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Episode Date: April 21, 2026Time for the Owl You Know Draft, in which we predict the 30 players we think are most likely to become Eagles this weekend as Howie Roseman looks to add to his hitlist of picks like Jalen Carter, Quin...yon Mitchell, Jordan Davis, Moro Ojomo and more. Fran Duffy, EJ Smith and Bo Wulf break it down. Plus, Fran’s outlook for how the first round plays out Thursday night. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hello everybody and welcome to the P.H.O.Y. Eagles podcast on a Tuesday afternoon, Bo Wolf, E.J. Smith, Franduffy, live from the Xfinity Studio and presented as we are all week by the fanatics app and Ashley. And we got a big show coming your way. The owl you know draft in which we tell you the 30 players 10 each. We think the Eagles are most likely to select come this weekend.
This is exciting. I got to set my board.
all over the place. I love this. No, this is a fun one. This is a fun game. I was sorry I couldn't
take part in Duck Duck, Duck Tuesday. That was a fun episode. Vacated your title. I did. Yeah.
But, you know, all right. That's okay. I can't believe, like, are you going to, like,
you're going to yell at us about this? I think, we deserve, yelling us. I got nothing
doing it here. Oh, you're talking about the time. He's talking about the fact that we argued
so much in front of, in front of the guests. Oh, no, that's normal. Yeah.
So like Bo texts me in the morning
and he said as reigning champion you get to choose the order
And in my mind I was like oh yeah
This is about picking the first round
And I was like all right well I want to have the first pick
Because I think I was gonna I'm gonna give BLG the first pick
And I was like oh wait it's not just the first round
It's the entire thing so yeah all right BLG as the guest
You can get the second pick
And I was like all right who should get screwed here by having first
third pick I'm gonna handicap it I'm gonna give EJ the third pick
And then you flush it down the toilet
So that you can get a specialist like just unbelievable
I wanted again it was
Team content.
I feel fine about it.
In the mock draft I did that you can check out on all p.h.oI.com.
I almost gave them a specialist in the sixth round because I was like,
I mean, listen, it's good for content if they draft the specialist.
What a week this is and what a great week this is to be part of PHOI,
because we've got all of our draft coverage.
You know, there is no better way to watch the draft than with Fran Duffy.
You've got the diehard draft guide.
You can have that up as you're watching.
And by the way, if you were not with us last year, keep in mind that Fran is not only,
a wonderful evaluator of the draft.
I mean, he was all over breaking picks left and right last year.
So this is a guy who was very plugged in.
You do not need to watch any other draft coverage all weekend long when you've got Fran here.
So we've got you covered.
We're going to be live Thursday night at Chickies and Pete's in Marlton.
Join us.
Come have some fun.
We're live all night, Friday and through Saturday as well.
But there's also so much else going on in Philadelphia.
That Flyers game last night was awesome.
I tune into the post game show with Charlie and the guys.
It was awesome.
And so many people in there, fantastic.
Got another Sixers playoff game tonight.
It's probably going to suck.
But, you know, those guys will have better context than anybody else.
So it's a fun week to be part of the crew.
Absolutely.
No question.
Except with the Phillies.
But, you know, that's fine.
The show is good.
It's a long season.
It's a long season.
Nobody's excited about what's going on with the Phillies right now.
All right.
With all of that in mind, before we get into the Alley, you know, draft,
Let's talk a little bit big picture the draft
Because as I said you are plugged in
And I know you have some thoughts on just sort of
How you think the first half
First two thirds of the first round is likely to play out
What's on your mind?
You've been making lots of calls
Yeah lots of thinking
Yeah it's a lot of texts
A lot of calls a lot of you know messages with people
Over the course of the last couple weeks
And it's a fun part of the process
Because I you know
Honestly it's a
You do like logic puzzles
As a kid like
like you go to the airport
if I'm getting off flight
when I was like a teenager
or going to the beach
I was a big one for the page
like where it's you know
column on the left
column up tire
the row up top
and it's like what's the right
what's the right fit here
this part of the process
is very much like those logic puzzles
where you know I'm
you know I do all the research
on like team trends
and general trends
and scheme fits
understanding how each team
wants to be able to play
but then there's also
the media literacy end of it
where it's like
all right like which reporters
and insiders
are tied in with this team
and that team who's most who is very reliable in telling stories for for all of these different
teams all these areas of the draft but then there's also like the evaluation part of it it's a
yeah putting all that in together is a very fun logic puzzle to try and put together a mock draft and so
you know reaching out the contacts uh this has been a fun couple of weeks i think we're at the stage
now where we're 48 hours out you kind of know like all right these are the players that are going
in the top 10 that's a matter of like matching okay and then and then
What are the sliding door moments?
How does that impact the top 15, the top 20, and then the Eagles of 23?
All right.
Well, let's talk through it in on the clock presented by our friends at Ashley because we have Fran here.
I think we think Mendoza won.
Yep.
How do you sort of see the dominoes falling after that?
All right.
So I think the Jets that's come down to two.
It's a Rval Ries or David Bailey.
And it is like extremely split from a media standpoint right now.
I have always been a little cautious to say like, oh, yeah, I feel really good.
This is Rvel Reese, despite all the reporting saying that.
And so now that it's kind of going on the other way, I am much more in the David Bailey camp.
I think that David Bailey makes more sense there.
And it's very split right now from a media stand where there are some there are like,
oh, my sourcing is saying that this is going to be Reese and my sourcing is saying that's going to be Bailey.
I am more, this is David.
Okay.
Now, what that then does is you get to Arizona.
Arizona is, I think I would love to be able to trade out.
If they stay put, I think they're going to take Jeremiah Love, which is really crazy.
Wow.
I doubt what's tough is you're weeding out what they should do versus like other voices stepping in and saying like, oh no, we need, we're going to, if we're drafting here in this spot, we are taking the best player available on the board and the best player is Jeremiah Love.
Like if we're going to buy our board, like Jeremiah Love is the best player.
I cannot do that.
I know, but that's kind of, so I think that it's more likely, I'm hoping, like, for their
sakes that they trade out and they get some kind of value.
And I don't think they're going to get the quality value that they got a couple years ago.
That's actually working against Austin Fort in this case, isn't that?
They made that trade a few years ago when the Texas went up to go get Will Anderson.
Oh, this is the hall we got then.
So it's got to be close to that now.
They're not getting that hall in this move.
So that's interesting.
So who would go up for Arvel Reese, I guess, in theory.
I had Kansas City doing it.
Okay.
There has been thought about Dallas.
I don't buy the Dallas moving up that far period.
So I don't think that Dallas is moving up to number three.
But I think that you look at Kansas City,
I think they would be the most likely.
There's been thought maybe Tennessee
to try and block somebody else from doing that.
But yeah, that's, they're in a tough spot.
Now, that's a big pivot point.
Because from there, you get to Tennessee.
I think with Tennessee,
if one of the pass rushers falls to them,
Yeah.
So if Love goes three, that means that either Bailey or Reese falls to me.
Then it's an easy pick.
If one of the past rushers goes three, I think Tennessee takes Jeremiah Love.
There's been some reporting that the Titans would take Sunny Stiles.
And that would send Jeremiah Love down to the Giants.
And I think if Love falls to the Giants, I think John Harbaugh is going to take Jeremiah Love.
So the Giants are running back in the top five.
So the Giants are a tough one to figure out.
All their local beat, and this happens every year where, like,
like the local beat coverage, it says, oh, it looks like it's going to be this player.
Yeah.
National insiders are saying another thing.
And then behind the scenes, you're hearing a third thing.
So behind the scenes, I'm here on offensive line.
Local beat writers are, this is the Giants are going to take Sunny Stiles.
And then you're hearing some of the national coverage that it's Jordan Tyson or Caleb Downs.
That the giants are an interesting team.
Jordan Tyson at five?
They had like a big.
There's a lot of theme for Jordan Tyson.
They had a big meeting with him,
right?
You know,
here's where my ears perk up on that though.
Yeah.
Do you know who,
like who,
who they sent out to the pro day?
Shane,
right?
Yeah,
he's just going out to dinner.
He's just,
he's looking for an expense account.
That's like,
that's the,
that's,
that's,
that's the Corleone
sending Frito to Vegas.
Yeah.
That's like they're not,
yeah.
That's a great analogy.
I'm surprised you see,
have you seen Godfather.
Yeah,
me too.
Uh,
movie.
I actually don't think Jordan Tyson gets out of the top.
12, 13.
Man.
I think Tyson's going high.
That's crazy to me.
I think Tyson's going high.
This year, this draft.
