PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Bryce Huff, Zack Baun and the things we were wrong about for the 2024 Philadelphia Eagles

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

It’s extremely rare that Bo Wulf or Zach Berman is ever wrong about anything, but it does happen occasionally. Today is a day to reflect on that, from Zack Baun’s short shelf-life at linebacker to... Bryce Huff’s breakout season and much more, we’re here to come clean. Don’t worry, we’ll pay ourselves on the back plenty too, from Tyler Steen’s status as right guard to Jahan Datson’s impact and more.Join the guys for a fun look in the mirror. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everybody and welcome to the P.HLY Eagles podcast presented by Bet365. Download the Bet365 app and use code PHLY 365. When you sign up, whatever the moment, it's never ordinary. And Bet365, welcome to the show on a Tuesday, 2 o'clock, Bo-Wolf, Zach Berman, all kinds of sickos in the chat. I see Fran Duffy. I see Claire. I see Matt. I see Phil. It's a community here. We're building. But we don't really want too much. any new people. We just want to sort of bunker in with our people. That's how I feel. How you doing, Zach? I disagree wholeheartedly. I welcome.
Starting point is 00:00:38 I want to grow this audience. No, no. I want to grow this audience. Growth brings riff-rath. No. We don't want that. We work so hard. We want more people to enjoy the fun of the show, the information of the show, and to
Starting point is 00:00:53 be better informed and better entertained. Better informed, better entertained. Now, we're going to do a little, we get the mini buy. That means there's a little. extra time to talk. We can take a bit of a step back more so than we usually get to do in the flow of a game week. Every week is a season, as you like to say. And though we did talk to the coordinators today, we will hear a little bit about that in a minute. And we want to get to the Joe Douglas news, which is interesting. We'll unpack that later. What we want to do is do a little
Starting point is 00:01:20 bit of introspection, some of the things that we thought about this team coming into the season that we were right about, some of the things that we were wrong about. And I, I, I know that you know, for me, this is very rare. I mean. I do know that about you, yes. It was hard for me. We have three right, three wrong. It's hard for me to come up with three things I was wrong about.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I mean, I'm stretching it, really. There's really like one. For me, there was a bunch of things that I say, I wish I was better informed there, I wish I got that correct. So I actually had the opposite experience, but I believe very much in introspection. I do it often. Yes. You do like to rake yourself over the coals quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:02:00 That's the only way to get better, right? I disagree with that. That's not the only way to get better. You see, you're more like jailing. You like the flush performances, right? Uh, maybe. I think that's accurate. I think, you know, whether it shows good, whether it shows bad, there's another show the next day.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Well, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. And it keeps me up at night. Yeah, but you don't then balance the hand wringing out with appreciating the things that have gone well. No, you know what? I think all I think you need to accept. I think you need to, you'd be kinder to yourself on the wins. Yeah, I remember covering a Virginia Boston college basketball game. We all remember that game. It was up in, it was up in Chesa Hill, Massachusetts,
Starting point is 00:02:43 and Tony Bennett's talking after the game and I remember someone tried bringing up a question about like the effort that the team was playing with. And Tony shot back. Well, he's a very respectful man. He didn't shoot back, but he pushed back on the question essentially saying efforts to price of admission. You don't get on the court without effort, right? So there's no applauding effort. And I'm not just talking about effort. And so I, yeah. You have plenty of opportunities to celebrate some wins for yourself. No. And so, I mean, even growing up, like, you don't, you don't get credit for doing what you're supposed to do. So. Yeah, but those are not the same things. Anyways, let's let's let's get on to the Eagles. If you're, if you're, if you're killing yourself with two hours of
Starting point is 00:03:29 sleep on the whoop ring every night. You got to at least be happy about something that you've done. You combine the whoop ring and the aura ring. Or the Uphan and the Uy. Yeah, they're all nonsense. They're not, but this is science.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I've been trying to do something. Are you a science denier? I've been trying to do something, Zach. Are we getting to that? You're denying science? Where I've been trying to keep a running list of for your purposes
Starting point is 00:03:50 and for my purposes, all of the technological advances over the past, like my lifetime that I think have unequivocally done good. And so far I'm at one. That is such a pessimistic.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Maybe too, depending on how much you like the tap on the credit card. I do like the tap on the credit card. It's such a pessimistic view of society. There's so many things every day that makes our life better, easier. Yeah, but there are lots of tradeoffs to those things.
Starting point is 00:04:19 So far I have one thing. What's the one thing? The rear view camera when you're backing up on a car. That's the only thing. Yes. And you see to me, like you already had a rear view mirror.
Starting point is 00:04:30 That's just, but okay, I suppose so. Yeah, but for safety purposes, that's huge. I mean, what about smartphones? What about the ability? Yeah, yeah, your big example the other day was we weren't able to react to like a text message. No, I'm saying. I'm saying what about like you're walking down the street and or you're walking in Philly and you don't know your way and you can just put the, you just put the address in the Google Maps. tell you exactly how to get there.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah, that's okay. What about the ability? But people found ways to get around before that. What about like back, you know, in, if you wanted to know what your homework was in high school, you had to call someone up, right? Now you can just, you can just look on, you know, everything's there. You can text. That's your number two example?
Starting point is 00:05:21 No, I'm saying. It's not hard to have a syllabus. Text messaging. Finding everything. Do you remember like the, I? I don't know. We don't need to... I'm setting aside, like, actual medical improvements. Those things, I mean, we're not, of course.
Starting point is 00:05:36 How about the fact that we have a show that's on YouTube that people can watch on their computer screens that they can listen to on their phones? I'm glad we have that. I'm glad to get paid for that. But I don't know that it's a good thing that so many people have to be subjected to me for this much. That they can listen to on their phones. Like, what about the fact that our... We would have found other ways. We put food on the table based on technology and based on new technologies.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah, but I'm just saying, I don't know if that's a... I don't know if that's an unequivocal good. No, I think I love technology. Technology. Yeah, we know you love technology. Yeah. And I also think. Feel free, please.
Starting point is 00:06:09 In the chat, let me know if there's anything else I can add to this list, because right now I've just got there, the rearview camera. And maybe the tap on the credit card. And I didn't take you for so anti-science. It's not science. The measure the amount of sleep you had, the measure your heart rate when you sleep. It's a little pseudoscience. pseudoscience
Starting point is 00:06:29 it's not pseudoscience this is literally you don't need to drink like canyons with the water every day you should know why I would say water is very beneficial for your body now the actual volume of water
Starting point is 00:06:42 could be debated but you need to hydrate yourself it's good for yourself a little bit of water it's good for your organs it's good for your brain NFL Red Zone not a bad answer
Starting point is 00:06:50 Matt although you know there's a bit of a push pull there like are we overvaluing fantasy You know, the actual benefit of it is just going right to the billionaires' pockets. Is that worthwhile for us?
