PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Eagles Training Camp: John Metchie debuts as Johnny Wilson, Drew Mukuba go down

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

The newest Eagle made his debut Tuesday as Eagles training camp begins to wind down, with John Metchie debuting as a receiver for Jalen Hurts while Johnny Wilson and Drew Mukuba both left practice with injuries. As Nick Sirianni and Howie Roseman held out some of the key players from practice like A.J. Brown, DeVonta Smith, Jordan Mailata, Dallas Goedert and Lane Johnson, find out who stepped up. EJ Smith and Bo Wulf break it all down. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

And welcome to the PHAY Eagles podcast live from the Xfinity studio and presented by DUDAD Dental and Truman Financial Credit Union in addition to Xfinity, Bow Wolf, E.J. Smith here after the Eagles' penultimate practice of training camp, E.J. You know what? We go for so long, it's like, okay, maybe training camp would be nice for it to end. But when we have a day like today and yesterday, I'm happy to be out there for a while.

Yeah, you know, it's a bittersweet feeling for sure. I usually get really excited for the start of training camp. I have been on record before saying that training camp is actually my favorite time of the year. You get to see ball. Yeah, like, I don't know. Being able to watch football practice is very fun. But I find myself ready for the regular season at this point. Not that I'm complaining about training camp, but just excited both for the action and also really for the routine that comes with the new season.

But so many, so many games this year that are on a Thursday or a Monday or even a Saturday and a Friday. Heavy is the head that wears the crown. Isn't that what Jalen Hertz would tell us with a... Lamp is never full. The lamp is never full. So, yeah, I mean, listen, it's good to be covering a team that's got a lot of primetime games, even if it does mean that our sleep schedules will suffer. Well, and it is fun to...

I mean, right now our focus is so much on the bottom of the roster and the middle of the roster. And, you know, come... Now, we are a week away from the cuts to the 53. By next Wednesday, eight days from now, all of our focus... will be on, you know, the top 25 players on the roster. And we won't even be thinking about some of these players. Oh, we'll still be thinking about them. I mean, I will be.

Yeah. I don't know if the chat will be talking about them quite as much. All right. So we have, we have, it was an interesting practice today. And we will get to it in a second. John Mechie debuted for the Eagles. There were a couple injuries during the middle of practice. And then there were a long list of players who were left out of practice today.

Why don't you take us through who those were, E. If you have it in front of you. Yes, I do. So, AJ Brown still out with a hamstring injury. Let's, and Landon Dickerson, still out with the meniscus injury. Let's do the new injuries, though. Jordan Milata missed practice with a concussion. Tanner McKee.

There's a play yesterday where it felt like he got dinged up a little bit. I wonder if that was one. I don't know if I caught that one where. He was like bending, bending over. And it looked like Lane Johnson, like, came over to him. Went and checked on him. Yeah. Well, he's, and it seems like Jordan's been dealing with something for sure.

All summer. So. And he acknowledged that. Yeah. I think it was time for him to get a rest day, period. I didn't want it to happen at the expense of a concussion. Yeah, I almost wondered if it was just a rest day at first. The concussion was a part of the injury report.

Tanner McKee was out with a finger injury, presumably on his throwing hand, and Devante Smith was out with a groin injury. Dallas Goddard also limited with a groin injury, so he was not a part of a team. So realistically, like it's funny, you just said we're going to talk about the top 25 guys on the roster. Not a lot of them were out there on offense today. We saw a lot of, you know, I mean, the left side of the offensive line was Matt Pryor. Well, this is interesting. Yeah, the prior thing is definitely interesting.

But just in general, they were missing a lot of the key figures of the offense. So, you know, I think the listener should remember that when we talk about how they looked offensively today because they really were missing maybe four or five of, you know, I mean, it's tough to say the most important players, but some of the most important players on offense for sure. Yeah, I think you said something like, you know, well, I guess we learned that if if the offense is without AJ Brown and Devante Smith and Lane Johnson and Landon Dickerson and Jordan Milata, you know, they might not be in such good shape. Yeah. Probably fair. Yeah.

What did you make of Matt Pryor? So, you know, they have Kendall Lamb, who's been the second team left tackle all summer, essentially. And today, the first day where Milana is not practicing, it's not Kendall Lam. He's instead working as the second team right tackle. It's Matt Pryor with the ones that left tackle. Yeah, it definitely speaks to Matt Pryor, probably. being the first guy off the bench at the start of the season at multiple spots. I mean, maybe not left guard, but I don't know.

I even wonder if the left guard thing would have happened if they didn't have him at a different spots. So, yeah, I would definitely say the Eagles offensive line lack of depth or lack thereof. The fifth or the sixth, seventh, and eighth guy, it is a, it's less confidence inspiring than it has been in the years past. They don't have that Fred Johnson or, you know, you go down the list of the swing tackles that they usually have. They don't really have that one guy this year.

Matt Pryor, I think, kind of is going to be the stand-in, you know, again, first guy off the bench at a few different spots. I think it's between him and Kinnard. And I'm trying to find out what the full lineup was here. I think I have it here too. Yeah. So, so Kinnard was not the first time. Yeah.

So it was Lane, right? Correct. Yes. And then when Lane went out, that, yeah, I think you just probably pitch count. it was Kendall Lamb at the other tackle spot. So yeah, I agree with you that Kennard is probably the first guy up at maybe, I mean,

one of the guard spots. But I don't know. I don't know. Probably the right side. You feel better about Conard being the first guy up. But I mean, again, to your point, we used to know.

Yeah. Is the first guy up. Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah. It's just like the, the, the,

those three guys are probably as like, like, shaky. as they have been in the last three, four, five seasons. Yeah, so, you know, I hate to be alarmist here, but honestly, if you asked me going into training camp, I probably wouldn't have said that it was a major concern of mine. And I still wouldn't call it a major concern,

but if you, it at least is on the list of outcomes, like, okay, what could tank the Eagle season? Sure. That three or four man depth offensive line pairings, like those guys, that is like on the list now. is like if you are rolling out an offensive line that has Matt Pryor at left tackle and, you know, Brett Tooth or Darian Kennard

at left guard, obviously we think Land and Dickerson way back. But if you're looking at a group that is that depleted and using that many of those depth options, that your strength becomes one of your major weaknesses. And it also goes hand in hand with, you know, we expect some regression on defense. Yeah. Right?

We are all worried about cornerback to how reliable will the other safety be. Is the pass rush going to be deep enough? All of that stuff is sort of baked in. And maybe this will be a, you know, a top 10 defense or maybe in like the fifth best defense in football, and not the best defense in football. And what's going to make up for that is hopefully the offense being better than it was last season. But if the offensive line is not as good as it needs to be, then you don't make up for that.

And all of a sudden you're just sort of an average team. Right. Yeah. And we've heard Hallie Roseman talking before about the bad years that they've had. They've had bad offensive lines or they haven't had enough depth at those positions. And the trickiest part about it is like, you know, not to foreshadow too much what we're doing later in the show. But looking through other teams' rosters for depth offensive linemen is a really difficult exercise. It is hard to find even like it kind of helps me understand a little bit more how the Kenyon Green thing happens because it's like you don't find very many guys with draft pedigree with, you know, the traits to be starters or, you know, to develop into starters on other teams like depth charts.

You know, you don't find those guys seventh and eighth on the other team's depth charts because the Eagles value that position so much. It is kind of like their depth actually probably. That's a it helps explain why their depth is usually so good. But yeah, no, I think it is it's not high on my list of like potential catastrophic outcomes, but it's it's climbing that list, I would say. Okay, let's get to the two injuries from today's practice that happened in the middle of practice starting with Drew Makuba. And this happened before team drills. So we didn't, we don't know who was supposed to be with the ones today between him and Sydney Brown.

