Perfect Day with Jessica Knappett - EP 48: Rick Edwards

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

Rick Edwards joins Jess this week to tell her all about his perfect day. The duo talk about his love of omelettes, Harvey Weinstein, the best animals, the joy of cancelled events, the logistics of sexy time and there’s a devastating revelation about Tim Key’s barbecue set up. Like and subscribe for brand-new episodes every Thursday.Follow us on Instagram @perfectdaycast. And, why not get in touch? Email us at [e-mail] A 'Keep It Light Media' ProductionSales enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Learn more at PCExpress.ca Music Alright then. Music Hello and welcome to Perfect Day. I'm Jessica Knappett. This week we are joined by the brilliantly funny, clever, interesting, sporty Rick Edwards. We know him from T4, don't we? Do you know what T4 is? If you don't know what T4 is, it's a cultural phenomenon. Look it up. Now he's on Radio 5 Live. And now we also know all about his perfect day, don't we? I tell you what, it's nice to have a guest on who takes the format seriously for once. Rick has a well-planned jam-packed day of activities, so thank you Rick Edwards for respecting the podcast, giving it the respect it rightly deserves. Rick and I talk about his love of eggs. We talk about whether adults should visit the zoo

and the logistics of sexy time. We get straight into that actually. We talk about a lot of things. What I like about this episode is it adheres to the format and it's tangential. So, shall we just get on with it, sit, isn't it, Rick? Yeah, yeah. It feels fantastic.

You're usually the broadcast journalist doing the interview. Is that how you're billing yourself on this show? Yes. Have you listened back to the show at all? How dare you? Wow. Just straight in with a burn. No, no, that's not a burn.

Oh. It's a much more informal, relaxed, pleasant listen. Oh, OK, fine's not a burn. Oh, it's a much more informal relaxed Pleasant listen. Oh, okay fine. If you were a broadcast journalist, oh, right. No, no, no, but it is there Certainly there was a compliment in there. So was yeah There is certainly interrogative Yes qualities, yeah to this words, qualities to this podcast. You'll notice it's very rare that Laura

Coonsberg, for example, in the middle of a statement asks whether somebody has a word or not. She, she, they just edit it out. And she's, she's poorer for it. They, they edit it out. It's humanising. There are things that she's not sure about. There are words that she's seen written down

and she's not sure if that's how you pronounce them. But she just, she just bowls straight ahead. I think confidence is key. Like you look at a word like stent and you think stent. Stent. There's only one way you can pronounce stent. No, no, but I look at a word like stent. Mad. Because I'm on air. An absolutely mad start. I think, well, I've never said that out loud. Yeah. It must be said stent, but then I panic and think, but

it might just be one of those words. Stent! Okay, so what's the alternative pronunciation? Look, okay, I accept it's a bad example. It's a bad example. Do you think that maybe the N is silent? Stent. Or the S. Or the T's? Sen. Sen. Yeah, my heart's actually much better since I had the sen put in. Why is...

Stent was a terrible example. Why is sen on your mind, Rick? I think it must just have been recently, we had to say, I had to say sen for the first time. Oh, okay. And so actually I thought it was just have been recently we had to say I had to say stent for the first time. Oh, okay. And so actually I thought it was a good example, but then as soon as you started doing your famous interrogation or as it wasn't, because no, you're right, there's not many other options. But there are plenty of words where it is reasonable. Names of places.

Oh yeah. I mean, do you, how do you handle handle that Rick Edwards famously? Just in case you don't know, but you should Presenter of Because we also say broadcast journalist presenter of BBC Radio 5 lives breakfast show. Yes a news based show News and sport. Obviously sport but I just don't know about that. I can't see it. No. Oh really? Okay. I can't. It's sort of like it doesn't really exist. That's so for me it's just a news show because as soon as genuinely as soon as they start talking about sports I shut down. Yeah. I shut down completely. So I'm

looking forward to finding some common ground. Yeah, this is going to be great. When you're hosting the BBC Breakfast News show on BBC Radio 5 Live and Sport, are there words that you don't know how to pronounce? And do you have to rehearse them beforehand? Because it's live. No, what you do is you look ahead as you're reading a paragraph, you see one coming and you you panic and you think I should have looked ahead at this before. How do I pronounce stent?

Yeah, and if you... I wish I'd never bought a stent. Genuinely, I wish I'd never said stent. Ever. Anyway, you think I should have looked in advance of this, but I haven't, and that's a problem. So I'm just gonna have to plough, plough through. And sometimes- Ploughed through. Yeah.

It's ploughed. It's actually a silent L, it's pow. In fact, here we go. Here's a better one. And this is just awful because I should have known it because I definitely have said it before and it's quite famous in a way. But I just panicked. And this is not funny by any means, but we're talking about the search for Madeleine McCann's remains in near.

I've just told you it's not funny. So let's have a look at your face. What's your face doing? No, I just didn't think we would... I just didn't think on the podcast Perfect Day. It sort of gives me an idea for a show called Imperfect Day. Yes. Go on, tell us your... I've got a great idea for first guests. No, go on, tell us your Madeleine McCann story. Madeleine McCann story per se. It's a, I had to say where the search was taking place near where she went missing. Prior to Luz. I'm so glad you said that because you look at it written down, it's prior to and then you look at L-U-Z and you think Luz. I know how to pronounce that because I'm, what is it, it's not lutz is it? No well this is the thing I just said prior to

loose and then immediately in my ear I just get it's luge. Luge? Yeah. Ah you luge. Yeah I did feel like a bit of a luge. No they didn't because contextually it would be. No that's right. A bit off key. Yeah so you don't and there's no way of rectifying it. Well, you just, next time you have to say it in the next news bulletin, then you just get it right and hope no one is too upset. I got a horrible email from a listener recently because I'd pronounced one of our guests' names wrong and I would like to take this opportunity to publicly apologise to David O'Dowdity. No. No. wrong and I would like to take this opportunity to publicly apologise to David O Doherty.

