PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Flew World Order: Will Reed Blankenship, Jaelan Phillips & Dallas Goedert return as Eagles?

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

Time for us to rank the likelihood of return for all the Eagles whose future is in question, from pending FAs like Reed Blankenship, Jaelan Phillips, Nakobe Dean and Dallas Goedert to possible retirements like Lane Johnson and Landon Dickerson to trade candidates like A.J. Brown and Tanner McKee. Join in on the action for one of the tentpole shows of the offseason. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

And welcome to the PHOY Eagles podcast on a Thursday afternoon, live from the Xfinity Studio and presented by Bet365 and Ashley. This is the PHLY Eagles show. A big one coming your way. And for the first time in what feels like forever, the three of us are back together in the studio. Nice to see you guys. How have you been?

I've been great. It feels like I've been here in the last 24 hours, but who's to say? No, it's good to be back. Good to have the gang back together again. E.J., how are you? I'm doing great. It feels good to be employed, you know?

Just thankful that, you know, my key worked getting in here today. Amen. Actually, mine is not, but that's because I need to get my brevo updated. But that's a story for another day. Very exciting show today. Flew world order. Difficult. I feel like every year, Fran, now this is only your second year.

And we will say, defending champion. So heavy is the head that wears the crown. as the greatest of all time someone who won four in a row I will tell you it's a little it's not it's the second one's harder than the first that's what they say I feel like every year I do this

it feels as if it's it's harder than the year before and maybe that's just a recency bias but this year was interesting as I went through it I felt like I had an easy 27 usually that's how you do it right you've got your top you've got your bottom

and you guys you squeeze the middle. I had, I had like a top tier. Yeah. But then like eight through 26 could have been anybody. No question. This was, it was hard. Honestly, like, I wouldn't even go as an eight. Like, I wouldn't say it was like four to five to 25. Yeah. I was like, man, this could be any more. And you could convince me. So it was tough to feel super, super confident about a lot of these. E.J. How did it go in your first foray? Well, yeah, this is my first time doing this. You know, I'm off to a bad start with the games too, and I, you know, I am competitive, so it's bothering me.

Like, I don't want to be the guy who loses games on the show. But you're not as competitive as Fran. That is true. Fran, it kind of, like, Fran has a different side that comes out. I think it's just, I don't know if it's a different side for me. Then you're not as competitive as me. Well, I don't know about that, but, you know, we don't, we're not going to compete about who's more competitive here.

That's what I'm trying to get you. Yes, obviously, it turns like you're not that competitive. But I am very worried about, like, the first time that I'm going to have somebody, like, ranked like sixth, and you guys are going to be like, I've got them 24th. Because I think that is a real possibility. I think that's possible. Yeah.

And it's very interesting because we are also, there is some extra uncertainty this year as the offensive staff turns over. Yep. How will that affect your rankings? And the Eagles have some really interesting free agent decisions to make on guys like Reblankenship and Dallas Goddard and a Kobe D. And so I'm looking forward to getting to it. The other aspect of it too is that there are a couple of positions where there are like three guys

that are free agents. And so when I look at something like that, it's like, are they going to go complete resale here? Like probably not like flip the whole room over or yeah, hey like maybe they don't bring the starter back but maybe it makes sense

to bring the number three guy back or the advice for it. It's very, very interesting. And then there's, you know, what Britain Covey was a year ago where it's like, oh,

he could come back midseason and win the game for somebody. So we'll see. All right. Now if you want to play along, I'm going to read the list of players who we are going to rank today. And if you want, you can pause and do it

and then pick things up. So there are, These are the pending free agents. Reed Blankenship, Dallas Goddard, Jalen Phillips, Fred Johnson, Jahan Dotson, Adori Jackson, Grant-Cocatera, Nicobie Deen, Brett Tooth, Braden, Man, Kylin, Marcus Eps, Josh Ushay, Matt Pryoran, Brandon Graham, Aziz Ojolari, A.J. Dillon, Ogbo, Okarankwo, Sam Howell, and Ben Van Zumeren. Then you have the guys who could potentially retire, who we've added to the list. That's Lane Johnson and Landon Dickerson. We have two guys here who seem like likely cap casualties who could be cut, but could they come back then after that. That's Michael Carter the second and Britton Covey.

And then we have three trade possibilities, A.J. Brown, J. Brown, Jalen Hertz and Tanner McKee. Now, for the trade possibilities, just to say it, they only count as back if they are on the week one roster. So in other words, if you think they're going to trade A.J. Brown, but he's in camp and then they trade him before week one. He doesn't count if he makes it to week one and they trade him. He does count that's sort of like the Zach Ertz rule. And then the technicality from last year with Brandon Graham, the retirement guys, they count if they're on,

they now count if they are on the roster at any point in the entire season. And so generally speaking, this game gets decided by who do they add to the practice squad in week 12 that we didn't expect. So keep that in mind, DJ. But otherwise, I think we're ready to go. I think so. All right. Let's kick things off.

We go alphabetical on this bad boy. We start with read blanketship. One of the more interesting decisions the Eagles have to make. I will tell you, I did, the way I did this, I ranked the guys last night before I went to bed, forgot about it, came into the office this morning, opened, you know, hid that column, ranked them again. Oh, really?

To see, you know, how it matched up. Nice. And I was shocked. I had the exact same top 10 in order, which really, surprised me. Then I had 27 and then it was still a little bit of a jumble. And so this is one where I moved a little bit. I have read blankenship at 11. Oh, okay. How do you got, where do you guys have read blankenship? Uh, go ahead, Fran. Let's, we'll go. I have them at four. Four. Yeah, this is going to be a big swing, I think. Wow. I'll tell you, uh, when I was, uh, when I was,

uh, it was, it came to me in a dream last night. It was like a lucid dream. I was able to sort of see into Howard Roseman's office and the conversation he was having with people in the Eagles front office about potential things

they could do this off season footage got leaked from that meeting right? You were in my dream as well and just thinking about the number it's likely to cost

to bring a reed blanketship back over 10 plus million dollars I think I don't know if they're going to be interested in that now there are factors at play obviously

I think one thing that is a theme in mind is that I have defensive player like if there was a tie between an offensive but a defensive guy I'm putting the defensive guy lower ranked because it's the same staff

right? So we know Vic likes When you say lower you mean closer to one more likely to come back yeah you know I think I think we can say like the fact that he does the exciting mics with Cooper DeGine

probably is like a tiebreaker he's not going to leave a ton of money on the table but I think he would like to be back You would like that would make things easier. I just, this feels, safety feels like a place where they don't need to bring him back. They can get by. It's part of the reason they drafted McCuba. Now, I don't know that McCuba had a good enough year for them to not bring,

read Blanketship back, but I don't know that they need to pay him. So I have him at six. Okay. And for the reason, I think the scenario in which he leaves is his market takes off in free agency and the Eagles get priced out. I think the scenario for him to come back is something we've talked about before, which is whether you know, you feel like you have to sign a veteran player to play next to Andrew McCuba.

And if you're really going to save much from the drop off from Reed to somebody else on the market, I know the value that Reed has in that secondary from talking to players. He kind of is the one that directs a lot of that traffic, gets those guys the calls. And I think that, you know, we've heard so much about Vic Fangio, the chest pieces on the board, the queens on the chair, or the queens on the board are the safe. or at the safety position for that defense. So I think he has a lot of value for the Eagles. Again, there's a world where his market takes off

and it prices him out. But for that reason, I am more optimistic about him coming back than you. Okay. Fran? The way I looked at it, you know, having him for... I know. Wow.

