Perfect Day with Jessica Knappett - EP12: Kiell Smith-Bynoe

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

‘Ghosts’ actor and comedian, Kiell Smith-Bynoe joins Jessica Knappett this week to talk all about his perfect day. The pair discuss drama school and the pitfalls of being an actor, the logistics of pool parties, how to do a 'lads lads lads' holiday, the floating breakfast loophole, Chinese food and Dolmio Days.  Like, subscribe and leave us a review - we’re on @perfectdaycast on Instagram or you can email us at [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

C-T-A-M-P-E Alright then. Have you ever seen a man down a sour cream and chive dip at 9am? Hello perfect people, I'm Jessica Knappett and you are not just a pretty face. Welcome to Perfect Day. Do you know what? I sort of had elements of a perfect day this weekend crucially i had my first pie of the season and then i had my second pie of the season all in one weekend i my first pie i'll tell you about my first pie, shall I? I'll talk you through them.

It was a post Patrick Grant pie. I interviewed Patrick Grant, the sewing bee judge, in Ilkley, my hometown, Ilkley gravy, mash, red wine, mash and lash. I had a lot of red wine, mash and lash. And then my second pie of the season, if you're interested, was on Sunday, I went to my first ever rugby league match. Now if you don't know rugby league neither do I. Apparently what it is is just a sort of more aggressive version of normal rugby, rugby union as they call it. From what I witnessed it was like wrestling meets rugby. But the reason I went down was because I got invited to my local team, Keesley Cougars, because they have this quite unusual

for a local sports team. And there's an article about this in the New York Times this week. They are run by an openly gay couple. They fly the pride flag on the stands. They have drag queens on the pitch. So it's this sort of aggressive sport meets queer celebration and I am down for it. So I went down there. Second pie of the season. Pint. and pint, muscular thighs, thrilling. Thighs and pies, mash and lash.

Thighs and pies. Anyway, I digress very much so. We've got a fantastic episode of Perfect Day today. In this week's episode, we have actor and comedian Kael Smith-Bino, who I met filming the beloved sitcom Ghosts, in which he stars. We talk a bit about that. We also chat Kael's acting training. We delve into the craft a little and then we lower the tone, chatting lads, lads, lads holidays. It's a cracker of an episode. So let's just get on with it, shall we? I'll see you on the other side. This is Kyle Smith by Nose.

Perfect day. Jess, it's my perfect day. I don't want to scan a QR code, okay? All right, then. Yes, what's just happened here? Oh, it's connected. Hang on, let me disconnect that. It's all in bloody Bluetooth now, isn't it?

Turn up my microphone. It's all Bluetooth, Blu-ray, bloody VCR. I can't keep up. It's all in blueu-ray bloody vcr i can't keep up it's all bling clad okay how are you mate i'm okay the play's the play's fun yeah tell me about it i'm doing the government inspector the mileabone theater and we're just having a nice time so you haven't had to move the furniture and the props in the first act. That's the worst thing. That happened to me once. It wasn't in the beginning of the play,

but they just had me come on and move some furniture around. Right. And so I had to be there. You don't want to be part of that. Absolutely shafted. And also you had to move it around and you had to dance at the same time. Yes, that's what they're doing. Are they?

They're doing set changes in character set changes that was the word i was looking for yeah i was looking for you're a tv girl you know that stuff well not me are you so are you like a proper actor then well i went to drama school yes which drama school did you go to east 15th oh, the cool one. Yeah, yeah, if you like that sort of thing. But yeah, it was all theatre-based. We did like six weeks of screen with Jonathan Firth.

Who's that? You know the guy? Colin Firth's brother. Oh, right. Did he mention it? He didn't, but everyone else did. Everyone else would not stop talking about him. And also, he won the BAFTA during that six weeks of our course.