But what happened there? Yeah, so it was during a one-on-one rep against Nick Mewes. He kind of came up, I mean, you can call it, Gimpy, whatever you want to call it. He came up kind of grabbing at his left hamstring, did not seem comfortable. He tried to go through special teams drills. It kind of seemed like one of those deals where it's like, I am going to do everything I can to not go back on the injury report. Went through one special teams drill did not look right when he went through it. and then walked over to one of the Eagles trainers, Tom Hunkley.

I guess he's like the head of medical stuff. What a hunk. I should have looked up his title before. But yeah, he walked over to Tom Hunkley, one of the Eagles trainers, and said, you know, something's wrong with the hamstring. They went to the medical tent, and I didn't see him go inside, but Dave Zangero said that he went inside, and I trust Dave on that one. Yeah, he's got good eyes.

Yeah. We had a little eye off today. Yeah, I'm regretfully, I can regretfully inform our list. that Bo beat me in an eye off today. Yeah, baby. I thought my vision was perfect. You were really touting your vision. I mean, I've got 20-20 vision,

and you have 2015 vision as I learned today. No big deal. I mean, it was like, it was the thing you read, I think you guessed. I think you were, no, I read it. Context clues. I mean, once I saw it, I realized that I'd seen it before, but we're on the far side, and then, you know, they're doing one drill here on this field,

you know one offense first two defense and then on the other field it's going to be two offense versus one defense and we're like okay who's going to watch the far field who's got better eyes and you didn't even think it was a question you think I'm so washed that there's no way I could have better eyes than you that's not true I tested on the ads I was being a pushover millennia and I said oh no I want whatever you want to do and you said oh no I want whatever you want is fine I'll defer to you and I'm not going to defer I'm not going to let's have an eye off so yeah we did we had an eye off we tried to read some ads on the far side of the NovaCare complex.

The little text at the bottom. The tiny tagline. Premium meets artists and Jesus. No big deal. And I got cooked on the, the first one we tied, but then I got cooked on the second one. I'm sorry.

I think you use context clues. This is to be continued. I'm not ready to let this one go yet. Okay. And then Johnny Wilson gets hurt. What happened there? Yeah, that one was just like, it almost looked like a busted play or something

where he kind of got tangled up with some offensive linemen. and yeah, I was wondering if anybody was going to come up from that pile with an injury, and Johnny Wilson turned out to be the one. I don't know if it was an ankle or if it was a knee. I'm not really sure what it was, but he couldn't put much weight on his left leg. He did get off to the sideline, like very gingerly, like, again, like kind of just hopping on one leg. And then the cart came out for him when he left the metal tent, yeah, which is not a good, not a good sign.

I mean, because they're right next to the building, you know? Right, yeah, they didn't want them to make, what, take those toilets. 25, 30 steps to get inside. So, yeah, definitely, just an injury-filled day. You know, it's kind of a sloppy, sloppy way. I mean, it has been a relatively fortunate camp. Yeah, yeah, relatively nothing major to major contributors. I mean, Atlanta Dickerson, hopefully they are expecting them back for week one.

They don't have that, like, catastrophic one. So, yeah, no, it definitely seemed like they were piling up. And, you know, I think it is, like, noteworthy that I think some of this stuff is precautionary, like Dallas Goddard. groin injury, Devante groin injury. I wouldn't, I don't think that those are like Jeopardy for Week 1 types of injuries. And even Tanner McKee, I don't think that that's a long-term thing.

My understanding is it's not going to require surgery. So, you know, these are maybe like the types of injuries you expect toward the end of camp, but yeah, they all kind of came all at once today. And to me, the biggest repercussion of a Johnny Wilson injury, if this is significant, would be that maybe the future is bright for John Mechie. That's right.

the Futures Bright segment presented by Shady Ray's. We saw John Mechie in an Eagles uniform for the first time today. E.J. talked to him after practice. What did you learn? What did you think? Yeah, he's definitely got that Alabama vibe to him.

He's pretty, you know, he's succinct in his answers. Yeah, but thoughtful too. Yeah, no, he was definitely,

yeah, but I think that some of the Alabama guys are thoughtful. I don't think that they aren't trying to answer your question. They're just very brief. Like you asked him what he brought from Houston and he literally said, that was, you know, I didn't,

I mean, I think you were probably taken it back by, he asked, what did you bring from Houston? And he looked at you in a suitcase and just moved right on, moved right on from that. I found it interesting, you know, some of the things he had to say about the perspective that he has on life. You know, he obviously went through towards ACL, you know, had a bout with leukemia that he seemingly has made it, you know, back from. So, yeah, he definitely has had a lot of adversity early in his career. And I thought it was interesting to hear him talk about, you know, a lot of times. you hear players talk about like the controllable things like control what you can control it feels like a cliche but for a guy who's been through as much as him i actually did find that

very interesting i think so yeah they're i mean i can't imagine i can't imagine going through some of the stuff that he's gone through so um but in general you know him as a player he talked about how he wasn't surprised that he got traded from houston um which i think it's probably just reading the tea leaves reading the right on the wall with that but uh generally i thought you know i thought he looked decent today you know especially with all the injuries at receiver. He got a lot of run with the starters and with the second team offense. And usually you see those guys kind of get eased in.

He did not really have that luxury. Didn't really have a chance, yeah. Yeah, and I think he looked, I'd say he looked reasonably what, like, he didn't look out of place at the very least and look like somebody. And we should say that he was not a, he was still behind, you know, in this case,

Darius Cooper. Yeah, right. And I guess Cooper got a lot of run today. Yeah, and it started with Johnny Wilson. Like, he didn't just leapfrog those guys. Sure. But he does have some point. They were like, well, we don't have anybody.

Right. So get in there. So. I will say in talking to him as a, as an appreciator of accents, you know, he has, he is, he was born in Taiwan. His father's Nigerian. He lived in Ghana. He lived in Canada. It was very interesting to try to pull out what is what in there.

Yeah. A really interesting mix. Yeah, that is, I didn't, I hadn't considered his accent too much. I was, I was trying to keep up. There's a little bit, yeah, there's a little bit of everything in there. Yeah. Huh. I didn't pick up the accent.

Yeah, I'm going to have to listen to that. Listen for that next time. Do you think he is safely on the team? I mean, Johnny Wilson getting hurt is a big development. Especially if it's significant. Yeah, especially because he can be that dirty work guy. I mean, I don't think that the compensation to get him makes him a lock to be on the 53. I don't think like trading Harris and Brian and swapping.

a six for a fifth. Right. Is really warrant, like that's not enough to lock him in, but especially with Johnny Wilson being out, I just think that there is just a real world where like he is just their fourth best receivers come week one.

That might not be saying a whole lot. And I know that we are both fans of Darius Cooper and we think that he might be. Well, he's the third best. John Dotson, Eraser here. It's no shade against John Donson. He's just no Darius Cooper.

You know, John Dotson might be driving home from the facility. I just said, He's a good player. It's not his fault. They have another player who's better. Yeah, okay, fair. Yeah, I would say that there's just a chance that he is a more capable fourth receiver

on game day, especially in week one. Well, especially with no, if there is no Johnny Wilson. Right, that's what I'm saying. He can do the dirty work. He can do the dirty work. He can do some of the dirty work that Johnny Wilson does, but he has more conventional upside as a receiver within the framework of what the Eagles do offensively. Like Johnny Wilson, he can be this jumpball specialist that we've seen.

in the summer, but like, is that really that valuable in like an actual game situation? Are you really going to be just like we, you know, we complained about the Anaya Smith bubble screen with Jahan Dotson and Devante Smith blocking, like, can we really envision a world where it's third and eight and you're throwing it up to Johnny Wilson? You know, I think that there is a chance that John Metchie can do more of the conventional stuff better than Johnny Wilson while also being able to fulfill some of that dirty work. So I probably will have them on my 53 for that reason. but I don't know.

