PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Chris Long, Patrick Robinson & The Best Short-Term Eagles | PHLY Eagles Podcast

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

Time to Remember Some Guys, as Fran Duffy, EJ Smith and Bo Wulf put together rosters of the best short-term Eagles like Chris Long, Patrick Robinson and Dimitri Patterson! Some Friday fun for the sick...os. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everybody and welcome to the P-H-L-Y Eagles podcast. I'm a beautiful little overcast, a little humid Friday, live from the Xfinity Lounge and presented by Ashley. It's Bo Wolf. It's Fran Duffy. It's E.J. Smith. We got a little three-way going on. Nice to see you guys. It's a three-hander. When is the last time all three of us have been in studio together? It's been a long time.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Yeah, like right after the draft, maybe? Yeah, probably the week after the draft. There have been some times where I've been in the waiting room, waiting for to be added to the show and listening to Fran, make fun of my takes, you know, which feels a little unfair. It feels a little unfair, undeserved, I would say. But yeah, it's good to have the group back together. Yes.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Boy, do we have a fun show. Sure do. Today. The, we hardly flew the draft. I thought of it during the intro. Here we go. You know, just something I cooked up in the 30 seconds. We hardly flew thee.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Talking about, you know, it's not quite a haul of very good, but the idea here is we're going to highlight and focus on some players who were really good in a short period of time for the Eagles. Not great in a short period of time. Because we'll get to the qualifications. And the grammar. Upstead qualification. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Here's the deal. I'm going to give you the categories first, and then I will tell you the restrictions. And after I've done all that, you might want to pause the episode, put your own big board together, and then rejoin us. Oh, that's a good idea. That's a fun exercise.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Now, we have three spots for any skill position player, running back slash wide receiver slash tight end. Three spots for those. Two spots for offensive line and one spot for any other offensive player. Two spots for defensive line. one spot for linebacker, two spots for defensive back, one spot for a defensive wildcard, any defensive player,
Starting point is 00:02:05 two more spots, one spot for a special teams player, and one spot for a player who never started a game for the Eagles. Here are the restrictions. Number one, the players involved cannot have ever with the Eagles made a Pro Bowl or an all pro or any kind of award like that. And two, they cannot have been with the Eagles longer than three seasons. And that's going to apply to players on the current roster, EJ, if this year would count for their fourth year. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I honestly, I don't think anybody on the current roster should be eligible, period. There's a couple. There's a couple players that I'm going to. I'm just saying I don't think that they should be, but, you know. Let's just get this out of the way now. This game is really set up for me to just fail miserably. As is most games, I would say. Yes, that is, you know what?
Starting point is 00:02:56 I actually don't have a debate, although I was leading you in Swoop for a little while there, if you remember. So there may be some times where I misstep, I call out a name that doesn't fit the criteria. I maybe started this exercise and forgot that they had to play three or fewer seasons. So for that reason, we'll see what happens on this side for me. This is some exceptions. Just to not let you get too down yourself.
Starting point is 00:03:21 this is more of a personal journey this exercise as opposed to necessarily trying to beat everybody. I mean, I'm going to win. That's why I'm wearing my
Starting point is 00:03:31 super shirt. But this is really more about like, what do you value? What do you want to add on your roster here? Yeah, I wasn't trying to build the best team.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I was trying to, I'm trying to come away with a team of my guys, man, yeah. Yeah. There were several players that I was like excited
Starting point is 00:03:47 to put onto my board and then I was like, oh, they played four years There's a handful of those guys. So I'll try and share those. You know, who was your number one on that front? Sam Rayburn.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Mm, okay. Defensive tackle, the truck driver. Too young for, or too old for E.J. to know who he was, but I would celebrate and get up and hung the horn after it made a TFL. This is within the scope of the Eagles 26, so this is since 2000.
Starting point is 00:04:11 The number one for me that I was, ah, Colt Anderson. Yeah, Colt Anderson. Four years, I want him to be my special player so bad. Chris Margos. Oh, my first. I was one, but my number one was Sean Considine. I was very disappointed to be only played four years.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Or he played four years. Here's the thing. I was saying, well, why would you want to add Sean Constantine to you to the board? What excited you about that? So the fun, one of the fun things. No offense, obviously. Well, one of the fun things about this exercise was reaching out to either my dad, my father-in-law, or Les Bowen.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Shout out to all three of those men in my life. It gave me a good opportunity to go, was that guy actually good? Like, was he actually good or do I just remember him being good? Because I was, you know, viewing the Eagles through the lens of like early Madden ratings and just vibes. So there will be some of that for me, I'm sure. But yeah, again, I'm trying to get my guys here. All right. In order to set the order, in order to set the order, we're going to lean into Lindsay's current rankings of her favorite.
Starting point is 00:05:13 So Lindsay, whoever is number one on your favorites at the moment gets to decide which spot they get. Today, it's E.J. Oh, why? Because you reacted first to my video that I sent. There you go. It's a really good video. You know why? Because I watched it twice.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I was watching it twice. It was so good. I waited to watch it while you were watching me watch it. Yeah, yeah, but it is really fun. He just gave a blind reaction, didn't even watch it. It was not a blind reaction. He reacted too quickly. He didn't watch the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:05:43 A blind reaction. I watched the video. He was happy you did it. He didn't really care about the quality of amazing. Don't even like respond to them. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. So, EJ's first.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Also, I want to say, you know, I've gotten in trouble before for being late to the meeting. I was very much on time and nobody. Yeah, Bo was super late. And then Fran didn't even show up. Yeah, I was there for the meeting. Bo might as well have not shown up. Let's be honest. We had to repeat everything we talked about.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It took six seconds. All right. So you get to pick your spot, E.J. I want the, I want the turn in the snake. draft so I went three four you went three four yeah all right Lindsay who's uh next on your list you you did eventually respond to the video and you eventually showed up to the meeting ran no response to the text message and did you like the video of course I did I loved it oh well you didn't have the heart ofodgy right away any word right after I watched it twice you
Starting point is 00:06:41 didn't have any any acknowledgement the lazy the oh that was you I thought it was wait wait okay Wait, this is, this is, I thought, I just saw somebody hearted it and then E.J. like, texted at the same time. So I was like, oh, he hearted it and then answered. So you don't even know if I got it in there first. So you hearted it first. I think, yeah, he was hard at first. He'll miss a roll. I watched it twice.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I'm still taking it. Stop the steal. All right. So I've got the first pick. All right. Before we begin, Fran, the first round is brought to you by our friends at Xfinity. It's time for the big takeaway as we begin. the hardly, we hardly flew the draft.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Reminder, three skill positions, two offensive line, one offensive wildcard, two defensive line, one linebacker, two defensive backs, one defensive wildcard, a special teamer and a player who never started a game. There's, you know, are you going to lean into who you really want the most? Are you going to lean into where there's some positional scarcity? I'm curious to see what you do with a first overall pick. Yeah. I'm going to go with a guy that had a really high ceiling for one year, did not make a Pro Bowl, but it's at a position of scarcity, for sure.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I'm going to take Mackay Beckton. Interesting. I'm going to go with the right guard from the 2020-4 season. Give me Bexton, obviously that we, I mean, look, at this point, everybody that's watching the show knows what he brought to the table. Outstanding in the run game was certainly fine enough in the past game for one of the best offenses of football. So for me, I'm going to go with Bechton.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I really struggled with offensive line overall in this exercise. For a number of reasons, I think that the Eagles typically, like, they are locking those guys up. So a lot of the starters were here for longer than the three-year window. So give me Bechton here first overall. Yeah, okay. Good pick. Okay. I can see it.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Hmm. I'm deciding whether I want to get my guy. Go with your guy. No, but I don't think. You're going to take my guy. So I am going to be a little bit boring here. Okay. And I'm going to just, I'm going to, I'm going to return the serve from Fran
Starting point is 00:08:57 because there's one other starting offensive linemen on a Super Bowl winning championship team. And that is Stefan Wisniewski. I will take Stefan Wisniewski as my offensive lineman. This is immediately backfired. Do you want to wax poetic about Stefan Wisniewski? or you're just taking him? Listen, we all remember
Starting point is 00:09:19 the left guard rotation. It wasn't just Stefan Wisniewski. That season started as Isaac Sayamalu and then they started doing the like every other drive thing with Wiz and Chance Warmac wrote a whole rap about it.