Starting point is 00:07:03 But, yeah, I mean, it certainly makes the viewing experience easier for... We've already gone away on a tangent. I just don't know how you have such a pessimistic view of everything, it seems like. That's not everything. If the only benefit of technology is the rear view camera. I mean, an absolute marvel. Fantastic. Yeah, but I'm saying that's the only benefit.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Yeah We are Julia what's your what's your favorite piece of technology You got anything that comes to mind I don't even really use the rear of your mirror So that doesn't really do it for me But I would say If this is going to sound really nerdy
Starting point is 00:07:40 But like live streaming equipment And like music Although I do appreciate a record So yeah Okay I have a quick answer So far I'm unmoved I have a quick answer about
Starting point is 00:07:53 Rearview mirrors And I don't apply I remember this story from Bob Huggins. Ripped his off. Says, I don't like to look in the past. Yeah, he was talking about growing up, and he got into a truck, and there was no mirror, and the person said, said, we're not going backwards. And, yeah, it was his analogy for how West Virginia should play, or think.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Now, somebody brings up air conditioning, but air conditioning was around before I was born. So I can't. That's not within my lifetime. The Eagles. Air conditioning is good. Let's discuss the Eagles. Well, first we have a super chat and Chase Daniel Plainview, and this is an Eagles question for him.
Starting point is 00:08:31 He says on Sequin's two touchdown runs, why didn't he slide at the one to set up Jalen for a tush-bush? Does Seekoine not want the children of Philly to get air conditioning in their schools? Interesting you bring this up, Chase Daniel Plainview, because Zach has a very specific answer for just this question. Yeah, I have a story up now on Sequin Barkley and the Brotherly shove push push quarterback sneak Snoopy however you want to frame it
Starting point is 00:08:59 I would be diehard yeah I would recommend reading that on all phtly.com and interestingly with that I didn't I forgot about this until I went through the numbers Seguan's had four carries at the one in the two yard line this year he's only scored
Starting point is 00:09:14 on one of them I asked Nick Siriani specifically about this after the show yesterday and Nick I thought gave an honest answer he said like yeah you know sometimes you want to get in the ball but The quarterback sneak, it's hard to have a negative play on a quarterback sneak. Yeah, I find this logic very circular from Nick on the negative play stuff, but go ahead. And so you're trying to, it's just more efficient, right?
Starting point is 00:09:37 And Sequin this year, he's had, of those four carries, one was a loss, one was a touchdown, one was one yard, one was no game. Mm-hmm. So. And then you were, and then speaking of self-flagellation, you were upset with yourself for not knowing off top of your head. How many rushing touchdowns Jalen Hertz has? I was upset about that. I should have. I should have written this story. So I should have written the story. You shouldn't have. You didn't. Yeah. So it's fine. He has 11 touchdowns. It's okay. Sequin has eight rushing touchdowns, uh, two receiving touchdowns. But, um, yeah, I mean, Seekwan in his career,
Starting point is 00:10:13 I have all the numbers in in, in his career. To answer your question, by the way, I appreciate, uh, Chase Daniel from playing of you helping, um, subsidize P. Uh, and there is a tie in. I feel like, I feel like boxers technology has actually got a lot. Boxers have gotten a lot better over the course of my lifetime. In what respect? Like boxer briefs. Yeah, they're more comfortable now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:35 There you go. I don't know if that's quite technology. So you think like the mesh material or the... It's pretty good. Okay, it's more breathable. Yeah. More pliable. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Okay. Yeah. There you go. I don't know. I don't know if that's quite technology. You're really... searching for, yeah, come on. Yeah, I think we can agree the internet has been a net negative.
Starting point is 00:10:59 No, right. The internet's, no, the internet's been. I mean, maybe for a nice little slice of time it was good, but now it's a disaster. Are you kidding me? No. Yeah, it's awful. Are you kidding me? It's terrible.
Starting point is 00:11:13 The internet is amazing. Yeah, think of all the misinformation that can be out there. Think of all the information that's out there. Oh, how can you figure out what's what? And think of the access to information. Think of, you know, come on. Like, this is such an antiquated view of society. It's such a pessimistic view of society.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Don't be so naive. I don't know who's the naive one here. Any in any respect, Sequin Barkley, the question, Joan Hertz for every touchdown he scores this year, he is donating to the air conditioning in Philadelphia schools. He's already hit the $100,000 threshold. He's trying to fund air conditioning for more schools now in the Philadelphia School District. He was on Good Morning America this morning.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And yeah, so every time Sequin stopped at the one and Jailen pushes it in, it's $5,000 out of Jalans' pocket and then more if some other people donate. But Sequin, his eight rushing touchdowns have typically come from farther out than that. He's not going to stop short of the goal line. He does like to score. He made that clear. He wants the touchdown. But he also likes the brotherly shove, and he explained that he likes the brotherly shove because of like the symbolism of the play. It's man on man.
Starting point is 00:12:33 There's a certain toughness that comes, you know, they're trying to stop you. You're trying to, you know, and so he thinks that there's a certain attitude that comes from that play. You know they're running it. You've got to try to stop it. And the cool thing about the mic'd up segments is that you kind of see like, all right, he's true to his word. Sure. He was against the Giants. He was calling for the Brotherly shove.
Starting point is 00:12:55 He said, I already got mine, right? And then I have the transcript here from, you know, Jason Kelsey, that podcast back in March, Jason specifically said to him, man, don't get stopped at the one, right? Because he said, Jason said he used to apologize in the huddle to the Andre Swift and to Miles Sanders. So anyways, you can check that out on all phtel.com. An absolute elite sicko callback in the chat from Ryan who says, hold on a second. Wasn't calling girls to ask for what the homework was,
Starting point is 00:13:26 your big move in middle school? It wasn't my move. No, no, no, I didn't have a, it wasn't a move. I mean, it definitely wasn't a move. That's not. It was absolutely a move. It wasn't a move. I'm putting 99 turkeys on you still remembering
Starting point is 00:13:40 Julia's phone number from childhood. Yeah, I probably do. But that wasn't a move. Julian and I spoke more on Instant Messenger actually than on the phone. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, A, that's my best game for sure. You're good. I bet you.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I bet you're a creative. Yeah, luckily I didn't have to update it since then. So back, so I'm one of six kids and we had one computer. Oh, yes. So, yeah, we would like have to allocate time. Philly boy, five. Four boy six. There's six kids in my family.