The way I looked at it was, of all the pieces that, you know, that we're talking about, I just don't know if there's like a suitable, like, in-house, like, replacement. I agree with that. All the arguments that will make for, like, N'Cobi. and then we made,

yeah, we heard, saw in that footage from the meeting yesterday that got leaked with NKobi, I think that you say the same things about

read, everything that EJ just talked about in terms of like how he makes others around him better and how he's like the traffic cop back there. I think losing that presence

on the back end, it would be a tough pill to swallow with already losing Nikobe and I think there's a harder case to be made to keep Nikobi as opposed to read. So I think he'll be back.

Okay. All right. That'll be an interesting swing. player there, read Blankenship. Let's go next to another big one here, and that is A.J. Brown. I'm going to start with you here, friend, because I feel

like, I feel like there's a chance you are going to have A.J. Brown. Very high. Oh, yeah. Very well. Yeah. Highly scored. Yes. A big number. 15. 15.

Wow. I went higher or went lower than I thought. Yeah. I have them at seven. I have them at 12. Oh, wow. I thought I was a seat. See, I initially had him a lot even like higher or lower, like less likely. Yeah. And I bumped them back.

I think we have to all agree on higher or lower here. Yeah, I know. You're right. Lower, let's do the actual number of the ranking. Okay. So, yeah. Yeah. Higher is less likely.

So I'm actually a little bit lower than you guys. No, I'm the lowest. You have him as the most likely to return. And that's only because he's already, he's on the roster right now. There's a status quo bias. Sure. they would like to be able to keep him they're going to try to be able to keep him

so I have him at seven you're at seven AJ where were you again I'm at 12 yeah man it's an Olympic this is gonna be a crazy this is very into I feel like this will be the most disparate scores we've had yeah I agree in recent years but yeah I mean listen

I think it is more likely than not that he's not here anymore yeah but right now he's on the roster yep and it's a big and they have to get what he's worth in order to make it happen. Yeah, I think you and I have the same argument. We just settled in a slightly different spots there.

Okay. All right. Next up is the first tight end of three that we have. And that is Grant Calcutera with no Jason Michael and a new offensive scheme. E.J, it is your turn to lead us off. Where do you have Grant Calcutara? I have him 13. 13.

Okay. Fran? I have him at 13 I have him at 22 Wow you you're you're confident he's not gonna be back I don't think He's gonna be back and I also think he is good enough to get on once he signs with another team Yeah stay on another roster which is a big part of where you rank these guys in the middle

I think Fran you alluded to this at the top of the show when you were talking about why these decisions are tough depending on what happens with Dallas Goddard, maybe the Eagles do say, are we really going to turn the entire room over? Grant Calcutera, maybe in a role much different than what he played last year, still has value as a second or third tight end in the room. So for that reason, yes, if his market takes off, again, a lot of these guys, I'm going to say this to the whole time. If they get priced out in free agency, they'll be gone.

But I do think that there's a path back for Grant Calcutera as a depth tight end. Yeah, I mean, my assumption is that wherever he plays next year, it's not going to be talking were like hammered a nail like yeah they're just like trying to hammer a crayon into a hole like it just made no sense the way that he was being used yeah i would think like a new staff would look at it and look at and look at sean mann and you know the other people that have been brought in to lead this group they've done a good job utilizing tight ends and finding ways to get the past catchers in space and utilize the blockers like calcutter can be a useful player just not the way that he was used last year i think um i grant gottaire's

Super nice guy. I'm just like a tiny percentage here that is he's very well liked in the organization. He's a nice guy. And it's like as much as he gets as much as he struggled in the run game, he is regarded as like a very hard worker and like a greedy presence on the field. I think my my hang up with Grant Caceterra, the player, is it is arguably more to do with just the way that the Eagles offense uses guys other than the top three receivers. They just don't get thrown the ball. But I don't know that Grant is as dynamic a receiver as he needs to be to make up for the fact that he is not a good blocker. Or a special team's contributor.

That's right. Right. And so I think that has been a little bit disappointing the further he's gotten into his career that he hasn't provided that dynamic. But I think you're right. If they let Goddard go, they're probably not going to just enter the draft with no tight ends on the roster. So it's possible he could be back for. I don't know, like what do you think? Like a million and a half?

Yeah, I think he'd be somewhere in that. And that's the thing. I can get into some of the stuff. Yeah. I do think that he's probably in that bucket of one five, one eight, like very, very doable. Right. Okay. All right.

Let's take our first break through three guys so far on the other side. Michael Carter the second, Britain Covey, Nacobo Dean, Landon Dickerson. We're ranking, baby. Stay with us. What if you could have reliable and intelligent Wi-Fi? And what if you could keep it at the same price for five whole years? That's the Xfinity five-year price guarantee. It's Wi-Fi that makes everything in your home work together.

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We are back on the P.H.O.I. Eagles podcast. Continuing on in Flu World Order, next up, Michael Carter the second, who will certainly be what? I think we both struggle with him. This is a tough one. Did not play much, but I think you saw in that last week 18 game, he was the only guy who they could actually rely on back there. And I don't think it's impossible to think in a world in which they let Reblanker ship go.

Yeah. Maybe you bring, you could bring back him and Marcus Epps. Yeah. They compete. You try to draft somebody in the middle rounds. Is that good enough? I'll go first this time. I have Michael Carter the second at number 12.

Okay. That makes me feel better. I got him at 14. Okay. I haven't 17. Okay. Man, that was when I was, I looked at him. I think this one is entirely on the market.

If somebody out there really wants to add him, the Eagles will be fine letting him go. If he doesn't have a super high market, I think they would be happy to have him back for something. Yeah, you know, like, and I think that Vic likes him a little. I was just about to say it felt like Vic saw something in him as a versatile, secondary, you know, piece that you could move to different spots. And because of that, I was like, I think they will want to have him back if they can afford to bring him back. I was going to say he's on a relatively big number.

He's on the, we talked about like the 10 million number for blanket ship. That's where Carter is right now. I think it had to be, he'd have to be casualty. Yeah, yeah, there's no way they're keeping him at the number. But here's the thing. The coordinator that he had the most success or the coach. the head most success with Robert Sala is now the head coach for a team that traded away multiple corners last off last last fall so you can absolutely have a job there there could be a better

market for Michael Carter that's why I went I went 17 honestly I had him even like a little bit less likely earlier in earlier iterations of the list and I went back and did some tweaking after thinking about it yeah that was a tough he also he also he also climbed likelihood on my list too like I talked myself more into him as as I did though he also has if you want to allow for the Dijin to safety possibility. Yeah. Yeah. He helps make that happen potentially.

So where did you have him? I had him at 14. 14. So I am I am the most like I'm 12. I'm the most likely on him. You are the least likely on him. Can we clip Bo saying I am 12 for when he's bothering me on the show? I can play that.

Sure. Next up. Britt and Covey. The person who swung this exercise last year. This swung this what? This exercise last year. I don't know if someone else hurt. something the way that I hear

just the way you said it I didn't hear it exercise sex exercise yeah exercise that's correct now who's 12 no I don't need to derail the show go ahead let's hear it what was the movie was it it's not the bad news bears when the like grown man

wants to play little league baseball with the other kids and he goes I am 12 do you remember this somebody out there I'll remember this it was like a baseball movie doesn't sound familiar to you when the other guy wants to play He's like a ringer for like the opposing team. And he's like, he's like in his 20s or 30s.

Bench warmers, yes. Do you guys didn't see that movie? Okay. All right. Sorry. Britt and this last year I had him very low. And the reason being I thought he was a good enough, I knew he was going to sign elsewhere. Right.

