Perfect Day with Jessica Knappett - EP29: Fatiha El-Ghorri

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

The sensational Fatiha El-Ghorri joins Jess this week to share her perfect day. Picture this - you’re lying in fresh, crisp sheets, the sun is streaming through your window, the curtains billow slightly in the breeze and… you’ll have to listen in to hear the rest! Hint, it includes warm buttered toast, Judge Judy and finding pleasure in the little things. Like and subscribe for brand-new episodes every Thursday. Follow us on Instagram @perfectdaycast. And, why not get in touch? Email us at [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey Spotify, this is Javi. My biggest passion is music and it's not just sounds and instrument, it's more than that to me. It's a world full of harmonies with chillers. From streaming to shopping, it's on Prime. Alright then. Every time I have a shower I have to change my bed sheets. Hello perfect listeners, I'm Jessica Knappett the incredible, the hilarious, the bombastic, the bodacious Fattier El Goury. Now if you love a duvet day, this one's for you. We discuss the unspoken rules of showering. We discuss fresh bed sheets, grocery shopping, Judge Judy, terrariums.

And finding pleasure in the little things as always. So grab a glass of iceless orange juice and let's get going. Here is Fatir El Ghori's perfect day. So I'm obsessed with toast. Alright then. Fatiha El Ghori, she's here baby! Yes I've dragged myself out to come and see you just for you. Yeah, this is, this is look, Fati has been in her poorly sick bed. We should flag. She's doing me a serious solid here. Said you can go back, crawl into your sick bed. She said no. Yeah. She in fact, her words were anything for you. It was. I actually sung it actually as well.

So I really do appreciate you being here all the more and I can't wait to hear. I wanted to first ask you what you've been up to. I usually ask people what they've been up to, but I know you've just been smashing through a fever for the last two weeks. Yeah, properly sick. I had like, yeah, do you know what it was? I took my nieces to Dancing on Ice. Have you ever, no, not Dancing on Ice, sorry, that's the wrong one. An ice rink. I took some to Disney on Ice.

Falling on Ice. Oh really? It's so good. What, so is that in London? Yeah, it's in the O2. So we went there and I was scoping out and I was like, Oh, I wonder if I could one day play this venue. And then I was like, and that's how I knew I was sick. I was like, Oh, the fever's come back. That's what it is. It's a fever dream. So yeah, no, I took them. It was so good. We had such a good time, but I got sick straight after that. Like, like immediately I was like all shivering. You know what that is, don't you? It's, it's a room full of children. It's a stadium full

of children. Children, they, they harbour disease and they just, they cough their plague onto you. And then you go home. You cannot be in the vicinity of children. That's what you do. That was your mistake there. Around the festive period as well. Like it's a death sentence really. You're just like, yeah. You're inhaling. You're inhaling, especially in the 02. You're inhaling thousands of children's nurseries and schools. This is, oh, it was awful. And I just, this is not the first time I've been sick by kids once because I've never had chickenpox as a child. Sick by children.

Sick by, that's what I should write a film called Sick by Kids and write down all my fever dreams and stuff. But yeah, it was just, I got chicken box when I was like 28 from a child. Really? The pops. I never had it. I never had it. My sister had it three times and I never had it. And then I got it from a little kid that was like two years old that had it. Is it really bad when you get it when you're an adult? It's really bad. I had to go to hospital loads of times because you can get pneumonia.

I may have to like check my chest and it was just a nightmare man. I was like this is the, I thought that was the worst illness ever and then I got this sickness from, so obviously like 10,000 kids is worse than like chickenpox. Well I must say I'm delighted we're in this enclosed airlift space together. Oh don't worry I've been caning medication. I'll finish my antibiotics. Don't worry. I'm like, like, you know, when you've seen that Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns is glowing. That's me. Full of like, white antibodies. Is that what they're called? The white ones that they're the white ones that keep you well. Yeah, the good ones. Yeah, right. Okay. Good. Right. Well, should we crack on then? I mean, I can't imagine you've had a lot of time to think about your perfect day or maybe you have maybe you just that's all

you've been fantasizing about as you've been laying up. But should we start? Let's have your perfect morning. Ah, so my perfect morning, right, is like waking up and it's like not too hot and not too cold, but a little bit fresh. And then like the sun coming in through the curtains. And then your fluffy pillows, you know, like hotel room pillows. Oh yeah, what do they do? Oh, they just, I know, I'm like, do you know what I do? Every time I stay in a hotel and I like the pillows, I'll take a picture of the label and I'm like, I'm going to buy it.

