PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Howie Roseman WILL SIGN one of these free agents for Eagles offense | PHLY Eagles Podcast

Episode Date: March 4, 2026

Quacketology is upon us, so we’ve got 32 pending free agents on offense Howie Roseman is likely to consider, from tight ends like Isaiah Likely and Cade Otton to wide receivers like Brandin Cooks and Calvin Austin to offensive lineman like a reunion with Mekhi Becton or ex-first-rounder Jonah Williams. Join EJ Smith and Bo Wulf for the most wonderful time of the year. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello everybody and welcome the P-H-O-Y Eagles podcast on a Wednesday afternoon. We are live here in the X-Finity Studio. And we're presented by our friends and Ashlyn Bo-Wolf, E.J. Smith, you're back. I'm back. And a happy quack-itology to you. Quack, quack. You're back. Your first one.

Yes, I'm very, very excited. I've got a couple of things. Just like a duck. You're very cool and calm up top, but down below, you're pitter-pattering. Who knows what's going on? I don't like that visual that much. I'm very excited for my first quacketology. I was watching quacketologies of old.

Really? So I wore this hoodie because you wore this hoodie two years ago for quacketology. As we all remember. Yes, as everyone will remember. I'm going to try. It was good to listen back to a Zach and Bo version of this show for a few reasons. And by the way, I know that my sicko card has been called into question. I had already watched the quackatology.

Like I had to go from 58 all the way back to zero. Okay. So I just, you know, I'm proving my bona fides here. I'm going to try and sprinkle in some like ZB references because again, it was like re-energizing to listen to ZB on the show. So you will be hearing some Jim Beheim references. And you will be hearing. You don't need that.

We definitely don't need Jim Beheim references. The term high watermark. I'm going to try to mix that in every once in a while. Just to, you know, bring some nostalgia to the show. Terrible stuff. Now, some interesting developments on the quacketology front. exciting here for the very first time ever, as I mentioned on the show yesterday with Fran, the Eagles needs in free agency are such that it's pretty evenly split. In fact, it's perfectly

evenly split. We have 32 players on offense on the left side of the bracket and 32 on the right side of the bracket. And actually, we can even take a look at the full bracket. This beautiful. Wow. Look at that. Fantastic. Nice job. And the quacketology logo, Lindsay, just Beautiful. Man, I love that logo. So, before we get into the first matchup, and we'll see how long this takes, this may just be round one today,

round one tomorrow on defense, and then everything on Friday. But as you, as the Eagles enter free agency, and let's make this the Wawa Wednesday, the big deal. Big deal. I'm drinking my Wawa right now.

Shout out to Wawa. What are your big picture expectations for the Eagles in free agency on offense. I think that they need to draft proof for the roster. It's something we've spoken about where the Eagles track record is typically to make sure that you don't go into the draft with any glaring need. So you look at spots like tight end right now, I think wide receiver, the depth at wide

receiver, and then depth along the offensive line. And depending on what happens with Tanner McKee, you might also say quarterback there. They will probably try to make sure that they have competition for those spots going into the draft, even if you do draft somebody in the early rounds, you want to have someone that, again, can provide competition for that player and then puts you into a position where you are in the draft, able to say, okay, this isn't a good spot to take a tackle. So we have, you know, enter insert free agent, whoever wins quackatology here, to make sure that you have addressed that position. So especially at tight end, I think that's going to be important. I'd be

shocked if the Eagles went into the draft, you know, with a glaring hole at tight end. I think that they'll have to do some work in free agency to make sure that they're not forcing that pick in a in a month's time. So let's quickly go through it. There are a couple quarterbacks on the docket today. That is in case they do trade Tanner McKee and they need to backfill there. You will not see any running backs here. Right. It's an interesting running back market, not for the Eagles.

You've got Sequin Barclay. You've got Tank Pigsby. You've got Will Shipley. That's fine. And I think it would be nice for them to add somebody in the draft, but they don't need to worry about this in free agency. Wide receiver, there will be several wide receivers that we discuss. If they trade AJ Brown, it's a different type of wide receiver you're looking for. If they keep AJ Brown, I think you still want somebody.

Now, I think they could enter the draft as is at wide receiver with Harris Cooper and maybe Johnny Wilson coming back. Like, they're not going to be good going into week one with that. But I think you could go in the draft, figure out what you have, and then there will be somebody available to add to the group afterwards. Tight end, obviously, is the major. one and there are a lot of tight ends we're going to discuss today. So how do you view if they do let Dallas got or go, which I do not think is a fair to complete at all? Yeah, I agree with that.

I thought you guys did a good job framing that on yesterday's show. And I thought the conversation with friend was good in the sense of, do you think it would make more sense, and we will discuss this when we get to the players, to sign someone like a K.aten, who can be your starter and do both for you, or to sign two conversations. complementary parts, a receiving tight end, a blocking tight end.

And now you have, with those two guys, like enough for a room. And then you see what comes in the draft. Yeah, I slightly lean toward like the K. Doughton type, you know, like a professional. You can have someone that you feel. Because like the thing about K. Dotten that we'll talk about is like it's a player that you can just put in as your number one tight end and feel good about that. And I think that there are some other guys that we will talk about that fit that mold. I understand like the Porcain-Noos Dose argument with like,

some of these guys who are going to get six or seven million dollars, and you get two of them, and that really does kind of draft-proof the room. But I don't know, it's such a good draft for dirty work tight ends, guys that can fill out the room, and I almost would feel okay, paying for, you know, somebody that you can feature.

Again, this does depend heavily on Jalen Phillips, right? You know, if you're signing Jalen Phillips to a high, you know, a high number, you're not going to have as much room to maybe sign two of those guys. But for that, or, you know, one of the guys at the top of the market either. But I do think if you told me that they could secure, like somebody you feel good about being a number one, and then they go into the draft trying to make sure they have the number two and number three really penned down by the end of the draft,

I'd feel okay about that. You go the other way? I do go the other way. As I look at it, there was one person who I feel differently about. But I feel like even K.aten, I feel like the second you sign K.Doughton, you're preparing to replace him. KDotten's not my answer for the record. Yeah. A player like Kedotten.

Yeah, the production, if you signed a player like KDaten, you would say, okay, we're going to put him into like a Dallas Goddard role. And you're expecting maybe not quite Dallas Goddard production, but close to it's close to it, I would say. Yeah, but the money it's going to take to. Sure. KD. I know, I know. But the money would take to sign a player like that who at the top of the tight end market, it's more that the money you're spending is like if you signed an edge guy for that, they're starting. Right. If you if you, if you sign. any other position, they're here for at least two years. Yeah. You sign a tight end like that. Like, I don't know. If you draft a tight end in the second round, KDaten can go to the curb next year. Yeah,

I think we're probably, so it's funny because I'm probably talking about a player slightly below that KDaten market, and you're talking about a player slightly like above the market I'm probably arguing against. I think we're probably closer to this. And then I also think that I think offensive line is something that I do expect them to address in some degree in free agency with a Mackay-Bectin-type signing, somebody who has some theoretical position versatility,

some real upside to add to a group that needs real backup plans. And if you want to talk about actually draft proofing, having someone who you could rely on starting if Lane can't start week one or whatever it is without having to use a first-round pick on it, I think it is something that they will try to do. And what we haven't talked about yet, what makes all of this so interesting

is the most fascinating part of how they attack free agency. is it's an entirely new offensive staff. Yeah. The new offensive line coach, it's a new offensive coordinator, obviously. The whole staff is different. And so they get, this is where, unlike the draft,

where you got to just sort of let it come to you and draft the best of what is available, there are, you can pick and choose and spend on what you want to add specifically to this offense. And so it is going to be some truth telling. Yeah, it was a fun exercise. You can see my,

this is about as good as a spreadsheet can look for me. It's pretty good. There's checkboxes. is in there. Look at this. The cohabitation matrix. Yeah, nicely done.