Sadiq, I think the Eagles are going to have to make a pretty big move up to get to get.
You think he's in the top 10 at this point?
So there is a little bit of buzz about him with Kansas City at 9 or even a potential trade down for them.
I think the chiefs are more likely to move up than down.
But I've heard Sadiq is a lot.
So that would be kind of where the clock starts, I think, for Sadiq.
Wow.
I don't think Proctor gets past 17 to Detroit.
Yeah.
He seems like the type of profile that would get pushed up the board.
About Freeling.
I think Freeling, so you're here Freeling with Cleveland,
and it's like, all right, if they trade out, Cleveland wants to trade out from six.
So it could be like multiple trade downs.
It could just be one trade down.
I think there could be teams that are trying to move up ahead of like New Orleans for Tyson
or New Orleans for Tate.
And so that would be like, all right, that's what Cleveland is hoping.
and so then they could trade back.
Freeling, I don't know if he's going to get into dista.
I had the Eagles trading up for him in the late part of the top 20,
but I think that's best case scenario.
Now, one of these guys is going to fall, right?
Like Sadiq, Proctor, Freeling,
I think chances are one of those three gets into striking distance.
Is there any chance that Maui Noah or Fano falls?
I don't think Maui Noah.
I think the injury stuff, that that's all cleared up.
Fano, I don't think so.
I think there were some mock draft.
that have him going into like later part of the top 20.
I think there are enough teams with offensive line need where I think he's going, he'll be okay.
How do you feel like Fano fits into the group of guys that we discussed?
Obviously, you have him ranked higher for the Eagle specifically, though.
If they can get in striking distance for a player like him, how do you feel he'd fit for them?
I think it'd be a good fit.
I think when you look at, you know, especially like Green Bay, now, the guys that came over from Green Bay,
like it's not like they were there for their whole careers or anything.
Sure, yeah.
There's an influence.
They've had a lot of success with guys of that body type.
You know, and I think that he's a unique enough athlete that, like,
I think Howie Rosen would buy into that profile.
Yeah, I think that they would be good with Bono.
He was a fun player to watch.
I could see it.
Yeah, I like Final.
I don't think that he,
I think it's less likely he's in striking distance than like Freeling.
I think Freeling is the most likely of that tackle group to get within striking distance.
Are there, who are the guys who we haven't really talked about,
who could go top 20, who then push somebody else down a little bit.
Okay.
Mezzador.
No, I don't think.
I actually think there's a better chance
Mesador is not a first round thing.
Okay.
And I think cooler heads prevail.
Okay.
Have a Blake.
A 25-year-old late break-up.
How about Blake Miller?
I think Miller, I think the clock starts for him at 20 with Pittsburgh.
Okay.
I think so it's like if the Eagles trade up ahead and they take Freeling and so I think
Miller 20 is a high point there's some, there's some heat on Cassius Howell?
Yeah, I don't think I'm buying that one.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't think I'm buying that.
Okay.
Anybody else?
the one they because you guys brought up yesterday a little bit like i think yawane
15 is like the furthest i has seen him falling i actually don't think that he's within
striking distance for the eagles to even move up and i definitely don't think he'd fall to
22 23 yeah and he even if he's there at 23 like i listen i would love it i think he's a great
player but i don't know if the eagles would do it yeah he's not he's not he's not he's he will not
be there yeah it's like i will i feel very strong about that yeah yeah you're giving me the answers
to the test for the game we're about to play with with the vengo yohane's not maybe he's trying
maybe he's playing chess with you.
I'm not saying that Venga's not on my board.
I am very nervous about the game,
so that's all I have to say about it.
Any other little spurs?
All right, well, here's one.
Germant McCoy's, it looks like he's going to slide
the corner from Tennessee,
where people are worried about
the knee injury that he suffered two January's ago
being something that's going to affect him long term.
Similar to the Will Johnson issue last year
that caused him to fall,
he's on the board for the Eagles.
because I don't think he will fall as far.
Will Johnson fell into the second round to Arizona.
I don't think it'll be that far for McCoy.
That could be like, all right, is he too good to pass up on situation?
It's most similar to Jahad Campbell from a year ago.
And what is your Cowboys prediction?
All right.
So the Cowboys, I think ideal scenario, they want either styles or down,
whichever one falls to them.
I think that they are hurt by the fact that Dexter Lawrence got traded to the Bengals
and now the Giants have that second pick.
I think the Giants use that second pick
on either styles or downs.
And I think that it's a good chance
that either styles or downs also goes
in that cluster of 11 before the Cowboys pick.
So I think if the Cowboys were hoping
for one of those two,
I think that's probably out the window.
They might end up with Reuben Bain.
They might end up with Celtic Falk.
They may end up with Mansour Delane.
I think that's like my,
if it's not one of the two Ohio State guys,
I think that's the list of three there
for the Cowboys.
I was wondering if you were going to say
they'd force one of the other safeties there.
Too early?
They are not a force of team.
Okay.
Yeah, they are not a force of team.
They are usually pretty good about
like, we want value.
Sure.
And so they, yeah,
they're pretty good about not forcing their hand that way.
How are you feeling about Keldrick Fox range?
I think the absolute peak
is New Orleans at eight
if two receivers go off the board.
So if both Tate and Tite and Tate
and are gone by eight, which is possible,
then I think that Keldrick Falk
the watch starts at eight.
I think he could go 11 to Miami.
I think he could go 12 to Dallas.
I think you could go 14 to Baltimore.
I'm just like going through the teams.
I think you go 14 to Baltimore.
I think he could go to Detroit.
And again, this is all like, you know,
I think he could go 15 to Tampa
if the offensive line dries up
because I think they go O line.
He could go to the Chargers at 22.
But yeah, there are a lot of teams
I think that could be Keldrick Fox.
I'm just thinking if the tackles dry up,
would the Eagles be willing to move up a little bit for Keldrick Falk?
Minnesota at 18 is another one, Keltrick Falk.
That's another one I'm watching there.
He's going to have a clean profile for them.
Yeah.
I don't know.
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The rules for the Allul You Know draft is that each of us will draft 10 players.
Ooh. Oh, look at that.
Look at that graphic.
The classic. Unbelievable.
Lindsay.
We think the Eagles are most likely to select this.
weekend.
10 each.
This will be a snake draft.
And a correct prediction when you peg a guy,
three points plus the round they're drafted.
So if you correctly predict their first round pick,
that's four points.
Second round pick five points.
Sixth round pick nine points on and on down the line.
Very self-explanatory.
And of course,
the defending champion picks their draft slot.
The defending champion this year is Fran Duffy,
who last year was actually the worst
collective showing, I believe, in Al you know, history only Drew Macuba.
Usually we're looking at about three or four hits here.
You get to decide where you're going to go.
Like how you subtly are downplaying my victory.
Yeah, I stand by that.
I will pick two.
You will pick two.
Now, EJ, because you are new to the game, I will let you decide whether you want to
pick first or third.
I'll pick third.
Wow.
That was a terrified answer.
Okay.
I told you, this game, this game is intimidating.
This game is super level intimidating for me.
It could go a lot of different ways.
Really wasn't sure about the game theory behind trying to like,
you know, if you pick a first round prospect,
it's a tighter window that you have to, you know, evaluate.
We know the players are options in round one,
whereas the options later down will be more difficult.
I mean, what about me would suggest that I'm very confident about this game?
All right.
Well, then I will go.
go first. I have the first pick. And this is tough because I think we all agree the legales
would like to draft a tackle in the first round. That is their, that is their, their hope and their
goal. And it might be out of reach. Could be Proctor. Could be Freeling. I think they'd move up for
those guys. Could be I Hanachore. They stay put. He might be the most likely of the potential outcomes.
but there are also possibilities in which they are not able to draft
a tackle in round one
and that's why I'm using my first overall selection.
Oh man.
On the player who I think I don't know,
I still water gun to my knee
think they're going to draft a tackle in round one
but I don't know who it's going to be if they do that
and because it's only like 50-50 that they do that
I feel pretty strongly that if they don't draft a tackle in round one
that at some point on day two,
there's a little wide variance here,
could be second round,
which be a little bit high,
but I don't think it's impossible.
More likely a third round.
I think there's a really good chance.
They're going to draft our guy
who they brought in on a pre-draft visit.
The mammoth tackle from Miami.
Wow.
Markell Bell is my number one overall pick
because I think that there are many more outcomes
to Markell Bell landing in Philadelphia.
I'm sticking with the big man.
What was he on your board, man?
I'm not telling you where he was on my board.
Give me a general.
Give me a general.
He was inside the top 10, but not in my top five.
He was just outside my top 10.