Good enough for turning to stick where he was. Yep. Didn't turn out to be the case. Came back. E.J. is, no, Franon is your turn to go first. Same receivers coach? same special teams coordinator I've got him at six

I've got him at eight okay so I've got him at five this is the first time you're the high man it just it feels like for the reasons you said there's enough continuity he is a good enough returner that the Eagles will want to have him back and I also think he's not quite a good enough

returner that he's going to have a robust market elsewhere maybe and maybe it is like it was last year where he goes somewhere else at the beginning a training camp and ends up back with the team. But with as few sure fire bets as we have, I felt okay about Britain Covey being low on my list here. Yeah. Yeah.

And the reason that he's on this list is because his cap number, he is under contract. His cap number is like 1.2 or something like that. The Eagles are not going to keep him at that number. Yeah. But they also don't have to make that decision if they want to just carry him on the roster until he actually probably should have been a week one guy. In which case, he should have been lower now that I talk about it. but if they release him before camp, they don't, you know,

they don't lose any cap space. So anyway, all right. Next up, a very interesting one. And I feel, this is one where I feel like E.J. is going to be the high man,

given the way that we've talked about it before. Nkoby Dean. E.J., where do you have Nacobie Dean? Have him at 11? You guys have him way lower. I have him, I have him.

Way higher. More likely than I did when I first did the exercise. But not anywhere near 11. But I have him at 18. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm at 21.

Yeah. That's about where I had him the first time. You're aware? 11? I'm at 11. 11. Okay. Him and AJ Brown, I did these in, you'll be unsurprised to learn.

I did these in tiers. Like, that's the way to do it. Yeah. Okay. But I love doing tier exercises for no reason, honestly. And this tier is Nicoby Dean and AJ Brown. I feel like those two players, both less than 50% that they'll be back. I think that their percentages for me are probably similar.

Yeah, I just I don't see how It would have to be There's really no market for him And I don't think that that would be the case Yeah, I don't think so either Yeah The reality of it is

Most good players don't hit free agency You know, and For the reasons we've talked about numerous times Like I just don't I don't imagine how they can bring him back Especially before he hits the market To your point Like I think he would have to hit the market Not have a market

and then come back. I think there's going to be things. And to your point, most good players don't hit free agency. And so when there are players who you can understand why they're hitting free agency, they're going to have a market, right? He's hitting, like Milton Williams,

he's hitting for agency because the Eagles are just loaded at this position. And they can tell the story. Like, yep, I think, yeah, I think it is pretty unlikely he's going to be back. I actually wish I'd already had him lower. Yeah. All right, let's take out a quick look at where we stand so far. Lindsay has been just grinding through this as we've been going.

Oh, look at this. Oh, she's got, this is a great idea. This is a great idea. This is my ranking here. You've got Lennon Dickerson at the top. Well, you can see it. You're watching. AJ Brown, Britton Covey at 7 and 8.

E.J. there, a little clump at 1114 and 5 and 6. And Fran, a little bit more spread out. Read so far the most likely for all of us. That may change as we move on now to one of the two potential retirement. and that is Landon Dickerson I'll go first I'm interested to see where this one goes I have Landon Dickerson at three

I think he's going to be back but that's just projection I got him at two oh man I have him at nine really yeah I'm surprised by that yeah I think there's I think there's a legitimate chance I think there's

I think there's smoke there and obviously not enough to I don't it's not like I have him in the teens of the 20s but I don't think it's non-zero that's very interesting That's interesting to me. Like that, that raises my eyebrows. Yeah, I mean, this is, there's not so much to talk about here other than it's just entirely up to him. Yeah, I mean, with.

He would be surrendering a lot of money. Yeah. If he retires this season instead of next off season. Yeah. But the smoke there is, it really reframes like the press conference that we had with him at the end of the season. Yeah, right. I mean, he was despondent might be too strong award, but I think it was very close to desponding. I mean, he was, and what really stood out to me is I've had conversations with Landon about coming back from injuries.

And he is typically spoken with so much confidence about coming back from injuries and how, you know, some people can handle it and others can't. So for him to have been that, you know, that lacking that confidence at the end of the season that he would return to the same player that he was before. That wasn't just a guy who was worn down by a season. It was somebody who has overcome a lot of injuries before. and for the first time maybe is uncertain about how it was going to look for moving forward. So I mean, I wouldn't rule it out. I just, it's still just, it would,

the way I feel about Landon is it would still surprise me if he retired. It would still be a shocking thing. So therefore I had him high up here. I think that's fair. Yeah. All right. Next up, A.J. Dillon.

Somehow still in the roster. He's got to be your 27, right? He is not my 27. He's not mine either. I mean, listen, I don't think they're going to re-sign him, but I could see a world in which he's on the practice squad in week 12. If they need somebody, I believe it is your turn to go first, Fran. I have him at 23.

Okay. I'm of a 25. 26. Okay. Wow, I can't believe on the high man. Big A.J. Dillon guy. Yeah, big A.J. Dillon guy. I can't believe I'm not in the low minute.

Yeah. I was certain. 27. Yeah. All right. E.J. over to you. Jahan Dotson.

This was an interesting one. This was an interesting one. Jahan Donson. Obviously, the Eagles trade a third round pick for him. Whether they trade A.J. Brown, does that affect their willingness to potentially bring Jahan Dotson back?

E.J., where do you have Jahn Dotson? John Dotson is at the top of my final tier, which is need a fresh start elsewhere. Okay. I have them 23rd. 23rd. Fran? I had him at 20.

Really? Yeah. Were you out? Friends team run it back. This was one of the first rankings I did. Jahan Dotson is my dead last number 27. Wow. I agree with the sentiment there.

I think, first of all, he's a former first round pick. He's going to have a market, some kind of market. I think there will be a market. I think he wants to go elsewhere. He wants to go somewhere where he can have a better chance of getting the ball, talking to him on locker room, cleanout day. He was a good,

soldier, but he admitted that it was, it's frustrating to play in an offense where he's on the field a lot and just running around and not getting the ball. I would be, I would be shocked if Johan Dotson's back. And he's good enough to go somewhere and stay on a roster. The way I looked at it, you mentioned the AJ Brown of it all. If their plan is trade AJ for draft picks and we're going to bring in a rookie. Yeah. I think the idea of having a vet that has a relationship with Jalen, while the rookie gets up to speed. I think that makes some sense. I know, but I mean, I know.

I don't feel like it's like a highlight relationship with Jalen. Like, well, they had that training camp. They had that training camp. Yeah. They worked together a year and a half. And yeah.

Yeah. Okay. They had that summer at training camp. Yep. All right. Next up, another interesting one. We ping pong back to the safety position.

Marcus Epps, who joined the team midseason. Played fine down the stretch. this one either. You were worried about this one. I am. Marcus Epps. I, my turn to go first, I have Marcus Epps. I have a number 10. Okay. 10. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Where do you have them? I, with guys like this in this exercise, I just put them like basically smack in the middle. He's 14. I feel terrible about my ranking now. Like 26? I have him at 21. 21. The reason I had him there is because I feel like he'll have a chance to start somewhere.

He was cut by the Patriots. Yeah, because of a scheme fit thing. He was cut. It was per his request, according to reports. So I'm not saying like, you know, I think Marcus steps to some great safety, but I do think that there's a chance that he'll have a clearer path to starting somewhere.

I thought that it was enough of a, there was enough of a percentage chance that he would be enticed to leave on top of the fact that he goes might not want to bring him back, that I wasn't as confident about him. He also could be the Reed Blanketship Replacement Plan. Yes. Yeah.

I have one spot ahead of Reed. Right. That's why I went down the middle because I think both things are definitely on the table. I think both aspects. And this is pure storytelling projection, but he's been a few places now. Yeah. Yeah. I think if the offers are relatively equal, he might be willing to go somewhere he knows that he's a fit.

