PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Eagles Draft: Duck, Duck, Juice! Howie Roseman Will Draft THIS POSITION Early | PHLY Eagles Podcast

Episode Date: April 20, 2026

Howie Roseman’s M.O. as Eagles GM is to use premium picks on premium positions, but Jihaad Campbell’s selection last year changed that trend after years of Quinyon Mitchell, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Nolan Smith and, of course, Jalen Reagor. Brandon Lee Gowton is in studio to join EJ Smith and Bo Wulf for the longest-running Eagles draft game in podcasting. It’s Duck, Duck, Juice day! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello everybody and welcome to the PHY Eagles podcast on a Monday afternoon. Bo Wolf, E.J. Smith and the great Brandon Lee Gowton. We are live from the Expedity Studio and we are presented by the Fanatics app and Ashley. We got a lot to get to BLG in studio. Good to see you, my friend. Thank you for joining us. Great to see you guys as well. And if you want to see a little bit more of BLG and hear a little bit more of him, don't forget.

Thursday night, round one. of the NFL draft, we will be live at the Chickies and Peets in Marlton, New Jersey, with BLG and EJ and the great friend Duffy. It's going to be a lot of fun. Don't miss it. Starting at 7 p.m. We'll go a little bit before the start of the draft and take you through the end of round one.

And of course, we are also live Friday night and all day Saturday as well. Big day, big week. Absolutely. A lot to get to on the show. And you can see the show schedule there, 2 o'clock, Tuesday and Wednesday. 7.30 Thursday, 6.30 Friday, noon on Saturday. We've got the longest running draft game in Eagles podcast history. Duck, duck juice coming up later today. Tomorrow, we've got the All You No Draft with Fran. On Wednesday, we've got our final seven round mocks and turquise of the

draft kingdom. Boy, what a week it's going to be. But before we get to all of that, let's start with the Eagles news from this morning, all of the insiders. They're scheduled Monday morning tweets about A.J. Brown and the likelihood that he may end up in New England after June 1st, E.J., what do you make of it?

Yeah, I don't know if there's anything new to really make anything of. I can appreciate that some people need to keep hearing it. You know, the waves washing over the stone where every time that this comes out, it makes it a little bit more real for the people who didn't want this to be the outcome,

but it does seem increasingly and increasingly and increasingly more likely that A.J. Brown will be traded to the New England Patriots after June 1st. When we were at owners meetings, it definitely seemed to be the sentiment across the league is that this was the expectation. So, yeah, when I saw the story, I read through it, like there isn't a lot new there. But what I would say is that like the report that this might be a 2028 first round pick that the Eagles might be getting back for AJ. That to me was noteworthy.

But other than that, again, I think the Eagles, have already been planning for life after AJ Brown and the expectation for a while has been that this trade will happen after June 1. BLG, you, I believe famously gave it a 0% chance that AJ Brown was going to be back this season. Do you feel like you can already

strut and pat yourself up on the back on that one? Not from the standpoint that I wanted to be right about that. But I just felt like based on everything I'd heard, you know, we had reporting on Bleeding Green Nation from Joe Santo Likido shortly after the season ended that AJ requested

to trade multiple times last year as early as after week three when the Eagles were three and oh and coming off of a Super Bowl win. And we all saw it. That was that was the part to me, regardless of any reporting, like we lived through last year and we saw how uninvested he was and emotionally checked out. And I don't think the Eagles really kind of want to go through that again this year. I don't think AJ wants to go through that. I think it's very unfortunate. We've come to this point, but that was always the reality staring us in the face. You know the one thing, really quick, sorry, the one thing that when I was driving in, I kept going back to is I just wish we could hear from AJ, you know, it's been a long time since we've heard from AJ. And I think that

some of that is by design, you know, you think about how the Dexter Lawrence thing unfolded. Like, these things can spill into the public eye more than the AJ Brown and Eagle situation has, but I do like, you know, this offseason, when he has events, I will be there, you know, because I want to hear, I want to hear from him. I want to hear where his head is at because I think a lot of Eagles fans are attributing things to him that may or may not be true. And I do think there has been sort of a gag order on him if you believe

that they are working in tandem to get this deal done so as not to tank the trade value, all of that stuff. I think part of the deal for them acquiescing to the request is you have to now do your part to help us maintain as much leverage as we need. Yeah, I think that's completely, that's what I was alluding to.

He's like, yeah, if he he could be making this public, but I think he realizes that that doesn't help his actual goal of getting to New England. What do you guys make of the language in the reporting of like, well, you know, these two sides haven't talked in a very long time. But the expectation is that they will pick up talks on June 1st. In terms of the Eagles and Patriots. Yeah. I mean, I think that's kind of like, oh, we totally don't have a deal worked out already

where it seems a lot of people around the league seem to have a sense that that could be the case. Maybe not what the league wants optically to be out there. But, yeah, I mean, I do think it's going to happen. So in a league where Dexter Lawrence goes for the number 10 overall pick, which we can discuss and should in a few minutes, at this point, what do you think would constitute a good return for A.J. Brown? You want to go?

Yeah, so to me, the Dexter Lawrence trade isn't a great benchmark because this year's draft, I think, is informative on why they got the number 10 overall pick for Dexter Lawrence. I think a future first plus is what the Eagles will want to get. I think it's probably what they should expect to get, whether it's 27. A 28 first to me feels like you want more than that. But again, the Eagles value those picks more highly. So I think it's got to be a one.

I mean, the Jalen Wattle trade laid out the compensation, a comparable situation. I think it's probably fair. I was skeptical at the time of the Jalen Waddle trade that A.J. would be worth less than the Jalen Waddle was on the trade market, but I've kind of come around on that a little bit, I would say. So I'd say the Waddle trade is what you're hoping to get. What about you? I think it has to be a one involved. You've talked about this where you've said in part just because of like Howie-R-Rosman's image, right? Or just like, you know, his reputation, he's not like he's not going to just get taken advantage of. And I think it's kind of been a tough

situation for him where, you know, AJ has clearly won it out. So he's trying to thread the needle of like, you know, maintaining leverage and trying to get the right value for him and not just shipping him off or nothing, but knowing that it's not really realistic, you can just bring him back. So it's been a tough spot for him. But I do think a first has to be in there. And like you said, EJ, I agree. I think that's the future pick thing has been a big part of this to me. Yeah. Where like, look, this year, I mean, you're getting that 2026 third round pick, which I think is like 60 overall first on Redding, which was two years ago. And I think that's a big part of it.

