PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Eagles Film Review: Fran Duffy explains why this was Jordan Davis' BEST GAME as an Eagle

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

Jordan Davis shined in the absence of Jalen Carter for the Eagles in their Week 1 win over the Dallas Cowboys while the linebacker duo of Zack Baun and Jihaad Campbell might be on its way to being the best in the league, even if cornerback 2 remains a problem area given Adoree’ Jackson’s struggles. On offense, we need more A.J. Brown, but Jalen Hurts’ legs were enough to save the day while Kevin Patullo gave us the first glimpse of his offense. Fran Duffy breaks it down with Bo Wulf and EJ Smith. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

from the Xfinity mobile studio. It is the P.H.L.Y. Eagles podcast presented by Bet365 and Ashley Home Furniture. We've got E.J. Smith in the middle. We've got Fran Duffy on the right. I'm Bo Wolf. And we're here to talk about last night's game. The Eagles. They're the only team that's 1 and 0 in the NFL. It's nice to be on top again for the Philadelphia Eagles. How you guys doing? E.J., how much sleep did you get? I got like three and a half hours, which I think is actually pretty good compared to relative company here. I think it's off of some pre-show conversations we had. It feel good. You know, had a cup of coffee, got my water here. Even some apples, you know, some natural sugars, some natural energy.

So I'm excited for this. I'm ready. Yeah. How about you? Fuel up. Yeah. I got like, it was like three, three and a half, something like that. By the time I was able to come down a little bit.

I thought like, oh, I'll just, I'll do the show and I'll go and lay down and go over to sleep. No, it didn't work that way. So, no, we're off and running. Yeah, that night came adrenaline. That'll keep you up when you get home. There's always something to do when you get back to the house. Oh, absolutely. I mean, set the coffee for the morning, run the dishwasher, you know, check the YouTube, all that stuff.

There's a lot to do. And then you've got to get up. You got to crunch the film. That's right. I never wait. And so we got a lot to talk about here on the show. Now, I did notice that I've already seen some Fran doing guys emojis in the chat. That means that we've got some people in the supporters club, and you too can join the PHLY supporters club.

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That's all I was able to get to. So I'm very curious to hear what you say about the defense, Fran. So let's start there. And the thing that you put out on social media that you teased was that after watching this game, your take is that this was the best game of Jordan Davis's career. Yeah. And you know what? It was funny because it didn't really start to sink in that that was the case until we got into like the third quarter because the typical journey for when you're watching an eagles game with jordan davis and you're keeping an eye on him is that all right you're going to get him holding up well at the point of attack he's a good run defender not a great run defender there are flashes of dominance but then there are plays we're like oh like you know

he did his job but it wasn't like a plus plus type of grade play right and then you get a one flash in this game it just felt like i was just writing his name down over and over and over and so i was trying to figure out like, oh, which plays are I want to bring to the table for this from a screen grab standpoint. It could be tough to point out Jordan Davis in screen grab format. If you don't necessarily always see, you know, what the, you know, what the plays look like from a video standpoint. But you know what I thought? I was like, all right, to just show like the sheer volume of like where I thought like, all right, he was a plus player on this play, I'm going to grab a screen grab from every single one. And so I gave, I sent, I sent over to Julia,

11 separate plays. Wow. Remember, like how many plays did Jordan Davis? play? Like, yeah, he played. It was one of the highest points, right? Julia, why don't we flash up first the defensive snap percentages here? Because there are a bunch of guys here who played the most, like the highest percentage of snaps that they have ever played for the Eagles. And obviously, that starts with Jordan Davis and Morrow Ojima, who played, you know, you see there, Ojamo plays 90% of the snaps. Jordan Davis plays 87% of the snaps. Nolan Smith plays 85% of the snaps. We'll count Jihad Campbell and Andrew McCuba there, who you see playing a very high percentage

percentage of snaps, obviously, that came as some result of Jalen Carter getting kicked out six seconds into the game. But for all the talk about Jordan Davis's conditioning and we have sort of been here before, like that we're going to have to see it, the proof is going to have to be in the pudding. We'll believe it when we see it. Even though we know that defensive tackles sometimes have a long development curve, it's only one game. But for him to play this amount of snaps and to be, as you are telling us, Fran, consistently impactful throughout the game is a great piece of news for the Eagles. No question. Well, let's just jump into some of these plays. Julie, if you want to pull up the first Jordan Davis shot. And again, this one was kind of like the run

of the mill. This is what you've come to expect from Jordan Davis. First play, the second drive. So we're five and a half minutes into the first quarter left in the first quarter. He posts up Tyler Smith, one of the best guards in football. And again, this is what you come to expect. First time I wrote his name down this play, posts a month. up holds up the point of attack well and now we'll get to the very next play which was again the very next snap five minutes left in the first quarter good bull rush versus the center where he gets off the ball well and not only that like I'd say all right you usually get the get off with jordan davis then maybe you get some knockback but to me where it kind of stood out and it flashed a couple of

times was he had that like secondary burst that explosiveness late in the down to move dac prescott off his spot it was a completion of cd lamb for 18 yards where dacks roll into his left but the power, the burst were evident there. Now, we go to the next one here, Julia. Very next drive, this is the one that was the near sack. It's first and 10 play action pass, five minutes left in the second quarter. And again, you get the burst off the ball. He powers through the center.

And again, you get that secondary burst to nearly sack Dak Prescott. You just got to finish the play, but you love the rush there. So you get those kind of rushes on consecutive drives. Two plays after that. So we'll go to the next shot here, Julia. two plays after that three and a half minutes left in the second quarter. It's third and two. They run for a first down here on this play.

It was, you know, it's third and short, but he shows some lateral quickness off the ball. He's got a quick club swim move and he gets into the backfield. And he kind of changes direction and makes the play. I thought he showed some athleticism there. This was the first half. I'll kind of cut short just so I can catch my breath. And I don't know if you guys have any questions.

But to me, like the first half, strong, but I didn't like, I wasn't like feeling, oh man, this was the this was dominant performance from jordan davis that didn't happen until we got to the third quarter okay that's interesting because because this is sort of what you were talking about where these these were some some flashes that you were able to notice on a broadcast especially those those two pressures go ahead e j no i was just going to say that it's it's interesting that his best work came as the game progressed you know you think about the fact that this is the most snaps he's played outside of that buffalo game a couple years ago when you know when the

overtime factored into his snap counts and injuries at that position so So, yeah, Fran, I am curious to see, you know, how the conditioning was a factor in that third quarter, maybe in a way that we haven't seen from him before. So I guess my question about the first half, Fran, is how much did you, were you able to notice the effect of Jalen Carter being kicked out right as the game happened? Like, did it seem like the Eagles were swimming a little bit? Did it seem like the Cowboys maybe changed their point of attack as they were trying to not worry about Jailen? I think there was probably like an adjustment to your point on both sides where it's like, all right, like now we can, we don't necessarily need to throw all of our attention. I know EJ, you said, Dak Prescott had said that in post game that they had, they had a whole

plan designed to try and stop Jalen Carter. And so to not have him, you know, you not necessarily scrap that, but, you know, that's a lot less to worry about if you're DAC and if you're the offensive line. I do think that you started to feel that, you know, not having Jalen Carter's presence in the run game a little bit, you know, he is, because that's the thing is that we think about. about Jalen Carter and his disruption against the pass, but he's also a really good run defender. And, you know, one of the things that did stand out to me in this game, you know, and I, this is, he was the, the player of the summer for good reason. I still have high hopes for this player.

But Morrow Jombo, like the difference between he and Milton Williams, you know, right now, like the, you know, Morrow this year versus, you know, Milton last year, Milton was really, really stout on contact. He held his ground really, really well. And there were like two or three times in this game. It's not like Morrow just got completely uprooted, but he does give up ground early on, where if he gets hit by a double team, he can get pushed off his spot a little bit more than what we saw from Milton Williams. So I do think, you know, not having Jalen Carter there in the middle. I think that that was felt certainly from that end, as well as getting after the quarterback as

well. E.J, I know you feel defensive right now. I know, I know, hey, I do not feel defensive because this isn't the job that you want Mario AjoMo doing. This isn't what I was bullish about. I'm bullish about his ability to get to the quarterback. His role changes week one. We're not going to do an overreaction Monday on Moro Jomo here. And I also don't like this reframing from you that like I'm the only one that's been bullish on Moro Jomo this summer.

But I'm focused on him too. You're just the only one who has said the floor is that he's better than Milton Williams. I just got paid a hundred million dollars three months ago. His past rest production, there's still a lot of time for him to get those five sacks. I think I think that there's a, I'm, I'm, I'm nice and relaxed on the Moroajomo. So I'm going to call it the hill now. I'm kicking you off. I'm the only one on this hill.

Okay. All right. Yeah. So I think this was, I mean, obviously this was interesting. And they had much, they had some success running the ball, especially in the first half. They did have to get away from it a little bit in the second half. So I'm curious how much of that was a result of Jordan Davis picking up his game.