I'm just going to stand on that. I think he could sign elsewhere. And if I'm right, I'll feel great. because I feel like there's enough of a chance. All right, let's close out this segment with another one of the big ones, and that is Dallas Godder. Does this go the way of last season, where we expect a divorce? But the Eagles, especially if they trade A.J. Brown, aren't really willing to just go completely naked at the position

and need to have someone that J.J. that Jalen Hertz will throw the ball to, or does this go the way of Josh Schwett last season where you forced me to take a pay cut? I'm not coming back. I'm not, you know, I'm going somewhere else now. Frann, it is your turn. I haven't a 24. 24. Yeah, I just, this feels like the Josh sweat from last year. Yeah. Now, four though. We did talk yesterday, or I'm sorry, we did see the footage of that meeting yesterday, uh, where they talked about like the, how his dead money balloons, but, you know, by letting this contract expire with the void years. But it just to me, feels like the sweat situation from a year ago. This is probably a big swing on my end of it in terms of like that could make or break me.

But that's kind of how I do. Go ahead, E.J. This could be decisive then. Tell me where you have them. I haven't been 13. Okay. I'm low man. I got him at eight.

Eight. Wow. Interesting. You feel really good about it. No, I think after my number seven, all of these are worse than a 50% chance in my mind. Okay. It's tricky with Dallas. So like you mentioned, if there is a price in which they will want him back. Well, if you sign him to an extension, you can save about $9 million in cap space this year, just from avoiding the dead cap hit.

Yeah. I think the scenario in which Dallas got it is back is one where his market is suppressed by it being a good free agency crop of tight ends. And there's a, I will defer to Fran on this. There is a, yeah, it's a deep draft for tight end. Check out the latest piece on all p.gloi.com. Fran going through the combine numbers, a record high number of tight ends and fans of the combine. But it's all like tight end two, tight end three times. Day three on.

Yeah, we'll get into that. Right. So if Dallas Goddard's market is suppressed, he obviously was highly productive this season, but he has the injury history and there will be other options available to teams who are willing to spend that type of money on tight ends, if his market is suppressed, is there a point where the Eagles valued being able to avoid the dead cap hit and bringing him back for another season, is Dallas Goddard going to sign on for that? Is Dallas Goddard going to be receptive to that after already going through this a year ago? I think the reason I had him high is because of that

possibility that his market's a little bit lower and the fact that we probably, I mean, where did you guys have him last year? You probably had him low last year as well. Like this time last year we didn't think Dallas Goddard was going to be back either, especially if the Eagles are going to move on from AJ Brown. I could see the argument for keeping Dallas Goddard in house and trying to trying to avoid having to rebuild another like the entire receiving core with with him as a big a big loss there. I think last year though it was like

the idea of trading him and potentially cutting him. It was like the idea of trade whereas now it's an expiring contract. So it's like he is going to be out the door unless they willingly try to get it and he wants to come back. It's tough. What do you think his market will be? Like what would you expect him to get annually? Uh,

I think like 14, 15. Does that sound about right? Um, I don't know if he's going to be that much. I think he's probably in that realm. I'm looking at like last year's group. I mean, Evan Ingram got 11.5.

He's at 10 now. Didn't have a great year. Got hurt again. Yeah. He'll probably be in that range. I don't think the Eagles is at 16. Yeah. Yeah,

I was what I would say the Hockeson deal is a good news for him. I remember saying that. Let me ask you this. Mark Andrews is a 13-1. He has a lot of the same issues. Let me ask you this. They cost the exact same amount of money. Would you rather sign Reed Blankenship or Jalus Godder?

Is AJ Brown still on the team? No. It's a good question. I'd rather... I'd rather have got her, but I don't. I just don't feel as good about it. Yeah, obviously.

All right, very interesting. We continue. Time for a quick brick. On the other side, Brandon Graham, Kylin Grantson, Sam Howell, Jalen Hertz. Stay tuned to find out.

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See Wawa.com for details. Back on the P.HLY Eagles podcast, continuing on with Flu World Order ranking 27 Eagles on the roster fence in order of how likely we think they are to return. We move now to Brennan Graham who returned from retirement mid-season. Very efficient pass rusher.

E.J., it is your turn to go first. Can we just... You just do this one. Just do this one. Yeah. I have Brandon Graham at number four. I got them at seven. I don't feel great about it. I feel even worse.

Where do you have him? I'm a 10. Okay. If Hallie Roseman wants him, Brandon Graham wants to play one more year. Yeah. So it is in the ball.

He's made that clear on the PG on the block show with, I don't know. His great co-host. I don't know why Howie wouldn't just bring him back. I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. Now I wish I had him high.

I know. I'm looking at some of the guys I had on. I had. I mean, I've got Reed and Covey below him. Mm-hmm. probably not so I did five tears I had like I feel really good this guy yeah yeah yeah I feel pretty you know and I have him in that one but I have him toward the bottom of that second bucket yeah I love how I was like you know guys I did tears and one of my tears is

the Kobe Dean and AJ Brad it's like the worst tier I had you like be like named the tears like a new for a fresh start I have the I have the so Brandon Graham is in my tier three could see them leaving but feel a return is more than 50 50 50 okay next up tight end, Kylan Granson. This is a tough one. Got himself a little bit of playing time this year.

I think this is a tough one because he is the kind of player who you expect to just be on a roster bubble somewhere could find his way back. But we don't know what they want at the position. Totally new offensive staff. E.J., you go with Kyle and Granson. 19.

Fran? 16. I haven't met 14. Okay. For no other reason then if they let, if Goddard. They let Goddard go. Calcutterra signs elsewhere.

They might just have Colin Grants on the roster, you know. I don't have much else to tell you. I mean, he was better on special teams this year than I expected him to be. So, yeah, maybe Michael Clay stumps for him. Okay, there you go. There's one player that we're going to get to. And I feel like I'm going to be, like, so high on. But I feel like he's so like to come back.

Now I want to guess who it is. It's going to be funny that you're there. Yeah, I think so. We'll say that. All right. Next up, Sam Howell. Eagles traded for Sam Howell before their week one

cut down they needed an emergency backup quarterback after Kyle McCord did look good enough in the preseason he is now a free agent will he be back Fran I go to you 22

EJ 25 I have my 20 yeah big Sam Howell I am huge I like a Sam Halwell I like a Sam Halel too um or Jackson Dart?

I feel like if they, if they do trade Tanner McKee, maybe they resign Sam Howell and then try to add somebody else in the draft. Yeah. I'm not saying he'll get the opportunity to, but I do think Sam Howell would like to think he could get a backup job

that has a clearer path to being a starter. Sure. Yeah, absolutely. I'm not saying that like they're going to, it's going to be readily available to him, but I do think, like just from talking to him, it felt like he viewed this year as like, take your medicine, find a better situation next year.

I think he absolutely is a, top 65, top 64 quarterback in football. So I think that, reason to believe that he would think that. Yeah. Now, is there anything to Minnesota was not the right scheme fit for him? Right. Similar stylistically to what we expect Sean Mannion to do. Offensive line coach was there.

They didn't like him that much. Yeah. And maybe this is not the right system for him. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. All right, Jalen Hertz, the Philadelphia Eagles quarterback.

Will the Eagles trade him? I have him at number one. Number one. I got him to 20. Now I'm getting one. We all believe it, Joe Hertz. We'll be back and continue to be the Eagles quarterback. I saw some very dumb people commenting on a random YouTube video who didn't understand the premise of it, but either here nor there.

Adori Jackson. This was a tough one. This is an interesting one. Now, a Dory Jackson, 30 years old, I think the Eagles probably got what they wanted out of him last year. Will they roll the dice again? will they try to find this year's version of Adori Jackson? I'm going to go to Fran. Am I allowed to my list? I have not touched my list since we started the show.