And the cohabitation matrix is a lot different for the Eagles these days because they have a new offensive staff. So, you know, I see Anthony De Bona in the chat. I saw that he went through and like tried to figure out all the players that have touch points to the new Eagles offensive staff. I did something similar last night.

And it was definitely a different exercise because you're like, where has that guy been? So yeah, there will be some interesting names to talk about here because they have worked with guys who are now on the Eagle staff. All right. Let's get into it. Close the book on the big deal presented

by our friends at Wawa and we start at the top. Now, usually, bracketology, bracketed randomly with maybe a few little tweaks in there. But, you know, Jim Beheim got in the year of the selection committee and now there's a new process.

I don't know why on such a fun day you would bring up someone I hate. That's the point. Doesn't it make you feel nostalgic? Doesn't it bring you back? Instead, this year, We have an S curve based on projected guaranteed money.

So the number one seed of all the potential signings for the Eagles on offense in terms of the projected money that we're expecting them to get is Isaiah likely. Isaiah likely, the Baltimore Ravens tight end. And he is going up against the 32 seed, as it were, our old friend Jack stole. And so let's talk tight ends. Isaiah likely 6-4-245 has obviously been the backup to Mark Andrews over the course of his rookie contract. You can talk yourself into the upside here. Fran discussed on the show yesterday that, you know, likely had some pretty good blocking highlights at Coastal Carolina.

He has not been used quite that way in the NFL. In fact, in terms of just like go out and line up on the slot and be a receiver, only Mark Andrews in the same offense. and Mike Gassicki have lined up in the slot more than Isaiah likely over the past couple seasons. But if you're thinking like as, as Howie Roseman needs to think with these things, who is someone who you can get more out of? You can get surplus value out of. Okay, so you're going to like this. I've got three templates here as past Eagles signings.

And I think Isaiah likely falls into one of the three. Okay. Do you want to guess which one? Or do you want me to give you the three and then you can guess? Just go ahead. Okay. My three are Mackay Bechton, Sequin, Barclay and Brandon Brooks. Three success stories that the Eagles have had in free agency.

I think Isaiah likely fits into the Seekwon Berkeley camp. Draft pedigree. A, you know, traitsy player that you, maybe, like you said, can extract more from. I mean, Sequan's like a little bit different. I mean, but, you know, it's kind of in that vein. I think that Seekwon and Mackay Bechton are probably, like, in the same vein, obviously, Seacquon is a lot more successful. But, you know, the draft, a player with draft pedigree who is someone who, again, you think the second chapter is going to be the best chapter.

Yeah, if you take out the games that, or if you just extrapolate the games that Mark Andrews missed over the course of Isaiah Leckley's rookie contract. I like this. And also add on the games that he played at least 75% of the snaps where he was like really involved in the offense. You extrapolate that out to a full season. It's not a thousand yard season. It's like 50 catches for 700 yards. Yeah. He's, as it says there,

going to be 26 years old this season. I think if the Eagles are going to spend at the position, truly at the top of the market, Isaiah likely would be the guy more than the K. Toten types because I think you can sell yourself on the upside. Now, we also have to discuss the thing that Harry Roseman said about needing to care more about blocking. I still don't think he's going to pay a lot of money

for someone who can't be a factor as a receiver. Right. No, I completely agree. And I think that Isaiah likely, you can already hear Howie Roseman saying, you know, we looked at his tape in college and we think that he can be a plus on the run game as well because of the tools in his body. You can hear how he was been saying that.

The thing I wrote down for Isaiah likely is we have Kenyan Sadiq at home. And that is who, it's funny, if you go to Franz Draft Guide, which everybody should become a diehard, go to all p.hoy.com and, you know, check out Franz draft guide. The player comp for won Kenyan Sadeek, a souped up Isaiah likely. So maybe if you are watching Kenyon Sadiq taping, you're like, man, it'd just be so good to put this player into a Sean Mannyin offense. Maybe Isaiah likely is the draft proofing that you can do in free agency there. I think he is enough to make you not have to worry about drafting a tight end.

Yeah, I don't know if you draft Kenyan Sadiq if you have Isaiah likely. We have Kenyan Sadiq at home. Now on the other side, old friend Jack Stoll, one of the great voices in the locker room, love that gravel. Okay, I didn't thought about that. Oh, great deep baritone out of Jack Stoll. Jalen trusts him. You know that. Here's a fun one.

These are Jack Stoll's target rates by season. Okay. So this is just the amount of times he's thrown at when he runs a route. As a rookie, with the Eagles, 7.6%. 2022, 6.5%. 2023, 5.6%. 2024, back up to 7.6%. only 1%.

2025 with the Saints. 23.4%. They started throwing him the ball when he was on the field. I love the, I will always love, Jalen trusts him. That was my only note. Jalen Hertz trusts him. Has never been thrown to. Here's, I have one trivia question for you here.

Jack Stoll has played 54 games with Jalen Hertz. Okay. That ranks six on the Eagles in, terms among all eligible pass catchers. Yeah. Where would you think that Jack Stoll ranks over the course of Jalen Hertz's career in how many times he's targeted him? And how many people are in the sample?

Everyone Jalen's ever played with the Eagles. Yeah, do you not know how many there have been? Well, that's what I'm asking you. He ranks sixth in terms of games played next to Jalen Hertz. Yes. Where does he rank in targets? Yeah, but I'm saying like how many players are even on the list. I don't know.

Use your brain. Probably 50? I would like to know because I imagine he's probably last or second to last. I'm going to guess 50 second. In total targets, DJ, come on. Yeah, I'm bad at these. 15. But wait, how many players have played?

Oh, okay. Do you understand what I'm asking? No, I didn't, obviously. Okay. Of all the players that Jill and Hertz has played with since. Oh, all the players. Okay, I thought you were saying receivers and tight ends only. And running backs.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's six in games played, but 15 in targets, which speaks to the disparity. I mean, yes, I knew the disparity is even terrible. Do you think you could name how many of the 14 players who have more targets? The most targeted players in Gillers' Eagles career. Cuez Watkins has got to be higher.

Well, is number four, believe it or not. Really? Yeah. That does seem higher than I would have expected. There are 14 above. If you can get over, if you can get 11. No, I don't want to do this. If you can get 11 or more.

Then when we are at an impasse, I'm voting for one, you're voting for the other. I will concede it. I will concede it because this is terrible podcast. Oh, come on. This is bad podcast. Me just sitting there. Jaylen Hertz is targeted the most. I'm going to try and think of like one more obscure one.

I mean, Grant Calcutera. Grand Calcutera is above him. He's a number 12. Okay, but it's close. This is such bad podcasting. I don't want to do this. Oh my gosh. I don't want to do it.

I don't want to do it. Have you ever heard of Devante Smith? He's number one. Yeah, but I don't want to just, okay, AJ, Devante. Yeah. And then from there, it's harder. Well, you can get number three.

Dallas got her. Yes. And then. Wes is four, which is funny. Wes is four. That shocks me. Yeah, like I said, don't forget about running back.

Okay. So we're going to go Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders is number eight. Okay. Is Sequin higher than Miles Sanders? Sequin is number six. Oh, wow. Okay.

Is Will Shipley above him? Will Shipley is actually not above him. Okay. Will Shipley is all the way down at 20. Kenneth Gainwell is number five. DeAndre Swift. The Andre Swift is there. He's number 11.

