drunk uncle and you should check them out it's like uh they're like very modest mouse
                                         
                                         influence oh cool um yeah i'll fuck with modest mouse yeah now they got some some cool stuff
                                         
                                         damn so you're just manning
                                         
                                         the ship while your boy is fucking
                                         
                                         road dog mode. Yeah, he's
                                         
                                         on the road.
                                         
                                         But
                                         
                                         yeah, I...
                                         
    
                                         Did you play any instruments growing up?
                                         
                                         Yeah, well, because of all that
                                         
                                         aforementioned fucking
                                         
                                         post-hardcore whatever, fucking even
                                         
                                         pop-punk-like like influence me and my
                                         
                                         boys tried to start a band and i have not a musical bone in my body so i was the bass guitar player
                                         
                                         um and but then like the thing you don't think about it you're like well at least my thing at
                                         
                                         times i can't do shit so this is the easiest thing but not realizing that like you need rhythm
                                         
    
                                         like you can't just have no rhythm yeah like there's a very racist yeah i had i had a
                                         
                                         moment like that and then i was like wait they're like extremely talented bass yes sure there's not
                                         
                                         like a level one bass player no and a level two bass player right oh yeah i was i was somewhere
                                         
                                         around there level one level two so i didn't go anywhere it was fun like honestly it's just an
                                         
                                         excuse to hang out with the boys right yeah like regardless of what stage uh of of success your band is in it's like you're with the fellas like that's the
                                         
                                         whole fucking point so it was still fun um and there might have been a roller rink or two that
                                         
                                         was graced with our presence under a variety of names but uh not suck dick at it dude i was so
                                         
                                         so i quit immediately it's all about yeah yeah what about you what did you do oh
                                         
    
                                         i play guitar right or no am i bugging i i i'm playing badly uh dabble yeah uh i played violin
                                         
                                         growing up uh really yeah were you nice were you nice i was nice with it um i played from
                                         
                                         i started when i was like seven and i played through elementary school but i didn't
                                         
                                         like classical music was the thing my mom that's a problem like yeah my mom like was like yeah you
                                         
                                         gotta learn i was like bro this just a bunch of fucking notes yeah you're like fuck this i'm
                                         
                                         trying to join an acapella group that covers rap songs dude are you kidding me or whatever the
                                         
                                         fuck i was like i want to be on a cruise ship doing trap queen dude i was so pissed when i was in like fifth grade i did this like classical piece for like
                                         
                                         a talent show and a kid who went a few like places after me just did the drums for life
                                         
    
                                         as a highway by rascal flats and dude he killed so hard compared to me i've been working on that
                                         
                                         piece for like a year and they only let me play
                                         
                                         half of it oh no so long right on a ram note and i was like it's really not how it works right the
                                         
                                         music teacher was like yeah i don't really give a fuck you want to play this or not i was like i
                                         
                                         guess i'll play the first half god yeah you could do half or get the cane treatment and you're like
                                         
                                         yeah that sucks that's pretty funny thinking that like all right this classical song we're just gonna like kill it right yeah it's not like just do one page yeah it's not like with like a
                                         
                                         pop song or whatever like i would do it up until the first chorus right but like yeah you know
                                         
                                         there's like i cut this concerto in half yeah we'll figure it out that's what is this schubert
                                         
    
                                         yeah do 30 seconds of it yeah that'll work yeah dude. So I'm assuming you did not win the talent show.
                                         
                                         They didn't have any prizes.
                                         
                                         It was kind of stupid.
                                         
                                         It's like, why would you do a talent show?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Some bitch was tap dancing.
                                         
                                         I shouldn't call her a bitch because she was in like fourth grade,
                                         
                                         but like.
                                         
    
                                         Did she grow up to be a bitch?
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         I didn't keep in touch with her.
                                         
                                         I don't keep in touch with people who tap dance.
                                         
                                         Just as a general rule.
                                         
                                         Yeah. I find out you tap dance not we're not keeping tabs on you dude i'm cutting you out
                                         
                                         of my life completely it's over yeah but yeah fleet-footed yeah yeah okay i don't like
                                         
                                         people who can't walk quiet you know yeah dude you gotta know exclusively with uh with creepers
                                         
    
                                         i mostly hang out with french art thieves right right mimes etc
                                         
                                         yeah yeah cat burglars and mine you gotta wear a little striped shirt that's my bag over your
                                         