Starting point is 00:09:33 But Wiz settled it down and it was fun because you could tell that he was not what Stout necessarily wanted at Lefguard, but he made use of what he had. He was a great, grinder.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Like a whiz. He was second on my board at offensive line, so I like the pick. He was number one on my board, and I'm in trouble now. You had him ahead of Mackay? I did. Did you have my head of Mackay? I had the two of them together. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yeah. Yeah, I had a tear break there. I'll get to offensive line at the very end of the draft now, and as a result of you guys just completely ruining my strategy here. You had the pick. You had the first. You took it. Yeah, I mean, listen, I probably should have.
Starting point is 00:10:14 had some foresight on that one. I am going to probably break the rules on offensive line. Warning you now. So at the turn, I'm going to go, I'm going to really lean into the cult hero appreciation. And I'm not going to read the strategy of this because you guys probably aren't going to pick these guys right away. I'm going to start at defensive line with Timmy Jernigan. Oh, I like Timmy Jernigan.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Here's my top tier defensive lineman. If you're thinking of that, like, you know, 1B defensive tackle that plays across from, you know, a difference making, one of the best players in their generation in Fletcher Cox, Tim Jernigan is kind of like the beginning of that. You know, he kind of leads into the Javon Hargrave era and into the Milton Williams era and the Moro Jomo era. So I think he is like kind of, we've talked about,
Starting point is 00:11:05 let's put it this way. He's kind of like a defensive tackle, poor man's version of like Trey Thomas, where it's like the beginning of like a cultural thing that like the Eagles are known for. Like I feel like Tim Jernigan kind of represents that, at least for my vantage point as an Eagles observer. I can't remember the offensive lineman I was talking to about it. But it's stuck in my mind,
Starting point is 00:11:27 the, you know, talking about going up against that Eagles defensive line and saying, yeah, like, you're worried about Fletch and you have the, you know, BG and you know, there was Barnett and you had Chris Long. But there was something about like lining up against that defensive line and Tim Jernigan would look at you and he would flash that grin that would flip with the grill and just like smile and wave at you.
Starting point is 00:11:46 They just like, you know, kind of like set the tone. And it's like, yeah, Tim Journeyer was that kind of presence on that group. I think we all remember the, was it the photo. It was after the Bears game. We had the shirt off in the chain with Doug. Yeah, I believe that's right. Yep. Classic.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Classic. Here's my number one defensive alignment. Okay. It's a good pick. I like that pick out of you, EJ. You have one more pick. I do. I'm checking to see if this guy's ever started a game because I think this is.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Oh, geez. Here we go. It's part of one game. Yeah, there are a couple. One game. All right. Journey was a good player too. He was a very good player.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Oh, I'll go with, I know, so is it, it can be offense that never started a game, right? Yeah, it can be anybody. I'm going all over the place here. You know what? Jay must be terrible at like a game night. He's like, wait, can I, like, my piece can go here? Or like, have you guys ever seen the meme where it's like,
Starting point is 00:12:41 you know, when they start reading the instructions to the game? and then you freak out and then you realize you've already missed like half the instructions. You've seen that? That's me. Can you just cut this and put this into the video that you sent us earlier? You guys probably aren't going to take this guy this high. But I want to make sure I get somebody who's never started a game. Josh McCown.
Starting point is 00:13:00 That's the right. I think that's the right. Never started a game pick. Yeah. That's a really good call. Because he is like a cult hero, obviously that prime documentary where you see what he went through in that playoff game coming in for Carson Wentz. He kind of has like some lore and like, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:13 behind the scenes COVID year is like a quarterback whisper for Jalen Hertz as well. So I think his impact on the organization is like bigger than you would expect for the time he spent. And I enjoyed covering Josh McCown. So I'm going with the sneaky, never started a game pick here. He was the top player at my board at that spot. Okay. Never started. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Task failed successfully over here. That's a good one. That is a good one. Okay. I, we have focused early on the weak positions. I'm going to take a player at what is probably the, the deepest position in this draft. But it's the best of them.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It is the person who I would say you could argue as the best one-year Eagles career ever. Well, oh, best one year Eagles career. One year. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, got you. Yes, I'm with you. The impact that he made. I'm sticking with another member of the 2017 championship team.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Give me Patrick Robinson at corner. Yeah, he was up there for me in terms of, you know, that tier of player. But not the only DB. Not the only DB is stacked. Yes. Yeah. But the big thing with Patrick Robinson and a lot of people remember was that that training camp was brutal. And he was going to be the outside corner opposite Jaylon Mills.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And it was like every day in one-on-ones. He was just getting beat after, you know, rep after rep after rep. And they make the trade for Ronald Darby. And he slides into the slot. And he was really good that entire season. And you get the big moment in the NFC championship game. Off to the races. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Over to you, Frank. Close out the second round of the, we hardly flew the draft. Yeah, I'm going to go with a defensive back who was acquired just before his season. I'm going to go with CJ Gardner Johnson. High impact. Well, I don't hate CJ Gardner Johnson.
Starting point is 00:15:08 No, to me, like I like CJ Gardner Johnson as a player. And to me, like the, in terms of like the highs, what he can bring, creating those explosives defensively. I agree that defensive back is very deep. But when I look at the top tier here, for me, this was one I wanted to make sure I got on the, on the turn.
Starting point is 00:15:28 You want to put him in wild card. That's where I put him in my categorization. Don't tell me how to stack my board. I just liked him as a wild card. But why would you use your flex spot before you have to? What did you talk about? So that's, it's, it's, I didn't look at the wild card on defense at least as a flex spot. I looked at it like, I wanted a wildcard. I wanted that personality to fit that.
