PHLY Philadelphia Eagles Podcast - Is this the week A.J. Brown BREAKS OUT for the Eagles? | PHLY Eagles Podcast

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

A.J. Brown has only 35 receiving yards through the first two games of the season despite Jalen Hurts and the Eagles getting out to a 2-0 start. Is that sustainable? And how long will Brown and DeVonta Smith willingly accept their secondary status in the offense? EJ Smith has thoughts on Brown’s locker room availability and Deniz Selman brings his researched wisdom on a variety of topics we’ll try to understand. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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The Y. Eagles podcast on a beautiful Foll X. Fennity Studio. It is the P.H.O.Y. Eagles podcast. It's a Friday. That means we've got the professor. here. Danis Selman joining us. E.J. Smith on the other side. I'm Bo Wolf and we got to start, by the way, thanking our producers, Bed 365 and Ashley, thank you for presenting this episode. And starting from the jump, a huge super chat from Gerald Glickman, G. Squared. Wow. Who says,

Thank you for what you do. You're welcome. Hoping to get a birthday shout out to Bruce Glickman, loyal listener of the show turning the big 1-1 today happy birthday Bruce let's get a Bruce Did you like that synchronization? Yeah

synchronization, nice word Yeah Happy birthday Bruce Shout out to Bruce We hit it better in rehearsal But you know that was How are you doing professor? I'm doing well

I'm excited You know Excited for the show I don't know if I'm doing like I'll leave the homage I'll leave the homage DJ Yeah I'm doing well.

Yeah, it worked that well for you yesterday. We did a 90-minute show yesterday and did about eight minutes on this matchup. Yeah. You've got plenty of meat left on the bone. Those Thursday shows, other than, you know, I'm annotating swuper, obviously. But other than that, my biggest concern is that Fran's going to, you know, like, talk about everything and not leave anything for me. So I was very happy that Fran spent his entire week preparing for his opening argument for the trial instead.

MVP yesterday, just a dynamic performance. It was fantastic. He hit justice. It was really, I felt like the highlight of that. It was an all-timer. Anyone who missed that should go back and watch the just incredible performances by everybody. Yeah. Great job, my friend.

And yet, unfortunately, I did win the case. So good job. You won the case. You actually, I mean, you position yourself perfectly by being the worst defense attorney ever. Being very, I won. It's good. The defense. is going to look how I wanted to look.

I texted the honorable judge to compliment his professionality throughout the shenanigans. And I'm not sure that your defense was what won it for E.J. Based on that. But, you know, who knows? He might have been influenced

in a way that he didn't realize. I love, there are, like, a lot of things I love watching that back. Like, one of my favorites is, like, when Sean is trying to keep in, like, the whole character. you just see him breaking. Like, he just couldn't keep it in. And my reaction when I see Sean on the screen is really good.

Yeah, but you were sort of talking over when Julia goes all rise for the honorable. Well, you guys left me here. I was improvising at that point. You can't nitpick that. All right. France and I was the real MVP, by the way. Yeah, important for you to say that. I mean, I just feel like to be fair.

You know, I was a good sport about it. My favorite thing about this is how upset Fran still is about this and how he's just going to be plotting his revenge for the next 18, 19 weeks or so of Swoover. They're shaking up. All right. Let's get into it. Let's go to the big takeaway presented by our friends at Xfinity. And I do want to start here, E.J., you were in the locker room yesterday. And you were talking to A.J. Brown.

And we all know that it has been a slow start to the season for A.J. Brown. So it is by the numbers, his worst back-to-back production game as a receiver with the Eagles in the regular season. The only one that would be worse was that two-game stretch in the playoffs, if you want to flash that up. Brenna, we've got the worst of his career here. You got the two playoff games from last year, but obviously those are a little bit different. There it is, 35 yards combined receiving over the last two weeks.

And it's got to be a little bit exhausting for him, for everybody to always be coming to him. and say, like, how are you doing? The team is winning. You're not getting the ball. All of that stuff. And yet, you know, you texted me. It did feel like yesterday was maybe a little bit further down the line of him just kind of being beaten down.

Yeah. You know, I don't want to attribute too extreme of a feeling for him. You know, obviously he can really speak to how he feels. But it was a little bit of a detached news conference, I would say, or media scrum, where he kind of was, he's been measured all season. I think that you can sense the like the apprehension to really say very much at all. You know, he will sometimes hit hit reporters with a no comment or, you know, a two-word answer.

I don't. I don't know. You know, there are instances like that. And I do think that even the comments that he did make, I found interesting, you know, he was asked about Emmanuel Forbes and the matchup and, you know, what he thinks about the matchup. And he said, Emmanuel Forbes, and I mean this in a positive way, he is the last of my worries at this moment.

I'm just trying to focus on my job and get this thing going on offense. it's not just about the person I'm going against. So, you know, I think that there were a lot of answers like that from him. You know, a lot of, you know, what needs to be, what needs to happen in the passing game, he talked about being on the same page. He used the word synchronization, which is something we heard from Jalen Hertz four times in a 13-minute press conference the day before. When AJ was asked if that word has been a big word for them this week, he said no comment.

So I don't know. I think, again, he also said that he doesn't want to give anybody a story late in the week. So I think he is being very measured, but I do think you can sense something. I would imagine frustration. But again, I don't want to take any leaps because he has been careful and I want to like make space for him being careful to not take that step if that makes sense. It's hard. Nobody wants to speak for him. Yeah.

And it's all sort of projection at this point for all the reasons we've talked about, for all. while. It's got to be very difficult. He wanted to put a, you know, he said in the summer, he wants to put a stamp on being the best receiver in the NFL this year. And he's, you know, got 35 yards, whatever it is through two weeks. And he has not been a real focal point of the offense. You know, it's also got to be very difficult for him emotionally, knowing that like, he's coming in and these are always going to be the questions. He talked in Tennessee about some mental health struggles. I, you know, those things don't go away. I'm sure that that's part of it. I don't think that this is sustainable.

Do you? I do not. I feel like that is the one thing. I said this on Anthony's show this morning. The outcome of this game won't change what I think about the Eagles very much. Like, I think they are a talented team that can make a deep run in the postseason, even if they struggle in this game, especially in the passing game. The thing that I do have my antenna up for is how the wide receiving core,

AJ and Devante in particular, whether, any potential growing pains at this offense is going to have to go through. Like, you know, Jalen Hertz, we've seen Jalen Hertz take off the straight jacket before. We've seen what the passing game can look like in high leverage moments later in the season. So I think they were in the benefit of the doubt that they'll be able to figure that out. What I do wonder is how that looks. It started early this season. You know, you think about that, I guess the last third of last year's regular season,

the woes that the passing game went through and sort of age. Jay Brown's reaction to it and the ripples it sent through the locker room. That's the thing that I'll be watching for if the Eagles struggle in the next couple weeks in the passing game. What would you like to add here? Yeah, I mean, it's such a hard thing to talk about when the team is winning like this. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like an insane thing that, like, I think everyone kind of knows in the back of their

mind that we might be forgetting is the last time the Eagles lost a game with Jalen Hertz and A.J. Brown playing the whole game was the Jonathan Gannon with Matt Patricia is the defensive coordinator at the end of 2023. And they haven't lost a single game with Jalen and AJ playing the game since then. And that's, that makes it so hard for the discussion to like ever not get aborted with, but they're winning. Right. Like, but we're winning. So, you know, okay, but we're winning. Right. Now, you know, we have Sequin. So, you know, all that. But look, there are four great wide receivers in this game, right, that we're going to preview with the Rams. And,

if you look at like how often the Rams use their two guys. Yeah. And how often the Eagles use there to? I don't know if we have that graphic. The wide receivers graphic that they know's made. But like it is like comical how like A.J. Brown and DeMonte Smith are being targeted like, you know, four times a game each. And the and the and the and they're all kind of like, AJ Browns especially are all like really kind of short passes. And then DeVante Adams and Pukunakua.