Yeah. Well, let's take a look. Julia, we'll go to shot five is where we left off here for, you know, for Jordan Davis. now what is what you see from from jordan so uh you had that this was the the lateral quickness let's go to the next shot here and with the next shot all right okay so we have this is the we have the the pb u here uh the the previous play was the penalty the george pickens penalty where he like tries to take re blanket chips head off uh that play obviously doesn't count in the stat sheet

but i thought that davis did really good job against tyler smith on that play gets off and makes the tackle. You get the PBU on second and 22 here. Julia, you go to the next play. This is two plays later. I talked about this last night on the post game show. He's the one who gets the running back, Miles Sanders, to cut back to get that Byron Young force fumble, Byron Young, force fumble, by the way. So Jordan Davis sets that one up because he posts up the right guard, Tyler Booker. So that's, we're still talking middle of third quarter here just before the rain delay. Julia, if you go to the next shot, this is three minutes, 10 seconds left. the third quarter. It's the first play of the very next drive. Jordan Davis gets a run stop on a

counter run play where he completely jacks up the center and squeezes the run lane down where Javante Williams has nowhere to go with the football. You go to the next play. This is one minute left in the third quarter. Really good knockback against Tyler Booker and combines with Nolan Smith once again to make the time. You see Jordan Davis like on the other side of the line of scrimmage here on this play. And that's the thing is like usually you know you go back last year, year before. And you had like two of these plays in one game. The fact that we're getting like five, six, seven in this first one, that's what got me excited. As we're going on, all right, this is late third quarter. Very next snap, Julie, we'll go to the next play. Play 10. Very next play. He gets caught in space and he

tracks down C.D. Lamb and he gets C.D. Lamb down to the ground on a wide receiver screen. And then final one here, very next play or a very next drive. He's on the backside of a run, they're running to the offense is right, defenses left. Jordan Davis is on the back side. He shows some quickness here. He slants into the backfield and then you see it put his right foot in the ground and cut laterally and he's able to combine with Jalick's hunt on a TFL. So again, usually you'd get like two or three of these plays, maybe three or four on a good day for Jordan Davis. The fact that there were 11 of them and it was like, all right, like a couple of them were where he just holds up really well at the point of attack and forces the action back. That's what you got last year.

10, 11 plays like this, that's to me like that's why it made this the best one from start to finish for Jordan Davis in his career. Do you think he was, he was, he was, he was, buoyed by the lightning break? I joked about that last night that maybe nobody was helped more than he and, and morrow just because they're, sorry, those guys who played almost 90% of the snaps. Maybe, but look, I'll, I'll give it to him, man. The fact that he played the level that he did throughout the course of the night, that was big, certainly for the Seagull's defense. All right. That's, I mean, that's very good news for the, yes. What do you make of the, the Jordan Davis development here.

Yeah, I think looking back at training camp, we sort of slow played it, like you mentioned, the conditioning, but he did look different, even compared to years past. So, no, I mean, if he can be that much of an X factor, both in the past game and the run game, especially you put Jalen Carter back into that equation. I think, you know, we were bullish on the Eagles

interior defensive line for a reason. And I think I didn't even factor in maybe him taking this much of a leap. So I know it's been one week, but no, I definitely am encouraged by this for sure. Generally speaking, Fran, what did you think of the edge guys in this game? Yeah, I thought we saw some flashes, right? You saw the first big completion of CD Lamb against Adori Jackson, where it was like a double move on third and one. Jaylor's hunt was, I mean, split second away from a strip sack there.

Nolan Smith had a couple of nice rushes. Josh Usier had a couple of nice rushes. I just think overall, neither when you look at the edge guys, like no one has. had like, oh, really a ton of success against Terrence Steele or Tyler Guyton. I think you missed Jalen Carter's presence, certainly inside. Maybe that helps a little bit in terms of just getting an extra set of eyeballs on the interior. But overall, it was just an okay night for the edge rushers.

What did you make of Tyler Guyton, like, completely waylaying Jailings Hunt with that left haymaker? What was your takeaway? Did you feel like that should have been a penalty? Well, it should have been a penalty. Maybe if he flexed afterwards, then maybe you throw him. flag on them. But yeah, it's, don't get me started on the, uh, the taunting thing because that was, yeah, that was a little too much. That was definitely tiki tack. Yeah. We, we're going to get into a longer

discussion about the linebackers and, and what Jihad Campbell showed in this game and, and also the cornerback too is, but I want to save that for after the break. But before the break, tell me what you thought of, of Drew McCuba and how the safety's played. Yeah, let's talk. So the, the safety usage really was pretty cut and dry. Okay. So read blank a ship, obviously, every down player. He lined up to the boundary side, to the short side of the field, the entire game. Then you had to basically split time share between Sidney Brown and Drew McCuba. Sidney Brown lined up in base to the field. So to the opposite side of Reed Blanketship, he also came on the field in dime and played to the field. Now, when they were in nickel,

Drew McCuba lined up to the field. When they played dime, McCuba came down and was the extra slot corner. So playing opposite Cooper to Jean. So that was the, so you had some three safety looks where you had all three guys in the field. That was in their 60B, that dime package. But otherwise, they split the pie that way where you had blanket ship on all the entire time, Sidney Brown only in base, and then McCuba in nickel. And what did you think of Macuba? Solid job. There were a couple times they were playing downhill where he looked natural playing in the box. He and Jahad Campbell finished on a play in the flat together on one one play. That was a nice rap. I thought it was a solid day. Honestly, it was Sidney Brown. Same

deal. I think that you had the one injury, injury scare with him where he was a little bit slow getting up after a colliding with an Eagles player. But I think when you're looking at Sidney Brown and Macuba, yeah, I thought it was a solid first day at the office. It feels like especially, I mean, we didn't expect Macuba to really take so much of that pie so early. It feels like the momentum is going to be him as a starting safety. And then like, I kind of like Sydney Brown is like the sub package, you know, kind of just like turn him loose. in certain situations, maybe close to the line of scrimmage. Again, I know Maccuba also has that nickel value, but yeah, I think that this is probably the way they wanted it to end up, right? You know, again, we probably got here a week or two earlier than we thought, but watching it, it made sense. You know, it felt like, you know, we spent so much of the summer talking about safety and outside corner, and it is kind of funny, the polar opposites that you kind of leave this game

feeling about those two different spots. And I do, I wonder if, I don't know if you want to continue. you having this usage with the safeties because then you then you get too predictable and you can have teams like okay we're going to force you into base and then we can really target Sydney Brown. I feel like it is it is going to trend more towards let's just get macuba on the field so that there is less predictability. I think that's probably fair. I think that the more they can do to mirror last year's personnel grouping where it's like all right like you can keep that nickel defense on there the entire day and feel good about it.

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All right, Fran. We made the point in the post game show last night, and there are a lot of things that, like, you sleep on it. Do I really believe that? This I do believe that most of the things in week one, like, you get the win, you're happy, you check the box. a lot of the schematic stuff, I feel like we'll work itself out. You know, I remember talking to Jason Kelsey after the first game of the 2023 season when they had that sloppy win against the Patriots.

And he was talking about the difference of like things that are correctable and things that are not. And if it's like, if you think you've got the talent, it's correctable. But I think what really does matter is the way that Jahad Campbell looked last night. And as you watched the film, was it as impressive? as it looked on the TV copy. Yeah, the way that I would describe the Jihad Campbell view last night from this morning from last night was that the flashes were outstanding. And even like if you look at the lows, like the lows aren't very low.

It's like, oh man, he's a half step mentally. And you could see that he's like, all right, he's the last guy to react when he should. Even on those plays, like, yeah, once he sees this in like three, four, five weeks, he's going to be awesome. It's, it's real, I was really, really excited by that. A lot of the indecision was the downhill stuff in the run game, you know, just kind of working through traffic, you know, navigating the box. But in terms of like playing in space, I mean, we saw the PBU, which we can get into.

I've got some screen grabs from that. But, man, it was, it was very, very exciting. There was, and honestly, the other play where I would say, like, from a coverage standpoint, or I was like, oh, man, like, in a few weeks, he might be able to make this play. Bo, you know that there is nothing I like more than a defender in the middle of the field that's able to take away a backside dig. And the one drop that CD Lamb had where like Dak put it right on his face mask and it went right through his hands.

Jahad Campbell was on the opposite hash mark. And you could see he takes a peek at it. And it's like he had to do like a like a double triple take to make sure that he was like confident with what he was seeing. Right. In a few weeks like I, I'm hoping he makes a play on a play like where I can immediately just go back and grab that play and pair with it because that's one where I'm like, yeah, in a few weeks he's going to see this again and he's going to make a play on this ball

that's awesome that's great i love that i love how excited here go ahead e j it's just exciting because like he's playing next to zach bonn and you know zach bonn after the game was talking about how you know excited he was for jihad campbell he said that he told the jihad campbell he wasn't allowed to wear white laces with his cleats until uh he you know you really proved himself in the league and i just like that partnership the upside is so ridiculous you know because you know Fran talking about some of these things at Jahad Campbell, maybe it won't recognize yet, but as he gets more comfortable in the scheme, like having Zach Bond next to him, you know, not only in the meeting room, but also on the field,

I feel like that is really going to accelerate how quickly he's going to get to some of that stuff. You know, I don't know if you guys saw the America's game documentary where Zach Bond was talking about the bucket list of interceptions he has schematically, like, you know, stealing the backside dig, you know, hitting like, you know, stealing the crosser in certain coverages. like he feels like the perfect player to pair with somebody like Jahad Campbell because if you can get that mental side of his game a little bit further along, you know, his range, the athleticism he has, like, man, it really is crazy. Like we've talked a lot about this linebacker core, how different it is for the Eagles to have that talent. But I mean, really like to pair those two guys together, it really does kind of lock down the middle of the field in a way that I don't even know if I really, it's even more than I would have anticipated honestly. Well, let's get into it, Fran.