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Starting point is 00:18:19 I would say I was nervous going into this that I had the first pick because, you know, waiting for that to bounce back to me. I wasn't sure if I'd be able to get guys at top of my board. To be able to get this player here, I just really didn't think that he was going to be available for me in this spot. And I'm really excited. There's a big tier break at this position. I'm going to take former Eagles wide receiver who's here for three years.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Kevin Curtis, who was playing for the Rams to start his career, played in the shadows of Tori Holt and Isaac Bruce and some of those great Rams offenses, comes here to Philly and had an outstanding start to his career here. Only three seasons. 135 targets in that first year, 77 catches, over 1,100 yards, and six touchdowns. Now, a lot of that happened on September 23rd, 2007. Many may remember that huge blowout win over the Lions, where in the first half, nine catches,
Starting point is 00:19:11 205 yards, and three touchdowns in the first half against the lines and I went back and watched the film of that game just to see
Starting point is 00:19:18 like what Curtis did and it was a very fun tape to go back and watch I thought there was a big tear break between he and the rest of the receivers here in this group
Starting point is 00:19:25 so I'm gonna go Kevin Curtis. Okay. One? Yeah. Yeah. Kevin Curtis or Curtis Kevin? I believe it was
Starting point is 00:19:33 Kevin Curtis. Okay. I will take the other poster for this episode. Very happy. I didn't think he would last this long either. When Franz started saying he was surprised he was going to make it that long.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I am happy to have the, you would have thought that he was a bit of a mercenary coming in. Turned out to be something of the heart and soul of the 2017 championship team. I've not got three members of that squad. I do. Happy to have Chris Long. Yep. On my defensive line. I think the pure sack numbers might underwhelming a little bit.
Starting point is 00:20:10 sacks in that season, six and a half the year after. But I think the fact that Chris Long has remained such a mainstay in Eagles culture tells you how much that time meant to him and how much he meant to Eagles fans during that time. If Curtis was off the board, I would have taken Chris Long. So that was, he was not for long, certainly in this, on this draft. Yeah, he was definitely among the names I was considering, how am I board? So as I come back on the board here, I see an opportunity to really mistake an early claim on a personality, a play personality on defense. Now, C.J. Gardner Johnson would have been a good addition to that.
Starting point is 00:20:51 But I think I can still get some swagger in my secondary and put Cousin Grace out of her misery in the cast. No! I'm taking Cravon LeBlanc. So this is just pure, like, pandering. No, this is cult heroes. I wanted strap. I'm not going and looking to see production. I'm not looking to see the starts. I mean, that's important.
Starting point is 00:21:13 He's not going to piss down his leg. Yeah, I want some dogs. I want some cult heroes. I want some guys who, when you're sitting in your friends' basement, which I guess, you know, and maybe I'm not sitting in the basement, sitting in the living room,
Starting point is 00:21:27 when you're hanging out with your friends, the names that get the reaction. The names that go, oh, that guy was awesome. I agree with that. Crave-on-Libon-Lblanc was awesome. So I want Cravon-Libon-Libon to kind of to round out. Tim Jernigan and Cravon-Lavon-Loblock on your defense.
Starting point is 00:21:40 You got some swagger there. I'm going to revisit the swagger, but I also kind of need to make sure I'm building out my team a little bit. Remember that you remember the first draft game? Sure. Giants. Odell Beckham. Redsone.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yep. What are you going to do? Piss man up or piss down your leg? Are you allowed to say that for your overtime? Piss. Yeah. Yeah. You said it like four times.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Piss, piss, piss, piss, piss. it's like that tennis player it's fun we should I don't know my second pick I love strap I'm gonna go with
Starting point is 00:22:23 that one hurts me a more productive eagle but still I think very much appreciated by Eagles fans I'm gonna go with Tori Smith that's a good one yeah I feel like I need to maybe have an offense that's a little bit more buttoned up to balance out my defense.
Starting point is 00:22:41 It's full of just absolute dogs. Okay. See, you should have taken Torrey Smith first and then completely thrown bow off his game by taking the strap here. And that's fine as he's going into this. I'm not like malicious in these games. I know you're out, you're out for blood. I'm just here having a good time. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Here's what the strap pick has done to me. It has made me no longer willing to wait on the guy that I need to make sure that I got. Oh, okay. And so, with my fourth round pick, I will be using my special team spot.
Starting point is 00:23:14 On the man who was the best player on the top ranked special teams unit at the time he left the Eagles. This is someone whose departure from the Eagles led to their downfall. in 2023.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I have to. And we've all seen what he went on to after that. Very happy to welcome to the squad. Nice. Christian Ellis as my special teamer. Yeah, that was a really bad, like, miss on my part that I should have, I should have him on him because I didn't even think about it. That was eligible for this exercise.
Starting point is 00:23:51 I didn't have it on my board. That's a good one. As soon as I said, of course he, of course he got him. But that shows you that, like, you misread the board a little bit because he wasn't on our boards, I don't think. No. just because you've got a bad board That's good now
Starting point is 00:24:03 That's fine It's a good call Yeah they go with the consensus board All right So back to me Yeah I'm gonna go I'm gonna go
Starting point is 00:24:17 Another offensive player here I'm gonna go with my offensive Wildcard We did not include quarterbacks Right But For the wild card I'm gonna go with
Starting point is 00:24:29 I'm gonna go with Jeff Garcia who gave them really quality play when McNabb was injured. He came in and it was one of a handful of players that Andy Reid was able to coach up to get to a level of success. Now, obviously, he had already had some kind of pedigree there. But Jeff Garcia will be my pick here for this one. It's very funny. Thinking about the vibes in the locker room of EJ's team,
Starting point is 00:24:52 which I love. I love the dogs that you've got. And Fran has just the most odious locker room. Just nasty stuff. Look, we didn't say, we didn't say that's what this was about, all right? It's just talking about somebody. All right. Keep it a moving.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Another position where I thought there was a good tear break here. And I'm going to go, I'm going to go back to the beginning part of this, this time frame. Player that you could make an argument could get some Hall of Fame recognition. I'm going to go Brian Mitchell, who has maybe of all the fun facts with Brian Mitchell, no player has more all-purpose yardage against one single NFL team than Brian Mitchell against the Dallas Cowboys because he spent his entire career playing for the other three NFC's teams and racked up oodles and oodles of return yardage. On top of what he did as a runner and as a receiver, but what he did in nearly, sparking that team to Victor to start the O2 NFC title game against the Bucks and that team of
Starting point is 00:26:08 destiny that closed down the vet and should have gone to beat up the Raiders in that in that season. Yeah, give me B Mitch. I had Brian Mitchell in as my special team's pick with exclamation points next to them. Nice. That's fun. At least you got LaBlanc though. Yeah, I got the dogs. I'm going to keep my nucleus of the 2017 Eagles together here.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I feel very good about this one and adding somebody to my skill position room which is empty at the moment. The hammer of that team. Give me LaGarrett Blunt. Feeling very good about having him open things up for me by just busting guys' heads down.
Starting point is 00:26:49 You guys are starting to take some of these guys. I feel like getting contentious in here. That is what happens in our draft. I know. I'm up, right? Yes. I'm here on the turn. Frank going quarterback makes me want to make sure
Starting point is 00:27:01 I get a quarterback I feel good about. Maybe not the quarterback you're expecting from me. I'm going to go with Mark Sanchez. Okay. You guys don't like Mark Sanchez. You already have a quarterback. He got Josh McCown. Oh, he was my, no, he's my never started a game.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I know, but he's on your team. Yeah, but I need, I feel like I have to get both. Okay. Yeah, I got it. You do you, man. You got it. You got it. Your guy that is just like deadpan.