                                         shoulder yeah yeah damn okay well you know what i wonder if she's still tap dancing but
                                         
                                         i hope so you know i think she might just be like a vet tech now most likely or that sounds
                                         
                                         accurate a phlebotomist or some shit yeah for sure dental hygienist etc yeah girls love like
                                         
                                         being like yeah i'm gonna probably be like a surgeon and then it like a couple years into
                                         
                                         school it's like probably like a just a doctor and then it's like yeah i'm gonna be like a
                                         
                                         receptionist at a doctor and it's like that works too nothing wrong with that by the way like that
                                         
    
                                         makes more money than what i do so it's fine for like it's yeah yeah i don't know to be clear to
                                         
                                         launch at home i make more than a receptionist right you do i do i do um i want to
                                         
                                         be clear on the record i think i think what you're talking about like the um yeah like a hot chick
                                         
                                         getting a job that's like adjacent to a medical profession that might have i think it depends on
                                         
                                         your level because what you can realize is that you can just marry a rich man well a hundred that's
                                         
                                         exactly yeah like that makes it smarter to do than getting a doctorate
                                         
                                         Oh, a thousand percent
                                         
                                         You told me right now
                                         
    
                                         You gave me two options
                                         
                                         You said you could go to medical school
                                         
                                         Or you could marry a rich man
                                         
                                         I'm marrying a rich man 100 times out of 100
                                         
                                         No question
                                         
                                         No, I'm not going to med school
                                         
                                         Fuck that dude
                                         
                                         That shit takes a million years
                                         
    
                                         I used to want to be a biomedical engineer
                                         
                                         I do podcasts.
                                         
                                         I'm going to cut down trees now.
                                         
                                         It's fine.
                                         
                                         Are you good at math?
                                         
                                         When I brought that graph thing, you kind of felt like I didn't have that
                                         
                                         riff dialed, but I feel like you know graphs.
                                         
                                         You can read a graph.
                                         
    
                                         You know stats.
                                         
                                         I'm all right.
                                         
                                         I'm all right with it.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         I feel like you're being modest.
                                         
                                         I'm going back to school this uh uh this next semester oh sick
                                         
                                         dude yeah good for you bro that's that takes a lot man my brother was debating on going back
                                         
                                         to school and ultimately decided against it but uh well how much you have left or like what's
                                         
    
                                         so where you at i got i still got most of it left but i I got about, I got about a semester's worth of,
                                         
                                         I got close to a year's worth of credits.
                                         
                                         Not hell.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Good for you.
                                         
                                         So I figure I can get like the rest of my basics knocked out.
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
                                         And then, cause dude, my GPA was fucking garbage for a while.
                                         
    
                                         And then I like, I took some classes, I repaired it a lot.
                                         
                                         And then I was like, I don't know what I want to do.
                                         
                                         I think I'll just try and make some money. Right. So I withdrew.
                                         
                                         But now I'm like, Oh yeah, it turns out I'm not making too much money.
                                         
                                         Right. Yeah. Let's, let's replan this. Yeah. But yeah, that's a nod.
                                         
                                         I respect that dude. But so what are you going to,
                                         
                                         do you know what your major is going to be yet?
                                         
                                         I'm checking out computer science, you know, smart bro.
                                         
    
                                         There's a lot of money there. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Cause at this point, like most,
                                         
                                         I was kind of like most people going in and that I was like,
                                         
                                         I need to find like what I'm passionate about and how I can change the world.
                                         
                                         And now I'm like, you know,
                                         
                                         what's going to change the world is if I can find somebody in the world who
                                         
                                         has money and get some of it. Yeah.
                                         
                                         And I can use that to buy a boat from somebody else.
                                         
    
                                         Then I can take my friends out and we can go like bass fishing and smoke
                                         
                                         cigarettes on it.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I would say that like, yeah,
                                         
                                         be the change you want to see in the world.
                                         
                                         And that's blasting darts on a small nautical vessel.
                                         
                                         I want to wrap around porch someday.
                                         
                                         You know, I want to, I want a big one. I want matching rocking chairs.
                                         
    
                                         I want the whole shebang, you know.
                                         
                                         Yeah, dude.
                                         
                                         I feel like you have like you have the southern living hit list already.
                                         