I think that it is okay for how he to get less now or in June than his original asking price because there are different prices for taking on the full cost of trading him before June 1st as opposed to trading him after and getting to spread out the dead cap. That's understandable. And I would imagine that he has different asking prices for those two things. I do think, I think he's going to want a one plus. Yeah. And so I don't know if that is, maybe it's a 28 first and a 27 third.

Yeah. Something like that. Is that enough? I feel like. You're that if I were the Eagles. Yeah. I think he's going to want the 27 first. I think, I agree.

I think you could probably, I'd feel good about a 27 first if I were Howie. I'd feel as good about a 28 first and then a day two pick on in 27. And listen, part of the reason that I think there probably is some understanding generally of what the deal is going to be is because I think it's going to help inform how he wants it to be able to know what he can deal from this weekend. Yeah, right?

Like if he's expecting this to be a 27 first or a 28 first, that changes which picks he might be willing to trade this weekend to move up. Yeah, that's an excellent point. And yeah, I don't think like the Dexter Lawrence thing, like if you told me like the Eagles were going to trade like, you know,

AJ for like the 14th pick in the draft this year, I probably wouldn't feel great about that. You know, based off who's going to be there at 14th? Okay. What did you make of the Dexter Lawrence trade from an Eagles perspective, how it changes the Giants? Annoyed from the, like, what are the Bengals doing? Like, I don't think, I mean, just all the talk, even leading up to that trade from the Giants beat reporter core was kind of like, yeah, I don't know what his value is really going to be. And even the reporting after was like people were shocked that they were able to get that much so annoying, I think, from that perspective. But I do think that probably speaks to how picks or maybe value. Yeah, I think that's a real reflection on the draft itself. When I first saw it, I'm like, that is way too much to pay for a player who is going to be 28, 29, and a team that is generally considered to be super cheap, like to give up the cost certainty of a locked in number 10 overall pick for a guy who's going to require an extension.

But then they didn't pay him too much extra. There was only one year extension. And he is an awesome player. Sure, sure. And really a unique player. He's the only guy who can play the nose and get a. after the quarterback the way that he does. I do think it also makes the Giants worse.

And if I'm an Eagles fan, I am not really particularly concerned about, you know, what do they, Jeremiah Love, Caleb Downs, that's going to change the science. I'm not. I was going to say one of the ripple effects is that does it allow the Giants to prioritize getting Jeremiah Love more than they would have when they didn't have another premium pick to fall back on and say like, okay, we can get, you know, a player at a premium position at 10. we can try and get Jeremiah Love, who was a true difference maker at the top of the draft. It might be a ripple effect.

They might have done it anyway. And again, I don't know if you're an Eagles fan, are you worried about them drafting Jeremiah Love? You know, like, it's a bad use of resources at the end of the day. I think it'd be annoying in the short term. Sure. I think if you look back at like, it's probably not the best long term decision for that. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's not really unlike when they drafted Sequin. Right. Right. Yeah, which is like, it's annoying because he's going to like, you know, do really exceptional things against your team every once in a while. they will probably lose more games than that. And I do like the idea of Joe Shane

having let Sequin and Xavier McKinney go just sitting in the draft room with no power as they draft a running back in the safety. That would be funny. It would be great. I mean, talk about getting embarrassed in front of everybody else. It's very funny.

A super chat that allows us to reset here. Steve Clef commenting. I had to say it's great to have BLG here. Miss your regular pod which was tied for Best Eagles pot. Okay.

I mean, tied with what? I would hope that he's talked about our pod. It's ambiguous. It's open end. So Steve has been banned. See you later, Steve.

But, BLG, the purveyor of bleeding grain nation. Long time covering the team. As a fan as well, great to have you here. You've been here before. Glad to be here.

I have a confession. Yeah. Whoa. I had that chair when I came in. And I was like, this is a low chair. Oh, is it the sinker? Okay. And I really is a low chair.

And you try to raise it up? No. Now I keep thinking, too. I look incredibly short. Bottom right. Bottom right. Take the weight off. No,

no, no, I think, I think really more. I'm very technically challenged. This is our great life. It's really more. So my, underneath the seat itself.

Wow. Okay. I knew that he'd be fine in this chair because he's so tall. Like, you know, yeah, but he didn't see.

It kind of looks comical me now that I'm... This was bad hosting on my part, not podcast hosting, but like just being a host in this space. Okay. And it does really think. Yeah. There you go. Now?

Now. Now this is honestly more true to size right here. Dinkleberg also has a chat. I can't wait to watch this team's awful vibes trot out onto the field in a potential disaster season while drinking the copium of 2028 draft capital from an AJ Brown trade. With that said, go birds. I appreciate that There is a

There is a world In which this Eagle season Very early on Starts to feel like the current Sixers season Where it's like Oh man Or the Phillies where it's like Okay

We had some bad vibes The off season came We made some tweaks We're back And the bad vibes are still here I I didn't think this is where we were going. It's the week of the draft.

It's supposed to be energy. You're right. You know, youth and talent into the team. Maybe that'll fix it. Well, to kind of bridge those two points, I think the Eagles might be, this is where my kind of general, like state of the Eagles in my mind,

where they're at is where I have a lot of optimism about them in the long term, just because of the sustained success we've seen and the confidence I have in Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman to if things go wrong in the short term, ultimately write that ship. Yeah. But about that short term, yeah, I'm feeling a little uneasy about that coming off of last

year. But that's why the draft, to your point, again, like represents hope for not just the season, but also multiple years down the line. And the players themselves, that's the best part of the draft, has seen all these young guys. Yeah, they're live, all of their lives are going to change. Fantastic. Yeah, absolutely. Give me all, give me all the phone calls and the tiers with the family.

That's good stuff. The Eagles put out a bunch of, like, the calls from the players on the team. It is like, it's special to watch those back, like knowing the people now. So yeah, no, I think it's a fun weekend. And, you know, I hope that they, I hope our viewers spend it with us because we've got to have some great coverage. E.J. Super Chat. Joe Rockhead said, what is your take on the rumors of Jalen Hertz practicing a temple with Scott Leffler? I don't think they're even know if this is true.

It's definitely true. There were pictures of it. On his account. He went out there. I'm glad that you asked about this, though, Joe Rockhead, because I do find this very fascinating. As someone who spends more time than I'd like to admit trying to figure out like what Jalen hurts, what's in Jalen Hertz's head. Yeah. Like this was, I mean, I was an interesting one.