And they only have one football, right? Like, I mean, they were talking. what's his name which nepotism guy Mike Lafleur sorry all their coaches are like somebody's son or brother so I had to look it up Mike Lafleur was talking about how he'd love to have two footballs on the field because he's got these like great receivers

and they're still able to throw it to each of them ten times a game right? And it's not like they've been in like they were pretty run heavy in parts of those games have you done the thought exercise of what it would look like with two footballs it would be very interesting I mean, like, you might have to play some two buster to stop. I don't, like, without two buster. You know what I meant to ask Fran the other day on that, on that busted touch in at the end,

if it could have been two buster? I actually was thinking exactly that as well. I now, I watched Sean Syed's video on it. I'm pretty convinced that is a blitz by Adori Jackson. Yeah. It would be the second corner blitz that Fangio has thrown since he's been the defensive coordinator here, the first one being the drive before with Adori Jackson on the same coverage. And based on the way the safeties were aligned and everything,

it did look like it was three cloud. But we're still waiting for that first two buster wrap. Yeah. Yeah. Just a really quick point. I think it's an excellent point that it's hard to talk about this when the Eagles are 2 and 0. I think it's especially hard for A.J. Brown and Devante Smith to talk about it when they're 2 and 0.

It's not just 2 and 0. It's like all of last year it was the same thing. Yeah, the nature of the results makes it, I think, more difficult for him. And I think if they were losing, I think he would, I think that he'd have a much different tenor in these media availability. I don't really want to go here, but I do think we've got to ask the question. And I know this is like, it's so fanciful. But if this is the way that they're going to play, would you take a first and a second round pick for A.J. Brown?

I would not. To this point, though, I did find it interesting. I will read you the question that was presented to A.J. yesterday. It feels like whenever you don't get a lot of targets, nationally you become a story. Quote unquote, is AJ happy? Is he going to get traded? He couldn't possibly be happy in Philly. Do you have any reaction to that conversation that always seems to be around you? His reply was, I don't.

So again, I don't want to put any, I don't want to fan the flames. I don't think the Eagles want to trade AJ Brown. I don't think they should. I don't know if I would take a first. I think that he is good enough. I think he's worth more than that. But, yeah, I mean, you can't trade AJ Brown. Yeah.

You just can't. That's like, that's like, of course not. It's like Jerry Jones level buffoonery to trade one of your best players like that. You can't do that. I mean, I think I agree. I would like to use Andrew Brown. Yeah. I mean, that's, you do that before you consider trading a player like that.

He's the type of player that you don't trade in the league. Danez is right. Yeah. Yeah, we're doing the big picture thing right now. Unless you're like when we get into the issues with the passing game. And we talked about this last week. there's a difference between is the offense run heavy

and when we're passing it are we doing interesting things that get the receivers over? Exactly. And right now the answer is like yes the offense is run heavy and no we're not doing anything interesting at all to get the receivers open when we're when we're passing it. We're also not doing any play action

we're not running any RPO's. We're not doing like all these different things that we've done in the past few years that like well we haven't done any play action but like the RPO seem to have disappeared as well. I'm very curious I was very curious about that. How many zone looks they're getting? You'd think the R.comers are the answer? There were two RPO's in this last game.

I thought it was really interesting in the miced-up. Jalen Hertz is talking to the quarterback's coach, Leffler, and he says, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it because the linebackers are flowing with the run. Let's do it. And I looked up like, you know, I don't know, like how chronologically those things are edited. But I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Kylan Granson RPO.

Because that was on the very next drive, at least if the miced-up was done chronologically. and that's like, that makes so much sense. But why does it involve such a long, like, yeah, let's do it, let's do it. Like, why is it just part of the flow of the, of the, of the, of the, you know, of the play calls? They only ran, they only ran six last play. Why is it all Petulah? Yeah.

B minus. Yeah, literally no one is asking that. But, you know, wait until week eight or something when, when somehow. I think Batulow, I mean, like, the idea that, like, Patulow isn't the constant, like, Siriani and Jalen are the constants. I disagree with that. Patillo's been here the whole time. Well, let's get a super chat here from June K, who says, we say Siriani and Hertz are the common denominator,

but wasn't their offense dynamic and unpredictable when Stuyken was calling plays? They were fifth in rushing attempts, but AJ and Devante combined for 1,600 yards. They were not nearly as run heavy. They were sixth in the league and pass heaviness. They've been 31st, 32nd in the last two years. I think that's because of Sequin's ability to hit those big plays, and the fact that they think, like, eventually he's going to hit a big play.

Like, no one was thinking Miles Sanders was going to get those big play touchdowns or DeAndre Swift. And I think, like, part of it is, like, maybe we can win the explosive play battle with the run. While still protecting the ball, because we're going to turn it over less if we run it. I just don't agree with the idea that taking shots downfield is a risky play. Yeah, like, I agree. I agree. I totally. Routes.

Like, yes, middle of the field. Like, you're talking, like, crossers in tight windows or dig routes. like, yes, those are inherently risky throws. But like, yeah, go ball to AJ Brown and Tamponte's. willing to believe that Jalen's general aversion towards throwing over the middle of the field is because of turnover avoidance, because that's where you see the most balls get picked.

Turning or like jumped out routes, but balls downfield very rarely. Turning the double slants that AJ and Calcutera ran like five times in the last game, turning one of those into a sluggo, especially against Double at Zero, which the chiefs were throwing at them against those, is so low risk. It's like the probability of an energy.

is very low. And even if it gets intercepted, it's going to get intercepted 40 yards down the field. it's like a punt. Like, so like you're not losing a lot of, you know, like, like win probability by, by, by risking that. I really don't get that at all. And, you know, we talked about like different formations and different plays. Like, like they ran the same play out of the same formation with the same motion, like over and over again. Fran got into into some of them. He didn't have time to get into all of them.

I'm sure he saw them all. But like, like, there were so many different examples of this. Like, they ran two plays out of empty and they were exactly the same play. Like they ran two plays out of empty the entire game and they were exactly the same play. And both of them, Sequin goes like into motion into a bunch. And then they run exactly the same route combinations on both sides of the field. And it's the same route combinations they run anyway. And both times the chiefs checked into the same coverage.

Like, I mean, it's like they're checking into a coverage before the play because they can tell from the formation, the personnel grouping, the pre-snap motion, exactly what the play is going to be. How is that benefiting anybody? Like I don't buy the argument that that's Jalen. Like Jalen's like we have to do it exactly the same way every time. I just don't buy that. Like it's it's it's I that doesn't make sense to me. Because Jalen knows what the play is. Like it's not like he needs to be able to identify the play.

Like why are you giving away the play to the defense beforehand and making the coverage basically be able to fit it like a glove every time? I do feel like we've, I mean, Jalen has said it himself. The offense looks the way he wants it to look. And I think that there is an agency from him there. So I hear what you're saying. Yeah, but he also then he also said they took the straight jacket off. Yeah, well, to me, I don't think that these things, I think it's not binary in the sense of like,

it's either Jalen or it's the offensive coaches. I think it is fair to say that there's both there. But I do think that a lot of like the, the fact that the ego's offense has not looked different in the last few years, I do think that's a product of Jalen and his comfortability with certain things. And I get the results. But I think Dennis's point is also right that we. Within the predictability of the route concepts and where the ball is going, there can be much better dressing up of what is to come.