That's a tough situation, isn't it? Yeah. When I say a six-week course, it was two hours once a week for six weeks. Two hours once a week for six weeks. Right, okay. That's more than enough. that's all you need but that was the only bit of screen we had so that was the only sort of knowledge that I had of being on camera and they taught us about like you know wides and and singles and double twos all of that did they teach you about what you'd have to do if there were 10 ghosts around

you and you just had to ignore them they didn't do that they didn't do that and i would have loved it if they had so only me you and charlotte ritchie well there will be other people actors that came in and did this but I know from experience that the hardest thing about I felt the hardest thing about the job that you do is ignoring all those fuckers being hilarious around you yeah and they are hilarious so

hard just pretending they're not there because what they do when they're filming ghosts is they do a pass with no ghosts they do it they do it they shoot a take with no ghosts in it right and then you do you do your normal dialogue with with charlotte richie and then they bring all the ghosts in and they go okay ghosts in yeah And then all the loonies come in. Yeah. And they're just carrying on their chat from the green room,

asking if you prefer chicken or bed sheets. And they're just carrying on that one. Yeah, yeah, chat, chat, chat, chat, chat. And action. And then all of a sudden you can't even look in their direction. You're not allowed to look at them and i mean i had a few scenes where i had to keep talking as they were all talking yeah i mean that's so hard you have to pretend that they're not speaking and you're just carrying

on your talk talking to them i mean it's genuine it was genuinely so challenging yeah so, because you're a really good actor. Thank you. And you were really funny anyway, but I don't think I'd quite realised how challenging that is. Thank you. And I don't think Jonathan Firth realises either, and I'll be writing to him to tell him to include that in the next semester.

Do you have siblings? No, none. Twelve. Basically, my dad had twelve and my mum had one. So I'm an only child and also one of twelve. That's cool. It's like a riddle. Yes. Yeah.

They're half-sisters. They're half-s They're half sisters. And are you close with some of the 12 more than others? Yes, definitely. That's a lot. Some of them I actively ignore. What was the most cringe thing you had to do at driver school? Because driver school is pretty cringe on the whole, isn't it?

Oh, absolutely, yeah. The first year is about yourself so learning about yourself the second year is about others so other people and also other characters boring and i'm dropping out of the first year i'll do the first year three times and then the third year is about incorporating both of those into, like, modern and classical pieces. Okay. But the first year of, like, learning about yourself is quite... I mean, it was good for me because I was 18 when I went to drama school. So I did need to learn about myself because I didn't know a damn thing.

And it's sort of weird because you're in a you're in a class doing the same thing as like a 25 year old with a bachelor's in bioscience yeah sure and then and then bioscience is that why so kyle and thanks for being here and i mean obviously i well not obviously but i follow you on instagram and i think you've got a pretty sweet life you said that like i don't follow you back no i think you probably do but i follow you yes you do because that's how we communicated prior to the podcast um and i think that you have you're very you you come across as quite well-travelled and you like your nice restaurants. So I'm thinking that this might be quite a luxe perfect day. That's just my guess.

Am I right? Well, no spoilers, but yes. Yes, I love this. I think it's going to be bougie. Okay, should we begin? Yeah. This is your perfect morning. Where do you want to be? morning where do you want to be okay well the thing is right i have never done this so i don't actually know if it is my perfect morning but from looking at it it looks exactly what i want because i want to be in thailand with my breakfast floating in the pool oh that's a great one yes please i want to float in breakfast in the water infinity pool

okay so is it on a floating tray yes and you're sort of dunked in the water not done yeah i'm chasing my breakfast around the pool chasing after it yeah i don't know about the practicality of a floating breakfast it sounds nice doesn't doesn't it? It does sound nice, yeah. Also, I mean, you're not really meant to eat standing up, are you? Well, you're also not supposed to swim immediately after eating. Or during.

What about during? No one said anything about during. Ooh, rule breaker. So that is what I want. I want like a... The thing is... Okay, no, you said I can do whatever I want. I want a Turkish breakfast.

