Perfect Day with Jessica Knappett - EP 43: Kerry Godliman

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

Joining Jess this week, in an attempt to discover her perfect day, is the incredible comedian, actor, writer, podcaster and full-time hater of landfill, Kerry Godliman. After a few technical difficulties the duo try to get down to business, but somehow end up in a spiral about all the things that can make a person feel antsy. Kerry joins a cult, eats some chunky fruit and also lets us in on her experience shooting the new Spinal Tap movie! Like and subscribe for brand-new episodes every Thursday. Follow us on Instagram @perfectdaycast. And, why not get in touch? Email us at [e-mail] A Keep It Light Media ProductionSales and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome back, I'm Jessica Knappett and you are not Kevin. Today's slightly less than perfect day, I am joined by my friend, my enemy in Taskbuster only, not in real life. The incredible comedian, actor, writer, podcaster, Kerry Keza Godleyman, aka Donna! If you know, you know. As you're about to hear, we had some technical challenges. Sure. Did it anger Kazza Godlyman? Yes, a bit. But we persevere. And I think it was a welcome addition. She makes stress very funny and that's her thing, isn't it? So it was really, it was perfect. We have an incredibly funny, incredibly stressed, as always, Tangent Rampant episode. Tangent Rampant because... Kerry, did she think about her perfect day beforehand? No. Was she in the mood for recording a podcast. I would say not really. But all of that really genuinely was

a welcome addition to the whole Atmos. We spend a healthy amount of time just listing things that could make a person antsy. You know, perimenopause, nutrition, weather, the rise of the far right. We also hear some seriously strong opinions from Kerry on Witch magazine. And I think it's about time, don't you? We discuss. VPLs, cults, beautiful places and landfill. Occasionally I do ask her about her perfect day but as we decide the answer is she doesn't know and the episode is podcast jazz. Take it as it comes. Let's get skip up going to Kerry Garlemans. Perfect day. It's all landfill! P-O-F-C-T

P-O-F-C-T Alright then. You're now dealing with a really angry middle-aged woman that can't work technology. I'm sorry that it started this way. I'm sorry too. I mean, you know, I know a better person than me would have set it all up before the allocated time, but I'm sorry that I'm not that person. I turned it on at 10. I think that's the way to go.

It's all I've got, Jess. Because we don't have time to get ourselves together and you know, it starts at 10, we turn up at 10. Yeah. And you've got makeup on. Well done, you. I look like shit. I knew we were going to be on camera because long gone are the days when these things were just an audio medium. Now we've got to have, I meant to have had tweetments pre- I know. Fucking tell me about it. I forget, cause we only use it for a little clip. We don't put the whole thing out.

Well, can you put every filter that technology's got at this? You look great. You always look great. We've talked about this. I remember talking to you on Serenbe and I was like, I'm thinking about getting Botox. And you were like, don't do it. You need to look like a real person. And now here I am very much a real person with regrets. But you always look great and like a real person. Do you not get anything? No. Don't you?

What do you mean? I mean, where's the line? I get my hair dyed. This isn't my natural hair color. So yes, I get things done. Right, right. But I don't put needles in my face. No.

Do you ever get a facial? No, but I tell you what, recently I did feel really old because I messaged this local mum that I know that is a makeup artist and I said, do you know where I can get a local good facial? And she messaged me back and went, I haven't had a facial for over 10 years, I get Botox. Really?

Yeah, she said, no one's getting facials anymore, Kerry. Last one I got done was for my wedding day. I feel like a character out of Call the Midwife. Everyone's at it. Everyone's at it. What do you mean a character out of Call the Midwife? Retro. A midwife. No, an old fashioned lady from the past.

An oldie worldie woman. An oldie worldie. Where can I get a facial? Oh, I... And she went, no one's getting facials, Kerry. No one does that anymore. Apparently she said that, but then she might not be. There's just so many things to choose from.

That's sort of the problem. I did it once and I actually think it made me feel a bit anxious because I couldn't... It gave me a headache. The facial? No, the both... I had both. Oh, you had it once. Oh, it was weird. And then I couldn't move my face. The thing is that that stuff goes into your face

and then it has to drain out of your body. Because it does drain through your body because that's why you have to have it done again. Where does it go, Jess? Where does it go? It goes into your fucking lymph nodes, doesn't it? Oh, that can't be good. It can't be good for you.

It can't be good. And I think be good for you. It can't be good. And I think it made me feel a bit antsy. That could be anything. That could be perimenopause. That could be nutritional. Oh, fuck off. That could be like weather. That could be the rise of the fire, right?

Instagram. It could be, it could be microplastics. It could be your kids. It could be, let's go through all the list of things that can make you feel antsy. Generational trauma. Generational trauma. Environmental breakdown. Gut health.

Let's go on gut health. Are you getting enough gut biomes? Gut biomes. I think I am because I'm spending about 45 quid a month on probiotics now. Are you? Well, yes. That's something I'm not doing. I need to be doing that. I eat kimchi.

I like it. Oh, well, there you go then. Is that enough? Do you make it yourself? No. Someone explained. I went on one of those TV cooking programs where you have to be jolly and they made kimchi. Which one did you go on?

Brunchy Lunchy Saturday Sunday. Brunchy Lunchy Saturday Sunday. One of those. Kitchen. Yes. Saturday Kitchen. Sunday Brunch, Saturday Kitchen. And somebody made you some kimchi.

Someone made me kimchi and explained how to make it. And there was maths involved, chemistry and maths. And that's not my strong. I just zoned out. My husband started talking to me about, we've got to get a new car. And he started talking to me about the car last night. And I just zoned out. And I just got back in and he was still talking.

And I was like, I've got to stop you. I'm so sorry. I haven't taken in any of that. Cause it's too boring. I do apologize, I don't give a shit. You're going to have to handle this. Cause my brain, I actually can't listen to things that are too boring.

I said to a friend, what car have you got? Cause we needed a new car and I went, what car have you got? And she went this and I went, I'll get that. Cause her husband did what your husband did, which is engage with it. And then I'm like, well, if one person on this street is engaged with it, can't you just take one for the team? Why do we all have to engage with it? So copying each other is actually a time saver.