Yeah, no, that's a play calling thing. I completely, and that's where you want your offensive coordinator to find an advantage around the margins. If you have a quarterback that says maybe I don't like under center play action, I don't like certain types of motions, I don't like certain concepts that maybe they would like to implement. I do think then at that point as an offensive coordinator, you have to go, okay, well, how can I still, you know,

improve this offense and bring creativity to the table and not just make things so simplistic. So I think, yeah, it's, I think the big conclusion is that it is all parties. It's not as simple as saying it's this or that. The problem is when you look at the layers of the data and also the film, you don't really get to the, oh, but they're doing this sentence at any point. It's like, okay, they're predictable based on personnel grouping. They threw it out of heavy personnel twice the whole game and they were in the first two drives. They're predictable out of whether it's shotgun or not. If you count the screens as passes, because they are passes,

and if you take out the coward's draws, they were 89% pass from shotgun in this game. They were one out of 18 passing it from pistol and under center combined. And that was the first play of the game that they passed it. The next 17 times were all runs. So, okay, the defense knows whether you're going to run or pass it. There are no RPO's. There are only two RPO's.

There's very little play action in general. Those two passes out of heavy personnel were both seven-man protection play action plays. Neither one worked. I mean, we know the reasons we talked about it at length. But the, Grant Calcutta being the main one. But the lack of RPAs, the lack of the quarterback run game, I mean, like, where is that gone? There's no variety in the run game either. And Maelada said, well, with the blitzes, my lot was on his radio show this week.

And he said they were blitzing us every play. And so we kind of went to our safety plays there in the run. run game, how are we supposed to know they were going to blitz us at the highest rates spags ever has? So we had to go to our safety plays in the run game. And the safety plays in the run game typically are those, like those pistol outside zone runs that they were doing. There's an under center outside zone run that they hit like four or five times and they were successful with it. So I think you can separate the run game lack of variety from the past game lack of variety. Mylotta says it's because of the blitz. I'll believe him on that. The pistol stuff is

like supposed to make it unpredictable which way you run. They always run the same direction out of those formations. So they're not getting that. But they were successful. It's the past game stuff that's driving me crazy. Like the past game variety, the fact that there are only a few past plays in the offense, and that they never dress them up, they never do an interesting like formation difference, a personnel grouping difference.

Just like you're not throwing it to the backside wide receiver anyway. Like, why not just have that be a tight end once in a while? like so that they at least say oh they're in 12 personnel like and they're not ready for that play you know like just do something different and then i counted this is just my amateur counting on the film i counted how many abacus i had the abacus at home so i'm pretty sure i got it right these are dropbacks in which a receiver on the eagles ran a route from one side of the formation to the other side this can be a shallow crosser it can be uh you know it can be an over route uh even like a dig on dagger or something i counted that as well they did that that eight times week one, 24% of the time, only four times against the Chiefs in the whole game. Did they run a receiver from one side of the field to the other? Four out of 26 dropbacks, four out of 28 if you count the screens. That's 15%. That's 20% for the season. Now, I wish I had like a baseline for this metric. Like I don't know what the league average is. But just watching other, like, you know, you watch the Rams, it's like 90% of the plays. They have that. Well, it's also,

it could, you know, 100% is not the high end there because you could have two guys going. across formations. You know what I'm... Well, I was counting plays. I understand. Yeah, yeah. Not players. Yeah, yeah.

It's not just, you know, only one guy can do it. Like, yeah, let's... Right. I'm watching the Rams defense last night, and they got beat by Calvin Ridley on a 26-yard over route on a zone pressure where, like,

the fact that he's running from one side of the field completely caused confusion on the Rams' defense part, and he was wide open. And I'm looking at that, and I'm like, I wonder if they're watching this, and they're going to try to play something like this. And then I remembered last week, the Chargers destroyed the Chiefs in Brazil.

with crossers, with play action. We didn't see any of that from the Eagles. And, you know, it's hard to have variety if you don't throw it at all. They had zero pass plays on first down in the second half against the Chiefs. Zero. Zero out of 11. And, I mean, it's like, they just gave up. You know, they were like, okay, like, we're having, we're not successful.

Like, in the first half, it was 50-50 pass run on first down, but they weren't successful with the passes. And so they just kind of gave up on it. And they were like, oh, he's blitzing us, so let's just run it. that's not the that's not like a modern answer to the blitz like and this was by the way the worst game by a paper drive the eagle's offense has played in the last two years so it's like you can't just say like well they won and it's working well they didn't win because of the offense like all 20 points were scored on short fields like the offense did not win this game right so like we have to be more realistic about that right sorry I'm a bit on ranty today it's a great rant is a big takeaway yeah thank you to Xfinity and we send it now to break on the other side we'll get into more of the matchup here against the Rams defense for the Eagles offense.

So DeNez had me over to his house the other day. I appreciate that. Thank you for the end of it. This is already false. And I couldn't believe it because I know him to be a big fan and yet I get there. We're trying to watch the game

and it's lagging, it's buffering. He's switching between apps trying to find the game. What game was? Claimed he was a big fan, but I felt like I was fan-fished. It's unbelievable. And so what do we do?

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The Jets just destroying the X-axis there. Otherwise, it would look even more dramatic. Yeah, the Eagles are 31st in neutral situation. Pass rate. Sometimes these neutral situation graphics can be skewed. by what's defined as a neutral situation. Like, you'll be up by 10 in the third quarter. That kind of counts as neutral.

The coach thinks of it as not neutral. The Eagles haven't really been in those situations, even in two close games, right? And so not throwing a single first down pass in a game that was essentially like a one-score game throughout the half is unusual. And I can see how that can be frustrating. Oh, you can see.

Four AJ Brown, that example. Yeah. What were you? No, no, I just like you were like, divorcing yourself from yourself there. Oh, I can see how, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanted to ask this earlier when we were talking about the neutral situations. I wonder, especially when you are comparing this year's offense to a few years ago,

how much the effectiveness of the tush push and the reliance of the tush push for this offense in form, maybe not those first down situations, but those second and fives, those third and fours. They were doing the same thing two years ago, though. We like had. Yeah, but I think that they have leaned even more into it. I think of Petulahua literally said it if you're in four down mode. Why would you ever be in four down mode? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Four down mode. Four down mode if that means like you know you're going to go forward on fourth down because it's like the last drive of the game and you're behind or whatever, that I get. Yeah. But four down mode is like an intentional strategy to keep the ball longer or whatever that means. I know you want to do like a big thing on tempo next time.

But the Eagles are snapping the ball with like the play clock. like really low every time. They've had very like low low number of possession games. And part of me is like, why would you want the game to have fewer possessions if you're the better team, right? Like that doesn't really make that much sense. Now the variance in number of possessions isn't that high. It'll end up being like eight possessions instead of ten. Yeah, whatever. But like it's still like it's like such a weird thing.

This tradeoff between explosive. It doesn't make sense. It's like, it's like soccer teams that like waste time. You know, it's like you don't want to waste the time. Like if you're the better team. You want more of the game. A load as a thing doesn't make any sense. I also, I think I'm going to just believe that he doesn't, that's not a real thing. He just sort of said that in passing.

I don't know. I think, I don't know if that's, like, I'm just going to believe that he didn't mean what he said up there before. A better example, better explanation. I was disturbed by that entire presser, the Petulow Presser this week. I mean, he was asked. Where do you fall in the low foot to-tupu thing here? On the what?

Do you also? Do you also hear Kevin Petulow? Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. You think of Loafatatatutu when you hear Kevin Patula? No, even though you said that, I still didn't know what you were talking about. Yeah, no, I stand by that. That's my strongest take of the week. It's true that they both have some of the same letters on their name.