Ooh, okay. In Thailand. The way they do it in Thailand. Is it halloumi? No, that's green. Halloumi's involved. Thailand. Is it halloumi? No, that's green. Halloumi's involved. You can get some halloumi involved. You can get Turkish sausage.

You get dips, loads of dips. The dips, like, have honey as well. You get the... What else you get on there? You can get like beef bacon and you can get the eggs are like sort of small but flat.

Does that make sense? Like poached? Like small circles shaped but like flat. Fried? Like what you get in a McDonald's Egg McMuffin oh yeah yeah yeah I'm with you I'm with you yeah um like a patty like almost like an egg patty yeah yes yes exactly but crucially in a swimming pool on and this tray is sort of floating around they've they've figured

out they've figured out the engineering of it yes anybody anybody with you are you alone i like to be i like to be surrounded by my friends right but i don't always want to talk to them okay i quite like when my friends are talking to each other and i'm just there like on ghosts yeah yeah exactly like that i want to do series six um i think like i do enjoy having all my friends around me but i don't always want to be involved in their conversations yeah i know what you mean i love i love it when people are like we're gonna be at the pub doing this thing yes do you want to come and you can decide whether or not you swing by and if you do then you can leave again and it's just sort of going it's like a dipping in and out situation see mine's close to that but i want to organize it so i know exactly who's coming yeah yeah okay yeah so you're in charge of the invites and so your friends are

there but you don't have to talk to them yes exactly and they won't be offended yeah I think I think this ideal scenario this morning is in a villa and we're all staying in the villa but it's just like whoever gets up first is there at the pool. Yeah, great. Have you got lots of mates that you get? Have you got like holiday mates? Well, I've got like a few different groups of friends, but the only sort of big holiday I've done, I went to Barcelona for my 35th two months ago.

Happy birthday. Thank you so much. And I just put a bunch of people together and a few people didn't know each other a few people did. It was 16 of us and it was perfect. What kind of a place did you stay in in Barcelona? All 16 of you

in a villa in Barcelona. Were you in Barcelona's city centre? Pretty much. It was sort of like 15 minutes in a villa in Barcelona. Were you in Barcelona city centre? Pretty much. It was sort of like 15 minutes in a cab from the proper centre. Right, nice. Did you have a pool and stuff?

Yeah, but it was too cold. There was a hot tub. Sweet. So that was nice, it was great. What are the qualities that you need in your mates on this perfect morning i need um chill okay yeah we don't i've been on i've been on some mad holidays right i went to ibiza in 2013 with three boys from br Bristol that I'd met in Ayia Napa in 2009. Oh crikey.

And they were not chill. Have you ever seen a man down a sour cream and chive dip at 9am? No, but he sounds like my kind of guy. They used to play drinking games and there was no start or stop. It was literally from when I met them, we were playing. And they're still playing now, I think.

Sour cream and chive dip, not technically a drink. No, but it's like if you hand someone something and you don't say a certain word before it's handed to you, you have to down it. Oh, this is major bants. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is very bants heavy. Yeah.

It's a lot of that. And it's just that constantly. I mean, they're a bit older now. So you're just being lads, lads, lads. Were you on the pull as well at this time? Yeah, I'd be for 2013 a bit older now. So you're just saying, lads, lads, lads, were you on the pull as well? Yeah. At this time. I'd be for 2013.

Oh, yeah. Big time. Big time. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm familiar with that kind of holiday. But things are a bit calmer now. Yes.

And what you want from your friends on your perfect morning is not having to down sour cream any dips any okay great what's your normal morning like do you have a normal do you have a morning routine? I'll wake up late. I'll wake up and be like, I've got to... Why? What do you mean? What's late? Just later than the time I should have been up for the thing that I've got to do. Right, so you don't have a regular time that you wake up. Do you not set an alarm clock? No, not unless I've got to be somewhere.

So you don't have any kind of like routines. People do things in the mornings. No, I don't have anything like that. A shower every morning and I brush my teeth. But apart from that, no, I don't even have like, you know, some people have like a thing that they have every morning, like a, I don't know, Actonel, for example. Yeah.

