PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Eagles-Commanders preview: Tanner McKee takes center stage

Episode Date: January 2, 2026

It’s a Friday four-hander, with Fran Duffy, EJ Smith and Deniz Selman in studio to preview Sunday’s regular season finale as Tanner McKee gets his chance to prove himself as a starting-caliber quarterback while throwing to the likes of Darius Cooper, Jahan Dotson and maybe even Cam Latu? Deniz breaks down the playoff scenarios before a riveting edition of Swooper. Don’t miss it. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello, everybody, and welcome to the P-H-L-Y Eagle Show live from the X-F-FINITY Studio, the first show of 2026, presented by Bed 365, and Ashley. I'm Bo Wolf, Fran Duffy, the professor, Danes, is here. How's everybody doing? How was your new year? New Year was great. We had great football on. It was a fun few days, for sure.

How about you? How was your newspaper slinging? Oh, it was great. Yeah, yeah, I've got the lucky hat back. You know, it was undefeated in the playoff season last year. So here we go. Extra, extra, read all about it. Here's the Eagles playoff scenarios.

I do enjoy this. Loopy Friday. How are we doing? E.J. is going to be joining us in a little bit. He's at the Novakar Complex now. Talking to the players, just chatting it up, figuring out what's going on locker room who's going to play all that good stuff we'll unpack that we'll talk about what we expect who we expect to see on sunday we'll get to swooper but let's start with the big takeaway presented

by xfinity you know could have been takeaway could have been deal could have been just something else but this is the big takeaway presented by xfinity professor break down what is at stake on sunday who might the eagles be seeing in a week Yeah, so the current odds of who the Eagles will face in Wild Guard weekend, we can start with that, Lindsay. I think we have a graphic for this. As of now, and I'm using implied win probabilities based on money lines for this weekend. Right now, there's a 45% chance that the Eagles will host the Los Angeles Rams. Now, this brings up an important pedantic argument that I had with E.J. on the Anthony Gargano show this morning.

He said it's most likely the egos will play the Rams. And I said, E.J., it is not most likely the egos will play. It is not likely that they don't than they do. Yeah, it's a plurality rather than a majority. It is more likely that they will not play the Rams. That's true. If those are the two options. Now, of the three things that can happen,

the most likely is that they play the Rams. So it depends on which you mean. How long did this go out for? You have to frame the sentence. You say the Rams are their most likely opponent, but they are not likely to play the Rams. Every philosophy class I took in college I felt like came down to this kind of

Like what's your definition Like every single thing would be like a debate For weeks and weeks and it would be like Yeah but like in the end it would just come down To what's your definition so This seems like an example of it depends on what the definition of is I'm sure it was enjoyable though I'm sorry I missed that I'll have to go back and watch

How long did the back and forth last? It was more than it did we kept going back to it got it Got it the second most likely thing Is that it's the 49ers That's a 29% And for those of you wondering why are the Rams more likely than the 49ers? These are obviously the two cases

where the Eagles don't get the two seed. It's because for it to be the Rams, it requires either the 49ers to win tomorrow night against Seattle or for the Rams to lose on Sunday. Either of those means the Rams drop to the 6. The only way the 49ers can be the 6 is if they lose

and the Rams win. So because that's two things that need to happen, it's less likely than that happens. But even though they are, these are narrow point spreads, chalk, if all the favorites win, it would be the Niners coming here. Yes, but because it's two things

that would have to happen. Seattle winning, Seattle is still favorite to win that game in San Francisco. The Rams have the benefit, which the Eagles don't have, of knowing whether their game matters. Like, they're going to get to wait and watch and see if San Francisco loses,

and if San Francisco loses. It's a real benefit. Look, the first time I was ever on Birds with Friends, if you remember, like the first rant I ever had. I promise you, I don't remember. was about the, you'll remember when I tell you, the Saturday double header and the competitive advantage issues

that come with pre-committing to having two games on Saturday that all the Sunday teams get to watch and see what happens. It's very hard to find two games that aren't going to then impact the Sunday games. And here the Rams benefit a lot from getting to sit back and watch

and be like, oh, our game doesn't mean anything? Let's rest our starters. Nick Siriani would love that if the Bears played Saturday, right? He would love that. But instead, the Rams get that advantage I get it it's just going to happen but

because if Seattle loses then the Rams are locked into the 6th because Seattle can't fall to the 6th and then the Rams have nothing to play for when we talk about the Eagles resting starters this is a factor right because if you play Green Bay you know they're going to be rested

they're not playing for anything yeah and there's a decent chance that the Rams will be rested as well the main scenario in which you're playing against a team that isn't rested is if it's San Francisco so and that's that's the, you know, that's one of the less likely ones. It goes to the Nick Seriani quote, though, where he said, you know, I can't guarantee the two seed, but I can guarantee the rest.

Yes. And we're absolutely going to, yeah, I'm absolutely going to go through, like, to what degree he can't guarantee the two seed in a second. The other famous quote, of course, being, oh, they're talking a lot of Mublow, not so much now. Not so much now. Not so much anymore, is what it is what it was. Now, 26% chance the Eagles do get the two seed. I like how I've, I've, I've been trying to say three numbers, and here we are. I've just said the third one, 26% chance of it being Green Bay. Would you agree that that's the least likely of the three?

I would agree with that, yes. And that, of course, involves the Eagles winning and the Bears losing. So the Bears, as of now, are given a 60% chance of beating the Lions, if you believe the money line. Yeah. And so that is the, basically, the percentage chance that the Eagles game just doesn't matter at all. So we can talk about the kind of like the pros and cons of wrestling players. We can do it now or we can do it.

We can do it later. Well, let's wrap up the big takeaway presented by Xfinity. Thank you very much to our lovely handsome partners at Xfinity. Okay, let's get into the classy, fetching, intelligence. I just want to make sure you don't get fan fished. Yeah. I mean the Dick Clark thing was I couldn't believe that happened

I literally almost broke me as I was listening to that one for the first time you were invited to Dick Clark's house sure was so you wanted to have a rocking time watching the game this was this year okay I guess it's better than you have to realize

it used to be like children's houses let's think they'd do that live while trying to be quiet so that he could do it without be like I'm just sitting here almost lost in three separate times during that read one take I mean okay

I'm going to put on my my paper boy hat here I'm going to put on my economics which I don't usually do on the show I don't usually I don't usually do like economics expected utility probability but that's kind of what this is right

that's what we get the views the Eagles are yeah that's right that's right all the clicks. I'll try to keep it simple, okay? Like I said, the money line suggests that Chicago has a 60% chance of winning this game against Detroit. In that scenario, the Eagle's game means nothing, right? Right. That means there's a 40% chance. It means something. And now the question is, what does it mean, right? Well, it means you can get the two seed by winning. In the wild card round, that means that there's a 40% chance that winning this game lets you play Green Bay. instead of playing San Francisco or the Rams.

So in the wildcard round, that's the benefit of winning the game. In the divisional round, it could mean that you get a home game. However, here's the thing. If you're the two-seed, you get the home game for sure, if you're there. But if you're the three-seed, you can also get the home game. Correct. So what you have to do is you have to do the probability difference between getting the home game as the two-seed versus getting it as the three-seed.

How would you get it as the three-seed? The bears could lose to Green Bay. The Bears could be the two seed and lose to Green Bay. Right. And so you kind of have to, you have to subtract, like, 100% if you're the two-see to get a home game in the second round. What are the odds the bears would lose to Green Bay? I'm guessing the money line would say it's going to be like 35, 40. Let's call it 40, just to be clean with the math.

That means that you're improving your odds of getting a home game in that round by 60%. And that is only conditional on the 40% that the game matters at all. Right. So you multiply those two together, about 25% chance. that winning this game will help you get a home game in the second round. And it makes no difference in the championship game. None at all.

And that's something that a lot of people have said, like, oh, good chance the two seed would host the championship game exactly the same as the three seed hosting the championship game because the two and the three can't play each other in the championship game. So you get a home game if the one seed loses, that has nothing to do with whether you're the two or the three. So that's something I've heard that is just wrong. It doesn't conditional on you being there,

nothing to do with whether either two or the three that you're at home. So the benefit of winning this game, game expires before the championship round. It's just the first two rounds. Now, we have 40% chance of helping the first round by having a better, easier opponent, 25% chance of helping the second round, which then brings us to how much win probability do you sacrifice by resting the starters? Right. Right now, the Eagles are still favored to win this game. Okay, they just announced Laramie Monsul is out, Marcus Mariotta's out, they're probably, they're probably tanking. A team that is incentivized to lose. Exactly. And so the Eagles are

given right now a 65% chance to win the game by the money line, you then have to ask, how much would that have been if the starters had been playing? Earlier in the week, it was 75%. But that wasn't with the knowledge that it was going to be the starters. Right. So you could theory 80. You can squint and call it maybe 85 even. Let's be generous and call it 85. So you're sacrificing a 20% win probability by resting people. So those earlier numbers, the 40% and the 25%, you actually have to multiply that by 20% to get to the actual amount you're sacrificing your playoff situation.

So the Eagles are basically sacrificing an 8%. They're lowering their odds of playing Green Bay by 8% by resting people. They're lowering their odds of a second round home game by 5%. That's pretty, those are pretty small numbers. And as Nick said today, 100% chance that you get to rest when you choose to rest.

And so the question becomes, how much does playing Green Bay how much is it worth you and then multiply it by 8% how much does having a home game in the second round how much is that worth to you multiply that by 5% add them together

is that bigger than the advantage of resting and I would say that they made the right decision now do I think they like sat down and did all I'm sure the analytics team well my question yeah my one of my questions is do you think that is how it was explained to Nick or do you think it was hey Nick do you remember when you went to the Super Bowl

you had a week of rest both those times. Let's just do that again. I was just going to say, like I think that this is how it was probably explained to Nick Howie and Jeffrey all together. Howie and Jeffrey probably took it to heart to some degree. Nick, based on what he said today, I think was given this understanding that like,

look, you don't guarantee the two seed, but you do guarantee the rest. Yes. The percentages aren't, you know, maybe like didn't like register. But yeah, is Nick just saying, I won the Super Bowl last year and A.J. Brown got hurt two years ago,

like very anecdotal? Right, maybe. Maybe, but, like, those anecdotes bring you to the same place that this analysis does. So, I am surprised, by the way, that it was this clear to me that resting was the better decision. Like, I did not come into this exercise. Like, when I sat down with these numbers earlier in the week, like, I thought it would be closer. I thought it would be like. It took you longer to get to the same conclusion that we had on Tuesdays.