But you can't find it because they're all like wholesale. Yeah, I know. I've done the same. I've done that. And then it's like hotel collection or whatever and then you can never actually find it. And I'm like, do I steal these pillows and get arrested for stealing pillows? Or do you open a hotel just so that you can find out where you get the, or start working in a hotel? Yeah. And we've got to, there's got to be a way to find out. Where?

Yeah, where they are and to buy them. Come on. Do you like a soft fluff, do you like a feather or do you like a bit of like, what am I trying to say? Yeah, I like a bit. Do you like it to be firm or do you like to be held? Yeah, I like to be held. You know the pillow when you lie and then it comes up kind of like over your ears, like

that kind of thing. I don't like, I don't mind feather ones, but sometimes they can get really thin. Yeah. And if you don't put a protector, then you the little feathers will poke your face out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they will. No, no. So yeah, so I guess not a firm one, but a full one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, that would be and then like fresh bed sheets. So you have a shower the night before. So crisp. Crisp. And, yeah, yeah. So yeah, that would be and then like fresh bed sheets. You have a shower the night before. So crisp. Crisp and you know the linen ones and they get cold as well. So they're like, because I like, I turn my pillow around a lot in the night. Do you like it all to be cold? Do you like your room to be like cold room? Yeah. Yeah.

If it's if I'm too hot, I can't sleep. I'm like, so yeah, like even when I, if I'm in a hotel, I'll have the aircon on and stuff and it'll be like winter. Like, do you remember I saw you before Christmas, we was working on something and like remember it was like so cold and snowing and I went to, um, prayer and got a cup of ice for my water. Did you? I missed that. I missed that journey. And there was a couple of people with me, like Nikki and Amy.

Were you just chomping water? Yeah. I was, I just have to have, it has to be ice cold. Otherwise. Okay. Let me know if it gets too hot in here. Seriously. There is air con and they just asked me if I wanted it.

And I was like, well, no, cause it's winter and it's been literally snowing, but I may be wrong about that. So you're in your lovely, the sun's coming through the window, you've got your comfy bed, your crisp white sheets and then what happens? Or is it just, that's it, you're in bed all morning? Yeah, just laying on my phone, checking messages and stuff. And then sometimes, do you ever kind of like swim in your bed, you know, when you just like waft your leg, you know what I mean? Just like enjoying the sheets.

Like snow angel. Yeah. Like you're doing a snow angel, but in your bed. I can't say I have ever done that, no. You should do it. Just laying back and just sort of, do you do that? So, because presumably you stay in a lot of hotels when you're gigging and stuff.

Sometimes. Do you enjoy that side of it? Yes and no. Depends where you're being put up, I suppose. Yeah, it depends where you're being put up. Yeah, it depends where you're being put up. And also, you know that thing of it takes a few days for you to... Acclimatize. Yeah, that's the word.

Yeah, yeah. To like your new surroundings. So, yeah, sometimes yeah and then sometimes no. Because do you like being, it sounds like you like your sort of creature cut, like your home comfort. Yes, I am. I like comfort. I like routine. I like, you know, yeah. This is a challenge then for a comedian. Mm hmm. That's, I think that's why, because I like being a comedian is your life is so

chaotic. You can be anywhere, like anytime and at any time of the night or day or whatever, you know, and so your days and work is really varied and because it's so chaotic, I'm quite rigid in my personal life. I like things done a certain way and all that kind of stuff. What's the thing that you're really rigid about? Oh, I just, I don't know, like loads of things. I don't know, like every time I have a shower, I have to change my bed sheets, even if it's been like... Every time you have a shower? Yeah, I have to change my bed sheets. I can't like not change them.

But does that mean, but don't you shower every day? No. Oh, really? No, I don't shower every day. Oh, right. Okay. But so it's to say like, so I showered yesterday, I'm not going to show today because I'm not mental. Do you show every day? Yeah. Oh, really? I can't. I'd say I'd say mo. Okay, this is a massive generalisation. I mean, presumably you've had this conversation with people before. No.

I'm going to say that I think most people shower every day. I think you're right. Do you use soap and everything? Yeah, I get right in there. Do you wash your hair every day as well? No. I was just... I don't like to wash my hair every day.

See, this is the problem. I can't... If I wash my body, I have to wash my hair. Why is that? I don't know. Because it feels wrong Yeah, and it would get a bit wet anyway Yeah, and sweaty and you're getting sweaty and and then the heat of the bathroom

So do you so but don't you feel like at the at the end of the day if you're not clean and then you get and then You sleep all night and then you get up in the morning. Do you not feel like oh I'm about to go out and see people and do you feel clean enough having not showered for a day and then you're getting into the second day? Is that what you mean? Yeah, yeah, I get you. If I don't feel clean enough, then I'll shower.