Nothing. I've just like, we'll see, for example. Yeah. Nothing. I've just like, we'll see what happens. Sometimes it's nothing, and I'm fuming about it, but it's my fault, because I woke up late. So you're not doing your daily affirmations in the mirror before you do? No, I'm not.

No. Okay, let's move on. Unless there was more to add to your perfect morning, is there? No, I think that's pretty much that. You know, like, my breakfast i push it away um and then it floats off yeah see i'd never have to worry about that again um it goes off the edge of the infinity pool so for the rest of the day then, what is your perfect afternoon? Well, I have just had breakfast, but I do want a lunch. Yes.

Do you know what I do enjoy is a, I love a pool party. I know I've already just come up, I know I just got out of the pool. But this one's just like, this know just go out of the pool but but this one's just like this is just a chill one with my friends but i want to go to like a big one with like a saxophonist whoa what so there's a dj is there a dj playing yeah like choleric beats yeah love it love that stuff yes tell me about pool party because i sort of know about them i think they're like a fairly new thing so can you describe a pool party to people who may not know who are old like me well it depends it depends where you go but this one for example that i'm thinking of

is like ibiza and it's not not hardcore Ibiza sort of chill Ibiza a nice a place that's called like Whisper Lounge and it's and everyone's shouting and

and it's sort of there's some Buddhas on the yeah yeah yeah and it's a bit fancy and it's sort of... There's some Buddhas on the... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's a bit fancy and it's sort of like... You've had to pay quite a lot to get in. Yeah, you've got to get a table for your group. That's how we sorted the wheat from the chaff. Yeah.

You've got to get a table for the group and there's sort of a minimum spend. But food and drink are included in there so you can get your sushi bits and um so is that what happens then you sit down you get a table and is there a like because i think i've seen somewhere you sort of also get a hot tub or something but it's not that oh those are the proper fancy ones those are like you can get that like vegas right um and you can have like a yeah a hot tub at your table or a mini pool at your table but this is there's a pool it's like quite a bougie

and then all the tables are they around they're sort of like arranged around the pool and everyone's in their swimwear looking hot and drinking loads of booze. Yes. And they bring food and drinks to your table. Exactly that. Yeah. I don't want to be scanning a QR code. Jess, it's my perfect day. I don't want to scan a QR code. Okay.

I hear you. I see you. I honor you. No QR code. It's fucking perfect afternoon, please. I just want someone to come over and ask me what I'd like. Yes. And I take a look at the menu

and I'll tell them I'm not scanning anything, I'm not putting in my email I don't want to do it No, well God, I know we've had a new restaurant open up near us actually in my little town and they don't do table service it's all QR codes

and the town aren't happy about it they're just not happy about it. You wouldn't be. They're just not happy about it. Think about towns. People love human interaction. They do, famously. This is a very small town.

It's a community. What's wrong with just asking somebody for the thing you want and then you can ask them questions about the menu. Exactly. You can flirt with them if they're fit. Yes. Oh, man. about the menu exactly you can flirt with them if they're fit yes oh man i mean what what's it all for so um do you get do you actually get in the pool because i because the pool parties i was invited to in los angeles she's banging on about it again um nobody got in the pool yeah not really but you're right you've already been in the pool. Yeah, not really. But you're right, you've already been in the pool in the morning.

I've already been in it all morning. I'm a prune by now. I don't understand it. So it's just a restaurant then? I guess so. But you can have a little splash about. Not fully in, but you can dip your toes in. You can sit on the edge.

Are people dancing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the last one I went to was when I went to Dubai in October because my cousin lives out there. Do you like Dubai? I do, yeah. Wow. But, you know, it's just because it's fancy.