I still, you could tell me a lot of the different things could happen on a wide receiver and I'd believe you. Yeah, I think it's gonna be very interesting cut down day. But that'll do it for the Shady Race Futures Bright segment

for John Mechie. What were your other big takeaways from today's practice, EJ? You know, I mentioned it earlier. I think if the Eagles offense is without that many starters, we have to have a real conversation about what things are going to look like. There were a lot of dump-off passes

to Will Shipley and AJ Dillon today. I think that Will Shipley, like, has had a very solid summer. And, like, I think so. You know, I think that, you know, I don't want to just, like, completely poo-poo the idea that, like, he's been getting a lot of targets. He got a lot of targets today,

and it's a bad thing for the offense. But definitely wasn't, like, a dynamic day for the Eagles offense. Yeah. Well, I mean, no, they did a little bit of backed up. Yeah. And we should say just in the, as the cornerback rotation turns,

this was another Adori Jackson. There was a little bit of Jacorian Bennett sprinkled in, but I mean, I think Adori probably got something like 85% of the first team reps when they were in nickel now he didn't come off the field and base again and it was Cooper Dijian on the outside But Keeley Ringo seems to now now that it's been a couple days in a row he is definitely falling behind Yeah, I definitely think we're seeing Kili Ringo kind of fade from this competition I am still not buying the Sidori Jackson as the week one started. I mean he got beat by Iife a day a day in one-on-ones today. And, like, you know, again, maybe Ufaidae is driving home right now listening to this podcast.

So I apologize for pointing out the lowest moment of his practice. But this guy was tripping over the bags in individual drills. Who are you to doubt Ufa'A-Dadee? He goes out in the 101-1-1-1 drills. It just cooks O'Dory Jackson. So couldn't beat the bag, but he could beat O'Dory Jackson in the one-on-ones. And then Adori did give up that when they did that backed-up period, he did give up a pair of slants right in front of him.

One to Darius Cooper, one to Jahan Dotson that gave up the first down, lost the series for the defense. He's not, save the, a day you one-on-one, he is not getting beat deep in teams. Yeah, it's not catastrophic, yeah. And he does seem willing to be physical. But there is not a ton of upside there. Right.

And I think that that's, it's really what stands out is like, you have a few options that do have that upside, that upward mobility to give you good play by the midpoint of the season. and I'm just not buying it with him. I think Jacorian Bennett is probably the one at this point that I'm kind of keeping my eye out for. I still think MacMewyms could sneak in there. But yeah, I think Kili Ringo is kind of in the background at this point.

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trade for all sir you're writing trade all 31 team wow and i have one two three four five six left who are the teams you don't have chargers commanders bears and then i it was i just made my way to the nmc west so cardinals niners seahawks you're never going to make it i can buy you some time by telling you my my commute story well i want to pay attention i'm an active listener all right Well, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. It's not a huge thing, but I was excited. I am excited to report.

Today is the first day I made it to the office without directions. Okay. Without any help from anybody getting to the seventh floor, again, the seventh floor. I may open the gate, the door myself. This was a big step for me. Okay. No directions. So show seven.

Yeah, but like, come on. How many times do you drive a place before you stop putting directions on? I mean, if I drove there yesterday One? Oh, no. Oh, yeah. You got to flex on yourself. You got to prove to yourself that you can do it.

No, you need the directions to like really learn the route. No. This is my, so it's my seventh show. I'm glad you're counting. I haven't been counting that. Well, I know you, we had, it's, it's Tuesday. You started last Monday. All right, all right.

Oh, you're so good at that. I feel like today we can. can add. Unfortunately, cannot win in softball. Today was my first, we need to talk about that too. Today was my first day

without the directions. And honestly, I did I missed a turn. So I still didn't get it perfect. But no, honestly, I could go a whole month, go driving somewhere

without actually, because here's the thing. Like once you, if you don't, if you use the directions each time, you're not really learning how to drive there.

Correct. My opinion. It's the first day you don't use the directions that you truly learn. So this was my first day. I made a wrong term, but I got there.

Okay. Did you figure it after you made the wrong turn? Did you figure it out yourself or did you then have to plug it in? Oh, no, I figured it out. Okay. I was really close to the office by the time I made the wrong turn. Okay. Listen, I'm taking that as a win.

I'm happy for you. Yeah. No, I'm pretty pumped up about that. Okay. Were there days where you made it here and then you still couldn't get up to the seventh floor? No, I've ironed out my getting in and using the elevator. I figured that out midway through last week. Okay.

But today, the drive, like I said. You're also still meeting new employee, people you haven't met. Yeah, I just, I just pretend that every single person is the most important person that I could ever meet. Well, so now you're telling them they're not. Well, I mean, I just, I, well, I treat everybody that way. There can only be one. But yeah, no, I'm not like, who would you say is the sixth most important person in your life? In my life?

I shouldn't answer this. I'm just going to get myself in trouble. I mean, it could be someone who's flattered to be up that high or it could be somebody who's disappointed. They're that low. I mean, like, you're not, like, worlds away from it. All right. I spend a lot of time around you, but I wouldn't call you six. Like, maybe, like...

I would be disappointed in you if I was six. Well, I mean, the amount of time we spend together, there's definitely... Yeah, that's different, though. It's got some potential to be high, but... Yeah. I'd say probably the top ten is mostly family and, like, best friends. Yeah, that's what it should be. Yeah, you know.

never know. I mean, I don't see my best friends as much as I see you. Yeah, but this is not a volume game. But I guess you know, it's an important relationship. If you were like a miserable person, it would be pretty important in my life. Like you'd just be dragging me. I got bad news for you. What did, um, what did our dear friend, the extremely talented, um, producer, Cliffy two have to say about you holding his romantic. Oh, he didn't have an issue with that. He had an issue with the form in which I've thrown the oop as he calls it. Now, I told Cliff, I've been out this game for a long time.

So I'm not really up on like, did I need to do research before I tried to set this up. Like, you know, I didn't have a social media handle ready for him. Yeah, yeah. Once you bring it to him, he's got to be able to, you know, do his own research. Yeah, right. I want him to do the research. I'm not in the game, but doing him what he's. he should or shouldn't be interested in.

He wasn't feeling some kind of way about you holding that? No. To keep it to yourself for over a month. No, I think he enjoyed the whole thing. He messaged me about something else yesterday. Some of his friends are like, do we need to be aware of this E.J.

Cliff beef? And I'm like, this maybe is going too far. Like if your friends are checking in to make sure like, you know, EJ isn't getting under your skin. So, but no, it's all good fun.

We'll see. We'll see what happens with the, with the Cliffy two dates. There's a chance here. I think that there's potential here. All right. Cliff, we love you. We got an open chair over here whenever you're ready. Okay.

I've got another big takeaway for you. Okay, give me your takeaway. And then I'll tell you after that what I'm going to say was the big deal. Okay. I need to get this out of the way because I don't want you to shape the narrative here. Uh-oh. I think the quarterback three competition is over. Oh, I mean.

And I need to... It's been over. I need it to be on record. Oh, please. That the Dorian Thompson. There's no, there's no digging out of this for you. Attribution onto me acting like I was the, you know, the number one Doreen Thompson fan in the city.

I will not stand for it. Oh my gosh. This is outrageous. Listen, here is. You can't erase that. Here is what I said. From your take history. Here is what is happening.