                                         So what do we got?
                                         
                                         We're going to do a boat.
                                         
                                         We're going to do a wraparound porch.
                                         
                                         What else is on the fucking docket?
                                         
                                         I want a rocking chair.
                                         
    
                                         I want a pimped out shed in the back.
                                         
                                         Like it doesn't have to look like anything crazy, but I want a pimped out shed in the back. Like it doesn't have to look like anything crazy,
                                         
                                         but I want the works.
                                         
                                         I want,
                                         
                                         we're talking plenty of clearance for a table saw.
                                         
                                         I'd like to,
                                         
                                         it would be sick to have like some of these stuff.
                                         
                                         It's not entirely necessary,
                                         
    
                                         but one dream I've always had,
                                         
                                         dude,
                                         
                                         I want a fucking Koi pond,
                                         
                                         man.
                                         
                                         Ooh,
                                         
                                         dude,
                                         
                                         I want a Koi pond bad.
                                         
                                         I've looked into it. I should not worth brain right there, bro. That's come on. That's I mean, man. Ooh, dude. I want a koi pond bad. I've looked into it.
                                         
    
                                         That's Fort Worth brain right there, bro.
                                         
                                         That's come on.
                                         
                                         That's I mean, that's sick, dude.
                                         
                                         That's it.
                                         
                                         But yeah, there's a house by my in-laws who live in Bay City, Texas.
                                         
                                         And it's like like they basically built the compound.
                                         
                                         So there's like a manmade island in the middle of like a manmade body of water.
                                         
                                         But they feel like Koi pond people.
                                         
    
                                         Like I feel like if I was to drive off the highway and into their,
                                         
                                         their compound, it's like, Oh, the Koi make a left at the Koi pond,
                                         
                                         you know, and then park it next to the,
                                         
                                         to the Tiki bar or whatever. And then, you know,
                                         
                                         come out to the fucking pool.
                                         
                                         Yeah. The thing is, if you have a fucking Koi pond,
                                         
                                         you have to have a very nice place.
                                         
                                         If it would feel weird to have like a ditch everything
                                         
    
                                         else was shit like i got like my fucking lawnmowers out in the yard right like oil just
                                         
                                         spilling everywhere and then like i'm like yeah there's some fucking fish over there i like dug a
                                         
                                         hole right or even better the best visual right is like the most fucking immaculate beautiful like
                                         
                                         mandarin oriental lobby koi pond but then just next to like the most fucking immaculate beautiful like mandarin oriental
                                         
                                         lobby koi pond but then just next to like the biggest piece i spit i dropped like 80 grand on
                                         
                                         the immaculate koi pond and then like yeah i don't even like mow the yard or anything right
                                         
                                         like a dude who wins a dude who wins the lottery and wins like let's say he wins like 25 g's like
                                         
                                         it's not life-changing but like he always wanted a koi pond and he like
                                         
    
                                         just builds a sick koi pond and i would respect that actually that would be fucking live your
                                         
                                         truth you know apparently this hypothetical scenario yeah there's these great blue herons
                                         
                                         that like uh if you don't put like wire across and shit they'll just come and fucking spear them
                                         
                                         oh shit dude they'll kill like all your koi what do eat? Koi eat like, I want to say it's kind of like, yeah,
                                         
                                         like regular fish food, but like a lot of it.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         And it's like bigger flakes, I want to say.
                                         
                                         Oh, right.
                                         
    
                                         There's that picture of Trump when he was with Abe and he's dumping the whole.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         That shit looks like bird seed almost.
                                         
                                         Right, right.
                                         
                                         Like, but yeah, pellets or whatever.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Because aren't koi like, koi are like not, they're not dangerous obviously, but isn't like
                                         
    
                                         if you fall in a Koi pond, they'll like attack you.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         I hadn't heard about that, but
                                         
                                         they're not usually super deep.
                                         
                                         The Koi pond. Right, right, right, right. Like you can
                                         
                                         always touch in one. I think maybe those are like
                                         
                                         defensive maneuvers, you know, I don't know. But from what I've
                                         
                                         read, you're supposed to have them like six feet deep.
                                         
    
                                         I'm like, God damn, how much you dropping
                                         
                                         on this thing? You know, I've never seen a koi pond be six feet deep maybe because i couldn't
                                         