Starting point is 00:27:29 It's like, really? That's what you're going to go for us. Just hope you avoid road games in the AFC South. That's all. I need a backup quarterback. That's what it is. I got two. Literally your other quarterback never started a game.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I need to start a quarterback. All right. After that, I am going to make sure that I cover my bases on offense here. If I can't get Ligarup Blunt, I think I need J. Ajai. I want to feel good about, again, a folk hero at running back. maybe not as productive as some of the guys who I was considering here, but a player that played an important role for an important. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I think it's a good pick. Yeah. Okay. Do something a little bit cute. I get a guy that I really want. I am going to do something a little bit, a little bit. Ooh. I like all the guys at that position, too.
Starting point is 00:28:43 All right. I'm going to get another skill position player. and when you think about, I think, the purpose of this exercise to remember moments in time. Thrills that these players gave you, even if it was very fleeting. I have never experienced.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I don't think any of us have ever experienced. Anything. Like the month of Travis. Oh, yeah. Come on. Nothing like it. Unprecedented before it. he was the best receiver in football.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Inexplainable. For like four weeks in a row. Can't be explained it. It might have been a mass COVID hallucination on all of our parts. And then he was gone. Give me Travis Fulgum. It was a very fun stretch. A bright shining star.
Starting point is 00:29:38 It's a good pick. It's a really good pick. It's sad that like I am an Eagles beat reporter. I should know the answer. What ever happened to that guy? I know. I feel like we never got a real explanation of like, There's something clearly behind the scenes was going on
Starting point is 00:29:49 because he lost faith or like the team lost faith in him. Yeah. And you understand by then they moved on. But like even within that season, they stopped getting reps. It was crazy. It was a classic.
Starting point is 00:29:59 So I remember like, Dynasty fantasy football was like, oh, like this guy, like you could trade first round picks for, for Travis Fulgum. And people literally like made those kind of deals. And then he was gone just like that.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yeah, it was a very, a crazy anecdote from that, or a footnote from that season. All right. I couldn't decide which, way I was going to go here. On one hand, there's some really talented players,
Starting point is 00:30:25 guys that are different at different positions. I'm just going to say this right now. Go ahead. Because we're going to go to break after your first pick. Yeah. I feel like that's a little bit unfair that you are now getting two breaks to think about your second pick to EJ. So let's, the third break is going to be in the middle of an EJ pick.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Got it. Yeah, because I'm in the trenches here. He was really worried. He was really worried about it. Yeah, so you can take another quarterback. I will take, Donovan McNabb. I don't want to go there.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Give me. Give me Ronald Darby. I'll close out my, I'll close out my DB room with Ronald Darby who, look, his addition, again, going back to the Patrick Robbins, allowed Patrick Robbins in the slide inside,
Starting point is 00:31:10 and he gave them steady play throughout the course of that season on the way to the Super Bowl. So give me Ronald Darby. Good pick. There's the next player on that spot, I think. My last top tier. player. But I think the thing we most remember about Ronald Darby is being in very good
Starting point is 00:31:27 coverage and allowing a catch anyway. There were a number of players that fit that the exact description on my board that weren't on the Super Bowl team. So that's what gave him the edge for me. Man, the spreadsheet that you have for the draft is. It's really not in that. It's just color coding. It literally has three colors. Okay. Spread sheet, big spreadsheet guys over here. All right. Hang with us as the, we hardly flew the draft rolls on. This summer, declare your independence from hot, miserable sleep with Ashley's Stars and Stripes Mattress Sale. Stay cool all night with cooling mattresses starting at just $699.
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Starting point is 00:34:09 And to you. And to me. And you, and you, and you, energy. Let's go with my next pick here. Okay. mentioned the that one performance we remember from Kevin Curtis where he goes off in the first half
Starting point is 00:34:24 against the Detroit Lions. My player here has a similar type of performance. This one went in prime time. I believe it was Monday night football against the Carolina Panthers. First half runs for over 100 yards, including a 65-yard touchdown.
Starting point is 00:34:37 It was his first start since high school. Fun one. He'll be running back, Bryce Brown. Former number one recruit. you know, just fizzled out in college, goes in the seventh round to the Eagles in the 2012 draft. Only played two years here in Philly.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Got comparisons to Bo Jackson immediately after this performance. Give me Bryce Brown here in this spot. No sign-to-side lateral agility whatsoever. Nope. But if he could just get to the corner and hit the wheels, oh my gosh, it was wild.
Starting point is 00:35:08 You could see the big-time high school athlete in that spot. That's a fun one. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. All right, I'm going to do the one. This is the one that's maybe a little bit
Starting point is 00:35:22 against the spirit of the exercise, just a little bit. But he hits all the criteria, made a big impact in the time that he was here, and then he went and signed a deal with the Carolina Panthers for a whole bunch of money. Give me Jalen Phillips on my defensive line. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I mean, honestly, you would probably make the argument that he should have gone earlier. Yeah, I didn't even think about him. That's a good one. Depends on what you're going. for. Like if you're building a good team, yeah, he is better than a lot of, almost all the names of his own. Even when, even in, during the points of the season where it was fun, yeah, he was a big part of that. Absolutely. It was a part of the big vibes shift that that happened
Starting point is 00:35:58 to the middle of the season before the time went in a dark. So I'm happy to have Jill and Phillips. Okay. Um, I'm going to go with one player who is more in the line of like a productive player that, you know, maybe isn't like the name that's going to get the reaction at the party. and then I'll go with a name that is going to get the reaction at the party that's also going to fit the culture I'm building on defense. Who do you want first? Your draft, baby. I'm going to go with the name that's going to get the reaction.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And then as people come down from that reaction, I can say my other guy. I'm going to go with Michael Bennett. Again, just trying to get all the dogs on defense. You know, the little shoulder pads, swagger on the interior there. I want those mercenary defensive linemen and that he fits the bill for that. I'll give everybody a quick reset here. Okay. Okay, and read the roster.
Starting point is 00:36:43 So through seven rounds, Fran has filled his wide receiver running back tight end room with Kevin Curtis, Brian Mitchell, and Bryce Brown. No, Brian Mitchell was my special team. I apologize. Brian Mitchell is special teams. Okay. Kevin Curtis and Bryce Brown, one spot open.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Mackay Beckton on the offensive line. Jeff Garcia has the wild card. CJ Gardner Johnson and Ronald Darby at defensive back and Brian Mitchell at special teams. I've got Lagart Blunt and Travis. Fulgum, Stefan Wisniewski, Chris Long, Jalen Phillips, Patrick Robinson, and Christian Ellis. EJ is got Tori Smith, Jay Ajay, Mark Sanchez, Tim Jernigan, Michael Bennett, Rayvon LeBlanc, and Josh McCown.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Okay, I appreciate the reset here. I'm going to go with a player that my dad gave the stamp of approval to. The numbers would bear it out to. Somehow did not get recognition. Mark Seminole went on to have a decent career after the Eagles but I looked you know
Starting point is 00:37:46 it's 2003 season he had 102 total tackles he started all 16 games that season why are you smiling at me because you wanted him? No, it wasn't on my board
Starting point is 00:37:55 okay linebacker is a very interesting one because it was a very much a like professor of the dark arts position where like there was a constant rotation where they'd sign guys on one year deals especially the early stages of Andy and Seminoe was a part of that rotation but I found other guys
Starting point is 00:38:11 guys that I just had, because I only put, since we're only drafting one, I only had a board of five just so I had some names down. I needed at least one or two, like very productive players that are actually, that were good beyond just like, you know, having a reaction for the fans or that folk hero status. So he, well, so here's the thing is that he was like very much in the crosshairs because he was the replacement for Trotter. Yeah. So he got completely, he got consistently compared to Trotter. And even though like, you know, he had production and there was, he wasn't, he wasn't like a terrible player. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:41 But because he wasn't the ax man, he was, he very much came under fire. Okay. What? No, I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to do.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Um, no, you guys are, well, you can't take that guy. Good point in the chat. From, uh,
Starting point is 00:39:02 Joe 76, uh, G, backup kicker. Mark Simino stepped in. And Dave Davis got hurt against, I believe it was against the Raiders. And Mark,
Starting point is 00:39:09 Mark Semino, stepped in, and take extra points. What year was this? It was, uh, that would have been, oh, three.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Okay. I believe. I believe it was 03. Hmm. Um, but I would rather have him, even though he's a better pick. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Was 2003. Um. Oh, no, it was 2005. After the Super Bowl year. Mm. 2005. This is a weird pick.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Okay. But I like, a lot of these are weird picks. I'm happy to have this pick. Uh, You're looking, the offensive line we've talked about, it's pretty shallow. I'm going to fill my other offensive line spot. Yeah, this is tough.