Oh, okay. Number seven, Jalen Rager. Yeah, that, we could have been here for a while. 2020 heavy. Number nine, will be discussed today. That's Zach Ertz. Oh, okay. All right.

Number 13, Boston Scott and number 14, Greg Ward. Boston Scott has more targets than Jack Stoll. So does Greg Ward. Greg Ward doesn't surprise me as much because Greg Ward had that sneaky 2019 season with Jaylen. Or no, 2020. Yeah, yeah. All right. This was terrible.

What's more likely? Jack stole or Isaiah likely? Isaiah likely. The chat has weighed in over 70% with Isaiah likely. Congratulations to Isaiah likely, the number one seed moving on second round. Cuez Watkins has the fourth most. That's insane. Jaila Hertz's career.

Yeah, I would have thought like Quez would have been like 10th, 11th. There you go. All right, we're through one matchup. Time to take a break. Rick. Back with much more on the other side. Coming up next, Adam Troutman against Joe Flacco, Charlie Kohler against Jamari Salier, and Joanne Jennings against the aforementioned Zacherts. Hey, Lindsay, what time is it? Oh, yeah, that's right. It's time to make your home work smarter, not harder. Because with the True Mark Financial Home Equity line of credit, you can tap into your

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The matchup number two here. Now, you will notice, I didn't say this for the other listeners. We have projected contract details for everybody we're talking about today. So next up is Adam Troutman against Joe Flacko. Adam Troutman, the Broncos tied end, formerly of Dayton, 29 years old. The contract we have here is a two-year deal for $14 million with $7 million guaranteed, which, I mean, that's about what blocking tight ends get paid. Now, we did the exercise yesterday with Fran,

where if you split up all the free agent tight ends into efficient route runners and asked to block, to pass block, just as a proxy for, you know, being trusted. as a blocker. He's one of the two guys who was just barely above average in both. But, you know, his career high in receiving yards is 263 and that was back in 2021. So this is not someone you were adding and all of a sudden expecting to be a real part of the passing game. Right. Yeah, he did seem limited in terms of a pass catcher, which, yeah, it's probably one of those. He'd be ideal in a, you're signing two tight ends and you expect him to be more of the dirty work one. And for me, it is. It's tough because I think you can find that guy in the draft.

I think that's probably right. Yeah. On the other hand, Joe Flacco. Now, let's pretend this is a world in which they've gotten something for Tanner McKee. Yeah. You know, a third or a second, whatever it is. Do you think there's any interest in a reunion with 41-year-old Joe Flacco, who, of course, as we all remember, shared a plane with Lindsay and Ben? Oh, yeah.

Before the Super Bowl. Um. I think Lindsay wants to weigh in here. Oh, okay. All right. I, like, thought that was going to be one of your notes on his thing. Oh, it is. Sorry.

I didn't read them. I just copied and wasted them. Yes, Joe Flacco, with his kids old enough that they could join the offensive staff. Well, Flacco doesn't have as much experience in, like, a Mannion scheme. Yeah. Which gives me pause. So I think I'd probably lean Troutman here, even though I don't feel amazing about it about either of these. But, yeah, it just feels.

like if they were going to sign a backup, some of the other ones that we have in the field make more sense because we've heard so much about the translator. I think you're right. You know, the quarterback's who can, you know, the quarterback's coaches who can help kind of integrate the scheme as much as Joe Flacco is like, you know,

Sean Mannion from a different, he's a variance of Sean Mannion if you want to borrow a term from the Star World, Star Wars universe. I don't know if he is enough of like a McVeigh-Shannahan hand-influenced variant to make that much sense. I think that's right. I think I think Flacco, the only reason that he would want to come here is just to stay home.

Sure. I think, I think this is not the most ideal fit. And a great note in the chat. And boy, does this speak to the, just the life experience that our sickos are bringing to the table here? Jake Beckman says he sat next to Adam Troutman's mom during the Eagles Broncos game.

Wow. She was chill. even after the garbage intentional grounding call. So I think we have no choice but to back up Jake here and move Adam Troutman on to the second round, Quacketology. Shout out to Mrs. Troutman. There we and too.

Next up, congratulations to Adam Troutman. The chat was behind us on this one. Okay, yeah, Flacco, that was a, you know, they can't all be winners. Yeah. All right, next up is another interesting one with another tight end as we continue our focus on that position.

And this is Charlie Kohler, the third tight end from the Baltimore Ravens, uh-oh, who is an interesting player. Yeah. 27 years old. And there are people who really love his blocking. There are people out there who really love his blocking. And you know what? This is funny because we are going to be at odds on this one.

Okay. 27 years old. Our projected contract details here are three years, what is that? 22 million with 14 guaranteed. and there are people who like really think he's going to have a big market. There are. Yeah. It's an interesting art for him as well.

You know, in college, he was, he was just a volume pass catcher in Iowa State. And so he did change the type of player that he was with the Ravens. My hang up with Charlie Kohler. And also when he, when he,

as a receiver, yards for up run, very efficient. He's got some juice. 1.8, like, that's top. eight in the league, but it's a very small sample size. And this is someone who over the course of his rookie career,

who is rookie contract, four years, E.J. Has played more than 50 snaps in a single game only seven times. Yeah. We love an underutilized game. You're gonna sign a guy to be your starting tight end who has never played more than half of a season playing half of the game, half of a game. he's got a great agent.

No, he does. No, no, no, no, no, no, don't make this about the agent. No, about the type. It's about the film. Charlie Cohen is going to get paid. This guy has an agent who was working overtime. All right, you know, but we're going to have an exercise here. Okay.

First least first. I told you before the show, there was a player that I did, I did research on today, and I texted Fran and said, Chig O'Conku. because I got a little hot and bothered. I want you to read my notes on Charlie Kohler. 34, this is all caps. 34 inch arms, oh my God.

E.J. has heart emojis for him. This is my type of player. Big, physical. I won't make you describe the clip, but I was so excited watching a clip of Charlie Kohler this morning. Which one? I thought about doing. I thought about doing.

the grab he grabs. I thought about sending Lindsay the screenshots, and I was going to do a terrible Fran impersonation. This guy is built for the offense they want to run. If you want to find a tight end who can actually hold and seal the edge on an outside zone, he's your guy. He's got long arms. He's physical.

And the reason, it's not the agent. It's not the agent. It's the tape. He's got juice as a pass catcher. He's got juice as run after the catch threat. He's physical. Like, to me,

the right template for a tight end in this system, in particular. I'm not comparing Charlie Colar to this player for the record because there are levels here. But you want like a George Kettle type, right? He wants someone who is an absolute demon in the run game,

who is because they are so good in the run game, their physicality and their athleticism make them dynamic as a pass catcher as well. And I think that that is the high watermark for Charlie Kohler here. I'm not saying that we've seen it because of the fact that he's been the third tight end of Baltimore

and he's had limited opportunity to show it. I don't think you sign him and go, that's our number one tight end. We're done at the position. But I think that's like a really good high upside swing depending on what the market is. So I was very excited about Charlie Kohler.

He may or may not be my favorite player that I looked at today. Really? I mean, he is more of a high variance player. But come on, like you know me. You know this is my type of player. Like physical profile traits over production. Yeah, he's my guy.

Now very quickly, he's going up against Jamari Sawyer, an offensive lineman from the Los Angeles Chargers, who has 40 starts across the course of his rookie contract between tackle and guard. We're talking to Daniel Popper about him, who did the rankings for the athletic. And the book is, he's a little bit shorter, 6'4, and so the instinct has been to move him to guard, and he hasn't been very good at guard, but he's held up well at tackle. So you're looking at him more as a tackle, but in theory, four positions. backup flex. Our projected contract here is two for eight with five million guaranteed.