You get the U-O and the Ls go from the end to the beginning. The P's changed two and the T's. they might be related Lofa Tupo Kevin Patulo I mean it's beautiful concert There's one viewer out there That I just know his skin is crawling right now That you just derailed this great Eagles chat

For this I see you and I know how you feel I don't know who you're talking about I mean I'm not low foot to tofu No that's a good point Nobody does The Patuolo Presser Dana's Oh yeah the Patula

I mean, he had already gone on this long thing about how turnovers are a big deal. And then later, when he was asked about the tradeoff between explosive plays and turnovers, and we have graphics about both of those, right? The turnover thing and the explosive play thing. He said it's a fine line because turnovers are a huge deciding factor. Like, he wasn't even really, like, he was in that mode of, like, eventually we'll have explosive plays. But it's like, you can't expect, like, Sequin to just suddenly, you know, like, break it open or for defenses to give you like better looks every time

to throw the ball to the wide receivers? I mean, eagles are benefiting a lot from turnovers. They're second in the league in EPA gained from turnover difference, right? Not turning it over at all on offense. Obviously, huge turnovers on defense in both games. So they've gained like a touchdown of expected points in each of the games. It literally has been the difference in why they've won both games. Were they about in this area last year as well?

Yeah, so I think, do we have last years? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. What is it labeled as? It would be labeled as maybe the same thing, but it was like the 2024 version. I don't think it's in that. I don't know. The Eagles were in the upper right of this graphic last year as well.

So, I mean, like they were good at protecting the ball. I think they were something like fifth on offense and lost EPA from turnovers. This year they're obviously tied for first because they haven't turned it over at all. They've hardly had any turnover worthy plays. But this like, I don't know, my sense that the tradeoff between explosive plays and turnover avoidance is something that was like someone. balanced by the other offensive coordinators. And this year we're getting that Siriani-Patoulo combination, which offers like no balance at all because they've been together so long

that they just think the same way about everything. I mean, I don't know if you guys remember, but like Kevin Petullo was with Nick Siriani when he first came into the building. And he was like, hey, Kevin, like, these fields 100 yards. Can you believe it? Like, I don't know if you guys remember that. But like, he literally said exactly that. There's a video of it that the team posted.

And so that anecdotal, like, the turnovers have been the difference in the game, that argument is true. But like, can we consider that, like, it's true because you haven't scored very many points in this game? Like, it wouldn't be true if you had thrown a couple of bombs to AJ in the first quarter and you wanted to blow out. Like, it's like, it's true because you're making it true, right? And this is the graphic of big play rate. The Eagles are the only team that have fewer than 10% of their plays gaining 10 yards. Like, even the Tennessee Titans are able to do that. The Eagles are dead last in plays of 20 plus yards, only 2.6%.

And dead last in plays of 10 plus yards only 8.7%. Now, do I think this will remain this way the whole season? Obviously not. But when you have these receivers and you have like the threat of the run game and all these things, like you should be in the top of this chart, not the bottom. Yeah, I don't disagree. Eagles are 18 and 1 in the last 19 games, by the way. This is the greatest era of Eagles football that any of us will ever see in our lives.

Yeah. Just thought I'd end with that detail. Like, no matter how old you are, you will never see the Eagles win 18 of 19 games again. Jay, where do you think Jeffrey Lurie falls in all of this? I'm serious. I don't think he thinks about this. I mean, we all know that he likes the offense to look a certain way,

operate a certain way, and he values efficiency in the past game. And you think about how much money is invested in this offense. I want to push back there only because, I don't think that Jeffrey Lurie values efficiency in the past game because he likes that aesthetically more. No, I agree. It's like, because he knows that that's the most efficient way to sustain success. Yeah, it affects winning more than most things, which is why he prioritizes.

It's, yeah, you're right. It's not a base. It's not like, oh, I want the most advanced passing offense just so I can show people how great our passing game is. It's definitely rooted in strategy. And you think about how much money is invested in this group, how much talent they have. I mean, yeah, they are not getting enough out of that talent. I think Jeffrey Lurie has always been about being ahead of everyone else, right? And I think part of him might have said, well, there has been like a kind of migration back towards run heavy offenses. We did that show last year about how it was the first time that the best offenses were more run heavy in a long time. And I think like the idea of like any shows we did last year.

We're paying line. I'm not on as many so I can remember them. but I'm, I like, like we paid Sequin and, you know, we're paying linebackers now, you know, like where we're changing our ways and you always have to be changing to stay ahead of everybody else. The fact that he won a Lombardi trophy with such a run heavy team must have changed part of the way he's thinking about this, right? Slightly, but I also think that it's not, I don't think it's so much like, and that they've talked about this. It's not so much like, oh, they're willing to pay running backs and linebackers now. It's just, I think they've changed their roster. They're willing to pay his best.

Yeah, they have just. prioritize getting as many elite difference-making players as they can afford to do, and they've done so at the expense of like the middle class of their roster. So I still think that when you look at the investment that they have in this offense at the top of the roster, they are not maximizing that talent, and they're not maximizing that investment as a result. Well, when it comes to this matchup in particular, the running back, of course, had two monster games against the Rams last season, 52 carries for,

460 yards in those two games. I mean, that's insane. Four touchdowns to go with eight catches for 74. In watching the Rams defense, Danes, do you feel like that opportunity will be there again? I'm very curious if they're going to play differently. You know what I mean? Against the Eagles because of what happened in both of those games last year, like not having as many guys in the box. They actually had extra guys in the box, like even considering what the Eagles were

lining up in on those plays. And one Sequin was able to get power. that first layer, like, if they were able to execute, like, that first double-team block or whatever, he was able to house those, right? There were different runs, too. Like, I mean, he hit them with a long counter run in that first game, hit them with a zone read in the playoff game. It was a split zone run that was the 78-yarder in the snow.

There was also that game opened up with the Jalen Hertz 44-yard touchdown run on a bash-counter read play, right? So there was a good combination of zone and gap scheme runs. I mean, the Eagles run game was just like, you know, like very varied and very interesting in both of those games. It wasn't necessarily successful success rate wise, but like it was always like one block away, one block away. And I remember my lot of saying like we finally got it like on that one, the 78 yarder. He's like they ran that split zone run like a bunch of times and they finally like hit it. And like once they hit it, it's a touchdown.

You know, so yeah, the Rams might play differently. Like that's the thing. Looking at the Rams on film so far this year, they're very similar to what they were last year. Personnel-wise, usage-wise. The strength of the defense is definitely the defensive line. And then the weakness is definitely the outside corners. I mean, you've got Kobe Durant is very likely to play as the field corner. And Emmanuel Forbes is going to be the boundary corner likely, which means you can line up AJ to the boundary and probably get him on Forbes.

and we know how that's gone in the past. And so again, like, like you have no excuse as a coach if you cannot get A.J. Brown the ball against... I feel like he's got, like, you know, his bulb has been dimmed. It's like... It's like Pedro Serrano and Major League 2.