Starting point is 00:14:16 But we would split it. So like the hours from like six to eight or seven to eight, that that was when like you wanted to be on it you get half an hour age and Matt and like Matt would hoggett classic Matt yeah exactly what about Josh uh Josh wasn't as much into the instant messenger it was more Matt myself and Alex yeah but Alex was the youngest was the younger one but I wanted to you know I I wanted to use the instant messenger anyways for so off course here yeah I actually back to the the negative thing that that Nick talked about yesterday, like how you don't want to lose yards. I find that to be an actually an interesting peek into the way that he looks at games
Starting point is 00:15:01 where it's so much about trying to avoid the worst case scenario as opposed to doing the best thing that you can to chase the best case scenario. I think that sort of is a through line in the way that he coaches. That's a good point, right? He wants to... It's like at the end of the first half. They've got first and goal from the nine. They run it twice, and then they have the sack on third down when the two guys run into each other on the mesh play. Like, yeah, okay, you didn't lose yards on first and second down, but then you put yourself in a got-a-havit situation on third down when if you had tried to pass it one of those other two times, you probably had a better chance to score a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah, I mean, I'm not violating confidence here. Like in Nick's office, there's a sign. If you saw a Pat McAfee show last week, you saw the sign. and in that Nick there's a there's a sign in there that like the team that makes the fewest mistakes like fortune you know favors the team that makes the fewest mistakes
Starting point is 00:15:58 or something of that nature and yeah he's yeah he's very much oriented in avoiding mysterious here it's I actually pulled it up right in front of me here and it is I actually can't fully see here but but essentially the team that makes a fewer mistakes wins the game and and he he very much wants
Starting point is 00:16:21 to avoid the mistakes as as opposed to the potential benefit of it now i did find it interesting in terms of like saquan's career number and shout out to true media we can you know we can look up all this stuff um and you you see like in in berkeley's career he's had 18 carries from the one yard line he scored touchdown on nine of those plays so he's 50% from the one yard line in in his career The quarterback sneak has been more efficient than that. Yeah, that's fair. There you go. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I want to start with your first? You want to go something you were wrong about? Yeah. I would rather start with things I'm wrong about. No, because you can learn from what you're wrong about. You want to go one wrong, one right, one right? Or do you want to just, you want to flagellate, flagellate, flagellate, and then maybe congratulate yourself at the end. I'll defer to you there.
Starting point is 00:17:10 What do you think? Let's do one. Let's do it. Ping pong, back and forth. You wrong, me wrong. You write, me right. Yeah, I was wrong about Quinyan. I thought Quignon was going to be good.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I didn't think he was going to be this good. And I think I said that Nate Wiggins was going to have a better rookie season than Quigion Mitchell. I believe he did. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, Quineon Mitchell is playing at a Pro Bowl level. He is a he's been a legitimate number one, not just a starting caliber cornerback, a legitimate number one.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I liked him coming out. I know there's a YouTube short of us talking about how it would be unlike the Eagles to trade up for him and I still stand by that. And by the way, they didn't trade up for him because I said the profile is atypical for them in terms of a smaller school player who's a, you know, senior, he's on the older end. There's more projection to his game. I really liked like what I saw at, you know, at Toledo. I certainly liked the athletic testing, but I did not know how he was going to project. And even during the summer, I found it a little concerning that he wasn't taking those snaps on the outside that it was more Isaiah Rogers and Keeley Ringo and he was playing almost exclusively
Starting point is 00:18:17 in the slot for the periods of times that we watch practice and I also said that I like terrian Arnold's profile a little bit better than quinion Mitchell and now I will own up to that one I was wrong like quinion's been outstanding I like the way he's wired I love the way he plays everything you hear behind the scenes in terms of like the type of worker he is the type of learner he is the type of just like a football player he is. And then you're just, you're seeing the results. And we, the evidence backs it up. Like, quarterbacks aren't throwing his side.
Starting point is 00:18:53 So I am beyond impressed by Quinnia Mitchell and I did not expect him to be this good. Well, this is interesting because you're, you're now going to make me go with one that I was right about. And now what I have done is I have, I have bucketed these into three different things. There are things that I tried to follow the data that I was wrong about, that I was right about things that I was sort of reading tea leaves on that I was wrong about that I was right about and then some things where I was just trusting my eyes that I was wrong about and that I was right about and relative to Quinionette Mitchell if we go back to the draft I did I had Terry on Arnold
Starting point is 00:19:25 like a little just a slight tick above I thought you know slightly younger yeah I'll take that for with the with the with the same pedigree all that stuff but when we got to training camp and you can see it like I did the ranking one to whatever you know 85 or whatever number one was quinion Mitchell. To me, he was the star of training camp, him and Jalen Carter. It was apparent right away that he belonged. And even though he was spending so much time in the nickel, you saw like the willingness to be physical. He was not missing a beat. You saw the speed. And so for me, that's one of the things that I feel like I was right about because my eyes told me, wow, like this guy's awesome. And we said it at the end of camp. Like as much as Isaiah Rogers and Keelor Ringo
Starting point is 00:20:05 were getting snaps outside, I said, I wouldn't be surprised if Queenette Mitchell starting outside in week one. Now, who knows if the Isaiah Rogers hand injury is the reason for that. But to me, it was very clear early on. And I didn't think he was going to be this good right away, but I thought he was going to be a big part of the defense as a rookie. On August 15th, when he's taking most of his time in the slot, what was your perception of that? That Vic Fangio likes this guy so much, he wants to find a way to get him on the field. Then he has earned that. And I mean, I think, I think he would have been playing week one, matter what. Yeah. No, you're right. They clearly wanted them on the field. Did, did you think that
Starting point is 00:20:46 being this good was in the was in the realm of possibility? I mean, I guess like a 95th percentile outcome, but yeah, I wasn't expecting him to be to be quite this good. Now I also think there's a little bit of like the narrative is catching up to what's been the case most of the season. Like in this game in particular against Washington, as, as Fran told us, there was a lot of zone. Like it wasn't quite like him just locking down Terry McLaurin snap to snap. Um, I think there's a little bit of like the lagging stuff going on. But on the balance of the season, he's been awesome. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Yeah. All right. Should we get to ads and then go to more? Let's take a little break and then I'll tell you something that was wrong about. Although, I may not get there. There's not that much to pick from. Coming back after this. Now, here's one thing.