Okay.
I like it, though.
I get the process there.
I thought you were going to say somebody else.
I did too.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Markell Bell, baby.
Markle Bell.
Number one.
Ring the bell.
All right.
Ring the bell.
All right.
So I'm up here next.
I am going to go with a round one offensive tackle.
I just said that I feel a lot of these guys
are going to have to trade up for,
and the guy that I feel most likely
to get within striking distance,
I think that there's only really two teams
that I've heard connected to this player
drafting ahead of the Eagles, like concretely.
I've heard Cleveland,
and I've heard Detroit with Monroe Freeling,
the left tackle from Georgia.
And so I'm going to make my pick here.
Monroe Freeling, the left tackle,
he goes, look, it's the right.
right school so we can play all the eagles georgia stuff you know eagle dogs um but then i think that when
you're looking at uh the skill set you don't have to plug him in right away he's got the ability to develop
behind the scenes he's got both left tackle and right tackle versatility and experience uh started at left
tackle but it was a backup right tackle uh last year in 2024 he's athletic he's young high upside
i'm gonna go monroe for you okay i'm already going off my board a little bit here
I got two picks.
I agree with you, Bo.
It is hard to pinpoint which of the day one tackles the Eagles could be in range to either trade up for or expect to be at their pick.
But I feel like at this point in the draft, I have to take a swing on one of these guys.
When you say at this point in the draft, do you mean your first pick?
I mean, I didn't think this guy would make it to me.
I didn't.
I'm going to take Caden practice.
Okay.
I think it's totally fine.
There is at least, there are enough, there's enough ranges.
There's enough of a range of outcomes for Caden Proctor to be an excellent guard in the NFL or stick at tackle, depending on where he's at with his physique, like with his physique, his ability to stick on the edge with the foot quickness that he would need to do that.
But if he's a good guard, I think that that's still a decent use of resources.
I understand it's not a premium position, but it's becoming more of a premium position in the league.
So we talked about how Caden Proctor is reminiscent of Jordan Davis.
I think for that reason, the Eagles will feel good if he's there, if he's even in range for them to trade up.
So he's going to be the tackle that I take in this.
I think it's a totally reasonable pick.
Yeah, I think so.
And then with my fourth pick, or my second pick, the fourth pick, I am going to go with a day two swing.
Oh, I thought you're going to go with your boy.
Yeah, I know.
This is why I've got two people who are my boy on the day two swings here.
And I'm really going to hurt me to not get one of them.
I'm going to go with Chris Bell from Louisville.
Feels like the type of player
the Eagles would target on day two.
They've been willing to be patient
for a player coming off of injury.
I'm calling BS on this whole thing.
Go ahead.
I'm going to tell you why you're wrong,
but go ahead.
I think that he is,
if you are looking for the AJ Brown replacement,
which is a cautionary tale,
it can be a tricky thing to actually pull off.
But I think if you're looking for someone
who can fulfill some of what A.J. Brown
has been able to do,
stylistically, I think Chris Bell's probably about as close as you're going to get.
And again, they've been willing to wait for these types of players in the past.
So I think, you know, it's like you found your AJ Brown replacement.
The catch is you might have to wait until year or two for him to really hit that ceiling.
I think that this feeling has permeated the Eagle Zeitgeist to a degree that is driving me a little bit crazy.
How so?
I think there are a lot of leaps being made here that are not correct.
One of them is pointing to Cooper DeGine and Lennon Dickerson
as analogous to the Chris Bell situation.
I don't think that's right.
I think this is much more like the Sidney Jones situation.
Now, an ACL is certainly easier than an Achilles.
But Cooper DeGine was never supposed to miss the beginning of the season.
Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
Landon Dickerson was maybe in question for the beginning of the season.
There was a thought he might start on Pupp.
He didn't have to.
But that was also a player who was more solidly considered a first round pick otherwise.
it's a little bit theoretical.
I think that's a first round prospect
if you were healthy.
I think that's a little bit more theoretical.
It's also,
it goes to the conversation we had before
about like,
this is a profile that is not really a first round pick
in any other year.
The AJ Brown whole thing.
I mean, give me a break a little bit.
Like,
I'm not saying he's the next AJ Brown.
I think if you're looking for a receiver
that is stylistically similar,
he's the closest you're going to get.
And I don't think
first of all, I think it's almost
too connected at this point for it to be
a Howie thing. I don't know about that.
I don't think the Eagles are going to hang their hat on
the big wide receiver move they make
after losing AJ Brown
is a guy who is probably going to
not be a huge factor his entire rookie season.
I mean, so you're basically saying you think that they would rather
trade real draft capital for a veteran?
Or draft someone who doesn't have the same expectations.
I think if you're drafting someone in the second round
who is like,
oh, this guy looks like AJ Brown,
and when he doesn't turn out to be
anything like AJ Brown,
and he's not going to,
that's putting a lot on him.
What happened with Traylon Burks in Tennessee?
Yeah,
but then you could flip it
and say that Justin Jefferson
for Stefan Dixing, you know?
I think he makes sense for the Eagles,
even if you just set aside
the AJ Brown comparison.
I think this is the type of player
that they have been willing to wait for
in the past.
Good chance I have egg on my face here.
I do not think they're drafting Chris Bell.
My big reason why he was lower for me on my board was that I just don't think he's going to make it within striking distance for the eagle.
I actually think he's going to go a little bit earlier in the second round.
So that's why I kind of struggle with it.
All right.
Over to you, Fran.
So I'm going to go with another round one swing here.
Okay.
Smart play.
Yeah, I'm going to take a player that I think if they stay put at 23, I would say my most likely outcome here would be Maxi Haunted Jr.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Arizona State.
I think there's a lot of markers here when you look at
Eagle's picks of the past in terms of obviously he plays the right position,
extremely toolsy, senior bowl.
They're one of the highest rates of senior bowl additions in the first two days of the draft.
When you look at Howie Roseman's tenure and it goes back years and years,
he's got the toughness.
He's got all the tools in his body.
Let's go Ehanich.
My second.
I like that.
Okay.
Good pick.
Is that who you were going to go with?
It might have been.
I didn't want to get some first round.
And I don't know that I don't, you know, I don't really want to take Sadiq here.
Yeah, you're, I mean, that would be.
That's possible.
Brand for you.
Well, not necessarily.
I think, you know, I think you could argue he's the fourth most likely first round
selection.
Yeah.
You said, you said yesterday that you thought it was a second round prospect, though.
I think that's twisting my words a little bit.
It's literally what you said.
You did say it was a round two profile.
That was the one part of the argument.
Yeah, yeah.
Like that was for all that.
Late first round is really what I meant.
otherwise I agreed with
yeah it was a good argument
I am I am
debatable
I'm gonna go with
a friend Duffy favorite here
and this is a position
we all expect the Eagles to address
and I'm and I was looking through
like who do I really think is going to be their guy
at tight end
and
all of them
have little minor red flags
you know like
Oscar Delp, you've got the production.
Max Clare's yards per catch.
He's got small hands.
He's a little bit older.
The guy on this spreadsheet,
who I think is going to check every box,
he has no red flags.
He's got the production.
He can block.
He's big.
He's a good athlete.
I'm taking Justin Jolie for MNC. State.
And I think I will probably end up drafting another tight end in this draft.
If I'm calling my shot,
at tight end.
To me,
Jolie is the guy
who I think that they will like the most.
Interesting.
Yeah,
I mean,
he's,
I like Jolie just because to me,
like,
there are limitations as a player.
I think he's a better blocker
than,
you know,
what we've seen from like Calcuttaire.
Like,
I think he's ever going
to be like a strength of his game.
I just feel really good
that he is going to translate
as a pass catcher.
So when I look at Jolie,
I do think that there's a very
translatable skill set there
moving into the NFL.
All right.
I like it.
We're through two rounds.
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The all you know draft rolls on so far through two rounds.
I've got Markell Bell and Justin Jolie.
Fran's got Monroe Freeling and Maxi Hanachor.
EJ's got Caden Proctor and Chris Bell.
I'm doing some T-Leave reading here on the wide receiver position.
Okay.
So aside from your boy, Chris Bell,
the players who they've brought in for pre-draft visits at wide receiver.
Okay, you've got Omar Cooper, Chris Bell,
DeJohn Stribling, and Caleb Douglas.
These are all with Cooper accepted, bigger guys.
Bigger guys.
With speed.
On the outside.
And so I'm going with someone who is actually not on that list, who I think could be a round two option.
And maybe he won't even be there that early.
But you talked about the Senior Bowl as a factor for these guys?
Yeah.
