PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - EAGLES MAILBAG: Is Nick Sirianni approaching a crossroads?

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

Are Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts heading toward a tipping point this offseason? How should A.J. Brown and DeVonta Smith feel about the Eagles’ offensive approach? Bo Wulf and EJ Smith open up the mailbag for a special Giving Tuesday edition of the PHLY Eagles show! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello everybody, live from the X-FINITY studio. This is the P-H-L-Y Eagles podcast presented by Bet365 and X-Finity Bow-Wolf, E.J. Smith here on a happy giving Tuesday to you as our Cyber Monday deal extends one more day, your chance to become a diehard for just $26 for the whole year. You get access to all of Fran Duffy Scouting Reports. That itself is worth way more than the price of admission. But in addition to that, you get E.J. Smith's writing. You get Charlie O'Connor's writing. You get Kyle Newbeck's writing.

You get Derek Bodner's writing. I might write twice a year. You'll get that. It's all worth it. It's good stuff when you do write, though. So, it's quality. It's not, I don't think that's up for debate. So, today, E.J.

We're doing it. We're doing it, huh? You and I are doing it today, my friend. And we're going to talk about the questions that you guys have. You have sent your emails to EJ at all p.hly.com. You have gathered some of those. And we are also hitting you up for cash during the. the show. Here's our deal. We've got five different tiers, and the money that you give today

goes to our friends, our partners at Big Brothers, Big Sisters in Philadelphia. We've got five different tiers here, okay? $25. You make a $25 donation. You get to ask a question, and we will answer your question. It's like a nice super chat. We appreciate that. $50. You get to decide one of the two of us who has to stay silent for 60 seconds and cannot talk during a portion of the show. For $100,

you get something from the studio. We will send it to you. I see the Eli Ricks card right over there. If you want it, you can get it. For $200, E.J. We'll dial up an X on speakerphone on the show.

Could be any X. I mean, I think they know who it is. For $300, the final tier, I will dial up a random number on my phone. And as long as it's not someone who's not allowed to be called, I will call it, and we'll see what happens. Yeah, like, how are you going to get the random number? You're just going to go like, like that. Yeah, I wish I had them numbered and then I could do a random number generator, but I guess I'll just, you know, like, you go like this and you tell them to stop. It's got to be like like that.

that. It can't just be, it's got to be dramatic. $300 you're talking about for a good cause. You can do it. Yeah, you know what? Maybe I should do it. Yeah. I could pick who it is. No, you can't pick who it is. That's not random. It's got to be random. Maybe if they donate 301, I get to pick who it is.

We have a already, a $50 donation? No. What is it? A $500. $500. Wow. Oh my God. And so we're doing Off the top! Are we doing it? Who is this from?

It says E.J. read my email subject. I want to play a game. Okay. Do you know who this is from? This is from. Unbelievable. Jake makes 9-9-6-8. $500.

Jake makes 500 bones. Does he also want, I guess we should do one of the other things, too. Yeah, you got to add up to 500. We should, maybe we could add them up. Wow. What Jake's asking for is not on the list of things. okay but what are you saying

are you worried about this game yeah a little worried about the game is it something we're allowed to talk about um he gave $500 I mean precisely $49999

but I mean still 500 it's very generous extremely generous oh my gosh you want to start I don't know the game he wants to play is not

this is like a saw situation yes I want to play a game I mean I feel like we got to do it I'll send it to you how about that how about you start and if we need an off ramp

we can we can take an off ramp okay the game he wants to play uh oh is he would like a certain member on this show's phone number what he wants someone's phone number he wants someone's phone number he wants someone's phone number he wants it

read what it says no I don't want to read what it says he said he gave $500 read what it says all right all right he says he says bo is always pontificating from his moral high horse. I'm curious to see if he would trade the thing he seems the most valuable to him, his privacy for a net good. So he's asking for your phone number, not the bat phone, not the

work phone, your actual cell phone number. I'm not so sure that nets out to a net good, but, um, thank you for the donation. It's very generous. Very generous. Yes. Yeah. No. Of course not. That wasn't one of the tears. You're not getting my phone number. Can we just do the three and the two? I'll call somebody. Yeah, I'll do the 300 and the 200, but no, I'm not giving you my phone number. There's no moral high ground to that. All right, you make your call first. All right, let's do it. I think we all know who the X is going to be. I thought this would like make it a little bit further into the show. All right, here we go. What if he doesn't pick up? I'll hear you.

Hello, Zach Berman. How are we doing? The big of the guy. What's going on? Don't you have a show right now? We do have a show right now. Somebody donated, I mean, they donated $500 total, but part of the $500 is to call an X.

So we figured we dial you up and see how things are going. Well, first off, I'm flattered. Because A, I love the P.H.I. Eagles show. It's awesome beyond, even on this way. B. I care quite a bit about Big Brothers and Big Sisters as well. So great donation. But great speaking to you guys. I don't usually get to speak to guys between two and three. Yeah, I was going to ask, what's it been like watching the show? Do you have co-host you like? Co-host, maybe you don't like as much? There's no one there I don't like, honestly. I like everyone there I think the show is a breath of fresh air I'm not watching it live right now

I'm saving it for a ride tomorrow because I'm trying to take care of some work before my kids get home tonight but I am I'm flattered that you called and it's awesome beyond I know the premise of the show today so I do recall the day of giving very well got any questions for your expo

I've never met the man before he's the guy who's on with David Baker I saw it yeah I enjoyed his episode with David Baker and I thought he had really a good insight into last year's Super Bowl season I appreciate that I appreciate that I'm a big fan

I'm a big fan of the PHO Eagles of the PHI Eagles show really enjoyed well I'm not giving you my number I thought Fran did an awesome job breaking down the film I learned a ton watching that show absolutely all right do we have any other questions for ZB

anything from me chat. I always love a good mailbag episode. That's a shot across your bow right there. Were you surprised the boat? I get to do a mailbag. There is a question. There is a question in the chat for you, Mr. Baker. The question is

do you think that Danes knows ball? Absolutely. Professor Selman, look, I don't get into social media's fats. I don't see how that benefits anyone, but I will have Professor Selman's back every day. I mean, I learn from him every time

I speak to him every time I listen to him every time I watch him and I think I think that's that's not a fight you want you know that's that's not a fight you want

I like that Jake makes Jake makes is in the chat saying I'm not a weirdo very much my shirt you know don't put it in my human trafficking shirt yes

anyway thank you for joining us Mr. Berman yeah thank you very much Zach we love you absolutely appreciate talk to you guys soon all right bye bye it's good to hear your voice

maybe I'll meet you someday you can only be so lucky yeah all right now I gotta call a random person right are you gonna call Jake let's see how do we do this wait I'm supposed to randomize I'll go like this okay and that'll that'll get us

a part and then you can point to the person okay time you want to stop stop okay without I know I want to pick you don't get to pick that's not random. Pick, pick, uh, right here. Okay. That's a little anti-climactic. It's Tommy Lawler.