                                         see the bottom but maybe like three feet three exactly you know but like damn i've seen something
                                         
                                         like two feet yeah dude honestly if me and thomas are at your crib and you show us your koi pond
                                         
                                         be prepared we're pulling out the measure and putting your ass on blast we're doing a meet up at one of the pandeos houses and
                                         
                                         there is a zero percent chance that anyone listening has a koi pond no one who has a
                                         
                                         koi pond no way listening to podcasts they're all like i don't know about that there's got to be
                                         
                                         like think about all the koi pond related interests like maybe maybe samurai pokemon you get a koi pond you're like drinking oolong
                                         
    
                                         and you're like i don't know fucking smoking opium or something i don't i don't know
                                         
                                         yeah i wonder if there's a koi themed podcast dude no way yeah that shit has to suck
                                         
                                         oh the koi boys yeah they're fucking garbage, bro.
                                         
                                         Yeah. De-pledged from their Patreon, dude. They let me down, bro.
                                         
                                         They're not. They used to be fucking fire. Now they suck. Yeah, I don't I don't know.
                                         
                                         Yeah. They found all five interesting members of the Koi pond community. They ran through pretty fast, but Koi pond strike me as a kind of corporate architectural feature.
                                         
                                         But like it is like there are people that like
                                         
                                         straight up like probably like love koi fish right and have a pond at their house and take care of
                                         
    
                                         them as if they're like like a dog or something right like i feel like it would i don't know if
                                         
                                         i would care personally about the fish that much but it'd be more like a bonsai for me
                                         
                                         like you're slowly growing them and developing them and stuff because they get really valuable as they get bigger really dude
                                         
                                         and you could like sell them you could but like dude koi get really they people spend thousands
                                         
                                         of dollars on koi fish oh dude i'm out of my element then i definitely thought it was like
                                         
                                         an expensive hobby but just like a more souped up version of like fish tank guys no dude people spent people drop a lot of money on like
                                         
                                         specific colorations and stuff it's it's one of those hobbies where it's like i'll think about it
                                         
                                         and then i'll be like well i could also just like if i had money lying around i could just buy a
                                         
    
                                         watch and i could just wear the watch and then i like i wouldn't have to like buy a fucking pump and all that like yeah true totally i'm the same way
                                         
                                         when we had lunch and we got lunch when you were in new york we spent a lot of time talking about
                                         
                                         watches i know i know if you get rich you're gonna be buying some fucking watches you're a
                                         
                                         timepiece guy you can always tell dude you gotta look most definitely yeah that'll i i respect that
                                         
                                         and what's crazy too i don't know, like how much the audience listening cares about like watches in the watch game, but like watches have become super crazy valuable assets in terms of investment, which is wild.
                                         
                                         But like, which is why I guess the headline recently was like, watch market crashes because crypto guys are losing all their money. Right. And I get that.
                                         
                                         Like, there's a lot of crypto bozos that were investing in watches,
                                         
                                         but like.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         It's a lot bigger than crypto.
                                         
                                         And it's a lot longer term of an industry.
                                         
                                         Oh, a hundred percent.
                                         
                                         And it's like, it's like, okay, your crypto is not worth anything,
                                         
                                         but it's like, that's still like a beautiful watch, you know?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         But it is funny to be like, okay, the crypto market crashed.
                                         
    
                                         What were the, what were the other markets most immediately affected and it's like rolexes which is like such a bunch of guys like running
                                         
                                         around like chickens with their heads cut off like i don't have any money now it was all tied
                                         
                                         up right rolexes you know yeah some fat guy in like an under armor polo and like a jansport
                                         
                                         backpack with like a new fucking sub and it's's like, damn, you know, I got to fucking sell that shit now.
                                         
                                         I'm broke. I'm broke.
                                         
                                         Because honestly, like, that's the thing.
                                         
                                         I feel like a lot of those guys, right, that like lost all that money in crypto,
                                         
                                         they had watches and like watches you,
                                         
    
                                         listen, you're going to take a hit for sure.
                                         
                                         But a lot of those guys, that's free cash.
                                         
                                         We're not free cash.
                                         
                                         But that's like you need an immediate infusion of income.
                                         
                                         Like you could sell your Rolex for half off and you're're still gonna walk away in this market with like 8k if it's
                                         
                                         the right watch or maybe even more so it's like those distressed sellers just all those fucking
                                         