I spent a lot of time speculating about this this weekend. And where did you come to? In some texts and some group chats like, oh, what could it mean? What could it mean? I mean, listen, everything with Jalen is intentional. Everything with Jalen has, you know, an underlying purpose or an underlying meaning. I think that this could have been a response to the uncoachable claims that came out a month ago. Oh, okay.

You know, a good relationship with somebody that was on last year's coaching staff. And, you know, I don't do the source guessing game. And he's not throwing the staff under the class. I don't do the source guessing game because I think that that can, you know, go down some, some rabbit holes that you don't want to go down. But now we know that Scott Leffler probably didn't talk for that story. Well, we don't know that. I mean, now we know that he didn't talk terribly about Jalen. I guess you say.

We don't know that. Yeah. But if he was really, you know, killing. No, no. Okay. I mean, I will concede that. But they clearly have a good enough relationship now where they're working out together in the Oskys. I read that as they're close enough for him to do a favor for Scott Leffler.

As he looks for a new job to have him in his instant post. I like that. He's doing him a solid. That's how I read that. You don't think that it had anything to do with the stuff that was in the- It could have. Dual meeting. Dual purpose?

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, obviously he includes that one little shot in the scroll. for a reason. Now, my next question is, why is Scott left or not the Eagles quarterback's coach? Well, you mean, listen, here's the deal is, Jalen Hertz can't work with the coaching staff on the field right now. Yeah.

So it makes sense for a guy who was as hungry as he is to improve to get someone who he knows is a capable NFL quarterback's coach to help him run through workouts. Like, that makes sense. He hasn't moved yet, you know? He's got, I mean, he's got coaches, though. He does. That's true. I mean, Quincy Avery was in some of the pictures.

That's true. He's got some long time. After Scott Leffler. After Scott Leffler. I just. Whatever happened to going to California to work out? Remember when that was a big deal? Yeah.

I mean, I don't care where those guys work out for the record. But yeah, I don't know. I'm a little bit like when they hired Parks Frazier as a quarterback's coach, I figured this is somebody that Jalen must have a good relationship with. I don't know if he has a good relationship with Scott Leffler. It does make me wonder a little bit. I can't recall an example of seeing a player working. working out with like a position coach who was like a one,

just a former one of theirs, especially very recently. Yeah. I'm not saying it necessarily, maybe it means nothing, but it's very funny. Definitely unprecedented to me from what I've seen. Weird one. I don't know. I mean, good for Scott Leffler.

I like your read. Maybe Jalen is like, I'm trying to get him some visibility. Sure. Get a job. Yeah, I don't know. And that's a very, that is like, that reflects very positively on Jalen as well, if that is the reading there.

Alex Schlesinger checking in with the super chat. Is there any new info regarding AJ with the Shephti report? Feels like we're not, feels like we are just hearing the same thing recycled, but he is not at voluntary camp. And that is a fair. That is really the reason that it goes out today. That was from the Mike Garifalo report.

That was a Mike Garifolo report, though, that he didn't show up to a voluntary camp. That is the timing reason for this, not just that it's a Monday morning of the draft, but that the Eagles voluntary portion, phase one begins today. There are a bunch of players at the Novacare Complex. AJ Brown is not among them.

And that is also important because AJ in the past has been there all the time even in the voluntary stuff. More so than like, I mean, not the name name. More so than Devante. Yeah.

And so there is a change there. Yeah. Yeah. And so there is a change there. And so that does help explain. Man, the super chats have been excellent conversation drivers so far. Like we got a whole game to play,

but we're just talking to the chat. This is great. Fantastic. Love it. All right. And with that, we will take a break. And come back with much more on the other side here.

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Welcome back to the P.H.O.I. Eagles podcast. Bo, E.J and BLG. Now, BLG, you are something of a sicker. I'm a sicker. Worse than him. No doubt about it. I didn't say that. I will say it.

I don't know why I had to catch a stray there. That's not a stray. That's a direct. I know. I don't know why that was necessary, but go on. And so you know what arena you are about to head into. That's right. The Duck, Duck, Juice, draft.

This will be the ninth. annual Duck Duck Juice draft coming up on 10 years. Many people say the most prestigious of all the pre-draft games. Now, slightly different this year. Usually, Duck, Duck Juice takes place a little bit earlier on the offseason, not quite so close to the draft. We might not have quite as good of a bead on the positions the Eagles are going to draft, but what we are going to do here is draft the 12 positions that the Eagles could draft

over the weekend, and I'll take you through the rule. the positions, as you would expect. Quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end, tackle, interior offensive line, edge defensive tackle, linebacker, cornerback, safety, and specialists. Now many people wonder, nine years in, you know, how do you innovate? How do you change and make something even more exciting that people have come to know? Well, very interesting new rule this year, E.J., with your love and mind. Yeah, you're after my own heart here.

And that is that specialists now includes not just kickers, not just punters, not just long snappers, but also fullback. Wow. So if the Eagles draft a full back and say on draft night that this is a fullback, specialists are going to get a little boost here. So it has to be like a straight up fullback. It cannot be a tight end that does a lot of dirty work. Well, I'm glad you brought that up because, you know, many people also wonder how do you break the tie?

How do you adjudicate someone who might be something of a tweener? Yeah. A cornerback safety tweener. Yeah, I had a question about that too. An edge tackle tweeter. A Tyler Steen, if you know. A tackle slash guard. Well, what we will do is we will use Fran Duffy's draft guide as our main source.

So if he's in the tackle guard, he's a tackle. If he's in the interior offensive line, he's an interior offensive lineman. However, if on draft night, Howie Roseman, says a specific position that contradicts that Fran Duffy ranking. We will take that as the position. And this is also subject to appeal. If we have an initial ruling, but the person shows up to rookie camp

and right away they're playing a different position, if Keldrick Falk is lining up just as a defensive tackle, we will take that information into account. We will change the grading. But we are using Fran's guide, which of course you can read. on all p.hly.com and become a diehard as our initial source. Okay.

That's fair. And finally, I need to tell you how it's scored, E.J. A first round pick at your position? Why are you explaining it to me? Because it's your first time. Yeah, but I know the rules. You can explain it to the audience. This is a shot across my bow.