Well, I am, you know how much I care about seating and playoff seating, and I spend all my time figuring it out. And it's like the whole regular season is for a seed. So as soon as you tell me, like, a seat is on the line, like, I would be, like, play normally. But because the odds of it making a difference are so small and because you're playing against the team that's incentivized to lose and you're probably going to win anyway, it makes it so that the rest does seem like the better idea, especially when you watch the film of, like, Landon and Cam and, like, they look like they just came out of a hospital on every snap. Like, it's like maybe that week of rest will actually help them.

It also, it comes down to, like, what, I don't think they're scared of, going to Chicago. I mean, you would rather have that game at home. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think if the two seed, like if the Rams were the two seed, right, right, I think they might approach it differently. I agree. Now, this is one of those two where, like, yeah, when you look at, like, the benefit in the second round,

it shouldn't be as simple as home versus a way. Right. Because there's even a world, it's not every scenario, but there's a scenario where the quote-unquote benefit you get in the second round is like hosting the Rams instead of going to Chicago. Right. And a lot of people would argue,

Those are, like, equally difficult games. Like, you know, like, so you might not even be getting an easier game. Obviously, you want to be at home. As a fan, I want to be at home. I want to be at the stadium. But, like, if you're, if the away game is at Chicago and the home game is against, like, Rams or Seattle or whatever, because that home game in one scenario would be, like, the four or five winner that you're hosting, right? Depending on what happens in the other game.

So, yeah, absolutely, I agree. It's one of those weird years where, like, there isn't a game that you're, like, really trying to avoid in the path. so okay so i think they made the right decision is the bottom line and i haven't heard too much pushback on that right like there aren't there aren't that many people around the town who are saying like they should be playing yeah i think they've you made the hospital joke but i think everybody's been watching them they're like yeah they could use the they could use the rest i think it's between that the a j brown and then the logical approach that you took like there's enough angles that you can look at the situation and say yeah it makes sense for them to rest yeah

now if they lose the game by one point and the bears lose like people will say in hindsight, like, oh, man, would have been nice to play. But that's silly. That's like saying after you fail on fourth and one that you should have punted. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, like, we're not going to play that game. So, all right, let's use that opportunity

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That will eventually morph into a four-hander. How do you guys doing? Professor, you got some film questions. Yeah. Real quick before that, because we're talking about scenarios. Well, a lot of people, a lot of people have been asking me, I don't know, like they're asking me because I'm the playoff scenario guy, I guess, like, when are the Eagles going to play? Like, what time is the game going to be? Because, you know, my nephew's party is Sunday, you know, stuff like that. A friend texting me earlier today wants to plan her daughter's birthday party There you go

One thing to consider is that The NFL chose two Saturday NFC games for week 18 And ESPN is almost surely going to choose The AFC 4-5 game for Monday night football Which makes me think that it might be two NFC games on Saturday The way that it was two AFC games last year But someone pointed out

I didn't realize this someone pointed out the Flyers play at home Saturday night at 7, which means that if they don't want a conflict with the Flyers, the Eagles just flat out can't play Saturday, like, at either time, 430 or 8. And so that means the Eagles would play Sunday, and then it could be, once it's Sunday, it could be any time on Sunday, right? So that's kind of where the window. Does it, do Fox and CBS have 1 o'clock and 4 o'clock?

So the last three years, the last three years, Fox has had the 4th, 30 game on wildcard weekend and CBS has had it on divisional weekend. I don't know if that's like a long-term contract thing or if it's like something that just happened to be that way the last three years or maybe they like each year they decide based on the teams like how it's going to be. But my guess is there will only be one NFC game on Sunday, but I also guess that that will be the Eagles right now unless they try to move the Flyers game or something. But like I don't think you do you think that the team's playing this Saturday?

will automatically be slotted into so they don't have an extra day of rest or will they end of... Well, they couldn't be if they're playing the Eagles, right? Like if it's San Francisco, you know? So that's the thing, like... Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. The Flyers...

I'm pretty sure... I'm worried about the flyers... Don't you get the sense? It's such a mess down there even without the Flyers for Eagles games. They've had... They've had Phillies playoff games. Yeah, exactly.

Not at the same time. I think they have. No, it's always been Eagles at one. Philly's playoff and flyers Oh, okay, interesting. Well, they've never had

Eagles and Phillies playoffs overlap. It's been 1 o'clock Eagles night Phillies. Okay. Because I've been to both, like there have been times where I went to both games.

Like, there was enough time in between, so, yeah. Yeah, took two outfits down there. It was nice. World Series against me? So if you had so water gun to your nipple, you would get.

I'd guess Sunday 430. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Lovely. There you go. All right.

What are your film questions? Fran has been sitting here in the, like, wide open in the corner all game long. We haven't passed on the ball. I mean, look, I got to let the, I got to let Wharton boy do his thing. Better than Paperboy. Is it, though? Not really, no. It's actually not.

all right so fran i heard you on monday show uh talking about how upset you were about the film here and how this kind of shows that there was no reason to be encouraged from the week before and here he comes stumping for the offense i well no i mean i this was a terrible terrible performance by the offense there were some positives in the first half and that i'm wondering i wanted to ask you about those like whether you thought that these were that these were that these were positive and and whether you think that like this these maybe you can take something out of because they were different than the Washington ones if well that's so here's the thing right the difference between the Washington ones and then this game plus the previous two that was my reason for being upset last week okay you like consistency yes they is they haven't committed to anything they haven't committed right thing and I think they I think the schizophrenia yeah yeah all right so I mean you mentioned this on Monday as well but just as a reminder to to to to to the audience like the under center play action right for the record I like under center play action I've been calling for it for years right I just don't like it when they feel like they have to run

the ball seven times from under center first right to get to it so I thought it was actually a positive that they came out first play of the game first play the game under center play action they ended up with seven plays of under center play action in the game only one in the second half only too successful but there's one where jelan doesn't make the throw there's one jay the one a jay Yeah, there's no, there's no like, like schematic problem with these understander play action plays. Like, I thought that was good. So that was a positive. I also thought it was a positive that they had answers against Buffalo's blitzes and exchange pressures in this game.

I counted in the first half, Buffalo blitzed five times, including three that involved exchanges. So they like blitzed two and dropped one, you know, that kind of thing, right? All in the first half. All in the first half. Eagles were five for five on those plays, 33 yards, a touchdown, 80% success rate. And the only unsuccessful one, they got closer on. a field goal and I think that was kind of their goal on that one they turned a 51 yard field goal into a 47

yard field goal so those were all throw the parade I thought those were positives well he made the field goal won the game by one point just saying now segue to the second half my lota says 29th in success rate but shortened one field goal by five

by four yards that's right hang the banner I'm focusing on the positives here we already know that the game ended with 15 consecutive unsuccessful plays which is almost unbelievable to end the regular season like that, by the way, for the starters. Like, how about that? And then you sit on that for two weeks.

Segway to the second half. Myelata said Buffalo did a much better job of disguising where the Blitz was coming from. I always like listening to them talk about why things didn't go well. Jalen said they started playing a lot more man coverage on early downs. Yeah. Very funny that that has been effective against the Eagles this year. And then the game ends with 15 consecutive unsuccessful plays. Like what a way for the starters to go into the playoffs.

Now, Jalen's talking about the three. There were three early down man coverage. There weren't that many dropbacks in the second half. There were only eight. O for seven and a sack. That's bad, by the way. That's 0% of success rate by the advanced metrics. Now, there was a first intent on the first drive

where they ran exactly the same play that he missed Devante. I don't know if you remember that one. The same play out of 13th percent of the same play. Just the other side of the field. Exact same one. And Devante was open in that void in cover two. and then it was man coverage and so they

and so they could get it all over it yep have you noticed a pattern of they run a play that only works against one coverage it doesn't really have any other answers the only other route on the play is Dallas got it running a flat which Jalen half-heartedly threw and almost got intercepted and this is the play for the people that watched at home that Brady called it out on the broadcast and said like

yeah usually when we run these kind of plays like I like having more than one answer he called that out on the broadcast and said like it's weird that you would call that they stated max protection right had Devante on the like a deep it was a seven it's called a corner stop route where you're running a corner except instead of keeping the route going to the sideline you literally turn back so it's like it's like a corner with a hitch on the end of it uh he was back towards the quarterback uh he was wide open devante the first time they ran it the first half and it was covered two the first

time and he found the void yeah but you found the void and jalen just put it into the dirt so it was a bad but it was one of the rare bad throws from jalen in the first half uh so then they're like oh it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna let's do it let's do the same thing again uh and this time they played man-to-man coverage and they had a safety over top so the corner was playing really tight coverage against it and just smothered the route. Right. And do you, do you from just watching this team this year, comparing to other teams, comparing to past years, do you think there's more of this like guessing the coverage thing? Because like both Nick and Petulow have talked about this where they're like, yeah, you know, you make an educated gas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like as if it's like,

it's like, it's like, you know, well, we called this play and it would have been successful if we got the coverage we thought we were going to get. Well, yeah, that's part of the job. Yeah. Design a play that has more than one answer. And this also goes, I don't think anyone's asked Kevin about the pure progression thing. Like that was kind of going,

that was going around the league, like, you know, the Kirk Cousins thing. Like, this is a perfect example of that, right? Like calling plays that involve multiple options where you don't need to know the coverage. Yes. And so that's the thing about it. Now, on that individual play,

it wouldn't matter because it's not like there were more progressions for it. There's only two options. Right, right. So it's not like that would have helped on that play. But so there's two things here. There's the pure progression aspect of it where, yes, you call a concept and it doesn't really matter what the coverage is because, all right, you're going one to two to three

to four and you're working way through. I thought it was really interesting, by the way. I don't know if you guys saw this, but Kurt Warner had put out, basically, I think someone was actually responding to something that Greg Cosell said, where it was about, we're talking about San Francisco and Brock Purdy. It was like, hey, like, Brock Purdy has a really innate feel for eliminating quickly, like, throws that aren't going to be there within the progression. And someone responded to it.