Tommy Lawler. You're going to put on speaker. Tommy Lawler! How you doing? You're on live on the P.H.I. Eagle show. Good to hear from you. I haven't talked to you in a while, Tommy. How do you, how are you, how are you dealing with this Eagle season so far? where were you this weekend were you anywhere near new jersey did and did you have any eggs on you i would not egg cameron petulose house i have too much respect for it for cabin good i appreciate that uh this is as loud as i can this is as loud as i can get it unfortunately uh all right tommy give me uh i don't I don't know. Do you have any questions for Tommy, E.J.?

Am I going to see at the senior bowl this year, Tommy? I feel like that's my, that's the time I always see Tommy, and we always end getting a burger from that German, like, a beer garden place that has good burgers. So I'm hoping that I see him. I just want to know for E.J. Have you been a bad influence on him? I'm afraid of the answer is yes.

Have I been a bad influence on Bo? No, the other way. Oh, yes. Bo has been a terrible influence on me. I think that's been clear from the outset. But, you know, I'm trying to keep the moral high ground, I would say. Do as best you can, my friend. Do as best you can.

Thank you, Tommy. Tommy, what was the name of, oh, Marlon Favorite? Yeah, the greatest non-tackle in NFL history? Yes. Yeah, Marlon against the Cleveland Browns and I think it was 2012 dove, and just one of the most magical moments in football history, did not touch anything but the ground. One of the, one of the, honestly, one of the greatest moments in Eagles history, I would say.

To me, you know, you sit there and say Brandon Graham in the Super Bowl. Yes. Eric's hit on Gifford and a Marlon favorite against the Cleveland Browns in the preseason game. And I feel like maybe Jason Kroom's touchdown in the 2020 season. Oh, Jason Kroon. Now there's a name. Can we mix it, Julio Jones scored a touchdown? Julio Jones coming.

Yes, that's exactly right. all right Tommy I'm sorry to bother you in the middle of the day but this was for a good cause it was for $300 to Big Brothers Big Sisters so we appreciate you answering the phone appreciate you Tommy I always am going to answer the phone from Bo Wolves and if I'd known EJ was there I'd have answered

even faster. Oh, amen to that all right thank you Tommy thank you Tommy we'll have a great day and go Eagles we love you did you notice Zach didn't say he loved his back I mean that could not have been a better random person

to call yeah Zach didn't say he loved us. I'm going to be thinking about that. He never met me. I mean, he should love me. He should love you. Yeah, I love him. Okay. All right. Let's take a quick break. What an A-block. What an A-block. Straight to the news. And the A-block, everything you need to know about the Philadelphia Eagles says their season collapses. Yeah, we'll get some Eagles, some Eagles mailbag questions on the other side of the break. Okay, let's do that. We'll come back. Talk birds on the other side. Bet365 has 90 million users worldwide and they live stream over 780,000 events each year with early payout offers across the NBA and NHL. Bet365 pioneer live in-game betting and today

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Terms and conditions apply. All right, back on the PHA Y Eagles podcast. What do you got for us? All right, so let's do some Eagles ones. I'll mix in some of the goofier ones. Lindsay, we are going to go with... And by the way, keep those donations coming. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, I can't believe that we got right to it. I thought we'd be calling Zagga, like, 245. Would you have given someone your phone number? No. But, I mean, again, very generous with Jake, but I don't think I would have given out my phone number. Maybe, like, my work phone, maybe. Nanya says, for $1,000, would you invite the A's Hardware guy to come grill some meat? I mean, I would do that for free.

You know what, that, you know what? Okay, that can be the new $300 one or $200 or $200, whatever. I would text, my guy, Ed, shout out to Ed. Yeah, I'd invite him over. And he meets. All right. So, Lindsay, we're going to do the one from Adam Taylor. AT. AT.

Adam Thielis released. Adam Troutman. Oh, yeah, we were going to do that. That's fun. I like that. Every mailbag entry, we should use the initials. So Adam Taylor asks, well, first he says, thank you for all your work this season.

Here's my question for you guys. If the Eagles decide to run it back with Nick and Jalen next year, don't they run the risk of skill position players like AJ and Devante saying, quote, unquote, we don't want to be part of the scheme anymore and asking to be traded. this seems like a big risk to me. Cheers. Cheers. Adam.

What do you think? I do think it, we talked about it a little bit on yesterday's show, and I think it's an interesting discussion that we're probably going to be having for the duration of the season and into the offseason at this rate, which is we've seen different versions of the Nick Siriani, Jalen Hertz, offense. This is arguably, I mean, not arguably, I'd say this is the most concerning version.

we've seen. And if, because if you look at it singularly, Nick and Jalen both, it's hard to envision the Eagles moving on from either of them this offseason. But it's also hard to envision where they go from here, where that partnership can go moving forward. Like the way that Nick wants to plan offense, the way that Jalen is currently playing his style, like Jalen's approach as well, I think that there is a valid question. Again, as crazy as it sounds, because, you know, they were, you know, like, hoisting the Lombardi Trophy recent, like, you know, this year, it is, it is a difficult, it's an interesting, I think it's a fair question for Adam, and I think that that's what's so difficult about it, you know,

it's like, I do think that there's an argument to be made that A.J., Devante, really just the skill position players in general, they would look at the way that this offense is currently functioning and say something has to change, but what is it? Yeah, I mean, listen, this is under. the presumption that things continue the way that they've been going. But if they finish the season at this level of offensive play,

they're going to change something. Yeah, you had a great stat. The bottom half of the NFL? Right. Yeah, it's happened three times in last 20 years, and all three times the coach has gotten fired. It's the only three times the coach has gotten fired. I don't think that that means that Nick would get fired, or that certainly not that he should get

fired, but it means they're going to change some stuff. And you know, I guess there's a world where that's the quarterback. I think that's the least likely option. I think most likely it means they run back what they did in 2024 and, you know, Howie and Jeffrey go identify new people to bring into the staff. It's a different, Nick is in a different position than he was back then.

And he's well within his reasoning to push back and say, I'm not going to do that. And then who knows what happens after that. I would also say that that theoretical presumes that A.J. Brown hasn't already asked to be traded? Yes. That's a good point. Or that like it even matters, you know? Like I guess if in a world where it's Jalen, would you maybe, would you, would you, would that, like, increase the likelihood that A.J. Brown wants to stay if they moved on from J.L. But again, like, you're not, I don't know. It's, and like, let's be clear. Bless you, Lindsay. Bless you. Let's be clear. We, I mean, I was on a podcast with a certain

handsome co-host, the ringer's really special. And we used to do the Nixirani temperature check every week. And this was last season, and they went on to win a Super Bowl. So there is still room for that possibility. There's room for this conversation to age poorly. But where things stand right now, I do think Adam's question is a fair one. It's one that is had internally, and it's a very difficult one. It is part of why where the Eagles find themselves offensively is such a complicated thing.

Yeah. We're going to have a lot of time to talk about this. I think some of it is, is this window of the offense being a lead closing? You know, I don't know. Yeah. Okay. Next up, we have a donation from CDP, 1948, whose question is, in 2024, Kellyn Moore was hired to spread the passing game with concepts that Jalen reportedly wanted.