Starting point is 00:39:52 With a player who is a good NFL offensive lineman. A backup. Cool. But forced into action. He's probably a below average starter, but he can be a below average starter at four different spots. More importantly, one of the best guys to talk to in the locker room, Wolfston's Super Bowl. Superstar. Happy to have him along for the ride here.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Give me Andrew Gardner on the roster, baby. Good one. That's a good one. There were a bunch of players from like that type of where, because that is the pool. Those are the ponds that were fishing in. It's like the guys that didn't really start. Like kind of the backups that were here for a couple of years.
Starting point is 00:40:32 That was one of the guys that I was like, oh, he played too long was, Alan Barber. I know four seasons. Yeah, four seasons. I thought that was like two years. I thought so too. I thought so too.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Andrew Garner, baby! That's good pick. Well, seeing as how E.J. is going to be boxed out of offensive linemen, I'm just going to take one now just to just to remove one. Yeah, just to make sure that he's definitely removed. I'm just going to cheat, so it'll be a waste anyway. So, yeah. Just letting you know that. Cam Jurgis has only played three years.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Pro Bowl. Right. That's true. You would never pick Cam Durk's. Anyway, hold it. Again, like, it's slim pickings along the offensive line. We'll relive an Eagles holiday. Honestly, it's not a great, they're not great memories from this one.
Starting point is 00:41:30 It's Stacy's Day. Give me Stacy Andrews. Oh, interesting. Yeah, give me Stacy Andrews. Yeah, it wasn't, it's kind of slim picking for guys that, like, play, you know, as a starter. I'll tell you who my other one was. I don't want to give them any ideas. I've got three other guys on there.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Just everybody just relax. That includes CDP in the chat. You don't need to start name an offensive lineman. Nate Herbig is not eligible. Yes, he is. No. Why is he not eligible? He played for four years.
Starting point is 00:41:55 No, he played for three. It was a rookie contract play. He played his rookie deal here. He played three seasons for the Eagles. I'm looking at it. What are you looking at? Pro football reference. Because that's that you got,
Starting point is 00:42:05 he wasn't, he was on the roster before that. Didn't count. No. You know what? I just said I'm going to cheat with the offensive linemen. So there we go. That's like like Jerome McDougal would be one. It's like, oh, like, he was on the roster,
Starting point is 00:42:18 but he was like on the NFI list because he got shot for a year. He missed a year and they missed another year. Not the same thing. Every day. He was not the same thing. Yeah, got shot for you. This is like, you know, so the story about the parking attendant where I was like, I wish I just said to him like, what are you going to do if I don't move?
Starting point is 00:42:33 What are you guys going to do if I cheat on the offensive line? What are you going to do? Well, what are you going to do if I cheat on the offensive line? Ridicule you. You are in front of the people that are watching? Do your worst. I'm going to feel great about it. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:48 For my next one, I'm going to take our second linebacker. This was definitely during the professor of the dark arts era. So this was a player that was in that role before the Eagles brought in Mark Seminole from Atlanta. I'm going to go Sean Barber. Now, Sean Barber signed over. He was with Washington, I believe, before the Eagles,
Starting point is 00:43:12 came in for 2002, was second on that team and tackles behind Brian Dawkins. One and done, one year deal, signed a big deal with Kansas City. Came back briefly a few years later. But Sean Barber had gave them a,
Starting point is 00:43:23 he was a really good season on that defense, which again, really, really good, one of the better defenses in football that year. So give me Sean Barber in that role. Okay. All right. Where are the spots that I need
Starting point is 00:43:37 that EJ also needs? Oh, my God. I can't even figure out the spots I need in here over there doing trigonometry. it's not that complicated I want to make a pick that's there's two defensive backs who I would
Starting point is 00:43:55 who are worthy of a pick here DB was tough DB is deep one of them is the one who should be the pick okay one of them is the guy who I just want on my team and is one of my guys and if I was looking at getting my guys on the roster he should be the pick but I could potentially use the wild card for him
Starting point is 00:44:12 I'm going to use the pick on the guy who deserves to be the pick here. Isaiah Rogers. Yeah, that's a good pick. Isaiah Rogers. Very good one season with the Eagles. We all remember it. It was not that long ago.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Then I went on to have a good season with the Vikings. I'm happy to have Isaiah Rogers here. That's a good one. DB was really good. I have a lot of names at DB. So, yeah, this was a co-and he was on that list. All right. Back to you.
Starting point is 00:44:39 No, it's E. Yeah, it is E. Okay. Wait, I thought you had another pick. I've been in the middle of the whole. whole time. All right. I'm going to make my first pick and then we're going to go to break.
Starting point is 00:44:49 We all need saturated sigh. Honestly, it's been 46 minutes. I feel great about it. Just been in the mess. Just laughing. Oh. All right. He was doing so good.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Next time you just have to switch seats to like the order your end. So he knows who just like that way. That way. It would have been nice. That's what I should have done to help E.J. I've been like, this is the order. Yeah, that's true. All right, how about we close Hogi Fest Hangout
Starting point is 00:45:20 and let EJ get 30 more seconds to think about his first pick here? Yeah, no, I was pretty unprepared for this. I think it might show. I'm going to go with Dominique Rogers-Kermardi as a corner. Okay. Does that feel appropriate? Yeah, he's eligible. Yeah, he's eligible, and he's on there.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Yep. Pretty sure he's eligible. Yeah, he's eligible. Yeah, he's eligible. I yeah yeah DRC Batman
Starting point is 00:45:46 I like the I like the RC yeah the Batman costume was a classic I have to work at a full slick
Starting point is 00:45:53 that was for a child definitely not for an adult full of did the whole media availability he was he was I like DRC
Starting point is 00:46:04 me too I don't need the break for this I can no no no no we need the break we need the break we need the break
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Starting point is 00:48:18 Back on the P.HL.I. Eagles podcast. E.J. on the clock in the we hardly flew the draft. And I'm just doing such a great job. You've got both offensive line spots, one offensive skill position player, defensive wildcard and special teams open. I definitely knew exactly the spots I had opened. I'm going to do my last skill position spot here. And I was tempted to go with a folk hero.
