PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Eagles Draft: Can Keldric Faulk, T.J. Parker bring EDGE to Eagles & Fangio? | PHLY Eagles Podcast

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

Nolan Smith and Jalyx Hunt are here, with Arnold Ebiketie and no Jaelan Phillips, but Howie Roseman will always prioritize pass-rush and the sweet spot for No. 23 could mean players like Keldric Faulk and T.J. Parker are in consideration. We preview the Edge class with an Eagles tilt, so join EJ Smith, Bo Wulf and Fran Duffy for everything you need to know. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

And welcome the H.I Eagles podcast on Tuesday. Go Wolf, E.J. Smith, live from the Xfinity Studio, and presented by Bet365 and Ashley. We're talking Edge today as we continue our position previews for the Eagles as the NFL draft approaches.

Tight ends in the books. Edge today. Different, different group entirely. Whereas yesterday, it's like there's one guy at the top. Yeah. And then like, okay, maybe there's a couple guys you like on day three. There's like six guys who are going to go in the first round here.

Yeah, first-ish. All kinds of guys who check all the boxes. Now, some of them will go along before the Eagles have a chance, but this is a fun group to go through. How did you enjoy the experience? I like watching edge rushers. It's a pretty straightforward evaluation a lot of times, just in the sense that, you know, I feel like you can tell quicker

if you're going to like an eddresher than some of these other positions. Do you want to see how they move? Yeah, exactly. Because that body moving around. And it's fun because you can put them into, to different buckets. I want to note two things before we start this exercise, like big picture takeaways looking at this edge group. First and foremost, if you look at Franz Big Board, he's got one, two, three, four, five guys in the top 16, and then his next

guy is at 46 on his big board. Okay. Which I think speak, and I think it feels that way when you watch this group. There's five or six guys that you're like, yeah, I could see it with this guy. I think he's a first round like type talent, maybe late first, early second for some of these guys. And then after that, it feels like there's a big cluster of players that are like imperfect in one way or another. You kind of have to pick the flaw that you're most comfortable with. I think that's right. We will get to it. We're going to do the show today. We're going to talk about some of the first round guys up top. We'll do a segment on the second day two guys that we each like respectively. Then we'll do, we'll bring Fran in and talk about some day three guys. But I, I, there are some second round

guys who I like and have specific thoughts on. There's a second round guy who. But then after like, Edge 9 on Fran's board. All of those other guys are a little bit indistinguishable. I think Edge 9 was a good cutoff point after. There's like there. There's the small, speedy guys over here. Yeah,

it's funny. There's the big Hulkers over here. There's really a big delineation. Like, there's not very, there's not very many normal ed dressers in this class. Yeah. You know,

after the top, yeah. Yeah. Even at the top, like David Bailey is like 6.3, 250. Like, okay.

Yeah, that's a normal ed dresser. But like, I would say Rubin Bain and Arvel Reese are also, like kind of in one of those two buckets where it's like you're either kind of like a really big guy who doesn't have the movement skills but you're physical or you're a smaller guy and it's like Nick Benito like oh yeah like this guy could maybe be like an undersized guy but with power and explosiveness off the edge so I don't know it was a fun group to watch because of that you

kind of had to figure out who could bridge the gap well let's talk about those three guys you just mentioned up top because those are the three guys who it would be shocking if the eagles have any chance to even trade up for now Arvel recent David Bailey especially those guys are going to go top five potentially. Yeah. Likely. But do you have any strong opinions about those two? Not too many.

David Bailey's awesome to watch. Arvel Reese is awesome to watch. With Arvel Reese, I wrote, I'll let Fran figure out where this guy fits in the league. He's just fun. He's just a fun guy to watch play football. He had so much more power than I was expecting him to have a size. Listen, I think because it is a, like, it's a more popular position in the league now, but there are a few examples of like those undersized guys.

who move from offball linebacker to edge rusher. Like Nick Benito is like, I mentioned him a second ago. Like he is like the trademark. Like if you're going to be 6.3, 240, like, you know, oh, he could be like Nick Benito or Hassan Reddick. Like, there's not that many examples of it working in the league. But with Arvel Reese, like, I think it's going to work in the league for him just because he is so powerful at that size.

He kind of, you know, one of the other things like, you know, I hear Fran talk drafts so much. I'm starting to pick up some of the, some of the phrases that he uses a lot. like Arvo Reese to me like the size isn't a problem unless it's a problem and it's it doesn't seem to be an issue for him yeah I mean he's he's 6 4241 he's a little bit underneath but yeah he is he is powerful I will say I it's a little tricky with Arvall Reese because are you about to make fun of Matt Patricia no okay I just I would I would I would I would have a tough time if I were who has the number the Jets have the number two checks are number two yeah picking between

Arvo Reese and David Bailey because David Bailey is a more certain prototypical edge rusher you know he's he's gonna be on the field and he's a tick older whereas Arvall Reese is going to be 21 as a rookie but you haven't seen him do it full time

I find that actually I think that would be a difficult conversation and a difficult decision to make who I would pick because I think the Arval Reese thing is a little trickier than other than just well this guy's freaking awesome yeah I mean it's probably going to take

the right deal defensive coordinator. If it's a Matt Patricia type, you might see him playing like off ball and, you know, being like the guy running the pole in like a cover two. And it's like, I don't know if I want that for him. But he's such a good player. I think he's going to make it work. He falls on the right side of the like Hassan Reddick, Isaiah Simmons, like spectrum to me. You know what I mean? Well, yeah, but think about Hassan Reddick. Yeah, it took time. It worked for him. Yeah, it took time. After four years. And they had to, and they just had to stop trying to stop trying to. to make him be something that he wasn't.

Yeah, I think that's probably reflective of the class because you're right. Like even Nick Benito's, I think he was what a second round pick. Like you usually don't draft a 6-4, 240-pound edge rusher with short arms, by the way. You don't draft them top five. But with this year's class, the way that the board falls, I like some other eddressers better than Arvel Reese.

We'll talk about some of them coming up here. But I do think like with the way the class is, you can overthink it with a player like him. He's been impactful in college and he's just, hey, he's a fun player. Now, where do you follow on Rubin Bain, the 22-year-old as a rookie who, you know, plays with violence is a little bit undersized, 6-2-263, and has those itty, bitty, teeny tiny carnatorous arms? I'm going to use the expression again. It's not a problem unless it's a problem.

Yeah, I know, though. It doesn't come up. It does not come up when you watch him. Yeah, but how many NFL caliber tackles is he going against? That, see, again, I mean, listen, he is so fun to watch. And he is, he plays with the violence that you want. But just to, just to contextualize how small his arms are. Yeah.

Okay. I've got the sample of elite edge guys that I have is, is the biggest sample of all the positions because of the chicanery of the pro bowl rosters where like linebackers go in as edges. So there are 57 guys here. And of the 57 guys who went on to make the all pro team or an initial pro bowl team, the guy with the smallest arms is, 31 and a half. That's Melvin Ingram.