So you think when you're keeping up with the Joneses that that's that's what it is. You think you're competing, but really Gary's been through Witch magazine. And I'm not going through Witch magazine. Ben, my husband's parents got him subscription to Witch magazine as a Christmas present and I was like, is that a passive aggressive, is that like meant with love? Cause that is not received with love. And, and then I was bitching about it with a friend and went God you

won't believe what Barry and Pat got Ben for Chris and she went I've got a subscription to which magazine it's brilliant I was like I don't know who you are I don't know who anyone is. Carrie I hate to break it to you. You haven't! Have you got it? Why would anyone sit and flick through which magazine? No we've got a household subscription me Me and my husband. Because of the decision making. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. None of it matters. We're all being hoodwinked into caring about things that are fucking, it's all landfill. Kerry, I'm very

passionate about my purchases. I am not a consumer. I'm a human being. In the upside down, my perfect day would be to sit and flick through which magazine and choose white goods. That is like literally the upside down me. The imperfect day? Yeah. That's your worst day, is it? The imperfect day is downloading new platforms on the internet. We should say that we've started very badly.

We've gone really neg. We've gone room 101 early doors. We've gone first, Keza, which actually is my favourite, my favourite Kerry Godley bit anyway. This is the only setting. I don't have other settings. Oh mate, I'm actually shocked though, because I feel like you are, as we know, from Taskmaster, you are the queen of Bosch. Well, we might need to unpack this because you and me are one point apart, mate. Oh my God, there's so much to discuss there. So much to discuss. Can I just compliment you? Because I think something I will copy,

talk about talking about people being inspiring and having things you want. I'm going to get a microphone that covers up this area of my neck. Because that is a stroke of genius. I'm not suggesting you've got jowls, but I'm going to get a proper mic that sits here. I revealed my jowls.

Oh, there they are. Because, oh! Pop it back up. Put it back. Can we Botox our necks? I feel like now, this is the area I'm most upset about. It's the old Thunderbirds. So I wonder if it would be appropriate to just...

You haven't got any Thunderbirds. You've got a perfect face. Jess, you absolute charmer. No, I'm serious. I can't believe you don't get shit done. I don't believe you. I don't believe you. No, very much look 51, which is exactly my age.

Amazing. I don't know where to start with you. Okay. There's so much I want to talk to you about. Okay. Should we crack on with the perfect day and then we'll just go off on tangents? Yes.

Can I just be transparent from the tip top? You haven't. I haven't done any prep. I thought what I do is I thought of the, now I think of podcasting as jazz and I just thought I'd meet you where we find each other and we would just like jazz improv with each other. That is what this is. Hard jazz. I am going to ask you questions.

It is called Perfect Day and people do tune in to hear what people's Perfect Day might be. I just thought I'm not going to be influenced by other people. And also I'm going to go with how I feel today. No, that's, that's absolutely... Because things change. Of course they do. When people ask me what my favourite flimflam is, I panic and I go, I can't, it was different

10 years ago to what it might be in 10 years. I can only go with today. I actually really hate hypotheticals. So I'm surprised that I, this is an okay question, but I don't actually like people asking me what your favorite thing is, what you've, so I don't know why I've put this on people. You're doing exactly that. Yeah. No, it's, it's my worst. It's actually my worst nightmare.

Sorry to break your pod when you get me on, I just ruined it. Right, we're going to start, we're going to start. I'm going to ask you what your perfect morning is today. Okay. The nature of our lifestyle is that we don't really have routines, do we? We have lots of different kind of days. Every week is a bit different. This is the thing, and you're on tour at the moment. I am on tour at the moment.

So you definitely don't have a routine. Do you like a routine normally? No, I think I've engineered a life where I don't have a routine, but I don't mind, I do quite like having occasional blocks. So if we're like, if you're on a shoot or something, I quite like that. I quite like, oh, I'm getting up every day at the same time and I'm going to set and I'm having mushrooms on toast every day for my breakfast. Is that your set breakfast? Mushroom toast?

Yeah, that's my set breakfast. Nice. So I kind of like that, but I know it's temporary. Yeah, I know. I know what you mean. But also you don't, it's not real life when you film it though, because again, all the decision making is made for you. You don't have to Yes, it's very infantilizing. You're like, dress me, dress me. I remember you really calling that out when we were doing Taskmaster. You were like, we are children on this show.

And then, what are you talking about? No, we're not. And then we went into our dressing rooms, we had sweeties. Sweeties, and we made a den. Just me and you, we made a den for hours. We put plants in it. Did we? That might be my perfect day. There you go. This is coming to me in the jazz. Mushrooms on toast. Mushrooms on toast. More like make a den with Jess Nappet.

That's a good morning, isn't it? It's a great morning. I don't remember making a den. Oh my God. It was my favourite thing. Actually, when people say, what was your favourite tasks? A huge standout was our sitcom. Donna and Donna.

Donna and Donna. And I don't know why it hasn't been picked up. I don't either. But it will. I'm deadly serious about this. So this is my perfect day, morning. Going to set to film Donna and Donna. And you're in the trailer next to me. I'll be banging,

Oi! What are you having for breakfast? And then we can get ready. Donna! Donna! And then we can get ready. Donna! And then we get to build the set, which is a den. A den with plants in it. Do you build dens while your kids are a bit old now? My kids are 18 and 15, so no dens. I barely see them. They only talk to me when the crisps

are on out. So I have very little to do with them. Yours are still little and they like you. Yeah, they do. We are in like the den building zone. I love den building. I did a job recently with a kid, child actor who was brilliant. And one of the like warm up exercises and everything, they wanted us to bond. So I played his grandma. That's my new casting now. Grandma. Yeah, mate. First grandma job. I remember my first mom job and now first grandma in Telly land. Because women aren't, female casting is not the same as male casting.

No, it is not. No, it is not. So when you are my age, you can play grandma. I cannot believe you're a grandma. You must be. They aged me up a bit. They've aged you up. And I mean this respectfully.

This is a working class role. Yeah, probably. Also, we work out that, you know, technically, if I had my kid at 20 something and they had their kid at 20 something, I could very much be a grandma. Yeah, but like the youngest grandma that has ever been seen on television. Well, not in my social economic demographic, darling, but in others, sure, I can be a grandma. Anyway, I built a den with this kid. Right.