Like, do you know what I mean? So it's not like overall where I'm like, okay, I have to go two days regardless, or I have to go one day or whatever. It's not like that. It's just, when I feel it, okay, I have to go two days regardless, or I have to go one day or whatever. It's not like that. It's just, if I, when I feel it, I'll do it, but I don't shower every day. Um, that is really interesting. I mean, it's not that I'm sure lots of people don't, but do you, um, but you, you

change your sheets every time you shower, which is probably every other day. Yeah. That's a lot of sheet changing. Do you have many, many sheets? Or do you just, are you just always doing laundry? No, I've got loads of sheets. This is another problem. Is it like the whole bed?

Do you do the duvet and the pillows and the? No, I only do the bed sheet and the pillows. Okay. But then I don't do the cover and stuff. This is another thing, I only cover with a sheet even in the winter. Oh wow. My flat is like a bloody oven. It's so hot.

I hate it. It's nice because the bills are low and that and it's nice and cosy. Why is it so hot? I don't know. It's a new build and that they make and the but in the summer is unbearable. It can get to like 45 degrees in the house. Outside can be cooler than inside. It's just crazy.

So I'm cooking alive. Wow. Okay. So it's your perfect morning spent in bed, just scrolling on your phone, chilling. Yeah, enjoying the freshness of the sheets, the coolness of the sheets, the sun coming in and then you can see the trees as well moving in the sun. Very zen-fucking. Yeah.

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or are you having to get up and do stuff? Like what's your normal morning look like? So usually it will be sleeping, but when I like, I'll get up, I'll set my alarm for even if I've been gigging the night before for like 11. I know that you said that as if it was early, like I'm pretty good about getting up and I will get up at 11am. No, you're talking to it. 6am.

Oh my God. Every day? Almost every day. Sometimes earlier. I can't. What is, if I have to wake up at six, I lose my mind. Like sometimes I've had to get an early train or something, or, you know, like filming and it's quarter time. I'm like, I will kill everyone. Yeah, I was going to say, but you, you do a lot of filming. I mean, you've just been filming recently, haven't you? I go into this like, thing where, because, because obviously, I'm so tired and cranky

and I'm like, I'm going to kill everyone and anything and anyone. It's in my way. I'm going to kill this driver. I'm going to kill the lift. I'm going to kill everybody. And then, but then when I get on set after this thing, I'm sure you have it as well. It just clicks in and you're like, no matter how tired you are, what's going on. Yeah. When the cameras are rolling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That part of you wakes up. But then, but then this is the problem. Then you go home or the hotel or wherever you are and you go to sleep. And then I can't get to sleep because your body's used to. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard,

man. I mean, it's not really hard. Obviously, it's just acting. But people don't know how hard it is. No, people don't really. And you know, like when you're, I didn't know how hard it is. No, people don't realize. And you know, like when you're, I didn't know this until I started like filming, but you already know this, but like when people see these shots and there's two people talking to each other and they don't realize that it's filmed from both sides like three or four times. Oh yeah.

And they think. Sometimes more. Yeah. Yeah. People don't realize they think it's done. There's a camera behind you and a camera behind me and it's filming you as you're talking. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. We did that 18 times. Yeah. And we had to make it sound like we hadn't said it.

On the 18th time. All the times, in fact. And then they only used the good one, where it didn't sound like we were saying it for the 18th time. And there's like loads of crew in front of you and you have to pretend they're not there. Yes, exactly. And yeah, this is what people, they see like an intimate scene in terms of two people sitting having like a serious conversation. That's what I'm like in terms of that kind of intimacy. And then there's like 50 people. You pan out and there like 50 people sitting around that intimate conversation and a guy holding a boom mic underneath you.

Yeah. Oh my God. One time it wasn't a boom mic, but it was the mic on a stick and it was a little one. And it came out from underneath and I thought it was a mouse and I screamed and they were like, what's wrong with you? And I was like, is that a mouse? And then it turned out to be that. And I was like, I'd never seen that before. So you don't like mornings. And under normal circumstances, you're asleep, on your perfect morning, you are just lazing in bed, scrolling on your phone and it's the perfect temperature and the perfect pillows and crisp white sheets. And is there anything else that you, that any other circumstances, any other details you need to add to your perfect morning before we move on? Where are you? Are you in your home? Yeah, home in my bedroom. I think that's just like a nice soft breeze, not too, not, like