Yeah. I like Sawyer, but come on. I like Sawyer enough. I'm willing to go with Kohler moving on here. I think we can, I'm excited to continue the Kohler discussion. Yeah. Okay. Because I am skeptical of just pulling out this guy can be a, this guy can be your number one tight end. But I also don't think you should spend the money on him unless you think that that's true. I mean, it depends on the money, but I think there is enough buzz around his market value that you probably are going to be spending. What was your projection here? I can't read that. 321 with 14 guaranteed.

Yeah. I mean... That might be low. Yeah, but I think that if you can get him for that, I mean, we're doing the exercise with these projections. Even if it's a little higher than that, you sign him and you take it as like a, you know, you're taking a dart throw. But like you feel good about the floor being a guy who is going to be really effective in the running. game and someone you can depend you can depend on in the run game and then maybe you you address it in the draft and you have like two or three avenues toward getting an elite tight end so I I think there's a

chance this is the first one this is like your like your frisky like eight nine matchup on a bracket right where it's like it could go either way maybe it's like a team that won a conference in solier I guess he's not that that yeah I don't think we need to push solier too high up to me I'm a little worried that like they will sign Saltier and my Charlie Kohler, you know, defense is what led us away from it. But I, I'm excited about Charlie Kohler. I think he's awesome. All right. Let's move on Charlie Kohler. By the way, I think Charlie Kohler is also another reminder, as Dallas Goddard is, that when it comes to draft prospects at the tight end position, Jackson Halls aside at a guy at the end of the draft, I don't care if a guy is a good

blocker as long as he is some willingness to do it and the physical attributes to do it. Yes. Dallas Goddard was bagged for his blocking coming in, turned out to be a very good blocker. Charlie Kohler barely blocked. He was a high volume receiver and turned into a supposedly a very good blocker in the other. Oh man. Some of the clips just so good. All right, let's do one quick one here before we go to our next break. Joanne Jennings, the 49ers wide receiver in. He is going up against our friend Zach Ertz. Yeah, this one's easy for.

Here, Joanne Jennings is at 342 with 21 guaranteed. Whereas Ertz, who was coming off pretty gnarly injury. Yeah, it's in December. Significant injury. And it's probably like going to be out until the middle of the season.

But I don't know. I mean, we don't know what the timeline is. He got hurt in December. Yeah. He's old. Obviously, he's, what's you going to be 35 next year, I think? Yeah.

I'd still go arts. I don't know if they're going to be in the Joanne Jennings market for a multitude of reasons. I think he's going to get paid. And I don't know if the Eagles are going to be aggressive in that market. You could talk me into it, but I'd probably go with arts. I think, like, the possibility that, like, Zach Hertz, a couple weeks from now signs with the Eagles, it wouldn't shock me. He does have to marry a hedge of Syriani. I struggle to see the Juwan Jennings thing happen.

the one little thing that's somewhat interesting is that in terms of like average separation, he's like right next to A.J. Brown. Really? Yeah. Because he makes his living on contested catches and he can't separate. But I don't think that the egos are going to,

obviously this would only be if they move on from A.J. Brown. I don't think they're going to then replace him by overpaying for a guy who's already going to be 29, can't really run that fast. To say, average separation in that offense being that low is concerning. The only thing you could squint and see is experience in the offense. But I don't love that. I mean, there are some guys who talk about later that also have experienced.

Right. And so, you know, I think Dom has enough to do. Yeah, I think Zachertz is the one here. I think we can all see Zachertz is a nice second week of free agency, how he's like, I'm going to give the fans a little something. Yeah. Ooh, I think the poll disagrees with this, but I know how you're going to respond to that. That's fine.

I mean, I'm not angry at the poll, but. Yeah, I think there are other receivers. We're advancing seconds. Yeah, there are other receivers I'll pound the table for. All right. Time for a quick brick to hear from some sponsors. On the other side, we roll on with the offense, Juan Dale Robinson. Goes up against, you get to find out who it is.

What did you guess? We're texting about how attractive the person is. Oh, yeah, they should guess. They should guess. Plus, Jalen Naylor, Elijah Vera Tucker, Debo Samuel, Kendrick Bourne, Romeo Dobbs, and a former Boe Wolf Camp Crush. Stay tuned. What if you could have reliable and intelligent Wi-Fi?

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Eagles podcast. Rocketology rolls on as we work through 32 free agent targets for the Eagles to settle on one. Here's this. We're probably going to get through the first round today. This has been fun. Oh, this is over there. And then once you get through the first round,

everything moves quicker. And it starts to get. intense. Next up, Wondale Robinson against Jimmy Garapolo. Wondale Robinson, the Giants slot receiver.

A big year. Only going to be 25 years old next season. Our projected contract here, 348 with 28 guaranteed, which is a little bit pricey, obviously. Now, the thing that I could sell myself on with Wondell Robinson is...

Yeah, let's hear this. I talked about this with Fran. If you are reimagining the offense to find your new number three target, okay, let's just get two blocking tight ends, not even worry about them in the passing game because, you know, Jalen is always going to funnel it to AJ and Devante. Yeah. Maybe Wondell Robinson is the number of three guy, but then you get into willingness to throw over the middle, all that stuff.

How do you feel about Wondell Robinson? Yeah, I just think he's going to get paid more than the Eagles will probably be able to to pay him. He's an interesting player and I think my only concern about what you just laid out there is that does kind of paint you into a corner in terms of what you're able to do offensively. You don't have other levers to pull if you feel like it's a week where you want to be multiple and have, you know, dynamic tight end. So yeah, I think it's a good case, but I think Jimmy Garoppolo is interesting here because he, I see your like eyebrows raising like, oh, why? It has nothing to do with the way he looks, although I wasn't going to say that. I'll say.

He's a handsome man. He is a handsome man, but I think he's interesting, for other reasons. I do think you could see him being like the translator, right? You know, somebody who has worked in these schemes before. Exactly. Him and Jalen in a quarterback room would be fun, maybe a little bit interesting as well. But yeah, I think him being... It is a handsome quarterbacker.

Is that the most handsome quarterback room in the NFL? It's got to be, right? I mean, come on. But I don't know. How does Jalen feel about that, you know, having somebody else super handsome in the NFL? the room. No shade to Tanner McKee. Shout out to Mr. Lindsay, who's basketball team won their playoffs by 20 plus points last night.

Big, big time right there. Yeah. Yeah, I could absolutely see if you are looking for a translator, a scheme Sherpa, as it were, Jimmy G makes a lot of sense. What does scheme Sherpa mean? What am I missing here? I don't know. I just coined it.

I thought the Sherpa, I thought, you know, Jimmy G is a man who maybe wore a Sherpa. What do you think a Sherpa is? Isn't it like a coat? You mean a shacket? No. Isn't Sherpa like a lamb coat? Lindsay, barely out here. A Sherpa is, but it's also, I think, I think that comes from another word that Shurpa means.

Like a leader or something. Yeah, it's like a very like soft, like lamb skin like lining. Okay. The Sherpa people are a Tibetan ethnic group. Okay. I apologize. You know, it doesn't matter what Jimmy G.'s wearing. Sherp or not.

Yeah. Jerper or not. Whatever. What? Did I do something wrong? It's totally fine. It's totally fine. I don't think that it's going to cost a lot of money to get Jimmy G.