No! No! But you're, hang on, you're friends with David. I'm friends with David. Right? It's David O Doherty, isn't it? I think, stick to your guns here. I mean, I think probably I should have asked him. I normally call him Dave, I don't often call him by his full name. Do you know what I do? I actually use it, I think I don't know and stupidly have never asked or paid attention, a bit like sport. And so I just use O'dockety and O'Doherty interchangeably. And I am sorry about that, actually. It's very rude especially when you introduce someone to not know how to pronounce their name yeah Edwards it's like stent really no options oh great I don't think it's Odo I

mean I'm now slightly losing confidence in that but I can't wait to get another horrible email but it was really. It put me in a really bad mood for the rest of the day. So I hope you're happy with yourself. Respect, obviously. Shouldn't you not be filtering some of these emails? Why aren't you getting these emails? That should be straight to her. Well, Lucy is back. Welcome back Lucy from maternity leave.

Hi Lucy, congratulations. And actually, you know, I did have a, I set up a system where I was receiving the emails while we were in the changeover period. But the filter's back in now. So you've got the normal emails. Okay, fine. Yeah, I think we will put the filter back in actually.

Thanks for, yes. Let's put that on the to-do list actually, Lucy. Thanks, Rick. No problem at all. Just want to make sure you're running a tight ship. So tight-ish ship. How are you? Presumably been up since... 3.45am? 3.45 tightest ship. How are you? Presumably been up since 3.45am. Outrageous.

Yeah. Is that because what time are you actually on there? Best part of the day. I mean it's not that. Horrendous. Because it's not, it turns out it's not the best part of the day. It's maybe the worst part of the day. I think it's the part of the night. It's the night. It's part of the night. It's the night. And so your body, none of you, none of you likes it. No. Mind, body, nothing. But you've got to be on air at what time?

6 a.m. 6 a.m.? Yeah. So why do you have to get there so early? Do you like to just sit down and have a coffee? It's a question that I've, yeah, I know, it's out of choice. Yeah, everyone else gets in at five to six. I get in at half four. It's the parking space thing. Yeah.

I know. So this is something I've realized very much after taking the job that you can't just turn up. Like if you're doing a music radio show, a normal radio show, you basically can just sort of roll up for five minutes before. I did an XFM show and it was very straightforward and you got loads of time to sort of think about things because you're playing loads of songs. Don't have any of that and you have to get across the news and sort of prep for interviews and you can't really, you do need that time and like look at the papers and things.

And you have to do that in the morning because that's when it's just happened. That's exactly right. That's the thing, isn't it? That's exactly right, the penny drops. It sounds terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it is. There's no getting away from it,

like it is literally terrible. I really like doing the show, thank God. Right. Because if I didn't have that, then you've got to question my choices even more. Yeah, I think so. Everything that surrounds the show is disgrace. Right.

Well, so I'm gonna- Well, thanks very much for having me. Thanks for being here. I'm gonna assume- So any, yeah, I'll tell you right now. I'm gonna assume that the perfect day- I'm not working on my perfect day. Is not a work day for Rick here. I'm going to assume... Yeah, I'll tell you right now. I'm not working on my perfect day. It's not a work day for Rick Edwards. Oh, and by the way, so you were going to tell me a story about Harvey Weinstein.

Oh, I can do that. Do you want to do that? Do you want me to? Where did it come from? Why were you about to launch into a Harvey Weinstein story? Well, I can tell you exactly why. So you are wearing a vivid green shirt. Oh yes, that's right. And I said I was a Photoshop disaster waiting to happen. Yes, and many years ago, I was doing an interview, well I was supposed to be doing an interview

with Harvey Weinstein for a film. T4, was he on T4? He was, incredibly, you joke, yes. Oh my God. Yes he was, yes. No he wasn't. So junk interview for the Wachowski brothers, as they were then. Their follow-up to The Matrix, which was called Speed Racer, and it wasn't very good.

But it was all sort of live action, but then there was a lot of sort of CGI, it was sort of like they were in an animated world. It was quite, it was peculiar. It was sort of like they were in an animated world. It was quite, it was peculiar. And so the backdrop in our junket room was sort of a moving kind of screen and they were gonna do some stuff with green screen. So all we said to the people who were coming in is,

obviously you can't wear any green. And we're in the, let's say, Claridge is it, something like that. And Harvey Weinstein is staying there. He is still somehow 45 minutes late for our interview. That's sort of fairly standard. He comes in, he is a big man and he's wearing one of those sort of huge short sleeve shirt sort of tents that only big American men wear really and it is crucially green. He sits down and my producer says, now because we're going to use the, no because we've got the green screen stuff in the in the

background that won't really work. And he sort of said could you possibly go and change the shirt? And Harvey Weinstein did not like that very much, sort of grunted and then shambled off, went back up to his room, again took, I would say 20 minutes, came back down, wearing a different, but also green, massive short sleeve shirt. No. No. And we all just went, yeah, that's fine. but also green, massive short sleeve shirt.

And we all just went, yeah, that's fine. And so we did the interview and played a very small bit of it out, I think. And it did just mean he had sort of cars zooming across his torso. Incredible. So that serves him right. I'll teach him. Yeah. So it's not when I say I've got a Harvey Weinstein story, it's not quite the story that people are expecting. No, I don't think anyone wants to.

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1.74% and save up to $4,000. Conditions apply. Visit your GTA Volvo retailer or go to volvocars.ca for full details. Thanks for that story about Harvey Weinstein. And it really, um, it was nice to have a little T4 story as well. I mean, astonishing really that you presented T4, isn't it? Um, it was such, it was I mean, just an amazing, I'm going to need you to explain what you mean by that. I mean, I mean, just an amazing... I'm gonna need you to explain what you mean by that. Sorry, I mean that it was a massive show. Yes. It was such a huge part of all of our hungover lives. Yeah. You are so famous from that.

And it was such a big, it was just such a huge deal. I think what I'm saying is I'm a bit starstruck. And you were part of this scene. Yeah. You're Jamila's, you're Amstel. Look at you all. Yeah, yeah. You don't like talking about it. Why not? No, I don't mind talking about it. It doesn't actually come up very much.

Really? Not particularly. I wonder if it's because of my generation. Maybe, yeah. Yeah. And it was, yeah, it feels very- It's just the height of Cool, wasn't it? It was such a, it was just like the coolest show on television really, I think.