I said, not too hot, not too cut. And the curtain just like lifting slightly, it's like wafting. And you can hear like movement outside, like maybe the birds or people going about their day or stuff like that. So that just, it's almost like the world's going by and you're just sitting there watching. You know what it reminds me of? I remember when we were younger, we used to live on an estate and in the middle of the estate, so there was like a park and then the flats were all around it. And so yeah, there was a park in the middle and there was all flats around it. And I remember sometimes if I was naughty, my mum would be like, you're not going out, you're grounded or whatever. I'm like, no, it's not fair. She'd be like, go to sleep. I'm like, it's 10 o'clock in the morning. She used to always, you know,

like, so be like, go into your room. And then I would sit in my room and the window would be open and the curtain would just be flapping. I could hear all the kids, you know, the laughter of the kids from, and I'm like having to just sit there, be grounded for some nonsense. But, and so, so does, so is it sort of like that you're reclaiming that? I guess. When you were in that situation, presumably when you were being punished and just having to sit there, did you sort of enjoy it? A little bit, I think. It was not like, I used to close my eyes and just imagine playing with the kids as they

were laughing and joking. You know when you can hear like- What a sad story. The imagination is a powerful thing. Yeah. That's what you get in it. When you're naughty and your mum's like, you're not going out, I'm like, okay fine. Yeah, no phones.

Yeah, exactly. You just have to sit there. Mm-hmm. We didn't have phones till I was, mobile phones didn't come out till I was about 19, 18, something like that. So yeah, not like the kids. No, we had a computer game, but still we was out all the time. So you enjoyed transporting yourself. Are you like, do you think you've always been an imaginative person? Yeah, definitely, for sure. Because we've got a big family. I've got 13 siblings. There was a lot of the times. And I guess the time that we grew up as well,

what we just said, it wasn't like what it is now. You've got phones, everyone's got a computer game, everyone's got, you know, like there's Netflix, all that kind of stuff to keep you occupied. And we didn't have that as kids. So you were always like, in being imaginative with games, you know, like we used to make the faults at home in between, like my sister's bed was on one side, mine was on the other and we used to cover it in the middle and pretend like we were camping and stuff like that and all that kind of stuff. So you're always having to be like imaginative. Yeah. Yeah. make our own fun. But I think it's so good for you to do that.

And I think like that being taken away and I still, I feel it now as an adult that like that being bored is a good thing and sitting and doing nothing is a good thing. Because eventually that's when my kids suddenly come up with the maddest shit to do. When they come in they're like, I'm bored, I don't know what to do. I'm like, well, figure it out. Do you find yourself, how addicted to your phone are you? Very. Are you? Yeah, I wish I could throw it away.

Do you feel like it's a hindrance to you creatively? Um, yeah, cause it's a distraction. So yeah, I would say in that sense, it's just distraction. Like I've got games on my phone, like message, dating apps, all that kind of like, oh wait, let me look, and I have such issues like just replying on WhatsApp, for example, I have such, because you're so, your phone makes you so accessible, like 24 seven all the time. And I'm like, oh, and I can't always reply to people's messages and they don't understand like our kind of work schedule. They're like, they've got

normal jobs, like nine to five, they don't get it. Ours doesn't end. Do you know what I mean? I could get a message. So much work, so much work of my work, I don't know about you, takes place on WhatsApp now. Oh really? Yeah. So I feel like it's an, it's, I'm working sometimes when I'm on WhatsApp. Yes. And that my WhatsApp can fill up like an email inbox.

Yes. Now, yeah, you're right. Cause you, we contact, you know, we have contact with our agents and stuff. Do you want this get out? They're saying there's a cancellation tonight. Do you want it? And all this kind of, yeah, so you're right. You're right, actually. Actually, it's really hard for us. Again. So, okay. Was there anything else to add to your perfect morning before we move on? No, just maybe some, when I do get up, just have some lovely cold orange juice with bits in it. And ice.

You love cold ice, you love a cold ice drink. I don't know why that's so mad that you went to get ice in on a cold winter's day, but you wouldn't have. But ice in your orange juice. No, that's hilarious. My fridge is so cold. Honestly, my cans of drink, they come out like ice. Slightly frozen. You have it just at the cusp. So you just eat like chowing through frozen food out of your fridge. So is that what you have for breakfast then? Just some cold orange juice? It depends. No, not really. On your perfect morning?

Yeah, on perfect morning I have orange juice. I would love, so I'm obsessed with toast. That's why I'd like, I can't have a toast. I've got a toast, but it's still in the box. When I first moved to where I live now, my mum brought me a toast that I've never opened it. I've been living in this place for like 10 years. I've never opened it. Because I'll eat bread every day. I will have toast for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I can't. Oh, because you just love toast. So you just don't make toast? Yeah, I don't. I can't make that. You don't let yourself have the thing you love. No, I can't. Honestly, it will destroy me.

So you've just got a toaster just in your kitchen, just boxed up and you're just looking at it every day again. I can't. I'm not opening it. I should have got me the four slice one. I'm like, why are you trying to kill me? What are you doing? So yeah, my favorite is like granary toast with butter. I mean, there is nothing better than hot buttered toast. This is it. Jam?