Obviously, he only made, I want to say three last year. Yeah. So I could absolutely. see in a world in which you get a third round pick for Tanner McKee. Jimmy G makes a lot of sense. Of the quarterbacks on the list, he was the one I found most intriguing. I agree with that. So we're moving them on over Wondale?

Yep. Congratulations. There are some receivers who I will be more excited for, I promise. Okay. Next up. Jalen Naylor, the Vikings spot wide receiver who reminds me a little bit of Charlie Kohler in the sense that we've got some people who are really gazing up his market.

Yeah, but it's like lack of opportunity too. Yeah. And he is going up against Elijah Vera Tucker from the New York Jets, who, when healthy, has been very good and very versatile, but boy, has he not been healthy. Yeah. So what's the market for Elijah Vera Tucker? So I'll do Nailer first. Nailer we have at 224 with 12 guaranteed.

Mm-hmm. To me, Jill and Nailer is. not that interesting. Yeah, I mean, that's a lot. 85th of 99 wide receivers and yards per route run over the past two seasons. And the volume is not particularly good. I am uninterested in Jalen Naylor.

Elijah Vera Tucker, we have here, I have here a one-year bounceback prove-it deal. Sure. Nine million, but only four or five guaranteed with incentives. Oh, I'm in. I'm in. You got me. He's missed 41 games.

was the last four seasons. Yeah, but as a... Including the entirety of the 2025 season. But if you are thinking like, Howie Roseman, where can I get some surplus value? Where can I get some actual high upside? I feel like he's going to love the idea of Elijah Vera Tucker. Yeah, and he's got, he's got positional versatility.

He can play on both sides. Joe Douglas draft pick. I'm in. I thought you were going to have his market a lot higher. Like, I think that there's a chance he gets an opportunity to start and gets paid like starter money. Yeah.

But for that number, oh yeah, I think he's a shoe one for the next round. Yeah, I don't know what to make of his market. And even though, that's fine.

Yeah, that's fair. I think there are some people who have them in their top 30 and there's some people who have to get down. No, I'm not,

I'm not questioning the number you have there. I'm not, I'm thinking of that that. I think it's representative of the fact that you did a lot of work to kind of gauge these. So no, I,

if that is his market, I think he would make sense for the Eagles. I would even be, you know. He checks all the boxes. If you're Howie and let's just pretend that you are thinking you have like $16 million to spend on offense, I think I would probably rather spend more than half of that on Elijah Vera Tucker

and then cherry pick at the bottom of the tight end market than, you know, spend it on Kate Otton. I don't know. We keep throwing Kate Otten under the bus. Yeah. But like, yeah, he really has become like the punching back and then just and then just, you know, check a box at offensive line. Yeah, no. To me, if Elijah Vera Tucker's market is not aggressive, he's going to be 27 next year. He's a former first round pick drafted by Joe Douglas.

Yes. Like all of those things are Eagles signing things. You know, like, like again, I won't show you guys the spreadsheet because it will be bad podcasting on my part. But like the first thing I look at with a lot of these guys is do they know somebody in the building and were they high draft picks? And I know that sounds reductive, but when you look at the Eagles best free agency signings and really what they like to do in free agency, it really starts with those two questions. So for that reason, I think Elijah Vera Tucker would make sense for them if, again, it's not like an aggressive market for him to get a starting opportunity elsewhere. Yeah, it strikes me as a very heavy move. Yeah, he'd be the sixth offensive lineman and you'd feel really good about that.

And also it's worth mentioning, like, because... He could steal Talastine's job, too, in the same way that McGi Bechtend did. Exactly. And it's worth mentioning, like, the Eagles went into last season in a... It was rare that they didn't have that player on the roster. They had to go trade for Fred Johnson. I don't think they're going to make the same mistake two years in a row.

I think that's right. So Elijah Verit Tucker moves on over Jalen Naylor. We now close out... Oh, no, this is not quite the last matchup of this region. This is now a matchup of... X-N-N-Ride receivers. Debo Samuel against Kendrick Bourne.

Debo? Yeah. Will be 30 years old. I'll be curious to see what the chat says about this one. Make sure you're voting. Now, his yak has been really steadily decreasing and fell off a cliff last year. That's like the player he is too, you know?

With the commanders. I have here 112 with 8 guaranteed. Yeah. Now you can talk about the scheme fit. would certainly make some sense. And then, of course, you see you on the graphic there. You got to talk about the yams.

See, as a sicko, I know. This is a longstanding joke. Ooh, baby. Okay. Feel like that security guard watching Devante Smith. That was a great callback. Meanwhile, Boren, 31 years old.

Got him at 1, 6 here. You know, four or five guaranteed. Now, what's interesting is, I mean, I'm not making the case that they need to go out and sign Kendrick Boren. But, I mean, it is worth saying he is more productive and was more productive last season than Jalen Naylor or some of these other, you know, coming off their rookie contract wide receivers who seem like they have a little bit higher of a market. I think you could spend money worse than on Kendrick Boren. Sure.

I don't know what purpose he serves for this offensive. AJ's still here. Yeah, stylistically, I wasn't sure about his fit, but I did write down. He's kind of just like your professional receiver. He has problems with drops. Yeah, I saw his drop rate was a little bit higher. But I do think if you're just looking for someone

that you feel like can give you like league average, you know, replacement level production, I think he does make sense in that vein. I think I'd put him above Debo. You would? Where does the chat way in? Do we have a poll on Kendrick Bourne versus DeVey? Debo Sam.

I feel like people are not. Kendrick Bourne, 93%. Yeah. 93% on Kendrick Bourne. I understand if you're looking at it in a vacuum. Like they are both, they're different profiles and you could have a preference one way or the other. But when you're thinking about the personalities at play,

I mean, like what would Aaron Morehead be voting for, do you think? I guess maybe he would vote for Debo. Get me the guy with the upside, but I don't know. I think that's a lot of personalities. Even if you trade it, AJ,

it's like, we're just going to bring in another guy who has, had issues in the past. I'm happy to throw the chat of bone. Yeah, I think Kendrick-Born. I think he's intriguing as a player. Again, it's stylistically, it's a little bit, it's against what we've talked about,

which is that I think that number three receiver, especially if AJ is still with the Eagles, you want a field stretcher, not like a physical possession type. All right, congratulations to Kendrick-Borne. And now we move on to what is the final matchup of what I'm calling the James Casey region here. and that is someone with the easiest link to the new offensive coordinator,

Sean Mannion, and that is Romeo Dobbs, a 26-year-old wide receiver who figures to get a pretty handsome contract. We're projecting here, 461 with 30 guaranteed. That might be light. Can win on the outside. And obviously plays with that fun helmet. And he's going up against none other. Then the great.

Oh. Oh, no. I didn't realize these two were pitted up against each other. Coyote, Awashika. Well, you know, what Jim Beheim would say. The market. 11 starts the last four years as Detroit's top backup. Mostly a guard, but can play tackle in a pinch.

We love coyote. I got a beef with the selection committee, Jim Beehim style here. This one's too hard for the first round. It's two big. These are two juggernauts. These are two guys who I thought would have made it to the final four, and I'm watching them in the first round instead. I mean, listen, nobody in the world loves Coyote-Awasheka more than I do.

But I feel like in a non-Jeffstoutland world, I don't know that this is necessarily the right. I liked him. I like Romeo Dobbs a lot, though. I like Romeo Dobbs as a Sean Mannion fit. I like him as a scheme fit. I like him just as a player. You know, he's got a fun profile of being like a bigger,

physical wide receiver who still has juice after the catch, still athletic, you know, it has like movement skills you wouldn't necessarily expect at that size. So I think Romeo Dobbs, if they were going to... You see any role in which you make sense with AJ Brown still on the team? Yeah, it's tough. It's tougher to make that fit because I think what you talked about earlier is probably what you're doing there. You're not spending big at tight end.