Like, we had a big issue with Aidan Hutchinson's arms when he came out. And those were 32 and an eighth. That was the third smallest of any of them. Only one guy is under 32 inches. That's Melvin Ingram. Ruben Bain is under 31 inches. Yeah. He's 30 and 7.8s.

It's like his arms are really, really small. Yeah, I understand. That's why I go Carnotaurus, not to you wreck. I respect that. I understand the reservation. I love the Brandon Grahamcom that Fran has in the conference. that Fran has in the guide as well as Vinny Curry, I believe.

And I think that is like the type of player that Ruben Bain is. I, you know, listen, I didn't watch games and games of tape of him. So I can't sit here and say personally I'm convicted and like it's not a problem for him because it's not, it didn't come up in college. His arms are shorter. Like Brandon Graham, I just pulled it up. He was at 32 and a quarter inch arms at the combine. So even shorter the arms than Brandon Graham.

But still, when you watch him play, he has unusual traits and other facets of his game that I think can compensate for that. I mean, this is one where it's like, okay, in this draft class, maybe you pinch your nose, but I would take a guy we're going to talk about over him for sure. I agree. Yeah. Let's talk about him. Okay.

Let's get to the big deal presented by our friends at Wawa, and let's discuss the two edge players who have a real chance to be there for the Eagles at 23 and be a Howie Roseman type selection. and I do think, in general, if the Eagles are not going to take an offensive player in the first round, I would put like 95 of my turkeys on it being an edge player. And what, four on it being a safety? Yeah, and that would surprise me. It would be like Caleb Delums, yeah.

Yeah, or, you know, Peter Woods and you move them to the outside or something like that. Yeah. But so, and so that. is to say, Keldrick Falk and T.J. Parker, Keltrick Falk from Auburn, T.J. Parker from Clemson, Keljik Falk, Franz, top rated edge player. Yep. And 20th on the consensus big board. And it seems to have a chance to really be there. I'll let you go first because this is one where I just, I just don't get it. Yeah, I completely agree with you. I do, I do not understand why people are slow to come around on him as a top, top five, top ten,

pick in this year's draft. And I want to talk to you about the player first and then I want to tell you, I was Texan Fran this morning about a similar situation like from last year and if this could be playing out again. First, the player. He's 6-6-276 pounds. He's a Bruce Feldman's Freaks List alumni and he squats 700 pounds. He doesn't turn 21 until he's until September. Some people view him as an interior rusher. Fine. He's awesome. He's great. I think you'd be good at it. Like, he didn't have insane production in college, but like, Trayvon Walker. Seven Sacks is a true sophomore playing inside. Trayvon Walker was the number one pick in the draft a few years ago.

Like, it is, it is to me, like, he is, he, there's nothing. And again, the other thing I wanted to say, he's got great play personality. It seems like he's got great character from what said about him. Like, he's a young, explosive pass rusher. I don't care which position he ends up at. I think he is a top 10 pick. Yeah, this is a, he checks every box for all the things you said. He was also, he was a captain as a true junior.

I think at the very end of his sophomore season, they were like they were already moving in that direction. The physical tools are there. He's got long arms. He's big and strong. He didn't run the 40, so we don't have the testing results. Elite jumpers. Right. Explosive jumps.

As you said, turns 21 in September. This is a profile. that we're talking about like, okay, maybe in this draft you hold your nose and take Ruben Bain at, you know, 12 or whatever. This is a profile that is a top 15 pick every year. Yeah. If he is a defensive tackle. Like, okay.

Like that's still valuable. Wins with power. Holds up against the run. You know, is able to bend the edge when he's asked to, although he doesn't do it a ton. And I also think this is a player who would solve a lot of problems for the Eagles specifically. Yeah.

Because you drafts, have Keldrick Falk, guess what? You don't really necessarily have to resign Morrow Ojamel. You have your third down replacement as an interior rusher. Or Nolan Smith doesn't hold up on the edge, you have Keldrick Falk. This is a pick to me that like you want to, I think we overstate, you know, how he did it again? How does how he keep doing this? But this is one where if the Eagles sit at 23 and Keljik Falk falls in their lap, it is going to be October and it's going to be like, oh my god howie did it again yeah yeah no it's funny i i was texting fran earlier and i'm trying to the exact text but i'll just i'll just summarize it here i said if celtric falk falls to the eagles at

23 and the eagles take celtric falk at 23 then the eagles will just laugh at everybody else in the league and all of the all of the NFL fans will be sitting there going how did howie rosen pull this off like and i'm not saying listen this could be like a michael williams situation from last year where you know franzy evaluation i think like the the upside play where it feels like how is this guy going to fall that far into the draft? Maybe he won't. Maybe he will go top 15. And the consensus big board will catch up to where Fran has him.

But yeah, if he's there for the Eagles of 23, I mean, after watching him, like, I would, I would say if him and Sadeke are there, you take Celtric Falk. Yeah, you take Keltrick Falk there. Yeah. And listen, we're Fran pilt. There's no doubt about that. But just watch the. But not all the time. Just watch the guy.

A lot of the, I mean, there are a lot of evaluators that have him. high. Now, I think, like, you know, some of the guys that I made note of, like, who had him high today, Nate Tice and Mike Renner, they both have him listed at defensive tackle. So that might be part of some people's reservations, but I don't know. To me, he is going to be a productive pass rusher and then he has a very clean profile. I think it's, I think it's, yeah, it's a super clean profile. It's a great fit for the Eagles, I think. I think that's, I think this would be a, a home run for them. Now, how do you feel about T.J. Parker from Clemson? I like T.J. Parker from Clemson.

I have written here. 63. Yeah, so he's a little bit of a squatty guy. Like, he doesn't have, like, he doesn't have short arms or long arms. It's just kind of like, standard arm length. There's no red flags on this profile. But as a shorter guy with, like, standard arm length for the position, he's got that natural leverage.