I think, maybe. Obviously I didn't watch it, because that would have been really peculiar. I suppose, I think, I don't think I was really the epitome of, cool, I think Alexa in her own way and Makita in her way and then, I'm not sure, I guess, yeah, I guess it had a slightly different attitude to other similar shows. And it was, even though technically it was probably for teenagers, it was a lot of hungover 20 somethings really who were watching it. And we probably at times definitely

were also hungover doing it. So it kind of felt quite like sometimes. Is that sort of, it's got a name now which it won't have had then, Indie Sleaze. Are you familiar with that? Really, it's more of an aesthetic. And is that sort of looking a bit like you've just woken up in clothes that you were in the night before?

It's just that sort of, yeah, but it's specific to that Pete Doherty, Libertines, Amy Winehouse, Arctic Monkeys, era. And I remember at the time thinking, we don't have a, this isn't a thing. We don't have a scene or an aesthetic or a, like we'd, like you would look back on the 70s, on the 60s and the 70s and 80s and be like, this is crystal clear.

And when you were in the noughties and the seventies and eighties and be like, this is crystal clear. Yeah. Yeah. And when you were in the noughties and the, and the, and the tens, the tens, I remember being, do we call it the tens? I don't know what we call it. I remember being like, this isn't, what are we? This isn't even a thing. And now I look back and I'm like, oh, it was bloody Rick Edwards. Yeah. In his, in his skinny jeans that didn't really suit a man of his proportions. jeans that didn't really suit a man of his proportions. The death of the skinny jean. Oh, I'm so happy. I'm so happy. But I mean, goodness me, the skinny jeans I was ripping off men back in the day. It was always a nightmare because they wouldn't come off. No, it's a real... And I used to say, actually, you're just going to have to take those off yourself.

Yeah. Can you do it? Or just just actually, I don't even want to watch you do it. Ideally, take yourself to the toilet. Actually, just undressing is just awful, actually. I think it's the worst bit. It's so awkward. The thing about it is as well, that's that when you're growing up, you're sort of led to believe from TV shows that it's the sexiest bit.

And so you go in with incredibly high expectations and it is never, ever, anything like that. No, because nobody knows how, really. Men don't know how to undo bras no no it's a it's a horrible fumble I think the best thing to do genuinely and this is a great tip from me guys undress yourselves in front of each other just go three two one it's coming off so my I don't know if it is vaguely indiscreet, but I think it's probably fine. That is the exact policy that Eva has. That's the home policy.

That's the domestic policy. She says, right, let's take all our clothes off. Just take all our clothes off. There's no fuss. You're just done. And then enjoy yourself. I like practical things like that in a marriage actually. A friend of mine has a rule.

Let's not piss about it. Let's not piss about it. We will get onto your perfect day eventually. But a friend of mine has a rule that when she's going on a romantic weekend away, and I think this is fantastic because the pressure is on, it's like New Year's Eve, isn't it? What a way to guarantee you have a terrible time. Just, you. Just moving the marital argument to another location. But she says, you get to your romantic destination, you get it out of the way immediately. You get to the hotel room, no matter what time it is, whether it's, well, it'll be after two or 3 p.m., won't it?

Because of the way the hotels are. Yeah, unless you've organized it somehow, but that's very difficult, yeah. We're called ahead and said, any chance we can get in a bit early. I hate that. But after the... I really, by the way, I despise that about hotels.

This is, I think, embarrassing, but true. Within my small friendship group, when we used to sort of go away as like boys go away and we stay in hotels, I would describe myself as the specialist. And what that, the only thing that referred to was I was very good at exceeding the checkout time. How did you do that? That is pushless. Just, I want to say brass neck, but what does that mean?

Anyway, so they knock on the door and say, it's like quarter past 11, you're supposed to be at 11, and they say, how long are you gonna be? And you say, five minutes? And then they go away, and then they come back 20 minutes later, and they're like, sorry, are you going to be? And you say, five minutes. And then they go away. And then they come back 20 minutes later and they're like, sorry, are you, are you, I go, yeah, yeah, a couple of minutes. And I just keep doing it. And I just be very, very, I just really okay with it.

But everyone else is not okay with it. So yeah, I was the specialist. Right. So what I thought your specialism was, was negotiating for the time, but actually it's just exceeding the checkout time without permission. Yes, and not losing confidence in that. So I think what comes with that is no fear that you might be charged for an extra night. I can't see that happening.

No, it never happened. It's never happened. No. That would be such a, what a horrible move that would be from the hotel. It doesn't. It's never happened. No. That would be such a, oh what a horrible move that would be from the hotel. It doesn't make any difference to them. The next people won't arrive until three. I can just imagine you saying to the receptionist, if they've told you that unfortunately we are going to have to charge you for another night, just oh what a horrible move. What a horrible move from you. I hope you're proud of yourselves. Are you comfortable exceeding the wait time in other situations?

I guess in reverse, I used to enjoy it not anymore because it's not really an option with a child, but getting on a plane very, very late. Oh no. Yeah. If I hear my name called, I'm like wonderful. It's time to get on the plane. Yeah, wonderful stuff. You're joking. I am not joking. What a horrible, horrible move. Horrible move. That's a horrible move. That's a horrible move on the passengers part. Well, it doesn't actually make any difference to anyone. Like someone is going to be the

last on the plane. It does make a difference. Oh, here we go. Go on. I'm afraid it does make a difference because if you are getting on a plane that requires a bus journey to the to the aeroplane, you have you have caused a delay there. You've caused a delay. Have I? On the runway. We might not... I don't think we know that.

I think that it's quite possible that if they're calling your name and you're still not on the plane, you could be causing a delay. And then we're not pushing back until we've got a flight position. I'm so glad you're across the lingo. Anyway, well, I just look, I don't do it anymore if that helps. That does make me feel better. But this is a very, this is much more relaxed than I was expecting from a BBC news.

And sport. Reporter. Yeah. News reporter. So. But we have met before. You sort of. We have met.

Yeah, we haven't talked about that. Well, because I wanted to get on with your perfect day, but should we talk about that now? The perfect, yeah. Is that how you always. Yeah. Is it, in fairness, by Is that how you always? Yeah. Inferno.