Yeah, let's take a look. So, Julie, if you want to go to Tampa 1, so basically what we're going to see here is a coverage that the Eagles actually played a handful of times in this game. And I thought it was notable because they barely played cover 2. It was like one of the lowest rates in the entire league last year. And this is a version of cover 2 that it's called Tampa 2. And when you play Tampa 2, you need a defender that's going to run the run the shoot, run the pole in the middle of the field. And so right now the Eagles are in their nickel personnel. Julie, if you want to go to the next shot here, again, the Tampa 2, what that looks like,

you've got the two deep safeties, and then you've got five defenders underneath. The Eagles actually drop a defensive line at one of the edge rushers out in this place, so it's actually six guys underneath. But typically, you're going to have two corners in the flats. You're going to have two defenders in like that hook curl area between the numbers and the hash marks. And then you're going to have a linebacker running between the hash marks. And that guy's going to be responsible for covering a lot of ground.

And honestly, Julia, if you go to the next shot, you can see that's the, That's like one of the sore spots in cover two. One of the weak spots in this zone coverage is you've got that soft spot between the safeties down the middle of the field. And you want to try and see if you can attack a linebacker in space, whether that's with a receiver, with an athletic tight end, whatever that is. You want to try and see if you could take advantage of that matchup.

And here on this play, you could see that you've got the linebacker running down the seam in the red zone. That's Zach Bond. And he's running down the seam here on this play. And Julia, if you want to go to the next shot here, you can see now he gets. the PBA. So just shy of the goal line. Zach Bond, great job in Tampa 2, running the pole and getting the ball on the ground. A few plays earlier than this, Julie, if you want to go to the next one,

you get to see the exact same situation here. This time, the Eagles are in base defense, and it's Jihad Campbell that is running the middle of field in Tampa 2, and he's running against the tight end here down the seam, and he does a great job of matching this route. He uses his length, he uses athleticism. Julia, you go to the next snap. and he's able to get the ball on the ground. So he covered a ton of area. You see the length there show up. You saw the ball skills,

just the outstanding job there from Jehad Campbell. The fact that Vic Fangio has both of these guys, because look, Zach Vaughn made play, like numerous plays last year. Several. You talk about like that, the bucket list in terms of interceptions

that he was able to make last year, E.J. I think we were looking at Bond, like some of the plays he made last year. That interception he had against Jacksonville stands out. Like, they're not a lot of line back. that can make that play. I think that Campbell is one of those guys that can also do all of these things. And so to have two of those guys on the field, there's an interchangeability between the two of

them that I think it's going to be invaluable for Vic Fangio. It's going to be really fun to watch that kind of work itself out over the next several weeks. I can just like see it now, like, you know, all the the tacticos, you know, not Fran. Fran is not a tactical. He is elevated beyond that. But I can see those guys like talking, oh, you know, Fangio is popularized, the Tampa two. again, he's bringing it back.

And then all of a sudden, you know, you see these defensive coordinators trying to copy it, but they don't have Zach Baum. They don't have Jihad Campbell. They don't have those rangy linebackers to run the pole. Is that the, am I using the expression correctly? On the shoot? Yeah. I'll say the shoot.

I never, I never, I never, I prefer the shoot. Yeah, okay. Yeah, run the shoot. Okay, that's a little bit. That's like a not as, not as dangerous with a co-host like Beau. I mean, there are ways with that one as well. But I will say, listen, like, you know, Jalen Carter gets tossed from this game and like, okay, who's going to be the best player on the defense?

Oh, maybe it'll be Quinnion Mitchell. Maybe he's going to lock down one of the guys on the outside. And I thought Quineon was just good in this game. Maybe you can tell us a little bit more. But Zach Bonn felt like the best player on the field when he was on it, like, just from watching. It's not just that one when he ran the shoot. You know, the chase down of Miles Sanders was insane. I mean, yeah.

And like a game saving play to some degree. There's other side-to-side plays. What else did you see from Zach Bond? Yeah, I mean, you just saw a lot of the things that we saw a year ago in terms of his ferocity downhill, how fast he plays, the amount of ground he covers. There was a play early on here. Hold on one sec. I've got it in my notes here, where he did an outstanding job of just feeling the

crosser. All right, yeah, here it is. So, but, but, blah, blah, blah, blah, yeah. So it was actually, we showed, I showed the play earlier was the rush from Jordan Davis, where he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, feels the crosser. He feels CD lamp coming from the opposite side. He takes the throw away like multiple different times. But you had Jordan Davis couldn't quite finish for the sack. And then a Joe Mo got home and he couldn't quite get him down to the ground. So Dacks rolling left, rolling left. And Bonn just kind of ran out of time.

Cedie crosses his face and he was able to, he's able to make the play. So I think when you're looking at Bond, like his spatial awareness is special. Like it's unique at the linebacker position in today's NFL. A quick note on the chase down of Miles Sanders, which I mean, tough. really tough for Miles Sanders, you know, just just a tough game in a lot of aspects. But next gen stats clocked him at 20.68 miles per hour to chase him down. Miles Sanders was at 19.29 miles per hour. So, yeah, I mean, and again, they forced to turn over a few plays later. Really was like one of the, I mean, maybe I would actually call it like one of the underrated

plays of that game in terms of saving the Eagles defense there. Byron Young forced the turnover. No doubt. Not that. You know, let's get into this. You know, I want to hear about Adory Jackson, but at some point, I got to take a whiff, okay? When you said Byron Young earlier, I actually had to frantically check to make sure that our good friend NFL Jesus, our savior, did not change the official record. Not yet.

Not yet, but it still is Jahad Campbell's. And if it is Jahad Campbell's. Typically, one of those stat changes come by, like usually like Monday, Tuesday? Yeah, I would think so. Yeah. see if this holds up I'm going to hold off on the whiff I don't feel great about it

but the temptation to just start puffing my chest out here is it's tough you know I because you know we'll wait I'll hold it you were going to get those Ben Van Sumer in snaps oh I felt honestly

my first swooper you guys might need to be on notice that's all I'll say Oh, man, here we go. Look, if the, if the, because I can say the same thing, if this weather delay doesn't happen, the Eagles are scoring 32 points. And I feel pretty good about it. But that's a bigger if, you know.

I was explaining it to my wife. Shout out to my wife, Julia, by the way, because I, uh, I threw under the bus in the pre-game. It's not great. So shout out to her. I was explaining the rules of swooper at her. And I was like, you know, I almost got all four. There was a real world where I got all four of my, my, my selections here, you know, Swipper.

Easy game. What a fascinating thing for her to hear about? Oh, she was locked in. She's a big fan of the show. I can't say anything mean about my wife on this show for a while. She is not the biggest fan of me throwing her under the bus. Good, nor should she be. All right, let's talk corners.

Because last night it certainly felt like Godori Jackson was a disaster, Fran. And you are telling us that we need to cool our jets just a little bit. Yeah, I actually, look, a couple of the plays were play. I mean, I broke the one down. That's why I didn't bring those screen grabs to this one because I just did it in the post game show last night. If you didn't watch the post game show, go make sure you watch it. We broke down a couple of plays.

And one of them was the 18 yard completion to CD Lamb on the opening drive on third and one. To me, like that's a, that's a scheme to play that I think like any corner is going to basically give that one up. You know, you had a tight formation, heavy personnel, third and short, play action. he bit hard uh not even like super hard like just bit harder than as hard as it needed to be and it was a great route by cd lamb on top of it so he gave up separation on that one that was it a was it a good performance no was it a solid performance no like it was it wasn't bad or it wasn't good but i think a lot of people like oh he's definitely he doesn't have it like move on get him get him out of

here like i don't want to see anymore i don't think it was that bad now the element that we don't know and that would, to me, would make it a, like, you know, quote unquote, like a fireable offense, right? Right. Right now you're going to send him to the bench would be like, you know, because there were a lot of situations where, hey, it's third and four, and he's giving 10 yards a cushion at the line of scrimmage, right? And it's like, okay, a lot of that can be left up to the DB with suggestions from the coaches. Like, hey, we need you to play at this depth with this distance on this given play. He already had given up a player or two down the field to C.D. Lambs.

So he may have felt, hey, you know what, like, I'm going to play this. a little bit more conservatively. So if the coaches had told him like, hey, we want you to play at this depth and he's going against that. Or if it was like, hey, against this kind of formation in this situation, this is what they want to do. We're going to talk about this. We're going to rep it.