I know. You know the rules. I do. You texted me this morning thinking this was a different game. Which is why I know the rules now. That's why I'm telling you. Seven points for a first. round pick, six points for a second round pick, five points for a third round pick, and on and on

down the line until one point for a seventh round pick. Obviously, you can get multiple points if your position is taken a few times. Last piece of ruling, the order is set every year by the defending champion. This year's defending champion, in absentia, Fran Duffy. And so Fran Duffy sent me the order that he wants us to select in. This is a snake draft and it will go. First overall, Bo. Second overall. Hold on. Wait a minute. How do I know this is true? I'll say second overall, BLG, third overall, EJ. Did he give a reason? Snake draft for why? He did not, but I do

believe this is, this is one where you don't want to have the first pick, I believe. I was going to say, I kind of think you did me a favor even though I was last. Oh, BLG, EJ, so it's an easy. We go down down on the line. That is nice. Are we good? We're great. Last thing to say, look at those graphics. Great job, Lindsay.

Picking it up on Duck, Duck, Duck, Juice. You know, always, always innovating, always pushing it forward. And let's now get to the first overall pick. And let's do it with the right people presented by True Mark Financial. As we try to figure out the right position for the Eagles, what is the highest value position? And this is a tough one. There are few positions where I am more confident the Eagles are definitely

going to draft someone in the first three or four rounds. But this one is I remain convinced, and I have been burned here before, that this is still the most likely first round selection. And so I'm going to use the number one overall pick in the ninth annual Duck Duck Juice draft on offensive tackle. Yeah. I think it could be a trade up, as we'll talk about, for Freeling or Proctor. It could be staying put for Ihanachore, something like.

like that. I think there are other positions you guys will draft where there are also first round possibilities and maybe more definite picks. But I think there are more tackle options for the Eagles. I'm taking tackle number one overall. How do you guys feel? I think that's the right pick. I almost had tackle in a tier of its own on my board. But I think it's at the top of tier one for me. I could see an first rounder. I also wouldn't be like stunned if they draft multiple tackles. So for that reason, I think it's a good first pick. That was the number of number one on my board tackle. It was also the first overall pick last year and last year.

And I boned that, yeah. But look, the Eagles have been wanting to do this. I feel like for years. They've been wanting to take an offensive tackle. It hasn't happened. And I think part of that is just because how the board has worked out. But I think because of that, that especially informs it this year, where I think they're going to be more prone to potentially trading up

than they have been in previous years to get that tackle. Do you have a strong opinion on that, top four and some of that you would really like to see the Eagles get? I think realistically, I Hanatur is the guy who I think, like, because we can talk about Freeling, I just, I don't, we did the SB Nation community mock draft. And that's just, you know, one simulation, Freethin goes six on that to the Browns. And I was like, I know. I was like, what?

So, I think the lions are also, you know, a real threat to take him or in that range there. So I look at I honitur from a standpoint of like, I think that. guy will be available to them realistically. And for as much as we can talk about, like, how do you feel about his development trajectory without Jeff Stoutlin here? Yeah. It's like they're not going to stop trying to develop

weapons of tackles just because he's gone. Obviously, you don't feel as confident about it maybe working out, but I still think Howie is of the mindset that he's going to shoot for upside. Okay. Yeah, I really like an I honit chore because, I don't know, some of the guys that they trade up for, I'm just more skeptical about them

than I would like to be trading up for them. And that might just be me of Ethan. I was talking to Coz today. He is out on Proctor. He does not like Proctor. I just think he's a guard. I think he's probably a good guard. And if you, if,

like, you know, let's say that the guy that obviously I've talked a lot about on the show, Kenyon Sadiq is off the board, then sure. Like, you can trade up and convince me that Vengo, Yawane, or Caden Proctor, as the pick make a lot of sense. Freeling for me, I'm scared of Freeling. I don't know. He's got some low, low lights.

So for me, Ihanichore at 23 feels better than trading up to get a guy who might honestly have the same, you know, a variety of outcomes possible for them. All right. Let's close the book on The Right People presented by Trumar. Tackle goes number one overall for the second year in a row. See if it burns me again. BLG, you are on the clock with the second overall pick. It's also the second pick from last year as well. So really exciting.

Now, is this you just rewatched last year or you just have this knowledge? I did rewatch. I mean, I do have some sicko knowledge in my head about things, but I did have to rewatch this specifically. Unfortunately, you also call it the least prestigious game, by the way, as a lead into there. I didn't want to tamper down as you were calling it the most prestigious, but I did notice that.

I shot across my bow for being invited for this game. But I'm going to go edge rusher because I think there's a scenario where it doesn't work out once again, offensive tackle for them, whether that's, you know, a big run going on before them. And it just, again, it doesn't work out. And I think you end up in a spot where Kaltrick Falk has been talked a lot about on this show. Or one of the other kind of edge rushers in that ilk are there.

Maybe it's even a little bit of a trade-down scenario. I think that's kind of the position where, I mean, we know they're looking for help there, right? Yes. They wanted to sign Dailin Phillips. They couldn't. They got outpriced. There's talk today from the same ESPN article from Adam Schaefter talking about AJ. Brown's future that Jonathan Ginnard is someone they're still kind of keeping tabs on.

Again, because on the show today believes that that is going to happen. Okay. Thanks. Post June 1st. And I've got to say, if they trade a pick this weekend for the veteran, that does not count as having drafted that position, just for the record. Yeah. So I think they're looking to add there, and they should be because maybe jail hunt's awesome, but we don't know if he's, you know, you can't just put all your eggs in that

bad, or turkeys, rather, in that basket. Thank you. Yeah. They also do not have, they don't have depth there either. So even if they trade, let's say, a third or a second for Jonathan Grenard or that's set up for potion first, they're still probably going to draft an edge. Yeah, it's easy. You see them adding at least one. I would be surprised if they do not add an edge.

I think a safe, a safe bet. Yeah, I do. Well, listen, if Keltrick Falk is there anywhere near 23, you find a way to get him and you run the card in and you laugh at the rest of the NFL for having questions about him as a prospect. Honestly, like, he was one of the most fun players we watched. So I think he'd make a lot of sense. I'm with you. I do lean toward a veteran player added to that room, though. So I think you might be looking more at like a day two or day three guy to rotate in.

If denied Dennis Sutton is there in second round, I'd be all in on that too. All right, AJ, you are on the clock with number three. All right. So I'm going to get two from. We'll just take one and then we'll go to break. Okay. All right. Well, I'm just saying I'm going to get at least two.

Well, I'm going to get two from my tier one here. I have a clear top five here. So I've got four. that maybe one of them comes to me, but yeah. Wide receiver is the one I'm going to start with. Okay. I could see them going wide receiver in round one. Probably not moving up significantly to go wide receiver in round one.