This is a player who showed up there.
This is a player who fits those same height and speed requirements.
He's got production.
It's from a small school, which is not necessarily an Eagles thing.
but I think it can be at this position.
If you see the production, he's a little bit younger
than some of these other guys,
got the great bra jump, 135 inches,
which is elite for this elite sample of wide receivers.
They're taking a swing on a guy with upside.
And I do, you think about it,
the Packers' offense of it all,
maybe there's some Christian Watson to it.
And there's also like the Eagles guys
who they've had as that clear-out guy in the past,
they haven't had that size.
And so it does feel like a profile they are going for.
I'm taking a shot here on Ted Hurst.
Oh, I like that.
Georgia State.
That one's fun.
634, 63 and 7.8s, 206, ran a 4-42, had over 1,000 yards.
Very productive in the last two years.
I'm taking Ted Hurst.
Just missed my list, but yeah, I think it's a great call.
I like the fit there.
Good skill set.
Yeah, I like Ted Hurst.
Okay.
Over to you.
I'm going to game theory this one a little bit.
knowing the man I'm about to tossing the next round of picks two
and know that he loves this player.
It could be one of two players.
Yeah, I know.
But I'm going to go with Deny Dennis Sutton,
the past Russian from Penn State.
Now, look, if I wanted to be selfish about this,
I would say, well, Fran, like you put them in both of your mock drafts
in the last couple of weeks to the Eagles in the second round.
So if they take them, you can gloat about that.
Yeah, you've already got...
Yeah, I've got equity there.
I've already built...
Flag planted, yeah.
Yep, so I don't need to...
But rather than diversifying the portfolio,
I'm just going to triple down here.
Let's go with the Penn State edge rusher.
Denied Dennis Sutton.
I do think that he plays the way that Vic Fangio likes.
He tests the way that Howie Rosemlinks.
He went to the senior bowl.
He's got high character.
He was in for a 30 visit reportedly.
So to me, yeah, denied Dennis Sutton.
There's a lot of markers here that makes sense.
Man.
And my guy to my left.
Yeah, yeah.
You knew he wasn't getting back to you.
No, he wasn't getting back to you.
No, I wasn't going back.
So denied Dennis Sutton was a player that I passed over.
I did not stick to my board.
So good pick, Frank.
Okay.
I am going to stick with my.
board this time and this was also game theory. I saw some people in the chat, surprise I didn't go
with Kenyan Sadiq in the first place. I figured I could get him in the next wave of picks I had here
and I am going to take Kenyan Sadiq. I had the Eagles moving up to get Kenyan Sadiq in the first round
on my mock draft that's up on all p.hoy.com this morning. I just, I will keep saying it. He is a
player that has the upside to be a difference maker in a draft where you don't have a lot of those guys.
So for that reason, to find a, you know, a tight end of the future,
give you a player that can give you the versatility to be scheme diverse in his first season
alongside Dallas Goddard.
I think he is a, you know, I think he's being underappreciated as a blocker, as a combo
tight end because of his size.
I really like the prospect.
I really like the profile.
And yeah, even if he is in range for the Eagles, I could see them moving up,
especially if there's an early run on offensive line.
And so I feel good about Kenyat-Sadik.
I feel a little bit worse, I will admit, to the viewers and the readers of my mock draft.
I felt great about my mock draft when I went to sleep and I woke up and I looked at it and I was like,
if they don't, if they have one offensive lineman in their first four picks, I mean, if I was grading that draft,
I probably wouldn't give it an A.
I'd give it a B-plus, probably.
So already waffling.
Worse than the, what was the Johnny Munt pick?
I mean, the Johnny Munt signing was slam dunk.
Do you think, do you guys really think that they're definitely going to take two
Offensive Lime in the first?
Oh, I don't think they'll definitely take two, but if they're, if they're one, if they're one is a day is a third round pick on the interior.
Well, theoretically on the interior.
Yeah.
I wouldn't feel great about that.
I also, I don't think, and listen, I use my first pick on Markle Bell.
So I'm speaking out of my both sides of my mouth a little bit, but I don't think if they don't draft a tackle in round one, that they're going to feel like they need to force a tackle up the board.
I don't think so.
I think the reason they want to draft a tackle in the first round
is to get a guy who can be a long-term starter.
I think they're okay with the depth at the moment
with Fred Johnson hoping on Cameron Williams.
I think they would like to add somebody else to that pipeline.
But it's not like they're thinking
if we don't get Lanes replacement
or right tackle of the future in round one,
we can get him later.
I think you're looking at a different profile.
You know what it is, though?
I wrote about this because I had them taken Jude Bowery
in the fourth round of my mock draft.
Boston College.
Yeah, the rationale behind it was you at least,
have like more pathways toward finding elaine johnson's success right i i very cautiously compared it
to and jordan milada now listen jordan mylotta was seventh round pick out of australia like i know that that's not
actually like they weren't drafting him going he might replace jason peters one day but i think that the
the process at least can teach you taking a couple flyers on guys like that yes you're not it doesn't
preclude you from taking a uh using a first round pick on a sure fire or more surefire prospect that you can
put in to that spot, but it gives you at least some more
optionality. So I think it wouldn't shock me if they do keep
adding to the room in the way that they have with like a guy like Cameron
Williams. So for that reason, it's a good segue into my next pick.
Hold on. You're going to say something. No, I was good. I just, I don't think
they will force it. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I just, I think that
there's a good chance they'd add a guy on day three. Yeah. Okay. And for that
reason, I'm not going to take Jude Bowery. I like Jude Bowery. And I'm
talking out of both sides of my mouth. I'm taking Isaiah World out of Oregon.
because he is probably a round or two later,
and this is the game theory of trying to get an extra point out of this.
So he is a player that was reportedly in for a pre-draft visit,
just a massive offensive line prospect.
And when I watched him, I was actually like,
this guy moves pretty well for that size.
So I believe, yeah, but say,
he's coming off the ACL.
He's going to miss the season.
Was that a January ACL?
Yeah.
So he's probably a red shirt player for the Eagles,
but he also has like that Cameron Williams,
like, ah, if he had had a better season, if he was healthy,
you'd be a, you know, be a, I don't know if he'd be a first round prospect,
but a second or third round prospect at the very least.
So I like him as a potential fit for day three.
And yeah, I'm trying to get the extra points from maybe one of these
offensive linemen I like a little bit more on day two.
Okay.
Over to you, Fran.
So I'm trying to think of who is least likely to make it back to me.
Let me ask you, let me ask you a question really quick.
If I had taken Sadiq instead of Ihonichore, would you have taken Ihonoture on the
turn last? I would have taken him with one of my two picks.
Okay, got it. I was thinking that as, because I was, I was down to Sadiq Oriana Char with my,
my last, okay. I am going to go, looking at my day two list, most likely for Bo to take.
Let's go. Just took a receiver.
Let's go. Let's go with another Georgia guy.
We're going to go tight end Oscar.
That's okay. No, I wasn't going to pick him next, but he was on my board.
just because you said you were going to take another tight end um Oscar Delp production profile stinks
uh did not put up a lot from especially in terms of a three-year starter uh this guy has been an inline
presence for Georgia the last three years and he did such a good job as the starter as a sophomore playing
alongside Brock Bowers they're like hey we're going to keep you in that role and you are not going to
be a high volume target in our past game but he's a good athlete you see that in the flashes uh with
him as a receiver and he tested that way at the pro day I think when you look at Delp he's got
a multifaceted skill set.
I've seen some compare him to Dallas Goddard when he was coming out.
I wasn't quite there.
But if you told me that of that group of tight ends,
when you get into day two and into early day three,
who's the most likely to hit like high end ceiling?
I think it is Oscar Delps.
So if the Eagles see that,
I think that they might say this is a good opportunity here
as early as like with their second round pick.
I don't think that's crazy.
I think it's a good pick.
And I'm going to follow it up with another tight end.
and this is a place where the Eagles have found a tight end before.
And Sam Roush from Stanford is an interesting profile.
He's going to be 23.
He's big.
6-6-267.
And yet he's got short arms.
30 inches and 5.5.
8th inch arms.
He also ran only 4-7, which is pretty slow.
But he had this amazing vert.
So he's a weird athlete.
He can block.
I think there's real upside with him as a receiver.
Some of the stuff I was watching.
And yet he only had 10.1 yards per catch.
But some of that profile is actually similar to what Earths was like at Stanford.
Ertz did not test very well as an athlete.
Wasn't like prolific in terms of his yards per catch in Stanford,
although he had more yards receiving.
I think they're going to know enough about Sam Rosh.