You're not, you're building it really around being like an 11 personnel team with two physical receivers that can kind of punish teams if they do match up with nickel to your 11 personnel, which is fun. I don't think it makes you multiple in a way where, yeah, against a team that doesn't respond, you know, the way that you want, you can't get into heavy personnel packages

and try and beat them up quite as easily. But I think for Romeo Dobbs, like, I mean, that's the best receiving tree in the NFL. So there's your argument right there. So yeah, no, I think if they're going to spend it receiver, Romeo Dobbs is who I would spend it on. It's who you would spend it on.

I would, yeah, who I would pursue aggressively and spend big on. If that's, if they want to make, let's say that they resign Jalen Phillips and they still somehow have money for Romeo Dobbs in the scenario. Yeah, let's just give them extra money. Well, it's like if they resign Jalen Phillips and then it's like, we're not playing the compic game, we're going to go and make a splash and free agency. Romeo Dobbs is a player, I think would make sense at receiver. I think it's pretty unlikely that that's where they, if they have a big spend, that's

where it's going to be? Sure. Yeah. That's why I'm couching it with if they spend at receiver. Yeah. Yeah. but he's a fun player man if you want to if you want to push him ahead of coyote i'm i'm okay with that would you have gone coyote i think i think i probably only because i don't think they're

going to spend on a that high on a wide receiver but i don't i don't feel super strong no that's fair yeah the other the chat can be the tiebreaker they're they're going to abs the thing that i forgot to bring up at the top of the show is that at any point in here you are allowed to insert Mackay backton. I already have that into the conversation. Yeah. Okay. After he was reportedly informed that he's going to be released today.

So at any point here, a twosome can turn into a threster. With Mikey back. All right. We're moving on Romeo Dobbs. Congratulations to Romeo Dobbs. Sorry to Coyote. First half of the offense bracket. Time to go to break with more on the other side.

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that we're talking about today, 27 years old. We are projecting him at 345, 30 guaranteed, which might be light. Yeah. He might get more than that. Not a big play threat, but probably of all the tight ends on the market, this is the most proven starting two-way player.

Yep. 60 catches, 600 yards, and 850 plus snaps each of the last two years. Just a professional, you know, top third. of the league type tight end. Hmm. You know, yeah, right? Top third of the league? I feel like you're locking in the middle third.

Top of the middle third. Top third of the league tight end. I mean, I mean, that means he's borderline top 10. Yeah, I think that probably is where he is. I think he's 13th, 12th. Okay. Yeah, he's just outside the top 10, I feel like. Just in terms of production.

And we should say, cohabitation matrix, you know, Josh Grizard would probably be able to give the Eagles a lot of good intent. on K. Dotten and how how to best utilize him and how to get the best out of him. But again, I think if you're, to me,

the thing is he's a little bit younger than Dallas Goddard, but realistically, like if you're in this market for tight ends, why wouldn't you just keep Dallas Goddard? I think I agree with you. Especially, I wouldn't want to sign K. Dotten to a three-year deal. And I think that's probably what he's looking for. I'd rather sign,

I'd rather sign somebody with more theoretical upside at a lower cost. Hmm. Where did you come from? Where did you come from K.9jo? That was pretty good, actually. When did you come up with that? The day that I realized he was a draft prospect.

I mean... Wait, have you done this before? Have I missed it? I don't know if I've done that before, but I've certainly... I guess that's sick of the card before. He's going up against Diami Brown, and you're talking about a rebound,

by low, wide receiver. Diami Brown basically did nothing over the course of his rookie contract with the commanders and then had that breakout playoff run with the commanders last off season. You turned that into a solid contract one year with the Jags and then sort of went Kermplunk after that and lost an opportunity after playing the first half of the season.

You're talking about like maybe a league minimum, you know, one and a half million guarantee here. Yeah. Just as a guy to add on the outside. What do you think of? Actually, I'm struggling with this more than I'm. probably should because I think Diami Brown is probably more realistic in the sense that he's got draft pedigree and he will be cheap.

You know, it's like a dart throw. K dot and like, yeah, I think I'm going to Miami Brown here. I don't see enough. This is where you want to insert Mackay Beckton into the conversation. No, I was going to use, I was going to go like for like with an offensive lineman. Okay. Yeah, not. I was asking.

It is interesting. But no, I'm going to save it. I know where he's, I know where Mackay's going to fit. Okay. Diombe Brown moves on. I like that. I think somebody else is going to throw real money at K.aten that the eagles are not going to value. Right.

I think Diomi Brown has a chance. I got to practice saying his name. I feel like I thought it was Diami. Diami or Diami? Let's see. Dianu. Oh, they don't have a pronunciation on a... No, it is.

It's Diami. You're right. Diami. There you go. All right. Moving on. Next tight end. Diamiami.

I mean, you'll never see Lindsay's face, you people out there, you sick people. But if you could just have seen the smile on Lindsay's face, as she dropped that in, you too would have had your day made. All right. Now we got a couple of real names. This is a real name off, okay? A name off. It's a name off.

David and Joku, these are some normies. A lot of this episode you can take to people, will be like, oh, this is, they're talking about guys you haven't even heard of. This one. That's what you come for. You got to learn about the this is, this is for the normies. David and Joku against Russell Wilson. So David and Joku is going to be, this is a name of.

David and Joku is going to be 30 years old. Only had 33 for 293 last year. Yeah, Harold Fandon took over. Yeah. Harold Fandon took over. Also bad quarterbacks there. This is an interesting one for. this is another little nugget I found. Do you know that it has been 30 years, E.J. Since the Eagles last had a player from the U

score a touchdown for them. Really? And there've only been very few. There's only been two guys, essentially. Chris T. Jones was the last one who did it. Okay. I would have never got that. And there was one other guy in the early 90s who had a couple.

I forget the name is escaping me. But that's basically it. And he's going up against Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson who if he comes to the Eagles I don't know if you're ever going to stop making the Russell Wilson Jailen Hertz comparison it's going to be a lot for the rest of us to take I won't make it I just wanted the record to be shown

that I did make it and got no sold on the show I think this one's pretty straightforward David and Joku should go through to the next round I'd be surprised if they signed Russell Wilson as their backup quarterback It does it's not the right scheme fit Yep and Joku we have here at I have at a 11 with like seven and a half guaranteed. You think that's light?

Would you, if you're going to, if that's basically what Dallas Goddard's getting paid, would you rather pay Dallas Goddard or David and Joku? If that's what Dallas Goddard is getting paid, I think they re-signed Dallas Goddard on that deal. I think in a world where Dallas Goddard gets paid on a multi-year deal somewhere else, David and Joku would be intriguing.

He like, he's not, I don't think he's actually like a plus in the run game, but he has the physical traits to be. Stay tuned for much more. Yeah. and quacket time I thought you were gonna like land what I was saying

but instead you just instead I didn't yeah it's all good it's all good then I crash yeah he's not as much of a plus in the run game as you would expect for his physical profile

but I mean at the very least like I can't discount David and Joku because he is my type of player again he is like a big physical I wrote I wrote athletic freak in my in my He's got the draft pedigree even though he's older. I think one of the notes there is whatever money they spend on David and Joku will be offset by the savings from having to buy him shirts.