Dorian Thompson Robinson needed to outplay Kyle McCord overwhelmingly for the duration of the summer to have a claim on that third quarterback spot. because of all the things we talked about. Kyle McCord on a rookie contract, theoretical upside in the fact that he is new to the league. And even if it didn't look good, you could talk yourself into him eventually developing into maybe not a I feel like the Tanner McKee thing is kind of, you know,

that is such a high range of outcome for any day three quarterback. But like even if you see a world where Kyle McCord could develop into a competent backup, you'd want to keep him around. I do still believe that if Dorian Thompson Robinson outplayed Kyle McCord throughout the summer, it would have made sense for him to be the third quarterback. That is not happening. This is Dorian Thompson Robinson.

You said that he was a week ago. Call McCord during that time. Come on. You said it wasn't even close. It was like your number one takeaway from practice a couple of days in a row. Like, duh, DTR is cooking. I mean, he had a few good practices. And he outplayed Kyle McCord overwhelmingly, which is, which was fitting.

the criteria to most eyes. Come on. You know that you know that's true. You know that he played better than him for about a week. He has regrets. I will tell you what I will here. Here's one thing that the only thing that I will say to defend you here. Fran, I know you're watching. You are on a side on this. So you own this with E.J. Both of you. Get in there. I mean, listen, and I'm going to sound like my predecessor here. If I'm on the side with Fran, then that means I'm on the right side. Not all the time. Not all the time. I saw Franz. Not when it comes to Nate Peterman. I saw Franz preseason notes for the first time. What a treat, huh? My goodness, that guy. Yeah. He sees the game. I've used this, this cliche before, but he sees the game in

like ultra HD 4K and we're all just watching in like 720P. Yeah, that's about right. He's a savant. Anyway, so really we should inform the listeners on why I'm putting the QB3 thing to bed. Um, Kyle McCourt, with Tanner McKee out, Kyle McCord got all of the second team snaps. It really wasn't a very third team heavy day. I don't know if it was because of the injuries or if, if, because they had the developmental period at the end of practice. And those guys are all going to play the whole game on Friday. Right.

I think it might also just be like they don't have as much of a third team because there are so many guys out. That's true. But it was a heavy day for the ones and the twos and Kyle McCord was, was with the two's for the first time this summer with Tanner McKee out. And honestly, I didn't think you look bad. I mean, he still has his moments. He was picked up a couple of times in the far fields when I was.

Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, I'll let the. Zach Bond. It went right through Zach Bond's hands into Cooper DeGine's hands. Yeah. And then Tristan McCollum had a pick when it was twos versus twos.

So he wasn't perfect protecting the ball. But I did, I thought actually, I do think he's looking better in terms of willing to make some second level throws. Yeah, I would say like operationally, he looks more comfortable. I agree with that. I still am skeptical about whether. not he can follow the Tandum key path, not just in terms of like, can he be that good, but can he be like the backup quarterback on a rookie contract? I'm not sure he'll get there. But I do think that he's shown enough progress. And really, Dorian Thompson Robinson has

regressed enough where I think that the competition is over. Okay. That does not erase it from your record. Oh, listen, I will, I will stand by that I said Dorian Thompson Robinson was performing better than Kyle McCord for a stretch during training camp. You said he should be a starting quarterback. I never said that. What did you make the Colts decision today? Oh, it's terrible. It's so bad.

So bad. Isn't it? Like Jimmy Kemsky was trying to talk me into like Daniel Jones having a breakout season. Well, Jimmy likes the idea of wouldn't it be great for us if the Giants had this happen again after sake of last year. It would be funny. For sure. For sure. And maybe.

And there's a good chance that. he has his best season. I think that's fair. But you know me to be a traits guy at quarterback. So you know I love Anthony Richardson. Well, here's the thing. I mean, no one had ever entered the league the same way as Anthony Richardson did with that little experience and those physical tools that had never been matched. This was very clearly someone who, if you are going to draft, is going to need a lot of development and the full thrust of the organization all pointed towards that and it is crazy how wishy-washy and feckless they have been in trying to develop him. It's crazy. I mean, it's insane. It's not even like this was a different regime. Like this is the same

regime that drafted him. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. It's like that is the type of guy that needs starts. He needs and he needs to really like to have to him if you're not willing to give him three years. Right. He needs that like Bryce Young track where it's like we're going to let him fail. And if we need to pull him back for a few games, we'll do that. But like this is his job. And yeah, he needed a runway. And like, I'm disappointed again as a guy who like, I don't want if I, you know, I wouldn't want my team to draft a quarterback that has a ceiling in the day he walks into the building. And Anthony Richardson has the traits that he wouldn't have that ceiling. The fact that they weren't going to stand by him definitely was disappointing for me. But I mean, the Daniel Jones thing will be interesting at the very least.

Like, I think that there is like maybe like a middle of the road quarterback there. And like, they have some talent on offense. So I don't know. I'm intrigued by that team. but I would have been more intrigued if Anthony Richardson was under center. I agree. Behind center.

I've been trying to stop saying under center. You know, most teams don't have a lot of under center. That's true. Eagles had an under center run today. Yeah, what'd you think? Yeah. I'm like always noting it in my, I always literally write down like under center, exclamation point.

And it's like never. Do you write under center or do you write UC? Oh, under center. Oh, wow. You write UC? Yeah. No, I write under center. I'm trying to find.

Who's got time to write 11 letters? I know not the most efficient, but I usually can figure out what I was trying to get back. That's probably better in the long run. I mean, I'm flipping through my notes and can barely. You have a better memory than I do with it. I like to think I have a better memory? No, you definitely do. Like, you know, I was also trying to put together some trades.

And like, I'm like, oh, man, I really didn't like go through this as much as I should have. And you're just, like, reeling it off. So. Well, I don't think that's memory. But anyway. All right. I'm going to tell you what is the big deal. The big deal presented by Cherry Hill Mitsubishi.

And this happened late in practice. The Eagles were doing situations. Siriani calls it out. It's ones versus ones. And here's the situation. The Eagles are down two points. The offense is down two points. There are 25 seconds left.

They are at the 50-yard line and they have no timeouts. Okay? So they got to get, you know, realistically, you want to get about 20 yards. You got to play the clock. You got to do it efficiently. And on the first play from scrimmage, Jalen Hertz throws a slant to, I believe, Grand Calcutera. So now they're at the like the 44.

You're not in field goal range. It's second and four. And they rushed to the line. And you were right next to me, E.J. and I'm saying, don't spike it, don't spike it, don't spike it, don't spike it, don't spike it, run a play. And instead they spike it. They waste a down. And then on third down, they throw an incomplete pass.

And guess what? Now it's fourth and four. And you need to go for it because you can't hit that field goal. You could have thrown the exact same pass quickly on second down and then lived to fight another day. What are we doing? The Eagles do this all the time. They waste these spikes. This is the preseason.

This is training camp. this is the time to get it right. Stop doing things wrong now. Well done. I turned to him after this happened and I said on the podcast, I'm just going to clear out for you. I'm just going to do an ISO. I'm going to let you have this.

Stop wasting the spike. My one gripe that you didn't get to is the opening play being like, it was like a curl route from a tight end for like five yards. Yeah. That is like that is also an issue to me because it's like if you're going to go middle field, you have to take a shot middle field. Get into, get the yards. Yeah, it has to be a worthwhile play in the middle of the field.

If you're not going to force it to the sideline, like, yeah, try to get something in the intermediate or deep part of the middle, middle of the field. The fact that it was like a five-yard dump off to Grant Calcutera, it's like, what are we doing here? Like that is that, because that also costs them a lot of time. So, um, I, I like heard of you like, it was like happening in slow motion. You're like, don't spike it. Don't spike it.