It's so unnecessarily fancy. Yeah. It's just like, we've got the biggest thing in the world. We've got the shiniest thing in the world. Right. All of that for no reason. I do like that sort of stuff. And there's a pool party I went to there,

and there was a guy there who had got a table just by himself and had a magnum of rosé wine and then a fruit platter. To himself? To himself. And then he was like, we were on the table next to him, and he was like, yeah, boys, come, come, come. And went over and he was like, yeah, anything you want, you can have it.

Have as much fruit as you want. And then I was like, you sure? He was like, yeah, yeah, I don't drink. You just wanted some friends yeah i think so the thing is he's got so much money and no friends that's yes that's what that image says to me that's exactly what that was so i took full advantage and ate all of the melon i could never saw him again yeah um no that sort of thing was that that sort of uh aesthetic is like nice you know you got fruit platter you can pick at bits um drinks it's decadent yeah you can dip your feet in

there's people in there are some people in the pool they've got inflatable stuff so you can try nice you can have a little bit of a lazy rivers kind of vibe but so i mean i and i don't mean this in a judgmental way but is the idea that you're sort of checking people out and it's kind of like a pickup situation like i can't imagine now i wouldn't probably go to one of those i mean i certainly wouldn't go with my kids but now that i'm married i don't I can't see myself attending a pool party. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is a bit of that.

But also it's like, you know, there's entertainment as well. There's like... There's a guy doing sleight of hand in a waistcoat. It's, I guess there's like, it's a DJ, it's a guy doing sleight of hand in a waistcoat. It's, I guess there's like, it's a DJ, it's a guy on a saxophone, it's some girl with rolling fire up her arm. Oh really?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of that. And also you're on, it is a pool party, but you're sort of on the beach. So you're looking out at the water.

Yeah. And then you do, you do that all day until sunset. And you're just getting steadily a bit pissed. Yes. And you're just chatting with your... So does it ever sort of, does it descend into carnage? Or does it stay quite chilled?

I think it stays quite chilled. I think I'm past the carnage now. I've done it. I get it. Yeah, I get it. You're're growing up you're a sophisticated man now yeah i've done it i've done it too much of it and also also i don't like i don't think i'll ever do a lads holiday again with as many people as i've been on a lads holiday with when i was in 2018 i went on a stag do and I beat her with 30 boys. Oh, my God. There were 30 of us. That's actually my nightmare.

Someone's always slowing you down. And I tend to just cut loose and say, I'll meet you there. Right, yeah. Do you think that's bad form in a group travel situation? But I just don't have the patience for it. Yeah, sometimes. You have to have that person, though, in a group travel situation but i get i just i don't have the patience yeah something yeah sometimes you have to have that person though because that person makes other people go okay no no we're coming now so i think you have to have it and then everyone the worst is going

through security airport security with a group of people and they haven't people haven't patched and they've put liquids in and they've put that and i'm like i will see you in the lounge mate if you don't know how to pack your suitcase i'm not going on holiday with you i'll see you on the plane yeah i'm not with 30 people on my perfect day i'm with like eight yeah and um yeah we're in we're having a great time and stuffing our faces, drinking, looking at the views until sundown. Gorgeous. Yeah. On a normal day, and I'm sure there isn't a normal day for you.

Maybe now you just get offered things, but are you still auditioning or are you too big time no I wish I wish I wasn't auditioning I wish people would just be like I'd love we need you to do this we need you to play this part um no I'm auditioning little bits like tapes and stuff I haven't been in the room in ages yeah I know in know. In fact, no, that's not true. I went in the room for a thing the other day and as I was doing it, I was thinking,

this guy's thinking about his dinner. No. This guy's thinking about what he's going to eat later on. Did you see him? He saw his eyes going out. Yeah, yeah. I saw him just going out. I saw him go, this isn't... no, I don't think this is right. I don't think it is right for this part. But let's get through it.