I forgot the analyst and it was like, oh, well, that's not how pure progression works. You don't know, you have to go one to two. And it's like, no, that's not actually how it. Like, yes, you can be a robot and say like, all right, one, two, three, four. And you can operate within that concept like training wheels. So you say like, okay, yes, you have to go by the checklist. But if you are a quarterback that is able to kind of think like outside the box a little bit and quickly eliminate those plays,

you can skip ahead from one to three or one to four. Like, understand, like, hey, you know what? Like, the dig's not going to be there because of this coverage. They're playing one robber, so I have to go to this route instead, right? Like, you understand, like, okay, the routes that are coming your way. So, yes, like, there is ability to kind of color outside the lines there when it comes to those pure progressions. But with the way that the Eagles typically have played, to your point, Beau,

like, you know, if they have this concept over here and this concept over there, in theory, that should be, oh, well, If they're running cover two, we're going on this side. If they're running cover three, then the answer is there. The problem is Jalen isn't always right with understanding, like which way to go in those situations and making that correct pre-snap read. And so, and if you do guess wrong, now by the time he gets back over to the other side, that's timed out, and then you get into the scrambles or awesome.

We've had that conversation. And so that's why, to me, like the pure progression reads are probably a little bit more beneficial, but then, you know, there's positives and negatives to everything. Yeah, I would say they duplicate all the time. Oh, yeah. They've always done that. I mean, you know I like trace out the routes again. So sometimes I literally copy-paste.

Yeah, they duplicate plays all the time. So that's not surprising. Maybe a simpler example of the side thing. They ran a double screen again this game, similar to the one in Tampa. And I thought Jalen picked the wrong side again. Like he did the same thing in that one where like he has the numbers to one side. That's got to be hard to do. But like that's part of what Kirk Cousins was saying was the Brock Party thing, right?

He's like, you don't always have time to go one through five. No. So the question becomes is that this coaching staff's philosophy that that's not the way they went around things, or do they not think Jalen is capable of doing that? Or does Jalen want to play? There's so many different iterations of that answer. Because it could be Jalen wants to play this way.

It could be that Siriani-Petulo coaching staff wants to play this way. It could be that they think they have to play this way. Like, there's a lot of different answers to that. Which is part of why Sunday's game is so fascinating. Well, yeah, you've been waiting for this all year, Bo. No, I haven't, but we, listen, how they call the game. All season long, there has been the reported finger pointing behind the scenes. Who's at fault for the offense?

This is Kevin Petulow and Nick Seriani's chance to make a case to the football world that this is the offense they would actually like. to run. Let's remember last year the game meant nothing. Yep. They seem to have kind of planned like the first 15 and they did a bunch of under center play action and Tanner McKee looked amazing and then they kind of

like went away from it later and it didn't, it wasn't that great. And I don't think that they are spending all of their waking hours on this week's game plan. But this game means, could mean some. Of course it does. You could be playing for the two seats. Of course it does. What if the bears are down by two touchdowns and you're in the second half? You're not just going to be throwing away plays. Like you're going to be trying to win the game. So like there's more of a chance that there's like a Tanner McKee well I mean you know then you got to make sure

you don't give the ball back to Josh Johnson I mean you don't Josh Johnson with 17 seconds at the end of the half frame you can't give him you can't give him that but like yeah I mean you're you're absolutely right it's an incredible natural experiment and it's it's a very we'll talk more with EJ about who's going to play in this game but it's very fun that it's going to be the backups but it's also possibly going to be for something right like it's a rare case where he talked about that you have like real you know like real stakes so yeah that's kind of fun um next man coverage one friend that i want to ask you about the slant flat he throws the slant almost gets intercepted to a j if you remember uh benford was was kind

of all over a j on that one on the right side yeah that's one where you normally think like you got man coverage like a j brown he's going to win it seemed like the flat was the better read is it disturbing that like teams can play man coverage and take away like those kinds of concepts like at this point uh a little that's supposed to be like wow the eagles are good at right well and so that's if when they're playing man-to-man and that's the thing like christian benford's a good corner so this isn't like oh like anti-Christian benford at the end of the day like if you're getting man-to-man like if that's a j like i kind of want a jay to win on those kind of situations right there are some where it's like oh the other

team's playing quarters and the safety just reads this all the way and is able to he he triggers on the throw or there was the the play against the chargers where it was the the curl route to Devante where the corner just sees it the whole way. It's like, oh, predictable. That to me is different than this one where it's man to man and AJ just didn't win. Like Benford beat him. And so those are. And you can pause it and say, well, the flat's open, but that's probably not the right criticism of that play, right? That's not one where you say like, well, you know, like AJ's pretty tightly covered and the, you know, the guy covering the flats kind of picked by the slant. You should throw the flat. I mean, it's only going to get like four yards

if you throw the flat. I was fine with the slant throw in that. I didn't have it. I'll put it this way. In my notes, I didn't put anything negative. Like, oh, I should have thrown into the flat there. Okay. Okay.

All right. Let's take our second break. We'll come back. Continue this conversation on the other side. I want to ask you, Fran, if you think there is a style of defense that would be best suited for the egos to play against in the playoffs. I'll let you think about that. And we'll answer it on the other side.

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Back on the P.H.O.I. Eagles podcast. Lindsay, you have a You have a trivia question for us. I do. Can you name which current NFL coach has more regular season rushing yards than Bo Jackson? Wait. They asked all the NFL coaches this on films, and they all, like, struggle to get it. Wait, which current NFL coach has more regular, yeah, regular season rushing yards than Bo Jackson?

Wait, what? Okay, well. All right. Oh, I got it. I could, or at least I have a guess. You guys want to think about it more? Can I guess? Go ahead.

Yeah, if you're there first. Jim Harbaugh. That is correct. Yes. Yeah. Fantastic. John Harbaugh did not get that. Nice.

Fantastic. Because he scrambled a lot and I knew there's no running backs, right? Right. Who are coaches. There it is. Nicely done. That was a good one. It's like the first time I've gotten one of these.

First one ever. Yeah. Yeah. Congratulations. I'll give you a little other trivia. Culture trivia tied to football. Who was Tom Brady seen with on New Year's Eve? Oh, God.

Really? He was seen with a girl, a woman. She's of age. I don't even know if you guys know who this is. Kim Jong-un's daughter. Some AI princess. I think she's like 13, so. I'm going to say,

I don't even know if you're going to know who it is when I say the name. Ivanka Trump. No. Eli, Ricks, would be very upset. Do you guys know who Alex Earle is? No. She's an influencer. She's an influencer?

Okay. She was just dating Brax and Berrios. They just broke up. Oh, I did see. I saw something about this, like he was whining because he couldn't take football season off or something like that. Because she was on Dancing with the Stars. Oh, yeah. I'm trying to bring some more pop culture

but tied to sports to the show So there you go Rose to popularity posting Get Ready With Me videos on TikTok Is the one glove related to this? So the one glove I think is a Definitely like related to the Telestrator The Telestrator

Because you can't use it with the Yeah I think so Yeah but But he could put it on He can put it on for the shot Yeah Yeah Wait, I just looked at the comments, and I just saw most annoying voice in the world.

And I was like, oh, my God, they're talking about me. And he said, Alex Errol. I was like, I'll never talk again, sorry. Happy New Year, Lindsay. All right. Did you think about my question? Yeah. Any style of defense that you think would be a better suited fit for the Eagles' offense?

Stylistically, I would say, the more static. the better. Okay. Yeah. Looking at the playoff field, there's really only one defense where I'm like, yeah, circle that one. It's like a definite, it's here by itself and that's San Francisco. That defense has been just terrible.

It's just a bad defense and they are a little bit more static than the other groups. I would say like then you're probably saying Chicago is the next tier. Okay. But even then, like Dennis Allen can, you know, can get a little funky. But then after that, you know, we talked about, like, like, all right, you know, some of the things that Jeff Halfley has done in the past. And I would imagine, like, knowing that they don't have Parsons going into the postseason. Like, they're going to have to get a little bit more creative there.

The Rams have been very multiple with what they do defensively. Rams and Seahawks are the two that they're going to be. And Jeff Hathley's been particularly good against the Eagles. Yes. I mean, it seems like just the stuff that he does seems to have worked, like, these last couple of games. Yeah, I do think that that defense is, like, I thought that defense was on a little bit more of a, like, a hot run. last year at this time as opposed to what they're showing on tape now. But, yeah, I would say that's schematically, philosophically, a little bit worse.

Boat, your bet with the guy who was on with Dan Baker about Emmanuel Forbes, is that still up in the air right now based on Emmanuel Forbes's revitalization? I don't remember what I talking about. That he is. Okay. All right. Well, I mean, I remember I was famously correct about Emmanuel Forbes's future with the commanders. With the commanders, but that wasn't just about the commanders.

I still don't think it's crazy though like every time I watch I'm like how is Emmanuel Forbes like the starter on this defense which is considered like a you know like a top of the top half top quarter defense in the league so yeah all right I was gonna ask you about the run game okay second half seven runs yep all different the last seven runs of the game okay the first two were successful but the last seven runs all unsuccessful five from under center there's a mid zone run cam Juergens can't block the one tech there's a duo run where a land Brandon and Goddard both get beat.