                                         dudes tank the market you know i'll tell you what pissed me off dude i think i talked to you about
                                         
                                         the dominoes rolex oh of course dude, dude. Yeah, yeah. Iconic.
                                         
    
                                         Dude, they're worth so much now.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         Well, it became like a trendy thing.
                                         
                                         You know, there's Coca-Cola ones.
                                         
                                         There's U.S. Postal Service ones because it's like, you know, reward.
                                         
                                         It was given to.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I never fucking use your service or whatever.
                                         
    
                                         I never liked the Coca-Cola ones that much.
                                         
                                         Honestly, if they dude, if they had made if they made a diet coke rolex oh my god dude yeah well the can the diet coke can is already like that steel gray yeah dude it would have been perfect
                                         
                                         you just get that little hint of red on there yeah that hadn't read that would be so sick but
                                         
                                         the dominoes one people love the i mean the juxtaposition is undeniable yeah this beautiful
                                         
                                         wash that is the dominoes logo like it yeah it's
                                         
                                         incredible but dude i looked into the requirements for getting one and it's like you have to sell
                                         
                                         like an insane amount of pizza do they even still do it yeah they still have the promotion but the
                                         
                                         the logo is more subtle on the new ones oh whack that sucks dude yeah it's not it's not like red
                                         
    
                                         and blue it's like oh no
                                         
                                         i'm not interested yeah it's it looks like a regular air king at first like if you just saw
                                         
                                         it on somebody's wrist sure what's amazing too about those like aftermarket because they're
                                         
                                         rolex they're customized right i'm assuming by dominoes they're not from rolex prop like the air
                                         
                                         like obviously the watch is real but because like like one of those watches, whenever they came out, by doing that, by altering it, right?
                                         
                                         It truly, in the eyes of Rolex, right?
                                         
                                         The company proper.
                                         
                                         That watch is now worth nothing because it's been affected in the aftermarket, you know, way.
                                         
    
                                         But as the market comes around, like now, those watches are worth so much more than an actual Air King, which is interesting how it happens in like cycles.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Like I found some for like 1900,
                                         
                                         2,500 bucks when I first started looking at it a few years ago.
                                         
                                         And I was like, Oh, this is actually like, this isn't like a,
                                         
                                         a problem of possibility. Yeah. But it's like,
                                         
                                         like this isn't something I throw away, but if I was doing all right, you know, making decent money, I wouldn't really.
                                         
                                         This would be not that bad of a purchase, really.
                                         
    
                                         You would have been smart, bro.
                                         
                                         Now it's like fucking 11 grand.
                                         
                                         Yeah, probably going to be more, too.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         As the ones that you're talking about that are like, you know, the color ones like become more rare over time.
                                         
                                         They're going to be like selling at auctions like for 25 grand.
                                         
                                         Like it's going to happen.
                                         
                                         It's guaranteed like that's how insane the market is especially for a watch like an air king which
                                         
    
                                         at its base is a steel sport watch which like that's like the shit that everybody wants um
                                         
                                         so yeah i don't i mean listen it's kind of crazy to be like i should have spent twenty five hundred
                                         
                                         dollars on a dominoes rolex but you would have been able to quadruple your money.
                                         
                                         100%. Guaranteed.
                                         
                                         It's kind of like that for...
                                         
                                         You know this better than me, but old sneakers
                                         
                                         I had or whatever.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Dude, I've got a pair of fucking
                                         
                                         Barclays or whatever. I used to collect
                                         
                                         weird basketball shoes that...
                                         
                                         Love a Barclay. Yeah, those were great shoes.
                                         
                                         That weren't... Up tempos or whatever.
                                         
                                         Actually, that's Scottie Pippen. Never mind. I know a Barkley. Yeah. Those were great. That like weren't up tempos or actually Scotty Pippen. Nevermind.
                                         
                                         I know what you mean. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Like ones that they were weren't expensive on flight club or goat or
                                         
    
                                         anything, but I just, I liked them, you know, like I,
                                         
                                         I have Iverson still and like, dude, if I hadn't worn some of those.
                                         
                                         Oh yeah. Totally dude. Yeah. Like 400 bucks or whatever, but like,
                                         
                                         Oh yeah. But it's like money yeah like dude i got a pair of fucking barclays at ross in like 2016
                                         