And they spiked it. Um, yeah, definitely. not the best moment. It was a Darius Cooper pass, pass intended for Darius Cooper last night. Now it looked like maybe that was, they were on the wrong miscommunication or... There was a few times today where it seemed like Jalen Hertz just was not on the same page

with Darius Cooper or honestly any of the cast of the guys that were out there. It's just, again, they were missing the main guys for sure. Okay. There you go. That's my big deal presented by Cherry Hill Mitsubishi. Stop spiking the ball when you don't need to. Cooler heads need to prevail here. Okay. Um, okay, any other takeaways from practice today that we should go through?

Hmm. I had Jalen Carter down for a few, like, times getting in the back field. I thought he had a pretty solid practice. No, no fireworks. Um, Jailix Hunt. There was a, there was a play with Jihad Campbell and Zach Bonn on the field together that pre-snap was interesting to you. Yes, yes. Yeah, I noticed that, so again, we're starting to see some of the Jihad Campbell and Zach Bonn experience.

I think Jeremiah Trader Jr. is still rotating in with those guys, but the one thing that I found interesting today is it was Jahad Campbell and Zach Bonn both on the field and it was Jahad Campbell that took that overhang linebacker spot where he dropped down and made it a five-man front and left Zach Bonn as the lone linebacker, you know, in the middle of the field. I found it interesting because usually it would be Zach Bonn filling that job and it is just illustrative of like the flexibility that Vic Fangio has with both of those guys because I think in an ideal world you wouldn't want Zach on dropping down to the front that often. He can do it, but one of his best attributes is his range in coverage.

If you can still achieve that with Jahad Campbell dropping down, I think Jihad Campbell is very well suited to dropping down as that, you know, pseudo-edge rusher, overhang player. Again, I just think it is interesting to see the wheel start turning for that pairing because of the versatility they have. I want to see a six-man front with those two guys both dropping down. I know that's getting a little weird here, but like in dime or something like that? Is that fun?

Well, I guess not dime. But, you know, yeah, it can't be nine. But I think that there are some flexibility they could have with those two. We're starting to see it in practice. I think it's going to be one of the fun parts of this season is to see what Vic does with those guys on defense. Yeah, I mean, it's just crazy how athletic their lineback in court got very quickly. I agree.

So a shovel pass today. We saw a couple. We saw maybe the worst shovel pass ever. And then it followed up pretty quickly by the best, well, not the best. but a successful. Did I miss the worst one? Yeah, you must have. Yeah, I've got 81.

Or I forgot about it, a terrible memory. They threw a shovel pass to Saquan Barkley, 26 shovel pass blown up by Jeremiah Trotter, Jr. Nice. The one to Grant was more of like a misdirection shovel pass. I thought it was a better design. So a couple of plays of Jalix Hunt looking good in coverage. Hmm.

He also got a sack. Field one. Against Matt Pryor today during team. Have you noticed that there are like more creative exchanges between Jalen and Seekwon this year? Like they have they have the shovel pass which made me think of it but there's been like more like pitches but not for outside runs like it's like a misdirection pitch or it's a toss that's gonna get vertical right away. It's there's just more variation in like the the exchange. Yeah, I don't know if it'll last. Maybe they're trying things.

Just practicing. Yeah, like there was one, it was a couple weeks ago where Seacquan was lined up to Jalen's right. And instead of it being like your conventional like inside zone exchange, Sequin like motions and goes across and it's just a pitch. It's a shovel pass. Probably similar to what they did today. So yeah, no, I don't know. Again, maybe we will, maybe we won't see that during the season,

but there definitely has been more variation on some of these run place to Sequin. One other thing that I wanted to ask about, which we talked about on the sideline is what one thing we have seen like over the past couple weeks is when they go to nickel from their five-man front, Ojimo is the one who comes off the field and Jordan Davis stays on the field to be next to Jalen Carter. Do you think that that is what they will actually do or do you think that is just in service of getting Jordan Davis reps? I feel like it's, I think it's what they'll actually do. I think, you know. Really?

Yeah. And I don't necessarily agree with it. But I don't, it's not like Morrow OjoMo. doesn't also need reps. Like, I mean, are you going to try and convince me that he needs like a pitch count this latent camp? Maybe, but it's been a consistent thing. So I think they view Davis and Carter as like the two

and then a Jomo as the changeup guy. Again, do I agree with it? Especially in passing situations, absolutely not. Yeah. You know, a Jomo has had a really good camp. He's looked good, not just, you know, as a pass rusher, but against the run as well. But again, you know, and maybe it maybe part of it is that like

the flexibility it affords them. because you know you have Jordan Davis who theoretically can play different spots if you wanted to drop Jehad Campbell or Zach Bond down to the edge you can shift the front and play him as a nose like maybe that's part of it having that versatility out there but I don't know

I think that Moro Jomo is just a better, it's crazy to say but I'm a player right. I need to see it week one to believe it. I still think that Vic Van Joe when it comes to a real game on third and long is going to want Ojimo out there instead.

Third and long absolutely. Yeah, like and I get that well I don't know. I guess it depends on like do you view the nickel snaps that they have in camp as like third down situational stuff. I kind of view it as like nickel is their base. You know, is kind of what they're going to major in. So I think there is going to be a lot of times where Jordan Davis is the second. I think if I had to guess I would say that even if they both stay healthy or assuming they both stay healthy. I think Ojojoa plays more snaps than Jordan Davis. Yeah, I would I would agree with. that just by the pure function of like, I think more Ojo-Moh's in better shape to play more staffs. Okay. All right. Time for a little break. We'll come back. Any other leftovers from practice?

And then we're going to talk some theoretical trades for the Eagles one week away from roster cut down. How in the weeds can we get? You will find out. Okay. Everybody, listen to me. Money? Kind of important, isn't it?

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I will say no for two reasons. One, because there's not a lot that I can remember from my notebook that I feel was worthy of the show. And secondly, because I am excited to get through as many of these trades as we can get through. Okay. We said we were going to go through trades yesterday. So let's do it.

I think maybe we'll go through all of my eight. AFC trades today. And then I'll save the NFC for tomorrow. Okay. I like that. But let's start with you. What was the, what's,

which one are you most excited about? I'm going to go. Well, which, I mean, some of mine are like real low level. Let's go like the broad ones. Like let's go with the ones that like,

you know, your headline grabbers. Yeah, exactly. Like the old news man habits die hard. Let's go with some of the ones that, you know, people are talking about.

So I have Trey Hendrickson. All right. I got a, I got a trade trade. On the pseudo trade block, I think they're willing. The Bengals are clearly on the offer's here. I, you, and listen, you might crush me for some of these compensations.

I'm trying to figure out a good middle ground here. So, do you think the Bengals would take a second round pick and Sidney Brown for Tray Hendrickson? E.J. I have, we did not talk about this. I have Trey Hendrickson and a four for. Sydney Brown in a second. So that's the only difference is I have the Bengals having to throw in a fourth. So I thought that this would be like a little rich for the Eagles.

So I think the four does a good job of balancing it. But I don't think the Bengals would do that. I think that you have the, the Brown brothers. Brown brothers. It's a great story. Yeah, it's great. I think that stylistically he might be a little bit of a better fit with the Bengals. And yeah, the reports you hear like they want a young player and an early draft.

I think they want a first round pick in a young player. second round pick and Sidney Brown pretty close to that valuation and I don't know how you feel about the Trey Hendrickson experience but like he had 17 and have sacks last year and him and nolan smith is your two primary edge rushers that's a nightmare like that is not maybe not like a nightmare those guys are getting beat up yeah exactly that is just like a physicality effort energy nightmare for that is the one where you like you're tracking uh wow the the the tackles who play the eagle have given up this many sacks the next week. Yeah, it's just like, yeah.