Am I allowed to change it before? No. Okay. All right. Just asking. Most of all, the reason, the reason most of all is because I do not trust you to figure out the math. That is the number one reason. That is like 80% of the reason why.

I'll take that one on the chin. That's a lot of moving books. Not a spreadsheet guy like Fran Go ahead, Fran. I haven't been number seven. Seven. Yeah. It was higher than I would have.

I was shocked by that. Yeah, it was higher than I thought coming in. Wow. All right. Well, how much? I wanted to move him lower. I had him at 18. I haven't been 15.

Yeah. Just looking at my list now. I'm like, why don't I have him just a little bit lower? Yeah, I think, well, explain why you have him quite so high. I think he was fine. Yeah, there's no. He, I think that he, really settled in.

I think that when you look at a lot of people have the Eagles selecting a corner high in the draft. I just, I don't think that's going to be the case. Let's take a second on this. Excuse me. Referee here. You have, E.J. has two people listed as seven. No, I said wait, seven.

That's my fault. I have, I missed. Oh, who can't do math now? I hope that's not the only time. I did that. I was so scared. I would have called it. I was going to say, I saw you did the consensus mock. Yeah. Most people have the Eagles taking a corner.

Everyone has the Eagles taking a corner. Get out of here. No, it doesn't mean. There's no chance in the world they're going to use the first round pick on a corner. We're talking. And this is an exercise. Why? Like seeing like all the offensive talent that we feel there's a good chance that ends up.

You're going to take a running back. Oh, yeah. That's, yeah, I believe that. They're not drafting a corner in the first round. Yeah. So with that in mind, if it's going to be a. you know, third or fourth round corner that's not a lock to start.

Yeah. Yeah, I think there's room for Adori to come back. I don't, because I don't think they're going to go and sign a corner for 12 million a year. I agree. So, I think your best case scenario is that Adory Jackson goes into training camp projected as your third outside corner. Like you have somebody that you hope takes the job, a new version of Keely Ringo going into last summer.

You have somebody like that that you're hoping takes that, takes the reins on the job, but you can fall back on the Dori Jackson. Who's that, outside of it being the rookie that we're talking about. Right. I mean, yeah, like. And Keeley Ringo are back.

Maybe a Mac McWilliams. I don't know. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like I don't know that there's, I don't see them going out and signing someone to completely take that job. Sure. Yeah.

I think that's fair. To me, Adory Jackson is like, um, that outside corner is like a reliever. Mm-hmm. You, you sign the guy on the scrap heap,

hope that you get an okay here. You don't then sign him again. like you got you got the little excess value that you wanted you got to try to find this year's adory jackson it means he's going to be 30 31 I think you try to find somebody else okay which may be easier seven than done but I still have him at 15 I don't think it's impossible yeah I'm the high man here yeah big swing okay Fred Johnson I'm interested to see where we fall here and I'm gonna go to you on this one EJ you talk to Fred Johnson on

on Lacrim Cleanout day he said to you he wants to be a starter if Lane retires he'd love to be back obviously all of this changes now without Jeff Stoutland. No question. Yeah. I don't feel good about where I have them. I was staring at Adory Jackson and Fred Johnson on my list. And I'm like, why do I have Fred Johnson at 17?

Yeah, but 17. I haven't met 21. Yeah. Wow, we're all on the same page. Okay. I haven't been 19. Okay. And I think if Stout was still the coach.

Right. I would have him at like 13. Yeah. Or even lower, potentially. I don't know. The way that last offseason went for Fred and talking to him at the end of season. I think he is going to, like if Lane is back, I think even, I mean, I think it would have to be like a like a freezing cold market for him. Yeah. I think he wants to try and find a path to starting.

I agree with you. And, and I think, yeah, Stout not being here. I mean, I'm interested to see where you guys have Brett Tooth in all this and like that was tough. Yeah. Difference that you would have with and without stout for him. Yeah. But yeah. And Fred Johnson, good enough as we've talked about to not have to come back. I mean, which was not the past year because they traded for him. But he's not a guy who's going to get cut. So, okay. Next up, we did Friend Johnson. Let's do Lane Johnson.

I've got him at two. I've got him at three. I've got him at four. Okay. I think that is probably representative of how we all feel about it, too. Yeah, I think that's certainly possible he retires, but I'm guessing that he comes on the other side and says, I want to do one more year. Yeah, I think that's the right framing.

I'm at like 60, 40, and the thing I keep saying is I don't think Lane knows yet. I think Lane is probably 60, 40, 70, 30 right now. So I know that, like, people want, like, the definitive answer because, you know, this is now dragging on. I think you're just going to have to be patient and let them make the decision. All right. One more break. On the other side, we close things out. Braden Mann, Tanner McKee, Agboe, Agincoe, Aziz Ojalari, Jalori, Jailari, Jail.

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cap casualties from 1 to 27, and how likely we think they are to come back. Let's take a little recap here. Lindsay's been grinding. There's my rankings there. I've got an opening at 5, 6, 9. 16, 17, 19, 23, 24, and 26. EJ. Oh, EJ's top heavy.

He's got an opening at three and nine. About the first time I would call that. 15, 16, 20, 22, 22, 24. Bottom, seven. He's got some openings at the top, and he's got nothing down low. Bottom heavy. He's got all three spots at the bottom open. Let's find out who gets those.

We start now with Braden Mann, the Eagles punter, arguably one of the best players on the team this season. season, friend, where'd you have him? I had a two. Okay. They made the change in Longsnapper last year that kind of caught us off guard in this exercise. So maybe, but I just, I thought he was, he was nails this here.

Yeah, I got the, I put him at two. Item of three. Same reasons. I'm at five. The puntilletics, but the puntilletics guys are not quite as high on him as I thought they were going to be, but from watching him all season, I thought they're going to have this guy back. Oh, so you think you know more ball than them.

Got the eye. No. Wow. I don't have. I don't have them. They're not high on them, but I watched them all year. We know for a fact that at least one of the guys at PunchedLivics is a diehard Eagles fan listens to the show.

No, I'm not. I'm not taking shots. You took that as a shot at Puntiletics. I didn't mean it that way. That's exactly how you said it. I used Puntiletics as a reference and I just wanted to add the context that they were not as high on them as we were. For the record, I often refer to other media entities and it's not because I support what

their opinions are. Oh, no. I, you guys think I'm against puntilletics? What are we doing here? Let the records speak to itself. I think, I think Braden Man is not quite as good. I could be exactly wrong about this.

I think he's not as good at like shortfield punting. Oh, so that maybe that's why the analytics thing. I don't know. But, yeah. We should have him on. I think he was a pleasant surprise this year. Please don't pit me against the punt deltics guys. I really value them as a resource.

Look into the camera and apologize. I am sorry. I do not have V-I for punting performances, and I didn't mean this as a slight. Just trying to add the context to the show. That's all. I see a good comment. Puntiletics doesn't know ball.

They just like it. Very good. Well, if it's them and day news, that's good company. That's right. All right. Next up, we have a trade possibility, and that is Tanner McKee. Will the Eagles hold on to him

to be their backup on the final year? of his rookie deal and risk getting nothing for him? Or will they try to cash in, seeing as we all have Jailen Hertz as our number one most likely return? E.J., where do you have Tanner McKee? I got him at 10? Really? Where are you at?

I'm at 6. Okay. I'm at 5. Okay. I think that if there's a market for him, the Eagles would be, I mean, they would be open to trading him, right? I think that there should be some potential destinations. I actually wrote some destinations down.

You guys want to react to them? Sure. Yeah. The Minnesota Vikings. Oh, that's an interesting one. They have multiple day two picks. They've got number 49, number 82, and number 97. Would you do Tanner McKee for, let's say number 97?

