PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Eagles Postgame: Jalen Hurts leads offensive rebound, defense SHUTS OUT Vegas in blowout W

Episode Date: December 14, 2025

Jalen Hurts threw three touchdowns and no interceptions while Brandon Graham and the Eagles defense shut out Kenny Pickett and co. in a get-right game for the Eagles that allows us all to collectively... exhale as the Eagles move to 9-5 and inch closer to a repeat NFC East title. Join Fran Duffy, Jamie Lynch and Bo Wulf as they recap the easy win for the good guys and turn ahead to what comes next. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, everybody, and welcome to the P.HO.I. Eagles postgame show, live from the Xfinity Lounge and presented by Bet365 and Ashley. And that was a lot more like it as the Eagles take care of business against the Las Vegas Raiders 31 to nothing. I've got the great Fran Duffy next to me today Vinnie Curry taking the day off and a brand new baby at home we'll see him again next week congratulations to the Curries
Starting point is 00:00:36 give it up in the chat for the curries Jamie Lynch is here I'm Bo Wolfe let's go around the horn your big takeaways from this blowout victory the get right game that was a get right game we start with you Fran it was one of those things where it's a relief
Starting point is 00:00:53 when you have what is gearing up to be a get right game to follow three with that. So you go in expecting that the Eagles should win, they should win comfortably, and then they take care of business on both sides of the football. Offense is efficient. You get some explosive plays. You get a little bit of the run game,
Starting point is 00:01:09 some creativity, you get efficient play from your starting quarterback, and then the defense does what the defense continues to do, and that's just play extremely sound football, and they just put the clamps on this Raiders offense. Or do you, Jamie? Yeah, I don't want to get lost that oh, the Raiders suck, dude.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Yeah, the Raiders do suck. But, like, this couldn't have gone any better for the Eagles today from every element of the they did a little bit of everything on offense the defense shut down a really bad team and hopefully this is you know a snowball effect of getting right here as they year for the playoffs with only three games left you know you needed this you needed as I said at halftime you needed to see the ball go through the hoop and the ball it was a Steph Curry swish today yes I think we will talk mostly about the offense and what we saw in this game and their attempt to get right as it were Jalen Hertz finishes 12 of 15 for 175 yards and three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:02:01 There was a nice 27 yard touchdown to AJ Brown on his final throw of the game. But let's give the defense their flowers here just to start. The Las Vegas Raiders in this game, 75 yards from scrimmage. That's what they gained. 75 yards in the game and getting shut out. That is the fewest yards gained by any team in the NFL this season. It's the fewest yards gained by any team in the NFL since. 2023. So a dominating performance from the Eagles defense. Kenny Pickett finishes 15 of 25 for 64 yards
Starting point is 00:02:36 in an interception. Ashton Genti bottled up to the tune of nine carries for 35 yards. And the pass rush did have its effect on this game. Nolan Smith gets home. Morrow Ogimo gets home. And BG, our compatriot here at P.H.O.I. gets home for two sacks and becomes the oldest player in Eagles franchise history to record a sack. So some flowers for the defense and in a dominated performance against an offense that is very bad and we expected them to dominate but a shutout is a shutout.
Starting point is 00:03:06 That's what you do. I mean, that's what you do against bad teams. Good teams dominate bad teams. And so if you are an Eagles fan that, you know, haven't gotten too far in the dumps and you've been pessimistic through this stretch, through this losing streak, this is a light that you're looking at
Starting point is 00:03:21 and saying like, okay, can this be a turning point? Can this be a pivot point? for the Eagles where now it's all right you get this win here you take care of business against Washington you win a couple of these games here down the stretch and you kind of recognize you look in the mirror and you say like oh yeah we're the reigning Super Bowl champs we are this is the 2024 version of ourselves can they get all the way back there probably not not realistic that they get to that level but if you can get some semblance of that you can get positive momentum rolling into the postseason yeah I think everybody kind of felt like they were a one and done team
Starting point is 00:03:51 but to your point if they can get this rolling over the final four games games maybe all of a sudden that changes and you're at home versus a favorable matchup you win one you never know what can happen i mean even in 2017 in that playoff run like it looked pretty bad versus the falcons at at halftime sure and then it all just clicked um so there's there's a good team in there still uh hopefully these are the baby steps to uh the bigger goal here offensively uh let's talk a little bit fran about what you saw them do in terms of the the game plan here because results-wise, obviously, very good. Their best success rate of the season,
Starting point is 00:04:28 59.1% of the time. Their highest-design run percent of the season at exactly two-thirds running the ball. Second-best EPA per drive, obviously 31 points is very good for them. They hadn't scored over 21 points since the buy. And this Raiders defense coming in was not as bad as the Raiders' offense.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So, like, NFL caliber at the very least. What did you see from, you know, I was going to say Shane Stike? and Eagles fans wish from Kevin Petulow and Nick Siriani in terms of the way that they built out this attack. Yeah, look, they clearly wanted to assert themselves in the ground, you know, and that was certainly a big part of what they were trying to do early on in this game. You made the point as we were watching.
Starting point is 00:05:07 It was like, all right, like every first down, I feel like, all right, they're going under center. We're seeing a lot of run game. That said, I thought that they did some good things from a creativity standpoint in the past game. I thought that there were things that were kind of meshed well together. You know, I mentioned that during the halftime show, and we're going to get into it in the next segment. when I break down that Dallas got her touchdown on the shovel pass.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Like that complimented what they were doing in the run game throughout the course of that opening drive. And so you see the run game married together with the past game. Jalen Hertz was extremely efficient. The ball rarely hit the ground today. And in a game after you have four interceptions, that's just good to see. You come out, take care of the football.
Starting point is 00:05:43 You were aggressive down the field, but you were also just incredibly efficient. This is what you're looking for if you were an Eagles fan. 57%, 58% of the time the Eagles were under center. in this game, friend. That is a season high, and I'm guessing it's the highest they've had in a very long time.
Starting point is 00:06:00 My guess is that it's going to be up there. I have a next gen stat about from Jalen Hertz in this game against zone coverage. Jalen Hertz completed 12 of 15 for 175 yards in a touchdown. That's the total box score in the win. Nine completions for 161 yards in a touchdown
Starting point is 00:06:17 on just 10 attempts against zone. So they played, it was two-thirds zone coverage from the Raiders, which again, this is now three weeks in a row that teams have gone against their profile in terms of playing a little bit more man coverage against the Eagles. I thought that's notable, but Jalen Hertz, a 90% completion
Starting point is 00:06:34 rate against zone coverage, 16.1 yards per attempt against zone coverage, both career highs in this game. Now, the way the Raiders play zone coverage, it's not the same as what the Chargers do in playing zone coverage, where the Chargers, it's a lot of, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:50 pattern match, a lot of disguise, you know, show too high, then convert to one high, show one high, convert to two high, and constantly keep quarterbacks guessing. Raiders are very, they're very static. They got caught in the touchdown for A.J. Brown that was a rotated coverage, but for the most part, what you see is what you get
Starting point is 00:07:05 with that defense. So they're a little bit stationary, so that could be a little bit easier, but give credit to where credit to do. I mean, Jalen balled out today. A really, really efficient day. Once again, 12 of 15 for 175 yards, three touchdowns. The throw to AJ was very nice. I know you're going to break that one down for us in a little bit. And
Starting point is 00:07:21 Jamie, you've been calling for Dallas Goddard to get involved in the offense. Good game for him today, six for 70 and two touchdowns, although it should have been three. Should have been three. Yeah, this offense just looks and feels better when Dallas Goddard is a part of it. Like, they're going across the field,
Starting point is 00:07:38 the middle a little bit more. Some of those late leaking, like, block, you know, dumpouts are always open. I just, they just feel like a better offense when he's involved. Over that six-week stretch, it felt like he had seven catches, maybe. Like, he was completely removed. move from the offense for like a six week period.