Starting point is 00:21:35 We all hate technology, right? It's ridiculous. It has made our lives worse in so many ways. but one of the ways that you can fight against just the like the unceasing barrage of technology in your lives and pulling all these things away from you is a slight bit of technology that's going to help you. So what I'm talking about is Rocket Money. Okay. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps find.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Am I, do you have the wrong one? Yeah, but the other one, the one you want to talk about is also technology. Yes. Should we give, I mean, we do still love Rocket Money. This is also a technology. This is from yesterday. See, you know what? The laptop's not even helping me out.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah, it's a laptop's fault here, bro. Yeah. Let's talk about game time. I actually, you know what? This is a real benefit of technology. Because back in the olden days, if you wanted to go to a ball game, you'd have to just go to the stadium. and buy your tickets. Now you can check out your GameTime app
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Starting point is 00:25:07 Let's take a look at who is heating up or cooling off with our Ace Hardware. temperature check, visit Ace Hardware Home Services online at www.W.W.A.Hardware homeservices.com to get started on your next project. I don't know if you want to say things have totally cooled off or gotten fully on fire. Which way you want to take this, Zach, but Joe Douglas, days are over. Cooked in New York. Yeah, you know what? And I mean, I covered Joe Douglas here. I wrote a big feature on Joe Douglas on The Inquirer. I think Joe Douglas is a good football mind. I don't think he has, and I think he's a very nice guy too. I don't think he's done enough with the Jets to keep that job.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And the reason I say that, honestly, is because six seasons, there are no playoff appearances in their six years. He missed, you know, he missed on the quarterback. Twice? Yeah, he missed on the draft pick, then he missed on the signing. And I know there was an injury last year, but still. And then he has made a number of really good. picks. I mean, Garrett Wilson, Breeze Hall, you know, Jermaine Johnson, they've, they've, Will
Starting point is 00:26:16 McDonald, they've. La Javreira Tucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they've, you know, I like to pick this year for Shano, but. Mackay-Becton. Yeah, McCoy-Becton was his pick and then it worked out and then he's here. But yeah, I, I look at it overall that this is, you go, Sals Gardner, although Sals Gardner is having an inconsistent year. This is, yeah, this is, this, this makes sense to me. You're GM for six years. Your team doesn't make the postseason. I feel like that division got worse during his time there, right? Tom, Brady left. There was an opportunity. Come on, Tom. Yeah. I think he, I think some of his signings, you know, didn't work. He, he pushed the chips in the table for Aaron Rogers,
Starting point is 00:27:03 and it clearly has not worked. And the Zach Wilson pick at number two overall clearly did not work. So When you look at it, yeah, I mean, I think that this goes to sometimes it's not all about the drafting and kind of the talent eye. It's putting the team together. And you have to hit on quarterback. You have to hit on head coach. You know, he hired Sala. Robert Sala didn't work. My only thing is, and the balance of his record is that he probably doesn't deserve to keep his job.
Starting point is 00:27:37 It's been six years. It hasn't been good enough. there is a little bit of silliness to cleaning house when Joe Douglas is barely the general manager and has not really been the general manager of the team since the day they brought Aaron Rogers here or there
Starting point is 00:27:51 right like Aaron Rogers is making or pushing the chips in favor of every decision they're making on offense yeah I think even beyond off it like I think this is Aaron Rogers show they have handed over the organization to him it's all it's all on him for the current state of stuff
Starting point is 00:28:09 stuff. Yeah. Joe Douglas brought in some good players. They're going to, I don't even think the timing is that crazy because you get a head start on it now. Yeah. And he was actually the last year. The trade deadline is passed.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Like, so there's nothing he can do anyway. I think that's all fine. But like, yeah, this continued scapegoating of different people when Aaron Rogers is the one in charge is, is just a little bit silly. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:31 but I would say he invited that. Like he now, oh, sure. Now whether that was Woody John, you know, when you're in GM, you work for somebody. Right. But still, they had to go get Aaron Rogers because Zach Wilson didn't work out. Right. And yeah, they, look, I mean, six years. I imagine he would tell you that if he's being honest. Now,
Starting point is 00:28:52 You think there's a chance he comes back to Philly? Yeah, now, I know he's highly respected in the Eagles building and the Ravens building. Now, the Eagles have an infrastructure in place now with Al Calbi as an assistant GM. John Ferrari as an assistant GM. So if he were to come back, my guess is it would probably be in like a senior advisor role. I don't think they would put someone in over Halby or Ferrari at this point. I would be pretty surprised. I would, I could see like a because, you know, like the, the,
Starting point is 00:29:22 hiring cycles now are post-draft. I could see like he comes in as an extra eyes for the draft before the draft and then he finds where he's actually going to land. Yeah. No, I mean, he's close with the Chargers, GM, Joe Hortiz. So there's a number, you know, and look, the, I think that the draft track record is really strong or is for the most part strong.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I, you know, especially compared to some other teams during the span. And when I've been reading like the social media coverage of the, of the Definitely not negative. A lot of people are pointing to the draft picks. But the overall record of the team and the quarterback situation has been problematic. And the head coach and the coaching situation, there's no defense to that. And that the job is more than just picking players. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Now that will do it for your ACE hardware temperature check, www. ACE HardwareHomeservices.com. By the way, I would also say, this similar you know because you said the timing of it it's like i'm watching these dug peterson press conferences in jacksville and it's like uh if you're gonna fire the guy fired the guy right i i never understand the point of like just keeping a guy there as an empty suit for the rest of the year i hear the argument sometimes like uh in-season firings don't work the jets what's your what's your jeffre larry line once you decide something must be must be done eventually
Starting point is 00:30:50 it should be done immediately that's not jeffre lorry line Yes, it's Jeremy Foley. You know who Jeremy Foley is? Jeremy Foley, ESPN. No. Jeremy Foley is the former athletic director at the University of Florida. Jeremy Schap. Jeremy Schap is that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Jeremy Fowler. Two totally different people. Jeremy Roanick. You're just mentioning Jeremy's now, yes. Jeremy spoke. Yeah. Who's Jeremy spoke? Jeremy spoke.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Who's Jeremy spoke? Am I supposed to know that? my future brother it's gonna have a nice off the rails you and me show during the season this is like an overall off season show vibe
Starting point is 00:31:29 my future brother-in-law's name is Jeremy much he's my favorite Jeremy oh sweet greens Jeremy I mean uh athletic greens Jeremy I thought of green's Jeremy sweet green is Jeremy I was like uh
Starting point is 00:31:40 sure he likes salad I suppose yes Jeremy's salad that's a good yeah Jeremy Macklin uh Jeremy Maclin's an underrated player during the past 25 years I always enjoyed
Starting point is 00:31:50 uh he was my first Sunday story at the Enquirer. Nice. Speaking of anti-technology. Where's this going? This Apple commercial? Which one? Where the wife uses the Apple AI
Starting point is 00:32:06 to create a slideshow for her husband because she didn't think of a birthday present for him. The worst commercial I have ever seen. I mean, we are celebrating this woman's negligence as if, oh, look at this, I have fooled my husband into thinking I love him. I am the winner of the day. Get the hell out of here. Perhaps people find it relatable, right?
Starting point is 00:32:33 Drop that woman like a bad habit. Wow. Ridiculous. Oh, my kids, my stupid kids created this really thoughtful present for their dad. I am so jealous. Oh, let me pretend like I did something. oh, thank you AI for faking my love in a marriage. The hell out of here.
Starting point is 00:32:55 That's what Apple, that's the message Apple wants to sell us, is that with Apple you can pretend like your relationships matter? I'm a big fan of Apple, so I, I, um, the advertiser, I actually haven't seen that ad, but. Really? It's on like every football game. It was on, I was watching Red Zone this past weekend. Well, not on a red zone.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Yeah. So then, and then the Sunday night and the Monday night, I've been watching when I've been working, so I'm not watching the commercials. The S-eating look on that woman's face when she drops it, like, oh, yeah, I really, I really, really fooled that Jamoke. Gosh, you were so anti. I mean, you have an Apple computer.