There's a counter read with Calcatera as the rapper, which we know never goes well. He doesn't block anybody on the play, as usual. There's a WAM play with Goddard at full back. The backside three technique. And you've talked about this before, Fran. I thought that was a great example where they motion AJ Brown on the play,

the linebackers bump, and then because of that bump, Landon Dickerson, like, can't find his landmark. He can't find the guy he's supposed to block because he's already on the edge. The motion's going towards the side of the play. Like, it just seemed badly designed to me. There's a crack toss with Goddard at fullback

where he didn't want any part of Shaq Thompson on the block And then there was like a draw with an insert block Where Cam Wift again Yep This is like this then leads to a bunch of third and longs And the third and longs are disastrous And we can talk about the hitches and all that done But these run like just the running game

Forget the way it's married to the to the you know Play action What would you be advocating for in the playoffs like considering that they tried just about everything in this game and nothing was working I mean we had zone runs here we had gap scheme runs like none of them are working

what is the formula in the playoffs for like and in this game they weren't doing the QB1 QB plus one stuff so maybe maybe that's just the formula yeah but I want to I was curious what you thought I think the the QB run stuff definitely should be part of the formula

I do think because of my feelings on the under center play action and leaning into that realm I think I want to lean more into the under center realm of runs and so we're talking more duo I think getting into like some of the pinpool stuff try and get Sequin out in space get them away from the interior I think that that would probably be beneficial that's where my head goes initially is get some of the perimeter stuff but then more

importantly like especially leaning into the under center and again the the QB run game from the gun that and that's the we talked about it on Monday was like all right like if you're going into the offseason you kind of Frankenstein some of the things that we've seen is all right maybe the identity is you have your under center and your under center play action vertical shot element you when you get into the gun that's when you have the QB run RPO and then you also have your empty package and that's enough to get you by the early downs try and stay ahead of schedule or stay ahead of the stick so it's not third and long and you avoid that disastrous drop back pass game and you just kind of go from there I think that's probably the formula I try and build it out of okay yeah so I think I think we agree there and when you look at

the first half of this game, there were a handful of successful runs, and most of them were, the gun run, read stuff, even though they weren't necessarily really reading the guy, but they had that element to it. A couple of RPO's that they threw that were successful in the first half as well. Last thing, the third downs were a disaster, right? Five third downs in the second half, all third and six are longer,

three throwaways, a sack, and the incompletion to Devante on the go ball. Lindsay, we have the graph of the hitches like on early downs versus third downs and Fran, this is a great point you made earlier this year where the Eagles famously run a lot of hitches you can see on the left graph there those are early downs. The Eagles run more hitches than anybody else.

But there are some teams, Kellynne Moore's team included, that are close to the Eagles. It's crazy. On third down. Great job by Lindsay to put these side to side. Yeah, I mean, when you look at it side by side, it becomes clear that like some teams philosophically like, you know, they might have plays on early downs

that involve hitches, but on third down they have other answers, right? And the Eagles are just running like an insane crazy, insane number of hitches on third down, like, so much more than any other team. And also so much more than any other team like in history, like, um... Yeah, it's...

Well, they, I mean, they're running more on third down than on first and second down. Right, right. And the league average is, eh, it's about... Well, I mean, they're bringing up the average a lot, but yeah, I know. It's funny how, like, you mentioned this earlier, like, whoever's in charge a third down, right? Like, isn't doing as good a job as whoever's in charge of the early downs. And this is something we just continue to see, right?

Which brings us to, like, stop, like, maybe the only answer to this is get out of, don't get into third and long. Right. But unfortunately, they're 32nd in the league and success rate on second and long, right? As Beau was pointing out earlier this week, like, they're in third and long so much. Right. And it's just, yeah, it's just bad news. even know if I have a question on this one. It's just like, you just have to not be in third and long somehow.

Yeah, I think that getting into third and long is a, that's a tough spot for this team. Now, as the research that Bo did, it was like, yeah, they actually have like the seventh highest rate in the end of the seventh highest, right? Yeah, but it's like 30, it's still 30 percent. No question. You can't live that way. You cannot live that way. And honestly, it takes me to like, you know, I was getting into arguments with people early

in the year, just, you know, friends from around the league about like. like Baker and it was like oh like Baker's MVP MVP Canada I'm like he's doing so much of this out of third like a third and long it's great that like not sustainable Carson 1st 2017 yeah he's not going to keep this up yeah and you know turned it to a pumpkin like it's just it's hard to live that way in those high leverage spots right yeah yeah totally all right let's take our final break the man has arrived mr smith big earn he's here he's going to talk about what he heard heard what you learned from the locker room coming up next on the phil yagles podcast shop bestsellers at ashley where no matter what your holiday traditions are you are always at home whether you're making an

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No, I'm doing well. Got some, like, minor updates. Let's hear them. I mean, now I can weave them in if you want. We've been waiting for this segment, so let's get to it. We heard from Nick Siriani. This is the first time we heard from Nick since they actually made the decision to rest most of their starters. He pretty much told you the decision on Monday.

Yeah, he made it pretty clear what he wanted. Yeah, he still talked about the opportunity to manufacture a buy week for the team. And the thing that stood out to me is like he said that he can guarantee that he can get these guys rest. He can't guarantee that they'll actually be playing for. for the two-seat, which I thought made sense. He didn't rule out scoreboard watching, which I thought was interesting. Now, he said that, you know,

the around the NFL scoreboard is in his periphery all the time because he's watching replays on that scoreboard. But I did find that interesting. Like, I guess there is a scenario where maybe they really, like, play. So, yeah, so who were the guys who you think are, like, on the edge of going to play,

but maybe don't have to play much if the game doesn't matter? Yeah, it's a good question. I feel like Jihad Campbell is someone who stands out to me. I know we disagreed about this on the morning show. I feel like Jihad Campbell's rested a lot this season. I feel like if you can get him reps, he should get him reps. You disagree?

I disagree. Yeah, I think I, to me, like this should be Smile Munded and Jeremiah Troutter Jr. Like most of the game. And then Jihad's the first guy. But I think Jihad Campbell has to play on the edge. That's what they don't have enough edge rushers. And you're saying Jalix won't play that. No, Jalix has to play too.

They don't, Josh Uchay is the only guy. Okay. They don't have anyone who they can. can elevate unless they make a move unless they cut a j dylan i just like that more than patrick johnson is out of elevations truly i i cannot understand why they would have a j dylan on the roster this week they have to you they need guys they like bring patrick johnson up it's crazy like if brandon's not going to play jlickson isn't going to play i'm not sure nolan smiths probably going to have to but how much he's not going to play 50 snaps right so you need a second like john

Josh Uche is currently the only guy who hasn't been playing, who's an edge rusher, who can play, because Patrick Johnson is out of elevations and there are no other, now that they cut Titus Leo, there are no edge rushers on the practice squad. I cannot believe they cut Titus Leo. It's not a sentence I expected to hear this one. Titus Leo, by the way, is now up to six transactions on the season,

one behind Eli Ricks. If he comes back, he and Eli Ricks will be tied at the top. Eli Ricks had a nice, like, New Year's post on Instagram. really yeah I mean he was just in New York he was in New York for New Year's I mean is he on it was nice about the post I don't believe so I he just like he's he has an aesthetic

like he definitely he's like I think he he's like a wannabe model not that sounds mean you know what I mean like when you look at his pictures like it's clear he's like trying to be a model like well I don't know do you reflect on the best moments of his year no he didn't

he was just think of what number one would be you guys have a lot of you Ivanka references on the show today. No, I just, I mean, yeah, he was, he's definitely trying on, on Instagram. I thought it was a nice post. You know, nice clothes. Ivanka, have a great year this year. Yeah, maybe the post was for Ivanka.

He got the sign note from her. I think of a great 226. Did I do this? Ivanka does soccer your flowers. So updates from the Novacare complex Who's going to play offensive line Was it like this before I got here? Yes, just making sure

Maybe not quite to this degree Not a long day, I'll give it to you It's a loopy Friday Who's going to play offensive line? It's a good question I feel like I've come around on this too I think you will see Tyler Steen

I think you'll see Fred Johnson at left tackle Okay And then Matt Pryor Yeah Matt Pryor probably at right tackle And Cameron Williams Does he can just be a backup They put them on the active roster

To be a backup? Maybe these are the attention Someone has to be a backup right Because if one guy goes down You're not going to bring my You don't want to put my lot in the right They just don't have a lot of depth On the offensive line this year

Yeah so I think That's probably another one Where if the score gets out of hand In the Bears Lions game Maybe you pull one of Steen Or Fred Johnson I tell you what I, I, if Cameron Williams is on the field,

Sam Howell has to be the quarterback. That's how I feel. I'm serious. You could, you could just, you could just bootleg Tanner on every play, you know, away from. I mean, I don't trust that. As a, as a clue to what they'll do,

just looking at last year, and I know it's different because it didn't, it really didn't mean anything last year. They managed to get through that game last year playing only 34 players, which is remarkable, like including, specialists. They had 11 inactives, and they had 10 players who dressed and didn't play at all. That's 21 guys. Two of the 21 who didn't play were backup quarterback, so forget them.

But that's 19 starters that they were able to completely rest. The only starters who played in the game at all were Jahan Dotson. He played the whole game. Dallas Goddard, who was coming back from IR, and wasn't going to play at all. So I apologize. He played. He played 13 snaps. I was shocked. How much you played when I went back and watched the 10 of a key job? My first question when 13 snaps, but yeah. I think they just wanted to get him work because otherwise he was going to come off of not playing at all.

He was on IR for four weeks. I just got looked it up from. And then the last player who was a starter who played was Jalick's Hunt who played 18 snaps. So yeah, that was it. The other starters, they were able to rest. But they had depth at the end

and D-Tackle. They were able to, you know. Milton Williams played on the edge. A little bit. And then like they were able to elevate Charles Harris, who played 41 snaps. Yeah. They were able to get 40s.

six snaps from Bryce Huff. I mean, these are guys who obviously didn't play at all in the playoffs. So, like, to be able to get those snaps, they don't have those numbers this year. Like, they just don't have edge rushers on the team. So I think Jihad Campbell is going to play on the edge. Like, I don't see how they can get through the game without that.