No, just the butter. Just butter, just loads of butter. Like really good butter. Or does it not have to be that good? No, just butter, just loads of butter, like really good butter. Or does it not have to be that good? No, it should be salty. Because in Morocco, so I'm Moroccan and we have all the butter we have is like natural. So it's like the, well, I remember first time seeing it's like, it's not like it's like it's not like grows in the ground it's like Lerpac kind of you know like that real real butter right do you know what it hasn't got like additives

and all that stuff in it right it's not pasteurized no yeah okay maybe it's white it's not gone through all this like processes yes yeah and it's just so nice and it's yeah and it's white and first time I saw it, I was like, why is there a massive like, it looked like you remember those like, um, fruitela sweets, they're white, but then you bite you eat them and then they're like cherry or saying, no, if you're not, they're like, why they look, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what you mean? It was like that. I was like, why is there a massive fruitela on table? Like we can't, I can't be having this for breakfast. And why is it so big? And then I found out it was butter and I was like damn.

Okay, should we move on to your perfect afternoon? All right, so then what happens? So my perfect afternoon, this is so boring, it's crazy. Perfect afternoon. This is so boring. It's crazy. I told you I'm so rigid with my stuff. Like, okay. So I'll tell you, so like it's to go

to do like grocery shopping. Oh my God. Okay. I know this is hard. It's so. It's the simple things, man. That's what this is all about. No shame.

Whatever turns you on. Oh God., this is so old lady. But yeah, so I've got a shopping trolley. Oh, yes. And I take that with me. I know I love it. And then I do all my shopping. And I'm so shopping trolley look like it's purple and it's got a pink and black and white dots all over it. And it's two wheels with a little, I've had it for ages. It's actually broken, but I refuse to throw it away. Oh my God, I love that. It's like part of my family.

It's literally my child. This is great. So yeah, so I go shopping. And then again, I'm very particular, like with my shopping, like in, like, but I have to go through each aisle. Like even if I don't want anything, I'm like, maybe there'll be something in there that I want to have to go. That's just the ritual. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got to, yeah, yeah, I would do that.

But I always start with the heavy stuff first. So I go and get the water because I don't drink tap water because it's disgusting. Literally the flavour of it is disgusting. Yeah. Can you not taste? I can taste like... Well I can in London. Yeah, I can actually. Yeah, you can.

I can. Yeah. Every like, yeah. It does taste very different around here. Sort of metallic. Yeah. And you can taste, I don't know man. Whatever's...

The nonsense. Yeah, yeah. It hasn't all been filtered out, has it? No. Cause this is why I don't drink tap water, because I believe this is conspiracy theory coming in, because when they filter it, they only filter the bacteria. So everything else is in it. The cocaine.

Exactly. The estrogen. Exactly. Yeah. Well, they do. There is. I mean, I think that isn't a conspiracy theory. I think they did find quite, I mean, I think that isn't a conspiracy theory. I think they did find quite, I mean, not cocaine, but I think they did. They were like, how, yeah, I think it's quite difficult to filter everything.

Yes. So I'm like... Microplastics. But then it's there. That is everywhere, isn't it? Yes. Anyway. Exactly. So yeah, so get my heavy stuff like water, cans of drink, kind of like, what's the other stuff, like, you know, like, um, yeah, tins, fabrics off now, all that kind of stuff. They all go in the bottom. That's your pattern. Yeah, exactly. So I get those.

That's quite a complicated shop though, isn't it, that you've got to go. So in a dream world, perhaps on your perfect day, would the supermarket be rearranged so that the heavy items are at the front of the supermarket? Yes. They actually should do that. Yes. And then you just keep working your way through until you get to your lattices. Exactly. They should do it like an Ikea. Yeah. Oh, right. Yeah. All the way. Then when you get to the end. Yeah. The warehouse.

Yeah. Yeah. Showroom. Yeah. They should have like showrooms of sort of happy families eating meals, give you inspiration and then you get to the end of it. You just jot down Billy 5659 or whatever five, nine, whatever it is, yeah. That's a good idea. So you've done a little grocery shop. Yes.

What, all afternoon? No, so what I do is, like I'll go and do the grocery shopping. You have to make sure, for me, I do it before the kids leave school. Like not my, I don't have kids, but the school kids and then I have to see them screaming and doing madness on like the bus and in the shop and all that nonsense. So that's, and it's quiet then.

So I go in, do all my shopping and go home and then I unpack it. And then I watch afternoon television, which is like my favorite. Oh my God, I love that you call it afternoon television. Oh, it's afternoon television, but it's just like, that is definitely a ritual, isn't it? Then it's afternoon television time. Yeah. What are we talking?