We're not having to buy him shirts. We are so on the same page. I was going to say this to you as well. Like looking for his pictures. I was like, this guy never wears a shirt. Literally, I've never seen more pictures on the website than like. I was going to say, never in the uniform. I was going to do the thing that like everybody does like, oh, if I would say I wouldn't wear a shirt either, but I probably would.

Like, what about my personality? would suggest that I'd be walking around with the midriff all the time. Although I don't know. I feel like, yeah, if you, if you grew up as you did and just happened to have that body, I agree with you.

But like, if either of us just woke up tomorrow morning. Looking like that. And were David and had David and Joku's body, I probably would not wear a shirt. But you know what? Let me ask you this. If Charlie Kolar walked around

with a midrift all the time, are we sure you wouldn't look like David and Joku? Yes. I'm not so sure. You got to calm down. not so sure. What about like Isaiah like just because he's the man of your dreams. Does it mean he's the man I need?

What about like Isaiah likely? If Isaiah likely walked around with the midriff would we would we feel like oh he's a freak he's an athletic marvel? I'm not saying it that he's an athletic marvel. I'm just saying he's always walking around without a shirt on. But I said it and now I have to look internally and wonder like if this guy wasn't always walking around with his shirt, you know, rolled up. But I think he's what I still think because you know you can do a little bit of a myth-making with that, I feel like. You know what I mean?

Like, Seekwon doesn't do that. If Sequin did, well, I guess Sequin's a bad example. Who is like, who is an athlete that if they rolled up the shirt, who would they, who would, like the narrative would shift for them? Willie Lampkin. I don't know about that one. Tanner McKee. Tanner McKee.

Next up, David Joku takes out Russell Wilson. Next up. Another tight end. Daniel Bellinger, formerly of the New York Giants, 25 years old, coming off his rookie contract. Danny Bells, at least eight starts all four seasons, but never more than 300 receiving yards. This is someone who is not going to be any kind of impact in the passing game,

but gives you a little bit of blocking competence. I think I probably went a little rich on the guarantees here, 15 million guaranteed for a three-year, $22 million deal. but that is like guys have there are tight ends who are getting paid like seven eight million dollars as Fran has has discussed and he would be someone who maybe if you're signing him you're pairing with a true wide receiver three and he's going up against the player who the day they eagle signed Sean Mannion Fran texted us oh yeah and said this guy needs to be involved in quacketology

and that is Brandon Cooks Brandon Cooks who played at Oregon State with Sean Mannion problem is he's in Philadelphia he's never going to know if Malcolm Jenkins is lurking around the corner it's going to be scared looking over his shoulder I like that's a good callback Brandon Cook is the answer here

this one can be a quick one easy one okay right he also Brandon Cooks overlapped with Sean Manion in Los Angeles with the Rams okay they're probably besties if we ever hear from Sean Manion we can ask him I will, I do, as I put in here, though, I bet they did, I bet they play a beer pong together.

We'll ask him. One day. All right, Brandon Cooks moves on. Congratulations to Brandon Cooks. Next up, a wide receiver on wide receiver matchup. Calvin Austin, the third, against Marquise Brown. So two speedsters. Calvin Austin, they list him at 5'9.

He's really, I think he weighed in it, or he measured it like 5, 7 and a half. Man. He's small, but he can fly. we've got 333 here with 20 guaranteed sound like he could go to a worst passing offense I think you would look at him I mean like Premium Quez Watkins

I was gonna say like premium Britain Covey But he doesn't have the return juice right I think he's got a little bit of return juice But yeah And he goes up against Hollywood Brown Who actually was a little bit more productive last season than I had thought.

Yeah, very quiet, 587 receiving yards this year, but a surprisingly low A-DOT. And I also put in here, Marquis Brown is a reminder of, we've talked about the quandary the Eagles have this year at 23. Tackle, you got to take a tackle versus wide receiver. And that was our decision, Andre Diller versus Hollywood Brown. Yeah. Turned out neither one was like a great answer,

but Hollywood Brown would have been better. Yeah. I lean Marquis Brown. I always screw this up. Was Marquise Brown the receiver that played with Jalen Hertz at Oklahoma? Or was it CD Lamb? C.D. Lamb. I always screw that up.

I don't know why the two are like conflated in my head. It doesn't make any sense. It's one of my worst blind spots that I just aired out on the podcast. We should all be so lucky. And one of your worst blind spots, that's a pretty good worst. But like when I say it, there's always somebody that's going to be like, what the hell is that guy talking about? Fine.

Yeah. And I am a Texas Longhorns fan. I should know Oklahoma's, you know, lower. I'd still go Hollywood Brown here, though. Is there not going to spend for Gavin Austin? Yeah, and I think there's an argument for Hollywood Brown as just a field stretcher. Wow. Oh, very quickly, I'm going to say.

The votes were slow to come in there, but Hollywood Brown. And by the way, hit the like button. For Lindsay. She's been working hard today. She's been, yeah. There's steam coming off the computer. She's even still got the mic down because she doesn't have, she doesn't have, she doesn't got time to flip it up.

And so show some goddamn respect. You know, although I listened to the show yesterday. You guys are like, you're like, you're like, you're like abrading people to hit the like button. I, my approach is usually, guys, it really helps us out if you hit the like button. You know, I would have really, we'd really appreciate it. And my approach is I do not respect you unless you hit the like button. And even then I might not.

Okay. Different approaches. All right. Now. That's why Baskin Robbins. That's 33 flavors. Time to talk about your jilted X. Shiga Conco showed up to quackatology today. Feeling good.

Feeling good. Thinking I know I got my boo on my side. And he has been absolutely sideswiped by this Charlie Kohler situation. He's dealing with a broken heart to say nothing of everything else. but he does enter for agency as a 25-year-old with experience as a starter some big playability can do a little blocking in a pinch

he's going up against Braxton Jones who is an interesting player here from the Chicago Bears can start at right and left tackle not a great player but can play both sides lost his job struggled with some injuries the past couple seasons I think you're going to

I mean, you will like his traits, right? He does have those big long arms. Yeah, I was at, so where did he play right tackle? Because I, do you only play left? I think he's only left tackle. So. I thought he played out the right, on the right side as well. I think he maybe practiced there before.

I hadn't seen any experience on the right. But I actually was going to put Mackay Bechton in for him. How many do we have left? Can I shoehorn Mackay Bechton in a little bit later? There are three matchups after this. All right, I'll shoehorn him in later. Chigo Conquo makes it through easily here. just because I like Charlie Kohler so much

doesn't mean that Chico Cancchio can't be a Final Four type player for us. I think he... Jay has never missed a game in his NFL career. Yeah. Is nice. He's fun, man. He is fun to watch.

He's both a vertical threat and he also is really dynamic with the ball in his hands. Like he's got great contact balance. He's just an explosive player. I think he is like, he's at least average as a run blocker. I don't think he's like going to, you know, tear up trees as a run blocker,

but I think he's fine. I think if you signed him and you drafted like, you know, Nate Borkature as the name drop that friend, just going through friends, like lists of dirty work tight ends, you can, you could really rebuild the room around Chig O'Conquo and feel good about it. I'm still in on him. I think when I did a, there will be something coming out on our channel probably the next couple days. I think Chig O'Conco is still my number one.

So I like Charlie Kohler a lot. that's who you like. Do you think the eagles will be interested? I think they will. I mean, he's been somebody who's been linked to them before on the trade market. Yeah, I think he doesn't have like the cohabitation stuff. But no, I think that he is like a player that you think the second chapter is going to be better than the first score. He has to be the third chapter for him.