They release A.J. Dillon, and they activate, or they... Patrick Johnson. Patrick Johnson comes up. That's the only other answer. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like... I like the idea of Jihad Campbell playing off-ball linebacker

because I think he could use the reps. I don't think playing him on the edge really benefits anybody. Yeah, maybe you're right, especially because Vic, like, explicitly said that playing on the edge stunted his development a little bit at inside linebacker. And there is a chance he has to play a long car. I think they should have...

Because you think that they might need him at inside linebacker in the playoffs? Like, is that the idea? Because Nikobe, you don't know about Nikobe. I think they Yeah, last year, Orrinbergs... They know way more about what's going on with these guys, but the Cameron Williams thing, I'm still baffled by. I think they could have, they could have,

You bring up Patrick Johnson, he takes that spot. You bring up Brandon Johnson, and he takes AJ Dillon's spot, and then you bring up Jake Majors, you know, to be the game. Well, here's the issue with the bringing up guys, right? They put Charlie Hewlett on the practice squad. Yeah. So that wastes an elevation. Like, they're only allowed to elevate two guys.

One of them's going to be Charlie Hewlett. I think they have to elevate Brandon Johnson to start at safety because they don't have a fourth safety. That's where he's been playing. At the ends of games and garbage time. Brandon Johnson and Sidney Brown have to start at safety and then you've got Bennett, Ringo, and Carter

to start. We talked before the show, we disagreed about Mack McWilliams. I don't think they want Mac McWilliams on the field. He's got to play. He has to play! Last year, Eli Ricks, who we were talking about earlier, dressed and hardly played it all in that game. He played like the last drive or something like that. So I think

that's Mac McWilliams this year. I think he's going to dress, but he's not going to be part of the starting lineup. Do we, E.J., do we know anything about Michael Carter? Is he okay? He's good to play after whatever happened okay yeah it was like a like a personal issue or something it wasn't injury related right i do not believe so no um yeah i i don't going back to the jihad campbell thing i just i don't see playing him on the edge as a logical thing to do isn't so they have to bring up patrick johnson yeah unless bg is just gonna play but bg can play he can give you

15 snaps they can't be playing 50 snaps yeah a quick one on the offensive line okay like since we're nitpicking some of these potential decisions. Like, Willie Lankin. I don't love Fred Johnson having moved to left tackle for this week. I think, like, Lane is not a guarantee to be back for the playoffs. I don't think flipping. Yeah, but he's gotten all those reps at right tackle. Yeah, but still just to mess with it for a week going into the playoffs.

If you look at him as a starter, you wouldn't do it. It's only if you're sure that Lane Johnson's coming back. And I don't know if we can be sure about that. You could just have prior play left tackle. I know he's not as comfortable there. But I don't think that's what's going to happen. I think Fred's going to play left tackle Remember beginning of the year

That game where Lane got hurt Matt Pryor came in for him Because Stoutland's like they said Prior was the right tackle And Fred Johnson was the left tackle So it makes sense that they'll do it that way But I think Fred's going to play left And I don't like it.

How many turkeys on Lane being the starting right tackle For the first playoff game For a reasonable question Fewer and fewer and they keep saying He's going to practice and he hasn't practiced And Fred can't play this week If that's like up in the air Then you have to start

That's where Cameron Williams comes in. I think that Fred's going to play. I think he's going to play a left tackle. It is possible to play in week 18 and then play in the playoffs. There are going to be teams that do it with the entire team. So let's not go crazy with this.

We were debating whether the starter should play. You can have one guy play. I don't know. I don't have an issue with Fred playing. I understand why he's going to play, but on the left side, that makes me nervous. I would still put Lane at probably like 60 turkeys, but again, fewer and fewer.

That's a lot lower than I was hoping to. here are you guys higher than me i mean i might have said 65 and the real thing that i think is important to to put out with like the lane stuff is like he's playing through a serious injury like even if when he comes back it's not it's not a guarantee

it's going to be lane johnson like we know him to like at the level we expect him to play so and it could also be a re-injure right it is it is objectively an unknown very similar to going into the 2022 playoffs lane was injured and he came back and he was talking about how like

Like, they put Dexter Lawrence, like, you know, Dexter Lawrence was like bull rushing. Yeah. No, I mean, his toughness is unquestioned. Like, if he can play, he will. But that doesn't. Like, we've seen it with Landon this year. Sometimes those guys are far from 100%. All right, some super chats to get to before we head to Lindsay time in swooper.

We've got Rich Bobby, who says in 2017, a sports writer, you have been reading for a while. And a bubble ball MVP will encourage you to listen to their. bird pun-heavy podcast. It's very important that you do. Great seeing you guys. It was great to see Rich. It was great to see Rich. I didn't get to see Rich.

Oh. If you got there, it was well, you know. Wow. Yeah, unbelievable. Growing his wife. The first words he said when he got there.

No, I texted you guys so that you know, it wasn't her fault that the train got in late. It wasn't her fault at all. She knows what time it is. Wow. It was great to see Julia as well. Unbelievable.

She and I talked about you how often you throw her under the bus on the show. Shout out to Julia. Very fun event. It was nice. Yeah, it was great. Wawa Psalms says, Danes only likes football.

But you love economics. I'm going to share an off-the-record conversation. I think you might want to, if you switch two of the words in that sentence, it would be true. I'm going to share an off-the-record conversation. do you want me to do it now or in I'll just share it a certain media member

said that De Niz might be the best person in content in Eagles content I know who wasn't do we guess who the person is? You can guess if you want, yeah ESP it was ESP yeah ESP shouted me out this week

I appreciate it he read my he read my playoff scenarios chart wrong as he was shouting me out but that's okay that's it he'll get it right next time we'll find out in Lindsay time I would have guessed I actually would have guessed ESB but I mean saying somebody's the best person in content is a pretty ESP yes that's what got me there yeah I mean that's uh yeah I'm honored I'm gonna guess Jalen no jailer jane is what do you guys think about both Petulow and Jalen answering the play clock questions that were asked this week with, well, we don't get delay a game penalties.

I think that was probably something they got prepped to say. I was just going to say. That's clearly something they were prepped to say, right? It's like, your guys are going to get asked about two seconds on the play clock. The dissonance is that Nick Siriani has been pretty clear that, like, they need to be better about it. Not just Nick Seriani, like multiple players have been talking about it. Exactly.

It's convenient. I think they are good at avoiding the delay of game penalties, but there's other consequences to one. Right, exactly, that's exactly right. They're calling timeouts, they're like, you know, not changing plays at the line and time. They actually do get a decent amount of delay of game penalties because of all those, like, cowards, let's draw them offside situations. Right, right, but that's not. CDP, how lucky are Ross Eagles fans that we get to see how creative the coaching staff can be

when they aren't getting dragged down by Super Bowl MVP, Jalen Hertz. There you go. I am curious to see what the offense looks like. It's going to be very interesting. Tanner McKee's going to be running for his life with Cam Williams a left tackle. Is there going to be a WIP, like, segment on should Tanner McKee start in the playoffs? No, I don't think it'll get that. It's not going to get that experience.

Oh, I think it'll get that far. I know, because he's playing with, you know, he's throwing passes to Darius Cooper and to, if there were a situation where Tanner was thrown in with the ones, I think that, yes, then those things, those conversations would happen. but I don't think it's going to happen this week. Shots at your boy. Are you having connectivity issues over there? I know. I keep getting good. I know it's doing it to me too.

I don't know what's going on. One other thing I wanted to do. Well, there's two things. Jordan Davis got the Good Guy Award in the locker room today. I think it's called the stand-up guy because, you know, we changed the name because we didn't want to declare somebody a good guy. Yeah, but stand-up guy doesn't, it's the same thing. I mean, it's a little bit more.

The Good Guy Award. Which is just somebody, for the listeners, like, we give it to a player, we vote on it, and the winner is a, we vote for the most media-friendly player on the team. It was my lot of last year? It was my lot of last year. Yeah, I mean, there's a really in-depth conversation I'd like to have about, like. This is the thing where Zach got, like, the Fallak trophy. Jordan Milata was given a Falak trophy. I don't remember who gave it, but.

I don't think he was given it. And I don't know. Zach replaced it with him. Oh, that's right. He ordered it and then he was too phallic. We signed it. We all signed it today. Wait, what? You signed it?

What? You signed it? What is it? It's like a certificate. Yeah, we all signed it. Why? I shouldn't have brought it. Is this something that only,

is this like a, is this like a Philly thing or is this like something other teams? Well, this is the thing that famously has been done like around the league and other places and it wasn't done. It wasn't done here. Okay. Until last year.

And I still don't like it. I don't know. Yeah, it's a little weird. But I kind of... There have to be some media members who think that this is a really bad thing. Oh, yeah. I would... Not just Bo.

I can think of a few who must really hate this. They're not fans of it. And they still signed it, or were there any protests, no sign people? You don't have to name names. I won't name names, but you guys will all know who I'm referencing. The person, there was someone who signed it, and then when they signed it, I'm like, all right, fine, I kind of have to sign it if he's going to sign it. Okay, wow.

Like, if he thinks that it's okay to sign it, then I'm probably in the case. clear. Wow. I will reveal my votes if you guys want to hear them. Okay. Do you want to guess them? Are you going to guess you voted for...

My first place vote was... It's going to surprise you. Second place, third place. Yeah. So, yeah, I... I try to remember my votes. I remember who I voted for. I remember who my number one vote was.

I don't remember my two and three, I think. But... My first one's going to surprise you. It's not... It's not... A.J. Brown, number one. I was say A.J. Brown. Hey, J. Brown was my number one.

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I appreciate that he's been available at times this season when he, I've seen enough players, like, kind of shy away from addressing things. Yes. But AJ hasn't talked in four weeks. I know. That is the, that's the ultimate talent. What is that about? What is that about?

I was going to ask you guys about that. Why hasn't he talked? I wish I could ask him. Okay. Interesting. I thought AJ should have won last year. Yeah, I voted for him last year as well. Yeah.