People like to talk about. You're a little bit lower. Your pad levels lower. The thing I've loved about him, he's got really strong hands. Like, he's got pop in his hands where he, he's, you, he's got pop in his hands where he, he's just more powerful than you would expect based off the physical traits. The thing about T.J. Parker is that if you're drafting him at 23 overall, it's a little bit of like an admission that you don't find like high,

high level, high end prospects at that point in the draft at edge rusher because he does not have the upside of the other guys in this class to me. But you're not going to find like Will Anderson at number 23 most years. It's not a home run swing. It is like, I don't want to say take your medicine because that's a little bit too like it's poo-pooing the pick too much it's a single yeah it's a double it's like i know that this guy can be like a rock solid number two at dresser in a rotation he can play three downs and he still has like theoretical upside but it's not necessarily like he's not one of these guys where it's like oh man he's going to be an all pro one day he is like you're you know meat and potatoes at dresser in a rotation yeah i i had the same take you didn't is that i feel

like there's a, as far as draft prospects go, a relatively narrow band of outcomes for him. Yeah. I think he's a, I think he's a very good player. Yeah. And I think this is one where, unlike Kalkchalk,

this one would come down to, would you rather have a good player at a premium position or a potentially great player at a non-premian position? And that's, and that's the conversation that you would have in the draft room. I think T.J. Parker would be a fine pick at 23. Yes. Now,

we should mention Fran has Zion Young significantly lower than T.J. Parker, but a lot of the other, I think on the consensus boards, Zion Young is 38. And T.J. Parker, okay, so the consensus board still have them pretty far apart. But there were a few, I saw some evaluation. Yeah, I mean, you told me, you told me that right before the show. I had no idea. Because I watched Zion Young, and I expected him to be about where Fran had him. Yeah. I thought, okay, fine, day three guy. It's funny. So Parker and Young are 10 spots apart on the consensus big board. I think it was Dane Bruegler's top 100. They're two spots apart. Okay. There are some evaluators that have them as like essentially the same player.

If you don't know, is that. Some players. Yeah. Sorry. 66-262. So he is a bigger prospect. Yeah. You know,

most sacks you ever had in a season in four years was six and a half, which is not disqualifying, but it's a late breakout though. Late breakout. It's got long arms at 33 inches. But I was. When I saw where Fran had him, when I was watching him, I didn't see like the round projection. And I was like, oh, this guy's like pretty interesting on day three.

And then I saw where. he was actually projected. Oh, man. Like, yeah. That's significantly higher. I think he is like, you know, we have T.J. Parker at home as a prospect a little bit where it's like if you miss out

on T.J. Parker, because T.J. Parker goes in, you know, round one, like maybe, like toward the end of day two, you're like, yeah, sure. Well, the other player with round one consideration and likelihood, it sounds like, is a key mesador, Ruben Baines teammate from Miami. Yeah. You're going to, I know you hate. If you know anything about Akeemezdor, you know how I feel about him. 6.3-2-59.

Plays with violence. 12 and a half sacks last year. Really fun to watch. We'll be 25 as a rookie. Has a foot injury thing that some people think is a problem. And his arms are short below the line of everybody except for, you know, Melvin Ingram and Cameron Wake. That's a no for me. Yeah.

Where he's going to have to go. Yeah. I am not using a pick in the first three rounds on him. You know what I wrote down for him? He is who both thought Nate Borkature was. You got to get off the Borkature thing. Now, by the way, we got to talk about this. Both Nate Borkature.

Oh, no. I didn't think we were going back to Nate Borgature. You just told me I got to get off the name Borkature thing. I agree with you on Mezzedor, by the way. I think that he, my hang up with him is like... The thing you said about Borgatry yesterday. If he was younger and more productive, we'd be talking about him.

It's like a second round pick. Well, yeah, like, so would you. No, that's not true. Let's close the book on the Wawa, big deal. I could be younger and more productive and not be. So the Eagles brought in Borkature for a pre-draft visit. Yeah.

What do you put? They also brought in Ramello height, who we'll talk about. Both of those guys will be 25 years old as rookies. And I see what Harry Roseman is doing here. Okay. And what he is doing is the same thing the Eagles have done with the, offensive coordinator search. They're bringing these guys into the building because they want to add them to the coaching

staff. The marketplace of ideas. Yeah. They're like, this might be a Vic Fangio replacement in a few years. Two years down the road. Nate Porgantir's coaching up our tight ends. We're in business,

man. That's good. That's good. Yeah, Mezzador, my hang up with him is like, you can't be like, oh,

his play personality. He's just out there beating guys up. It's like, yeah, he's 25 years old. Like, that can't be your selling point. I don't think that was Borgutcher's selling point for the record, but with Mezador, I think a lot of the evaluation came down to like the physicality he plays with.

And it's like, yeah, I don't know how that translates when he's playing against grown men. Yeah, I think if I was doing the, you know, I used to do like a worst case scenario mock draft and a best case scenario mock draft for the Eagles. If I was doing a worst case scenario mock draft, it would be Mazzador at 23 overall. Yeah. Like realistic thing. Yeah. I agree. I think that would be not good.

All right. Time to take a break. We'll be back with much more on the other side. On the other side, EJ and I will tell you our favorite day two edge prospects for the Eagles. He's got someone he is very excited about. I don't know who it is yet, but I have a guess. All right, quick 60 second timeout as we have been breaking down prospects in the NFL draft, especially the options that make sense for the Eagles.

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Yeah, there's going to be some things you'll hear me say a lot. And I'm not going to apologize. Wait to get to the wide receivers. That's my, that's my bucket. Buckets. Um, I could see a path. It's a tough needle to thread.

Listen. Super chap from Jack Royer, who says little late, but he was loving the Joe Royer talk yesterday. The Cincinnati tight end. No relation as far as I know, but I'll still claim. Oh, yeah,

you got to claim them. That's my, that's my, that's my dad's thing. Anybody with the last name Smith, like, oh yeah, that's your cousin.

I don't think so Who's the worst Smith? The worst Smith? What about like the best Smith? I could probably do better with that. Sure, answer a different question. I mean, I don't know who the worst Smith. Probably somebody who's done something terrible.

Probably. I'm sure there are some out there. Oh, I bet. Jackson Smith and Jigba is the one my dad does like to point to is like, yeah, that could be your cousin. Okay, that's a good one. All right. We've built it up here.

You got someone who you are very excited about on day two. Who's your guest? Now, the Eagles have three picks on day two. Chance. One of these guys could be an edge. You know my guess? Yeah.

My guess is deny Dennis Sutton. You are right on the money. Deny Dennis Sutton. Everything about his profile I love. Honestly, I don't know why he's not talked about a little bit higher on this big board. 6-5-268 from Penn State. He is a 3-6. I had 6-5, maybe 6-6.

Yeah. He's a three cone superstar. You want me to do this now? Sub seven seconds. He's the, he's one of two guys who ran the three cone at the compound in this year. Which speaks to he knew he was going to do well. Yes. So this is from Franz Draft Guide, which you guys should all become a diehardt

until you get access to France draft guide. A list of edge rushers who ran the three cone in 6.9 seconds or quicker that weigh over 255 pounds. Joey Bosa, Max Crosby, Aidan Hutchinson, Trayvon Walker, Oda Faye Owe, Sam Hubbard, Jordan Willis, and Kyle Fitz. Kylie. Kylie Fitz, I apologize. It's okay.

It's good company. Good company. So, like, my pound-the-table thing. His relative athletic score is the seventh best of any edge taking the last 10 drafts, according to Fran. My pound-the-table thing for Deny Dennis Hutton here, especially for the Eagles. He feels so much like an Eagles prospect. He's a former five-star recruit from Delaware, played at Penn State.