And I really got into it more than the kid. He drifted off. I was like, where are you going? We're building a den. Where are you going? And it had shoes in it, loads of shoes. And then we drifted into shoe shop. That's the great thing about playing with kids is that you like, we started off with den, now we're playing shoe shop. Make believe. The thing is that when you're actually like in the thick of parenting, it's quite hard and it's exhausting. Yes. Were you the sort of parent that really played with your kids?

Yeah, sometimes. I always felt a bit self-conscious doing it. I did it for a bit, but my daughter, who is now an adult, she and I would sort of bicker. Do you know what I mean? So it would start like, I'm facilitating your play. And then I'd be like, well, that doesn't really go there. And she'd be like, well, it's my choice. And then we'd be bickering. And I'd be like, oh, I'm bickering with a six year old. I've got some notes on this.

Yeah, like I wouldn't put that there. I mean, if you want to put that there, sure. But I wouldn't put that there. And then we would get too into it. There's a video, do you ever watch little videos of when the kids were little? Well, yours still are little. For my 50th, Ben, this was a lovely gift.

He put all the videos and pictures and everything into one laptop. Cause I never knew where they all were. They were on clouds and sticks and God knows what. So he put them all on one iPad, all the videos of when the kids were little and everything. Cause I always panicked that I didn't really know where it all was. So he consolidated it all. It was a really good

present. That's a really good present. One of the videos was him talking to Elsie playing and her just bossing him around just like that's not a cow that's a pig it was a cow but she was just arguing it's a pig it's like all right darling it's a pig and it just became so argy bargy which is a phrase that I'm bringing back by the way argy And it just became so argy bargy, which is a phrase that I'm bringing back, by the way, argy bargy, it became so argy bargy so quickly that it wasn't much fun. It was just arguing. There's a certain age where they are very contrary.

Especially little girls, very contrary. No, it's not. Mine's at that age. Do you do that? Do you do like playing? I try to, yeah, but. It's hard, isn't it? It is, it's hard.'t it? It is it's hard like once you get into it then you can completely lose yourself in it and like you know go I can go full method like yeah I am an octopus now. Yeah and how long could you do that for? Well until someone's made my tea

and oh you could go for hours I could I'm form. I can do it for about four minutes. The length of a TikTok. It depends how fun it is, is the truth. At the moment, we've got a game that we ripped from a show called Bluey, which is called Octopus. I've heard about Bluey. We've evolved it so that the Octopus, so I'm an octopus and I sit on the sofa and throw cushions at my kids. Yes.

But I have to have my eyes closed. If I hear them, I can throw a cushion at them. Oh, I know a game like that. That's, oh God, this is Menopause Brain, but you play it in a swimming pool. Oh, yeah, it's like Marco Polo. Marco Polo, that's it. Yeah, exactly. You haven't got any maker balls in the room.

Loads, yeah, loads. So the cushions are my squid ink. I close my eyes and I just lob cushions. That does sound good. I played it with some other people's kids the other day and they were not as tough as my kids and one of them cried when I lobbed a cushion at their head. Oh Jess, that's a bit of a buzzkill, isn't it? And then, so then we had to stop the game and then I was like, well I don't really feel like an octopus

anymore. I guess we'll stop, we'll play something else because you've really taken me out of my character. I like that out of my character. I like that sort of game though. I don't like all the toys. Like that's what I used to get stressed about is all the toys, all the more landfill. Yeah. You're very upset about the environment, aren't you? I mean, as you should. Well, I, both my immediate and the whole planet, like your own house, just full of

old sort of plastic shit, and then you think the whole planet's full of plastic shit. So it's like a micro macro situation. I know. Do you sort out your hat? Like, do you go through phases where you're like, I'm just gonna get rid of it all? Yeah. And get all the clutter out.

And if I'm in the right mood, that could be a perfect morning. Just giving my house a colonic irrigation, getting all the shit out. Yes. I quite like a clear out. A proper purge. Yeah, I quite like it.

Bagging it all up and getting it out. Yes. I remember also on Taskmaster, you bringing in the back of... I can't remember what it was like most annoying. Oh, the back of the cupboard. The back of the telly. Was it the back of the telly? Yeah, back of the telly DVD player player, PS4, all of it. I don't know.

It works, but if it stops working, we'll have to move because I don't know how anything connects to anything. As we've just witnessed with my tech. I'm not tech, I don't do tech. No, well, you started saying when we got on listeners, we had some trouble connecting and we had to use a different platform. And Kerry said, none of this would be happening if it wasn't for the fucking

pandemic. We wouldn't be doing this remotely. It just wasn't a thing pre-COVID. I know. And I can't work out whether it's a good thing. I think it's a good thing. Well, you're up north and I'm in London, so we wouldn't be doing this if we weren't doing it remotely. I'm like absolutely insisting on staying in the north. I think that's really good. And I can now. It's really good, except yesterday I had to travel to London for an audition. Right.

And, you know, it's a bit of a commute. And then when I got there, I heard the words that you don't want to hear. It's tomorrow. Are you joking? Oh, I feel a lot better about us changing platforms earlier now. Cause you came a long way. Yeah, that's bad. So I assume you've done a self-tape and this was a recall.

Yeah. Because usually the first base is a tape. Again, post-COVID. We call it first base. First base is a tape and then then second base is human to human. Human to human, but I fucked it, came on the wrong day, so now it's gonna have to be over Zoom. I would say that massively decreases your chances of getting the job.

What do you think? I've never done a Zoom audition. Right. So I got offered, the other day they said, do you want a tape or Zoom? And I was like, what, Zoom? I thought real life or tape, but what's this new hybrid thing, Zoom?

I don't think you should be doing Zoom auditions. I don't think I should be doing Zoom auditions. What was it like? Like this, I suppose? It was a bit like this, yeah. And then we went for a take, they recorded it over Zoom, and then they went, that just broke up. We didn't get that. Oh, for God's sake. I can't bear it. I can't bear it. Someone said to me the other day, you don't take, do you? I was like, what are you talking about? What are you talking about?