And I think this is a guy who could pair with
if you're going to take like a Michael Trigg
or something like that.
I think there's a chance to say double dip at Tide End.
This could be the blocking version
with some receiving upside.
I like Sam Roush.
Yeah, I think Sam Roush, in terms of floor,
he's got one of the highest floors of that.
I talked about that group with Delp.
I think Delp has both a high floor
and a high ceiling.
I don't like Roush's ceiling as much,
but I do like his floor.
I do think he's got staying power in the league.
And a lot of what you said is right on.
I think, was he my guy that
Selik is the comp?
That might be right.
I think that might be right on.
And I'm going to go
with a position that we haven't drafted
yet.
And that is the defensive line.
And I'm going for another mid-round player.
A school that the Eagles know very well.
And a player who
in a class where most of the day
two, day three depth guys
are much older.
This is a younger player.
He's only going to be 21 as a rookie.
Not a time.
of production, but
allows you
to bring him to camp and sort of figure out
where it is that he best fits.
Could be on the edge and be sort of a power,
early down player. Yep. Could be an inside
guy who could down the line
compete to replace Morojojojo.
That is L.T. Overton
from Alabama, who we've talked
about there, you know, he's slow off the ball.
Sometimes he's like the last guy off the ball,
but having seen that be corrected
with Josh Sweat, I think maybe the Eagles feel like there's
some work they can do there.
I wonder about how much do you think you can improve a player who was at Alabama,
but this is a player who has some tools in his body.
And I think this is someone who they will know very well, given their touch points.
I'm taking LTE Overton.
I had him bold and underlined on my board.
I really liked him.
Does that mean?
It doesn't mean anything.
It means, you should keep that guy in mind.
The board's a mess.
Yeah, Overton is a good one.
He was on my list.
Yeah, that's a good one on day three.
All right, over you, Fran.
Really going back and forth here.
Do I go, I might go further down my board than I like,
just because I don't know that E.J.
is going to necessarily pick these players.
This is a guy I do think E.J. could take at a position
that I know E.J. thinks the Eagles will address.
I'm going to go with a safety.
Which one?
Jalen Kilgore, the same South Carolina.
Yeah, he's awkward.
Who you do not love.
I don't love him, but he fits their profile.
He's a, he's young.
He was at the senior ball.
He was a junior who went to the senior ball.
He played mostly as a big nickel for the, for South Carolina.
I don't think that he is a big nickel necessarily in the NFL.
And, but, you know, a lot of the ways that they talked about,
McCuba last year, I think kind of apply a little bit to that they're not the same player.
But I think that, you know, some of those things, hey, this is a guy that if he gets matched
up, you know, downfield, he's a, he's not going to be, you know, a fish out of water.
I do think that there's a lot to like about the profile.
I didn't love the ceiling.
But I do think that he fits a lot of what we typically see from an Eagles draft.
It's a good pick.
I'm also going to take a safety.
Okay.
AJ Halsey from LSU.
I think he's a little bit, I gave him to the Eagles in my mock draft
because I think he's a little bit more of an easy projection
into what the Eagles do defensively.
He's compared to Kevin Byard.
You know, peak Kevin Byard?
I like AJ Halsey.
I like, yeah, I like Halsey.
I like Halsey more than Kilgore.
Yeah, I think it's ironic.
Like, we, we probably like each other's guys more in this instance
because I like Jalen Kilgore.
But again, I think that Halsey is a little bit more of a clean fit.
So I'm going to go with him.
I'm also going to go back into the first round.
If Keltrick Falk is in range for the Eagles.
Okay, that's a good pick.
I was going to take him on the next time.
I think, yeah.
Oh, I actually have in my list.
He is a player that I would like to have on my list
because if the Eagles do draft Keltrick Falk,
I just, I, I, I, I, I would put it maybe eight turkeys.
Yeah.
That if he's in range for the Eagles, they're, not that he's in range for the Eagles.
And then from there.
I think there's a scenario where he's the only one of the guys they really like
at a premium position who is in range.
And if he is in range for the Eagles, I'd put it at like 80 turkeys,
that they move up, draft them, and everyone's laughing at the rest of the NFL
for letting him get to the Eagles.
Okay.
Yeah, I actually, I didn't have one of my,
list. Just because I think the chances of it happening were a little bit lower. I mean, I would love it.
I would love it. To me, that would be really exciting. All right. Who is Beau most likely to take?
I'll tell you what? I'll read a super chat. Uh, super chat. Two of them. We've got in from Fresh
Prince who says, as the person who coined Jihad Campbell to the Eagles in a super chat last year,
I'm going out on a limb to predict a trade-up
for the number one receiver in this draft
Jordan Tyson
that would be spicy
be very spicy
You have to get up high, I think, to take him
the only thing
He's the one I can see it with
Really?
Yeah
I didn't see like top five pick
at receiver when I watched him
I wouldn't go top five pick
but he's the guy who to me has the tools
and the profile that he would be a first round pick in any year.
The injuries are...
I'm but to say, like, you hate the Chris Bell idea because of the injuries,
among other things.
It's a different thing, though.
It is a different conversation.
I think the Tyson one, I actually heard a comp for him that I had not heard previously
over the weekend, and I think it's phenomenal.
Shout out to Matt Harmon from Yahoo, who gave him with Amari Cooper.
That is like so spot on because to me, like,
He is that kind of a frustrating player to watch Tyson over the last two years where you see
some really crisp routes.
And then you see some that are like, oh, he's, that's like, that's like, that's like an
Instagram TikTok round.
Like, you see some where it's like, oh, look at that phenomenal catch.
And then you see frustrating drops.
He's just like kind of leaves you wanting, but the flashes are really good.
I really like that comp.
And it's, he could be the first receiver off the board.
He could be the third or fourth receiver off the board.
He's a, but there's been a lot of steam.
And I think he's going to end up being a top.
12-ish bit.
Okay.
Yonis also has a super chat.
He says,
so Fran,
who is the draft analyst
out of the three,
is measured in his thoughts
about the players,
and yet E.J. and Bo are confident
in who is good and who sucks.
Yeah.
You got to.
I try to be measured.
That's fair.
All right.
Next pick.
Next pick is you.
All right.
Offensive line.
Going back to it.
I'm going to go with a guy
that I think we've heard
a little bit of day two steam on.
Maybe an early day three guy.
I think there are some markers here for the Eagles.
He's actually one of the last linemen I've watched.
Memphis tackle, Travis Burke.
Yeah.
Texting me about this guy.
I like Travis Burke a little bit.
I think that,
so the comp,
I think I put it in the draft guide,
was a more physical Matt Pryor.
He's a mammoth human being.
Another guy like Markell Bell,
he's not as big as Markle Bell,
but he's a big tackle.
Has four position flex where he's played left tackle,
left guard, right tackle.
That's something that the Eagles like.
was dinged up at the end of the year
and that kept him from the All-Star game process.
But I think when you look at Travis Burke,
the size, the strength and power,
he's pretty nimble athlete for a guy that big,
the four-position flex,
and this guy is one of the toughest
most physical offensive linemen I've watched.
Not like the,
there's like the gritty, like toughness with Blake Miller, right?
But then there's like,
this guy is trying to finish every single defender of the ground,
like Landon Dickerson.
That's what Travis Burke is.
So I'm going to go Travis Burke here as a potential eagle.
Okay. I like that.
He was on your board? He was on my board. Yeah. You text me about him.
I was on my board as well. All right. I'm going to make our last pick in this round before we go to break here.
And I am just going to, I'm going to throw one extra dart at the tight end position for a guy who's a day two guy most likely.
And that is Max Clare from Ohio State, who I think consensus seems to be a little higher on than you, Fran.
You see some issues with the profile, not a lot of blocking.
whereas Will Casmeric does that.
But I think Claire is one of the guys
who people think can be a starting caliber
all around Tide End if he adds that blocking stuff.
And I think the big school nature of it
will appeal to the Eagles.
Even though they haven't drafted a guy from Ohio State since.
Brian Roll?
Let's go.
Oh, I can't believe you actually did that.
Didn't see that coming.
All right.
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Back in the PHAWI Eagles podcast, Bo Fran EJ, the seventh round of the Al U-No draft is up.
We're drafting players we think the Eagles are most likely to select.
You get a three points per correct pick and then however many rounds it is.
I need one guy in the first round.
Yeah.
I need one little bit of first round equity.
And it's the one wide receiver who I could see the Eagles talking themselves into.
The profile is pretty good, not perfect.
The true freshman year, I think, is really awesome.
The guy who would fit in the offense and do some things that Mania might want to do.
I don't know that they would do it at 23.