His play personality is awesome. He's really nasty on the field, which is going to get Vic Fangio excited. His athletic testing to me is an important part of this too because it informs the upside that he has. You watch the player, the tape shows you like a high floor player. Like this guy is going to play in the league. He's going to fit in the league by what you see him do on the field. And then you see what he did in the athletic testing.

It's like, okay, this guy has another level to take still here. He's 22 years old, I believe, will be 22 as a rookie. He is, he's got eagles written all over him in a way that got me very excited. And came for a pre-draft visit, so we know that they're interested to some degree. What do you think I think of denied Dennis Sutton? You're going to bring up the spin move. You're going to go to that spin move. It's not going to work in the NFL.

No, I liked him a lot. I'm with you. Oh, I was really exciting. Eight and a half sacks each of the past two seasons. Yeah. I think the way that you just said it was really good context. Yeah. The way he plays gives you a floor and the athletic testing gives you a ceiling.

Yeah. I would be, I think this would be a totally fine second round pick. I think it would be, I think you would be very happy with him as your second round pick. He was one of the favorite guys I watched. I sent his, if you didn't take him, he would have been my guy. Yeah, I sent his a cut up of his all 22 that I found on social through the draft guide. Again, shout out to the draft guide.

I sent it to my buddies and I just said Eagle. Like this guy screams Eagles player here. Everything about the profile is like the boxes that Howard Roseman likes to check. Yeah, and it holds up well against the run, can stand the field on first and second. down. He's not, he's not like the most polished pass rusher. Yeah,

but I think there's more there. Yeah, he doesn't have like insane bend. If you're going to be nitpicky, like that's what you're going to say. It's like he doesn't run the hoop as well as some of the other guys in this class, but he's explosive and he's powerful. Like,

that's a great place to start. Sign me up. I love the guy. And he's got a cool name. I like him a lot. He's got a cool name. Deni. It's D-A-N-I, but pronounced deny.

I was hoping it was going to be denied Deney Sarton. Oh, like that would be one end, probably. Like a little leaning into like, Maybe we could get like a Danes Sutton jersey if he was drafted. Now you're talking. This guy was maybe my favorite player I watched. Okay. Because I felt like I found something.

I like him a lot. Felt like I found a diamond in the rough here. Now I'll give you my guy who's my other guy here. Can I guess? Sure. I think you're going to go Gay Backus. I liked Gay Backus. Same.

He is not my pick. Gabacus is his friend's Edge 9. He's 63260. from Illinois. He is much more, he is a power rusher. Yeah. There's not a lot of speed

or slipperiness to his game, but he's trying to run through you. Reminded me a lot of AJ Epinessa. I think he would be a fun player. I would probably not want a second round pick on him. I feel it feels like a third round value to me. Yeah.

He's another like take your medicine guy where it's like, you know, you know he's not going to be a number one edge rusher in your rotation, but he's going to play for you. Yeah. My guy is someone who I actually don't think

is a great fit for The Eagles. Okay. And this is more just, I really enjoyed watching him. And I feel like I believe in him. And that's R. Mason Thomas from Oklahoma. He was really fun to watch. Now, he is very small.

He is 6-2.5, 241, with short arms and small hands. The only other guy in this entire 57-player edge sample, who was both small and short like that. It was Hassan Reddick. Yes. And obviously he was not drafted as an edge rusher. So there are limitations here And that's a reason why he's not going to go

In the first round He's small and He only ran like a 4, 6, 7 So it's not like he's at elite athleticism Yeah But he's so slippery Yeah There was like a

He actually reminded me of Jalen Carter In the way that when Jalen Carter, like watching Jalen Carter as a prospect The way that he was able to Laterally move so quickly from from hole to hole. Like, it's really cool to watch. Like, it's almost like he's, you know,

he's like teleporting when he's pass rushing. It's very fun to watch. I like him a lot. Yeah. I don't think it's a great fit for the Eagles. I don't think that's the kind of player they need. Yeah. I think they need somebody with more heft.

Yeah. But I think he's going to be a fun player to follow in the league. Yeah, he is like the opposite end of the coin to some of these high, like he is the opposite of Gabe Accus. Like, he is the high variance. We want to try and find. a number one eddresher. Like, if you asked me, like, I think Armason Thomas could be,

it'd be, you know, very high-range outcome for him. But I think he could be, like, at the top of an Eddresher rotation in a few years. But he could also be, like, a completely unusable player in the sense that, yeah, there's not a lot of, there's nothing to fall back on with him. He's a designated pass-rushar prospect with really, really great traits. I thought he did have really good bend. Like, around the corner, like, he looks like, I mean, he looks,

I think Hassan Reddick is a good comp in, like, his up. side. That's what you wanted to do. Hassan Redd did test like an elite athlete. Yeah. And he, and the one thing about Hassan that I always like, I just from like having talked to a lot, I mean, I covered Hassan twice in his career and I talked to a lot of people about him over time.

He had way more power at that size than you would expect him to have. I don't know if Arnason Thomas really showed that when I watched, and from what I watch at the very least. Now shout out to watch. Shout out to Chisham. Our sicko friend who covers Oklahoma was texting texting yesterday.

He said couldn't believe that Jaron Kanek, of all people, came up on the show. But I asked him, like, who do you believe in? And he said, R Mason Thomas. Yeah, no. Yeah, convinced that he will make it happen in the league. Now, I would also tell you one of the great reasons to check out Fran's draft guide. Oh, the story. Yeah, I mean, he answers every question you have.

And I know you're wondering, R Mason Thomas, what is the R? R space Mason, what's it for? Well, Brian has the answer. His given name is R. Mason. It's not an abbreviation for anything. His mom's side of the family used a lot of the names that begin with the letter R. And she wanted to give a nod to that tradition while still doing things her own way. I really actually love this.

Yeah, but it's very cool. R. Mason Thomas is a great name. And, like, I think it informs a lot of the character, like, ringing endorsements of his character that you saw in France draft guide. Again, that's another great thing about the draft guide. His friend will compile quotes. where you'll kind of get to know the person. And it seems like he is, like, very widely admired for his personality. And yeah, it seems like, you know, his mom is very intentional with the name and probably

was very intentional raising him. All right. I don't know the guy, but it seems great. I mean, on Armis and Tom. I don't think it's a great fit for the Eagles, but I like to play a lot. It's a good, like, a playwright name, you know? Yeah, you need a period there. George R. Martin.

Two ours. George R.R. Martin. Why is that funny? That's not funny. George R. Mason is kind of funny. I mean, listen, it's a fine name. R. Mason Thomas, strong name. All right, there you do. There you go.

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Talking about edge players and it's time to bring in the great Fran Duffy are also the NFL draft analysts. Fran, how are you? Doing great guys. It's been a great listening to the show. I've got lots of thoughts.