I don't love the guys at the top of the class, but if your Casey Concepcion's are there, if, well, I guess Casey Concepcion is the one that jumps out to me. Omar Cooper is also interesting. But, you know, we talked about the scheme fit from Casey Conception, the toughness that he has. I really like him as a prospect. I could see the Eagles using a first-round pick on him,

especially at 23. And then also there's a lot of guys on day two that make a lot of sense. And, you know, we've seen the Eagles are already preparing for life after AJ Brown. I know that Dantavian Wix is going to be a big part of that in the short term. But in the long term, I think they do have a player to add there that can be part of that,

that future, that they, the future of that position. So I think honestly, I'd be surprised if in the first three rounds they don't draft a receiver. Why receiver was number two on my board? Yeah. I would have,

it was two for me as well. I think they are definitely going to draft one in the first three rounds. I would be very surprised if they don't. Maybe there's a wide receiver going in my mock draft that's going to be up on all p.goy.com tomorrow. There better be. Better be. You'll have to see where it happens. I already know who it's going to be.

They don't. Someone in the chance is going to be very happy about it. I think wide receiver is a good pick. I remain of the opinion that we had on Friday show going through the wide receivers in this class. It is a really underwhelming group. and everybody is being pushed up at least around from what a normal prospect profile looks like. But there are some guys, I think, on day two and day three who can add to a room. I have a sweeping declaration here.

If the Eagles, because I've seen this out there and I hate it. So I want to address it on the podcast. If the Eagles trade two first round picks to draft Jordan Tyson, I will do the first 30 minutes of, you guys can tell me the show. I will do the first 30 minutes of a show in a British accent. that's how confident you guys know how much i hate that that's how confident i am that they will not trade two first round picks to replace a j brown the idea being they're going to get one for a j so they can just it's it's as if they are trading a j brown for jordan tyson i just jordan tyson missed half of the

games in college that he was eligible to play play in like i'm not he was like a fun player like sure i could see how people get there but i don't think that they're going to be wagering their future The injury stuff with Jordan Tyson, though, at least he was good. At least he was really, really productive in his healthy year. That's what like, I know there are different rounds. But if you're talking about a one for Jordan Tyson versus two for Chris Bell. But I'm saying two ones. Who hasn't produced in four years?

Well, I know. That hasn't produced in four years. He had 900 plus receiving yards his final year. And he got hurt. Otherwise, he would have hit the benchmark that you are so married. But Jordan Tyson hit it in his second year of playing. It matters when you do it. I'm not saying that they won't draft Jordan Tyson.

I'm saying I would be stunned if they trade two ones to get Jordan Tyson to get Jordan Tyson. That has to be part of it, two ones. The chat says you also have to be shirtless. I'm not doing the show shirtless. What are we talking about here? Bottomless. I mean, it depends on what studio. All right, let's take a break on the P.

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Where do you go? So I have a quick question. I shouldn't talk about the two I'm struggling with because that might tip off BLG. No, you should. Certainly can. It's likely not going to come back to you in five picks anyway.

Yeah, but this was really me being a good co-hosts, like, you know, looking out for my workwife. Like, do you want me to kind of play it, play cool here? Do whatever you want to do. I feel like you and I are on the same wavelength. So I think the two that I'm torn between, you probably have one of them in your top tier. It's possible, but also

BLG is his own man. You know? He is. You think you're going to sway him from his predetermined board, you know? All right. That's how you make mistakes on draft night. I am struggling between tight end and interior offensive line. Okay.

I would be shocked if the Eagles don't draft the tight end at some point. I could see him drafting too. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion, but I could see them drafting too, especially like add like a dirty work guy on like day three at the very end. I think a tight and double dip is very much in the possibility. But interior offensive line, they can. could double up there too, especially if it is like a Venga Yawane in the first round. Like I could see them going back.

It's not going to be Vanga Yuanay in the first round. Yeah, I know. He's going to go early. I'm going to go tight end. I'm going to stick to my board. I don't want you guys to look at my board, but you can see that tight end is third on my board. I mean, it could be Kenyon Sadiq in the first round.

Maybe they move up and get him. Get a true difference maker and an impact player in this class, which is what I think they should do. Beyond that, on day two of the draft, they're going to have tons of options. And they're going to be able to pick whatever flavor they want, whether It's receiving tight end, a combo guy like Nate Borkature, who is obviously not, you're not the biggest fan of, or, you know, a dirty work guy, a guy who can kind of be a younger cost-controlled version of what they wanted to add in Johnny Munn.

So I think they're going to have a lot of optionality. And for that reason, I do think that it's a pretty, pretty solid pick at this point. Brandon, where are you on the possibility of Sadiq in round one? I don't see it. I think they're going, so I'm sorry, E. It's okay. It's heartbreaking. It's like really, really hurt.

Yeah. I just from the positional value standpoint. Really? I can't see it. I'm not sold on the offensive weapon angle for them. For them, I just feel like of the positions you could get later. I think that's something they could slash will bank on,

especially after you bring back Goddard, not that like you know, you feel amazing about him. Yeah. Even necessarily staying healthy. But I just don't know the value you're getting out of that. I think you look at him as a past catcher. You look at him as a, again, a player that has a chance to make a real impact in a class where you're not really looking at a lot of players like that.

I know that your argument will be you'd rather have an average offensive tackle than like a top eight tight end in the NFL. That's not my argument. Well, that's my argument is I'd rather have the top eight tight end in the NFL. Well, I think you're wrong about that. Especially for the Eagle system where they don't, an average tackle in the Eagles offense is going to be a liability. Well, you don't know that. We also hear that there are maybe some changes being made to what they're going to ask of tackles. But first of all, you're wrong about just the market valuation for it.

I mean, an average starting tackle gets a lot more than the fifth best tight end in football. And what I reject is the idea that Kenyan Sadiq is definitely going to be a top eight tight end. He is still a protection. None of these guys are like I don't think that the tackle prospects are definitely going to be average tackles. I mean, a lot of them look like guards to me. So I'm just saying the framing is like you're drafting, you know, I don't want to use Iana Choir as the example. If you're drafting like Caleb Lomu over Kenyan Sadiq,

get out of here with that. And I understand your framing of like it's you, they are more expensive, but they are also easier to sign. Like you can find an average tackling free agency. You might have to overpay for it. I don't think that's. You have to overpay for it.

It's way easier to sign a tight end. No, it's easier to sign a tight end, but a top five tight end? Those guys don't hit the market. I mean, good tackles never hit the market. Average tackles. We're talking like... No, those are sub-average tackles.