Like, he's just... He's not his full self. I don't know how you can be your full self running the same... Oh, come on. Running the same route over and over again. Like, like, I understand you're saying he looked at... pressed in the locker room, but on the field, I'm not seeing too many plays where it's like,

man, if AJ had run that route harder, this would have been a successful play. No, but I have seen. He's running right into a linebacker. No, but they're like waiting for him. It doesn't feel like he's running full speed. But that's always been the case. Yeah. I think with AJ, that's always been the case. There was start of the second half where he's the motion guy, and it's a run play and he doesn't even look back. Yeah. He's just like, I don't need to see this running play. Yeah. There was, they ran that play that you're talking about with the two tight ends on one side and then they run a motion with AJ and then they run a they run a kind of a mid zone run away from the motion yeah they ran that multiple times in a row the first couple the chiefs linebackers were

bumping over and giving the offensive line a better angle to block after a while the linebackers just like AJ was ignoring the play the linebackers just started to ignore the motion yeah and they were able to stop it and then they stopped running it and ran the under center one instead that's like such a good example of like I'm doing this because the coach just told me to and everybody in the world like knows that like I'm not getting the ball like it doesn't matter where AJ Brown is on the play and they started to ignore it too so if you feel like his he's his you said it what his bulb has been dimmed if you feel like that in the press in like the media like why is it because I've been pretty consistent about this I feel like AJ's like

the way he's looked in certain routes is because he's kind of floating through parts of the game because he knows that the involvement he I mean the involvement against Cowboys was very low, obviously. I think that there are just times where, and to Dana's his point, he's always been like that. Like, if there's a stretch in the game where he kind of is out of the game,

you can kind of see it reflected in how he runs his routes. So I just, I don't know why, like, you're still leaving space for this, like, you know, like shrouded in secrecy, hamstring injury that's causing him to, to not run hard. I think it just could be as simple as, like,

the passing game is not in a good spot. I mean, I think it's, I do think it's still a possibility that he's not 100%. Why wouldn't he just acknowledge that? And therefore they're not putting those plays in? Potentially. I don't know.

I don't know that it's a grand conspiracy. I just, he hasn't looked 100% a single time he's touched the ball. Why wouldn't he just acknowledge that he's still working back from it? I mean, he's done so in the past. He doesn't want to make excuses. He's playing. I feel, I mean,

that's a very normal thing for a football player. Like, if you're playing, judge me by how I'm playing. He's so dismissive of it. You know, it's like whenever he's asking, about his health, he's, I'm fine. But that's an intentional decision. But I'm fine.

It's not, yeah, I've never felt better. I mean, it's hard to distinguish like, like injured from depressed, too. Like, he could just be like annoyed. And therefore not look full speed because he's annoyed. Yeah, that's my read on it is that he's floating through some of the parts, some parts of the games. A reminder that this Rams defense was not good last year. They were 26th by DVOA, 25th against the pass.

They are, they, they're been getting some credit this year. They're first in, they're first in like everything. But they've played the Titans and the, you know, like the Texans. The Texans look terrible. So let's not, you know, let's not think that that side of the ball is going to be like a huge challenge, especially like outside of the, outside of the front. And they have injuries. Braden Fisk is injured.

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No matter, no wonder the Miami offense just looks awful. Awful, yeah. Mr. Miller, you think that was a pseudonym? You think that was maybe an homage? Yeah, maybe. What is with the no-cell? I don't know. Oh, man.

You call me an anthropomorphic, drooling golds. Attorney. To get you acquitted, are your hands unshackled or not? I, listen, your defense. Bose was incredibly effective. You're lucky that, like, my family are, like, easygoing. Bo's work as a defense attorney is very similar to the Eagles, like, offensive coordination, right? It's like, he's going to claim that he wants.

won. It worked. But it can be heavily doubted whether heavily doubted whether the reason he won was his performance. Since when is winning not the standard. Okay. And then I've got I've got a bone to pick with you. So, okay. What movie was this defense derivative of? I didn't even

think about this. It reminded me of my cousin Vinnie. The defense that like my client is too stupid to have committed this crime is my cousin Vinnie. I'm starting to wonder and I think the chat should wonder too. Is bow washed? Let us know what you think. Because it's like all these early 90s movie references.

You don't know how to use your computer. Like you're losing in Swoper. You're getting the numbers wrong in Swooper. What are you talking about? Tighten up. You got to get with the modern age, man. There was some there was some fishy math in who yesterday, which has led me to, I think, that you should all have an abacus in front of you. I think that would be

good. You just ruined the reveal. Who's the good TV? You already talked about it. Way to diminish the entertainment value of the show. Watch. Watch. This is ridiculous. At least I know how to watch myself. You can give me one.

What does that even mean? You can give me one movie that was released before I was born. Let's say every two weeks and I'll watch it. I'm not asking you to watch these movies. No, because I'm tired of like all the references. What year were you born? 1994. Oh my goodness.

Sorry. There's a lot of movies before then. And like, I'm not against watching them, but like you, like, are so beside yourself when I don't understand a movie reference from a rated R movie. That came out two years before I was born. What are you talking about? Major League. I'm like, this movie came out in 90. Actually, that one was, that came out in 94.

But still, if it's rated R, you know how long it was going to take me to get back to that movie? You got to start thinking about this. Again, wash watch for Mr. Cole. Listen, there are a lot of things that I am washed on. No doubt about it. At least we can agree on that. I'm not really going to argue with me being watched,

but on this front, this whole court is out of it. I need you to elaborate what you mean by at least I know how to watch myself. Well, that was a reference to someone who might step into a shower, find themselves not knowing, having different labels on the things, and all of a sudden being in a tizzy

and not knowing how to finish their shower. You know my thing in the shower that's been happening recently? I have a shower thing too. it's starting to bother me because I'm worried about if it's like an old age thing I'll be standing in the shower and not remember

if I've done like shampoo Oh that happens all the time But it happens like almost every time I think that's understandable That's that's interesting I think I like Shampoo like three times sometimes Because I'm like so worried I forgot

The shower is such an Like a hidden part of the mind like I forget all kinds of things in the shower. It's a very compartmentalized thing that like, I feel like no other part of the day is like that. Yeah. I got a shower thing for you guys. So I was talking to a few beat reporters at like 5 a.m.

in Kansas City. In the shower? Not in the shower. That would be. Just like the team after the game hits the shower. So do the reporters in the press box. And I thought that everyone did this, but it turns out I might be the only one who does this.

Like I pack my own bath soap from home. Like, I don't use the hotel bath soap. But everyone's like, yeah. What? I know a lot of people who do that because they have a specific soap. They like, yeah, I've been using the same bath soap since I was like five years old. Like literally the same bar? You got some huge thing from Costco.

Well, no, I like it. And it just comes. It's a pump bottle. And I make sure I always have it. He has to check it because it's like a. Honestly, I have checked my bath soap before. Like, I would never. ever deviate from this bath stove.

Yeah, I think that that's too much, but it makes you happy. You use a hotel bath soap? Like, if you just use whatever the hotel has? Oh, man, I'll use whatever random. Yeah. Like, when we travel, we travel, we travel all summer. Like, we're traveling, we traveled for 11 weeks this year. We stayed in like 20

different places. I got the whole summer off. That's exactly what I'm saying, yes. And, and I never carry shampoo or conditioner or soap or whatever. It's like, the random like Colombian Airbnb shampoo they left for me that's good enough for me I don't even have hair so it doesn't matter I don't it's not even good bath soap either I don't think it's just like I mean you can find it anywhere okay I don't know if I should name name name so why so it's is this just

routine for you is so there is a little backstory you can't even smell yeah well then that's another thing is I know I have I have I must have a it's important it's important no it's not important no no it's important for you to like make sure because you can't smell yourself Yeah, not, I mean, I hope I'm neurotic enough about not stinking. Could you imagine never knowing if you stink? Like, think about that for a second. Do you feel left out when people say take a whiff? Like if you're in a...

No. No. No. The only time I really feel left out without the sense of smell is like when people are talking about aromatics, like, or when they walk into a place, it's like, oh, my God, it smells so good in here. Over read. I don't want to be crass here. The difference between crass and lewd, but how do farts play in here?