By the way, I love the podcast. Thank you. As I've said to you before. But I like it because it's quite a good, by hook or by crook, a lot of my friends have been on it. Yes, they have. Sometimes friends who I haven't seen for a while, it's just nice we're catching up with them.

It's a great way to catch up. It's really nice. David O'Doherty, Dogherty, whatever his name is. Our great friend. That was a nice one. Nick Mahabed, not seen Nick for a while. Really nice. And you also got a mention.

Do you know that? You got a mention on someone's perfect day. Have you been listening? Oh, hang on. Well, Key, just Key just mugged me up. But Key, like in fairness, every time I have any opportunity to mug Key off publicly, I would do it. And I think it's the same. Same thing. I don't think he mugged you.

Well, he's teasing me. He's he is teasing me. About? I can't even I think he was saying I was a bad chef or something. Not at all. Well, my memory is that his perfect morning was you making bacon sandwiches in the kitchen. So I'm wondering if your perfect morning is going to be making bacon sandwiches with Tim Key. It's disappointing for him it isn't, so I don't know. Should we, I'm eager to hear. Should we get going?

Perfect morning. What's your perfect morning please? There's a few parts here that just set the day up I think. The first is it turns out on this day my phone is broken. It's two years ago I was on holiday and it was the first time my son had gone in the sea and I was so excited that I rushed in with him and then as I got out, realised that my phone was in my pocket the whole time. Oh my god. And so therefore the phone was blown for the rest of the holiday and there was an initial sort of panic of oh no and then it was brilliant.

Euphoria. What a holiday. Oh my god. Just and it was not like it was sort of half, it was completely, it was fucked. And it was a great, it's a great lesson to me about the joy that that extracts from me. So my phone is broken for the day. That's really great, actually. I would love to do that. I mean, it's obviously a very stupid thing to have done.

Yes. You know, you can go to Cambridge, can't you? But you can still forget that your phone's in the pocket and go and see. Absolutely, absolutely. So, but I hear you. Thank you. I see you, I honor you.

There's no phone for the day. That also feeds into something that I have noticed about myself that has developed only very recently, which is professional jealousy. I've been very lucky, I think, in having- Everyone's been jealous of you. No, not really. And in the last few months, literally,

it's just started to, started to sort of cheer up at me. Really? And it's quite unpleasant. Ooh, let's talk about it because it's so interesting. And the phone doesn't, the phone doesn't help with that. But it's kind of, I'd suppose it's a window

into other people's lives. Yeah. And maybe we didn't have it in quite the same way. And now you can just sort of see someone's house and think, what? And then think, hang on, I've been working. I know this person is more successful than me, but I've been working for longer. And what have I done wrong here? And I've just started that has started to just really grow in me, not in a good way. And so I can't be having any of that on my perfect day really grow in me, not in a good way.

And so I can't, I can't be having any of that on my perfect day. No, of course not. I don't really think about other people having a more perfect day. What are you jealous of in other people? I think, um, I sort of what looks like a very nice, comfortable life, even though I know I probably have got a nice, comfortable life, but then I look at people having nicer, it's Instagram. I know I probably have quite a nice comfortable life but then I look at people having nicer it's Instagram I know it's Instagram so but what are we talking about just big houses it so there's a

little bit of there's a little bit of houses there's a little bit of how are you on holiday again but that's partly related to the fact that I've gone from being completely freelance to now like having a job that means I have, I have an allocated amount of holiday. So I can't, I don't think it suits you this job. No, I think that might be. No, we've we're all thinking it. Some of the listeners not only think it, they'll they'll message us and say that. Yeah. I think for different reasons, but so I'd like to, yeah, I'd like to just sort of quell that completely. We're eliminating all of the jealousy.

So that's gone. And then what else is happening? That is gone. Yeah. Let me consult my notes. We're in a hotel bed, massive, nice hotel bed, but it's at home. So we're in our house and I'm waking up with Ema. And then this is the sort of first real stretch is that our son has slept for sort of 14 hours straight and comes in

and I would, I love this guy. I love it when he comes in and snuggles, but he's coming in at like nine. He comes in, snuggles for a bit. Then, I mean, he's two and a half, so this is a massive stretch, but he offers to go and make us some coffees. So he goes downstairs. He makes some delicious coffees. He brings them back up.

And that is how the morning commences. Wonderful. It's very nice. Very unrealistic. Very unrealistic, and it's very, very far removed from what my mornings were actually like. But it's good that we're at home because we don't need, the specialist doesn't need to come into play here. We are in a hotel room. No, and I feel like maybe I've retired the specialist. I've retired the specialist but

I've bought in jealousy. Yes. So it's progress of sorts. Wonderful. So you're having coffees brought in by a two and a half year old. That's right and he's made them exquisitely actually. He really has. He's done a great job. He's not quite at the point where he's done the little whatever that motif is.

He's two and a half so give him a break. So what are we talking? Cortado? What's... No, I think we're just talking flat whites. Flat whites. A couple of flat whites made by a two and a half year old. And what's next on the agenda? Then again, it's going to feel like I'm just sort of taking quite a lot of parts of a hotel into my house. But my absolute favorite sort of breakfast scenario,

like when you go to a hotel and you go down to breakfast and you realize there's an omelette station. I, look, I'm not exaggerating to say that will make my holiday. I realize there's an omelette station, I'm like, this say that will make my holiday. I realized an omelette station I'm like this is going to be this is going to be a great week. Why? I don't I can't I can't explain it. Do you just love do you just think they're delicious? I think omelets are delicious. I love the fact that they've got their little bowls with all the little bits in. Yeah and I

will always say all of it. All the bits. They'll'll always sort of qualify when I go, so hang on, you want chorizo and ham and sausage meat. And I'm like, yeah, put all of the bits in. And then so I have all the bits. In some ways, yeah, I don't think I'm confident in the difference in a frittata and an omelette. Oh, I am. It's when there's more bits. So there's an omelette station and there's a little guy and he's got his little hat on, he's wearing the full stuff. Chef's fine I think, you could probably say chef or cook rather than little guy. No, sorry to be clear, I need him to be small. Not like, just sort of, I don't know, 5'7", something like that. Oh yeah, tiny by Rick Edwards standards. No, but that's under average height for a man. Is it? Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think now.