For free, yes. Would you trade Tanner McKee for number 97? I think if you're trading Tanner McKee, it is a 2027 conditional pick and you're betting on his upside. Okay. That's not the deal. Miami Dolphins. Yeah.

Petulow. Jets has a bridge. I didn't feel as good about that one. Yeah. I think that's an interesting one. The Steelers? Notably not. I think it's a super chat.

If Aaron Rogers retires, I don't think that that's altogether crazy. The Cleveland rounds. I think that's possible. It's possible. I think the Vikings is a fun one. Vikings is a fun one. I feel like Miami.

Especially like some Sean Mannion back channeling going on. Like, oh, yeah, this Tanner tape. I think the Miami, you get the AJ Philly redo. You get Cahillow. Yeah. He can vouch for him. It's going to be a lot of sunscreen that tennis got to wear. But I think that's a one that makes sense.

Yeah. Okay. Next up. Agbo Okarankuo. The only man with more O's than more Ojimo. I got him at 20. 24. 26.

20. Wow. I mean, no, like could he wind up back on the practice squad? I think that's right. I think that's the thing

to be worried about here with Ogbo is that I think he has now moved to less likely to be on a roster than more likely. And so that means he will be bouncing around and could always come back. Yeah.

His position was tough because Ojolari, Ogbo, Ushay, Phillips. Is Osiari next? We were just tipping this. I'm excited to hear what you guys have O'Jolari. Okay.

As OJolari is next. Once upon a time, my friend, Duffy, draft. Yeah. Favorite. Yep. Injuries have taken their toll. Kind of a weird season for him. Yeah.

Here with the Eagles. Fran, I'm going to let you go first. I guarantee I'm going to be higher on him. But only because he's got the pedigree, I could see him stick. He'd be the one where I'm like, oh, like, practice squad. I haven't met 18. 18. 18.

Yeah, I know. What do you want to tell you? I got him 27. I got him a 26. 27? I haven't a 26. It's a fresh start elsewhere. Yeah, I think.

Where's there getting a fresh start? I would be surprised if he's on a practice squad. I think I do think that he actually stays on a roster somewhere. Yeah, but I feel like both. I don't know. He was giving four million. That's why I think that there's a chance that he's like, you know, that he's still like

viable. I think he would probably like to start fresh somewhere. And I think the Eagles, I mean, I think the girls loved to have him back on the prize spot. I don't think that he enjoyed his experience here. Right. That's what I'm saying. Dick didn't love him, obviously. They didn't play.

So, yeah, I think he's gone. I think he's gone. All right. Very interesting one now. One of the big decisions of the offseason for the Eagles. Arguably their biggest on defense. And that is Jalen Phillips. I think the Eagles would love to have Jalen Phillips back.

What kind of market will he have? Are they willing to move some money around in order to sign him long term? Is there a chance that they could, come to terms on a one-year prove-it deal. E.J. Where do you have Jalen Phillips? I've got him ranked number nine. He's right next to Dallas-Gaught for me,

and I think that's one of the more interesting if you only could sign one, who would you choose? I think that the reason I have him ranked lower on my list than Dallas-Gaudert as, aka, less likely to return, is because of the fact that I think he's going to have a market. I know that the end.

injury history is a big reason why you would suspect that maybe he won't get like top of the eddresher market or even close to that top range. But I think Chase Young is a template at 17 million a year with the Saints. I do think that that's probably the floor for a player like Jalen Phillips, or at least that's the neighborhood that you'd expect him to be in. I don't know if the Eagles are going to get that high on price for Jalen Phillips. So if again, if he has a tepid market where teams are skeptical of the injury history, I think the Eagles would love to have him back. He checks a lot of the boxes, the Eagles value at the position. I just, I think he's going to get interest enough from elsewhere that they're not going to be able to afford him.

I also haven't met exactly number nine. Okay. Fran? For the reasons that you laid out, I'm a little lower, but same range. I have him at 12. Okay. Yeah, I think, I think the Eagles would love to have him back. I think free agency.

I think he would like to come back too. I think so, too. Yeah. It's the greatest thing he's ever happened to him in his life. He said it. As a man expecting a baby and a marriage. But I think he's going to have enough of a market that the Eagles will be outpriced. Yeah.

He made the top ten for you guys, though. Doesn't he feel... Hearing you guys talk about it doesn't match with the ranking in my mind. Well, I think it... See, that's where you have to remember. Like, there's a big tier skip after number seven, right? Like, that is where you start to get to... That's where I say depends on market, probably.

50, 50 or worse. Yeah, to me, I think it was an eight for me. But yes, he was the next. And because I think they would like him back. Whereas everybody else, I don't know that they were really like. Like the next player on my list after him is Marcus Epps. I think they'd be happy to have him back on my price, but it's not a priority for them. Yeah.

All right. Four more to go. This is fun. Isn't it? Yeah, it's super fun. Yeah. Fantastic. Matt Pryor.

Matt Pryor. Oh, wait. Speaking of me having fun, you should read the super chats before, before. All right. I'll get the super chat before over time. Kyler, regarding yesterday's show, E.J. does so many things well,

but that wasn't his best day. It wasn't. I don't know. No, let me address it. It wasn't my best day. It wasn't my best day. We podcast every day. Some of them are going to be the best.

You know that's going to affect E.J.'s psyche. It's fine. Put that on paper. Thank you, though. I appreciate it. But now, it wasn't the best show for me. Come on. It's all good.

I disagree. They can't all be, you know, I don't even get to see it. Can't bat a thousand. That's right. Robert Blinky, do you think it would be better to convince a team

with a young QB, like the Raiders or Titans, they need a top weapon like AJ and target a 2027 first? I personally would be targeting 2027 capital. Yes. Personally.

It's hard. But everybody's because, you know, yeah, you want to prioritize this window. Yeah. But I think you also have to prioritize if you're trading in your chips

on AJ Brown, you want to get what he's worth. Yeah. So I think you would hope that you can get a little bit of both. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. I think that makes sense. Yeah.

Something like that. Musa. Devante are going to have a 95% target share next season if they move on from AJ and Dallas. Jason Hertz's track record of throwing to people he's not familiar with. That is possible. Can you imagine? If they entered next season with no Dallas, no AJ and it was just kind of like

nobody else really. Like, Devante will set the Eagles single season record for receptions, no doubt about it. Yep. John Dotson to the moon. You heard it here first. You heard it here first. To the moon. You got, all right.

Before we get to Bover time, we've got Matt Pryor who we talked about. Well, we were about to talk about. Jeff Statland defected. I'll go first here. I got Matt Pryor 23. Oh, man. I had him at 15. Really?

I just, I figured he's, there's a path for him to come. back on the practice squad, I felt like it was likely enough. Like, is he a guy who's going to get like signed elsewhere snatched up? I mean, he started games for Chicago last year. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I think he's a competent lineman, but I just think that with the, the change at Stotland.

I'm expecting some differential. I mean, style that they want. Sure. I have him at 25. Okay. Like that makes sense. And that sends us to Boevertime. 15.

Wow. 15. Three more. Let's stay on the offensive line Fran, you're going to go first on Brett Tooth. He was my easy 27. Really? Yeah.

27. Yeah. I just feel like that that's the one where it's like, Stout's not here anymore. That's the, I think that's the one. Where do you have him? Yeah, I'm at 27, too, don't you? No, I had John Dutton at 27.

Oh, yeah, that's right. I have him at 17. Whoa. Okay, that makes you feel better. I have him at 16. If Stowland, we're still here, I would have had Brett Toth in my top five.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not about it. I still think he has enough of like the bona fides as like the unofficial assistant offensive line coach that even though they changed over the offensive staff, I still think he's not going to want to go anywhere. And that's how I feel is like to say we can stash him on the practice squad.