This could be a situation where the board doesn't work out exactly as they want.
They move down a couple spots.
And they draft Casey Concepcio.
I think they have to take him a 23.
Okay.
I think they have to take him a 23.
I think there is a world in which all four of the top tackles are going.
gone.
Yeah.
Falk is gone.
Sadiq is gone.
And you're on the board and you're talking about Concepcioner, Ehanachur.
Right.
And I could see Concepcion winning that battle.
Ehaniore is not quite ready.
Right.
We don't, you know, he's just not graded as highly as Concepcion is.
I love that kid, man.
He's awesome.
He's a fun player to watch.
He's tough.
He's physical for his size.
He's got strong hands.
I know the drops are a thing that the Eagles,
have to feel good about.
But yeah, I love his fit.
It's just hard to envision them using a first rounder on a receiver.
Okay.
I can see.
I mean, he was my first pick for the Eagles of my first mock back in January.
I do think...
Your job sliding that in, so you can also take credit.
That's important.
That's right.
I heard like he's not getting past 24.
Cleveland picks a 24,
and as long as they take a tackle with their first pick,
I think he would be their second pick.
If he makes it there,
Carolina is the other big one at 19 watch
Okay
All right
And I would I think that he is likely than Omar Cooper
Even though they brought in Omar Cooper
For I agree with that
He was on my board
Is he on your board?
U.S.
All right
I am gonna go
I'm gonna go day three shot
I am gonna go
I'm gonna go
I'm only taking one tight end
I'm gonna take him one tight end
I know I've got like
I had like nine tight ends up in the word
It's the seventh round
So we only got three picks
Yeah
Or four picks
All right
I'm gonna go
I'm gonna go with the defensive lineman
I'm gonna go with Duke's
Wesley Williams
You're going with a Howie's connection
Yeah let's go Wesley Williams
The Duke connection continues here
I like Wesley Williams
Duke has a few defenders in this class
He
Chandler Rivers has a higher grade
He's the nickel corner
I don't think they would take
They would take the nickel corner
and he's like a third, fourth-round pick.
I think Wesley Williams, you're probably talking fourth, fifth round.
Versatility.
This is a guy that lined up primarily off the edge,
but I think that he gives you a little bit of flex
to be able to kick inside at times.
It's not dissimilar skill set to LT Overton.
I think he's a more reliable player, high floor player.
I enjoyed studying him,
and I thought that he had a higher grade than the other kid,
Vincent Anthony, who ended up going to the senior ball.
I like his tape.
He's a good kid.
Yeah, sign me up for Wesley Williams.
The connection here is that,
that Howie's son works for the Duke football team
and does specific work with the defensive line.
Yep.
So there you go.
They will have some information.
The cohab.
Yeah.
The cohab.
I'm up, right?
You're gonna, I've got two picks.
So with the first one,
I'm gonna go with a player that
is not loved on this show.
It's not, I don't think either of you guys
are big fans of this player,
but I feel like if he slides in the draft,
just a little bit.
This could be one of those
Howie-WOWEs
in the third of the fourth round.
I'm going to go with Eli Stowers.
Why didn't you just take him in like though
with your last pick?
Yeah, that's probably fair.
Yeah, you guys were,
you guys were not going to go
with Eli Stowers.
But I think it would make sense
if he slides in the draft
because of the positional ambiguity
that he has.
He is always traditional type.
Yeah, and I honestly think
that that is a type of move
the Eagles would make
in the fourth round
if he were available then.
Will he make it that far?
Probably, I wouldn't suspect you'd make it that far,
but if he does start to hang around
and you know, you start to see those best available charts
and it's like, you know, Eli Stowers just sticking out like a sore thumb,
I could see the Eagles making that move.
Okay.
I struggle to say to make that move.
You what?
I struggle seeing them make that move.
It would be very funny for after how he said what he said about the tight end position.
Yeah, because of the last hour.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, they could always balance it out with another Johnny Munt type.
Just take Michael Trigg later.
I'm going to take Gabe Accus as well.
Okay.
A player I think fits Vic Fangio's play personality requirements.
I think he would be a nice rotational edge piece that they could add.
I don't think it would preclude them for like making a move for a Jonathan Grenard,
but you could feel good about the future of that room if you drafted somebody like Gabe Accus is like part of the rotation in the long term.
I think it's a good one.
Yeah, it was a good one.
He's definitely their play personality type very much in the same way.
took to deny Dennis Sutton.
I do think he's probably more likely to go
early round two and kind of like in that.
Yeah, I think that's kind of where
we're kind of talking about with Accus.
But it's not completely out of the question
they would follow him.
That's early for him.
I would have suspected he would be late round two,
like early round three.
Just because he doesn't quite have the ceiling
that the other guys have, but he just is, he's awesome.
I think the high floor guys though are going to go earlier.
Makes sense.
This year.
Okay.
Time for France.
eighth round pick,
but you're going to have to find out
who he takes in overtime.
Owolvertime.
There you go.
Friends, so far you have selected
Monroe Freeling, Maxi Honachore,
deny Dennis Sutton,
Oscar Delp, Jalen Kilgore,
Travis Burke, and Wesley Williams.
So,
I'm going to go with another
likely day three pick here.
I'm going to go back to the tight end position,
a guy that reportedly had in
for a 30 visit,
the guy that I am higher
on than most.
Yeah.
Bo's favorite
prospect of the draft.
Nate,
Workercher.
Now, see,
game theory-wise,
I should have waited
on this way.
I should have waited
until the next round,
knowing that
Bo's unlikely to take the picture.
Yeah,
but if you waited that long,
you might have died.
I like old age.
I like workature.
To me,
this is a guy that has the ability
to be a dual threat tight end
as both a receiver
and as a pass catcher,
or as a blocker.
Yeah, a well-rounded skill set
that I think would play well in this office.
Tune in this.
weekend to see if the Eagles make that selection how the show goes. That'll be fun.
You were in Texas A&M colors.
I am. You're right. All right. I'm going to take a day three dice roll here.
And this is a player who has some work to do, pretty low on France's cornerback board.
But they have signed Rieck Wullen, a player with a slightly similar height speed profile.
on the outside.
22 years old.
He's almost 6.4 on the outside.
33 and a half inch arms,
around a 4-4-1 with a 159, 10-yard split.
And he's got a great name.
That's right.
Takario Davis, the Taco Man,
who I think profile-wise,
there's a little bit of like,
oh, it worked with Woolen.
He can watch Woolen as a similar-sized player
and he's much skinnier.
but there we go
Takario Davis
we haven't seen this connection
really result in a lot of
Eagles draft picks
but it's usually brought up this kind of
this time of year
that Howie Roseman
and the head coach of Washington
were college roommates
Jed Fish
Jed Fish
Yeah always a good one
whenever you bring up former Washington
or previously Arizona play
All right I'm gonna use my
Real quick fun fact about
Ticario Davis
My nephew is like almost five feet tall
in like third grade.
He's very tall.
Like real,
like he's all,
he's literally all legs.
Third grade?
Yeah,
he's 10 years old.
He's,
he's having a picture
to make,
to make this car.
Yeah,
so I texted him a picture
of my nephew at Flagfoot
because he like,
I mean,
he's ridiculous.
He's literally all arms and legs.
He's very,
uh,
he's just sprouting up real quick.
And I said my nephew's really got that Takario Davis built.
Wow.
That's very funny.
All right.
I'm using my ninth round pick on the first quarterback to be selected.
Oh, man.
And I actually think there's a good chance
Eagles trade for a quarterback this weekend.
It's on my radar.
Just something to keep in mind for tomorrow show when we do our seven round mock.
But I think this is the likely we all agreed day three pick.
If they take a dice roll here, you had them in your mock draft.
E.J., that is Drew Aller from Penn State.
I'm going to put a little, I'll put a little flag on Drew Aller.
Yeah, he was in bold on my board.
He was going to be next up for me.
Hold and underline.
He didn't underline.
I didn't underline.
Just pulled it.
All right, friend.
How many more picks do we have?
You've got two picks left.
I have two picks left.
I didn't take a receiver yet.
You have not taken a receiver?
Not taking a receiver?
All right, give me, I don't know,
there's been a lot of steam for this guy.
All right, I'm going to pass on him.
Give me Jalen Farmer, the Kentucky offensive line.
I like you.
A heavy-handed guard, went to the senior bowl.
I think he's got some traits
that they would like.
I believe he's a 30 visit guy, right?
I believe he's on the 30 visit guy, I believe.
Could be right about that, could be wrong about that.
But Jalen Farmer from Kentucky, he is a guy that I will take here with my ninth pick.