When I was young I used to always say I only get the fun part of farts I mean what do you mean How do they play in here? Like do they bother me? No like are you or would you be much less willing to If you really needed to part in public I would never do that in public yeah

Because like yeah you have no You have no control over it You know the one time that really like gets in your head Elevators of people I mean you probably are smelling people in an elevator right Yeah I don't make it a habit Well, you just can't help. There are times when you can't apply it.

It's always around most paranoid. But for that reason, I've been using the same soap forever. It used to be antibacterial, which I liked. Now it's not. They took that away. But it's again, it's like not. You're allowed to get a different antibacterial. I just, I don't think I'd ever switch.

I'd be too nervous about like breaking out in hives or something. Big Farts Jones. Very interested in this conversation. Was it, had you even been in the chat? He just like, he got an alert. He gets an alert, yeah. Okay. You want to talk about the defense?

Yeah. You guys talked about the defense. There were a couple of things you guys were wondering about when you were talking with Fran on Monday that because of the trial and everything else. You didn't get back to. So I wanted to kind of close the thing on those. One of the things was the way that Quignan, Mitchell, and Adori Jackson were being used. In the first game, we know Quinyan followed Pickens in the first half,

and he followed Lamb in the second half. In this last game, on all 60 defensive snaps, and this is the first time Fangio has done this with the Eagles, Quinyon Mitchell lined up to the field, to the wide side of the field, and Adori Jackson lined up to the boundary. So there are a lot of defenses that do this. The Rams do this as well. They have a field corner and a boundary corner.

Some teams also have a field safety and a boundary safety. The Eagles have had field boundary safeties the whole time Fangio has been here, but they'd been doing left and right with corners last year. I think that the advantages of doing this, this is just me trying to read Fanjo's mind on this, and I'd be very interested to see what he says about it, especially if it continues.

It puts Adori Jackson on the same side as Reed Blankenship, for one thing, rather than with Macuba. So you're separating the two new guys. There were plays last week when Dallas kind of picked on the Adori Jackson Macubah combination, and in fact, like, passing routes off I actually broke one of them down on the show last week where, like, where Adori was, was thinking he was passing off the route to Macuba, but Macuba, like, didn't catch that route. And so putting, having, like, Reed and Adori, you're always on the boundary side. And then Quinyan and, and, and, um, Macuba are always on the field side. So that was, that was one of the things.

There are some exceptions. They flip the safeties on certain coverages, but we don't need to get into that much detail. it also puts Quignon and Cooper de Gene on the same side and they worked so well together like there's so many examples on the film of them passing off routes to each other pre-snap communication that one where Hollywood Brown like motions inside and Cooper DeGine just knocks him down like at the line of scrimmage

was like one of the best plays of the game it was awesome like that's one where in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs like three years ago guys were like wide open in the end zone on those motions and like this time it's like okay we switch the motion we knocked the guy down and the plays basically over. Hooper DeGeed and Quinyan Mitchell like communicating is a beautiful thing to watch

and this puts them on the same side of the field. The other thing it does, we talked about this little last week. It makes everyone's role simpler, right? It's like Adori Jackson, you're the boundary corner. Like that means that you're going to stay locked to the receiver on these coverages. Not that he was on that one, Teclan Thurton 1 where he just like ran into Reed Blankenship instead.

But the idea of like... You don't know that that wasn't the call. Just run into... Run into Reblankton. They'll be confused. I'm not sure what Vick's going to do against teams with better wide receivers though, right? That's the question. Like putting Adori Jackson on the boundary means he's essentially one-on-one, especially against three-by-one sets where the boundary safety is supposed to have eyes on the other side. And so McVeigh will happily isolate Adorri Jackson against Duante Adams, like if you do that, right?

Like the Rams do a lot of three-by-one stuff. They have Adams of that ISO receiver a lot. If the Eagles are playing this way and you have Adams to the boundary, and especially if you run crossers from the other side, which it's the Rams, so that you know they're going to, that basically puts Adderi Jackson on an island against Devante Adams. So, like, I'm very curious if they do that. There's no real way to hide him this week. Yeah, I think McVeigh will find a way to pick on him no matter what, and he's just going to have to, you know, like hold up, right?

And then with man coverage, like, he played a lot of man coverage last week. I looked back, the two games against the Rams were two of the highest man coverage games of the season. So it was 43% man before garbage time in the week 12 game. And then in the divisional game, it was even higher. it was 46% especially after the snow it was heavy man heavy blitz

and I don't know if part of that was because of the snow like maybe just kind of figured like I'm not sure like you know snow can be tricky for defenses because they don't know where the guy's going and all that but it does feel like when you're dealing with all the motion it's easier communication wise

to just be like all right I've got that guy you've got that guy Jim Schwartz didn't think so right like the way Jim Schwartz handled McVeigh was always to just like play cover four, like, ignore the motion. Like, like, it's eye candy anyway, just ignore it. That was Schwartz's

method. And it's very interesting to me that, like, Schwartz, who loves man coverage, like, was playing more his own, and Fangio, who's, like, famous for zone coverage, was playing more man. Like, like, McVeigh makes everybody do something different. But it's, like, interesting to see, like, how is kind of...

And it's like they're both, like, these, both of these grizzle defensive coordinators are like, this stuff is nonsense. We'll just do the other thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is how I handle most, like, offenses I respect. This, this is whatever. I'll do the other thing. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that's right. I mean, I am curious about the man. I think, I think Zach asked Van Geo before the playoff game, like, why it was so much man coverage in that game. And I'm sure Zach Vaughn asked him too.

Okay. And his answer was kind of a no answer, but I am curious what his real thinking is on that. Or McPherson. He's definitely not Zach McPherson. There is one more thing that you guys talked about that I just wanted to hit on. Banjo said that they kind of stopped the Mahomes scrambles with pressures in the second half. And you mentioned on the show that like you thought that was interesting because they actually blitzed less than the second half. But what was happening in the second half is they were dropping the edge rushers and blitzing a linebacker into the A gap or into the B gap. And that let them stop Mahomes from those B gap escapes that Brandon Graham talked to you about on Brandon Graham unblocked.

should subscribe to that. Please do. Subscribe. Watch the episode. Check out the shorts, all that good stuff. Good conversation. Oh, by the way, Eagles defense on the field against the Rams offense, we will be seeing the youngest defense in the league going against the oldest offense in the league by Bill

Barnwell had this on by, what is it, snap weighted average age, three and a half years younger, the Eagles defense. That's like a generation in the NFL. That's like a whole rookie contract. It's a big enough difference that everybody on the Eagles defense would scoff at the idea of ever watching a movie that was seen by players on the Rams office. That's right. The Rams offense will be trying to tell them about movies. The Rams offense is going to be like, you haven't seen the godfather?

I can't see the godfather. I have seen the godfather for the record. You haven't seen? It's a beautiful life. And that's another one I've seen. What's an old movie that I definitely haven't seen? like. I mean like old old?

I'm seen Cousin Blanca? Old for you. Old for me. Like my childhood, you mean? Yeah. Like, have you seen the sandlot?

Oh, of course. Have you seen a league of their own? Yeah, love that movie. Okay. So why haven't you seen Major League two then? Or Major League?

Well, again, I guess think about it like... You haven't seen Major League? Think about it. I probably actually have like seen it, but not like... Just randomly seen it on TV. Yeah, not like...

Not planned to see it. Like I said, you could start giving me one old movie. and I'll put it on the iPad and then on the road trips. Maybe I'll watch it. Oh, thanks. Yeah. Yeah, I'm definitely going to go out of my way to give you a recommendation if maybe you're going to watch it.