Jalen played like Will Levis for the first four games, and the O-Line demanded changes. why will it be different this time? Why has it been different or why would it be different if they had hired somebody? And that's a great question because I think that we look at the 2024 offense. Like we need to look at it through the lens of the fact that it was really Sequin Barclay in a historic season that papered over the fact the past game looked like this for a long stretch as the last season as well. And it is also important qualifier that like Jalen always seems to elevate his game on the biggest stages. You know, in the biggest moments, that's when he shows up. But honestly, I do think that

looking back at it, did the run game kind of paper over the fact that this has been the status quo with Nick Siriani and Jalen Hertz for the last three or four years in just specifically talking about the past game? Yeah. So that's part of the evaluation? I just think it is it's hard because obviously Jalen is at fault for a lot of it. He needs to be playing at a higher level, and we know that he has a heavy hand in the kind of offense that they're running. They're running the things that he wants to run. The flip side to that is we have also seen him play at a better level,

and it is the coach's jobs to get that level out of him. And it might be more difficult now that he has more sway, but that is the job. Yeah, and it's also just a matter of, like, you look across the NFL, you see the creativity that coaches have. You know, we watch Fran break down some of the things that the Chicago Bears did in the run game. We just don't see that from the Eagles. And you can't tell them, so maybe some of it is a Jalen Hertz thing. But you can't tell me that that, that Jalen Hertz is in the way of all creative run game elements and sequencing of plays.

Like, there's no way that Jalen is the sole reason that they can't be more creative offensively. So maybe he limits some of the things that they major in or some of the things that they would like to implement more of. And, you know, that's like the, you know, Tanner McKee comes in and the offense looks a lot different. Maybe Jalen is in the way of certain concepts. But again, like, that is where it's the coaching staff's job to figure out how can we be creative within the framework of what Jalen Hertz does best. And that's something Nick Sierra Honey talks about all the time for the record. Like, he talks about building the scheme around the players. He doesn't want an overly complicated system. He wants it to, you know, accentuate the qualities of his best

players. And it's not happening right now. Amen. All right, what's our next question? we're not going to do we'll get to that one next okay um all right lindsay we are going to do let's do gregg fidel oh gregg fitzsimmons gf i'm so bad at these games greg fitzs i don't even i think that's a comedian oh i thought we were doing eagles players i mean that's hard george fant okay i'll take that one All right, you want to hear his question? Yes. Would Nick be seen as an attractive candidate by the rest of the league if the season

continues to spiral and it leads to a divorce? He's our bozo for now, but just curious if he's also seen as a bozo or a great head coach by the rest of the league. I think it's an interesting question. Again, definitely in the same theme of the Nick Siriani alarmist meter, but I do think it's an interesting question. I would say I don't think he's viewed it across the league. is like one of the best coaches in the league.

Fair or unfair? I don't think he'd be, like, do you think he's more or less sought after than Doug Peterson was when he was fired by the Eagles? That's a good framing. Yeah. I would say less so. But I also think that he would get a job.

Head coaching job? Yes. Okay. I'm not sure I agree. I think he would get a head coaching job. It's tough. I'm not sure I agree. I think

fair or unfair I'm not really saying I have a dog in this fight but I think that I mean he won the Super Bowl last year Yeah but I think most people would look at the talent on the roster I don't think that Nick gets put in the forefront of the credit For no but I think he I think he would get a job

And I Listen we've talked about for for some reasons That like he is a particular kind of head coach Where you probably you need the roster to be good Yeah But I don't know know what what coaches do you not need the roster to be good for i mean but specifically with him you just haven't really seen at work without the collection of talent like you could point to the end

of 2021 yeah i mean they over they over they've over achieved every single year except for 23 yeah but i mean you agree with me that he's viewed you'd probably yeah i mean i agree with you it's not it wouldn't be like you know bill bellichick the tricky thing is you but you probably wouldn't hire mezzanosi because he doesn't call place right he'd have to be like your culture setting head coach i think he would get a job I don't I don't think I'm there Wow It's been tough on Nick

But I don't I just I'm not convinced that like there would be a team out there that goes What this guy offers is what we need Maybe if you had a young team Maybe you could talk yourself into it You had a young team and you just felt like We just need to reset the culture here You could talk me into that

Okay Yeah I think it's a good culture builder I just think that's a tough It's a tough sell You know, it's like, they're going to be, like, every year they're, like, the teams. There are the teams that want the scheme guru. Yeah. That's not Nick.

There are teams that are going to want, like, the defense, like, rah, ra. That's probably actually where Nick would come into the picture is like you want, like, a defensive culture guy. Yeah. I don't know. What are you going to tell them? You're going to go through the teams? I'm going to go through the teams here. And we're also going to say Joe Rockhead.

Thank you so much for the donation to Big Brothers, Big Sisters. $50. He has picked E.J. to be silent for 60 seconds. We're starting the clock at five seconds right now. 228.05 is the next time you can talk. Boy, does E.J. suck.

All right. Patriots, not firing anybody. Bill's not firing anybody. Dolphins, that would be a terrible fit. Jets, they're not firing in Aaron Glenn after one year. Ravens, if they fired, if they moved on from John Harbaugh? I don't think so. Pittsburgh? No. Cincinnati? I could sort of see Cincinnati talking themselves

into Nick Siriani as like, oh, this guy, just being dumb enough to just be like, this guy just won the Super Bowl. I could sort of see that. My time is up so I can talk now? Your not? Time is not up. You said 2805. 20? Yes.

It's 2742. Oh, I'm looking here. Oh, my God. Where was your internal clock? That was 30 seconds. I also have a counter on the screen. Oh, believable. That's bad work by me.

All right, can we reset? Now you owe Big Brothers, Big Sisters, $50. We should set that parameter. All right. That's terrible. Reset the timer. All right. Ready?

Reset. All right. 29.05, you go. No, okay. Cleveland? No. Jacksonville, no. Indianapolis, no.

Obviously, that would be very funny. Houston, no. Tennessee? I could see Tennessee. I could definitely see Tennessee. That one makes a lot of sense. Denver, L.A., Las Vegas?

No. actually, I could sort of see Las Vegas. Nick, like, really playing up the sideline stuff in Vegas. I could kind of see that in a post-P. Carroll world. So I'm down to two so far. Philly, Dallas, Washington, the Giants, Chicago, Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Carolina, Atlanta. No, New Orleans, no.

L.A., Seattle, San Francisco, Arizona. Now, that would be funny. There's a real get-back for, and Nick and his introductory Press Conference could say, actually, I suggested to the owner that he hires me instead of Jonathan Gannon. It was my idea. I could sort of see that. I'm going on the record now that if Nick Siriani is coaching a different team than the Eagles next year, it is the Tennessee Titans. I think Tennessee is the one that stood out to me as well. You have a young quarterback. You feel like maybe you look back at the Vrable era differently if you're Tennessee, and I think

that Nick fits into that mold well. Going through it, do you feel stronger or less convicted? in that he would get a job. I think I would put, if the Eagles move, if the Eagles in Sierra night divorced at the beginning of the off season, I would put 56 turkeys on him getting a job. You move me to like 40, maybe 45.

I'm still leaning no, but I think, can I say something? I mean, like this has already been kind of like harsh, I would say, for Nick, so I'm just going to throw this out there. I think he'd be an excellent college coach. And I mean that complimentary. Like, I think the, like what he's mastered, teaching fundamentals and building culture,

I mean, I think he'd be awesome at the college level. I don't think he'd want to do it. I think he probably should aspire for higher than that, obviously. But I do think he'd be a great college coach. I mean, you hear that from players, too, that he reminds them of a college coach in some of the ways that he really harps on values and fundamentals. Yeah, I think he, the thing he does. doesn't like about being a head coach is all

of the other stuff. Sure. And I think there's too much of that other stuff in college. Yeah, and that's just kind of the reality of the college football landscape at this point. It's like they're less desirable jobs for that reason. All right, we got a $25 donation from Seth Garcia S.G.