I don't tape. It would be funny if you didn't though. Like I would say that you're an offer. Everyone tapes. You're an offer only kind of girl. Very much not. Very much not that. Very much tape for anything.

Very firmly in the camp off still taping. How do you judge whether or not something is worth going up for? Like, are there parts that are too small that you wouldn't audition for, because they're too small? No, because it depends on the thing. So I had one scene in that Florence Pugh, Andrew Garfield film.

Oh yes, you were brilliant in that. I watched it on the plane. So I had one scene and that was arguably small, but in a big film. So sometimes it kind of depends on the context, doesn't it? So I had a lovely day hanging out with movie stars and I was very happy to be there. So that was fun. That was great. A very funny and dramatic scene. It's a lovely scene, isn't it? I really enjoyed doing that. And are you allowed to talk about anything else you've been filming? You mean Spinal Tap? Yes. Yes.

I am allowed to talk about that because the internet has said that. So anything that's out in the world of the internet is out there. It was so lovely. So when's it out? I do now know that they are going to premiere it in America in September. Whoa. I have got no idea when it will be on in the UK. I hope around the same time. Tell us a bit about the experience of making Spinal Tap. Well, all of it was a joy. I was with like the brilliant original cast. So it was all the band members with Christopher Guest, Mike

McKean and Harry Shearer. And it was directed by Rob Reiner. And it all just felt like a kind of cheese dream that I thought I'd wake up from. And I was in New Orleans for a month shooting it. And that's an interesting, so that was like a perfect, there were lots of perfect days in that I was away. I was in a city that I've always wanted to go to,

but never foresaw going to. So I was kind of like a tourist, but I was there for a month. So I wasn't tearing around. I did loads of yoga. I went on lots of walks. I went and saw a lot of jazz. We're back to jazz.

Jazz seems to be a recurring theme of this. Were you a jazz fan before you went to New England? I've never been a jazz fan. I've always been a bit jazz phobic. Yeah. I'd say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But not jazz allergic. I just feel like it's sort of a furry say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But not jazz allergic.

I just feel like it's sort of a furry funny. Yeah, it's funny. I might've said this before, I think, and I don't know how literally true this is, but I saw an interview with Jerry Seinfeld and he said that he writes the line, do you like jazz in everything? He always says, do you like jazz? And I'm here. It's a good starting question.

I didn't say it. And then, and since I saw that, I was like, it just pops up all the time. Hey, do you like jazz? And I'm here. It's a good starting question. I didn't say it. And then, and since I saw that, I was like, it just pops up all the time. Hey, do you like jazz? Like as an improv line, it is very funny. Yeah, it is. But I went, I did go and see quite a lot of jazz in New Orleans, because if you're in, if you're in New Orleans, why wouldn't you? You're living essentially inside a jazz club. Yes, exactly. And it literally music of all, not just jazz, but loads of music, just pours out of every building. It's sort of magical. Heaven.

So I loved it. I really loved it. So there were lots of perfect days there. Oh, okay. So if you had to choose a perfect morning, is it going to work? Is it a set morning mushrooms on toast? Well, I do like working and it is lovely to go to a set. So that could be a perfect morning. But then there's working. This is why I can't pick things, Jess. Because also I would like to be on a yoga retreat

and wake up to an amazing view and have like a sort of fruit breakfast. And then- Oh, like white lotus. Yeah. Well, no, without the kind of like, without the triangle of sadness elements. Do you know what I mean? White Lotus. Yeah. Well, no, without the kind of like, without the triangle of sadness elements. Do you know what I mean? White Lotus, which gang would I be in? The Wanky Gang or in the Cool Gang? The morning on White Lotus and it's the breakfast scenes, they just eat loads of like really chunky

fruit. Yeah, chunky fruit and amazing views, but without the exploitation. Right. Being in a beautiful place would be key. Okay. Well, thanks for being so specific. Thanks. No problem. I'm really sorry. I told you it'd be jazz. It's jazz. Okay. So we're in a beautiful place. And then is this a memory? Have you been on this yoga retreat in a beautiful way? I've been on a yoga retreat once and my plan for this new future chapter of my life, now I'm entering

middle age and my kids don't care about me, is that I will be on more yoga retreats. Really? That's my intention. So I have been scrolling yoga retreats. But is this really you, Cass? Yes, I love it. Oh really? Oh yeah, 100%.

I'd half live on a yoga retreat if I could get away with it, but not a wanky white lotusy one. Right. A kind of like wholesome, like a cult. I'd happily join a cult. You know those documentaries about- Wholesome cult. Yeah, wholesome cult where no one's horrible or like groping anyone.

Because often when you watch a documentary about like Wild, Wild Country, I can watch that and fail to see what the problem is until at least episode three, where I'm like, it all looks great. They're eating well. They look really happy. Beautiful landscape. They're really, they've really got this sorted. I think they've given all their money and there's one bloke at the top that is

behaviorally very problematic. So yeah, it's not ideal. But when I watch people talk about cults, I'm like, I'm not sure what the problem is. No, I mean, well, that's, that's why they're so successful. Yeah, that's the appeal. I'm definitely cult fodder. I think I am as well. Really? I think probably quite a lot of people are. Again, for me, it's the decision making. Yeah, someone else has done all of it.

Tell me what to wear. If you want me to wear that maroon robe, just chuck it over. What you have to do is make me really busy and then just give me an easy yes or no. I definitely have been emotionally manipulated into behaving certain ways just in the TV industry. It's quite easy to just get people so busy and stressed that then you can be like, do you want to wear this white dress? Do you want to have a baby with this person or this person? You're like, thank you. Thank God. This is so much more straightforward than Grindr. Yeah, which one?

Not Grindr. Do I mean Grindr? Grindr. No, hang on. I don't... I meant a dating platform, but I think I might have gone for the gay one. I think Grindr's the gay one. No, it is... Right. What do I mean? Tinder? Do you mean Tinder? Bumble? Humble. I don't...