Okay. I think somebody might be interested in having Braxton Jones actually compete to start. So I'm happy to go to go Conquo for this round. Next up. Rashid Shaheed. the Speedster from the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks going up against Greg Dulcich, an interesting contender here.

Greg Dulcich, the tight end. Most recently with the Miami Dolphins, did you do any work on Greg Dulcich? Just a very, I mean, I know he's a former third round pick. Decent 2025, but mostly underwhelming career is what I have written down. Very underwhelming career. Yeah. Basically, nothing.

until the second half of this past season, after he was picked up by the dolphins, waived by the giants. And then you put a little something, something together. I was watching some Greg Dulcich. Oh, so you're in on Greg Dawson? I have a little bit in on Greg Dulcich. Now, Camp lock.

I mean, he tries. Yeah. There's some effort there. This is not someone who you can squint and say is like you're starting tied down. And this is someone you are adding maybe to Caddy, someone who was a better blocker. Yeah.

But he looks like the player that he was supposed to be as a prospect. There's some dynamism in the open field. He's a, you know, there's a, he had a bad fumble

where it's just a very soft fumble. But what is, what is interesting to me is that this is a player who never lived up to the hype until he found a home in this offensive system. Yeah.

Right? He played for Sean Payton, a different kind of system. Played for Brian Dable, different kind of system. then he gets into, you know, it's not to say that Mike McDaniel is Sean Mannion, but it's something similar. And I feel like he could be a good,

I don't think he's going to get paid more than $3 million. Yeah. A good piece to pair with somebody. I kind of like the idea of add Greg Dalsuch to the back end of your tight end room. You talk to me into it. I'm in. I mean, they're also not signing Rashid Shaheed. Yeah, that's, I was, when I saw Rashid Shahid,

I was like, all right, this is where Mackay Beckton comes in. but no let's go dulcitch Dolcich Dolcich Dolcich Doug Schich right Dulcich moves on two matchups left

oh man Christian Kirk not Kirk not Kirk cousins although that some people that is how they describe him Christian Kirk Gerard Johnson connection

yeah had a big playoffs but an underwhelming regular season he goes up against Jonah Williams which is an interesting one a similar

profile to Elijah Verit Tucker that you talked about before. First round pedigree has played well-ish when healthy, but has struggled with injuries. But unlike Verit Tucker, not a lot of versatility here. I mean, he's only played a right tackle. Jonah Williams against Christian Kirk, how do you find? I like Jonah Williams.

He's played both tackle spots. So he is a swing tackle. I think he could be like a Fred Johnson replacement. 74 starts over five years. he has a draft pedigree, former first round pick, and cross paths very briefly with Jamal Singleton with the Cincinnati Bengals. Oh, look at you.

Good five. There's enough, you know, you'll be proud of me. Look at this. Color coordinated notes. That's pretty good. The good stuff and the bad stuff. The draft guide, man, watch, looking at the draft guide's got me thinking about how I could really step up

my note taking. I want to put Jonah away. Me and shoulder injuries the past two seasons. Yeah, go ahead. But as a swing tackle, you probably feel okay about him being able to. to, you know, come into a relief, relief stint at either tackle spot. So I'll push them through to the next round.

I kind of like the idea of Jonah Williams is like your draft proofing your Lane Johnson replacement. He's the Matt Hennessy of this year. This year's free. You keep bringing up Matt Hennessy. That's not, Matt Hennessey didn't even make the process of Matt Hennessey rather than the result, let's say. I think you're using the wrong person. Who would be a better example on the offensive line? I don't know, but yeah, not Matt Hennessey.

I could definitely see Jonah Williams Now we have a problem Well here we go Time to get to the very last match Yeah we have a problem Mike Evans Our number two seed

Based on total projected guarantees Mike Evans There's the Josh Grizzard Of it all 35 million guarantee We're looking out here Two for 51 Obviously this would only be

In a post AJ Brown roster for the Eagles. Not going to be cheap. As you see, they're coming off. Year 12 was finally the first time that he didn't top a thousand yards receiving. And he's going up against another Tampa Bay Buccaneer. Someone, Fran and I discussed yesterday.

We have a problem. Co-keefed the tight end, who is not really a tight end. He is a tackle. But he does play tight end. Zero targets the last two seasons. He's coming off a season ending injury. But he is a

minimum salary, this guy is going to be our blocking tight end and make a difference as a blocker. We have a problem. I don't think we have a problem. Okay. All right. I mean, I like to co-keefed. I thought it was kind of fun.

You know that's my type of player. Okay. But we have to add Mackay Beckton into the mix, the play-in game to get into the first round. Throw him in. I think Mackay-Becton probably wins here, though. Oh, I disagree. Really? Why would the Eagles sign McKay-Becton?

So you're saying your argument is going to be they don't have Jeff Soutland anymore and therefore cannot count on that level of play for Mackay Bechton. Yeah. My question is, does Mackay Bechtin have an opportunity to start anywhere else? Do you think he gets a starting opportunity on a different team and free agency? It's always tricky with the offensive line guys. I think as has been the case since last offseason, Mackay Beckton is much more interested in being in Philadelphia than the Eagles are having in, than the Eagles are in having Macailles. Beckton on the team. That's fair. But at a lower, I mean, he actually got signed for real money last

year. I'm not sure if that's going to be the case this year. And at some point, he is a upgrade to the depth of your interior offensive line. I don't think the Eagles love Mackay Beckton. Yeah, I think that's fair. I hear what you're coming from. But you're going to go co-keefed over McKay Beckton. This actually set up kind of nicely. Now you think Mike Evans no chance in a post-J. Brown world. Yeah, it seems like he's probably going to get more than, what did you project him out? I apologize. 251.

Yeah, I don't think the Eagles are in that market for a receiver. Even in a post-A.J. Brown world. I think in a post-A.J. Brown world, you were drafting a receiver high, not signing Mike Evans. I'm leaving it up to you. Co-keft. Co-kept,

go-keft, co-keft, co-keft. Chief Kieft. As Radfrak says. I like it. Baker Mayfield called him the tone center for the entire team. Really? Yeah.

Yeah, I read an article because what was the season-ending injury? I should know that instead of the Baker-Mafel quote. Yeah, he had the season-ending injury. Apparently, like, the entire team was devastated because he is so the soul of the team. Mm. All right, so there you have it. Grzard's going to push for him. That means that on Friday, now tomorrow we're going to do the same exercise for the defensive side of the ball.

We'll get through the first round with those guys, and then they're all going to come together on Friday to declare a winner. That means on Friday, these are the matchups that you'll see on the offensive side of the ball in the second round. Isaiah likely against Adam Troutman. Charlie Kohler against Zach Ertz, tight ends heavy. Jimmy Garoppolo against Elijah Verit Tucker. Kendrick Bourne against Romeo Dobbs. Diami Brown against David and Joku.

Brandon Cooks against Marquis Hollywood Brown. Jago Conquo against Greg Dulcich and Jonah Williams against Kokeef. What a ride. Man, this is fun. This has been one of like the things that I used to enjoy as a sicko that I now get to be a part of. It's fun. I enjoyed it.

All right. Well, let us know if there are any decisions you disagree with. but mostly let us know who you think has a chance to go all the way as we continue on tomorrow Fran will join us for the defensive side of the ball thank you to Lindsay for getting all the graphics that looked great

we will see you tomorrow at 2 o'clock also Brandon Graham unblocked live at 11 o'clock tomorrow morning so don't miss that you got something to say oh you're just getting ready to hit the button thank you Lindsay thank you EJ up the villa Thank you, Kate Otten for letting us have some fun on your behalf.

We'll talk to you tomorrow. You didn't let us. And as always, we love you.