Sarah Michelle Geller. Steve Garvey. Steve Garvey? Steve Garvey. Former NLNBP. Borderline Hall of Famer. I think he should be in. First Baseman.

Sammy Guerrero? Why am I so bad at these? I'm trying to think of Eagles players. I know there's got to be. Steve Grogan. This is going to be me Googling people you say. Eagles players. Anyway, the question from

Steve Grogan is, why would this offense be how hurt wants it to look. It seems to me that right now the scheme is making it harder on Hertz, and he has no easy buttons. Isn't it making it harder on the QB and not easier? I think there are concepts that he's comfortable with that they run a lot. I think that that's definitely a big part of it,

but I think it's also fair to, like, when you look at how they played against the Lions, I know I keep bringing it up, but it was concerning to me that their response to like a bad, a Jalen Hurt's game that wasn't very clean, their response is like, let's just run the most basic passing offense we possibly can. I do have a hard time believing that Jalen Hertz wants it to look like that. Yeah, I mean, certainly he doesn't want it to produce this outcome,

but I think there are things baked into the game plan that are based on things that he wants or doesn't want. I would say, I think the doesn't one is probably stronger in some areas where it's certain concepts that he does not want to run or certain elements of the past game that he's not as confident in that they therefore won't run. I think that's probably right. Yeah. All right, time to take another break as we keep rolling on this quail bag.

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Sure. How often do you find yourself using your feet to pick things up? Right now a lot because I have a baby. So it's like your hands are full. Sure. A lot of times I ask my daughter to pick stuff up though. She'll do it. So I'll be like, go get that.

Okay. That's good. So, she's around. I feel, for whatever reason, I don't know if it's because I'm older or it's the three kids. I feel like I'm doing more foot pickup than I'm always wearing socks, though, so it's hard to pick stuff up when you've socks on, so. Just house is cold or you got cold feet? I'm always cold. The house, yeah, my house is freezing right now.

I got to put the slippers on the second I walk in the door. Yeah. Got some. I got the ug sliders. I guess I shouldn't be giving them free advertising, but. Hey, if you want to sponsor the show. I mean, I've already got them. I don't need them.

Let us know in the chat. Parents out there. Hashtag, if you're a foot person or not. Careful. I knew this was going to get dirty at some point. We have a parenting mailbag if you want to. Let's hear it. So this one's from Seth Frankenfield from Godchall's Turkey or poultry at Reading Terminal.

Yeah, my guy. I felt bad about that, actually, because you were over talking to him. And then we were doing the video. And then I was going to go say hi to him afterwards. but then he was off working. Yeah, well, he sent me a very nice email, and he said that, like, Thanksgiving for them, because they're a poultry butcher.

Of course. Is, like, their Super Bowl. Like, he was working hard. So, I think we'll pay Seth another visit. I'm going to email him next year. Oh, man. And actually, didn't you get, you got turkey, right? I got some drumsticks from them.

How did they turn out? Incredible. Incredible. My man, you kidding me? I'm going back next year. You getting me? You kidding me? Fran sent me a funny social media.

Like, it was, I think it was an Instagram reel about, like, the typical, like, barbecue man. And there were a lot of lines in there that made me feel very seen. But the one especially was, I haven't prepared a single side. It felt very, very E.J. coded right there. So, yeah, from Seth Frankenfield. Whoa. Yeah. It looks like one of the dinners is swoopers.

I'll skim through some of it. This is a question for you and, Fran. and Lindsay, because Lindsay's here. The Eagles offense has been crap, and E.J. loves bathroom questions. On that note, what words of advice do you have on parents regarding potty training? E.J. Save your dog-related answers for the sake of time. He says, my two-and-a-half-year-old son says, not quite when we ask him if he's ready for the potty. No rush, but preschool does start next fall.

I turned the birds game off on Sunday late in the fourth. My opinionated son said, more Eagles now. I said, Eagles are all done, buddy. they need some help. He says, help now. As I blank stared out the window. I said, yes, you're right, buddy. They do need help. And they need it right now. I wonder if this is how a Jeffrey and Julian, Lori, father, son conversation goes nowadays, probably not too far off. Yeah, that's funny. I think Julian might have some ideas on how to fix the stuff now. Need it now.

My potty training experience, different with the first two. kids the first one we did just you know the classic it was a long weekend 72 hours you put towels down all over the place you sit around no you're not wearing anything and it's just if you got to go to the bathroom we bring you up you bring you right to the potty there's some accidents in there but that worked pretty well hmm the first poop was very dramatic and very memorable in my in my brain okay otherwise worked well and And he's been good ever since. My daughter, less smooth.

You're going to throw him to the bus? No, it's just, I mean, we tried the same thing. It didn't, it didn't take quite as well. But I don't know, you'll get through it. What about you, Lindsay? She just got potty trained this past weekend because it was a long weekend. She kind of, like, was into it more herself anyway the last month or so. So it was kind of easy.

Yes. We just did, like, every half hour over this weekend. Let's go to the bathroom. Yes. she's been good I was there the first time my niece used the baby

toilet yeah he used to bring that thing in the car with us on the road and I won't I won't show the picture out of respect

for my sister but she like has like a triumphant like hands up it's a really cute picture that's great we have another question in the chat here

is this he just donated $10 dollars Mike Mikey with a nice $10 donation I appreciate that Fran chimed in

his answer for the potty training they go when they're ready very hard to push it beforehand bribery can work we ended up scaring francis into it what does that mean you literally scared the poop out of him oh he says we told him that if he didn't start pooping on the potty by his fourth birthday and he would turn into an octopus that's amazing my i did the trick my siblings told me that if i ate too much chicken i would turn into a chicken is that a thing is that just my twisted sisters i mean your your sisters didn't tell me that Yeah, but like, did your family members tell you that you turn into a chicken? No.

And then, I mean, so tying your shoes tangentially related, you know, coming of age. Okay. My parents locked me in my room and told me I wasn't allowed to leave until I tied my shoes. Wow. Yeah. And I tied my shoes. But that meant shoes in the house. Yeah, my dad is a big shoes in the house guy.

Oh, I thought you were anti-shoes in the house. I don't really care either way. I don't wear shoes in my house, but, yeah, my dad, when we were kids, was really big on, like, you'll step on something. So just wear your shoes in the house. Okay. Yeah. Looks like we got another donation here to Big Brothers Big Sisters from Matthew Greenwood, who's it now. You know, we didn't really meet the threshold of getting to get a question answered just to be pedantic, but that's okay.