Starting point is 00:48:49 But I, instead I'm going to go with a player who I had fond memories of when I was growing up. And when I went to look back and see the stats, I was pleasantly surprised. And that's James Thrash. I enjoyed the James Thrash experience when I was a kid. and looking back, it's fun. You were a little kid. Yeah, I was, but I remember, that's like me remembering, enjoying watching him was like enough. And then looking back, he had basically the best three years of his career with the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:49:13 He started his career with the commanders, well, with Washington. And, yeah, successful with the Eagles, went back to Washington and was never really the same exact player that he was with the Eagle. So I thought that was a fun part of his story. And yeah, I mean, he passed the E.J. Smith, the second test when I called and was like, James Stash was like pretty good, right? So yeah, I'm going to round out my skill positions with him. He was just miscast. Like he was the number one receiver for that team for the majority of Donovan's rookie contract.
Starting point is 00:49:42 And he should have never been a number one receiver. It wasn't his fault. But he was a nice player. I mean, the one that stands out, the game winning touchdown against the Giants when they finally beat the Giants for the first time in years. That was a Monday night football. He caught a touchdown in the fourth quarter. It was probably the highlight.
Starting point is 00:49:56 But he was traded to Washington for a future. fifth round pick. Ooh, who did it become? A member of the 26th. Really? Trent Cole. Trent Cole. Mm.
Starting point is 00:50:08 All right. Good one there for James. Yeah, it's a good Eagles tenure. What's that? Cole Trent. Cole Trent. All right. I am going to do something a little bit sneaky.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Oh. For my, I'm going to fill my spot for the never started a game. Okay. Position. And I'm going to give this one a shout out. to Mr. Rodriguez. Give me Dicker the kicker. Mm.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Mm. Nice. Damn Dicker as mine never started. He was on my specialist this year. I like that. It's a good one. Um, all right. So I've got two here at the turn.
Starting point is 00:50:48 I'm going to go. You've got skill position, two defensive line, defensive wild card. It never started. Yep. I can wait on the defensive line because you guys have already selected, too, although you guys can do it. wild cards so I should probably get on that. Yeah, let's do that.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Yeah, it just occurred to me. I was like, oh, wait, they can still select wild cards there. All right, so. Do you ever read that, Lindsay? All right, let's do, hmm, here's a fun name. Shout out to Tommy Lawler, by the way, to our good friend, Tommy.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Derek Landry. Spark plug, defensive tackle, the later years of Andy Reid there, give me Derek Landry. the defensive tackles. My first pick. That's a fun remember that name. And then let's go.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Got lots of options at skill player. I'm just admiring the spreadsheet. He's got these like categories. Yeah, because we have to draft off category. No, but you've got like remember the name. Like no. That's not true. I can't read that.
Starting point is 00:51:56 That's not true. That's so much prep for. I appreciate it. All right. Let's go, I'm going to pass that. I'm going to pass that. All right. I am going to go,
Starting point is 00:52:11 I'm going to go with another defensive lineman. And this one is more of like a, oh, like if this guy just gets a chance, he's going to, he's going to do big things and he just didn't. I want to say he was probably a media favorite. Philip Hunt.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Yeah, I like Philpont. He's on my list. He was on my list. He was on my list. He was on my list. He goes on my list. I can't tell you.
Starting point is 00:52:33 I can't go up against Chris Long and Jalen Phillips. I'm a little bit underwhelmed by your choice as a defensive line. I like a Philippine, but. Yeah. Okay. At the end of this, we'll share the rest of the who's left on the board. I want to see who did I miss?
Starting point is 00:52:46 I'm sure I missed some good ones there. Oh, let's see you're having a great time over there with these names. Dicker, Hunt, it's all. Got to get on that. All right. Lineback you both have, so I don't need to take that now. It's a wild card. EJ could draft.
Starting point is 00:53:07 No, actually there's nothing I can draft that EJ can draft. Just draft your draft, man. You don't got to worry about me over here. All right, I'm going to take my linebacker because EJ could technically take a linebacker here. And this is another one where I think there's a guy who I should take and a guy that I want to take. And then a guy that I just want to mention.
Starting point is 00:53:36 We'll mention them at the end. We'll mention everybody at the ad. I think the right thing for me to do is take Kaiser White. Yeah, it's a good pick. Who I think is an underrated player from that one season, the 22 season, good enough to keep rookie Nikobe Dean completely off the field, was reliable. Then went on to have that crazy year with the Cardinals, but I'm happy to have Kaiser White as my linebacker.
Starting point is 00:53:59 He was a good player on that team. There were questions about him coming from the Chargers. Like, does he have staying power in the league? he came to Philly and it was lights out for that defense. So yeah, I think it's a good pick. All right. Over to your E.J. Can you remind me what I have?
Starting point is 00:54:15 You've got offensive line. You have two offensive line spots, your defensive wild card, and your special teamer. Okay. And a quarterback. I do not need another quarterback. Quarterback factory over here. I'm going to go offensive line first. I can't wait to see where these go.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Feel better about this. I'm actually not going to cheat for the first one. I'm going to go with Bo's boy. Coyote, how is sheka. Okay. Good one. I mean, we're just going for cult heroes here because, again, hard to find guys who've played a lot of football for the Eagles that would fit this criteria. After that, I, so you said I have defensive wild card specialist and which else, another offensive lineman?
Starting point is 00:54:54 Yes. I'm just going to cheat on the offensive lineman now. No, you know what? I'm going to go with my defensive wild card. And I'm going to take Indomacan Su. A fun Eagles player, it's fun that he was there for a little bit. I think he fits a wild card descriptor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Because he was a little bit of a wild card. And I mean, you could make an argument that him and another member that I won't name in case one of you guys wants to wax poetic about them soon. Maybe they don't make it to the Super Bowl that year without Indamacan Suu. Yeah, I think he took the wrong one. I think Indomaconsu is more of the wild card. Just more of it. I want a couple of players like, oh yeah, he played for the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:55:30 So that's why I went with him instead of Linvall. I think Linval is a way better player. way more impactful I'm not arguing that I'm not arguing that I'm just arguing I'm just going for names man I'm drafting my team over here
Starting point is 00:55:43 well in the spirit of that I will draft I will draft my guy at the skill position there's there's two guys I have left on the board no there's three guys I have left on the board but
Starting point is 00:55:59 I got it I mean it's elder buckley It's not Algebra. It's not Algebra Buckley, really? Oh, wow. Shout out to Algebraicke, the most nude eagle of my time having the team. I thought for sure that was going to be the pick. It's not Algebra Buckley.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Although Algebra Buckley, I believe, does have their, I was looking at it. I think of it maybe most games played by a non-specialist who didn't start a game. Okay. He could be here, he could be here, a guy there. I'm just going to take one of the true bottom of my heart cam crushes there's ever been.
Starting point is 00:56:42 He's on my board. Boy, was I right. DeAndre Carter is my last skill position player. You got a fun position group. Yes. Skill position group. Ligari Blunt, Travis Fulgum, DeAndre Carter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:00 All right, Fran, you've got three spots left. Three spots left. Skill, defensive wild card, and never started. All right. let's go skill first and man i've got there are so many options uh you guys already filled up you guys already filled up yes i'll save all the all the names for later i'm gonna go give me jordan howard i i really likes jordan howard when he was with uh when he was with the eagles and obviously the wheels kind of fell off from a from a like the injury standpoint um but i to me like he was exactly
Starting point is 00:57:35 what they needed for that offense uh and they they missed his presence uh when he left so Give me Jordan Howard there. I like that. That's a good pick. Yeah, it's a good pick. He's a nice guy too. Yeah, I like Jordan Howard. All right, and then I have defensive wildcard and guy who never started.