Nobody does like false aggrieved better than you. What a ridiculous thing to say? I'll tell you what, I'm going to let you give me one movie a week and I'll take it with me on the road and they get to it, baby. No. Absolutely not. Bo has my job to give you culture. Well, no, listen, this is a funny use of the word culture, like watching like Major League 2 or something like that. Bo has scars from former co-hosts not taking his movie recommendations.

So he's just worried that he's going to recommend a movie. You're not going to watch it. Yeah, I'm not going to. And then eight years down the line, somebody else is going to recommend the movie and you're going to watch it. And you say, thank you so much for the recommendation. Let me ask you this. Have you seen like Pineapple Express? I have seen it, yeah.

Okay. Because like to me, like, this would be like if I was outraged, you didn't see, like, the dumb movies I watched when I was a teenager. Yeah. Well. Patelm Express is a good movie. Much more of this to come. Coming up next.

In Bovertime. The Bovertime intro during the trial really got me. Oh, my God. I was just dying. My face was sore. Like, the rest of the day from laughing so hard. We got a bunch of super chats to get to. Let's take the opportunity to do that now.

Once again, happy birthday to Bruce Glickman. Bruce. That was a bit of a... Gontardo, is that the S&L announcer? I think that was... I think that's what I sounded like. Alexander Nuss. How much worse is an arm punt

over a three-yard run on third and 15 plus? Great question. Yeah, seriously. Two cowards draws in this game by the Eagles. Throw it 40 yards down. Maybe you get past interference. And if it gets picked off, fine.

Yeah We got a roster move? No, it's old. It's old. I was looking at my notes from pre and post Rams game last year for the show, and it had like so many the same things.

It was like, why is it so conservative? Why is all these two-by-two sets? Why did they run two cowards draws? And I was like, what, is this my notes for this week? And it was like the notes for it. You forgot that you had actually done it there. Yeah, exactly. Okay.

Yeah. Next up, polar jam. You'd think having a. a good defense as opposed to 2023 would make the offense more aggressive, but for whatever reason, it hasn't changed the risk assessment of the offense. Another very good point.

An excellent point. Yeah. No, absolutely. Right. This is the the canard that I always hate when you're you're punting on fourth and down because you trust the defense. No, no, no, no. If you trust the defense, you're willing to give them a short

field because they're good enough to handle that. Yeah, those arguments. Don't trust the defense. Then you got to pin them back. Those arguments never really make sense. It's like the defense has to play no matter what. Like if you don't score, guess what happens next? Your defense takes the field. If you do score, guess what happens?

The defense takes the field. So like the idea of trusting the defense and that's the reason we did this. Like that's just something coaches say to make the defense feel better. Like it's not, it has not like it should be maximizing win probability. Like overall, both sides of the ball have to play. Anyway. Ramiers checks in. Super Bowls earn a lot of grace,

but it's concerning that they've had to reinvent the passing game in three straight years with mostly the same players. I mean, it is, I know it's ridiculous that there are like 31 other teams out there and the Eagles are coming off of Super Bowl, they're undefeated, and we're just complaining, but... I don't think we're complaining. It was not a fluky Super Bowl either.

It was like a dominant Super Bowl. I won 18 and 19. And it's true, they're allowed to, you don't want to, you know, you're allowed to get better. over the course of the season. It's good to be winning while you're still improving. That honestly seems like I don't, I don't dismiss the arguments that they're not trying to do everything now. Like they say so often that you want to be playing your best ball at the end of the year. They say that so often that part of me is like, okay, we're working like, I guess I have to believe

them when they say like, okay, we're going to do this stuff. I don't think that. And then we're going to win anyway. It truly believes that. Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm not saying it's like how I would do it. But I think that there is, I don't think that's just like something he says after the fact. I think he's thinking that during the planning as well. It's like, well, we don't have to excel at this yet. We'll work on this over time. And that might be part of the reason that their answers to some of the things like the defense shows them are so one dimension for example.

Very generous super chats today. Fresh Prince checking in with a big one as well. And remember, it's also a big brother's big sisters giving month. And so if you want to support our partners at Big Brothers Big Sisters, now is the time to do that. Fresh Prince says, I don't understand people saying that AJ running the same route from the same position multiple times last game because Jalen is changing routes. But the professor has posted they get to the line later than any other team. They snap the ball later than any other team. Not necessarily get to the line later, though that happens sometimes too.

But they definitely snap it really late. So I can talk about that. I can actually do about this on Monday the the motion rates where the Eagles rank is like it's so misleading because like 80% of their motions are

okay we're gonna come out of the huddle in a three by one and guess what one of those three is going to come over and make it a two by two and it's not even going to be like a fast motion it's going to be just a very lazy let's just get into a different position I, you know, like, I chart every play. Yeah.

I write down the formation. I write down the motion. I write down the routes. There were four or five times that I paused it before the motion. Right. And I did. I traced the motion. I traced the route.

I didn't remember it from watching live. And like every single thing I traced was exactly right. I didn't have to erase any of it. It's like, okay, great. Like, Grant Calcutera motion to the AJ Brown side. Right. It's like, what information did you gain from this? You remember a few years ago when they're like, we don't want a motion for motion's sake.

Right. You don't want to just have it in there for the sake of having it. It's like, oh, this is the same bad. That lazy motion can sometimes give you like a zone mantle. Right. Like sometimes. Well, like they're, like you don't really need a zone mantle sometimes. The Sequin touchdown run, right?

There's a little tiny motion. Yeah. That changes the gap just a little bit. Yeah. And that's enough to make a difference. Yeah. So, you know, it's not. But yeah, the just changing sides.

It is like that zone indicator, but today and as this point, there's other ways to do that. Pat Fienis checks in. I can't imagine Jeffrey is thrilled with a prevailing national conversation around the team, basically being they have to rely on the tush push because the passing offense isn't good. What do you think? You got to make your face. I mean, no, I'm curious. I think that he's proud of the tush push.

Yeah. Wet dreams. Oh, yeah, the wet dreams. Wet dreams. Yeah. But he does care about the national conversation. And I don't know that he thinks, I don't think that he loves that it's like,

it's used as the reason that they're winning. Yeah, but I don't think he looks at the, like, of all the things that he would feel the Eagles offensive staff are responsible for, I don't think that the national conversation is something he would attribute to them. I think he would attribute that to the general disdain for the play at this point.

I hate that all the Tush-Bush talk that's so stupid, but I will say something that, The pool more than a made effort this week is, it's just kind of gross. Jordan Milata, like, because he has a radio show and he ends up talking for like an hour, he just ends up saying interesting things. Like, he said, if you want to talk about false starts, let's talk about Joanne Taylor, which I thought was interesting. Like that he like specifically mentioned a player like on other offense.

I thought that was awesome. And then he said, they're lining up off sides. And he said, I thought mimicking the quarterback's cadence is a penalty. It is. BG got for it last year. He said the chiefs. The chiefs do that all the time. He said Green Bay does it a lot.

He said Washington did it a lot. And he said that they have a drill in practice where the scout team does that, does the cadence thing. And the offense has to figure out which one's Jalen's voice versus like random guys on the scout team. I thought that was really cool that they drill that.

I would love. We're there to have been a thing with the scout team where the defensive linemen have to do their best Jalen impression. That's basically what they have to. That's basically what he made it sound like. is the one that gets to do it. That would be a great piece of content.

So good. You know to say muted out Jalen's cadence and his mickey goes to? Yes. And they always, they always censor when he calls the play. Yeah. Because I'm pretty sure he still says Snoopy.

Like that's the name of the play. And they don't want, for some reason they don't want it to be known that he calls it Snoopy. I think they should like lean more into the Snoopy thing because they have to change the narrative around it. Like giving it a different name. Yeah.