Yeah, with generosity still. I think the loss of identity contributes the hurts to. hurts his lack of confidence. Imagine him with years under one experienced offensive coordinator. Maybe this is Jaylen. The lack of direction will lack leadership. Maybe this is Jalen's burner because this is definitely something he's talked about a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

It could be Jalen's burner. Matthew Greenwood. Nobody would suspect it, right? I mean, if it's Matt, if it's Jalen's burner, like, pulling up a little bit more. That's true. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's something to that. Absolutely. I think that leads to all of that change probably leads to Jalen having more of a

concrete sense of the things he does and doesn't want to do because he has to carry these things with him moving forward no matter who the guy's going to be. Yeah, and we talk about Jalen not being an anticipation thrower. And really, it's interesting because you think about how he played in each of the Super Bowls. It does seem like the more comfortable he gets within a scheme, the more he's in rhythm. and he is, I mean, that's what, he's such a tricky evaluation because you've seen him play at a high level and I think that him being in a rhythm is really important.

You know, there's a lot of reasons why I think the Eagles ranked toward the bottom of the NFL in three and out percentage, but I do think like the disparity between in-rhythm Jalen Hertz and out of rhythm Jalen Hertz is a drastic disparity. So I think that that definitely makes, that definitely plays a big, it's a big reason why they find themselves where they are, the fact that he hasn't had this time on task, as he would put it, in this system. But at the same time, this is the reality of being like a elite quarterback in the NFL.

What some people talking about, like, food for them that is like an ick? Yeah. What are you really? Stuffing. Stuffing. But does it like, you just don't prefer it or does it, like, actually provoke, like, a response from you? Not to be gross, but when I was a kid, my parents tried to force me. me to eat stuffing. My parents are getting killed today.

Love my parents. At least it's not Julia getting dragged over the bus. My parents tried to force me to eat stuffing on Thanksgiving and I gagged aggressively and that was the last time. Does it still like... I tried some stuffing on Thanksgiving. It's still not my thing but Julia's stuffing

is very like crispy. It's the mushy stuffing like I can't do it. Okay. Other foods that give me the ick. You know what really grosses me out? Bad fruit? Hmm. Yeah. Like, if you get, you know, one of those, like, a moldy strawberry in there. Oh, what about, like, I got to get out of my site or like a...

Overwrite banana? The banana is the only one that doesn't really get me, because I know that you can just make banana bread with that. I was just about to say, we make that into banana bread. But, yeah, like, like, if you grab a pear or an apple or something, and then it's, like, really, it's, like, nasty. Ooh, that, that gets me. Yeah, yeah. This is a specific use case, but, like, many M&Ms have seen. somebody's like handing them to you I can't do that someone handing you many M&Ms yeah or

medicine has anybody like have you ever been like hey do you have like an insert you know over-the-counter medicine here like whatever like a painkiller or something right if they go like do that gross you out I don't know if it would gross me out I couldn't I don't think I could take it I would probably do it and I'd like literally cringe I'm crinching thinking about it so if you ask me for anything Maddville. Yeah, I would. And I, instead of doing it like this, I handed it to you.

Yeah, I would really bother. I do feel like that is, it's a bad germy. Yeah, that's inappropriate. Francis Pepto-Bismol. I mean, it's not supposed to taste good. Interesting. It's like what you take when you, when you need the help. Yeah.

Like, nobody's like taking peptobismol because they like it. It's not like a taste, oh yeah, like, gonna wash this down with some Pepto-Bismol. It's for a purpose. All right, let us know in the chat. Do you use your feet and what is the food that really grosses you out? And then we'll come back with more on the other side here on the P.H.O.I. Eagles podcast. Whether it is a sore knee, a stiff shoulder or nagging back pain,

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year at monarchmoney.com with code P-H-L-Y. Lindsay is absolutely on top of it today on the P-H-L-Y Eagles podcast. She busted this out from her backpack and threw it to me, good arm. Got some M-A-M-A-N-M-A-M-A-G. We need like a $300 donation. Somebody donate $200 and I'll give E.J, these M-N-M-Ns in my hand. You didn't wash your hands either. I've been around you for hours.

I just watched my hands before the show. I don't believe you. If someone... Someone don't know it's $1,000. Bo gets to put that M in your mouth. Well, I mean, now I've been shouted to big brothers, big sisters, but I kind of hope that this doesn't happen now. And they're going to just sit in my hand right now until somebody commits.

That's awful. That is awful. All right, what's our next mailbag question? Okay. I'm a little frazzled right now. So let me get the mini ones, though. You said you were worried about the minis. I mean, all M&Ms.

I won't, like, take like, M&M. M&M's out of like my wife's hand. That's outrageous. She is clean. She's very clean. Let's do... Yes! That was impressive.

You know what? I also like won't... If somebody tries to throw something in my mouth, I can't do it. If it touched your hand, I won't eat it. That's the rule. That's understandable. But... Is it?

I mean, you're trying to feed me M&M's over here. Well, that's for charity. Sure. All right, let's do Bobby Chen's entry, Lindsay. What a toss What a catch BC Oh, Bobby Convey

Bobby Convey This is a long one too But it's a good one Bill Cartwright That's good Think of an Eagles player He says hey EJ Beau Fran And the rest of the PHOI crew

Been a fan since the BWF days Were you allowed to say what that is? Yeah, that's fine The Birds of Friends days This is a very funny graphic I'm writing I'm writing in for this week Lindsay, how do you choose to go middle justified?

I mean, it looks good. Always middle. Always middle? You know, we talked about this the other day, either all uppercase or all lowercase. Oh, you got to hear this. We got to talk about this before we got this middleback question. So we're going to come back to the mailbag.

We'll come back to this question. You got to hear this about Lindsay. This is the first weird thing we've heard about Lindsay, I feel. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't think we know any weird things. Lindsay. All of the contacts in her phone all lowercase

should I show the camera an example with my bow wolf all lowercase that is like some aggressive Gen Z behavior like aggressive Gen Z I like have like very organized contacts where if I knew you from high school

it's your first name in your last initial period but then since I have evolved into just putting people's phone names in my context I'm pretty much everybody first name last name Yeah, even my wife is just first and last thing. Same. Yeah, my husband's the same and like people think it's weird. Yeah, people think it's weird.

I used to have Julia with an emoji. Like it was the heart, his face blowing a kiss because Siri would always say that. And then at some point my wife changed her contact info. Like, you know, she has the one that's uniform and I just took it. It's fine. But Lindsay in my phone is Lindsay new producer. Oh, that's mean. Why would you do that?

I mean, I still have friends. who are like Kate Graham's mom. No, Lindsay is Lindsay with her last name in my phone. That's what it should be. Yeah, exactly. That's why I said it's mean. That's not mean? It's a little inconsiderate.

Like there are some people from... Change the contact. Like who I met like the first weekend in college. And it would be like Lizzie from New York City or something like that. And that's never changed. Yeah, but like you know who Lindsay is at this point. You could just put her name in your contact. Yeah, but I think it's...

kind of nice. See how he treats the production staff guys. That's not a bad treat. I'm kind to our production staff. That's not unkind. That's the Camelotu incident. Will you ever change it? Do you want me to change it?

I want it to be like we become close enough friends that you want to change it because you're like, this feels weird. Now the real. I'm telling you, I have good friends in my life who have not changed. Yeah, but that's a, that doesn't make it right. But let's not turn this on me. Let's get back to the lower case. Yeah.

So you've got to go in and do lowercase. It's going automatic capitalized for the for the first letter. So am I lowercase EJ in your phone? Oh, how do you deal with the initialisms? I don't do periods. You said that though. Respect. Yeah, but is it just lowercase E.J.?