And then it came up in the game and you didn't do it the way that we practiced it. That's the, those are the things where it's like, all right, like, you know, then maybe you think about making a change. But that's how I didn't think that it was like, oh, like a complete disaster. Watch him. He got beat by CD Lamb on a couple of plays. You know, and I think at the end of the day, that's kind of to be expected from Adory Jackson at this point in his career.

That kind of is. Yeah, and Quina Mitchell got beat a few times by CD2 to be fair. Yeah. Well, a couple things. First of all, what you're talking about, what is your understanding of the way that Vic Fangio and Christian Parker teach that? Are they prescriptive about where they want guys to be or do they give guys leeway? I think that they typically give guys leeway as my understanding.

And then, you know, it was a, because remember that Tampa Bay game last year. Of course. They ran all over. It was a huge, huge cushion. And they came back the next game. And everything was a lot tighter from that point on. So again, like we saw that was an issue early on in the season last year. They came back.

They adjusted and they moved on. It could very easily be a situation like that. I've seen in the chat, people are bringing up the, the attempt at the tackle, you know, in the long head. That one to me is one where it's going to be tough in the team room. Yeah. I mean, that was a bad, that was a bad rep. uh you know now like i also don't i think that was just a that was a bad rep and i think people confuse

like bad reps with like oh like he's really soft like turning it down you know like i don't think that that's like oh man like he can't play in this defense uh kind of thing i'm also seeing uh i'm apologizing for for uh adore because i don't like georgian bennett i don't have a dog in the race like i'm calling it like i see it to me like uh yeah it will be interested in track and see you know what their decision is. Vic Fangio said last week that he's got a long leash. So we'll see. Yeah, I wanted to ask you about those seven snaps that

Jacori and Bennett played in the defense that, you know, Adori Jackson went out with a concussion evaluation and he was cleared. But it did look like they just gave Jacori and Bennett the series because Adori Jackson was on the sideline with his helmet on. So I'm curious to hear what you thought about those seven snaps from Jacorian Bennett. Obviously, the Cowboys kind of picked on him a little bit when he got out there. But to me, in the moment, it didn't seem like he was. was giving up too much in those scenarios. No, he gave up, he gave up a slant, let's see,

so he gave up a slant to C.D. Lamb on the one. He gave up a catch to Jake Ferguson on another. That was in a cover six kind of situation. It was the one thing that was interesting really quickly about the cornerback usage. So Cooper DeGine was the cornerback two in base, but so we're talking just purely nickel and dime right now. Basically what you saw was that Quinnian Mitchell in the first half was always on George Pickens side and then CD or and then Adory Jackson or whoever the other corner was was always on the opposite side, which was typically the CD Lamb side. Cooper DeGine always matched up the CD Lamb when he was in the slot. What was interesting was in the second half, they kind of they flipped it around where most of the

time now Quignon Mitchell was on the CD Lamb side and they were fine leaving Adory Jackson on the George Pickens side. I don't know what the why is for that. I thought that that was interesting though. I'll be interested to kind of hear if Vic Fangio's asked about that this week. It did not feel like they went out of their way to like give extra help to our Dori Jackson on every single play. Like they were not at all, they were. The players confirmed right. Yeah. They were there was yeah. It was not that they did not give Quinnian Mitchell help at all. So that now that's what that gets into our discussion that we had all summer of how, you know, how they could potentially use those guys. But it's so it's not like they they didn't show preferential

treatment to either. They definitely gave more. help to Adore, but it wasn't like, oh, man, every third down, make sure you have to a side of safety help to a number eight side. That was not how they acted over the course of the game. Yeah, I asked Adore Jackson about if they were, if the plan was to have Quinyan shadow pickens so they could shade the coverage the opposite way towards C.D. Lam, and he said that wasn't the plan. And then I asked Quinean Mitchell, like, what was the thought behind you traveling with Pickens instead of C.D? Was it because C.D, you know, spent so much time in the slot. And he really didn't, you know, he didn't offer much. He just said that they told me

that Pickens was my assignment and that was kind of just the end of it. So, I mean, maybe he's not divulging the full plan there, but I did find it interesting that they wanted him matched up against Pickens if they weren't going to send more help toward Adori Jackson. Yeah. I wondered if it was like, all right, you know, it's such a size disadvantage for Dorie Jackson against George Pickens that we just kind of want to avoid that.

But the fact that they were okay doing it in the second half, I thought that was interesting. Yeah, I feel like, you know, having to change your game plan to really cover for the guy who's a weakness is kind of self-defeating if you're choosing the guy who is supposed to be the reliable veteran, right? Whereas if you were going to say, we're going to give Kili Ringo his lumps, we want him to develop, this is in service of him getting better, then maybe you would do that because you're trying to help his development. But the whole reason for choosing Dory Jackson is because you're just hoping to get some baseline competency. But that, then again,

like just having him be the guy on CD Lamb did seem like kind of a not. decision. Yeah, it's, again, you know, I go back to like even like week two last year against Atlanta. We were panicking. I was panicking on here because it was like Zach, Zach Bond, it was on the ground, seven or eight times. He can't defeat a cut block. He can't get all. You can't defeat a cut block.

What are they going to do here? They got to make a change. You know, like we got to allow things, allow the coaching to take hold. There's going to be adjustments that are made. The adjustment might be, Jacorian Bennett. The adjustment might be, Keating Ringo. The adjustment might be trade for Greg Newsom or Denzel Ward from the Brown. You know, whatever.

Like there could be adjust. There's going to be adjustments here. But I would say, let that play out. I just didn't think that it was like, oh, man, you got to give him the hook already. Did you, did you agree with his self-evaluation? He gave himself a C for the performance? Yeah, that's kind of how I viewed it, honestly. I didn't even see that quote.

I would say it was probably a C performance from Adore Jackson as opposed to what F. Yeah, he was getting killed on social media. for his upgrade. But yeah, now this is why the context is important watching the film. And what did he say, E.J? Oh, he said Cs get degrees and listen, I completely agree. I

could, if I could flip my computer around, I could show you a degree that was acquired via C's. So, listen, he's a man after my own heart with that one. I was like, amen, brother. I do think that is true, but he probably shouldn't use that

too often. C's get degrees. I cannot imagine. It's an undeniable fact. That Vic Fangio would hate to C's get degrees. That's a good point. Yeah, Vic is probably looking for better than a C. But, okay.

I mean, I don't think most people, instant reaction off that game, we're not giving him a C. So I think this is an important context to add. All right. We've got to take a break. Hear from some sponsors. On the other side, we're going to flip it to the offense. Although I do want to have a bit of a Dack Prescott discussion about this game

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and really the only ball he threw downfield, Fran, because this is our forward drive of the game. And this was, of course, at the end of the first half, it's third and medium. The Eagles have to keep pace with the Cowboys who have been just dominating the Eagles defense. And Jalen Hertz throws the ball downfield, not to AJ Brown, not to DeBante Smith, but dropping it in the bucket to Johan Dotson.

Yeah, it's a beautiful ball, great design. And actually, I was really interested because the Eagles called a play that was perfect for the coverage that they were seeing on the play. And we can get into it here from Julia. So Julia, this is the Dotson play one. So basically, this is a play that I know as Topper. So it's double post. So you've got two posts there at the bottom of the screen. You've got that deep in-cut from Dallas Godder on the opposite side, the top of the screen.

This was a big-time throw from Jalen. And the reason why it was a perfect play call for this coverage, we can get into what the coverage call was in the next shot here, Julia. Basically, this is cover four. It's quarters coverage. And if you're going to play quarters coverage, one of the areas that teams can try to attack, even though people think of quarters and cover four is like, oh, you've got four deep defenders.

The entire deep part of the field is covered. Well, if you can manipulate those safeties and occupy their eyes, well, now you can hit them over the top. You can get those guys moved from the middle of the field, and now the middle of the field is wide open. So the Eagles do a really good job here of occupying both of these safeties with those routes from Dallas Goddard and from Devante Smith. So, Julie, if you go to the next shot here,

you can see that you're going to get that post first from Devante Smith at the bottom. His job with that post, he has to win inside. He can't get rerouted by the slot corner. He did a good job of avoiding contact there. And then he has to make sure no matter what that he takes that safety that's on the hash mark, that's right at the 40 yard line, he has got to take his eyes and take him towards the top of the screen away from Jahan Dotson and Dallas Goddard. He just all he has to do is make sure that he gets up on that safety fast enough that that safety gets locked in on him. Basically, you get into his area and now it's like your, your magnetic pool, your gravity is going to suck him in.

And now there's nobody over the top. And so now, Julia, we get to the next shot here. Hold on. Hold on. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to cut you off. Can we go back to that one very quickly? Yeah. Is AJ Brown pointing like throw the ball there? Oh, hold on one second. I mean, uh, let me blow this up on my screen.

Bap, but, but ba, ba. I can try and pull up the, uh, the actual video to watch to confirm. Yeah, he actually is. Hold on. Let me see if I can pull. Let me pull the video really quickly. This is outstanding. Give me one second. Dots and dots. Dotson, Dotson, here it is. All right, I'm just watching it on my computer really fast.

Yeah, oh, he points to it immediately. Very cool. Oh, you know what? Actually, hold on. It's actually not a point. He, now I'm going to want to watch this from like multiple angles. Okay, okay.