Starting point is 00:33:47 You have an Apple phone. I have no choice. Sure, you do. definitely have a choice. I mean, there are many different types of computers. There are a number of different types of phones. You're choosing that because you believe in the quality of the product. That's debatable.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I mean, it's so ubiquitous. I don't, you know, I don't want to be the green bubble man. Derek Barnard doesn't have Apple products. Stronger man than me. I have Apple products because I believe in their company. You believe in their company.
Starting point is 00:34:19 That's such an outrageous take. They have great product. Yeah, that's fine. It's not like you believe in the, I believe in the leadership with the company. Like, give me a break. Well, I actually think Tim Cook's done a good job there. But, um, great. We don't have to go down that rabbit hole.
Starting point is 00:34:38 All right. Anyways, back to here. I gave you, I gave you who my eyes were right about. Yeah. Here's who my eyes were wrong about. Yeah. And this is one where you can balance it out by saying you were right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I was a, I was just a little. bit skeptical because, and this is, this goes to running back, they're difficult in training camp because they're, they're not running. I thought Sequin looked fine in training camp. I didn't think he looked special this summer. And I was a little bit skeptical that like the investment in Sequin was going to look like it paid off. I mean, he's still got to stay healthy through next year to really make a payoff. But I was, I was absolutely underselling the possibility that he was going to look completely different in this offense. And it's, I mean, it's every game it's he has runs that like i'm just wow it's it's it's really impressive and it's
Starting point is 00:35:26 not just like the efficiency and the the fact that they're one of the best running teams in football and they've changed their identity because of it just like the aesthetics of it he is so fun to watch and that this is the nice thing about even when i'm wrong it just means i was right earlier because me being wrong about this a little bit really just circles back to my opinion in 2022 that what would happen if the seagulls offense had a real real running back how special could they be turns out that was right i just had forgotten about it okay uh you're funny uh i i did i did want to follow up on something you you said in there you think he has to be good next year for this for this to pay off you don't think like if he's outstanding this year
Starting point is 00:36:09 if he's like i think if he's outstanding this year that pays for itself you essentially you you strap yourself on the two years of him and if for one of those years he's perhaps the best running back in football, to me, that that pays for itself. I think you're probably right, but I think there's, I think it depends. Like, I mean, I think if, uh, if they, if they crash out in the first round and then he gets injured in training camp and doesn't play all season next year, then I print on balance. It probably wasn't worth it. But, but I think you're right that you were paying for special.
Starting point is 00:36:44 And he has, he has been special this year, no doubt about it. Uh, yeah. So my number one on this list is I was right about Seekwuan. in the sense, no, I mean, it's not like saying much there. I thought that he was an elite running back. I said he's an A player, and they're playing an A player A money. That was the line I used back in March. I thought he was an upgrade over DeAndre Swift and Miles Sanders.
Starting point is 00:37:10 And Miles Sanders and DeAndre Swift were both very productive here. And I thought that if you take the production that they had, and you looked at the production Saquan Barclay had in an environment that was not nearly as controlled. for running back success, I thought that it would just raise the entire level. And that's exactly what's happened. Now, I thought that he would be the beneficiary more of like the passing game than I didn't expect him to carry this thing. But he's been awesome.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And I can also say, too, from what I've heard, he's been like great behind the scenes too. Yeah, I thought the nugget you had from Lane after the game was very interesting. And I think it's noteworthy too because, look, this hasn't always worked out that you bring in a high profile player. And sometimes these guys struggle to assimilate. Sometimes it's like they're used to being the guy where they were. And that's also not, you know, that's not some rookie saying that. Yeah. That's Lane Johnson saying that.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And I always, you know, Freddie Freeman is like a terrific teammate, you know, or terrific player, terrific teammate by all indications. I don't know, Freddie Freeman. This is just what I hear. But I remember there was a, there was a famous. thing where isn't he like very anti uh anti it's like young latin players and their flare wasn't that a deal in atlanta um i like he and acunia have a have a have a spout maybe so maybe so but anyways um if you remember when uh his his his first year there uh cliton kershaw made like very um pointed comments that he said about Freddie Freeman like I hope we're not second fiddle basically
Starting point is 00:38:53 meaning like he's got to get over Atlanta and there's there's a part of this I thought Sequin actually did a good job during the summer of like really trying to push away the all you know the giant stuff was going on in hard knocks he did that sit down with Diana Rossini he talked about his first press conference and look this keeps coming up keeps coming up and he even said if the giant scheme I hope we can move past it and I'm not Like, I'm all four players talking about narratives. I love narratives, right? But I do think in that locker,
Starting point is 00:39:21 you don't want it to be a situation, like what DeMarco Murray was, frankly, where you kind of feel just like a hired gun. And I think he's really been a part of the fabric of this team, and he's been awesome on the field. I do, I actually do think there is still room to debate whether or not it was the best use of that money, especially in conjunction with some other moves.
Starting point is 00:39:42 But like the degree to which, she has been super special and probably the best running back in football. Yeah, I think, I think it's been very impressive. And what's also comforting from my perspective, and not only was I right earlier than I was wrong here, but it's nice to know that Danes was even more wrong. Denez is right about so many things. I would, I would err on Denise's aside, most, much more frequently. Okay. More to come on right and wrong just after this. There are presenting sponsors. You know them. You love it. them. And why? Because they're like my friend, Zach Berman. They're never ordinary, not for one
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Starting point is 00:42:45 Wisconsin 96 hours per 12 ounces fewer cows and carbs and premium regular beer All right, Zach, I'm going to give you my tea leaves one now. Okay, I'm just trying to read the way that things were going, where money was spent, who's got power, what the history tells us. And I think like every other single person in the world, except for maybe Vic Fangio, I mean, I was wrong about Zach Bond. And the thing that we talked about, this is a guy who was in the same place in a very good defense. The team had drafted him in the third round. they never gave him a shot an inside linebacker. Seems preposterous that he would come here
Starting point is 00:43:24 and excel in that role and hold on to that job. I thought that Jeremiah Trader Jr. potentially was coming down the pike to maybe replace him. I thought that they spent more money on Devin White, so he was going to have a longer leash. Obviously, I was wrong about that, just like Howie Roseman was and just like everybody else in the world was. I'm telling you, like, I mean, there's one guy who knew this.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Zach Bond didn't even know that he was coming here to be a star inside linebacker. only Vic Vanjo did. So, yeah, I thought we have seen so much shuffling of the deck chairs at linebacker here that, I mean, obviously, I didn't see this coming. I was wrong. And yet, I do think I was right here also. This is a bit.