Yeah. Wow. And then Smith. Oh, see? Always first name, last name. Yeah, she's got my name in her phone. It like kills me if it's somebody who like I don't like if it's like somebody doing work at our house and I have to save their number like I don't know their last name.

Yeah. Like when I have to put like handyman. I'm like. That kills me. I do have an HVAC. Well, the ironic thing is he's an HVAC guy, but he's in my phone as plumber. Because when my uncle sent me the number,

when he sent me the number, he's like, he's our plumber. So he just sent me like the guy's name in Plummer. And yeah, no, he's not a plumber, HVac guy. Good HVac guy. Okay. It's hard to find good HVAC guys out there, you know. Yeah. So if you ever need a guy.

They're all stuck in the HVAC. All right, let's get this mail back now. Bobby Chan, E.J.'s story last week... Bill Cosby. No. Temple alum. E.J. story last week about his awful plane seat experience on his flight home from the Dallas game reminded me of my worst flight experience.

Some years ago, on a return flight home from an international trip, Flex, I had noticed that the plane was not full as there were empty rows on the other side. So I asked the flight attendant if I could move to one of the empty rows and she said it was fine. but only after takeoff, to avoid, some rows designated for staff. So I make my move to an aisle seat with no one seated next to me. The row is all mine, all good. And then we get served a meal, and things went downhill.

During the meal, another flight attendant asked me why I was seated there. So I told her that I had asked a colleague and was given permission. Unmoved by my explanation, this flight attendant told me that I needed to go back to my seat as she needed this seat. and the one next to it because an elderly passenger was unhappy in his seat, and she needed to urgently move him to this one right away. As I was mid-meal, I asked if I could at least finish eating first, and she quickly shot me down,

saying that she has to move the man and his companion ASAP. So I had to frustratingly carry the meal tray and my belongings back to my original seat on the other side of the plane, meaning I had to wrap around the back end of the aisles. Like E.J., I'm not the type to make a scene, a.k.a. he's a pushover millennial, but definitely stued back into my original seat with the passenger next to me wondering what happened.

Again, this was some time ago, and I've moved on, obviously. But would any... I don't think that that's so obvious. I don't think yes. But would anyone else have handled it differently, or maybe better to always, quote, unquote, just behave on a flight. Thanks and go birds, Bobby. So this guy... I gotta tell you. Hold on, let's... I've... As someone who does,

who's experience with mailbags, you know, the handsome podcast hosts would be proud of me right here. You've got to read the email and then you've got to summarize the email so that people who may be tuned out halfway through, they can still partake. So this guy, calling the audience dumb. Okay. He's in a busy, he's on a not so busy airplane. He wants to move to an open row. Flight attendant says it's okay. He moves. He's feeling good. He's got his meal. Another flight attendant comes by gives him a hard time, says he has to move right away with his meal and his bag. He's got to, you know, all the hands are full. He's got to move back to his original seat.

How are you feeling about this? This is so not the same as yours. This is unfortunate, but not that big of a deal. And you just got a bad dice roll. Like, maybe the second flight attendant should have been a little bit nicer to you. I think that's where I come down. And that's fine. But, I mean, them's the brakes.

If she, she is obviously dealing with an actual situation. and you got lucky and now you didn't get lucky it's not that big of a deal you have no right to that seat just because one attendant said told you you can move there if they need to move somebody else there

that takes precedence sorry I think the second flight attendant's a little bit tyrannical here sure like if your co-worker said it was okay who are you to be undoing that

but the information has changed there had to be other rows there had to be other rows we don't know that Yeah, he didn't make that clear. Or if the guy's so uncomfortable, then why can't they all just sit in the same row? I understand that the emailer would be in the same position at that point. But to tell this guy that you can't have the seat that someone else gave you,

it wasn't the second flight attendant's decision to make. That's absolutely incorrect. Of course you're wrong about this. No. Second flight attendant, in my opinion, it's tyrannical. This is obviously a situation that actually matters over here. they got to move this old this is a terrible take from you how like what scenario are you envisioning

that extra seat it's a nice thing that they got it for a little bit of period of time I'm sorry you're in the middle of your meal clearly there's a pressing issue going on this is not even close you don't even have anything to be aggrieved about other than one person was a little bit rude to you

yeah that's what I'm saying I think this I don't think it was a little bit I don't think it's a little bit I think the second flight attempt was being tyrannical I think if my, if you told somebody at the office that they could sit somewhere, and I'm like, who told you you could sit there? And they're like, Bo told me I could sit there. And I'm like, no, you can't sit there. That's not what happened.

You don't know. The person didn't come over and say, no, you're not allowed to move seats. Go back to your seat. You don't know. The person said, I need to use this row because we got an old guy who's losing his marbles and he's got to move somewhere else. Yeah, I would like to know more about why this was so urgent. That's all I'm saying. I don't buy it.

the old guy's uncomfortable if he had like a medical thing if he had like a medical thing or it was like serious then sure but if an old guy because who's to say that the second flight attendant isn't just saying

I promise this other guy that he could have this seat and why is that the emailer's problem maybe that exists as a possibility that's not the story that we've been heard that we've heard I think you jump to a conclusion

she says the emailer says Bobby says hold on I got to find I got to find it. Bobby could be a girl. True. That is a good.

Thank you, Lindsay. Bob, they said, the fight attendant told me that I needed to go back to my seat and that she needed the seat and the one next to it because an elderly passenger was unhappy in his seat.

That's not important. That just means that the elderly passenger was just as unhappy as the emailer. Maybe he was in an emergency row and like, do you want him the old guy in charge of opening up the slide?

So if it was, if the flight attendant had come and said, an old guy is in the exit row and he doesn't feel comfortable. It's an old guy. Well, listen, the old guy is important here because you're over here like, this old guy needs it. He needs it. He doesn't need it. He's just as unhappy as Bobby.

This shows that E.J. is not apparent because sometimes you just, as a parent, I just get to like, I just get to decide you don't need to know all the background of why this person's moving. It's like, because I said so. Yeah, but you guys are like in charge of power on a flight. I say. But that's the thing, is it's one flight attendant's power versus another. I need to know more about what's happening with the old guy before I can sign off on this. All right.

You go do some journalistic digging. You need some investigation. This is a good one. See, isn't this fun? Didn't you have fun? Yeah, I mean, it's nice for me, for you to make such a fool of yourself. I think I came out on the right end of this. No.

You were too. It's so dramatic about the old guy. But I think there's a follow-up there where they says, like, there's something else to it. She said that, sorry, Bobby said that... Bobby said that the old guy was unhappy, and then she says, sorry, I don't know why I keep changing Bobby's pronouns. Bobby says, I asked if I could at least finish eating first, and she quickly shot me down, saying that she has to move the man and his companion as soon as possible. that's not

this woman is trying to put out a fire oh my god you see how he's you see how he's trying to reframe this no she's not the flight attendant's not trying to put out a fire this is a this is a young fit individual

who is just looking to get a little bit of space you were like adding so much information you couldn't possibly know this flight attendant is on a long flight she's dealing with this problem guy did you see it CDP said What?