I can't tell, I don't think it's a point. I think he's just doing something like emphatically to make sure that he holds the underneath coverage because, so AJ's role in this play is if the, basically if the ball does not go to Jahan Dotson, this ball is going to go to Dallas Goddard on the deep in cut. And it's AJ's job to make sure you can see that defender that's right there like in front of AJ.

He's got to remove that defender from the middle of the field. So I think that that arm action there is actually something just to make sure he's grabbing that guy's attention to just remove him from the middle. I'm going to watch that from the end zone. I might get a better look at his hand to see if he's pointing at Jahan or not. That's a good call on. I'm going to see if I can pull up as well. But yeah.

So now you can see like. Like, all right, Devante did his job. The safety's got eyes on him. Dallas sucked in the safety on the opposite side. So now it's a one-on-one matchup. It's essentially one-on-one, essentially man-to-man coverage. And Jihad Dotson wins on the top of the route. The fact that you've got those safeties occupied in the middle of the field,

now you've got that entire green grass. So much area for Jalen to lay this ball out. And it just gives him a wider margin of error for him to make this throw. And it's a great job by Jailen. It's a great route by Jihad Dotson. Dotson comes through, makes the catch. There's a big time play, 51 yards, longest play of the day for the Eagles and, you know, sets them up for points there late in the first half.

Two things to add there. Jalen Hertz said after the game that he didn't think that Jahan Dotson had vision of the ball until the very last second. He said, you know, Jahan Dotson did a really good job tracking it late, you know, to be able to pull it in. And then the other thing that just stands out watching this playback is like, A, the fact that Jalen trusts it. Like, it was a really good screen grab by you,

because like you see when jalen's releasing that ball like there is a safety in the middle of the field he's trusting that that window is going to open after the throw and the fact that he's doing that with johan dots and just really stands out as a massive difference from last season we saw them building chemistry during camp we saw timing and anticipation throws between the two of them and yeah for it to show up in the first game i think is just a really big like i said it really stands out as a contrast from what we saw from the two of them last year when johan dots we got to the Eagle so late. I agree. All right. So I have seen the play now. He is not pointing. And it's actually, I kind of have a different takeaway, which is that he's kind of like using his arms to stop.

It only makes me think that he's hurt. Yeah. That crossed my mind, too. When you, as soon as I saw you make that phase, it was for balance. Yeah. That's a, you know who he used to do that a lot when he was running? It was DeMarco Murray. When DeMarco Murray would like try to like make a lateral.

cut. He would often like use that hand to kind of keep his balance. Yeah, I'm a little bit worried about AJ. We'll get to that. But of course, this play was this play was enormous. And then they go down and score five plays later, Sequin Barclay gets his touchdown. And nobody would have thought at the time that it was the last touchdown of the game, but a huge play from Jalen Hertz and John Dodson. Yeah, I almost put the the Barkley touchdown in. That was an extremely well blocked up front. The double teams were great. Jordan Milata and Landon Dickerson's a great job. on the back side. And then Devante Smith came and dug out the safety as well just to help spring Sequin. And it was a hard run for Sequan between the tackles. It was well executed across the board.

All right. That'll do it for the forward drive of the game. And now I think we can sort of steer our conversation toward Jalen Hertz and what you thought of this performance, Fran. Let's flash up the performance from Jalen Hertz here in this game. 14 rushes for 62 yards and two touchdowns. 19 for 23 for 152 yards and a 94.2 quarterback ran. And you see on there that the success rate, 60.5, that's very good for him. Only 3% negative plays. He was sacked once. That is almost as good as he's ever.

There's only been one game in his career where we had fewer negative plays and then a 0.26 EPA for dropback. The scrambles, Fran, was the big takeaway, especially in the first half. So nine scrambles for 63 yards and five first staff. That's the most scramble yards he's had in a game since 2022 and tied for the most first downs he's ever had from scrambles. And I thought it was particularly interesting. And maybe we'll get into the adjustments that Matt Everflus made that eight of those nine scrambles were like, we think about Jalen as a scrambler as like that can be their blitz answer. Eight of those nine scrambles were just against four man rushes where he was just like he was reading the defense. He was kind of being patient and then figuring where the space was.

it wasn't just like, oh, I got to get out of here. It was kind of like, my read's not there. I'm going to be a little bit patient and then make something happen. Yeah, it was, so Daniz actually tweeted this morning and posted on social media as well over on blue sky. Of Jalen Hertz, 33 dropbacks first Dallas, 13 of them resulted in a non-target. So nine scrambles, three throwaways and a sack. Hertz led the NFL and non-target rate at 24% last year. So 33% well past that mark.

But the scrambles were all, they all seem to be great decisions. and basically won the game, curious if this pattern continues. And that's the thing. So like, and we talked about this last night on the postgame show was it felt like on TV and it felt like there was mirrored by a lot of people that were in attendance of the game was that, yeah, like the scrambles were good scrambles. They were good decisions. It's not like, oh, he left throws on the field.

And why didn't he throw this? What's with this turn down or that turned down? I thought that Jalen made, and honestly, that the film backed this up today. I thought that he did everything that he was asked to do within the scope of the offense and those play calls. So I thought a lot of those turn downs were good turn downs, a good decision to not cut loose on the throw. And then he would get back and it was like,

oh, the other route's not open either. Good coverage by Dallas or maybe the receiver slipped or something along those lines. And that's all right, get out of Dodge, make a play. And that's exactly what he did. I thought there was a really efficient day. It's honestly, I was thinking about this because I unfortunately threaded the needle in a perfectly, in a perfect way to not hit either of my swoopers where Jalen Hertz did not attempt 30 passes and Sequin did not rush for 100 yards.

I figured between the two of them, I'm going to get one of those. Didn't get either. And honestly, it was when I look at both of those guys' performances, it wasn't explosive. It was just a workman-like, like, yeah, like very efficient, get the job done, like move on. Both guys looked good, just not like overly explosive or effective over the course of the entire game. We talked about it on the postgame show, but I do feel like, you know, when we're watching the All-22 after afterwards, it's easy to lose sight of like what was happening in the game on the field. And I really do like, I think he gets a ton of credit for steadying the ship after the way that

that game started. Like, you know, I don't want to engage with the national Jalen Hertz discourse every week because it is exhausting. And I find it kind of baffling that after this game, all I'm seeing on my timeline is, man, Dak Prescott is so awesome. It's so great to have him back. Like, that's not the game that I mean, DAC was very good in this game. Dak was really good.

Yes. Jack was very good in this game. My takeaway from his game was like, man, thank God the Eagles have Jailant Hertz. Because he's, is he on a down in, down out basis as good as, you know, Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow or Gino Smith? Obviously not. But like, I don't know that all of those guys are like, okay, our best guy has just got thrown out of the game. Our defense is getting run over. and I am like absolutely as cool as a cucumber and we are going to be we are just going to be totally fine.

And I think I think that stuff matters. Yeah, I mean, we spent we spent so much of the offseason talking about is Jalen Hertz a quarterback that affects winning or is he a product of his environment. I wrote this in the early bird. Like this game was really the offense came down to Jalen Hertz's individual brilliance against the Cowboys. Like it was down to the fact that out of structure, the stuff that he could create, the times where he could make them right when they were wrong. You know, after the game, Nick Siriani and Jalen Hertz talked about Matt Iberflue's having a really good match coverage system to take away a lot of what they had downfield,

a lot of, again, like matching their route concepts. So it really did come down to him as a scrambler and him being able to create out of structure. And that is what he offers to them, you know, and I think we can have a broader discussion about how an offense, this talented doesn't create as much in structure. but the reality is like Jalen Hertz made them right and they don't win the game without the decision making and the plays out of structure with his legs. So again, he does affect winning. He just proved it, you know, on a big stage. And I don't necessarily think that he ever does really get that credit, you know, both his contributions in the run game. And again, the scrambling in the passing game. So yeah, I think it is an important thing to point out because of that discourse. Like, you know, I don't think that, you know, Eagles fans necessarily need to hear like, oh, they wouldn't have won the game without Jalen Hertz. but we just spent so much time this off season talking about, oh, well, it's everybody else it creates for him. It's like, no, he created it for himself and for others.

You know, Anthony called him the point guard. You know, I think that was a good analogy for what he was for the Eagles in this game. I mean, he was accuracy-wise, he was perfect in this game, right? He had four in completions, three of them were throwaways and one of them was a drop. Like, you know, let's not just take that away. Now, all of that said, the offense stalled in the second half friend. What did you see? I'm going to ask you this question now, and then you can answer it in Bovertime.

But what kind of adjustments did Matt Eberclos make? You're going to have to tune into Boebertime to find out the answer. Boe. I think actually because we're remote, we don't get the Bovertime graphics. So this is just a classic overtime. It's classic overtime. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, it was a heavy dose of zone coverage, like we talked about.