Starting point is 00:07:56 So it's good to have them back. Now, Jamie, a week ago, people in the chat are calling for Jillen Hertz's job. Quarterback controversy. For the first time this season, we get to see Tanner McKee throw the ball. Three of three for 33 yards. What do you think? Well, I was wondering why he went and had a cigarette once Darius Cooper called the first. There was a point in the fourth quarter there.
Starting point is 00:08:17 We've got, obviously, we've got the Eagles that. We've got a three screen set up here. Very nice at that PHA on game day. We've got the Eagles on the main screen in the middle. We got the Eagles game on a bit of a delay, like a 10-second delay, so you can watch the replay on the right. And then we've got Red Zone on the left. And there's a point where it's Tanner McKee dotting up Darius Cooper.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And then on Red Zone, it's Christian Ellis making a big play against the bills. And like the Eagles, I think I got my swag. Feeling good. There was a while where Poe had to stay seated for much of that. fourth quarter knocking all kinds of things down here all right yeah good in his very small sample size of course he did yeah but i thought the probably most interesting thing about jalen's day was actually you know he's suff he looks like he gets hurt final play of the third quarter and it's like oh man you know is he going to come out and then tenor's going to come in and then he throws the
Starting point is 00:09:14 beautiful touchdown pass to a j brown it's his last throw of the game and you saw the emotion from him afterwards. Uncharacteristic, especially in a game that was already this lopsided. This was not a game-winning play. This was kind of a narrative busting play. And I think you saw that for as cool as Jalen Hertz always plays it on the outside. I think he was aware that this was the kind of week that he has not dealt with in a very long time. Yeah, I mean, and he knew it coming, literally walking off the field last week, you know, on Monday night, you know, that this was coming for him this week. And so being able to see him react that way,
Starting point is 00:09:55 I'm sure everybody inside that building was happy to see it. The other aspect of it, he had seven runs today, five of them successful. You know, some of them by design. You know, we saw quarterback draws,
Starting point is 00:10:05 some on third and long, you know, third and 12, and he converts a third and 13, he gets a 13 yarder on third and 12. We had zone reads. We had some, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:13 there was a RPO where he kept it and ran it. So there were, there were, you know, a handful of runs there, all by different designs that he was able to get home for. So, no, I think that you said during the week, and rightfully so, Jaylon was missing a little bit of that swagger.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And I'm interested to see what the attitude is like within postgame as well. Yeah, I'm curious to hear from E.J., hear what the locker room is like. And I mean, listen, we're all kind of hoping that this will be like, Jaylon, just go straight to the podium. Yeah. You know, we don't need to wait around this time. Let's go straight out there. He always keeps, he keeps us waiting.
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Starting point is 00:13:03 Go. Download the Game Time app today. All right, we are back on the PHY Eagles post game show, and it's time now for Franz Film Room, presented by, our friends at ashley let's start with the opening drive fran a 14 play drive and it started like you know they needed a penalty on third down to keep that drive going but after that sort of a very patient methodical drive for them that was punched in on a Dallas got a touchdown yeah and just honestly that this drive it felt like a drive from last year where it wasn't necessarily
Starting point is 00:13:36 not the explosive element but the methodical element that you mentioned it was you know you had a mix a run and pass mix of different run schemes but One element we did see over and over again in different forms was counter run action. And so sometimes it was with the running back. Sometimes it was with the quarterback. And here we're going to see a play off of that. Now, what you've got here on this play is the Eagles and 12 personnel. So you've got two tight ends on the field.
Starting point is 00:13:59 You've got A.J. Brown. Here comes Jahan Dotson in motion before the snap. And that's just going to be meant as I can. You're going to bring in the defense, everybody looking to the opposite side of the field. The play is actually going to go this direction. Now, what you're going to get here on this play is what looks like, it could be quarterback counter. Now, what you've got with counter
Starting point is 00:14:18 is you've got a lead blocker who's going to be a kickout, he's going to kick off the defensive end, and then you've got the wrapper that's going to come in and serve as the lead block for whoever the ball carrier is in the backfield. Now, if this were quarterback counter run, basically you'd have Jalen Hertz reading an unblocked defender
Starting point is 00:14:35 and deciding am I going to run behind this block or am I going to hand this ball off to Saquan Barkley to the outside? We saw them hit on numerous explosive players, plays with this exact concept last year. But as we know, this ends up being a touchdown to Dallas Goddard. This is going to be a shovel pass. If you're the Raiders, you don't see this coming because, again, it looks like counter basically every step.
Starting point is 00:14:57 For these linebackers and these safeties, everybody at the second and third level, this is a great play here from Kevin Petulow and the Eagles offense. Now you pitch this off to Goddard, and now he's off and running. You can see you've got hat on a hat at the second level. Goddard's able to get into the end zone for a touchdown, really well scripted, well designed, well executed. Okay. And as you were, you were very excited even during that drive just at seeing the quarterback counter. Yeah. Right. And for them to then not only use that, but use the counter to that was, was literally. Yeah. And what was funny about it was like, they had hit it a couple times early on in the drive. And then it was one of the first plays when they got inside the, when they got inside the 10, they ran counter for like no game. It was a, you know, say it went for zero yards or one yard. And I said out loud in the studio or, you know, when we're watching, I was like,
Starting point is 00:15:43 all right guys they're on to the counter now and then it was the very next play they run they run that counter the counter off the counter with the shovel pass touchdown it was great it was great excellent job lindsay fantastic well let's let's go back to that shot yeah as we break down the later dallas got our touchdown after he had dropped the the other one so this has been described on social media as a as another shovel pass not a shovel pass this one this one to me is just a pure like you would call this a push sweep it's something You might call it a jet sweep. This is just a quick, this is a very good, very good, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Pop pass. I call the pop pass. I think of like Chip Kelly, Brent Selick, like the quick little like RPO over the seam is like a pop pass. Okay. This one, basically what you've got is everybody's blocking it. This is just going to be almost a perimeter run where Jalen Hertz is in the shotgun and he's going to take the snap and it's going to be an instant push right to Dallas Goddard. And again, this is a lateral play meant to hit on the outside.