Starting point is 00:44:08 This is definitely a bit. Okay. What were you right about? Well. All right. Let's hear this. I'll tell you what. I was watching the Rams offense last night.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Okay. Watching the tape of their game from Sunday. And I told Fran that I was going to say this for Thursday, but now that we're talking about it, I've got to say it. I'll tell you what, there's a 53 on that Patriots defense. He's flying all over the place. And I'm not saying that if Vic Fangio was the Eagles defensive coordinator last year, that Christian Ellis wouldn't be,
Starting point is 00:44:39 I'm not saying that he would be the same level of Zach Bond, that he would be an all-pro caliber inside linebacker. But what I am saying is that if Vic Fangio had been, been here last year, Christian Ellis would still be here and Zach Bond wouldn't be here because they would have a starting caliber inside linebacker in Christian Ellis and the Vic Fangio defense. Number 53, moves the same, looks the same, star. Christian Ellis, they flew him out of town so that Zach Bonn could run.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Okay. You know, someone said to me the other day, someone was like, you know, I know you, I know you, you like to bring in all viewers. You don't like to cut off any viewers, that kind of thing. You like to keep this very by the book. What was going to your mind when Bo was doing the Albert O thing? And I was like, you know what? I kind of thought Bob might have something up his sleeve there.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I said when he did the Christian Ellis thing last year, that the 12-minute monologue in the priest outfit, that's the one where I was like, what is going on here? So that brings that brings that to mind. Yeah, Zach Vaughn, I'm going to have more on this for full disclosure next week leading up to the Ravens game. I'm going to have a big piece on this and I'll really get into the inside linebacker situation. I'll have some details there that. What's your deadline here?
Starting point is 00:46:07 Well, Black Friday. Okay. Because you're pegging it to. The Ravens and Robesp. That's right. It's either really invests in the backers. It's that natural peg. that everyone, everyone goes into this game and they're saying, they sit down and they say,
Starting point is 00:46:23 what are the big storylines this week? And they say, you know what? There's one team that really values linebackers. There's another team that story. Where can I find a piece that really delves into this? And the place you can find that is all p.gly.com, of course. But I actually, I'm excited for that. I have some good information in that story that might not be out there yet. So looking forward to putting that out. Yeah, Zach Bonner, I didn't see that coming. Now, that's not on my list because I figured you'd be going with it. But he, he's, He's been all pro caliber. I was talking to someone about this today.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I've been using that too much. I've been talking to someone. I've got to be careful with that. But I did say to someone today, the Eagles, this is the best linebacker play they've had in my 13 years covering the team. And there was a period. I thought Jordan Hicks played at a really high level in 2016, I believe it was. But the way Zach Bonds playing in the Kobe has been really strong as well.
Starting point is 00:47:16 So, yeah, that's a good. good one. I'll give you something I was I was wrong about too. I like more what I'm wrong about. That's Devante Smith. I thought Devante Smith was going to be a high volume player in this offense. I didn't think he was going to be the odd man out and I use that in air quotes for those watching or I'm sorry for the for those listening. I thought that the short and intermediate passing game is going to be real conducive for him. He's so good at getting open throughout camp. He just looked so smooth. And through the first three weeks of the season, he was getting volume. Part of that AJ missed week two and missed week three.
Starting point is 00:47:51 But ever since the buy, and we discussed this a number of times, he has been, yeah, he's kind of been lost in this offense. And I think they need to do more to get him involved because he's so good. And that's one of all the things we're talking. Like that could still change. Yeah. I'm sure there's going to be a two, three game stretch where Devante breaks out to some degree. But in my predictions for the year, I think I said Devante sets a career high in Ressette.
Starting point is 00:48:18 and that's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. All right, my rejoinder to reading the T-Leaves a little bit wrong versus reading the T-Reeves right, T-Leaves, rather. I mean, who else told you in May that Tyler Steen was not going to be the starting right guard? It was just watch and listen to everything they did. We've already been over this, but they gave him, they didn't let him start as the backup
Starting point is 00:48:47 right guard last year. year to Sue Opetta and then Sue Opetta they let him leave so it's not like they love him. Nick can't even remember his name at the owners meetings. They signed Mackay Bechtin. Mackay Bechtons playing left guard in the spring and not tackle. It seemed pretty clear that this thing was being set up to not trust Tyler Steen for whatever reason because I do, I think I like Talestine as a player more than the Eagles seem to. But it seemed pretty clear even entering the summer that this was probably going to be
Starting point is 00:49:17 Mackay Beckton's job. Yeah. And that is how it played out. I think the injury played a part in that, but I think it would have ended up that way anyway. And, you know, just, you know, sometimes you're right. I actually have Mackay Beckton on here, too, so I won't use that one when I get to it. But yeah, I thought Mackay Beckton, once they moved in the guard, I said that he's playing. He's starting at guard.
Starting point is 00:49:38 And I'm curious, too, whether they try to resign him. I thought Steen looked decent, but the Eagles don't like to let good offensive linemen out the door. It's true, and yet, like I said, I like Steen. I would probably let Bechton go. I would be fine with Tyler Seen's interesting. The same logic that we talked about last year, that first round pick might be a tackle who can play guard. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Yeah, I would be, I would be hesitant to like sign some long-term deal with Mackay Bechtin before free agency. I would sort of let the market play itself out. I've watered under your foot. Is Mackay Bechton playing right tackle or right guard or guard? next year. Is he playing, I'm sorry, offensive tackle or offensive guard next year? Oh, I think he's a guard. I think he's a guard moving forward. You don't think so. Okay. Yeah, I think so. Um, my, uh, I'll give you my third that I got
Starting point is 00:50:27 wrong and then I'll do my two, my two right after that. I thought this was going to be a middle of the pack defense. I, I thought Vic and you framed it better than anyone in the media and I follow everyone in the media. Um, it's a lot of people. Yeah, you said that Mike, I'm sorry, that Vic Fangio raises the floor more than he raises the ceiling. I was wrong about that. No, no, I mean that as a compliment. That framing, I thought was absolutely right. I think that was their goal.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah, I'm like, all right, if Vic Fangio gives you competence, the offense is so good that a competent defense and as high-powered offense, you're going to be in the ticket things. I did not see a top five, top eight defense. I didn't think they had the personnel for it. I didn't know how the scheme was going to be. They've been otherworldly during the, the, this winning street,
Starting point is 00:51:15 the sixth game winning streak. Now, we'll see if there's regression coming. But I'm so impressed with Vic as a schemer, as a play caller. And by the way, as a press conferenceer as a speaker up there. Yeah, anything interesting from today? Yeah, I liked why he said, you know, he was talking about John Carter snaps. He's like, he was already playing a lot of snaps. There was a difference between 90% and 100.
Starting point is 00:51:37 What the hell is the difference? He dropped an H. Yeah, what the hell is the difference? Yeah, my kids would say you said the H word. and have you ever cursed around your kids? Yeah, yeah. And do they pick up on it? Every now and then.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Yeah, we had a, yeah, we had a, I forget exactly what it was, but. Yeah, I can't even tell it because we're not allowed to curse on the show anymore. But there was a funny one with Jane where she dropped and had thumbs. It was like, the question was like, what do I say? What does daddy say when he makes a mistake? Or what does mommy say when he does he make a mistake? mistake. And I said, I'm sorry. She just goes, keep pausing. She goes, F. Sloan called me up and said, and said, mom cursed. I said what did mom say? And then she said it.