The old guy needs to know what time it is. That's awesome. No. The old guy. Yeah. The old guy is putting on a fire. This old guy is ruining the flight for everybody around them. Lindsay, you jumped it.

I will get there. I have 19 seconds. No, you don't. We're going above time. It's 3 o'clock. We go by that clock. No. Do we actually go by that clock?

Yeah, we all go by the real time. We got to get our clock right then. Or you could just pay attention to the time. Lindsay, I forgive you. I never knew what you were going off. I was like, you're always like 10 seconds off. I think, I don't think you get to forgive Lindsay. I think Lindsay gets to forgive you.

We forgive each other. Okay. So you're putting out of fire over here. Yeah, this flight attendant is this old, talking about a tyrant, It's the old guy. I don't, I just think the second flight attendant overstepped. If the first flight attendant said you could sit there. They got to worry about, your whole argument.

They got to worry about everybody on the plane. Your whole argument. Not just precious Bobby's meal time. So you're just talking about like squeaky wheel gets the grease here because the old man's ruining everybody's flight, which you don't know, by the way. You are projecting that. If Bobby decided to make a big fuss, now those flight attendants have to figure it out. I would have done what Bobby did, but I would have been a little annoyed about it.

You're allowed to be annoyed. Yeah. But this is not a big grievance. I think flight attendant, too, is tyrannical. I think that this story reflects poorly on the second flight attendant. Again, unless the old guy, unless it was more urgent than Bobby made it sound. You know who the old guy was? I'm really afraid where you're going with this.

Jackson Hawes. I see you, friend. That's right. Jackson Hawes was the old guy. What is, what is, what are you trying to accomplish you? You're trying to get Fran in the chat. Nobody wants E.J. to eat these M&Ms in my hand. Come on, people. All right, I got another one.

This one's from Joel Fisher, Lindsay. I'm excited for this one. Jenna Fisher. Jake Ferguson. Jake Ferguson. Hey guys, just wanted to let you know, since it's never come up in the years of P-Talk, that here in Germany,

is the norm for men to sit down to pee. It's considered extremely rude to stand at any toilet that is also used by a woman. And trust me, the German women will know if you do. Even if you think your aim is perfect, there are tiny invisible droplets spraying all over the place, coating the toilet and the surrounding area.

I'm originally from PA and was flabbergasted with my German girlfriend, now wife, Flex. Yeah, big flex right there. Asked me to Sitz Pinkler. But I did, as I was told, and very quickly got used to it. I now can say I haven't stood at a toilet in over 15 years and honestly find the idea barbaric.

Have a seat. It's really not weird. We should have called ZB for this. Yes, I have heard about the word, sit spinkler. Sitz-Spinkler. Yeah, good. It's in that situation, it's thoughtful. Yeah.

I think there are other times. when it's, yeah, the middle of the night. Middle of the night is the peak time to do it. Absolutely. Keeps you in sleep mode. Yeah, and it's like, are you turning the lights on? Yeah. No way.

And if not... Right. But if you were standing, you kind of need to. We're rolling the dice. You're rolling the dice, is what I would say. Am I going to sit here and say, I always turn the lights on? I can't. My wife would be outraged.

She might get in the chat. But sitting down there, yeah, keep the lights on. Like you said, keeps you in the lights on. sleep mode. At the very least, this co-host that sits in this chair will never have the machismo, the masculine outrage at the idea. Yeah. Time and a place. And I'm, you know what, I am going to go see Barbie. There's no way to go see it. They're going to go home. No, go and watch it. Okay. I've been thinking about watching the Lord of the Rings and Stranger Things. Why, you're going to do Lord of the Rings, even with the Ring thing. I'm going to try it.

Maybe the first movie. I'm going to give it an effort. Okay. Yeah. All right. Any other mailback questions we have? Lindsay did hard work to put a painstaking graphic together for. Yeah, hold on.

We've got, this is a really long one. We've got them. From Gerald Glickman. It is about the fourth down, or the going for two situations in the fourth quarter. It's a good one. Gary Guy Eddy. George Gervyn. That's a good one. I think that's the one. I don't think I can think of an eagle's one.

No bathroom etiquette in this question, etiquette. But hear me out. I am not a smart person in the professor's confidence along with seemingly everyone else on the internet besides JJ Watt. Makes me feel like I am an extremely special concussion uncle on this topic, but we can discuss going for two, wind down by nine with three minutes left. I mean, you want to go through the whole thing? I think you understand. Okay. I understand the point of view that you need. to go for two at some point at least once to tie or win the game moving forward. You'd rather know if the game will be one or two scores earlier rather than later. The other assumption that this approach assumes is your chance of converting the two-point play are at the same now as they will be later, so might as well go early. This is my beef of the week.

I don't agree with the last assumption, as it does not account for the human element, call it momentum of the game at all. Just cold, hard logic. What a way to live. Some might even say this is the way an AI would choose to live their life. Yes, by going for one, you effectively forfeit your opportunity to win the game, only retain the ability to tie, but by kicking the point, you retain your ability to not lose and maybe win later in OT.

I was at the game, and most people could feel that the game was out of reach slash over at the six minute mark. That's when people started leaving. And all of a sudden, we marched down the field and have the opportunity to make it a one-scor game. If they kicked the point, the professor's model assumes there would be no impact on the motivation of the players and remaining fans to not lose, turn it around given it'd be a one score game, which I simply cannot accept. They were getting stomped all day, take the points, or take the point, give yourself a chance to turn it around, miss the two, and the game is over. Seems like an easy

decision given the situational context for me, but then again, I'm a moron. All models are wrong, some are useful. In this case, I feel like the model was both wrong and not useful. Thank you for the work and entertaining my caveman question. So this is one where I actually don't think that it is cut and dry and there are more variables where if there is enough time left or if there is little enough time left where you're probably not going to get the third possession anyway, then I think it's fine to kick. Now, in this game in particular, we should note that Jake Elliott missed an extra point.

So it's not like you were getting a guaranteed point anyway. And then he ended up missing that field goal. So it's not like in this game that was definitely the right thing to do. I totally agree and understand that in general, it's better to know how many possessions you're going to need. But I think if it's like, you know, if it's not informing whether or not you're going to kick an onside kick anyway or kick it away and you've got three timeouts and you need a stop anyway,

I think it's okay to think that there is a chance, that you know the other team's gonna get tighter if it stays what is quote-unquote one possession or you know there's there could be a situation where like a guy got banged up or something like that I don't think it is a definite if there is a little enough time left where you're not going to get that third possession anyway if that makes sense it makes sense I don't put as much stock into the momentum side of it yeah I agree with I don't I think like we can't discount how it changes the mentality of the game because, you know, we talk about that a lot where, you know, now I can't remember the exact scenario, but the scenario where you're

encouraging a team to go win the game on the final drive in certain situations, right? We talk about how what you do with those decisions might influence how your opponent response to them, but in this case, I do, I don't put enough stock into the momentum or the human element to not want to know as early as possible whether or not I need the extra possession. I get what you're saying about the third possession. I think that's a good point. It's probably not as cut and dry as we've made it.

So I do appreciate Gerald's email here because I think it is not as black and white as, well, you just need to know earlier. But I do think in general I still err on the side of wanting to know earlier. Yeah. And I also, I mean, I do think that like the momentum of it or the, it's just hoakum. It's like, you know, there's a lot of research to disprove that. But, oh, man, I borrow this pen from Julia and I just broke the thing. See, again, you and the production staff.