Starting point is 00:16:39 We remember that that shovel pass that hits in the inside. Goddard here, he is meant to carry this and just get to the edge, get to the force. So ultimately, if anyone's going to make this play, it's going to be a corner here on the outside. But the Eagles do a good job of, again, getting a hat on a hat here. You've got to pin down the defensive end. You don't want any of these outside pursuit players being able to out-leverage the blocking scheme. But they did a great job. Sequin Barkley is going to get out in front here for Dallas-Gotter.
Starting point is 00:17:08 This is going to be very easy. He's just going to be able to get to the edge. Again, everybody does their job. you build this wall so now Goddard just goes on touch this one this one's not a shovel but a nice little push pass here to get Goddard into the end zone can I give you a stat sure again gilin hertz now this this was not necessarily the most difficult assignment that jailen hurts has ever had okay however jillan hurts in this game uh 0.8 0.78 EPA per dropback that is the best game of his entire career wow by EPA for drop back by EPA per drop back now so he he
Starting point is 00:17:42 He bounces back from the Chargers game, which was by EPA per dropback, the third worst of his career, because he had a couple in 2021, but by, you know, five turnovers, the worst of his career. Right. And yeah, of course,
Starting point is 00:17:54 this is a passy that he's playing, but how does he respond in the wind when he doesn't eat, when, you know, we're all talking about before the game, he doesn't usually throw the ball in the wind very well. There were not that many super difficult throws in this game, but in terms of just running the offense, doing the job at hand,
Starting point is 00:18:10 had the best game of his career by EPA. for trapback. He had three downfield throws, the seventh fewest of his career. I saw this on next gen during the break. But he connected on all three, three for three, one hundred and three yards in a touchdown. So it wasn't to have to do a ton down the field, but again, just really efficient, good decisions. It didn't seem like there were any major turn downs. He did a great job. And just for the record, 70% success rate, also the best of his career. There you go. Number one success rate at NEPA. That was according to true media.
Starting point is 00:18:39 It'd be fun to play the Raiders twice a year, wouldn't it? should sneak into the playoffs you know why not you give a chance fantastic okay uh last offensive play to break down is the final throw that jalen hertz has of this game and we're wondering like is he going to come back out for this play and this is the play that elicits that emotion from him he finds a j brown down the middle of the field yeah this was a really well designed play here from the eagles and greg olson did a great job of breaking down the coverage aspect of it from the raiders end of it during the replay that this was an inverted cover too here from the Raiders, where you're going to get the rookie corner, Darian Porter.
Starting point is 00:19:15 He's lined up as a corner here. He's going to drop back as a split safety. So he's going to basically be a cover two safety here on this play. And so now, A.J. Brown, he's going to be running a skinny post. He's got to beat him to that spot. And he's going to try and settle in between the two safeties. But AJ does an outstanding job here of attacking the leverage of the underneath defender because this defender here, he's going to try and get wide.
Starting point is 00:19:40 AJ is trying to create space by working vertically and working horizontally and pushing that limit and just creating more of a throwing lane here for Jalen Hertz down the seam. If he is too shallow with carrying this route down the middle of the field,
Starting point is 00:19:58 that's a tighter window for Jalen to be able to display. Now, Jalen, he does a good job with his eyes of looking to the right, making sure this defender can make an impact, this defender, and more importantly, that safety, that other split safety, he's not going to be able to attack this ball in the middle of the field.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Jaylon Hurts drops back, he hits the top of his drop. He's immediately going to get to A.J. Brown. AJ did a great job here. Greg Olson pointed out that the corner porter did not get over top of this, but A.J. did a really good job in his route of making sure he was in position and make this catch. How about a friend playing through it here today?
Starting point is 00:20:31 We're getting through. You need a water or something? I got something. We'll see. We got T. We got T. You can run out and get a seat. Jamie and I can talk for a second. Yeah, we're right.
Starting point is 00:20:40 How about I read some super chats for you? Then you can read, and then we'll get to your Brandon Graham breakdown here. But we have a two super chats to discuss here. Oreos knacks says, so that's what you all wanted to see, huh? That's there you go. I was entertained. Yeah. Very, very nice.
Starting point is 00:21:00 T. Grant. Floor setting win. Can't say I was confident, but a big relief. Bigger picture off season question. If he's fired from Baltimore with Todd Moran. Munkin be a good option in 2026. Don't the Baltimore players hate the Baltimore offense?
Starting point is 00:21:18 Isn't that some of the whispers coming out there? I respect the question. I think it's a fair dot to connect. I think this is the one day when we can give Kevin Petulow and Jalen Hertz a break. I think that's fair. Let's let them at least enjoy today. Steve Clef.
Starting point is 00:21:38 So I wasn't fast enough to, make a hard-knox joke when Bo was telling them a key Ellis story. So mad, I wasn't fast enough to make a hard-knox joke. Well, then thank you for paying for it on the back end by giving a super chat. And then DNB Mix says, Fran, do you think there can be a complimentary, cohesive offensive scheme when you pair an under-center run game with a spread shotgun passing game? It's tough. You know, I think that you, but you can do it. The big thing it will be, look, every way you line up, and no matter what you're trying to do offensively, you always want to be considered versatile, which is a threat of run,
Starting point is 00:22:19 a threat of pass, a threat of being aggressive and a threat of being conservative, a threat of attacking the middle of the field, a threat of attacking outside. You can run this route, you can run that route, you can run, all the different things. You want the defense to be having to go through. What are the different things they can do from this look? If you only line up and empty, and all you do is one play out of it, you're super predictable. When you go under center, if all you do is run duo, everyone knows, they're under center, we're on a duo.
Starting point is 00:22:45 So the more you can do from every look, the better. So, yeah, you can do it, but it just requires that you are very disciplined with making sure that you stay varied with your different play calls out of those looks. And what I will say about the way that they were successful on offense in this game that may not be repeatable is that it was not like they fixed the running game in this game.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Seekman Barkley, 22 carries for 78 yards. That's 3.5 yards. carry that's not great no but i think what they did and what their goal in this game probably was was to not get behind the sticks and i know that that can be kind of a a maddening thing but i think they probably were in second and third in medium a little bit more than they had been in past weeks yeah and when the passing game was dialing it up as well as it was today that's successful you know jalen hurts obviously the numbers that we've talked about but um i i don't think that that's super sustainable against better defenses,
Starting point is 00:23:42 but it's encouraging that the passing game was able to handle that and led the way today. Am I wrong? Am I on an island here? The run game felt better than that today. It felt better. To me, I think that a lot of it was like, there was like a minus four, there was a minus two, there was a minus six.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like there were a handful plays. The negative plays were bigger, relatively negative plays. Plus, take Bigsby looked better too. Yeah. You know, 17 for 57, but a bunch of that at the end. And then Jalen, as you mentioned, 7 for 309. I think that felt better too. You noted that you felt like they were getting more movement up front.