Those are... You can find a guy that, like, is an average starter in the NFL easier in any position than it is to find, like, a true elite tight end on the free agency. Those guys are going to get tagged. So it's not about, like, the resources. I think you are overstating the likelihood of finding an average tackle in free agency. I think it's extremely... I mean, I'm trying to think of the guys who signed this year. Your boy.

Bottom barrel guy. Elijah Verit Tucker. Right. It was coming off two straight season-ending injuries. Yeah, but I would call him an average tackle. Well, if he's healthy, he's good, but he's, he's on the average. He's been injured for a very long. We're talking about the guy who was the backup on the Niners, get signed by the chiefs to like a $20 million deal.

Yeah, I'm that you can still find those guys. You have to overpay for them, but you can find an average tackle and free agency easier than you're going to find like Charlie Colar? I'm trying to think, like, I don't want to use Chico Conquo. I think you're aiming higher than that. Let me see. Even, like, Kyle Pitts didn't hit the market. That's what I mean.

Kyle Pitts is not an elite tight end, but it's hard to find, like, top eight at any position in free agents. And Kyle Pitts is a good reminder here, because Kyle Pitts was super productive and tested out of the gym and goes fourth overall and has had a fine career. Yeah. Fair? Barely fine. And he gets drafted over Jamar Chase and Penae Sewell, guys at premium positions, and that's fine. But again, the profile of Kenyan Sadiq, I like watching Kenyan Sadiq. He's really fun to watch. He's a much better blocker than he's being given credit for. Fran has done a very good job breaking him down. But I'm just a little bit wary of the profile. He's got this amazing athleticism and he doesn't have production. And I'm a little bit worried about that.

Yeah, I can't explain away the production, but I do think it is reflective of the class. Like you're talking about Penae, Sewell, and Jamar Chase. We're not talking about those types of prospects that the Eagles are weighing against Kenyan Sadiq. I think it is a pathway to getting a player that can make a real impact. And I just don't see it with the other guys.

I mean, and listen, everybody in this draft is going to be a possibility of 23, you can poke a lot of holes in. Yeah. That's why it's not thought to be a very good draft. but I just where do the good players that good positions come from

they come in the first round tackle is like that's where you get them and I would rather have a second round caliber prospect because he's a tackle in the first round I'm just not sorry to have that guy

then I know I wouldn't a guy who would probably be a second or third round pick at tight end a position that Kenan Sadeek is not that generally speaking usually takes a really long time to develop and that has changed over the past couple years

I think we always argue a lot when the guest are. Colston Lovellet is and Ty Warren and Brock Bowers. You're saying that Kenyat-Siddy is a second-round prospect in most drafts? I think athletically he's a first-round player. I think if this were a different draft,

he would be talked about at the back end of first round. I disagree. I disagree. Okay. And that's what's brewing. Call him a second-round player. I just, I don't get that. Bye, Wawa.

All right, BLG, you are on the clock now. That's right. After tight end, where are you going? It's just one pick, right? Just one. Yes. Double check. I want to go.

between you started sinking again I did if I asked how the snake draft worked you would have been I would have been in hell he's a guest I'm a guest but I mean I should know I just wanted to be safe I'm gonna go with the other of your two picks there

it's kind of a chalk board I would say so far I'm gonna go into your offensive line I was I was really hoping you would take that over tight end I felt strongly more strongly about tight end so good pick by you Yeah, I mean, I think it's kind of When they brought back Fred Johnson

I think that was obviously key Not only because you have depth behind And we'll see what they do in terms of the first round But just setting the floor Of depth behind Lane Johnson I'm Jordan Milata But also the fact that if they If Fred Johnson didn't return

They would have three different Their top three backup offensive linemen Would all be different right from last year And Brett Toh's gone And I think that's an underrated loss I agree I think it's a sneaky loss for the Eagles. Matt Pryor, you know, not the best player.

And he was the ace in that pecking order ultimately. But still, you're losing players who've played in the NFL and you can point to. And, you know, they're obviously high. And Drew Kendall, as you've talked about E.J. But hasn't done it yet. And you don't know. So I feel like they're going to have to get some more security there. Landon Dickerson, we don't know how much longer he's even going to play.

Yeah. Just a concern. Cam Juergens, you know, we'll see what he looks like. this year, a big unknown. So it feels like they have to address that at some point. I don't know when, but at some point. So I'm going to take that and feel as a good as a high floor option. Good pick, I think.

Yes, great pick. Right. Good chance. It's the first three rounds for sure. I have just constantly been using the Landon Dickerson analogy from a few years ago where it's like you draft a guy, you hope he doesn't start many games and he might start 15 games as rookie season with the way that their interior offensive line looks this year. I think that they will approach drafting offensive line

as if it's the first round, it's got to be a tackle. I don't think they would use the first round pick on an interior guy. And then any round after that, it's just best available lineman. That's kind of how I feel. I think you're right about the Fred Johnson point because they don't need to force that in terms of a short-term thing. It's just that if you want to procure a long-term guy at the position, that's when you got to get them.

I feel like we don't have to do it today. Before the draft, I think we should talk more about this. like he's got like an 8% chance of being a good tackle but that's fine because we're drafted like that 8% draft that 8% is the difference between him and someone like vanga yoane i just i don't know i don't know if i'm there with that we don't have to do it today fine okay um last pick of the second round i'm going to go i'm going to go safety um i don't feel great about that I think that's why there was a clear top five and there's a little jumble here of the next four picks

you could convince me, or next three maybe, you could convince me on. But I do think there's a chance on day two they draft a safety who can compete the start next to Drew McCuba. Howie has very openly said they're not done at that position. I think this is a pretty good safety draft too. Fran has broken it down well. I think that's one of the few positions where as we went through the exercise,

it made me feel better about the group than I would have thought. in a normal year. And so I think there's a good chance that with three day two picks, there will be a safety who's the top of their board there. So I'll go safety.

Was that next for you guys? Yeah, I was next for me. I think there's zero chance that happens in very bold. And then the first round. And people talked about like, oh yeah, but you would have said that

about linebacker last year, right? With Todd Campbell. And the difference, and fair rebuttal, but the difference there is they also kind of had already tipped their hand

in showing that they've valued that position a little differently when they paid Zach Bonn, a huge contract. That was a great. And I think it's a different situation where it's really the opposite this year. They could have kept a read Blankenship if they really wanted to do that. And they clearly did not value him. They don't value an average starting safety at $8 million. And that tells you they're probably not going to use, especially on the second two guys.