No, it's perfect. I think that they would be an interesting pairing. Now the cash, you know, we're not really factoring in. Like, I don't know if the Eagles could fit that contract in right now. Yeah. But just from a... Yeah, and then like you have to, the long-term implications of like, do you want to pay a 30 plus?

Well, I think that's why it's on the second because you're probably not going to pay him. You're telling him he's going to go into the market. Yeah. And honestly, for Ray Hendrickson, you probably are okay with that. Obviously, you won a new deal. but like a proof of season with the Eagles, not a terrible situation to be in. Right.

And then from the Eagles perspective, theoretically, you get the comp pick two years down the line. Yeah. I don't know. I love, that's one of my, like,

listening to his podcast over years. Like, the comp pick, like, mention is like a very strong P.H.O.I. Eagle show, like, bingo card item.

Thank you very much. In a good way. Like, it's a good thing to remember. It's a good point. Do you want me to give you a more? more headliners. No,

give me a goofy one. Let's let's, let's, name a team in the AFC. Oh, I know which one I'm going to name because I saw it already. Give me the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Listen, Eagles need some offensive line help. We've been taught, we've been talking about it. They make a trade to get Fred Johnson back in the building. E.J. And what they give up is Matt Pryor and Eli Ricks.

Oh, I didn't see Pryor was in there too. Okay. All right. I don't think the Jaguars do this. Like, he's not, he's not supposed to start for them. Yeah, but like they signed him because he's a valuable swing tackle. Like he's exactly what they expected him to be. You know, now they get Eli Ricks too.

I like the trade. The Eagles would do it. I think the Eagles would absolutely do it. I mean, it's basically upgrading your swing tackle position for a guy who probably won't make the roster. Is he getting paid that much? I think he's getting paid more than the Eagles wanted to pay him. Yeah, but this Moa Copa. What is it?

Five million? Let's see. He is not. Oh, his cap number is 1.2. Oh, okay. Yeah, there you go. Prior to do this trade. Prior or Ricks?

Prior and Ricks. I would do both, yeah. I think that that's fair. What if it was like, we don't want your waiver fodder. We just want a seven or a six. Yeah, I think they would do that too? Five. What about a five?

No. I think a six is the right number. I don't think the Jags would do it, but I like the idea. Okay. But they need the player, too. Okay, give me another one. Let's say with the Jags. I think a fun long shot to Han Dotsony trade would be for Trayvon Walker.

I don't think it would happen. Yeah. But I think if it's exactly the type of trade that the Eagles would want to make if he were available, draft pedigree, obviously. He's like a player that has been solid. But like there's always been that like, you know, there's always been that idea that he could be better than he has been. You know, he had double digit sacks each of the last two seasons, but not quite

one of the best head rushers in the NFL. I think, again, it's at Jahan Dotson mold where it's like draft a guy who is coming up on the end of their rookie contract, playing for that second deal and see if he can take that next step in a different situation. Plus, you know, how he's going to love the, like all Georgia guys together. Like, you know, he's going to love that. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's another SEC guy. It's a good point.

I don't know what they would want. I don't know if they would trade him at all. I mean, it's probably, it's probably a one, right? You can't give up a one. So you think it's a two? I think it's probably just tough to make that deal. Yeah, I just don't think the trade would happen. But if he were available, I think the Eagles would make a lot of sense for him.

Okay. Give me another team. I'm trying to think of like a goofy, a goofy AFC team that would be fun for you here. Give me the Colts. Call up Shane Steichen. Okay, the Colts now for this one, before I get to the Colts, I'll do the Raiders. Okay. Because the Raiders are trading for Tanner McKee.

Oh, interesting. And they are sending Michael Mayer, the tight end. This isn't moving me so far. And a conditional second that can turn into a first. I don't like that deal. If McKee starts, plays 75% of the snaps, and the Raiders make the playoffs, it turns into a first round pick.

Otherwise, it's a second round pick. So the Eagles get, you know, they get a little tight end. This is something they can hang on, but they get a second, and they're just cashing in on Tanner McKee. I don't think that's going to happen. Yeah, I feel like the Eagles say no.

I feel like Michael Mayer is like your second tight end over Grant Calcutterra. It's an upgrade, maybe, theoretical, but... And I don't know. I would be worried about the conditions of that pick just a little bit. Okay. And I wouldn't want to trade Tanner McKee before the season. Now, if you told me, okay, is that why you prefaced it? So now with the Colts, the Eagles are trading a third round pick for Anthony Richardson and on fourth.

Okay. Yeah, I knew you were going to talk to me into it. somehow because like I'm like okay so who is the Eagles backup quarterback Anthony Richardson is the backup quarterback no no I'm not going that's fair Eagles that's fair Eagles this is like the art collection you know give me a little bit of Anthony Richardson you can't sit here and be like oh EJ you love DTR and you're so wrong about him and then talk me into Anthony Richardson as like the reclamation project you don't want a reclamation project as your second string quarterback probably not like he would be a fun third

quarterback, but that's not going to happen. So it's fun, though. I like the wackiness of it all. Moving and shaking. All right. I'm going to give you another. I've got two more, like, headliner guys, and then I also have a couple of goofy ones that I like.

Okay. Should I go with the headliners here? Let's hear the headliner. Okay. What about Arnold Ebiketti from the Falcons? That's your headliner? He kind of straddles that. Okay.

I mean, it's an interesting player. Okay. I feel like, I don't know. I didn't think of, I didn't think it was like as exciting as the other two. Okay. And what's the compensation here? I could not tell you. Oh, you're just, you're just throwing names out.

He's a one-year rental. It's probably a mid-round pick, like a fourth or a fifth. The other one's Denzel Ward. I'll be honest. It just doesn't do much for me. Like, I don't think the Browns want to trade him. Okay. And I think the Eagles kind of already made their trade at corner.

I think it's probably, right? It's like, we talked about it on yesterday's show where it's like, you don't want to make a trade that pushes Quinyan Mitchell from being the undisputed first quarterback. Like you want him to be the star. So that be the star. But like you don't know what I mean? You want him to be the number one guy.

He's earned that. So it's like you kind of have a ceiling here that's Quinnian Mitchell and you know above, right? And then like you also don't want to make a trade for another Jacorian Bennett. So like it's a very narrow window that you could fit a player in. And then you have to ask yourself, do you want to trade for a cornerback that you have to pay when you have to have those guys coming up. Right. So again, for that reason, the Denzel Ward stuff, I mean, like, if it was a mid-round pick

and you're just talking yourself into like, this is a championship window and we want to shore up that position, maybe, but it didn't really move me. All right, I'll give you my four AFC cornerback trades. Okay. Since we're talking corners. Buffalo. This is the low level we're talking about. Dane Jackson, an experienced, like, fourth corner, who indications are is right on that

roster bubble, Eagles trade Kendall Lamb for Dan Jackson. It's not doing much for me. I mean, the bills... This is basically like if you are going to release Adory Jackson. Yeah. And you're going to just... You want to have another veteran there. I've got one for you here, but I want to see if you have it too.

Miami. Okay. Their second round pick from a couple years ago, right on the roster bubble. Cam Smith, the cornerback, has had a disappointing career. Eagles love picking up those former second round picks. They're sending a six-round pick to the Dolphins for Cam Smith. That one intrigues me. I like that one.

It makes a lot of sense. Feels eaglesy. Here's the big one. Tennessee Titans. Legerius Sneed. Hmm. How did he was he? I mean, I'm showing my ignorance here.

Did he not have a great year later? I think he was fine. Okay. But, you know, that was a different regime. I can hear. That sign. Legerius, I can hear like how he rose and being like, this is a guy that played at a really high level for a Super Bowl team.