He's played games for us. If he's just going to be on a practice squad, his family's already here. Yeah. You know, does he want to go somewhere else? But I am not discounting. the possibility that Howie Roseman feels some kind of way about Jeff Stylund leaving them in the lurch

and so Brett Tooth is on the do not sign list over my dead body just out of spite. No Stalyn disciples. I mean it's gonna be hard to get rid all the Stalyn disciples in that room. But he knows that's his guy. Yeah. Yeah, I would say it like and I'm me saying I think that...

I mean, Brett Tooth played well this year. Yeah, at center. He belongs in a particular. Yeah. I feel okay about where I have him. feel worse about the prior one yeah all right two more Josh Ushay uh showed a little bit of juice early on yep and then fell out of the rotation yep where do you have me jay i have him at 24 that's a big swing player go ahead go ahead go i got him at 19 oh i'm an 11 11 yeah well that says

so the and this was the position where it's like ah like you have all these guys That's interesting. 11. He was, as you mentioned, he was very much in the mix. I feel like Vick does kind of like him, just kind of hearing him talk about him in the first half of the year. Obviously, I kind of had to play him out of necessity. A lot of his turn over there.

I think he's a better scheme fit than some of these other guys, so I had those other guys lower. I feel like he's going to get interest from elsewhere for some of these reasons, though, don't you think? I don't know that he's going to get a ton of interest. I don't think that he was super happy about falling out of the rotation once BG came back. I like to Josh Hushay in the locker room, so I'd be in face. I'm coming back were you at 22 no I was at 19 I was at 24 24 yeah all right that's a big that's a man heavy swing player one more to go very interesting

how does how does he how much does he love his fullbacks Ben van sumeran who played one snap on the season poor guy do we let him go last or first is I think we got he make him go first on Ben van van sumeren Ben van sumer and E.J I have one I have him 22 I don't feel good I hated. This was the player that I was referencing earlier in the show. Go ahead.

You can wait to see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna be higher on? Go ahead. I'm at 16. I have an eight. Eight. He's because,

uh, I think you're right. Because he's not going to have a market. He's coming off the ACL. This is a new. They're going to feel bad for him and bring him back in training. How many fullbacks are going to have on the roster? Right.

Well, they've got Carson Steel. He's the superior player than your, then your, then your, then your guy. I love, I listen,

and nobody has been a bigger fan of Ben Van Sumer on this show than me. I wish I had him a little higher. I think it's a stretch to say he's a superior player to Cam Latu. We haven't seen Ben Van Sumer and play that much fullback. I totally agree with you. He's a better special teamer. He is a better special teamer. I think he's a better blocker.

No. Come on. Come on, Fran. How are you going to say that he's a better blocker than Cam Latu? Well, Cam Latu's not Rob Grancowski. Like, what are we talked about? I like Benvenson. I feel like he was,

he just made it out of my need of fresh start elsewhere tier. I feel bad for the guy. I mean, it's brutal. I feel like that's why they bring him to training camp because they felt that about how he's not going to do that. He's not going to do like a pity, pity spot.

There are nine players before Lindsay takes us through the full rosters there. Nine players here I've done the differences between any, any two of us where there's a greater, there's a double digit difference. Okay, I have eight of these, so let's see what you got. Okay, so Nkoby Dean, Fran and EJ are 10 apart on. He's got him at 21, EJ's got him at 11. Marcus Epps, me and EJ are 10 apart.

I've got him at 10, EJ's got him at 21. Dallas Goddard is the one that's very interesting because Fran is so low on him. He's at 24. I'm at 13, EJ's at 8. So that is a, absolutely a swing player. Adore Jackson, EJ's at 8. 18 Franz at 7. So that's a double-digit difference.

And then at the very end, there's a run of four straight where Fran and EJ are wildly apart. Matt Pryor, EJ's at 15, Franz at 25. Brett Tooth, EJ's at 16, Franz at 27. And then it flips because Josh Ushay, Franz at 11, EJ's at 24. And BVS, friends at 8, EJ's at 22. It's funny. It points when you're reading that out. From you on Tooth.

At points when you're reading that out, I'm like, oh, I don't feel good about that. But by the end, I feel okay about it. It's going to be interesting to see how that plays out. Like, we can lose a couple. That's the widest variance we've ever had. Well, I think it's the reflection of how hard it was to do the exercise. Like we talked about, yeah, between, you know, 26 and nine. Outside of like Matt Pryor, I don't think there was anybody where one of the rankings can't be explained and understood.

Right. Sure. Like my Matt Pryor thing, I'm a little bit. like yeah yeah I probably would have put them lower in hindsight but the rest of them like I don't know I think I you can see where everyone was coming from uh you were you were high man on six players and low man on six players you but you was good right down the middle um and when it comes to the this exercise I was low man 10 times and high man nine times oh EJ was high man nine times and low man one two three four five six

Eight times. Okay. So we had conviction. Yeah. I mean, it'll now come down to who of the wide variance guys. Yes. Who of those guys hits? This was very fun.

I'm going to do just quickly the top, our top eights again, just to see how much. So of my top eight, Fran has two people who are out of that, who are like truly out of it. You've got BG at 10. I've got them at four. And you've got A.J. 15. Yeah. That's a big one. Whereas E.J.'s got Tanner McKee at 10 and A.J. Brown at 12. So not huge differences. Fran's top eight, I've got two guys who are low, and that's a three. I've got Reed at 11. You've got them at four.

You've got Adori at seven. And me and E.J. I have them at 15. E.J.'s got him at 18. And then you've got Van Sumer, who we just talked about. Yep. And then E.J.'s top eight. It's the only. crazy one is Goddard, who you have at 24, and I've got a 13. It's going to be fun. Yeah, it's going to be a fun on the track. Can't wait to see how I had. I had a question for you guys while we were going through the exercise. Who do you think is the most likely, like, to sign a deal in the legal tampering period, like first, like first day? Good one. You know, is it, is it Jalen Phillips? Is it, I mean, is it Dallas Goddard? Somebody that's, they're signing elsewhere, not with the that's a good one. Where, you know, I feel like every year there's one where, you know,

It's oh man that equals player is gone right out the right off the bat who do you think it's going to be I think the most likely is probably Jalen Phillips yeah I think Jalen Phillips is a safe one but does like Does it take some time for him to for his market to materialize because of the injury history I don't know I think actually I think it probably goes pretty quickly the guys that come to mind right off the bat are I got a Jalen read and a Kobe I think Nikobe is a stinky one I think the go go Kobe's injury history is the it would be the same question Yeah, but I could see, I think I could see Nacobi being like proactive enough about like, I also think what's out there, you know, thinking about it, linebacker usually moves quick. Yeah.

It's like there's like two guys at the top of the market. And it's like whoever wants a linebacker goes and gets those guys, whereas the edge guys sometimes last a little bit longer. Yep. And like Jalen Phillips might really expect he's going to get a certain number and wait for that number. I think Nicobe's representation will probably tell him if you've got a good offer, let's take it. Yeah. Because those spots will dry up. Yep.

Let me take a big swing and then we can clip it if I'm right sure Marcus Epps maybe Marcus Epps could be like a quick A quick signing yeah you know like he finds an opportunity like so he's gone I told you was a big swing you want a bet on it I could see read also yeah yeah yeah yeah signs of Dallas for you know yeah super chats got some more dinkleberg I see paling around Ben Fran Sumeran because they're so high on it I like that. And a very generous super chat from Fresh Prince. He says,

did you guys hear Micah Parsons told AJ on his pod, the Eagles offered Jalen Carter for him? Micah said he would have wanted to play with Carter. Do you think the Eagles offered J.C.? Or was that a counter from the Cowboys? I would suspect that that maybe was a counter from the Cowboys in the sense of they weren't going to trade him to the Eagles. So make a ridiculous offer.