Starting point is 00:52:22 I was like, Sloan, don't say it. It's like, but you ask me. She's quoted. That's fine. It's a quote. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So then I will give you that. I have, I have two. Yeah, but on the defense. I mean, nobody's on the defense being this good. Sure. I think, I think, again, even the Eagles internally would be surprised. at how good the defense has been. My number two, and look, I think the whole world was on this. This wasn't me, but I expected Jalen Carter to be awesome this year. And I think Jalen Carter has been awesome this year, in particular.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Oh, interesting. You're saying you were right about Jalen Carter and you thought he was going to be awesome. Yes. Huh. Do you disagree? I do. I thought Jalen Carter was going to be, like, competing for a defensive player of the year. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:53:09 I thought it was going to be that level of awesome. I thought he was going to be the best player on the defense. I thought he was going to be the best part of the defense, but I thought it was going to be, like, impactful in a, like, game-wrecking way every other week type deal. And I don't think he's been at that level. I think he has, he has been awesome and has been the best part of the defense, but he has not hit what my expectations were for him this season. From a stat production or from all-round play? Both. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I thought earlier this year, I thought the first, there were some inconsistencies earlier this year. I think during this run, he has just dominated the line of scrimmage. I don't know if I agree with that. Okay. on a game in, game out basis? I don't think I agree. Okay. And then my last one that I was, well, there were, there was one that I had in the
Starting point is 00:53:51 McKay-Bectin one, which was Cooper DeGine would be the starting slot this year. And he's. Okay. And then my other one too, and this one is hard to quantify or qualify even. But I didn't think that Nick Siriani like lost the locker. I thought that Nick, um, I thought Nick had had the team behind him. And I thought that going into the year, I thought that after the Bucks game, I'm sorry, after the Browns game.
Starting point is 00:54:23 And I think that, like, I don't think that's all said and done on Nick. He's got to win in the postseason. But the fact that he's sitting here eight and two, three years in a row with, you know, I saw someone, I saw a stat yesterday that Zach Taylor, lose the next 26 games and his winning percentage would would and Nick Siriani would have like a I'm sorry Nick Siriani a next year he could lose his next 26 games and he would have a better winning percentage than Zach Taylor or something like that now um Knicks won a lot of games he has to win in January and potentially February but um yeah I think the team responds to Nick and I saw that coming into the season yeah I just I think the Nick conversation it's
Starting point is 00:55:13 too early to take a victory lap, I think. Okay. I think the entire stakes of the Nick Siriani season is about what happens at the end of the season. Is Nick coaching the team on March 1st? Yeah, I think so. Okay. But that's not necessarily what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Yeah. I think it's also funny that the two things you were right about were Sequin and Barclay and Jalen Carter. I mean, I was right about more than that, but I focused more on what I was wrong about. Okay. Yeah, I mean, let's review the thing. I mean, this is the literal story of you saying Judevian Clowny is the guy who I think I would keep my eye on in the draft. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Well, come up to the jeans starting in the slot. Yeah, the guy they traded up for in the second round who can play the slot. Like, that's not a huge surprise. Okay. Okay. All right. My, where the data led me wrong? Listen.
Starting point is 00:56:11 I was bullish. on Bryce off. I thought Bryce off was a classic case of he's shown that he can be this efficient with this many snaps. There's no reason to think that you blow up those snaps
Starting point is 00:56:26 and he's going to be super less efficient. And you just look at the, you know, the quarterback hit rate, the times he's hit the quarterback divided by the past rush snaps that he's had in 2022, in 180 pass rush snaps, he was hitting the quarterback on 70.
Starting point is 00:56:42 percent of those snaps. Bump that up to 2003 last year. He goes all the way up to 460 pass rush snaps. He's still hitting the quarterback 7% of the time, which was like top five in the league, looked like one of the most efficient pass rushers in the league. And there was reason to be a little bit skeptical about that because he was mostly he was on third down. He was in a unit where he was not the focal point of opposing blocking schemes.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And yet, this. season in 145 pass rush snaps. By the way, I was using total snaps. I should have been past rush snaps. It was 164, then 315. This year it's 145. About the same level as 2022 when he was at 7%. He's at a career low 2.4%. He has been obviously an enormous disappointment, not just to me, but to Howie Roseman, I'm sure, and the defense. He has fourth or fifth in the pass rush rotation right now, depending on a week-to-week basis. And so, yeah, I thought that he was going to be the best edge rusher they have and he has been their fourth best edge rusher.
Starting point is 00:57:48 That has been a tremendous surprise to me. And yet, I mean, I was right if you go all the way back to the shrine game from 2020, shrine game. I did identify him as a player who could be a pretty productive NFL player. And so, again, even if I'm wrong, I'm right. We appreciate those of you on watching on TV. way up to Zach's grandparents, head over to all-PHLY.com for more of the show.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I would say I had, so if you trust your eyes, I had concerns about Bryce Huff during the summer. Sure. And I... We had the same conversation. We was like, how much of this... Like, are we trying to remember Hassan Redick? Like, is this the land effect?
Starting point is 00:58:34 So I kept wondering, is Elaine Johnson? And then I had concerns, too, when he was playing in the preseason game against the Patriots. And... Fran, I'm not talking about pressures. I'm quarterback hits. This is tangible. Get pressures out of here.
Starting point is 00:58:48 And by the way, you know, it's like, so the fact that they, they were playing Bryce Huff and Devin White in that preseason game, and they're like, well, these are new guys. We just want to get them acclimated. But maybe it's, it's like they need to get their eyes on guys who they weren't sure on. And, yeah, so Bryce,
Starting point is 00:59:07 I'm curious about how this Bryce situation works beyond this season. And then where the, The data was right that I was following. And I wasn't quite as vocal about this because I didn't want to be a buzzkill. Oh, you, a buzzkill? No, you don't say. But I was not as bullish as everybody else. The Dotson trade.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Like, he was just, he was not a super productive player. Yeah. And I didn't like the price, but I like the, I'd like the, I thought he was an upgrade over. Yeah, but the price. The price was crazy. Sure. You know, a third round pick. And I think we talked about this all off season long.