One year of him is fantastic. Legerius need for Keeleringo in a fourth round pick. I would do that if I were the Eagles. I think he is exactly in that window that we are describing. He is basically a Darius sleigh. Yes. Yeah. And then my other one is also a Keely Ringo trade.

They're sending him to Denver, and they are turning the full secondary, the pigment that they want. Riley Moss from the Denver Broncos, straight up for Keeloringo. And they've got the white. secondary in post-merger. It's a secondary. The Phillies can be proud of. Yeah, exactly.

No, I'm not moved by that one. That's too much. That's too far. All right. I've got one for you that's secondary related. This is a little bit of a goofy one. What about Beanie Bishop from the Steelers? A roster bubble player.

You can play him in. I don't even know who that is. He was like the nickel that had like Two pick sixes last season for the Steelers. Okay. You're not, you don't even know who he is. No, Beanie Bishop. I feel like if you can get like a tough slot guy.

Okay. You fill that gap and then maybe it's Cooper to Gene on the outside. Probably that. Probably it fixes your cornerback room in that way. I don't love it, but I do like, I like the Beanie Bishop last year. I thought he was, I thought he was an interesting player. You didn't know who the guy is. I'm still not convinced you're making, you're not making this person up.

Oh, come on. He like had a prime time. and pick six. It was like he became a story. He had four interceptions last year. No, it doesn't exist. It says right here. It doesn't exist.

That's what you get for trusting AI. That's right. All right. I have more trades to tell you about and we will get to all of them in overtime. Now we got we got Ethan running the show today. Julie's training him up. And she said, listen, the Bovertime graphic you got to get it.

It's not in this. folder, it's in this folder of here, and it worked out. We got it. It's great. Okay. Wait, I have to, we have to start overtime with the softball stuff. I literally did not ask about earlier because I wanted to save it for the pods. We lost.

We lost last night. We just, we didn't hit enough. Defensive game, we were up, we were up three nothing. They scored two in the bottom of the sixth and then they scored two again in the bottom of the seventh. We just are, our, our, our, top four, we need to score runs and we didn't hit last night. The top of our order, we only got up twice, but we scored one run with those top four. It's not good enough.

Accountability starts with me. It did not hit well enough last night. So, you know, everybody, everybody on the team feels it. Everybody thinks they're the one who was responsible for the loss. You know, we appreciate that. But as far as I'm concerned, I got to do a better job. Sounds like you're dragging yourself through the mud, as Nick Siriani would say. I think everybody is. And I really don't like, ugh. This guy was out at second base. And he was out.

He was out. And he's being all huffy about it. Like, oh, she tagged me up here, but you were looking up here and not where my foot was. Yeah, you don't run like this. You are out. Have a little bit of honor. That's all I'm saying. You know, stop taking so many walks.

We're here to swing the bath. I'm glad you got that off your chest. You think he's a listener? I don't know. Well, then we just, maybe we just lost the listener. I hope so. And so then it's the last, it's the end of the game, you know, there's one out, first and third.

Their cleanup hitter is up, the same guy. and we're like we gotta walk him of course we gotta walk him we need to set up a possibility for a double play at second base sure he's got isn't sound and he's all huffy about getting walked

all huffy with his batting gloves he's got to take his batting glove off the only guy in the league who wears a batting glove well he's a cleanup hitter he's doing something give me a break he was out he was out of second base it's on me

I got to hit better got to do better drag myself through the mud job by me You got to flush it. Okay. That's what Jalen Hertz would tell you. Flesh it.

Yeah, got to flush it. Yeah, but that's like nine months now. We've got to wait for it to get back on the field. Not good enough. Here's my Steelers trade for you. Okay. Eagles are getting Darnel, Washington. Oh, I like Darnel Washington.

Of course you do. He's like way down their depth chart. Eagles need to tie down on a rookie contract. I like, this one. They're sending Jeremiah Trotter Jr. in a sixth round pick. Oh, I'm in. I'm so in. Darnow Washington would give them like a different play personality.

It would like give them like a style that they could lean on. Like you could see that like four minute offense with Darnow Washington as that sixth offensive lineman just like crushing guys. Oh, I'm in on that one. I like that one a lot. Okay. Like that? I think that's your best one.

Then you're not going to like this other tight end trade with the New York Jets. Jeremy Ruckert. Eagles are trading for Jeremy Ruckert and they're sending Tristan McCollum to the Jets. It doesn't do as much for me. How about? He loves being a jet, doesn't he?

Wasn't that his whole thing? That he was really excited to be a part of the Jets organization. Who? Jeremy Rucker. Yeah. Yeah, but he's fallen out of favor. They drafted Mason Taylor. They changed.

The Baltimore Ravens, David OJabo on the roster bubble. Look at my screen. David O'Jabo. There you go. Eagles are. sending AJ Dillon in a sixth round pick. Okay, I figured like a day three pick would be enough to get him. Yeah, he's on the roster.

That would be like a roster bubble guy for a roster bubble guy. Yeah. I like that. He's draft pedigree. Not to keep saying this, but I liked him coming out of college. He thought he was an interesting player. He has not done very much in his career. But yeah, take a flyer on a guy like that.

I'm in. I got a safety trade for you. No. The Eagles are sending Sidney Brown to the New England Patriots. for Marcus Epps and a sixth round pick. Oh, bring Marcus Epps back. Bring Marcus Epps back. I'm not sure.

I feel like Sidney Brown's kind of like a Mike Vrable kind of guy. Oh yeah. Mike Vrable would love Sydney. And you get a little bit of a draft compensation for it. If you've decided that Vicks is not a Sydney Brown guy. I just feel like Marcus Epps played his best season for the Eagles already. For sure. Like, but I guess you could talk me into it as like he is more sure,

like a more surefire backup if you're going to Andrew McCuba. Cleveland Browns. We just got an edge for a defensive tackle. Eagles are getting Joe Triang Choyanka for Byron Young. Yeah, that's just you're like, you just like that guy. I do. You just wanted to make that move. They do need edge.

I think they could trade for an edge guy. I think that makes sense. But did Byron? They should trade as he's Ojalari since he had like his two best practices of the summer where they were there. That's a very good point. This one's going to, this one is, we should clip this. Okay, because this is what's really going to get the people to come to the show.

the Los Angeles Chargers who have lost what's his face for the year they're trading Kendall Lamb the Eagles are trading Kendall Lamb to the Chargers Kendall Lamb in a sixth

for a fifth clip it viral here we come Kendall lamb in a sixth for a fifth this is really what this exercise is about

it's like if they make any of these trades we're going to seem like geniuses yeah I got 31 shots here to maybe have sort of come close to calling a trade. It was funny. Like I walked in and you're just like like feverishly writing on a notepad and I'm like, what are you doing? I'm coming up with 32 trades for 32 T's.

Two left in the AFC. Houston Texans. This one's going to knock your socks off. Another Texans trade. Cornerback Tremon Smith, who the Eagles once brought in for a pre-draft visit a couple years ago. They're sending Cameron Williams to the Texans. Cameron Williams

No, that one That's a veto on everybody's part Why would anybody want to trade for Cameron Williams? Well, I don't think Tremont Smith's gonna make their team Yeah, I mean this is That would be like a fun like Oh, Howie Rosman and Nick Casario They love doing deals together.