What? I mean, yeah. That's the new dating app. Humble? Humble. What? I mean, yeah. That's the new dating app, Humble. Humble sounds like a lovely dating app actually. That's a sort of cult-like dating app that you've created. It's very humbling. So on your perfect morning, are we saying that you're in a cult? Yeah, let's say I'll be in a cult. Well, great. Yeah. We just do a bit of gardening, a bit of yoga,

a bit of meditation. Everyone's nice to each other. It does sound lovely. You know I've got hippie leanings. We've talked about this before. Oh yeah. So how deep do your hippie leanings go? Well, I was sort of brought up that way a bit. I mean, I flip flop between extreme consumerist commitment and fury and crystal up the bum kind of hippie sort of faps. Have you put a crystal up your bum? No, I haven't put one up my bum. I was being hyperbolic for comedic effect, but you know what I mean about a crystal up

the bum. I do know exactly what you mean. For the lower chakras. I just bought quite a lot of crystals actually. I just went to Arizona. We went to some canyons and there were quite a lot of crystal shops along the way and my kids fucking love crystals. We did get some beautiful amethysts. So calming and rubbed them all over yourself. I rubbed them all over myself. Did you stick them on your third eye? I got

my two year old-old to choose a crystal in the shop and she went for a blue, I think it was called a blue selenite or something like that. And then I read on the thing that it was for astral, what's it called? What's it called when you, is it astral leaping or something like that? I've heard of that. When people, I don't know what it is, but I've heard of it. People basically think they can meditate into other planes. Into other planes. Well, did you get it for her?

Has she been doing that? Yes, so I bought her that and who knows where she's been since we bought her that. I'm really excited to find out. See, I'm fully available for all that stuff. It's better than them scrolling. What's the hippiest thing you've done recently, do you think, apart from signed up to a cult? Signed up to a cult? I don't know. I dip in and out. I mean, just chatting with my mum is probably the hippiest thing. My mum is much more into that stuff, much more spiritually

attuned or switched on. Is she into yoga and stuff? Yeah, yoga and all that kind of stuff. She just is more that way. It's very hard to find the language, isn't it? To make it... And also, it's such a... When you live in the world that we live in, the comedy world, it's just so ripe for piss-taking,

that kind of vibe. I know. So I really struggle to describe it without just tipping into piss taking. I've talked to you about reiki. And then my brain says flaky reiki because it goes straight into the piss take. And I remember you saying, it's too subtle for me. Did I?

It is subtle. It doesn't work or something. I don't know. I haven't had enough of it to comment. But when I've had, when people have done it, like on me, I'm like, I can't feel it. It's like cranium osteopathy. I can't feel it. Click me. Click me. Click me about. Do you want to be like, like, you want to be able to hear it when people are? Yeah, I guess so. You want your be like, like you want to be able to hear it when people are. Yeah, I guess so. You want your back cracked. Oh, that could be another perfect day's treatments.

Okay. Let's just move. This is this massage. An absolute fucking mess. This is like the back of your TV. We're going to just move on to the next topic. I'm really sorry. It's just content.

Just content. We're just filling an hour, aren't we? Fuck it. Right. So what's your perfect afternoon, Carrie? Right. I'd love to have treatments. I'd love to have. I'd love to have. So I've had a nice lunch and maybe a nap. And now- Oh, what have you had for lunch? What have you had for lunch? Oh, I've had all these, right.

Talking of podcast overlap, so I assume you've done, everyone's done, my dog's done off menu. Yes. Right, so I got a lot of shit on that because I chose salads. Oh yeah, well, I mean, what do you expect? I got so much feedback.

I bet you did. Because I'm not talking about crap salads, I'm talking about top end salads. Like what? I mean how good can it be? Like those otolengi ones where you have like cooked things with herbs and like specially spiced things and then pomegranate seeds and then all that shit. I would far rather eat that than, oh, I had a burger. I could really overeat. Salad. Really bougie salads. Carrie, you're doing it again. And I'm talking like orzo, bits of cheese, nuts, a couple of nuts thrown in there, really lovely herbs, all chopped up and sprinkled on top, fresh. Some sort of lab.

Dips. Yeah. All I can say is Otolengi shit because I've got those cookbooks and I can't get involved because they're too complicated. So if someone else has made it for me, that's my perfect lunch. And I don't want any feedback. Can you remember anything that anyone said specifically? I don't listen to the trolls Jess, I don't memorize the trolls. Oh right okay because sometimes it stays with you doesn't it? Sometimes it stays with you. Oh if you want to talk about

old reviews sure. What's a line? Pedestrian three stars. What's a line? Is that what's in your head? Pedestrian is the word that always goes pedestrian. I'm like, oh you fucker. Pedestrian. This is the thing we've drifted into neg. I'm going to stay positive. Oh, it's my fault. Tell me about your tour because you're smashing it now on this massive tour. There's a few, I noticed that there's a few tickets left towards the end, but

everything else is just sold out. A lot of it sold out. Yeah. I've been really pleased. Not Lancaster. What. They don't want me there. What is it with Lancaster? I've spoken to other comics and they went, oh, they'll rock up on the day. They just stopped buying them in advance. Really?

Seems to be the one where they don't pre-book. I like it. It's a uni town, isn't it? Is it? Is it a uni town? Yeah. But yes, a lot of them have sold out and I've had some lovely shows. I've really enjoyed it. I was a bit resistant to doing it at first, I suppose, because you do have to plan it quite far ahead and you have to write a whole hour of stand-up, which you then have to work up and do lots of work in progress and all that stuff. It's a long journey and I was sort of,

you know, resistant to it because I'm like, oh no, I want to go and have mushrooms on toast on a set. I don't want to be vulnerable at the foothills of a creative process. But I'm actually now glad. It's a big commitment though, isn't it? It is a big commitment. It's called bandwidth. Yeah, and it's sort of about me just being middle-aged

and not being able, it's a lot of just, it's quite domestic. Yes, it's classic Godleyman, it's classic Godleyman. It's classic Godleyman fury, outrage. My favourite thing. You make stress so funny. Yeah, that's my therapy. An hour of me being livid. And just since I've been, I thought I knew what anger was in my thirties and forties, but

now I'm in my fifties, a whole, like all new rooms of rage have opened up. A whole rainbow of fury has opened up. What's making you really cross at the moment? Well, we've touched on quite a lot of it. I mean, there's a lot of stuff, like anything from knickers to authoritarianism. What makes you cross about knickers? Well they end up in the wrong drawers. So my husband will put the washing away and he'll put my daughter's knickers in my drawer

and my knickers in her drawer. And I'm like, whoa, she's 18. We've got really different knickers. And you know that because you've seen my knickers. So we will have a lot of knicker rage. How do you feel about thongs? Oh, I don't you feel about thongs? Oh, I don't get involved in thongs.