And I have always said that he was, he is the most approachable. superstar I've ever covered. Sequin's up there too, but I agree. Sequin is less so. Sequin has his scheduled day to talk. So that is, so let me, so Sequin was a favorite among other media members. He was not in my top three

and it is solely because I'm here with you guys. Sequin is a late Friday talker, so I never hear from him. I appreciate that Sequin has a lot of demands on his time. Sure. But I think, to me, the conceit of this award should be someone who you can go up to at any time and they will talk to you.

And if a guy has like a one time they're talking, even if they're answering tough questions, it's a little bit less so to me. So that's why I voted AJ number one. I do, listen, it's been a tough month for that vote. But I think there have been times this season where he could have either put it off till Friday or not talked at all,

and he's always been at his locker. I voted Zach Bond number one. He was my number three. He's a great player. You could talk to him at any time, about anything. He's game, and he's insightful. Yeah. And then Jordan Davis was my third

Okay I don't remember my other votes Yeah Some people use the votes as like Like strategic Like they want to like They want somebody to win So that they can curry favor with them

Or like you know Peer pressure them And this is a whole I mean you can do a whole A whole class professor I mean incentives of And that's part of the issue With this like award

That's like that's part of why It probably shouldn't exist Well I think Jordan Davis was a deserve recipient he's been very accessible sure he's been like a reliable narrator which is a phrase somebody told me you like today bow so okay I wonder who said that so yeah I like the idea in in abstract of letting the players know that we appreciate their time and that's nice but I feel like the singling out and the incentives of it it's like I don't know it's fine yeah I mean last year my lot of one

because he was in charge of the PA and kept us in the locker room. That is a little bit, yeah. He won for other reasons, though. He's very accessible. He probably would have won again this year. Jordan didn't make Pro Bowl, and this is the next best thing. Are they still giving out the Ed Block Courage Award? Who was it that you loved?

Joe Walker. Oh, Joe Walker, yeah, that's right. Is that still a thing? Rebounded from being unfrozen after being a caveman. Next year, Zed Block will be Tanner McKee after playing behind Cam Williams in Week 18. Jeez.

Calling it now. Four guys getting crushed. Last thing, just from today, like, newsy things. Britt and Covey was walking around the locker room with like a big ice pack on his ankle. Oh, God.

So, like, I don't know what that means for his status. It's just something to keep in mind. The injury reportable. He's a third receiver. He got hit. He got hit on that return. Yeah.

No, I think it happened at practice. Oh, really? Yeah, I think it's something new. Now. Really? I don't know if it's, like, serious enough that he's not going to play, but if he does pop up on the injury report, that's probably why. Okay. Okay.

Everybody ready for Swooper? Yeah. All right. Let's do it. I'm going to take my jacket off. Listen. We appreciate everything. Just, you know.

That the professor does. Listen, I had to. By the way, please check my social media for full. We didn't have time to get on in this show because it's an Eagle show, but full. NFC and AFC playoff scenarios. Those take time to do Bo. They're absolutely correct. The number of rows

are as little as possible easy to read as possible. Please if you're interested in the playoff scenarios, check those out. That ate into my time a little bit. New Year's party, traveling back and forth to D.C. multiple times. The meet up with you guys. Storm of the Capitol?

No. Do not storm the Capitol. Can I'm speaking of that. I have a fact about myself. I need to tell you guys okay speaking of that my wife and I are dating anniversary January 6th nice oh there you go very exciting it's the day that New Mexico

and Arizona became a state because my father-in-law gave us a glass of champagne when we got to the party and he said we're celebrating January 6th and I was like that is not his politics at all and I was like there has to be some sort of inside thing on this apparently the it was a sparkling wine from New Mexico and it had like the

history of New Mexico on it and they were apparently became a state in January 6th. All right. Okay. So yes, the professor has been busy which means that he wasn't able to get to last week's swooper scoring. I have it all annotated. It just didn't score it. We forgive him. It's the New Year's. We're going to give him a glass of champagne in. I had Brandon Graham records at least a half sack

and that meant that I also acquired the jolly old St. Nick Cole did not happen. The Eagles defense allows fewer than 120 rushing yards. They allowed 120 rushing yards on the dot. Unbelievable loss for me. Jackson Hawes gets a first down, touchdown, or two-point conversion. By the way, I will say, Professor, this is the first time in three, five years of swooper, five years of a super that I noticed, I noticed a couple of typos.

Oh, they're usually, they're usually a couple of typos and some people always point them out. Because it wasn't rushing yards, it was just yards, I think. Yes, and he also wrote First Town. First Town. Hey, listen. I'm sure that caused a lot of confusion. Everybody makes mistakes. If I were more familiar with football, I would know that it's called a first down and not a first time.

And I had the Eagles win, so I got one. E.J. Record for longest field goal and NFL history is broken this week. Did not happen. And the Eagles' offensive linemen is targeted on a pass. Did not happen. Sequin Barclay runs for more yards after contact than James Cook. What was the number? It was 52 to 51, right?

52 to 51. In favor of James T. Cook here. Wow. Missed by one. What lines this week? The Eagles avoid going three and out in a game for the first time this season. I get to keep it, though. I get to keep it.

Not only the very first drive, but five times three now. You get to keep it, yeah. Actually, you get to Kio this item until it hits, according to the text. Wow, a lot of typos. I should use spell check next time. Sequin Barclay has a rush of at least 12 yards, and Jalen Hertz completes a pass of at least 25 yards that did hit. Sequin Barclay has more than 100 rushing yards.

It did not happen. The Eagles remain mathematically alive for the two seed, going into Week 18, that did happen, so E.J. had two hits. Fran. Jordan Davis either sacks or tackles Josh Allen happened on what The final play of the game One of the last plays of the game

You got it None or all of the following things happened Darius Slay posts about the matchup No Spencer or Jackson Hawes More snaps than his age Didn't happen even though it happened the week before Jordan Poyer more tackles

than Matthew Tucker career catches This seemed like a cinch But Jordan Poyer did not play in the game inactive Broadcast mentions Dionne Dawkins went to Temple didn't happen Brandon Cooks tackled by an eagle safety

did happen literally happened two plays before the Jordan Davis play yes so finally happened so you did not happen on the long one

with with Epps no it was Cooper DeGine Oh interesting you didn't get that then you had Josh Allen has a higher dropback success rate then Jillen Hertz

you did get that and the Eagles go 100% in goal to go situations that did have happen. Fran getting the W going up to four and a third. He's a point and a half back of both me and E.J. at five and five, six. This is the regular season finale next week. It's worth two points. And every week they make it further in the playoffs, it goes up a point. So here we go.

Everybody's just... Oh, man, the strategy of saving turkeys for the two-pointer today, it's going to be fascinating to follow. Just saying. As we get to it, you'll see on the screen. Where's the ab? E.J. has 18 turkeys. I mean, I don't have it. I'm sorry. With which to bid, I have 26. Do you want me to get it for you? And Fran has 31.

Lindsay, I slacked her something. Did you see? I don't know if you can do anything with it. What is this? Oh, you did? Okay. Yeah, let's do it now. Just get it out of the way. Just because it's funny.

We're sitting here and I'm like, look, and I'm like, I leave. Why does I look familiar? I was like, wait, I just saw Goodwill Hunting last week on TV. I leave to get E.J. Zabigas for 10 seconds, and this is what I got. E.J., it's not your fault. It's not your fault, E.J. It's not your fault, E.J.

Oh, man. This is where we find out E.J.'s never seen the movie. I'm sorry, I haven't seen Goodwill Henton. Oh, come on, man. There has been a Dead Poet Society reference on the show before. You'll remember. To Turkish translation of that book said. 97 on Rotten Tomatoes.

I'll watch it. Okay. Had you ever heard of the movie? Don't put all your baskets in the rotten tomatoes. No, I'm just saying, like, I wanted to see how beloved the movie is. It's pretty beloved. It's probably more than a true. How about think for yourself?

I haven't seen the movie. Be your own man. I will watch it. By the way. Bo is the one who said be your own man I was I said oh you should do this E.J I was like I was like suggesting something Bo's like be your own man a few weeks later

You're like oh is that is like to tell me Be your own man I didn't say be your own man Bo said be your own man About what about doing work for Danes oh yeah it was because I was like Oh yeah yeah time to go ask around And walk you can't be helping Danes like that Fran you get to go first this week

Oh I am oh beautiful Fran EJ J. Bo, Professor. All right, first one. Josh Johnson throws for fewer than 150 yards. We're going to start the bidding at three. Three going once.

Four. Four going once. Five. Five going once. Five going twice. Sold for five. Josh Johnson. At the link in January.

Good memories. All right. You just said it was me. Yeah, right? My first entry, an Eagles running back finishes with a total number of rushing yards that exceeds the percentage of possession

Aston Villa records against Nottingham Far on Saturday. Jesus Christ. What is this? About what percent possession have they been averaging? They average about

51, 52 percent possession. So any Eagles running back rushes for more yards than that. Yeah, rushes for over 52-ish yards, but, you know, is there like an uncontroversial source of possession stats? I usually would use a website

that I will share with you guys called Fott mob. Sounds legit. I've never seen goodwill hunting, but I love Pothob. Hey, E.J. Post. spot now you guys might need to account for like what type of style notting and

forest play maybe i was going to think like opt opta like is i don't i think you have to pay for that oh really not for possession though i mean possession for like advanced stats standardized i feel like yeah maybe we will find an official possession stack i'm going to start the bidding at three four five Five going once, six. You can have it for six. Fran wants nothing to do with it. Sold for six.

Okay. All right. number three. Sidney Brown commits a penalty. Now, this item will count double if Sidney Brown commits a penalty on multiple phases. So if he commits

a penalty on defense and special teams or offense, this will count as two points. So two different kinds of special teams don't count? No, it has to be, yes. Defense and special team. Most it could be is three. Yes. And I will clarify, offsetting penalties do count. Last week, he had an

offsetting penalty, which for every reason doesn't count on the official, but it does count for this. Last year, was it week 18 when he got in a fight in the tunnel and got the, got the, got a, he got a, he got ejected, right? He did. Yeah. For fighting. Can you think of a more chaotic player than Sidney Brown? I mean, I mean, I think he has surpassed Andrew Sendejo. Really?