Oh, God. And I felt that happen. And I felt that happen before. Yeah, I've had people on their phones. Really? But then they will say, sometimes people say that they're making notes on their phone Like are you On whatsapp to you mate

Yeah Candy crush I can hear the candy crush noises You're thinking You can't wait for me to leave the room So you can hear this video with the sound What's the worst Have you got any bad

audition stories? Do you know what? What I remembered yesterday was that I once got told in the room that I'd got a part. And you didn't. And never heard from them ever again. Oh my god, that's terrible. I mean, it was only for a commercial. It was for like

a Sky tv commercial but at that time i needed that sky tv commercial yeah and um he was like yeah fantastic that's the guy had he'd i got to it was in his house it was in his flat in common garden oh and i'd got there before him and then i've got a message from my agent saying that he's running late because he uh the train was delayed from brighton i'd never forget this and then he sort of turned up and he was so casual about it it's like oh you're right oh my god that's my worst that is absolutely unforgivable then he started talking to me about my trainers yeah nice where are they from yeah lovely nice well you get them online you've been in the shop nice very nice

and then you have kept me waiting you do not talk to me about my trainers without a full apology then we went out it was like sorry let me sort this mess out, moving things around. Right, shall we do it here? We'll do it here. We'll do it here. And then he was like, you need the lines? I was like, no, no, no, I've got it. He was like, oh, lovely. You know your lines.

Nice, nice. Then we did. I mean, it's for a commercial, so there's probably like six lines in total. And we do it once. He was like, I like that. I like the way he's done that. Yeah, nice. Shall we try it? Add something in. Then we do it. He's like, I like that. I like the way he's done that. Yeah, nice. Shall we try it?

Add something in. Then we do that. He's like, mate, I'll be honest with you. You're the guy for this. You're the guy for this. You know I'm happy with that. You are free Thursday. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's like, right, well, I'll see you Thursday. I was like, great. I've done it. I've smashed it. And I spoke to my agent that afternoon. And I was like, yeah. He said. I've done it. I've smashed it. And I spoke to my agent that afternoon, and I was like, yeah. He said, like, he said, I've got it. He said, like, it's just like, oh, fantastic. Well, I'll be in touch tomorrow with the details.

Because it was like, you know, like, those turnarounds were quite quick when we were doing the commercials. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe it was like a Monday. And then Tuesday, nothing. End of Tuesday, I messaged her, and her and she was like right I'll chase it up again tomorrow, in the morning the Wednesday morning she was like yeah they've

gone in a different direction what what could you possibly be talking about do you know who they chose no I don't, no I do had they gone in a different direction no, what's his name daniel lawrence taylor

no no no um rickley lewis he had like a small afro and it was that those adverts were on for years yeah they would have been unreal. I missed out on an advert once. It was an advert for a German, sort of, I guess like the German B&Q. Right. And they had like a sort of like character that was like animated and he was, weirdly, he was a ghost guy, a ghost of a handyman

and it was it was an animated figure right and the woman in the audition the casting director said obviously we haven't got the we haven't got the the handyman ghost for you to respond to and i was like well no good well no just like so i've um what i've done is i've put um i've drawn a picture of a ghost on a post-it and i'm just going to hold up the bin and you and she stuck the post-it on a bin she was like i'm going to hold up the bin when the ghost is haunting you okay so so i was like so sorry and she was like so you're reading a book you're just reading a book and then when when the ghost comes into into shot then you just respond to it like you would respond to any ghost okay so i just sort of pretend to read a book and then and then i had

to do like a double take like whoa that's a ghost of a handyman but obviously when she did it she picked up the waste paper basket and went oh no that was like you and then i i know i got i got down to like the last two or three but they say this a lot this is something you hear a lot in the acting world you're down to the last three am i because i know seven other people who think they're down to the last three as well so that's weird um but i didn't get it and they gave it to a man but that would have any and he actually said that he'd had quite a bad time on it and he'd had to he'd really hurt himself doing a stunt running into a waste paper bin yeah um but yes do you not not find doing theatre a bit boring? Not yet. We're still in this.