                                         for like 40 bucks and i wore them to shit because like that's what you do you know but it's like
                                         
                                         it's the point of it yeah yeah yeah but i mean why would i have kept those in a box for six years? Psycho behavior.
                                         
                                         It's just a come up like that.
                                         
                                         It's impossible,
                                         
    
                                         irresistible to not
                                         
                                         wear. That's me. I'm wearing them out of
                                         
                                         Ross. It's like the
                                         
                                         best 40 bucks for Barkley. It's like, yeah,
                                         
                                         these are fucking sick.
                                         
                                         I've got fucking purple
                                         
                                         and pink Iversons
                                         
                                         from back in the day. I've got fucking purple and pink iversons from back in the day i've got shagnosis
                                         
    
                                         oh uh i've got oh dude i've got the worst kamikaze color ever made bro it's like a fucking
                                         
                                         iridescent like knockoff snake skin look oh that's awesome so and then like bro they wear them
                                         
                                         i wore them a couple times bro they look like fuck they smell
                                         
                                         so bad they smell like heavy like cigarettes bro why i don't know i got them second hand
                                         
                                         okay there you go and bro they still bro it's been like six years they still smell they still stink
                                         
                                         just like unfiltered cigarettes well do you do
                                         
                                         when you wear them are you also smoking no i never smoked okay i don't wear them anymore i don't
                                         
                                         really wear basketball shoes that much anymore i've shifted more into like i wear new balance
                                         
    
                                         and i wear like hiking boots nice which i used to always make fun of people for doing.
                                         
                                         But like I got a I got an R.E.I. gift card from work.
                                         
                                         And I bought me some Merrell's, the Moab's or whatever.
                                         
                                         Classic, bro.
                                         
                                         The Moab boot, dude.
                                         
                                         That's great.
                                         
                                         I do great every day.
                                         
                                         Very comfortable.
                                         
    
                                         I have a pair as well.
                                         
                                         Great.
                                         
                                         I wore them to the grocery store today.
                                         
                                         So nice.
                                         
                                         So nice.
                                         
                                         You know, they're great.
                                         
                                         You know why?
                                         
                                         Because it's like it's the best parts of the best parts of a sneaker and then the best part of like a hiking boot.
                                         
    
                                         And then they butt fuck each other.
                                         
                                         And then you get not too heavy, but plenty of support.
                                         
                                         You know, you know, Moab stands for.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Mother of all boots.
                                         
                                         Nice.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that works.
                                         
                                         You're welcome.
                                         
    
                                         That's a free one for the Pendejos.
                                         
                                         Yeah. I feel like you have underrated
                                         
                                         swag i mean like i don't know if this is a thing that ever gets brought up um but take it from me
                                         
                                         an expert thomas has has very uh it's underrated low-key swag even though the last time i saw you
                                         
                                         you were like yeah i just came from getting profiled in the APC store, which was like these these guys like, yo, you're too poor to be in Soho.
                                         
                                         Like you can't. Yeah, I look too poor to show. I was like, oh, I'm going to I'm not going to buy anything, but I'll go to the Prada store and I or whatever.
                                         
                                         If they could see it showed up above my head. This guy just thought I don't have money, but I'm going to the Prada store.
                                         
                                         Yeah, bro. Fucking fool.
                                         
    
                                         They're like, yeah, I have an appointment.
                                         
                                         I'm like, am I getting am I getting racially profiled as white trash in here?
                                         
                                         Yeah, 100 percent.
                                         
                                         Only and only in Soho.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but it is a bunch of fucking guys in Chelsea boots.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Trench coats five years after they were cool.
                                         
                                         True.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, of course.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         You honestly, like objectively, if we were to do like a lineup of I'm trying to remember what you were in that day you're like tommy bahama up right it was
                                         
                                         it was pretty it was like a warm day if i remember yeah i only brought floor i only brought like
                                         
                                         floral button downs on that trip i mean when it went in rome you know oral button downs and calvin
                                         
                                         klein white teeth that's all i brought it's all classics dude but yeah you you probably if we were to do a's all I need. Classics, dude. But yeah, you, you probably,
                                         
                                         if we were to do a lineup, not to like suck your dick here, but I feel like,
                                         
                                         yeah, you look, you probably look better than whoever, you know,
                                         
    
                                         half of the customers look like, you know what I'm saying? Like that, I,
                                         
                                         I that's the problem. Yeah.
                                         