I know we've got more players to talk about too. Well, let's get to it. Now, you're going to be in studio with us tomorrow. We've got the great event going on where everybody can watch you do some guys. Maybe some more news where some people outside the Philadelphia area can take part in something like that next week.

But for now, let's stay talking about these edge guys. What do you write down that you need to address from what we've already said? Well, you made the point about the decision for the Jetset 2 between Arvel Reese and David Bailey. And I shared that same concern throughout most of the pre-draft process. He was trying to, you know, basically like everyone penning in. Oh, yeah, Arval Reese number two. And it's like, all right, well, Aaron Glenn is, we know how Woody Johnson and how volatile that leadership can be. in New York.

They're in hot water. They need to show improvement right now. So are they really going to take a project, a huge projection there with R.L. Reese at number two, as opposed to taking David Bailey, even if you think that Reese has a slightly higher upside, Bailey is just ready to, like in terms of serving that role, he's ready to go. That's all he's done over the course of his college career. And so I do think it makes more sense.

And then in the last 48 hours, Dale Jeremiah from NFL Network and Peter Schrager from ESPN have both come out and have said, I think that it'll end up. being David Bailey at number two for the New York Jets. And so I do think there are some interesting ripple effects that happened from that point on in the rest of the top 10 as I've ripped up the first half of my mock draft in the last few hours to account for this. But it's a, yeah, it's honestly though,

this edge rush for group, it's a good group overall. It is a good group. And I also saw that Peter Schreger mock and my number one takeaway was, I imagine the same as yours, he didn't have Celtic Falk in the first round. What's going on? Honestly, man, it's one of the big mysteries for me right now in this class is the lack of love for the profile of Keltrick Falk.

And you said it. Like to me, in any year, like regardless of class strength, this is a profile that you bet on. And that's kind of one of my lines that I've been using and talking about Keldrick Falk because a lot of the, you know, some of the other markets that I've jumped on, you know, in Dallas, they're talking, you know, there are people that want Keldrick Falk. And then people are like, oh, absolutely not. To me, this is not even the same conversation as Shemar Stewart. How dare you? How dare you? Yeah, that's what I mean.

Well, people are talking about it the same way. Like, oh, this guy didn't produce. And to your point, yeah, he had two sacks last year. He had seven. He had seven. The year before as a 19-year-old in the SEC. Shamar Stewart didn't breathe on a quarterback for two years. So, yeah, to me, when I'm looking at Keldrick Falk, this is a player where you're just

checking boxes across the board. He's athletic for his size. He's got versatility, high character, clean medical, the position versatility, the ability, the ability to win for multiple techniques. He can win against the run. Yes, he's got to get a little bit better as a rusher, but he doesn't turn 21 until the fall. To me, I'm betting on that profile 99 times out of 100.

Couldn't agree more. Okay. And then where do you fall on on the day two guys? I agree with you have them ranked. You have Armation Thomas, like just a smidge above denied in a sudden. I am glad that you shared the nugget about his name. That is one of my favorite anecdotes from this class, Armason Thomas. and then his name origin story there.

But, you know, I liked an I Dennis Sutton. And so I agree with both of you guys there. I think that, you know, in talking with sources in the building there in Penn State, too, they've kind of raved about just kind of the, he's intrinsically motivated, right? Like, he's one of those guys that you kind of have to chase out of the weight room, you know, after a tough loss, like, you get back into the building and he's in there before anybody, like literally like that day and they're like, get out of the building, go recover. Like that kind, he's that kind of work ethic, high standards for himself.

So to me, like, this is a guy that I'm willing to bet on as well. And I know I'm a little bit higher on him than consensus. But to me, like the play personality with the physical traits from the athletic testing, the personality, like I'm willing to bet on Denin Suttton. All right. I asked you before so you could put some thought into it to identify some day three guys who you feel like are Eagles types. Guys who might appeal to Howie Roseman and the people in that building. Who did you come up with? Yeah.

And you mentioned that they had Romello Hyde, the Texas Tech Eddrushar in for a visit. And to me, like, I just, I don't see that fit, really. You know, look, obviously there's some level of interest. The Eagles, I think they're out of the business of like doing pure smoke screens. I think they're kind of out of that. That may have been something that they did years ago. But I wrote, I wrote, for Romolo Height, I wrote more explosive Kyron Johnson. Sure.

Yeah, right. I mean, that's kind of, and he's like, he's built almost like, actually, My comp for him was Josh Usher. So that's kind of like the body type that we're talking about. He's under 6 foot 3. He's under 240 pounds. He's got below average length. He has got some like springs in his legs.

Like he's got some explosiveness. But a non factor for the most part against the run. Like he'll try and use his length. But he's just not he's not like a high factor there. And again like a late breakout guy. He's been at four different schools if memory serves. Yes. Yeah.

I was going to ask you if like you think maybe the four different schools like they just like want to get to know the guy you know if that could be part of the reason to bring him in that's possible that's that's that is one of the objectives that are often with with situations like that is like we want to bring him in to see like as he our kind of guy yeah you know try and dig through that especially because when you're at four different schools the the scouting you know the the the the area scouts there are no reliable narrators no exactly right and so that's that's going to be a tough one so now schematically and from a profile standpoint, who are some players that stand out as potential day three options for the Eagles?

The first name that comes to mind is L.T. Overton from Alabama. The Eagles have drafted a lot of Alabama players in the recent past. And I think when you're looking at Overton, he could be another guy that I think fits the model. He's going to be a 21, he's 21 years old when he's drafted, only 21 years old, 21 years old when camp breaks, former big time recruit first at Texas A&M and we spent a couple years there and then bounced over to Alabama for the last two seasons. Now, he has has not been productive. He's always, he's a player that when you're watching him, he kind of leaves you wanting more where you're like, yeah, I don't know if the sum is greater than the, or the, what is it, the total is greater than the sum of the parts or whatever the thing is there. Like, you always think

like it's going to be a little bit better than what you're seeing. But at the end of the day, he's got some scheme versatility, right? Like, I think he's got position versatility, rather, where he can line up at a couple different spots. They lined him up often tight to the formation. So, you know, much like what we're talking about with Keldrick Falk, he's got some of that alignment versatility, which I think is important in this Vic Fangio scheme. I mentioned the youth. That's something that we've seen from how it was in the past. They will take swings on younger players in day three.

By the time you get to day three, most especially now, most of the 21-year-olds, 22-year-olds are soaked up. But the guys that do bleed through, we've seen that the Eagles will take stabs at those guys. And so when I look at Overton, I think schematically there's a fit there. I think that when you're looking at the profile, it makes some sense. He's a guy that kind of stands out, especially again, given the inroads at Alabama. I kind of liked watching. him, he was like, he was consistently the last guy off the ball.

Yes. Like time after time after time, which reminded me of Josh Schwett at training camp a couple years ago. But he's then like explosive off the ball. I liked watching him. And I think as we talked about the reasons that Kelchuk Falk would make sense for this roster construction, L.T. Overtton checks those same boxes where he's giving you some cover in multiple ways.