I mean, they got what they expected from that standpoint. I thought that the Dallas secondary performed pretty well in terms of being able to just match routes, read routes, take things away. They were aggressive from a press man from a press coverage standpoint on the perimeter. And it was to me, like, again, it wasn't anything where when I looked at Jalen, because I will say, like that's been part of the discourse nationally. I've had like TV and like podcasts on in the background as I was buzzing through film this morning was, oh, like, you know, only, only X amount of targets went to wide.

like Jalen Hertz like up to his old stuff again and it's like well no like I thought again he was pretty good overall in the game I thought it was a good Jalen Hertz game and so yeah I think that overall this is this is going to be it's going to be it's going to be it's I think the people that watch the film on this one I think will come away more impressed than if you just look at the box score from Jalen now Fran I wanted to ask you I was listening to Baldi on with Anthony earlier today and he was talking about specifically the uptick and blitzes that Jalen Hertz faced in the second half. I went through them, but I want to hear your thoughts on how Jalen handled the blitz, both like setting the protections.

And to me, it seemed like there were a few times where the Cowboys got corners on free rushers. And fortunately for the Eagles, like getting a corner on a free rusher is not necessarily as valuable against Jalen Hertz as it is for most quarterbacks because he can make those guys miss or he can kind of bounce off of those guys. but what did you think both from a protection standpoint and also how Jalen, you know, was able to get to his hot routes against the blitz. Yeah, the one was that like completely definitely caught them off guard was the, the corner blitz from Trayvon Diggs.

And Jalen was able to wiggle out of that and throw it incomplete or throw the ball away. I think he could have been called for grounding on that one. I was, I wonder why that wasn't grounding in the moment. I thought that was, yeah, I was interested in that one. But yeah, you know, I think that, yeah, he got caught once or twice. We know about the sack. I thought that Neeland just had a really good rush on that one in terms of just kind of get into the backfield and was able to chase Jalen down from behind. It was a bunch of one-on-ones across the board because of the Blitz on that play.

So, yeah, they turned the pressure up a little bit more in the second half. I would say that was probably the biggest adjustment. They didn't do any huge changes from a coverage standpoint. We can get into the AJ Brown of it all as well. But I think that, yeah, that would probably be the biggest adjustment that I saw from Dallas is in. Yeah, there was one blitz where I thought AJ, you know, it looked like he was open on a curl route and Jalen just wasn't there in his progression quickly enough to get it to him. I think it was a second blitz that he faced. But yeah, in general, I don't know.

It's something that will be important against the chiefs. So it's something I think we should have our eye on is like, do they have answers against these types of things? Because to me, it didn't seem like there was like really necessarily like a sophisticated like this is where he's going with the ball against pressure. And that's always been a question the last few years with him. But again, I mean, PFF had him three for four against the blitz for 17 yards. So, you know, kind of like not necessarily amazing, but not like a red flag per se. He only faced six blitzes in the game. Small sample, yeah.

Yeah. The small sample. The success rate against the blitz was 35 percent, two for six, which was only better or only one game from last season was worse than that for the Eagles. But it is, it's a small sample. And that was a second half adjustment. So we'll see what they put together of the next week plus for spags. Anyway, you're going into spags. I mean, that's like a you are expecting blitz.

You are expecting unscouted looks. Like, you know, that has not been a part of Iberflus's profile over the course of his career. Okay. Let's talk about AJ. As you would expect, this was the lowest target rate of his NFL career. playoffs included targeted once on just 32 routes that's 3.1% his previous low in a game with the Eagles was 12.5% so that is obviously drastically cutting it when I was watching friend there there weren't a ton of times where I was like oh the ball should go to AJ here or even the ball

was designed to go to AJ here yeah yeah I mean look there were plenty of games where we did this show last year on Mondays on days after games and it was Like, yep, that's a turn down from Jalen Hertz. I'm not sure why Jalen didn't throw that ball. That was not the case watching the film this morning from last night when I went back and looked at all right, here's a play that they dialed up for AJ and I get why Jalen didn't throw the ball. So I pulled a few.

Julie, if you want to go to the first one, we'll go to A.J. Clip one here. This is a play. It's third and three in the second quarter. This is the first one where I felt like, all right, like A.J. first in the progression. Like I'm pretty sure this is the second drive. It's not it's the third drive. he's the ex-iso top of the screen.

And he's purposely, to me, I actually didn't even think that he was thinking about going to AJ here. I think that he is manipulating the Dallas defense on this one personally. Because what we then see, Julie, if you go to the next one, is that he comes back to Dallas Goddard in the middle of the field here. And you can see by Jalen having his eyes to the far left, you get the expansion of those linebackers. And that really widens the hole there for Dallas Goddard in the middle of the field.

And he hits Dallas. for first down on third and three. You go two plays later, we'll go to the next shot here. Two plays later at second and nine, and this one is going to be an in-cut. This one, I think he definitely did want A.J. Brown on this play. It's going to be a quick, in-breaking route. We've seen A.J. run this route 100 times in this offense.

This is the first one we're watching. I'm like, I don't know if he's got the same level of juice, like off the ball to kind of threaten these defenders, that threaten these defensive backs early in the down. So we see A.J. come off the ball. Let's go to the next shot. here. AJ's pushing vertically.

This DB just reads this really well. Now, you can get into this and say, because we talked about this last year, maybe, you know, maybe they're a little too predictable or maybe it was a lot of the year before we had this conversation as well with the Seagull's passing. I was like, oh, like they run the same routes over and over and now DBs are keying off on them. Or it's just like, all right, well, if you are, if you're facing a receiver and the receiver is not going at the speed, the 100% speed that you're expecting, he can be a little

bit easier to predict because the movements are happening a little bit slower, right? And so I think this, I think the safety, Donovan Wilson did a great job of keying this route. And Jalen is ready to make this throw. And it's a good thing he doesn't because you go to the next shot here. If Jalen pulls the trigger on this throw, this is getting picked off. That is going to be intercepted by Donovan Wilson on the, on the hash mark. So Jalen does not throw this ball. And he ends up running nine yards, Jalen, for first down on second and nine. Let's go to the next play here. The next one is, third quarter, and it's going to be a slant route. Top of the screen, he's going to run a quick slant.

It's second and five. Let's go to the next shot. And you can see that the linebackers, they're following Jaylen's eyes. It's cover two. So you got a bunch of guys underneath. Maris Lufal, the second year linebacker with the hair coming down the back of his jersey. That's who's there is going to get underneath this pass lane. I just didn't.

There wasn't like a ton of like juice from AJ like coming off the ball. And that's the other part of it too, is that. is it a timing issue with he and Jalen? They haven't been working together over the last few weeks just because AJ has missed so much practice time. So I don't want to get into that dynamic because no one knows except those guys from that standpoint. But I thought that was a good decision.

Like, all right, yeah, don't throw it. You've got defenders in the underneath window. Julia, you can go to the next one here. He ends up finding Dallas Goddard on a shallow crossing route. So this essentially becomes a high low on Maris Lufal, the linebacker there on the hash mark. Jalen hits Dallas Goddard and he goes and he runs for a first down on second and five. Nice quarterbacking from Jalen Hertz here on this play.

It doesn't force it to AJ checks down to Dallas on the run and he hits him for a first down. Let's go to the fourth quarter. So this is going to be the next one here that stood out to me. It's a four by one set now from the Eagles. It's the first play of this possession in the first quarter or in the fourth quarter. It's an ISO slant against press man coverage at the top of the screen. So we go to the next shot here and, You're going to get contact.

It's press coverage and AJ's trying to fight through this contact. Jalen is thinking that he wants to be able to deliver this football. He wants it. He wants to be able to pull the trigger here. This is not usually. Yeah, this is exactly right. This is usually their bread and butter. Go to the next shot, Julia.

And you can see like, all right, by the time AJ shakes free, there's a linebacker there in the area, Jalen, if he, I get why he doesn't throw this one. Because this could be an easy pick six for the linebacker to jump this route and take it the other way. So Jalen doesn't throw. throw it. And he ends up checking down. He goes all the way over to the other side of the field. You can see that Sequan Barkley's all by his lonesome there on the like the 17 yard line. He hits Seekan Barkley there and Seacquan goes for eight yards. So that's the last one here from AJ.

And so look at the end of the day when I'm watching him, I didn't see like the A.J. Brown like like verticality and explosiveness that we've come to expect. There was one play where he was like kind of a complimentary route in like a high low situation and he's running at the safety in the middle of the field. And you can just tell, like, the safety just, like, was not moved by, by, by, by A.J., you know, pushing up vertically on him. So now the question becomes like, okay, is this a one week thing? And they know that he's not 100%, but maybe he's like 85 and he, and he's just kind of gearing back up. Is it something, is it a sign of like something bigger? Like, I don't know. But from what I saw last night, to me, like, that didn't look like A.J. Brown from a from a physical, like, explosiveness, what we've come to expect from him standpoint. you hope that looks different next week against Kansas City. And it's interesting because you would think that if AJ is not right,

you would still think that Devante would be a big part of the passing game then, right? And he wasn't. So that's, that makes you wonder if it's more structural or game plan specific. Right. But I'm with you. Like there was one route on the one of the first two drives where it's a deep route for AJ. And like you expect him to win. And he's like 15, 20 yards on the field and he doesn't even have a step.