Press Night was one week ago. We've only got four weeks left. It's a five-week run. Oh, that's so nice. No time to get bored, apart from on a Thursday matinee where you're like, get this over. If you absolutely smash it, is it not going to extend or go somewhere else or whatever

ticket sales would not point to an extension unfortunately but it's a really good play and we're having a great time so that's what's important at the moment but the um sometimes the matinees are a slog so you're not doing a matinee on your perfect day then? No, thank you. But I would like to do a live podcast. Is it what live podcast are you doing? This one.

Yes. This one live to 100,000 people. What is it that you like about live podcasts? I did Drunk Women Solving Crime. It was my first ever live podcast. And I was like, this experience is incredible. Yes, I know what you mean.

Being a guest on a podcast that people love. Yeah, there's no pressure. You sort of just like, you save some stuff and you like you could be a bit silly and chat to the audience if you want and just like pressures off just have a bit of fun i love it oh wow because you do a lot of improv yeah i think it's such an amazing skill improv so i'm so in awe of people who can do it yeah I just like I've been part of different improv uh groups and then I May Martin asked me to come and do a improv show in LA

oh wow so we went and did that for like five nights and we had a great time but i always wanted my own thing and then when i did taskmaster as it was like as it was coming out just before it came out do you know andy milligan yes i know him really well yeah yeah so he said to me he was like oh so what's your what's your thing what you sell it and i was like what do you mean and he's like you know taskmaster's coming out and what have you got to what are you promoting oh just being on taskmaster my instagram and he was like you gotta you gotta sell something that's like it's the biggest market in oh my god it's the best advertising you can get yeah and i was like oh my gosh and then i was like well I've always wanted to do my own improv shows so I guess I'll do that and then I got in touch with Bert's Nest and they were like

yep let's do it three nights in Edinburgh booked it 265 seater I was like pardon me I hadn't really even worked out the format properly and so like that's the lovely thing about improv yeah yeah but on that day I was still like when we're in the tech i was still working out like bits of like okay so then the guests will come on at that bit and then and then as i kept as we were saying that i was like right and then i'll get the guests back out and then owen from burt's nest was like you mean back out from the wings and i was like oh no back out from the from in the audience and he's like there's no space in the audience. And he's like, there's no space for them in the audience. We're sold out.

Whoa. I haven't even worked out where the guest goes. What do you mean we're sold out? And, yeah, but it was like the first show was amazing. And that was Laura Ricote was our first guest. And then we just had a great run in Edinburgh. We did three nights. We did two in Soho.

And then I did a massive one at uh theater rose stratford that that not doing my own show is not in my perfect day because there's just the pressure of will it be good is it a good bit will they laugh um but being a guest on a live podcast is a dream yes love it oh so i'll do this live okay great what's your perfect night well i'm sort of torn between i don't know about you but i love a midnight dinner oh i love a late night restaurant I love a midnight dinner oh I love a late night restaurant do you yeah it's one of my favorite things whenever I'm whenever oh I won't oh no yes it's just a it's just a recipe for indigestion that's terrible actually I won't sleep really well it depends because what I love about doing shows at Soho is that afterwards you can walk somewhere to

eat okay so because that's a different that is different a late night post show curry for instance can't get enough of that in my scenario would be a chinese ah yeah because you could just walk to chinatown can't you you can you absolutely can yeah so have you done something you've done the podcast yeah and then this is like a post show because there's something about the vibe of a post show exactly yeah yeah you're with your pals from the podcast which is me basically it's me with me and producer Lucy yeah and some of some people who've come to just hang out with us backstage. Sorry, it's your perfect night, not mine.

No, but you're right. You're completely right. Is there a favourite restaurant in Chinatown? There's a place called Old Town. I think it's called Old Town 97. Hmm. And I think it's the best chicken wings in London. Ooh.

Are they salt and pepper chicken wings? Yes. Yes, they are. You would be correct. I think fried chicken might be the best. It really is. Yeah, it is. What's quite annoying is that they...

I'm not a fan of their layout in there. It's all over the place. You can't... You cannot enjoy your wings without someone, like, spilling black bean sauce on your back. It's like... Oh, it's two...