Starting point is 00:24:16 It seemed that way in the first half for sure. Yeah, and Seekwon ripped off too towards in the third quarter late for like 10 plus. So yeah, it did feel better. Second week in a row that's done that. Yes, that's true. Two double digit runs in a row. All right. Let's flip it over to the defensive side of the ball and PG, my man. Come. I mean, absolutely. And I do appreciate the, you know, this is a good, good team player thing for Cooper DeGine to do to when he knows that the holding penalty
Starting point is 00:24:45 is going to negate Brandon Graham's sack, commit a post-snap penalty, a personal foul, so they take that one and then your boy gets his sack. Smart. We appreciate that. Heady player. That's outstanding job. That's P-H-L-Y synergy is what that is. By the way, pretty good shove by Coop there. You guys got some strength to him.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Now, there was a little bit of a flop, but it was a solid, like, hand check. Yeah. Yeah. Give him a good look. It's got those heavy hands. the second one though for bg is the one you're going to break down for us yes um i'm going to try not to go get too excited maybe that'll maybe that'll help me you'll last a little bit longer um all right so second sack here for brandon graham uh it happens on third and six uh so he gets the eagles off off the field here on this play bg lined up at defensive tackle which is where we've seen him
Starting point is 00:25:27 over the last couple of games now the two defenders that i want or the one defender i want you to take note of here outside of bg is quignon mitchell because what we're going to see here from the Raiders is that they're going to send the receiver Trey Tucker on a shallow cross and then they're going to send their slot receiver on a deep over route. And this is where the synergy from this Eagles back seven really
Starting point is 00:25:48 comes into play and you start getting into how the rush benefits the coverage and how the coverage can benefit the rush. Last week, the coverage absolutely benefited from the Eagles pass rush, getting after Justin Herbert over and over and over again. Those guys were barely tested. Here's a good example of the inverse happening
Starting point is 00:26:04 where, again, what you're going to see here from the Raiders is that they're going to send this receiver on the shallow cross and again that was Quinion Mitchell's man Quinion is matched up with this guy one-on-one in single coverage but watch what happens
Starting point is 00:26:17 is that Zach Bond is now going to pick up this shallow cross and you can see the communication happened here with the Eagles now Quinion he sees all right I'm going to pass my guy off now I'm going to fall back in coverage meanwhile by the way
Starting point is 00:26:31 keeping an eye on Brandon Graham he comes off the ball and just bench presses the guard, immediately gets an instant pushback, knocks him back at one step into the backfield, and then just completely bulldozes him back into the quarterback's lap into Kenny Pickett's lap. But staying with the coverage aspect, again, Zach Bond picks up the shallow cross. Quinion recognizes right away, all right, Zach Bond's got my guy. I'm going to fall back here, and you can just see Kenny Pickett's eyes here.
Starting point is 00:27:00 He gets locked on to this target. And once he sees that Quinaa Mitchell falls off, he says, look, I can't throw this. if I throw it, Fran's going to get a swooper point because he's got Queeniehan Mitchell getting an interception. I can't have that happen. We got to get, we got to make sure E.J. gets the point here. So now, he yields on to the football. Quignon is over here, literally getting under this route.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And you could see, B.G is just bench, again, just abusing this right guard. Bench presses them into the quarterback's lap. And that results in us getting the second sack celebration of the afternoon from Brandon Graham. Fantastic. BG. You were trying not to get excited.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Then you started talking Swooper and that this took me over the edge. Somebody mentions the Nolan Smith sack when he does just like, I mean, there's not much to break down other than just runs the guy over, but he was helped by the chipper a little bit. He was helped by the chipper. I was trying to get the NFL. So like literally when I'm doing these for post game, I am beholden by the clips that are available to us on social media, right? To find good because if it's just someone recording their TV, the quality's not good.
Starting point is 00:28:02 The screen grab doesn't look good. So I'm like, all right. You feel like your fan fished. Your fan fish for the screen grab. So we'll have to wait for the Nolan Smith sack until tomorrow at 2 o'clock. Like that. Good tease.
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Starting point is 00:30:42 Beef of the Wii. Now, for Anderson, in the Vinny's seat, if you're just joining us, Vinnie Curry. A lot of pressure here. Congratulations to the Curry family. Vinnie will be back with us next week. New baby. Very exciting. But you get to be the decider. of the beef of the week, which goes to the player of the game on either side of the line of scrimmage.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Where are you going? I mean, Nolan Smith got his third sack since returning from injured reserve. Jordan Davis, you know, he continues strong level of play, a bunch of run stops against Ashton Genti. Drew Kendall got to play in this game. Drew Kendall getting his first action. Ty Robinson.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Ty Robinson out there. But come on. It's got to be 55. It's got to be Brandon Graham, two sacks. I posted Per Elias Sports Bureau the first time a PHAY employees recorded two sacks in a game
Starting point is 00:31:36 I've got to go with Brandon Graham here True Media has that as well There we go It's always good to see your co-work contribute to a big win Yeah absolutely Congratulations to Brandon Graham That was off
Starting point is 00:31:47 This week's episode of Unblocked with Brandon Graham I'm sure we'll talk plenty about that And what it felt like to get to do the little Do we think he's going to win the Slack channel Like win of the week Oh, good question.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Lizzie. She should be nominated for the win of the week. Good point. I like that. Well, that'll do it for the righteous felon beef of the week. Let me find out some snap counts here for us as we. Snappy snaps?
Starting point is 00:32:17 Some snappy snaps. By the way, we got some OG hickory beef sticks at home. We got a ski trip the last week of the year. And Addie's already planned. And she's like, these are perfect for the mountain. Just throw a little righteous felon beef. stick in the old jacket and you're good to go for the death I see them everywhere yeah everywhere it's because they're delicious yes snap counts are not fully up yet
Starting point is 00:32:37 actually it's just through the first half so I promise something that I couldn't deliver I apologize okay hey speaking of snap counts though can I give you my one complaint to this game Jahad Gamble yes what do you got I mean it's 31 to nothing yeah he Nikobitian makes an awesome play to get a TFL But I'm thinking to myself, man, like, this is the time to have Jihad Campbell on the field. He played, I think, two or three series while this game was still not over. I mean, it was over, but, yeah, he had that TFL and you said you made the point. You were like, that was a nice play by Nekobi.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Can we, can we see Jihad out there? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. As soon as this started, I was, I got queasy about it for this reason. Like, because, again, it's not like Jihad has been bad when he's been out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I would like to see him more, but I know, it's hard. It's also, I mean, there's a dominant defensive performance. It is hard to evaluate this defensive performance because it's just that bad on the other side. The eagle, so this is next gen. The Eagles allowed the fewest yards by any defense of this season in this game, 75 yards against the Raiders. An average of 1.0 yards per dropback.