Starting point is 00:57:54 So I saved these two players as like, oh, that's a fun name. So I'm trying to decide which I want to save for like the final one. For my defensive wild card, I'm going to go with a guy who was just like, ah, this is like one of the all what could have been team, which could be its own segment or its own show. It's like, what could have been? I'm going to go with J.R. Reid. Okay. Safety, the safety who was drafted, 2002 or 2003.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Has the rookie year. He's really good on special teams. Looks like he could be like a player on defense. And he was jumping a fence in the off season. Gets caught in the fence. Has like this freak injury that like it was nerve damage to his leg. And it was like questions about whether he'd ever play again. Came back.
Starting point is 00:58:38 He missed the whole year. Came back. had to wear like a special like tailor made brace I was able to carve out like a nice career as like a special teamer after that but never was able to kind of reach that upside and what you hoped for as a rookie.
Starting point is 00:58:52 So J.R. Reed for me. Played two years in Philly to start his career. I like that. Okay. I'm going to use my offensive wild card spot and I'm happy to add this personality to the team. We talked about last week
Starting point is 00:59:11 the really fun season that Leonard Weaver had as one of three guys no he's not eligible he was an all pro one of three players this century to make an all pro team his first year on the team
Starting point is 00:59:25 not eligible but how did the Eagles go about replacing Leonard Weaver how do they add that intensity to the team how can I add it to my team welcome to the squad.
Starting point is 00:59:42 The great. Owen Schmidt. Owen Schmidt. Nice. That's a good one. Yeah, I like that. He was like the last true fullback that they have the roster.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Yeah, that's a good one. Are we, uh, we're in Bovertime. We are in Bovertime. Oh, my funny story about Bovertime. My dad was hanging out with my niece and nephew, so he's having some good grandpop bonding time. Yesterday he's on the phone with,
Starting point is 01:00:13 or no, this morning. He was on the phone. with me we were talking about great eagles and he goes like all right it's time for me to go like you know me and uh your niece and nephew are going for breakfast time so i really enjoyed that this like the nice so i've got specialist and defense or offensive line yeah no no you've got offensive line and special teams yeah special teams yeah um i'm gonna cheat on both of these and i don't What are you guys going to do about it? I'm going to stretch a little bit.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I don't think that this is stretching, though. It's a special teams contributor, right? A special team's ace, I can fit into this category. I'm going with Oren Berks. Played a very important role. He was a special teams contributor throughout the regular season, and obviously he started in the Super Bowl. Played an important role for one of the greatest teams in NFL history.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I don't think that's cheating. I think that's fine. Yeah, that one is less of a stretch. my last offensive lineman the barren wasteland I'm taking Fred Johnson and I don't know no no no he's already played four years
Starting point is 01:01:18 not eligible no he's played three hasn't it this will be his fourth year he's not eligible it's his fourth year he's not eligible I thought you're going to do Tyler Steen he's not eligible he's at three years you can take David Mulk you can take Kyle DeVan
Starting point is 01:01:33 you can take this would be his fourth year you can take chance war Matt Howie Rosevin said it the world could end tomorrow we don't know if he's not eligible he's already practiced this He's not going to put an asterisk on my team. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:01:44 No, you're not allowed to finish. You're not done yet. I mean, I've got, I'm looking at Wikipedia. He joined the team during the 2020 season. So it's 2022, 22, 2023, 2024, 2024, 2025. Fine. Give me a chance, Wormick, and you can still put an asterisk on my team. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Warmac is good. Wormack's fine. I have a question. Your rules, you're saying like he practiced at spring practice. So, like, that starts his fourth year. What would that count for like, if this was the whatever? I think it's fifth year for pension or health benefits. Would it count for the league?
Starting point is 01:02:16 That's in a crude season. It's like you're going to play a certain amount of games. So I think EJ's good. No, he's not. Plus, the guy, plus he was on practice broad here before. You guys.
Starting point is 01:02:26 You've put your thumb on the scale enough in EJ's direction today. He needs it. Fumbled it. Tipped the scale over. All right. My last spot is for defensive wild card. And there's just, there's guys that have a like.
Starting point is 01:02:41 So many. I don't know who to take. I could take Linval Joseph. Yep. I got to take one of two guys. Okay. Because this is, for me, this is a personal, romantic thing, harkening back to the beginning of my time covering the team.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Two guys who I really were, like, before the Bow Wolf Camp Crush existed, these are my guys. But I'm going to settle on one of them. Truly one of my favorites. linebacker Moses Focke. Oh yeah, you did love him. I loved Moses. He was one of my favorite guys in that locker room.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Great guy in the locker room. And you know what? A good player. He was. He was here for three seasons. Yep. Two years in which he was a rotational starter. Yep.
Starting point is 01:03:34 And a good player. So I'm happy to have Moses Foku on my team. Akeem Jordan was one of the players where I was like, oh, he played four years. Yeah. That was one where I caught me off guard. And that same lineback. We'll do the naming guys after you finish. All right.
Starting point is 01:03:48 So my last one is the guy who never started. I was saving like, oh, that's a fun name to remember. Ifani MoMA. A Fani MoMA. Wow. Give me Afani Moma. Former. Fonima.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Than that is the man. Yes. Give me, who was making the conversion from wide receiver at Boston College to, to tight end. Failed experiment, but fun name. And National Writers came in during training camp. It said like, oh, don't hold this guy out.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Keep an eye out on Afani Moma. And obviously, that did not come to the first of a show. Brand's team. Kevin Curtis. Jordan Howard. Bryce Brown. Mackay Beckton. Stacey Andrews.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Jeff Garcia. Derek Landry. Philip Hunt. Sean Barber. C.J. Gardner Johnson. Ronald Darby. J.R. Reed. Brian Mitchell.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Afony Moma. A fun team. Fun team. My team. I didn't tell you this. Because I didn't want to, I didn't want to. I didn't want to affect your board.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Okay. But I was committed to only drafting guys I covered. Got it. So I was only drafting guys since 2009. That makes sense. That would have affected my board. Legerrett Blunt. Travis Fulgum.
Starting point is 01:05:02 DeAndre Carter. Stefan Wisnuski. Andrew Gardner. Owen Schmidt. Chris Long. Jalen Phillips. Kaiser White. Isaiah Rogers.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Patrick Robinson. Moses Foku. Christian. Ellis and Cam Dicker. I mean, I think we know who won this game. E.J. Tori Smith. Jay Ajai.
Starting point is 01:05:28 James Thrash. Coyote Awashika. Chance Warmac. Mark Sanchez. Tim Jernigan. Michael Bennett. Mark Siminole. Rayvon LeBlanc.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Dominique Rogers Grimardi. Domican Sue. Orrin Berks and Josh McCann. It's just the Mark Sanchez thing. The rest of it's fine. I love my defense. The Mark Jan— Mark Sanchez pick was.