And as you said, going to the Alabama well is something that they're comfortable doing. if you told me that he was the you know the the the 53rd pick in the draft like that wouldn't shock me you know this is a guy really back in the summer early stages of the fall that he was viewed as a potential first round pick like he has been talked about like that in the zeit guys for the last calendar year but like i said the the lack of production you're always just kind of left wanting when you're watching him and everyone kind of had their their eyes focused on him here this year and he just did not really meet that standard so i think we're looking at overton there's a lot to like but also reasons why I could think that he could slip a bit,

especially in this edge rusher class, because it's one of the stronger groups in this class. You want to talk about a guy, you know, knowing your enemy, an edge rusher with the name L.T. Like, fantastic. I believe the given name is, I want to make sure I say this, right? Lebius. Yeah, given name is Leibius.

And his dad, it was actually, he was a former college offensive lineman. And he's the AD at Kennesaw State. Okay, that's fun. All right, who is the second player who you identified as a potential Eagles fit? Yeah, this is a guy that I saw up close at the Shrine Bowl from Duke, which we know that the Eagles have added

a number of Duke players over the last, over recent history. They have a good source in that building. Somewhere, yes, exactly right. Who knows? But I think when you're looking at Wesley Williams, the Redshirt Jr., again, another player that's got some position versatility,

where they like to kick him inside at times. So I think when you're looking at players that have fit this mold in the past, you look at Vic Fangio in his history, they've had success with players that have that alignment, versatility and flexibility to be able to play a number, wear a number of different hats for the defensive front. He's another one where I just liked the play personality. I enjoyed watching him on film.

He's got heavy hands. He can reset the line of scrimmage. He can do things well in the run game. High effort in the pass rush game. He's not going to blow you away with like, his first step. And that's not necessarily his bag. But I will say, you know, just going down to the Shrine Bowl and, you know, the access we get down there, like down on the sidelines. First one, you know, first one on the field, last one off the field type of that type of thing,

extremely engaged with the coaches, the NFL coaching that he got down there at that event. And so watching them on tape, honestly, there was another rusher, Anthony Vincent or Vincent, Anthony, Vincent Anthony, Vincent Anthony, yeah, Vincent Anthony from Gary Vince. What's said it's like right up your alley? but he is a he's another duke edge rusher in this class and he went to the senior ball williams at the shrine ball i'll take williams every day you know anthony kind of reminded me of like alex macalister when uh the eagles drafted him back in yeah 11 and he was kind of you know really wiry and long-limbed and i just you know just not not my bag uh but with williams i

think when you're looking at his uh that that alignment versatility and the play personality uh i think that would play well here in philly all right i think that's a good one that's a good one to keep in mind I think. All right. Do you have a little bit more time, Fran? Can you stay with just through the break? Yeah, let's do it. We'll go to break and come back with EJ and I.

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I do. I think for the visual listeners, for the people watching on YouTube, I think what's important here is as E.J. says his person, pay attention to Friends face because that will, he's very expressive. He is very expressive. I agree with that. I'm not certain that this guy will be there on day three, but I'm going to cheat a little bit. I'm saying like a fourth or fifth round pick.

Okay. on J-Shon Barham from Michigan. You like him? I like Jason Barham a little bit. Again, this might be me cheating a little bit, but I think early day three, he might make it there. I think so. He is the other edge rusher from Michigan

where Garrick Moore is expected to go higher. And I actually, he's like we have Gaye-Bakus at home to me a little bit. He's smaller than Gay-Bacus. He's 6'3, 240 pounds, and he's got shorter arms. But the thing that I liked about him... We got long arms. Oh. He's got 34 and an eighth-inch arms.

Really? I don't know why I wrote down shirt rooms. I apologize. I have my spreadsheet here. The thing that I liked about J. Sean Barham, the reason why I'm like, okay, like I could see the egos being in on him is he kind of does remind me of Nolan Smith just in that he's like a battering ram. Like that he just flies around. He's just like a high energy player. So yeah, I think Vic Fangio would be in on Jasham Barham. And yeah, I think he could make sense as a rotational piece, especially if you are, you're trying to figure out what you're going to do long term with Nolan Smith. Now, Fran, am I right? He was playing sort of a tweener role until this year, when he, he got to finally just sort of settle in on the edge? He was a, I mean, he was a true linebacker for his first three years and changed,

like started the season as a true linebacker. And then they moved him to the edge full time. It was like late September. It was like the third game of the season. So I'm sure they toyed with it throughout the course of the summer and then just decided to make the move just to get Best 11 on the field. So it is, it'll be an adjustment for him. You know, when I watched him over the summer off the 2024 tape, I thought, oh, you know,

I wonder if he is better served to be like an edge convert moving into the NFL. so it was good to be able to see him go through it. But he's definitely going to be a bit of a developmental player. Wasn't at the Senior Bowl, wasn't at the Shrine Bowl, was at the Combine. But this guy who's played a decent amount of football, it's just, again, kind of adjusting to a new position. I like him. Yeah, he's a football player to watch. Yeah.

And he doesn't feel, as opposed to some of the other edge guys who, like, I like watching, like, the speed guys. Like, they got a nice little dip, but, you know, they're really never going to get on the field on first and second down. I think Barham could stay on the field. Yeah, he's got that No one Smith trait where it's like he might be small, but he's, you know, his motor and his physicality mean that he still might be viable on early downs. Fran, what did this guy is probably also a third round guy, but what did you think of Malachi Lawrence? Well, there's been some buzz that he could go even earlier than that. Really?

Just because of how he tested. Yeah. Tested crazy. He's 41 on the consensus big board. Is he really? Yeah, because I did the same thing you did. I was like him, yeah. Yeah, and you see the explosiveness.

I feel like you see it not when he's coming off the ball, but rather when he is closing in on a ball carrier. I completely agree with that. And it's fun. It's like he's then enveloping those people. And it's like those are cool traits. But yeah, I don't know. I don't think the profile is worth a second or third round pick for me.

I mean, the thing is too is that he is one of the more skilled rushers in this class. So if you're going to say, okay, well, he's a really, he's really good with his hands. Like if you just go and you just watch like all of his, you know, pressures, all of his sacks, you know, whatever you want to watch and say like, all right, like, how does he win? It's an impressive wide array of moves.

Like, he's got a number of ways that he can win at the top of the rush. Now, that said, I do think he's there, there's a little bit of like one trick ponyish to him where it's like, while he's got a lot of moves, it's mostly like high side, like outside rush moves. He's not necessarily always winning to the inside.