Starting point is 00:33:53 On first downs, the Eagles allowed a success rate of just 13.3%, fourth lowest of any defense this season. Just one explosive play in the duration of the game. Fourth time this season and offense has been held to one or fewer explosive plays. The Eagles did not miss a tackle. First game by any defense this season. Wow, that's a good one. Brandon Graham earned his first two sacks the season on just seven pass rushes.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Quinion Mitchell notched his seventh game, allowing 10 or fewer yards in coverage this season the most of any corner. So that's just a stat. I would like to say it does feel like Marcus Epps being at safety instead of Sydney Brown is just. a little bit of a clarifying thing on defense and allows there to not just be a big hole. But I don't, I think even Sidney Brown today would have been fine against this Raiders team. Honestly, like anybody's ever said about the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I did look it up. I did look it up because I felt the same way that all Eagles fans do when Sidney Brown committed a penalty on special teams. He is in fact tied for the league lead in penalties committed on special teams this season by a non-specialist. by a non-specialist by a non-specialist wow good job sidney but you know who else he's tied with someone we know obviously yes okay
Starting point is 00:35:06 someone we know someone we know loves someone we know loves uh Dorian Thompson Robinson very close who does EJ love the only other person
Starting point is 00:35:24 who would make sense I got nothing we got Cam Latu Oh really is four penalties this year I honestly didn't even I wouldn't even thought of it Wow Yeah
Starting point is 00:35:35 man the Eagles stuff That's a lot of special teams penalties They do have a lot of special teams penalties You got the two leaders That was another good thing of today's game There wasn't a lot of like sloppy BS penalties Absolutely right They cleaned that up
Starting point is 00:35:47 You know we talked about everything going right Three penalties on the game for the year Yeah I mean that's a major one Because that's inexcusable how sloppy they've been the past couple weeks. Very good point. Very good point. This was like everybody
Starting point is 00:35:58 settled down and get back to basics. Yeah. Yeah. Get the bunny out of the locker room. Thank God. It's just... Who gets credit for the bunny kill? Is that Big Dom with the bunny murder?
Starting point is 00:36:09 Under his belt there? Anybody but AJ Dillon. Why is he still here? So a big picture in terms of the playoff standing. Okay. Let's talk about this. Now, Eagles, magic number in the NFC East is now two.
Starting point is 00:36:25 They are two and a half games up on the Cowboys. Cowboys play tonight against the Vikings. At nine and five, the Eagles right now would still slot in as the three seed in the NFC. Feels like that's what they're destined for, right? I think that is the most likely scenario. Yes. Now, it's not crazy for them to catch the Packers and or Bears
Starting point is 00:36:46 because obviously they have the tiebreaker over the Packers, but the Packers have a tie, so it's tough for there to be one there. but if the Packers lose who they play Monday night or they play today? Packers play today. The afternoon, yeah, they're playing right now. Or in like 20 minutes because this game ends up so fast. This could be the most of the afternoon games
Starting point is 00:37:06 we've ever gotten to watch. That's great. That's true. So even if the Packers win today, the Eagles will be a game and a half back. Right. That's a great game. Packers have some tough games.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Packers at Broncos. That's a good one. Oh, that's right. Packers Broncos. And Lions Rams. There's some good games this afternoon. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And the Chiefs are officially... And we got Philip Rivers playing. Yeah, it's looking like me out there. Cowboys tonight. And the Chiefs officially missed the playoffs. Crazy. And it looked like Mahomes got hurt. It looks like he got hurt.
Starting point is 00:37:36 People are speculating the knee, possibly. He didn't get up right away. But yeah, an NFL season where Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs aren't in the playoffs is bonkers. Wild. Another super chat we have from... Um, go birds. Howie after the game to Jeffrey Lurie. Tank looked good, but, you know, he's an elite returner in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:38:02 We're just going to keep him fresh for the postseason. It's a good callback. I appreciate it. We, uh, I think we've had, or no, I think David is texting A.J. Brown and J. Hurts after the game. Congratulations. I think he's texting A.J. Dillon. Hey, nice try with the bunny.
Starting point is 00:38:24 What was worse? The motivational text group or the... Definitely the bunny. I mean, the bunny was definitely. I mean, at that point, when it was created, Devin White thought he was a leader on defense. That's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Yeah, the bunny's pretty bad. At the time he brought in the bunny, AJ Gillen hadn't been active in like two months. Eish. Hmm. Ooh. So, Eagles, next week, Saturday, 5 o'clock, go down
Starting point is 00:38:53 to Landover to play the commanders who beat the Giants today and then they of course go to Buffalo in two weeks that'll be a difficult test and then they'll close the season home against the commanders and I do think boy I mean it would be great if they were
Starting point is 00:39:09 to finish this stretch 4 and O and win in Buffalo 3 and 1 is totally fine yeah yeah I mean the Bills 1 would give you the most kind of momentum back in the back pocket but yeah
Starting point is 00:39:24 if you go three of the last four it's totally fine bills came back and beat the paths today that's not going to be an easy one up there in Buffalo but the commanders I mean come on
Starting point is 00:39:36 they can't be playing Jaden Daniels down the stretch here no but but there is a there is a real difference between the commanders and the Raiders like sure the commanders have some real players they have real coaches
Starting point is 00:39:49 they're gonna they're gonna play hard ish like it's also a division game that is not going to be as much of a walk in the park no i mean the eagles lost to the giants this year right like it's not going to be the same as today the raiders had 45 yards on the opening drive and 31 or something the rest of the game no i don't think the commanders are going to be that bad they i do think the the commanders from a run game standpoint they are they could do some things creatively like x-and-o wise that like chicago did like with the motion stuff um So I'll be interested to see what the Eagles answers are from that step, from like a pure X-N-O standpoint.
Starting point is 00:40:25 All right, let me give you an ACE hardware home services temperature, temperature check. Temperature check. We're making an ace call this week. That's right. This is the temperature check presented by our friends at Ace Harder Home Services. How much does this game, this one performance, assuage your bigger picture concerns about Jalen and the way he's played the last two months? go to the film to feel better about this feeling but it's what you wanted to see
Starting point is 00:40:56 if you think that he's going to turn it's so I would say like if I'm going to grade it on a one to five scale with a five being like oh yeah we are so back we're like this offense is back coming and one is like I'm not moved at all probably like a three and a half four maybe not four is probably strong
Starting point is 00:41:13 so like three four is fine uh four five five is like we are back yeah i would say four is probably i'm not quite the force okay four would be strong so here's my issue okay if you're going three and a half right then make it a ten point scale yes yeah i know look i didn't like set i didn't set it all uh i didn't say it all you know yeah i think it all the way through you knew that's fine the illusion of uh accuracy is good um yeah i think this was i think this was a very good just okay thank you
Starting point is 00:41:48 yes like it's it's in there that's good yep and yeah you know you keep making the basketball comparisons I think they saw the ball through the hoop that's good yep and there is also something too they need to play with some confidence no doubt absolutely and that goes for the coaches
Starting point is 00:42:07 too which does allow me to go with the one temperature check thing that is going to make me steam which is is once again not the difference in this game not a big deal but the Eagles get the ball first half at the end of the first half
Starting point is 00:42:24 with three timeouts 30 seconds 30 plus seconds left yeah they're in there at their own 20 yard line they've been moving the ball against the Raiders would you be a bully for once please they run the ball once and let the clock run out they do this every week and
Starting point is 00:42:43 we were it was the hard I've laughed all day because you had a swooper thing here and we knew exactly what's going to happen. They were just going to turtle. Why is that? Why are they not allowed to do that? They didn't get the ball at the start of the second half. They didn't get the ball at the start of the second half. And what was really funny about, not funny for me, but what we had a good laugh about it was as the Eagles were getting ready to go out in the field, they go to, they cut to Nick Siriani. He's just like pacing the sideline, but he's just walking down the sideline. It literally looks like he's just walking to the tunnel. Like, all right. Yeah, like, we're done here.