Why not? I'm out on the Cameron Williams All right, last one. Kansas City Chiefs Eagles are sending Kenyon Green and a fifth round pick to the Chiefs for Kingsley Suamata I like him too. Former second round pick who lost his job

is no longer starting for them. Get him in a stout you. It's a little rich for that guy, I think. I'm not going to try the last name I haven't packed. You think so? Yeah, I just... Former second round pick? Like Kenyon Green is another like,

he's not making the roster guy. So, sure, but... And I don't know, Eagles Chief's trade. You think it would happen? Sure, those guys love each other. Maybe. I do think, like, some of these while I am, like, laughing at them,

like the because and this is a quote is something that was maybe brought up by my predecessor here on Twitter predecessor huh I mean I know you're going to get mad at me if I say his name so no but not predecessor oh that of course you of course he doesn't care about that um is it predecessor that's how I would say it doesn't make it right or wrong is predecessors we need to ask the chat is predecessor wrong I don't think it's wrong I just definitely it definitely hits my ear in a way that was not what I was not what I was was expecting. Well, my predecessor.

Predescessor. Yeah. Mention on social media. I can't take the point without giving him credit because like he made the point. Where was this truth social? It was not true social. That the egos are lasting the waiver wire order. So like because of that, if there is a your cut player for my cut player,

I might make more sense to make that type of trade. That's true. To circumvent the waiver wire order because, you know, usually I would say like, well, why would anyone trade for like somebody like Cameron? and they're just going to cut him. The Eagles might trade for somebody else's version of Cameron Williams because of the fact that if they hit with. Albert O. Trade. Yeah, exactly.

Just trying to make sure that they get a guy that they maybe have an eye on. Flynn Patterson says both pronunciations are technically correct. Thank you, Flynn. I appreciate the support in this trying time. Okay. Man, has there been any reaction on social media yet to the Tremont Smith trade? we got that out there yet you got bad news for you

oh hold on my phone's blowing up it's casario he said great idea on the phone now just texted howie they're going to swap those picks again they should just keep doing that for the bit just doing that all right

that was fun yeah I enjoyed that NFC tomorrow aFC NFC NFC tomorrow. Yeah.

Yeah. Listen, there may or may not be a former Bowulf Camp Crush on here just saying. Up to you to figure out who that is.

Okay, anything else? I don't think so. Hopefully tomorrow I can get here without any wrong turns without the directions. I believe in you.

Do you have any like last practice of camp routines or things like that? If I can get Reitas tomorrow, I'd be happy to get Reitas. They've been quick with the Reitas. They have a quick. hook. And listen, I understand. People got places to be. They got, maybe they're going home.

I know that's right. But I would like to get a read- I usually try to save my, I do one readers. And it's the last practice. That's usually what I do. I tell you, though, I've been having some good Johns this summer. I don't need readers. That's fair. No offense to read us. No offense to read us. I mean. Please, if you were sponsor, I'm going to love it. Yeah. But, uh, you know, it's fair. Johns has been hitting me, hitting me really well this summer. Kids love it. I've never, I was, I was, I, this is the first time I ever did the Jolati. Yeah, Jolati's strong. I enjoy it's good. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think it was, I didn't think it was going to mix so well. It's fantastic.

No, like, yeah, the, the mixing is what you need. Like, I don't know if people like try not to mix it, but right. Right. Like, yeah, it's really good. It's, it's definitely strong. Uh, but honestly, if we don't get it tomorrow, I might just like go get an actual ice cream because nice. I mean, actual ice cream, especially if you're going to. Soft or hard. Get your mind out of the gunner. I like a hard ice cream served soft. The listeners probably don't know this.

What does that mean? Okay. I'll tell you, this is a good overtime story for you. My wife and I met at an ice cream shop where we both worked. We were both 14 or 15. We started working there. Fale as old as time. Yeah, right.

I mean, that is every 15-year-old's dream. It's like meeting your wife at an ice cream shop. Yeah. I mean, it probably would make like a fun, like, book or movie, like, at some point. I mean, it had to be dramatized, but because it wasn't that exciting. I mean, how dare you, Julia? Well, it's like not like there was like no twist or terms. It was just like we liked each other and we got married.

Anyway. At 15? 15. Not quite at 15. I did get married young. I was 24. Engaged at 21. Wow.

Yeah. When you know, you know. How'd you propose? I propose in Seattle. Is this just like you're seeing if you can get me to explain it? Like, just like divulge something about my personal life?

No, I'm curious. I propose in Seattle at Seward Park on the water. It was nice. I had a Seattle Times photographer hiding in the beach. Nice. Yeah. I see those pictures literally every day. Walk past them every day.

So we worked at an ice cream shop Which was hard ice cream It was custard But it's served fresh out of the machine And that is the best way you can have ice cream Because it's like You get like the richness of a hard ice cream But the downside is usually like a hard ice cream

It's sitting there Yeah, it's just like rock solid If you get it fresh out the machine It's the best you can do Interesting Do you guys know about this? I've never heard of such a thing Hard ice cream served soft

Yeah I never heard that That's well it's like burned it in my brain because everybody goes like, is it soft serve? And you're like, no, it's hard ice cream. Serve us off. Okay. Couple super chats. Josh Tolentino.

Oh, shout out to John. Belated, congrats to EJ. Continue crushing it, my friend. Josh, too kind. Miss Josh. What a good guy. And congrats to Josh. Yeah, congrats to Josh.

I was about to say, I wish the Eagles and Ravens played. Yeah. Yeah, no preseason game this year. That's too bad. I like a trip to M&T Bank Stadium. Oh, I have an M&T Bank Stadium story for you. The podcast is going off the rails. Okay.

On the way back from the conference. Manders game last year, I believe. Yeah, last year, every year, like the food at the stadium, what is it, Northeast Stadium now, or Northwest Stadium, whatever it's called, whatever it's called. The Josh Harris, you know, Hell Dome. The food is so bad there that usually I pack a lunch. Yeah, it's awful.

Yeah, and then on the way home, I will try to figure out a good place to go to get dinner. Sure. There's not a lot of options. Yeah. So last year, I'm like, I don't care how far out of the way it takes me. I'm going to go somewhere good. And I was in the mood for Shake Shack. So I put in Shake Shack.

And I put it in like, yeah, you already know where it's going. Okay. So I put it in Google Maps. I'm driving. I'm like, oh, there's a Shakeshack like 40 minutes up the road. It's perfect. I drive to the Shakeshack only to learn that the Shakeshack is in M&T Bank Stadium. And they weren't even, the Ravens weren't even playing.

So it wasn't even like, oh, you could buy a standing room only ticket. I wouldn't have done that. But you know, you would have considered that? I mean, if it was like 12 bucks or something, I would have been like, whatever, I'm already here. And fortunately for me, there was a shake shack Like 20 minutes further down the road And at that point you're like pot committed

It's like I'm going to shake shack But no, I feel like it was Google Maps I feel like they need to do a better job of specifying Like yes, it is a Sunday in the fall But the shake shack is in a stadium And you probably shouldn't go there My closest one to that is There's the McDonald's on Columbus Boulevard

And we were like, I think we were doing like Target shopping or something and the kids were very hungry so I'm like okay I'm gonna for like the first time ever I'm gonna use the McDonald's app because that McDonald's takes forever I'm like okay I'm gonna use the McDonald's app put it in get there they're like we don't have anything for this no because there's also a McDonald's in the Walmart at that same plaza and so I that's where the food how far away were they like the two all the two I mean they are I could throw a football from one to the other no flex speak for you

Nerf ball. Yeah. Look at this guy. So. Yeah. We need better descriptions for where these places are. We just need either to not use technology at all or... Get smarter.

Yeah. Not have the bad technology so ubiquitous. Other super chat from CDP. Can Daniel Jones turn into training camp week one DTR? No. Nobody could ever reach such heights. No. DTR to the Colts for a one

I would do that train I know you would All right that'll do it for this episode of the PHAY Eagles podcast We're back tomorrow Last practice of camp And then the preseason finale

On Friday We've got the roster cut down A week from today All that good stuff Thank you to Ethan for making it happen today Cliff we love you And that's all we got We'll see you tomorrow

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