The run game, just okay right so i'm like i've gone back and forth because i i really want to like the player because i said i really like skilled rushers um and the fact that he blew the doors off the testing like that that was not expected i did not expect him to test the way that he did uh i have not like pushed him way up my rankings since then just because i i agree with you that i don't necessarily always see that athleticism pop off the ball i do see it when he closes but not necessarily early in the down and so uh i do think that it's a little bit of an upside swing he's probably going to go earlier than I personally would feel comfortable with. Like the Duke pairing,

there's another UCF pass rusher and Nigel Lee Kelly, who was like a five star, four, five star recruit coming out of high school, went to Miami, then transferred to UCF. So those guys played opposite each other. And Nigelie Kelly is like, you know, 6-5, 245, long arms, like really looks the part. And I didn't think it was close. Like Malchai Lawrence, much, much better player. You know, and it was more productive this year. But I think when you're that, honestly, I thought you were going to say you liked Nigelie Kelly because of your traits, your traits fetch. To me, when I was looking at Lawrence, I really like the player. I've always felt, you know, like third round, something like that.

But now you're hearing like, oh, he could go in the end of the first round. And certainly in the second round. So probably a little rich for me. I will give you two guys who are a little bit interesting to me. But first I want to ask you about Cassius Howell, who I think there's some people with Chad who like, you are much lower on him than consensus. he's your edge 16. You have that nice little dip move.

Like he can turn the edge. But I don't know if he can stay on the field on first and second down. What's your book on Cassius Howell? Yeah, I don't know that he's going to be impactful enough against the run to be a three-down presence. And so that's going to be a concern for me. And then at his size, you know, and E.J. said it a couple times. Like the lack of length, it's not a problem until it's a problem.

To me, when I watched Howell over the summer and then again this fall, it was a problem for him, whether it was getting off blocks in the run game or being able to win consistently low side as a rusher. And so to me, if I'm looking, I'm like, all right, it's kind of like the tight end conversation we're having yesterday. Like, oh, the guys that can serve as blockers, if they can't, then what does that mean? If I'm looking at Cassius Howl and I'm like, all right, well, he's going to be a situational pass rusher, right? You get into Ar Mason Thomas. So I think that's probably the book on him too, right? He's not going to be a pure three-down player, but I do think he could be a terror on rush downs.

That's fine. That's valuable. I don't look at Howell as having that same level of juice as an athlete. I think he's a fine athlete, but at that size, given his skill set and his likely role, I kind of need him to be like a good athlete. I need him to be a guy that can threaten off the edge and really give you some juice there. And I just don't see that. I do think that he's got some skill.

I think there are some nice reps there where he shows the ability to win at the top of the rush. But going up against NFL tackles on a consistent basis, I don't know that he's going to be able to do that. And so, you know, this is a guy that began his career at Bowling Green. And, you know, he had a one season of real, real production there at BGSU, transferred to Texas A&M, came off the bench in 2024 behind a bunch of NFL players along the defensive line, but didn't really sniff the lineup too much. And then, you know, took over this year and was very productive in the SEC. But I just worry about the long-term viability of a guy with that skill set.

All right. I'll give you my two, we're talking like six, seventh round guys. I'll give you the speed guy. and then the big honking guy. The speed guy, I kind of like Traymore of the speed guys from Texas. And I know. Get there.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think he's just a little bit of enough juice. Now, I also don't think that I would use a pick on a player like that. I feel like the Kairn Johnson experience has kind of influenced that for me.

I think if an edge guy is going to be that small and he's going to be worthwhile, he's going to go in the first three rounds. He's going to have those like explosive tools. I think if you're drafting an edge, on day three. You're probably looking more for someone who's just going to fill out a room and can get you through a game on first and second down. And in that case, this guy, I mean, he's got the tools are not impressive. He was got one year as a starter. But I thought that Max Llewellyn

is like against type for me. I think he could stay on the field. Yeah, it is against type for you. I'm very surprised that. I know. I surprised myself. I got trust in time. I shouldn't mean you said that was very funny. He's like, whoa. Yeah. Yeah, I just, I couldn't get there with Llewellyn. You know, I think that to me, like, yeah, there are some effort plays on tape and there are some flashes where I'm like, oh, okay, I can kind of see it. Maybe he's like a fourth or fifth guy to fill out the room, like you said.

But I did prefer Trey Moore to his skill set. Just the fact that, like, he couldn't crack the lineup until this past year. Yeah, it's not great. With some of his limitations, that was just a tough profile for me to bet on. Yeah, with Trey Moore, it really concerned me. Like, he was very productive at UTSA

and struggled to be even remotely close to that production level. at Texas. Like, only gonna get harder for you. Yeah, I don't know. And this goes to,

you know, this goes to the Eagles draft philosophy on late day three. They're drafting guys who they think can turn into starters eventually. So I honestly, I don't think either of those guys makes a lot of sense

for the Eagles late in the draft. Maybe you talk yourself into Traymore having upside, but yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm with you. It's tough to draft it at an edge that late. All right.

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I am struggling to cope and just want to enjoy the show again. And then he adds another super chat. Can you please give Lola Mae Calderon a shout out? She was my everything 1011, 2014 to 4-3-2020. Love you guys. And you can see that the super chat numbers are related to the birthday there. I'm sorry to hear that, Jake. I, you know, I think about this a lot with my dogs. You know, I've got an older dog at this point. And it's like they go through you with so many different phases of life. I'm going to get choked up talking about this. That like they do become, I mean, it's like, it's almost an understanding that they become like your family members. You know, they become. Of course. So much, you just, yeah, I just, you just love them a lot. That's what I would say.

So I'm sorry, Jake. Very sorry. Yeah. You know, EJ said it better than I could. Yeah, it's tough. You've become very, very attached. And 12 years, I'm sure, I'm sure Lola is a great life. You got to, you know, that's a tough loss.

I'm really sorry to hear that. Shout out to Lola and shout out to Jake. Shout out to Lola. Yeah. member of the family come on they're like the constant in your life you know

and the most they are like you're grounding force a lot of times so very sorry Jay mm-hmm I'm waiting like 20 seconds but

go ahead Fran our cat is named Lola so oh L Olla Lola Lola Lola Lola yes I mean

come on there yeah waiting like six seconds now. Uh, did you end up watching a Nadame Tucker? I will tell you the answer to that, Fran.

In. Lola time. Nice. And the answer to your question, Fran, is no. Should I? No, you don't need to. Uh, so the name

26 years old. He reports NFL training camp. Bo ain't watching that guy. No, well, so here's the funny backstory here, okay? So it was like mid-October, you know, it was right around the time when you're starting to get, all right, like, senior bowl invites are going to be like starting to go out soon, All-Star game invites starting to go out soon. And I had a scout message me from the Midwest and say, hey, have you watched the Western

Michigan pass rusher yet? And I was like, no, he had been really productive over the first few weeks. So before I watch a player, I'll do the bio first, right? Like, so, you know, get all the background. So I go through and just really fast. I'm like, all right, he transferred in Houston. You told me about this guy. Yeah, right, what had happened?