And we know that they wanted defensive tackles. So that makes sense that they countered. Yeah. But I would be very surprised if the Eagles were using Jalen Carter as trade bait and this Michael Parsons conversation. Honestly, when I heard Micah say it, he kind of said it in a way where I was like, I don't even know what to make of this. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Wouldn't shock me. Okay. I'll tell you what, in that lucid dream that I had, the idea of trading Jalen Carter, this off season. Right. I don't think is. It's not crazy. Entirely insane. Yeah.

Yeah. I agree. I think you've got a real serious windfall You probably still find a defensive tackle it's not crazy I think based off of the fact that this dream was leaked It was a compelling argument And anyway it is also I mean it is an anathema to everything how he Roseman has sort of ever cared about Yeah

Blue Chip players and on the line of scrimmage But I don't know if you got enough it's not crazy yeah it's a bit some good stories from the road I heard. I just had like things that I like took down that I was like I want to bring this up on the show. Please. All right. Just got off on a terrible start. So take a car to the airport or Uber to the airport. Got my bag. Get my AirPods. Take the, literally pulled away from the house. Open up the case. AirPods not in there. Ooh, that's right as you left for the flight. Right. As left for the flight. Disaster. Disaster. And it's a lot.

You're flying. Texas. And then it's flight to Florida. And then flight back from the Warlands. So it's like, you have no choice but to buy the cheap ones at the airport. Right? Had to.

Yeah. And you say the cheap ones at the airport. They are cheap by product, but they are not cheap by price. Yes. And so I, I drop 60 bucks on wireless. Like,

I just. And they're awful. Terrible. They are like, but you have no choice. Yeah. And so now I are, and I stay committed to them.

Hostage. Yeah. At some point, Do you just want to, like, bite the bullet and get maybe like a complimentary pair of headphones? It's more expensive. Yeah, but where they're not going to the phone. Hmm. Okay.

Fair. Just a terrible. Yeah. I'm sorry. That's awful. That's terrible. I mentioned, I talked about the hotel at the shrine. So I stayed down.

No drawers. No drawers in the entire room. So four pillows. Now, here's the thing. I stayed in three hotels in like a two-week span, okay? two of them had these square, bulky throw pillows as the pillows on the bed. Unacceptable. What is going on here?

And it was two separate chains. It wasn't like, oh, like this one chain, like does this. That was my same in San Francisco. They were like. And then the other ones were like too flat. So I had like no good in between. Awful. I slept terribly.

I talked about like the closet having like it was like even like in there. there's no room to hang anything because all the store like the ironing board done there everything's like jammed in there um people remember writing this i was a bit up late uh working at this this house this hotel has thin walls on friday night if this was a swooper if i are if on friday night if i had a swooper on me hearing a heated exchange the i would have won't remember writing that pretty good yep um also sat like ice cold shower in the morning now it could it be that frozen pipes and like stuff like that It was like during the ice storm brutal.

Have you guys... Have you guys... Have you guys been to the star? Not the practice facility. Okay. No. So ironically enough, the Texans just announced that they are opening, they're coming... I think in 2029, they're doing something very similar to this.

But it's... It would be like if the Eagles bought the Navy Yard and built their new facility at the Navy Yard and it's an entire village... Okay. It's... This was my third time there. It's crazy. Like, if that...

I was thinking of like if PHOI had one, it would be like, all right, you have your Wawa, you have an Xfinity store, you have an Omaha steak, house. Like everything is Cowboys branded. Yeah, like it's, it's cool. It's as a like a, you know, like working professional, like looking at it like from a business sense. It's like, this is pretty cool. Like I've stayed in the hotel that's there and it's like everything, you go in the room. It's like everything is cowboys.

Like it's pretty crazy. All right. I take my flight Monday from Dallas to Pennsylvania. Cicola. This is something that I thought was funny. Do you prefer a pilot? Pilot comes on. He talks to, you know, getting ready to pull away from the gate. Do you prefer one that overshares or undershares information happening with the plane? Unders shares. Understair. Yeah. Right? I don't want them up there yapping. I was going to make a bad joke. But I thought, I thought you're going, do you prefer a female pilot or male pilot? I was like that's a man.

So, no, I want, in terms of information, I'll take the overshare, but I don't, I know the irony of this is coming from me. I don't need the whole spiel. Right. I don't need a song and dancer. I was extremely lucky in that it was like something like 70 to 75% of flights out of Dallas from Sunday to Monday were canceled.

Flat out of cancer because of the ice storm. My flight was, like, I was kept checking, kept checking. I was on time the whole time. I go up to the gate and it ended up being like we got on like 30 minutes late. So we get on, we sit down. Pilot comes on.

It's like, hey, like, sorry, I was running late. They were saying they were waiting for the pilot. So he was like, sorry I was running late. I was going to be back there with all of you people. I didn't know I was flying the plane until about 30 minutes ago. Don't say that. Right.

Okay. Check. No. Next one. What are we doing? Hey, we're going to be a little late getting out of the gate. Turns out that the tug down below is either broken or completely frozen.

Looks like it's broken. So I don't know. Could be a little bit. like, okay? Same message. He's like, also, they're having issues with the luggage. Looks like the belt that they have isn't working. So that's going to take a little bit longer. So I'm like, all right, we're going to be sitting here a while. We ended up not being there that bad. Then he jumps back on. And he's like, oh, and they overfilled our fuel tank. So we're working on that issue as well. It's like, okay. Also, I've been drinking since seven o'clock.

A few minutes later. It's like, you know, five, six, seven minutes later, he goes, so talk to a guy down the ground, told him about the tug. It was news to him. He had no idea that it wasn't working. So they're working on that now. Apparently there's also another one down there. Just bad communication. They're going to swap that out for us. Sorry, it's a little bit hectic out here this morning. I'm like, yeah, you know what? Just say that we're going to be like 15 minutes. Yeah. I don't need all that. I think you're right. It's all that. Just bad communication. That's so funny. I was home now at this point. This was last week. You guys are in the Super Bowl. I'm driving a while on the morning.

And I'm listening to, I guess it would have been your sort of been Tuesday morning, listen to the Monday pod. The stewardess, tossing the biscuit in the middle of the middle of the child. That was unbelievable. Absolutely crazy. Like the sleeping woman

was a seal in like at the sea world or something like that. It was nuts. I was just blop on the seat. Crazy. And then E.J. with the toothbrush. I'm with,

I go do not disturb the entire truth. Yeah. Yeah. But if you need towels or extra pillows, you just make the call down and say like, hey, I'll come grabbing from you or bring it out to me like that later. Maybe I will start doing that. Did you agree with my outrage that they put my toothbrush? Don't watch my toothbrush. Thank you.

Yeah. Thank you. Absolutely. Now, somebody in the chat did tell me you can wash your toothbrush by dipping it in mouthwash. No, it's gone. That's throwing in the trash. Okay. Yeah.

Listen, as the resident germaphobe on this show, I respect that conviction. Yeah. That's all I got. That was great. Great stuff. Let's click that. That's. We need that. That's good stuff.

All right. Thanks, everybody. Yeah, it was fun. Good stuff. What? I feel like I can feel, I can hear it in your voice. You're not going to be here for a little while. It's fine with me.

I thought, I heard a little sadness in there. A little blissfulness. Yeah. I don't like hanging out with you guys. Yeah, we love hanging out with you too. All right. Thanks everybody for watching and listening. E.J. and Fran back tomorrow.

Thank you, Lindsay. or I'll say for the third time. Grinding on those numbers today. We really appreciate it. And thanks everybody for watching and listening. Comment below. You know what? If you post your 1 through 27 in the comments,

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