I'm meant like 5'10", aren't I? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a little guy. A little guy. In his little outfit. Tiny little 5'7 guy. Yes. In his little outfit, making you an omelette to order. And all the bits. And then my days basically. That's that. That's really good. That's made. Yes. So it's just omelettes all morning. It's probably realistically I will always have more than one breakfast in a really good day. I'll have a couple of breakfasts.

So it may be that I don't have a second omelet, but it's nice to have the option, but I will have another plate of things. On a normal day, how are you managing the breakfast situation at 3.30 a.m.? I mean, what do you do? It's a shit show. That is a shit show.

Yeah. I've realised I can't really eat before or during the show because otherwise I definitely have two breakfasts because when I finish the show I'm like, well I need to reward myself for getting through this with another breakfast. So now I go all the way through. So I don't really have breakfast until sort of 9.30. And you've been up since 3.45. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I'm just mainlining sort of alternate. I've got into a pattern. I just alternate black coffee and tea. It's not. This doesn't sound.

This is not part of my perfect day. No, no, no. Well, there's no wonder you're fantasizing about an omelette station. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine I'm there making horrible instant coffee in a BBC kitchen at four AM from, yeah, I know. I mean the sadness in your eyes. Are you serious?

The BBC give you instant coffee granules be more serious. Instant coffee granules. Loads of them. A talent like you. As many as I want. That's outrageous. People bring in their, what's the flat, Aero presses. People do all that. I can't be doing it. Bring them in.

I'm not, you know. Where's, I suppose perhaps not open, is it? No, nothing's open. Oh my God. Nothing is open. There's a... They could get you a little Nespresso though, couldn't they? I think it would be a... it's the kind of thing where if the Daily Mail find out that the BBC are buying their presenters Nespresso machines,

they are definitely writing up as a reason that the licence fee should be abolished. But it does mean that I'm drinking awful coffee. Oh, that's horrible. I'm sorry to hear that. Awful coffee and then a tea that is fine. And then back to the awful coffee and so on. So, back to you perfect morning, which really is just, it's an improvement if you're just having nice coffee made

by a two and a half year old. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand that now. Yeah, yeah. Where do we go after the omelet? Are we doing anything? So we are going to a somewhere that has a nice hot tub. I mean again it does feel like I'm in a hotel doesn't it but I don't really I don't particularly

want to be away from my perfect day so somehow there is a nice hot tub outdoor. Or maybe if you worked a bit harder. Well exactly. You had the life of one of these friends of yours on Instagram. Yeah not not necessarily. Not so much friends, actually. Friends I'm okay with. It's more people that I'm sort of aware of slash friendly with. Right. Those are the real, those are the problems.

Okay. Anyway. People you went to Cambridge with. No, not them, actually. Not them. No, there aren't gonna be, in fact, I can think of someone who might have a facility that would allow me to do it it and that is maddening. So an outdoor hot tub, my son also enjoys a hot tub so he can be in there and then he'll also like a little swim so there's a small swimming pool.

That's just a great way to start the day and And then actually, we are going to dry somehow all of the slightly boring bits about taking his weird swimming nappies. All of that is being somehow someone, I don't know if the little chef can do it, but someone's doing that and neither me or Emma are doing that. So he's now dressed. We're all dressed. Everyone's good to go. And we are going to go to the zoo. Oh, yes!

Because the zoo's brilliant, but this is the perfect iteration of the zoo visit. So it's clinical. We are there for an hour, maybe 90 minutes. Okay, yeah. And it's none of this getting to an hour, maybe 90 minutes. And it's none of this getting to an enclosure, where the fuck is it? Like, is it, oh, it's in, it's a bit cold, it's in, it's out.

They are all front and center. You immediately see them. They're playing. They know you're coming. They've been, yeah. It's like a welcome committee at every, and you tick off all the big animals. Maybe you have free rain, free Rome.

Maybe it's a private, is it even a private? It doesn't, it doesn't need to be private actually, because I quite, if you imagine that as we're going around, people realise that we are getting very lucky with all the animals, and we sort of become like Pied Pipers. So we've got a massive group who are all like, travelling around together and having this fantastic time at the zoo because of you because of because of us and our sort of magnetic appeal to the animals um so we see all of the things all of well my favorites

Hema's not too fussed to be honest um and then and then also our son's favorites i think this is mainly for your benefit though isn't it it? It sounds like you're the zoo lover in the family. Well, yeah, remind me, is this my perfect day? Or is this... Because I don't think that's a problem. It's just that it's quite... They are enjoying themselves. Respectfully, it's quite a childish pursuit,

isn't it, going to the zoo? Like you would get... When you've got a child... Excuse me? But in what way? But you'll go... Adults go to the zoo? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't think they do? I don't know. Do you think adults go to zoos without their children? I guess they must do, but to me it feels like... I mean my parents definitely do, but then I guess you get to a sort of an age where maybe that's just...

Something to do. ...you just fill in the time. Are we talking London Zoo? I think we probably are. Yes, I'm curious. It's fascinating to me that you would choose a zoo as an adult. Well, I'm losing confidence. You're making me lose confidence in my zoo idea. But, what's your favourite animal? Do you love animals? I do love animals, but then I think that has been stoked by the fact that my son also really

likes animals. And so now it feels like a thing that we can. So actually the last time we went, it was just the two of us and we had a lovely time. That's very sweet. Yeah. Yeah. What's your favourite animal, Rick? time. That's very sweet. Yeah. Yeah. What's your favourite animal, Rick? You have to pick one now. One. Well, I guess it always used to be giraffe and so I suppose I'll stick with that. If you're looking for something that is completely insane, the giraffe is up there. It's up there. It's literally up there. It is up there. Eating leaves.

It's up there. It's literally up there. It is up there. Eating leaves. With its massive eyelashes. Yeah, pretty. So pretty. Flirty. Fit? I think fit. I would say fit. Draft quite fit? I think so. Yeah. Yeah, a few of those kind of, I don't know, I mean a draft can't be that related to a deer, but you know some of those deers that have the eyelashes, there are some pretty ones out there. Yeah,, yeah. So let's get to lunchtime. Yeah. Okay. So we are going to St Albans. I love St Albans.