Starting point is 00:59:40 And I think you and I were right about this. Like, they handled this. this position wrong, they could have just signed Noah Brown. Right? And they wouldn't have had to trade for John Donson. They would have got the same level of player, if not even a little bit better this season. There were other ways to address the position unless they were sure it was going to be a real part of the offense, which it obviously is not. And I also think that they misread the wide receiver market.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Now, part of that, of course, is you're buying the rookie contract for two years. But nonetheless, I think that there is, when you look at what wide receivers went for in the market, it was more of a buyer's market than a seller's market. And the Eagles trade did not indicate as much. And by the way, there's the benefit that we've seen, the Eagles, they benefited from signing players early, right? Because you're not reacting to the market. The flip side is they made this trade before the market. and then had they reacted to the market a few weeks later or a few months later,
Starting point is 01:00:44 the price might have been different. Okay. You know what? We've had a whole hour of the show, and I still haven't seen any other good examples of technology in the chat. So I appreciate that. I would argue that the chat itself is a good example of technology. Like literally, we are sitting here. Yeah, you really need to hear from San Diego.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I didn't see what San Diego said. Oh, he says it's proven Apple uses slave labor to make their product. How do you feel about that, Zach? I, are you sure about that? You believe in the company, you said. I mean, are you sure? Let Tim Cook. I'm not sure that's entirely accurate.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I'm not sure that's accurate. Well, guess what? There's no way to know. There's no way to tell what's good information or bad information, Zach. Not in today's media ecosystem. You know what? I believe very sure. I don't understand how believing in technology is a bad thing.
Starting point is 01:01:36 The amount of, and this started, like the amount of data that I have about, about my body on a daily basis is wonderful. How is that helping you? It's helping me in an enormous way. It's helping me in... Zach, you sleep three hours a night. Well, it's not helping you. All you're getting, all you're knowing is finding out that you're not doing a good enough job.
Starting point is 01:01:55 That's that, no. There's other data that it gives you. Okay. You know, you can, yeah. You know, you can learn a lot about your heart rate, for instance. Okay. You know, there's plenty. of other metric points, or I should say data points that I use that I find beneficial.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Okay. But yeah, I think technology overall, I mean, there's bad. You think about the technology with medicine. Yeah, I said, I'm setting aside, I'm setting aside medical advancements. Okay. Vaccines, things like that. Those are all great. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Okay. You think about transportation? I'm mostly thinking about like big tech. You think about data? Like the. With their ulterior motives. Do you like using true media? I do like using true media.
Starting point is 01:02:44 So I was talking to, I never know if I'm allowed to say who I was talking to. You know, I was, I don't think this is bad. Jeffrey Lurie. No, no, no, no. I was talking to Jason Stark. I have a great admiration for. And like, he used to have to, you know, he used to have these baseball almanacs and like box scores of every game that he would have to parse through.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And now literally I can see. I can, with four clicks, I can see every Sequin Barclay run that ended at the one or two yard line in his career. Like that has made my job considerably easier. Okay. Okay. You know, if you want to tell me how many times the Eagles blitzed on third down, when I started on this beat, my colleague would watch the film and would chart that, like have to have to chart every single one. now you can just pull that up. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:42 That's solid. But I would say the fact that this show we're doing, you can watch the show on your phone. You can watch the show on your computer. You can watch the show on your fast channels. By the way, Xfinity. Actually, if you have X-1, if you have Roku, if you have Samsung, you can watch it on that. You can watch it on your tablet. You can comment.
Starting point is 01:04:06 People are watching us from around the world. and I mean that literally around the world. I sent a book yesterday to someone in Australia. I don't know when it's going to get to you, but it'll get to you. Good, I might. I love Australia. But yeah, technology is a wonderful thing. I feel there's times when I leave the show.
Starting point is 01:04:27 You know what? I have seen you pound harder than that. That is a very tip of town. There's times that I leave this show and I say, well, I'm left. So I pound harder from my left hand. Once again. There's times when I leave the show and I'm like, oh, God. what did I just say?
Starting point is 01:04:39 I feel confident dying on the Hill technology. All technology? Well, by and large, I'm dying on the Hill technology. Technology is good, yeah. I think technology has made our world better. Yeah. I don't know. Fresh Prince says, and this is Super Chat, he says,
Starting point is 01:05:04 we need more dad talk at the end of the show, and here we are. Could you all talk about toddler jealousy? I have a two-year-old girl three next month and a nine-month-old boy. Certainly a real thing. You know, one piece of advice our doctor gave us before our second child was born, Jane, which I love, is
Starting point is 01:05:25 like in front of the older child, like discipline the baby so that the older child knows that the rules apply to both of that, even though the baby is no idea what's going on, but like, you know, like performatively, put the baby in time out or whatever it is and say like you're not supposed to do this or that so that the older child knows that it that it goes both ways i like that and i told reed recently comparison is the thief of joy he did not know what i was talking about um
Starting point is 01:05:54 that's a true story i said in the car i said comparison is the thief of joy you said what um i said look that up on you on your tablet But In all seriousness, no. Trippy, drippy this. There was, you know, my kid's school, they had like Star of the Week.
Starting point is 01:06:22 And Sloan was the Star of the Week in the, like, early in the school year. And then Reed's Star of the Week at the end of the school year. And because in Reed's class, they did a reverse alphabetically, so Z to A, right? So he's the star of the weekend in May. and he says the Sloan he's like well being star of the week at the end is actually better
Starting point is 01:06:44 because you can get the ideas of what everyone else does and like know what's good and what's bad and I'm like read just tell Sloan it's nice that she was star of the week you don't have to take that away from her
Starting point is 01:06:54 okay that's good yeah but yeah that's a little toddler but comparison is the thief of joy I mean it's a saying that doesn't make it to like factually correct or in my opinion
Starting point is 01:07:10 in this case comparison is the thief of joy the comparison is the thief of joy yeah Claire says Claire says how do you discipline a baby a baby and so I put my
Starting point is 01:07:22 I put the other day I put read and time out and he had to sit in the corner and every time that he complained or said something 30 seconds were added on to it
Starting point is 01:07:35 and then and so he learned to So he's still there. No, no, no. But actually, Reed behaves wonderfully. That was an exception. Sloan sometimes acts up a little bit more. Classic second child, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Yeah, Reed's very obedient. Reed respects authority figures. Yes. Reed's not quite, yeah. I wonder where he gets that from. There you go. That's good. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:04 That'll do it for this episode of the Ph.L.Y. Eagles podcast. Jamie and Rich in the saddle tomorrow, I will join. Technology permitting. Technology permitting, true. And then we're back on Thursday with Fran to talk about how much Zach Bond is like Christian Ellis and to think a little bit more about the Rams game coming up on Sunday. And then we've got day news in studio on Friday. We're going to hear from Jordan Rodriguez later this week for a little behind enemy lines peak at the L.A. Rams.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Sotchen, what was that? He said, we had the older one, give the baby a gift from Wright at the hospital. He felt like a big brother and that he had to look out for his little brother. Love that. That's a good piece of advice. I'm afraid for real time, I believe. He's already got the nine-month-old. But that's okay.
Starting point is 01:08:55 That's good advice for everybody else. All right. Thank you, Julia. Let's get one more Julia, Julia, Julia, Julia chant going for the engaged couple. Julia, Julia. Julia. And we'll talk to you tomorrow for all of us here at PHOY. thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. Ezra, good one. That is a technological advancement. However,
Starting point is 01:09:16 I believe that that probably existed before we were born. But a good one. We'll talk to you tomorrow. And as always, we love you.

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