I really do. I think if he was on the field as much as Sendejo. It was actually week 17 that he got, that he got. Sendejo was like chaotic because he was trying to kill people. But, like, I feel like Sidney Brown is also just kind of like, almost like clumsy out there sometimes. Like, you feel like as I as a, yeah, as I skeeted earlier this week. No. No.

This is a matchup between the two. That is still what they're using on Blue Sky. The two special teams, uh, penalty committers across the league are featured in this game, Sydney Brown and Tyler Owens from. I didn't even hear what you said. I'm rattled. Eagles have had as many ejections. this year is last year.

Two each year. I will start the bidding at five. Six. Six going once. Seven. I mean, if the refs are going to show up to this game.

Yeah. This is like a guarantee unless they forget their flags. Seven going once. Seven going twice. eight going once I feel bad I feel bad

eight going twice I had you have it yeah sold to bow all right my first item item four this is going to be a reverse

Dutch auction where you all swooper out 36 last year the Eagles got through this game playing 34 players so the item is the Eagles play

I made it a little higher the Eagles play 36 or fewer players in the game. Again, last year they dressed 44 and played 34. You're allowed to dress up to 48 plus an emergency quarterback, and they did not do that. This year, they probably will dress the full amount, I'm guessing, just in case or whatever, but who knows?

Maybe we're wrong. So that's the item. All right, I'm going to count up. You guys are going to say, swooper out. Ready? 36 or fewer players one swooper out

two three four okay so Frank gets it for four I feel like the possibility that they will have their initial like starters and then have a sea change if things get out of hand

with the Bears Lions game made me a little bit nervous I was wondering if it would be the other way around like if they would have people on reserve to come in and like bring on the I think that's weirder though right yeah I think that's that's you would think more risk of injury like trying to go 100% oh like like not and cold like not be ready to go and then go yeah I guess you're right like I think if Brandon Graham has to play in

this game he plays I think they front load his snaps in the first quarter or whatever it is okay all right uh franz item number five the Eagles rush for at least 200 yards in the game They ran for just under that in week 16 against this team. One second. I had the number and then I lost it. They ran for 207 back in week 16 against the commanders. Can they get over the 200 yard mark again? We will start the bidding at three.

Three going once. Three going twice. Soul to Fran for three As he continues to bet on the Eagles offense It's been a theme throughout the season I'll take it for three I wouldn't have gone higher than that I'd say I didn't want it for four

Yeah it was good I was good a bidding by you Washington it seems like they're going to play Players maybe not fully But They will be playing players They had Duran Payne well no I mean they're starters Like they had Duran Payne and Bobby Wagner On the injury report earlier this week

But it seems like they're both going to play So their defense should be pretty much the regular guys All right, my next item Darius Cooper Speaking your language, Beau Leads the Eagles in one of the following Receiving yards, longest catch, receiving touchdowns, or most yards

after the catch. He only has to hit one of them But he's got to overtake the rest of the Eagles skill players Okay I'm going to start the bidding At four

That's a lot of things But they're all like very correlated so four going once four going twice five five six six going once six going twice sold to EJ by the way you mentioned Britt and Covey

looking like he was injured If Britt and Covey can't play, Jahan Dotson and Darius Cooper are the only wide receivers other than A.J. Brown and Devante Smith. We talked about elevation issues. They have a bunch of guys. They have Quez Watkins, Danny Gray, Terrace Marshall, but the thing that they have guys

who they can play, they can play Calcutera, Granson, and Latu. They can just play, they can just play 12 and 13 the whole game. So they dare risk Latu is the thing. Yeah, that's the thing. You might need to just... What we do in here? Yeah, you might need to have Latu. If AJ Dylan doesn't carry the ball like 25 times in the game,

Or get cut. It has to be one or the other. Right, exactly right. Get cut or he's got to be the belkeye. Right. I think if AJ Dylan, this is so mean. If AJ Dylan doesn't get cut, the eagles deserve to lose in the first. They don't deserve to go beyond the wild card around the playoffs.

If they're carrying that dead weight, I mean, come on. All right. That was you. All right, next up for me. Check of the order, what are you doing? You can't do you done. Don't swear You see how I was all

I excitedly look at the chat Like oh they're going to love that He's got him Item number seven The chat's feeling sorry for AJ Dillon An eagle Scores his first touchdown of the season So

A big big play From two weeks ago When Tank Biggsby got into the end zone So that takes him off The mark here but any Eagle scores his or her or their first touchdown of the season. I will start the bidding. Passing touchdown does not count.

Okay, thank you. Yes, they have to be the one who scores the touchdown. I'll start the bidding at four. Four going once. Four going twice. sold to Bo for four I'm surprised you guys so many

so many players playing this game haven't been playing Tanner McKee you get Calcutterra you get oh man freaking internet

I mean the Eagles are not going to win this game if like no player scores their first touchdown it seems I don't know friends are going to be like yeah

Eagles aren't going to win a game again all right item number eight professor that was bad Item number eight. So this is going to be a sealed bid second price auction.

So you guys are all going to bid in private. And this is going to something we discussed earlier. You guys had feelings about this. So we'll see how it affects your bidding. The item is Jahad Campbell plays at least five snaps as an edge defender, meaning with two other inside linebackers on the field. Not like, you know, he's just making it a five-man line or whatever. So that is the item.

Sealed bid second price auction, which means only the winner pays, but you pay the second highest bid. Okay. You guys ready to bid? I'll slack you, Lindsay. We talked about how if Patrick Johnson isn't promoted to the 53, they don't really seem to have the numbers there, so... Good? Yeah, I'm good. Okay.

Lindsay, what did E.J. say? Three. Three for E.J. What did Fran say? Put it in the chat. Two. Two. I also said three. So what do we do now? Just regular auction. Keep going. Second price rules remain.

So if you say four, you only pay three. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Anyone going to say four? Four. You got it. All right. So E.J. gets it for three.

I don't love that one, but... Well, that's the thing. If Patrick Johnson doesn't... What are you going to do? Only five stop, I don't know. Not risked John Camel at Eddresser. I don't know. All right.

Fran, item number nine. For those of you listening, E.J. has nine turkeys left. I have eight. Fran has 19. Tanner McKee. throws for more than 185 yards in the game against Washington and we can team how many how many that he have last year uh two something I got it's truck you um 269 and I've got the game so then the reason why I picked 185 is that's exactly what Jalen Hertz through

for against the commanders in 16 oh quarterback controversy these guys just love How are you starting to do it? I'm going to start the bidding at three. Four. Five. Six. Ninety-four of those yards were to Jahan Dotson. By far the lead receiver last year.

Seven. Apparently 41 is a thing now. You guys heard about this? Four one. Oh, everyone's totally been doing the 41 thing. Yeah. We were at after the meetup for a really special we had a nice we had a nice situation at a booth with me and Franon and our two boys and the Sixers game was on and the most exciting thing happened that the Grizzlies had exactly 67 points they both went nuts anytime like a football score is like six to seven

everyone will go crazy six seven oh really six seven cam oh that's very funny right now you have it at seven seven yeah okay professor uh going once

sorry going twice I was like what going twice sold for seven to Fran That's a goodbye It is That's good as your first touchdown by

EJ item number 10 All right My final entry An Eagles defensive back Has an interception In the game

Against the commanders Week 18 I'm going to start The bidding At 3 three going once three going twice sold to EJ

two can you name the Eagles defensive back who had an interception in week 18 last year it wasn't Sidney Brown was it I'm just laughing because it was it's very funny that that was what your answer

was. It was. It was. I said it wasn't city around. Was it? Is that the one he returned for a touchdown? It was not for a touchdown. 21 yards. So that's why I said it wasn't for him because I was thinking of that one. I can't remember that picture.

Josh Johnson's thrown one interception in the last four years. I mean, how many small samples? You're right. How many games he played a really tight sample? Well, how many games did he played in? four years. It's like four games. You just played in.

It's like saying I haven't thrown in an interception in four years. Wow. He's played. He's played six games last year. Yeah. All right. Item number 11. Tanner McKee finishes the regular season as a top five quarterback in the NFL.

In either EPA per dropback or success rate, minimum one start. He accomplished his feat last year. This year, the top five, just so you know. Would you like to guess the top five in EPA per dropback? Right now? Right now, minimum one start on the season. It's all Brando's. It's not all Randos.

But it has to be starts. It's not just like you came in and through two passes. You have to have at least one start as a quarterback. It's not Randos. And is Drake May in there? Drake May is number two. Okay. Matthew Stafford in there

he's number seven Millic Willis number one Malik Willis yeah what's the deal with Jordan Love by the way is he like he got clear but he's definitely

gonna play in the playoffs well no they have nothing to play for this week but yeah no I think that they cleared him but they're Kurti's number four no Jordan Love is number five

number three it's some backup right it's some backup Quinn yours no really is it a backup you like

Is that why you're so excited? I don't like him, no, but people do like him. People like him. People really like him. Ball-knowers? More like, yeah, like, oh, this is good. It's exciting. Yes.

It's not Herbert. It's a backup. Oh, jean. James. Jesus. God, could have been looking anywhere else but right there. Oh, God. Jesus.

I could have done that. I was looking at anywhere else. I don't even know who you met, but it was such a bad rendition of it, too. I knew it. You're audio listeners. I have no idea what you just did also. Oh, God.

The audio listeners are very lucky. Yeah. Yeah, audio listeners, don't come watch. We'll start the bidding at two. What are we voting on again? What have we been on? Oh, yeah, the EPA, that's right, our success, right. Tanner McKee finishes the season as a top five.