I think there is a world where if Caleb Dane is not going to, but if Caleb Downs was available at like 15 and they could move up for him as a truly elite player. I think they, yeah, I would put two turkeys on that. Right. But I think, I think you're right. Okay. Safety was nice for you as well. It was, yeah. So I had them broken up. You had a top five. I had a top, actually had a top six, but we've, we have all of them off. I think there's a big tier skip from here, in my opinion. All right. Time for our last break on the P.H.O.I. Eagles podcast.

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Go to ShadyR and use code P. HLYSR for 50% off two or more pairs of polarized sunglasses. Back on the P.HLY Eagles podcast. third round of Duck Duck Juice. So far I have tackle and safety. BLG has edge an interior offensive line. EJ has wide receiver and tight end. I'm between two picks here.

Both of them sort of projecting they're going to have to replace a starter next offseason guys who are pending free agents. I'm going to go with Corner. Okay. Because we know Rick Willans on a one-year deal.

They would like, I think, potentially to have another nickel guy in the pipeline. if they could find it. And most importantly, what breaks the tie here for me between corner and defensive tackle is I'm doing my part for the show. Cornerback, safety, if we have a flex guy,

now there's no debate. I just get the point. Oh, I mean, it would have been more fun if there's like some argument. Maybe it's true drama. Yeah. That's true. Would have been good for that.

But I'm taking corner. I think there's a chance on day three they draft a corner. All right. you guys agree yep yes yeah was that would that have been next on your list uh maybe not okay it was not for me what you got i want to get spicy we're gonna do it oh oh i'm like you're a high upside swing you did cornerback i'm going to do quarter nice i think this is like way more likely than it's getting talked about and not it's not so mad you took that it doesn't

have to be the Eagles hate Jailen Hertz. Like that's not the reason they would, alone, they would take a quarterback. I just think even if you, let's just take Jalen Hertz out of it for a second. Having a quarterback on a rookie contract is a bargain. Not even just from a starter standpoint, but a backup standpoint. Guys last year who were making like $6.5, $6 million include like Zach Wilson and Jared Stidham. You're paying those guys like real money to be a backup quarter.

for you and guys that you don't feel good about at all. So I think there's a real chance they take someone in this draft to get cheaper there. Tanner McKee, the goat, likely probably not going to be back on the final year of his deal. Also, we could have more kind of comfortability trading him now that you have Andy Dalton in the house as well if it offer materializes this offseason. So I think absolutely quarterback should be on the table. For anyone like pushing back against it as an impossibility, I mean, that's what we think. thought when they took Dealing Earth once upon a time.

I've literally done this before and it has worked out incredibly well for them. And usually when you're looking at what, like when you're trying to project what the Eagles are going to do in the draft, I mean any team, that is as good an indicator as anything. So yeah, that was going to be my pick. I think that there's late day two, early day three.

It would not surprise me at all if they drafted a quarterback. And I like the idea of even though they have three guys on the roster now and let's say that McKee doesn't get a blow you away offer that you have to take. They've got, you know, Sean Mannion, Josh Grisard, Parks, Frazier, Gerard Johnson, all these quarterback guys in the building.

They have enough bandwidth to take on sort of a developmental project and have that be their, you know, year-long incubator. Maybe that's what Gerard Johnson does because we're wondering what he's going to do. So I think that's a good high upside swing. Is there a guy you have your eye on? I don't. I don't yet. but I just feel like the upside

because if they're going to take one, I'm guessing it might be, like if there's one worth taking, it might be in the third round or second run as opposed to just waiting all the way to the second. Yeah, I was doing some mock draft simulators this morning

in preparation for my mock. And, you know, sometimes like the mock draft simulators can get wonky because it's like, I know that guy's not going to be there. But I did a few where Garrett and Usmeyer was available. Sure. At the end of the third, early fourth,

I feel like the Eagles would do that. There's a report out today that he has a cyst on his spine. Yeah, I saw this. He's responsible for the injuries that he had last season. And right now, he is not feeling the effects of that. But if it comes to the point where it needs to be replaced, it's like a three-week deal.

Yeah, yeah. I don't know if that. I don't know why he wouldn't just go ahead and do that then. Yeah, you would think like during the pre-draft process, especially at this point. Yeah, I had him in one of the simulations I did. I had him at 98 overall for the Eagles. Okay.

All right, E.J., you're on the clock. Yeah, I really liked quarterbring. This is in my tier three, which I titled possible surprises. I knew you would love my like very generic name. I'm going to go defensive tackle. I think that was the one you were deciding between. There is that Morrow Adjomo, Milton Williams, Javon, Hargrave role that the Eagles really value that deputy past rushing specialists on the interior off or defensive line.

I don't think that they'll use an early pick on it unless it is someone like Keldrick Falk, I think on day three, it probably will take a flyer on somebody to try and make sure that they have some succession planning there. So, you know, maybe that's like a Zane Durant from Penn State. I think he's someone who makes sense. Tyler Oneeddon probably is a little bit early for the Eagles. Although I know, I know Fran's not a big fan of his either. So that makes me wonder how much the Eagles would value him. But for the for that position, I think it is one that they will target at some point on day three. And yeah, I also get the added value of Keldrick Falk if he gets drafted. Maybe, you know, That's okay.

Like, where's he going to line up day one? So I like it for team content as well. Okay. I think Team Benzal Taco is good. Yeah, I think they would like to have a guy who can, they can dream on as having the Ojam O-M-Path, a late-round pick who ends up replacing him because it seems unlikely he's going to be back. Yeah.

All right. You get your last pick. Start off round four. All right. I am going to go. I'm going to go specialists. Wow. Really?

I was going to go. I'm going against my board for the record. Wow. But this is history. This is the first time, I believe, in nine years of the Duck Duck Juice draft. That specialist has gone before. Has not been the final pick. This is very exciting.

And you have to wonder, is this a reflection of the exciting new rule change that was made about fullbacks counting? It totally is. I did this mostly because I think it sounds fun to root for the Eagles to draft a fullback. I don't think the Eagles are going to draft a kicker or a punter. I mean, a long snapper? Maybe the number one guy on their board. They're like, all right, we're trading into the seventh to get this guy. It was mostly just for the fun of.