                                         I will say that we were in, I also, I did not have any money, but that's fine.
                                         
                                         You know, I like it's, it's cool to, to, you know,
                                         
                                         see different areas like that. Yeah. I had a lot, I had a lot of fun in chinatown that place oh yeah dude chinatown rocks
                                         
                                         bro did you did you eat any like did you get like dumplings or like rice noodles yeah dude i got
                                         
                                         those fucking soup dumplings hell yeah bro i love soup and all that yeah there um dude do you have
                                         
                                         a good time dude i had a great time i love new york um i
                                         
    
                                         want to try and go back this winter because we're going to try and set some shows up
                                         
                                         oh tight bro so i'll keep you updated on that please do but uh yeah but yeah
                                         
                                         well listen bro the city welcomes you back as the as the mayor the king of new york i welcome you
                                         
                                         back with open arms obviously yeah um yeah dude that'll be sick dude yeah winter is well it's an bro the city welcomes you back as the as the mayor the king of new york i welcome you back
                                         
                                         with open arms obviously yeah um yeah dude that'd be sick dude yeah winter is well it's an interesting
                                         
                                         time what i would tell you guys is like fall is the best time winter i don't know like if we're
                                         
                                         talking february or whatever but like yo it's a little dicey but you know i guess that's why you
                                         
                                         guys can be a winner is like yeah i'm like if it's not 105 here it's winter yeah the bell house is like all right so
                                         
    
                                         pendejo time all right so we can get you guys february 14th to february 28th we have no no one
                                         
                                         else is like we got you guys yeah we're doing monday morning shows yo we're doing we're doing
                                         
                                         monday morning it's february 17th come on out we're doing a
                                         
                                         commuter show it's at 6 a.m yeah yeah yeah we're gonna be on the on the m train yeah
                                         
                                         honestly the fact that i've never seen this but it would be a good bit for someone to do is like
                                         
                                         uh be like a um you know like a showtime guy in the subway but it's like you and your boy
                                         
                                         doing a podcast and you're asking for money like you're literally paying it's like irl i mean it's
                                         
                                         irl patreon right yeah you're just trying to riff as you go like oh dude you guys are just riffing
                                         
    
                                         about the people on the train like you just right to their actually it's kind of a genius idea you
                                         
                                         guys ever been on the subway and everybody just starts fucking hitting me? Yeah, just beating. You're just getting hate-crimed, bro, but because you're a podcaster,
                                         
                                         not because of anything else.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, dude.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that would be – someone should – some listener should –
                                         
                                         I don't know if you have any – or how many listeners you have in New York
                                         
                                         because I'm sure you definitely got some fucking Brooklyn scumbags,
                                         
    
                                         but someone should do that and send Thomas the video of you doing it.
                                         
                                         That would be tight.
                                         
                                         That would be fun.
                                         
                                         Yeah, dude, for real. Well'd be tight. Yeah, dude.
                                         
                                         For real.
                                         
                                         Well, thank you.
                                         
                                         Thanks for coming on, man.
                                         
                                         Thanks for having me, bro.
                                         
    
                                         I appreciate you.
                                         
                                         I know you're a busy man, but this was fun.
                                         
                                         Yeah, dude.
                                         
                                         I hope when your girlfriend or if your girlfriend,
                                         
                                         because I don't want to be presumptuous because she might not give a shit
                                         
                                         about what we talked about, but you can tell her talked about koi fish
                                         
                                         and we talked about. Bo can tell her talked about koi fish and we talked about uh boots boots and
                                         
                                         um music yeah yeah which is honestly the best that's the best those are that's the uh the
                                         
    
                                         mount rushmore of podcasting topics honestly if you were to ask me yeah you don't need to talk
                                         
                                         about you don't need to bring anything else up really On any given episode
                                         
                                         No not at all dude
                                         
                                         Thank you for having me bro I appreciate it
                                         
                                         Of course man that was fun
                                         
                                         Oh and by the way check out
                                         
                                         Throwing Fits
                                         
                                         On Patreon and all that
                                         
    
                                         Swag me out bros
                                         
                                         Thank you dude appreciate that
                                         
                                         Yeah man this was fun thank you again
                                         
                                         Alright see ya
                                         