Now, that is disrespect. But I will get her a new pen. She liked that pen. Maybe that pen had sentimentality with it. It didn't. How would you know that? Let's call her. We're going to call Julie.

Yeah. You're our Julia. Yes. You don't have my Julia's phone number. No, but I did, as of yesterday, become Instagram friends with her. Oh, well. All right.

Yeah. She's got a better Instagram game than me. Wait, no. Hang up. Hang up. Hang up. Why? I'll call her. You got better. You got a better speaker.

Yeah, that's true. She's going to really wonder what's going on. She gets back-to-back calls. She gets back-to-back calls from us on set. Yeah, why is you so much louder? It's a newer phone, I guess. It's a big phone. People always comment on that.

FIFIFO phone. I'm going to eat you. She's not going to pick up. She's probably doing something. Yeah, she's a busy person. I think she's doing. Hi, Bo has something. Julia, I'm sorry.

You're in the middle of the exciting mics record. Are you busy right now? Oh, I'm on the recording for exciting mics. Awesome. I need to apologize to you. You're on. I just accidentally broke the pen that you let me borrow. Oh, no.

So I will get you a new pen. I owe you too. Okay. Okay. Is there sentimentality with this pen, Julia? No, no It was a new one It was a new one

Oh, so it was special No Just show some respect For the production staff Just once I gotta tell you The amount of panic That just went through my mind

I was like, oh no Now EJ's called me on the show Because I'm like Sorry, Julia I'm glad everyone's okay And it's just the pen It's just the pen Thank you Julia

I love you We love you too Bye See Julia loves us Unlike Zach All right Now

Lindsay has done some interesting research here She put up a poll on YouTube and on X Wow

And she has very different answers And how did you How did you frame the question Lindsay On Twitter I gave

Like a little synopsis You know, just in case someone was scrolling on here, I just said who, who was wrong, but all the same four answers. What is, what does everybody say on YouTube? On YouTube? They say the old guy is wrong for having to, like, be moved. Who is most wrong, okay. Oh, but Bobby is 43%.

So, okay, so the people who were actually listening to the conversation, Lindsay has broken it down into who was wrong, flight attendant one, Bobby, flight attendant, two, or old guy. But coming in last, flight attendant one and four percent. Agreed. Flight attendant two, who you are calling a tyrant, comes in third at 13%.

Old guy and second at 39%. And Bobby, poor Bobby, who generously donated to big brothers, big sisters out of the kindness of his heart comes out wrong. No, I... 43% most wrong.

But we, X is very different. And X, flight attendant two. Flight attendant two. They're with EJ. that is perfect, E.J., you are with the people on ass. I knew you were going to do this. All

I will say is the people who listen to the story, you look at it like Bobby was the one that came out the worst there. Old guy and flight attendant two combined are higher than Bobby. Most people think that the evil conspiracy from flight attendant to an old guy

is actually the problem here. You might have blamed Bobby. No, you're wrong. Look at the poll and go, that's Bobby. That's not But flight attendant two, an old guy, were in cahoots. No. Justice for Bobby. Absolutely not. And I think it is really nice to see that the people who actually were here for the conversation were correct.

It's funny that the people on X really went after Flight Attendant 1 as well. Like, what did Flight Attendant 1 do? Yeah, they're just, they're bots just clicking. No. Dots. Bots clicking dots. Is that who you'd vote for, Flight Attendant 1? You're saying she shouldn't have said okay.

I think it's fine for her to say it's okay but you got to I mean there's probably implicit in that is things might change I'm surprised yeah

I'm surprised that I'm surprised that the poll results didn't just blame Jewish people I got nothing to say I

feels like what Grock would have done I think Bobby Bobby deserves clearance clear Bobby's name their name I'm not saying

I think Bobby has a picture on his email so I think we Justice for Bobby Justice for Bobby No Bobby didn't have a picture so Suddenly EJ can do math The stakes are high

for our, for our person, Bobby. All right. Any more mailback questions or are we getting out of here? We have one more. Okay. It's, it was on blue sky.

Speaking of social media. From football 11 Joe. Sorry. With the lack of development and various struggles of Keeley Ringo, Adori Jackson, Sydney Brown, etc. Is Christian Parker

less likely to, get scooped up for D.C. openings this off season. We can answer this one quick. I would say like maybe mildly less likely, but I still think his reputation is going to be the thing that gets him a job. I don't think it's going to be like, gee, we really like this guy, but then Keeley Ringo and Adori Jackson struggled. You know what I mean? I also wouldn't even paint those things as bad for him. I mean, he's actually getting a pretty fine level of play out of Adori Jackson. Yeah, I think people will look at what he's done with Quinnion and Mitchell. in Cooper to Gene as like the reason to hire him.

I mean, who's the, I mean, Riley Moss was, was, uh, Riley Moss there when Christian Parker was there? I don't know if he was there for that one year. Okay, but I mean, exactly. We don't even know who the second corner was on those things. Fran will, but we don't. Yeah. And as Fran says, likely to be more available earlier in the hiring process,

which is frankly a pretty big deal. Yeah, absolutely. I think we got them all. If not, maybe we'll mix them in for the Friday episode. like Pat Phineas. He's done a good job with the guys who are good players. Those guys all stink. He's a coach, not a magician.

True. All right. Maybe that's Christian Parker's brother. Good job by everybody contributing to our friends at Big Brothers Big Sisters on this Giving Tuesday. Absolutely. Very generous.

We appreciate you guys. Wasn't this fun? Didn't you have fun? Yeah. Did you feel lazy? I had fun. Did you feel lazy? I had fun.

All right. Maybe we could do this again. Yeah. People are going to be generous. I mean, maybe we can make it a super chat mailbag, but I like a mailbag. Well, yeah, I like an involved question. Yeah. Honestly, the truth is, I like a non-football mailbag question.

I mean, Bobby's... We appreciate everybody. But Bobby's prompt, that was fun. That was a good one. Yeah, got us worked up. It's divisive in a good way. What's that's not divisive is the word Devisive is not the word I was looking for there

Controversial Devices right Devices right? What's wrong with divisive? It's loaded It's charged It's not that charged Anyway That's all we got for today We're coming back tomorrow 2 o'clock

E.J. and me on Thursday Les Bowen is going to be here. We're looking forward to that And by the way, tomorrow morning, you've all seen the clips of Kurt Warner breaking down. Jalen Hertz and that missed to Devante Smith and calling out the coaches. Well, guess what? Kurt Warner is going to be on the PHLY Airwaves tomorrow morning at 10.30 with Anthony Gargana. So don't miss that.

It should be a fun conversation as they talk about what's going on with the Eagles coaching staff. And of course, we've got more shows coming up on the PHLY Airwaves. the rest of the day. We've got the flyers at 4 o'clock. And then the Sixers, pregame show at 6.30, and the postgame show with all the guys. The Wizards.

The Wizards. That'll be a good one. You're a wizard, all right. There we go. So, thanks everybody for donating. Thank you for being here with us in the chat. We will talk to you tomorrow at 2 o'clock. And as always, we love you.

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