I don't know if you will love this particular bit. We're going to the cathedral. No, we're going to my friend Lenny's mum and dad's house where every year for the last 25 years, I want to say maybe longer. He has had a birthday barbecue and they have a garden that allows you to also play five-a-side football with like full-size goals. Whoa. And it is, it's just, it's a glorious day. That is a glorious day. And it's such a sort of, an iconic part of all of our years. And this is every year still? Yeah, it's such a sort of an iconic part of all of our years. And this is every year still? Yeah, it's still going.

When did it, how old were you when it started? So, well, when I met him, he was, I guess I was like 21. Yeah. Yeah. That's so great. And you do it every year? Every year. What time of year do you do it?

It's his birthday, so it's always the same time. On the, what's it called? The summer solstice? Summer solstice! Summer solstice! Come on! Hang on! Yeah, 21st of June.

Is this featured in someone else's day? This is in Joe Thomas's day. Is it? Is Joe Thomas there? Yeah. That's a big hit. Also because you've listened to that episode. Yeah, but I did listen to that episode. It's an incredible episode. Oh my god. I had completely forgotten that, but also I don't think I could have not put this in. Yeah, yeah. It's quite significant for me because I really like,

you've got to think about what you're eating, haven't you? The barbecue... I can just... You just picture it immediately. Thanos, our friend, has made a massive Greek salad. We're having that with burgers and sausages. There's a big, a huge bin with ice in and loads of drinks in there. You're just fishing around seeing what comes out. It's a lovely, it's a lovely day. Does everyone stay there or is everyone sort of in London?

Not anymore. You can just kind of commute. Yeah now it's much more so people are driving home and now there's kids there now as well. Right. Back in the day it was more of a... Everyone stay over. Yeah yeah yeah yeah and it would get... I mean it still can get quite lively. I don't I don't want to talk you through the rules of fiverr cider but that's suffice to say. You can if you want. Well it's really simple you're playing fiverr cider, there's a load of cider on the side of the pitch. Lads. You are paired, I know it's so laddy, I'm so sorry. I know I like it a lot. You are paired with someone on the opposite team. If they score, you have

to go and drink half of your cider. If they score a header, you have to drink the whole of your cider. If you get paired with Lenny, you are absolutely fucked because he's too good at football. This is great. It's a really good name as well. So we've had a beautiful barbecue at Lenny's. We've had a great barbecue. Yeah. So what else happens on your perfect afternoon? Well, there's a bit of, I think there is probably a bit of football on the, on the telly and we're just sort of cooling down and watching.

It's maybe the FA Cup final. Probably no. I know, I know. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I know you just said something. Yeah. It's well, I will carry on. It's still my perfect day. It's probably yes. FA Cup final. My team is not playing. No one's team is playing. So we're all just enjoying it for because it's the FA Cup final. Right. That's a nice thing to do. And I'm definitely going to watch some sport at some point in my day and probably can't be bothered to go

to any. No. I've already traveled to the zoo in St. Auburn. So no, you've done quite a lot today, actually. So you deserve to just have a little sit down and watch the telly. Yeah, thank you. It's surprising how few people sit down and watch the telly on this show. I think it's a nice thing to do. It is. And your team is? Well, my team is Liverpool. I knew you weren't going to guess Liverpool. Oh, well, you can probably do something neat with the editing. Go on, have a guess of my team.

Liverpool. Amazing. So, yeah, but they're not playing, I don't think, because that's a bit more stressful. No, no, no, no, no, I don't think, because that's a bit more stressful. No, you don't want, no. I don't really need that. Here's, now I've just glanced at my notes and there's three things here that I think are quite important to mention. No, four things, sorry.

I'll try and rattle through them. No. Off the back of the barbecue, I'd sort of basically, I don't know if you'll like this or not, but I need to say thank you. The smoker that you bought, Tim Key, is in my garden and I used it for the first time the other day. So thank you for that.

Oh my God. So. Oh. Yes. My God, okay. It's a slight bombshell. It is a bit of a bombshell. But genuinely, thank you. How long have you had it? Got it in, I'd say, two months ago. It's been hanging over as something that I might take

for years. Right. So, I don't know if you've, have you been to Tim's flat? Nope. Okay, so it has been sat in the hallway. What I do is I send large items to Tim's house, but I don't go to his house. Yeah, well this is probably the largest one I would say.

It's massive. And it just sat, boxed, never opened, in his hallway, in a sort of foyer, if you like. And it was just like a makeshift table. Four years and years and years. And every now and again, he'd just be like, can you, do you wanna, do you wanna, because he has a thing where,

his roof toast where he has his barbecue, he doesn't wanna take more stuff out there because I once put my foot through it. He thinks that structurally it might be a problem. Daniel Kitsch can put my foot through it. He thinks that structurally it might be a problem. I did check with Alex Horne if he had outdoor space to accommodate. Yes he does but but it's not enough. It's not perfect. And do you know that you know so you know the reason why he's got that smoker do you? Well you've got it now obviously anyway. I've now got it and I made some what you'd have to describe as chicken built on. Oh well done. Not really it was horrible it was so dry because I didn't I don't know how to use a

smoker. No I mean it and it's a it's a completely unnecessary and quite difficult catering item, can we say, that really should only be owned by professional chefs, I think. Yeah, I think so. And Tim is not the only person I've bought a smoker for. Who is? And am I going to have two smokers? And the other person that I bought a smoker for immediately gave it away to someone else too.

Wow. This is not the only record. This is the second conversation I've had with someone who said, thanks for the smoker that you gave the other person. Someone else. Yeah. I now own it. Um, that's, that's so funny. Why were we talking about that? Oh, just cause of the barbecue. And I thought, Oh, I wanted to mention this to you., great, great. You might enjoy it. Now after the barbecue and the football and then watching a bit of football, I'm obviously concerned that I will have stiffened up horribly. So I'm going to have a massage. You've stiffened up? Yeah. Oh right, because you've been what? Because you've been playing football and then you sat down and then and then and I haven't stretched because it's not that sort of time. Okay. And so then I think I'm gonna get a massage. A sports massage.