Jalen Farmer.
I really liked watching.
Every time he hit somebody, it felt like he was like, he was like, dramatic.
He was on the 30 visit.
Like every time he hit someone, you could just see him knock, knock, like you could see the knockback.
You could see it like, he keeps his feet moving.
I mean, it was, he was a fun guy.
I like Janne Farmer too.
Yeah.
Who was your first pick from that last turn?
It was Drew Aller and who?
Taco Davis.
Ah, yes.
All right.
Is he going to my taco?
He does in my mind.
I mean, that'd be a sick nickname.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You have two picks, your final two picks.
Okay.
I'm going to just.
So far.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
I would like to hear the second.
Peyton Proctor.
Yeah.
Chris Bell.
Mm-hmm.
Kenyan Sadeek.
Isaiah World.
A.J.
Halsey.
Keldrick Falk.
Eli Stowers.
And Gay.
Dave Accus.
Man, I don't have a lot of,
I have a lot of positional diversity.
But you really, you have,
I think you only have one guy
who's really a day three possibility.
You are,
which is probably the right thing to do,
but you are clustered in the early two, three.
I am hoping that we don't get a lot of these right.
Clearly.
Well,
I'm going to go with one day three possibility
and I'm going back to round one.
But I'm going to load up on one position.
I do think the Eagles will prioritize,
which is along the offensive line.
I'm going to take Jude Bow,
Okay. I'm surprised that he made it this far.
He is...
I did think about... What a shock.
Who did...
Stop your show.
Jude Bowery made it.
Don't let the Eagles get Jude Bowery now.
To pick 27.
Yeah, I had the Eagles taking him at 137 in the fourth round.
I texted Fran. I don't know if he's making it that far.
That was kind of me going like, I'll shoehorn him in there.
I think that's, I think that's right around the range.
He feels like an Eaglesie-type pick.
He's got some positional, at least theoretical, positional versatility.
tackle from Boston College
with good movement skills. And for that reason,
I do like him as a fit. Maybe as
somebody that they bump inside and, you know, they
maybe have a pathway toward bumping
back out to tackle. So yeah,
I like him as a fit. And then
with my last pick,
I just want to get it on the record because if it happens,
I'll sound smart. If Spencer
Fano falls enough. Yeah, okay.
I love him as a prospect. I think
he'd be a great fit for the Eagles. He's another one
that I think he's a tackle. I'm with Fran.
Like, I do think that he can stick a tackle. But
again if he
if he has to play guard
I think he'd be a really good guard
so if he falls
I could see the Eagles moving up to get him
I just don't expect him to fall
EJ I think you handled
the game theory aspect
of this well
for your first time
I was so scared
I was like he's about to say poorly
I was like a glist in his eye
I think he just teared up a little bit
thank you that means a lot
we'll see now you're making a bet
that we're not going to hit any
any of the late round picks
but I think, I think, I think you did some appropriate things.
If I didn't get the Eagles first,
if I didn't get any of the guys in like the first two or three rounds, though,
I mean, yeah, yeah.
All right, friend, you're on your board for your last pick.
This is a fun one.
So, not a 30 visit, not a 30 visit.
So just go inside my process a little bit.
When I watch a player, I do all the bio stuff first,
then I do the film.
And as I'm doing the film, I go through it.
I'm like, all right, who are some guys?
Because I start thinking about players that the player,
reminds me of so I start getting some measurables and start to draw some comps.
And one of the things I see, I'm like, all I already have all the combine measurements on USC
pass rusher Anthony Lucas.
So I got that I go like height weight, length stamp.
He's got really long arms.
It's like average height, average weight, great length first position.
We didn't have a testing profile, but I thought it was kind of a modest, you know, athlete,
production profile was really bad.
Like, he only had no sacks before this year.
He only had three last year.
When he gets drafted.
It'll be fewer TFLs than any pass rush or draft in the last decade.
Like this guy has not put up any numbers whatsoever.
There are some startling things with the profile.
But when I went back and I looked, I was like,
oh, well, who were some guys that had a similar kind of skill set as this player?
And I was like, all right, here's a list of 20 where it was like the average height,
weight, and then above average length.
Some players that popped up on a list of 20 edge rushers in the last 10 years.
Josh Sweat, O'Shaun, O'Shaun, Jalix Hunt, Joe Tryon,
Terrell Lewis, all eagles, all former eagles.
Now there's a bunch of other, you know,
I mentioned like Josh Swett, Jaylux Hunt,
like a bunch of those guys.
And so I'm looking, I'm like, all right,
this is like a Howie type.
You know, and some of those guys did not pretty,
you know, Josh Swett didn't produce,
Jaylux Hunt didn't produce,
O'Shea Mathis didn't produce.
Day three,
kind of how we fit.
So I'm going to go, Anthony Lucas.
This is a complete shot in the dark.
Tony Lucas.
Start his career, Texas A&M,
transferred to USC,
got hurt in 2024,
was a season-ending ankle injury.
So that's why you didn't have much production
as a junior, his first year as a starter.
Came back this year and again,
like, there's some limitations there.
But honestly, when I was going through the rest of that name,
the names of those 20 guys,
a lot of backups.
Like, there's a kind of a startling hit rate
where I'm like, oh, like, a lot of these guys
with these dimensions, with this profile hit.
Yeah, Anthony Nugus, he got a backup great for me
and the draft guy.
Okay, that's a fun one.
Yeah.
Good, good find.
All right.
Now, since I get to go last,
this allows me to play the game of just naming all the different people on my board right now
to take a moniker credit just do that at the end anyway
who am i going to take i have nussmire on the board yeah same but i'm not going to i'm not
going to i'm not going to go yeah how about i say these guys and you tell me if they're also on
your board yeah yep uh i have only one running back on my board i didn't have anything and that's
nick singleton i feel like that could be like a howie type move on on day five or round five yeah
Day five.
I've got Omar Cooper on the board as a possibility.
They brought him in,
but I don't think that's going to happen.
Malachi Fields I have on the board.
Oh,
I didn't have them on.
Antonio Williams,
there are some touch points there,
but it's a different type of profile.
I could go back to the tight end well,
Joe Royer or John Michael Gillenborg.
How big was your list?
How many players are you got out?
38 or so.
I went 34.
On our content call this morning.
Yeah.
To pull the viewers behind the curtain.
Yeah.
I was like, yeah,
I'll probably list out 30 guys.
And Bo is like, you're going to do all 30?
And I was like, yeah, like, I feel like I need to have 30.
Well, I was only saying that you probably, it's not going to get to 30.
You told me I needed 18 if you want, but you know, you can do them.
It feels like a little sabotage.
I really like R. Mason Thomas.
Yeah, I had him on my board.
I don't know that he's their type.
I don't think he's not quite big enough.
I don't know.
I like him a lot.
Grayson Halton I have on there if you're looking for just the Moro type.
Caleb Proctor as well.
from Southeast Louisiana.
I like Daryl Jackson,
the Bunkley thing is in my mind,
but I don't think that's a great fit either.
Your boy, Malik Mohamed,
I have as like,
that could be one where on day two,
he's just the top player on their board.
I would like that pick.
Robert Spears Jennings is not a great player,
but has the tools
that they might be intrigued by.
I think that profile fits.
Yep.
And then I've got three guys
of that similar wide receiver type,
the Ted Hurst type.
Caleb Douglas,
who they brought in.
Deshaun's stribbling,
who they brought in.
I had them on my
guys.
I had those guys on there.
And Bryce Lance.
You have Bryce Lance.
Okay.
And then there's one other guy
who we all really love
or at least you and I do.
I think E.J. does too.
Who it's just if they
want this guy in the offense,
they could see a role for him.
Oh yeah.
And it's Sean Manny being like,
you know what?
I can do something with that guy.
Maybe?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't wait to see when he's drafted.
I'm interested.
Like, could that be the guy?
That's Eli Hayden,
Yeah.
Between going out on a limb on Heidenreich or just taking one of the other wide receivers
that they brought in for a visit, I think I'm going to go Caleb Douglas only because
they brought him in for a reason.
It's very similar to the Ania Smith.
Like this is a guy who's going to go day three.
Yeah.
They brought him in.
He's a plan B, a plan C of some kind.
Yeah.
Tell us a little bit about Caleb Douglas because we didn't talk about him on the wider
receiver show.
We didn't get that deep.
Yeah.
I personally didn't love Caleb Douglas.
you know, seeing, you know, watching the tape,
big body receiver,
not a ton of, like, dynamic, like, playmaking ability there.
And I struggled with, like, the separation skills.