That's like flossing your ass. I generally, if I can find a way to use the word gusset in any conversation, I will bring it in. What's your go to nicker? These days, large. Apple catchers. That's the old phrase, isn't it? Do you remember that?

Apple catchers? Yeah. Apple catchers where you hold them out like that and then you just collect loads of apples. Mine have to be those like Uniqlo, basically look like someone's just made them up. Like they've just got a piece of material and then just cut, like they can't have any VPL. Oh, I don't, I know, I don't get involved in that. I don't wear clothes that are tight enough to care about VPL. This is what happens when you get to a certain age.

Two things drift away. Giving a shit about VPL and using acronyms. Like a lot of acronyms now, I'm phasing them out. So VPL is not welcome. Okay. And there might be people listening that don't know what it stands for. They don't know what VPL is and there will be. Visible Panty Line.

I mean, if ever there was a fucking acronym that can get the fuck out of my head, it's Visible Panty Line. Well, the thing is that I I agree with you and I wish I didn't care that people could see my pants and know that I'm wearing pants. Of course you're wearing pants. Because I wear fucking pants. Because you're a human being and you wear pants. But then, like, if you're wearing a pair of trousers where you can see your knickers,

it does look, you've got to admit it looks bad. Especially if you're like me and you've got to admit it looks bad especially if you're like me and you've got an art like a proper ass. We're not designed to be able to see our arses okay for hundreds of years of evolution they're behind no one could see behind themselves now you go into a shop and there's like it's like a hall of mirrors and i'm like i don't want to see my arse ever it's horrible. We're not designed to see our asses. It's horrible, isn't it, when you catch it? It's really bad.

You're like, what is that? That looks medically worrying. It's like the moon. So I don't want to see my ass. I don't want to talk about my ass. I don't want to think about my ass. If someone else is troubled by a line that's inside my trousers? Fuck off then. Don't look.

Who's it for Jess? It's just to distract us from doing real things, isn't it? It's all designed to give us too many things to think about so we don't actually know. But no one's in charge. No one's in charge. So we received some messaging about VPLs and we're like, oh, VPLs, that sounds like someone with a lanyard thought that up. But it's bollocks. But then you want to be in a cult, so you would actually like it if someone was in charge. Yeah, but my cult would not be, it would not be interested in VPLs.

So would your cult leader be saying things like, hey ladies, don't worry about your VPL. Any leader that says, hey ladies, I probably would shut them down. My cult leader would say, there are no leaders, you lead yourself. Oh, fucking hell. She's so enlightened. Anyway, so your perfect afternoon then. What is it again? It would be buying knickers in M&S. Right.

My perfect afternoon would be... We have a salad and then we buy some knickers. Let's move on to your perfect night, which you won't know because you haven't thought about it, but we'll make it up on the spot. I'm not the worst guest you've had, am I? No. You didn't say no convincingly at all. In terms of preparation, you're the least prepared guest we've ever had on.

Sorry. But I also don't think it matters because even when people come and they are prepared, we generally don't even talk about the day. That's what happens in pod land. It's pod land, you know. It's jazz. It's jazz. It's pod jazz. It's pod jazz. It's what happens in pod land. It's pod land, you know. It's jazz. It's pod jazz. Gussets, cults, kids, octopuses.

Kerry, what's the perfect way for you to spend a night? Who are you with? Where are you? What are you doing? Is it dinner? Is it drinks? Are you gigging? If you're really honest, are you working? Um, if I'm really honest and we're seeking perfection, which is what you are asking, I probably wouldn't be working, but I do love gigging and when I don't do it, like, so when the pandemic happens and all that, I do miss it, but I wouldn't say that it would be my perfect evening. Okay. So what is then? Sitting under a weighted blanket watching a really good film. Oh, yes. Wouldn't even be out the house. So I've heard you on another

podcast talking about your favourite kind of films. You're into like Mike Lee and realism, aren't you? I think you said that on Brett's podcast. God, even that now is... That's bollocks now, is it? We change. So what would it be? I don't know. Today, if it was tonight, if it was tonight, what would you want? My son is a real film buff. He likes films. So I'm quite happy at the moment to let him

pick a film. And the other night we were in, this is the thing that happens, get ready for it. When your kids get older, they really don't want anything to do with you. So if they give you some attention and they say, shall we watch a film together? Or you say, do you want to watch a film together? And they say, yes. Because now they just stay in their rooms or they're out. That is heartbreaking. It really is, Jess. Just buckle up, mate, because it really does break your heart. Is it worse? You just sat in a room playing octopus on your own.

I can't. I actually. Throwing cushions at the air. I need to just remember that because at the moment it's just a constant testing of my patients. My daughter is leaving home in September. Oh God. I am braced for upset.

It's really challenging. So Frank said to me, my son said to me, let's watch a film and he's really into film. And we watched something by PT Anderson. It was Daniel Day-Lewis' last film. Oh, Phantom Thread, of course. Yeah. Phantom Thread. Right, yeah, I haven't seen that. We watched that and that was great.

I really enjoyed that. So- And I was really happy for him to just pick a film. And I said, he said, what'd you fancy? And I said, oh, I fancy something with costumes. I know everyone's always wearing costumes because that would be nudity, but I mean like period. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was brilliant.

So that was a perfect evening. Oh, lovely. Drinking and eating. I'm not a massive lover of eating out. No. Do you know what I mean? A lot of people really love all that, don't they? Yeah.

I don't mind it, but I'm not like a foodie and I'm not like, oh, this amazing restaurant and blah, blah, blah. You've got to be talking all night and I'd rather just relax. I'd rather have a relaxing time where you're sort of half talking, half not talking. Do you not see yourself as very sociable then? I've become less sociable. This is the interesting thing about being asked these questions about favorite things, is you have to reflect on how much you've changed.