Starting point is 00:43:15 it's it's dumbfounding to me i don't understand it uh to do it time and time and time again especially for a team that's just like prides itself on situational football we want to make sure we rep stuff out like this is a good opportunity against a bad defense say hey you know what like let's let's let's run our two minute trail let's let's kind of get let's get let's get our groove back it's it's it's very strange they're never going to do it like because today was the perfect time it was a live practice versus guys i mean there really was there was no downside to doing it today. I mean, I say no downside.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Of course, he could throw a pick six. Sure. Whatever. But even then, like, you're still probably going to beat the Raiders. Even if he does throw a pick six there, it's the perfect opponent to take that chance with. And to your, I mean, to your point about a practice, and exactly what you just said, like, at some point, they're going to have to run. Yes. You think.
Starting point is 00:44:04 And you're going to need to go get some points. You should try to do it. Yeah. It's pretty pathetic. So that's my ACE Hardware Temperature Check, presented by Ace Harder Home Services. What are you going to give them a call about this week? What's going on? I got that we got dishwasher.
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Starting point is 00:44:44 Don't put me. Thankfully, no, there's no beeping. No, thankfully there's no beeping, but it won't let me reset it at all. So there's just water in the bottom. I took everything out. So, yeah, the ACE is coming out this week. Thank goodness for ASAR rooms.
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Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah. I'm going, I'm going his dad's cangle. Oh, that would be good. Reindeer. Reindeer hat. It could be a Christmas hat. That looks like a chipmunk. Stay tuned. Find out.
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Starting point is 00:48:09 Fran Duffy, Jamie Lynch, E.J. Smith. Red, Frank, call me out. In a little bit? When will I learn, he says. Learn about what? Hmm. Did I miss that reference? Maybe he's talking about, maybe he's talking about the talking during the end.
Starting point is 00:48:22 He thought that that was you. Maybe. When it was just me making a joke. You know, can't turn it off. Okay. Any other little leftovers before we get to E.J. One thing I thought was interesting, and you were right about this, was when they take out Jalen and put in Tanner McKee,
Starting point is 00:48:41 you got to take out the other guys too. You can't just let you can't just let Tanner be out there with the ones. With AJ and Devante. No, yeah. So AJ and Devante are out. Right. Obviously, we know that Tanner McKee and Darius Cooper
Starting point is 00:48:52 have an amazing connection. That looks good. Derris Cooper looks like a star. But the offensive line, a little bit interesting. You go, Drew Kendall replacing Cam Juergens at center, Brett Tooth replacing Leonard Dickerson at left guard, and Matt Pryor replacing Jordan Milit at left tackle. Steen and Fred Johnson stay on.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Yeah, it's about what we expected. You know, when we were talking about, who's going to be in, who's going to be out. I think when you're looking at the dynamics at play when you know Jalen Hertz is coming out, yeah, like they had to make those other changes as well. And we should also say, as we're talking big picture, that the reports from this morning the national people that Lane Johnson expected to return to practice this week, pointing towards playing next week against the commanders. he has his dally and swithy dreaded harlot Liz Frank
Starting point is 00:49:39 coming to an end that's gonna be nice I mean what's and what's the word on Jalen Carter what are we expecting timeline wise has there been any whispers here BG play it like that who needs him I mean yeah potentially he's on he's an IR
Starting point is 00:49:56 right no I know I are okay so that's no IR all right so he could do right because he was an act of today so yeah right I mean adding to all pro caliber players here down the home stretch as Stella's getting your groove back hopefully that's pretty big what do we got going on over there I think Fran's iPad is getting excited oh this is you're really taking taking Finney's place I had to I had to shut off the iPad so EJ could see us that's what the issue was so I just kicked Fran's iPad out I kicked
Starting point is 00:50:30 friends that's what does that mean that we have EJ EJ is ready all right well in that case let's send it to the link our eagles insider e j smith is with us oh i don't have audio oh he doesn't have audio you guys are muted on my end do you hear us now yes i got you now okay this is it this is a little bit of a hat this is a hat letdown what do you mean i mean i didn't say it was like a crazy hat it's not a like a positivity beanie uh uh benevolent beanie it's nothing crazy but it's it's nice hat. I mean, it's a fine hat, but you, you teased it on the kickoff show like you had a hat. You were looking forward to showing us. They over promised and underdelivered. I wasn't trying to make it sound like the hat was cool.
Starting point is 00:51:17 It was just necessary. It's cold out here, guys. I mean, I'm worried my phone is going to blow over from the, from the intense wind down here at the south side of the stadium. So, you know, this is a good look at what the conditions were like for the game. But no, I was just, I was just, like, relieved I had a hat. That's really all I was upset. Ethan in the chat is correct. He says we've been fanfished by EJ's hat. I had to watch a tape back on that.
Starting point is 00:51:42 I didn't make it. I wasn't trying to make it sound like this. As I read, Jamie, you correct me if I'm wrong, but my memory of it was, hey, thanks guys. I'll talk to the post game show. Oh, and by the way, I cannot wait to show you this. Yeah. There was a big TV game show. I'm really
Starting point is 00:51:58 excited for it. I've been thinking just especially for today. day. That's how I remember it. No. No, it's just I just needed that. That's all. But listen, I just came from the Eagles locker room. It was a quick locker room. Guys were like out of there very quickly with more simple. I hope my phone was all over. But yeah, we got some notes that we get to. Let's get to it. E.J.'s notebook presented by your company here. The good people at P.H.O.I. Right. First and foremost, Brandon Graham broke the team down in the locker room after the after the game obviously he had a multi-sac game we heard from bg he said
Starting point is 00:52:36 he he apologized to kennie picket he said he can he picket was just the guy in the way today but no i mean it was kind of an important part of what has become a remarkable story and you know xiriani said that that wasn't lost on him uh say he broke the defense or broke the team down in the post game locker room uh the next one is sticking with sayquan you know sequin barcly talked about two things uh that were a big part of the offensive game plan that really worked for the eagles as well today. The first was the fact they stuck with the run, even though he wasn't as productive early in the game. They're willingness to stick with it. He said that Kevin Petullo deserve a lot of credit for sticking with the run game and getting things going that way. And the other thing
Starting point is 00:53:13 that Saquan said that I found interesting is that he said that they dictated terms to the Raiders defense. I think you saw that in the way that they played. So, you know, Nick Seriani kind of downplayed this being maybe an identity for the Eagles offense today. But I think it's clear from watching that performance that this is something they can build on and that's the last one is is this something that they can build on you know obviously this was a you know it's extremely dominant defensive performance uh you know to have a shut out in the NFL is no small feet but offensively I think that they did uncover some things that they can build off of I think it's important to remember that this Raiders team maybe isn't the greatest defense but still some some
Starting point is 00:53:52 hints of an identity I think is uh you know my big takeaway from the offense in this game there you go AJ's notebook thank you very much let's let's start with just the the vibe I know that there were the guys got out of there quickly but you told us that last week was the first time where they sort of really felt down even though it was
Starting point is 00:54:11 the third straight loss in a row was there was there this was just kind of business taken care of or was there a bit of more jubilation to the fact that they were able to come out and look like who they wanted to look like I definitely think there was joy in that post game locker room you know
Starting point is 00:54:27 an Eagle staffer walked by and said, you guys don't have anybody at interview. Everyone's out of here quickly, but I think, you know, you saw guys in their street clothes on the way out. They were in good moods, you know. It wasn't like a, you know, a locker room that felt like business as usual.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I mean, it really, I knew we expected them to beat the Raiders, but I think the message in the life of an afterworld was one of how, just how dominant the defense was, you know, how special that is, you know, Nick Siriani. I thought I was going to get to the locker room and be able to quiz players about wins a lot of, last time an Eagles defense had a shut out, but Nick Siriani had shouted that out in the post-game breakdown, apparently. So they all-2018 against Washington. Yep. Yep. So, yeah, no, that was definitely,
Starting point is 00:55:09 I definitely got the sense when we walked in that we had just entered a room that just had a big celebration for sure. So, and I had a funny note for you guys. Teg Bigsby, I don't know if you You guys are familiar. I never heard of the easy in this context. Pengsby was running around with like athletic tape, throwing it off of players' chests, trying to like catch on their chess hair. And it was very disappointed that Jalen Hertz does not have chess hair. So he couldn't get the starting quarterback with his with his off the easy game. He's got the Penn Johnson going.