Yeah but more of like a like a nice one because sports ones are a bit too painful. So sort of like a light relaxing one. Like when they say what sort of pressure. You don't say light. I don't say light. I don't make that face. I say medium but if they push me on that I say medium too light. Really? Yeah I think so because I know a lot of people really like get in there. No I don't need to be hurt anymore. No I don't. I've been hurt enough. No, I don't need to be hurt anymore. No, I don't. I've been hurt enough. So yeah, just a really, like a nice massage. Okay, yeah. Lovely. And are they, is it a mobile masseuse? I think it probably is. I think we're getting them up to St. Albans, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Lennie's made a space for them. Yeah, he's made a space in a room. And surprisingly, it's the little chef. Oh, wow. the little chef. Oh, wow. He's on the station. He's back. What a multitasker. He's doing the massage. Fantastic.

So that's nice. And I can still smell the egg on him. So that's good. So this is actually a very nice afternoon. This is a lovely afternoon. Yeah. I might have a little nap, but it not a realistic nap in that whenever I have a nap I wake up incredibly flustered and with a really red and hot face. Do you do you have a daily nap? No sometimes I'll sometimes I sort of feel like I have to because I'm so tired but then because I have to go to bed stupidly early. What time do you go to bed? 8.30. Oh, not that bad.

It's not that good though, is it? 8.30, I'm 46. I'm going to bed at 8.30. Well, I sometimes go to bed at nine. Yeah, but that's like a really nice choice to make, that I just have an early night. That's lovely. Not prescribed, you have to do this,

otherwise the next day is a disaster. You've got to stop doing this job, by the way. Yeah, yeah. So I've had, so okay, so I've had a massage off the Little Chef and I've had a nap. And oh, the mass, you know, you may enjoy this, you may not. And I've never sort of told this as an anecdote to anyone,

but within our friendship groups, it's a real classic. So I thought I'd try it on you. So when Tom Basden, who you wouldn't, I don't know if you, are you friends with Tom? No, I'm not friends with him, but I know, yeah, yeah, of course. So he's within the sort of the circle. He's in the circle. He's on five sides at St. Albans.

Oh, he's out, yeah. Or is he? Just a bit, yeah. Oh, yeah. He lived in Beijing with his now wife for like a year where they were learning Mandarin. It was barmy actually, but they had a nice time. And me and Lenny of St. Aubens Garden fame

went out to visit them and they got really into going to sort of Chinese spas, a bit like Japanese onsens, but sort of bigger and a bit weirder, but quite fun. So we would go to one called Golden Sunshine when me and Lenny went out to visit them. And on one occasion, we all got a massage and we're all three of us in the same room on our beds,

which already is quite a funny. It's really funny. So you're sort of- It's really funny. I think it's safe to say that you are ready. You are ready to laugh. Yeah. In that situation. But you're also trying to enjoy your massage. And I annoyingly, no one can quite remember who said this. But someone as there are three Chinese masseurs or massuses, I can't remember, were working away on us, they're also chatting in Mandarin.

We obviously can't understand anything that they're saying. And one of us says, well, now I know what the Chinese for, my one's got a boner is. And we got the giggles. It's one of the purest giggles. And then I just, you're trying to have a master. I was there obviously wondering why you got

these three white lunatics laughing so much. And it was just a very, very joyful moment in my life. That's so great. Phenomenal giggles. But no one, I don't know who said the line. I'd like to take the credit, but I don't, that part is lost. The giggles are very present.

And then, oh, this could have happened at any point during the day, but it's important that it does happen at some point. And you notice my body position has changed there because it's vital. He's really sitting up in his seat. Something and gesticulating something gets cancelled. Okay. It does not matter what it is. Very good.

It can even have been something I was looking forward to. Not some one. No, no, no, no, no, no. An event. An event. Something that I'm supposed to be going to. Meet someone, do something. Last minute, you get the call. The person says, I'm so sorry, I can't. The joy of cancelled plans. Beautiful.

We need to remember this when we are... When you're worried about... When you're continuing to do a thing out of obligation. Remember, actually, people fucking love it when you cancel yeah not everyone they're just busy people I would say actually I wonder if it is everyone do you know what I mean the relief can you see why that I want that it's such a great feeling such a great and then you have a free hour it doesn't or whatever it is, it doesn't matter what you do with it.

But suddenly it just opens up for you. Then we are going to Rowan's in Finsbury Park. And we are... The bowling alley. The bowling alley. But it's so much more probably my favorite place oh my god you don't want to say the world was quite humdrum but maybe the world I've just spent so many lovely evenings there and I really like bowling and they've also got pool and they've also got the basketball game and I don't think they've got Street Fighter 2 anymore.

Oh I love Street Fighter 2. Street Fighter 2 on the old arcade. Who do you play? I'm Chun-Li, spinning world kick. Of course, of course you're spinning world kick. Well unlucky you're in the air and I'm electrocuting you because I'm Blanka. Blanka? I'm Blanka or sometimes Gael.

Who does, who's Hadorkin? That's um well that's Ken isn't it? Oh that's Ken and Ken and Ryu. Because I sometimes would. Yeah well it's kind of you sort of feel like you have to because it's kind of like the centerpiece of the game. What else? So okay so we've done that we've played all the games they've

somehow they've got some shuffleboard in as well which they don't currently have but we've played all the games. They've somehow they've got some shuffleboard in as well, which they don't currently have, but we've played all of this. I'm on fire. I'm winning everything, but it's tight. There's not like just a, yeah, so it's, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. I think we're near, are we nearly at the end

of your perfect evening? Rowan's- I'm in such desperation. Rowan's, I'm thinking about you. I know, yeah, but I think I've tried, normally Rowan's would be at the end of the, I've sort of shifted it slightly because I then quite like with childcare in place

to have dinner somewhere nice with Ima. That I would like, because that's quite a rarity. Is it? And I think, I think- Because you've got to go to credit at half past eight. Yeah, just, and you know, there's just, it's just difficult to organise these things amazingly in a way that when it wasn't, you didn't realise that it was so easy and you didn't do it enough probably.