My daughter now is at that age where she goes out all the time and I can remember being that age and my parents not being out. I remember where I used to go every Friday, Friday night out was like a big deal down the pub, talking shit, drinking loads, seeing if you can get off with someone. It's really important.

And I remember my parents staying in and I just thought, you losers, what's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? Why are you saying it? And now it's my turn to be the loser. And my daughter goes out all the time, every weekend to a party or to the pub or doing something, whatever. And I'm like, oh, I remember that.

I can't be asked with any of that now. So a perfect night for me is not really being out socializing. Weighted blanket, film. Ideally, a family-like evening. I did really enjoy the pandemic. I know you're not meant to say it, and it was awful for a lot of people, but I did quite like that everyone had to be in with me and hang out with me. And then you kind of like weren't allowed to go out. So before it became upsetting,

but when you could just drink loads of wine and like watch loads of films and you know, hang out. I quite like that. So you say before it became upsetting, so before you started like, before you- Before the panic scene. I would say that the panic was almost immediate for me. Well, yeah, but do you remember there was some sort of like occasions when the weather was really good.

That's when I sort of got into gardening. I was in the garden a lot. We were eating outside. Do you know what I mean? Like there were pockets of pleasure. I think people remember it really fondly. And then I was thinking, is it because we've forgotten that we were actually quite fearful?

Yeah, maybe. And we just remember, because then it was fine. So we just remember the good bits about it because then we knew it was okay. Yeah. Because we knew it was okay in the end. Yes, that's true. You sort of forget about the bit when you were scared. Yeah. But then I've just come

back from America when I was in Utah. Yeah. You'd have really liked this. What were you doing in Arizona and Utah? We were on a road trip. Of course, that sounds wonderful. My husband's from Colorado. Yeah. His dad lives in Arizona and his mum lives in New Mexico. So we did the drive. So we drove via Utah. When we went to Utah, we stayed in this place called Bluff and there was this reconstructed pioneer town. Wow. And you would have loved it. It had all these little cabins. There was a water wheel where you could mine for gold, and there was just like a little fake vegetable patch, and it was a real vegetable patch,

a fake grazing farm, just to show what it would have been like. And these people had traveled for nine weeks via cart over pathways that were described as not fit for a bird to fly over. Oh my God. A lot of people would make this journey and obviously perish along the way. Yeah. And these people managed to make the journey and get there and build a town, build a small town. Ignoring all the people that maybe live there already.

Sure, there may have been. There might have been. Some colonisation. Yes. It's interesting, isn't it, the difference between the word pioneer and coloniser. Yeah. And there was a nod to it because there was a wigwam in the corner. Oh, right, okay.

Maybe a bird and some other people did cross that terrain. There was some recognition that there might have be a wigwam in the corner. And then there was some pictures and it was like, hang on, that person's definitely, you've taken a wife who is clearly a Native American and you're living in this cabin now. But you know, genuinely some people did exist peacefully side by side. Yes. And those kind of historical role play places, were there some actors floating around in costumes? Sadly not. Oh man, that's another level of special. That was what I was there for. But my point was, as you could read all the little biographies on the cabins,

and they just described how like Mr and Mrs Hutchinson built this cabin and, you know, and they were like 19 years old. And then of course, Mrs Hutchinson died a year, you know, and they were like 19 years old. And then of course, Mrs. Hutchinson died a year, you know, perished a year later in childbirth. Yeah. And then he remarried and then the baby died. And then that girlfriend and every, every single biography, it was like this person died from this horrible disease or in childbirth or whatever. Yeah. But I thought maybe that's what we're missing. Those people would have been so grateful to be alive every day because not only did it take them

like nine weeks, like against all odds, they actually managed to stay alive. So life expectancy would have been really low. And so maybe the thing that's making us all so miserable is what I thought while I was walking around this pioneer town is the fact that we just take it for granted. Yeah definitely. But when we were in the panic, maybe that was one of the reasons why we were so happy. I think it must be reasons why we were so happy. I think it must be. Because we were like, oh actually we're quite lucky to be alive. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. It did make the world shrink down into manageable

pleasure zones. Pleasure zones? Little pleasure zones. Pleasure, like erogenous zones? No, not, you've made it sexual mate. I just, I would meant make a pizza. Oh, yeah, the pleasures the pizza zone Yeah, the pizza zone. Yeah, I made a pizza from scratch Did you? Things like that where you're like, that's all we're doing today

I can build a day around and it is a shame that this is being caused by a horrific global pandemic But actually when you just micro yourself into, okay, well, we're doing this, I did sort of get a kind of simple pleasure from little things. So you're right. It is in the context of... Because we're all just trying to pack too much into one day. Yeah. So as I get older, I'm trying to do less and not be as distracted and as busy by VPLs and all various other things that I don't need to worry about. And how's that working out?

Some days are better than others. Really? Yeah, definitely. I'm definitely getting better. I'm sort of working on it. It's a project that I'm working on. Because I think that's the thing about reflecting on aging is you go when you're young, you're driven, you're socially ambitious, you're, you know, and I just don't have that drive in that way anymore. I just don't. But of course we're programmed quite well to keep doing the things we've always done.

And I'm like, oh, you're gonna have to unprogram yourself. You're gonna have to do things consciously and be a bit more mindful about what you do and don't do. Because we just do things automatically, don't we? Yeah, I know. And you pick up your phone and you do it like, there's a spare second. Yeah.

And like, you know, thinking that things are important that you go, oh, that isn't important. I don't need to engage with that or worry about that. And then forgetting what is important. So how do you do less then? Like how do you- You have to get better at saying no. You have to get better at just having boundaries.