Starting point is 01:05:48 a little bit of a force. It just doesn't hit the ear really well. That one's straight. Yeah, that's tough. Some guys. You want to name some guys? Yeah. Should we go like who's left on the board?
Starting point is 01:06:00 It's that offensive skill. Who's left on the board? Okay. Zach Pascall. Nice one. Josh Adams. Oh, good one. Good one.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Good name. Dion Lewis, who I wanted to, he was in contention for never starting. Yes, he was a, but all of his, he was not good here. They just traded him too early. And then Jerome Harrison,
Starting point is 01:06:17 who had, who had that one awesome game. I had Golden Tate, your boy. I would never have taken him, but just wanted to have them on there just so I could get in a reaction out of you. Antonio Freeman and Dorsey Levens, both on that same 2002 team coming from Green Bay.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Ryan Matthews, who just, it's a shame, just got, like the injuries just took their toll on him. James Casey. Yeah, I like James Casey. If you wanted a tight end. Yep, but the guy that I left at the top of the board and it was just, you know, it was a long time ago. But he's, to me, like, he was a good,
Starting point is 01:06:47 player was Charles Johnson. He was a fine a fine player. So he was he was Donovan's first number one receiver under Andy Reed. I have full disclosure. Some of these guys might not have been eligible as I went through my list. Devante Smith. No, Jordan Matthews. Why? No Jordan Matthews. He's eligible, right? I don't think so. I think he's eligible. I might. I don't know if. Oh, you know what it is? He came back in 2019. Yeah. So that that ruined it. I, Julio Jones, just for the fun of That's what that is what ruined it. He came back in 2018 and 2019. Yeah, because he only spent the first three years.
Starting point is 01:07:21 If he had never come back, he would have been eligible. Richard Rogers and Hank Basket were the other guys. I was going to put Dick Rod on there. I mean, yeah, you can, it's over time. We can call him Dick Rod. Yep, it's a good one. I thought it was here too long. Dick Rod?
Starting point is 01:07:35 Four years of Dick Rod? Because he just kept coming back. Yeah, he's too long. Yeah. I'm sneaking him in here. Who's this guy? That's the, that's the, the playwright
Starting point is 01:07:48 or the more than one dick rot out there yeah sure is offensive line we talked about pretty slim picking so many years
Starting point is 01:07:57 I had David Mulk and Kyle Devan undrafted that was it Demetra Spell Demetre Spell had on mine yeah it was slim picking
Starting point is 01:08:05 his offensive line defensive line we left some meat on the bone yeah Linval Joseph as we talked about yeah
Starting point is 01:08:11 Thomas Booker Alodi Nata Amma Darrell Tap was one. Oh, that's a bad one. That's a bad miss by me. I should have taken tap over Phillip Hunt. I wanted to put Hunt in there
Starting point is 01:08:24 because there was just like a fun name. But there's one more. I haven't even said the guy who I liked the most. Who? Antonio Dixon. Oh, big Dix. Lindsay? Linebacker.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Wait, wait, what about Chris Gokong? He was here way too long. No. Wasn't he? I thought it was... I'm using a pro football. You did the other thing with the three years.
Starting point is 01:08:47 It's a rookie contract, though, I'm pretty sure. He's a player as rookie. 06, 07, 08,09, yeah, four years. I had Joe O'Sman on mine, too. Oh, that's fun. That's a fun name. Linebacker. Will Witherspoon.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Cool, good name. Remember, that's a lot of awesome night, Monday night football after they traded for him. Joe Mays, Ernie Sims, Ian and Clayton. Yeah. And most importantly.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Brian Roll That's the thing linebacker there are a lot of names Alex Singleton actually counted Yeah He did qualify I just assumed that he didn't Yeah no
Starting point is 01:09:27 Singleton qualified Dehany Jones qualified I like the guitar celebration A must A must to see And then Nate Wayne Nate the Great
Starting point is 01:09:37 Another shout out to Tommy Lawler Let's go Nate Wayne there Okay Defensive backs Anthony Harris Good one That's a good one Nomdi
Starting point is 01:09:46 man it's a shame that you go well you have to include them I thought about it put on a wire Roussel qualifies which wasn't happening here I liked the Ellis Hobbs experiment experience and then the guy who I really almost took at the very end Walter Thurmond no I thought you were gonna do it who was it
Starting point is 01:10:03 no the man who I agreed with baldy when he told us in the middle of this season that the Eagles had the best pair of starting cornerbacks in the NFL in Asante Samuel and Dimitri Patterson Oh, it's a good one.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Yeah, Tamichie Passon's a good name. I put Nolan Carroll in there. Okay. Brandon Boykin. Oh, Brandon, I was not sure that he qualified, but he did.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Yep, they traded him before that. He traded him before his working deal was up. Walter Thurmond. And I threw Carrie Williams in there. I kind of, I just like that. I like Carrey Williams.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I like Carri Williams. Yeah, I like, I like Carrie Williams. Okay. A lot of corners, a lot of, a lot of DBs. And then the other guys I have on here as potential special teams,
Starting point is 01:10:45 ACEs, La Roy Reynolds. Craig James Duke Riley Dura Calvin And then never started the game I could have gone Elijah Riley And there's also T.W. McGill
Starting point is 01:10:59 And that's... You know it was close for never started a game? Now listen, he is technically on the roster right now But Marlon Toy Poulotu has only started one game in his Eagles pretty good He'd be a fun one. Yeah Sean Mori was a special teamer
Starting point is 01:11:13 I was a really good special teamer for a long time in the NFL I started his career here in Philly. Damaris Johnson. Yeah, I like Damaris. Yep. This is his high school once. No, that's right.
Starting point is 01:11:25 For never started. I had Dionne Lewis in there. MoMA, Rahim Mostert. And then I threw in Henry Josie. I was like, oh, Henry Josie. I feel like that was an Alex Smith favorite. Henry Josie? Yeah, I think that's right.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I think that's right. All right. I would tell you to tell us who you think one, but we all know who they We all know who the answer to that is. What we got? I love seeing some of these names in here, though. Stuart Bradley.
Starting point is 01:11:55 This is my bow wolf, back-to-back super swordcasting champion. These are the bows eating up the little EJ and a little friend. They're very little. You really got to get close to realize what's going on with the shirt.
Starting point is 01:12:15 onto a t-shirt. John High Tower. I got the P. H.L.M. John Hightower. James Bradbury. Someone said, James Bradbury. Yeah, we forgot.
Starting point is 01:12:25 He was all pro. He was all pro. He was all pro. But say, that really should be. You guys got a comment and tell us who we missed. Who were your favorite cult heroes,
Starting point is 01:12:34 folk heroes? Just great Eagles that were only here for a few years. Elijah Holyfield, that's a good one. That's a fun one. Man, the T.Y. McGill wants a bad miss. That was a good call for you.
Starting point is 01:12:43 That was a good one. At the end there. I didn't, I should. I would have picked them if I had them on my board. That's what I mean. Like, like,
Starting point is 01:12:48 I didn't even have on my board. Yeah. That's a good one. All right, everybody. Thank you for watching. Thank you for listening. We will talk to you on Monday,
Starting point is 01:12:57 Monday a special Eagles 26 episode. Looking forward to that. Thank you, Lindsay, for making it happen behind the scenes. Talk to you later. Enjoy the weekend, everybody. And as always, we love you.
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