Um, and then I would like at this point, we're probably slightly tipsy and I want to cycle home on a, on a line bike a bit. Yeah. A little bit. Just a bit. Little bit tipsy, but not so tipsy that I can't hit the, you know, the thing that, the test. What? So when you, at night, when you get on a line bike,

it makes you do a test on the screen to check that you're not too drunk to ride. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's like, it's like on a driving theory test. Really? So there's a a road and then you have to tap the screen as soon as like a warning sign comes up. No way. Yeah and actually the last time we went to Rowan's I repeatedly failed that test. Wow I did not know that was a thing. Nanny state. Yeah and then yeah so then we, I guess we are back.

Where are you having dinner? What sort of a restaurant are we talking? Upstairs McDonald's, Windows. I think we're gonna aim marginally higher. Oh yeah. Do you know KFC? No, I actually, oddly, and I know these are the kind of details that would be interesting to people, I sort of oddly, and I know these are the kind of details that would be interesting

to people, I sort of don't really mind. I think just the sort of, you know, we had dinner in a Chinese restaurant the other day and the food was really good, but it also turned out that it was, because it was a Friday night, it was like a nightclub. So there was a DJ and there were sort of purple, like these actually, sort of purple lights everywhere and it was quite funny yeah and so I quote someone that's like not not just like a not just like a classic sort of classy establishment somewhere that's a bit like slightly you actually want something slightly mad to happen

the other night we went out for dinner I went out for dinner with some friends and at the end of the meal, the waiter came over and said, I know that some of you were sitting around this table are famous. I was there with a few actor friends. And he went, and I just want to say, I don't give a fuck about any of that. And we were all like, oh, okay. And then it was just such a strange and then we were like, no, no, no. Okay, that's fine. No, we get it. And he went, this is how much I don't give a fuck. And he pulled his notebook out of his pocket and he threw it at my friend's head, who is

a man. And it hit him, the notebook hit him on the head and bounced off. And I think what he thought was going to happen was that we were all going to really laugh And he was gonna get the last laugh of the evening because we'd all been making each other laugh all night Probably been quite annoying laughing loads And nobody knew what to do. Well, no, so what did we do? Reported him to his manager paid the bill and gave him a tip Obviously we tipped him and left. Yeah well he's intimidated you into that I suppose. We were so shocked and then afterwards we were like what do we we don't know what to do anyway

but it but it was I mean awful and really embarrassing at the time but kind of funny and now forever. Great yeah. That's the thing and yeah yeah yeah and it is you're right just like some these little things happening yeah it's nice. Something spontaneous. So it's a latch on to. Yeah yeah yeah. When someone says how was it is you're right just like some these little things happening yeah it's nice something's spontaneous yeah when someone says how was the dinner you're like i'll tell you yes actually a thing happened yeah yeah um because not yeah otherwise you just there's a lot there's lots of admin to discuss isn't that yeah you want something external mad happening. Yeah. At our Chinese nightclub restaurant we sort of ordered dessert and then thought actually maybe we don't know maybe we're just good we were staying in a hotel that night. Fantastic. We thought just want to go back to the hotel.

So waved to the waitress and she came over I said actually can we cancel the dessert and she said no. I've already put the order through in the kitchen and I was like right but could you un put it? No. And so we just folded. Great. Yeah, well good news. Sorry I asked. We want to be two-fold. Oh Rick, thanks. So is there anything else? Well I realised I wanted to go to the cinema. As well? I don't think I'd realistically, I think I've expanded beyond my 24 hours. No you

can absolutely expand it. What are you going are you going with Ema to see? Going with Ema again bit like the restaurant doesn't matter doesn't really matter what it is and then going back and you know you don't want to be in these things in a crude way but But I would like to have a bit of undress. Everybody take their own clothes off. Take your own clothes off and then that's, you know, as nature intended. A light to medium pressure. Yeah.

Yeah, that's a nice way to finish. Yeah, that's a great way. Actually, people don't do it enough. People don't talk about it enough. I think we all get a bit embarrassed around that subject, but it's good to hear that you want to have a massive shag at the end of your perfect day. That's right, yeah.

Yeah, it's been a big day for me. It's been an epic day. I've thoroughly enjoyed it. I don't know how we're gonna edit this down because it's all really good stuff. Well, how long have we been? And we didn't even talk about how we know each other? No, no and I haven't given you a recommendation for something. Shit well remembered. Yeah I know

the format of this. You do know the format. Inside out. Just before you leave, Rick Edwards. Please do leave soon. Please can you tell us what would be a piece of perfection you'd recommend this week? Please can you tell us what would be a piece of perfection you'd recommend this week? My worry is that you will already have had this from someone. Doesn't matter. But out, well this week as we speak, I don't know when this will come out, is Tim and Tom's film. Oh I haven't seen it yet. The Ballad of Wallace Island. Yes.

And it is absolute, look, this is like two of my best friends, so I'm so sort of biased and positively predisposed and I have so much love, irrespective, but it is genuinely brilliant. I've heard. Like it makes me feel quite emotional how good it is. Wow.

It's just like, obviously really funny but then Tom is a genuinely talented musician which is funny because when we lived together was when he first started trying to play the guitar like 25 years ago and he was absolutely appalling. It was sort of like a running joke and now he's like got an album out and then it's just like really touching and sweet and the whole thing is beautiful and it's getting like really really good reviews and it's also quite overwhelming for them and I feel just really, nothing to do with it, feel incredibly proud and I just want, you know, just want everyone to go and see it really. So that is.

That is the ballad of Wallace Island. Yes. Written by and starring Tim Key and Tom Baston. Rick Edwards. Thank you. Jess Knappett. So much for coming on Perfect Day, it was delightful. Well thank you for having me and also thank you for giving me the largest bottle of water I've ever been given in a podcast studio.

Chug it all down before you leave. Well this is going to last me days. Wasn't he an absolute delight? I mean he can't pronounce the word stent of course but other than that what a great guy. What a game lad. Thanks to Rick for joining us to discuss his perfect day. If you want to be like Rick and play Fiverr Cider, don't. Please don't. It sounds incredibly irresponsible and fun. And you don't have time for that. Like and subscribe. Follow us on our Perfect Day cast for all your Perfect Day news. From Yorkshire with love, I'm Jessica Knappett, wishing you a perfect day. A perfect day. How do you know if you're worrying too much?

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