I wanted to leave the draft with this as like my my trophy. So I want specialists. Fran is in the chat and I will tell you what he said in overtime. Fran, of course, who as defending champion gave the draft order. He was trying to set you up for success, E.J. He says, E.J. I gave you the. the third pick, and you just flushed it down the toilet. I think my draft has been very good up to this point.

And, you know, listen, again, I want to root for this. So I feel great about it. I've become the fullback guy on the show. You should have known this was going to happen. He says literally, I'm going to give Eiji the third pick as a handicap to help him out. Wow. All right, BLG, running back and linebacker left. Where are you going to go?

I respect the move from E.J. from an entertainment standpoint. I was considering doing that because I didn't think you were going to actually do it. And I was like, well, whatever, it'll be fun to root for. Now the much less fun and actually serious choice, I guess. I'll go linebacker. I feel like you can always draft a linebacker, you know, if at least to play special teams, obviously there's set there at starters.

And even I feel really good about the depth there. I think Jeremiah Trotter Jr. is a player that kind of doesn't get talked to enough about in terms of the scope of the roster. And he was really good last year. I thought in training camp. He didn't lose the starting job in training camp because he was bad. He lost it because they had Jahad Campbell. Yeah.

He took him with the first round pick. So I'm bullish on him should either one of the starters get hurt or Campbell, for some reason, doesn't work out. But they can always use more depth there still. And we're at this point in the draft where it's the penultimate pick. And also just, you know, day three, there's a good chance of guys at the top of your board. Sure. Yeah.

It's totally fine. I have a question about the linebacker classification. Harold Perkins. If they draft Harold Perkins, what are we calling him? What position do they say that he is? Okay. We go. Franz first, but if they declare something different...

If they say, I'll say a linebacker. We're calling that edge rusher, right? Not necessarily? Yeah, that's... Then that's when we're going to see where he lines up. Yeah, that'll be fun. Who's he doing position groups with? Yeah.

And that's one where, like, you know, when they do the conference call in the middle of the draft, Everybody's going to be like, oh, so which coaches did you talk to? You know, throughout the draft process. I remember Jahad's talking to Jeremiah Washburn. And everybody was like, oh, they want to make him an edge. Good point in the chat from Ezio, E.J. Howie would draft a serial killer before he would draft a long snapper.

I mean, again, I'm not saying this was, I really treated this exercise. Howie Roseman doesn't even think long snappers deserve roster spots on the 53, let alone a draft pick. Keep him on the practice spot. but I did it for because I want something to hold on to. I want something to root for. Okay, I like that. I mean, great value for me, getting running back, 12th overall, Mr. Irrelevant. I don't, I mean, listen, Sequan's in the last year of his deal of guaranteed money.

Tank Bigsby is a free agent after this year. Will Shilpe's got one year left. So there's real reason, I think, that in this draft, where there are some okay day three guys. It's possible that they draft a guy. Yep. Yeah. possible. I could get a two-pointer or a three-pointer there.

I'm okay with that. Pat Fienis asks if a punt-returner counts. I don't think that's fair. I don't think that it's fair for me. No, it does no. I claim a punt-returner. Yeah. But a full-back.

If it's a tight end that's full-backy, that's going to be fun. This is what I feel so good about the thing. You just want the drama? Yeah, I just like the intrigue for the show. I'm team content. E.J, your roster in your first foray into DDJ, wide receiver, tight-end, defensive tackle, and special. specialist, BLG, in your debut.

Edge, interior offensive line, quarterback, and linebacker, and Bo looking to get off the Schneid, tackle, safety, corner, and running back. How'd you guys feel about your first Duck, Duck, Duke's draft? I think I feel better about yours. The tackle one is, it's a really, I think the number one pick overall this year was actually a good year to get, yeah, I like the tackle pick.

It's a good year for the first pick, I think. Yeah. I think tackle. tight end might work out pretty well for you. The more I think about it, though, I think tackle isn't a tier of its own. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Well, let us know. In the comments, how you would have stack ranked at all. Oh, that reminds me. So a very exciting announcement today. I think everybody who watches this show should check out Broadstreetbulletton.com. Broadsteebulleton.com. I think you're going to like what you see. That's all.

To get like a Rich Hoffman email in my inbox this morning. I, and you know, not to, not to flex, but I've got rich on three different emails. It's like three buzzes really quick right after one, right after another. And I was like, oh, I used to get that one. How many emails are you rocking with? I've got three. Okay. Interesting.

I've got my personal email. I have my work email here. What's the third? And I have my professorial email. Oh. So I'm on all three. Oh. Now you should all subscribe.

I only subscribed on one email. I have to put a hand up on that. It's understandable. Yeah, but you should all subscribe, make up for it. I think that's right. I know that's right. Brandon, thank you for joining us. Any other draft thoughts you'd like to get off your chest

before we see you on Thursday night? I'm excited, obviously. I think it's been an interesting off season. We've talked about this off the year as it comes to approaching the draft where there wasn't, it didn't feel like the fervor was there the whole way as much as it is in a lot of years. But now that it's draft week, I mean, it's here.

Juice is here, absolutely. Okay. I'm excited. This is what it's all about. Here we go. Looking forward to it. Tomorrow, Fran joins us, the Owl You Know draft in which he, E.J. and I draft 10 players each. We think the Eagles are most likely to draft.

I believe Fran won that one as well last year, thanks to his Drew McCuba selection. Stay tuned to find out who gets selected tomorrow. Thank you, Lindsay. Thank you, uh, new Ethan for tagging along and having absolutely no reaction at all. Yeah, he really knows so. So either Shady Ray or Howeed Roseman. The guys just used to it. It was just incredible.

It was a good no-cell. Like your first time seeing Howeed Ed Roseman and you're like, yeah, another day at the office. Absolutely. Oh, a super chat in under the wire, Dinkleberg. BLG, are you going to be at any of these Circa survive reunion shows in Philly in September? If so, hell yeah, I'll see you there. Absolutely. I will be there.

And E.J. might be there as well. I am interested. This is on my radar. What is that? It's a band. They're from Doylestown. Doylestown bass band.

Big Eagles fans. Shout out to Brendan Ekstrom, loyal listener here. And a super chatter often, or at least occasionally. Don't know if Brendan's watching live right now. That doesn't sound familiar. But absolutely. They're fans of the show. Great band.

How do I not know this? Yeah. So check him out. So I can survive. I'm going to start listening on my way home. This is fantastic. How is this just being, coming across my desk?

You know, like I've been dropping the ball. This is fantastic. All right. Thank you, everybody. We will talk to you tomorrow at 2 o'clock. Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching. And as always, we love you.