Just like just making people talk about it in a different way. And then you get like a, a picture of Snoopy, but Snoopy with a big old butt. There you go. That's good. And also, you can't ban Snoopy. Everyone loves Snoopy, right? You can do that kind of thing.

I don't know. What? You don't like Snoopy's big peach? What are we doing here? I know it's like Friday afternoon. Everybody's loose, but Snoopy with a big old butt. Yeah. The push, Snoopy.

it's a meeting of the things. It's great. It's terrible. It's inappropriate. Come on. I like it. I don't like it. Let us know in the comments if you like Snoopy with a big old button. A long week. Chase Daniel, Plaview. You have a super chat as well. Somebody says, do I know who Snoopy is?

Shout out to Tulip. Should Jeffrey Lurie give Nick their Doug Treatise? where he yells at him after wins for running the ball. Doug got yelled out for running in windy buffalo. I thought it was Green Bay. It was Green Bay. It was Green Bay. It was that Monday night came in Green Bay, I believe.

But yeah, maybe. But see, this is the thing we were saying before. Like, he won the Lombardi running it. I hope somebody tweets me a picture of Snoopy with a big old button. Do you? No, you don't. He doesn't mean that. Someone's about to.

I mean it, although. Someone's about to use GBT for that at work and get fired. Yeah, but say the FBI is. going to be at their door. Yeah. I want if I want so many things. I want someone to do that, but don't do it. Don't bother doing it if it's made by AI.

Oh no, you're big AI. You're big in the AI. Bo would like you to, uh, defense. Bo would like it to be like a, like, I haven't ever. Oil. Anything. What are you talking about?

You use it for the defense of E.J. Smith yesterday. No, I didn't. That's the scuttle butt. I mean, I heard. I'm not even going to dignify that with a response. That's one of the most offensive things that's ever been said on this show. Well, you called me a lot of names yesterday. So in service of getting you off.

Oh, God. Oh, no. This is gone way off the rails. No comment. I'm done. You stand by it. Listen, you're the one who said you woke up in a goofy mood this morning. Yeah, but not that goofy.

Not that kind of goofy. not that genre of goofy. All right. What else you got in your notes? You got some leftovers? Yeah, you got some leftovers. As we mentioned, this will be the Eagles first time wearing white at home

since 2015. They just tweeted the... You've been all over this. Yeah, I mean, I was, you know, you heard it here first, obviously. Week 2 of 2015 was the last time. It was a horrendous loss to Dallas. They would be wearing the green pants with white socks under it. They just announced.

So it is not going to be like an all white snow out kind of thing. That's kind of what I was thinking with the white end zones, which they probably won't do. You probably noticed everything in my poo-poo blutter was stuff that happened in the playoff game. I thought the white end zones would kind of be like an homage to the snow or something. Another homage. Probably not doing that. Siriani is 3-0 against Sean McVeigh. Always talks about how much he respects Sean McVeigh.

McVeigh is one in five against the Eagles. Overall, the only time you beat the Eagles? Yeah, no one was there. It doesn't count. Literally nobody was at the game. I mean, you might have been there, but... I was there. There were like 100 people there. So, yeah.

There you. Oh, and Siriani record watch, because I love this historical Nick Siriani thing. If he wins his next four games, he will pass, at least temporarily. Vince Lombardi for a third place and win percentage in NFL history for head coach. He's currently fourth.

Who is top two? Oh man, I have it It's like George Allen Hold on now He's I have to see where Greasy Neal is in this too All time

This is like terrible No we like it You're building suspense I know I'm gonna watch Chandler That's gonna be my first old movie For you Alan

That's one where I don't I mean I haven't seen it in a while I don't know that's gonna hold up My Julia has seen him later She seems to like it Here we go. Number one is Guy Chamberlain, who coached from 1922 to 1927, the 759 win percentage. Number two is John Madden, 1969 to 78, 750 win percentage. And what if we do just post-merger?

If you do post- Still, it would be Madden. Well, there's only one year of, there's only one year of pre-merger with Madden, so I don't know what I would have, yeah, probably still had. Lombardi, which is all before the merger, is third, and then Siriani is fourth. ahead of George Allen. He would have to lose a couple in a row to fall below George Allen. So, all right. People get upset when you compare like someone's like, you know, brief career to someone's longer career. I get that.

But I also find it very funny that Nixiriani is on this list. All right. I think that's all I have. You got anything else, E.J.? No. I'm excited for the game. Oh, Rams, left guard, Steve Avilao is probably not going to play, which means that they have the little guy. He looks so small on film. Deadich at left guard. Jalen Carter did line up across from the left guard a couple of times in this last game. We were wondering how they'd use him this year and it was the first time he played.

So he did line up on the right with Jordan Davis to his left on a handful of plays. And then there was even a play where he lined up as a stand-up eddrusher. And they dropped Jalick's hunt from an inside position as a spy. They really didn't do that at all last year. No, Fran like Fran and I have talked about this. It's like why does Fletcher Cox always line up as the left defense tackle. Why does Jalen Carter always line up as the left offense tackle? So it was kind of interesting to see them move them around. They moved them around a little bit against the Rams last year as well to get matchups and set up blitzes and that kind of thing that Maccuba Blitz was set up by Carter being on that side and the center

sliding away from Maccuba's blitz. So yeah, well, like that's obviously what kept the Eagles in the playoffs last year was Jalen Carter beating the Rams at the end. So something to watch on Sunday, especially because Jalen Carter looked tired and not himself. He was on the ground a lot on on Sunday. All right.

He said he needs to work on his conditioning. Okay. Fran says, Deadich played pretty well last week. You're calling him tiny. Yeah, I noticed he was like, he was climbing to the second level. I watched the tape.

Climbing to the second level, knocking guys down. He just looked small. Looks like a normal guy next to the other offensive line. And I thought it was, is that it's like a guy that Fran loved in college or something? Oh my gosh. You should have seen.

You should have seen Fran celebrating last night. You want to talk about somebody getting off? I mean, Jackson Hawes has one game. And Fran is like throwing a parade. I'm Team E.J. on Cameron Latu, by the way. I told you the people are with me. I think, I think two things about, two things. I don't know that the professor is the people.

I think, I think, I think, I think, I'm definitely not the people. Charles Oveniou, I think he just retired after that play. I mean, like, he just got destroyed. And Cameron Latu was like half an inch away from blocking two punts, two different punts. I almost made it a swooper that Cameron Latu was going to block a punt. And then I thought, like, no one would bid on it. And you guys would be like, what is he talking about?

But that's my bold prediction for this game. Blocked punt for Cameron Lattu. Wow. There you go. How did he feel about Darius Cooper? We'll see. I mean, I don't know. They'd like to have them on the field for some of those.

Some of those plays. How do I feel about him? I don't know. I didn't see him in training camp like you did. I heard he was awesome. Calm down, Fran. You see? Guy goes,

guy goes absolutely six to midnight. Just the mention of Hawes. Hawes has played well all season. There's been two games, Fran. All three for the bills. Okay. Fair.

But, I mean, that is a big guy that age. Yeah, I need the abacist. Everybody needs it. Okay. All right. Good stuff, everybody. We've got you covered with full coverage on Sunday. The kickoff show, the halftime show, the postgame show, all that good stuff.

One o'clock game for the Eagles and the Rams. Until then, make sure that you've watched all the stuff this week. Go back and watch Brandon Graham on Blocked. Read EJ's story out today on all-Phly.com, become a diehard. Comment on the video, all that good stuff. Thank you, Brina for Rennon. running the show today. We will talk to you on Sunday. And as always, we love you.