Is James going to be, like, all over the Super Bowl again this year? Probably, I'm sure. It's so annoying. We, like, literally ran into him when we left the stadium last year. Like, like, we're, like, all happy celebrating with, like, Gabe and everybody. And we, like, literally ran. ran into james and like a big crowd of people around him like he was just like he's everywhere all right we start to do you're doing two three three going once

three going twice yeah give it to me four you obviously need to win this five yeah he'll pay whatever for this i mean keep going five going once five going twice five going twice sold for five wow I'm surprised how did I never mind how did you get left out of this one I thought I'd be further ahead of my turkey saving

get through what can happen is it me no it is you it is the last one last one okay this is going to be similar to last week where it's going to be a double item with simultaneous sealed bids first price and the two items are

identical to the ones from last week except this is going to be the final version of the number two seed. So the two items are the Eagles win and the Eagles get the number two seed. Obviously they cannot get the number two seed without winning but they can win and not

get the number two seats. So these are the two items. You can borrow from next week now it's sealed bid but you're bidding at the same time for both. So and then we're going to reveal both. So last week E.J. went crazy with one of the two, for example. Oh, that's why I don't have turkeys

to save. Yeah. Right. Great. Amazing. Way to go. You did get that item. I did, but at what cost, I didn't even win the week. That's right. Which is why we were wondering why you paid 13 for it. I really wanted to make sure I got it.

Yeah. So, like, the difference between this and last week is that this, one of these is clearly less valuable than the other. You might be able to get it for cheap for that reason. It literally hit me like a ton of bricks. It's not. Oh my God. It's not exactly the same style of hat. Of course, but it's reminded me of it.

Yeah, that's good. All right. Eagles win. What does E.J. have? Zero. Interesting. What does Fran have? What does Fran have?

Five. I will be taking the Eagles win for eight turkeys. And you pay what you bid. Yeah, you pay exactly eight. So I'm down to zero. and then the number two seed looks like Fran bid one Yep EJ I did zero for both Wow interesting I'll take this for

It's like a Zach move to he never bit anything on my items He was just so so he was so scared of it's just like There's probably a trick Yeah No I just I wanted honestly I wanted to save more Wait Bo did you get that one too I did I got it for four Which is a little more than I wanted to pay but that's okay Apologies for not being totally up on super history

but did Zach ever just not bid at all? Who? Yeah. Like, did he ever go? Like, no, I mean, like, came in with 25 turkeys and left with 25. Oh, no, no, no, he never did that. Yeah. But there were, there were, like, multiple weeks in a row where he just didn't touch my items. Oh, no, yeah, I knew that.

I was just saying, like, what would happen if somebody was ever just, like, keeping all my turkeys? I certainly do that. 50 turkeys to the next week. It kind of feels a little bit against the spirit of the game, though. Yeah. It does. Yeah.

All right, so let's run this back. E.J. is carrying over six turkeys, and he has Darius Cooper, leads the Eagles in receiving yards or longest catch or most yak or receiving touchdown, something like that. Jihad Campbell plays at least five snaps on the edge with two other linebackers on the field, and any Eagles defensive back has an interception. I am down for turkeys heading into next week. A questionable result for me, but I have any running back on the Eagles runs for more yards. then Aston Villa's possession number against Nottingham Forest. Check out on the deal. Check out, yeah, foot, footjob.com.

No, no, no, no, no. Check out, uh, E.J. Skeet for that one later. Jesus. Sidney Brown commits a penalty, and this one counts for two if he does it on multiple phases. Any eagle scores their first touchdown of the season. The Eagles win the game, and the Eagles are the two seed. Fran, Josh Johnson, throws first,

fewer than 150 yards. 36 or fewer players play in this game for the Eagles. The Eagles run for over 200 rushing yards. Tanner McKee throws for at least 185 yards and Tanner McKee finishes the regular season

top five, an EPA dropback or success rate minimum one start. carries over seven turkeys. I really wanted that last one because I felt like that helped negate the an eagle scores his first touchdown. I couldn't you have both of those.

Is it a McKee one? Yeah, because I was like, all right, if he has a big day and throws a bunch of touchdowns, one of those guys, it's going to be someone's first touchdown. So I wanted something to counterbalance that.

Okay. Is anyone else as excited as I am that the NFC South could come down to Falcon Saints on Sunday? I know you were very good. Two completely Unrelated teams

playing a game. Yeah, it's great. But two teams that like do hate each other, two teams that will be playing to try to win that game. Do either of those teams care about the other two teams? Probably not.

That's what's weird, right? They're not rivals with Carolina or Tampa Bay really, right? Are they? It's weird. It's like, imagine if the Eagles were playing Washington and it determined whether Dallas or the Giants won the division. And it's like, if the Eagles were playing to benefit Dallas, like that would be so weird.

Like, fans would like want the Eagles to lose then. Yeah. Is there anything like that with these teams? Well, yeah. If it was Cowboys Giants. I think the Eagles would be rooting Eagles fans would be rooting for the Giants Don't you think? Yeah and they would want

the Eagles to lose to make the draft pick better also So it would be like pretty easy to be like We don't want to win this game It's so it's so fun And it's fun the way they set it up so that like The Saturday game This is one where it's good that they set it up Saturday Sunday I think that's right

Yeah I think it's better Well it was when I was doing the The newsletter this week My draft newsletter I was looking at the top Which by the way if you want to subscribe The professor will deliver them to your house for free on my bike you got my bike

every day 5 a.m. Maybe not that early I don't know draft rankings here we go well I was so I was looking and the chiefs have the 10th pick in the draft right now if the draft were today

obviously it is not so looking at their they host the Raiders this week they're probably going to win that game so they won't be in the 10th spot who could be in there the bucks are one of the teams that could be the 10th spot

they also could win the NFC South this week and be the you know have the 18th or 19th or I guess it would be the 19th pick which is crazy huge disparity in that division Any other fun scenario nuggets you like this weekend? I think it's kind of fun that there's a strength of victory

situation in the AFC that involves eight different games like playing a role and so all but two games have technically have playoff implications. Even the Dallas Giants game has potential playoff implications for the AFC because of the strength of the What is that for just for playoff seating?

It's just for the five seed, yeah. Jacksonville, Buffalo and the Chargers if they finish in a three-way tie, it will come down to strength of victory, and it's actually very close between the Chargers and Jacksonville, which one gets it. Now, I don't think those teams care very much about seeding. Harbaugh's already announced that he's going to rest everybody, which is unfortunate because they're playing Denver, and that's basically going to hand Denver the one seed. And this goes back to something that the owners voted on this last offseason, which was to seed the playoffs by

record rather than give the division winners the top four seeds. If the Chargers had a chance at a home game, which they would have had if they had voted yes on that proposal, then we might have seen more competitive games. And this is exactly why I was hoping that would pass, because it makes it so that when you're locked into like five or six, you don't really care which one you get,

by not giving you a path to a home game, they're making it less likely that teams play in the week and the Rams would be the four seed. Yeah, absolutely. And they'd be playing to try to stay there. And now they might like, you know. And the Eagles, and then the two seed, you would get the NFC team. Exactly.

And that's what we talked about last year, like how unfair it was to the Eagles who were the two-seed last year, had to play the Packers, who were clearly a better team than Tampa Bay, like Washington, by not winning the division, got to play an easier game in the first round. But I'm glad it was proposed and voted on because it means that if you have a few more of these years where the four-seed just sucks, like, and we were going to have one this year in both conferences, maybe eventually it'll pass. Okay. Good stuff. everybody. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. You guys,

New Year's resolution. Oh, no. Lindsay has given us New Year's resolutions. Aren't you supposed to make your own New Year's resolutions? Can you give other people New Year?

Okay, well, we know that. Is, can I guess what Danes' is? Send his super submissions the night early. Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah.

Oh, E.J. Sneaker's I was a minute. How late was it today? It was like 11.30. That might have been a little later. Honestly, it was bad. Wow. Wow. Okay.

Oh, no. I'm scared for a while. I am terrified. Trademark a film breakdown name. That's so much nicer than mine. Be nicer. I will take that to heart. Thank you, Lindsay.

Show more respect to Sequin Barclay. I don't hear any of the, like, Sequin was the reason for winning the Super Bowl last year, people talking this year, by the way. I'm just going to say, they haven't exactly been lining up to apologize to me, but all the people who said, it was because of Seekwan, all those people are saying, Seekwan's the same this year. If he's the same and he was the reason, how come the run game is the same? Well, the run game.

That's, I guess, the big thing is the run game. That's the whole point. That's the whole point. Yeah, exactly. I am quivering in my boots right now. It's going to be nice. Show E.J. love more often. I feel like I show you love all the time. What's not to love?

I don't want to do like stop bullying. Lindsay's new here. That's his style, though. It's a lot of bullying and a lot of love. It's like loving bullying. I don't think it's the more love. That's the problem. It's the, yeah.

Well, yeah, I love you. I love you too. He texted me something yesterday, I think it was it was. You texted me something about work, and then you followed it up with Happy New Year ExoXOXO. I got an XOXO. I sent Franon XO XO yesterday too. Oh, wow. Maybe you need a show Lindsay, me.

I don't either. I feel like I don't think I can send you an XOXO. Yeah, that's true. HR has already been called once. What HR? all right that's all we got thanks for watching and listening

we will be with you on Sunday to talk about the game watch along to see if the Eagles are able to squeak out the two seed Kelly Green game at the helm is this Kelly Green yeah yeah it was Kelly Green Week Tanner McKee and the Kelly Greens

oh man it'll look good it wasn't was last year he started or no the game came in Dallas was Kelly Green it was all black through the AJ Brown it was all black in the in week 18 Yeah. Remember when A.J. Brown tossed Tarram McKee's touchdown ball?

Yeah. We had the guy on the show. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I didn't. I should have known that. That guy was making the rounds after that. Yeah. That was one of my favorite memories for this season. It was a great season. But it's just funny, like in the press box, it felt like it happened in slow motion. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. That's very funny. That's a good stuff. That's a good stuff. That's a good thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Nothing else memorable happened. New Year to everybody out there. We'll talk to you on Sunday. And then it's playoff time. Can't wait. Exciting stuff. We will talk to you. What? That's it?

That's the thing you laugh at? I've been laughing the whole time. All right. For Lindsay and Julia somewhere and Fran and E.J. And Robin Williams. We thank you for watching and listening. We will talk to you on Sunday. And as always, we love you.

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