Soaps. No, so like, you know, like the shows like Lingo and like, you don't know it. What's Lingo? Oh, it's so good. Like you have to... It's a quiz show? Yeah, that's it, quiz shows. Who hosts it? Adeel Ray. Okay. And it's like a letters game. You have to like, they give you a, it's like four words and then go five words and then all this. I mean, you win money. It's so good. It's so good. I'm good it's so good have you been on any of these shows? No but I want to I need to be on

there yeah you do I love all those shows are like what's it called blankety blank and gladiators I wouldn't do gladiators because I wouldn't get past the first thing. Celebrity gladiators, comedian special. Can you, first of all the pick up time will be like 6am and then Ed want me to wear light crap and drop up and down. On the basis of the pick up time alone. Bad deal, Gori's out. I can't. Oh my god, that's so brilliant. You have to do madness. Do you watch gladiators? Oh yeah, yeah, I watch it. I watch the new one. I mean, I don't watch it and think, oh, I could do that. I mean, nobody's watching that. Well, I suppose some people might be. I love the new version of it. It's great. I used to love it when I was a kid.

Yeah. It's so good. To be the staple of like Saturday Night TV. Yeah, and my kids love it as well because I think they just think it looks like a kid. Yeah. It's so good. So be the staple of Saturday Night TV. Yeah. And my kids love it as well because I think they just think it looks like a giant soft play. That's what I do. Yeah. I run around and fall over. I do that all the time. That's like me. So afternoon telly. Yeah. Your quiz shows. Yeah. And are you, is it like a little cup of tea that goes along with this or is it just, and is it like a big stretch you've got nowhere to be? Yeah. So I would buy, like when I go to the supermarket, I'll buy like some pastries and then I'll come home and I'll have a cold can of coke and my pastry.

And then I'll be sitting there watching it. Also I'll watch like lingo and then whatever's after that. They change it. You're not tipping point. I don't like tipping point. Why is it too tense? No, I just think it's boring. I don't know. It's rubbish.

Yeah. I don't really like it. It's just the arcades basically. Yeah. I'll just get down the arcades and watch it live. So sometimes I'll watch Judge Judy. Oh no way. Amazing.

I love Judge Judy. Do you shout at the telly? Yeah. Sometimes I'm like, get him Judy, get him, get him. But sometimes she is so like, I'm like, oh my God, like you didn't even let the person talk like she doesn't mess around, but I like her. She treats, she's very equal. Like she'll do like, you know, so I like her.

Oh my God. So it, so this is wonderful. Do you, is this something, this is obviously a perfect afternoon, but is this, is this quite a sort of common occurrence? Yeah, I'd say it's more common than the morning one. So you are living your perfect life quite a lot of common occurrence. Yeah, I'd say it's more common than the morning one. So you are living your perfect life quite a lot of the time. Yeah, that's why nobody messaged me during three and

six. I'm busy. Okay. You haven't replied to my WhatsApp. We all know that you don't reply to your WhatsApps and we all know it's all you do all afternoon is watch television. But that's okay because that is your prerogative. So you've watched these shows, presumably you've got, you know, on a normal day, you've got gigs coming up in the evening. You work most nights. You try and gig every night. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like when you say it back to me, I'm like, the hardest working comedian. Oh, I don't know. I just, yeah, I don't know. I just find it. I have to, not I have to, but like you have to keep your toe in the water all the time. You can't be, I'm happy to be doing like TV work as well, but I am a comedian and I need to make sure that that comedy muscle is always, always fit, match fit.

That's incredible. Do you write that way? Do you write on stage kind of thing? Is that your style? Cause I know some comedians will sit at home and write actual jokes, pen and paper. Um, some, not really, but yes and no. So I don't have those times where I'm like, okay, Monday, I'm going to sit down from two to one, two to one.

Cut me going back in time. Yeah. From like two to four and I'm going to write. Yeah. I'm just going to write, write, write. I don't have the, sometimes I'll hear something or see something or something. And then I'm like, oh, there's a joke in that. And then I'll, what I do is I text it to myself so I don't forget it. But it will be very, it will just be like, I don't know, say like, there was a dog in here doing a poo in the corner or something.

I would just put dog corner poo, Jess Napit podcast. And then, so I remember it. And then, you know, like that's it. A little memory jogger. Yeah. And then you'll hope that you can turn that in, then you'll see that and you might sit down and have a little think about it. Yeah. or something.

Build it out. Yes, or I'll go to a new material night and I'm like, oh, this happened. And I'll just tell it as it happened. Oh my God. That's so, you see, that's where the courage is, I think, that you're just like, you're basically improvising then. So what is it? Is it a story that you're, is it that you'll, you'll tell a story and you'll work out how to tell it when you're on stage? Kind, I'll just say it. I saw, I just have to say it out loud, see how it feels. It's more for me than a reaction from them, from the audience.