Starting point is 00:55:46 He does have the Ben Johnson going, yes. But why is this a no cell? like the off the easy story. I'm just trying to think. Is someone going to ask Jalen if he's like a shave all over? Does he wax? Like we got to get to the bottom of this in the press conference. Won't be me.
Starting point is 00:56:06 It's not going to be me. This is an interesting subplot. A joyful locker room. Yeah. All of a sudden I. You don't need to talk about. This is the most interesting reporting that any Eagles reporter. can do down the stretch.
Starting point is 00:56:23 What are we calling this game? I'm not going to do any reporting on Chester. Off the heasy. You know, like the kids would say, like off your, off the heasy. I think it's like an NBA jam or like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it takes me back to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I got no other reporting on this and I will not be doing any more reporting on, on the people who are susceptible or not susceptible to the game that tank thinks be placed. Time for me to bust off, bust out the jumps. I've been waiting for something to get me back in the game. Someone go up to the roof and turn on the bat signal for both. This could be it. This could be it. This is very exciting.
Starting point is 00:57:04 All right. Thank you, Tank Bigsby. In terms of just watching the game there from the stands, E.J., the defense we've sort of talked about. I mean, awesome performance, but took care of business. What did you think about just the way that they approached the game offensively? and sort of the game plan. And I guess did you have any color on that from the locker room? Yeah, just the amount of under center that they ran.
Starting point is 00:57:27 And again, like the consistency. By the way, I haven't known on that. I didn't follow up. Highest percentage of under center for an Eagles team since 2016. Wow. By far the highest of the Syrian era. Okay. Yeah, to me, this, I think that Jalen hurts,
Starting point is 00:57:43 not just the way that he played, but the way that he operated within the scheme, stand out to me, the willingness to be under center. the willingness for more of the RPR, the RPO game to be a big function of the offense. I asked Nick Siriani about that. And he said that these are always things that they want to get to offensively. They're always, you know, components of the Eagles offense. But we have not seen them, you know, be this big a part of the offense very much this season.
Starting point is 00:58:08 So I think Jalen's, you know, the willingness and the openness to be part of those elements of the scheme and to be productive in them, I think that is a really big guy. It's a building block. Like I said, it's something that they can build off. Again, I think we knew that the offense would probably look better against this Raiders defense. But I think that the process of finding an identity was an important step for this, for this group, just, you know, even if you take the opponent out of it,
Starting point is 00:58:37 if you tell me that they're starting to find answers and they're starting to figure out what they do well, I think that that is significant. So in the off the hazy thing, it's like a balled up. Roll of tape. What is that? Yeah, that's what I don't understand using. It's like a balled up roll of ankle tape, you know? Like, you can find them everywhere.
Starting point is 00:58:58 And every locker room ever. Yeah, yeah, definitely is probably not as sticky. But I think if you throw it out at the right person, it probably sticks. But it did not, yeah, like I said, Jalen Hertz was not susceptible to tag Bigsbee's tactics here. I'm surprised it requires hair to stick. It shouldn't need necessarily, but easier to stick. Yeah, more uncomfortable if it's sticking hair.
Starting point is 00:59:19 No, I mean, it's not that's a gentle toss. Oh, yeah. He's not like going and smacking it up. Yeah, he could like, you know, fire one in there. If you whip it. Yeah. Also, it depends on like, you know, is it, is it like more a little bit meatier part of the breast or is it like right in the middle of the chest? Where then it's just going to be a backboard, it's not going to stick.
Starting point is 00:59:46 You know, it depends on where I don't like where we're going with this now. I would like, what is there? Do we have the A dot on like on four for Biggs be there? Like what's the average depth of toss? Is he like really close? Is he, is he across the locker room? No, it's like late career Drew Brees. A dot.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yeah. It's very short. Yeah. Important question from the chat, E.J. Would it, would it stick on you? Really getting personal. I mean, I feel like the chat could probably guess. what the case is here, I mean.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Wow. The imagination is running wild right now. No surprises with me there. I think it's probably what you'd expect. Yeah. Now I don't know what that means. That makes me somehow more curious. Yeah, I was going to say the beard.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I think it's, uh, yeah. Yeah, like, it's an extension of the beard. Yeah. Does it, do I look like a guy who shaves constantly? That's the question I'd ask. That's the question with the question. Well, that's a good reminder to bring us to the other important thing that happened today. And this game was over during the pregame show when you told us that your wife was there at this game,
Starting point is 01:01:01 with tailgating with a bunch of the other nurses. I mean, we got, we got baby nurses going to the game. Of course they're going to win this game. You can't get better vibes than that. This is a group of women. And I think it was all women today. It was a group of women that take care of babies with heart problems. Like, you know, you can't get much better vibes than those people.
Starting point is 01:01:24 So, yeah, no, they got here already. And what have the Eagles been for the past month? Babies with heart problems. Yeah. They've been acting like babies and they've been playing with no heart. Thank God they were there today. They turned the season around. And my wife's initial score prediction, I gave her four stabs at it,
Starting point is 01:01:43 but her initial one was 31 points. So she got that. She got that part right. See, maybe she didn't predict a shut out. You know, she's not too much of a homer. But she did better than me, honestly. I was expecting a low-scoring game. I love how Julius presence there obviously brought good vibes.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Your, your attempt at bringing good vibes was that was that chipmunk with with antlers from Thursday. Paige loves the chipper chipmunk. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She was very excited. Oh, beautiful.