And it's like, ooh, you were not used to that. But were you also surprised by the Devante low part of it in conjunction with AJ? I guess that would be the big thing. Because I would say the same thing about AJ. Like even if AJ is it, you know, I don't want to put a number on it, but let's say he's at 80%. If he's at 85%, right, you can still like manufacture. You could throw him a screen, right? Like you can like do something to make it so that it's not a thing.

that's being talked about and those guys are going to be asked about it. Because I know that like this is an organization. They are well aware of that dynamic that can exist. They know it. It's not just like, oh, PR knows it or the front office knows it. Right. The coaches know it. The players know it.

Like everybody knows it. It's not how they want to start the season. No, no, absolutely not. Now, the most important thing is winning and the fact that they were able to win and Jaylon was as efficient as he was. Like that's not as big of a deal. They are probably more well aware of, you know, any limitations. that AJ is facing, obviously, than we are.

So if they don't think that it's a big deal and they're like, yeah, he's got to play through it, he's going to be 100% by week three, all right, then you let him get through it. There are other guys in the offense where that might be a little bit of a concern from the injury standpoint. Like, let's maybe put this guy on ice a little bit. And we can talk about that. But yeah, that's, I think it's something to monitor with AJ.

I just don't think he looked like his normal self. Yeah, he really didn't look like his normal self. I want to open the possibility. that like we have he has talked before about liking to get into a rhythm early liking to get a touch early in the game and manufacture touches is exactly what i wanted to say fran it's like at some point it's like just get the ball on his hands and try and get him into a rhythm because i feel like we have seen this not for entire games this necessarily the way that it was against the cowboys but i do feel like we have seen a j kind of float through games at times when he doesn't have that involvement so i definitely think that the injury could be a factor here. But I also did want to at least gauge your guys as like how much time you'd have for that, the argument that maybe this is like he didn't get involved early. You know, he had a lot of, you know, he had a lot of clear out route duty. And all of a sudden, he's just kind of like, I don't want to say checked out, but not in rhythm. And that is maybe contributing

here too. I mean, honestly, like usually the telltale thing there is, you know, the blocking end of it. And he had a couple of nice blocks like, you know, effort plays out on the perimeter. So, yeah, now, one of them that stands out was an early play. So he wasn't like completely, it may not have, that may not have affected him as much by that point. But no, like I don't, I don't think it was that.

I could be wrong, but I don't think it was an effort thing. I think that it was, it seemed more like a physical, uh, limitation type of thing for AJ, personally. All right.

Well, let's get into the, the other person who you were hinting at there. Let's talk about the offensive snap counts here. Julia, if we can flash that up. Uh, no surprises,

majorly. here you've got the offensive lineman playing mostly 100% of the snaps a j brown 87% devante 89% dari's cooper played two snaps looked awesome on the tush pushes thought that was really exciting but the big thing here that we need to focus on is land in dickerson playing 83% in the snaps and brett toth playing the other 17% and landed leaving this game and i don't know what you think friend but but when i was watching this you know even before he left the game land in very clearly didn't look 100% to me. And I know that these guys are wired, that they want to play every game.

And like, you're going to have to, like, actually physically lock Lennon Dickerson in a room to get him to not play in a game when he's not 100%. But for a team with, like, you know, aspirations of playing into February, man, I really do feel, I'm not a doctor, but I really do feel like he and maybe even aging could just use it, use a week or two weeks off. There was, there was a play. in the second half where it was a run play. I figured if it was AJ Dylan or if it was Sequin Barkley,

but where the pile kind of got rolled up on Jordan and on Landon and both guys were slow to get up. And from that point on, Landon didn't look right. Because he was definitely like, we know, like he wasn't 100% coming in because he's dealing with the knee and then it turned it to the back. But from that point,

then he was certainly not the same. And there was a play. Actually, it might have been the sack. I think it was the sack where landed like I was like all right like I think like you know that was that was when Landon came out was after that play. And I think when you're looking at Landon, it might be a situation where we kind of have to save him from himself a little bit and say like, okay, let's let's kind of put you on ice. You would mind. And it's ironic too because of the video that the team released this week where, you know, Nolan Smith is going back and forth with, I was saying like, yeah, like I'm going to play through this toy peck. Like that's how these guys are wired, right?

And you want them to be wired. And yes, exactly. And I think in the Super Bowl, that makes a lot of sense. But you got to have the bigger picture in mind for this year. And so I thought that Landon looked fine and looked like he, it's not like he looked that bad the whole game. It wasn't until that one moment when he did get rolled up on in the second half, where it was like, there was like a couple drives there.

I'm like, oh, like he's got to come out. And then he eventually did come out. So early on, I thought it was okay. but we'll see if there's something that lasts in the week two. What do you, I mean, you've been around him, E.J. What, like, what do you, do you think there's any chance that they can convince him to sit? I, I think you, I think you guys hit it. It's like the tough, the toughness, the glorification of the toughness, I think is something that cuts both ways here.

And if he's, if he's able to play, he's going to play. And he's someone who is going to play through pretty much anything. I mean, like, I noticed it too, Frank. Like, he's grabbing at his back. And there are just stretches where it's like he can barely walk. to and from the huddle and barely get into his stance. But then, yeah, right. And it's just like, I don't know. I think save him from himself is probably the right phrasing here. But they have this, you know, this mini buy. And I think that, you know, we'll see how he looks in practice on the other

end of it. But yeah, I talked to Brett Tooth about it in the locker room after. And, you know, he's like the guy who's kind of like, is he going to go or is he not going to go? And I think even Brett Tooth knows, like, this guy's going to be back for the game. You know, it doesn't matter what it looks like a couple days beforehand. So yeah, I mean, again, it's credit to him for playing through it, but it is. It's early in the season. It might be, they might need to steal a week for him just to kind of get him a little bit more time to recover here.

But it's also, I mean, it's not just we want him to be healthier in four weeks. It's also, if you're going to be leaving every game, like, that's not great either. Like, wouldn't it be better to give Brett Tooth or whoever else a week, a full week to practice and like actually be the guy? Let's get a lot of the practice reps. I mean, Landon wasn't, he was limited early in the week. And Toh talked about, like, it was rare for him to get a couple days working with the first team. And he felt like that was important for him.

I haven't watched specifically how he looked when he was in, Fran. I don't know if you had any notes on Brett Tooth and how he performed. But he said he was pretty happy with the way he played. Again, I didn't see him on the All-22. Yeah, he was fine. I honestly didn't think that it was a bad performance. I didn't like take specific notes solely on him. but there was nothing where I watched the play.

I was like, oh, Brett Tooth got beat on that one. Oh, he got beat, got beat again. Like that wasn't an issue. Yeah, I think, I think that we'll see how he looks in practice when they get back. But I do wonder if this is like a steal a week for Landon to get the back situated. Because again, like the fact that this, it's the back end the knee now. It's just, it seems like just not a great sign going into the season. There was the one play.

It was a few plays before he came out. And it was a run to the right. So opposite side of Landon and Landon had to get up to the second level. and you could see he like got to like the linebacker level yeah and he like did like the shuffle and i was like yeah i've seen that shuffle i've been doing it for the last like three months and i'm like he got to get this guy out of the game so i was glad that i'm glad that he came out just like you know bo you mentioned that you're just even not even just like oh like super bowl aspirations and like also like the big big picture you know for landon as well

you know you've got to help the guy out a little bit yeah uh there was a there was a very funny in my you know in my two hours sleep delirium as I'm like keeping my eyes open watching the watching the film this morning and I was just I was just cracking up there's it's the jail and the jillen scramble to the left for a first down and Cowboys defense to tackle jay toya is is running after him and the way that he runs in the middle of the open field chasing out to jailen hurts it's like I said on uh on social media that it's like it reminded me of billy bob from varsity blues but like you know like the weble wobble with the short arm. This is very funny.

You just got no chance to catch, Jalen. Yeah. No, it's the reason guys are our late round picks from a physical talent standpoint. He's there for his run defense inside the tackle box. But that is, I mean, listen, you've got your, your, your, your, your tacticsos who are talking about, you know, Dak Prescott's ball handling ability. That's what I watched the film for. How does it compare to, how does it compare to the tape of me beating my nephew and race that I showed you, which is, you know, that, that footage can't see a light day. Yeah, that was, that was, I don't know how you, I don't know how you were able to put on the brakes on that one.

We just, we just coast. We just coast to a stop. It's not hard at that point. Yeah, right. It's going to slow down. Don't worry about it. A couple, couple of game plan left over things and I want to get your thoughts on, on the petulow of it all, Fran.

We saw a lot of, we lost a lot of under center, especially in the first half. First half. It felt like probably opening script stuff, but it's the high. highest percentage of under-center runs that we've seen from them that were non-tush-pushes in any game under Syriani over the past, I think since 2022, except for the Bengals game last year, which was a big Ben Van Sumeran game in the four-minute drill. So that was interesting. Devante Smith, this is the second season in a row that the Eagles have opened up in

week one, having Devante play an incredibly high percentage of his 11 personnel snaps in the slot. Seems like that was an emphasis. But that said, this was a relatively low percentage of 11 personnel for the Eagles. It felt like they wanted to go big. And, you know, losing your boy, Ben Van Suman was difficult, but they still played Kiling Grants in a bunch anyway. Do you think that that is what we will see or you think that was game plan specific?