That old Brené Brown boundary thing. How do you? You have to get better at saying no. You have to get better at just having boundaries. That old Brené Brown boundary thing. Baby. But yeah, I think that maybe is the answer. It's just saying yes and no a bit more mindfully and going, I don't wanna do that. I don't wanna do that. I don't, you know, things you feel obligated to say yes to

and you go, I just, maybe I'm not gonna do that. Like what? Like going out? Yeah, going out. Or work. Yeah, filling your diary up. I can remember being young. I used to have a joke where I'd say when I was young, I'd fill my diary up. And if I saw a gap in my diary, I'd plug that gap, all the voices would come because I measured

my, I hitched my worth to being busy. And now I know that's bollocks. You know, I now will make a bit more time for doing things that are not measured by monetary value or status value or things like that. Because I know it's sort of a lot of its bollocks. Now, maybe that is said from a position of privilege because I'm older now and I can afford to say no to more things. But like what? So what are the things that you, that you get value from? Gardening, reading books. You've got to make time to read books. I went over to see my mum yesterday who lives on the other side of London. Normally I drive, but it's getting

harder and harder to drive. So I get the train now, which means I can read. Do you know what I mean? Just making little decisions like that. And you go, if I get the train, I can read for a bit. Whereas if I drive drive I'll be listening to another podcast. What is it about, I find reading so hard, like what is it about just sitting down and reading a book that feels so indulgent? I know, why is that? It shouldn't feel so indulgent. And it shouldn't, it's like it's such an important thing to do, it's so good for your mind, there's something about it that just feels so outrageously luxurious to me. Yes. And that is unfortunate, isn't it? Because that must be something we can reprogram because it isn't.

And yet we'll spend an hour scrolling and we'll sort of say that that's okay. Or we'll kind of formalise that. The work it takes to overcome the voices, the disapproving voices in my head when I'm reading a book. I know but that's one voice that you can't trust and yet when you scroll on this fucker, it's a gazillion voices telling you to get, you know, VPL systems and you're like, why am I listening? And it's just constant, oh god, VPL, gut health, you know, And it's just constant. Oh God, VPL, gut health, you know, doom, horror, horror, horror. Why is that okay?

Why is that a legitimate pastime and not reading a fucking book? I don't know, Kesa. Come on, we need to fix this. I need the answers. Well, I'm gonna set up a cult where I give people the answers. Can I join your cult? Yes, 100%.

You can wear what you like. You can wear what you like. Honestly, if you had a cult, I would be the first person to design it. I'm going to set one up. I'm going to set one up. I'm going to start in my potting shed. I've got a potting shed. That's where I'd spend a perfect day. In my potting shed, reading and potting on, pricking out. That's what I do this morning. Pricking out and potting on and reading. Oh, it sounds so lovely.

It is. It is. You've got a really good life actually, because you've got your potting and your pricking out and you're chilling and reading and watching films with your kids. But you've also got your tour. And then I've got my tour, which is a really lovely thing, because it's not one of those mega tours where you're doing it every night and you don't see your kids or whatever. It's a manageable tour that I can weave into my life. And then I look forward to it and then I look forward to doing the gig. Nice, Kezza. She's got it sussed. So it's not a perfect day, it's a perfect life.

We have a bonus question which again, of course, you definitely won't have an answer for. Come on, let's do this because we're working towards that climax. Come on, let's do this. Because we're working towards that climax. I think this is an easy one. What a piece of perfection that you'd recommend this week. Well that film that I watched with my brother, I can't speak, Jess. Have you got a ball? Because I saw my brother yesterday as well. So it's Phantom Thread, is it? Yeah, I guess so. Because it's literally in a front lobe.

I can't think about things that are in a back lobe. Like you referencing something I said on Brett's podcast nearly a decade ago. That person's gone. I haven't even got any of the same body cells as whoever said that. It's weird what you do and don't remember though, isn't it? I didn't remember building a den with you on Tosmas, which is weird. So weird. Like the thing is, we're not meant to remember. I haven't got this is what my show's about, the bandwidth thing.

If it wasn't for technology, there'd be no means of knowing what I said. When people interview me and they go, oh, you said this, I'm like, did I? Well, that person's gone. That person's gone. I haven't got any of the same body cells. I mean, that person thought watching a Mike Lee film was uplifting. I don't know what she was thinking. They're all really upsetting.

Are you not that person anymore? Yeah, they are quite upsetting. They're really depressing. Yeah. So no, she's fine. But you were very passionate about it. I remember thinking. See, now I'd say let's watch a musical.

Really? What's your favorite musical? Well, the other day we were at my mom's at Easter and Calamity Jane was on the iPlayer. So I put Calamity Jane on with my niece and kids and they were like half into it. My kids like it because I did make them watch things like that when they were little.

So they've got an affection for it. But my niece started watching it and she went, this is weird. I was like, what's weird about it? It's just storage day, singing in a bar. Loved it. Okay. Well, that's a good recommendation. Clamity Jane is on the iPlayer.

She sings some classics, Secret Love, Whip Crack Away. I don't know it, but good recommendation. Jess, you'd love it. Kerry? I'm sorry that it's been so chaotic. It's been a nightmare. Yes. I'm really sorry. If you'd called me on a different day, I'd have put makeup on,

you wouldn't have seen my panty line, I would have had some Botox, I would just be a smooth vision of prepared. Smooth, tight, snatched. That's not true though, is it? I don't know if it's ever going to be true. No, and that's why this is perfect. And I think we've had a real snapshot into your life. It's been authentic. It has been authentic and that's why this is perfect. And I think we've had a real snapshot into your life. It's been authentic. It has been authentic and that's all we're striving for.

That's all I can give you. It's not a perfect day, but it's an authentic day. It's 100% authentic. We'll change the jingle. We might even change the title of the podcast just for you. Kerry Goddenman, thank you so much for coming on Authentic Day. Thank you for inviting me. There she is, there she was, that was Kerry Godleman. Yes, what a lovely episode. And the good news is we could definitely have Kerry back on and we'd have an entirely new, perfect day every time. What I'm hearing is infinite episodes of Authentic

Day with Kerry Godleyman. Isn't she a treat though? She's just a breath of fresh air. She doesn't give a shit and neither should we. So take a little bit of Kerry Godleyman into your day will you? Because sometimes I do. She is, and I didn't say this to her, but I really look up to Kerry and sometimes I think what would Kerry Godleman do? And that is a very, it's always a very refreshing answer. So think about it, think about it. And also go and see her on tour. Bandwidth, it's on at the moment. You can get tickets if you hurry. Lancaster, looking at you. As always, Perfect Dayers, send me an email. I do like reading them. Everydayofperfectday at gmail.com. And if you had a cult, what would it be?

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