You're two-pack ten. Yeah. Okay, so they've taken a few... It's your perfect night, so they've taken a few tables away. Yeah, oh, lovely. They've taken us to a special... The private dining room in the back. I taken a few tables away. Yeah, oh, lovely. They've taken us to a special, the private dining room in the back.

I had a private dining room. Private dining room in the back of Bashi. Do you like Szechuan Chinese? I like Szechuan. That's the stuff that, have you had it? The stuff that kind of like numbs, I mean, I've taught this is, we're getting into off-menu territory here,

but it's the stuff that kind of numbs your mouth i actually got a dolmio voiceover ad off of off menu what yeah did you do did you have to do the italian accent no are you the guy saying when's your Dolmio a day? I can't believe that's you. Yeah, it shouldn't be me, but look, I'll take the money. No, it's different puppets. It's new puppets. Oh, my God.

Are you the voice of a puppet or are you the person that goes, Dolmio? No, I'm the voice of a puppet and I also go, Dolmio Yeah What? This is mind blowing Yeah, it's me and John Kearns No way I recorded an advert with John Kearns

once and I've just remembered I didn't get it Oh You know sometimes you record the voiceovers and then I didn't get it oh you know sometimes you record the voiceovers and then you don't get it I did that for uber trains did you oh that makes me feel better because they don't it's it's not it's not personal then is it they just yeah nothing to do with skill and you still get paid you do yeah but not as much as you would if you were actually yeah exactly yeah um i obviously just couldn't embody the voice of a can of gin um but i love doing voiceover work

yeah i love it so much sorry one second i'm getting i'm getting... Out of here. Hang on, I'm getting told off. Because we've gone over. Are you in the car okay? Should I say no? Okay, let's wrap it up. You're in the car okay? Yes.

Good thing this isn't live. Because then they should know I'm lying. So we've done, right, so we've done the show. We've gone for a... Gone for a Chinese. Isn't the thing, because I said I was torn. Do I want to go out? Do I want to go out? I don't know.

You've been at a pool party all day. I have been at a pool party all day. That's true. And also you've got to get your car. But you can go out if you want. I think on this occasion I won't go out I think I'll go for the Chinese and I'll stuff my face

and then I'll waddle home and in this scenario I'm staying in a nice hotel in Soho maybe Yeah, that's what we do on Perfect Day Live. Yeah, great. Fancy hotels all round. So, can you remember your perfect day?

Yeah, can I? Yeah. Go on then, let's hear it. Start off with breakfast in the pool, in an infinity pool with a floating breakfast in Thailand. With your mates around you being chill. With my mates around me being extremely chill, but funny. Very important, most important.

Then we go to a pool party in Ibiza. You dip your feet in the pool, stand around, you chat, you dance a bit. Do that all day until the sun sets. Then we're off to London Soon soho theater for perfect day live in the upstairs no the the main space main yeah yeah yeah in the main space um but there's still people stood up at the back and down the down the steps it's a fire it's a health and safety hazard but but it's so funny and then we're off to chinatown um to try out jess's favorite china chinatown oh thank you very much i thought we were going to go to yours and take some tables now i don't mind trying stuff and i think i actually think

that the um aesthetic in yours would be more up my street. Wait until you see it, but yeah. You're not going for the decor. Sure. You're going for the food. Right, right. And then stuff our faces, laugh, laugh, laugh. Laugh, laugh, laugh.

Waddle over to a five-star hotel. Yes. Oh, that is absolutely perfect. Kyle, thank you so much for coming on Perfect Day. Thank you. It really has been a perfect day for me talking to you. And go quickly, you've got to go. Oh, that's it.

That's the interview. Thank you to lovely Kael for what might be our bougiest perfect day so far. What do you think? Really nice of him to talk to me, seeing as he admits that he doesn't always like talking to his friends. While we're here, what's the worst thing you've ever downed? Is it weirder than a sour cream and chive dip?

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