I'm like, oh, okay, so he spent two years of Juko, 2020, 2021, and then he spent three seasons at Houston where he amassed 10 tackles, one and a half TFLs and no sacks in three years. And I'm like, oh, okay. And he turns 26 before the draft. I'm like, oh, all right, he better be Superman. Like, if he's going to go on day two, like the tape better be like, unbelievable. And the tape was

okay. He's Superman, but the only power he has is he can see through people's clothes, so it doesn't help him with the field very much. Well, I'm like watching and I'm like, all right, like the tape is fine, and then he goes to the Senior Bowl and he comes in really small across the board, like short arms.

Why did he go to the Senior Bowl? Because he's a senior. All right. Hold on a sudden. You're a citizen. Yes. The Senior Citizen Bowl. So like the Dame Tucker, Yeah, as soon as I saw the profile, I was like, oh, this is going to be, Beau can't wait to sink his teeth into this one. I mean, this guy was almost born in the 1990s.

Hashtag older than E.J. But say, like, it's usually a joke. This guy is almost my age. But yeah, I mean, just that's a, that's a tough, tough profile. Now, he led the country in sacks this past year. He had 14 and a half sacks and all that. Like, you know, so he goes from zero production to one year, great production. but yes, exactly.

Okay. Last thing, just to circle back on a conversation from 50 minutes ago, how would you feel about T.J. Parker at 23? Oh, I was going to ask, I was going to do this. Okay, let me do this. Let me do this. Would you rather have T.J. Parker in round one, deny Dennis Sutton in round two. Okay, this is good.

Or I'm going to go with all my guys, J. Sean Barham in round four. I would go, I think I would go deny Dennis Sutton in round two. I like TJ Parker. I will say, guys, I alluded to the fact I'm doing my mock draft right now. And I think I'm at pick 22. I'm at the pick before the Eagles. Oh, the board has been like decimated. This is like a bad.

This is a rough scenario thing. Now, there are plenty of offensive linemen available. So I think like, all right, like, you know, it'll be an offensive lineman almost surely as I'm looking through this. But yeah, it's a lot of the players that we've kind of picked for the, you know, like Helderick Falk's not there. Kenyon's the Eaks not there. Concepcion's not there.

Yeah, it's been a little bit of tough sledding for the Eagles and the picks leading up. So who's on the board? I would say, I want to make a pick? I feel like this is good for context. Yeah, so like I said, I'm in the middle of the chart. Let's reset this. Yeah, yeah, we're going to, let's clip farm. Let's clip farm as a kid's say.

Here we go. So three, two. All right, Fran, you are working on your mock draft that's going to appear on all p.hly.com. And you have made it to the Eagles pick at 23. Who's available? Yeah. So here's who is not. available really quickly. So Vega Yawane, the guard from Penn State, he just went off the board.

Dylan Thineman, he is off the board. Casey Concepcion, Kenyon, Kenyon Sadiq, T.J. Parker, Peter Woods is off the board. Keldrick Falk off the board. All the top three receivers are off the board. So it's really, it's good. It's heavy offensive linemen. So I'm looking at, all right, Kaden Proctor from Alabama is there. Monroe Freeling from Georgia is there. Maxi, Hanachor, and Caleb Lomu are all there. So four of the top seven offensive tackles are still on the board here in this universe, which, you know, if you're an Eagles fan and you want an offensive lineman, this is a good scenario. If you want something other than an offensive lineman, you're hoping to wait, there's tough luck for you. But that's kind of what you're looking at here.

Aviontairel, if you want a non-offensive lineman, he is still available. Emmanuel McNeil Warren, the safety from Toledo is still on the board. Outside of that, I don't think you're really, you're really leaning in any of these other directions. Okay, and so which Offensive lineman would you go with then? Well, like I said, I still have to pick for the Chargers. So we'll see if they end up taking one of these guys. But because, again, like, the way I do about draft personally is I do not like, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to pen this guy.

It's one thing to time. You got to do one at a time. Absolutely. Exactly. Some people don't do it that way. I mean, I'll just be. So probably Proctor. You know, I just think that that's probably the upside swing.

You know, I know, I know we'll do an offensive lineman episode at some point. But I will. You know, I think when you're. looking at Freeling I think he makes sense he's young only a one-year starter developmental tight I think when you look at Ihanature as we've talked about really throughout the course of the process I think he checks a lot of boxes as well yeah they're they'll have their pick if they want an offense tackle they they'll have it's good options there I'm probably going Freeling a little worried

about Proctor only being or predicting what the Eagles would do right yes you would do both I think the Eagles might go Proctor I'll go freely okay well to find out the actually until you have to check out Franz mock draft on all p. hl y.com close uh last one for you on the board let's say

those offensive linemen are off the board tj parker or kenyon sedik sadiq you would rather have the potentially elite player at a non-premian position than the good player at a premium position solid player yeah because i like parker i think he's a solid player but i to me like i think sidique uh can be both a solid player while all

also has the potential to be like a game breaker as well. Okay. And going through this exercise, you know, one of the things I did last week, I started reaching out to like, you know, media types at all the different markets, just kind of like, all right,

like what are we thinking here of some of the names and some of the needs? I think that there are a lot of spots in the buildup to the Eagles where Sadiq, like, could sneakily fall in there. I think it probably starts with the Ravens at 14. Yep. where it's like, as early as that. And then, but with like Keldrick Falk,

and again, I'm thinking like non, you know, non-offensive linemen, Falk, I think there are a couple spots, you know, like Carolina, Detroit, I think makes some sense. Tampa. But yeah, there's a chance that Falk is there, which it'll be an interesting discussion.

I just thought like, man, if Detroit got Keltrick Falk, like the Eagles would be in some trouble. I mean, it's good player. At most. It's some trouble. Yeah, I mean, it's not. I didn't know what to say.

It's like when E.J. asked me yesterday before the show. What's his name? I mean, it's a good addresser group. That's all. The lines. The freaking Giants defensive tackle? Dexter Lawrence. Dexter Lawrence.

Oh, no. Is that good or bad for the Eagles? Like, probably good. I mean, the team, that's good for them. You know, there's an upshot is that he's going to get traded. He's going to sign somewhere. He's going to sign a big deal that might inferred. influence the Jalen Carter market.

So what? They're going to pay Jalen car a lot of money. No matter what. It's my job to look at NFL news and think, how does this affect the Eagles? That's what I do with everything. Okay. I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't do that. Uh-oh.

All of a sudden, I'm out on Keldig Falk. After really loving him throughout the whole process, now the idea that him going to the Lions would ruin the Eagles franchise is too much for me to take. Really, it's in trouble now. A good addresser group for Detroit to have. All right. Thank you, Fran.

We will see you in studio tomorrow. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, guys. All right, and that will do it for this episode of the PHOI Eagles podcast. Thank you, Lindsay. Thank you, Fran. Thank you, everybody in the chat. Shout out to Lola one more time. Shout out, Lola.

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