Didn't love them, see him live at the Senior Bowl.
I have struggled with Caleb Doug.
If you're a diehard, you can go check out the full write-up.
But, yeah, I saw, like, late round, big-bodied receiver.
Yeah, I didn't love the profile.
6.3-5, 206, around a 4-3-9.
Yeah, which is better than expected.
Got big hands.
Yeah, I felt like he, he had some good releases, I thought,
but he is not a natural catcher of the ball,
and he doesn't separate after those.
So that's the thing.
I'm like, all right, like big body,
struggle to separate and drops.
I'm like, I just, I struggle with guys like that.
Yes, but they brought him in.
So I did.
I'll throw that dart there.
I thought about stribling,
but there's been so much steam with him about going early.
So like, I'm like, the day two guys are tough.
It's like, it's kind of like what we're saying about Chris Bell.
I think Chris Bell's going to go early round two.
I don't think he's a trade down option for them.
I don't think they would trade up that far.
And that's kind of where I was at was stribbling between round two and round three.
I had Bauer Sharp.
Yeah, they brought in for, yeah.
I had J. Spassantis on my list.
I had Jordan Tyson on my list.
I had Devin Moore, the corner from Florida.
I think that's a good one.
I also had DeAngelo Pons on there.
Yeah, just for yourself.
Yeah.
Like if he made it to their second round pick,
which I had him going,
the top 50 in both of my mocks, but he could very easily fall into the 60s.
I could see him being just like, I think good.
Yeah, those are the guys on my left.
E.J. Who you have? A couple guys. Trade and Stukes.
Yeah. One that I'm actually kind of kicking myself I didn't get is Zane Durant.
I had him in my mock draft. I think he is like that, I mean, to call him an Ojo
type is the very high range outcome for a player like him, but a past rest specializing interior
defensive lineman. I think he made sense. I think though with, because you guys,
you said it with Halton, too.
The thing with both of those players, I worry about the run game.
When I think of Milton and I think of Ojimo, both guys were awesome in the rest of it.
That was the thing what made them so attractive is like they were really good at the point
of attack but then also had the athleticism.
This class, honestly, the only guy that I can think of where I'm like, oh, he kind of has that
is your boy on Yeddaum.
Yeah, I liked him.
Yeah.
Caleb Lomu, I feel like none of us wanted him because like we'd all be pretty underwhelmed.
Yeah, he probably should have been drafted.
But still, you know, honestly, the reason I feel like, I feel like, I feel like,
find about not having him is like I think when how he was talking about like the lessons learned
you know from the the first round picks that they've missed on he has way too much Andre
Dillard for me to feel good about it you think we should have drafted Blake Miller no same
reason he is the he is the most popular mock pick for the of all the they uh I you know I
chart that on and have the consensus mock yeah but are you do you he is the most mock player
and I all all mocks are equal in this right yeah these are it's not like it's not
like, you know.
You're not giving extra credence to Jeremiah or whoever.
No, all mocks are created equal.
In the comments, let us know how you'd feel if the Eagles drafted Blake Miller.
Like, I feel like it's one of those things where, yeah, if like you're just looking at it, like, they need a tackle.
Let's give him Blake Miller.
But you know, like the types of players, Eagles usually target, it's hard to see them doing that.
DJ was the first to give them Blake Miller.
Oh, man.
He has not given to them since, but he was the first to mock him to.
mock him to them in February.
I should know this.
Who does he have the eagles taken as the most recent?
I haven't seen the,
I haven't seen the,
I kind of feel like,
I kind of feel like that could happen.
We'd surprise me.
It would all be so uncomfortable.
It would really, it would really,
it would really surprise me.
There are markers there that you could like,
oh, like the toughness, you know, that kind of thing.
This starts, the, the experience.
I don't know, he doesn't have, like, unique trait.
Yeah.
He tested well, but it wasn't like a, it wasn't like a freaky, like,
It was like, not unusual.
Yeah.
That would surprise me.
I got two more.
Caleb Tiernan.
Yeah.
I feel like Jack Driscoly.
Yeah, he is Jack.
Yeah, I feel like that might be a day three option.
And then UR.
Bernard,
I mean, like,
just an international player pathway type of player.
That'd be fun.
I, like, now I'm kicking myself.
I wish I had him on mine just for the fun of him on there.
There's no reports about them having him in for 30.
They did have Mila in for a 30.
Okay.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah.
That was notable.
Okay. It was fun. It was fun.
One more time, running it down. E.J., Caden Proctor, Chris Bell, Kenyon Sadiq, Isaiah World,
A.J. Halsey, Keldrick Falk, Eli Stowers, Gabe Accus, Jude Bower, and Spencer Fano.
Fran, Monroe Freeling, Maxi Hanachor, Denai, Dennis Sutton, Oscar Delp,
Cailin Kilgore, Travis Burke, Wesley Williams, Nate Borkature, Jalen Farmer,
and Tony Lucas, Anthony Lucas.
Bo.
Markell Bell,
Justin Joe Lee,
Ted Hurst,
Sam Roush,
L. T. Overton,
Max Clare,
Casey, Concepcion,
Takario Davis,
Drew Aller,
and Caleb Douglas.
I don't think I'm going to win.
No,
you don't feel good about it?
You're either going to...
I took too many long shots.
Yeah, well,
you're going to either win
and really be able to puff out
your chest or, yeah,
it'll be one of us.
I want to shout out,
leaving the pocket in the chat.
The highest upside Ojamo replacement
is really Keldrick Falk, 4-I, 3-Tech, Nickel End,
ability to 2-2 gap, probably all those things.
Honestly, I've got a type, and this makes a lot of sense,
because I love Milton Williams, I love more, Oge.
Both guys were top 30, top 40 players for me.
So I liked them more than consensus, and Falk, obviously.
I think that's right.
When we talked about Falk, he would solve
a lot of different little, long-term, medium problems for the Eagles.
And I know there, some people worry about the production.
I don't, he had, he had eight sacks the previous season.
a true sophomore in the SEC.
It's fine.
It's not, you don't need the,
you just need to see that it's there.
And that was when he was playing more inside.
So, yeah, I think that would be a home run
outcome from the Eagles.
I would be surprised if he gets that far.
Yeah, I think there's a decent chance
he ends up with an all city team.
Okay.
Yeah.
Dallas, I think you could end up when.
I think you could end up fulfilling.
All right.
How will you know in the books?
What a graphic.
Thank you, Lindsay.
Tomorrow, E.J. and I will be in studio for our final seven round Eagles mock drafts.
And then we continue the party with the turkeys to the draft kingdom draft.
Which one is that?
Fran will join us remotely for that.
That is where we've got a bunch of different categories like at 23.
The Eagles stay put, move up, move back.
Spread your 100 turkeys.
Same thing for will they make a trade for a veteran or sending a veteran away?
same thing for round two.
There will be about 10 or 12 questions.
We've got to spread our turkeys
and we track that over the course of draft weekend.
Quick question on the seven round mock.
Yes.
Oh, here we go.
Is it a violation if it's different than the one?
I was going to ask you that.
I was going to ask the same question.
I'm asking you.
Here's what I think.
You are allowed to change it.
Yeah.
But if you do,
you can then not take any credit
for the one that is published.
That's the one of record.
Any changes you make,
make that your final
follow-up question.
If you were in the scenario and you did this,
you would reject that notion entirely, wouldn't you?
No, I don't think so.
We both know that's not true.
But that's fine.
I'll think about it.
You get to decide, yeah.
I want to cast a wide net.
Well, sure, but that's cheating.
No, it's not.
Whatever.
All right, good stuff today.
Thank you, Lindsay.
We will be back with you tomorrow at 2 o'clock.
Of course, remember Thursday night, Friday, Saturday.
We are live throughout the entire draft.
And if you are local, you can join us at the Chickas and Peets in Marlton on Thursday night for the live show, the three of us.
And Brandon Lee Gouton.
It's going to be a party.
Great.
A lot of people have bought tickets.
A lot of Earthsvips.
Yeah, I was like, what was that?
There been a lot of Earthsfibs.
Cozant type.
There's a player in the draft.
I am I am efforting
do the name guide
published
but there's a player who has a
who has a sneezing sounding name
I'm trying to find it
Um
No no
It might be Maxi Hanachor
Basantus
Yeah
Basantus
Yeah
Basantus
I mean it ends
What's nice is that
Aggressively actually
All right
That's all we got
Thank you Lindsay
Thank you for joining us live
Let us know what you think about Blake Miller
and who's going to win this year's Al-Wing-Draft.
We'll talk to you tomorrow at 2 o'clock.
And as always, we love you.