It's just saying it out loud in front of an audience. And then I don't know, like you're the comment, the comedian in you kicks in and then you start to pick it apart and be like, okay, this was good, this is what I'm trying, what am I trying to say here? Okay, this is what I'm trying to say. He didn't lie. I didn't say that the first time. And that's all unraveling in the moment. When you say the comedian kicks in, do you think that is a very, that's a different mind and a different mindset and almost like a different person when you're on stage, to when you're at home and you couldn't possibly recreate that brain mechanism at home anyway.

Yes, definitely. So interesting. It's definitely, because when I'm on stage, I'll be like, and I'm doing my material, what's coming out of my mouth, in my head, I'm like three, four steps in front of that. Like, cause I'm like, cause cause sometimes you'll say a joke and it won't land and I'm like, okay, then they're not going to like the next one. So I need to change here or you know what I mean? Or something like that. Or you can feel the energy in the room. Yeah. And I'm like, oh shit, I'm going to have to change course here or something, you know, saying that or, or sometimes you might hear

the comedian before you and they might do a joke that's kind of like on the similar lines to what you're doing. Oh, you're like, I can't do that bit. Yeah, I can't do that bit or they don't respond to that. So you're like, Oh, my God, they're not going to respond to my similar bit either. Oh, wow. So sometimes I'll just do it because I'm like, I'm just going to do this and see what happens. And then sometimes I'm like, oh, shit, no, I need to change it. And that's a split second thinking like,

on the slide, it's your proper just working on pure adrenaline and stuff. Once I did a work in progress, and it was one hour, and I've done many of them before with this same, that same material and I did it, it was like an hour of silence. Oh my god. I'm telling you, it was, I did an hour and I did, it was 58 minutes of silence. No! And I knew within the first 30 seconds they were going to be like that and you can't do anything like, there's nothing, because then I I'm like then I go into this mode where I just block everything out around me and for me it's just about saying

what I have written down because when you're doing a work in progress you can have your notes with you and stuff like that so for me it's just about saying it out loud and hearing it but that was tough. That was tough. And you know how one hour I was like, ugh. But yeah, that was, but I was much fit. So I was okay. How do you recover from that? You just have to get back up and do the next one. Yeah. And then you just remind yourself, like you start to pick it apart a little bit and you're like, why didn't this work? Why? And because I know some of it works because I've done other work in progressive. So I know people will laugh at this bit and that. But this is it, people don't realize the audience makes you. That's why when they say you can be,

you're only as good as your last, what's that saying? Your last piece of work. Yeah. And so like, and it's true. Yeah, because they make you. You can do, I can do the same gig, the same material on a different night and die. And then I can do it the next night and absolutely smash the room. So you've always got to like, that's why I'm always humble, always on my... Yeah, and in that sense, it's not personal, I suppose. Yes, exactly. Sort of it is, and it is very personal, but it also completely isn't if you can do the same thing

and have two completely different reactions. Yeah, because it's subjective, isn't art is subjective. So it just depends on the people you have in the room and all that. So. All right, Fatia. Yes, bruv. Let's move on. Yeah.

To your perfect night. Honestly, this is my perfect night and I do this often. So I like to, we have this thing, like North Africans, Arabs, Middle Eastern people, we have this thing called like, it's like incense kind of. But not, you have this like, I would say a bowl, but you have like this kind of like structure. Yeah. And then you put a coal in it, and then you put this hud on top of it, and hud is like an oil, but it's not an oil, it won't be an oil form. It's in like, I think it's original form is this. It's like, um, is it like a resin? Yeah, like that. Yeah. And then you put it on and then Nicole

like heats it up and you get all this billowing like smoke and it smells so beautiful, like so lovely. So I've got that at home and then've got it's so expensive as well the original like ouds and masks and stuff like that. Oh yes! It smells so good. Yeah I think I know this smell. It's so lovely. I know this smell. I met someone who was wearing something and I was like what is that? It's like woody. Yeah. It's so nice. Yeah. And it's called Poo. Did you say Poo? Poo.

Oh. Poo. Oh, right. You're gonna say it's Poo. That's what it sounds like Poo. But it's Poo. Okay. It sounds like Poo but it's Poo.

Right, right, right. Lingo, honey. Lingo. So what environment are you in? Oh, so I'll be in my front room. And then I've got one that's the original will have smoke. And then I've got one that's non smokey as well. So I put it in this thing and then you spit like, you know, like when you do oil burning,

and then I put a candle underneath and then I put the resin thing on top and then the metal heats up and then it starts to leave like a lovely smell. Oh wow. And it's smokeless. So I have that and then the thing that it's in has like little shapes cut out around it so you get these lovely little light reflections on the ceiling and that is so nice. And is this like an evening ritual for you? God, this is absolutely lovely.