Starting point is 01:02:11 We got to break. I think we got to break that news here that, that she is now in possession, your dog. Yeah. She is a positivity prancer So it looks like a reindeer to a four-year-old EJ All right Well that makes two of us
Starting point is 01:02:24 I think it looks like a reindeer But you know my my co-host The no cell continues But listen My wife thought it was a dog toy Very spirited discussion in the chat As it continues about the amount of men With beards and no hair
Starting point is 01:02:38 The rest of their body But you know I mean that's a pretty strange combo It's like You can't trust the guy Listen, I'm not saying this, but my dad would always tell me you can't trust a man with a beard and no mustache. Like, kind of the same genre there. I mean, he's 100% right about that.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Anti-chinstress. I don't want to offend anybody, but yeah. Well, I feel like Michael Jordan was fairly hairless. So the ergo, Jalen Hertz is a body waxer. That does make a lot of sense. Yeah. Good angle. This is not where I thought our locker room discussion was.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I shouldn't be surprised. I shouldn't be surprised. It's a feel good win. Let's feel good. You know what I mean? Do you think that this is sustainable? Do I think it's sustainable? It's a good question.
Starting point is 01:03:29 I think that the defense is good enough to carry them through postseason games. And I think that the offense is figuring out some of the things they can lead on to be competent. So do I think that this team is all of a sudden a Super Bowl contender? Again, not quite there yet, but I think I feel a little bit better about the formula that I think they have, which is the defense pitches, you know, not a shutout, but a lights out game and the offense puts together a couple of, you know, high variance drives, explosive, you know, maybe rely on explosive plays and this run game at times during games to kind of just like, again, be average. I think that's all we've been asking for the last few weeks. So slightly sustainable, I would say. But again, this isn't going to change, change my evaluation too much.
Starting point is 01:04:16 You need the offense to take a page out of Adory Jackson's book. See, he's good degrees. Yeah, I mean, that guy, yeah. No, honestly, that guy's played so much better the last couple of weeks. You know, it's like it's been interesting to talk to him week in and week out. Like his confidence never wavered and now really starting to see it on the field. Obviously, again, weaker competition today. But still, he made a couple nice plays and has really settled in.
Starting point is 01:04:37 All right. If you are a diehard, you can check out. about Fran Duffy's draft guide for the 2026 season. And also, you'll be able to read EJ's column coming off the game today. What will you be writing about, Mr. Smith? The question you just asked me, which is like, what, to parse out, you know, my former colleague, Jeff McLean used to always call these games nothing burgers, right? And I actually, you know, I texted one of my other former colleagues and bet $100
Starting point is 01:05:02 that he would call this game a nothing burger, you know, because it is. It's like this game went about how you'd expect. But I think there are still things you can learn from this. I think I'm just that's what that's what I want to write about is like what can you take from this what do you what do you throw out with you know the matchup being a lot sided one you know really what does this mean for the grand scheme of things for the Eagles and I think it's an interesting question all right well we look forward to reading that on all phton.com E.J did you know by EPA for dropback and success rate the best game of Jalen Hertz's career yeah so stick that up your 15 mile an hour wind stat and whatever and smoke good, right? I mean, I don't know if it was 15 miles an hour. Stick it up ends me. I don't know. I don't remember the expression, but I mean, I came on the pregame show talking about Jalen Hertz 15 mile an hour win plus games and how it
Starting point is 01:05:57 hasn't been great. And no, he played really well today. And I thought that I'm sure you guys talked about it, but I thought that the celebration for the post route to AJ and the end zone literally right next to me here, I thought that was telling on, you know it's like he's hearing you know conversation about him getting benched all week uh you know you just gotten nicked up with the i think it was probably either an ankle or a knee uh some kind of lower body injury to throw that touchdown pass there and have that you know release i think that that that that was a significant moment probably one that we will remember if this team does make some noise in the postseason that's a turnaround moment for this offense that to be like a walk
Starting point is 01:06:32 off moment too for the game as well like it's like all right like yeah 13 minutes left in the game like all right Tanner, you can go in now with the rest of the two. So that was a big moment, certainly. Yeah, everybody wanted to see Tanner so bad. So they get to see, they get to see Tanner now, right? That's, there's some significance there. Yep. Well said.
Starting point is 01:06:48 All right, Jay. Thank you so much. I love a good story. Yeah. It's just like good storytelling right there from Jalen Hertz, right? Yes, absolutely. Good storytelling and good waxing out of Jalen Hertz. Maybe he's a little waxing poetic on the game afterwards.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Okay. Thanks, AJ. We'll talk to you tomorrow. to a clock on the page of the way of the show all right guys talk soon cool hat jay all right he really he he handed up the hat that was disappointing the great job by you jay good hit he definitely gaslit us about the hat situation yeah yeah yeah yeah what are you gonna do yeah reports are it has gotten absolutely freezing outside uh from my wife nice so it is very cold beautiful all right well be careful out there tonight everybody the flyers are playing right now so make
Starting point is 01:07:39 sure you check out the p hely flyers post game show with our friends who are here final thoughts here on the eagles 31 to nothing domination of poor kenny picket and the los vegas raiders fran yeah i mean it's just a total team effort in the win and exactly what you're hoping for if you again were optimistic that this team could turn it around and make some kind of run and make some noise here in the postseason this is what you want to do i said at the top good teams dominate bad teams and that's what you saw here from the eagles today yeah i don't want to make too much of it that they fixed uh what was wrong but it was certainly a about as good of a step as you could take in in writing the wrongs of the past couple weeks everything went well they were
Starting point is 01:08:19 disciplined jalen was good the defense was great i think uncle vick those that stat about 45 yards on the first drive and 31 after the rest of the game it's crazy i mean uncle vic is he was yards given up in two seasons that's that's why i don't care who your opponent is those are professionals in the nfl like that's nasty work eagles defense does the job domination and the offense bounces back does uh does what they need to do jalen hurts once again 12 of 15 for 175 yards three touchdowns a 154.9 passerating the second best of his career and all of a sudden everybody can breathe a bit of a sigh of relief as the Eagles now point towards a game
Starting point is 01:09:07 next Saturday against the Washington commanders. That'll do it. And you're going to get the greatest eagle ever back. Lane Johnson. There you go. That's an extreme positive. Shots fired at A.J. Dillon. But, I've made the case.
Starting point is 01:09:22 I just, you know, the bit of the record with and without him continued on. And two-time champion, maybe the best of his position ever. And maybe from one, X Eagles back up to another if it's Marriota next week instead of Jane Daniels?
Starting point is 01:09:38 I got to think it's going to be Marriott again. Why would you put Gene Daniel again? The guy's already an injury-prone player with his style of play. Why risk it? What are you doing? Get ready for next year. I guess we'll find out.
Starting point is 01:09:52 That'll do it. We are back tomorrow, 2 o'clock for the regular PHOI Eagles show. Fran will be breaking down the snappy snaps and much more coming your way this week on PHOY. Thanks to everybody for watching and listening. Leave a comment below, like the video, subscribe to the channel, and we'll talk to you tomorrow for all of us here at PHOI. As always, we love you.

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