I mean, look, they kept, we joked about it. They kept Ben Van Van Van Suman for a reason. I do think that there's an element there that they want to bring. Now, do I think that they want to be able to, they want to be able to flip that switch. Yeah, and I don't know that it just means up. Whoever the best fullback is on the street, they're going to go and bring that guy in.

My guess is that they're solid for that will be more, you know, 12 and 13 personnel. You know, that said, you know, and look, this guy has gotten better, like, as a route runner, like the kind of player he is. Like, I think that he's gotten better in key areas. But Grant Calcutara was up to his old tricks in the run game. Like, yeah, he's just not good at the point of,

attack, too much Grant Calcutera at the point of attack, especially like they want to run duo, you know, which is a downhill, like, quick hitting run, typically to the strong side of the formation where the tight ends are. And you're bringing those tight ends in close and they get lined up against defensive tackles sometimes. And Solomon Thomas gave it to Grant Calcutara, like two or three times in this game. Defensive ends gave it to Grant Calcuttaire a couple times in this game. I do think that if the Eagles do want to play this way, and I said this last year, and I still feel strongly about it, it should be a sixth offensive line-d type situation.

Like lean into what Detroit did last year, and when Buffalo has done, where it's like, hey, like, yeah, we're going to, when Ben Van Van Sumer is out there, like, you're not fooling anybody. We're probably going to be running the football.

When you're on the five-yard line, like, yeah. Come on. It doesn't need to be Grant Cacterra trying to block a 285-pound Solomon Thomas. Like that can be, you know, insert, you know, that could be Fred Johnson and you're, you'll be just fine. two things first off especially against like an iber flus defense that is going to have those two high safeties a lot of the time like dare them to change it um but fred johnson of it all i wanted to ask you something friend this is like very in the weeds but maybe this is indicative of something

fred johnson was working on the left side of jordan milata in practice during individual last week and i wasn't sure if this was like a procedural like we're just trying to get a guy in there to work on combo blocks even like you know he's maybe he has guard versatility at some point i really don't think so though so to me that felt like is this a six offensive linemen just working on it you know early in practice just to see it or do you think that there was something you know have you seen like let's get the tackle next to the left tackle on the left side just for some other reason that maybe i don't i don't know about from your lips to god's ears because it would make my monday morning is a lot more enjoyable if I didn't have to watch a handful of those Calcutera reps at the point of attack every week. I think that that would be, I think that would be the right direction for this team to go, especially with the Van Sumer and injury being as serious as it seemed. If they still want to go heavy and be able to kind of establish the run in that way, I don't think doing it out of 12 personnel is this team's bag. I just from a, you know, I just don't this is not Brent Selleck, Dallas Goddard and Zach

was like, oh, you put Earths on the side. You want to be able to have somebody that can really, you know, win more of those matchups one-on-one at the point of attack. I see the people in the chat calling for Willie Lampkin. He's still on IR. So, yeah, yeah, got to be, it would be at least a couple of weeks. But, Fran, I'll send you the video if I still have it of Fred Johnson working on the left side of Jordan Milata. Maybe we see that. Maybe we see that at some point.

No, but you know who's out there? Dylan McMahon. No. Someone jailing trusts. Jack Stoll Jack Stoll he's on the Saints practice squad Can't they find a better dirty work tight end than that We talked about it during training camp

ahead of the 53 like they could use that that profile And maybe they thought Ben Van Sumerin was that guy Maybe this opens up a window for them to just get A dirty work in line blocking tight end Because it fits so well with what they want to do At least in part offensively You made fun of my guy from Georgia Tech He made the bill's roster

though, so I forget the guy's name already. Oh, I thought these were going to be receipts. Jackson Hawes. Thank you. I like Tip Ryman. Yeah. He's in the Cardinal. The last thing on the offensive flow of this game was, which we talked about in the postgame show,

I did feel like they got a little bit too conservative at the end of the game, especially because Jilling seemed to me to be playing so well. I would have liked to put the ball in his hand a little bit more there. seeing how well the Cowboys were playing against the run. And I guess we haven't talked about Saquan on this episode, Fran. Was there anything they were doing against the run? Yeah, I think it was a lot of, honestly, it was a lot of what Dane is had brought up in the show on Wednesday, where it was, you know, you're going to show too high look at snap and then you're going to,

you know, bring those guys down late in the pre-snap phase where maybe that safety's not accounted for. But to me, like, I think more of the issue with some of those runs was that, you know, you lost a block here or there, some really good reps from, Osa Diggi Zua. Kenny Clark had a couple of nice reps against Tyler Steen. So, you know, I think when you're looking at, you know, why the run game wasn't as explosive, I think there was more just, you know, there was a misblock here, misblock there, which that happened during spurts last year as well, especially in the second half of the season.

I found it interesting that Next Gen stats had Sequin facing a stacked box on two thirds of his runs. I didn't feel like that in real time. But like you mentioned, Fran, I guess they were rolling that safety down. late in the late in the down or late pre-snap so I guess maybe that accounts for it yep do you think steam was okay yeah he was solid it wasn't he wasn't like oh man like he was great but it was I thought he was solid overall he you know you know my favorite one was um the touchdown run by sayquan that was the play so that was the play after jalen hertz got hit out of bounds by demone Clark and it should have been a penalty and it wasn't so there was

Damont Clark that hit him. Steen had Dimon Clark and tried to fit it like torqued him and tried to get him to the ground and it turned into a little bit of a scuffle after but I was like okay Steen like that was like a nice like I started. There was another one like that tomorrow. There was another one of the first where like after the whistle he was going out with

somebody. I like to see that. Give me a little more that Tyler. No question. No question. I am the best offensive lineman named Tyler on this field tonight. All right here's my last thing. The spit and the DAC part of it all.

First of all, EJ, have you heard anymore? Do you have any scuttle butt here? Are you expecting news? Do you think we're going to get a suspension? The suspension would surprise me. I haven't heard much. I was trying to get some something from the NFL today. I haven't heard back from the NFL about that yet.

But to me, like, I don't know. I think this is like speculation. I feel like the DAC spitting in his direction. I agree with that. really softens like the possibility of a suspension. I also think that Jalen Carter talking after the game. I think that, you know, obviously like that maybe does seem a little silly from an outside perspective. But I think it just having, like expressing contrition after the game probably helped his case a little bit in the eyes of the NFL. But listen, I mean, they might try to make an

example out of him. It was obviously, you know, on a big stage early in the season. So it wouldn't shock me if he got suspended. But I don't, I think that he's, I think that he's, I think. think he kind of the stuff that has come out since the ejection has probably helped his case. I and it's and it is funny like I geez without the lightning break would we have even seen would they have even shown the footage? I mean why didn't the broadcast show that footage sooner? They didn't even show us on the very end. We had we had to deal with 45 minutes of Jack Collinsworth. Yeah, don't get. I'll try not put my foot in the mouth. So here's my deck. The fact that he missed the one one game already like it was he missed a game.

already. Exactly. Time served. That was a good way to put it. Yeah. So here's my DAC take. Because the way that Dak talked about it after the game was like,

I mean, we all saw the video, dude. Like, you know. And what makes Dak such a great player is he's a liar. Right? Like he's very good at reading people. He like, he can see where the defense is supposed to be.

He can mess where with you with his eyes. He can pretend like he's going to throw there and he's going to throw there. I think that's who he is in real life. He reminds me of like, you know, the, I think we all knew a kid in like high school or whoever who was like in front of their parents. They were like, so obsequious in saying exactly what they wanted. And then like the second he's out of their sight, he's just like doing all kinds of nasty stuff. Dak is a liar. He is a phony. And I can't believe he's the man he was the man of the year this is me speaking on two hours of rest but he's a fraud as a human being he's a fraud there's a little bit of that i get it i mean remember

the the the covid uh beard pong party he's throwing like meanwhile he's like oh like he's calling all the reporters by their first names he knows he knows exactly what everybody wants to hear but beneath the beneath that he's just a d-bag very Dirtbag. Now, Fran is our resident. I mean, he walks up there and spits right in his face. He walks there to spit. I mean, it's not like, oh, you wouldn't believe how often I spit during a game.

I spent thousands of times. I mean, right. Fran, as our resident, you know, past boxing expert fighting, fighting aficionado here. If somebody spit in your direction, they give you the. Get a smile. he knows exactly what he's doing. And all fair, I mean, that's a great job by him. No question.

Yeah, I mean, that is doing. That is an A plus level field awareness move to get Jill and Carter out of the game. That is what the kids call rage bait. That is great football playing. But then don't come out and be like, oh, I don't know what I was. I don't know why he was so upset. And I had all, you know, all of us, we've all worked so hard. It's just, it's really sad to see that not all of us could go out there to be able to play.

We only get 17 of these for the fans. You only get 17. Yeah, I get it. But also A plus move by DAC from that standpoint. Yeah, totally. Yeah. But he also wasn't the best quarterback in this game. That's my other tip.

You know, if Quigionion could catch a ball, he throws a pick. Yeah, like the CD drops. But down the scene, those are not perfect throws. Like, you know, that's all. Yeah, I got it. Great quarterback. Great field awareness, phony. There you go.

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