I'm telling you, I do that. I just really love it. I love the light reflection. Sometimes I'll put it on in my bed. I've got like two of those burner things. And sometimes I'll put it on in the bedroom before I go to sleep. And then it just leaves a lovely smell on them, the lights.

And then I turn all the lights off and I'm on my phone. Just the blue glow from my screen, just lighting up the room, so relaxing. His bloody phone's a nightmare. And then what I like to do is, so like on the BBC, right, they do the other evening, right? I don't know what evenings, but I always managed to find them. They do these like concerts and they're like 100 best love songs of all time. So then I put that on and then I just dance in my front room with a tea towel. Do you mean the ones where they're like they've put together different Like because I think I was watching some over Christmas and it was like best covers Yeah, like a bit from from top of the pops in the 1970s and then they'll be like an I don't know like an Abbey Road

Yeah, like a royal philharmonic or something. Yeah, yeah, and it's like a Medley yeah, I know exactly the ones you're talking about. I love them. Incredible. Yeah. Absolutely incredible. Saved Christmas actually for us. Saved it.

I love it. So I put it on over evening and sometimes it could be like two in the morning. It might be after a gig or something. And I'll be like there with my tea towel in the air singing from my heart. What's your like, what's a dream song that could be playing or an artist that you would love to see? So like, obviously when they do Coldplay, those are like wicked. Coldplay is like the best.

Such a great live band. They are so... I know they played. We'll give them a hard time, but they're just great artists, great live performers. Exactly. One of my favorite ones was like Phyllis Nelson, Move Closer. Do you know that? Move closer.

Oh yeah. Move your body real close. Oh my God. I love that. Yeah. You've got an image of Phyllis Nelson. Honestly, I'm like with my tea towel. Like sometimes I use my remote controllers as a mic and stuff, you know, it depends on the song in it or like shaw day. Do you remember shaw? Like, yeah, classic. Yeah. so good and like, yeah.

So you do, what's been amazing is how much of your perfect day is your real life. Yeah. You, so you have a pretty perfect life. Not really. I just find pleasure in little things. Do you know what I mean? It's all about. I love like, I love things like, you know, terraniums and that.

I know they're like some shoreditch middle-class nonsense, but I love them. They look great. Have you got a light? I'm going to get one. I'm writing a book and when I finish writing, I'm doing a children's book. When I finished in, I'm buying a terranium. Yeah. Oh my God.

Brilliant. We've got one last question. Yes. Which is, what is a piece of perfection that you'd recommend this week? Okay. Okay. I got it. I got it. Okay. So have you ever had a San Sebastian cheesecake? Is that the same as a Basque cheesecake? I have. I have. They are amazing. My friend, Eleanor, shout out Eleanor Tom, makes the most incredible Basque cheesecake. It's something else. Do you buy them or make them?

No, buy them. From? They're like, well, there's a shop not too far. So I live in Beffin or Green and there's a shop in Wycheapole called Mehmet Effendi. I think it's a Turkish shop. It's a dessert shop. There's only like two in London at the moment. I can't even finish the whole cheesecake. Did you not find?

Because it's like mousse. It's really thick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really thick and rich and delicious. Oh yeah. But it's amazing, man. I've never tasted something so good. I'm like, damn, damn, damn, damn. So I would recommend that.

San Sebastian cheesecake from say it again. Meh Meh Fendi. In Whitechapel, East London only. Sorry guys. Also look out for recipes online, make them yourself. And loads of shops sell them, you can get all everywhere you can get, but you have to get a fresh one. Oh my god they're so good. They melt, it just melts. Me too. I might get one. All right let's go, let's go get some cheesecake.attia, thank you so much for coming on Perfect Day. Thank you for having me.

Perfect. On reflection, I think Fattia's Perfect Day really is just a day off. And I do have to agree with her there. Thank you, Fattia, for coming along despite being just over a cold. And I love that you live parts of your perfect day every single day. As we all should. That's the point. Have a laboured the point enough. And please, please unpack that toaster. Fattier, don't deprive yourself of the toast joy any longer. To everyone else, if you've got something packed in your kitchen, unpack it. Just unpack

it. Unless you're sending it back. I'd love to know, do you shower daily? Again, I could Google it, but I'd much rather survey the people. Stay tuned for more Perfect Days to come and remember to like and subscribe and leave us a review if it's nice. Make sure to follow us on our Perfect Day cast for all your Perfect Day news. From Yorkshire with love, I'm Jessica Knappett, wishing you a perfect day. Oh, I'm dying today